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May 5, 2016 - Project Camelot
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GERALD CLARK ANUNNAKI OF NIBIRU --- SOUND EDITED
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Thank you.
Thank you.
And then we'll be introducing, you know, get him on the screen and so on.
So, bear with me here and I'll just read a short introduction.
So, Gerald Clark is the author of The Anunnaki of Nibiru.
He's compiled an excellent overview of the evidence and cross-correlated much of the symbolism and ancient texts to support a more wide-ranging view of the role of the Anunnaki in our history.
And from his site and regarding his book, he writes, many historical and scriptural findings not included in the canonical Bible have now come to light.
Access to texts such as the Lost Book of Enoch, the Nag Hammadi Gospels, and the Book of Jubilees, among others, is now widely available and when synthesized and correlated with existing documents like the Bible and the Quran, merits rethinking Western civilization's origins and intent.
Prepare yourself for a profound belief-changing journey through ancient Persia, Sumer, Greece, Atlantis, and Rome to the United States, headquarters of the New Atlantis.
This book is not like any other in the field.
Expect the winged warrior aerial perspective of an army attack helicopter pilot, the BS filter of an electrical engineer, a Western medicine challenging structural integrator, And a Southern California didgeridoo player all in the same time and in the same person.
Energy and matter, sound entrainment, slave control design methods using electromagnetic spectrum, eternal life, gravity and DMT are addressed herein.
And that is Gerald Clark's introduction.
And a very good one, really.
It is.
So, let me welcome you, Gerald, and you should turn on your camera at this point so that we can bring you on the screen.
Okay.
There you are.
Okay.
Say hello to everyone.
Hello to everyone.
I want to wish all of Carrie's listeners a warm welcome, and thank you so much for the kind introduction.
Okay.
So, I think this is going to be a lot of fun tonight because you've got such a wide range of knowledge, and so I might get to pull things out of my bag of tricks as well that kind of come out of left field, but we'll see where it goes.
So, first of all, what I'd like you to do is tell me how you ended up, as an electrical engineer and a helicopter pilot in, I guess, the war, you know, how did you end up going in the direction of the Anunnaki?
Well, I was working in telecom, in particular in the free space optics industry.
And as a VP, I was traveling a lot.
And I was spending a lot of time in Turkey, which I guess was about the year 2000.
Really didn't have much interest in history.
I generally viewed history as the Stuff that was written by the victors and everyone else got maligned.
So as an engineer, I just really, you know, I knew that history wasn't what we thought it was.
But while I was over there, I wrote a patent with this guy as the telecom market was being deregulated in Turkey.
And they figured they had 225 million customers that they could reach out to.
So I was spending a lot of time there.
Within that process, I got...
At least to the place where I decided to address my ugly American syndrome where your culture doesn't matter and we're here and placate us and all that.
We were out at dinner one night and I realized that the history that I vaguely knew of the world wasn't correct, especially the chronology.
It just so happened I was reading a book.
I've said this many times.
I was reading Guns, Germs, and Steel on the airplane to Istanbul.
And in it, it was talking about one of the Turkish cities that was very old that used to trade obsidian, and it's east of Göbekli Tepe.
It's called, west of Göbekli Tepe, called Katıl Hayek.
And I may not be pronouncing that right, but very important city.
They dated the city at 9,500 years old.
And so all of a sudden, I realized I really...
Did not have a good grasp of history.
I kind of knew that Mesopotamia was approximately 3800 BCE and Egypt was 3100 BCE. But beyond that, I was like, well, we don't really know much else.
Everyone else lived in caves in Alaska and Southern France by that point.
So I kind of got turned on to history a little bit, and especially the symbology and some of the stories about Abram, the patriarch of the three worlds religions, were being told there in Turkey by my customers.
And they had described Abram as somebody that was born in Turkey in a cave.
I was like, really?
That's not coincidence.
What I was taught as a Southern Baptist in the Bible, right?
So all this kind of stuff was coming up.
And, you know, I got interested, actually, and I started looking into the history just a little bit so that I could at least talk to them about their history, a lot of which we truly didn't know.
At that point, I was dabbling around thinking I was going to write a book on ancient technology because I was an engineer.
We had somewhat of a meltdown on the telecom market in 2001, and all the executives were somewhat on a hiatus.
I was taking this time to catch up on all this stuff that I hadn't had a chance to read after doing this international travel.
One thing led to another, and I stumbled across Von Donegan's book, Sitchin's work, and all the others that were in the alternative history field.
That weren't really being talked about.
So I read all their stuff and essentially went into corroboration mode for a very long time.
So I actually started writing my first book in 2004.
And I had just a pile of research.
And there was so much I didn't know how I could possibly consolidate it into something that was consumable by the lay public.
It was very, very deeply academic stuff.
A lot of the German literature and stuff that Zechariah Sitchin had gotten into.
Anyway, so I finally started writing this thing, and then simultaneously I'd get stopped because I realized that most people weren't talking about this when I was writing this.
This was way before the History Channel was doing the ancient aliens, right?
And as an engineer, if I were talking about what I was doing in my hobby, looking into ancient astronaut theory and alternative religions, That's not generally somebody in electrical engineering does and stays in electrical engineering.
You know what I mean?
At least, especially not then.
So we knew a couple of quote-unquote people that had left the high-tech industry and gone off chasing UFOs and things like that.
And, you know, they were pretty much lambasted within the circles of the corporate community where we worked.
So I certainly didn't want to be one of those, but at the same time, I had to be true to myself.
So...
So from 2004 until 2013, when I actually released the book, I felt like I'd missed the wave.
I felt like I should have published way before the History Channel came out with all that stuff, you know.
But I figured also, because it was so hard to accept this fantastic theory of an alternative history, that a little marketing wave might help my work.
So I wasn't sure when I published the book in 2013 if I was going to have any traction at all.
Really.
And so I actually, one of the authors I think got lucky because that particular topic turned out to be very popular, but a lot of authors aren't that lucky.
So had I not been lucky, I wouldn't have been able to stay being an author, that's for sure.
Okay.
That's what got me into it.
But you brought some of your sort of scientific side.
Wouldn't you classify yourself as more of a scientist than sort of a general knowledge kind of person?
Or would you actually say you did get into the humanities in other places in your life?
I think I was strictly a science guy until about 2004.
So these alternative histories I was reading, That, coupled with an alternative healthcare venture I went on, partly to help myself, but partly to help my son, took me off into a very different approach as a scientist.
I felt like I was the only scientist among a lot of people that were mostly right-brained.
Into somatic therapy and hands-on kind of things and mind-body stuff.
It was a place I was interested in, but I was interested in it from a theory and a mathematical standpoint and a pragmatic standpoint.
So through that process, I learned to be a structural integrator while I was living in Hawaii.
And this turned out to be a very profound change for me in terms of Getting my body more related to gravity, which I had no idea would have a subsequent change in human consciousness.
I mean, what was happening to me?
I should write a book completely about that.
And this is a known issue that goes on in the structural integration community that you're playing with.
Energy and matter in a very profound way and that really took me from being strictly a scientist to a scientist that could also see that in the esoteric space that there was clearly a connection.
The scientists had just had a had a pragmatic experience with it so that they could try to reconcile their theories to it or been able to come up with a theory in the first place to explain it.
So I think a lot of that stuff's coming out now.
There's a very significant merging of science with, I don't know, New Age concepts that we've finally caught up where it's not magic anymore.
I'm not saying take the soul out of everything and it's all science.
But there's even science that we can describe energetically of what we believe to be the human soul.
And I think that's where we need to be in this conversation.
So I brought that from my electrical engineering background to this space, which I knew other people in this space had not done that.
I didn't know why I was, you know, what my mission, what my role was.
And I'm asking myself these questions while I'm working with hundreds of clients as a structural integrator, no longer doing technical work as, you know, running a private practice in the healthcare field.
So I had that perspective.
But while I was doing that, I never lost my interest in the concept that I thought about when I was very young, which was, where does energy meet matter?
Because that's the place where we're going to have an experience with the infinite.
Whatever this perception prison is we're living in, that's where it happens, right?
And this coincides with spiritual teachings that I learned later in life.
The kingdom of heaven, whatever that is for you, happens within.
I was very focused, well, if there's energy and matter, and I'd always thought as an electrical engineer about bodies and planets and photons and neutrons and, you know, the energy particles do, but I had never really applied it to myself until I got involved with this alternative healthcare system, the structural integration community.
Go ahead.
Just let me ask you to define structural integration as you see it.
And I'm guessing perhaps this also relates to your son.
I'm also wondering if you're actually talking about chakras and...
Kundalini and all of that when you're talking about structural integration or not.
I am.
This is the part that doesn't get talked about in that community.
And I'll give you kind of a run over.
And I know that you've had energetic experiences and this might be very illuminating to you.
And I used to teach all my clients about what was happening to them.
They'd ask me, why am I feeling different?
What's going on?
Well, just so you know, I bought imaging equipment and had a lab.
And I imaged my clients before and after energetically and with pictures to correlate their human structure that we were looking at with lines and planes and all kinds of analysis software with the gravity field, which turns out was correlated to their imaging of their energy field.
So if they had, as a chiropractor term, if they had a subluxation or some twist in their spine or there was something really off in their posture from a whiplash injury or falling as a kid or, you know, Skateboarders, whatever.
That would show up structurally, and then you could see it energetically on this camera that I had.
And I'm like, well, finally I get this.
You know, we're kind of an antenna.
So this started my thoughts about a human antenna way back then.
And that led to me writing some equations from the electrical engineering space, knowing about light and wavelength and frequency, stuff I dealt with all the time.
And applying it to the human...
Condition and saying, well, is this a way to measure our chakra levels?
And I included the chakras in this equation, but it's in both of my books, by the way.
So the first book, I wrote it just deriving it symbolically like any engineer or scientist would do.
In the second book, instead of describing it that way, I decided to use natural language to describe it.
So I had two opportunities to reach out to people so they would understand what my views are on energy and matter and how this relates to your spiritual life.
Because they're very connected.
You can't distinguish them.
So that was very important to me.
Okay, great.
Now, in terms of doing this, are you saying that did you begin at this time to meditate yourself and try to activate your chakras and connect them?
You know, I'm not going to look at it the way you do, obviously, so I'm not going to use your kind of language, but you understand my meaning when I say connect your chakras and have some hockey experiences.
Did you do any of this on your own and...
Did you then, you know, through experienced student on your own, I'm not sure how it would pertain to your son, whether you tried to get him to work in this way.
I'm not sure how old he was at the time of...
Do you want to elaborate at all?
Let me tell that story real quick.
So the founder of this work, Structural Integration, was a German woman who was named Ida Rolf.
She was studying medicine on the East Coast.
She had a child who had polio.
One of the legs was mangled and couldn't walk.
She was seeking a solution for him and was looking outside the box.
She believed she came up with a recipe to change human connective tissue so that it would soften up and allow the bone structures to naturally align to the gravity field, which is what she found out through this pragmatic application of a recipe that she coined, okay?
She coined it the Rolf 10 series.
Well, that was kind of just the beginning.
So I saw that she had the same problem I had.
I had a child who had braces on his legs, couldn't walk, and he had connective tissue problems.
So I saw that maybe what she did could help him.
That's why I went to learn what I did.
Well, it turns out it did help him significantly.
It got him out of the braces and he was very balanced.
Well, I didn't know that was going to take me into a full-time practice.
So how does this connect to your chakras and your energy and all that?
This has to do with gravity, and it turns out that the structural integration community is completely focused, and this is what their outside message is, is to relate the human structure to the gravity field.
Well, then you've got to start asking yourself, well, what's the gravity field, and why does it matter?
Well, it turns out it significantly matters, and that's what the equation I wrote shows, is that gravity is one of the controlling parameters in that equation to determine whether you're going to have a maximal experience of your kundalini energy through your antennae.
If you're not integrating gravity, you don't get all the way there.
And it's one of the most powerful forces you experience in daily life.
So she had a little recipe that turned on people's chakras.
Basically, if you change the connective tissue relationship to the vertebra, all of a sudden this central pole of your human spine that's a conductor can all of a sudden experience energy that it never experienced before.
It's like, and yoga.
So through this process, I had the process done to me at least three times in the couple of years I was learning to do the work.
And through that process, my entire structure started changing.
Exactly like she said, I started feeling gravity through the top of my head.
And all of a sudden I couldn't slump anymore.
It hurt.
So there's a force within each of us that's an intelligence.
That knows how to line up your structure with the gravity field.
It's built into us.
But you weren't taught us as a child.
I wasn't taught us as a child.
We get told, hey, sit up straight, right?
Well, after a certain period, your connective tissue goes to sleep because it's been injured or whatever, and you can't.
And this has a huge, huge impact on the human antenna.
As I saw with cameras in my labs and also from that initial process of structural integration, it causes you to naturally want to stretch.
You can feel everything starting to come apart.
You're like, oh, has that really been stuck like that all my life?
You're kidding me.
Like that, right?
All over your body.
And it progressively happens such that once you trigger this malleability threshold in a human, these changes can continue for years without doing anything else.
Just playing the game of go, okay, where's gravity?
And it keeps, like tuning in a radio station, it keeps trying to get you to align with it if you play the gravity game, okay?
So that's why structural integration was really important to me.
And also, I met some people in that space, probably for the first time outside of the engineering and academic community where I came from, where I could talk about the Anunnaki.
And there were a few of them that were I had read a wide variety of things that had a position on it, and some of them I very much respected.
So it helped me get to the place where I was confident enough to publish my book, which I finally did in August of 2013.
Okay, so in terms of what your book is about, because I want to make this transition to talk about the book, because some people are not going to understand how you integrated, literally,
Your theory about the structural integration into a concept of how the Anunnaki affected humanity's growth and physicality and also ends up with mind control and so on.
So can you kind of go down that road?
Sure.
Well, I've told the story of the Anunnaki Genesis many, many times.
But in order to answer your question, I'm going to focus in on the primitive workers' perspective of how we would have been designed such that they could control us.
Because you have to remember, in the Autrahasis account, one of the key documents that I used in my first book, and everybody should read that one, if you get nothing else out of this interview, Please read the Autrehesus yourself.
It's not that long.
And there's something magical that happens when humans put their eyes on that document on their own, not what somebody else said or you heard about it, blah, blah, blah, or so-and-so's wrong.
Just try reading that document yourself.
You'll have a profound experience.
In my opinion and my wife's opinion, she wasn't even fully on board with everything until she read that document.
So it's very powerful.
So from that document, We found out that the Anunnaki were here.
They had a mission to get some resources from the Earth to protect their planet.
And I won't go into all of those details.
I want to focus on your question about what did they do to us such that they could control us?
And you have to recall in that Dr.
Hayes' account, they had These miners that they brought with them and ended up putting them in the mines to work in South Africa.
And after a very long time, it turned out to be a Char in the first Tablet of the Atrejesus.
They revolted.
And long story short, the Anunnaki who had a presence there had a council meeting to decide what to do about that.
And this council meeting probably was very important in establishing what the constraints were for the replacement workers in terms of how would you control them so we don't have this happen again, right?
This is the government's basic problem right now is how do you keep the people at bay so they don't rise up and they're out in the streets, you know?
Whoops.
Oh, you brought something else up.
Okay.
So I wanted to focus on how did the Anunnaki...
How did they...
Design us such that that could be achieved.
So this is where the electromagnetic spectrum comes in.
Can you hear me okay, by the way?
It looks like you just end up with an Atrahasis document.
I actually was just showing people the definition of Atrahasis.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I didn't know you were going to do that.
I thought maybe I lost the connection.
We're all here.
We can show pictures while you talk, so don't even, you know, sorry about that if it was unexpected.
No worries.
So, I did something kind of unique in my Anunnaki Hebrew book.
Yes, I told the history, gave you some evidence, biological, astrological, documentary, all of that.
And everybody's been doing that because it's such a controversial thing, right?
It's a controversial, it rewrites the entire history of mankind.
But I did that.
But I also went to the place and said, okay, if they made us, why did they choose meat over tools?
What could they have done with us through the electromagnetic spectrum when they crafted us such that they could control us?
From my electrical engineering background, this is the part that kept jumping up at me.
I'm like, well, what about entrainment?
What about the reticular activating system?
These primitive organs that are in our brain that clearly could be susceptible to Any kind of electromagnetic spectrum, especially if it falls within the brainwave region.
And then your chakras as well.
Each one of those is a different wavelength and frequency.
So there's a susceptibility there.
And so I kind of looked at that and integrated what I knew about Mass and gravity and weight and the speed of light and wavelength and frequency and all the relationships.
And I put an equation together to go from, well, if we looked like this, could they have created a frequency that would affect us in the way that they wanted so that we would be under their thumb, under their control?
Now, that's everything from receiving commands To, in broadcast, like in a broadcast format, to get everybody to do a particular task or even to detect the intent of one of the workers to not follow orders and lead to a rebellion, just like we have with Minority Report, right?
Pre-crime.
I mean, they totally...
So all of a sudden I backed up and I said, wait a second.
If they could transmit to us, then we're a receiver.
And if they could detect our intent, that means we have to be a transmitter in some way.
So I started going into the reality of that is the human brain produces electrical signals that could be measured.
And depending on the sensitivity of the equipment you have, they could do everything that we're talking about.
Read brain waves, see the electrical development of the chakras, know what the awareness level is.
Completely from a satellite or a low Earth orbit satellite, or even initially it probably started with our three letter agency community from across the building, right?
Where they're putting some high gain antenna and reading it, looking at you.
Now, you know, as far as I'm concerned, you're a brainwave with some modulated data on it that they can detect from space.
Okay, if it was our government who had it, okay, you got to think higher than that.
We're talking about beings that were way more advanced than the technology we have right now, so they were probably able to telepathically go and read everyone's intent without them being able to do it back.
You know, you have to think a little more along the lines of what these advanced space travelers probably were capable of to understand genetically the clamps.
Now, so there's bad news in our constraints, in our design, so that we would be enslaved, but the good news is As you start peeking into our DNA, noticing that there are prodigies across the world who seem to have somehow overcome their alien clamp and they're doing phenomenal things, whether it's mentally or telepresence or telekinesis or whatever, or remote viewing.
Humans have this capability, and it's sneaking out through various genetic anomalies, and it's showing up.
So you have to ask yourself, was it always there?
Has it been clamped?
And now we believe that the DNA has clearly been clamped.
We call 95% of it junk, which is not true.
You know, people like William Brown have been looking at the different link polymers where the splicing took place and so did Lloyd Pye as well, knowing that there wasn't an evolution, there was an intervention.
Okay, so let's get back to the energetic part.
So, knowing that, The good news for me was discovering that there appeared to be latent circuits designed in humans, both in the DNA and in your sensitivity externally to energy.
Think of the nine Mayan underworld frequencies where they were describing it.
If they all fell into the brainwave frequencies of the human, maybe those are nine different perception experiences you can have if your brain waves on one of those frequencies, right?
So you can kind of think about that and then go, well, what would change the external frequency?
Either going toward the diameter of the interior of the Earth or possibly going through the galactic center, which we know is energetically very different than the area outside of it.
And this was where I started noticing the connection between the human antenna, the electromagnetic spectrum, And our, I don't know, wobble cycles of our solar system through the galactic center that happens every great year, every 26,000 years approximately.
And it just so happens we're entering that.
So I'm like, wow, are our antennas going to be getting lit up by these latent circuits that were left for us so that we start progressively waking up?
I think so.
Well, let me ask you about Adam's calendar.
Have you gone out there and met Michael Tellinger and been to the stone circles?
I haven't.
No, I actually found out about Adam's calendar very early on, before he ever even wrote his book.
And I was so excited because I knew he'd been following Zechariah Sitchin's work.
And not so much just Sitchin's work, but even in the Hatrehesus, it talks about mining down in the Abzu, okay, in Anki's territory when they drew lots.
So I think he did a great service to the Sumerian story by going to Africa and at least finding some structures there to connect But we already knew about the gold mines down there that were, you know, hundreds of thousands of years old.
Well, the interesting thing, and it's too bad you haven't gone down there, because what you can find out is also the use of sound, the fact that the kinds of stones they constructed the circles with ring like bells, as Michael would say.
I've done a documentary with Michael down in South Africa.
I've been down there, I think, three or four times now.
And I'm an Earth-sensitive, and I'm able to feel energies and vortexes, etc.
And I can tell you that the energies are very strong and powerful.
And this is another thing that would affect the so-called, you know, Adamu or gold-mining beings that they were trying to mine control.
Because, first of all, you're in the presence of a lot of gold in this place.
And gold...
Is a conductor and also can also transfigure.
Well, it's actually can create a portal into the other dimensions.
But aside from that, it's also used in space travel, as the secret space program knows very well.
And on top of it, it can...
So you're talking about people, you know, not only being brain, you know, washed or mind controlled, but they're in an environment where this can be actually augmented or escalated.
It's possible, yeah.
Yeah, it's possible.
Well, it sounds like you're...
Excuse me, interested in how they possibly use gold mono-atomically.
Well, it's not just mono-atomically.
I mean, you're talking about a mineral in the ground in the area, you know, a concentration.
So you're talking about a very rich area where it's actually...
You know, in the actual electromagnetic environment in which they exist.
Well, I've been to places like that, places that have a high energy, like Sedona, and there were places in Hawaii that were just off the matrix.
So to answer your earlier question, I did start doing yoga and meditating quite a bit, and it just came naturally because of what was happening with my body.
So, you know, my relationship to energy is pretty wild sometimes.
I've taken it as far as I can go, and I think there's still a lot farther to go, but it's been one of those things that made me probably different as an engineer, is I was having a very profound, pragmatic experience doing martial arts and yoga and tai chi all at the same time, you know?
And it continues to this day.
It's an amazing, amazing process.
It's the best trip on this planet, as far as I'm concerned, is getting yourself back aligned with gravity because you'll have that energetic experience where all these things come like.
Is that the only way?
No.
It's a great way to keep yourself out of pain, to be extremely flexible and not bound up because your fascia holds all that stuff and you're not aware of it and you can't control it.
So without intervention, You can't change it.
You can change a lot of yourself, but you really do need intervention because there's an awareness that what's got you by the back of the neck is what you don't know that you don't know, and you can't do anything about that.
Okay.
Well, I'm not sure what you're saying with that when you say that without intervention.
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Okay.
Well, acupuncture also works very well, as well as, well, there's all kinds of hands-on treatments that various Chinese doctors Practitioners use to affect the body.
But moving along that line, I think one of the things that you brought to your book that was a little more unique than most, we're talking about these subjects, is that you really brought in The idea that mind control started a long time ago.
That humans have been mind controlled since the beginning and that in fact maybe that's part of our, at least our interactions with the Anunnaki and the intervention of the Anunnaki on the human genome.
I understand that you may not know or even be interested in all the various other races that have influenced and impacted our genome up to now, but I can say that certainly the Anunnaki is a very, very important point in our history, and so this is key information.
The other thing you did is you are kind of a cross-correlator, a synthesizer of information.
So, what I'd like you to do is also talk about, like, how your synthesis, you know, your conclusions that you reach, because some of your conclusions I agree with, and some of them I'm not so sure about.
And, you know, this is a topic that needs a lot of investigation, and it's still an open subject.
But can you talk about some of the conclusions that you had that went against the grain, so to speak?
Okay, sure.
Well, first of all, I started noticing from the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Enuma Elish and all these documents, there's a set of players, okay?
And there are key players and then there's some more minor players.
So some of the key players turned out to really challenge my belief systems, my religious belief systems, as I was growing up.
You don't even realize how strong they still are until they're challenged in this particular way for me.
I've always been a truth seeker and I've always been open to synthesizing information from any source.
That said, probably the most controversial thing for me in the very beginning was finding out That Allah is referenced in the Atrahesus as leading the rebellion of these workers on behalf of the Anunnaki.
And I ask myself in my first book, could that Allah be the same one who's the Allah behind the religion of Islam?
So I start synthesizing all these different names into relationships and countries as well.
So that was the first one.
And then, come to find out that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is from the city of Ur, where he was headquartered, and sent Abram out via Haran to take over the Levant with the promise that they were going to be given this land of milk and honey, right, in the Bible, right?
So that was the other one for me, is when I started digging into the city of Ur, which turns out to be A very important pre-deluvial city for the Anunnaki.
There was Nippur, and Ur, and Uruk, and Bad Tibera, and Sharupak, and all these major cities, and some of them have been found with researchers, and a ridu, can't leave a ridu out.
So I found out in the city of Ur that Abram's father, and I actually went and got a book on Abraham just to study this from various religious standpoints and doctoral standpoints.
When I found out that Abram's father was serving the deity in the city of Ur, I was like, wait a second, that's the city where Enlil is.
How can that be?
So all of a sudden I found out that Enlil was the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and he had lots of other names, whether it was El Shaddai or Yahweh or Jehovah.
They were all the same name.
My head almost spun off when I realized that.
Do you realize the impact of finding out who that being is?
He's the one who shows up in the Old Testament that they call God in Genesis 1, 18.
Let us create man in our image and our likeness.
It's him.
He was the head of the Anunnaki Council when they called that meeting.
Yeah, and I have to say, though, that there will be people that disagree with you.
Well, they can disagree with the museum.
They're putting it in there, right?
Yes, and just before we kind of get away from this area, though, this is where taking over of Iraq by the U.S. was very, very important.
As you may know and the whole significance of Saddam Hussein and who he thought he was Nebuchadnezzar reincarnated and the fact that he was opening the portals to the Anunnaki Which maybe some people aren't aware of.
And also the art, the beautiful pieces of art, some of which were stolen, some of which were destroyed, etc.
So this is the city of Ur and this area we're talking about.
Well, it was Ur, and it was all the way up to Mosul, where their museum was raided.
And, you know, we started out with Sir Henry Laird in the city of Nineveh, and then started working down the Tigris and Euphrates until we started finding it got older and older as we went into Sumer.
So that was number two.
So I found out Allah was one of the rabble-rousers and a fellow god with the Ajiji.
That's what came out of the tablet, one of the octahazos.
Then I fast-forwarded and found out that That Enlil, who was the head of the council, his dad was back on Naburu.
If you read, they drew lots, and Enlil was rank 50, Lord of the Earth.
And there he was in Mesopotamia, just like he'd drawn lots to have that place.
So he knew he was supposed to be there.
Everything that happened in Mesopotamia after they drew lots was under his rules.
So that was number two for me.
And then to come to find out that what happened on Abram's watch to overtake the Levant area, and it was a genocide.
Listen, this wasn't land that was unoccupied.
This was genocide.
Then I realized, wait, this being who calls himself God in the Old Testament, Enlil, dispatched Abram to do that.
And so that, to me, was like, okay, who is this being?
And he shows up in the Atrehasis, the one bringing the disease, cutting off the food, and ordering the flood.
Okay, so I'm like, wait a second.
This is the great deceiver, the great MF and destroyer, and he's being venerated as the god of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the three world's religions.
And all of a sudden, I realized that I was in deep water here because...
First of all, the biggest deception, in my opinion, in the history of mankind has taken place by the great destroyer portraying himself as the creator of all.
And the reality is, when you dig into the Anunnaki records, the creator of all was someone they venerated that was not even part of this dimension.
So all of a sudden, you realize one of the Anunnaki came here.
He had a mission to get resources.
He imposed himself as God and started laying out the law for, okay, You Jewish people, you've got to follow the law or I'm going to kill you.
And he was the God of wrath and vengeance for them and he still is.
Why would you have a fear of your Creator?
Think about that.
Okay?
That was number one.
Okay?
And then you see Nanar Sin, the crescent mood god, showing up as the god of Islam.
And now, if you go to the second dynasty of Ur, that same city, in the Lamentations of Ur that I put in my second book, Enlil and his father, Anu, met on a council and decided to nuke that city with all the inhabitants inside.
Is that your God?
I'm going to lay it down right now.
Is that your God, people that are going after me?
I'm telling you what, if that's it, go along with him and see what happens.
Okay, well, let me throw something out here that you might, I don't know if you've looked at it like this, but my understanding of the way the Anunnaki operated Is that they knew damn well they weren't God, but that they decided to deceive the humans into believing they were gods and God, per se, God.
But even in the Bible, the word God, I think it's Elohim or whatever it is, actually means plural, gods.
That's right.
Interestingly enough, on a psychological basis, what they were really doing was deceiving the humans into putting all of their spirituality into their rulers, which are the Anunnaki, and believing they are the embodiment of the Creator in the big sense of that word.
That's right.
It's actually not only the Jews that were deceived in this way, but it was all the different religions, especially the people that wrote the Bible.
And so when they use the word God in the Bible, this is a problem.
It is for me.
In other words, it's a mixture.
Sometimes they're talking about, you might say, creator with a big C. And sometimes they're talking about creator with a small c and they really mean an Anunnaki.
Enki was a geneticist.
He never claimed to be the god of the creation of all.
Only his brother did that was not even involved in the process, okay?
So keep that in mind.
Right.
Number two, he venerated the creator of all.
He knew that, you know, what they did was expeditious to have biological meat hosts doing their bidding.
Well, listen, they brought the Ajiji.
They were doing it before.
So it wasn't like something new for them to have people working on their behalf.
Now, whether they viewed it as slavery or not, I don't know.
Okay, but they revolted, so they sure didn't like what they were being asked to do.
You mean the huge...
Yeah.
Yeah, so that was...
So now what I've laid out is we found out Allah was one of Enlil's kids.
He's his son, by the way.
Nanar Sin, as Allah, is Enlil's son.
He was the king of the city of Ur when it was nuked.
He was the rabble-rouser that led the Ajiji up against Enlil's house in the Atrehasis.
There's a good reason for that.
So, now we find out that he's claiming in Genesis to be the creator made man in our image and our likeness.
Well, that was a council decision in the Anunnaki records where they said that, exactly that.
Okay, now, I mean, let me also go back to your sources.
Let's sort of, because what you're doing, again, you're a synthesizer, and you're gathering information from things like the Nag Hammadi scrolls that were, some of these things in the Book of Enoch were hidden, actually.
So they weren't even...
I'm telling you right now...
It's coming only from the ultrahasis.
I'm just sticking with the ultrahasis for a reason because I'm so tired of people going, well, he didn't translate it right.
Listen, what I'm telling you is in stone in the British Museum.
I'm not making this up.
I'm not synthesizing anything here.
I'm conveying what's on those tablets to you right now.
I am a good synthesizer and I do that as well.
I usually do that in a correlation level learning before I ever bring it to the public.
Okay, hold on.
So just because, you know, I want my audience to understand, you know, we have a small audience here.
It's not that small, but, you know, but actually when it goes on YouTube, there'll be thousands, if not millions, that will see this.
So I want to make sure that we're clear.
So the Atrahasis, if you can again explain, because if you say you're referring to the Atrahasis, and I had the definition on the screen just earlier.
Right, right.
But can you explain why are you using that as your, in a sense, your definitive text?
Well, for number one, it was a document that was held by the University of Oxford and was translated by their academic team.
It had nothing to do with Sitchin.
Listen, I love Sitchin, but I could not bring him in and use him as references while everybody's putting daggers in his back, okay?
So I went to the highest academic source From Stephanie Dahle, who was a researcher in the field, actually touching these tablets, okay?
And I believed, and I've looked at the digital archives, I believe their translations were as good as any on this planet.
That's why I started with it.
Not because I didn't believe the Lost Book of Enki or the Book of Enoch or any of that other, but I significantly reference those 11 tablets in there because why?
It names all the main players, who did what to whom, and how we ended up in this situation if you just read those.
Who did the genetic modification?
Who actually had their hands on?
We didn't talk about Enki, who was the geneticist that actually did the in vitro fertilization into his half-sister, Nen Hartzog, who was the medical officer in the city of Shurupak, where Noah was the king.
Now I'm synthesizing.
But Noah had several names.
He was called Atrahasis.
He was called Ziasudra.
And in the Epic of Gilgamesh, he was called Utnapishtim.
That's why Gilgamesh left on his Epic was to go find him to find out how he could get eternal life like he got.
So the whole story was about.
Okay, excellent.
Now, you've also put together, I assume you've read the book of Enoch as well, right?
Right.
And so, as I recall your book, and I may be wrong here, but you didn't seem to bring in a lot from that.
You didn't bring in a lot about what are referred to constantly as the Watchers.
Right.
Well, okay.
Tell me about your perspective on that.
Well, they clearly...
The Ajiji were, in my opinion, the Watchers.
Okay?
Because if 200 of them...
What do you think they're made of?
I think they look very much like the Anunnaki.
As a matter of fact, I think they're just a subclass of the Anunnaki.
As a matter of fact, in the Altrahasis, they call them fellow gods.
These are not like shackled.
Are you calling the Ejiji the same thing as the Nephilim?
Well, the Ejiji, I believe, were the Watchers.
The Nephilim were the offspring of the Watchers with the humans, and the Elohim were the high-ranking Anunnaki that were on the council, generally speaking.
Does that make...
Does that...
Okay.
Okay.
So...
Yes, and can you describe the Elohim or Anunnaki?
You're actually saying the Anunnaki, which I've often thought was the case, although a lot of people don't want to believe that, but the Anunnaki and the Elohim, describe them physically.
Well, I don't have to go very hard to do that because they left statues and images of themselves all over the planet.
So they look like the archetype of male and female generally.
They seem to be taller than humans by a couple of feet in some cases, some cases more.
They're generally white skinned, blue eyed, Which I found very interesting because this came from the Book of the Year.
And the men had beards.
The men had beards, yes.
Yeah, they generally had beards.
All over the things, the structure, you know, the carvings in Iran, for example.
Oh, yeah.
The Cliffs of the Histoon is one of my favorites.
It shows Enki in his winged disc over the three different languages describing how Darius I had put down all these uprisings with Enki's help.
Another name for Enki, and you have to get used to this with the Anunnaki, They lived a very long time.
They were in dang near every culture.
If you dig into it, you'll find out who their gods were.
It was the Anunnaki or their offspring.
So the fact that their name would show up in one culture and then be called another name in another culture, to us, you know, that's like impossible.
But to them, they did it all the time.
So let's just do a couple.
We started sneaking up on Allah.
We snuck up on Enlil, who called himself God.
Enki was our creator.
Actually, he was a geneticist, but he doesn't call us God.
He calls our creator of all God, right?
So now we got two creators that we don't either one understand.
Then there's Isis, Nin Hartzog, who was actually Enki's half-sister in the medical officer.
She's very important to this story.
Shows up in the Egyptian story about Isis, Osiris, and Horus.
So these beings, when you look at a god table and compare them in what culture their name was, as you progress forward from Sumer all the way through Greece and then Rome, and then you can go forward in time more,
you realize that these main players, let's just do the three big ones, We had Enlil, who was then known as Yahweh in the Bible, who became Zeus in Greece, who became Satan, according to John in the New Testament, when he talked about his city at Pergamum.
The seat of Satan was in Pergamum.
Well, the Temple of Zeus was in Pergamum, right?
It's at the East Berlin Museum.
You can go see it today.
Okay, so all of a sudden, we start seeing these names going across from Mesopotamia over into Greece and Rome.
And by the day, it was called Jupiter in Rome.
Okay?
So then we can take Enki and do the same thing.
EA in the Enuma Elish was his name.
He shows up as Enki, which means Lord of the Earth, when he first got here about 450,000 years ago.
Enlil means Lord of the Earth.
Enlil became Enki, or Enki, EA became Enki, which became Poseidon in Greece, and he was also known as Neptune in Rome.
Well, that was his planet chosen out of the Enuma Elish.
They each had planetary affiliations.
Enola had chosen Jupiter.
Enki had chosen Neptune.
Ningshida, who was known as Thoth the Atlantic and Thoth in Egypt, was Enki's son.
And he was a geneticist as well.
And he's where all the controversy comes in.
Yes.
I want to ask you about Marduk.
Because you may know the cult and all about the return of Marduk and all of that.
Have you followed any of that?
I do.
Well, Marduk was Enki's firstborn son of him and his wife Damkina.
I'm sorry, his half-sister.
So he was actually in line to rule.
Marduk was.
Whereas his next son, Ningshida, had a different set of constraints because his wife was, or his mother was a Reshignol.
We can talk about these family lines got crossed over.
Yeah, the Indolites and the Inkiites, they sometimes crossed over to try and bring At the time that the lots were cast and his father got Africa, had no business being in Mesopotamia, which was Enel's area.
He decided to stay there and set up the city of Babylon, which he believed was a place where he built 12 apartments, essentially, for the other gods on the council to come and be there, because he was trying to build a bond heaven-earth there, which was what the Tower of Babel was, so that he could launch craft back and forth, To Nibiru, through the wave stations on Mars, whatever it was, bypassing Enlil's command authority all over the Sinai and Mesopotamia where he was in charge.
So all of a sudden you got one of Enlil's kid, or half-brother's kids, who's in your territory, who's basically threatening your command, right?
So Marduk ended up causing significant wars between the Anilites and the Ankiites, and this actually involved the general Abram as they fought over the territory near Haran.
So that was actually part of Marduk's forces, the kings of the east that were fighting with him.
So when you look into the Bible, you'll see that.
So eventually Marduk, about 2000 BCE, according to records, made it all the way to the highest ranked Of the Anunnaki Council on Earth, which was ranked 50.
And in commemoration of that, the 50 names of Marduk were read every spring in Babylon, along with the Enuma Elish, their epic of creation, showing how our solar system came into being.
So it looked like Marduk was playing avenger to his father, according to some of the writings that we saw in the past, by staying in Mesopotamia, in the region that belonged to Enlil.
But It's not really clear because he seems to have had a falling out with his father's wishes, who was Enki.
And if I had to guess right now, based on what I'm seeing with the arches of Baal, by the way, if you look at what happened in Palmyra with Isis destroying those arches, these arches were dedicated to the god Baal.
Baal was another name for Bel Marduk.
So if you look in how the proximity of Palmyra Syria to Babylon, they're pretty close.
And Marduk had influence in that area.
So he was trying to take over the entire region and take it away from Anil.
And it looks like he did it for a short period of time.
And we don't know exactly what arrangement happened.
Between Anilu, who had the position of 50, and Marduk, Enki's son, that got it, because there were just constant wars.
And one of Anu's grandchildren, Anana, who was known as Hathor in Egypt, was very much involved in those wars, in the Pyramid Wars in Egypt.
So the Enkiites down in Egypt, the Enlilites up in Mesopotamia after they drew lots, And there was nothing but conflict.
And it's always been that way.
I actually looked at these guys and thought, you know what?
You guys are advanced beings from another planet and do all this crazy stuff.
Why can't you get along?
And then you start asking the question about, were they all fallen angels like the right-wing Christians would have you believe?
Not all of them were.
I mean, their personalities, and I've said this I don't know how many times, seem to range from serial killer to saint, just like we have today.
And so they weren't just like us.
We're just like them.
Absolutely.
Well, these are our forefathers, so to speak.
So if you look at also in Egypt, you can see, and this also goes on in Iran and I'm sure in Iraq, you'll always see a little human on the lap of an Anunnaki, this kind of thing.
So, I mean, there's so much symbolism on the walls carved in the Middle East, and a lot of it never makes it here, which is really quite fascinating.
Right, right.
I wanted to tell you, I just recently got the Egyptian Book of the Dead, and I was reading through it, and looking at all the wonderful pictures, and I think it's in its umpteenth republication edition.
It's been around for a long time.
But one of the things that kept coming up is...
Well, there's a ton of symptoms around Kundalini activation in these things that people don't recognize.
So now at this point, you've actually done sort of a really tour de force in terms of covering a lot of history very quickly.
Yeah.
So I wanted to ask you if you can talk now about Where you think this is going, because, and I am curious, what kind of academic, I don't know, backlash have you experienced since 2013 when you published your book?
Well, it's been a very isolating experience.
Let me just say that, without naming any names or anything.
But at the same time, you find an online community of all the people and the seekers that are turning over the rocks and Seeking the truth, and they become your new community.
I've had a few people reach out.
There were a few people in my space that I'd shown genealogy tables to and discussed that I was writing a book, but very few.
These were people outside the company that were technical, that were coming in as service providers, if you will, that were on the same story.
There's a few of those, but not that many.
Ever since I went public, though, I've had lots more From all over the world that connect with me, engineers, scientists, lots of different, all walks of life.
Okay, are you familiar with Anton Parks?
I am.
And did you look into his material?
I read his book, Eden.
With great fascination.
In particular, that the tablets that he had come across were Enlil-like tablets, meaning they were from one of Enlil's—I think they were from Nippur, as a matter of fact.
That's what was so interesting to me, because Nippur was the Anunnaki Mission Control Center for their original setup to go back and forth with ore.
It had later moved up into higher ground after they got flooded so many times, but that was one of their original mission control centers.
So Anton Park's book had lots of those tablets in there.
There was good in it, but there was also some stuff I did not agree with, so we'll just say that.
Okay.
Not to get too much into that, but I am curious.
You were able to read that book.
I think he has quite a bit of other material, and I'm actually very fascinated by his work, and I don't know if he speaks English.
I've tried to get a, you know, contact him for an interview.
I know that Jerry Zeitlin, I believe is his name, was a translator.
Did you ever get in touch with him or Did you ever look at his translations?
Oh, I looked at all the translations.
As a matter of fact, I went so far as to download all the Sumerian cuneiform uniform codes I have them all.
I have all the dictionaries.
And I've actually done videos showing people how you can read Sumerian cuneiform.
You don't have to leave this to Anton Parks or anyone else.
If you're patient, you can do it.
And you don't have to do the whole thing.
Maybe there's just a particular flood tablet that you're focused on to find out that Could it have been that the Bible borrowed the flood story and the Genesis story from the Sumerians, which wrote their documents thousands of years prior to the Bible?
Could that be the case?
You can go in in a very limited sense and short time.
You can read it for yourself because some people, and I was one of them, was at a place I cannot believe that we were lied to to this extent, such that I have to basically become a translator, a linguist, in order to find out the truth.
That's kind of the position they put us in, right?
Right.
But I was willing to go.
Well, along those lines, let me ask you.
Have you been to the Middle East?
I've been to I actually the closest I got was to Turkey.
So I actually didn't go to Saudi Arabia.
I have not been to Iraq, but I have been to Turkey.
OK, so you haven't been to Egypt?
Not yet.
When are we going?
Absolutely.
I would love to go to Egypt.
I've studied it and studied it and studied it virtually, remotely.
Well, I've already taken one group there.
I'd be happy to take you there and maybe get a bunch of other speakers on board.
I've been dying to go back.
Really?
Yeah, it's endlessly fascinating.
Egypt is just over the top.
But there's more.
It was so fascinating to me because...
In the Atrehasis Tablet, Enki drew lots and everything that happened in Africa was under essentially him and his kinship, right?
So, you know, it shouldn't be a surprise that Marduk, who originally was up in Babylon, after everything went badly for him, he ended up coming down to establish the Nubian kingdom.
So he was down in Africa, right?
And his brother Thoth was there as well.
Ultimately, they didn't see eye to eye in terms of how the calendar was being used to corroborate whose turn it was to rule, right?
That's what the zodiacal house was used for, is to delineate who's going to be in charge on the Anunnaki Council.
And that's when they had the big council changes.
So you asked me where this goes as we fast forward.
Well, guess what?
We just entered a new zodiacal house.
So you should expect to see all kinds of clamoring for power and change of guard on the Anunnaki Council.
That's exactly what we're seeing.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So, you know, this idea of a new world order showing up coincident while we're changing over a zodiacal house?
There's no coincidence.
In other words, going from Pisces to Aquarius.
Right.
So I was looking back over the zodiacal houses and who was in charge, trying to look for patterns when I was doing my research.
And I found out that they seemed to try to go from an Enlilite to an Enkiite to an Enlilite.
So they were trading families to decide who was going to be on this council.
And they didn't do it every time.
Like I said, Marduk took over the council in 2000 BC. Well, I was in the middle of, you know, it wasn't quite at the beginning of a zodiacal house, right?
So what was he doing?
So, you know, they had the rules, but they also were very Very forceful beings.
When their will was determined, it was almost unchangeable.
Whether it came to destruction or creation, it was quite amazing.
They built some fantastic structures for us to see here today.
Everything from ziggurat temples to the Giza complex that Thoth in his documents says he built.
I can't even believe what's going on in Egyptology where they're still fishing around trying to determine the age of these things when Thoth tells you what it is in his documents.
And I actually did a non-equivalence house, zodiacal A wheel that went backwards two times to the age of Leo to see if it corresponded with what he wrote.
And it turns out it was exactly what he wrote.
About 34,000 years ago was when he actually built the main Giza, the three main pyramids.
And all the other stuff came much later, much, much later.
So he says this in his documents.
And I published this.
I know it's going to cause a lot of ire.
Because even moving it from, you know, Zoser supposedly building the pyramids up to 10,000 I agree.
Did you write about that in Mercury Rising or where?
Well, in the Mercury Rising book, so the first book, I laid out the God table, said, here's who all the Anunnaki were.
Here's what they did to enslave us.
Here's this new world order that the one faction wants to set up.
The other one doesn't want that.
They want a new Atlantis.
They're fighting against each other, okay?
So the concept of a new Atlantis trying to rise while a new world order, which really is an old world order, if you look at the kind of beatdown we're getting, this is what they did with, you know, old civilizations.
It's not new.
So that's happening simultaneously.
And at the same time, you know, we're caught in the middle of it as pawns trying to figure out what role we play.
And this is where the other being who comes in who's so significant to me was, in the first book I said, okay, the Anunnaki, I've convinced you the Anunnaki probably created us, you know, by genetically modifying a bipedal hominid on the steppes of Africa that we know Lewis and Leakey found.
And if that's true, Then, you know, everything we believed is wrong.
So if the Anunnaki created us, then who created the Anunnaki and what is the big picture here?
How do we fit in?
You know, where we come from and where are we going kind of question.
So I decided in my second book to take the person that was involved in genetically upgrading us just prior to the Garden of Eden story.
That was Enki's geneticist son, the Caduceus carrier, who turned out to be Thoth in Egypt.
His name in the Enuma Ilish was Mumu, because he was affiliated with the planet Mercury.
And in the Sumerian documents, he's called Ningxida or Gazeta.
That's what he's called in the Adapa tale, as he escorts the Adapa up to meet Anu, right?
And talk about this slave that we just built and how he was constrained.
We gave him intelligence and And a limited lifespan of 120 years.
Well, that being was very important to me because he seemed to have gotten the mission and had volunteered to guide the humans out of their holographic enslavement that he knew his father didn't really like.
So Enki Poseidon gave him a mission in the Emerald Tablets to go to Egypt and wake up beings.
And that's why he ended up opening these mystery schools.
So I took his perspective, dug into his documents very deeply and followed Thoth All the way from the Enuma Elish, all the way to the point where it looks like he was in multiple avatars, according to Edgar Cayce.
And I agree with him, by the way, with my research.
He was multiple avatars that were here to wake up humans.
He was Buddha.
He was Confucius.
He was Melchizedek, and on and on and on.
Then when you actually say, guess what?
He was also an avatar of this being you call Yeshua, who was sent up to the Levantine to wake up these humans under Enel's beatdown authority that was going on there.
Well, when you say that, you fill out this final god table and you go, okay, Enel was the geneticist.
Enel played the role of the great deceiver, destroyer.
Ola's one of his kids that's running a religion.
Marduk is involved as well.
I think he's actually over puppeteering the EU right now, set up the old Roman Empire, all ten of them, right?
That's what the EU was.
So I think Enel and Marduk are actually working together.
And they seem to be bringing about their concept of the old world order down.
They're calling it a new world order, but this is a tyrannical beatdown.
Completely ignore the rights of humans.
Whereas at the same time, Enki and his son Nishida and Isis are three major players that were involved in our creationist account.
Look what's happening to their symbols.
Isis is now affiliated with a barbaristic mob that's killing Christians, killing everybody.
They don't care who it is.
You're talking about a name smear?
You think that wasn't done intentionally by the Anilites?
It damn sure wasn't.
He's saying to her, you brought these beings into this world.
They're a bunch of barbarians.
And I tell you what, if you look in from the outside at this planet, what's happening in man's humanity, man, you can't deny that we call the Anunnaki fallen angels.
We're pure demons, what we do to each other.
You tell me I'm wrong.
It's disgusting, and has been for the entire zodiacal house that they've been in charge.
Well, that's about to change, and that's the only good news that we really see is, you know, there's a massive change coming in human consciousness, and it turns out this rising of Atlantis is affiliated with that, whereas the New World Order absolutely is not.
It's designed to stop it.
So that is the war that's going on in my mind.
And as far as I'm concerned, we should not be protesting on the street.
We shouldn't be taking up guns.
We should be working on energetically changing ourselves so that we all be used as the agents to overthrow this enslavement of human consciousness.
Absolutely.
Okay, so I want to ask you how Nibiru factors in here and whether you think that there is such a thing as, you know, Planet X or Return of Nibiru.
Have you thought about that?
And actually, I think you have because you wrote like a small book.
I think I saw it.
I didn't get all the way through it.
It's just like a little...
I just did a video on it on the leak project a couple of days ago, so I walked through the document because I know there's math in there, and that means you've got to read.
Okay, but I just didn't do that.
So how does Nibiru fit into this?
In the Enuma Ilish, which is also a clay tablet that's on display in a museum that you can go see, this is the Anunnaki's creation account of how our solar system came in to be, and they tell it Kind of as a blow-by-blow, almost like it's a sporting event where they treat it as an allegory of a battle of these billiard balls of planets that are bumping into each other in space.
That's how they describe it.
And they've affiliated their names with some of them to kind of make them the character that participated in that story.
It's very complicated, by the way.
And I broke it down in my first book and my second one.
And I told it a little different way in the second book.
Then I did in the first one, but I do the blow-by-blow, but I also give you the big picture.
The bottom line is they believe their little planetary complex that included multiple planets was trapped into our solar system by some event.
They didn't describe exactly what that was.
I believe it was the galactic ecliptic causing perturbations in their orbit that caused us just too close where they got caught as a binary star with our sun.
That's my opinion.
So they describe this account where they get caught into our sun's orbit in a very long elliptical orbit.
They have some collisions.
One of their satellites of the planet Nibiru, which they, in the account that we have from the old Babylonian version, their planet is called Marduk because Marduk affiliated himself with that planet because he believed he was going to be the king of Nibiru someday.
He had pretty high aspirations.
Well, we have older documents to show, including in the Colburn Bible, The name of the planet is Nibiru, okay?
So, a lot of different names.
Planet X. Some people are trying to demote Pluto and rename the new planet, Planet Nine.
All these different shenanigans, okay?
The fact is, the Anunnaki described their planet as getting caught in a retrograde orbit.
In our solar system, taking approximately 3,600 years, they call it a Char.
They use that numbering system to delineate the rulership for all their kings in the first Sumerian kings list, and you'll see that.
And it even shows up in the Atrehasis.
In the very first tablet, it talks about the Ajiji who were working in the mines for an entire shah before they revolted.
So I just went through this document recently and said, no, okay, so the Sumerians said it was real.
Some people have affiliated it.
If you read Further on, even from the Epic of Gilgamesh, that there was a flood account that they have affiliated with the passage of their planet near our sun, causing magnetic effects and floods.
And so I said, okay, well, maybe that's true.
If you go to Critias' account when he speaks with Plato, he goes so long, discusses going to the city of Sais in Egypt, Getting access to a priest there that tells him about the history of Atlantis and that there were multiple major floods, meaning most of the surface of the planet got flooded, and lots of minor ones too.
So which one do you want to talk about?
So we call Noah's flood as if there was only one flood.
And most of us believe that that happened approximately at the end of the last ice age, about 12,000 years ago.
Where do we want to go with that?
Did I answer your question?
Whether Nabooru is real.
Let's stay on that for a minute because I did write a report.
I wrote a report in April and I went at this from multiple sources, historical documents, We're part of the equation.
The most important thing to me as a scientist was what data we got from the IRAS scope in 1981 that was announced in the papers.
And I believe Dr.
Harrington got that information much sooner, probably in the late 70s.
And knowing that he had read Sitchin's book that was written in 1976, he knew about the Unima Illich and had probably gone off and read the independent version himself.
So he knew about this concept of an intruder planet that had tilted the plane of Neptune and Uranus.
And even in his interview that he did with Zechariah Sitchin in December of 1990, they got together, did a video interview.
I've got it on my website.
Harrington shows Sitchin his map and Sitchin shows him his orbital map and says, this is what I think.
This is what you think.
They were in total agreement about the reality of the existence of Nibiru and where it was, if you took into account the procession of the equinox from biblical times.
That's what Harrington said.
To now and where it would pass.
So he believed it was going to be able to be seen in the constellation Libra in the South.
And so he had gone to a significant extent to put that data out for people, okay?
So I used the data from the IRS scope that was reported by Harrington in 1981 in the papers.
And the data from Dr.
Neugebauer in the papers.
And I used that to put a table, an orbital table together, the best of what I know, based on, you know, what the Sumerians told us.
And I calculated using some adjustment factors, if you will, for the inner orbit or the slingshot rate.
And that's when I got a little concerned because I realized my window went from about 2015 to 2017.
And I started asking myself, well, could all these people that are out here looking at second suns be not just showing lens flares?
You know, what's going on here?
So I had written about Nibiru's passage in my first book.
I didn't pay real significantly close attention to where the passage point in history could have been and where we thought it was now because it was so...
There was a dark period from 93 forward where a lot of information about the Anunnaki was suppressed, especially about Nibiru.
So that's kind of where I'd land.
And I've followed everybody else's research.
I've followed...
Van Flanderen's research.
I followed several other people's.
I've watched what came out of the Chilean Observatory just recently that spawned a release out of Caltech by Mike Brown, which I think was a total red herring.
So I think it's real.
I think the increasing earthquakes and earth changes that you're seeing right now are coincident with what happened during the biblical exodus and also probably Noah's flood.
So I made a table.
And I started thinking about, well, if the biblical exodus happened around 1600 BCE, something like that, let me do a table and add 3600 years for each one of the shards of Nabooru's passage and go back in time and go forward in time so I can see, you know, the map.
And, you know, you have to understand if something's 3600 years in orbit, it could be plus or minus several years.
So I don't think 3600 years is an exact number, okay?
But using it as an average, I went back in time to say, well, suppose that was the case.
Where would it have crossed in the past?
And it turns out to have crossed around 1585 to 1600 BCE, somewhere in there, which we know was the biblical exodus.
So it looks like those plagues of Egypt that we saw could very well coincide with the destructive capability of Nibiru when it comes by.
And so I found that quite interesting.
Yeah, that little audio track there, which is that you just found?
Yes.
At the bottom of that tab, I want everybody to listen to that anonymous message from Enki.
I got it a long time ago, and I turned it into an audio file.
But as time has gone by, And I corroborated what that document says.
It turns out to be very significant.
He talks a lot about Nibiru's approach and what's going on with the chemtrailing and all that kind of stuff, okay?
And supposedly this...
Yeah, you're looking right at it.
Supposedly that message is directly from Enki himself.
Now, if Enel's here...
No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Slow down.
How is it from Enki?
Where does it come from?
It turned out, and I have to give you the background.
I give it to you up here.
This was sent to me from a fan, and I didn't know what the source was until I went perusing around.
It turned out it had been given to, I think the name of the site was Truth Frequency.
Does that ring a bell?
Something like that?
It looked like it had been posted up there, and they had a short little blip about some anonymous person gave me this, and I don't know if it's worth anything, but I'll put it up.
Well, somebody sent it to me, and I read it, and I was like, wow, somebody had to be a real insider to make this up, or could it be real?
So, you know, I just put it in the background, and I'm just processing this thing to see if what he said in there is true.
So, supposedly, this is a message directly from Enki himself, and I included the entire text message in the Nabooru Orbital Report, especially the stuff where he talks about Nabooru and what's going on.
So, a quick note, just some of the things he said.
He said Nibiru is coming soon.
He said that the chemtrails started as a geoengineering project in the 1990s to limit the solar radiation as Nibiru came closer, because he knew that holes would be opened up into our, I don't know, Electromagnetic shield, if you will, and we wouldn't be as protected from CMEs and so on and so forth.
So he describes us in this document.
Well, it turns out we just found out that in the 90s is when the geoengineering started with the chemtrailing.
So a lot of corroboration turns out to show up in this document.
So that's why I waited to really make a deal out of it until I'd had a chance to Okay, so what this is then, I take it is, and I think I might have heard this already, this is a guy who thinks he is Enki or he's downloading Enki, right?
No, they didn't say.
They didn't say.
It wasn't a channeled message.
It just specifically said, it's an anonymous message that I want you to put out.
And here are the rules.
Just don't change any of it.
It wasn't a channeling, according to the being that gave it to him.
Okay.
So I found that kind of interesting.
Not that there's anything wrong with channeling.
No, no, I agree.
But, yeah, one person's channeler is another person's channeler.
Right, right.
So anyway, I didn't spend a lot of time on it in my document.
I put it there as background information that if any of it corroborates with your knowing, like it's in my mind.
For instance, there was one part of it where Enki is describing when the Adapa went up to meet Anu, his father, to essentially...
Show Anu what this primitive worker looked like, and he had given him a constraint tablet to say what I designed you.
Here's his genetics, right?
Here's what I did.
And he had pre-coordinated with the Sadapa, or the biblical Adam, to go up and cower before Anu, not take the food or the drink that he offered him, and only to wear mourning garb, and to go up showing up disheveled looking.
This is in the account.
And in this message, Enki says, no, you did that before.
Do not cower before Anu anymore.
He's talking about a relationship with the being he created with his father.
This is really esoteric, deep stuff.
When you look at it, somebody was able to take his perspective, Enki's perspective, and write this document.
Now, whether it was an insider or Or it's false information.
I can't say.
But I can tell you internally, whenever I read something that's true for me, maybe not all of it, I go into corroboration mode and I look for physical evidence to say, well, is that the case?
Because, you know, I like to go the second mile.
And that anonymous message was very influential to me.
I actually think it's true.
And I think it is from Anki himself.
All right.
Well, you know, there is multiple...
Evidence, even from our whistleblowers, that the Anunnaki are here.
They're walking around on the Earth, and not just the ones that are their descendants, but the actual original ones, Enki and Enlil, are supposedly here, as well as Marduk, may be back.
Marduk having been, I believe, exiled to Mars for a long time.
Yeah, well, I think they come and go, but the main party...
That's been here since they showed up has never left permanently.
They've always left a presence here.
Everybody's talking about the Anunnaki coming back.
Guess what?
They never left.
In essence, that appears to be...
Some of them did.
I agree with you.
Some of them were sent into exile.
Some of them were killed and had to rejuvenate their bodies and all that.
They truly could do this.
It's mind-blowing.
Okay, so at this point, we've been going for a while, actually, and this is the point in which I ask for questions from the audience.
So are you up for a couple of questions from the audience at this point?
Yeah, I'm probably not at a place where I want to do any wild ass guesses or anything like that.
So if it's stuff that I've written about that I talk about, I definitely feel it.
I'll do the best I can.
Okay.
Okay, so we'll take some questions.
If you want to ask questions, put them in all caps at this moment, because the chat has been going on for a while, so rather than try to go back over what's already here, I can see one question right off the bat.
Who are the Russians with, is the question.
I'm not sure if that's the way they're framing it is making sense, but go ahead.
Well, in my second book, I talked about the relationship of the United States with Russia in World War I and World War II, which was quite interesting.
We're on the same side.
Then we ended up in the Cold War, where it looks like the Russians were the demons and they were the communists.
I served in the military, and when I was in the military as a helicopter pilot, I mean, it was rah-rah, let's kill a commie for mommy.
You know, that's how we were trained.
And we even trained against Russian tactics and equipment.
So they were just demonized, right?
So what's going on in Russia now?
It's very, very interesting.
I believe, and I said this based on Paul Hellyer's discussion of the two tall whites that are at Indian Springs in Nevada, I truly believe that based on the symbols and what happened after World War II, you can go look at the missile program in my second book.
They're named after the Anunnaki gods from Greece, right?
There's the Zeus and the Titaness.
So the Anunnaki that were behind World War II and representing America actually landed back in America.
So I believe since about 19...
50 or so, that Enlil and his cohorts have been running the United States.
Okay, so we'll just pin that one down.
The sign of the eagle is Enlil's.
You got it?
He's the lord of the air.
Now, if you look at the Triton symbol, this was Poseidon's symbol, right?
What symbol was on the Ukrainian flag before they were just overrun by an outside-sponsored coup that overthrew the rulers in Kiev?
What was that symbol?
It was the trident.
Anki's territory seems to have included the area over.
And, you know, they changed, too.
They seem to change.
But I believe Anki is completely behind the Russian Empire right now, opposing the United States Empire that Enel has control of.
So Enel and his brother have the two most powerful nations bid against each other, essentially.
I believe that's what's going on.
And I believe that remnants of Enlil's clan are working with America and Europe.
And remnants of Enlil's clan are working with the alliances behind Russia, whether it's India and China or wherever.
And I have to say, if I was...
If you remember the Titans and the Olympians in Greece, they had a war, right?
And the Olympians won and the Titans were put in this terrible underground prison, right?
Well, if you go back and realize that the Atlanteans were the Titans and that Zeus beat his brother, Poseidon, in a war, and that's why you haven't seen your benefactor, Prometheus Enki, in the scenes while humans have been used as pawns and just pretty much Eliminate it, and it's accelerating.
I mean, the death rate, I think, is going to accelerate even more.
So I believe if you look at their symbols and their logos, you can find out what countries they're puppeteering.
And they may not stay there forever, but if you read the Iliad from Homer, you'll realize that those Greek gods were getting involved, taking over bodies, Having this particular hero go smite that one.
They were absolutely involved in the battle.
Intricate details.
Yes, but there's also an interesting significance between the taking down of Greece right now and actually the Greek gods and the Romans.
United States is always depicted as Rome.
They were the same gods.
The Greek pantheon Okay, of 12, was the Anunnaki Council of Siberia.
Where do you think that 12 came from?
It came from them.
The Olympian Council was mostly composed of Enlilites by the time that happened.
Turns out that Hermes on the Council was none other than Thoth.
But Poseidon is one of the most significant gods of Greece.
Well, indeed, he was the most significant to Solon because he was the one who set up this amazing civilization of Atlantis.
He was the god of Atlantis, right?
Yeah.
He had the only temple there.
So Poseidon was an inky.
He was our genetic creator.
And he does factor significantly also in Malta and that area of the world.
I can guarantee you that.
Yeah, I saw that you've got a trip planned over that way.
But yeah, everything that happened in the...
The oceanic league, if you will, that Atlantis was the headquarters of, involved Enke and his offspring.
He had lots of kids there, too, if you look at the account.
If you read the Critias from Plato, there were lots of kids.
He had ten kids.
With the woman that he found on the island there in the first of the story, and she was a normal human.
So all these children were demigods, including Atlas, his first son, and the first king there.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, it's interesting.
You know, I'm not sure about all of it because as it happened, we know that Atlantis actually...
Well, it was hit by a meteor that was actually aimed at it, from my understanding, and demolished a good part of it.
And it actually was hit...
If you look into the work of Ashayana Deane...
And her Voyager books, it tells a history of Atlantis, which is more than one hit over history that took down the gigantic island.
So it wasn't just one time.
And the results are still to be found in both the Atlantic and the Mediterranean.
And certain other places.
But it's a real mixed bag because you get other beings coming in Atlantis because there were many, you know, that was a spacefaring culture.
And so you get a lot of other what we call ETs, the blue beings.
Blue-skinned beings that are written about in the Mahabharata.
That's a very good read, by the way, the Mahabharata.
As a matter of fact, this morning, I have to tell you, I was watching this documentary on the Indus Valley, and it was absolutely fascinating.
Because, you know, in the Atrahasis, they talk about dividing these four regions, and it turns out one of the regions is the Indus Valley that Hathor and Nanakins.
By the way, I want to say right now, Hathor...
Inanna and Ninmah and Isis are not the same being.
Hathor is not Isis, okay?
And I keep seeing this over and over again.
Listen, they were vying for the same symbols.
So I don't doubt that Inanna is trying to take over the role of the greater mother, okay?
Yeah.
Well, she's a cat being, for one thing.
And Isis, you know, is someone else.
Yeah, so...
Okay, so...
Let's see.
Somebody...
Wants to know, are you saying the leaders are not human?
The Elohim that came from their home planet, no, they are not human.
As a matter of fact, they can be multidimensional beings.
They can appear in any avatar form in any dimension.
They pretty much is lower than the one that they're in.
And it looks like they came from...
The sixth dimension, if you read my second book, I actually broke up what Ning Shida Thoth told us about the constructs of the holographic universe.
He lays it out for you, tells you about all the rules of operating as an enslaved being.
And so that's why my second book is really profound.
It lays out the energetic way where energy meets matter within you, how to find that kingdom of heaven within and progress in your evolution of human consciousness.
You're an avatar here.
You're a spiritual being having a human experience.
And you get as far as you can get.
And you are, and I want to say this, I've been saying in the last couple shows, you are an instance of the creator of all.
You are eternal already.
You don't have to believe some dogma, go to some facility or anything else.
That will never change.
As soon as you accept that and start taking responsibility for your interface to the infinite, In your finite matter, the farther along you're going to get.
Okay?
And it's not about judgment.
It's about my God's bigger than your God.
We're all instances of the creator.
And as a matter of fact, in my second book, Thoth lays out that every planet he'd ever been to and visited in every dimension, we're all on the same journey back to the source.
And some people are farther along than others.
The lower dimensions from us are clearly not as far along as we are.
Whereas he mentions coming encounter with beings who no longer had to do physical work anymore.
They could manifest what they wanted through their thoughts.
You know, a quantum encryption encoding of the light encoding reality matrix.
They could do that.
And they talk about that.
It really opens up your mind more to realize that your relationship to energy, which comes from the creator of all, comes with not only responsibilities, but co-creative abilities that we're seeing in various places.
Richard talks about he learned how to be a remote viewer, right?
Richard Miller.
And other people have found other ways through meditation to have astral experiences.
Well, thought tells you.
Absolutely.
We're all co-creators of reality.
We're doing it every day.
We just don't recognize ourselves as such.
Exactly.
So somebody wants to know, and I'm, actually it's an Illuminati plot.
Yeah.
Do you want to address that at all?
I missed your question for about the last 20 seconds.
Okay, this person is talking about there are some people out there right now that are trying to reverse the roles.
In other words, they make Enlil the good guy and Enki the bad guy.
It's disinfo in my view, but this is what's going on.
That's been going on since the Atrehasis.
When you read the Atrehasis, okay, and then read the Genesis account, you'll realize that, A, number one, Enki and his half-sister, who was the medical officer, did all the genetic work, did all the creating work.
Enlil took credit for it.
Enlil showed up in the Garden of Eden as playing God while his half-brother, Enki, was there because it was his garden.
It was his town.
It was a ridu, okay?
Tells the beings, hey, you eat that plant, you'll surely die.
Well, Anki tells them, no, you'll have the consciousness that we have, right?
So this is symbolic of this very beginning battle between the evolution of consciousness for the slaves that Antelope only wanted slaves.
Actually, he didn't even want meat at all.
He wanted tools, which, you know, there's a lot to be said for that.
I talked about that in my second book.
Why not use tools instead of biological beings to do your mining?
So that kind of stuff came up.
And I lost my train of thought.
Tell me the question one more time.
No, you actually answered it.
So let's move on.
What can you say about the land?
This is the last question, and then we're going to let you go.
What can you say about the land of Lemuria?
I looked into it.
Yeah, I actually looked into that landmass and the history of those people when I was going to write a book called Kahuna Writes.
This was one of my very first books where I had learned about these Polynesians that had migrated to Hawaii because I was living there, right?
And they had brought some really, really Neat traditions, some of which crossed over into the field of structural integration because they had particular warriors who supposedly could leap from precipices and defy gravity, these guys, right?
And their secret to it all was getting extremely flexible.
They would go through this massage ritual where they would get all the kinks out of their body and they would turn into these like ninja warriors, right?
Like Bruce Lee.
And this discussion and this knowledge came from the Polynesians that were affiliated with the Lemurians.
So they believed that the land of Mu was a landmass before one of the big floods came and connected the beings there with those who were part of Atlantis as part of this oceanic lead.
I think it was probably flooded.
Probably some of the volcanic activity was going on in the islands, forced the other Polynesians that were there to leave.
And they, you know, migrated.
And some of them are still in Hawaii.
So some of their cultures and their traditions are still in the Hawaiian area.
And I'm sure if you go to Tonga or some of these other Polynesian islands, you can still get more information on these ancient peoples that I believe were remnants of Atlantis.
Well, yes, I can say that there are also supposedly aquatic beings that came out of the sea, and often it is said that the Japanese people may be affiliated most closely with Mu,
I believe, and there's also something going on in the Pacific where Mu sunk and was part of a It was the very, very South Pacific and still exists under the water.
And that the U.S. military, the Navy, has been going down there and is still fighting these beings that are not happy with Fukushima and the destruction of their habitat and various other wars that are going on under the sea that we're not even aware of.
Well, if it's going on from under the sea, and the fact that Enki is the Lord of the Seas, they're probably somehow affiliated in some way, shape, or form.
Maybe so.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so this has been fabulous, just listening to you go kind of all over the map, but bring things together in a very concise way at the same time.
Yeah.
I want to thank you very much for being on the show.
I think, you know, we didn't have a lot of time for questions, but is there a place where people can reach you so that they can write to you and ask you questions and read your books, etc.?
Yeah, if you go to my website, GeraldClark77.com, I have links to my Facebook and my YouTube channel, which is Gerald Clark.
That's the best way.
If you have my book, my email address is in the back of it.
I usually reserve that for people.
I'm pretty good about talking to all the people that contact me through Facebook and email.
I just get scads.
I can't usually write a whole page, but I might be able to give everybody just a little bit to stay in connection with these people that are Having their God spell broken, realizing they've been lied to their whole life, and then trying to figure out what do I do with my life now so that I can be more effective and achieve my goals and my dreams.
It's happening at a time when we're facing war and economic disaster.
There's a lot of things vying from people's attentions right now.
I'm honored that any of them take the time to communicate with me and let me know where they are in their path.
If I can have anything to do to facilitate it, That's all I can do.
Okay, great.
Well, again, thank you, Gerald, very much.
And if we can have you back on the show and touch on other books, Mercury Rising, etc., let's do that in the near future.
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