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April 2, 2016 - Project Camelot

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SEAN DAVID MORTON VS EVIL EMPIRE FULL VERSION

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	Thank you.
	Hi, everyone. everyone.
	This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm going to be doing a show tonight with Sean David Morton, and this will be about his court case as much as he is allowed to talk.
	So, Sean, welcome to the show.
	Thank you, dear.
	Thanks for having me.
	And Sean David Morton is a very well-known talk show host.
	He has his own Strange Universe radio show, and it's one of the most highly rated alternative radio shows out there, from what I understand.
	And he's on Revolution Radio.
	And we want to say that, actually, he's probably on there because of me, but that's...
	That's because I actually got him back into radio at a certain point.
	That was back when we were with AFR, I guess, right?
	That's right.
	And so we just kind of followed each other around from radio show to radio show format.
	And so I'm very happy at the success that he's had.
	And I want to say that also he's let me know that he has...
	Just finished Sands of Time 3, which is something we planned to do a show about a couple months ago, and then actually it wasn't released.
	So are you saying it's actually released now, Sean?
	No, I just finished writing it.
	So I finished writing it.
	And actually, it's been great because part of this was we put a...
	We still have it up.
	We had a GoFundMe campaign because there were certain things I needed.
	I still needed an editor.
	I still need graphics.
	So if people want to go to the Strange Universe Radio website and help us out with the GoFundMe campaign there because I still have to pay the artist for the cover and an editor and then get the books published.
	So we're still doing a bit of a GoFundMe thing to...
	Basically just allow me to have the time set aside to not do other things for a while and finally finish the book.
	It's a little more difficult, this book, because it is based on the manuscripts of a gentleman who was one of the top players in the whole secret government for a long time.
	And he...
	Well, he moved on, you know, whatever that meant.
	And I got a bunch of these journals from a bunch of scary lawyers in Century City as part of a probate of his estate.
	But I was never told that he died.
	I was always told that he, quote, moved on.
	So the first two books...
	We're lifted directly basically from the journals with just some kind of journalistic and artistic and creative stuff sort of thrown in.
	The third book I decided to write in first person.
	I'm sorry, not in first person, but in third person.
	So I could actually use a lot of the accumulated documents that actually come with it.
	A lot of things about the actual nature of time travel, where things came from, from Hans Kammler and the Nazi bell.
	I threw in some history about that.
	But the book is called The Isomer Protocol.
	And while Dr.
	Ted Humphrey, who's the lead character in the book, was...
	Directly after the Dulce Wars, he got kicked out of this organization called The Group.
	And the head of the group actually entered into a treaty that had to do with limiting humans actually going out into space and the solar system.
	Apparently a gang called the Andromedan Council decided that humanity had to be contained for a period of time.
	And so this has to do with the ending of the...
	ISOMER actually stands for the Isolation Isolation Memorandum Protocols, which became known as the Isomer Protocol Treaty, which was supposedly to limit Earth to not going out anywhere beyond, nothing manned, actually, out beyond our moon without some kind of repercussions.
	But we started doing that anyway, actually, and then kind of got caught doing it.
	They sent a force here to stop us.
	Which the book is about, you know, what happens.
	I don't want to blow it too much, but exactly what happens and how this force took notice of us and how we'd actually scuttled a...
	We salvaged a ship that had crashed on Mars and I think it's fantastic so far.
	I mean, the other two books have gotten five-star ratings on Amazon, and we have a huge following of them, and we're working with the film production company, too.
	You know, it's under consideration right now by a huge Chinese company that just bought Legendary Entertainment.
	So of all the projects that the production company I was working with pitched, Sands of Time was the one that they wanted.
	So it's all good.
	It's all great, and it's a happy day, and it's great to talk to you on a day like this because, as I said, I've finished the book.
	So yay.
	So there's that.
	And we'll talk about the other stuff as well and how we did nothing wrong.
	Let me point out, too, the other stuff.
	I know you reported on all this, and my...
	My interactions with the evil empire.
	I'm just telling you, Carrie, it's very difficult being Han Solo and running from the evil empire and breaking their rules or what they see.
	But again, nobody did anything wrong.
	And even though you reported on it, a lot of people on the internet reported on it, whatever else, but no one besides you, by the way, has ever once And this has to go with this current tangle with these guys, with what was going on with the Security Exchange Commission, which was also completely ridiculous.
	But no one's ever asked me my side of the story.
	Not once.
	Not ever.
	No one's ever called me on the phone.
	No press media.
	Nobody ever has said, hey, John, what's your side of the story?
	Is there another side of the story to this?
	So, I just want to say that you're the first person that's actually ever said, hey, Sean, why don't you tell us your side of the story?
	Yeah, I mean, I invited you right away on my show, the minute I heard about this.
	I know, I heard that.
	I was excited to think about it.
	We're kind of in shock.
	And I want to say, though, I also defended you in writing on my website on that article.
	Yes, I know.
	Thank you very much.
	I have to say that I have known Sean for a very long time.
	And I have one of his cats, as many people will know.
	And you often hear my cat in the background.
	He's very talkative during shows.
	He's also great, too.
	Tallie.
	And so I just want to say that, you know, Sean, contrary to popular belief in some corners, is not a greedy person.
	And Sean and Melissa are both very good friends.
	And I have to say that they have good hearts and they have humanity's interests also.
	At heart.
	And so what he is involved in is something that Jordan Maxwell has been involved in and talked a lot about.
	And there have been other people around very interested in what is by some called the sovereign movement.
	Eh, eh, no.
	Okay, well, whatever.
	I'm not a sovereign citizen.
	I keep trying to tell people there's no such thing.
	Please, don't get me put on an FBI watch list as a terrorist or anything.
	Well, okay.
	Let me just focus on that.
	That's very dangerous, what you just did.
	Why?
	Because the number one terror group, according to the FBI, claiming that they've killed 53 agents and all this other stuff are what they call sovereign citizens.
	There's no really such thing as a sovereign citizen.
	We are...
	We're de jure state citizens.
	All we're trying to do is establish ourselves as outside at the same status that everybody had before the Civil War.
	When they passed the 14th Amendment, the 14th Amendment was only for disenfranchised Negro slaves in 1866 because they had no country.
	The states weren't going to give them rights, and therefore the United States Incorporated, if you will, Washington, D.C., created a second class of citizen known as a federal citizen or a U.S. citizen.
	So we are what we call du jour state nationals.
	So I'm a du jour state Californian, actually.
	And there's a whole thing to declaring your status to that because if you're a du jour Californian, you now come under the protection of the Constitution of your state and the organic Constitution of 1789 or 1787 actually before it was all written up.
	But that's very important.
	It's a very important point legally to understand because there's two sets.
	The organic Constitution of the United States applies to those who are technically American nationals and de jure state citizens.
	There's really no such thing as a sovereign citizen.
	But when you become a, quote, U.S. citizen, and this is what people don't understand, how disenfranchised they become.
	If everybody remembers that Abraham Lincoln kept saying that we must enfranchise the disenfranchised Negro slaves.
	He kept saying that.
	And the whole point of being enfranchised by these people is you become a franchisee of the federal government.
	You, in essence, become their slave.
	And now, instead of you coming under the Constitution, now you come under the United States Code.
	And the United States Code is thousands of pages.
	I mean, the U.S. Constitution is approximately 4,500 words or so.
	As opposed to the U.S. Code, which goes on and on and on and on, which Congress can change every day if they want.
	And there's a gentleman that wrote a book called Three Felonies a Day, that just walking around without knowing it, you're committing three federal crimes every day.
	And the majority of these federal crimes, of which they've passed another almost 5,000 laws in just the last five years, the majority of these...
	You could actually commit without even knowing you're committing the crime, as an example, which is what's happened in our case, because everything we did was absolutely legal, was their forms, was their format, was written up by CPAs and whatever else.
	I'll just tell you...
	Let's go back, just to see the oppression.
	Okay, just let me clarify one thing, though, because when I say sovereign, I'm talking about a United States, not just United States, but I'm talking the whole planet.
	In other words, we should be sovereign entities, and we should not be subject to invasion and takeover and so on, and that we actually own the earth by right of living on it.
	But go ahead.
	That's right.
	I'm just saying that I just have to take umbrage with that because, again, it's not really a proper term.
	I appreciate that.
	The Queen of England.
	The Queen of England is sovereign because she owns all the guns and all the land and there's only one sovereign.
	Yeah, but that's her dream.
	Well, okay, go ahead.
	And I'm saying you're absolutely right.
	It has to do with being we the people as the sovereign people, if you will.
	It does have to do with our ability to basically own guns, own land, do the things that a, quote, sovereign would do.
	And have free access to water, you know, the rights to live.
	It's more of a deep philosophical notion than a legal term, but I don't know what they've distorted it into, and I appreciate the distinction that you're trying to make.
	So let's get into your case and start at the beginning in whatever way you'd like.
	Okay, so let's go back a ways because there's sort of two things that are complete misnomers out there.
	Let's go back to our lawsuit with our buddies at the Security and Exchange Commission.
	Because what happened was, this was back in 2004, 2005 or so.
	I mean, this is now 10, 11 years ago.
	And it's still one of those things that's just, you know, thanks to our mutual friend, George Norrie, who decided to go on the air and claimed that I was indicted by the Secure and Exchange Commission, which is completely untrue.
	It was a civil case.
	I mean, that's the kind of thing that these jackasses of Wikipedia and all these other people say that we were somehow indicted by the SEC, which is a complete lie.
	They wanted to come up with a civil case that was completely meritless, I might add.
	And had I had...
	$50,000 to $75,000 to fight it, we would have gotten the entire thing kicked and been completely exonerated out of all of that.
	But let me just tell you what went down.
	We were doing foreign exchange.
	By the way, foreign exchange is not regulated by the SEC. When you're dealing with money, it's not a stock.
	It's not a bond.
	It's not a security.
	It's not something that the SEC even regulates.
	And Congress in 2009 specifically said that the SEC was not allowed to regulate foreign exchange.
	So, therefore, I had a group of about 30 people that we were doing this with.
	It was a very small, small club of personal friends that we were doing this with.
	And so sometime in, I think, June or July of like 2000, I'm not even sure when it was, I think 2006 or something, I mentioned it on Coast to Coast.
	And I only mentioned it.
	I didn't say, come invest.
	I didn't say, come on down.
	I didn't give a number.
	I didn't say to people, you know, please join our club.
	Nothing like that.
	The only reason I mentioned what we were doing at the time was because I pointed out that the global markets were being manipulated and that something really bad was coming, that we should have had A massive crash in 2006, and the only thing that stopped it was that the Federal Reserve, in March of 2006, decided that they were going to take the Federal Reserve note economically off the M3 index.
	Now, what that meant was And I'm sorry that this is going to get technical, legal stuff and economics and all that stuff.
	No, it's good.
	It's good.
	People need to learn.
	What it meant was the M3 index marked how many Federal Reserve notes.
	Remember, it's not money.
	The Federal Reserve note is used as money, but it's not U.S. currency.
	We do not have U.S. currency anymore.
	And the last time we actually had notes that were actually printed by the Treasury was when John F. Kennedy, on October 1st of 1963, We're good to go.
	It's actually printed by the Treasury, because Tannity said, why do we have to print money and then borrow it from the Federal Reserve?
	Why are we borrowing our own money?
	And he gave a famous speech at Columbia on October 10th of 1963, where he talked about the gnomes of Zurich being the bankers controlling the world.
	And he also said in that speech, if the American people Were to be made aware of the forces aligned against them, surely they would rise up in revolt.
	And of course, November 22nd, they blew his brains out in broad daylight.
	And again, I can tell you, all these people have all these theories about the Kennedy assassination.
	Was it the mafia?
	Was it the Cubans?
	It was the banks.
	It was the banks.
	And the Secret Service that was protecting him They're employed by the Treasury, which is the banks.
	And that's the reason why they all stood behind the limousine and let him go into the kill zone and get his brains blown out.
	Because when you mess with the dough, you gots to go.
	So moving forward here.
	So what happened was that because I opened my big mouth on Coast to Coast, and I just talked about how we were having the success with it.
	People just started knocking my treehouse down because they all wanted in.
	And we had $300,000 of our own money invested.
	And we put together, I think about, of the group of people that came in, there was a group of about, I think it was about $200,000.
	It was a little over $200,000.
	We had $529,000 total for the entire spread out over three or four different businesses.
	And we turned that into, and this is for all the people out there, this is for all the smear mongers, this is for all these jackasses.
	Here's a fact.
	The fact was we turned that into $5.9 million.
	$5.9 million.
	And then came the trader.
	And by the way, none of this was my idea.
	There was a guy by the name of Darrell Weber who approached me up in Canada and said, can you use remote viewing?
	And can you use your, you know, kind of cartomancy skills on charts or whatever else to predict these various markets?
	And I said, I'll give it a try.
	It was his idea.
	He's the one that set it up.
	He's the one that wanted to do it.
	He's all in Wisconsin doing the trades.
	So what happens is that we turn this, you know, 500 and change into about 5.9 million bucks.
	Then I tell him in advance, and this is, I'm on the radio talking about this, saying that the U.S. dollar is going to tank That the euro was going to go, I think I predicted the euro to go to $1.52, and the euro went to a high of $1.48, and that the U.S. dollar was just basically going to just slide down a hole, and that the U.S. dollar would reach parity with the Australian dollar and the Canadian dollar.
	Well, my trader, you know, because he was the one responsible for the trades, I completely separated myself altogether from having anything to do with the financial part of it because if I got into what the numbers were every day, it completely short circuits.
	Whenever you get the base root chakra involved, you get, you know, you get green, you get, you know, you get all kinds of crazy things going on as to, you know, you get fear.
	But when you try to just keep yourself away from it, that's why with remote viewers, Especially when we're doing roulette wheels and whatever else, you never let the viewers handle the money.
	You never let the viewers make the bets.
	You always have a monitor who does all this stuff for you.
	But then my trader decided, when I told him what the dollar was going to go to, his response to that was, you're talking about the United States with a GDP of $16 trillion and U.S. dollars being worth as much as Canada is.
	in Australia that have a combined population of about 60 million people and he said what you're telling me is insane.
	It's insane.
	And he decided to do exactly the opposite of everything I told him to do, claiming that it would have been fiscally irresponsible of him to take my advice, which was what he was putting the entire thing to do.
	So we had other people putting money in who were saying, yes, I agree with you, Sean, thank you very much.
	And then when everything that I had said on the radio publicly and everybody on the inside happened, people came to me saying, why aren't we rich?
	Where's our money?
	And Daryl Weber had done the opposite of everything I told him to do.
	And by the way, he testified in court, actually signed a court document that said, I'm responsible for this.
	I did the opposite of what Sean told me to do.
	I'm sorry.
	And this was in one of these, you know, we had two ridiculous lawsuits that were going on with us.
	And the two lawsuits were a really crazy woman in New York who had invested about $20,000 in About a month before this meltdown happened.
	It all happened on Thanksgiving Day, actually, I think of 2006.
	It was called the Black Thursday.
	Because all these countries, when we were closed for business, all these countries attacked our currency.
	And that's when the dollar went into a meltdown and the euro went to a new high.
	So this crazy woman in New York comes in for $20,000.
	She comes to an expo and then threatens me.
	This lady was on the TV and she was like, Oh, he's such a mean man.
	He stole my money.
	This woman came to me and said...
	You're going to give me all my money back.
	You're going to give me a mulligan, and I want you to give me my money back, or I will lie, I will cheat, I will steal, I will go to the SEC, I'll go on the TV, etc., etc.
	And I said, so let me get this straight.
	You're asking me to steal from other people so that you can get a refund.
	Even though I gave you paperwork that said, look, there's no guarantees here.
	This is like gunslinging.
	Past performance is no aspect of the future.
	And she said yes.
	And also, by the way, attacked my wife.
	Had to be actually frog marshaled out of the expo after having my wife by the throat.
	And I told her, I said, even then, I said, here's what's left in your account.
	You have X amount of dollars left in your account.
	It was like $2,700.
	And I'll write you a check now for what's left in your account, or we can leave it in and see if we can make it back.
	She took the check, cashed the check, then got up on the TV, talking about what a bad guy was, and then sued us, and we beat her.
	The entire case was dismissed, and she was almost charged for perjury because she got up on the stand and just lied about a bunch of things.
	So that was that case that went.
	And then in another case in Washington, there was a settlement agreement where the trader offered to reimburse this guy up in Washington and actually wrote in a settlement agreement that Melissa and I had nothing to do with anything, that Weber took all the blame for all this thing. there was a settlement agreement where the trader offered to So here comes the SEC.
	And the SEC comes at us.
	And the whole reason for this whole deal, I swear on a stack of Bibles, they come out here and they're really freaks.
	I mean, one guy looks like Gollum of the Jufro, and the other guy looks like the Jaime robot from Get Smart.
	I mean, it's like he was wearing makeup and hair plugs.
	It was really strange.
	And they throw a bunch of papers at us, and this is what their investigation was based on.
	They had apparently issued a blanket subpoena for Bank of America For the various names of the companies, the LLCs that we'd set up.
	And they came at us and they threw this paperwork at us and said, where are you hiding?
	Six and a half million dollars.
	And we're like, what?
	We're broke.
	We got nothing left.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	And the attorney took a look at it.
	And he said, excuse us for a second, took us out of the hallway and explained what was going on.
	Then came back in and said, do you understand that when you own an LLC that they do a name search that's only for the state?
	And they were like, once again, these guys were with the SEC, and they're really stupid.
	And they just go, uh, no.
	And he says, do you understand that you can have 50 different companies?
	You can have Carrie Cassidy's gift shop, as an example.
	And you can have 50 of those in 50 states, all owned by somebody different named Carrie Cassidy.
	And they don't do a search outside the state.
	So you can have 50 companies with 50 names in 50 states, all completely separate.
	So, by mistake, they had actually subpoenaed a company called 27 Investments, which was a real estate holding company in Florida that owned apartment buildings that had nothing to do with us.
	Nothing.
	And when they were shown this, and they were like, uh, oh, sorry.
	So then what they came at us with, the only thing they could do, because we weren't, you know, once again, they don't regulate foreign exchange.
	So here's what they did.
	They said, you claim to be psychic.
	Being psychic is impossible.
	Therefore, we're charging you with fraud.
	Civilly, mind you.
	Civilly.
	Not criminal fraud.
	We're charging you with fraud.
	That was it.
	From a statement from an information flyer that said...
	I've been very good at predicting the stock market.
	So their entire research was basically done by these internet smear dogs who have said, well, Sean said that the stock market was going to go to this on this particular day, and it didn't.
	Well, it eventually went to that like a couple of weeks later, but it didn't go on the day.
	So, I mean, that's the level of smear, which is did not kind of thing.
	I mean, you know, I remember back in the 80s, back in the 90s, When I was telling Arbel that it was a big deal when the market was going to go to $4,000, then $5,000, then $8,000, then $10,000, then $18,000.
	And I've been the guy predicting this all the way along, saying that the markets are going to go up as Wall Street was getting worse.
	So we couldn't fight it, and we were denied discovery, we were denied interrogatories, we were denied everything, but my whole point of this entire deal was, we're not in the jurisdiction of the Southern District of New York, we didn't do anything there, and we fought the whole thing on jurisdiction.
	So here's what happened, and this is what the big misnomer of all this is.
	We said, because there's a way to do this to remove the controversy.
	You remove controversy in court cases by saying, because there isn't any money, you can't be forced to pay anything.
	Under Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution, only gold and silver is money.
	Therefore, no court, and this is a court case called Hagar v.
	Reclamation District, but under Hagar v.
	Reclamation District, no public exaction.
	Can be forced by a court to be paid in Federal Reserve notes, because Federal Reserve notes are private.
	And again, they're not on the public side.
	Therefore, because there is no public money, how are you supposed to pay public debts?
	Now, you can agree a court can bully you into using Federal Reserve notes, but no judge from the bench can order you, without being in violation of both the U.S. and the state constitution, to pay in Federal Reserve notes.
	And I've done this a couple of times, or it was a traffic thing or something, where I've said to the judge, Will you take privately printed irredeemable promissory notes?
	And he said, no, that's ridiculous.
	We're not going to take that.
	And I was like, well, and I pulled some Andrew Jackson's on my wallet.
	And I said, so you don't take these?
	And he goes, no, we take those.
	And I said, well, they're privately printed by a company called the Federal Reserve, where we agreed.
	The Federal Reserve is private.
	He said, yes.
	And I said, we also agreed that they're not redeemable in gold and silver under the Constitution, right?
	Well, no.
	And I said, and they're a promise to pay at some point in the future, aren't they, between the treasurer and the secretary of the treasurer?
	And in that particular case, the judge said, well, you go sit in the corner and I'll deal with you later.
	And I had to sit there for like three hours and watch him, you know, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, until he finally came out when nobody was in the courtroom and said, I'm waiving all these traffic things and, you know, go away and never come back to my courtroom again.
	So in the SEC, we just said, how much do you want?
	We'll write you a bond to pay for it.
	And so the entire case, this is what Judge Catherine Forrest did, did this whole thing where she awarded, she said, the SEC, you can have this.
	And by the way, at the very end, the SEC threw in the six and a half million bucks at the end as part of the fine, just because they could, just because of all this crap that they found in Florida that wasn't us.
	So at the end of the day, the judge then said, the very last line was, that this judgment shall not be transferred outside the Southern District of New York.
	That's it, which means we won On jurisdiction, and the entire case might as well have happened on the moon.
	And as it was, we actually wrote them a non-negotiable bond to pay off the, we wrote them a bond for like $50 million or something, because there isn't any money.
	There isn't any money on the public side.
	Now, with these, and I can't, I don't even know how to explain it.
	With these IRS guys, seven years ago, seven years ago, My wife and I, actually, because we were dealing with all these millions of dollars in the accounts, we had to report all this.
	So what we did is that we filed, and here's what the bank's duty.
	What the banks do, and this is a very thumbnail, this is not to be used as any, it's a very thumbnail description of it because it's far more complicated than this.
	Every time you put a dollar into a bank, the bank fractionalizes that money.
	Now some people say they fractionalize it ten times, but I think it's worse than that.
	If a bank only has to have, if a bank claims they have a billion dollars in assets, The bank only has to have a penny now, apparently, of the actual assets they claim to have.
	So theoretically, every dollar that you put in a bank is fractionalized, I think, 99 times.
	Other people say it's 10 times.
	Bottom line is, the minute you put money in the bank, they fractionalize it when you put it in, they fractionalize it when you take it out, they fractionalize it when you use a credit card, they fractionalize it when they use a debit card.
	So how these banks go broke Fractualizing all this money that's coming and going.
	And here's what they do at the end of the day.
	At the end of the year, for all the money that you put in and taken out and whatever else, the bank on your behalf, because they don't have to tell you this, the bank on your behalf files what they call a 1099-A, which stands for abandoned.
	Because you have all this money coming to you, but it's abandoned.
	Because you have not laid claim to it, because you haven't filed the proper forms.
	Therefore, and then what you do, is that because we were acting as a bank at that time, and because we were dealing with millions of dollars, because people were putting money in, taking money out, doing whatever else, you then file what's called a 1099 OID, which is an original issue discount.
	Now, some people say, well, only banks can file that.
	Well, that's not true.
	Theoretically, anybody can act as a bank.
	I can give you $100, and you can put it on deposit, you can charge me interest, you can do whatever, but everybody can be a bank.
	And by the way, you're actually operating as an authorized representative for the bank because you theoretically are an employee of the bank as well.
	Because if you look at any bank check, and this is where it gets really weird, you have to look at it with like a microscope or a really good magnifying glass, because every bank check you sign It has what you think is a solid line where you sign your name, but it actually says authorized representative in a super, super small, tiny script.
	It says authorized representative, which in essence makes you an employee of the bank.
	Now, I can't explain the entire process to you, but...
	At the end of the year, you then claim this.
	You enter into it and file a 1099A saying it's not a bandit.
	Then you file a 1099 OID, and the OID stands for Original Issue Discount.
	The reason for that is because you're the one that's putting the original money into the bank, which means you're the original issuer, and then the bank fractionalizes it out, which means that you, in essence, can claim the money that you put in the bank because the bank has actually taken it out and fractionalized it and done whatever it is they've done.
	So, my wife didn't even get paid, actually, from the 1099.
	We put all this together.
	My wife made nothing off this.
	It didn't get paid at all.
	But I got a refund for whatever reason.
	Now, this was a TurboTax, by the way.
	You could buy TurboTax at the time, the public version of TurboTax, up until, I think, 2011.
	And all these forms and everything to fill them out was in TurboTax.
	And we did this with the CPA, and the CPA approved the forms that we submitted, and I got a return.
	Well, not only did I get a return, but I also got letters from three different IRS offices from Fresno, Austin, and Philadelphia.
	That said, we owe you more money.
	We've adjusted all of this stuff.
	And I have all the paperwork from them that says we owe you $4.2 million off of all this.
	And by the way, we also put in the very top tax rate, which I think was 38%, for the IRS to keep or whatever it is they were going to do.
	So they sent me a check, actually, for the first amount for one year, I think for like 2008.
	United States Treasury.
	I'm like, fine, cool.
	So we took the money, put it on deposit, and then we were putting some businesses together.
	We were trying to refund some people, doing all these kind of things.
	Six months later, The Internal Revenue Service then just throws an open envelope.
	Now, let me remind everybody here.
	The Internal Revenue Service is a private company.
	They are a private trust, and they operate out of something called Trust 62 in Puerto Rico.
	They're an offshore corporation that acts as a...
	And they are not the government, nor are they the police force for the Treasury.
	If the Treasury was going to come after you, they would send the Secret Service, because the Secret Service are the police force for the Treasury.
	Not the Internal Revenue Service.
	They are a private collection agency under Title 16.
	There's another thing inside the Treasury, which is actually called the Internal Revenue, which does come under Title 26.
	So, again, they threw stuff in their door and went and cleaned out my wife's bank account.
	They didn't even get any money, and they cleaned out about $6,000 out of her account.
	Well, while we're trying to deal with these guys, we're just writing letters to them saying, well, what do you want us to do?
	What's the deal?
	Why are you attacking us?
	What have we done that's illegal?
	We filled out your forms.
	They were in TurboTax.
	We had a CPA do this.
	And they're like, well, your refund was erroneous.
	Not illegal.
	Not unlawful.
	Erroneous.
	Using their forms.
	And I just wrote the letter saying, well, show me how it's erroneous or anything that I've done wrong, and I'd be happy to see if I could get you the money back, which all then became a number of fines and notices of lien.
	The IRS, because they don't go through the judicial system, because they do not use the courts, simply file what they call a notice of lien.
	It's not a lien.
	It's like I'm holding out my fist and I'm going to punch you in the face.
	I'm noticing I'm going to punch you in the face.
	But none of it's actually lawful or legal.
	They use administrative processes.
	By the way, they've got tax court.
	And tax court is under the executive branch.
	Tax court, it's all under the executive.
	It's not under the judicial at all.
	So nothing that happens in tax court is actually real.
	It's just all a whole administrative process of all this.
	And by the way, in the terror that the IRS was committing along with calling all my friends and all my family and my landlord and whatever else, but there was a company that you and I have a mutual friend who just put something on Facebook that said that we might have been doing a movie with this company or we may have some sort of development deal or whatever. but there was a company that you and I have And they went to the company that had nothing to do with me.
	They went to this company and they stole $57,000 out of the bank account of someone that had nothing to do with us.
	I mean, we knew the guy that owned the company, but just because this guy put something up on Facebook and they checked it, which by the way...
	All you people out there putting all your stuff on Facebook, you understand that the government looks at all that.
	You understand that they track you and they follow you with Facebook and Twitter and Google and God knows whatever else.
	But they stole $57,000 out of this man's account for a film company, which, again, had nothing to do with me.
	And I came to him and said, we'll file an 843 or whatever to get the money back.
	And he was like, I don't know why he didn't do it.
	But this was seven years ago.
	Seven years ago.
	And this is what they're now, seven years later, coming after us for.
	There's that.
	The other part of this, and this just gets to the point where it's so ridiculous, We were doing non-negotiable monetary instruments.
	We were helping people that were trying to pay off debt.
	We're trying to pay off houses, mortgages, whatever else.
	Now, the non-negotiable monetary instruments were written by a JD, a Juris Doctorate, a lawyer.
	And every single one of them, what we were doing is that we told people in everything that we were doing, we said, number one, we cannot guarantee that this is going to work.
	That's number one.
	Number two, we can't get the government or the courts to obey the law.
	Number three, if anybody that we're sending these non-negotiable instruments to, if anyone returns them, we will refund your money, no questions asked.
	We just had a suggested donation that was varied on what people could afford.
	And, you know, to pay for our time for putting these together.
	But what's done is, is that the non-negotiable monetary instrument is a surety bond.
	You have three people who sign it.
	Everyone does have an account.
	Everybody that doesn't think they work for the federal government, you all work for the federal government.
	You all have a social security number, which is a QCIP number because it's nine digits.
	And on the private side...
	It's with the dashes, and on the public side, it's without dashes.
	And all of you, like it or not, all have accounts based on your Social Security at the Commerce Department, because the Commerce Department is who issues their Social Security card.
	Not the SSA, not the Social Security Administration, but the Commerce Department.
	And all of this traces back, and we can do all this back to the birth certificate, but that's another thing.
	Non-negotiable monetary instruments are completely worthless to anyone that does not have access to the Federal Reserve window, that cannot take that instrument and put it on deposit to borrow money against, which is what they do.
	So, in the course of this, and we're talking about the course of three years, I think we wrote, I think we did maybe 20 bonds.
	And that's, I mean, nothing.
	It wasn't, you know, it wasn't like we're, every now and then, a couple of months would go by, and somebody would come in and say, could you help me with Credit card or student loan or, you know, a mortgage.
	And we're like, okay, so, you know, we're just trying to help people that, you know, trying to help people out.
	So when we put the non-negotiable money, as a matter of fact, I just had a paralegal call the student loan.
	She had student loans through, I think, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, somebody like that.
	Called them and said, will you take a bond?
	Will you take a non-negotiable instrument?
	And she said, is it a surety bond?
	And the woman said yes.
	The paralegal said yes.
	And she said, is it the one with the three signatures that comes with the three notices?
	And she said yes.
	And she goes, yeah, we take those.
	Those are fine.
	Now, all I can tell you is that the government has just tossed this thing.
	I mean, it's such an air ball.
	They've just thrown these things up in the air.
	And we were in court last Wednesday.
	And the federal judge asked this woman, who lost her mind, he said, could you explain this case to me?
	And she started saying, well, he made a false presentment to the government because he wrote us a check, a fraudulent check.
	And the judge said, well, how is it fraudulent?
	He says, well, it looked like a check and it was on check paper.
	He says, was it drawn in a bank where there wasn't funds or anything?
	Well, no.
	So he just, what, you're just saying that he made this up and submitted it to you?
	And they said, well, yes.
	And he said, well, it sounds more like a prank.
	It sounds like he was, like, pranking you or something.
	It doesn't sound like something we should be in federal court charging people with.
	And then she keeps talking.
	And the judge, I swear on the Bible, the judge goes, you know, I don't understand the words coming out of your mouth.
	And you can't even explain to me what this case is about.
	And if this is how this prosecution is going to go, you've got problems, is what he said.
	And by the way, they, you know, and again, all of this with the Internal Revenue Service, again, they are not a law enforcement agency.
	So what we're doing is, you know, this is how bad it got.
	I mean, last September, they busted into our house with guns in our faces.
	I mean, I was woken up with an M-16 in my face by a jackbooted thug with a helmet and a flashlight in my face.
	They beat up my wife when they came in here because she had just had knee surgery, couldn't get out of bed.
	And these thugs dragged her screaming out of bed through her wheelchair across the room when they actually came in her house.
	And I kept saying, where's the marshal?
	Where's the sheriff?
	Show me a policeman.
	Show me anybody that's actually enforcing this ridiculous warrant.
	And they're like, oh, we're here to enforce a warrant.
	And again, you can't do that.
	You can't enforce warrants without a proper law enforcement agent there.
	And it just goes on from there.
	So now they're trying to say that seven years ago, we didn't like the actual legal paperwork that you filed.
	And by the way, there was a very famous case in Los Angeles of an accountant.
	Her name was Jacqueline...
	Coelho.
	I can't pronounce her name.
	Coelho, I think is what it was.
	And she was doing 1099 OIDs for people.
	And the IRS sued her, once again, civilly, because they wanted an injunction to make her stop.
	Again, Carrie, their paperwork, their stuff.
	And people just figured out how to file it.
	And they were getting returns.
	And then the IRS was suing people for filing paperwork, which was in TurboTax up until 2011.
	And then they took the 1099 OIDs and the 1099As out of TurboTax.
	And now, only if you're a licensed CPA and you pay like $500 for the professional program, only licensed CPAs actually now get the 1099As and the 1099 OIDs.
	But the rest of it is, and again, had we been submitting supposedly fraudulent monetary instruments, then we would have got a knock on our door from the Secret Service.
	And by the way, we've taken this to a Secret Service agent, former Secret Service agent under Reagan, who says, this is not fraudulent.
	This is legitimate.
	Redemption does happen.
	This is not a false presentment to the United States, because the biggest thing is, When we sent the non-negotiable instruments to a bank or a credit card agency or what have you, it came with a legal letter of advice that said, if there's anything wrong with this, can you please have your legal department write us a letter and tell us what's wrong with it?
	Also, it came with a self-addressed stamped envelope that said, if there's anything wrong with this bond or it's deficient in any way, just tear it out, put it back in the envelope, and send it back to us.
	When you go into the Treasury, the Secret Service Handbook under Alpha 100, The Secret Service says, and they were dealing with something called site drafts at that time, which are Kind of bogus.
	They say if you receive any of these, that the instrument must be dishonored and returned within 30 days.
	We've actually, when the instruments have gone to these banks and credit card companies, we've contacted the office of the comptroller of the currency to say what happened to these bonds.
	And what Obama did is he set up another agency to basically pull the teeth of the OCC so that they can't investigate anything because they contacted this other agency, they contacted the bank, The bank just writes up some BS letter back to this.
	And now we've been through, with the bonds, mind you, with the monetary instruments, we have now been through five court cases.
	And in these five court cases, not once, Has the bank or American Express or the mortgage company agreed ever to actually just return the monetary instrument, just return the bond?
	Because what they do, remember, they're worthless to anybody who doesn't access the Federal Reserve window.
	They take it, they take it to the Federal Reserve window, they lodge it, and they put it on deposit to borrow money against.
	That's what they're for on the public side.
	And so...
	They hated the fact that we had found a system that was actually working and that the banks and the credit card agencies...
	As a matter of fact, we're in a lawsuit right now.
	A friend of mine did a bond for a friend with American Express.
	We're in this lawsuit with American Express and their attorneys...
	Again, we kept subpoenaing them to simply produce the bond.
	And the three things in any of these cases, if you're in this, is number one, to produce the original wedding signature monetary instrument, return it, Number two, produce the original promissory note that your mortgage or the credit is based on, which they will never do.
	And number three, produce your books to show that the bond, because we contend that the bond's been lodged and it's being used as credit, so therefore produce your books.
	Well, with American Express, the attorneys in American Express, when my guy said, we'll come to your office, we'll bring a lawyer, we'll do whatever, you can show it to us, we don't have to touch it, you can put it under glass, you can do whatever, just to show us you still have it.
	And the attorneys for American Express literally said, F you, and hung up the phone to my guy.
	And in not one case, and here's what the banks are doing now, the banks are taking all the original promissory notes, they're making three certified copies, and they're destroying them, they're shredding them, so that they don't have to produce them in court.
	And there's just been a huge court case for people out there.
	There's been a huge court case called Ivanova versus New Century Mortgage.
	It just came down from the California Supreme Court February 15th.
	And this is ginormous for people that have lost their homes or houses or mortgages or whatever.
	Because what it says is it mimics a case in Kansas that was about five or six years ago where there's a company called MERS, which is the Mortgage Electronic Mortgage Registration service.
	And they have about 60 million registered mortgages.
	Well, what MERS was doing is they would just register something for Bank of America, and then just because they had the paperwork, they would foreclose on a property they wanted just using the administrative process.
	Even though they have no skin in the game, all they were doing was registering and lodging the promissory notes.
	And the Kansas Supreme Court said, you can't do this.
	This is criminal enterprise because you have no skin in the game.
	You didn't loan any money in the first place.
	And by the way, none of these banks actually loan any money because when you go in, they, when you sign the dotted line, they borrow against your, what they call sweat equity.
	And they take that signature and your Social Security number to the Federal Reserve window, and the Federal Reserve window extends them your credit, which they owe you anyway.
	And the bank then gives you your money.
	They basically chop off your arm and feed you your fingers, and then you're happy about it.
	And by the way, as you're walking out the door, they say, oh, we're coming for your leg next.
	And you go, oh, gee, thanks.
	Aren't you guys great?
	So the government is mad because.
	And even though they're saying that we've made false presentments to the government, we never submitted anything to the government.
	Not ever.
	We submitted them to banks, mortgage companies, and credit card companies.
	Once again, the grand total of like 20 of these things, I think, that we did over the course of like three years.
	And in every single case, they've refused to return them.
	I mean, after three notices or an order you send in, the first thing you send is the bond itself.
	It comes with a letter of legal advice.
	It comes with a self-addressed stamp envelope that says, if there's anything wrong with this...
	In the memorandum of points of understanding, here's all the law that's applicable to it, here's how it works, and send it back if you don't like it.
	Then, my wife is a notary, then does a notice of fault, which is, okay, you've taken it, it's been 30 days, what are you going to do?
	That's a notice of fault opportunity to cure with anybody.
	You say, okay, you've taken...
	The bond, there's a court of satisfaction going on here.
	Are you going to give it back or what?
	Then you do a notice of default, and then the third notice, which is sent after 90 days, is a notice of default and dishonor, saying we're giving you one last chance to send the bond back for whatever reason.
	If not, then the assumption shall be taken through your tacit acquiescence that the bond is good and we don't have any problems.
	This is what the government is trying to throw us in jail over.
	Okay, now, Sean, let me ask you.
	Since they never can produce the bonds, and you actually said they're shredding them, don't they have to throw this out of court?
	They should.
	And let me give you one other thing, too.
	It's a lot of fun.
	First off, the original search and seizure.
	Completely illegal because there were no law enforcement officers on the premises.
	They were IRS agents.
	And again, they work for a private company.
	That's number one.
	Number two.
	The other aspect of this entire thing is when you're dealing with the IRS, again, you're dealing with a private company.
	Therefore, anything you submit to the IRS is not the government.
	The Internal Revenue Service works as a collection agency for the International Monetary Fund.
	That's a fact.
	And again, you can look up under Title 31, you can actually look up and see that the government maintains a series of offshore corporations or trusts, everything from Lincoln's birthplace to widows and orphans funds to keeping up statues and whatever else, and it's right there under Trust 62 as an offshore corporation.
	This is what FDR was doing way back in the 30s to get all of his illegal socialist fascist crap around the Supreme Court that was striking it down.
	The first thing the Supreme Court struck down was the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, because they said, well, alcohol is legal under the 20th Amendment, I think it is.
	Firearms are, of course, legal under the 2nd Amendment, therefore you can't have alcohol, tobacco, and firearms going around arresting people for stuff that's legal.
	And he didn't like that because they were getting a lot of money.
	So he offshored it to first the Philippines and then Puerto Rico.
	So all of these guys act as agents for offshore corporations, which means none of them can function within your county, within your town, or whatever, without the permission of the local sheriff.
	Theoretically, even police departments are all just big corporations that really have no...
	They're corporate policy enforcers that have to also function underneath the sheriff.
	Let me give you one more.
	There's something called Title 18.
	There's all these people that are going to jail under Title 18.
	And Title 18 is like a counterfeiting statute, actually.
	But Title 18, if you read the preface of the Federal Register, Title 18 was never promulgated as actual law.
	It was actually put through when the Congress and the Senate were adjourned.
	And it says unless you challenge it, it'll be assumed as law.
	But I can show you chapter and verse where Title 18 was never actually promulgated, was never passed by the Congress, was never passed by the Senate, was never signed by the President, and yet they're throwing people in jail every day on this particular law.
	Okay, how do they manage that?
	I mean, how do they manage that?
	Because it says if you don't challenge it, that the presumption shall be taken that it's law.
	So people, because people are too dumb?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	That's right.
	Because they don't challenge it.
	And they don't challenge the authority of the IRS. They just think that they're just, oh, they're just big bad boogeymen.
	And again, the Justice Department steps in as their thug enforcers, but they're actually operating on behalf of a private company, not a private corporation.
	Right.
	And again, it's really weird because with these IRS guys, when we did the big thing about, oh, we got arrested and all this, we went in and they let us go the same day with no bail and all that stuff.
	But they put us in...
	You know, you would think that there would be U.S. Marshals and there would be, you know, we'd be in the back of cages of police cars and all this other stuff.
	These guys were driving Honda Civics.
	They put us in the back of a Civic and an Accord, as an example, to then drive us up to Los Angeles.
	And all the time they're going, well, check your mileage because we've got to get reimbursed for our mileage.
	It was like being arrested by the Yellow Cab Company, for God's sake.
	It was that stupid.
	It was that dumb.
	And then they hand us over to these U.S. marshal guys.
	By the way, the entire warrant, not one place has anything that's an actual law enforcement agency.
	And of course, the whole time I'm going, is this voluntary or mandatory?
	Is this voluntary or mandatory?
	And they won't say a word.
	So it's...
	So, look, I'm not making this out like it's all a big joke or anything.
	I'm just telling people that, Carrie, you know this.
	They go after the best of us.
	They go after anybody that's doing anything that works.
	Anybody that's trying to help people.
	Anybody that's figured out their stupid system.
	And what they do...
	And by the way, they had this whole thing...
	I mean, they did this press release, as you saw, that I didn't realize the Justice Department did press releases like this.
	But they were trying to make it out like we were writing bad checks to people, which is absurd.
	The only one that we did was, again, a check-looking site draft to these IRS guys, which they couldn't even explain in court, where the judge was like, well, it wasn't drawn on anything, and it wasn't a bank.
	It just was on, what, cardstock or something?
	And again, the prosecutor trying to actually explain the case to the judge, where the judge was like, I don't understand the words coming out of your mouth.
	What are they here for?
	I was like, well, they made false presentments.
	It sounds like he just pulled a prank on you, and so what?
	The check didn't go anywhere?
	It wasn't drawn in a bank?
	It wasn't a bad check?
	It wasn't insufficient funds?
	It wasn't Wells Fargo?
	And she's like, well, it was a presentment to the government.
	And I was like, I'm sorry, but you've never...
	And he kept saying...
	Have you done this in the lower courts?
	Was this done in superior court?
	Whatever.
	What about these liens?
	Because all the liens are completely illegal because they're notices of lien.
	And Title 18 was never promulgated.
	And this is what they're getting all these people on.
	All these people on wire fraud and counterfeiting and all this other stuff on a law that never existed.
	Okay, but now, in terms of your defense, I don't know what you can say.
	Do you have to actually go to court?
	It's federal, right?
	So you have to actually have some kind of federal trial.
	Isn't that right?
	I'm expecting that this entire thing is going to be dismissed way before it gets to that.
	Because, again, here's the challenges.
	Number one, I'm not a 14th Amendment citizen.
	Which means I don't come under their jurisdiction.
	Neither is my wife.
	So, again, I've rescinded over and over and over again.
	And this comes under, by the way, there was a case called the Wan Van Ark case around the turn of the century that you had thousands of Chinese in this country.
	That were born here, naturally, but were the parents of people from China, because they were building the railroads.
	And they were stateless.
	Again, they were just like the Negro slaves in 1866.
	So there was a whole bunch of cases.
	There was one called the Slaughterhouse Case and all this, but on the one very hard case, they consolidated them all in front of the Supreme Court, where the Supreme Court said, you have the right to choose whether or not you want to be a U.S. citizen or whether or not you want to be a state citizen in And an American national under the 14th Amendment.
	Because the 14th Amendment is just insidious.
	And the other thing is, and this is what people really need to know, everything is based on your birth certificate.
	Everything is based on that piece of paper that robs you, kills you.
	It basically, with the birth certificate, that is the piece of paper that goes to the state registrar.
	And the birth certificate then creates you as a hologram of the matrix, as a juror, as a taxpayer, as all the things that they create you as as far as the being that the state creates you as with your name and all capital letters.
	Then the birth certificate then goes to the federal government, and the federal government then turns you into basically a 14th Amendment disenfranchised Negro slave in 866, 1866.
	And then they sent that document to 55 Water Street in New York City, and that is then bundled for them to borrow against you to create the national debt.
	That basically, and every single man, woman, and child out there, if you take every, let's say there's 200 million, let's say there's 200 million Social Security cards.
	I don't think it's that much.
	I think it's like 150 or something.
	Social Security cards in the nation.
	and divide that by almost $20 trillion now, and you get an idea of what every man, woman, and child or what every person with a birth certificate is worth.
	I'm sorry, not with a birth certificate, but with a Social Security number is worth.
	Divide that by $20 trillion, and you get an idea that everybody here is, remember, a quadrillion is like $1,000 trillion.
	And so you get everybody being worth probably anywhere between, I don't know, $10 and about $30 billion, based just off the numbers on your Social Security card.
	And by the way, the offset bond number, which is the numbers on the back of your Social Security card, which always start with an A through L because those are the 12 Federal Reserve Banks, A, 1, B, 2, C, 3.
	Those are the first 12 letters of whatever it is.
	So their big challenge here is that, number one, we're challenging everything that has to do with the IRS.
	Number two, we're pointing out that Title 18 doesn't exist and was never promulgated into law.
	Number three, I'm not a 14th Amendment citizen.
	Therefore, my wife and I don't come under the United States Code.
	That's the next one.
	Number four, what you need to do, and this is what I've done, you change your status.
	And this is the stuff, this is what I do for people, is you can change your status when you're born.
	They claim that you're naturally born, which is not good.
	Naturally born means you were born in the woods and wolves raised you.
	You want to be legally born.
	That's number one.
	You want to be legally born.
	Number two, you want to make sure because your mother, because she's all discombobulated and whatever else, what does she do?
	She signs as the informant.
	On your birth certificate.
	Which means that she's informing them that she doesn't really know who your father is.
	And once they turn you into a bastard, a bastard has no inheritable blood.
	Therefore, and this is all in the Judaic code, that you have to have, your mother has to be Jewish, and then your father, and all this other stuff, in order for you to inherit land, or to become a member of the public trust.
	So they basically kill you, they turn you into a bastard, they turn you into a slave, And they put you under something called the Foreign Citizen Trust.
	And the Foreign Citizen Trust now means that you are the trustee, they are the beneficiaries, and now you're a slave working for them for your whole life.
	But what has to happen is you have to change your status back To what we call a SESTIQ trust.
	You guys can look it up if you want.
	C-E-S-T-I-Q-U-E. And once you change yourself back to a SESTIQ trust, now you become a beneficiary of the public trust.
	And all of these people out there, by the way, the trust, and why is this trust set up?
	The entire United States is set up as a vast ecumenical holding company.
	And if you look under Manta.com, Manta.com is a website where you can look up Dun& Bradstreet numbers.
	I've done this.
	I looked up government of the United States on Manta.com, and it came up with a Dun& Bradstreet number for government of the United States, 2.7 million employees, 1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, three executives.
	But then when you look at who owns, you know who owns the government of the United States?
	The Brits.
	Higher than that.
	The church.
	The church.
	Yep, the church.
	And it's a guy named Archbishop Derek R. McLeod of the Washington, D.C. Archdiocese on 4th and Michigan Street.
	Yeah.
	He owns it.
	But why?
	Because what has the Vatican done?
	The Vatican has set up the earth as a trust.
	And what is it a trust for?
	For the return of Jesus.
	And it doesn't matter if it's true or not, but that's what they've set everything up as, and therefore the trust...
	In order for them to maintain their sacred trust, to keep the earth and all the sheep and all the children of Jesus intact until he comes again, that's what it's all set up as.
	So William Rehnquist made a series of decisions about this.
	And by the way, I started reading all these Supreme Court decisions on this.
	None of the patriot mythology and none of the craft that these guys come up with, but the actual...
	There's a book called In Their Own Words, Which is all of these Supreme Court decisions, and you've got to see what they say.
	And William Rehnquist was one of the great jurists out there, and he constantly uses the Bible.
	They're always using the Bible and quoting the Bible because that's the highest authority.
	And Rehnquist quotes the book of Jude.
	And in the book of Jude, and here we have the two books right before Revelation, are supposedly written by James and Jude, that many people believe were actually the younger brothers of Jesus.
	Jude is a fascinating book.
	It's only like two pages, but in this book it talks about how the angels...
	Have abandoned their abode in heaven.
	And because they've willingly done this, they come down and they're ensnared by the demons and devils.
	Well, another word for devil in the Bible, actually what Satan translates to, swear to God, Satan translates into lawyer, attorney.
	Because they're the adversary.
	And they're the ones that accuse you.
	And Satan, being the great lawyer, goes back and forth between the throne of God to accuse the righteous man.
	Well, actually, what it gets back to is Satan is actually Enlil, just so you know.
	Enlil is Enlil.
	Satan is an actual word which means adversary, so there's actually Satan, Lucifer, Enlil, but you can't just say that Satan is Enlil.
	If you read about the Anunnaki and the symbolism of the words going back further than you're going, then it gets into Enlil.
	Again, the word Satan means adversary, and it translates as attorney.
	Even the word attorney actually means to twist, torture, and tear the truth.
	So here's what Rehnquist says.
	Rehnquist says that, and this is a bunch of Supreme Court decisions, he says that the highest title That man can give himself, to imagine that he is higher than his fellow man, greater than Lord, Duke, Baron, or even King, is executor of the estate.
	Executor of the estate.
	Therefore, if you were to change your, if you do all the paperwork and you file it with all the people that you need to file it with, you would become Carrie Cassidy, executrix of the Carrie Cassidy estate.
	Absolute and in perpetuity.
	Once you present that, now it's a whole different game because now everything that they're trying to do is imposed on your estate.
	They also assume that you are dead because all of these things are probate courts.
	And you have to come in as the living man.
	You have to come in as the real party and interest, the living man, making the special, not general appearance as the general executor of the Sean David Morton estate.
	Now you're having an entirely different conversation with these clowns.
	And by the way, every year, all these federal judges go to Reno, and they have a judge's handbook, which is I can't even tell you how long it is.
	I'm not sure if anybody's seen it or published it.
	But they have a big conference that lasts for a week, and every year they try to figure out new ways to defeat everything that I'm telling them, to violate the law in such a way to make people behave so that they can't actually use the Constitution, to violate the law in such a way to make people behave so that they can't actually use the Constitution, I totally understand.
	Listen, Santos Bonacci in Australia has done some similar things to what you're talking about and tried to fight the legal system there.
	Apparently he was not very successful recently, but he did go in and Declare himself a living man and all of that.
	Have you heard of that?
	Yeah, but it doesn't work in England.
	It doesn't work in colonies of the crown.
	And Australia is a colony of the crown?
	Because the queen is the sovereign and you're a subject.
	You don't have any rights.
	Okay, and so, well, are you saying that it doesn't work in Australia?
	No.
	Okay.
	I don't think it does.
	I don't think it would work in Australia because they're both part of England.
	They still have the queen on their money.
	Well, yeah, I get that.
	Well, the United States is apparently under admiralty law, which is also England, right?
	Okay, now, any judge in any court can wear a number of different hats.
	They can wear the Admiralty hat.
	They can wear the Roman Civil Law hat.
	Every judge is usually what they call an Article 4.1 judge.
	But when you present your status...
	You can't have a court case that's not ruled over by an Article III judge because an Article III judge has to then basically judge the living man.
	The only reason I'm saying is that the challenge is that, yes, we are under admiralty law if you agree to it.
	Remember, everything is contractual.
	The government found out a long time ago that constitutional law can be superseded by contractual law.
	So, for example, if I come and I work for you, And I sign a...
	We're in a movie deal or something.
	And I sign a non-disclosure agreement with you, which they use in Hollywood every day.
	I'm giving away a right in exchange for we're going to work on this movie or whatever else.
	But I'm violating...
	I'm giving away my First Amendment right to talk about something.
	Because if I go out and I start talking about your project or whatever else, then you can sue the crap out of me.
	Because it's a violation of the contract.
	Now you can say, well, I have a First Amendment right.
	No, you don't.
	You gave that up because of the contract.
	This is also what the IRS tries to do.
	The IRS gets you to violate your Fifth Amendment rights of self-incrimination because everything that you put on that form, they could supposedly use against you.
	Your Fourth Amendment right to be secure.
	Tell me how you can fill out a tax form without violating your Fifth Amendment right because they claim that they could use everything that you write down on that form against you.
	And then they force you to sign, according to them, under penalty of perjury, although a lot of court cases are abrogating that because You can't do that.
	You can't just sign under penalty perjury.
	You have to have a witness.
	You have to be sworn.
	You have to have a notary do it.
	So they've tossed out a whole bunch of that stuff unless you sign under your name, you know, UCC 301 without recourse, with reservation of rights, etc., etc.
	So you have to sign stuff under your name at the same time.
	But again, after seven years, the thing they're going after us for is for my wife not even getting a refund, me getting a refund, filling out their forms, which were available on TurboTax, with a CPA that helped us fill it out.
	And our challenge is that even if we were to go the straight way to defend ourselves in court for this whole thing, we didn't have any records from back then.
	We were dealing with millions of dollars, and they're saying you're making false presentments to the United States.
	No, we weren't.
	But we don't have any records because the banks are not required to keep records more than three years.
	We don't have any records from back that far because it was seven years ago.
	So what's the targeting going on here?
	Who is it that they're, you know, what exactly are they going after?
	Are they just going dog nuts crazy because they know something really bad or something weird is going to happen in November with the elections?
	Is it just that the totalitarian fascist super state is trying to go after everybody that is, you know, that's a public figure like I am, you know, that's a radio host or, you know, are going out there?
	I mean, you know, we're going out to...
	Two and a half million people every day that listen to what I'm talking about.
	And even then, I'm not really delving into the big concepts of this because it's complicated and it takes a lot of time and a lot of effort.
	But let me tell you one other thing.
	The biggest thing that people have to do, you have to start the process by getting a certified copy of your birth syndicate.
	Then taking the birth certificate and reclaiming it because that is the title on you.
	That is the manufacturer's certificate of origin for the car.
	That is the title deed on what they call corpus res, your property.
	And you take your birth certificate, you get it, you get an authenticated or a certified copy from the county.
	Then you go to, for example, here in California, you take it to the California Secretary of State, and you get it apostilled by the Secretary of State of California.
	There's a big, you get it apostilled, it's a big page, it's in blue, it's legal size, it's got a big gold stamp on it that says, you know, apostilled and approved by the State of California.
	Then you send that to the United States Secretary of State, John Kerry, And you ask them to then apostille it, and it's very cool because they put a brass ring in the upper left-hand corner, and it's a piece of cardboard cardstock on it.
	Not cardboard, but cardstock.
	And it has the seal of the United States.
	It's signed by John Kerry.
	And it says right across the front, accepted for the full faith and credit of the United States of America.
	Now, you take that into court, you hand that to a judge, and you basically, now you have highest title, not them.
	And now, again, you have a whole other different conversation.
	Then, once you get that, which is your highest title on your person, your corpus res, now you begin to establish the SESTA-K trust.
	Which is now making you the Executive General, which, as William Rehnquist said, is the highest title that you can have as higher than a sovereign.
	He says higher than a lord or a duke or even a king is the Executive General of his own estate.
	That way, see now, here's the other thing, Kerry, and I'm not even going too far into this.
	But if you're now the beneficiary and they're the trustees, well, theoretically, hypothetically, you should be able to submit your bills to them.
	You should be able to go in to a real estate agent, have them give you an invoice for a house, submit it to the Treasury, and have the Treasury Department, through the Internal Revenue Service, or actually through Internal Revenue, not Internal Revenue Service, write you a check for a house or a car.
	And I've got a whole list of the Treasury documents that show that you have a right to your trust after the age of majority, which is 25.
	But they don't have to tell you any of this.
	They don't have to tell you that you have a trust out there.
	They don't have to tell you that there's stuff...
	And by the way, once you disenfranchise yourself, because all this other stuff, all this crap that they're doing is still...
	They're under the assumption that I'm somehow a franchisee of them, which I'm not.
	And of course, I'm in the process now.
	It just takes a while.
	Of informing the court that I'm not a franchisee, and have not been.
	Because the word is franchisee.
	If I'm running Sean's Burgers, and I decide to become a McDonald's, McDonald's is going to say, okay, here's your golden arches, here's all the stuff, here's your genetically modified food, here's your crap that's going to make you sick, all this other stuff.
	But now, I'm partners with McDonald's.
	They're going to get a cut.
	And every time you talk about the government, my Jewish stepfather used to say this, He used to say, look, he says, every business deal you do, you've got to think about what you're going to do with your partner, Uncle Sam.
	He doesn't help you, he doesn't contribute, but he's got his hand out when you make anything, and he's got his hand out when he wants something.
	So you've got to always think about, there's you, there's your business partners, and there's your big business partner, Uncle Sam.
	And, you know, that's his whole Jewish engineering philosophy.
	Well, excellent.
	You know, let me just say, Sean, excellent sort of expose of everything that you're going through.
	And, of course, you have this excellent recall and legal mind, which is quite extraordinary, in my opinion.
	But let me...
	That's very kind of you, Carrie.
	And, again, I just want to give you props about...
	You know, you're the only person that's called me to say, hey, Sean, what's really going on?
	I know that you're a good guy and, you know, I know that you want the best for everybody.
	What's really happening?
	And I just thank you.
	A big kiss on the forehead for that.
	So thank you so much.
	Okay.
	But so my question is, so if that's true and you are not a franchisee, as you call it, then how are they going to deal with you once you send that paperwork to them?
	Do you know what I mean?
	It'll be dismissed.
	It'll have to be dismissed.
	Okay.
	And will you get it there in time, you know, by the deadline?
	Nothing.
	We've already gone through that, actually.
	We've already...
	Actually, just some good news all happened.
	We...
	This whole thing isn't even going to happen until November.
	As I told you, they took us in for a day and they just let us go.
	Because we're not a threat to anybody.
	But already the judge is yelling at the prosecutor saying, your case doesn't make any sense.
	They didn't want to give us...
	They stole our computers.
	We've been completely yanked out of the 21st century since they stole our computers back in September.
	And the prosecution was trying to say, you ready for this?
	Well, we don't want to give back the computers because if we give them their computers, they'll commit more crimes for the computers.
	We're like, what?
	What are you talking about?
	First of all, we didn't do anything wrong in the first place.
	Second off, this woman actually said, well, if you just turn the computer on, it'll alter the evidence.
	And the judge is like, oh, man.
	The judge laughed in this woman's face.
	So we're getting all our stuff back.
	We're getting all our computers back, like, next week.
	And nothing's even going to happen with this until November.
	And by then, as I said, all these various motions and everything.
	Again, you basically just have to point out that Title 18 was never promulgated as law.
	And then suck on that and see what they say.
	Then, they're going to have to deal with the fact that nothing was ever presented to the United States.
	Everything was presented to the IRS. And the IRS is absolutely positively a private organization.
	They pretend they have the biggest badges because they're 90% bluff.
	Unfortunately, they can close in on the banks because the IRS gives the banks, through the 1099-OID process, they give kickbacks to the banks of billions and billions of dollars every year because the banks file the 1099-A and the 1099-OID on your behalf because it's abandoned.
	But now, if you file that, and if you get the money, they go after people like me or anybody that's doing this to say, oh, you're committing a big crime, and this is fraud against the government if you want your money back.
	So, you know, and again, please remember that the, you know, we're looking at a financial system here that's about ready to completely implode.
	And I'm not, there's a reason why this is the year of Jubilee.
	This is a reason why, you know, the Pope opens this giant gold door on the east side of the Vatican to declare the Jubilee year.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	When did you do that?
	He opened it at the beginning on the Jewish holiday.
	I've seen it.
	There's a big 60-foot door that's on the east side of the Vatican that the Pope opens this door on the east side.
	It might be every 25 years, but I'm pretty sure it's every 50.
	I know it's every 50 years.
	Then he opens his door and he declares a year of Jubilee, which is for the forgiveness of debt, which goes along.
	We're also in the Jewish year of forgiveness of debt as well.
	Every 49th and 50th year in this cycle, you are to free the slaves, free the petty criminals, break all contracts, let the land lie fallow for two years, and give the land back to the people that originally owned it.
	Okay, so slow down for one minute because that makes logical sense then that this would be their year to make the transition with regard to the financial system.
	Absolutely.
	And I'm telling you...
	So their deadline has to be at the end of the year.
	Let me hear you this for free.
	Listen to me.
	Everybody listen.
	I've been very good at this over the course of the last 20 years.
	I don't care what anybody says.
	I've been exceptional at looking at the cycles or what the stock market's going to do.
	The market's back up to almost 18,000 now.
	It's almost at 17...
	Almost at $1,700 today, but it's going back up to $18,000.
	It may go as high as $20,000 by the time we're done.
	That's a liberal expression of this.
	But with the bloodbath that you're going to see, also, let me just run over the political situation of how tenuous this is.
	We've got Ted Cruz, who could be knocked out by a properly served lawsuit.
	There have been two lawsuits against Cruz as far as the citizenship goes.
	The one was knocked out because the man couldn't prove that there was harm, that he was directly being harmed by Cruz being a Canadian and running for president.
	The other guy in Texas...
	Filed the lawsuit properly, but then never served Ted Cruz with the lawsuit, and therefore that was dismissed.
	But all it takes is one decent, I mean, I could do it, go to a Cruz rally, serve Cruz with the paperwork, and knock him out as a presidential candidate, because he was born in Canada with two Canadian parents, for God's sakes.
	He can't be president of the United States.
	That's number one.
	Okay, well, let's go to Obama if you want to go there.
	No, I know, but the cover-up was put in place.
	But Cruz is never going to be president anyway, but okay, go ahead.
	I'm just saying, this is the tenuous situation of this.
	Number one, you can have Cruz knocked out by a properly served lawsuit.
	Number one.
	Number two, the Obamas and the Clintons hate each other.
	They hate each other.
	Hillary went to the White House, asked Obama for his help in the campaign.
	She made Barack Obama president of the United States in 2008.
	She was the one that gerrymandered the convention.
	And told all of the delegates to vote for Obama.
	She was the one that stopped the voting, by the way, and said, let's just stop this and we'll make Obama the president candidate.
	She went to Obama, said, I need your help, and Obama said, not interested.
	Now, apparently, Hillary started screaming and yelling and throwing stuff, and the Secret Service had to come in and, like, frog-motch her out of the Oval Office.
	And Bill Clinton, after that, said, quote, I hate Barack Obama more than any man living or dead.
	And I'm telling you that she's going to be indicted by the Justice Department probably in May on 125 charges.
	Here's the latest one.
	Eric Prince, who's the head of Blackwater.
	Eric Prince is being hunted down because he was working deals with the Chinese to do covert operations against the Americans and the Europeans in Africa.
	For him to basically sabotage AFRICOM. And he was doing this basically on Hillary Clinton's dime when she was Secretary of State.
	And all these countries were donating.
	Here's her deal.
	She said to Saudi Arabians, you give the Clinton Foundation $35 million and I'll sell you missiles.
	Same thing she did to Somalians.
	She's been this arms dealer that you pay to play because they're professional criminals.
	It's what they are.
	Yeah, sure.
	Her and her rapist husband.
	So, you know, you see the way they treat Bill Cosby.
	And, you know, Bill Clinton has flat out raped at least six women that we know of and dozens of others that we don't that are coming forward.
	And everybody still thinks this son of a bitch is a good guy.
	So that's the tenuous aspect of that aspect.
	Now, let me tell you one other thing.
	I used to work with, because we'll get off all this other stuff, are you satisfied with all the legal stuff and everything else?
	I'm fine.
	And at the end of this, can we have people ask you questions?
	Yeah, sure.
	That's fine.
	Just tell me what.
	So here's what I want to give you for free, for everybody.
	I've only talked about this at some conferences and whatever else.
	During the 90s, I was working with an Israeli mathematician.
	And what we were doing, and part of the way, because I was using this kind of chart magic, if you will, using some remote viewing.
	I'm very good with charts and pendulums to be able to predict things, which is what we did with the 4X stuff.
	And we were predicting the stock market.
	Now, you know, I didn't really profit off that, but I mean, I was on Coast to Coast back when it was good.
	I was on, you know, back with Art Bell, you know, making these amazing stock market predictions.
	You know, telling people things like, you know, Apple is going to sell Pixar to Disney, and even though all kinds of stuff was going on where they said they weren't.
	So here's the deal.
	When the stock market hit its low for this cycle, it was October 17th of 1987.
	And what we did is that there's a Fibonacci wave helix.
	In other words, the Fibonacci, the golden mean.
	You can actually, there's a way to lay the charts out so that when the Fibonacci wave helix was expanding in these various high points and low points, We were predicting the market.
	I mean, I would have this man, Ellie, he would call me and say, today the market is going to go to 5,700.
	I was like, that's impossible, Ellie.
	It's like at 53 now.
	You watch by the end of the day, it will do it.
	And I'd be sitting here watching the charts, and lo and behold, it would go to exactly the point where he said it was going to go to, and then drop down the other side.
	And I'm like, how did he say that?
	It's the mathematics.
	It's on the pie, on the square.
	I don't have to do it.
	So now he's down.
	So after 10 years, he calls me on the phone.
	And he says, I can tell you that what is about to happen is very, very bad.
	And I said, what are you talking about?
	And he said, we are looking now at the numbers.
	I can tell you that October 24, 25, 26, 27, late October, up through about November 15 or so, there is something.
	Let me show you.
	And he shows me when I was in New York.
	We went out for coffee.
	And he shows me the old 9-11 chart that we had where he showed how everything spiked and the market dropped on that day.
	And it was remarkable because it actually had the time on it, which was between like 9 a.m.
	and 11 a.m.
	on September 11th of 2001.
	Same timing, by the way, 9 a.m.
	to 11 a.m.
	of September 11th of 2008, which is when the market crashed and they spiked the computers and they stole three and a half trillion dollars.
	The cover was the mortgage collapse, but they really used these promised two artificial intelligence supercomputers to actually loot like three and a half trillion dollars out of the global economy.
	And had the computers not shut down, they would have taken everything.
	They would have taken $10 trillion, and Western civilization, as we know, would have ceased to exist.
	And Obama comes in, and he's the bag man.
	Barack Obama's entire presidency has been him driving the getaway car for the massive theft and robbery of what happened during the George Bush administration.
	So he's basically just, he's George Bush with a tan.
	He's the same guy.
	And people say, who's going to win the election in November?
	And I say Dick Cheney, because Dick Cheney's been running everything since, you know, he's been running everything since like 1990.
	Yeah.
	So going further back than that, it's like 1988, you know, way further back than that.
	So here's where it gets spooky.
	He tells me that, he shows me 9-11, and then he shows me the 2008 one, and then he shows me, he goes all the way up to the top of this chart, and he says whatever's going to happen in October will be a thousand times worse than 9-11.
	Now, you combine that with the Great Pyramid of Giza, which has this river of fire that's just hanging over our heads, this trough to wash humanity into the pit.
	And you combine that, because I love these confluences of events, you combine that with a very, there's a very famous astrologer in France named Andre Barbeau.
	And Andre was angry at the fact that astrologers were not able to Predict better, with more accuracy, economic fluxes of civilizations, whatever else.
	So he did the charts.
	I mean, he did the transits and the quincuxes and the sextiles back 2,000 years, going from 1 AD. And he is now saying, according to his chart, that directly after the election, somewhere around November 15th, in that same, let's just call it that same time frame of late October through the middle of November, that something happens that basically just the entire world goes pop And everything starts to slide right then, all the way down to the lowest point of the 2,000-year civilization.
	Exactly what the Egyptian pyramids say, by the way.
	The lowest point in human civilization, he says, happens between about 2018, scraping the bottom, to 2022.
	And about that time, finally, humanity starts climbing out of whatever it is.
	And the true New Age really is going to begin when Pluto finally, once and for all, actually moves into the...
	It moves in the sign of Aquarius.
	Actually, Pluto moves into Aquarius in 2023, then he goes retrograde, and then in, I think it's August of 2025, Pluto finally moves into Aquarius, and that's really the beginning of the true new age.
	So this is the year.
	This is when it's coming down.
	This is the year of Jubilee.
	It's the year of everything being tossed, and that's all I have to say.
	So if you want to ask questions, that's fine.
	Um, okay, very good.
	And, uh, that is interesting.
	Of course, we're getting other predictions from other people and, um, Some say...
	I'm the guy that's been right.
	Let's just put it that way.
	All right.
	Fair enough.
	I'm the guy that's been right more often than not.
	Let's put it that way.
	Fair enough.
	Okay.
	If anyone has any questions for Sean, this is the time to do it.
	So put in all caps the questions into the chat and I will ask Sean those questions, you know, as many as we can get to within the next, say, 15 minutes.
	Don't you think it would be interesting, Carrie, if Donald Trump wins as president, don't you think that with all the collapse and everything coming down that the Republicans and the Democrats could both kind of wash their hands of him and say, hey, we didn't want him, we showed you, and then you collapse everything and you blame Trump?
	Okay, that's interesting, but if he's in office, is this what you're saying?
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	You elect him president, and then you collapse everything around him, and then you blame him.
	Then both of the major parties can say, I told you so.
	Well, I get the feeling he's being set up as a fall guy, but, you know, let's see what happens.
	I've also, you know, Camelot was told many, many years ago that Hillary would win the presidency and that that was planned.
	And the reason she gave Obama the presidency when she did is because she was told, you have to wait, but you'll get it then.
	So it's a trade-off that she's supposed to get.
	Now, whether it actually transpires or not, I don't know.
	Well, okay.
	This is just what we were told by Dan Garish.
	Remember, the Bilderbergers met last year, and they picked Jeb Bush to be their guy.
	Yeah, so what happened to Jeb Bush?
	Because he's kind of lost in the ozone somewhere.
	I'm just saying that, again, they also picked Rick Perry to be the presidential candidate in 2012.
	Yeah.
	I'm like, have you met these guys?
	Really?
	Because they just, you know, Rick Perry shoots himself in the foot, Jeb Bush just turns into a, you know, people are just, this is why Trump is the big, giant, alternative media middle finger to, you know, this just shows how much people hate the media, how much people hate the six guys that are controlling all 25,000 forms of communication that you listen to, hear, see every day.
	Yes.
	And let me put it this way, too.
	Trump's the only one who's talked about Obama's birth certificate.
	Trump's the only one that's come out against vaccines and big pharma.
	Trump's the only one that's come out about the conspiracy behind 9-11.
	Trump's the only one that's come out about any of these things.
	And if you imagine, if he gets in office, he's going to blow the lid off the military-industrial complex and their involvement in 9-11, possibly throw Obama in jail, possibly throw Hillary Clinton in jail, I mean, when Newt Gingrich came out and said, he's not one of us, he's not a member of the secret society.
	Did you hear Newt Gingrich say that?
	Well, that doesn't mean it's true.
	Okay, alright.
	Well, again, his family name is Derumph when they came over here, and it is interesting because he's very good friends with people like Sheldon Adelson, the big-time Israeli supporters of this stuff.
	All of his kids are married to Jewish men or women, which I think is kind of odd, so he's a giant Israel-first supporter, which may or may not get us in trouble, but...
	I get the idea that he isn't one of them, and he's not a puppet that's being controlled.
	I also think if they screw him at the Republican convention, how wild would it be if he runs as a third party and then makes Bernie Sanders his running mate?
	How crazy would that be?
	Who knows?
	Okay, listen.
	Yeah, so I'm looking at the questions.
	Someone wants to know what will happen to the Canadian dollar.
	Uh, it's tanking right now because, well, because, you know, I said a long time ago that the Canadian dollars hooked to oil and oil, I said a year ago that oil was going to go down to the 20s, was going to go down to somewhere around.
	I mean, I was doing a reading for a guy in Canada.
	I said, oil's going to go down into, you know, 27, 25, 20, you know, $22 a barrel.
	And he was like, you're insane.
	You're crazy.
	And of course, you know, there were a couple of months ago, it was down at the, uh, Texas crude was down to, uh, $25.60, I think.
	So it's tied to the Canadian dollar, which means the Canadian dollar is going to continue to slide tank because the Saudi Arabians have just finally said, we're just going to start producing oil.
	So you're going to see oil.
	It just took another big dive today because it went up to like $33, but you'll see oil in the $20s here pretty soon.
	And because that's connected to Canadian oil as well, the Canadian dollar is not going to be doing well.
	Okay, and let me just say a disclaimer here that Project Camelot does not agree with or endorse any of our guests, what they say.
	We heartily and emphatically support their right to say what they wish in these regards, but please do not think because I interview somebody that I agree with them.
	Even though Sean is a good friend, we don't agree on everything.
	That's a disclaimer.
	Okay, let's see.
	Where should we be putting our cash?
	Under the mattress?
	Hello?
	Uh-oh.
	Sean?
	Hello?
	Okay.
	Try this.
	I don't know.
	You seem to be on the line.
	Sean, are you there?
	You can hear me.
	But they've done something to your line.
	Okay, I'm going to hang up and call you back.
	So we'll see if this will actually work.
	Oh my God.
	Hello?
	Sean?
	Wow.
	It looks like they knocked him off the air.
	I think we're still on the air, yeah?
	Crazy.
	You can hear me, but can you talk?
	I'm not hearing you.
	Because you're typing.
	This is so bizarre.
	You know all the money behind YouTube that there shouldn't be any issues going on?
	And of course Microsoft owns Skype now, so what's the problem?
	Hello?
	Sean?
	You want to call me on my cell phone and I'll put you out over the air that way.
	You know my cell phone?
	Okay, it looks like he'll do that.
	So let me turn that back on.
	Hopefully he remembers my number.
	Yeah?
	That's it.
	Maybe he thinks I'm calling him.
	Oh, wait, he's calling me back on Skype again.
	pfff Sean?
	Hello?
	Can you hear me?
	Okay, Sean, call me on my...
	I'm going to call you on my...
	Can you call me on my cell phone?
	You know my cell phone number?
	You texted me earlier today.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to tell Sean to call me on my cell phone.
	I'm going to text him.
	hold on one second okay Hello.
	Can you hear me?
	Now I can.
	Oh, there you go.
	Okay.
	I don't know what just happened.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	Panic.
	Panic.
	There was no big conspiracy.
	The cat just ran across the keyboard and disconnected us.
	I just had two cats running around here.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Very good.
	All right.
	What are we at?
	What questions do we have with people?
	Okay.
	So someone wants to know, should they put their cash under a mattress?
	No.
	Yeah, I definitely have Federal Reserve notes around.
	I mean, that's not so bad.
	The banks are...
	Wells Fargo has already taken people out to Arizona and doing crisis training of taking one or two people in, you know, doing...
	Instead of bailouts, they're talking about bail-ins where the banks will just start taking the money of the people or the investors.
	Silver is still going to be the best bet.
	I don't care what silver is now.
	I think it's like $15 or $16 or something.
	But when you actually just do the math on silver and you realize there's only $30 billion worth of silver in the world, and Bill Gates and Warren Buffett own 30% of it, And they're trading the silver ETF market, which is the electronic transfer funds, is something like $5 trillion.
	So there's all kinds of paper that's completely fake that's being traded out there that's going to eventually balloon when everything comes down.
	And look, the bad guys are being rounded up.
	There are white hats out there, both in the...
	You know, in the Vatican, in the Jesuits, in the U.S. government, in the military, I mean, there are people out there that, you know, the bad guys are getting their due.
	Just the fact that, again, you may actually have the U.S. Justice Department doing its job and finally indicting Hillary Clinton.
	And you know what she said?
	She said, if I'm indicted, oh, it's nothing, it's nothing, I'm still going to be running for president.
	So, you know, again, you just have people with this mind-controlled mindset that are just going to vote for this criminal no matter what she does.
	She literally said if she was indicted, she would continue to run.
	So, yeah.
	Just like Bill Clinton getting actually impeached, but realizing he was never going to be convicted by the Senate.
	Anyway, so there you go.
	So silver is still, I think, the best investment.
	That you should probably take and put it under your mattress.
	Okay, what about gold?
	It's so hyperinflated now, it's going to be weird to see.
	Sean, what about gold?
	Gold is not as good a bet, because gold is still manipulated.
	If you and I came up with a big bar of gold, And went and tried to cash it in somewhere.
	Well, we couldn't do it because you had to have a certificate of ownership and there has to be a stamp on it.
	And the only way we could use it would be probably to melt it down into jewelry or some other form.
	Because the price of gold is still completely manipulated by the banks.
	And again, why did they manipulate it?
	Because the three biggest myths are that oil, diamonds, and gold are somehow rare.
	Because they're not.
	There's oil everywhere.
	There's diamonds everywhere.
	There's gold everywhere.
	But silver...
	Again, not so much.
	You can't take it out of film anymore.
	You can't take it out of seawater.
	There's a really finite amount of silver left on Earth.
	And as far as gold goes, who knows?
	Who knows if it's hidden in the Philippines or the Nazis have a bunch of it or extraterrestrials take it or whatever.
	I'm just saying that gold is tricky because they manipulate the price of gold.
	And they can't because the banks are the ones who set the price of gold every day.
	Okay, so there's no doubt about it that it's manipulated incredibly.
	Listen, someone wants to know, when the monetary reset happens with regard to the dollar, do you think the dollar will not be the reserve currency and that the Chinese yuan or yuan?
	Yeah, the renminbi.
	...will be the reserve currency.
	What is your thought on how that will happen?
	Okay, so here's why the Federal Reserve note is still the reserve currency of the planet, and please bear with me on this.
	The Rockefellers always have to have their people in its secretary of state.
	It's always a Rockefeller person.
	It's Hillary Clinton, it's John Kerry, it's Henry Kissinger, it's whomever else.
	They always have to have a Rockefeller stooge in its secretary of state.
	Why?
	Why?
	Because we're at a unique point in history.
	If you look at all the naval battles and stuff on one of my favorite shows, Black Sails, if you look at the Spanish and the British and the pirates and whatever else, for the first time really in human history, you have one navy that controls...
	All the oceans of the planet.
	And that's the United States.
	Therefore, the reason everything is based on petrodollars is because if you want to get anything from point A to point B, especially if you're taking it by ship, then you're going to have to have the permission of the United States Navy.
	And that's another reason why the Secretary of State is always a Rockefeller, because the Navy is guaranteeing not only the production, but the distribution of oil.
	And if you're going to go rogue, and you're going to decide to start trading oil in something other than petrodollars, then you're going to have to figure out a way to get your oil from point A to point B without possibly being sunk or attacked by the U.S. Navy.
	That's number one.
	Number two, the Chinese are buying up a bunch of gold, but Obama has tried, actually, to He went to the Chinese and actually asked their permission to devalue the dollar.
	And the Chinese said no, primarily because there's so much cash, there's so many countries that have hundreds of millions of dollars in Federal Reserve notes out there.
	Now, one of the plans, one of the contingency plans that I was telling everybody about that I saw back in 2006 again...
	I went to Amsterdam.
	And in Amsterdam, this was back in 2006, these bankers showed me this warehouse where they had these big plastic crates with these big brass knobs on them and screws and the whole thing, which were these red backs, these red, kind of pinkish $100 bills.
	I mean, when...
	When the Federal Reserve prints 15 trillion Federal Reserve notes, and they give 5 trillion to the European banks, 5 trillion to the Queen of England, and then they give like 3 trillion to the Chinese, and what was left, the 2 trillion, they handed it to Goldman Sachs.
	And Ron Paul was grilling Ben Bernanke, and he said, how can you do that?
	He says, it's our money.
	We're private.
	We can do anything we want.
	He says, well, you realize we use this as currency.
	And he's like, yeah, so?
	It's just a very funny exchange.
	And then Ron Paul says, is gold money?
	And Bernanke says, it's traditional, people like it, but no, it's not.
	You know why?
	Because it isn't.
	Because you know what's money?
	You people are money.
	Your birth certificates and the fact that they use your commercial energy, they borrow against you.
	And we used to have a name for that, and we called it slavery.
	And they just figured out a trickier way to do it.
	Fair enough.
	Okay.
	I don't know if that answers the question, but yes, if there's going to be a reset, the Federal Reserve note is going to be perfect for them to do the two-tiered currency, then stabilize it overseas, then inflate it here, but eventually the Chinese are going to want to see it at the table.
	And their biggest fear is that now you have Vladimir Putin and his buddies all starting the BRICS alliance, which truly is a way to get around the World Bank, which the Russians have called, and most of these other countries have called a criminal mafia organization, the World Bank.
	So, one way or another, here's the tipping point.
	Back in March, here's the biggest thing, Kerry.
	In March, we hit the 40% ratio, where right now 40% of every dollar on Earth is going towards interest.
	And there's a guy, there's a man by the name of Jay Gladdenfeld who came up with something called the Gladdenfeld Index.
	And you guys can look this up online, but Jay Gladdenfeld proved unequivocally beyond a shadow of a doubt that 60 million companies on this planet, that all the wealth on Earth is held by 750 people.
	And he shows them on this chart.
	And of the top 50 Fortune 500 corporations, there are only two companies that actually make anything.
	And that's Microsoft at 47 and Walmart at 49.
	Every single one of those other top companies is a bank or insurance company.
	The number one money-making company on Earth is Barclays, because they handle the money of the Queen of England.
	Okay, very interesting.
	In terms of, again, to get back to the reserve currency, though, because a lot of people have stated that, in a sense, the Chinese are dealing with oil.
	They're buying oil and using their own currency.
	They're not using the U.S. dollar.
	That's what I was told.
	Notice that that's true, but it depends on where they're buying it from.
	I mean, if they're buying it from the Saudi Arabians, then yeah, there are things going on behind the scenes.
	Nobody's let the Federal Reserve note go quite yet.
	And if they're doing it, I mean, all Russia has to do, for example, is just say, and I think they tried it for a little while and then backed off on it, but Russia was saying that we'll only take gold for oil deposits.
	But, you know, then that gets you into the whole politics of the Middle East and what ISIS is really about and all that.
	The whole thing is basically, you know, ISIS is a CIA front because they're trying to create this Levant, this Levant or Daesh bags or whatever it is they're doing.
	It's a corridor.
	And all it is is it's a corridor so the Saudi Arabians can build their pipeline up into Europe so that they can compete with the Russians in Europe and supply oil and natural gas to, you know, Germany, France, whatever.
	Cheaper than the Russians.
	That's what the whole thing is serious about.
	Okay, well, that's interesting.
	But you have heard that Trump says if he gets in office, he just said recently, I don't know if it stops pontificating, that he doesn't know if he's going to end our relationship with Saudi Arabia.
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah.
	That would be a good thing.
	That would be very interesting.
	Well, because the Bushes are very involved in Saudi Arabia, and actually Trump is saying, and this has been said by other people as well, that the whole regime in Saudi Arabia is propped up, basically, by the U.S. Of course it is.
	I mean, there's only, you know, the Sunnis, you know, the royal family is, you know, even the Sunnis are less than 3% of the population.
	I mean, you know, if And, you know, it's all global politics stuff.
	But, yeah, it would be great if we ended our relationship with Saudi Arabia.
	Again, if Trump did that, we have more oil in the United States than the Saudi Arabians do.
	The problem is that the Bakken oil fields is all junk oil.
	It's all tar sand oil.
	And it's really expensive.
	Again, the most brilliant thing the Saudis did was when King Salman took over, He just said, why aren't we producing at peak?
	And he just started producing oil, dropping it down to like $25 a barrel.
	The days of $100 oil are gone.
	And that way he destroys, he undercuts the Russians.
	He undercuts U.S. oil because we can't afford to take it out of the ground.
	Unless oil is at $100 a barrel or somewhere around at least $80 plus.
	But why?
	You know, oil is just such a false economy anyway.
	I agree.
	And it's going to take one person with the money To be able to just take a, you know, a cold fusion generator and park it in the middle of the city and then start looking people up to it.
	You know, why don't we know people like that?
	I mean, I met Paul Allen once.
	I'm just like, why can't you just buy a cold fusion generator and power Seattle?
	Right.
	But, you know, you just mess with too much stuff that way.
	Well, yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Listen, someone else is asking, is everything going to be asset-backed?
	How do you feel about that?
	Well, the biggest thing I would do is that if people just have stocks and bonds and all that stuff, definitely before October, people should, if I understand the question directly, when you're talking about asset-based, people should take their money out of that and put it into something hard, property, real estate, anything like that.
	As far as asset-based goes...
	Well, you know how they're basically saying, actually, most asset-based, I think that they say, is going to be based on gold, but also on the GDP of the country, like what the products they produce and all that kind of thing.
	Well, the reality of that is, Kerry, is that you can't...
	We never would have been able to build the country that we've built.
	And I know this goes against a lot of people's belief systems in this, but you never could have done what we do with everything asset-based, with everything based on gold and silver.
	I mean, these skyscrapers and buildings and all this are all based on floating credit.
	And it's not a bad system.
	If the system were to work properly, Then they could borrow against the credit of the people as they're doing, but the people should be able to get, you know, and I hate to sound like Bernie Sanders here, but just by borrowing off your credit, you know, they could give you free education and health care, you know, and all these other things.
	I mean, the way the system is set up with the people as the beneficiaries is really not such a...
	It's not such a bad deal if it was to work properly, if it was to function.
	It was to function the way it was supposed to function, which is you have this ecumenical trust where you can borrow off the credit of the people, but the people get something in exchange.
	And that was the whole point of what happened with the bankruptcy of 1933 is when they passed House Joint Resolution 192, They gave the American people or the federal citizens, they gave them over as collateral to the Federal Reserve as collateral for the bankruptcy.
	But it was a guy by the name of Congressman Lewis McFadden, who was a congressman from Ohio, who then filed suit against everybody in the Congress and the Senate.
	Because they weren't giving any reciprocity.
	In other words, you couldn't just add something to the Federal Reserve without giving the people that you were making the contract with something in exchange.
	And so that's why they passed HJR 192, to allow the people to draw against their credit to discharge debt.
	And again, that's what the non-negotiable instruments are about.
	That's what the federal government is all, you know, these supposed Justice Department guys.
	Although when I filed my SESTAQ trust docs with these guys, two days later, after I filed all the stuff that established myself as the beneficiary, and then as the public servants, two days later is when they filed all these indictments and all this other crap.
	Because they freaked.
	Okay, well, actually...
	That's why this whole thing's an airball.
	That's why this whole thing was all thrown together where they just, you know, they threw everything in the pot where even the judge is going, this doesn't make any sense to me.
	I don't understand the words coming out of your mouth.
	You can't even explain your case to me.
	Okay.
	That happened last Wednesday.
	And that was addressed not, just to clarify the listeners, that was not addressed to you.
	It was addressed to the prosecutor, right?
	Right.
	No, the prosecutor.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm just saying that some people can misunderstand if they just hear a phrase.
	The district attorney got up and the judge said, explain your case to me.
	And she went, and the judge is like, what you're saying doesn't make any sense.
	Because it doesn't.
	Because, again, they didn't do anything legally.
	They're talking about liens that they never really filed because their notices of lien and the Internal Revenue Service is not a government agency.
	They're private.
	Okay, Sean, I have a question for you.
	I actually felt that this also came down on you In part because of the release of these books that you're releasing.
	That's so right.
	And that they wanted to prevent the release of book three or were trying to sort of head it off at the past, so to speak.
	Well, that's another reason why they took my computers as well because my manuscripts and the delay on all this, all my stuff was in the computers.
	So now we're finally forcing them to get the computers back.
	So they're going to come back next week, but at the same time, You know, I've been working on it.
	I mean, I've had to piece things together, but look, Kerry, You know, I have been, and let me just plead with people out there, if anybody has been a pain in these people's ass for so long, I mean, if you go back to the exposure of Area 51 in 1991, to me putting it on the front page of the LA Times, to me getting sightings out there and producing that, and then the work I've done with Hard Copy, you know, Strange Universe on UPN, and then a producer for Hard Copy, and, you know, I worked on the Princess Diana and the JFK Jr.
	and the Phoenix Lights, and And then, you know, 26 million people that used to listen to Coast to Coast AM back when it was good, not the piece of crap it is now.
	But if you go back to that, we've changed things.
	You know, between you and I both and your international scope and the things that you've done, you know, I mean, I've punched these guys in the nose so many times.
	And this is the best they can do.
	The best they can do is seven years ago, we filed their paperwork, got a return which they don't like.
	And at the same time, we were doing non-negotiable monetary instruments that said, if they send it back, we'll give you your money back.
	You know, with a self-addressed stamped envelope that said, you know, mail back the bond.
	Okay, but also to clarify, the reason you were doing those instruments was to help people out of debt.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And what people don't know also, you haven't even mentioned, is that you do help prisoners.
	You help prisoners to understand the law and try to help prisoners who are actually unfairly incarcerated to get out of prison.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	You donate your time to do this, right?
	Yes, of course.
	I just went last weekend, drove over to San Luis Obispo to visit with somebody up there, and at the same time, I also believe that the SESTA-K trust documents and doing the bond instruments can actually get people out of prison.
	And I've also pointed out that no one has been lawfully convicted of a crime in California and lawfully jailed in California since 1974 because no judge...
	Has actually signed an actual notice of conviction.
	They've signed abstracts of conviction.
	Which means that, theoretically, hypothetically, if I got together with a law firm, I could free anybody that was convicted of a crime after 1974.
	Because they signed abstracts of judgment, not judgments.
	Because it allows them to store the bond.
	By the way, the entire prison industry, this is a fact, the entire prison industry is owned by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
	It's under the Commerce Department.
	The Board of Prisons, actually the Board of Prisons is under the Commerce Department, but it's on a division where it's all owned by the Department of Agriculture.
	Because every man or woman in prison is considered livestock now, a commodity that they borrow against exactly like cattle or sheep or anything else.
	So it's weird.
	Yeah, and your knowledge is just amazing.
	So listen, we've been on the air for two hours, and so I do want to draw this to a close.
	Thank you so much everyone for your good questions and for listening.
	And Sean David Morton, he has a radio show.
	Please listen to it.
	It's on Revolution Radio.
	Go ahead and give your spiel as to when it is.
	FreedomSlips.com or www.RevolutionRadio.co It's Monday through Friday from 3pm to 5pm Pacific Daylight Time.
	We're one of the top 10 shows on the internet out of 10,000 programs.
	They tell me it's like 2.5 million people listen to it every day, so it's good fun.
	I hope everybody can come along.
	Please, if you go to StrangeUniverseRadio.com we're doing the GoFundMe as well.
	If you want to contribute, you will get a First edition signed copy of Sands of Time, the Icemer Protocol, Part 3, coming out for your blessed donation.
	And again, Kerry, just thank you so much for being an angel, for being just the lowest lane of alternative media, as they say, and for being the only person that actually called me and said, hey, let's hear your side of the story, because you're the only person in the media that did that after all the smear and all the crap and You know, all the other shite that we've had to put up with all of this.
	So thank you.
	And by the way, let me just give a couple of numbers here.
	If you're interested in the SESDK trust documents, you can contact us at SonsOfLiberty.com.
	It's SonsOfLiberty2014.com.
	I think it is SonsOfLiberty2014.com.
	Or, yeah, email us at support, support at StrangeUniverseRadio.com.
	So there you go.
	Excellent.
	Okay, thank you so much.
	And I just want to say a plug for Jordan Maxwell because Jordan Maxwell has also, wasn't he also a teacher of yours in a sense, Sean?
	Yeah.
	Sure, he doesn't seem to have too many nice things to say about me recently.
	No, he wanted to help you, but you didn't understand.
	Listen, all I want to say is a pledge for Jordan Maxwell because he has been talking about this, talking about, you know, your birth certificate and what it means and how you're owned and how to get out of it, etc., etc.
	So, these are people that are interested in freeing humanity and I'm not sure that it always works because, from what I understand, you have to be really up on the legal jargon in order to combat these things in court.
	Isn't that right, Sean?
	Yeah, well, and again, the biggest thing is to present yourself as the...
	See, just the one last thing I want to leave everybody with is that they're dead.
	They're fake.
	They're not real.
	They're race.
	They're the lords of hell.
	They can't touch the living man.
	So the more you can just point yourself out there as the real party and interest, as the living person...
	They, you know, but that's what, that's why, and I've completed the process.
	I know now how to do it where you take the BC, get it at Apostille, get it at Apostille with the Secretary of State, whatever, and now that becomes your title, your SESTCU trust title document, and there's a whole bunch of paperwork that goes with it.
	I mean, it's a long and arduous process to do the paperwork, but, you know, we can do it, we can do it for people and get it out there and put a master discharging and indemnity bond together All right.
	Thank you, sweetheart.
	Give Tally a big hug for me.
	All right.
	And thanks, everyone, for listening.
	Good night, Sean, and good night, everyone.
	Thanks, all.
	Bye.
	And actually, let me say that I'm going to run the credits here, but I also want to say that tomorrow night I'm going to be interviewing Petraea Patrick, and she is a documentary filmmaker.
	She has a film out about the grid coming down and possible EMP and how it would affect us.
	And her film, let me see if I can remember.
	Oh, her film is called Offline.
	And it's a DVD. It's available on her website, which will get all that information up on our site.
	By the way, my site is down, has been down.
	We were hacked just yesterday, or last night, whenever it happens.
	Just saying, I'm using social media.
	You can always go to my Facebook page.
	If you don't, register on my Facebook page as a friend or whatever.
	And there's also, I have like five different pages.
	There's also Project Camelot Facebook.
	I have Rebel Gene, the album that I have out with my partner, Neil Anthony Sanford.
	Which is a lot of fun and contains a lot of good information about, you know, Camelot type matters.
	And so basically what I'm using is Facebook and Twitter and this sort of thing in order to get the word out about what's going on with Camelot while my site is being repaired again.
	And why they probably took me down might have been the interview with Sean that was about to happen.
	And also, it could have been a couple articles that I put on my site recently having to do with academics in Turkey and how they're being basically persecuted because they signed a petition saying that they wanted peace.
	How bad is that?
	And that sort of thing.
	So there's no way of knowing exactly why they took down my site, but it is being hacked.
	We are working on it.
	It'll be back up soon, I do believe.
	And thank you very much to my webmasters and to Tommy Hansen who has also come back to help out at this juncture.
	I also want to say that we are working on an Awaken Aware 2016 conference that will happen in the fall if all things go as planned.
	And everything is not ready for the big announcement yet.
	But I just want to give people a heads up.
	If you want to volunteer...
	For Awaken Aware 2016, put that in the subject line and let me know you want to volunteer.
	And we're going to have an amazing speaker list.
	So stay tuned for that.
	And it looks like I'm probably going to be partnering on that with David Wilcock if all things go as planned.
	So anyway, thanks for listening tonight and have a great night and hopefully see you tomorrow night at 7pm again.
	And thanks for listening and watching.

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