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March 31, 2016 - Project Camelot

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KERRY INTERVIEWS PATREA PATRICK RE DOCUMENTARY ON EMPS

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	Hi
	everyone, this is Kerri Cassidy from Project Camelot and I have a very interesting show tonight I have Patria Patrick and she is my guest.
	We are going to be talking about EMPs and the threat to the grid.
	And I am going to just put her poster here on the screen so we get a clear picture of the title for the show tonight.
	And I'm going to at the same time read you her bio just very briefly because actually I want her to talk more about it than I'm going to.
	There's a lot here.
	So just briefly, Petraea Patrick is a filmmaker, novelist, and activist in the cause for community sustainability, the constitution, and social justice.
	She's currently CEO of Heartfelt Films, LLC, a company out of Burbank, California.
	Petrea Patrick is for securing the national electrical grid and she is a consumer advocate, exposing wrongs every day on multiple fronts.
	She has dedicated years to bringing the issue of vulnerability of the electrical grid to the forefront and reporting on the utilities part in In not putting forth proper protections, this issue has been hidden from the American people And as shown in her documentary films, she is an advocate for the Constitution, getting money out of politics, social justice, education, and protecting the national grid.
	She has been working on grid security for six years, and she has two films on hardening the critical infrastructure from cyber wars, terrorists, and EMPs, which are leading-edge information.
	She's been on multiple radio shows and she has met key figures including the head of Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, presidential candidates, the former head of the CIA, congressmen,
	state senators, state representatives, leading scientists and she has had A high-clearance secret OPS, access to the high-clearance secret OPS center where security threats to our national security are assessed to discuss this critical subject.
	She has been discussing issues of vulnerability of the national grid on radio and YouTube, coast to coast, and multiple other shows.
	Her bio is also available on my website on the front page.
	Where you will see a link to her website which is PetreyaPatrick.com and actually I'd like to get into a lot more detail than that but that's a great start.
	Petreya, it's really great to have you on the show.
	I've known Petreya for actually a few years now and she interviewed me several years ago for one of her documentaries.
	And so, Petrea, welcome, and it's great to have you on the show.
	Carrie, you just said a mouthful there about the vulnerability of the grid, which I'd like to discuss tonight.
	And this is something that we, as people, as citizens, are not being told.
	And when I saw this, I knew it had to be made...
	And brought out to the public.
	This has to be brought to the forefront.
	So what we're going to discuss tonight is what I'd like to say is the electrical grid and how vulnerable it is and how we could protect it, but how at this time it's not being protected.
	And what does that mean to us as citizens and as far as our national security goes?
	And Right now what we have is the possibility of the entire United States grid being taken down by a CME, which also could be known as an EMP if it's done by man, like a man-made EMP. But the grid is just as vulnerable to a CME. And we show that in the film Offline.
	If you can see it here, we're Earth.
	We're this little tiny...
	Tiny little ball here.
	Just a very tiny little ball.
	And then this is the sun.
	I mean, it's huge.
	We're just this little tiny grain of sand next to the sun.
	And so when the sun shoots off these, what are called, corona mass ejections, they can fly out and they can hit towards the Earth.
	And when they do, that's what we're talking about.
	When one of these solar flares hits the Earth, it can cause damage to our existing Absolutely.
	Go right ahead.
	Sorry.
	So the way this happens is The sun sends out an electrical charge.
	The sun is just doing this all day long and it's just a matter of it hitting up with a big enough one here that it hits off a big charge that hits our grid.
	In 1859 we had one of the bigger events that we've noted.
	Now there are very big events, but we weren't able to note them up until 1859 was the first one we knew of.
	When these hit the grid that we have now, our grid is acting like this huge antenna.
	The transmission lines that we see, if you drive anywhere, you see transmission lines after transmission lines.
	As a matter of fact, they're connected from California to Boston, all the way across the country, from Montana to Texas.
	This huge, gigantic, connected grid.
	And it's made even worse now because we've gone and we've connected it with the smart grid, which ties it together very tightly.
	So when one of these coronamask injections hits, it can wipe out the existing grid because it's all tied together.
	And so instead of it just knocking out one section, like it did in the very first one with the Carrington event, it just knocked out the small grid that we had at that time.
	But now our grid is so tied together and it's so important to us.
	In our daily life now, we have to have this grid.
	We need it for every purpose.
	So having a grid that's vulnerable to just the sun, we're not even talking about enemies right now, but having a grid That is vulnerable to this massive, massive sun that can just send off this flare.
	And about every 150 years we'll get one that is that huge.
	And so this is what we're concerned about.
	This grid that we have right now is just laying bare to being taken down.
	And that's what I'd like to get into next is how would that, how would it happen?
	Okay.
	Thank you, Petraea, absolutely.
	And I'd love to hear you talk more about this.
	I'm also hoping that you will talk about your background because you're a very interesting filmmaker and you're also running for an office.
	Let's see, a congressional office in, I'm not sure, is it the 30th District?
	The 30th District.
	Gary, you know, because I knew all this information, I thought...
	The best thing I could do is step forward and run for Congress because one of the things that happens is you go with this information and you tell your congressman, hey, I just heard Patria Patrick, she was talking about the electric grid.
	I want you to go ahead and do something about that in our state or in our district and in our area or the country.
	And they don't do anything about it.
	And why?
	That's another thing we could talk about.
	Why?
	Because they're getting a lot of payback from the energy companies.
	And so they don't want to talk about this issue.
	They don't want to know it exists.
	And they're taking energy money.
	So it enthused me to say, okay, well, if I can't...
	I can't have people watch my film and then tell them, yeah, go call your congressman afterward because they're not doing anything about this issue enough.
	There are a few good ones.
	I've met a few good ones.
	And those are the ones I'd like to work with when I'm running for Congress.
	I would get in and I'd work with the EMP Commission right away and I have legislation in place.
	But I think that's what I'm going to have to do to really get...
	Effective measures taken care of that will protect the grid.
	It's not that hard to do.
	It's an easy fix, Carrie.
	And right now we're having about $2 billion in damages a year on our electric grid from these solar mass storms.
	And it would be about a little less than $2 billion a year to fix the grid entirely so that we would be protected not only from Corona mass ejections from the sun, but also from cyber warfare, from an enemy shooting an EMP above the earth with a missile.
	Or, let's say, terrorists who want to actually attack the grid, which has happened in Metcalfe in California.
	We have been hit.
	One of our substations was actually hit and targeted by some unknown assailants, terrorists, that hit it with over a hundred rounds, knocking out almost Silicon Valley, which is Facebook.
	Twitter, Google, Amazon, the banking industry.
	It would have been very traumatic to lose that section.
	I can imagine some people...
	I'm just going to laugh here because some people find that actually rather amusing.
	But can you tell me, when did this happen and what did they do about it?
	It was in 2013.
	2013.
	The station in Metcalf was hit by assailants in the middle of the night.
	They broke into the substation and went down into the interior of the substation.
	There's an outside corridor.
	And they cut the cables.
	And they knew which cables to cut.
	They cut the cables so that when anybody inside would like to make a call for help or something or see if the transformers were overheating or something, that information would be...
	Not going to them so they cut these important cables then they had a set of gunmen outside of the Not even in the facility, just on the outside, through a chain-link fence because these things are only protected by chain-link fence.
	So our national security here of our grid is only protected by a chain-link fence.
	How ridiculous is that?
	So these assailants were able to shoot at this transformer and they hit the cooling tank and knocked out the transformer overheated Shut down now.
	They were able to come in and fix it later.
	It took three or four months at the rate of hundreds of thousands Probably you know in the millions of dollars to repair repair this they were Lucky because as I say all of the transmission lines can bypass that station and we can buy power from Boston so we're buying power from Boston for that station for a while let's say or from another station but That station was knocked out.
	And that is wrong.
	Okay, and again, what year was that?
	Do you remember?
	It was 2013 that that happened.
	And this is what's amazing, Carrie.
	They kept this quiet for over a year.
	Nobody really talked about it.
	There was a little tiny, tiny bit on the news, and then it was gone.
	And then a year later, the head of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission got a hold of that, and he started looking into the grid and the vulnerability of it, and he said, we've got to talk about this.
	And so once he started talking about it, he broke a story in the Wall Street Journal with Rebecca Smith.
	That was the first time really most of the public heard about it.
	And then Somehow he got cut off, and he was, like, then he resigned.
	Now, I kind of have my own feelings, like, why did you resign?
	But he really wanted to talk about this issue, and at least by resigning, maybe he was asked to resign, maybe he was threatened, who knows?
	We don't know that part of the story, but I did meet with him.
	And his name is John Wellinghoff, the head of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission at that time.
	He is very concerned because our national security relies on the grid and the security of the grid.
	All 18 critical infrastructures that we have, our transportation from communication to our water, to our food supply, to our banks.
	You want your bank card to work.
	You want your cell phone to work.
	Our infrastructure, our military, this all runs on that electric grid.
	So if you take out the electric grid, America is not operating.
	And so this concerned John Wellinghoff instantly.
	He was on top of it, and he wanted to talk about it.
	And instead of him being allowed to talk about it, they shut him up.
	And they had a hearing about it.
	And this is what one of my films, Black Start, talks about.
	That they were shutting people up, the whistleblowers, who wanted to talk about this because if we know it as citizens, we can ask to be protected.
	And it's only fair that we're protected because the White House is already hardened from EMPs and the Pentagon is hardened.
	The CIA is hardened.
	The military is hardened.
	All of the areas in government that need to function are hardened.
	Yet we, the civilian grid, lay vulnerable and open to this widespread horrific grid down situation.
	And I like people to really understand we're not just talking about a blackout.
	A blackout we could deal with.
	But the grid, if it goes down and it falls like dominoes, then it's not going to come back up.
	I want to explain why this is a very different scenario than a blackout.
	When the grid is down, you have no way of bringing it back up.
	It would be like if you had a dead battery in your car and you want someone to jump you.
	You need a viable vehicle, a running vehicle to start your car up.
	And the same thing is with a grid.
	If our entire grid is down, By bringing it up, you can probably perhaps even damage it more by bringing it up, but you need a viable source.
	So the first place it might be able to come up would be, let's say, Niagara Falls.
	And would it take a very long time to do that and then to start bringing up little pockets all the way across the country?
	This could take a very long time.
	And in the meantime, tens and thousands to millions of people would have perished along the way.
	So let's talk about that.
	The Transformers, we're talking about now Transformers just being shut down.
	But what if they're damaged now?
	This coronavirus ejection, when it shoots into the Transformer, It fries the coils in the transformers, and it completely destroys it.
	So that would, using the car analogy, it would be like if I took a laser beam and I shot your car, your engine, it would just totally melt, and it would melt down to the ground.
	And that's how these transformer coils are.
	Once you damage the coils on purpose or with a corona mass ejection with this big flare that fries it, That entire transformer is shot.
	You have to get a brand new transformer.
	Now here's the fun part.
	These transformers are huge.
	They're the size of a house.
	We don't make them in this country.
	I'll say that again.
	We do not even manufacture these transformers in this country.
	How dumb is that?
	And these things take two years to make.
	They have to be schematically and by voltage Exactly done for that.
	It's like a personal order.
	Every substation has their own schematics and their own needs, so it's a very hard thing to make, and that's why it takes two years from the time you order it.
	So we have to order this thing from, let's say, Germany or South Korea where they make them.
	There's a two-year waiting list and we are not even on the asking order list yet.
	This is frightening, Carrie.
	We don't have backups on these things.
	It's too expensive to have backups.
	So why are we sitting in this country right now as a civilian grid and having Congress say, you know, we know the grid's not protected and let's don't worry about it.
	Because Congress knows this.
	They've been told.
	I've told them.
	And to me, it's just...
	Well, you know, actually, you came briefly to show us the...
	I guess it was like a trailer for your offline video to this Richard Allen Miller...
	presentation that happened in Hollywood recently.
	And I mentioned that Janet Reno, when she resigned, said that there was definitely going to be a grid shutdown.
	And so I wanted to say to you that, you know, not only have you talked about it, but other people, and I see on your film, you also have people that are That are bringing that to light as well and have made that more than clear.
	In fact, the challenge has been put out, but the companies are not coming forward to change anything as it happens.
	Right, and that's the frightening part.
	What we could see, as you mentioned earlier in my credits here, now I've been to this ops center where they do the assessment for the grid, and then they'll have the Congress in, and they'll say, okay, this is what we found out.
	These are the risks we're going to run you through, and they run them through the scenario of One of the risks was what would be very smart for our enemies to do would be to say, okay, a corona mass ejection we know is coming on Thursday.
	It's a perfect time for us to cover our tracks and shoot one of our missiles in.
	And knock out the United States grid.
	And the United States will not even know that it was us because they'll think it was the corona mass ejection.
	Because afterwards, remember, we'll be out.
	We won't be able to call anyone and say, okay, you know, can I call my tech department to talk to your tech department so I can figure out and backtrack so we'd know, like, which enemy...
	We wouldn't even know who attacked us in this kind of a situation, Carrie, and this is what is frightening.
	So we're vulnerable from so many aspects.
	When I went to the Ops Center and I found all this information out, along with other information, It was just frightening to me, and I knew the people had to know this information.
	I knew we, the people, have to understand the threat.
	That's why I'm holding the film up, so if anybody wants to get it, it's available on Reality Zone.
	And I suggest everybody get a copy or get one copy and invite everybody over, or somebody that can get a bunch of copies, get a bunch of copies and hand them out.
	But once we know this as people, As citizens, we can say, let's occupy the grid, or we can have a movement to get us protected.
	It's not fair that the White House is protected.
	Congress is protected.
	And that's not why I want to run for Congress, by the way, because I know Congress is protected.
	I laugh at that.
	But you know what?
	The one reason we want government is...
	We want transparency in our government.
	That's one of the things.
	We pay Congress.
	We pay for these people to do the best thing and the better judgment for us, for us, for we the people.
	And now, here we are.
	One thing we're seeing this year with Bernie and even people are all hot about Trump.
	And this exciting, theatrical, entertaining election that we're seeing is really about one thing.
	And the reason we have Bernie and Trump in there is because people are tired of politics as usual.
	And they want transparency in government.
	And they want answers.
	And this is a perfect example.
	This grid situation is a perfect example of how our Congress is...
	In effect, lying to us.
	They know this.
	They've known it for a very long time.
	There was an EMP Commission, Congressional EMP Commission, put together and there was a study by or for that Commission or Congress, 11 different studies that proved to them that the grid is the number one danger of being taken down.
	That's our number one threat.
	And yet, you'll see still, we're putting, this election, we're going to be pouring money into the military-industrial complex, because that makes money.
	There's no money, really, right now for the military-industrial complex to go in and fix the grid.
	Although I can show you how we can bring a lot of jobs, because there could be a lot of jobs if we do go ahead and fix the grid.
	There could be Probably from $10 to $100 million spent, billion dollars, billion, to fix the grid.
	So it could bring a very good economy, but yet nobody's got that piece of that pie, you know.
	So it's not part of the military-industrial complex.
	They don't have that contract.
	So they're not interested in protecting you or me.
	They're not seeing that this is something that they need to follow up.
	In other words, there are reasons why companies that have looked into this have actually not done anything about it.
	Can you talk about that?
	Yes.
	Matter of fact, they don't even want now...
	When I was first going along, I went to a lot of...
	Like here, I went to, there were some summits and some meetings and workshops, and there's just a lot of information in these groups.
	So like you'll go to a hotel and there'll be a big conference on the grid.
	So you pay, by the way, the conferences I went to like were $4,500, some of them to get into.
	So it kept the average person out there.
	I mean, nobody's going to pay $4,500 to go listen to a bunch of people talk about the grid unless they're sort of part of that situation.
	So what happens is the energy companies were going there to keep abreast of new technologies that were being presented and new congressional information on what maybe was being done and what maybe needed to be done.
	What happened now is the energy companies have decided we don't want to participate in that so we will not go to these hearings, or not the hearings, but they won't go to the workshops.
	Or these technical meetings, these conferences, because then they would become liable because they knew that this was a threat.
	So they now just back away and say, well, we didn't know.
	So that's our big thing.
	Well, we didn't know that the grid was a threat, so we...
	We can't be responsible.
	We didn't know we had to fix it.
	We didn't know that it was vulnerable.
	And that is such a fallacy and it's such a shame.
	Shame on them.
	Shame on them that they are not stepping forward to protect us.
	That is such false information.
	Nine out of ten of us will perish in this situation, Carrie.
	This is why it means so much to me to run for Congress and get this taken care of, because I see the numbers.
	First, the way that the grid falls, what does that mean?
	We're not prepared to live off the land like we used to be 150 years ago.
	We're used to buying stuff at a market, and that market is empty in three days.
	We're used to getting our water from three sources.
	We have the Klamath water source from Northern California.
	We have the Colorado River and the California Aqueduct.
	That is all run by electricity.
	Where are we going to get our water?
	That will turn off.
	And why these statistics are so high, nine out of ten people would perish in the first year with this grid-down situation because of cholera-like situations, typhoid-like situations.
	There would be no water.
	In California, we'd suffer the first.
	We would really perish.
	Each area would perish for want of whatever their own Weakest link to that chain was in their area.
	So in some areas it could be food or it could be they just freeze to death.
	But our area, we will have no water.
	And the water we have will be contaminated very quickly because there's no way to really clean it.
	And then if the military...
	That's the other thing.
	The military runs off the civilian grid...
	So it has two weeks that it can function.
	And the other thing, it can function before it can come back in and has to juice up again.
	So it's no good after two weeks.
	So the worst scenario here, too, is that if the United States was to face this grid-down situation, there would be no one coming to the rescue like in a normal situation.
	A normal catastrophe, like let's just look at Katrina for a second.
	Well, okay, if Katrina happened, we could all go over and get in airplanes and fly over and try to get supplies and help and whatever we could, medical attention.
	We could bring things.
	Everybody could come from help that area.
	But in this situation, we're all...
	Down.
	So there's no way I can ask you to bring me anything.
	You'll be in the same situation.
	So FEMA is in the same situation.
	The police are in the same situation.
	You'd have the first responders trying...
	They would just say, I'm staying home.
	I'm going to take care of my family because...
	There's no point in...
	They wouldn't have much of communications to really know where to go.
	They'd be torn between what to do.
	And that's not a good situation.
	That's not what they had planned for.
	If our first responders aren't coming, no one's coming to the rescue in this situation.
	The cavalry is not coming.
	So this makes it even more important, and that's why I held the film up, because I really want people to get this film so they can protect themselves.
	And there's a couple ways we can do that.
	By a grid movement, you know, Occupy the Grid.
	Or getting people in Congress, like myself, who said, that's my priority.
	That is the number one thing.
	I know the environment's important, and I know people have issues in their area, like transportation is a very big issue here, or health care, our vets.
	We have the normal issues.
	But we can't take care of any of those issues if the grid goes down.
	So it must be our first priority.
	It's like if you're in an airplane and the little oxygen masks fall down.
	You don't put it on your baby.
	You put it on yourself.
	And then take care of yourself so you can take care of the baby.
	This is that kind of scenario.
	So, in terms of the outreach that you've done, how long have you been talking?
	I mean, it said, if I remember correctly, it said six years you've been talking about this subject.
	And I'm wondering if...
	If you're able to kind of relate some of the, I don't know, excuses that if you confronted an official, I'm assuming you confronted these officials, certainly you interviewed some of them, and they were more than willing to say that there was a risk and there could be trouble, and that it wasn't what they said, it wasn't if, it was when.
	Right.
	A couple of them repeated that.
	So how have you confronted, for example, the governor, Schwarzenegger, or anybody in those kinds of positions where they actually had to give you an answer?
	And did you have a camera at the time?
	I will be so sad to say this, but over 80 interviews with people like that would not step in front of the camera.
	And that was really shocking to me.
	I thought they'd be the first ones to say, oh, you know, at least some line of we're on top of it.
	But it really boiled down to Where are they getting their money?
	You're talking about politicians now.
	So they have to have campaign money.
	And they have to have a lot of campaign money.
	To be a governor, just running for Congress, it's like you need to raise $3 million.
	To run a Senate race, it's $12 million.
	You can imagine to run a gubernatorial race, it's probably like $30 million.
	Where are they going to raise that money?
	They have to get out there...
	And the energy companies are the first ones Just to back these politicians.
	It's really hard to find that money in their campaign, though, too.
	It can be sort of sneakily hidden.
	But that's the problem, Kerry, we're facing is they don't want to talk about it because it's a conflict in interest and monetary sums.
	So this is very dangerous.
	That's why we need new, clean politicians.
	And it's one of the reasons That our Constitution was so clever, and it made a congressional seat for two years.
	So two years.
	In two years, somebody can't get in there and do too much damage.
	But if we leave them in there, like most of these guys, they've become part of the Millionaire's Club.
	And now when they're in there that long, they're invested and bought, and they become bought.
	And that's the danger, and it's very hard to get them out.
	And that's why I'm part of this movement of let's get new clean blood in politicians In the seats now.
	Let's do that.
	It might be a little bit too late right now for people to jump up and run, but I encourage women, I encourage men, I encourage people to run for these seats because they need to be filled by honest citizens who care and see the needs of the people.
	That's just one of the things that was one protection that our forefathers put in that Constitution for this very reason.
	And now we're seeing when we let somebody be in there for 19 years, like the congressman I'm running against, it's going to be impossible.
	This is David and Goliath, me, running against such a powerful...
	Man in this seat.
	And it's not right and it's not fair.
	I think if he was doing a better job and not taking the money from the energy companies, he's another one.
	He's taking that money again.
	And that comes back to...
	We want to clean out that undue influence of money in politics.
	This is one of the things we must do.
	Otherwise, it's back to the first movie that I made called American Empire, where we have corporations running our country.
	Okay.
	Well, we know we have corporations running the country.
	So what about that?
	In other words, you can't get anyone on camera, I take it, to own up to the fact that they're not prepared, if I understand you correctly.
	And what about somewhere like NASA? Have you gone to NASA and have you approached the military and talked about this to them?
	And, you know, you say you met the former one of the former CIA heads of the CIA. Have you, in other words, tried to do an interview with someone like that?
	Yes, and it was interesting.
	So I met with Jim Woolsey, the former head of the CIA, and I was not comfortable at the first, just because I had my information and I was, you know, once you learn this, you're uncomfortable.
	It's not a good feeling to go to bed thinking, gosh, you know, any minute a corona mass ejection or an enemy can take the country down.
	But when I met with Jim Woolsey, He was frightened too.
	And that made me even feel worse.
	Here's somebody that knew even more than I knew.
	And he actually does have a lot of investments.
	And he's made a lot of investments.
	And he's concerned.
	Like, what's going to happen to all of them?
	What's going to happen to his family?
	What's going to happen to our country?
	These people that I met in these higher echelons that weren't taking the money are very concerned.
	And on top of that, they're very willing to come forward and talk to me.
	And that is who is in the film.
	I have Dr.
	Peter Pry, who is another former CIA president.
	And with the EMP Commission, and I have the former head of the EMP Commission, I don't want to say they're terrified about this, but they're terrified about it.
	You ask them, what's the number one worry?
	They don't have to sit around and think, oh gosh, I don't know.
	I'll tell you right there, the grid is the number one issue.
	If I could fix anything today, that's it.
	Because it affects everything else.
	And the statistics, the toll on our society in deaths would be so traumatic.
	Even a giant earth, there's nothing that could hit the earth like our enemies either taking it down with an EMP strike or Either from out or from within, you see, because that's another frightening thing.
	We saw with this attack at Metcalfe that they almost took down this one grid.
	Now, I'm not really privileged to some inside information, which I'm not supposed to talk about.
	It's classified.
	But this all was classified information.
	Everything I'm pretty much saying about the grid was classified information up until 2008 from the average person.
	That's why I'm so excited to talk about it in my films because that the average citizen would get this information could make all the difference.
	They now can say, I insist, I, I, my, my Congress Damn well better get together and protect my family and my city and my state and my country.
	This is what they're there for.
	This is what they are paid for.
	Our Constitution is to protect us from enemies, both foreign and domestic.
	And if the energy company isn't protecting us, then we have to take matters into our own hands.
	There's things we can do.
	We can do as a people.
	And so, yes, these people that I've spoken to, these heads, the highest up ones, are very concerned.
	They're more concerned than anybody because they see the reality and they live it every day.
	And same with myself, I keep getting all these notifications.
	Oh, you know, Iran, you know, we have this new, the deal, the Iran deal, and everybody's, oh, should we or shouldn't we or you're for it or against it.
	But I will just say this.
	It is weak.
	It's not ever mentioning anything about these low-launched missiles, the CME kind of, or the EMP kind of missiles.
	It doesn't address that.
	That's what scares me.
	So if I was in there making that deal, I would say, I'd like you to add one or two little Sentences here.
	Well, we're protected from the EMP issue right away.
	That has to be in there, and it's not going to make or break the deal.
	I mean, if they're going to have what they're going to have, but we don't need them to have a very big launch.
	They can have a low-lying launch, and we don't want them to be able to have that capability at all.
	Okay.
	Well, have you talked to, you know, we are in an election year and you are running for Congress, which may give you entree to actually talk to some of the, you know, the presidential candidates.
	Have you, you know, you say you've met some, have you approached them on this issue and are they taking any position?
	Well, it's a very good question, Carrie.
	I met with Ben Carson and he was the first one of the presidential candidates to come out and talk about it.
	And I don't think he was quite as aware.
	They don't like to talk about it because they're not...
	It's a very difficult subject and you could get yourself into some bad situations if you don't know what you're talking about.
	That's...
	One of the reasons I don't talk about it so much.
	And I also know that Bush was asked about it by the Resilience Society came to one of his talks and Tom Poppett got out there and actually asked Bush, this question, and he answered it very well, and he seemed to be more abreast about it because he had some more time.
	When I approached Ben, it was a while back, and then, so they know it's coming up.
	They get a little bit more prepared for it, and So I think even Ted Cruz said something about it.
	But they're not saying enough, and they only bring it out if questioned.
	And that's the scary part.
	The cat's out of the bag already.
	Ted Koppel already did a book about this.
	This is mainstream.
	So they might as well talk about it and say, I am prepared not only to talk about it, but I promise you, as your president, I promise you as your congresswoman, I promise you as your governor, it doesn't matter what election, I promise you as your mayor that I will be looking into this and I will support protecting our grid as our number one national security issue with all my heart.
	And I met a few candidates that I'm so proud to know.
	Back in Maine, Andrea Boland was the first one to bring legislation to Maine on this very issue.
	And I would be honored to be the Congresswoman here in California to bring that forward in legislation.
	And I've already written this legislation.
	And what's funny is now I see my opponent and he'll be some...
	A couple people have told me, oh, they went over and they heard one of his guys now talking about EMPs and...
	But I'm sure he's gone to my website and said, okay, we better brush up on this because that's her main strength.
	And I'll tell you, Carrie, it's not so far from happening.
	We just saw, here in California, the Aliso Canyon Porter Ranch gas disaster was the largest gas disaster on record.
	Now, why did that gas happen?
	Why did that happen?
	They were falsifying documentation on a valve, a safety valve.
	They had 118 wells, give or take, and they had some good wells with some good valves, and they took pictures of the good valves, and they just said, well, let's just kind of put that picture in here, and so it looks good, too.
	So they didn't have to fix it.
	They knew what they were doing.
	It was a premeditated action, so it's got a criminal charge to it.
	If it was up to me, I would look at the fiduciary risk there that they took, and it was as a gamble, like how long can we get away with this versus what do we have to pay?
	And there should be a fiduciary risk based on the way that these...
	Energy companies are handling their stockholders' value here.
	Okay, but let me ask you, you know, actually, you know, I don't live that far from that area.
	And luckily, I'm not that close either.
	But I can say that my understanding is there's more going on there than even that.
	But I am wondering if your information has revealed the fact that They actually forced a huge number of people to abandon their houses.
	From what I understand, there's no way those people can return to those houses in the foreseeable future.
	In other words, this is ongoing.
	There also seems to be a lot of volcanism attached with this.
	I don't know whether you've looked into the volcanism in California, but we have a lot of Of under the earth, volcanism, and it comes to the surface in areas like Santa Barbara, for example, where they often have steam coming out of the sides of mountains and so on.
	And also in places like, well, Death Valley and in those areas.
	So have you looked into the volcanism and also have you looked into some of the bigger, I guess, the bigger story behind this recent, you know, the Porter Ranch situation?
	Well, the bigger story, yes, many, many people are evacuating and have not been able to return.
	First off, you get sick when you go there.
	So it's a lot of people still get sick.
	Some people don't get sick, but a great number of people still can't go home.
	But to finish the thought...
	The vulnerability of our electric grid is on the same token.
	Remember, I was talking about their falsifying information about the valves.
	Well, they're doing that same kind of thing in the electric grid, too.
	They're saying, oh, well, they have white papers that will come out and say that we're protected against some kind of a coronal mass ejection, but the one that they're protected from is so small.
	It doesn't count.
	And so...
	I see the electric grid as a bigger example waiting to happen.
	Like Aliso Canyon.
	That's just a small example.
	And look how many people were displaced.
	Look at that.
	So I just don't see any worse disaster that could happen than our grid coming down, and it may as well have something to do with what you're talking about.
	I wasn't privy to any of that, but I just know the grid in general is run so shabbily, and there's so much illegal Payoffs going on.
	If you or I did in our daily business, we would be thrown in jail, and yet these corporations get away with that.
	There's two sets of laws.
	There's one for you and for me, and there's one for corporate enterprise.
	Again, that is wrong, and it may boil back down to somewhere what you're leading into.
	What about smart meters?
	Because that's been a big change in the last couple of years where a lot of, at least Southern California, is on what are called smart meters.
	And do you know how that affects the overall problems with regard to this?
	You just hit the nail on the head, as they say.
	It makes the whole problem exacerbated.
	Now we need to get in there and mitigate this by getting rid of the smart grid.
	Not for any other reason.
	I don't particularly think the smart grid has been a healthy choice.
	I think it's very dangerous.
	But even if that wasn't the problem and the issue, the point is it's tied the grid all together.
	And when it's tied together like that, everything's touching.
	And so when the grid goes, it all will go.
	That's where you have that cascading effect.
	And so the smart meters...
	Tied it together in the most defining way.
	If you wanted to take down the grid, if I was an enemy, I would have gotten into our Congress and said, we have to have smart meters, and by gosh, that just makes it so simple to take the grid down.
	You know, when we had the Carrington Effect in 1859, it was over 150 years ago now, that was a small pocket.
	But it was like this group of telegraph lines that were acting a little bit like an antenna, so that when that coronamass ejection hit, it actually knocked out...
	And you could actually see the energy running along the line, and it was just like incredible.
	And it started fires, and it burnt into the ground, and it burnt buildings down, and it was just really impressive for...
	That wasn't even the biggest coronamass ejection that we know of now.
	But could you imagine with now, with these smart meters and the smart grid, it's all intertwined like that, touching.
	I mean, it's just like there's no safety net because it's all touching.
	And that will make it all fall down at once.
	You couldn't have designed a worse idea for the safety of the American people.
	Okay.
	Now, did you do, you know, have you wrapped, for example, the smart meters into your, I don't know, platform when you're running for this office of Congress?
	Or, you know, have you also addressed that with the companies?
	And what do they say when you say that these smart meters have actually made the problem worse?
	Okay.
	I'll tell you, a lot of the energy company heads What I've seen is really interesting.
	They'll be in there for about five years, say.
	And they're getting really big money.
	I mean, big money.
	So I've addressed a few of them.
	They're the very biggest, topist of the food chain in the energy company.
	So just by about the time I get in there and I wear them down, or John Wellinghoff gets in there and wears them down, or these companies that are making grid protection devices get in there and they try to wear them down.
	You know, their big thing is like, look, That's not going to happen.
	That's their first answer.
	Oh, that's ridiculous.
	And a lot of the people who do contracting for them, that's their line.
	That's not going to happen.
	That's so far-fetched from happening.
	Well, Lloyd's of London...
	Insures this grid and you know They're not saying that they're like wait a second This could happen and we're going to be responsible to pay for it.
	So I want to dang well know What does this mean?
	So what happened is Lloyds of London went out and did their own assessment of the grid and they saw you know what this can happen and so You know right now.
	That's why the energy companies will falsify this documentation so that when their own insurance companies look at some of these records, that it won't look like, okay, it's an if.
	It's not an if situation.
	It's a when.
	They want it to look like, okay, that's not going to happen, or it's such a fat chance, or we have other fish to fry.
	And this is what they really do is they go, hey, right now we've got to deal with forest fires.
	We've got to deal with floods in our area, knocking these poles down.
	We have severe weather conditions over here, It's freezing and people are just using too much and we're having overloads of power usage.
	So they have all these made excuses that they could say, we have to deal with this right now.
	We can't look at that.
	And that is not true.
	They can look at it all and they can plan for it all and they can afford to do it all.
	But these CEOs, by the time you badger them down, You know, it takes about five years to badger them down, and then what happens?
	They get replaced, and it's like this system.
	They have it figured systematically.
	Like, okay, this one guy can only take so much of it, so, you know, we'll pay him a ton and ton, and he'll get his five or ten million every year, and then he goes away, and we'll have a new guy come in who's fresh and who can start taking that beating again, because it is a beating.
	I mean, they have to answer these questions that you just asked.
	These are hard questions, and they've got to answer them, and, you know, it's hard to lie every day or Or dilute the truth.
	Or know that this threat of 9 out of 10 American citizens could perish if the grid goes down.
	Nobody can disagree on that.
	Okay, what about the press?
	Have you tried to approach the Los Angeles Times and have you done any, I don't know if you're even able to do this, but have you tried to have screenings of your film, for example, in Hollywood and in small towns really across the United States, that sort of thing?
	Have you entered it in festivals, etc.?
	Yes, we've entered it in festivals.
	We're trying to have some screenings, but they aren't cheap.
	And to, like what I try to do is put out on my Facebook page, 4 Offline, if people want to have screenings, we could do that.
	And people could have screenings in their homes if they get the film.
	And for Black Start, which I don't have a copy of it right now in front of me, but...
	That film, I'm trying to have some screenings of it as well, because there's two big issues here.
	There's the whole political side, which Offline talks about, and then there's the whole destruction side and what's going on that Offline talks about.
	It's a massive issue.
	Why isn't this getting taken care of if it's so traumatic?
	I have talked to the Los Angeles Times.
	I had a reporter over and showed him Black Star.
	By the time the movie was over, he was shocked.
	And I thought, oh my God, tomorrow it's going to be on the front page, Black Star, portraying Patrick.
	And you didn't hear from him, and I wondered why.
	So I called up and he goes, you know what?
	Our paper just, we're not allowed to talk about it.
	We're not allowed to get into this issue unless there's a big grid situation where the grid goes down and there's a reason to talk about it.
	They're not letting me bring it up.
	And I'm like, well, wait a second.
	If the entire grid goes down, that's too late.
	That's too late.
	Yeah, then you can't talk about it because you won't have a newspaper.
	Yeah, so it's really frustrating.
	All the things you just asked, yeah, I tried, but it's expensive.
	And then it's disheartening when people, and you spend so much effort.
	Gosh, Carrie, I can't tell you how much money I've spent making these films, putting together going places, traveling.
	I mean, it's been, you know...
	Over half a million dollars just putting all this stuff together over the years and way more than that.
	Filmmaking is expensive, you know, and it's timely.
	You need to edit it.
	It just needs to all be right.
	It's what plays out.
	And these films are so important that they have to not be challenged.
	I didn't want to have false information in there.
	So I was very cautious that everything is based on You know, scientific data and from the congressional commissions and EMP reports and the white papers.
	So when I don't get reaction, it's just maddening.
	And I got to say, you know, we are so, although we're dealing with a lot of people in our society who care, like they listen to your show, they want to do the right thing.
	Right.
	We got another bunch that don't care, that they'll watch, whatever.
	Reality shows or football just aren't paying attention.
	It goes in one ear and out the other if they even did hear it, but they aren't connected.
	It's like they're colorblind to it.
	It's frightening.
	It's frightening, and I think that's kind of one of those things that might go back into one of the things you talked about, like people start getting ingrained to not...
	To not be part of the solution.
	And that is something to do with mass indoctrination, the way we're taught, the way that only the rich can, you know, do these things.
	I'm not a big film studio.
	And so it's hard.
	For me to get the film out, I would like about a normal film around here is, you know, $20 million.
	To get a film out, to get the publicity, to get the screening rooms, to get the audience there, to get people engaged, to put out the posters and all that.
	We don't have that kind of money.
	Let me ask you this, though.
	You said that Silicon Valley had a close call in 2013.
	Maybe there's some leeway there.
	Have you...
	You said it basically kind of disappeared.
	Was it the major corporations, such as Google, etc., who hid this information?
	In other words, they're closer to an actual event that happened or nearly happened in their backyard, so to speak.
	And I also want to know about the nuclear power plants.
	So if you can answer both those questions.
	Okay, you mentioned the big one.
	Let's do the small one first.
	Google, what happened is Google got notified by its...
	It got so upset.
	Let's say Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon.
	They were really upset.
	They went to the energy company right away.
	Like, what happened?
	Because they noticed...
	and they they were told oh don't worry about it well you know we will have the power right back on and it took a while but they noticed and so they started doing their own homework on this and they saw geez there's no protection and so what did they do they went out and they protected some of their grid area some of their and some of their i wouldn't call it a grid but their their facility so they protected their facility and i can talk about those uh devices But
	there's some devices that they could purchase, and then what they do is they hire a certain company, some of the companies that I interviewed in the film, and say, can you protect our entity so that we don't go down if this hits?
	Because it's going to cost...
	It's not only going to cost us, we're going to lose all our customers and everything.
	This would be tantamount to everything.
	All they are is an information highway.
	So they're losing everything.
	It's just completely shut down.
	So they have to take care of that instantly.
	So they did hire some professionals and some of the people I know.
	But what does that do?
	Now that means, let's say Google is all protected and Facebook is all protected.
	But you're not protected.
	So their customer's not protected.
	So they really don't have a customer.
	They protected themselves.
	It's the same thing.
	They protected themselves like Congress is protected.
	So now I guess Congress can talk to Facebook.
	I mean, we're in a bad situation, but we're screwed.
	Right.
	And I'll tell you how bad it gets, Carrie.
	Yes, you asked this very sad question.
	About 80, 98 functioning nuclear power plants in our country.
	Plus, any nuclear plants that we shut down still need to be cooled for a 40-year period.
	Just because they're shut down, there's one up in Eureka, there's San Onofre, and there's a few...
	Those still have to be cooled and their cooling rods are the problem.
	When we saw Fukushima, let's use that as an example.
	When Fukushima was in trouble, they turned Fukushima off.
	There wasn't any power going to it.
	So it wasn't a functioning nuclear power plant.
	So what was the danger?
	The danger was the fuel rods were overheating and when they are not kept cool, you go into nuclear meltdown.
	Now, We go over here to the United States and we take that example.
	We look at our 98 functioning power plants.
	So even if they knew, okay, they could even say, oh, we know something bad's coming.
	Like some, you know, they could say, okay, we'll turn off.
	Well, you can't turn the cooling plant fuel rod area off.
	That has to be fueled by electricity to keep cool constantly, or they will go into a Fukushima situation.
	When I interviewed for that part of the film, I think my heart just broke.
	And how do you tell your kids that?
	How do you deal with that?
	Ninety-eight nuclear reactors going off in our United States all at the same time while we're having a grid-down situation is a disaster inside a disaster.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	It would be the worst scenario we could ever face.
	Why is our Congress not looking at this and saying, my God, my people are in trouble and I need to do something?
	Let's get Ms.
	Patrick in here right now for our congresswoman.
	She understands this.
	Let's get her in here.
	She's elected.
	You know, she can take care of this.
	There are people that can do this, but we need to get them in there.
	And these people that are holding these congressional seats right now, you know, they're fighting an old war.
	They're like, well, we got to keep the military-industrial conflicts going, and that's where their payoff is, and that's That's where that money is and that mind frame.
	And we're not fighting that kind of war right now.
	We're fighting in war right now where I can come in with my...
	Not me, but people can come in with laptops and take down nuclear power plants.
	They can come in and take down...
	These substations that run our country, our country depends on them.
	We need them every day for everything we do.
	Why are they not protected?
	And our little cybersecurity, you know, if you listen to FERC, they'll go, oh, we just put in new cybersecurity on everything.
	And it's tantamount to saying, we put cybersecurity all over the substation, everywhere except the control rooms.
	Wait a second.
	That's the only place you need the cybersecurity is in the control rooms.
	You don't need the cybersecurity on the chain link fence.
	You need it in the things that are running the transformers and saying, hey, what are reading?
	Is it cooled properly?
	Is it functioning right?
	So I can get in there with my cyber malware.
	There's something now called black energy that can get in there.
	And it's worse than...
	We had something called Stutniks that was so terrible.
	A very, very hard virus to get rid of.
	Right.
	I mean, it's so hard, we're still not even sure if we got rid of it.
	This black energy is worse.
	And it can go into a control room and it's kind of like that China Syndrome movie where the guy's saying, hey, it looks like we're heating up too much.
	Quickly, turn everything down and cool it down.
	And then he went and he knocked on the little door and goes, oh shoot, it was just a malfunction in the $10 piece, the little needle stuck.
	Well, that's the kind of thing that they can do something like that where they can make it look like Oh, the transformer's just fine.
	Meanwhile, that transformer's overheating.
	And as I said before, if the transformer, these things are the size of a house, and if you melt the coils on that, it's gone.
	It's not coming back up.
	There's no fixing it.
	There's no repair job.
	There's no technician you can call in.
	You need a whole new transformer.
	Which I said takes two years to deliver and two years to make.
	If I'm telling you this, why isn't my congressman worried about this?
	Why isn't he telling you, why did I have to run for Congress to do this?
	Why aren't the people in there now stop being a bunch of con artists and start being congresspersons?
	Absolutely.
	Very well said.
	Okay, what I want to do at this point is take questions from the audience, because we do have an audience, and this is live, and they can type their questions into the chat.
	So I'm going to ask that everyone who is in the chat and would like to ask Petraea a question, this is your opportunity.
	Please put the questions in all caps so it's easy to read and quick for me to scan through the chat really quickly and see the questions there.
	And so we'll do that, Petraea.
	And while we're waiting for those questions to start cropping up, is there anything else that you want to talk about that you feel is really vital and is being overlooked in terms of this overall picture?
	And also your other documentaries that you put out there and you can certainly talk about those.
	Yeah, I'll just real quick while we're waiting for the questions, I just give a plug to...
	I wrote a book called Titanic, A Perfect Crime, and I don't know if you can quite see it there, but what's really interesting about it, it's coming up of the anniversary of Titanic.
	You know, I love to do research and being a filmmaker and all, and, you know, I just learned so much information, and I just thought Titanic, A Perfect Crime, was...
	It's kind of a scenario of what we're in today.
	The way that Morgan actually is a big character in this book because he Morgan, J.P. Morgan, he was the monopolist, and he owned everything at that time.
	He wanted to own the shipping, and he wanted to own the trains, and he wanted to own the banks, and he wanted to own the steel industry, and he wanted to own electricity, the energy.
	And so he had this big monopoly.
	How did he do all that?
	How did he hold it together?
	And a lot of it's expressed in this book, but it's kind of the scenario of how the Corporations today have done it.
	And this book is a really beautiful novel.
	It makes a wonderful gift and gives anybody a fast education.
	And you know what?
	I want to read this book.
	And so do you have it available on Kindle?
	Yes, I've got to get it on Kindle for you, and I will be working on it.
	I didn't do it yet, but...
	How long will it take?
	Because I want to read it now.
	Oh, my God.
	I will have to, I can, Carrie.
	But, you know, you learn a lot of things being a documentary filmmaker and researcher, and you know that yourself.
	You've got such a vast array of knowledge.
	I know when I interviewed you, I could...
	I love it that I can take you...
	On this journey, you have answers to so many, to this vast realm of things.
	And I see right now people are wanting that information.
	That's where we come back to where we first started.
	They want transparency in government.
	There's so many things that we aren't being told.
	And again, why has our government gotten so...
	You know, so far from us that it's so untouchable.
	It's intangible.
	It's unimaginable to us, the things that are going on there.
	And we just have an election year now, and I just feel, gosh, People could make that difference.
	If there is a God in heaven, please come down and bless our country.
	We want to do the right thing.
	We as citizens want to do good.
	We don't ask for wars.
	Wars are money makers.
	It comes back down to this book.
	This will explain why we are in wars.
	These people are making money off wars.
	Sure.
	I don't make any money off a war.
	I don't need a war.
	I don't need a war.
	You know, there's nobody I'm angry at.
	That's great.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And I just feel we're given these false things and now the new thing, you know, these terrorists.
	There's always somebody that we've been fighting ever since World War I. It's just...
	This perpetual war game that we're in, if you look at where most of our spending is, it's for this military-industrial complex, which Eisenhower said beware of.
	And, you know, when you're a mad bulldog or a Doberman pincher or whatever this anger that we carry in our country and do these perpetual wars all the time, even though they look sometimes, they're wrapped like, oh, we're doing good, we're really out there for our own purposes.
	And it puts a bad stain on our morals of our country, on our hearts, and on our people.
	And we tend to turn the other way.
	And we like getting our oil cheap.
	And we like getting our food cheap.
	And we're importing a lot of our food now.
	And what is the price on that?
	What is the moral footprint?
	You know how many people we've displaced out of South America for people to have McDonald's and Jack in the Box and Burger King?
	The numbers are outstanding.
	We go down in there and we've let companies like Monsanto go in there and spray all this like Agent Orange material and it displaces the farmers and ruins their farm.
	And then we come over and take all of that land.
	Oh, there's this land.
	All of a sudden there's this great land there.
	Now we can raise cattle.
	And no, that land was...
	Belonging to a coffee farmer six weeks ago and belong to a banana farmer before that and a cocoa maker and You know we don't look at that when we buy our food and we need to and there's no you know It's one of the reasons why we want to label GMOs.
	We need to not only label GMOs.
	We need to label What oppression came with this food you're eating.
	You know You talk about national security.
	We should be growing more food here in this country once again For national security.
	That's one of the things we don't have.
	I have a really great plan as I'm running for Congress.
	How we can get out of the drought.
	We can get out of this drought.
	There's brilliant plans for droughts.
	There's brilliant plans for our energy that we could do.
	But you're fighting the water company who says, no, I'm not going to let you do that.
	And you're fighting the energy company.
	You can't have free energy.
	Where do people put the money?
	How can they pay the money?
	There's no free energy.
	It's one of the things Titanic A Perfect Crime talks about.
	Tesla's in here, and he's wanting to...
	Titanic A Perfect Crime describes Morgan was backing both Tesla and Edison.
	Right.
	So he was like, okay, whichever one comes up with the thing I like, I'll back them all the way.
	Well, when Tesla said, Morgan, I've got it.
	I have the answer for energy for you.
	And it won't cost anything.
	It's free energy.
	And they're like, well, you're fired.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, not just fired, but killed.
	Yeah, you know, that's sad.
	No more, we don't need you anymore.
	And this is a sad thing.
	This is what I'm talking about.
	The morals of our country must not be dictated by men like this.
	Must not be dictated by the powers that be right now.
	We the people.
	It's we the people.
	And we must take our Constitution back.
	We have a big opportunity to do that here.
	And you really need to look at that and vote with your heart.
	And vote to get people in.
	Put people in.
	There's nobody you want to vote for.
	Find somebody.
	I had a struggle, so I said I'll be it.
	I'll step forward.
	People stand behind me.
	I have a lot of knowledge.
	I know how the game is played.
	I'll do it for two years.
	I'll do it for four years if you want.
	I don't need to be in there forever and I don't need to be part of the millionaire club.
	I just need to be part of making America strong again.
	We need to produce something here.
	Right now we're a digit nation.
	We're producing debt.
	That's the number one thing we're producing is debt.
	That comes back to my new book which is called 10 Days at Jekyll Island.
	It's talking about We're good to go.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Okay, Petraea, lovely to hear you in this way.
	And I've got some people asking a few questions here.
	So let me run the Mayu.
	First of all, someone says, why hasn't someone ordered extra transformers years ago?
	The number one reason is they're $100 million or more.
	So we need 3,000 of them.
	Economically, it wouldn't be smart.
	It's to protect the ones we have.
	And they can be protected for a relatively cheap price of probably $2 billion to protect all the transformers in the United States, not only from the CME, but from the cyber, as I mentioned before, the cyber and even the physical attacks, which we saw Metcalf, it could protect them from that.
	It can protect them from The Corona mass ejection and as well EMPs.
	So we're really getting a bang for our buck there.
	And that's two million dollars.
	We spend two billion dollars.
	Two billion that was.
	We spend two billion dollars Every, you know, day for small things.
	I mean, that's why we're $19 trillion in debt.
	I mean, we're spending money where we don't need to be spending money.
	That's another thing.
	You know, we could fix this very cheaply.
	We need to be doing that now.
	And it's our constitutional right to be protected.
	Absolutely.
	Someone else wants to know, can we get a time frame that you think this might happen?
	I guess they mean, you know, a CME, because you can't predict an EMP. But as far as a CME, did the scientists you talked to give you a timeline?
	Yes.
	It's known...
	That the scientific data that the energy companies are using is what they call the 20-year model.
	So if you look back in the last 20 years, there wasn't a very, you know, there hasn't been a big enough corona mass ejection to really do that much damage.
	There have been them, but they haven't pointed towards the Earth.
	Let's be clear about that.
	So what we have is a situation now where if we take the 100-year model, which the scientists that I've been talking to are using, or even better, the 200-year model, we must take into account the Sun is billions of years old.
	So to find out what it's doing in 100 years is not enough of research.
	That's not research if you're going to look at 20-year models for the sun.
	You need to look at these bigger models.
	We don't even know that now that we've been looking at the longer models that the extinctions or some of these mass extinctions that we look back in through history, some of the people that you've interviewed and they talk about there were civilizations and all of a sudden they disappeared or whatnot.
	It could be a possibility that a major massive solar storm hit and destroyed them.
	You know, a really big one would really just, could knock out, really, entire civilizations.
	But about every 150 years, and that's why we need to use the 200-year model, we get a pretty good one aimed this way.
	And it's just not a matter of if, it's a matter of when at that point.
	It's like we're playing Russian roulette with the sun, as my friend John Kapperman often says.
	It's just a matter of time until that will knock the grid out.
	Now, 200 years ago, Or if we went back 400 years, we could go back 500 years, 2000 years.
	If we had one of these giant coronamass ejections hitting, it just doesn't do any damage to rocks or to people or to, you know, when you're cooking fire, fire.
	You just wouldn't really notice it.
	But if we have that now and we've made this antenna-like grid situation, that's when you've put an Achilles heel.
	You've made it a target now.
	For that coronamass ejection to hit.
	We've become the target when we make this, when we've made this little tiny earth a target now.
	And so it's going to attract that like a magnet.
	That wasn't a smart idea.
	With the technology we have...
	We shouldn't be having this discussion.
	This should have been taken care of.
	The people that were making the grid should have been smart enough to say, hey, you know what?
	We're going to have a flood here.
	Don't build the power plant here.
	We're going to have fires here.
	Let's don't build the power plant here.
	Oh, we have earthquakes here.
	Let's don't build the plant here.
	Oh, we have corona mass ejections.
	Let's not tie the grid all together.
	Let's have microgrids.
	And that name right there, if I mention that microgrid, that is the most frightening word to the energy companies.
	That's their enemy.
	That's something they don't want to hear, though.
	Microgrid.
	Okay, let's see.
	Someone wants to know, how do they protect transformers?
	I was waiting for this question because...
	It's a brilliant invention, really.
	Because when you hear what it is, you'll see why it's so inexpensive and why I would rather protect the transformers than replace the transformers or have backups.
	It's actually so simple that I almost want to drag it out and have a little suspense with it or some music or something because if I say it, it's just like now you have the answer and you can just...
	It's simple, but it's just something called neutral ground blocking devices, and it's really not much more than a surge protector that you put on your computer, and you're just putting them onto these grid systems.
	Now, they're a lot more expensive, but by the amount that the transformer costs, whatever, $100 million, and the protection costs $250,000, and $300,000, 300,000 if you want the spanking model that protects from cyber and EMPs and, you know, from hacking and from physical events as well.
	I'd go for the 300,000 model myself.
	I mean...
	Yeah.
	Might as well.
	Right.
	And right now, you know, we don't know when we're going to get hit.
	So we just don't know when we're going to get hit.
	It could be any day.
	We are taking such a risk.
	And I would just want to caution people.
	They're these kind of made these neutral ground blocking devices.
	Now, let's ask you, if you were making something and you've been in production for, let's say, six years and no one's bought Your device.
	How long are you going to be able to stay in business?
	These energy companies are not forced to use these neutral ground blocking devices, which I would like to do from day one when I step in as Congresswoman.
	I would be enforcing that legislation.
	The grid has to be protected.
	At that price, we can protect it the first day.
	I mean, that is chump change compared to what we spend.
	So not taking this seriously, not protecting the grid, you can see that there's something going on within Congress here.
	And if we don't get some of these neutral ground blocking devices put on the grid as soon as possible and spend some money and give these gentlemen some sales, they're going to go out of business.
	And then...
	There won't even be devices to protect the grid.
	We need to get these devices on the grid and functioning now to make sure there aren't any kinks in them as well.
	So the more that are out there, this is important.
	Every state right now, I urge you, Kerry, you've got a big wide audience, but I urge every state to do what California and I want to do with California is start protecting their grid.
	Because I don't think it's going to happen by the federal government.
	I don't think it's going to happen.
	It'll take too long to happen from Washington down.
	So if we can just enforce it, like what's my state doing?
	And I know a company that was a power company that was bought by the people in Port Townsend, Washington.
	The people there got together and said, we don't like how our energy company is functioning.
	Their bills are too high, their service is terrible.
	It's not reliable, and they're gouging us with these price hikes, and just, we could do better if we owned it ourself.
	So they bought this power company.
	And, you know, today, I spoke with a woman the other day and asked her, how's it going?
	You know, there's still kinks in the system from them owning it, but they are, they're never turning back.
	They want that.
	And they want to protect, because I wanted to ask her, does she have one of these, you know, buying one of these neutral ground blocking devices?
	For her grid, for that area.
	And they should have it.
	It's a cheap little amendment for the amount of security you get.
	So I think this could happen as a statewide thing.
	I see Texas, by the way, is on its own electrical grid.
	I always laugh.
	I said, it's going to secede from the union and protect itself.
	Right.
	And it's going to take, it's looking at this.
	Okay.
	Now, when a person is asking, is an EMP going to happen?
	And I just want to say that we have witnessed Henry Deacon, also known as Arthur Neumann.
	He came out eventually under his own name.
	And he told us...
	I think it was seven...
	Well, now I've been doing Camelot for ten years.
	So he told us like nine years ago that we were definitely going to have an EMP, that it was going to very likely be another one of those 9-11 type events in which...
	It was caused by elements within our government.
	And it would basically take down the grid.
	And he talks in, if you look on Camelot, you can go and you can search in Henry Deacon, read all his, his testimony is all in writing.
	And it was a series of interviews we did with him and we got to know him very well.
	He's someone who worked in black projects and he was told by his superiors, so to speak, in the areas that he worked at the various companies, etc., that we are going to have an EMP. And this is many years ago.
	So look at Janet Reno's testimony when she left office, saying it was guaranteed to happen.
	Watch Patria Patrick's latest video, which is called Offline, and you'll see a number of people there testifying, saying it's not if, it's when.
	And you'll understand that on the one hand, the CME, even Ed Dames talks about CMEs, But those, in theory, are acts of nature.
	However, EMPs are man-made.
	And we have been told at Camelot that this is definitely going to happen at some point.
	It is a weapon of war.
	And as such, it can be used in that way.
	So, Petraea, we don't have a lot of time left and we don't have a lot of questions here.
	I'm wondering if you'd like to say some wrap-up comments and also show your DVD again and give out your website, etc.
	Yes.
	I would like to touch on that, Carrie.
	There have been a few what they call false missiles that exploded low in the air.
	And our military, I don't want to get too deep into this, but people could look it up just from what I'm hinting at here.
	I believe North Korea sent these missiles, and they look like, oh, they were just duds, they were so low in the air, so they don't really have the nuclear bomb, and so let's don't worry about them, and our military doesn't have to worry.
	But if you look at that as a test for sending an EMP over, then it was a success.
	And that's what frightens me.
	Now we're not prepared and protected.
	If you look at our country, you've got Florida down here and you've got the Gulf.
	Well, we're not protected from the Gulf.
	We're protected from like Russia or China.
	We're protected from the East and the West and from possibly the North.
	We're not protected from the South.
	We never thought that anybody was going to do anything.
	At that massive a scale.
	But now that we can send these small EMP devices, perhaps like from a boat that was launched off of a boat in the Gulf, a low-lying missile could get through and over, if it was launched and exploded over Kansas from only about 40 miles up.
	Even from a, like a missile launched from a weather balloon.
	Now, who's going to notice that?
	How are you going to even know that that's a threat?
	These EMPs could be so disguised and so hard to threaten and so below our radar.
	This is tantamount to, it's only a matter of until somebody decides.
	And some of these people are rogue, crazy people.
	That hate the United States.
	And so it doesn't take a whole nation to go, okay, we're going to make war.
	Nobody's going to announce, okay, we're going to make war.
	These are going to be rogue, crazy people, terrorists in the worst sense of the word.
	And that will be...
	The saddest day for the United States.
	And that's why we need to get morally right, we need to get spiritually right, we need to get right with treating our citizens right, right with the way our rights are being stepped on.
	We need to get our Constitution back working for us so that we're proud of who is sitting in that seat in Congress.
	We've got to know they're protecting us.
	We have to know they have our backs.
	And so I say, if you can't find somebody good to vote for, then step up and run yourself because you know yourself better than anyone else.
	So I'll say anybody out here in the 30th District, I'd love to get your vote.
	I needed your support by the June 3rd primary.
	I've got my film offline, which is available on realityzone.net and...
	Or maybe it's.com.
	It's Ed Griffin's website here.
	And let's see what it says on the back.
	And listen, this is a film that you could watch right now.
	You can't...
	We can't be protected too much.
	We just heard every reason why to watch this film.
	I'm sorry.
	It's hard to get it at an angle here.
	No problem.
	We will also put the picture on our website later for people to see.
	It's also available if you go to Petraeapatrick.com.
	Isn't that right?
	Yes, and you know what I would also ask people to do is, I do have a Facebook page, Patria Patrick for Congress, and I will be updating a lot of information up there, and I'm going to be having my film Black Start very soon, which I'd love to have you for a screening to, Carrie, because that one is, again, it's just like you'd think there wouldn't be any more information, but it is.
	There's so much here, it took two films.
	As a matter of fact, I have a third film, which we're just working on now.
	It's just called The EMP, because this is the way the new warfare is going to be fought.
	We're people who understand.
	We want our computers.
	We want our cell phones.
	We want our heat.
	We want our air conditioning.
	We want our bank cards to work.
	And we want our family protected.
	And we deserve that.
	And God bless every one of you.
	Thank you all for listening.
	Carrie Cassidy has such great compassion for all of us as a people.
	I don't know anybody who works harder than Carrie at trying to get out messages and searching and digging and through things and sifting to find the little shafts of wheat that we need.
	And I really thank you so much, Carrie, because you've been a real...
	Great influence in my life and a great friend, and I appreciate your love that you always push my way.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Petraea, so much, and it's a delight to have you on the show, and I'm sure that everyone really appreciates your beautiful energy, and it's lovely that you're running for Congress.
	I think that's very brave of you.
	We are going to To close this down now, and thank you everyone for watching.
	Please do purchase her documentaries and help support her work.
	She's, you know, really a treasure to have.
	And, you know, none of this is simple and none of it is easy.
	So...
	Great job.
	It's lovely to hear all this information about you and learn more about your talents because they are many.
	Thank you again.
	Thanks everyone for listening and we'll be back next week with some interesting guests as well and have a great weekend and please do try to, you know, do something, become an activist in this area of trying to find out how you can protect the grid in your area and how you can protect yourself and your family in this regard because it does appear that something is in the offing at some point in the near future.
	So thank you very much, Petraea, and have a great night.
	Appreciate it.
	God bless.
	Yeah, we're done.
	Well, I'm sorting my taxes.
	Okay, sorry, you can hit those lights.

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