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March 16, 2016 - Project Camelot
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MAXINE TAYLOR - RE ASTROLOGY OF PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES
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Hi everyone, this is Keri Cassidy from Project Camelot and I'm here with Maxine Taylor.
We're going to be talking about the presidential candidates and their astrology charts today and I'm very happy to have Maxine with me.
This should be a fascinating show.
I'm just going to run the poster here so that we've got that so that we label the show as it should be labeled just to start off with.
And, uh, so just let that run for a moment and hopefully the sound at, uh, the audience end is good.
So if there is anyone in the chat, uh, if you would please just give us a signal if there's any sound issue at your end and hopefully, um, it'll, it'll be great.
So welcome, Maxine.
It's lovely to have you here on the show and, um, It's going to be a fascinating discussion.
I'm so glad to be here because I have so much to share.
You know, I've been doing predictions, astrological predictions for years.
What cracks me up is that when I was CNN's first regularly scheduled on-air astrologer, they had me doing political predictions.
Carrie, you know that I'm non-political.
Back then, I never watched the news, I never read a newspaper, and every prediction I made was based on astrology.
Well, here I am doing the very same thing now on my YouTube channel, and I'm so thrilled to be able to do it here with you tonight, because I'm going to be sharing my technique, which I shared with you and other people, for predicting elections, and that is The use of the diurnal chart.
And this is a very, it's kind of a secret and I'm sharing it as much as possible with people because the diurnal shows exactly what is happening in a person's chart on a given day.
For example, if we did the diurnal chart for you today, it will show what really went on, not what the public saw necessarily, but what you personally were going through.
And we can do that sometime if you want, you and I together.
So what I've done is do the charts on each of the candidates that I could get birth times on, as you know.
And in order to predict accurately, the birth time has to be absolutely accurate.
If it's four minutes off, the prediction is one day off.
And this is a wonderful rectification tool.
So, what I would like to do, Keri, is kind of, well, not kind of, I would like to go through everything I've said so far on all of my videos, on YouTube, and put them together in one package right now for you.
Okay.
So that everybody can see this.
Now, I'm going to hold up the diurnal charts, and they should be very easy to understand.
I'm going to start.
Okay, well, let me just say, I don't know, whenever you're ready to do the charts you sent me, the candidate charts, then I'm going to put them on the screen so people will see them.
And that's the best way for them to look at it.
So you can just say so-and-so's chart, and I'll click on it, and we'll do that.
I haven't sent you these.
Okay, so this is different.
Okay.
This is the MS, honey.
This is the truth.
This is the bottom line.
And I've shared it on my YouTube channel, Maxine Taylor Astrologer, but I didn't tie it all up with a bow and that's what I'm going to do for you tonight.
Alright, sounds good.
Okay, so let me explain that I did diurnals.
Let me find a place to put these charts here.
I did diurnals on each of the candidates.
Now, with the candidates narrowed down somewhat, the only candidate for whom I do not have a birth time is John Kasich.
I have a time for everybody else, including Bernie Sanders, which I sent you.
I sent you his chart.
But I did a diurnal, which is based on the exact Day in time on the place in time.
So if you study astrology, as you do, Kerry, you know you have to relocate the chart to the place where the event occurs.
And so when I'm doing the Republican National Convention July 18, 2016 in Cleveland, Ohio, I had to relocate everybody's chart there.
And so this is going to be a little confusing if you're not used to reading a chart.
For those of you who are able to read a chart, it'll be a breeze.
Okay, first of all, this is the diurnal chart for Donald Trump at the Republican National Convention.
Now, the convention runs four days.
They usually announce the candidate, now I could be wrong on this, the third day or the last day.
The third day, and then he takes office, so to speak.
He makes his acceptance speech, or her acceptance speech, the last day.
And so what I've done is start on Tuesday.
And I'm just going to give you what's indicated and interpreted very simply.
And Carrie, of course, you jump in.
On Tuesday, Donald Trump's North Node, which is the point of success, is on the diurnal midheaven.
On Wednesday, his progressed Uranus, rebellion, the unexpected, affects his public image.
Think about that for one minute.
And then on Thursday, the last day of the convention, his natal sun is on the diurnal midheaven.
Now, I did this chart last August.
In view of what we're talking about now, a contested convention, this is very interesting.
On Tuesday, as I said, his north node is on the midheaven, but his south node is on the IC. This is the end of matter.
On Wednesday, his natal moon is on the IC. This does not bode well, because we don't want anything...
Now, let me ask you, isn't it we go in the direction of our south node, the north node is the past, the south node is the future?
Do I have that mixed up?
You have it mixed up.
It's 180 degrees from that.
The south node is the area of loss.
And so with the north node up there, that looks really good.
But with the moon on the IC on Wednesday, when Uranus, the unexpected public image occurs, when I looked at this recently, I thought, well, that could very well be a contested event.
Convention, which is what the Republicans are talking about doing now.
In fact, I said this back in August of 2015.
I didn't know it was going to be a contested convention, and I still don't know it.
However, with him busting loose, I went out on a limb and said, yes, he could run as an independent, in which case his son is still going to be on the Midheaven the next day unless he gets on the jet and goes home.
So let's keep going.
Let's look at Election Day.
And then, of course, we're going to do the inauguration day.
Now, for the chart to be accurate, the planet has to be right on the cusp, and it has to be within one degree of the cusp.
On the election day, on election day, the transiting Venus, which keeps up with the ascendant in this case, is 25 Sagittarius, 43.
The Diurnal Ascendant is 26th Sagittarius 13.
In other words, the Ascendant is pulling away from Venus, except Venus is keeping up with it.
Now, traditionally, if you are running for the highest office in the land, and considering that the votes are usually tally, they complete their tally the day after the election, I'm looking for something up here at the Midheaven saying his career But instead, it's Venus on the Ascendant, which is a very personal, beautiful, loving feeling.
I have seen this in many politicians' charts on Election Day.
They're in the limelight.
They're feeling good.
It doesn't mean they win the election.
So let's look at the inauguration chart, shall we?
Just happened to have it.
Okay.
Once again, nothing on the Midheaven but Mars.
Transiting Mars is at 24 Pisces 18.
The ascendant is 24 Pisces 22.
Wherever Mars is, that's what comes first to you.
And I said, well, on the day of the inauguration, he doesn't have the traditional indications of success in his career.
It's a me, me, me, me, me thing.
Well, in view of the fact that there may be a contested convention, that would certainly explain Mars on the Ascendant.
Now, there are a lot of other things going on in his life that day, and we have to look at every candidate's chart in order to be able to predict.
When I looked at this at first, I said, no, he doesn't have the election.
The more I see him and his temperament and his personality And the fact that there could be a contested convention, and we won't know that until the convention, it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas, okay?
So that's Trump.
Now, the only candidate I do not have is Kasich.
And so let's move on to Ted Cruz.
And, you know, there are...
All kinds of emotions that people have attached to this election.
I heard somebody recently say, it's become a reality TV show.
And I thought, that really describes it perfectly.
Okay.
This is Ted Cruz's chart.
And Carrie, if you like, I will...
Scan these and send these to you so that you can have them for your records.
Ted Cruz at the Republican National Convention.
This is Thursday.
His natal sun and his progressed Venus on Thursday are both on the descendant.
The descendant is the cusp of the seventh house of Open enemies or adversaries.
And so while this looks really lovely, because we want to see things on the angles 1, 4, 7, and 10, the seventh house is your adversary.
It looks good for the other guy, is what this is saying.
So I had to move forward.
This is November 8th.
This is Election Day.
Yes, presidential election.
Once again, if you are going to be running for the highest position in the land, I'm going to be looking for 1, 4, 7, and 10.
1, 4, 7, and 10.
Well, I've got 4.
But Carrie, I don't know if you can see what planet that is.
It's Saturn.
Transiting Saturn.
Okay?
Saturn...
On the fourth cusp of the end of matter does not bode well.
Right.
I would assume that he would have more public.
It would be a big public thing.
Now, on Tuesday, transiting Jupiter is on his second cusp.
And I found that the second house is more than just money.
It's getting what you want, which is great.
On Wednesday, the day after the election, natal Uranus.
It's on the second cusp.
So you could read into that and say, oh, he gets what he wants.
He's running for president.
So let's look at the inauguration chart.
As you can see, this is why it's very difficult to predict.
I know you're going to get a kick out of this one.
Okay.
This is January 20th, 2017.
One, four, seven, ten.
Zip.
Nothing.
Natal Uranus and progressed Uranus on the eleventh cusp.
Now, he's got other things going on in his life that day.
If he's not being inaugurated as president, the guy is busy.
However, his progressed ascendant is on the twelfth cusp of sorrow and sadness.
Right.
Today, his natal son is on the second cusp.
So what?
So I don't see him getting inaugurated.
No, no, not at all.
Now, what was that on the 11th house you have there that he has in the 11th?
Progressed and natal uranus.
Okay, so we're talking about an upset, some sudden change in the area of groups.
Because the 11th and also the 11th has to do with, I think, to some degree, fame, because it has so much to do with your public image.
Your public image is up here.
Your public image is up here.
I think what this is, is his plan.
You know, the 11th house are your hopes and your wishes.
So there's an unsettledness there.
But it could be a surprise party or something for him.
We don't know.
It does have to do with social get-togethers with people, you know, and groups especially.
So, yeah, okay, I see that.
I see that he doesn't really, at least in terms of his astrology, he's not the one.
I think we could say that anyway, just based on sort of the return so far, you might say, but whatever.
See, I don't go by that.
In fact, they confuse me, Carrie.
I looked at the returns last night, and it was like a shuffling of names.
They just kept changing positions, and I thought, I've got my charts, and I knew I was going to be sharing them with you.
Okay, let's talk about Kasich.
Unfortunately, without a birth time for him, I cannot do a diurnal.
Now, some people might say, don't waste your time.
But he's a candidate.
And Kerry, I called his people and I spoke to a lovely guy and I told him what I wanted.
I sent him to my website.
I said, go to MaxineTaylor.com.
Little plug there.
I said, check me out.
Check my credentials out.
I've been an astrologer since 1970.
I just chewed his ear off and said, please get me his birth time.
And he said he would pass it in front of Governor Kasich.
And if the governor was so inclined, he would get back to me.
That was a month ago.
Okay, so let's talk about Hillary now.
And this is very, very interesting.
And again, jump in, Kerry, because we...
Okay, here we go.
The Democratic National Convention.
July 25th, 2016.
Okay.
Thursday is the last day of the convention.
She has her progressed Uranus on the diurnal midheaven.
Remember who else had Uranus on his midheaven?
Trump.
Right.
That's interesting.
Isn't it interesting?
Yeah.
I've got more.
There's something unexpected.
What signs do they have at the top?
Both of them the same sign or a different sign?
Different sign.
For Hillary, her progressed Uranus is in Gemini.
At the top.
Okay.
And what about Trump?
Hang on.
Hang on.
I'm pretty sure it's Gemini also.
I think it's his natal.
Don't go away.
I'll be back.
Oh, shoot.
Oh, I'm looking at the wrong chart.
Here we go.
Gemini.
Gemini.
They're both 19 Gemini on the Midheaven on the first day of the convention.
That's their progress charts.
They are both on the same degree.
Isn't that strange?
No, it's not their progress charts.
It's their diurnal charts.
Oh, alright.
That is unique.
Sorry?
That is unique.
It is.
So they're definitely going to be squaring off.
Well, remember the Republican Convention and the Democratic Convention do not take place In the same city at the same time, and that's why this is so extraordinary.
Oh, all right.
So we're talking about only the convention at this moment.
Absolutely, that's it.
You have to kind of use tunnel vision or you can get all carried away with your astrological information.
You're not talking about the day of the election or the election yet.
No, this is the Democratic National Convention, excuse me, the DNC. Okay.
Start with that, because that's the first thing coming up for both the Republicans and the Democrats.
Okay, so we'll continue with Hillary.
So she's got Gemini on the Midheaven with Uranus conjunct, yes?
On Thursday, her progressed Uranus will be on the Midheaven, which, let's see, it's 1956.
Let's call it 20, Gemini.
On Monday.
So by Thursday, it's going to be...
Well, Richard Hoagland would say that was significant because he's all about 19.5 as being a very significant degree.
Well, that's the start of the convention.
That does not affect her until Thursday.
Remember, only you look at the day in question.
Okay?
What else is shown here?
Her progressed vertex is on her 12th cusp.
The vertex...
Some of you may not know what the vertex is.
This is your karmic role in life.
It's your role with other people.
It's the point over which you have no control.
And you know me, I look at the glasses half full.
I always read the chart favorably.
With a progressed vertex on the 12th house of sorrow and sadness or behind-the-scenes negotiation, this is going to be a vitally important day for her.
We cannot tell what the outcome is from this.
And this could easily be that the Democrats as well cannot come to a clear-cut decision between Bernie and Hillary.
That's what I'm talking about.
Okay, that's interesting.
But okay, that's just that day.
Now what's the rest of the days for Hillary?
Or are we going...
What I've got for Hillary is what I'm doing for every single candidate.
The next day is November 8th, 2016, presidential election.
Okay, we've got first house.
We want 1, 4, 7, and 10 if we can.
Okay, what do we have in first house?
In the first house, we have transiting Saturn and progressed Jupiter on Wednesday.
Saturn, Jupiter.
I'm still looking for a 10th house victory.
Saturn is restriction, Jupiter is expansion.
Saturn is withholding Jupiter is expansion.
Well, yes, except that Saturn is also getting your just rewards if you put in your hard work.
That's what they say.
What I've seen is if you take your responsibility, you grow from it.
Now, I love Jupiter there for her.
I think that's very, very helpful.
Her 12th house, she's got her south node and her transiting Mercury on the 12th cusp.
Now transiting Mercury will keep up with that 12th cusp.
She has her natal north node on the 6th cusp.
So what?
We're looking for angles.
So she does have Saturn and Jupiter.
That doesn't thrill me.
If I were her, I wouldn't be thrilled with that.
So I immediately went to the inauguration chart because that tells it.
And that's how I made my prediction.
But you're not going...
Okay, let me just ask you this, and sorry to interrupt.
You're doing the Wednesday, but you're not doing when the votes are in.
Because nothing showed up on Tuesday.
Tuesday is the election.
The votes come in and are completed on Wednesday.
Wednesday.
Well, are they always in a day later?
Or sometimes they're in two days later?
Yes, they could be.
But there was nothing...
Here, let me go back to that.
I've got the inauguration chart up.
Let me go back.
Okay?
Yes.
And also, you're not talking about her natal chart or anybody's natal chart, and I'm just looking at hers really quickly because she's got Jupiter in the first house in her natal chart.
She also has the south node on the ascendant.
Yes.
But Jupiter, you're talking about Jupiter conjunct Jupiter, Jupiter conjunct progressive Jupiter, no?
No.
No.
The ascendant is Sagittarius.
Her natal ascendant is Scorpio.
We're not looking at the natal chart at all.
We're looking at the diurnal chart.
Yes.
Okay, Jupiter in the progress chart or diurnal chart on Wednesday, the day after the election.
What sign?
Is in what sign?
Is in Sagittarius.
Okay.
Oh, well that's very altruistic.
Jupiter.
And transiting Saturn is in Sag also.
They're both in Sag.
Okay, very good.
And we're not looking at sign, we're looking for conjunctions to the cusps.
So there is no conjunction to any cusp on Election Day except the 12th of Sorrow and the 6th of Work.
Wednesday, the day after.
And when I say day after, I mean it starts at 12.01 a.m.
Right.
That's when she has the Saturn-Jupiter conjunction on her Ascendant.
Ify, so the decision is shown here.
This is the Inauguration Diaryome.
All right, so show us that.
This is something that only advanced astrologers know about.
Natal Mercury on the 9th cusp.
Transiting Mercury on the 11th cusp.
This is the day the President of the United States is sworn in.
This is the most important job in the land.
You have to have 1, 4, 7 and 10.
9 and 11 with Mercury.
Don't get it.
And so what I mentioned, what I said was, doesn't look as if she is going to be inaugurated.
So let's look at Bernie.
And we can't look at Kasich because we don't have his birth time.
And a lot of people have said, well, what does it say in their birth charts?
What's going on in the birth chart?
It's very difficult to predict the outcome of an election simply from the birth chart.
Now, I did predict Biden's election as vice president because at the time of the election, he had transiting Saturn on his midheaven.
He was at the top of his game.
And we had a rough birth time for him.
Okay, here is Bernie.
The Democratic National Convention.
This is the chart for it.
It starts on Monday.
By Thursday, his natal Venus is on the diurnal ascendant.
That looks very, very nice.
Friday, the day after the convention, his transiting Uranus is on his descendant.
Well, the seventh house, the descendant, Is your political adversary.
And that...
We have a birth time for him of 12.27pm.
If it's just a couple of minutes off, that Uranus could be right on the descendant on Thursday, which coincides with Hillary's diurnal for the Democratic National Convention with Uranus on the diurnal midheaven.
So, let's look here.
This is the presidential election.
His progressed Mercury is on the Midheaven.
His progressed Venus is on the Ascendant.
Looks very nice.
This is the day the president is sworn in.
This is the inauguration.
On the midheaven, and I have his progressed vertex and natal sun on the sixth.
So what?
Progressed Venus is 18 Capricorn 14.
Diurnal midheaven, 18 Capricorn 25.
If his birth time is four minutes earlier, transiting Pluto is on his diurnal midheaven.
With Venus on the Midheaven, it is a lovely indication of happiness and success in your career.
It does not necessarily indicate that he will be inaugurated.
What it says is that he will have a terrific public image that day.
Remember that Trump has Mars on his head.
Diurnal Ascendant on the day of the inauguration.
And so I'm going to turn this over to all of the astrologers out there.
You tell me what you think.
We have yet to see what's going to happen at the conventions.
And I've never seen diurnal charts this year.
Unsettled.
Never.
I've done this for years.
When President Obama was re-elected, his diurnal had the progressed nodes on the midheaven and IC and the natal nodes on the ascendant-descendant.
Truly a karmic placement.
Mitt Romney, who he ran against, had nothing In his diurnal chart at all.
It was clear cut.
These are not clear cut, and so we're temporarily on hold.
So what I did, and I think I sent these charts to you, Carrie.
Right.
I wanted to look and see what each of the candidates brings to the table, what they trigger in the United States chart, meaning what they bring to the table.
Now, that's Bernie Sanders' natal chart.
The chart I'm talking about is this chart.
And this is the most recent chart I've done.
I'm going to start with Trump and what he triggers.
In the United States chart.
Okay, so you're not ready for the birth charts yet.
Well, would you like me to do the birth charts?
Well, no, I just don't want to have them on the screen at the wrong time.
So I'm kind of dependent on you telling me which chart to put up.
So you want to talk about a different chart right now?
Yes, I do.
Okay, go ahead.
This is the comparison chart between each candidate and the United States.
And I'm going to start with Trump because it's just so clear to see what he's triggering.
I did this because of the recent riots at his rallies.
I wanted to see why the people were so stirred up.
And here it is.
It's very interesting.
Trump's Sun, North Node, and Uranus, Uranus Rebellion.
North Node, the area of success.
The Sun, the giver of life, sits on Mars.
Mars is passion.
Mars is war.
Mars is anger.
It's in our first house of the people.
The first house determines the political tone of the nation.
And so he fires everybody up.
But he's not the only one who does that.
Hillary and Bernie do also.
Trump has them trumped, though.
He does it more.
He has three planets sitting on Mars.
And when you have Uranus sitting on Mars, that stirs the people up.
Well, Hillary has Uranus on the United States Mars.
But because she brings something different to the table, she doesn't have...
Riots at her rallies.
See, it's what you bring to the table.
Can you back up one second and say what three, you said three planets in his first chart, first house?
Right smack dab on his Mars.
Mars.
Okay, and what are the three planets?
Because I can't...
The Sun, the North Node, and Uranus.
And Uranus is the explosion.
Okay.
Alright, that's fine.
And this is, is this chart his chart or is this chart in the background, is this the United States chart?
The United States chart, not the entire chart, only those planets he triggers.
And they're the colored ones.
The inner wheel is the United States.
The outer wheel is what Trump triggers in the United States.
Okay.
So can we One for, let's say, well, for the other people.
So I guess you're going to go through them, right?
I'll go through them.
I'll go through them.
Trump triggers, his Mercury sits in our second house of money triggering our Sun, Jupiter, and Venus so he can help our finances.
I want to mention that so can Hillary, Bernie, Kasich, and Cruz.
They all trigger our second house.
So all of the candidates are able to To trigger our income, our banks, our money, which is fabulous.
Trump's Saturn, Sirius, Venus, love, Pluto, control or transformation, triggers our third house of communication, correspondence, the way we think, the way we communicate, what we say.
It triggers that.
The only person who triggers The other candidate who triggers the third house is Bernie.
Trump's Mars and Ascendant fall in our fourth house of real estate, of home and family, of domestic issues.
Mars stirs things up, but the Ascendant is the most personal point in the chart so he can help our domestic issues.
His Neptune and Jupiter sit on our Saturn in our fifth house of children and gambling.
And fun.
In fact, all of the candidates trigger our fifth house.
Now, Trump's moon and south node fall in our seventh house of open enemies, of foreign policies, of just our open adversaries.
The south node there indicates he's done this before in past lives.
However, that can be an area of loss because of the south node.
It can drain him.
But he's instinctively drawn to the one-on-one, the deal.
His vertex sits on our Pluto, so he totally transforms our thinking, and there can be an element of control.
Now, his midheaven, which is his public image, functions behind the scenes in the 12th house.
A lot of people would say, with the Midheaven, the PowerPoint of your chart in the 12th house, it's hidden.
Yes, it is.
But let me tell you about the 12th house.
All the candidates have planets in the United States 12th house.
Let me tell you what the 12th house rules and why it makes so much sense.
The 12th house rules our hidden enemies, our prison system, our hospitals, crime, criminals, Immigrants, exiles, spies, bribery, to name a few things.
In other words, the deals are taking place behind the scenes so that they can then be presented and all of the candidates are triggering that in the United States chart.
Every political chart that I've worked on, I shouldn't say every, most of the politicians charts that I've done In comparison with the United States or with our own charts, have a strong 12th house.
And that is the art of the deal.
Here's Hillary.
Her Uranus sits on Mars again.
She triggers our money.
Big domestic influence.
And senior citizens are the fourth house.
Fifth house of fun and children, very strong.
Look at this sixth house.
She's got Jupiter, South Node, Ascendant, Mercury, Venus, Sun.
The sixth house deals with civil servants, deals with the military, with our health, with jobs, with police, with food.
And what it says is that she will help the working people.
Her moon is in our 11th house of Congress, the 11th house of our friends.
Of humanitarian actions.
And her North Node 12th house is promised.
Bernie's Jupiter, abundance, joy, sits on our Mars.
And you can see how his crowds react.
That's the first house.
He helps our money.
He transforms our thinking.
He's got one, two, three planets on the north node in the fifth house on Neptune.
He's got terrific dreams about our children, about fun, about gambling even.
His ascendant is in the sixth house.
And what this says is he too will help our civil servants, our jobs, etc.
He's a humanitarian and his south node and the moon are in our eleventh, but look at here.
Mars, Saturn in the 12th, the art of the deal.
And Uranus is on our ascendant.
His Uranus then stirs people up, triggers rebellion.
And he has been, like Trump in his own way, a big surprise to people.
Cruz, his midheaven is in our second house.
He too helps our money.
South Node in the fourth house, not so good for domestic affairs.
Packed fifth house, fun and games and enjoyment.
Packed sixth house, again, helping civil servants, helping the working people, helping police and firemen.
The sun hidden behind the eighth and mercury in the eighth.
This deals with our debts, our treasurer.
It deals with all kinds of secrets.
His north node is in the 10th house.
The 10th house is our leader.
It's our public image and with the north node up there, it says he will help our public image.
I know these are filled with surprises.
Vertex in the 11th house, he can deal with Congress.
Of course, I know he is involved with Congress.
Saturn in the 12th, the art of the deal.
Nothing on Kasich.
However, I don't have a birth chart for him, but here's what he triggers in the United States chart.
Four planets in the 12th house.
He's got the art of the deal.
Uranus on our sun.
He'll transform.
He'll totally change our money system.
Pluto in the south node in domestic issues.
There's an element of control and perhaps Not as much success with the south node there.
Again, the fifth house fun triggered.
His Mars is on the United States vertex in our sixth house of the military, the armed forces, our jobs, our health.
His moon in the eighth, he deals with other people's money, with taxes, with debts.
Again, north node in the tenth house, he helps our public image internationally.
And so, That's all the details that I can give you.
Now, the birth charts.
Okay, so let's see.
Who do you want to start with first on the birth charts?
Well, let's see.
You've got all of them up there?
Yes.
Well, shall we start with Trump?
Okay, we've got Trump first.
Okay, and...
I cracked up at his chart when I first saw it.
I would have thought he had Mars in the first house, but it's three degrees behind the ascendant.
Carrie, you jump in here too.
Let's start with his tenth house.
With Uranus in the tenth house, he has an unpredictable public image.
It is rebellious.
Uranus is also the awakener, and isn't that what he's doing?
His North Node is in the 10th house as well.
And so his area of success is as a leader.
His Sun is in the 10th house.
The center of our life is the Sun.
It is our solar system.
And with the Sun there, and with a Leo ascendant, a 29 degree Leo ascendant, which means in this lifetime, He's working through the last lesson of being king because we know Leo is great, grand, glorious Leo, every Leo on this planet.
And the sun in the tenth house ruling the ascendant, he absolutely believes he's king.
Actually, see, I would see the Mars in the 12th, even though it's conjunct his ascendant, I would say, yes, he's got this stuff going on in Gemini.
You're saying, you know, he basically, the sun in Gemini in the 10th.
He is a leader, however, he's very mercurial in that sense.
So it would be as a very hard-to-pin-down leader, I would imagine.
I think he would be very versatile, but at the same time, I think that there's a...
I would say, you know, with the Mars in the 12th house, the way it's sort of hanging in there, tendency would be to have a little bit of...
You know, dark stuff back in terms of personal, you know, because you're talking prisons, you're talking some transformational, you're talking sort of retreating from society.
So there's an interesting kind of, I don't know if there's squares between those two houses there, but...
No.
Okay.
But it doesn't look like he's got, read this, you know, I'm looking at this, is that Pluto that's also in the 12th?
Yes, he has Pluto in the 12th, so he has a hidden control issue.
Oh, heavy duty.
And I don't think it's so hidden.
I don't think it's so hidden.
I mean, you look at the chair, and you can see...
Well, no, but it also has to do with something in the past.
So he is working through something in the past.
Interesting, yeah, it is interesting that he's...
You know, this is my take on him, and I know other people have different takes on him, but the funny thing is that with the Sun in Gemini in the 10th, and also Uranus there, I would say he will have a tendency to act like the Joker, you know, in the deck.
And that's kind of what he does.
He does.
Well, the Uranus up there at the top, it's the most highly elevated planet in the chart.
That is the rebel.
And in Gemini, it gives a sense of humor, but it also has no filter when it speaks.
Right.
And look down at the fourth house, Carrie.
It's Sagittarius moon.
And we know that our dear Sagittarian friends cannot keep their foot out of their mouth.
They just blurt it out.
Tell it like it is.
And so he has a Sun-Moon opposition.
He has a Moon-Uranus opposition.
He has a Moon conjunct his South Node.
And this indicates a deep emotional attachment to family, but that his greatest success will come where the North Node is in his 10th house.
Right.
And home.
He's a bit sentimental.
Yeah.
He is.
And also a bit altruistic in his heart of hearts, perhaps.
I think so.
Well, look at the 11th house.
That's the house of the humanitarian.
Venus in the 11th.
Uh-huh.
Well, yes.
And Saturn, conjunct Venus.
Oh, really?
That could be difficult, though.
Well, you know what's so interesting to me?
While that can trigger sadness, depending on the person...
It triggers great loyalty.
They take love seriously, and it's in the sign of cancer.
And we know that his children come first to him.
He's definitely something of a sentimentalist, then.
Yes.
Yes, he is.
He's a very mixed bag.
Yeah, I mean, interesting.
Now, he does have Neptune in the second and Jupiter in the second in Libra.
So that's interesting.
And maybe that's where you get his gifts in terms of money and material possessions, real estate even.
Well, you know what?
If you notice, Jupiter is 17 and a half of Libra.
And the third cusp is 21, so that Jupiter is behind the third cusp.
And Jupiter is optimism, as you know.
And I think that he's got great, grand, glorious, optimistic ideas.
Neptune in the second house is very interesting because that traditionally indicates either a non-materialistic attitude toward money and or loss.
And we know that he's been bankrupt a few times, but that hope springs eternal with that Neptune there.
What do you make of it?
Right.
It also may, you know, may make him a bit secretive with regard to possessions and, you know, like maybe he doesn't share how much he really makes.
And Neptune is always the dreamer.
He's got big dreams in the material world.
Neptune dissolves and Neptune obfuscates.
Think of smoke.
Neptune is smoke.
But it is also the motion picture business.
Yes, I was just going to say, very close to your heart, I know.
Yes, the theater, absolutely.
He might do very well in the movie business.
It's too bad he never went in that direction.
That's true.
Also, look at Jupiter and Neptune, both ruling his eighth house.
Other people's money.
So he gets money from...
Other people.
But I think there is a certain amount of smoke and mirrors as regards his own finances.
I'm saying what you said a little differently.
Yes.
Okay.
Cool.
All right.
Well, that's interesting.
Okay, so as a presidential, I don't know, you know, because in your experience, if you look at his chart, now I'm talking as the person in the Office of Presidents, is this a presidential chart or no?
Hard to say because there have been so many charts that I've looked at over the years.
He has captured the public because they want someone different and he is different.
I think everything that we have just discussed is how he will be as a president and that may be a surprise to people if he is elected.
I'll tell you something.
This is my take, and I know that I'm not an expert.
Okay, I just dabble in this stuff.
Mars and Pluto in the 12th house, to me, he's not a president.
This is a person who is going to work behind the scenes.
And he's working out karma behind the scenes.
He may be doing a lot to do with things.
You know, this actually does fit into my version of the way I think he's running his campaign as well.
You know, I think he's supposed to be playing this role.
I actually believe that he may be put up to this behind the scenes.
He's to draw the fire, and when things go down to the nitty-gritty, he's going to step away.
I don't see him in the presidential seat.
I know some people are, though, and I'm no expert.
I never pretend to.
To predict presidents or any of that sort of thing.
But just based on the natal chart alone, I would just say that.
Very interesting.
What you just said about step away, I'm thinking of the chart of the Republican National Convention with Uranus on the midheaven, the diurnal midheaven.
Very, very interesting.
He is the showman.
He is our...
The entertainer in chief.
Okay, fair enough.
So what's next?
Just put up any chart you want, honey, and we'll go from there because we're going to both talk about them.
All right.
Well, let's do Hillary since we just did Trump.
Oh, that's a great idea.
That's a great idea.
Hillary, you know, I'm sure you know, Carrie, that there were two birth times given for Hillary and Hillary.
The one that works is the one that I sent you, the 802 AM chart.
No, I was going to ask you that exact thing.
I was going to ask you just how accurate is her birth time.
Well, let me tell you how I got this birth time.
Many, many, many, many years ago, I looked it up, there's a wonderful site, Astro Data Bank, and the late Lois Rodden collected birth data on Everybody.
But she didn't just collect it.
She checked it out.
And this was online from Lois Rodden before Hillary became Hillary.
And it was written on her birth certificate.
And it was marked AA. In other words, if birth data is AA, you know it's accurate.
If it's DD, it's dirty data.
And hers was AA, so I knew this was correct.
So you really latched onto Trump's 12th.
Why don't you jump in and talk about Hillary's?
Okay, very interesting.
She has a very interesting chart.
Now, her 10th house has no planets in it.
Which is interesting.
You know, mine doesn't...
I don't have any planets in my 12th either.
I mean, my 10th.
But the thing is, and I know that has everything to do with career, but it is an interesting idea.
Now, she has...
I'm looking closely.
Is it Virgo at the Midheaven?
Yes, honey.
Five degrees, seven minutes of Virgo.
Okay.
Okay.
And that's interesting.
This is my question to you.
What sign is the United States?
The United States is cancer.
And the chart that I use has a seven Gemini ascendant.
There are different charts for the United States floating around.
And, you know, back in 1966 when I started studying astrology, you could take your pick.
But the most common one, the most popular one, is the one I use with Gemini rising.
I personally identify with that chart.
So it works for me.
Okay.
So she has some very interesting things going on here, if this is an accurate chart.
First of all, she has Scorpio in the 12th, and she's got her Sun, Venus, and Mercury all in the 12th, which means she's working behind the scenes secretly a lot.
And she's also working out, I guess, karmic stuff in that way.
She's got Saturn.
Let's see.
We've got in Leo, we've got Pluto, Saturn, and Mars all in the 9th house.
And the ninth house is to do with the higher mind.
So, you know, she should actually be really focused on very good with international affairs, very good with certainly travel and anything to do with The higher mind.
She certainly has some good stuff there.
She will have to be breaking through past in that area.
It looks like she's got...
Am I looking at Uranus in Gemini in the 8th?
Yes, Uranus in 25, Gemini 56, and it's retrograde.
Okay.
Now, this is not a great thing to say, but I'll say it anyway, because actually I have it in my chart, and so did John F. Kennedy.
It does have, some people say that if you have Uranus in the 8th, it can lead to a sudden death.
Well, I have Uranus in the 8th also, and I promise you I'm alive and well.
I'll tell you what I've seen.
So am I, but it's about how you die.
That's what it's about.
We all die.
We all die.
What I've seen is that Uranus in the 8th, Uranus being one of the psychic planets in the 8th house of the psychic 8th house, the detective 8th house, With Uranus there, you and I, this is what you do and this is what I do, Carrie.
The eighth house of the psychic detective who gets to the heart of the matter, who deals with cause rather than effect and explodes it, shares it.
Yes, very, very analytical, will be very analytical.
And that makes for a good astrologer.
It also makes for a wonderful news reporter, as you are.
Okay, what is this node that we've got here?
I'm trying to see.
Does this mean conjunct her descendant?
Would this be the north or the south node?
She has her north node on the seventh cusp, the descendant.
And so her part of greatest success will be helping others, helping her husband.
Would the south node on the ascendant conjunct the ascendant?
I mean, she's got Scorpio on two cusps and Taurus on two cusps.
She is drawn to taking care of herself.
She says, it's my turn.
And karma says, no, no, no.
You've had your turn.
You have to take care of Bill.
You have to do for others.
If you do for yourself, you will be drained, which can create illness, and it will just not work out the way you want it to.
That's what I saw.
Okay, that's very interesting and probably fairly accurate.
Jupiter in Sagittarius in her first house is a very positive setting.
Conjunct the south node.
Whatever Jupiter touches, it expands.
It makes it even more so.
Remember, she has Venus conjunct Mercury, conjunct the ascending, conjunct the south node, conjunct Jupiter.
Very powerful, yes.
But that should be a positive in terms of her personal sort of image of self.
Yes, and very philosophical.
There's a jovial side.
Now, you already very, very accurately, I think, nailed her 12th house.
And so that's what's going on subconsciously, behind the scenes, so to speak.
In her own subconscious, but out front, she is affable.
She is delightful, that Jupiter and Sag, exactly as you said, very philosophical, loves people from other lands, all that good stuff.
Now, keep in mind that the Sun and Pluto, as well as the Sun and Mars, are in mutual reception.
And that empowers both the 12th and the 9th houses.
Okay, uh...
Yeah, it is an interesting chart.
You know, I know something behind the scenes, and I guess it's okay to say this.
We've said it already.
This comes from, you know, because this is Project Camelot you're listening to, okay?
You could be doing this anywhere, Maxine, but you happen to be doing this on my show.
So let me just give you some heads up about what we have heard about Hillary in the election, for what it's worth.
It does not mean it's after it.
Okay, so I'm gonna, you know, sort of lay my cards on the table.
We were told many years ago by Dan Beerish that Hillary was shown her future in the yellow cube and that she would very likely be president in the 2016 elections, that she would win, that she very well maybe killed in office,
What that does and how this chart works into that prediction is interesting because what I see is that and what Dan talked about was the fact that she was going to do it anyway knowing that her life may be threatened.
She will do something altruistic in deciding to run for president and so it's not just about ego contrary to what What people think.
Now, I know there could be clones.
I know we've got lots of scenarios out there.
And I know that this was many years ago.
But I'm going to tell you that that is what the looking glass, the yellow cube that Hillary and all the leaders are given, or were given at a certain point.
It's kind of cheating on your future and seeing what the best timeline is for you.
And then you choose to either follow that or not.
It does appear it's a strange twist of fate because back when he predicted this or told us what they were planning for her, it looked very dim.
She didn't look like she was going to be somebody who would make it to the office of president in the year 2016.
This is a long while ago.
This could be six or more years ago, maybe even eight.
And, and so I'm just saying, this is what we were told.
It's fascinating to me that she has made it this far.
She just didn't, she had an upset of victory over Bernie Sanders, from what I understand, with Florida and a couple other states.
This is where we're headed.
So it is interesting to look at her chart.
It's interesting to look at all of the candidates with this in mind.
Whether it's true, whether it's still accurate, we don't know.
But just for what it's worth.
Fascinating.
Absolutely fascinating.
Yeah.
So, well, we can move to the next person unless you have something more to add.
No, I'd like to move on to Bernie.
Okay.
Good old Bernie.
Here we go.
Okay, dear.
Now, look at that tenth house.
We've got another sun in the tenth.
We've got a sun conjunct north node, conjunct Neptune, conjunct Mercury.
If that doesn't describe him, I don't know what does.
But notice that Bernie has...
His ascendant is 25 Scorpio.
And Hillary's is 22 Scorpio.
He too has Scorpio on his 12th, but he has nothing in his 12th or in his 1st.
Interestingly enough, I did do his progressions because I do traditional astrology on the candidates as well.
His progressed vertex is right on his sun.
Take it away, Carrie.
Give me your input.
Okay, well, offhand, I would say that the 10th house looks good when you first look at it.
Everything's, you know, the three planets in Virgo on the 10th.
But one of those happens to be Neptune.
Yeah.
I don't know how you feel, but this, I think, is a very unstable element to have in your 10th house.
Yeah.
I think that that would indicate, you know, as far as a presidential individual, yeah, I'm not seeing it.
I think that this would make this person just not...
You know, not going to stand by his word, just vacillating.
Mercury and Libra would double that because people with Mercury and Libra, yes, they're interested in balancing the scales.
They want to play both sides, that kind of thing.
This is, I would say, a rather dangerous element to have in a president.
He might have trouble making decisions.
And don't bring it up to them.
The way I look at that Neptune is, remember, wherever Neptune is, there's wishful thinking, there's idealism.
That's right.
There's dreamy.
But if it's in your tenth or your seventh, well, wherever it is, if it's angular, if it's in your first house, you live in make-believe.
You can escape into make-believe.
It doesn't mean you do.
It can give you a very gentle disposition.
In the seventh house, it...
Anybody who sees you one-on-one, everybody who sees you one-on-one sees you differently.
They see you the way they want to see you.
And so with Neptune in the 10th, his public image is that way also.
It can be clouded.
It's very idealistic.
It can be inspired.
But Neptune there, people can build an altar under him because This is the hero, the one who's come to save us.
Although I think they're thinking that of Trump for many in the country.
But that's how I see Neptune.
It's like trying to grab a handful of smoke.
Does that describe it to you?
Yeah, you know, again, the dreamer.
So what it would, you know, in a sense, I know this is going to sound a little cruel, but, you know, that being president is a fantasy.
He's going to play out fantasies in his sort of image of himself and even in his career, perhaps.
He has a very nice placement of Venus in Libra and In the 11th house, so that would mean he would do well with groups, you know, have a lot of friends, that sort of thing.
Well, he's a humanitarian.
He loves people.
You know, 11th house people, if you get anything in your 11th, including the part of fortune, anything you get there, you are a humanitarian and you ask yourself at least once a week, am I crazy or is the world crazy?
Because you're so unique and so different.
And he loves humanity there and treats everybody as his equal with Venus and Libra.
We've seen that.
Okay.
And also we've got, he's a Gemini, got Gemini on the 7th.
He's got Jupiter.
He has Taurus on the 7th, honey.
Okay, on the cusp, but in the house.
Oh, Jupiter.
He's got some Gemini in the house, though.
Yes, excuse me.
I hear you.
So what we're saying here, we've got Uranus in Gemini and Jupiter in Gemini in the seventh, which means that he may be somewhat unconventional in his personal relationships, I would say, and he could be quite expansive in that area.
He's certainly gregarious if he has all this in Gemini.
Uh, Saturn in Taurus, um, right on the seventh cusp, um, of the seventh house, that's, you know, that, I don't know, I would say there was some kind of limitation in terms of his,
um, his growing up and, uh, Possibly some loss and maybe even some problems in terms of relationships, one-on-one relationships in terms of his romance, romantic life partners.
I think that's very perceptive of you.
He has a Saturn-Uranus conjunction, so he hits the brake and the accelerator at the same time.
I know because...
I'm in his karmic group, and so all of us who have Saturn conjunct Uranus, you know, we're traditional rebels, or we're rebellious traditionalists.
It's the combination of the two, and with Saturn in the seventh, other people hold you back, and you want to bust loose from them.
Also, the people in his life are going to be unpredictable.
I mean, sometimes they're going to be very taciturn, very Saturnian, and then they're going to be Uranian.
And that's how he approaches his one-on-one relationships.
I think that Jupiter in the seventh is a blessing there.
Of course, Jupiter is a blessing.
But look at his house.
Carrie, the guy loves to have fun.
Oh, definitely.
It must be very creative with Aries there.
I actually have a fifth house Aries and moon.
And I have to say that, you know, there's something of maybe a hidden performer there.
He's got Mars and the moon.
That's from his past, but it influences him now.
And being Aries there, he wants to be me first.
He's He's an innovator in the area of creativity.
And, you know, so that's interesting.
There's a lot of energy around children, it appears, a positive energy, Moon and Mars.
Oh, they come first.
Yes, Mars is what you put first, and Moon is what you're instinctively drawn to.
And I don't know anything about us kids, but I would agree with you.
They come first.
Yeah, there's definitely energy around that.
And as you said, probably fun-loving.
Yes.
Yes.
He sat down with some host.
I forget who it was, if it was Larry Wilmore.
He's been on all the talk shows.
And they sat down and drank a beer together.
And the audience went wild.
There was something unusual about that.
And I thought...
I can see Bernie sitting down and drinking a beer.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Should we move on to the next?
Yes.
Let's do Cruz.
Okay.
One moment.
Let me see.
Where is he?
Down here.
Okay.
You're going to have fun with this chart.
I know.
Look at that first house, girl.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I mean, the Uranian energy coming off of some of these people is just amazing.
Between Trump and...
With Uranus conjunct the moon, he is total...
Well, first of all, the house position tells the tale.
He's a disguised Aries because that's in his first house, so he's putting himself first, which I think you need to do if you're a politician.
But conjunct Uranus, the moon conjunct Uranus, again, total unpredictability and...
Very unique.
Very, very unique.
Very much the individual.
Can you hear how politically correct I'm being right now?
Yes.
And I love his second house.
Right.
In theory, this guy is a moneymaker.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Probably a real go-getter in the area of finance and certainly material wealth.
Third house Neptune in Sagittarius.
That could be a little problematic.
Altruistic, wants to say the right thing all the time, wants to be really agreeable and think the best of everyone, but by the same token also may not be so trustworthy in terms of his word.
This is just hypothetically, but you know, the third house is communications.
I agree.
Well, he's a dreamer.
He's an idealist.
Remember, Neptune is where you dream.
Neptune is what you worship.
And so he worships his words, his ideas.
He feels inspired.
I'm in Capricorn, though.
He is a pragmatist.
But, Carrie, his sun is in zero degrees, four degrees.
It's barely into Capricorn.
That's a new lesson for him.
That's the way I look at it.
Yeah, no, that's fair enough.
It looks a little cut off, but what do we have that looks like it's retrograding Capricorn in the fourth house?
Mercury.
Oh, so perhaps some loss as a child there.
Maybe, you know, just guessing, maybe to do with the mother or the father.
Let's see.
It is an interesting chart, kind of an unusual guy.
Saturn in the 8th in Taurus.
Yes.
That's an interesting placement.
He's going to be very...
With the heavy second house opposite that, I think he would be quite materialistic and kind of tend to maybe hold on tightly to things.
Maybe some heavy lessons to do with transforming that with Saturn in the 8th.
The thing about Saturn...
Well, think about the eighth.
Anything you have in the eighth house will be transformed in this lifetime.
It will be transmuted because that's the house of death and rebirth.
And Saturn is here.
And in the eighth house of other people's money, you can tie that all in together.
Yeah.
I mean, well, you can see that.
You know, I don't see this guy being, sorry to say, you know, apologies.
I don't see him being president with this chart.
You know, there's also something to be said.
I don't know whether you have this point of view, but in astrology, if you have a lot of planets on the top of the chart, you tend to be doing things out in the world, more in the public.
Whereas if you have a lot of planets in the lower part of the chart, it's a little more personal.
Your life is more centered around kind of you, your personal life, and not such a, you know, out in the world.
So for what it's worth, you know, I just think he's going to be too reclusive as an individual.
He's going to, you know, be someone unusual.
Maybe he's going through some interesting changes in this life.
Pluto, isn't that Pluto in Virgo?
Pluto in Virgo in the 12th conjunct the ascendant.
Right, so that's difficult.
I don't know, because Virgo is exacting and Pluto is destructive, but at the same time it can also be there can be some retribution there.
It sounds, you know, like the first thing I... I'm just saying the first thing that comes to mind that that person could have a background, maybe a prior life as a criminal.
I know it sounds radical, but I get...
Sometimes I get psychic intuitions about things.
Doesn't mean I'm right.
It just, you know, that's what's coming through.
Well, looking at the Pluto on the Ascendant and the Moon in the first house...
Pluto is a roving delegate for mother or grandmother.
Moon is mommy's message.
And so there's a very, very strong maternal influence that he's working through in this lifetime.
When Pluto sits on your ascendant from the 12th, picture somebody who's mommy, let's say in this case, or grandmother.
It's like they're standing behind you with their hands on your shoulders, with their chin on one shoulder, whispering into your ear.
And planet Pluto can be the controller at that point.
And so there's a great deal of control from the maternal side of the family.
And Uranus can jump the moon.
There's the desire to rebel against it.
So there are mixed messages there.
Yeah, there is.
Just again, just in terms of the, you know, wasn't, now correct me if I'm wrong, didn't he have a pretty good election day thing or was it the inauguration day?
One of those charts was quite good for someone in this group.
I think it might have been Cruz.
Let me just look over here again because I put those charts up.
It is kind of funny because when you look, you know, it does change it when you look at the natal chart, I think.
It does.
It does.
Oh, shoot.
I can't put my hands on his chart right now.
That's okay.
We can move along, but keep that in mind and then we can try to grab it, you know, before the end of the show if it's useful.
Well, we've got Kasich and we don't have a birth time on Kasich, so we have to do a solar chart.
Is that what you've got here?
Yes.
Because I've got Kasich's name and I have a different looking kind of chart here.
Yes, I had to draw that in.
And I apologize.
I always kid that my handwriting is a holdover from an Asian incarnation because it's so hard to read.
So I apologize for that.
You know, my Chinese incarnations come through.
I'm still looking.
Well, it's very pretty writing.
Oh, you are dear.
You are dear.
Now, while this is a solar chart, which means we don't know what the Ascendant is or the Midheaven, I have found a solar chart is incredibly accurate.
In the solar chart, of course, The Sun is always in the first house, which says we are all ego-centered, which, of course, is true.
But he's got Jupiter.
Looking at the first house, Carrie, he's got Jupiter conjunct Venus conjunct the Sun.
Well, it's a little wide.
Venus is a little wide.
11 degrees from the Sun, but this brings a very beautiful personality, a very lovely temperament, a sweetness.
When Venus and Jupiter are conjunct your Sun, there's optimism and sweetness.
Taurus, we know, is very determined and never gives up.
So interpret this as a birth chart And what jumps out at you?
And then I'll tell you what jumps out at me.
Okay.
Well, I'm trying to actually, you know, as you said, read your writing.
So, first of all, if you can tell me what I'm looking at, what's in the 10th house there?
The North Node.
The North Node in the 10th house.
Okay.
And what's in the 9th?
In the 9th.
That is the moon that goes from 4 Capricorn to 25 Capricorn.
The reason being we don't have a birth time on him.
So in that 24 hour period on the day he was born, the moon is in Capricorn.
And it's not an easy position for the moon, because the moon is emotional and sensitive, and Capricorn says, stiff upper lip, dude, just be traditional.
And, you know, so that's the moon in his ninth house.
Okay, and the twelfth house, what is this?
Mercury in 28 Aries, which would be conjunct the solar ascendant and Jupiter, which So he's got a quick mind, and he's fast.
His mind is quick with Mercury in Gemini.
Excuse me, in Aries.
Yeah, and probably an investigator of some kind with that kind of placement in the 12th house.
Well, you know what I found, Carrie, is that people with Mercury in the 12th house have to sleep on things to get their answers because the 12th is the subconscious, And Mercury's the conscious mind.
And so in order to get your answer, you've got to literally sleep on it.
Well, maybe, but I also might say that he needs to talk about it, and he's got it in Aries, and Aries is always pushing ahead, the ram.
I don't see something...
It doesn't look so sleepy in that placement.
I would say maybe that's true, but in this case, I think he's spurred on to talk and to investigate.
Might even, you know...
I mean, you know, he's somebody who might be quite aggressive with that placement of Mercury.
He could very well be.
Look at his third.
Look at his third house.
He has Uranus in the third in Cancer.
Very, very interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
You know, Uranus meaning he's...
He's forward-thinking in terms of communication.
What are we seeing in the fourth?
Well, we've got Pluto conjunct the south node.
We've got Pluto at 19 Leo and the south node in 26 Leo.
So there's...
Definitely past karma with strong women, in this case Pluto being mother or grandmother.
I wish I had his birth time so I could move the cusps forward and see what all was going on.
But it's a very strong desire to be in control at home, and yet the control may come from the strong female influence in his life.
Also a push from the past because it is the South Node there, right?
Yes, absolutely.
In other words, wherever the South Node is, is what you have mastered in past lives.
And that's why you're instinctively drawn to it because it's so easy for you to go back to it.
Whereas the North Node is New Territory.
And it's the area of your greatest success.
So I always say the north node is the dragon's head.
The south node is the dragon's tail.
It's head and tail of the same dragon.
So you can't cut the dragon in half.
You want to use both nodes.
Okay, can you tell me what I'm looking at?
It looks like we've got Saturn.
I can't read this.
What do you have in the sixth house?
Saturn retrograde in 8 Libra, 8 Libra 50, and Neptune retrograde in 19 Libra 29.
So he has both Saturn and Neptune in the sixth house.
Interesting.
It makes it, you know, a stickler for details, maybe, with that Mercury over there.
I don't know.
And then Saturn in the 6, also to do with work, kind of maybe a workaholic.
And Neptune...
I don't know, Neptune in the 6th, I mean, there is supposed to be leadership that is associated with the 6th house.
I don't know if you haven't really mentioned that.
That's because leadership is the 10th.
If you have the Sun, or Saturn in this case, in the 6th, you want to be the boss at work.
The 10th house is career, the 6th house is the J-O-B. And so Saturn there...
It gives him hard work, but he insists on being the leader, and that's fine, and he's a very serious leader.
You know, do it my way.
Neptune is the dreamer.
Neptune is the servant in the sixth house.
It wants to serve, and so it wants to be in command at the same time that it wants to do all the little jobs that need to be done.
Saturn says, you know, I'm a leader.
Neptune says, just tell me what you want me to do and I'll do it.
So it's a mixed bag.
Yeah.
Maybe not the best delegator.
Perfectly put.
Okay, but that, you know, that's kind of a presidential thing, isn't it?
You know, just a thought.
Yes.
Now, there is someone, I'm just looking at, we do have a chat room here and have had, you know, an audience with a lot of chatting going on.
Someone says, there's news today, you should do a chart on Paul Ryan.
I haven't heard that news, so I don't know what they're talking about, but does that mean anything to you?
No, it doesn't, except from the standpoint of a brokered company Somebody else mentioned Paul Ryan, and he's already registered as a candidate.
In order to do a chart on him, of course, I would need his minute of birth, the month, day, and year, and the city of birth.
Just as if I were going to do your chart out there, we need your month, day, and year, the city, and the exact time you were born.
If the scuttlebutt If we hear his name a lot, I will see what I can do about getting his birth time.
I've been approached by different people to do the charts on people I've never heard of, but I have heard of Paul Ryan, of course.
So he might be the one they bring forward at the convention.
Okay.
I guess we're going over our time here.
I think people seem to be getting a bit antsy.
Can we move to the next person, I guess?
There is no next person.
We're at...
That's it.
Marco Rubio, who is this...
What is his chart about?
Well, he's no longer a candidate.
Oh, he's not.
Okay, so we don't have to worry about him then.
Yes, he dropped out yesterday.
And I... His birth time, either.
And when I sent you these charts, he was still in the race.
But because he lost Florida, he dropped.
Oh, all right.
Yeah.
So we finished with the charts.
So at this moment, maybe we should do a summing up from you because this is a lot of material and I know that some people are just not that into the details of astrology.
This video will be very useful for people that are into that because we are going over the niceties of these various types of charts and I think you're doing a really good job Can you give us a summation looking over everybody that you've got there?
And I guess down to the nitty gritty, you know, who's likely to be president or you just think it's too close to call?
The two people, and I know I've thrown a lot of information at you.
Thank you all of you for hanging in there.
And if you will stay with me on my YouTube channel, Maxine Taylor Astrologer, I'll keep adding videos.
And Carrie, thank you for giving me the opportunity to share this.
I think just looking at the charts, real simply, the two people who have the inauguration chart possibility are Bernie and Trump.
And I recently said on my first video in August of last year that Trump didn't have it because to be president you wouldn't have such a me me me victory and yet once again when you eliminate the people who don't have the inauguration nailed down you're left with the people who do have something showing in their inauguration Diurnal.
Now, if there's a brokered convention, all bets are off because then we have to deal with the new candidate.
And time will tell.
We'll have to wait until the summer to find out if we have a brokered convention, a contested convention, and if there is going to be then a new candidate thrown into the race.
We will not know that until then.
Like, you mean by a new candidate, you mean a write-in candidate?
Well, if there's a brokered convention, or if the convention is contested, it's because no one person gets the majority, and then it's turned over to the delegates to vote for who they want.
And I'm paraphrasing.
And that's what happens at a brokered...
In other words, they contest...
The election, even if a person, even if the person who gets the most votes is clearly in the lead, another candidate can contest it.
And so what happens then is they bring out, they keep voting, they keep having ballots.
Well, they can bring a new candidate in.
And from what I understand, and you out there may know more, I'm sure know more about this than I do, It's somebody who has been vetted, somebody who has signed up, paid the fee, and so it would probably be someone from the pool of candidates who have dropped out.
And then the delegates would determine who would represent either the Republican Party or the Democratic Party.
And that's the person who will be on the ballot.
Well, if it's a new person, I don't have their chart.
And that's why I can't give you an accurate prediction.
Okay.
Now, just before we wrap up totally here, let me offer to the chat to ask some last minute questions and to put them in all caps, if you don't mind.
And I will ask Maxine on your behalf.
You've got like, let's see, a minute to type your question.
And then we'll go from there.
Is there anything else that you want to add in terms of like when you might do like an update to this type of thing?
Would it be in August or would it be November?
No, no, no.
I'm constantly putting videos on my YouTube channel.
Maxine Taylor Astrologer because, for example, I just compared the candidates to the United States chart.
That was my most recent video that I did just the other day.
I will be marking the candidates and tracking them.
For example, I looked at Trump's chart to see what was going on in his chart this week.
I haven't put this on YouTube, but I'll share it here with you.
It showed that he was modifying his approach.
Modifying his approach.
Not giving up his approach.
And this morning on Good Morning America, I think it was this morning or yesterday morning, one of the people on Good Morning America said, listen, in view of all the riots, are you going to tone down your approach?
And he said something like, well, I will be changing it.
And I thought, well, you say that today.
Let's see if it happens.
But in his chart, it shows him modifying it.
He's modifying it.
So that's what I'll be sharing.
All right.
A couple questions that cropped up here.
It looks like, what do you think of Vedic astrology?
Someone wants to know.
I don't know anything about Vedic astrology because I've spent over 50 years studying Western astrology.
I'm sure it's very valid and in the hands of a qualified practitioner would be awesome.
Okay.
This is an interesting question.
Do you think Hillary Clinton will be indicted based on her charts?
Well, the only charts that I've done are the ones that I've shared with you tonight.
And when I say the charts, I'm talking about the diurnals that show what's going on.
When I first looked at the chart for the Democratic Convention, I was very concerned about Uranus on Hillary's diurnal midheaven.
I was thinking, well, the sudden and unexpected, would they possibly do anything to indict her during the convention?
And that crossed my mind.
As the time approaches, I will be doing videos on YouTube, You can check on my website, MaxineTaylor.com.
You will be hearing from me on a regular basis.
Okay, excellent.
Let me just refresh one more time, just in case there's any crucial questions that came in here.
Someone wants to know, can you suggest learning materials for beginners?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
On my YouTube channel, I have a complete series of classes that I taught on Atlanta Interfaith Broadcasting.
I have a book, four or five, called Now That I've Cast It, What Do I Do With It?
And it's a simple way of learning astrology.
Very, very easy.
Okay, say your website.
MaxineTaylor.com Okay.
And anything else that you would say in terms of, you know, somebody wants to know.
Okay, MaxineTaylor.com.
Have you ever done anything about Nibiru or Planet X? No, I have not.
I got my hands full with the regular guys.
Okay.
All right.
So I think that kind of covers it.
I want to thank everyone for listening.
And Maxine, thank you so much for going to all this work.
Very interesting, certainly.
You know, fascinating stuff.
And let's, you know, let's see what you've got in the near future.
And, you know...
The game is on, as they say, right?
So it would be fascinating to kind of keep tabs with you and to get feedback on any major things that go on in the news.
Maybe you could get in touch with me and then we will bring you back and we'll talk and look at the charts again and see how they work out.
I would love to do that.
It's so great to be able to talk to you because you know astrology and can add your interpretation to what I'm saying.
So absolutely, we will stay in touch, honey.
Excellent.
Thank you for inviting me tonight.
All right.
Absolutely.
And it's been a delight and fascinating.
And everyone have a great night.
I'll be back tomorrow night with another guest and I'll tweet and Facebook all of that.
And that's on my...
I have a new website, by the way, let me say.
So it's the same URL, projectcamelotportal.com.
And you'll see the new site.
And my webmaster has worked very hard.
To help make it easier to find our shows and our videos, etc.
So feel free to give me feedback and let me know what you think of it.
It's a start and it's looking better than it was.
It's a little more organized and we're always working on trying to make things more accessible, more user-friendly, I think is the word.
So thanks for listening and everyone have a great night.
Okay?
Take care.
Bye-bye.
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