Hi everyone, this is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and we're going to start the free energy,
alternative energy panel now and I want to welcome everyone alternative energy panel now and I want to welcome everyone who is in the audience as well as the panel members that we have with us so far and let me say that I'm going to Empty Cash is with us.
and he will be on audio only because of some logistical issues at his end.
And other than that, we're going to have some panel members that will join us probably as the night progresses.
Everyone has the login, so they should be able to get on the show.
Okay, so some of the people that were invited have, like I said, not joined us, and we may have...
We don't need to mute people as we go along depending on the logistical issues that we have.
We've actually never done anything of this magnitude.
In other words, inviting so many people and I will say that I invited actually a number of businesses and including MT Cash as well as John Hutchinson said he might make it.
John Bedini was invited and we thought perhaps he would make it.
And then there are some others as well that have been invited and I'm not sure who will join and who won't.
So that's kind of where we stand at the moment.
As you may have seen on my website, The whole purpose of this sort of discussion is to kind of have an open discussion with the audience to bring forward the issues around free energy and if you go to my website I have a number of articles as well as links to people's work around free energy including empty cash and I have the latest Veterans Today article that talks about empty
cash some background on him And at least from the point of view of Gordon Duff, his experience with some of the Keshe products, and so that we can have a balanced discussion really about free energy.
So that's the objective here, and we want to hear from all sides.
That's great.
We do have somebody moderating the chat for us tonight, Brian, our producer on Project Camelot TV. Thank you, Brian.
And I have to say that if people are, you know, sort of trolls or they're unfriendly or whatever, they will be dropped and they will be banned from the chat as we proceed.
So that's what's happening.
So at this moment, let's start off with a statement from MT Keshe.
And I'm going to hope that this will broadcast properly.
So Keshe, if you're there.
Yes, good morning, good evening to you, as usual, wherever you listen to Kari's program.
Thank you very much for inviting us.
And I hope, for the first time, after years, we can have a proper discussion about energy, not free energy.
Free energy does not exist.
The free energy term was created by those who hijacked the energy discussion.
And hope is the first time.
That's why I came on, because I believe in your work, Kerry.
You are one of the few who is not aligned with any direction to promote or destroy scientists.
And if the discussion goes that way, we stay online.
It's the first time, for years, you have managed to bring some sanity into this work.
Because up to now, it was hijacked, and it's still getting hijacked by people who are paid to hijack for their own purposes.
So, we stay on discussion.
We support the energy discussion, not the free energy, because our technology is not a free energy.
We are a plasma technology.
The way if, as I said in one of my presentation recently, if nuclear is free, if oil is free, then the Plasma Technology is free too.
This is a new type of energy which, due to the understanding more of our own creation, we have come to develop.
We...
When we developed the nuclear, there was a lot of discussion until we built up the nuclear stations.
We supplied and a lot of countries now are getting benefited by it.
Now we have gone further into the nucleus.
Now we understand the plasma itself is a neutron.
The plasma itself is an electron.
And now we are harvesting a free plasma motion for the release of its collection.
So, The plasma technology, the way we set it out, it's a new fuel.
It's not free.
Anybody who speaks about the free energy, those are the ones who never understood, and we know one of the main advocates of this free energy and the control of the energy discussion at the moment is having free drinking prison in Utah.
This whole problem with All the scientists who are working to create, make life easy for the rest of humanity is that people who know nothing about their field of work, they come in to make discussion about it because they are paid to do so.
We've seen this.
We've seen this in the energy section.
For 10 or 15 years, a man who was paid With a group of people to deliberately disqualify, discredit the people who were working all their life to bring comfort to man because he had clandestine activities.
Now he's finished.
Now he's in prison.
Now we manage.
Keshe Foundation was instrumental to put Alan Sterling into prison for pedophilia.
He's in now.
He begot him.
A number of people around him, around what we call the Red Circle, So, after putting these people, we see immediately the same group as they put Alan Sterling up.
The judge, according to what they call Western Magazine, has already been killed because they found everything on him.
Suddenly, out of nowhere, we see two women coming up.
But now, with support of CIA and other intelligence agencies, we have found out these all were connected with Agnes Sterling.
And both are in the child kidnapping.
And a woman who doesn't know the right hand or the left hand, or doesn't even know how to plug an electricity plug into a circuit, now has become a discussion, who is a scam in power generation.
Keshe Foundation is a scam.
Other scientists are a scam.
Ask the lady, does she know how to cook?
She has no clue.
Now she's become the hope of other bunch of pedophiles.
Now we have found how these people work.
They're on the run.
Today, in the Keshe Foundation teaching, we'll show the two people who come up now, founded by Alan Sterling, is the hope of the nation.
She actually runs, according to CIA, An orphanage in Africa supplying children into Europe.
Madame Hope.
Hope of the mothers who give their children to be looked after.
Because in orphanages there are no passports, children are shipped into Europe for Peter Files, where Alan is telling, and they were supporting each other.
And now suddenly she's become an energy guru.
Tell her that she know where the plug is.
And now, the lady who supports her, Suzanne, we have found that she is part of the kidnapping child.
We'll show evidence today in teachings, which we do in Keshe Foundation.
So, let's go back on a proper discussion.
Don't let us be hijacked.
Our technology, Keshe Foundation and a lot of other scientists, we are all correct.
99% of us are correct.
Because we put effort, we show something, We need people of the understanding of our science to become the panelists, not people who are paid to discredit to have someone in their back.
We've seen with a number of scientists.
We have to support the development of science.
And we only see people who become critics are the ones who are paid to act as and be benefited by their We had the Red Circle next to us for 10 years.
We could not grow out of Belgium.
We could not even imagine the man who was sitting next to us was part of Peter Philip Group and at the same time he was paid by showing to support us to destroy us underneath.
We moved out of Belgium in Italy for 3 years.
Now we've seen today I've signed over 7 factories, 8 factories around the world which are going into manufacturing.
How come, till three months ago, Mr.
Alan Sterling, who was given a child, he was happy with it, he wrote an article.
Is this scam?
Is something right with the Keshe Foundation?
Now we know why there was something wrong with the Keshe Foundation.
It's not us.
He has admitted.
Now we know there are more states sending convictions to the courts in Utah.
Maybe he has raped up to 300 children.
300 children!
He used His wiki to lower the children.
So these people who write articles against scientists, is to bring the youngsters in, to find their emails, their addresses, and then sell it to the other people.
That's why, as we hear in what I call a veteran today, the judge was one of the people who was getting benefited.
Now we know Susan is another one.
And we have proof that the hope of the new power supply is not free energy.
She's heavily involved in child trafficking.
CIA tells us that the English people, which were missing in Spain, was trafficked through Morocco, through an organization which hope supports for the King of Belgium.
This is how bad it is.
If you're a panelist, Come with a discussion.
Tell us where there is a need.
Tell us where we have to look for.
Tell us where we are weak that we need to strengthen.
Don't come to criticize.
To put a technology in the market, to put a technology for human rights to benefit takes years of work.
We are not in that business anymore.
We are an energy power supplier.
And secondly, energy is a small part of the Keshe Foundation work.
We've gone into the medical system.
And do you know what is nice?
The people who say it's a scam.
We have given our limitation, our standard, to European laboratories, government laboratories.
They have checked it.
They have tested it for a month and they have issued CE certificate for our materials.
What it does, correction, in development, the energy reduction, our medical equipment, what we submitted has been tested.
We wanted just to have a CE certificate for our health plan or our health plan.
The European Community Health Authorities, they said, no, this directly affects positively in change of Anything which is used for pain.
So, it's a health equipment.
We don't want it to go in the open market just as a tool.
They have certified it in class 2, which means the doctors can recommend it to their patients.
They can prescribe it.
They can actually get paid by the insurance company.
So, anybody who says, organizations like Las Vegas, it means you've got to ask them, can we have your private account who's paying you?
Because, It's not the Keshe Foundation anymore mining.
Energy, the power supplies are getting manufactured now in three countries.
Five factories in the United States are going into production.
This is all people investing.
They've checked their work.
There are people who are setting up.
Two companies are going into production in Taiwan very soon.
One is already signed in China.
More will be signed in China.
And we see 30 factories around the world, this year going to production of the system, which those people who were up to two months ago was a scam.
People are just submitting, the systems are saving energy.
Now we have installed systems in schools for government.
To show how much the companies can save energy.
We see 30% reduction in what they call huge organizations, structures, which they use huge amount of money.
It takes time, it builds up, and we see the reduction.
30-40,000 euros per month saving on bills.
We gave one system to one organization, they came back and said it works.
We used it in the school, and the saving in the school is huge.
We'd like to see what we can do more.
How much we can do.
So, people who speak about free energy, they are the enemies of humanity.
Because this shows, the minute a person uses free energy, means has never had the idea.
This word was promoted by Alan Sterling, because it's the way they could bring children in.
Let's talk about energy.
Alternative energy is a discussion table, not the free energy.
Our technology is a plasma, as I said.
If nuclear is free, if oil is free, so is the plasma.
I'll leave it to you.
All right.
Thank you very much, Keshe, for your statement.
I'm going to put you on mute for a moment while we get some other people on the sort of presentation here.
So one moment, please bear with me while I change systems here.
I want to welcome all our panel members and if you're new to the panel, why don't you introduce yourself at this time.
So let's go across the board.
We've got someone I can see by the name of Robert.
Robert, do you want to introduce yourself and say something briefly about the reason that you wanted to be on the panel?
I'm just on my cell phone but I'm just here to help you and Mr.
Keshe both.
I was actually turned on to Mr.
Keshe through your program and just appreciative and wanted to be here to help both of you guys.
I've had amazing results with the Keshe technology myself.
I really didn't expect it but I've had great results everywhere.
In everything that I've made, I've also been replicating quote-unquote free energy, zero-point energy for years.
I've made HHO. I'm sorry.
I've made models of different motors, HHO and so forth, throughout the years, just knowing that this was something that we would be able to achieve in our lifetime, and so I've been following it closely.
Thank you.
Nadine, can you hear me and can you introduce yourself?
Yes, I can hear you.
Good morning to everybody.
I'm living in Italy and I am following Mr.
Keshe since about 2012 when I first came across.
I listened to his interview which came out, I think it was from 2011.
And it just made immediately sense to me.
He started to talk about how plasma is based on magnetic gravitational fields.
Then he came, he explained also about the solar system.
And then listening to another interview...
At the end of the interview, he had even explained to you why the soul doesn't die.
So it was quite amazing for me because I was always very interested in metaphysics or consciousness or whatever you want to call it.
And that's how I started.
And then I followed and listened to more interviews.
Then the World Peace Treaty came out.
Which is very...
I really thought now we have somebody who has so much knowledge and who can teach to very normal people what normally is only available to...
what is only available to scientists...
And so even housewives can be, let's say, at the forefront of the new sciences.
And so then I started to follow the normal knowledge seekers workshop, which were really amazing because you were inside a classroom and coming to know in each session so...
Much of what is, let's say, resonating for consciousness, for peace, for physics, for...
It is all combined.
It gives you a very whole range of what is...
what has to be connected, because normally scientists, they never spoke how emotion is connected...
With the man's reality, let's say.
And so, I'm very fascinated, although I'm not very much engaged in producing.
I did some coils, I did nano coating, and I made some GANs, I ordered a CO2 kit, But I'm very happy.
I'm very happy about it because it has to be that he hit the nail on its head by the CO2 and the zinc oxide, which our brain is mainly based on, to interact directly with consciousness.
And so I relate very much to the spiritual aspect or to the, let's say, what he always points out is that it is based on magnetic gravitational fields, so it is based on what you give and what you take, and the plasma is giving you what you need at the point of need.
Yeah, that's about it for the moment.
Okay, thank you very much, Nadine.
And let's go on to Jerry, if he is there at this time.
Yeah, I came back through your system that you don't need to go through one.
Okay, that's wonderful.
That makes it a lot easier for me at the other end.
Okay, very good.
So, Jerry, you came back on.
Jerry, have you been able to, are you able to talk now, or how's yourself?
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Awesome.
Great, thank you.
Sorry about that.
Okay, Jerry, why don't you introduce yourself then to the group?
Sure, thank you.
Thank you for having me on.
My name is Jerry Avalos.
I'm the president of a company called Quanta Emissions Technology.
I'm here really to support the science behind this concept of alternative energy, and I love the fact that, Kesh, how you mentioned, free energy is a misnomer.
I couldn't agree more.
And what we have here is an amazing opportunity for home Engineers to really be able to exemplify what's going on here, and what I do professionally is employ a lot of this alternative energy concepts of interacting EM fields, scalar wave information, which does tie into the psychic, or shall we say, consciousness in that regard.
As it relates to tangible physical effects in the quantum world and also that can be observed on the large scale.
So this is really exciting for me to hear so many minds coming together about alternative energy and I'm here to lend support in terms of helping to, you know, lit a fire, help point to other examples of where these concepts are very viable including not only on a personal level but on a professional level.
There's a huge We're pretty lucky in the sense that we have a lot of conversations with pretty major companies about ways that they can become more green, use energy wiser.
So this is something that even larger companies and corporations are having to look at now.
So it's pretty exciting times.
Okay, thanks.
Thanks, Jerry, and I really appreciate that.
So at this moment, what we want to do is really talk about the viability of what you might call a zero-point energy, and some people may wish to refer to it depending on what they're using in different ways.
We do have a question from the audience that Brian, our producer, is helping To field the questions and that would be really great if you continue to do that, Brian.
So they're talking about Keshe technology followers and the foundation.
They're talking about an unedited video with...
Watt meters showing without a doubt that the technology really works for residents.
So does anybody on our panel, Keshe, you can get first chance to respond to that question if you like?
No, this is one of them because, as you know, up to now a lot of people who talk about the alternative energy, they patented the hidden dead system The good thing is when you see these kind of people putting their meters.
It's not a meter anymore.
The people are now receiving electricity bills.
They are posting their electricity bills.
Reduction 20-30% compared to last winter.
Nothing has changed in the house.
People showing 60% reduction in their bills.
These are a reality we are facing.
Because people are building most of these systems.
If we were the manufacturer and we put it out, they say, oh, the system, blah, blah, blah.
But most of these systems we are teaching, people are building it.
We said maybe half a million people will build systems.
The others are not there.
That's why we are putting the factories.
And when we put the factories, we had to give units to be tested.
We are not claiming we can reduce.
We said it's called a power unit.
It means part of the power of the system will help to reduce.
This is what we call nowadays in the auto industry hybrid.
Now we have for the first time introduced the house-home hybrid system.
We provide part of it.
We are developing, we are researching in developing a full power generator.
It will be in the market in the coming time, very shortly.
But these bills, electricity bills, it's not put by us.
It's all over.
People don't want even to show.
We have seen zero.
Meters has been installed in September of last year.
And January of this year, a house with children, with a full family living, zero power.
Zero electricity bill.
We have a copy of it.
So we don't want to be in a position to create false information.
We let the people to build.
Most of these people who show their system, they built it themselves.
People who receive the electricity bill using the MaGrav system of the Keshe Foundation, we know up to now that 30% is average reduction.
So, if it's a 2 kilowatt system, whatever you use, you get 30% reduction.
This is a discussion I had with officials here in Dubai very recently.
Because now we moved into Dubai to set up the Middle East center.
We are moving on to the other countries.
We haven't moved our position.
So, in Dubai, in Emirates, there are companies who I brought system with me and I gave it to them when I arrived eight weeks ago.
They have put it in a school.
They have put it in homes.
And they see, they called us back two weeks ago and said, we see in the school because we wanted to see if it's just for home.
It's a huge place.
It's the size of more or less a polytechnic or a university in the Western world.
They took me to see it.
I said, wow!
People with me said that one single system, such a small thing affecting such a structure, they've seen 20-30% reduction in their electricity bill.
We are talking 115,000 EUR per month electricity bill.
Now we are testing a bigger part of the structure for another part of the school, which is not connected to the main section, which is the cooling system, what they call chillers.
We have connected system now to Chile.
Now we're running for a week.
We've seen immediate 10% reduction.
That is another 100,000 Euro a month electricity bill.
If you can reduce 20% of 100,000, that's 20,000 Euro per month.
That's a quarter of a million reduction.
It's a huge saving.
It's a proportion.
These systems are not kilowatt-based.
You save two kilowatt.
We said these you need to...
you can't load more than two kilowatt on one end to trigger the system to release its plasma.
And we see it.
It's not something that it causes instantly.
In nanocores, otherwise, then it reduces more and more.
We've seen three kilowatt reduction in one day.
3kW reduction in 500kW is not much.
But if you compare it to 3kW, it's a home-use one person totally free.
So if you use 3kW, you get 1kW reduction, about 30% in your bill.
And that 30% in the Western world, if you save 60-70€ per month, that's nearly 1,000€ roughly a year.
And that's one holiday.
That's clothing for the children.
That's food on the table.
And this is what is nice.
We see now in Kenya, a lady scientist.
She's a doctor.
She's an atomic energy doctor who went to Ghana.
Benjamin built the system.
They took it to test it in Ghana, in their home.
The local currency, I said, I can release the email.
She's a very highly valued scientist.
And she used it in her own home to prove it works out.
In January alone, the bill monthly is 5000 local currency.
It's reduced to 100.
She says very simply, now I can look after my children better.
This is where the difference comes.
We don't say we are correct, you have to pay us.
We've seen this situation.
Now it's coming up raising with this woman who calls her false hope, we call her.
She's gone with her stepfather to promote this quantum energy, whatever.
And then, no, we give it free.
But they knew from the beginning it's not working.
And then they charge $300 for consulting for what they put that is not working.
We give you the unit free, but pay us $300 to consult you.
We know it doesn't work.
And then 1,000 Euro.
These are the scams.
These are set up by people like Alan Sterling.
That's how he made money.
Children and scam.
The scam is called the other scam is for scam not to be shown.
This is the beauty of the energy.
And now governments are opening their eyes.
We see all these sites will be taken down one by one by governments.
So, there is no scam.
As the gentleman said, we are all there to participate.
And the thing is, we give the technology to people.
People are doing it at home.
People are testing it at home.
People are making the pen and they see the pain disappearing.
So we don't need to be brainwashed.
We need to consolidate to learn more from each other.
That's why we do our open teaching.
People come and say, oh, we found the easier way.
Oh, there is another alternative way.
And we give everyone a chance.
No organization in the world It has done what the Keshe Foundation is doing.
Science for the people, by the people, promoted and developed by them for the rest.
We don't silence nobody.
If you are a terrorist, we shut you up.
If you are Alan Sterling, which we refuse to give interview because we found out he is a pedophile, it's our right to protect our people.
We see other people who come with the genuine science.
It doesn't mean it has to be ours.
The Keshe Foundation Public Teachings on Tuesday and Thursday has become a ground for people who have an alternative way.
We give you a platform and we have become one of the most powerful scientific organizations worldwide.
We will understand in the next four or six weeks how much we have to come to be part of the structure of a lot of organizations in their ethos, the way they work.
Look at it simply.
Look at the, what do you call it, Tesla unit, Tesla cars.
They opened the patent.
Nobody understood why they said we're opening our patent.
It was very easy.
In one interview I said, if you don't open, we show it's our technology used.
If you look into the Tesla cars, Tesla batteries, the new systems is a replication use of the nanotechnology of the Keshe Foundation.
That's why I said to Tesla, in a very open day, listen to all the communications.
I said, I open your patent.
They never received the patent.
They put the application form in.
They knew it's not going to be accepted because it's in public domain.
And I said, I open it.
And Tesla Group correctly, they did their job.
I respect them.
We are all there to help the humanity.
We all work in one direction, the director of the Tesla Group.
It's fantastic.
These people are, okay, commercially have to satisfy the finances which is put in for them, but they are behaving correct.
These people, most of the people we see in the energy industry, who have gone into commercialization, they have shown they can do, it does bring a change.
And we are not the only ones.
We are one of many, but we give a grant to humanity, all the people to come.
Housewives come on our teaching and tell you what it does.
A barber comes on our teachings, he shows how he can produce the technology to produce cheaper energy, to produce in a way partially part of the energy from our technology, and now he spends his life in Africa to teach.
We don't bring professors to promote.
We make professors.
Professors of life.
And this is a beauty with Keshe.
Any alternative, we give ground to...
Okay.
There seemed to be an interruption with Keshe.
I'm not sure if he...
Keshe?
Yes.
Okay, there was a break-off right there in what you were saying.
So, did you want to wrap up those comments?
Yeah, because you see, we work as a team.
We invite everybody to come in.
Because now we got rid of the most destructive man in the structure of the energy industry.
A man who knew nothing about energy.
He was supported by criminals and he was made the guru of children.
Now he's gone.
Ununderstanding, he's gone for good.
We put him, Keshe Foundation supporters put him into prison.
We gave all the information to FBI. He's gone.
The next one is this false hope, I call it, and we prove that her gang, what are they up to?
They have become another supply chain.
They used to supply children to Ellen Sterling.
Now she supports an orphanage in Africa.
CIA tells us orphanages in Morocco are where most of the children are shipped into Europe because Morocco is accepted by the Belgians.
So please be aware.
Do not give your telephone number.
Do not make any communication, especially with Susan.
Susan asks for people's children's pictures.
This Susan guy, woman, who came supposedly to Belgium, to Italy, to go to our center, the person she asks you when she communicates you, can I have a picture of your daughter, please?
She doesn't ask your son.
We release her communication today.
What a woman who says hello to you, but then she doesn't find a picture of your daughter because the king likes daughters, young girls.
So don't fall for Susan and don't work with There is no hope.
It's actually on her website.
She is supporting orphanage in Morocco.
We've been told by the people in the security services that this orphanage is supplying children.
That's why they were working together.
She brings young children.
You see, when you take a child to orphanage, there is no passport, there is no birth certificate.
So it doesn't exist.
A child which doesn't exist goes in the hand of the hope, Miss Hope.
Please be guided.
Do you see this is important?
No, let me tell you.
This is important because they start making comments about energy.
Who's a scam?
That's what comes in.
Nothing to do with us.
They're making comments about other energy groups, and they call us a scam, where it is another platform for the same people.
At this time, what I don't want to do is talk about other people that may or may not be involved in child pornography.
Yes, they are.
We don't make accusations.
Put it this way.
Keshe Foundation does not make accusations.
But they come to impact us.
They put our name as we are a scam.
I understand, and I appreciate it.
I simply want to say that this platform is to discuss free energy.
Yes, but we don't know who your panelists are.
We don't know who your panelists are.
Well, actually, they are introducing themselves, and they have already introduced themselves, so that's all we have.
We better have a proper panelist.
We know where they come from.
If your panelists are there to support technology, yes, it's correct.
But if your panelists are there to criticize, we should be aware.
Listen, Kerry, because you become now the platform for the correct, what I call, science.
We support you to stay correctly.
We even support you.
We are prepared to support you financially because we understand your position.
But as long as you stay impartial and stay correct.
That is all we are attempting to do at this time.
So at this moment, Kinesh, thank you.
At this moment, let's move on to the next question.
Thank you very much.
And thank you very much for your statement.
Thank you.
If anyone else wants to respond now to the question at hand, which was asked about a home unit, please do speak up now and let me know, otherwise we'll move to the next question.
Anyone?
I guess one thing, I can just jump in real quick.
From a technical standpoint, some of the The numbers that Keshe was sharing are very similar to our device in terms of what we're dealing with as well as the political climate.
And to let people know, we do a lot of fab gas analyzation before and after.
And so a lot of people do want an uninterrupted video of that.
But honestly, it's boring and it takes about 20 minutes.
So if you're asking for a video of some of these processes on a scientific level, if you're prepared to sit and watch something for like 20 minutes, literally do almost nothing, then that's kind of what you're asking for for videos that are uninterrupted.
And now in that sense, and this is why I can see where Mr.
Keshe was explaining how they have the receipts of real-world applications which are very accurate.
In a lot of ways, that's going to beat an uninterrupted video all to anything anyways in terms of proof of concept.
Okay, let me just ask you, Jerry, while you're still on the line here, the person is asking for what they called watt meters that show, I guess, a change.
So it is possible to film a meter and show a change.
Yeah, you can fast forward for when it started and then show the change, yeah?
Absolutely.
And we've done that too.
Time-lapse videos.
There's one that we've done ourselves of a freestanding gas cam being affected by our nanotechnology.
And it took about 20 minutes, 25 minutes, and we just time-lapsed it faster to be about like 8 minutes or something like that or 5 minutes.
So yeah, it's definitely doable, but it also takes time and effort.
So I mean, if it's a business, that means you have to pay for someone to do that, and if it's a foundation, that means you have to find a volunteer to do that, which takes time.
So all these things do factor in more than I think a lot of people realize when there's a professional, sincere effort going on.
Okay, thank you for that.
Is someone else, let's see, Robert, did you want to say something?
Yes, ma'am.
I've got my power bills here so that I can show you guys.
I've kind of blacked out my dress.
Are you able to see it?
It's a bit fuzzy, but I guess, you know, I'm not sure.
Maybe you could tell us what you're trying to show us.
Yes, this is November's bill, power bill.
This is black and white from the company.
I used 2,412 kilowatt hours.
December's bill, and this is for 1,471 kilowatt hours.
And then January's bill, the most recent that I've got at this point, January to February usage, 839 watt-hours.
Now that's not just from one stacker though.
I have built probably 12 or 13 of them total and had them plugged in at different times.
And I didn't believe it until I actually built it and had them going and so just there's some...
Are you saying you built a Cassius machine or a different machine?
What are you saying?
No, Keshe's machine.
Keshe's stacker, the Magrav stacker.
I followed his directions.
October 26th we began.
I took a little more time than some others.
I wanted to get it right.
I didn't plug it in until about mid-November.
But I've also got daily readings that I was taking off the wattmeter.
If anybody really wants to go through that, they can contact me and I can send them pictures.
NewEnergiesInMyDNA at gmail.com Okay, great.
Okay, so at this moment, what I want to do is actually look at a paragraph that I put on my website on an article that is talking about zero-point energy, and I believe Dr.
Tom Vallone, And he talks about basically that this zero point energy can be demonstrated.
It can be demonstrated and has been demonstrated where, you know, with certain bodies where they have been measured and that there is actually A change in the energy,
even when it appears they're at zero and they haven't changed, but there is a noticeable difference in terms of energy.
So I wanted to know if anyone listening or watching or anyone on our panel can reply to the Tom Vallone article on my website.
Since there's been no resounding other comments, the only thing I guess I can say is that what I saw from the article, This is very indicative of these types of alternate energies I mean, like with the different Kesh devices, you're seeing practical applications of really known...
Thermodynamic concepts and a lot of ways it's a type of static system because it doesn't have big engines, you know pistons moving and things like that.
Just like our system is a relatively solid state static kind of generator of sorts that is using very high voltage, low amperage to essentially reciprocate.
In a lot of ways it's just standing there grabbing whatever latent energy is in the environment to have a catalyzing effect.
And so I think that this theme overall seems to be shared throughout all these different disciplines, be it power generation or pollution reduction.
We're still dealing with some kind of force cascade or chain that ultimately we do have to explain on some kind of thermodynamic level.
And it does seem like a census is being made.
Okay, like a sentence here that says, even when you remove all sources of energy and cool a region very close to absolute zero, the zero point, There is still usable energy present in abundance, is what he has written here.
So, what that indicates to me is that we're really talking about, basically, energy from the vacuum.
We're talking about energy from the ether.
No, no.
Can I come in, Cassidy?
Yes, please.
Go ahead.
This is a point of scientific point.
And as a nuclear physicist, and as somebody who works in the world of plasma.
In the world of creation, we have nowhere that is void of magnetic or gravitational fields.
There is nowhere in the universe.
Because there is always a point where the fields go to, get attracted to, Or there's a point where a radius fills for whatever the source is to exist.
So, now we have realized that the GANS is independent of the temperature.
Matter state, when you see you go to minus 273 degrees, is the matter state's motion which comes in balance with this environment at that temperature.
But it's not the overall structure of the work of the Fields of the Universal Condition.
So, even though you go to the minus which is in matter state, the vibration stops.
But it doesn't stop the movement of the Fields from one entity to another.
So, there is nowhere in the Universe that we can find a place to avoid the Magnetic or Gravitational Fields.
So, when you understand this, you understand when Fields move, in moving from A to B, they have to give or gain some energy.
So, in any point in the Universe, there is energy.
It's the misrepresentation of the knowledge which has caused this problem.
Now that we can clearly state it, understand it, now we shouldn't look for this, that even at minus 270 there is energy.
There is energy all the time, when it's Magnetical, Gravitational.
There is nowhere in the Universe which is void of Fields and if you understand that, Then you understand, fields are not static, they are on the move.
When they move, they have to give or gain, and when you do that, that's energy.
So, let's redefine the science then we all understand, the true understanding of it, and then we don't have this discussion.
All the scientists who work in this, they call it zero point, what does it mean?
The way I understand this paper and the people who write about zero point, Change the word zero point to what used to be black hole.
Change it to what we call the principal matter.
It's a center which the field come and go, but in respect to our position, we prefer to call it at the point where we want to look at.
So even in that point, there is movement of fields.
So if you understand that, so there is energy everywhere.
Now, different scientists come and use different parts of it, because this is one of the reasons I support Professor Myles.
Professor Myles has understood, but he speaks about attracting the field.
We call it gravitational field.
Our most famous scientist, I have a lot of respect for, Tesla, he only discovered the magnetical, what is coming out of.
Both speak the same.
One cannot exist without the others.
Is miles the same as Tesla but undervalued?
Or is Tesla partially because he came first and the other one found the other side?
It's a dual motorway.
You can't have all the traffic going one way.
There is another one coming on the other side.
That was the city at the end.
It will be full of cars and nothing coming out of it.
Let's put the science in order.
Then we all understand.
There is energy everywhere in the universe.
And each one of us, scientists, layman who finds a new way to tap into part of that spot which we are interested in.
That's all that matters.
We call it a Plasma.
We can close it, we can separate it.
The other gentleman works with the energy between the two Plasmas.
So, if you understand The scientific terminology, then we all are at ease, we can discuss openly.
None of us is wrong and none of us is right, but we are all there, we are all right, because we understand the new definition.
This technology, the misrepresentation of the science, false science we have accepted, is 90% of the cause of our development, all of us.
We accepted at minus 273, we've been told by illiterates to accept the illiteracy.
And we have, not to show we are stupid, we accepted it.
At minus 270 degree, nothing happens.
Nothing happens from the vibration state standpoint of view of matter state, not above or below matter state, because matter state has a specific gravitational magnetic field position in the spectrum of the whole gravitational magnetic field.
In that point, as minus 270, the motion stops, but not the magnetic field motion.
Physical vibration stops in the view of the man, but the fields still move between the two entity.
And you can still tap into the, you can still get between the electron and the proton in minus 273 and extract as much energy as you do at boiling of 10,000 degrees.
Because the motion is different than the transfer of fields.
Now we understand this.
Let's redefine this false science to the correct science we understand more of.
Maybe in the future we understand more of.
The future scientists will even explain more in detail what we explain now because we are not ready to accept it.
So, if we take this minus 270 degree, understand it's a matter of state.
It's like what Einstein said, the speed of light is a maximum.
Yes, Einstein is correct only in one bit.
In the matter state is the maximum speed.
Not in the full spectrum of the gravitational magnetic field of the Universe.
A matter state is a very small bracket in the whole structure.
So, when you speak about zero energy, zero from which point is a point of reference and where is your zero?
Are you closer to the proton or are you closer to the electron?
Because your zero can be anywhere.
Are you in the center of the Proton?
Are you in the center of Electron?
So, none of our scientists are wrong.
Now that we got rid of the biggest scam, Peace Wiki, now let's speak the true science.
Because now scientists speak.
Now we can bring the people who can do, make, understand my work, make a meter, they show you the bill now.
They use somebody else's work, they show the meter and it works.
We are all right.
None of us is wrong.
Okay, let me ask another question here, Keshe, and thank you for that explanation.
That was wonderful.
There's also another part of this paper which talks about the zero-point energy field loses its drag when the temperature nears zero K, according to Fraunig's research, and he talks about the challenge Where it is possible to extract usable energy from a single heat source, not from a temperature difference, which challenges the first law of thermodynamics.
So we are talking about a challenge to the laws as they are.
No, no, no.
They use your ignorance to manipulate you.
They can't manipulate scientists like us.
Let me explain.
You see, they say when you get to the zero point you lose your kinetic energy because the electron does not move in respect to proton.
They are correct.
Understand the terminology used as a scientific but you don't understand and people jump in it.
Because of the reduction in the motion because you have to understand when you get to minus 270 degrees your Magnetic Fields move into the Universal level and not into the Matter level.
And in the Matter level they do not exist anymore because everything is get tapped into the Universal level.
You're in beyond the limit.
This is a speed limit.
So, what they say?
It comes to zero.
Yes, they are correct.
But understand in which part they are correct?
Because we consider energy as a movement.
When the electron does not move in respect to Proton, the kinetic energy comes to zero.
It's correct.
But, it does not mean the field flow.
If you can tap into the field flow, it's still there.
Nothing has changed.
So, when they speak, they see a zero.
Yeah, there is no motion in respect to electron and a proton.
This is correct.
Only kinetic energy, not the potential energy.
If they tap into the potential energy, they find it's huge.
Okay, so are you saying that the first law of thermodynamics is still correct?
No.
The first law of thermodynamics is refused by many scientists who understand it through physics.
One is quantum.
Is that correct in saying that it is a challenge to the law of thermodynamics, yes?
Yes, correct, because a lot of scientists, I'm not the only one, I never agree with the first law, second law of the thermodynamics, because if you understand what heat is, then you understand, the first thing you understand about true heat, what heat means, heat is the interaction of the field's residual energy.
When you rub your hand, it creates heat.
If you understand that simple thing, immediately you understand the first and second law of thermodynamics is in the bin.
You don't need to be a genius.
So then it becomes the laws of quantum which has been created.
And then on top of it, another false paper which is supported by a lot is a string of fields.
Which is all made by the people who never understood the science, but they wrote something and they found support because it would have given the people who gave the support some evidence.
First Law of Thermodynamic is the most rubbish law which is ever written.
First of all, you have to look at assumptions made in the First and Second Law of Thermodynamic.
Look at the assumptions made in the Quantum.
They are all assumptions.
They made so much assumption that only proves their point of view.
A reality does not make assumptions.
It takes in consideration all interactions.
So, it's finished.
I'm not the only one you read.
There are eminent scientists who understood this.
We had to go through this law of thermodynamic when we start manufacturing the true nuclear reactors.
We show to the thermophysicists, which interact and work within the structure of the nuclear reactors, especially in what we call the fast-flow gases, which is a British system.
We show to the scientists, from a nuclear point of view, it's rubbish.
And then we start restructuring, developing new physics in nuclear.
By rejecting the first and second law of thermodynamics, The gas power nuclear reactors of the Britain were shut down because they were made on the wrong assumption.
And that's why we had a lot of problems because thermophysicists, thermodynamic physicists took over the nuclear.
When the nuclear engineers could show, that's why the gas-cooled reactors in England are getting shut down and they're not reproduced because it was made on a false assumption of thermodynamic.
Very interesting.
I know because I used to be part of this development in the 1980s.
Okay, yes, that's true and very interesting.
I have another question which has to do with ambient energy and a statement that has to do with Tesla and a patent.
It's on, again, on my website, on this article, a separate part, a different part, another article, in which they're talking about Tesla had said that the mechanism of using ambient energy was common knowledge and well known in 1901.
Does anyone have a reaction to that?
Well, I mean, to me, it's a good segue into some of the concepts that Keshe was sharing about thermodynamics and what the people are missing who try to apply it so rigidly is that we're looking at essentially algorithms, sine waves, bandwidths, you know, is another way to kind of put it.
And so then the patent here, when they're talking about that being a known concept, I mean, I think in a lot of ways they might even be talking about potato batteries at that point in time.
It makes a lot of sense in terms of if there was already experimentation into electricity that would generate these patents at this time, that means someone had been working on it already at least a decade or two before that to get somewhere.
And in a lot of ways, these patents also show everyone that the proof of concept question that I've noticed that came up, too, is that a lot of these things, if you put the evolution of these different technologies together, you get, you know, the cache generators, or you get R generators, things like that.
So the proof of concept is in the history, and so things like this patent are examples of The latent potential energy in our environment, and I loved how Kesha you shared how nothing escapes out of magnetic fields.
So yes, there's always some kind of movement available on some bandwidth, and so I think the more that we discuss this and the more it becomes common, the more we are able to progress the overall discussion.
The thing is, if we talk about these patterns, I don't know if you know it or not.
In Iran, there was a bath, a common, what do you call it, common bath where people used to go like a Turkish bath.
For decades and centuries, this bath was run by one candle and people used to go, it was a boiling water but run with one candle.
When British came to Iran, they brought their scientists to see how this thing works and they blow the candle out to see if they can open it.
They started and never started again and the bath went.
Finished.
Scientists in the past tapped into the universal energy but they had to hide it in a different way because people couldn't understand it.
So, their knowledge was much more advanced than what we think.
So, what was the secret behind this candle?
Iran is not the only place.
We have a lot of scientists in Africa.
If you've been to Africa, they tap in all sorts of ways to energy for the healing, but they hide it because then if they show it, they're going to lose their power.
But the pattern never existed.
It's a European way of controlling mind.
But people understood these patterns of energy, how they can be collected and used for centuries.
And different scientists find different elaborations, but human beings are very clever people.
They are very clever beings.
Was in the Turkish bath or the Iranian bath Are you saying that what happened is the candle built up reserves of energy and that's why it continued to...
We don't know.
We haven't unraveled the riddle.
It's not known what happened.
We would love to know as a new we.
Some of us assume it was a nuclear.
Some assume because it's not there for us to assess.
The British engineers destroyed it.
Right.
It was there for centuries.
It was famous that the whole bath runs on one candle.
Did he tap into the geophysics energy?
Geo layers?
We do not know.
Was the candle a way of bringing geo energy up?
And he hid it as a candle because people could relate to a candle.
We don't know how it's done.
It's not the only place.
There are few of these around the world that the scientists have understood.
They've never been in contact in different centuries.
But the energy has been.
We know there are fields, there are places in the world where you can enter the zone and you get different effects.
Be it with the sight, be it with the Cancer, these are all kind of energies which are the parallel energy to you.
What we call now with the new understanding of the Plasma, that now we have the ability to make magnet for anything.
The GANSes are magnet for something else and the other things are for something else.
So now, if you understand this, if you can make a magnet of Let's say, a cancer cell.
Then the two interact.
And one gives and one takes.
And if you can create an environment which is the one you built, that it can give fields to the others, you empty the energy from the cancer cell inside the body of the man.
This is how the process works with what we are doing.
And we see immediate effect.
So, We understand the new understanding which was before we only thought magnet is the only thing which attracts.
Now we can make magnet for anything.
This is the new plasma technology.
That's why we promote it and that's why we do things that look strange and people oppose it because they don't understand what we've done.
So scientists understand this.
You can make magnet for anything.
You have to find out how to do it, how to create the condition of that magnet, then you move energies with it, according to that strength.
So, we have to understand what the scientists did in the past.
Why they can...
now we understand how you can remove pain by putting the hand on somebody.
Because now we made the pen a copy of the hand of the man.
The hand of the man gives energy and takes energy.
We just looked at it as a touch.
No!
Because the body has got gravitational magnetic of the patient and the man who touches it has the same.
Because they are made near enough the same and if they tune The man is prepared to give and the body of the patient is prepared to receive and what he doesn't need to give and then we call it healing, hand healing.
Now we understand the process.
Now we can replicate the process.
So the mystery of the physics which was made on the wrong basis is getting put right by the scientists who understand the whole.
And we are one of them and there are millions of scientists who work in this way.
That's why in China They found a lot of resonance with the Keshe Foundation because they work in that field and they're seeing, they're adding their knowledge to our knowledge and adding part of what we can add to theirs and it's opening a huge Pandora in China.
Because Keshe Foundation Gravitational Magnetic Field Balance works with Dean and Yang.
They understand it in their way.
They add a little bit of our knowledge to their knowledge and it just puts another jigsaw in the picture.
It's complete a little bit more.
It's not fully complete.
We haven't discovered the totality yet.
It'll take millions of years.
Now we start a new science of understanding.
So, all our scientists are correct.
How?
But now the biggest problem, the challenge for scientists like us is to see how ignorant we are to compare to two, three hundred years ago scientists who understood it so earlier.
And we still don't understand what they understood because they showed it for two hundred years.
We are far behind.
Okay.
At this time I would like to go through a couple more questions that come from the chat.
And it looks like someone wants to know when can we purchase it and how much?
What?
I'm not for sale.
Yes, the person needs to put what specifically they're talking about, but one would assume.
You have a products page on your website, don't you, Kash?
Yes, we have the MaGrav for the cars, MaGrav for the house.
We are changing part of it.
We are moving the factory in the coming week.
And we have MaGrav for paint and pads.
And in the next two months, we add maybe another 5 to 10 new items into the product list.
There is a discussion.
Can you give out your website, please?
It's www.keshfoundation.org.
That's K for Kilo, E for Edward, S for Sugar, H for Henry, E for Edward, foundation.org.
Or you can go to our other website, which is SpaceshipInstitute.org.
You should be able to come into the Keshe Foundation.
Or you can go to our teaching section, which is KFSSI.org.
And then, very soon, next few days, you will find 1P1N1R.org, which has become our, what I call the Flagship for Unification.
Okay, let's see.
Someone wants to know is, what about a beta production unit with DIY plans?
Do-it-yourself plans, I guess is what he...
It sounds like this person hasn't been following your work, so I'm not sure.
We don't want to answer questions that have already been answered a long time ago.
A lot of people are asking for DIY units that they want to put it together themselves.
Okay.
We are looking into this in next week or two as part of the products we will submit because a lot of people can make the coil but they can't make the housing.
They are looking for the boxes.
People who are looking for the coils.
We have just unraveled yesterday or two days ago in our teachings, a system which you can feed yourself.
We finished with the energy, the Magrav unit.
Now a combination of Magrav units, if you use it the right way, We are testing that you can feed yourself, you don't need to buy food.
This is part of the Space Technology, not something we are doing as a fantasy, because in Space we can't take food.
So this is the new development, as part of the structure that you manage to tap into the energy to reduce your bill.
Now we're using the same energy, because now we can make the magnets of different things, even with your Emotion, that you can feed yourself.
These products we'll announce in the next few days, You can build a number of these units together and in the house you put it in one corner and you don't need to buy food.
You tap into or you ask through your request of your Emotion, magnetic field of your inner body, which is your Emotion, which now we understand Emotion itself is a magnetic gravitational base.
The same, you make the magnet to your system and in Gravitation you receive and you give.
And we start doing this publicly.
To show it, it started with one man and then he brought five of his friends and family in.
We tested a few days ago.
It's very effective.
And then we put it in public on the Tuesday teaching.
People could see it.
And one of the classes this Knowledge Seeker is part of is about 36 of 37 of them.
Yesterday we started the process that all the 36 now or tune or connect to this unit to feed themselves.
They can taste the food.
We've shown this how it's done before.
We put the orange on top of a cup and the energy, we put CO2 GANS, we put the amino acid GANS, we put the CH3 GANS on the side of the cup and people could drink the water of the cup and taste the orange.
Now I've taken it to explain.
Now people have done it for a few weeks and months.
They understand it works.
Now I explain to them, you are the cup.
Because you carry the Amino Acid in your body, you carry the water in your body, you carry the CH3. Why do you need a cup?
You can tune directly to the orange, but now the orange is the star formation, triple, which you receive what you want.
And people can taste orange, people can taste chocolate.
They are eating their food and the drink have even got people drunk on one of the tests.
So we understand the further progress that we don't need to carry the food in space and This is part of Cashew Air Space Technology, as we call the Spaceship Institute.
So now we're developing a technology where if you want, you can eat.
But if you don't have the money to eat, we can put these systems all over the place.
And people just by thinking...
At the moment you want to go to have a steak, it costs you $100 in a very expensive restaurant.
Now you can have the same steak for less than no penny.
This is the next development which we are teaching, and today we followed up in our teachings on the Knowledge Seekers.
Okay, Keshe, we have several people asking the same question.
Maybe I misunderstand it, but I think you've already demonstrated this to some degree.
But someone is asking about a proof of concept.
Is there somewhere people can go to look at this?
What proof of concept for what?
I suppose for your inventions, I suppose.
You can buy our system and test it from the proof of concept the gentleman just showed you.
You see, these people are people who want everything to be done and as long as I say, show, prove me, we don't need to prove.
We told you, go on the website, go to the blueprint, copy it.
Everybody is doing it.
The guy said he made 12 of them and he says it will reduce from...
2,000-something to 800-something.
That's a proof of concept.
You believe the others.
Secondly, we don't have time.
We have given you.
It's you who have to understand to be able to prove it to yourself.
And that's all it is.
It's past the time.
We have the proof.
We don't need to prove.
We're going to mass production.
That's the proof.
Go in the site and purchase someone and you'll see the difference.
Okay.
Someone...
This is Robert.
I just wanted to say...
There's proof of concept.
I'm sorry.
There's proof of concept all over the internet.
Look at the coke bottles.
Look at the batteries.
It's all over.
I don't understand.
Everybody keeps asking that.
Can I say something, Carrie?
Sure.
The most beautiful thing no scientists have done up to now is putting its design and spending seven days Kash, I think we lost you there.
Yes, can you hear me?
Yes, could you start again?
Yes, I said the people who asked for proof of concept will spend seven days, nearly six, seven hours a day to teach you how to make the system.
This is our pattern open to everybody and we taught it.
No one has ever done this.
Teaching is technology so freely for people to do and people like Robert and others who built it, they connected it, now they see 50% reduction in the electricity bill, whatever that is, in money in the pocket a month.
So, it's you who have to go on the Keshe Foundation website, go on a blueprint, see how it is made, build one for yourself, or if you don't have the knowledge to do it, go to the Keshe Foundation website, go to the shop, buy a unit, get it delivered, and then plug it in and wait according to the process in 2-3 months and see how your electricity bill drops.
The proof of concept is your ignorance in accepting new.
We don't need to prove the only set of factories.
Yes, you know, there is a strange side to this which also involves, you know, orgone, what I call also Kundalini energy, which is actually your own body is proof of concept of what we're talking about.
And it's everywhere in the universe, but people don't realize it.
So there is a person who has a question about something that sort of a well-known person out there who does actually reports on weather in the alternative sector called Dutch Sense.
Someone, he apparently did a video that has power printed on paper and he gets voltage from paper thin non-moving DC generator.
Has anybody on the panel seen this video and are you aware of how this might be working or have any thoughts about it?
I can certainly say that the Hebrew alphabet has been analyzed by Stan Tenen who is quite well known and you can look up his name if you like and I can imagine that yes the idea is you can draw symbols and actually use them to build a machine but go ahead.
Carrie, if I might...
Okay.
Regarding...
Go ahead.
Regarding the symbols, I do very much agree with you because also there is a guy from Canada.
He is heading the spaceship section.
And he...
It was very funny because...
He came up with the periodic table.
He came up with sacred geometry.
And he applies it in the construction of the reactor.
And also there is a very nice grandma.
She has done a reactor with the shape of...
How do you call it?
Let's say Merkabah.
And so it is very much...
You can very much apply also for the building of these systems.
I'm sure of that.
Yes.
Actually...
Jerry, you're dealing with this concept, aren't you, with your holograms?
Yeah, we employ a type of holographic technology, yes.
And in that sense, too, in relation to symbols, our late esteemed colleague, Jeff Harvey, and I analyzed the work of a gentleman who was able to notch electrical conduit lines in and out of the breaker box and see a markup.
Efficacy increase overall.
And so these concepts, what we figured out ultimately, what we kind of termed as structural links, which are types of unified formations of some kind that act as a type of conduit.
And so, to me, it doesn't surprise me when I hear the generator that Nadine was talking about being in the shape of a Merkaba, because if we look at these toroidal Vortex kind of similarities to everyone's technology.
If you think of it more like a three-dimensional circuit board, you know, it makes sense.
So everyone thinks a circuit's just as flat, but ultimately when you have a charge, it's creating an EM field that's going to be a geometry.
And so if we take that into consideration of our designs overall, I'm sure we're going to see a huge bit of efficacy increase Especially as it relates to cohering on a quantum scale with some of these types of symbols.
Because ultimately, that's what sine waves kind of boil down to if we're taking a cross-section of them.
You know, what is a sine wave other than a relative, you know, peak and trough.
And we can turn that on and it looks like an A or a W or an M or whatever you want to do, but it's all relative.
Once we're saying, but at the same time, as I'm sure the Keshe Foundation has found out, too, to be able to do what they have with the food concept.
And I just want to say real quick, it sounds far out there, audience, but it is very true what he's talking about.
It is almost a magnetic attraction effect, and we see this, too, with our technology.
We use, primarily right now, fuel and combustion engines, but we do have early-stage health products, as well, where we see some tremendous Results with this, utilizing these same types of interactions of different fields, which can be represented as some kind of symbol.
So once again, we'll just return back to that concept.
Okay, thank you, Jerry.
That's right.
And Dan Winters also has a product called Therapy.
I mean, it's...
It's pretty widespread, the thought that, like you were talking about Kundalini, and that's kind of where I come from, is the Chinese medicine back in my past.
But I think it's important to mention that sooner or later we won't need all of the technology to get us to the point where we can feed ourselves.
It will be something that we can do internally, and I think Mr.
Keshe could speak on that, and how that's the direction maybe he's taking us.
The point is, we have already explained this in the teachings yesterday, that if you understand why the brain of the man has got two hemispheres and you can adjust the control between one to the other, you can create the same magnetic field condition of any element in the Universe to absorb from the environment to eat.
But at this moment we have to educate Slowly, slowly, but people in the background in the Keshe Foundation, private teachings, are already explained and understand.
We are in that direction.
We have to teach step by step, otherwise we become magicians.
But in reality, in a space, and we have shown it now, last Tuesday, first time in the public, people still need a point of reference of these MaGrav systems that they get energy.
But in reality, When they think of, because they have a blueprint of what they think about food, they already tap into any restaurant you like, which is in the universe.
But we are still partial, semi-belief condition, so we put this MaGrav system as a point of reference, as a food system.
But, as you said, our body and our brain, due to its structure of two halves, you need two different field strength to create the flow.
And if you can do that, and you can absorb the energy between the two, you'll feed yourself in the universe.
You don't need the digestion system.
This is what we are teaching now.
And as part of the teaching today, we started on Tuesday.
I explained that When we start absorbing energy that is not matter-based like the food we eat and the air we breathe, then we lose our digestion system and our breathing system.
And so we work on the gravitational magnetic field strength in the very coming soon.
We estimate within the next 12 months to 18 months a number of people reach this point.
It's part of our normal evolution now that we learn how to tap into the universal energy.
And then, in this way, we feed ourselves as we need.
But, at this moment, we have to put a taste and a smell to it, that people are happy they are receiving something.
But, in the next step, when you are in a space, your child has never had a chelo kebab, or never had a steak, they don't know what you smell or taste, but they learn the fields they need, they absorb through their thoughts, and they give.
And this is part of...
We are taking humanity in that direction.
We've shown the first unit, working unit.
And thousands of people have seen it on the internet in the past few weeks.
If you go to the Keshe Foundation Thought Group, International Thought Group, the system is shown, the gentleman who's using it, the people who used it.
And now we have closely about 50 people, roughly.
There's 37 people from the Keshe Foundation Knowledge Seeker Group.
The ones that are in the background, we don't know how many more students will watch in the part-time side.
And then we have 10 members of the Space Research Institute and the innovation side of the Keshe Foundation.
And then we have 5 people who are actually close to the system, physically being in touch or around it.
So, it's a group of about 50 close.
We are watching how they feel.
And they start writing a data sheet from yesterday.
What they ate, what they wanted, if they received it, or they asked for it, but they didn't get a feel of receiving their energy.
They wanted champagne, but they think they never got it, or they wanted to have a piece of fish and chip, but they thought they never got it.
We don't know if they have or not.
But the only way we see is by excrement, where when you go to toilet, If it reduces, or your urinating changes, which reduces.
So, it means you rely less and less on the matter state, and that's the only indication we see on the emotion, how you feel about it, if you still have energy.
So, we look at the end for the time being, and in that process, a number of people say, oh yes, I can feel it.
I am receiving the chocolates, but we see in what they report, what they have given out.
If you are literally diminished in waste, it means you have tapped into Universal Energy.
And we are putting that, a number of people report that they go less and less to the toilet in the past week, they urinate less because it means they receive the satisfaction, their energy is there, and that energy does not create any waste.
So, that's the indication of it.
We are very advanced in that level.
And then the next step is to withdraw the systems and let people do it through their need and emotion, what they need.
And we'll see the changes.
We'll see new, as I said in my teachings, for the first time, we decide the evolution, not the environment.
By deciding to tap into the universal energy, which means we don't eat, we don't destroy another animal, our emotion becomes in peace with our physicality, and they become more or less one.
And in that process, there is no need for digestion system which we carry to digest other animals, other creatures.
Plants are creatures, fruits are creatures, what we call a lamb, or whatever is a creature which we gave our right to do it on the physical side.
We ignore the Essence of the Emotion.
Now the Emotion could hear the animal.
You could hear the vegetation which to you was nothing.
It's something you're right to eat.
Now, by not consuming food in a physical level, in a matter of state, then our physicality and emotion becomes to one.
Near enough to each other.
And then we find peace.
Because we don't need, we have whatever we need.
And when you get in that level, then you can become man of space.
You can live anywhere, because now you don't rely on food from planet Earth, because your lung will change.
We will see.
We have started this time, as I said it by teaching.
We decide the course of the evolution from last week.
How are we going to change?
We're going to get rid of the digestion by not eating another animal, but we learn how to tap into universal energy.
And the only indication is not, oh, yes, I feel it's a guru.
It doesn't become a religion.
This is a path into space.
So, we see if people go to toilet, if people urinate, and if that reduces means they're not taking any physical matter.
And then when you go to that process, the body automatically goes through its evolution.
Do I need the digestion system?
No more.
Do I need to have teeth to spend so much?
And with this process, We see 90% of the cancers will disappear because 90% of the cancers are in the digestion system, in the belly size, liver cancer, kidney, intestine cancer, pancreas cancer.
These all go because we have no need for them.
The body just shuts down.
Then it gets itself through evolution.
Over time, next 20, 50, 100 years, looks after this.
It's like your, what do you call it?
Your other organs which we don't see any use for and then gradually we'll get rid of it, digest it and then we start living a life without eating another package.
We only take what we need when we need and people who go through this process in past weeks they tell us they have no energy because they don't but once they want energy they can reach it, they can do it.
So it means they can tap straight away in Universal Energy.
We are in that.
We've moved into true space technology now.
It's live.
Today you can go back again on the teaching at Keshe Foundation Knowledge Secure is live and follow it.
And we're going to follow this because now we've come true space technology.
NASA has helped us to understand more about the space but propulsion is finished.
Now we propol ourselves according to the environment we want to be.
Construction of the huge structures for space is over, because now we can create, according to the structure of our understanding, perhaps the same as our skin.
Our skin, the people who follow my work understand.
And the health side of it, is created from interaction of three layers of the GANS, of Plasma Physics, of Plasma Materials.
The interaction of the three gives the illusion of our skin.
Now we understand this, we can create crafts at any size, because we can extract the skin the way we like, to the field interaction.
So, now we enter the true space technology.
In the next few weeks and months, we'll see this coming so rapidly.
Our biggest problem to break into this, or not to break to, To get public to see it was to get rid of Alan Sterling, which he and his supporters created false information.
He's gone.
The Red Circle is very soon going to be arrested for attempted murder and pedophilia.
We know that because we filed it because he made attempt against my child.
We're filing for him.
It's committed that he's done.
So he has already committed himself to act of pedophilia.
Now, The platform is clean for all of us to start learning from each other the true science, and we need reference pointer platforms, and that's why we said, people who stay correct, we support, and that's what I said in my teachings on Tuesday.
We support Kerry Cassidy from now on, in every shape or form, as long as you stay correct.
That the knowledge is like this, open panel, scientists can come and share, We support you.
We financially support you openly that you don't say you're supported by us, because open platform discussion is needed.
This is how we learn.
I can put everything to my forum and to my teaching, then it becomes one-sided.
People from other sites, like Tesla manufacturing, like other space agencies, we need an open, impartial platform.
Yes, absolutely.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
But we got rid of the worm and now we see a second worm which is coming up by the same people.
If you go on the website of this false hope, it's connected to the others.
So we got to get rid of these people publicly, the way we done with Alan Sterling.
And now the true signs can come up.
Okay, now there's another question.
At this time, I'd like to move on to another question.
We are running out of time here for the panel, so we want to get as many audience questions in as possible, if you don't mind.
Here we have a person who is asking if you can design a device that would be able to detect when your system is being used.
Do you understand the question?
It's a little confusing.
Yes, they want, don't want your system is operation, yes.
We have a system which is, we showed it, it's developed by, initially it's a very basic unit by a Japanese engineer or Japanese electrical man and now it's in our innovation center getting tested, it's submitted all the blueprints.
Where we can see or measure magnetic gravitational field from one system to another.
And then you can see if your system receiving more or giving more, and then you can measure it if it's working, if are you receiving or you are giving it.
Because it has to receive to give, it's not one way direction.
So the tools are getting made, it's a new technology, in the next few months and years we'll see a lot of new measurement tools.
Okay.
Somebody says nano-coating is cumbersome.
Is there some way to get this done in bulk or automated?
This is one of the questions.
Yeah.
The thing is you can spend 7,500 euro by system which does all of it for you and make the spring and nano-coat it for you.
Just pick it up and put it in gas.
And if boiling water is cumbersome, I don't know what's the easiest way to do it.
All you need to do, open a box, put some caustic in, put your material and just put some boiling water, more or less your effort.
All the effort you need to do is just to put some water, then I don't know how easy it can be.
Okay, so you're saying...
On nanotechnology, and Mr.
Keshe has taught us how to do it for pennies on the dollar, really, literally.
Can you explain that a little further, Robert?
Yeah, I mean, if you look at, there are companies spending millions of dollars to nanocoat and they've got some amazing ways of doing it.
If you look at the internet, different websites, there's one pot now ways of making nanocoating, which is what Mr.
Keshe basically teaches us.
We don't have to spend tons of money or tons of time or take it to a professional lab to get a working nanocoating on these.
So this is probably the most simple and the cheapest way of doing it, literally.
Okay.
Someone wants to know anti-gravity, how to make an anti-gravity device.
He's talking about Ralph Ring and Otis Carr.
I don't know if you're familiar with either of those men, Keshe?
Yes, but we don't speak, we don't understand what antigravity is, so they have to explain it.
We create positioning where you find magnetic and gravitational fields, interaction between two systems, and when they are comfortable in respect to each other, you find a position.
It's like two magnets.
You put two magnets next to each other where they find they are comfortable, They find their position, they find their distance.
This is called MaGrav positioning.
This is the Magnetical and Gravitational repulsion and attraction between two entities, which is a Plasma, which is like the Sun and the Earth.
Earth creates, I always teach in a simple way, Earth has what you call the exit pole, the North Pole releases fields.
And those fields interact with the Sun.
And they enter the Sun from its entry, which is what we call the South Pole.
And then what comes up from the North Pole of the Sun goes into the South Pole of the Earth, part of it.
And where these four field forces to attraction and repulsion from each one find balance is where the position is made between the distance between the Sun and the Earth.
These two internal field forces for both entities fixed.
You can't change it.
You can't go inside the Earth and change its gravitational magnet.
But within systems we developed, we have the power to control the field.
So our position now is in respect to the Earth.
So we can change our gravitational magnetic field in our system, so we find a position in respect to Earth.
And we have shown this can be done and it's done.
We lift and the flight system is already complete.
So, all it is, you find positioning.
Anti-gravity, again, comes from those people who never understood the true science.
Earth creates both gravity and magnetical.
Magnetical creates the atmosphere.
Gravity is what is hold on to what is created.
It's a magnet.
We never understood what gravity is.
Gravity is a creation of two different fields in the plasma condition in the center of the planet, which their interaction, some of the Plasmas are in similar polarity, they repel each other, they create the atmosphere, and some of the atoms and molecules are in line with each other, of attraction, they come together, so they create the gravity and they create the field, gravitational field of the Earth.
So, now we understand this, we can replicate it in the system, and now, Earth in respect to Sun, becomes Earth in respect to our system, we find our position.
So, we call it MAGRA positioning.
Gravitational, Magnetical, Attraction, Repulsion, of the two entity, in respect to each other, finds the position.
So, anybody who speaks about anti-gravity, I don't know, I haven't seen such a machine yet, which only can work anti, because there is no such a word.
The anti is the only people who, they never understood the whole concept of the Universal motion, now we understand, we can replicate it.
And we see we have a shift.
Very good.
Alright.
So, at the moment, I'm not getting any new questions from the chat.
Is...
Are there any more questions?
I'm going to ask my producer to take another look through to see if there's anything that we might have overlooked.
And in the meanwhile, if there's any panel member that would like to say some closing remarks, we can go around the group and give you each a chance.
Okay?
Someone...
I guess is now asking about medical devices.
Keshe has already mentioned in this interview, again, just as he did in the past, and this is also on the Veterans Today article that's on my website where you'll see the advertisement for this event.
If you go there, you'll see a link to the Veterans Today where Gordon Duff talks about the medical devices and has his experience with them.
Is this person asking where to buy them or what is the actual question?
Go to the Keshe Foundation website.
Sales are there.
The pen and the pad are there.
And in the next few months, more equipment will be put into the website.
The beauty with this is that as, for example, the German Keshe Foundation manufacturing comes in, They produce their product, but you still get a link to the Keshe Foundation.
You can choose now from different factories which produce different things of the Keshe Foundation or the same thing.
You might like the color or the shape of the other one.
It goes with your furniture, but inside the working is the same.
And so, you have an option.
You just go, our, what do you call it, e-commerce should be up in the next coming weeks.
It's been supposed to come back in the past few weeks, but it's getting updated every day.
So, you can go to the Keshe Foundation, go to the document, you can go actually to the bottom of the first page, or go to the shop and buy any equipment you like.
Like the pen or the pad or the power units or the car units.
The car units are showing a lot of positive results, more than what we thought.
We can explain it now.
Some people are reporting to us up to 50% reduction in their fuel consumption.
But it's not that Is, we are putting the fuel, in the case of the car, is that the body of the car, the whole structure is going into the phase of Nano coating and it finds positioning in respect to the car, to the Earth.
This is part of the flying, it's on the Matter-State, it's an Inertia base.
So, when you reduce the weight, you use less fuel.
In this case of the car, It's not an energy producing as such, it's again, it's a MaGrav system, which means creates Magnetic Gravitational positioning, people are reporting easier to drive, the system is much better because there is less pressure.
In a way, if you weighed 400 kilo, now you weigh 350 kilo, so it's easier to stare.
The body seems to be working, everything is getting nano-coated, and partially part of the energy allows the plasma of the fuel to be operating, seems to be in the plasma conditions, like when you put the food in your mouth, it's a matter of state, the minute it enters your indigestion system, it becomes in the plasma state, because now it's in the field of the plasmas of your body.
It seems that by nano-coating, using the fuel, the cylinders gets nano-coated, The fuel getting injected into the system, do not release all their energy, they release some of it into the pistons on the body, and then it's released gradually, so you use less fuel.
It's a combination of two things, reduction in weight, in what you call it, the mass of the system, and partially fuel operating in a totally different environment, because now it's in the nano coated layers.
And we've seen people reporting up to 50% reduction, much better performance, steering and higher speed and energy.
It's all because now you have more, what do you call it, friction with the surface of the, what do you call it, the floor, the ground.
And so you get a better response, you get a better performance.
And the same is with the medical system.
Someone wants to know what your thoughts are on a large-scale magnetic perpetual motion engine.
Is it sustainable?
If it's in a Gansa state, yes.
All the stars work that way.
If it's a combination of matter and a plasma state, yes.
Earth works that way.
The shell, we call the planet, is that way.
So it creates its own matter, plasma state, and this is what we call the inertia of the Earth.
Everything is possible, but we have to understand how we can utilize it.
Okay, and someone wants to know...
I'm sorry, Joseph Newman has a very interesting device as well, if anybody's seen that.
Supposedly perpetual motion, and he's harvesting more power than he's putting into it.
So, just another reference, maybe.
Yeah, no, scientists are wrong.
We are all finding new ways of releasing more energy from our system.
But we have to find out how we release it, because it's not...
It's finding where we convert.
I've written in one of my books, God is the Creator and Man the Converter.
These scientists are all correct, but we've got to see where they do the conversion, and if it's efficient for what we need.
All the scientists, any of them who can show you they can produce energy, they're all correct.
It's for us to understand their way of thinking, where they do the conversion.
Then we find out it's a sweet story for all of us.
We want to use a hydraulic, we go to hydraulic.
We want to use, we have magnets, we use magnets.
Nobody's wrong anymore.
We got rid of the guy who was making everybody wrong and he had no clue about the science of the energy.
All the scientists are correct.
It's us to find out, go into their brain and find out where they tapped in.
And then we can replicate it and they're all correct.
If we can show a system that can produce energy, it's us, it's our ignorance not understanding their way of thinking.
It's not that they are wrong.
The minute somebody says they are wrong, it doesn't work.
It means I'm ignorant so I blame the others to make it easier for me.
Okay.
Someone wants to know if a CME from the Sun could disable your device.
Or is it naturally protected from such interference?
It's a magnetic gravitational field.
It works within it.
It absorbs it.
Don't forget these systems we developed are for space and their energy from the Sun is nothing compared to the pools of fields which you'll encounter in space.
And if you understand the work of the plasma, it becomes the chameleon of the space.
It adapts itself to higher strength of the Plasma when it needs it, and reduces itself.
You see, you cannot be, you cannot lose your life in the space.
We are not becoming another animal.
All we do, we go to higher strength field in our Plasma of our body.
Now that we understand, our body is not a matter of state, even when we touch it, we think it is.
And we understand it's in Ganssen state, which is the Plasma state, we just go to the deeper strength and we evolve to that environment strength.
All our cells instantaneously change.
The way you see in the teachings, you want to fish in chips, you see fish in chips, energy and whatever, automatically your body does the same in Space.
So, we receive it much, much, millions of times, stronger than this, what comes from the Sun.
And, with a new technology, which is not in the Matter-State, it's in the GANS-State, we evolve to it, to confirm our own existence.
Because we add to, and we go lower inside the Plasma, which gives you a higher energy level.
Go back on the teaching, it's all explained in book number 2 and 1.
Okay.
So, again, we've been going now for about almost two hours, and what we would do at this time is we will close this down, and it has been successful, so perhaps we can do this again sometime in the future, and maybe some other people that were invited will actually show up.
Yeah, you see, there is a problem to create confidence, To create, a lot of these scientists have been battered by people who in the background were sitting with people like Alan Sterling.
It needs to build confidence in the scientific world that we are all correct.
It needs for us to explain.
When you come, you don't get attacked.
You become part of adding to the knowledge of man.
You'll find a lot of people who come next time.
When you do it, people understand the battle is gone.
Nobody's wrong.
Because one man had to make everybody wrong that he could do his job.
Now he's gone.
Thanks God.
I hope we get served what is served to the others and the children very soon.
And then we understand we have started a new chapter in the world of science.
We are all equal.
Nobody is wrong.
The wrong is us who don't understand their way of thinking.
They could be making a mistake, but in finding their mistakes we might find a solution.
And if we work in that way, we are all correct, all the scientists.
Invite them on.
We've been so battered by this structure, now we see the false structure.
Now as scientists we can stand up and support people like you.
And other organizations which are correct and actually fish out what I call the ignorance.
And so now, let me explain to you something very interesting.
It's important for us to understand.
What is coming from, what is coming out of the security services to us?
Very interesting point.
Alan Sterling, by trying to go and show, he travels to somewhere to show a new technology, he was planning a child in that destination to abuse.
The technology was a decoy.
So now you understand how these things have been set up.
If he enjoyed the child, the technology would have been praised.
And if he didn't enjoy the child, everything was wrong with the technology.
We got rid of these idiots.
We got rid of these criminals.
Red circle is another one.
And this Hope woman and Susan are the others.
We show now how they are.
We show it today in our teaching.
So, let's bring science back to insanity.
Next time, when you put a panel, more people come, because now we've got confidence that we can all speak correctly, without accusing.
But, it's our responsibility to understand their point of view.
If you understand their point of view, maybe together we can add more knowledge in these kind of presentations to the humanity.
Okay, thank you for that.
So, can we go around the group?
Let's start with Jerry, some closing comments.
Sure.
Thanks, Kerry.
And thanks again for having me on.
And thank you once again, Mr.
Keshe, for sharing your insight.
There's some beautifully put scientific principles there shared.
And thanks, everyone, for listening.
Just in closing, I just want to say that it's really fun seeing everyone getting a census of these different scientific terms and going forward into a new understanding of energy.
And my company does something that's very complementary to what the Keshe Foundation does, I guess, relative to computer components.
They're like magnetic hard drives and more like solid-state hard drives.
Let's get together.
Yeah, definitely.
Let's get together.
Yeah, absolutely.
Contact my webmaster.
Let's get together and see if we can add together in the knowledge.
Absolutely, that would be fun.
I would love to share some data.
It would be great.
Please, contact my webmaster and we get together, we meet and we put and we, in teachings, we add to the knowledge of humanity.
Great, great.
Thank you for the invitation.
Definitely take you up on that.
So yeah, thanks again for everyone for having me on and Kerry once again for doing a great job.
And my website is quantaemissions.com if you're looking for what we're doing.
So thank you.
Okay, thank you very much Jerry for joining us.
Robert, why don't you give some closing remarks now?
Yes, ma'am.
I'd like to just kind of take it back to the Kundalini remark that you had mentioned before.
By the way, I really liked your last summation of your interview with Mr.
Keshe.
Thank you very much for that.
I also want to mention that Carrie and technology and things like that Mr.
Keshe is doing, it's just too important to lose, so please help support her, you guys.
But really the essence of these teachings are older than written history.
If you think about the teachings that we did not lose through the years like meridian flow, chakras, things like that.
This has been around forever and people understood it before we ever came up with electricity to to be so greedy with and a side note is that the electricity part of this the power amplification is only a side Note to what Mr.
Keshe is really trying to do.
And so I would ask everybody, if you haven't made a replication of it, please just at least give it a chance.
And he gives it all for free.
There's tons of people out there ready and willing to help.
Just contact me on my Facebook page.
Anybody who's really into it is more than happy to give because we understand that In giving, we receive ten times more.
And that's something that is not gained through the Keshe Foundation, but is solidified each time you listen to the teachings because of the way that Mr.
Keshe has done it.
And so I just want to thank you so much, Kerry.
I think it's really important that you're doing this.
And I hope that we can do it again.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much, Kerry.
Robert, is it possible for you to join us in the teaching this afternoon, or in the Knowledge Seekers, to show your bills?
Because you've done something which, in a way, people can learn what they have to do and the way to do it.
Because we need to re-polish some of the work.
And I thank you for being so open to put your information in public.
This is the beauty that now we are all working together.
And we need the independent platforms like you, Kerry, to open the mind in a new way.
Okay, thank you very much.
I'm always there in the background, Mr.
Keshe.
Thank you very much.
Please come forward.
Yes, I will.
And your show is the way that I found out about Mr.
Keshe and what he was doing, Carrie, so I'd like to thank you again.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Very kind remarks.
Thank you so much.
Nadine, would you like to have some closing remarks?
Okay, I think Nadine has to unmute herself. I think Nadine has to unmute herself.
See if you can manage that.
I have so.
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me?
Go ahead, please.
Go ahead.
I want to put a little appetizer out there for you especially, Carrie, because I think this is what we would call the science of the ancient ones.
And it is really not so difficult as it seems.
Because I think in about two hours you could explain easily what a plasma is.
And then in two more hours you can explain about the nanocoating process.
And in two more hours you can explain the GANS, how you make the GANS. And then you can show where you can apply these things.
You can make your own paint pad or your own paint pen.
Or you can even create little symbolistic art crafts.
Which may be like a fortune bring it just for you or for somebody you want to give it.
And then another thing I think is very important that we have to learn some new vocabulary, which is what GANs are, what MAGRAFs are, what plasma is, and principle matter, transition matter, and matter.
And then we have all the same base, which now you would, as you last time said in the interview with Mr.
Keshe, sometimes we do not speak the same language.
Perhaps I can understand what you mean and I can see it in the science Mr.
Keshe explains us.
So it's very, in a way, it's very easy to, in a very short time, to catch up.
And then there's another thing I wanted to tell you because of the nano-coating.
Mr Keshe said when the nano-coating is, you create some sort of a crystalline form on the surface and Other people, they also use crystals, and then they mix the crystal powder with the GANs,
and so I think it might become like, how you say, a super, like a memory bank.
So even if, and you We slowly go also into perhaps understanding the link to the...
when somebody says that the universe is a hologram.
That's what I wanted to add.
And I thank you very much, Kerry.
You are doing a great job and you...
I love your topics.
They are very interesting and very easily to understand for me, I think.
And Mr.
Keshe, I thank you very much.
I have a great, great respect for you and you are a very wise teacher.
And that's what we in Italian, we would call a maestro because you are also an artistic person.
I think you are what we would also call an alchemist of highest order.
And so we are very, very happy to have you with us in these times.
Thank you very much all.
Okay, thank you very much, Nadine, for joining us and sharing your understanding with all of us.
So I think we've covered everyone in the group here.
I don't think I missed anyone.
Is there, let's see, Brian, our producer, has been with us the whole time in case.
Brian, is there any comments you'd like to make before we close this down?
Okay, the answer is no.
Okay, so thank you everyone.
Thank you Mr.
Keshe for coming on board here and being so open and willing to try this new experiment with us.
It's great to have this chance to bring people together to talk about things and to help people to understand And as I say, we can possibly do this kind of thing again in the future.
So thank you again everyone for listening and for watching and have a good night.
Tomorrow night I am interviewing Richard Allen Miller and Matt Stein in a pre-event interview and we'll be talking about preparedness and critical thinking.
That is going to be tomorrow night at 7 p.m.
and the same place you are tonight, only a different link.
So thanks again for listening and good night, everyone.
Thank you very much, Carrie.
Thank you very much, Carrie.
Hey, I'd like to see Dan Winters in the next one.
I think he could add a lot.
Anybody knows him?
Actually, he was invited to this one, but I don't think he knows me, so perhaps he didn't pay attention to my invitation.
So, yes, I'm inviting him for an interview directly, one-on-one as well.
So I'm very interested in his work, and I have, you know, seen a fair amount of his work over the few years.
So he is welcome, absolutely.
And if you know him and can contact him on our behalf, that would be great.
Yeah, maybe one of the listeners do, and I'll see what I can do about that, too.