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Dec. 17, 2015 - Project Camelot
02:40:46
KAMERAN FAILY INTERVIEW III : ISIS & EVENTS TO COME : PLANET X
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Hello, everyone.
This is Kerry Cassidy, and I'm here with Cameron Faley, and we're about to go live with our discussion today.
We're going to be talking about ISIS and events to come and that's a pretty general title and that is very purposeful.
So thank you for tuning in to us and we will have a chat room on the side here and for anyone who wants to ask their questions we will try to get to them at a certain point in this discussion.
Greetings from London.
Excellent.
Just let me ask you, because I'm on my way there in a few days, how cold is it over there?
I assume it's going to snow, but it will not snow.
It won't snow?
No, it's going to be cold and frosty, so bring in your winter clothes as much as you can.
Okay.
And I'm going to check with the chat now.
This is something that I do to make sure that our sound is good and make sure everything is okay.
And then they will tell me if we're having an issue because some sound problems I cannot hear, but the audience hears.
So that's why we have to do that.
It looks like we sound good.
So, at this moment, welcome, and it's lovely to see your face and, you know, to have such a good connection with you here.
It's not always that, you know, some of the picture quality is not always great, and yours is excellent, so thank you for that.
Thank you.
So, let's go from here and really talk about the events that have been just happening here and obviously what I'm referring to is what is supposedly and I question this but Turkey sending troops into Iraq and what the philosophy is behind that move if indeed they have done that and I'm not sure I didn't look
at the news this morning so I don't know if they've withdrawn There are troops yet.
I did hear that they had some kind of discussion and they refused to remove them.
I'm finding it very strange because they didn't put troops, from what I understand, in Syria, but they put them in Iraq.
So can you enlighten us as to what you think is going on?
And I know there's a great deal of background with regard to ISIS that I think your perspective as occurred Actually, I guess I'm jumping ahead of myself because we should introduce you for those who will watch this and don't know who you are.
I've done two interviews with you already and this will be my third one, so I do encourage anyone who's watching this to check out my two other interviews.
But give yourself a quick background and then we can launch into the subject I just sort of described.
My name is Cameron Faily.
I was originally born in Baghdad.
I and my family mostly moved to London during the Iran-Iraq war.
For 30 years, more than 30 years after we left, we worked against the Iraqi Saddam regime.
Afterwards, we were able to continually support the Karaki governments as they come in.
Our family has very deep roots in the whole region.
We are continuously supporting every party to be able to talk to each other.
At the same time, on a personal level, I'm dealing with very high positions within Ruling across the planet.
Let's put it this way.
Whether it's financial or political or other stuff, my role is to advise.
I'm an advisor.
And the main purpose of me being advising is to, as much as possible, to bring coordination and peace in the whole process.
Sometimes the peace is not comfortable to certain people, but what's important is that the human experience continues in its evolutionary progress of experiencing choices.
And my role has always been to make sure choice is always there.
So that's where I come from.
My role is to facilitate continuous choice.
Okay, Cameron, I want to, just for the people that are listening to this, and thank you for that, I do want to say, if you could be a bit more specific in terms of your exact background, as we've done in the very early interview, where you say, you know, the number of degrees you have, this sort of thing, and also your financial, actual work in the area of finance, so that people understand that you really do know what you're talking about in that world.
Yes, when I was 19, 20, I finished my physics degree in Manchester University.
I've also done postgraduate studies in astrophysics and in Green Mary University of London.
I have also attended most of the education necessary to be a religious scholar within the religious community.
I am...
From the Shiite sect, I have a lot of knowledge and done a lot of teaching in theology and bringing closer the understanding between the Islamic and the Christian and Jewish religions and groups.
Meanwhile, working in politics, advising the governments for the last 10 years, In setting up financial institutions, assisting them, bringing large banks into the country, helping in the election process, bringing in the credit rating for the country.
Meanwhile, on the financial, I have been working in the majority of investment banks, UBS, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, you name it.
And also assisted to open large banks in Iraq for that sense.
Dealt a lot in the back offices of the financial institutions.
Meanwhile, I'm also assisting actively those who matter within the financial world.
In trying to stabilize the whole financial system.
Okay, and you also are very astute when you say you've worked in the financial area in terms of the computer technology, right?
Yes, there isn't a computer technology used out there in the financial system that I do not know about or have had my hand in.
I can reconstruct the whole financial system From scratch, if necessary.
That's the kind of knowledge I have.
Very sophisticated.
I think in the first interview you mentioned that a certain amount of money had crossed your hands, as you put it.
Yes, well, there are institutions like what you might call the Bank of Banks.
I will not name these institutions because of their security reasons.
These institutions are the ones that hold the collateral for all the countries and every institution, and my job was to be able to access all of the collaterals that are available in the financial system and being able to directly manage that unhindered.
So, if we talk about trillions, it will be an understatement.
Okay, so now to launch into our subject matter, and also I do want to clarify that your family has been consulting even before the reign of Saddam, isn't that correct?
Yes, my family, my father, Abdurrahim Fahili, was instrumental in putting the first peace treaty between Iran and Iraq with the Shah of Iran in the 1960s.
So, in the 1960s, there was a lot of skirmishes going on between the two countries.
So, up to 75, more than 12, 15 years, the peace treaty between Iraq and Iran was put forward by my family.
We also did the peace treaty between the Kurds and the Iraqi government, between the The Kurd, the Iraqi government, and the religious institution, the Shiite religious institutions.
Our role is basically, has always been, to be the go-between.
When channels grow, we are the ones that reopen channels and reconnect.
Okay, so in the current situation that I referred to at the beginning, can you address First of all, I guess, your understanding of ISIS. And we do have a page on my website.
Anyone who came to this interview to watch it live will have probably come through my website at this time.
They will have seen your description of ISIS and where it came from, how it originated from your perspective.
Being someone who's deeply knowledgeable and has lived in the Middle East, For part of your life at least.
Can you maybe summarize that?
In other words, your description of the origins of ISIS. What you have to remember is when you deal with politics, in order to figure out what's taking place, it's very important to, first of all, identify the current players and be with them through time.
So keep the time factor always with you.
And when you try to figure out what's taking place, you need to figure out what was there before and how did the image or the background change.
If anything happens new, you look at who disappeared from sight, who originated on the scene, and who is starting to benefit.
And in this way you are able to contrast and compare between the different players and you are able to see what their hidden agenda is.
And you have to look at it all in backwards and not be too much in...
What's the word?
And not be too much in siding with one or the other.
You need to look at it objectively.
So when we were dealing with Iraq, after the American invasion coming in, there was the Ba'ath Party there trying to come back again.
And we were able to find that their finances were coming from the likes of Saudi Arabia, trying vigorously to remove the Shiite government from there.
For some reason, the king of Saudi Arabia at that time, King Abdullah, was told, convinced by certain parties that there is a Shiite coalition, the Shiite is now controlling the whole region again, and you need to actively stop that coalition.
I think those came originally from the Israeli side, assisted by CIA. So it gave them that image, From then onwards, when the invasion took place,
the Saudis put in $4 billion of his personal funds made available to re-establish the Ba'ath Party, even though they have just destroyed Saddam, but they were still wanting the ruling Sunnis to continue, and the ruling Sunnis just remained in the Ba'ath side.
So they wanted the Ba'ath party to come back.
Before then, they have given a lot of people within the government, or those who are being constituted with the Americans, they had a lot of Ba'ath background.
So they were hoping that those parties will come into government.
But every time they try to constitute a new government, the Ba'ath elements, which are very satanistic in the way that they deal with things, Very brutal and fascistic.
They have a problem in the fact that their aggressiveness comes out in the way they talk.
If they were less aggressive in their discourse, they would have taken a scene, but unfortunately for them, they were too aggressive.
What they did was they used the tricks and all that stuff to try to take To try to dupe the Shiite side to be with them, and saying, we will give you part of the government, you let us come back in control.
So while this was happening, they were constantly saying, we will not be dealing with the Kurds.
But the main problem was, from the beginning, the Kurds need to come into the scene, and that's where they made a mistake.
They should have aligned themselves properly with the Kurds.
They did not do that.
So then what happened is the information came out to the Kurds and the Kurds said we will not be dealing with the Ba'ath, instead we will just have a coalition with the Shiite side.
So from the beginning, since 2003, the Kurds have always been in coalition with the Shiite side for the simple reason That the Ba'ath-controlled Sunni side was not giving them a chance, historically.
So that's why the Ba'ath never came in.
And what happened was the management of the Iraqi political scene by the Saudis and the Americans were cycled around the four-year elections.
Once they started cycling in that one, their agendas kept changing according to how good they have done in different elections.
So you see the change in scenery because at that point they did not have a lot of control on the ground, but they were hoping to control through the political scene.
When the political scene was getting nowhere, the Americans were putting a lot with the help of The British Security Service, the MI6. The main people involved in that is the trilateral group working with CIA and MI6. MI6 Consulting,
on the ground managing, but CIA is the one managing the process on the ground.
MI6 was looking on as a consultant.
So they came in and said, what are we going to do with the baths now?
Because these are the Christian side.
Sorry, the Sunni side.
And they said, okay, we need to bring in parties.
So what they've done is they had the...
For the bath, you can see how it was managed in the first place.
The operation was run from Syria.
And the Syrian operation was there because the Ba'ath Party in Syria was the originator of the Ba'ath in Iraq.
So the Ba'ath Party in Syria assisted the Ba'ath Party to come back in Iraq, but hoping that they would come from their side.
So that's where it started with the Ba'ath side.
Okay, and are you saying the leader of Syria, is he aligned with the Ba'ath party?
He is the head of the Ba'ath party, but at the same time, he is having to contend with the Ba'ath, even though he is more coming towards the Shiite side.
And the main reason for that is The Iranian support has always been there, and that is a kind of coalition that he always wanted to be.
So, on a personal level, he feels the fact that he can rely on the Shiite side and cannot rely on the Ba'ath side.
Now, you have to remember, Ba'ath is made by its founder, Michel Aflac.
Michel Aflac is a Freemason.
So he brought Freemason control of Iraqi government through the Ba'ath Party.
The Ba'ath is a Freemason organization.
When you have Freemason organization, it means that you sometimes get orders from outside of your sector.
Bashar Assad and his father did not like orders coming into the Ba'ath Party away from the organization structure which he was in, and he was supposed to be heading that.
So they worked quite a lot trying to stop that connection with the Freemasonry aspect, and they destabilized the Freemasonry connection to the Bath Party.
Okay, but just because...
I'll put these pictures wrong.
So this is a picture from 2003 up to two years ago.
So, the center of operation for the Ba'ath party, when I say the Ba'ath noun, everything you know when I say Ba'ath will be ISIS later.
So everything I talk about Ba'ath will merge into ISIS. So you need to understand how that works.
And why ISIS came into the scene with Ba'ath being Ba'ath version 2.0.
The person who was supporting them, training-wise, was on the ground.
The base operation was in Syria.
The logistics support they had was from Jordan.
A lot of operation there.
The training and cooperation and coordination taking place was done in Egypt.
By Mubarak at that time.
Let me, excuse me to bother, I'm sorry to interrupt.
There's something on your table that you're hitting against and it's interfering with the mic, so I just want to ask you to be careful of that while you're speaking.
Yes.
Thank you.
Okay.
So you're saying the training came from Egypt?
The training came from Egypt under Mubarak.
Okay.
The problem is once Mubarak went, And Morsi came, and once Morsi went, and Sisi came, that training structure disappeared.
That support aspect disappeared.
When the Americans worked to destabilize Assad, the Syrian support disappeared.
When the Saudis were getting problem with the spring uprising, they were too preoccupied to come and support Iraq.
So, as you can see, and also when Iran was taking more and more control of the ground in Iraq, There was less support they had on the ground.
The other side was winning, and they had less seats.
Every government came in, they had less and less seats.
I'm sorry, there's still some background sound happening.
I'm not sure what it is from.
So I just wanted to tell you, because it's interfering with your speaking.
Okay, how about now?
No, it's fine now.
Okay.
So, then...
The change occurred, you have to remember, at the same time, there was the, that's what we're mainly taking the non-religious secular arguments.
For the religious arguments, they were using the Iraqi newly created Al-Qaeda, right?
So they brought in Al-Qaeda.
Al-Qaeda did not exist until America came into Iraq.
When America came in, the CIA then used their transportation and support and brought Al-Qaeda from Pakistan into Syria and into Jordan through them into Iraq.
So Al-Qaeda came into the scene with the full support of the CIA on the ground.
While the Pentagon was trying to control the operations on the ground, The CIA was destabilizing them, because there is a separate agenda.
So all what you saw, for example, the Abu Ghraib operation, was CIA doing a coup d'etat on the Pentagon, trying to throw them out of Iraq.
In America, there are six or seven different parties who were dealing with Iraq, each of them having their own agenda.
Those agendas were constantly conflicting, therefore there was no singular direction to what was taking place from the American side.
They had the White House separate from the Congress.
The Congress, the White House was being controlled more from the Vatican side.
The Congress was being controlled by the, from 2006 onwards, was more controlled by the Mossad-Israeli side.
Then you have the Pentagon, who is being controlled by the European families, who are controlling America and France, maybe the French royalties.
Then you had the Bush side who was amassing his armies through all these mercenary forces.
He was trying to get the American military deposed in order for them to get the mercenary people in.
So that was used in order to have an equivalent size of forces in America on the mercenary side, paid for by the Pentagon operation.
Then you have the CIA-run operation, which runs through the drug money.
The CIA also had the ability to print money because of the plates they had.
They were able to print dollars.
So the CIA was assisted by the trilateral Who was then the link with them to work with MI6. Okay, but isn't...
There are so many people getting involved, everyone having their own agenda.
So what happened is now they went in between two parts.
One part is pentagon, there is a feet.
So, I can hear...
We are being...
Hello?
Yeah.
Can you get your side?
Okay.
Hold on.
That's better.
That's better.
Right.
So the CIA created the Al-Qaeda to be more brutal within their agenda in Iraq.
Are you able to hear me?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
The CIA then started running all this bombing and stuff like that, and if they had anything missing, they went in to the Israelis and tried to get them to snipe at the British, snipe at the Americans, try as much as possible to raise the American and British death counts in order for them to up the antics And make the Americans leave and leave the mercenary forces.
I meant leave, the Pentagon leave, and leave the mercenary forces in there.
But that wasn't taking place.
They were just, they couldn't get it.
Every time, they were losing the ground.
At that point, they were finding that no matter how much they were trying to get the civil war going in Iraq, to start splitting the country, splitting it north for the Kurds, South and East for the Shiites,
the West for the Sunnis, as much as they tried to do that, they could not get the Shiite side to uprise and just go against the rest.
Because you had the religious institutions always, always standing against it.
So, why did they want to break Iraq?
Because it goes into the scenario of what is the end, what's it called, end game that they wanted to reach.
And the end game was they wanted to bring in Armageddon.
Now, to bring in Armageddon, there is a country that they're talking about that they want to resurrect, and the country is Assyria.
To resurrect Assyria they have to join north of Iraq with Syria as one country for that region then to work against the Israelis and to lose against the Israelis in which case the Israelis would then expand into Iraq and take up to Babylon and that is the scenario that they were trying to do everything you are seeing now is to resurrect Assyria So
as they were trying to do it independently of the Kurds, they couldn't.
They brought in ISIS, sorry, they brought in Al-Qaeda to destroy the control of the federal side, federal government, in the Assyrian part of the Maq, which is west of Iraq and north of Iraq.
That is what they're trying to do, to destroy That control.
And every time they use Al-Qaeda they try to do that with the help of Ba'athis.
But they worked separately and they worked against each other.
The Ba'athis themselves were split in three or four parts and they were not working with each other.
So what happened was a very big shift took place in 2012-2013.
After several attempts in trying to take control of the government with every election, they were losing more and more control.
They started the Arab Spring taking effect.
They changed everywhere.
But as they tried to topple the Syrian side to reconstruct the Assyrian scenario, the Syrian side was not supporting them.
How did that happen?
They were hoping that the Ba'ath would come to them.
The Ba'ath in Syria side.
And the Ba'ath in Syria side was managed by the Freemasons.
The Freemason connection nearly got lost because Assad was taking more and more control and the Syrians were becoming more and more opulent.
Everyone was coming to Syria and the prices went up.
And they basically did not want to change the status quo.
So they came into Syria, they tried to bribe the Ba'ath Party.
The Ba'ath Party thought about it.
What you saw in the Free Syrian Army are the people they were able to take out of the Ba'ath Party in order to do the revolution against it.
They were hoping that they were going to do some coup d'etat stuff, and every time they tried to do a coup d'etat, the intelligence services of the Iranians and Hezbollah was too strong.
They were able to figure out what's taking place in Syria.
And the reason they were able to do that was the intelligence services in Hezbollah Everywhere within the intelligence services in Israel.
Every time Israel was planning anything, that planning was being spoiled because Hezbollah knew about it beforehand and was able to send the intelligence to Assad, and they were able to work around it.
That's where Hezbollah came in well before anything, any movement that they did, once they were passing on intelligence through their operatives in Israel.
They were telling them what was taking place.
So every attempt to, like, use the air force to start bombing the capital by saying, making a coup d'etat, that didn't work.
You know, it went on and on.
So what they did was, when there was, now we go back to the Iraqi side, when the majority was now in total control by the Shiite side,
at that point there was a Reports being sent to the Trilateral Commission telling them, we are not able to control the situation in Iraq.
We are not able to produce the violence necessary to split the country.
The Shiites are not responding to our models.
Every model we have, that is not being conducive to a positive feedback loop into the violence.
Okay, so let me stop you there because it is a little confusing for the listener when you say they and the agenda.
I think you are talking, if I understand it, about basically what we would call, you know, grouping together, the Illuminatis.
Their agenda to have Armageddon.
This is their agenda.
They're trying to roll out.
Now, who makes up The Illuminati in this case is the Ba'ath Party, is also CIA, is also other factions such as the Israelis and so on, and maybe Jordanians.
In other words, it gets very confusing when you use the word they.
I'm sorry, because in this context, we're kind of jumping around a lot in different scenarios.
And the listeners are having a little trouble following you.
So, can you be a little specific?
Let's put it this way.
Okay.
This is like a background how things work.
When an operation takes place in any region, a commission takes control of it.
In this case, the trilateral commission is the one that answers back to the Illuminati as to what's taking place.
They are given The mandate to go and do it.
They do through commissions, and the Trilateral Commission is the one in control of that.
They answer back.
What you have to remember is the Illuminati has the structure.
You've heard of the Committee of 13 reporting to the Committee of 13.
The committee of 39 reporting to the committee of 300, and all that stuff.
And then there's a committee of 13 in each region, and in each region then you have the commissions.
In this case, the commission is run on the American side through the trilateral.
Anyone who wants to do any change in the Middle East region, while the trilateral is managing it, they have to go through the trilateral because that's a coordinating center.
So when I say they, it means the Trilateral Commission.
And the Trilateral Commission is the think tank or the project management that do these things on behalf of the Illuminati in that region for that time.
Okay?
So I'm telling you how the hierarchy structure works.
And each one gives the mandate, the mandate is as follows, and then they go in, in Bildersberg, they look at the trilateral commissions on an annual basis, they look at their reports, they say, okay, yes, no, these are the changes.
Meanwhile, the trilateral commission is the one who is in front of everyone, everyone comes to them.
So the CIA doesn't go to the Bilderbergs, they go to the trilateral, the trilateral We'll report back the Bilderbergs.
And if they want to have somebody supporting, they contact the trilateral contact.
The British side, I don't want to bring names because our communication will get disrupted.
The British Commission will then say, you know, send the MI6 over to sort it out.
Okay, so when you're saying that they were unable to get the Shiites sort of into a violent state of mind to want to rebel or to band together and to create some kind of insurrection in Iraq, they were unsuccessful.
So at that stage, what happened?
Because at some point there seems to be a drive to take all these differing factions, Al-Qaeda, And various ones and blend them all into one thing called ISIS. Yeah?
Yes.
You have to remember that there are multiple scenarios taking place at the same time.
And as each scenario falls down or goes away, the others will move and shift and try to adjust.
The main thing that went in and caused a lot of problems It's the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood was not able to take control of their center of operation.
I'll explain now why the Muslim Brotherhood was taken out.
When the Muslim Brotherhood was taken out, who's left?
The ones that are left are those that are currently still operational.
Their scenarios are continuing, which will be the Salafis or Wahhabis on the Saudi side.
The Vahs on the Iraqi side, and the Turks trying to do on their side, and then you have these players who are still on the ground that have not been taken out yet.
So as it went on from 2003, the scenario got more complicated as people were taken out.
The Muslim Brother was taken out.
That complicated the scenario.
Ba'ath was not controlling Iraq.
That caused the scenario.
The violence was not taking place within the Shiite.
That was complicating the scenario.
Assad took control of the Ba'ath side on Syria.
That controlled.
That caused the scenario problem.
And things were not working out together.
You see?
A lot of people think that the scenario is the same.
No, no, no.
You have to remember, these are threads and each one has their own cycles to work with, and the trilateral is trying to juggle all these balls together and trying to figure out what to do with it.
Meanwhile, the bringing back of Assyria there was not taking place.
That's another scenario that was happening.
The breakup of Iran was supposed to take place.
That was not happening.
Every time they tried to do a revolution there, they were being toppled, taken over, Control is put back.
That's another scenario.
The scenarios keep changing.
Let's go into a major scenario change.
I'll say things now most people would not have heard.
The major change in scenario in 2012, when the Qataris felt too confident for themselves, they started making announcements that they, now they have a lot of funds, They were thinking they were being too cocky and said,
okay, they were trying to take control, the Qataris now, trying to take control of Saudi Arabia, or being more in control of the Gulf region, because they came up having too much wealth, and they're trying to overtake the Saudis in there.
So they upped the antic saying that we want to send over gas across to, what's it called, across to Europe.
First of all, they wanted to go through Iraq.
Iraq was not, the scenario there was not succeeding.
They said, okay, we'll take you through Jordan, through Syria.
Okay, and when you say you're talking about the Qatar, you're talking about Qatar.
Is that right?
Yes.
What people know of as Qatar.
So when you say Qataris, you're talking about the rulers of Qatar, I suppose.
Yes.
Okay, because not everyone uses that.
Qatar is how they pronounce it.
Qatar is how they pronounce it.
Uh-huh.
But the Americans have a problem with Qatar.
Qatar.
Okay, so Qatar.
So the Qatar's, however you say them...
...wanted to overtake the Saudis in the Gulf region by saying...
Selling oil to the Europeans.
Gas.
Gas.
Okay.
And I also want you to address Russia, because obviously Russia is a huge player in this whole scenario that you haven't mentioned.
Which was in the next sentence.
As soon as they said, gas goes through Syria, into Turkey, into Europe, guess what Russia said?
Hold on, you are trying to bypass my control of the gas pipeline and energy into Europe.
Aha, you are now coming against me.
So, while the Syrians were losing control, Assad was losing control, Now, the Russians coming back and said, ah, if we lose Syria now, the Qatar will come in and we will lose our control of the gas energy market.
You see what happened?
So that's because Qataris became cocky, as they say in English.
Right?
So, what they've done is, now they forced the Russians to go and support Syria.
They forced them.
Because of the Qataris Blubbering about the gas pipeline, right?
Saying that, that was the back end of 2012.
The early part of 2013, Iran and Hezbollah came to the conclusion, now we have Russia on board, if we continue like this, we will lose our ally, Assad, we need now to be on the ground in supporting them.
So January, February they started coming in and immediately the scenario changed.
Okay?
Assad was no longer on Shri, he was winning.
He was winning.
As he was winning, now the Israelis have a problem because the winning side, which was Hezbollah, now was coming to the Golan Heights.
And they announced we are going to take Golan as well, coming in.
So they're going to lose territory, the Israelis.
That is March 2013.
The Israelis started saying, hold on, we are losing the scene in Syria.
So they started nuking Syria.
They sent four nuclear, they had four nuclear hits, two of them which was recorded.
Two of them on Damascus and various others.
You can see it.
If you type in Syria mushroom, nuclear mushroom cloud in YouTube, you will see them, or Damascus, you will see the nuclear hits taking place.
It is a tactical nuclear hit.
That then caused the Iranians to say, hold on, are you upping the antics?
So they sent over their nuclear arsenal, nuclear testing, nuclear production facilities, all their, what's known as a white room stuff, they sent it to, guess who, to Russia.
Telling them, listen, we haven't disclosed that we have nuclear weapons since back into, you know, 1990, 1998, something like that.
We were producing nuclear material since 2003.
They already had that nuclear production.
And you're talking about Iran at this time?
Yes.
Now, the Iranians, why are they having nuclear?
Because they realized that the only strategy that's left with them to stop the attack on Iran It was for the other side, the Americans and the Israelis, to know that Iran had nuclear weapons.
That was the only way to stop them being directly attacked.
That was sent to, in March 2019, that was sent to Russia.
Russia then called in The Israeli Prime Minister said, listen, why are you using nuke tactical nuclear weapons in Syria?
You are pissing everybody off.
Stop doing that.
Here is Iran's arsenal.
They say, if you start doing it, we will nuke you.
Meanwhile, everyone is denying that Iran had it because it just It just causes a lot of problems with regarding to their supposed superiority in the whole conflict.
If anybody declares that Iran has a nuclear weapon, immediately they cannot then persuade their populace the fact that they can go into a war, send armies across to the region and win.
So, everyone, Iranians didn't want to disclose it because that is against the Islamic Theology that says weapons of mass destruction should not be constructive because it's indiscriminate.
But meanwhile they said we are doing this out of necessity.
So now we have an Iranian power having nuclear weapons.
We're trying to keep it discreet.
The Israelis now using nuclear material and actively bombing Sites in Syria.
The Russians coming back now because of their interest in the oil, the gas not going through Syria, by the Qataris.
Now we have a scenario, and the scenario is the Russians came in and said, stop it, Israel, stop nuking.
Israelis said, but can't you see that they are trying to take control of the Golan Heights?
So, the Russians came and said, negotiate then.
They said, no, we're not going to negotiate.
Let Iran and Hezbollah out.
The Americans said, we will not accept it.
Let Iran and Hezbollah out.
This is all March 2013.
At the end of March 2013, Hezbollah was coming in.
They were able to defeat all the preparations that they have done Within days, if not weeks, they just did it like that.
It's as though they rehearsed it for many years, and they just took over whole cities in one go, with the minimal number of casualties.
Okay, when you say they took over whole cities, you mean in the Golden Heights area?
No, no, in Syria, back.
Okay, so you're saying Hezbollah went into Syria.
Defended certain cities on behalf of...
They took back the Syrian cities.
Okay.
That was being controlled by Jabhat al-Nusra, who is...
I'll explain now where Jabhat al-Nusra comes in.
Okay?
So then, the Americans wanted to come in.
Sorry, the Israelis were pushing the Americans to come in.
And that was all the hoo-ha taking place in Congress saying, let's America bomb Syria in March 2013, going into April 2013.
As they were trying to do that, Jabhat al-Nusra was the one on the ground, that was the only one they were supposed to be supporting.
Jabhat al-Nusra was a merger between the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda.
So that's what Jabhat al-Nusra is.
It's a hybrid Jabhat al-Nusra and Al-Qaeda.
Guess what?
Pentagon said, we were just fighting Al-Qaeda all the way in Iraq and In Afghanistan and various other places, we played the game.
Now, are you telling us that we are supposed to bring in all of NATO operations, have a full fight, just so that we can keep the al-Qaeda operation going in Syria?
F yours.
They did a mutiny in the European NATO command.
So they basically rose the two fingers to Obama and saying, up yours, we're not going to support Al-Qaeda.
They mutinated.
Meanwhile, what happened was, as he was trying to go through the Congress, trying to do the war, the Russians and the Chinese sent their fleets.
They sent it to the Syrian side, In the Mediterranean, and they encircled both sides of the coast of America, the eastern and the western side, saying, if you move, if you continue and start wanting to go bombing, we will now stop your bases from flying anything out.
Meanwhile, the Israelis tried to break the blockade.
They sent a nuclear sub over there, and within Feet of water in the Mediterranean, the Russians just blew it out of the water and sank it.
Right?
So, wait, wait, wait one second.
You're saying the Russians blew an Israeli sub out of the water and sank it?
Yes.
Was this in the news?
The Mediterranean was only in a very, very discreet alternative media.
I see.
And what did they say in the alternative media about this?
Do you know?
Well, basically said that that was leaked.
If you look at...
Am I able to bring in other alternative media channels, for example?
Names?
Yeah, you can, sure.
Ask Alex Jones.
He will tell you.
Okay, so he leaked...
He had this information?
Him and others.
Okay.
I have my own...
I'm only able to bring you what I'm able to bring you in the media.
So when I say certain things happen, I'm saying that is what's in the media.
Right?
I'm not saying how I know about it.
Oh, well, okay.
But you know about it by different means.
Isn't that right?
I always know things.
I always have a backup of anything I say.
Everything I say is in the media.
Okay, alright.
And everything that I say in the media, I wouldn't say it unless I have my own backup of it.
Okay, so the Israeli sub...
That was my original agreement when talking to you, that everything I say is in the public domain, right?
But I bring a separate twist to it.
Right.
Okay, fair enough.
But nonetheless, you're getting information from various sectors, certainly from ex-Illuminati contacts.
Yes, and not necessarily yes.
Okay, I understand.
If you, for example, wanted to know about the nuclear weapons in Iran, And their production of it, all you need to do is search the RT channel in the same time, in 2013.
You will see articles there saying the Iranians have nuclear weapons.
You will also see that the Israeli media, some of the They said that their operatives within the security services have told them, and they have declared it in the Israeli media, Iran has nuclear weapons.
Sure.
Okay.
What I'm saying is everything there, there is one, but the problem is I don't want to bring in others because just in case you have caused problems with those specific news channels, because they have been able to produce it.
Okay?
So you can search.
Well, no, this is okay.
This is actually past news.
So as we move along, this may have been in the alternative news.
It doesn't, you know, it's not so important at this moment whether it was or it wasn't.
It is when we see what happens.
Okay, so then what happens next?
Then what happens next is the Russians came in The Chinese came in and they deployed the armies across, blockading America and blockading the eastern part of the Mediterranean.
Okay, wait one second.
What do you mean by they brought armies in and blockaded?
Where?
What country?
The fleets.
Okay, armies don't go into...
The fleets.
They have the fleets.
They have the submarines.
Are you saying armies of the Chinese and the Russians coming into America?
No, no.
The fleets in the seas.
Okay.
Everything now is in the sea.
All right.
So, but this would not be army.
Normally.
For me, right.
An army and navy for me is the same thing.
It's the same command.
All right.
So, okay.
If I say navy, would that help?
Yeah.
It's okay, but you're saying they're the same.
Okay, that's fair enough.
Because they have air support, they have ground support as well, and if they point their intercontinental ballistic missiles at the other, you know, would you say that when the Navy goes in, the ground is also supporting?
It works together.
The army of a country works normally as a coordinated group.
Normally, but not always.
Not in the case of America, yes.
Not in the case of America.
Okay, okay.
So what happened at this point?
Is the Russians and the Chinese?
Yes, came in and they said, have a discussion.
Then the Israelis were said, listen, you are becoming a bad boy.
The Saudis, you are becoming a bad boy.
The Illuminati top command came in and overruled everything.
Now everything started being run from the Illuminati side in Europe.
They overruled the Trilateral Commission.
What they sent, they sent their amnestries to start talking with Iran.
And they cut off the connection to the channels to Israel and Saudi Arabia.
And you have Kerry there trying to constantly remind the Israelis and trying to keep them updated.
And the events were taking so fast that the American amnestries to Saudi Arabia and to Israel were not running fast enough to update them.
And they were, every party was unhappy by the fact that they were left off.
Left out of the table.
Because America was shut out by the Illuminati, trying to get the discussion.
What changed?
What changed was the, on the Iranian side, the parties that was managed secretly by the Illuminati, they went into the Iranian controllers and said, we have a back channel if you want.
If you bring in our party and let them win the election, We will stop the war and we let Iran take control of the whole Middle East.
Let's negotiate.
The guys want to negotiate.
So they sent a baroness, the Illuminati sent a baroness from the Britain side to talk on behalf of the Illuminati.
They sent it to, they had a discussion.
They had Russia, China, the Illuminati, the British representing the Illuminati.
and the Iranians are coming in with the Qataris the Saudis and Israelis and American even Obama shut out having a discussion what was the deal 2013 April May time the deal was that Iran to accept the
New World Order on the condition that it had a place in the New World Order Iran to be able to have its region its sanctions removed and controlled and the threat of war against it removed the situation to be controlled Iran has certain conditions and that was That Muslim Brotherhood was to be taken off
the table and scrapped.
That was the Iranian condition.
Muslim Brotherhood out, which meant Jabhat al-Nusra is out.
Everything was taking place in the region to put a new caliphate.
The Sunni caliphate was out by removing of Muslim Brotherhood.
Okay, does that include Sharia law?
Sharia law is a phase because the government, as soon as it comes, it will sign up to whatever the United Nations said, and the United Nations will sign up to whatever the New World Order says.
Okay, so it depends.
Sharia law is not legal in the United Nations, by the way, so it will not take place.
Okay, but the Muslim Brotherhood, weren't they trying to bring in Sharia law?
No, the Muslim Brotherhood It's a Muslim empire.
The return of the Ottoman Empire.
The Ottoman Empire did not have the Sharia law.
It doesn't, okay.
Well, because Al-Qaeda did have this, you know, but this was a confabulation of the CIA. Yeah.
Yeah, so whatever they say, when you say Al-Qaeda says this, are you saying what Langley brings out in their material?
Well, they're inseparable, aren't they?
Between who and who?
Between Al-Qaeda and CIA. Yes.
So when you say CIA propaganda said that we will bring in Sharia law, I mean, they can say anything as long as whatever sells.
What sells to the Sunnis?
Say bring in Sharia law.
That sells to them.
Okay, so at this moment you're saying In April or whatever, they make a deal.
Iran is...
What happens with this deal?
Because Iran does seem to have, at least, the war doesn't seem to be at their door quite as it used to be.
Yes.
So what happened was, as part of making that deal, the Israelis were allowed to put their subs next to the borders or the seas in Iran, And the British also sent their subs.
They said, if you do not fully agree with this, we are going to nuke you now.
So it is like a death, death, what's called, grab between each other.
One was saying, I will now nuke Israel.
The other one say, I'll now nuke you.
So while the army, sorry, while the navies of Russia and China was in the Mediterranean, The British and the Israelis were in the Arabian Sea ready to nuke Iran.
And that was a standoff.
That was in April, May.
Of 2013?
2013.
All right.
Continue.
Everything I said, if you search it, you'll find it.
That's fine.
Okay.
Now, the Illuminati said, but we don't make deals.
So now let's talk about the Illuminati level, not the government level, which is in the discussion, the Illuminati level.
The Illuminati said, how can we trust our side of the Illuminati in Iran to do their bit?
They need to give us tokens.
We will give them tokens.
Do you remember the last time I said that the Illuminati never ever signs a deal unless it's involved blood and killing?
So in that case, you should be able to say to me, Cameron, on what basis or what was the trade that took place between the Iranian side, the Illuminati side of the Iranians, and the Western side, the Illuminati?
What trade did they make to Seal the deal.
The deal was that the center of operation that was managing the intelligence services, that was managing all of Syria and Lebanon, the Iranian ones, the Iranian intelligence services, all their details was to be handed by the Illuminati to take out.
To take out the Iranian intelligence services.
Meanwhile, once they were able to take them out, they took out the second highest position within the security service in the Syrian side.
The Iranians, the Americans, the Illuminati took them out.
That was their last sacrifice.
MI6 was told to give your operation to Iran.
So the Iranians were handed in the MI6 operation in Iran.
They took about it.
That was the blood sacrifice exchange.
Okay, wait a second.
You said the blood sacrifice, the Brits, what did they sacrifice?
They gave what?
They sacrificed MI6 operation.
They're operative.
They're operative in Iran.
Yes.
Okay, so, alright, are we talking about just individuals being sacrificed when you say the security service?
Yeah, individuals, because they gave them the whole tree, the whole operation.
Is it not necessarily that they killed them, but that they revealed who it was, or both?
No, no, the Iranians killed them.
Okay.
After being revealed.
I see.
So they killed their own people.
After being revealed the Iranians.
No.
The British killed...
The Iranians killed the Brits and the Brits killed the Iranians.
Okay.
Alright, so once that happened, then what?
Then the Illuminati side on both sides cannot talk about the fact that they've done this deal.
Now they are both in the same bed.
Alright.
Somewhere in this we also have the bankers jumping off the buildings and committing suicide, right?
That are being suicided.
That's a separate state.
That's completely separate.
It doesn't seem separate, let me tell you.
We are talking about the Middle East now.
I know we are.
How the Illuminati was able to take control of the Shiite side.
Okay.
By taking control, by letting their operatives in Iran take control of the government.
They operated in Iran, taking control of government, gave to the Iranian establishment the carrot, we are now going to give you peace in your region through our negotiations.
Give us access to the position of head of government.
They took access to the decision of head of government.
Immediately, as soon as they had the file, Over their command operation that was running Syria and Lebanon, they sent that file across to them.
Meanwhile, they received a file from MI6. Then they said, oh, we have something monumental we have done.
We found out how the MI6 operation works.
Hooray, hooray, we are heroes.
They didn't tell the other establishment the fact that that was a backdoor deal in order to get into that.
Meanwhile, they went in and synchronized their banking side by going into Davos to clear stuff.
And that was 2014.
They went to Davos and exchanged everything on the banking sector.
Okay, so fast forward to now from 2014.
So now what happened is a huge shift happened in Middle East.
Muslim Brotherhoods were told to be removed.
Demonstrations took what was happening all the time at that time immediately in Turkey.
The The Free Syrian Army was demolished.
The support directly to Jabhat al-Nusrah now only left in Israeli hands.
The Illuminati pulled their support because of the Muslim Brotherhood taking place.
Morsi was brought down.
The King or the Prince of Qatar Qatar was immediately replaced.
The Muslim Brotherhood operation and the people in Iraq were thrown out.
The whole region just shifted.
So now you have to...
And then Israel and Saudi Arabia were unhappy because they didn't know what was taking place.
The top Israelis were told about it, but they were not telling the generals under that.
There was a huge, huge gap of knowledge, even within the Israeli establishment, what was taking place.
They didn't know what they are supposed to do.
Meanwhile, Saudis were felt very unhappy, and they started rattling their, you know, their saber-rattle, saying, listen, we are now getting out of there, we are going alone, we are now in control of the situation.
The whole region is ours.
You are trying to let Iran in and take me out.
I will not let them do that.
I will not start shifting to China.
That's where, at that point, no matter how much Kerry or whatever was sending, they were sending information across saying, be in line or we'll take you out.
We'll take Saudi out.
So the U.S., in the form of Kerry, you know, the Secretary of State you're saying, was saying that the Saudis had to get in line or the U.S. would take them out?
Yes.
But I thought they were always allies.
Only when they followed the line.
If the head boss of the Illuminati said, that's the deal, that's the deal.
Where the Saudi came in?
Okay, how the Saudi came in?
Let's leave this one, because it's now...
I'll give you now a background of how the Illuminati structure works within that establishment.
Now, you can see it.
Let's park this scenario slightly on the side, because it's too involving.
I want it to sort of settle in before going in.
The Illuminati have bloodlines, and then there are allies.
They are known as allied families.
The Bush is an allied family to the Windsor line.
The Saudis are an allied family to the Windsors.
And that's why the Bush and the Saudis are always in the same bed.
They visit each other, or the Queen, Because of the bloodline alliance.
So the Bushes and the Saudis are second-level, second-level citizens in the Illuminati stream.
So if the Windsors send their amnesty in, and the Windsors send, they send Baroness whoever to make the decision, the allied families have to come in line.
If they don't, they get Look after.
They get sorted.
Okay?
They have a spanking.
Let's go.
Okay, by who exactly?
By the Windsor side.
Okay, and the Windsor side, does it command the British troops or MI6 or MI5 or both?
The Windsor side is aligned with Russia.
Okay.
And MI6 is under them.
Yes.
Now, how does...
Okay.
So, now, who are they trying to bring in?
They are trying...
The Windsor side, or the Russia side, agreed with the French bloodline that the French bloodline is going to control the Illuminati side in Iran.
Because Iran has always been controlled by the French Illuminati side.
And Syria as well though, right?
Yes.
Because that goes into alignment.
So they become like second, they become like second, third citizen.
The first one is Iran, and then Syria follows Iran.
So they become like an ally of an ally.
Okay, and where does Jordan fit into that picture?
Jordan is directly through to the, what's called, to the Windsor, because they married into that lineage.
The Queen now is daughter of a captain from the Illuminati side.
Okay, and Lebanon?
Lebanon has always been a fracture between the previous presidents, the ones who have a loss of money from the Saudi side, and the ones of the Iranians, which would be Hezbollah.
So the Illuminati side is a subset of the Saudi.
So they're like the third-level citizen.
They answer to Saudi.
Saudi answers to the Windsors.
The Windsors then answer to that bloodline.
Okay, but who's in charge?
What about Turkey?
Where do they fit in that scenario?
Turkey is who changed the...
Turkey falls under the same...
Line as where Israelis answer to.
Because when...
But that would be the Rothschilds, yeah?
Ish, yes.
Okay.
Okay, so...
Because what we're working towards, just to refocus the picture here, and I know we're taking a long road to get...
And I know you're doing the best you can, which is wonderful, really wonderful.
But what I want to say is...
You know, the end game here is to figure out why Turkey sent troops into Iraq and what they want to achieve by this.
And you say they want to create an Assyria continent sort of caliphate, whatever.
Assyria is just a new country for which then the fight takes place with Israel.
Israel wins, Assyria gets destroyed, and then that is just the next part of the country.
In order to do that, they have two or three possible ways they can do it.
One way is to go through the Syrian route, that Syria expands sideways.
That didn't work for the moment.
It will work later.
The next way was to go to the Kurds, not Iraq, spread sideways.
They tried this, the Turks said no.
They did not like it.
Because as soon as they go sideways, they also go up into Turkey.
Turkey didn't want to.
They also go sideways into Iran.
Iran didn't want to.
Iran said, if you start doing that, we will cut you.
We will basically deal with you directly.
And even with the Kurdish side, there are two sides.
One aligned with Iran, and the other aligned with Turkey.
Or with Israel, I mean.
Directly.
They were encouraging the one allied with Israel to start spreading sideways.
And the Israelis assured the Turks that when the Kurdish expansion takes place, the Kurdish will only be according to that region.
And they told the Kurds, don't go up.
Go sideways or down.
That's what they told the Israelis.
But there's a huge Kurdish population in Turkey.
I know, but that does not fulfill the plans for the Armageddon.
Okay, alright, alright.
That fulfills the later plan in the New World Order to cut them off, to cut them in pieces, small regions.
Yes, but not now.
They need parties who are able to redraw them up in certain places.
I see.
So they went in and they couldn't get the Kurds going in.
Every time the Kurds wanted to move westwards, the Turks were cutting them off.
So now the Turks are coming.
Now the scenario is the Syrians are not doing it, the Kurds are not doing it, the Turks are not coming, in order to redraw this.
Okay, but the Turks must be under orders from either NATO or the US specifically, it seems to me.
No.
They are under orders from...
because when they cut off, The Muslim Brotherhood, Turkey, left dangle, and it was saved by the Israelis, by the Rothschilds.
When I say Israelis, it means Rothschilds.
Okay.
So they then are now aligned, and now Iran's leadership is aligning with the Rothschilds through that connection.
But they don't have a strong connection.
It's because it all depends whether Rothschild with the French Illuminati are in cahoot or not.
So the agenda always is close.
All right, and the Paris attacks were to get the French in line to bomb Syria?
No.
It was to stop the Rothschild onto the French Illuminati to get them off dealing with the Vatican.
P2 Clodge.
But the P2 has a lodge within France.
Yes, but the French Illuminati is a French royal family.
The royal family, before Napoleon took them out, they went in and migrated to America.
They established the American continent.
They established what's known as USA. All this stuff you're seeing, most of it, is established by the French families.
They came back to France, they always had France, and they moved to Germany.
They coordinated that.
Part of Germany was then handed over to Rothschild through the Napoleon Wars.
And then both of them were able to carve out as much as possible in the northern part of Europe.
Meanwhile, the southern part is controlled by the P2 Lodge, the Venice families, whose now Vatican is trying to represent.
What they hit was, was on the Rothschild onto the French families, telling them, get off From the Vatican side.
Cut your links off.
They did not like that.
That's why everything Pentagon went in and said we are now going with the Russians and with the Chinese to stop the Rothschilds doing that.
So that's...
they worked against the Rothschilds.
So when they went to Syria it was a sign to the Rothschilds of yours Your plan in the region will not work.
We are now going to destabilize all your operatives in everywhere.
It's confusing, I know.
Okay, so what I thought also there was a drive to get the French were aligning to some degree with the Russians and it was to get the French away from Russia or from working with Russia on the pipelines?
Yeah, when you say pipelines, it's actually families working together.
It's the old Tsar families working with the French.
Now, the Rothschild tried to cut off the Tsar families, but they came back again through what's known as the Moguls or whoever.
They had the funds coming from their families.
They didn't need to steal anything from the Russian side.
All they did with the Russian side was to re-establish.
So is Putin working for the old Tsar families?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, but what about the incidents such as the Russian jet that was downed over Sharma's check?
Yes.
That, you know, because I have, you know, my witness Mark Richards is saying something different in many, some of these cases than you, and sometimes you guys are in agreement.
But in that particular case, what are you saying, what do you say happened about that?
Let me put it this way.
If you can kill with one shot many birds, you'll do it.
Uh-huh.
Right.
Normally you align it where you have many agendas happening at the same time.
All right.
So if Marx said that at that point, did he say something along the lines of a Stargate closed or open, something like that?
Yes.
Yeah, but if you want to do that, might as well do it, fitting the other part of the agenda.
Okay, but he said Putin, in other words, what I'm trying to get out through this incident...
Putin has always been under the orders of the old Tsar families, trying to align those families with the old French families who are in control of the Pentagon and a lot of the infrastructure in America.
They are also in control of France and largely in Germany.
That's why every time that there was a First World War and Second World War, as soon as the Germans moved, the French would go, we're not fighting.
Why is that?
It's because they worked for the same families.
They didn't want to destroy their palaces and stuff like that.
So they said, why, you know, if the war is going to take seven years or whatever, Why destroy our monuments?
Leave it there.
So we basically said, there is the army.
Go with it.
And that's why in every war, France never actually got involved in a fight.
And the only thing that destroyed France is the Rothschild bombing them through the British.
That's the only reason why France got hit.
Nothing to do with Germany.
Germany didn't touch one stone in France.
They just took it over within one day.
That was the thing.
And I'm wondering why people can't just figure it out.
Why just every war, the French just drop their pants to the Germans and say, we have nothing to fight.
And then just play and act out a whole scenario called insurgency through the whole war.
It's all a game.
It's all a show.
They have to do these shows.
Lo and behold, as soon as the war finishes, they bring in their operative.
De Gaulle, and he starts cleaning up anybody who is not so useful, you know, it's 100,000, he takes it to the mob, and then the French families come back again.
Meanwhile, they are in the same bag with Pentagon, because they are paid by the same families.
Meanwhile, the operation to take control of America through the corporation known as USA, the Rothschild outplayed and outmaneuvered the French families Make them bankrupt or whatever, and they take it over.
Then they go to the Feds, and the Feds is the way to come into the French operation in America.
But that was done.
That was accomplished, yeah?
Is Pentagon now working with France and Russia?
The answer is yes.
So it never went away.
They just put their heads down.
Meanwhile, the Rothschilds were hoping that the Zionist control of CIA could take more and more control of America, and the French said, hmm, the Illuminati side, and the various other parts of the family said,
hmm, we can't rely on the Zionist-run CIA, controlled by the intelligence services, And the Rothschild Windsor family, let's create another center where they have to report to.
Let's call that NSA. That was my question right on the tip of my tongue.
Okay.
So the NSA is the reporting arm to what used to be the royal families through the The NSA is a reporting arm to the families through the, what's called, the Illuminati.
But what the...
Right.
Let's stop the scenario here.
Let's go global.
See what change...
Everything I'm saying now has always impact on what's taking place in the Middle East.
Because if you look in the Middle East too small, you'll lose the big picture.
Yes.
And everything I'm saying now always has an impact in America.
They created the NSA because when...
Okay, how did the CIA set up?
OSS... Well, come on, I mean...
No, no.
You're not even going to go?
No?
No, no, no.
But these are the early days of the CIA. This is where it came from.
No?
Well, people, what happened was when you did the Illuminati, you had it working with, for example, the Rothschild side, yes?
Yes.
And the Rothschild side started to take control of British and later on took whatever Napoleon had in control.
Okay?
And guess what?
The Napoleon was actually a decoy or an implant made by certain members of the families In order for them to fall into...
There are certain parts of the families that have a bigger agenda, way bigger than everybody else.
I will not go into that area yet.
Later on I will do that.
Not in this area.
They wanted the Illuminati to come out because they wanted certain parts of their organizations to show up themselves so they can cut them off.
They found that a certain part of the families, they found that there were a lot of operatives that they were not working for them, working instead for another set of families known as the 13 bloodlines.
Meanwhile, you have the nine families that were having all the assets.
You have 13 bloodlines who are working for what were known as the magicians.
They wanted to find out who was inside of them.
In order to do that, they had to give them incentive to start showing themselves.
So what they did, they implanted somebody called Napoleon and gave them all the support.
And Napoleon did as much as possible to clear out the ground and then hand it over.
Meanwhile, the Rothschild came in with their bandits, chef or whoever.
They went into operation and started working in the financial sector in Britain, in London's side.
The magicians then worked on the British royal family, tried to make them crazy, stopping them having children.
That's why you have King George the crazy, you know, the lunatic.
Right.
Okay, that's very interesting.
Okay.
But what about the Templars?
Are they part of the magicians?
Because at a certain point they get swallowed in.
Yes, yes.
They merge them together.
They use that to merge them together.
So on the British side, I'm now looking at the British how it works, how the security service is set up.
So they were, the British, the Rothschild were supported with a lot of magicians to take control of Britain and they basically caused so much black magic on the royal family in Britain That they stopped having them children, and they kept making them crazy, and the line kept jumping.
They were putting their own people in, Habsburg or wherever, they were putting their own people in, and suddenly it jumped into where Queen Victoria was, which was in line with the Rothschild side.
Then they spread that across into Europe, and they took control of that side.
Okay, but wasn't it, you know, because Princess Diana was part of, wasn't she part of, she wasn't the Windsor, she was the Tudor line, is that right?
Yes, yes.
And so the Rothschild, did they cut off the Tudor line?
Yes, through black magic.
Which keeps trying to come back, though.
Yes, because the assets are with the Tudor line.
Okay.
Well, bloodline as well, the true bloodline.
Yeah, but they have the assets to go with it.
Okay.
It's with the Tudor side, yeah?
Yes.
Well, the other one, only through...
But isn't the Rothschild's actual bloodline German?
No, they come from...
They go through Germany, but they come from...
Some of them come from Khazar, and the other one comes from...
You know, you've heard of the, what's called, the two types of Jews, the Sephardim and the...
Sephardic and...
Yes, Sephardic.
They all come and join together at a certain point.
Some of them from Spain and the other one from Khazaria.
They all come together and join.
In the German side.
Right.
But isn't this where Rothschild comes from?
Yes.
Okay.
What they're now trying to do is, the magicians need funding.
So what they created, well they created their eyes and ears and their center of operation called the East India Company.
East India Company then became the first part of the security services.
The East India Company became the security services for the British royal families.
The new ones.
You know, the ones that cut off the Rothschild now coming in with all the black magicians.
And then they must have gotten into China this way as well.
Yeah.
What happened is the East India Company They linked in with the Chinese magicians and Chinese gangster side and they, through the Opium War, they agreed to work together because the Opium War was taken by East India Company in cooperation with the Chinese magicians to bring down the imperial line in China.
The nationalist side.
Yes.
So they now work together.
When the East India Company came in, once they agreed with the Chinese gangster side, if you want to call it, meanwhile the gangster side in Europe,
which is now known as the Mafia, who is also managed by P2 Lodge or P1 Lodge, depending on who you look at it, They also merged together as part of a single intelligence services, the East India Company.
Okay, but are they all under the Black Pope?
No.
No?
The Black Pope only deals with the European side.
But when I'm talking about the Black Pope is to do with the Illuminati, but not necessarily to do with the intelligence services.
But SIV, you know, the Italian secret services, the Pope's secret service is...
Yeah, that is separate from the intelligence services that was created later from the East India Company.
Okay, because also when we were talking originally about the beginnings of the CIA... You're saying it goes back farther.
Well, doesn't it?
It goes back to Sieve, though.
Then IS. OSS, IS. But it goes to intelligence services.
Intelligence services splits.
Then they want to take control of the MI6, MI5, and OSS. Then they want to take control of the American side.
So they put in a lot of the Kazarians in there.
They shifted them all to America.
Forty percent of them were the Kazarians in the CIA. They had a problem.
They need funding.
The funding for the East India Company has always been through drug money.
So the East India Company said, listen, which is the intelligence services in the British side, said, listen, when we create you, you need funding for the operation.
Why don't you sort of deal in the trafficking side and take care of the trafficking side in the U.S.? So then the CIA became the dealer for this India company, the drug dealer working in America, in the Americas.
The funding, all the funding then came in from drug dealing.
That's why everywhere where the CIA went, you will see the country was drug-free, And immediately it changed into being a drug center.
Why drugs are used?
Because drugs are the nefarious areas within the society, and the black and serious magicians use that network, and they use that to co-opt people to do all the backdoor dealings through the nefarious activities of the drug trafficking.
Well, yes, but also drugs create an opening in the individual for the Satanist to manipulate.
To be compromised.
Yes, for compromise.
Whether they become Satanists or whether they become blackmailed or whether they become addicted, there are many routes.
But what that does, it always goes through, the drugs always go through that with money laundering.
It has to do that.
That's how it works.
And it always goes with the white slave trade, you know, with the human trafficking, with the sex culture.
It always has to go through this in order for the security services to be funded and also to be able to figure out what's taking place and to manipulate the politicians and the families or whoever to do their bidding through blackmail.
Okay, but let's get back to the NSA now.
So then the CIA started doing all that, but the other side went unhappy about the CIA. Who?
Kennedy, for example.
Now, the Kennedy side is from the Scottish Rites that never ever bought into the East India Company side because they were never ever with the Rothschild side.
That's where you see the Kennedys working against the CIA. And that's why you have always the two sides coming in and fighting within Europe.
In order for the Scottish right to work properly and not be consumed by the Rothschilds, they work hand in hand with the French royalty, to keep control of America.
And that's why they always have funding to come back again.
Meanwhile then, you have the CIA bringing Bush in, Later on bringing Obama in, and bringing the Clinton in, try to overwhelm this side.
You see?
So as they were trying to do it, they found that there was too much control of the CIA on the ground, and the Illuminati, the other side of the Illuminati, were totally unhappy with this.
So they said, we will bring in an integration center that's called NSA. The NSA reporting back.
Then what happened 9-11?
Right?
That's where 9-11 comes in.
9-11 was to compromise NSA. And this is how I explain it.
The 9-11 was incorporation, the Rothschild group cooperating, the Bush with the, coordinating with the MI6, with certain elements in French, in Germany, with the Mossad and the Bush family.
Right?
They came in and put 9-11 in, and they took that out.
Now, guess what?
Then you have the Mosside side, or the Zionist side, using that to blackmail everyone in Congress who worked with them, the Germans and the Brits, everyone else who knew about it and didn't do anything about it,
They blackmail them, saying, if you do not give us a copy of the NSA tape, fresh, we will expose you and we will cause all the troubles for you.
So then they created what's known as the Expenses Scandal, back in Britain.
Where a lot of parliamentarians found that their expenses were not correct in the last five years or whatever.
And then you had the same thing in France, you had the same thing in Germany, everywhere.
Where did they get that record?
They got it from the NSA copy.
They did that, they get a copy from the NSA records, now the Rothschild Group bypassed NSA, and then they used NSA for their benefit to blackmail everybody else.
They went in and blackmailed all of Congress, all of the houses in America, and within one election they took them over.
75% of them, even more, 80% of them were just handpicked by the Rothschild group.
They went into Britain and did the scandals and they took out all of theirs.
They went in every institution that they wanted, like the BBC, the CNNs, everywhere.
They picked out The people they didn't want to, and put in the people they wanted to.
They used the 2006 invasion of the Israeli invasion of the West Bank, sorry, the Gaza Strip, to find out who is not on their line.
They found them out, they used them, took them out, and after the 2006 Gaza invasion, There was a coup d'etat across the whole of the political institutions, the news agencies.
Anyone who was criticizing them, they figured them out, they took them out.
Okay, and this is the Rothschild side that is made up of the French, the British...
No, no, no, no.
The Rothschild side that's made up...
Against the French?
The British.
Yeah, against the French.
The British.
The Fed.
The Bank of England.
Okay.
And what about the Russian side?
The Russian side is the opposite.
Yes, because if you remember, they tried to do the equivalent of the United Nations in the beginning of the 18th century.
And the Tsar said, no, we're not getting involved.
They had a hundred years to get rid of Tsars.
In 1817, somewhere like that, they took them out a hundred years later.
That's why they put the League of Nations in, that didn't work, and they put the United Nations in.
Because the Tsar was always working against them, and then somebody else worked against them, and each one they took out the family that was against them.
Okay, and this is the...
I mean, what is it made up of, the Khazars?
Predominantly Khuzars, the Rothschilds, this side of the Rothschilds.
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay, but to get back to the jet that was downed over Sharmuel Shek, not only to close the Stargate, what were the other objectives of that?
Mainly to tell the Egyptians, you know, you are in our western border, we will basically...
Destabilize your economy and we will send ISIS in.
Stop doing that.
Telling the Russians, listen, if you start doing anything, we will come at you wherever we find a weakness within your system.
We will get you overwhelmed with troubles everywhere around the world and you will not have time to scratch your head.
Bringing down airliners causes a lot of noise in the system and a lot of distraction to the establishment and it basically disrupts the amount of time they have to do their agendas.
So it is basically to mud the water everywhere.
If I can't have it, nobody else can.
And then they use their news agencies around the world to bring in World War III, World War III, World War III. Right, which they're doing now, obviously.
No, World War III cannot happen.
I know, but the news agencies...
How are they going to do it?
Yeah, you're saying China has to get ready, and Alex Jones is saying the same thing, by the way.
They're saying...
21, 21.
They need 2021.
That is the Illuminati agenda.
They have to follow the plan.
Okay, so again, what is Turkey doing going into Iraq at this time?
Right.
So now what's happening is the Russians coming in and cutting off, with the support of the other families, the Rothschild side.
They're trying to cut off the Rothschild operations.
Rothschild is now saying, listen, it's easy to call them Zionists.
The Zionist side, listen, we now need to coordinate our operations now on the ground, our operatives.
Who are our operatives on the ground?
Our operatives are the Turks, the Iranians, I'll explain how the Iranians come, the Iranians, Al-Qaeda, through the CIA, which is our operative, which brings ISIS in, Because that's partly around there.
Our control, the old Ba'ath party who was cut off, now they took over totally.
So they took over the Ba'ath party in Iraq, joined them together with Al-Qaeda to make ISIS. Then they took out the Muslim Brotherhood, now they pushed them into the Zionist camp.
Because they've been cut off as part of the deal with Iran.
The Wahhabis have been cut off.
Now they're coming back into the Zionist side.
Okay, but the Shiites, are they left out in the cold for the most part then?
And the Kurds?
Or the Shiite side of the Kurds?
The Kurds, half of them that worked for Israel now, they are being brought in.
Right.
The Shiite now who is working on the Illuminati side, they are brought in to cause this mayhem.
Well, which Shiites are working with the Illuminati side?
Let's move on.
You can't go into that in detail?
No.
All that will do is muddy the water.
Alright.
Okay.
Not this one.
Next time, I will tell back which side it's done.
Okay.
All right, so...
Not now.
The next session, I will go into which side of which is actually...
which one on the ground now works for what.
Okay, but it begins to look like certainly Turkey is now back in the fold, is actually doing this.
What they said in the news was to fight ISIS, what in essence they're doing is to support ISIS. Yeah, what they're trying to do is they're trying to cut off the Iraqi support and the Kurdish expansion program and the Iranian link.
They're trying to cut off and take the area where the oil is and other assets.
But now, later, I'll explain what the assets are thereafter.
Okay.
We've got to close this down because we've been going for ages, and I do want to ask the people that are listening, and thank you because you're doing an excellent job, in my opinion.
I do want to say, if you have any questions, please put them in caps now.
In the chat box, otherwise we won't have time for them.
And while you're doing that, I wanted to say, I was told that there is a push to get ISIS to go in to Turkey to demolish the ancient sites such as Gobekli Tepe and others, some in Cappadocia, some on the coast, which are supposed Greek cities that aren't Greek at all.
That were built by the Reptoids, basically.
Yeah, they will be allowed to do that.
They will be.
But at the moment, what they're trying to do, if they go in now, that causes too much destruction of the Turkish government because the amount of faith that they are currently losing is faster than the control they're getting off the media and the people and the armies.
And they are losing quite a lot, and they are holding them by the threat.
So what they are trying to do is, they're trying to run faster than the Turkish people, and the Turkish army can catch up with what they're trying to do.
They're always trying to put them into a scenario.
If they put ISIS now in...
Okay, let me tell you part of the scenario which is yet to come.
Where the Iranians are coming in?
The Iranians have sent signals, that's coming out in the news, that they will pull out of Syria.
Okay?
Why?
Because they want to destabilize the Russian attempt to control Syria.
When they pull out, they will tell Hezbollah to pull out as well, in order for Russia to be in a very difficult situation and have to go out.
The next point is now what's taking place.
The scenarios are all going into one location, which is basically the Rothschild, through the Zionists, through Israel, through the Mossad, are taking control of all the parties directly, unashamedly, taking control of Muslim Brotherhood, or Muslim Brotherhood giving allegiance with the...
what's his name?
The Wahhabis giving allegiance to Israel, to the Zionists, unashamedly.
The ISIS giving allegiance to Zionists.
Turkey giving allegiance to Zionists, unashamedly.
And part of the Kurds giving allegiance to the Zionists, unashamedly.
Coming all as one, exposing themselves as to who their playmasters were originally.
So that's what you're seeing.
The one who is currently controlling the scene will let Iran go out of the picture to keep Russia under a difficult circumstance.
The whole scenario changes when there is a change that's taking place where a hit comes to the Vatican side, as I said before.
The hit is now extremely imminent.
The P1, P2, they asked for at least 48 heads of the P1s as the Rothschilds asked, as a tribute or as a recompense to what they have done because they sided with the Russians.
So they're not going to be given that.
So then their deadline of December 10th has passed.
So now they are in position at any time to take them off.
Whether they do it now, whether they do it in a month's time, they're now in full alert.
If you look always, the Vatican, the Pope is asking, I want mercy, I want forgiveness.
Have you noticed that?
Everything.
He's talking back forgiveness, mercy, whatever.
It's because he's seeing that there is a hit.
He asked through Every channel we use, including Adele, you know Adele the singer?
Yes.
Every message she sends out is their message to the outside world, to the designers.
And the latest Adele message she sent out...
The one, Hello?
Is it the song, Hello?
Yes.
That was a message to the royal families, big ones, not the Illuminati, to come and protect them.
And they are saying, we are sorry to have come against you.
They went through each one, and each one were prevented by the benevolent forces from giving allegiance.
Now, here is a message that I want to pass on, if I may, to the White House and the Vatican side.
The Benevolents have Removed support and are preventing any support to come to the help of the current Vatican head and those who are under him.
They will not block the head that is coming.
My advice to them is to pray, work to support the innocent Do not go down with the guilty part.
Your presence is very important.
Your survival is very important.
You have a backup Pope.
You have others who are in position in backup.
Take them out where they are out of harm.
Keep them safe.
Leo is a good example where you might come talk to him.
Maybe he will be able to bring you together.
I don't know.
I've not spoken to Leo about this.
Leo is an army of talking about him.
Yeah, I know that.
But the trouble with Leo is that he was possessed.
Let me finish the message.
You have a chance now where you can reconstitute the Vatican Church After the Satanists blast each other off.
That time you have the chance to come in and clear out the remainder of the Satanists after they have hit each other.
You now know what we need to do.
Get out of harm's way.
We don't have much time.
End of message.
Okay.
Right.
So...
What about, just let me see if there's any questions here.
Actually, there are comments but not questions that I see here.
That's the nature of the audience we have here.
This is an opportunity, guys, if you want to ask questions, you know.
Okay, but you talk a lot about the French side of the Illuminati and the royal families that are on the French side and what they've done.
In order to show a coordination between France and Vatican.
I understand.
But also, what is unclear is the Nazi...
Because you're not really addressing that.
And there's a large part of ISIS, which I had an interview recently with Peter Levenda, but it's been in the news as well, that the roots of ISIS and the roots of the Nazis go back into the same kinds of places.
And so can you address, as briefly as possible, in light of how long we've been going here, Your take on that, on the Nazi, the sort of unification and the infiltration, really, of ISIS with the Nazi element.
That comes through the CIA, I assume, but go ahead.
Let me explain.
Everything, as I always say, is managed by the benevolent side.
The problem is if you use too many of the pawns in one game, There is not much you are able to use in the other part of the game.
What the Benevolent are doing are pushing back the Nazis so they don't get involved in this current scenario because they have a final take down what's known as the Judgment later on.
So they are deliberately making the Nazis not have A say in this game because that leaves them intact to be used as pawns for the next time that the benevolents are using to expose the negative entities within the Illuminati and various other places.
So that's why you never hear about what the Nazis are doing now, even though there is a link.
It's because that link is being deliberately muddied and no matter how much the Nazis are trying to come in, they are preoccupied with other matters.
They are being preoccupied in order not to come into the equation.
So that's why talking about the Nazis in the current scenario in the next few years, the next three or four years, We'll not give you any predictions about them because they have been neutralized for the moment to be used later.
Okay, then what about this preoccupation with, you know, because it's always a division between communism and fascism, and the division within the family seems to also go down those lines as well.
Yeah, the Communism is the same culture as the Khazari culture.
The Fascism is the same culture as the Vatican culture or the mafia culture which they have in Venice.
The Communists saying nobody has anything.
The Fascists are saying we have a class structure Certain people are in control of another set, and most people are in the lower side.
Right?
But we have a ruling side.
That's what the fascist is.
And this is where the clash always is, between we basically put everyone into the dump, in subservient to Satan, or the other one saying, we are subservient to Satan, but in a hierarchy.
Okay, now let's make a quick transition, and I know this is crazy, but this, just so everyone knows, our focus was ISIS and the whole situation within the world stage at this time.
And you need to watch our other interviews, actually the ones where he talks about the return of the Medi and so on and so forth.
At this time, you believe that there are certain things that were put out in my second interview, I believe, with you, in terms of what might happen in June with so-called Planet X or Nibiru and this red dust, etc.
Now, according to Mark Richards, this is inaccurate.
He's not getting any of this.
And there is a Dyson Sphere...
That surrounds most likely what they're saying is a brown dwarf and this comes from Clark McClelland as well as Mark Richards does say that it's very likely a Dyson sphere.
That is being mistaken in essence it sounds like for Nibiru.
Now what do you have to say to that?
Who did I send you the link about the musician?
The British musician?
What's his name?
We are talking about David Bowie.
Well, David Bowie has been out of the scene for ages.
Are you saying he's...
Yeah, he came back.
Okay.
So it's not called Dark Star, it's called Black Star.
Oh, all right.
Well, yeah.
Right.
The Black Star now is a series within David Bowie's one.
Is the Illuminati's alert to the public of becoming of Nibiru.
And if you look at Black Star, but look at the Black Star lyric, which in the beginning it says this is owned by David Bowie, and it's part of his collection.
If you look at the end of the lyric, there is the date Of when the Dark Star is supposed to come.
And the 1st of August 2016 is the date.
Okay.
And everything to do with the Black Star is their representation of what do they expect to happen.
Now he has Nazareth coming out next month.
And every one of them is David's attempt to alert the public On behalf of the Illuminati as to what is going forward.
So now the Illuminati started declaring what they expect to happen next, which is basically the destruction of the civilization, the reinstitution of the feminine side, the cooperation, working for the temple, working back again, and the reconstitution of new civilization.
Okay, and you believe that earth changes will accompany this?
Okay, in earth changes there is always a confusion.
Even when you look at prophecies there is always a confusion.
I'll just give a minute description of what the confusions are.
There is a lot of things that events happening known as the event or the hour.
And the hour are pillars in time, are junctions, where things monumentally happen and they all merge for that to take place.
When the scriptures you read them, even though they are separate, you read them as though all of them are interpolated on top of each other.
So you don't know whether Yagav or Magog is happening at the same time as when the fellowship happens and it happens at the same time.
As when Babylon is made and how many Babylon's are there.
They all seem to be images interwoven on top of each other.
And the idea is you need to flip it and spread it between time.
We need to figure out how to do that.
Most people put everything in one go.
And that's where they make mistakes.
If you untangle it, this is all the scriptures saying this, but you have to untangle it in this way.
There is a principle that the scriptures say is very important because it's a benevolent way of doing things.
There is never ever a hit on all of humanity or a hit on a large group unless they are being warned.
Unless they know how to protect themselves from what's coming.
If you see yourself a warning of something coming and there is nothing to tell you how to protect yourself, know that that is an incorrect warning.
Okay?
So, in order to be properly warned, they also have to tell you how to protect yourself from the chastisement, from the events.
What's coming next is the collapse and the warning that all of humanity has had for the last Since 2008, to decouple themselves from the financial system, connect with people, establish communities, go against globalization.
That's the warning being given.
Everyone talks about this.
That is the warning for the magnetic shifts that's coming to come with the Earth changes when 2016 August that, and again, in order to protect you and protect me, I said, this is my opinion, you have your own way, research, and all that stuff, I'm seeing it as how I'm able to understand things, as well as my information which I'm keeping for myself.
But you don't have to do any illegal work on my behalf.
If you do it, it's your problem, not mine.
That part said, when If you unravel the prophecies and the earth changes separate them out, the warning for the first one has been given, decouple yourself from the system, establish communities.
That part is for the earth changes that's going to come for Nuguru.
That then It destroys the globalization aspect, the monetary system aspect, and lets people come to work with each other.
The majority of deaths happen not because of earth changes, but because people slaughter each other.
So it's a societal problem.
It's a negativity problem.
The point that people are supposed to shift in the time of Niburu is stop using the masculine energies, work with your feminine energies.
What is a masculine energy?
Feminine and masculine have to come together to make things happen.
You need control, you need management, you need strictness, you need timetables, you need to have some kind of punishment A lot of things, strictness, this comes with single-mindedness, this comes with the masculine energy.
The other energy, forgiveness, all-encompassing, all-spiritual, all-forgiving, encompassing all, this comes in the feminine energy.
The control or the mindset that everyone in the global What the elite are trying to do through the Illuminati is to move people from the feminine energy into masculine.
The hit that's going to come, the Earth changes, is decoupling, deactivating the masculine energy, making you unable to make any plans, can't be strict.
You now have to go with being compassionate, all-encompassing, forgive it.
That's a feminine energy.
That is where people, as they are being pulled from the here and from the masculine energy, which could be male or female, doesn't matter, when they are being pulled from the masculine energy, telling you, you have gone too much on the masculine side, go to the feminine side, that's where people start hitting each other.
That's what everyone else is talking about, Simon Parks, Everyone else was talking about that there is a realization, a change that you need to do, meaning go to your feminine imaging.
That happens by the magnetic Polishist removing all communications, the dumping of all this red dust, stopping globalization taking effect.
And every community now has to look inside, figuring out who is next door.
Who's hungry?
Whose child needs to be fed?
Not just your child, others.
Whoever is in the masculine will kill each other and will be taken out.
And the feminine will remain.
That's that part.
Then later on, the reorganization of the global scene, because people will see, awaken to the fact that globalization and the masculine energy is gone, useless.
We now need to work as A proper global community looking after each other.
Then you will see the Illuminati coming in trying to reimpose the masculine energy again.
Then they go against the whole thing and they start bringing up the scenarios, the ET invasion, false flags and everything.
At that point, sanctuaries have already been made 20 years, 30 years, I don't know how long.
Everyone is being told, here's a sanctuary, go for it, if you are a feminine side, with a masculine side.
If you want to stay out, stay out.
People are separated.
People go into the sanctuaries.
Nobody dies because of planetary changes.
They die because of human-to-human interaction.
They go into the sanctuaries, then Polish shit happens.
Whoever is out gets killed.
Whoever is underground gets sealed.
Polish a couple settles down, people come out, here's a new one.
Then there's another thousand years.
Okay, but keep in mind that some of the people that go under, if this indeed happens in this scenario, the way you're saying, that those who go underground also get sealed in underground graves.
Not all of them yet.
What happens is this.
When the hit, when the first one comes, the ability to build underground bases, new underground bases, are removed as part of the agreement that takes place.
So what exists, exists in the time between Nibiru and the chastisement, right?
So in the underground gate, the earth is too big already.
So even what the ceiling happens is the ceiling of the tunnels to come out again.
Since they cannot come out again and they are not able to dig anymore, they are sealed into the cities that they've dug themselves under.
Okay?
And because the earth shifts, where they are trying to come out is either under the sea or under where it's been hit Where the whole land crumbles and morphs into either depressions or into new ridges,
and the whole earth moves, all the channels connecting to up is closed, and all the channels in between are closed, and they are left as communities underground.
To be then left with their God, who is the Satan called Anurueva, to deal with them down there.
Okay.
Now, are you aware that what you're doing is following a certain line of reasoning that also goes along with a philosophy that does follow the The Bible is a playbook, possibly the Quran because I don't know it well enough to say whether it's a playbook or not, but I think perhaps you would.
In other words, there's also a scenario that says that a lot of this that you're talking about was placed into the Bible as a sort of playbook As what the dark side wanted to see happen,
which they have actually tried to have happen over and over again, but that they failed and that human consciousness has entered the mix as of at least the last 20 years, yes, let's say, and that it has changed the playing field and changed This scenario, so that it is, they are still trying to make it happen, but it's not happening the way they wanted it to.
And this is part of their problem, that they've been behind the times, that they haven't actually kept up, been able to actually make these things happen the way they wanted.
And that Nibiru is actually part of a failed scenario, that what you're talking about may actually be something that was planned, even along the lines you're talking about.
But that it has been superseded by a different way because of the change in consciousness on the planet.
Well, let me give you another plotting of the lines, which plots exactly on the points you raised, but it gives you a different picture.
In order for the benevolent to do the changes and get rid of The negative elements, they have to give warnings.
They gave the warnings into what we might call the religious scriptures, the holy ones, but what they've done is instead of separating it neatly out, they superimpose it on top of each other.
Then they cut it into a jigsaw and they split it across different scriptures.
If you believe one part of the scripture, Then you're not able to properly unhinge and see the scenarios as separate.
You are seeing it as one.
And that's why if the Illuminati followed the proper sequence, they would have been able to know that the point, at this point, they're supposed to have been involved in the feminine energy, not the masculine.
But because they see in the scenario there is masculinity taking place, which is the judgment, which is the masculine energy comes in as a hit on the Illuminati in the chastisement, they see that imposing on the feminine one for the current times.
They think it's one scenario.
They have been fooled into this position.
That's why they are following it But they are not able to decouple it like this.
Because they are not able to see the picture across every scripture.
And they will make sure that they are cut into factions where they will not follow all the scriptures.
Hence, the map which tells them, the guideline which tells them how to decouple has been made to confuse them.
So what did they do?
They followed the lights of Revelation.
In Revelation, it's an overlapping of many maps.
They're trying to do that.
But if you look in Quran, it tells you how to decouple it.
Like this.
So when they go there, they are now trying to impose a masculine energy into an environment which only accepts femininity.
Feminine energy.
That's where they've been tricked.
They fall into that.
Then they go in And to the other side, by then they are too weak, but they're trying to continue with the scenario out of habit.
Because now they are too internally split to reorganize and think again, give long enough time again to reconstitute and look at the map and see how it is actually being separated.
Internally there will be too much worrying who is going to be the top dog.
So that's a scenario that I'm given.
Different from the other one which says it's done by them.
I'm saying no, they were duped into it by giving you all this stuff happening at the same time.
Okay, but how is it, you know, because Nibiru is actually their planet.
Nibiru is this thing connected with Marduk, connected with the whole Satanist, the One World Government, etc., etc.
And the passing of Nibiru has always been their chosen way of then imposing their order on humanity again and again.
Over the eons of various seedings.
So why...
Well, but not just through him.
No, it comes from the Sumerian tablets.
It comes from many places besides him.
In other words, the return of Nibiru, this planet that comes in, is, again, you're focusing on it being the sort of instigator, if you will, And I'm wondering, you know, are you aware of this Dyson sphere idea?
And what are you hearing or what are you thinking about this sort of dichotomy?
Because again, Nibiru is aligned with Anu and Anunnaki and, you know, their rule, which is the one world government rule.
Yes.
Now, what you have to remember, didn't you receive a report saying that the Zeta The Zetas went back in history and changed and implanted certain things?
Yes, Zetas have been doing many things.
Yes, so those, I put this scenario to your suggestion, that the part that says that the planet of passing is an inhabited planet called Nibiru, that part is implanted.
So when you are calling this planet Nibiru, what are you seeing?
I'm saying Planet X because it's easier.
Okay, let me explain what the physics of Planet X is as far as I understand it.
When a planet is larger than Earth, let's say five or more times, and that planet, when it becomes that large, the crust of the planet, the crust It will be too thin to withhold any kind of stresses that is inside the planet as it tries to maneuver its way through the cosmos.
If it comes close to a star and trying to maneuver itself, like it's coming to the Earth, sorry, to the solar system, and trying to continue its way through a certain path, the engine starts and the engine heats up.
The size of the planet means that the crust becomes unable, like an eggshell, unable to withstand the heat that's coming from the planet as the magnetic engine works.
That then causes supervolcanoes to take effect, meaning it basically bursts out of energy.
Why do we have supervolcanoes?
Because the planet Always has water inside it mixed along the whole strata of the planet.
So when the heating takes place, water causes a lot of steam.
That steam then drives supervolcanoes taking effect.
When it does that, the planet is trying to control its way through.
It has to generate a lot of magnetic.
It has to spin very fast.
As it's trying to maneuver its way through the fast lane.
That causes the planet to run faster than the new normal, causing it to, instead of being circular or ball-shaped, it becomes oval-shaped, making a lot of stresses at the edge in the Poland region.
Sorry, in the...
What's it called?
Not the polar.
The belt around the middle.
Yeah, the equator.
The equator's crack, the crust of the equator's crack, a lot of water is pushed, the water is superheated, the water is then ejected out into the volcanoes.
The volcanoes are so, the ejector is so fast that the gravity cannot pull it back again.
The ejector is hot, the ejector is water, which is oxide, and some part of the core of the planet, which is iron, so that's why you have the iron oxide, giving you the red part.
That circulation going, that ejector taking effect, causes what you look like as a wing.
That is too fast for it to be captured back into the planet's Atmosphere into the planet again to contain it.
Because that does not happen until the engine starts coming close to the solar system, the planet remains inactive.
The crust reinstates itself all the way as it comes and all the way as it goes.
But as it comes in, as it just tries to go out, the heating takes effect.
Whatever being exists on the top of the planet In the crust, in the mantle, close to core, will be vaporized because of the supervolcanoes that's taking effect.
That is pushing all this dust that's coming off.
As it pushes all this dust coming off, it's not a dust because it's heated.
A heated dust is called smoke.
That's what smoke is.
It's a heated dust.
That's why when the smoke falls on Earth, there is heat as well, compensating for the sun's light.
Okay, but let's talk about whether this planet is visible at this time.
It used to be...
I'm now tracking at the moment to see whether it should be visible just before dawn coming.
I used to be...
I saw certain things.
I have images, but I cannot confirm it.
I'm waiting for confirmation.
Every time I try to look at it for some reason, whether it's benevolent or whatever, there is cloud coverage.
But at the time we were able to see it, they looked like some planet with a tail behind them.
Sorry, with wings around them.
But I cannot confirm that because every time we try to look now, we have been prevented for some reason.
So, I expect that to be able to see, again, you have to make your own research.
This is my opinion, not your opinion.
You don't need to go, don't be chicken little, right?
I'm smiling, you should smile as well.
Okay?
Let's look at it as a theoretical.
It's all good.
Go ahead.
So, I have no problem with this.
So, the thing is that you still have this scenario and you believe that this certain thing will happen on a certain time, right?
And you believe you're saying August 3rd, but you were also saying, at least in my prior interview with you, there would be something around in June, if I recall.
Yeah.
And do you still hold with this?
The June part is...
The first time the dust sort of...
No, no.
...comes.
Three days of darkness, no?
Yes, yes.
The planet is now on the other side of the Sun.
We are rotating.
It's trying to rotate as well.
When you see it, you see it before dawn.
As months go by, it goes behind the Sun.
As another month come by, it comes on the...
You see it in the west.
After sunset you see that.
Then every sunset it grows higher and higher until you see it.
Now what's happening is this.
As it comes there is a wing.
The edge of the wing will be in our view of the Sun.
June, the edge of the wing will be between us and the Sun.
That will be the darkness.
The planet hasn't come yet.
It's on its way.
But the edge As it hovers, it comes in.
The edge of the wing now just comes between us and the Sun.
I can't remember whether you believe it's coming on a perpendicular orbit to the elliptic of the solar system.
It comes at an angle.
Some say 40 degrees.
That is fine.
Now, what happens?
As the edge of the wing comes up, it will temporarily block the lights from the Sun coming to us.
Hasn't yet come by then, by June.
Okay, but it's got to be near something.
No?
No, no, it's coming.
It's in between us and the Sun.
It's coming.
But it hasn't come totally in between us.
Okay, what I'm saying is coming from below.
In other words, you're saying it's not near any other planet?
it's not between Mars and Jupiter whatever it has already passed the plane it has already It's already gone under the plane.
It's now making its way above the plane.
And when it does come above the plane, it will be between Earth and the Sun?
No, no.
Above the plane, it has already gone above the plane.
Okay, between which, where did it go between?
Apparently somewhere between Mars and Jupiter.
Closer to that one.
So then it's going to go back down again?
No, no.
Here's a plane.
Yes.
That's what I mean, but it has to go back down again, yeah?
No, no, no.
Back down on the other side with our twin sun.
Oh.
The other side.
Half of 3,600 years.
I see.
1,800 years.
It goes in there and comes down again over there.
Comes here, then goes up again here.
And it goes like this.
It doesn't go like in and out and in like an egg shape.
Okay, but at this moment you're saying, you're literally saying something is happening six months from now.
So it must be very, very close.
Yes.
It's now made its return journey.
So it's going, you know, and how fast do you think it's going?
Well, six months, it will be, what I'm saying is six months from now, six and a half months, seven months from now.
Seven months from now, it will be on our side between us and the Sun.
Not yet, but it will be closer to us than the Sun.
The edge of the wing will cover the Sun, cover our view of the Sun for three days.
Forty days later it will be above us.
Now let me explain something called the What they are seeing.
Here's a bit of physics that's not explained well, or not known well.
Earth, as it moves, has a magnetic field around it.
That magnetic field also acts as the lung of Earth.
As it moves along, any of the good, beneficial particles that are there, the different types of material, are brought down and the magnetic field pulls it in.
In the air, the space in between the end of where the solar wind hits the magnetic field and Earth, there is a big gap, both sides.
One side pulls in, the other side pulls it out and sends it out.
The good material comes in.
Earth then has an interaction The energetics has an interaction with the top of the atmosphere.
The good material comes into the atmosphere, into earth replenishing the atmosphere.
Meanwhile, the atmosphere has all the split ions and the unbeneficial hydrogens that have been created as they are splitting off.
They go back out.
There's a cycle.
It's like a lung.
What happens is, as things are pushing, causing spikes in the magnetic field, where there becomes holes, like CERN, generating a lot of magnetism,
hitting the magnetic belt around us, causing collapses in certain points, that then causes a discharge to come through, From where the magnetic field is hitting the solar wind, all the way onto the planet's atmosphere.
That magnetic discharge burns the hydrogen that's going up.
That's what you see as red, red skies.
That's the red skies you will see when there is some kind of varying disturbance to the magnetic field.
As part of Planet X coming, that becomes worsened As it comes, it disturbs and disrupts the magnetic field.
The magnetic circulation that is holding and doing the air venting or the venting of the material of Earth, that then receives an electric charge and makes it burn.
That's why you will see before, as it comes, You will see the sky as always red or colored or there seems to be fire happening in the sky, day and night.
That is because the hydrogen as it goes up is being burned and you literally have a spark all around Earth in the part which is called the Earth, I call it the Earth Lungs.
When the planet comes, then it starts sending more of its energetics, because the two planets have different charge to it, the charge transfer happens, then you will see all the dragons playing in between the Earth's atmosphere and the magnetic Earth protection, several thousand kilometers.
And that explains certain phenomenons that we will be seeing.
Okay.
But at this moment, again, we've been going a very long time.
And there is some of this explained in my prior interview with you.
So what I would like to do is perhaps have you back and we can talk more about this in the future.
And I think this is plenty for people Listening, and we will divide this up into more than one part, because I imagine it's actually been a few hours long.
The thing is, just to wrap up, do you want to say where you're getting your information?
Anything about that?
And also, the last question of the day is, if we reach June, and even August, and this doesn't happen, Where will you be then?
I will be happily having a tequila, even out of that drink, but a non-alcoholic tequila somewhere in Hawaii or the Havanas having my retirement.
Do you want to say where you get this information?
I'm a consultant to the major families, some of which I have not named to you, which means that I am privy to a lot of knowledge.
Not from them, necessarily, but the fact that I'm in that position, circumstance, bring that knowledge to me.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like the intent and will that I'm being put in, the position, pulls those information to me.
The circumstances works in this planet that important information comes my way and I want to pass a message on which I forgot to pass.
There is a lot of talk about using nuclear weapons in the Middle East with some Russian saying that maybe nuclear weapons might be used or hinting at that.
Here is a message to anyone who thinks or plans to use nuclear weapons anywhere your orders have come in to dismantle all nuclear weapons and take them back to the scrapyard if it turns out that all those orders were not followed your heads will be on the plate served in the next peace treaty whoever
goes against Direct command from the establishment to deactivate, stop using the nuclear weapons.
There will be no place for you on the table other than your head being on a plate.
I'll keep it at that.
Okay?
Okay.
People know who I am.
Those who are in command know who I am, what I'm saying, who I am.
And here is for them to really, really have a good understanding of what they need to do.
So, it might be for selling to your public and doing it, but if it's seen in your hand or commands are coming out of you, every line where that command comes in and goes out and whoever activates it will not have a good day.
Okay?
Okay.
Alright, so I guess thank you very much, Cameron, for taking the time for the delightful history lesson and for going into the rest as well.
And people will take this for what it's worth to them and do with it what they will.
And I hope that we can have you back and we'll talk again in the future.
Okay?
Very good.
Thank you very much for having me.
Okay.
All right.
And I'm sorry we're not getting to...
I don't really see any substantial questions here, but I have to say that perhaps they can write the questions to you, and we'll put your email address out there.
Do you want to say your email address, or do you want me to just...
Put it, put it, put it on the screen.
Okay, we'll do that.
All right.
Thank you again.
Thank you very much.
Goodbye.
Thank you.
And I'm going to be back with Sean David Morton at 7pm Pacific Time tonight.
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