PCTV : KERRI RIVERA : AUTISM AND HEALING - PART TWO
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What, and I know that Andreas Kalker worked with you for a period of time because he had a child who was healed.
No, Andreas Kalker has three healthy girls.
Oh, okay.
Well, actually, it wasn't his child.
I actually met him in Europe where he was...
Living at the time, I think, in Spain.
And he had had, I think, debilitating, what do you call that, arthritis?
Arthritis, yeah.
That's how he got into the chlorine dioxide world.
Interestingly enough, Andreas, for instance, in 2011, early 2011, I went to meet Jim Humble when there were already recoveries because I wanted to thank him.
There was like 18 recoveries at the time.
And I said, I need to go meet this man and thank him for having walked this very difficult path until I could find him.
And so I went to the Dominican Republic to meet Jim and give him a hug.
And that was kind of the beginning of our relationship where, you know, that we had, you know, more communication.
And then at that same time, people that I was working with in Spain were doing enemas and they were getting these long parasites out.
At the same time the long parasites were coming out, the child was going like quickly for recovery.
You know, basically like every bunch of worms out, the kid was saying more things and more connected and more...
And so then that was like February, March, April.
Jim tells me, I want you to meet my friend, Andreas Kalker.
So Andreas and I set up a Skype call.
First time I ever used Skype.
Him and his wife at the time were on the call.
And we were talking and he said, Carrie, that's not candida that you're seeing coming out.
Those are parasites, dead parasites.
I mean, they were, you know, completely, you could wash them.
They were completely intact because parasites are a protein.
They're not a mucus.
You know, the people are saying, ah, it's stomach lining.
I mean, there's no paratonitis.
Nobody's dying.
People are actually, instead of dying, getting sick, they're recovering and getting well.
So this was one of my first recoveries also was this child who was doing these enemas.
So Andrea's wife was saying that she had parasite problems and it was causing her all kinds of physical issues as well, like the kids, and that they were working with many different substances and they were looking at doing a parasite protocol.
So they did.
So by October of 2011, we had their first official parasite protocol, which was using Pamoatopirantel, Mabendazol, Neem, Stonebreaker, Rumpid Piedra, Lepidium Latifolium, it's called, Castor Oil, and Diatomaceous Earth.
So we started using that.
And of course, with the animas, with that, lots of parasites seeing, lots of children healing, getting better, you know, as this was happening.
And so little by little, we just started seeing, you know, exponentially the numbers increase.
A recovery going up.
So now we have 40 recoveries.
I don't know, 68, something like this.
And so it was happening that we knew parasites were now a root problem.
And of course the parasite brings with it a whole other problem.
And it also shows a lot of things.
Like all of us were doing lab testing all those years and we saw the ammonia was really high.
Parasites release ammonia.
Oxalates are really high.
Parasites defecate oxalates.
It was like B12 was low because parasites love B12 and iron.
Iron was low.
A lot of our kids were anemic.
So everything that the parasites did to us, oh, also histamine is big in parasites.
So all these food allergies are not real allergies for the most part.
And of course, dairy and wheat, these are allergies we have to always avoid.
But we would see our kids were allergic to everything, even the air they breathed.
You say, how is this possible?
What was the histamine altering the immunoglobulin in the test?
So there were a lot of things that were now coming into focus, which Andreas was giving all of this information to for the first time.
I would go to him and I would say, no, Andreas, he needs Valtrex because he's showing virus this, that, these, and those.
He's like, Carrie, how do you know?
Is it the immunoglobulin?
Well, it's affected by the histamine.
So all of a sudden you're going, wow, so it's a parasite thing.
So six degrees of separation, we were always going back to the parasite.
So people say, well, that's that parasite protocol for CD. No.
Chlorine dioxide is specifically for the biofilm.
What's in the biofilm?
Virus, bacteria, candida, heavy metals, and the parasites.
So it's just one part of it.
But we had to actually come up with, or Andreas had to come up with the parasite protocol in order to really get to the parasites.
The parasites are big, you know, and they're pretty well structured.
They have a reproductive system and they have a digestive system.
So, you know, they're not like Candida.
They're not that easy to take down.
So while the chlorine dioxide will alter their environment and make them, it's less hospitable to them, and some will die.
So, you know, some people start the chlorine dioxide in the enemas, and they're seeing parasites right away.
But some of us have to actually add in the parasite protocol to really, you know, kind of see The sea of parasites coming out of our children, and as the parasites are coming out, we're seeing our children emerge and getting better.
So Andreas and Miriam Carrasco were absolutely instrumental in the whole parasite piece, because really no doctor was talking about parasites in biomedical world at all.
There was Dr.
Klinghart, Dr.
Simon Yu, I think there was a Dr.
Schwartz, but other than that, internationally, there was really nobody else saying parasite.
Those words just weren't happening.
Everybody was talking about candida, Heavy metals.
Some people were talking about bacteria.
If there was a Lyme diagnosis in there, they would, you know, do some IV antibiotics, which in the end will just throw the person backwards even when that ended.
So we were now at a whole new possibility.
Okay.
Thank you for all of that.
What I'm wondering is, is this the sort of thing where you are continuing the treatment then so that, for example, your son or other children, even though they show a certain improvement You continue the treatment beyond that point.
Right, because it's like low and slow.
We're chiseling away at the diagnosis.
And I liken this to, you know how they used to dig their way out of Alcatraz with a spoon?
You know, nobody would know when they got that hole in the wall.
You know, you just go little by little by little by little so you don't disturb anybody.
So you're not destroying the kid.
And we used to do with the biomedical, they'd go with an atomic bomb.
The kid would be regressed now for nine months, totally thrown backwards.
You know, what happened to my kid?
They're worse than when they started this IV chelation.
They're worse than when they started this antibiotic treatment.
So they really weren't getting better because we were still looking very allopathically, very much into the pharmacy for the healing that caused, the pharmacy caused the problem to begin with.
So, you know, we were going the wrong direction.
Okay, fair enough.
Now, in terms of the landscape out there, there's a lot of very hostile people and people that are highly, I guess, well, there's certainly a push on the government side to prevent even using MMS right now.
I don't know that they can prevent the use of Literally chloride dioxide if you don't buy it in a certain way.
But I know that I'm not sure what's going on.
I know Andreas used to supply it.
I don't know if he still does.
I know Jim Humble has the MMS. It's labeled as such, I believe.
And in some countries, you can't get that now, is what I've heard.
I don't know of any country where you can't get chlorine dioxide.
Chlorine dioxide is used in a lot of the water treatment facilities internationally.
So basically, I work with families in 60 countries.
They all get it from the internet.
Well, actually, I don't know about how it works, but I know that there's a guy who has actually tried and He was actually convicted, and I don't have his name in front of me.
I interviewed him.
His name is Daniel.
Daniel was selling and promoting in the United States the use of chlorine dioxide for healing and curing diseases, and you could hang yourself even if you were selling B12 shots like that.
Okay, my understanding is he wasn't actually promoting it.
All he was doing was he had a store, and I don't think it was an online store.
And I don't think it was necessarily his store, but he was a supplier, something like that.
He was an online store, Project Green Life, that people were still buying for him up until recently.
Uh-huh.
So, yeah, maybe that's him.
So what I'm wondering about that is...
How do you deal with all of that?
In other words, there will be people that will say, okay, because I know that I had a certain supplier that I was having an ad on my website, and then they were not able to supply anymore.
So are you finding places you can buy this at?
Everywhere in the world you can buy chlorine dioxide.
I haven't found a place where you can't buy chlorine dioxide.
It's sodium chloride with the activator everywhere.
Like I said, we have more than 60 countries represented and families that are doing the protocol, and they're able to get it in all their countries.
Even in the Middle East, my family's from Qatar.
Do they buy the two things separately?
Is that how it works?
They come in a package usually.
Usually they come in a package.
Two bottles, one of the sodium chloride and one of the activator and then you mix them together and you get the chlorine dioxide that way.
Okay, and so you've seen it being sold at very...
Do you have links like on your website?
No, I don't have links on my website.
In my Facebook groups, we have where people can buy it, but yeah, you can...
Chlorine dioxide is more correct, the term, than MMS. MMS is kind of like a red flag for the government.
But the other thing you brought up was the government wants people not to use it, which I think is a reason to run towards it, because the government wants those to be vaccinating, even pregnant women.
I mean, what's happening right now in California is absolutely taking the rights away, so there's no constitution now.
Okay, yeah, and so what you're saying is if people are interested in this, you know, I just want to make it possible for them to be able to find it.
I don't sell any products, but chlorine dioxide is available at many websites on the internet.
One is water purification.
There's a lot of them.
Water purification it's known as as well.
Water purification, okay.
So you're saying that they could go to your Facebook page?
If you go to my website, the website is, you have it right now, it's cdautism.com or cdautism.org.
I'm trying to actually share this on the screen, but it doesn't seem to be...
Yeah, there's information.
We have a forum there.
There's Facebook groups.
There's Facebook groups in about 10 or 12 languages, maybe 14 languages now.
The main one is in English.
There's about 7,000 people there all over the world doing the protocol with support.
I do, obviously, consults via Skype with people internationally all day long.
But at the same time, there's a lot of people that bought the book and just started doing it on their own.
And I've seen people recover their kids without ever talking to me.
So...
Okay.
All right.
Very good.
So in terms of, I guess, when you got into all of this, is this something that is your ongoing sort of concern?
Are there changes that you're coming across, or have you learned more things about autism that you'd like to share?
Actually, there was a big aha moment this year.
Very unfortunate, but at the same time, I think that we have to learn and we have to open our eyes to things that are happening.
One of the steps in my protocol is GCMAF, which is a macrophage activation.
And this started back in 2010, basically 2009-2010, out of England, and there was a group that was making something called GCMath.
And GCMath was curing cancer.
So this Dr.
Jeff Bradstreet, who was probably one of the best and brightest doctors No question, best and brightest of the doctors recovering children in the United States from autism.
Dr.
Bradstreet began to use GCMAF with children with autism in 2010, saying there was a connection with this nagelase, that there was high nagelase in cancer, high nagelase in autism, because there's high nagelase when there's virus.
Anyway, it's a marker for illness, and we can So you can even see illness before you could see it on an x-ray, for instance, or in a CAT scan.
So you could see, you know, there was a problem.
Anyway, so he started using it in a group of kids.
And then this group of kids, 15% recovered.
You know, some number like this.
And so then it was starting to become more popular in the autism community for treating and healing autism.
And he was having really good results with this.
And again, he pioneered, he was an absolute pioneer in his field.
And in March of this year, some of the offices were rated, the labs were rated that were making GCMAP. And this stuff was all...
It had the seal of approval from the ISO and from the, I think it's in Britain, the FDA is called like good medical practice, this kind of thing.
Same companies that gave them their seal of approval that everything was fine.
They came in and said, oh no, it was dirty.
The labs were not in conditions and You know, stories, obviously, fabricated stories so that people wouldn't get it.
So they took everything.
They took all the documentation.
At the same time, Dr.
Bradstreet in the United States had all of his computers with all the information and things of this nature of his testing over the last four years with the kids.
Well, anyway...
So now in June of 2015, he's found as a suicide, quote-unquote suicide, that he shot himself in the chest, threw himself in a river, and the gun was found somewhere nearby.
Oh, my God.
The pioneer fighting.
This man has done such good work.
This is not a person that's going to take their own life.
He just presented Autism One only weeks prior with more good news and more research.
These are people that don't go down.
They're not taking their life.
A doctor probably wouldn't choose to shoot himself in the chest as a method, even if that was the intention.
The Bradstreet family They hired private investigators to get to the bottom of it because, of course, everybody believes this is a murder, and the other side wants to close the case.
So we're hoping that there's going to be some restitution, that we finally get the truth about what happened to dear Dr.
Bradstreet, who gave us so much information on how to heal our kids.
So fast forward, one of the things that I think is really important is that we still use this GC math.
So one of the groups that was doing GCMAF prior to the closure, et cetera, et cetera, have reopened in another location in Europe, and they're shipping to the United States and all over the world.
So firstproengineering.com, we're using product number two.
It's a sublingual spray, so it's easy to apply for our kids, and it's just more macrophage.
And the macrophage are the scavengers of the immune system that pick up toxins and other pathogens.
And what the beauty of it is, They also pick up larvae from the parasites.
So as we're seeing parasites, parasites, parasites, how do you get to the bottom of the parasite?
By getting rid of the larvae.
So now I see the importance of the work, you know, because you can say, well, I can get rid of Candida, I can get rid of bacteria with chlorine dioxide, but we're having a hard time with the larvae.
Really nothing was getting at that root problem.
And of course ammonia is another big problem with the parasites.
And also the macrophages get rid of the ammonia.
Now there's a lot more excitement as to maybe this whole parasite thing is going to come to an end.
So we've kind of pushed up the GCMAF, macrophage, into the protocol sooner than later.
Okay, so what is this GCMAF? It's macrophage.
Basically what it is, it's more macrophage, which are the scavengers.
I don't know what that means, that word.
They're an immune system scavenger.
So imagine they're like little grabbers, like little garbage cans.
I mean, that's how I see them, is like little garbage collectors.
And they grab up, kind of like guppies.
You know, they grab up everything that's not supposed to be there.
And so with viruses, they make them function back normally.
And with other pathogens, they take them to the liver to be processed and moved out of the body.
So we don't...
What you would call, I mean, are these pills that they sell in a health food store?
What are we talking about?
It's spray that you buy online from a company that's open in Europe called firstproengineering.com.
So you buy it online.
We've always bought GC Math online.
That was normal from Europe to buy it.
It just, they reopened and there they are.
Okay.
And it's a spray now.
We used to do injectable.
So the spray, which sublingual, so it goes right into the lymph system.
It's, you know, a shortcut to the immune system.
It's so easy to apply.
And we're using the, like I said, product number two is for autism.
They have other product number one for cancer.
So they do a lot of other things.
Autism was never really their first, by far, was it their first focus.
But Dr.
Bradstreet came along and, you know, he put it really on the map.
He is the man with Dr.
Marco Ruggiero, who wrote the GC Math section of my book.
Okay, and this is something you're also using for your son, I assume?
Of course, of course.
And with my son, you can't always see when the immune system is working better.
You can't always get a full picture of it.
So it's definitely something we need to leave in for the long term until they're healed.
But at the same time, my son, it was interesting because once a month he would go with one of his friends to her pool and I would sit with the mother and we would talk while the kids played.
And she's a neurotypical girl.
And the first month we went, it was kind of right when I had started the GC Math a couple years ago.
And the first month, you know, he preferred to be in the pool by himself, even though she was there, she would try to make him play with her, but he wasn't so interested in the social aspect.
Then month two, less time was he spending underwater and more time he was spending playing with the ball.
Then month three, he was actually playing in the shallow end like Frisbee with a couple other girls and a ball and other things.
So he was no longer really just by himself in the deep end with her kind of trying to pull him in.
And then it was maybe April, month four, something like that.
The mother says, Carrie, do you see this?
He was on the pool deck.
Now the pool is his favorite place in the world.
He was on the pool deck playing a jump rope game that he knew all the moves to because obviously the friend had taught him all these things.
And he was standing in line waiting his turn while the other ones took their turn.
And then I waved at him and he like waved back like, come on, you're embarrassing me.
You know, I'm with my friends.
Can't you see?
No respect.
He really became far more social.
And so that was a really big piece for us as well that he moved kind of like from like that more like I need to be in the water by myself doing whatever feels good to I want to be with these other people because it feels good to be with other people.
And that was his choice.
You know, playing those games on the pool deck and still being in and out of the pool, even though the pool was there, which was the biggest draw to him.
So that was one of the things.
And I get kids that get more speech.
Or one of my children just had a consult with the mother the other day, and she was afraid to start because everything he got worse with.
He was okay on the protocol, but still, like many things that she would add, he would get a little bit worse or have some regression.
We started with the first spray.
He got calmer.
We were kind of waiting like, oh, I hope it's going to be...
He got calmer and he actually started to say a word the other day because I talked to the mom this weekend.
And I mean, you know, sometimes these little miracles can kind of happen.
And again, they don't let big miracles like, oh, gosh, I'm so glad you got me out of there.
Now I'm going to talk, talk, talk.
It doesn't always work like that.
But at the same time, Dr.
Bradstreet, I believe he gave his life for us.
And I think that to stop saying that this is working and GCMAF and all the miracles that have come, miracles, blessings, however you want to see it, that have come out of these things that are really, you know, they're our own, you know, our bodies are pretty miraculous.
So it's just basically more macrophage, more immune system for us.
Okay, you know, what I want to do here, if at all possible, is take questions from the audience.
We do have a small audience live here, and so that would be great if we could do that.
However, I don't know if my producer is seeing any questions.
I don't have access to the area that normally I see where there are questions.
Not sure why there weren't.
That wasn't sort of Didn't accompany this particular Google hangout there.
You know, we're still figuring out things and why certain things work and certain things don't.
On Google, it's a never-ending story.
But at any rate, it doesn't look like we've got access to questions.
But you know, Carrie, we could also just post my email.
So if people have any questions, I mean, I'm more than happy to answer that email.
My name is Carrie Rivera.
It's K-E-R. Here we go right here.
Keri Rivera, K-E-R-R-I-R-I-V-E-R-A at yahoo.com.
And so if they have any questions or they need to know where to buy something or, you know, I can send them a link or whatever.
Because a lot of people do want to know where to get it.
Keri Rivera at yahoo.com, is that right?
Keri Rivera, K-E-R-R-I, Rivera at yahoo.com.
Okay.
So...
Perhaps we can get that posted and we'll put that on the YouTube page so people will be able to see it.
And the book is at Amazon.com if they need the book.
Amazon.com or CDAutism.com, either way.
Yes.
Okay, great.
And that's very good.
In terms of where you're going now, you said that you were writing another book, is that right?
Right now I'm working on an edition of, basically it's healing the symptoms known as everything else that people keep using the protocol for, that they're getting rid of the symptoms.
So for instance, the father of the boy, the fellow who just started college, the university this month, He was a long time Lyme sufferer.
He even had a PICC line.
He used to do IV antibiotics and he still didn't recover from it.
But he started the protocol with his son based on his weight and he no longer has Lyme.
No symptoms of Lyme.
He tests negative for Lyme.
And I have several parents that have had that exact same experience.
I had another mother who had fibromyalgia.
And a lot of my parents will do the protocols along with their children just to see how they feel and everything.
And she lost her fibromyalgia.
She said, oh, hey, by the way, I'm not suffering this anymore.
So little by little, these things are happening.
And of course, some of my people who come over with chronic illnesses, they heard from another person that kind of came in and...
Again, after about three or four months, wow, I mean, I feel better than I felt in 20 years.
So it's exciting.
Of course, they're passing parasites and the fear, anxiety, depression.
These things are all becoming, you know, like symptoms of the past, and they're not like that anymore.
One young fellow here in his 30s, I had a consult with him, and he called me just to say thank you.
You know, six months later, he was able to have a job, a girlfriend, all of the, you know, the anxiety, fear, depression that kept him in his house.
It no longer held him there anymore because parasites, really anxiety and all those depression come from parasites.
So once you start to get rid of that population, you start feeling a lot better.
Okay, excellent.
As far as any, you know, we've been on for a while, so I will let you go shortly.
But I just want to make sure to cover any other bases that you that you might You know, that might occur to you.
Are you doing any events in the near future that people might go see you speak or anything of that nature?
I'm a little bit too controversial now to go speak because really the limitations now with what these internet trolls, which are basically, you know, pharma-paid henchmen.
They're very smart.
They're very creative in how they can make life difficult.
But I also believe that it's been an opportunity for me, instead of it staying that way, that I can reach far more people doing webinars and online things because I work with people all over the world.
So it's very difficult to say, like, for instance, Autism One in Chicago, hey, everyone come to Chicago and see me.
Sure, you can give hugs to the moms or the families that come to see you.
It's really nice to see the smiles in people to meet.
But it's also probably not the best use of everyone's time and money.
I still encourage people to stay home.
Buy your things online.
Do the protocols.
Invest your money wisely in your child's recovery.
Buy the best food you can buy for them.
Buy the GCMAB. Even if it's just a little bit of money, and you do a little bit of money a lot, it gets expensive.
And even if we have a lot of money, we could also spend it on more therapy.
I just think it does really stick more with the plan.
So I'm pretty much doing everything online now.
Oh, you are?
Okay.
Well, great.
And here we have your website.
We've had it on the screen a couple of times.
I'm going to put it on one more time here so that we can...
Make sure that everyone sees it and give them a chance to make sure that they can find it.
I did a wonderful—I'm sorry to interrupt you.
In Autism 1, 2015, I did my last public speaking, and basically what I did was I set the record straight what chlorine dioxide is and what it isn't.
Chlorine dioxide is not Clorox bleach.
That is actually sodium hypochlorite.
This is chlorine dioxide.
Chlorine dioxide is a pro-oxidant from the family of oxygen, ozone, Hydrogen peroxide and chlorine dioxide.
And basically what I did was, with the help of all my wonderful supporters of what I do, we got a lot of information together.
And there's a PowerPoint presentation that's on YouTube.
So if you put in Autism One 2015, Carrie Rivera, it will come up.
Or if you go to autismone.org, autismone.org, and you put in Carrie Rivera 2015, you will also get it.
But it really is all the proof that those stories of bleach and quackery and craziness, I mean, it just proves that it's not the case.
But of course, when you look back at how our society is right now, how our government is pushing the vaccines and drugs and all these kinds of things, and you see somebody come along and say, hey, if you buy this $30 treatment that I don't even sell it, it'll last you about six, seven months, depending on the size of the person, anywhere between...
Three months and six months, this $30 investment will last you.
And like I said, I mean, how many cents did I use on that first day with my son?
Not even one penny, I'm sure.
And my son was light years from where he was the day before.
And this kind of stuff can happen.
And no one's saying miracle.
Oh, okay, the miracle and the mineral.
But I mean, chlorine dioxide, it works because chlorine dioxide kills pathogens.
And of course, it's only 0.95 in its voltage.
So if the body is 1.28, the 0.95 can't harm it.
It's less than.
Plus, it's a positively charged molecule.
So it repels with the healthy cells, which are also positively charged.
So many, many reasons.
And of course, all the websites are listed on my PowerPoint presentation and the wonderful...
And creative Dan Bender, who's one of my co-authors on the book, he went ahead and did the PowerPoint presentation so that it stays up there with the information so people can grab it as well as see me talking at the same time.
So if you get a chance and you have any doubts about whether chlorine dioxide could help your child or your family, all the websites are there for you to look it up.
And most of the websites come from the EPA Or the FDA, usually you have to call it chlorine dioxide and you start saying, hey, this stuff is really, really important.
Just don't call it MMS because the MMS is what, you know, it's kind of like that buzzword where they got like the kick me sign, you know?
Anyway, so chlorine dioxide is why we call it.
Let me ask you, just here as we wrap up, can you basically, for yourself, just to protect you and the situation here, So we are both not giving medical advice or professional diagnosis, opinion, or treatment services.
You're not doing that, I assume, and you can acknowledge that.
And then to the people listening.
Right.
Basically what we're doing is we're sharing stories.
Even the book has the last 150 pages are basically testimonies of people who have used a protocol to recover the health of their children.
So they went from, you know, even if you want to look at the labs, they went with virus and bacteria and candida and parasites and all these things, and they come out without all those things, and now they're, you know, They're 15 years old and they're on the student body council and their, you know, friends are coming over and, I mean, life is completely changed.
So we're sharing the stories and, of course, the things that we're seeing and how we've used it and how everybody else is using it.
So it's a lot more sharing than it is anything else.
And we're not saying don't have a doctor.
All we're saying is, you know, there's lots of different ways to do things.
And, of course, if we all work together supportively of that person's recovery, You know, together with their medical professional that they use, or if they choose not to use one, I mean, everybody has their own opinions on how they're going to do things.
So, yeah, I mean, we just have to share because it is just something that's happening over and over again, and we're able to repeat the same story of healing.
Okay.
Now, I did find some questions here over in my Skype.
Someone wants you to spell out first pro-engineering URL. Okay, so it's the number one, and then ST, so first, number one, ST, pro, P-R-O, and then engineering, E-N-G-I-N-E-E-R-I-N-G.com.
Okay, and someone wants to say, GCMAF has an F at the end, so how do you spell that?
G-C-M-A-F. Okay, as in Frank at the end.
Right, right.
So, and this is some, again, where people can go for that.
Right, they ship it to you.
Okay, so is that the Pro, First Pro Engineering site, or where does it...
That's their website.
That's where they sell GC Math.
Okay.
And someone else wants to know if GC Math would still help.
They detoxed extensively with CD for about...
Three years effectively and the autism and Lyme disease is gone.
Well, if they no longer have anything wrong, then I wouldn't bother with anything else.
I mean, there's no need.
If the recovery happened, the healing has happened, then it's fine.
But some of my families three years later, and not all of them, but some of them are still seeing parasites.
So, you know, I think that some of our families have a real root in parasitic infection.
And how do you get the larva?
The larva seems to go kind of undetected by herbs or by drugs.
So how do we really get rid of the larva piece?
And of course, any parasite in the body At a certain point is laying eggs.
So we have this very, very small thing we can't see.
Only the immune system can see it.
So I would say definitely at that point if you're still seeing parasites and you're still having issues with the parasites, even if you don't have symptoms of it, I would definitely do probably one bottle.
And the bottle, the price, people say it's very, very expensive.
It costs about $400 for the bottle.
But the bottle lasts about six months because we're only doing one spray under the tongue every three days and then we shrink it every two days.
It's still, it lasts about six months.
So while it's expensive, it's the only expensive piece of the protocol because everything else you can buy online, it's pretty cheap.
All right.
Okay.
Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.
And, you know, you're very eloquent.
I think we've covered a great deal of ground here.
During this conversation, and I think everyone will be very interested to hear what you have to say.
Obviously, this goes onto YouTube, and we'll have a life beyond this live presentation.
Wonderful.
Yeah, because a lot of people that I know from the Facebook groups would love to be able to see and to hear.
And I'd like to be able to share it with them.
So whenever you have a link, I'll be more than happy to share it with them.
And thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk with you.
You and Project Camelot come with a lot of fame from my side.