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Jan. 19, 2015 - Project Camelot
01:28:53
PROJECT CAMELOT: CHEUK FEI "MJ13" HONG KONG UFOS
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Recognize who you are.
Begin to push the envelope of your potentiality.
We are more than we give ourselves credit for.
And multiple on and off world races have a vested interest in seeing that you don't learn the truth.
We bow to no one.
If humanity is so quick to allow other races of beings to take over and run things and tell them what is and is not true, this becomes hugely problematic.
Think of it this way.
If humanity is made up of a genome of 12 or more ET races, then how is it we would be subservient or lesser than any of those races?
Ask yourself this.
Understanding what we are made of is key to understanding what our true potential is.
Once you realize this, then child as father to the man becomes much more real.
The fact is we may end up being their teachers rather than the other way around.
Humanity is a genetic experiment.
We are a genetic library.
Given that knowledge of our potential is likely even greater than the sum of our hearts, our potential is unlimited as a result.
Hi everyone, this is Carrie Cassidy and I'm here with Philip, also known as MJ13, which is I think his own Bit of a joke there, but we'll talk to him about that.
He's basically, I believe, you're a television host in Hong Kong, correct?
Is that correct?
Yeah, I host two internet radio shows in Hong Kong, and I host a local radio show in Hong Kong as well.
In the internet radio, they have the visual, so you can say yes, it's a TV show.
Okay, yes.
So it's an internet TV show, just like we're doing here.
And I was your guest one time.
Is that right?
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Very welcome for coming to Hong Kong and come to my show.
It was my really honor to have you in my show.
And I'm basically really thrilled when you say, when you invite me to the show on Project Camelot.
Thank you.
Okay, wonderful.
And I'm going to read your bio here for everyone, so if you just stand by for one minute, it's...
I'm going to just try to get this logistically.
Make it so it's easy enough to read.
Okay, so Philip is a TV investigator from Hong Kong.
He investigates UFO incidents.
He's also, as we said, a A TV host of what he calls MJ13 and Hidden Messages.
He's the radio host of Area 51, a digital broadcast radio station, and the author of the book UFO. And your last, your name is Chuck, how do you say this?
Chuck Fe?
Chuck Fe, yes.
Chuck Fe.
That is basically a Chinese pronunciation of my name.
Basically, most of the Hong Kong people, they have three characters.
I have three characters.
So it's more people more easy to remember that.
Okay, great.
And then it says, you saw an orange sphere UFO when you were 13 on the roof of a building with your father and sisters, and you were obsessed by UFO incidents ever since.
In your book, you introduce a local alien abduction case that happened in Hong Kong, and I hope to be able to talk to you about that.
You escaped several accidents that almost cost you your life, a motorcycle accident, a repelling accident.
The 9-11 crisis as well as the tsunami in Southeast Asia.
So I want to hear all about that.
And you are a second grade student of the Japanese Iedo, Japanese traditional swordmanship.
You fill up your time by Zen of Buddhism and believe everything happens for a reason.
um you've led two teams of local fans on a visit to the area 51 and the enchantment resort at sedona arizona which is a wonderful place and one of my favorite places and snowflake of arizona as well uh you've interviewed several well-known uh people on the ufo circuit and those those names are are listed here on the on the camelot website and uh
So, from there, what I'd like to do is get you to augment this by giving us something of a biography of your early life and explain what happened when you saw your first UFO. Oh, yeah.
As I remember, that was 13 years old, and at those days in Hong Kong, not many people have air-conditioned You know, at home.
Because in those days, people should know that in Hong Kong there are a lot of buildings.
And we are living on a building in a quite crowded area.
And just the opposite side of the building is a roof.
It's like the two sides.
I think dinner at night and my father usually bring me and my sisters, they were twins, go up to the roof and get some space and play because in Hong Kong most of the rest of them is quite small.
So after the dinner, we all went up to the roof and played, and my sister was playing like usual, and I was watching the stars and watching the sky with my father.
And then suddenly my father pointed one area, one direction, and said, what is that?
And then I looked at it, I saw something like, the color is more like an orange color, but inside the sphere is like red.
And it's not too bright, but it's definitely not the star, because I can see it's moving.
And it starts to move, like turning, like that way.
Turning and then, like maybe after three or four turns, and then it goes down behind the hillside.
And actually me and my sister were pretty scared, because we don't know what that was.
And then we tell my father to go.
But my father is kind of open-minded people.
He was a policeman, and then he became a taxi driver, but he had a really open mind.
He said, no, of course, something so special, we should have stayed and see what it is.
And then after probably the sighting, you know, as long as like five minutes, and then it disappeared, and then it's right behind the sight, and then it's gone.
And that is the first sighting I had.
And after that, of course, I have a lot of sightings after that.
But my brother, my brother used to buy some books, some little, like a pocket-sized book from Taiwan.
And those books are usually talked about something unexplained, like the disappearing, like the UFOs, like the spirits or the ghost story, that kind of story.
And it's really attracting me.
But the point is, I have Chinese dyslexia, so I have really trouble to read Chinese.
You know, the word, maybe, I may skip some words, and then after a whole sentence, read, and I cannot remember the meaning.
So basically, I just flick through the illustration and the photos, you know, some of the black and white photos of the UFO, some of the sighting photos, and people draw out the aliens they saw.
It's really attractive, and then I start to get You can say, addicted to the UFO stories and then start to study it myself and buy a lot of books and read the stories.
That's how I start to get into this kind of UFO information.
Okay.
Can you tell us about these life-death experiences that you had?
Why did you have so many close-to-death circumstances?
Do you know?
Yeah, well basically because I am not very good on studying and but I'm kind of naughty boy when I was kid.
I like motorcycles and because of the speed and even my My mother and my father, they don't really like me to ride it but I still enjoy it.
So I ride motorcycle one day and then when I'm stopped outside the payroll of the tunnel and then a taxi behind me hit to my car.
He hit to my bike and then the bike just jumped off and I was standing in front of the paying counter.
And I thought it was nothing.
I thought everything okay.
Even the staff coming over and asked me, do I need an ambulance?
I said, no, I'm fine.
I'm fine.
But my bike just jumped off and hit to another car in front of me.
And there was a lady inside the car and opened the window and pointed to my legs and said, hey, you look at your legs.
When I look at my legs, my jeans is gone.
And then I see the butt is spraying out from my jeans.
So then I talk to the staff, wait a second, I need an ambulance now.
And then drive me to the hospital and I lost a lot of blood.
And the doctor invest my legs and say, you just got little...
Because we can see your vein in your wound already.
So the taxi behind you keeps you a little bit harder.
Then you may lose a lot of blood, then you may die.
That is the first incident I had.
And then, also because I'm afraid of height, so I try to do something exciting and try to train my, you know, make me feel more easier to get used to the height.
So I try those rattling, you know, abseiling like a rope, like those walking people.
I slip because I grab a wrong...
And then I dropped from like second floor to the ground, all the way to the ground.
And I was so lucky because I hit on the ground on my shoulders, the sign of my shoulder, so that's why I have a broken joint here.
But nothing else has caused me more damage.
Wow.
And that was the second time.
And also, I liked the United States when I was like 20-something.
So I fly to Los Angeles a lot.
And then I met some friends from the internet.
So I fly to Cleveland to see one of my friends.
And then after I finished visiting my friend from Cleveland, I went to fly back to Los Angeles.
And I almost get on the flight, I get on the plane and hit to the Pentagon.
Or Pennsylvania.
I don't know which one it is.
But I thought it was Luke and I overslept and I missed the plane.
You're kidding.
No, I'm not kidding.
And my mom, because before I fly to the States, I tell everything, all the locations I will go to my mom.
And my mom has no clue about anywhere in Cleveland, anywhere in Los Angeles or anything.
She doesn't know anything about the States.
But to remember the name, I told her, And then it was played on the news about the name and she knew maybe I'm somewhere on that area so she's kind of worried and she tried to give me a call.
But I was over select and the phone had our battery so she cannot reach me for the whole morning in Hong Kong.
For when the 911 crisis.
So she was so early and then by the time I get my charger and charge my phone, I want to call back to my mom and say everything is okay.
When the phone picked up from my sister, I hear my mom screaming and crying behind the phone because she thought I'm dead.
But actually because I missed the plane, I fell asleep and I missed the plane.
So that's why I couldn't get on the plane and that's why you can still talk to me right now.
Oh my!
And also the tsunami.
I went to Bangkok at that day and actually two days ago I talked to my friends and we're about to go to the area where the tsunami affects the whole area like Phuket or that kind of area.
But my friends don't feel good and they cancelled to go to Phuket.
So we stayed in Bangkok.
And if we went to the bouquet, we would have stayed in the beach area and faced tsunami face-to-face.
Incredible!
Yeah, so a few crisis-filled cases like this, a few easements like this, and I think I'm almost really close to that, especially when I was in crisis.
Because when I get up on bed in the motel and I say, oh no, I missed the plane.
And I was so sad and I'm so angry about it because the night before there's a baseball game in Cleveland and I wanted to see it and after I see it I missed the plane because after some beer and then fall asleep, that kind of story.
So I think everything happened for a reason.
Originally I was a Christian and But after my job and I understand some of the stories in the Bible may not be correct or maybe people change the story or maybe rewrite the Bible because of so many other reasons.
So I start to step out a little bit from the Christian religion.
But I pick up the Buddhism from my father because my father is a Buddhist.
So, I pick up the story and I think, yeah, everything happened for a reason and I start to put more and more in my physical, my thinking way into the Buddhism.
Okay.
Well, very, very interesting stories and I'm glad you are still with us.
Obviously, you were not meant to be on that plane and you were protected, so here you are.
And that's one of the things, the sort of fates, one of the fates that happened to you in life.
Okay, so you wrote a book about UFOs and you've also gone to Area 51.
Can you talk about your book a bit and what kind of a book is it?
Why did you write it to begin with?
Oh yeah, the story goes back a few years ago because I stopped hosting the program in 2008.
At that time it's a new start, actually quite a beginning in Hong Kong about the internet radio.
Nobody really heard about it, but you know, like many other places, the original, the normal broadcast system like radio or TV, they're all licensed by the government.
So some of the information they cannot really tell.
For example, some sensitive information, You're not allowed to talk on the phone, or on the radio, or on the TV at all.
So the second thing, maybe the internet radio may help.
So I start doing a program, it's named Mystery Searchers, 2008.
And talk about the UFO stuff and talk about some new age information, ghost stories, that kind of thing.
So, people really like it because nobody really hears such crazy information for Hong Kong people at that time.
And I'm lucky I can get up to a cable TV, a local cable TV in Hong Kong and people know me better.
And one of the publishing companies want me to write a book.
I write a book about the UFO and the conspiracy and the ghost story.
I said, no, no, no, that's not a good way to put all these things together in one form.
I think UFO is UFO. And if you want to write about ghost story, I can write about ghost story the other day.
But UFO is UFO in one thing.
It should be in one thing.
So I started picking up my pen to write.
But, you know, my problem is I have dyslexia.
I cannot read Chinese really well, but I can read English.
And I start to write down everything in English and then start to try to translate it into Chinese.
You know, with a lot of mistakes, of course, and my wife helping me to do the collections.
And then, yes, this is the book I'm talking about.
You see, I even do the cover design with one thing like this, but if you open in both sides, you become a grave.
The eyes of the grave.
So anyway, when I start writing the book, and then I start writing the information, I think for most of my audience, they pretty much know the UFO story or the famous story.
So I start to write and then I start to stop from time to time because I don't know what to write on it.
And then one day, which is 2012 and March, 3rd of March actually, and I was sitting in front of the computer with my mind empty because I don't know what to write on it, but the time schedule is getting tight.
I had to rush it before the deadline.
And suddenly I received an email from somebody I don't know.
I just, for safety say, I called her Miss Ma, because that is not her real name, but I called her Miss Ma.
And she sent me an email and something like, I tried to read it out in English because it's Chinese, and it's something like, please help.
I am so afraid.
Something like last night my ears can hear a lot of high-pitched sound coming from the window and then from time to time it becomes some low-pitched sound.
And then my brain and my eyes You can see some blinking white lights, but my eyes were closed.
And I was so scared.
And then after some time, she opened up her eyes again.
Whatever she saw is distorted, like a fish lens eyes.
And then she was so scared and then she suddenly lost her memory and then she woke up on bed.
So she was so scared and sent me an email and said, I'm so confused, can you reply me please?
That is the email she wrote me.
And the subject is like to check pay and then back to urgent, that kind of thing.
So basically when you write an email to somebody, you don't expect The people who received an email will reply you right away.
But I was sitting in front of the computer.
So I saw the email and I just replied, really simple, I replied, can you give me your number so I can call you back?
And then she replied in like two or three minutes.
So you see, she is really desperate and she needs some help, she needs some advice.
She was sitting right in front of the computer and waiting for my reply.
So when I replied, and then she replied me back in two or three minutes, I called her back.
She was crying on the phone because she was so scared.
She doesn't know what to do.
And then I asked her the story, the basic story.
She said she saw a UFO a few days before.
It was like a rectangular shape, like a metal face hanging on the sky outside on daytime.
And then she said some kind of red light or white light blinking through her eyes when she saw that.
And she was hiding under the couch and looked through the window because she doesn't know what it is.
But then after some time, she suddenly remembers she was sitting Watching the TV. But when she saw the UFO, that was like, about this time, 11.30 in the morning.
But when she looked at TV, it was 5 o'clock.
So this is a missing time.
So at first, I think she may be crazy.
You know, because this is too easy to be true to me.
Because I host a program, but I don't expect someone to give me some information like this.
And I think maybe she's crazy.
So I do a lot of asking and talking on the phone.
I ask her whether she sees a lot of science fiction movies, maybe both.
And she's not that kind of person who really likes UFO stories or UFO movies.
But she saw some of them.
But she usually is staying home and watch TV because she doesn't really need to work.
She has a Beyonce and a really rich Beyonce.
So she doesn't really need to work.
And then she was so scared and so worried.
So after a long talk and then I start to pick up some Whatever information I have on my table, I pick up some books.
Some of the books, which is the investigation of beautiful cases, and in the book they have something like a questionnaire.
In the questionnaire, you answer the questionnaire and tell you how many chances you've been affected by the alien.
That is the only thing I can think of, because I'm also nervous, I'm also excited too, because this is the first time I have been facing someone who called herself an affective.
So I picked up the book and tried to answer all the questions with her.
She saw the white lights.
She remembered a lot of information, a lot of images projected into her brain.
But she doesn't know what that means.
And then, after a few weeks of talking, we met her and also got one of my friends who studied the Itso-Politics.
His name is Stan, and of course, because he's a real expert, I'm just a host.
So I asked him to help me to investigate his case, and Stan helped me, and we saw Ms.
Ma together.
During the talking and during the conversation, we realized she was not crazy, because she didn't The stories pretty much match up to the phone conversations you had with me.
But of course, she was really nervous on the phone, so something maybe not that connected, but still no big change.
The story, basically everything is the same.
So I tried to convince her, I tried to find somebody who can do the hypnosis for her, and we tell her, okay, usually what the people from the outside are from the other countries, What really happened when you saw the UFO and how come you suddenly lost your memory and then sit on the sofa and watching the TV? That is surreal to us.
So we explained to her that it's a missing time, but if you want to find out what's happening, we need to find the news.
So it's very difficult to find a therapy in Hong Kong because not many people understand what the UFO is in Hong Kong.
And also the therapy with hypnosis skills, they don't believe in UFOs at all.
So I find a friend of mine who is also a graduate, She holds the certificate of hypnosis, and she's a new age kind of spiritual people.
So I think, yeah, she's open-minded enough to do the hypnosis section with her.
So we arrange her to come on the room, her clinic, and then sit down together, and we report everything in the voice report.
And Lee and Stan went out to the room, stayed out of the room, and then they did the photos inside.
After three hours, and they all stepped out of the room.
And my friend told me, my friend is Nerissa.
Nerissa told me, I think, I think you actually have some experience.
But because she doesn't study UFO cases, she doesn't study abduction cases, so she doesn't know whether that is true.
So I picked the voice reporter back to home and listened again and again and again.
And what she saw is, during the section of Hedosa's section, she remembered she saw that UFO blinking some light to her.
And then she remembered to walk through The wall and the window and she's basically standing outside the building and she can saw the car driving behind her feet but she looked up she saw the lower part of the rectangle shape and then that is also remember and then after a long You know,
she knows as long as three hours and after some time she kind of quiet and lying on the bed and Nerissa keep on asking, what's happening?
What's happening next?
She starts to remember a lot of Human-shaped thing running around, walking around her, and she was lying on something like a table, but it's not a metal table, but some kind of table, with a box put on her belly for a long time.
The box is not heavy, but it's not too heavy, but it's not too light, so you're pressing on her belly for the whole time to remember.
And she remembers she walked down the table and walked around inside some area, some closed room.
And then she remembered the face, the facial expression, and what they looked like.
They looked like really tall, but with a lot of wrinkles on the face.
They're not grey, but they're basically It's human shape, but it's really polite.
It's probably six feet.
Quite a few of them.
And then that is also remember.
And we tried to do the second time of hypnosis with her, and she would feel uncomfortable with that.
So that was the only hypnosis section she had.
Yeah, that is basically her story.
But the funny thing is she starts to change.
The way she changes, after the hypnosis and after she finds out what's happening during the missing time, She has that kind of condition like the others, like the mentally collapse and she starts seeing things, she starts seeing a lot of images coming into her head and she certainly will hear some information to her head.
And the funny thing is whenever she wants to watch the TV, the TV will freeze.
She even showed me a video and she saw a TV and then the TV will freeze and then nothing can see on the TV. I thought maybe the TV has some malfunction, but it's not the case.
And then she get onto the internet, she showed me when she get onto the internet, Some of the information will pop up.
The information is like some kind of website, but when she wants to use Facebook and talk to her friend, and suddenly Facebook will freeze.
And she had a lot of cases like the watch will sudden stop, and that kind of story.
And then she started reading the information like the quantum physics, like the astral, You know, that kind of subject is really deep, like the space, like how the energy flow through to different media, that kind of information is kind of boring to most of the people, but she was like the normal people, but after the incident, she changed.
As you start to receive a lot of information and from time to time you will have that distort view again.
That distort view in a sense like you're wearing a fish eyes lens and you see everything like everything is distort.
The shape is distort.
And one of the funny incidents is she called me the other day.
She said she saw some blinking light when she got on the bed and her sister is sleeping behind her on the two-layer bed.
And then the next morning get up and her sister has eye problem.
Something uncomfortable.
So she went to see the doctor and the doctor said the lens is scratched.
But you don't know what the reason is.
But the funny thing is, on the same night she saw the blinking light, her sister dreaming about some reporter or some paparazzi using the camera with a lot of flash in front of her face.
So, you know, she actually may experience some, I don't know how you call it in English, but she may experience some blinking light, but she was in a dream.
So her mind may create a story like being photographed by a lot of reporters.
But her sister, which is Miss Ma, sleeping on the upper left of the bed, she saw the blinking light, but she was so scared.
And she was too scared to let her sister know she Probably maybe being affected by aliens because her sister don't believe anything at all.
So all this information add up.
And then after that, I remember I don't know what to write on my book.
So I asked her whether I am able to write the story into my book.
And that was about July.
She said, yes, you can write my story on the book, but I think your book will not be finished until November.
I told her, no, no, no, that is impossible because I had to rush the book to get out on August.
She said, no, your book will be finished by November and will be published in the middle of December.
I asked her, how do you know all this?
She said, I don't know, but somehow I got the information in my mind.
I got some probably like voices telling her that his book will be finished in the middle of December.
And then you know what?
I tried my best to finish the book, but I won't be able to finish it before the deadline of August.
So the publishing committee would say, no problem, but you have to rush to finish your book before the end of November.
I said, what?
I thought, you mean if I can get into this deadline, I have another year?
So she said, no, no, no, the publishing company said, no, no, no, you have to finish the book before the end of November.
And then I finished my book, before the end of November, I write down all the skips of her hypnosis section.
I mean, Nerissa, whatever Nerissa say, whatever Ms.
Ma say, I write down everything in my book.
It's pretty hard actually.
After I finished everything and sent back to the publishing company, the books print out at 15th of December.
By the time it finished publishing and sent to the bookstore, it was 18th of December.
So, this is more than constant.
And also a lot of cases, a lot of stories happening to me only, but she knew.
Ms.
Ma knows quite details, actually.
Even when I'm going to move my house, she'll even tell when I will move my house and when I will leave my job and go do a new job.
So, there's more than consequence.
I don't know how to explain it, but even up to now, she keeps on sending me messages.
I remember one day she was so scared and she sent me a WhatsApp message on 7th of March 2012.
She sent me a WhatsApp message and talked about she saw the red blinking light outside the window.
And then the lights go through to her room and she was hiding on the bed and so scared.
She used to escape to cover her hair.
She sent me messages like this and while I was driving my car back home, I saw that message and I almost crashed my car because I feel so nervous with her as well.
So up to now you asked me, I think this is one of the opportunities and I've checked with some people before.
And affection case is not only happening in the States or Western countries, in Hong Kong as well.
Even in China, we have a few quite famous affection case or contact case with the ETs.
So this is basically, I put my whole story in the book.
Okay.
Fascinating.
Okay, very, very interesting.
Well, have you been to China besides Hong Kong?
Did you actually go to China?
Yeah, yeah.
Before I started to be an internet radio host, I worked in Xinjiang in China, really close to the border between Hong Kong and China.
There's a place called Xinjiang.
I worked there.
And I spent probably two years working in Syngin and then I finished my work and then I came to Hong Kong.
I couldn't find my job so I started doing the internet radio host and that's how I started my career.
Okay, so on your show, I know you have had some well-known, at least American UFO investigators, and maybe even some Europeans, but have you had any of the Chinese UFO investigators as guests as well?
Well, quite a few of my guests are from Hong Kong people.
Well, not many of them are really UFO investigators, except Stan.
I mentioned before, Stan studied exopolitics, and he graduated from the Exopolitics Institute, so he knows quite a long story, but he basically is...
People who are really interested to study it, but not to share it.
So usually when I get some story, I meet him and I will call him and he will come to my show.
But he's from Hong Kong.
Not many people I have.
I don't remember I have any guests from China.
Okay, what about, are you familiar with James Chu who I met?
James Chu used to come up to my show, but I don't think...
James Chu is actually a thing for people, but he lives in Sanjay.
So I don't look at him as a Chinese people, but I look at him as Hong Kong.
A Hong Kong person.
Okay.
Well, at any rate, but he, you know, I did an interview with him while I was there, and that's on my website for people that are interested.
And he's talking about a case that happened a long time ago in China.
Are you familiar with the scientific, you know, the aliens that built the scientific research facility?
You mean that cases, yes.
I heard about it, but I don't really put a lot of time on studying it.
I see.
I got so many stacks of information that I have to share.
Some of the cases I heard from China is too, I think to me, is too fantastic, or something more like a fairy tale.
So I don't know.
Before I put a lot of effort to study it, I don't want to tell a story I'm not too sure that is true to my audience.
So that's why I put it aside, but I didn't really take a lot of studying here.
Okay.
Can you tell me any other UFO stories that you have come across in your research?
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of UFO sighting in Hong Kong.
Especially, even today, this morning before our conversation right now, there's a guy named Ken.
Yes, his name is Ken.
He just sent me a Facebook message.
This morning, around 9 o'clock, he saw a gray color.
Like a boomerang shape in Coast Wing Bay.
We know Coast Wing Bay is the downtown area of Hong Kong Island.
We saw that boomerang shape flying on the sky and then disappear between the crowd.
Really?
Very cool.
So there are so many incidents.
But up to now, Ms.
Ma's alien abduction case may be the most This is the significant story I have so far.
I saw a lot of cases in Hong Kong.
I have a couple living in some island area.
They both saw a seager shape in Wan Chai.
And one of the cases really cool is in North Point, also somewhere close to the downtown area, there is a building.
And the building on the top of the building has a really huge codec sign.
So we call that codec building.
Before the sign removed, after they sell the building, they removed the codec sign.
The codec sign was standing on the building for quite a few years.
Stan actually sit on the taxi and there was a traffic jam and Stan saw something.
Outside on the sky, like a cigar shape.
But then at that time, the bus just drive by and stop the wheel.
So after the bus drive, leave the wheel and unblocked his wheel, he saw that cigar shape just park right outside the Kodak building.
It was like 50 feet.
A huge big thing with silver color.
But that is only one thing.
But the second thing is, we got a story from Mufong, another guy who works inside the Kodak building.
He was holding some papers and doing the photocopy in front of the photocopy machine.
And the machine was parked right out next to the window.
He saw a big thing parked outside.
But both stories are all listed in blue form.
So you have to understand from two totally different people.
I know both of them right now.
From two different people, but they saw the same thing at the same time.
So this is not somebody just saw it and then tell the story.
But we have two people who can prove to each other.
Okay, very good.
Now, what about, have you ever tried to investigate, you know, or seen aliens in China or in Hong Kong, or have reported sightings of what are reported to be, you know, like aliens, maybe even looking humanoid, but being slightly different in some way?
Anything like that?
Yeah, I got a few stories.
After the book's released and more and more people give me a call or even send me email or Facebook messages, and quite a few of them are ladies.
One lady mentioned she's living on a house, like three floors.
Level of house.
And she saw right outside of the car park, she saw something parked on the car park.
It was like a dish shape.
And then she saw the shadow.
It's kind of shadow, you know, climb over the fence and looking at her.
And the shadow with the red, blinking red eyes.
Like she mentioned something like a dog, but it's not a dog because the shape is more like a round shape.
And she mentioned those beings trying to communicate with her.
I asked her, how does communication go?
She said something like a telepathic.
She got the information, she got some One of the ladies had this kind of story, but we didn't follow up because she was so scared.
But I asked her if there's nothing really affecting you in your social life or your works or your daily life, so maybe you shouldn't stick into it.
The reason I said that is because I'm afraid, I'm so worried We try to dig more deeper into the story, maybe like a hypnosis.
She may affect her life, her daily life, because they were so nervous at that time.
But after a few weeks, she said everything's fine and those tears are not showing up anymore, so we just stopped the investigation over there.
And then I remember one guy who walked on a Like a park, but next to the ocean area.
He walked on the park.
She remembered she hit something and then stopped him at night.
But he remembered he never hit anything, because that thing is a translucent, a trans-bearance.
You know, like, pretty much like the movie, you know, Predator, the movie, you know, that machine, that monster, he decided to do transparency.
So he may hit some button and then become only the shape.
He can see the shape.
He mentioned he can see the shape of a being.
He's not too tall, probably about four feet high.
But he saw the shape, but the shape moved away.
So, that is the story I have.
But the point is, not many people treat this as alien sighting.
It's because in the Hong Kong area, most of the people believe in ghosts.
And so, I'm doing this study this day, is the culture and the religion background can affect what the story is.
Because in most of the Hong Kong people, they think they see a human-shaped life being Maybe he will think this is ghost, not alien.
Because in Hong Kong, the folklore in Hong Kong, also the ghost story, usually it's a human shape, or human shape but with gold or white color, or even just a shadow, or even just a sclerag, that kind of story.
So people will directly put this into a ghost story instead of putting it into an alien context.
Very good point.
So that is a difficulty in Hong Kong.
But what about underground bases in China and also even in Hong Kong?
Have you noticed or heard any stories about that?
Yes.
My friend who also studies politics and living on a boat in the Abaddon area.
I don't know whether you've been there.
In the Aberdeen area, it's more like a Marine club or the boat yacht, the boat club.
So he was leaving on the boat.
And I remember when we get out on the boat and he told me story that my captain saw something just bung up from the sea.
So I talked to the captain and the captain said, no, no, no, I didn't see it.
I didn't see it.
But actually, we know the way he answered me, because I can see it from his eyes, he's really scared.
He doesn't like to tell the story to a foreigner, but he really quite might tell the story to the Hong Kong people, because most of the Hong Kong people will laugh at him and say he's crazy.
And then after some time, I talked to him again, and he mentioned outside of Lamar Island, which is quite a small island next to Hong Kong area, He saw some lights under the ground, under the sea, floating under the sea, but he doesn't know what that is.
And then my friend's kids, my friend's children, like the brother and sister, go fishing on the small boat in that close area.
And then I remember they tell the story is the sun facing on the sea, right, and see something, some light Really fast, you know, drive inside under the sea.
At the first time, he thought that is a reflection of something on the sky because there was night time.
But the daughter is looking up on the sky and didn't see anything fly over.
So actually it's a lighting, maybe a vehicle or maybe some kind of Some machine flying under the sea real quick.
But there's not a reflection from the sky.
It's the light itself from the sea, down in the sea.
And then I talked to some of the people in exo-politics, and we do some study, and we believe in Hong Kong, maybe, outside of Lamar Island, there may be an underground alien race.
Oh yeah?
So they can just fly over and then expand their seabed area into some space and then they can hide themselves inside.
And by the time when they leave, they can collapse this place and then become natural, become nothing, and then fly out.
I see.
So I cannot prove it, but I have quite a few stories.
And then during another show I did, I went to Lamar Island and then talked to the people.
You know, when you get to the islands, you can easily find out those are the people who do the fishing are the fishermen family.
So I tried to walk over and talk to them.
And one of the women...
Most of the people were laughing at me, of course.
Really?
Yeah, most of the people were laughing at me because the UFO is a fairy tale.
But one of the old ladies...
She said she saw an airplane.
That is how she described.
She saw an airplane fly up from the sea next to her boat and then go up to the sky and then disappear.
So you have to understand for those old ladies whatever machine flying on the sky is an airplane.
So the way she explained to me is an airplane fly up from the sea.
Definitely, we know that's impossible.
But whatever she can understand is an airplane fly up from the sea and go to the sky and disappear.
That is the story she told me, and that was happening probably six years ago.
Okay.
So I think that maybe my friend from exo-politics, he was right.
Maybe there are alien faces outside of Lamar Island.
Okay, is there, you know, a lot of military from China in Hong Kong who may come, like, you know, if you have a base, then they maybe want to come out of the base to have a nice time in Hong Kong, right, at night or something?
So, what do you think?
You mean the avian?
Yeah, well, no, I mean the humans that work in an underground base, if there's any humans working in an underground base...
I'm not too sure whether there's human working in the underground base.
But, you know, now Hong Kong returned to China, and a few miles next to my house is the military base in Hong Kong, which is a Chinese soldier living in there.
They have a strict rule, they cannot just go out to the camp, like holiday or something.
Go back to China.
They couldn't just walk on the street and do the shopping.
They cannot do that.
So I doubt even if they really work together with aliens in the underground base, I don't think I don't think they can just walk around and do some shopping like the Area 51 area.
Have you traveled to Australia?
Do you know about Pine Gap in Australia?
Have you gone to any of these other places around the world?
Well, I went to Upland, but it's only for business places, so I only stayed there for 24 hours and then fly back.
I've never been in Australia.
Well, I heard a lot of story about Pine Gap.
I believe your audience also know about the story of Pine Gap.
But the funny thing is, the first time I do the investigation outside of Hong Kong is the States, and also in Japan.
I should have sent you a picture.
I see that I can have it here.
I don't know whether you can see it.
This is postcard.
I went to travel with my wife and then my wife just hold a camera and then she filmed.
Can you see?
She filmed something flying in the sky.
We never know that until we upload the photos into the computer and she filmed these things.
And I asked her Why do you suddenly pull the camera and film the sky?
She said, no, but I don't know, but I just suddenly feel that the view is beautiful.
So she just used the camera and film it.
Well, why am I driving?
And you can see it's winter and it's snowing somewhere next to the Mount Fuji.
And then in the middle of the photo, we got something like this.
I sent this to some of my friends and Some of the investigators, some of them say maybe a bird, but if you look clearly, you can see this shape has a light in the middle of these objects.
I don't think a bird will...
Now, are you able to scan that photo and send it to me?
You mean right away?
Well, yeah, like tonight, before, after the show or something.
Yeah, I have some pictures, which is enlarged if...
It's pretty good quality, so I can send it to you tonight or after the show.
That would be great.
Yeah, that is some of the investigation I have.
And I remember, there was not only UFO crisis in Hong Kong, but also, you know, people saw the monster in Hong Kong.
You're not going to believe that.
And those stories are way too crazy, because this guy is sleeping in the middle of night, next to the window.
He hear some scratching sound.
He opened up the window.
He saw a being like, how can I explain, like three feet high, probably like an oak, but with wings.
And this being opened the mouth and tried to pop to him.
And then turn and then fly away.
This guy sent me a lot of emails about this story and he's trying so hard to tell me that it's true.
He's not dreaming and he's not crazy and he's not making things up.
So what do you mean it looks like?
Do you mean like it looks like a bird of some kind?
It does not look like a bird because it's got long legs.
Okay.
But no hand, no arm, but wings.
Wings.
Wings.
And then the legs can scratch on the window, and then the face is like, how can I explain?
It's like a human face with eyes, with nose, with mouth, but the eyes are kind of weird, and large eyes.
And at the same time, he kind of confused and got some information, got some image like an owl.
Some image like a what?
Like an oak.
I don't know what you mean.
You know, for some people who saw grace, grace is actually...
You remember the story of Camuni and Whitney Stieber?
Yeah.
Do you remember he saw an oak, right?
That kind of bird?
Like night oak?
Oh, night.
I think you mean owl.
Owl, yes.
Owl, night owl.
So it's a little bit like an owl.
He got some image like an owl.
I see, I see.
But not exactly like an owl.
But if it has legs, it has human legs?
Long legs, not human legs.
Not the legs, not the bird legs.
You know, the bird with long legs is usually really thin with the paw at the end.
A lot of that kind of legs.
The leg is more like a thick, or maybe...
Maybe thinner than human legs, but it's not like a bird.
Okay.
So have there been other sightings like that, you know, of monsters or whatever you want to say?
Yes.
Yes.
After I report this story in my program, M13, At the same day, the other couples sent me emails saying they saw pretty much the same thing flying in the sky and then after some time it disappeared and they drove Chasing this thing.
They want to make sure they didn't see anything wrong.
They chase this thing, but the problem is they're pushing a baby car so they cannot run too fast.
And then the husband runs real fast time to see where that thing flies to, but then disappears.
So this is not only one sighting, but maybe two or three.
We have this kind of story in Hong Kong, but the problem again, in Hong Kong, most people are really worried about commercial and the politics.
And they don't really put too much attention into the UFO cases, or even, we call it weird cases, they don't really put attention to it.
So, not many people put it seriously, and that is the difficulty for me to do the study.
But you know, when I spoke in China, in Hong Kong, we had a very big audience, you know, almost like a thousand people came in Hong Kong.
So there was enough people that were very interested, I think, right?
Yes.
When I was there.
Now, I also have heard that in China they have a lot of stories and sightings and things, but are you not in touch with any researchers who live and work in Shanghai or other big cities or anywhere else in China?
Well, I heard about those stories and then mainly there are three very famous attention stories, but because a lot of people do a lot of studying into it and then In Hong Kong, you know, now after my show and then more and more people will host up their internet radio show and talk about UFO cases and UFO stories.
And they're all picking up this kind of story and report it.
So I'm thinking if someone already reported, it's better not for me to repeat and report it again.
And also I didn't really get in touch with those So that's why I don't want to just report a story, because when I report a story, I also want to do some study myself and do some more research on myself.
And since, because the Chinese language is kind of different to Hong Kong, because Chinese people, they're using simplified words.
In Hong Kong, we're using traditional Chinese words.
So, this is some difficulty for me to read the simplified word.
Besides, don't forget I have dyslexia in Chinese.
So, all those reports are stacks of Chinese wording.
When I open a few pages, I may feel faint.
I feel a headache.
Probably that is one of the reasons I didn't put much time to study the China style, the UFO cases.
I more put on focus on the United States or the English information.
That's the reason.
I see.
Can you say, if you have other people that are also investigating this with you, Have any of you experienced any kind of threats or anything of this nature for the kind of investigation that you're doing?
I didn't ask the others, but myself, I remember I received not really an email, but a message probably two years ago.
In the email, inside the message, he mentioned, maybe I shouldn't have too much.
That is one case, but really simple wording, that's all.
And I didn't really pay attention to it.
I think somebody maybe, maybe, I don't know, maybe some people crazy or maybe some people doesn't want to hear too many of UFO cases.
They want to hear more ghost stories.
Because at those days, I was still talking ghost stories.
But now I don't talk ghost stories anymore.
And then I remember, and not really a long time ago, I have got some guests and come up and talk About the secret society.
And then the story behind.
As I know the other channel, the other program, or the other internet radio program, he also invites someone.
He actually tells the audience that he is from the Free Maiden.
And he talks about the story and how they join the group and how they join the society.
That kind of thing.
But, and then I got information from my side that this guy is being tracked and they're not supposed to tell the truth or tell their identity to the public.
So that is the, maybe that is some kind of threat in the internet regularly in Hong Kong we face.
But usually when we face threat, when we face warning, it's basically because of the politics side.
Not about the secret society, not about the UFO information.
That is what I understand in Hong Kong the situation.
I see.
Well, in terms of what you call the Umbrella Revolution and what's been going on there, do you want to talk a little bit about that and what is the status?
Yeah, that is funny because during the revolution, during the protests, do you remember the BBC, they filmed something flying in the sky like the UFO cases?
And then when I picked up the Coast to Coast the other day, it seems like George Nip, he doesn't really know what's going on in Hong Kong about the protests.
So I want to tell, okay, because Supposedly, in 2017, we should have selected another new governor of Hong Kong.
But I think the China side tried to limit the people you can choose.
But in Hong Kong, people think that is for real freedom.
We shouldn't limit the background of the governor.
So something about this, and then also the China government put in some kind of laws in Hong Kong, which is to stop probably the freedom, especially they have a 23rd law about the Internet freedom.
If they really establish this law, then we are having trouble, or we may have trouble to Talk whatever we want to talk in the internet radio station.
So people are asking for more freedom.
So they actually go up to the street to do the same thing like occupy Wall Street, whatever happened in the room.
Also, we occupy Central.
The people go up to the Central and occupy the area.
And then more people think maybe that is too It's not work, so they occupy Mong Kok and then occupy some other area in Crossway Bay.
So they actually set up the tanks and then sleep on the street and then they have a talk show every night, especially in the central area.
The central area, they have a talk show right outside the government building and also next to the military building.
People really asking for the freedom.
That is the way.
But also, you know, at the same time, also some people will say these people, these kind of people who went, went out to the street and blocked the road and it's illegal.
So, and those two months is really hard for the Hong Kong people because basically it's split into two Some people support the government and some people support the freedom or want more freedom.
Especially young people, especially people who mostly get information from the internet.
They stick to it.
And most of the audience in Hong Kong or my program, because they are open-minded, they can absorb They can accept even UFOs, they can accept some really even more crazy stories they can believe in.
So they can accept a new Technology like internet and get information from internet.
And they all understand whatever you can read from the news may not be right.
On TV may not be correct.
Because the media may change something and put some more information or maybe even misinformation.
So they listen to internet radio and they stand for their rights and they want the freedom.
So most of the people who ran out to the street and occupied Central are internet audiences.
Oh, really?
Yes.
That's interesting.
Okay, well, I'm going to put some pictures.
I took some pictures while I was there of Occupy, so I want to put them on the screen right now for people to see, because they might find this very interesting, and then I'll try to put some of this section into the video here that we're doing.
And it's just very short because I didn't get to have a lot of time to do too much investigation here, but just one second.
Because this is occupied for the people listening.
And these are the photos I took of all the signs that they have.
And they have some amazing signs with poems and beautiful pictures of people and all kinds of stuff.
It was really kind of amazing.
There's John Lennon.
You know, so this is what people can see.
But go ahead and tell us more about the Occupy.
Yeah, people really ask for the freedom.
I think the basic idea is from Occupy Wall Street.
The fight for the justice and for the democracy and that's what the people really asking for.
So they put a lot of pictures like John Lennon and they put the ideas you have to dare to imagine and then to believe that will actually happen.
And then they have a lot of, probably they have pictures of How can I explain?
I remember I saw pictures of Martin Luther King.
Yes.
They also had pictures of...
I'm trying to find it actually here.
They have some pictures of people that were...
I wish I could find them.
I don't see them here.
But there are pictures of people that just showed their eyes and their...
Do you remember those ones?
Of the people?
I guess they were arrested.
Is that the ones that were arrested to have their photographs?
Which one are you talking about?
I guess I just have to try to find it.
Anyway, if I find it, I'll put it on this video because it's quite interesting.
The way they did it, I thought was quite fascinating.
Well, why did this call a burial revolution is because on the first few days, one of the people who did the protests and then they sent out the policemen and tried to Oh, yes.
And I think they break the record for the last 10 years of using tear gas.
I think 78 users. - Incredible.
- They shoot 78 users and she tried to take over the places they occupied.
And most of the people using the Umberra to protect themselves.
They open up the Umberra to stop the teachers.
The umbrella, yes.
So that is how they start using the name of Umberra and then after two weeks and after two weeks and then everything becomes Umberra evolution is because they fight for freedom.
Right.
I don't know whether you spend a lot of time walking there, but if you spend some time walking on the area, you may see a lot of art, a lot of creation.
You cannot believe it because I think Hong Kong in the world is showing the world that Hong Kong people really use the beams to fight for what they want.
But of course, in some other areas, some people are quite I think most of them are students.
And because they're a student, they obey the law.
I don't know whether you read on the paper or Times, you see one guy holding an umbrella standing right inside all these books and details.
I think that is one of the really significant pictures we have from Times magazines.
I see.
Well, is it still going on right now?
No, it's finished about two months ago, I guess.
Because I think the students, they think maybe it's about time to stop.
Because if they don't stop it, I think both sides, even the government, think the same way.
If they don't stop it, then they actually affect a lot of Hong Kong citizens.
But I'm pretty sure it will happen again.
Maybe on the other way or in the other format, but I'm sure this will go on.
So I think people who ask for freedom will never stop.
Yes, I think there was a very strong feeling of You know, concern and solidarity and people wanting to take part.
And I think that they won't stop myself as well.
Yeah, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I think it's going to be a long process to get the democracy, even like the other Western countries.
But I don't think it's...
I don't think a government can stop totally all the freedom and all the democracy.
Because the more young people, the more younger people they raise up, they're more asking for it.
Because a lot of young people, they're really quite attached to the Western culture.
Instead of the old person, they're quite attached to the China culture.
I think that is the generation gap to three.
There you go.
People who are younger than me, you see the students that are younger than me, they are really asking for it.
They are really happy to be part of this protest.
But the people who are older than me, they kind of really hate it.
They watch TV and then they say, oh, they caused a lot of trouble.
They caused chaos in Hong Kong and it's illegal.
We should not let that happen again.
But the people who are more younger, Because when they're younger, when they grow up, they will be the next group to operate Hong Kong.
So, you know, they're asking for freedom.
Maybe the freedom will come again.
Maybe this kind of evolution will come again in the next few, probably six months, maybe one year, I don't know.
But I think it will definitely happen again.
Okay, very good.
Now, do you think, let's see, Do you think that there is freedom of speech in Hong Kong right now?
On the internet radio, yes.
But I can say yes or no.
Because I saw one of the guys the other day, my old friend who was also in another internet radio program.
And he was so involved in the umbrella evolution.
And then he received a message from nobody He doesn't know the name, but he received a message attached with his mom's address and told him to shut up.
He was an artist manager and he owned two singers.
And one of the singers actually received a mail, not an email, an actual mail made to her home And tell her to say, ask your manager to shut up.
And that happens and I believe him and because he's quite famous in Hong Kong and I know him quite well and he told me all the stories.
He wouldn't be, he's not making the things up.
And then after that he had to shut up because he had no way, he don't know what he can do.
And then he's walking on the street and two big guys coming over and beating him up.
He threw him to shut up.
And then his artist used a camera to film the whole thing, the whole process being beat on the street.
But the thing is, the policeman coming over and charged him fighting on the street.
And then he showed the policeman, look at the video.
See, I didn't even move my head.
You know, in Hong Kong, it was like this.
In Hong Kong, even if you just do a gesture like this, You're already in Wuhan to a fighting crime.
So that is what the case is.
So he mainly just protected his head, and everything was filmed in the video and showed to the police, and the police just dropped off the charge next day.
But it happens in Hong Kong a lot.
I think the freedom of speech is still okay these days, but I'm not too sure in the later time, probably in six months maybe we cannot talk anything we want.
Oh, God.
Okay, well, I hope that doesn't happen.
Yeah.
So is there anything else?
You know, we've been talking for a while, and I don't want to keep you for too long, but I was wondering if there are anything else that you want to tell us about, anything about your show or your investigations that would be of interest, you know, even in the metaphysical realm, whatever. you know, even in the metaphysical realm, whatever.
Yeah, a lot of Hong Kong people, they always say, why you can see UFOs?
Why you all can see UFOs?
And they don't understand.
I experienced a sighting just two days ago.
And in the midnight, I was talking to my friend on his phone.
And we were expecting, for some reason, we were expecting something to happen.
But it never really happened.
And then we have a long talk.
And after this talk, when I packed up everything and about to leave, and he pointed up to the sky, he said, Chafe, look.
And then when I looked up the sky, it was starry night, really clear night, a lot of stars.
But I saw a bright white light object flying from stars, between stars.
In not only a straight line, but in a little like a wig shape.
And almost 30 seconds and then disappear.
So I want to tell most of the Hong Kong people, if they watch this program, or maybe they'll watch it later on YouTube, that if you want to see something, you have to spend enough time to look at the sky instead of looking at your phone.
When you come to Hong Kong, I believe you realize both of the Hong Kong people are holding their phone.
Even on the dining table, on the train, on the bus, on the subway, they're all watching phone.
Yes, they have to spend time to look at the sky and then they will see something.
And there's a lot of sighting in Hong Kong, actually.
If they put enough time to watch it, they should be able to see something.
And a lot of interesting experience, even in the States.
We saw 57 fast walkers running on the sky on the first night.
And the second night we saw 19.
And then the second time we went, we saw 20.
So it is everywhere.
They are all everywhere.
So I definitely believe in UFOs especially.
But for most a lot of people, they still treat this as a fairy tale or like a ghost story.
Interesting.
Interesting, but I think that disclosure, I think, I can see the disclosure is going on.
Whatever is hiding is being revealed from page to page and more people will know the truth.
Okay.
So people can, from America and all over the world, they can watch your show, can't they?
Online?
Yes.
Yes, by my show, I put it on the internet, and people can watch it.
In my program, I gave you the link, it's mj13show.com, so people can watch it.
I have some 80 episodes, which is free, Starting from 18 up to 124 now, we pay for the archive.
Okay.
Excellent.
And now, in your show, you're speaking, are you speaking Cantonese?
What are you speaking?
Oh, sometimes I speak in English, for example, that program with you.
Yes.
We speak English, but Hong Kong people, some of them may understand English, some of them, most of them would rather listen to Cantonese.
So we have very few translators who do the translation and get all the information and the meanings right.
I remember I interviewed another guy named Andrew French, and he's an English people who works in Xinjiang, and he also has a lot of sightings.
And we went to the States to get up.
And by the time we finished to visit the Bresol Ranch, and by the time we get back to the hotel, he saw a grave in his room.
It's like a translucent, and then translucent, something like a transparent, but it's not completely, and standing right in front of him.
He pictured it.
And when we, in the States, in Arizona, we do the CE5, The close encounter of the pipeline, where Stephen Galear went away.
We tried that one and then they saw a UFO land right in front of them and then they had feelings run out.
But that was too cold.
I was just sleeping in the car and I missed everything.
And by the time they come back to the car and they say, why are you sleeping in the car?
I say, it was too cold and I was too tired of the jack leg and everything.
So I sleep in the car because I saw 57 fast walkers last night.
So tonight I think maybe just to start walking, the fast walker, I start thinking to see.
So I sleep in the car.
By the time they come to the car and say, we saw something laying right in front of us.
And I think more than five people saw the same thing.
Oh, interesting.
Okay, and was that in Sedona?
Yeah, it was Sedona, Arizona, and we met Travis Walton in Snowflake, and he showed us where the attraction incident happened.
We went to Area 51, we went outside of Oh, you mean Robert...
I know who you mean, but yeah, okay, Robert starts with an L. Anyway...
We know who we're talking about.
Yeah.
Oh, Bob Lazar.
Lazar.
No, no, no.
Not Bob Lazar?
No, the billionaire who owned...
Oh, you mean Robert?
Oh, God.
Yeah, okay.
I know that person.
Bigelow?
Bigelow, yes.
We went to the Bigelow Aerospace Company outside.
It's on the sign of the UFO alien as the logo.
I see.
People who saw it on TV in Hong Kong or saw it on the internet in Hong Kong, but when they actually get to the area, And when they actually get to the sky wash, they saw the fast walker.
They were stunned.
And the first time they saw things like this.
And then a few ladies who fly back to Hong Kong earlier than me, they saw this shape outside of the plane.
They saw that together.
And by the time we drive from Nevada back to Sedona, Stan actually filmed a few pictures of a silver mackerel ball hanging in the sky and following the bus for the whole eight hours trip.
You're kidding.
No, I got pictures.
I got elephants.
I just sent him...
Stupid.
Okay.
I just sent him a message, a WhatsApp message, and I asked him whether I can use the pictures.
As soon as I got his permission, and I will send it to you right away.
But that is amazing.
It was an amazing experience in the States.
Very interesting.
All right.
So, well, thank you very much, Chuck Faye.
Would you like me to call you that?
Chuck Faye?
Yeah, you can call me Chuck Faye and most of the people call me Philip.
Some of the people from the other countries will call me Philip.
It's more easier for them to remember.
I see.
Well, I can remember either one.
It's lovely to have you on the show.
It'd be great to have you back in the future.
Just let me know if you have some stories to tell in the future and you want to come on the show.
We'd be happy to have you.
Thank you so much for spending some time with us.
Thank you for having me on your show.
I have to apologize to the audience because my English is so bad.
No, you're really good.
No, you're really good.
Your English is very good and you're very easy to understand.
I think people will very much enjoy this and we'll put it on YouTube.
Probably be up there tomorrow sometime.
And I don't think I ever got a copy of my appearance on your show.
You don't?
No, I don't think so.
Okay.
Anyway, I send you the links again.
It's all uploaded, the server, and I didn't take that down.
So I will send you the links again today, right after the show, and then you can download your program, and then you can put it up to yours.
Okay, great.
Okay, thank you.
So take care of yourself, and say hi to everybody for me in Hong Kong.
Sure.
And we'll have you back, okay?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, good night and good morning to you in Hong Kong, right?
Okay, good night everybody.
Okay, bye-bye.
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