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Dec. 12, 2014 - Project Camelot
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PROJECT CAMELOT : JAMES CHU - ALIEN SCIENTIFIC PARK
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Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy with Camelot, and we are here about to start in about an hour, I think, the Hong Kong UFO Congress, as they're calling it.
And it is a big event, and we've just shown you the main room, and now we're going to have a short interview here with James Chu.
And James is assigned to help us out today during the conference, but...
but he is also, as it happens, a UFO researcher, and he's also head of the UFOCon.
No, I'm one of the director of the UFO Club in Ocon.
I see.
Okay, and you said you're also a supporter of MTKesh?
Yes.
I actually talked about him three years ago in China.
That's how he gained a lot of people's attention in China.
And a group of followers now in China is following his technology.
Oh, okay.
Doing research in the direction that he wanted and conducting weekly courses through the internet.
Oh, very good.
So, did you want to say more about Keshe before we get on to your UFOs?
Let's focus on the UFO thing.
Alright, that's fine.
So, let me just say that we are in the dressing room and people are setting up for the conference, so they're going to be coming in and out in the background, but this is the situation we are in, so please indulge us here and...
This is information that's interesting to the rest of the world because not that often do we get stories about UFO sightings in China.
So go right ahead.
Well, there is actually a contactee case in China that started in the early 50s, a long time ago.
And this particular group has a very interesting history because it They were somehow linked to the United States also.
Allegedly, according to their story, as told by them, when they first came to Earth in the 1800s, they actually decided to stay in California, near Los Angeles.
At that time, until they, and then by the early 50s, they decided to leave the United States and relocate themselves in China, in Hunan Province in China.
And shortly after they arrived in China, they established contact with the contactee, Mr.
Sun, who was just a farmer.
A retired military personnel, a low-ranking personnel in the People's Liberation Army, and then he became a farmer in Hunan Province.
And they approached him, of course, surprised the heck out of him.
And he didn't believe that they were aliens initially, and thought that they were just some hoodlum trying to take advantage of him.
So, you know, he kept turning them away and turning them away, and they keep coming back and keep explaining to him that, no, we are not bad people.
We just want to establish contact with you and tell you something, you know.
And eventually, they kind of convinced him that they had no bad intent for him.
They are not taking advantage of him and all that.
And also, I think, if I remember correctly, they start showing him some of, you know, like the crafts flying in the air and all that.
So he began to believe them.
And they established a friendship.
And they stayed with him for many years, in fact, including three of the years that they actually lived with him.
Now you have to understand, Mr.
Shang lives in a very small house with only three rooms.
And practically no furniture.
I mean, he was very poor.
And according to him, they stayed at the top of his closet.
He had a closet to put his clothing in.
And according to him, they slept on top of the closet.
Now how they did it, I have no idea.
Okay, but can you describe them?
They look just like Chinese.
In fact, if they stand next to me, because I'm a Chinese, you won't be able to tell the difference, except with only one characteristic, and that is they are a little bit taller than local Chinese people.
Ah, really?
And that's it.
And they look exactly like us, and they dress like us, like Chinese people at that time, in the 50s, early 50s.
And they speak like Chinese.
So, you know, I mean, they were literally indistinguishable from the local people.
But how would they sleep on top of his closet?
I have no idea.
If they're very tall, then there's three of them.
Is that right?
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Hold on.
Okay.
And so they're tall.
Taller.
Taller.
But are they skinny?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he says they stayed at the top of his closet at night.
Yeah, for about three years.
And why did they come here?
What were they doing?
Well, apparently, according to their information, they have been on Earth for many thousands of years.
And they actually, they were related in many, many ways to the ancient Chinese history.
The whole story is quite fascinating, of course.
A lot of people, including a lot of Chinese, Don't believe them.
Don't believe the story because it's too far-fetched.
Okay?
I'll go into it a little bit more and then you'll know how far-fetched it can be.
Alright.
So, I mean, all I can say is an alleged story.
But it is a story told by them.
Now, the contactee, because they were mostly uneducated.
I mean, they have elementary school education.
And so...
A lot of the material logically could not have been invented or created by them.
What do you call the contact team, meaning this farmer?
Yeah, the farmer and actually later on his two sons.
Initially it was the farmer, Mr.
Shang.
Anyway, so the two aliens stayed with him for, if I remember correctly, up to three years.
However, they would not eat his food.
They have their own food.
And when he asked them why, because...
They said, because your food is contaminated, we don't want to eat it.
So, anyway, so they stayed with him for three years, and they established a very strong friendship.
And then they requested him to start to build a park for them.
They called it the Alien Scientific Park.
Okay?
And which, initially, he declined because, you know, number one, he's poor.
And number two, he doesn't have the ability.
He doesn't know how to do it.
And they said, well, don't worry about it.
We'll teach you.
And he said, no, no, no.
You go and talk to the officials.
You know, they have money and they can help you and do all this stuff, but I cannot.
I'm a farmer.
I'm poor.
I need to work in the field, so I cannot do it for you.
Anyway, but they insisted.
And later on he was again convinced and he decided to do it.
And initially he started doing it by himself because he was young.
And he started building it and then years later he recruited the help of his two sons to help him along.
And again, initially his two sons were very skeptical and said, you must be crazy because there's no such thing.
Until the aliens showed up in front of the sun and showed them the craft.
So they believed also, and they started helping out.
I believe that was about seven years ago.
So it was very recent.
The sun's involvement was very recent.
But what kind of craft did they have?
Round craft.
Round craft.
But how big?
Oh, I don't know.
They didn't really...
Describe that.
So I don't know how big.
I would imagine regular normal size.
So there's only three of them.
Were there other ones coming to visit the world, our world, or only those three?
Oh, no, no, no.
There were...
I'm trying to remember now.
Again, I don't have my numbers in front of me.
I believe there is about 4,000 of them in China.
You're kidding.
Yeah, no, no kidding.
There are 4,000 of them.
In fact, some of them actually lived among the Chinese people locally.
But of course, you know, in Condito.
I mean, they won't reveal themselves, who they are.
But there were four...
I forgot, 3,800 something.
They have a very exact figure.
I don't have that figure in front of me.
So they actually stayed, a large contingency of them were staying there for years and years and assisting the farmer to build this scientific park.
So he spent years and all his savings and struggled along by himself.
First of all, He exchanged part of his land for this particular area that the alien designated that said, we want the park to be built here.
It's actually a small ravine with a small brook flowing through it, and they built the whole thing on top of the brook.
So it's quite fascinating.
Yes.
But did they have the other...
Aliens, the other parts, you say there's 3,800.
Did some of those individuals come and help build?
Yes, and taught him how to do it also.
Okay.
And also protected him.
Okay.
Because after he started working on it, aroused the attention of the villagers, the rest of the people in the village and the officials in the village.
So they start, you know, inquiring him and talking to him and finding out what's going on and start doubting his story because none of these other people saw the aliens.
Only he can see the aliens.
Oh, you're kidding.
Yeah.
So when you say they were living among the people, though, and they looked just like humans.
Oh, I think, now this is my speculation only, I think some of them, a small number of them, they do live in the city next to this village, fairly close to the village.
Among the people, local people.
I think a few of them did that.
So then they were seen as...
Oh yeah, but you don't know that they were aliens.
Local people don't know they were aliens.
Officially, they would not reveal themselves officially to any other people except to this family.
Okay, and this family though could see them like I'm seeing you at this moment, yes?
Yes, yes.
Most of the time, if they choose to.
Oh, so they can go invisible.
Yeah, they can go invisible.
In fact, that's the experience I told you earlier, that I think they were there invisible.
Well, the first time I think they were, and the second time they were there, because Mr.
Shang, the father, actually greeted him.
And invited him to sit down, next to him, while we were having a small meeting, talk.
Uh-huh, and did that make you, were you dizzy in their presence?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, when I, well, that's how the story went.
It was last year, end of September, I was there.
Remember I told you they built an alien scientific park.
In there, there was a big building.
Single stories.
Well, except there's a basement underneath.
It's kind of like a big hall.
And in that hall, the hall was locked up for years and years because they store some classified material inside.
And then...
Okay, meaning classified to this group of aliens.
No.
Dictated by this group of aliens and not to be revealed until a later date.
Okay, have they ever given their permission?
No.
No, because last year, around the end of September, beginning of October, the alien realized that somebody was going to break into that place and steal those materials.
So they instructed, they took away part of the material and they instructed the family to destroy the rest.
Okay, but this scientific park that they created, did the government try to interfere or anything like that?
Oh yes, the local government did, not the central government in China.
No?
Yeah, I don't think they knew about it, the central government.
But the local government, they knew about it.
And they didn't like it.
And they tried to interfere, they tried to stop him, they tried to, including stealing the material.
Well, I don't know whether it was the government trying to steal the material, but somebody was trying to steal the material.
Which they did.
In fact, again, my days are a little bit mixed up.
I'm trying to remember.
I think I was there October 18th of last year, shortly before I arrived.
Somebody did break into it.
They saw the, you know, it was just locked up with a saw, and they cut the saw.
They cut the lock.
And they went in, but by that time, all the materials were gone.
They were removed by the aliens, partially, and also the rest were instructed by the aliens to be destroyed, and they did.
They destroyed, they burned all the material.
Before the people came to break.
Before the people broke in.
That's correct.
Okay, did they recruit scientists to work in this alien scientific park?
Well, they tried to get people's attention, but nobody paid any attention to them.
But is the building still there?
Oh yeah, the building's still there.
Is it a big building?
Yeah, it's a, well, let's say, about a little bit, well...
No, this is irregular.
The building was rectangular.
It was pretty big.
Maybe about twice this area.
I see.
Okay, and did they have some of their own people work there?
During when?
When the building was...
Was constructed?
Yeah.
So, I mean, working on scientific projects?
No, building the place up.
Just building it, but then did anybody work in it to make a scientific project?
No.
Never?
No.
They actually did have a model made from concrete of a flying saucer at the bottom of the building, at the basement area.
They erected a model, but it's just concrete, just a flat slab of concrete.
It looks like a flying saucer.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, very good.
Well, maybe we'll do that.
So, what happened?
Is this the group of aliens that you say decided to leave the planet?
Yes.
This is the group?
This is the group, yes.
And they made the announcement last month, end of last month.
Saying that they didn't like the reception that they received.
Well, you know, they were interacting with, besides the contactee, there was a UFO investigator, Zhang Jingping, out of Beijing, who was very famous in China.
And he was involved about two, three years ago.
I'm trying to remember now.
Yeah, about three years ago.
And two years ago, he also went there and visited him, visited the contactee.
And I know Zhang Jinping.
In fact, I got the information initially from him.
But I went there ahead of him.
And he didn't have the time, so he went there after I did and talked to the family and established relationships and did a lot of work.
However, Zhang Jinping is also involved in a lot of other contactee material and a lot of channeling material.
I see.
Well, to get back to these particular aliens, do they have a name for their race?
Yes.
Well, it's in Chinese, Dongxingqiu.
The literal translation is the star from the east planet.
Did they describe where they are?
No.
Well, they did give some information, but the unit of measurement is different from ours, so we don't know what that means.
I mean, they did not describe it in terms of light years.
They talk about a universal mileage.
Yeah, I mean, that's how we translate.
It's a universe mile.
Now, what is a universe mile?
We have no idea.
Okay.
Alright, so they decided they wanted to leave, but why did they want to leave?
To be honest, I mean, I don't know either.
It's kind of very confusing.
Well, first of all, they were aware that local officials did not welcome them and questioned the contactee and gave the contactee a lot of problems, difficulties, trying to interfere with the construction of the park.
They didn't like that.
They tried to protect the contactee.
And also, after Zhang Jinping was involved, he became their official spokesman on the web because he knows how to operate the web.
He has his own blog.
So he published a lot of the material.
But at the same time, initially it was okay.
And then at the end, Zhang Jinping started kind of like mixing their material with other people's material.
Which kind of angered them for some reason.
They thought that your material is not accurate and you're distorting our message.
So it seems like that is also part of the reason why they want to leave.
They wanted to get the attention of the Chinese government.
In fact, in one of the messages, the person, I forgot who, was talking to the contactee.
By the way, there are a lot of There were a lot of them that periodically would come to the talk with Mr.
Shang, the contactee, on different things, on different issues.
And I remember the message was that one time they were talking with Mr.
Shang and they said that, well, we're going to visit your president, Mr.
Hu Jintao Wu.
He retired already and now is President Xi Jinping.
But before, Xi Jinping was Hu Jintao.
And they told the contactee saying, well, we want to visit him on this particular day, on this particular time.
And if he welcomed us, we will reveal ourselves to him.
But if he doesn't make any indication, then we will remain invisible to him, but we will visit him.
But of course, you know, they never received any reply from the central government, so maybe they visited him invisibly.
Okay, now, when you say that they would reveal themselves to him, even though they look Chinese, do you think it's possible that they didn't really look like that?
Well, that I don't know.
I cannot tell you.
But I do think they, actually they do look like Chinese.
The reason is because not just one of them, there were many, many of them.
And remember I said earlier, they were actually really involved with Chinese culture to a very large extent, including the possibility they were Somehow related to our language.
So there was a long history of influence.
Now, okay, I'll tell you some of the stuff that even local Chinese people find hard to accept.
Their queen, by the way, they have king and queen.
The king, the name is Yu Huang Da Di.
Now in Chinese folklore, we have a mythological figure called Yu Huang Da Di.
Now you can tell from my accent, it's very similar.
And according to them, our mythological figure, Yu Huang Da Di, is their king, Yu Huang Da Di.
And also the queen, It's Guan Yin.
Guan Yin is a goddess in Chinese mythology.
Okay?
So, what they're saying is, our Chinese mythology of the Yu Huang Da Di, the god, and the goddess Guan Yin are both the king and the queen.
Now, but this mythology started thousands of years ago in China.
Well, according to them, their lifespan is tens of thousands of years.
So it's the same person That work that came down to earth, did something for the people, and people remembered them and created a mythology around them, and they returned.
You know, it was the same person.
It is still the same person.
In fact, last month, real hot off the press here, The husband, Yu Huang Daddy, came down.
The wife, Guan Yin, also was here.
And also, according to the material, again, okay?
That's why I said sometimes it's difficult for most people to accept.
Buddha was with them.
Oh, yes?
Yeah.
The three of them came to visit the building, the park, scientific park, because they had to repair work done to the building.
It was leaking.
So they repaired it.
And the three of them came down from their planet and inspected the place and were pleased with the work.
And then at the same time, they announced that they were leaving.
Okay, but so they built this scientific laboratory of a kind?
Well, it's a building.
It's a park.
It's not even really a laboratory.
It's just a park.
Does it have exhibits or anything?
Well, they had some material.
Well, first of all, they had a lot of contact notes written on the walls in Chinese.
In the walls of the building.
Yeah, all over the past.
Information?
Yeah, information.
Did you read it?
Oh, yeah.
And is it interesting scientific information?
No.
No?
No.
Well, just world political situation, the situation in China, and about them, a lot of information about them, where they came from, how many people populated their planet, what was their race like, what was their society like, And this is all on the walls?
All on the walls.
And this is also available somewhere?
Oh yeah.
Is it translated into English?
No, it's all in Chinese.
All in Chinese?
All in Chinese.
Would you be able to translate it for us?
Well, it's a lot of work.
It's a lot of work.
Maybe we can find a volunteer who might like to do this.
If it's good information, is it good information?
Well, it's interesting information, I would say.
A lot has to do with China.
It really doesn't have a lot to do with foreign countries.
Politically in China, were they favorable towards the Communist regime?
Very favorable.
In fact, allegedly, according to their story, when Mao Zedong was fighting with the Kuomintang, the KMT, Well, I mean, it's a well-known historical fact.
Guomintang was supported by the United States government and had all the money and the weapons and supplies and all that, while Mao Zedong was on his own with no support from anyone, and poor, no ammunition, except some few guns and all that, no artillery stuff.
So, you know, Mao Zedong started the guerrilla warfare because he cannot fight the KMT directly.
But the KMT was very powerful at that time and wanted to wipe out the communists, you know, completely destroy them.
Well, isn't this run by Chiang Kai-shek?
Yeah, KMT was run by Chiang Kai-shek, yes.
The communists were run by Mao Zedong.
Well, at this time, sorry to make a detour here, but isn't it true that there still are these two factions in China?
Oh yeah, well, the KMT is now in Taiwan.
China is run by the communists.
Right.
But even perhaps hidden among the communists, maybe some sympathizers with them.
Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Because, you know, I mean, at that time when the Kuomintang retreated to Taiwan, they left behind a lot of people who were not in...
In the same wavelength as the communists, thinking-wise.
But you're saying this visiting alien race was sympathizing with Mao Zedong.
Are you trying to suggest they helped him?
Yes.
In fact, according to their story.
Well, while the KMT, the Kuomintang, was trying to annihilate the communists, the communists kept retreating.
That's the Long March.
I'm sure you've heard of that story, the Long March.
And during the Long March, They reach at one location, which is a well-known historical fact again, that there is this real steep gorge with a real river, big river running beneath it, and there is only one bridge that linked the two edges of the mountain, okay?
And that's a very, very difficult gate to pass through because on the other side of the bridge was the KMT soldier with the machine guns.
And on this side was the communists trying to cross over because at the back of the communists, the KMT is coming to destroy them.
And they need to run away because they cannot fight with the KMT directly.
They don't have the...
So, they were stuck at this bridge.
Now, the KMT also removed all the planks.
It's an iron bridge.
It's made from huge iron rope.
Planks sat on top of it, so we can walk across.
Well, the government, the KMT government, they knew that the companies were coming, so they removed all the planks.
So they were just big iron ropes running across.
And it was in the winter, it was slippery, it was wet, cold, and they had machine guns on the other side.
Well, allegedly, according to this group of aliens, They recognized, by the way, because they could tell history.
They could tell the future.
They could predict the future or read the future.
I don't know.
They said that Mao Zedong was the true leader.
So they also can tell that he will not be able to cause the breach because of the situation.
So they sent A group of, they call it wuxia, that means fighters, okay, invisibly on both sides, both sides of the bridge.
To help the communists to cross the bridge.
Now, it is, by the way, it is a historical fact that the communists did succeed crossing the bridge without suffering a lot of casualties.
Okay?
It is a known fact.
Now, which is really a miracle.
I mean, if you look at it rationally, because with the machine gun on one end, just shooting at anybody who tried to cross the bridge, how can, you know, they cross the bridge?
It is impossible, but they did it.
So, according to this alien group, they helped him.
Does this alien group communicate telepathically at all?
Yes.
They do?
They can do that.
Now, did they ever try to communicate with you telepathically?
No.
No?
No.
Not me.
I'm not a contactee.
Unfortunately.
Well, I'm not so sure about that in my world, but okay.
So, can you tell us what was the end result of all of this?
Did they do any kind of magical, you know, demonstrations for the people, the family, or anybody in the neighborhood?
Well, yeah.
They helped the family a lot, including taking care of their health situations.
Showing them the flying saucer, protecting them of being attacked by other villagers, because some of the villagers are really trying to harm them.
You know, remember when they were building the scientific park, there were mountains on both sides, right?
And they were trying to push huge rocks from the top of the mountain to crush them.
But the plot was known ahead of time by the aliens, so they protected them, according to the family.
When the rocks were falling, they moved the rock.
And also, there was another incident that they knew that they were going to be harmed, so they warned them ahead of time, so they avoided it.
Okay, now, these aliens, you're saying, decided recently to leave Earth?
Right, except six people.
Except six people?
Yeah, six people will still be there.
So they've decided to take all their group?
Yeah.
Except six people?
Thousands of people left.
How did they leave?
I don't know.
Well, through their crowds, I would imagine.
Okay, but did you hear about a lot of landings?
No, no, no.
Everything is invisible.
You couldn't see them.
I see.
Nobody can see them.
All right.
Okay, so they left six people.
Which ones did they leave?
Well, they have all the names, by the way.
I mean, I just don't remember them.
Okay, but they're not the king and queen.
No, no, no, no.
They're security people, military people.
Okay, so, but they never communicated with the Chinese government, to your knowledge?
To my knowledge, no.
Other than they had that meeting that they said they would have no matter what.
Well, they want to visit Hu Jintao.
And did he ever admit to meeting with them?
Nobody knows.
Well, if they said that, if he acknowledged their invitation, then they will reveal themselves.
If he did not do that, then they will just go visit him invisibly.
Right.
Including not talking to him.
Just be in the presence, in his presence, that's all.
So when they were in California, you said, what part of California, near LA? Yes.
Yeah, LA. And they looked Chinese then as well?
I don't know.
Probably.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But they did stay in California for many years, from the 1800s to the 1900s, for many years.
Initially, they liked the American Oh, were taking.
So they decided to leave.
They decided to abandon the United States and came to China instead.
Okay.
So they would have been here during Tiananmen Square.
Oh, yeah.
And did they have a reaction to that event?
No.
Did you know anything about that?
I did not hear any information concerning them.
I see.
I'm trying to remember.
I don't think so.
Okay.
I guess we'll try to wrap this up because pretty soon we have to go and possibly listen to the next speaker.
But can you tell us, is there any special message or anything that you want to communicate about them other than what they might have told so far?
They don't really have a special message.
Except that they said repeatedly that your understanding of science is very, very shallow.
There's a lot of things you don't know.
Your lifespan is very short, which doesn't have to be that way, because their lifespan is tens of thousands of years.
They said that if you focus your effort into scientific research, you will discover that.
Other than that, I mean...
There's no other message, as far as I could remember.
Okay, but with nearly 4,000 members, are you certain that they were not able to contact the government and then work with them?
Because it seems to me strange.
They didn't say anything like that.
I see.
But why, in other words, wouldn't the government want to...
You know, get more information.
If they had demonstrated abilities and powers, in our country, in the secret space program, they pay a great deal of attention to all the ETs that come to the planet.
And they want new technology and all this sort of thing.
So why would the Chinese government not be the same?
I don't know.
I mean, my impression is that the Chinese government did not Do you acknowledge that it's possible that even if they did pay attention, they wouldn't want someone to know about it?
No.
Well, one thing you must realize, I guess with all aliens, but especially this group, they do not tell lies.
If they know of something, they tell you.
Or they will tell you it's confidential.
They cannot tell you.
Okay, but so they stated unequivocally that they...
We're not contacted.
We're not dealing with the government.
The government was not interested.
This is what they said.
Well, yeah.
In fact, they were disappointed that the Chinese government did not pay any attention to them.
Okay.
Did they have a role in creating art from the past?
Art?
Art.
You know, there's some beautiful Chinese art from ancient times.
I think, now again, my facts are mixed up.
I think they did mention that one of the real ancient cave carvings showing a flying saucer were linked to them somehow.
But they are Heavily involved with the Chinese mythology and culture.
Including, there was another mythology called the eight fairies or eight gods that came to China and did a lot of goods for a lot of people.
And they said that those were them also.
And in fact, those eight people, they stayed in China all these years until 2004.
They only returned to their planet in 2004.
So they have been in China for thousands of years.
But again, nobody recognized them.
Nobody knew them.
The story, the folklore started thousands of years ago.
It was recorded, but there's no new folklore from them.
Okay, so do you understand or do they say that they are primarily positive for humanity?
Would you say?
Oh, yeah.
Positive, yeah.
So they are not a warlike group?
No, no, no.
No?
They just want to help people, take care of people.
They don't want to harm us in any way.
Okay.
Whatsoever.
All right.
I guess we have to go quite soon now.
Okay.
And so I want to thank you very much for sharing the story.
My pleasure.
Now, a lot of the information is in Chinese, in the website, and you can find it.
Yes.
Again, it's only in Chinese.
Okay, well, we'll try to find a translator, perhaps, for this story.
And the name of the story is in Chinese, or do you have an English name for the name of the story?
Well, I can, literal translation.
Dong Sing Chiu is the planet of the star from the east.
Star from the east.
Yeah, that's it.
They're starting at, I think, yeah.
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