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Oct. 23, 2013 - Project Camelot
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PROJECT CAMELOT: JAMES BOND IS REAL LIVE EVENT PART TWO
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Greg Hallett here.
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Yes, I can hear you, Greg.
Mike and Greg, you are live and you are on the screen and you are doing fine.
So if you want to continue talking and take up where we left off, that would be great.
What I'd like to do is talk about the 1948 U.S. Army Counterintelligence Corps report.
It comes out of Gregory Douglas' book on Heinrich Mueller, the head of the Gestapo, who we took over here to the United States and had him supposedly run counterintelligence operations against the Soviets.
Meanwhile, he was actually enriching himself.
And helping Nazis escape.
He actually had Otto Skorzeny come over to the United States in 1950 and at a lunch or dinner he spoke to Skorzeny and they both nodded that they knew that Hitler was still alive in 1950.
And the excerpt from the Counterintelligence Corps report is as follows.
Quote number seven, Annex A, the development and usage of former senior SS officers.
Most surviving SS members are not aware of Hitler's departure from Berlin and assume he died in the defense of the city.
And Greg Hallett is the amazing guy who has documented that Hitler escaped with the help of Ian Fleming and Christopher Crichton, a.k.a.
John Ainsworth Davis in the book OPJB.
When Ian Fleming was diverted from the mission to get Mormon out, Greg Hallens discovered that what he did was he went to Lake Boglesey and picked up Adolf Hitler and Eva Brown from a mini submarine.
Just like out of the song "The Yellow Submarine from the Beatles" which is what that song is referring to.
And in this diary of Heinrich Mueller by Gregory Douglas published it only when he died.
Mueller gave it to him on a promise he wouldn't do it until he died.
It says on page 19 on Borman, quote, He escaped from the ruins of Berlin on foot in a helicopter in a boat, a float plane.
So you've got Gregory Douglas noting that Borman made his escape by boat and float plane.
So you've got these sources verifying that Borman, even though he may have died in the 70s, he's got trustworthy witnesses who have it that Borman was rescued by a British intelligence team who are acting in the orders of Winston Churchill.
That's Ian Fleming's Operation Winning the Moon that Gregory Howland has documented in his book, Hitler vs.
was a British agent through what we call living histories.
That history is not just what you see in documents, because obviously if you're doing something nefarious, you're not going to leave a paper trail.
Rick, you want to add to that?
Yeah, I'd just like to clarify that Hitler got out of the bunker, went into effectively the water sewers between the river Spree.
Beneath there was a Red Cross hospital.
The Red Cross hospital was flooded and they kayaked through the tunnels, the bodies were let out, the WK202 The name of the submarine, the number and the captain and took them down under the cover of bodies down the river spree while essentially the Russians were just shooting at each other over the river spree and then they hid under Peacock's Island essentially in the submarine for a day and a half and
And then Hannah Reich flew down in a Junkers JU-52-3M G14E and opened up the belly of the plane.
The conning tower of the submarine rose up and they got into the plane.
And then the Junkers, flown by Hannah Reich with Hitler and Eva on board, flew to Lake Mugglesea, which is about maybe 12 minutes, landed there.
And Ian Fleming and Carolyn Saunders had seconded a motor launch and were dressed in Russian officers' uniforms and met the float plane and then Hitler passed the details and the...
The Swiss bank accounts and some codes and then Hitler and Eva got on the motor launch and it was beached and then Ian Fleming blew it up on a time delay device and then they got on a Lysander,
Western Lysander 3A, student number V6, V9673, flown by Hugh Verity, and then they flew to Barcelona with the Schunkers above or below them.
And in Barcelona, or near Barcelona, they were met by Raymond Serrano.
Who was a former 2AC of General Franco, and then Hitler immediately hid in the Montserrat Monastery, which is 35 kilometres, could be miles, I'm not sure at the moment, northwest of Barcelona, Montserrat Monastery.
And when things got hot, they hid in the old destroyed cafe building up and behind the Montserrat Monastery.
And it's since been documented that there are a lot of high-ranking Nazis went to the Montserrat Monastery.
Okay, but at this moment, didn't he also end up in Argentina or Antarctica from there?
No, but there are a lot of Hitler doubles, and there are a lot of reports of boats, U-boats, etc., and a lot of the timing doesn't fit, and a lot of people think, oh, U-boat, therefore Hitler, wasn't the case.
So Hitler was still in the Montserrat monastery for quite some time and he was living in the Parc de Citadela and he was known as the German Gardener.
And Spain had a peace pact which was under the cover of the Greg, I get the feeling that they didn't want him to continue as their leader.
I think that there was a consensus that they knew he was an agent of destruction of Germany, maybe not a British agent, which we know now for you that he really was, that they just wanted him to show on the sidelines.
Mike, I'm getting notes here from the listeners that you're not loud enough.
You sound okay at my end, but if you could go a little louder with your audio, that would be great.
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Some volume, how's that?
Okay, well, it's not great.
Let's see.
I'm not sure what else to do with your audio.
Hopefully it will be better.
Go ahead, Mike, with what you were going to say.
I think that their growing consensus was at the end of World War II that Hitler was a bad guy.
He was actually hurting Germany.
So they needed to get him out there symbolically to have a victory, get him to Spain.
But I don't think that they really wanted him to take over the Fourth Reich, as we call it, the Fourth Reich Nazi movement.
And the real leader of that would be Martin Bormann.
And so Martin Bormans in Antarctica, Argentina, all over the place, running around.
Because Hitler had done a terrible job beating Germany, and of course at the end there, he actually told everybody to destroy everything, to score terrorist policy of everything that remained in Germany.
So what that would mean was, you know, he had shown his hand that he was just in it for himself.
He didn't have any concern at all for the German people.
That after the war was over, they have to, you know, live on something.
You know, they have to have some food to survive.
And he was saying, burn everything.
Okay.
Do we have Jim Mars?
Jim, are you here with us?
I'm here.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Now I can hear you.
Your video, I guess, is not working, at least on my screen.
However, I can hear you.
Do you have something to add to this?
Well, yes, I think the survival of Morton Borman is just pretty well established.
There was a New York Times reporter named Charles Hickam who ended up writing a book called Trading with the Enemy.
Excellent, excellent book about all of the business connections, not only in Germany and England, but also in America, IBM. The city national bank, which is now Citicorp, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Rockefeller Financial Empire.
And in fact, he documented that even at the end of the war, even in early 1945, There was Standard Oil, which is, of course, the Rockefellers' Standard Oil ships in the Caribbean refueling Nazi U-boats.
So it was all a big business deal.
Charles Hickam, the reporter, actually tracked Martin Borman down to South America and had even arranged an interview with him in the 50s because apparently Martin Borman was quite proud of this Nazi international, as Joseph actually tracked Martin Borman down to South America and had even arranged an interview with him in the 50s because apparently And he kind of wanted it known, everything he had done.
And Charles Hickam actually flew to South America and was all set to have a sit-down interview with Martin Borman, but it was prevented at the last minute by Hydrate Miller, who said, wait a minute, we don't want to reveal all this just yet.
And so I think the idea that Martin Borman survived has been really well established, despite the...
The claims of the West German government early on that they had found his bones somewhere.
But of course, Heinrich Mueller's, one of his specialties was to take corpses and work on them, either like dentally, for dental records purposes, And then they could always turn up and say, well, here's the body.
This was, you know, so-and-so and so-and-so, and they died.
The question, of course, about Adolf Hitler, I suppose one that will probably go on for years, but there is a lot of tantalizing information that this is true.
One of the things that sticks in my mind that I told about in my Rise of the Fourth Reich was the...
Brother-in-law of Eva Brown, who was executed in the courtyard of the Reich's Chancellery, they said for desertion, and yet Hitler had two or three days earlier told everybody, get out, go fend for yourself.
So why did they kill him?
Well, he had met shortly before his death with a friend of his in Berlin and told her that he knew a terrible secret, and that was that there were more than one Hitlers in Germany, in Berlin, and that if Hitler ever found out he knew this, in Berlin, and that if Hitler ever found out he knew this, that they would And sure enough, they killed him.
So I think there is a lot of tantalizing evidence to indicate that Bormann and perhaps even Hitler and certainly high-ranking Nazis survived the war, were brought to the United States by John J. McCloy, who in the 30s was the head of City National Bank, who in the 30s was the head of City National Bank, the largest lender of funds to the Nazi
And then later, of course, at the end of the war, he was named the High Commissioner of Germany, and he was the one that was allowing all these Nazis to come into the United States, while his protege, Alan Dulles, who had served as a lawyer for Sullivan Cromwell, and...
and represented...
The Nazi interest, the Schroeder Bank, Baron Kurt von Schroeder, of course, one of the largest financial supporters of Hitler, and Alan Dulles had then, of course, become head of the CIA, and he was very busy whitewashing the backgrounds of these Nazis.
The Nazis continued to be a powerful factor and force in the world even today.
Yes, I think there's no doubt of that.
It looks like we've got James Fetzer back online here, and that's great to see.
Again, if I could ask everyone, since we are live, if you are doing anything else, if you could be sure to be muted if you're not speaking.
That would help sound for the listeners.
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Make sure your sound is up.
Jim Viken, your video is finally working.
If you could step forward at this time and address some of the issues that we're talking about in terms of the idea that Ian Fleming may have aided Hitler in his escape.
Anything that you know in that regard?
Or wondering whether or not the fact that he might have been involved in that was a mind control incident, so to speak.
Do you want me to speak to that?
Yes, if you wouldn't mind.
That's not really not my expertise.
I can just say that in reading through Mike Sparks' book and hearing Greg Hallett on Jim Pitts' program a number of times, and then also reading Jim Marr's excellent book, The Rise of the Fourth Reich, I really believe that there's a strong case that there were more than one Hitler.
I know that in intelligence work, There are always doubles used, even for street-level intelligence work.
I was told by a number of active agents that in the United States they have a file of doubles.
Anybody that's out working in the street, they have maybe one or two other people who look pretty much like them.
If that person goes off the reservation and doesn't mind its superiors, they'll take a double of it, send them in to rob a dairy store or something, have a warrant put out on them and trump up a false charge on them.
These are standard operating tradecraft.
So I would believe that the case that Mike makes, as well as the case that Jim Mars makes, and the case that Greyhound makes, to me it's overwhelming evidence.
And I do believe that Hitler survived the war.
I think the most important thing is, I'm not sure what role he played after the war, but I can tell you that The mind control technology did not come from the Americans after World War II. They did not have the ability to program people and do what's called soul murder, where they torture a person and fracture their mind in different parts.
And in my research, what I was able to find out, and I was actually told this, that a lot of our military tactics after World War Over by the Nazis, Heinrich Mueller and the Galen organization.
And I think one of the informants that I talked to told me that Americans are very naive about how the Nazis set up our military.
That under Galen, Galen, his greatest intelligence operation was conning the American top military brass and politicians, spooking them about the Russians and saying, Hey, we have the best technology.
We fully infiltrated the Russians during World War II. This is the communist threat, the biggest threat.
They're going to destroy the United States.
And I think this created an element of fear in the politicians and the military.
And of course the defense contractors love this because this created the rationale to gear up and create the largest military force in history, which has stayed huge.
I didn't know we were worried about this in this last I think Hitler probably did survive.
I think he was marginalized.
I think he was a secret agent for the British.
I think that the real danger was the massive amount of money taken out of Germany by the National Socialist Party and invested in over, I believe, I don't know, I can't remember what Jim Mars listed in his book, but I've been told there's 750 corporations invested.
Now that's a lot of corporations, and like I said, when I bought this expensive ski jacket, I found this little Nazi insignia on it and thought it was sort of outrageous.
Basically, what has happened is the United States has probably the most advanced land control technology.
They've used it on their soldiers to make them more effective.
They've used it creating psychic soldiers.
They have used it for advanced language training for some of their undercover soldiers.
I knew one guy that told me in confidence he was put to sleep for For 60 days, they hooked an IV bag up to him, and they would wake him up periodically, clean him up, and then put him back to sleep, and he had earphones on.
And when this was over, he spoke seven languages.
Now, everything else he told me proved to be true.
I was never able to verify that.
They would smuggle him under the tunnel into East Germany, under the tunnel in Berlin, and he would impersonate various German or Russian officers.
I know that a lot of his work didn't tell me but was true.
So in order to do this, this is 20 years ago.
You can imagine how far advanced the mind control is now.
I know that some of the Nazis went to Russia and were, after the war, were captured by the Russians and developed various technologies like the Lida machine, which was brought to the United States.
There's over 2,000 patents on high-tech electronic mine control.
200 of them were unclassified.
The rest were classified.
It's really a staggering thing, but my main point is, and I have to give Mike a lot of credit for this because I've never really thought about it before, but the expertise for mine control through the advanced cases that we have now had to have come from the Nazis after World War II.
and the Nazis completely infiltrated our military and our intelligence system, took them over, and what we have now is a system that's built up.
We have a fascist police state with the new American Gestapo, which is the Homeland Security and TSA, and now they're starting to put their hands down your pants and set up truck stops, traffic stops.
It's x-ray standard at every shopping center.
So basically, I'd say Mike and Jim Mars and Greg Hallett and Jim Fester have put this all together.
And I think Jim Fester told me one time that Maeve Russell had done some pioneering research connecting the Nazis to Polis and to people involved in the Kennedy assassination.
And I think once the dots are all connected, we can see that we do have a forthright right now.
Yeah, I think there's no doubt about that.
Can I add something to that, Carrie?
Sure, absolutely.
Okay, when I was researching and putting together the My rise of the Fourth Reich, I never thought for a minute that I would be dealing with the Kennedy assassination.
And yet, as these names, John J. McCloy, Allen Dulles, the Rockefeller Foundation, as these names kept coming up, including low-level FBI, CIA people, and it all goes back to the Nazis.
And I don't think May Brussels was that far out of line suggesting this Nazi element within the Kennedy assassination.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
She was a very astute researcher.
I remember her a long time ago.
Extremely an amazing, amazing person.
Let's see, James Viken, you've been quite quiet during this interchange.
Do you want to add something here?
I think you mean me, Carrie, Jim Fetzer.
Oh, okay, I'm sorry.
I got your last names mixed up here.
One of the works that I found especially astonishing was in the first place that Ian Fleming should have been involved in the extrication of Hitler from Germany and eventually that he would find refuge in Spain, which has been discussed in several respects here,
but even more so the idea that there could be An enormous base in the Antarctic that the United States could have sent a flotilla there and that it could have been defeated by forces that appear to have been using Nazi technology based on anti-gravity devices and weapons.
And I just can't resist the opportunity to ask Mike Sparks to elaborate on this because it seems to me it's one of the truly astonishing dimensions of this entire story.
Yes, Jim.
What I want to say is he set the stage about the Nazis.
The Nazis always do everything in a grandiose way.
When we talk about Martin Bormann being Hitler's bag man, that wasn't a thing that just happened towards the end of the war.
We're talking when you read Albert Speer's book, Inside the Third Reich.
That Bormann was taking Hitler's, we'll call it, regime and making money for Hitler.
Hitler was making money off stamps.
When you bought a stamp, it had Hitler's face on it.
He was bringing ka-ching into Hitler's own pockets.
And Hitler wanted a base, you know, for himself.
And that was the first thing called Oberstelzer.
And that's when people think Berkshire's garden.
It's really built into the mountain, and Albert Speer obviously is an architect, so he helped out on that.
But Morten Borman is a guy drawing all these monies in from various rackets, and Morten Borman did this in the 30s.
So he's been there all along with the Nazi party, making Hitler rich and getting all kinds of money, and they're using this money to build these huge buildings, these huge centers, these huge underground bases.
Everything that Germany does is in a grandiose, architecturally way, yet here we've got what I call the low-technology German defeat theory of Ladislas Farago and others.
The World War II ended, they just took the money and ran, and then they took dead-end jobs in South America and just meted out a barely livable existence.
That just does not wash.
The German style is to do everything in a grandiose way.
And so I quote you from Gregory Douglas' book again.
Like Attorney General Wiesenthal, who is always one step behind Borman, the elusive man was constantly moving around, hidden in underground bunkers built by Nazi escapees deep inside various South American countries, which these gentlemen claimed held more Third Reich leaders than the Nuremberg Party rallies. which these gentlemen claimed held more Third Reich leaders than So what you've got here is that the Germans are using all this money and they're making these huge bases, which is of course what Ian Fleming is saying.
And what I want to do is give away the secret here.
If you don't mind, one of my secrets in the book is what Spectre really is.
If you take language, right?
Most people think language comes with its roots, you know, in Latin and, you know, in other languages that forms the words, you know, the fragments of the words together.
That's a pretty esoteric knowledge.
And Ian Fleming had that knowledge because before World War II began, he went to Kitzbühel in Switzerland We're good to go.
You know, you think of him as a guy chasing women in adventure.
But he was doing this because they were training him to be a spy.
Yet Ian Fleming knows that the average person is not going to go to a Latin word and try to find out what the, you know, the word Spectre's Latin antecedents are.
So I came across a much simpler way of taking Spectre apart and figuring out what it means.
If you look at the word SPECTRE, which is an acronym, but you look at the word as a word, you take the last two letters to SPECTRE off, which are R-E, and you take those two letters and you put it in front of the rest of SPECTRE, you get the word RESPECT.
And if you know what RESPECT means, that's exactly what all the Nazis were about.
The Nazis were smarting because they lost World War I.
They wanted respect.
And I've got quotes, direct quotes showing from Hitler saying, we must build up our Navy because it must be a certain size so we can have respect of the world.
And what Ian Fleming is doing is saying that Spectre is really the Nazis.
Okay.
Very well supported point there, Mike.
Thank you for that.
Kerry, if I might add, though, Mike, you know, I'm so stunned by this business about the Antarctic.
I really would like for you to elaborate on that.
I mean, how confident are you that there was an enormous base there, that we set the flotilla, that we were actually defeated by, among other issues, anti-gravity.
Yeah, Mike, let me say here that I'd like you to address this whole area of anti-gravity and how it worked into Ian Fleming and the Nazis and Camelot has information about the base down in Antarctica that it is quite substantial and there's all kinds of secrets that are aligned And associated with that,
and Richard Hoagland has also revealed some of that information himself on his website, Enterprise Mission.
But if you could address that, because free energy and how it was used by the Nazis before the end of World War II, etc., etc., What happens is you've got to look at the religious beliefs of the Nazis.
The Nazis believe in what they call the black sun, that there is energy that is in between the atoms, that is just coming from nowhere.
If you look at the atom, you see the nucleus and the protons and neutrons circling the atom.
What we find is, and I'm going to say a grid pattern.
Pretend like the thing that the backdrop of the atoms is like a grid pattern, okay?
Like a grid graph paper.
There are sparkles of energy that are coming out from nowhere, from like another dimension.
That's zero point energy.
There is energy.
That is just coming out from another dimension, into our dimension, that are not captured by an atom or anything.
There's this energy that you can rake in.
And the Germans, with their Black Sun religious beliefs, the Viril Society, they believe that they are a people that came from an underground society that survived the worldwide flood, and that these people in the Arctic North and the Arctic South Coming out of the hollow earth, I know people get freaked out about that, but that's where the connection of Ian Fleming and Indiana Jones and his brother Peter Fleming went looking for the Colonel Fawcett who got lost down there.
You have no choice, but you've got to go there.
The German scientists got their inspiration from, they like to say, non-Jewish science.
They always like to stick the knife in their old Albert Einstein.
But they're going with this quantum science and the quantum physics, and they're going with an alternative view of reality, that there's this zero-point energy that they could break in if they could figure out how to do it.
So that's where their science was directed, from their religious beliefs.
And of course, Jim Mars can elaborate.
In 1936, supposedly a flying disc was recovered in Germany, and that really gave them inspiration for their anti-gravity work.
But what happened in Antarctica was they have an interest in going there because that's where they believe they came from.
The Aryans came from the Arctic North and the Arctic South.
And Hitler sent a team of people down here in the 1930s from a, you know, ship that had float planes.
And Neuschwanland was marked as German territory in the Kuih Maudsland area.
And if you go to that same area, which is called the Bunger Hills area, there are warm water lakes in Antarctica, which defies all intuition because you would think everything's frigid like crazy down there.
But what it means is if it's warm water, there's some geothermic activity going underneath to warm this water, which means underground it might be habitable.
It might be in a very short-sleeved environment.
Now, what you can do is go to my website, and you can also go to jamesbondisforreal.com, or you can go to my YouTube channel, which is youtube.com forward slash user forward slash dynamicpara2, D-Y-N-M-I-C-P-A-R-A-2.
You will see that I put a video together called Operation Windjamper.
And if you go to see that video, you will see there are huge holes in the Bunker Hills area, which you can see from Google Maps.
You can zoom in on it, and you can see these 104 diameter holes, which are begging for somebody to go down there and discover.
And in my video, Operation Windjammer, I show you where the nearest base is, that you could go to that point, fly in a short takeoff and landing plane, and take snowmobiles, and you're only 25 miles away.
So I've actually laid out a plan to take a team to go to those openings in the Antarctic and explore what's down there.
And what I recommend they do is they bring UGVs.
These are unmanned ground vehicles, you know, small robots.
Before you send human beings down on rappelling ropes, which is called spelunking, send some robots down there first.
And this is all covered in the book.
In the last chapter of my book, I say it's time for us to be James Bond citizens because this is what James Bond does.
He will find out where the underground base is, and then he's going to go in there and he's going to find out.
So I'm not talking about let's sit there and just talk about this as a debating society here.
I say let's get off our tail and go down there and find out.
And if necessary, there's some people down there we need to shoot and kill.
We need to shoot and kill.
I'm not missing my works down here.
Okay, I want you guys to keep in mind that Mike Sparks works for the defense industry.
I'm not sure if they know what they've got going on here.
Kerry, let me jump in here, and Jim Fetzer, I think you'll appreciate this little story.
One of the key smoking guns of the whole Operation High Jump, that was the 1947 expedition by Admiral Byrd to Antarctica, and of course we were told that that was just a mapping expedition, and yet all you have to do is look at what they took down there,
destroyers, Well, that was something far in advance of anything we certainly had at that time.
So, you know, So I tried to track that, and I could never find a solid source on that quote.
And so this has, of course, led to ambiguity and controversy, and maybe that happened, maybe it didn't.
But I'll tell you, it has now been nailed down, and here's the story.
There was an American reporter named Lee Van Atta who accompanied the expedition Operation High Jump down to Antarctica.
And then as they came back, they stopped at Santiago, Chile, and he jumps off and goes to the local newspaper, the El Mercurio, and files a story in which he quotes Admiral Byrd as saying, in the next war, we'll face flying machines that can go from pole to pole in a matter of minutes.
But this was only reported there and in the Spanish.
Okay, apparently by the time they got back to the United States, there was a blackout put across all of this, and so you'll never find an English addition to this.
But I have seen the clipping from the El Mercurio, and that's exactly what Byrd said.
So I think it lends a lot of support that they ran into some very exotic weaponry in South America, and they had to turn around and come back.
This thing is just so astonishing to me.
Mike, anything you can do to elaborate on seems to me extraordinary in a dozen different ways.
I'm just utterly fascinated and frankly dumbfounded about this aspect of it.
Yes, I can elaborate.
You have men die.
See, this is the part where it gets real serious and tragic.
Men did die.
Planes were shot down from Admiral Byrd's mission.
Now, of course, they're going to say it was a mechanical failure and they crashed and that's a tragedy thing.
But we're saying no, it was actual combat, that these planes were shot down by anti-gravity craft of the Germans that were down there.
And so what happens is, and this is 1947, another thing lending to this credibility thing is, in 1946, World War II is over.
Everyone was clamoring to go home to their country, you know, back to their home to get the war's over.
Yet they held thousands of men on active duty to do this mission.
So it can't be just a National Geographic, Marlon Perkins, let's go take pictures of the penguins kind of thing.
They're going down there with thousands of men and there's a military force.
That's because there's some kind of military threat down there, you know.
So anyway, 1946 goes by, 1947 goes by, we have the team rebuffed.
And I want to make one mention.
This is a connection I got from Jim Mars.
The guy, Byrd himself, is related to David Byrd, which is the guy who owned the Texas School Book Depository, who was known as Dry Well David.
He was a very good oil well guy, I guess, or that's just a joke.
But he's owning the Texas School Book Depository, and he's connected to the Rockefellers.
So during the 30s, Admiral Byrd made his reputation going down to Antarctica and the Arctic looking for these foreign lands, hopefully these hollow earth civilizations, because of the Rockefeller money.
So this is going to tie into what the Nazis really are.
Really, the Nazi playbook was written in the United States of America.
Nazism is really Rockefellerism.
Rockefellerism is you go to work, you work till you're dead, and we might give you some social welfare, we might give you a VW buck, but you work like a slave, and you worship the nation state, and if we go to war, you become cannon fodder.
That's the model of fascism.
That's really an American invention of the Rockefellers.
So anyway, the Rockefellers are very much into this Pre-flood world, we've got high technology, the Lemurians, the Atlanteans.
Let's go find these people.
So they're funding during the 30s.
Rockefeller is funding, and Byrd's funding his relative to go look for these things.
And so that's where he got his reputation and made him a Navy Admiral.
So when World War II comes along, Admiral Richard Byrd is made an Admiral, and of course he's the ideal man to lead an expedition down there to try to evict the Nazis.
Now how...
How energetic was he about evicting the Nazis now that you know that he's sympathetic to the Nazis is a big question.
But so 1952 comes along.
This is, again, facts that are inconvenient that we'd like to ignore, but we have no choice.
In 1952, there was a formation of flying disks that flew over the White House.
Now, you have to assume, in the context of everything that's going on, that this is a signal from the Nazis down in Antarctica, hey, you back off, Truman.
You leave us alone.
We'll leave you alone.
You'll let your people think that you won World War II, but you leave us alone.
And then the culminating event of this is in 1957.
Now, this is again where you do the reality check.
In 1957, it was a geophysical year, they sent down a National Geographic expedition of Great Britain, the United States, and Russia.
Now, I'll say that again.
Russia.
What in the heck is Russia having to do with anything that the Allies are doing?
Right now, aren't we supposed to be in the middle of a Cold War?
Not only does this group go down to Antarctica in 1957, they set off nuclear blasts, supposedly for atmospheric research.
Now, what do you think really happened here?
Yeah, where do you think Ground Zero was?
Probably the Nazi base, right?
Queen Mag's land.
Yeah, no, Schwabenland.
Okay, what year is that that we're talking about, that they let off those nuclear...
1957, the geophysical year.
I just want to throw something out here and I hope I don't take you guys off course but Camelot has information that there is a vortex there and that there may have been a very special base down there that went off world and that still does for that matter and that there's an interdimensional portal basically and that From there, they go into the fourth dimension, believe it or not.
And my understanding is that this is where the Nazis ended up going.
And I wonder if you guys have any information about that, because we are in the end talking about the Anunnaki and that link-up.
Well, you know, see, this is what I wanted to point out.
This kind of goes off in a different direction, but the Operation High Jump and Admiral Byrd and the whole expedition, that was in early 1947, and I think they came back like in March or April.
What happened in June of 1947?
Okay, Kenneth Arnold sees disks flying over Mount Rainier.
What happens the next month on July the 4th?
Oops, something crashes at Roswell.
It all ties in.
Right, but let me go to Kerry's question.
The thing that proves that Kerry might be onto something there in Hamelot is why are there so many countries with bases in Antarctica?
How many base camps do you need to film penguins?
I like penguins, but do we need like 11 countries down there with bases that are habitated year-round?
Well, this is part of what I find so astonishing about this Ed Harding stuff, Mike.
I mean, it's a huge contribution to a massive missing piece of history if all of this is true.
And while we have some circumstantial evidence, and Jim was contributing some additional remarks, I just find all this really dumbfounding.
It's utterly astonishing to me.
It's going to get worse, Jim.
It's going to get worse.
Greg Halep's going to add to this because when we tried to start having people get down there who are not part of the government, they're not part of any Illuminati, they were just wanting to get in an airliner, drink some cocktails, and look down and see the wonderful ice flows down in Antarctica.
Well, they stopped that real quick.
They made that airplane, that airliner, full of people crash into a mountain.
The actual inertial navigation system was messed with, so they flew right into a mountain.
So now you don't have people doing these sightseeing tours of Antarctica.
Greg Hallett has direct information that these people were murdered.
Greg, do you want to take it from that?
Yeah, yeah.
Actually, the Spine Master in here earlier, he was just listening in.
He didn't get a chance to speak.
A couple of things is that...
The Spear of Destiny was, I believe, stolen from the royal family.
I've been adopted in two.
It was in Pina Castle, I believe.
And that's actually, I guess, Destiny of Nations makes them prominent.
So that seemed to be that the Nazis had stolen that.
And it was in the castle that I was closely related to.
Now, Admiral Byrd...
I died supposedly in about 1957, but I met the Tulad Sea of Intelligence, and he had been drinking in a bar with him in 1961 on Albert Street, Torkman City, along with the chief's staff.
And then Admiral Byrd said, you didn't see me.
And he was actually on his way back down to Antarctica again.
And Christchurch holds the American base, which is a leaping point, one of the major leaping points to Antarctica.
Christchurch, which is now the earthquake capital of the world.
And that was attacked by HAARP. And briefly, the people on the ship outside the earthquake in Haiti were also on the same ship outside the earthquake in Christchurch.
So it was a man-made attack.
Now, the Erebus plane crash was an Air New Zealand flight, I think it was from memory of the 28th of November 1979, and a lot of people from the city that I lived in, Tauranga, were on that plane.
About 30 people from my town died on that day.
From memory, I haven't looked at the notes for quite a while.
The Airbus plane flight that crashed was the second flight.
So they had the first flight, which was about a week before.
And all of the remnants of the medical experiments and slavery down there rioted.
When they heard the first civilian plane go over, they rioted and caused a whole lot of explosions.
And, you know, there was obviously scarring on the ice.
So when the second plane flight came through, they had already arranged to have it crashed.
And it was Captain Jim Collins and the co-pilot was Greg Casson.
And what had happened was that Robert Muldoon, who was British Tavistock, who was Prime Minister at the time, And he had arranged for the coordinates to be changed, so instead of flying through the valley, they were actually flying directly into the mountain.
And I actually knew the daughter of the pilot, so I got a little bit of briefing for her.
Someone in intelligence actually gave me the secret audio recordings And while I was overseas doing the Holy Grail thing, that recording was then stolen off me.
But I have listened to it, so I know what it's about.
It's actually about sexual compromise of people so that they won't be witnesses against the government position.
So it was actually a New Zealand government assassination of those people, and it was CIA and DuPont run.
It was the DuPont working with the CIA who were present at all of the Air New Zealand meetings with Prime Minister Robert Muldoon arranging for the plane to crash.
And for that, Rob Muldoon was given a knighthood.
Okay, but Greg, since you're talking about DuPont, where are you saying, because this didn't come out of just New Zealand, it must have been orchestrated from either British intelligence or Germany.
Well, it also ties in with the global warming hoax.
And DuPont were involved because their patents for their aerosols were running out, so they had to change from CFCs to HCFCs so that the Asians couldn't reproduce their aerosols for free.
So what they found out was that Mount Erebus was producing more CFCs than all the rest of the volcanoes in the world put together.
Can you guys see me?
Yeah, and where is Mount Erebus?
Where is it located?
Mount Erebus is in Antarctica.
It's the mountain that the plane crashed into.
Oh, really?
Okay, very interesting.
So what they did was they crashed the plane into Mount Erebus because it was producing more CFCs than the rest of the world put together, and Mount Erebus was actually creating the hole in the ozone layer in a natural 60-year cycle.
So they wanted to ban scientists from going to measure that, So they crashed a plane into it and declared it a human-free zone.
Okay, well that's very interesting.
I just want to throw out one thing here.
It's a double operation, right?
You've got the medical experiments in Antarctica which have been going on with about, I think it was about 1,200 German women and women from the Ukraine and about 10,000 soldiers who have been breeding for about 40 years, who created a population which could have been as high as 1.5 to 2 million people.
And a lot of them, they were doing medical experiments there that they were also doing in Vietnam Wars, which included head transplants.
So they're doing all the illegal medical experiments.
So they broke out, so they had to crash the plane, so they crashed into Erebus, and at the same time, they covered up the DuPont scam, which is the HCFCs, and created the global warming hoax.
Not to mention Lake Bostock, which is a whole other thing, and the deaths of several scientists down there from apparently very strange pathogens.
Okay, well, let me ask you if you both are aware of this book called, this thing called New Berlin, which is a base apparently occupied by the Nazis and started, which would have conducted those kinds of experiments you're talking about.
And a book that came into our hands, written by this guy named Barabu Vedu, Who is a mind-controlled individual who came out of, he said, Antarctica, escaped from the base, and wrote this amazing book, which contains some of the information it contains is very, very interesting.
And a lot of it is written backwards in all kinds of gobbledygook and quite an amazing story.
The way it got to us, the guy in MUFON that sort of pawned it off on us was so afraid to even touch it, he thought that there was a spell had been put upon it, etc., etc., And the guy himself is now trying to recover.
He lives in Germany, I believe, Berbu Vedu.
He's gone through all kinds of mind control.
Amazing story, but I don't know if you guys know anything about that.
It's on the Project Camelot site for anyone who's interested.
I have a look.
Now the other thing that happened with the Erebus crash, which is quite interesting, is that there were survivors.
They said there were no survivors, but there were 13 survivors and the Americans flew out in a helicopter from McMurdo Sound and used incendiary devices and burnt the wax coating off the plane.
And incinerated the survivors who were already in seven layers of clothing, whereas they had been civilians in a plane drinking champagne.
And then when the person in charge of the autopsies at Grafton Hospital in Auckland, which is about one mile from here, he noticed that some of the survivors were burn victims and they had seven layers of clothing on.
And he offered his retirement at a fee and got it.
So the whole thing was an inside scandal run by the New Zealand government, influenced by the CIA and DuPont.
That's the Erebus crash, and that's the cover story.
That's the cover story for the medical experiment.
It's also the beginning story of the global warming.
I hear you.
But to get back to the theme here, because I know we can go all over the place and all of this is valuable, but in terms of James Bond is real and in terms of the trail that you're kind of following here, Mike Sparks, and all of the rest of you, what is the story with regard to free energy?
How much do you think that Ian Fleming knew about that?
I think he knew it all because his dirty assault unit commandos captured the entire Creeks Marine, you know, naval records at the end of the war.
And with him being an expert in language and able to read it himself, I think he sped read through all of these documents with an eye looking towards exactly what we're looking for.
He's looking for anti-gravity technology.
He's looking for evidence of thousands of Germans escaping.
And to other places, now you say this is conjecture.
No, I didn't have a chance to put it in my book, but in the book, The Man Called Intrepid, you know, by William Stevenson, about William Stevenson, you will see a map in South America drawn by Ian Fleming of their planned locations of where Germany was going to set up.
So Ian Fleming was very, very much aware of the Germans escaping in good order and moving down to Antarctica and South America, and he had access to all those records.
Now, the clues of anti-gravity directly relating to Fleming is the book Thunderball.
In the book Thunderball, he has the villain's high-speed yacht, hydrofoil, called the Disco Volante, and that is, again, in code, it means flying saucer.
So he's actually calling the bad guy's boat a flying saucer.
That's not an accident.
Yeah, yeah.
A flying saucer emerged out of the water.
Mike, could you please talk about the book Ginny Ginny Bang Bang?
Okay.
Right.
Now, in the book Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, you have Ian Fleming writing a children's story where a car can morph into different types of vehicle transportation modes.
It could be a car on the road with wheels, it could float on the water, and it could fly with wings.
But what's very interesting is at the end of the book and at the end of the movie, they fly away, okay?
Well, in the movie...
The movie was adapted by his friend, Raul Dahl.
Raul Dahl was a RAF pilot, and he got wounded in the war, but he was a pilot and a war hero.
He came over here to the United States to work with Steven's spy ring, which is a British security coordination.
Jeanette Conant writes about this in the book called The Irregulars.
Anyway, in the book, he describes how Raul Dahl was talking directly to FDR and trying to influence him to get the Nazi influence out of America, and they could not do it.
FDR literally did not have the power, apparently, to evict people like the Rockefellers or to send a battalion of army soldiers to surround Standard Oil and stop them from trading with the enemy.
But anyway, this is the guy, Raul Dahl, wrote these demented children's stories you may remember, like James and the Giant Peach.
There's some kind of demented stuff going on.
He's a Norwegian guy, no offense to Tommy, but he's writing these Norwegian-based folk tales and whatever, and he wrote the script for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
And at the end of the movie, when the movie's supposed to end and it's all a fairy tale, you know, kids, I was just telling a tale, a tall tale about this flying car.
At the end of the movie, Dick Van Dyke and the kids take off, and they don't have wings.
They take off with anti-gravity.
And I think that's Raoul Dahl who's in on all this, telling the world that this is all about anti-gravity.
Ian Fleming and the secrets of the Nazis is based on this really groundbreaking, literally groundbreaking, breaking contact at the ground.
Anti-gravity, the technology.
Mike, I've always thought that was one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen.
I couldn't stand it until now.
Any ink might have some significance.
Yeah, the movie's written in metaphor.
Every time you look at something Ian Fleming writes, he's writing about something else with some kind of cover.
In fact, I'm going to go ahead and give you guys and the readers and the listeners here a clue and a revelation of who...
Ernst Stavro Blofeld really is.
Of course, there's a lot of people who have already done their stab at it, and it's all wrong.
As I said before, respect is really what Spectre is.
So, Moorman is really Blofeld.
Martin Bormann is the true identity of Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
It's a little bit Hitler with the respect angle, but really, Ernst Stavro Blofeld, if you look at him, he's going from country to country.
He's got a secret organization, and the minute somebody crosses him, people are killed.
That's Martin Bormann.
And to give you an example, in the book Aftermath by Ladislas Farrago, what happened was he describes how Bormann, who's supposedly this kind of nice guy and he's just trying to live quietly, he turns on people that threaten him by instantly killing him.
Four people were sent to Argentina ahead of Mormon to be the bagman.
In other words, they're going to make sure that the money that's coming from German U-boats every three months, you've got German U-boats coming down to Argentina full of loot, which came out to about a billion dollars to the Peron Empire.
You had four bag men, four men, making sure that money just didn't vanish and disappear.
Well, those four men later on went to Borman and said, hey, you know, we've been doing this for you.
We want our cut.
All four of those guys very soon were found dead with their throats slit and killed in various accidental ways.
So Martin Borman is definitely Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
He even looks like it.
Yeah, I've got contacts in Argentina and they've confirmed that Orman was having meetings with Perron, you know, and there's first-hand sightings.
So the question is, really, Carrie, what level of German forthright reality do we have?
Do we have the low technology, where they're just running for their lives and they're taking jobs at Walmart, so to speak, to live?
I don't think so.
No way.
That they are what I call high technology German defeat theory.
In fact, which I say, we let them go.
Or in the case of high technology, Hitler didn't get it.
He didn't get the technology because Hitler was trying to destroy Germany, actually.
I've come up with a new theory now that merges Joseph Farrell and Jim Mars together with Vladislav Farrago and the low technology guys.
My new theory...
I call it diversionary survival theory.
I believe that the high-profile Nazis like Borman, Mueller, Adolf Eichmann, these guys are being used as rabbits.
Because if you look at any intelligence operation, there's going to be misdirection.
I believe that these guys deliberately...
Live the way that they live, moving from country to country, to keep the people not looking at the secret underground bases in Antarctica and in remote areas of South America.
In other words, they have a hidden secret.
And I don't know how to explain it to you, but when I'm reading Heinrich Mueller's diary, I sense something is being hidden by him.
That there's a higher German reality that he's hiding.
Yeah, yeah, and I agree with you, Mike, and that's when you've got to start looking at the occult and the attention of the occult.
And what the Germans wanted to do, what the Nazis wanted to do, was get the Spirit of Destiny and get the Holy Grail and maybe get the Ark of the Covenant.
It appears that they got the Spirit of Destiny and they literally stole it from the family.
It was probably hidden behind a wardrobe in the castle.
I've asked them for a time of actually when it was taken and I think it was about 27, 28, 29 around there.
Now, Hitler also wanted the Holy Grail and he ransacked Europe to try and get the Holy Grail and failed because the way you get the Holy Grail is not to ransack Europe or pressure it out.
It's something that you draw out So, they didn't get it, and we got it.
So, you know, it's kind of good.
It's good that they didn't get it.
Well, I think that there's some disagreement as to what the Holy Grail actually is as well.
Yeah, I know it's a whole topic, but it's a book, a chalice, and a stone.
One, two, or three, or all three.
I think the Holy Grail is referring to the genetics of humanity.
Quite frankly, but we could entertain all kinds of concepts in this regard.
What I want to do is not lose this train, though, just for a second to do with Argentina.
Because we're talking about the past, but actually you should also be focusing on the current situation on the planet because right now the Bushes have bought a lot of land in Paraguay, as you may know, and they are definitely involved with the Nazis and always have been.
And there's very good evidence that there are underground bases in Argentina and Paraguay and all of that area that they may...
Be using as escape routes right now to get out of the United States if and when this whole sort of economic thing implodes.
Have you heard that?
Well, hey, Kerry, you have to go back.
They've got to have a place to go because George Herbert Walker Bush told that old White House reporter, the lady that finally got fired, the one that I was always standing up.
Helen Thomas.
Yeah, Helen Thomas.
He told her back in the late 90s, and I checked this out.
She did publish this in her newsletter.
He said, if the American people ever find out what we've done to them, they'll chase us down the street and hang us.
So they've got to have a place to go, but hey, I figure that down there just building a big housing development, and I guess they'll call it Borman Acres.
What I understand about the Paraguay thing, Kerry, is that we have been using our satellite capacity to do images of geographical strata and to identify mineral and oil deposits, and that what they found in Paraguay is the world's largest reserve of natural gas, so that Bush used his inside information to take advantage of it and to buy it up.
That's my take on the Paraguay thing.
Argentina and all that, of course, is another matter.
Don't forget that Mussolini, who we credit with the term fascism, because that's based on his black-shirted fascism, he once said that fascism is not the correct term.
The more correct term is corporatism.
And I submit, I think that's what we see happening right now.
Mike, what do you think about the idea that after the war, because of the vast amounts of money That the Nazis had access to, that there was kind of a mutual standoff, but mutual beneficial relationship worked out with the money powers, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, but that now there is some friction, some schisms taking place among this.
It's not a monolithic thing anymore.
I don't think it is.
In chapter 3 of the book, I lay the proposition that really there are two rival Illuminatis.
The Rockefellers are fascists.
They're corporate people.
They would see everyone in slavery in a corporation and work for the corporation or maybe be cannon fodder in a war versus the Rothschilds, which are more sex-obsessed.
They're more into, let's party, let's have a good time, let's hug a tree, be nice to the environment.
Oh, by the way, let's share the money with everybody we can.
I think there is a literal left-wing, right-wing Illuminati split.
They have a gentleman's agreement that when the other one is in charge, they don't throw the monkey wrench in the other's plan.
So that's why you see right now Obama is trying to sneak in some gun control.
He's in charge.
But whatever the plan is at the time, they defer to the other guy.
It's like an intramural football game scrimmage where the other side gets to be the red shirt and the other side gets to go on offense.
You see what I mean?
And I think that that is going on.
Just to pick up on Jim Marr's observation about corporatism or fascism, it's the merge of big government with big business.
It's typified by militarism and nationalism where the leader tends to be regarded as the embodiment of the state so that any of the criticism of the leader is treated as I think this was what we found with the W administration.
Now, another aspect of this thermal study of the geological strata and so forth is that I have been told One of the largest deposits of lithium in the world is in Afghanistan, and that's what we're really there for, that its value would exceed a trillion dollars.
And here's the interesting point.
These wars are costing us incredible sums, but it's coming out of other people's pockets.
In other words, the corporations don't care if the United States were to squander two trillion dollars.
In order for them to gain access of the lithium, because they aren't losing the two trillion, they're gaining the one that the lithium deposit represents.
Well, you know, Jim, where they throw us a curveball is by bringing in socialism, okay?
See, communism was an extreme form of socialism, and boy, they were the big enemies, okay?
And so what did they do to try to stop the spread of socialism?
Or communism, they created national socialism in Germany.
I mean, the Nazi Party, national socialist, okay?
And I submit to you that the Bushes, both George Herbert Walker and George W., His neocons, neoconservatives, that was just a pretty dumb title for national socialism.
And if you look at his record, that's what it was.
So when his national socialism began to be a little bit too obvious, then in 2008, they shifted us from national socialism to Obama's Marxist socialism.
Well, the fact is that social programs provided by the government to benefit the people are basically a good thing and very much in the spirit of the Constitution of advancing the general welfare.
the corruption of communism historically was its dissolution into despotism, where you had a tyrannical rule by the authoritarian government, and the problem is that's exactly where we've been going in the United States, we're having this tyrannical rule by the authoritarian government where we're having this tyrannical rule by the authoritarian government where the Republicans are, of course, the powerful representatives of the corporations, but where Obama is now making concessions that are contributing to the destruction of
Well, the problem is, our socialism today is that the money's not going to the people that deserve it, it's going to the corporations.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
It's corporate socialism.
Let me tie that back to Ian Fleming.
One of the things that people read when they read Ian Fleming is why did he stop talking about SMERSH, which is the KGB assassination bureau, and he started talking about Spectre because he saw the greater threat is from corporations and fine coming together.
Well, if Spectre represents this Nazi force, and if it's got to do with the Antarctic, then there really is a third entity, you know, in relation to the Cold War.
And so many of his books start to make a great deal more sense if you assume that there is this third entity that can fire missiles to precipitate world wars between the two superpowers, even though today, of course, we have only one.
Well, the thing is, we've got a situation where they know how to cover themselves up from the general public.
So what Ian Fleming is saying is, look for this supposed organization that's humanitarian.
like in Thunderball, he has a number two report in the conference room, the famous conference room, you first have to go through this humanitarian relief refugee organization.
Then once you get through the refugee organization, then you have an open door and an elevator taking you to the real headquarters.
Well, I mean, I'm sorry, but this sounds like the Rothschild side of things as well.
I think what he was maybe trying to say, Mike, and you can address this, Is that actually, even if the Nazis put on the good face, the good face is just as suspect as sort of the ones that have sort of the fist, which would be the Rockefellers, so to speak, so that neither side is to be trusted in reality.
Oh, I wouldn't trust either one.
I would just say if you have to choose between the two, choose the Rothschild to form a poison, you know, if you have to.
But the thing was that the Rothschild set up World War II. Greg will go into detail on that.
World War II Plan A was for the German experiment from the Rockefellers, financed by Wall Street.
To destroy itself with the Rothschild-instigated communist Stalinist regime.
Those two sides are supposed to destroy each other and make both Illuminatis rich.
Somewhere along the way, and I don't have the answer to this question, what made Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain promise to defend Poland?
Because all Poland had to do was say, hey, we don't like the Russians anymore than you do, Germany.
Have at it.
Mike, I've got the answer for you, okay?
Go ahead.
All right.
As you well know, and I don't think anybody here would argue with me, Adolf Hitler was an army intelligence agent who was recruited and put into the German Workers' Party and then funded by the Thule Gazelleschaft and rich financiers and industrialists to build up the Third Reich.
And part of the reason for that was to act as a bulwark, a block against the spread of Russian Communism.
Now, the question was, and basically comes back to your question, why did they then turn on Hitler?
And I'll tell you this, simply because of this.
When Hitler took over Germany in early 1933, the economy was still suffering from the Great Depression.
The money was no good.
Half the country was out of work.
Okay?
Within two years.
34 or 35 or certainly about 36 when they hosted the Berlin Olympics, Germany was the economic powerhouse of the world.
How did he do that?
He did not borrow money from the international bankers.
He created his own money through the German and Central Bank The Reich marks and he then created work projects, building up the military, building the Audubon and building projects, put everybody back to work and within two years he completely turned around the economic situation in Germany and the international bankers could not allow that to continue because people might figure out that when you Use Bank of England notes,
which are interest-paying notes, or Federal Reserve notes, that you're going to go bust because your debt is going to rise to a point where you can't pay it off, just like we are in this country today.
Isn't that amazing?
That's what happened.
And I'll tell you, there was only two United States presidents Who tried to do the same thing and issued their own non-debt-bearing money.
And that was Abraham Lincoln when he issued greenbacks to finance the war between the states.
And believe it or not, John F. Kennedy, who in June of 1963 issued United States Treasury notes that we didn't have to pay interest on.
And gang, I don't think it was some coincidence that both those presidents were shot in the head in public.
Right.
Absolutely.
But let's get to Norway, you guys, because isn't that what Tommy was saying and what someone wrote in named George, I forget his last name.
I sent it over to you, Greg Hallett, so I'd like to hear you respond to this.
Yeah, George Hilton.
Yeah.
He'd just been talking to the European Minister of Parliament and What I've got is, my pick is that this is to do with bombings that happened 10 hours ago in Norway.
My pick was Angela Merkel working with Mossad to prevent Norway from leaving the European Union as was the soon to be expressed wishes of Prime Minister Jen Stoltenberg.
The European Union is World War III, so it needs a bomb, and it provides its own bomb.
Blaming it on some newly named jihad group is just a huddled mentality.
Europe against the Muslims.
We must stick together against the new enemy.
The EU, which is World War III, is an economic attack on Europe, without the guns and the bombs, but against all the invisibles, like sovereignty, sovereignty, truth, and every pig's country's national bank.
Turned into a national debt.
The economic World War III, including the Zoslo bombing and the Itola Island shooting run simultaneously by a Norwegian in police uniform, is run from the German-centred European financial crisis dominated by Chancellor Angela Merkel, aka Hitler's sperm, frozen and reactivated, who is still fronting for the central bank, Rothschild's bank, and its offshoots.
So it's a big inside job.
Yet another one.
Yeah, well, we also have, you know, I don't know if we want to address this or if it even works in, but we also have the Queen of England and Obama making special trips to Ireland, who was trying, they were trying to wrap into this whole European Union and not,
and getting them to take on the debt, and basically doing some kind of rituals, which I would assume would be satanic rituals, in Ireland.
Yeah.
Carrie, wait.
I hate to break in here, but I did not realize this was going to be going this long, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to bow out.
But I really appreciate the chance to being with y'all, and I think this has been...
We need to do this more often, but after we get the technology smoothed out...
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, we've got some people hanging in with us, and I do appreciate you spending the time, Jim Mars.
And if you have any last words you want to wrap up with, that'd be nice.
Well, I think just because of what this program's all about, all I would say is forget about the whiz-bang James Bond movies, and particularly the more recent one where he's turned into an action figure, you know, and a kung fu master.
Go back and read Ian Fleming's books, and you will begin to have a whole new appreciation of what Ian Fleming was trying to tell us.
Thank you all.
Adios.
Thank you, Jim.
Okay, well, we can go for a little bit longer here, depending on everyone.
I know that...
Oh, shoot.
Okay.
Carrie, I got a treat for you about Norway. I got a treat for you about Norway.
Okay, hold on one second.
We're trying to get ourselves back up here.
We were thrown off when Jim hung up.
I'm going to hope that he doesn't pick up the line here so that we don't get thrown off again.
I think we can be heard.
I think everyone else is on.
Go ahead.
I think we're on line, Mike.
Okay, in Camelot, Project Camelot, those crazy people at Project Camelot, when I was doing my research, I uncovered this Norwegian government worker from Project Camelot, that's you guys, talking about underground bases being built in Norway.
So what I think is happening here is the monies that are being drained from these phony wars against Islamic terrorism, We're good to go.
Your Norwegian government source said that the workers down there had a shape of an E on their, I'm doing it with my fingers here, an E shape on their uniforms, right?
During the course of my research, I found the book called The James Bond Code by Philip Gardner.
And it just so happens that the symbol for E is one of the forces that keeps the entire universe together.
It's the decay rate of stars.
It's the rate that hydrogen converts to helium, and that number is.007.
So Jake Bond, 007, has got a cult meaning.
The Illuminati know.
007 is a supernatural number for the force of energy that keeps the entire universe warmed.
And I think that those workers down in Norway, when they're wearing the E symbol, they're really wearing the symbol for universal power, which I think they're getting from zero-point energy.
I think that zero-point energy is how...
You're asking about the attacks in Norway and Oslo?
Are you asking about the current attacks?
Well, we're discussing it at the moment and how it may be linked in with their...
I just wanted to explain.
I have a good friend in Sweden who called me about this.
He was very concerned about the attacks.
And he explained that, of course, Norway is a part of NATO. And therefore, the attack on Oslo is going to potentially produce a response from NATO, depending who they blame it on.
And when you have these false flag attacks, they can blame it on anyone they want.
A likely suspect, for example, might be Muammar Gaddafi, so that they can justify launching, you know, foot soldiers, a land attack in Libya.
But the shadowy enemy of being, you know, terrorists is perfect.
world because at any time they can have an attack by any source whatsoever that meets their political objectives and use it to justify whatever action they want.
And I strongly suspect that that's what's going on here.
Jim, I want to just add one thing.
Are you aware that a lot of the countries were pulling out of the Mideast when there was a breakdown they wanted out, they didn't want anything to do with Libya, and this comes at the exact time that people were bailing out on Libya?
That makes sense.
That the timing is to create a new sensational reason for staying in Libya, which is a complete disgrace that the United States is in Libya is completely disgusting.
There's one more reason I no longer have any faith whatsoever in Barack Obama.
Well, there's also Afghanistan, too, with long-term presence there.
Can I add something here?
Gaddafi's son is in New Zealand.
Okay, and what do you make of that, Greg?
Well, you know, we've sort of had the opportunity to go and see him, and neither we haven't or he hasn't.
But also, Colonel Gaddafi wears a fart suit.
Are you aware of that?
Wears a...
A what kind of suit?
A fart suit.
Fart.
F-A-T? Yeah, as in flatulence.
He wears a fart suit.
A fart suit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's got chronic flatulence.
Don't you know this?
Well, what do you make of it?
I mean, what do you say does it have significance?
Is there political or other significance beyond, you know, that he may have chronic flatulence, which is interesting, but there it is.
Something like June.
Thank you.
No, no, well, you've got to look at, you know, who makes the suit and who launders the suit, you know?
Well, I think, let's get back to the son being, Greg, what about the son being in New Zealand?
What's the significance of that?
I thought, basically, he would be in New Zealand, the idea would be to keep him alive, right?
Away from the bombing.
No, no, he's just here trying to do some deals with some intelligence agents.
I see.
Well, okay.
Mike, I have a question for you.
No one seems to want to hear the story about Gaddafi's fart suit, so I'll tell it later.
Mike, I got a question for you.
Well, I just, I'm not sure it stays on point here.
Well, this is on point, Mike.
In reading the book, I think you've outlined a very important struggle that there is a massive worldwide struggle between these two different divisions of the Illuminati, the American Nazi Rockefeller, Wall Street banksters, and the European money changers.
And my question is, what is the endgame?
What are they trying to do?
Is this going to lead to World War III? How far is this battle going to go?
You got Von Braun warning his assistant, Carol Rosen, you know, Carrie, you're all over this, that there would be different boogeyman they would employ, but after a while, it would not fear the people anymore.
The boogeyman effect wouldn't work.
So you had, you know, rogue nation states.
I think we've used that up.
Terrorism.
Then the next two are asteroids and then ETs.
So it could be that the boogeyman that they're going to go to next is, you know, extinction-level event fears, some kind of asteroid.
And so that's where the underground bases come in, that it's costly, of course, to build these dang things.
And the idea is that something like an asteroid hits the Earth and the Illuminati are underground deep.
They're going to survive.
Or worse, they're taking anti-gravity craft and they're going to pretend, the Independence Day scenario, that the aliens landed and we all better huddle together as mankind and surrender our rights as individuals to one world government so we can fight these evil aliens when really they're not even evil aliens.
They're just human beings that know how to masquerade as aliens.
But Mike, is there an endgame?
Is it possible that both these forces will combine together and turn on all the peoples of the world and maybe institute EMP attacks and blame them on sunspots as a massive problem?
Oh, they are working together.
That's why I tried to say it's an intramural struggle.
It's just that when one group is in charge, they do it in a right-wing kind of way.
When the other group is in charge, they do it in a left-wing kind of way.
You understand what I'm saying?
But they're still advancing the same agenda.
They're also going to turn on each other too.
What they've done is they've developed the technology to such a level that it's Old Testament fulfillment capable.
So now they're just going basically by the agenda of the Bible and fulfilling it as much as they can.
But they are all a cult organization and some of them have gone through the darker cult to try and get to the lighter cult.
Some of them are just straight darker cult.
But the intent of what now fronts nations is hidden in the cult organizations and what their agenda is.
So you really have to look at the relationship between the secret occult That's great,
the royal family.
Okay, you're saying Winston Churchill was the father of Queen Elizabeth?
Yes.
Okay, very interesting.
It's possible because he's definitely a prodigious man.
Okay, well, let me just throw this out.
WikiLeaks is saying that, you know, there's some WikiLeaks files that had come up to notice, I guess, saying that Norway's intelligence service had been criticized for its failure to keep track of terror cells, etc., It sort of sounds like they were trying to build a case to attack Norway, and I'm just curious whether there's a link-up between the blue spiral that appeared over Norway and now this situation.
What is it that Norway is either involved in or not involved in, and what are they trying to do with regard to Norway?
I can tell you that our witness Leo Zagami Who we interviewed in Norway was a heavy duty occult asset of the Vatican.
And that Norway is highly, highly involved in the very top echelons of secret societies.
Yeah, eyes wide shut sort of stuff.
Now, I've looked at the photos of the Norwegian bomb and it does not look like a bomb to me.
It looks like some sort of attack space weapon that's been projected down and created like a sound wave type of explosion and blown windows largely in with maybe a few minor incendiary devices creating fire.
So like a scalar weapon?
I think it's a scalar type of weapon, yeah.
Very interesting.
And it's not centered, you know what I mean?
It doesn't seem to have a center of the bomb explosion.
It just seems to be huge damage.
It's like another 7-7 in London.
It's a false flag operation.
And I do think that the cult's involved, and I do think that if you followed the occult trail to where the order came from, it came from Angela Merkel.
It seems like Norway is getting off the reservation, like Jim Mars talked about when Hitler got off the reservation by printing his own money.
When you deviate from their plans, there are repercussions.
That's what this seems like.
Norway is doing something good is what I mean.
Norway is maybe thinking about pulling out of the Afghan ongoing troop rotation down there, which is funding the Illuminati through drugs.
Or they're talking about pulling out of NATO completely, and that would weaken the thing on Gaddafi in Libya.
It seems like they're doing something morally sound, and they're getting their wrists slapped.
Well, you know, we can't go on all day and night on this.
I've got somebody who is...
Very few questions have come in here.
There's a couple questions in the chat.
And one thing I just wanted to say about Norway.
Go ahead.
My understanding is that Norway is one of the few European countries that has no major deficit.
They had a tremendous wealth that came from the North Sea oil.
I do not think they're connected with the IMF and I think there's a lot of hostility by the International Bankers Court Norway because they're so wealthy compared to the other European states.
Good point.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, we've got a couple people here in the chat and what I basically am, we are saying here is that the people in the chat are welcome to ask questions.
That is part of this advantage of listening to the live show.
So if you have a question, please put it in caps, and if you speakers wouldn't mind, let's allow a little bit of time here for the people to ask their questions.
One question here says that, to the best of your knowledge, is there a hidden technology the Nazis were working on?
That they took to the grave.
Who's their formal successor?
I mean, well, I think it goes without saying the Nazis haven't been succeeded by anybody because they're still around.
But you guys want to address those two questions?
Did they take some hidden technologies to the grave?
And what were they?
Do they have a formal successor?
Maybe a leader.
Maybe that's what they mean.
And my understanding is Bush is their leader.
Bush Sr.
I'll draw a diagram of it, and I gave it to Tommy, but it basically shows here's the age span of what I call the Third Reich Nazis, and then here's the age span of the Fourth Reich Nazis.
The critical question is around, you know, right here, around 60 years old, which would be around 1960, 1970, At some point, the torch has to get passed to the second-generation Nazis, the fourth-right Nazis.
So what I did was I looked at one corporation called the Siemens Corporation because, surprisingly, they're in favor of high-speed rail, which I think is a good idea.
And then I looked, and their chief operating officers are Germans who were born in 1958.
So somewhere, the Third Reich Nazis have to pass the torch to the newer generation.
And of course, they're obviously not as militaristic, because they're not wearing swastikers and doing nasty things like invading countries.
But maybe what they're doing is in a more subdued way, where they're instigating mayhem behind the scenes of a front of a corporation looking for speckers.
Okay, anyone else want to address that?
Well, I just add that you're going to have the normal kind of transmission of information about projects like this from father to son.
If their ages are staggered and their kids are at different ages, there's going to be a natural transmission.
It's a form of what's known as cultural evolution.
So I don't think there's any good reason to suppose that Projects they had would necessarily die with them, assuming that their successors, including their progeny, are still alive today.
There's another issue here, and that is Richard Boylan did an analysis of the shadow government, which I think I sent to you, Jim, and to Mike, but you have the whole military-industrial complex, the defense of the industry, and what has happened is, after World War II,
there's very good evidence that the Nazis brought over This technology became institutionalized in these large international corporations working out of Area 51, Dulce, New Mexico, all these various bases, Montauk, all these places.
And a lot of these corporations, EG&G and all these big corporations, took this technology and created ongoing programs which are above top secret.
Even the President of the United States at times has tried to find out about these and told you don't have proper security clearances.
So this has become a separate government in and of itself and Yeah, I think there's no doubt of that.
I would just like to interject that in my LNN conference that I had recently, Richard Hoagland was making the point that the Nazis went off-world That they, in fact, are running the secret space program and that they are actually in opposition to a secret space program that's been trying to operate from here,
from this Earth, but that the Nazis are actually operating from basically the moon and Mars and sort of running the solar system, so to speak.
I don't know if you guys have any information in that regard, but that's just Hoagland's premise.
I have to say that Camelot does have some background that would indicate he may be correct.
Well, Jim Mars might be the best one among us to deal with that.
I can say one thing about it.
I talked to one individual.
You know who he is, Jim.
He's involved in intelligence for years, and he also researched the underground bases with Michael Reconosuto on some of those people, Jim Basslow.
He told me that it was admitted to him that our government has anti-gravity craft, they can fly to the moon and back, and there are bases on the other side of the moon.
He did not say they were ours.
He just said that he was told by high-ranking people that they were there and that no one would believe him if he ever told, so don't waste your time.
Okay, we have some more questions here.
People would like to ask, hold on one second here, let me get the whole question.
It says, can the speakers please elaborate on specifics of mind control technology, machines that restructure your subconscious, how do they connect to a person?
This person is asking.
I can probably answer that, a little bit of work on it.
When you gather knowledge, whether it's sort of gravity, flying the planet or knowledge, it's good to work from both sides from a neutral point of view and not be too reactive.
Maybe the formula is attention, acceptance, acknowledgement.
And then you can actually be a carrier of information between the various organisations and then you can actually be one of the people who knows more or has the advanced knowledge on orbit.
When I was working on the reconstruction of the subconscious and President of the Scientist Club in St Petersburg, Adolf Zelensky, came down and stayed with me for a month.
He briefed me on gravity and anti-gravity and challenged me in order to understand anti-gravity to work out how to fly the planet.
I spent about four months on it and worked out how to fly the planet.
We have the technology now on Earth to actually fly the planet and move it vast distances and change its rotation around the sun and even move it to another solar system.
That's very interesting.
I thought that CERN was involved in a hidden technology that would be used to move the Earth out of this timeline and into another one.
Well, I think that's happening because in the 25,000 year cycle or 2,500 year cycle that we're about to end, it's called the Heavens Open.
And that's the timeframe we're moving into in about 2011-2012.
And I got that information from a guy called Tom Brown, who used to run Borderlands Science in America from 1985 to 1995, and he was actually building Tesla equipment.
And he's actually in New Zealand.
He comes into the office quite a bit.
He's in there yesterday.
So he's got a lot of the cutting-edge knowledge and always, always technology and philosophy and occult, which is secret knowledge, and secret spiritual knowledge as well, they're all linked hand in hand.
Yeah, so the reconstruction of the subconscious was interesting because we've been so deconstructed by archaic forms of religious teaching, which has generally been dogma, and then the Soviet state being totalitarian state was a classic example of deconstructing the subconscious and limiting it to the wishes of the nation.
And now what we've got is The Eastern Bloc thought that it was right and the Western Bloc thought that it was right.
And now from meeting, now that the walls come down, we can kind of see that both sides, the East and the West, have been deconstructed.
And the advantage of reconstructing the subconscious is that you can train your subconscious to think according to the goal.
As an individual have.
And then what happens from reconstructing the subconscious is that all events in your life that you find yourself in and are drawn to you are towards your long-term goal.
So the reconstruction of the subconscious turned out to be one of the most powerful tools to come out of the Cold War.
But if you'd like information on actual technology and mind control, is that what the question was?
Well, I guess that, yes, to some degree.
Okay, I can answer that.
Now, the only stuff I know is that I have a couple government documents that were shared with me, which I read.
I do know that intelligence agencies are using private contractors that spent billions of dollars the last ten years on psychotronics, which is using pulse beam, microwave, Wi-Fi, cell phone towers, Certain moods in the brain.
There's been rumors that they could actually insert thoughts.
I've seen no evidence of that, and I wouldn't doubt it unless I saw it.
But I do think they can...
I can confirm that they do that, and I'll be targeted at that too.
Okay, let me just finish this.
I do think that they...
I do know that they can entrain moods.
The other thing is I have talked to people that were mind-controlled, occult mind-controlled, which was similar to the basic stuff done by mentally involved, hallucinogenic drugs, various kinds of drugs.
They hook people up to IVs or give them injections so they can't pass out.
Normally, then they'll drive nails under their fingernails or cut them or whatever or give electric shock.
But usually, most people, if you increase the pain level to a certain degree, they'll pass out or they will die.
So then, if they don't die, they go into altered states.
It's called soul murder.
They try to murder their soul.
Their mind breaks off in different parts, and then they condition each part to be called out by certain code words.
That's classical conditioning that Menbeli was an expert in.
Our military took and used that.
If you go to see the movie Manchurian Panid at the second, the remake of it was That shows soldiers sitting in unison 30, 40 at a time having IV bags hooked up to them where they give them drug cocktails and then they condition them.
Now some of the mind control is electronic where they have a person hooked up to an IV bag anesthetized and then they put speakers over their ears and actually put electrodes on their head and do electrodes and magnetic stimulation.
Yeah, let me just, thanks a lot.
Another kind I'm going to say is I do know that I've been told that black ops when they go on missions that involve wet work, afterwards they usually are hooked up to a drug and hooked up to what's called a suitcase to erase their memory.
Yeah, this is common knowledge really out on the internet.
MKUltra declassified a lot of files and you can do a search for that.
We don't have time at the moment to go down all those roads, but thank you very much for that short sort of expose on that.
Greg, you wanted to say something right briefly if you want to add to that and then we'll go on to the next question just kind of to move this along.
About the size of a book is all you need for the equipment.
It's called the reconstruction of the subconscious.
In Hitler's time, it was like in 1912, it was nine and a half months.
and then by 2002 it was 10 hours.
I don't know if you've got a shaman who's super quick at it, and that's what they do.
You can do it in about five minutes.
Generally now it's probably down to about an hour and a half, I'd say.
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if TSA is busy doing that to some of the people going through the airports as well.
I mean, you really can't put a plasm at this moment.
It's easy for them to implant thoughts.
It's not even a second thought for them at this moment.
So lastly, you know, we actually are going to have to wrap this up.
We have one more question I'll take here, which is, would any guests care to comment on the White Hats and the global settlements issue?
Are you familiar with the White Hats?
They've been putting out reports and they're talking about the global settlements.
They're talking about basically funds being released that are owed and that are supposed to then re-put money back into the system.
There's money being owed to people like Leawanta, if you know the Leawanta story, Falcone...
Okay, you're laughing, but the person...
You're talking about Benjamin Fulford?
I'm sorry.
Well, no, it doesn't have to do with Fulford.
There's actually a website out there, and I've released a lot of their communiques.
They are a group of white hats.
They're a legitimate group of cross-agency individuals that are earnestly working to get the release of what they call the global settlements.
They are involved in the financial situation in America, but it goes worldwide.
It's not really a laughing matter, but I do understand, Greg, where you may be skeptical as to whether they're going to have any effect, but this is something that they are working towards, and I do encourage you to look at their site.
I'm taking it from your reaction that you don't know anything about any of this, right?
No, I'm sorry.
I was just having technical difficulties.
I've only just got back on.
Sorry about that.
Okay.
Not sure if it's on or not.
And I just got a flash email, so sorry.
Do you have a reaction to that question?
Any answer to the question?
Okay, I guess not.
No, I think a little bit.
The James Bond, Mike Sparks, James Bond is Israel.
Okay.
Okay, well then, at this moment, I guess we'll...
You've got a distraction email.
Someone sent you a distraction email just to wind the energy down.
Okay, fine.
The Illuminati do not want, you know, the balancing of the spreadsheets of anything.
One of their overarching goals is to bring everybody into a slavery state so everyone's in low-income, no one in the middle-class income bracket where they can question what City Hall is doing.
That's one of the main goals that both Illuminati have is depopulate the world, destroy the Constitution, and the individual can make a difference, maximize their profits.
And then the last one is a very subtle one is don't blame me.
If you get everybody on the same sheet of music, one world government, if they're wrong and Lucifer isn't their guy, they can just say, hey, Nuremberg defense.
I was just doing what everyone else was doing.
So those are the main four goals of the Illuminati.
Either one.
I had some technical difficulties, so I've only got a little bit of what you're on about.
I know you don't believe what I've said before on radio.
I got into the Ivy League CIA esoteric section in about two days from Boston, and one of the things we worked on was reincarnation, and a lot of the American spotting of reincarnation can It came through medical and education, including spotting primary schools.
And one of the views is that Helen Clark is the reincarnation of Hitler, or one of Hitler's body doubles.
Helen Clark now was Prime Minister of New Zealand, and now she's 3IC of the United Nations, and she's in charge of renaming everyone's status, not a citizen of a country, but as a resident of wherever they are, and resident of the same status as slave.
Yeah, no, actually, Greg, I think a lot of what you said makes perfect sense.
On the contrary, I do think that your research is absolutely stellar, and I I have welcomed your input in this conference as well.
So at this moment, in light of the time we've been going for a while here, we should probably wrap up.
Let's see, Jim Mars is gone, but we've got Jim Viken, we've got Jim Feitzer, and we've got Greg Hallett and Mike Sparks.
Would each of you Spend a short couple sentences wrapping up a summation of your views of what we've discussed here and maybe some last comments.
Let's go around in a circle here and let's end up with Mike Sparks who...
Who basically was the inciting element for this whole...
I'll start first.
I would say that when I first heard about Mike's hypothesis, I thought, I don't know, that's really stretching it.
And I thought James Bond was a wimp.
And when I started reading it, and the more I read it, I thought, this guy has really discovered something, or this is revolutionary.
I actually was kind of in shock from it.
And I think when this book takes hold, I agree with Jim that Mike Sparks' thesis on his face seemed highly implausible,
but when you dig into it and discover how much substantiation he's provided, I believe the impact here is potentially profound because it really forces us to reconsider the extent to which we have had an adequate understanding of World War II and the aftermath where Ian Fleming was the real deal,
it would appear, who was the very source of inspiration for his writing so that he knew up close and personal the feats he was attributing to his mythical hero, James Bond.
Well, I actually use James Bond as real already as a reference and I think that Ian Fleming had the highest contacts including Morton and Winston Churchill and I think that Ian Fleming was one of the few people who was not sexually compromised so he was one of the few people who was allowed to write the truth and he got outside the Secrets Act By
writing it as a fiction.
And I think we should look at fictional adventure books written by people like Ian Fleming and fictional adventure movies like Avatar as being fronts for reality and the fictionists to cover to get it out to the masses of people.
Yeah, I agree with that.
That's for sure.
Okay, so is that kind of, do you want to go to Mike Sparks at this point?
Go to Mike.
What I would say, Terry, here is that we've got a new concept here of writing called techno-history.
The book I've written, I like to think of as a techno-thriller, but it's the idea that there's a hidden reality that the writer can't just speak clearly, you know, just outwardly say it.
He's writing in metaphor and what he's doing is he's giving us insider knowledge.
We know about the revelation of the method concept where in Hollywood movies like The Peacemaker with George Clooney you'll see 911 in the elevator numbers or you'll see 911 in the airport.
The enemy in this case, the Illuminati, are doing it to us already.
They're dropping hints because apparently they're under some kind of compulsion that they must give advance warning.
Like if you sell somebody's house, it's in foreclosure.
You've got to put a notice in the newspaper.
This house is on sale, you know, to give people a fair chance.
So apparently evil is under some kind of compulsion that they have to give us some kind of advance warning.
If we're smart enough to see these advance warnings, we can spoil their actions.
We can spoil their attack by putting two and two together and saying, look, this is what they might be trying to do.
That takes the edge off the surprise effect.
We can destroy their surprise attacks by revealing them.
Now, of course, we can also say that you can end up crying wolf fact.
Well, the story goes that the boy cried wolf.
Twice.
And the third time, the wolf came.
So I would rather err on the side of crying wolf and say, hey, 2012, December 21st, nothing happened.
Good thing.
If we blew the whistle and took all their little angles and destroyed them having a surprise effect...
That's fine.
That's what we want.
And that's what Ian Fleming wants.
What Ian Fleming wanted us to do is read these books and say, wait a minute, this is real.
I need to be like James Bond.
I need to go out there and get to the bottom of this and then call the cavalry of the commandos in and stop it.
And that makes him a hero of mankind.
I think Ian Fleming is not only James Bond, he's a hero of mankind.
And I salute him.
He may have given his life up in order to make these warnings.
All right.
Especially if Alan Dulles murdered him.
It's a great piece of work, Mike.
I think we all found it fascinating, very stimulating, very provocative, and potentially mind-blowing.
Yeah, well, thank you, guys.
I really appreciate all of you taking part in this conference today.
I think this is groundbreaking.
Connections happening between not only you guys as researchers, but between some different areas of thought involving free energy and the Nazis, the role that Ian Fleming played during the war and where we are today, and the secrets and how secrets are revealed through fiction, I think is very, very valid.
Arthur C. Clarke was certainly on the same track.
In my view, revealing what he knew, and apparently he knew a great deal.
So with Ian Fleming and the James Bond stories, I think it's great that you've unearthed this, Mike, and I'd like to see a lot of success happen for your book.
Thank you everyone for taking part in this.
Let's continue this dialogue.
Maybe we can pick it up in the future again in this kind of a format.
Certainly it would be great to do an interview with each of you.
That was great, Carrie.
Thanks so much.
Thanks for having us.
All right.
You take care.
And this will be available to be streamed by the viewers from now on, so that'll be great, too.
All right.
Take care, you guys.
Thanks, Carrie.
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