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Oct. 23, 2013 - Project Camelot

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PROJECT CAMELOT: INTERVIEW WITH DOC BARHAM

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	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot TV, and we are live with Doc Barham.
	And I guess everyone can see us.
	Hopefully, we do have a chat that goes along with the live stream, just so you know.
	So anyone joining us can ask questions of Doc, and we will try to get to your questions sometime during this at least next hour or so, maybe in an hour and a half.
	Depending on how the conversation goes and how much we have to cover.
	I haven't talked to Doc in a while, and I know he has a lot to share.
	He was on my radio show a while back on Project Camelot Radio, which was...
	I think he was on American Freedom Radio.
	I think he might have been on Argusug, but it's on my website under Whistleblower Radio in case you...
	I would like to listen to the radio show interview that we did quite some time ago.
	At any rate, here's Doc Barham.
	He is a life coach and a Reiki master, I believe, and he has a lot of healing modalities at his disposal.
	He's also a remote viewer and been involved in the Monroe Institute some time back, if I remember correctly.
	So, Doc, why don't you take up the ball at this point and introduce yourself and give a little bit of your background and then we'll go from there.
	Sure.
	It's actually nice to be on with you again, Carrie.
	It has been a while, so I'm happy to be back.
	My business that most people know me by is called Coach Hollywood and essentially what I do is Personal and business advisory work with people, and it's people who are interested in sort of taking themselves to the next level.
	So you can sort of imagine yourself operating at your peak potential every day in all areas of your life, successfully and happily and easily.
	That's sort of what my work is about, is helping people to have that experience.
	I'm following their calling.
	My background in training is a number of different things, like you said.
	I've worked with the Monroe Institute, also worked with the Institute of HeartMath.
	I'm an NLP Master Practitioner, Clinical Hypnotherapist, Certified Master Coach, all kinds of different things like that.
	So we just sort of throw it all together in a blender and hopefully out comes some magic.
	That's what we really do.
	It's something that I really love to do, is see people be their best and be happy.
	Absolutely.
	And you have, well, you've connected us with some whistleblowers in the past, and I'd like to say that thank you for that, and I'm not going to name any names here, but just throw that out there.
	And what we are here to talk about, first of all, is this sort of very strange, I don't know if you want to call it a disease or a I've been calling it a nanotech thing, but I'm not even sure if that's correct.
	But do you want to go into that in some depth?
	Sure.
	I guess the background on that is in my job...
	What the clients expect of me is to help them get from where they are to who they want to be.
	So I'm a little bit by any means necessary.
	I want to find out what is generating the blocks and limitations in their life, either internally or externally.
	And in addition, what are the resources that the person needs or the organization needs to take them to We're good to go.
	Whose intent is to be comprehensive and find out at any one particular domain what's going on, what may be a block or limitation there, or what's a resource that they need.
	One of the things that I've noticed is that in working with clients consistently across the board, and bear in mind that these are people who already tend to be people who are already functioning at a fairly high level.
	These are CEOs of corporations, professional athletes, and things like that.
	But in the work, it was figuring out what do they need.
	One of the places that I found out that people had needs was in the physical domain.
	When we started taking a look at what's going on, a lot of people are really maxed out in their bandwidth mentally because they're so busy and they're stressed out, so they're kind of tapped out emotionally.
	When we started looking physically at what's going on, a lot of people are out of balance on the physical level.
	We started trying to find out what's causing this.
	What are all of the causes?
	And one of the things that we found out is that we were talking about one of them was that people have a lot of parasites.
	Now, if you go to talk to medical doctors, they will tend to talk to you and say that human beings don't have parasites and other animals do.
	It's not really a problem with human beings and things like that.
	It's not just parasites in the typical sense.
	What we begin to look at is what's going on in the body in terms of microbial life forms that aren't supporting human beings operating at their best potential.
	What are there in the way of...
	Fungus, bacteria, what's there in the way of parasites, these kinds of things.
	And as I began looking into it more deeply, we isolated and determined a number of those things, but also we began to start finding that there is evidence that there are human-engineered technologies, nanotechnologies, genetically modified organisms and things like that that are having an influence of people in an adverse manner.
	So that's sort of what we began to discover and then we started coming up with solutions and trying to find out what it was that we can give people so that they would be able to eliminate the things that are in their body that are causing them to lose energy, causing them to feel like their bandwidth is maxed out, to feel just not at the top of their game.
	And, for example, one of the things that we came across is, people can go look this up on YouTube, is there's some really interesting information about an organism that's been labeled Hidatoxylualba.
	And if you type that into YouTube, you'll find a few videos in there.
	That's one of the interesting organisms that we kind of came across.
	It's H-Y-D-A-T-O-X-I, and the second name is L-U-A-B-L-A, Hidotoxi Luolba.
	Apparently, this seems to be a genetically modified organism that may have been created by Monsanto.
	It's smaller than a human hair, it's a splice, and it actually looks like a little white nematode.
	And it's something that many individuals on the net and other people that I've talked to, sources, sort of inside sources, have said that there's a number of organisms like this that sort of exist in this space between, no, not exactly a living in the sense that we think of it, but not necessarily dead either.
	They're sort of in this weird space as being kind of alive but not.
	It sort of transcends our definitions of living organisms.
	In the case of the hydrotoxy wild bulb one, So far what I've been able to dig up is this seems to be a splice that is part nematode, part protein, part bacteria, and part actual cotton fiber.
	And this is the kind of thing that you can be in clothing, in the cotton fiber weave, and when it gets moist or hot, it will uncurl its tail from the cotton fiber weave and can actually then get into a person.
	There's a lot of these kinds of things that I'm beginning to find that I really didn't know much about before.
	I have a number of friends who are microbiologists, doctors, and things like that.
	I've been consulting them to find out, is this real?
	And they've been talking to me about that they have a number of clients who've been showing up that in live or dry blood cell analysis using very, very powerful microscopes like the one I'm thinking about is called the Ergonom.
	They're actually able to see that in people's blood samples they have a lot of these different kinds of parasites.
	So we've been coming up with interventions for eliminating them, and after the interventions what seems to happen is people seem more relaxed, less stressed out, they have more energy, they have more focus, they're happier, their sleep is better.
	In general, this is one of the things.
	Okay, so, and also, I mean, it requires them to cleanse their body, right?
	To go through cleansing, like, I think, you know, that's part of it.
	Is that right?
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	One of the things that I'm working with, I have a network of practitioners that I work with.
	If it's something that I'm not trained to do or am not the best person for, I simply refer to somebody in my network.
	For example, there's a colon hydrotherapist.
	Just a few of them that I know and one in particular that I work with regularly.
	And she's very good at what she does.
	So after people will take the antiparasitic, I'll have them go down to the colon hydrotherapist and get a colonic.
	And in the release, she can actually take a look at the feces and the material that's released.
	And she can confirm that there are, in fact, these parasites that tend to look like They can come in multiple colors, sort of red, blue, green, white, black, whatever.
	And they're very, very, very tiny, almost like, oftentimes they'll sort of look like a, almost like a brine shrimp, super, super tiny.
	Other times they seem to be more like strings, kind of like a long nematode.
	And in fact, originally when I sent some of my clients down there and followed up, She said, who are you sending me?
	Who are these people?
	And I said, why?
	And she said, because the stuff that they're releasing is, I've never seen anything like it before.
	And what I'd found out and that I didn't want a front loader beforehand.
	Just wanted to see what she discovered.
	And she said, well, whatever you're doing, it's working.
	It's really helping and it's making a difference.
	So we've been working for, I don't know, the past six months in this particular area and including that, if necessary, with the clients that we work with.
	One of the other things is after they do the cleanse, if they oxygenate the bowel, it will help to, you know, your body's like an ecology.
	It's just like planet Earth.
	And so if you take nuclear waste and you throw it into a lake, everything that would normally live there will die.
	And other organisms that can thrive there won't set up shop there.
	And the body's like that.
	And what's going on right now is that people are consuming so many things that are toxic for them on so many levels, but in such minute amounts.
	But the accumulative effect is that it's causing a lot of these effects like we're talking about, these side effects like being stressed out, not having energy, being maxed out, burnt out, getting ill more frequently, having a lot of emotional mood swings.
	And one of the things like we're talking about now, when parasites set up shop in your organs or in your gastrointestinal tract, part of the entire nervous system, it can really throw you off.
	You know, the gut brain, the second brain is a really, really important part.
	It's our survival brain.
	It's an important part of who we are and our health and longevity.
	So after the people have a colonic and they oxygenate the bowel, we'll also have them take detox, probiotics.
	That are really exceptional.
	The ones that I'm using now that I like very much are made by a friend of mine who owns a company called Ascended Health.
	And their detox and probiotic are the best I've ever come across.
	They're liquid and they make an enormous difference.
	And what happens is that after that, people set up a terrain in the bowel that flourishes and can help the people absorb nutrition and nutrients.
	And as a result of that, they don't eat as much.
	They don't have as much cravings.
	They're more focused and balanced.
	You know, a lot of ADD-ish type symptoms tend to go away.
	So these are some of the things that we're working on.
	Okay, yes.
	And I think it's very interesting just to get into the more sort of conspiracy facts of the situation, just to drill down a bit in that area.
	When we're talking about things that inhabit the cotton, I believe you said cotton.
	In other words, it's actually in the clothing that people are wearing.
	Is that correct?
	Well, it's difficult for me to confirm that other than the sources that I've talked to, which unfortunately I can't really reveal the sources because if I do, then they won't be sources anymore.
	But they are people who I've known for years and I do really trust them.
	And from what they've shared with me is that these sort of nano-organisms are much more prevalent than we have been aware of previously.
	And that they are things that are influencing us in ways that we're, you know, most of us are not really aware of.
	And so that when we become sick, we will tend to attribute it to things that may not be that, mistakenly so.
	These are things that are influencing us in ways that we're not aware, and they're part of what's causing us to get sick and to get diseased.
	And so there are, to the best of my understanding, nano-organisms, some of which might be in the clothing, others might be in food, and these sorts of things like that.
	Okay, and obviously...
	I'll be really careful in the way that I talk about it and be really honest about what I know and what I don't know.
	You know, I do know from...
	Here's one of the things that anybody can do is you can simply get yourself a dark field microscope or something like that which has the proper magnification and take a look at your blood and you'll start seeing some pretty interesting things.
	You know, a lot of people know about, you know, for example, Morgellons, and that's certainly a very, very real phenomenon that is a lot more widespread than most people are aware of.
	Okay, and there's also...
	Something that is an engineered organism.
	Right, and that involves the chemtrails as well.
	It seems that there may be a relationship between the chemtrails and the Morgellons.
	One of the things that I understand is that the nanotechnology actually has the capacity to be able to send and receive information.
	So there's actually, these nano-organisms have the ability to be retrieving information or collecting information and then sending information and then receiving, so actually collecting information about the individual and then transmitting it as well as receiving information from an external source and modifying their behavior and interactions with the individual.
	So we're talking mind control, really, and access into the organism.
	It seems like that people may be getting influenced in ways that they're unaware of, at a level that they're not consciously aware of.
	So, I mean, this is pretty serious, actually.
	I'm not sure how much of this is even out there.
	The idea that I mean, I know that certainly the Morgellons and the chemtrails information certainly is very much out there, but in terms of the idea that it may be not just causing disease, but actually making people, not only the breakdown of their immune system, but also making them vulnerable to mind control in ways that they don't realize.
	In other words, through diet, through the nanobots that may be in their bloodstream, etc.
	Isn't that right?
	Yeah, I think that there are so many ways to sort of define mind control that it's good to sort of talk about that across the board, like really define what is mind control and in ways that people may not even think of it as mind control.
	For example, something as straightforward as sitting in front of your television set and putting yourself into a hypnotic state, which is one of the things that I'm trained in as a clinical hypnotherapist.
	I used to work as a professional stage hypnotist as well many years ago, and I really understand trance and hypnosis very well.
	Any person who sits down in front of a television set For more than a few minutes, we'll automatically go into a hypnotic state.
	And when a person is in a hypnotic state, which by the way, hypnotic states, trances, are actually perfectly normal.
	They're a normal part of the human experience.
	They're not bad.
	They're part of being human.
	But when somebody goes and sits in front of a television set and puts themselves into a trance state, they become suggestible.
	And when they end up watching television or programming or they watch particularly commercials that are specifically designed to cause you to become conditioned at the subconscious level to buying patterns so that you associate a particular feeling with the purchase of a product, that could be considered very clearly a kind of mind control.
	And yet, on a certain level, it's something that we all participate in willingly.
	You know, if you ask 10 out of 10 people, does advertising work?
	10 out of 10 people will say, yes, just not on me.
	And that's an actual, if you go to Wikipedia and you look up what's called, you type in list of cognitive biases, you'll actually find that that is an actual human cognitive bias.
	People will tend to attribute things as having an effect but not include them in that set.
	They'll say, oh, well, you know, like in investing, there's a whole science of neuroeconomics and behavioral finance.
	And, you know, all the things that investors do, if you ask the average investor, they'll say, well, yeah, people do that, just not me.
	So, I mean, I think it's really important to see the sort of, the way that our culture and society is structured and the way that it's constantly feeding us messages about who we are and what our identity is, and that can be seen from one perspective or lens as a kind of mind control.
	Absolutely.
	People in Camelot will be familiar with what is called major media and the way that they sort of change people's view of the world and create it in such a way that certain things are ruled out,
	certain possibilities are In their own experience, things that they might have experienced themselves suddenly become unbelievable or unknowable or simply wrong and so on and so forth.
	So it's pretty pervasive.
	You know, there is a whole psychology behind advertising, as I'm sure you're aware, and there is a very famous doctor, I believe, from, I think,
	I'm not sure where he's from, maybe England or Germany, but at any rate, he's famous for the idea of putting out some of this Through advertising, changing people's minds and the way they think, and that it was intentionally put into advertising.
	In other words, it's very interesting to think about the idea that advertising or anything like that didn't have to start out as a mind control, but it actually became that because of some psychiatrists who were consulted on how to make it that way.
	So, it's really interesting that way.
	Yeah, I think what it is is that it's probably, you're probably right, it's one of those things where, you know, anyone in any job is always looking for how to do their job better.
	When somebody comes along and says, I can help you do your job better, and here's all you have to do, that person, if what they're saying, here's how you can do your job better, is something where you can really get inside somebody's head and begin to influence them in a subconscious way without their knowledge.
	That would be, for many people, considered an unethical thing to do.
	And when people, what we observe that they do is they think about their job security, and then they think, and their ethics many times will simply go by the wayside.
	Sorry, I was just...
	If you look at, for example...
	I've done an enormous amount of reading in the area of advertising and marketing and where there's a crossover between marketing and advertising and the operant principles of mind control.
	And it really boils down to persuasion and influence.
	It's basically technology that's based on how people work.
	So the technology itself is actually 100% neutral.
	What really determines the value or not is the intention of the user.
	A really good example is Milton Erickson.
	He was an absolutely visionary and a brilliant healer.
	He was a physician, an MD, and a psychiatrist.
	He was the head of the American Medical Association.
	He was the person who helped to get hypnotism or hypnosis or hypnotherapy recognized by mainstream, by the AMA, as something really beneficial, as efficacious and successful.
	In fact, more successful than therapy.
	In fact, there's been studies done about it that anybody can reference and find that the effectiveness of hypnosis in terms of the number of sessions and lasting results has been shown to be more effective than therapy in many, many, many cases.
	But here's a guy who literally pioneered a kind of hypnosis that's known as Ericksonian conversational hypnosis.
	And...
	Later on, what happened was that two guys, some people may know, Richard Bandler and John Grinder, when they were creating what's called Neuro Linguistic Programming.
	Most people will know Tony Robbins.
	He knows a lot about NLP. That's because he was trained by Bandler and Grinder.
	Tony Robbins is a guy out there, I think, who's really honestly trying to help people be better by having them get some control over their mind and body.
	Bandler and Grinder, when they were in the early throes of creating neurolinguistic programming, they went down to see Milton Erickson because they heard that he was really getting phenomenal results with people who, you know, nobody else could help.
	What I thought was that all language, all conversation is inherently hypnotic.
	And that every single person is all the time essentially attempting to persuade or influence another person.
	Whether it's to just get them to see what you're saying, you know, to understand you as an act of attempted influence or persuasion.
	So there's nothing wrong with that.
	It's something that 100% of us do.
	And there's nothing wrong with what Milton Erickson did.
	What he did was extraordinarily powerful and it healed a tremendous number of people.
	And there's tons of people who've learned Ericksonian conversational hypnosis like myself who use it every day to help people.
	At the same time, I know that the Ericksonian material that was available on the Erickson Foundation website, a lot of it's been pulled because a lot of people in a desire to have a competitive edge in marketing and advertising have gone and gotten that material and now applied it in their discipline.
	So you see it now showing up much more on internet websites, Internet information marketers are using the principles of Ericksonian conversational hypnosis.
	You see it showing up in television and radio commercials and things like that.
	And it seems to me that the way to go is not back but forward.
	And the way to go forward is to have people become educated.
	It's sort of like, you know, I can go watch a magic trick and I can enjoy it even if I know how the magic trick works.
	But the difference is, if I don't know how a magic trick works, I might think that that person's magical.
	But if I know how the magic trick works, I can go and enjoy the magic show, enjoy the play of magic.
	And I can also know how he does it, so I can enjoy it on a whole other level as well.
	But I'm not going to walk out and have a false belief that that person is actually a magical being.
	I can see it for what it is.
	Right.
	So I think the best way to deal with quote-unquote mind control is for people to become informed and educated so that when they quote-unquote have it done to them, when people apply these principles to them, they don't get freaked out or scared or they don't get angry or blaming.
	They just simply see it for what it is and they go, oh, okay.
	I think that's probably the healthiest response.
	Sure.
	Well, awareness also changes the game because when you become conscious of something, you become an active participant.
	And then at that point, you can block in various ways and deflect, if you will, those energies coming at you.
	And when you get individuals who are using them sort of more for the dark side or for personal gain, then you can mitigate that.
	And your protection, your self-sovereignty, your protection can kick into gear.
	So that's why becoming aware on every aspect of reality and every aspect of human and other being interaction is so vital simply for that purpose.
	Awareness changes everything.
	It's really hard to stop somebody from doing something through force.
	The easiest way to get somebody to stop doing something is for them to not get any result out of it anymore.
	When the person doesn't get any more value out of what they're doing, they will tend to drop it because it doesn't work for them anymore.
	So what I see right now is that people everywhere in droves are beginning to say, you know what?
	If you go down to a Ralph's grocery store, I'll actually do this with clients sometimes.
	And you take a look, anybody who goes down to a major chain like a Ralph's or a Vons or an Albertson or whatever...
	What you'll see is you will see almost 100% of the people in there have their shoulders slumped forward and their chest is caved in.
	Their head is leaning forward on their neck.
	Their skull is cocked downward like this.
	The eyes are kind of glazed over and defocused and they're pushing their cart and they're in this kind of shopping trance.
	And they're under this really harsh, fluorescent lights, and they look sickly, and they have a kind of pallor.
	And if you actually step back and look at the whole store, none of the people are interacting with one another.
	No one is smiling.
	No one is communicating.
	No one is connecting.
	Everyone's just sort of shopping in this zombie-like trance.
	It's really quite sad because if the people would simply snap out of their trance and turn to the person next to them, they could begin to have a conversation and they'd have a slightly more meaningful and fulfilling life.
	Whether you're over by the deli counter or the checkout line or in the aisles or wherever, you see this pervasively in any major chain grocery store.
	And I really do believe that you are what you eat.
	And so if what you eat is this processed food that's just horrible, filled with preservatives and additives and heavy metal toxins and things like that, it will completely compromise you as a being and you'll end up being kind of this shuffling zombie.
	Now what's interesting is less than a block away, somebody decided that they didn't want to do that anymore or participate in that or play that game anymore and they opened up another thing and it's Trader Joe's.
	Now, I'm not saying that the Trader Joe's is the pinnacle of things, but if you go over there and you walk into Trader Joe's, you'll see an entirely different culture.
	You'll see people who are looking younger.
	They look healthier.
	They look more vital.
	There's not all that many people who are really, really obese.
	You'll also see, if you look down the checkout counter line, people are talking.
	They're interacting, and they're smiling, and they're communicating.
	And it's really a stark contrast.
	And it's because, you know, over here at Trader Joe's, they're kind of vibrating at a totally different level.
	And there are people who just generally get that, you know, if I eat shit, I'm going to feel like shit.
	I'm going to think like shit.
	It's really simple.
	It's not complicated.
	And at Ralph's, there's people over there who still are engaging in kind of a magical thinking where they think they can put anything in their body that they want, and it won't have any adverse effect.
	And it's simply not true.
	And so what I tend to think is whatever you put into yourself is what eventually makes you who you are.
	Whether it's what you read or what you watch or what you listen to or what you eat.
	It's all a kind of information and energy that you put into you.
	So I think if we want to be happy, we need to be very mindful on all levels of what it is we're doing.
	Does that make sense?
	Absolutely.
	And couldn't agree with you more.
	Let's see.
	I also wanted to go in the direction of some of your background with the Monroe Institute.
	Do you want to talk about that?
	Sure.
	Let's see.
	Back in the mid-90s, the mid to late 90s, I think around 1997, I was at a certain place of development in my life, and I really wanted to know whether or not...
	Taylor de Chardon, the French Christian mystic, has a quote that I love that most people, I think, are familiar with these days, which is, you're not a human being trying to have a spiritual experience.
	You're a spiritual being having a human experience.
	And I remember when I first read that back in the mid-90s, that really appealed to me.
	Something just really strongly resonated about that phrase, like, wow, yeah, I get that.
	And so, in my mind at the time, my thinking was, where can I go get an out-of-body experience?
	Because if I have an out-of-body experience, I can prove that that's true.
	That was my thinking at the time.
	If I have an out-of-body experience, I'll know that I'm more than my physical body.
	So I remembered that I had read an article in Omni magazine.
	Many years before that, and I'd read about the Monroe Institute, and I grew up in the Washington, D.C. area, so I wasn't far from University of Virginia, which is where the Monroe Institute is located, outside of Lovingston in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
	And I read the article, the Omni article.
	And I thought, God, I've got to go to this place.
	And then I put the magazine aside and I forgot it for like 10 years.
	So when I started thinking about this again, I was living in San Francisco and I decided to go to the Monroe Institute thinking, well, this place, these people will help me have a conscious out-of-body experience and this will help get rid of all my existential angst.
	So long story short, I went and listened to the Binaural Beats.
	The HemiSync is their brand name, and it worked.
	I had a really powerful series of profound out-of-body experiences, and I remember it was really positively shattering.
	It left me weeping.
	It's really real.
	I really am a soul having a human experience.
	So I decided that I wanted to learn everything that I could.
	So I think I went to probably, I don't know, eight more programs after that.
	And I decided that what I wanted to do is I wanted to be a trainer.
	So I went through the training program and became what's called an outreach trainer for the Monroe Institute.
	And then later on, after completing that, I actually went to work for a major corporation as their chief learning officer.
	And for two years, my job was to actually...
	they had 600 employees and my job was to travel through the company and train the people in the Monroe Institute workshops, which is pretty fascinating because to actually see average people, you know, everyday which is pretty fascinating because to actually see average people, you know, everyday folks work with binaural beats and be able to have the kind of altered state experiences that You know, we read about them in books and we see them in movies and see them on TV shows,
	We watch heroes on NBC or whatever and we all magically think about having these superpowers or whatnot.
	But for average folks to be able to go in a workshop and have those kinds of experiences is profoundly life-altering in a positive way.
	So, along the way, I ended up meeting a lot of the guys who were remote viewers in the original programs at Fort Meade for the U.S. Army and got something of a relationship with some of those people and had lots of conversations and developed relationships over the years and really learned a lot about, I would say...
	The truth that you're a soul having a human experience.
	Also about the kind of involvement of the United States government and the military.
	Their desire to understand how they could use these kinds of technologies for military applications.
	In fact, what I've done is I've actually gone and created my own binaural bead company called Unisync.
	And I think that that technology is the kind of thing that what it does is it shortens the learning curve.
	I know at the Monroe Institute, they had some Buddhist monks come visit to do one of the five-day residential intensives.
	And at the end of it, Bob Monroe, while he was still alive, he said, you know, well, what do you think?
	And they said, wow, the kinds of experiences that these people can have in 40 hours is the kind of thing that takes our monks, you know, 10 to 15 years to be able to achieve through traditional means of meditation and things like that.
	So, again, it's a technology.
	It can be really beneficial.
	And it can also be used to mess with people.
	Exactly.
	It's always the intention of the user.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Uh, so...
	When I see, you know, it's like when I look out on the internet, one of the things that I'll see is, you know, I'll see a tremendous amount of people talk about binaural beats as if they actually know what they're talking about and then they are unscrupulous marketers and they sell garbage that doesn't work and doesn't do what it claims and it's just filled with hype.
	And then I see other people who get really freaked out and they start screaming that it's a digital drug or things like that, which is just nonsense.
	Um...
	And then occasionally there's people who really get that it can be very effective and very powerful for positive transformational experiences.
	I think most people don't realize it's harder to learn how to meditate now than ever in the past couple of thousand years.
	Because just from the standpoint of, say, getting pounded with electromagnetic frequencies every day, from, you know, phones and telephone lines, power lines, you know, cell towers and things like that, those things are things that your nervous system actually has to figure out what to do with it.
	It has to process that information.
	So meditation is a lot more difficult.
	Something like binaural beats or some of the technology that I've used with a company called New Tesla.
	Actually what it does is it's like training wheels.
	And it helps you to have the experience so that you can get it anchored in your mind and body so that you can eventually no longer need it and you can get back to that state and hold that state effectively.
	The way for people to really be able to transform themselves and grow and develop meditation is one of the single most important and powerful tools that they can use at their disposal.
	For sure.
	Well, I might not completely agree with it being harder than ever to meditate, although I hear you in terms of the adverse technological...
	Effects that are happening around everyone and can interfere.
	But at the same time, we also have a very unique situation going on on Earth right now in which the energies coming into the solar system are really facilitating meditation.
	So I think that there has been a transition happening in the last couple years, probably at the most, in which that trend is being sort of I would agree with you.
	I think that's a good point.
	I would agree that I know that in my work with my clients, one of the things that I've seen is that people are able to Move more rapidly in terms of growth and transformation and access states faster and deeper in the last few years, particularly than I've ever seen.
	So people able to tap into what we might think of as group consciousness or higher self or guidance or these kinds of things like that, absolutely, without a doubt.
	And what's particularly interesting is that clients that I work with who are sort of in their mid-30s or younger, they're just phenomenal at their abilities to be able to do that.
	Their awareness of subtle energies, subtle energetic bodies, subtle energetic system, them being able to literally work with things like chakras and the chakra system and meridians and see those things and feel those things and experience those things and and learn tools to be able to to be conscious in that body you know in that subtle body and to be able to work with it it's remarkable it's really uh
	It makes me happy to see that.
	So, aside from what we've covered so far, is there any particular area that you wanted to go into that we haven't covered yet and you were hoping to bring forward in this live stream talk that we're having?
	Well, I guess all the things that we talked about, I'm really glad that we've addressed them.
	Some of those things I would like to probably go into a little bit deeper.
	I think that people I think there's two things.
	People need to really know what's going on or have a really good idea of what's going on.
	That may include the sort of quote-unquote bad stuff as well.
	It's important.
	And yet, it's really important, and I think this is something that you guys are really doing more, is to then provide them, not leave them hanging there, but provide them with solutions.
	The next piece that's really critical is that you've got to wake people up to what's really going on and then provide them with a solution to how to deal with it.
	And so what I do find is that that movie The Matrix is a really good analogy.
	People are kind of living in a cultural matrix and a societal matrix where they're not really aware of all the things that are going on.
	They don't...
	For example, I think people have...
	Could have a much greater understanding of how incredibly deeply that they're being influenced on a daily basis by so much marketing and advertising and how it's shaping their mind in ways that they're really not aware of.
	It's just invisible to them.
	And the more that somebody turns those things off and steps away from them, you know, I mean, the average person watches something like 20 hours of television or more a week.
	And that's like basically, you know, paying a cable company to go, okay, mind control me for, I have a part-time job in mind control, you know.
	I think that's really the case.
	People sit down and they get all those memes shoved in their head.
	So I think a big piece that's important is for people to find alternative news and media sources and to feed themselves good news about what can I do about the bad news, so to speak.
	Absolutely.
	You know, this brings to mind when I visited you recently in your office.
	You were telling me, I think there's an interesting thing going on in terms of people sort of latching on to some things that they may consider positive, that may look and seem positive to the begin with.
	And yet, they may also be completely deceived as to the sort of other side or the mind controlling aspect of the very thing that they think they're doing to combat that, so to speak.
	And you brought out this mat or something that you put your feet on.
	I don't know.
	Do you know what I'm talking about?
	That was a certain technique that someone was shopping around and they're making a big deal of it.
	And maybe you can talk about that little analogy or whatever because I think it was a great, it was a very good story to try to sort of Let people start to be able to break down also the new age sort of mind control that's out there.
	Because a lot of people think that, oh, it's only mainstream.
	And in fact, it's not just mainstream.
	Yeah, I am the product that you're talking about is a it's a grounding pad and The idea behind the grounding pad there are a number of companies out there that that make grounding pads But the idea behind the grounding pad is actually a really great idea and it's this human beings are electromagnetic in nature they're electrical beings and We are literally evolved to be in contact with the earth and
	So we didn't evolve with shoes and we didn't evolve with concrete sidewalks.
	We evolved with a barefoot on naked ground or bare ground on grass or beach or soil or what have you.
	And there's over 1,400 nerve endings per square inch in the base of the foot.
	And there's a reason for that.
	The reason is that when the foot is on the ground, the earth is like a huge battery.
	contacts the earth and most people know this just from standing on the beach.
	They feel it.
	What do they feel?
	They feel real calm and really peaceful.
	Well there's actual science behind that and the simple explanation is this: the giant battery that is the earth, you couple with it and you begin to receive a flow of free electrons into your body which charges you like a battery.
	Every single thing that happens in your body happens partially as a result of electrical activity.
	So what happens with most people is we have, if you think about the last time the average person had actual skin contact with the earth.
	There are people who literally go for years with no contact with the earth.
	So the earthing product, the idea is this.
	If we can't get the person to go and put their feet in the grass for 30 minutes or whatever, what we can do is we can have them sit in the office while they're working or something like that and put their feet on a grounding pad.
	And what the grounding pad does is that in your socket, you've got the little face there with the three holes, right?
	The two eyes and then the mouth.
	Well, the mouth is the ground hole.
	And what the ground is, the ground is that you go down that tube.
	There's another tube, a copper tube.
	It runs down the building.
	Into the Earth.
	And it's driven into the Earth.
	And the copper is conducted.
	And the idea is that free electrons actually can travel the tube, the copper tube, and flow into the ground plug.
	And as they flow into the ground plug and in the line, it'll actually begin to allow you to receive free electrons by putting your feet on the earthing mat.
	It's actually a pretty neat idea, and it really does work.
	It's actually measurable.
	If you look up David Wolf and one of his longevity conferences, they took a video of people's blood before and after getting grounded.
	If you look at blood cells, the average person's blood cells look like they're all sort of clumped together, and they look really, really tired.
	And after about 45 minutes of grounding, it charges the person's battery, and you look at the blood cells, and they look real round and plump, and they're separated from one another.
	And that's because you actually need a certain level of melt voltage, at least 50 millivolts, to create new cells in your body.
	So you actually tend to look on the outside like your cells look on the inside.
	So the earthy technology itself, I think, is really great.
	The problem is, let me say it as briefly as possible, there's stuff in the power lines.
	And if there's information in the power lines, and if you put your feet on the grounding pad, and you don't have anything to screen out the information in the power lines, well, it's like plugging it right into your nervous system.
	Right.
	And that's really not what you want to do.
	So you don't want to sit there and have yourself literally directly programmed at the most basic level of all.
	That's just, so that's a thing where, you know, because of people's, they have a really positive intent, but they're unaware of this whole other piece.
	Right.
	And the solution to that is this.
	You want to ground it out in the earth.
	So you would go to the hardware store, get yourself like a six-foot long rod, and you would actually ground it out in the earth.
	Or what you would do is rather than grounding it in the socket, you would ground it, if you're going to do it indoors, on a plumbing pipe.
	So particularly if you go to your toilet, you'll find there's plumbing pipes in the You can run the ground.
	You attach it with a steel bracket there, and that way you won't be getting informationally programmed while you're getting electrically charged.
	That's the solution to it.
	But when I see these guys talking about having conferences with 300, 400 people at a time with their feet on grounding mats, and isn't it wonderful that we're all getting our bodies battery charged up electrically and stuff like that, and they're actually jacked into the 60 hertz grid, which is flowing with all kinds of information, and And I mean that, and I would simply ask anybody who doesn't believe me to actually go and check it out for themselves.
	There are meters that you can get, you can connect into the socket, you can run it through your computer, and you can go and actually hear the information yourself.
	But when I see conferences where people are doing this, I think, wow, they don't know what they're doing.
	They know part of what they're doing, but they don't know the other part of what's happening.
	Absolutely.
	Again, like you said, it's a well-meaning, well-intended, but don't have the whole story.
	And it's important for people to know that.
	And I'm not judging anyone.
	I'm just saying that, you know, do what you will with it now that you have the information, the additional information.
	This is something that you see in a lot of the New Age movements, where they...
	There's something that's called shadow.
	Carl Jung, I believe, coined the term.
	It's basically your repressed unconscious.
	Another way of saying it is it's the you you don't want to know about.
	It's the part of your personality that you don't like to admit you are.
	So what you'll see a lot of times in certain New Age groups, and you'll see this in just about any group because human beings have shadow and groups of beings have collective shadow, but oftentimes things that are basically immature will be mistranslated or misperceived as enlightened.
	Ken Wilber talks about this.
	You look up the pre-trans fallacy.
	What he's talking about is things that are infantile, that are pre-conscious, pre-egoic, those kinds of things are often mistaken as transpersonal, trans-egoic, enlightened experiences.
	A really simple example would be, look at the romantic poets.
	And it's like, oh, I want to be free and passionate and this kind of stuff like that.
	And it's okay for me to get ragingly drunk and screw my best friend's wife because I'm about passion, right?
	That would be a total, you know, that's some sort of an enlightened thing, you know, cut loose and it's okay.
	And the truth is, it's just really immature and infantile.
	Because it's not respecting boundaries, it's not ethical behavior, and you wouldn't want it done to you.
	So you'll see in new age groups oftentimes, I think the perfect example that I remember was...
	Being on the 405, and there was a woman...
	I was getting onto the 405, and there was a woman driving next to me.
	This is not too far from my office in Santa Monica.
	And as I got on the 405, she was driving a little VW Beetle Bug.
	She had a convertible, so the top was down, and she was wearing her Patagonia jacket, and she had her bumper sticker on the back.
	It was like, you know...
	Was it, you know, think globally, act locally, right?
	So she's got all this sort of green meme, environmentalists, you know, coexist bumper sticker and give you a good piece of chance and all this kind of stuff like that.
	And I'm coming up with my car and I'm just trying to get on the 405, just trying to merge.
	And I notice that she's driving next to me.
	She's kind of doing this, like trying to ignore that I exist, right?
	And I'm coming up and it's the only way I can get in.
	Like, hello?
	Can I get here?
	I'm not upset or anything like that at all.
	And she literally turns at me with this grimace, looks at me, and she goes, and turns and slams on the gas and tries to run me off the road.
	So, it was a really eye-opening experience.
	It was like, okay, well, apparently it's sort of, think globally, fuck you locally.
	And, uh...
	It was really shocking.
	There's a whole part of the sort of green meme movement that has this big fat shadow and it's that whole it's all good and the truth is it's not all good.
	It isn't all good.
	There's things that are going on that aren't good and they need to be talked about and they need to be called forth and held responsible and accountable.
	So...
	I think that...
	As individuals, part of our moral and ethical line of development is incumbent upon us to continue to grow and develop that.
	If we don't, it's easy for us to get lost and confused and think that something that is basically very, very infantile and immature is something that's...
	That's really like an attempt at merging or fusing with your mom kind of thing versus something that's transcendent, which is about transcending the ego and really continuing to evolve and grow.
	A perfect example is in the New Age movement, they talk about unity consciousness.
	Unity consciousness does not mean one as one.
	It does not mean one big undifferentiated blob.
	Unity consciousness is very simple.
	It means many acting in concert together as one.
	One functional whole.
	So it's not me merging with somebody in a really codependent, dysfunctional way.
	It's me being independent and autonomous and working together with you in an interdependent way.
	So that I support your individuality and your unique self and you support it in me as well.
	And that we then function together.
	And all we need to do is just take a look at the universe and that's exactly how the universe is.
	It's many, many, many, many, many, many functioning together as one.
	And so I think that's one of the shadow aspects or things that I see happening oftentimes in the New Age movement that's not discussed enough.
	Absolutely.
	It's not to judge it.
	It's to say, there's a lot of stuff I love about the New Age movement, and this is the stuff that needs to be brought out into the light and worked on and addressed.
	Okay.
	Now, Doc, we have some people that are starting to ask questions over here, so I'm wondering if you would mind if I ask you some of those questions that are in the chat?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	So, apparently, you know, some of these people are coming in at different times into the conversation.
	One of them is asking, And I think that they're talking about back when, in the beginning of the session, they wrote, how can they be diagnosed and gotten rid of?
	So I guess they're talking about the sort of nanoparticles and various organisms that people find living inside them.
	And so what is your recommendation in that regard?
	I think that there's a number of different ways that somebody can go about it.
	As far as medical doctors, I know that there's a lot of value in Western medicine.
	But what I've also found is that when people try to talk to medical doctors about these kinds of things in general, they're not trained in it.
	They don't know about it.
	It tends to be outside their purview.
	Believe it or not, I've actually had a lot more positive results talking to veterinarians.
	Who have no problem understanding it whatsoever, because dealing with parasites is simply something that a veterinarian gets trained in.
	So, in fact, when I first was told about one of the things that I could use as an intervention, which was an actual flukicide called Ivamec, Ivo, MEC, IvoMec Plus.
	When I was told that, you know, hey, you can take this, I thought, I'm like, what?
	I'm not going to take animal dewormer.
	And, right, I mean, I was just like, I thought it was nuts.
	But then I talked with a cattle rancher who'd been a rancher for 30 years, and I talked with a triple PhD, and I talked with a veterinarian of 30 years, and, in fact, when I talked with him, I said, hey, you know, Um, do you know where I can get, um, something to, to take this?
	And, uh, I said, can I get like a, you know, two milliliter dropper or a 2cc syringe, not to inject it in me, but to squirt it in some orange juice to drink this stuff, the IvoMec Plus.
	Um, he said, well, what do you want it for?
	You know, dog or cat, or what are you using it for?
	I said, I'm using it for Doc.
	And he said, what?
	I said, yeah.
	And we talked about it and he said, well, you know, now that you say that, it makes perfect sense.
	I can see how that could work.
	And in fact, he went off later on and his girlfriend took it and she removed a number of flukes.
	From her liver as a result of using it.
	Which, of course, when that showed up in the toilet, she was pretty freaked out about it.
	But it works.
	So that's one of the interventions.
	If somebody wants to find out, one of the scientific ways is to contact a lab.
	One of the ones that I deal with is doctor's data.
	You can find them online.
	And they can do some tests.
	Another way is to do live or dry blood cell analysis with someone who has a dark field microscope or gray field microscope is one possible way.
	Some people will talk about, you know, kinesiology testing.
	I think that that's helpful, but it needs to be done in conjunction with scientific testing as well.
	But There are other ways of doing anti-parasitic cleanses that involve nothing like Ivamec Plus.
	For example, my memory escapes me at the moment.
	It's a kind of herb.
	It'll come back to me in a minute.
	But that's something that you would take more over the course of a month that would act as an antiparasitic.
	This CYVA-BAC+ is something that somebody can take and it will work within, you know, 24 to 36 hours.
	And, um...
	Okay, um...
	...getting diagnosed for it.
	Would you say that any of this information is available on your website?
	Or can you recommend that somebody might get information somewhere?
	You know, for the people listening that perhaps might have questions in this area, is there any particular place they can go on the net?
	For example?
	Yeah, like I said, you can contact the people at Doctors Data and see what kind of work that they do.
	I know that they do stool sample, urine sample reports, like I said, live and dry blood cell analysis.
	If you Google that, plus your zip code, you can probably find a practitioner in your area because we have people from listening all over the place.
	Five-drive blood cell analysis.
	Plus, you just literally type that in, then the plus sign, and then your zip code, and it'll bring up practitioners in your area.
	That's one way to do it.
	And give them a call and see what they say.
	If you wiki Ivermectin, I-V-E-R-M-E-C-T-I-N, that's one flukicide, and you'll see that there is a portion in that wiki entry that talks about human usage.
	You will also see that it says in there, don't use it.
	Human beings shouldn't use it.
	So I have a ton of people that I know.
	They're perfectly fine with it.
	If somebody chooses to, they do it by their own free will and by their own choice and take responsibility for it.
	But I do know that it works.
	Okay, and let me say just because, just for protecting our sort of rights here, that are you a licensed physician in any way?
	I am not a medical doctor.
	Okay.
	So I'm offering information and I'm not prescribing.
	Okay, so that's said very clearly here.
	Okay, someone is wanting to learn how to astral project and they are...
	I guess they're wondering if you're able to give an approach or suggest where they might do that.
	Sure.
	The first thing I would say is that in my opinion, in my experience, astral projection is a part of human experience and it's something that every single human being does every single night.
	You call it dreaming.
	What actually happens is that your soul doesn't need to sleep.
	There's no need because it's immortal so it doesn't get tired and your physical body does, your vehicle.
	Your car runs out of gas and needs to be refueled so you lie down and get some sleep.
	So one of the things that people can do, what I think is probably the easiest way to begin to have conscious out-of-body experiences is through learning lucid dreaming.
	And lucid dreaming is not particularly difficult.
	There are a number of products out there on the market.
	There's actually a really good book that's called Advanced Lucid Dreaming.
	Which will give you a number of different supplements to help facilitate lucid dreaming.
	And in the lucid dreaming state, as you become aware that you're dreaming, you can have the intention to...
	What you do is you check and see if you have exited.
	So what you'll experience is what's called bilocation.
	What that will mean is that you'll know that you're You'll sense and feel and know that you're in one place, depending upon who you talk to.
	They could call it the dream time or the astral plane.
	There's any number of names for it.
	But let's just say it's not dialed into physical reality.
	But by location, you'll have a sense of both.
	So you'll be getting information from your physical body so that you'll know that a portion of you is connected to your physical body.
	And at the same time, you'll be very clear that you're not there fully.
	You're actually bi-located.
	You're located elsewhere.
	In the lucid dreaming state, what I will do a lot of times is I'll be dreaming.
	I will awaken in the dream state, become aware that I'm in the dream state, and then will simply use my intention to project out of the physical body.
	Most times people will tend to come out through the top of the head, through the crown chakra, or the third eye chakra.
	But there's a number of different techniques for that.
	I think Robert Bruce's book called Astral Dynamics is an exceptionally good book, or Mastering Astral Travel I think is his other one.
	The Monroe Institute has some good products.
	I believe there's a website out there that's called Lucidology.com.
	People can Google that.
	I think those are some really good information.
	If anybody is...
	In my opinion, the fastest way to do this stuff is work with somebody who can do it well one-on-one.
	It's the best way because when you sit in the presence or you're working with an individual who's good at it, they can give you all the little itty-bitty unique details that you need in order to have results much faster.
	Reading out of a book or listening to a program can work.
	It just oftentimes takes more time and more effort.
	So the simplest way to have an out-of-body experience, I think, is through lucid dreaming.
	You can do it in a meditative state, but essentially what you learn to do is relax very deeply.
	And you get into what's called a mind awake, body asleep state.
	So your physical body will literally be asleep, but you will be awake in your mind.
	You'll have conscious awareness.
	At that point, what you do is you literally learn to be able to use your intention to project yourself to a position outside of your body.
	And there are a number of different techniques.
	One of the simple ones is lie there until your body falls asleep.
	And what it does is you imagine that you are literally pulling yourself up out of your body hand over hand on a rope.
	And what happens is that basically what you do is you kind of fool your mind and then you pop out of your body.
	People can say this is bullshit or nonsense or whatever.
	It's really not.
	You can set up experiments to actually prove it.
	The simple ones, take a deck of playing cards, pull a card out of the deck, don't look at it, tape it against the window in your bedroom so it's facing outward.
	When you have your out-of-body experience, go out, take a look at the card, remember it, come back, and then when you come out of it, go check it.
	Okay, very good.
	Someone else is asking where to buy grounding pads, and I'm assuming, I'm not sure that, you know, but if you want to respond to that question, go ahead.
	Sure.
	There's a gentleman by the name of Clint Ober.
	He has a really good book called Earthing.
	And if you Google earthing and grounding pads or grounding blankets, you can find their material.
	I don't remember what their web address is right off the top of my head, but earthing pad or earthing blanket...
	I'll actually see if I can find it real quick.
	You can find it on Amazon without a real problem.
	And they're inexpensive.
	The earthing pad is something, or earthing mat, that's what you put your feet on.
	There's an earthing mouse pad you put your hand on, which works as well.
	I thought that was a great idea.
	And then the earthing blanket, where what it does is it has metallic conductive threads that are woven into the blanket itself, and that will work.
	Again, when I said if you want to use it, my recommendation is to make sure that you ground it in the physical earth and not ground it in the socket.
	And when you say ground it, do these things come with plugs that go into the wall?
	I don't quite understand personally myself what you're talking about grounding.
	How does one ground something?
	Okay, so rounding is pretty straightforward.
	If you have an earthing pad or earthing blanket, there will be a clip, basically, and you will clip an electrically conductive cord that comes off of it, and it will end in a metal spike, like a tent peg.
	If you ever seen a tent peg?
	Okay.
	Only you want a nice long tent peg.
	And you can actually get those over at, you know, a hardware store.
	So Home Depot or something like that, you actually ask them for a galvanized steel grounding rod.
	And so what you do is you will connect the grounding rod to the cord, and maybe you'll have to run it through your window, outside your window, and just drive it into the earth.
	And that way you'll be able to do healthy grounding.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm assuming that these plugs that are attached to these things don't really stretch that far, though, right?
	No, no.
	They actually, you'll find that the stuff that the earthing products, the cords will be, you know, 30 feet or more.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	Well, that answers that.
	Okay.
	Now, just because I don't see any obvious questions here in the chat, Is there, again, you know, because I'm not sure if there's other things for us to cover here, Doc, or what else you might want to talk about,
	is there any particular areas that you've been sort of involved in lately or discoveries that you've made that you might want to share with people, be they related to your practice or even unrelated?
	Well sure, I mean if we have a little time and people are interested in it, I think that what's going on right now is that the planet is actually going through an awakening.
	And it's moving to the next level of wakefulness.
	And what that means is a transition.
	And transitions from one level to the next require a number of different things.
	One of them is that the person needs more energy.
	In order for a being to hold more consciousness, meaning to be more consciously aware, that person must have an equivalent amount of energy.
	So it's pretty simple.
	You'll notice that if you get really tired and exhausted, you probably don't do your best thinking or best relating or your best work.
	And that's because we have a low amount of energy.
	You'll also probably notice that when you have a full supply of energy, when your battery's at 100%, you don't really sweat very much.
	You know, you don't get upset by very many things.
	Things can go wrong, and it's okay.
	People can act like jerks, and you're alright with it.
	Your car breaks down, your tire goes flat, you get a ticket, whatever.
	Life happens.
	But you'll notice that when you have a full battery, you don't tend to be bothered by those things.
	You tend to think more resourcefully, feel more resourcefully, and act more resourcefully.
	You tend to engage the world in a better way.
	And at this point on our planet, the old top-down command and control structure is toppling.
	It's not working any longer.
	And, you know, we can look at corporations that are really trying hard to kind of maintain the old top-down command and control structure, and it's like a brontosaurus that needs to be taken out behind the barn and, you know, drained with a dull axe.
	It just, it's not working.
	And so what I do see is...
	I see a lot of younger businesses that I work with, where the companies are smaller, the companies are leaner, the people really get that they need to be a lifelong learner.
	And I think this is a critical thing, is that change is now accelerated to the point where you will have to learn your whole life.
	It's not the old days like my dad who was an attorney, got out of GW law school, became an attorney, and was an attorney up until he was 80.
	Those days are over.
	I'm already, for me, kind of on a third career, and I'm only 44.
	And so it isn't going to go back like it was.
	It's going to keep going.
	It'll get faster.
	And I think at this point in human history, week.
	We have a tendency to think that we can, as people, we can just keep it coming up with new external systems to solve the problems.
	But you can't solve an internal problem with an external solution.
	It doesn't matter how many gadgets or toys or technologies or whatever that you come up with.
	When you live in a world where change is so fast, Human beings, they don't want to adapt.
	They want to thrive.
	There's a big distinction between evolution and adaptation.
	adaptation is just trying to keep your head above water, right?
	All you're trying to do is adapt to the changing external environment and circumstances so you can just kind of hopefully just keep where you're at, just keep going, keep going.
	Well, that's called survival, and survival sucks.
	It feels a lot like survival.
	And so...
	I mean, that's like kind of how things are right now is we really want to look at how can we move from being in a space of a survival mentality and a survival life, how can we be in a space of constant conscious evolution so that we can thrive at the edge of chaos and not adapt but evolve?
	We can actually use what's going on with us, this world that's changing so rapidly, as a leverage point to something that facilitates our own evolution.
	Every single person is here.
	They're a unique being.
	And they're here for a purpose.
	And, you know, I would say if you don't know what makes you happy, you better figure it out.
	Because you're the only one who can make you happy.
	And there are certain things that I think right now at this point in time, internal adaptive skills that people really need to learn if they ever want to be happy.
	Does that make sense?
	Yes, absolutely.
	What I'd like you to do is give people a few pointers on what those adaptive skills what those sort of not just adaptive skills are but evolutionary skills and and within that what I'd like you to do also is and you did this on my radio show and I think a lot of people found a lot of value in it but talk to people also about how to protect themselves on a spiritual basis because I think a lot of people feel that they're
	under attack whether it be from various mind control devices etc but Also from beings, discarnate beings, etc.
	And so, some of the basic tools that you would give them.
	Okay, well, I guess what I would talk about first is go back to shadow.
	And if you think about your ego, every human being has an ego.
	What you think of as you, so what I think of as Doc, or what you think of as Carrie, that's our personality, that's our persona, that's our sort of frontal self.
	And we tend to identify with that, but we're way more than that.
	So that's this little tiny portion of the iceberg, just like less than 5%.
	And the portion of that that we are, that we don't like to admit that we are, That's what is often referred to as our shadow.
	And by the way, that can be both good parts about ourselves, which Carl Jung referred to as the gold in the shadow.
	That's your potential.
	But also, parts about yourself that maybe are not so pretty, not so nice, not so good.
	Right?
	If you and I go have lunch together, and you want me to meet a friend of yours, and that friend of yours is like, say, really anal retentive, and you're not anal retentive, and I am, but I don't think about myself.
	I like to think about myself as really laid back, and I'm an easygoing guy, but everybody except for me knows I'm completely anal retentive.
	If we go have lunch and your friend is anal retentive, behaves that way at lunch, it'll drive me crazy.
	I'll get really upset.
	I mean, you know, we'll finish lunch and we'll be driving home and you'll go, well, Doc, so what'd you think of my friend?
	And I'll be like, oh my God!
	How can you stand that person?
	They're so anal!
	Right?
	And you'll be like, because you're not anal, it won't really bother you all that much.
	You'll just be like, yeah, well, you know, he's a little bit uptight, but, you know, I've known him for 10 years.
	He's a nice guy.
	He's got a good heart and that's just sort of like his thing.
	And I'll be like, I can't, I don't know how you can take him.
	It drove me insane.
	I don't like that guy.
	Well, what's really going on?
	What's really going on is that's my shadow being mirrored back to me.
	Is that I actually, as a person, I'm, you know, what's actually going on is I'm anal attentive, but I don't think about myself that way.
	So what I do is I actually filter out that part of myself.
	I don't perceive it.
	It's on the other side of my self-boundary.
	So what a lot of people probably would really help is for them to wake up to the things that you don't like about other people you're probably going to find is on some level a part of you in your shadow.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	It's like when they do You know, one of the most fascinating studies I ever saw was when they brought a bunch of men in, and some were homophobic, and some weren't.
	And they put a plavismograph on their penis, which basically measures how aroused that you get, like an erection.
	And they showed them gay porn.
	And the thing that was really interesting is the guys who had the most arousal were the ones who were the most homophobic.
	They're also the ones who got the most upset.
	The most angry, who were the most bothered by it.
	Now, that's an example, like a really good, clear, extreme example of shadow.
	So what is it?
	Well, what happens is when somebody's a little boy in a situation like that, they get told it's wrong.
	But the fact is that if you're human and you look at sex, what does it cause you to think about?
	Sex!
	Right?
	I mean, if I watch Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom and I watch some animal documentary and I see lions having sex, it's going to make me think about sex because I'm watching sex.
	But that doesn't mean I'm into bestiality.
	Right?
	So, what happens in the case of homophobia is that the person thinks that It's not okay to think about sex in the context of if I'm watching men, and when they start thinking about sex and they start having a reaction to it,
	it upsets them because it makes them afraid that, oh, maybe I'm gay, and that's untenable, so I'm going to repress that, and then I'm angry about the fact that I'm afraid that that's a possibility, and so now I've got to express this anger, and what I do is what's called displacement, and I displace it out on a person in front of me, and I go, oh, It's those queers, they're wrong and they're bad and blah blah blah and then I go and say something or do something aggressive or angry or violent or what have you.
	Absolutely.
	We all tend to do this in some way, whether it's sexism or whether it's homophobia or whether it's racism or whatever it may be.
	We tend to do this a lot in our romantic relationships too.
	So I think that But one of the best ways you can protect yourself, believe it or not, is by learning how to clear and integrate your shadow.
	In fact, it's the only way that a being can evolve to a point where they can begin to transcend their ego.
	That's one of the things that you hear a lot in the New Age movement that is completely wrong.
	And that is that you're supposed to be egoless.
	And that is totally wrong.
	You will have an ego until the day you die.
	It's part of the way that you're made.
	It's not about being egoless.
	It's about transcending the ego.
	You actually need an ego in order to be able to survive.
	So what happens with a lot of people is when they get into this new age stuff and they think they're supposed to be egoless, it actually does more damage.
	Absolutely.
	You want a healthy, integrated ego.
	That means taking all the parts of yourself that you've abandoned and that you've rejected, right?
	And learning to accept those parts of yourself, integrate them, and do what's called growing them up or reparenting them.
	That kind of thing.
	And then, by the way, what happens as a result of that is all your potential can really come forth now.
	Because you'll usually find that your shadow is kind of blocking The goal, the potential that you have, which your potential as a being is your destiny.
	So the question is, how and when?
	If your potential is your destiny, the only question is, well, how am I going to unfold my potential?
	And how you do it is going to determine when.
	So whether you do it this lifetime or in a thousand lifetimes or whatever, That's what it comes down to.
	And I think that one of the crucial pieces for people to understand is that a lot of the boogeyman and a lot of the monsters and things that go bump in the night that they're scared of can actually be seen as shadow aspects.
	Okay.
	Well, yes.
	And no doubt about it.
	However, we also have some very real...
	Sort of service to self beings out there, be they human or otherwise.
	And I think that what you're getting at also is talking about, when you talk about ego, it's also necessary to go, what I would say is to go through the ego to transcendence.
	And that is in essence what you're saying.
	You actually use the ego to transcend the ego.
	Exactly.
	There's no other way to do it.
	And the other thing is, though, the boundaries issue of it.
	And I think that that's an important aspect that people out there could find value in, which is talking about the sovereignty of the individual.
	And that does relate to the ego and to being able to claim your sovereignty, to claim and establish your boundaries.
	And again, this is part of the New Age Doublethink that has sort of messed it up for a lot of people, made it twice as hard in some ways for them to actually make their way through the convoluted debris out there to find out who they really are is being,
	you know, confused by thinking they don't need to have Boundaries, because again, that oneness notion gets so distorted.
	And then the other thing is, in terms of sovereignty, thinking they're wrong from proclaiming their own sovereignty.
	Yeah, I think that you're right.
	I think that to sort of extend what I was talking about with shadow, one of the things you'll find is that The way that we are raised currently in this culture is generally to be codependent.
	And so what happens is that people are projecting their shadow onto each other and then learning inappropriately or incorrectly that they should be responsible for another person's feelings or things like that.
	That doesn't mean be considerate.
	It means we are learning inappropriately where our boundaries are, which means the end of me and the beginning of you.
	And that's what causes a tremendous amount of problems, not only in relationships with individuals, but in terms of energetic boundaries as well.
	So what I find is that people, as one example, people who experienced a lot of trauma growing up or abuse...
	It's not uncommon for them to have thin boundaries.
	There's an author by the name of Hartman who wrote a couple of awesome books on boundaries, and I would recommend those books by him, Boundaries in Mind.
	It's another good book for women I really like called Boundary Issues.
	We have a number of different boundaries.
	We have physical boundaries.
	We have psychic boundaries.
	We have mental boundaries.
	We have emotional boundaries.
	We have relational boundaries.
	These are all...
	What the human being does is create and recreate boundaries all the time.
	So the reason that I mention the shadow is it's so that you can begin to have clarity about what's yours and what's not yours.
	Because you are right that there are people who will try to impose upon your psychic boundaries energetically.
	But if you don't know what your shadow is and you're not working with your shadow and integrating your shadow, then you won't be clear about what is a true psychic imposition.
	You'll mistake one thing for another.
	I've worked on my own intuitive capacities for decades, and what I see a ton of the time when I go sit with a psychic or somebody like that, they're just channeling themselves.
	They're just channeling their shadow.
	They're not really connected up to something other than themselves, some aspect of themselves that they haven't even integrated.
	So that's why I think that it's so critical to do the shadow work and the shadow integration, because if you do have boundary violations that are occurring at a psychic level, you're much clearer about what it is.
	That, oh, well this actually is not me.
	This is somebody else impinging upon my sovereign individual space.
	And in those terms, what I find is that the actual psychic boundaries of the individual, as they do shadow work, those thin boundaries become thicker.
	Because they become thicker, they become healthier.
	Now, they don't become completely impermeable.
	They become what they should be, which is semi-permeable.
	Just like the cell has a boundary.
	If you have a cell that has no boundary at all, it's just this impenetrable thing, it'll be dead soon.
	If you have another cell and it has virtually no boundaries, it'll be overwhelmed by its environment and it'll collapse and it'll die.
	But if you have a cellular boundary that's intelligent, it's semi-permeable, it is discerning about letting good stuff in and keeping bad stuff out.
	And that's what we need to learn too as individuals and as a culture at whole, is how do we create and recreate boundaries so that we can maintain healthy relationships?
	Because that's a huge part of what's happening in this transition, is that we need to learn how to work together.
	And we're beginning to see this happen in social networks and social networking.
	People are beginning to learn how to work together.
	But I'd like to see something that's superior to, say, Facebook, which is pretty much it's me book.
	Facebook is all about me.
	Look at me.
	Look what I did.
	And I'd love to see something where people are collectively coming together and taking action and getting things done.
	What I see happen over and over again is that groups of people come together oftentimes, and because they don't know what shadow is, because they don't manage boundaries appropriately, people say things, they interpret things incorrectly, emotions run hot, and things blow apart.
	In order to be able to have groups come together as a stable system, that's what we're really talking about, people have to get clear about where they end and the other person begins.
	That's about knowing what your shadow is and knowing what your boundaries are.
	Also, the other thing which I think is really critical is communication skills.
	Because right now, in my company, I have a number of employees and some of them don't even live in the same city as me.
	Some of them actually live in the Philippines.
	And how do you maintain a meaningful relationship with a human being that is entirely digital or telephonic?
	And I think the only way to do that is through authenticity.
	Because I only have enough time to communicate with him a little bit each week.
	We can do it by email.
	We can do it by Skype.
	But I've never sat in his physical presence and felt him.
	I've never been able to look into his physical eyes.
	And how do I maintain that relationship?
	And it's because of developing communication skills so that I can communicate very authentically, very quickly to maintain the heartfelt, meaningful connection that is at the core of any long-lasting relationship.
	And so we're now going to see tribes, and we're already seeing it, we're seeing tribes of people come together that are completely remote from one another.
	And in order for those tribes to be able to function and to thrive, communication skills have to be better than ever before because the demands are different from ever before.
	We're not all going to be able to get in one room together.
	And if we do, it's a virtual room.
	Right.
	Well, I think there's also, you know, speaking in a sort of spiritual sense, time-space and space-time are beginning to cross over.
	And what that means is that in essence, you know, distance and time are truly an illusion.
	And ultimately, as we move into another, you know, the fourth and the fifth dimension, these things are beginning to bleed through because what we realize, and that's where I would say authenticity, as you're saying, is so important because Actually, the barriers are fewer than we realize.
	In fact, they're so few that people are beginning to perceive when someone is inauthentic much faster and even digitally.
	Yeah.
	I agree.
	It's really interesting, even in terms of marketing, what I've noticed on the internet, and this is what's decimated so much old-school business, is it used to all be what's called outbound marketing, and now there's so much inbound marketing, and it's become fascinating to watch where, all right, well, you want to be in my email inbox?
	I'm not going to let you get in there if you're going to be a BS artist or a con artist or full of hyperbole and hype and stuff like that.
	That's my personal space.
	It's part of my digital body, my virtual self.
	I'm going to have good boundaries around that and I'm going to filter you out into my spam.
	If you want to get into my email box, you better come with something authentic.
	That means you better bring value.
	If you don't bring value, I don't have time for you.
	And so I'm actually really happy to see this going on.
	So what's really amazing is that now, a lot of marketing, I have to provide a lot of value to you.
	So that means I have to prove that I'm the real deal up front.
	Otherwise, you're just going to spam and I'm toast.
	That's right.
	Some interesting feedback and feedforward loops that are happening systemically that are saying that we're going to live in a way that we're much more honest.
	And if you can't bring the value, then go somewhere else to someone who will play that game.
	So I'm really happy to see that showing up, and I think that it's critical to this next level of being global, because we are all connected, and quantum physics talks about the principle of non-locality, and there's even something from what I know from working with certain individuals, it's called kindling, the kindling effect.
	And in the Bible, the phrase would be, when two or more are gathered in my name.
	The kindling effect is when individuals get together with a shared intention, the sum is greater than the parts.
	Sure.
	Absolutely.
	If you ever get two people together who are intuitive, what you'll find is that both of them are like going, wow, I've never been this psychic before.
	This is awesome!
	It's because there's a kindling effect, right?
	You can try this if you ever have, you know, spoon bending parties are an example of that.
	And so what we're going to find is that in these virtual spaces we are really connected More than just digitally or telephonically, we are actually connected.
	And we're connected energetically, we're connected informationally, and we will need to be more aware than ever before because in order for those groups of people to come together and stay together, we will actually collectively have to create a structure that is stable Through time and space that is not necessarily using just physical boundaries and laws.
	Right.
	And also, in some funny way, there's also a sense that because the sort of telepathic qualities that people already have but haven't been using, there's something about the digital relationship, I would say, that heightens the telepathic...
	You know, interaction between people.
	And I think maybe people aren't necessarily admitting it to themselves, but what happens is they get a very strong feeling.
	And it works both ways because it can be misinterpreted if somebody isn't, you know, a clean vessel, so to speak.
	So that you may write an email and actually there's nothing in the email that would be offensive.
	And this is a fascinating thing that goes on.
	And then the other person will receive it and take great offense.
	And if you actually look at it, you can see...
	That's a perfect example of shadow and what's called projection.
	A perfect example is that something that we've done as a preventative measure to try to help attenuate our always-always projection that's going on is the emoticon.
	Right?
	I read what you wrote, and just to make sure that you don't project some wrong subtext on it, I'm going to put a smiley face, or I'm going to put a wink, or I'm going to put a thumbs up, or whatever it is, is because we can't hear the subtext in the vocal tonality of speech.
	So I totally agree with you, and...
	And that's another example, like you said, of by enhancing one's, becoming present to oneself, owning one's stuff, cleaning oneself up, clearing themselves up, that there's a lot less projection that goes on.
	And what happens is that relationships are deeper, they're more harmonious, and they're longer lasting.
	And what I see more and more is that the people that I'm connecting with more and more Have very, very crystal clear boundaries.
	They go, this is the game rules.
	Here's the rules that we want to play by.
	And either you're in or you're out.
	And if you don't play by the game rules, which have to do with things like respect, love, compassion, honesty, authenticity, self-mastery, then go play somewhere else.
	And there's nothing bad about that at all, because that's the only way that that game will be able to be played, is by people who can play that game.
	It's like playing football and inviting a soccer player onto the field.
	You can't play football when there's a soccer player running around.
	Well, yeah, and I would also say that one thing that I'm noticing as part of Camelot, because there are a lot of forums out there.
	I don't know if you visit forums, but I personally don't spend a whole lot of time on forums.
	I know there are a lot of people that do, and this becomes the social life of a lot of people.
	But what happens is that they spend a lot of time on forums Telling untruths, sometimes outright lying, whether it be about themselves or others, and pushing rumors around about people.
	And I think that there's also a need to sort of make a statement to people out there that you need to own and take responsibility for the kind of way you're treating people online just as you would In your everyday life.
	And there's something about hiding, where people think they're hiding, when in reality, the karma is just as real.
	You know, you're still messing with people.
	Very much so.
	I mean, you know, they have that phrase, netiquette, right?
	But I would actually say, you know, how about something like nethics, you know?
	Which is, you know, about what's ethical behavior online.
	And, you know, you wouldn't walk around in your normal daily life spewing lies and garbage.
	Because, you know, there's a quote, I'm paraphrasing from Martin Luther King, where he said that character is what a man does when nobody's looking.
	And you'd be pretty invisible on the internet.
	And so it really shows what people's true character is about.
	And it's pretty easy to fudge things.
	And to embellish and to outright lie or things like that.
	And then what I would ask, you know, I'm given to temptation just like anybody else.
	And when that temptation comes up is when I'm triggered and I'm emotional.
	And that's when I make a choice not to fire off some sort of flame, but to step away from the computer until cooler heads prevail.
	Because you really want to get that inside somewhere, what is it about me that's causing me to want to behave that way?
	What is it about me?
	Not as it, what is it about you?
	Because you may be doing something, but first, what is it about me?
	Let me handle that first.
	Once I've handled that first, then I'll be able to be clear to think objectively about how I want to deal with that.
	And that comes with growth and development and maturity.
	I can't wait for the day when maturity becomes cool.
	We have a culture that worships immaturity and infantilism and youth and doesn't actually have reverence for the really hard work that goes into becoming an adult, an actual mature being.
	And what it takes to do that.
	And, you know, getting out there, and I'm always shocked when I go to YouTube and I see the kind of dribble that is...
	Yeah, sad.
	...always there.
	And there's such a tremendous resource for connection, connectivity, relationship, networking, and yet people feel like it's okay to pollute that space.
	And it's too bad.
	Yeah, it is.
	And just from a...
	It doesn't take...
	You don't have to be the Buddha to sit down and simply realize.
	You just open your eyes and look and see.
	Everything is connected.
	Period.
	End of story.
	And there's a reason that the golden rule has persisted.
	Because what goes around does come around.
	That's the law when everything's connected.
	Absolutely.
	It's like if you take a spider web and you pluck it, what do you see happen?
	The entire web has reverberations.
	And it's the same way for us as well.
	And sure, you can go ahead and tell a lie, but you also should consider, what's it doing to you inside?
	What's the consequences for you?
	How is it causing you to divide yourself, to split yourself, to make yourself uncomfortable and ill at ease?
	Because anytime that someone is out of integrity, they are engaging in things like dishonesty, deceit, lies, things like that, and the effects are global.
	The effects are you and everything else.
	Absolutely.
	All somebody needs to do is sit down and be with that.
	Not mentally, you know, intellectually cognize it as a neat bit of information, but really sit down and look at what is the result of my actions when I am someone who is very, very honest with, you know, in a 360 degree fashion.
	That means I call myself on my own stuff.
	I'm accountable and I'm responsible for when I do good stuff and not so good stuff.
	What I find is that my relationships are a lot better.
	People tend to be a lot more forgiving, a lot more compassionate.
	They trust me more.
	They don't worry about me being perfect.
	They know I'm not because I'm the first person that goes, I ain't perfect.
	But what they do is they trust me that I'm my word.
	They can deal with me being imperfect when I'm my word.
	And that allows us...
	Misunderstanding and disagreement is going to happen.
	It's part of life.
	It's not about whether it's going to happen or not.
	It's about what are you going to do when it happens.
	What you're going to do is be open and honest.
	Sorry, Doc.
	We are running out of time here, so I just wanted to quickly...
	Ask you to give out your website and any other brief information about possibly, you know, maybe what you're doing in the future, anything you would like to last-minute words to say here about what you're doing and what you might have planned.
	Sure.
	I appreciate the opportunity to mention that.
	If people are interested in working with me, either as an individual or as a group, like an organization, I work with individuals one-on-one.
	I also work with organizations and companies.
	And what I work on is transformation at the individual and the group level.
	And for those people who are interested in participating in that, I would say, you know, really, you know, be honest, serious inquiries only.
	And if you are interested, you can contact me.
	You can go to CoachHollywood.com.
	And you can call the number.
	That's 310-883-3994.
	Or you can email the person who runs my office, Aviva.
	And her email is on that website.
	It's aviva at coachhollywood.com.
	And the kind of things that I'm doing right now is I'm working on a web project which is devoted to everything we've been talking about.
	Which is helping people to tap into their potential and unfold their unique self and then bring forth their calling into the world.
	And what that means is so that who I am and what I do are in alignment so that who I am is an expression of me.
	And there's so many people who are really waking up to that.
	They're like, man, I'm sick of having this meaningless job.
	I want to be me in the world.
	Express me.
	And then having those people come together in a meaningful and productive way to create massive change on the planet.
	Not talk about it, right?
	Not just have another conversation about it, but to actually come together in a real way, in a heartfelt way, so that head, heart, and hand are in alignment and have those people connect and self-organize and begin to make a difference because you can't wait for someone else to do it.
	You can't wait for somebody else to do the job for it.
	You have to do it and find other people to get it too.
	And then you've got to get together, create projects, and you've got to start making it happen.
	And that's one of the web projects that I'm involved in right now with the expressed intent of reaching 100 million people.
	So that will be coming in the next several months.
	And then, of course, for those people who are interested, the consulting business that I have, people who are more interested in the business end of things, I have a consulting business that's called Extraordinary Outcomes.
	I work with Dr.
	Mark Goulston, who's an empty and a psychiatrist, and we do business consulting.
	And so people can read my blogs on Business Insider or on Fast Company or Or Psychology Today or any of those blogs like that.
	So those are two different ways that people...
	It's extraordinary without an E. So it's extraordinaryoutcomes.com.
	Either one of those.
	And then, of course, the last thing is the Unisync product, which is something that I'm rolling out.
	I've been working on for the last several months as a line of product to help people have a tool to unfold their potential and their unique self.
	So those are some of the things I'm working on, and I look forward to hearing from people.

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