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May 25, 2010 - Project Camelot
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Project Camelot interviews John Urwin: The Machine
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The New York Times of the United States of America is a production of the United States of America.
The other day I interviewed John Irwin.
He's a fascinating guy.
He's got a special technique that he was trained on in a matter of hours by an off-world civilization.
And he's going to tell you about that, how it came about.
and this was in the early 50s, he was a special operative for the British government at a time before the New World Order was put into place.
And he was part of a group of 16 that were covertly integrated into the military.
They were completely nondescript people without backgrounds that were given the special training that changed them for their lives.
And allowed to go on special operations during the time they were part of the military.
They would slip in and out and go unnoticed.
They have a technique called the machine, which is to this day apparently not able to be deciphered or figured out by even the highest levels of the military in various countries.
He's now being sought after after having written his book and published it.
I encourage you to listen to the interview.
It's a fascinating study as well as a revealing bit of information about a covert operation that happened back in the 50s in order to prevent the New World Order from ever becoming a reality.
What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to get the people who want to fight against us to train and ride.
There's some big disasters on the way and people have to be prepared for that.
They have to be trained in the right way for it.
Going out and buying guns here and learning to shoot a target is not going to get you anywhere.
It's not going to get you anywhere.
Because the fear is the sum of the rock.
If you don't know when to pull a gun, if you haven't got the goods to pull the trigger, and if the violence around you affects you in any way, you're no good in the battlefield.
Sorry, I've got a documented proof that...
and photographs to prove that they've been here and that these people are supposed to be the elite, the best so if they could get what I've got elsewhere that's exactly what they would do it's always that they can't and that's why they come here and they've offered me a certain amount of money and I won't give them it and what they're trying to do is they don't want me to be recognised in any way shape or form they're just keeping me down What
I'm trying to say, when I went to the health pad, there was about 13 people there, one of them was the head instructor, and they put us on various tests, meaning a few of my labs, my instructors.
And like you said, it just blew their socks off.
They couldn't believe that this was around, and they've never even seen it before.
So ever since then, they've been trying to get these skills, they've offered various sums of money, And all I wanted was some recognition, but it wouldn't give us it.
It wouldn't do that at all.
And Alan, he was, he just, he texted me two years ago, saying he meets the singers again, and he's going to give me a ring the next few years.
Okay, what, where is this, the SAS? Special Air Services.
You've seen your website, have you?
Your website?
Yeah.
It's ucsdefense.com.
Oh, right.
Okay.
I saw it very briefly, but I didn't actually, you know, I saw that you teach.
You're teaching.
Well, if you look at the photograph that's on there, it was a group of us together.
Yes.
The tall guy up the back.
He's retired from the SES just before Christmas and he's the highest decorated officer in the SES. Now he's in my club on that photograph.
I see.
So obviously the question you've got to see is why is he there?
Why does he come down to my club?
Like I said, I've got documented proof that that's exactly what they're after.
So these people don't come after something that they can get anywhere else.
It's obviously not available for these people, and they're prepared to give me quite a few thousand pounds.
But what they wanted was the sewer rights of what we call the machine.
I don't think you're aware of these people, are you?
Yes, yes?
Not, you know, because I'm an American, you know, not offhand.
It's not something that I know that much about.
I see that they're special operations.
Oh, yeah.
You're supposed to be the best in the world.
Okay.
Very interesting.
So, but if this guy, you say you, you know, this guy trained with you, or...
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He came up.
They keep putting us to the test.
He wanted to find out more about the training.
He wanted to find out more about the free elimination program.
You wanted to find out how that was done.
Because we proved to them that the fear elimination program had been done to me.
And then as the, like you said, to train in these skills, Kerry, it would normally take you months where I learned it in four days, but I wasn't aware of it.
Do you understand that?
Really?
Yeah, I was totally unaware of this.
What they're going to do is they're going to, like the guy who does hypnosis, he closes down your conscious brain and then he gets the subconscious brain to do something that you're unaware of.
Well, that's what they do, they close down your conscious brain and they program the subconscious to take these skills on board.
And I'll learn these skills in four days.
Wow.
Where it would normally take you months.
Now this is not martial arts, Carrie.
Okay.
This is far superior.
Martial arts...
It's the way I'm talking, unfortunately.
Martial arts just doesn't work.
Just doesn't work at all.
And I've proved it.
Yes, yes.
There, hidden in the scripture, is one of the top martial arts guys.
He's...
We proved that everything he did was wrong.
We proved it.
And that's what really impressed them.
They didn't think it was possible.
So ever since then, ever since then, they've been trying to get these skills out of me.
Okay, but where did you get it?
Where did you get your skills?
What?
Where did you get your skills?
From the 16th.
Oh.
And this, well...
This is a special force in the Middle East.
So within the armed forces, the top brass in the armed forces were trying to do something about it, trying to prevent it from happening.
They all knew about the build-up of the group in the first midnight in 1954.
Some of these people met in a place called Jaraba.
We went there and destroyed them.
We also got documents of advanced technology.
I was told, don't forget, I was an 18-year-old boy, Who'd never seen a television set in his life.
Who worked on a farm, left school at 14.
I went out there, I had no idea where I was.
They trained me in these skills.
We went on various operations throughout the whole of the Middle East, including Egypt.
And these, like I said, I was unaware at the time exactly what I was doing.
I knew that what I had been told is that the elite had infiltrated the British intelligence, the governments in Britain, and they were planning to destroy it.
And that's exactly what I have done.
Britain is finished now.
It's going under.
I know.
I know.
It's going under.
And we were trying to prevent it.
So, like I said, we killed about, well, I'm saying we killed, we killed about 13 people in Jarabah.
And these people had gotten advanced into technology.
When we were there, on the way there, to the target area, we saw two ships, spear ships, I believe, leaving the Israeli border.
These were huge things and when I saw them and I questioned them to forget it.
Just to forget it.
Listen, I was told when I was learning, when I had acquired these skills and I asked when I asked how I came by the skills they just said they're from out of this world.
Yeah.
Incredible.
I can prove this.
I can give you a demonstration of the skills, and you won't recognize it from anywhere.
I can disarm anybody.
I can take two or three people out.
I can take guns out of people, machetes, whatever.
But it's also a strategy that's involved.
Do you understand?
It's the strategy.
How do you get near a person when you've got a gun?
You have to get close enough to take the gun before you shoot you.
But all of these skills I acquired from the 16.
Incredible.
And it goes further than that, Kelly.
But like I said, I can't go into it.
Okay.
These people are so, so clever.
And this was underway at a place called Jaraba.
Now, you'll not find that place on the map now because it's been taken off the map.
But if you look in the URL maps, you'll find it.
Jarabar.
Yeah, I've heard of it.
Jara, Jara-ba. Jara-ba.
Jara, or, or, yeah, Jara-ba. Jara-ba.
Yeah, Jara-ba.
It's about 35 miles inland from Lebanon, and it's near the Israeli border and Syrian borders.
Okay, when you saw the ships, you're talking about UFOs.
Yeah.
So the technique from the ETs?
I was brought up during the war.
My family were very, very poor.
I'm not an educated person.
And I've never drank in your life.
I've never smoked in your life.
And when I went into the armed forces, I was calling for national service, which was two years.
I was picked during my training because I was a gymnast and apparently the qualifications were that I was a gymnast, I never drank, I never smoked and that was one of the main things why I chose this.
And because I had no background.
If you've got no background, It's exactly what they're looking for.
So when you're training these skills, what I say to people, nobody's going to believe this.
I'm not of any importance.
I've got no credibility.
And that's exactly what they want.
Yes.
Wow.
That's the main qualifications.
Because there's no one going to believe this.
But now the SES do believe this.
They're talking about the specialists of the world.
They're believers that after these skills, and it's coming out.
The Arabs believers that sent for us, and I can prove I've been able to help with photographs with their officers.
I even got a medal of them.
And they're not going to do that for no reason at all.
They were aware of the operations that took place in their country.
I killed quite a few rare people, and they were fully aware of it, and like I said, that's why I was there.
Okay, but how long ago did you learn these skills?
It's 52 years ago now.
And you've been able to keep them going the whole time?
So are you willing to put this out in public?
I don't have to train, I don't have to do anything, so it's It's part of Islam.
I can't forget it.
I don't have to train.
I'm 72 years of age, and I don't forget any of these skills whatsoever.
I've been put to the test more than once by the SES. And like I said, they're doing everything in their power now to get these skills.
And I won't give them.
I won't allow them to have these skills.
Okay, why not?
Just out of curiosity?
Because they are part of the system.
The false fire operations, they are behind them.
On what side?
They have to overcome the fear barriers.
If you can't overcome those fear barriers, you just lose no time.
Half of the Americans now, in the Middle East, are scared.
And this is why they're killing innocent people.
They don't know how to claw.
Fear, panic sets in.
I just looked at David Aik's website today and they're showing you shooting some old guy in the middle of the street.
And you can see he's not carrying any weapons, he's not carrying any explosives.
And they're just shooting him down in the street.
All that's going to do is create more hatred towards the Americans.
You know, you're not supposed to hide out there, we shouldn't be out there.
You know?
And the enemy is very, very clever.
Because no matter what people like David A. does, he's actually working for them.
And he's unaware that he's working for them.
Because when he talks about getting the work together, the people together, that's exactly what they want.
That's what they're after.
That's exactly what they want.
Can you explain that?
Can you explain that a little bit?
Yeah.
Well, the whole object, the exercise, like...
Ronald Reagan said, he said, if we were being attacked from outer space by people from another planet, the world would get together and we wouldn't have any problems.
This is what he's trying to say, get the world together.
That's what they want.
They want to bring down the barriers.
They want to bring down the borders.
That's the whole object they exercise.
This is why we're part of the European Union.
And yet nobody in England wants to be part of the European Union.
That's just to bring down the borders.
There's swamp in England now.
We're turning into a multiracial dustbin.
I'm not a racist, but we're turning into a multiracial dustbin.
We're losing our identity.
I mean, the new laws are just coming out from Brussels.
We're not allowed to have guns anymore.
We're not allowed to have names anymore.
We have no protection at all.
It's incredible.
When I was 17, I could go out and have a post office and pay 10 shillings.
I don't know if you...
10 shillings, which is about $5 in those days.
And get a license to buy any gun I want.
That's when I was 70 at the age I was 20.
Now, you're not allowed anything.
You're just not allowed anything.
We live in a police state.
The next step now is what we've just done, is we have a Home Parliament.
The Home Parliament is done delivered.
They've got the Liberals and the Tories together now.
The Labour Party, because they're all part and parcel of the same people.
What they're doing now is, The Labour Party's got worth trillions of pounds worth of debt.
It's bringing millions and millions of people in to make sure that our young children can't get a job anywhere.
Now, the idea now is to get the Tories and the Liberals together and destroy the both parties because they can't get out of this mess.
They're going to look as if they're responsible for the state of the country, and it's going to bring those two parties down together, and that's exactly what they want.
Okay, but tell me something.
When you got your training, did you know where it was coming from?
No.
You didn't?
I knew it was, all they said was out of this world.
Right, but the people that gave it to you, I mean, did you see them in...
There was one guy which was very, very strange.
He was about, what, six feet two, blonde hair, big blue eyes, and he came every so often.
He would come and give us orders.
Our train was a group of four.
There were 60 of us.
Eight of us was intelligence.
They went out intelligence at work.
Don't forget we didn't have television in those days.
We had nothing.
So they were our intelligence people.
So you had eight people who were in various different parts of the Middle East.
It was gathering information for them.
So when you...
Where our drop-out points were, pick-up points.
Pick-up points is where we don't have to take any weapons.
We can get the weapons while we get there.
And, you know, it's all planned in advance.
You see?
Did you speak the language?
Which language?
Arabic.
No.
Two of my group, they spoke Arabic.
One spoke Greek and I was living for two years.
They had been doing this since 1950.
So, one of them disappeared after that position.
Because when one disappeared, then I came in.
And I was known as the 16th.
Because I was the 16th person.
I see.
You see?
So, and then, like I said, they rushed me through the treatment.
And I had three days where...
three days where the trend is in three days, where this one step beyond business, it was like a form of hypnosis.
But you went in a different dimension.
How can I put it?
You were aware something was happening, and you couldn't do nothing about it, and then when I woke up three days later, I had got all these skills and we feared probably I had gone.
I wasn't afraid of anything.
What about your physicality?
Did that change?
What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to get the people who want to fight against this to train and ready.
There's some big disasters on the way and people have to be prepared for that.
They have to be trained in the right way for it.
Going out and buying guns, Kerry, and learning to shoot a target, it's not going to get you anywhere.
It's not going to get you anywhere.
Because the fear is the sum of luck.
If you don't know when to pull a gun, if you haven't got the goods to pull the trigger, and if the violence around you affects you in any way, you're no good in a battlefield.
What about your mental abilities?
Did they change in any other way?
Not really.
Just frankly.
I mean, I was a keep fit fanatic before I went in.
I still am.
My physical ability didn't really change.
I found out the only thing that actually disappeared was the fear.
I had no fear of anything.
Nothing at all.
What about your mental?
I found out I could do things.
I found out I could stop anything.
I could take any weapon and I couldn't remember training for it.
I don't know.
I could just do anything.
In regards of disarming people, the strategy, working it out.
It's just so hard to decide.
You'd have to see.
What about survival?
What about survival?
Were you better able to survive?
Like survive, you know, physically survive?
Kerry, I don't know if you can see this or not.
Yes?
I taught survival.
I teach survival.
Okay.
I'm a path.
I have a pilot station up there.
I've been flying for 12 years.
I could never have done that before.
I did skydiving for 6 years.
I took people to the Outer Havridis, which is off the West Coast of Scotland.
I didn't teach them how to survive.
And I did that for 20 years.
Okay.
Teaching.
I taught map reading, up-speed learning.
Did you learn, do you think that you learned that during the four-day training session?
During the four days training session, I learned the skills of combat and survival and the strategy of the combat.
You did?
I learned that within four days.
After that, I just had to keep on...
How can I call it?
We're trained with various different weapons I'd never seen before.
There was one called the sash.
It was when you were not wearing just like a white shirt.
The sash was a special weapon, and I've tried to duplicate it since, and I can get somewhere near it, but it just doesn't look anything like it.
It's when you're not carrying any weapons.
This weapon can just literally quickly destroy smithereens within seconds.
I've got a copy of one in the bedroom there, which I made up myself, but you'd have to see it in action.
Here's something else, Kerry.
We never punched anybody.
We didn't have to use our fists.
We don't have to use our feet.
And you have to see it to believe it, Kerry.
Wow.
You must see it.
Okay?
Okay, what about psychic?
Does it make you psychic or telepathic?
No.
No?
No, no, no, no.
It doesn't make you psychic or telepathic, no.
What it does is it gives you the ability To work out something in advance.
I see.
Well in advance.
In other words, what Habsians like, who's my enemy, where's my enemy, and why is he my enemy?
And once you understand that, then no matter what the enemy does, I am aware of it, I know when they're going to do it.
And I know how they're going to do it.
Because of that.
It's a set program.
Let me know, why is it you're not working for the military right now?
I'm just thinking.
Did you have a greater capacity to retain information?
No.
No, no, no, no.
It's like I said, the information, this program, It was the skills, the physical skills, and then the strategy skills were planted after four days.
The military was working for the elite.
I know, but how did you get out of it?
I mean, a guy like you, why would they let you go?
Well, how they did it was this.
The first, a new order was called the British Empire.
Right?
The group was formed within the armed forces secretly and what they did was they took certain people out of different regiments so there wasn't We didn't have a camp, but I had a training area which we went to every so often.
Then I went back to camp.
So there was no trace of where I had been.
As far as my company was concerned, I'd been on a working party somewhere.
And it had all been set up for me.
So when I went on a working party, They believed that I left the camp to go to another camp to work, but I wasn't.
I was already training, or I was away in operation, Black Ops.
So when I came back, I disappeared back in the normal forces.
The British government were aware something was taking place, obviously, because there were losing men everywhere.
So one of the ideas was to stop National Service, bring the people away from the Middle East, which they did, and When they broke up the British Empire, that was the whole idea, was when we had Hong Kong, they made sure that the people had kept the British passport, they did the sailing out with India, so these people were entitled to come here.
It was part of their strategy to be able to get thousands of different races into this country to destroy the British way of life.
It's all been planned for years and years.
Then you had the Tavistock Institute, Who brought on common purpose, who trained common purpose, to infiltrate the police, the security services, and that's been going on right up to the present year.
Now they're in full charge.
They've overtaken everything.
Have you heard of Brian Gerrish?
I'm sorry, what was the name?
Brian Gerrish.
Gerrish?
No, I don't think so.
It's G-E-R-R-I-S-E-H. Yes, okay.
I think you need to contact him.
Okay.
If you go on Google and put his name in, and put the word common purpose.
Okay.
Okay?
Then you'll understand why the British Army haven't got these skills and why I'm not offering to these people.
Okay.
Interesting.
Have you ever heard of the Tavistock Institute?
Oh, yes.
Yes, absolutely.
Okay.
Okay, well, I'll look at this.
Well, this is where that infiltrator at Oxford and Cambridge, this is where his spies came to be, Bertis McCann.
They were trying to seek us out.
We're trying to find out where we were.
Did they ever do it?
We knew every move they made.
But don't forget, the Queen is behind this.
The Rory Fon is behind this.
Behind you?
No!
Behind the table is the way things are going.
Oh, yes.
They are all the elite.
They are all the Illuminati.
Yes.
Well, okay, but how have they let you slip through their fingers?
This is what I don't understand.
I'm not of any importance now.
The group obviously doesn't exist anymore.
When I came out of the Armed Forces, I was supposed to stay on for seven years, but they stopped us.
I wasn't allowed to do that.
So when I came out of the Armed Forces, I had no way of contacting the 16 again, and don't forget these guys for five or six years older than me.
So they're going to be in the 80s now, if they're still alive.
You see, we pulled out the sabers.
We handed the aliens back over to the Greeks.
I'm sorry, you handed what?
You handed the aliens over to the Greeks?
The island.
The island.
Oh yeah, okay.
The sabers, the island.
And the Turks took half the island and the Greeks took the other half.
Right.
Okay.
Right?
Yes.
So that's what happened.
So what they did was they pulled their armed forces away from the Middle East and we couldn't operate then.
We couldn't operate because we weren't there anymore.
I see.
They pulled the ordinary units out, you see.
When they pulled the units out, they pulled me out as well.
So there's no way I could stay behind or we could stay behind because the cover was being in ordinary regiments at this time.
Oh, yes.
See, because we disappeared in ordinary regiments.
Yeah, but what happened to your leadership?
I have no idea.
You have no idea?
I have no idea at all.
Really?
Well...
Ten years after I came at the army, I had received a letter with a platform ticket.
Do you know where a platform ticket is?
It loads you on the railway stations?
Yes, I guess.
Well, they sent me a platform ticket through the post.
And I had to be at the central station in Newcastle.
And when I got there, the chat came up and said, it's okay...
He told us up and said, right, we won't be contacting you anymore.
Wow.
And that's all I know.
That's incredible.
That's it for your whole life?
That's it.
What year was that?
That would be, let's say now, that's 35, 40 years ago now.
Oh, you're kidding.
What do you mean?
Well, I didn't have any credibility.
I was just an ordinary worker.
Who the hell is going to believe me?
They're very, very clever people.
Nobody believed this, even the SES, until I went down to Haripat and proved it.
Okay, but when did you go down and prove it?
18 months ago.
Oh.
So why all of a sudden did you come forward?
Why did you come...
Why did you...
I didn't.
I didn't.
What I tried to do, I wrote the book, because I wrote the book, trying to get a hold of the 16.
Yeah.
A company called Britain, it's one of the top security companies in England, contacted me.
That's 14 years ago.
So they just set you loose at that point?
That was it?
I don't think they had any other option.
Weren't they aware that you could have talked?
They weren't worried about that?
What, with my background?
In a chap called David Golding, he's the chap who sent me to Hereford to put me through the test.
It was then when I started to realise exactly who these people were.
Who are they?
They're working for the elite.
Oh, okay, but they're the SAS, is what you mean.
Yeah, yeah.
Britain.
Yeah, I hear you.
I'll send you some documented proof.
Okay.
After 18 months ago, I said I was sick of waiting and I wasn't going to bother with them anymore.
And this is what he said, John, you are not to call it a day.
You have the best.
Sorry, you have the best.
Stop letting other people run your life.
So they're admitting what I've got is the best.
This is a top security company who the head guy of their company is also SES, which is a special Like I said, they offered me money.
And when I discovered exactly who they were working for...
How did you discover that?
Well, I found out about...
I found out about the SCS doing false flag operations.
Is that through contacts?
Pardon?
Yeah, that was through contacts, I remember, yeah.
They said that most of the lads in the SES are totally unaware, just like most of the troops now in the Middle East, are totally unaware of what they're doing or why they're doing it.
They just do it.
It's supposed to be for king and country, but we all know it's a lie, we know the war is a lie, but they're still doing it.
Don't ask me why, but they just do it.
They do it and they know it's wrong.
They know they shouldn't be doing it.
Absolutely.
Well, are you aware of the Stargates?
Well, I've been here, I've been very near us.
Okay.
So, did you guys...
Listen, when we went to Egypt, the answer to the operation was, the operation was get NASA. It wasn't.
It was...
An archaeologist?
Yes, I am.
Oh, sure!
Yes, I am.
Okay.
I'm one of the stars here in the Gulf of Eden.
Yeah?
Okay, good.
Have you been there?
This guy had a box and in the box It was advanced technology, that's all I was told.
So I had to get into this big compound surrounded by 13-foot fences, two 13-foot fences with a dog patrol, Russians inside and the Arabs as well.
We got into that building And these are some of the skills that the SES will want off us, will try to get off us.
I've proved that we can get from one side into the building without anybody seeing this.
We got into the building.
This was 11 o'clock at night.
We got into his office.
In Cairo, he was a Russian archaeologist.
This was 1959.
All I knew was we had to get into this compound.
We killed the guy.
We got the documents we needed.
We got the box we needed.
When we killed him, we shot him in the head.
We used an oil filler of a car, of one of the wagons, brand new.
Akhen is a silencer.
What we did was, we made it look like suicide.
There was only one door to go into his office.
There was three windows which were barred.
You couldn't get out.
There was only this one door.
We went outside the door, put the bolts in, locked the door, put the keys in his pocket, but we weren't in the room when we did it.
Really?
Yeah, and I can prove that.
I can show how it's done.
Wow.
Now, the SES had read the book, and this is why the book comes over like a fairy tale, because they can't even imagine it.
I explained in the book how it's done, and I still don't know how it's done.
When he came to my club, I showed him how to do it in my office, and I put the keys in his hand, and I wasn't in the room when I did it.
I was outside in the passage.
Oh, well, so he's seen you in action then?
Well, he's seen it, but he's still doing how to do it.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I mean, I actually showed him, but the techniques I used...
We have an initiative course.
What he's got to do is, I put an egg on a piece of wood at the bottom end of me hole.
The far end of the hole, which is about 40 feet away, okay?
Yeah.
He has to stand at this end.
He stands at this end of the hole, okay?
He has to pick the egg up and bring it to him without breaking the egg, but he hasn't got to leave that spot.
Really?
Oh, so you can do telekinesis?
No, no, forget about that.
No, this is not telekinesis.
Have you ever seen that done?
I mean, have you ever saw telekinesis done?
No.
I mean, really done?
You just take their word for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it can't be done.
This was done, and this was done through common sense.
It's done by bits of string.
But he couldn't do it.
He had eight attempts, and he still couldn't do it.
But I assure you how these things are done.
And these are just initiative courses.
It's the plant ideas in the head.
So when you come across an obstacle, you can overcome that obstacle.
Wow!
For instance, I can walk up to a river, which is planned in advance, because I know what's there, what I expect.
So I can walk up to a river that you wouldn't be able to get across either in a boat, it's too deep, it's impossible, but I can get from one side, To the other, by myself, with my equipment, and I'm going to touch the water.
And when I get on the other side, all the equipment will be gone.
The equipment I use.
Okay.
That's what these people are after.
Alright, well...
They're not only just after those particular skills, they're after the combat skills.
Sorry.
Excuse me?
The combat skills?
Yeah, because, like I said, we don't use our fists.
In the armed forces, people have things like bulletproof vests, grenades, helmets, you name it, they've got it.
Protecting ourselves.
Kicking and punching someone like that's not going to get you anywhere.
It's not going to get you anywhere.
All this gym about your bare feet screaming and punching.
See, when you punch someone, Kerry, you push them away.
You have to face them.
And they know that you're going to do something, so therefore the punch isn't going to hit them that hard anyway.
Of course, so it could damage your fist.
You've got to be able to get...
You've got to be able to surprise them.
You have to be able to break parts of their body without using your fist or without kicking.
And it has to be done in such a way where other people can't get after you.
All of this business about some martial arts guys standing in the middle when everybody's surrounding them and everybody's joking about waiting for their turn to come in.
It's not like that in real life.
Oh yes, absolutely.
They're all coming at once.
I can really do that.
I can really do it with the ships.
Whatever they've got, I can take it off them.
This is what the SES are after.
Their martial arts expert sat down shaking.
You just couldn't believe it.
Wow.
And ever since then, ever since then, Kerry, this SAS officer has been telling no one.
He doesn't want anyone to know.
What he wants is to get the skills he's settled and say that the skills come from the SAS. Ah.
So they're keeping me down.
They don't want me to go anywhere near the SAS population.
The actual soldiers in the SES, they don't want me to come along because this comes from John Irwin.
These skills are coming from him.
They don't want that.
They can't have someone like me.
Okay.
Well, you've got a website out there, though.
So are you training people?
No, no, no.
I'm not training people in those particular skills.
The idea of putting a website out there, again, People who try to look at it, and we're training nobody.
What I'm trying to do is contact the 16, and that's why I put the damn website on.
But you can only get the website up if you put my name in.
You can't get it up any other way.
In other words, if you put combat in or special forces skills, my website doesn't come up.
Well, okay.
I mean, look.
I've been recording this.
I could release this interview if you want.
Yeah, whatever you want, yeah.
Do you want it to go under your name?
I mean, do you want government?
What I'm trying to do now is this.
What I would like.
This is what I'm trying to do.
There's some big, big problems coming over here.
What I would like is your periods.
To train people who are going to be facing these problems.
At the same time, at the same time, you're better than it.
When are you better?
To keep your business going as well.
But I'm not doing this for the money.
I mean, I need money because my wife is 16 years younger than me.
She had a stroke five years ago.
She paralyzed her own side.
You see?
So I need people to look after when I'm training people.
But we all need money, otherwise we can't live.
But I'm not really doing this for the money.
Did they become your friends?
No, just the...
I saw the 16, the members of the 16, on about two or three occasions, that's about all.
But we worked, we actually worked in four, you see.
There was four of us.
What happened was, they said, ear to the sixteenths was government intelligence, and laying things out for us, and not sure how it works.
I don't know exactly how they did it, because we're not allowed that information.
I mean, haven't...
So the American government hasn't tried to contact you?
No military people from America?
No, but no, no, no.
I don't think they even know about this.
Really?
Yeah, I don't think they know anything about this.
Did you ever see anybody besides the tall blonde guy?
No.
Yes, but we didn't know each other's names or had nicknames.
Oh really?
Yeah?
Yeah, well that's it.
So there's lots of things I'm not saying.
There's lots of things I wouldn't show up here, for obvious reasons.
But like I said, where I'm sort of marked, I'm what you call, I'm more green.
Do you know what that means?
No.
How can I put it?
I'm not classed as dangerous.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I'm not classed as dangerous at this stage.
It's only when I start making contacts, I look as though something's taking place.
It's when I turn from green to orange, and then it goes to red.
Yeah.
Well, this is, I would say, they're listening now, and...
And everything we do.
I've still got friends who tell me this and tell me what's happening and when it's happening.
So I'm fully aware of really what's going on in various places in England.
I mean, I knew about the things I took place and learning, and I've mentioned certain words because they're key words.
We knew all about that.
We knew how it was going to be done.
It's still like 9-11.
Did you know ahead of time?
Did you know before?
We knew in advance what was going to happen.
What about 9-11?
Did you know about 9-11?
Well, no I didn't.
When 9-11 took place, we knew exactly it was No airplanes were involved.
There was no airplanes at all involved.
No airplane can possibly cut through solid steel girders in concrete floors.
They just can't do it.
It's not possible.
See, the art of self-defense, Kerry, is the element of surprise.
So now all these interviews you've done, How do you sleep at night?
Well, I mean, I think that we're basically doing the best we can to wake people up to what's going on and to try to help them prepare mentally and spiritually for what's going on.
Do you think you're making any real progress?
Oh yeah, definitely.
I think once people wake up, I mean, I don't know how you're going to wake them up.
I think, even if you do wake them up, they wouldn't know what to do anyway.
He said the blueprint for controlling the world was called the Bible.
That's the blueprint.
If you look at the Bible, use It's fear again.
It's where you're supposed to drown people, bring plagues on people, and they took full responsibility for what has happened.
And that was the whole idea.
It's fear again.
But, like I said, they had to wait for these things to happen in those days before they could take responsibility.
So they don't have the ability to inflict that on people now.
They can do it quite easily.
They can make earthquakes, they can change the weather patterns, they can do anything.
I think it's going to blow their minds, I think.
It's going to be so much of a shock to them to understand that everything they know has been a lie.
Everything.
See, I always thought of Ken.
What about the future?
Do you know what's going to be happening literally?
They've got to get all the logistics in place first.
And I need to know more to find out exactly where these people, where the elite are lacking.
So something's taking place now and we need more information.
Therefore we can know exactly What the next step's going to be.
The European Union now is starting to crumble.
Yes.
And they're going to have to do something about that.
They're going to have to do something relatively quick.
Who is?
So that there will be some more...
The British government.
Oh.
The elite.
The elite.
The Numinati.
They're going to have to do something pretty quickly.
What about Iran?
Within the next six months there's going to be some more first-flight operations taking place on a big scale and they're going to take place here in England and in Europe that I do know of.
I think what they're going to do is that they're going to do some They've got to have you begging for food so they can control you.
And that's exactly what they're going to do here.
Well, this is pretty interesting, I have to say.
I don't think they're going to teach everyone for quite a while.
But what about China?
What about China?
I'm not very, very rehearsed at the moment.
I'm trying to find out more.
But I don't know exactly what's going on there.
I'm going to try and find out in the next two weeks.
But there's what's happening in Korea, South Korea, North Korea, where the North Koreans are supposed to have sank one of the South Korean ships with a torpedo.
I think that's false flag as well.
In fact, I'm sure it is.
You see, these people need standard armies.
It's like the Roman Empire.
It's like the British Empire.
The reason why the British Empire failed is because they needed standard armies.
Today, what they've got is they have the weaponry.
They don't need a standard army.
They have the necessary weapons to get their To achieve what they're trying to achieve.
Like I said, during the last war, they had virtually nothing.
They just relied on armies.
But like I said, they needed Stalin armies.
And they failed them.
They just couldn't do it.
That's why they withdrew.
This is why the British Empire broke up.
And then, They needed standing armies because they needed their armies to stay in the country?
What are you saying?
They didn't have the manpower?
Well, it's like now.
The American army, the British army is all over the world.
Yes.
And unless they start using some kind of high-tech weaponry, they won't be able to maintain that.
It's not possible.
Well, okay, yeah.
It's just not possible to do it.
So the armies now, they're in North Africa, they're in Somalia, they're in Pakistan, they're in Iraq, they're in Afghanistan.
And what's happening, the whole thing is starting to crumble now.
So therefore, what they've got to do now is they've got to use some kind of nuclear device, because The armies are becoming weaker.
They can't supply men.
There isn't enough men to go around, if you understand what I mean.
They haven't got a national service in this country anymore.
They haven't got a steady flow of men who couldn't be armed forces.
Aren't the British working with the Americans and the Australians?
Yeah, exactly.
Yes, of course they are.
But you say they have a relatively small army.
Whenever I had National Service, they had a steady influx of men every year.
They haven't got that now.
People are not going in the army.
So the armies are becoming weaker.
And this is why they wanted to bring some kind of national service up in America.
Because people aren't going in the army anymore.
In fact, you'll find that alone, one of the armed forces are disillusioned to what's going on out there.
And this is why you're going to have another false flag operation take place because of that.
Well, what does the false flag operation serve in your view?
A false flag will hopefully make people join their own forces.
Just like 9-11.
9-11 gave them Got people in mind to attack this phony enemy.
The enemy that doesn't really exist.
And that's why they're out there.
They need another false flag operation.
Well, isn't it going to be...
I mean, you know about Bluebeam?
Project Bluebeam?
I know about Bluebeam.
I know about ARC. Yeah.
Okay, so you know that they're going to use an alien invasion for the next enemy, right?
That's in the middle of next year.
Really?
Yeah.
Middle of next year?
That soon?
Yeah.
You're going to see more signs than now.
In fact, I've got a picture of one outside of my house a week ago.
It's a poor picture, but I've got a picture.
I've got it on my PC. One flying saucer was seen going down the M1, sorry, the M6, and two jet fighters were chasing it, and that was only a month ago.
And that was in the local newspapers.
Okay.
So you're going to see a lot more of these flying saucers.
It's going to be a gradually buildup.
Yep.
Okay, well, you know about, do you know about the Rendlesham Forest incident?
No.
When was this?
Well, that's in Britain.
It was a UFO. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand.
Yeah, the American side came across as a flying saucer.
Yeah, I know about that.
Yes, I do.
Okay.
Yeah.
What about you?
Have you had any exposure since then to off-worlders or ETs?
No, I haven't come across anything like that.
No.
What about human-looking ETs?
The last time I came for something, that was 50 years ago.
And that was Ken.
That was Ken.
Part of the 60.
That was Ken.
That was Ken.
That was the intermediate.
He's the guy who came with the orders.
He's the guy who came with the plans.
He's the guy who's part of the One Step Beyond, which is a, like you say, brain programming thing regarding, yeah?
Have you ever gone into a portal?
No.
No.
When you're in Special Forces, Kerry, You don't have that.
They've got full control of you, and they don't tell you that much.
They'll just give you some idea, but they won't tell you all of it.
You're not meant to know.
It's as simple as that.
Your job is, you're put on an operation, and you do the operation.
It's as simple as that.
You go there, they give you the skills, and they give you the know-how, And that's it, basically.
Do you think that...
The less I know, the better.
I know, but do you think that you had your memory wiped at any point?
Yes, and yes, and yes, I believe I did.
And there's some parts of the Operation Jarabah where I can't remember Certain things that we did.
Like I said, it's...
I just can't remember.
Okay, yeah, very interesting.
I can't remember.
I was hoping you might have someone over here.
I'll take you.
I've never wanted to name it.
Working for you.
Uh...
Yeah, um...
See, before you do anything, Carrie, I'll always say that you want physical proof What I'm seeing.
I can show you.
What if I came with a camera?
You could show me it that way.
Yeah, okay.
I can show you.
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Hello?
What happened there?
Any idea?
No, other than I said I was going to come over there.
Okay.
So it's okay with you if I release this as an interview and put it out there with your name and everything, right?
Whatever.
So they ask you what time to do.
It may be half of what you see and half of what you hear.
Okay.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Okay, you take care of yourself.
You do the same.
Take care, Kelly.
It would be very, very nice to see you.
Alright.
Talk to you tomorrow.
Okay.
Take care.
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