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03/04/2010 - Barbara Young Pt.1
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Thank you.
And we're on the air today in...
It is Thursday on March 4th, and I'm going to have a special guest with me tonight.
It's Barbara Young.
And I don't know what time we're going to be able to bring her on.
I'm hoping that she'll be on Friday.
In about 10 minutes because I have a few things to discuss with the audience right here and now.
So, Barbara, if you're on the phone, if you don't mind holding.
What I want to talk about here is a couple of news items and then a few books that I think it's important that people take a look at.
First of all, we've got a news item that's talking about Sean David Morton, who is a well-known psychic Many of you may be familiar with him.
He often speaks on basically the New Age circuit, and he has been arrested for investor fraud.
I have to say I was one of those investors, and I lost a good half of my inheritance.
It wasn't a huge amount of money, but it was a lot of money to me.
However, I don't think that Sean actually...
Meant to mislead investors.
I do believe that you can predict things psychically in terms of the markets and currency, which is what he was trying to do.
However, he was working with some people that were not honest, apparently, and that's where the problems began.
So I just wanted to talk about that a little bit and let the audience know that what you're going to see out there in the newspapers is not the whole truth.
And I still believe that Sean has his heart in the right place.
So, however, I'd love to get my money back.
So it'll be interesting to see where that all leads.
On top of it, I wanted to bring a book to people's attention that are not already aware of it.
And as many of you will know, I traveled to France recently and interviewed Laura Knight Jedzik.
And during that time, prior in preparation, I had read a lot of her interactions with what she calls the Cassapians, her contacts.
And she uses the Ouija board.
It's simply an instrument through which she contacts them.
And she does it in sort of a group group.
atmosphere in which she's vetting the information they give her.
She double-checks that information.
And so she has a different approach to channeling than, let's say, the norm.
And she's also quite a brilliant woman.
So I encourage you to look on Project Camelot for that interview.
I should be editing it and getting it out there fairly soon.
The name of the book that I wanted to bring everyone's attention to is called Bringers of the Dawn.
It's teachings from the Pleiadians, and it's written by or channeled by Barbara Marciniak and has some very excellent information, and it was referred to me by, again, the Cassiopeians through Laura Knight-Jedsick,
and I took their advice and read the book and find it to be very excellent in terms of getting information out there that people are Maybe ready for, but haven't heard a lot about.
And I think the book is actually, I don't know, seven to ten years old at this point.
There's another book that I want to recommend.
It's by Andy Lloyd, another person that we were able to interview when I went to England just recently.
He has got a website, I think it's called darkstar.com, and he's talking about the brown dwarf or second son.
And there is a A book called Ezekiel 1.
It's actually a novel that Andy Lloyd has written and I have to say that this was a really interesting twist because we went to interview him and I was expecting a fairly scientifically based interview and instead I found out that he is now moved on to be investigating what in essence is the Anunnaki and the bigger story and in order to do that he's Taking what some may call literary license
and writing a book, a novel.
Actually, Ezekiel 1, I believe, is his first book, his first novel, and then there's going to be another one coming out very shortly.
I think that's going to be very exciting for people.
Take a look at that book because he's got some very interesting conclusions in there and possible theories about what's really going on on our planet about what's happening in the future and I just want to encourage everyone to take a look at his novel because he was able to use literary license to talk about things that most people would not take seriously otherwise and so he's put it in a novel form it actually
would make a perfectly great movie and so anyway I just wanted to let everyone know about that and Someone is actually Skyping me saying that Bringers of the Dawn, it was written in 19 or channeled in 1987.
So that's quite a while ago.
But I have to say that they were talking about these times right now that we're in.
And so that's what makes it so important and so pertinent at this moment.
Lastly, I wanted to talk about very briefly what's going on with Project Camelot.
We are I'm expanding the site, sort of splitting off in different directions.
Bill will be creating his own website on projectavalon.net, and I will be creating a website that is called Project Camelot Productions.
And both websites will be linked through what will basically be the Project Camelot portal.
And that will all reside at projectcamelot.org, the URL that everyone is familiar with and used to.
However, we will be going in different directions.
We have been going in different directions really for the past year, I'd say.
Some things that are really fascinating me are just simply not of interest to Bill and vice versa.
So this is all part of the change that our planet is going through.
And it's definitely affected Project Camelot.
We have very different ways of dealing with things, very different ways of viewing things, and I think that this will be a great solution to allow our work to really expand and to go in different directions.
So stay tuned to projectcamelot.org in the future, and I hope you enjoy the changes that are going to be very evident there very soon.
Okay, let's see.
Barbara, are you on the line with me?
I think maybe not.
So what I will do here is I basically will go to her website and I want to encourage everyone to take a look at her website.
I'm not sure how she would classify herself.
I think of her as a person who does sort of regression therapy.
But I think she might classify herself in a little bit different way.
Actually, I did a regression with her just a day or two ago.
She's very adept, guiding people on what I know of as a guided sort of regression or meditation.
And she is dealing with the transition that we're going to go through here on the planet and where each soul is at Sort of at the present time and she will, you know, bring you back into various lives and have you examine that and also take you forward and figure out where you are at, what you're actually looking to fulfill in this lifetime and so on.
And so she has a background that I really want her to talk about because it's kind of, it's actually very fascinating.
She was in the Navy And then she left the Navy to pursue this line of work, which is really sort of unusual, a very unusual approach to life, I think.
And the name of the website is called templechrisis.org.
And it's spelled T-E-M-P-L-E-R-C-H-R-Y-S-E-S.org.
And this...
This audio from this radio show will be available on our site as soon as it's downloaded after the show, so you'll be able to get all this information at that time.
So, Barbara, are you there?
I am.
Hi.
It's nice to hear your voice.
Good.
Thank you.
Same with you.
Basically, I'd like you to go over your background before we get into what you actually do at this time so that people understand where you kind of were coming from, at least in this life.
I started out in Tucson, just growing up, but the whole room would turn silvery white and either an archangel with wings would appear Their conversation primarily dealing with the divine realm and or beings of light and their conversation centered on stabilizing my intake of memory,
correcting material dogma in religious data, etc.
Those encounters continued all the way through until I think I was 43 at the time.
But in the meantime, I was told what education, where to go, what to deal with in order to know Earth.
So I'm basically University of Arizona in Tucson in pre-med and then married, moved to China Lake for Missile systems and so on education, but then continued my formal education, UCLA, Stanford, and Berkeley in the 60s.
Very much involved in altered states of consciousness, paranormal research, and so on and so forth.
Plus, religious studies.
Then when everything was complete, I had an external divine experience, except this time the archangel knelt down beside me.
Which was one unusual.
And then this huge, deep, very loud, external voice of the Father stated, it was time to go forth.
And everything disappeared.
And I didn't know what that meant.
And so the next night, everything went white again.
I thought, oh, thank heavens.
I didn't want to get this all wrong.
But this time, The ceiling opened up into a V-shaped with archangels all the way up into the heavens with clouds and so on, but they were singing Hallelujah.
And they sang Hallelujah three times, and then they said, Bring the children unto the Father, for they have lost the way.
And then it just all closed up and left.
And at that point I had already been Directing and guiding persons into the divine realm and studying what was left off by the Inquisition, what was true Christianity, and what was missing.
For instance, what are we here for?
That was the primary subject, and it's to develop the nature of your spirit.
That's the full purpose of life itself on Earth.
Okay, Carrie?
Well, no, that's a great summation of your background and experience and how you came to this place.
So, in terms of the Templars, can you talk a little bit about that time, that era, and why that pertains to what you know?
Well, your spiritual body itself...
You're in two categories.
One is mortal, which you're a son or daughter of man.
And immortal, meaning that at the end of your mortal stage evolution, you're involved with a mystical divine teacher who ascended you through visualization into the divine realm.
And if you so choose, When you chose to continue to be a divine being, your whole spirit was transfigured into light.
When that transfiguration occurs, you begin the fourth stage in what's called the Great Cycle of Life, the Immortal Stage.
In Jesus' time, at the Common Era, It ended the civilization's awakening stage, and he was introducing the rise stage.
I know this is kind of like I'm skipping all around, but I'm trying to fill in to show you the difference between a mystical night Templar and general society itself.
You're in a cycle of life stage.
And those are six stages.
Most of our civilization beings at this time are either in the mortal Hades stage, or they've been transfigured into an immortal, entering a 2,000 year period of the awakening stage, 2,000 period stage of rise, then coming to completion, In the crown stage.
Jesus introduced the rise stage for all immortals at that time.
All of his students, most of his students, and the apostles in a future life wanted to continue their divine life program.
In other words, once you enter the divine life program, you enter the divine realm in a particular order of event.
According to sacred symbolism.
Once you're there, you take in the nature of the father and mother.
Now, persons are going to say, well, I haven't heard about the mother.
Well, that's true because the Catholic Church removed all references to life, its purpose, and what you're here for.
So it's God the mother drops down to the Christmas daughter.
And in Jesus' time, He called her Sophia, which is the Greek word for wisdom.
If you were Greek, it would have been Athena, or if you were in Egypt earlier in evolution, it would have been Isis.
Same spirit, just different logos' names.
Now, as you enter the divine realm, like I said, you take in the nature of the Father, but you're adding divine light, memory to your spirit.
Every life, moments, time, minutes that you enter the divine realm, you're taking in their nature.
And that purpose is to transfigure your material memories that you're making up, life after life, into the nature of the Father and Mother.
Jesus called it the Christing.
That's out of the Greek, Chrysos.
So you're either transfigured or Christed into the nature of the father and mother.
Why in Jesus' time, his students were called Christ-men and women.
And it's full contact with the family of God for your advancement.
But Barbara, this is actually non-denominational, isn't it?
It's a reality, not a religion.
A religion is a made-up psychology by man between man and God.
When the divine life program enters your life, it's a reality.
Okay, but there will be people out there that don't speak in this particular language or jargon that you're using.
Well, there's not, because the Catholic Inquisition killed all sons and daughters of God For 600 years and removed all data.
Absolutely not allowed to be practiced.
Okay, and what about the people that are Muslim and of other faiths?
You mean the material mind?
Yeah, I'm talking about the, in other words, I understand what you're saying about the distinction between religion, but is there a way you could maybe clarify that a little clearer for people that are listening, just so they understand it a little, you know, because it's a fairly sophisticated distinction.
Okay, remember your spirit, not the biological system.
Your spirit is over millions of years old.
If it's born into a family, and I don't care what the material religion is, the spirit still contains its own relationship between itself and the father and mother.
The mother created your spirit in the first place.
It sent you out to earth to grow up.
So your spirit does not have a material religion.
Can you understand that?
I think that that's a more clear way of stating it.
I think maybe people will grasp that.
I just wanted to make that really clear before you moved on.
Right.
So go ahead and move along in regard to...
Basically, how you get to the Templars and beyond.
Well, the Templars are all immortals.
You could not belong to a Templar order unless, first, you ascended through direction by the Templar High Priest into the Divine Realm.
Once you're in the Divine Realm and entered what's called The Divine Life Program's basic itinerary.
From that itinerary, your state of divine advancement is determined.
And that determines what tunic that you wore, the color of the tunic that you wore.
Okay?
Okay, and do you want to delineate the different colors of tunics and what they symbolize?
Awakening stage, the rise, and then the crown stage, you wore white.
Okay.
Brown would be material.
You're primarily material-oriented in the awakening stage, although you are a young immortal.
It's blue in the rise stage, but blue is a sacred symbol for mental intellectualism.
In the rise stage, you entered the divine realm and could attend the Temple of Solomon.
In that temple, you had unlimited knowledge, the same as the Pyramid of Light, although the Temple of Solomon was more used as a place to sit with several other beings of light to discuss certain aspects of society and so on, because you're an idealist.
If you've achieved a state of advancement, say the rise stage or even in the crown, you're an idealist because your intrinsic knowledge is way beyond the average person.
Okay, and maybe you can talk about Excalibur.
All right.
Within the divine realm and your development, as you pass from stage to stage, Certain symbols are used to activate a next or higher level of advancement.
The sword Excalibur cannot be pulled out until you're in at least the upper rise stage.
The reason for that is that you have to have a certain percentage of light, divine, Psycho aspects within your personality to be trusted with truth.
Otherwise you would distort that truth once you attained it.
And when you pull Excalibur, which most persons have already done that I have worked with in some past life, say back in the Templar period, it was a means of activating divine truth.
In other words, The sword represents divine truth.
The stone represents your spirit.
So it's basically a symbol of divine truth locked up in your spirit.
When I walk somebody up to it at this particular time, I ask how the handle is designed.
And how that handle is designed informs me immediately of the state Of divinity that that spirit contains at this particular time in this life.
Reach over and pull it out, and that's a sign that, yes, you can be activated into divine life.
Then you hold it up to the source of all truth, the Father and Mother.
If it's struck by lightning by the Father, comes down through the sword and through you, You're then transfigured into a higher state where you have access to the next higher level of truth.
At the time that you were a Templar, in that time period, Jesus had introduced the early rise state.
Now, pulling of Caliber didn't occur until later on, after the Templar period.
Prior to that time, though, The Templars did and could access Excalibur.
What you're familiar with Excalibur stories and so on and so forth, they started in around 300 or 400 A.D. With your Templars, once you pulled Excalibur and it was activated, your destiny as a Templar was to spread divine truth Stand up for it to the death.
And it was their ideal to create in Israel, or Palestine, that area, a temple of truth.
And that was to be the center for truth for the world for the rest of civilization, which ends in AD 4000.
But unfortunately, Everything went awry, and there was a betrayal, and the negative force came in, took over the Catholic Church.
In other words, through spiritual birth, growing up within the bodies, in that position within the Church, to remove the Divine Life Program and to kill all Templars and all sons and daughters of God for the next 600 years.
And that thrusts the whole world into a material reality in order to remove from all of the thousands and maybe millions of sons and daughters of God here the right to continue until completion where they become an individualized being of light.
And at that time you have ended the need for material life for lessons and You're a being of light now, so there's no longer a need for the Divine Life Program.
Okay, and maybe you can talk, we're going to go to a break here in just a moment here, but maybe you can talk briefly about the significance of the Da Vinci Code.
All right.
Actually, we're still on the air.
All right.
All right.
Do you want me to continue with Da Vinci Code?
Yeah, if you don't mind.
Just for the next moment or two before the music will start and we will know we're going to break.
All right, dear.
There it is.
That's it.
Sorry about that.
I should have been more clear.
So we are on the air with Barbara Young.
This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, Camelot Radio.
and we'll be right back.
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Barbara, are you with me?
Yes.
Okay.
So, we were just about to start talking about the Da Vinci Code, and I wonder if you could talk a little bit about the symbolism there and how that works into what it is you have learned.
Well, sacred symbolism is the word and the language of the gods.
The language of the gods is established on the planet as soon as civilization begins.
In other words, in your own evolution, if you are evolving on Earth, You evolve out of the animal realm because your spirit had to learn how to run the biological system, the human biological body.
It had to learn how to take what you see and turn it into subatomic quantum particles and integrate it into your spirit so in your next life you learned how to see or you could see and record that data.
The same with hearing.
Once you have learned the material body functions and the reason why you have three brains, reptilian.
Reptilian was established when you were a reptile.
And then the two brains later on as mammalian.
Once you're transferred into human, though, you have no memory of how to reason.
And that's with a cerebellum.
Life after life in primitive life, you slowly evolve how to reason.
Take knowledge, reason it for an independent action.
Now during that period in a primitive tribe, it's when you establish the symbolism for what is called the language of the gods or spiritual symbolism that's used for your entire evolution.
On this planet and in every planet throughout all of the galaxies, The same evolutionary program is activated.
It's set up, it's tried, and it's true, and it works.
It's established by what's called giant beings throughout all the galaxies.
And Earth is no different.
Because if I work with an ET that's transferred, his spirit transferred from another galaxy, another planet, to Earth, The sacred symbolism of the language of the gods remains the same.
And it's taking material symbols and applying a different definition that addresses the evolution of your spirit, not your mind, the soul mind.
And by the way, the soul represents your current consciousness.
And a soul is considered mortal Because just before the death of your physical body, the soul consciousness is transferred or downloaded into your spirit.
And then at death, your spirit is released from the biological system, enters the divine realm, and the stage or level of heaven matches the stage that you're currently in in your own evolution.
In other words, The heavens are broken up into, like I said, mortal, awakening, rise, and crown stage.
And da Vinci was just speaking outward and using the code as they all had to, all immortals, otherwise the Catholic Church would have arrested and killed them, which they almost did anyway.
So they all created their own language, like You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Well, I might be speaking in public.
But what I said is, I'm talking about somebody that I wanted to teach advanced data to, or not knowledge, and he wouldn't listen.
Oh, that's a bunch of nonsense.
Well, horse means knowledge.
Water means truth.
So you can't force divine truth into somebody.
So it's like an underground language.
Yes, I think that's very well said.
I do want to tell people that we are going to be taking callers at the last 15 minutes of this hour and also for the last 30 minutes of the next hour.
So our call-in numbers are on the microeffect.com website as well as projectcamelot.org and you can see one of the call-in numbers is 888-747- 747-1968 and the other one is 208-935-0094.
So the 888 number is obviously the toll-free number which is again 888-747-1968.
So Barbara, maybe you can talk then a little bit about the progression in regard to where we are at as a planet at this time In our sort of trajectory in terms of 2012 and beyond and where we're going with this.
2012 is from the extraterrestrial civilization that was established in Mexico.
And it was a rather primitive culture.
You see, when the cultures were established on the planet, they were established by extraterrestrials coming from various galaxies and so on.
The Egyptians, from their galaxy, from their planet, transferred advanced spirits here to build it.
In other words, you're born into a body, you grow up, but you have this advanced intrinsic nature.
Then you have the Greeks.
Greeks are coming from the Phaeidians.
And then you have the Romans and so on and so forth.
They're all actually political, spiritual races.
And when this civilization was established, those cultures had to be established for the growth, the overall growth of the planet.
Now, according to the Egyptian, the Christian, or the Christ men and women, or the immortals, Greeks and so on, You're in a civilization 2,000 year period progression.
Like I said, Jesus started the rise stage that lasted until A.D. 2000.
From A.D. 2000 to A.D. 4000, I've again re-established the Divine Life Program for the crown stage.
Last for 2,000 years as far as the civilization is concerned.
Within that civilization, immortals like sons and daughters of God have an opportunity now to re-establish their divine life activities, to have access to unlimited knowledge, to advance all philosophies on the planet.
And I have traveled in the last 30 years From research institutions to another, except it was rejected.
Some scientists I had been able to ascend into the divine realm for temples, and they were actually given viable blueprints for the advancement of their research.
The Medical Association, of course, turned me down.
But then they came in in 1977 and closed down all research About the spirit at UCLA, Stanford and Berkeley, because they didn't want the ethical responsibility of destroying the spirit's memory.
Why you have autistic children.
Your spirit is memorizing brain cells that are being destroyed by drugs.
When that spirit's memory is destroyed, You're reborn 20 years after your death whether you like it or not.
And when you come back in, you fuse with a fetus.
You've signed a contract with your mother to fuse with her fetus just before birth or just after at the highest percentage that we measured.
But if your spirit's memory has been altered in its ability to act through the brain It can't.
If you've had ECT in your previous life, electroconvulsive therapy, that's like sending an electrical current through your hard drive.
When all the memory matrix is within your spirit that's taken you millions of years to build up so that it can act through your brain, and they're all torn up, next life, you can't function through the brain.
And those are your worst cases of autism.
The darkness that the Catholic Church created is destroying the human race itself at this time.
How do you correct the subatomic quantum particles that make up your spirit?
You can't do it physically.
You can't do it by pills.
Now, I have been able to work with some autistic clients If they're capable of direction and guided imagery into the divine realm for the Father, He's the one that has to do it.
The Christ's Son will just fly you into the center of the galaxy and the Father will have to correct it, which has happened to several students.
Okay.
I don't know if we've got any callers, but we are in the last 15 minutes, and there are people that may have questions.
I think that this is a complex topic for most people.
Well, it is.
And I do think that some of the language may be confusing to our listeners.
So I would like anyone who's out there who would like to ask questions to go ahead and call in.
If you are on, you know, the chat room, I guess they call it.
I'm not logged into the chat room at this time, but if you're able to call in or get your chat information questions over to the producers of the micro effect, they can convey those questions to us.
And that way we can kind of go down roads that might be a little clearer for you if you have questions.
So please feel free during this last 15 minutes and going into the other hour as well to ask any questions or to call in at any time.
I'm getting a Skype message here that some people are having some trouble understanding the use of language, Barbara, because it's very symbolic.
You've been missing it for a thousand years.
The whole planet is in darkness now.
Okay.
And I'm introducing information, data, lifestyle that's real, that is supposed to be real.
That's what you live for.
And it's been a thousand years, which is about ten lives.
It's not in the religions because the Bible itself has been altered.
But it's also in code.
It's all in sacred code.
So, yes, I suppose it is difficult for everybody to understand.
What does your caller have to say?
Okay.
Well, at this time, we're not getting any clear phone calls.
Okay.
What we're going to do is continue this discussion until, you know, we get a phone call, and then obviously we'll pause and answer any questions that come along.
So, if we can talk a little bit, perhaps, about Mary Magdalene, for example.
All right.
She was a feminine Christ figure for that period of time.
Being that the social status of that time period, women could not teach men.
Men could not teach women.
It's just as it is in the Middle East right now.
She represented God the Mother and the Christus Daughter, Temple of Isis, or Athena, etc.
She could teach the women and the children It's the same data that you're hearing here because it's in all of my students once I can reach their spirit.
When I offend persons in the divine realm and they experience the divine realm imagery, it's all the same.
They know it.
You can only know it because you've heard it in many past lives.
Okay, we do have a caller here.
Martha in California, it looks like.
Martha, are you on the line with us?
Yes, I am.
Okay, Martha, would you like to ask a question?
Yes, I wanted to ask her if I would listen to her on the micro effect and ask a lady about goose bumps.
They were talking to people about having goose bumps.
Yes.
When I'm either teaching somebody or they hear me on the radio, if they have goosebumps, that means that what they're hearing is truth.
Their spirit is trying to tell the consciousness that's truth.
Okay.
Well, I emailed you.
I'm the one that has the ADHD real bad, and I have problems concentrating.
I did.
The light that I see, I've seen a white light that just overcome everything in my brain.
And the voices I hear, someone calling me.
Could you say something about that?
Yes.
Well, the light is the divine nature of the Father and Mother.
Or in sacred symbolism, it's referred to as the Son.
Not the physical son, just the light of God within your head.
And that means that your spirit is connected to that divine energy or that divine reality.
And the voices are probably the Christ's daughter or Christ's son.
Yeah, it's a lady.
It's a lady's voice.
Then that's the Christ's daughter.
Also, I was reading about the young man...
Now, wait a minute, just a second.
The Christmas daughter's Logos name known to everybody would be Maria or Mary.
Okay.
For the Christ Son, it's best known as Jesus.
Okay.
Okay, go ahead.
I was reading your...
I have a hard time concentrating, but for example, I was reading about the 17-year-old boy you helped.
Feelings come over me sometimes like that.
I could actually picture Him doing everything.
I was like going with Him while I was reading it, crying, the goose bumps.
Does that mean something?
Yes, that means that your spirit knows its truth and your spirit needs that.
Okay.
Thank you very much, Martha.
We've got another caller holding on the line, if you don't mind.
But thank you for your questions.
We've got Lance in Nebraska.
Hi.
Hi, Lance.
How are you doing?
I came in and I caught the very beginning of the show when you started talking, but I heard you say something about the three brains.
One of them was a reptilian.
And one was a mammalian?
Is that what you said, and the other one was human?
Yeah, the reptilian brain, that's the first brain, and then you have the mammalian first and second hemispheres, right and left hemispheres.
Right.
And then you have the third brain, which is the cerebellum, and that's what allows you to reason.
Animals can't reason.
They only have the first and second and reptilian brain.
Does that have anything to do with when you're first conceived in the mother's womb, you have a tail and you seem to have webbed hands and you grow out of that in the first couple of months.
It's almost like a human DNA kicks in from the reptilian DNA and you lose the tail and you lose the webbed hands and you become more like a regular human child.
Does that have anything to do with that?
Yes.
But usually when you transfer from Mammalian to human.
Let's say that if your last life before you transferred into human might have been porpoise or dolphin.
And by the way, porpoise, dolphin and whales and that species is the most advanced structure within the spirit and use of the brain when it transfers into human.
They should not be eaten.
I've heard something about that before, something like that before.
They just didn't grow.
Their physical bodies did not advance to having arms and legs, or they would probably be the smartest and most efficient and most spiritual.
Yeah, but they had to step into the human form.
Now, when I was in Alaska, I had an opportunity to regress one of a person, a young man.
He was having problems working his arms and legs, you know?
And he was a dolphin in his previous life.
His current girlfriend, who just was really taking care of him, was his trainer in that life.
Interesting.
And so he came back now as human because of the trainer and human interrelationship advanced him faster so he could become human.
Okay, well, thank you, Lance, very much for calling.
Thank you so much.
Just one more thing there, Kelly.
Carrie, one more thing.
Sure.
When dolphins and porpoises beat themselves, that's the ritual to become human.
Interesting.
Wow.
Okay, love.
Thanks, Larry.
Thank you so much for your time.
That's a fascinating idea.
Maria in Arizona is on the line.
Hi, Maria.
Maria, are you there?
Hi, Barbara.
Hi, Carrie.
Hi, Maria.
I'm wondering if you could address how we can release negative karma in order to not have to incarnate in this life again.
And what happens once we do that work?
What type of plane do we exist on?
I think you said...
What do we do with karmic liability?
Well, how do we get rid of karma in order that we don't have to continue to incarnate in this realm in order to clear ourselves?
Does that make sense?
Once you attain the upper rise stage in your evolution, you have access to what Jesus called the salvation program.
And that's where you can access...
And God will show you, He'll introduce you because you don't know in this life, your protagonist in past lives that you have a karmic liability with.
In other words, a vengeance on, say, two spirit beings in life.
There's a vengeance in one and that goes up to your books of life and then you come back together in about 200 years or every other life And you have to have an encounter for that resolution.
As that memory, it builds up a data file between the two of you.
And that will continue until it's resolved.
Now in the upper rise stage, you have the ability to access those memories between the two of you, enter the divine realm, remove the thought form that was created between the two of you, and then go to your book of life And you've pulled Excalibur and you remove him from your presence,
touch the point of the sword to the book as divine flame comes up, and that ceases all karmic liability programs with that individual for your future.
That has to be all completed, all karmic liabilities completed.
Otherwise you have to remain here.
Encounters that we have with other individuals, don't they build karma as opposed to, you know, removing it?
I mean, it seems like oftentimes when we meet these people that have the most to teach us, oftentimes they create more upheaval in our lives than they do clearings.
Well, you're not clearing it.
Right.
You may be interacting with that protagonist, but just because you say, oh, I forgive you, that doesn't get it.
I know.
That program is still active within your books of life.
So it's really difficult to clear.
It's more likely that we're going to create a deeper karma with particular individuals than it's likely that we're going to clear it and not have to interact with them again.
Well, if you enter the Divine Life program in this life, you awaken yourself to it.
You activate all your divine attributes and light nature within you that increases your IQ, intelligence, and reasoning.
All right.
Yeah, but realistically, let me just make this point.
Most people aren't going to be doing that.
I'm sorry?
But realistically, most people are not.
We're going to a break here.
I'm very sorry to interrupt.
Let's continue on the other side of this hour.
Thank you very much, Barbara.
Hold on, please, and we'll be right back.
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