I can't believe it, that we're actually going into 2010.
It's going to be an amazing, amazing time.
I think a lot of us signed up for this, and we're getting to the...
The crucial hour, so to speak.
And, you know, the stakes are high and we're just going to have to tune in and see what we've really got going on as far as the new year.
And so it's just really exciting.
I decided to do the New Year's show even though, you know, I could have thrown on a rerun, so to speak, and gone out and had some fun.
Actually, I'm going to go have fun actually after the show.
Luckily, it'll be over at At about 10 p.m.
Pacific time, so I have plenty of time to go out and drink my glass of wine.
I'm not much good at drinking, you know, drink after drink, but I can definitely do a glass of wine with some friends.
So, Happy New Year to everyone, and thank you if you're listening live, because that would be a real sign of dedication to Camelot.
If you're out there.
And I should have George Green, a very dedicated individual on the line.
Is he there?
I'm here, Carrie.
Happy New Year.
How are you?
Can you hear me?
I'm fine.
I'm glad you're going out and have a glass of wine.
That's good.
Well, I wish you could join me.
Yeah, I wish I could, too.
But you're up in Idaho.
It's got to be freezing, huh?
Actually, believe it or not, it was 40 degrees, and the sun was shining, and then instantly it turned black, and they're telling us we're going to have, whatever you call it, freezing rain coming in.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
So I'd rather be down there with you where you're suffering in that 60-degree or 70-degree temperature, right?
Exactly.
Well, I consider it kind of cold tonight.
But, you know, it wasn't bad today.
It was pretty nice and warm.
I mean, in L.A., we actually get some very hot weather during Christmas from time to time, but this has not been that warm of a year.
So, you know, the climate change is doing its stuff, even in L.A. Yeah, wait until next year.
Right, there you go.
Well, you know, George, I have to tell you that I got some other guests, and I know you're going to save my life by being on as long as I needed you, so I can let you stay on with me for a half hour, but I can also keep you on for the whole hour if you want to chat with Dr.
Waterman, who is an ex-Special Forces guy.
He's a health expert, and Waterman is not his real name.
I don't know if you know each other.
But he's going to be coming on at 7.30 in a half hour after you and I chat about your update.
But I'd love you to stay with him and maybe chat with him because I think the two of you might have some things to compare, some notes, and so on.
But it's totally up to you, whatever your plans are for the evening.
I'm available.
Wonderful.
Okay, so what can you tell us?
I know we've got some people, you know, that are wondering exactly what we're looking at.
I know we've got some pretty intense stuff going on.
Some people are saying mid-January that we may have that bank holiday you've been sort of telling us about for quite some time.
What do you think?
What's going on out there?
Well, Kerry, the problem is you and I, as we've been discussing off there and everything else, know what's coming down.
It's the timing, and the problem is the manipulation that's done by the Plunge Committee, if you want to call it the Federal Reserve.
These people are manipulating the money so bad right in front of the people, and if you notice the last month on television, there's nothing that's been said about Iraq or Iran at all.
All they're talking about and keeping people's attention On all of the new programs they're doing in Washington, D.C., at the Lincoln Center, and now for the next two weeks it'll be the Super Bowl.
The truth is they don't know what to do, and they're in real trouble because the debt keeps going up.
Today, kind of this week has been bewitching day, or bewitching week on the metal markets, and they've been trying to cover themselves.
So I think beginning next year, gold and silver are going to start taking off again.
Because they can't cover the things that are down.
The Treasury is starting to issue gold coins.
They haven't been able to even get some.
They had a bunch of little one-tenth-ounce and quarter-ounce that they made, and they sold out in one day, to give you an idea.
That was the U.S. Treasury, you know, the American Eagle.
That's incredible.
Yeah, absolutely.
This week I've been with three legislators.
And we've been discussing the coming collapse, if you want to call it.
And I don't know whether it's mid-January, more likely February to March.
The reason is because everybody's going to be stupefied and trying to figure out what to do with all the changes coming down on their credit cards.
I don't know if you've noticed, but most of the credit cards have jumped from the old 9% rate up to 15% to 25%.
This is the normal consumer.
Really?
No, actually, I haven't noticed that.
I try to pay my bills so I don't have anything, you know, mount up on me, but that's important information to be aware of, for sure.
Well, not only that, the stores that are up in credit cards, to them, they're arbitrarily increasing their rates.
I have a card, for instance, with, you know, Best Buy for computers, and I just got notified that the rate will go as high as 40%.
For somebody that has a credit card, they're buying equipment and stuff to them.
That's incredible.
I mean, I don't understand.
Is this stuff legal?
Oh, yeah.
It's all legal.
They can do whatever.
That's the new banking rule that's going to come out, and they're going to be telling these people.
The problem is that most people have been living on credit cards.
We've got the reports that come in tonight.
I'm just talking about this is the last day of the year.
Fourteen percent of the houses in the United States are 60 days or more behind in making their payments, Carrie.
Fourteen percent.
We have a million houses that have gone into foreclosure this last year.
One million of them?
Half of them were rescued by the government and they've gone back into foreclosure.
Believe that.
Because there are no jobs out here.
That's the biggest problem.
It's like where you are, there's a big thing on YouTube right now showing all the houses up in the valley, up in the desert, the high desert up there.
Whole subdivisions that have been taken back and their banks are just bulldozing them down.
Brand new houses.
Because you have to have jobs.
Yeah, I know, but it's happening all over the country.
Meanwhile, Schwarzenegger et al., People are trying to get a loan from the government to stave off the bankruptcy of California.
Well, meanwhile, people are really concerned on how to preserve their money.
So every kind of Ponzi scheme in the world, Madoff Plus, they won't go into detail on who's involved with that, but many of the big money people who were involved in the communities were given the money because they were offering high returns.
Well, Kerry, you've got to be a businessman and be logical about this.
If businesses, and you can go to any paper and look what the returns on investment is, like for instance in Walmart, and they're lucky to make 1% or 2%.
So how can you expect to get a return of 10% and 20% if the biggest companies in the world are only working on this 1% and 2% return?
Does that make sense to you?
No, not at all.
Well, but that's what's happening.
People are offering you high returns.
Well, the bank today, by the way, U.S. Treasury's interest rates went up again, another quarter percent.
So they're about 4.25% on a 10-year loan.
Well, that means that super safety, theoretically, is the U.S. Treasury.
The only problem is that they leave out what I call the silent killer, and that's inflation.
Now, you can't tell me that you think inflation has been less than 4%.
I mean, have you been to the store lately?
This is the problem.
Prices are going up, right?
Yes.
Everything is going up.
Now, because of what's happened after the Christmas, we got rid of a lot of inventory on the ocean right now.
All of the big ships that carry merchandise are sitting there maybe 25% or 30%.
They're spending $20,000 to $30,000 a day just on fuel to keep the ships going.
They can't unload anything because they can't get paid for the inventory that they have aboard the ship.
It's interesting.
When you have the year-end sale, how come all these stores were offering these 70% and 80% discounts?
Does that make any sense at all to people?
What are they doing?
How can they buy things for $0.20 on the dollar, for instance, and give you an 80% discount?
Well, they have to sell to get them cash in order to pay the interest to the loans or the people they have so they can get new shipments in.
So they're hoping everything's going to turn around miraculously.
In other words, this is going to be good.
The trouble is the whole planet is in the same boat.
The only one that's maintaining themselves relatively okay, and they're figuring the figures, is China at the minute.
Of course, the Chinese Premier two weeks ago told Obama You better keep the dollar strong.
And so they're artificially running it up.
But all the smart money is moving their money into, quote, Canada and Australia and Germany.
Can you believe that?
The German is probably one of the surviving places that you can have money going around.
China is upside down.
They've got foreclosures going on over there, and the government is subsidizing that.
But the trouble is, we're subsidizing in blue sky.
You saw what they did this week on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
They just gave them unlimited money in order to try to save off the foreclosure rates in the country to give you the appearance that things are running.
Well, here we've got another problem.
We don't have anybody with jobs, so how can they buy a house?
They just can't.
Exactly.
Isn't that right?
That's an amazing state of affairs.
Well, what I'm looking at is, for myself, I'm telling everybody, of course, obviously, to go into gold and silver.
I don't care what they are, because that's your storage of wealth.
I don't know what we're going to be using as a currency later, but I do have that world cash card in my pocket, so I'm going to have to show it to you, what they are going to set up on it.
There are talks about doing this, and there's also talks, and I've said this for a long time, about getting that war started in the Middle East.
So we've got to watch the Middle East pretty carefully.
The only problem is, and I've got confirmation of this, which is really scary, Kerry.
Have you heard about the book One Second After?
No.
You haven't, huh?
No, I haven't.
Well, okay, Newt Gingrich, he did the foreword to the book for a professor back on the East Coast who's researching, you know, the nuclear explosions at high atmospheres.
Okay.
And what has happened is that the EMF that's put off on them will shut down our entire communication system.
Totally.
In other words, it burns up everything in your computers, all the...
MasterCard, the Visa, the telephones, everything else that is run by wireless.
Well, actually, Henry Deacon warned us about that quite some time ago.
Well, I just got confirmation from some other guy.
I don't know what his name is.
Donald Rumsfeld?
I just got this today.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, oh, yeah.
They're very concerned about North Korea because they have the ability to go ahead and hit a couple of those off, which basically shuts us down.
We'll go back to, like, the 1920s.
Wow.
Very interesting, huh?
Yeah.
I have to say, now, you're aware that the military keeps, like, a redundant, old-fashioned system operating.
But it's not working.
Because they've known about this for quite some time, I think.
Oh, sure.
They've been trying to do that.
And that's all spelled out in the book called One Second After.
You can get it on Amazon.
I've been trying to get it for my people.
But, you know, it's kind of a weirdo deal.
But...
They go into great details on all the stuff that's coming up.
I mean, all my friends right now are looking at how to get, you know, a vehicle or something else that runs, because all of their vehicles will stop running, period.
Yeah, Henry Deacon again was telling us about that.
I mean, he was telling us this, you know, about three years ago.
You know, Henry Deacon is one of our whistleblowers.
I realized that.
I was aware of it, but right now the intergroup is very concerned about it because of what's going on, as you know, with North Korea and these other people.
They have the ability now to go ahead and explode it.
They don't even have to hit us.
They can hit it up in a high atmosphere, and just the EMF is going to take all that thought.
Well, of course, I'm concerned about what's going to happen this next year.
Now, next year, according to my sources, off-planet, this is the beginning of the escalation of all the geophysical things.
The weather, as you know, is totally out of whack right now everywhere.
I mean, they've had...
For instance, you know, I go back and forth to Ecuador.
Ecuador's had a drought.
They've actually shut down the power to some of the cities because they're all on hydro.
Well, the rainy season, fortunately, has started, so that stopped all of that.
And their food production's okay.
The country, however, to make sure it's not in that trouble, has taken...
They're one of their oil exporters.
They have taken an advance from China...
For one-third of their oil for the next three years.
Now, that coincides with, let me tell you two of the other problems that we have to look at.
Venezuela sold 100% of its oil to China for the next three years.
Now, we get a lot of oil, as you know, from Latin America.
Now, we get it vis-a-vis Mexico, but according to my sources, which is with Bechtel, for instance, They're telling me that the oil reserves in Mexico, the things will be basically out of it in two years.
That's 24 months.
So if they're out and we're importing 30% of the oil from Mexico, it varies by month.
Whether we get it from Canada or we get it from Mexico, we're still importing about 80% of our oil.
Now where are we going to get it from?
Because Russia is diverting everything.
China has taken it.
India has taken it.
Even Las Vegas.
And you're close to Las Vegas.
You've been over there.
You see all the water and the beautiful casinos out there and all that?
That's imported on trucks that come down from Canada.
Did you know that?
No.
I'm just giving you some new things to look at.
Okay, so now I'm looking at the average person.
We also have the next thing.
Ninety percent of the cost of your fruits and vegetables that are in the stores across the United States is transportation.
Transportation right now, as you know, is fairly inexpensive, except for the trucks themselves are shutting down clear across the United States.
They're in big trouble because of what's happened with the Mexican truck drivers coming up, and they're driving.
They're driving our truckers down.
Also, the produce and stuff we're getting now is also polluted because of what we've done environmentally.
We've added all the poisons to them.
All you get is these fruits and vegetables from Mexico or even California.
They're set up and they use all these chemicals in order to induce the growths on it, but a lot of the chemicals go right into the plants and in turn When we eat it, it comes right back into our systems and we're getting all kinds of strange new diseases.
No, we're doing it to ourselves.
But it's all set up on an environmental thing to basically collapse the United States, and that's what we're looking at.
Like you say, we could have a banking holiday.
I kind of doubt it.
I think we're going to have what is happening at this minute from my banking sources.
Again, I was with three state representatives this week trying to create a new currency, frankly, for the state of Idaho.
I've got all the new details on what they want to do, and they want to follow what they're trying to do down in Georgia and Oklahoma.
There are other states trying to do the same thing because they know the dollar is going away.
As you know, you can't use it anywhere in Europe except for in Switzerland, and that's because of the Bankers Bank, the Bank of International Settlements.
My people on the street in Hong Kong The traders on currency, if you come in from all the different countries, they won't take the dollar anymore.
What does that tell us?
Yeah, that's obviously the way it's going, but I don't understand if actually going to a new currency within a state, and that's what you're talking about, in the United States, right, on a state-by-state basis, is that really going to do anything?
Well, it only does it for the state.
All it's doing is the states are trying to look at it.
The representatives I've talked to, they said that Washington has lost its head and we're going to have to create our own...
This is a republic, right, made up of individual states.
Each state is trying to go sovereign, be away from the government when this thing comes down.
They're recognizing that the government can come in with troops, obviously, and you and I have talked about that before, But if the thing on the street right now, they're talking about the other countries to bring us to our knees instantly, we have to begin World War III. Of course, that's been planned for some time.
That's the reason I keep watching and see all the actions that are going on in Israel.
As you know, they're having troubles over there with Lebanon and all the rest of them again right now, and Iran.
Of course, that was the initial game to get Iran.
I mean, you have to go into currencies, isn't that right?
Yeah, you can go to EverBank in Florida and they'll take your money and put it into a basket of currencies.
I did wire some money to Canada this last week, believe it or not, but I had to show my driver's license.
Can you believe that?
Just to wire some funds.
I had to give the party's name.
It was like they had to have a, you know, like what they're doing right now in the aviation thing.
Because this guy was going to take the airplane down or I thought he was going to do that, it's almost going to be the same thing here when you go to the To the airport.
You've got to go through one of those bubble whistles and all that to check on everybody.
Well, everybody's going to get ready.
You watch them.
This is going to be the time.
It's coming up to get the new world card or the new ID card, which is going to let them pass or no pass.
But again, those can be made.
Okay.
Well, I want to announce here that we are going to be taking calls tonight, and people are welcome to call in, actually, Intermittently during the show, because it's New Year's Eve, we want to make things pretty open for the listeners out there.
So if you have questions and you want to ask George, feel free to call in.
We will get Dr.
Waterman on at the bottom of the hour.
And then at 8 p.m.
we have Neil Freer, who has graciously agreed to come on the show at very short notice.
So I just wanted to throw that out.
But, George, what you're saying in terms of the situation in the United States and with the dollar, but also with maybe gearing up for war, I understand that there's also some threats going on in regard to Yemen.
Isn't that right?
That's correct.
Well, you have to understand there's like 60 countries at war right now.
Nobody talks about it, if you want to call it.
But look at the United States.
We have all of our troops overseas.
Today we've got some CIA people that were killed, as you know, overseas right now.
Half of our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq right now are civilians.
I don't know if you're aware of that.
We pay them $100,000 a year.
They're outside of our military.
Basically, they're getting killed.
They're doing the same thing.
Nobody reports any of that stuff.
And if any of our troops get shot, for instance, in Afghanistan, or they get shot over in Iraq, today even, or they're hurt, and they can't take care of them right now, they fly them to Germany.
I mean, if they don't die on the spot, they go over and they happen to die in Germany.
It's not one of the reported ones.
They're just one of the people that die.
It's one of these crazy deals that the thing is all set up on.
Let's keep your fingers crossed that they, even though socialized medicine sounds like a real good deal, with this new plan in there is basically, again, getting us all rounded up and our medical profession is going to go, well, I've got doctors right now that are so upset.
There's only 25% of the doctors in the United States belong to the AMA. They've all dropped out of it.
They're not going to support this thing.
Okay, so you mean they're not going to support this health care bill that they keep trying to push through?
Nope, they don't want to do it at all.
No, they're already hurting because of what's happening.
Well, I mean, you're talking about basically a New World Order kind of a surveillance situation that's being set up using health care as an excuse for that, right?
That's one of them.
See, we've got too many different ways.
You've got a diversion now.
They're going to tell you on the airplanes all you have to do is get a new card.
We're going to be cross-checking.
Every one of them on the talk radio programs now, what do they have?
They've got people talking about how the different political agencies that are set up for overseeing people need to have more information and data.
And they're telling you you've got to come back to the individual citizen.
So you've got to open yourself up.
So what else do you get this next week?
Well, you get a letter from the IRS, right?
Everybody.
Or they're going to start getting their income tax statements that they're going to have to...
Right.
And that's going to be an interesting dynamic because if people can't pay their house payments, they're not going to be paying income tax, right?
I mean, that's kind of like a no-brainer.
So this coming April, we could have a lot of people defaulting in that regard, right?
I'm going to have an article by Phil Hart, who's a state representative who wrote the book.
It was a constitutional income.
The article he has is going up on my website right now.
If you're paying income tax, something that's taken out of your withholding, it's not legal, and he's going to tell you that.
Now, this is a state representative that has sued the government.
Show that.
The people that are interested, they can go to the website and get his book.
We send them a free copy of From Freedom to Fascism, Aaron Russo's video that explains all that stuff, too.
It's an interesting scenario.
Taxes are not coming in.
They're not even coming in for California.
The people are obviously not paying their mortgage payments.
They're not paying their taxes.
The cities themselves are going bankrupt.
They're laying off the firemen.
They're laying off the policemen because they don't have the money to come in.
It's a non-ending situation.
We're just going downhill quick.
And what is the solution?
A diversion has to get World War III started.
I'm just, you know, I keep saying that.
Okay, but that's not, I mean, you and I know that that's not going to solve the situation.
I mean, you know, it's obviously the United States is, they're trying to take it down, but there are also white hats that are actually fighting against that.
Isn't that true behind the scenes?
Well, let me give you an illustration.
I remember I was with what I call the hard money people, the representatives, this week, and they were discussing.
They said, for instance, in our state, where I'm at right now in Idaho, there's 135 roughly.
There's only 20 of them they consider real people.
The rest of them are all bought and paid for.
In other words, they're going to go along with it.
Yeah, we have people out here like Ron Paul that's going out and trying to get people organized.
And he's got everybody signed up to let the Federal Reserve go ahead and show something.
But the trouble is they may be able to show the information, but they have no enforcement to show this Ponzi game.
And the average person down the street thinks that the stock market, which is being totally manipulated, is their security.
But that's where their savings are.
That's where their retirement is.
That's where they tell them to put their investments in, in the stock market.
And the stock market does not make anything.
That's just a legal gambling casino.
It does not produce anything.
Right.
Well, I mean, we're really talking about two different kinds of audiences.
I mean, the one is the Camelot audience, which, you know, one would assume that they're hip to this.
And basically, the stock market has been extremely suspect for many years now, you know, for this sector.
But then you've got the average person who listens to CNN News, for example, and believes what they say.
And that's a whole different ballgame with those people, because those people are going to be really shocked.
So I think the coming year is going to bring, you know, changes that, for some of these people, we've basically been expecting some of these things, right?
Well, Carrie, you know, your audience, and I know...
When I go not lecturing right now, what we're running into is more and more of the 100th monkey principle.
All of a sudden, people are waking up.
So we go out and we're really speaking to the choir.
When your audience is out there, all I want to do is be brought up to date pretty much.
Now, you have new ones that are listening in.
As a matter of fact, I have now put up on my website, I think as of today, a lot of the interviews I've done with you and other people are all up on my website so they can look at the past.
That's great.
That's ideal.
Well, we're obviously going to commercial.
We're going to be back at the other side of the bottom of the hour, and then we will also be bringing on Dr.
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Hi, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we're on the air on New Year's Eve.
We've got some people holding that are calling in here, George, and I've got some more questions for you.
I do appreciate you staying with us.
And we've also got Dr.
Waterman holding on there.
So let me take one of the callers and let's go on from there.
So the first one is Maria in Florida.
Maria, are you with us?
Yes, I'm right here, Carrie Cassidy.
And to you and George Green, thank you so very much for all that you do.
But I have two short and quick questions here.
And the first one is...
The world population is at 6.8 billion, roughly, and I guess 5% is approximately 340 million people, which would equal a critical mass 5% of this population, 6.8 billion.
Number one, the first question, do both of you, do you think we're at a critical mass yet?
And my second question is, since waking up to To what is not true and what just might be true, whatever my whole awakening, there have been two words that have just totally resonated with me and it's taken about four years to get to both of these words and the first one is love.
And love is very significant.
The second word is simplicity.
Is there any other word that might resonate with you that is not love or simplicity?
And those are my two questions.
Let's go to the first one.
The population of the planet is increasing by over deaths of about 200 and some thousand a day.
If you go to my website, you'll see that.
The Earth's carrying capacity, according to my off-planet people, it was engineered originally for 500 million people, so we're about 12 times the limits to stay in balance, and we're totally out of balance.
When you go to the second question that you have, A number of words, a word that you can look at.
What you want to do at this minute is just meditate and ask for guidance at this point.
I wouldn't use a word.
It's the thought.
It's the thought to ask for the highest and best good for mankind right now and ask for assistance because whatever we've been doing isn't working.
The fact that we are off balance, you don't feel that we've reached the critical mass in terms of awakening?
No, we have not reached critical mass.
We've gone to the point now where we're self-destroying ourselves.
It's an automatic thing.
It's not that the Earth can't sustain more, but it's like peak oil.
Now we're consuming more than what the planet can reproduce itself.
Like anything else, it'll die on itself.
We're just killing ourselves off.
Okay, but George, I think what Maria is asking is whether or not you and I have reached an awakening, you know, a massive awakening people that is a kind of a critical mass out there because there is a certain number of people that need to wake up on this planet in order to turn us around.
I know what you're getting at, and I didn't understand the question.
There was supposedly the 144,000, the old game, that we got enough to change everything over.
I can't answer that, except for I will tell you from the off-planet people, my source is there.
That's in the fourth book, The Little Messages to the Ground Crew.
The answer is they said there are too few of the people waking up and taking power to make any significant difference.
In the days ahead, and they're urging us to get together with other people of like minds to support each other.
Okay.
Thank you very much, Maria.
We're going to go to the next caller.
We do have somebody else holding, and Happy New Year to you.
We've got a Deborah in Florida.
It looks like Florida is on the line tonight.
Go right ahead.
Deborah, are you with us?
Oh, yes, I'm here.
Thank you, Carrie.
Can you hear me?
Because I'm calling from Skype.
Yes, we can.
Hi, George.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you.
Good.
I feel really honored that I'm actually able to talk to you on New Year's Eve.
You know, tomorrow is going to be 2010, the beginning of.
And whether you know this or not, George, you probably do, but 2010 is going to be a hell of a ride for everybody on planet Earth.
It's going to be a doozy.
It's going to be huge.
Anyway, my question is...
You talked earlier about World War III, and there are over six billion people right now on this planet, and we're all creating our own probabilities.
And it seems to me, George, that you have sold yourself into this possible scenario of World War III. I'm not buying that.
I don't think the rest of us are buying that.
And you may be all alone living this World War III with the rest of the power What do you think about that when we're all going to be creating a much more beautiful world?
I'd like for you to be a part of it because you're a beautiful person, but I think you've sold yourself into this possible scenario of a World War III. No.
Look, I bless you for hoping that that's going to be the end.
I was hoping the same thing that you were expecting.
Let's get these people to stop it and change it around and get the planet back in balance.
You have to understand, I actually sat in on meetings.
As Kissinger said, the number one problem on the planet, we've got too many people.
I sat with other people and they said, how do we reduce the world's population back down?
The end result, this is after several hours and a couple of days and plenty of planning, They said we're going to reduce it by all means necessary.
So the hierarchy that basically controls our economic system and about everything, I mean the 13 families that control the world, are all aware of this.
Why do you think they erected that monument in Georgia, the Georgia Guidestones?
That's to let people know what they've got planned.
When I got involved with this thing, this has been like 20 years ago, I said, we have to stop this, so of course I wanted to make a movie to expose it.
Well, there's not enough people that are changing it.
Even my political friends, like I said, I've been this week with three different legislatures, and they all are aware of the problem, and they all agree there's too many people, but how do you change it?
Again, it comes back to an understanding of who and what we are.
And a much bigger picture, actually.
But let's go on to...
Okay.
Well, thank you very much for your input there, Deborah.
And at this moment, I think we should bring Dr.
Waterman on the air with us.
Dr.
Waterman, are you there?
Hello, Kathy.
Hello, George.
Hi.
Carrie.
My name's Carrie.
That's...
Oh, did I say Kathy?
Yeah, that's okay.
Carrie!
I'm sorry.
It's okay.
It's pretty close.
I was over here to tell you who I'm talking to, wouldn't it?
I'm sorry.
That's okay.
So, George, have you and Waterman ever talked at all?
Not that I'm aware of.
No, we've never talked, but some of his cohort courts up in Montana and Idaho have said, I need to meet with George.
So, George, I guess we probably ought to get together.
Well, whatever.
We'll try to help people.
George, Dr.
Waterman, and this is not his real name, has a Special Forces background, but he's also a natural path.
Is that how you say you're a doctor, but you're basically a natural healer?
I'm in alternative medicine.
I'm in what's called biological medicine.
Not anymore, but I was a professor of pre-med and nursing.
I'm pretty much on the same path that George is on, I hope, trying to make community happen.
I got ready for tomorrow's show.
I have the Waterman Files and put together some predictions.
Now, I've not walked into my predictions with fear.
Because I think we have answers, and George knows those answers.
He's been working on them, too.
So I'd like to say, you know, I don't think George or I have bought into any fear or any conclusion.
I think we have hard times ahead, and I think they're going to get really hard before they get better.
Ultimately, I think you'd ask George, well, what's the ultimate outcome?
I think he and I would probably agree.
I think it's ultimately going to be good guys win, But it isn't going to be an easy ride.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I think we also need to honor the people that are out there stating the truth of this current situation because it doesn't do for people to just sort of kick back and ignore the reality around them.
And that's part of beginning to co-create a new future is knowing The one, you know, the path we're on at the moment.
Wouldn't you say, George?
I agree with you, and I agree with the doctor.
Whatever we're going to create, we've got to come back to the natural healing method, though, frankly.
The medical profession is, the medical practice is what it is.
It's gone down the tubes now.
It's all controlled by the insurance companies, which control the pharmaceuticals.
Yeah, and Dr.
Waterman has been instrumental in waking people up in terms of the basis of what's going on with various H1N1 and what they've been trying to do.
He's done a lot of investigative work and actually put himself in danger in the process.
And he was head of the Patriots, the militia movement, at one part.
I'm not sure.
Were you the head of the West or were you the head of the entire United States?
What were you at one point?
Militias are broken down by state.
When you're at the command structure, it's at the state level.
When you go from state to state, you have people talking and coordinating with each other from state to state, but it's at the state level.
Some states are more proactive, much more organized.
And some just aren't at all.
And you were head of which state then, militia movement?
Are you liberty to say?
I mean, I'm not sure.
No, I couldn't because that'd identify me.
But I was a state commander and it was on the west side of the Mississippi.
I'll just give you that much.
But yes, you're right.
One of my predictions happens to be about the pandemic situation.
So...
We do have some real important things coming, I think, that we need to deal with.
And then besides the fact that we have the Earth changes, when I was working on the Stardust project with NASA, we found out some other very enlightening things.
Of course, it's all compartmentalized, and you kind of have to read between the lines to get all this kind of information, even when you're working on projects.
So, George has also an aerospace background, don't you, George?
Way back when?
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I definitely was there, too.
Well, I think that kind of pushes a person down the road to, if you're open and you're trying to go down that road with the right heart, you're going to easily see their agendas.
I don't think it's anything secret about JPL Labs, NASA, and my project, which was through Berkeley University.
It's pretty much an agenda, a hidden agenda at that, too.
But if you're trying to look between the lines, you'll see the story.
Well, George, I mean, I don't know if you know George's story.
Have you ever seen his interviews on our site?
Yeah, yeah, I sure have.
I've had that opportunity.
Okay, so you know about him, his basic background and how he saw a UFO in the hangar and so on and so forth?
Right, right.
And by the way, I do have some...
I do have some documents that you might want to take a look at.
They're kind of old.
They happen to be the salary of your little forms you get, the 1099 forms at the end of the year, and who it was sent from, and some documents showing some sketches.
I can't give you any photographs, but some sketches of some crafts that were in S4. It might be of interest to you here later this next few days.
Okay.
But I'd like to kind of kick around some of my predictions with George, see what he thinks about it.
Okay, go right ahead.
Go for it.
All right.
George, I've said the dollar is going to probably go to one-third its current value by maybe fall next year.
What do you think?
Well, I think you're pretty close on it.
I'm concerned the first three months.
Frankly, the market shouldn't be over $3,500.
I've got a lot of people now calling me and they're saying now it's going to go down to $4,000.
Well, we're back up to $10,000.
But that's the Plunge Committee playing around with people's pension funds.
You don't have enough money to pay against the government.
And they've got to keep the illusion going.
But the rest of the world is saying no more.
They're not going to loan the money.
So I think that's going to collapse, and I'm like you.
The dollar goes away.
Right, right.
That's kind of what I think of any, you know, it's pretty much the handwriting on the bottom of the boot when you tip it up and drink out of it.
But is your number showing that it's like about 19% drop in value since March on the dollar?
Is that what you've got, or is it more than that?
No, it's more than that.
We're looking at that.
Okay.
You know, it's like the unemployment rate.
They tell you 10%, and it's really like 24%.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, I've got one here.
One of my predictions is there will not be any recovery of jobs, and shadow stats is showing unemployment at 22%.
That's depression numbers, I think.
We're already there in many states.
You're aware of that.
Right, right, right.
Well, let me give you my top two here.
Americans will attempt a bloodless revolution early next year.
By that, I know those that have woke up.
My number two prediction goes along with that.
Should that fail, a blood will spill.
I think your second portion will be that way.
You know, when I was in Washington inside the Beltway, You know, the guys that march on Washington.
Well, the guys on the side of it just consider those people out there marching just rabble in the streets.
They don't even care about them, because they have control of the military.
And we have the other problem.
One out of three people in the United States work for the government, so you know the government itself is going to keep its government employees going.
We've got half the population over 50, which most of those people are in general apathy.
Right, right, okay.
Well, let me ask both of you this, because we've been hearing all about the mounting up of troops in California, both along the coast and, I guess, in the south somewhere.
Have you been hearing that, George?
Oh, I've heard about that.
A lot of them, well, especially along the Mexican border, because the Mexican mafia has basically taken over all the cities along the south right now.
We're hearing the military is coming up, but we don't have that many people left, so I don't know where they're all coming from.
Supposedly, our military has put eight bases down.
Well, we heard they were Canadian troops, and I don't know, from overseas maybe.
You're hearing about this too, aren't you, Waterman?
Yeah, what I've heard is that Canadian troops are coming in for Operation Maple Leaf.
They've had to bring about 700 vehicles in on a train.
And it's going to be out there in the desert.
Well, this is parallel to Obama signing a new bill, or I shouldn't say bill, sorry, I didn't even come close to being a bill, an executive order giving the Interpol, and that was something I wanted to talk, George, about too.
Interpol has been given a workover on an executive order that Reagan put out, And it gave them almost carte blanche without ever having to respond to any authority in the United States.
And what I'm hearing from the contacts that we've had, and I'm retired from this commander position, but the contacts that I hear, which talked to adjutant generals and so forth, is that the Pentagon is in an internal turmoil right now,
and we have the ruling elite still trying to take and keep control And that there will be an attempt, but that the military will not turn on Americans.
That's what I've heard.
That's the same thing that the people talked about in our meetings when they're talking about population reduction.
So that's the reason why they have to get it from other countries.
Why do you think they've set us all up now?
We've become the most hated country in the world.
That's right.
Now, I don't know if this is right, George.
Do you know for sure, is Obama now head of security at the UN Security Forces?
I can't verify that.
The trouble is with me, when I talk to my CIA friends, CIA is crooks in action.
You know, they're all professional liars, so you really have to sort it all out.
Yeah, I'm pretty aware of that one.
Yeah, that's pretty true.
Yeah, in the front page of the New York Times today, they're saying, you know, talking about how the CIA is getting very involved in, you know, Afghanistan and conducting wars, basically.
Which, you know, I mean, this is, of course, a major normal type of newspaper, as we know, The CIA has been very involved in conducting wars and actually starting them all around the world for quite some time.
All around the world, right.
There's no difference to it.
Like I said, they're outside.
One of my friends was the head of the CIA for Latin America.
He said, we work under the back budget.
I said, how do you get paid?
He said, well, I'm going to retire.
I said, how do you get your money?
They say, they give us a rank of a major general so we get military retirement.
I said, I can't believe it.
He said, I mean, you're being funded by all the drugs you're bringing in.
He said, the American people are so asleep.
Well, and if they don't get enough drug money, all they have to do is print a little bit more.
I mean, they're in charge of the money.
Exactly.
That's right.
It goes all the way around, but how do you explain that?
You know, it's like Bo Grice.
I was running around with Bo when he was trying to tell people.
So, you know, it's a crazy world out here.
Oh, yeah.
Well, then that goes back to...
The bottom line, then, is early next year I'm predicting that Obama's going to make a big move to disarm America.
Because, you know, there's 450 million guns out there.
We have, I don't know how many million, 40 million ex-military that have been in combat.
They're not going to put up with this.
On the new internal revenue form, you're supposed to fill in, that's my understanding, the new IRS form, your new tax form.
If you have a gun, you have to label it.
Oh, geez.
Incredible, isn't it?
Label it how?
I don't get that.
What do you mean you have to label it?
Identify what you have.
Oh, in other words, you put that on your taxes?
On your tax return?
Well, George and I will have to put our...
Yeah, if you understand it's a voluntary tax form, so if it's voluntary, then maybe, you know, just have to understand that.
You have to read Phil Hart's book, It's a Constitutional Income, and you'll get another understanding of it.
Yeah, obviously.
Well, we're certainly going down the rabbit hole at this point.
Okay, we're going to commercial.
At the moment, we're going to bring on Neil Freer.
Both of you are welcome to stay on with him.
He is a fascinating mind and...
We could have some interesting discussions, but again, it's up to you whether or not you have other commitments or whatever.
Jerry, I have a state representative who's going to show up in two minutes, so I have to leave you.
And I wish you and all your listeners a Happy New Year.
And stay tuned to Project Camelot for what's coming up.
All right.
Thank you so much, George.
God bless.
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