Okay, so tell us about Okay, well, the men in black phenomenon.
The men in black, yeah.
Part of it is a psychological operations unit within Majestic.
And they operate to scare people away from things that they've seen that they don't want them, you know, further bringing information out in the population of the so-called giggle factor.
or anything above that, they attempt or have attempted, I don't even know that they're still in operation, to suppress.
Then you have the real McCoy.
The real McCoy is not human.
Amen.
The real McCoy is in fact a P-45 J-rod.
They are using, through the use of some sort of sinuous biomechanical technology, the skin of a dead human.
Wow.
It is a dead human.
These are the ones that walk up to you and they look like they're shuffling, like they've just filled their drawers.
When they speak through this technology that they have wrapping around them, they sound very bland, very monotone, and they don't belong.
You can tell very quickly that they don't belong.
Have you met one?
I've met several.
They were operating around my work at Sun Chase before we were moved to a different location.
Yes, they were very sallow in appearance.
They thought that it was an appropriate expression to sing me happy birthday one year over at, I think it was the start of 2003.
It was either 2003 or 2004.
03, I believe it was.
Yeah.
And I did not like being around them, and they will not think twice put these force on you.
They will hit you.
They will push you.
One did me.
Marcia, not that long ago, got her fill of both types.
Both the psychological operations people who attempted a few years ago to scare her off Those were human beings.
They were just striking fear in her.
And one actual real McCoy nib.
And this thing, I actually saw it first.
It wandered onto...
They get confused easily.
That's a good thing.
Wandered onto our property, where we're presently living.
And I was walking home from her apartment at the time, and I thought a child was swinging on the swing.
There's a swing set out in front of my apartment.
The closer I got, I thought that it was a little older kid wearing black.
Then I noticed it had a hat on.
And he said, swing, fun!
He was lost in a memory, apparently, of the person that he was wearing.
And I looked at him and got very afraid inside because they carry weapons.
They can be killed with weapons, too.
He was not supposed to be on our property.
Our security did not do its real job.
We're not worried about the two-legged real humans that just walk around.
It's these things.
So he was the size of a child?
Is that what you're saying?
No, he was...
I thought it was a child on the swing set as I was walking up.
It was past dusk.
It was dark out there.
So he was a normal size?
He was a normal size.
Man.
Full-grown person.
Yep.
He was wearing all black and a black preacher's type hat.
Round brim.
How do you get rid of him?
Well...
Well, it would be very good if a person could actually...
I've got to be careful in suggesting that.
Because they are still human beings.
They took him into, security ultimately took him into custody.
I just want to be careful liability-wise of making a suggestion on how to get rid of one of them.
People could miscue and we wouldn't want to have a problem.
No.
Say, well, you know, Dr. Burrish said do this or that.
There shouldn't be that many walking around to worry about.
And it wasn't even sent there to deal with me.
It was sent there to deal with her.
And it found itself apparently lost in a memory in the swing set.
And I said, good, swing to it.
And inside I'm going...
Walked in, keyed the door to my apartment, Hoping then that they were going to respond.
Went in and told my mother-in-law what was going on.
She looked out of the window and said, yeah.
She's been in a majestic family all her life.
She said, yeah.
Then the oldest got up, looked out the window and said, that's what one looks like.
It was her first experience seeing one.
I said, yeah.
And I said, Doris, go over here.
And I unlocked something, and I pulled something out for her.
And I said, while I leave here, because I'm going to do the hurt bird routine, lead it away.
Because, I mean, there was three kids in there.
I said, I don't know what its intention is.
is it may have a lethal intention here and it's just presently lost.
As soon as it gets done swinging it may pull a weapon out.
So if it comes near here, defend yourself and defend the kids.
Meanwhile, I'm going to grab something else.
Yes, I grabbed a weapon, and I'm going to try to lead it away.
By the time I had the second weapon out and was armed, it was walking off already toward her apartment's direction.
So I said, okay, well, I still have to get it in case And so I walked toward it.
Past it.
Walked clear by it.
And it just continued shuffling ahead slowly up the sidewalk, gradually toward her apartment.
Got over to her apartment.
I said, where in the hell is security?
So we were pushing buttons over there.
Nobody's responding.
Got on the radio.
Nobody responds.
I said, you have security.
She said, a MIB, and I said, an ET. I said, they are dangerous, as you're well aware, but it was her first experience with something like this.
I said, come here, look, it can't possibly, and I wanted to make sure that it wasn't walking back toward my apartment where the girls were.
I said, it can't possibly have reached here by now.
I mean, it's walking slowly.
And so she came out with And she didn't see it initially.
It was hidden like in the recesses of the light as it was walking up in one of the shadowed areas because now the lights had kicked on the exterior of the buildings and all that.
And I walked up onto the sidewalk and saw it and I turned my back on it at that point.
They don't run.
I turned my back on it and I said, you may want to be going that way to Marcy.
And she said, because she's not the faint of heart, a female, she said, why?
And then she saw it over my shoulder and laid her first eyes on an ET. And her eyes got about that big, which is the normal reaction.
And she walked.
To give you some credit, she actually walked from there back toward the corner of the building before I saw her break into something more than a walk.
She walked away from it.
By then, I'm still standing there and this thing walked by me.
Now I'm wondering Why it's here.
And I said, hi.
And it turned this close to me and said, hello.
And then just continued to walk.
Walked right past me like I wasn't even there.
Toward her.
And I thought, well, okay.
It has an assignment.
We don't know what the assignment is because it will not give up its intention behaviorally before it carries on its assignment.
And I wasn't sure if it was armed or what, so Again, this is how slow it is shuffling.
It walks like it's got poop in its pants.
They are clearly not comfortable in the skin.
I walked by it again.
Now I have made certain adjustments to the firearm I had on me, because I was figuring that whatever was going to happen, it was going to happen fairly soon.
And if it pulled a weapon out, I was going to do what I learned in the police department, and do it well.
For probation.
Got back to her.
Got all the way into her apartment.
Locked the door.
I then said, I said, you go get your gun.
If it pulls a weapon out, you've been a former cop too, do what you do.
Do it well.
By that time we were both shaking.
Figuring, you know, it was going to turn into something very bad.
It sat down on the stairway outside of her apartment and it had a bag with it.
It was a black bag of some sort and I didn't know what was in it.
It could have been anything.
And it just sat there.
Then it got up and it walked past her apartment.
Now I'm looking at her like, "What the hell is this?" Still no security.
Finally after it had made its way all the way to the basketball court area, it stood there and looked around still confused.
Security came up with its weapons drawn and took it into custody.
Put it in one of the vans and off it went.
They cuffed it.
It was like a human being would be cuffed and they took it.
She got a couple photographs off She stepped out onto her porch and she took a couple photographs.
It was a disposable camera.
I found a disposable camera.
It was up on the bookshelf near the door, and I just grabbed it.
That's all I had in my hand.
She took a couple photographs of it, and we have since made those public on the Eagles Disobey Forum.
Those are real.
It's the real McCoy.
The best I could do, the enhancements that show one after It's not from the background.
Those are the best enhancements I could do because the original photographs that we put up there too, you saw, I mean, it was just basically jet black.
There was no carrying of the flash, and it was not set for, you know, night speed or anything like that.
It was an indoor-outdoor type daytime camera, a disposable camera, but it was all that was available.
Now, security took photographs and all of that, but they don't share them.
At the same time, I was doing my weekly reports, and I detailed it in my weekly report.
I had a weekly report to be made available, too, where I said the MIB was taken into custody and no one was injured.
But, yeah, he just walked onto a property.
Assignment, still to this day, unknown.
Well, following 20 years of service for the Majestic, last October the 12th, which was October the 12th, 2005, I was dismissed at the time of their adjournment to complete a final set of orders, if you will, to present the information which I had learned over the last 20 years concerning the extraterrestrial intelligences to the world or to whomever wanted to hear.
For the last year's time, we have been committed to a debriefing of my service since 1986.
And even actually before that, we've ranged to speaking about my early life as well.
We're hoping that within a short period of time, DVDs will be completed and this will be presented.
This will then conclude my service to Majestic with a very big relief and thank God.
Right now we are presently in the middle of several different projects, inclusive of which is Project Lotus, which has basically been dispatched and dismissed to me after the years of service as well.
Do you mean it was turned over to you?
Well, it's been turned over.
I don't think that the folks from the former Majestic are continuing to research it all.
I really don't think that they want anything to do with it after the problems that we've had and associated problems at a couple different facilities involving, we'll say, extraneous energy emissions around the project.
Which have caused some damage to their equipment.
Well, to back up a tiny bit, could you tell us what is Project Lotus?
Sure.
In May of 2001, we traveled to Frenchman Mountain here in Nevada to begin a A real project looking for a biomarker for a possible precursor virus.
It was a rather prosaic study looking for evidence for panspermia.
During the course of that initial investigation, we came across some anomalous activity in some of our datasets.
That anomalous activity was ultimately tracked down to Very unusual electromagnetic activity associated with silicon oxides.
And we have since tracked that anomalous activity to any silicon oxides present in minerals.
To wit, the activity is the presence of an emission of electromagnetic bundles containing information.
We are presently attempting to further define the nature of that electromagnetic anomalous activity.
But we have, in fact, determined that the activity is associated with cells within the terrestrial environment And that they have effects upon cells in our terrestrial environment, up to and including modifying the genetic material of extant cells in our environment.
Are you saying living cells?
Yes.
We have, together with these electromagnetic emissions that we have defined with...
Relative precision to date, to be specific varieties of what we termed as particles, we had to call them something, they're bundles of electromagnetic material, confined discrete bundles, that we believe are possibly related to as far back as the ancient Pavitrakas of the Hindus, subtle matter particles, which could be imparted into our environment and effect changes.
Thus far we have not observed negative changes meaning the effects of these subtle matter particles, if you will, have not affected our environment negatively.
But you have had interruptions as a result of those particles in anomalous activity, you said.
We've had anomalous thermal emissions when too much or too little energy was imparted to the silicon oxide bearing material.
We have had unusual drains of batteries around the activity.
I have not defined why, but there have been two phenomena associated with a lotus that have been particularly striking to me as a biologist.
We've had resets of cells which have occurred, and I say resets because I'm trying not to make it sound Frankenstein-like, where there have been heat fixed yeast cells Which have been used as offered, if you will, to this phenomenon as target cells.
And upon the receipt of material of these dead, heat-fixed yeast cells, we've had a restart of the cells.
And we have the photographic and the...
So they've come back to life, is what you're saying, as a result of this energy.
There has been a...
I really don't even like using those terms.
It's out of the book, off the edge of the piece, so to speak.
But we have had a restart of the cells in that location.
However, the cells which have restarted The dead cells are not the same functioning cells as the precursor yeast cells.
We don't really know what they are.
You mean, are you saying that the cells changed and they're functioning differently after being exposed to this?
Yes, we started out with essentially a fungal cell, a budding yeast cell, which we heat fixed.
And the result was more a termed, one would normally term an animal-like cell.
Really?
So it actually changed it from one thing, it actually transformed it from one thing to another.
It transformed it from one thing to another after imparting to it what we've come to call a template.
There is an actual imparting of DNA to the cell.
So we're receiving DNA essentially across some sort of an electromagnetic barrier through these what we call portals, these emissions of electromagnetic energy.
That then impart further discrete bundles of electromagnetism to our environment.
We're attempting to understand it.
We don't understand what we are truly looking at at the moment.
We've not fully defined the Lotus as a system.
Okay, but are these the Ganesh particles that are coming through?
We've defined three basic discrete varieties of particles that we have termed alpha, beta, and C-type particles.
The A-type particles were nicknamed Ganesh particles.
And that's what they are, they're nicknames.
We had to call them something, so we called them Ganesh particles.
Out of a historical deference, if you will, for the mover of obstacles.
And we call the portals Shiva portals as an opening or a changing.
These are the emission or emission centers, if you will, for these Ganesh particles.
And then we have still another variety of Particle, which we call Selkies, and Marcia actually named them.
These are C-type particles, and they basically act as almost like crossing guards, which line the periphery of an electromagnetic and magnetic stream that leaves these portals,
and basically act as Guards or guideways surrounding the Ganesh particles, giving them a pathway to a target.
Now the real question, I think, is how is the decision being made for a target?
And we've identified on these Selkies what appear to be acoustic antennae.
And I say appear to be acoustic antennae Because changes of input into this system, acoustic changes, affect the behavior of the Selkie particles.
Sound.
In other words, sound is affecting the Selkie particles, causing them to redirect the energy towards the target or away from the target?
Causing them to redirect their positions.
Which confine an electromagnetic stream or a river, if you will, being emitted from these portals.
And, you know, we've wondered what the portals are.
They might be micro wormholes.
We don't know right now.
And these are nano-sized portals?
No, these are microscopic size.
Somewhere within the 20 to...
Well, I'd be very transient up to 50, but around the 10 to 20 micron size, micrometer size.
And so they're observable quite readily under a compound microscope if the conditions are held constant and if they are treated delicately.
They're extremely transient phenomena.
In other words, you don't have a control over them?
No.
No.
And in fact, we don't do any direct propagations anymore.
The last direct propagation was done last November, and we received for the second time an anomalous growth of cells in the medium surrounding the crystal that we were using.
We were using a quartz crystal because of the silicon oxide nature of the quartz crystal.
And we received an anomalous growth of cells of unknown origin around the crystal.
So we do not know where these cells were from.
We've had that happen now twice, and we've determined that we're getting a little too good, if you will, at the science of propagating these portals, and we're possibly receiving a negative consequence as a result.
In other words, those could actually be an alien life form.
Indeed.
Okay.
Indeed, they could be extraterrestrial.
Cells.
I mean, they're microscopic, right?
Right.
I mean, we've received a mix of...
Very unusual cells which I was not able to cytologically type.
And also cells which appeared nearly prosaic to our ocean here.
Microscopic one-celled organisms, haptophytes.
But they came out of nowhere.
The material that we had provided To the experiment prohibited a cross-contamination, the ability for this to have been a cross-contamination.
So they came from somewhere.
They came from somewhere.
Also, what we've done is a repeat of a very famous experiment called the Spalanzani experiment with beef broth.
But we put a tweak on it, if you will.
And the Spelanzani experiments were experiments designed to either prove or disprove the idea of spontaneous generation.
And so the question is then begged, are we exhibiting spontaneous generation here?
And I think that we have zero evidence that this is spontaneous generation.
And allow me to explain why.
The Spallanzani experiment that we repeated, we did it exactly the way the famous experiment was originally done, with beef broth that had been boiled, but we actually had it autoclaved so that we had pressure and heat both acting on it, getting rid of all the spore formers, everything that could have been present in there as a living organism.
We left some open, some closed.
And then we did a closed and open experiment where we applied electricity and a silicon oxide bearing crystal to it.
And in the case where we had the closed study done, we received the growth of cells in that closed study, which appeared to me to be neural cells and organized neural cells to the point where we could actually tell morphologically that there was an ABAB pattern
which was developing.
I wouldn't say that I was in a panic But Marcia is nodding her head rapidly off the camera.
I was in a near panic to cease the study then and there so that we weren't accidentally producing something with sentience.
Wow.
Not my right.
That would have been an abomination of some variety.
I don't practice the tools of science Devoid of moral considerations.
Some nowadays, I think, have no problem, no compunction against that.
I do.
So the study was ceased immediately and the cells were photographed.
Yes, we have the photographs of them, but the study was ceased and it was killed immediately.
Okay, well this is really kind of earth-shaking information that you've got here.
Very humbling.
I'm getting it in a way that I understand it makes it very clear.