Emily Austin: Trump Removed From Colorado Ballot & Epstein's Black Book | PBD Podcast | Ep. 342
Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth, and Vincent Oshana are joined by Emily Austin as they discuss the Colorado Supreme Court banning Donald Trump from the 2024 Republican primary ballot, the upcoming release of 170 associates of Jeffrey Epstein, and Stephen A Smith's reaction to Minnesota Timberwolves star Anthony Edwards' texts encouraging an Instagram model to get an abortion.
0:00 - Is Tom Ellsworth is an ELITEST?
5:30 - Emily discusses backlash over her comments about Miss Universe transgender owner Jakkaphong Jakrajutatip
13:30 - Emily receives death threats following debate over Israel and Palestine with Nerdeen Kiswani
2343 - Lindsey Graham says that Israel must accept a two-state solution to resolve the conflict with Palestine
46:05 - Yemen's Houthi rebels attack commercial vessels in the Red Sea
1:05:10 - Colorado Supreme Court bars Trump from appearing on the state's presidential primary ballot.
1:19:29 - U.S. economist Harry Dent says 2024 will be the "biggest crash of our lifetime."
1:26:54 - Southwest Airlines offering free seats to obese people
1:34:10 - More media layoffs coming in 2024 according to The Wrap
1:42:22 - Stephen A Smith's reaction to Minnesota Timberwolves star Anthony Edwards texts being released encouraging Instagram model to get an abortion.
1:49:35 - 170 people with ties to Jeffrey Epstein will be named in court documents in January
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I think the opening line today for everybody to know is today, this morning, Tom came in prepared to piss everybody off.
He comes in.
One of our girls just got her master's and he's like, this is something these guys will know nothing about.
And he goes like this.
And he made a second comment, by the way, offending you a little bit.
I don't know if you caught that.
What was the second?
You don't remember that?
How he said it?
Very offensive.
But anyways, Tom, you okay today?
Tom, are we good?
Are you off like to a bad start?
Did you not have your wheaties?
Yeah, what happened?
What the fuck was that?
That's an elitist.
That was a Hollywood belate.
Anyway, all right, we got a guest today with.
I am fine, and too much is being made of that.
But you want to wrap it up for the next two hours?
Oh, you're Tom.
Don't go over Tom's trap.
Tom is actually officially pissed.
Tom wants to pay.
His buddy is.
No, Tom's been pissed since yesterday's PBD podcast prep.
Anyways, okay.
Today, we have Emily Austin with us.
Okay.
She's a professional shit talker.
We learn in the first 20 minutes.
She's capable, like witty right off the bat.
American journalist, social media influencer, model actress, and independent NBA broadcaster, born in 2001.
Maybe you're probably the only guest we've had that's born into 2000.
Yes?
Have we had anybody born in 2000?
I think she's trying to give you high five here.
No, no, no.
I'm not going to be left hanging.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought you were going like this, like, yay.
Give me one of these days.
Give me one of these.
Be careful.
The hand raises out.
So born in 2001 in the United States to Israeli parents, Emily grew up on Long Island, studied at Hofstra University.
Very competitive.
She joined the Israeli mission to the UN where she handles English communications and public relations, written all over the place.
Been on Fox with Gutfield.
It's good to have you on.
Thanks for having me.
Yes.
So the last couple months, you've been everywhere.
And Rob says, Pat, you got to check her out.
So we do.
And then Rob says, let's get her on the podcast.
And here you are.
Amazing.
Shout out to Rob.
Yeah, so we're going to go through a lot of different stories today.
Some of the stories I got, folks, we got Trump being banned from Colorado ballot, which we have to cover that.
We will.
Houthi attacks on commercial ships.
If you haven't seen the video of them coming down on the ship and a helicopter and what it's doing to the Red Sea, some of the data will cover that.
A lot of elitists with master's degree know a lot about that story.
And then we'll cover Russia tried to weaken Democrats ahead of 2022 midterms.
U.S. spy agency says that's a WSJ story.
China, Russia, Iran, and Cuba tried meddling in congressional elections.
Migraine surge is insane.
Rob, I don't know if you found that video or not.
Vivek, stunts.
CNN Van Jones, tell him to go shut the F up.
And then Graham will talk about Israel, some of the things that's going on right now with Israel, what they're asking, forcing both sides.
More media layoffs.
It's not looking good percentage-wise on the number of journalists being laid off is pretty nasty in the mainstream media space.
Fed official rate cuts.
Maybe we'll cover that.
Nip and steel to acquire U.S. Steel.
Tom, you got some updates there.
Southwest, did you guys hear about Southwest?
Is officially, folks, some good news is giving free extra seats to obese people.
What if I identify as obese?
Maybe you get three of them.
Okay.
Maybe you get three of them.
Maybe you get three of them if you identify.
That's a technical question we'll address.
I'm sure Tom will know the answer to it.
U.S. economist predicts 2024 will bring the biggest crash of our lifetime.
There's a little bit of fear porn when you read the story on what the percentage is.
Who said that, Robert Kioski then?
But Harry Daniel.
We'll cover it.
We'll cover it.
Stock market.
You guys may be surprised by this.
The performance of the stock market under Biden remains worse than Trump and Obama.
Very surprising.
Even with the Big Bounce.
But there's this thing called Biodynamics.
We'll cover that.
Bidenflation.
That's right.
Bidenflation.
Over one-third of companies will not give a year-end bonus.
I'll give you guys a story about when Trump tax cuts came.
That's a good story.
We're not doing any bonuses this year.
Only if you have to the community with masters, because you have to give answers.
Yeah, I got it.
Over 170 people with Epstein links, likely to be named in courts, docs, set to be unsealed in coming weeks.
A lot of people are nervous about this.
Then there's this Miss Universe judge.
Okay.
I don't know if you know her or not.
She was hit with death threats after debate against Palestinian activists.
And Miss Universe Judge said transgender contestant led to bankruptcy.
So let's start off with that.
I don't know her, but she sounds really hot.
Yeah, she is actually.
By the way, it took two seconds for Vinny to flirt with you.
How awesome is that?
I wasn't even flirting with her.
She came out.
Vinny, half the time, everybody thinks you're flirting with them, but we have to kind of category.
Name's Vinny.
It speaks for itself.
It's a natural flirt.
Okay, here we go.
Miss Universe Judge says transgender contestant led to bankruptcy.
Emily Austin attributed to pageant bankruptcy to outrage over transgender contestants, stating, I think the outrage about a trans woman coming to Miss Universe and preaching bring the power back to women couldn't be more of an oxymoron.
She expressed her belief that allowing transgender women to participate was both socially and morally wrong.
Adding people are starting to catch on to that.
Austin highlighted the financial issues faced by the company under the ownership of Thai Media Mogul and Trans Woman and can't pronounce the last name who purchased the rights to Miss Universe, Miss USA, and Miss Teen in 2022 for $20 million.
You mentioned the company's failure to fulfill a $12 million loan debt.
Anyways, we know the story here.
Give us a little bit of background with the story there and why you think this brand called Miss Universe 72-year-old brand is getting destroyed by this person here.
I mean, growing up, I loved Miss Universe.
For God's sake, when I was not even 18, I ran for Miss New York.
I thought it was the coolest thing ever because Miss Universe should be an example of what a woman should be to the world, like the prime example of a woman.
And when I say woman, I mean a biological one.
And everyone's been calling me transphobic and trans every nasty word you can possibly be called.
But it's quite simple, my theory.
And if you actually listen with your ears, you'll likely agree.
I don't care what you identify as.
You want to identify as a cat, so be it.
I think you're a weirdo, but it's not my problem.
But now you're crossing a boundary where you are threatening women's empowerment, which is what Miss Universe is preaching.
And you are saying this person who grew up a man never knew what a period cramp felt like, never knew what, you know, like all the awkward puberty things and awkward things that women have to deal with.
Okay.
You don't know what that feels like.
The same way I don't know what it's like to be like a man truly biologically.
But the fact that you want to identify now halfway through your life or whatever point and say, I deserve this more than a biological woman, now you're berating women.
And that's not fair.
Same thing in sports.
You know, in 2012, a video surfaced of Serena Williams saying, oh, if I played XYZ, she was speaking about a male athlete.
He would destroy me in five minutes, six, and he wasn't even the greatest.
She's the greatest.
He was a top 10 guy.
But yeah, you're right.
She's number one.
Without a doubt.
You know, biologically, I'm sorry, we are not the same.
And you can identify as whatever you want, but just stop pretending it's the same because it's not.
And that's what I keep saying to Miss Universe.
It's not the same.
The year I was a judge, there were no trans contestants.
I would not have been okay with that.
That was 2022.
2023, there were two contestants out of, I believe, 80 women or three.
Maybe they want to snuck one in at the end.
Emily, here's my question.
How is this small minority group just so protected and so they basically just do whatever they want?
And if you criticize them at all, you can't say anything against them.
Not even, you can't even be funny.
You can't even crack jokes.
Everybody turns on you and you get canceled.
I mean, I think that's our fault, not like us in this room, but it's our fault because we're allowing it.
Everyone's like, you're never going to make it because you're, you're, everyone calls me misconservative.
Nobody even knows my political values, which is funny.
You're against trans, you're against gays.
No, first of all, I make jokes about everyone.
I make Jew jokes.
I'll make like every joke to every community because it's a joke.
So relax.
But the second we start censoring ourselves because of their response, you're enabling them to cancel you.
Be uncancelable and you won't get canceled.
I know it's probably easier said than done, but why are we silencing ourselves?
Like, look at Chris DeLia, a comedian, right?
Yeah.
He was canceled so many times, but he's killing it on Netflix, on World Tours.
Like, he didn't let himself get canceled.
Dave Portnoy, every week someone's trying to cancel him.
Doesn't let it happen.
So why are we the ones censoring our own free speech in the best country in the world when we have it?
Just don't.
It's really that.
A lot of people are wearing being canceled as a badge of honor these days.
It's like, you know, once, twice, you tried, but you said that it's all our fault for sort of being complicit in this.
I would argue that it's women's fault.
Hear me out.
I don't know a lot of men, at least in those circles that I'm in.
And it's not like I'm in the left, I'm in the right, I'm everywhere.
I'm doing, I don't know a lot of men.
They're like, yeah, women should, men can totally compete in this.
I know a lot of women that don't speak out about this.
And they'll do, because I've interviewed countless amounts of women on this on my other show.
And the women, at least off camera, would agree, yeah, I don't really like this.
But on camera, they're like, yeah, I don't really want to talk about it.
So I think it's incumbent on women, like what you're doing, to stand up and say, no, I don't want you in my pageant, right?
Because when men say it, we will sound misogynistic or chauvinist or toxic.
But they're taking over your contest.
They're taking over your sports.
So I think it's important that women speak out more.
I agree with you 100%.
And when it comes to Miss Universe, people were challenging me hard on it because they were saying this is a pageant about looks.
Now, I thought so as well until I became a judge.
Once I became a judge, I really tried to listen to the interviews and be like, who has a story that's so inspiring that I want the world to hear?
And that's where I realized, okay, this is not about looks.
Because let's be real, the woman who wins is not the prettiest woman every year at all.
Okay, if it was the prettiest woman, it would have been Miss Columbia in my year.
She was by far the most beautiful I've seen.
Every year, by the way.
Every year in Miss Columbia is so hard.
Gorgeous.
And with that being said, you know, with sports and Miss Universe, I even think they're incomparable.
It's the same issue.
It's a common denominator.
But sports is just biologically, you're going to be humiliated if you play a transgender woman, aka a biological man.
Miss Universe, like Varney argued on Fox, no, it's about looks.
No, it's not.
It's never been about looks.
It's always the interview.
So, you know, you need a true feminism story, not like identifies it.
Looks is if it's not number one, it's number two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
That's the winner, by the way.
No, the winner is actually a girl from Columbia.
No, no, no, that's a good one.
That was 2022.
In 2023, it was actually a girl from Nicaragua.
She's pretty much chakra alert, friend of a friend, Shanice, from Nicaragua.
Classy, sexy, smart.
She crushed it.
And you know what?
Nobody's saying, we've mentioned on the show, Em.
It's why don't the trans community start this loud?
Start your own.
I'm always loved.
Start your own trans universe, trans league, trans sports, trans UFC, trans swimming.
Do your own thing.
Why are you trying to infiltrate everybody else's shit?
Have one, create, have a blue ocean.
Go create your own shit.
They're women, Vinny.
They're women.
No, they're not.
No, they're not.
Vinny, that's the logical end argument.
So there's truth in what you say, but that's the logical end argument.
The front end is what gets missed in this.
It is a leftist socialist Marxist agenda.
Find a victim and leverage it.
And if there is no victim, you have to create a victim.
And if you take a look at the opportunistic rotation of how leftists have taken victims and groups and leverage for what they want, what they want to do is drop the walls and undermine the traditions and the stability of the country.
That's the leftist agenda.
They don't care about trans.
So let's go take a look.
You go back and look at it.
George Floyd, it was overblown.
The whole part that was over, a guy died.
A guy died with a cop right there that day.
And there was a court case and everything that went with it.
But all the BLM stuff was sort of one side of the reaction was overblown because it was misinterpreting analysis.
On the other side of it, he says, why is the media jumping on this?
Let's focus on that.
The media was jumping on it because there's the victim.
There's the leverage.
There's the point.
Marxist social leftist agenda.
You have to find a victim and leverage it.
And right now.
These communities don't see that they're being a pawn in a bigger agenda.
How do you not see it?
They think it's my turn in the spotlight.
It's not your turn in the spotlight.
You're being used.
As a victim, which is not a great pain.
How is that enablement?
You're down.
You're terrible.
They've done this.
You're oppressed.
If you're oppressed, so they destroy your personhood.
They destroy your value.
You can't do anything yourself.
You need us to be working for you.
Wait a minute.
Be careful what they're working on.
They're not really working for you.
And you're going to rotate out next year.
Let's go to the next story here.
So, again, with you, Miss Universe Judge, hit with death threats.
I think you even called the FBI who reported this to the FBI.
After debate against Palestinian activists, you will be killed.
This is November 24th.
Emily Austin faced death threats after a heated debate with Palestinian activist Nerdine Kiswani over the Gaza conflict.
Kizwani, leader of Within Our Lifetime, United for Palestine, expressed support for violence against Israel and called for the vilification and expulsion of Zionists.
Austin described Kiswani's confrontational behavior during the debate, highlighting how Kiswani posted a picture of her with a red arrow over my head on Instagram and encouraged putting a bounty on my head.
Austin received death threats such as, I'll kill you and you will be killed in the next few days.
So tell us about this experience.
To be polite, Nerdine is one of the most disgusting, vile people that walks this earth.
And I'm disgusted that New York is not taking action against her.
Borderline terrorism going around the city.
For context, within our lifetime, is shortened for destroy Israel within our lifetime.
And that's their goal.
And it's not just Israel.
It's anyone who believes that Israel has a right to exist.
So now you are inciting violence upon anyone who believes Israel has the right to exist, which is most Jews and a lot of non-Jews too.
So with that being said, on our debate, I came with the fact she came with emotional screaming.
If I were her, I'd leave humiliated too.
And her and her vile group of Zionist destructors were posting like, target this company, target Puma, target this.
And she made a map of places to target.
And she put a photo of myself and Pierce with red targets overhead.
And she said, don't forget like these two.
Or then she said later it was a joke.
But I had congressmen and councilwoman and New York executives messaging me.
This is not a joke.
Like I'll help you report it to the FBI.
And I want to just really, really, really shout out the FBI.
I've called them at six in the morning.
I've called at one in the morning.
And they've always been available at every hour to check the credibility of these threats.
So some, they'll be like, hey, this guy's in Saudi Arabia.
Don't worry.
Then he's like, all right, this girl's on Staten Island.
We're going to check it out for you.
So, you know, initially, I wasn't even afraid.
I'm like, everyone's a keyboard warrior.
Everyone has something to say behind the screen and nobody does something in front of it.
But who wants to find out?
You know, so of course I hired private security and I'm like, I'm going into Manhattan.
This woman, Nerdine, this monster is terrorizing the city.
And now my face is so out there because of her.
Why should I take a chance when I see these people are burning trees, punching each other, hitting policemen?
They are hitting policemen.
What do you think they're going to do to me?
So I just wanted to take the safer route in higher security.
Emily, where do you draw the line on free speech?
Obviously, we're, you know, we're a fan of what Elon Musk has done with X, Twitter.
And, you know, I'm sort of a free speech absolutist.
I'm Jewish, but I've heard some vile, vile shit about me and just about Jews in general.
And, you know, but there's been no death threats.
So there's been no attacks.
So I'm the type of person that's like, all right, cool.
Thanks, buddy.
I'm fucked myself.
Yeah.
Where do you stand on this between free speech, hate speech, and actual, you know, calls for act of violence?
How do you distinguish between all those?
Yeah, well, those are distinguishable.
I mean, free speech, I'm a free speech absolutist too.
In fact, like, I don't like most things that I hear on a daily basis, but I can't start censoring things I disagree with.
Like, we'll get into the Trump ballots.
So you could say the most vile things about Jews.
Everyone's like, Hitler was right.
Hitler should have finished the job.
But if you start to even incite that you are going to take an action, like I will finish Hitler's job, that's already actionable.
That's already inciting violence.
And that's where I draw the line.
But free speech, you can say whatever you want.
And by the way, saying whatever you want doesn't mean there's no consequences.
If you're calling for Jewish genocide on college campuses, there should be a consequence.
The same way if I misgender someone on college campuses, I know there'll be consequences.
I mean, I laughed at my classmate who identified as a cat because that's funny.
And I got in trouble.
But if she said from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free of Jewish people, she would be fine.
So exactly.
You just use my word.
Why do you think there's such a double standard?
Whether it's fat phobia, gender phobia, transphobia, all that, don't, you know, don't offend anybody.
Taking it back to the point of view.
You know, if you call for I think it's because the Jewish people don't live in the victim mentality.
Back to his point.
Jewish people don't like, I mean, I'm not speaking on behalf of the Jewish people, but I'm assuming nobody should want to live in the victim mentality.
Listen, the Jews went through the Holocaust.
Throughout time and time again, the Jews are constantly being persecuted and they always prevail, whatever the reason is.
And, you know, the Holocaust was not even 100 years ago, and Jews are never looked at as the victims.
And I'm happy with that.
I'm okay with that.
But when it comes to like instances like these that we're seeing in present times, I've never seen an extent of anti-Semitism this bad.
But now it's like, I don't know if we're not vocal enough.
I don't know if we're not causing enough outrage.
I mean, we're not ransacking stores and burning down stores.
You mean Jews aren't beheading people?
No, we're not.
We're not causing global violence.
We're not doing that.
And that's not the right answer.
But I think because we're not doing what other communities do, maybe they're not taking it as seriously.
I mean, the fact that President Gay is still at Harvard is mind-boggling.
I was just going to ask.
Did everybody else get kicked?
MIT got fired?
Penny.
MIT has penned it.
Just pencil.
They claim that there's an internal review, but nothing else has been said.
I just probably nothing.
Everyone's already said it.
Just imagine she said that calling genocide on black people was okay.
Imagine someone said that and they stood by idly and allowed that to happen.
I wouldn't let that happen.
Like nobody should.
If you're a human being, there shouldn't be double standards.
But with the Jews, it's like, yeah, whatever.
Well, and there's actually something good coming at the end of this, and it's happening at Penn and Wharton.
Wharton, what most people don't know is underneath the surface at Wharton, it's fairly moderate, you know, like one tick over to conservative because that's the way they feel about capitalism, about taxation, the business.
Well, but it's a business school, but it also is an economic engine that's paying a lot of bills for the rest of the school.
Rob, if you could go to www.penforward.com, they apparently are up to 400 faculty that have signed this Penn Forward.
This is a framework to guide the university.
Scroll up and let's just read the first mission.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Intellectual diversity, civil discourse, political neutrality of the administration, institutional neutrality, and the university must remain neutral to scientific, respect and tolerance for who you are.
And then you go to the bottom, and the number of people that have now publicly signed this is massive.
It's massive.
And this is employees, tenured professors, and people at Penn.
So this is causing a good thing.
There's a groundswelling of people that says we're not afraid to speak up, but we're not just going to say, oh, you know, you're liberal, you're crazy.
What they're saying is, here's the framework that we think should embody an open, neutral center of education at higher education.
And so they're putting this forward.
And guess what?
The administration is having a hard time with this because the first shoe is dropped.
They moved the president out.
Yes, they moved her back to her law position, but they moved the president out.
And so I think this is actually a good thing that's forcing them at the administrative level.
Now, will the change come all the way down for students everywhere?
And Jewish students that are sitting there saying, my university president doesn't believe that these threats against me are bad.
Am I comfortable walking across the quad without security at 9 o'clock at night after going to the research library?
Students shouldn't be thinking about that, but those university presidents that were there did.
Second point, to your question, the price of free speech is pre-speech.
But the U.S. Civil Code, Section 2101, which has been absolutely unenforced, and you can find literally a thousand articles about this, says that inciting a riot is a crime.
It's the highest level misdemeanor crime.
In other words, almost a felony.
Remember when they turned misdemeanors into low-level penalties on Trump in New York City?
Yeah.
Well, this is the highest level of misdemeanor.
And it says acts of organizing, promoting, encouraging, or participating in a riot.
Advocating a position or belief in speech or writing without inciting violence is not a crime.
So the price of free speech is free speech.
You're going to hear things you don't like.
You heard that, Mayor Adams?
But this is that's right.
But this has been completely unenforced.
And you have lawyers and civil rights lawyers, liberal lawyers across the U.S. saying, you know what?
Cities are just choosing not to enforce this because there is out there, Adam, when you cross over and you incite a riot, the U.S. Criminal Code, Section 2101, is completely clear, but it said it's been horribly unenforced from Sea to Shining Sea.
And this is where you can jump in about Soros-funded district attorneys who just don't want to enforce it.
And by the way, you'd be right.
Yeah, that's what he's doing.
No, I'm just saying, Soros is obviously a very good breakdown, Tom.
That's very great.
And what you said, the question is: if that's really out there and lawyers know it, why are lawyers not using this to hold people accountable?
Property owner lawyers are trying to, Pat.
They're trying to come to the DA and say, these people incited a riot and they destroyed my shop.
It's $5,000 deductible for me and my insurance company's writing.
How come it's not a story that we know about?
How come it's not a story that's being talked about?
Because why would the mainstream media put the narrative?
Oh, these people have the right to demonstrate.
No, but Tom, if let's just say a lawyer, let's just say a group of lawyers are doing this and they're making this public so other people know about it.
That would be something people on the other side would be writing about.
So I don't think they're doing enough for people to be taking notice.
So if you're a lawyer and you know this exists and it's happened in your city, and if you're not a lawyer, go to lawyers and ask and say, Ha, come, what are we doing about this?
And the insurance company is writing checks.
Where are they?
Well, insurance companies are worried about being, because it takes a position if they do go out there and do that.
Now you're defending a side or the other side.
But okay, so let me go to this next story here that has to do with what we're talking about briefly on Israel.
Graham, Lindsay Graham says Israel will have to accept two-state solution to normalize ties in Arab countries.
He emphasized the necessity for Israel to accept some form of two-state solution to recognize Israel in order to normalize ties with Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries.
He also stressed the importance of security buffers for Israel, stating Israel will demand security buffers they have never demanded before because they can't afford another October 7th.
Graham expressed support for the Biden administration approach, noting that they are trying to revive the normalization efforts, and I think they're right to do so.
He acknowledged the need for Israel to do more to limit civilian deaths while highlighting the challenging situation where schools and hospitals are located.
Graham warned that failure to address the situation effectively would lead to another generation of just tit for that death.
Thoughts?
With all due respect, Graham, I cannot remind you enough how many times Israel has tried to compromise with a two-state solution.
So let me just read the fact because I don't speak on a motion.
1936 Peel Commission.
Israel accepted.
Palestinians rejected.
1947, UN partition plan rejected.
And then the Arab Leagues waged a war the next day that led to the alleged nakba of displacement because they said, get out of here, let's kill all the Jews and you'll take the land back the next day.
1967, Khartoum Resolution rejected by the Palestinians.
2000, Camp David Summit, Arafat and Ehud Barak rejected by the Palestinians.
2005, we tried to compromise.
Israel withdrew from Gaza.
Could have been the biggest beautiful resort on the beach and the best piece of land that they had to offer.
Instead, they turned it into a terrorism haven.
2008, Hud Almer offered a Palestinian state and it was once again rejected.
And we've seen what the Palestinian territories have turned into.
So that is my reminder to you.
Secondly, to address the civilians, horrible.
I've seen videos horrible from October 7th.
I've seen videos of casualties on the Palestinian side.
And it's been very hard to sleep at night seeing both.
But tell me, what do you do when nurseries and preschools and hospitals are Hamas' headquarters?
What do you do in that instance?
Do you retreat and be like, well, you know, there's a lot of people in there.
So let's just wait till October 7th turns into December 7th or January 7th.
What is the right thing to do to like combat this?
And we've seen enough proof.
It's not anymore an allegation.
We've seen the tunnels under the hospitals.
We've seen literal nursery cribs that you lift it and there are missiles being fired from under.
So instead of putting pressure on Israel to stop targeting civilians, which they are not doing, why don't we globally put more pressure, which sounds like an oxymoron because Hamas is a terrorist group, but put pressure on Hamas to stop using civilians as human shields.
You know, everyone's saying, oh, Israel needs to get the hostages back.
No, Hamas needs to release the hostages.
Israel needs to stop targeting civilians.
Hamas needs to stop using civilians as shields.
They're always looking at the wrong side of it.
Israel is never to blame.
I'm sorry.
Israel's been doing the most moral things that I've ever seen.
I've never seen an army release pamphlets announcing when they're attacking.
I've never seen that.
Where was October 7th pamphlets?
Hey, we're about to rape your family and burn you.
Where were those pamphlets?
But instead, no, Israel's bad guys.
And listen, death is death, and it's horrible, but all of the blame is to be put on Hamas.
Every single life that has been taken is Hamas's fault.
But the response, Emily, like, I was in the military, I passed in the military.
And I understand when, obviously, Hamas, horrible.
We need to get rid of them.
That's a no-brainer.
Terrorists, goodbye.
But the response would, well, I think they're at 20,000 dead right now, 9,000, 8,000 children, the tactic of just going in there, bombing, because I think it's unattainable goal to be like, we are not going to stop until Hamas is dead.
How do you keep track?
There's not a number.
They're not wearing t-shirts that say terrorism.
And I get it.
It's freaking difficult.
But like, what's the number of civilians that are going to die?
Because if they could tell us like a tally, okay, there's what, 40,000.
How many Hamas soldiers are there?
Who knows?
There's no way to know how many you're killing.
So my thing is, like, is it killing all?
Like, we're not going to stop killing everybody until we find.
Every single Hamas soldier is that you can't, you can't get it, you can't get that number.
And those bombs don't affect the ones that Israel's dropping.
They don't affect tunnels.
I know they were talking about filling the tunnels up with water and at the end of the day, tactically you think Hamas once they did October 7th they're just hanging around in Gaza.
No, the majority of them are gone.
They all left.
So it's like it's there's no winning in this situation.
But it's, and this is my thing from the beginning.
It's the children.
It's the eight to nine thousand children and this is the misconception that the people out there talk shit.
You can be Pro-Palestinian kids not dying and not be a supporter of Hamas.
That shit drives me bananas because I see people saying that stuff.
If you care about the kids, you support Hamas.
There has to be a tactical shift where it's not just bomb because we got to get rid of Hamas.
That's my attitude.
I want to.
I want to not combat that, because what you said is absolutely correct.
But there's two sides to this.
I don't want to start playing whataboutism, but can I just point out how many rockets a day are sent to Israel?
Where, if Israel did not have an iron dome, our death count would be a thousand times that, every single day.
I was just in Israel.
I got back last night every single day, running to the bomb shelter, every single day, multiple times a day.
Imagine each of those rockets hit.
Do you think they would do it?
They would do it 10 times more if we didn't have the iron dome.
So thank god we have it, or our death count by our, I mean Israel, is going to be 10 tenfold what we just saw.
For that, and i'm not justifying it, it's wrong.
So I actually would like to ask you guys what is the right thing to do?
Let Hamas be, because they're using civilians as human shit.
Like, what is the right answer?
I don't have it.
You don't have it.
No.
You made a very eloquent list.
You talked about 1936, 47, 67, 2000, 2005, 2008.
And you made a very eloquent list there.
And some of that is not visible to the casual citizen.
But most people know about the 1967 war, also known as the Six-Day War.
This was a coalition.
Let's just look at the accuracy of history.
They're trying to negotiate armistice agreements.
And the coalition of Arab states engaged in a war against Israel.
And what happened there was humiliating to them.
Syria lost the Golan Heights.
The West Bank was lost by Jordan.
The entire Sinai Peninsula was lost by Nasser of Egypt.
And new borders were set up.
And at the end of it, Israel said, the new border is here and I don't trust you.
So we need to also go back and look at history and how the coalition of Arab states tried a north, east, and west pinch because they wanted to eradicate the state.
And Israel, armed with U.S. support and U.S. weaponry, which was superior, as they found out, to the Soviet crap they were using, says that's what happened at the end of it.
So if you want to study history, America, go look at the 1967 war and look what happened there and look what the result was.
The result was you wanted to destroy me and eliminate me, but I pushed you back and took some of your place.
We're now going to call that like a buffer zone.
And that is where, listen to all those territories, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, Gaza, and Sinai.
Those have been disputed areas and areas of tension since 1967.
Let's remember what happened and why the borders were changed.
I'd also like to add to that that I don't even think it's ever been about land.
I mean, 1927, the Chevon massacres where 57 Jews were slaughtered.
Israel was not even established yet.
So you can't be like, oh, well, I want death to the Zionists because Zionism wasn't a thing at the time.
So I think this just goes back to a bigger problem than land.
I don't think it's ever been about land.
It'll never be about land.
I think the land is a means to justify Jew hatred, which is a very unpopular opinion.
But if you look at history, that's what it shows you.
My point, there is a coalition here that that was the end result that land was taken.
That was the end result.
But the point was there was a coalition of Arab states that wanted to pinch and eradicate Israel.
Yeah.
And can I ask one question, Pat?
What armistice agreements were trying to be negotiated in bad faith?
If you don't mind, Pat, because I want to ask you, I'm like, you just got back from Israel.
So it's been, what, 74 days since the attack?
You know what I mean?
They came in, they did their thing.
We still haven't gotten any answers.
I want to know if are Israelis talking about how?
I remember John Kirby came out five days after the attacks, and they're like, how could this happen there?
And his answer was, now's not the time.
It's been 74 days.
We're getting all these reports.
The Wall Street Journal or the Times reported that Israel had a report called the Jericho Wall that was, they found that they knew it was going to happen a year in advance.
I'm just wondering how, because obviously we don't want something like that to happen again.
Of course.
Have they strengthened?
Have they figured out?
Are the people asking questions of how something like this could happen?
And meaning we don't want it to happen again.
But how does this failure of intelligence happen?
Happened on 9-11, happened in Pearl Harbor.
What are we doing to have it not happen again?
Because then when you ask questions, they're like, now's not the time.
But 10 years down the road, everything's said and done.
Then they're going to be like, oh, yeah, we've effed up here, we effed up here.
And is anybody held accountable?
I mean, I think the answer is simple.
Israel failed.
Intelligence failed.
The army was negligent in a sense that, I mean, from what I've heard, not any official reports, is that they really undermined and underestimated what Hamas was capable of.
They thought they had it under control.
And allegedly, they had these reports, but they didn't have a time and a date.
And they're like, oh, well, we have them.
We're good.
We have control over Gaza and we know exactly what's happening.
And no one's going to do this to us.
And then when it happened in such a high number of Hamas terrorists infiltrating at once from different directions, I think the IDF was so overwhelmed.
And that's why the casualties were beyond something Israel's ever seen.
So the short answer is they failed.
As a country, as a nation, as a government, in every single sense, they failed.
And I will say that as the biggest Zionist on the planet, like they messed up.
But the reality is this.
If a terrorist wants to attack, no matter how big or no small the terrorism act is, they're going to figure out a way.
Whether they came in and they killed one person on a kibbutz or whether they came in and drove that every day.
This is literally what terrorists do.
What's the definition of terrorism?
It is the purposeful killing of innocent civilians.
For political agenda.
For any agenda.
And it's such a way to create fear of other things happening.
So what's my point?
This is what they do.
They wake up.
This is what they're planning for.
So there was a massive intelligence failure, massive army failure, IDF, everything you want to go with that.
So for me, it's not how and why did this happen?
It fucking happened.
But here's the reality.
And like, we're going to see how this plays out over the next several months.
There's going to be people telling Israel, go from all, kill them all.
There's going to be people saying no more innocent lives.
I get the entire argument.
I've been to Israel.
I've literally been partying in Tel Aviv when I had to go shelter and place in a bob shelter because what?
What are these sirens going off?
Are we in a club right now?
No, there's missiles coming from Syria right now or Lebanon right now or Hamas right now.
All right, cool.
I guess I can't party more.
Cool.
Because Tel Aviv, if you've never been there, it's like if New York and Miami and the Middle East had a baby, it's a great place.
That's awesome.
For me, it comes down to this.
Where do we all go from here?
After the dust settles, literally, and the war is over, what will Hamas and Gaza do?
Not even Hamas, because we've all recognized Hamas can no longer be the leaders of the Palestinian state, whether it's Fatah or PA or whoever comes in there.
They're going to be given a choice like they've been given a choice multiple times before.
The international community, the UN, Qatar, whoever ends up, they're going to send them what?
Billions of dollars.
And they have a choice.
Do you want to build tunnel systems of terror, or do you want to be the next Dubai?
The choice is yours.
If I'm meeting, you know what Israel wants?
They want them to be Dubai.
Go be the Dubai of the Mediterranean.
We wish you luck.
We want GDP.
We want happiness.
We want success.
We want much nachas for you.
A trading partner.
We want, we want, exactly.
And you know who will benefit from that?
The Palestinian people, the Israeli people.
But under Hamas's rule, imagine being ruled by ISIS.
Imagine being ruled by Al-Qaeda.
I feel so.
How's that working out for the people in Afghanistan being ruled for the Taliban?
Jews actually empathize with what they're going through.
They're under Islamic militant command, so much so that the people that run the West Bank, the PA, Mahmoud Abbas, they literally can't even go into Gaza.
Why?
You ask, why wouldn't the people that run the West Bank, the political organization, PA, why can't they go into Gaza?
Because Hamas would kill them.
They've done it before.
Once they were elected in 2006, they were throwing Fatah off the roofs.
So my wish, my prayer is that somehow, some way, the Gazans specifically, the people of the West Bank would say, guys, listen, here's the reality.
We've tried to overthrow Israel and take the land river to the sea a dozen times.
I get bad news for you guys.
They're not going anywhere.
Where are they going?
Okay, so let's try to figure out a way for us to have success.
But the problem is this.
In order to have peace, you need to have a peace partner.
The whole joke in Israel is, yo, Israel wants peace.
What does Hamas want?
They want peace too.
The problem is they want a piece of you over here and they want a piece of you over there.
You can't negotiate with terrorists.
We've heard that a billion times.
How do you negotiate with someone that literally will not negotiate with you?
Because in their charter, the founding fathers of Hamas, the great leaders that they are, they want to exterminate all Jews.
How do you negotiate with that?
Well, how do you, how do you, here's the thing.
How do you, you're never going to get rid of Hamas.
And what's happening right now, they're multiplying.
All the 2 million displaced and all the 8,000 kids dead.
Guess what?
The ones that are surviving and leaving, guess what?
They're going to become the most Israel-hating people.
Exactly.
It's perpetuating that.
So Vinny, you were in the army.
Air Force.
You're in the Air Force.
Okay.
You're in the Air Force.
Yeah.
Look, give me a military solution here.
Go ahead.
You've been in the military.
Well, first of all, Adam, I wouldn't have just said, okay, the horrible situation, we're just going to flatten it.
And guess what?
Even if you tell people, knocking on their door, hey, you guys have to leave.
Where are they going to go?
No, but I'm asking you.
I'm not even being facetious.
Give me a military solution.
I'm happy you said that.
The first thing I would have done, number one, secure Israel.
Make sure whoever effed up, it doesn't happen again.
And I wanted everybody accountable.
I don't give a shit if it was Netanyahu, who is on camera saying, you know what?
We can do whatever the hell we want.
This is a horrible look from, we can do whatever we want to Palestine.
America will, they'll just back us.
That's horrible.
Hold on.
Not a good look.
Number one.
Number one, check, totally agree with you.
That's no.
Number two, number two, not just indiscriminately bomb the shit and flatten Gaza and kick everybody out.
No, no, you don't do that.
You get a plan and you tactically go after these assholes.
You go in the tunnels.
You do this.
You don't just at them go bomb and sorry.
You go in there.
You send special forces.
You don't think the IDF and the Israelis have.
This isn't World War II.
This isn't World War II or Vietnam where we just carpet bomb.
I don't think the bombing is indiscriminate.
No, hold on, hold on.
Do you know how many bombs they've dropped on Gaza?
Quantity of bombs.
Do you know how many bombs were sent to Israel?
I understand, but guys.
Everything you're saying is correct.
What Emily just said is important.
Do you know that they're still shooting missiles in Israel?
Nobody's complaining about the bombs that are being dropped on Israel.
It's only the bombs of Gaza.
They're not carpet bombing.
They have an agenda and they have a schedule.
And I've never seen an army that tweets what they're doing day by day.
Go to IDF.
No, I understand, but those kids aren't reading tweets.
They're just children that are like, oh, shit, what are we going to do?
And they're discussing.
It's not for the children.
It's for the world to understand.
We're not carpet bombing Gaza.
We're trying to erase Hamas.
I'm not saying carpet bombing, but they're bombing a lot.
Have you guys seen it?
But you said indiscriminate.
I don't think that's a fair representation.
Okay, Adam.
I know you're revived.
Tom, that part's not.
I'm not revumped.
Do you know, though?
You know where Hamas is hiding?
The majority of these guys are underground.
The bombs that we're dropping on them, guess what?
They're not affecting these tunnels.
So, Adam, you might have to do it.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
I've seen very detailed video of how they launched into tunnels the explosives and everything.
And you can see the manhole covers and the next levels.
You didn't see a bomb drop some.
They're putting stuff inside the tunnels to blow the tunnels up.
But back to my point, Adam.
You secure.
You said they weren't affecting the tunnels.
No, I said the bombs are, Tom.
You're going in and placing explosives in the tunnels to blow those tunnels up.
That wasn't a missile hitting.
That's a very effective strategic.
Okay, to get back to my point.
My point is you secure Israel so it never happens again.
And there has to be a better tactical plan, Adam, to go in and find Hamas, which is, I get it.
It's a freaking difficulty.
So let me ask you one more question, and then I'm sure Emily will respond.
Everything he's saying is correct.
I believe me, I don't know one Jew that's like, let's kill them all.
Zero.
You don't think they could just kill 2 million people?
Okay, whether the number is 10,000, 20,000, whether it's Hamas, it's hard to distinguish because the UN's getting their numbers from who?
Hamas.
So true, by the way.
Yeah, so it's like, well, let's just believe all these numbers here.
But at the end of the day, let's say you're an innocent person in Gaza.
Dude, like, you think you just want to hang out in your building while it's about to get bombed?
You want to get the fuck out of there.
But what do you do?
Actually, walk me through this.
What do you do if Hamas says, no, no, no, you're not going anywhere.
We'll kill you if you leave.
Because Hamas wants dead people.
They want dead babies.
Why?
For propaganda.
That's how they get their funding.
That's how they get their empathy from around the world.
So Israel, whether you love Israel or hate Israel, it's irrelevant.
They're stuck in such a tough place where they want to go after terrorists.
They don't want to kill.
They don't want to kill innocent people.
The innocent people should be leaving.
They've been warned.
Hamas will literally kill their own people if they try to leave.
So Israel is just like, it's like a quandary and a conundrum.
And a riddle.
And it's like, it's so hard to figure out.
I get it.
And by the way, that's a metaphor for exactly what's happening in this region for the last 75 years.
By the way, I get what you're saying.
You could kill people.
You can't kill an idea.
He's saying this is a band-aid, which is absolutely correct.
The only solution to this very, very thin band-aid is hopefully at least most of Hamas is eradicated.
And this, I literally have no clue how to go about it.
We need somewhat of a function in government in Gaza.
It can't be ISIS or Hezbollah or Hamas or PIJ or all the three initials that basically want to just kill Jews.
Well, at the end of the day, the UN needs to come over.
The UN is useless and not the international community that bullshit.
No, she's right.
Listen, I get about it.
I don't care.
But I'd rather have the UN running Gaza than Hamas.
Do you want to found UN employees hiding hostages in Gaza?
So they're part of the terrorism problem, too.
Yeah, I mean, that's a little extreme.
No, no, no.
It's been shown.
They were in UN teachers' homes being hidden.
I'm not doubting that there's some one-offs with that, but I would rather have an internationally organized, recognized organization running Gaza rather than a terrorist organization.
Right, of course.
Say what you say about the UN.
But at the end of the day, give me a plan.
Give me a plan that says this is how we'll have peace, success, GDP for our people.
Give me a plan.
Because if your plan is just from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
That's not a plan.
That's a call for genocide.
Give me a business plan.
We just did a whole BPW business planning workshop for your plan, planning your next five moves.
If your next five moves is just continuing war and terrorism and destruction and genocide, that's not a game plan for success that the international community will basically get behind.
Show me a plan.
Show me a plan.
How peace is successful.
Well, you know, you nailed it.
You know why it's so freaking hard?
Because if the goal is to eradicate Hamas, there's no way of actually going, okay, they're done.
Like with ISIS, we destroyed ISIS.
We destroyed ISIS.
We can't.
That's why this is such a shitty situation because you're like, there's not a checklist.
Okay, Hamas is gone.
So I think the short answer is none of us have the answers.
Yeah, no, no.
So isn't it crazy?
I tell the country what to do after they face their 9-11.
No doubt.
I would say one thing, and we can wrap the next one to go to the next story.
I'm enjoying this conversation.
Listen to you guys.
I think the one thing is that we're seeing specifically last three years is when America is weak, people get exploited, they get taken advantage of.
And one of the things we're not talking about is the benefits of a strong leader running America that gets involved and puts the fear of death upon everybody and says, hey, we're not doing this.
You want to do this?
We're going to destroy XYZ.
And if you cross this line, here's what's going to happen.
And we're going to bring the right kind of support, not the wishy-washy support.
The support that Biden gave was never real, real support.
It was kind of like, well, and this and that and this.
It was kind of like worried about election.
Like, am I going to get re-elected type of a decision he was making?
Rather than, no, here's what we're going to do.
Whether you like it or not, you cross the line.
This is not something that we're going to support and accept.
We're doing this to you.
There's no fear like that coming from America.
If this was any other situation, you can even go to George Bush.
If this was any other situation, the fear of death was put on the people to say you cannot cross the line.
And there's been no feeling like that from America at all, zero.
So there's nobody that fears anybody.
And Bully is sitting there saying, This is awesome.
You're freaking kidding me.
It's open game.
Let me go take whatever I want.
And they're doing what they're doing.
Let's transition to the next story.
I got 10 more stories I want to go through.
Okay, so next one, which has to do with this, and that's the Houthis.
Okay, what happened with the Houthis?
So I want to show this on a couple things that's going on right now because this everybody is feeling.
Economically, you're about to feel it again.
So Houthis, who are, I want to say, west of Yemen, right on the Red Sea, where 10% of oil goes through, okay, where 12% of all everything we buy goes through, where 30% of shipping containers go through, the Red Sea, the canal that they all go through.
They attack this ship.
I believe it's called the Galaxy Leader.
Rob, if you got the video of how they take over the ship, and then all of a sudden, you know what they're doing?
They're dancing, they're celebrating.
You can just play the clip, you know, just press play.
And real quick, Pat, they're funded and backed by Iran.
They're rebels in front of the audio.
Yeah, look at this.
This is the footage.
They're just getting there.
They're funded by Iran.
That's right.
So they're like little pirates now.
They're little pirates now with a helicopter.
So not just any kind of pirates.
They show up.
You can fast forward a little bit.
Yeah, look at that.
Boom.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, they land.
They land on.
They got a camera guy.
They got to run around.
Look at this.
They run around and then they're dancing at the end.
It looks like a video game.
And they took over the captain.
Look at this.
By the way, this just happened a few weeks ago.
And then FYI, while this is going on, Rob, if you can pull up the phone, which is kind of weird, you know how much money goes through the Red Sea?
How much money, like how much of the world GDP is affected by the Red Sea?
In a year.
$1 trillion.
A trillion dollars a year is going through there.
Okay.
So it's not like a small little thing that we're not going to feel.
If this thing, so now what they're doing is rather than going through the Red Sea, they have to go all the way around.
So it's roughly between 7,000 miles to, say, you know, 13,000 miles.
So imagine the number of risks you have going this way.
Red Sea is a little bit less choppy.
There you go.
12% of global trade, 30% of all the global containers, and 10% of oil goes through here.
Now, in the last two to four weeks, Rob, can you pull up the number?
Type in U.S. military 78 attacks, CBS.
Just type everything like that and pull it up.
It's got to be the first story.
Look at this here, right there at the top.
Right there at the attack zone.
So there's been 78 attacks on us the last go up a little bit, see if it shows.
Was it three months?
I think this was not.
Now this was pre-Thanksgiving, Pat.
Let me zoom in a little bit on what you put all the way at the top.
U.S. destroyer, U.S. military, 78 attacks, military base.
I'll find a link for you and send it to you.
And you never hear it, huh?
They've attacked our bases 78 times, has been attacked, and we have not right there, right there, the top paragraph.
Iran-backed militias in Iraq have claimed responsibility for dozens of attacks that targeted bases housing U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria since Israel declared war on Hamas two months ago.
The U.S. military says 78 attacks have been carried out against U.S. facilities over the past few weeks, of which 37 were Iraq, 41 is in Syria.
And what are we doing about this?
No retaliation?
No, that's not what I'm saying.
What are we doing about it?
Nothing.
To me, that's the problem.
All of this is a byproduct of a weak leader lacking somebody at the top that puts the fear of death into these people.
So they're taking advantage.
What do you mean you attacked our base 78 times?
What do you mean you think you can get away with this thing?
Who do you think you are?
And we're just sitting on the sidelines accepting this.
So I have a problem with our leadership team on how they're responding to it, lackadaisical, casual, not being assertive about it.
And the Houthis are sitting there saying this is a great opportunity for us.
Go ahead, Tom.
You know what's really interesting?
You go back about five years ago.
Let's think.
Who was president five years ago?
Do you remember the Somali pirates that were jumping on containers?
Yeah, that's what it just reminded me of.
I am the captain.
The Somali pirates were, Somalia is like a failed nation state.
They were supported by Yemen directly and the Houthis, and they were getting their arms from the supporter of Yemen, which is Iran.
So there was a whole, what do they call that, supply chain that went back to Iran that was the Somali pirates.
What happened was the U.S. was like, well, you're in international waters.
Wait a minute, if I'm in international waters, can I hire retired military guys to be the security force?
Similar to we had the air marshals on airplanes.
They were plain clothes.
You didn't know who they were, but they were there.
And so they put these guys on there.
Captain Phillips was a movie and everything.
And guess what?
It stopped because they got 50 caliber and they've got big guns and they've got military-trained retired military guys that are operating independent security forces with the support of a U.S. president, Pat.
And guess what happened?
When you change actuarial tables for your career as a Somali pirate and you bring it out, like really shorten those actuarial tables, people insurance know what I'm talking about.
Guess what?
That's a deterrent.
The best thing, and it goes right back to what you're saying, Pat.
The best thing for the world is a strong U.S. president that the rest of the bad actors in the world think is crazy.
Let me say that again.
The best thing for the world is where they think our, the bad actors think our president is a little crazy.
They thought Reagan was crazy.
They thought Trump was crazy because deterrence is a stabilizing force.
Going back to my dad, because my brother and I had a peacekeeping agreement because of my dad got home, that was deterrence.
And now just think of that on a world stage.
A crazy U.S. when I hear Iran saying, oh, President Trump is crazy.
I'm like, I go to bed.
You know what?
I sleep well.
I want you to say that.
He is.
Yeah.
Yeah, good.
To be loved or he is.
Test him.
Walk across the line, mother.
Test him.
That's the three qualities of a great leader.
Loved, respected, feared.
Okay.
And when you're a leader of a country as big as ours, we're the leader of the free world.
Guess what matters the most?
Fear, then respected, then love.
If you love me, cool.
If you don't, I don't really care, but I want you to fear and respect.
We don't have that today.
So this account, and by the way, let me read this: what the Houthis aim to do.
They aim to govern all of Yemen and support external movements against U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia.
They have launched repeated missile and drone attacks against a number of Saudi cities.
They hate Saudi.
They hate U.S.
They hate Israel.
They are allies with Iran, North Korea.
These are their allies who they're all.
And by the way, they're five times the size of Hamas, just so you know.
And they're bigger than Hezbollah.
This is not a small organization.
This is not a small.
Everybody talks about Hezbollah and Yemen and all the Hezbollah and Hamasal.
Houthis are massive, powerful, big budget, trained, and they're formidable.
So you have to understand what they're doing right now is they're saying, oh, by the way, you know what their leader said?
Let me tell you what the leader, the major general of their military said.
Here's what he said.
Check this out.
This is pretty powerful.
War on Gaza.
Yosef Al-Madani, a major general.
Any escalation in Gaza is an escalation in the Red Sea.
And any come in Gaza is considered a come in the Red Sea.
So guess what they're saying?
You want to attack Gaza?
You're going to fill it with your pocketbooks.
Do you know how many ships and how many companies are no longer six of the largest shipping companies, oil companies, are no longer sending their ships through there?
They've halted all of it.
Six of the BP number one, they're no longer going through there.
Here's what Elsie said.
He said, any country or party that comes between us and Palestine, we will confront it.
Houthis are not Hamas.
If you think Hamas is annoying, wait till you deal with these guys.
So why won't they take all the Palestinian refugees if they're such good allies?
It's a well, I mean, that's the conversation with Egypt.
You're going to go to Jordan.
That's the same conversation a lot of people are having.
But yeah, so they're coming from that standpoint with what they're doing.
But I have a question for you.
Just back to that video.
And this is a dumb question.
I'm going to fully acknowledge that.
If you're trying to, you know, ship your product across the sea and you're on a big ship, do they have like missiles or anything on the ship for protection?
Like if you see an unidentified helicopter approaching your ship, you can't shoot it down.
Some of these ships hire like ex-military guys.
I've seen videos of like, especially the ones like the Captain Phillips type thing, where they literally are ex-military on M16s and they're brutal videos and they shoot them dead.
So my question is, why didn't they do that?
And I just think some of these ships, like, and some of these ships do, if you've seen the movie Captain Phillips, they have this water spray to deter them.
When it's like this, yeah, but guns, the water's not doing much.
They have to be, I mean, you have to pay to have security, but depending on what the cargo is, they normally don't have this type of security unless it's something that they don't want to lose because they will shoot your ass out.
The ship they took over Galaxy leader is a massive ship.
By the way, you know who owns Galaxy Leader?
Go type in who owns Galaxy Leader.
I believe it's called Ray Shipping, owned by a Jewish owner.
There it is, Ray Shipping Company owned by Israeli businessman Rami Ungar.
So this is a ship that was from Poland, but it's owned by Ray Shipping.
They're targeting.
So it's not like it's a small ship.
And she's making a very good point.
Why don't you protect the ship, right?
Why don't you have certain military personnel to protect the ship?
Some carriers should be able to do it.
I want to give a little perspective because it's interesting.
You said that the Houthis were basically the Iran-backed militia.
You said they're bigger than the Hamas and all that.
Wow.
So people don't know this, but they should, that arguably the greatest humanitarian crisis has been going on in the past five plus years has been in Yemen, where there's a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
So it was interesting that Pat said the Houthis aim, their goal, I don't know if this has ever been said before, is to bring down the U.S., Israel, and Saudi Arabia.
Okay, interesting.
Saudi Arabia.
What are we talking about?
That's the interesting part there.
We have all heard Iranian, what's going on in theocracy in Iran about death to America, death to Israel, death to basically the modern Western world.
But the Saudi Arabia thing is interesting.
Why?
Because during the Abraham Accords under Trump and most recently under somewhat continuation over Biden, they've been trying to make peace.
Israel has made diplomatic efforts to make peace all around the Middle East.
So Netanyahu, whether you like him or don't like him, the reality is he's basically said, I'm doing the 99% versus 1% strategy.
What's that?
Rather than trying to make peace with the 1% over here, people in Gaza, Hamas, not happening, let me go out and try to make peace with the Muslim world.
And he's done that, okay?
Everything with the Abraham Accords, where they've made peace deals with the UAE and Bahrain and Oman and obviously Jordan and Egypt.
But the next on the list, people forget this, prior to October 7th, they were this close with having a peace agreement with Saudi.
Who's running Saudi these days?
Really?
The face of Saudi is NBA's Mohammed Bel Salman, who's bringing Saudi Arabia into modernity.
He's basically saying, if we want to actually have a country with success and GDP and profits for our country, let me sort of engage in the international rules-based order and actually be a part of the rest of the world.
And they've done that with a lot of success.
That's why you see them buying sports teams and the live golf stuff.
And they're basically saying, listen, you know, if you can't beat them, join them.
Let's join the rest of the world.
I'd love to see that.
And that's what's happening in Saudi.
Exactly.
And basically, that's isolating Iran even further.
So this proxy war in Yemen has killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in Yemen.
But you don't hear the Hamas, the Gaza Gag Brigade marching about what's going on in Yemen.
There's millions of your fellow Arabs, Muslims dying.
Afghanistan, Syria.
Afghanistan, and Syria, Lebanon.
But they're singularly pointing out what's going on to 10,000 or so people in Palestine.
But at the end of the day, you have to figure out this.
We talked about this international rules-based order.
It's all about alignment.
Who's aligned?
On one side, you have China, Russia, North Korea, and who?
Iran.
Iran's funding the Houthi rebels.
They're funding Hamas.
They're funding Hezbollah.
They're funding anything that starts with an H that promotes terrorism.
On the other side, you have, whether you like them or not, and this is the team that I'm on, United States, the EU, Israel, Canada, Australia, Japan, democracies.
At the end of the day, it comes down to one thing.
Democracies versus autocracies.
And autocracies and dictators and theocrats, they're aligning.
And you have people that are the liberal democratic countries that are coming together saying, no, this is how we want to operate.
And this is all going to all right.
So it's really a clash of cultures, East versus West.
And, you know, shout out to Mohammed bin Salman.
I mean, not a fan of him chopping up.
As-salamu alaykum, my friend.
By the way, I know what you're saying, but the key out of all those countries, Saudi plays a very important role because Saudi has typically played, you know, Switzerland and they've kind of been like trying to please everybody.
He's taking a stand to say, look, man, we got to bring peace to the Middle East because if we want to compete with all these other countries and we want to bring soccer, golf, all this stuff here, he's going to play a very important role.
U.S. announces 10 nation force to counter Houthi's attack on Red Sea.
This just came out last night.
Says coalition will include Bahrain, Canada, France, Italy, UK, and other countries.
So we'll see what's going to happen there.
But I do believe the best part of that news is MBS wants to bring economy.
He wants to bring commerce.
He wants to bring celebrities.
He wants to bring shows to Saudi that benefits.
He's a genius.
He is a genius.
He's going to have to figure out a he had a little bit of a hiccup, but he's got to bring some people over.
Pat, how would you?
This is an interesting question.
But you grew up in Iran.
Obviously, you're a big fan of the Shah, right?
You interviewed his son most recently.
Iran, people don't know this.
It was like the Paris of the Middle East in the 60s, the 70s, all that before it was taken over in the 79 revolution.
How would you compare what MBS is doing, trying to take this Islamist country that has, you know, been sort of radicalized, you know, kind of tiptoeing around terrorism for quite some time and trying to bring it into modernity and trying to bring it into the rest of the world to have success.
How's that?
What correlation do you even see with the Shah of Iran and MBS territory?
A lot.
The difference is, you know, like Iran, you know, had different kinds of resources, some similar, but yeah, they have a lot of similarities.
This guy is very ambitious.
He's extremely ambitious with what he wants to make that place be.
And I think the best part is like when you're talking about why don't you make Palestine into the Dubai?
Who would benefit from it?
Everybody benefits from it.
But there's a community that doesn't want that.
Adam, when we lived in Iran, for 10 years, they would say, marik bar homri col, death upon America.
Be careful, they're going to make your daughters into the Western girls.
Be careful, they're going to turn your, they would put the fear of their girls becoming whores is how they would sell it.
Literally, they would say, if you embrace Western society, you couldn't watch movies in Iran from U.S.
It was all underground.
We had to all go, there would be a guy that would be underground selling VHS to other people because he didn't want you to get any of the Western culture in.
They don't look at what we live as our lifestyle as the way to live.
They fear that all day long.
Saudi is trying to say, hey, man, some of the stuff we're doing here, we got to get away from it.
He's called that his own people, religious leaders.
And they've not liked MBS a lot when he did that.
So again, he has some issues with him, with the journalists.
You know, when that took place a couple of years ago, where they gave him some controversy, a guy was challenging, pushing him.
But I think all in all, it's going in the right direction.
He's one of the key leaders that's going to help bring peace to that area.
I think what we have to take a look at is George W. Bush and Trump both had a lot to do with what's emerging with MBS.
And just go back and look at the age of the gentleman as he's come to power to be a successor prince and now run it.
There are three words that MBS hates, and it is these: drill, baby, drill.
When the U.S. is drilling and we are energy independent and we are exporting excess natural gas, he loses his chairmanship over OPEC.
When Venezuela basically collapses and is no longer part of the key supply volumes, they're still exporting oil, but they're not part of the key.
That hurts OPEC.
So what he is doing is he is elevating Saudi Arabia while carefully, if you go in, by the way, you go down there, it's not spring break.
You're not going to go party there and your sister is not going to be running on the beach with a bikini, trust me.
He is trying to bring them forward as a trading and economic partner with the West.
And a lot of people saying, well, he's doing it with sport washing, as they call it.
I'll buy it.
I'll take it.
Right?
But he's bringing stability to it.
And every time we're more energy independent, we're actually causing him to be a stabilizing force in the Middle East because he wants to be that stabilizing force.
And he wants to have economic integration because he doesn't want war.
He wants wealth.
And so let me tell you, every time a U.S. president says, drill, baby, drill, we're going to be energy independent.
We're going to be an exporter.
Guess what?
It creates a tension and he is reacting in this way.
And as far as the Houthis, I wish they would just, you know, take over the Yemen newspaper, print some bad articles about Saudi, and this thing will be over in an afternoon.
I like what you said right there, that he doesn't want war.
He wants wealth.
And I wish, I wish that for the people of Gaza.
Oh, no.
Hamas has wealth, but the people are literally starving.
The people have no money.
That's what Saudis bring right.
But the top of the Hamas food chain, they're literally flying around in private jets.
They're billionaires, allegedly.
They've taken all that money.
They've ransacked it for themselves.
They're living in Qatar.
They're living in Lebanon.
They're living a good life, but the people in Gaza are suffering.
I wish that that money funneled to the people.
Even a little bit of it.
That's a lot of money.
Can we go into the Trump story?
Let's go into the Trump story.
Rob, I just sent you something.
I don't know if you're able to show that on the big screen or not.
It's a dedication to Tom, if you're able to pull that up.
Kanye thing right there?
No, no, it's something else.
Tom is the O, Kanye.
Yeah.
Let's go through the story here.
All right.
Donald Trump, banned from Colorado ballot in historic ruling by state Supreme Court.
The Colorado Supreme Court on a landmark decision declared that Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, marking the first ever use of this provision to disqualify a president candidate.
The ruling was made in a 4-3 decision by the courts, justices, all of whom were appointed by Democratic governors.
The court overturned a district court judge's ruling that Trump incited an insurrection, but questioned whether the provision applied to the presidency.
However, the Colorado Supreme Court disagreed, stating that President Trump asks us to hold that Section 3 disqualifies every oath-breaking insurrectionist except the most powerful one, and that is bars oath breakers from virtually every office, both state and federal, except the highest one in the land.
Emily, thoughts on this?
Quite simple.
You don't have to like Trump to acknowledge how scary this is.
I don't like your opinion, so I'm going to do everything in my power to censor you.
Do you see the slippery?
It's the slipperiest slope possible.
It's like now because you don't like what this guy has to say, this guy meeting our former president potentially could be our future president.
So we're just going to start, you know, manipulating laws and amendments and try to find a way to keep him out of power.
Even though if he's so bad for the country, don't worry because people won't vote for him.
So it's like, whether he wins or loses, let it be fair.
Don't let him lose because you guys cheated within our own country.
It's just, it's scary.
It's Trump today.
It's going to be someone else tomorrow.
Then there's no line between who we're censoring and who we're preventing from potentially being our president.
It's horrific.
And you know, I think too, it's like, and I know a lot of people are upset yesterday when I saw this.
I was tripping out.
I texted everybody and they should be.
But you know what?
You know what you have to do?
You have to tip your hats to the Democrats.
I mean, these guys and girls play to win.
And let me just break it down really fast.
They tried cheating in 2016 with Russian collusion, right?
Hillary, DNC, FBI.
And for four years, we had to hear their bullshit.
It didn't stick.
So they cheated again in 2020.
They used COVID to make people vote from home.
Then they had the FBI at Twitter, 81 of them, suppressing stories, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, his business dealings with China and Ukraine.
Then, this is brilliant, January 6th happens.
They know it's going to happen.
The chief of police, Stephen Sun, said, We had death threats.
We knew it was going to be bad.
They ignored all of it, including Pelosi and Schumer.
They let shit hit the fan.
They had Capitol Police shooting rubber bullets.
They made this violence happen, and then they went after everybody and they're using it against Trump.
Pat, say what you want about these guys.
They don't play.
They go for it.
You got to tip your hat off to them.
Imagine they put this much effort into actually fixing the country.
Exactly.
They don't have time for that.
They just want the power.
This thing is hanging by a thread.
Let me tell you something about the Colorado State Supreme Court.
Colorado State Supreme Court is one of the liberal and politicized state Supreme Courts in the nation.
And yet they were only able to squeak out a 4-3 decision.
This is not 6-2.
Excuse me, that's 9.
So this is 6'1.
This is not 6-1.
This is not 5-2.
This is 4-3.
They were barely able to get themselves to the edge to do this.
Number one.
Number two, that doesn't cover them, but they have alignment with the Ninth Circus.
The Ninth Circuit is known as the Ninth Circus.
It is the most overturned appellate court in the United States.
It's based in California, but it covers the entire West Coast and not Colorado.
But there's alignment between them.
The key player in all this is the United States Solicitor General, who is going to hear this in short order and determine whether the Supremes take it up.
And I don't believe that this was anything other than the Democratic Party working with Colorado Supreme and trying to get this over the edge to get it, quote, out there.
I believe that's what's happening here.
And I believe if this goes to the U.S. Supreme, it dies six, it dies by a wider margin.
Yeah.
By the way, I fully agree with you, Tom.
At the end of the day, this is going to go to the Supreme Court where there's a what a 6-3 Republican majority over there.
I mean, this, look, whether you're a fan of Trump or not a fan of Trump, at the end of the day, this should be sort of shocking to see that you can eliminate someone from a ballot.
By the way, this affects the primary, which I think in Colorado is in March, I want to say.
March.
So at that point, yeah, March 5th, I want to say.
So at that point, they're already going to have Iowa.
They're already going to have New Hampshire.
They're going to have, I think, a ton of states vote March 5th.
But look, I'm not happy to see this.
You know, I'm not the biggest fan of Trump, but I do believe that he should be at least qualified to run for election.
And not a fan of what's going on here.
And any all my Democratic friends out there, whether you hate Trump, want to see Trump, he hasn't been found guilty of anything yet in federal court.
This is called cheating.
So yeah, it's called actively.
Now, like, Democrats are like, oh, wow, I don't understand what's going on.
This is why when Republicans say this is election interference, it's like kind of sees that way.
I love this.
And can I ask you a question?
I know I have a friend.
And I don't know if you know this.
I have a friend named Patrick McDavid.
He wrote a book called Choose Your Enemies Wisely.
I just almost finished reading it.
Yeah, pretty good book.
I want to ask you a question.
Do you think that Trump chose his enemies wisely in the sense of Patrick, the DOJ, FBI, when he came out and said, I'm going to drain the swamp and went out there?
Do you think that was a wise choice, meaning he just had to do it to do it to wake everybody up?
Or because it's backfiring right now?
What do you think?
I think this is fantastic because there's certain enemies you don't make it this obvious that you're willing to get this dirty to do it.
And Democrats are saying we're willing to do anything and everything to prevent this guy from running.
It shows insecurity.
It shows fears.
It shows lack of confidence.
It shows gamesmanship.
It shows so many different things.
You don't have to be a fan of this guy.
You can hate Trump and say, dude, this is a little bit weird.
By the way, to know this, this isn't the first time this has happened.
In 1860, when Lincoln was running, he was running against the Democrat.
And guess what happened in 1860?
10 states Lincoln wasn't on the ballot on.
10 states who were pro-slavery states were afraid of what Lincoln was going to do.
The Democrats in 1860 were like, oh shit, if this guy wins, do you really go ahead and open this and read this up?
Open it up.
If you can just zoom in a little bit, Rob.
1860 U.S. election, something on Tuesday night or something, in a four-way contest where Republican ticket Abraham Lincoln and Hannibal Hamlin absent from the ballot in 10 slave states, 10 slave states.
So I can't win a state, slave state, blue state, slave state.
You know what I'm saying?
Slave state.
One a national popular, and then next thing you know, they end up destroying the entire thing, becoming president.
Look what the score ends up being.
303 to what?
152.
Can you go a little bit to the right, Rob?
303 members electoral, 152, 82%, they end up winning.
They are so scared of something like this happening.
They are fearing the results of what could potentially end up taking place here.
So you think he chose them.
So you think he chose Lynch?
I don't know what they're doing.
You know, from the standpoint of when you're trying to beat somebody, when you're willing to cheat to beat them, you're showing the public your cards too much.
But it's like they're not embarrassed of hiding it from anybody.
But this is in no playbook is this a good strategy.
Exactly.
I want to see this at the Supreme Court because this decision will corner Kagan and Sotomayer because they are very big on voting rights and liberal broad access to vote.
They are huge on it.
And it will force those two women to, if you want to, they may say, well, I'll vote no because it's going to pass 6-3 anyway because of, you know, Comey Bryant and everybody else that's there.
And, you know, the Supreme Court, John Roberts, is going to carry it.
I want to see how they vote on it because Kagan in particular is very concerned.
She always has been about retaliatory justice, you know, the retaliatory justice.
She's very concerned about that.
She was really revved up about that on the Roe v. Wade decision that came out.
I want to see it get to the Supremes because I bet that America will be surprised at what they see the vote.
I think all they're doing is they're just strengthening Trump.
The other side.
I agree.
But is it tactic?
Do you think there's a tactic?
There's a bigger game that gets played.
Do you think that that's their tactic, though?
Because they have something bigger up there.
I don't trust.
They're relentless.
Well, they don't stop at anything.
You know, it would be super interesting.
What?
Because even if he's not on the ballot, which I believe he will be, because I believe the Supreme Court will overturn this, but let's just play this game.
Go ahead.
How crazy would it be if he's left off the ballot?
And there'd have to be some grassroots campaign, but he wins by write-in votes.
Oh, of course.
Queen, you go to vote in the primary.
All right, I got Christie, I got Haley, I got my guy back, my guy, got the Santa.
I'm just going to write in Trump.
Imagine if that they just wrote in Trump, he could do it.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
So just, I mean, don't rule that out.
Like, it's not like he doesn't have name recognition in Colorado.
Yeah, we're entering into the absurd.
A long, long time ago, there was a movie where, was it Richard Pryor?
He ran as the candidate and he named himself none of the above.
That's so funny, Tom.
Rob, can you pull up that clip?
Vivek said this yesterday.
By the way, this thing went viral.
That's a bad picture of him.
Where is he going to say what viral?
That's a tourist.
Yes, today, but watch what Vivek had to say.
Go ahead.
They have just tried to bar President Trump from the Colorado ballot using an unconstitutional maneuver that is a bastardization of the 14th Amendment to our U.S. Constitution.
This was a provision, Section 3, that was designed to bar Confederate members, people who switched to the Confederacy, from actually being able to serve.
That's very different than what's at issue here, to say the least.
This is a hollowed-out husk of what the country was built on.
The basic principle that we the people select our leadership, not the unelected elite class in the back of palace halls.
That's old world Europe, not the United States.
That's why I'm making a pledge today that I will withdraw.
I pledge to withdraw from the Colorado GOP primary ballot unless and until Trump's name is restored.
And I demand that Ron DeSantis and Chris Christie and Nikki Haley do the same thing, or else these Republicans are simply complicit in this unconstitutional attack on the way we conduct our constitutional republic.
I refuse to be complicit in that.
I think what they're doing is wrong.
And I think it's up to Republicans to step up and stand up with a spine for our country's future.
That's really what's at stake, whether we the people actually have a say in deciding who leads this country.
Yes, it would be easier for other Republicans like me who are running in this race to say, hey, if Trump is sidelined, there's our opportunity.
No doubt other candidates are probably privately celebrating with their corporate sponsors.
That's not the right thing to do.
I think the most useful thing that every GOP candidate can do right now is to join me in that pledge.
I'll say that I will withdraw from that Colorado GOP primary ballot until Trump stays out.
No, seriously, that's a two-month.
It belongs to the people, not to the unelected Democratic cabal of judges in Colorado or any other state.
And I company and Chris Christie do the same thing, or else they're complicit in what the security state is trying to do to shut down Trump.
So right, though, I stand by that and I expect if I win, whatever.
He's like, if I win, I'm going to do fair and square, not because Democrats are cheating by trying to sideline Trump.
And I honestly think it's commendable.
He's such a good idea.
You know, if I was on the other side, I'd be very, very concerned listening to the next Attorney General of the United States talking like that.
You think he could be?
If I was Trump and I was elected, and I don't think he really would want a vice president role, I would make him AG and I would just say, don't even come to my desk.
I just want to see on the news every night, I just want to see perp walks.
I want to see perp walks top to bottom.
I want you to be my AG.
I want you to be the AG from hell.
They would fear to hell.
Oh, this guy.
No doubt.
I don't think that Vivek is going to want the VP job, but I do think he'd make a hell of an Attorney General.
I think he'd make it a hell of a chief of staff.
He's a constitutional.
National Security Advisor.
You can put him at the Secretary of the Treasury.
You can put him Secretary of State, any job he wants.
I don't think he's doing this to cozy up to Trump.
I actually firmly believe that he believes that.
We've spent enough time with Vivek to know what he stands for.
He's an alpha.
What are the chances that he's Secretary of State?
Yeah, Tom, come on.
People are talking, buddy.
What are the chances that, ding, ding, what are the chances that Chris Christie withdraws from the ballot?
Hell no.
What are the chances that Ron DeSantis has?
What are the champions?
He's hungry.
But there you go.
The reality is he's one step ahead of all these guys.
And you're looking at what I think is the future of the Republican Party after whatever happens with Trump in 2028.
Just to bring it back to the other side, I want to broaden this for a minute.
People need to start condemning when wrong is wrong.
And this goes just beyond election fraud.
Like today, it's the Republicans being wronged.
Tomorrow it's the Democrats.
And I always say this about like the Holocaust, like the fact that people are like, oh, whatever about it.
Like, no, it was the Jews then.
So even if you hate Jews, you should care because it could have been Muslims or Christians.
I mean, look at the Uyghurs being killed and a genocide in China that nobody's talking about.
Like one day it's this person, the next day it's that.
Wrong is wrong.
Common denominator.
So any normal, rational person, which we lack today, should fear that, but they don't.
And that's a problem.
Let's go to the next one here.
Next story is, where is this Harry Dent story?
I'm going to find this.
Okay, we can go to U.S. economists predicts 2024 will bring biggest crash of our lifetime.
Page six, Tom.
That wasn't this year?
No, he's saying 2024.
Okay.
Economist Harry Dent predicts a significant market crash in 2024 due to overvalued markets and excessive stimulus spending, stating, I think 2024 is going to be the biggest single crash we'll ever see in our lifetime.
Dent believes that the current market conditions constitute an everything and everything bubble that began in late 2021 and warns of a ready 86% crash.
86% crash in the SP 500, 92% in NASDAQ, and a 96% in crypto.
He also projects a 50% crash in the average house price, which will hit people the hardest.
Dent advises investors to be cautious and get out the way of the impending crash, suggesting that they can potentially reinvest at lower prices and magnify their gains.
Mr. Ellsworth.
Can you break that down for idiots?
Yes.
So he's listening: 86% crash in SP 500.
Do you know what that means?
I mean, that's worse than the Great Resettle.
That's worse than COVID.
That's great in the Great Depression.
Oh, the streets are people robbing and it's layoffs.
It's a shit show.
So, Tom, what do you think about this 80% fear porn?
He's selling us.
So Fear Porn is right.
I mean, God bless you, Harry Dent, but you're out there just trying to scare people.
In 2009, you wrote the book, The Great Depression Ahead.
And a lot of that didn't come true.
You know, when it comes to fear porn, you are like porn hub for the economics people that want to freak people out.
It can't, you come on.
Harry, you have an economic interest in selling books, especially your next book and the subscribers to your newsletter.
I wish he would stay with his slightly bearish point of views, which have been heralded as being not soothsaying the future, but prudently looking at the future.
But right now, he's grabbing headlines on a slow news day.
We're a ways from getting quarterly reports.
The Fed is kind of in its doghouse and just kind of waiting for things, nothing big to see here.
And we've had our Black Friday news.
So I was looking at this and looking at the timing of it.
Most financial people, and Adam, you know this.
You know the voices that are in finance.
They kind of pick their spots when they come up, like Groundhog Day, pop up and say things.
And I think Harry Dent is doing it right here.
And I think there's 80% fear porn in here and 20%.
Hey, is this a time to prudently look at 2024?
Maybe it is.
I'm not particularly worried about 24, not as I was three months ago.
Dude, I'm so sick of shit like this.
I got to tell you.
I mean, we've covered this before.
I mean, and as much as I love and respect Kiyosaki, he calls for this every year.
There's a bunch of people that do this.
This is doom and gloom of the highest proportion.
92%, 88%.
This is the great depression, recession, all commingled into one.
But here's what I want.
We talk about accountability.
All right.
Where's accountability with China?
What's going on with COVID?
What's going on?
Accountability, election denialism.
What's going on?
January 6th.
All right.
Let's see what happens in 2024.
If the market stays the same, little flat goes up, I'd like you to resign from your position.
I'll never write another book.
Doom and gloom prognosticator, because this is shocking and sends shockwaves throughout the economic world.
It's so ridiculous.
It's so ridiculous.
It's mathematically impossible if you just think of asset value of raw materials.
This guy's not dumb.
He's not dumb.
He's not a dummy to say something like that.
No, but that's why I said Groundhog Day, Pat, because the Groundhog pops out of there and there's a big commotion.
Are these his books?
That's a song in the movie Groundhog Day.
What's the song?
Every morning in Groundhog Day would build a bunch of people.
Thank you a little share at Sonny Bono.
How does that work?
I got you, baby.
I got you, baby.
These are, by the way, these are the books he booked.
He read what an asshole.
The Great Depression ahead.
And if you're having that book, zero asshole.
Dude, the guy's an asshole.
Like, what are you doing, bro?
People are scared of reading this shit.
But you know what it is?
It's like the guy on ESPN Game Day or NFL Live, and he's like, you know, the Buffalo Bills are going to blow out the Cowboys this week.
No, the Cowboys are going to beat the shit up.
Mark my words.
The Cowboys are going to crush the Bills this week and final score.
Buffalo Bills 31.
Dallas Cowboys 7.
Where you at that, Haas?
I think I say every year the Knicks are going to the finals.
But Adam, this is a guy saying the Kansas City fans are going to go 0-17 next year.
Exactly.
He's talking like the.
I understand that something could happen next year.
Don't get me wrong.
Next year, it's a little weird year.
I mean, it's too many weird things are happening.
Even if they like, the story goes into why they have to lower the rates.
You see how they're going to have to lower the rates to prevent from a what page is the story, Tom, that says, okay, here we go.
Fed officials say rate cuts could be needed next year to prevent over-tightening.
Okay, I get that.
That we may need to do that to prevent over-tightening.
San Francisco Fed, President Mary Daly supports considering interest rates in 2020 limited, anticipate at least three rate cuts and next year.
She states we're acknowledging progress when progress is there.
Daily emphasizes the importance of avoiding overly restrictive monetary policy and its potential impact on job stability.
She watches for signs that the labor market is weakening and highlights the need to balance inflation employment concerns.
She stresses the goal of achieving both price stability and labor market stability.
Recent government data indicates that mild inflation in November with core inflation potential dipping below 2% on a six-month.
Okay, yes, I agree with that.
And by the way, she speaks 86%.
First of all, why would you even write that article?
I mean, go ahead, Tom.
Go ahead.
No, no, no.
And I was saying, the reason she uses the word could is because she's one of the Fed Board of Governors.
Jerome Powell is the spokesman.
So all she says is could, and then she quotes Powell for a paragraph because she's not authorized to be, you know what I'm saying?
She's not authorized to say the one, this is going to be our policy.
What I do is 86%, Pat.
To your point?
Yeah, what I do in moments like this is, all right, when did his most recent book come out?
No, but I don't.
Probably promoting some sort of book.
What's his background?
He's somebody in economics.
He's somebody in economics.
Like, he's a guy that's been around.
He's a New York Times bestseller.
Zoom in Robston's background.
Everyone's a New York Times bestseller.
Not everyone.
This guy's not a Zoom in a little bit.
He sold books.
So he hasn't.
But besides the books, he has an economic background of some sort.
Yeah, he's an economist.
Can you go to his background?
Go to his Wikipedia so we can see what.
His wife must be like, all right.
He's 70 years old.
He's been saying stuff like the Zoom In.
Okay.
Where is Harvard?
Financial News.
So Dentist of Founder Investment Time Roads are patterns.
He has written 11 books, two recent ones, bestsellers, the sale of a lifetime best.
And the consumer.
Okay.
Pat, I'm sure our people who are listening on audio are really appreciating this.
Totally understanding.
All right, let's go to the next story.
Let's talk about something that really matters.
Okay, some serious stories here.
This may be the most important story we have here.
Southwest has given free extra seats to obese people.
I identified as obese.
What is more important than this?
Think about it.
What is more important than this?
And I'm going to come to you, Emily.
So be ready.
We want your breakdown of this.
Southwest Airline is under scrutiny for its customer of size policy, which allows overweight passengers to receive an additional seat for free or book extra seats in advance with a subsequent refund.
This policy has drawn praise from some TikTok influencers and the body positivity community.
Critics argue that this policy is unfair to passengers who can comfortably fit into one seat and represents a compromise driven by woke activism over customers' overall interests.
They suggest that overweight passengers should be required to purchase two seats if they cannot fit into one rather than receiving an extra seat.
What a dumb idea.
But go ahead.
What are your thoughts on this?
I've said this on Gutville before because this is not the first time obesity is being worshipped and idolized in the United States.
And any other country would be looked at gross because it is.
But it just makes me regret ever dieting in my life because if I was obese and hideous, I would have way more brand deals.
I'd probably have a fat wallet right now.
I'd get free seats apparently on Southwest.
And my question is: why are we lying to ourselves that something like obesity should be glorified?
And when you said TikTok influencers, like the light bulb went off in my head, like, all right, that's why it's being normalized because of these freaking idiots on TikTok.
And it goes way beyond obesity.
It's like we're trying to normalize things that they're not normalized for a reason.
You know, being fat's not healthy.
Fat in your body is likely going to cause cancer to produce its cells in your body because it's not healthy.
Exercise is good for you.
Eating healthy is good for you.
Glorifying obesity, which I see all the time on TikTok, is not like a new trend that we should be setting.
And then, secondly, they're trying to do this for, I'm going to assume, like equality and stop like fat shaming, whatever, fine, body positivity.
But here's what I've been trying to say loudly.
If you want true equality, this goes to whether you're a Jew, a Christian, Muslim, an atheist, black, white, yellow, purple, fat, skinny, doesn't matter.
You want equality, stop pointing out the differences.
You know, you don't need Pride Month.
You don't need your own seat on a plane for free.
You don't need to highlight the differences if you want true equality.
You don't think that's normal.
Ew, I'm sorry.
Like, by the way, she's a beautiful woman.
Imagine if she was thin.
Healthy.
Healthy, not thin.
They'll never let her go thin because it ruins their entire agenda.
This story just came out.
Do you understand how much that's going to backfire?
That means really obese people are going to start going on Southwest.
Can you imagine the nightmare if you're on that plane and they're in the exit role?
They're not going to be able to help if shit hits the fan.
They're going to be swapping.
That's so insensitive.
But it's true.
They asked you, like, can you perform a week duty?
By the way, you know, when you're on Southwest Airlines and you're just on your flight and you ask the most important question, the most important question I got to ask is, is this a full flight?
They say no.
When they say no, if you're with another person, there's a strategy that you can pull.
Somebody sits window, somebody sits aisle, and people come in and you say, hey, somebody spilled coffee.
They drink coffee.
They said no one sit here.
Oh, I don't want to sit there.
And they go away.
And then you try different things.
Okay.
You know, one person can say, Sky smells.
There's so many different strategies you can take.
But when it's a full flight and you're Tom, we've been on these.
Well, we're sitting there and you're just looking at a person coming like, oh, God.
I'm begging you.
No.
No.
And then we say, hi.
Oh, my God.
How are you?
I really travel on Southwest.
I pick people out of the lineup and recruit.
I usually try to get on.
Hey, you guys want to team up together?
Let's just sit together.
Everybody in general.
Can you imagine?
No, I get on and I try to sit as far forward as I can.
And so, you know, I make sure that I, you know, get wait, can I point out my Southwest story?
I've never flown in my life.
I had a really weird transfer from Florida to D.C.
And you've never flown in your life?
No, no, Southwest.
Oh, gotcha.
I'm a big Delta fan.
So anyway, when I get to the plane, I'm like boarding and I'm like, this flight looks really full.
So I go and I didn't get my seat assignment yet.
So I ask for it and they go, oh, you're not guaranteed a seat on the plane.
And I'm just like.
But I was billed $480 for this ticket.
Like, so where's my seat?
And they're like, oh, buying a ticket doesn't guarantee you a seat on the plane.
Yeah, I've heard that before.
But what does that mean?
So what did I just buy?
I bought like a raffle and maybe I get on the plane.
No, I'm confused.
Nobody experienced that before.
I'm sorry.
I've had that happen before.
Wait, what do you mean?
I literally bought a ticket and they're like, buying a ticket doesn't guarantee you a seat on the plane.
I swear.
This is South Africa.
How about this with Southwest?
It was Miami to 100%.
I've heard that happen before.
The biggest problem that I have with this is combo.
They got to bump somebody.
If someone says, I'm too big, let me say this.
The biggest problem I have with this is that the antithesis of what America should be founded on, which should be a meritocracy.
The better you do, the more you read, the more you learn, the more you try, the more you stay in shape, the better the reward mechanism should be.
The problem with this victim culture right now is they're rewarding the people that shouldn't be rewarded.
And we have to use language to coddle them to make them feel like, so that now they're not fat or obese.
They're customers of size.
Of what size?
I have a size two.
It's just a size two or four.
The reality is you should be paying double.
Your fat ass should sitting in two seats, pay double.
But now you want to give them two free seats?
It's like, remember when the people were like, now we're going to be doing a people who have horrible credit scores and have been late on their bills, we're going to give them a better mortgage price than the people who actually have good credit scores that have been paying all their bills on time.
It's backwards.
it's illogical no wonder people are like where do i sign up for that yeah Yeah.
By the way, when I sit next to someone and they're like, like obese, I tell them off the jump because they're, I'm like, listen, if you're a shoulder blubber and your tricep is lame, I'm taking a nap on you.
I tell them.
I'm like, I'm going to use you.
Were you going to say something?
Well, as the only, I would say, out of shape person in the room.
Rob, but you're still saying, but you sell it.
Don't do this.
I don't think you qualify for two seat stuff.
No.
But I can tell you this.
You're a great asshole.
Go ahead.
I've started working out eating healthy again.
And part of the reason was because I took a flight and I was uncomfortable in the one seat.
And I went, this is not a fun way to live feeling uncomfortable all the time.
No, instead you're going to get a brand deal.
Exactly.
It's better than mine.
It ends up making people, it incentivizes bad behavior because it doesn't give you any effort to try and change your physical being.
Instead of getting an extra seat, my route is going to be a little bit more.
With your mic on.
Yeah.
I hear him.
You hear him?
I hear him, but I'll keep going.
My route was to start eating healthy, to start working out.
What's the incentive if they're just going to continue to cater for obese people and make it easier and more accommodating for them?
There's no reason for them to try and change their bad habits and try and lose weight and be healthy.
I would fuck for you, Rob.
You know what?
This vault's on you, bro.
I would make that much there.
This buds for you.
On behalf of Dylan.
All right, so let's go to the next one.
Next story here.
As media, more media layoffs ring in the New Year.
Americans face prospect of news dessert.
This is deeply concerning, folks.
Let's see what this is.
The media industry is grappling with an alarming surge in newsroom layoffs during the holiday season further exasperate.
Exas exacerbated.
Exacerbated.
Great way.
Say the word?
Exacerbated.
Exacerbated.
Yeah, exactly.
No, you didn't get it.
Yes, I did.
Emily, you've been writing a lot of stuff today.
You failed to get it.
Exacerbated.
Oh, yeah.
In your market of job cuts, prominent outlets such as Condy Nest, GeoMedia, Vice Media, and Vox Media have recently downsized their staff, contributing to a 48% increase in journalism job cuts in 2023 compared to previous years.
The decline in media jobs is attributed to the crumbling advertising revenue model and the increasing reliance on artificial intelligence for content creation.
Experts emphasize the urgency for public and governmental support to sustain journalism and prevent the emergence of widespread news desserts.
Deserts.
Desserts.
Victor.
Yeah.
Fun fact, PBD.
Desserts have two S's because it's so good.
Desert's one S. Listen.
Because I don't know what they want to live in.
And you teach me English.
For years, I've been trying to do this for you, PBD.
People are listening to this.
You're distracting the shit out of me.
But Victor Picard, a media policy professor, expects legislative efforts to strengthen local journalism, especially at the state government level.
Tom, thoughts on the story.
First of all, it's the decline in ad revenue and AI is hurting us.
We need the government to help.
Look at the underlying statement here.
Why is there a decline in ad revenue?
People aren't reading or buying what you're publishing.
And so there's less demand for it.
The other part of this is kind of about AI.
About a week ago, Ross Levinson, who was the publisher of Sports Illustrated, was relieved of his position as part of an acquisition, but he was also relieved of his position because Sports Illustrated apparently, and I know Ross, wherever you are, Ross, I hope you're doing well in the next chapter.
You got good hair, though.
Is that the guy?
Yeah.
I had no clue.
Actually, I love Ross.
What a great person.
Ross is a good guy.
I remember him from the early mobile wars, and he was with Fox, and he was a good ally in the early mobile wars in Los Angeles.
You know, I was rather, you know, as a colleague, I was, you know, I had a high opinion of him.
But something happened here where they created these AI-generated reporters with fake bios, posted it as the writer of the story, and used AI to write the stories.
Now, to me, that sounds like a cost-saving measure where you're just trying to create now, was creating a fake reporter.
How much of Ross knows?
Who knows?
Not to debate that.
But this is an example where they were trying to use AI to save money and write the stories.
But what happened was, you know, somebody, oh my gosh, Adam is suddenly breakdancing in the middle of the studio.
He's doing a low crawling star.
Anyway, anyway, so we're back to more of those deserts.
And there's also an underlying thing here.
So, number one, you know, they fire Ross part of an MA thing, and because they say there were AI reporters that were writing stories, so it wasn't real and it was deceiving the subscribers.
Okay, fine, but they were trying to save money and using it.
But the real issue here, why does ad revenue decline?
You don't have enough people watching it so that you can charge Kraft to advertise the macaroni and cheese.
That's it.
It's very simple economics.
Kraft says, you get a whole bunch of moms on there and kids are there, then I'm going to be advertising my mac and cheese on you.
Trust me.
And if it makes my mac and cheese sell more, I'm going to buy even more ads.
That's not the problem.
The problem is people is places like X, where a huge percent of people said that they were using X as a news scrape or as news in the morning.
And guess what?
People are getting news off social media, off news feeds, off independent newsletters.
And increasingly, they don't go to their local newspaper or to their favorite thing.
I enjoy Business Insider.
It's not a plug, but it's Business Insider Now, not Insider.
You want to know why?
Because even they were having a hard time getting subscribers on Insider.
So they've laid off a bunch of people, right-sized the organization.
They went back and they called it Business Insider, heading for the niche with a smaller group.
It's happening everywhere.
And there's a whole lot of it that is due to social media giving the stories immediately and pretty compelling way.
So, I don't wait till tomorrow to see it from the LA Times or Sports Illustrated.
I think you're so right that the not the problem, but kind of the problem is the accessibility.
I mean, I'm 22, and when I was like deciding my career path in journalism, a one, um, my agent, who I thought was crazy at the time, shout out to Wasserman, um, was like, Why is your goal to work on X Network?
Like, I was like, Get me a local news job, then I'll grow up and up and up.
And he's like, You're starting your own podcast.
And I was like, Are you crazy?
No one's gonna watch it.
But I think the problem, quote unquote, is that like I could become just avidly tweeting on X and I could grow my following.
And guess what?
I have my own audience, which means like then I'll bring in a sponsor and grab my own revenue.
But everyone could do the same thing.
And then it's by the way, I don't know any of those listed, any of those media companies.
I probably have never even heard of them.
Not because I'm ignorant.
I just, that's, I don't know, I guess as a gen zero, I don't see that.
You also have an informed point of view on Israel and political things that people would find to be newsworthy and they would trust it.
Right.
It would be their news on that topic.
Exactly.
But I'm saying they would probably hear it from me and my podcast and my microphone, wherever that may be.
It's not going to be like on your traditional medias because now you don't need to technically watch the news anymore to find out the news.
Like, I'm always on the go.
All you guys, nobody's sitting here home all day.
You're on X, you're on Instagram.
You're on maybe you have like some news app on your phone.
It's likely one channel, not like three or four that you're alternating between.
So why would they not go out of business?
Because social media is the future.
My agent's been saying it for five years, and he's right.
They're taking over.
Who's going to sit on and watch TV all day?
Anyone?
Guys, you guys are worried about what she did.
Did she scare you a little bit?
Is it in this room?
The newsroom.
I co-sign her, Messi.
She's right.
And by the way, here's the other thing.
By the way, you know, if a 52-year-old heard what she just said, they're still not happy with what she just said.
I know.
By the way, I explained to a lot of older people.
They are not happy about this because she's right.
And that's the direction it's going.
And these teleprompter gangsters that are up there reading what somebody else wrote, we saw what happened when there was the strike with writers strike and actors strike and what Jimmy Fallon Kimmel.
A lot of these guys couldn't do what they were doing because the writers couldn't write the jokes.
I'm like, holy shit.
I'm not funny anymore.
What do I do now, right?
I can't entertain people anymore.
The podcast game is a very different game.
It's very, very hard, very hard to do.
And some of these guys are going to have to compete in that marketplace.
And it's going to be catastrophic for many of them.
Filtering process is here and it's a beautiful thing.
And we'll see who's going to survive, who's not going to survive.
And by the way, I also, I love community notes because they've been doing such a good job trying to Twitter.
Yeah, like whatever, ex-Twitter.
They're trying to limit the misinformation by understanding this is the future of our news sources.
So the least they can do is community notes to F out of everyone.
Fantastic.
Let's go to, I want to do three more stories.
We got, yeah, we got time for three more stories.
Do we hit the border first?
Do we hit what do you call it? Minnesota with Stephen A. Smith?
Do we hit Epstein?
Pick the story.
I wanted to think about it.
Minnesota is not even a story.
Like someone's text got leaked.
Good.
Shouldn't have been a business.
Next.
Like, why is there even a story?
Like, I'm so sick of athletes being like getting into the personal life.
Unless they're beating their wife or punching someone in the face on the court or off the court.
Their personal life should not be our business.
You just offended Adam.
Adam, go ahead.
Because this is very upset with the story.
Go ahead, Adam.
Beat my wife.
Oh, my God.
Stephen A. Smith.
Go ahead.
Anthony Edwards text message leak.
It's none of our damn business.
So ESPN Express is concerned, Stephen A. Smith, over the controversy involving Minnesota Timber War star Anthony Edwards.
I know there's not a big sports audience out there, but this is actually a cultural conversation about abortions, what's going on with probably one of the leading MVP candidates in the NBA right now, Anthony Edwards, who was the best player on the USA team over the summer in the world.
Closest thing to Michael Jordan in the NBA right now.
Yeah, okay.
Tell me who today.
I thought I said he is.
My bad.
He is the closest thing to Michael Jordan in the game today.
Today.
It's extreme soon to be talking like that.
But give me a name of somebody in the NBA today that's got the closest game to Michael today.
Game style.
There's no, not anyway.
It would probably be him.
I mean, obviously he's a poor man's Jordan.
Who do you put ahead of him?
I don't put anyone.
I don't like that comparison.
I guess.
I don't mean to offend you.
It's just our friend.
How could I live?
That's the one thing she got offended by today.
Free speech absolutist, but don't call me.
Don't question Michael Jordan.
So he's facing back.
Adam, you were saying that.
Private text messages were leaked revealing that he encouraged an abortion with this girl that he was casually dating.
And he sent her $100,000.
She was an Instagram model, so you can imagine what she looks like.
Stephen A. Smith responds because he does that with every situation out there.
Let me say this: Anthony Edwards had to apologize only because he's a public figure.
Smith questioned the repercussions faced by individuals who expose private messages in the public, essentially doxing.
I'm wondering why some law is going to come into place where people like Anthony Edwards and others can retaliate legally for folks putting their private messages on blast.
It's none of our business.
He emphasized that they need to protect privacy rights in such situations.
So the story, long and short, is he knocked her up.
There were text messages basically saying he's like, so what you going to do with that thing?
And she, and she's like, she was a horrible disgusting person.
Here's 100 grand.
He's like, yeah, have the abortion.
She's like, $100,000 abortion?
Well, her whole thing was she said that she had an abortion two years ago where it would have been a boy.
She said, I lost my son and now I regret it.
She put him or killed him.
Was this three years ago?
Exactly.
No, no, no.
That's what's going on now.
But she's telling him the reason I don't want to get an abortion today because that I got abortion.
Well, she's also read the Sean Kemp playbook.
It's called Have the Child, Get Child Support, Contact an Agent and see if you can get, you know, but here's the wedding ring and her bottom lip was bit by a B. Look at that.
You know, welcome to Instagram model life.
But the reality is he already sent her the hundred grand.
Oh, okay.
And then after she starts looking for text messages.
What a wreck.
50 now, 50 later.
But I feel bad if this kid ever is born.
I mean, we're in social media.
Nothing gets deleted.
He's going to grow up and they'll be like, you know what happened, why you're alive.
You know, your father wanted to abort you.
Your mother's.
Like, that's the reality of the situation today.
And that's her fault.
Listen, if people want to be pro-life, if people want to be pro-choice, cool, it's all good.
Do that behind closed doors.
But the fact that you're putting people on blast and basically sort of like blackmailing them into making sure that you can have this be- No wonder Iran hates us.
I'm joking.
No, that's not funny.
No, but like being the only one of estrogen in this room, I hope.
Don't assume.
I'm sorry.
No, I just think that there's two separate issues.
The morality of airing someone's private business, which is to me, just wrong.
It's like clout chasing 101.
Like this girl's horrible.
I think like she's a disgusting woman.
And your child's going to be humiliated.
That's the point you brought up.
But B, it's like, it's not our business.
And then C, it's like the only reason it's an issue is because, like you said, it's part of the left agenda.
Like, oh, normalize abortion, blah, blah, blah.
And she was trying to air that.
But like, I just think, do whatever you want to do.
Like, as someone, I think abortion's horrible.
And I would never put myself in a situation to need one.
I think someone needs to do a better job talking to these guys.
Like, why every, why are NBA players always knocking girls up?
Why is this always a story?
Why does Zion have like eight baby mamas coming out saying, oh, he knocked me up too and I got an abortion?
Like, it's really not that hard to not get someone pregnant in today's day and age.
And instead, this shit's happening because people are stupid and chasing clout.
You know who you're sleeping with.
I'm sorry.
Look how she looks.
Does that not scream?
I want to get knocked up and post it and steal your money for the next 18 years.
She looks like a perfectly classy girl.
What are you talking about?
I saw a girl like that at church.
I saw that same exact look at church.
Oh, I'm still going to get Kenzie.
Look at that.
You're asking why.
By the way, she may qualify for two seats on Southwest Airlines.
Look at that.
There you go.
Yes or no?
You can't fit that on one.
She's called a twofer.
And maybe what she's saying is they need to change.
Like, can you imagine if they staple center or some of these arenas, they change their name?
Welcome to the Trojan Center.
No, they got to go.
They got to do it.
Yeah, they got to do it.
Magnum Center.
Magnum Center, Trojan Center.
You asked why these guys knocked these girls up.
I mean, you know that I have friends in the NBA and have been around this world.
There's something called Jersey Chasers or Cleat Chasers or Jersey Jumpers or Homie Hoppers.
This is their business model.
They're hot.
They're Instagram models.
Why are they not those?
Well, that's not that.
Keep putting that.
Put your pants back on.
They might not be your version of hop, but there was a guy that's called Sir Mixalot that had a song called Baby Got Back.
And he said, I want a girl that got bun, son.
So that's what these guys are into.
These are the Instagram type models that these NBA guys are basically surrounding with.
After the game, there's called the post-game passes.
I go down there because I've been with friends and do all that.
And you see the girls that get the post-game passes.
They're not the wives.
They're not the girlfriends.
They're these girls.
They get a couple extra passes after the game.
Anthony Edwards, he plays in Minnesota.
Believe me, if he's in Miami or in Phoenix or Dallas for a couple of nights, these girls show up to the game.
He's repopulating.
I'm just letting you know he's enjoying his time off.
I just don't understand why you don't wrap it up, homie.
Because it feels better than Europe.
It feels better.
Well, I hope you feel better cutting $100,000 checks or alimony or child support.
Sean Kemp needs to do a one-on-one course and get up there and say, guys, these are, how many kids did Sean Kemp have?
He had a lot of them.
I think he had nine.
I was just saying.
And it basically bankrupted him.
Thanks for looking up Homie Hopper, Rob.
See that again?
Sean Kemp has how many kids?
Sean Kemp had one of the best.
Is that the cart?
Did I just see the chart of kids coming in?
You know, you're putting in work when there's a chart to show how much work.
Seven children with six different women.
Would have said he's got six kids with seven different women.
Anyways, let's talk about the story.
This is great.
You know, let's go to the last one here.
Over 170 people with Epstein.
Links likely to be named in court docs, set to be unsealed in upcoming weeks.
And let's see this here.
Manhattan federal judge Loretta Presca, who needs hardcore protection, by the way.
No, ordered the release of long-sealed court documents in a defamation lawsuit filed by Jeffrey Epstein, accused of Virginia Roberts, against Jelaine Maxwell in 2015.
This decision will likely lead to the identification of over 170 individuals associated with Epstein, some of whom have previously been referred to as Jane Doz or John Does in court filing.
This ruling, the ruling gives these individuals 14 days to appeal, and it mentions that some of them have already spoken publicly about their connections to Epstein, either as former employees or victims.
Name of some of the individuals involved, such as these, those mentioned the Epstein Little Black Book, are considered public figures.
So interesting.
This judge could be a billionaire in the next few weeks if she wanted to.
She needs protection.
All of these guys are talking to each other right now, saying, what do we do?
I wonder what Leon Black is doing right now.
Maybe he needs some estate planning.
Epstein.
Epstein and his lawyer better do something about this, or otherwise he could get killed.
You think they're actually going to let the—because this is big.
This is big because they're saying a bunch of the people that were helping, the victims, the stories, everything's going to start coming out after the new year.
Well, Jesse Waters asked RFK.
RFK said he was on the plane twice, and it was with his wife and his kids because his wife was friends with Jelaine.
And he came out and said, I want this thing to be public so everybody knows about the flight.
I want everybody to know who those names are.
Go ahead and do it.
These are flights to the island or just flights with him.
Big difference.
70 people Epstein links to be named.
What that means, no one knows because those are two different things.
I mean, he makes a good point because RFK supposedly was linked to him because they were hitting up for charitable donations and the Kennedy Foundation.
And that's RFK's point.
Make it all public.
Make it all out there.
My wife were on the plane.
This guy was a player moving money around for charities and for political purposes.
And so twice I was on his plane with them.
Nothing to see here.
Broadcast it, put it out there.
That's why I believe RFK on that.
Other people that don't want, let's put it this way.
If the plane was going north and south from West Palm Beach to New York and it was charitable and it was at the same time they're doing the Kennedy Center fundraisers and stuff, okay.
But if you're on the plane that's going east and west, you probably have some problems.
Yeah, if you got something to hide, you have something to hide.
Yeah, it doesn't help.
Well, it doesn't help when Dick Durbin is trying to block subpoenas to find out, like, here's the thing.
Protect the pedophile.
Yeah, Dick Durbin's a lot.
Hey, Adam, what happened last week?
I got Dick Durbin.
But listen, my point is.
Didn't Mark Walbert play him?
But by the way, this has been going on for how long?
We have Gillaine Maxwell.
The fact that not everything is out in the open, because listen, explain yourself.
I could see Tom before he got arrested and people now know that he's a pedophile and he's a sex trafficker.
If you were flying there to the island after, like, you got to explain yourself.
You know he's a pedophile.
You know he's arrested for trafficking kids.
Why are you going there, Bill?
That's a good point because RFK went in 93 is when he said his flight records were 93 before any of this was public.
I think we just need to understand that we can't just basically make people guilty before they've been proven innocent or disciplinable.
That's a new trend in America.
Of course.
And that's my point.
Because if we want to make everybody guilty and then just say, if you've been on a flight with Epstein or even been to his island, then you should go to jail.
Well, you know who's going to jail?
Donald Trump.
Yeah.
Bill Clinton.
Not the pedophile.
Alan Greenspan, RFK.
So it's nuanced because a lot of these people were probably blackmailed by Epstein.
Right?
We've done the playbook.
We're like, yeah, you come, have a good time.
Everything.
By the way, then he's like, but you know, there's a camera in the bathroom.
There's a camera in your bathroom.
There's a camera.
So a lot of it was a setup, a hatchet job, something like that.
So it does take some nuance.
But anyone who just was on a plane with Epstein isn't guilty of anything.
What did they do on that island?
Is I think we need to find out.
True.
And let's hear the people that were there.
Okay, here we go.
That's the show.
Two hours.
Emily Austin.
Good to have you on.
Thanks for having me.
Where can people find you, your show?
My show is called The Hoop Chat.
It's primarily on socials.
You could find me, Emily Austin, on Instagram at Emily.Austin, Twitter, at EmilyRAustin.
But if she wants to give me my username back, I'll take it.
And I'm banned from TikTok, but you could find me at Emily R. Austin.
You're banned from TikTok.
There you go.
I'm a Zionist, guys.
Can we put some of that stuff below so people can find it?
