The Man Who Found Hunter Biden's Laptop w/ John Paul Mac Issac | PBD Podcast | Ep. 170
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0:00 - Intro
3:27 - The history about Hunter Biden's laptop
22:25 - What John Paul Mac Issac doesn't want to reveal
27:58 - CNN doesn't want to focus on the case
40:00 - John Paul Mac Issac tells about his life after the Hunter case
44:56 - How social media controlling people's life
50:20 - Have conservatives stood up in this case?
54:05 - Do parents need to be responsible for the children's behavior?
1:13:30 - Elon musk and Twitter conflict
1:32:07 - Martin Cooper the inventor of the first telephone
1:42:29 - A network outage at one of Canada’s telecom giants has hobbled mobile and internet services around the country
1:48:50 - The difference between capitalism and socialism
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Okay.
Happy 7-Eleven Day.
We have a special guest here for you.
Matter of fact, when he walked into the building, guys, everybody held on to their laptops.
It was like, you have to see this thing because, you know, in the history of mankind, I think we have to preface this properly.
If you can set this up, in the history of mankind, go one more, the one I sent you, the link I sent you.
I don't know if you got it or not.
There's been many special laptops.
Okay, you zoom into this.
It's 40 years of history of laptops, guys.
I mean, with how laptops changed the world.
Go down.
Let's go through the first one.
The first ever laptop.
Go a little lower, a little lower.
Oh, my God.
It's a 1981 Osborne, the world's first truly mobile computer.
Look at that.
Good screen.
I mean, listen, Mac's got nothing on that.
Look at that system, right?
They're just incredible, floppy disks, right?
First laptop.
Go to the next one that's legendary.
Then you got the 1983 Grid Compass 1101, the first clamshell laptop.
Okay.
Go to the next one.
Keep going.
Then we got the 1989 Compact LTE Compact LT286, the first notebook PC.
I've seen Adam with that one before, I think.
When he goes to Miami, he takes that one with him.
Keep going.
It is pretty sick.
Then he got the 1986 Macintosh Portable, the first Apple laptop.
Bam.
This is I think by the team of Wozniak's team, I think.
I think it was Wozniak's team.
Keep going, keep going, keep going.
Then we got the 1991 Apple Power Book 100 series, a revolutionary early laptop.
Keep going, keep going, keep going.
Then we got the 1992 IBM ThinkPad 700, a powerful and iconic laptop.
But none of these laptops, Tyler, have the kind of influence that the other laptop, if you want to put it up.
This is the laptop of the century, folks.
And this laptop was brought to a shop by today's guest, John Paul Mac Isaac.
10 minutes before he's about to close his shop.
He's just like, listen, I want to go home.
I want to relax.
I want to have, I don't know, maybe he's a green tea type of a person before I go to sleep.
And then this man knocks on the door.
He opens the door and he's going to tell you the story who it was.
But the world wants to learn about this laptop.
There's about 95 channels that are not talking about it.
There's only one channel and a couple podcasts that are talking about it.
And we said, you know, why don't we reach out and bring him out to the podcast to tell us a little bit about this laptop.
So with that being said, John Paul, Paul MacIsaac, it's great to have you on.
Thanks for having me.
Yes.
You know, yesterday we were having a podcast prep meeting and Adam was concerned.
His concern was if you were going to wear that hat or not.
Because for Adam, who's never served before, there's like an respect you have for military, all that stuff.
Big time.
So, but anyways, it's great to have you on here.
For people that don't know, if you don't mind taking a minute, giving everybody your background and how the story came about with Hunter Biden's laptop.
Well, it was Friday night, about 10 minutes before closing, and Hunter came in with three liquid damaged MacBooks.
And I can tell you for a fact, that was not one of them.
That is a photo, probably part of a disinformation operation, but we can go into that later.
He showed up.
By the way, just out of curiosity, is the actual laptops picture anywhere online?
No.
So you never took a picture of it?
No.
You don't have a video of the laptop?
No.
I have the serial number.
But you didn't take any videos or anything with the laptop.
I wanted that thing out of my shop.
No shit.
You know, it was number one priority was to get it to the authorities so I could have some level of protection.
Okay, so go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Continue.
So he came in, the 15-inch MacBook Pro had a Bo Biden foundation sticker on it.
So I kind of instantly assumed, because his brother had passed away, I believe, about a year before, that these were his deceased brother's laptops.
Because a lot of customers come in and they want to recover their memories off of their deceased loved ones.
devices.
So it is a common thing.
And I felt bad for the guy.
And even though I was trying to get out of there, I was like, look, he's got three Macs.
I would normally charge $200 a pop for data recovery.
Let me see the severity of the failure.
So I helped him out.
One machine was a complete write-off.
The other machine just had missing or inoperable keys from liquid damage.
So I gave him a keyboard and I showed him how to, that's how I learned his password.
So if there's any question on hacking, usually people that get hacked don't voluntarily give away their passwords in that process.
John Paul, you're in Delaware, correct?
Yep, Wilmington.
Okay, so that's Biden country, so to speak.
I live about 10 miles from when he walked in, did you know exactly who he was?
I know you're visually impaired.
Where does that come into play here?
I didn't know who I was talking to until he presented the Bo Biden thing.
And when I was checking him in, at the actual check-in process, I asked him who he was.
And he was like, Hunter.
And then obviously you just knew exactly who that was rather than there.
When he sarcastically said Biden, when I requested his last name, because I think he just automatically anticipated me knowing who he was, then I was like, all right.
And then the Bo Biden sticker kind of put everything together.
But again, I never really cared what he looked like or who he was, for that matter.
And this is in 2019?
This is April 12th, 2019.
Got it.
So I give him back the one machine.
The third machine had some power issues, wouldn't power on.
So I had to take it into the back and check that one in.
So I ultimately just created a bill that said data recovery for three Macs because I hadn't gone through them yet and $85, which is basically the lowest rate that I could charge somebody.
And because, again, at that time, I thought I was helping this guy who was inebriated.
He looked a mess, and I thought he was grieving.
This is his deceased brother's things.
So I didn't discover until I started doing the data recovery the following day that this was not his deceased brother's laptops.
These were actually his.
And then I saw a lot of compromising, a lot of embarrassing material on the laptop.
But again, this was April 12th.
There were 13, 14, 15.
So this wasn't, his dad wasn't running for president yet.
So, and I never thought he would because it was Joe.
He was kind of in declining years.
So I really didn't get afraid until about a couple weeks later when his father announced his candidacy.
And I realized that there's probably going to be a member on his staff or a Secret Service member that's going to find this piece of paperwork authorizing me to recover data from these three laptops.
And if they know what's on those laptops, then I'm the only one on the planet that knows about that behavior.
And I thought my days were numbered.
So I needed to, when it became my property about mid-July, about three years ago, I knew that I needed to get it to the authorities, but I didn't trust local authorities.
I didn't trust the FBI.
Roger Stone was raided, I think, in January, that previous January.
So I had definitely apprehensions about going to the FBI.
So I went to the only person I really trusted, and that was my father.
And in September of 2019, on a car ride back from a gunship reunion in Utah.
It was like a seven-hour drive back to Denver and mom's asleep in the back so I figured this is a good time to explain my situation to my father and I told him everything and not everything.
He didn't want to know certain things for plausible deniability but we both agreed that the best thing for him to do was get him the paperwork, get him a copy of the drive so he could approach the FBI out in Albuquerque.
And about this time, my mom woke up and she made this statement.
She goes, that sounds like the laptop from hell.
So needless to say, she's pretty upset with Miranda Devine for stealing the title of the book.
So on October 8th, after I mailed my father a copy of the drive and gave him all the paperwork or copies of the paperwork, he went to the FBI field office in Albuquerque, where an agent refused to give his name, kind of harassed my father, questioned motives, questioned the legality of the possession of the device, and basically told him to lawyer up and get out of the office.
And this is the first time my father, who's a career, 31-year career colonel in the Air Force, never asked anything from the bureaucracy, basically.
And so he was a bit disappointed that all he wanted was protection for his son.
So about a month later, apparently it got the attention of someone because the FBI reached out to him in an effort to get a hold of me.
We agreed and the FBI came to my house.
I explained the situation in about beginning of November, about mid-November.
And I presented them with some stuff I had printed up because during this time, the impeachment hearings had started.
Or there was whispers of it.
It was getting close.
There was now the big concern, sure, I'm fearful of my safety.
I've definitely witnessed criminal activity on this device.
But now there's an impeachment that's whispers of impeachment that's occurring over a phone call about the previous administration in Ukraine.
And I had seen enough information on that laptop to know that there was a blatant pay-for-play scheme.
The Bidens made out like bandits during the 2014 Ukrainian conflict.
And in my opinion, from what I had seen, President Trump had every reason to call Zelensky, considering Zelensky was created by Igor Kolomoyski, who was Hunter Biden's business partner.
And when the Bidens could no longer protect Kolomoyski and his billions that he embezzled during the Ukraine conflict, Kolomoyski did the next best thing.
He made his own president.
He took his prize actor from his TV series or TV station and groomed him to be the president, got him elected.
So now he doesn't have to worry.
First thing Zelensky did when he got elected was the privatization of Profita Bank, which was Igor's bank.
He made that illegal.
So Igor could have his bank back, have his money back, and return to the country.
So it was, and to watch what's happening in Ukraine happen all over again, it's scary, except this time we're sending 40 billion instead of 18 billion.
John, what would you say, I mean, if you can even say it, besides the, you know, the Ukraine and all that type of stuff, what was the most disturbing thing that you saw that you, I don't know if you told anybody, but was there anything that would make you go like, oh my God, like he should be in prison for this 100%?
Yeah.
I think I know where you're getting at.
And there has been a lot of efforts by a lot of individuals out there to metaphorically or not literally insert fake data onto this laptop.
And there's a couple reasons why somebody would want to do this.
They either want to get notoriety and fame for something that they have zero involvement in, or there's an effort to insert questionable material into a laptop that's in the possession of members of Congress.
So if you wanted to punish certain members of Congress, then you have an excuse to say, especially if they received copies of a drive that has this alleged material from an individual that may have put this material on it.
And the other concern that we should be careful, like Hunter signed a document.
After 90 days, that laptop became my property.
If there's another laptop out there that has 450 gigs of mysteriously discovered 80,000 images of this or whatever, that came from something else that was not legally acquired.
So if you start to muddy the waters, and then we're expected to have something that's going to be admitted as evidence and hopefully trials that will occur in the next couple years, we can't have that information be tainted.
And we can't have somebody throw it all out because somebody decided to run an operation to lie about the contents of the data.
So we have to be really careful.
I didn't see any CP in the levels that people were talking.
I saw a lot of inappropriate behavior with family members.
And that's all I'm going to talk about.
Wow.
Inappropriate behavior with family members?
Okay, let me speculate.
I'm going to speculate.
You know, you can decide to say whatever you want to say.
Speculative, inappropriate content with family members.
So it would be drugs, it would be sex, it would be theft, it would be accounts, it would be what else it would be.
I mean, that's what it's going to be.
Outside of that, what else would be in there, right?
Again, like I've always told people, there's enough criminal material on that laptop.
We don't need to make up anything.
We don't need to find a dark place in our minds where we want to believe that there's this evil that's on it.
There's enough evil on it.
We don't need to make up.
Who has the laptops now?
Well, the FBI should.
They took it from me, gave me a subpoena and everything and a receipt.
And that was December 9th, 2019.
If they've lost it, I still have the copy that I gave my father, which predates the copy I gave to Rudy or Rudy's office, because I never gave it to Rudy.
Did you sign off that you can never talk about what's in the laptop?
Did you say that to the FBI or no?
The only thing I remotely said to the FBI like that was jokingly when they were leaving, I said, don't worry, lads, when I write the book, I'll leave your names out.
And that's when one agent turned around and said, in our experience, nothing ever happens to people that don't talk about these things.
And I was like, all right, I'm going to be quiet.
So you've never told anything to anybody about the laptop.
Well, not until I reached out directly to Rudy Giuliani's office.
So when the FBI took possession of everything, my fingers were crossed because I was hoping, even though a lot of red flags occurred, they told me that if anybody or Hunter came looking for it, I was to give them a BS story that it's off-site and give me a couple days to get it.
I was immediately to text Agent Mike and he would return the laptop to me.
So I'm thinking, if this is evidence, how can they return it?
And that's kind of where I started to feel like they cared more about the owner, the previous owner of the laptop, and protecting them than they did about protecting me.
So, and of course, when the impeachment happened and this laptop was nowhere to be seen and it wasn't admitted as evidence for the defense from the White House, then I was just like, okay, we need to go to another level here.
So I sent my father and my uncle, who's also a retired colonel in the Air Force, to, I gave them enough material, basically the material I had printed up and given to the, tried to give to the FBI, but they didn't touch it.
They just gave me a subpoena, wanted all his stuff, and then left.
So they went out, knocked on members of Congress, their doors to get their attention, alert them.
I even believe my uncle Ron sent a fax to the White House directly saying we have national concern, national security concerns, because not only for a pay-for-play, but just the amount of sensitive data that was being sent in the open, unencrypted, to private Ukrainian citizens.
And this information included everything from the vice president's travel schedule, all policies and procedures, economics, any discussion that the White House would have relating to Ukraine was being sent to a private Ukrainian citizen that worked for a company that was employing the vice president's son.
And that is not cool.
Joe, Paul, it sounds like not only were you fixing the laptop, you were getting in there.
I mean, you were looking at, and this isn't, I don't think, hearsay, there was pornography on there.
There's a lot.
Okay, boom.
There's definitely some smoke and crack stuff going on.
A lot.
Boom.
But then there's this Ukrainian business dealing stuff.
Sounds like you went pretty deep into those emails.
Yeah, absolutely.
When it became my property and I'm thinking somebody's going to kick down my door, I'm waiting for it to happen.
I'm trying desperately.
I called him up multiple times through the month of April and May to come and pick up this.
You called Hunter, you're saying?
And no answer, no messages, nothing.
No text, zero response.
Didn't come back.
I sent him automated square payment requests.
So he was, you know, here, you owe the MaxBox, $85.
Ding.
There was no response whatsoever.
Well, he responded.
So when I called him up, I want to say it was like the 15th.
When I was done with the recovery, it was like the following Monday.
Called him up to let him know, hey, I recovered about 220 gigabytes of data.
Go to Best Buy.
If you get a drive that's 500 gigs or bigger, that'll be more than enough.
Drop it off.
Give me 24 hours, and then I'll knock it out.
So he shows up on the 16th and drops off the drive.
So I know he's getting my messages.
I know he's a drink and dropped off a two terabyte Western digital external drive.
Okay.
So, you know, if he has any doubt where he was on that weekend, I can say that he was at a Best Buy and his credit card is just shit.
But then he never came back to pick up.
Yeah, that's when he asked me to bill him electronically.
I said, is Square okay?
He's like, sure.
And then he never came back in.
So you've had multiple dealings with Hunter Biden.
The first time that he showed up?
First time and then the second time when he came to drop off the drive.
And then after he dropped off the drive, zero response after that.
Zero.
Except until his lawyer called me up on October 13th, 2020, the day before the New York Post ran the story.
So the eve of that.
He called me up because I guess it's common practice for when your story is going to go, you want to reach out to those involved, see if they have a statement.
So he calls me up about 10 minutes before closing on that Tuesday.
And he was like, yeah, my client left a laptop with you.
He said 2017.
So I was like, well, Hunter doesn't remember 2019, but I'll go with it.
So I kind of, I did what the FBI told me to do.
I said, hey, normally we don't hold on to equipment that long, but I'll check in our reclamation center tomorrow.
And can you shoot me an email with your credentials?
And so I know that you can represent, officially represent the client.
And he agreed.
So I have an email saying, hey, I'm Hunter's lawyer.
Thanks for talking to me tonight.
So I was like, well, that's good enough for me.
And then I immediately called Bob Costello, who was my point of contact at Rudy Giuliani's office.
And he was also promised me that if anything ever hit the fan, I was to call him and he'd take care of my security needs.
So I call him up and I'm like, I think it hit the fan.
I just got a call from George Maseris, who's Hunter's lawyer.
And he was like, that ship sailed.
Go home, get some sleep.
Nothing can be done.
The story's coming out tomorrow.
And I'm like, okay, great.
The fact that George Masaris asked me on the phone, he said, are you still at the backside of Trolley Square?
And that was like enough for me not to go home that night because I figured he knew exactly where I was.
And the story hadn't broken yet.
I figured once the story was out, then I would be okay because then I wouldn't be murdered.
So unfortunately, watching the next day, watching the internet and mainstream media put a kibosh on the whole story and prevent the truth from getting out.
And then the narrative is being replaced that I colluded with a foreign power to affect an election.
So things started to go downhill rather quickly after that.
So you would say, John, that there's definitely impeachable stuff on those laptops to get Joe Biden's compromise and his son should be in jail?
I would rather us find the heart in Joe's cabinet to do the 25th Amendment.
I just don't like impeachment.
I did not want Trump to get impeached, not because I'm a Trump fan, but because impeachment, when it starts to be wielded as a tool for a political party to just punish the guy because they don't like him, as opposed to the tool that it's meant to be, that's dangerous.
I mean, there's a reason why we've only had three impeachments.
Well, it was something meant that was never supposed to be used.
They weren't ever supposed to use impeachment.
It's like break glass in case of emergency.
And I didn't like when I was young and I saw what happened to Clinton, and I'm like, well, you know, I get it.
Here's a part.
Here's a part with impeachment.
Bill did what he did, fine.
Okay.
Impeaching Clinton is what I'm talking about.
Set that aside.
What they claimed would Trump for what?
Russia never came out rightly.
He got impeached twice.
Correct.
But set that aside.
Every president, at some point, they talk about impeaching them.
The other party talks about impeaching them.
It's like a couple words that people like to use.
They like to use the name from the guy that was in Germany who, you know, World War II, hey, that's like Hitler tendencies.
And then you like to use impeachment.
But let's set that point.
The part that I want to know a few things, I want to know a few things from your end, and then I want to know some things about the whole situation.
So number one, is there anything in the laptop you saw that you've never told anybody?
There's a couple things.
And why haven't you told anybody?
Well, I've never thought it was my responsibility to tell anybody other than the authorities.
And I get it.
I never wanted to go to the media.
I never wanted to go to the press.
And I know why, and that's because I knew the media would focus on the sex and the drugs and not the wholesale of our State Department for personal gain or the national security concerns or the embarrassment that we will endure when all this comes out.
It's that I saw criminal activity.
I needed to get this to the proper authorities.
The proper authorities bailed.
So I went to members of Congress, not directly, my uncle.
And then when that didn't get any traction, I came out from the shadows because I was, again, scared.
I didn't want to lose my business.
I didn't want to be chased from my home.
I wanted to have nobody know I existed.
But I wanted the truth to get out.
And then I realized the only way that was going to happen is if I knocked on the door of a lawyer for the president of the United States, and that worked.
You say members of Congress, I don't need names, but did you go to Republican, Democrat?
You're in Delaware.
Who'd you go to?
My uncle and my father only approached members of Congress that were conservatives for obvious reasons.
So you went to Republicans and you got rebuffed.
They had no love for what you had to say.
What happened?
So, and I've had discussions with some of these individuals that were presented with this information, and I get it.
We're talking about February through June, July of 2020.
So there was a pandemic going on.
There was also, we're coming off the heels of a Russia, three years of Russia, Russia, Russia.
Everybody is so paranoid of being caught up in another conspiracy, jeopardizing the political embarrassment.
And they have a good reason, because look at what happened with things like Dominion.
You know, conspiracy goes out there.
Oh, Dominion's changing all these votes around.
And then they prove it's wrong.
Now Dominion gets to file a $16.7 million or billion dollar lawsuit and go after all the people that got hooked into this disinformation, these disinformation poys.
And that's why I warned Congress again when there was an individual out in Switzerland trying to say he's found 400 and he's given these drives.
We saw, who's that?
The young guy.
He was paraded around Congress going, I have a copy of the drive.
He was on C-Speed.
Yeah, yeah.
I forgot the name of the guy.
Yeah, a young kid.
So no Republicans were even willing to listen to your story?
The patirical guard intercepted my uncle and my father and never let them get past the door.
So let me go back.
Let me go back to the question.
So I want to stay focused on this.
So there's a couple things you said that no one knows about, that's only you, that you've kept to yourself.
Are those couple things like tremendously big than what the public has already been rumored that was in the laptop?
Or no?
It's just a couple things you just kept away from everybody.
Well, again, I never felt like it was my responsibility to share the.
No, but that's not what I'm asking.
What I'm asking is those things that you've kept to yourself, are they much bigger and heavier stuff than all the other things?
Personally, yes.
Okay.
But for the country and for the purpose of why I gave it to the laptop, no.
It's more of, through Hunter's behavior, I should have a fear for my life.
Okay, so it's more speculation, Hunter with a minor, than it is about link to the president and what he did with Ukraine or deals, side deals, right?
It's more personal, linked to Hunter, not linked to the father.
It's linked to Hunter.
Okay, perfect.
So let's set that aside.
That's, you know, Hunter's dealing that he's got to go deal with.
Okay.
So those two things, the couple things that you haven't told anybody, have you told that to the person you trust the most, which is your father?
Does anybody know, or is it just you?
You're the only person?
No, people I trust know.
Okay, so what I would say to you is I probably wouldn't hang on to that because if you do, you're not protected.
You know, and I'm not, I don't know if you understand what I'm saying here, because if you're sitting on, I was like, you know, all of a sudden let's put on suicide watch.
That's kind of how people get put on suicide watches.
No, I had to make that video a long time ago.
Yeah.
You did make that video.
Oh, yeah.
What he's basically asking you about.
Well, no, so no.
You don't think secrets are.
Yeah, like I'm if I show up.
I'm not going to kill him.
Exactly.
I'm not going to kill him.
Like a John McAfee.
I am never going to commit suicide, just so you guys know in jail.
You don't get into heaven, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Why would I screw you out?
So a couple things that you haven't told anybody.
So, okay, so the stuff that's linked on the other side.
See, for me, when it comes down to this, here's how I see this.
And, you know, commentary from your end.
So at this point, everybody knows the media held that story back.
They didn't want it to go up.
Twitter prevented it.
Facebook prevented it.
Everybody knows that to the point where even Bill Maher called out Twitter and everybody else to not tell that story.
And we knew that was going to affect the election.
Everybody knew that, but they kept it away.
That story was going viral on Twitter in the first 30 minutes, whatever it was.
Boom, taken down.
But even Bill Maher, who were big fans of Bill Maher, comes down and says, what the hell are you doing?
And even a Jon Stewart interviewing Bob Iger says, what the hell is going on with media that nobody trusts him, right?
Okay.
So you got two guys.
By the way, I feel I'm not a guy that supports Biden's style of leadership.
But for a father, as a father, you don't want to see your son go through that.
It's painful.
I can see that being very, very painful for the family, okay, from the Biden side.
So whatever Hunter has done, you know, you're going to have kids.
Sometimes your kids are going to do stuff that's going to be embarrassing, and that's not, you know, your responsibility.
That kid is going to be held responsible based on the laws and the guidelines that the states offer and the federal offers.
He's going to be held accountable to that if they pursue him, right?
But stuff that he did that has to do with the rest of the people, that has to do with the voters and the people he leads, that's a different story.
When everybody kept saying Russia, Russia, Russia, you know what happened to a lot of Republicans behind closed doors and independents?
You know what people said?
Maybe this is true.
And if it's true, man, what are you doing selling out America to Russia?
I'm not okay for that.
You know, even conservative, if this is true, let me tell you, I'm not with it.
I knew a lot of people that said, I'm not with it if this is true.
And it wasn't true.
But this is true.
People are seeing it and no one's talking about it.
This is when hypocrisy hurts these guys.
Right here, when you look at this article saying you failed, Bill Maher blasts Twitter for censoring post after bombshell report on Hunter Biden's laptop.
So I just went on Twitter right now.
Can you go on Google right now and type in Hunter Biden laptop?
Go on Google and type in Hunter Biden laptop.
Okay.
And zoom in a little bit so we can all see it.
Zoom in, zoom in, zoom in.
So go and click on news.
Go and click on news.
Yeah, news.
Zoom in a little bit more.
So New York Post, center right.
Yahoo is just only covering what he said to his mom, which I think he called her a spoiled C-word, right?
I think he called her.
Yeah, okay.
Next is what?
Washington Times, center-right.
Keep going, Laura.
New York Post, Fox News, Fox News, right?
Gazette.
Okay, so then go on YouTube.
Go on YouTube and just go straight up on YouTube.
Yeah, and type in, go on CNN, YouTube channel.
Just go on CNN.
Okay.
Just go to their channel.
Click on CNN right there.
Go to videos.
Go to videos.
Okay.
Now, go sort by recent.
So go up, zoom in a little bit so the rest of us can see.
Not popular.
It's fine the way it is.
So zoom in, the rest of us can see.
Let's look at titles.
Okay, here's what January 6th.
Okay.
Man who said he was almost a school shooter.
Okay.
What's the next title?
Something about Tucker.
Pregnant woman claims.
What's he talking about?
The West side, West risks failure in Ukraine.
Keep going up.
Okay.
Steve Bannis coming up January 6th.
Protesters, GOP governor.
Comedians talk about pranking.
Okay, NASA, Republican voter rejects GOP.
Protesters storm a presidential, whatever.
Elon Musk may be on the hook.
Soldiers, this.
That's how far back now?
Two days, January 6th.
I'm at three days now.
This load.
Okay.
So then type in Hunter Biden.
Okay, nothing with Chen coming out saying, okay, type in Hunter Biden laptop.
Okay.
Go Hunter Biden laptop.
Okay.
So Hunter Biden reveals new detail in Hunter Biden investigation three months ago.
Hunter Biden under investigation one year ago.
Trump pushing for special counsel a year ago.
Stelter, this was Fox News' biggest story last week, a year ago.
U.S. investigation.
Okay, now here's what I want you to do.
Up and type in January 6th and the no and the same part he put in put January 6th okay okay, so how many ago?
Two days ago, two days ago, three days ago, two days ago.
Keep going 22 hours ago, three days ago, five days ago, 10 days.
Hey, mr. John Malone, if you're watching this, you say you want to take CNN back to Ted Turner days.
Why don't you go read his book and see the last interview he does on how disappointed he is with CNN?
This is exactly why.
This is why, when you claim, can you put John Malone's quote that he put up?
Go to the article that he put up.
This is the guy that apparently is who is the new guy from Discovery that he's not the CEO because they brought a different guy that's a CEO.
I think he's the owner of CNN.
If I'm not, the article I sent you, yeah, so go to whatever the article is, CNBC, this is the one.
Okay, make it a little bigger so we can all see it.
John Malone says Warner Media Discovery getting rid of CNN would be the coward's way out.
Okay, keep going up.
Let's read that one legendary quote he has in here, which I love.
Right there in the middle.
Zoom in so everybody can see it.
There's a place for CNN's $43 billion combination of Warner Media and Discovery.
Billionaire Mogul John Malone told CNBC in a recorded interview that aired Thursday, I would like to see CNN evolve back to the kind of journalism that it started with and actually have journalists, which would be unique and refreshing.
He told TVD TV Pioneer, longtime chairman of Liberty Media, which is a major shareholder in Discovery.
I do believe good journalism could have a role in the future.
Portfolio of Discovery and Time Warner going to present.
Go a little lower to read the next part on what he says.
Go a little lower.
A coward's way out would be to sell CNN or spin it off and sell it, right?
And then he's obviously talking about that we should go back to how journalism was.
Well, John, you ain't doing it, just so you know.
You are not doing it.
The American, and by the way, we're not journalists here.
We're podcasters.
This is a YouTube channel.
None of us went to Columbia to be journalists.
Did you go to Columbia to be journalists?
No, sir.
Tyler, did you go to Columbia to be a journalist?
Yes.
You went to Columbia to be a journalist?
Nope.
Say it because some people are watching us taking it seriously.
Did you go to Columbia or no?
No.
None of us went to journalism school.
I'm a military guy.
I got it.
I went into business.
He was a comedian.
He went into insurance.
He got into it.
He's a comedian.
That's what he does.
He was on Deaf Comedy Jam.
Funny guy.
CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, do your job.
We are not journalists.
Do your job.
We want to find out what is going on here.
You're losing credibility by not covering the story that needs to be told.
Rather, you're only covering January 6th because you're afraid of the guy that could potentially go run for office.
And that guy that could potentially go run for office, what's his name?
Donald J. Trump, who is right now the Republican candidate.
Your fear is, God forbid, if that guy gets elected.
If we tell the story, we're going to lose Biden.
Here's the reality of it, CNN.
Whether you tell the story or not, here's what you have to stop worrying about.
Joe Biden and getting re-elected.
So what are you going to do?
Hurt his campaign?
He's not running again.
You can actually do what you did to Cromo and actually do some journalism and tell us what happened with Cuomo.
Good.
You told us.
We wanted to know.
We appreciate you being transparent about that part.
Eventually, it took a while because some people have to oust it with what happened with Chris Cuomo.
Then Zucker gets fired.
And Chris Cuomo gets fired.
Andrew Como gets fired.
And it's all a shit show for CNN that you guys went through.
Hey, if you know Biden's not going to get reelected, why don't you cover this story?
You're already building up a newsome anyways.
Why don't you tell this story?
Why don't you tell the rest of us what's really going on?
There's certain things we have access to.
We don't have 40 people that their job is to go do investigative reporting.
We don't do that yet.
That's not our job.
That's your job.
You do that professionally.
Can you be a professional and fulfill Ted Turner's book and the vision that he had?
Matter of fact, why don't you call CNN's book of the month, first book you guys all read, is Ted Turner's book.
Can you put up Ted Turner's book on what it was?
They call me Ted or something like that.
If you work at CNN, whether you support the organization or not, why don't you go read this book?
Go listen to the audio book and see how he finishes the book at the end.
Every employee at CNN needs to read this book that came out 13 years ago.
Everyone.
I'd love to interview him.
Every time we ask him, unfortunately, he's not doing too well.
We do anything to be able to interview him right now.
We would do anything to be able to talk to him because he was the visionary that started this.
He's the guy that did what?
TNT was a TNT, TBS, Atlanta Falcons, Atlanta Hawks, Atlanta, all this stuff.
Everybody in the nation became Dominic Wilkins fans because of Ted Turner.
Everybody was following the, oh, with, you know, Delaney Justice, with Terry Pendleton, with, you know, Kenny Lofton, with, you know, the pitchers Millwood, Glad Van, really good.
We all became Braves fans because of this guy.
Tell us the truth.
What is going on here?
Stop playing damn politics.
Do your job.
We're all relying on you to do your job.
This applies to everybody.
And the only reason I'm specifically singling out CNN is because John Malone had the audacity to come out and say something like he's just said right now, saying, hey, we got to go back to journalism.
Great.
We're going to hold you to it.
We'd like to see what's going on.
So how many of these guys have reached out?
How many times has CNN reached out?
How many times has Don Lemon reached out?
How many times has MSNBC reached out?
How many times has CBS reached out?
How many times has ABC reached out for anything?
How many times have you seen an email saying we would like to come have you on the show?
Well, let me say on October 14th, when I was outed, so the New York Post, in an accident, when they had a copy of Hunter's signed authorization, they forgot to blur out the Mac shop name.
So people were able to Google the Mac shop, figure out who I was, and the attacks started instantly.
And so did the media attacks.
I had five reporters work their way through a customer that was trying to leave the shop because I had the doors locked for COVID restrictions and just keep people out.
And so they burst in, and then I didn't know I was being recorded.
And they kind of cornered me and secretly recorded me.
And then that got out.
And then I realized, oh my God, I'm not built for this at all.
And that was my first experience with the press.
And they tore me to pieces.
I talked to Bob Costello that evening.
He gave me some pointers.
And the next day, I felt a little bit more confident.
And when I came back from lunch break, so this was October 15th, I had CNN, Washington Post, and New York Times in front of my shop.
And I was like, all right, I'm ready for this.
I'm going to just do what Bob told me to do.
Just tell them what I told the FBI because I can't get in any trouble if my story, which is the truth, is the same story that I told the FBI, you know, a year, almost a year at this time prior.
And so I did.
I told them everything.
And they didn't publish a word of it.
It's like they were never there.
And then the Washington Post reached out, and I wanted to bring this up.
The CNN article from three months ago, what else happened three months ago?
The Washington Post admitted that the laptop was real.
And the New York Times admitted that the laptop was real.
So CNN came out with that little tiny, they snuck it in.
I watched it happen.
It was like late at night.
They just put out this little article acknowledging that the laptop was real.
And that was just to cover their bum.
This doesn't work.
This business model doesn't work.
So there's two stories here.
We're going to go back to some of the things to get a little bit deeper.
But this business model doesn't work.
People are not dumb.
You're not going to win like the CNN, just so you know.
People know you're playing games and they don't like it.
Tell the story.
Tell us what happened.
Tell us really what's going on over here.
And then let us make a decision if it's real or not.
And then we'll go from there.
But the business model they're taking is not going to be an effective business model long term.
If you sell insurance, you sell insurance.
You can't say, well, we're only going to sell insurance to such and such people.
If you do real estate, you have to do real estate.
If you don't real estate, the market's not going to favor you.
If you do media journalism, you call yourself a journalist, well, then go do some investigative journalism and do some digging.
We're podcasters.
We're just regular guys that want to see what's going on in the world because we're concerned about the future.
Anyways, for me, it's more about the accountability than anything else.
So since then, that this has taken place, has your business been affected?
Are people still coming to your business?
Have you shut down the business?
Are you still living in Delaware?
Have you moved to Alaska?
How's personal life going?
So initially, the media did a great job of blocking the story.
So I had customers coming in, but the people that had heard, so customers would come in and they'd say, why is there dog shit in front of your shop?
Or why is there a tomato smashed on the sidewalk?
Or what's that sign mean?
And I just was kind of lucky at that point because I knew the bulk of my customers were liberal, like most of the city, and that if they didn't know what I had done, then I was okay.
But unfortunately, the word started getting out.
Plus, the amount of people that were coming into the shop without computers were starting to make me nervous because to the point where I had to fill out a domestic terroristic threat report with Wilmington Police Department.
I do want to say that I'm grateful for the Wilmington PD.
They put somebody in front of my shop every time I was there for like about the three weeks that I remained open until I had to close because I just, it was getting too dangerous.
You know, when you start to get death threats and the area codes are LA or San Diego or Seattle, you don't care.
It's a free country.
People can rage and lash out, whatever.
Cats out of the bag.
I mean, be a punching bag for these people.
It gets it off their chest, whatever.
But when the area code started to be in 856 and 484, that's across the river in Jersey.
That's 15 minutes down the 202 into Pennsylvania.
That's when it started to get a little scary.
And then there were some interactions with some people that were not coming to my shop for service.
They were coming to do me harm.
So it was time for me to close up the shop.
I closed the shop up November 2nd.
I didn't go home.
I was kind of told by an individual that was helping me that worked with my father.
My father worked briefly at the CIA.
And he said that the threat level was getting really high.
And regardless of the direction that the election was going to take, though he was confident that the election was in the hands of Biden already, that I needed to get out of town because there's a probability that my name's next to a checkbox that's waiting to be checked off.
And I just, it's not safe.
So I left.
I went into hiding, bounced around mostly in Colorado.
When things started to settle down, I actually went to woodworking school at a local community college.
Everybody out there is wearing masks, so I figured nobody would know who I was.
And probably nobody would.
I tried to start a Mac business, but within the first hour that I put up a Facebook page, somebody was like, don't trust this guy.
He'll steal your data.
So, you know, that didn't last.
You went to the school.
Did you wear the hat or no?
No.
I have another hat.
You can't wear that because that's iconic if you wear that.
They're going to know who you are.
You know, when the hate mail started coming in, there was the common theme, you know, Putin thanks you for your service and Russia loves you or I hope your business fails, but you'll, Donnie will pay for your, you know, he'll pardon you or whatever.
But the common thread started that your hat is ugly or your hat is stupid.
So I figured.
They should wear UC Berkeley hat with a mask.
Nobody would bother.
But I figure if they care more about the hat than they do about the truth, then I don't need to engage with them.
That's a pointless conversation anyway.
And then I started to realize that they really hate this hat and that their tears give me fuel.
So, you know, there's what's a lot of what's kept me going, like to want to continue to fight.
Because when you get, for me, I feel boxed in a corner.
And any animal that's in the corner is going to lash out.
So I don't understand why they keep coming after me.
They tried to withhold my unemployment.
The IRS dinged me for $57 from like seven years ago, six years ago.
It's like they're doing these little things here and there to mess with me.
And it's like, all this is going to do is make me want to fight harder.
And now that I have really nothing left to lose, then why not see it to the end?
So I'm going to try to do everything I can to hold these guys accountable.
Not just the people, not just the mainstream and social media.
I tried to go after Twitter and everything was looking really good for a while.
And then they switched judges on me with an Obama-appointed judge because to prove that I wasn't a hacker, we were going to have to have Hunter come in and explain that that was his signature, that was him.
So we were going to have Hunter testify.
And then I guess the White House didn't like that.
So they switched judges on me and the judge threw the case out, awarded Twitter this Florida slap statue.
So then I was in the hole with Twitter for $175,000.
So whatever Elon's doing right now, if he's going to make that thing crash and burn, God bless him.
It's the closest I've seen to justice, whatever he's doing to Twitter, is the closest I've seen to justice since all of you.
You've got some beef with Twitter.
I'm not speculating.
You've come out and said that your biggest beef might be with Twitter.
I think you were trying to sue some of these media outlets, but Twitter's at the top of your list.
Well, Twitter, I tried to sue because they labeled me a hacker.
They said that their reasoning for blocking the story from every form of communication was that it was based on hacked material.
I'm not a hacker.
So I went.
Because Hunter gave you the laptop.
He gave me permission.
My job was to recover.
I wasn't there to fix a laptop.
It was to recover the data.
And then after 90 days, legally it became yours because he signed a bill or an invoice saying, hey, after 90 days, if you don't pay, this is now my property.
And there's no expectation of privacy when it comes to things you abandon.
So I never felt like I ever did anything wrong.
So to get labeled a hacker, because people are like, you're going to rot in prison for hacking.
I'm like, I didn't hack anything.
So if I'm ever going to start a business again fixing computers, having people lay, if I don't clear my name in the court of law that I'm not a hacker, I'm never going to have a successful business again.
So that's why I went after Twitter.
Again, and we beat 230.
Twitter put up the 230 protection defense.
2230.
Yeah, and we actually beat them, which I think is a first.
My lawyer, we were high-five, and it was a good time.
Things looked very optimistic.
And then about June, they switched the judges, and then the judge demanded that my lawyer go down to Florida to explain to her why this case shouldn't be thrown out.
So that was not a good sign.
And then it was thrown out.
And then I was, Twitter, I have to pay Twitter's legal fees.
Can I read a quote that you said to the New York Post?
Maybe it opened up a discussion because this has to do with Section 230, media.
I believe you called media these days, or at least big tech, state-run media.
So I guess this is according to the post.
After fighting to reveal the truth, all I want is for the rest of the country to know that there was a collective and orchestrated effort by social and mainstream media to block a real story with real consequences for the nation.
Is that how you still feel things?
Absolutely.
That's why I'm suing right now with the help of the America Project.
To be honest, I thought I had to move back to Delaware because I thought I would have to file for bankruptcy and I had to be in my house or I'd lose my house.
So I had to leave where I was safe and go back to now 10 miles from Joe Biden's house.
And because I don't want to lose my house.
So you don't, oh, you feel safer being closer to Joe Biden's house?
No, well, I feel safe in my house now because it's my home.
I don't know if Joe feels safe or on Joe.
And where does the Twitter lawsuit stand right now with you?
Oh, no, they threw it out with prejudice.
And then I owe Twitter $175,000.
And do you plan on paying that?
Well, it's mostly taken care of.
Gotcha.
I mean, you're the second most famous person that Twitter is currently suing.
Well, I'm pretty sure they, well, I don't think I'd want to be famous for that.
But no, Twitter was a realization.
I never thought I would have my opportunity to hold these people accountable in the court of law.
So I wrote a book about, because I thought maybe court of public opinion, if I tell my story and I put it in a book, then the mainstream media and social media can't block it.
It'll be something that's tactile and in people's hands.
So I didn't think I'd have an opportunity again to try to hold these people accountable.
When you look at the collusion, so Zuckerberg, on I think October 25th, 2020, admitted before Congress that the FBI approached Facebook, Twitter, and Google to warn them of a massive document dump of disinformation from a foreign power.
He said that.
And if it was at the end of the summer, I mailed overnight a copy of the drive to Bob Costello's office on August 28th.
So if the following week the FBI is warning social media outlets to be on the lookout for a document dump, it begs the question, who has the FISA court for that?
Was I being monitored or was the lawyer for the president of the United States being monitored?
So I want to figure out who gave the marching orders.
Who told everybody that this is Russian collusion?
Sure, I want to clear my name.
Obviously, I don't want the Mac Isaac name, which is a pretty good name as far as the military and love of country.
I don't need to have Trader attached to that moving forward.
And I'm not going to let them take the narrative that they want to push and allow that to end up in the history books.
So there's, yeah, that's my personal fight.
But the bigger picture is there was a colluded effort.
There was collusion between mainstream and social media and federal agencies.
At least we know of the DOJ and the FBI's involvement to keep this quiet.
And we live in a country that we're afraid of.
We're leaning towards socialism.
We're like halfway there with our state-run media.
It's not fair and it's not right.
And it shouldn't happen to the country.
And it's unfortunate that it happened to me.
But the biggest thing is, is we should, with 86% of Americans getting their news through digital devices, to have a lens or a filter over that that's presented to us that's controlled by a political party, that's not right.
John Paul, how many people have you from former FBI agents who maybe are conservative have you spoken to?
How many of them have you spoken to or they've reached out?
I have talked to just in passing some retired.
Why not, though?
Why not?
I think they think I pulled a fast front on them when I made a copy of the drive.
I just thought they knew I had a copy of the drive because my dad tried to give them a copy of the drive back in October of 2019.
So I was in Giuliani's place a week, I don't know what it was, maybe a week or two after they came into his house and took everything that he had of the Joe Biden stuff that he had.
And we did a five-hour interview.
Three and a half hours is on actually mafiastatesofamerica.com.
And I would say half of the interview is about Joe Biden.
And this was, how long ago was this?
Was this like six months ago, 12 months ago?
It came out when?
It came out in November, eight months ago, right?
No, closer to a year, probably.
If you've not seen it, folks, you got to go watch it.
It's on MafiaStatesofamerica.com.
The whole three and a half hour interview with Joe with what do you call it?
Rudy Giuliani's there.
And obviously they went after Rudy to try to get everything away, taken away from him for him to lose credibility.
But I wonder, how come conservative influencers from the FBI side, how come they've not reached out?
How come they've not reached out to support?
Well, I think that, I mean, up until the Washington Post and the New York Times admitted that the laptop was real, I mean, I had a book written.
It was done in September of last year.
Yeah.
And I spent three, four, five months trying to get in contact with publishers, anybody who would be interested in this story, and I got zero response from anybody.
So it felt like my uncle and my father going to Congress all over again.
Just nobody wants to touch this thing with a 10-foot pole.
I believe.
Because I think they have been.
So then who is Liberatio Protocol?
Who are they?
Who's that publisher?
Or is it a conservative publisher?
That's the offshoot from Post Hill.
Post Hill is my publisher.
Anthony Zakar.
Really?
Okay, interesting.
So he's got some brass, by the way.
Yeah, he seems pretty.
Yeah, him and I had a nice call three weeks ago.
I like him a lot.
We had like a very friendly call, and who's a 15 years assignment schuster?
So if there's a guy that's got the audacity to pick it up, it's that.
But here's what I will tell you.
Hey, Republicans and whoever you are on that side that you are like complaining about this deal, that you have served in the FBI or CIA or military or your general, all that stuff.
Why are you not investigating and finding out for yourself as well?
Why aren't you doing something about it?
A retweet or a tweet is not enough.
We don't do this for a living.
We're a podcaster.
We just sit down and we have these conversations.
Why aren't some of you guys that are connected to the FBI or former FBIs?
Why aren't you guys reaching out?
Why aren't you having those kinds of meetings?
It surprises me that that doesn't happen.
It surprised me that some of them from their own camp are not reaching out to have these conversations with you.
What are they afraid of?
What happened?
Is it a backbone issue?
Oh my God, if I talk to him, God forbid something's going to happen to my career.
Yeah, no, this, look, if your concern is truly socialism and everybody is waiting for the next guy to pick up the fight, then you're all pansies.
If your fear is really socialism and you claim it is socialism, I'm not talking about you.
I'm talking about people who claim they're a fear of socialism.
Why don't you do something about it?
Why don't you expose all the other stuff?
Because flip this real quick and flip it real quick.
Do you remember when Obama's daughter got caught smoking weed at 13 years old?
Do you remember what Obama said?
What?
Obama said, you know, the struggles of being a teenager, I remember I went through it myself as well.
You know, as a family, we love her, and we're going to get through this.
And Papa Papa Paul, you know what we said as an audience?
What do we say?
Okay.
Okay, cool.
You know what?
Cool.
Cool.
Moved on.
When Bill Clinton, I did not have relations with that woman.
Miss Lewinsky.
I've been quoting Chappelle Region.
Right.
Anyway, so, and then what happened?
You're like, dude, no, it's fine.
We don't say our sons should be like you when they grow up, although he inspired a lot of people.
Well, half the country didn't care.
The other half really, really cared about the BJ.
I don't care about McDougal.
I don't care about Stormy.
I don't care about any of that stuff.
Listen, if you, and by the way, the whole role model situation, yeah, there's an element of a president being a role model.
I totally agree.
There's an element of the governor's being a role model.
I get that.
But I want to make sure you got good policies to get good results.
This is why when people say, how can you with Trump?
I like his policies.
That's all it is.
I like his policies.
His policies were very effective for business.
It was a lot more peaceful until COVID took place.
So even if you go back to Reagan, imagine you have a son and you name your son after you, okay?
And you name him Ronald Reagan.
And guess what?
The kid you named after you hates your policies.
Do you know that story?
Do you know Ronald Reagan?
Ronald Reagan Jr. completely disagrees with his father.
You know, what do media do?
He's an atheist now, I believe.
But guess what?
Guess what American people said?
Look, everybody has issues with their kids.
Sometimes you have it.
Sometimes some kids want to do this.
Hey, no problem.
We understand it.
Why aren't you wanting to cover this story here?
But can I pose maybe an opposing view?
There is a difference between the actual man, the president, and what they do.
Like you brought up McDougal, Trump, Stormy Daniels, Trump, Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, right?
Reagan, he's allegedly had affairs on Nancy versus the kids.
Like you brought up one of the Obama daughters smoking weed or even Hunter smoking crack or even stuff that Eric Trump allegedly did, what have you.
There is a difference between the president, what they do, and their kids.
Can't control what the kids do.
I don't condone some of the stuff that Hunter's done for sure.
It's not a good look for the country.
But it's not like it's the president doing those things.
Well, if I was a guy who would make short clips, I would take what you just said and I would take what you said a week before about guns, that if something kid does, the parents should be held accountable, and that contradicts itself.
Well, if you murder somebody.
What are you talking about?
You're doing stuff to 12-year-old girls.
I mean, these are minors.
Some people would say this is worse than murder.
I mean, 12-year-old girls.
You haven't seen what 4chan brought up yesterday with links on this guy.
I didn't follow 4chan, no.
I don't either.
I don't even know who 4chan was until yesterday, but 4chan, they came out and they said they found links of this guy visiting, watching porn with 12-year-old girls.
Okay, so anyways, that concerns me.
No doubt Hunter Biden's a freaking creep.
Yeah, but can you imagine that?
But to your argument, to your point that you made just a week ago, it is your, I didn't say my point.
This is your point.
To your point, you said, if the son does it, parents need to be held around accounting.
I still stand by that comment.
If your kid is going to go out there and we're talking about the latest thing in where was that?
There's so many pursuits.
There's so many goddamn massive shootings these days that I can't even keep up.
But if you're going to go ahead and take seven people's lives, yeah, we're going to hold your family accountable.
So I'm sticking with that question.
That's different from what the president is doing.
Don't tell that story.
No, no.
You don't get - look, we all contradict that.
That's murder.
That's something that you're taking people's lives.
Okay, so let me ask you a question.
Whether your kid does drugs or not.
That's a different story.
I didn't say drugs.
I didn't say drugs.
Murder is murder.
Totally get it.
What about a 50-year-old man having sex with a minor?
Should go to jail.
That's it.
I don't know.
What do you mean?
Should there be an accountability for the father?
No.
But there should be accountability for the person that killed.
Like the age.
Yes.
But mass murder has different.
Not mass murder.
Have a murder period.
How about murder period?
No.
I'm talking about mass murder of innocent people.
We're conflating two different things.
I see what you're saying here.
You do have a point.
You're basically saying, Adam, you're kind of contradicting yourself right now.
What I'm saying is all about.
Because accountability should be held to the parents.
All I'm saying is.
I'm talking about accountability for mass murder.
We're talking about gun violence.
So it's kind of like son, please don't kill more than one person because if you kill two, I'm also going to jail.
Just kill one.
Something needs to be done.
I get that.
All I'm saying is like, look, sometimes I'll give ideas, okay?
And I'll go in a room and I'll say, I want you to be devil's advocate.
Argue my arguments.
Just debate me, right?
Because I want to know if I have any leaks in my argument.
Okay, you said that last week.
People thought about it.
It created a bunch of attention.
I was like, oh, you know what?
Parents should be held accountable if that's the case.
Okay.
That comes a week later.
If this is true, should he be held accountable? for what his son did?
He's not a child.
He's not a child.
Who's not a child?
Hunter's not a child.
He's not a child.
Yeah, he's not living at home.
But these people are also not children that he was talking about last week that are doing a mass shooting.
They're also not 13, 14 years old.
They're also grown men and men that are doing this.
Arguably grown.
17, 18, 19, 20 years.
I think the life experience that takes place in the 30 years age difference between the recent shooter and Hunter, I agree.
I think that there's certain accountability, especially if the raising of that child is so close to that period of time.
I think Hunter's been Joe's bagman for the past 25 years.
So I don't think there's been any upbringing or raising coming from Joe.
I think it's a power dynamic.
Joe's the boss and Hunter's the worker.
I think you guys completely missed my point.
I'm on the same page with that.
His point last week was parents should be held accountable for what the kid does with mass shooting.
That's his point last week.
That's what I'm saying.
For me, what Hunter did is what Hunter did.
I just said what Obama's kids do is what Obama's kids do.
Ron O'Reagan, you do what you got to do.
You know, the minor stuff, that's very sensitive to parents and all that stuff that you go through.
But to him, if he did do what he did, and all these things that are coming up with his involvement with politics, with Zelensky, with Ukraine, why you're so protective.
It's a little bit weird when you're very, very protective of somebody all of a sudden.
You ever had a situation where something happened and one of the guys is all of a sudden overly protective of a girl?
You're like, hey, bro, that's a little.
Dude, you've never talked like that before.
How did you all of a sudden become so protective of Ukraine?
Like, do you have some lineage?
Did you do ancestry.com and they said you're 62% Ukrainian?
And you're like, what happened there that you're so that's the part where there's a little bit of speculation.
And I would like the professional investigative journalist to go out there and do some investigative journalism.
I just don't think anything is going to happen.
And I was thinking about this if Trump wins this next presidency.
Even if they do an investigation, Joel, he won't be the president anymore.
These people just, nothing happens.
Nothing ever happens to these people.
We have the proof.
You know it.
He's seen a lot.
We're seeing, like, he's smoking crack every day.
There's another video where he's weighing like 20 grams of crack cocaine with the girl.
And nothing's going to happen.
Let's be frank about this.
This isn't just any father-son duo, right?
So Hunter Biden is smoking a lot of crack, right?
And he just weighed out, as Vinny said, 20 grams of crack.
Joe Biden wrote the original legislation with mandatory sentencing laws for crack cocaine, saying if you had five grams, you got five years, mandatory, no probation, no nothing.
You're off at him.
Okay.
Secondly, Hunter Biden has lied on a federal gun form, right?
He purchased a weapon and lied on the gun form and then threw the weapon in the dumpster.
It's like, I do think there is a point to where Joe Biden has to be held accountable for some of this.
I don't disagree with that part.
I agree with that part.
There needs to be accountability here.
But regardless, there needs to be investigative journalism.
No, absolutely.
Let me give you my highlight of Jimmy Kimmel.
I'm not a Kimmel fan.
I don't watch Kimmel.
His humor is not my kind of humor.
I like Fallon more.
I like Carson.
I like Leno.
I was more Leno, less Letterman.
Just kind of like comedy is taste, right?
You probably like Letterman more than you like Leno.
I like Leno.
You know, everybody's taste is different.
But you know what I like about what Kimmel did?
It was a week, maybe two weeks.
You know what Kimmel had within a two-week span?
He had Hunter Biden come up and he did the new book with Craig, you know, what he was addicted to, how tough it was, and all this stuff.
He met the scroll at whatever it was at a rehab place.
I was like, you know what?
I appreciate that.
I was like, that's all you have to do.
Hey, here's what I'm going through.
And they did it.
And then Kimmel, the next week, had the pillow guy on and had a conversation on.
Guess what?
I appreciate that.
I think Kimmel needs to invite him.
Hey, Kimmel.
He can't.
He had a on one of his shows, he threw up a picture, a not very flattering picture of me.
And he said, this guy looks like he's a tour guide for Loch Ness.
And I was kind of flattered for that.
By the way, that's totally fine.
Comedians make fun of a lot of people and then they invite him back into the show.
It's his job.
Somebody wrote that script and he read it off the teleprompter.
But Kimmel does treat certain guests a certain way.
Like he was a little softer with Hunter Biden.
There's no question.
He has the pillow guy on mocks him to his face.
And I'm not the pillow guy fan whatsoever.
But that guy does kind of take it like he laughs at all.
Can I tell you something?
As much as I can't stand Kimmel, as much as I can't stand Kimmel, that's progress.
I agree.
That's progress to me.
Of course, he's favoring one side and not the other side.
I want to sit here and agree.
I cannot believe I'm defending Kimmel and you're like defending.
I'm like, no, Pat.
We're not playing this game.
I'm not from Jimmy Kimmel.
Cut this short clip up.
Pat's defending Jimmy Kimmel.
Oh, my gosh.
But all I'm saying is, to me, that's progress.
That is progress.
Let the audience sit there and say, I agree, I disagree.
I do all the stuff.
All you got to do these days is just follow what Bill Maher's doing.
Because when Trump's in the presidency, it's just a shit show on Trump, especially on the left.
Trump, He sucks.
He's an egomaniac.
He's a narcissist.
Collusion, collusion, collusion.
Now that Biden's in the presidency and country's kind of going to shit, Hunter Biden smoking crack.
John Paul, Mack Isaacs over here hanging out with laptops out of nowhere.
All of a sudden, people who lean left have to start saying, you know what, this shit ain't making so much sense and I got to find some common sense.
You know what?
You know what's crazy what you just said that?
Here's what I would do if I was John Malone.
I would contact Bill Maher's agent and I would say three-year contract for $50 million a year, $150 million contract for three years.
I would go after Bill Maher and bring him to CNN at fire.
Everybody you got that takes sides, who doesn't have the audacity to you know.
Respect Bill, like Jake Tapper, I think, is.
You know there's a few people that are you gotta keep Stage.
You gotta keep Brian Stelter, though he's the backbone.
Brian Stelter's a war there's.
There's a few people you can't even mention their names because they're in goat status.
Brian's in the goat status.
I mean Brian's like the deal with untouchable.
Why are you saying that they should bring in Bill Maher?
Because if John Malone says it's coward to to do what he's doing and he wants to go back to investigative journalism hey, go back Bill Maher, because Bill Maher is doing more investigative journalism as a comedian than any of your guys in your channel combined.
So go offer that man, Bill Maher, a three or 150 million dollar contract.
By the way, I I don't know if he's doing investigating bullshit.
I'll take a 2% commission on that before coming up with that.
I don't know if Bill Maher's doing investigative journalism per se.
I think he's just calling short.
Wait, what CNN is doing?
Where it needs to be called out.
By the way, do you think Bill Maher, for the right price, would ever go to CNN?
No, I don't think he would.
You know why?
Let me tell you why.
There are certain people who would, for any price, go anywhere.
There are certain people that when you've been around for a while and you find an environment that supports you, leave you alone.
The team works.
Everything's mentioned.
All that stuff is good.
They're wise enough to know you don't screw up something like this.
They're willing to work with me.
I bet you right now, if CNN announced, we're giving a, if they said three years, $200 million, I'm telling you, Bill Maher still would turn it down.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I don't think he's going to take the money.
He had a quote basically saying these days, he gets offered all sorts of money to go play gigs.
He gave an example.
He was offered a million dollars to fly to Dubai to do a show, one show.
He goes, I'm good.
At this point in my life, I'm not doing this for the money.
I enjoy my time and doing what I want to do.
Has he had you on?
Not worth it.
Hey, Bill, if you're watching this, I try to make you 200 million bucks.
And he said, no, that's your problem, not mine.
Bill, why don't you get a hold of him?
Send him a message on Snapchat or, you know, I don't know, on Instagram, or I'm sure you're pretty easy to get a hold of with an email.
I don't do any of that Insta stuff.
Yeah, well, I hate the internet.
I mean, I only really got on Facebook when I opened my business in 2010.
Because I value this kind of social interaction.
If you get upset because you're not my friend, it's probably because I haven't broken bread with you.
Well, then I would say probably take a letterhead, just like a regular piece of paper, a padfold, you know, whatever you want to call it, and just handwrite a letter saying, I would like to invite you on the show.
Okay.
And then have him on the show and talk shit.
Do what you do best.
And let go.
You're a little bit mainstream to get your main, main mainstream.
They're following your stuff.
Why don't you invite them on board?
You've had other people on.
The only thing for me is just eyeballs.
The more people interviewing him, telling the stories, the more people say, really, let me look into it.
That's all it is.
Every picture I see of Hunter right here, he just loves water and smoking crack.
He probably dropped the computer inside this and brought it to you.
What is that?
By the way, that clip is what?
Where is that at?
This is from Hunter.
This is Hunter on his.
He's weighing crack with the girl.
Seriously?
Yeah, watch.
Look at that.
20 grams of crack cocaine.
So I don't know if that's super real.
Really?
The first part.
Could be, not the second part.
So like, if you've noticed over the past couple of weeks, there's been a new trove of data that's been discovered.
Yeah.
It's because there was, of the 220 gigs that I recovered, there was a 30-gig iPhone backup that was encrypted.
And I believe somebody at the Washington Examiner cracked that encryption.
So that's where the isolation tank, smoking crack, drinking beer video came from.
A bunch of other interesting things are on that video, on that, that encrypted backup.
Unfortunately, whenever something comes out, then somebody else tries to go and say, oh, this came off of this and this came off of that.
So I would question that because I haven't gone through the entire encrypted backup, but I have not seen.
By the way, I respect that about you.
I mean, you could sit here and completely just throw Hunter under the bus, but you're basically saying, yeah, I don't even know if that's real or not.
Yeah, I would question that.
Because a lot of people are basically questioning your credibility, right?
I mean, they're calling you a Russian asset.
They're saying legally blind.
You can't see that well.
You wear the hat to own the liberals, but right?
Fairly stated.
I know it's a good hat.
I love that.
Great hat.
First off, for the record, Adam loves your hat.
I know.
I'm very glad you wore that.
If you didn't wear the hat, I probably wouldn't do the show today.
So I respect you for bringing that.
But a lot of people have questioned your credibility, but you've been nothing but forthright and honest.
The truth doesn't pick sides.
Like when I started going and attacking the individual that was trying to put out the 450 gigs of fake data and just trying not to attack him, it was perceived as an attack, but basically put the facts out there.
Here's the serial number of the laptop.
Anybody can look that number up through Apple and see that it only had a 250 gig drive.
I recovered 220 gigs of user data.
So even it was a full drive.
There's no way you can get forward.
So I'm just trying to let people aware that there's people out there that are trying to spew disinformation or muddy the waters.
I started getting attacked by the saying, I just donated to your Give Cingo like a month ago, and now you're turning on us.
Why are you protecting the Bidens?
Why are you doing this?
And I started catching flack from people on the right.
And I'm sorry, the truth doesn't pick sides.
I love it.
It really doesn't.
Would you say that this is the best thing that's ever happened to you or the worst thing that's ever happened to you, this whole fiasco?
Yeah, this is not.
I did not sign up for this life.
I don't want it, and I'm not happy, but this is what I have to do because this is bigger than me.
You're born on May 2nd?
May 3rd.
May 3rd.
I was born on May 1st.
You're May 1st?
Yeah.
So you're May 1st.
And Mario's May 2nd.
He's May 3rd.
You guys should all go hang out on your birthday.
Go on vacation.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
And thank you for your father and your grandfather.
Oh, my grandfather started off Army Air Corps in World War II.
He was a Canadian pilot that kind of got drafted into the Army Air Corps.
And then my father joined the Air Force.
And I have to.
It's the family profession.
If I was like, I never served.
I'm visually impaired.
They wouldn't take me.
I can apparently see well enough to fly planes and kill people.
So, you know, which is probably a good thing if you can't see good.
But thank you for acknowledging the hat.
It is a military hat, but I have never served.
I wanted to get that clear because I honor those that have served, but I respect.
Respect.
So, how about we transition into a completely different feud that's going on?
We mentioned him earlier.
Twitter vows legal fight after Musk pulls out of the $44 billion deal.
This is a Reuters story.
Elon Musk said on Friday he was terminating the $44 billion deal to buy Twitter because the social media company had breached multiple provisions of the merger agreement.
Twitter chairman Brett Taylor said on a microblogging platform that the board planned to pursue legal action to enforce a merger agreement.
Musk's lawyer said Twitter had failed or refused to respond to multiple requests for information on fake or spam accounts on the platform, which is fundamental to the company's business performance.
There's plenty of precedents for deal renegotiation.
In one stance, French retailer Louis Vuitton threatened to walk away from a deal with Tiffany and company.
The U.S. jewelry retailer agreed to lower the acquisition price by $425 million to $15.8 billion.
So that's kind of what happened there.
Now, you're seeing what's been the back and forth with a lot of different commentary.
Trump was at a rally yesterday speaking.
I'm sure you guys heard what Trump said.
I don't know if you did hear what Trump said, but yesterday Trump is giving a speech.
And, you know, he says, Elon Elon Elon, he's not going to buy Twitter, Trump said after encouraging those in the attendance to use a competing social media platform, Truth Social.
And where did you hear that before?
From me.
He's got himself a mess.
I've looked at his contract.
You know, Elon says he's never voted Republican, but I didn't know that because he told me that he voted for me.
So he's another bullshit artist.
Anyway, so the moment Elon says this, Trump has to jump in and make a comment.
So what are your thoughts about what's going on with this here, Adam?
Well, you're talking about the Twitter or the Trump terrorist?
Both.
Give me both.
Well, I would hope there's a couple different things going on.
Number one, I would love to see Elon buy Twitter.
I think Twitter's an absolute shit show.
The whole thing that's happening with the bots, you have people speculating that 5% of the user base is bots, and then you have Donald Trump Jr. speculating that 50% of the user base is bots.
As far as the Trump situation, of course he needs to weigh in and poke fun at Elon.
If I'm Trump, I'd like to have Elon as an advocate, an ally, not an enemy.
That's not someone that I want to be feuding with.
Keep in mind, you know, as far as being a bullshit artist, that's like the pot calling the kettle black.
By the way, there's a part of Trump that's in, you know, there's an ego-driven thing.
So, you know, if I'm Trump, number one, I want to have Elon on my side.
He admitted that he would vote Republican this time.
Straight up.
Whether that's DeSantis or Trump remains to be seen.
But that's not the type of person you want to be fighting with.
Furthermore, obviously Trump's always got an angle because what's his social media network?
True, truth.
Truth social.
Aren't they trying to replace Twitter?
So, of course, there's going to be some feuding with Elon.
As a businessman, what do you think is going on with him, with the deal pulling?
Is he playing a game?
No, no.
Listen, like you made an offer on a house and you offered a million bucks.
During the 60 days closing period, all of a sudden, I don't know, a war happens.
COVID happens.
You know, a massive disruption happens to the market and rates skyrocket whatever percent.
Real estate valuation drops 20%.
So that million-dollar house you're buying all of a sudden is worth $800,000.
You go back to the buyer and say, look, I'm not buying this for a million dollars.
You're figuring out a way to get out of the deal.
That's what he's trying to do.
Either I'll buy it for a lot less after doing the inspection or I'm not going to buy it and I'm going to lose whatever money that I'm putting.
Sometimes when you're buying a house and you put, like this one building I bought, not this one, the other building that I bought, the federal building, there was already a deal in place.
I went in with a cash offer and I said, look, I'll buy this cash.
He said, show us, you know, if you're really serious about this.
I said, what do you want me to do?
He said, put a few hundred thousand dollars in an account that if we don't close the deal, you lose that money.
Now that's a decision.
So you see what happened right there?
So what I say, okay, no problem.
So I put a few hundred thousand dollars in an escrow account, sign an agreement that if I don't close it, it's not mine.
But I bought it cash and I bought it, discounted.
Week later, that I get an offer for $6 million on that building.
But I bought it for cash, right?
So in this case, if he walks away, he pays that $1 billion, but these guys now want to sue him.
And the CEO, I don't know if you guys saw what the CEO of Twitter said.
The CEO of Twitter said, we're going to war.
Can you pull this one up?
We're going to war with Elon.
And, you know, CEO of Twitter, type in CEO of Twitter, war Musk.
And you'll see an article that's going to pop up.
There you go.
Twitter CEO, Parag Agarwal, willing to go to war to make Elon Musk's deal happen.
So go a little lower, go a little lower, go a little lower.
CEO de Barnes willing to go to war to make Elon Musk $44 billion acquisition.
Social media giant Emmett reports that the deal could be in jeopardy over the sites handling of spam and bots.
After the market closed, Musk disclosed his SEC filing.
He was terminating the deal.
Paragraph, who assumed the chief executive job last fall after the company's co-founder Jack Dorsey stepped down from the role, is reportedly starting to come out fighting after the Musk repeatedly criticized.
Okay.
So he has to do that because if he doesn't show that, the investors, Agarwal, would be due to receive a payout of $42 million under the current terms of the buyout, as would a handful of Twitter executives.
Agarwal payout will be triggered by a so-called change in control clause in their contract, which kicks in after kicks in either of them is terminated within 12 months of new ownership, assuming to help him or the company.
So he has to do that because he has to be strong in front of his shareholders and in front of his board.
He has to show that fight.
Now, is he going to win?
I don't know.
There's a lot of people that are hoping that he can force him to buy Twitter.
There's a lot of people that are hoping he ends up buying Twitter.
By the way, there's a guy named Professor Galloway, Scott Galloway.
I don't know if you guys follow this guy or not.
Great content.
He was supposed to have a show with CNN Plus until CNN Plus didn't make it with the $300 million.
CNN.
They didn't make it?
CNN what?
CNN negative.
CNN negative.
That's a good point.
Watson, actually not a bad name for a show.
There we go.
So Scott's been playing a lot of games with Elon, just kind of driving him, you know, saying you were never going to buy it.
You know, you were just kind of using hardcore.
He's trolling him eventually to the point where Elon just blocked him.
And then he came and said, here's somebody that's for freedom of speech.
Why are you blocking me?
Why are you worried about what I have to say?
So there's a lot of commentary that's going on there with this.
I just think Elon made an offer that was $42, $44 billion, and Twitter's now probably worth 20% to 30% less.
And he's sitting there saying, look, I lost $60 billion on my net worth.
That was worth $300 billion.
So if I would have bought it at $300 billion network, I've lost 20%.
I'd like to buy this $40, whatever, $2 billion company for 20% less, which is what?
$34 billion.
If you want to do that deal, I mean, I think that's kind of what's going on, but Twitter wants that additional $8 billion.
I may be wrong.
Well, now Twitter's threatening to sue for a billion bucks.
No, no, you're not.
The billion they're going to get no matter what, because that's the billion.
Like when I said I made that offer on that building, if I close that building or not, they're getting that cash in the escrow.
So you're saying that he has to pay that?
That billion is an escrow.
That billion, I assume that billion is going to go to Twitter no matter what.
But Twitter is sitting there saying, no, no, we lost more than a billion dollars.
So PPD, here's the question.
We just got through with the whole Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, you know, trial of the decade, whatever.
What are the chances this goes to court?
And how much bigger would this be, you know, media-wise than the Johnny Depp Amber Heard?
Which one?
Which one?
Twitter versus Elon Musk.
It's not going to be 1-100 of what the Amber Heard situation is.
Oh, you think Johnny Depp and Amber Heard is going to be bigger than Elon versus Twitter?
Dude, look at your podcast when you do your podcast and there's girl drama, guy drama, whatever.
Girl drama is what people want.
Are you serious?
Amber Heard is the goat of drama.
I don't even know if you're going to have to even go to court, right?
By the way, I find it very ironic that Amber Heard, who she was with before Johnny Depp, was freaking Elon Musk.
Not before Johnny Depp.
While she was with Johnny Depp, her and Elon dated for a few.
It wasn't before.
What?
I thought it was before.
No, no, because her and Johnny have been around for a while.
Her and Elon Musk had a fling, I think, like last year, a couple years ago.
So you don't think that if Elon Musk went to trial versus Twitter, it would be mainstream news galore?
Zero.
It would not be 1-100 of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.
Really?
Are you serious about this question?
Elon Musk is arguably the most famous person in the world.
Do you think he'd have people have the file?
I don't think he'd have to do it.
But it'd be a litigation trial.
It would be exciting.
It'd be like a litigation trial.
It wouldn't be fun or exciting or dramatic.
Unless he shows up in court and shits.
It's not going to be a title.
Now, if January 6th, Trump goes to trial, Amber Heard came over.
You kind of talk about 8 million people live watching that one.
That's a different story.
But this one, I don't think so.
Look, there's a big camp that's hoping this guy ends up buying Twitter.
What camp are you in?
I want to see him buy Twitter.
I want to see what he's saying is when you get on, you and I are protected when Starbucks has a coffee bean.
You and I are protected when a McDonald's has a Burger King.
You and I are protected when a 24-hour fitness has an LA fitness.
You and I are protected when a CNN has a Fox.
You and I are not protected because there is zero competitors on social media virtual governments on the opposite side.
None.
Every one of them is one side.
And all the other ones that are on the opposite side, they're very, very small.
So in this case, yeah, I do want him to buy Twitter.
Yeah, I'd like to see other people also buy other platforms.
I'd love to see a conservative buy New York Times.
I'd love to see a fiscally conservative capitalist buy Fortune magazine.
I'd like to see some of those things happening.
But yes, I would like to see this guy win because I want to see 50-50.
That's how I get clear to the truth because I want to see debate.
Speaking of truth, bringing it back to the whole Trump thing and him, you know, basically.
Why are you so active on Truth Social and not on Twitter?
I can't figure this out.
It's just a great platform.
As much as you aim for it.
By the way, is Truth Social legitimate question.
Is it active yet?
People on it yet?
Yeah, no, people are on it.
I'm on it.
People are on it.
How is it?
Do you actually use it?
Is it easy to use?
I've used Getter and Truth again on more of a defensive strategy.
When I see disinformation, people start to run with narratives that are not true.
Then I will correct it.
Also, it's self-gratifying because, again, I don't think I'd had the fortitude to make it through all of this if I didn't have the direct feedback from the half of the country that's always believed me, the half of the country that's been supportive for me, giving me prayers, giving me best wishes, saying that they're behind me.
And it is good because Facebook tells me how big of an asshole I am.
But truth, I get to talk to the people that really, you know, they want to pray for me.
Well, let me ask you, political affiliation.
It's fair to say that you're right-leaning now.
You're voting Republican.
How long have you been voting Republican for?
Have you ever voted for a Democrat?
You know, it's funny because in Delaware, you really can't be registered Republican and vote in any of the primaries or anything like that.
So a lot of people change affiliations.
I didn't even really care about doing that.
The most I've changed my affiliation is because a girl told me that she wouldn't date me if I was a Republican.
How hot was she?
And I'm like, okay, well, that's pretty hot.
I didn't even hesitate.
I got online.
Register.
And how long ago was that?
She'd murder me now.
So this was probably about six years ago.
Well, you guys are still together?
Oh, no, no.
I might as well live near a seminary.
So did you vote for her?
So you're more worried about her than Hunter Biden coming after you.
Well, if she knew then, oh, man.
Well, the worst is, and this is in the book.
So while my father and my uncle were running around trying to knock on Congress's doors and alert them to the existence of the laptop, I had a young lady come into my shop and needed Mac fixed.
And then we started chit-chatting.
And I have a strict rule of never fraternizing with customers because it's inappropriate.
A. B, I don't need social media to somebody, oh, well, if you wiggle your whatever, you'll get a better deal.
You know, I don't need any of that.
You charge her 85 or 45.
I handled her like a customer.
You handled her.
Oh, shit.
All right.
Dude, like a customer.
She was your word.
That word is a straight up like, I handled you tonight.
I'm going to handle you, Michelle.
She showed up at a bar that I frequent the following week.
And then we chit-chatted.
And then the COVID hit and got a lockdown, but we started to continue to have an online relationship.
And that's when she informed me that she used to work for the FBI.
And of course, I'm just like, oh, honeypot, honeypot.
Got to be careful.
And then so we dated and the COVID relaxed.
We started getting very serious.
And she came home.
This is about mid-August.
Yeah.
Came home and said, hey, I just got put on this disinformation board.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, what are you going to run after?
Because she had been working on one with COVID.
She does a lot of TED stuff and stuff like that.
So I'm very liberal, but I'm attracted to women that want to save the world.
So what was the disinformation board?
To go after all the disinformation about Hunter Biden into Ukraine.
Is this a joke right now?
What is happening right now?
I thought I.
So you're saying that you're dating a woman who's on the disinformation board about Hunter Biden.
And for what's happening right now?
I know.
So I was just, again, I hadn't told her anything that was going on.
But, dude, she knows exactly who you are.
You're an asset.
She was my handler.
Wow.
Yeah, I bet she was.
Listen, that world, the word handle, handle can go many different ways.
Come on, we're above board here.
I don't know.
So what's the status of your relationship with you?
Oh, no, no.
Well.
John, what are the odds that you meet some girl online, you start dating?
Long story short, Konzikam.
So she's a disinformation board for Hunter Biden.
Don't you think you were set up?
If you went through my social media profile, you would probably figure out that I have a thing for redheads that are creative and have big hearts and want to save the planet.
So they put one of those together for me.
Oh, so you know, you're admitting that this was scientifically put together for me.
In retrospect, it's like this just couldn't, this was perfect time.
So when's the wedding?
Oh, no, no, no.
It ended very horribly.
And then actually, after it ended, I figured, well, I have no reason now not to step out from the shadows.
I mean, I lost this girl.
And obviously, if that was her effort to kind of get a rise out of me, see what I was doing, saying new, then this is too close and this needs to end.
So that's when I went to Rudy Giuliani's office.
So it was all happened in that August.
But yeah, my lawyer was like, yeah, she's a honeypot.
But are you enjoying your 15 minutes of fame?
Women coming after you?
You're getting on podcasts.
Like you said, you never even had Facebook.
There must be some part of you that's like, well, all right, cool.
People know my name now.
The Mac Isaac family is going to have a great legacy now.
No, don't you think we had one and I was quite happy turning screws in a backwater shop in Wilmington.
This is not the life that I want at all.
I'm not comfortable with it.
If I come across as nervous and uncomfortable, there's a reason for that.
I like helping people.
I like fixing Macs.
It's what I did for a quarter of a century.
Now I'm an author or now I'm on podcasts doing things that I'm not comfortable doing, talking about things that I wish never happened.
And I didn't sign up for it.
But this is my job now and I have a responsibility.
I feel the sincerity.
I totally feel the sincerity.
I feel the sincerity.
So can you do a text to the three red-headed girls that work?
They're not outside.
Not fair.
John only has sex with that hat on.
No, look, look.
That hat is on.
Timeout.
Timeout.
You have to wear the hat with you.
That's it.
I am so afraid of being me too.
I don't go out.
I don't go online.
I don't chat.
I don't even talk to girls that reach out to me because it's no, you know, it's A, my life's a bit of a shit show.
It's a bit of a dumpster fire.
The FBI's rated everybody else who's touched that drive.
I'm sure that they're just trying to figure out how much crap I actually have because they're going to need a 24-foot box truck to empty out my house with technology.
And so these are all things that aren't really necessarily marketable when you're pursuing a relationship.
So yeah, that's so far out of my mind right now.
Plus, I'm so scared if I even look at a girl, she'll be like, oh, he did this.
Me too.
You got to document everything.
Listen, the best comment of the day by KOV12X12X, which I think his name is Paul, and he's a member, he says CNN will only get straightened out when they hire a man like Nohans Carl to run out of work.
I'm sure Vimey and Chris.
Carl for CEO, 100%.
So this other person, zero latency manifestation.
What role, if any, have global intelligence agencies historically played in perpetrating elections fraud worldwide?
And another one here, Smeldy Butler III, what a name, Smedley, Butler III.
So wait, if organizations admitted the laptop was real, could you not take legal action?
They spent months accusing you of colluding with the enemy.
Treason ain't no small time accusation.
Yep.
And that's why, again, back in April, I didn't think I'd have this opportunity, but back in April, my lawyer texted me.
He's like, Merry Christmas.
I was like, are you okay?
And he said, no, Joe Flynn and the America Project want to fund our lawsuits because we had them to go.
But after Twitter, I had to go from offensive to defensive because, you know, that's a big bill.
And I don't want to, I had to go from going to profit to bankruptcy.
It was not, kind of turned me off to the whole legal thing anyway, because it was like the expectation of getting justice.
And then now I'm punished for what I did in the court of law.
But if the American Project wants to step up, then we had Adam Schiff ready to go.
He was top on my list, CNN, Politico.
The Daily Beast just bowed out.
They saw the storm is coming, which is, they just called me a thief for the most part.
They didn't really.
I want to go after that specific narrative of who said that this was Russian disinformation and the people that peddled that narrative.
Because that narrative, to be honest, was a campaign promise.
It was being touted by the Biden campaign as a justification for not having to touch the laptop with a 10-foot pole.
So anybody that talked about that laptop being Russian and helped aid that narrative is on my list.
Is he on?
Okay, so we got a special guest here.
Can you hear us?
Hear you.
Okay, fantastic.
Can you do me a favor and put the picture of him, if you have that, we have a special guest here with us today.
But before you find out who our special guest is, do you have the picture or no?
With him holding the first cell phone or no?
Oh, okay.
Okay, you should put the picture.
Our guest right now, if you're using a cell phone, if you're using a smartphone, if you're using anything that is mobile when it comes onto phones, blame it on this man because he is the inventor of the first cell phone who just the other day he was being interviewed about inventing the new cell phone.
A comment was made about how much people are spending time on smartphones.
And he had an opinion.
I think it's good for everybody else to hear as well.
First of all, hey, thank you.
I don't know if we say thank you or why did you invest this cell phone, but thank you for inventing this great technology that allows us to stay connected with each other.
No, I'm glad you said it that way, Patrick, because this story that the BBC put out kind of implied that the cell phone was not very useful.
And of course, that's certainly wrong.
I don't think for first of all, the cell phone is being used by more people than any other invention in history.
And I think for the most part, that it's positive, that it's improved people's lives, except that there are some people that just get carried away.
And this lady in the BBC interview said that she spends five hours a day on her cell phone, which doesn't make any sense to me at all.
And my response was, get alive.
Now, is it fair to say that you don't spend five hours on your smartphone with, you know, going on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat?
Maybe, I don't know, maybe you're extremely active on TikTok and you have a massive following.
Is your smartphone actively being used by you or no?
You don't spend five hours on your phone?
No, I do not spend five hours on my phone.
My view of technology is that technology makes sense only if it improves your life.
And so I use my phone for research.
Anytime I have an issue that I don't understand, of course I'll look it up on my cell phone.
I don't do social media mostly because it's a time waster.
I think social media is very important in the sense that it brings people together.
But the cell phone is still a very new gadget.
It's only been around in the form that we have it today for 10 or 15 years.
People are still learning about it.
And I think that the social media is a form of learning, but not very efficient.
I'm an engineer, Patrick.
I believe in efficiency.
And I think we're still learning.
Martin, what kind of phone do you use right now?
I'm curious.
I'm so curious to know what you use.
If you pull out one of those big phones that you invented yourself, I would be so impressed.
I do not use this phone.
Damn it.
That is awesome.
I have always tried to use the latest phone that's available.
And what's happened now is that there's really not very much difference.
And I do use an iPhone.
I've tried the folding phones.
They don't really do much for me.
And I think that the existing phone concept is way behind the times.
In the coming years, we're going to see the phone much more personalized, much more useful, distributed around your body instead of being this awful thing that we hold up to.
Really?
You think that?
You're in this position.
It doesn't make any sense at all.
So as I said before, we're still in early times of the cell phone.
We're still learning.
So you think we're going into a phase where we're not going to be having a phone in our pockets, in our hands.
It's just going to be, you know, handless, not even wireless.
You're just not going to have to use anything with it.
You're just going to say, hey, you know, talk to a phone and it's going to make a phone call to somebody with nothing to hang on to.
Absolutely.
The phone, as you refer to it, is ultimately going to be embedded under your skin, maybe behind your ear.
Wow.
It's kind of amusing that you call it a phone because very few people use the phone as a telephone.
Are you kind of throwing your, you know, are you trying to make a comeback?
Like, are you like setting this up for a comeback that you have a phone you're developing and building that we don't know about as an engineer?
No, I'm a has-bend inventor.
I still think of a lot of ideas, but other people are going to have to invent that.
But, you know, the big deal about what we call the phone is it connects you and it connects you in a whole bunch of different ways.
And so this thing that we call a phone is going to be used as an educational tool.
I think every student has to have a device that he can or she can access the internet 24-7.
That's crucial.
I think the future cell phone is a healthcare device.
It can measure everything in your body.
It can head off diseases before they happen.
So I think what we call a cell phone is going to eliminate disease someday.
Let me ask you, for somebody that, you know, this is your space.
You've been following this for all these years.
Does it concern you that we're going to be putting chips in our bodies?
Like if it goes that direction, would that be, would you fight it or would you say, no, I'm totally fine with putting a chip on my body?
Well, I hate to say this, Patrick, but I have two implanted hips that serve me very well.
well.
So putting a chip in my body is always a no-brainer.
I welcome it.
Hey, Martin, do you get a royalty?
My name is Vincent.
Very nice to meet you.
Do you get a royalty for every cell phone sold since you came over to India?
I wish I got a penny for every cell phone.
Oh, my God.
I mean, he started it.
Oh, my God.
That would be, what if he got a penny?
It'd be a whole different story.
Martin, thank you so much for giving us a few minutes of your time.
And I think that there's about 8 billion people in the world who are thankful for you for that invention you made.
Appreciate you.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Patrick.
We'd like to be here.
Have a great day.
Bye-bye.
How awesome is that, right?
No, seriously, just innovation.
Like, you think about those phones back in the days, the brick that you would hang on to.
You would see it in like Miami Vice with Don Johnson and he's driving a car.
What do you call that phone that he's got in his hand?
What would you call that?
That's a brick.
It's a brick.
I would call that the Zach Morris phone.
Oh, God.
That's what you're doing.
Same by the belt.
Yep.
And you're like, the one problem I have with the idea of a chip being embedded in your body becomes the phone or that idea is that a process we're going to have to get done every year when these companies keep coming out with new phones that they need to buy and the battery.
I mean, faster chips.
You got to just go to Apple.
You're like, can you update it?
Can you remove my old chip, put a new chip?
Is that what he actually said that cell phones are going to be implanted in our body?
That is going to be nervous.
Everyone is okay with that?
No, I'm not.
What do you mean?
I'm not going to do that.
If you're watching this, how many of you, if you don't mind, put a thumbs up if you're like, totally fine with a chip being put in my body.
I got other things put into my body.
Or say, never in a million years would I put a chip on my body.
Not to be religious, but they said it in the Bible how long the mark of the beast got.
I'm not putting nothing inside me.
Mark of the beast.
I'm not putting nothing inside of me.
Sorry.
How many people do you think would be okay with that?
Putting a cell phone?
I think people above a certain age are going to be less open to the idea of doing that.
And I think people who are teens, 20s, 30s, they're going to be more open to the idea.
When Facebook first came out and somebody explained to you to Facebook the first time, do you remember the first time somebody explained to Facebook?
Yeah.
How did they explain it?
They said it's what?
You go on this website and you post your pictures and people can't see it.
You're like, I don't want to post my pictures.
And then we're on Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, all these other things that you're doing nowadays.
So who knows?
If the majority do it, by the way, most people are saying no right now.
Of course.
Take a screenshot of you saying no and see if you would say no 15 years from now.
I'm curious.
See if the same people that are saying no today would say no 15 years from now.
Okay.
Tyler, that includes you, by the way.
Do you think Hunter Biden would be okay with that?
If Hunter Biden had a chip in his body, he would have never lost his laptop.
Exactly.
Period.
I don't know.
I don't think he's.
So I've noticed you don't answer things that you don't know the answer to.
Or you don't speculate.
I don't like to speculate.
Well, I noticed that about you.
I worked in the service industry for 25 years.
At Apple, they taught us, you know, don't ever speculate.
The best way to gain a customer's trust, get their confidence, because that's the most important part of the repair, is letting the customer know that you're trustworthy.
You're able to communicate their problem and explain a solution, set an expectation, and then achieve it.
And speculating has no place in the service industry.
I mean, sure, you can, well, it could be this, it could be this, it could be this.
As long as you're right and you can back it up, then you're fine.
But until then, it's best not to speculate.
Well, when your podcasting career blows up, you're going to have to start speculating because that's all we do.
I don't want to podcast.
You don't want to podcast.
Did you guys see what's going on with Canada?
Are you following the story of what's going on in Canada?
So yesterday I just put a tweet out and there's a bunch of guys in Canada that are sending me stuff.
If you want to go to the story, it is page nine.
Okay, if you want to go to page nine, I don't even know if I have page nine.
It says, oh, page six.
Okay, here we go.
So there you go.
Rogers network resuming after major outage hits millions of Canadians.
This is a Reuters story, July 9, two days ago.
Rogers Telemunication said his network was beginning to recover late on Friday after a 19-hour service outage at one of Canada's biggest telecom operations, shut banking, transport, and government access for millions-drawn outrage from customers and adding to criticism over its industry dominance.
Nearly every facet of life has been disrupted with the outage affecting internet access, cell phones, landline phone communication connections.
Some callers could not reach emergency services via 911 calls.
Canadians crowded over, crowded into cafes and public libraries that still had internet access and hovered outside hotels to catch a signal.
Pretty wild for this to happen 19 hours.
When I read it, I almost thought it was a movie.
And I'm like, no, I messaged people.
Is this really happening?
Yep, this is exactly what's going on in Canada right now.
So it's just one network?
Rogers is it?
That's all they have?
Tyler, Rogers Network, is that their main network that they have?
I'm pretty sure that I've never even heard of another one except.
So lady sent me a message.
Here's what she said, private message.
She said, saw your tweet.
Canada, I think you'll find people here who are afraid to speak up publicly.
It's very scary.
We're working on an exit strategy to get assets and family out of the country.
Thank you for posing this question.
Hopefully people will start talking.
Also, love your work, especially your content webinar, preparing for a recession.
But I definitely love Adam the most.
So here you go.
That I added at the end.
I think that's cool.
Appreciate that.
Okay, here we go with about 10 million wireless subscribers and 2.25 retail owners subscribers.
Rogers is the top provider in Ontario, Canada's most populous province and home to its biggest Toronto city, Toronto.
Rogers BC and tell us control 90% of the market share.
Okay, so this is not just a small company that this is happening to.
No, and I've heard people are pretty upset with the monopolization that they have.
I mean, the outsized market share that they control.
Is that 90%?
They control 90% of the market share.
Full-on monopoly.
At what point has it become a monopoly?
40% of the state.
That's exactly.
There's different numbers that you hear about, 46%, 64%, but there's different numbers.
But 90% qualifying monopoly.
And you messaged this yesterday in Instagram, and Raul came back with a pretty interesting point that this is what, remember, Dr. Peter Pry talked about.
If you had not a solar flare, but brought the network down, it would be something equivalent to this.
Shutting down the banking systems, television, phone lines, everything would shut down.
It's pretty interesting.
I'm going to show you something, Tyler.
I'm going to give this to you.
Put this up on the big screen so people can see it.
This is a shout out to the Prime Minister of Canada.
So he was walking in Canada and people were shouting at him.
And it was not friendly.
Because when I posted this, a bunch of people from Canada sent me a bunch of tweets.
Look at this data here.
Debt from pre-Trudeau, all the prime ministers combined since 1867, $630 billion in debt.
Just under Trudeau, $662 billion in debt.
That's a big number right there.
I mean, Trudeau must be very competitive to put a number like that.
Okay.
You know, and by the way, if you keep doing that to a country that doesn't have the biggest GDP in the world, 662 in America is what?
Nothing.
But 662 for a Canada, that's a lot of money right there.
Well, now it's nothing.
I remember during 2008, the recession, when we were going to bail out whoever we were bailing out, it was still in the billions.
It was still like 900 and something billion.
Now we don't bat an eye when we're cutting checks for trillion.
We printed, what, $5 trillion since the pandemic?
So we're in the trillions now.
They're still working with billions.
They've got some catching up to do.
By the way, you must have some strong...
I mean, we've sat down with Jordan Peterson here, Canadian.
Yeah.
This was during the Truckers Revolt that they were doing in Ontario.
We've had Dr. Gad sat here recently, basically saying, I've gone into business with the Canadian government.
They take 60% of my earnings.
I run into Canadians all the time.
I had a couple, I saw a couple of buddies that I ran into in Miami this weekend basically saying, I got to get the hell out of this Godforsaken country.
What the hell is going on in Canada?
Has it just become so far extreme?
Socialism?
Is it Trudeau is just an authoritarian disguised as a nice guy?
What do you think is happening in Canada?
You're asking him where you're asking you.
I mean, it's exactly what happens when you give somebody too much power and their motives are not positive motives.
The results are this, you know, what's taking place in Canada.
And the reality of it is a lot of people that were messaging me, they were all saying the same thing.
We're trying to figure out a way to leave here with our assets.
Okay.
When we left Iran, this is the story that most people don't hear about.
Maybe you have stories like this as well.
A lot of people, when they left Iran, the people that left pre-Shah's revolution, they left with their money.
But the people that left post-Shah's revolution and Khomeini came in, they couldn't leave with their money.
So the money was left.
So if you'd like, let's just say you sold a property in Iran and you wanted to bring your money to the States, that wasn't easy to do.
So imagine you're living in Canada.
You got a million bucks there.
You got a half a million.
You've been working 40 years and you got a half a million bucks.
You got a million dollars saved.
You're trying to come to the States.
You know, you want to take that out.
I don't know if that's the case, but if they're going in this direction of doing things like this, it's a scary sight.
Look, again, it goes back to the following.
Don't just vote for somebody because they're attractive and they speak well.
And their father was a former PM whose mom had a fling with Fidel Castro, which he looks just like.
Jordan Peterson shot that down.
Well, he can't shut it down because he's from Toronto.
He doesn't want his funds to be protected before he leaves.
But look at that right there.
I mean, that's way too close.
Close.
Way too much.
Before he even said it, that was exactly where I was headed.
What?
To the factory.
So look, what's the difference between a capitalist and a socialist when it comes down to their philosophy speaking publicly?
What is the difference between a capitalist and a socialist when it comes down to telling the world publicly?
What's the difference?
The socialist says, I'll do everything for you.
The capitalist says, no, thank you.
I'll do myself.
The capitalist is very comfortable telling the world he's a capitalist.
The socialist keeps it a secret until he has enough control to say, all along, I was about socialism.
There's a video that a guy sent me yesterday.
I'm going to send to you, Tyler, to play this of Maxine Waters.
Did you see that video or no?
No.
So this is from 2008 when the marquee crash takes place, which, by the way, you're going to see this happening in America today.
Tyler, I'm texting it to you to put it up.
Just show the text of what I just sent you.
So, oh, wait, there's a hearing.
And Maxine Waters is talking to the CEO of Shell.
And the CEO of Shell is saying, look, if you keep doing what you're doing, $5 gas prices are going to be a thing of the past.
This is when?
08, 14 years ago.
Look at Maxine Waters' response.
Just put the audio, yeah, put the audio up and just play from the beginning.
Watch this, folks.
To the American people, because of the inaction of the United States Congress ever increasing prices unless the demand comes down.
And the $5 will look like a very low price in the years to come if we are prohibited from finding new reserves, new opportunities to increase supplies.
And guess what this liberal would be all about?
This liberal will be all about socializing.
Would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies to the American people.
You couldn't even hold it.
So all I'm saying to you is, folks, speculation.
Let's speculate.
Okay?
I can speculate.
You don't have to speculate.
Let me do the speculation.
You stick to the red-headed.
I'm going to stick to the speculation.
You ready?
Here's some speculation.
Okay.
If there was a strategy with oil prices to nationalize it, what would you do first?
First, you create policies like shutting down the what?
The Keystone pipeline that we can control gas prices.
Day one.
You shut them down first, day one, which they did.
Two, you actually allow gas prices to increase to hurt who?
Low and middle-income families.
Three, you blame who?
Shell, Exxon, Mobile, everybody.
Four, you come and you say what?
This is why oil should be something that's nationalized and managed by who?
The government.
If that's your strategy, that's the proper four-step sequence to nationalize oil.
Okay.
And folks, you do not want that industry to be nationalized as much as they're thinking we're going to go green.
We did a video on EV versus gas.
The price paid to go 100% EV, it's going to be on the backs of a lot of workers in what is that one place in Africa?
The Congo, Democratic Congress.
Congo that's got what?
60% of the cobalt or some 64% the world's cobalt that China bought the land to this place.
Yeah, and all these people that are working.
This is not going to be an overnight thing.
You use oil more than you think we do.
But the marketing and the way the story is telling being told, it's different.
So socialize.
You just saw Maxine Waters from California.
She tried to hold it back.
Couldn't do it.
She couldn't do it.
And no way.
It slipped up.
So anyways, I wanted to show that video to you because I want all of you guys to go start your week on a good note with a lot of positivity, a lot of excitement.
Can I make one crazy prediction?
Let's go.
Can I make one crazy prediction?
So I just shot a real estate video, okay, at the house.
And we had our research team pull up a bunch of data because I'm talking to a lot of realtors, loan officers, and mortgage brokers, title, escrow, a lot of these guys.
And the video that was made when we called that Dave Ramsey a lot.
Oh my God, can I believe you're saying this?
And oh, I was like, well, you know, no problem.
You don't have to listen to it.
I'm just telling you, it's what we did.
Can I tell you crazy stat Q1 this year over Q1 last year?
What percentage do you think foreclosures in America have increased?
Q1 this year over Q1 last year?
10%?
How much do you think foreclosures have increased?
Q1 of this year over Q1 of last year?
15%?
What would you say?
Just guess.
That's a lot, by the way.
20%?
I don't know.
Pick the number.
From last year.
Last year, Q1 versus this year, Q1.
How much do you think?
And by the way, Q1, the rates were still okay.
The rates have gone up the last two months is what's happened.
That's been kind of scary.
How much do you think it increases foreclosures?
I'll say 20%.
What are you going to say?
North of that.
You're going to say you wrote 40%.
How about 700%?
What?
Q1.
23,000 foreclosures.
Last year we had around 2,500 to 3,000 foreclosures.
Do you hear what I just said?
And by the way, it hasn't even started yet.
And it's 700% foreclosures Q1.
The data we got on what buyers are doing, what investors are doing, what escrow people are doing, what loan officers don't do.
I mean, that video is going to be coming out here in the next week.
I think we're going to be doing a live real estate webinar.
I think it's going to be next Tuesday night.
Stay tuned.
The details will be made.
This will be packed.
Everybody will be on this webinar when this goes out next Tuesday.
Here's a crazy prediction for you.
People don't want to hear it.
I think 30-year fixed mortgage rates will eventually get to 10% in the next six, 12, 18 months.
Okay?
We said gas price is $10.
That's one side.
That's becoming more and more possible that it could happen.
California, there's $7, $8 prices over there.
Interest rates, $30 are fixed.
Don't be surprised if they crack 10%.
Now, all this stuff being said and done, you're going to see a lot of mess happening.
My biggest suggestion to you, I'm telling you, don't overspend.
Save your cash.
Go make income.
Have a secondary income.
Set that money aside.
There's going to be a lot of opportunities.
And there's unfortunately going to be some people that are going to be asking their, you know, hey, can I get this job?
Can I get that job?
Who had a few hundred thousand dollars in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency?
They're going to go through that.
This is going to be a very strange next six, 12, 18, 24.
And by the way, for the people that are like, Pat's crazy, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Okay with that.
Just if you don't study history, you're doomed to repeat it.
This is exactly what happened in the late 70s, early 80s under our friend, your friend, Jimmy Carter.
By the way, can you do me a favor?
Can you do me a favor?
Go on my Twitter account, go on my Twitter account, and matter of fact, let me see if I can send this to you.
Go on my Twitter account, go on Twitter, and go up, Play that video.
Play that video right above our Maxine Waters video.
Just play that video.
Pause it first.
If you can, pause it first.
Make it bigger.
Make the screen bigger.
Yeah.
Audio.
And look at the date.
What's the date?
2018.
That's three and a half years ago.
I already knew it was prior to 2020 because you had the shaved head.
This is before you started rocking the great hair.
Yes, dad.
That was so much easier.
So easier, isn't it?
Watch this.
Watch this.
Two things.
Something's going to happen in the next five years.
And the people that are going to make massive wealth are the ones that save cash.
So I'm a cash guy.
Not always.
I'm a cash guy pre-crisis.
You're a cash guy pre-crisis.
Pre-crisis.
Which is now.
So right now is a great time to have a lot of cash.
Here's a rule of zero.
The rule of zero is tough.
This is going to be.
You are very greedy to date.
Because it sounds easy saying it, but let me explain to you the power of zero.
So here's what we're going to call the rule of 10.
It hasn't even started.
When 2008 took place, a lot of people lost money.
They were talking about the 401k is now the 201k.
I had clients, I would go look at their statement.
They would say, I only have $380,000.
I'm like, that's not bad for you.
She says, well, this used to be $790,000.
Well, that's a pretty bad thing right there.
And they're 64 years old.
What do you tell this person?
They got to work for another seven more years.
They were planning on retiring for one year, but because they were not fully ready and they did not take advantage of the power of zero.
Because in 2008, the market tanked 38%.
In 2008, if you did 0% in 2008, that really means you did plus 38% compared to what the market did.
So you have to also be paying attention to the offense you're playing.
You got to be playing offense as well.
Of course, if you want to create wealth, offense, But you got to have a certain strategy on how you can take advantage of the rule of zero.
So when it does happen, you have more that's sitting for you to say, this is my next opportunity to go in because you paid attention to the rule.
Okay, pause right there.
So we've been seeing this for a while from Valutain.
So if you've been following the content, this has been the message for five years that this season is eventually going to come.
In the history of America since inception, you know how many recessions we've had?
Since 1850, you know how many recessions we've had?
You know what the number is?
44.
It breaks down to be what?
A recession every five to 10 years.
When was the last time we had a recession?
It was 08.
We haven't had one for 14 years.
So that's the data.
Recession is very... Coverside, because the quick...
Forget about...
Exactly.
It was not recession.
COVID was just a panic.
Manufactured recession.
We haven't had a recession in 14 years.
We're overdue for a recession.
Don't sit there being naive.
So it'll never happen.
You're being negative.
I'm just telling you, it's a cycle.
Okay.
It's a cycle that's coming.
Anyways, great podcast.
We appreciate you for having the courage to come out and talk to us.
5,000 of them out there.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people that wait for you.
John Paul Mac Isaac in the house.
John Paul McIntyre in the house.
Guys, do me a favor.
Are you on Twitter or you're not on?
That's right.
You're not.
You're on the other side.
Go ask Bill.
Go tweet at Bill Maher and just tell him, hey, can you please have John Paul MacIsaac on your show?
Go and tweet CNN and say, hey, today, John Paul Mac Isaac was on PBD podcast.
Can you please invite him to CNN?
Host that you respect.
Go ask them.
Why don't you bring in, investigate, do some investigative journalism.
Why are you not the people that you like the most?
Why don't you tell them?
I would like you to see how you're going to interview John Paul Mac Isaac differently than they did on PBD podcast.
But we need more of this conversation being had.
Having said that, I think you got a book coming out November 22nd of 2022.
Hopefully sooner.
Hopefully sooner.
When it does, audience will be able to find it.
And this is the website to go to the next one.
This is the Give, Send, Go.
All of it will be in the description in the chat.
What's the website called?
So in case on the podcast site?
It's a Give, Send, Go.
So it's like the Christian GoFundMe and their.
Give, Send, Go and just Build Back Mac Isaac.
You know, kind of a play on Build Back Better.
I love that.
I hope I get some usefulness out of this.
I love that part.
I do want to say thank you to everybody that has contributed because bankruptcy no longer looks like my only option.
So I'm grateful for that.
That has taken a weight off my shoulders.
So now I can focus in on trying to hold these people accountable, getting to discovery, and making sure that our next election, we don't have this collusion that we did the last time.
Well, listen, we appreciate your sincerity, and we appreciate you being willing to come and talk about it.
Gank, have a great day.
We're going to do this again on Thursday.
Value Time and Comedy came out with a new clip.
If you haven't seen it, go meet Carl.
Carl?
Carl?
No hands, Carl.
No hands, Carl.
My dad watched it was cracking up.
What do you got going on this week?
Some interesting ladies won't be here from the Exotica conference.
Oh, my God.
Is there a name that you can drop?
We have Alexis Texas coming through and some of her lady friends.
What audience you're going into.
We're going to be talking about what women are doing with their money these days.
That's all types of women.
Okay.
All right.
That's skip.
Well, if there's a redhead there, you may have to.
