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Owen Report - 11-26-25 - War Mongers Attack Steve Witkoff As Peace Deal Almost Done
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Ladies and gentlemen, it is Wednesday, November 26, 2025.
And here's what's coming up on the Owen Report today.
Well, ladies and gentlemen,
as we go live, about an hour or so ago, two National Guardsmen were shot.
And it is breaking news now.
They are dead.
Two National Guardsmen shot and killed in Washington, D.C. today.
These West Virginia Guardsmen were ambushed by an individual about an hour or so ago.
The individual is in custody.
He was shot, stripped, and arrested and taken to a hospital.
And people, of course, are talking about, is it a coincidence that this happens just after the Democrats put out that video targeting members of the military, trying to get them to disobey Trump, start some sort of, I guess, coup.
People are wondering if these two things are connected.
I think you could also ask, how is it Washington, D.C., with all of its gun control laws, how can this be?
How can somebody get shot in Washington, D.C. with all the gun control laws?
A sad state of affairs on Thanksgiving Eve that this is going on.
And then you have, this was the big news for the day until this double homicide of two National Guardsmen in D.C.
This would have been the big story.
Steve Witkoff, it appears, is close to reaching a peace deal with Ukraine and Russia.
So here come the warmongers.
Here comes the swamp.
Here comes the deep state.
Here comes the neocons.
Here come the Ukraine flag liberals.
And now they're trying to sabotage Steve Witkov's peace deal.
Yeah.
And it looks like this sabotage may have actually came from Europe with a leak.
And now the warmongers, neocons, Ukraine flag waivers, now they're all attacking Witkov, accusing him of being a Russian agent, saying he's guilty of treason.
Unbelievable, unbelievable how sick these warmongers are on the left and the right.
You guys are disgusting.
Now you may recall something similar happened before Witkov was able to broker the peace deal with Israel and Palestine, of course, you know, take that with a grain of salt.
But you may recall that they were attacking Witkoff right before that too.
And they were saying, how dare Witkov talk to the Palestinians?
How dare Witkov talk to the leaders of Hamas or Hezbollah?
And how dare he do so without the approval of Netanyahu?
And how dare he do so without somebody from the Israel regime there to navigate it and control it?
How dare he?
Remember that?
It's a very similar thing happening right now to Witkoff.
Very similar thing.
Now I got some other odds and ends.
We got some other news, some video clips we'll play today.
But you know, it's funny.
Well, maybe I'll get to this when we open the show with the Witcoff news.
And we will take a bunch of calls today.
But there's something funny about the response in all of this Witcoff news that I'm seeing because I'm standing up for Steve Witkoff today, just like I was when he was being attacked by the warmongers for trying to get a peace deal between Israel and Hamas.
Yeah, I'll explain all that.
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So, well, the story is a lone gunman shot and killed two West Virginia National Guardsmen in D.C. hours ago.
They've both now been declared dead.
The suspect is in custody, severely wounded.
He is on his way or at the hospital now.
And obviously, there's an ongoing investigation into this.
So is there a connection to the Democrats and them targeting the military, telling them to disobey orders?
Is it another radical leftist Democrat targeting men and women in uniform?
Is it something else?
Are we going to talk about how gun control laws don't work?
That's pretty much the story.
If there's any other update, we'll let you know.
I want to talk about the situation with Steve Witkoff going through it again.
The response today.
The response to the response.
Let's put it like that.
Sorry for the redundancy, but there's a response to the response.
It's very telling.
It looks like this sabotage originated in Europe with the leak of a phone call that was from a while ago.
It wasn't even recent.
So who knows how relevant it even is, quite frankly.
It has virtually the same directional earmarks, let's say, of when Witkoff was under attack months ago, trying to broker a peace deal between Israel and Hamas.
And you may recall the same people were attacking Witkoff, saying, how dare he?
How dare he negotiate with Hamas?
How dare he not let Netanyahu control the negotiations?
How dare he not have an Israeli representative at the table when he's working on these negotiations?
You may recall these attacks on Witkoff months ago before he was able to broker that peace deal.
We say that in jest, the peace deal, as Israel's now killed over 300 people, 300 Palestinians since the peace deal.
They've struck, I think they've hit four different countries with missiles.
We may get to that.
But no, it's the same attacks on Witkoff.
And I guess I would start, let's try to find any logic in this.
Now, I have been a major, I don't know if major is the right word, but I've been supportive of Witkov.
But that's more because I'm just supportive of the truth and reality and calling things as I see them.
So when I saw Witkoff trying to broker the peace deal with Hamas and Israel, and we were getting close to a deal being done and the killing stopping, and then what did you see?
You saw all the people attacking Witkoff.
Oh, he's working with Hamas.
Oh, he's a traitor.
When really, he was just trying to broker a peace deal.
He was just doing the job that Donald Trump sent him to do, the president sent him to do.
And so it was very telling then that, okay, the neocons, it was mostly just the neocons at that point, the neocons in the Israeli lobby attacking Witkoff.
How dare you negotiate with Hamas?
How dare you not let Netanyahu in on the negotiations?
How dare you not let an Israeli representative be there for the negotiations?
So that told you everything you needed to know about that deal.
Israel was not acting in good faith.
Israel was not negotiating in good faith.
And that's what happens when liars are about to be exposed.
They freak out.
Because what happens is when a liar loses control of the narrative, what do they do?
Well, they try to block you from talking to somebody else.
Because they realize that if you talk to somebody else, you might realize that, huh, I've been lied to.
I've been lied to about said person.
I've been lied to about said situation.
So that's what was going on when Witkoff was meeting with the leaders of Hamas.
It was the big reveal moment that Israel was lying.
Israel was not acting in good faith.
And Israel was really not interested in a peace deal.
They were interested in whatever it was that kicked this thing off with the stand down on October 7th, whatever that agenda was.
That's all Israel was interested in.
And now even with the peace deal, they're still killing people by the hundreds.
So that was the big moment months ago for me that exposed that Witkov is acting in good faith, that Steve Witkov is trying to get peace deals done, and he's willing to take whatever measurements and angles and opportunities are available to him to accomplish these peace deals.
And then on the other side of that, watching the Israeli lobby and the Israeli regime freak out about Witkoff having conversations to try to get a peace deal done.
That was very exposing from where they're coming from.
They're not interested in peace.
And they're scared of Witkoff talking to somebody else without them in the room because it'll expose their lives and it'll expose that they're not negotiating in good faith.
So now here we are today, the same thing happening to Witkoff.
It looks like we're on the brink of a peace deal.
It looks like there's only maybe a couple obstacles in the way to get this peace deal done, but it looks like it's ready to go.
And now here comes some leaked phone call, which to me is mostly irrelevant.
I can get into the details of it, but it's not even a recent call.
There have been so much, so many things have developed and happened since this phone call got leaked that it's mostly an irrelevant phone call.
I mean, you could say it adds context and it has historical significance.
But as far as getting this deal done that's on the table, it's virtually irrelevant, but fine.
Fine.
I'll address the panic over this phone call.
And so the way that they're trying to frame this, the way that they're trying to contextualize this is that, oh my gosh, Steve Witkov is giving Russia everything they want.
This is Russia negotiating the deal.
So, all right, well, words have meaning.
I'm not even sure that I accept that premise, but I'm willing to go there.
All right.
Well, let me ask this to the people out there attacking Witkov, and it's everywhere today, folks.
It's everywhere.
Now, sadly, these two National Guardsmen just died in a shooting.
So the heat on Witkov is going to cool off, and the media is going to focus on that now.
But this would have been your story from beginning to end.
This would have been your story from the launch of the news day to the end of the news day.
It would have been all about Witkov, this leaked phone call, the peace deal, everything.
Witkov's a traitor.
I mean, folk, you should see the attacks on Witkov.
And I may present some of them today.
But if you're following the news, if you're following X, you know that Witkov is under extreme attack, extreme scrutiny today.
So let me accept the premise that this is Russia negotiating the deal and this is Russia getting everything it wants in the deal.
I don't agree with that premise, but I'll accept it just to address it.
And I would say this, because that's one of the big attacks on Witkov today, the one that's not personal, people calling him a traitor, treasonous, all these other things.
It's the warmongers.
It's the neocons.
It's the Ukraine flag liberals.
Oh, it's Russia getting what it wants.
Oh, it's Russia negotiating the peace deal.
Okay.
So let me ask you then, if that's where you're at today, if that's what you're saying today, let me just ask you then.
As opposed to what?
As opposed to what?
What would you prefer?
Have you even thought about it?
Have you even contemplated it?
Do you even think at all?
Can you think at all?
Do you even understand geopolitics past regurgitating whatever slop that you consume?
Tell me what's supposed to happen in these peace negotiations.
Tell me.
Unless you don't want peace.
And maybe that's the bottom line.
Maybe that's the ultimate truth.
They don't want peace.
And that would actually make the most sense.
But I'm just curious.
Oh, Russia's negotiating.
Russia's getting what it wants.
As opposed to what?
I'd love to hear the alternative options here.
As opposed to what?
Ukraine getting everything at once?
Tell me, what leg does Ukraine have to demand anything right now?
Ukraine can't even wage its own war.
Ukraine can't fund its own war.
Ukraine can't arm its own war.
There aren't even many Ukrainians left to fight this war, and virtually none of them even want to fight this war anymore.
So you tell me then, how is it supposed to go?
If it's not Russia getting what it wants, then what are we supposed to do here?
How is Ukraine going to get what it wants out of this deal?
What does Ukraine even want?
Nobody seems to be answering these questions.
Nobody seems to be able to answer these questions.
Nobody even wants to ask these questions.
What are you going to do?
Are you going to tell Europe?
Does Europe have to fight Russia in Ukraine, a non-NATO country?
Does Europe have to pay more money?
Does Europe have to send more weapons?
Does Europe have to send men?
What's your alternative?
Does America, does America need to send more money?
Does America need to send more ammunition, more weapons, jets, tanks, whatever they need?
Does America need to send men?
What's the alternative?
You don't like Russia negotiating its terms.
You don't like Witkov giving in to Russia's demands.
I'm just curious.
What is your alternative then?
Because here's the answer: there is no alternative.
The only other alternative would be for the United States of America, and you could throw in NATO, but they're going to do whatever the United States does.
They just want the war.
NATO just wants the war to continue because it's a big cash grab.
It's a big money laundering operation.
And they want to keep the excuse hot for the United States to continue to fund NATO, which we should stop and get out of.
So it's all the same motives to keep the war going.
It's all the same usual motives.
But nobody has an alternative.
Nobody can even think about an alternative.
So let's see.
Do you want peace or do you want war?
Because if you want peace, this is the deal.
Ukraine has lost this war badly, and there's no winning for Ukraine.
And if you want Europe or the United States to get more involved, that's going to mean boots on the ground.
Is that what you want?
Go ahead and say it.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, neocons.
Go ahead, warmongers.
Open your big, fat, stinking mouth and say that American men and women and European men and women need to go boots on the ground to fight Russia and Ukraine.
Go ahead and say it.
Go ahead.
Come on.
Why don't you go volunteer?
No, it's no coincidence that this leaked call, probably illegal spying on U.S. diplomatic phone calls, leaked to the media from Europe.
Who are our allies?
Illegally spying on Steve Witkov, leaking it to the press.
These are our allies.
These are our friends.
Probably a NATO country that did this.
And they do it today?
They wait.
They do it today because there's about to be a peace deal struck.
Zelensky and Putin are about to come to the table and finally get a peace deal done.
There's talks of Zelensky even coming to DC to finish this deal.
And so they leak it.
And so they sabotage it because they got to keep the war going.
There's nothing these people love more than war, more death, more destruction.
They're sick.
They're demonic.
Now, before I close that out, I find it funny because it just shows you how there's such misunderstanding in the political conversation at the people level, let's say.
Obviously, there's a giant misunderstanding as far as geopolitics are concerned because people are just lazy and they're not interested in the truth.
They just want to regurgitate slop.
But so I'm defending Witkoff today on X as I've defended Witkoff in the past when he's been under attack in a very similar circumstance.
And I see all these woke right people that have been attacking me for the last couple of months.
And they're attacking me today.
And they say, don't you know Steve Witkoff is a Jew?
Don't you know Steve Witkoff is a Zionist?
So?
What's your point?
Oh, oh, you think I'm some sort of an anti-Semite?
Oh, you think I'm some sort of a Jew hater?
Right.
Never was.
See?
So you just got it wrong again.
I will say this: you guys are consistent with one thing.
You get everything wrong.
The woke right, the neocons, you guys are really consistent at getting things wrong.
And by the way, I don't defend Steve Witkoff because he's a Zionist or a Jew.
I don't care.
I don't even hear him talking about his geopolitical issues.
So I don't know where he stands.
I could take a guess.
It doesn't matter.
I'm here to defend the truth.
That's what I do.
I call it as I see it, and I defend the truth.
And I'm not going to sit here and watch the one guy who seems to be actually interested in getting a peace deal done, the one guy who's continued to work towards these peace deals, the one guy, and it looks like he's finally getting them done.
And it's the same people attacking him, the same bad faith actors attacking him, trying to sabotage his peace deal.
I've always been supportive of Steve Witkoff, actually.
So you guys just got it wrong again.
You don't get anything right.
You don't even try.
You're intellectually lazy.
You're geopolitically ignorant.
And you are now the NPCs of the 2025, heading into 2026 political conversation.
You are now the NPCs, the woke right, the NPCs.
Witkoff bad.
Why?
Because Russia is getting what it wants, as opposed to what?
As opposed to what?
Do you want a peace deal done?
Do you want peace or do you want war?
Do you want to spend more American tax dollars in Ukraine to be laundered?
Do you want to send more weapons over there to deplete our military?
Do you want to see another 100,000 people die in the war?
Oh, you can't support Steve.
You're not allowed to support Steve Witkoff.
We called you an anti-Semite.
Well, I'm not.
So you're just wrong again.
You guys never get sick of being wrong, do you?
You really enjoy it.
Yeah.
And then I saw something about the Tucker Carlson Sean Ryan interview.
Man, I might have it in my stack.
Oh, oh, it was.
Oh, what was it?
I can probably find it actually if it's not in my stack on my desk.
I don't think it is.
Yeah, here it is.
I'm sure you guys have seen this account before.
Han Shawnity.
Again, it just shows how these people are not even interested in reality, folks, and they're so far from it.
He says, what do you think Tucker Carlson's end game is?
You guys, you guys literally cannot even comprehend America first, can you?
You just, you, you are now liberalism is a mental disorder, but it's, it's now you guys.
You guys are the woke right.
You guys have the mental disorder.
You literally cannot even comprehend what America first means.
There's something wrong with your brain chemistry.
You're mentally retarded.
You have some sort of mental disorder.
And for whatever reason, you cannot comprehend America first.
It just, it does not, it just cannot catch with you.
You can't comprehend it.
You have no clue.
You can't see it.
You can't feel it.
You can't taste it.
You can't perceive it.
You have no clue whatsoever.
What is Tucker Carlson's endgame?
It's called America First.
It's called American Nationalism.
It's called Another American Century.
It's called Rebuilding America's Infrastructure.
It's called reforming America's corrupt government.
It's called changing our corrupt foreign policy that's massively unpopular and has been a disaster for the entire planet.
It's called rethinking, reconsidering what it means to be an American, what it means when we say American culture.
It's called America First.
You guys literally can't even comprehend it.
Tucker Carlson's endgame.
You guys are lost in a world that doesn't exist.
You're mentally retarded.
And now you're part of some weird cult that can't even, you don't even understand what it is you're fighting or who it is you're fighting.
You don't even try.
If you don't understand what is Tucker Carlson's endgame, you just, you just are mentally impaired.
You're mentally disabled.
And for whatever reason, you can't even comprehend American nationalism.
It just doesn't exist to you.
You don't understand it.
It's like you don't even try.
And that's why you guys are the woke right.
And that's why MAGA is dead.
Because you guys are MAGA now, but you don't even know what MAGA is.
And I see these posts on X and they say, oh, everybody's saying MAGA is dead as a foreign bot.
None of you.
And I mean none of you, because I went and looked.
None of you supported Trump in 2016.
Not one.
Don't tell me about MAGA.
I don't want to hear from you what MAGA is.
Your brand of MAGA is not our brand of MAGA.
And our brand of MAGA was here before you even existed.
So I don't know what it is about this new woke right.
I don't know what it is about this new MAGA cult, but I've identified the mental disability.
I've identified the mental impairment here.
They literally cannot even comprehend America first.
It just, it's like a ghost.
They can't see it.
It's like an apparition.
Doesn't exist the idea, the concept of American nationalism, foreign to them, like a foreign language, might as well be Egyptian hieroglyph.
They just don't get it.
And no matter how much you try to get them to understand it, no matter how much you try to represent it in the form of a public forum or a debate, they just can't get it.
Now, you can try to sort it out in your own head why, but that's what it is.
That's what it is.
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Okay, so, you know, Witkoff, it's kind of sick to even talk like this, but I do think it's the reality.
The shooting of these national guards is taking a lot of the heat off of Witkoff right now.
So, obviously, very tragic, these two National Guards shot and killed today.
Very likely it's another act of left-wing terror, but we'll wait and see before we reach any conclusions here.
Even the killer is in critical condition right now, but it looks like we'll survive.
Otherwise, it would be Witkoff 24-7 today attacking him today.
That's what the news would be right now, but covering the tragic shooting in D.C. instead, which, you know, probably a good thing because Witkoff doesn't deserve the treatment that he's getting.
He doesn't deserve it.
And it's just wild.
Like, what do you guys want?
You guys want more death?
You want more war?
What is it that you want?
Is it just that you're so committed?
Maybe that's what it is.
It's kind of like, and this is basic human psychology.
I'm guilty of it.
I'm a contrarian at heart.
I'm a contrarian instinctually.
All right.
I can relate to that.
But it's like, do you guys just hate original MAGA?
Do you guys just hate Trump's voting base so much that you've just decided to be pro-swamp now?
Is that what's going on?
It's like, you know, that we don't like war, so now you like war?
Is that what it is?
It's like, you guys know we don't like the deep state, so now you guys like the deep state.
Is that what it is?
You guys know we like Marjorie Taylor Greene, so now you hate her.
You know, we like Tucker Carlson, so you hate her.
Is that the game you guys are playing?
I'm just trying to understand your psychology here because you guys seem like you've lost your minds on the woke right.
You really do.
You really do.
By the way, they did dismiss the case against Trump in Georgia, the election case.
So you could say that's a victory for Trump.
You know, I wouldn't be so comfortable.
I wouldn't be so comfortable if I was Trump because I still think they're setting him up.
And if they want, they'll find a way to bring these charges back, by the way.
Don't get it confused.
But I'm thinking about, again, this situation with the drug boats that were in the news again today.
And it's like, you just, you got to ask the right questions, folks.
You got to ask the right questions.
Whose idea was it to start bombing these drug boats?
Whose idea was it?
And you might say, oh, well, it was Trump's idea, okay, but whose idea was it?
Trump didn't come up with this idea.
Trump didn't sit down at the resolute desk and say, I want to start bombing drug boats.
Somebody brought him Intel and basically, you know, incepted the idea in his head.
Now, Trump's always been against drugs, so it's very easy to get Trump to take a very hard stance against drug dealers.
It's not like that's something you have to fight him on.
So that's my concern.
Who is the one that implanted this entire idea, this domino effect that led to Trump green lighting bombing these boats that are coming into the country, allegedly drug boats?
Now, I say allegedly, I don't know that.
You don't know that.
They're not giving us any evidence of that.
But let me ask you this question.
If these are drug boats, tell me if this makes any sense because to me, it doesn't.
And this is why I'm maybe extremely skeptical over the situation.
Because to me, this makes no sense.
If these are drug boats and we're talking, I mean, if you have a boat and you're hauling drugs to the United States, you're probably not a little fish.
You know what I mean?
You're not selling dime bags.
Okay.
You're moving weight.
You're making big deals.
You're a big-time pusher, well-connected, well-informed, well-funded, well-organized.
If you're doing boatloads of drug deliveries to the United States, so considering that the first drug boat gets bombed, you don't think they realize what's going on?
The first drug boat gets bombed.
You don't think all of these different drug dealers and cartels, the narco-traffickers, you don't think they just said, hmm, we just got blown up from the sky.
The Trump administration brags about it.
Oh, our drug dealers moving our drugs on boat are getting bombed.
They're getting hit with missiles.
What's the value of these drugs and these boats?
Six figures minimum?
They could have million dollars.
They could have a million dollars worth of drugs on these boats, folks.
So tell me why.
Tell me how this makes any sense.
They've now, I believe the number is eight boats.
I could get an update.
I think it's eight boats.
If the drug dealers, these are the most well-funded, well-organized, well-connected drug dealers with boats and a million dollars of drugs that they're sending to the United States of America.
The minute they figure out that they're getting targeted for missile strikes by the U.S. military, why would they send another boat?
Can anybody make logical sense of that for me?
If they have a million dollars of product on a boat, do you think they're going to risk that knowing they're just sitting ducks in open water?
Why would they do that?
I'm sorry.
Doesn't make any sense to me.
Makes absolutely no sense to me.
Now, some lone fisherman or some explorer or whatever out on the ocean, they might not know what's going on.
They might not follow political news.
They don't know people are getting launched with missiles out of the sky.
And even if they did, maybe they believe that it's, oh, it's just drug dealers.
It's not going to be me.
I'm sorry.
I have a hard time with this logic.
I have a hard time believing that the most well-connected, well-funded, well-organized drug cartels are just going to openly volunteer their boats, their product, probably a million dollars.
They're just going to send it out into the ocean to have the Trump administration blow it out of the water.
I'm sorry.
I have a hard time believing that.
My guess is after one time, they'd probably get wise and stop.
Maybe two, three, four, five, seven, eight?
They're just going to keep sending boats with a million dollars of drugs.
Do you really believe that?
I'm sorry.
It makes no sense to me.
Makes no sense to me.
It's gone kind of silent lately, though.
I'm just afraid that Trump is being set up.
That's what I'm afraid of.
I'm afraid he's being set up for impeachment, and I wouldn't relax for a second if I was President Trump.
Even though you're president and apparently in charge of everything, I wouldn't relax for a second.
I don't know if I would trust many people with anybody.
No, President Trump, they're not going to.
They might drop the case for now.
They'll be back.
They'll be back.
Trump comes out and offers some strong words against the James Comey case being the Letitia James, James Comey case being spiked on the technicality.
And it's just like, Again, who is advising the president?
Who is bringing him information?
How is it that a podcaster, a talk show host in Austin, Texas, a month ago warned President Trump this exact same thing was going to happen?
I literally sat right here and said they're going to spike this case.
They're going to get it on a technicality.
And then it happened.
And President Trump goes in front of the media and acts shocked.
He acts stunned.
And I'm just like, where does Trump have any good advisors around him?
Is anybody trying to be on the level with President Trump anymore?
It's concerning.
It's concerning to me.
I have a bad feeling Trump is getting set up.
And I'm not so sure that he's surrounding himself with fighters, quite frankly.
And the couple of fighters that he does have with him have either been sidelined or endured massive attacks.
Think Pete Hegzeth.
Think Tulsi Gabbard.
They're fighters.
They'll stand by President Trump.
They'll fight for him and his honor and to try to keep things good.
I'm not so sure about the rest of them.
Maybe Kash Patel.
Maybe Dan Bongino.
Pam Bondi.
Tell me: who does Pam Bondi put fear in?
Do you think any deep state criminals fear Pam Bondi?
Do you think James Comey fears Pam Bondi?
Do you think Letitia James fears Pam Bondi?
Do you think any deep state criminals fear Pam Bondi?
Anybody?
Do you think Lindsey Halligan scares him?
Todd Blanche, any of these people?
Do you think the deep state is running scared knowing that Pam Bondi's in charge of the Department of Justice?
Or do you think they're laughing?
Do you think they're laughing?
Like, what's Eddie Murphy's brother's name when he does the skit with Dave Chappelle?
And they're playing basketball and he's Prince and he comes in to play basketball in his ridiculous outfit and they all start laughing.
That's like Pam Bondi.
The only difference is Pam Bondi isn't slam dunking and calling game Biach.
It's getting called on her.
I'm just concerned.
You have these headlines in the news today.
Roger Stone warns the CIA is plotting a coup on Trump.
I think that has a lot to do with some squabbling.
There's some inner party squabbling as to whether or not the CIA can be trusted right now.
And I've heard it both ways.
Apparently, President Trump's days are shorter now.
Well, yeah, I mean, he's almost 80 years old.
He did take a nap in the middle of a press conference the other day, still working harder than anybody else.
Mike Johnson does this long-form interview with Katie Miller, Stephen Miller's wife.
And it's all this like glitz and glamour, you know, American people in a new way, in a different way.
And then he's in there and he's talking about how hard it is and how, oh, it's chaos all the time.
And it's just like, oh, okay.
You see, and you know what?
If you don't want to say MAGA's dead, fine, whatever.
But this is what you call MAGA on life support.
This is what you call zombie land, folks.
And the message was clear after the first administration.
The message was clear after they stole the election and Mike Pence ran away like a coward that, okay, Trump needs to put fighters in there.
Trump needs to have fighters in there for his second administration.
And we got some guys in there that we thought, okay, yeah, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino.
You would have said that heading into the election, that that's what you'd get at the FBI.
You'd be pretty excited.
So I don't know what's going on with that.
And I can't help but think about Bongino and his career after the FBI.
And I sit here, I watch Bongino kind of endure losing popularity.
I watch Bongino endure a lot of the incoming hits that he's getting from a community that once supported him.
And I see that I don't necessarily feel bad for him.
I mean, I suppose I sympathize at a human level, but I see that and I'm like, okay, Dan.
So now, Dan, you can have your revenge.
Now, Dan, you can have the final say.
But I don't know how Dan Bongino goes back to his audience with no deep state arrests.
I just don't know.
And the only angle I can figure is, and I suppose it would be legitimate, the only angle I can figure is Bongino goes back to his audience and says, all right, I looked behind the curtain.
I saw how the sausage is made.
And, you know, here's the deal.
Here's why it's so corrupt.
Here's why we couldn't do anything and maybe lays it all out like that.
I don't know if people would accept it, but that's really the only thing I could see happening.
I don't know how he goes back on his podcast and presents himself the way he did before he became the FBI deputy director.
It just won't sell.
People won't buy it.
So I'm watching it.
I'm thinking, okay, well, Bongino, you can get the final say here.
You can determine your fate.
You can determine your legacy.
And then you can rub it in everybody's face.
I'll come out against Bongino and I'll say, hey, Dan, you literally wrote the book on Spygate on Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
You wrote the book on that.
Now you're the FBI deputy director.
Now you have the power to actually do something about it.
So why don't you do it, Dan?
So it's like, I could sit here and I could attack Dan Bongino in the hopes, and this would be my hope, in the hope that I would anger him, that he would just, he would arrest these people just to spite me.
Now, I didn't have a relationship with Dan Bongino like a Kyle Serafin did.
It's like you look at Kyle Serafin, who's been one of the biggest critics of Dan Bongino.
They've been going back and forth pretty intense between the two of them.
And I'm like, all right, Dan, arrest the deep state criminals just to spite Kyle Serafin, just to get out of the FBI and say, ha ha, Kyle, and just rub his nose in it.
And I bet you Kyle would be okay with that.
He'd probably celebrate it.
And that's the whole point.
It's like that's where we're at now.
It's like part of me feels like the whole role that original MAGA has to play now, the whole role that the people that have been with Trump since 2015 have to play now.
It's like we almost have to annoy this new Trump cult.
Have to annoy this new MAGA cult to such a degree that they finally decide to do something just to spite us.
Just so they can turn around and say, ha ha, see, we told you so.
Of course, we'll be sitting here being, we'll be sitting here saying, yeah, you told us so.
You told, you guys told us there needed to be deep state arrests.
Yeah, that's you guys.
Yep.
You guys told us about how they illegally spied on Trump and needed to be arrested.
Yep, that's all you.
I don't even care.
They can take all the credit for the stuff we've been fighting for for 10 years.
I don't even care.
I just want the results.
I don't give a damn who takes a victory lap.
I don't give a damn who spikes the ball in the end zone.
I just want to get the damn touchdown and win the damn game.
So it's almost like we have to play this role now of this, this constant pest, this constant thorn in their side, this constant fly in their ear.
And it's like, okay, you want to shut us up?
Drain the swamp.
You want to shut us up?
Get the deep state arrests.
You want to shut us up?
Go all the way with Doge.
Forensic audits.
You want to shut us up?
Stop all the foreign wars.
Stop all the foreign aid.
You want to shut us up?
You're sick of hearing about us?
That's how you do it.
And then take your victory lap and then rub it in our face.
Oh, no.
Like, oh, ha ha.
What do they call us?
The panicins?
They got all kinds of names for us.
We'll take panicing.
We'll own panicing.
It's like, yeah, the whole country is totally corrupt.
Panican?
What are you?
A panican?
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
The country is just like collapsing totally.
Going into an AI surveillance state, you know, total control of foreign policy by foreign influencers and foreign lobbyists.
But how?
A panicing?
Stupid panican.
Don't you want to wave the pom-poms?
Don't you want to dance in the burning building, stupid panican?
So, hey, guys, go ahead.
Here, here.
Take the ball, run it into the end zone and spike it and take your victory lap.
But you're going to have to get deep state arrests.
You're going to have to get 10 million deportations.
You're going to have to go all the way with Doge and get forensic audits and arrests for all the waste, fraud, and abuse.
You're going to have to have massive reform of these federal bureaucracies.
You're going to have to cut the foreign aid and end the foreign wars.
So when you guys are ready to do that, go ahead.
And then you guys can claim that you did that.
And that's your victory.
And that was your policy.
And that's why you guys supported Trump.
And you can rub our face in it and say, ha ha, stupid panicins, we told you so.
And I'll say, great.
Spike the ball in the end zone.
Awesome.
You guys did it.
Yep.
Because I just want it to get done.
So do it.
Will you guys just do it?
Just demand Trump do what we wanted him to do in the first administration.
And then you guys can take the victory.
You guys can have the victory lap.
You guys can wave the trophy over your heads.
I don't even care.
I just want to win.
We just want to see it happen.
That's all.
That's where we're coming from.
And if it's not going to be Trump, then fine.
And that's where a lot of people are at now.
They're just convinced, okay, Trump is not going to be that guy.
Trump is not going to be the change agent.
And when you listen to Mike Johnson's interview, it sounds like he's kind of accepted that, okay, this is how you have to play politics.
This is how you have to act pragmatically.
And I think the exact word was that, I think the exact phrase from Speaker Johnson was, he wants to fix the system, not break it.
I might have that quote a little off from the Katie Miller interview, but that's about 90% accurate if it's not 100.
He said, Trump wants to fix the system, not break it.
Well, I guess that's where we differentiate, isn't it?
I want to break the system.
I believe this system is corrupt at its core.
I believe there's no salvaging this system anymore.
I believe it needs to be broken.
That's, in fact, what we voted for: to break this corrupt system.
We wanted Trump to go in there and smash it with Thor's hammer.
So you hear Johnson say Trump wants to fix things, not break them.
Well, then I guess that's why we're having such a problem because some things can't be fixed.
Some things are broken beyond repair.
Some things are totaled when it comes to the damage done.
But I guess it takes time to reach that conclusion.
I guess for some people, they have to do the analysis and wait and decide: is it really beyond repair?
Is it really totaled?
Well, we've already done the analysis.
And we're already here to tell you: yeah, it's broken.
It's totaled.
It's beyond repair.
And the FBI director actually agrees with us or used to.
The FBI deputy director agreed with us, or at least he used to.
I think President Trump at one point thought he agreed with us.
I don't know if he does or doesn't anymore.
So I guess we don't want peace in the Middle East.
I guess we don't want peace with Russia and Ukraine because, God forbid, Steve Witkoff actually tried to do it.
But if he doesn't do it the way you want it done, if he doesn't do it the way the swamp does it, if he doesn't do it the way that benefits the deep state, then we don't want it.
And we don't like it.
So that's good.
So at least you're finally taking the mask off.
You guys are pro-war.
You are the neocon establishment, whether you realize it or not.
You are the corrupt establishment.
You're now fighting for the corrupt establishment.
And this is why you're so confused as to why you don't see eye to eye with us because you just don't get it.
By the way, it's just been announced that they're going to send an additional 500 troops to D.C. What a sad state of affairs.
What a sad, sad state of affairs.
And the scenes in D.C., I mean, you can only imagine with all the flashing lights and law enforcement vehicles.
And if you thought D.C. was a police state already, looks like that effort is going to double.
Now, this was just a couple blocks from the White House.
Not sure if that has any significance to this story, but it was just a couple blocks from the White House.
All we have right now is that the D.C. mayor has just had a press conference and said that the suspect did intentionally target the National Guard troops, that that was done intentionally.
Well, I'm not sure there was any doubt about that, but I guess they have some information now that confirms that that is the case.
All right, we're going to take the first hour break here.
And I'm going to come back and take some phone calls.
I have a stack of news.
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We may get into the news, but I'm going to Open phone lines.
Get your take on all of this.
We haven't barely taken any calls this week.
I think maybe we did calls.
Did we do any calls this week?
It's a short week.
It is the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, so it kind of feels like an advanced Friday.
And we're all going to have some good times with good food and family and friends coming up here shortly.
Plus, I've got, you know, I've got family in town.
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So I'm a little distracted myself.
So, you know, getting into the news is kind of heavy.
Getting into the news is a little heavy.
And when the spirit is light in your house and you got family and food around, you know, sometimes you try to avoid the heavy.
But maybe we'll get into that.
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Wow.
Absolute filth.
Well.
Navigating between the sane and insane, it's the Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
Yeah, we got some insane today.
First, first, the insane started with the attacks on Steve Witcoff.
That was the first insane of the day.
Now you have Democrats and liberals and leftists and progressives blaming the shooting on Donald Trump.
Oh, my God, they're sick.
Oh, they're sick every once in a while.
Because for the most part, we ignore the left right now.
They're worthless.
They have no power.
They're flailing around like a carp out of water.
But every once in a while, they take the opportunity to remind you what absolute scum and filth that they are.
Blaming this shooting on Donald Trump.
Saying it's Trump's fault.
He played with their lives.
It's Trump fault.
He put them there.
You know, you guys are just sick.
Who do you blame for all the mass shootings in Democrat cities?
Who do you blame for Democrat cities having the highest homicide rate?
Do you blame your Democrat policies?
Do you blame your Democrat leaders?
No, you don't, do you?
Oh, but you want to blame Trump for this, huh?
You're just scum.
You're just absolute filth.
And I don't even think you mean it.
I think that you're just filling a void.
You guys have felt left out.
The Democrat scum, the filth of the left.
You guys have been ignored for months now.
So you're feeling left out.
You're feeling lonely.
So you want some attention.
So you're just going to go out and just be absolute scumbags.
That's all it is.
You guys don't even mean it.
You just want to remind everybody out there that you still exist and you're still the scum of this planet.
You're still the scum of this country.
Not so subtle reminder, huh?
A not so subtle reminder, we'll say.
Okay, let's do it, guys.
Let's do it.
Phone lines are open.
747-200-5560.
Number is on the screen.
747-200-5560.
We'll take calls.
We'll take calls mostly this hour.
We'll see if I want to get into the news.
I just don't know if I can on this Thanksgiving Wednesday, to be honest.
It's already been a heavy enough day.
But we'll consider it.
We'll consider it all.
All right.
First caller of the day.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey, my name is Bill from Iowa.
All right, Bill.
Are you on speaker?
Is there any way we can get you off that?
You're a little, you're coming in a little loud.
There we go.
Sorry about that.
Thank you, Bill.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you, Bill.
No problem.
You bet.
You bet.
Well, first of all, I want to say congratulations on your new show.
I haven't spoken to you since you were in the war room.
I think the last time I spoke to you, you actually cut me off and hung up because I said some violent stuff towards Bill Gates.
But anyways, besides that story.
Well, no, I'm going to blame.
No, I'm going to blame the crew for that.
I wasn't in control.
They shut you down, not me.
All right.
But now, if you do get shut down, it is me today.
There's nobody for me to blame.
I can't blame anybody today.
I hear you.
I hear you.
No, I just think I just want to call in saying I think you're doing a great job.
And as far as what's really going on, man, you know, I've almost pretty much given up on Trump, too.
You know, he could still change courses, but the only way he's going to be able to do that is get rid of Blondie, Cash Catel, Dan Bagino, half of this people that got around him and stuff like that.
Because, you know, he needs to put America first.
And, you know, I mean, we are like one election away, and that's coming to midterms.
If we don't pull it together, man, we're done as a country.
And then pretty much Euro and you and everybody else that's in this country that's, I don't know what you want to call it, right-winger, constitutionalist, whatever.
We're all screwed.
We're all going to be dead, you know, pretty much.
You know, it's funny that you say that.
I had this thought today, and I don't know if it was the shooting of the National Guardsmen that kind of sent me on this path or if it was the case against Trump that they claim that they've dropped in the Georgia election case, which I don't believe for a second.
They might have.
I don't mean to interrupt you.
I don't mean to interrupt you, but I'm going to hang up.
All right.
Congratulations.
I got to go because I don't want to get pulled over.
All right, Bill.
All right.
Bye.
Thanks, Bill.
Happy Thanksgiving.
And it's like, because I kind of agree with what Bill is saying, at least the concept, the direction is that I do wonder what happens if the Democrats get back in power.
And I can't help but think mass arrests, censorship, I don't know, whatever else that they're known for, getting worse.
And, you know, you hear people talk about a civil war, but you could make the argument, you could make a pretty strong case that you're already there.
Leftists are already killing people.
Leftists are already censoring and prisoning their political opposition.
So you could argue that the Civil War has already started.
Now, it's not like we imagine it, like we saw in the first Civil War, you know, people lining up and just shooting at one another.
But there's signs.
Now, if you're the president or you're, let's say, on the right or a Republican and you sense that that is where the left is going to go next if they get back into power, what do you do?
Do you say, well, we want to at least try to maintain some decorum, try to maintain some normalcy in American politics?
Or do you say, if we don't get out in front of this now, the Democrats are going to take everything and they're going to arrest everybody.
And if you think that's the highest likelihood of happening, the highest chances of happening, what do you do?
Do you just let it happen?
Do you let them do it?
And that's why it's so frustrating.
It's like, okay, well, if you want to go after these Democrats for that video, I'm not going to stand in your way, but I am going to scratch my head and say that.
That's the one.
But if you're Trump and you've reached the conclusion that if you don't arrest the deep state, that they're going to come for you and your family when you leave office.
What is the right thing to do?
What is the right preemptive thing to do in that situation?
I think it's a fair question.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
Hey, oh, it's Willie from San Diego.
Hey, love your show.
Hey, when it comes to Ukraine, we're not the mediators, we're the instigators.
No freedom to defend over there whatsoever with the neo-Nazis, biolabs, churches being closed, journalists killed.
They cancel elections.
Yeah.
No elections.
Hey, and Putin, Putin's been consistent from the very beginning what he wants.
You know, he went in with a strategic military operation, and that's what it was to demilitarize, did Nazify, and no NATO after encroaching, you know, the last 15 years moving eastward like they did.
You know what's so crazy about this?
Putin almost had Russia joining NATO.
Putin, Russia was going to join NATO in the 90s, and the deal was almost done.
And it's like the same thing that's happening with Witkoff now.
The deal was almost done, and the neocons and the warmongers stepped in, and the Europeans stepped in, and they caused the divide, and they kept the Cold War with Russia going, which is basically what it is.
So they went through the same gambit in the late 90s.
And it's like, I don't want to see this happen again.
Oh, absolutely.
And they should, why shouldn't they be a trading partner?
We heard when Tucker did his interview with Putin over there.
He had the little smile on his face, telling Tucker exactly what happened with Clinton.
You know, but after the 2014, you know, he gave plenty of warning.
He gave eight years warning, and he goes in there with that strategic military operation, finds 46 bioweapon labs and paperwork confiscated.
It's really simple.
It's been the same from the beginning.
Allow the Russian annexation of the eastern Ukraine and other areas that were voted on by those Russian-speaking people.
No NATO and no biolabs and no Nazis, and you're done.
Yeah.
Well, and not only that, you have these members of the Obama administration that are attacking Witkoff today.
And I'm like, who in the hell are you to attack Witkoff?
You guys were there when the first of the most recent, but the first incursion of Ukraine happened.
And when Russia took Crimea, that was in the Obama years.
That happened in the Obama years.
And you're going to sit here and point the finger at Witkoff, who's trying to stop it?
By the way, who was Obama's vice president?
Joe Biden.
When did the second invasion of Ukraine happen?
Under Joe Biden.
And so these same Democrats are going to sit here and point the finger at Witkov?
Are you kidding me?
And then the neocons are going to go along with it too?
What the hell is that?
Well, and what are we doing?
Offering peace deals based on what?
Ceasefires?
We know how that goes, man.
That's just a chance to reload, isn't it?
But again, I go back to let's talk bottom line.
What, what, where does Ukraine have any leverage at all right now?
They don't have any leverage.
And so it's like, oh, you know, Russia can't dictate the terms.
Okay, so then what?
So here's what's going to happen.
Either Russia is going to get what they want in a peace deal or they're going to bomb Kiev and kill a bunch of people.
What do you want?
There is no alternative here.
They're not going to cooperate with the NATO leadership.
They don't need to.
They're not going to cooperate with America outside of a peace deal.
They don't need to.
They might want to.
So it's just like, yeah, you're right.
Russia is going to get what it wants.
Just like if I put you in a headlock and you're short of breath and I've got you in a headlock and you're about to tap out, well, guess what?
I've got all the leverage, don't I?
And you're not going to tell me what to do when I'm choking you out.
And so that's what this is like.
This is like the people that are getting choked out are saying, how dare, like, how dare you, Putin?
You have no power over me, Vladimir.
It's like, okay, then die.
Well, he's had so much success coming over here in his green monkey suit and having Pelosi and everybody else bend a knee to him.
Do you waving their freaking flag?
Did you see the, I can't tell.
It's so weird.
I'm not saying it was cocaine, but did you see the video of the thing that comes out of his nose or something?
No, no.
Man, it's, I don't know.
It's like, it was, remember, it was the whole thing is so crazy.
Remember, you had Macron and Zelensky, and they're sitting down at some table and they like shuffle a bag.
It looks like a bag of cocaine, or I don't know, make people say it was a Kleenex.
I don't know.
The whole thing is weird.
They were suspicious about it.
So it was like, okay, people are already suspicious of Zelensky being a cokehead, whatever.
And then you have that video where like this chunk, it looks like a chunk of cocaine flies out of his nose, folks.
I don't know.
The whole thing is just crazy.
And then you have, and then you have Macron.
Macron has the Ukraine map upside down, and he's sitting there like, oh, we support Ukraine.
The map is upside down, you jackass.
The whole thing is just pathetic.
Well, and not to mention the grift and the 100 million that they've just discovered that's going to all the oligarchs and everything.
Hey, if they'd gotten all the money and put it to the use, they may have won the war.
Ah.
Ah, and that seems to be the one point of contention in this peace deal is that they don't want the audit of where the money went.
That's the one thing that Ukraine and NATO are not willing to give into, which is we want to find out where all of our money went.
They don't want us to know that.
They put it up for a vote, Owen, and all of the Democrats voted not to do any kind of a forensic audit.
That's right.
And that was Rand Paul's bill, by the way, who gets attacked by Donald Trump.
Clown world, isn't it?
Crazy.
Crazy.
Yeah, clown world.
Total clown world.
Take care, Owen.
Good talking to you.
So anyway, honk your nose and put your face paint on and go eat a big turkey leg, you know?
Have a nice big turkey leg.
Get some gravy on there.
Get some of that creamed corn.
Get some stuffing.
Because we're all just a bunch of turkeys.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
Hey, Owen.
It's Tay Tay from Florida.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Hey, thank you.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yes.
Well, you beat me to it.
I feel like I'm left out now.
I told, for the audience, I'm switching my blackout coffee from the pitch black espresso to the smooth finish because I found out light roasts have more caffeine in them.
And so I'm a big caffeine head here.
So I'm waiting for my smooth finish to arrive.
It's actually on me.
I forgot to order it.
So I'm glad you reminded me.
Thank you for that.
And also, coffee is a fruit.
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Oh, yes.
The coffee bean is a fruit.
Is that true?
I've never heard that before.
It is.
Okay, well, you know what?
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You know, get your fruits.
All righty.
Happy Thanksgiving, Owen.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you for the call.
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So I'm a little discombobulated, disoriented.
So I don't have my mug.
But the show mug that you see me drinking every day.
I was drinking it earlier today with Dr. Peter McCullough on Ask the Doctor.
It was a good show earlier today with Dr. McCullough.
You can also get the official mug of the show, blackoutcoffee.com slash Owen.
It's the official coffee of the Owen Report.
I thank all the coffee drinkers in the audience for making the switch and calling in and tell me, you tell me how much you love it.
And I appreciate those giving the instant coffee a try too, because the instant coffee is a game changer.
You know that.
You know the instant coffee is a game changer.
It's almost like it's so good.
You know, the true coffee snobs are never going to stop brewing pots of coffee because you're just never going to stop.
But some of us, like for me this morning, I woke up.
I was just instant coffee.
Just boom, just instant coffee.
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All right.
Back to the phones.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from?
Hey, my name's Lyndon from California.
All right, Lyndon.
What's on your mind?
Well, I'm a new viewer of your show, and I just want to know what you think about gender roles and what's going on in Dearborn, Michigan right now.
Gender roles?
Yes, sir.
Are these two separate questions, or are you trying to connect the two?
Yeah.
No, they're separate.
You know, I don't get into that.
I don't get into those culture stuff too much.
And that's because I'm more of a live and let live type of person.
Whatever works for you works for you.
Maybe it doesn't work for me, but if it works for you, fine.
So I try to, I kind of just don't really go into there.
But I think gender roles are probably, you know, they exist for a reason.
They're inherent and instinctual for a reason.
I think the attack on traditional gender roles is done intentionally to do harm to humanity and civilization.
So yeah, I'd say traditional gender roles are a net positive.
But you know what?
To each their own.
And you know what?
If it works for you and it improves everybody's lives around you, then, you know, who am I to judge?
Specifically, what did you mean with the situation in Dearborn, Michigan?
Well, you know, if you've been on X lately, there's a lot of videos of these Muslims blocking the roads.
And are those Muslims?
There were Muslims blocking the roads?
I think they're Arabs, but I think they are Muslims as well.
Okay, well, the only thing I saw was there was a group that was protesting Islam in Dearborn blocking the roads.
So I'm not sure what it is you're talking about.
I haven't seen that.
You know, Minnesota, Minnesota changed their flag to the Somali flag.
Okay, so that's an interesting one.
I don't like the fact that American politics are now becoming the Middle East.
I don't like that at all.
And now it's like Jews versus Muslims all the time.
And it's like, well, what about Americans?
What about Christians?
So it's like this weird thing that's happening.
I'm trying to look for an example here.
No, those are.
They're on horses or something like that.
Yeah, I see a bunch of liberals that were blocking the streets in Los Angeles, blocking traffic to the airport.
They should have been arrested.
The funders, the organizers of that should have been arrested, but Pam Bondi has no clue.
I think that we've had bad policy.
I think that we had bad foreign policy that displaced a bunch of Muslims in the Middle East into Europe and into the United States.
You could argue that that was by design.
So that's bad foreign policy that brings a bunch of people from the Middle East to America that have no intention of assimilating.
They don't come here because they want to be Americans.
They come here because their homeland has fallen apart or has been torn apart by war, which is likely a result of bad U.S. foreign policy.
And then our policy on immigration has also been a disaster.
Our policy on immigration has been way too open.
We've had way too much of a generous welfare state for refugees, asylum seekers, all of this stuff without any demands that you're going to come here and you're going to work, you're going to provide to our economy, our civilization, and that you intend to assimilate because you want to be an American.
So it's just, I look at it as bad policy.
I look at it as a result of bad policy, but now because so much of our politics and our culture is just embedded into this Middle East chaos, now that's what you're going to hear about.
So it's really, the whole thing is really unfortunate, actually.
Yeah.
I got one more question, too.
And listen, feel free not to answer it.
He's a controversial guy, but what do you think about Nick Fuentes?
I don't have any problem with Nick.
I mean, yeah, you can say anybody's controversial.
This is what I say, because I get asked this question a lot.
And actually, let me ask you a question, too, as a follow-up.
Nick says things that I would never say, but guess what?
So do plenty of other people.
Okay.
And so Nick can do whatever he wants as a broadcaster.
I'm not here to be his daddy.
And it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter if I wanted to scold Nick for what he says anyway.
So, no, I don't really, it doesn't make any difference to me what Nick Fuentes does or doesn't do.
You know why?
Because, and this is my big rub with the people that complain about Nick Fuentes.
And I've been saying this a lot on X lately.
The only reason why you're complaining about Nick Fuentes is because you either are scared of what he's saying or you can't defeat him in a debate.
But more importantly, more importantly than that, the only reason why people are talking about Nick Fuentes or the only reason why it's like some sort of a weird, like now bouncing ball in the political discussion is because there are no deep state arrests.
And if you have a bigger problem with a 20, I don't know how old Nick is, 23 or 24.
If you have a bigger problem with a 24-year-old podcaster than you do the deep state and the criminals in Washington, D.C. and the criminals in Congress and the criminals in the federal bureaucracies, if you have a bigger issue with Nick Fuentes than any of those people, if you spend more time attacking Nick Fuentes than any of those people, then you're part of the problem.
Then you are part of the problem.
And all I'll say is I've had, I don't know, a dozen experiences with Nick, meeting him, events, political events in studios, whatever.
Never had any negative, nothing.
I've never had anything negative from Nick.
Okay, so I can agree with everything he says.
I can disagree with everything he says.
It really doesn't matter.
I've never had any negative experiences with Nick.
He's always been kind to me.
We've had disagreements before.
We've had agreements before.
To me, it doesn't matter.
He's another broadcaster.
Why do you care so much?
It shows your weakness if you care so much.
And if you spend more time attacking Fuentes than you do the deep state, then you're part of the problem.
All right, now let me ask you a question.
You said you just started listening to this show.
Yeah, I'm a new listener, yeah.
When did you find it or how did you find it?
Oh, man.
I think when you had that interview with Nick back on Alex's show, I think I saw a clip on it on X and I was like, oh, who's this guy?
I found out it's like, oh, it's Owen Shroyer.
You know, he was at J6 and, you know, he's like one of the guys.
You mean the one where we got disrupted 10 times?
Yeah, dude.
I know I saw your stream on that.
You were like, this is why I left Alex Jones Network and all that stuff.
I was like, yeah, that's understandable.
I haven't had to deal with that yet.
I don't know.
I might have had some PTSD here.
I'm in my home studio.
My studio is actually closed today because I don't want to deal with the noise of people shuffling around in my house.
So my studio is actually closed today.
There might have been a week where I was kind of having PTSD.
I was like staring at the door in my studio, like, is somebody going to bust through that door?
Is somebody going to bust through that door and take over my broadcast and tell me what to do here?
Is it going to happen?
I don't know.
So I think we're finally over that.
Well, I'm glad you found the show.
I'm glad that you are taking time and I hope that it's worth your time.
And we're not going anywhere.
We're going to be here every day, 3 to 6 p.m. weekdays.
We're glad to have you in the audience.
Thanks, sir.
It's nice talking to you.
All right.
I love that.
By the way, you know, it's been interesting.
I don't really get too much into this, but maybe you do care.
I mean, you're part of the show if you listen.
If you listen to the show, if you've supported me over the years, you're part of the show.
I count you as part of the show.
That's kind of how I view this as a community, as a consumer of talk radio myself.
That's how I view it.
I guess I could give a little update.
You know, guys, we're doing pretty good, actually.
We're doing pretty good.
And, you know, anytime you leave a network, you're obviously taking a big hit.
Most of the time, you're taking a big hit as far as the bottom line is concerned with viewership or with income.
And, you know, I don't know, it'll be tough to get a read as far as the audience is concerned of whether or not I'm reaching the same audience that I had at InfoWars.
You know, as far as as far as being able to make money here, as long as I can make enough money to live happily, then, you know, I'm not going to complain.
I'm not in this to get rich.
That's not to say that you're bad if you do get rich in broadcasting.
That's fine with me.
I have no problem with that.
The more money I bring in here, the more we're just going to expand the operations.
So, I mean, I haven't even paid myself.
I paid, I have two people that work for me that I've paid.
I've been paying two people for a couple of months now.
I've never even paid myself.
Now, I'm planning to start paying myself next year.
But so that's what it is.
If this show continues to grow, and we're doing pretty well, I think.
We're doing pretty well.
Our new YouTube channel has over 15,000 subscribers now.
We're getting about 10,000 per day there.
We're getting about 20,000 per day on Rumble in the archives.
X numbers are tough.
X numbers are a little trickier, but it looks like we're getting about 30,000 a day on X as well.
And on the audio uploads to iTunes, iHeartRadio, and Spotify, we have had 30,000 downloads of the show.
So that's, I mean, this is basically your two-month marker today, really.
So those are the numbers after two months.
So I really appreciate everybody who's stuck with me through this.
I really appreciate everybody who tunes in every day who wants to be a part of this and growing this operation.
It really means a lot.
I put a lot into this broadcast to try to try to rejuvenate something that's lost, I think, in political talk radio, which is a classical broadcast, a more traditional style of delivery and news talk that has kind of gotten lost in the new internet age.
So I'm trying to kind of rejuvenate that.
That's why I take calls.
We're also implementing, obviously, the multimedia aspect.
But it's great to hear that there's new people.
It's great to hear.
That means a lot that new people are tuning in.
New people are finding the show and sticking around.
So I really appreciate that.
I really do.
And folks, you know, there's different ways I can go about this.
And I just figured, since I want to do more of a traditional style broadcast here, that bringing on sponsors and doing the live reads was the best way to do it.
I don't air commercials.
Quite frankly, I probably should, because really I'm on air three hours a day, and I don't even take a minute to go take a leak, right?
So, I mean, really, I probably should have commercial breaks and maybe we might add something like a news update or something next year, depending on where we're at as far as the expansion is concerned.
But I just figured it's best to just do three to four live reads a show in a three-hour show.
So you're getting three hours.
I don't take any breaks.
You get, when it's all said and done, maybe five minutes from the sponsors to hear from our sponsors.
And if you support the sponsors, then they stick around and that's what funds the show.
If you support the sponsors, word gets out.
Hey, you know, you sponsor this show.
You get good business.
More sponsors come in.
We can expand.
So that's the business model that I've kind of tried to turn into a success here.
And I'd say after two months, we've been doing good.
So really grateful for you.
I guess that's the theme of the day.
It's Thanksgiving.
So I thank you.
I thank everybody in the audience for supporting this show, tuning in, sharing it with friends and family, supporting the sponsors, making sure that we can have a winning formula here.
And so I'm grateful for you, and I appreciate that.
And to the new listeners who are just finding this show, never heard of me before, didn't see me on InfoWars, any of that.
It's nice to have you here.
And I hope you find value in this transmission.
That's what we try to do here three hours a day.
All right.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Owl Killer calling from Virginia.
All right, Owl Killer.
You've been around.
You've been around the block.
How you doing?
Pretty good, bro.
So here's a couple of things I wanted to talk about.
Did you, well, first off, go with the advertisers.
That's how everybody built, especially if the old AM radio, I mean, you're one of your heroes, Michael Savage, who I was also disappointed with in his recent videos.
That's how he built his stardom.
So there's nothing wrong with it.
Especially when it comes to that, that was actually something I was going to call in about.
First off, the people on the right that have the money.
You see how, like a show like CNN or UH, or a channel like CNN or ABC, they don't have viewers, but their hosts are paid astronomically.
They're, they're crazy.
Isn't that amazing?
It's, it's I, it.
You know.
It only makes sense if the point is to subsidize your side, which the left does.
Is it like we look at the, the billionaires on the right?
You don't think that they could pay a radio, they couldn't contribute.
Hey, here's a hundred thousand dollars a year that's, that's all right, you know, just so that you can live comfortably and then whatever else you make, that that's on you.
But we're gonna, we're gonna fund you and keep you, keep you going.
The left are paying these people 10, 10 million dollars to sit up there and talk with 20 000 viewers like, or 200 000 viewers like.
Nobody's watching these people, yet they're making uh, they're making ten million dollars.
It's when I, when I see the salaries of some of these people, it just blows my mind.
But on the right, nobody wants to put their money with their where their mouth is and it, that's that is going to be if something, if we end up, if we end up collapsing.
And, if you know, whatever comes out of it, that that is going to be the reason why.
Because the people did not want to bet on the, the people did not want to bet on humanity, they did not want to bet on their side.
And what?
What they you know what they preach and then what they support is a total different thing.
Um, you know, I I don't know how much you pay attention to your old uh employer, but I, I still listen to him every day.
I still love him.
Um, he had, he had that.
I forget what the person's name is, that big uh pollster that Uh, Trump relies on.
You know the name, Mark Mitchell from RASH Medicine.
Yep, so they were talking about the right.
More than half of the people are content with an Ai dictatorship.
And you remember um, the World Economic Forum said there's going to be no need for elections where Ai is going to be able to tell you who you're going to vote for anywhere.
They said this about during covet.
You remember that vaguely.
That is what.
That is what is going to happen.
That is what I see happening, because people it's, it's almost like they part of that.
Um, it wasn't, it wasn't.
Um, it wasn't that the event 201 it, what?
What's the broader?
What's the broader uh umbrella term that all those uh, all those uh war games are under?
It's the rock it's, it's one of the Rockefeller um, it's.
Are you talking about the World Economic Forum?
So you, you know, event event 201 with the Melinda BILL AND Melinda Gates Foundation World uh, World Economic Forum, JOHN Hopkins University, but that's one war game under like a huge umbrella of war games.
I forget, but part of part of their war games.
What in one of them, um and RFK JR references it um, is that during a pan, during a pandemic the, the populace around the world are going to lose their faith in their elected officials and they're not getting it through the the, they're not getting it through a pandemic, but what they're getting it from is from all these situations, of all these problems that are arising around the world, whether it's the wars, whether it's the immigration, whether it's the inflation.
And I, I don't.
I I see that, I see the, This high-tech AI system is going to come in, whether it's on the right or on the left.
Well, I go back to what you said.
You said, uh, you so Mark Mitchell is saying that people on the right support an AI surveillance system between 20 and so 20 and 30, 20 and 30 year olds on the right, more between 40 and 50 percent of them will support a and it's Christians too.
That's the crazy thing.
Um, would support a right, which support an AI dictatorship.
Not necessarily.
I wonder, I wonder, and this is where I get a little conspiratorial in my thought process, but I wonder if that would be the case if Trump wasn't the president.
I feel like a lot of people on the right that would normally be distrusting of these institutions or these types of advancements in technology, I think that they would be a lot more skeptical or distrusting.
But because Trump is in there, they kind of let their guard down a little bit.
I actually think it's the opposite.
I think it's that they're losing faith in the system altogether and they don't see a future.
Okay, so like replace the broken system with the AI.
Yes, yes.
And Nick, Nick Fuentes was on, um, Nick Fuentes gave uh again, like I don't agree with everything the kid says, but I, he got his pulse on something.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like he, he's, he's somehow able to channel the frustrations.
And this goes back, I don't know if you heard in the first hour, but I was, uh, I was commenting on this.
And again, it's like people want to, people want to cherry pick.
And this is, this is, this is what happens.
All right.
When you do, I don't know how long Nick's show is every day.
How long is Nick's show?
Is it an hour, two hours, three hours a night?
Do you know?
I don't, I don't watch it.
I catch up on clips of it.
Okay.
Well, here's exactly.
Exactly.
So here's what happens.
Nick does his show every night, probably multiple hours every night.
And most people, you know, Nick has his following.
He has his fan base.
They tune in every night.
They know what he says.
But then most people don't.
They just see the clips.
So what they do is, and you've especially been seeing this lately on X, and it happens to me too, is they'll take a clip and they'll share it.
And now they'll take clips when Nick's like 18 years old.
He looks like, you know, he can barely even grow a, you know, a whisker.
And they share this stuff.
They're like, oh, Nick said this.
Nick said, so they'll take, they'll take, here's 100% of, here's 100%.
Here's 100% of what Nick Fuentes says.
And then they're going to take, they're going to find the 0.01% of the worst things he's ever said on air.
And then they're going to use that to kind of create this public perception of Nick.
So you ignore 99% of what he says and you focus on the 1%.
So that's done intentionally.
That's done intentionally to try to hurt Nick and what he stands for.
Now, granted, he's a younger man.
I don't think he came up in a broadcasting career.
So he's just saying what he wants to say.
He's, you know, call him a shock shock, whatever.
He might not even be thinking about implications of what he's saying on air when he's 18, 19 years old that people are trying to use against him now.
So I'm not, I don't know, I don't know what clip you're talking about now, but I'm just saying this is this is what they do.
This is how they do character assassination.
No, this is actually, I don't, I don't necessarily, what I'm going to say is like, I, I think he's got his, I think he's got his, I think this is going to be a winning message.
And I'm not kidding about this.
And it's, it's scary, but he's saying that the right and the left need to unite and the left is going to need to give up on immigration.
And he's calling for the end of the, he's like, this is not a free market.
The right's going to have to give up this libertarian free market.
And I'm telling you, I see what capitalism is going to end up getting blamed for whatever comes out of everything.
And we're going to end up with, you're going to end up in a system where the AI is deciding who gets what.
And, you know, on one scale, right?
So we understand that the healthcare system is broken.
AI could comb through all the waste that goes into medical procedures.
Like I'm retired from the military.
I had a shoulder surgery before I came into the military.
My insurance paid $14,000 for it.
I had the same shoulder surgery on the other shoulder.
10 years later by the same doctor because we didn't have a hospital at the place that I was stationed.
I was back in my home state of New Jersey.
The military 10 years later paid $7,500 for the surgery.
That just itself is telling you that there is so much.
And I was looking at what they were charging me for band-aids and for crazy what they were charging my insurance company.
And that's something that that is something that AI could do is like, there are benefits to it where it could comb through, hey, this is waste.
We'll get rid of this.
So there are benefits to it.
Like I do see that AI could do it.
Just like how Doge was able to pick up on all the waste fraud and abuse that was going on in the government.
But I do see where people are like, hey, we've done this democracy thing for 250 years.
Let's give the AI a shot.
And I don't think people are taking it serious enough.
And how you were saying that maybe the right is, or the people that were polled were saying, hey, it's because Trump's in office.
I don't think it matters who's in office.
Whoever is seen as the victor at the end of whatever comes out is going to be in charge of that system.
That's why you saw Zuckerberg and Bezos and Sam Altman all at the White House when for years they were always with the left.
It's almost like they have a system that's going to emerge no matter who is in office.
And it's their show.
It's basically their show.
Well, I agree.
I've been saying that for some months now, maybe presented a little differently.
But yeah, I agree.
And in fact, I forget, there was some hot contested debate on social media a couple of weeks ago.
And I sat back later that night and I did a kind of a very somber, sober video.
And I said, hey, guys, while we're all sitting here talking about this, the real story is the AI surveillance grid.
That's the real story.
And if we don't focus on that and to try and whenever that becomes permanent, however you want to phrase it, we're in the time of deciding what that's going to look like right now, but we're not talking about it.
So other people are going to decide what that looks like, unfortunately.
But you started it, you said that Nick has the pulse of something.
Yeah, it's this.
And I see Nick and Tucker are having an issue right now.
I don't fully understand it.
I guess Tucker took a pot shot at Nick recently.
Whatever.
Beefs happen in media.
Maybe they can figure it out.
But I opened the show and I showed some social media posts.
And it just shows that they're attacking Tucker Carlson today after a Sean Ryan interview.
And they say, what is Tucker's endgame?
Or what is Trucker trying to do?
And it's just like, no, that's what it is.
So it's like, they're so confused.
How can Nick come out here and say things that are just blatantly, in their eyes, blatantly racist, blatantly misogynist, blatantly anti-Semitic, whatever these things?
Nick can defend it, whether that's true or not.
I'm just, they're so stunned that that's how they perceive it.
And then how is it that he's so popular, right?
How is it that somebody that is so detestable can be so popular and so influential?
And it's because they don't get it.
These neocons, these establishment right-wingers, they can't even comprehend America first.
They can't even comprehend it.
They can't even comprehend American nationalism.
They just, they can't even comprehend it.
I don't know what it is.
It's like a spell.
It's like witchcraft.
It's like, what is the name of that old movie?
Like star something.
Oh, my gosh.
I can't believe I forgot the name of this movie.
Old movie about a falling star.
It's a woman, whatever.
Some fairy tale adventure.
And a witch casts a spell is driving me crazy.
I can't think of this movie.
It's a falling star or something.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm going crazy now.
But in the movie, a witch casts a spell and she casts a spell and she says, you cannot see this.
You cannot see the star.
You cannot see the falling star.
And she casts a spell on her.
And so then she's standing right in front of the star and she can't see it.
It's right there in front of her face.
She can't see it.
She can't feel it.
She doesn't know it's there.
That's like the establishment right.
That's like this neocon establishment right.
They literally cannot comprehend America first.
They can't see it.
They can't touch it.
They can't comprehend American nationalism.
It's like there's some spell that has broken their mind.
They're under some sort of a weird, like black magic witchcraft or something.
And they literally cannot even comprehend America first.
They cannot comprehend it.
They cannot understand it.
They can't see it.
They can't comprehend American nationalism.
And so they're flailing around in confusion.
Like, why is Tucker popular?
Or why is Candace popular?
Or why is Fuentes popular?
And it's like, you guys don't get it.
It's not about the individual.
Yes, maybe people like their broadcast.
Maybe people like them or they think they're funny or they think they're informative or whatever.
It's about American nationalism.
It's about America first.
That's what it is about.
And until you can recognize that and see it for what it is, you'll never understand.
You'll never understand it.
You'll never understand Marjorie Taylor Greene.
You'll never understand Nick Fuene.
You'll never understand Tucker Carlson.
You'll never understand this movement that you can't stop because you just, you can't see it.
You can't recognize it.
For whatever reason, there's like you're brainwashed.
You're under mind control.
You're under a spell.
You're mentally ill.
You're mentally impaired.
They cannot comprehend America first.
It is totally incomprehensible to them.
They can't see it.
They can't recognize it.
It's like an abarition.
And so that was when I saw the commentary on Tucker after the Sean Ryan interview, it hit me.
I'm like, wow, they really don't get it.
They just really do not get it.
It doesn't even exist to them.
I don't know.
I don't know how else to explain or to rationalize it.
But that's what I see going on.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
My name is Sean, the mailman from Rhode Island.
All right, John, go ahead.
No, it's Sean.
Oh, okay, Sean.
Sorry, go ahead.
No problem, man.
I'm the guy that sent you the Matt Christopher books while you were in prison.
Yeah, they stole those books from me, but I appreciate that.
Yeah, you're the man.
I just want to say happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Thank you.
Happy Thanksgiving to you.
I appreciate that, man.
I just wanted to put something on your radar.
I don't know if you saw this or not.
I think Fox broke it last night.
I'm in Rhode Island.
There's a guy that's running for mayor of Providence in next year's election.
He's a convicted pedophile, pretty much a child rapist.
Have you seen that, Michael English?
No.
Yeah, I think last name Fox, Laura, whatever her name angle broke the news.
I was trying to get through earlier last week, but I couldn't get through.
But the guy's literally a pedophile sex offender that went to jail, got out, and then he reoffended to the same person.
And now he's running for governor of Providence now.
All right, I've got the Providence Journal pulled up here.
Let me put this on the screen.
Michael English says child molestation conviction shouldn't hinder his mayoral run.
And that was from November 18th in the Providence Journal.
Key points from the story: English was convicted of child molestation in 1998 for his relationship with a 13-year-old girl, served two separate prison sentences.
He is not on the Rhode Island sex offender registry after a court ruled he only needed to register with local police for 10 years.
English defends his candidacy by citing his personal growth, education, and dissatisfaction with the other candidates.
Let's see here.
It doesn't say, I'm sure it does.
Is he a Republican?
Is he a Democrat?
I'm not 100%.
I'm pretty sure he's a Democrat, but if you look at the Philippine-Yes, he's a Democrat.
You're right.
He's a Democrat.
He's a different website.
Yeah, he's a Democrat.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
He is a Democrat.
Yeah, that figures, Rhode Island Democrat shithole.
But anyway, if you look at his website, he says that he wants to stand up for kids, this, that, and the other.
But how is this even possible?
I'll tell you how right now.
Let me read from this story.
English was convicted of child molestation in 1998 and initially served 15 months in prison.
A decade after his release, he served another 19 months when he was charged with violating a no-contact order relating to the victim.
Now, I'd have to look more into the victim to maybe get a better understanding of this, but this is because the Department of Justice and the Bureau of Prisons go light on child molesters.
Everybody in the system knows it.
I don't know why.
15 months.
If English would have been caught selling a pound of weed, he would have gotten 15 years.
But because, oh, all he did was molest a child, he only gets 15 months.
So there's your problem.
The justice system treats child molesters and child rapists and kitty diddlers with very light touch.
They take care of them, they protect them, they give them light sentences.
I have no idea why, but that's the answer to your question: how this is going on.
Because the Justice Department treats child molesters with kid gloves, no pun intended.
And I guarantee you this: if you follow up this in a year, he might win.
You saw Madam Madami win in New York, and I'm not saying they're relatable, but at the same time, Madami should not have won the mayor of New York.
And this guy here, who knows what's going to happen, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.
I wouldn't be surprised either, actually.
And another thing is my son's mother that I haven't been with in about 20 years.
She's 42, 43 years old.
Now she has the ambition to become a lawyer in New York State.
She has no qualifications.
She can barely speak in public.
And I'm going to do some research and digging around, but I'm pretty sure she's being coaxed and funded by Soros and all those bad guys.
I am not going to get involved in your failed relationships, brother.
Hey, that's okay, man.
I can appreciate it.
I'm going to pass on that.
Yeah, man.
25 years we haven't been together.
My son's almost 22, super successful, super chef.
But out of nowhere, this woman that could barely speak in public, that was so scared to even go to the grocery store is now going to become a lawyer in New York.
I'm not touching that.
I'm not.
Female problems.
You know what?
Good luck.
Okay.
Good luck.
Hey, what are you cooking for Thanksgiving, Owen?
We got the traditional feast.
We got our turkey.
We got our gravy.
We got our corn.
We got our green bean casserole.
What else do we have down there?
We got rolls, cranberry sauce.
Trying to think of what else I got down there right now.
A couple other items, but yeah, it's a pretty traditional thing here.
We're not doing too much.
Just the standard.
My in-laws, they raise turkeys throughout the end of summer into the fall, and they just slit the throats of our turkey on Sunday.
So I got a freshie in the cooler, 27 pounds.
Yeah, we got a lot of people.
How are you going to prepare that?
I don't know.
I'm going to let my wife do it because if I mess that up, I'm never going to hear the end of it.
If you're going to deep fry a turkey this Thanksgiving, be careful.
Be careful, folks.
Be smart.
That stuff can go bad quick.
So just be smart.
Hey, thanks for the call.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
I'm going to let my wife do it.
Pay their own.
How are you doing?
Hey, can you turn off the audio there for me?
There we go.
Thank you.
Yeah, I just barely caught you.
Hey, this is Don from Morris County.
What's up?
Hey, I just wanted to, I'm glad I got in touch with you.
Just want to wish you happy Thanksgiving, man.
You know, and it's been a crazy year and, you know, just wish you nothing but goodbyes, brother.
You know, I mean, it's, you come a long way.
You really have, man.
It's good to see you.
And it's good to watch the transition and just everything else.
Everything is just transpiring for you.
And I'm glad to be a part of it, man.
I really am.
You're a good dude.
I get goodbyes from you, man.
I appreciate that.
It has been a crazy year.
I get a feeling 26 is going to be even crazier.
Oh, it is.
I think we're all going to be involved with that one.
And it's just, you know, I wanted to touch basically you.
I know you don't mention Candace Owens too often, you know, but man, now that she's taking a week off and now that she's pretty much been vindicated, you got a lot of a lot of, see a lot of people on the internet that were just throwing her under the bus.
And basically, even that Brandon Tatum guy just came out and just said she was crazy.
And David Harris Jr. said she was crazy for doing, you know, acting the way she was acting.
But now, now that she's got all the receipts, they're all like, you know, trying to get a little bit of, how can I say this?
They're trying to ride the coattails of her in, you know, a little bit.
I saw that.
Talking about it on their show.
I saw that.
Do you see?
Yeah, you noticed that, huh?
I did see that.
But then it was strange, too, because Tatum kind of like changed course after he was getting complimented.
They're like, oh, look, you know, Brandon Tatum has, I guess, had a change of heart or a change of mind on Candace Owens.
And then he said, oh, no, I haven't.
I haven't seen any evidence.
So, I don't know.
The whole thing is weird.
I don't, you know, I monitor that just so I know what's going on.
I don't get too invested in it.
But, you know, the one, the last thing I think I covered, I said, it seems like at every turn, I don't know, it's like it's this weird, it's all the same gaslighting.
It's all the same like reverse reality crap that we see.
But it's like they keep saying, oh, Candace has no receipts.
Candace has no receipts.
And it's just like, she seems to be the only one with receipts.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Who else is producing receipts?
Now, apparently somebody trolled her on a fake email or something.
So, okay.
But it seems like everything that Candace has made a claim on, she has provided receipts.
Meanwhile, everybody else, like, see, it's like I only get into it when there's news.
And I, you know, I've talked about before how, and people can like this about me or not, but it's just how I operate.
I don't think it's going to change.
You know, maybe it has to, but, you know, I get along well with pretty much everybody.
I take it's very important for me to get along with everybody, even if I have a disagreement with you or agree with you on most things or all things.
But I like to be able to get along with everybody.
I've got a pretty good relationship with most people out there in the space.
So I try to not go toe-to-toe with some of these things, but like, okay, like I see Jack Pisobic, and he keeps posting about how the parents turned in Tyler Robinson.
And I guess, you know, that's his big evidence.
And he's convinced of the official narrative.
And he says it's total proof that Robinson did it because his parents turned him in.
And I'm just sitting here.
I'm like, well, Jack is smarter than that, obviously, but I don't know.
Maybe he's missing this because clearly that doesn't make any sense.
That doesn't mean anything.
Anybody can turn you in based off of a picture.
If somebody produced a picture of me at the university the day Charlie Kirk was shot and shared that out in the media, well, then my parents could call and say, yeah, that's my son.
That doesn't mean anything.
Just because you ID somebody that was there that's a suspect that you ID'd off a photo or a video, that doesn't mean anything.
It's literally worthless.
You could take a photo from anybody that was at the university that day, put it on the media, and the parents can call and say, that's my son, that's my daughter.
We'll get in touch with them, tell you where they are, and try to turn them in.
That doesn't equate to anything.
It literally proves nothing.
So I don't know why that has somehow Jack is convinced that that is proof positive that Tyler Robinson did it.
And I just don't get it at all.
I'm not going to wade into that battle.
I'm not pushing back on Jack against that.
He deals with it every day anyway, whatever.
He's reached his conclusions.
I completely disagree.
I just don't understand the logic.
It's like, so the parents ID'd their son off of a picture.
What does that mean?
That means nothing.
It literally means nothing.
Any parent could identify any kid that was there that day off of a picture.
It is totally meaningless.
So what?
So if I go find another picture from the day Charlie was killed at UVU and I say, hey, whose kid is this?
And it's just some random, some random college student, some girl, and the parents say, oh, that's my daughter, Katie.
Well, okay.
What does that prove?
Proves absolutely nothing.
So look, here's the obvious.
This is the obvious thing.
And that's why I just don't get into it until there's a news story about it.
Like I saw Candace has some evidence that the French are trying to put out a hit on her.
I covered that yesterday.
But it's like, to me, if there's not a news story, I'm not getting into it anymore.
It's very simple.
They have the video of Tyler Robinson on the roof, and they're not showing us him taking the shot.
Why?
That's really all that matters at this point.
You can go a bunch of different directions.
You can go a bunch of different conspiracies.
You can look at a bunch of different circumstantial evidence.
You can look at a bunch of different weirdness that went on on the ground that day.
You can take a look at specific details like 30-odd 6 and say that's not possible.
Okay, it's all fair.
But I'm just sitting here, I'm saying, let's just, let's be as simple as possible.
All right?
They have a video of Tyler Robinson on the roof.
They have showed us the video of Tyler Robinson on the roof.
Why have they not showed us the video of Tyler Robinson taking the shot?
That's really the only question that matters right now.
That's the only one.
Okay, well, you might say it's not the only one, but to me, it's like everything else is miles behind that.
Everything else is just out of sight until you get that question answered.
They have the video.
If Tyler Robinson took the shot from the roof, like the official narrative, then they have the video.
Why are they not showing it to us?
So what conclusion am I supposed to reach?
They literally have the video of Tyler taking the shot and they won't show it to us.
So he either didn't take the shot, which is what I think.
I don't think Tyler Robinson took the shot.
And how could I reach any other conclusion when they won't show us the video?
They have the video of it.
Why won't they show it to us?
It's very simple.
It's not complicated.
It doesn't take a rocket science.
A mongoloid could figure that out.
They have the video of Tyler allegedly taking the shot.
Why aren't they showing us the video?
They have the video.
They're showing us an edited video where they intentionally edited out Tyler Robinson taking the shot, or he didn't take the shot.
So why won't they show us the video?
Why did they edit it out of the video?
Why won't they show us the video?
Or it's because he did not take the shot.
It's that simple.
So I'm not going to get into some social media debate with Jack over the conclusions that he's reached or why.
Like I said, I'm just not going there anymore.
I already did it for a month.
Okay, I'm not doing it anymore.
When there's news on the story, I'll cover the news.
But it's like, if your logical conclusion is, oh, there's a picture and his parents ID'd the picture, and so somehow that equals guilt, first of all, I don't understand that logic at all.
And I'm shocked that Jack, who I'd think would be smarter than that, to equate that to a logical conclusion, but whatever, he's reached his conclusions for his own reasons.
And I'm just sitting here and I'm just saying the exact same thing I've been saying for a month, which is, why aren't they sharing the video of him taking the shot?
So it's either, why aren't they showing us the video of him taking the shot or the video doesn't exist because he didn't take the shot?
To me, that's it.
Everything else is miles behind that.
Everything else falls into place after you get that question answered.
And to me, that's the glaring hole in this entire thing.
That is the glaring, obvious hole in this entire thing.
And no pun intended, but it's bigger than even the 30-odd six in my eyes.
It's bigger than the hole that was left by the 30-odd six or the lack of a hole that was left by a 30-odd six.
Maybe there's a realm of possibility where you can figure that out.
But until you can answer this question, why did you intentionally edit out the video of Tyler taking the shot?
We know you have the video because you shared the video.
We know that the video has the shot location in the video because we can see the camera.
We can see the perspective of the camera.
So we know it's on the video.
If Tyler Robinson took the shot, they have the video.
So why aren't they showing it?
And the only conclusion I can reach is because he didn't take the shot.
I don't understand how anybody could argue with my logic there.
I just don't.
So that's where I'm at.
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the show with your favorite talk show host, Tits McGee.
Wow.
Thanks, announcer guy.
My announcer guy's gone rogue.
Must have said something that offended him.
Wow.
All right, I do have some news.
I'll try to get through this quick.
I just don't even feel motivated to get to the news, but I think we can move through it pretty fast and get back to your calls here.
Don Jr. coming out in defense of Steve Witkoff today.
It's almost like these media and deep state morons have never successfully negotiated a deal in the real world.
It's pretty obvious that nearly all of Witcog's critics want any sort of Ukraine peace deal to fail so they can continue this war endlessly.
Enough is enough.
Right on, Don Jr.
He's nailed it.
Absolutely correct, Don Jr.
Mark Levin, one of the biggest weasel, slimy rats in American politics today.
He says the Katarlson litmus test.
This is him attacking Tucker Carlson.
Going forward, I'll insist that every Republican who wants our votes declare if they stand with or against lunatic Tucker Katarlson.
That's funny.
So Mark Levin wants to be the gatekeeper for who gets to be the Republican representatives and who doesn't, which is ironic because if that was the case, then we would never have President Donald Trump.
Would we?
Never Trump Levin.
By the way, we ratioed him big on that one.
He's got 1.8 likes.
I've got 8.1 likes.
Let's see.
I've got 426,000 followers.
Levin has 4.9 million.
And we're ratioing almost 10 times on Levin's post.
Yeah, you're real popular guy.
There's your gatekeeper, Mark Levin, who would have made sure Donald Trump was never elected.
And this is what's going to result in Republicans losing elections with Mark Levin gatekeeping.
I'm not even going to waste my energy making fun of him.
Marjorie Taylor Greene gets it.
She's one of the good ones.
And this is exactly what I said yesterday, folks.
It's actually exactly what I said.
I wonder if Marjorie Taylor Greene, we'd be honored if she was in the audience.
But this is exactly what I said.
And then we posted a clip.
And actually, I was talking about Marjorie Taylor Greene when I said it.
She responds to Levin.
She says, this and not delivering America first results will be the end of the Republican Party.
Exactly what I said yesterday.
Just much more concise from Marjorie Taylor Greene today.
Hey, thanks, Marjorie.
Oh, boy.
Tucker Carlson was so good with Sean Ryan.
I've got some clips here.
I don't know.
I don't know if I want to get to them.
Oh, by the way, you know, we played the clip from the Jewish Leadership Conference yesterday with Barry Weiss talking about how she wants to be the gatekeeper for all media now.
And we all know where the line is drawn.
If you don't support Israel, then you don't get to talk.
I didn't realize this.
Did you know that basically the entire event was them bitching about Fuenez, Carlson, and Tate?
Did you know that?
I came onto these clips.
I'm not going to make you listen to Ben Shapiro today.
We're trying to have a nice Thanksgiving, so I'm not going to make you listen to Ben or Mark.
Nobody can stand them anymore.
They're almost becoming intolerable if they aren't already.
Did you know this entire Jewish leadership conference was all about gatekeeping people out of the media, and they complained about Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuene, and Andrew Tate virtually the entire time?
Make of that what you will, folks.
Make of that what you will.
But it resonates this.
I will play this video.
This is a young lady.
She looks to be, she can't be that old, maybe I'm guessing in her 20s.
Young girl here, Beatrice.
She says, okay, I'm going to go to a turning point event.
And this is shared from Sarah Luna on X.
And she says, please take a moment to listen to this young woman's experience at a recent TPUSA event.
My heart breaks for Charlie.
They are destroying everything he built.
I got to say that I'm kind of with Sarah on that.
And look, you know, I've got a lot of friends at Turning Point.
I've always, for the most part, gotten along with the Turning Point people.
I had a couple of, I had a couple of, let's say, maybe sour moments with Turning Point or even Charlie directly back in the day.
I don't hold that against anybody.
I don't hold that against Charlie.
For the most part, we get along or we got along.
But I say that because I was never like, you know, I was never a big TP USA guy.
I didn't get invited to their events.
I didn't get invited to speak on stage.
People tried to actually gatekeep me from Charlie, believe it or not.
Eventually, I was able to break through that and go on his show and actually talk to him.
So that's what I was talking about in the past.
But my point is that, you know, I wasn't a big TPUSA guy.
I wasn't somebody that really followed Charlie's work like that.
So I've kind of never felt like it was my space to offer any opinion on the matter because I, you know, there are people that were much bigger supporters or fans or friends with Charlie than I ever was.
So I just didn't really feel it was appropriate for me to weigh in.
But I got to say that what Sarah Luna is saying here, I've actually been really feeling this way lately.
I've been really feeling this way lately.
I just felt it would be inappropriate for me to say because I just wasn't that close.
I mean, I'm close to some of the people, but I wasn't that close to Charlie, obviously.
I didn't work for TPUSA.
But I'm seeing what they're doing to TPUSA.
I'm seeing what they're trying to do to Charlie's legacy afterwards.
And it actually does break my heart.
I got to say, it's actually really sick and depraved.
And, you know, I'm not judging anybody.
I'm not.
And again, this is why I just don't weigh into the issue because I just, it's not appropriate and I don't want to step on the wrong, you know, tile.
But it's like now they're selling a book.
They're saying, oh, Charlie wrote this book.
They're selling a book now.
And it's just like, man.
Again, I'm not judging anybody.
I don't know the whole story.
But as a neutral observer, as a neutral observer, what's been going on in Charlie's namesake in the aftermath of this has just, it's just been, ugh.
I don't know.
It is kind of heartbreaking, to be honest.
But it's really not my position to weigh into that so much.
But I do kind of resonate here with Sarah.
But nonetheless, so here's a young girl.
She says, I'm going to go check out a Turning Point USA event.
And here she is documenting her experience.
This is a pretty wild story, folks.
So I went to a TPUSA faith event tonight and I want to talk about it.
Thinking that I was going to enjoy myself and learn things because TPUSA is a, obviously, a conservative faith-based foundation, or so I thought.
I thought I was going to be informed about politics stemming like strictly from biblical principles and that's not my experience.
So right off the bat, this figure comes up and like before he even gets into preaching or talking about politics, he begins by calling out Candace Owens and saying that she is evil and anti-Semitic and what she's doing is evil.
I immediately wanted to leave.
I didn't want to be there any longer listening to this nonsense because right off the bat I know that that's just not true.
And the only reason I didn't leave is because on the way in, I basically got like security checked like five times because there was armed men like standing everywhere in front of me.
They were very suspicious of me.
Like I don't know.
There was also an armed man on stage like hand on his gun.
Like that security was everywhere.
And I was like, I just don't want to deal with it.
Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it's, it just didn't feel right.
So I'm in this church and I'm listening to this TPUSA like speaker go on and on about Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and how they're evil and anti-Semitic.
And he basically indirectly is saying we should support Israel because Jesus was a Jew and we wouldn't have Christianity without Judaism, blah, blah, blah.
Obviously, I disagree with that.
What they're doing in Israel is evil and they're so corrupt.
It's insane.
And telling Christians that they should be supporting this evil doing because these people are Jewish.
And if you don't, you're anti-Semitic.
Like, it's just, it's wrong.
And also, I don't think Charlie Kirk would stand for that.
We know, as like the weeks before his passing, he was starting to call out Israel and question Israel.
And Candace Owens was his best friend.
Like, what?
So then he goes on and on and he starts preaching.
Now, I want to pause it here real quick and, you know, take away what you want from her recounting what happened at the TPUSA event as far as them turning it into a we're going to attack a Tucker Carlson or a Candace Owens type of event, which that's what I'm hearing.
It's kind of turning into at a lot of these things.
But TPUSA is huge.
There's a lot of different events.
So one single event does not represent the turning point USA events at large, I must say.
So just so you understand that, there are many TPUSA events that this girl could go to and feel like, okay, this is more of what I anticipated.
Obviously, she didn't get that at the event she went into.
But here's what I want to say.
Isn't it strange?
Now, again, I'm not going to get into the whole Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk phenomenon.
I'm not going to get into that.
But it is strange.
What she says there is just a fact.
What she says there is just a fact.
And I don't know why people are denying it.
It's very odd, actually.
It's putting off guilty vibes to pretend like Charlie Kirk didn't start to have a change of opinion on the situation in Israel.
That is just a fact.
And there are multiple public comments.
And there are now multiple text messages of evidence that prove that is the case.
And so it's so weird to see these people coming out here saying, oh, Charlie, it's like they've turned Charlie Kirk into a martyr for Israel.
It's like they've turned Charlie Kirk's death into a, we need to now use this momentum to get more support for Israel.
And it's like, okay, first of all, we know that you're lying because we can see the things that Charlie said before he died.
We can see the messages and the public comments that Charlie made before he died.
That's public information.
So for you to act like that's not the case is already a little suspicious and a little odd.
And then for you to turn the entire legacy into some Israel martyrdom, it just screams guilt, which is an odd thing.
I don't know.
That whole thing has been extremely strange to me.
But the way he was preaching, it wasn't really preaching.
He was just literally calling like the left names.
He called the left idiots.
He called them freaks.
He called them just, it didn't feel right.
And my thought process is, would Jesus be doing this?
Is this biblical teaching?
Like, you're calling people that we disagree with as Christians all these names in loser, idiot, freak.
Really?
Because last time I checked, Jesus ate with sinners.
He ate with prostitutes.
So you're spreading hate, literally.
And that's not what God stands for.
He's preaching to people whilst spreading hate.
And these people are employing this information.
These teenagers, these young people are absorbing this information, thinking that this is okay.
This is a leader.
This is someone on stage teaching us this.
This is a future generation of Christians.
Do we really want to be more divided?
Like, oh, we're just going to hate on the left because we disagree with them.
We're not going to share the Bible with them.
We're not going to like help them because we think that they're lost.
We're just going to call them losers and freaks and make fun of them and laugh it off.
It was quite disgusting.
And I'm not pleased at all.
So basically, I didn't learn a thing.
He spent the entire time talking about liberals and how they're stupid and blah, blah, blah.
And like how men shouldn't be in women's locker rooms and women's sports.
And I'm like, I think we have more important things to talk about as Christians in this nation than things that we see plastered all over online.
Like, yeah, we all know.
We know that men shouldn't be on women's sports.
We know that they shouldn't be in women's bathrooms.
That's not the most important topic.
Okay?
So that young girl is obviously very in tune, I think, with the current state of American politics.
And I think that everything she says there is very much aligned with where most people stand on the right.
The average American, as I describe it, stands on the right.
And so it's so strange here.
And by the way, so here's a young girl, goes to a TPUSA event, has some price standard expectations about what it's going to be like, and gets there.
And, well, you heard how she feels.
So where do you think she's going to go now?
Who do you think she's going to tune into now?
And isn't that ironic?
Isn't that ironic that, and I'm not making a blanket statement again, TPUSA is a very large organization.
There's a lot of people inside of it with a lot of different thoughts, diversity of thought, philosophy.
So there's no blanket statements about anybody here at TPUSA or the organization at large.
It's a very large group with a lot of diversity inside of it.
But it is ironic here that they use all this time, they use all this energy trying to destroy Nick Fuentes.
It's just one example, or Candace or anybody.
But so here's a young girl.
She goes to a TPU event.
She's let down by what she sees, what she hears.
Where do you think she's going to go now?
Where do you think she's going to go for politics now?
Pretty ironic, isn't it?
And then I look at some of the larger personalities at TPUSA.
And again, it's, I hesitate to even do this commentary because I don't want to get any of the details wrong because there's so many people involved with this now.
There's so many people going in and out of Charlie Kirk's old studio and show and going to the events.
So it's like, I don't even know who's officially affiliated with TPUSA and who's not.
So I don't want to, so really, I'm not even commenting about TPUSA right now.
But it's very clear, and this is a larger issue that's happening on the right.
It's very clear that there are people who are willing and ready to sacrifice anything for the cause of Israel.
Anything.
And they have no remorse, no if, ands, or buts about it.
Charlie Kirk's legacy, let's try to use that to support Israel.
Everything he built with TPUSA, let's try to turn that into keeping the youth attached to Israel.
Look at the Republican Party.
Trump's approval rating, tanking, APAC, ousting the most popular members of the Republican Party, doing everything they can.
For what?
All for support of Israel.
So they're willing to tank a House majority.
They're willing to take this administration all in the name of supporting Israel.
Why is this going on in right-wing politics?
I could sit here and explain what I think is happening or what I know is happening, but just ask.
Just ask yourself, why?
Why is this happening in right-wing politics?
Why are these people who didn't support Trump in 2016, by the way?
Most of them didn't support Trump in 2020 either.
I looked into them all.
None of them were there in 2016, and maybe 10% of them were there in 2020.
Why are they willing to tank everything just for the cause of Israel?
Which I don't even know what that cause is, quite frankly, because it's not even the Israel cause.
Is it the Netanyahu cause?
Is it a Zionist cause?
It's not a Jewish cause.
Now, some people will say it's a Jewish cause, but in case you didn't know, about half of the Israeli Jews don't support Netanyahu.
New numbers are coming out that Trump's approval rating among American Jews is at 30%.
Somebody add that math up for me.
So is it money?
Is it money?
Is it blackmail?
All I can do is look at a development, say, does this make sense or not?
No, it doesn't make sense.
Okay.
Let's do some deductive reasoning.
Let's try to reach some logical conclusions and make sense of it.
And to me, it's money and blackmail.
I don't know.
I cannot, to me, the highest odds of why so many people on the right wing are willing to tank everything for the cause of Israel right now, whatever that means.
I don't know.
I don't even know what that means.
But that's the perception.
They're willing to tank everything for the cause of Israel.
And I'm just sitting here and I'm asking, why?
What is it?
Is it money?
Is it blackmail?
What is it?
Are you an Israeli patriot?
Are you?
Okay.
It's very strange.
It's all very strange.
Well, I guess we'll play the clip since we've mentioned it.
Tucker Carlson.
I'm telling you, he was so good on Sean Ryan.
I guess aside from whatever issue people have with what he said about Nick, I must have missed that one.
He does bring up Zionism here.
He angered a lot of people with this one.
But tell me what you disagree with.
Tell me what you disagree with here from Tucker Carlson, if anything.
They're enemies of Western civilization.
Who are these people?
Are they the Muslims?
Are they the Jews?
Are they, you know, whatever people have always said?
No, no, no.
They're not the Muslims.
They're not the Jews.
They're not the blacks.
They're not whatever group you're blaming.
They're any individual who doesn't acknowledge the human soul.
Period.
That the rights begin and end with the individual, not the group.
Therefore, an attack on Western civilization looks like this.
It's tribalism.
It's identity politics.
It's DEI.
It's whatever.
It's Zionism.
It's any belief system that begins with the understanding that one group is morally superior to other groups.
We don't think in terms of groups as Christians or Westerners.
We think in terms of the individual.
It's literally that simple.
And the reason it's important to say this out loud is because there are so many interests vying for the mantle of defender of Western civilization.
What does it mean to defend the West?
I'm a Western Netanyahu.
I'm a defender of Western civilization.
No, you're its enemy.
Of course.
You're literally its main enemy.
Why?
Because I don't like it.
It doesn't have to do with that.
The reason that Netanyahu is an enemy of Western civilization is because he believes and has said out loud that we're fighting these people because of how they were born, because of their inherent evil.
We don't believe in that.
We believe every person is inherently flawed, but salvageable because God made every person.
Why are the Nazis bad?
The Nazis are bad because for that exact same reason.
And so if you want to defend the West, you defend a single proposition and everything emanates from that proposition.
The individual has rights which were given to him by God.
Period.
You don't have to be a Christian to defend that principle.
There are a ton of Muslims and Jews and everybody else who believe that.
So it's not about hate this group, hate that group.
All of that shit is anti-Western.
Now, there is another powerful video.
I don't have it on my desk.
I suppose I could find it where Tucker Carlson is talking about this phenomenon of the white race declining as far as its percentage of representation on planet Earth, how it's declining and quickly becoming a minority.
And this has all happened after World War II.
The stats are undeniable.
All of this happened after World War II.
And so we'll get a little controversial here, but I can't help but reach a logical conclusion after everything we've seen in the last, let's say, 12 months.
Specifically with comments from, I think, some of the most vile people now that have a platform like Josh Hammer and Mark Levin.
And I think maybe even Netanyahu has said something similar.
But basically, they have espoused this idea that white people are inherently evil because of Hitler.
That's what they've said.
They've said that you are inherently bad if you're white.
It's in your DNA because of Hitler and because of the Nazis.
So you wonder if that's some weird harbored resentment that a large group of people have.
Now, we know it exists on the left, this anti-white bigotry, but does it also exist in maybe some other corners, some other demographic groups, some other groups of individuals out there?
I mean, Hammer and Levin have said it.
You're inherently bad if you're white because of Hitler.
So, okay, I'm hearing that and I'm thinking, all right, so here's a group of people that think whites are evil, inherently evil because of Hitler.
Here's the, which, by the way, 80 million white Christians died in World War II.
They never want you to talk about that.
80 million white Christians died fighting the Nazis.
They conveniently always leave that out of the history books or the history conversations.
So, okay, after World War II, the white population has declined.
After World War II, the borders were opened.
Western countries were flooded with third world migrants.
Bad U.S. foreign policy displaced a bunch of Arabs and Africans into Western nations, and now the white race is on decline.
And you're not even allowed to have a white leader anymore.
You're not even allowed to have any white representation, and you can't even have a white leader for your nation, for your people.
And so I can't help but wonder: did somebody decide we're never going to let whites have culture ever again?
We're never going to let whites or Europeans have a country, have a culture, have a leadership, have a role of leadership for the world after World War II.
Starting to feel that way, isn't it?
Starting to feel that way.
Who else has to open their borders for the third world?
Who else has to pay for all of these wars?
Who else is seeing their population decline at such a rapid rate?
White people.
And then the very people that are stopping white people from taking their identity back, the very people that are stopping a collective of white Christians from taking control of their countries and their culture again, are people like Mark Levin and Josh Hammer, who say that white people are inherently evil because of their DNA.
Eventually, other people are going to think this.
Eventually, other people are going to start reaching the same conclusions that maybe someone like Nick Fuentes has reached.
It's only inevitable.
And it seems like the more you push that, or the more American nationalism rises, or the more white identity and culture rises, there they are to stomp it down and say, not so fast.
Remember the Holocaust.
Excuse me?
How long do we have to sit here and get poked in the eye and reminded of the Holocaust?
I'm just curious.
Is there a statute of limitations where white people can stop getting guilt-tripped into sacrificing their culture and their futures and their countries because of the Holocaust?
When does it end?
Do we have to deal with it?
Is it going to be the year 3000?
And Mark Levin the 10th is going to say, you can't have a white country.
Remember the Holocaust?
What?
And then it'll be 60 million died, too.
When does it end?
All right.
I got a couple other news stories here, but let's just exhaust that.
Let's just go back.
Phone lines are open.
We'll go back to phone.
747-255-60.
747-255-60.
I have not seen anything else as far as the D.C. shooting.
So no updates on that, except the two National Guardsmen that got shot died, and the suspect is in custody.
He was wounded as well, but in custody at a hospital right now.
All right, back to the phone lines.
We go, what's your name?
Where you're from?
Peter, I'm from Connecticut.
All right, Peter, go ahead.
Wow, to actually be able to talk to you with crazy boots.
Yo, like, oh, and Israel, this, Israel, that, net and yahoo, this, net and yahoo that.
This Trump shit is such fucking puppet and pageantry.
And when you were dressed up with the Smeagirl hat, I was fucking dying, bro.
That shit was hilarious.
But Israel, this, Israel, that.
All right.
I want to get straight into what do you think of the globalists?
You know, globalism talking about Zionism, communism.
So funny too, because you're talking about the Vatican.
And you know what's so funny?
I was watching something how, like, the Vatican is like the people controlling, you know, like the Zionism, the community.
Like, it's just, it's just so like, what do you think about the real people controlling this fucking shit show?
Well, the one thing I don't like, I don't like reaching like really broad stroke conclusions, like, oh, it's only this or it's only that.
I think there's a lot of different power brokers.
I think there's a lot of different power factions.
I think sometimes they work congruently.
And I think sometimes they work against each other's interests.
So, like, you bring up the Vatican.
Yeah.
You know, the Vatican obviously has plenty of its issues.
It's had the Catholic Church, the Vatican, has had problems with pedophiles and child rape and everything that they've dealt with as far as that's concerned.
You also have the Vatican, which I believe is covering up very important human history as far as archaeological digs, archaeological artifacts, archaeological sites.
So that's one thing.
I look at the Catholic Church and I say they're hiding human history.
Why are they doing that?
They're covering up child rape.
Why are they doing that?
I don't know.
Okay.
You say globalism.
Well, what is globalism?
Who are the globalists?
All right.
Well, you got your groups like your Vanguard, your BlackRocks.
They're kind of just the financers that just want to control things.
And then you've got your world economic forums, your Davos groups, and they actually want to kind of build the infrastructure.
And it's all about having a corporate global government, centralized power, one policy for the world.
Okay, so there's your globalists.
And, you know, people want to bring up Israel.
Well, yeah, Israel serves its own interests and its own interests solely.
And so whatever collateral damage comes at the cost of preserving Israel's interests, whatever that means at the time, whatever that means at the time, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter to Netanyahu.
100,000 dead Palestinians.
Randy Fine is, you know, he's having a wet dream over it.
So I think there's a bunch of different, I think that there's a bunch of different power brokers.
I think I don't think there's one group.
Now, there might be a group where they're all involved at some level and they all get along at some level.
And maybe this is where your spirit cookings come into play or certain cultural memories like Eyes Wide Shut come into play.
So I don't think that would surprise anybody that that's the case.
But as far as the actual power brokerage is concerned, I think there's a lot of different factions vying for power and wealth.
I love that you say that where it's just like, it's kind of like them in kind of like a mix.
You know, and for me, I'm like, I'm like, who is this one family?
Who is this one, you know, because this shit, I mean, even the economy is so bad.
And I want to get your thoughts too on like, you know, the upcoming shit with Zelensky.
I mean, it's crazy that the Ukraine war is on it.
I personally think it's on its final heels.
I personally think.
Well, look, I think that Ukraine knows it's done.
Okay.
Yeah.
The Europe, European leaders and NATO know that they can bear, they can't, there's not much more they can milk out of this.
Exactly.
There's barely any support from the people in Europe.
There's barely any support from the people in America.
So they know it's like, all right, there's only so much left of this.
There's only so much ground left for us to even move on here.
So we got to get a peace deal done.
And it looks like Witkoff is about to close a peace deal.
It looks like, you know, Zelensky is about to come here and maybe have to make some concessions, but get the peace deal done and stop the war.
And then what do we get?
We get the same neocons.
We get the same warmongers.
We get the same establishment hacks that are attacking Witkoff today and trying to stop the peace deal from getting done, just like they did to him in Israel two months ago.
So it's like, it's like, why?
Why is that happening?
Why?
Steve Witkoff is out here.
I believe Steve Witkoff is actually out here trying to get a lasting peace deal.
Not a ceasefire, not a, hey, let's just stop it for a couple months or a year or two.
Like he wants to get a lasting peace deal.
And that's, that's been my, I call it as I see it.
That's what I've seen from Steve Witkoff.
And it's like, okay, here he is again about to get a peace deal done.
And it's the same people attacking him, trying to sabotage it.
It's just like, why?
What is wrong with you freaks that want war?
It is the 20, it is the 21st century.
War is unnecessary probably 90% of the time, maybe 95%.
War is totally unnecessary.
We don't need to fight wars over some woman that somebody is chasing.
We don't need to fight wars over land and resources.
We have the technology.
We don't need to fight wars because there's some sort of cultural or language barrier between people that we can't sort out.
We can talk to one another.
War in the 21st century should be completely eradicated.
And yet, here's the same people trying to keep these wars going and unpopular.
And look what it's done to our economy.
I mean, it's just like, if it keeps going away, it's going on.
My people are going to wake up.
The fucking dollar is just like, the dollar is powerless.
I work like a decent job and I'm a musician.
And it's just like, I feel like I'm the same hamster wheel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, think about it like this.
And I thank you for the call.
Because I'm seeing the people that are attacking Witkoff today.
And they're trying to sell us that we need to continue this war in Ukraine.
And it's like, all right, you know what?
Maybe you have a geopolitical philosophy or stance or opinion, whatever, and you want war with Russia.
Okay.
Let's just say for whatever reason, that's your thing.
Good luck selling that to the American people.
Good luck selling another war in a foreign country with us paying for it when the average American is struggling just to pay their bills.
Good luck with that.
And that's what they're trying to do.
And that's what they're trying to shove down our throats.
And then you just say, hey, this isn't really popular.
Maybe we should reconsider.
They start calling you names.
They start to launch their attacks just like they're doing to Steve Witkoff.
It's so unhuman.
I don't know how else to draw it.
It is unhuman.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
Josh Markadia.
All right, Josh, go ahead.
What's going on, my fellow Pannican?
Yeah, well, the Panakins were right again, huh?
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
All the guys from 2015 and beyond.
Look at where we're at now.
Sidelines.
It's funny how that sidelines trying to warn everybody.
Well, we're not really on the sidelines.
They think they put us on the sidelines, but we're not.
We're not on the sidelines.
If we were on the sidelines, they wouldn't be constantly fighting with us.
So we're actually in the arena.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, because we still see past the deep state bullshit.
What else is on your mind?
The foreign influence.
I don't understand, man.
It's constantly Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew.
It's like, man.
I'm sorry if that's a meme from your prior boss.
That's why I did it.
But it's like, man, what is going on here?
It's MAGA now as Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro count me out.
I want the Owen Sawyers.
And pardon me, I want the Alex Joneses.
I want the Tucker Carlsons.
That's the MAGA I want.
That's the MAGA I voted for.
Guys like you.
Yeah.
Well, it is ironic, you know, all of these people that want to gatekeep MAGA now.
And it's just like, dude, you guys were never MAGA.
What do you mean?
You don't gatekeep it.
No, it's insane.
I mean, half these people hated Trump before he got elected.
And now it's like, oh, I got my huge donations.
I love you.
I'm going to take a flight to a foreign country.
I, you know, honestly, the whole thing is so crazy because you got to just, you know, you look at all the different outcomes, all the different possibilities.
And it's like, it really has fallen apart so fast.
And the narrative and the focus has shifted to such a radical degree.
It's almost like you have to wonder if it was done intentionally.
And I'm not a Q guy.
I'm not a Q guy.
But remember, Q always said Israel for last.
And it's like, okay, now the most scorned policy is the foreign policy dictated by Israel.
It's like the most scorned people on the right are the ones that are serving Israel.
It's like that did happen.
Q did say that.
I'm not a Q guy, but it's like, it's just crazy how that's happened.
It's undeniable.
And it's only going one direction, by the way.
It's only going one direction.
All right.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
Just me, Michael, from Florida.
All right, Michael, go ahead.
Owen, good to talk to you.
I've been listening a long time now.
Owl Killer called in.
He was talking about how the Democrats are always funding each other and putting all this money up.
And one thing I just kind of want to say about that is I don't think it's their money.
I think it's our money.
I think they're stealing from so many different fat systems in our government.
And they're using that money to then give them more power.
And I think that's just kind of one of the misnomers that so many people have is that it's not actually, you know, the Democrats putting up their money.
It's the Democrats stealing our money and then giving them more power with it.
Well, yeah, it seems like everybody does that with our money.
It seems like everybody gets our money except us.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I mean, I think one of the biggest things that we're stuck with right now is we have a judicial system that's broken.
And how we fix it, man, I don't know.
I mean, that's, I would almost say we need to declare martial laws to fix it.
But I mean, we're, we're, this next election is going to be the one that either determines whether we end up in a destroyed system or slaves to the system or can actually become a nation again.
Well, I think it's, I think it really is about what is the AI surveillance grid going to be more than anything.
How is it going to be utilized?
What purpose is it going to serve?
I think that's the real big factor that we have to weigh into the future right now.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
Hi, Ellen.
My name's Lori.
All right, Lori.
I'm from Maryland.
What's on your mind?
I was just thinking, like, you talk a lot about the taxes.
We need to find a way to cut off the funding to the government.
But how do we do that?
Like, yeah, well, you know, it's funny because you'd think that that would work.
And theoretically, that would work.
The problem is, as we found out with Doge, they just print money out of thin air.
They literally just print money out of thin air.
They just put numbers on a spreadsheet and claim it's money.
So even that, even that would be defeated in its practice.
But it just shows you how much they hate us because they can print money, but they still take all of our money.
Right.
Why don't they just print?
Right.
Why don't they just print our taxes?
What do you think is going on with Trump?
I have a hard time believing that he made such a change like that.
I think he did make a change.
I think he went through the system and he found out how to be a politician.
I think that's it.
And maybe it's beholden to the donors.
I don't want to think the worst.
I don't want to think the worst that there's a blackmail deal involved.
I'm not convinced of that.
I think he just, I think he went through it.
He saw how it works, how it doesn't work, and what happened to him the first go-around and then what happened to him on the campaign.
And I think he said, all right, I'm just going to go path of least resistance.
I'm just going to go path of least resistance.
Do you think they promised not to lock up him and his family or something?
And then he just, maybe there were some backdoor deals like that, or maybe there's a concept that that's how it's going to go down.
I wouldn't trust that either way.
But it does seem like it seems like Trump has chosen the path of least resistance in his second administration.
That's what it seems like.
Okay.
All right.
That's all I had.
All right.
Thank you for the call.
Thank you.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
Hey, there he is.
I'm out here in California.
Mark.
All right, Mark.
What's on your mind?
Hey, brother, I just called to say I watched the show and I'm liking the new format.
Hope you have a nice Thanksgiving.
Hey, thank you.
I appreciate that.
You as well.
Yeah, and I support the cause.
So I know you went through a lot and it's cool being able to talk to you.
So, yeah, real quick, just wanted to say hello and keep on doing what you're doing, man.
I like that.
People just want to, they just want to call in and just say hi.
You know, what's wrong with that?
I like that.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
It's nice.
You just say hi sometimes.
Just, hey, how are you doing?
Good.
Have a nice Thanksgiving.
Thank you.
You too.
All right.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Jimmy from Arizona.
All right, Jimmy, go ahead.
Hey, Owen, what are you making for Thanksgiving dinner?
I already said this, but I'll answer it again.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just joking with you.
Hey, getting back to your early conversation about what's behind the attack on white Western Christian civilization, I was going to suggest a guest for you who you're familiar with.
You should have Adam Greene on your show or go on his show.
Yeah, we're actually been working on another collab.
We keep in touch every once in a while.
He's got access to me.
So I wouldn't be surprised if that happens again.
Jones stole a bunch of videos from his crew and used them last week and talked about the war on Edom.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he messaged me about that.
Maybe that's what spurred that.
He messaged me about that.
Adam Green did.
I think it was a week or two ago, and he said we needed to collab on it.
Maybe that's what spurred that.
You know, I said this yesterday, and maybe it'll reach people for whatever it's worth.
But like, you know, I've got to got two philosophies going right now, which is the most important thing for me to do is this show.
And so I don't know.
Sometimes I'll do a spree where I'll do, like last week, I did like five guest interviews, and then I get through that week and I'm like, it kind of hurts the show.
I get burned out faster.
I forget what I said on which shows.
And so sometimes I'm not sure what to say on this show.
So part of me now is like, I just want to do this show.
I don't even want to do any other shows.
I don't want to do guests.
I don't want to do other shows.
I just want to do this every day.
This is the most important work I can do, is right here.
Having said that, I've got a lot of friends, and we'll do collabs, and I'll get on their show, and they'll come on my show.
And I'll probably eventually do that with Adam Green again.
But it's just like I have, I can't even keep up anymore.
I have so much incoming at this point.
I just, I can't, I feel bad.
I have people that reach out, and it's like, I won't even see their message for like a week or a month later.
I'm like, oh, sorry.
I missed that.
So it's all good problems to have.
It's all good problems to have.
It's just sometimes I feel bad because people think I'm ignoring them or something.
And it's just, I just, there's so much incoming.
And it's just, for me, the most important thing is this show every day and making sure this show is as good as possible.
And so anything that interferes with that, I just kind of have to, I just kind of have to put on the back burner.
But we'll see.
I think Adam and I will probably talk again soon.
Next caller, final caller of the show today, final caller of the week as we're heading into Thanksgiving.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey, Owen, it's Jacob in New York.
All right, Jacob, go ahead.
I heard your comments about Trump, and I just wanted to see if you shared the opinion.
Like, with the people he's chosen to pardon and, you know, the Trump's family's relationship in the Middle East, you know, it's sad to see, but it seems like he's just willing to play ball with anybody who's willing to line his pockets.
I don't know if that's kind of the worst case scenario you were laying out, but from what it looks like to me, it seems like everybody who's willing to play ball, you know, with him personally is going to be, you know, fed.
What do you mean by that?
Like, whether it's Miriam Adelson, whether it's the Bitcoin people that he pardoned down in Tennessee, MBS, you know, like it's sad to see, but it feels like he is just money-hungry and self-serving and serving the interests of the Trump family, you know, with the Trump coin and everything like that.
I just wanted to see if you shared that same opinion.
I don't know if I would say I share the same opinion, but I would say the evidence suggests that that's a fair conclusion to reach.
And I don't say it, you know, out of spite, you know, the day one Maggie.
No, no, hey, I'm all about fair coverage.
Call it as you see it.
There's no spite.
It is what it is.
I mean, he gained like, you know, the majority of his net worth on that Trump coin thing, which was like the most obvious, like, blatant rug pull of all time.
That's when I knew we were cooked, you know.
Was that what did it for you?
That's where I was like, you know, I mean, Baron is definitely going up to Trump and like, hey, dad, I got a way we can do it.
I wonder.
I wonder about that.
Happy Thanksgiving, Owen.
All right.
Hey, thank you for the call.
All right, folks.
We're going to sign off.
We're going to sign off for the rest of the week.
We're going to take a break until Monday.
We're going to celebrate Thanksgiving with friends and family.
Hope you do the same.
Are you going to be talking politics at the Thanksgiving festivities?
Are you going to be talking politics with friends and family?
Or are you going to avoid it?
Well, you know, either way, I don't think anybody would blame you.
I think the conversation will go a lot differently this year, though.
You know what I mean?
I think it'll go a lot differently.
All right.
That's it for the Owen Report this week.
When will we meet again?
Is it next month?
It is.
It is.
It is next month, December 1st.
We will meet again on December 1st.
We take a four-day break.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
God bless.
Godspeed.
Thankful, grateful for all of you.
Enjoy your long weekend with friends and family.
Enjoy it.
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