Nov. 26, 2025 - Owen Shroyer Live
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| Oh, good afternoon now to our friends on the East Coast and good morning to our friends on the West Coast. | ||
| It is Ask the Doctor time brought to you by the Wellness Company. | ||
| And joining us from the Wellness Company is Dr. Peter McCullough, a good friend of mine and really emerged as one of the great hero doctors when we were going through the COVID tyranny and the vax tyranny. | ||
| And we may revisit some of those issues today with Dr. McCullough, as he was on the forefront of that. | ||
| And really, the wellness company at large has kind of been at the forefront of one issue that we're going to discuss today, which is this attempt to centralize medicine, centralized treatment, centralized protocols, and really kind of end that unique, special doctor, client, doctor-patient relationship that has been so valuable, I think, in America or any free country for that matter when it comes to healthcare. | ||
| So we're going to be talking about that today. | ||
| But Dr. McCullough, I have to start this conversation with something I'm seeing more and more of here. | ||
| And it seems like this is kind of becoming the norm when you go out and you see all of this flu vaccine promotion is what I see. | ||
| I see it on buses. | ||
| I see it on television. | ||
| I see it when I go out to public events that might have a PA system like a ball game or a concert. | ||
| And so they're still kind of just force feeding us this idea that you need to take the flu vaccine, the seasonal flu shot. | ||
| But Dr. McCullough, can you maybe give the audience what your thoughts are on the seasonal flu vaccine and if you believe it is safe and effective, those words we're so used to hearing? | ||
| Well, Owen, thank you so much for having me on the program. | ||
| It's great to join. | ||
| And, you know, I just retweeted the live broadcast. | ||
| I want all my followers to join, listen in. | ||
| We're going to cover some key concepts, updates in medical care. | ||
| Owen, let me ask you, have you ever had a test for influenza? | ||
| You yourself? | ||
| A test? | ||
| I don't believe I've ever had a test. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, me neither. | ||
| So I've never had a test. | ||
| I've never had influenza. | ||
| I mean, it's something that you test. | ||
| It's a clinical diagnosis. | ||
| So the point is, for people our age or healthy, the chances of getting influenza are way less than 1%. | ||
| So the issue at hand here is, are we going to take a vaccine where our annual risk for the problem is less than 1%? | ||
| A vaccine that doesn't stop transmission, doesn't stop actually acquiring the infection. | ||
| And the purported benefits theoretically is that it would reduce severe disease. | ||
| So every year, the CDC has a campaign to push influenza vaccine. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| Our public health agencies should not be in the business of pushing any medicine or vaccine. | ||
| They should be neutral on products. | ||
| But instead, the CDC every year has a campaign and they evaluate the prior year in terms of estimated vaccine efficacy. | ||
| So in my view as a doctor, the only vaccine that would be worth my while would be something that's at least 50% protective against acquiring the illness. | ||
| The influenza vaccine most years is well below 50%. | ||
| And most recently, a paper by Shreffa and colleagues from Cleveland Clinic, 51,000 Cleveland Clinic employees, so they have this lockdown that they showed that those who took the influenza vaccine have a greater chance of getting flu, that the vaccine actually backfires. | ||
| Prior randomized trials have shown if you do take the flu vaccine, you actually have a higher risk of getting the common cold. | ||
| So for many reasons, I stopped taking them. | ||
| I took 40 in a row, 40 years in a row to be on medical staff at hospitals. | ||
| I was getting sick all the time. | ||
| Oh, no, I finally stopped taking the flu shot. | ||
| Now I've had a couple years of being well. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| I'm going to have to ask you to repeat that because it sounded like you said, not only did you take the flu shot for 40 straight years, but it sounds like there was institutional pressure even. | ||
| Oh, it started out as encouragement, I would say, you know, 20 years ago to then some strict guidance. | ||
| Then it became a requirement. | ||
| And then in the last few years, Owen, this is before the pandemic. | ||
| In the last few years, they would say, listen, we're kicking you out of the hospital and deactivating your ID badge unless you get a flu shot. | ||
| So it became a requirement for employment. | ||
| That's how crazy hospitals became regarding flu shots, and they don't even work. | ||
| And, you know, there's so much wrong with that dynamic. | ||
| It's like, where do I even want to begin? | ||
| There's kind of the fascist angle of that, where it's saying, hey, we're going to force you to consume this product. | ||
| And then there's kind of the logical fallacy, which I think really it hit a lot of people with the COVID vaccines, which was, hey, if you're vaccinated against COVID, believing it works, let's say it was 100% safe and effective. | ||
| Not that we're promoting that here today, but let's just say it was. | ||
| And then there was this like logical fallacy that was, oh, if you're not vaccinated, somehow you're putting me at risk. | ||
| But if you're vaccinated, obviously that wouldn't make sense if you believe that the vaccine is safe and effective. | ||
| How do they, you know, one of the craziest things about this, and I can only imagine from the actual perspective of a doctor being behind the scenes, because we see some of it on the surface level and you guys will do interviews like this. | ||
| But I mean, just dealing with the logical fallacies inside of these medical institutions, I can't even imagine how infuriating it is. | ||
| Some doctors probably just give up, Peter. | ||
| They probably just say, I'm not even going to try to fight the system. | ||
| It's too ingrained. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense, but whatever. | ||
| This is what it is. | ||
| Owen, I was one of them. | ||
| I just gave up. | ||
| I never was a vaccine enthusiast. | ||
| I was taking the path of least resistance. | ||
| I'd say, okay, let me take my flu shot. | ||
| And sometimes it was New Year's Eve and I was getting it because I literally was going to be locked out of the hospital on January 1st. | ||
| And I can tell you that my eyes were opened a few years ago. | ||
| My brother, who's an investment guy in Dallas at the time, one of his colleagues just took a routine flu shot and he became permanently paralyzed with a syndrome called Guillain-Beret syndrome or GBS. | ||
| And he's been bedridden since that time. | ||
| This guy was a perfectly normal, healthy, productive man who after an innocent flu shot now, his life is ruined. | ||
| And there's been manuscripts published on this. | ||
| There's been an explosion of Guillain-Beret cases. | ||
| Sure, it's rare, but it's directly due to influenza vaccine. | ||
| And the current statistics are half of America takes this vaccine that doesn't work and in some cases delivers rare but very disabling permanent side effects. | ||
| Well, you now, now half of the doctors that we've had on this show to interview about this have now recently talked about a patient developing Guillain-Beret syndrome after taking one of these vaccines. | ||
| How much is that warned about? | ||
| You know, how many people go in? | ||
| We'll talk about America here. | ||
| How many Americans go in to a clinic to get their influenza vaccine and are warned about this stuff? | ||
| Is it just in one of those tiny little printouts that they have to unfold a thousand times and read? | ||
| Is the person that is actually putting the injection into their arm, are they warning them? | ||
| Is there any warning system for this? | ||
| Or is it just, oh, it's the flu vaccine. | ||
| It's great and good luck. | ||
| Yeah, it's the latter, Owen. | ||
| I've never been warned of any side effects. | ||
| In fact, the last shot I took in 2021, I actually asked for the package insert and she had to kind of pull it out of the garbage pail that was thrown in there. | ||
| And, you know, it's like a magnifying glass. | ||
| It's like, you know, you're like trying to figure out what it says. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, you know, it does list in there these side effects. | ||
| I mean, this is very important. | ||
| So the companies will say, listen, we warned you, but the way it's presented, what's called the process of consent, is very much corrupted now. | ||
| But this idea of this false narrative of safe and effective, you know, because influenza is rare in us, we would be taking this vaccine to prevent a rare event, and then having a side effect is rare. | ||
| So the human mind has a hard time dealing with rare or infrequent problems. | ||
| But I got to tell you, one case of Guillain Beret syndrome, I got to tell you, that's one case too many for me. | ||
| I'm not taking any more flu shots. | ||
| Well, it's like, who would rather have Guillain Beret than the flu, right? | ||
| I mean, you can probably get over the flu, even a bad one in a week. | ||
| Whereas Guillain Beret, you're going to be stuck like that. | ||
| There's nothing you're going to be able to really do. | ||
| And, you know, I guess this kind of brings us to, you know, one of the issues that the Trump administration, before it got in, was kind of running with the Make America Healthy Again movement and RFK Jr. and some of the people that he brought in. | ||
| There was kind of this anti-medical establishment wing, let's say, of the Trump campaign and now of the Trump administration. | ||
| It seems like it's gone kind of silent. | ||
| I wouldn't say it's been, personally, I wouldn't say it's been a total failure, but it does seem to leave a little bit to be desired from people like you who've been through kind of the corrupt side. | ||
| You've exposed, you've seen the corrupt side of the medical establishment. | ||
| And then somebody like me who's just a natural contrarian and really a believer in natural health. | ||
| Maha right now from this administration, it seems to leave a lot to be desired. | ||
| Dr. McCullough, what are your thoughts on that? | ||
| It's definitely a mixed review. | ||
| Let me just tell you what I would do if I was in RFK's position. | ||
| I think that's the easiest thing to say. | ||
| So I'm not a public figure and I'm not a government employee. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| This is what I would have done. | ||
| Day one, I would have pulled the COVID vaccines off the market, initiated a safety review, and directed the NIH to have a massive campaign to research and treat vaccine injuries. | ||
| That's day one. | ||
| The next thing I would have done is I would have worked with Congress to write a bill to rescind the 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act and have the companies face liability. | ||
| Immediately, they would pull their vaccines off the market. | ||
| Keep in mind, AstraZeneca and Janssen had already pulled their vaccines off the market because of blood clouds. | ||
| So you know ethical companies will do that. | ||
| And then I would have written legislation or asked Trump to write an executive order. | ||
| And then I would have banned all school, military, or employment vaccine requirements of any kind. | ||
| And I would have depressurized this entire thing. | ||
| The whole reason why there's a Maha movement is there's a lot of people concerned about vaccine safety in that contingent. | ||
| And then what I would have done is I would have written legislation or asked for an executive order to ban direct-to-consumer advertising on TV. | ||
| That way TV stations could start to give unbiased medical reporting. | ||
| That would have been day one. | ||
| Those four things would have been day one. | ||
| Then I would have done, and this is the great missed opportunity. | ||
| This is how Kennedy could change healthcare, but he's not doing it. | ||
| He needs to start calling in a series of monthly meetings in Washington. | ||
| We call them Bethesda meetings. | ||
| We've had them before. | ||
| So there's a new structure where you bring in all the chiefs of medicine, you bring in big pharma, the FDA, the CDC, the NIH, public groups. | ||
| You have a big forum and you have an agenda and you start tackling topics, from vaccine safety to the autism epidemic to natural products that look promising for cancer. | ||
| And the reason why you can pull off these meetings and you get everybody in the room, none of this Zoom stuff, you have all the face-to-face is because Kennedy can say, listen, you're receiving government money through CMS and through the National Institutes of Health. | ||
| You're expected to show up at the meeting. | ||
| So have the corporate CEO, the chief medical officer, the chief of medicine. | ||
| You figure out who the designees are for your institution. | ||
| But I want to see Harvard there and Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic and just rattle them off. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| He could change. | ||
| He could have changed healthcare in a year if we had that type of leadership. | ||
| And you don't have to hire any new employees. | ||
| You don't have to, because these meetings are so powerful to get people in the same room. | ||
| Then there could be no, you know, there could be no excuse that, wow, I didn't know about the emerging data on ivermectin and membenazole in cancer, for instance, or I didn't know about the spike protein. | ||
| No one can say that anymore because we've had these Bethesda meetings, which are recorded. | ||
| The proceedings are written up and quickly published. | ||
| I mean, what a missed opportunity. | ||
| That goes to show, if I had RFK's position, that's what have been accomplished now. | ||
| And it's just, you know, we're obviously two different people. | ||
| Well, it makes an outsider like me wonder, because I think RFK Jr. probably had at least a similar mindset, maybe not the exact schematic that you just laid out, but I think he had a similar mindset. | ||
| And it just seems like once you get into DC, you just get stuck, right? | ||
| You just get stuck in the mud. | ||
| Things seem to slow down, which is good. | ||
| We don't want the government encroaching in our lives. | ||
| But it seems like with the good stuff, it's even harder. | ||
| It's even harder to do the right thing for the American people when you get involved. | ||
| We'll see what happens when it's all said and done with this. | ||
| But I think a lot of people agree right now that, hey, there's a lot left to be desired here. | ||
| Now, it's funny on the vaccine topic, because this happens a lot if you ever go to a doctor's office or something and they ask you, oh, are you vaccinated? | ||
| And it's just like, I'm always excited to see the reaction. | ||
| I say, no, I've never taken a single vaccine. | ||
| And the panic, Dr. McCullough, the fear, they start shaking. | ||
| They can't even believe it. | ||
| Like I'm an alien and I'm going to shoot lasers out of my eyes or something. | ||
| And the truth is for me, it's strange because it's like I've never been an unhealthy person ever. | ||
| I've always been a healthy person. | ||
| I don't get the seasonal flu ever. | ||
| I'm rarely, if ever, sick. | ||
| I rarely, if ever, miss work. | ||
| And I believe for me, for my health practices, it's taking supplements. | ||
| It's making sure that you know what is good to fight off an influenza or what you need in the winter or if you're not getting enough sun, all of this stuff. | ||
| And so, you know, this is why, and I know you guys have a Black Friday sale happening right now at the wellness company, TWC.health slash Owen, 25% off all supplements right now, like recharge and pharmaceutical scripts like for ivermectin, peptide products. | ||
| We also have 20% off all emergency kits right now, 20% off one wellness memberships right now. | ||
| This is all happening at TWC.health slash Owen. | ||
| Again, for me, it's all about, I'm kind of a supplement head. | ||
| I'm probably what would be considered the extreme level where I'm taking like 20 different supplements a day. | ||
| You know, maybe you can maybe get away with five. | ||
| I'm taking 20. | ||
| And it only seems to be going up, by the way. | ||
| But I stay healthy. | ||
| I stay healthy. | ||
| And that's why it's important. | ||
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| Dr. Peter McCullough is our guest here. | ||
| So, so what is it then? | ||
| We don't want to force you to take a vaccine. | ||
| We don't want to recommend the vaccine. | ||
| But I'll tell you what, if you're worried about getting the seasonal flu or something like that, what is something you can do to help build your immune system? | ||
| It's a great question. | ||
| Owen, did I hear you correctly? | ||
| That you have never taken a vaccine your entire life? | ||
| I'm non-vaccinated, Doc. | ||
| Can you believe it? | ||
| And you're healthy as a horse. | ||
| I rarely, if ever, get sick. | ||
| And, you know, there's so many stories I could tell about that. | ||
| Like, you know, when they send you to prison, my wonderful vacation to prison in the Biden administration, you know, you have to go see a doctor and they take you through the routine because a lot of people are there for years, right? | ||
| So this is your doctor for the next five, 10 years, whatever. | ||
| So, yeah, the doctor went into kind of a state of panic when she found out that I hadn't had a vaccine. | ||
| And then she was even more panicked when I was like, no, I don't want the Hep B vaccine. | ||
| No, I don't want the COVID vaccine. | ||
| No, I don't want your flu vaccine. | ||
| Then she was even more panicked, like, oh, I got a crazy on my head. | ||
| Then she tried to give me a pill for cholesterol. | ||
| So I'm just sitting here. | ||
| I'm like, my God, I'm in prison for like, it was like 72 hours, and I'm already, they're already trying to turn me into a big pharma cow. | ||
| This is unbelievable. | ||
| So they did let you stay in prison completely unvaccinated then, huh? | ||
| So in Louisiana, if I would have been in a different state, but because of the regulations and the laws in Louisiana at that time, they couldn't force me to take anything. | ||
| They had some pretty good medical freedom statutes at that time. | ||
| So they couldn't force me to take anything. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Some other people in different states didn't have such luck. | ||
| Well, Owen, I can tell you, you're supported by the evidence. | ||
| So now we've just published this October 27th, 2025. | ||
| And this is concerning autism in children. | ||
| And this is on your X account, correct? | ||
| Yes, it's on our X account. | ||
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| Yeah, this is the most extensive publication on the origins of the autism crisis. | ||
| And we point out in here, there's table four. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| There are now 12 studies that show that people like you, Owen, who are completely unvaccinated, are healthier than your vaccinated counterparts. | ||
| So, you know, and you can't choose, you know, you have to thank your mom and dad. | ||
| When I was a baby, my mom took me in and I got blasted with vaccines. | ||
| So my body has had 69 shots. | ||
| And now looking back, Owen, I can tell you, I think I would be healthier if I was like you and had no shots whatsoever. | ||
| That's what the data show. | ||
| This is an incredible study that you're bringing up here. | ||
| And, you know, you think it would be more groundbreaking. | ||
| I mean, has anybody invited you on to their show, like maybe a major news network to report on this? | ||
| It's mainly been independent media, but I have to tell you, I think it should, I'll be all over CNN and Fox and all the major stations. | ||
| Our paper was published on the European Commission Open Air Zenodo server. | ||
| It's already had 200,000 downloads and reads. | ||
| A typical scientific paper, there's only gets like 250. | ||
| And, you know, we believe the report, which was sent to Robert F. Kennedy and everybody in charge at CDC and HHS. | ||
| And we were told not to expect a response because they don't want to correspond with external email addresses. | ||
| But we think this report is what moved the CDC to change their language on the website within three weeks of getting the report where they said, you know, the statement that autism is not linked to vaccines is not evidence-based. | ||
| It's not evidence-based because we analyzed all those 29 studies and we showed that they were flawed. | ||
| So this was a big deal. | ||
| Senator Bill Cassidy gets out on CNN and all the major news stations and he's pounding the CDC. | ||
| And, you know, we've messaged Cassidy to say, listen, just read the report. | ||
| And fortunately, HHS came out and kind of backed this up and said, listen, we're responding to the gold standard science, i.e. the McCullough Foundation report. | ||
| So you brought up the TV ads, right? | ||
| You brought up the big pharmaceutical TV ads. | ||
| They run on all the networks. | ||
| In fact, I think people have found, and the numbers are disputed, but people have found that big pharmaceutical ad buys are one of the cornerstones for network news, for cable news, those big pharmaceutical ad buys. | ||
| Now, RFK Jr. had talked about removing those from TV. | ||
| That's probably an obstacle for somebody like you. | ||
| That's probably an obstacle for the study that you are releasing here because the people that sponsor cable news, those products, your study is shedding new light on those products that they might not want to be there. | ||
| And the same would be true regarding any pharmaceutical that has side effects. | ||
| So if we were brought news about bleeding complications with blood thinners, I guarantee you would never make it on CNN because they have a contract with Pfizer and Pfizer makes the most widely used blood thinner, Eloquist. | ||
| And that's how this goes. | ||
| The pharmaceutical contracts essentially become a filter for medical reporting. | ||
| So you don't actually get a decent medical report on CNN or MSNBC or CBC and ABC. | ||
| You can't because the pharmaceutical companies control the content. | ||
| So in general, the content is just favorable to their products. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we saw that. | ||
| I think, you know, that's why the COVID era, let's say, changed so many people's perspective on it that really, I don't think they're going back, right? | ||
| You know, the things that we saw changed their minds or their interpretation of the medical industry permanently. | ||
| And that kind of gets me to something that the wellness company is fighting against, something that you personally were fighting against during the pandemic, which was this decentralization of medical care, this decentralization of medical protocols. | ||
| I think we found it to be deadly, actually, during COVID. | ||
| I think that we found Dr. Fauci's protocols to be deadly. | ||
| Where is that fight today? | ||
| Where we stand as far as this attempt to centralize everything versus what the wellness company is trying to do, which is decentralize. | ||
| And, you know, Trump has kind of helped you, I think, a bit in that endeavor. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| So the theme was during the pandemic is to centralize things. | ||
| Remember when Jacinda R. Dern in New Zealand said there will be a single source of medical truth, the government. | ||
| Well, I can tell you as a doctor, there is no single source. | ||
| No two doctors agree. | ||
| We all have different approaches. | ||
| No two lawyers agree on legal issues. | ||
| No two plumbers agree on how to manage a plumbing problem. | ||
| So we need independent thought and opinions. | ||
| We need independent protocols. | ||
| During COVID, we saw the medical institutions provide no innovation. | ||
| There was no Harvard protocol on how to treat COVID or there's no hospital that claims to be any good at treating inpatient COVID. | ||
| There's no comparative data. | ||
| I mean, COVID changed everything. | ||
| Wellness company, we've said, listen, we have a doctor's group. | ||
| In fact, over time, contractually, we've changed the doctor's group when we're entitled to do that. | ||
| The doctors have their own opinions. | ||
| We have a medical board that has their own opinions. | ||
| We are using prescription drugs as well as nutraceuticals and supplements, but it's always in shared decision-making with the patient. | ||
| There's no pressure or coercion or threat of reprisal. | ||
| I'm in my medical practice here in Dallas. | ||
| I guarantee my opinions on my last patient will be different than the next doctor's opinions. | ||
| If we've learned anything, Owen, we should reject centralization of medicine. | ||
| We should reject centralization of protocols. | ||
| And it's one of the mistakes that Kennedy and his group is making right now is they're trying to think, they're trying to think that Maha, Make America Healthy Again, is a government operation. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Make America Healthy Again is an operation among the people. | ||
| It's the people control. | ||
| Each person controls their own medical health, their own personal autonomy, not the government. | ||
| How much does insurance play into this problem? | ||
| It's huge. | ||
| Insurance is a massive barrier in what's happening. | ||
| Today, I just spent, I've spent a month now trying to get one of my patients with a mechanical heart valve the proper monitoring on his blood thinner called Warfriend. | ||
| And this is critical. | ||
| I have to be able to monitor it. | ||
| His insurance covers monitoring, his home testing equipment. | ||
| They have put me through a fax wet signature date process multiple times. | ||
| A, I shouldn't be using fax machines. | ||
| I should be able to email. | ||
| The order should be accepted on the first time. | ||
| Why are they, Owen? | ||
| Why are they doing this? | ||
| They're trying to deny him the care that he needs. | ||
| What can be the consequence? | ||
| He could have a fatal bleeding event. | ||
| I mean, this is every day we face this. | ||
| Insurance companies are causing great harm. | ||
| It's so crazy when you hear that. | ||
| And if anybody's maybe been to a private practice or for whatever reason, for me, it's been chiropractors, man, they get fired up about this. | ||
| You know, don't ask a chiropractor about the insurance industry. | ||
| You know, you'll be in there all day. | ||
| What is up with that anyway? | ||
| Is it just money, Dr. McCullough? | ||
| Is it just money at the end of the day? | ||
| It's a simple formula. | ||
| If you're the insurance company, you want to charge the highest premium possible and you want to have the least amount of payout. | ||
| And how the insurance companies restrict their payouts is by prior authorization, using fax machines where the faxes are lost, all these administrative delays. | ||
| The prior authorization approach to have insurance companies approve something that I order, that effectively kills at least half of the doctor's orders for diagnostics and tests. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| So patients need these things, and the insurance company is killing that therapeutic and management step. | ||
| Well, and that's why I go back to what you laid out earlier with this is what you would do if you were in RFK Jr.'s shoes, because it's like, yeah, you do have a litany of issues, right? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So now we have to, now we have to prioritize and we have to sit down with the team and we have to say, okay, can we try to tackle an issue in, say, a week, a month, whatever, whatever it's going to take? | ||
| And then you just lay it out in a two-year, a four-year term, however long you think you're going to be doing this. | ||
| And that's how it needs to be done. | ||
| But it seems like, and this goes beyond just RFK Jr., it just seems like, you know, there's a lot of talk, there's a lot of ideas, and then people get into DC and it just seems like things go by the wayside. | ||
| There's distractions. | ||
| People are waving the white flag. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| We've seen this with more issues than obviously just with RFK Jr. | ||
| But I know that there's a lot of buzz. | ||
| I mean, I talked to some of the, let's say, groups of parents that are really into organics and holistics or alternative medicine. | ||
| I'm in some of these other health nut groups that are just, they try to just avoid the medical establishment altogether. | ||
| But obviously, I talked to your team of doctors at the wellness company and I talked to some other doctors as well. | ||
| It seems though the ideas behind Maha, it seems that the things that we were looking to accomplish, those aren't going away. | ||
| We're still talking about them. | ||
| Doctors are still talking about them. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I mean, they're very active. | ||
| I can tell you, every day I have patients inquiring about, you know, generic, repurposed, or natural approaches to cancer. | ||
| So the National Cancer Institute ought to embark on a major research program regarding repurposed drugs and natural products for the treatment of cancer. | ||
| We're not replacing chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery, but people want to do everything they possibly can. | ||
| And, you know, here we are a year later, the National Cancer Institute, you know, they have one ivermectin trial up and running at Cedar Sina in UCLA. | ||
| Oh, and but I can tell you right now, it's very disappointing. | ||
| I think one of the problems in Washington is we have these bloated agencies. | ||
| I mean, think about the CDC. | ||
| They have a $9 billion budget, 12,000 employees. | ||
| Many are doctors, MDs, PhDs, what have you. | ||
| And they essentially do nothing. | ||
| They don't treat any patients. | ||
| They don't run any hospitals. | ||
| You know, they're providing some guidelines, some in vitro diagnostics. | ||
| Can you imagine a $9 billion budget? | ||
| Most of these people are on Zoom. | ||
| And I guarantee day by day, as I'm seeing patients writing manuscripts, giving lectures, day by day, these people are essentially doing nothing on Zoom. | ||
| 12,000 employees, I think that could be trimmed massively. | ||
| $9 billion could be trimmed. | ||
| But yet we heard recently, Elon Musk came in and he saw this waste, fraud, and abuse. | ||
| They've eliminated Doge. | ||
| Oh, don't get me started on that. | ||
| Don't get me started on that. | ||
| That's a whole nother issue that I don't know if you're, I don't know if you're trying to go into that, folks, but listen up. | ||
| Listen up. | ||
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| You might need something different depending on how old you are, what your current health status is, how many people are in your house. | ||
| Are those kind of the factors you guys weighed when you were deciding what to put in these different medical kits? | ||
| It's true. | ||
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| It's pulsing. | ||
| She's having a lot of pain. | ||
| Are we talking about a splinter right now? | ||
| A splinter, because the splinter tracks in bacteria under the skin. | ||
| And it actually came from a cactus. | ||
| She was moving my daughter's cactus. | ||
| The bottom line is, you know, that would have been an urgent care visit for sure. | ||
| And that would have been over $1,000. | ||
| I told her, listen, soak the finger in salt water, take the antibiotics, use the antibiotic ointment, put a band-aid on. | ||
| She did this for several days. | ||
| The infection was quelled and the sliver worked its way out. | ||
| And literally, without the medical kit, there's no way we would have avoided an urgent care visit. | ||
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| I want to get back to your study on autism. | ||
| Now, this was something that it was kind of a big buildup. | ||
| I think that, you know, RFK Jr., they came out, they made their big report on the vaccine side effects with autism. | ||
| And then they kind of just landed on Tylenol. | ||
| They kind of just ended up pushing the issue with Tylenol or Ibuprofen or astaminophen. | ||
| And it was like all of a sudden we weren't talking about the vaccine anymore. | ||
| What do you think happened there? | ||
| Now, that's not to say that there might not be something there with Tylenol and those other type of pills that might be leading to autism in different stages of young life or pregnancy even. | ||
| But I thought we were talking about vaccines here. | ||
| What happened to that? | ||
| Owen, did you watch the September 22nd, 2025 press conference with Trump and RFK and everybody or see some clips of it? | ||
| Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about where I was expecting something like you've produced. | ||
| And instead, I end up hearing about Tylenol. | ||
| I'm like, Tylenol? | ||
| I mean, that was very disjointed, disorganized. | ||
| I think they were going to tell America that there's concerns regarding excessive vaccination in children and autism. | ||
| And somebody from the vaccine lobbyists came in at the last minute and said, listen, pin it on Tylenol. | ||
| Because Trump came out, he couldn't even pronounce it. | ||
| He goes, acetaminophen wasn't. | ||
| And Trump couldn't stick to this new talking point. | ||
| And so Trump ultimately said, I think we're vaccinating kids too much. | ||
| And you could see the body language with RFK and others that kind of put out this misdirection communication on Tylenol. | ||
| And let me tell you, we consider Tylenol in the McCullough Foundation report. | ||
| Believe me, it's the least of my concerns during pregnancy. | ||
| There are some heavy-duty drugs that could predispose subsequently the baby to autism, but they include antipsychotics, anti-epileptics, heavy antidepressants. | ||
| But the drug's got to be taken every day during pregnancy, and the drug has to influence neuronal function of the developing fetus, not taking a Tylenol dose because you have a headache or something. | ||
| And so immediately, the American College of Obstetrics Gynecology, Pediatrics, and everything, they said, come on, Tylenol is the only safe antipyretic analgesic we can give in pregnancy. | ||
| And there's been a huge study on this by Altquist and colleagues from Sweden. | ||
| 20 years of data, millions of mothers, every Tylenol capsule accounted for. | ||
| And they even had siblings in the same parents where during one pregnancy, the mother took some Tylenol. | ||
| The other pregnancy, she didn't take any Tylenol. | ||
| And the final analysis, Owen, is there's no risks with Tylenol. | ||
| So, you know, RFK and the rest of the HHS staff, they just embarrassed themselves. | ||
| And immediately, myself and other qualified doctors and scientists said, listen, they just shouldn't do that. | ||
| We should have doctors with medical authority in Washington. | ||
| We don't have them right now. | ||
| And if I would have been called in at that press conference, I would have told Trump, no, that's a no-go. | ||
| It's not due to Tylenol. | ||
| So let's not mislead America. | ||
| Well, I almost feel that somewhere it seems like the purpose has been lost, perhaps. | ||
| And it was like, what was the purpose? | ||
| The purpose was, and R.F. Jr. talked about this all the time. | ||
| The purpose was, all right, let's just look at some facts here. | ||
| The United States of America spends the most money on health care and medical, and yet somehow we're the most unhealthy country on earth for a so-called advanced civilization, at least. | ||
| So it's just like, okay, something is wrong there. | ||
| Then you look at the obesity epidemic and you look at the chronic illness, chronic disease epidemic, and it's just like, okay, hold on. | ||
| We need to push pause here. | ||
| We need to focus on what is causing this stuff. | ||
| And you basically have to use deductive reasoning and you say, okay, when did we start doing this? | ||
| Or when did we start doing that? | ||
| Okay, that aligns with when this epidemic broke out. | ||
| That aligns with when obesity started to break out. | ||
| It was like, okay, that was kind of the purpose was like, we're going to unravel all of this and we're going to find the root cause of these issues. | ||
| And sometimes they've addressed it. | ||
| But yeah, and then they have that meeting and it's like, okay, we're going to find the root cause of autism. | ||
| And then they kind of bait and switch us. | ||
| How do we repurpose this so it's not like, all right, we're just going to, we're just going to say, okay, we're going to talk about Tylenol today. | ||
| Or even, hey, we're just going to talk about this vaccine. | ||
| It's like, no, no, no, we need to unravel the entire system and find out the root cause of these things. | ||
| We shouldn't have the obesity epidemic. | ||
| We shouldn't have the chronic disease epidemic. | ||
| And coming out here and saying, okay, Tylenol, that's not going to change anything, doctor. | ||
| Well, what you're calling for is what's called risk factor analysis. | ||
| These are complex illnesses. | ||
| There's multiple different risk factors. | ||
| So for autism, it's clear now that a big bundle of vaccines in a susceptible child is a risk factor for autism. | ||
| How do we reduce the rates of autism? | ||
| Vaccinate less or have healthy people like Owen Schroer take no vaccines from birth. | ||
| That's how we actually eliminate risks of autism and seizures and ticks and attention deficit disorder. | ||
| Now, obesity and diabetes is a separate issue. | ||
| That's much more dietary and fitness. | ||
| And, you know, I have to tell you, the American pediatric and childhood population needs an overhaul in diet. | ||
| And it's hard to change people's dietary choices, but chicken, McNuggets, and fries, there's a direct effect on the child getting obese and developing diabetes. | ||
| Wait a second, that's not the staple of a healthy American diet, doctor? | ||
| It is. | ||
| I tell you, in so many urban populations, it is. | ||
| Oh, and you can see it all over. | ||
| You know, diet is always healthy choices and portion control. | ||
| And there should be fitness. | ||
| Many schools have phased out physical activity classes, physical education. | ||
| You know, we need to, the government doesn't put the spoon in people's mouths. | ||
| People have to make these choices, but they have to understand the majority of diabetes, type 2 diabetes, is being too fat for too long. | ||
| Now, there's been some good news now in the last three years, rates of obesity among adults have curbed and going down. | ||
| I'm seeing this in my practice. | ||
| I'm seeing thinner people, people losing weight. | ||
| It is working, but we've had this big swell of smoking-related diseases in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and then that died down with smoking. | ||
| And then we've had a huge rise in obesity-related diseases, you know, diabetes, sleep apnea, hypertension, joint disease. | ||
| The vast majority of knee pain and knee replacements and hip replacements is actually because of too much weight on the joints. | ||
| You know, that's such an interesting point. | ||
| You don't hear many people bring up is how many of these lower body issues, let's put it, are caused by too much weight on top, right? | ||
| I mean, that's basically, it's pretty simple, but keep it simple, stupid. | ||
| I don't hear anybody say what you just said, doctor. | ||
| I don't hear anybody. | ||
| And I guess, again, you know, for the medical industry, for the insurance industry, this is big money. | ||
| You know, you're coming in getting knee surgeries. | ||
| Hey, baby, you know, we're making money. | ||
| Well, you know, you know, who did mention it recently was the CEO of Lilly. | ||
| So they make one of the oral drugs. | ||
| It's like an oral ozempic. | ||
| And they're doing clinical trials, and they know these drugs can lower weight now. | ||
| And one of the outcomes of a recent registrational trial for this new oral Ozempic drug is actually reducing knee pain. | ||
| So, you know, taking the weight off the knees. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| Are they saying the drug does that? | ||
| Yeah, they're saying the drug does that because weight comes off and knee pain gets better. | ||
| They're trying to show people that they can improve symptomatic outcomes. | ||
| Well, gee, you'd think that you might chalk that up to, yeah, I no longer weigh 350 pounds. | ||
| And so my knee isn't enduring the weight all day long, or even maybe my ass isn't either. | ||
| But I guess that might lead to, that might lead to some different issues there. | ||
| What do you think about those drugs, though? | ||
| I mean, just generally speaking, do you think it's a good thing? | ||
| Do you think it's a bad thing? | ||
| I mean, we want people to be healthier. | ||
| And, you know, if you can lose weight, that can be one of the major factors. | ||
| Is this too good to be true, doctor? | ||
| Or do you think that this is, do you think it's all good? | ||
| We're talking about GLP-1 analogs, Gukugan-like peptide analogs, which have become more sophisticated over time. | ||
| You know, they've been out now for easily a decade. | ||
| They used to be once-a-day injections, and now they're once-a-week injections. | ||
| And the company Novo Nordisk that makes Ozempic, they're the ones that really, really, you know, turned on the gas and came out of the business. | ||
| And that's the European company, right? | ||
| Yeah, they're from Denmark. | ||
| And the point is these drugs clearly curb appetite. | ||
| You take an injection, you just do not want to eat. | ||
| That's the mechanism by which people lose weight. | ||
| They have favorable cardiovascular and renal outcomes of interest. | ||
| And They've got some safety issues that, you know, as doctors were aware of, and, you know, I do prescribe them in obese diabetics, people with heart and kidney disease. | ||
| What we're trying to do is figure out how can the general population safely benefit from these without causing harm or excessive medical costs to the system. | ||
| And we know about 6% of adults are currently taking these drugs right now. | ||
| 15% have actually had them at some point in time, but the average person stays on the injections no more than nine months. | ||
| And so at the wellness company, we've innovated with forms of these peptides in what's called an aquasome or a certain kind of little capsule so it can manage the GI tract. | ||
| And you can actually take these orally in a drop format, not a pill format. | ||
| And the lead product is retitrutide, which is a triple acting ozempic-like drug, but it's in drops. | ||
| And boy, does it work. | ||
| I've had so many patients lose weight. | ||
| I've had one person lose weight, you know, 90 pounds, and it doesn't have the side effect profile of the injections in my clinical experience. | ||
| So this is an innovation. | ||
| We also have semaglutide ozempic, but again, in this unique formulation as a spray. | ||
| So you can just do a couple squirts in the mouth and get control over this. | ||
| These are wonderful products for people to consider. | ||
| You can do this. | ||
| The doctor does approve this from the wellness company, but you can do this without having to see your primary care doctor and have insurance companies involved. | ||
| You don't need a prescription is what you're saying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it's done internally at the wellness company. | ||
| And then the patient can control their own destiny. | ||
| And these are combined with forms of oral capsule supplements as well that kind of rebalance the body's metabolism, curb hunger, and they really do work. | ||
| I mean, I had a patient come in today doing great. | ||
| She was actually on that one you're showing, peak metabolism. | ||
| She had a history of diabetes. | ||
| But, you know, I got to tell you, Owen, if somebody loses five pounds of body fat, already the blood test numbers improve. | ||
| She had lost 18 pounds, and it was night and day in terms of her blood test results, her physical exam. | ||
| So, you know, I am favorable to these more naturopathic, self-control, you know, self-controlled, self-regulated approaches. | ||
| We will use the prescription drugs in heavy-duty cases, but I think there's a limit to how many people can take the prescription injections. | ||
| A recent paper in JAMA indicated that maybe 50% of all Americans should be on Ozempic shots. | ||
| I think it's too high. | ||
| Well, and then, you know, blood health is a whole nother topic of conversation that we don't need to get into today. | ||
| But, you know, it's funny when I'm hearing you because I didn't, I mean, I didn't look into the actual effects or what, why the GLP-1 peptides work. | ||
| I kind of just look at more of the news stuff when it pops up in the news and I see it. | ||
| And it's funny when you say, well, it's just essentially it's making you lose your appetite, right? | ||
| It's making you stop eating. | ||
| And it's so funny to hear you say that because so many things, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I think so many things when you think about your own health or just general health practices, it's like so much of it is intuitive, right? | ||
| It's like, I need to eat better. | ||
| I need to sleep better. | ||
| You know, I need to exercise, right? | ||
| It's like, it's just duh. | ||
| So much of this stuff is just so intuitive. | ||
| But it's funny. | ||
| You know, I've got friends. | ||
| I've got friends and they work out a lot or I've got friends at the gym and they see me and I'm pretty lean, Doc. | ||
| You know, I don't know what my body fat is, but I'm guessing it's definitely in the single digits. | ||
| And they'll ask me and they'll say, hey, you know, I kind of got this stubborn belly fat and I kind of, you know, I can't really get that cut that I'm looking for. | ||
| And I just, you know, I ask them, I'm saying, well, what's your diet? | ||
| And they're like, oh, I eat a lot. | ||
| I'm like, well, there it is. | ||
| I'm like, it's literally, if you want to lose weight, you have to stop eating. | ||
| And so I get it. | ||
| It kind of sounds, it sounds nonsensical to say, hey, stop eating. | ||
| It's like, well, you have to eat, obviously. | ||
| But it's just true. | ||
| Fasting is healthy for you. | ||
| If you do a 24-hour fast, I mean, I've done, I did a 72-hour fast once. | ||
| You'll lose, you can lose five pounds like that. | ||
| And if you, and if you stay healthy and stay exercising, you can keep that weight off. | ||
| So it's just true. | ||
| Sometimes you just got to stop eating or eat a lot less. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And, you know, reconnecting with your hunger. | ||
| Hunger should be a good sensation. | ||
| You should be hungry going into your meals. | ||
| I have some obese patients, Owen. | ||
| They say they haven't felt hunger in years, in years. | ||
| So you're right. | ||
| It's good to feel hunger. | ||
| Now, of interest, these drugs, the GLP-1 agonists like Ozempic, they do have some metabolic effects in the body. | ||
| And we know this because when body fat is lost, just through diet alone, it's about 75% fat that's lost and 25% of muscle. | ||
| But with Ozempic, the injections, it's about 60% loss of fat, 40% of muscle. | ||
| And so there has some effect on the muscles that we're not crazy about. | ||
| And we're talking about the injectable Ozempic, Wagovi, Zepbound, Mongero, those four. | ||
| And so you've heard the term probably Ozempic face, where someone's face changes. | ||
| They actually lose the muscles, the masseter muscles, and the body changes. | ||
| And it's very hard to get back muscle mass. | ||
| Owen, that's the reason why I don't think everybody should go on this. | ||
| Did you see Serena Williams? | ||
| There's a commercial, the tennis player, where she lost 36 pounds taking Ozempic shots. | ||
| I got to tell you what, for an athlete, I do not advise that. | ||
| It's going to be very hard for her to get that muscle back. | ||
| So that's what we're talking about here. | ||
| We're talking about not just sacrificing the bad weight, but the good weight as well. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's more so with the GLP-1 agonists. | ||
| Now, we think with the drop formats and the spray formats we have at Wellness Company, we're giving such a low dose. | ||
| We're still getting that, taking the edge off hunger, but not getting that deep metabolic effect. | ||
| But it's important as you lose weight to not only make healthy choices, reduce portion control, reconnect with your hunger, but also do aerobic and strength training. | ||
| I have patients losing weight where I tell them to lift weights because as the muscle mass increases in the body, there's greater and more efficient utilization of glucose and free fatty acid. | ||
| So everything gets better with exercise, both aerobic and strength. | ||
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| Well, and you just said it too. | ||
| And I guess it depends on what you're looking for. | ||
| But for somebody like me who's been in, you know, I've been into weight training and fitness for decades now. | ||
| You learn, it's like, okay, am I trying to get size? | ||
| Am I trying to get lean? | ||
| And then you learn, okay, these are the exercises I need to do. | ||
| So it's all about catering your diet and your exercise routine for the results that you're looking for. | ||
| But obviously, like you said, you don't want to sacrifice long term if you don't have to. | ||
| And there might be a situation where you'd say, okay, we're going to put you on the weight loss drugs because you're kind of in an extreme situation. | ||
| But like you said, for somebody like an athlete like Serena Williams, it's like, you're probably better off taking the time. | ||
| You know, you're probably better off taking the time to do this the right way because of your actual outstanding fitness in the past. | ||
| You can get back to that faster without taking the shortcut and costing yourself the good muscle, the good weight. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| I don't know if she did that for the commercial or not, but I don't advise it. | ||
| I hope none of the pro athletes in the NFL or anywhere else is doing it. | ||
| I personally wouldn't take the shots. | ||
| I'm like you. | ||
| I just do it through diet and exercise. | ||
| And we do want to, you know, it's been said, Owen, it's a lean horse for a long race. | ||
| If you want to live a good lung life, run your body weight lean. | ||
| It's very important. | ||
| It should be a personal goal of everyone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it really just comes with a healthy lifestyle. | ||
| And if you're eating the right things, you don't have to do too much. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| You just have to eat the right things, get the right exercise routine, and you can maintain good health. | ||
| You don't have to look like a professional bodybuilder or a model or an athlete, but you can take care of yourself. | ||
| And I've learned this too. | ||
| And I always tell young guys this that I see at the gym. | ||
| You know, when you're, it's so much easier when you're young, right? | ||
| And it's not like I'm, it's not like I'm cracking some secret code here, but it's so much easier when you're young. | ||
| And if you can build, if, you know, for young people listening to this, if you can build a healthy foundation when you're young, that will benefit you so much into the future. | ||
| Because I've got, you know, some friends that for the first 30 years of their lives basically were pretty inactive, right? | ||
| They were pretty inactive. | ||
| And now they're looking at themselves. | ||
| They're 30 and they're thinking, hey, I want to change something. | ||
| I want to lose weight. | ||
| I want to get stronger. | ||
| I've got these goals I want to reach. | ||
| But if you're just trying to start that journey at 30, it is going to be so much more difficult to do that. | ||
| Whereas if you started at 20, maybe make some bad health decisions down the road. | ||
| But if you started at 20 to try to rekindle that in your 30s and 40s, it is so much easier. | ||
| I don't know the science behind that, doctor. | ||
| I'm sure there's some science behind that. | ||
| No, I'm glad you mentioned it. | ||
| It's called the base. | ||
| You can actually have a base of fitness that you can carry through life. | ||
| And so there's been studies, believe it or not, of the Swedish army. | ||
| This is fascinating. | ||
| And they actually very accurately measured the fitness of young people in the Swedish army. | ||
| And then 50 years later, asked the question, where they are. | ||
| And the point is, if they had fitness at a young age, they did tend to carry it through life. | ||
| They certainly had much fewer medical problems, much lower rates of diabetes, et cetera. | ||
| And that's the reason why I'm a big proponent of young people nowadays actually having fitness as part of their life. | ||
| So many kids are into virtual reality and now artificial intelligence on the phone. | ||
| And at some point in time, it's good to put that down. | ||
| Just go run. | ||
| I'm in Dallas. | ||
| Tomorrow, I'm going to go run the turkey trot, go downtown, get out there, run. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, you know, then I'll see my mom for Thanksgiving. | ||
| You know, we have to move. | ||
| We have to move our bodies. | ||
| I always forget that you're a competitive runner, Doc. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, I built a base. | ||
| I ran marathons for many years. | ||
| I ran a marathon in every state in the country. | ||
| My son ran for Baylor. | ||
| My son followed my footsteps. | ||
| He's ranked in the world in the half Ironman for a few years. | ||
| But we both built decent bases when we were young. | ||
| So, you know, at one point in time, my weight was higher and I was able to bring it down. | ||
| It's exactly what you said. | ||
| That does occur in life. | ||
| So all the young people, a lot of people follow Owen Schroer. | ||
| A lot of young people follow you. | ||
| Get out there and build that base of aerobic and strength fitness. | ||
| And I feel like I was kind of my generation. | ||
| I'm 36. | ||
| We were kind of in that like middle zone. | ||
| And maybe it was smartphones that changed everything. | ||
| Because me and my friends, we love to play video games. | ||
| We'd sit in the basement for hours playing video games, doing overnights, whatever, eating junk food. | ||
| But that was after we played football, you know, tackle football outside. | ||
| That was after we went down to the park and played tennis or basketball or jumped on the trampoline all day. | ||
| We always had physical activity first. | ||
| And then at the end of the day, it seemed that that's kind of when we would get glued into the video games. | ||
| I'm wondering if there's not, I don't know if it's smartphones. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| And maybe it's the kind of the addiction to, I don't know, maybe there's an addiction to this technology, but it seems like, I mean, they're cutting physical fitness from the schools. | ||
| Parks are like empty these days. | ||
| Parks, you go to a park on a Saturday 20 years ago, you know, you can't even find a bench. | ||
| Now it's like parks are empty. | ||
| I don't know if there's, I don't know if there's something we can point to that says this is what's causing it, but it does seem that kids just aren't as active these days. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I think a big part of it is ADHD, attention deficit, hyperactivity disorder, and autism. | ||
| Those are skyrocketing. | ||
| And 201, those kids don't gravitate towards sports. | ||
| They really don't. | ||
| They gravitate to cell phones, computers, isolated activities. | ||
| Owen, you know, while we're sitting here talking, I have to ask you a personal question. | ||
| I've been thinking about this so long. | ||
| You said you took dozens of supplements. | ||
| You know, what were you taking for a while that made your beard grow so long? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That one came naturally. | ||
| I've got some family members that have had some pretty big beards. | ||
| Because I got to tell you what, you're doing great in the hair and beard department, but some people aren't so lucky. | ||
| Wellness company has got a system. | ||
| It's called roots. | ||
| Roots are both oral capsules and then there's a peptide stimulant. | ||
| Is there biotin in there? | ||
| Yeah, bring up roots if your team can bring it up. | ||
| Yeah, I got it. | ||
| It's so useful. | ||
| So you rub in the lotion into your scalp and where the hair is getting thin. | ||
| And what we do at the wellness company, we always load the products with multiple ingredients. | ||
| So it's not one thing. | ||
| So get the capsules and get the lotion. | ||
| These are high-end products. | ||
| So you want to take advantage of the sale. | ||
| I have so many patients and people doing roots, and they're so satisfied with this in kind of regrowing the hair. | ||
| Once your hair is thicker and more dense, it tends to stay that way. | ||
| But the main thing is don't lose any more hair. | ||
| So all the followers of Owen who kind of, you know, aspire to have a head of hair and a beard like Owen has, get roots. | ||
| So a lot of this is already, yeah, a lot of this is already cooked into kind of my supplement routine. | ||
| But I will say biotin is one. | ||
| You're getting plenty of it here. | ||
| Biotin is definitely one that will help you with beard and hair growth for sure. | ||
| Very well studied. | ||
| I highly recommend biotin. | ||
| And it looks like you've got some of the good oils in here too. | ||
| I have like, I don't wash my hair too much, but I will say that getting the right hair routine is very important for me right now. | ||
| I've got the longer hair going. | ||
| I've got like five different types of shampoos or conditioners. | ||
| I don't do it every day, but once you kind of get it down to a science, it's like, all right, I do this one once a week or I do this one twice a month or I do this one, you know, at night before bed, whatever. | ||
| That's kind of been my hair care reason. | ||
| Well, that's your secret to the Brad Pitt like hair. | ||
| Owen, what's the frequency you wash your hair? | ||
| What would you guess? | ||
| Did I wash my hair? | ||
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| I'd say five times a week, probably. | ||
| Honestly, if you ask me, I think it's too much. | ||
| The trend is. | ||
| Well, that's not all shampoo. | ||
| That's not all shampoo. | ||
| So it'll probably be shampoo two times a week, conditioner once or twice a week, and then there's an organic oil that I'll put in my. | ||
| So it's not all shampoo. | ||
| It's like twice shampoo, twice conditioner, and then once an organic oil complex. | ||
| I mean, the trend is the thought is we may be over washing our hair and washing out a lot of the oils and a lot of the natural, you know, the hair has its own kind of ecosystem. | ||
| And by washing it over and over again. | ||
| So, you know, over time, I'm down to about once every five or six days now. | ||
| My wife, who's got a huge head of hair and really thick, you know, she's about once every two weeks, believe it or not. | ||
| Well, and that's kind of, it goes along with all the other propaganda that we see with this stuff. | ||
| It's like, you need it every day. | ||
| You need it every day. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| And in fact, humans somehow survive for thousands of years without it even once. | ||
| So it's like, well, you'll probably get by. | ||
| Well, that's a good observation. | ||
| Let me ask you another one since we're on personal questions. | ||
| Do you wear shoes and socks in the house or do you go bare feet? | ||
| Well, Dr. I could, I could answer that question right now, but I'm not going to show my bare feet on air. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, there you go, everybody. | ||
| You know, there's a real trend to foot health, and that is going bare feet. | ||
| And some people call it grounding. | ||
| It may be actually good for the mind. | ||
| So many of us Anglo people like myself grew up Irish, German, Polish, in the United States. | ||
| I think a lot of us grew up on dirt floors and we were told to, you know, wear socks and shoes in the house. | ||
| It turns out. | ||
| Potato farmer over here. | ||
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| No, Owen, I'm serious. | ||
| And it turns out it was bad advice. | ||
| So my wife taught me this. | ||
| She goes, I've never worn shoes and socks. | ||
| Go bare feet. | ||
| Let the bottom of your feet get thicker. | ||
| And, you know, the foot has like 18 muscles in it. | ||
| It has to be exercised by going bare feet. | ||
| And problems like plantar fasciitis and all these other problems tend to go away. | ||
| You know, these poor women get hammer toes and all the bunions. | ||
| None of that should really happen. | ||
| The foot should be natural. | ||
| The foot should be natural and much wider than what a lot of people think. | ||
| You know, and for you who has spent countless hours running, I'm sure you kind of dealt with the toe issue. | ||
| I had, you know, I was somebody that was playing a lot of basketball in my late 20s, early 30s. | ||
| That was kind of my go-to sport. | ||
| And I started to notice that, you know, the more time I spent in those shoes, my toes started to get a little more compressed. | ||
| And if you've seen it, you know, if you've seen any of these NBA players' toes, they look like, you know, they're straight out of like an alien sci-fi. | ||
| So I got one of these toe spacers. | ||
| I started using these toe spacers. | ||
| It's improved my gait. | ||
| It's improved my walk so much. | ||
| Now I can actually see the space in between my toes. | ||
| It's very important. | ||
| So you've got the grounding angle of it. | ||
| You've got the spacing of the toes. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of this stuff, you just kind of go back to the natural human roots. | ||
| You know, you just kind of go back to what humans have been doing forever, especially if you run in cleats a lot. | ||
| That was a problem I had when I was younger playing soccer when I would run in cleats a lot. | ||
| And I think that that's when I don't know if that, I don't know if you would call it the plantar fasciitis, but that bottom of your foot would start to get a little tight because your toes and your foot would get used to walking on spikes and then you'd take it off and you'd have to kind of change your gait, change your stride. | ||
| And that can mess up, you know, that can mess, that can kind of mess things up a little bit. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And, you know, I mentioned my son ran for Baylor. | ||
| And now a lot of running programs, they have barefoot workouts. | ||
| So you just run bare feet. | ||
| Years of Oregon started it. | ||
| I read a book years ago that really influenced me. | ||
| It was called Born to Run. | ||
| And it was about this guy who is taken into some Indian tribes down in central Mexico. | ||
| And he's a big time runner. | ||
| And he just started running bare feet With these really thin sandals and get foot strength. | ||
| And he basically said that the running shoe industry, just like big pharma, it kind of gets you hooked. | ||
| So once you wear a cushiony running shoe, then you want another one and then you want more cushion and it just keeps going and going. | ||
| And I personally developed plantar fasciitis a while ago and I completely solved it. | ||
| It took a long time, but I always have a period of going bare feet in the house. | ||
| I think it's very helpful. | ||
| You don't get blisters when your feet are nice and thick on the bottom, which they should be. | ||
| I started doing my heavy lifting bare feet and it definitely made a difference with that too. | ||
| That was something I saw get recommended. | ||
| And I was like, okay, I'll try it. | ||
| So you might feel a little goofy with no shoes at the gym, but it works out and it actually catches on as a trend. | ||
| Well, Dr. McCullough, you got people now asking me to share my male beauty routine. | ||
| So thank you for that. | ||
| I'm going to have to drop a video now on the male beauty routine. | ||
| But actually, no, it's not good. | ||
| I was actually going to, before we sign off, we're out of time here. | ||
| I kind of look like Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer today. | ||
| I got this blemish on my nose. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| The skincare routine is having a bit of a hiccup today. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Can Theroblue take that out? | ||
| I'm going to test it. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| What you want there is you want the topical ivermectin product. | ||
| That's what's called rosacea. | ||
| I just have a little bit of that, and it's perfect for that. | ||
| You know, people suffering with acne, the red-nose rosacea, it's actually FDA approved for that. | ||
| So look for our topical ivermectin product. | ||
| It's perfectly safe. | ||
| Oh, we'll make sure the company gets you some. | ||
| Is it Theroblue? | ||
| Are you talking about Theroblue? | ||
| No, no, it's topical ivermectin. | ||
| So it's a different product. | ||
| Theroblue is different. | ||
| I have to mention that. | ||
| I'm using Theroblue right now on my knees. | ||
| That has a peptide in it. | ||
| It's got about 11 ingredients, including methylene blue. | ||
| Wow, my knees feel great. | ||
| I wasn't having knee pain, but I felt old and my knees felt old. | ||
| And I've been using that. | ||
| Just use it every day. | ||
| I put it on after the shower today, and it's a winner. | ||
| Thera blue for the joints and then for the skin and the acne rosacea ivermectin cream, all at the wellness company. | ||
| Yeah, it says uh clear skin ivermectin cream. | ||
| I'm assuming that that is. | ||
| Yeah, that's what you want, Owen. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you're too good looking to go long too long like this. | ||
| So I know it's, it's especially when you're on camera every day. | ||
| Luckily, it's a Thanksgiving holiday. | ||
| So the Rudolph the Red-Nose Reindeer look is, I only have to suffer through a couple broadcasts with the red nose look going on here. | ||
| Well, we got to almost everything I wanted to cover today. | ||
| Perhaps we can share some of the other conversations I wanted to have with you for a later date. | ||
| Dr. McCullough, always great to catch up to you. | ||
| Thank you for your time today. | ||
| And we hope you and your family have a great Thanksgiving. | ||
| Everybody tuned into this having a great Thanksgiving. | ||
| It's one of those times we'll let you eat as much as you want. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We're not going to judge you this Thanksgiving. | ||
| Eat it all. | ||
| Thanks. |
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