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OSL 113.2 - RETURN FROM DARKNESS

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owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		So we're back.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I have switched to a different internet.
		I can already see the connection is better.
		It has this little bar in my production center that shows internet connection.
		So it really doesn't make any sense why my connection would ever be weak.
		I literally have, I mean, you know, you pay for the best internet, and then it's like, apparently it's weak.
		Can't find a signal.
		But I told you some videos I upload on X. I actually have multiple internet connections in my house for this exact reason.
		And I isolate.
		Normally I isolate this studio on a completely separate internet.
		And then I have a different internet downstairs.
		And then I have a third internet to connect to wirelessly.
		I know it's crazy.
		The deal that they had to set up for me was not a fun negotiation.
		So anyway, all of that to say, I'm now on a completely different internet connection.
		Now, what's ironic is I'm actually on a Wi-Fi now.
		And somehow I'm getting a better connection on this Wi-Fi that should be the crappiest Wi-Fi.
		I'll leave it at that.
		You can make your assumptions versus the top speed internet that I have hardwired into my computer.
		And now I'm on the lowest end of Wi-Fi and somehow getting a better connection.
		So whatever.
		My house internet is, my hardwire is out, shut down in the middle of a live stream.
		So here's what we're going to do.
		I was actually about to close out my monologue, if you will.
		I was about to close it out and open up the phone lines.
		So it kind of sucks that now we're going to have two separate streams, the last one that gets cut abruptly, and then this one where I'm taking calls to the content in the last stream.
		So I have to assume that people were tuned in to my last stream on X and on Rumble so that you can actually address the things that I was saying.
		But hopefully this one will be good to go.
		So here's the final conclusion, and then we're opening up phone lines.
		No, guys, there's no equipment problems.
		Everything in this studio is up to par, fully functional.
		We have some weird tech glitches sometimes because I do some weird end arounds, just electric engineering in here to kind of do end around some otherwise hoops you have to jump through to stream.
		But we're going to open up the phone line.
		So here's my final point.
unidentified		You are what you eat or you are what eats you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So because we've become so consumed in the Middle East or consumed by the Middle East or consumed the Middle East, we are now becoming the Middle East politically.
		And all of our debate now, the biggest political debate now is radical Islam and Jews and you see it everywhere and Israel influence and all.
		And now we have to have and now we have to have our iron dome.
		Now we have to have our own golden dome in case we get hit with missiles.
		So we are now becoming the Middle East.
		So because of our ties to the Middle East, because of our loyalties to the Middle East or hatred for the Middle East, whatever it is, you are what you eat.
		You are what eats you.
		We have now become the Middle East, folks.
		And now we have to deal with the same holy war between Jews and Muslims.
		And now we have to sit here in the crosshairs and the crossfire of Jewish propaganda and Muslim propaganda 24-7.
		We're more invested in the Middle East.
		It's the most Middle East invested administration ever.
		And so now we have to deal with Middle East politics and now maybe even Middle East lifestyle that we have to put up a golden dome to protect ourselves from missile strikes, something that's never happened here, something that should never happen here.
		But now here we are.
		You are what you eat.
		You are what eats you.
		America is now the Middle East.
		We are now in the Middle East politics.
		And we have to build a missile defense system over our country because of it.
		It's sad.
		It's tragic.
		But that's where we're at.
unidentified		It's undeniable.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What do you see in the streets?
		Do you see marches with an American flag?
		No, you see a Palestinian flag.
		What do you see in Congress?
		Israeli flags.
		Where are your congressmen right now?
		They're in the Middle East.
		What's the biggest political issue?
		What dominates the political discourse?
		Israel, the Middle East, Palestine, the Gaza Strip.
		Radical Islam versus Israel.
		Where's America in this picture?
		Where do Americans fit into this?
		You're under the golden dome because now that Middle East politics dominates your country, you now have to live under a missile defense system.
		That's where you're at, American.
unidentified		That's where you're at.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And it sucks.
		But you are what you eat.
		You are what eats you.
		So now we need a golden dome, folks.
		We are so overly invested in the Middle East.
		Middle East politics has now taken over our country and our political discourse.
		So now, now, what's in it for Americans?
		You have to now live under a golden dome.
		You now have to live like the Israelis under a golden dome because now people want to missile strike you.
		And the worst of all the realizations, aside from the Middle East politics of it, the worst of all realizations is this, folks.
		When they build that golden dome, they are going to fucking use it.
		You understand?
		They're not building it for fun.
		They're not building it as a flex.
		They're not building it because it's trendy.
		They're building it because they're going to fucking use it.
		They're either going to have to or they already plan to.
		Do you understand?
		You are what you eat.
		You are what eats you.
		We have now become the Middle East.
		We can no longer live in peace.
		And now we have to live under a missile defense system because of it.
		And it breaks my heart for future Americans.
		It breaks my heart that this is where we've gone under this administration.
		And maybe we should have seen it coming after the vaccines.
		Sad.
		Sad.
		So if you want to see the full monologue, go back to the old Rumble stream or you can go back to the X stream before this.
		I'm on a different internet connection now, so I think we should be good.
		But if it shuts down again, then it's total confirmed a hack.
		But we should be live.
		We have to get out of this now, folks.
		If we don't get out of this now, we're just, it's bad.
		There are future generations of Americans who will have to be going into bunkers and watching missiles get blasted at them.
		That's why they're building the golden dome because we've now become the Middle East.
		You are what you eat.
		You are what eats you.
		They can't have peace in the Middle East.
		Now we can't have peace here.
		It's really sad.
		Phone lines are open, 747-255-60.
		One line, you're on the air.
		As soon as I pick up, I just ask you your name and where you're from, but you're on air.
		So first caller of the night, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		This is Keaton in Arizona.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Keaton, go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, Owen, last time I talked to you, we were talking about a little bit about theology.
		And I would just stress again that these Christian Zionist types are total heretics, right?
		And I actually would like to see Trump get impeached.
		And I'd like to see Vance get in there because I know he's Catholic and he's not going to buy this whole, you know, being at the wailing wall.
		Unfortunately, I know there's already a picture of him doing it, but it's like, it's just so disgusting to see these fake Christians over there basically just desecrating what Christ did for us and just totally going along with these heretics.
		I mean, it's totally insane.
		It's like, is this Christian Zionist heresy really going to destroy our country?
		Like, this is just totally insane.
		I just don't understand anymore.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's where it's going.
		It looks like our fate is now going to be permanently tied to Israel, and it's extremely depressing.
		Aside from the theology angle of it, just from a raw political angle, from a raw future of America angle, it's depressing.
		Were you tuned in earlier when I talked about my views on Christianity?
unidentified		No, unfortunately, the stream cut short.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So what I was saying is that my interpretation, because I don't like watching people say, hey, you worship a Jew.
		Jesus was a Jew.
		It's Judeo-Christian and all this other garbage.
		I don't buy that.
		That's not my interpretation.
		My interpretation is, and this is why, if this is the interpretation, this is why Israel can't be involved in American politics.
		So they can't have this interpretation understood.
		My interpretation is that the new covenant or Jesus Christ represents that the Jews are not God's chosen people.
		That was the whole point is that Jesus said everybody is God's chosen people.
		Any human can find the way, the truth, and the life through me, Jesus Christ.
		Any human can come to God no matter where they are, Jew or Gentile, everybody is God's chosen people, not the Jews.
		So that was part of the, that was, that was part of the purpose of Jesus.
		And then the final, the final argument, if you will, was, I will show you who's really in power, and I will literally, you will literally watch them kill me.
		You will literally watch them nail me on a cross and kill me.
		Okay?
		It's not the Romans.
		It's not the people.
		It's not Pontius Pilate.
		It was literally the Jews of that time.
		And so what they do, he questioned their power.
		He stood up to their power.
		He stood up to their religious supremacy.
		And he said, you are not the chosen people.
		Everyone is chosen people.
		This is God's new covenant.
		And you watch, they will kill me for telling you this.
		And then they did.
		And so that's my interpretation.
		And the other thing is, I love them trying to get us to buy into this Muslim hatred.
		Okay?
		And I'm not going to fall for any of the hatred.
		I don't hate Jews.
		I don't hate Muslims.
		I don't hate anybody.
		Okay?
		But when I sit here and I see them, oh, you know, this Muslims and Islamists, actually, have you read the Quran?
		Because the Quran is essentially the same thing as the New Testament.
		In case you didn't know that.
		In fact, many of it is literally word for word, verse for verse, the New Testament in the Quran.
		Now, am I telling you Islam is your ally?
		No.
		Am I telling you, I'm just telling you the truth.
		So, no, the interpretation for me is that Jesus came here to expose religious supremacy, expose how the Jews were running the entire political system.
		And then the final act was that you watched, they will kill me for it.
		And then they did.
		So that's my interpretation of Jesus.
		That's my interpretation of Christianity is that, no, everyone is God's chosen people.
		The synagogue of Satan is destroyed by the death of Jesus Christ.
		And now everybody can get to God.
		It's not for a select group of people.
		That's my interpretation of Christianity.
		That's my interpretation of Jesus Christ.
unidentified		And I agree with you, Owen.
		And I think, unfortunately, this really needs to be one of our main talking points because right now it's not.
		And I know you don't like to get into it on your show, but it's like, well, Christ is the answer.
		And he's the answer to all of these problems.
		And we can't have these heretics leading us into destruction.
		They have the completely wrong interpretation of scripture.
		They're totally worshiping a different Jesus, you could really argue.
		And yes, when Jesus was on the cross, the reason why his hands were drawn out is because he's calling all nations to him, right?
		He's not just calling the Jews to him.
		So yes, you are right.
		And it just really makes me really sick to my stomach to see so-called Christians over there worshiping the people who crucified our Lord.
		It's disgusting.
		And when Mark Levin says, oh, if a thousand U.S. Army soldiers die or whoever, that's like 10,000 Jews dying.
		No, it's not.
		Dude, that's disgusting.
		That's literally disgusting.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hate to have to be redundant because I covered all of this in the first hour, which the internet kicked down.
		And now we've had to start the second stream with the callers.
		But yeah, I addressed a lot of that in the first hour with the loyalty issues, which I understand.
		And, you know, let me just kind of, I'll push back on this a little bit, only to say that, you know, just like we see these Christian Zionists and just like we see a lot of Zionists or even just Jews in general, you know, we have to understand they're under psychological warfare attacks too.
		They're under brainwashing, mind control war tactics as well.
		So, you know, that's why I don't like to lump anybody into this or call anybody my enemy just for existing because everybody's under psychological warfare.
		Everybody's under a false pretense of beliefs.
		Everybody's under a false history of presentation.
		And so, you know, everybody's in a psyop in one way, shape, or form.
		So, You know, trying to break down the barriers is going to be tough, but there's no doubt to get to the issue of the first hour, there is a loyalty issue when it comes to Israel.
		And Christians have been tricked.
		Many Christian Zionists have been tricked into believing that their loyalty has to be in Israel just because they're Christians.
		And that's not true.
		That's a lie.
		If you're an American, your loyalty is in America.
		Your chosen land given to you by God is in America.
		You need to be grateful and be thanking God for America, not for Israel.
		Not for Israel.
		There's no connection that you have to Israel for Jewish Americans that are dual citizens or Israeli Americans, dual citizens, and they're Jewish and that's their holy land.
		I understand that loyalty.
		I'm not a part of it.
		I have no loyalty to Israel.
		Couldn't care less.
		But those that do, I understand that.
		It's like why I wear a St. Louis Cardinal shirt to a Texas Rangers game.
		It's because I'm from St. Louis.
		Am I in Texas now?
		Am I at the Rangers game?
		Yeah, but I'm from St. Louis.
		I'm a Cardinal loyalist.
		So I understand the loyalty problems and I understand how the Christian Zionists have been tricked into believing this.
		But no, your holy land is America.
		You are so, God has gifted you what was once the freest country, most prosperous country on earth.
		This is what we have been gifted.
		This is our manifest destiny.
		This is our holy land.
		We are God's chosen people, not in Israel.
unidentified		Hey, if only our politicians could get on board, right?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're going to have to.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		They're going to have to.
unidentified		They're going to have to.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I'll tell you what.
		If I'm looking big picture here, I think they're going to have to do something desperate.
		I think they planned on us getting into a big war around 2030.
		Once they got the Golden Dome built, they knew they were going to start a world war.
		They're always planning on starting a world war.
		So they're building the Golden Dome, expecting for us to start having to endure missile strikes like Israel has to, because that's what we're being drug into now.
		That's what we're attached to the hip.
		But they did not anticipate the people of this country ready to totally abandon Israel before that.
		So now, what are they going to do?
		The American people are ready to totally abandon Israel.
		The American people want nothing, they want nothing to do with Israel anymore.
		And the fact that the DHS had to pretend like they didn't put that Israel discrimination passage into the disaster relief literature, what are you talking about?
		We have it.
		We literally have the thing that says you have to be loyal to Israel to get disaster relief.
		By the way, that's a state law in Texas, a state law in Florida, and 20 other states.
		Okay?
		So the fact that they had to have an about face and say, okay, we're getting rid of the Israeli loyalty for disaster relief, it shows you that America is going to be ready to completely politically abandon Israel before the Golden Dome is built.
		So what are they going to do to try to correct that timetable?
		That's the scary thought.
unidentified		It is.
		And especially when you have these really radical, fervent Zionists who are going to be leading that charge.
		And unfortunately, they have all of our supposedly Christian politicians willing to lead that charge with them.
		That's why after I saw that this morning, that Trump was going to violate our First Amendment right to criticize Israel like that.
		I'm like, you know what?
		Get him out of there.
		He's totally lost his way.
		We can't trust him anymore.
		I'm like, Trump, I impeach you, man.
		This is disgusting.
		That is disgusting.
		And seeing the images coming out of Gaza with that retired Green Beret that Tucker had on his show, it just breaks my heart.
		I'm like, how can these supposedly Christian Speaker Johnson go over there and kiss this heretical wall?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, that looked like a hostage.
		He looked like a hostage, didn't he?
		He did not look comfortable.
		And that's either because he's forced to do it.
		He's either forced to do it for blackmail or he's forced to do it for political reasons, even though he knows Americans are sick of it.
		He did not want to do that video, but he had to.
		He looked like a pathetic small man.
unidentified		Well, and I think it's really interesting how, of course, they're just going to skip over the Christian villages.
		They're like, oh, let's go to the Whalen Wall, but you know what?
		We don't need to go look at the war crimes.
		It's okay.
		Actually, Daddy Trump, actually, if you could silence the American people, that would be better.
		And it's just like, I totally agree with you, Owen.
		Within the next election cycle, if our politicians aren't anti-Israel, they're just probably not going to get elected because the American people are over it.
		They're sick of it.
		And it's our generation who's kind of leading that charge because, you know, I'm a Lyft driver.
		And when I get boomers in my car, I'm very nice to them.
		We're very cordial, but I mean, they love Israel.
		They just love it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's definitely a generational thing.
unidentified		Yes, it is.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But every time I say that, every time I say that, I get older generation people and boomer people come out.
		I'm not making a blanket statement.
		All right.
		So not a blanket statement, but by the numbers, but by the numbers, it's mostly an older generational thing.
unidentified		Yeah, and it sucks because Trump kind of falls in that.
unidentified		He kind of represents this Christian Zionist gerontocracy that it needs to go.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what, I think Trump made a major mismeasurement.
		Thank you for the call, Keaton.
		I think Trump made a major mismeasurement.
		Trump obviously has some loyalty or something with Israel, right?
		And whether that's through his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, or whether that's through political donations, or whether that's he's found his own heart, his own special place in his heart for Israel.
		I don't know.
		But obviously, Trump has something ties him to Israel.
		Something is making him turn this administration to the most pro-Israel administration we've ever had when we voted for pro-America.
		Now, I think part of the reason why Trump is so frustrated right now is he did expect all-out loyalty from his base.
		He really did.
		He expected he would get nothing but loyalty over from his base after everything he's been through, but he didn't realize that this base, his base is not a bunch of loyalists.
		His base is not a bunch of yes men.
		His base is not a bunch of people that are just going to start lining up to cheer on politicians, not even in the slightest.
		So I think he mismeasured the fact that he could probably do all of this stuff and still get the support from his base.
		But yeah, you've got Candace Owens and a lot of people now calling for his impeachment.
		You've got now people on the right basically sounding like people on the left did about Trump for the first four years.
		So I think that Trump has severely mismeasured the Israel issue.
		And now he's kind of reaping the whirlwind of it.
		And it's frustrating him because he either just mismeasured it or doesn't understand it.
		But now, what is he going to do?
		And this is where it gets kind of interesting.
		Aside from what are they going to do when the Golden Dome gets into place?
		Well, what is Trump going to do?
		You know, Trump is a guy with a big ego, and that's fine.
		Sometimes there's certain jobs in life you got to have an ego for, probably like me.
		So I don't mean that as an insult, but I mean that to say now that Trump has seen a lot of his base turn on him, now that Trump has seen a lot of people get outright vitriolic towards him on Israel, what is he going to do?
		Because the only way to save his reputation now is to abandon Israel.
		And anybody telling him otherwise is feeding him bad information.
		And it's the same people that have been feeding him information for the last six months that have wound up in his tanking approval rating.
		So the only way for him to actually save his reputation at this point amongst the American people is to abandon Israel.
		And it doesn't have to be, you know, it doesn't have to be brash or rude.
		Just say, hey, look, you know, we've helped Israel.
		We've done a lot for them.
		They've been our ally, but we're severing these ties.
		We're leaving them independent to deal with their business in the Middle East.
		And you know what?
		We got a lot of problems here.
		I think Israel can solve its own problems, but it's time for me to just focus on American politics and figure out how I can fix America.
		And just softland it like that.
		But if he doesn't and he decides that he's going to turn on his supporters even more, then certainly he realizes his legacy is totally tarnished.
		And I don't think he wants that.
		I think he wants a Sterling legacy.
		I think he wants a legacy of an American hero and an American patriot.
		But if he goes down this road with Israel, then that's not going to be his legacy.
		And he might fall for some of the bullshit that they feed him, like, oh, we write the history books or, oh, we'll correct it or, oh, people will get over it.
		In case he hasn't learned, they're not.
		And they won't.
		And the history books lie and we all know it now.
		So I wonder what President Trump wants to do about all of this, thinking about his legacy here.
		I mean, what?
		Does he just want a legacy in Israel and not here?
		I mean, that would be, I guess, maybe another potential.
		But no, that's not how I see it.
		I think this was a mismeasurement.
		I think he got really bad advice.
		And I think he's letting people like Mark Levin steer him in the wrong direction and Susie Wiles steer him in the wrong direction.
		Political lobbying is one thing, but then political influence is a totally different thing.
		And now we're seeing the influence.
		And so, again, I don't take anything in politics personally.
		I'm not going to cry here because of all the stuff that I did for Donald Trump.
		And, you know, if this administration continues down this path, whatever.
		That's just how it goes.
		I don't have any regrets.
		But how Trump deals with this now, because this isn't the left making up fake stuff.
	This isn't Looney Tunes leftists protesting out in the streets.
	This isn't fake news reporters on TV yapping every night.
	No, this is his base.
	These are the American Patriots.
	These are the people that will make or break his legacy.
	And I do think he's wise enough to know that.
	Now, in his ambition, in his pride, and with the people giving him bad advice, maybe he could miss all of this, but I don't think so.
	I think it's affecting him.
	I think he's thinking about it.
	And so you just got to think, well, then what does he want the outcome to be?
	What does President Trump want his legacy to be?
	Does he want it to go down this road as the world turns against Israel and then he watches America turn against him?
	I hope not.
	That's not what I want to see.
	But if he wants to save his legacy and he wants to be the American patriot legend and hero like he depicts in his truth social picture with his face painted red, white, and blue flag, then he has to abandon Israel.
	He has to at this point.
	He could have played it neutral.
	He could have even played it positive.
	But just the overwhelming pro-Israel coming out of this administration, now he has to abandon it.
	Now that's the only way to fix it, is to totally abandon it.
	But that's what he's done against the advice of many wise people.
	Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
kenny in brooklyn ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		Hey, what's going on?
		This is Ahmed.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What's up, Ahmed?
kenny in brooklyn ▲ ● ▼		What's going on, man?
		I just wanted to say I'm sorry to hear about Sunday Night Live, man.
		I know you put a lot of work and energy and you put your time in there, man.
		And I'm sorry about that with that show.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, that's okay.
		I handed that show off.
		So that's all right.
kenny in brooklyn ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I like not too many people call in and actually sympathize as a person.
		So actually, you know, you put your life on the line and you get the truth out there and you build up the show from the bottom up.
		And I recognize that as an advent listener and also somebody that's empathetic towards your life, man, and watching it from the outside.
		And also, I just wanted to say thank you for everything you do.
		I really do mean that, man.
		No matter whatever hard feelings that goes on at the office, I always love and appreciate you guys, bro.
		It sounds funny, but it's just the way it is, man.
		I didn't write that, but that's just the way God made it.
		And for me and Trump right now, Trump is the trumpet, and he's going to keep blowing the horn, and he's going to keep causing chaos between all the Masonic bastards out there.
		And that's just what it is.
		And everybody's just going to hit the wall and blame each other.
		And brothers are going to fight with brothers because brothers didn't know that they took oaths.
		And other brothers are going to look pretty dumbfounded by what they discover.
		We didn't know about Pizzagate.
		Now people are starting to know about Pizzagate mainstream and, you know, oh, Jeffrey Epstein list.
		Man, if they had that, they would already buried Trump by now.
		That's a 100%.
		So, man, forget about Jeffrey Epstein at this point, man, because it's just going to divide us and divide the energy and the momentum that we had from coming in like 2014.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, think about that.
		You've just said so many powerful things.
		And I'll address the Epstein thing real quick.
		And then you said the brother on brother thing.
		That's so, that is so profound that you said that.
		And I was thinking about how to present that.
		And then sometimes you need a spark from somebody else that gives you the path.
		And I think that you just did.
		But, you know, you're right about the Epstein thing, where that's now Trump's legacy, is burying the Epstein thing.
		So it's just like, again, that's not my legacy.
		It's not your legacy.
		That's not America's legacy.
		This is now the Trump administration's legacy.
		Now, in fairness, there's still time to change these narratives.
		There's still time to change path on these legacies.
		But that's what it is right now.
		So, okay, fine.
		We're done talking about the Epstein.
		Trump administration buried it.
		All right.
		Your legacy, bro, not mine.
		I didn't do that.
		You got mad at me for trying to keep it going.
		But then this is the, that was so profound, brother on brother.
		And I was thinking about this the other day.
		And it's so true.
		Really, the whole world is in civil war right now.
		If you think about it.
		Russians fighting Ukrainians, those are brothers.
		Israelis fighting Palestinians, those are brothers.
		All the infighting in America, we're all brothers.
unidentified		That's the truth.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Some sick evil.
		Some divisive entity.
		Pitting brother against brother.
		In the time of human expansion into the stars technologically, consciously, visually.
		And instead of expanding the human race together, instead of humans embracing our now unknown destiny to the stars into cyberspace, a technological leap right now that we can barely even comprehend.
		Instead of embracing each other and going into the unknown as brothers, some divisive, evil entity has pit brother against brother.
		So what?
		So we can kill each other?
		So what?
		That some group, while we're fighting, can make off with all the resources, can make off with the secret technology and then crush us with it?
		steal the planet as we expand and then keep us in the dirt?
		Maybe an alien invasion is the only thing that could unite the planet at this point, but they wouldn't want that anyway.
		They'd never allow it.
		Well said, Ahmad.
		Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		Rhode Island.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		My name is Sean.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead, Sean.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		What's going on on?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yep, go ahead.
unidentified		Yeah, I was just calling about the Trump situation.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		Do you think they're going to have a refund for the Red Hats?
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		They got a couple stacks of them in my basement.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about that one.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		50 bucks a pop, bro?
		Come on, man.
		What are we doing?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I bet you could sell it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I bet you could sell it for at least that.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		Nah, I'm just joking, man.
		But, hey, I'm the guy that sent you the Matt Christopher book when you were locked up that you never got.
		Remember me?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, which one did you send me?
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		That boy that only hit Homer's.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that one got blocked or stolen or something.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I came back.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		I got it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, you're doing your thing, man.
		I like your show.
		I've been trying to grow that.
		I've been trying to grow my beard out like you, but it ain't working, man.
		I don't know.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's natural.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's all natural.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		Busting you, man.
		Hey, but seriously, this Israel crap is unbelievable, man.
		What is going on?
		Like, we didn't even hear about Israel, what, five years ago, four years ago, three years ago, pick a day.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I don't, again, I hate redundancy.
		I addressed this in the first hour on the last stream.
		So if you want to hear all my thoughts.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		I know, man.
		I hear you saying that, but like, I just, me personally, I didn't catch the beginning of the show because I had stuff going on, but I can't even wrap my head around this.
		Like, these politicians are out of their minds.
		Just the whole thing with, you know, the APAC and all that and the Israel dedication.
		I say we just get rid of them all because there was a way.
		Let's do it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll see what happens in the upcoming election cycles.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I think the first test case is Mom Donnie, which is insane.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		I was about to ask you, what do you think about that guy?
unidentified		And then AOC is complete trash.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I would never, I would, I would probably never vote for a Democrat.
		I would definitely never vote for a communist.
		I mean, I wouldn't vote for Mom Donnie, but I, you know, I do real political analysis.
		So I might not be a New York Yankees fan, but if they're paying, if they're playing the Little Town Little Tykes, you know, I'm probably going to bet on the Yankees to win.
		So I do think Mom Donnie will win.
		And even though it's a mayor's race, it'll be a referendum on Israel.
		And people can deny it all they want, but that's the reality.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		I think one of the biggest races that's going to happen is the Jersey race.
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about the Jersey race?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Which race?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What Jersey race?
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		Did I lose you?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Which Jersey race?
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		The Jersey, the mayor, the Jersey mayor race.
unidentified		Who's in that one?
sean in rhode island ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		I don't know.
		For some reason, I'm going to loop back.
unidentified		All right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know what you're talking about.
		Sounds like we're having a technical problem.
		Apologize.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		This is Michael from Atlanta, Georgia.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Michael, go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, Owen.
		I just wanted to give a shout out to you, first of all.
		You're awesome.
		I've been following you for about four or five years now.
		And you really, between you, Alex and Harrison, you guys have really opened my eyes to a lot of things and helped me become more prepared.
		First, you know.
		First and foremost, I think of my daughters.
		I have two little girls that I think about a lot.
		And with all this stuff going on, it really makes me fear for their future and everything.
		So, you know, all this stuff with Israel and the Middle East between them and the Muslims and everything else going on.
		It's just very sad to see what's going on with our country between not doing anything for Americans.
		Our government is complacent.
		And between them allowing all these people to come in that do not share our values and they're not assimilating.
		And it just, I feel so powerless to do anything about it.
		And I'm sure I'm sure a lot of people feel that way as well.
		But I just tried to do the best that I can to prepare for the future, not only for myself, but I think about my ancestors and I think about my daughters and my family.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me just say, never, never feel powerless.
		That's that's a psyop against you.
		That's a demoralization campaign against you.
		And, you know, my intention is to never make anybody fear powerless.
		If anything, it's to empower you with information and action.
		So never, never feel powerless.
		Never.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, you're right.
		Totally.
		And I absorb a lot of the information that you do.
		And I try to take action from like even before COVID, the stuff you, you know, talking about Operation Lockstep.
		And it's true.
		Like it totally fits that the name of that, but it seems like our entire government is in lockstep.
		The entire entertainment industry is in lockstep.
		And it's just, and I feel not necessarily, I guess I feel powerless because I try to take action and I try to stand up and I try to share this information with others around me.
		And, you know, a lot of, you know, and it's part of the operation, keep people complacent and quiet and docile.
		And a lot of them, they don't want to hear it.
		And a lot of them, you know, they just kind of want to do their own thing and they're not paying attention.
		You know, and I just, I fear for the future for my kids, especially, like I said, because, you know, with free speech about to be gone and, you know, it's just scary.
		You know, you could, in the future, maybe 10 years from now, you know, you could just say, you know, something bad about somebody and you could be locked up for five, 10, maybe 20 years for it.
		And it's just bad.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know all about, I know all about being locked up for speech.
		So first I was locked up for offending the left.
		Who knows?
		Maybe next I'll be locked up for offending Israel.
		I say that a little facetiously, but I think that's if I'm going back to jail for speech, that's probably it.
		Yeah, I just, you know, it's hard to avoid those feelings.
		And I always kind of put it like this.
		At first, the truth will piss you off, then it will set you free.
		But I suppose there's different layers of that being pissed off.
		There's different layers and levels of that emotion that you kind of went through here.
		But never, never live in fear and never feel powerless.
		And so I know that's just like giving you lip service here, but find meaning in that.
		Find meaning in that.
		Find purpose in that.
		Never live in fear and never feel powerless.
		So whatever you need to do to retake your power and to defeat your fear, then find out what that is.
		And I would just leave it at that.
		And I thank you for the call.
		Let me address something really quick in the chat.
		I used to come on here live every Monday night.
		I'd like to get back into that routine.
		I've been dealing with some things behind the scenes and it's not all bad.
		All right.
		So don't don't don't think too much of this, but I've been dealing with some other things behind the scenes.
		Just personal upkeep in life.
		Not a big deal.
		It's just normal stuff everybody goes through.
		And I've just really, if I'm, and it's that, and I've just kind of been burnt out lately, I would say.
		And so it kind of becomes this thing where if I was on here more often, I would experience extreme political burnout, and then I wouldn't be able to host the InfoWars war room like I do every day, which is my top priority.
		So I do three hours of live content a day.
		So anybody complaining about a shortage of Schroer, I don't, I mean, that's three hours a day on InfoWars.
		And so the thrust of what I'm doing goes into those three hours.
		And I think somebody else discussed, you know, the difference between me when I'm here and then on Infowars.
		Well, yeah, when I'm on InfoWars, I'm representing a lot of people.
		I'm representing a legacy.
		I'm representing a brand.
		And I'm not just representing myself.
		It's not all about me.
		It's about everybody that tunes in.
		It's about everybody that's ever worked at Infowars.
		It's about everybody that's ever supported InfoWars.
		It's about the crew behind me.
		And it's about the legacy that Alex has built.
		So, you know, that is stuff you have to consider.
		And while I'm not like a network news guy per se, I do technically still work at a network.
		And there's things you have to consider that go into that.
		That's a meaningful thing.
		You know, working in Infowars is not empty for me.
		It's very meaningful, very meaningful to me.
		I take that on.
		That's a heavy weight.
		Can you imagine going on after Alex Jones every day for 10 years?
unidentified		Hmm?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine going on and doing a guitar solo after Jimi Hendrix?
		So I've always tried to make it my focus is three hours a day on InfoWars is going to be what I can deliver, the best I can deliver, as good as I can deliver it in that delivery system, in that platform.
		So really, it's been just dealing with normal personal life stuff that I've just been putting off for a long time and then just kind of having political burnout where it's like, I know if I come on here more often, then I'm just going to be too politically burnt out to really give it all three hours a day on InfoWars.
		And I'm never going to put myself in that situation.
		But having said that, I have been wanting to get on here again every Monday night.
		And I have been wanting to do kind of more of these live streams.
		I have been doing kind of short content type of stuff on X. I'll just shoot a video, you know, from the gym or in my car or something.
		So I have been doing a lot more of that pretty successfully, but I know these live streams, people really like these live streams because this is more just, this is more just me.
		You know, this is more just me.
		I don't have a brand behind me.
		I don't have a network behind me.
		I'm not, you know, there's not a crew behind me or longtime listeners and supporters and audience and a legacy that I have to think about.
		I can just kind of come on here and sit and, you know, just be myself.
		So it's a little different.
		So I have been trying to do more of it.
		But, you know, there's also a level of respect that I have for Alex and Infowars where I don't want this to become like some competitive thing because naturally I'm a competitive person.
		And if I start to like compete with my own show and compete with my own stuff on InfoWars, then that's going to become a thing in my head.
		And so I've kind of tried to keep that from becoming an issue out of just loyalty for Alex and just knowing how I operate.
		It's not that Alex has ever asked me not to do this, folks.
		It's just I know how I operate.
		And if I really am like, no, I'm going to do this four days a week, let's say, then it's like all of a sudden the energy that I should be giving to the InfoWars broadcast is slowly going to start seeping into here.
		So that's why I was really just doing once a week.
		But I think we will.
		I think we'll get back to every Monday night.
		I'm not going to promise anything, but I was doing 8 to 10 on Monday nights, but I've just been just dealing with normal life stuff and kind of some political burnout.
		Really, honestly, the truth is I need to take like a big vacation.
		I just can't even do it.
		You're right, Wondermind, by the way.
		You are right.
		I've thought about it and you're right.
		Really, I just need to just take like two weeks off and like just go somewhere new.
		But I like, I just can't even do it.
		I can't even get my, I can't even get away from it.
		I just, I enjoy it too much.
		And it's not even, of course, you can take away, I feel so blessed, really.
		And I think about it like, first of all, they could shut down Infowars tomorrow.
		That is a real thing.
		Okay.
		They could shut down Infowars tomorrow.
		So how can I, how could I take that for granted?
		How could I take time off and be out of state or out of country and then they shut Infowars down?
		I can't.
		I can't do it.
		I just can't do it.
		And then at a lesser level, it's like, I just feel so blessed that God has even given me the opportunity to have a show at Infowars.
		So it's like I can't even.
		I would just, I would just feel, I don't know.
		So I don't like, I don't like taking things for granted.
		And I feel like I have to stick around and just and just stay here until God has clearly said it's time to take some time.
		It's time to take some time.
		And I feel like I'm almost there, but not quite yet.
		But really, that's the real answer is I just need total system reset.
		Just totally like just two wakes, just two weeks, go to a place I've never been to before, total new experience, just get my mind off of all of it and just totally clean out the system, oil change, whatever you want to say, and then come back.
		But I can't.
		I can't for the reasons just stated.
		So let's take a couple more calls here.
		All right, next caller.
		What's your name?
		Where you from?
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Hey, big O Flatliner from Wisconsin.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		What's up, Flatliner?
		We're good.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		I wanted, I'm sorry about that hacking situation.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't be surprised if you're getting hit by massage stuff.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		They pay for it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm paranoid about it.
		All right.
		What do you expect from a conspiracy theorist?
		Okay.
		I have a tinfoil hat on all the time.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		But I wanted to put out there and hear your thoughts on it that, you know, with all this, it's not really anti-Israel, but standing up to Israel stuff is like not really new.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		And I would like to put forth that it's actually like pro-American because like a lot of the founding fathers talked about it.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Benjamin Franklin, Jackson, George Washington, you know, Adams, and even like great minds like Nikola Tesla talked about it.
		So it's like, I think it's good that it's being put in check.
		I think like Flintis kind of, you know, he kind of has like Jewish tunnel vision on it and he like only sees that.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		I agree with Jones that, you know, there's like other groups out there.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		It's not just Zionism, you know.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		But I wanted to hear what you think about it.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Do you think it's Americana to be anti-Israel or pro it's like pro-America?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think it's, I don't think you can really put it in so simple a terms, but I would say in the current, in the current political, in the current, yeah, the current political atmosphere, discourse, yeah, I would say, I would say it's, I would say it's pro-America to, to be anti-Israel.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Israel was anti-Trump.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Israel was anti-mega.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		You look at the demographics of how they voted.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		They voted more than like African Americans.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about American?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Wait, are you talking about American Jews?
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		Well, American Jews, American Jews did vote majority Democrat in this last election.
		By the way, actually, by percentages, American Muslims voted for Donald Trump more than American Jews, just as an aside.
		But it's, you know, that's kind of a heavy thing to give it a black or white of, you know, is it pro-America to be anti-Israel?
		I do think in the current climate, yes.
		You know, I, but I do think the other issue that you brought up is kind of a fair balancing, a fair balancing tactic here that I'll go ahead and use.
		I do think you called it Jew tunnel vision.
		I do think there is, I do think Israel first goes both ways.
		I think there's the Israel first people that literally put Israel first as a priority every time.
		And then there's the Israel first people that every issue is Israel.
		It's just like everything is Israel.
		So it kind of goes both ways.
		So you call it kind of the tunnel vision thing.
unidentified		And I don't even think, I don't even think it's the rabbit hole, not the rabbi hole.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't even think, look, I don't think it's really fair to consider that Fuenez.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, obviously, that's kind of how he's been labeled, but he is a way more diverse political, you know, he's young.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		But yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But he kind of does get looped into that thing.
		But they came after him.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		If they come after you, you're obviously going to be mad at them.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And then there's nothing you can do.
		And then there's nothing you can do.
		Now, it's a little different now.
		It's a little different now.
		It used to be, it's like once they labeled you an anti-Semite, you were an anti-Semite for life.
		But now they call everybody an anti-Semite.
		So it kind of doesn't matter anymore.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like the Hitler thing.
		You know, it makes me think about that Albert Pike quote where, you know, that Masonic guy from like the late 1800s, he was like saying like World War III was going to be between like international Zionism versus modern Arabic caliphate versus the Masons.
		And then we as like the people are just kind of like in the middle.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Kind of being like, what the hell is that?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're definitely seeing that.
		I mean, that's definitely happening.
		That is 100%.
		Everybody can see that now.
		But you know what's what I've always happened.
		What I've noticed, though, is from my political consumption observation and reporting is that politically, Jews tend to act internationally.
		They tend to act big picture.
		And so that's why you see like people saying like international Jewry and stuff like that.
		So yeah, Jews tend to, Jews tend to, when they get into politics, act internationally or nationally.
		Muslims, when they tend to get into other politics, they act locally.
		So that's why you see all these groups where Muslims are all moving to little Somali, Minnesota, or now they're trying to build this center here in Texas.
		So it's a total local approach.
		Muslims will just flood the zone in a single political district and then take it over politically, run a Muslim for office, get enough votes in just from the sheer numbers game.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Have a bunch of kids.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So that's kind of the political game that the Muslims are playing is they're moving into local areas and taking over at the local level.
		They're thinking locally and they're having some success doing it.
		I mean, look at Ilhan Omar, and they might have some more in the upcoming midterms too.
		So you can see that working.
		And then you can see, you know, you can see how the Jews act internationally and politically and the successes that they've had there as well.
		And so again, it comes back to the whole point.
		We are now in Middle East.
		America is essentially in the Middle East politically.
		We are dealing with the same issues politically that the Middle East deals with now.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		We were there before, but we didn't talk about it, Owen.
		Bobby Fisher would talk about it.
		The guy.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the chess player.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		The chess player talked about it.
		Coppola talked about it.
		Gibson, the guy from Seinfeld talked about.
		Every once in a while, someone talked.
		And now it just boiled over because I think it was just much too much, especially after COVID, the survivor class was just too awake.
		And the same tricks just don't work anymore.
		You know, and now it's just backlash.
		And I think Trump's going to have a pickle with it.
		You know, the Trump administration, like I told you before, hit the wailing wall and we're all wailing about it over the Epstein documents, over funding, over war.
		All these core Trump MAGA tenants of peace, prosperity, golden age, blah, blah, blah, are all going to get washed away.
		I look at this Epstein stuff.
		If he wanted to drain the swamp, if he pulled on that thread of the sweater, it's more like the hem of the sweater.
		He could scoop up and drain the swamp so easily with all the connection.
		And man, the money you can make.
		Imagine how many company CEOs have leverage, and then you could just change the companies, change the owners of the companies and take over because it's a corrupt country.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's that's a threat to our military.
		Yeah, I can't.
		I'm sorry.
		I have to avoid the Epstein thing tonight.
		I just can't do it tonight.
		And I know.
		I'm sorry.
		I'm sorry.
		I just can't do it tonight.
		But I will say this too.
		Just, again, let's just keep everything balanced here.
		You know, white Americans and Christians Americans, you know, we have ourselves to blame too.
		And we tend to point the finger a lot at the boomers.
		And it's not that that's an unfair thing to do, but let's just, you know, let's be fair about it here.
		White Christian Americans have themselves to blame as well for the situation this country is in.
		We got distracted.
		We got distracted by the Bread and Circus.
		We got comfortable.
		We got complicit.
		We got soft.
		I'm specifically talking about white Christians Americans.
		We did.
		And, you know, part of the reason is because we did build the greatest country on earth.
		And so, of course, we felt comfortable.
		You know, you're out in your pool with a floaty and a cold beer.
		Like we got comfortable.
		We got complicit.
		And so we have ourselves to blame for that.
		You know, I see what happens.
		What happens when a Muslim gets into a place of power?
		Well, they hand it over to nobody else but a Muslim.
		Same thing with Jews.
		A Jew becomes in a position of power and influence.
		They're only going to be the next person up is always going to be a Jew.
		Christians don't act like this.
		White Americans don't act like this.
		I mean, many, many black Americans might act like this too, the ones that are on the left.
		So, no, this is Americans, white Christian Americans have let this happen.
		They have let this happen.
		It's just true.
		If they would have made sure that everything was always handed down to a white Christian, then we wouldn't be in this situation.
		But we handed it over.
		We handed over the reins.
		We handed over the influence, the control, the mechanisms, all of it.
		We handed it over.
		And now we're like, well, where are all the white Christians?
		Well, the white Christians gave it up.
unidentified		They gave it up, folks.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and they were also poisoned and tricked also.
		It wasn't everyone.
		And mass MK Ultra programming.
		Fair.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		To make a lot of men into betas.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's totally fair.
unidentified		Just being like a strong guy.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		So, and plus, you know, Christians in the West also did the same strategies that Israel has done.
		You know, they bombed like how Alex was talking about.
		They bombed Iraqi children.
		You know, there was an instance where they knowingly bombed children and served them.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Obama was, Obama was bombing weddings.
		Obama bombed Anwar Al-Locki.
		I mean, yeah, yeah.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't make it right, obviously, and we should prevent it.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		And it's just not smart that Israel's doing it now with.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But that's why, but that's why I think that that's why we're so frustrated.
		That's why Obama voters were so frustrated because they wanted out of the Middle East.
		That's why Trump supporters are so frustrated now.
		We just, we're done with it, man.
		We're done with the Middle East.
		It's like quicksand and we're sinking into it to our ultimate death.
unidentified		We just want, we want out.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		And what is our generation?
		You know, our generation, our government has done literally nothing for us.
		It's like, when do we live?
		We're waiting.
		I'm going to be 50 behind, 50 soon, and a life is going to be over.
		And we paid in the system, did everything.
		American goes through this giant golden era and we've gotten buckets from our own government.
unidentified		Well, I'll tell you.
unidentified		We've got all the rules.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		We stayed in the school and went to college and did everything and played by the rule.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		And now we're just being replaced.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what.
		And I want to get to another call.
		I thank you for the call.
aris in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sorry.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a good call.
		It's a good call.
		And you bring up good points.
		You know, there's still a separation of understanding here.
		And I think there's a couple key facts that you can look at to try to put it into perspective.
		Now, today on the Infowars War Room, I was talking about how, you know, you really cannot brag about the economy right now.
		You can't.
		Now, I do believe one of the strong points of Trump and this administration will ultimately be the economy, but it all hangs in the balance right now.
		It all hangs in the balance right now based off of tariffs and war and some other stuff.
		So I would like to see the economy be the real strong point when this administration is over, but it still hangs in the balance.
		So aside from that, this is where there's a real separation of understanding when it comes to older and younger generations.
		And I'll use a couple factoids here.
		And if my numbers are a little off, forgive me.
		I'm going off of memory.
		The average homeowner is now, the average age of a homeowner is now the highest it's ever been.
		The highest it's ever been.
		I think it's like 50.
		So in 40 years, it went from 30 to 50.
		Now, why is that?
		Because the whole market, the whole market has been rigged against the younger generations.
		So the older generations cannot comprehend why a young person would want to be a communist because they have nothing.
		They get out of college, and what are they doing?
		They're sitting there with $100,000 in debt.
		A house is $400,000.
		A car is $30,000.
		And they work 50 hours a week at a job.
		They can barely even pay the bills.
		This is no endorsement of communism.
		I'm just telling you why this is happening.
		I'm telling you the phenomenon.
		The older generation can't understand this.
		The older generations, they could afford a house by the time they were 30.
		They could have a car paid off within a couple years.
		They could get out of college and have a job, even if they weren't rich, that would allow them a lifestyle somewhat to their desirability.
		A lot of this younger generation, they get out of college.
		They're working 50 hours a week, three, four jobs, barely even, barely even keeping their head above water.
		And they don't think they'll ever be able to buy a house.
		They don't think they'll ever be able to afford a car.
		So they turn to communism.
		They've been sold out in their eyes.
		They've been sold out by America.
		They've been disenfranchised.
		So they've given up.
		They don't believe in America.
		They don't believe in themselves.
		So they've given up and they've gone full commie.
		And there's no cultural pushback anymore that shames you for that.
		Now the culture's like, oh, yeah, the college culture, the liberal culture.
		Oh, yeah, now it's, oh, communism is good now.
		And then the other one, which might be less, but I don't think as much, is the marriage age.
		It used to be people got married in their young 20s.
		Now people get married in their 30s.
		And you say, well, is that a relationship thing?
		Is that a culture thing?
		Is that a dating scene thing?
		Maybe.
		Or maybe it's another generational issue that the older generations can't understand.
		You know, getting into a relationship where you are confident and comfortable enough that you can make a decision about marriage takes time.
		And, you know, just some outlier factors.
		Divorce rates in this country are crazy.
		The whole system is rigged against men, by the way.
		So men have to think pragmatically.
		So they don't want to get married.
		But even if they did, what is that going to entail?
	Well, you're going to have to date a girl.
	You're going to have to date a girl for a year, maybe two.
	Most men want to at least experience some level of cohabitation before they get married now.
	So, okay, so now you got to think how you're going to do that.
	So now you got to think about, okay, how am I going to pay the bills?
	I got to get rid of my roommates.
	I got to, you know, you want to be able to have a presentable lifestyle to court the girl you want to marry.
	So that takes time.
	So there's all these other factors that go into marriage or a man deciding to get married that now that you used to be able to get all this stuff figured out by the time you were, say, 25.
	Now, guys, it takes them to 35 to get it all figured out.
	The financial stuff, the asset stuff, the finding the right woman type of stuff.
	So people don't even have time to go through all of this stuff and feel comfortable anymore because they're working 50 hours a week and they can barely pay the bills.
	So I think that those are the two statistics.
	And this is why the older generation doesn't understand it.
	They don't understand the disenfranchised younger American.
	They don't understand why they would vote communist.
	They never experienced the America where you get out of college, $100,000 in debt, a house is $400,000, a car is $30,000, and you're working 50 hours a week barely paying the bills.
	So that's what you're talking about.
	And the easiest fix is simple.
	You whittle the government down to almost nothing.
	Not a penny in foreign aid.
	Not a penny for any foreign country.
	Not a penny for any foreigner.
	Not a penny.
	And you cut taxes.
	Americans are paying 30 to 40% in taxes right now.
	Get that down to 2% or 3%, and you can reset the entire system and you can get back to having America the way it was intended to be.
	But as long as you're shelling out hundreds of billions of dollars to foreign countries and foreigners, as long as you're involved in all these foreign conflicts, and as long as Americans are getting taxed at 30, 40%, you'll never be able to make America great again.
	And young Americans will never get to experience America as it was intended to be.
	Let's take another call.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is Albert from Pennsylvania.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, go ahead.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Hey, what's going on, Owen?
		Just wanted to give you a call in.
		I haven't got a chance to call in a while.
		Just wanted to say that I think that you brought up a good point just now about how that the white Christian population is to blame for the state that America is in right now and for all the problems that we have that we've allowed all this other stuff to take over.
		And I do agree with that, but I think the reason for that is because we have been taught, and I don't really want to finger point and say who, but I think everyone can figure out that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Kanye Westney.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
		But I think that it's because we have been taught that having a white identity or a white pride or a white, you know, group function is inherently bad, is inherently wrong.
		There's a fellow right now in Arkansas that's trying to start a community for whites.
		And there's about 40 people that want to live in this community as of right now.
		And there have been hit pieces from the Daily Mail to BBC.
		And I don't know if any news stations in America have picked it up, but it's like as if it's the worst thing in the world.
		And that, you know, these people are plotting to take over the country.
		But all it is, is a group of white people wanting to live in their own community around their own folk.
		And that shows that the whole notion of white pride is taboo.
		It's bad.
		But you can have pride in everything else.
		You can have black pride.
		You can have Jewish pride.
		You can have Muslim pride.
		It goes on and on and on.
		But the only group of people that aren't allowed to have their own identity are whites.
		And this kind of has been a, you know, simmering thing that's boiled back for decades now that we've been propagandized in the media to think that wanting to be whites wanting to be with whites is a bad thing.
		And, you know, maybe you might agree with this, maybe you might not, but there's a fellow from the early, early 1900s, I believe, Kalergi, that wrote about the Kalergi plan and how it was ultimately the goal of the Jews to mix the races all together and have,
		while they, you know, have their own pure race so that they can then dominate the rest of the world.
		And, you know, I'm not necessarily an expert in that field, but I feel that there may be some truth to that because we definitely see that today.
		Where I have seen commercials and TV shows where they're say only blacks in it or only Asians in it, but I've never seen one where it's only whites.
		I mean, hell, you get some liberal woke woman, you know, just look at Sidney Sweeney's, you know, what she said, her history.
		You have a liberal woke woman on an ad for one of the most liberal companies in the fashion industry.
		And I know that as a fact, being from Pittsburgh, American Eagles from Pittsburgh, and people are all up in arms about it because you've got a blonde-haired, blue-eyed woman in a corny commercial doing a double entendre about, you know, her genes, which she's not even talking about her genetic genes.
		She's talking about a pair of blue jeans.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What did Sidney Sweeney say that was woke?
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		I remember.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So they're saying she's a registered Republican.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		So she has made comments.
		She's originally from North Idaho, and she'll never claim that she's from North Idaho.
		She claims from being from the Spokane area.
		And she has made some comments.
		And I probably shouldn't have said it without being able to reference it like instantaneously.
		But she had made comments in some fashion magazines about being from a small town around small-minded people, inferring that basically that they were racist or, you know, redneck or something like that.
		But no, I'm sorry, but I can't quote that exactly.
		But I don't know, Owen.
		I mean, you know, I just maybe wanted to get your thoughts on that.
		And, you know, I don't, you know, I don't know if you would agree with that or not.
		You know what I mean?
		But that's just kind of my take on it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's something, I mean, I would say that I can't disagree with the facts that you've stated.
		You know, the cultural facts of, you know, being pro-white is considered negative, but being pro-anything else is considered positive.
		I mean, that's just an observable fact.
		You know, as far as some grand conspiracy to mix every single race on the planet except Jews, you know, I would say there's circum, you know, there's circumstantial evidence that would that would say, hey, maybe there's something there.
		But the truth is, most Israelis are Eastern European anyway.
		So it's like, even if you, even if you go down that.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		That's actually not true, Owen.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		That's actually not true.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It is.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I mean, I'm Slavic.
		Okay.
		I'm of Slavic descent.
		So the only reason why there are a lot of Eastern European Jews is because they had migrated to that part of the country.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So maybe I communicated this wrong.
		I meant Israelis.
		Israelis.
		A lot of Eastern European Israelis.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yes, because they migrated to that region.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the majority of the Bolsheviks were Jews, but they're not ethnically Slavic people.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So I'm just saying, yeah, yeah.
		So I'm just saying even if there was some grand conspiracy there, it wouldn't really make sense because really the Semites are the Palestinians.
		I mean, the Semites are the Middle Easterners, Palestinians, Jews.
		And then you had the Eastern Europeans end up mixing with them.
		So, I mean, there's really no pure, if somebody says there's some, you know, secret plan for a pure DNA or a pure genetic bloodline, I don't, I don't, it's too late for that.
		I mean, maybe somebody thinks that that's a big plan.
		I don't know.
		I don't, I don't, but there's no doubt, whether it's by design or not, that, you know, race mixing is now an American phenomenon, likely a global phenomenon.
		And so, yeah, blonde-haired, blue-eyed people, red-haired, green-eyed people are now the minority in the world.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, no, it's definitely true.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		And I don't want to come across that I'm disagreeing with you or.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You can disagree with me.
		It's okay.
		I like it.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		No, no, okay.
		No, I'm not trying to be rude or anything.
		But, you know, I'd have to check with my mom is an expert on the Slavic whole.
		I'd have to check with her exactly how we're originally descended from, but the Jewish occupation over there that led to the Bolsheviks and everything is the reason why there's a lot of Eastern European Jews.
		But the one last point I wanted to make that kind of does lay some credibility to the whole idea of the Calergy plan is that the modern state of Israel, the current state of Israel, basically what Israel has done is create what they fought World War II to prevent Hitler from doing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it's pretty clear.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I think it's pretty clear we were lied to about World War II.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Oh, 100%.
		100%.
		But they have created a pure ethnic state where only their own can go.
		And nobody else, nobody else is allowed to have that.
		And that's just, yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's ironic, isn't it?
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right?
		That the big bad mustache man couldn't do that, but you know, they can certainly do that.
		But, you know, just so I don't get put on a watch list, I want everyone to know that there were 6 trillion that died in the Holocaust and lampshades and shoes and Schindler's list is 100% real.
		And I'm going to get on a flight tomorrow, go to Israel and kiss the magic wall.
		So please don't put me on a walk list.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's not going to be enough, actually.
		We're going to need you to do a tour of all the different Holocaust concentration camps across Europe as well.
		We're going to have to fully correct you.
		You need a little re-edimication.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, they even, I saw an image on Twitter.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		They even made Elmo go to the wall.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So I mean, well, you know, Elmo, yeah, he's lucky that's all he got.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, that was.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		He deserved a lot less.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		But hey, hey, thanks.
		Thanks for taking my call, Owen, and even going back and forth a little bit there with me.
		But I'm still out here supporting you and telling everyone I can about tuning into your show every day.
		And, you know, you take the time you need to do whatever you need to do.
		But anytime you go live on Monday night, if Rumble decides to send me the notification, then I'm not.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You're not getting notifications.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's weird with Rumble.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What about?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Do you get them on X?
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know.
		Can you get notification?
		Can I turn on notifications?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, keep on X. Yeah, so if you go to my X, if you go to my X profile, there'll be a little bell up by up on the top right area.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		If you click on that bell, it should send you notifications.
unidentified		Yeah.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		Well, I'm glad I didn't even know about that.
		I'll have to do that then.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, give that one a try.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I would definitely suggest, I would definitely suggest signing up for notifications on X for sure.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		Okay.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, that's definitely a good call.
		But hey, you take care, Owen, and keep preaching the good stuff out there.
		You know what I mean?
		Love tuning in every day.
		And I'll let you get to some more callers or do whatever you want to do for the rest of the night.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Albert.
		It's good to hear from you.
		It's been a minute.
		Thank you for the call.
		And on the Sidney Sweeney thing, I'll avoid the conspiracy theories for now.
		There's a lot of conspiracy theories out there about that.
		So let me just play it at face value.
		And I know we don't do that.
		But let's, for the sake of this conversation, let's just play the Sidney Sweeney thing at face value, even though playing things at face value is for rookies and novices.
		But for this, let's just play it at face value.
		So, you know, as Albert was saying, the attacks on Sidney Sweeney are now happening and they're turning into a race thing, of course, and all this other garbage.
		Well, oh, now they're protesting her at public events.
		So, and then Trump basically endorses her.
		So, it's going to be interesting.
		This is actually a big moment for the culture war.
		And again, understand, this is just addressing this at face value.
		And so, obviously, when you look at the things at face value, you are dealing with propaganda and, you know, other factors.
		But just at face value, this is a major indicator of where the culture war is going to go.
		If American Eagle doesn't say anything negative about Sidney Sweeney, which I don't think they're going to, they probably will double down.
		And then if other brands want to use Sidney Sweeney and they realize it's successful and it's okay, we're going back to, let's say, blonde-haired, blue-eyed bombshells again, and we're going to normalize whites in ads and promoting whites for brand ambassadors again.
		That will kind of determine that woke is dead.
		Or it's not, it's not the dominant factor anymore.
		And it'll go back to, hey, what works?
		What makes money?
		So it's like, hey, who sells the most shoes?
		Well, it's Michael Jordan.
		All right.
		We want Michael Jordan.
		Who sells the most apparel for American apparel consumers?
		You know, just we're talking middle-class people here.
		Oh, Sidney Sweeney works.
		Oh, put her in jeans.
		So it'll just go back to organic, natural marketing campaigns, and woke will be dead in marketing campaigns.
		Now, that's just the face value stuff.
		The other, you know, race war conspiracy theories and all the other stuff, like usual, that'll be a separate issue to play out.
		But I think the Sidney Sweeney marketing campaign success either being embraced or pushed back aside will be a big indicator of where the culture wars are going, which is always kind of controlled to a certain degree.
		But, you know, we, the people, do have a say.
		Our dollar has a say.
		Our commentary has a say, and we're still here.
		So I think it wins.
		I don't think Sidney Sweeney is losing the it girl title anytime soon.
		And the more the left bitches and complains, I think the more it solidifies it, if I'm being honest.
		All right.
		One more call.
		One more call for the night.
		Last final caller.
		What's your name where you're from?
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and it's Jefferson in Virginia.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Nice to see you finally got your system up and running.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, we dealt with some we dealt with some bugs.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I'm glad you got to figure it out or somebody stopped attacking them.
		I don't know what was going on.
		Anyway, last caller.
		I just want to get to my point.
		You know, six years ago, Rick Kerry, your former governor in Texas, blurted out over the radio or television that we have compact fusion reactors.
		Not fission, fusion.
		And Trump keeps talking about these super weapons that nobody knows how they understand how they work, right?
		So Trump apparently has been read in on classified programs in our weapons departments, but he hasn't been told about what Rick Perry blurted out about compact fusion reactors and how we don't need oil anymore.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Was Rick Perry a part of the first administration for a minute?
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he was the head of the agency he couldn't name in the debate, Department of Energy.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		How ironic was that?
		He got the head the agency.
		He couldn't remember.
		He said Department of Education, which they are sort of getting rid of, but they're keeping the Department of Energy because it has a nuclear component that is very important.
		And what I'm getting at is, I'm sure you know about Ashton Forbes and MH370 and the plasma balls and the plane disappearing and all that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I follow Ashton on X. I find his commentary very intriguing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I've never had a conversation with him about it.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Harrison had him on his show, but it's very amazing what he's finding out in all the white papers that all these scientists have been sharing amongst themselves for the last 40 or 50 years about what they know about fusion and what they're keeping secret.
		But anyway, it's pretty obvious now that we have any number of companies that have, like Lockheed Martin just announced they have a magical aircraft that has some sort of special capabilities that are magical.
		And they lost $2 billion on the project.
		And now it's sort of disappeared into the unacknowledged special access program.
		So you don't know what they're getting paid for it now.
		But all this centers on fusion because fusion taps into zero-point energy and zero-point energy can be used for teleportation and scalar weapons that Trump was talking about that nobody knows how they work.
		So I'm amazed that we still talk about drilling for oil and solar power and how bad wind power is.
		If he knows we have fusion power that's usable for both propulsion to get to Mars.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would all land on the lobbyists, obviously, just like big pharma doesn't want there to be a cancer cure.
		You know, these big energy sectors don't want there to be alternative energy.
		So, you know, that's a realistic, you know, we can comprehend that.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, we don't want to disrupt the fake economy we have that's based on a false premise of artificial scarcity.
		But I think they should all get like a coupon for having ventured down the path of what they thought was cutting edge, but didn't.
		It's just like SpaceX is not cutting edge.
		I don't know if Elon knows or doesn't know that SpaceX is not cutting edge when it comes to getting to Mars or whether there's going to be a teleportation method to get the SpaceX rocket three quarters of the way there and the rocketry will do the landing or something like that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say, let me just say, I'd say SpaceX is about as cutting edge as it gets at a consumer base.
		I don't think it gets more cutting edge than that.
		But you're talking about, you know, here's my issue.
		And I literally mean it.
		It's my issue.
		I have very good reading comprehension and I'm very good at applying different skill sets.
		But in school, if I wanted to get an A, like chemistry and science, like that was hard for me.
		I'm like really math even.
		I'm like, I'm really dumb.
		Like reading comprehension, statistics, stuff like that.
		Like I'm really sharp on that.
		Like all the standardized tests, I was like 99.
		Math and science, now I'm embarrassed to say I might have gotten down in the 80s.
		So my point is this.
		I've got all these books.
		I can go grab a stack of them right now.
		I've got all these declassified government books.
		A lot of it talks about like scientific stuff or different inventions and discoveries.
		So it's like there's some things I can wrap my mind around, like maglev technology.
		Oh, okay.
		I understand how magnets work.
		I understand how you can have frictionless movement.
		Okay, maglev technology.
		We could have maglev tomorrow.
		We could have high-speed maglev rails running the entire cross-country tomorrow if we wanted.
		There's levels of hydroelectric that we could be amplifying 10 times.
		We don't do it.
		Even nuclear is like, they try to scare us, I guess, over the Chernobyl thing.
		It's like, but even nuclear, we won't go there.
		So it's like, but that's where my comprehension kind of stops.
		And this is why I'm reading the Austin Forbes stuff and I'm like enamored by it, even though it's like hieroglyph to me.
		So I read all the, I read these government declassified documents about teleportation, zero-point energy, and all of this different stuff.
		And I'm just like, I don't even get it.
		It's like I can read it and I can say, okay, but I have no idea.
		It might as well be a foreign language.
		It might as well be a foreign life, you know?
		So, but you're, but to get to your point, this stuff does exist.
		The government has access to all this stuff.
		I can even comprehend how an invisible airplane would work.
		You basically just use mirror, mirror video technology.
		You can do it on a phone.
		So.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I could understand, like, I can comprehend how some of this stuff would work, but I'm not like, I'm not a, I'm not like an electrical astrophysicist mind that can see this and say, oh, this is what it is.
		This is the zero-point energy.
		This is the unlimited energy source.
		This is the true travel mechanism.
		But the government, the declassified government documents, it's like, it's all there.
		It's all there.
		They already have space-based lasers.
		They already have lasers in space that they can melt you with.
		They're basically admitting it with the golden dome.
		They're already saying it.
		Yeah, we got satellites in space.
		We can melt anything we want.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but the power source for lasers that would be strong enough to do things that are science fiction-like has to come from somewhere.
		And if you tap into zero-point energy, then, but Ashton's very good at explaining these things for people that aren't good at reading formulas and understanding what they all mean and putting it all together.
		It's amazing what he's learned over the last two years, just going through all the scientific papers and then listening to lectures from people like Hal Pudoff and Eric Davis.
		It's amazing.
		But like tonight, he was just going on and on about the combinations of these different companies like TriAlpha Energy and Hellion Fusion have figured out how to make energy using fusion.
		And everybody acts like, no, no, fusion is 30 years off.
		Well, if you're trying to do fusion the hard way using heat and magnetic fields and compression and pressure, then yes, it's hard to do.
		But if you've figured out a workaround on that, that these two different companies have figured out using boron-11 or helium-3, then you can get around the Coulomb barrier and it becomes much easier to get fusion reactions.
		But anyway, they've kept this away from us.
		I'm just curious whether we all think that Trump doesn't know about the energy aspect of this when it comes to like data centers.
		Because, you know, Alex went on a rant against a nuclear power yesterday, Sunday, and then it was aired again on Harrison's show this morning, the rant against fission.
		And fission is 50 years old in terms of not being useful anymore.
		If you have fusion that's being suppressed, then fission is what scares you.
		But fusion, there's nothing scary about fusion that's aneutronic, that doesn't have neutrons flying everywhere.
		And they figured that out.
		So there's almost no downside.
		And there's a substitute for this.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		There's a substitute, sort of a bridge between fission and fusion, which would have been thorium reactors, molten salt reactors that can't melt down, even if you cut the power source off for their cooling system because it's molten salt.
		So it just drains away like a pebble reactor would drain away.
		So you don't have to shut them down.
		You don't have to cool them using light water steam cooling systems.
		And that, you know, Fukushima didn't melt down because of the tsunami.
		They melted down because they couldn't keep their diesel generators running to cool the water.
		I mean, that was the amazing thing about the Japanese meltdown.
		Same thing with Three Mile Island.
		They couldn't cool the reactor properly.
		Chernobyl was a little different.
		They were fucking around with a test they didn't need to be doing and screwed up putting the rod down.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the Russians.
		You know, the Russians like to tease bears and, like, hang off of, like, high wires and stuff.
		Yeah, oh, I'm shocked.
		The Russians were tempting fate.
		So here's my concern about all this, because here's what I can understand at as base level as possible.
		This whole AI rollout, unless they're going to do a new energy source or go full nuclear, then I don't know what they plan, unless they plan on crashing the power grid.
		Like, I don't know how they're going to do it.
		They don't have the power.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		They've already said they're going to have nuclear power plants on site with the data.
		They have to.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You have to.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		But what kind of nuclear sites will they be?
		And will they really be nuclear sites or will they be zero-point energy sites?
		And they'll just lie to us about what the actual energy production is.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		If they're nuclear sites, even if they're nuclear sites, we're still kind of fucked because where are they going to get their water source?
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Well, they already used ridiculous amounts of water and they have sort of like a first right to the water because of their national security implications of the AI.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're already talking about in Arizona and Texas with these data centers, they're going to take like 90% consumption of the water.
		If you live on Lake Travis, you have a cons, you have a water that's here in Austin, North Austin.
		They have water consumption laws.
		They will cut your water off or fine you.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		But what I'm saying, the fusion reactions would not require water to cool them, nor water to create turbines to create the electricity.
		Electricity would be directly converted from the fusion in these boron-11 reactors.
		But anyway, that's all seems like science fiction.
		And that's why people don't believe it exists.
		And it's 50 years away or 30 years away or 20 years away.
		But they've got this figured out.
		It's all being suppressed because they don't want to disrupt the economy for the petrodollar because they don't know how to replace it and not have an economic collapse.
		They're always worried about the economy collapsing or going into recessions and or depressions.
		And it's a tough thing to sort of balance out.
		But I'm just curious where we think we are on the energy front because Trump, I mean, Alex was so anti-nuclear.
		He's missing the forest for the trees.
		He doesn't recognize.
		And he even mentioned that there are alternatives, but I don't think he knows how far along the alternatives are.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, who really knows?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		They're not going to let us know.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Well, Hal Pudoff knows.
		Eric Davis knows.
		There's plenty of people.
		Rick Perry somehow got read into it.
		He mentioned he blurted out six years ago.
		I made fun of him on radio on WMAL with Chris Plant.
		I said that Rick Perry guy, he's a nut.
		He actually said that we have compact fusion reactors.
		Now, either he let go some information he wasn't supposed to, or he's just mixing up fission with fusion.
		And Chris Plant was laughing along with me about Rick Perry not being very good.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How's Chris Plant these days?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I haven't tuned into him in a while.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Chris Plant's still funny.
		He's gotten obsessed with the temperature here in Washington, D.C. was really, really hot last week, and they were talking about the field, the real field temperature.
		And he spends too much time talking about things that are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.
		Although it's funny, but it's just sort of repetitive.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But you know what?
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		He's still a good conservative.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Here's what, here's my frustration lately, and I'm trying to adapt.
		I'm trying to adapt myself because if you're not adapting, you're becoming irrelevant.
		What I've noticed is most of the right-wing talkers like Chris Plant, who I've listened to for years, they're kind of talking themselves into irrelevance.
		They don't know how to adapt to the new media landscape, and they don't know how to adapt to the new political atmosphere.
		And I've noticed this significantly because I'm, you know, I don't like wasting time.
		And I've found, again, I like Chris Plant.
		I respect him.
		He's a great broadcaster.
		I've been listening for years, but I don't spend time on Chris Plant anymore because he's just, he's not there.
		He's not, he's just kind of stuck in a loop.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		He is.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		It's disturbing that he's willing to talk about things like Frank Marshall Davis being a mentor to Barack Obama, but he won't be able to do that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We've been talking about that for 10 years.
		Right, right.
		Yeah.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		But I'm just saying, he only goes so far.
		And he has a show on, what is it, One America or whatever?
		Or Newsmax.
		I haven't watched that at night.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		A lot of those guys, a lot of those guys at WMAL and at SiriusXM get news, get TV news contracts with, what's it called?
		I forget the name of it.
		It's on the tip of my tongue.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		I'm blanking too.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like Andrew Wilkow is on there.
		Stacey Washington is on there.
		I guess I think Chris Plant is on there.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Cumulus or something?
		That's the radio.
		What is it?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, but it is a joint exercise with Cumulus, but I forgot the name of it.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just wanted to see where you thought you were on the suppressed energy issue because, you know, artificial scarcity of energy is what keeps this whole corrupted system going.
		We're all buying into sort of a monopoly game that's rigged by the petrodollar and the fiat currency that's based on it or used to be based on it.
		But where we're going from here when we're, you know, was it Catherine Austin Fitz says that we're not only $40 trillion in debt, that they've actually stolen $24 trillion out the back door of the Fed.
		So it's actually $65 trillion that's missing, essentially, that we're on the hook for.
		And that's not counting unfunded liabilities in the future.
		So it's like we're in worse shape than we realize.
		People have been lining their pockets with USAID money and European funding money and stuff like that and NATO.
		And it's been a universal basic income for the NGOs for decades where these people are lining their pockets and their family members' pockets with this money.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		It's like they've known the house is burning down.
		So they've kept the fire alarm from going off while they steal everything.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're looting the Titanic before they sink it.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
jefferson in virginia ▲ ● ▼		But they're offloading gold bars onto a submarine.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is like, this is the final, this is the final.
		This is the ultimate level right here.
		And I appreciate your call.
		Good to hear from you, Jefferson.
		A couple of friends, Albert and Jefferson, to close us out here.
unidentified		Now, I don't want to get into the whole alien thing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It is crazy to think if we're the only higher intelligence life form in existence that we can comprehend in this dimension, or if we're not, right?
		I mean, either one of those things is pretty crazy.
		The odds of the latter are probably zero.
		So if we are the only intelligent life form, then I mean, what does that prove?
		What does that do?
		But aside from that kind of notion of where are we really at on this planet, what are we really doing here?
unidentified		When you start to talk about the suppression of alternative energy or the control mechanisms of the energy available to us, there's really only one thing that you can conclusively determine when crunching these realizations, and that is that we are slaves on this planet.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We are slaves.
		To who, to what, to what degree, how.
		But you start to crunch all of this data, and it's like even at the low level, even at the low level, you're a slave because you work for somebody else.
		You work for someone else's interests.
		And I'm not talking about your employer.
		That's a good thing.
		The employee-employer relationship, that's good.
		Don't let them demonize that.
		And by the way, you want to work for a rich guy.
		No, I mean, 30 to 40% of what you work for goes to somebody you've never even heard of.
		A country you couldn't even find on a map.
		A war that you couldn't care less about or never even heard of.
		That's like the consumable concept of slavery that you could accept that you're living under.
		Imagine that we're not even the only intelligent life form.
		Or imagine that we are.
		And the world's resources and financial systems are all being controlled by a select few.
		And imagine if they have the true information, the true reality of our existence on this planet, the truth about the cataclysms that come seemingly in cycles around every 3,000 years.
		And what secret knowledge of ancient civilizations and what secret knowledge of the turning of the planet or however it works that they have that they can control the rest of us with.
unidentified		Whoa.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Something to think about as we sign off for the night.
		We ended up going longer on our second broadcast.
		So that's good.
		That's good.
		All right.
unidentified		Let's see what we want to go out with today.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Till Lindemann has put out a bunch of new music I haven't heard yet, but no.
		We came in with Till Lindemann.
		That's a good one from Till.
		I like for people to hear music they've never heard before.
		I bet you've never heard this.
		Alice Fresser from Till Lindemann of Ramstein fame.
		That guy's crazy.
		You're going to talk about a crazy guy.
		It's definitely a guy you'd have a good time with.
		You know what I mean?
		He definitely knows how to have a good time.
unidentified		Till Lindemann knows how to rock.
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		And by the way, there's a lot of other stuff there.
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		And we've got more stuff coming.
		By the way.
		By the way.
		So the pressure is for me to do this more often like I used to.
		Maybe we will.
		Or maybe we'll just disappear for two weeks.
		Or maybe you'll see me on the InfoWars War Room tomorrow.
		Actually, I'd bet on that.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼		All right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Good night, guys.

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