Owen Shroyer’s live RNC episode dissects Trump’s VP pick, J.D. Vance—endorsed after a 2016 text calling him "America’s Hitler"—while Vance dismisses past criticism and aligns with Trump’s policies on immigration, energy, and Iran strikes like Soleimani’s assassination. Shroyer questions Vance’s loyalty to Israel amid AIPAC ties and demands Secret Service investigations over convention celebrations, as callers echo security concerns and Kid Rock’s COVID-19 and border attacks dominate the broadcast, underscoring the GOP’s defiant, anti-establishment tone ahead of Trump’s speech. [Automatically generated summary]
His support for a national abortion ban and his twisted belief that women should stay in violent marriages for the benefit of their children exemplifies his dangerous extremism.
He's not just wrong for Ohio, he's wrong for the country.
And they can't run on the issue of is the world more peaceful than it was four years ago.
Remember when Donald Trump left office, you had real growing peace movements all over the world.
The Abraham Accords that showed a real promise of uniting the Israelis with some of the Sunni Arab states.
There was no war in Europe.
Asia looked like it was under pretty good control.
And three years later, it seems like we have a conflict in every corner of the world, and Americans are poorer, Sean.
You know a little about my background.
I grew up in a poor family.
I remember when my grandmother, who raised me, she used to negotiate with the Meals on Wheels people to give her additional food so that she could feed me.
How does a family like that deal with Joe Biden's grocery price inflation?
How does a family like that deal with gasoline and energy price inflation?
It's gotten more expensive just to live a good life in this country.
Donald Trump and I want to make that better, and we have policies to make it better.
Democrats have lies and distortions, and again, I don't think the American people are going to reward that.
You know, I had an opportunity to talk to Donald Trump, and I knew this question would come up actually for almost every person that was under consideration, and that was past comments that you had made about him.
And when I, I'll tell you after what his response was, but you didn't have the nicest things to say about him back in 2016, which seems like a long time ago now.
You know, you literally said, you texted a friend that Trump is a cynical a-hole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad and might even prove useful, and that he's America's Hitler.
And you compared him to a cultural heroine in the Atlantic Monthly.
And I'll tell you Trump's response, but you said that then.
What do you say to people that say, well, wait a minute.
I mean, you know, my book came out in 2016, Hillbilly Elegy.
It's really sort of the story of growing up in poverty, achieving the American dream, starting out in business.
And I really didn't care that much about politics.
I certainly had views.
I was a Republican, but I was not nearly as involved, obviously, as I am today.
And again, there's something that really changed for me, and I think for a lot of Americans, is we saw the results of the Trump presidency compared to the obsessive, deranged media reaction in 2019 and 2020.
Like, what's going on?
What's so bad about this guy that he's delivered rising wages for American workers and peace in the world?
Why is the media so obsessed with him?
I think a lot of Americans actually have had a similar awakening over the last few years because you compare the results with the reaction and clearly the people with the reaction to the problem, that's not President Trump's problem.
You know, a lot of people forget, too, back in the first debate, I believe it was, and Kamala Harris was on the stage with Joe Biden at the time, and she said, I was that girl, if you remember that moment.
Sean, Kamala Harris basically said Joe Biden wouldn't want a little black girl like me to live in her neighborhood.
He also powered around with Klansmen.
She said this months before she joined his ticket show.
I said some bad things about Donald Trump 10 years ago, but I think it's actually important to be able, again, to admit that you're wrong.
And if I can make a good pick case to the American people, people who may have been skeptical of the president back in 2016, who can be skeptical now that we've seen the results.
And President Trump has been very, very effective at communicating on this.
So to the point where now a majority of Americans believe that we need to deport a large number of people who have come here illegally.
That's a major political victory for him, and I think it's going to lead to a policy victory for the American people.
But, Sean, we have to talk about the fentanyl problem because this is something that I know extremely personally.
And we have close to 100,000 Americans dying of drug overdoses every single year.
Most of it is brought in by Mexican drug cartels manufactured in China, been brought in by these cartels.
To get a little personal, you know, my mom struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life.
That's why my grandmother, who I call Mama, raised me.
But the coolest thing, maybe the greatest blessing of my life is that my mom is about to celebrate 10 years sober.
And she is able to celebrate 10 years sober, frankly, because the poison that's coming across the border now wasn't coming across in such large numbers 15 years ago.
We are depriving Americans of a second chance with their loved ones.
You cannot keep on doing this.
You're orphaning an entire generation of kids.
Go to Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Sean.
You have thousands of grandparents raising grandchildren that they weren't expecting to raise because of the poison Joe Biden let it come across the border.
President Trump is the guy to stop this.
And if we don't stop it, we're going to lose a generation of young kids.
You know, when I saw you in Atlanta, I said I felt a little embarrassed because I was one of the few Americans because most people knew Hillbilly Elegy.
It was a massive bestseller that became a movie.
And I didn't, I literally read at least a book a day researching radio and television.
And so I decided I watched the movie.
And when I saw you, I did ask you: is this really what your life was?
Appalachia.
And this is the history of your life.
Appalachia, you become a Marine.
And by the way, your mom was a drug addict and an alcoholic.
Your father, not exactly the greatest father in the world.
And you grew up poor, and you had an amazing grandmother that came out of your life, too.
Yeah, Sean, it was tough in a lot of ways, but blessed in a lot of ways.
And I think you've got to sort of accept the good with the bad.
I wouldn't see the world the same way that I see it without that experience.
And I really do see it as a blessing.
The grandmother who raised me was such an amazing person.
I mean, she was a woman of deep Christian faith.
She cursed like a sailor.
I mean, she had a mouth that would really make a Marine Corps drill instructor blush.
But she was so loving and so disciplined.
And I really think that all the opportunities that I've had come directly from her.
She also believed in this country and recognized that most people in Washington do not care about people like her.
And when I talk about generations of grandparents raising generations of grandchildren, that's exactly who I think about because I remember my mama, she couldn't afford her medication.
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Mama, what?
She couldn't afford to get the prescription drugs that she needed.
Well, sometimes we struggled, but sometimes, Sean, we didn't have anything.
And she would negotiate to get a little bit of extra so that she could share with me and also have enough for herself.
Look, sometimes tough work, sometimes were hard, right?
And, you know, but I look back on that and I think to myself, when I go and talk to people, when I serve people as a United States Senator from the state of Ohio, I go and visit a food bank.
I actually understand a little bit what people are going through.
And so, yeah, it was tough when I was dealing with it.
But now, I really do think it's a blessing because it's given me a perspective a lot of politicians don't have.
state-run media says the guy that wears a cia patch was shot and he showed a remarkable amount of unity and defiance and calmness they blamed him for the rhetoric even though he was the victim of a of a near assassination it's It's crazy.
But I think it's really important that you don't have Republicans who blow up disagreements so that they can win points with the media, who are never going to treat Republicans fairly.
The job is to help enact the agenda.
And why does that matter?
Because that's what's going to make people's lives better.
And I have to say, you have to have some humility about this.
It's the biggest job in the world.
But I served my country successfully in the United States Marine Corps.
I had a successful business career.
And I have the vision and the agenda aligned with President Trump to make the American worker better off, to bring peace to the world, and to actually advance an agenda that's good for American citizens.
I think the experience that maybe most Americans would care about, it's not that I spent two years in the Senate, and I think I've had a very successful two years in the Senate.
It's that I came from nothing, became United States Marine, and succeeded in business.
That's the experience that I think gives you a fresh perspective.
You combine that with the ability to get things done, and that's what you need to do.
But, Sean, I got to say, Donald Trump is as healthy as anybody I've ever met.
I tell him all the time, he's got ridiculous genes.
I plan to be a very good vice president for Donald Trump for four years.
I was playing mini golf with my kids when people started to text me and I realized the president had been shot.
Of course, I didn't know what his condition was.
My first reaction was just to pray for him.
I was terrified.
If President Trump had been killed, of course, terrible, terrible, terrible, but the reverberations in the country, it would have been a lot of people.
Thank God he was okay.
You know, I don't know enough about the security protocols, but I was a United States Marine, and 150 yards is not nearly enough of a security.
Where you stand on positions and where the administration would stand, assuming that in 115 days, by the way, early voting starts in about 64 days in Pennsylvania, a state you know very well.
Exactly right.
Let's start with immigration.
What do we do with the nearly 11 million undergrounds?
Where else do you get constantly delivering?
And I might add, many coming from countries with terrorists.
Well, I think a lot of them we actually know where they are, Sean.
That's what the crazy thing about the Biden administration is: they let people in, they give them asylum, and we actually know that these people are sort of out there in our country.
Some will be hard to find, sure, but a lot of them you actually can find just because, just if you actually try to look, which is what the Biden administration hasn't done.
The second thing, Sean, is we've got to make it hard for illegal aliens to work in our country.
It undercuts the wages of American workers, it invites more people to come in illegally.
And if you make it hard for people to work, a lot of them are going to go back anyway.
And you do those two things, I think you can go a long way to solving a problem, but you've got to stop the flow.
And that would actually weaken Russia and Iran and some of these other regimes.
But we're sitting on the Saudi Arabia of natural gas in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Joe Biden would rather buy the stuff from Iran than buy it from Pennsylvania workers.
It doesn't make an ounce of sense, Sean.
The other thing is you've got to reinvigorate the manufacturing economy.
Biggest contrast the media doesn't talk about between Joe Biden and President Trump is President Trump was right about every single disaster that Joe Biden draws.
NAFTA destroyed the manufacturing economy at Pennsylvania, Michigan.
A real estate developer from New York, Donald Trump, was actually right away from letting China into the World Trade Organization.
Joe Biden supported it.
A real estate developer from Queens named Donald Trump opposed it.
And now, of course, Donald Trump is saying, let's open up America's energy markets, and Joe Biden is trying to destroy it.
It's actually shocking.
Joe Biden's entire career has been about decimating the manufacturing economy of this country.
President Trump's entire career has been about how do we rebuild it and how do we correct the mistakes of our broken leadership class?
Okay, but let's go over some of the hotspots in the world.
I, for the life of me, don't understand Joe Biden's policy towards Iran.
I don't understand why he allows China to have spy balloons and hostile maneuverings against our Air Force and international airways and our Navy and international waterways.
Why Russia got a waiver for the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, for example?
But we've got a lot of hot spots in the world that have been very outspoken on the issue of Ukraine.
Hundreds of billions of dollars in Joe Biden.
And then I would argue that Joe Biden surrendered in the war on terrorism with Hamas by not supporting Israel further in their offensive moves after the worst terror attack in their history.
Let's get your overall view.
Let's look at these hotspots: Ukraine, Iran, the war in the Middle East.
Yeah, so first of all, Sean, I served in the United States Marine Corps for four years.
One of the things I'm proudest of, the most important part, I think, of the Trump doctrine and foreign policy is you don't commit America's troops unless you really have to, but when you do, you punch and you punch hard.
I think that's the way that you respect America's brave men and women who are serving.
How President Trump beat the Caliphate, beat ISIS, which people said literally couldn't be done, and he did it in a matter of months.
But also, Iran, Sean.
A lot of people recognize that we need to do something with Iran, but not these weak little bombing runs.
If you're going to punch the Iranians, you punch them hard, and that's what he did when he took out Salamani.
By the way, that action, people said that it would lead to broader war.
It actually brought peace.
It actually checked the Iranians and slowed them down a little bit.
But let me just say something about this Iran issue, because maybe the most important diplomatic breakthrough of the Trump administration was the Abraham Accords.
If you want to check Iran, the way to do it is to one, withdraw their oil money, which, of course, Joe Biden's been bad about, but you've also got to enable the Israelis and the Sunni Arab states to win and actually provide a counterbalance to Iran.
Joe Biden has done nothing.
You have the infrastructure there sitting there to weaken Iran, to strengthen our ally Israel.
Owen Schroyer live, episode 74: live RNC coverage in response to Trump's vice presidency pick.
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All right.
So we just heard from J.D. Vance for the first time since the nomination.
He's still talking, by the way, with Hannity.
So this thing could go forever.
I just heard enough to get my response.
You know, my initial response was I didn't like it.
And it's nothing against J.D. Vance.
It's nothing against J.D. Vance.
But from a strategic perspective, I didn't like it.
I didn't like, or I don't like, generally speaking, I don't like vacating a seat in the Senate.
I don't like taking a man out of the Senate when you know you have that vote.
Strategically, I just don't like that.
Strategically, going with J.D. Vance because you think it's going to help you win Ohio, I don't like that.
You're going to carry Ohio.
If you think it's going to help you in Pennsylvania, well, what's going to help you in Pennsylvania is stopping the voter fraud in Philadelphia.
But I think you just got enough momentum in Pennsylvania considering somebody just tried to shoot you in the head in Pennsylvania.
So strategically, it doesn't help you in Pennsylvania.
If you think it's going to help you in Michigan or Wisconsin, again, if you want help in Michigan or Wisconsin, stop the voter fraud in Detroit and stop the voter fraud in the city you're in right now, Milwaukee.
That's what's going to help you in those states, not J.D. Vance.
Now, what happens that DeWine, the rhino, sleazy, slimy governor of Ohio, do you trust him to put somebody in the Senate that you like if you're Donald Trump?
So I just don't get the strategy.
Really just do not understand the strategy of it.
The one thing I'll say, J.D. Vance is 39 years old.
And so if you like him and you think that there's a future for him to climb up the ranks of the Republican Party as a young guy, well, then, okay, I guess you think that that's a move that you're making here.
But let's be perfectly clear, and this is what I'm saying.
And this is going to be probably the loudest issue that people have with J.D. Vance, even though it really probably is in the minority.
But this is going to be what you see on Twitter and X and on social media platforms is loyalty to Israel.
And I think we just saw a little bit of that during the interview.
I know AIPAC obviously has funded his campaign to a six-figure number.
And so I just don't like a pick coming out of Congress.
I don't like a pick of somebody who's worked in D.C. I don't like a pick of somebody who's funded by APAC.
I don't like a pick of somebody that you think is going to help you in the Rust Belt.
That's not going to be the answer there.
Now, having said all that, Donald Trump's the man running.
It's his pick.
And so I'll accept it.
And I don't want to throw water on all of this momentum, which, man, I mean, it's just crazy to even sit here and talk like this, but it's just the truth.
I don't want to throw water on all of this momentum that Donald Trump has had since he survived an assassination attempt by coming out against J.D. Vance or knocking the pick as a bad pick.
But it certainly is going to have issues, and it certainly is going to raise some ire amongst some of the young new conservatives.
I think Donald Trump needed someone who is more anti-establishment than him.
I think Donald Trump needed somebody who doesn't already work in Congress or has never worked in D.C. And that would have been my strategy.
But I'm not Donald Trump.
I'm not the one wanting for president.
So I'm willing to give J.D. Vance a chance.
I just want to get Donald Trump in the White House.
And I'm not a political purist, so I'm not going to sit here and pull my hair out.
But do you think J.D. Vance gives Trump the proper life insurance is really, I think, the biggest question.
That feels like the biggest question at this point.
So we'll continue to cover the RNC if I see anything else popping up that's fun.
We may pop in and out of the home run derby as well.
But I think I've heard enough from Vance.
I'm willing to give him a chance.
And all of this stuff about him being anti-Trump, do you accept his response there?
I'd say I'm willing to accept his response.
He was 30 years old when he said it.
He admitted he fell for the mainstream media lies.
So at this point, I'm willing to take him at his word on that.
I'll give him that.
And if Trump is willing to forgive and forget, then I can say I'm willing to forgive and forget.
But obviously, that's, you know, would be concerning on its face.
But that's probably the least of my concerns.
My concern is removing you're pulling someone out of the Senate.
You're vacating a seat.
Somebody who's already bought and paid for by AIPAC that we're all sick of.
And somebody, if you're thinking geopolitically or geographically, politically inside the United States as far as trying to get support in the Rust Belt, I just don't think that this is the move.
Your vice president pick is not the move to do that.
Stopping voter fraud in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee.
That's how you do that.
Not picking J.D. Vance.
So I'm willing to give Vance a shot.
But I don't think this gives Trump any momentum.
If anything, I think this kind of stalls the momentum.
There's no, I don't get much excitement from this pick, personally.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's Pence 2.0 by any stretch of the imagination.
But at the same time, it kind of has that same vibe of reaching into the Republican coffer and pulling someone out.
Yeah, I hear people.
I look at people's responses in the chants in the Rumble Rants and on X. We're live at rumble.com/slash Owen and on X at Owen Troyer1776.
Glad to be with you here.
So that's my response to the Vance selection as the RNC begins in Milwaukee.
By the way, there were protests.
There were anti-Trump protests outside of the venue in Milwaukee.
Let me just kind of get this out of the way, too.
I did basically the entire InfoWars war room today on the assassination attempt, and we took some callers that were there, eyewitnesses.
Is Eric Trump live right now?
Hold on a second.
Eric Trump might be speaking.
I'd like to hear this.
Let me see here.
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The Republican nominee for president of the United States of America.
Pursuant to rule 40D of the rules of the Republican Party.
I formally declare President Donald J. Trump and J.D. Vance as the Republican nominees for President and Vice President of the United States.
I'm a little bit on delay from watching you on Rumble.
J.D. Vance is kind of a sort of an unsettling character just from hearing him talk.
But, you know, when Trump first came on the scene, I was a lot worried about Trump being an undercover Democrat and so on and so forth.
Kim Calls for Secret Service Investigations00:04:31
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But he proved me wrong.
So I'm with you.
Let's give him a chance.
But the whole Republican Party as a whole and the whole gimmick and aura around the celebration, if you will, during their convention, it all seems a bit unsettling at this point.
Let me interrupt you because I'm glad you just made this point.
And I was just thinking this earlier: is how, and there's nothing you can really do about it.
And I forget who it was.
I'll search for this when I stop talking and you respond here.
I forget who it was, but somebody, it might have been a representative from Florida.
It might have been Matt Gates.
I don't know.
I'll try to find it.
But somebody said, basically, screw the convention, immediate investigations into Secret Service.
And that's exactly the, that is exactly the case.
And so, you know, and look, this is, this is part of the process.
It is what it is.
The timing is what it is.
But yeah, exactly.
Screw the RNC.
Like, like, screw this whole ceremony.
Screw this whole gladhanding.
Screw this whole cheer fest.
Screw this whole media circle jerk.
I want investigations into Kim Cheadle.
I want investigations into the Secret Service.
I want investigations right now.
I want Senate hearings.
I want House hearings.
I want people called to the floor.
I want this now.
This should have been going on today.
And so, not this RNC.
Again, the timing is what it is.
What are you going to do?
But I mean, that's what we get now.
We get all this glad handing.
We get everybody in Milwaukee, you know, doing the whole thing.
Instead, we need to be convening the Republican House and we need to be launching investigations into Kim Cheadle and the Secret Service.
This is insane.
This is insane that two days after President Trump is nearly shot in the head.
What are they going to be doing?
If Donald Trump's head was blown off on mainstream television during a rally, would they be holding the RNC today?
Would they be replacing him today?
Or would they be having investigations onto how the hell this happened?
So, so to me, this is, and maybe that's, you know, maybe that's why we're kind of upset at the whole Vance thing because the timing is just so off with the assassination attempt.
But I mean, like, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, why are we doing?
It's like, what are we doing gladhanding here, celebrating here, having the ceremony here?
There should have been investigations into Kim Cheadle and the Secret Service.
They need to be answering questions today.
There need to be resignations today.
There need to be impeachments today.
And instead, we're gladhanding in Milwaukee.
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Yeah, I don't know if it's my turn to talk or not, but the three-letter organizations, if J.D. Vance didn't go out and celebrate in high-five with Hannity and so on and so forth, and he came out and said, we need to investigate everything that happened.
Forget about this process.
Do we not recall that, you know, LBJ was likely involved with the Kennedy assassination?
Like, what's going on?
Let's not fall into the same trap again.
That's great.
I'm his VP, but we need to look into all these organizations that have destroyed us from within for so long.
I live about two hours south of Butler there, where the where the rally was.
And I mean, I can give you all kind of all kinds of like firsthand details about, you know, people's initial reactions to it because I was, you know, out to dinner Saturday night there.
But if you want to talk about the vice presidential pick, I mean, my view on it is I've never in my life voted for the vice president on a ticket.
I've always, you know, the first time I was eligible to vote for president was in 08.
And I remember that was McCain and Sarah Palin.
Actually, I like Sarah Palin more than McCain, but I ended up voting for Ron Paul anyway.
But the pick of Vance, of course, really doesn't excite me.
And I'm not really a huge, I'm very skeptical of him, but I guess you could almost say it's a very vanilla pick.
You know, no one's going to be too excited about it.
No one's going to get, you know, hopefully not get too upset about it.
But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I'm just voting for Donald Trump, you know, and I don't know how many other people feel that way.
But, you know, as long as his pick wasn't somewhere completely out of left field, I guess you could say that, you know, it doesn't really change the way I view it one way or the other.
No, no, no, I highly doubt that, you know, that he would have picked somebody like that.
You know, I just feel that I kind of agree with your take that he should just say screw the RNC.
You know, don't even go through with all the hoopla about it.
I mean, I'm no expert when it comes to, you know, political strategy or whatever.
But what I've been saying the past couple days since Saturday, instead of going to Milwaukee this weekend, you know, I think the biggest show of support, the biggest show of force would be, you know, for him to go right downtown Pittsburgh, come back, you know, to this area, you know, go to Heinz Field, pack 80, 90,000 people in there.
You know, Taylor Swift can put 70 in there.
I'm sure Trump can put 80 or 90 in there, you know, and just, you know, basically like a double middle finger to the deep state saying, I'm still here.
You know what I mean?
Just make it like a rock concert, like a stiller game atmosphere, you know, come out to renegade, pass out red, white, and blue terrible pals.
I mean, the whole nine, and just say, screw the establishment, screw the RNC.
I guess he's just going to walk the stage and wave hello.
He's speaking on Thursday is his official address.
My idea was I would pretty much go more radio silent for the time being, but then either Thursday or next week announce his first rally.
And it's call it like the not dead yet rally or like the never surrender rally or like the biggest rally ever rally, something like that.
And I would call up my friend Jerry Jones and I would say, hey, Jerry, how do you feel about throwing the biggest political event in U.S. history?
How would you like to have my first rally since they tried to kill me in Jerry World at ATT Stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play?
You could get 100,000 in there easily.
And I like where you're going with it.
I mean, you could get Kid Rock to perform a show easily, walk a flock of flame.
I mean, whatever.
Just get, you know, get some celebrity power to pack the stands.
And then you just added an extra element, hand out towels.
Hand out towels or, I mean, hand out 80,000 American flags.
Oh my gosh.
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine?
I mean, look, you know, I'm a big sports guy.
I just love the atmosphere.
I just love the energy.
I love the atmosphere.
There's not much for me, there's not much more cooler of an atmosphere and experience than a playoff baseball game or hockey game or football game with 60, 70,000 people vibing, waving the towels, having a great time.
Oh, no, that was like one of the first ideas that struck me there, especially yesterday to just have like the biggest in-your-face event that you could possibly have.
And I mean, I think that might be a great idea, even like in Dallas, if it's even, I mean, but like just something to the effect that, like, I mean, it doesn't matter like how much these media, you know, clowns like are brainwashed to hate him, like something so big that even somebody like a George Stephanopoulos would just like be like in like with his mouth open.
Hey, earlier, I was listening, and they were talking about the Butler Farms venue versus the Butler Airport issue about whether they had a rally at either two locations seven miles apart.
And he remembered that I actually got through to him.
And he said to me, you must be the guy that sent me the email this past weekend that I didn't respond to.
I said, well, it might be me.
But anyway, he said, To my question about it, her being a Jamaican citizen, he goes, Yeah, but the State Department's gone and messed that whole thing up.
And now, if any lawyer tries to challenge what's become the law under their terms, we get sanctioned.
I said, Well, you certainly know all about that, don't you?
He goes, Yeah, I learned that one the hard way, but it was a good interview.
It wasn't very long, but it was a nice talk.
And anyway, JD Vance is smart enough to, I think, uh, play by the rules, you know, take the APAC money and then become a patriot when it uh suits the situation.
So he's a smart cat, I think he'll figure it out.
I think he's going to come around to our side, he knows the country's in trouble.
Well, I would say that if we just base it off of the last four years, I would say he's definitely on our side from the way he ran his campaign to what he said about the election in 2020.
Um, so for me, it's not like I said, this isn't some issue with J.D. Vance, it's more of a strategic thing to me.
So, a lot of people are ambivalent about JD Vance, but listen to this quote: Alex Jones is a far more reputable source of information than Rachel Maddow.
The Occupied Democrats just put that out on their Instagram or something as an attack on JD Vance.
Um, here's here's there's kind of two schools of thought in response to that.
One, just the fact that J.D. Vance would say Alex's name in a positive light is like, okay, well, that's better than most people that have ever been in Congress would do.
So, okay, that's great.
But then the other school of thought is, yeah, no shit.
I looked into Vance and it looked like he was supporting like the criminalizing this gender mutilation child mutilation stuff with the so-called gender affirming care.
He wanted to criminalize that.
I think that's awesome.
Yeah, that's good to go through with that.
And another point, I heard him say that he would have voted against legalizing same-sex marriages.
We the people and the mainstream media Fuck you two two two Yeah, you we the people We the people Inflation's up like the minimum wage So
it's all the same, it ain't a damn thing change You piece of shit, I don't see color black lives matter no shit, motherfucker But we gotta keep fighting for the right to be free And every human being doesn't have to agree We all bleed red,
brother, listen to me It's time for love and you nutty We the people Fuck CNN Fuck TMZ And
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we the people, we gotta unite And follow that good time guideline Collim aboard this love boat And rock that bitch up and down the coast In order to form a more perfect union to ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America We the people who come Let's go brother We are people Standing