The Owen Shroyer Report episode, "Response To Trump Guilty Verdict," centers around the fallout from Donald Trump's conviction in a New York court. Host Owen Shroyer facilitates a live show on InfoWars, with callers expressing a range of emotions, from anger and frustration to hope, regarding the verdict. Some listeners advocate for Trump to defy court orders and rally supporters, while others voice concerns about potential left-wing violence during the Republican National Convention. Shroyer himself shares his perspective as a "political prisoner," citing his probation restrictions. The conversation expands to encompass the upcoming election, global conflict fears, and the need for conservative unity. [Automatically generated summary]
If you're down with love and wanna make things better.
All we gotta do is just come together.
Weather the storm and take my hand and follow my lead to the promised land.
Cause we the people we gotta unite and follow that good time guideline.
Climb aboard this love boat and rock that bitch up and down the coast in order to form a more perfect union to ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of America.
We are live here tonight in response to this historic day, no doubt a historic day, will go down in American history this Thursday, May 30th, 2024.
The day where the Democrat Party and the deep state once again removed their mask and showed you who they really are.
They are the corruption.
They are above the law.
They are the problem, the biggest problem our country faces.
They will not let you elect Donald Trump.
They cannot let you decide the fate of your country.
They cannot let you decide who is going to be the president of the United States.
They will decide.
They run your country.
Trump getting in the way is just an example, and he must be made an example of.
Now, I'm going to be taking calls tonight to get your response to this.
I'm going to kind of break down all the different angles and levels.
Big ups to everybody in the Rumble rants will be reading the Rumble Rants tonight as well.
Big ups to Albert, always in there helping us out.
But guys, what do you think about this?
Sure, of course, Trump is going to appeal this.
And where does the appeal go?
It goes right here to the Manhattan Appeals Court.
And there is your Manhattan Appeals Court.
How do you think that's going to go?
You think that'll go well for him?
How do you think the appeal will go in the Manhattan Appeals Court?
What do you guys think?
You think it's looking good there?
Now that's just the first level.
This will likely end up at the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court will probably likely decide Donald Trump's fate.
And maybe we'll get into that for a bit.
I think there's a couple things we respond to now.
There's a couple things we've witnessed in the short hours since this news broke.
More so now than ever.
The American people see how corrupt the country is.
The American people see how corrupt the Democrat Party is now more than ever.
Now more than ever, the mainstream conservative media is going to have to find their sense of urgency, is going to have to find their spine, is going to have to find their survival instincts and realize that you're no longer just a member of the media.
You're either in it to save the country or you're just another talking head and you're basically no different than CNN or MSNBC who have all turned into left-wing activists.
At this point, they don't even hide it anymore.
Donald Trump is going to get record fundraising numbers.
We might find out tomorrow, by the end of the week, that Donald Trump got a record number of donations in 24 hours, maybe the most of all time.
Maybe the most of all time.
So I think that's going to be a big story.
Now, as far as I can tell, we don't have any information on the parameters of his probation, of him not being in prison.
But certainly there are some parameters there.
I don't know if he's even allowed to leave New York City.
Apparently, people are saying that there's so many donations coming in that they've crashed the servers.
Certainly, this is only going to make people support Trump even more.
But at this point, the numbers are so small because his support is already massive.
Most people have already made up their mind.
So I don't really think it's going to have that much of an impact.
It might put more attention on Trump, and it might galvanize people to feel more motivated to vote.
So they might actually show up and vote.
But I think we have to accept something here.
I think we need to accept something.
We just got hit by the Mike Tyson right hook.
You know, you're in the ring with Mike Tyson.
You know that right hook is coming.
It just landed.
And I think we need to be realistic about something, ladies and gentlemen, because this is all very surreal.
This is all very Twilight Zone.
This is all very Orwellian, even though we know the arena we're in.
We know the battle we're up against.
We know the players.
We know the game.
We know how corrupt it is.
But like I said, you know the right hook's coming, and then it lands.
The hook has landed.
I think, I really think they're going to put Trump in prison.
I really think they're going to throw Trump in jail.
And I think for Trump to accept that now and act accordingly would be the wisest thing he could do.
Now, I don't give advice to Trump, but I hope Trump has somebody in his ear saying, Donald, now is the time to move.
Get a rally at Madison Square Garden this Saturday.
Now, I don't know what's going on at Madison Square Garden if it's even possible.
I think the New York Rangers are in the playoffs.
So I don't know.
You'll have to work around the hockey schedule potentially.
The Knicks aren't playing ball anymore.
So who knows what's going on?
I would say you need to have a rally, Madison Square Garden, as soon as possible.
And you need to do as much as you can in the next month and a half before they sentence you to prison.
You need to do as much as you can right now with as far as getting a message out.
And here's my concern: because I've been down this road before being politically persecuted.
I've experienced from being on the front lines of InfoWars and what InfoWars has gone through and Alex has gone through.
I've been through this.
I know all the different levels and all the different players and how this goes.
Now, Trump's attorney right now is actually on Fox News.
So whatever discussions they're going to have, they've already had them for now.
But this is not the only person advising Trump for any moves going forward, his attorney Todd Blanche.
But here's my guess of how things are going.
His attorneys are telling him, don't talk.
His attorneys are telling him, sit back and do nothing.
Now, you might hear that and think, well, gee, his attorneys might be out to get him.
I don't think that's the case.
Fair to believe anything these days.
No doubt his attorneys are probably telling him to lay low.
I think that's horrible advice.
Now, you can sit there and try to curate the message potentially and make it as safe as possible, potentially, given the repercussions of anything he's going to say and the response, obviously, from the media and the Democrat Party.
But from seeing this before, from being behind the scenes in legal persecution and law affair before, my guess is his lawyers are telling him not to talk.
Otherwise, how can I assume otherwise?
Trump should be on making multiple statements.
Trump should be on a live show right now.
Trump should already have a public statement released with a flag behind him.
Why hasn't that happened?
You know that's Donald Trump's instinct.
His lawyers are telling him to be quiet.
That's what I believe is going on.
Now, whatever Trump says has to be extremely on point and very cautious, if you will.
But the fact you're probably going to hear from nobody except Trump's lawyers tonight tell me that the advice is to not talk when he should be in front of a camera right now.
He should be doing a press conference right now.
The case is over.
The gag doesn't matter anymore.
The case is over.
At least, I mean, from my experience, I believe I'm right about this because I've been in probation situations.
I've been in probations where while I'm in the process of the court proceedings, there's things I can't do, things I can't say.
And then when the verdict is in and it's done, that's it.
It's over.
Now, sentencing is looming over his head.
And I'm being told he's having a press conference tomorrow morning.
So, press conference for Trump tomorrow morning.
Sentencing is looming over his head.
Now, again, I've been in these negotiations with prosecutors and the judges and everything.
I believe at this point that they're probably going to give him prison time.
I believe they're going to send him to Rikers Island.
I think so.
I think we have to accept the situation that we're in.
We just got hit by Mike Tyson's right hook.
It's real.
Yep.
We just took the hit.
I don't see, after everything we've witnessed, I don't see why the judge doesn't give him time in the sentencing.
Now, there's discussions that are going to be ongoing between Trump's defense and the prosecutors.
And see, this is the problem.
And I said this to Alina Haba when I got an interview with her just through osmosis because they don't want anybody talking to InfoWars.
And I said, I basically said, you realize this whole thing is going to be rigged, and you guys need to be prepared for the whole thing to go wrong because they're just going to rig the thing against you.
And she acted like, nope, it's not going to be the case.
This is going to be fair case.
Ha, okay.
I'm sure somebody in the audience probably can find that clip from the Reawaken America tour where I said, I believe I said, are you guys ready for this whole thing to be rigged?
And she basically said, no, we've got the good defense.
We're going to win it.
And of course, that's what the lawyers are going to say.
But who knows if she even really understood that, no, this whole thing is going to be rigged.
And now I'm sure she does.
I only knew that because I've been through it before.
So any negotiations, so this is what they have to understand.
Any negotiations that are ongoing between the defense and the prosecutors, forget about them.
Throw them out the window.
It will not matter.
If the prosecutors are telling Trump's defense one thing, like, for example, we're not going to recommend prison time.
Do not trust them or get it in writing.
Whatever the prosecutors are telling Trump's defense, they better get that shit in writing and have it signed and sealed and delivered, or you can kiss it.
Goodbye.
It means nothing.
Nothing.
And what they do, they'll recommend something.
The prosecutors will recommend something over-the-top ridiculous.
And then the judge will give him half and he'll say, see, I'm a good judge.
So the prosecutors will say, 30 years in prison, $500,000 fine.
And then the judge will say, okay, 15 years in prison, quarter million dollar fine.
See, I'm noble.
I'm good.
I'm impartial.
But it doesn't even matter if it's 30 years or 100 years.
This isn't about putting Trump in jail for life.
I mean, maybe it is.
They can put him in jail through the entire appeals process and hold him in Rikers Island like they're doing to Dexter Taylor.
And that means years.
That means years.
So he'd have to run his campaign.
He'd have to run from prison.
And they'll cut off his communications.
They'll take his phone privileges.
They'll put him in solitary confinement.
Absolutely they will.
Absolutely they will.
I think it's time for us to accept this.
I think it's time for Trump's team and Trump to understand what just happened to them.
Here's the first level of the appeals court: the Manhattan Appeals Court.
Here's the first level, folks.
Do you think Trump's going to win on appeal here?
Do you think they're going to overturn the case on appeal here or say we need a new judge or a new venue?
What do you think?
So that's fine.
Like I said, this ends up likely in the Supreme Court, but that won't be for years.
The election is six months away.
There is a good chance Donald Trump will be in jail.
Now, if they don't send him to jail, I mean, a large fine, some other form of probation.
Are they not going to let him travel?
All kinds of different things that we could potentially be looking at here.
But they're saying 34 counts.
They're saying 34 counts.
So you hear 34 counts.
We're not talking about a light sentencing, folks.
We're not talking about a light sentencing for 34 accounts.
They're going to come heavy.
There's a reason why they went for 34 and not one or two or five, 34.
So that's why if I'm advising Trump, press conference tomorrow morning, big, I would try to have a rally.
I would try to have a rally in Madison Square Garden on Saturday as soon as possible.
You have to do as much as you possibly can between now and July 11th, which is sentencing.
July 14th or 15th is the Republican convention in Milwaukee.
And he'll have maybe a month from sentencing to whatever, if he gets incarcerated, would be.
He'll have about a month.
So in sentencing July 11th, then they'll say, okay, we're going to give you whatever amount of years.
So they'll go for the max.
The prosecution will recommend the max, whatever it is, 12 years, four years, whatever it is.
See, but here's the thing.
People in the chat are saying, well, the max is 12 years or the max is four years, times 34 times 34.
So yeah, for one, it might be four years times 34.
So that's how this is going to go.
That's how they're playing this.
Yes, for the charge, the max might be four years for one charge.
They have him on 34, but it doesn't even matter.
Forget about the number.
The prosecutors are going to go for a max or a big number.
It doesn't matter.
They just want him off the campaign trail.
They just want them to put them in prison, and then the judge is going to give half of whatever the prosecution recommends.
So that's how this is going to go.
Or at least that's the pattern of behavior.
That's how it usually goes dealing with these corrupt cases.
I know from experience.
So Trump needs to act as if they're going to send him to prison.
And he's going to get sentenced to prison on July 11th.
And he'll probably actually have to, if that's the case, that he'll have to turn himself in sometime in August, I would say, August or September, probably.
And once they get him in there, then it's all bets are off.
They'll take away phone privileges.
They'll put him in solitary confinement.
He'll have no access to the outside world.
He'll be able to probably read letters and get books.
Even, I don't know how it works in the New York penal system.
In the federal system, there's very strict rules on what can and can't be sent in and out, even with magazines.
you'd be surprised, but even with magazines.
So now you do have the Supreme Court case ongoing about presidential immunity, which I expect the reason why they're going after Alito so hard right now is because they expect that the Supreme Court decision is going to go in Trump's favor and that might impact everything else.
And that's why they had to get this thing in as quick as possible.
But I think at this point, I would expect to be sent to prison, to sent to jail if I was Donald Trump.
And I would act accordingly.
And whatever the prosecutors are telling them in the negotiations and the communications, either get it in writing, signed, sealed, and delivered, or it doesn't mean jack crap.
Means nothing.
If the prosecutors tell Trump's defense, oh, we won't recommend prison time, better get it in writing.
better get it signed, sealed, and delivered, or it doesn't mean anything.
Now, I do wonder.
I don't think it matters because everybody's going to talk about, oh, this is going to help Trump support, help Trump pull numbers, everything else.
It doesn't matter.
Trump already has the win.
Trump already has the numbers.
You don't know a Biden supporter.
Biden can't have a rally.
Trump has the biggest rallies.
So this isn't a numbers game where, oh, Trump needs more support or Trump needs more votes.
That's already in the bag.
I think what the Democrats and the deep state have realized is that stealing the 2024 election would be too obvious.
Most people in 2020 at the time didn't really know what was going on, probably didn't think it was stolen, just think, oh, it's, you know, just, oh, it's just normal, just another election, whatever.
After this, after everything they've gone through, after the Biden administration, after today, now you're looking at an entirely, an entirely different paradigm from the public.
Now you're looking at an entirely different paradigm for the public, and nobody will believe it if Biden wins.
So I think they know that.
And so it would be too big to steal.
So I think they have to get Trump out.
Or maybe they think if Trump is in prison and they steal it, then it won't be as big of a story.
People will say, oh, they didn't want to vote for a criminal.
they didn't want to vote for a convicted felon.
But see, at this point, that's too far down the road to plan on.
What Trump has to plan on now is going to prison, going to jail in August, and doing everything he needs to do before then to get whatever message he needs out to the American people.
And I think the two big first steps, he's already doing the press conference tomorrow.
That's big.
And then I would go for a rally at Madison Square Garden as soon as possible.
As soon as possible.
And you have to be overtly over the top, like peaceful, peaceful, peaceful, peaceful, no violence, peaceful, no violence.
Love, peace, love, peace.
Like just over the top because you know they're going to try to false flag it.
You know the Democrats are going to try to stage violence.
The good news is we've learned from January 6th that we won't fall for that trap, I believe, again.
I'm telling you, this is how I see it right now.
And I want to hear from you how you see it.
So with that, I open up the phone lines: 747-200-5560, 747-200-5560.
The number is on the bottom left corner of the screen, and we're going to take calls.
What you think is going to happen after this?
Your response to this, how you're feeling about this.
This is a reality check.
There's no doubt about it.
This is a major reality check.
The reality check being: this is how corrupt the country is.
This is how corrupt our government is.
This is how corrupt the justice system is.
This is how corrupt the Democrats are.
If you didn't know it before, now you do.
And there's no going back.
There's no denying it.
There's no ignoring it.
And there's no going back.
Major wake-up call today.
If you weren't awake before, you should be now.
All right.
Here's how it works.
We got one line.
I pick up.
I ask you what your name is and where you're from.
My initial reaction was to call the governor's office and to have one of the nice ladies take down a deal that we wanted to do.
We need to do a, what do they call that, a travel advisory and a business advisory against going to New York, D.C., what's Biden, Delaware, and California.
There's no doubt that a lot of people are pissed off.
And so here's what I think is going to be interesting.
And this has kind of been a trend as well, Donnie, since you bring this up.
You know, when I was first supporting Trump in 2015, there weren't many people in 2015, ladies and gentlemen.
Not many people supported Trump in 2015, including in the media.
Now, this slowly picked up in 2016 after some of the debates.
And then when he got the nomination, the rest of the conservative Inc.
media had to go along with it.
And they didn't really like it, but they had to go along with it.
Well, then Trump was a great president.
And so then he got more support and more support.
And then in 2020, a lot of people believed that the election was stolen from Trump.
And so that galvanized a lot of people that normally wouldn't be activists, normally wouldn't get out of their comfort zone to have rallies and speeches and fundraise and lawsuits and everything else.
Well, all of this is going to be amplified in 2024.
But here's the difference.
I mean, it's not going to be me.
It's not going to be InfoWars.
It's not going to be the hardened Trump supporter.
It's not going to be the hardened American patriot that's been trying to save this country and raise awareness for years.
It's going to be people that have never gotten off the couch.
It's going to be people that have never gone to a political event.
It's going to be people that have never done any activism or rallying or fundraising or anything.
That's who's going to do it now.
And that's what this is going to do to galvanize that population.
Again, as far as how this helps Trump at the polls or voting, it doesn't matter.
He already has the numbers to win.
What matters is how this is going to galvanize the people to take action and what is the narrative going to be in response.
You might say the normies are going to be activated in some sense of the word.
And the best way to do it as far as showing our support for Trump and show our support for the First Amendment and be Americans again is to go out and be as decentralized as possible.
Stay away from the feds.
Go out with signs and talk to your neighbors.
Go tell them what's happening.
Like all my coworkers had no idea until I told them, and they're all pissed off now.
And once I told them this, the gravity of the situation, because they kind of got like the gist of it, but they had an idea that there was the statute of limitations that expired, the multiple letters from Stormy Daniels.
They had no clue.
But yet once you give them the facts, they're like, what's going on?
So if we can't, because we have to breach that algorithm wall, it's, it's, there's no other way to do it because if you go to your phone and try to shirt and stuff, nine times out of ten, your phone's going to be acting against your better interests and making sure that you're distracted from the truth and what's going on around you until your own attention span, you know, betrays us.
Oh, well, you know, Owen got a deal with living here in the United Soviet States of America.
And, you know, I think this is really telling, you know, how, you know, listening to you guys at InfoWars for years that, you know, Alex's thing was always were the tip of the spear.
And you and Alex have both said that, you know, you guys are the test case for what's going to happen next.
And the second that I saw about the verdict dropped today, that's what I thought about is, you know, you guys were to test case for what they ultimately wanted to do for Trump.
I want to hear what Tulsi Gabbard is saying on this.
She's live on Fox right now.
I want to take audio from her.
So just give me a pause here real quick.
unidentified
That this is a very serious wake-up call, that the consequences of this extend far beyond this case, this verdict, even Donald Trump.
President Biden is guilty of turning our country into a banana republic.
What does that mean for you and me and every American?
That means we have to now think twice before challenging or opposing or criticizing the political party that's in power without being concerned about how they may now use the levers of the Department of Justice and law enforcement to then come after us.
That's the serious issue that's at stake here.
And the only way that we save our democracy and reverse the damage that's already been done is when every single one of us as Americans, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, we take it upon ourselves to choose freedom to save our country, save our democracy, and punish President Biden and his administration, those who are abusing their power on November 5th and vote for Donald Trump.
What will that look like if Donald Trump wins re-election?
unidentified
Well, the accountability, first of all, is making sure that they recognize and that we send this strong message to anyone who dares to do what Joe Biden, the Democrat elite are doing, is that we, the people, are not going to stand for it.
President Trump gets elected in this election.
We send this strong message to the American people.
And there needs to be a wholesale cleaning of house within these institutions.
People will vote for Donald Trump because of his policies, because of his results, because he's a Republican.
There's a new voter that's now behind Donald Trump, and that's the fuck the deep state voter.
That's the fuck the government voter.
That's the everyone else in politics has been corrupt our whole life, but you go after Trump.
Fuck you, voter.
That's a new voter now.
unidentified
Position as power, and they're so terrified to lose it that they recognize that a free people in a free society, in a free country with the freedom to think for ourselves and cast our votes for who we want to be our present commander in chief, we are the greatest threat to their power.
Donald Trump is the greatest threat to their power, which is why they are willing to do anything and everything in order to try to stop him and even more importantly to take away our freedom.
That's really what's at stake here and why we couldn't be more obvious.
Oh, no, that's okay, Owen, and I think you made a good point there in the break about how that this is going to attract a new voter that just says, you know, F all these people in the government because...
I tried to tell them that this isn't what you need to do.
Don't do this.
And when Biden would get up there and whisper, get vaccinated like a snake.
My family sits there and drank it up.
Well, my family's dancing around with heart conditions, neurological conditions, but they're dancing like idiots today, thinking, oh, we got it this time.
And they're just so it literally sickens me to watch this happen.
And I told my mother, I said, well, I'll tell you what, we'll go and get that monkeypox vaccine that you that I talked you out of.
And I'll tell you what, when the Burt Blue Vaccine comes out, I'll put you the first one in line.
They're going to make that a mandatory thing if Donald Trump doesn't get in.
I said, you really don't understand the repercussions of what just happened today.
And, you know, I am just to the point where we have became a third world country today.
We are a third world country today.
And I don't even foresee an election coming up in November.
I have a feeling.
This is what I have a feeling that's going to happen.
They're going to set off a tactical nuke in New York City while Trump is forced to stay there to get rid of him and to blame it on Putin and start World War III completely.
And that's my biggest fear of that happening before November 5th.
And if you look at they're just they literally they've just they literally have just gone off the rails in what they've been doing.
I literally sat there in 2020 thinking there's no way.
I watched this.
I watched you guys live and I watched the 3,000 300,000 votes come in in Pennsylvania like within seconds for all buffalo for Biden.
I'm like, this is ridiculous.
There's no way this is going to, there's no way.
But they had final pence in office that wouldn't even question it.
And they scared his little ass with the with the January 6th hoax.
I mean, he could have done something to stop all of this.
Then I also think, okay, maybe God needed all this to happen.
And Trump needed to lose to have all this exposed because there was so much exposed since Biden won with the 81 million votes back in 2020.
I mean, our eyes were open to so many things that we wouldn't have seen had Trump won.
I mean, we would have been blinded and they still would have been like going after him like crazy.
But everything was exposed, especially with X being purchased by Elon.
That was like, that was a godsend.
That was a total God thing that happened to have that, to have them lose that tool.
Just, I just want to thank you guys so much.
I'm looking at my family.
I'm looking at my, my mother has left the house maybe 25, 20 times in five years.
I mean, her whole total quality of life has been destroyed by the party that she's skipping around for today.
My sister has lost her mind.
There's something the those shots, especially we're in Nebraska, and I think that they deliberately hit Nebraska harder with Moderna toxicity.
Because I have a cousin who's having myocarditis.
I have my sister's lost her mind.
My little niece, there's something wrong neurologically with them.
They've literally lost their minds.
I stopped my mother from getting boosters.
Thank God.
Thank God.
She got the first two and I said, you're not getting any more.
Let me kind of hone in on what you're talking about, lost their minds.
And they have lost their minds.
And so it's kind of a battle of, it's kind of a battle of wits, if you will, between your mind and your heart.
And I'm guessing, you know, you're talking about your family and your family are probably good people.
Your family are probably good people.
They don't mean harm to anybody, but they're bleeding heart liberals.
And so they think with their heart instead of their head.
And what happens is, and this is why the Democrats use the propaganda of identity politics and they're so committed to it, because they go to vote and they're not thinking about policy.
They're not thinking about the economy or security or safety or common sense or anything.
All they're thinking about is Republican racist, Republican xenophobe, Republican bigot.
And so that's what they do.
That's why the Democrats have pushed this propaganda.
They can't talk policy or results or anything.
They just push the Republican bad, Trump bad.
They do the identity politics game and then they do the ad hominem attack game.
And then you get the bleeding heart liberals like your family that aren't bad people.
They just, oh, I don't want to be a racist.
I don't want to be a homophobe.
I don't want to be a xenophobe.
And they just go vote Democrat because they figure that's all they can do to feel better about themselves that they didn't vote for the bad, dirty Republican.
unidentified
Oh, and it's worse than that, though.
They have been, they literally hang on every word that Rachel Madcow spits out of her mouth.
I mean, they literally have been, MSNBC has literally poisoned them so terribly that they're willing to like literally line up for a bird flu shot.
They can't, I mean, by the way, they're working on a contract.
They're going to do the same thing they did with the COVID vaccine, and they're going to trick you into taking it.
It's not going to be as big, but it's going to be the same thing.
They're going to put, they already got the contracts that they're working on for the bird flu vaccine.
They've already been building up.
But in a way, it's just a giant boondoggle.
In a way, it's just a big steal again with the big pharmaceutical companies.
Thank you for your call, Lou.
With the big pharmaceutical companies because they figured, hey, we just got hundreds of billions of dollars off the last fake pandemic and the last fear-mongering in our vaccines.
Let's just do it again.
We own all the media.
We own the U.S. government.
Let's drive the fear of a bird flu.
Let's bring out a new vaccine and just make another $100 million.
What do you think about the guilty verdict, Christine?
unidentified
Oh, I'm so mad about the Trump thing.
It pisses me off so bad.
I'm enraged.
But I mean, I was nervous all day about it listening, chiming in on all the broadcasts all day, trying to like sign down.
I was praying to God to put like Put the truth into the hearts and minds of these drawers, but it didn't happen.
But I just think that God has his ways.
He's doing this.
He's doing it for a reason.
I mean, no matter what, he wins at the end.
And these people are really going to feel the wrath.
And I mean, we always, it looks so impossible.
Like, people are like, it's never going to happen.
They're never going to be held accountable.
I mean, I think they will, but it's just like we're so desperate after the four years of all isn't that like, you know, I totally relate to what you're saying.
And you live long enough, you realize karma is a real thing, whether it's written in the stars or just the yin and yang of the nature of this planet that we're that we're on, this consciousness that we're in.
But isn't that like the isn't that like the kind of the final hope that we're grabbing onto?
It's like there's no way they get away with this, right?
unidentified
Like there's just no way they have to be going down.
Like they have to be going down.
I want to see it.
I want to see it with my own eyes.
It's been too long since we saw this lawlessness and this law there, just in general, like COVID and everything.
And by the way, real quick, the guy was the previous caller, he was talking about the COVID, his family members all injured.
It's true.
We've still never seen any accountability for that.
They perish because they believed, they chose to believe the lie.
And everyone I know that is injured or died from the COVID vaccine, they were told, they were told, like my cousin, I told her that the mRNA goes through the breast milk.
She's a nurse.
The scumbag governor here mandated nurses.
She was pregnant.
She had the baby.
She got the shot.
I told her ahead of time.
I had the study.
It goes, mRNA goes through the breast milk.
And now her daughter has a neurological problem.
And then it also concentrates in the ovaries.
That's in the Japanese study.
And then she had another baby after that.
He was born, had to get a surgery the first day he was born.
He had to get one testicle removed.
And that's in the Pfizer, to the Pfizer documents, this testicle problem.
Well, see, that's a major realization that a lot of people had post-vaccine that they really will lie to you about a product and force you to take a product that can kill you, period.
And once you accept the true evil, the commitment to evil that we deal with on a daily basis from our government, from our media, everything else kind of falls into place.
So, yeah, they pushed you a vaccine.
They said safe and effective.
They mandated it.
And it was deadly.
And they haven't apologized.
They have showed no remorse.
They have no guilt.
That's the evil.
That's pure, unadulterated evil.
That is lacking a human soul, a human consciousness.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
unidentified
Hey, oh, this is Greg from Alabama.
talked to you a few times once before you went to the clinic and i think the first week after you got out i got a question um what can what kind of mental state does somebody have to be to remain a democrat right now what the hell kind of mental state did they have to be in under complete delusion and brainwashing um believing believing the basic lies or I'm telling you,
I'm probably on about 700 milligrams or more of caffeine now for the day.
So, you know, who knows?
unidentified
Yeah, we're up against the ropes, all of us.
All right, so I love your spirit.
Hopefully you'll be able to play his clip.
So what happens, at least, you know, everywhere that I know of, is when somebody, if I had a new client, a grand jury indictment came down, first thing I do as I walk to the prosecutor's office is say, give me everything you've got.
I file a motion, but it's automatically granted.
Even in a pretty liberal Birmingham, if you look at the jurisdictions of Alabama, it was pretty liberal, especially if you look at it now.
But they give you every single thing they have.
And there's actually a charge and the crime is listed and all the elements of the crime are listed.
That didn't happen here whatsoever.
They were like throwing darts in a dark room.
They didn't know what the, as far as the defense, they had no idea what the hell they were really defending because there was no charge that was actually crimes with elements of the crime.
I think that there's no way that this goes past, well, it might go past the first level of their appellate court division from what I've seen.
Did you notice that two of the judges in that picture of the five were wearing combat boots under their robe?
But if it doesn't win that one, there should be a higher level because New York's weird.
They call stuff the Supreme Court.
You always hear the Supreme Court of New York, this and that.
But the Supreme Court is a trial-level court in New York.
So it's really weird.
I think it's the only state that does that because like the Supreme Court in Texas or Alabama, they are the highest level court, but not in the state of New York.
To interject real quickly, wouldn't it be the ultimate irony if this appeal court, if this appellate court in Manhattan actually did rule in favor of Trump?
Wouldn't that be like the ultimate irony and glory?
I'm not saying it will, but you know what?
If it did, wouldn't that really be a smack in the face?
unidentified
Oh, boy, if that happened, if that happened, I think he would get at least 75% of the person of color vote.
I would think that somebody that's in a position like an appellate court, they shouldn't be nearly as politically motivated as somebody on a lower level court, but you never know.
You never really know with Manhattan.
That last trial, $750 million or whatever it was, what the hell is going on with the jurors of New York.
And I actually tweeted today to MTG.
I said, you need to pass a, you need to at least introduce a bill that says that all jurors in criminal cases should be instructed on the jury instructions of their ability to conduct jury nullification.
It's just kind of strange being in my position and going through all of this before Trump did, going through it with Infowars, going through it on a personal level, and now basically just being shackled and just kind of being like a political prisoner of war.
And it's kind of a different, it's just different.
It's just different than it was in 2016, even to an extent 2020.
But that's the thing is it's not just me.
It's going to be everybody.
That's the point.
Now it's Trump.
So that's what it is.
It's that InfoWars always hits the barbed wire first.
And for every battle, we're the infantry.
We hit the barbed wire first.
And then we climb the barbed wire.
And then everybody else crawls over our bloody, rotting carcasses stuck up in the barbed wire into the field.
So it just, it just kind of feels like the same thing.
It's like I'm barely clean of life, kind of like looking up, like, hey, are you going to go win the fight now?
After the news today, much like everyone else, my knee-jerk reaction was to be like pissed off and to feel all the feelings that anybody who loves this country would feel.
So, like every normal millennial, I decided to reread George Washington's farewell address as he was leaving office to see if anything jumped out.
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.
Let it simply be asked: where is the security for property, for reputation, for life?
If the sense of religious obligation deserts the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice.
And let us, with caution, indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.
Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.
So that jumped out for all the obvious reasons.
And yes, I think that tomorrow we need to bootstrap it, get back to work, register voters, make sure they can get to the polls, you know, get good information out there.
But I think there's a bigger, there's a bigger battle we have here.
We need to repent and we need to win souls for Christ, because I don't think there's any way to restore this country properly without getting back to the moral standard.
And let's be real, there isn't true morality outside of that.
There's no doubt this country is under God's judgment.
And unfortunately, that's, I mean, obviously, a lot of people are going to suffer that you might say don't deserve it.
But the 50 million plus babies we've aborted, the bombs that we've dropped all over the planet, the people we've killed all over the planet for money and power and oil and everything else.
I mean, this country is under judgment.
And if we, the people, don't fix it ourselves, then it's going to be, it's, it's going to be hell to pay.
And so I think we're just getting a taste of that now.
unidentified
I don't disagree.
Like, we've done, I mean, horrific things.
And that's something that I read a lot of the founding documents and just letters between the founding fathers and mothers back then.
They talk about providence is what they call it, but it was, you know, God's interference in their lives.
And they believe that they were born for this.
And the fact that Washington used to walk in front of the lions on his horse back and forth and somehow never got shot.
No, no, I just wanted to actually bring the fact that the reason I said that is that I think a lot of people are wondering how is it that these judges get away with it?
Like, as far as checks and balances and stuff, you know, I'm not a legal scholar, but you think like Robert Barnes, I know he's been kind of, he's supposed to come on a few times the last few days and he didn't.
But I just want to hear from like more retired judges and I want to hear from more constitutional lawyers and figure out what is the repercussions for these out of their mind Soros funded judges.
Like, is there repercussions or is this just going to continue to happen and nothing ever happens to these people?
Conservatives are mostly spineless politically, or they have this belief that somehow they have to maintain the integrity of the system, or that if they act with integrity or ethically, then the Democrats will match suit.
Both of these beliefs are flawed and inherently failed.
And so it's never going to work.
So yeah, somebody has to come in there with a spine.
But it's all the same thing.
No, we can shut down the federal government.
Yes, we can shut down the FBI.
We'll be fine.
We can shut down the CIA.
We'll be fine.
We will survive.
And if you think that, oh, well, we're not going to go after Biden because we don't want to engage in this political warfare now.
We have to maintain some integrity.
Then you lose.
They're never going to reciprocate that belief.
And so you lose.
So as soon as the Republicans shake these fears and these beliefs, it'll be game over.
And I am so happy to be on this show on such an important day in American history because if we don't stop this now, we are done.
And I don't mean now.
I mean right now, as in yesterday, Judge Murshan today watched my client.
I watched him.
I watched the jury say guilty 34 times and I watched him.
And he looked at my client and he covered his mouth and he covered his mouth probably because he was smiling.
Let's be very clear.
This judge has Bannon, Weiselberg, and no shock to me, Trump.
And he is 100% a man that should have recused himself.
But our justice system is so broken right now, Sean.
And I want to also remind the American people of one thing.
I am a legal spokesperson.
I am also an American, and I will be voting for Trump not because of President Trump, who I obviously support, but because I support America, and so does he.
Our country is currently in a serious state, and we cannot look at this as anything other than a serious state of affairs where we have an issue where people are using politics in the legal courtroom.
It cannot happen anymore.
I have seen it.
I have been in court since October, trial after trial after trial for 15 years.
I have been practicing law.
I have never seen anything like this in my life.
And that judge intentionally wouldn't even allow in pretrial proceedings that the court will not report.
They would not allow us to bring up that President Trump didn't even take deductions.
He didn't do anything wrong.
His CFO, him, the Trump organization, the family, nothing.
But that evidence was kept away from the jury and it is intentional.
This is not America.
And I'm speaking to MSNBC viewers and CNN viewers, the Rachel Maddows, the Caitlin Collins.
It is time to come together because this administration does not care about us.
All right, joining us now, Texas Senator Ted Cruz is with us.
Senator, you know, if you look at this cumulatively, and I mentioned Hillary Clinton, no reasonable prosecutor will prosecute top secret classified information.
My name is, uh, my name is Robert from Oklahoma City.
Um, I'm.
I'm just glad that you're upset because, you know, you flip through the channels and no one else is upset.
I was watching Newsmax, which I paid for.
I liked him for a while, but they were just sitting there like it was a normal day.
And, you know, whatever the guy's name was that was on there, he was like, well, kind of like the OJ trial, not a big deal.
Everything's going to be fine, you know.
So I just didn't really like the way they were doing that, so I canceled that immediately and I flipped over to InfoWars and kind of wanted to see what you had to say.
So, so it's kind of like the same thing where in 2016, in 2016, InfoWars was the number one factor outside of Donald Trump himself.
InfoWars was the number one factor in getting Trump over the hump and the nomination and the election.
Okay.
2020, that was not the case.
2020, now Trump was his own guy.
He learned to support InfoWars.
Could have supported Trump, not supported Trump.
It wouldn't have made a difference.
So it's the same thing now with all this stuff.
So in 2020, okay, they stole the election.
What are we going to do?
All right.
Well, let's organize.
Let's have a peaceful protest and let's try to have a congressional investigation of the voting results and the law.
And we did it.
And they got us.
They got us.
And so, and so I understand why people call in and look for leadership and answers and stuff from InfoWars.
But I mean, it's not to say that we still don't have an impact.
What's important about us is being on air, doing the live coverage, having the big guests, fighting back against the fake news and the information war, beating the narrative.
But I mean, when people are asking, what do you do about this?
What do we do about that?
I mean, you're basically talking to a dead guy on the battlefield.
So it's like our impact is like Obi-Wan Kenobi being struck down.
Look, I'm, you know, it's Alex's deal to tell and to find out the eventual fate of InfoWars.
But I got to tell you, after seeing this today, I feel like I feel like something bad is about to happen to InfoWars.
I'm going to be honest.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
And I hope not, man.
Me and all my little brothers and my dad, we have the better come and take it, shirt, man.
We're big supporters of you.
But after today, man, it's just, I've never felt this before.
Like, you know, I've been in politics since I was, you know, I don't want to say this, but, you know, I did support McCain back then because my family were basically establishment Republicans until Trump pointed out all the bullshit.
But it's just, I've never felt like this before, man.
And all my, like, everybody right now, I've called my family, my friends, all my buddies.
Like, this is like, I don't want to say we're in civil war, not civil war mindset of we think it's going to happen, but if this, if this election does not pan out how it should be, and how all the poll numbers and how every single, I mean, look at Joe Biden's freaking Twitter page right now, dude.
Look at all the comments on Joe Biden's Twitter page.
But just like when you get in the ring with Mike Tyson, you know that right hook is heavy, but then you get hit with it and it's like, yep, that's a Mike Tyson right hook.
That's what happened today.
We got hit with a Mike Tyson right hook and we're feeling the effects.
unidentified
Yeah.
And I, I mean, like he's going to win.
There's no, he won in 2020.
There's no doubt about it.
He's going to win again.
It's just like, it's the voter bullshit.
It's all the bullshit that the media stirs up, and it's all the bullshit that they try to say what it is, and it's not.
But I'm just saying, dude, I'm living in Colorado right now, and I'm from Texas.
I'm working in Colorado, which is unfortunate, but it's a whole different world from living in rural Texas, I can tell you that.
But living here, and the state that tried to already put Trump down, I am seeing Trump flags here like freaking crazy.
I'm seeing these freaking four-by-four freaking pickup trucks every day.
And hell, you've already stole my thunder comment-wise, because the first thing that came to mind when Haba was on with Hannity was literally you standing up on stage and asking her flat out, Are you sure that you're ready for what you're about to deal with?
Are you sure you're ready for this?
Oh, yeah.
And then look at the dismay and shock on her face with Hannity.
It's funny, too, because, I mean, obviously working under Alex Jones has taught me a lot and given me a lot more experience than most people that are my age in the media at 34 years old.
Yeah, somebody else did the way that somebody else had mentioned that.
I'll kind of dig into it now while you're talking.
unidentified
So I'll go through a quick blurb.
Elected Democrats' disdain for President Trump and his voters was on display Wednesday.
Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers announced that he preemptively declared a state of emergency from July 15 to 18 to the RNC convention being held in Milwaukee.
Evers state of emergency declaration reads that the United States Department of Homeland Security declared the RNC convention a quote national special security event without proof or reasoning.
Evers state of emergency reads that the RNC convention is a threat of disaster and security interests are at hand.
Another interesting part of Evers emergency declaration is that it gives specific instructions to police not to impede quote peaceful protesters.
This implies that Evers intends to give Antifa free reign to protest the RNC convention.
Evers' hypocrisy on this subject is quite resounding.
As in 2020, Evers allowed 24 hours of Antifa BLM riding in Kenosha, bringing it down before declaring a state of emergency.
Evers' actions prove that Joe Biden's America has two sets of rules for Democrats and Trump supporters.
And just ending on, I just finished about two weeks of reporting at UW-Milwaukee, uncovering their encampment.
He's from Plymouth, Wisconsin, went to the University of Wisconsin-Madison, 72 years old, been the governor since 2019.
Now, what's interesting about what the caller just said, because it seems to be a bit counterintuitive here, and I'm just going to show you some of these headlines: Governor Tony Evers declared a state of emergency in Milwaukee and its surrounding areas.
The state of emergency is related to the Republican National Convention.
So, basically, admitting so, so admitting that the Democrats are obviously going to cause violence.
I mean, that's what I mean.
What threat does Trump pose or Republican pose?
None.
So, obviously, admitting it's going to be the Democrats showing up, committing acts of violence, but then saying, oh, the peaceful protest can't be disrupted.
So, I don't really understand the move here.
Maybe he just wanted to make headlines or, you know, thinking we can just blame it on Trump or whatever.
or projecting like, oh, Republicans are violence when it's obviously Democrats that are violent.
But, or maybe there's going to be so many Trump supporters that show up, they're just going to, it's going to be so huge that they just need the extra resources.
Now, remember, so the convention starts July 15th.
His sentencing is July 11th.
So, there's going to be massive momentum.
There's going to be massive momentum behind Trump before that.
So, state of the emergency.
It's just a Democrat wanting to pile on.
It's just a Democrat wanting to make headlines.
It's just a Democrat wanting to project that somehow Trump or Trump supporters are violent.
That's what I see.
But of course, of course, the Democrats are going to plan mass riots and violence.
Of course, they are.
They already are.
But they're going to do it at the Biden conference, too.
My name is Ahmed, and I am from the motherfucking New York City where they're trying to take down Uncle Donnie as we speak, and it ain't going to work.
They're really misreading this because, again, yeah, obviously Trump has more support and this political corruption against Trump is only going to give him even more support.
People are just able to process a little better being around others like them, because what bothered me most of all about today was so many people I know were just pretty much going on about their lives, and it didn't really matter.
But what I wanted to say was, I think that maybe we need to try a different tactic.
I mean, you have the people on the progressive side, and they're never going to change.
They drank the Kool-Aid.
They're going to, you know, there's nothing you could say to them.
We have people on our side that are, yeah, Trump, whatever, and raging, and on and on with that.
But you have a lot of people that are in the middle for one reason or another.
Either they're just not engaged, you know, busy with their lives.
I've noticed a lot of, I mean, there are some younger people that are engaged.
There are a lot that aren't.
And to me, what we need to do is forget about all the personalities involved, the orange man bed and all that nonsense.
What we need to do is to find that one thing that everybody can relate to.
And as far as this conviction goes, what I see and what I've been seeing and what I saw with what happened to you is, well, hey, if they can do this to Trump, what could they do to a nobody that happens to get in the way?
And people aren't, they're not making that step forward to realize, hey, you know, today it's him, tomorrow it's me.
And what we need to do is we need to point out not only what happened to Trump and what happened to you, there's been a lot of injustice going on.
That guy, Carbon Mike, for example, other people involved with January 6th.
That guy that was trying to help somebody in the subway when the person got killed.
And then you hear about all these people that are walking away from all kinds of violent crimes.
Nobody says anything.
That's something, for example, that everybody can relate to because it's basic safety.
You know, it's the same thing with the economy.
I don't know what it is that's going to reach people, but there is something.
And I'm tired of just bemoaning everything that's been going on.
Well, let me let me let me let me kind of let's do let's do let's do full spectrum analysis here, because I actually I disagree with that point.
And I've made and I've made this clear before that they actually have done something to stop the election from being stolen at the ballot box.
They actually have.
They have a bunch of lawyers and poll watchers ready to go.
And we know what they do.
We know how they stuff the ballots at three thirty in the morning, how they lie about a water main break, how they double count ballots in the right areas to get the turnout.
But again, maybe I should be more clear.
I don't think they let Trump get to November 5th.
I don't think they let Trump get to November 5th.
I think that is maybe the better message, because if we get a vote and we get a fair result, then it's over.
Or you can just argue that the machines don't work and that's a whole different story.
But I'm thinking maybe they just don't even let Trump get to November 5th.
There's one variable here that we didn't have back then.
Yeah, you and I can say that, and a lot of other people can, but there have been scads of people over the last few years that have been coming into this country.
What about them?
They're going to have an effect.
See, this is why you got to find the one thing that hits everybody equally.
Some people say it's your wallet.
Some people say it's safety.
Whatever it is, something is going to wake somebody up.
You know, a long time ago, there was this commercial.
I know you must know about it.
It was a little girl in a field with a daisy.
It was about the Vietnam War.
It was only played once.
And it was talking about, I don't know if it was the atomic bomb, nuclear bomb, some bomb.
And she's just sitting there playing and playing with the flower.
And then all of a sudden, the bomb hits and she was gone.
A commercial like that caused Johnson to drop out and changed everything.
I think it's more things are just going to get so bad.
I mean, the illegal immigration issue is one, that it's just so bad that they're just going to be so sick of Biden and they're not going to be able to blame it all on Trump.
I mean, hell, they'll be in prison.
They'll try to blame it on him.
Here's the feeling I get where we're at right now.
There's a scene at the end of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, the good one from decades ago, where they're losing the battle in the final scene.
And I forget all the characters' names and everything, but they're losing the battle in the final scene.
And it's like hopeless and it's all over.
And then right before they're about to lose, the army of ghosts comes in to their saving.
And then it's just like the numbers are so overwhelming that they just literally wipe out the entire enemy army, just like that, right when it was certain death.
So I feel like that's kind of the moment we're waiting for.
Now, the ghost army in this case is the sleeping Americans.
The ghost army in this case is the Americans that still don't have a clue what's going on.
Well, okay, so cultural revolution, they always use the young and they want to fight against and try to take control and make the patriots believe that they are the, how do you put it?
If you live in a blue area, you have no chance of justice.
None at all.
unidentified
Yes.
Absolutely.
Well, Indiana is a red state and nobody messes around here.
We don't have all those problems in New York City.
We don't have those problems in Chicago.
It doesn't happen here.
Unless it's Indianapolis and, you know, like the metropolitan areas.
But it seems like they're trying to, you know, like put pressure down on the patriots that if you disagree, this is what you're going to get when it comes to it today.
Oh, oh, well, especially talking about anybody that tries to be the next Trump.
I mean, that's the real aim here: is that, oh, anybody that thinks they can climb the political ladder and be the next Trump, we will destroy you.
unidentified
Absolutely.
That's what they're trying to project to the nation.
This is who we are, and you have no say.
When in the Constitution, it says we the people, not we, the politician.
And what really is going to matter the most is the midterms, the congressional elections.
We need to focus on the presidential, but we need to focus on the congressionals also.
When you see these congressionals coming in with $50 million to get their votes, you can kind of be like, wait a second, maybe we shouldn't vote that person in because they're being paid to get that position.
So they're going to go with everything that these elites are that are trying to push.
And they're going to, when it comes to Washington, they're going to vote for that.
Everything that this, this, how do you put it?
They're going to vote for everything that they're trying to push because they were paid for just to get in that position.
So, like here in Indiana, we got like some farmers that low budget.
Yeah, I wanted to bring up, I thought it was kind of weird that there was like just over 33 counts guilty counts for Trump.
You know, like the weird and Illuminati people are obsessed with like 32 and 33.
So they did like 34.
So I thought that was kind of weird, you know, and those same people say like, you know, chaos out of order, order out of chaos.
Obviously, they're getting that.
You know, this is just chaos going down right now.
And the shining crown jewel, the American judicial system is now kaput, at least as far as New York goes.
And then the other thing I was wondering is like, since you're, you always talk about the betting over unders, what's your over-under betting odds on the religious breakdown of the 12 jurors, you think?
Oh, I think six of the jurors were Jewish, and that has something to do with it because they want the war with Israel and Palestine and Iran to go into high gear and the war with Ukraine.
And, you know, America has to be the foot soldiers for that war.
I think you probably mostly had probably a majority of the jury was Trump haters, whatever religious affiliation they're with.
Probably not Jewish, honestly, but either way, it's majority Trump haters.
And then my guess is the judge and the other jurors were able to massage any holdouts and just get him to vote for the guilty verdict and probably just maybe even convince them that, hey, we're going to be here forever.
So why don't you just, why don't you just vote guilty so we can go home?
Yeah, I guess the main thing is, is I guess with this, with this guilty verdict on Trump, I guess what they're going to be, it's going to be a lot of, like Alex said earlier, it's going to be a lot of false, I mean, a lot of false stuff going on.
A lot of, who knows what they're going to do, blaming it on the Patriots and Trump supporters because of what they did.
It seemed like they have to have an excuse for that.
And it seems like we're a better time for them to start doing this blocker tour stuff like they did you in January 6th.
I just, I don't even know how many, even if they put Trump in jail, I guess it's people say, well, he's got civil service or whatever it is to take care of him and look after him.
Well, Secret Service, if Trump, if Trump goes to Rikers, Secret Service takes over the whole operation, basically.
Oh, they'll have, yeah, they'll have jurisdiction over everybody as soon as Trump goes into that building.
That's just kind of the flow of power.
unidentified
So I was just thinking of maybe just a group of guys, you know, that could be easily taken over.
You know, what I'm trying to, you know, if they can get rid of Trump, that's the whole thing, in my opinion.
I guess we should just basically look fast, you know, and put our hands in God because if they continue with what they're doing right now, we got some hard times coming, brother.
By the way, somebody's put the link to the video where I was talking to Haba, basically trying to warn her about how bad it would be, and I couldn't open it.
So if you want to send it again, I'll try to open it and play it.
I think, you know, we, of course, have to, if we can make it to the election, then and Trump actually become president.
But even if we just take it that far, we advance way more than I believe we will.
But regardless, you know, with the school systems the way they are, when I talk to people, like I talk to, I'm older, but I talk to a lot of younger people, and they have no idea about anything.
You know, they don't even, they make his our history.
So I was talking about the younger people, how we really need to get the fire lit under them, motivate them to pay attention, find out what's going on in the government, be aware to vote.
You know, I've talked to so many people that have never voted or that don't plan to vote now.
And we need to get in the schools and put the history back into our high school and into our all of our schools, you know, every grade.
But Piper View has a great content for children and patriotism.
But we just really, you know, we're at the end and everything I say, people look at me like I am crazy because there's just so much.
You can't tell them what these borders are open and how they're viewing our farmers and how many times businesses are.
I'm here to bring it to resonate with the people, lowest common denominator, easiest to make sense of, common sense, logic, and reasoning, presentable, palatable.
And you know what?
Be a little entertaining if I can.
Be easy to look at if I can.
And so that's what I do.
What I do.
I think I've been effective.
I'm not saying I'm not saying talking about it and broadcasting is the answer to all the problems, but if we're going to have a true political, cultural, peaceful revolution, it's going to be of the mind, of the body, of the soul.
But I think what's going on and what's pretty obvious is that, you know, while Trump's in jail, everything is going to get escalated with this World War III.
And, you know, Putin, they're testing him.
And he's going to pretty much go nuclear any moment now.
And, you know, Trump's going to be in jail and there's going to be no election.
And it's pretty much like, I would say, said in stone at this point.
Because I feel like with Trump, he's going to get in the office.
But if he doesn't, if we're not telling him what we need as a conservative party, then is he really going to get everything done or is it just going to be like the first term?
And to your point, it's hard to unify conservatives.
And you've got everything just lists it all makes sense to me.
I mean, we went to war over a 2% tax with Britain.
But it's, I guess, what I hear you describing with the Conservative Party in the modern age of politics is almost a nihilistic outcome where we can't do anything because we're independent free thinkers.
And it's just tough to figure out exactly what we should be prioritizing versus what we can get later on.
There's some issues I think we all agree with, but that's the problem is, you know, the Democrats stay in unison on message when they need to, and Republicans rarely do.
Hey, no, I threw something in the chat a few minutes ago.
And I'm just wondering, because the upside-down flag is like, I'm almost thinking that it's actually starting to trend now because I was listening to your show today.
And I know you got, you have the live news updates and stuff, but a new symbol that would be here for understanding like what the last caller just described is it is the upside-down flag.
And, you know, the greatest part about that is, is that the U.S. flag laws actually resemble what that means.
And that's where you're backed by regulation, you're backed by law, and you're actually backed by all of the culture of even the military on this.
And you can probably go on Twitter right now and just see everybody, including General Flynn as of about, I think, an hour ago.
That broke my heart when he literally posted his new profile picture.
And it is the upside down turned American flag.
And when a general, in my instance, does that on behalf of like the military, that is a very, very semblance point to where there is a unification structure amongst not only the military here in the United States, but the American people.
And I just wanted to bring that to your attention because that breaks my heart.
And I expressed that to him in a private message earlier.
But please, please take credence to what that actually means.
And there is laws that abide by that picture and semblance of an upside-down American flag.
And I don't want to take away from the other callers, but as a person, veteran, serving U.S. member, please just take credence to that because there's a reason why even General Flynn, as of tonight, put that up.
A couple of months ago on your show, you asked a question that's taken me a long time to answer.
And the question was: what kind of karmic retribution does Trump deserve?
I've mulled that over for a long time.
And the answer that I've come to is that it's not what Trump deserves, it's what we all deserve.
Because we've all been kind of asleep at the wheel.
And sorry if you hear water in the background, I'm in the hot tub.
He made mistakes, costly mistakes, things that were important to all of us.
But if he had marched, you know, into 2020 as a president-elect and just started slashing off heads, people would have called him a tyrant.
I truly believe that the steal of 2020 had to happen because without it, people wouldn't have seen.
And the persecution of Trump and the persecution of Jones, and especially the persecution of you, a young man, who should be, you know, having a family and doing other things than this, these things had to happen.
You invoked the holy trilogy, you know, the Lord of the Rings movie a little bit back.
And you know how the multiple occasions Samuel said this was meant to happen and that was meant to happen.
So Bilbo was meant to sign the ring and therefore you were meant to have the ring.
And he said it in the other two movies as well.
And I truly believe that what's going on now today, even with the Trump situation today, these things are meant to happen.
Because without that, people don't see.
They don't get it.
They're not waking up.
Like you said, the ghosts on the ship, they're not waking up without this.
And maybe, maybe in a way, Trump's karma is hitting him now.
He pushed the vaccine.
He let Fauci push the vaccine.
He said it was safe and effective with the rest of them.
He's the godfather of Operation Warp Speed.
So, you know, maybe this is his little karma for being involved in that.
And maybe he gets through that and that'll be his price to pay.
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Maybe.
But I truly believe that without all of this having happened, that none of us were going to see the truth.
I mean, I've never, I've never voted Democrat in my life, except for one time in New Orleans where there was no Republicans on the ballot.
But I guess from Ronald Reagan's perspective, that means I don't have a heart, but I do have a heart.
And but I also have a brain.
And, you know, from that perspective, these people are wrong and they're evil and they're bad.
And they've always been wrong and evil and bad.
But it takes, it takes a certain amount of perspective and a certain amount of seeing the things that are going on to wake the regular people up, the ghosts on the ship, as you say.
Well, until you've actually faced this pure unadulterated evil in the eye and experienced it, it's hard to even, it's hard to even perceive just how bad it is.
They really truly are soulless ghouls.
They do not care what they destroy.
They do not care who they destroy.
They literally, it's like they have no soul.
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They have no soul.
They don't.
And, you know, I'm involved heavily with my church.
I teach four-year-old Sunday school.
And that's been for like 10 years, 12 years, I guess.
And I'm in a huge growth community outside of Houston, you know, and we have people of all colors, all race, all nationalities, not a bunch of, you know, just white going gun-toting folks.
You know, it's Indians and Nigerians and all these people.
And they're flocking to our church, non-denominational, and it grows and it keeps growing and keeps growing.
And while I'm sorry for your persecution and that of yours and Trump and Donald and Trump or Jones, you're making a difference.
I know sometimes you're frustrated and you don't see that you are, but you really are.
People are afraid.
And until people return to God, God gave us free will.
And until people use that free will to return to God, the persecution continues.
And you guys are, you know, the leaders right now.
You're the ones on the razor wire.
But the rest of us are going to follow you.
We have to.
Because we have no choice now.
So I know you're angry and I can sense it.
I've been watching you almost every day for the past four years.
And, you know, was really sorry about, you know, what happened with you and going away to the federal system.
So point that I wanted to make, though, is I just don't, I don't come across a lot of people that wind up having conversations with people on the left.
And I would say, you know, the more effective group to try and engage with on the left would be kind of the more moderate folks that are like decent people.
And I know depending on where you live, that can, you know, can be difficult to find those people.
But, you know, I just see kind of a lot of, you know, one of the callers before was just kind of talking about how he thinks a lot of the conservative.
folks are getting pulled in a lot of directions.
And I think that is definitely true.
And so yeah, I just think that, you know, just one of my observations is, you know, and I guess the question to you is, do you see a lot of people out there that are kind of trying to figure out how to speak in a way to,
you know, reach folks on the left that might be willing to listen instead of kind of maybe using some of the talking points that are like geared toward the base who already gets it and kind of like in the echo chamber and all fired up and angry.
And, you know, don't you see this?
When it's like a lot of these people, even intelligent people, they just don't see it.
Right.
And if you, so I think, you know, kind of a one way of doing this, I think, is a more, almost a more effective thing to ask somebody, I find, is instead of going to their conclusion, like, hey, do you support Biden?
Do you support Trump?
Or, you know, do you, do you agree with this?
Do you agree with that?
Going to a conclusion, it's almost more effective, I think, to just ask people where they get their news.
And if you don't agree on your sources of news, then you're probably not going to agree on your conclusions.
And so I think, you know, there's just a few things like that and would love to hear kind of your take on that kind of aspect of things.
Well, here's what I've learned over the years dealing with the left.
And I used to deal with them frequently in the streets.
And it was kind of a process for me where when I first, and this is really, I think the best example of this, ironically enough, was the famous Aid Skrillix Carl de Cuck video from 2006.
If you haven't seen it, I don't know.
It's banned.
It's been banned everywhere, but you might be able to still find it out there.
When I first started to kind of get involved politically and do activism type stuff, I assumed everybody would want to know the truth.
I didn't come at it from a left or a right paradigm.
I was anti-government.
I was an anti-government, didn't like the right or the left.
And so I was just kind of a centrist, you know, a libertarian type, anti-government type, you know, free thinking type, whatever.
And so when I kind of first had my red pill experience or understanding how America works, the world works, what we face and all that stuff, I assumed people would be receptive to the information because at one point I was that person.
I was an ignorant person.
I didn't care about politics.
I didn't understand how everything worked.
Hell, at a certain point in my life, I was a liberal in college, kind of a leftist, not full-blown, but some leftist tendencies.
I was even a nihilist at one point, like culturally, religiously.
So I've been there.
And so my assumption was, oh, I can talk to a leftist or I can talk to a conservative or I can talk to all these people and they'll want the information.
Like, oh my gosh, like there's a hidden world out there.
There's hidden information out there.
There's stuff going on right in front of you that you can't see.
I thought that they wanted to see it.
And it would turn out conservatives would be at least willing to talk about it, discuss it, maybe open their eyes to it.
But what I learned was that liberals don't.
They don't want to know the truth.
They're not interested in the real world.
They're not interested in how the world works.
They're not interested in the information.
They're just not.
They're interested in the propaganda.
They're interested in the deception.
They're interested in whatever you like.
They don't like.
They're interested in destroying you.
So I learned that real quickly.
And it wasn't that it turned me into a conservative or anything.
It's just like because of that, it was like, oh, he's a right-winger.
He's a conservative.
He's a Trump supporter, which I did support Trump.
But I never came at it from the right or the left.
I came at it from, hey, there's fluoride in the water.
Hey, they do false flags to lie us into wars.
Hey, the news media is lying to you.
Hey, the government's bought and paid for.
And the left was just totally unreceptive to it.
Now, the right would be receptive, but they'd have different ideas and debate.
The left, not interested.
Not interested.
And so then it became this thing where I would go out on the streets and I would just debate liberals or embarrass liberals, make liberals look as stupid as they are because they don't know anything.
They legitimately do not know anything.
And they're so predictable because they all get their information from the same sources.
And so you know exactly what they're going to say.
You know exactly what they're going to do in response to things that you said.
So, okay, to get to your question, do you try to change your language?
Do you try to find a way to speak to them?
No, they're not interested.
And I'm sorry to say that.
There is nothing you can do.
And by the way, it's the same for everybody here.
There is nothing you can do or say to a hardcore Trump hater, a hardcore leftist, a hardcore liberal.
There is nothing you can say, nothing you can do that will change them.
Nothing.
The only thing that can is something has to happen to them in the real world.
They have to have their own organic experience in the real world that wakes them up.
That's the only way it's going to happen.
Only way.
So you can try to communicate with them.
Bless your heart if you do.
Good luck.
But that's not what it's going to be.
And so that's why I think the better approach is to just live a lifestyle that delivers for you.
Live a lifestyle that makes you happy, you healthy.
You know, I was a liberal, and then I live in a city that is going to hell, and I see everything that's happening.
Do you think that it is, you know, Donald Trump should drop the deporting of the illegals for now because he needs all hands on deck?
Like, Latinos are very conservative.
I come from El Salvador.
We love our dictator, you know, Bukele.
He shuts, you know, crime down like no other.
He has an 85%, I mean, 85% approval rating.
Latinos are conservative.
We're Catholics.
Yeah, we have our issues.
Yes, crime is out of control.
But I think that he needs to drop the deport all the illegal stuff, get all the Latinos on deck because Latinos are not for that whole, you know, thems are crazy, dude.
Like they're the whole trans thing like turns them off.
My family's like, what the hell is that?
They uncomfortably vote for Democrats because of the immigration thing.
You know, it's like, I know that, I know that a country needs its borders, but we're here.
I think as a political message in the campaign, not leaning into the deportation issue, I could see where strategically that would maybe benefit him.
And, you know, here's another thing that some people can't come to grips with.
And I get it.
Believe me, I get it.
But Trump is a politician now, and he's trying to win an election.
And so you have to remember, a lot of things he says, a lot of things he does is purely because he's a politician trying to win an election.
So he's going to do and say things that are sour, but that's just the nature of the game.
He's got to win election.
So he's doing a lot of things.
Like, oh, like, oh, Nikki Haley, she'll be on our team.
Gross.
He's a politician trying to win an election.
That's why he does it.
So, okay.
I think deportation is a real issue.
Is it realistic to say you're going to deport 20, 30 million illegal migrants?
Maybe, maybe not.
I think there's ways to do it with policy.
You cut off the welfare state and you make a policy that if a non-citizen here illegally gets arrested committing a crime, they get deported immediately.
And the problem will solve itself, I think, over time.
I just heard Alex Jones talking about right after this Trump verdict, Biden just authorized strikes in Russia and just how this is kind of getting out of control now.
You know, this selective service just authorized or is trying to authorize automated draft for all males between 18 and 26.
And now Biden is now Biden is authorizing the use of U.S. weapons in Russia.
And, you know, right after this, you know, I don't think it's coincidence that this is all happening right after the Trump conviction.
And I think they're getting ready to pull us into World War III.
Pressure on Biden to let Ukraine strike Russia with U.S. weapons.
Biden secretly gave Ukraine permission to strike inside Russia with U.S. weapons.
I'm just reading the headlines.
So, you know, I'd be careful with any of this.
There's a lot of fake news out there, and Biden can't even give himself permission to take a dump.
So that doesn't really change the situation.
There's still this desire from the deep state and the military industrial complex to strike Russia or their saber rattling to try to get Russia to launch a first strike.
But let's be perfectly clear.
I mean, I don't know how dumb these people are.
The U.S. military is in no position to fight and win a war right now.
None.
They're run by morons.
That's not to say that there aren't great men and women that are in the military, but the leadership is a bunch of morons.
They can't even get a pier installed off the coast of Gaza.
That falls into the sea.
It's gone.
It's done.
$320 million.
They got trannies everywhere.
They got gays everywhere.
They are in no position to fight or win a war.
Russia, on the other hand, has all the abilities to fight and win a war right now.
So I'm sure that they realize this.
So I don't really know what the end goal here is other than to just launder a bunch of money and weapons through Ukraine.
But saying Biden's giving permission, it almost doesn't even matter.
They'll do whatever the hell they want, Biden approval or not.
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Yeah, I mean, it's just mind-blowing how everything is happening all at the same time.
You know, they're convicting Trump.
It's like the end of our republic as we know it, democracy, as we know it.
Our country is going to shit.
And then at the same time, they're trying to goad Russia and Putin into responding, even if it is just the headline.
You know, I'm sure that he sees these headlines as well.
And, you know, before we strike or before Ukraine strikes first, you know, I'm sure that they're preparing.
And, you know, I feel like it's just something to just something they're trying to do to prevent this election, you know, whether it be getting us into this, getting us into a war.
And then they say they postpone the election or some kind of national emergency or, you know, it's just, I don't know, it's wild, wild times that we're living in right now.
Yeah, I mean, I suppose that's always on the table, some big event like that to stop the election.
Of course, Zelensky is essentially a dictator in Ukraine.
They don't have elections there anymore.
I wouldn't be surprised if Netanyahu cancels the next election.
Seems to be the season.
And so I don't know if they would pull that off here, but it is the season.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
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Paul from Chicago, Bahaminia, if you remember me.
But, you know, it's interesting because my mom, she's from Ukraine, and my dad is from Russia.
But I've been in the United States since 1999.
I've been a listener of Infowars for a very long time, I want to say since 2008.
And today, you know, just I had to take off work today because it's just watching this country get into the same position where like my family comes from.
And just like it's like this feeling of like your ground is just taken off from the bottom.
The gravity is not even there.
And it's just like, is this really where it's going?
But, you know, I just want to say something.
It's like, you know, when you read the Bible and when Jesus died on the cross, all the disciples and everybody, they just all scattered.
It's like, it's almost like that same kind of feeling where you feel like a little hopeless, but at the same time, it's like God had a plan for all of this, you know, because if you think about what happened in the last four years, none of this would have been exposed if Trump won 2020, right?
Which he did, but like the way it all ended up.
But none of this was exposed.
So at the end of the day, it's like, I feel like we are that like that Friday night when Jesus died.
And I'm not comparing Trump to Jesus, but you know, that feeling, it's just like you think everything is going to plan.
But I think like there's a bigger plan for all of this.
And we just kind of have to just wait and see what happens because this feeling of just being hopeless is just unreal sometimes.
I'm Gaz from the UK, a bit late over here, but yeah, I can't tell when you get, it's a bit of a lag going on between the Skype thing, but I'm on now anyway, sorry.
Yeah, I don't know what I want to really say, there's so much to say, but overall I think this is like a positive thing in that it builds a reaction from people and from all your calls as tonight, it's more of a peaceful approach
and, you know, really, you know, when you say like InfoWars is tip their spear and things like that, it's like these people who are listening get it and they know that there's a divide on both sides as well and it's about finding that way to translate it all and I see everyone's got the debates of Trump is
bad, Trump is good, but I just think at the end of the day they're just characters on a, on the world stage and it's our way to communicate with those who aren't really awake to everything to say, well, you know, it's you next, if they can do that to him, they'll do it to
you, like, and everyone thinks about money and stuff as well, so it's just showing, but when I see the divide on the trufer side, it's more like, there's a lot of division attacking people who took the jabs, like, I guess I understand why people are angry because there was such unknown and that it could all hurt us as well when they all jumped into
it, but we're past that stage now and it is what it is and we're being attacked on so many different fronts anyway that we need to not hit them with fear and anger,
but give them solutions like that woman you recently interviewed about the detox and stuff, that's like a really good video to show like a neutral ground and give solutions, even if they're not ready to take it, leave it with them and, but when you're attacking them and it's just
do, it's just playing into their hands, like, like causing this division, imagine if you were them, you've taken the jab, you've woken up and everything and you're being attacked and insulted, it's almost people put themselves, you know, at a higher level and I know it's hard to like not do that because we see things so
clearly, but it's like you said before, everyone has to go through their own experience to get it and a lot of the people who are awake, especially in the UK, are people who've been financially hit by it and, you know, the schooling
system, it's like we're all victims in a way, we need to understand that and yeah, I think overall it's a positive because it's given us the talking points to show Trump as
a, even if you want to call the word, the word puppet, people need to start learning how to not get angry at the puppets, but learn how to use them to talk to your locals in a way that they understand it, but we have the power to speak something more powerful than the TV, we have real life experience they can relate to and I guess that's kind of the, the, the point I want to make, sorry, I'm just rambling now.
Well, I appreciate you calling in late from the UK.
I don't see how, I mean, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of how big is the awakening because of this.
I mean, this is the, this is the biggest impact of how corrupt things are.
I would say that we've seen, and you know, the left is kind of doing it to themselves, building this thing up, but if you can't see how corrupt things are after this, then I mean, what is it going to take?
That's the question, but there's definitely going to be another, I don't even know if it's fair to say an awakening, but it's definitely an awareness.
The awareness level should have peaked seeing the guilty verdict today.
Because again, our politicians are all so damn corrupt, but.
But Trump's the only one.
We can't even get Epstein clients in a courtroom.
But Trump, I mean, just give me a break.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where you from?
unidentified
This is drolling.
Hey, I was just wondering what this means about the debate.
Is this why Biden said that he'd be willing to debate Trump because he knew this was going to happen?
To try to make sense about what Biden is thinking you're doing is a fool's errand because he probably doesn't even know what he's thinking or doing.
I actually think that we kind of overestimate what goes on in the Democrat Party.
I think they're actually, in many cases, now completely out of control.
I mean, they screwed up so bad with their own convention that they're having to do a virtual convention to swear Biden in because that's the only way he can get on the ballot in Ohio.
So they're basically doing a virtual convention and then a fake convention in Chicago, which is just going to turn into a massive protest.
So the whole thing is just whacked out.
But maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe they did have enough ducks in a row to figure, okay, we'll do these debates.
But Trump will be in jail anyway, so it won't matter.
But the first debate is supposed to be June 25th, and Trump doesn't get sentenced until July 11th.
So unless, and I haven't seen what the standards of his release are because he's not in jail, so I don't know what the probation area is for him not to be in jail tonight.
I would be surprised if it's not a travel restriction.
Now, there's things you can work around that and still travel.
But this is all kind of an unknown.
It's going to be surreal.
Trump and Biden on the same stage, though.
And this, after today's events, it only makes it even more surreal, I would say.
So that's my response to that.
Thanks for the call, drones.
All right.
Maybe we should call it there.
Maybe we should call it a night there.
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