Owen Shroyer mocks Mark Levin’s ICC claims as "Hitlerian," arguing Israel’s actions fuel anti-Semitism while dismissing its strategic value, citing Stingray tech used domestically. He debates conservative media’s shifting loyalties—Levin’s fear of another Holocaust, Hannity’s defense-industry ties—and pivots to listener-driven rants like Nebraska’s pothole woes and vaccine conspiracies. The episode blends foreign policy skepticism with domestic grievances, framing U.S. involvement as a distraction from economic collapse and cultural decline, while teasing his InfoWars appearance and gold-backed membership perks. [Automatically generated summary]
Owen Schroyer Live, episode 63, giving value to worthless commentary.
Coming to you as always to you, as always.
Through the Owen.gold microphone.
Owen.gold.
It's the only membership that pays you back in gold.
It's the only one I know of that pays you back in gold.
So become a member of the club right now.
Do it right now.
Don't even hesitate.
Go right now to owen.gold.
The only subscription that pays you back in gold.
All right.
Now, I was going to come on tonight and the headline was going to be: because, you know, I know what the hot topics are, and I'm thinking about even perhaps going into this Twitter spaces to just check in
on it, if it's even worth it, if it's even worth it.
It's got a ton of listeners, but it's the hottest topic.
It's been the hottest topic.
And that's this Israel versus Palestine debate, which has been really going on since October 7th.
And look, I just tell it like it is.
Anybody that follows me knows all I do is tell it like it is.
I'm virtually just play-by-play for everyday politics in America.
just call it as I see it.
And so the truth is, I've called this since day one.
I knew that all of this Middle East Holy War nonsense was going to hit our streets after October 7th.
But it's funny because I was going to come in tonight and my title for the show, which probably would have gotten a lot more views.
Everybody would have shared it.
Everybody would have wanted to call in.
Everybody would want to weigh in on this holy war between Muslims and Jews or Israel and Palestine, whatever you want to call it.
The same strife, the same conflict that's been going on forever in that part of the world that now occupies our streets, our media, our universities, our politics.
And I'm just sick of it.
And I'm just sick of it.
So the headline was going to be anti-Israel right versus pro-Israel right or pro-Israel right versus anti-Israel right.
And I was going to get into the differences and I was going to get into where it's going, where it's been, and why, quite frankly, the anti-Israel right exists and it's not going anywhere and why the pro-Israel right exists and it's not going anywhere.
But I just couldn't do it anymore and I'm just sick of it.
And I said, you know what?
I'm going to go off the beaten path and I'm not really going to talk about that much at all.
Now, I might get into it.
We'll open up the phone lines.
We'll see where the callers want to go.
But like this thing is being pushed on X. Israel is not America's greatest ally.
Prove ally.
Prove me wrong.
A bunch of people are weighing in, listening to that.
Who knows?
Maybe we'll pick up some audio.
But I'll just say this.
I'll just say this.
And again, this is just a neutrally observable fact.
This is just me reporting on what I see.
The pro-Israel right versus the anti-Israel right.
The anti-Israel right is actually consistent in their beliefs and Don't take any assumptions into their beliefs, but can actually apply their ideology to their beliefs.
And that's a fair point, and I see it in the comments.
It's really more anti-war right, but it's not fair to not pretend that there isn't an anti-Israel right.
I mean, let's be perfectly fair.
There is an anti-Israel right.
I would say it's mostly made up of anti-war right, America first-right, but just for the sake of this conversation, we'll call it the anti-Israel right.
And that's not entirely inaccurate.
That's not entirely inaccurate or unfair.
But here's what you'll notice about the anti-Israel right.
They can hold their head above water in a debate on Israel.
Is Israel our ally?
What does Israel do for us?
The pro-Israel right cannot.
With the pro-Israel right, it's all just assumptions.
It's all just supposed to be a given and an acceptance.
But that's all cannon fodder.
This is where it really matters.
And they're all coming out of the woodwork now.
The anti-Israel right is pro-free speech.
The pro-Israel right is not pro-free speech.
Notice how the pro-Israel right has been celebrating the censorship when it comes to anti-Semitism, and the pro-Israel right is celebrating the shutdown of demonstrations on college campuses.
Now, just to be clear, just to be clear, if you are committing a crime, if you are blocking the flow of traffic, if you are blocking a road, blocking an entrance, assaulting people, what have you, then you're committing a crime.
That's not a protest.
That's not First Amendment protected activity.
But if you're a college student and you want to hold up a flag or engage in a protest, you should be allowed to do that.
And even if somebody calls it anti-Semitic, that doesn't mean you don't get your First Amendment right.
But notice who's calling this out.
The pro-Israel right is now anti-free speech.
They want anti-Semitism laws passed.
They want Jews protected from any protests.
They want Israel protests to be shut down.
They want anti-Israel speech to be silenced and censored on the Internet.
So with the anti-Israel right, you can't find that.
The anti-Israel right stands for free speech no matter what.
But see, I could go on with this.
And now you have people like Mark Levin just going full tyrant, just going full Hitler.
And maybe there's something genetic about that.
Maybe there's something they just can't shake about that.
Maybe they're so used to being above it all as the biggest victims on the planet that they just want to remain at the top of the victim economy.
But most people are sick of it now.
And it's gotten to this point where the whole victim economy is based off such fraud that people just can't take it anymore.
It's too bad for the college liberals that might even be on the right side of an issue.
It's too bad that the college liberals that finally might be on the right side of an issue, whether they can figure it out or not, but they can't explain it and they're not smart enough to win in the streets.
And so now they're going to lose.
And they're so used to being able to do all their stuff with Antifa and Black Lives Matter and anti-Trump and the Me Too movement and everything else that now that they're doing their anti-Israel demonstrations and they're getting shut down, they just can't figure it out.
So they're confused.
And now they're going to get a little bit of that double standard that they've applied to the rest of the world.
And they're not smart enough, quite frankly.
They're just not smart enough to know how to beat it at the street level.
But they're not even running the show, are they?
They're not even running the show.
So they've been set up, and now they're going to learn the hard way.
Unfortunately, this isn't going anywhere.
Now, again, the obvious, the obvious response from any American that cares about his country is go fight your own wars.
You've been fighting these wars for centuries.
We're not interested.
America has its own problems.
We have a collapsing president.
We have a collapsing economy.
We have the most corrupt White House in the history of this country.
We have a wide open southern border.
We have the price of living, the cost of living skyrocketing.
We have men now being told they can compete in women's sports.
So, yeah, we got our own problems to deal with.
We got taxes that are going crazy.
They want to raise taxes.
We have a phony climate change agenda that wants to enslave us all.
And so these are the real issues.
But the left gets fooled again.
And even if they might be right on the issue, they don't even know how to be smart enough to win on the streets.
So I could go on and on and on, but I'm just sick of it.
And the debate isn't going anywhere, quite frankly.
It's just not going anywhere.
And the more the pro-Israel right shows its face, the worse it's going to be for them.
And the more the left and the Biden administration continue to fund the war and fund Israel, it's going to be bad for them too.
So that's not going anywhere.
So most of this commentary is worthless surrounding this issue.
It's entirely worthless.
And that's why it's giving value to worthless commentary.
International Criminal Court that President Trump said, don't you ever, ever try and issue any warrants, anything against the United States where I will sanction you, I will break you.
And that's how you keep the International Criminal Court, which is in effect a joke off of our doorsteps.
Because they will have given the seal of approval.
The seal of approval to Hamas, to Iran, to Hezbollah, the Houthis, the Muslim Brotherhood, and all the other mass murder, monstrous terrorists throughout the world.
Let's explain why this doesn't go on when Trump is president.
Because Donald Trump is not part of the Klan.
Donald Trump is not part of the deep state.
Donald Trump is not part of the military-industrial complex.
And he was the real president.
Okay?
So they couldn't pull this stuff off or Trump would know what's going on.
They can't just say, hey, we need all this money for this.
We need all this money for that.
Trump would say, well, wait for what?
Trump would say, well, wait, where's it going?
Trump would say, well, we need oversight.
Trump would say, well, no, I don't want to fund a war.
So they couldn't do it.
With Biden, they can fund whatever the hell they want.
With Bush, with Obama, they were all in the club.
They were all funding the military-industrial complex.
They didn't give a damn.
At the end of the day, Israel, who already controlled Congress with the Zionist lobbying groups, with the Israel lobbying groups like APAC.
And the gig is up now.
So see, you pushed Americans to the edge.
You pushed Americans to the edge.
And then you said every other group is the biggest victim, and now you want Americans to care more about Israel, and you want Americans to care more about Ukraine, and Americans are saying, no, we've had enough.
When do we get to care about us?
And then people like Levin, supposed conservatives, supposed patriots, go on the air and rant and rave in the most impassioned way for Israel.
And if Israel can do no wrong, and the Jews can do no wrong, the Jews don't even like Netanyahu.
Jews are protesting with the anti-Israel crowd and the pro-Palestinian crowd.
You don't speak for all Jews, Mark.
In case you haven't noticed, there are hundreds of thousands of Jews protesting against Netanyahu in Israel.
There are Orthodox Jews protesting against Netanyahu, protesting at the universities against Israel's regime.
So you pushed Americans too far.
We don't want to fund Israel's wars for the rest of our lives.
We don't want the Israel lobby and APEC and the Zionist organizations to control our media, our politicians, our foreign policy.
The gig is up.
The gig is up.
It's over.
I don't want anything to do with Israel.
Israel can deal with its destiny.
Israel can deal with its problems.
Israel can deal with the Palestinians and the Muslims and whoever the hell else they want to deal with.
It's not our problem.
But now it is.
But now it is.
Man, that was so predictable.
It's almost like it's almost not even fair.
It's almost not even fair to say, I don't care about the hostages.
How do I not care about the hostages?
I'm the one pissed off that Israel stood down and allowed it to happen.
I'm the one pissed off that Netanyahu and Biden aren't actually doing anything to save the hostages.
They're ignoring the hostages.
This is all about Israel taking the Gaza Strip.
And I think everyone's in on it.
I think Iran is in on it.
I think the Biden administration is in on it.
I think they're all in on it.
And guess who profits?
The military-industrial complex.
And now Iran gets more money.
And now Israel gets more money.
And now Palestine gets more money.
And the American people have to pay for the whole thing.
Oh, but that's anti-Semitic to say if you don't want to pay for Israel's war, you're an anti-Semite.
If you don't want college students to have free speech, you're an anti-Semite.
We're not falling for that crap anymore.
We've been called racist.
We've been called homophobes.
We've been called Islamophobes.
We've been called xenophobes.
We've been called transphobes.
Do you think it affects us anymore?
Now you're going to call us anti-Semites?
It doesn't work anymore.
The gig is up.
We've been called every freaking name under the sun, and none of it's true.
But I'll tell you, that was the most predictable diatribe ever.
I knew Levin was going to go on handy tonight and scream about the Holocaust for 15 minutes.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
So, yeah.
Look, the truth is, it is sad what Netanyahu is doing.
It is sad what Israel is doing because, yeah, there will be a rise in anti-Semitism.
There will be hatred of Jewish people that don't deserve it and want nothing to do with this.
Yeah.
But that's not because of the International Criminal Court.
And any Jewish person that is being honest knows that that's true.
But the pro-Israel right is in denial because most of their bills are paid for by Israel or Jews, the Zionists in one way, shape, or form or the other.
And it's been so revealing.
It's been so revealing in the last seven months.
It's just undeniable at this point.
Who knows?
Maybe Obama flipped because Epstein got him with a little mossad tape, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, Epstein was such a good spy for Israel in the blackmail that the CIA hired him.
So look, I just want everybody to come together against globalism.
I want everybody to come together against totalitarianism.
I want everybody to realize some things that are common sense, like how we're all being goose-stepped in to this global government.
You just got a taste of it with COVID, but some people just aren't ready for that.
Some people just aren't ready for that.
But hey, if you're getting paid big time by the Israeli lobby, you're going to be ranting like Mark Levin on a Monday night with Sean Hannity, aren't you?
You're going to be calling for all anti-Israel protesters to be rounded up.
That's what he said earlier today.
said rounded up.
So, and you know, I really have no problem talking like this because I am truly independent.
And I love all these people that say, oh, Alex Jones is going to be upset at you talking like this.
No, he's not.
Alex Jones does not censor anything I say.
Alex Jones does not control anything I say.
That's why I knew Alex Jones was the only person that I could work for.
That's why InfoWars is where I wanted to host my show.
Now, maybe Alex has a different opinion, but most of the time he doesn't.
But I love this commentary of, oh, you know, oh, they got to Alex, or, oh, Alex is just trying to keep his audience by switching, or, oh, Owen's going to be fired by Alex for saying all this.
But it's time for the American people to take back control of their country, their media, their politics, and their foreign policy.
Our government is for sale to the highest bidder.
And I got news for you.
Nobody's outbidding these foreign countries.
Nobody's outbidding the pharmaceutical industrial complex, the military industrial complex, the Israeli lobby.
They win every time.
And that's why we are where we at.
And again, I'm not saying Trump was perfect.
But see, Trump wasn't a part of the deep state cabal, so they couldn't run all their programs.
And so basically, Trump cut the funding, Trump just cut all the funding into these war zones so they couldn't fund their proxy wars anymore.
And so they couldn't fund their proxy wars.
They couldn't fund their Mossad wars.
They couldn't fund their CIA wars.
The money went dry.
And then you had the Abraham Accords, and you actually had a chance at peace or a moment of peace.
And then as soon as they got Trump out, there it goes.
There it goes.
So let's do this.
Because I already talked about this more than I expected to.
And here's the other thing, too.
Here's the other thing, too.
I'm not one of these people that want a single thing to be their identity.
And, you know, you've got these smart guys.
I do hours of political commentary every day.
And you've got these smart guys that will take one thing you say or one clip or one tweet and then say, oh, this, that, or the other thing, and just assume 100 things.
And it's so much more complex than that.
But it's like, I don't want this to be my identity.
My identity is not obsessing for or anti-Israel.
My identity is not obsessing over what goes on in the Middle East or any of this other stuff.
If I have an identity, I'm an American flag-waving patriot.
If I have an identity, I am the grandson of military veterans.
I am the grandson of a stronger generation.
If I have an identity, it's saving America.
It's bringing common sense back to American politics.
It's ridding our once great nation of all the corruption and finding common sense again.
Like, hey, we should have a border.
Hey, we paid too many taxes.
Hey, our infrastructure is collapsing.
Hey, a man isn't a woman, but this is just common sense, logic, and reasoning.
But all I do, just like I used to do before I switched to politics, I just do play-by-play, folks.
I just do political play-by-play.
Like a play-by-play announcer sitting in the booth at a hockey game or a football game or a baseball game.
I'm just the political, play-by-play, and color commentary guy sitting here at the booth, observing and reporting politics on a day-to-day basis.
That's what I do.
But you know what?
I'll leave it up to the audience tonight.
Because I brought some other stuff into the show that is not the normal content just because I wanted to lighten it up.
You know, I didn't want to obsess over this, but I just knew it was just so predictable.
I knew Mark Levin was going to go on that rant.
And I'm just so sick of the hacks and talk radio.
I'm just so sick of hacks and frauds and phonies pretending like they're bringing you the truth when they'll sell out to the highest shekel.
I'm sick of people in the media with massive followings that don't deserve it, that haven't earned it, that have been placed there by design, that if they lost their platform, they would immediately die politically in the media.
I'm just sick of it.
And I'm not even a purist.
I don't mind having a different opinion.
I don't mind disagreeing with people.
I don't mind that at all.
But there's so many phonies and blowhards out there that just don't deserve an audience at all.
But that's it exactly.
Like the gaming channel says, they're a joke.
And as soon as the rubber meets the road for them to stand up for the truth or stand up for America or put their priorities in America's politics, they show their true colors.
And many of them are all already did when Alex Jones was censored.
You remember that?
Many of these people in the media, conservatives, celebrated when Alex Jones and InfoWars was censored.
They celebrated it, mostly for selfish reasons, because they know they can't compete with us intellectually, philosophically, or just generally speaking, as a talk show host.
Most of these people without their platform wouldn't survive a day.
Alex had to build everything from the ground up.
And we've now survived the highest levels of censorship and lawfare in the history of this country.
Most of these people, if they lost their platform, they'd disappear off the face of the earth.
And then they'd have to start to get real and start to talk like InfoWars talks just to survive.
So the question is then, should I open up the phone lines or should I cover some of this other stuff?
And I mean, I got some, I got like relationship stuff, some funny stuff, some sports stuff.
And I was just going to get into all of it.
Just because, again, most of this stuff that I see, when people are talking about like left-wing Entertainers, they just get mad instead of appreciating its comedic value.
When most people talk about the dynamics of relationships and what goes on with men and women now, they just completely miss it.
It's mostly worthless commentary for clicks, for views, and they don't add anything.
Same thing goes in the sports media.
So, I was thinking about giving value to all this worthless commentary.
What do you guys think?
I'm going to read the Rumble Rants at rumble.com/slash Owen.
And I'm going to see: do you guys want me to cover some of this other stuff?
Do you guys want me to cover some sports stuff, some culture stuff, some relationship stuff?
Or do you want me to just open up the phone lines and take calls on everything we've talked about?
It's going to be listener's choice or dealer's choice, as they say.
Well, yeah, I am the host.
It is my show, but I also like to hear from the audience.
I think we will.
I think we'll go no relationship stuff.
It's not really relationship stuff per se, it's more like cultural like what's going on, what's the problem.
People are saying, oh, what's wrong with men or women?
Or, oh, it's women's fault, or oh, it's men's fault.
So he's talking about pitchers and injuries and the game changing and what he this is the future Hall of Famer, one of the best pitchers of the modern day.
And it's true.
The corporate douchebags that run the MLB have ruined the game.
unidentified
You know, I think it'd be easy to sit here and blame the pitch clock.
Changing the rules.
You put everything together and everything has a little bit of influence.
You know, I think the biggest thing is that the style of pitching has changed so much.
You know, everybody's throwing as hard as they possibly can and spinning the ball as hard as they possibly can.
You know, it's hard to deny those results, obviously.
How can you, it's a double-edged sword.
How can you tell somebody to go out there and not do that when they're capable of throwing 100?
And, you know, this young guy comes up and throws a pitch 95 and gives up a big homer, and everybody's like, what the hell, man?
So something needs to change.
I don't have all the answers.
I know pitching, you know, and I've been, I don't want to beat a dead horse here.
It is what it is.
I think the data's out there at this point.
But when the balls started to change back in 2016, a bit more frequently.
I know myself personally, that started changing how I had to approach pitching.
You have to start swinging, you have to start approaching the batter as I want swing and miss.
I can't have him put the ball in play where the old adage: pitch down, pitch away from the guy, hit your spot, get a weak, you know, get weak contact early in the count, and then you can kind of go up.
And that kind of went out the window when everybody started being able to leave the yard, especially opposite field.
You know, and look, like I said, I'm not here to, I've said my piece on that before in the past, and it is what it is as long as we're all out here competing on an even playing field.
They changed the rules and they changed the equipment.
And they ruined baseball.
Corporate douchebags ruined baseball.
You're better off bringing back the steroid era.
And it's all about TV money.
It's all about TV money.
It's all about ratings and it's all about attendance.
And they figured, oh, let's juice the baseballs and let's change the rules and let's sell every inch of the fucking stadium and every inch of the fucking screen as an advertisement.
And we'll make the most money ever.
And then you'll have spoiled rotten brats playing the game that do a little dance with their dinghy when they hit a double and they're down by 10 runs.
They ruined the game.
It's really sad.
Baseball might have been my favorite sport growing up.
I loved going to ball games.
My dad would drop me and my friends off.
I could get into the ball game for $5 when I was a kid.
I'd get dropped off at Bush Stadium.
I'd go to the ball game for $5.
We'd go 40, 50 times a year.
As soon as we could drive, got out of school, we'd go down there, watch batting practice.
We'd get in for $5, $10 every night.
Now, no way you're getting in for $5.
No way you're getting in for $10, maybe $20.
But no, they ruined the game with all the advertising and all the hot dogging.
So they ruined the game.
They changed the equipment.
They changed the rules.
And now the game.
And by the way, it didn't help with ratings or attendance.
The Verlander hat was the Frisco Rough Riders, for those asking.
The Frisco Rough Riders.
It's just north of Dallas.
My buddy actually used to do their play-by-play back in the day.
Hey, don't underestimate the power of popularity, by the way.
You know, don't underestimate the power of popularity.
And I know there's an agenda behind all of this stuff, obviously.
But if the PC culture just gets rejected on its face, if ratings continue to collapse, you know, we can organically save this with free market capitalism.
And if the WWE goes anti-PC, maybe there's hope.
Maybe there's hope.
Now, this is a disturbing trend.
Truly.
College athletes, men are getting paid to promote female cosmetic products like nail polish and makeup.
Do you think that guy's going to have any respect in the locker room?
Do you think that guy's going to have any respect in the huddle?
He goes in there with painted nails and makeup on his face.
I don't care about your OPC liberal open mind.
These are football players.
They want to win a football game.
And if you go under center with nail polish and face paint like a doll and a beauty pageant, the poor Bears fans.
Are there any Bears fans in the chat tonight?
I'm sorry.
Just when you thought that maybe there was some hope with Justin Fields, just when you thought maybe there's hope with Justin Fields, they drafted Caleb Williams.
So I think we'll hold off kind of the cultural stuff maybe for another episode.
How about that?
How about we save some of the cultural stuff, some of the other stuff for another episode, and we'll open up the phone lines.
I wonder if this Israel conversation is still going on.
unidentified
And he's America first.
That must mean that they mean that America first means America, the empire first.
Okay.
As long as I understand what baseline you're using and what scope you're using.
But a lot of other people that are mega America first are really talking about the essential USA.
They're not talking about the empire.
In fact, they tend to be much, you know, they tend to be much more isolationist when they look at things like foreign policy.
So I agree with you.
You have to sort of frame the conversation and start with the first premise and ask people what do they mean by America, the nation or the empire?
The next question is America first.
What do you mean by that?
Is it the nation or the empire?
And then carry the conversation from there.
Thank you for that.
I love it.
Agree.
Hold on just a second.
There's one other question to ask yourself as well.
If what you're frustrated about is that there's been a change from, say, 10 or 20 years ago of your standard of living and your perception of existence in America, right, compared to now.
And therefore, that's what births your idea of American first.
If you think that that is going to benefit, become a benefit, improve for you if the American empire contracts and you do not take into account the petrodollar, the US dollar as a reserve currency, its ability to project, force, and control the empire, right?
Then you are not thinking about what America first is because the America you live in now is a reflection of what the empire is and does, right?
And you just retreat from it in any disorderly fashion.
Do you think that that is going to make your life better?
How can it, right?
If you need the empire to get what you have today.
But then there's one other thing.
I'll jump in on their before you get to those other stocks.
How wealth transfer works.
And I'll leave it there.
So Iggy, can you hear me?
Because I don't know if you can hear me.
Yeah.
Okay.
So to the, because I do believe that the America first in its present day, meaning, you know, campaigning when Trump was in 2016, that was an engagement behind them.
That's not a politician's word that came from it.
And we adopted that because everybody was sick and tired.
Where I do, and I've been liking a lot of stuff you say, but where I do completely disagree is saying that we got to look at America as an empire because if we retract from everything, well, then it's going to hurt us in the wrong.
I disagree with that.
And the reason is, is because you're also operating under the mindset of how we have all these foreign relationships that because we have these foreign relationships and how it affects the U.S. dollar and there's this collaboration between our country and these other countries, that that's what sustains the, you know, maybe even capitalism that we have in this country.
However, if you look at the things that Trump did when he was bringing the industries back to America, then yes, America first can be self-sufficient because we have enough of the resources that we need in this country where we don't have to be dependent on other countries to where that dictates how our economy is, that dictates how our country's morale is.
When he started to bring it home, now, if you just drop everything all of a sudden, I agree, there's going to be chaos.
But if you do it the way Trump was starting to do it, which is bring everything back to the home front, then yeah, we can, for the vast majority, limit where we are in our foreign affairs and still be America first and happy.
Because, and here's the question I have for everybody.
And I know it says, you know, Israel is not America's greatest ally.
Do we really have any ally?
That's my question.
And I know everybody presents Israel as it, but look at what's going on in our country at our southern border.
Look at what's going on with our veterans.
Look at what's going on with the homeless crisis.
Look at how much you guys are paying when you go to get groceries right now and fill up gaps.
Where are all our allies?
Because I don't see anybody helping us.
So when I hear the word ally, what I really hear is, who are we sending money to that helps us when we want to go do some foreign things?
But then those foreign things that we do don't benefit America to begin with.
And I think it might have been a maze or someone else that said it.
Most of these foreign involvements that we get in actually benefit Israel more than it benefits America.
I don't care about strategic positioning in the Middle East when I don't got beef with the Middle East.
Bring my troops, bring my ships, bring my Air Force, bring it all back here.
It's got to be the technology that we have to do military needs to be isolated to America and America only.
There is no other country out there that has business having our tanks or our jets.
When people say, well, you need to have Israel as an ally because of the spy software and the intel.
Why?
It's only been weaponized against Americans because more likely you're talking about Stingray and Pegasus.
And so far, Stingray hasn't benefited America from preventing anything from foreign coming into our country.
But what it has been utilized against is J6ers.
It's been utilized against parents that are going to school board meetings.
So this facade of the technology aspect of Israel is helping us is bullshit.
It's been used to weaponize against America.
Let me back in.
Just go ahead and just back up the truck a bit, Alpha.
Three countries that we have a trade surplus with.
The top three countries we have a trade surplus with.
I just would dare anybody to actually name them.
Where we actually are in an advantageous trade situation.
And how do you replace that if you just internalize your own weapons?
Okay, Iggy.
Who runs the UN?
But hold on, hold on, guys.
So this conversation has finally begun to take shape.
I appreciate the foundational definitions, the terminology, so that we can all get on the same page and have the same, you know, I guess, understanding.
You know, I do think that, you know, let him finish and then you can, I guess, ask clarifying questions.
But for the most part, as long as we understand that, like, there's the empire aspect, which is kind of like, you know, are we trying to feed the beast?
Meaning it's not even going to really come back down to the American people, our quality of life.
I think I should just open up the phone lines, guys.
I'm not going to make you listen to that all night.
We'll just open up the phone lines.
All right.
We tried to get in.
No respect.
No respect for a top G like me, huh?
Can't even get a word in.
All right, we are getting rave reviews, by the way, at owenschroyer.store.
We're getting rave reviews.
I'm wearing the Clown World shirt tonight.
Very popular at owenschroyer.store.
I don't think we have any new merch tonight.
The disobey t-shirts, people love them.
We got in women's too.
So the women get a little merchandise.
The clown world shirts, beautiful.
People love them.
People love them.
I'm wearing my Clown World shirt tonight.
Owen 316.
This is popular, backed by Popular Demand, by the way, backed by Popular Demand, Owen 316.
We got our Christ is King athletic shirt, great to wear to the gym.
I like to wear it to the gym.
And we've got the gym shorts, Christ is King gym shorts as well.
So I like to wear those to the gym.
Always get compliments on that.
We got it in the hoodie.
We got it in the women's.
And we got some fun ones.
We got the Biden brain freeze, the Biden brain freeze.
You know, this, you know, the thing with the Biden brain freeze.
People always get a good laugh out of that.
Don't forget about Schroyer Farms, raw power.
They don't want you to have the power of raw dairy, raw milk, but it is powerful.
And some other odds and ends there for you.
We might be revamping the store soon.
We'll probably wait until maybe, maybe I love the reviews, by the way, guys.
I love the reviews you're offering in the comment section.
I really do want to put out quality products, quality shirts, quality shorts that you like to wear.
Not just like crazy political shirts that you never want to wear in public, but shirts that you like to wear in public and shirts that you're not necessarily making a loud, obnoxious political statement, but maybe a little more of a nuanced one.
Or just the fun stuff like Disobey, Clown World, Owen316, or maybe you just want to celebrate Christ as King on the streets.
So there you go.
I appreciate all the reviews.
Drink some raw milk today.
I already had my raw milk today.
But there you go.
Owensroyer.store.
Okay, let's get the phone lines ready to go here.
Let's make sure we get the right number on the screen.
And we'll take calls the rest of the way.
We'll take calls the rest of the way this evening here on Owen Schroyer Live, episode 63, giving value to worthless commentary.
And what I was thinking about, I was thinking about doing this bit if it wasn't like literally a risk to my life.
I wanted to go out and start actually measuring potholes, like take a tape measure and like measure how deep it is and wide it is and like do a measurement.
I mean, we have ludicrous potholes.
I know it's not just in Austin, Texas that are everywhere.
But I mean, we've got potholes, I swear, eight inches deep, two foot wide.
I just thought it was kind of an interesting idea of like a what's the deal segment where you only give the caller like 10 seconds to say exactly what happened that day and how their government failed them that day.
Really liking the disobey ones, they're pretty cool.
Um, just throwing it out, uh, probably my favorite of all the ones you've done, um, you know, that's not really political or anything, has been the Rise ones, uh, with the uh, with the with like the Phoenix bird on it.
But uh, hey, since you were touching on the uh, the wrestling there, that was a huge uh, you know, I was huge back in the day for me.
And, you know, I have seen some of the uh later, more edgy stuff that they're doing there on the on the WWE, but I think you might be a little bit more optimistic than I am as far as uh them really going back full like late 90s, early 2000s, um, attitude era, because, uh, I don't know something about, I, I, I just, I would be really shocked.
Well, they, what they did was they made the switch to basic cable or whatever.
So like they're on Fox now, I think Friday night SmackDown is on Fox, the network.
And so I think they went real PC to get that TV contract.
And if they were going to do more attitude era, ruthless aggression era, they'd have to do that stuff on like social media or maybe on the WWE app or the, I don't know if they still do the WWE network or what they do with that.
But see, the thing is they have to realize that, I don't know, people either become loyal to the money or loyal to the brand.
And I think that that's kind of what a lot of people are realizing is that, well, we'd rather have somebody that's loyal to the brand than loyal to the money.
You know, I, I pretty much lost interest, all interest in it.
Um, I think I was still in high school when they went, uh, full PG, but, um, I mean, my fondest memories of it was that when I was a little kid in grade school and that, I mean, Stone Cold was always my favorite, but honestly, I would have to say the best storyline, uh, that the WWF did back then.
It didn't even involve Stone Cold.
It was like the 1997 era, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart feud that ultimately ended with the, with the Montreal screw job because, you know, of course I didn't realize as a kid, but there was so much real life hatred between those two.
And it just really played out well, I think on the screen.
And, and then of course the mystery with the Montreal screw job, whether or not it was legitimate or a staged event, you know what I mean?
I guess I like to hold on to hope that it really was, you know, uh, kayfabe, you know what I mean?
And, and that's something that like, I really, they have like, you know, they almost have like a whole women's division now where they actually wrestle.
I'm trying to maybe point out something that I think is important going forward with people like Mark, who at one time, you know, Mark was one of our lions.
You know, he really defended conservatism.
He's a constitutional lawyer.
And, you know, I really thought a lot of him.
And I'm not saying that you're wrong about, you know, the way he's carrying on about Israel.
I'm trying to understand where it's coming from and also what we can do to get people to understand our point of view.
Because I'll tell you, I was a Zionist.
I believed in defending Israel at all costs.
And I can remember, I remember the first Gulf War.
I had a friend who had family in Israel.
And, you know, I remember learning in my Christian teachings, like, oh, you know, you have to defend Israel.
You know, it's in the Bible.
But I never, it wasn't until, it wasn't until I found out about it really from David Icke, who I discovered on InfoWars, where he explained that the state of Israel and the Israel that you read about in the Bible are two different things and explain the fact that there's a manipulation going on where we think that we're defending
these poor people that are being downtrodden.
And, oh, you know, we can never let this happen again and all the horrors that occurred with the Holocaust on and on and on.
And if you think about it, it's really ingenious because if this is a manipulation by people in the background, and if this whole situation, what happened on October 7th and everything that ensued from there was all carefully planned and orchestrated, which once you start thinking about these things, then you see it.
But when October 7th happened, there were a lot of people that we saw influencers, Laura Loomer for one, a friend of yours, Jack Poselbic, people were going bananas over what happened.
So let me, this is actually, this is actually a great call.
And there's a lot of perspectives you bring to the table that I think are important to analyze here.
So let me let me try to respond to everything that you just covered.
Well, first of all, the reason why I value what you're saying is because you've probably been a listener for, you've probably been a listener to conservative talk radio for a long time.
I mean, I don't know how old you are, but I'm guessing you're probably older than me.
So you've probably been listening to talk radio before I even came along, before I even had a show, I'm guessing.
So what I find interesting is we've had a very controlled media for a long time.
And forget about whatever negativity I might have expressed towards Mark Levin.
We've had a controlled media for a long time.
And the idea here is to keep their audience with only a limited political spectrum view, right?
And so InfoWars obviously expands that view.
I could even say that I could potentially expand that view.
Well, I'm not supposed to exist.
I'm not supposed to be here.
InfoWars is supposed to be banned.
I'm supposed to be banned.
If it's not for Rumble and X with their free speech platforms, you don't get my viewpoint and you only hear Mark Levin's.
And so maybe your mind is never open.
But see, now, here's the issue again.
Forget about me insulting Mark Levin.
I think the important debate is whether it's Mark Levin or anybody else, were they ever truly American conservatives or were they always somebody that had a foreign interest in mind?
Were they always somebody that had their highest donor or whoever owns their show in mind?
Or were they truly America first?
So maybe where Mark is coming from is like some genetic thing or because he's a Jew and he's really afraid he's going to get wiped off the earth again by these Nazis that don't exist.
I mean, they're claiming that college protesters, college liberals are Hamas.
I mean, that's just so low IQ.
It's ridiculous.
So I mean, for somebody like you, though, who's been listening to Levin for a long time, it sounds like you value his commentary less now.
But I remember the days when, you know, whatever I, whenever I would hear of Alex, you know, you would think, oh, Alex, he's the cuckoo bird, you know.
But fortunately, one day he went on Timcast, which was a show that I'd already started to watch.
And I got to hear him firsthand.
And that intrigued me enough to give him a chance.
And unfortunately, a lot of, like you said, a lot of people do not get that chance.
But again, I wish that there were a way to reconcile rather than, you know, and believe me, I'm not naive if you like, like, let's say, for example, if you had the opportunity to reach out to him, he'd probably slap you down.
And that is, you know, a sad attitude that too many people have and people are just not open-minded.
And this isn't meaning to be, let's say, rude to Mark Levin, but he's not going to be around forever.
He's already losing his audience and he's already losing respect as far as the conservative talk radio consumer is concerned.
And so he's not going to be around forever.
And quite frankly, commentary like mine is going to become the new mainstream commentary.
And commentary like Levin's is going to be the old legacy dying conservative commentary.
It's just, it's not going to exist much more.
It can't exist.
Younger conservatives are evolving.
And at the end of the day, they have to realize that it's kind of like what that little chat in the Twitter spaces we got into.
This whole idea that Israel is our ally, we have to support, it can't be backed up.
There is no logical reasoning or debate to back that up.
It just, it can't be done.
It has never been done.
It will never be done.
I'm not going to go off onto a ledge to talk about that, but it just can't be done.
If you're not promoting America first, and if you're not promoting America's values and our issues here first and above all with the most passion, then you're just not going to exist as a conservative in the media much longer.
You're just, it's not going to happen.
And, you know, as far as coming together to the table with commentary like Levin's, I mean, look at Shapiro.
I mean, I don't know, there's not many people that support Shapiro.
But did something happen or are we just finally seeing the true colors?
Are we just finally seeing the compare and contrast versus what real conservative America first commentary looks like?
So I think that this will work itself out in time more than anything.
But I want to be clear.
But I want to be clear about, hold on, let me be clear about one more thing, and then I get where you're going.
Let me clear you out one more thing.
I never, I consume all political commentary.
I've listened to Levin.
Shapiro is one I could never really stand.
I'll be honest.
Shapiro, I could never really stand.
I never understood the attraction.
But I've got Levin's books.
I've read some of his books.
I've listened to his show.
I've never had a negative feeling towards Levin.
I always felt that his commentary was very short-sighted.
So this isn't like I've always had it in for Levin, but lately it's just like, wow, dude, you've really completely lost the plot.
And you're showing your audience where your true loyalty is.
And that's fine.
If your true loyalty is to Israel and Jews first, that's fine.
I have no problem with that.
But don't be this, don't pretend like you're some flag-waving conservative patriot when when the rubber meets the road, you're going to be waving an Israeli flag.
And anybody who might have a different opinion is a Nazi.
So that's where I draw the line.
I'm going to let you say one more thing, and I'm going to take another caller.
I actually got a shirt from your store that was a mistake.
My Rye shirt, the Phoenix, was missing his head.
And I got in touch with your people, and they responded within three hours.
And within a day or two, they said another shirt was on its way.
And within a week, it was resolved without a problem.
And I think it's important to point that out because what's great about a store is not always when things are right, but when they make things right when it comes out wrong.
His radio show is a lot more organic and natural feeling than his talk show.
I will give him that.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm maybe.
He comes off like he's all like against Biden and stuff, but there's always like this little subtle thing going on there in the background, like trying to like warmongering.
I'd have to kind of see that to know exactly what you're talking about.
I mean, but all those names, I mean, Dana Lash, too, they were all in the National Review anti-Trump story in early 2016, telling Republican voters to never vote Trump.
Now, of course, all of a sudden they love Trump, but that's because they saw where the wind went.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
And they're like parrots, dude.
They all just talk like the same.
If you listen to their, you know, I work at an asphalt plant and I'm listening to the radio.
I'm the voter all day, dude.
And they all sound exactly the same as Potato.
Two quick things before I jump off here, Owen.
One, how would I get something autographed for you from you?
Just send me the name and the mailing address, and I will sign this shirt.
I'm going to do it right now so you can see it on air.
And I will mail that and I will get that to you.
How about that?
unidentified
Dude, that's awesome.
Owen Schroyer Live at proton.me.
Okay.
One final request, my friend.
And you can go either way with this, but I was wondering if you could do either Donnie, you're out of your element or a real quick Ben Shapiro impression.
It's Thursday or Friday, and it might have been on, I don't know, Don Gino show or something, but two of the funny clips he had on was one of them who said if there were too many troops on Guam, it would flip over.
Then he's the administrator of NASA talking about the dark side of the moon, why we're not going over there, implying that this guy thinks the back of the moon is dark.
And if that's the case, we're totally screwed technically.