The episode discusses various topics, including the Epstein case, Tucker Carlson's departure from Fox News, and the upcoming presidential election. The host, Owen Shroyer, expresses his frustration with the lack of progress in the Epstein case and criticizes the mainstream media for not covering it enough. He also discusses the potential impact of the Epstein story on the 2024 presidential election, suggesting that it could be a major factor. Additionally, the episode touches on the topic of transgender issues, with Shroyer expressing his support for RFK Jr.'s stance against transgender surgery for minors. The episode also features a guest, Tony Arterburn, who discusses the concept of Wolfpack.gold, a precious metal investment program he founded. Throughout the episode, Shroyer takes calls from listeners and discusses various topics, including politics, conspiracy theories, and even love connections. [Automatically generated summary]
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Okay, so I can't get over this performance that I saw Saturday of Gojira, who I was supposed to see last time they came through Austin.
and then something happened and I couldn't make it.
I don't remember.
I think Mario DePlant is probably the second best drummer in the world, I would say, behind Danny Carey right now.
And so getting to witness that guy live was mind-blowing.
And specifically, that song, The Sell, was one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
And I think that performance for me puts Gojira as the number three best live show I've ever seen.
But we might talk about that later.
I want to talk about what's going on tonight on Fox News.
Oh, and there may or may not be video, if you care to see it, of me actually rocking out.
Somebody else was filming video of the Gojira show in Austin, and somebody may or may not have gotten footage of me rocking out during Gojira performing the sell.
So we may do a little where's Waldo there.
But I noticed something.
I noticed something on Fox News tonight.
Lawrence Jones hosting.
I like Lawrence Jones.
And they have Buck Sexton, Buck Sexton, former CIA agent, on to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and the new Epstein calendar that shows him with CIA and bank people, The Rothschilds, Burns, all these deep state central bankers.
And I'm thinking, okay, well, with that, there's two things going on.
Either A, Fox is trying to cope with the fact people have lost trust in it as an institution for news.
And so they're trying to cope by bringing up this story that they know can get a lot of attention, that they know is a righteous one.
And it's like, oh, yeah, let's head fake and care about this all of a sudden.
Or is there maybe a little bit of a pushback, maybe a little bit of an internal struggle within Fox News to try to keep the guess it's 8 o'clock Eastern hour, 7 o'clock central hour, the most anti-establishment hour out there.
I don't know.
I do know that Tucker Carlson's crew and his producers, aside from the ones that were obviously stabbing him in the back, but they were irrelevant.
They weren't really doing anything anyway.
His real crew, his real producers are all solid people.
And I know that some of them are going to leave or already have left and are going to work with him, but I don't know if they're all, some of them might still be there.
So, but to me, that was like, okay, you got that nobody wants to watch Kill Mead in prime time.
And you knew you had to do something to try to make that hour worthy again.
So you bring up the Epstein thing with the former CIA agent, Buck Sexton.
So interesting.
Now, here's another thing that's interesting about this.
Now, I'm not trying to sell you some hopium.
I'm not selling hopium here.
And I'm certainly not into the Q stuff.
But what, what we're so numb to this whole Epstein thing and the ridiculousness of it because the case should already be open and shut, but the world doesn't work how we want it to.
And I'm thinking, I'm like, okay, well, what is these leaks?
How many more leaks are we going to see from the Epstein client list?
And then it got me thinking about how crazy October 2024 is going to be.
I think if Trump gets past the nomination stage, because maybe they're going to try to do another deep state coup, Republican neocon coup against Trump in 2024.
Now, he should still do the debates.
That's only going to help him.
But maybe there is.
Maybe that's the deal.
Because if Trump makes it to October 2024 as the Republican candidate, you know, you know that himself or people in his support bubble are going to have the most damning October surprises
that we've probably ever seen.
And they're not going to be able to hide them thanks to Twitter, but maybe they'll be able to hide them on cable news because they got Tucker Carlson out.
But I don't know.
I don't know.
But nobody, nobody is going to be trusting CNN and MSNBC.
Not enough for them to have the impact on an election that they need.
And when they lost control of Twitter, that was huge, folks.
So since we're kind of already ahead of schedule in the spirit of 2024, my mind was just racing to that point in time because it's going to be crazy from now till then.
And then that is going to be monumental and paramount as to where the awakening goes from here.
Because the truth is, in a way, political victories are, I shouldn't say political victories are irrelevant.
Political victories are extremely important, but the most important political victories we're never going to have again.
We're going to get cheated and rigged so much that I mean, folks, come on.
2020 with the vote Viagra for Biden.
So it's the awakening that's really the true measurement now.
And I'm telling you, the groundwork has already been done to such an extent now that it's just going to be crazy, October 2024.
And no matter what happens, they're not going to be able to stop this awakening.
I mean, total slavery is the only option they have.
And that's why they're going to try a war.
That's why they're going to try a pandemic.
That's why they're going to try to microchip you.
That's why they're going for all the global warming scam.
It's all this different pincer attack to get you totally under control because they know that this volcano of human consciousness that's been dormant is about to just explode.
And they can't suppress the technology any longer.
They can suppress the currency.
They can suppress the energy, but they can't suppress the technology.
It's crossing a threshold.
And if it is Kennedy Trump 2024, then we're actually doing better than I could have ever imagined.
Now, I don't expect that.
I expect Biden Trump.
That's what my money is on right now: Biden Trump.
And I've said I still believe Biden wins.
Not because of a legitimate election.
I've explained why.
The Republicans can't win in the five states the Democrats stole last election.
They can't, if they don't get in control of what happens in Philadelphia and Atlanta and Milwaukee and Detroit and Philadelphia, it doesn't matter.
Does not matter.
And there's nothing that they've done.
And now Kevin McCarthy is flip-flopping on the Ukraine situation and he wants to support Ukraine now.
Thanks, Kevin.
That a boy.
Man, why Trump got behind him is just and see, that's the exact type of person you need not just going to bat for you when he can score political points, but going to bat for you when he can actually do something.
Kevin McCarthy, as the House Speaker, could be getting so much dirt right now from the GOP, the oversight committee, all these other things.
They could be getting so much dirt right now for 2024.
It is ridiculous.
And do you think Kevin McCarthy is doing that?
Do you think Kevin McCarthy is spearheading that movement?
There might be some forward thinking like that, but it's not Kevin McCarthy.
It's time for Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gates, and the Freedom Caucus to stand up and say, you know what?
Kevin McCarthy has done nothing.
And so we're going to have to raise a little fuss here or just straight up remove you.
So I don't see that going.
I don't see there being any other path, but we'll see.
I don't think it's going to happen, unfortunately.
But it won't even matter.
The October 2024 is going to be so ludicrous.
I mean, you understand, there are dozens of FBI whistleblowers right now.
Dozens.
Like three or four of them go public.
The rest are just talking to people they can trust, which is very few people.
And so now you're looking at if Jim Jordan is a good guy and Matt Gates and some of these others, if they're good, then they're going to be eventually getting to Trump with these people.
I know a lot of them go to Dan Bongino.
Now, I don't know that he and Trump talk.
But, you know, they trust Bongino, former secret service agent.
So if they don't get proper tread in these and their whistleblowing, then they're going to eventually go to Trump in 2024.
And I mean, all the dirt on the Bidens.
I mean, this is crazy.
This is crazy.
So, yeah, well, Marjorie Taylor Greene needs to accept that McCarthy has been a bust.
So I know that he was backed, that she backed him, but she needs to just come around and he's a bust, especially after the Ukraine comments today.
Ridiculous.
I was wondering why haven't I heard from Kevin McCarthy lately?
And then here he comes to talk about more aid for Ukraine.
More aid for Ukraine.
Kevin Morade for Ukraine McCarthy is who he is now.
Well, I hope he doesn't lie and tell us how great it is.
He's obviously afraid of that moment.
I think he'll probably lie.
I think he'll probably lie.
He'll probably say the vaccine was great.
Now, he may kind of back off of the actual vaccine and make it about trying to get the economy and the country back open is where he may try to have it fall to.
But yeah.
unidentified
I just honestly, I don't see anything other than him retracting, coming out and saying, I was fooled.
I don't see anything besides that energizing his base.
Man, I just, I just thought of something the other day.
And, you know, this is just total like tin full hat speculation, but wouldn't it be the most amazing thing if we found out that Trump had set up a sting operation using the nine seasons of celebrity apprentice to find out who all these people were using to boost their 501c3s, who their donors were, you know, how they were going to evade taxes.
Yeah, so what, so what happens is, is they, because I mean, they like had Rod Rob Logoevich on, you know, as one of the years.
And then, of course, Schwarzenegger did it the year after Trump announced he was running for president.
But what they would do is they would have all these different celebrities come on and they would have their own 501c3, you know, charities.
And what they would do is they would essentially call and they would raise money for all of them, for all their own 501c3s.
And whoever raised the most for their charity, the network would also make a big donation, which I believe was CBS, if my memory serves me correct, which was, I think, later.
Yeah, it was CBS, I want to say.
But they would also make a big donation to the charity that raised the most money.
You know, he, he, every time Trump talks about the vaccine, in one way, I get mad at him, but then in another way, too, it's like, I feel like he has to bring it up and put it out there because he wants it to stay fresh in people's memories.
So what I was going to say is about Trump is, you know, there's certain things that he brings up that are, you know, distasteful to his main core, you know, like touting, you know, authorization work speed and things like that.
But I believe a lot of the times he brings those things up just because he wants it to stay fresh in people's minds.
I think he doesn't want the people to forget about it.
So he'll cheerlead certain things, even though it's not necessarily politically advantageous.
So as far as the comments of the trans things go, I mean, it's you only get, like I said, man, the way I look at it, it is, is, is, it's, you know, it's the letter of the law that they want to, you know, change, you know, essentially the commandments that are laid out in our constitution, you know, by using it's, you know, it's the way they want to add to and subtract from and water down the meaning of what our laws actually are.
And they don't, they're not beholden to, you know, the self-evident, inalienable rights, you know, that are given from our creator endowed.
You know, they're, they're beholden to, you know, the LGBTQ plus, you know, woke global climate change critical race theory agenda.
And what's interesting is if you want to get into, you want to read about like the Lunar Society of Birmingham, which is where the word lunatics, they referred to themselves as lunatics, but these were, you know, these were like, you know, Benjamin Franklin, you know, and, you know, Galton, you know, and these characters, if you read about the Lunar Society of Birmingham and you read about the members of those, then you would see where a lot of the ideas of like critical race theory or, you know, global.
Yeah, the roots of all these leftist movements always come from some sort of communist or Marxist radical background almost every time, almost every time.
You know, well, look, and the people in the people in the comments are saying, don't watch Fox News.
Don't watch Fox News.
Look, people can make their own decisions.
I'm going to watch Fox News.
I'm a media critic.
I have to watch it so I can talk about it.
And quite frankly, you don't have to.
Now, I do support the idea of boycotting Fox News to make them at least feel some pressure and some pinch from what they did to Tucker.
But I mean, it is what it is.
It's the only mainstream conservative news channel, if you want to call it that.
And it still does the best presentation, probably.
unidentified
Yes.
And I have to say one more thing.
I have had an issue with knowing things.
Like because I've watched you guys now for so many years, that when it comes into the news and like somebody in my family or my friend will say something, they'll be like, Did you hear about this?
Sometimes I have to act surprised because I've already known it.
And it's the funniest thing because I'm like, yeah, I've known about that.
And they're like, how did you know about that?
I'm like, Infowars.
Anyways, I just want to say thank you.
You guys are all awesome over there.
And I love this.
I love Monday nights and it's really nice.
So thank you very much for everything you guys do.
Oh, and it's funny too, because it's the same media.
I love this now.
You have them leaking back behind the scenes Tucker Carlson footage that's like, okay.
If anything, it makes you like him more.
What are they going to release next?
And it's like, oh, we've got Tucker Carlson talking about website issues at Fox Nation, like, okay, a new platform, like it's, it's normal stuff.
And they act like this is some sort of a revelation.
But, oh, when Amy Roebach is on a hot mic on a hot camera talking about how they had to spike the Epstein story to protect Hillary Clinton, we don't, oh, no, no, no, we don't.
That's not a big deal.
Tucker Carlson talking about a malfunctioning website, though.
They do go through Europe this summer, but they still got a lot of shows left in America.
If you make it, though, you know, this is something that's actually kind of cool about it.
And this is my understanding: is, I mean, to me, it was pretty clear that I think Gojira was the biggest draw, but Mastodon is the headliner band, and it was Lorna Shore, who's probably the hottest thing in metal right now, as far as an up-and-coming band, Lorna Shore.
And they've got videos that just go massively viral with their music now.
And so they're kind of the hot up and coming thing.
And then you have Gojira, which is kind of this underappreciated, like undersold band.
And then there's Mastodon that's just been doing it forever.
And it's kind of like they're all just building it up, building up the metal industry and just making sure it's lasting and just building deep roots and just supporting these other bands.
And that was really cool.
But if you do go see them, get there immediately when the doors open because you want to see Lorna Shore and you don't want to miss anything.
Well, I hate to change the subject, but, you know, it's kind of hard to put this, but, I mean, I think you say, what are we going to do to fight, you know, the evil?
Alex calls it evil, and I think you do too, the evil force.
And he thinks it's some sort of possession.
You know, I'm talking about the people that run the New World Order or the Illuminati or whoever these people are are into, you know – The death cult?
Well, I'm not an expert either, and I'm not trying to put anyone on the line or push any beliefs, but I just think there's a showdown of the good and the evil forces before the evil forces destroy the creation.
That's how I understand it, and that good will win at the showdown.
Well, it's like the ultimate human dichotomy, and if you really – if you look at all of God's creations, there seems to be dichotomy.
It's a consistent pattern.
It's a trend, this dichotomy, and it's represented in good versus evil.
It's represented in man versus woman or just man and woman.
It's represented in day and night, land and sea.
And so it seems to just be everywhere, and there's no doubt that's why good versus evil has been – it's been in literature, text, lore, mythology for recorded history.
I mean, I have friends that were either apolitical or even liberal that used to think I was nuts or just, you know, just – they were just indifferent.
And now they're sending me stuff that they see.
They're like, oh, my gosh, you were right.
And, hey, can you believe they're doing this?
So, I mean, it's impossible.
I mean, men or women?
Look, most people are still not paying attention.
They don't realize the left is claiming men or women.
They don't realize men are competing against women in sports.
They have no idea about trans kid surgery.
The average person still is not informed on these things.
And so once it gets into their lives, are you really going to convince the majority of people that a man is a woman and that we're supposed to just accept that?
And now – see, here's why I think Vivek is actually smart.
Because we might not want to talk about the trans issue.
And the truth is, neither do they.
They don't want to talk about it either.
They want it to be this underneath the table kind of, you know, sleight of hand thing that they're doing at the library, at the school, in the classroom.
They don't want this to be on the debate stage.
So I get, we don't want to talk about it, but if Vivek, if the Democrats are forced to talk about this issue on the debate stage, it's a losing issue.
They're done.
They don't want to.
So Vivek is smart.
Put this into the conversation and then make Democrats defend it.
Yeah, yeah, but you know, they're not even going to debate or have any of those, you know, in the primaries and they're going to do like they did last time, keep Biden hidden.
But now, someone was talking about Trump.
You were talking about Trump that if he wins, do you really think there's going to be a change if he actually?
I mean, I think you think they're going to rig the vote and he's not going to win.
That's pretty obvious.
I mean, they're going to do that if they can get away with it.
And you said the Republicans.
Hey, I listen to you a lot, man.
You say the Republicans aren't doing a darn thing about it.
Let's separate, let's separate establishment politics from standard of living.
Will there be a change in your standard of living?
Absolutely 100%.
It would improve just like it did.
I'm guessing, I know it did for me 2017, 2018, 2019.
And then after 2020, it's all gone downhill.
So standard of living, absolutely.
Cheaper energy and less regulation, so more innovation.
Now, as far as deep state establishment politics, will anything change there?
Probably not.
Probably not.
But if I had the two options on the table of no change in deep state politics and no change in standard of living versus no change in deep state politics, but a good change in standard of living, I'm going to take the latter.
No, I mean, they'll have it in their house and they might not realize it's fake, but they don't really listen.
See, you're an active listener.
You're like somebody that shows up to class and actually wants to learn and take notes and know what's going on.
You don't just show up and take a nap or like, you know, get distracted with a game on your phone.
So that's the difference between an audience member like you that tunes into InfoWars or somewhere else versus somebody that just sits at dinner, flips on ABC News, and then it's just background noise.
You know what I'm talking about?
Hey, thanks for the call.
I'm going to take one more call here before we got the call-in guest.
I'm not too knowledgeable on the country music scene.
So I may know some of his music, but it doesn't ring a bell.
unidentified
Well, me neither.
But I heard him on, there's this outfit called the X22 report.
I know you've heard of that one.
Well, I'm not big on the QAnon stuff, but this dude really struck a chord, man.
He's retired military, and the research that he's done into all this stuff is unbelievable.
You know, I'm not big on crossword puzzles and shit, but dude, like this one brought me into not necessarily the QAnon, but the whole military aspect of what's going on as far as this being an operation.
It's wild, man.
He's got this website.
I know y'all probably hate having like, you know, recommendations for the shows and stuff, but, bro, love y'all.
Love InfoWars.
He's got a site called the Documents.info.
Check out some of his stuff that he does.
But man, the knowledge that that dude spouts.
And as far as Tucker, bro, this dude is about to wake up more gray hairs than all truthers combined like the past 20 years.
So even in a situation like that, you can come out with just a bit of a busted nose when surely you shouldn't even be here calling into this show right now.
So if that can happen, who knows?
Maybe we can pull out an election victory.
Maybe Trump can drain the swamp.
unidentified
I don't know about election victory.
There might be some other influence.
What's going on?
You know, in the next two years, there's no telling what the hell's going to happen.
Again, this is one of those ideas that people thought, wow, what a genius.
And it's not like that at all.
I decided I was going to make a membership program for people that if they wanted to pick up some of the product that I buy from the shop, you know, in-house, and I'm able to source that.
You get a better deal.
I thought, well, I already had some people that were on automatic.
Why don't I make that a program?
And that became wolfpack.gold.
And now we have the wolfpack.gold gold microphone there on your magnificent program.
It has blown.
We have hundreds and hundreds of members now.
We're trending towards 1,000 active members.
That's people all across the country.
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I'm humbled because we have people that join, have a very low cancellation rate.
I mean, it's almost non-existent.
So, I mean, a lot of your listeners are part of the Wolf Pack.
And it's just a way that you can set it and forget it.
You know, you put it on your debit card, credit card.
You can put it on PayPal.
Right now, we're working on a bank account also.
And by the way, we do direct sales.
I mean, we can, there's no minimum here at Wise Wolf.
And I made a promise that Wolfpack members always get first crack at that.
So something walks into the shop.
And I think since last time we spoke, when I officially opened my North Texas branch for Wise Wolf Gold and Silver, it's Wise Wolf Gold and Silver, Denison, Texas, right there on the open side.
We have product available that's there right on the spot.
And then we also have the ability for pickup, drop-off.
I made a second secure location because I don't know if your listeners know.
I used to be in San Antonio, and that's, I used to go up and see you at the InfoWars studio, and that was only about an hour or so drive.
And I moved in 2019, moved to Branson, Missouri.
And we have a great shop here right on the entrance of Branson and the Ozarks.
And that's been great.
But right now, Owen, what's going to define precious metals dealers in this coming era of de-dollarization is the ability to source product.
So I did that second location on purpose to get to get more product flowing in from the public itself because something your listeners may not know, wholesalers are drying up.
There's not a lot of great product out there.
I mean, I can still get, I mean, I obviously can fill orders, but it's not like it used to be.
And, of course, Russia, once the sanctions were put on by Biden, you know, they called it Putin's price hike.
But really, those sanctions that Biden placed on Russia were really a sanction on the American people and against us having energy.
You know, he canceled the XL pipeline right off the bat, the Keystone Pipeline.
And following that, the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, which this government wanted, I believe, if you look at the history.
And they put those sanctions on, and that has really accelerated what's known as de-dollarization.
And this is something that the mainstream media is not really covering.
I don't know if they don't know, if they're just, this isn't a script yet that they've gotten from whatever intelligence headquarters Operation Mockingbird deals going on.
But I've got some facts and figures for you.
If you go back to 2001, 75% of all the transactions financially that went around the world were done in dollars.
So in 2001, I was 21 years old, that was 75% around the world done in dollars.
By the year 2021, it was 55%.
And since these sanctions put on Russia and Russia dumping the dollar, they actually called it candy wrappers.
They don't even accept dollars anymore.
It has gone to 47% and declining rapidly.
And this has to do with the BRICS nations, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
Saudi Arabia is coming on board.
60 other nations have put in applications to join BRICS, including Mexico.
And you know, things, gold bugs have always been accused of being alarmist.
Oh, you guys, we never have hyperinflation.
We never have this because, you know, the dollar is strong and we're the world's reserve currency.
It's never going to happen.
Well, what happens when we're not the reserve currency of the world?
The Ponzi scheme comes to an end, and so we're watching 60 billion came out of banks last month, Owen.
People are withdrawing, they're putting it into other things.
Uh, some of those things are precious metals.
Um, but this isn't.
We look at you have normalcy bias, it's going to get us all in trouble because you're looking at what's happening with the central banks, what's happening with de-dollarization.
It's not going to be the same economy, it's not going to be the same banking system, and you can see the cracks in it already.
So, I'm concerned.
I think there's a lot of opportunity, but I'm very concerned that there's a lot of people that just don't get it.
They don't understand that when the dollar loses the status of the reserve currency, the devaluation will really go into overdrive.
And again, you know, you look at when a currency dies, um, it's a scramble to find value.
If you go back to the Weime Republic, Germany, 1929, after the Wall Street crash, there was, and that, you know, the war debts and all the pressure that was put on post-post-World War I Germany, they really had to scramble.
And people weren't just in gold and silver, they were trading anything that had value.
And you talked about storable food, but they were dealing in dollars, they were dealing in pounds sterling.
It was, it was a basket of currencies.
And so, you know, crypto will have a also will have a role in this, Bowen.
When I talk to, when I talk to people that are really into Bitcoin, and I see this more often, Austin is kind of a hub of this.
You know, I always say the same thing.
It's like, you know, but the ultimate goal, you know, because a lot of people have kind of had the get-rich quick thing, and that's great.
Everybody wishes for that.
That's why people play the lottery.
But I always say, you know, the ultimate goal isn't the ultimate goal not to measure one Bitcoin versus one dollar, but to say, where can I spend my Bitcoin?
Where can I, where can I purchase something with Bitcoin?
Russia's way up there, but they've been Russia has been accumulating gold really since 2014 heavily after the coup d'etat of the Ukrainian government and all of that that went on in that timeframe with the Donbass and the Crimea.
And so I think what you're watching is Russia's also been liquidating some gold too because the gold price has been driven up because of de-dollarization.
So they're doing fine.
I mean, they pegged their ruble, you know, to so many grams of gold after the sanctions.
So you saw this big dip in their currency when they first invaded Ukraine, but they're back and they're fine.
They're doing strong.
They've made a lot of deals with China.
They're selling their crude, their oil on the open market to places like India, exchanging it for gold on the discount.
It really is something never seen in this country before, Owen.
Look at the history of geopolitics.
I mean, Nixon and Henry Kissinger opened China in 1972.
And at the time, that was a shocking move because a lot of people on the right saw communism as one monolithic block.
But really, what was happening is the Soviet Union and the communist Chinese were actually having shooting wars on some of their old disputed borderlands that were seized by the czars, you know, back in the 18th century, 19th century.
And, of course, you know, China became a nuclear power in 1964.
So, opening China was a huge move.
And say what you will, that was meant to create alliances and end the Cold War.
You know, and by the end of Ronald Reagan's presidency, you know, he was walking shoulder to shoulder with Gorbachev in Red Square, invoking God and praying.
And, you know, the Cold War was coming to an end.
We don't have that same kind of diplomacy or big, big geopolitical thinking now.
As you're talking, we're going through these news headlines.
A lot of these are recent.
Now, Bloomberg is trying to discount this.
It's funny because they all admit now Dollar hegemony is beneficial for the United States.
No kidding.
But it's like they don't explain that to us.
Why are they explaining it to us now when it's all about to fall out?
It's like, it's not, it's like, hey, by the way, what Biden is doing, what our government is doing, what Congress is doing is causing a de-dollar dollarization right now.
But, oh, no, no, no, no, no, they don't see any of that.
It's like, oh, don't worry.
You don't even know what de-dollarization is, but it's not happening.
But since you throw that back into the equation, also, if we're not producing anything, you're going to have inflation and you're going to have an issue where the prices are just going to keep going up too.
Especially in the energy area where we're just not producing enough energy and they want to shut it down and they want to price us out of the energy because, you know, we're killing the planet.
And I look at what I mean, all of the globalist policies that are being thrust upon us for us to, you know, you get these electric cars, nothing wrong with an EV, but the problem is you don't have a grid to support it.
You know, I mean, that great exchange between Pete Buttigedge, you know, Rhodes Scholar man, the transportation secretary, talking to Thomas Massey in Congress.
And Thomas Massey said, you know, it takes, it's going to take at least, you know, the power of having 25 refrigerators in each home to charge these electric vehicles.
You've done nothing with the power grid.
How do you expect to have everyone buy an electric car if there's no grid?
And I think the answer is they don't want you to go anywhere.
I don't know if Trump really brings that into the conversation.
I think that that would be a strong argument for Trump to bring to the conversation.
He would probably be the superior knowledged and experienced voice on that.
But I think the odds are, you know, it seems to me like Vivaik brings the real topics to the fore better than even Trump.
Trump is a little more reactionary on stuff, I think, now, whereas he used to be forward thinking.
He used to bring the topics to the discussion table.
Now he seems to respond more, where Vivaik is now the one kind of bringing the subject table, the subject matter to the table that we need to be digesting.
I don't know if you're familiar.
I don't know how often you're following the politics.
I know you're like Goldfinger for gold and precious metals and the economy.
You're like a bond villain watching the economy and gold every day over here.
I know you are in your hollow earth cave.
But no, are you paying attention at all to the presidential race?
It's, you know, after 2020, I've really kind of looked at the politics of local and the politics of just really about the politics of movement and ideas, kind of the same thing that you do, you know, with your programs and your activism.
It's really just about the ideas.
So, yeah, I mean, I probably will pay more attention as it accelerates and gets closer to 2024.
But right now, I just, I don't, I don't hear the big issues.
The big issues to me are de-dollarization, central bank digital currency, energy independence, turning the engine back on.
I mean, we have, this country is a great country.
We have wonderful workers, wonderful entrepreneurs.
Well, yeah, I mean, just I think here's what's becoming obvious now to people that aren't analytical.
You know, if you talk about being a conspiracy analyst, I think what's becoming obvious to those that aren't analytical is the blatant double standards, right?
And even a dog, folks, they've done studies.
Basic dogs, animals understand a double standard.
Like if you give one dog more to eat than the other, like they see that they understand that.
So, I mean, if a dog gets that, eventually the humans are waking up to that too.
So I think really what's happening is just the basic double standards.
I mean, the attacks against Trump, the political persecution against Trump, the social media censorship.
I think that the double standards are just becoming so obvious now to the average American, like even it would for a dog, that they're starting to think and become analytical.
I don't ever really get accused of that, but I want to bring it.
These are serious subjects.
And I really feel blessed.
I feel like I'm in the right business at the right time.
I got the right relationships with people like you.
Just means so much that I get to come on your show and that you're in my phone and I can talk to you and share ideas with you.
We have a great network.
We're in the right business.
We're where God wants us to be, in my opinion.
And I say that without arrogance.
I just think I'm where I'm supposed to be.
And that's really just helping people understand the history of money, the monetary system, the scam that is the fiat currency system that is, I think, really coming to an end.
That's worldwide.
I think that's why a lot of these countries, including the BRICS nations, they want to put together a currency that's backed by something.
The United States could come roaring back if it decided that it wanted to back its currency up and do some sort of reset fiscally, but you never hear about that anymore.
What happened to all the fiscal hawks?
Remember when we were growing up, there were people trying to cut the budget and stop, you know, stop the deficit?
Well, and I, you know, there's a, I don't know how it gets phrased.
And I admit I am this person.
It's like I'm a communistist.
Like I'm a communistist.
Like, you know, intellectual, intellectual leftists and like classical liberals kind of have this Joker where it's like, oh, you're like, you're the red scare.
Like you buy into all this fear mongering about communism.
I'm proud of that.
I despise communism.
I hate big government.
I don't want anything to do with it.
But what I think, what I think the American people have not fully understood, and I think there's a lot of reasons for this.
One, we don't really leave our country much.
Amongst the civilized world, Americans leave their country less than any other country.
And granted, since we are a bit of a waterlocked country with just two border countries, so there's plenty of different reasons for that, but we just don't leave the country enough.
So we're supposed to have a worldview or a perception of the world from not even having firsthand experience.
And myself included in that, I think I've only been to like four different countries.
So what I think I'm starting to learn as I grow and I study more is that really most of the crazed people are truly in the West.
That's not to say that the Chinese communists don't have their problems and the Russian oligarchs and everything else, but I'm starting to realize that truly the Western elite have just an absolute hatred towards their people.
And I mean, I don't know if that's really represented anywhere else.
Again, I'm not promoting the Chinese communists, but I'm beginning to wonder, like, hey, you know, I don't agree with the idea of communism, but do they really believe it?
Do they really believe it's better for their people?
Like, do they, are they so racist against other groups?
Are they so hegemonic because they really believe that's for their people?
Yeah, they feel like the nation states irrelevant.
You hear the words manage decline, right?
Manage, like they've given up on the United States of America.
And I could take you to me.
If we had a longer show, I could take you on a crash course timeline of when that started, when they decided to, that the United States was going to be a second rate power.
And you can look back, you know, after we went off the gold standard, the birth of the trilateral commission in 73, not running any more trade surpluses, only running trade deficits.
We siphoned off the country.
We pawned America's soul.
We used to make things.
We used to build things.
Now we don't.
Not really.
Not like we used to.
We have massive trade deficits.
I was laughed at when I ran for Congress in 2013 that I said we'd reach a trillion-dollar trade deficit annually.
That's the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind, except for one time.
And that was when we started transferring the wealth from the middle class directly to the billionaires.
And that happened in COVID-19.
And that's when all the bailouts started to happen.
All of the PPP money, all of that, the trillions last three years, Owen.
So that's a massive transfer, bigger than free trade.
But they both go together.
So, I mean, what does the future look like when the United States, and this is interesting, this is the same question that was asked on that first commercial that was run by the World Economic Forum when they said you'll own nothing and you'll be happy?
The first thing they say in that little ad, and I remember covering this on my radio show long before 2020, and it said, imagine a world where the United States is not the lone superpower.
And look at how it's a perfect, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
They promote the idea of anti-Americanism.
They take the crimes that they've committed and projected onto the American people or the values or the principles or the founding fathers, and they use that as propaganda to say, you should hate America.
And then when we tell them to cheer on their own demise, they'll totally buy into it thinking they're some sort of a social justice warrior.
And now that's exactly what we're witnessing, just like we were warned by the KGB defector, I believe.
I forget his name.
I always forget his name, but the Russian in that famous interview, he laid it all out and he said, and you watch, this will happen exactly as I'm saying it.
You will witness it and the people still won't believe it.
There was the Russian propaganda minister, the Soviet propaganda minister, said after the fall of the Soviet Union, it was very poignant and it makes a lot of sense now.
Because you remember that, you know, I'm a little older than you, but, you know, during the 80s, it was, you know, you had morning in America.
It was Ronald Reagan.
And, you know, the philosophy was in the Cold War, we win, they lose.
And we reached the end of the Cold War.
Of course, Reagan, you know, he wasn't a psychopath.
I mean, he wanted zero nuclear weapons.
He wanted to have a complete dismantling of all nuclear arms across the world.
So this isn't like somebody who was a doomsdayer.
But there was something that the Soviet propaganda minister said.
He said, we've done something far worse to you than beat you.
We've taken away your enemy and now you're lost.
So something interesting that happened to us after the fall of the Soviet Union.
And now we, like the Soviet Union, are overextended.
The debts piled on.
We haven't made alliances, true alliances.
And so we are lost.
And I think this is going to be the end of the American empire.
And what happens after that is anybody's guess, but it's not going to be like yesterday.
You know, I will say this in closing because you brought this up earlier when you talked about just that comfort of knowing you're in the right place when you're truly connected to God, when you're truly connected to the creator and seeking that out.
And when we first talked about this, when we first talked about Wolfpack.gold and having Wolfpack.gold microphone, we were both talking about how, you know, we kind of feel like the stars are really aligning right now for people that put themselves in the right position at the right time, that God is going to light a pathway for you.
And if you're seeking that out, then you'll find it.
And it doesn't mean you might not take a missed step, but you'll at least have an idea of where you're supposed to be, where you're supposed to go.
And when we first talked about that with Wolfpack.gold, we both kind of felt the same way.
And so here I am on episode 23.
That was in January.
It's now May.
And I'm assuming on your end that you still feel that you're on the right path and that God is guiding you.
And I think right now it's the time for us to reflect and study and build alliances and support programs like this so we can keep the information flowing.
We're going to need the best information possible to make good decisions.
Well, next time, next time you're on, I'm actually going to dig into this story because this just sounds like an awesome story of your experience at the fall of the bankings, the banking systems in Iraq, because that just sounds like one I want to get walked through.
We're keeping up with your comments in the chat here, but here's what we're going to do.
We're going to just put the phone number back out here, and we'll take two more calls.
We're going to take two more calls tonight: 747-200-5560.
I do have the latest shipment if you're a part of the pack.
The coins that they send out are pretty sweet.
But I kind of have a thing with collecting coins because my grandfather was a world traveler.
He was in the Navy, but he was a world traveler and he was a massive coin collector.
And whenever I would go visit him, I remember in the first house I remember that he lived in with my grandma in his basement.
It's kind of this old tathered basement.
And he had just a massive coin collection.
He'd take out this massive bag, massive bags of coin, and I would just rifle through them.
And they'd be from all over the world, every different kind, different colors.
And so I kind of just, I don't know if it's like it reminds me of my grandpa or just because it was just a good memory and going through the coin collections that now I think coins are cool and just all the different countries and the different designs that come on them.
But you get like there were some coins that, if you remember, Wolfpack, over 100 years old that I've seen before.
And then some are just brand new.
So, but you don't have to talk about that if you don't like to.
You can call in on anything.
People will give me a hard time because I still haven't played Pokemon Live.
Maybe I'll just do that then instead.
Maybe we'll just fire up a Pokemon game and I'll just start it.
No, but I did do it actually one time already.
I just never did it again.
Look, you people are you demand political news coverage from me.
I will have to say, though, on the love of my life, it's a hard story, but I met her 2019.
I knew in the first five minutes of meeting her, like, I wanted to marry her.
She said the same words.
This is the tragedy of the story: I know her name as Shona Bones.
She knows me as Trenton Ratzloff.
And we're going to spend our lives together.
But her dad came and took her away from me.
And she was a mental and threw her in a mental institution.
And I never seen her again.
And if there's a way to reunite with her, I would love to do that.
It's kind of an extreme story, but I just put it, I just put it out there.
And I might find somebody else, but I've never felt like I've ever wanted to marry someone and meet someone, you spend you spend like a few days with them, and then you never see him again.
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