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May 2, 2023 - Owen Shroyer Live
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OSL 23 - How Is Fox News Coping With Carlson Out Week 2
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Owen Schroyer live episode 23, episode number 23 this evening.
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Okay, so I can't get over this performance that I saw Saturday of Gojira, who I was supposed to see last time they came through Austin.
and then something happened and I couldn't make it.
I don't remember.
I think Mario DePlant is probably the second best drummer in the world, I would say, behind Danny Carey right now.
And so getting to witness that guy live was mind-blowing.
And specifically, that song, The Sell, was one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
And I think that performance for me puts Gojira as the number three best live show I've ever seen.
But we might talk about that later.
I want to talk about what's going on tonight on Fox News.
Oh, and there may or may not be video, if you care to see it, of me actually rocking out.
Somebody else was filming video of the Gojira show in Austin, and somebody may or may not have gotten footage of me rocking out during Gojira performing the sell.
So we may do a little where's Waldo there.
But I noticed something.
I noticed something on Fox News tonight.
Lawrence Jones hosting.
I like Lawrence Jones.
And they have Buck Sexton, Buck Sexton, former CIA agent, on to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and the new Epstein calendar that shows him with CIA and bank people, The Rothschilds, Burns, all these deep state central bankers.
And I'm thinking, okay, well, with that, there's two things going on.
Either A, Fox is trying to cope with the fact people have lost trust in it as an institution for news.
And so they're trying to cope by bringing up this story that they know can get a lot of attention, that they know is a righteous one.
And it's like, oh, yeah, let's head fake and care about this all of a sudden.
Or is there maybe a little bit of a pushback, maybe a little bit of an internal struggle within Fox News to try to keep the guess it's 8 o'clock Eastern hour, 7 o'clock central hour, the most anti-establishment hour out there.
I don't know.
I do know that Tucker Carlson's crew and his producers, aside from the ones that were obviously stabbing him in the back, but they were irrelevant.
They weren't really doing anything anyway.
His real crew, his real producers are all solid people.
And I know that some of them are going to leave or already have left and are going to work with him, but I don't know if they're all, some of them might still be there.
So, but to me, that was like, okay, you got that nobody wants to watch Kill Mead in prime time.
And you knew you had to do something to try to make that hour worthy again.
So you bring up the Epstein thing with the former CIA agent, Buck Sexton.
So interesting.
Now, here's another thing that's interesting about this.
Now, I'm not trying to sell you some hopium.
I'm not selling hopium here.
And I'm certainly not into the Q stuff.
But what, what we're so numb to this whole Epstein thing and the ridiculousness of it because the case should already be open and shut, but the world doesn't work how we want it to.
And I'm thinking, I'm like, okay, well, what is these leaks?
How many more leaks are we going to see from the Epstein client list?
And then it got me thinking about how crazy October 2024 is going to be.
I think if Trump gets past the nomination stage, because maybe they're going to try to do another deep state coup, Republican neocon coup against Trump in 2024.
Now, he should still do the debates.
That's only going to help him.
But maybe there is.
Maybe that's the deal.
Because if Trump makes it to October 2024 as the Republican candidate, you know, you know that himself or people in his support bubble are going to have the most damning October surprises
that we've probably ever seen.
And they're not going to be able to hide them thanks to Twitter, but maybe they'll be able to hide them on cable news because they got Tucker Carlson out.
But I don't know.
I don't know.
But nobody, nobody is going to be trusting CNN and MSNBC.
Not enough for them to have the impact on an election that they need.
And when they lost control of Twitter, that was huge, folks.
So since we're kind of already ahead of schedule in the spirit of 2024, my mind was just racing to that point in time because it's going to be crazy from now till then.
And then that is going to be monumental and paramount as to where the awakening goes from here.
Because the truth is, in a way, political victories are, I shouldn't say political victories are irrelevant.
Political victories are extremely important, but the most important political victories we're never going to have again.
We're going to get cheated and rigged so much that I mean, folks, come on.
2020 with the vote Viagra for Biden.
So it's the awakening that's really the true measurement now.
And I'm telling you, the groundwork has already been done to such an extent now that it's just going to be crazy, October 2024.
And no matter what happens, they're not going to be able to stop this awakening.
It's just impossible at this point, folks.
There's too many influential people.
There's too many smart people.
There's too many good people.
It just cannot be done.
I mean, total slavery is the only option they have.
And that's why they're going to try a war.
That's why they're going to try a pandemic.
That's why they're going to try to microchip you.
That's why they're going for all the global warming scam.
It's all this different pincer attack to get you totally under control because they know that this volcano of human consciousness that's been dormant is about to just explode.
And they can't suppress the technology any longer.
They can suppress the currency.
They can suppress the energy, but they can't suppress the technology.
It's crossing a threshold.
And if it is Kennedy Trump 2024, then we're actually doing better than I could have ever imagined.
Now, I don't expect that.
I expect Biden Trump.
That's what my money is on right now: Biden Trump.
And I've said I still believe Biden wins.
Not because of a legitimate election.
I've explained why.
The Republicans can't win in the five states the Democrats stole last election.
They can't, if they don't get in control of what happens in Philadelphia and Atlanta and Milwaukee and Detroit and Philadelphia, it doesn't matter.
Does not matter.
And there's nothing that they've done.
And now Kevin McCarthy is flip-flopping on the Ukraine situation and he wants to support Ukraine now.
Thanks, Kevin.
That a boy.
Man, why Trump got behind him is just and see, that's the exact type of person you need not just going to bat for you when he can score political points, but going to bat for you when he can actually do something.
Kevin McCarthy, as the House Speaker, could be getting so much dirt right now from the GOP, the oversight committee, all these other things.
They could be getting so much dirt right now for 2024.
It is ridiculous.
And do you think Kevin McCarthy is doing that?
Do you think Kevin McCarthy is spearheading that movement?
There might be some forward thinking like that, but it's not Kevin McCarthy.
No.
He's already been a total bust to me.
And I gave him a shot.
I did.
I was totally against him.
And I gave him a shot.
But he's a complete bust now.
He's a zero.
He's scoring a zero on the board right now.
And I think it's time for they need to do it now.
It's time for Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gates, and the Freedom Caucus to stand up and say, you know what?
Kevin McCarthy has done nothing.
And so we're going to have to raise a little fuss here or just straight up remove you.
So I don't see that going.
I don't see there being any other path, but we'll see.
I don't think it's going to happen, unfortunately.
But it won't even matter.
The October 2024 is going to be so ludicrous.
I mean, you understand, there are dozens of FBI whistleblowers right now.
Dozens.
Like three or four of them go public.
The rest are just talking to people they can trust, which is very few people.
And so now you're looking at if Jim Jordan is a good guy and Matt Gates and some of these others, if they're good, then they're going to be eventually getting to Trump with these people.
I know a lot of them go to Dan Bongino.
Now, I don't know that he and Trump talk.
But, you know, they trust Bongino, former secret service agent.
So if they don't get proper tread in these and their whistleblowing, then they're going to eventually go to Trump in 2024.
And I mean, all the dirt on the Bidens.
I mean, this is crazy.
This is crazy.
So, yeah, well, Marjorie Taylor Greene needs to accept that McCarthy has been a bust.
So I know that he was backed, that she backed him, but she needs to just come around and he's a bust, especially after the Ukraine comments today.
Ridiculous.
I was wondering why haven't I heard from Kevin McCarthy lately?
And then here he comes to talk about more aid for Ukraine.
More aid for Ukraine.
Kevin Morade for Ukraine McCarthy is who he is now.
Do I even want to cover this stuff?
No.
Let's just take some phone calls, huh?
How about that?
We do have a guest coming up at nine on the phone lines, but we can take your calls till then.
Is Fox News trying to cope by covering Tucker Carlson tonight, or is somebody inside trying to salvage that news hour?
And then do you have any hope that there'll be any form of justice in the Epstein flight log, client list, calendar, sex trafficking?
I don't know.
Maybe I'm getting gaslit just because they covered it on Fox News, and that was the intention.
But it was all over the news this weekend.
It was everywhere this weekend.
Mainstream news, cable news, network news, weekend night news.
So, I don't know.
Can you really cover all that up?
So, these are some topics for the phone lines tonight: 747-255-60.
And this is line to line.
So, I pick up, I answer, I ask your name, where you're from, give it to us straight, and then we will take your call.
but it's just me here.
I didn't see RFK denounce the climate change statement.
I hope that's not true.
I hope he didn't say jail climate deniers.
That'd be really sad.
But still, I'd still support him in the Democrat Party because I'd rather have him on the debate stage with Trump.
But I don't think, I mean, RFK, it's the same with Trump.
Like, RFK is going to have opinions you disagree with.
He's going to say things you disagree with.
He's going to have policy you disagree with.
I'm not a political purist.
And at the bottom line, I'd rather have somebody in here that I know is at least thinking for himself and isn't going to sell me out to somebody else.
I'd rather have somebody that makes mistakes or has things I disagree with than somebody who's a sellout and whose job it is to sell me out.
Way too much of that.
I don't know.
The last comment I heard from RFK was that the whole climate change thing is bullcrap.
And that was on TV this weekend with Chuck Turd.
So, see, here's what they're doing to RFK: they're giving him the brief platform right now as just kind of like a tease and then to feel him out.
And then, once he gets closer to the election, they're going to pull the rug is what they're going to do.
All right, first caller of the night.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
This is Bart Vine in Georgia.
Good evening, Owen.
Bart gets through.
He comes in with the single, squeaks it through the infield to be the first caller tonight.
And all the confusion, what were the topics again, please?
So, do you think Fox News is trying to cope with the loss of Tucker Carlson by covering Epstein tonight?
Or do you think maybe there's some internal pushback trying to keep that hour with some semblance of respect?
And do you have any faith there'll be any justice in the Epstein case?
No, there's never going to be any real justice, high level, just low level.
And I don't think Fox News cares because they knew that this was going to happen.
Fox News is a weapon.
It's not a news agency.
It's full of BS.
I mean, we all know that now.
Well, there you go, Bart.
You weren't even properly prepared and you still aced it.
Just like high school.
Can relate.
Can relate.
Yeah, I don't think there's going to be any kind of justice because Epstein, obviously, we all know he didn't kill himself.
I mean, that was impossible.
So they killed him because he would have.
They were afraid he was going to squeal on everybody else to save his own ass because that's what they do, you know.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, that's what 99.9% of people believe.
I mean, these people are all, they're all a bunch of creepy monsters, man, like Hillary Clinton and the buns.
If you just look at their faces, it's just disgusting, just physically disgusting, makes you want to throw up.
So there you go.
That's all I have to say.
Yeah, sometimes you can judge a book by its cover.
I think we were even designed to do that, Bart.
I think there's a reason why that happens.
I don't think that's accidental.
I think that is a learned thing from years and generations and millennia of human beings.
Yeah, I don't blame people for not thinking there's going to be any justice because what would change our mind at this point?
But it's like, but I do wonder, though, like, what's with the leak?
Like, slowly leaks and all this stuff?
Like, somebody out there is trying to get this damn to break.
Somebody is trying.
All right, we got our next caller.
What's your name?
Where you from?
Scott from Oklahoma.
All right, Scott, what's up?
I'm just kind of curious to get your opinion on what do you think Trump is going to say to defend his stance on the vaccine during a debate?
Well, I hope he doesn't lie and tell us how great it is.
He's obviously afraid of that moment.
I think he'll probably lie.
I think he'll probably lie.
He'll probably say the vaccine was great.
Now, he may kind of back off of the actual vaccine and make it about trying to get the economy and the country back open is where he may try to have it fall to.
But yeah.
I just honestly, I don't see anything other than him retracting, coming out and saying, I was fooled.
I don't see anything besides that energizing his base.
Well, look, it may be a problem for you.
It might be a problem for me.
But the truth is, for most Trump voters, it's just not.
I don't know, man.
I'm right here, right here in Oklahoma in the middle of the Bible belt, and Trump doesn't have near the support he had.
He will, though.
He will.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, yeah, of course they want to vote for him if that's the only option.
But if anyone, Vivek, if he comes out, if the debates happen, man, I could see people rallying around him.
Who do you think, though, could really destroy Trump in a debate?
Because even if DeSantis plays that card, which I would expect him to, I don't think DeSantis can take him down.
Trump has kind of already stymied DeSantis enough that I don't know if DeSantis can recover from that.
I mean, Vivek is different, though.
Vivek is kind of a different story.
If he goes there, then it could have more impact.
Absolutely.
I think he destroyed Trump in a debate, you know, trying to defend his record, Trump, trying to defend his record.
I mean, he got a lot of good things done, but he didn't get as much done as he could have.
No, he definitely.
He definitely left a ton of openings.
I mean, there's no doubt about that.
I mean, it's pretty simple.
Oh, Trump, how is Drain the Swamp?
I think the swamp is more powerful than ever.
I mean, you know.
Absolutely.
Well, that was, I was just wanting your take on that.
I appreciate it.
All right.
Thank you much for the call.
We take another caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
I'm sorry.
Hello.
This is Wayne from Texas.
Hello, Lane.
Hey, sorry.
It took me a minute, man.
That was fast getting through.
Well, it's just, it's just me in a phone line here.
Yeah.
Man, I just, I just thought of something the other day.
And, you know, this is just total like tin full hat speculation, but wouldn't it be the most amazing thing if we found out that Trump had set up a sting operation using the nine seasons of celebrity apprentice to find out who all these people were using to boost their 501c3s, who their donors were, you know, how they were going to evade taxes.
I mean, I'm smiling at the concept, but I don't understand how it works.
I didn't really watch The Apprentice.
I mean, how would that even work?
Yeah, so what, so what happens is, is they, because I mean, they like had Rod Rob Logoevich on, you know, as one of the years.
And then, of course, Schwarzenegger did it the year after Trump announced he was running for president.
But what they would do is they would have all these different celebrities come on and they would have their own 501c3, you know, charities.
And what they would do is they would essentially call and they would raise money for all of them, for all their own 501c3s.
And whoever raised the most for their charity, the network would also make a big donation, which I believe was CBS, if my memory serves me correct, which was, I think, later.
Yeah, it was CBS, I want to say.
But they would also make a big donation to the charity that raised the most money.
So I would say, so I would say to answer your question, a 1% chance.
You know, but I was just thinking, no, it would be the most amazing thing ever.
You know, if he could have resourcefully used that in some way, shape, or fashion, you know, the hubris of these people, it would be mind-boggling.
Yeah, that's a funny concept, but virtually impossible.
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.
I'm still, I'm still for Trump, though, man.
You know, he, he, every time Trump talks about the vaccine, in one way, I get mad at him, but then in another way, too, it's like, I feel like he has to bring it up and put it out there because he wants it to stay fresh in people's memories.
Hey, hold, hold, hold on for one second.
Hold on.
I don't want to throw those facts at him.
I actually just stuck to the basic facts, which everyone understands.
I've got VVEC live right now.
And what it means to be a woman.
That is what it means to stand for truth.
No, I'm stealing it from Hannity.
He's on Hannity right now.
He's not on with me.
I wish he was on with me.
That was the core premise of the game.
That would be nice.
He should come on with me.
Your own biological sex is completely fluid over the course of your life.
Those two things cannot make sense at the same time unless you're subscribing to a sort of cult.
And that's what this LGBTQIA plus movement has become.
It's not about logic.
It's a cult, which is why, Sean, I like going on those programs.
Don Lane, Chuck Todd, you name it.
I like going on and having debate on the other side's home table.
That's what we're going to do.
I like that.
I used to do all those shits.
I did the Today show.
I did.
I like that.
You.
Yes.
Was not the most pleasant experience of my life.
I'll tell you that.
But you said something else that was very reasonable that people have not picked up on.
And you said, look, somebody becomes 18 years old.
At that point, if they want to make that decision, they're now old enough as an adult, pretty much 18, to make that decision.
And they should be free to make that decision.
The part I have a problem with is when you have teachers in schools.
All right.
So what I was going to say is about Trump is, you know, there's certain things that he brings up that are, you know, distasteful to his main core, you know, like touting, you know, authorization work speed and things like that.
But I believe a lot of the times he brings those things up just because he wants it to stay fresh in people's minds.
I think he doesn't want the people to forget about it.
So he'll cheerlead certain things, even though it's not necessarily politically advantageous.
He's an adult.
Live your life freely.
Leave our kids alone.
Hold on a second.
We can all live peaceably that way.
So, in the name of rights, what they've actually done, Sean, is created a new culture of oppression in the opposite direction, imposing that on kids.
I'll tell you this: I was campaigning in New Hampshire.
I met two young women.
It was a sad story.
Both of them, when they were teenagers, had their breasts cut off, had chemical intervention.
One of them had her uterus removed.
She now wants to have children.
She won't be able to.
This is sad that we live in a country that allows us to do that to these kids.
There isn't a state in this union that allows you to get a tattoo.
Why on earth are you allowed as a kid to get genital mutilation and chemical castration instead?
So that's what I'm going to deliver as president.
This is eminently reasonable, and I think it can actually unify our country.
All right, Breva, Prahama Swami.
Thank you for being lost.
We appreciate it.
All right.
Any response to that?
Oh, wait a second.
I muted the caller.
Okay, sorry about that.
You're back on.
Okay, good, Dill.
No, no, what was it that you wanted to know if I had a response to?
Could you hear the V-Vake?
No, I couldn't, unfortunately.
Oh, you weren't hearing that?
No.
Oh, oh, I guess that makes sense.
I see why now.
Okay, I was not sending you audio.
I apologize.
Well, anyway, he was just commenting on Fox News.
Hannity is asking him about the trans kid thing, and he was just calling it genital mutilation, which it is.
So good for him.
Yeah, no.
So as far as the comments of the trans things go, I mean, it's you only get, like I said, man, the way I look at it, it is, is, is, it's, you know, it's the letter of the law that they want to, you know, change, you know, essentially the commandments that are laid out in our constitution, you know, by using it's, you know, it's the way they want to add to and subtract from and water down the meaning of what our laws actually are.
And they don't, they're not beholden to, you know, the self-evident, inalienable rights, you know, that are given from our creator endowed.
You know, they're, they're beholden to, you know, the LGBTQ plus, you know, woke global climate change critical race theory agenda.
And what's interesting is if you want to get into, you want to read about like the Lunar Society of Birmingham, which is where the word lunatics, they referred to themselves as lunatics, but these were, you know, these were like, you know, Benjamin Franklin, you know, and, you know, Galton, you know, and these characters, if you read about the Lunar Society of Birmingham and you read about the members of those, then you would see where a lot of the ideas of like critical race theory or, you know, global.
Yeah, the roots of all these leftist movements always come from some sort of communist or Marxist radical background almost every time, almost every time.
And they don't want their followers to know that.
Hey, thank you for the call.
Let's take another one.
What's your name, where you're from?
My name is Kelly and I'm from Oregon.
Hi, Kelly.
Hello.
Hey, first, I got to do a plug.
Winter Sun and X2 have totally helped me with my migraines.
And so I want to say thank you for that.
Wow.
I know, I absolutely love it.
That's great.
Survival Shield.
You said it was Survival Shield, you said, right?
Yes.
Yes.
Survival Shield and Winter Sun.
Survival Shield at InfowarStore.com.
It might be sold out right now, unfortunately.
It is.
I know I wanted to reorder some and you guys are sold out, but I am going to order it.
We'll get it back.
We'll get it back.
Yes, you will.
You will.
And so you were talking about whether or not they were, if they were using Tucker Spot to talk about the same thing.
And I don't know if that is a conscious decision or if you just can't ignore it.
It's one of those things that everyone's talking about.
So if they didn't talk about it, it would be too obvious that they didn't talk about it.
So they kind of had to.
And so I don't know if it was a conscious or an unconscious decision.
I mean, Buck Sexton is on there.
He was on there with Tucker.
So it's kind of a normal thing just to have him on there.
But I don't know if anyone watched it.
You know, well, look, and the people in the people in the comments are saying, don't watch Fox News.
Don't watch Fox News.
Look, people can make their own decisions.
I'm going to watch Fox News.
I'm a media critic.
I have to watch it so I can talk about it.
And quite frankly, you don't have to.
Now, I do support the idea of boycotting Fox News to make them at least feel some pressure and some pinch from what they did to Tucker.
But I mean, it is what it is.
It's the only mainstream conservative news channel, if you want to call it that.
And it still does the best presentation, probably.
Yes.
And I have to say one more thing.
I have had an issue with knowing things.
Like because I've watched you guys now for so many years, that when it comes into the news and like somebody in my family or my friend will say something, they'll be like, Did you hear about this?
Sometimes I have to act surprised because I've already known it.
And it's the funniest thing because I'm like, yeah, I've known about that.
And they're like, how did you know about that?
I'm like, Infowars.
Anyways, I just want to say thank you.
You guys are all awesome over there.
And I love this.
I love Monday nights and it's really nice.
So thank you very much for everything you guys do.
That's very kind, Kelly.
And man, I mean, I feel like I got to get you some survival shield.
I'll tell you what, if we don't have it back in stock or an idea by next Monday, you call back and we'll make sure we get you some.
All right.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Owen, Rick in FEMA Regent 4.
What's happening?
Hey, Rick, what's going on?
Good old Monday, man.
Good to see you.
Hit 6,100 followers on Twitter.
Yeah, it's funny because in the beginning, Twitter was getting no traction and Rumble was getting all the traction.
Now it's starting to move on to that Twitter account.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
So congrats on that.
As far as Fox, man, used to always watch, but it's literally just the conservatives spoke of the propaganda machine at this point.
Yeah, I mean, Fox News is outside of Tucker Carlson, it's not really, it's not really moving any minds.
No, no, not at all.
I mean, and it's as far as that dovetails into the whole form of justice with the Epstein bit.
I mean, it's just a slow drip to nowhere.
It's literally, you know, it's not going to amount to anything.
Well, it hasn't so far, other than some press.
Yeah, no, exactly.
Hey.
Oh, and it's funny too, because it's the same media.
I love this now.
You have them leaking back behind the scenes Tucker Carlson footage that's like, okay.
If anything, it makes you like him more.
What are they going to release next?
And it's like, oh, we've got Tucker Carlson talking about website issues at Fox Nation, like, okay, a new platform, like it's, it's normal stuff.
And they act like this is some sort of a revelation.
But, oh, when Amy Roebach is on a hot mic on a hot camera talking about how they had to spike the Epstein story to protect Hillary Clinton, we don't, oh, no, no, no, we don't.
That's not a big deal.
Tucker Carlson talking about a malfunctioning website, though.
That's the one.
Well, no, that's more aid for Ukraine.
You know, it's the uniparty subsidies.
But Cripkeeper yelling, she's out there warning today about June 1st default without passing a new debt ceiling.
The whole debt conversation is such a joke because nobody wants to address the real issue, and that's that the debt is out of control.
It's never that nobody's doing anything to get it in control.
And it's like the only thing that does stop it is stop government spending, but nobody wants to do that.
And another third bank collapse, too.
Oh, they'll let JP Morgan just buy them all up for pennies on the dollar.
Absolutely.
Hey, Jack, did you hear illegal immigration is down 90% of the time?
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
These people are living in a different planet.
So for those that do not know, Corrine Jean Pierre claimed today at the White House podium that illegal immigration was down 90%.
Rick, Q the Clownhorn.
It's something else, isn't it?
She's an idiot.
Without question.
Last bit, man.
Excellent clarity on the AV tonight.
Everything's dialed in.
And the sell, nice opening track with that Gojira.
I'm actually glad you acknowledge Danny's skills.
Danny's the king.
You know, I've learned, this is what I've learned because I've talked about everything on the air and people like my political opinions the most.
But the truth is, I can talk at all, man.
I love music.
I love sports.
I love culture.
I love art.
I love it all.
I'm a lover of life.
Do you, should I play the video of me rocking out at Gojira?
Do you want to see this?
Yeah, fucking hey.
I'm like a tiny little ant here, but you know, it's kind of funny.
Here, let me see which one we got.
There's two of them.
I think this is the right one.
All right, bear with me here for a second.
Have you ever seen them live?
Actually, I haven't.
Oh, man.
If they come through, enjoy, enjoyed the comment of what was it earlier on Warring metal heads with higher IQs.
It's true.
It's scientific.
Don't doubt it.
Don't doubt it.
Exactly.
Don't doubt me on this.
All right.
So this is me right here.
Here, let me.
I'm right here.
Are you, if you're watching right now, this is me right here.
This little blip, this little ant.
This is me.
And you'll see me headbanging really hard here to the cell right there.
Got it.
Oh, there's the better shot of it.
Okay, here we go.
Right here.
This little speck right there.
That was me rocking out.
I got to tell you, I've seen a lot of live performances.
That was one of the coolest things was their performance of the cell live.
I mean, it is incredible.
Definitely going to check them out.
But good to see you on the shows and hope all is well.
All right, my man.
Good to hear from you.
As usual.
Now, we'll tell you, the Gojira is still touring.
They will be touring through August.
They do go through Europe this summer, but they still got a lot of shows left in America.
If you make it, though, you know, this is something that's actually kind of cool about it.
And this is my understanding: is, I mean, to me, it was pretty clear that I think Gojira was the biggest draw, but Mastodon is the headliner band, and it was Lorna Shore, who's probably the hottest thing in metal right now, as far as an up-and-coming band, Lorna Shore.
And they've got videos that just go massively viral with their music now.
And so they're kind of the hot up and coming thing.
And then you have Gojira, which is kind of this underappreciated, like undersold band.
And then there's Mastodon that's just been doing it forever.
And it's kind of like they're all just building it up, building up the metal industry and just making sure it's lasting and just building deep roots and just supporting these other bands.
And that was really cool.
But if you do go see them, get there immediately when the doors open because you want to see Lorna Shore and you don't want to miss anything.
So let's go to the next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey, this is John in Colorado.
What's up, John?
Hey, I don't know if you remember me.
I called you last week.
We're talking about the mark of the beast.
Okay.
I hate to change the subjects.
I mean, you sound like you're having a good old time there, and you work so darn hard.
I'm always having a good time with you guys.
Yeah, you do.
You love your job, but it's, you know, it's still work.
I mean, it's a little different than being at the heavy.
Well, yeah, it's true.
I go to the heavy metal show and I headbang.
All right.
That's how I cope.
That's cool, man.
Perfectly family-friendly, healthy.
Yeah, hell.
At least you're not down there in one of those mosh pits, you know.
Man, I can't do that anymore.
I can't do that.
Like, I can't do the music festivals anymore.
And that's why I have that seat.
That's like a little club seat there, but I'm right there next to the stage.
It's pretty sweet.
But I can't, I just can't do it.
I can't do like, and I was thinking about that too, because I do every once in a while like to go into the pit.
I do.
I was at the pit when Muse came through town not too long ago.
I was deep in the pit for Ramstein when they were at the Alamo Dome.
That was crazy.
That was the number two performance.
But I think I could, if I, if I went again, I think I'd want to do the pit just one time.
I, I, just, just one time I'd want to be in a Gojira pit.
Uh, I thought it was like pretty dangerous down there.
Nah, nah.
Nah, nah, nah.
There's not a lot of bumping and pushing.
And well, I mean, you know, I mean, yeah.
You don't, you don't go in like a softy.
I think it's going to be brave to go down there.
No, there's nobody – if somebody gets out of line in the pit, they'll be dealt with.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Well, I hate to change the subject, but, you know, it's kind of hard to put this, but, I mean, I think you say, what are we going to do to fight, you know, the evil?
Alex calls it evil, and I think you do too, the evil force.
And he thinks it's some sort of possession.
You know, I'm talking about the people that run the New World Order or the Illuminati or whoever these people are are into, you know – The death cult?
Yeah, the death cult.
They're into Satanism and all that, right?
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
Well, anyway, I mean, if we go back to the prophecy in the Bible, I think it all ends at Armageddon.
Is that your understanding?
I don't know.
I thought – I don't know.
I don't really like to comment on theology or biblical expertise.
I don't claim to be the expert in that, and so I really don't even want to comment.
It's my understanding in Revelations that the meek inherit the earth.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not an expert either, and I'm not trying to put anyone on the line or push any beliefs, but I just think there's a showdown of the good and the evil forces before the evil forces destroy the creation.
That's how I understand it, and that good will win at the showdown.
Well, it's like the ultimate human dichotomy, and if you really – if you look at all of God's creations, there seems to be dichotomy.
It's a consistent pattern.
It's a trend, this dichotomy, and it's represented in good versus evil.
It's represented in man versus woman or just man and woman.
It's represented in day and night, land and sea.
And so it seems to just be everywhere, and there's no doubt that's why good versus evil has been – it's been in literature, text, lore, mythology for recorded history.
Yeah.
Well, I think you say pretty often that, you know, just keep it up, you liberals or whatever these people are.
You know, the good people are just not going to take it anymore and, you know, put an end to it.
Isn't that what you're trying to say?
I mean, they can only push it so far.
I mean, I have friends that were either apolitical or even liberal that used to think I was nuts or just, you know, just – they were just indifferent.
And now they're sending me stuff that they see.
They're like, oh, my gosh, you were right.
And, hey, can you believe they're doing this?
So, I mean, it's impossible.
I mean, men or women?
Look, most people are still not paying attention.
They don't realize the left is claiming men or women.
They don't realize men are competing against women in sports.
They have no idea about trans kid surgery.
The average person still is not informed on these things.
And so once it gets into their lives, are you really going to convince the majority of people that a man is a woman and that we're supposed to just accept that?
No.
No.
And now – see, here's why I think Vivek is actually smart.
Because we might not want to talk about the trans issue.
And the truth is, neither do they.
They don't want to talk about it either.
They want it to be this underneath the table kind of, you know, sleight of hand thing that they're doing at the library, at the school, in the classroom.
They don't want this to be on the debate stage.
So I get, we don't want to talk about it, but if Vivek, if the Democrats are forced to talk about this issue on the debate stage, it's a losing issue.
They're done.
They don't want to.
So Vivek is smart.
Put this into the conversation and then make Democrats defend it.
Yeah, yeah, but you know, they're not even going to debate or have any of those, you know, in the primaries and they're going to do like they did last time, keep Biden hidden.
But now, someone was talking about Trump.
You were talking about Trump that if he wins, do you really think there's going to be a change if he actually?
I mean, I think you think they're going to rig the vote and he's not going to win.
That's pretty obvious.
I mean, they're going to do that if they can get away with it.
And you said the Republicans.
Hey, I listen to you a lot, man.
You say the Republicans aren't doing a darn thing about it.
So Trump is not going to win.
But let's say he did.
Do you really think things would change?
I mean, well, that's a bit of a vague question.
What do you mean by change?
Well, I mean, like the Justice Department, all the people that are committing all these crimes.
Well, okay, so let's separate it like this.
Let's separate, let's separate establishment politics from standard of living.
Will there be a change in your standard of living?
Absolutely 100%.
It would improve just like it did.
I'm guessing, I know it did for me 2017, 2018, 2019.
And then after 2020, it's all gone downhill.
So standard of living, absolutely.
Cheaper energy and less regulation, so more innovation.
Now, as far as deep state establishment politics, will anything change there?
Probably not.
Probably not.
But if I had the two options on the table of no change in deep state politics and no change in standard of living versus no change in deep state politics, but a good change in standard of living, I'm going to take the latter.
Yeah.
Well, I think Trump is saying that he's going to put it in, or they're going to be a big change with the buy agencies.
I mean, how could the guy not?
If he has any, if he has any integrity whatsoever at this point, because it's even beyond that.
I mean, even like I would just think out of his own pride, he'd want to go after the people that tried to destroy him.
Yeah.
They went after him and his family.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, Kennedy, I mean, look what they did to him.
Well, I tell you, that was really awful.
Was that ABC News that read that little statement?
You kept saying her name.
I can't remember.
Lindsay Davis.
It's the most famous she's ever been for silencing a politician, for censoring and lying about RFK.
Can you believe people actually listen to this and hear it on?
They don't.
They don't.
No, I mean, they'll have it in their house and they might not realize it's fake, but they don't really listen.
See, you're an active listener.
You're like somebody that shows up to class and actually wants to learn and take notes and know what's going on.
You don't just show up and take a nap or like, you know, get distracted with a game on your phone.
So that's the difference between an audience member like you that tunes into InfoWars or somewhere else versus somebody that just sits at dinner, flips on ABC News, and then it's just background noise.
You know what I'm talking about?
Hey, thanks for the call.
I'm going to take one more call here before we got the call-in guest.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Johan from Arkansas.
What's going on?
The Cut Destroyer.
Dude, have you ever heard of Derek Jonthan?
He's a country music singer.
I'm not too knowledgeable on the country music scene.
So I may know some of his music, but it doesn't ring a bell.
Well, me neither.
But I heard him on, there's this outfit called the X22 report.
I know you've heard of that one.
Well, I'm not big on the QAnon stuff, but this dude really struck a chord, man.
He's retired military, and the research that he's done into all this stuff is unbelievable.
You know, I'm not big on crossword puzzles and shit, but dude, like this one brought me into not necessarily the QAnon, but the whole military aspect of what's going on as far as this being an operation.
It's wild, man.
He's got this website.
I know y'all probably hate having like, you know, recommendations for the shows and stuff, but, bro, love y'all.
Love InfoWars.
He's got a site called the Documents.info.
Check out some of his stuff that he does.
But man, the knowledge that that dude spouts.
And as far as Tucker, bro, this dude is about to wake up more gray hairs than all truthers combined like the past 20 years.
I mean, you know.
And imagine if somehow he switches people from TV heads to being able to learn how to get information via the internet.
That would be critical.
Well, that's going to be the switch, though.
See, like Trump, he's the greatest showman on earth.
Like, his job in history is to show the man.
Like, he's going to show so many people everything that's been going on.
I mean, not just like the corruption, but I mean, you know, let's just say this too.
And I don't know how you feel about this.
This is how I feel about this.
And quite frankly, whether you're religious or not, I just don't, everybody I feel relates to this.
But call it God intervention or, you know, people have a bunch of different, you know, atheists might call it something else.
But I mean, how many times have you had an experience in your life where something just almost nearly impossible happened and you're just like, what?
That was divine intervention.
That was something in the fabric of creation, in the fabric of existence that made that happen.
That wasn't.
I was in a 99 Trans Zam and I hit a power pole doing 80 mile an hour, no seatbelt.
I hit a sign like eight foot in the air with the passenger side, the power pole with the front side, and I woke up in the back hatch.
I mean, I broke my nose.
That was it.
Like, that's exactly what you're talking about, dude.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So even in a situation like that, you can come out with just a bit of a busted nose when surely you shouldn't even be here calling into this show right now.
So if that can happen, who knows?
Maybe we can pull out an election victory.
Maybe Trump can drain the swamp.
I don't know about election victory.
There might be some other influence.
What's going on?
You know, in the next two years, there's no telling what the hell's going to happen.
You know, Democrat intervention is strong, but there's still one more level that they don't quite understand and control yet.
Well, what we need to be pushing is this is a spiritual war.
I mean, it's hidden.
Everything's hidden, but it's going to be made known.
You know what I mean?
That's what's going to make folks snap out of it.
Well, and that's why I was saying, too, that this next October surprise round is just going to be crazy.
It's not even going to matter what the result is at this point.
Because everything happens in shorter periods of time now.
So it was like, okay, they censored the Hunter Biden laptop story.
They got away with it.
If they try to do it again this time, it won't work.
It won't work.
Well, I mean, folks know stuff's evil.
Stuff knows, you know, everything's bad.
Everything's wrong.
Everything's twisted.
Everything's upside down in clown world.
But we need to start waking folks up to slavery by consent.
I mean, the bottom line is we're just running in circles until folks start to wake up that it's slavery by consent.
The more we consent, the more they're just going to keep playing into it.
Slavery by consent.
I haven't heard it phrased that way, but that's kind of like it is.
It's in the founders' documents, bro.
Slavery by consent.
The 14th Amendment.
Yeah, Kanye put it differently when he said slavery was a choice or slavery is a choice.
Well, it'll take into what Founders had, and it's been sitting in front of us the whole time.
But that's exactly it.
If we comply with this system, then it's then that's see, that's what's so frustrating about the freaking liberals, man.
That's what's so freaking frustrating.
I got a couple of my camera.
I was like, oh, it's like, oh.
Cool.
Well, I figured out holler, bro.
It's good chatting with y'all, man.
Y'all are doing the Lord's work, guaranteed.
Bro, have a good one.
Thank you.
Thank you for the call.
Man.
But you know what I mean?
If it is by consent, that's why you're looking at the liberals.
That's why COVID was so freaking frustrating.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
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We won't ask, but Tony Ardeburn, a great American veteran, a great American, thank you for joining us tonight.
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And I'm deep within the Earth's surface, miles below the surface.
Oh, no, no, no.
Now the hollow earthers are going to be on my ass.
The hollow earthers are going to be crawling out of the comments now.
I've got spacecraft and unidentified animals.
It's going to be an interesting show.
I do believe that, though.
I want to handle some business first, though, because I'm genuinely curious.
How is the Wolfpack doing?
Are we growing?
I mean, when I get my shipment in the mail, I'm like, damn, I couldn't have done this alone.
It is growing.
Again, this is one of those ideas that people thought, wow, what a genius.
And it's not like that at all.
I decided I was going to make a membership program for people that if they wanted to pick up some of the product that I buy from the shop, you know, in-house, and I'm able to source that.
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I thought, well, I already had some people that were on automatic.
Why don't I make that a program?
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And now we have the wolfpack.gold gold microphone there on your magnificent program.
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I'm humbled because we have people that join, have a very low cancellation rate.
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So, I mean, a lot of your listeners are part of the Wolf Pack.
And it's just a way that you can set it and forget it.
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Right now, we're working on a bank account also.
And by the way, we do direct sales.
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Well, not to mention the flash sales that we get.
And the last one that came and went, it happened so fast I didn't even get a chance.
I think it was the Liberty Gold coin.
Yes, they go very quickly.
And we do get those flash sales.
And I made a promise that Wolfpack members always get first crack at that.
So something walks into the shop.
And I think since last time we spoke, when I officially opened my North Texas branch for Wise Wolf Gold and Silver, it's Wise Wolf Gold and Silver, Denison, Texas, right there on the open side.
Oh, it's officially.
Wait, wait, wait.
Did you just say it's officially open?
It's officially open.
Wise Wolf Gold and Silver, Denison, Texas.
Longest main street in Texas is there in Denison.
It's inside the Main Street Mall.
My mom owns a magnificent antique mall there.
And I was able to take a space out of there, get a profile.
It took me two or three months to haggle with Google to finally get it done.
But we're on Google Maps.
We have it done.
We have all the new signage.
I've got a giant buffalo, a mounted buffalo inside my.
Well, we may have to, we've helped decorate the Wolfpack Doc old headquarters in Branson, Missouri.
We may have to now put our contribution to the Dennison headquarters as well.
I hope so.
I welcome any listeners of yours to go up there.
We have product available that's there right on the spot.
And then we also have the ability for pickup, drop-off.
I made a second secure location because I don't know if your listeners know.
I used to be in San Antonio, and that's, I used to go up and see you at the InfoWars studio, and that was only about an hour or so drive.
And I moved in 2019, moved to Branson, Missouri.
And we have a great shop here right on the entrance of Branson and the Ozarks.
And that's been great.
But right now, Owen, what's going to define precious metals dealers in this coming era of de-dollarization is the ability to source product.
So I did that second location on purpose to get to get more product flowing in from the public itself because something your listeners may not know, wholesalers are drying up.
There's not a lot of great product out there.
I mean, I can still get, I mean, I obviously can fill orders, but it's not like it used to be.
Is that because people are hoarding or what?
Yes.
Well, it's a multi-pronged reason.
The first reason, if you look at gold, Owen, there is a massive amount of ordering from central banks.
Central banks around the world are dumping the dollar.
They're buying gold.
Last year was the highest record and rating of central banks buying gold since 1967.
I think will surpass 67 this year.
It's going to be, I think.
And this is all over the planet, too.
I mean, China's been like the number one international gold project.
Russia's been buying a bunch of gold.
Absolutely.
And, of course, Russia, once the sanctions were put on by Biden, you know, they called it Putin's price hike.
But really, those sanctions that Biden placed on Russia were really a sanction on the American people and against us having energy.
You know, he canceled the XL pipeline right off the bat, the Keystone Pipeline.
And following that, the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, which this government wanted, I believe, if you look at the history.
And they put those sanctions on, and that has really accelerated what's known as de-dollarization.
And this is something that the mainstream media is not really covering.
I don't know if they don't know, if they're just, this isn't a script yet that they've gotten from whatever intelligence headquarters Operation Mockingbird deals going on.
But I've got some facts and figures for you.
If you go back to 2001, 75% of all the transactions financially that went around the world were done in dollars.
So in 2001, I was 21 years old, that was 75% around the world done in dollars.
By the year 2021, it was 55%.
And since these sanctions put on Russia and Russia dumping the dollar, they actually called it candy wrappers.
They don't even accept dollars anymore.
It has gone to 47% and declining rapidly.
And this has to do with the BRICS nations, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
Saudi Arabia is coming on board.
60 other nations have put in applications to join BRICS, including Mexico.
So Brazil dumped the dollar for the Yuan.
This is going to accelerate faster.
Yeah, Argentina did too.
And the Chinese Yuan just beat the U.S. dollar in international transactions for the first time in recent history as well.
Absolutely.
These are the signposts on the road ahead.
This is a warning to everyone.
And you know, things, gold bugs have always been accused of being alarmist.
Oh, you guys, we never have hyperinflation.
We never have this because, you know, the dollar is strong and we're the world's reserve currency.
It's never going to happen.
Well, what happens when we're not the reserve currency of the world?
The Ponzi scheme comes to an end, and so we're watching 60 billion came out of banks last month, Owen.
People are withdrawing, they're putting it into other things.
Uh, some of those things are precious metals.
Um, but this isn't.
We look at you have normalcy bias, it's going to get us all in trouble because you're looking at what's happening with the central banks, what's happening with de-dollarization.
It's not going to be the same economy, it's not going to be the same banking system, and you can see the cracks in it already.
So, I'm concerned.
I think there's a lot of opportunity, but I'm very concerned that there's a lot of people that just don't get it.
They don't understand that when the dollar loses the status of the reserve currency, the devaluation will really go into overdrive.
And this is like, of course, not something we want to happen, but this is why you get an emergency food supply.
You don't want the economy to collapse and the grocery store to not have food on the shelves.
You want to be prepared in case it doesn't.
So, I mean, precious metals, I think, have always been the safest hedge against the dollar collapse, against currency collapse.
And I think history proves that.
And hey, I wish that cryptocurrency could be universally accepted as a transactional currency, but we're nowhere near that point.
No, we're nowhere near that.
And again, you know, you look at when a currency dies, um, it's a scramble to find value.
If you go back to the Weime Republic, Germany, 1929, after the Wall Street crash, there was, and that, you know, the war debts and all the pressure that was put on post-post-World War I Germany, they really had to scramble.
And people weren't just in gold and silver, they were trading anything that had value.
And you talked about storable food, but they were dealing in dollars, they were dealing in pounds sterling.
It was, it was a basket of currencies.
And so, you know, crypto will have a also will have a role in this, Bowen.
I mean, especially Bitcoin.
Bitcoin will have a role.
I would love to see it.
When I talk to, when I talk to people that are really into Bitcoin, and I see this more often, Austin is kind of a hub of this.
You know, I always say the same thing.
It's like, you know, but the ultimate goal, you know, because a lot of people have kind of had the get-rich quick thing, and that's great.
Everybody wishes for that.
That's why people play the lottery.
But I always say, you know, the ultimate goal isn't the ultimate goal not to measure one Bitcoin versus one dollar, but to say, where can I spend my Bitcoin?
Where can I, where can I purchase something with Bitcoin?
I mean, that to me should be the ultimate goal.
That is the goal.
And I think it's kind of like when value, like, well, people ask me all the time, is gold going to go up?
Well, here it is right here.
Here it is right here.
Just a month ago, China expands gold reserves at central bank for fifth straight months.
Yeah, they're also the largest producer of gold and gold mining in the world now.
Is Russia up there too?
Russia's way up there, but they've been Russia has been accumulating gold really since 2014 heavily after the coup d'etat of the Ukrainian government and all of that that went on in that timeframe with the Donbass and the Crimea.
And so I think what you're watching is Russia's also been liquidating some gold too because the gold price has been driven up because of de-dollarization.
So they're doing fine.
I mean, they pegged their ruble, you know, to so many grams of gold after the sanctions.
So you saw this big dip in their currency when they first invaded Ukraine, but they're back and they're fine.
They're doing strong.
They've made a lot of deals with China.
They're selling their crude, their oil on the open market to places like India, exchanging it for gold on the discount.
Wow, Russia's getting rid of the Euro too.
I'm seeing this.
Yes.
Yeah, the Euro is taking a hit as well.
So they're really, I mean, this is really a sign that China and Russia are making a massive, massive geopolitical shift right now.
And, you know, I was kind of hoping that they might give America another shot in 2024.
I don't think so.
I think they've given up on us.
No, they were driven away by our deep state.
It really is something never seen in this country before, Owen.
Look at the history of geopolitics.
I mean, Nixon and Henry Kissinger opened China in 1972.
And at the time, that was a shocking move because a lot of people on the right saw communism as one monolithic block.
But really, what was happening is the Soviet Union and the communist Chinese were actually having shooting wars on some of their old disputed borderlands that were seized by the czars, you know, back in the 18th century, 19th century.
And, of course, you know, China became a nuclear power in 1964.
So, opening China was a huge move.
And say what you will, that was meant to create alliances and end the Cold War.
You know, and by the end of Ronald Reagan's presidency, you know, he was walking shoulder to shoulder with Gorbachev in Red Square, invoking God and praying.
And, you know, the Cold War was coming to an end.
We don't have that same kind of diplomacy or big, big geopolitical thinking now.
That's the scary part.
There is no off-ramp of peace.
There's no negotiation.
No, I agree.
It's the American, the American political elite used to have at least, you know, like they wanted to live.
Like they wanted the ship to at least stay on the above the water.
Now it feels like they don't care or they want it to sink intentionally.
It's like they've just gone complete psychotic mad.
It does appear that way.
I mean, if anything suicidal, like stopping the stopping our energy, what asking Venezuela for oil?
What in the world?
What it is, of course, you know, Biden draining our strategic reserve instead of actually opening up more drilling and energy independence.
I mean, we live in crazy time.
The country, you know, I've said this before.
We're all building seven now, Owen.
I mean, it's a control demolition.
You know, that's what it is.
And you're, and most, and most people have no idea.
No, and it's happened.
The charges are set.
They're bringing it down.
And it's, you know, it's all coming from inside the house.
I mean, you can blame these other countries all you want, but we gave China the keys of the kingdom.
We gave them most favored trading status in 2001, 90 days after 9/11.
I mean, we've given them entrance into the WTO.
We have, we lost 55,000 factories under Bush in the first three years of his presidency.
So we've been, you know, hollowing out our republic and what made us great for decades now.
They don't make any mistakes, Owen.
They're not making any mistakes on taking the country into a third-rate power.
So, I mean, I just tell people you can't stop the changes that are coming.
That's the big thing.
If you don't take anything else away from our talk tonight, and this is where my wheelhouse and what I study is de-dollarization.
Go key it in.
Go look it up.
Go look up de-dollarization.
Find out what that means.
And it's used.
We've never seen that before.
We've never, we have not seen because we grew up, and this is post-World War II.
You know, the IMF was born out of Breton Woods in 1944.
You know, they had the World Bank.
All of that was born out of Breton Woods, and gold was pegged at $35 an ounce.
And the world decided that we were going to use the dollar as the world's reserve currency.
And that lasted until 1971 when Nixon took us off the gold standard.
We've been floating ever since.
And it isn't talked about in the mainstream.
So, you know, and it's a long story, but that's why you have all these financial products.
It's why you have 401ks and IRAs and investments because you can't save your dollars anymore because they're constantly losing value.
And what happens when we lose the participation of a big part of the globe, which we already have?
You know, that's why our economy is suffering so much.
It's kind of the hidden tax is inflation and de-dollarization.
As you're talking, we're going through these news headlines.
A lot of these are recent.
Now, Bloomberg is trying to discount this.
It's funny because they all admit now Dollar hegemony is beneficial for the United States.
No kidding.
But it's like they don't explain that to us.
Why are they explaining it to us now when it's all about to fall out?
It's like, it's not, it's like, hey, by the way, what Biden is doing, what our government is doing, what Congress is doing is causing a de-dollar dollarization right now.
But, oh, no, no, no, no, no, they don't see any of that.
It's like, oh, don't worry.
You don't even know what de-dollarization is, but it's not happening.
Well, there's another aspect of this.
In the 1960s, there was an economist named Robert Triffin.
And there's something known as Triffin's dilemma.
Triffin testified before Congress in the 60s, right, leading up to 1967.
And that's when there was that big order from central banks to get away from the dollar back then.
And the question asked was: when you're the world's reserve currency, you have to stock all these central banks with dollars.
And of course, the dollar has to have some sort of intrinsic value, has to be backed by something.
Well, the question is: what happens if those dollars come home?
So you're talking about untold trillions that could be repatriated into our economy because the world dumps it.
What do you do then?
So it's not just our Federal Reserve that's not federal and not a reserve.
It's not just that private central bank creating trillions of dollars and devaluing.
It would be the rest of the world dumping it back on us.
And that is a real problem.
So that's why finding value is really important right now.
And I want to implore people to not listen to me.
Go and look this up for yourself and you decide what you think the future is going to look like when the dollar is not the dominant currency.
It's going to affect your life.
I think people are starting to realize it.
But since you throw that back into the equation, also, if we're not producing anything, you're going to have inflation and you're going to have an issue where the prices are just going to keep going up too.
Correct.
You have both.
Especially in the energy area where we're just not producing enough energy and they want to shut it down and they want to price us out of the energy because, you know, we're killing the planet.
Right.
It's the watermelon, the green on the outside, communist red on the inside.
That's what the green plant is all about.
They are the watermelons.
They are the watermelon.
And I look at what I mean, all of the globalist policies that are being thrust upon us for us to, you know, you get these electric cars, nothing wrong with an EV, but the problem is you don't have a grid to support it.
You know, I mean, that great exchange between Pete Buttigedge, you know, Rhodes Scholar man, the transportation secretary, talking to Thomas Massey in Congress.
And Thomas Massey said, you know, it takes, it's going to take at least, you know, the power of having 25 refrigerators in each home to charge these electric vehicles.
You've done nothing with the power grid.
How do you expect to have everyone buy an electric car if there's no grid?
And I think the answer is they don't want you to go anywhere.
They don't want you to have energy independence.
They don't want an economy.
They don't want to be competitive.
They're shutting off, they're making it illegal in new construction in New York to put a gas line into the house.
Like, I don't think people realize how crazy that is.
Like, they don't even realize you're not, you don't have a direct gas line into your house.
I mean, you're not going to get heat in the winter.
They're going to shut you off.
Right.
I mean, literally, you know, this all that talk about gas grills and can't have that.
Then you can, you know, you can't have a fireplace.
Yeah, they won't even let you have a fireplace.
You're supposed to freeze to death, damn it.
I mean, they're doing that to Europe.
I mean, look at the Nord Stream pipeline that, I mean, Seymour Hirsch, I mean, that investigative journalism.
Thank God we still have a few journalists left, right?
Yeah, and some activists, some activists and liberal activists, thank God, too, that are going and confronting the media and ignoring it.
Right.
And that was clearly, I mean, we've got some psychopaths, some anti-American leaders.
These people are globalists.
They're trilateral commission, council on foreign relations, lackeys, Luciferians, whatever you want to call them.
And the calls are coming from inside the house.
I mean, it's not going to get better anytime soon until the people realize what's being done.
I mean, our politics are so skewed right now.
And this should be at the forefront.
You know, whatever presidential election's going, whoever's running ought to be talking about de-dollarization, how to stop it.
They ought to be talking about how to stop the central bank digital currency.
We just don't hear a lot about that.
I don't know.
I don't know if Trump really brings that into the conversation.
I think that that would be a strong argument for Trump to bring to the conversation.
He would probably be the superior knowledged and experienced voice on that.
But I think the odds are, you know, it seems to me like Vivaik brings the real topics to the fore better than even Trump.
Trump is a little more reactionary on stuff, I think, now, whereas he used to be forward thinking.
He used to bring the topics to the discussion table.
Now he seems to respond more, where Vivaik is now the one kind of bringing the subject table, the subject matter to the table that we need to be digesting.
I don't know if you're familiar.
I don't know how often you're following the politics.
I know you're like Goldfinger for gold and precious metals and the economy.
You're like a bond villain watching the economy and gold every day over here.
I know you are in your hollow earth cave.
But no, are you paying attention at all to the presidential race?
Somewhat.
It's, you know, after 2020, I've really kind of looked at the politics of local and the politics of just really about the politics of movement and ideas, kind of the same thing that you do, you know, with your programs and your activism.
It's really just about the ideas.
So, yeah, I mean, I probably will pay more attention as it accelerates and gets closer to 2024.
But right now, I just, I don't, I don't hear the big issues.
The big issues to me are de-dollarization, central bank digital currency, energy independence, turning the engine back on.
I mean, we have, this country is a great country.
We have wonderful workers, wonderful entrepreneurs.
And resources.
We got resources.
Massive resources, massive opportunity.
We're not done, you know, but our leaders, again, it's kind of hard not to be a conspiracy theorist because I'm a proud conspiracy analyst.
But it's really hard to not look at this and think, wow, we're just living inside of a plan.
I mean, because you have to work hard to be this bad.
Well, yeah, I mean, just I think here's what's becoming obvious now to people that aren't analytical.
You know, if you talk about being a conspiracy analyst, I think what's becoming obvious to those that aren't analytical is the blatant double standards, right?
And even a dog, folks, they've done studies.
Basic dogs, animals understand a double standard.
Like if you give one dog more to eat than the other, like they see that they understand that.
So, I mean, if a dog gets that, eventually the humans are waking up to that too.
So I think really what's happening is just the basic double standards.
I mean, the attacks against Trump, the political persecution against Trump, the social media censorship.
I think that the double standards are just becoming so obvious now to the average American, like even it would for a dog, that they're starting to think and become analytical.
Why is there a double standard?
Why do they hate Trump so much?
Well, it's funny, as you said that, Owen, I'm on the couch at the wisewolfgoldandsilver.com studios next to my dog Beans.
She's up here on the couch, but she's nodding her head in agreement.
She totally agrees that she would be able to tell and can tell the difference, even though she, I mean, listens to my show.
That's a smart dog.
Very smart dog.
But yeah, I agree with you.
People are waking up.
And I don't mean at all to be doom and gloom.
I don't ever really get accused of that, but I want to bring it.
These are serious subjects.
And I really feel blessed.
I feel like I'm in the right business at the right time.
I got the right relationships with people like you.
Just means so much that I get to come on your show and that you're in my phone and I can talk to you and share ideas with you.
We have a great network.
We're in the right business.
We're where God wants us to be, in my opinion.
And I say that without arrogance.
I just think I'm where I'm supposed to be.
And that's really just helping people understand the history of money, the monetary system, the scam that is the fiat currency system that is, I think, really coming to an end.
That's worldwide.
I think that's why a lot of these countries, including the BRICS nations, they want to put together a currency that's backed by something.
The United States could come roaring back if it decided that it wanted to back its currency up and do some sort of reset fiscally, but you never hear about that anymore.
What happened to all the fiscal hawks?
Remember when we were growing up, there were people trying to cut the budget and stop, you know, stop the deficit?
You don't hear that anymore.
It's just, they're just running out the clock.
Well, and I, you know, there's a, I don't know how it gets phrased.
And I admit I am this person.
It's like I'm a communistist.
Like I'm a communistist.
Like, you know, intellectual, intellectual leftists and like classical liberals kind of have this Joker where it's like, oh, you're like, you're the red scare.
Like you buy into all this fear mongering about communism.
I'm proud of that.
I despise communism.
I hate big government.
I don't want anything to do with it.
But what I think, what I think the American people have not fully understood, and I think there's a lot of reasons for this.
One, we don't really leave our country much.
Amongst the civilized world, Americans leave their country less than any other country.
And granted, since we are a bit of a waterlocked country with just two border countries, so there's plenty of different reasons for that, but we just don't leave the country enough.
So we're supposed to have a worldview or a perception of the world from not even having firsthand experience.
And myself included in that, I think I've only been to like four different countries.
So what I think I'm starting to learn as I grow and I study more is that really most of the crazed people are truly in the West.
That's not to say that the Chinese communists don't have their problems and the Russian oligarchs and everything else, but I'm starting to realize that truly the Western elite have just an absolute hatred towards their people.
And I mean, I don't know if that's really represented anywhere else.
Again, I'm not promoting the Chinese communists, but I'm beginning to wonder, like, hey, you know, I don't agree with the idea of communism, but do they really believe it?
Do they really believe it's better for their people?
Like, do they, are they so racist against other groups?
Are they so hegemonic because they really believe that's for their people?
Whereas our leaders actually hate us.
Yes, they despise us.
You go back to the Clinton administration, Secretary of State Strobe Talbot, which was Bill Clinton's roommate at one time when he was in college.
He said that this is the Secretary of State.
He said that the nation state was irrelevant.
These are, I mean, we have globalist plants inside every aspect of government at the highest levels that don't believe in nation states, Owen.
No, they don't.
That's so that's what's so crazy, too, is people have to understand the philosophy here.
They don't operate intellectually as the same plane as us.
They believe that they have transcended the idea of a nation state.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, they feel like the nation states irrelevant.
You hear the words manage decline, right?
Manage, like they've given up on the United States of America.
And I could take you to me.
If we had a longer show, I could take you on a crash course timeline of when that started, when they decided to, that the United States was going to be a second rate power.
And you can look back, you know, after we went off the gold standard, the birth of the trilateral commission in 73, not running any more trade surpluses, only running trade deficits.
We siphoned off the country.
We pawned America's soul.
We used to make things.
We used to build things.
Now we don't.
Not really.
Not like we used to.
We have massive trade deficits.
I was laughed at when I ran for Congress in 2013 that I said we'd reach a trillion-dollar trade deficit annually.
Guess what?
We reached it.
You know, I mean, not annually.
Annually.
That's the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind, except for one time.
And that was when we started transferring the wealth from the middle class directly to the billionaires.
And that happened in COVID-19.
And that's when all the bailouts started to happen.
All of the PPP money, all of that, the trillions last three years, Owen.
So that's a massive transfer, bigger than free trade.
But they both go together.
So, I mean, what does the future look like when the United States, and this is interesting, this is the same question that was asked on that first commercial that was run by the World Economic Forum when they said you'll own nothing and you'll be happy?
The first thing they say in that little ad, and I remember covering this on my radio show long before 2020, and it said, imagine a world where the United States is not the lone superpower.
And their goal was 2030.
So they're running towards a goal.
They have a plan, you know.
And look at how it's a perfect, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
They promote the idea of anti-Americanism.
They take the crimes that they've committed and projected onto the American people or the values or the principles or the founding fathers, and they use that as propaganda to say, you should hate America.
And then when we tell them to cheer on their own demise, they'll totally buy into it thinking they're some sort of a social justice warrior.
And now that's exactly what we're witnessing, just like we were warned by the KGB defector, I believe.
I forget his name.
I always forget his name, but the Russian in that famous interview, he laid it all out and he said, and you watch, this will happen exactly as I'm saying it.
You will witness it and the people still won't believe it.
It's happening before our eyes and it's accelerating.
I mean, you're just, I mean, we are, we are in the thick of things.
Again, but not doom and gloom.
Yeah, Yuri, Yuri Besmanov, I think was his name?
Yes, yes.
I kept, every time somebody says that, I always think of Solja Nitson first.
I don't know why.
My mind just locks down on that.
But yeah, it was Yuri Besmanov.
Yeah, he was a Russian journalist that warned us all.
One of the most famous video clips ever from the 80s.
I'm going to find that.
Well, let me just.
Yeah, go ahead.
Quick, just a little bit of history.
There was the Russian propaganda minister, the Soviet propaganda minister, said after the fall of the Soviet Union, it was very poignant and it makes a lot of sense now.
Because you remember that, you know, I'm a little older than you, but, you know, during the 80s, it was, you know, you had morning in America.
It was Ronald Reagan.
And, you know, the philosophy was in the Cold War, we win, they lose.
And we reached the end of the Cold War.
Of course, Reagan, you know, he wasn't a psychopath.
I mean, he wanted zero nuclear weapons.
He wanted to have a complete dismantling of all nuclear arms across the world.
So this isn't like somebody who was a doomsdayer.
But there was something that the Soviet propaganda minister said.
He said, we've done something far worse to you than beat you.
We've taken away your enemy and now you're lost.
So something interesting that happened to us after the fall of the Soviet Union.
And now we, like the Soviet Union, are overextended.
The debts piled on.
We haven't made alliances, true alliances.
And so we are lost.
And I think this is going to be the end of the American empire.
And what happens after that is anybody's guess, but it's not going to be like yesterday.
You know, I will say this in closing because you brought this up earlier when you talked about just that comfort of knowing you're in the right place when you're truly connected to God, when you're truly connected to the creator and seeking that out.
And when we first talked about this, when we first talked about Wolfpack.gold and having Wolfpack.gold microphone, we were both talking about how, you know, we kind of feel like the stars are really aligning right now for people that put themselves in the right position at the right time, that God is going to light a pathway for you.
And if you're seeking that out, then you'll find it.
And it doesn't mean you might not take a missed step, but you'll at least have an idea of where you're supposed to be, where you're supposed to go.
And when we first talked about that with Wolfpack.gold, we both kind of felt the same way.
And so here I am on episode 23.
That was in January.
It's now May.
And I'm assuming on your end that you still feel that you're on the right path and that God is guiding you.
Yes, humbly, I do believe that.
And I feel like everything that I've done in my life is leading me up to doing what I'm doing now.
And some of the things that God has allowed me to see and survive.
And I'll tell you about a little story about being in Iraq at the tail end of the invasion there.
The first thing that we were asked to do is go to the bank because people were making a run on the bank.
All those Iraqi dinar with Saddam Hussein's picture on them.
People were trying to get them out of the bank.
But the problem was nobody wanted them.
So these people were walking out with boxes full of their currency and the currency died in one day.
So, I got to see what happens in real life in real time when a currency dies.
And I didn't really fully understand it until later in life.
And, you know, people were dealing in dollars there.
And so, that's the power of the world's reserve currency.
That's going away.
And what will that mean to us and our purchasing power and our economic health?
It's not good.
But it's no, and it's the standard of living that we've been so used to and many times probably taken for granted is seriously in threat right now.
I mean, we've already taken a major hit.
Yes.
Major hit.
The hits are coming.
It really is.
The accelerator is on.
And I think right now it's the time for us to reflect and study and build alliances and support programs like this so we can keep the information flowing.
We're going to need the best information possible to make good decisions.
Well, next time, next time you're on, I'm actually going to dig into this story because this just sounds like an awesome story of your experience at the fall of the bankings, the banking systems in Iraq, because that just sounds like one I want to get walked through.
I can tell you all about it, Owen.
We could talk about that anytime.
I want to hear that story.
So that so the next time you come on here as a guest, that's going to be, I'm probably going to, unless I forget, there's a chance I could forget.
You know, I tend to forget things sometime with the overload of information, but I think I'll remember.
I want to hear that story.
I think the audience is going to hear that story too.
Well, it'll be my pleasure.
Anytime you'd like to have me on, it's an honor to sponsor you, honor to be your friend.
And anything you ever need, you know, I'm here.
Well, I love that, brother.
And folks, I'm telling you, Wolfpack.gold, this is for all of us.
This is not something that Tony built for himself.
He built this for all of us.
And so let's take advantage of it, Wolfpack.gold.
And before I let you go, do let people know where they can find your transmissions as well.
Sure.
You can find all of my shows are on my website, arterburn.news.
That's mylastname.news.
And there should be links there to wise wolf, gold, and silver.
You can go to wisewolf.gold, and there's, you can just look it up on the internet.
There's also Wolfpack as a separate site.
So they all go together.
They all flow together.
All right.
I will let you get back to your hollow earth activities.
Thank you.
Have a great show, brother.
All right, night, brother.
All right, here's what we're going to do.
We're keeping up with your comments in the chat here, but here's what we're going to do.
We're going to just put the phone number back out here, and we'll take two more calls.
We're going to take two more calls tonight: 747-200-5560.
I do have the latest shipment if you're a part of the pack.
The coins that they send out are pretty sweet.
But I kind of have a thing with collecting coins because my grandfather was a world traveler.
He was in the Navy, but he was a world traveler and he was a massive coin collector.
And whenever I would go visit him, I remember in the first house I remember that he lived in with my grandma in his basement.
It's kind of this old tathered basement.
And he had just a massive coin collection.
He'd take out this massive bag, massive bags of coin, and I would just rifle through them.
And they'd be from all over the world, every different kind, different colors.
And so I kind of just, I don't know if it's like it reminds me of my grandpa or just because it was just a good memory and going through the coin collections that now I think coins are cool and just all the different countries and the different designs that come on them.
But you get like there were some coins that, if you remember, Wolfpack, over 100 years old that I've seen before.
And then some are just brand new.
So, but you don't have to talk about that if you don't like to.
You can call in on anything.
People will give me a hard time because I still haven't played Pokemon Live.
Maybe I'll just do that then instead.
Maybe we'll just fire up a Pokemon game and I'll just start it.
No, but I did do it actually one time already.
I just never did it again.
Look, you people are you demand political news coverage from me.
That's what you want.
So I give the people what they want.
Simple as that.
Simple as that.
Here we go.
What's your name?
Where you're from?
My name is Trenton.
I'm from Canada.
Trenton.
All right.
We're going international now.
Yeah.
What's up, man?
I just want to call.
I just want to.
Here we go.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Colvish.
You're going to need to turn the Rumble feed down.
Awesome, man.
What's up, man?
Well, I just wanted to say how much I like the work that you're doing and how much of an inspiration you are.
Because I've watched info feedback.
Oh, for sure.
I'll just take care of that right now here.
All right, Trenton.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
All right.
We're talking now.
I appreciate those kind words.
Go ahead.
Oh, I had the funniest story because I was an info warrior.
I watched probably in the early before 2006 to 2009, and it really woke me up.
Well, you're a little head of the pack.
You're a little head of most people, huh?
Yeah.
And I was also an old school liberal.
I used to watch Justin Trudeau back in those days.
And slowly enough, I had such a faith in him because I'd seen all these speeches.
He gave what used to give all this talk about how he was going to do this proportional representation.
And hearing the words in 2015, when he said, No, I'm not going to do this because I changed my mind.
I felt like a piece of me died.
And so when the pandemic came out, I kept losing more.
I'm like, no, I start tuning into Alex Jones.
And I was really glad to hear that when Alex Jones says, I'm not so much into Steve's potentially anymore.
And I've gotten more and more into Alex Jones.
I've been more like, wow, like, this is the truth.
I got some Alex Jones for president shirts.
Oh, nice.
You ever wear one out?
Oh, I have.
And it's and it's the truth.
It's been an adventure every time I've worn one.
Mostly love, mostly hate.
It just seems to make the day flow in a really special way.
Always love.
Always love it.
Always brings out the awesomest journeys.
Well, Alex tends to invoke a reaction.
No doubt about that.
Yeah, it's just like if I wear one of those shirts, it's a good luck charm.
The day goes really awesome.
A good luck charm.
I've not heard that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So can I say that we our shirts have been known to be a good luck charm?
You can say they're known to be a good luck charm.
There it is.
There it is.
The Alex Jones for President Limited Edition, InfoWarshore.com.
You heard it right here.
It's a good luck charm.
Maybe you, you know, maybe you meet the love of your life.
I believe I will.
Well, we can all cheer for that.
I will have to say, though, on the love of my life, it's a hard story, but I met her 2019.
I knew in the first five minutes of meeting her, like, I wanted to marry her.
She said the same words.
This is the tragedy of the story: I know her name as Shona Bones.
She knows me as Trenton Ratzloff.
And we're going to spend our lives together.
But her dad came and took her away from me.
And she was a mental and threw her in a mental institution.
And I never seen her again.
And if there's a way to reunite with her, I would love to do that.
It's kind of an extreme story, but I just put it, I just put it out there.
And I might find somebody else, but I've never felt like I've ever wanted to marry someone and meet someone, you spend you spend like a few days with them, and then you never see him again.
You're kind of like, it's a huge thing.
All right.
I mean, I got on the side of freedom, brother.
And I love you.
I love what you're doing.
And to be honest, I've had a really crazy near-death experience a long time ago, and I got pulled back from a fallen tree.
And I just have faith in the divinity and what's happening.
And what you're saying will be in the right place at the right time and keep following these steps.
There's God in this world, man.
And God is so for, and God is so for real.
And I trust everything that is happening.
Trent, you, I, I love you, Trenton.
And and and love, God will provide the love that you are seeking.
Maybe it's with the one you referred earlier.
Maybe it's somebody new.
All right, last caller of the night, guys.
That was, I mean, look, I've talked about doing a dating show.
You know, you get a little hint of it there.
All right, final caller of the night.
What's your name?
Where you from?
Hey, Owen, it's Odin.
Odin.
Oh, that was a great last segment there.
The later you get into the night, you know, oh, yeah, the stranger, the stranger it gets.
Hey, I still, the AI thing is creeping me out.
Like, makes me panic.
Wait, are you mean the AI in the news, or like that weird AI caller that we had?
There was a call.
Yeah, that's probably a caller right there.
So, yeah, just in general, in the news and everything, like in everything I do for research, and it's just scary.
And like, a lot of people are like blind to it.
This is blowing up in the chats right now.
I could be connecting people online right now.
There's single women in the chats, there's single men in the chats.
They're looking for your pure bloods.
They're looking for people that know how the world works.
I could be doing this right now.
It sounds like you may already be taken care of, so it might not be for you.
Not for me.
You got the big, beautiful beard, though, man.
You probably get them all.
Well, I don't want to be selfish now.
No, all right, man.
No, I'm afraid no woman has ever had what it takes to entertain me.
Quite a challenge, though.
All right, that is going to do it.
You guys liked that.
You guys got into it a little bit.
You guys kind of like the love connection angle.
Just be honest.
It's okay.
Everybody loves a love connection.
Just accept it.
It's perfectly normal.
It is the ultimate human experience.
Is it not?
Nothing else quite like it.
But that's why we love life so much.
It's why we're trying to preserve it.
So there you go.
All right.
Guys, do me a favor.
If you're tuned in on Rumble, hit the follow button somewhere.
Hit the follow button and share this.
I'm just trying to build this channel from scratch, trying to get it back to where my YouTube channel was with all the subscribers and all the fun we used to have on the live streams.
And so glad this is here.
Remember, live tomorrow, band.video, live weekdays, 3 to 6 p.m. band.video.
Already know there's going to be great stuff going on and great guests.
So we will see you then.
Good night.
Can you lost in the dark?
Can be alive.
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