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OSL 21 - Can We Still Support Law Enforcement When It's Weaponized Against Us?
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And this is something that I experienced recently.
And this is something I imagine that we're all going to experience.
And perhaps I'm, you know, it's always InfoWars the Canary in the coal mine.
And so perhaps this is just another example of me going through something that everybody will eventually go through, but this is a little a little more innocent.
Not like the political persecution and such.
But the basic question would be, how do you...
How do you support law enforcement that has been weaponized against you?
Or can you support law enforcement that's been weaponized against you?
And I'm going to answer that question first, and then we'll see if people want to call in on it.
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Now, can we support law enforcement that has been weaponized against us?
Can we support law enforcement that's been weaponized against us?
And this is such a conflicting question, specifically for conservatives, because we are the ones that law enforcement is being weaponized Against, and we are also the ones that have supported law enforcement throughout the years,
specifically with the recent trend of defund the police, all cops are bad, and all the rioting in response to all the propaganda on the mainstream news and the Democrat Party platform.
So we're now at this point where there's blatant political corruption.
There's a blatant double standard when it comes to the law and common sense and rationale and basic human decency, integrity, honesty, are all thrown out the window when we're dealing with this political persecution.
So what do conservatives do who have to deal with this, but also traditionally who support law enforcement.
And while there's different levels of this, the reason why I bring this conversation up now is because I believe that it's not just going to be the political persecution that more and more conservatives are going to be dealing with.
you're going to start getting harassed by local law enforcement, specifically if you're in a blue city.
Specifically, if you're in a blue city like Austin, Texas, which right now is kind of a leading example for a bunch of different tactics that Democrats want to take nationwide, and a bunch of Democrat Party platform, which is really just World Economic Forum propaganda policy being implemented and tested in Democrat cities like Austin, where it is.
So we've seen the defund of the police effort.
We've seen what that's done.
We've seen what all of these George Soros district attorneys and prosecuting attorneys and judges have done to Democrat cities.
And just generally speaking, if you look at what has happened to major American cities since the Democrats have gotten control of them, you start to get the idea.
So now you're at the phase where defund the police is really starting to hit home in some of these Democrat cities.
And also just the police having a target put on their back by the Democrat Party and by the mainstream media and by American leftists and liberals that hate the police so much.
Police are quitting, they're losing their jobs, they're retiring, they're trying to get a job in a district that's red and not blue.
And so this is leading to a mass shift in criminal justice and in the justice system in major metropolitan areas.
So in Austin, as the example that I'll give, because I live here and I'm seeing it firsthand, and it will be used in other Democrat-run cities very shortly, like Portland, where it already is, and a few others, like Seattle, maybe, where the police in Austin, Texas have basically been whittled down to nothing.
They have basically been completely defunded.
And for the last two years or so, have basically been non-existent.
So you just don't see police.
You don't see police pulling people over.
And you also don't see police really doing anything about criminals.
And so I could point to a bunch of different examples.
I've got multiple assault pending assault charges where I'm I'm charging someone with assault that assaulted me on camera, multiple eyewitnesses, including police eyewitnesses.
These are years old, can't get out of pending.
Nothing's gonna happen.
I've had multiple credible death threats made against me with the with the video evidence, photo evidence.
In one case, I was able to even get the license plate number of the deranged lunatic.
Nothing.
Zero zilch, nada.
I was in a hit and run.
Somebody hit me and left the scene.
I called police.
They said, nope, don't follow him.
Let him go.
Call 311, file a report.
Nothing has been done about that.
So these are just a few examples.
But you know what?
I'm for I'm for fair, I'm for fair play.
So if it's gonna be Mad Max, then fine.
Okay, I'm gonna have to put up with some BS in the streets, and I'm gonna have to learn how to adjust.
But you know what?
I'm not gonna get pulled over going 90 in a 75.
God forbid.
Owen Schreuer speeds a little bit.
I'm not, but but you know what?
Okay, maybe, maybe, maybe that's one thing.
How about I'm not gonna get pulled over for having an expired registration on my windshield by one month, which happened to me recently.
Well, yeah.
I have a sticker on my windshield, which is already stupid enough.
How many different government tags have to be on my vehicle?
I have the stupid little sticker on my windshield, but it's a month out of date.
And now I'm gonna get pulled over multiple times, and then I'm gonna get harassed because my license is expired, or it's actually expiring.
Not expired yet, but you know, I'm gonna get harassed.
I'm gonna get harassed because my last month my registration expired.
Have you tried to get a have you have you tried to get an appointment at the DMV?
It takes two months in Austin.
Two months.
I don't know if it's like that everywhere.
Two months.
Not like go sit.
It was so bad.
Like go sit at the DMV for five hours and hope you get in.
No, no, no, no.
They gave up.
Now you have to get an appointment months in advance.
Okay, so anyway, what's the point?
I I you're getting pulled over.
I'm getting pulled over.
This is what happened to me.
This is gonna happen in all major American cities.
You're gonna get pulled over for little bullshit charges, like an expired registration tag on your windshield, a stupid sticker.
If you really want me to have the updated sticker, why don't you just mail it to me?
Okay.
How about that?
Just go ahead and mail that to me and I'll replace it.
But no, no, no.
Now I've got to spend hours of my day trying to get a stupid sticker because the police are gonna pull me over and fine me every time I don't get it.
Oh, but if I get assaulted or I get death threaded or somebody hit and runs me, nothing will be done about that.
We can't be bothered to do anything about that.
But you're gonna get pulled over because your sticker is a month out of date, and you're gonna get a ticket for every time you get pulled over now because your sticker's out of date and your license expired, even though, even though you can't even get an appointment at the DMV, and they just doubled your property taxes in Texas, so you're broke, and you can't afford the new registration tag.
But uh, here you go.
Uh, hope those people that death threat you and hope those people that assault you and hope those people that hit and run you have a nice day.
But fuck you.
You with the expired license plate, you with the expired registration, you at the expired driver's license.
You that had a cocktail going home from work and drove home.
Fuck you.
Oh, oh, you the violent criminal that shot someone last night?
Yeah, you're out of jail.
Oh.
You the carjacker, you the mugger, you the rapist, you the kitty diddler.
We're gonna take it easy on you.
Oh, yeah, you assaulted a ton of people.
Oh, yeah, you insulted someone at a political event.
You're good to go.
You're fine.
Don't worry about that.
No trouble for you.
Oh, but oh geez.
Did you just run a red light?
Two in the morning, nobody around happen to be a cop over the on the corner, you ran that red light.
Fuck you, buddy.
We're getting your ass.
So just get ready for that.
Because that's coming to a city near you, specifically in if you're in a blue Democrat-run city.
Then it's that that will be your reality probably by the end of the year.
You're gonna start hearing more about stories like this, or it's going to be you.
So how do you still support law enforcement when it's been weaponized against us?
Now, again, that's just the low-level bullshit that everyone's gonna have to go through within the next two years.
When it comes to political persecution like the IRS coming after you, or the Democrat Party in Congress coming after you, or the FBI coming after you, yeah, that that's the bigger issue.
That's the larger issue, but that's gonna be rarer, at least for the near future.
You're gonna maybe have friends and family that go through that, but for people that aren't politically active or involved, that that that's not going to be a thing to them.
That's not going to be a thing to them.
But to those people, they'll notice the crime around them.
They'll notice that law enforcement doesn't do anything about crime but harasses them about an expired license plate registration tag.
So how can conservatives who support law enforcement still support law enforcement when it's been weaponized against us?
And the truth is that we can't.
We can't.
However, we can if there's a solution.
And you know there actually is a solution, and the problem is it's so easy and it's so obvious, it's never going to be done.
Or maybe it will be.
But here's the solution, and this is the real solution.
This is the real solution that conservatives should embrace, and that the Republican Party should embrace.
They won't.
They won't, but this is what this is what needs to happen, and this is what Republicans should embrace, seeing how the political persecution is run.
You have to start completely shutting down federal bureaucracies.
Like the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA immediately.
And I wouldn't even say to shut them down, but I would definitely have a very swift and structured dismantling of the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA right out of the gates.
Then you have a very structured and well-laid out plan to take the good agents from those bureaucracies, and you expand local law enforcement practices and capabilities so that they're better served to protect their local communities.
Because that's the problem with centralization, specifically in law enforcement.
It allows something like the FBI and the CIA and other such things to become so corrupt but so untouchable because it's such a centralized group over such a massive body.
But when you have localized law enforcement, it's a lot harder to corrupt.
It's a lot harder to corrupt for a long period of time, and it's a lot easier to figure out and locate and get the corruption out.
So that's what you do.
You embrace and mimic.
Now, this is like next level stuff.
You embrace and mimic what President Buchele has done in El Salvador, and you do that here with the real criminals, the traffickers, the pushers.
And then if you really want to save law enforcement and justice in this country, you start some form of a new church commission to suss out any members of Congress or the executive branch of the government,
or hell, if any of the three land of any of the branches of the government that have taken money from foreign countries or made massive gains in the stock market while they were in office.
So that's how you could really solve everything.
But at least at the first level, we have to answer the question.
How can conservatives still support law enforcement when it's weaponized against them?
And there has to be a proposed solution to the problem.
It needs to come from the Republican Party.
It won't.
So it has to come from the community.
It has to come from the culture.
It has to come from people like me that have a voice to put it out there so that we can digest it and and make it and manifest it in the future.
But the Republican Party sadly would never be as innovative and creative and smart as I am.
But hey, they got Ronald McDaniel running things.
So I'm sure everything is going great.
No, but it's funny because Ronald McDaniel says that the Democrat Party have made it a crime to be a Republican, to which I would ask, well, then why haven't you been arrested?
Hmm.
Hmm.
So that's how conservatives can still support law enforcement, even though it's been weaponized against us.
We have to propose a real solution.
First, we have to accept it for what it is, understand how serious it is, and then propose a real solution.
Because here's the problem.
We could just say, okay, yeah, fuck the police.
We could just, we could just go along with the left and just give them that.
We could just give them what they want on that.
We can just give them that victory.
Oh, okay, defund the police.
All cops are bad, shut them all down.
We can just embrace the leftist on that issue.
The problem is that's a trap.
Because then what you're going to have is a bunch of looney tunes land police officers that are literally just trannies and flamboyant gay people that they put as law enforcement just to insult you and say, see, or like you won't be able to be straight.
You won't be able to be white.
You won't be able to be Christian.
Like any of those things, you're not in law enforcement.
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
You got to be trans, you got to be gay, you got to be black, and you and you gotta be liberal.
You gotta be progressive.
You gotta be a lefty.
And so you'll have a bunch of loony tunes running around with all different kinds of motives to become the new law enforcement, the citizen law enforcement like Obama talked about.
So that's like a chess move.
Like somebody'll like a chess player will make good chess players will make a move, baiting their opponent into making another move, baiting their opponent into making move, thinking, oh, this is great.
If I make this move, I'm gonna be in a position for checkmate, or I'm gonna be in a position for check.
And then they make the move, and then, oh, he just slides this other piece over, and now you're in checkmate.
And you thought you were the genius, like, oh, I'm gonna make check here.
Oh, oh, oh, and then oh, nope, you're in checkmate.
So, sure, we could say, you know what?
Law enforcement's been weaponized against us, totally weaponized against us.
Law enforcement now harasses the law abiding citizens.
Law abiding citizens get harassed worse than criminals, treated worse than criminals.
So, yeah, you know what?
F the police.
Defund them, shut them down.
I'm sick of being harassed.
I'm sick of the lawlessness, forget about it.
But then here comes Rachel Levine with a Billy Club.
Here comes here comes special detective Jeffrey Marsh.
Yes.
Yes, darling.
Jeffrey Mush is here with his handcuffs.
So that's how that's gonna go.
And then, and then you're just in a completely different realm of insanity at that point.
So that's the solution.
In the meantime, you know, I don't know.
I I'd say we have to be patient, but I mean, how long are people going to be able to put up with this?
Because again, I'm telling you, it's coming to a city near you if it's not already there.
Total lawlessness, total criminality, but you're still getting harassed over tiny little bullshit, ticky tack registration tags, license plate updates, driver's license out of date, running a red light at 2 a.m., going 15 over the speed limit on a highway.
But then everything else is basically Mad Max Thunderdome.
So now you're motivated to be a criminal.
Now you're motivated to not be a law-abiding citizen because what is the point?
And that's when society breaks down.
That's why we're seeing the breakdown right now.
But it's gonna get tough.
And uh law enforcement is gonna learn real quick, maybe like uh the Bud Light executives.
No, I think I think law enforcement is gonna find out real quick.
I mean, most of them are conservatives, so they may already get it, but they're gonna find out real quick.
They're gonna lose, they're gonna lose the conservative support, they're gonna lose the Republican voter support.
They're gonna lose it.
Every day that goes by when conservatives continue to get politically persecuted, every day that goes by when criminals continue to get let out on the streets, every day that goes by when law-abiding citizens get harassed over Tiki Tac bullshit and their taxes continue to go up every day.
That Republican voter, that conservative, that back the blue individual is gonna become more and more anti-police and become more and more motivated to stop supporting the police.
So that's how that is going to go.
Sadly.
And really, I don't see anybody vying for real solutions except Vivek Ramaswamy.
He's the only one that continually talks about shutting down the FBI.
And shutting down these defunct and corrupt federal wings of the law enforcement.
Needs to be stopped.
Needs to be stopped.
So, I will take your calls on this.
And I want to do quick in and out on the call here.
Don't go too long, because I want to take as many calls as possible.
Not going to be on uh I'm not going to be able to do the normal broadcast time tonight.
I've got to jump off a little bit early.
But yes, I can read the comments.
It looks like they were down for a while.
They're working again, but yes, the Liberty broadcast.
Yeah, if you defend yourself in Austin, uh you're you're likely to now be arrested.
Like the uh the recent story where a guy gets a gun pointed at him, and so he shoots the guy who is pointing the gun at him, and then he ends up getting arrested.
You see, that's the kind of crap that is going to be in every major Democrat-run city near you very soon.
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Phone line is open.
We got our first caller of the night.
What's your name?
Where you're from?
This is part fine in uh Georgia.
How you doing, Alan?
Good man.
So can conservatives still support law enforcement even though it's been weaponized against us.
Absolutely not.
Is that a trick question?
No.
I mean, I explained my I explained my logic on it.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, they've been weaponized on the on the people for a long time.
It was called the war on drugs.
Now they're just going after different groups.
So what's the difference?
Yeah, that would be part of the uh reformation process would be ending just a lot of these things that are even crimes to begin with.
We either need to divorce ourselves state by state from these federal agencies like the FBI or shut them down.
I don't know.
I'm not a politician.
I don't have the answers, obviously.
Well, my solution is you shut them down, you structure it, but it needs to be swift, and you know, find out who good agents are, and you put them into local police precincts and jurisdictions and districts, and you empower the local districts.
You decentralize, you decentralize law enforcement.
Sounds good to me, Alan.
Thanks for having me on.
I'm gonna give you time for another caller, but thank you.
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Next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Oh, and it's Mike from Pennsylvania Circle Drawing Mike.
How's it going?
All right, Mike, Mike, how uh can we still support law enforcement that's been weaponized against us?
I mean it's pretty tough these days when you see what they're doing to ordinary citizens.
And I mean, it this goes back to videos Alex were was doing 20, 30 years ago in p police state.
I don't know.
It's it's tough.
I mean you gotta search out good police officers.
Well, exactly.
So so that's what I'm saying, and I was kind of reverse engineering this earlier.
When if they ever get their little citizens l Citizens goon squad that Obama wanted and talked about, they have all of us, every single person, everybody tuned in right now, as as either internet active or not that you've been.
You have a social profile.
They know whether you're a leftist or a conservative or or whatever.
This is all available.
And so they can sit here if they're hiring, you know, let's say Rachel, Rachel Levine and Sam Brenton are in charge of the new uh trune squad Democrat Party police force.
Well, they're gonna make sure every single person they hire is a deranged leftist.
I mean, they're gonna make sure every single person they hire is a deranged Trump aiding leftist.
So that's gonna end up being the law enforcement if we if we go against the current law enforcement.
So it's a it's it's a it's a really difficult trap we're in.
I think one of the solutions that needs to be pushed more is the the sheriff angle, getting good sheriffs elected in counties and then making sure that the sheriff departments are hiring people who are qualified and are there to actually enforce laws and not social agendas.
I mean, I think there really needs to be a movement, uh a real sheriff's movement in this country again.
Sheriffs are definitely one of the last uh standing bastions that we have a uh a chance to really I mean control is maybe not the right word, but at least influence and and count on no system is perfect, but uh yeah, definitely kind of the last last bash and last hope there.
Thanks for the call, Mike.
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All right, let's take another call.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Yeah, I'm Wayne.
I'm Yeah, Wayne, yeah, Wayne.
Can conservatives still support law enforcement that's weaponized against them.
So what you gotta do is you just you have to you have to be lawful, you have to remain in possession of the means to defend yourself.
And you know, if anybody tries to for you gotta be prepared for anybody who tries to come in your space, you know, you need to have a perimeter wherever you go, eyes in the back of your head, and uh I mean, you just have to be prepared to defend yourself matching force with force.
You know, whatever whatever forces uh looking to be exercised against you, you have to be, you know, mentally aware and physically present, you know, and and have the the physical, you know, uh ability to to be able to defend yourself.
If it's with this, then you know, you have to defend yourself with this.
If it's a knife with a knife, it's a gun with a gun.
Uh and you know, whatever happens, happens from there, but you know, well, and this is why this is why giving law enforcement, I mean, even the left understands this, they approach it differently.
But this is why giving any law enforcement a monopoly on violence is a dangerous thing.
And that's why it's such a critical trust to have between citizens and the police force is because that is such a danger dangerous thing to say you have a monopoly on violence.
And and and they really don't.
This is why police get challenged in the legal system and end up in court and sometimes in jail all the time.
Um, you know, e whether it whether legitimate or not, it it does happen.
But that's a very, very dangerous thing to do, and that's why it's it's closely monitored.
But until the left controls it, then they'll just it'll just be free reign.
It'll be like the Nazi brown shirts, it'll be like you know, pull pots, youth brigades, and everything else.
Yeah, I mean, you know, and the main thing is too, is if you're in if you're in the blue cities, and I know it's up and and and trust me, I never thought I'd be the one to say this, but if you have Soros DAs running your city, then it it's a serious time to consider uh getting out.
It really is, because for the time being, you know, to put yourself in in harm's way in that regard to where there's a good possibility at some point, if you're especially if you're if you're very prominent in an area and you're very active uh in a city uh that's adverse to you know to the agenda of those Soros DAs and judges,
then uh there's a good possibility where you know you're gonna be confronted at some point in time, and as as kind of the the wrath of these, you know, insane lunatics built because they're the letter of their law works rat in indignation.
Now God's law works grace and peace and mercy because when we were failed in our sins, God allowed for sin to become exceedingly sinful, right?
In hopes that we would that we would change our minds, that we would repent, that we would turn to him.
But but that's not the the carnal knowledge law that they serve.
And their only purpose is to sow discord and and wrath and indignation amongst themselves.
They have a bomb mentality.
But is that as that builds and builds and builds into a crescendo?
I mean, it's it also affects even a peaceable person, you know, like you or like myself to work.
Well, listen, listen to every caller.
Every every caller has basically said no.
It's exactly what you what you just said.
Even people like myself, conservatives.
We're we're not gonna take this forever.
Even even the most ardent supporters of law enforcement, even the most ardent back the blue people.
They are not going to take this bull crap forever.
They're not gonna sit here and watch people get politically persecuted, and they're not gonna sit here and watch their cities go to absolute hell.
And then be subject to the full extent of the law because of some dumb ticky tack violation that really serves no purpose.
Let's take another call.
What's your name?
Where you're from.
Hi, this is uh Dave.
What's up, Dave?
Can conservatives still support law enforcement that's aimed against us.
Uh well, you know what?
I'm I'm I'm twisted on that way.
I don't know if I really trust the law enforcement these days.
Um, and I don't even know why they're fighting for us at this point, right?
They're being persecuted just for fighting against these criminals and protecting people, you know.
I mean, and you, we got great people like you.
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I was gonna let you know.
I I've always been watching you and Alex Jones and everybody else, and I just found out you were on Rumble, so I had to come I had to come uh support you, man.
I'm gonna I followed you, and I'm gonna send my other friends over here too.
So you'll be getting a lot more subscribers, hopefully, you know.
I appreciate that.
And were you commenting on the chat, or are you talking about just on the on the video page?
Oh, on I think it's on the video page then with your live, and I scroll down on the comments, and nothing is allowing me to add anything.
Yeah, Rumble is not a perfect uh design, certainly yet.
But you know what?
We're here, we're live.
I got you on the phone, and so we got that going for us.
Man, you guys are awesome.
And uh yeah, I'm so glad you're rumble.
I'm gonna send my friends over here now that I know you're here, because like there's I'm pretty sure there's a lot of other people that don't know you're over here, you know.
Like, man, I love how you go to these transgender events.
I love how you do like you're just fighting for us.
I've been supporting you guys, I've been buying all your I bought two Tamerics, I got uh a bunch of these Turbo Force uh ultras.
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It's the one where Alex talks about with the red bottle.
It's the new one you guys are here.
It is right here.
Nitric oxide?
Oh my gosh, dude.
Like that thing is amazing, man.
Like I'm in my 40s, and I'm struggling every now and then, you know what I'm saying?
But dude, this thing, I wake up every single morning like a stallion.
Like, oh my god.
I'm tell oh my god, I'm telling you, like, don't take Viagra.
Don't take Cialis, don't take those stupid rhino pills from the liquor store, the 7-Eleven.
You know, I look Oh my gosh.
You're just here's the thing.
Alex has been talking about this for a while.
We're a little off subject.
But Alex.
Yeah, sorry about it.
No, it's all good.
Alex has been talking about this for a while, and it's starting to kind of make its way into, you know, just the the InfoWars water cooler talk about uh Alex talking about his Darth Vader.
And um You know, look, I've been I've been I've been trying, I've been trying to say this subtly, subtly blood flow, blood flow, blood flow.
Okay.
All right, but there you go.
What is this guy?
He's like a he's a 40-year-old stallion.
Good God.
Yeah, man.
I never would have thought it would be even possible, man.
But then my wife, she's like, tell you I can't.
I can't.
I gotta I gotta I got you're awesome, man.
You're awesome.
I love you.
Thank you for the call.
I gotta I just it's too much.
It's too much.
Let's get back on topic, guys.
We're losing the plot.
We're losing the plot.
But but isn't it odd though?
I could have asked, I could have asked the question, but I think all hope was lost.
All hope was lost when he mentioned the stallion.
All right.
We got Darth Vader fighting stallions here.
We'll get back.
We'll get back on the uh subject matter now.
I could have asked him, you know, do you think we should still enforce law?
But but support law enforcement.
But you see, most these are most of my audience are conservatives.
Most of my audience are, you know, even libertarian types, uh, anti-establishment, but like still understand the thin blue line and and and how delicate that is, and we don't want to be against law enf enforcement, but it's like they're really pushing conservatives to the edge.
I think these callers kind of indicate that.
Let's take another call.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Uh it's Matt from Ohio.
Hey, Matt.
So uh can conservatives still support law enforcement when it's weaponized against them.
I guess not.
I mean, yeah, no.
But my question is to you, I've been a longtime listener of Alex and you, and you guys used to call for the police to arrest or someone to arrest Fauci, arrest somebody.
You guys don't call for that anymore.
So is there nobody gonna get arrested or what?
Well, I mean, you know, I guess I could be screaming arrest Fauci till I'm blue in the face, but um the only hope we have right now is Rand Paul's investigation.
And I mean, we get the congressional hearings every every month or so, and that's like it.
And so it makes for a nice soundbite and a nice video.
Um but until we get until we get subpoenas or indictments.
So so we're just basically right.
We're just basically screwed, man.
I hate to be a pessimistic because don't be a total pessimist.
I mean, I get it.
Look, but here's here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Let's not let's not go too far off the let's not go too far off the ledge here.
All right, let's not get too far off the ledge.
I hear you, I hear you.
I got all the survival food and everything too, trust me.
So you're good.
But but if Trump to answer the question basically, if Trump gets into office, I I would guess you're probably never gonna have anything for Fauci.
Um I think I think that's where they got Trump is with the vaccine and the COVID stuff.
And so that's kind of a protective mechanism of Fauci.
And so if Trump gets in, Fauci's gonna be probably protected for Trump's entire administration.
Uh now DeSantis or someone else gets in, that might be a different story.
Uh so you know, you may you may support Trump either way, you may not.
I I'm just saying that's kind of how I look at that formula.
That's how I look at that playing out.
But what did you mention?
What's the overall point?
The point is that how can Anthony Fauci who's just who's just drenched in the blood of the innocent?
I mean, this guy is is is unbelievable in the mass murder department.
So that's the point.
Is okay, well, if if if you're gonna let the Epsteins of the world, if you're gonna let the Anthony Fauci's of the world get away with it, well then why should the average law-abiding citizen who who has never harmed anybody be subject to the full extent of the law?
And the answer, of course, is they shouldn't.
But so then what do you do?
We're not fucked.
We're never fucked.
Because here's this is this is true.
Because we may make chess analogies and it works, but this isn't a game of chess.
This is this is God's.
This is God's game.
And God never, never puts us in a situation we can't get out of.
Believe me.
All right, let's take another caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey, man.
It's Arizona Dave Art and Phoenix, man.
What's going on, Ollie?
What's up, Dave?
Hey, man.
So can conservatives still support law enforcement that's weaponized against them.
Okay, here's the deal, man.
I, you know, I'm an Air Force veteran, so I'm always going to back to blue.
But I'm going to tell you, I got a bone to pick.
You know, my brother was murdered by another black man.
You know, my brother was murdered by another man.
And hopefully go about it finding out who killed them ourselves.
So I've I've always kind of had a sore spot with uh law enforcement, you know, just for the fact that, you know, here I am in good old US of A war on terrorism and back home in Amarillo, Texas.
My brother gets murdered.
So, you know, it's I don't know.
It's hard, it's it's give or take.
And you know, here's the deal, though.
I mean, honestly, I want to support them, but if they're gonna come after conservatives, then we've got to figure out how to weed out the good cops and figure out how to how they've got to at least go after the bad ones that are coming after us.
We've got to, if something's got to break.
I'll tell you what, listening to you has me thinking, because I'm thinking solutions, right?
Because I can hear it, it's the same, it's the same in your voice.
It's the same with the other callers where we just reach a logical conclusion, which is there is no equal justice, and there, and so therefore there is no justice, and so why would I comply with the justice system?
And so if that's the conclusion, I think I think the way to maybe have a peaceful resistance or non-compliance with this, which I mean I most people would probably like.
I'd say all, but we all know that's not true.
Most people would probably like a peaceful solution.
Like, okay, I'll get let's say I decide.
I'm just using this example because I brought it up earlier.
Let's say I decide that I'm not gonna get my new registration tags, and that the police here today.
And that the police want to write me a ticket.
Oh, they're gonna pull me over every time, aren't they?
Yeah, they're gonna write me a ticket, they're gonna pull me over every time.
Okay, I'll be your little scoff law, and I'll have and I'll have 16, you know, expired registration tags.
Oh, okay.
Well, maybe they come after Owen Schreuer if he does that, but wait a second.
What if we all decide?
What if we all decide, you know what?
I'm not gonna pay my registration fine.
I'm not gonna pay my expired license plate fine, we're not gonna pay all these stupid little fines.
And then the court system just comes becomes so backed up with all these petty tiny little law enforcement things that have no real complications, outcomes, or consequences in the real world, just just little petty bureaucracies and paperwork and fines, and they're just so built up that it's just like, okay, the whole thing just it's game over on that.
Like nobody's paying their fines now.
So that's a solution.
It's it's working.
I mean, you hear everybody, nobody's paying their car loans.
So the car loan situation is about to go to function, is about to go up in the air, too.
Well, and and and you know, it's funny you say that because obviously that's a different problem, but it's funny you say that because it's the same, but it's the same thing.
It's like all it takes is what it's like a snowball effect.
It was like, oh, it's not just this little trend of car payments not being made.
Folks, the bottom fell out.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Where, you know, it the banks don't want to give loans, and because they can't they can't recruit the cars that are out there that know what's paying on.
So just like you people won't pay our we won't pay our registration fees, because that makes a lot of sense.
Let's not pay the registration fees, but if they'll come after us with that, I mean they'll know exactly what vehicles are not up to date because it's gonna be you know, clear as day on our license plates, then you know we don't have the updated stickers, and then they'll just constantly pull us over, and then you know what will happen?
We'll start getting our cars impounded, and then you know, and then they'll have anything.
That's actually interesting.
I don't know how that works.
If you have a bunch of tickets like that, can you they impound your vehicle even if you own it?
Absolutely, absolutely.
And I work for the biggest uh tow company in Arizona, and trust me, man, they will come get your car, and you will be carless if you don't pay uh if you don't have your registration and your insurance up to date.
And you know, and and uh as fortunate, unfortunately, that's how they get you.
They got you by the balls because they have systems in place, you know, to make sure that they can reprimand you for not doing what you're supposed to do.
All right, well, well, I guess what we gotta do is we just all gotta start the repossession companies now.
Right.
Just let's just start just start right.
And and then it'll be like a it'll be like a weed trapped them.
Like, oh, we're gonna you're oh yeah, I'll I'll impound all these cars for you, and then they pay us to take them in, and we just keep the thing open.
Yeah, then we could do that too.
You're right.
Oh, I don't know.
We impounded the vehicles and they're all gone.
I uh sorry, there's there's no police.
I don't know anything.
Uh that'd be a way to do it.
Hey, but man, I just want to tap in with you real quick, maybe I'll let you get back to the callers, man.
Thank you for taking my call, but uh I love what you're doing.
Right on.
Good to hear from you.
That was a good story, too.
Thanks for sharing that.
All right.
I'm gonna go.
I'm I'm gonna go for an hour tonight.
I'm gonna go for an hour minimum.
So we'll take another caller or two.
I do have to sign off early tonight, unfortunately.
I gotta sign off early tonight.
Um things are just crazy right now, and I I need the extra hour desperately.
I'll just put it like that.
So, but we'll take a couple more phone calls.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey, Owen, it's Cynthia in Florida.
How are you?
Hi, hi, Cynthia.
So um, can conservatives support law enforcement that's weaponized against them?
Well, I I I kind of look at it a little differently, probably because of where I grew up.
I grew up in New York City, and it was kind of a rough neighborhood where we were sort of raised not to trust police at all.
I mean, I'm I'm I I had similar talks like a black person would get.
Don't say anything, don't trust.
Anyway, um I think that you need to look at it a little bit differently.
I think that police, like anybody else, they're human.
I understand that you're angry about what happened with being pulled over, but reasonably that cop didn't know that you had skatey eight assaults against you that never went through the courts.
He just knew that your tag was expired.
And you know what?
Your tag was expired.
You got nailed bare and square.
What are you gonna do?
But these cops, they're really deep down, just like the rest of us, they're people.
And I lived in Giuliani's New York, and I know what it was like before he came in, and I know what he was able to change.
And New York City was really, really bad.
But when he came in, he established an order, and he gave the police department their due respect.
I mean, we're all human, just like you are upset because you're like, you know what?
I have all these things that have happened to me, and nobody is doing anything for me.
So why should I even try and keep a law?
But if we all do that, it's never gonna work.
It's never gonna work.
We can't just say, oh, well, you know, nobody's gonna pay their their uh their registration anymore.
You know what they'll do?
They'll come up with uh a martial law situation.
We'll be giving them the excuse that they want to take over.
We have to have a level head and just remember, hey, we're all people, let's just talk to each other.
Maybe what you should do is have a show where you invite the cops to call in and talk to them and say, hey, you know, this is how we feel.
How do you feel?
Because I think you'll find that we have more in common than we don't.
And let's face it, it sucks to be a cop nowadays, and you gotta have a pretty bent mindset to even want to put yourself in that situation.
You know what I mean?
You know, I do I I I do know what you mean, but the the but I do talk to cops.
I do know cops.
I I talk to cops in APD.
I talk to the detectives, I talk to the cops that handle my assault cases.
So they know what's going on.
I know what's going on, and I agree.
The cop that pulled me over has no idea about my situation, and I didn't bother telling him to it, be telling him it doesn't matter.
Here's what's going on for a little more context, though.
Austin Has got so out of control with the law enforcement.
They're just sending these cops out here as paper pushers just to say, see, there's law enforcement.
See, we're writing citations.
We're we're on the streets enforcing the law.
So there's a bunch of different layers to this.
But look, I okay.
So we have a talk with cops.
Okay, so what?
So we're all like-minded.
So what's solved?
You got to get together and come up with a solution.
I know they don't want to go out there and get killed.
And you don't want to have lawlessness in your neighborhood.
We have to figure it out on our own.
And we have to do it on a local level.
Well, exactly.
And that's why.
I don't know how many people are in Austin.
I'm in Hollywood.
I got like about 150,000 people.
It's a pretty big city.
I mean, if it was a small town like uh Maybury, then maybe you could do that thing where, oh, everybody's just not gonna pay a fine, and uh, then we'll get the law changed.
It's harder when it's a big city.
You just can't do it like that.
No, actually, I would say it would be easier in a big city.
In a small city, it'd be easier for them to go find a couple hundred people in a big city when there's thousands of people, they'll just drop them.
They'll just they'll just that that's that would be the theory of too big and would just break.
Well, I I still I I don't I don't think that it's so much.
I don't think it's it's all against us.
It feels like it.
It does feel like it, but I think everybody to a certain extent has been diluted.
I mean, I live in Broward County, which if if Florida had an asshole, it would be Broward County.
Okay, it's a wonderful state, except for that one little area.
I'll give you an example.
My Congresswoman is Debbie Washington Schultz.
End of story.
So I live with people that are liberal.
And but they're good people, but they're deluded.
Mostly because they don't pay attention because everybody's living their life.
And that I think is the crux of the big of the problem all the way around.
Nobody's paying attention.
Everybody's got their face in a phone.
Nobody knows what's going on, or they only know what's going on three feet in front of them.
And little by little, we're we're just we're losing our humanity.
It's sad.
Well, there's no doubt about that.
There is absolutely no doubt about that.
Sadly.
Hmm.
A lot of issues.
There are solutions.
There always are.
But, you know, it's just pretty simple.
We just want to be able to live our lives free and prosper without the government getting involved in our business, you know?
And we don't want other people telling us what to do and how to live our lives.
It's really that simple.
So this conversation will continue, whether it happens right here or somewhere else, because this is an inevitable situation.
This is an inevitable nexus.
This is an inevitable realization that conservatives and Republican voters are going to come to in the very near future because it's going to happen to them.
And it's going to be them getting politically persecuted, or it's going to be them getting harassed for petty BS by law enforcement, and they're going to say, you know what?
I'm done.
I'm done.
No more back to blue.
No.
No, I'm done.
We had your back when you were under attack, and now we're under attack, and you don't have our back.
We're done.
I hope that's not how it gets solved, but I'll tell you this.
I'd rather have it that way than have to deal with political persecution and weaponized law enforcement and injustice the rest of my life.
So I'll tell you that right now.
All right.
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