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| I want to tell you something I did when I was a teenager. | ||
| I actually attended one APAC meeting. | ||
| I think I was 17. | ||
| And so I think I know exactly what Thomas Massey's talking about. | ||
| Can I tell you a little bit about my one visit to an APAC conference? | ||
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unidentified
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Sure. | |
| So I was a teenager and uh and I came to Washington. | ||
| It was very excited. | ||
| I was a Canadian, so I don't know what I was doing. | ||
| But um I was assigned because I was from Calgary. | ||
| I was assigned to the group from I think it was Oregon. | ||
| So basically you had a couple of thousand Jews coming to Washington to learn about Israel issues. | ||
| And then they had a lobby day where everyone was directed to the congressman or senator in their region. | ||
| So if you have a 2,000 Jews from across America, okay, you ten go to this congressman, you go to that one. | ||
| And one of those people would be, they wouldn't use the word handler. | ||
| That word is chosen because it sounds like you're a paid minder. | ||
| There was someone who would sort of volunteer and be, yeah, I'll be the contact. | ||
| I'll be the one who reminds our congressman that in his district there's a thousand Jews. | ||
| Or to remind him that in his district or people care this way. | ||
| That's what Massey means by a handler. | ||
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unidentified
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Well, so it's not it's not a Mossai. | |
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's not a American citizen, yeah. | ||
| And my memory, it's now 38 years ago when I went as a teenager, and I remember I was with the Oregon delegation for some reason. | ||
| It was a it was like a mum or a dad who they were really excited and a little nervous, and they sort of agreed that once in a while they would send an email. | ||
| And that's what a handler is. | ||
| The way Massey talks about it, it's like some massad spy. | ||
| Well, it's well, it's but it's also the way APAC talks about. | ||
| You know, APAC will put up a thing going. | ||
| Of course, you know, 99% of our candidates got got elected. | ||
| Now why would they say that? | ||
| Now they could say that because it's true. | ||
| Or they could say that because they're in the fundraising business, and if they look weak or powerless, who's gonna give to them? | ||
| And so and then one of the things that's well, but it's not, but it but it is real, right? | ||
| I mean, they're not gonna be. | ||
| Would Ted Cruz be re-elected with without APAC money? | ||
| Uh I don't know. | ||
| You don't know? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You don't you think that Ted Cruz is so on the edge that if it weren't for APAC, he wouldn't win? | ||
| I think he barely squeaked by last time. | ||
| I put it to you that APAC, like every other fundraising organization, is a specialist at asking for money and sounding like a puffer fish bigger than the I'm not denying that APAC is powerful, but I would also put to you that every other country in the world does this too. | ||
| Including in recent years, Qatar. | ||
| Well, uh yeah, I mean, I'm I'm sure other other they also also have to uh register for Farah, which A APA doesn't register. | ||
| APAC are Americans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I was I I was with a bunch of mums and dads. | ||
| Yeah who were No, I I I get that. | ||
| But again, it's it's it's the fact that like, okay, we have fought like hell, we got Trump elected, and then it feels like so much of the effort and the energy and the resources of Trump's second administration have gone towards Israel-centric uh topics. | ||
| I mean, it it has I mean, you know, yes, they they're deporting people, but then you've got this hyper focus on we're gonna, you know, we're gonna go through people's social media, and if they're anti-Israel, they aren't gonna, you know, get into the country. | ||
| It's like that's that's not for us. | ||
| Pause for a second. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Have you have you actually changed the test, the litmus test there? | ||
| Anti-Israel. | ||
| Is that really the test? | ||
| Or is it pro-Hamas? | ||
| Because they're different things. | ||
| Are they? | ||
| Oh my God, they are. | ||
| Epstein never said, I'm a Jew, juju, juju, ju doo, right. | ||
| What I'm doing is Jewey Jewy Jewy. | ||
| He never does that. | ||
| Well, that's well, that's where it intersects with Israel being a foreign state with its own intelligence operations that, you know, is is obviously considers itself a uh a Jewish state. | ||
| And actually, I think that again, when it gets to sort of the the frustrations that we're seeing sort of bubble over on the internet right now, I think a lot of it has to do with sort of inconsistency or hypocrisies that we see, not even from Jewish people, but from people uh from right wingers, you know, i in uh in Congress. | ||
| It's almost like Israel gives them this license to be hardcore about something, but they'll never do it for Americans, right? | ||
| When it comes to Israel, it's like where you're just gonna go kill everybody and we're gonna you know I'm I'm talking about Lindsay Graham or Ted Cruz. | ||
| It's like something about Israel gives them the license to go hardcore and and almost be, you know, support an ethno state, support identity, where everywhere else and everywhere else it's it's interacted, it's oh well, we can't do that, and well, let's let's walk carefully here. | ||
| It's like, well, they never feel that way with Israel. | ||
| So there's a there's an inconsistency there that again, I think I think grates on people. | ||
| It grates on me because I see so much being done for Israel by our federal government that they will never do for us. | ||
| So there's you know what I mean? | ||
| I don't know what you mean. | ||
| So I'd like you to unpack that last sentence. | ||
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I will. | |
| I see so many things that our government is doing for Israel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Give me a list of three. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| So one uh pri primary example would be like the university presidents being pressured and and some of them being fired. | ||
| I think Okay, is that Israel that's doing that? | ||
| Well, yeah, well, it's it's it's because they wouldn't crack down on anti-Israel protest on their campuses. | ||
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unidentified
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Okay. | |
| So university presidents, and what's number two? | ||
| Uh the TikTok ban would be another one. | ||
| I think uh I don't think TikTok what's the TikTok ban? | ||
| I think TikTok uh was banned because there was a lot of uh anti-Israel content going out, and they now have uh IDF uh soldier sort of overseeing them and you know, as uh as Alex was talking about the IV Netanyahu thing, calling it an eighth front. | ||
| Okay, what's the third thing? | ||
| Uh third thing would be like uh protecting uh our border versus you know sending weapons to Israel and how you know willing we are like you'll have the same people in our uh in our government say it's immoral to close the border. | ||
| We have to allow people in, but they're you know hardcore about uh you know Israel's border. | ||
| I'm gonna add a fourth one, which is the three billion dollars a year in military aid to Israel. | ||
| Well, I don't like that either. | ||
| But but it's more it's more about okay, we for a decade have been going, hey, these universities are teaching anti-white stuff. | ||
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Right. | |
| They've got entire classes called, you know, the problem with whiteness and how to eradicate it. | ||
| We can never even get a congressman to even acknowledge us, let alone do something. | ||
| Then when it becomes, oh, there's anti, you know, there's pro-Palestine protest on the campus, it suddenly the federal government is like gonna shut the school down if they don't immediately do something. | ||
| And so again, it's not even it's like it's almost like if we were getting everything we want and that was happening, I wouldn't have a problem with it. | ||
| It's the inconsistency of the federal government when it comes to serving the American people, right? | ||
| Ah, our hands are tied, gee, we'd love to, but just we can't. | ||
| And then when it comes to something Israel wants, it's like boom, it's done. | ||
| Because TikTok's another good example. | ||
| Trump's first administration, they tried a TikTok ban, didn't go anywhere, it didn't even, I don't even think it went to a vote. | ||
| Nothing happened. | ||
| Uh then you've got Nikki Haley going up and saying f every 15 minutes you spend on TikTok, you're 30% more anti-Semitic or whatever it was. | ||
| And it's like TikTok gets banned two weeks later. | ||
| So uh again, it's it's not even necessarily the things that are happening, it's the discrepancy between the speed and power with which the federal government will move when it comes to Israel's benefit, you know, something that benefits Israel. | ||
| But when it comes to Americans, we we cannot get any benefits out of our government. | ||
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unidentified
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Sure. | |
| I've got thoughts on all four of those, if I may. | ||
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unidentified
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*gunshots* Thank you. | |
| Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Welcome to the war room. | ||
| I'm your host, Harrison Smith, joined in studio by Ezla uh Ezra Levant. | ||
| And uh I just realized I don't I don't have a sheet for you to tell everybody where to go, but obviously Rebel News is uh is your outfit there, Aaron Canada doing amazing work. | ||
| And uh how else can people find you? | ||
| Well, that's the main way Rebel News.com. | ||
| I'm on uh X at Simply My Name, which is Ezra Levant, and uh we're always doing news that I think is a sort of a general thematic fit with War Room. | ||
| I mean, today we had a big story very exciting that we think we've discovered an antifa cell working out of a military base in Montreal, Quebec, which is crazy. | ||
| You guys have gone ahead and banned it as a terrorist group. | ||
| They seem to be operating in a military base in Canada. | ||
| Isn't that nuts? | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| I was actually it was funny. | ||
| I was looking at that story when I learned that you were in town today. | ||
| So I was like, oh great. | ||
| This is uh, you know, and I actually I got a whole Canada stack here. | ||
| I don't know what the heck's going on in Canada. | ||
| They're killing ostriches, they're taking the guns, you're all being replaced by Indians. | ||
| It's like what is happening up there? | ||
| Well, we've covered that ostrich story like crazy. | ||
| And uh at first you're thinking ostriches. | ||
| What like who cares? | ||
| That's how's that even news? | ||
| But I think it's a real echo of COVID authoritarianism. | ||
| And I think people there's 400 birds at that ostrich farm, and they're big birds. | ||
| Like it and the idea they're gonna kill every single one of them, because 250 days ago, some of them got sick and then got better, and now they've got all herd immunity. | ||
| I think people see a lot of things in there, and they they say, okay, this is just like the COVID authoritarians having arbitrary rules that make no sense, they brook no dissent and that are extreme. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And there's just so many and and junk science and and no room for dissent and police. | ||
| Now the RCMP, that's our FBI coming in because the Canadian food inspection agency is coming to kill these 400 birds, but they'd be roughed up by the locals. | ||
| So now you got this huge team of actual cops that are protecting the food inspection cops. | ||
| Like it it's it's become a whole thing. | ||
| Someone's used the word ostrich Waco, God forbid. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But it is crazy out there. | ||
| And you know, I mean, ostriches are not the most lovable animal. | ||
| I mean, they're they're ugly, they're mean, but they I think even despite that, people say, don't kill those birds. | ||
| There's a there's a and you know, even RFK Juniors weighed in on the junk signs behind us. | ||
| So ostriches, I know we've got a little website called Save the Ostriches.com, and it's so hard to get there because it's so in the middle of you know the country, you have to drive and take two ferries to get there. | ||
| Like it's so remote remote. | ||
| But we uh, you know, we've got a Starlink and we've got an R V and we're covering if you want ostrich news, you come to the right place. | ||
| I I've I've you know I've been seeing it crop up occasionally, and I just haven't put the time, I'm just like, there's something going on with Oshes. | ||
| I figured they're calling them. | ||
| I mean, it's you know, like you said, COVID, but that ties into the you know, food control system and and all that sort of stuff. | ||
| That's exactly what it is. | ||
| I just I just look at Canada, and I of course I see us 15 years down the line, and uh and uh you know it ties into everything. | ||
| But you know, you you wanted to come and and take calls from the audience, and uh I I think it was your idea to call it ask a Jew or something like that, and obviously this topic just dominates conversation. | ||
| And in a way, I feel like I'm I'm sort of the perfect person to discuss this because I grew up around Jews. | ||
| And you and you made this point with Alex, and I think it's a uh very pertinent one. | ||
| A lot of people out there literally never met a Jew in their life. | ||
| All they know is Benjamin Netanyahu on TV or whatever. | ||
| When you spend time around Jewish people, I've been to more Jewish weddings and birthdays and funerals and everything, and you get an appreciation for their culture and an understanding of like sort of the perspective uh that might characterize most Jews, it's a lot harder to characterize all of them as one thing or all of them is as another. | ||
| Even I, you know, I was on Stu Peter's show, and he and I was saying, well, I grew up around tons of Jews, and he said they might have seemed nice, but if you had said Jesus Christ in their house, they would have kicked you out. | ||
| And it's like, dude, half of them are married to Gentiles and celebrate Christmas. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Like they just don't know what they're talking about. | ||
| Well, and that's the thing, that's completely not true. | ||
| I mean, I'm Jewish, I was one of four kids, we had big you know, holiday meals. | ||
| Saying Jesus Christ, in fact, the reason we wouldn't say that is we would be worried that if you if you say Christ is a swear, you would offend Christians. | ||
| I was raised not to say that because it was it could be offensive to take the Christian savior's name in vain to the ears of Christians. | ||
| So that's just complete bullshit from Stu Peters, who you know what? | ||
| I think he has his contrarian hat on, and he's turned it to full, and I think he trades in misinformation. | ||
| And that's what gets me. | ||
| On the one hand, a lot of Americans only know Jews from the internet, and so they know Rabbi Schmouly, who is a display. | ||
| I corrected when you said that on Alex's. | ||
| And of course, the censors who are either official Jews, like Jonathan Greenblatt, who's doing it in the name of Jews, and I really resent that because it's not in my name, or who are not doing it in the name of Jews, but just happen to be Jewish, and that bugs me too. | ||
| Why does he have to be a Jewish censor? | ||
| Um, I mean, obviously, there are non-Jewish censors too, but it sort of sticks when it's a Jew. | ||
| And I I don't know. | ||
| I just I think that I see so many but here's the there's people of good faith who have questions. | ||
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Um about tiny things. | |
| Like you just raised a tiny thing. | ||
| Can you say the word Jesus Christ in a Jewish home? | ||
| And Stu Peters says you'll get kicked. | ||
| That's complete bullshit. | ||
| Well, but it but you know, it is true for some, right? | ||
| I mean, and this is this is my this has always been my thing is when you know a lot of Jews, it's like, okay, some of them are sort of just Jewish in name and really don't give a damn. | ||
| And then you have sort of Jewish extremists that are driven by a different, you know, um uh uh religious understanding or whatever. | ||
| Well, listen, uh what I want to do, here's what I'd love to do. | ||
| And I'm listening, it's your show. | ||
| Um, but what I was what I what we started doing on Alex's show was taking calls, and I really, you know, I'd I'd love to hear what's really on people's minds, and I'm gonna try and answer them. | ||
| I'm gonna try not to jump on people too hard, and I'm gonna try and give a real answer because my experience is that if someone has a real question, like, how do you know six million Jews died? | ||
| How do you know it wasn't five million or or a seven million? | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| And if you jump on that person and say, You're anti-Semitic, shut up, we're gonna suspend you on Twitter or whatever. | ||
| You haven't answered the question. | ||
| You've really just made it worse. | ||
| And you've conf but you have confirmed that this is such a sensitive thing. | ||
| The truth is being kept. | ||
| I mean, you know, I was at the 9-11 museum in Manhattan. | ||
| Have you ever gone there? | ||
| I never have action. | ||
| Can I really recommend it to him? | ||
| And it was a very powerful tour. | ||
| And the tour guide was a local, it was, I mean, he works there, but it felt like he was more a neighborhood guy. | ||
| Like it was I learned so much. | ||
| And then he opened it up for questions. | ||
| Well, what kind of questions do you think there were? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Every theory, every alternative theory, every critical theory, including some zany theories. | ||
| And I thought, uh oh, well, you think that's his first time hearing those? | ||
| He hears those every day. | ||
| And and he was asked about steel and can jet fuel. | ||
| That's the one that was asked when I was there. | ||
| And he gave an answer so calmly and in my mind so persuasively. | ||
| And I thought, holy smokes. | ||
| Had he been sensitive and said, How dare you? | ||
| Not only would it have not educated the woman, and I don't know if she took his answer at face value. | ||
| I was pretty persuaded by it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he would have given her because having secret knowledge is one of the delights of a conspiracy theory. | ||
| I know something that you don't know and that you're not allowed to know. | ||
| I'm part of an elite priesthood that knows what's really going on. | ||
| That's one of the allures of any conspiracy theory is that you have special knowledge. | ||
| And I feel it too. | ||
| I feel like sometimes when we have a revelation on something and you, hey, everybody, you're all doing it wrong. | ||
| I got the secret truth. | ||
| And you know, once in a while, I suppose that's true. | ||
| But with Jews and Israel, there's so many rumors out there, such BS. | ||
| I think the right approach is to do your best to answer it. | ||
| Sometimes the answers aren't great answers. | ||
| Like if you're asking me to defend the actions of 15 or 20 million people, how could I? | ||
| Over the course of thousands of years. | ||
| Well, of course, over the course of thousands of years, some atrocious things were done by every culture, by every religion. | ||
| And how about this quirk in this? | ||
| How about this Talmud section that says that? | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| You ever look at other religious practices from Islam to Jehovah's Witnesses to Mormon? | ||
| Like, if if the game we're playing is find something weird in the religious practices of different religions, you're you'll be busy. | ||
| So there's I cannot defend every Jew in history and every Jew in the world. | ||
| But what I can do is appeal to the to the good faith of InfoWars users and say, don't buy into collective guilt. | ||
| If a Jew did something, it must have been the Jews who did it. | ||
| And I and I always say, think of Stephen Miller in your mind. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Think of the the greatest staffer in the White House. | ||
| Is he not a model American? | ||
| And is he not doing more than most cabinet ministers to make America great again? | ||
| And I say this is a Canadian, but boy, I'm jealous of that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So don't say the Jews. | ||
| If there's someone like we were just looking in the news today about that uh that financier friend of Howard, whatever, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, who creepy dude who was uh charged with sex dungeons and stuff, and he sounds like his last name is Jewish, which I hate. | ||
| But okay, was it an essentially Jewish thing he did? | ||
| Was it a religious thing he did? | ||
| Was it or did he just happen to be a Jew doing something disgraceful, which embarrasses Jews, I suppose, but was it really a Jewish thing? | ||
| I mean, there was a caller earlier on Alex's show. | ||
| What about the fact that these the Jews by being left wing earn anti-Semitism? | ||
| Wait a second. | ||
| Is being it was it a Jewish thing or were they just leftists? | ||
| And and I I think that I would hope, and and let's get into it. | ||
| Let's take as many calls as possible. | ||
| I would hope that that your viewers and that info war viewers would still believe in treating people as individuals and not saying a Jew did something, so all Jews are culpable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I would hope that they wouldn't use Jews as a scapegoat for other things in their own life that maybe there's a more painful answer for. | ||
| Why aren't I getting ahead? | ||
| Why did something go wrong in my life? | ||
| Why don't I have the motivation to fix certain things? | ||
| Why can't I do this or that? | ||
| The Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the universal absolution for you don't have to take responsibility for your own lives. | ||
| It's those Jews who did it. | ||
| I'd have flat tire today. | ||
| Oh, those Jews. | ||
| You know? | ||
| So my hope is that, you know, Woody Allen apparently told a joke. | ||
| What's anti-Semitism? | ||
| It's disliking Jews more than is absolutely necessary. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| That's sort of, I mean, he was he was a self-deprecating Jew. | ||
| And there's, I mean, the arguments that the Jews, the Jews used to be so proud of Jewish excellence. | ||
| How many Jews won a Nobel Prize? | ||
| How many Jews have written books or music? | ||
| Steven Spielberg. | ||
| I mean, the the Jerry Steinwell, I mean, how many Jews have done, but that doesn't win arguments now because that just goes to, oh, you see, they control. | ||
| There's so many Jewish communities, you see they control Hollywood. | ||
| There's so many Jews who are you see they control, they're powerful. | ||
| So trying to make an argument that Jews are a net positive, they're positive to the economy, they're a positive science. | ||
| How many Nobel Prize did those arguments don't work anymore, do they? | ||
| Because, oh, you see they're running the world. | ||
| You know, telling us you're powerful doesn't convince us you're not powerful. | ||
| All I would say is don't blame all Jews because someone who may not even regard themselves as Jewish. | ||
| Like you think, as I said to Alex, you really think Alex Soros? | ||
| Well, I guess maybe maybe that would be a good place to start. | ||
| Because I think you're right that you know, a lot of it has to do with the the way that the questions are just absolutely shut down. | ||
| And again, that's why I say I think I'm sort of in a unique position to do this, because I I totally get why people have the questions that they have and why they get mad when they're not answered. | ||
| So I I want to put those uh to you, you know, at least some of them. | ||
| And but again, I don't do it from a place of of ignorance of Jews or of hatred for Jews, obviously. | ||
| So, you know, when it comes to, I guess the question is, what is a Jew? | ||
| That's one thing that like nobody seems to can, you know, nobody can define. | ||
| Is it a religion? | ||
| Is it a race? | ||
| I mean, how do you define whether somebody's a Jew or not? | ||
| And I for me, I just say, well, if they say they are, they are. | ||
| That's as as basically as deep as I can get it, because other than that, it doesn't see there doesn't seem like a lot of uh strict definitions. | ||
| You know, and it's actually a very profound question you ask, because Israel is a country. | ||
| Their symbol is the star of David. | ||
| But if you see someone on the street with a Star of David in Austin or in New York, they might hate Israel. | ||
| Well, well, probably they don't hate Israel, but but they're not saying I'm Israeli, they're saying I'm Jewish. | ||
| So you have a religion that is also a state, but how but you can convert to become a Jew. | ||
| You can convert to the religion, although Jews generally try to dissuade you. | ||
| I don't know if you know that, but rabbis try to tell you not to do it. | ||
| No, you don't want to do this. | ||
| Like they're not evangelists. | ||
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Right. | |
| Um, but it's also inheritable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's Jews of different races. | ||
| Believe it or not, there's Ethiopian Jews. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Um, if you've ever been to Israel, I think you would be shocked by how multiracial it is. | ||
| Um there's a lot of Jews from Arab lands who, after Israel was founded, they were all kicked out and they went to Israel, the one place that would take them. | ||
| There were there used to be hundreds of thousands of Jews in Libya, Iraq, um, Syria, Yemen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, can you imagine? | ||
| There used to be an enormous number of Jews. | ||
| They all went to Israel, and so you have different colors and different races, I suppose, but they're all Jewish. | ||
| Then you got the Russian Jews who came, you know, in the last 40 years. | ||
| So it's a tough one. | ||
| Is Israel an ethno state? | ||
| Well, sort of, in in that anyone around the world, there's a law called the law of return. | ||
| If you're a Jew, you can go to Israel. | ||
| And that that's sort of a leftover from when Jews couldn't flee anywhere. | ||
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Right. | |
| And one of the contradictions in anti-Semitism is Jews, get out of Israel. | ||
| That's Palestinian. | ||
| Go back to Poland. | ||
| Jews, get out of Europe, go to well, where you know, I I think there's three ways of determining what is your ethnic homeland. | ||
| And I spend time in in wonderful places, and I think about it a lot. | ||
| Like I think about the word indigenous. | ||
| We don't use it enough for the indigenous English, the indigenous Irish. | ||
| But are they not? | ||
| They've been there for centuries, and and they are rooted to the land, their ethnicity. | ||
| And and you don't want to be be racist, but can anyone become Irish? | ||
| Well, it that's a tough question, and maybe it's not my right to answer. | ||
| But I I think that Israel has three things going for it. | ||
| It's historically, like you, you know, if you thousands of years ago, as told in the Bible, it was historically the indigenous people. | ||
| They also were granted it in a legalistic situation by the United Nations. | ||
| And finally, they won it in wars, which is how A lot of countries get their territory. | ||
| So you could say Israel exists by not one but three different methods or or standards, which is probably more than a lot of countries that are divvied up by some decolon colonialization. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Well, no, yeah, well, you're right. | ||
| And then and then of course you get into the colonial aspect and the fact that the the left sees everything in this very simple paradigm of oppressor versus oppressed, white ground. | ||
| They used to root for the Jews. | ||
| You know, when Israel was founded, it was very socialist. | ||
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Right. | |
| And you know, kibbutzes were actually communes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, and then they weren't totalitarian, but they were communistic economic projects. | ||
| And the Soviets voted at the UN to help create Israel. | ||
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Right. | |
| And for the first 20 or so years, America, Israel was not a close ally of America. | ||
| I mean, it was the America that really helped more and more. | ||
| And it wasn't until the 1967 war that I think Israel really bought strength and was no longer pushed around, and it was sort of a miraculous war. | ||
| If you it was called the Six Day War in 1967, five or six Arab countries were defeated. | ||
| And that's when the left sort of flipped on Israel. | ||
| And the left liked Jews when they were on their knees bleeding after the Holocaust. | ||
| There was a lot of sympathy for Jews. | ||
| But as soon as Jews were the tough guys with a strong army, a lot of the left lost their sympathy. | ||
| They like underdogs, and suddenly the Jews refused to be underdogs. | ||
| And I think the strength of the Palestinian movement over the last generation has been they have managed to convince people, and they would say honestly, I would I would be skeptical about that, that Israel is the oppressor and they are the oppressed. | ||
| And that's what has been Israel's great Achilles heel in this war. | ||
| Israel dominates in every possible way, other than when you're too strong, you look like a bully. | ||
| Well, well, there's there's that, but then there's also the fact that like right now there's a lot of anti-Semitism rules being passed in America and stuff like that. | ||
| And a lot of times that's predicated on this sort of assumption that Jews need extra protection and they're in this very sort of fragile state. | ||
| And so there's a contradiction there of actually the Jews are really strong, we don't need your help, but also if you don't, you know, censor people, then it's going to be dangerous for us. | ||
| So there's a contradiction there that I think grates on people. | ||
| You're exactly right. | ||
| And it's very tough to believe in free speech for people you don't like. | ||
| That's the toughest thing, isn't it? | ||
| But freedom of speech is the thing, it's the gift you have to give to your opponents if you want it for yourself. | ||
| And well, it's it's worth it, right? | ||
| I mean, that's always been my thing is like, yeah, people are going to say offensive things. | ||
| They might say things that really upset you, but what you get for that in return is the ability to think your own thoughts. | ||
| Isn't that worth it? | ||
| Being a little insulted. | ||
| You know, I brought something I was going to show Alex, but I forgot about it. | ||
| And I put it in my pocket. | ||
| Can I show you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, maybe I shouldn't do this, but I wanted to talk to him about freedom of speech, and I just forgot that I put this in my pocket. | ||
| This, I don't know if I if you can see it, let me hold it up there. | ||
| It says E2R. | ||
| That's Elizabeth Regina. | ||
| That's Queen Elizabeth II. | ||
| And let me open it. | ||
| I've never worn this, but this is a medal given to me. | ||
| It's the Queen's Jubilee Medal. | ||
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Wow. | |
| For advancing freedom of expression. | ||
| Oh, that's beautiful. | ||
| Here, can we put that over here? | ||
| We can get the right thing. | ||
| And I've never worn it because I because it's not a military medal, and it feels a little bit like it's not stolen ballot for me to wear this. | ||
| I was awarded it, but I would never wear this because I didn't serve in the military. | ||
| But I think about this, and I think that freedom of speech is a core pillar of the West. | ||
| And when I received this, I was very moved by it. | ||
| And I felt like it affirmed what I was doing. | ||
| And I got this because, you know, some years ago, I'd say almost 20 years ago now, I republished the Danish cartoons of Mohammed in a magazine I had. | ||
| And this was 2006 when you were just a tadpole. | ||
| But I published it. | ||
| I was driving by then. | ||
| I was hit with a complaint by something uh called the Alberta Human Rights Commission. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But it was it was not a human rights commission, it was a censorship company. | ||
| Oh, we know about that. | ||
| And and I was put through this 900-day ordeal because I published cartoons. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I I didn't publish them in a way that said, I agree with them. | ||
| It was like how a prosecutor would put put an exhibit to the jury. | ||
| Here's exhibit A, here's what we're talking about. | ||
| It was a magazine. | ||
| I could show people. | ||
| If it was radio, I'd have to paint a picture with words. | ||
| So I showed our people what all all the fuss was about. | ||
| The New York Times didn't, the Wall Street Journal didn't. | ||
| We were the only paper in Canada that did. | ||
| And I got hit with this human rights complaint. | ||
| And I thought, oh, this is a joke. | ||
| It'll be gone in a second. | ||
| No. 900 days. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And halfway through, I mean, my legal bill in the end was about 100 grand, but halfway through the human rights commission said to me, if you give this guy a full page, like there was a Muslim imam from Pakistan who had complained. | ||
| If you give him a full page in your magazine that you can't edit other than for typos and pay him, I think it was like 8,000 bucks. | ||
| We'll let you go. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I said I'd rather shut the whole thing down. | ||
| And it was quite a thing. | ||
| And I this was really the internet was fairly new back then. | ||
| This was 20 years ago. | ||
| Yeah, that's wild. | ||
| And YouTube had just been invented. | ||
| PayPal had just been invented. | ||
| So I was interrogated by this government bureaucrat. | ||
| And I and we managed to negotiate that we would make a record of the interrogation. | ||
| We didn't say video camera. | ||
| So she walks into my lawyer's office and we have a video. | ||
| If your friends can Google it really quickly, on YouTube, Ezra Levant Human Rights Commission. | ||
| It's it I I look a lot younger. | ||
| I had more hair with Doctor. | ||
| You might get a kick out of it, but they said to me, why did why did you publish those Danish cartoons of Mohammed? | ||
| And I don't want to take up too much time on this, but it's it's a story that shaped the course of my life. | ||
| Now I published those cartoons and I probably did a hundred media interviews. | ||
| And when people said, why did you publish those? | ||
| I tried to give the most reasonable answer I could. | ||
| It's a central artifact of the news story. | ||
| Uh we live under Queen Elizabeth's laws, not a Sharia law. | ||
| Um it was the huge subject around the world. | ||
| There were dozens. | ||
| Yeah, this is it here. | ||
| Look at me, look how young I look. | ||
| That's Shirlene McGovern who was grilling me. | ||
| Turn up the the sound if you can. | ||
| The recruiting pull that in and we can uh play because we're about to go to break in in a minute. | ||
| So what so what was your reason at the end of the day for posting it? | ||
| I just told you the reasons that I gave the public because I'm trying to sound super reasonable and win hearts and minds. | ||
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Right. | |
| But when the government asks you, you can't try and minimize what you did. | ||
| You can't bargain with the the state. | ||
| And I said, and maybe you guys can find it, I said, I reserve the right to be maximally offensive. | ||
| I'm not gonna try and bargain with you and convince you. | ||
| You are the state. | ||
| And if you're saying that my freedom turns on my answer, then my only reply is because it's my bloody right to do so. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, because they said I I shouldn't. | ||
| That's why because I remember that exactly. | ||
| And I remember at the time going, I don't even want to draw Muhammad, but that guy's telling me he's gonna blow me up if I do. | ||
| So now I have to, because he's telling me I can't. | ||
| So I didn't even want to before, but now I do. | ||
| And again, I think that that spirit informs a lot of what's going on on the right right now when it comes to Jews. | ||
| Well, talk more. | ||
| You're saying I can't say this, I'm gonna say it even more. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And shame on the ADL for creating that. | ||
| Oh, we'll we'll get into the ADL on the other side. | ||
| We'll be right back, folks. | ||
| Ezra Levant in studio. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is the war room. | ||
| I'm your host, Harrison Smith, brought to you, of course, by the Alex Jones Store.com. | ||
| Go there today, purchase a product. | ||
| You will not regret it. | ||
| The products are absolutely amazing, and you support incredible content like this. | ||
| I'm in studio with Ezra Levant, of course, of Rebel News, an amazing outlet. | ||
| Uh, and what we're talking about, we're gonna take calls, we're gonna go out to calls just here momentarily. | ||
| They're they're racking them up right now, and we'll go to those uh in just a second. | ||
| I'll sort of write down notes as you were talking um to Alex because again, you know, I grew up around a lot of Jewish people. | ||
| I know, I know I know the extremist Jews, I know the Jews that don't really care that much about it at all. | ||
| Uh and what what's the cliche where they say, you know, uh two Jews go in a room and three opinions come out, something like that. | ||
| Like it's a it's an incredibly intellectually diverse group of people. | ||
| Uh but and people don't really know how to how to deal with that, especially when you have the likes of Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL claiming to speak for everybody of the Jewish faith or the the Jewish ethnicity or however you want to define it. | ||
| And I, you know, I always call uh Jonathan Greenblatt our our self-appointed Jewish overlord. | ||
| He decided he's the one that gets to decide what everybody says, and I just try to stay consistent. | ||
| I wouldn't be okay with uh Catholics having this amount of power, I wouldn't be okay with Protestants having this amount of power. | ||
| I'm not okay with Jews having this amount of power. | ||
| And to me, there's something when you try to when I try to just have a principled stance that I apply regardless of the you know, I don't want a foreign nation involved. | ||
| If it's Israel, great, if it's Mexico, great. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| It's a foreign nation as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| I feel like that confuses people. | ||
| People want me to either be anti-Jew or a Mossad agent, and they can't handle that like genuinely, I got nothing against Jews, but I see a threat from to my first amendment coming from people who are claiming to act on the behalf of all Jews. | ||
| I mean, how do you how do you deal with that uh and and the power of the ADL or APAC or any of these groups? | ||
| On Alex's show, we ran a video. | ||
| I don't know if you saw it, of um every year I go to Davos at the World Economic Forum, not as an invited guest. | ||
| They won't let us in. | ||
| We're on the No, they they try to stop you actually. | ||
| We always report on the way you're getting pulled over. | ||
| Yeah, it's uh we've tracked down on the streets Larry Fink of BlackRock. | ||
| Albert Burla of Pfizer. | ||
| So we we basically are outside and we try and find these oligarchs and scrum them. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And once in a while they actually stop walking talk with us, but uh mostly they just try and hustle out of there. | ||
| Anyways, um my colleague Avi Yamini bumped into Yeah, there's that was a fun one there. | ||
| That was when Larry Fink was there. | ||
| He tried to scare us by taking out his cell phone and snapping pictures of our faces, and uh we walked with him for a long time. | ||
| I don't think he had ever been talked back to in his life. | ||
| I don't I I felt daggers the way he was uh looking at us. | ||
| You you pe you're peer you pierced the veil. | ||
| You know, you're not supposed to even be there. | ||
| Oh, that you know what? | ||
| Uh it's uh it was that was very true. | ||
| My heart was pumping. | ||
| Um that's I mean, I meant I I forgot to mention that as you know, the uh the man who shot Donald Trump's ear was in a black rock corporate video. | ||
| So who knows who I'm dealing with there? | ||
| Who knows if they've got anyways. | ||
| Uh so that I mean that's what we do. | ||
| But one of the people we bumped into at Davos was Jonathan Greenblatt. | ||
| And my colleague Avi Yamini, who's Jewish like I am, scrummed him. | ||
| And I don't know if you guys have that video. | ||
| It's about two minutes, and it might be worth watching. | ||
| Um do you guys have that video? | ||
| I I I give it to Daria who used it on the Yeah, and you know what? | ||
| I could explain what Avi said in five minutes, or he can show it himself in two. | ||
| It's it's my view, and I'll say it while you guys are loading it up. | ||
| What bugs me about Jonathan Greenblatt is that he said, I'm the official Jew. | ||
| I'm doing this on behalf of Jews. | ||
| What I am doing is Jewish censorship. | ||
| I'm the boss of the Jews. | ||
| No one voted me for this position. | ||
| But uh, and uh you use the word, I forget what you said, but I say official self-appointed Jewish overlords. | ||
| I use the word official Jews, capital, yeah, capital J T M. And I'm thinking, no, no, I'm Jewish too, and you can't do that. | ||
| And I see through it because I'm Jewish and I know you don't speak for me. | ||
| So your your Jedi mind tricks don't work on me because I see your BS. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what you're actually doing, former senior Obama aide, is you are weaponizing the word anti-Semitism to silence critics of the left. | ||
| And like a knife that is dulled by overuse, when anti-Semitism finally does arrive, no one will believe you because you called every conservative anti Semitic. | ||
| Here, let's, if you don't mind, I'd love to play the list with volume up. | ||
| If you're I don't think I've I've ever actually two minutes long. | ||
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It's it's really worth it if you guys can play it for the uh your reporting at Davos. | |
| I definitely remember the Larry Fink one. | ||
| I don't know if I've ever seen this one. | ||
| Let's pull this one in. | ||
| Jonathan. | ||
| Can I ask you something? | ||
| I'll walk with you. | ||
| I you are you like that the boy who cried Wolf for so many years you you you cried anti-Semitism and you found hatred everywhere, and then what and then and then finally wouldn't. | ||
| And then Avi Mini from Rebel News. | ||
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What's Rebel News? | |
| Rebel News. | ||
| It doesn't matter, but finally now the when the world when the world has turned so anti-Semitic, no one believes us because of people like you and the work you've done over so many years. | ||
| Destroying our allies, making lists about our allies, people that actually defend us. | ||
| You've been a big part of that problem, haven't you? | ||
| Do you know the boy that cried Wolf? | ||
| I'm not familiar with this story. | ||
| Why don't you tell with this? | ||
| It's not a joke because the Jews around the world, we are feeling the pain, and you've alienated so many of our allies. | ||
| What about Elon Musk? | ||
| Somebody that's been so good. | ||
| Now you got a message for Elon. | ||
| Thank you, Jonathan. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Nothing to say. | ||
| Censorship in real life. | ||
| I bet you I'm going to be on a list tomorrow. | ||
| Jonathan Greenblatt is. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| That's extremely good. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I always refer to Jonathan Greenblatt. | ||
| I do I used to do it more where I would just refer to him as a different name because to me, it's like, you know, you read a headline, Jonathan Greenblatt condemns. | ||
| And it's like, it might as well say Michael Smith. | ||
| Like, who is this guy? | ||
| He's literally nobody. | ||
| He's condemning great. | ||
| What gets me is that he's doing it. | ||
| He's using my reputation, my name, my history, and thousands of years of history, he is pretending to the world that this is a Jewish project. | ||
| When I put it to you, it's a left-wing project using Judaism as the tactic. | ||
| And it's doubly effective. | ||
| It puts people of good faith on the back foot. | ||
| No, no, no, I'm not. | ||
| No, let me be defensive and explain to you that I'm not. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I I find it an odious uh approach. | ||
| And I there's other people out there that do things in the name of all Jews. | ||
| And and that's one of my messages to to viewers of InfoWars is can you please do me the personal favor as someone who's been in this battle, this information war for 35 years, and who shares your values of fighting against like look at us. | ||
| We're there in Davos scrumming these guys. | ||
| Like that's it's fun, but that's doing good work too. | ||
| You know, we're we're with the truckers and and then we crowdfunded their legal defense. | ||
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Right. | |
| We're in the UK with Tommy Robinson crowdfunding his legal defense when they try and silence him. | ||
| We do, you know, we we were really the only people who in a serious way oppose the COVID lockdowns in Canada. | ||
| So we're doing all the same things you're doing. | ||
| Can you do me the favor and judge me for who I am? | ||
| Rather than say, okay, you're a Jew and Greenblatt's a Jew, and Rabbi Schmooley is a Jew, therefore, I'm gonna so do me the one favor. | ||
| Don't say the Jews. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because it's not the Jews, it's some Jews, it's a Jew. | ||
| And I put it to you in some cases a Jew who's really turned off the Jewish, he flipped the switch off, hasn't been the synagogue since it's bar mitzvah. | ||
| You know, to him being Jewish is he has a bagel once in a while. | ||
| And like and it's because you're a question, what is a Jew? | ||
| If someone is uh vestigial Jew, a a an ex-Jew, a lapsed Jew. | ||
| Are they s do I still have to bear some of the communal guilt? | ||
| Like Jeffrey Epstein, one of the worst people that that anyone has ever heard of. | ||
| How I cursed the fact that his name is Epstein. | ||
| And did what was what he was doing essentially Jewish in character? | ||
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No. | |
| It was um it was a honey trap. | ||
| It was it was an extortion racket that clearly was linked to different intelligence agencies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And but do I have to pay the price for that because he's a Jew? | ||
| I can't tell you how badly I hate the fact that he's a Jew. | ||
| But as I said to Alex earlier today, you look at Anthony Fauci, AOC, Nancy Pelosi, no one says, look what the Catholics are. | ||
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Right. | |
| They just wouldn't say that. | ||
| Because there's Catholic, because you also got Anthony's Anthony and Scadalia, and you got like there's for every Catholic on the left, there's a Catholic on the right, some on the very right. | ||
| And so no one would ever say those Catholics, the Catholics. | ||
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I mean, some people would say that, but yeah, you should hear some of our callers, sure. | |
| There is some, yeah. | ||
| There is some anti-Catholic bigotry, and there's some anti-Protestant bigotry, and I don't get it. | ||
| But I don't, but but I think that that's a little nutty. | ||
| And well, uh I would I'd say I'd say it's a little bit different because uh you know the AOC AOC doesn't often predicate what she's doing on her Catholicness, which is what Jonathan Greenblatt does. | ||
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Right. | |
| But neither didn't used to be speaking for Greenblatt's the worst of them all. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because I know he's it's like and I silly because it's not it's like totally unfair to to relate you to Jonathan Greenblatt. | ||
| So I just feel never Epstein never said I'm a Jew, Jew, Jew, Juju Ju doo. | ||
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Right. | |
| What I'm doing is Jewey Jewy Jewy. | ||
| He never does that. | ||
| Well, that's well, that's where it intersects with Israel being a foreign state with its own intelligence operations that you know is is obviously considers itself a uh a Jewish state. | ||
| And actually, I think that again, when it gets to sort of the the frustrations that we're seeing sort of bubble over on the internet right now. | ||
| I think a lot of it has to do with sort of inconsistency or hypocrisies that we see, not even from Jewish people, but from people uh from right wingers, you know, i in uh in Congress. | ||
| It's almost like Israel gives them this license to be hardcore about something, but they'll never do it for Americans, right? | ||
| When it comes to Israel, it's like where you're just gonna go kill everybody. | ||
| We're gonna, you know, I'm talking about Lindsay Graham or Ted Cruz. | ||
| It's like something about Israel gives them the license to go hardcore and and almost be, you know, support an ethno state, support identity, where everywhere else and everywhere else it's it's interacted, it's oh well, we can't do that, and well, let's let's walk carefully here. | ||
| It's like, well, they never feel that way with Israel. | ||
| So there's a there's an inconsistency there that again, I think I think grates on people. | ||
| It grates on me because I see so much being done for Israel by our federal government that they will never do for us. | ||
| So there's you know what I mean? | ||
| I don't know what you mean. | ||
| So I'd like you to unpack that last sentence. | ||
| I will. | ||
| I see So many things that our government is doing for Israel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Give me a list of three. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| So one uh primary example would be like the university presidents being pressured and and some of them being fired. | ||
| I think is that Israel that's doing that? | ||
| Well, yeah, well, it's it's it's because they wouldn't crack down on anti-Israel protests on their campuses. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So university presidents and what's number two? | ||
| Uh the TikTok ban would be another one. | ||
| I think uh I don't think TikTok. | ||
| What's the TikTok ban? | ||
| I think TikTok uh was banned because there was a lot of uh anti-Israel content going out, and they now have uh IDF uh soldier sort of overseeing them and you know, as uh as Alex was talking about the Bibi Nanyahoo thing, calling it an eighth front. | ||
| Okay, and what's the third thing? | ||
| Uh third thing would be like uh protecting uh our border versus you know sending weapons to Israel and how you know willing we are like you'll have the same people in our uh in our government say it's immoral to close the border, we have to allow people in, but they're you know hardcore about uh you know Israel's border. | ||
| I'm gonna add a fourth one, which is the three billion dollars a year in military aid to Israel. | ||
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Trevor Burrus, Jr. | |
| Well, I don't like that either. | ||
| But but it's more it's more about okay, we for a decade have been going, hey, these universities are teaching anti-white stuff. | ||
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Right. | |
| They've got entire classes called, you know, the problem with whiteness and how to eradicate it. | ||
| We can never even get a congressman to even acknowledge us, let alone do something. | ||
| Then when it becomes, oh, there's anti, you know, there's pro-Palestine protest on the campus, it suddenly the federal government is like gonna shut the school down if they don't immediately do something. | ||
| And so again, it's not even it's like it's almost like if we were getting everything we want and that was happening, I wouldn't have a problem with it. | ||
| It's the inconsistency of the federal government when it comes to serving the American people, ah, our hands are tied, gee, we'd love to, but just we can't. | ||
| And then when it comes to something Israel wants, it's like boom, it's done. | ||
| Because TikTok's another good example. | ||
| Trump's first administration, they tried a TikTok ban, didn't go anywhere, it didn't even, I don't even think it went to a vote. | ||
| Nothing happened. | ||
| Uh then you've got Nikki Haley going up and saying f every 15 minutes you spend on TikTok, you're 30% more anti-Semitic or whatever it was. | ||
| And it's like TikTok gets banned two weeks later. | ||
| So uh again, it's it's not even necessarily the things that are happening, it's the discrepancy between the speed and power with which the federal government will move when it comes to Israel's benefit, you know, something that benefits Israel, but when it comes to Americans, we we cannot get any benefits out of our government. | ||
| Trevor Burrus, Jr. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've got thoughts on all four of those, if I may. | ||
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Sure. | |
| The first is on the university president. | ||
| I'm surprised, you know, and I I never heard of that phrase as an Israel favor before. | ||
| I mean, there is anti-Semitism on campuses, and in my observation, it's in substantial part from foreign students, not can not American citizens, but foreigners. | ||
| And I think that this is a two-fold thing. | ||
| I think this is how to get those deportation numbers up. | ||
| And frankly, being pro-Hamas, I put it to you. | ||
| I mean, that is anti-Jewish, and I suppose it is anti-Israel, obviously. | ||
| But it's also a proxy for being anti-Western. | ||
| And I mean, there's been uh some of these people who are it who have been caught up in this drag net. | ||
| I mean, could you have a blatantly anti-black protest at a campus that got federal funds? | ||
| Like if it was just as anti-black as these are anti-Jewish. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| But I I saw that as a way for the White House to get foreign nationals who are here to undermine and like basically foreign radicals to get them out. | ||
| Didn't apply to American citizens. | ||
| I sort of like that just as a deportation move of getting Hamas types out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I I don't I never thought of it as a favorite Israel. | ||
| I thought of it as a way to get the radicals out of these schools. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe maybe you you you're saying I'm not disputing what you're saying. | ||
| I mean, it didn't feel like an Israel move. | ||
| It felt like a get the bad people out of America move. | ||
| Well, with the with the Harvard one, it was even before that because it, you know, they predicated on her, you know, being a DEI supporter or uh plagiarizing or something, but you know, it's that's sort of just the excuse, but really it was, you know, because they wouldn't crack down the Palestinian protest. | ||
| And like, you know, I think it wasn't really the Palestinian protest, is was it uh anti-Jewish? | ||
| And there's a different thing. | ||
| And and and you say, well, look at my my pleading, special pleading for the Jews. | ||
| No, if it was like I I I have to believe, but I do believe that if the kind of crazy anti-Jewish stuff that I mean, I went to Columbia to check it out. | ||
| I went to another Fashion Institute of Technology in New York when it happened there. | ||
| Like I went to some of these schools. | ||
| It was I went to University of Toronto, my own Country. | ||
| They was crazy. | ||
| And I thought to myself, what if they swapped in the word black for Jews or Israel? | ||
| Would that be allowed? | ||
| Well, and I don't think so. | ||
| Like I think that would be a National Guard moment. | ||
| Well, you know, I I agree with you, but what if they swiped the word Jew for white? | ||
| I think it would still be federal funds and nobody would care. | ||
| But I'm with you on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I So again, it's it, you know, like I said, it's not even necessarily that's like, why is the government doing this for them? | ||
| It's like, why can we not get anything done for us when Israel can get so much? | ||
| I think the Trump administration is going absolutely full tilt against DEI. | ||
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| So the same so the same administration that's going after Columbia and Harvard for their anti-Jewish, I think it does violate civil rights. | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| They're also going after DEI. | ||
| They're also going after Harvard on admissions. | ||
| So I think they are. | ||
| I mean, would you I mean you're the American here? | ||
| Would you not agree that Trump has been like I think he even uses like having even the symbolic boar farmers from South Africa come as refugees? | ||
| Like Yeah, that was that was amazing. | ||
| That was a good thing. | ||
| Don't you think that's symbolic of this administration? | ||
| So uh again, I think this is this is one of the things I see because like Avi Yemeni, amazing video we just saw. | ||
| I've always been a big fan of him. | ||
| He's very fearless and just goes sort of right into the lion's den. | ||
| I I really appreciate and respect that. | ||
| Uh, but you know, I've seen him in Australia uh sort of you know trying to argue against or or stand up against the national I guess they're the national socialist there, whoever it is. | ||
| And I feel like there's a lot of times where white people in particular, Christians, Native, you know, Americans and Europeans want to stand up for themselves against the Muslim immigration against you know being swamped, and a lot of times it's Jewish people that are going, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're we're going down a dangerous road here, Nazism lies at the end of it. | ||
| And and so then they're I know I know Abi pretty well, and I think he shares my view against immigration. | ||
| I I think there were some actual Nazis there. | ||
| That route, if it's the same rally, and if it's the same rally we're talking about, the one that happened about a month ago, that was a pro-Australia anti-immigration rally. | ||
| It was an anti-immigration rally. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it was a mass rally, and then there were like 15 Nazis who on this one occasion didn't have their armbands, so they could sort of sneak in and say this is our big event, and they actually managed to get some press. | ||
| Oh my God, the Nazis have a hundred thousand people. | ||
| No, they had 12, and they were driven out by the others. | ||
| I I don't think Rebel News or me or Avi could possibly be called open borders or like I just think you may have misapprehended. | ||
| Well, so so then how do like Europeans advocate for themselves without like uh you know you don't have to be a Nazi to call for the end of immigration? | ||
| Well, but it but if you you know are explicitly saying we are white, we we want we want to live around white people, that is interpreted as a Nazi. | ||
| Well, I mean, I suppose you have to you know be thoughtful about your wording. | ||
| I was I I've been in Ireland a half dozen times in the last year and a half. | ||
| It's an amazing country, it's a very small country, five million souls. | ||
| Uh and I I love using the phrase indigenous Irish because they've been there for centuries. | ||
| Literally what they are, yeah. | ||
| And it mass immigration is happening so quickly that how could it be taken as anything but replacement migration? | ||
| And I just threw out a document here, or where did I have it? | ||
| That's not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| It's on the UN, yeah, it's a 21-page thing. | ||
| Yeah, it's an actual like it's a thing. | ||
| And and by the way, leftist politicians often boast of it as a thing. | ||
| And there's different I I guess there's different ways in in saying it. | ||
| And you have to be thoughtful and you have to win people over. | ||
| I was in Ireland, and then I was in the midst of a uh protest of 30,000 people against mass immigration. | ||
| Not a single media organization supported them, not a single mainstream political party supported them, and yet 30,000 in a country the size of Ireland is quite something to see. | ||
| I did bump into one actual Nazi there. | ||
| I don't know if you've got to be. | ||
| I think I saw I've seen that video, yeah. | ||
| And I don't want to talk to you. | ||
| And I just went right up to him because the police were picking on some guy. | ||
| I had no idea who it was. | ||
| I go up to him and say, what did the police have to say to you? | ||
| I don't talk to Jews. | ||
| You know, it's actually a hell of a hella video if your friends want to pull it up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And I just what? | |
| And I did I know, yeah. | ||
| So I thought you had stuff what you're just like. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like I was there as an ally of like I was there to give our rebel news is, you know, we got 1.8 million YouTube subscribers. | ||
| It's not as big as you guys, but we're big-ish, and they didn't have any media coverage. | ||
| And I'm and I regard, I'm I don't know a lot about Ireland, but I'm learning. | ||
| So I go there as a friend, and I got a hundred people just really happy to see me. | ||
| And this one guy who actually said he was a national socialist. | ||
| I don't talk to Jews. | ||
| The Jews have done no fa Buddy. | ||
| I'm just like, for God's sakes, it's not, it's like I was saying to Alex, it's like the Rohr Shack Inc. | ||
| Jews, Jews, Jews, It's not always a Jewish thing. | ||
| I just came over. | ||
| In fact, I was out of concern. | ||
| Like the cops had zeroed in on this guy, and I I'm a free speech guy, and I I was like, what were they picking you on? | ||
| All right, you Jew. | ||
| I mean, so my point to you is maybe don't be so frickin' crazy. | ||
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| And this guy thinks that the Irish are at any time gonna rise up and support him and make him their Fuhrer or something. | ||
| No, they're not, because you're an idiot. | ||
| And how about just be smarter about it? | ||
| Let me quickly go to your other issues. | ||
| TikTok. | ||
| You know, until five minutes ago, TikTok was controlled by China, which controls the algorithm. | ||
| I just wish some of the folks who are squawking today um would show one percent the outrage when it was owned by communist China. | ||
| Um and I guess my last point, which I made, not you. | ||
| Oh, you know, you talked about double standard about being hardcore. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| So you wish that the American immigration system and citizenship process was as hardcore as Israel's is in terms of is that what you're saying? | ||
| Or not no military stuff? | ||
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No. | |
| Because I think you might be cute confusing Ukraine because Rush, America's given an enormous amount of weaponry to Ukraine, and um, and there's some senators who seem very excited about fighting Russia. | ||
| And I and I'm not taking I'm not expressing a viewpoint on that war. | ||
| I'm just saying, like Lindsay Graham and the and the the late John McCain, that they were almost elated about a conflict. | ||
| They see it as a way to trap Russia in a proxy war. | ||
| Maybe maybe they're right. | ||
| But the reason I added Israel's three billion dollars of aid a year is because for that three billion dollars of aid, America does has no military base in Israel. | ||
| Um there are military bases in Qatar, that's the largest base in the Middle East, $10 billion a year the American taxpayers spend on it. | ||
| The U.S. taxpayers spent about $50 billion a year patrolling the Persian Gulf Sea Lakes. | ||
| Who's that for? | ||
| That's for the oil-producing Sunni Muslim countries. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's not for the Jews. | ||
| Um, there's American bases around the world. | ||
| Like, oh, Israel gets the most military aid, really, more than Germany, which is 40 U.S. bases. | ||
| I guess it's more like, you know, it my complaint is more like somebody like Ben Shapiro who makes his whole brand being uh against identity politics, but when it comes to Israel, he's like, it must be a Jewish nation forever. | ||
| And it's like, okay, that is that's a hypocrisy there. | ||
| That that's about 50 countries in the world that have an ethnicity hard or religion hardwired in their constitution. | ||
| Most of them are Muslim. | ||
| It won't surprise you to hear. | ||
| Um, but there are some Christian countries, Greece is one of them, Armenia is one of them, even the United Kingdom. | ||
| Um, the Church of England is part of their state. | ||
| There is no separation between church and state. | ||
| The king is the head of the uh church. | ||
| Yeah, he's still the Pope, yeah. | ||
| And so I I think that it is okay and it is normal to have an ethnicity. | ||
| Now you want to think about that, like Suela Braverman, who's this conservative anti-immigration former cabinet minister in the UK. | ||
| She had a very interesting tweet today. | ||
| Maybe your friends could find it. | ||
| She said, I'm not English. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I'm a proud British Asian. | ||
| I thought, isn't that interesting? | ||
| Because of course she's not indigenous English. | ||
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Right. | |
| From the Angles and the Saxons and the Normans and the Of course, okay. | ||
| She's saying something that's obvious. | ||
| It's not shocking. | ||
| She's a brown woman. | ||
| So of course she's not indigenous English, but she's something. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Oh, this is can I you want to see just a minute? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing. | ||
| This is the little Nazi I bummed. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| And I tell you, I promise you, I went, I was bored. | ||
| We were waiting for this huge protest to start. | ||
| We had just missed uh Connor McGregor, who had been there. | ||
| We just missed him, and we were all milling around waiting for this giant rally to start. | ||
| I had no clue who this who this pint-sized guy was. | ||
| I saw the cops going over there looking menacing, and I was sympathetic. | ||
| And I walk up. | ||
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Can you just play a minute or we'll go to that because we got to go to commercial breaks? | |
| We meant it. | ||
| We meant to go to calling. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| Shut up, let's take the cost. | ||
| Let's take the calls. | ||
| Well, we got to go to break. | ||
| We got a 30-second break, then we're going to be back on the other side. | ||
| Well, we'll do that on the other side of uh this short commercial break. | ||
| And remember to go to the alexjones store.com. | ||
| You're not getting conversations uh like this anywhere else in the world, folks. | ||
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| Please won't you help us by going to the Alex Jones Store.com. | ||
| We'll be right back on the other side more with Ezra Levant, Rebelnews.com. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
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We'll be back. | |
| All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Second hour with Ezra Ezra Levant. | ||
| I don't know why I can't say her name. | ||
| Ezra Levant. | ||
| It's the R and the L. I mix I mix them up. | ||
| Ezra Levant is here in studio with us. | ||
| Rebelnews.com is where you can go to find all of his incredible work. | ||
| And it really is incredible. | ||
| And again, I, you know, I'm glad we're having this conversation. | ||
| I really feel like these conversations are necessary because when you go on the internet, it just becomes this divisive thing where half the time being pressured by Nazis, half time being pressured by Jews, and I'm just like, I'm trying to get to the truth here, and I'm trying to try to figure out the way forward. | ||
| But before we go out to calls, because I do want to go out to co calls right now. | ||
| Like one thing I see is I think Israel is really going down a bad slope right now. | ||
| I mean, they got all the EU turning against them, you know, claiming that or you know, claiming they're going to recognize Palestine, stopping weapon shipments. | ||
| Uh a lot of the American populace, especially the young people are turned against Israel now. | ||
| I mean, I sort of struggle to see how they regain their footing after this, because I think what's gone on in Gaza has been so horrifying to people, and the videos have come out so regularly for so long. | ||
| I mean, you know, in the early on, I was going, hey, Israel should not be doing this. | ||
| You know, they're bombing hospitals and churches or you know, schools. | ||
| This isn't good. | ||
| Uh I got called an anti-Semite then, but now we are, you know, nearly two years down the road, and it's like, yeah, this is not, it's not going well for Israel right now. | ||
| I mean, how do you how do you take that criticism? | ||
| Now you mean not of you, obviously, but of Israel and and uh they uh how they represent the Jewish people on the world stage or claim to. | ||
| Now I don't live in Israel. | ||
| Right an Israeli, of course, but I do pay a little bit of attention to what they say about this. | ||
| So maybe I I can try and answer um for maybe the different viewpoint from let's say Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, which is so you said it's not going well at all. | ||
| So in the last two years, there was the massacre of October 7th, which was terrible, and then the psychic stress of having these hostages underground. | ||
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| Terrible. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| Um Europe has become even more anti-Israel. | ||
| I'm not sure what it means to recognize a country. | ||
| So far, none of them I I saw Spain had was talking about moving its diplomats, and Israel said, okay, if you're having Palestinian diplomats, they have to be in Ramallah, and none of the Spanish diplomats wanted to leave Israel to go move to a really I've been to Ramallah. | ||
| It's not uh a diplomat-friendly place. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what does it mean when Canada, my country, recognizes Palestine? | ||
| So who's the leader? | ||
| Who's the who's what's the constitution? | ||
| What are the borders? | ||
| Like what does it mean other than it's uh the ultimate virtue signal? | ||
| I mean, you know it's I no, I think I think that's what it is. | ||
| I think it's a signal, yeah. | ||
| But from Israel's point of view, you might hear this. | ||
| Okay, so Iran has lost a lot of their generals, has had a lot of their ICBMs nuked, or not nuked, destroyed, and had their nuclear program set back, if not eliminated. | ||
| Hezbollah, which was uh actually probably the most dangerous force of all, a hundred thousand rockets, completely decapitated in what could only be called a miraculous move of espionage, like the pagers, and then the the precise bombing of their lead. | ||
| Like that was without a fight. | ||
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| And Hezbollah retreating from Lebanon and Hamas has been decimated. | ||
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Now I you can it's still alive. | |
| But all these threats against Israel have been smashed. | ||
| And the the the big risk being from Iran. | ||
| So I think, yes, diplomatically, politically, it hasn't gone well if your measurement is how is it looking online? | ||
| It's looking really bad online, online, online. | ||
| And you and I spent an enormous amount of time online. | ||
| But they're living real life stuff now, and I think militarily Israel's never been stronger. | ||
| And then what happened yesterday at the White House? | ||
| Netanyahu agreed that if Hamas really does pack up shop, Israel will remove itself in stages and there will be a new kind of Gaza there. | ||
| Now, I don't think it's gonna happen because I think Hamas is relentless. | ||
| I think they really are like Nazis with the religious layer on top of it too. | ||
| So I I think that there's some uh pie in the sky. | ||
| Who knows, maybe Qatar can wrangle them. | ||
| But if that comes to pass, if the war ends, if an attempt to replicate Dubai is made in Gaza. | ||
| How has Israel not won in every meaningful way? | ||
| I mean Oh shoot. | ||
| Sorry, we're going to break we'll be right back. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Welcome back, folks. | ||
| Uh big thank you to Ezra Levant for staying with us for two hours. | ||
| We're gonna go on two hours. | ||
| He was with Alex for like over an hour, so thank you so much for for staying with us. | ||
| And we're gonna go directly out to your calls and uh and just hear directly from the audience and we'll go whoever called in first. | ||
| First we'll go to Jay in Ohio who's been holding for a while is this uh is this Jay our our truck driver friend yes. | ||
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How are you doing Jay you're on the air Jewish truck driver. | |
| Our Jewish truck driver friend, yes sir. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Shana Tova. | ||
| I know I'm a little late and I hope Young Kipper comes better. | ||
| I did have a question. | ||
| I went to a dinner there for Rosh Hashanah, and I'm a bit of a rebel, and I wore a black InfoWars shirt there with the black letters on it and an InfoWars hat. | ||
| I had a yarmulke underneath. | ||
| But anyways, I'm a little bit of a rebel. | ||
| And we were sitting there, and I was asked if I was an infomercial, you know, for somebody, you know, advertising for InfoWars. | ||
| And I said, no, but I like InfoWars. | ||
| wars and there are people there that did and the rabbi is pretty cool and anyways um there was a guy there and I I've been meaning to ask the rabbi um there was a man that he had like a a swath sticker on on t on a button on his lapel and he was an older gentleman and he had like uh different medals and whatnot and he was an older guy. | ||
| I I I thought Alex might have been able to give a little history on that or Ezra on on the swath sticker and how it pertained I mean this was an orthodox event and I felt a little uh like what what is what is this guy doing here with this this swath sticker on his lapel. | ||
| What? | ||
| And then the the other thing go ahead. | ||
| No no you go ahead. | ||
| Okay then the other thing was you mentioned uh Tucker and you know the the the guy that the man at the table we were sitting at he says I'll bet you like Tucker Carlson I said yeah I do like Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Oh he's an anti Semite. | ||
| Well I've seen you on his program and I've seen a lot of his you know I I follow Tucker on X and and I've seen a lot of his um interviews. | ||
| I must say, I listen to Alex's program 10 hours a day most days because I'm on the road. | ||
| But I when so when I went home that night just for ha ha's, I put on the interview of the what he spoke about on Charlie Kirk about eating hummus. | ||
| And, you know, and they and they they they they killed Jesus. | ||
| Well, no offense to anybody, but anytime I hear Jesus, I just recognize growing up where I where I grew up. | ||
| up that's God you know but but it's just a different name Hashem uh I I don't know I you know whatever you want to call God and I I only believe of course because I'm Jewish in one God and and I I don't see that I need to go through so how did you so how did you feel about about Tucker's comments when you saw them well I watched it and to be honest with you know everybody ate hummus back then. | ||
| I mean the the Arabs, the Jews and you know and I still eat hummus and I love it. | ||
| So but you know he was kind of you know what I felt I felt like you know I felt I I can I can relate and understand how the man I was sitting with didn't particularly care the way he put the blame on the Jews for killing Jesus but I I in my belief my understanding there's one God and and and I got nothing against Jesus. | ||
| If you want to believe in Jesus I say God bless good luck. | ||
| Well thank thank you thank you for the call Jay uh you know we always we always appreciate your calls and uh and of course Jay is w is one of uh you know our many Jewish audience members that uh you know I think about any time we talk about Jews in the recognition that hey there are people listening to me right now that agree with me and don't deserve to be lumped in with the likes of any of any of the the bad people bad people you'd like to name like Jonathan Greenblatt. | ||
| What did you think? | ||
| Because I I sort of under I I maybe maybe I'm being naive or missing the the dog whistle or whatever, but I sort of understood what Tucker was saying as just purely about what a terrible idea it was to think that killing somebody would stop their ideas in the sense that you think you're going to kill Jesus and that'll be that, and you know, by Monday everybody will have forgotten, and 2,000 years later we're still counting, you know, the years by from when he was born. | ||
| So that's how I understood it, but I could also understand how it could be a uh a dog whistle of sorts. | ||
| From as I said to Alex earlier today, for many years Tucker Carlson was my absolute hero. | ||
| I I count appearing on his show a few times as some career highlights. | ||
| I really looked up to him in many ways. | ||
| But you know, enough facts have presented that my theory about him has to change. | ||
| And I don't understand why he has changed his compass. | ||
| A crass accusation would be cash. | ||
| I find that hard to believe because I think he's wealthy and I I don't think he's I mean, he's enough that he doesn't need to be greedy. | ||
| Is that I don't know what it is. | ||
| Is it revenge against someone who treated him poorly, whether that's the Murdochs or whether it's I don't know. | ||
| I cannot calculate, I cannot make sense of why Tucker has now taken like the other day I saw him talk about Sharia law. | ||
| I don't know if you saw that clip. | ||
| And he said, look on the streets of um forget which Arab country he was referring to, and he said, you know, it's safe, you don't have to lock your car, women aren't raped. | ||
| Who wouldn't want that? | ||
| Well, yeah, brother, that's like maybe one aspect of Sharia law, but actually that be that's because women can't go out under their without being totally covered and without their male guardian there. | ||
| Like there's a lot of real obvious arguments against that, but Tucker knows that. | ||
| I've seen Tucker rail against that. | ||
| How can you make a 180-degree shift? | ||
| And that's why I'm very troubled by it, is because I'm a I'm uh the original Tucker super fan who now is I'm shaken in my faith in him. | ||
| And I don't want to call him an anti-Semmon. | ||
| I hate throwing that around casually, but because I've seen so many things that make me raise an eyebrow, when I saw that comment, I thought, why are you at the moment there burying this man in front of his widow, making an implication that the Jews did it because there's all these wild accusations that Israel did it. | ||
| And and some of the accusations are completely baseless, Candace Owens saying. | ||
| I know his final thoughts in the letter. | ||
| Well, the letter to Benjamin Natanya was finally released. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I I mean Candace is someone else that I sort of looked up to, but she's gone totally cuckoo. | ||
| Like she's saying there's not even such a thing as Jews there. | ||
| Frank is and this, like I just like I feel like the woman is reading Wikipedia for an hour at night and then stretches it another standard deviation and then speaks it with great like I I don't know what the hell is going on there. | ||
| And that's one of the reasons I wanted to go come on Alex's show, because I know that in my one hour with him and my two hours with you, I'm not gonna convert any Semites into Jew lovers. | ||
| I'm not gonna change people's mind in a deep way. | ||
| It would be impossible to do so, and I would be a fool to try. | ||
| But I am trying to leave two ideas out there, and you've heard me say them a few times. | ||
| One is don't make the mistake of the left in imputing a collective guilt or a collective mindset. | ||
| Jews, as we just had a Jewish Alex Jones supporter, a big-time Alex Jones supporter, going to a Jewish event, decked out head to toe in Alex Jones swag. | ||
| That's uh uh beautiful thing. | ||
| That's a 10 out of 10 Alex Jones supporter. | ||
| How can you say that man is cut from the same cloth as Alex Soros? | ||
| On paper, they're both Jews. | ||
| But now he he used the word, I don't know if you heard it, he said Russia Shana. | ||
| That's the Jewish word for how so he was saying a few things about it's a Jewish high holiday. | ||
| I don't think Alex Jones even knows, sorry, I don't think Alex Soros even knows how to say those words. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So can you really say take the sins of George and Alex Soros and put them on that friendly trucker? | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| And to do so is to offend one of the key values of our side of the argument, which is to treat people as individuals. | ||
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| Listen, I know that Jews on the whole tilt liberal. | ||
| I'm not dumb. | ||
| Just like blacks and Hispanics do. | ||
| But, you know, take people as they come. | ||
| And I've lived my life as a freedom fighter in a in a smaller footprint than Alex, Jones, but I I feel a camaraderie. | ||
| And so I want anyone who's watching In good faith to use that one device is don't say the Jews, because it wasn't all the Jews, and it may not have even been a Jewish impulse. | ||
| It could have just been a Jew by coincidence. | ||
| And the second thing is do not use the Jews did it, Israel did it, as an excuse for everything else. | ||
| And with great respect, I think you did that a tiny bit today too. | ||
| And here's what I mean. | ||
| How come Israel gets all this support from U.S. senators and America we can't do the same thing? | ||
| How come Israel is allowed to have maybe an ethnic policy, but America isn't? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What are you doing about? | ||
| It's your country. | ||
| That that little Nazi I bumped into in Ireland basically said the Jews have brought the downfall of Ireland. | ||
| There are 2,000 Jews in Ireland of a country of five million. | ||
| It's not even.1%. | ||
| There has not been a Jew in the Irish Parliament in over a decade. | ||
| If there is a problem in Ireland, which there is, and I love Ireland, and I want Ireland to fix his problems. | ||
| I want Ireland to stop the deracination of its own people. | ||
| It breaks my heart, the de-irishing of that country. | ||
| And I say this as a foreigner. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But for him to say the Jews did it. | ||
| No, brother. | ||
| A parliament of Irishmen did it. | ||
| And he oh, but the Jews are pulling the strings. | ||
| Are they really? | ||
| If so, can you not have a vote in your parliament? | ||
| Like at what point, how Jew-free does your country have to be before you can say, you know what? | ||
| Maybe we opened the door. | ||
| It wasn't the Jews. | ||
| Well, I'll just, you know, to play devil's advocate here, the the argument is like, well, we have the ADL training our FBI, and they say that, you know, it's it's not that, oh, Nazis are bad. | ||
| They say, you know, signs that say it's okay to be white are bad. | ||
| So we have this institutional force that is suppressing the ability of you know native white Christian people to take their own side. | ||
| And that is another thing that I I don't even, it's not even that I'm like, oh, I want to be like Israel or like they get to have it and we don't, and that's not fair. | ||
| It's there's something about it that when it comes to Republicans, they have been trained, you know, like Pavlovian, it's like you know, they're like dogs, they like cannot support Americans, especially not when it comes to like they I mean they stripped Steve King of his uh you know committee meetings because he was like, yeah, white people aren't that bad, what's the big deal? | ||
| And you know, the Republicans lead the charge on stripping him of his uh committee meeting. | ||
| So it's are Jews white or not. | ||
| Well, I don't I don't know. | ||
| Well, what do you think? | ||
| Do I look white to you? | ||
| Uh well, you you look white, like you look like if it was a if it was a dichotomy between you know black and white, I think uh or you know, not white and white. | ||
| Are there any so are there is it just the Jews who are doing this anti-white thing? | ||
| Because I know I don't do the anti-white. | ||
| No, and there's a lot of white people that are anti-white. | ||
| And is there anyone else, of course? | ||
| But but again, like what are the political press? | ||
| So so the Jews. | ||
| Yeah, I listen, we've already agreed that the ADL are the bad guys. | ||
| I've shown you the proof of our team in action exposing that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um I think that everyone has to find their courage. | ||
| I'm a nationalist populist. | ||
| And by the way, that applies to the Jews too. | ||
| The Jews have a historical homeland. | ||
| Look, read the Bible. | ||
| Uh the Jews also won it through a grant from the United Nations. | ||
| The Jews also won it in a series of wars. | ||
| That's three ways the Jews own Israel. | ||
| Now you could argue about the borders, and that's being done. | ||
| By the way, to answer your question from half an hour ago, I think if this peace deal sticks, Israel would be in a in a in a golden age because this political, military, terrorist soar will be over. | ||
| Wouldn't it be something if it was the new Dubai? | ||
| Iran has been taken down a notch. | ||
| There's a reason why United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia are warm to Israel because they were worried about Iran. | ||
| And they also want to move forward from this hate. | ||
| You know, I saw an interesting post by Dominic Cummings that senior people in the UAE say, don't send your kids to London to go to school because they'll come back radicalized. | ||
| They ban the Muslim Brotherhood in the UA. | ||
| And like half the people that fought for ISIS were literally from Europe. | ||
| It was like a training ground. | ||
| I was in, I went to Iraq, I went to the Nineveh Plain. | ||
| We crowdfunded some money to get some Christians out of there because they were being persecuted by ISIS, and then the the next Iranian Islamic terrorist group called Hash Fel Shabi. | ||
| So I went over there, and I was in this tiny town called um oh I forget it, it's such a tiny, it it means house of dirt. | ||
| Uh I'm trying to remember how to say that in Arabic. | ||
| And I went into a church, because these were all Christian towns that ISIS had come in and spray painted with a stencil on the wall, basically get out, convert or die. | ||
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Right. | |
| And in the church, ISIS had snapped every cross. | ||
| Like they made a point of breaking every single cross. | ||
| They went to the cemetery and broke all the crosses there. | ||
| Here's what shocked me. | ||
| The graffiti in this church, do you know what language it was in? | ||
| It was in German. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because the terrorists who had gone to to this buttons, I forget the name of that town. | ||
| I can't say it now. | ||
| We're from Europe. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Their first language was German. | ||
| And they had come to build this caliphate. | ||
| And imagine if Germany and France and England are more radical than the UAE, which is very much true. | ||
| Jews walk around the UAE. | ||
| Spoke to a rabbi in Dubai. | ||
| He says he has more hassle on the streets of New York. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then in Dubai. | ||
| How's that even possible? | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| So to answer your question, I think there's hope in the Middle East. | ||
| And I'm extremely online too. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But there's more than just the echo chamber. | ||
| There's reality on the ground. | ||
| And sometimes, by the way, countries put out statements for political consumption. | ||
| And the Arab states have to tip their hat to Palestine. | ||
| And of course they're upset by the images of innocence being caught in a war. | ||
| Of course they are. | ||
| But they also know, and there's a reason that not a single Arab state has taken Palestinian refugees. | ||
| There's a reason for that, my friend. | ||
| And uh I think that there's a chance with this Trump peace deal to actually have a regional peace. | ||
| He'll never get a Nobel Prize for it. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| Um I would just say, you know, it's like when you say, like, well, why don't you, you know, well, you vote, you know, or you're getting your parliaments, it's your people doing it. | ||
| Again, I just think there's there's this institutional push that is driven by organizations like the ADL that I know we don't like, but you know, they couch their their actions on, you know, being representative of uh of Jewish people. | ||
| So again, I think there's a frustration. | ||
| Okay, besides the ADL, who says there's APAC would be another one that they pack is uh an anti-white organization? | ||
| Well, you tell me one thing they've done at anti-white. | ||
| I'm not an expert of APAC, I'm not a member. | ||
| Well, again, it's not it's not that they well, I'm I'm sure I could find something, but it's not that necessarily a lot of people. | ||
| I acknowledge that the well, I hate the ADL because they hijacked the word Jewish and weaponize it. | ||
| We agree on that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| APAC to me is just uh one of a gazillion lobby groups and PACs trying to move legislation in America. | ||
| I've never heard of them being accused of being anti-white before. | ||
| Well, again, you you've got, you know, Thomas Massey saying that everybody's got an APAC handler, and and we see the way that sort of what Israel like when Benjamin Anyahoo walks into Congress, he gets a standing ovation from both sides of the aisle. | ||
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Right. | |
| So it it does it feels like, okay, how can we not no American president will ever get loyalty from both sides of the aisle, but the Israeli president commands is uh loyalty from both sides of the aisle. | ||
| So again, it's not even it's not in the Zelensky has Zelensky ever spoken. | ||
| Yeah, he probably he probably would too. | ||
| Okay, so and I again I'm trying because you're being categorical, no one else. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I can think of a few. | ||
| Well, no, no, I'm I'm I'm saying no American president. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You know what? | ||
| I I want to tell you something I did when I was a teenager. | ||
| I actually attended one APAC meeting. | ||
| I think I was 17. | ||
| And so I think I know exactly what Thomas Massey's talking about. | ||
| Can I tell you a little bit about my one visit to an APAC conference? | ||
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Sure. | |
| So I was a teenager and uh and I came to Washington, it was very excited. | ||
| I was a Canadian, so I don't know what I was doing. | ||
| But um I was assigned because I was from Calgary, I was assigned to the group from I think it was Oregon. | ||
| So basically you had a couple thousand Jews coming to Washington to learn about Israel issues, and then they had a lobby day where everyone was directed to the congressman or senator in their region. | ||
| So if you have a 2,000 Jews from across America, okay, you ten go to this congressman, you go to that one. | ||
| And one of those people would be, they wouldn't use the word handler. | ||
| That word is chosen because it sounds like you're a paid minder. | ||
| There was someone who would sort of volunteer and be, yeah, I'll be the contact. | ||
| I'll be the one who reminds our congressman that in his district there's a thousand Jews, or to remind him that in his district or people care this way. | ||
| That's what Massey means by a handler. | ||
| Well, so it's not that it's not a Mossai. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| It's not an American citizen, yeah. | ||
| And my memory, it's now 38 years ago when I went as a teenager, and I remember I was with the Oregon delegation because for some reason. | ||
| It was a it was like a mom or a dad who they were really excited and a little nervous, and they sort of agreed that once in a while they would send an email and that's what a handler is. | ||
| The way Massey talks about it. | ||
| It's like some massage spy. | ||
| Well, it's well, it's but it's also the way APAC talks. | ||
| But you know, APA will put up a thing going on. | ||
| Of course, you know, 99% of our candidates got got elected. | ||
| And why would they say that? | ||
| Now they could say that because it's true, or they could say that because they're in the fundraising business, and if they look weaker, powerless, who's going to give to them? | ||
| And so and then one of the things that's not, but it but it is real, right? | ||
| I mean, they're not. | ||
| Would Ted Cruz be re-elected with without AIPAC money? | ||
| Uh I don't know. | ||
| You don't know? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You don't you think that Ted Cruz is so on the edge that if it weren't for APAC, he wouldn't win? | ||
| I think he barely squeaked by last time. | ||
| I put it to you that APAC, like every other fundraising organization, is a specialist at asking for money and sounding like a puffer fish bigger than the and I'm not denying that APAC is powerful. | ||
| But I would also put to you that every other country in the world does this too, including in recent years, Qatar. | ||
| Well, uh yeah, I mean, I'm I'm sure other other they also also have to uh register for Farah, which APAC doesn't register. | ||
| APAC are Americans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, um, I was I I was with a bunch of mums and dads. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, I I I get that. | ||
| But again, it's it's it's the fact that like, okay, we have fought like hell, we got Trump elected, and then it feels like so much of the effort and the energy and the resources of Trump's second administration have gone towards Israel centric uh topics. | ||
| I mean, it it has I mean, you know, yes, they they're deporting people, but then you've got this hyper focus on we're gonna, you know, we're gonna go through people's social media, and if they're anti-Israel, they aren't gonna you know get into the country. | ||
| It's like uh that's not for us. | ||
| Pause for a second. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Have you have you actually changed the test, the litmus test there? | ||
| Anti-Israel. | ||
| Is that really the test, or is it pro Hamas? | ||
| Because they're different things. | ||
| Are they? | ||
| Oh my God, they are. | ||
| If if you said, I oppose Netanyahu, I oppose Israel, by the way, some Jews would do that. | ||
| But if you if you are pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist, you can be an American of any background and say, you've come to our country and you're supporting proscribed terrorist groups. | ||
| Get out. | ||
| That's I mean, is that a favorite of the Jews? | ||
| Well, I guess because Hamas hates the Jews the most. | ||
| But that's very dri it's very different to kick out a supporter of a terrorist group than I mean. | ||
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Well, I j well, I just I mean, the the the example is not anti-Semitism, it's support for terrorists. | |
| Uh, the the examples I've seen, I'm not sure. | ||
| I want to see the wording. | ||
| Explicit um, you know. | ||
| Well, but you you know, you can bend that. | ||
| You can go, well, you know, they're supporting Hamas because they're protesting for Palestinians and the Palestinians. | ||
| How about if there was a bunch of right now? | ||
| How if there were a bunch of foreign students, international students, who were full-blown anti-black racists, and they would burn a cross, maybe and wear white hoods, maybe instead of a kafia, wear a white hood. | ||
| Instead of, you know, uh chanting from the river to the sea, they were chanting some anti-black thing. | ||
| If foreign nationals came to America, went to universities and hounded blacks in the manner that these foreign nationals are coming to universities hounding Jews. | ||
| Do you think that those foreign nationals would have their visas stripped by Trump and kicked out? | ||
| I know they would. | ||
| Well, uh, but I'd say switch it to white, and the answer is no. | ||
| Well, see, that's where I'd like to differentiate, because I agree with you that anti-white bigotry is illegal, should be illegal. | ||
| It's again and by the way, look at Trump and his appointment, Harmit Dillon, the head of civil rights, very strong on these issues. | ||
| I mean, and taking the bad guys to court on these. | ||
| Don't elide the battle over whiteness, which you uh you've tried to hang around the Jews. | ||
| And I say I admit some Jews are anti-white. | ||
| But but I think saying APAC is an anti-white organization, I think that's a bridge too far. | ||
| Well, I would just I would say that. | ||
| I know the the ADL is, but they're awful, they're Obama types. | ||
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| Well, I would just say that they that what APAC does is draws a bunch of again, the resources, energy effort of our government away from things that actually would benefit or you know, affecting it. | ||
| Okay, what resources? | ||
| Other than the three billion a year in in foreign to Israel, which is dwarfed by the military. | ||
| Like I just can't get over the fact that America still has 40 bases in Germany and 50,000 troops there. | ||
| Do you think that's less than three billion that they give Israel every year? | ||
| You know that you know there's still American bases. | ||
| Well, you know why there's an American base in Cuba? | ||
| Because America wouldn't let go of that for more than a hundred years ago. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Amer the thing about Americans, God bless them, they protect my country, the greatest greatest freedom force in all of history. | ||
| America never leaves. | ||
| Trump wants air base again. | ||
| So we're going back to Afghanistan. | ||
| My point is you you really think the three billion a year they're given to Israel is more than they give to I mean, look at the No, no, it's it's it's not necessarily about the about the foreign aid that we can't. | ||
| We got to call us. | ||
| We keep getting distracted. | ||
| We've got to go to calls. | ||
| Ezra, we're going to call us on the next time, I promise. | ||
| Stay on the line. | ||
| We'll be right there. | ||
| All right, folks. | ||
| We actually are going to be joined by another guest, David Pine in the next hour. | ||
| So we're not gonna be do all three hours with Ezra Lavant. | ||
| He is here for the this final segment, and we thank him so much for giving us so much of his time. | ||
| And uh and taking on these these questions and these issues that so often just get uh get bowled over and people get called names and these things never get discussed. | ||
| I think we need to discuss it for all of our sake. | ||
| So thank you, Ezra, for for being here, and let's go off to the calls. | ||
| Terry in Minnesota is next in line. | ||
| Thank you so much for calling. | ||
| Thank you for holding. | ||
| I'm sorry, we're both just rambling on. | ||
| Uh Terry, you're on the air. | ||
| Hey, you guys are doing good at rambling. | ||
| Hey, what do you know, huh? | ||
| Um Ezra, I got a question for you. | ||
| I got a question for you, Ezra, and uh uh Harrison too, but Ezra for sure. | ||
| Um would you say pretty much that this world is basically in confusion in Babylon because there's so much out there that people are basically heads are spinning. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| I'd say I mean when I especially when I hear the news out of the UK, I mean, it is so yes, the world is in absolute confusion, would be my take. | ||
| I think I think uh Ezra would probably agree. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that there was a quantum moment during COVID because so many institutions that we looked up to and trusted broke. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I think it uh it was a shock to many people. | ||
| Like, even the way I deal with my own doctor, I'm a skeptic because I I he tried to sell me on a jab. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the the lines he used were not medical, they were like political. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where do you get your information from? | ||
| Facebook, you know they make billions of like I just thought you're treating me like I'm stupid. | ||
| I actually feel like I know more than you. | ||
| You're not giving me medical advice, you're giving me political advice. | ||
| That has changed forever my view, not just of doctors, but of the whole medical system. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And now multiply that to the media, to professors, to the colleges of physicians and surgeons or whatever they're called down here. | ||
| Every single check and balance in our democracy failed. | ||
| Yours less so than in Canada. | ||
| Um in Canada, they brought in martial law when the truckers had a protest. | ||
| And they stole the bank accounts. | ||
| It was brutal. | ||
| Yeah, and so listen, man is confused. | ||
| We live in a confused state. | ||
| We're we're trying to seek out truth. | ||
| But then when everything we actually thought, okay, I know these ten things. | ||
| I'm safe with these ten things. | ||
| Let's go discover the world. | ||
| No, these are detonating now. | ||
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| So that is so alienating. | ||
| And the problem is, we need to trust some things. | ||
| It's too exhausting to go through life doubting everything. | ||
| I told Alex that my favorite thing about him was that he was an omni-skeptic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that he challenges everything and he's not afraid to do so. | ||
| And he's so important for that role. | ||
| He's like the leader of the opposition in a way. | ||
| He opposes, and and once in a while it gets it wrong. | ||
| So what? | ||
| Someone had to oppose just to test it. | ||
| In our system, we we believe in the clash of ideas. | ||
| A scientific hypothesis. | ||
| It fails, come up with a new one. | ||
| But my worry is in this world where we don't trust anything, do not fill the gap with the universal excuse. | ||
| Blame the Jews, blame the Jews, the Jews to do the Jews to the Jews. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| I'm not here to turn Jew haters into Jew lovers. | ||
| I'm here to tell people of good faith, be a little bit skeptical when people just blame the Jews. | ||
| Was it really a Jew? | ||
| And if he was Jewish, was it in his essence as a Jew, or was he, or was it just ancillary that he was Jewish? | ||
| And do not fall prey to the leftist mindset of blaming others for your own life because it's so easy to do. | ||
| Do not for two thousand years, Jews have been blamed. | ||
| Don't blame them for something they didn't do. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Uh so what what was your question, Derek? | ||
| I think uh, yeah, everybody, everybody is is mixed up right now. | ||
| And and I think you're right. | ||
| I mean, my my take is actually different. | ||
| I think embrace, embrace the uh uncertainty. | ||
| Just go, you know what? | ||
| Maybe I don't know what the truth is, but I'm gonna, you know, pursue what what I do know. | ||
| I was talking when uh all the AI stuff first started coming out, and people were making these pictures that were so incredible but totally fake. | ||
| My mom said, I just I'm not gonna be able to trust any pictures I see anymore. | ||
| And I go, you have you been? | ||
| Have you been trusting that you shouldn't have been for the last 20 years you should have been looking at everything a sconce and going, this could be true or could not, I'm gonna proceed as if both are possible. | ||
| So Terry, what what's your uh what what question were you getting to? | ||
| I don't think you finished your thought there. | ||
| Okay, here it is. | ||
| Buckle up. | ||
| The Jews of the tribe of Judah have been taking the rap for centuries as to what the Kenites, K-E-N-I-T-E dash T-A-R-E-S, Kenite tares, have wrought on this world. | ||
| Everybody blames the Jews. | ||
| We are talking about two separate peoples, and I'm imploring both of you, and I know there's a King James, a standard King James, lying around the office somewhere. | ||
| Before Ezra leaves, you track this down because it's the King of David. | ||
| It's real quick. | ||
| Listen up. | ||
| Here it comes. | ||
| John 8, 42 to 47. | ||
| Revelation 2, 9, 39. | ||
| Matthew 24, 30. | ||
| Then jump to Matthew 13, 24, 30. | ||
| Then jump to 34, 43. | ||
| Genesis 3, 19, 13 to 19. | ||
| Ezekiel 28, 13. | ||
| 1 Chronicles 2, 55. | ||
| 1 John 3, 10 and 12. | ||
| That nails down from God, not me, none of us, of what the hell we're talking about here because the Jews are absolutely getting decimated by these people. | ||
| God warned of the Kenites since the garden, okay? | ||
| And Kenite just means it's basically, what is it, Hebrew? | ||
| The offspring of Cain. | ||
| We all know Cain was the first murderer. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Did he even have offspring? | ||
| So that's a very, very interesting question. | ||
| Thank you for that, Terry. | ||
| Do you want to respond to that? | ||
| Should we go on there? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I can't say I know what a canine is, and I've jotted the word down. | ||
| I didn't jot down all those other paragraphs. | ||
| But I think that everyone should read. | ||
| And they should read the King James Version. | ||
| It's harder to read. | ||
| But the way it was written was very important, too. | ||
| It was political decisions. | ||
| There was 24 people who... | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, imagine writing such an important book by committee. | ||
| It's almost impossible. | ||
| I mean, because that was the standard version. | ||
| And that is one of the literary... | ||
| Even if you're not Jewish or Christian, it's... | ||
| a it is the key to understanding Western civilization. | ||
| It's it's a masterpiece and I I was shocked because you know you grow up going to church and hearing all the stories so you know them just you know almost second nature but then you know probably 10 years ago I went back and actually read the New Testament for the first time and it's like it's so much more human and yet so much more godly than you remember it's just the stories are so different than you hear in in preschool you know but that's what gets stuck in your head so I totally agree everybody should should absolutely read that. | ||
| And that version like the king I mean it maybe it's a little hard there's the new King James which sort of updates the language but you want the old it's the history of the West the history of Christianity is the history of the West. | ||
| Absolutely I completely agree with that 100%. | ||
| Thanks so much for the call Terry. | ||
| Really appreciate that let's go to Dan in California next again on uh scripture Dan on line four thanks for calling in you're on the air with myself and Ezra Levant. | ||
| Yeah thanks so much for having me guys um I wanted to bring it up the pre previous caller made a good comment so Jesus was from the tribe of Judah all right and uh so when we when we call out the Jews we're not what we shouldn't be calling out the Jews. | ||
| I mean, John 8, 44 says, Jesus confronts the religious leaders and says, you are of your father, the devil, and your will is to be, to do your father's desires. | ||
| He was a murderer from the beginning, okay? | ||
| And so we have to recognize that when we start labeling, you know, calling out, saying it's the Jews, it's not the Jews, who does Satan want us to, who does he want to persecute? | ||
| Well, of course the Jews, because everything out of Satan's mouth is a lie, right? | ||
| But we also got to remember, in Judges, the failure to drive the Canaanites out, God says Israel failed to expel the Canaanites and its inhabitants. | ||
| And this disobedience led to spiritual and moral compromise. | ||
| So we have to take that into account. | ||
| And so... | ||
| the the the the there is um you know in Matthew 21 it says, Therefore I say unto you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. | ||
| So is that the United States? | ||
| Is that is that who we are now? | ||
| I mean, i because it says that those will be grafted in that are not of the twelve tribes. | ||
| We are we are grafted in as Christians, okay. | ||
| And so th their fulfillment from God for the land has already been fulfilled. | ||
| And we can call, you know, Israel i God can defend Israel anytime he wants. | ||
| And it says the final battle that what happens is is that Israel be surrounded and the armies do not come to to defend it. | ||
| And God returns at that point. | ||
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| I think that that's what a lot of uh especially the evangelicals sort of look forward to, and and you know, it's behind a lot of their support of uh Israel. | ||
| Uh good comments on that, because you know, I if you read the Old Testament, it's it's sort of a constant, you know, there are Jews that are falling out of favor with God and they start worshipping cows and get get punished, and then there are good people that you know uh get the blessing of the Lord. | ||
| So, you know, there's a there's a constant sort of back and forth uh throughout the Old Testament. | ||
| Have you ever been to Israel? | ||
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| Would you ever go? | ||
| And I'm not inviting you, I'm just saying, would you ever go? | ||
| I yeah, sure, why not? | ||
| I think it's it's an eye-opener for people who who think about Israel and talk about Israel as you do. | ||
| And I think the first thing is it's surprising. | ||
| It's very modern, very multiracial, very multicultural, which I I think would surprise people. | ||
| And you'd be surprised at how many Arabs interact completely peacefully with Jews. | ||
| Like I think it I think you would be shocked because the only news you get about the region is bad news. | ||
| But in Jerusalem, for example, you see Jews very orthodox, Muslim women very orthodox, and they interact in general peacefully. | ||
| I think you would be startled by that. | ||
| You would be fascinated by their technology, their military, um their fence technology, you know. | ||
| They they have a barrier between Arab villages and Jewish villages for security, something that I think America could profit from learning about. | ||
| But I think for a Christian person, going to the places in the Bible cannot but be moving, confirming in your faith, and just even for people who are not religious, but just who know the stories, it's fascinating. | ||
| You know, Armageddon, Hebrew harmagido. | ||
| There's a place called Megiddo where how many yeah, and how many levels of civilization ruined upon one and the next. | ||
| I would encourage any Israel skeptic to go to Israel. | ||
| And I would say try and meet with both sides. | ||
| And I think that I I think it would I mean, like if you talked about Italy, as much as you talk about Israel and the Jews, wouldn't you think, well, maybe I'm just gonna go and check it out? | ||
| No, I'm not saying you don't know a lot about it. | ||
| In fact, the opposite. | ||
| I'm saying because you do know so much about it. | ||
| Well, what happened if you went there? | ||
| And I'm not saying to go in a managed way, but I just think that being there, I mean, especially when we're hearing about you know, two calls in a row have referred to old texts and what happened thousands of years ago. | ||
| What would happen if you actually saw evidence of that? | ||
| And how would you feel about protecting that? | ||
| And how would you feel about the Christian community in a place like Bethlehem being eradicated? | ||
| And uh I don't know. | ||
| I I think I would recommend anyone go there. | ||
| You know, Rebel News about eight years ago. | ||
| We took our staff and we had some skeptics on our staff. | ||
| And I said, We're going to Israel, we're gonna crowdfund it. | ||
| You have only one rule. | ||
| You have to you can say anything you want, but you have to be honest. | ||
| And and I thought that was a great rule. | ||
| We took Gavin McKinnon. | ||
| I don't know if you know who I'm talking about. | ||
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Of course, yeah. | |
| And and he prepared my reading anti-Semitic book called The Culture of Critique. | ||
| And I said, I don't care. | ||
| Your only rule is that you have to listen to but we met with both sides. | ||
| We met with Jews, we met with Arabs, we went into Ramallah. | ||
| I said, you just have to, you cannot, if you're impressed, you have to say so. | ||
| If you're persuaded, you have to say so. | ||
| That was my one one request. | ||
| And I to this day he talks about that, yeah, by the way. | ||
| And I would say, take the biggest skeptic, go as long as you're going with your eyes open. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it's worth going. | ||
| Like, wouldn't you say it's worth going if you talk of it, given how much you talk about it? | ||
| Uh it yeah, it could be. | ||
| I mean, I don't I don't really have uh a negative view of Israel of the people or anything. | ||
| No, I'm saying you do. | ||
| Well, I mean, I'm you know, I I I I expect them to be uh, you know, very multicultural. | ||
| I mean, I I almost expect it to be more like America than uh than most other places. | ||
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Is that accurate or not really because it's a different mix? | |
| But I mean, just how small it is, how close, like how narrow Israel is where the West Bank like it's what, eleven miles or something at its narrowest point at the end. | ||
| Yeah, it's tiny. | ||
| Like that's another thing for America, which is a big, mighty country with hundreds of millions of people. | ||
| Or or or just imagine the death toll of twelve hundred people killed in a terrorist attack. | ||
| Well, I mean, what was the biggest attack on America? | ||
| There was the World Trade Center and there was Pearl Harbor, each was about three thousand dead. | ||
| Okay, well, Israel has about ten million people, they had twelve hundred dead, so multiply that by thirty. | ||
| That would be like thirty thousand killed in one day. | ||
| Like the shock. | ||
| And and also, you know what? | ||
| There's one thing about Israel, and you talked about why does Israel get certain treatment in America doesn't. | ||
| On that I very much agree with you on one particular thing. | ||
| Israelis have skin in the game. | ||
| It's not just internet chit-chat. | ||
| They have to go and join the conscription there. | ||
| And they most likely will serve and be in danger. | ||
| And so you've got to make a decision about your life. | ||
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Right. | |
| Isn't it meaningful? | ||
| And you know, Israel incredibly is one of the few Western countries that has a positive birth rate. | ||
| You know, from Italy to Canada to the uh Scandinavian countries, no one's having babies anymore. | ||
| How is it that in a country that's in such existential jeopardy since military threat, they're having more babies. | ||
| There's something there that I wish Americans would lower. | ||
| You keep talking about white Americans. | ||
| Okay, why is the white American birth rate so low? | ||
| Now there's some reasons. | ||
| Housing costs, people being demoralized in certain ways, unemployment, you can't get a job to pay the bills, you can't move out. | ||
| There's a lot of reasons. | ||
| I know them. | ||
| But maybe there's something to learn. | ||
| How is it that a beleaguered little country has just decided it's gonna live? | ||
| It's just decided that. | ||
| Decide it doesn't give a damn what the UN says, decide it doesn't give a damn what alt-right Twitter says. | ||
| Decide it's just gonna live. | ||
| There's something that I wish Americans would learn from that. | ||
| And I think you do too, because you've said it about four times today. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Why can't we have some of those things? | ||
| Well, I agree with you. | ||
| But part of it is like Well, there's well, i there's different it's different in the political where it's like we do advocate for these things and then we just get ignored, which is which is frustrating. | ||
| And then the personal, because I was I think I was saying to you during the break, like one of the things that I've I've noticed in my life, all of my Jewish friends all got married young. | ||
| They're all super close with their extended families, they all had tons of kids, and it's like I don't see my white friends following that same. | ||
| So there's a lot of stuff about the Jewish community that I'm like, why can we not do this? | ||
| Why can we not? | ||
| And you know, part of it is sort of the uh, you know, in Israel specifically, like the siege mentality. | ||
| There they when you're under pressure like that, it's good for you. | ||
| What's going wrong with America is we're too comfortable and we think everything's going to fine no matter what, and we can just, you know, I'll put off getting married till I'm 45 and then I'll have kids. | ||
| And it's like it doesn't work that way. | ||
| You gotta you gotta have your have your head in the game. | ||
| And I think Jews do a very good job of of pressuring other Jews of like, hey, you know, you gotta, you it's the cliche. | ||
| There are, you know, dentists and lawyers and all that, because it's like, hey, you gotta contribute, you gotta be somebody, you know, for yourself, but for all of us. | ||
| I think there's this collective uh really good mentality of like we're all in this together, you know, we have to survive and and we can't, you know, we can't just be lackadaisical because you know, we're it's sort of a siege mentality. | ||
| Would you agree with that? | ||
| I there there's a lot to talk about there, and I agree with a lot of it, and but instead of taking five minutes to give you my thoughts at this point. | ||
| We should go to the call. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much for the call, Dan. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| This is I'm it's a really fun conversation. | ||
| I got some I was gonna say, but let's take more. | ||
| Okay, Mark, Mark from San Jose. | ||
| Uh thank you for calling in. | ||
| Stu Peter's debate with Alex. | ||
| And again, I'm I'm just picking whoever was here first, so the topics are random. | ||
| Mark, uh, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| Well, thank you for taking my call. | ||
| I have the utmost respect for both you guys. | ||
| I love that interview with Borla. | ||
| Thank you for a mark of nice day. | ||
| And uh I would encourage people to get the shirt, you know, the rebel news, info wars, go to the city councils and supervisors and you know, Canada and here, and you know, give them a comment. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, in regards to Stu Peters, uh I also respect him. | ||
| He calls himself the walking lie detector cast, and I uh I think there's been some miscommunication. | ||
| I don't think he's lied, and I don't think Alex is lied. | ||
| Uh there's been some real miscommunication. | ||
| So if you would publicly say Sue, you can call in. | ||
| But, you know, it's limited. | ||
| Maybe you could make two minutes apiece, five minutes apiece, whatever you you wish. | ||
| And then, you know, we could you could answer his statements or you can ignore them and vice versa. | ||
| But I would love to see Sue Peters on the Ezra Levant show in Rebel News and on InfoWars and you know, different platforms. | ||
| Because I, you know, there's a lot of us listening that do respect all four of you guys, even though you know there's some uh di disagreements. | ||
| Well, I'll say when it comes to Stu Peters, I like every time he says stuff online, that's uh because he'll say, oh, the the InfoWars hosts told me I couldn't go on. | ||
| I just say to him, You're lying, that's a lie. | ||
| Stop saying that. | ||
| Stop lying about this. | ||
| You're lying. | ||
| I got no beef with Stu Peters other than just that's a lie, so he shouldn't say it. | ||
| I mean, I've been I've been on Stu Peter's show, but um, but yeah, he's you know, like I was saying, he's the one that I mean, he's got a warped view, and so I disagree with him and I go on a show and tell him that. | ||
| Uh would you ever have Stu Peters on, Ezra? | ||
| I got to know him a tiny bit before this whole Israel thing became his bread and butter. | ||
| And it was actually about a trucker case. | ||
| Um sorry, sorry, about a COVID type case. | ||
| And and I I'm not looking to pick a fight here, but my experience is the same one you just described. | ||
| Look, there's some people who I'm with whom a debate, I don't know if it's gonna be successful. | ||
| And the reason I said, hey, Alex, I got a few things on my mind. | ||
| You might have a come down and just bent, is because I know that that InfoWars viewers are thoughtful. | ||
| They know why they believe things, they're open to new information, and they're also uh alive to the fact that people are there's a battle on for your mind, is the saying goes. | ||
| And so I feel like it's a good faith uh audience, and even if they don't agree with me, they're gonna give me a hearing. | ||
| And if I say, look, look in your own heart, please don't do the leftist move of collective judgment of Jews, please don't use ju anti-Semitism as an escute excusology. | ||
| I feel like I've got a chance of those getting through. | ||
| Not every audience is that way. | ||
| Um I don't know. | ||
| I I I personally don't think it would profit me to inter interact with them. | ||
| He's commenting on us. | ||
| He's probably watching right now. | ||
| How are you doing, Stu? | ||
| Uh welcome, welcome to the show. | ||
| Uh thank you for the call, Mark. | ||
| Let's go to Dr. Mike in Houston. | ||
| Dr. Mike in my hometown. | ||
| Thanks for calling in, Dr. Mike here on the air. | ||
| Hi, Harrison. | ||
| Uh and uh uh Mr. LeBron. | ||
| I um was wondering uh you have a uh uh uh uh co-national, I guess for lack of a better word, uh, in um uh in uh a uh an author uh that's uh Henry Maykow. | ||
| I'm probably mispronouncing his name, but he's he's a Polish uh of Polish extraction. | ||
| He's a Jew, uh uh just an ethnic Jew. | ||
| He's written four books, uh the most recent of which is Illuminati Four, which was an um I read the first three books. | ||
| They were they were great. | ||
| Uh but this one was uh just startling. | ||
| Uh it came out in January. | ||
| He makes the claim that uh uh Chabad is moving this this extremist uh ultra-orthodox uh uh clique of Jews uh out of uh uh the synagogue in New York City, and they have they have similar uh organizations across the nation and across the world. | ||
| But this organization is pushing the world towards a nuclear Armageddon in the hopes of exterminating all Gentiles, or as many as possible, to bring about what they consider the real Messiah, Mashiach. | ||
| And this is their intent, and he claims that they have an important or a critical window between Rosh Hashanah 2027 and Rosh Hashanah 2028, in which this all must be accomplished. | ||
| And I I looked at these weird uh reversals of of Trump, uh whom he claims again is a member of Kabad, uh kind of a quiet uh uh interesting. | ||
| So you're seeing you're seeing things move towards that eventuality. | ||
| I'm sorry, we're running out of time here in the uh this is our last segment with Ezra, so I want to get his comment on that. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I know Chabad. | ||
| Um I've known them my whole life. | ||
| They're basically evangelical Jews, but not not towards Gentiles, towards getting existing Jews to maybe raise their observance level. | ||
| That's the thing about Jews. | ||
| They don't try and convert people to Judaism, but rabbis like Chabad try and say, come on, light those Sabbath candles. | ||
| Come on, keep a little kosher. | ||
| Like they're sort of nagging you in a very friendly way to boost your Judaism. | ||
| They're big in a charity. | ||
| They're sort of sort of like the Mormon missionaries. | ||
| They go far away. | ||
| Like they'll there's Chabad in Dubai. | ||
| There's Chabad in Beijing. | ||
| Like in the strangest places you'll find these folks. | ||
| I have been dealing with Chabad. | ||
| I saw Chabad Rabbi a week ago in Calgary, Alberta. | ||
| I have been dealing with these people for 35 years. | ||
| I have never once heard anything political or in the manner you just described. | ||
| Now I'm not listening I don't know what every Chabad rabbi in the world. | ||
| Listen, they they love they love coming together and you know giving an award. | ||
| And of course, and I mean who everybody loves to have their president picture taken with the president. | ||
| How you describe Chabad, and I know you're not saying it, you're repeating how Henry Maykow describes it. | ||
| I'm gonna guess he's never met a Chabad rabbi or gun a chabad house. | ||
| They call Chabad house. | ||
| It's basically if I were to go to Hong Kong today, I could go there and get a hot meal, and the rabbi would pressure me to say a prayer or something. | ||
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Right. | |
| They are not what was just described. | ||
| They're just not. | ||
| And maybe Henry Macau knows other things, but I'm gonna guess that he's never actually met a Chabad rabbi or gone to a Kabad house because what he's described, it's just not it's just not how it is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And on the other, uh, when I was doing Alex's show, someone quoted Stu Peters and said, Goy means cattle. | ||
| No, like there's a hundred little things like that that I that you know, try catching these rumors and swatting them down. | ||
| And I'm not saying Jews are perfect and everything's a happy answer, but but this little story about Chabad and the little story about what goi means, those are just enough. | ||
| It's gotta be fresh. | ||
| It's enough real, you know what I say? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I say this to my staff, and I don't know we're almost out of time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I say this to my staff about conspiracy theories. | ||
| The world is crazy enough. | ||
| You don't need to make stuff up. | ||
| You don't need to make stuff up. | ||
| That's why we don't. | ||
| We always just tell the truth, and then people think we're crazy because the world is so crazy. | ||
| As Ezra Levant, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| This has been great. | ||
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