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| George Soros' right hand man, Howard Rubin, has been arrested for running a sex trafficking operation out of a penthouse turned BDSM sex dungeon. | ||
| And this is par for the course with these globalists, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Howard Rubin, a 70-year-old Wall Street stalwart, once with Solomon Brothers Merrill Lynch, where he caused a $377 million loss in 1987, Bear Stearns, and later a Soros Fund management acolyte who rubbed elbows with the globalist puppet master George Soros himself, has been hauled off in cuffs by FBI agents that stormed his Fairfield Connecticut lair on September 26, 2025. | ||
| I'm starting to think that some of these people in high areas of finance are start are really a problem. | ||
| The 10 count federal indictment paints Ruben not as a financial wizard, but as a sadistic trafficker who from 2009 to 2019 weaponized his millions to lure at least a dozen women, many of them ex-playboy models, into a vortex of coercion, Beatings, electrocutions, and restraints that left scars both seen and unseen. | ||
| When you start, you know, with shocking people and hiring the hitman, it doesn't seem fun anymore. | ||
| That's not a fetish. | ||
| It's murder. | ||
| Women were allegedly plied with alcohol, volume, or other drugs to impair consent, then forced to sign NDAs while intoxicated under threats of lawsuits or public exposure. | ||
| His personal assistant, Jennifer Powers, was nabbed in her South Lake, Texas hideout. | ||
| She had allegedly orchestrated the logistics and reportedly maintained the dungeon, restocked equipment, structured payments to evade bank reporting, which led to Rubin's bank fraud charge, and took notes on Rubin's satisfaction. | ||
| Prosecutors say the pair forced those victims then to sign nondisclosure agreements that put financial consequences on them if they told. | ||
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These allegations are very serious. | |
| These women allege that he had repeatedly lured them to his penthouse and to other locations under the guise of companionship or conducting photo shoots with him. | ||
| And when they arrived, they say that he drugged them, gagged them, raped them, beat them, and even so badly in some cases that one of them required reconstructive surgery. | ||
| Another one had broken ribs and that he covered this up with the help of some of his associates. | ||
| Now, the plaintiffs say that he violated several laws, including the Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organizations Act and also the Trafficking Victims Protection Act because he created this enterprise to lure them in, abuse them, and then cover it up. | ||
| And, of course, he is denying all of these allegations and now countering by saying that these women are trying to extort him for money. | ||
| These details drawn from the indictment and prior civil suits where Rubin was held liable for $3.85 million in damages to six victims in 2022 underscore a calculated network of coercion that left lasting physical and psychological scars. | ||
| Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Joseph Nosella did in Mint's words, quote, Human beings are not chattel to be exploited for sex and sadistically abused, end quote. | ||
| A rare federal thunderbolt aimed at the untouchables who treat people like raw sewage. | ||
| Court docs reveal text messages where Rubin brags to powers about zapping women with electric toys until their breast implants flipped or binding them in his soundproofed 76th floor lair stocked with whips, chains, and devices. | ||
| One victim, trafficked to Vegas in 2018, endured such brutality she required medical intervention. | ||
| Another fled in terror after Rubin twisted her arm. | ||
| As the news tightens with mandatory minimums of 15 years staring down the barrel toward life in the clink, this saga screams the unvarnished truth. | ||
| The globalist elite's underbelly is a dungeon of trafficking depravity. | ||
| all bankrolled by the same cabal that puppeteers our elections and our economy. | ||
| These are the people embedded in the highest perches of power, unleashing their sick vision upon America. | ||
| John Bowne reporting for InfoWars. | ||
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| Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Welcome to the war room. | ||
| I'm your host, Harrison Smith, joined in studio by Ezla uh Ezra Levant. | ||
| And uh I just realized I don't I don't have a sheet for you to tell everybody where to go, but obviously Rebel News is uh is your outfit there in Canada doing amazing work. | ||
| And uh how else can people find you? | ||
| Well, that's the main way, rebelnews.com. | ||
| I'm on uh X at Simply My Name, which is Ezra Levant, and uh we're always doing news that I think is a sort of a general thematic fit with Warroom. | ||
| I mean, today we had a big story very exciting that we think we've discovered an Antifa cell working out of a military base in Montreal, Quebec, which is crazy. | ||
| You guys have gone ahead and banned it as a terrorist group. | ||
| They seem to be operating in a military base in Canada. | ||
| Isn't that nuts? | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| I was actually it was funny. | ||
| I was looking at that story when I I learned that you were in town today. | ||
| So I was like, oh, great. | ||
| This is uh, you know, and I actually I got a whole Canada stack here. | ||
| I don't know what the heck's going on in Canada. | ||
| They're killing ostriches, they're taking the guns, you're all being replaced by Indians. | ||
| It's like, what is happening up there? | ||
| Well, we've covered that ostrich story like crazy. | ||
| And uh, at first you're thinking, ostriches, what like who cares? | ||
| That's how's that even news? | ||
| But I think it's a real echo of COVID authoritarianism. | ||
| And I think people, there's 400 birds at that ostrich farm, and they're big birds. | ||
| Like it, and the idea they're gonna kill every single one of them, because 250 days ago, some of them got sick and then got better, and now they've got all herd immunity. | ||
| I think people see a lot of things in there, and they they say, okay, this is just like the COVID authoritarians having arbitrary rules that make no sense, they brook no dissent, and that are extreme. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And there's just so many and and junk science and and no room for dissent and police. | ||
| Now the RCMP, that's our FBI coming in because the Canadian food inspection agency is coming to kill these 400 birds, but they'd be roughed up by the locals. | ||
| So now you got this huge team of actual cops that are protecting the food inspection cops. | ||
| Like it it's it's become a whole thing. | ||
| Someone's used the word ostrich Waco, God forbid, but it is crazy out there. | ||
| And you know, I mean, ostriches are not the most lovable animal. | ||
| I mean, they're they're ugly, they're mean, but they I think even despite that, people say don't kill those birds. | ||
| There's a there's a res and you know, even RFK Juniors weighed in on the junk science behind us. | ||
| So ostriches, I know we've got a little website called Save the Ostriches.com. | ||
| And it's so hard to get there because it's so in the middle of you know the country, you have to drive and take two ferries to get there. | ||
| Like it's so remote remote. | ||
| But we uh, you know, we've got a Starlink and we've got an RV, and we're covering. | ||
| If you want ostrich news, you come to the right place. | ||
| I I've I've you know I've been seeing it crop up occasionally, and I just haven't put the time. | ||
| I'm just like, there's something going on with ostriches. | ||
| I figured they're calling them. | ||
| I mean, it's you know, like you said, COVID, but that ties into the you know, food control system and all that sort of stuff. | ||
| Exactly what it is. | ||
| I just I just look at Canada, and uh, of course, I see us 15 years down the line, and uh, and uh, you know, it ties into everything. | ||
| But, you know, you you wanted to come and take calls from the audience, and uh, I think it was your idea to call it ask a Jew or something like that. | ||
| And obviously, this topic just dominates conversation. | ||
| And in a way, I feel like I'm I'm sort of the perfect person to discuss this because I grew up around Jews. | ||
| And you and you made this point with Alex, and I think it's uh uh very pertinent one. | ||
| A lot of people out there literally never met a Jew in their life. | ||
| All they know is Benjamin Netanyahu on TV or whatever. | ||
| When you spend time around Jewish people, I've been to more Jewish weddings and birthdays and funerals and everything, and you get an appreciation for their culture and an understanding of like sort of the perspective uh that might characterize most Jews. | ||
| It's a lot harder to characterize all of them as one thing or all of them is as another. | ||
| Even I, you know, I was on Stu Peter's show, and he and I was saying, well, I grew up around tons of Jews. | ||
| And he said, they might have seemed nice, but if you had said Jesus Christ in their house, they would have kicked you out. | ||
| And it's like, dude, half of them are married to Gentiles and celebrate Christmas. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Like they just don't know what they're talking about. | ||
| Well, and that's the thing, uh, That's completely not true. | ||
| I mean, I'm Jewish. | ||
| I was one of four kids. | ||
| We had big, you know, holiday meals. | ||
| Saying Jesus Christ, in fact, the reason we wouldn't say that is we would be worried that if you if you say Christ is a swear, you would offend Christians. | ||
| I was raised not to say that because it was it could be offensive to take the Christian savior's name in vain to the ears of Christians. | ||
| So that's just complete bullshit from Stu Peters, who, you know what? | ||
| I think he has his contrarian hat on, and he's turned it to full. | ||
| And I think he trades in this information. | ||
| And that's what gets me. | ||
| On the one hand, a lot of Americans only know Jews from the internet. | ||
| And so they know Rabbi Schmooley, who is a disappointment. | ||
| When you said that on Alex's. | ||
| And of course, the censors who are either official Jews, like Jonathan Greenblatt, who's doing it in the name of Jews, and I really resent that because it's not in my name, or who are not doing it in the name of Jews, but just happen to be Jewish, and that bugs me too. | ||
| Why does he have to be a Jewish censor? | ||
| Um, I mean, obviously there are non-Jewish censors too, but it sort of sticks when it's a Jew. | ||
| And I I don't know. | ||
| I just I think that I see so many, but here's there's people of good faith who have questions. | ||
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Um about tiny things. | |
| Like you just raised a tiny thing. | ||
| Can you say the word Jesus Christ in a Jewish home? | ||
| And Stu Peters says you'll get kicked. | ||
| That's complete bullshit. | ||
| Well, but it but you know, it is true for some, right? | ||
| I mean, and this is this is my this has always been my thing is when you know a lot of Jews, it's like, okay, some of them are sort of just Jewish in name and really don't give a damn. | ||
| And then you have sort of Jewish extremists that are driven by a different, you know, um uh uh religious understanding or whatever. | ||
| Well, listen, uh what I want to do, here's what I'd love to do. | ||
| And I'm listening, it's your show. | ||
| Um, but what I was what I what we started doing on Alex's show was taking calls, and I really, you know, I'd I'd love to hear what's really on people's minds, and I'm gonna try and answer them. | ||
| I'm gonna try not to jump on people too hard, and I'm gonna try and give a real answer because my experience is that if someone has a real question, like, how do you know six million Jews died? | ||
| How do you know it wasn't five million or seven million? | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| And if you jump on that person and say, You're anti-Semitic, shut up, we're gonna suspend you on Twitter or whatever. | ||
| You haven't answered the question. | ||
| You've really just made it worse. | ||
| And you've conf, but you have confirmed that this is such a sensitive thing, the truth is being kept. | ||
| I mean, you know, I was at the 9-11 museum in Manhattan. | ||
| Have you ever gone there? | ||
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I never have actually could I really recommend it to you? | |
| And it was a very powerful tour, and the tour guide was a local, it was I mean, he works there, but it felt like he was more a neighborhood guy. | ||
| Like it was I I learned so much. | ||
| And then he opened it up for questions. | ||
| Well, what kind of questions do you think there were? | ||
| Uh yeah. | ||
| Every theory, every alternative theory, every critical theory, including some zany theories. | ||
| And I thought, uh-oh, well, you think that's his first time hearing those? | ||
| He hears those every day. | ||
| And and he was asked about steel and can jet fuel. | ||
| That's the one that was asked when I was there. | ||
| And he gave an answer so calmly and in my mind so persuasively. | ||
| And I thought, holy smokes. | ||
| Had he been sensitive and said, How dare you? | ||
| Not only would it have not educated the woman, and I don't know if she took his answer at face value. | ||
| I was pretty persuaded by it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he would have given her because having secret knowledge is one of the delights of a conspiracy theory. | ||
| I know something that you don't know and that you're not allowed to know. | ||
| I'm part of an elite group, a priesthood that knows what's really going on. | ||
| That's one of the allures of any conspiracy theory is that you have special knowledge. | ||
| And I feel it too. | ||
| I feel like sometimes when we have a revelation on something, and you, hey, everybody, you're all doing it wrong. | ||
| I got the secret truth. | ||
| And you know, once in a while, I suppose that's true. | ||
| But with Jews and Israel, there's so many rumors out there, such BS. | ||
| I think the right approach is to do your best to answer it. | ||
| Sometimes the answers aren't great answers. | ||
| Like if you're asking me to defend the actions of 15 or 20 million people, how could I over the course of thousands of Years. | ||
| Well, of course, over the course of thousands of years, some atrocious things were done by every culture, by every religion. | ||
| And how about this quirk in this? | ||
| How about this Talmud section that says that? | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| You ever look at other religious practices from Islam to Jehovah's Witnesses to Mormon? | ||
| Like if the game we're playing is find something weird in the religious practices of different religions, you'll be busy. | ||
| So there's I cannot defend every Jew in history and every Jew in the world. | ||
| But what I can do is appeal to the to the good faith of InfoWars users and say don't buy into collective guilt. | ||
| If a Jew did something, it must have been the Jews who did it. | ||
| And I and I always say, think of Stephen Miller in your mind. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Think of the greatest staffer in the White House. | ||
| Is he not a model American? | ||
| And is he not doing more than most cabinet ministers to make America great again? | ||
| And I say this is a Canadian, but boy, I'm jealous of that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So don't say the Jews. | ||
| If there's someone like we were just looking in the news today about that uh that financier friend of Howard, whatever, yeah, who agree, dude. | ||
| Who was uh charged with sex dungeons and stuff, and he sounds like his last name is Jewish, which I hate. | ||
| But okay, was it an essentially Jewish thing he did? | ||
| Was it a religious thing he did? | ||
| Was it or did he just happen to be a Jew doing something disgraceful, which embarrasses Jews, I suppose, but was it really a Jewish thing? | ||
| I mean, there was a caller earlier on Alex's show. | ||
| What about the fact that these the Jews by being left wing earn anti-Semitism? | ||
| Wait a second. | ||
| Is being it was it a Jewish thing or were they just leftists? | ||
| And and I I think that I would hope, and and let's get into it. | ||
| Let's take as many calls as possible. | ||
| I would hope that that your viewers and that info war viewers would still believe in treating people as individuals and not saying a Jew did something, so all Jews are culpable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I would hope that they wouldn't use Jews as a scapegoat for other things in their own life that maybe there's a more painful answer for. | ||
| Why aren't I getting ahead? | ||
| Why did something go wrong in my life? | ||
| Why don't I have the motivation to fix certain things? | ||
| Why can't I do this or that? | ||
| The Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the universal absolution for you don't have to take responsibility for your own lives. | ||
| It's those Jews who did it. | ||
| I'd have flat tire today. | ||
| Oh, those Jews, you know. | ||
| So my hope is that you know, Woody Allen apparently told a joke. | ||
| What's anti-Semitism? | ||
| It's disliking Jews more than is absolutely necessary. | ||
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That's good. | |
| That's sort of, I mean, he was he was a self-deprecating Jew. | ||
| And there's, I mean, I the arguments that the Jews, the Jews used to be so proud of Jewish excellence. | ||
| How many Jews won a Nobel Prize? | ||
| How many Jews have written books or music? | ||
| Steven Spielberg, I mean, the the Jerry Steinfell, I mean, that how many Jews have done, but that doesn't win arguments now because that just goes to, oh, you see, they control. | ||
| There's so many Jewish communities, you see they control Hollywood. | ||
| There's so many Jews who are so you see they control, they're powerful. | ||
| So trying to make an argument that Jews are a net positive, they're positive to the economy, they're a positive to science. | ||
| How many Nobel Prize did those arguments don't work anymore, do they? | ||
| Because, oh, you see, they're running the world. | ||
| You know, telling us you're powerful doesn't convince us you're not powerful. | ||
| All I would say is don't blame all Jews because someone who may not even regard themselves as Jewish. | ||
| Like you think, as I said to Alex, you really think Alex Soros? | ||
| Well, I guess maybe maybe that would be a good a good place to start. | ||
| Because I think you're right that you know a lot of it has to do with the the way that the questions are just absolutely shut down. | ||
| And again, that's why I say I think I'm sort of in a unique position to do this, because I I totally get why people have the questions that they have and why they get mad when they're not answered. | ||
| So I I want to put those uh to you, you know, at least some of them. | ||
| And but again, I don't do it from a place of of ignorance of Jews or of hatred for Jews, obviously. | ||
| So, you know, when it comes to, I guess the question is, what is a Jew? | ||
| That's one thing that like nobody seems to can, you know, nobody can define. | ||
| Is it a religion? | ||
| Is it a race? | ||
| I mean, how do you define whether somebody's a Jew or not? | ||
| And I for me, I just say, well, if they say they are, they are. | ||
| That's as as basically as deep as I can get it, because other than that, it doesn't seem there doesn't seem like a lot of uh strict definitions. | ||
| You know, and it's actually a very profound question you ask, because Israel is a country, their symbol is the star of David, but if you see someone on the street with a star of David in Austin or in New York, they might hate Israel. | ||
| Well, Well, probably they don't hate Israel, but but they're not saying I'm Israeli, they're saying I'm Jewish. | ||
| So you have a religion that is also a state. | ||
| But how but you can convert to become a Jew. | ||
| You can convert to the religion, although Jews generally try to dissuade you. | ||
| I don't know if you know that, but rabbis try to tell you not to do it. | ||
| No, you don't want to do this. | ||
| Like they're not evangelists. | ||
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Right. | |
| Um, but it's also inheritable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's Jews of different races. | ||
| Believe it or not, there's Ethiopian Jews. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Um, if you've ever been to Israel, I think you would be shocked by how multiracial it is. | ||
| Um there's a lot of Jews from Arab lands who after Israel was founded, they were all kicked out. | ||
| And they went to Israel, the one place that would take them. | ||
| There were there used to be hundreds of thousands of Jews in Libya, Iraq, um, Syria, Yemen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, can you imagine? | ||
| There used to be an enormous number of Jews. | ||
| They all went to Israel, and so you have different colors and different races, I suppose, but they're all Jewish. | ||
| Then you got the Russian Jews who came, you know, in the last 40 years. | ||
| So it's a tough one. | ||
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Is Israel an ethno state? | |
| Well, sort of, in in that anyone around the world, there's a law called the law of return. | ||
| If you're a Jew, you can go to Israel. | ||
| And that that's sort of a leftover from when Jews couldn't flee anywhere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And one of the contradictions in anti-Semitism is Jews, get out of Israel. | ||
| That's Palestinian. | ||
| Go back to Poland. | ||
| Jews, get out of Europe, go to well, where you know, I I think there's three ways of determining what is your ethnic homeland. | ||
| And I spend time in in wonderful places, and I think about it a lot. | ||
| Like I think about the word indigenous. | ||
| We don't use it enough for the indigenous English, the indigenous Irish. | ||
| But are they not? | ||
| They've been there for centuries, and and they are rooted to the land. | ||
| They're ethnicity. | ||
| And you don't want to be be racist, but can anyone become Irish? | ||
| Well, it it's a tough question, and maybe it's not my right to answer. | ||
| But I think that Israel has three things going for it. | ||
| It's historically, like you, you know, if you un thousands of years ago, as told in the Bible, it was historically the indigenous people. | ||
| They also were granted it in a legalistic situation by the United Nations. | ||
| And finally, they won it in wars, which is how a lot of countries get their territory. | ||
| So you could say Israel exists by not one but three different methods or or standards, which is probably more than a lot of countries that are divvied up by some decolon colonialization. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Well, no, yeah, well, and you're right. | ||
| And then and then, of course, you get into the colonial aspect and the fact that the the left sees everything in this very simple paradigm of oppressor versus oppressed, white ground. | ||
| They used to root for the Jews. | ||
| You know, when Israel was founded, it was very socialist. | ||
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Right. | |
| And you know, kibbutzes were actually communes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then they weren't totalitarian, but they were communistic economic projects. | ||
| And the Soviets voted at the UN to help create Israel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And for the first 20 or so years, America Israel was not a close ally of America. | ||
| I mean, it was the America that really helped more and more. | ||
| And it wasn't until the 1967 war that I think Israel really got strength and was no longer pushed around, and it was sort of a miraculous war. | ||
| If you it was called the Six-Day War in 1967, five or six Arab countries were defeated. | ||
| And that's when the left sort of flipped on Israel. | ||
| And the left liked Jews when they were on their knees bleeding after the Holocaust. | ||
| There was a lot of sympathy for Jews. | ||
| But as soon as Jews were the tough guys with a strong army, a lot of the left lost their sympathy. | ||
| They like underdogs, and suddenly the Jews refused to be underdogs. | ||
| And I think the strength of the Palestinian movement over the last generation has been they have managed to convince people, and they would say it honestly, I would I would be skeptical about that, that Israel is the oppressor and they are the oppressed. | ||
| And that's what has been Israel's great Achilles' heel in this war. | ||
| Israel dominates in every possible way, other than when you're too strong, you look like a bully. | ||
| Well, well, there's there's that, but then there's also the fact that like right now there's a lot of anti-Semitism rules being passed in America and stuff like that. | ||
| And a lot of times that's predicated on this sort of assumption that Jews need extra protection and they're In this very sort of fragile state. | ||
| And so there's a contradiction there of actually the Jews are really strong. | ||
| We don't need your help. | ||
| But also, if you don't, you know, censor people, then it's going to be dangerous for us. | ||
| So there's a contradiction there that I think grates on people. | ||
| You're exactly right. | ||
| And it's very tough to believe in free speech for people you don't like. | ||
| That's the toughest thing, isn't it? | ||
| But freedom of speech is the thing, it's the gift you have to give to your opponents if you want it for yourself. | ||
| And well, it's it's worth it, right? | ||
| I mean, that's always been my thing is like, yeah, people are gonna say offensive things. | ||
| They might say things that really upset you, but what you get for that in return is the ability to think your own thoughts. | ||
| Isn't that worth it? | ||
| Being a little insulted. | ||
| You know, I brought something I was going to show Alex, but I forgot about it. | ||
| And I put it in my pocket. | ||
| Can I show you? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, maybe I shouldn't do this, but I wanted to talk to him about freedom of speech, and I just forgot that I had put this in my pocket. | ||
| This, I don't know if I if you can see it, let me hold it up there. | ||
| It says E2R. | ||
| That's Elizabeth Regina. | ||
| That's Queen Elizabeth II. | ||
| And let me open it. | ||
| I've never worn this, but this is a medal given to me. | ||
| It's the Queen's Jubilee Medal. | ||
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Wow. | |
| For advancing freedom of expression. | ||
| Oh, that's beautiful. | ||
| Here, can we put that over here when we get the right thing? | ||
| And I've never worn it because I because it's not a military medal, and it feels a little bit like it's not stolen valid for me to wear this. | ||
| I was awarded it, but I would never wear this because I didn't serve in the military. | ||
| But I think about this, and I think that freedom of speech is a core pillar of the West. | ||
| And when I received this, I was very moved by it. | ||
| And I felt like it affirmed what I was doing. | ||
| And I got this because, you know, some years ago, I'd say almost 20 years ago now, I republished the Danish cartoons of Mohammed in a magazine I had. | ||
| And this was 2006 when you were just a tadpole. | ||
| But I published it. | ||
| I was hit with a complaint by something uh called the Alberta Human Rights Commission. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But it was it was not a human rights commission, it was a censorship company. | ||
| Oh, we know about that. | ||
| And and I was put through this 900-day ordeal because I published cartoons. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I I didn't publish them in a way that said, I agree with them. | ||
| It was like how a prosecutor would put put an exhibit to the jury. | ||
| Here's exhibit A, here's what we're talking about. | ||
| It was a magazine I could show people. | ||
| If it was radio, I'd have to paint a picture with words. | ||
| So I showed our people what all the fuss was about. | ||
| The New York Times didn't, the Wall Street Journal didn't. | ||
| We were the only paper in Canada that did. | ||
| And I got hit with this human rights complaint. | ||
| And I thought, oh, this is a joke. | ||
| It'll be gone in a second. | ||
| No. 900 days. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And halfway through, I mean, my legal bill in the end was about 100 grand, but halfway through the human rights commission said to me, if you give this guy a full page, like there was a Muslim imam from Pakistan who had complained. | ||
| If you give him a full page in your magazine that you can't edit other than for typos and pay him, I think it was like 8,000 bucks. | ||
| We'll let you go. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I said I'd rather shut the whole thing down. | ||
| And it was quite a thing. | ||
| And I this was really the internet was fairly new back then. | ||
| This was 20 years ago. | ||
| Yeah, that's wild. | ||
| And YouTube had just been invented. | ||
| And PayPal had just been invented. | ||
| So I was interrogated by this government bureaucrat. | ||
| And I and we managed to negotiate that we would make a record of the interrogation. | ||
| We didn't say video camera. | ||
| So she walks into my lawyer's office and we have a video. | ||
| I don't know if your friends can Google it really quickly. | ||
| On YouTube, Ezra Levant Human Rights Commission is it I I look a lot younger. | ||
| I had more hair with darker. | ||
| You might get a kick out of it, but they said to me, why did why did you publish those Danish cartoons of Mohammed? | ||
| And I don't want to take up too much time on this, but it's it's a story that shaped the course of my life. | ||
| Now I published those cartoons and I probably did a hundred media interviews. | ||
| And when people said, why did you publish those? | ||
| I tried to give the most reasonable answer I could. | ||
| It's a central artifact of the news story. | ||
| Uh we live under Queen Elizabeth's laws, not a Sharia law. | ||
| Um, it was the huge subject around the world. | ||
| There were dozens. | ||
| Yeah, this is it here. | ||
| Look at me, look how young I look. | ||
| That's Shirlene McGovern who was grilling me. | ||
| Turn up the the sound if you can. | ||
| The recruit can pull that in. | ||
| We can uh play because we're about to go to break in in a minute. | ||
| So so what so what was your reason at the end of the day for posting it? | ||
| I just told you the reasons that I gave the public because I'm trying to sound super reasonable and win hearts and minds. | ||
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Right. | |
| But when the government asks you, you can't try and minimize what you did. | ||
| You can't bargain with the the state. | ||
| And I said, and maybe you guys can find it. | ||
| I said, I reserve the right to be maximally offensive. | ||
| I'm not gonna try and bargain with you and convince you. | ||
| You are the state. | ||
| And if you're saying that my freedom turns on my answer, then my only reply is because it's my bloody right to do so. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, because they said I I shouldn't. | ||
| That's why because I remember that exactly. | ||
| And I remember at the time going, I don't even want to draw Muhammad, but that guy's telling me he's gonna blow me up if I do. | ||
| So now I have to. | ||
| Because he's telling me I can't. | ||
| So I didn't even want to before, but now I do. | ||
| And again, I think that that spirit informs a lot of what's going on on the right now when it comes to Jews. | ||
| We'll talk more about it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And shame on the ADL for creating that. | ||
| Oh, we'll we'll get into the ADL on the other side. | ||
| We'll be right back, folks. | ||
| Ezra Levant in studio. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is the war room. | ||
| I'm your host, Harrison Smith, brought to you, of course, by the Alex Jones Store.com. | ||
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| You will not regret it. | ||
| The products are absolutely amazing, and you support incredible content like this. | ||
| I'm in studio with Ezra Levant, of course, of Rebel News, an amazing outlet. | ||
| And what we're talking about, we're gonna take calls, we're gonna go out to calls here momentarily. | ||
| They're they're racking them up right now, and we'll go to those uh in just a second. | ||
| I'll sort of write down notes as you were talking um to Alex because again, you know, I grew up around a lot of Jewish people. | ||
| I know, I know I know the extremist Jews, I know the Jews that don't really care that much about it at all. | ||
| Uh and what what's the cliche where they say, you know, uh two Jews go in a room and three opinions come out, something like that. | ||
| Like it's a it's an incredibly intellectually diverse group of people. | ||
| Uh but and people don't really know how to how to deal with that, especially when you have the likes of Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL claiming to speak for everybody of the Jewish faith or the the Jewish ethnicity or however you want to define it. | ||
| And I you know, I always call uh Jonathan Greenblatt our our self-appointed Jewish overlord. | ||
| He decided he's the one that gets to decide what everybody says, and I just try to stay consistent. | ||
| I wouldn't be okay with uh Catholics having this amount of power, I wouldn't be okay with Protestants having this amount of power, I'm not okay with Jews having this amount of power. | ||
| And to me, there's something when you try to when I try to just have a principled stance that I apply regardless of the you know, I don't want a foreign nation involved. | ||
| If it's Israel, great. | ||
| If it's Mexico, great, I don't care. | ||
| It's a foreign nation as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| I feel like that confuses people. | ||
| People want me to either be anti-Jew or a Mossad agent, and they can't handle that like genuinely, I got nothing against Jews, but I see a threat from to my first amendment coming from people who are claiming to act on the behalf of all Jews. | ||
| I mean, how do you how do you deal with that uh and and the power of the ADL or APAC or any of these groups? | ||
| On Alex's show, we ran a video. | ||
| I don't know if you saw it, of um every year I go to Davos at the World Economic Forum, not as an invited guest, they won't let us in. | ||
| We're on No, they they try to stop you actually. | ||
| We always report on the way you're getting pulled over. | ||
| Yeah, it's uh we've tracked down on the streets Larry Fink of BlackRock, Albert Burla of Pfizer. | ||
| So we we basically are outside and we try and find these oligarchs and scrum them. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And once in a while they actually stop walking talk with us, but uh mostly they just try and hustle out of there. | ||
| Anyways, um my colleague Avi Amini bumped into Yeah, there's that was a fun one there. | ||
| That was when Larry Fink was there. | ||
| He tried to scare us by taking out his cell phone and snapping pictures of our faces, and uh we walked with him for a long time. | ||
| I don't think he had ever been talked back to in his life. | ||
| I don't I I felt daggers the way he was uh looking at us. | ||
| You you pe you're peer you pierced the veil. | ||
| You know, you're not supposed to even be there. | ||
| Oh, that you know what? | ||
| Uh it's uh it was that was very my heart was pumping. | ||
| Um that's I mean, I meant I I forgot to mention that as you know, the uh the man who shot Donald Trump's ear was in a black rock corporate video. | ||
| So who knows who I'm dealing with there? | ||
| Who knows about it anyways? | ||
| Uh so that I mean that's what we do. | ||
| But one of the people we bumped into at Davos was Jonathan Greenblatt. | ||
| My colleague Avi Yamini, who's Jewish uh like I am, scrummed him, and I don't know if you guys have that video. | ||
| It's about two minutes, and it might be worth watching. | ||
| Um Do you guys have that video? | ||
| I I I give it to Daria who used it on the Yeah, and you know what? | ||
| I could explain what Abi said in five minutes, or he can show it himself in two. | ||
| It's it's my view, and I'll say it while you guys are loading it up. | ||
| What bugs me about Jonathan Greenblatt is that he said, I'm the official Jew. | ||
| I'm doing this on behalf of Jews. | ||
| What I am doing is Jewish censorship. | ||
| I'm the boss of the Jews. | ||
| No one voted me for this position. | ||
| But uh and uh you use the word, I forget what you said, but I say a self self-appointed Jewish overlord. | ||
| I use the word official Jews, capital O Capital J T M. And I'm thinking, no, no, I'm Jewish too, and you can't do that, and I see through it because I'm Jewish and I know you don't speak for me. | ||
| So your your Jedi mind tricks don't work on me because I see your BS. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what you're actually doing, former senior Obama aide, is you are weaponizing the word anti-Semitism to silence critics of the left. | ||
| And like a knife that is dulled by overuse, when anti-Semitism finally does arrive, no one will believe you because you called every conservative anti Smith. | ||
| Here, let's, if you don't mind, I'd love to play the at least with volume up. | ||
| I don't think I've I've ever actually two minutes long. | ||
| It's it's really worth it if you guys can play it. | ||
| We always we always follow your uh your reporting at Davos. | ||
| I definitely remember the Larry Fink one. | ||
| I don't know if I've ever seen this one. | ||
| Let's pull this one in. | ||
| Jonathan. | ||
| Can I ask you something? | ||
| I'll walk with you. | ||
| Are you like that? | ||
| The boy who cried Wolf for so many years, you you you cried anti-Semitism and you found hatred everywhere, and then what and then finally obviously meaning from Rebel News. | ||
| What's Rebel News? | ||
| Rebel News. | ||
| It doesn't matter, but finally now the when the world when the world has turned so anti-Semitic, no one believes us because of people like you and the work you've done over so many years. | ||
| Destroying our allies, making lists about our allies, people that actually defend us. | ||
| You've been a big part of that problem, haven't you? | ||
| Do you know the boy that cried Wolf? | ||
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I'm not familiar with the story. | |
| Why don't you tell you he's not familiar with the stuff? | ||
| Look at some of the joke because the Jews around the world, we are feeling the pain, and you've alienated so many of our allies. | ||
| What about Elon Musk? | ||
| Somebody that's been so good. | ||
| Now you got a message for Elon. | ||
| Thank you, Jonathan. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Nothing to say. | ||
| Censorship in real life. | ||
| I bet you I'm gonna be on the list tomorrow. | ||
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Jonathan Greenblatt is good. | |
| You know what I always refer to Jonathan Greenblatt. | ||
| I do I used to do it more where I would just refer to him as a different name because to me, it's like you know, you read a headline, Jonathan Greenblatt condemns. | ||
| And it's like it might as well say Michael Smith. | ||
| Like, who is this guy? | ||
| He's literally nobody's condemning great. | ||
| What gets me is that he's doing it, he's using my reputation, my name, my history, and thousands of years of history. | ||
| He is pretending to the world that this is a Jewish project. | ||
| When I put it to you, it's a left-wing project using Judaism as the tactic. | ||
| And it's doubly effective. | ||
| It puts people of good faith on the back foot. | ||
| No, no, no, I'm not. | ||
| No, let me be defensive and explain to you that I'm not. | ||
| And I I don't know, I find it an odious uh approach. | ||
| And I there's other people out there that do things in the name of all Jews, and and that's one of my messages to to viewers of InfoWars is can you please do me the personal favor as someone who's been in this battle, this information war for 35 years, and who shares your values of fighting against like look at us. | ||
| We're there in Davos, scrumming these guys. | ||
| Like that's it's fun, but that's doing good work too. | ||
| You know, we're we're with the truckers and and then we crowdfunded their legal defense. | ||
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Right. | |
| We're in the UK with Tommy Robinson crowdfunding his legal defense when they try and silence him. | ||
| We do, you know, we we were really the only people who, in a serious way, oppose the COVID lockdowns in Canada. | ||
| So we're doing all the same things you're doing. | ||
| Can you do me the favor and judge me for who I am, rather than say, okay, you're a Jew and Greenblatt's a Jew, and Rabbi Schmooley is a Jew, therefore, I'm gonna so do me the one favor. | ||
| Don't say the Jews. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because it's not the Jews, it's some Jews, it's a Jew. | ||
| And I put it to you in some cases a Jew who's really turned off the Jewish, he flipped the switch off, hasn't been a synagogue since his bar mitzvah. | ||
| You know, to him being Jewish as he has a bagel once in a while. | ||
| And like, and this goes to your question: what is a Jew? | ||
| If someone is uh vestigial Jew, a a an ex-Jew, a lapsed Jew. | ||
| Are they s do I still have to bear some of the communal guilt? | ||
| Like Jeffrey Epstein, one of the worst people that anyone has ever heard of. | ||
| How I cursed the fact that his name is Epstein. | ||
| And did what was what he was doing essentially Jewish in character? | ||
| No. | ||
| It was um it was a honey trap. | ||
| It was a it was an extortion racket that clearly was linked to different intelligence agencies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| but do I have to pay the price for that because he's a Jew? | ||
| I can't tell you how badly I hate the fact that he's a Jew. | ||
| But as I said to Alex earlier today, you look at Anthony Fauci, AOC, Nancy Pelosi, no one says look what the Catholics are. | ||
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Right. | |
| They just wouldn't say that. | ||
| Because there's Catholic because you also got Anthony's Anthony and Scadalia, and you got like there's for every Catholic on the left, there's a Catholic on the right, some on the very right. | ||
| And so no one would ever say those Catholics, the Catholics. | ||
| I mean, some people would say that, but yeah, you should hear some of our callers. | ||
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Sure. | |
| There is some anti-Catholic bigotry, and there's some anti-Protestant bigotry, and I don't get it. | ||
| But I don't but but I think that that's a little nutty. | ||
| And well, I would I'd I'd say it's a little bit different because uh you know the AOC AOC doesn't often predicate what she's doing on her Catholicness, which is what Jonathan Greenblatt does. | ||
| Right, but neither did F. Greenbot's the worst of them all. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because it's like and I feel because it's not, it's like totally unfair to relate you to Jonathan Greenblatt. | ||
| So I feel for it. | ||
| Epstein never said I'm a Jew, juju-ju-do-do, right what I'm doing is Jewee Jewy Jewy. | ||
| He never does that. | ||
| Well that's well, that's where it intersects with Israel being a foreign state with its own intelligence operations that you know is is obviously considers itself a uh a Jewish state. | ||
| And actually, I think that again, when it gets to sort of the the frustrations that we're seeing sort of bubble over on the internet right now, I think a lot of it has to do with sort of inconsistency or hypocrisies that we see, not even from Jewish people, but from people uh from right wingers, you know, i in uh in Congress. | ||
| It's almost like Israel gives them this license to be hardcore about something, but they'll never do it for Americans, right? | ||
| When it comes to Israel, it's like where you're just gonna go kill everybody. | ||
| We're gonna, you know, I'm I'm talking about Lindsay Graham or Ted Cruz. | ||
| It's like something about Israel gives them the license to go hardcore and and almost be, you know, support an ethno state, support identity, where everywhere else and everywhere else it's it's interacted. | ||
| It's oh well, we can't do that, and well, let's let's walk carefully here. | ||
| It's like, well, they never feel that way with Israel. | ||
| So there's a there's an inconsistency there that again, I think I think grates on people. | ||
| It grates on me because I see so much being done for Israel by our federal government that they will never do for us. | ||
| So there's you know what I mean? | ||
| I don't know what you mean. | ||
| So I'd like you to unpack that last sentence. | ||
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I will. | |
| I see so many things that our government is doing for Israel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Give me a list of three. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| So one uh primary example would be like the university presidents being pressured and and some of them being fired. | ||
| I think is that Israel that's doing that? | ||
| Well, yeah, well, it's it's it's because they wouldn't crack down on anti-Israel protest on their campuses. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So university presidents, and what's number two? | ||
| Uh the TikTok ban would be another one. | ||
| I think uh I don't think TikTok What's the TikTok ban? | ||
| I think TikTok uh was banned because there was a lot of uh anti-Israel content going out, and they now have uh IDF uh soldier sort of overseeing them, and you know, as uh as Alex was talking about the Bibi Nanyahoo thing, calling it an eighth front. | ||
| Okay, and what's the third thing? | ||
| Uh third thing would be like uh protecting uh our border versus you know sending weapons to Israel and how you know willing we are like you'll have the same people in our uh in our government say it's immoral to close the border. | ||
| We have to allow people in, but they're you know hardcore about uh you know Israel's border. | ||
| I gotta add a fourth one, which is the three billion dollars a year in military aid to Israel. | ||
| Well, I don't like that either. | ||
| But but it's more it's more about okay, we for a decade have been going, hey, these universities are teaching anti-white stuff. | ||
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Right. | |
| They've got entire classes called, you know, the problem with whiteness and how to eradicate it. | ||
| We can never even get a congressman to even acknowledge us, let alone do something. | ||
| Then when it becomes, oh, there's anti, you know, there's pro-Palestine protest on the campus, it suddenly the federal government is like gonna shut the school down if they don't immediately do something. | ||
| And so again, it's not even it's like it's almost like if we were getting everything we want and that was happening, I wouldn't have a problem with it. | ||
| It's the inconsistency of the federal government when it comes to serving the American people, ah, our hands are tied, gee, we'd love to, but just we can't. | ||
| And then when it comes to something Israel wants, it's like boom, it's done. | ||
| Because TikTok's another good example. | ||
| Trump's first administration, they tried a TikTok ban, didn't go anywhere, didn't even, I don't even think it went to a vote. | ||
| Nothing happened. | ||
| Uh then you've got Nikki Haley going up and saying f every 15 minutes you spend on TikTok, you're 30% more anti-Semitic or whatever it was. | ||
| And it's like TikTok gets banned two weeks later. | ||
| So uh again, it's it's not even necessarily the things that are happening. | ||
| It's the discrepancy between the speed and power with which the federal government will move when it comes to Israel's benefit, you know, something that benefits Israel. | ||
| But when it comes to Americans, we we cannot get any benefits out of our government. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I've got thoughts on all four of those, if I may. | ||
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Sure. | |
| The first is on the University President. | ||
| I'm surprised, you know, and I I never heard of that phrase as an Israel favor before. | ||
| I mean, there is anti-Semitism on campuses, and in my observation, it's in substantial part from foreign students, not can not American citizens, but foreigners. | ||
| And I think that this is a two-fold thing. | ||
| I think this is how to get those deportation numbers up. | ||
| And frankly, being pro-Hamas, I put it to you. | ||
| I mean, that is anti-Jewish, and I suppose it is anti-Israel, obviously, but it's also a proxy for being anti-Western. | ||
| And I mean, there's been some of these people who are it who have been caught up in this dragnet. | ||
| I mean, could you have a blatantly anti-black protest at a campus that got federal funds? | ||
| Like if it was just as anti-black as these are anti-Jewish. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| But I I saw that as a way for the White House to get foreign nationals who are here to undermine and like basically foreign radicals to get them out. | ||
| Didn't apply to American citizens. | ||
| I sort of like that just as a deportation move of getting Hamas types out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I I don't I never thought of it as a favorite Israel. | ||
| I thought of it as a way to get the radicals out of these schools. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe maybe you you you're saying I'm not disputing what you're saying. | ||
| I mean, it didn't feel like an Israel move. | ||
| It felt like a get the bad people out of America move. | ||
| Well, with the with the Harvard one, it was even before that because it, you know, they predicated on her, you know, being a DEI supporter or uh plagiarizing or something. | ||
| But you know, it's that's sort of just the excuse, but really it was, you know, because they wouldn't crack down the Palestinian protest. | ||
| And like, you know, I think it wasn't really the Palestinian protest. | ||
| Was it uh anti-Jewish? | ||
| And there's a different thing. | ||
| And and you're saying, well, look at my my pleading, special pleading for the Jews. | ||
| No, if it was like I I have to believe, and I do believe that if the kind of crazy anti-Jewish stuff that I mean, I went to Columbia to check it out. | ||
| I went to another Fashion Institute of Technology in New York when it happened there. | ||
| Like I went to some of these schools. | ||
| It was I went to University of Toronto, my own country. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| And I thought to myself, what if they swapped in the word black for Jews or Israel? | ||
| Would that be allowed? | ||
| Well, and I don't think so. | ||
| Like I think that would be a National Guard moment. | ||
| Well, you know, I I agree with you, but what if they swiped the word Jew for white? | ||
| I think it would still be federal funds and nobody would care. | ||
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| But I'm with you on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I I So again, it's it, you know, like I said, it's not even necessarily that it's like why is the government doing this for them? | ||
| It's like, why can we not get anything done for us when Israel can get something? | ||
| I think the Trump administration is going absolutely full tilt against DEI. | ||
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| So the same so the same administration that's going after Columbia and Harvard for their anti-Jewish I think it does violate civil rights. | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| They're also going after DEI. | ||
| They're also going after Harvard on admissions. | ||
| So I think they are. | ||
| I mean, would you I mean tell me you're the American here? | ||
| Would you not agree that Trump has been like I think he even uses like having even the symbolic boar farmers from South Africa come as refugees? | ||
| Like you No, that was that was amazing. | ||
| That was beautiful. | ||
| Like don't you think that's symbolic of this administration? | ||
| So uh again, I think this is this is one of the things I see because like Avi Yemeni, amazing video we just saw. | ||
| I've always been a big fan of him. | ||
| He's very fearless and just goes sort of right into the lion's den. | ||
| I I really appreciate and respect that. | ||
| Uh but you know, I've seen him in Australia uh sort of, you know, trying to argue against or or stand up against the national I guess they're the national socialists there, or whoever it is. | ||
| And I feel like there's a lot of times where white people in particular, Christians, Native, you know, Americans and Europeans want to stand up for themselves against the Muslim immigration against you know being swamped. | ||
| And a lot of times it's Jewish people that are going, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're we're going down a dangerous road here. | ||
| Nazism lies at the end of it. | ||
| And and so then they're I I know Abi pretty well, and I think he shares my view against immigration. | ||
| I I think there were some actual Nazis there. | ||
| That rally, if it's the same rally, and if it's the same rally we're talking about, the one that happened about a month ago, that was a pro-Australia anti-immigration rally. | ||
| It was an anti-immigration rally. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it was a mass rally. | ||
| And then there were like 15 Nazis who on this one occasion didn't have their armbands, so they could sort of sneak in and say this is our big event. | ||
| And they actually managed to get some press. | ||
| Oh my God, the Nazis have 100,000 people. | ||
| No, they had 12 and they were driven out by the others. | ||
| I I don't think rebel news or me or Avi could possibly be called open borders or like I I just think you may have misapprehended. | ||
| Well, so so then how do like Europeans advocate for themselves without like uh you know you don't have to be a Nazi to call for the end of immigration? | ||
| Well, but it but if you you know are explicitly saying we are white, we we want we want to live around white people, that is interpreted as a nazi. | ||
| Well, I mean, I suppose you have to you know be thoughtful about your wording. | ||
| I was I I've been in Ireland a half dozen times in the last year and a half. | ||
| It's an amazing country. | ||
| It's a very small country, five million souls. | ||
| Uh and I I love using the phrase indigenous Irish because they've been there for centuries. | ||
| Literally what they are, yeah. | ||
| And it mass immigration is happening so quickly that how could it be taken as anything but replacement migration? | ||
| And I just threw out a document here, or where did I have it? | ||
| That's not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| It's on the UN, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's an actual like it's a thing. | ||
| And and by the way, leftist politicians often boast of it as a thing. | ||
| And there's different I I guess there's different ways in in saying it. | ||
| And you have to be thoughtful, and you have to win people over. | ||
| I was in Ireland, and I was in the midst of a uh protest of 30,000 people against mass immigration. | ||
| Not a single media organization supported them, not a single mainstream political party supported them, and yet 30,000 in a country the size of Ireland square something in the sea. | ||
| I did bump into one actual Nazi there. | ||
| I don't know if you're I think I saw I've seen that video, yeah. | ||
| And I don't want to talk to you. | ||
| And I just went right up to him because the police were picking on some guy. | ||
| I had no idea who it was. | ||
| I go up to him and say, what did the police have to say to you? | ||
| I don't talk to Jews. | ||
| You know, it's actually a hella, yeah. | ||
| It's actually a hella video if your friends want to pull it up. | ||
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| And I just what? | ||
| And I did I I know, yeah. | ||
| I thought you hits of what you're just saying. | ||
| It's weird, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like I was there as an ally of like I was there to give our rebel news is, you know, we got 1.8 million YouTube subscribers. | ||
| It's not as big as you guys, but we're big-ish, and they didn't have any media coverage. | ||
| And I'm and I regard I'm I don't know a lot about Ireland, but I'm learning. | ||
| So I go there as a friend, and I got a hundred people just really happy to see me. | ||
| And this one guy who actually said he was a national socialist. | ||
| I don't talk to Jews. | ||
| The Jews have done no faud. | ||
| I'm just like, for God's sakes, it's not, it's like I was saying to Alex, it's like the Rorschach Inc. | ||
| plot. | ||
| Jews, Jews, Jews. | ||
| It's not always a Jewish thing. | ||
| I just came over, in fact, I was out of concern. | ||
| Like the cops had zeroed in on this guy, and I I'm a free speech guy, and I I was like, what were they picking you on? | ||
| All right, you Jew. | ||
| I mean, so my point to you is you maybe don't be so frickin' crazy. | ||
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| And this guy thinks that the Irish are at any time going to rise up and support him and make him their furor or something. | ||
| No, they're not, because you're an idiot. | ||
| Now, how about just be smarter about it? | ||
| Let me quickly go to your other issues. | ||
| TikTok. | ||
| You know, until five minutes ago, TikTok was controlled by China, which controls the algorithm. | ||
| I just wish some of the folks who are squawking today um would show 1% the outrage when it was owned by communist China. | ||
| Um and I guess my last point, which I made, not you. | ||
| Oh, you know, you talked about double standard about being hardcore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you wish that the American immigration system and citizenship process was as hardcore as Israel's is in terms of is that what you're saying? | ||
| Or not no military stuff? | ||
| No. | ||
| Because I think you might be cute confusing Ukraine because Russia, America's given an enormous amount of weaponry to Ukraine, and um and there's some senators who seem very excited about fighting Russia. | ||
| And I and I'm not taking, I'm not expressing a viewpoint on that war. | ||
| I'm just saying, like Lindsay Graham and the and the the late John McCain, that they were almost elated about a conflict. | ||
| They see it as a way to trap Russia in a proxy war. | ||
| And maybe maybe they're right. | ||
| But the reason I added Israel's three billion dollars of aid a year is because for that $3 billion of aid, America does has no military base in Israel. | ||
| Um there are military bases in Qatar, that's the largest base in the Middle East, $10 billion a year the American taxpayers spend on it. | ||
| The U.S. taxpayers spent about 50 billion a year patrolling the Persian Gulf Sea Lanes. | ||
| Who's that for? | ||
| That's for the oil-producing Sunni Muslim countries. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's not for the Jews. | ||
| Um There's American bases around the world. | ||
| Like, oh, Israel gets the most military aid, really? | ||
| More than Germany, which is 40 U.S. bases. | ||
| I guess it's more like, you know, it my complaint is more like somebody like Ben Shapiro who makes his whole brand being uh against identity politics, but when it comes to Israel, he's like, it must be a Jewish nation forever. | ||
| And it's like, okay, that is that's a hypocrisy there. | ||
| That that's there's about 50 countries in the world that have an ethnicity hard or religion hardwired in their constitution. | ||
| Most of them are Muslim. | ||
| It won't surprise you to hear. | ||
| Um, but there are some Christian countries, Greece is one of them, Armenia is one of them, even the United Kingdom. | ||
| Uh, the Church of England is part of their state. | ||
| There is no separation between church and state. | ||
| The king is the head of the uh church region. | ||
| Yeah, he's still the Pope, yeah. | ||
| And so I I think that it is okay and it is normal to have an ethnicity. | ||
| Now you want to think about that. | ||
| Like Suela Braverman, who's this conservative anti-immigration former cabinet minister in the UK, she had a very interesting tweet today. | ||
| Maybe your friends could find it. | ||
| She said, I'm not English. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I'm a proud British Asian. | ||
| I thought, isn't that interesting? | ||
| Because of course she's not indigenous English. | ||
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| From the Angles and the Saxons and the Normans and the Of course, okay. | ||
| She's saying something that's obvious. | ||
| It's not shocking. | ||
| She's a brown woman. | ||
| So of course she's not indigenous English, but she's something. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Oh, this is can I you want to see just a minute of? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing. | ||
| This is the little Nazi I bummed. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| And I tell you, I promise you, I went, I was bored. | ||
| We were waiting for this huge protest to start. | ||
| We had just missed uh Connor McGregor, who had been there. | ||
| We just missed him. | ||
| And we were all milling around waiting for this giant rally to start. | ||
| I had no clue who the who this pint-sized guy was. | ||
| I saw the cops going over there looking menacing, and I was sympathetic. | ||
| And I walk up. | ||
| Can you just play a minute? | ||
| Well, we'll go to that because we got to go to commercial. | ||
| We meant to we meant to go to calls. | ||
| You know what they would do? | ||
| Shut up, let's take the cost. | ||
| Let's take the calls. | ||
| Well, we gotta go to break. | ||
| We got a 30-second break, then we're gonna be back on the other side. | ||
| Well, we'll do that on the other side of uh the short commercial break. | ||
| And remember to go to the Alex Jones store.com. | ||
| You're not getting conversations uh like this anywhere else in the world, folks. | ||
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| Please won't you help us by going to the Alex Jones store.com. | ||
| We'll be right back on the other side more with Ezra Levant, Rebelnews.com. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Second hour with Ezra Ezra Levant. | ||
| I don't know why I can't say your name. | ||
| Ezra Levant. | ||
| It's the R and the L. I mix I mix them up. | ||
| Ezra Levant is here in studio with us. | ||
| Rebelnews.com is where you can go to find all of his incredible work. | ||
| And it really is incredible. | ||
| And again, I, you know, I'm glad we're having this conversation. | ||
| I really feel like these conversations are necessary because when you go on the internet, it just becomes this divisive thing where half the time being pressured by Nazis, half time being pressured by Jews, and I'm just like, I'm trying to get to the truth here, and I'm trying to try to figure out the way forward. | ||
| But before we go out to calls, because I do want to go out to co calls right now. | ||
| Like one thing I see is I think Israel is really going down a bad slope right now. | ||
| I mean, they got all the EU turning against them, you know, claiming that they're you know, claiming they're going to recognize Palestine, stopping weapon shipments. | ||
| Uh a lot of the American populace, especially the young people are turned against Israel now. | ||
| I mean, I sort of struggle to see how they regain their footing after this, because I think what's gone on in Gaza has been so horrifying to people, and the videos have come out so regularly for so long. | ||
| I mean, you know, in the early on, I was going, hey, Israel should not be doing this. | ||
| You know, they're bombing hospitals and churches or you know, schools. | ||
| This isn't good. | ||
| Uh I got called an anti-Semite then, but now we are, you know, nearly two years down the road, and it's like, yeah, this is not, it's not going well for Israel right now. | ||
| I mean, how do you how do you take that criticism? | ||
| Now you mean not of you, obviously, but of Israel and and uh they uh how they represent the Jewish people on the world stage. | ||
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| Now I don't live in Israel. | ||
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| I'm an Israeli, of course. | ||
| But I do pay a little bit of attention to what they say about this. | ||
| So maybe I I can try and answer um for maybe the different viewpoint from let's say Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, which is so you said it's not going well at all. | ||
| So in the last two years, there was the massacre Of October 7th, which was terrible. | ||
| And then the psychic stress of having these hostages underground. | ||
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| Terrible. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| Um, Europe has become even more anti-Israel. | ||
| I'm not sure what it means to recognize a country. | ||
| So far, none of them I I saw Spain had was talking about moving its diplomats, and Israel said, okay, if you're having Palestinian diplomats, they have to be in Ramallah. | ||
| And none of the Spanish diplomats wanted to leave Israel to go move to a really I've been to Ramallah. | ||
| It's not uh a diplomat-friendly place. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what does it mean when Canada, my country, recognizes Palestine? | ||
| What so who's the leader? | ||
| Who's the who's what's the constitution? | ||
| What are the borders? | ||
| Like what does it mean other than it's uh the ultimate virtue signal? | ||
| I mean, you know it's I d no, I think I think that's what it is. | ||
| I think it's a signal, yeah. | ||
| But from Israel's point of view, you might hear this. | ||
| Okay, so Iran has lost a lot of their generals, has had a lot of their ICBMs nuked, or not nuked, destroyed, and had their nuclear program set back, if not eliminated. | ||
| Hezbollah, which was uh actually probably the most dangerous force of all a hundred thousand rockets, completely decapitated in what can only be called a miraculous move of espionage, like the pagers and then the the precise bombing of their lead. | ||
| Like that was without a fight. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Hezbollah retreating from Lebanon and Hamas has been decimated. | ||
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| But all these threats against Israel have been smashed. | ||
| And the the the big risk being from Iran. | ||
| So I think, yes, diplomatically, politically, it hasn't gone well if your measurement is how's it looking online? | ||
| It's looking really bad online, online, online. | ||
| And you and I spent an enormous amount of time online. | ||
| But they're living real life stuff now, and I think militarily Israel's never been stronger. | ||
| And then what happened yesterday at the White House? | ||
| Netanyahu agreed that if Hamas really does pack up shop, Israel will r remove itself in stages and there will be a new kind of Gaza there. | ||
| Now I don't think it's gonna happen, because I think Hamas is relentless. | ||
| I think they really are like Nazis with the religious layer on top of it too. | ||
| So I I think that there's some uh pie in the sky. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe Qatar can wrangle them. | ||
| But if that comes to pass, if the war ends, if an attempt to replicate Dubai is made in Gaza, how has Israel not won in every meaningful way? | ||
| I mean Oh shoot, sorry, we're going to break. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| All right, welcome back, folks. | ||
| Uh big thank you to Ezra Levant for staying with us for uh two hours. | ||
| He was with Alex for like over an hour, so thank you so much for for staying with us. | ||
| And we're gonna go directly out to your calls and uh and just hear directly from the audience, and we'll go whoever called in first. | ||
| First, we'll go to Jay in Ohio, who's been holding for a while. | ||
| Is this uh is this Jay our our truck driver friend? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How are you doing, Jay? | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Jewish truck driver. | ||
| Our Jewish truck driver friend, yes, sir. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And uh Shonatova, I know I'm a little late and hope young Kippa comes better. | ||
| Um I did have a question. | ||
| Uh I went to uh a dinner there for uh Russia Shana, and I'm a bit of a rebel, and I wore uh a black info war shirt there with the black letters on it and uh and info war hat. | ||
| I had a young I had a Yamaka underneath, but anyways, I'm a little bit of a rebel. | ||
| And uh we were sitting there and I was asked if I was the uh an infomercial, you know, for uh uh somebody, you know, advertising for info wars. | ||
| And I said, no, but I I I like info wars, and there are people there that did, and the rabbi is pretty cool and anyways, um there was a guy there, and I I've been meaning to ask the rabbi um there was a man that he had like uh a swath sticker on on a button on his lapel, and he was an older gentleman, and he had like uh different medals and whatnot, and he was an older guy. | ||
| I thought Alex might have been able to give a little history on that or Ezra on on the swath sticker and how it pertained. | ||
| I mean, this was an orthodox event. | ||
| And I felt a little uh like what what is what is this guy doing here with this this sloth sticker on a lapel? | ||
| Well, you and then the the other. | ||
| No, no, you go ahead. | ||
| Okay, then the other thing was you mentioned uh Tucker and you know the the guy that the man at the table we were sitting at, he said, I'll bet you like Tucker Carlson. | ||
| I said, Yeah, I do like Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Oh, he's an anti-Semite. | ||
| Well, I've seen you on his program, and I've seen a lot of his you know, I I followed Tucker on X and I've seen a lot of his um interviews. | ||
| I I I must say I listened to Alex's program ten hours a day most days because I'm on the road. | ||
| But I when so when I went home that night, just pays I put on the interview of the uh what he spoke about on Charlie Kirk about eating Hama hummus and and you know, and they and that they they they k they killed Jesus. | ||
| Well, look I no offense to anybody, but any time I hear Jesus, I just recognize growing up where I where I grew up. | ||
| That's God, you know, but but it's just a different name. | ||
| Hashem, uh I I don't know, you know, whatever you want to call God. | ||
| And I I only believe, of course, because I'm Jewish and one God, and and I I don't see that I need to go through the thing. | ||
| So how did you so how did you feel about about Tucker's comments uh when you saw them? | ||
| Well, I watched it, and to be honest with you, you know, everybody ate hummus back then. | ||
| I mean, the the Arabs, the Jews, and you know and I still eat hummus and I love it. | ||
| So but you know, he was kind of you know what I felt? | ||
| I felt like you know, I felt I I can I I can relate and understand how the man I was sitting with didn't particularly care the way he put the blame on the Jews for killing Jesus. | ||
| But I I in my belief, my understanding, there's one God, and and and I got nothing against Jesus. | ||
| If you want to believe in Jesus, I say, God bless. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Well, thank you thank you. | ||
| Thank you for the call, Jay. | ||
| Uh you know, we always we always appreciate your calls. | ||
| And uh, and of course, Jay is one of uh, you know, our many Jewish audience members that uh, you know, I think about any time we talk about Jews in the recognition that hey, there are people listening to me right now that agree with me and don't deserve to be lumped in with the likes of any of any of the the bad people bad people you'd like to name like Jonathan Greenblatt. | ||
| Um what did you think? | ||
| Because I I sort of under I I maybe maybe I'm being naive or missing the the dog whistle or whatever, but I sort of understood what Tucker was saying as just purely about what a terrible idea it was to think that killing somebody would stop their ideas in the sense that you think you're gonna kill Jesus and that'll be that, and you know, by Monday everybody will have forgotten, and two thousand years later we're still counting, you know, the years by from when he was born. | ||
| So that's how I understood it, but I could also understand how it could be a uh a dog whistle of sorts. | ||
| As I said to Alex earlier today, for many years Tucker Carlson was my absolute hero. | ||
| I I count appearing on his show a few times as some career highlights. | ||
| I really looked up to him in many ways. | ||
| But you know, enough facts have presented that my theory about him has to change. | ||
| And I don't understand why he has changed his compass. | ||
| A crass accusation would be cash. | ||
| I find that hard to believe because I think he's wealthy and I I don't think he's I mean, he's enough that he doesn't need to be greedy. | ||
| Is that I don't know what it is. | ||
| Is it revenge against someone who treated him poorly, whether that's the Murdochs or whether it's I don't know. | ||
| I cannot calculate, I cannot make sense why Tucker has now taken like the other day I saw him talk about Sharia law. | ||
| I don't know if you saw that clip. | ||
| And he said, look on the streets of um forget which Arab country he was referring to, and he said, you know, it's safe, you don't have to lock your car, women aren't raped. | ||
| Who wouldn't want that? | ||
| Well, yeah, brother, that's like maybe one aspect of Sharia, but actually that be that's because women can't go out under their without being totally covered and without their male guardian there. | ||
| Like there's a lot of real obvious arguments against that, but Tucker knows that. | ||
| I've seen Tucker rail against that. | ||
| How can you make a 180 degree shift? | ||
| And that's why I'm very troubled by it is because I I'm a I'm uh the original Tucker super fan, right, who now is I'm shaken in my faith in him. | ||
| And I I don't want to call him an anti-Semite. | ||
| I hate throwing that around casually, but because I've seen so many things that make me raise an eyebrow, when I saw that comment, I thought, why are you at the moment there burying this man in front of his widow, making an implication that the Jews did it? | ||
| Because there's all these wild accusations that Israel did it. | ||
| And and some of the accusations are completely baseless, Candace Owens saying. | ||
| I know his final thoughts in the letter. | ||
| Well, the letter to Benjamin Netanyahu was finally released. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I I mean Candace is someone else that I I sort of looked up to, but she's gone totally cuckoo. | ||
| Like she's saying there's not even such a thing as Jews there. | ||
| Frank is and this like I just like I feel like the woman is reading Wikipedia for an hour at night and then stretches it another standard deviation and then speaks it with great like I I don't know what the hell is going on there. | ||
| And that's one of the reasons I wanted to go come on Alex's show, because I know that in my one hour with him and my two hours with you, I'm not going to convert any Semites into Jew lovers. | ||
| I'm not going to change people's mind in a deep way. | ||
| So I would be a fool to try. | ||
| But I am trying to leave two ideas out there, and you've heard me say them a few times. | ||
| One is don't make the mistake of the left in imputing a collective guilt or a collective mindset. | ||
| Jews, as we just heard, well, you just had a Jewish Alex Jones supporter, a big time Alex Jones supporter, going to a Jewish event, decked out head to toe and in Alex Jones swag. | ||
| That's a uh beautiful thing. | ||
| That's a 10 out of 10 Alex Jones supporter. | ||
| How can you say that man is cut from the same cloth as Alex Soros? | ||
| On paper, they're both Jews. | ||
| But now he he used the word, I don't know if you heard it, he said Russia Shuna. | ||
| That's the Jewish word for how so he was saying a few things about it's a Jewish high holiday. | ||
| I don't think Alex Jones even knows sorry, I don't think Alex Soros even knows how to say those words. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So can you really say take the sins of George and Alex Soros and put them on that friendly trucker? | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| And to do so is to offend one of the key values of our side of the argument, which is to treat people as individuals. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Listen, I know that Jews on the whole tilt liberal. | ||
| I'm not dumb. | ||
| Just like blacks and Hispanics do. | ||
| But, you know, take people as they come. | ||
| And I've lived my life as a freedom fighter in a in a smaller footprint than Alex, Jones, but I I feel a camaraderie. | ||
| And so I want anyone who's watching in good faith to use that one device is don't say the Jews. | ||
| Because it wasn't all the Jews. | ||
| And it may not have even been a Jewish impulse. | ||
| It could have just been a Jew by coincidence. | ||
| And the second thing is do not use the Jews did it, Israel did it, as an excuse for everything else. | ||
| And with great respect, I think you did that a tiny bit today too. | ||
| And here's what I mean. | ||
| How come Israel gets all this support from U.S. senators and America as we can't do the same thing? | ||
| How come Israel's allowed to have maybe an ethnic policy, but America isn't? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What are you doing about? | ||
| It's your country. | ||
| That that little Nazi I bumped into in Ireland basically said the Jews have brought the downfall of Ireland. | ||
| There are 2,000 Jews in Ireland of a country of five million. | ||
| It's not even.1%. | ||
| There has not been a Jew in the Irish Parliament in over a decade. | ||
| If there is a problem in Ireland, which there is, and I love Ireland, and I want Ireland to fix its problems. | ||
| I want Ireland to stop the deracination of its own people. | ||
| It breaks my heart, the de-irishing of that country. | ||
| And I say this as a foreigner. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But for him to say the Jews did it. | ||
| No, brother. | ||
| A parliament of Irishmen did it. | ||
| And he oh, but the Jews are pulling the strings. | ||
| Are they really? | ||
| If so, can you not have a vote in your parliament? | ||
| Like, at what point, how Jew-free does your country have to be before you can say, you know what? | ||
| Maybe we open the door. | ||
| It wasn't the Jews. | ||
| Well, I'll just, you know, to play the devil's advocate here, the the argument is like, well, we have the ADL training our FBI, and they say that, you know, it's it's not that, oh, Nazis are bad. | ||
| They say, you know, signs that say it's okay to be white are bad. | ||
| So we have this institutional force that is suppressing the ability of you know native white Christian people to take their own side. | ||
| And that is another thing that I I don't even it's not even that I'm like, oh, I want to be like Israel or like they get to have it and we don't, and that's not fair. | ||
| It's there's something about it that when it comes to Republicans, they have been trained, you know, like Pavlovian, it's like you know, they're like dogs, they like cannot support Americans, especially not when it comes to like they I mean they stripped Steve King of his uh, You know, committee meetings because he was like, yeah, white people aren't that bad. | ||
| What's the big deal? | ||
| And you know, the Republicans lead the charge on stripping him of his uh committee meeting. | ||
| So it's Jews white or not. | ||
| Well, I don't I don't know. | ||
| Well, what do you think? | ||
| Do I look white to you? | ||
| Well, you you look white, like you look like if if it was a if it was a dichotomy between you know black and white, I think uh or you know, not white and white. | ||
| Are there any so are there is it just the Jews who are doing this anti-white thing? | ||
| Because I know I don't do the anti-white. | ||
| No, and there's a lot of white people that are anti-white. | ||
| And is there anyone else, of course? | ||
| But but again, what are the political pressure? | ||
| So the Jews. | ||
| Yeah, I listen, we've already agreed that the ADL are the bad guys. | ||
| I've shown you the proof of our team in action exposing that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um I think that everyone has to find their courage. | ||
| So I'm a nationalist populist. | ||
| And and by the way, that applies to the Jews too. | ||
| The Jews have a historical homeland. | ||
| Look, read the Bible. | ||
| Uh the Jews also won it through a grant from the United Nations. | ||
| The Jews also won it in a series of wars. | ||
| That's three ways the Jews own Israel. | ||
| Now you could argue about the borders, and that's being done. | ||
| By the way, to answer your question from half an hour ago, I think if this peace deal sticks, Israel would be in a in a in a golden age because this political military terrorist soar will be over. | ||
| Wouldn't it be something if it was the new Dubai? | ||
| Iran has been taken down a notch. | ||
| There's a reason why United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia are warm to Israel because they were worried about Iran. | ||
| And they also want to move forward from this hate. | ||
| You know, I saw an interesting post by Dominic Cummings that senior people in the UAE say, don't send your kids to London to go to school because they'll come back radicalized. | ||
| They ban the Muslim Brotherhood in the UAE. | ||
| And like half the people that fought for ISIS were literally from Europe. | ||
| It was like a training ground. | ||
| I was in, I went to Iraq. | ||
| I went to the Nineveh Plain. | ||
| We crowdfunded some money to get some Christians out of there because they were being persecuted by ISTIS. | ||
| And then the next Iranian Islamic terrorist group called Hashtel Shabi. | ||
| So I went over there and I was in this tiny town called um oh I forget it. | ||
| It's such a tiny, it it means house of dirt. | ||
| Uh I'm trying to remember how to say that in Arabic. | ||
| And I went into a church, because these were all Christian towns that ISIS had come in and spray painted with a stencil on the wall, basically get out, convert or die. | ||
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| And in the church, ISIS had snapped every cross. | ||
| Like they made a point of breaking every single cross. | ||
| They went to the cemetery and broke all the crosses there. | ||
| Here's what shocked me. | ||
| The graffiti in this church, do you know what language it was in? | ||
| It was in German. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because the terrorists who had gone to to this buttons, I forget the name of that town, I can't say it now. | ||
| Were from Europe. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Their first language was German. | ||
| And they had come to build this caliphate. | ||
| And imagine if Germany and France and England are more radical than the UAE, which is very much true. | ||
| Jews walk around the UAE. | ||
| I spoke to a rabbi in Dubai. | ||
| He says he has more hassle on the streets of New York. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then in Dubai. | ||
| How's that even possible? | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| So to answer your question, I think there's hope in the Middle East. | ||
| And I'm extremely online too. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But there's more than just the echo chamber. | ||
| There's reality on the ground. | ||
| And sometimes, by the way, countries put out statements for political consumption. | ||
| And the Arab states have to tip their hat to Palestine. | ||
| And of course they're upset by the images of innocence being caught in a war. | ||
| Of course they are. | ||
| But they also know, and there's a reason that not a single Arab state has taken Palestinian refugees. | ||
| There's a reason for that, my friend. | ||
| And uh I think that there's a chance with this Trump peace deal to actually have a regional peace. | ||
| He'll never get a bill prize for it. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| Um I would just say, you know, it's like when you say, like, well, why don't you, you know, why don't you vote, you know, or get in your parliaments, it's your people doing it. | ||
| Again, I just think there's there's this institutional push that is driven by organizations like the ADL that I know we don't like, but you know, they couch their their actions on, you know, being representative of uh of Jewish people. | ||
| So again, I think there's a frustration. | ||
| Okay, besides the ADL, who says there's well APAC would be another one that they're pack is uh an anti-white organization? | ||
| Well, you know, tell me one thing they've done at anti-white. | ||
| I'm not an expert of APAC, I'm not a member. | ||
| Well, again, it's not it's not that they well, I'm I'm sure I could find something, but it's not that necessarily it's a very important thing. | ||
| I acknowledge that the well, I hate the ADL because they hijacked the word Jewish and weaponize it. | ||
| We agree on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| APAC to me is just uh one of a gazillion lobby groups and PACs trying to move legislation in in America. | ||
| I've never heard of them being accused of being anti-white before. | ||
| Well, again, you you've got you know Thomas Massey saying that everybody's got an APAC handler, and and we see the way that sort of what is like when Benjamin Anyahoo walks into Congress, he gets a standing ovation from both sides of the aisle. | ||
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| So it it does it feels like okay, how can we not no American president will ever get loyalty from both sides of the aisle, but the Israeli president commands is uh loyalty from both sides of the aisle. | ||
| So again, it's not even it's not even a Zelensky can't has Zelensky ever spoken. | ||
| Yeah, he probably he probably would too. | ||
| Okay, so and I again I'm trying because you're being categorical, no one else. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I can think of a few. | ||
| Well, no, no, I'm I'm I'm saying no American president. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You know what? | ||
| I I want to tell you something I did when I was a teenager. | ||
| I actually attended one APAC meeting. | ||
| I think I was 17. | ||
| And so I think I know exactly what Thomas Massey's talking about. | ||
| Can I tell you a little bit about my one visit to an APAC conference? | ||
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Sure. | |
| So I was a teenager and uh and I came to Washington, it was very excited. | ||
| I was a Canadian, so I don't know what I was doing. | ||
| But um I was assigned because I was from Calgary. | ||
| I was assigned to the group from I think it was Oregon. | ||
| So basically you had a couple thousand Jews coming to Washington to learn about Israel issues, and then they had a lobby day where everyone was directed to the congressman or senator in their region. | ||
| So if you have 2,000 Jews from across America, okay, you ten go to this congressman, you go to that one. | ||
| And one of those people would be, they wouldn't use the word handler. | ||
| That word is chosen because it sounds like you're a paid minder. | ||
| There was someone who would sort of volunteer and be, yeah, I'll be the contact. | ||
| I'll be the one who reminds our congressman that in his district there's a thousand Jews, or to remind him that in his district or people care this way. | ||
| That's what Massey means by a handler. | ||
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Well, so it's not it's not a Mossad foreign. | |
| It's not a it's an American citizen, yeah. | ||
| And my memory, it's now 38 years ago when I went as a teenager, and I remember I was with the Oregon delegation for some reason. | ||
| It was a it was like a mum or a dad who they were really excited and a little nervous, and they sort of agreed that once in a while they would send an email. | ||
| And that's what a handler is. | ||
| The way Massey talks about it, it's like some massage spy. | ||
| Well, it's well, it's but it's also the way APAC talks. | ||
| But you know, APAC will put up a thing going on. | ||
| Of course, you know, 99% of our candidates got got elected. | ||
| Well, why would they say that? | ||
| Now they could say that because it's true, or they could say that because they're in the fundraising business, and if they look weak or powerless, who's going to give to them? | ||
| And so and then one of the things that's Well, but it's not, but it but it is real, right? | ||
| I mean, they're not. | ||
| Would Ted Cruz be re-elected with without APAC money? | ||
| Uh I don't know. | ||
| You don't know? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You don't you think that Ted Cruz is so on the edge that if it weren't for APAC, he wouldn't win? | ||
| I think he barely squeaked by last time. | ||
| I put it to you that APAC, like every other fundraising organization, is a specialist at asking for money and sounding like a buffer fish bigger than the and I'm not denying that APAC is powerful. | ||
| But I would also put to you that every other country in the world does this too, including in recent years, Qatar. | ||
| Well, uh, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm sure other other they also also have to uh register for Farah, which APAC doesn't register. | ||
| APAC are Americans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I was I I was with a bunch of mums and dads. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I I get that. | ||
| But again, it's it's it's the fact that like, okay, we have fought like hell, we got Trump elected, and then it feels like so much of the effort and the energy and the resources of Trump's second administration have gone towards Israel-centric uh topics. | ||
| I mean, it has I mean, you know, yes, they they're deporting people, but then you've got this hyper focus on we're gonna, you know, we're gonna go through people's social media, and if they're anti-Israel, they aren't gonna you know get into the country. | ||
| That's like that's that's not for us. | ||
| Pause for a second. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you have you actually changed the test, the litmus test there? | ||
| Anti-Israel. | ||
| Is that really the test, or is it pro-Hamas? | ||
| Because they're different things. | ||
| Are they? | ||
| Oh my God, they are. | ||
| If if you said I oppose Netanyahu, I oppose Israel. | ||
| By the way, some Jews would do that. | ||
| But if you if you are pro Hamas, pro-terrorist, you can be an American of any background and say, you've come to our country and you're supporting proscribed terrorist groups. | ||
| Get out. | ||
| That's I mean, is that a favorite of the Jews? | ||
| Well, I guess because Hamas hates the Jews the most. | ||
| But that's very dri it's very different to kick out a supporter of a terrorist group. | ||
| Then I mean Well, I I well, I just I mean the example. | ||
| It's not anti-Semitism, it's support for terrorists. | ||
| Uh the the examples I've seen, I think, I want to see the wording. | ||
| Explicit um, you know. | ||
| Well, but you you know, you can bend that. | ||
| You can go, well, you know, they're supporting Hamas because they're protesting for Palestinians and the Palestinians. | ||
| How about if there was a bunch of right now? | ||
| How there were a bunch of foreign students, international students, who were full-blown anti-black racists and they would burn a cross, maybe and wear white hoods, maybe instead of a kafia, wear a white hood. | ||
| Instead of, you know, uh chanting from the river to the sea, they were chanting some anti-black thing. | ||
| If foreign nationals came to America, went to universities and hounded blacks in the manner that these foreign nationals are coming to universities hounding Jews. | ||
| Do you think that those foreign nationals would have their visas stripped by Trump and kicked out? | ||
| I know they would. | ||
| Well, I but I'd say switch it to white, and the answer is no. | ||
| Well, see, that's where I'd like to differentiate, because I agree with you that anti-white bigotry is illegal, should be illegal. | ||
| It's again and by the way, look at Trump and his appointment, Harmit Dylan, the head of civil rights, very strong on these issues. | ||
| I mean, and taking the bad guys to court on these. | ||
| Don't elide the battle over whiteness, which you uh you've tried to hang around the Jews. | ||
| And I say I admit some Jews are anti-white. | ||
| But but I think saying APAC is an anti-white organization, I think that's a bridge too far. | ||
| Well, I would just I would say that. | ||
| I know the the ADL is, but they're awful, they're Obama types. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, I would just say that they that what APAC does is draws a bunch of again, the resources, energy, effort of our government away from things that actually would benefit or you know, affecting the government. | ||
| Okay, what resources? | ||
| Other than the three billion a year in in foreign aid to Israel, which is dwarfed by the military. | ||
| Like, I just can't get over the fact that America still has 40 bases in Germany and 50,000 troops there. | ||
| Do you think that's less than three billion that they give Israel every year? | ||
| You know that you know there's still American bases. | ||
| Well, you know why there's an American base in Cuba? | ||
| Because America wouldn't let go of that for more than a hundred years ago. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Amer the thing about Americans, God bless them, they protect my country, the greatest greatest freedom force in all of history. | ||
| America never leaves. | ||
| Trump wants Bagram Air Base again. | ||
| So we're going back to Afghanistan. | ||
| My point is, you you really think the three billion a year they're given to Israel is more than they give to I mean, look at the No, no, it's it's it's not necessarily about the about the foreign aid that we can't. | ||
| You'll have to go out to call. | ||
| We keep getting distracted. | ||
| We've got to go to calls. | ||
| We're going to call us on the next time, I promise. | ||
| Stay on the line. | ||
| We'll be right there. | ||
| All right, folks. | ||
| We actually are going to be joined by another guest, David Pine in the next hour. | ||
| So we're not gonna be do all three hours with Ezra Levant. | ||
| He is here for the this final segment, and we thank him so much for giving us so much of his time. | ||
| And uh and taking on these these questions and these issues that so often just get uh get bowled over and people get called names and these things never get discussed. | ||
| I think we need to discuss it for all of our sake. | ||
| So thank you, Ezra, for for being here. | ||
| And let's go out to the calls. | ||
| Terry in Minnesota is next in line. | ||
| Thank you so much for calling. | ||
| Thank you for holding. | ||
| I'm sorry, we're both just rambling on. | ||
| Uh Terry, you're on the air. | ||
| Hey, you guys are doing good at rambling. | ||
| Hey, what do you know, huh? | ||
| Um, I got a question for you. | ||
| I got a question for you, Ezra and uh uh Harrison Q, but Ezra for sure. | ||
| Um you say pretty much that this world is basically in confusion in Babylon because there's so much out there that people are basically heads are spinning. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| I'd say I mean when I especially when I hear the news out of the UK, I mean, it is so yes, the world is in absolute confusion, would be my take. | ||
| I think I think uh Ezra would probably agree. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that there was a quantum moment during COVID because so many institutions that we looked up to and trusted broke. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I think it uh it was a shock to many people. | ||
| Like even the way I deal with my own doctor, I'm a skeptic because he tried to sell me on a jab. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the the lines he used were not medical, they were like political. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where do you get your information from? | ||
| Facebook, you know, they make billions. | ||
| Like I just thought you're treating Me like I'm stupid. | ||
| I actually feel like I know more than you. | ||
| You're not giving me medical advice, you're giving me political advice. | ||
| That has changed forever, my view, not just of doctors, but of the whole medical system. | ||
| And now multiply that to the media, to professors, to the colleges of physicians and surgeons or whatever they're called down here. | ||
| Every single check and balance in our democracy failed. | ||
| Yours less so than in Canada. | ||
| In Canada, they brought in martial law when the truckers had a protest. | ||
| And they stole the bank accounts. | ||
| It was brutal. | ||
| Yeah, and so listen, man is confused. | ||
| We live in a confused state. | ||
| We're we're trying to seek out truth. | ||
| But then when everything we actually thought, okay, I know these ten things. | ||
| I'm safe with these ten things. | ||
| Let's go discover the world. | ||
| No, these are detonating now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that is so alienating. | ||
| And the problem is we need to trust some things. | ||
| It's too exhausting to go through life, doubting everything. | ||
| I told Alex that my favorite thing about him was that he was an omni-skeptic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that he challenges everything and he's not afraid to do so. | ||
| And he's so important for that role. | ||
| He's like the leader of the opposition in a way. | ||
| He opposes, and and once in a while it gets it wrong. | ||
| So what? | ||
| Someone had to oppose just to test it. | ||
| In our system, we we believe in the clash of ideas. | ||
| A scientific hypothesis. | ||
| If it fails, come up with a new one. | ||
| But my worry is in this world where we don't trust anything, do not fill the gap with the universal excuse. | ||
| Blame the Jews. | ||
| Blame the Jews. | ||
| The Jews did it. | ||
| The Jews did it. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| I'm not here to turn Jew haters into Jew lovers. | ||
| I'm here to tell people of good faith, be a little bit skeptical when people just blame the Jews. | ||
| Was it really a Jew? | ||
| And if he was Jewish, was it in his essence as a Jew, or was he, or was it just ancillary that he was Jewish? | ||
| And do not fall prey to the leftist mindset of blaming others for your own life because it's so easy to do. | ||
| Do not for 2,000 years, Jews have been blamed. | ||
| Don't blame them for something they didn't do. | ||
| Absolutely, 100%. | ||
| So what was your question here? | ||
| I think uh yeah, everybody, everybody is mixed up right now. | ||
| And and I think you're right. | ||
| I mean, my my take is actually different. | ||
| I think embrace embrace the uh uncertainty. | ||
| Just go, you know what? | ||
| Maybe I don't know what the truth is, but I'm gonna, you know, pursue what what I do know. | ||
| I was talking when uh all the AI stuff first started coming out, and people were making these pictures that were so incredible but totally fake. | ||
| My mom said, I just I'm not gonna be able to trust any pictures I see anymore. | ||
| And I go, You have you been? | ||
| Have you been trusting that you shouldn't have been? | ||
| For the last 20 years, you should have been looking at everything a sconce and going, this could be true or could not. | ||
| I'm gonna proceed as if both are possible. | ||
| So, Terry, what what's your uh what question were you getting to? | ||
| I don't think you finished your thought there. | ||
| Okay, here it is. | ||
| Buckle up. | ||
| The Jews of the tribe of Judah have been taking the wrap um for centuries as to what the Kenites, K-E-N-I-T-E-T-A-R-E-S, Kenite tears have wrought on this world. | ||
| Everybody blames the Jews. | ||
| We are talking about two separate peoples, and I'm I'm imploring both of you. | ||
| Uh, and I know there's a King James, a standard King James lying around the uh office of learning before Ezra leaves. | ||
| You track this challenge. | ||
| It's the key of David. | ||
| Um it's real quick. | ||
| Listen up. | ||
| Here it comes. | ||
| John 842 to 47, Revelation 29, 39, Matthew 2430, then jump to uh Matthew 13, 2430, then jump to 3443, Genesis 3, 19, 13 to 19, Ezekiel 28, 13, 1 Chronicles 255, 1 John 3, 10 and 12. | ||
| That nails down from God, not me, none of it, of what the hell we're talking about here, because the Jews are absolutely getting decimated by these people. | ||
| God warned of the Kenite since the garden. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And uh Kenite just means uh uh it it's basically uh was a Hebrew, um, the offspring of Cain. | ||
| We all know Cain was the first murderer. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Did he even have offspring? | ||
| So that the uh very very interesting question. | ||
| Thank you for that, Terry. | ||
| Uh, do you want to respond to that or should we go to that? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I I can't say I know what a Canaanite is, and I you know I've jotted the word down. | ||
| I didn't jot down all those other paragraphs, but I think that everyone should read. | ||
| And they should read the King James Version. | ||
| It's harder to read. | ||
| But the way it was written was very important too. | ||
| It was political decisions. | ||
| There was 24 people who I mean, imagine writing such an important book by committee. | ||
| It's almost impossible. | ||
| Uh I mean, because that was the the standard version. | ||
| And and that is one of the literary it's even if you you don't, even if you're not Jewish or Christian, it's a it is the key to understanding Western civilization. | ||
| It's it's a masterpiece. | ||
| And I I I was shocked because you know you grow up going to church and hearing all the stories, so you know them just you know, almost second nature. | ||
| But then, you know, probably 10 years ago, I went back and actually read the New Testament for the first time. | ||
| And it's like it's so much more human and yet so much more godly than you remember. | ||
| It's just the stories are so different than you hear in in preschool, you know, but that's what gets stuck in your head. | ||
| So I totally agree. | ||
| Everybody should should absolutely read that. | ||
| And that version, like the king, I mean, it maybe it's a little hard. | ||
| There's the new King James, which sort of updates the language, but you want the old it's the history of the West. | ||
| The history of Christianity is the history of the West. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I completely agree with that 100%. | ||
| Uh thanks so much for the call, Terry. | ||
| Really appreciate that. | ||
| Let's go to Dan in California next again on uh scripture. | ||
| Dan on line four. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| You're on the air with myself and Ezra Levant. | ||
| Yeah, thanks so much for having me, guys. | ||
| Um I wanted to bring it up. | ||
| The previous caller made a good comment. | ||
| So Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, all right. | ||
| And uh so we when we call out the Jews, we're not what we shouldn't be calling out the Jews. | ||
| I mean, John 40 uh 844 says Jesus confronts the religious leaders and says, You are of your father, the devil, and your will is to be to do your father's desires. | ||
| He was a murderer from the beginning. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so um we have to recognize that when we start labeling, you know, calling out saying it's the Jews, it's not the Jews. | ||
| Who does Satan want us to who does who does he want to persecute? | ||
| Well, of course the Jews, because he's he's everything out of Satan's mouth is a lie, right? | ||
| But we also got to remember and judges the failure to drive the Canaanite out. | ||
| God says Israel failed to expel the Canaanites and its inhabitants, and this of disobedience led to spiritual and moral compromise. | ||
| So we have to take that into account. | ||
| And so the there is, you know, in Matthew 21, it says, Therefore I say unto you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. | ||
| So is that the United States? | ||
| Is that is that who we are now? | ||
| I mean, it because it says that those will be grafted in that are not of the twelve tribes. | ||
| We are we are grafted in as Christians, okay. | ||
| And so the their fulfillment from God for the land has already been fulfilled. | ||
| And we can call, you know, Israel it God can defend Israel anytime he wants. | ||
| And it says the final battle that what happens is is that Israel be surrounded and the armies do not come to defend it. | ||
| And God returns at that point. | ||
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Right. | |
| I think that that's what a lot of uh, especially the evangelicals sort of look forward to, and and you know, it's behind a lot of their support of uh Israel. | ||
| Uh good comments on that, because you know, I if you read the Old Testament, it's it's sort of a constant, you know, there are Jews that are falling out of favor with God and they start worshiping cows and get get punished, and then there are good people that you know uh get the blessing of the Lord. | ||
| So, you know, there's a there's a constant sort of back and forth uh throughout the Old Testament. | ||
| Have you ever been to Israel? | ||
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No. | |
| Would you ever go? | ||
| And I'm not inviting you, I'm just saying, would you ever go? | ||
| I yeah, sure, why not? | ||
| I think it's it's an eye-opener for people who who think about Israel and talk about Israel as you do. | ||
| And I think the first thing is it's surprising. | ||
| It's very modern, very multiracial, very multicultural, which I think would surprise people. | ||
| And you'd be surprised at how many Arabs interact completely peacefully with Jews. | ||
| Like I think it I think you would be shocked because the only news you get about the region is bad news. | ||
| But in Jerusalem, for example, you see Jews very orthodox, Muslim women very orthodox, and they interact in general peacefully. | ||
| I think you would be startled by that. | ||
| You would be fascinated by their technology, their military, um their fence technology, you know. | ||
| They they have a barrier between Arab villages and Jewish villages for security, something that I think America could profit from learning about. | ||
| But I think for a Christian person, going to the places in the Bible cannot but be moving, confirming in your faith, and just even for people who are not religious, but just you know the stories. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| You know, Armageddon, Hebrew harmagido. | ||
| There's a place called Megiddo where how many Yeah, and how many levels of civilization ruined upon one and the next. | ||
| I would encourage any Israel skeptic to go to Israel. | ||
| And I would say try and meet with both sides. | ||
| And I think that I I think it would I mean, like if you talked about Italy as much as you talk about Israel and the Jews, wouldn't you think, well, maybe I'm just gonna go and check it out? | ||
| No, I'm not saying you don't know a lot about it. | ||
| In fact, the opposite. | ||
| I'm saying because you do know so much about it. | ||
| But what happened if you went there? | ||
| And I'm not saying to go in a managed way, but I just think that being there, I mean, especially when we're hearing about, you know, two calls in a row have referred to old texts and what happened thousands of years ago. | ||
| What would happen if you actually saw evidence of that? | ||
| And how would you feel about protecting that? | ||
| And how would you feel about the Christian community in a place like Bethlehem being eradicated? | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I I think I would recommend anyone go there. | ||
| You know, Rebel News about eight years ago. | ||
| We took our staff and we had some skeptics on our staff. | ||
| And I said, We're going to Israel, we're going to crowdfund it. | ||
| You have only one rule. | ||
| You have to, you can say anything you want, but you have to be honest. | ||
| And and I thought that was a great well. | ||
| We took Gavin McKinnis. | ||
| I don't know if you know who I'm talking about. | ||
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Of course, yeah. | |
| And and he prepared by reading an anti-Semitic book called The Culture of Critique. | ||
| And I said, I don't care. | ||
| Your only rule is that you have to listen to both. | ||
| We met with both sides. | ||
| We met with Jews, we met with Arabs, we went into Ramallah. | ||
| I said, you just have to, you cannot, if you're impressed, you have to say so. | ||
| If you're persuaded, you have to say so. | ||
| That was my one one request. | ||
| And I to this day he talks about that. | ||
| Yeah, by the way. | ||
| And I would say, take the biggest skeptic, go as long as you're going with your eyes open. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it's worth going. | ||
| Like, wouldn't you say it's worth going if you talk about given how much you talk about it? | ||
| Uh it yeah, it could be. | ||
| I mean, I don't, I don't really have uh a negative view of Israel of the United States. | ||
| I'm not saying you do people, or anyway. | ||
| I'm not saying you do. | ||
| Well, I mean, I'm you know, I I I I expect them to be uh, you know, very multicultural. | ||
| I mean, I I almost expect it to be more like America than uh than most other places. | ||
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Is that accurate or not really, because it's a different mix. | |
| But I mean, just how small it is, how close, like how narrow Israel is where the West Bank, like it's what, 11 miles or something, and it's narrowest point at the end. | ||
| Yeah, it's tiny. | ||
| Like, that's another thing for America, which is a big, mighty country with hundreds of millions of people, or or or just imagine the death toll of 1,200 people killed in a terrorist attack. | ||
| Well, I mean, what was the biggest attack on America? | ||
| There was the World Trade Center and there was Pearl Harbor, each was about 3,000 dead. | ||
| Okay, well, Israel is about 10 million people, they had 1,200 dead, so multiply that by 30. | ||
| That would be like 30,000 killed in one day. | ||
| Like the shock. | ||
| And and also, you know what? | ||
| There's one thing about Israel, and you talked about why does Israel get certain treatment in America doesn't? | ||
| On that I very much agree with you on one particular thing. | ||
| Israelis have skin in the game. | ||
| It's not just internet chit-chat. | ||
| They have to go and join the art. | ||
| There's conscription there, and they most likely will serve and be in danger. | ||
| And so you've got to make a decision about your life. | ||
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Right. | |
| And is it meaningful? | ||
| And you know, Israel, incredibly, is one of the few Western countries that has a positive birth rate. | ||
| You know, from Italy to Canada to to the uh Scandinavian countries, no one's having babies anymore. | ||
| How is it that in a country that's in such existential jeopardy, such military threat, they're having more babies? | ||
| There's something there that I wish Americans would learn. | ||
| You keep talking about white Americans. | ||
| Okay, why is the white American birth rate so low? | ||
| Now, there's some reasons, housing costs, people being demoralized in certain ways, unemployment, you can't get a job to pay the bills, you can't move out. | ||
| There's a lot of reasons. | ||
| I know them. | ||
| But maybe there's something to learn. | ||
| How is it that a beleaguered little country has just decided it's gonna live? | ||
| It's just decided that. | ||
| Decide it doesn't give a damn what the UN says, decide it doesn't give a damn what alt-right Twitter says decided it's just gonna live. | ||
| There's something that I wish Americans would learn from that. | ||
| And I think you do too, because you've said it about four times today. | ||
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| Why can't we have some of those things? | ||
| Well, I agree with you. | ||
| But part of it is like Well, there's well, it there's different it's different in the political where it's like we do advocate for these things and then we just get ignored, which is which is frustrating. | ||
| And then the personal because I was, I think I was saying to you during the break, like one of the things that I've I've noticed in my life, all of my Jewish friends all got married young. | ||
| They're all super close with their extended families. | ||
| They all had tons of kids, and it's like, I don't see my white friends following that same. | ||
| So there's a lot of stuff about the Jewish community that I'm like, why can we not do this? | ||
| Why can we not? | ||
| And you know, part of it is sort of the uh, you know, in Israel specifically, like the siege mentality. | ||
| There that when you're under pressure like that, it's good for you. | ||
| What's going wrong with America is we're too comfortable and we think everything's going to fine no matter what, and we can just, you know, I'll put off getting married till I'm 45, and then I'll have kids. | ||
| And it's like it doesn't work that way. | ||
| You gotta, you gotta have your have your head in the game. | ||
| And I think Jews do a very good job of of pressuring other Jews of like, hey, you know, you gotta, you it's the cliche. | ||
| There are, you know, dentists and lawyers and all that, because it's like, hey, you gotta contribute. | ||
| You gotta be somebody, you know, for yourself, but for all of us. | ||
| I think there's this collective uh really good mentality of like we're all in this together, you know, we have to survive, and and we can't, you know, we can't just be lackadaisical because you know, we're there's sort of a siege mentality. | ||
| Would you agree with that? | ||
| I there's a lot to talk about there, and I agree with a lot of it, and but instead of taking five minutes to give you my thoughts on the case. | ||
| We should go to the calls. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much for the call, Dan. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| This is I'm we're it's a really fun conversation. | ||
| I got something I was gonna say, but let's take more. | ||
| Okay, Mark, Mark from San Jose. | ||
| Uh, thank you for calling in. | ||
| Stu Peter's debate with Alex. | ||
| And again, I'm I'm just picking whoever was here first, so the topics are random. | ||
| Mark, uh, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| Well, thank you for taking my call. | ||
| I have the utmost respect for both you guys. | ||
| I love that interview with Borla. | ||
| Thank you, Ramark, how many I say. | ||
| And uh I would encourage people to get the shirt, you know, the rebel news, info wars, go to the city councils and supervisors and you know, Canada and here, and you know, give them a comment. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, in regards to Stu Peters, uh I also respect him. | ||
| He calls himself the walking lie detector cast, and I uh I think there's been some miscommunication. | ||
| I don't think he's lied, and I don't think Alex is lied. | ||
| Uh there's been some real miscommunication. | ||
| So if you would publicly say Stu, you can call in. | ||
| But, you know, it's limited, maybe you could make two minutes apiece, five minutes apiece, whatever you you wish, and then you know, we could you could answer his statements, or you can ignore them and vice versa. | ||
| But I would love to see Stu Peters on the Ezra Levant show in Rebel News and on InfoWars and you know, different platforms, because I, you know, there's a lot of us listening that do respect all four of you guys, even though you know there's some uh di disagreements. | ||
| Well, I'll say when it comes to Stu Peters, I like every time he says stuff online that's uh because he'll say, oh, the the InfoWars hosts told me I couldn't go on. | ||
| And I just say to him, You're lying, that's a lie. | ||
| Stop saying that. | ||
| Stop lying about this. | ||
| You're lying. | ||
| I got no beef with Stu Peters other than just that's a lie, so he shouldn't say it. | ||
| I mean, I've been I've been on Stu Peter's show, but um, but yeah, he's you know, like I was saying, he's the one that I mean, he's got a warped view, and so I disagree with him, and I go on a show and tell him that. | ||
| Uh, would you ever have Stu Peters on, Ezra? | ||
| I got to know him a tiny bit before this whole Israel thing became his bread and butter. | ||
| And it was actually about a trucker case. | ||
| Um a COVID type case. | ||
| And and I I'm not looking to pick a fight here, but my experience is the same one you just described. | ||
| Look, there's some people who I'm with whom a debate, I don't know if it's gonna be successful. | ||
| And the reason I said, hey, Alex, I got a few things on my mind. | ||
| You might have a come down and just bent, is because I know that that InfoWars viewers are thoughtful. | ||
| They know why they believe things, they're open to new information, and they're also uh alive to the fact that people are there's a battle on for your mind, is the saying goes. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And so I feel like it's a good faith audience, and even if they don't agree with me, they're gonna give me a hearing. | ||
| And if I say, look, look in your own heart, please don't do the leftist move of collective judgment of Jews. | ||
| Please don't use anti-Semitism as an escute excusology. | ||
| I feel like I've got a chance of those getting through. | ||
| Not every audience is that way. | ||
| Um I don't know. | ||
| I I I personally don't think it would profit me to interact with them. | ||
| He's commenting on us. | ||
| He's probably watching right now. | ||
| How are you doing, Stu? | ||
| Uh welcome, welcome to the show. | ||
| Uh thank you for the call, Mark. | ||
| Let's go to Dr. Mike in Houston. | ||
| Dr. Mike in my hometown. | ||
| Thanks for calling in, Dr. Mike, here on the air. | ||
| Hi, Harrison. | ||
| Uh and uh uh Mr. Levant. | ||
| I um was wondering you have a uh uh uh uh co-national, I guess for lack of a better word, uh, in um uh in uh a uh an author uh that's uh Henry Maikow. | ||
| I'm probably mispronouncing his name, but he's he's a Polish uh of Polish extraction. | ||
| He's a Jew, uh just an ethnic Jew. | ||
| He's written four books, uh the most recent of which is Illuminati four, which was an uh I read the first three books. | ||
| They were they were great. | ||
| Uh but this one was uh just startling. | ||
| Um it came out in January. | ||
| He makes the claim that uh uh Chabad is moving this this extremist uh ultra-orthodox uh uh clique of Jews uh out of uh uh the synagogue in New York City, and they have they have similar uh organizations across the nation and across the world. | ||
| But but this organization is pushing the world towards a uh a nuclear Armageddon in the hopes of uh exterminating all Gentiles or as many as possible to bring about the what they consider the the uh the real Messiah, Mashiach. | ||
| Um and uh uh you know, this is uh uh this is their their uh intent. | ||
| And they they he claims that they have a an important or a critical window between Rosh Hashanah 2027 and Rosh Hashanah 2028, in which this all must be accomplished. | ||
| And I I looked at these weird uh reversals of of Trump, uh whom he claims again is a member of Chabad. | ||
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| I'm sorry, we're running out of time here in the uh this is our last segment with Ezra, so wanted to get his comment on that. | ||
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Chabad Lubavich, what's your I know Chabad. | |
| Um I've known them my whole life. | ||
| They're basically evangelical Jews, but not not towards Gentiles, towards getting existing Jews to maybe raise their observance level. | ||
| That's the thing about Jews, they don't try and convert people to Judaism, but rabbis like Chabad try and say, come on, light those Sabbath candles. | ||
| Come on, keep a little kosher. | ||
| Like they're sort of nagging you in a very friendly way to boost your Judaism. | ||
| Uh they're they're big into charity. | ||
| They're sort of sort of like the Mormon missionaries, like they they go far away. | ||
| Like they'll there's Chabad in Dubai. | ||
| There's Chabad in Beijing. | ||
| Like in the strangest places you'll find these folks. | ||
| I have been dealing with Chabad. | ||
| I I saw Chabad Rabbi a week ago in Calgary, Alberta. | ||
| I have been dealing with these people for 35 years. | ||
| I have never once heard anything political or in the manner you just described. | ||
| Now I'm not listening I don't know what every Chabad rabbi in the world. | ||
| Listen, they they love they love coming together and you know giving an award and of course, and I mean who everybody loves to have their president uh picture taken with the president. | ||
| How you describe Chabad, and I know you're not saying it, you're repeating how Henry Maykow describes it. | ||
| I'm gonna guess he's never met a Chabad rabbi or gone a Chabad house. | ||
| They call Chabad house. | ||
| It's basically if I were to go to Hong Kong today, I could go there and and get a hot meal, and the rabbi would pressure me to say a prayer or something. | ||
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| They are not what was just described. | ||
| They're just not. | ||
| And maybe Henry Mackau knows other things, but I'm gonna guess that he's never actually met a Chabad rabbi or gone to a Chabad house, because what he's described, it's just not it's just not how it is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And and on the other uh when I was doing Alex's show, someone quoted Stu Peterson said, Goy means cattle. | ||
| No, like there's a hundred little things like that that I that you know, try catching these rumors and swatting them down. | ||
| And I'm not saying Jews are perfect and everything's a happy answer, but but this little story about Chabad and the little story about what goi means. | ||
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| You know what I say? | ||
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| I say this to my staff, and I know we're almost out of time. | ||
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| I say this to my staff about conspiracy theories. | ||
| The world is crazy enough. | ||
| You don't need to make stuff up. | ||
| You don't need to make stuff up. | ||
| That's why we don't. | ||
| We always just tell the truth, and then people think we're crazy because the world is so crazy. | ||
| As well, Ezra Levant, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| This has been great. | ||
| Rebelnews.com. | ||
| Go there, support them. | ||
| Our brothers in Canada fighting the good fight. | ||
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All right. | |
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is the war room. | ||
| I'm your host, Harrison Smith. | ||
| The third hour is on. | ||
| We'll be joined shortly by David Pine. | ||
| He is an expert on nuclear weapons. | ||
| We're going to talk to him about what the latest developments are with Russia and Ukraine, and of course. | ||
| Actually, there's a lot of uh information now about uh large number of tankers flying across the Atlantic over Europe and down into the Middle East. | ||
| We're wondering if uh this isn't uh the next the next round of the Iran conflict that we're looking at. | ||
| Of course, this comes after the uh agreement yesterday, supposed agreement between Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu. | ||
| We have a statement here, joint statement by the foreign ministers of Qatar, Jordan, UAE, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt. | ||
| They all welcome the U.S. President's sincere efforts to end the war in Gaza. | ||
| So this um agreement put out by Trump yesterday has a lot of support of the actors in the region. | ||
| It's just up to Hamas now to accept it or not, and uh we'll figure out where we go from there. | ||
| You know, it was uh honestly, I only I only really meant to spend an hour with Ezra, but I was really enjoying our conversation. | ||
| I hope you enjoyed it as well. | ||
| But I've I feel bad for the crew because since I made them put together like uh how many videos do I have today? | ||
| Fifty-seven videos, and I haven't even played them because we're having such a good conversation. | ||
| So I'll try to make up for that uh here in the third hour as we get to uh David Pine and what the latest is with you know World War Three and all of that. | ||
| But if I got time for for one video, I think we should go to clip number 43 here. | ||
| This was Donald Trump at the uh meeting with all the generals today in Quantico, and a lot of people wondering what this was like really about Heg Seth is talking about fitness, but it sounds like this part of Trump's speech was really the the meat and potatoes of why this emergency meeting was gathered. | ||
| Let's go down to clip 43. | ||
| Together with many of you in the room, we've brought back the fundamental principle of That defending the homeland is the military's first and most important priority. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Only in recent decades that politicians somehow come to believe that our job is to police the far reaches of Kenya and Somalia while America is under invasion from within. | ||
| We're under invasion from within. | ||
| No different than a foreign enemy, but more difficult in many ways because they don't wear uniforms. | ||
| At least when they're wearing a uniform, you can take them out. | ||
| These people don't have uniforms. | ||
| Sounds like they are uh being prepared for deployment on U.S. streets to go after the migrants, and of course, that is already being met with violent, uh riotous conditions in Broadview, Illinois, and LA and Portland, Oregon. | ||
| That battle continues. | ||
| In fact, last night it genuinely looked like a war zone. | ||
| Clip number nine here. | ||
| This was last night in Portland. | ||
| You've got the, and we can play this as beer roll, keep the audio down because uh we don't have to hear a bunch of uh Antifa screeching like banshees if we don't have to. | ||
| Uh but yeah, it looks like a literal war zone, just fog everywhere, you know, guys in full military uniform being attacked by Antifa. | ||
| And at the same time, you have, you know, the governor of uh of Oregon going, you know, here's a picture of a park. | ||
| How could this be a war zone? | ||
| Well, you're not in the war zone part of the city. | ||
| The war zone part of the city is around the federal building where Antifa has been staging an insurrection for the better part of the last decade, actually, if you really think about it. | ||
| Uh, which I like those vi visuals a lot better than clip twenty-six. | ||
| Let's go to clip twenty-six. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| Can you imagine being one of these people? | ||
| Let's roll, let's roll twenty-six here. | ||
| So this is uh this is uh ice in full military uniform with the riot shields having to back off some weirdo trans twinks uh menacing them. | ||
| And it's just, you know, you just think about how wrong this whole world is, how unnatural this whole world is. | ||
| What is going on here? | ||
| Why are they backing up? | ||
| Why are they why are our guys in full military dress seemingly being, you know cowed down and forced back by a bunch of literal disabled psychopaths. | ||
| It's it's unnatural is what it is. | ||
| It ain't right. | ||
| And it needs to be fixed. | ||
| It needs to be the other way around. | ||
| Uh we'll be back on the other side with David Pine, an expert on nuclear warfare. | ||
| What he says is coming next. | ||
| Don't go anywhere, folks. | ||
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| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is the War Room. | ||
| I'm your host Harrison Smith. | ||
| Very happy to welcome one of our regular guests, David Pine. | ||
| He is the director at the National EMP task force. | ||
| He currently serves as the president of that task force on uh I'm sorry, as the president of the task force on national and homeland security. | ||
| Mr. Pine previously worked as National Security Policy Director for United States Senator Mike Lee. | ||
| He also served as a United States Army officer and worked as an international programs manager on the Department of the Army Headquarters staff responsible for the countries of the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and the Americas and Africa from 2000-2003. | ||
| He's an expert on geopolitics and has really unparalleled insight into the complexities that contribute to the balance of power in international relations. | ||
| You can find his website at EMP Taskforce.com. | ||
| That's dpyne.com. | ||
| Welcome back to the show, sir. | ||
| Hey Harrison, great to be with you. | ||
| Well, I'm very glad to have you here because hopefully you can lend some clarity to what the heck is going on in in eastern Europe. | ||
| And I have this big stack of your articles. | ||
| The top one, I, you know, is is uh one of the latest from about midway through September. | ||
| Trump continues to escalate his war with Russia, threatening to provoke World War III. | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| What is going on here, Mr. Pine? | ||
| Because I was guaranteed, I was assured by Trump that you know he would end the Ukraine war in a matter of a week. | ||
| Here we are, nine months later, and it seems to only be getting more intense. | ||
| What do you think is the strategy at play here? | ||
| Well, that's just the thing. | ||
| There is no strategy. | ||
| Um the strategy, the initial plan for uh President Trump was to uh get uh uh Russia to agree to the Kellogg Plan. | ||
| Uh the Kellogg plan was uh 22-point plan ultimately that was uh presented to the Russians uh somewhere between April 22nd and May 8th of uh this year. | ||
| Um, but uh, you know, ultimately it was he wanted to end the war, uh, but he wanted to do it on U.S. terms. | ||
| And uh once uh Putin um rejected the Kellogg plan on May 8th, he uh uh you know he decided to, you know, he he was done with negotiations for for uh a few months. | ||
| And then of course we had uh the Putin Trump summit, and that actually went quite well, uh, according to what I've read. | ||
| Uh they they were very close to signing a tentative peace framework agreement. | ||
| Uh Trump was pushing uh Zelensky to to give up the remainder of the Donbass region, which only constitutes one percent of uh Ukraine's territory in terms of uh the the part of the Donboss that they control. | ||
| And uh unfortunately Zelensky and the EU uh EU leaders uh uh rejected that. | ||
| And uh as a result, Trump went back to neocon war mode and and he's been threatening Russia nonstop because he's really clueless. | ||
| He's because he's not willing to do what's necessary to end the war, which is uh all it requires him to do is tell Zelensky that uh, you know, uh the days of uh U.S. security assistance are over and that he'll lose his Starlink access unless he signs on the dotted line of a U a Trump Putin negotiated peace agreement. | ||
| Um, you know, then uh, you know, there's no no end to the war, essentially. | ||
| The war will continue. | ||
| And it'd be one thing if if Trump were uh had decided just to send defensive weapons to to Ukraine and and had no U.S. troops or military advisors or weapons technicians or intelligence officials in Ukraine. | ||
| Uh, you know, that that would be one thing. | ||
| But instead, we're providing uh providing Ukraine with um 3,550 ERAM uh air launch cruise missiles, uh which will be fired uh by um, you know, former F US uh Air Force F-16 pilots. | ||
| Uh and that's very provocative. | ||
| Uh those weapons can hit Moscow Oblast. | ||
| Uh Now Trump's uh he's saying he's seriously considering sending tomahawk uh you know land attack missiles uh to Ukraine. | ||
| Uh that's likely an empty threat. | ||
| But the very fact that we're doing that, uh, you know, those those weapons can range all of uh European Russia all the way to the Urals Mountains, where uh you know Putin's uh nuclear command centers, uh underground command centers are located. | ||
| So uh the point is uh, you know, he keeps referring to the war in Ukraine as Biden's war, uh, in that he calls it senseless, uh ridiculous, uh, you know, could start World War III at any time, and yet he's doing nothing uh to pressure Zelensky to make even even the slightest concession uh on the road to peace with Russia. | ||
| Whereas Russia has provided sweeping concessions. | ||
| They've given up two-thirds of their territorial demands. | ||
| Used to be they they wanted all of Zaporozhya and Kirasan Oblast, they've given that up. | ||
| Uh they now just want uh uh the remainder of uh Donetsk essentially, which is uh they control 88% of the Donbass region. | ||
| And they've also given up their demand for denazification of Ukraine. | ||
| Uh they're they're saying Zelensky can stay in power if he wins a democratic election, which all you know, all the polls show he would lose if it if that election was free and fair. | ||
| And also uh they they've um given up their demands that uh Ukraine uh disarm to uh a low level uh with uh you know a very small military. | ||
| They're basically saying Ukraine could keep a large military with every weapon systems but long-range uh you know, drones, missiles, and aircraft. | ||
| Uh so those those demands are much more reasonable. | ||
| And this is this is the best deal that Ukraine's gonna get. | ||
| And you know, Trump could take credit for those, those uh concessions and say, hey, you know, Putin had unreasonable demands. | ||
| I got him down to this. | ||
| This is the best you're gonna you're gonna get. | ||
| And the war could be over in a week. | ||
| And all he had to, again, all he has to do is is tell Zelensky no more Starlink access and no more uh you know intelligence or uh or uh weapons or ammo. | ||
| We're pulling out all of our, you know, all of our military advisors, weapons tech technicians, and intelligence officials, and you you'll be on your own unless you sign on the die to line. | ||
| And Zelensky would be forced to do so. | ||
| Yeah, and you know, part of me at first was like, well, maybe this is their uh Trump proofing of the Ukraine war coming to fruition, because I'm sure you remember, I think we talked about it, that you know, NATO had all of these plans where they were going, okay, if Trump gets into office, he's gonna cut off Ukraine. | ||
| So we're gonna sign five-year contracts with Ukraine so we can outlast the next Trump presidency should it come about. | ||
| Uh and so I was wondering if maybe that was part of it, that Trump, you know, noticed that, okay, I don't have any ability to stop weapons transfers because they signed these you know binding contracts for five years. | ||
| So I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna embrace it and pretend it's my thing. | ||
| But that doesn't explain the expansion that he seems to be championing. | ||
| Uh as you note in your on your Substack article, President Trump claimed Ukraine can retake all of its territory with Western support. | ||
| So obviously the tr the Trump proofing is not adequate to explain why he's now saying that they're going to take more stuff back. | ||
| Now we're going to go into Russia. | ||
| I mean, it's just it seems utterly insane to me because correct me if I'm wrong, NATO has no ability to fight this war in any real way. | ||
| In fact, I don't want to waste our time with it, but I do have a video with uh former NATO chair Bauer warning that Europe basically gets all of its energy and all of its production from China. | ||
| And if we were to go, if Europe and NATO were to go to war with Russia and then China's involved, like they have no production, they have no industry. | ||
| How are they even going to fight this war? | ||
| This is what's so conf so confusing to me. | ||
| What are the what do they even think is going to happen moving forward? | ||
| Uh they can't fight a war. | ||
| Why are they starting one? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| Well, unfortunately, Trump is surrounded himself with uh neocon war minor advisors like uh Secretary of State and Interim National Security Advisor Marco Rubio, uh, you know, John Ratcliffe as uh CIA director, uh Keith Kellogg is uh uh you know Ukraine special envoy and other bad actors. | ||
| And he's he's taking that misinformation and operationalizing it. | ||
| You know, he's if you get if you're a president of the United States and you get fed uh misinformation every day, you're you're gonna go ahead and move forward with that unless you have critical thinking capabilities and are able to counter that. | ||
| Uh Trump is his gut feeling is almost always right. | ||
| You know, he has these amazing, brilliant ideas uh that he gets talked out of. | ||
| You know, he wanted to get out of uh Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria, you know, within the first few years of his uh first term. | ||
| It never happened, unfortunately, because uh he he had a lot of uh neocon cabinet members that talked him out of it. | ||
| He wanted a comprehensive peace peace agreement with Russia, you know, that's either this sweeping, you know, is sweeping as he's he's uh tried to make it this time, if not more so, and then of course they created the Trump Russia hoax for the exact purpose to uh to force him to be enemies with Russia and actually, | ||
| you know, try to uh increase uh tensions with Russia and what we got is uh you know uh a year after he left office or a couple years after he left office was the Ukraine war just uh a year and a month after month later so um uh i it's very it's very sad because you know I I was just I am a strong Trump supporter but I think he's uh making some uh huge mistakes to get us into World War III and there's no reason for it. | ||
| I mean again by his own definition the war is senseless it's ridiculous uh the very fact it could get us into world war three is a travesty and yet he's doing nothing to to stop when all we all he really needs to do is is sign a separate peace with Russia and and say uh you know here's the peace I negotiate it take it or leave it if you you know if you don't sign it we're we're pulling all our forces out for good and you're on your own uh and and it's over you know whether it's whether the war actually ends or not uh the war between the U.S. and | ||
| Russia will be over would be over uh the Russian nuclear threat to the US would would evaporate and then if you wanted to we could focus on China and and all these uh domestic uh NFO terrorists and the 100,000 PLA troops that are already in in our own borders right and and on the topic of China it's another video that that you know maybe I'll go to in the in the next segment we have limited time with you but it was going viral today and it was a uh a Chinese spokesperson I believe or is an Indo he was in Indonesia and he was saying you know he's bragging about the new weapons that | ||
| they have and he was saying we have this one missile that's unstoppable can reach anywhere in the world in 20 minutes it has six warheads plus a hydrogen bomb and they said no uncertain terms we're not going to start the fight but we're gonna finish it we might not throw the first punch but we're gonna make sure you can't throw a second one. | ||
| I mean they are taking this very seriously we're still I mean I feel like you've been you've been coming on American journal and now war room for years and it's like we're still focusing on these hot spots of Russia, Ukraine, Iran, Israel, uh China, Taiwan we're seeming to inching closer and closer to conflict in all of these uh your article um from earlier in September talks about all of this China so showcases new missiles during military parade uh commemorating victory in World War II. | ||
| How do all three of these conflicts uh tie together and how are they influencing one another? | ||
| Because again, I look at what Trump's doing with Russia and it it there's there's not enough there for me to figure out what's going on. | ||
| So I kind of look to these other things to go, well, is there is this about trying to do something with China is this about trying to keep Iran from connecting with Russia I'm just it doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
| So I'm looking at these other conflicts see if they have an impact. | ||
| What do you think uh how do you think China and Iran play into what's going on with Ukraine and Russia. | ||
| Well if you listen to the neocon conservative pop propaganda line uh they're saying that you know we need to show strength uh to Putin and and not give in to you know his demands on Ukraine to essentially uh settle the conflict along the current lines uh because that would send some message of weakness to China. | ||
| In fact it's the exact opposite China China is the main benefactor from the continuation of the war in Ukraine. | ||
| The longer we fight Russia and Ukraine the the the bigger the window for them to uh invade Taiwan uh with the U.S. uh you know having tens of thousands of troops uh bogged down in in eastern Europe against uh a Russia that could move against NATO uh at any time because we keep provoking them to do so. | ||
| So uh you know Russia, China and Iran uh the way they're linked is they're they're military allies. | ||
| So they're all part of the Shane Height Cooperation Organization that I've been warning against since 2001. | ||
| And actually before that, before it existed, uh the Sino Russian alliance I've been talking about since uh the mid-1990s uh when it first uh you know started to uh uh form in uh 1996 in response to uh Clinton's decision to expand NATO to to uh Russia's borders in Ukraine so uh you know they're all they're all allies um together they form an alliance along with uh India and and Pakistan uh that has about 43% of the world's population they have | ||
| um you know somewhere around 80% of the world's uh nuclear weapons uh Russia of course uh according to Ukraine's uh Ministry of Defense uh has 16,000 nuclear weapons US has uh uh 3800 uh less than that if you count uh uh our dismantled warheads that would take at least two years to put back together. | ||
| So uh we're completely overmatched in terms of um military-industrial might. | ||
| I mean, China alone, uh, I've calculated that they had their military, their industrial base is about 3.8 times larger than ours in terms of their defense industrial base, it's about five to six times greater. | ||
| And you saw that on the in the this uh this parade uh earlier this month on September 3rd, uh, where uh you know China gathered its uh closest allies, about 20 different heads of state, including Vladimir Putin and a couple uh one or two NATO members actually uh met with him as well during the same period and uh showcased 76 uh different weapons systems, | ||
| of which 46 are were new, as in, you know, they they weren't operational until last year at the earliest, or were you know are just on the verge of being operational. | ||
| And those weapons include multiple strategic nuclear missiles, uh including the DF-61 that has like 14 warheads, uh the DF-5C that has, I think 12 warheads. | ||
| Uh just by way of comparison, the US uh, you know, Minuteman III, our ICPM that was built first deployed when I was uh one year old, um, is uh, you know, that's our only ICBM, and it only carries one warhead. | ||
| So uh, you know, uh Russia's in the process uh process of deploying SARMAT ICBMs that have up to 50 warheads. | ||
| China has admitted uh, you know, nuclear missiles that have uh 12 to 14 warheads. | ||
| Uh so we're way behind the power curve. | ||
| Uh and our you know, nuclear deterrent is becoming woefully deficient to face both enemies at the same time. | ||
| Now, if if Russia or if uh Trump were to pursue his brilliant plan to uh neutralize the Cyber Russian alliance with this uh geostrategic partnership with with Russia, uh ending the war in Ukraine, withdrawing uh U.S. military forces from Eastern Europe, um, | ||
| you know, basically recognizing the Russian sphere of influence over Ukraine and the rest of the former Soviet Union, then that would essentially take Russia off the grand strategic chessboard uh of uh competition with China, and we could size our nuclear arsenal based on China's. | ||
| Even then we probably couldn't catch up. | ||
| It would take probably take us a decade or two to catch up with China. | ||
| But with Russia in the mix, it's just it's a hands-down loss. | ||
| You know, if there's a nuclear war, we will lose lose guaranteed. | ||
| Or even if it's convenient, if it's limited to conventional uh conventional fight with uh, you know, cyber weapons, they could destroy us with cyber weapons alone. | ||
| And it's just it just seems so obvious. | ||
| And again, you know, you you talk about this. | ||
| You actually uh have uh segment of your 1997 uh manuscript here where you predict this exact thing, the the alliance between the Russian Federation and the Communist Chinese government. | ||
| It just seems, I mean, you knew it back then. | ||
| It seems even more obvious now that if there is this clash of cultures, this ultimate showdown between China and America, why would you not want Russia on your side? | ||
| Like what are they doing driving Russia into the hands of China? | ||
| It is so obviously a tactical or strategic mistake at this point. | ||
| It almost seems like it has to be on purpose. | ||
| What is the reasoning uh behind this? | ||
| Like even if it's fallacious, like what are they even saying to justify uh this overall geopolitical strategy? | ||
| Well, essentially it's it's neo-imperialism. | ||
| It's uh, you know, both uh the uh liberal um internationalists or the globalists and and the deep state neocons, uh, can they have kind of have this unholy alliance? | ||
| Uh essentially they share the same neo-imperialist mindset, and that is that we should, you know, the US sphere of influence stretches across the entire world. | ||
| Uh only that the the Shane Shannai Cooperation Organization is exempt. | ||
| So that means we have to push all of our troops to uh Russia's border uh in eastern Europe. | ||
| We need to mass massive uh military forces in the western Pacific, you know, kind of set up an Asian NATO. | ||
| Really, we've we've we we've done uh very poorly uh in that area because we don't even have any nuclear weapons uh aside from our uh two Ohio nuclear missile subs uh that are based in the Pacific. | ||
| So there's we have no non-strategic warheads that are essentially based in to deter China that has uh perhaps 4,000 nuclear warheads at this point with their massive um nuclear buildup. | ||
| But it just doesn't make sense. | ||
| You know, if if I've been saying uh for years now, if we had just invited Russia to join NATO, with which Putin essentially offered, you know, he admitted in his interview with Tucker Carlson and uh February 4th of it was last year that uh you know he was open to joining NATO and he he just he wanted to know if if uh that's something we would consider. | ||
| And I think uh initially Clinton said, yeah, we we might be willing to consider that and they talked to his uh deep state advisors and they said, no, we can't we can't do that. | ||
| And then Bush, of course, said the same thing in 2002. | ||
| And uh, you know, we pushed uh Russia into China's arms, just as I predicted we would in 1997. | ||
| Uh uh, you know, it didn't take uh uh a real visionary uh I don't think to be able to see that. | ||
| And we we had all these uh folks uh on the foreign policy side uh for both parties that warned that uh uh you know if we uh expanded NATO to include Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic, uh, you know, that bordered on Russia, that uh we would uh make Russia hostile again and and kind of force them to become more militant uh in defense of their own uh national security interests. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And um, you know, I I got I got a few more questions to ask you. | ||
| Can you stay for a little bit into the next segment if we we have to go to a commercial break in about three minutes and um Seb choosing which question I'd like to ask you both because earlier today uh we got two pieces of news that I I'd love your input on. | ||
| One was that Trump during his speech, I was under the impression he was saying he sent nuclear subs to to Russia to the Russian coast. | ||
| Uh the article I was just looking at says U.S. put submarine hunters on Russia's doorstep. | ||
| So uh this is a new, you know, um development that apparently, you know, Trump is uh sending either submarines or submarine hunters to sort of menace uh Russia's ports. | ||
| Do you know anything about this? | ||
| And and what what would this uh signal to you? | ||
| And if you were Russia, how would you interpret this? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So I think it was back in July that he stated uh he supposed on a truce social social that he'd ordered uh at least a couple uh, you know, um uh nuclear missile submarines, though those are Ohio class uh ballistic missile submarines uh off uh you know, closer to Russia. | ||
| I mean, they're they're always on stage. | ||
| There's always two on station in the Pacific, two in the Atlantic. | ||
| Uh so whether, you know, if they're in range, uh, if they can range Russia from you know the mid mid-Atlantic or mid, you know, mid-Pacific, then moving them close to the Russian coast probably does didn't do much. | ||
| I think it was he was just making an idle threat. | ||
| Uh in terms of the submarine hunters, uh, you know, Russia has uh six Yazen class uh nuclear missile submarines. | ||
| These are cruise missile submarines rather than ballistic missile submarines. | ||
| And these are our um submarines that are are are being uploaded with uh zircon hypersonic missiles uh back in 2021, um, you know, as the Ukraine tensions started to ratchet up, uh President Putin made it made a very credible threat against Biden, saying that uh, you know, he could uh Russia could fire uh zircon missiles from 200 miles off their coast. | ||
| We wouldn't even detect him until it was too late. | ||
| And uh, you know, within five minutes, uh, you know, uh DC would be uh go up in a mushroom cloud and and Biden wouldn't have time to escape on Air Force One. | ||
| That's a that's a very real capability. | ||
| Um, you know, I I talked to um a former assistant secretary of defense uh Frank Gaffney, who said that uh a Russian submarine turned up in 2021 in the Chesapeake Bay, uh, and we didn't detect it until it was already there. | ||
| Uh, you know, so our our submarine detection capabilities against Russia are a pretty pretty uh substandard of what it what they need to be, especially in the capital region. | ||
| Uh we should have all of our anti-submarine uh warfare assets deployed around the capital region just to ensure that there's uh you know Russia's not able to conduct a decapitation for a strike that could potentially take out all three of our nuclear footballs, so we wouldn't uh be able to re-establish uh launch control of our nuclear arsenal for uh for days, | ||
| if not weeks, if not ever, uh this would that would allow Russia, China, and uh, you know, Iran and North Korea to nuke every every site they want in the US with impunity, and there was not there'd be nothing we could do to to back it. | ||
| Well, as an isn't that troubling and then it really feels like we're playing with fire here. | ||
| And uh it's It's worth you know letting people know, like this is not so far away as it may seem. | ||
| I mean, it seems like Americans are fine with you know Ukrainians dying and Russians dying so far away. | ||
| Maybe they need to be reminded, hey, there could be Russian subs right off your coast. | ||
| And uh, you know, maybe we need more of the mindset of, you know, when that was happening with the Germans in uh World War II. | ||
| I remember my till a couple of years ago and my uh grandfather passed away. | ||
| Uh but up till then you would talk about you know, going to Miami as a little kid and seeing the the Russian submarines, or at least knowing that they're out there and what that felt like. | ||
| And it's like maybe we need a little bit of that. | ||
| Maybe we need to understand this is not just a distant thing that we can just throw money at and see who dies. | ||
| It could come here very easily, especially if we don't handle this well, and it and it seems like America is walking a tightrope right now. | ||
| More with David Pine on the other side, EMP Taskforce.us. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is the war room final segment here with Dr. or uh I'm sorry, do with David Pine. | ||
| He's the director of the National EMP task force, EMP Taskforce.us. | ||
| You can find his substack, and I encourage you to go read these articles, dpine.substack.com. | ||
| That's d pyne.subsack dot com. | ||
| I thought I had one more article to ask you about, but I I realize I in fact have two. | ||
| Uh the first is this one from Daily Mail. | ||
| Mystery fleet of U.S. Air Force tankers crossing Atlantic stirs echoes of Iran strike ahead of secret military meetings. | ||
| So this was yesterday. | ||
| Today it's been reported these these same tankers uh refueled and are now traveling to Qatar. | ||
| Flight trackers have spotted a fleet of U.S. air tankers crossing the Atlantic. | ||
| Now they're uh en route to Qatar. | ||
| This, of course, happened right before we attacked. | ||
| We uh bombed Iran with the big assault there. | ||
| Does this mean it's happening again? | ||
| I mean, uh, have you seen this, David? | ||
| And uh and what is your take on what's happening with these air tankers? | ||
| Uh no, I haven't hadn't seen that previously, but that is uh very alarming because uh as you mentioned that this air uh refueler bridge refueling bridge is exactly what happened before the uh uh the unprovoked US uh bomber strike on on Iran. | ||
| Uh so and I've been predicting, you know, and Trump's been warning himself, uh, you know, just I think four days after he declared uh you know one of his his greatest legacies would be uh you know the ceasefire between ending the war with uh the US, Israel, and Iran. | ||
| And then four days later he said, yeah, uh asked if he he would bomb uh Iran again. | ||
| He said he absolutely would. | ||
| So he's he's had this in his back pocket and in the back of his mind to do. | ||
| Uh but this seems like a very um uh almost a bipolar thing for it for him to do uh, you know, at the very time he's talking about establishing an internal peace in the Middle East, you know, with his his uh 20-point uh peace plan, which is you know, it's it has it's problematic in some ways, but it's it's uh really quite good uh in many ways. | ||
| Uh certainly much more realistic, uh still a little bit unreal, you know, in unrealistic, but much more uh, you know, reasonable in terms of uh you know, allowing the the Palestinians to stay in Gaza and uh not not force them to uh you know be ethnically clearance as his previous plan had. | ||
| Yeah, I I liked what I saw of the plan so far. | ||
| And again, we've got this joint statement by the foreign ministers of Qatar, Jordan, UAE, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt all putting out statements in support of this plan. | ||
| I guess it's just up to Hamas whether they accept it or not. | ||
| But uh I mean, what do you think the likelihood is that they're gonna look favorably on this? | ||
| I mean, it strips them of control. | ||
| It it basically totally disarms them. | ||
| They want to have an international body, the Board of Peace, that they say will be chaired by Trump, but I think Tony Blair is is also eyeing that position. | ||
| He'll I guess he'll be, I guess it's a new British mandate in Gaza. | ||
| I mean, it it it seems seems like a strange conclusion to this conflict. | ||
| What do you think the likelihood is that this plan actually gets put into motion? | ||
| Well, I think there is a chance that Hamas will uh will uh accept it with exceptions. | ||
| I mean, y you have to go back. | ||
| Uh, you know, every basically every ceasefire plan that we've offered, they've um either they've accepted with limited conditions, and you know, we've said that basically said it's an ultimatum, you take it either take it or leave it, and then uh Israel bombs them and invades them again. | ||
| So um that's kind of the most likely possibility. | ||
| Uh, you know, Trump only gave them, I think, uh a 72-hour to 96-hour window to accept uh accept the deal that's on the table. | ||
| Uh, you know, it's requiring the return of the hostages within 72 hours of Israeli acceptance of the deal. | ||
| Well, that was yesterday. | ||
| So they have 48 hours to, you know, in accordance with the plan itself to return the hostages, uh, or else uh Israel, I guess, uh, you know, keeps uh terribing them and and uh you know blockading them uh you know with the starvation blockade and uh it continues uh the Netanyahu plan to to permanently occupy and control Gaza. | ||
| But you know, in many ways, uh just looking at the plan, it looks not not like a uh uh a British mandate, it looks like a US mandate because it provides for doesn't provide for the president of the United States to be the chairman of of the so-called peace board that will control and govern Gaza. | ||
| It provides for Trump personally to uh to control Gaza, which means that after he's president, he may still be the uh the top honcho uh in this interim thousand government, which is very unique. | ||
| We haven't seen anything like that in in U.S. history that I've that I've seen before. | ||
| Yeah, that's that's very interesting. | ||
| I guess I guess maybe during like the US Spanish war, we had to, you know, figure out well how to how to deal with even having colonies. | ||
| So there was that. | ||
| But yeah, it's it's a very sort of unique approach that uh I wonder how it's gonna go. | ||
| And I wonder how this plays into uh the coming conflict with Iran, the ongoing, you know, friction with Iran. | ||
| Uh what do you do you think it's more likely that war with Iran kicks off if Hamas rejects the proposal or accepts it? | ||
| Yeah, you know, this this whole the Gaza conflict is really the instigator for the entire uh proxy war between uh you know the US and Israel on one side and Iran on the other. | ||
| So if if if Hamas accepts the deal, I mean that's that really eliminates any impetus on the Iranian side to want to attack Israel in the near future. | ||
| You know, really all of these these attacks that uh you know, uh other than October 7th, of course, which I which was certainly Iranian, uh, you know, backed and uh approved of in advance, uh, have been uh Israeli attacks uh you know on on Iran and its proxies. | ||
| So uh essentially, you know, Iran has won been wanting peace uh nonstop since uh October 7th. | ||
| You know, they uh they they wanted to support the attack, the terrorist attack. | ||
| It was it was brutal, but it you know, killed all uh less than 1,200 Israelis um civilians. | ||
| And then uh Israel, of course, has killed off about 55,000 uh Gazan or Palestini civilians uh in response, which is about 46 times more than Hamas killed. | ||
| You know, and uh obviously Israel was fully justified to go after Hamas, uh, but uh not in the you know uh they've only killed about 9,000 Hamas fighters, you know, in the last two years. | ||
| And Hamas is actually 25% larger in terms of the number of fighters they have than at the beginning of the war. | ||
| So uh, you know, while Israel has completely pulverized Gaza and in turn, you know, as Trump stated, you know, just turned it into the land, you know, landscape of the moon, basically Hiroshima, um, you know, Gaza-wide, uh, in terms of actual military successes against Hamas, uh, they haven't done that great. | ||
| That's very interesting. | ||
| Because I'd heard that uh the president uh French President Macron said that Hamas has not been, you know, militarily defeated, basically saying they're still at the same strength they were, but you're actually saying they're even stronger. | ||
| 25% uh more fighting men in Hamas than at the beginning of the war. | ||
| That's according to Israeli figures. | ||
| So uh Hamas had 32,000, uh, and maybe they're including Islamic jihad. | ||
| So uh is with Islamic jihad, uh Hamas and Islamic Jihad together had 40,000. | ||
| So if they include Islamic jihad, then they're at the same level. | ||
| So I mean, if you measure a war by how many troops the enemy fields on the you know, the field of battle, uh best case, it's been a wash, and that's two years later. | ||
| You know, I mean, Israel has massive regional uh superpower supremacy over, you know, over uh Hamas. | ||
| Hamas has no combat aircraft, they have no helicopters, they have no tanks, they have no armored vehicles. | ||
| I mean, they're just really kind of almost a guerrilla force with rockets, you know, uh some uh short-range rockets they can fire for Israel and and not a whole lot else. | ||
| So uh, you know, you would expect uh Israel to have completely wiped them out by now, but uh based on the record, it's it's very unlikely that they could they'll ever be able to wipe them out at this rate. | ||
| And if it if they can't, it would take two to three years at least to do it. | ||
| Well, so then that begs the question, you know, if they don't accept this ultimatum from Trump and you know, they say You accept this or Israel's going really full full force in Gaza. | ||
| Well, aren't they doing that already? | ||
| I mean, what would that even look like? | ||
| Do what what more power do they have to pour into this fight? | ||
| Nuclear weapons, I guess. | ||
| That's that's about it. | ||
| That's about all they have, and they're not going to use a nuke that close to their territory, even though uh Lindsay Graham and and you know far right Israeli politicians have been calling for for that. | ||
| I mean, they could. | ||
| If they use like a mini nuke, they could do it. | ||
| But, you know, there would still be a risk of fallout on Israeli territory that could sicken Israeli civilians. | ||
| So that seems very unlikely. | ||
| uh It's basically not going to happen. | ||
| But uh, yeah, I mean, uh this this deal that that Trump has outlined, this is the best, you know, in terms of if if you really care about Israeli security, this is the the best, if not the only way to accomplish it. | ||
| It has to be a deal that gives Hamas full amnesty. | ||
| It has to give um has to give uh self-government back to the Palestinians, it has to involve the full with uh Israeli military withdrawal of all their troops from from Gaza. | ||
| And it's very unclear. | ||
| I would say that it's clear that uh Netanyahu, while saying he accepts accepts the peace plan, he clearly stated he's he's like Israel will continue to provide security uh essentially indefinitely for for uh for Gaza, which means that basically he's not gonna pull uh he's not gonna honor the plan and pull uh Israeli troops out. | ||
| And the problem is Hamas is not gonna lay down their arms to Israeli uh invaders and foreign occupiers. | ||
| They'll they'll lay down their arms and surrender to you know a multinational Arab force, a peacekeepers, uh, but not to Israeli forces. | ||
| And so if if Israel doesn't withdraw, Hamas won't disarm, and the war will continue indefinitely. | ||
| Yeah, and uh we actually have that video. | ||
| We'll go to clip number 23 here. | ||
| So this was a video that uh Benjamin Netanyahu put out, and he put it out in uh Hebrew, but people translated it, and yeah, he seems to be saying, uh, don't worry about the thing we just signed with Trump, we're never gonna leave Gaza. | ||
| And you know, it this is this is the problem with having Israel as an ally is like you know, Iran recently just rejected talks with America because, well, last time that they tried, you know, America bombed them and Israel bombed them, and then Israel's bombing negotiators in Qatar. | ||
| And it's like, how are we gonna get any agreements with these people with with any of these groups when we can't be trusted to uphold our end of the bargain? | ||
| I mean, we just routinely uh destroy our own reputation with the help of Israel. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, how are you gonna ever have peace uh when you've proven yourself so untrustworthy? | ||
| Why would they ever give up their weapons? | ||
| Even you know, with the with the agreement to have an Arab peacekeeping force. | ||
| How how do you even trust that? | ||
| Uh but I want to go to this video of Biden Netanyahu. | ||
| So this was after he visited with Trump. | ||
| He put out this message, and I'll I'll read along the subtitles here. | ||
| Uh, Prime Minister, how do you sum up the visit? | ||
| He says it was an excellent visit, the beginning at the UN as well as the ending in Washington. | ||
| This is my fourth visit to Washington since President Trump took office about every two months. | ||
| This is a historic visit. | ||
| Instead of Hamas isolating us, we turned the tables and isolated Hamas. | ||
| Now the entire world. | ||
| Including the Arab and Muslim world, is pressuring Hamas to accept the terms we set together with President Trump to release all hostages, both living and deceased, while the IDF remains in most of the strip. | ||
| Would you uh who would have believed this? | ||
| After all, people say you must accept Hamas's term, get everyone out. | ||
| The IDF with uh should withdraw, Hamas can recover and uh it can rehabilitate the strip. | ||
| No way, that's not happening. | ||
| On the contrary, and President Trump added that if Hamas uh refuses, he will give Israel full backing to complete the military operation and eliminate them. | ||
| That's why I think from every perspective, it was an excellent visit. | ||
| So should I shut up? | ||
| Again, we can uh here, we'll keep going here. | ||
| They say, Do you agree to a Palestinian state? | ||
| He says, Absolutely not. | ||
| It's also written in the agreement. | ||
| Uh, but there's one thing that did say that we would strongly oppose a Palestinian state. | ||
| President Trump also said it. | ||
| He also uh understands it. | ||
| He also said the UN there would be a huge reward for terrorism and danger to the state of Israel. | ||
| Of course, we won't agree to it. | ||
| So there, you know, he seems to say that uh, you know, the IDF is not getting out of Gaza, not getting out of uh Hamas controlled territory, which of course is completely contradictory to the you know thing that was signed. | ||
| So uh are we missing something here? | ||
| Do we mistranslate that, do you think? | ||
| Or, you know, do you think Netanyahu is sort of saying, yeah, whatever, we're gonna stay there anyway? | ||
| That's what it sounds like to me. | ||
| Well, unfortunately, a lot of people have been speculating that uh Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been pulling uh Trump's strains on Middle East war policy. | ||
| And I think that's accurate, unfortunately. | ||
| I think Trump's you know outstanding president on so many levels and so many different areas, uh, but he's allowing himself to be uh misled, both in terms of uh the war in Gaza, you know, Iran and uh, you know, Russia Ukraine policy. | ||
| And uh yeah, you're absolutely right. | ||
| I mean, I predicted this that Netanyahu would never agree to pull his troops out of out of Gaza. | ||
| He actually did pull them out in accordance with the uh January 19th, uh, you know, uh Trump uh uh Biden negotiated, but uh essentially uh Steve Whitkopf pressured uh uh ceasefire agreement. | ||
| And that was a that was a great deal as well. | ||
| And uh, you know, of course, uh Israel um broke that agreement and and engaged in a full-scale uh invasion occupation of of Gaza in I think early March of this year. | ||
| And uh, you know, Netanyahu is he's planned this all along. | ||
| Uh in fact that you know, there's been talk that there may, in fact, it was uh Charlie Kirk that talked about how um uh maybe not Netanyahu, but someone at a very senior level of these Israeli military or or political leadership ordered a uh an IDF stand down just prior to the Hamas terrorist attacks. | ||
| And as Charlie Kirk stated, I I've been Israel as well as part of a U.S. uh uh Department of Defense delegation back in 2001. | ||
| Um, you know, it's a garrison state. | ||
| It's uh, I mean, there's troops everywhere. | ||
| You see them everywhere, men and women, women get drafted. | ||
| It's uh they've got 11 times more troops, including reservists than Hamas does. | ||
| Uh, you know, it's 57 times larger than Gaza is uh 400, obviously 400 nuclear weapons, they're the fourth largest nuclear power in the world behind the United States. | ||
| So uh the idea that uh you know all these terrorists could just cross the border, you know, when when Gaza is on lockdown 24-7, it uh it's basically been a concentration camp ever since they imposed the starvation blockade in 2007. | ||
| Uh it's really just uh, you know, it's unit's unbelievable uh that that could happen. | ||
| And so you you have to assume that there might be uh you know more to it than uh that everyone believes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Uh yeah, it certainly seems like uh well, especially with the six hour, seven hour stand down in uh in a country that takes 45 minutes to cross on in a helicopter. | ||
| I mean, it just it makes it makes no sense on the face of it, which is why we try to dig a little deeper. | ||
| So the the last thing I wanted to ask you about, and I haven't really looked into this too much, but I've seen some images that are pretty incredible. | ||
| In fact, I think we can play some of them as uh B roll. | ||
| They're released by Iran. | ||
| Iran says it has documents linked to uh Israel's nuclear program, Iranian state television on Wednesday broadcast images of documents and footage. | ||
| It says relate it says relates to Israel's nuclear activities, which Israel, Tehran's sworn enemy, has never officially confirmed or denied. | ||
| The documentary showed copies of passports to identify Israeli scientists, along with information on the location of military sites. | ||
| And it seemed like to me at first blush, this was just sort of uh just sort of a threat, sort of a shot across the bow, going, oh, we know you have a nuclear uh, you know, nuclear facilities, and we've been to them and we have some of the documents from them, you know, we're maybe closer than you realize. | ||
| What do you make of this uh publish uh publication by Iran of all this seemingly valid information about the uh Israeli nuclear uh program? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the Israeli nuclear arsenal is one of the worst kept secrets in the world. | ||
| I mean, every everyone knows that they have nukes uh uh they don't officially admit it because then they'd be subjected to uh you know massive international sanctions. | ||
| It's the same reason that Iran won't admit the existence of their nuclear arsenals because they don't want the sanctions. | ||
| Uh so um, you know, that's uh I think Iran is completely right in in stating that. | ||
| Uh as I mentioned, uh according to my sources, Iran has more nukes than France, Britain, uh, India or Pakistan or North Korea, the fourth largest uh nuclear power in the world. | ||
| And it's a country of less, you know, it's a country of seven million Jews, you know. | ||
| It's a lot of people don't realize that. | ||
| There's only seven million Jews in Israel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Uh I think that's a total population. | ||
| I think it's 7.5, 7.6 actually, out of uh 9.9 million people. | ||
| And uh, you know, they are immensely powerful. | ||
| Uh the whole Netanyahu plan, the war plan is to make them the regional superpower uh able to bomb Ira Iran uh with impunity. | ||
| And Trump's been going along with that. | ||
| And, you know, uh the a lot of uh foreign policy realist scholars uh uh other than myself have been saying, you know, the the thing that makes that region the most unstable is because Israel has too much power. | ||
| If uh if Iran had a declared nuclear arsenal, uh then they could balance out Israeli power and Israel would stop attacking all its neighbors potentially. | ||
| So uh, you know, I I don't want to I I wish Iran didn't have nuclear weapons. | ||
| I think they do. | ||
| Uh, but uh, you know, there's there's certainly a good argument to that. | ||
| And I think if uh the US had uh better relations with Iran uh then uh, you know, and and less close relations with with Israel in pursuit of you know the U.S. uh kind of America first uh foreign policy, then uh we would greatly benefit and we could restore peace and stability in the Middle East. | ||
| I think I think we have to. | ||
| I think for the sake of the earth, it's uh incumbent on us that we uh put a stop to all this madness. | ||
| Well, thank you so much uh for joining us, David Pine. | ||
| Uh you can follow his substack once again at dpine.substack.com. | ||
| That's dpyne. | ||
| Substack dot com and emp task force dot us. | ||
| Uh it's very, you know, we I feel like every time we have you on, we're like on the edge of the cliff. | ||
| We haven't fallen over yet. | ||
| So uh hopefully we'll we'll have you on again soon uh for for the newest developments. | ||
| Thank you for joining us, sir. | ||
| Thanks, Sarah and Harrison. | ||
| Always a pleasure. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right, folks, David Pine, DPine.substack.com. | ||
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| Kind of like fireworks at an old fireworks stand. | ||
| I got some uh breaking news here that I want to get to, because this video looks incredible, and it uh is a wonderful response in my opinion to the absurdity that's been taking place in Broadview, Illinois, just outside Chicago, where basically the local police have been allowing these so-called protesters to riot and attack ICE agents and surround the federal building, try to de-arrest uh deportation subjects. | ||
| Uh well, Trump is responding in a very interesting way. | ||
| Over 300 federal agents, some repelling down from the roof, uh stormed a building in Chicago. | ||
| Let's go now to this video. | ||
| This is from News Nation and just broke minutes ago. | ||
| Let's watch. | ||
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Led 300 federal officials to that apartment complex. | |
| Some even repelled down from Blackhawks onto the rooftop in order to help secure that perimeter. | ||
| Now they were searching for suspected members of the violent Venezuelan gang, Trend Aragua. | ||
| Of course, TDA has been designated as a terrorist organization under the Trump administration. | ||
| Now it was the biggest show of force that we've ever seen on the ground here. | ||
| We had agencies, uh, FBI, border patrol, ICE, and ATF all involved here, and they were all looking for targets in that same exact building. | ||
| It was a five-story building. | ||
| It was a tall task for them, and anything could have gone wrong. | ||
| But luckily the operations went pretty smoothly. | ||
| Preliminary reports show that about 30 illegal immigrants were arrested in this operation. | ||
| Some of them suspected Trend Aragua. | ||
| Now, we talked with Chief Gregory Bovino, who's running the operations on the ground for many of these ops in Chicago, and he had some words for people that are pushing back against his operations. | ||
| Take a listen. | ||
| How about you live in the apartment next Next door to trained Oragua members that are trafficking and prostitution, guns, drugs, and taking advantage of American citizens in a violent way. | ||
| Why don't you live next to them and then see how much of a gestapo or a Nazi we are. | ||
| You love hearing them respond directly like that. | ||
| And it just is so absurd. | ||
| I mean, I see protesters protesting against ICE saying ICE is engaged in human trafficking. | ||
| They're engaged in the exact no, they're stopping the human trafficking. | ||
| You absolute morons. | ||
| And it really is getting to be a war zone out there. | ||
| Not to not to overuse that phrase, uh, but you see the videos, it looks like a war zone right there. | ||
| You just had Black Hawk helicopters repelling on, I mean, they are doing like full-fledged military operations on American streets. | ||
| Now, typically we would be against anything even approaching something like that, but this is just how bad it's gotten. | ||
| It's not even an option anymore. | ||
| Now, uh, you know, if these guys start going after citizens and you know, taking guns away, okay, now we're gonna have a problem. | ||
| But what we have is a infestation of these criminal gangs that are just acting with total impunity and committing the most heinous crimes, and we have to go in and get them out. | ||
| So this is what you have a military for. | ||
| I mean, this is why you train the guys and give them the equipment so they can take care of the bad guys who are injuring or otherwise harming innocent Americans. | ||
| So, yes, deploy the blackhawks, deploy the uh, you know, repel teams, get in there and clear these people out, because every day we don't do that is another day Americans are being victimized. | ||
| And it goes on and on. | ||
| I've got so many stories here. | ||
| FBI arrests four illegal aliens hiding in Portland home after one of them aigns a laser at border patrol helicopter. | ||
| So, I mean, how stupid do you have to be? | ||
| You've got four illegal aliens living in one home. | ||
| He steps on his porch and starts aiming lasers trying to take down the uh black hawk helicopter. | ||
| They go find the source of the uh laser pointer, ends up to be a basically an illegal stash house, and they find four people, all of them illegal, and literally trying to take down a uh a helicopter. | ||
| I mean, you can blind a pilot like that, and it's extremely dangerous. | ||
| And we have this. | ||
| I don't even have time to go to this video. | ||
| It is kind of hilarious, though. | ||
| I guess we can go to a clip 38. | ||
| It's pretty fast. | ||
| Uh this is a car wash owner who gets tackled, arrested for impeding ice arrest. | ||
| He's now filed a $50 million claim. | ||
| Here he is trying to body slam an ice officer and getting knocked to the ground for it. | ||
| Now he's suing for $50 million. | ||
| My question is, why is he not in jail? | ||
| Why is he not in jail? | ||
| He's running a car wash where his entire staff is illegal. | ||
| When ICE officers come to arrest the illegal aliens, this guy starts fighting him. | ||
| He's he throws his body in the way and gets knocked to the ground and then tries to grab the ice officers as they you know take away the person for deportation. | ||
| Why is he not arrested? | ||
| He's now filing a $50 million claim. | ||
| And it may go through. | ||
| I mean, he gets the right judge. | ||
| We're gonna pay him $50 million. | ||
| He should be in jail. | ||
| His reward should be being arrested for interfering with federal officers. | ||
| That's a crime. | ||
| Arrest him, throw him in jail. | ||
| Problem solved. | ||
| Speaking of mysteries, how did you wind up knowing Alex Jones? | ||
| He it was his early videos. | ||
| It was his early documentaries, it was the stuff he produced himself, like on VHS. | ||
| I watched that documentary. | ||
| I I I'd been you know, a fan of Alex's early stuff. | ||
| And that's you know, just him. | ||
| So you knew who he was on 9-11? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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You're on a radio show and you talked about uh 9-11, and you have um is it a theory, or you just you just don't believe the government account of what happened uh on 9-11? | |
| I just had questions. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I had a lot of questions. | ||
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And um the forum I chose to to voice those questions in is the Alex Jones radio show. | |
| And um, just because he's a guy that I've been a fan of and followed for a lot of years. | ||
| He's my friend. | ||
| I would mean no disrespect. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| He's coming in a month. | ||
| But I'd never heard of Alex Jones on 9-11. | ||
| It's interesting that you so you have long felt like you want to look at other sources of information. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah, I've all I've always done my own research. | ||
| Always. | ||
| I've gotta believe that the Pentagon is the most protected and documented video protected, surveilled building uh in the history of the known universe, right? | ||
| Turns out not. | ||
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Well, I'm saying we just have one videos from the uh parking parking kiosk, yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then that is weird as well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then building seven. | ||
| It's just you can't you just can't. | ||
| You can't watch that and say that is the result of a fire that burned for five hours on two floors. | ||
| You can't sell that to me. | ||
| And and and you know, that for years that was always met with that is disrespecting the victims. | ||
| They are hurting the victims' families, the the survivors, because they continue to raise this preposterous Notion that the United States government would be so hideously manipulative that we would kill almost 3,000 of our own citizens as a pretext to going to war in Afghanistan. | ||
| How is that disrespecting the fallen heroes? | ||
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How? | |
| If you're just looking for the truth behind what is clearly not what how it was explained. | ||
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It was like it was if they had denied. | |
| So that's how I met Alex. | ||
| I said, hi Alex, I'm a fan for yours. | ||
| I said, uh, we we we have to talk. | ||
| Zero hours upon us. | ||
| And he and he called in 10 minutes. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then flew out to see you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then we thought, okay, let's build a secret weapon. | ||
| Let's do something that that like is unique. | ||
| So we got together and we wrote this piece called 20 Minutes with the President. | ||
| 20 minutes with the President. | ||
| We drilled down into the 20 things that were really bulletproof. | ||
| Really bulletproof. | ||
| But Alex said they're just gonna paint you as crazy. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And I said, really? | ||
| That that's like they can't get more creative than that? | ||
| He says, no, they're just gonna call you crazy. | ||
| And smash cut to like a week later, and it was it was literally it was Bill O'Reilly, and it was Geraldo, and they just dismissed me in one sentence. | ||
| Well, Charlie Sheen's obviously crazy. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Someone can find that clip, I'm sure. | ||
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Charlie Sheen continues to say the U.S. government knew about 9-11 before it happened. | |
| It's one of these things like Area 51 with the aliens in uh in New Mexico. | ||
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No matter how you define it, they still believe is is uh crazy. | |
| Yeah, yeah, I do. | ||
| I think he's crazy. | ||
| I think that the I think that he has uh a trick gene or a screw loose. | ||
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Firstly, I I I wanted to create a public document specifically rooted in fact. | |
| Uh if anybody dares question that, I I I would encourage those people to to scrutinize it, to research it. | ||
| Uh the truth is unchanging, Alex says we both know. | ||
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And I was always amazed to see that you always had hard data to back up your claims. | |
| In the info war. |
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