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Nov. 14, 2024 - On Brand

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OB #85 - Russell's Election Coverage

We take a look at Russell's election livestream featuring Dave Rubin and Steven Crowder, and also examine Russell's response to Trump's victory, during which Russell displays staggering levels of ignorance. Support us on Patreon! Buy a magnet handmade by Lauren! Join the Facebook Group Join the Subreddit!

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	Where did this guy come from?
	It's like he's been doing it for ages.
	He's very confident.
	Plainly, and this is a matter now of fact and record, I'm right wing.
	I feel that Christ may have had a better vision.
	Is this misinformation or is Vivek Ramaswamy in the lavatory?
	That's a sort of like a poet.
	Is this Eminem?
	Man, if we didn't come together in that stream, I'd say it was just the key.
	Now, these are the kind of conversations, I think, that the legacy media can no longer compete with.
	Win, win, win, win, win, win, win.
	This is On Brand, a podcast where we discuss the ideas and antics of one, Russell Brand.
	I'm Al Worth, and each week I go through an episode of Brand's show with my co-host Lauren B. That is me!
	I'm Lauren B. And I am the host that has no idea what we're getting into today, which is usually pretty bad.
	It's almost invariably bad, which is why we do the good thing before the bad thing.
	And Lauren, what is your good thing before the bad thing this week?
	Oh, listen.
	Listen, everybody.
	It's the goodest.
	She's back.
	She lives!
	She's back and she's in business.
	My sewing machine has been repaired successfully.
	Nice.
	And I... Yeah, there's...
	So here's the thing.
	It's a two-fold situation where...
	It's awesome that it's back.
	And the amount of, like, the literal several feet of a pile of work I've got to do now that I have it.
	Daunting, but exciting.
	I'm I'm thrilled.
	I'm so relieved and happy.
	It's the coolest.
	So yeah, Sewing Machine Watch is officially over.
	Thank everyone who gave a shit for your support.
	That's so kind.
	It's such an antique feeling to have.
	So not super relatable, but...
	But I hope at least some of you out there feel a sense of parasocial relief and joy for me.
	Because we gotta focus on those wins right now.
	And that is definitely one of them.
	It's a big one.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, it does make more work for me.
	But I also, like, sold out of Don't Talk to Cops banners again.
	So I think that we're all, you know, we're all supporting each other in our own ways.
	I just – yeah, I didn't think that that would be how – I was worried about, you know, like kind of how the election would make people feel about like spending money and buying stuff and I don't want to ever – I don't ever want anyone to put themselves in a situation that is not feasible financially or whatever.
	That's also why I sell stuff that's cheap.
	But like – Oh yeah, okay.
	If that, if like a very like grandma looking antique looking, you know, piece of fabric or art in your home reminds us what we're going to have to do a lot very soon is to watch what we say and watch what we do.
	I'm here for that.
	I can help.
	I think people are taking your advice and voting with their dollars, I think.
	Yeah, that too.
	Also, zero carbon footprint.
	That helps, right?
	I take it for granted because it's just part of it, but always needs to be set, I feel.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Right.
	Because poisoning other little kids' water supply and barely not enslaving their parents to toil in a factory for this groovy little tchotchke that has a nice slogan on it.
	Not ideal.
	Feels a little mismatched, we'll say.
	I don't want to go hypocrite because, listen, we're all working it out.
	It's a little bit mismatched.
	So I put my money where my motherfucking mouth is, including fixing this little fucking sewing machine instead of giving up on her and just replacing her.
	I didn't do it.
	That's great.
	Yeah.
	Your local sewing machine repairman is probably awesome.
	That has been my experience.
	So what's your good thing?
	My good thing this week is very simple but very effective.
	Cheese!
	Cheese is my good thing.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Uh-huh.
	So over here, like, the supermarkets tend to start selling Christmas shit around September, which feels that's too early for me.
	me it annoys me however things have properly now started uh started kicking in where like they've started bringing the christmas foods out and christmas cheeses specifically um and uh we're a big cheese country um we're pretty into that shit um and uh you get some real nice ones and so i've just been enjoying a selection of christmas cheeses this week which have been lovely Lovely.
	Yeah, like a regular one is, you know, Wensleydale with cranberries.
	That's a pretty common one.
	I don't know if you get Wensleydale over with you at all as a type of cheese.
	It doesn't ring a bell, but also I don't really get to...
	It's quite a mild kind of crumbly kind of soft thing that's nice.
	But the one I have been enjoying in particular, there's a white Stilton with apricots, orange, and amaretto liqueur.
	And I got that from Little and that was lovely.
	Just, you know, quite sweet.
	So you want to pair it with like a salty biscuit or some such, but it's good.
	It's good stuff.
	Jeez.
	Love it.
	I think that's good advice to get us...
	What did I say in the live stream?
	It's like pudgy but rested.
	Pudgy but rested revolutionaries.
	Yeah, yeah, that's okay.
	Like, if that's how we gotta do it, that's how we gotta do it.
	Yep, yep, we got Christmas coming up, so let's get into it.
	Oh dear.
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	And yes, this week we had our monthly live stream, which was a whole lot of fun.
	And also, I think, like, very emotionally validating regarding the election.
	Like, we all had to commiserate a bit and then talk about some practical steps we can all take going forward in order to be the good thing we want to see in the world.
	And also, we spent an hour talking about cookies, and that was pretty great, too.
	Had a wonderful time.
	Sure.
	I do want to say, I've been kind of...
	I'm rolling this idea around in my head.
	And to those of you that showed up in the stream and also gave me suggestions and kind of gave me a push in the right direction, I do have kind of, you know, like some of y'all have talked about your own maker or crafting practice and how you'd like to grow or how you'd like to, I don't know, even if you just need a little boost of confidence, definitely if you need advice.
	I've been doing this shit for nigh on 5,000 years.
	I've been doing it since dirt was new.
	So, I do want to work on some specific tutorial stuff.
	I love that one of y'all mentioned that sewing t-shirt material is like sewing water, and you're not wrong.
	But it is possible.
	Unlike sewing water, it is actually possible, and I kind of cracked the code on a thing.
	So, I think I'm going to put up a post on our Patreon for, like, what I can help out with, what I can, you know, whatever my, like, basically Skillshare.
	So, we'll do a little free school Skillshare moment.
	And I'm kind of working that out if you have any questions.
	And so if you have any thoughts or, you know, like you want to get in on it, or if you just want to like see how making stuff works, because I think we have very little of that in our modern lives.
	I do that too.
	So I'm going to have a public – like, so it'll be open to everybody, like, post on Patreon, on our Patreon, just, like, feed.
	So even if you're following us but you don't, like, you know, if you follow us for free, you'll still be able to see it and just see what I can do because I'm going to be making a lot of stuff very soon.
	Yeah.
	And, yeah, I mean – Also, all of you will be making a lot of stuff because it is holiday time.
	And so practical stuff like budgeting your time or knowing when to quit, like knowing when it's bad, you got to start it over.
	That helps too.
	So yeah, I think I'm trying to figure out what that's going to look like, but I'm not going to figure anything out at all until I start.
	So my health input really, really helps.
	So keep an eye out for that.
	Yeah.
	That'll be up.
	I'm trying to figure it out.
	Cool stuff.
	Very cool stuff.
	And yeah, we have a lot of creative individuals in our community.
	And yeah, I will say as well, I left that live stream feeling genuinely very emotional as to how lovely a community of people we have around this show, it must be said.
	And I'm gonna leave the stream up as public on YouTube for an extra few days.
	If anyone's feeling, like, shitty about the election or stuff, it definitely helped me.
	I think it helped the people who came along.
	Go and check it out.
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	Okay, let's get into the show.
	Very obviously, today we'll be dealing with the election.
	This is Russell's first time covering the US election, and our first time covering Russell covering the US election.
	And the first thing to note is he is taking a damn sight more seriously than he did the election in the UK, you know, the country he actually lives in, which is telling.
	So we have the live stream on election night to get through, some of which we took a brief look at when we were on that night with Louder Than Crowder, Those Boys and Knowledge Fight.
	We did a little stream with them.
	And then we also have the Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday Stay Free with Russell Brand shows from last week to look at as well, all of which were covering the election results.
	So rather than the usual hour or so, we have about five to look at here, meaning I've had to be a bit selective about what to address and try to cut out the bullshit for our sake and the audience's sake.
	And if there are any gaps in anything, I will try and fill those in where there might be any.
	All right, so.
	Shout out to DJ Danarchy for showing up as well.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Yes, yes.
	What a legend.
	Yeah, well, and shared a lot about their personal experience, too, in politics, which was, like, kind of later in the conversation when, you know, everybody had to reasonably either go to bed or go back to work.
	Yeah.
	But, yeah, it was cool.
	Yeah, I don't want to leave them out.
	That's true.
	Let's not leave Danarchy out of this.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so, in the very first clip from the election night livestream that I want to look at, we've got a very stupid thing that Glenn Greenwald tweeted out, and then a very stupid response from Russell.
	Let's have a look on Green.
	This is an interesting point from Greenwell before we get into the meat of the matter.
	It continues to be inconceivable that the US virtually all alone in a democratic world cannot count all votes in the same night as election day.
	And if it's very close, mainly days or even more than a week to determine the winner.
	Why are we being pre-bunked in this way?
	It seems like we're getting prepared for some stuff.
	So, the part Russell didn't read out from that tweet there was Greenwald stating, this is a choice.
	As though it's an intentional conspiracy that the full results of the US election aren't known within 24 hours of polls closing.
	Glenn, don't know if you're getting a bit of sunstroke from all that Brazilian sunshine, but the United States is a real big country.
	So big it goes across several time zones.
	It takes a while to count tens of millions of votes, particularly as each state has different rules and regulations about how votes are counted.
	Like some states not allowing the counting of mail-in ballots until Election Day, for instance.
	And it taking a while is actually a good sign because what it actually amounts to is there being extra steps in place to ensure the count is accurate.
	Of course, Glenn Greenwald knows this.
	Unlike Russell, he's not actually that stupid or ignorant.
	But in the weeks prior to Election Day, there was a whole lot of sowing the seeds of election fraud conspiracy theories so that they could bloom in the event that Trump lost the election.
	Russell spent a good amount of time throwing these seeds around, which is exactly what he's doing here in this clip by saying, it seems like we're getting prepared for some stuff.
	Trump himself at 4.30pm on election day posted to Truth Social that there was, quote, a lot of talk about massive cheating in Pennsylvania.
	His first election lawsuit was the Wednesday, nearly a week before the election, alleging voter suppression in Pennsylvania in preparation for a potential loss in that state.
	But the game the entire time has been the system is rigged and broken unless I win.
	And now because Trump won, he considers it to be a perfect election and everything worked great.
	The system's fantastic because I won.
	Job done, everybody.
	I guess they fixed it.
	All those problems that they had with it last time, it's all fixed now.
	It's great.
	Just evaporated away.
	Yeah, what do you know?
	Just done.
	Fancy that!
	It's not stolen now and everything's fine.
	Yeah!
	Which we knew.
	We've known this.
	We've all known this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's remarkable how transparent it is.
	It really is.
	I mean, yeah, but it's still fucking jarring that like...
	Okay, so whenever we, you know, we're, like, ready to get on the stream, this is my first time, actually, like, you know, as part of my, you know, my weekly obligations, and not, that sounds bad, in a good way, like, showing up for an election stream ever, which is very funny, because, you know, I've since had friends, like, like, oh, you actually, like, signed up to and volunteered to, like, watch the thing?
	Oh, God.
	That's fine.
	It was actually better than just, you know, stress eating and trying to ignore stuff.
	But, like, it was jarring to see that by 7pm Central Standard Time that there were already states being called because...
	It does take a long time.
	And we were all prepared for this to take a long time to count ballots.
	Now, I got an email.
	Mike and I both got emails from...
	If you vote by mail, the Chicago Election Commission does a really, really great job of tracking every single moment of the process.
	And they send you emails for, like, your vote has been sent.
	Your vote is now sent.
	Hey, turn in your vote.
	Hey, hey, hey, turn in your vote!
	And then they tell you whenever it's been processed, too.
	And we got emails on late Friday night saying that our mail-in ballots were counted.
	Right.
	What?
	Like, we don't need to do Blue Anon.
	We don't need to, like, consider it a conspiracy.
	But it really tells you, like, how long it actually takes to count the votes.
	Yeah.
	So they might still not be done in, like, you know, mail-in absentee New York or something, right?
	Yeah, I don't think they are.
	Yeah, I don't think they are fully in.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And that's, like, that's the reality.
	And it certainly is, like, weird, you know?
	Or just something to know.
	Like, that's the reality of the situation.
	And that's something that, like, knowing the reality matters.
	Because, yeah, like, I'm in Illinois, right?
	So, Illinois goes blue.
	Duh.
	All the time.
	That's right.
	But...
	We both still had a moment where we're like, oh!
	Oh, it was just now counted, huh?
	Thanks for letting us know, I guess.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, shit.
	It's weird to...
	I don't know...
	It's weird to have the evidence that a conservative would freak the fuck out about and to not freak the fuck out.
	It's also not great.
	States are being called.
	Like, called.
	Like, done.
	Nationally, right?
	Like, on television by 7pm.
	Yeah.
	Because it's making this expectation for people that is, like, there is something to be said for, like, how the media, like, the media does, let's be real, like, treat our elections like a sport.
	Like a sportball match.
	And that's not cool.
	Yeah, it's really not ideal.
	Don't even get me started on the media coverage of the situation.
	I think, had it, like, the reality is, had it been a closer election like last time, it would have taken longer.
	But because it wasn't, then, yeah, a lot of shit, especially in the less populated states, could come in real early.
	You know, which is...
	Yeah, it is jarring when all you've heard for months and months is, hey, this is going to take weeks, you know?
	And then you're like, oh, no, definitely didn't.
	Definitely didn't take weeks.
	Sure.
	I mean, it also kind of gives you an idea of, like, how many people you're actually, like, votes you're actually counting.
	Because, like, okay, Tuesday to Friday, and we sent in our ballots well ahead of time.
	So...
	Okay.
	All right.
	But that's the reality, and I'm engaging with the reality.
	And all of our media, yeah, they were saying it could take weeks, but then when the day actually showed up, that narrative was nowhere to be seen.
	Because there is an incentive for media coverage to call states as soon as possible, which...
	It's not helpful.
	Everybody go volunteer to work polls at least once.
	Please, please, please, please, please, please, please.
	Please.
	Yep.
	So much.
	And it's good to do as a citizen.
	Two things we need to de-stigmatize in this country are working the polls and jury duty.
	it's actually a really good thing there's probably other stuff on that list those are two big ones for me personally um and not just because i'm a nosy piece of shit that so that's why i wanted jury duty but like uh yeah these are things civic duties good things you learn so much right so like it just is weird to me so anyway that's it's not weird it's just it's something Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, so next up we get a clip from what amounted to roughly a quarter of Russell's election coverage, which was spent watching Alex Jones on Infowars.
	I've got to say, on the surface, this clip is one of the dumbest things that I've seen in a while.
	And to describe what's about to happen for anyone not watching the video, Alex Jones is about to hold up a meme showing a side profile of Donald Trump's head.
	The bottom of his hairline and over his ear, there's a blue line tracing from back to front, and then there's a red line tracing the top of his hair with the red line coming a good margin above the blue line.
	Alex is about to use this meme as an election prediction.
	It's going to be absolutely insane for the next 76 days after he is president-elect.
	But the fraud is not going to work.
	And when I saw this meme image today that's posted at Real Alex Jones, I said, this is a graphic image that accurately...
	I love this because it's actually the silhouette of Donald Trump's hairline, which Alex Jones says is predicting a possible outcome.
	I think the cadence of voting, that's what I think he's saying, is that there's going to be a sharp incline, then it's going to flatten out for a while.
	It's pretty good.
	that accurately depicts my prediction for the 2024 election.
	This represents my 2024 election outcome prediction.
	They are going to try the exact same thing, you'll see the same graph, but it will not go past the red line.
	It'll be a lot closer than it's depicted here.
	I actually don't understand the Alex Jones haircut graph.
	In fact, like, can we get that in picture in picturizer?
	Because it's too hard.
	I want to analyze it.
	Thank you.
	See, thanks, man.
	All right, so what?
	So the blue vote, that's good.
	Like, the Trump vote is going to escalate high and it's going to tail off.
	And the Kamala vote...
	He's gonna sort of just make it over Trump's ear, have a sharp upsurge for a minute before leveling off across his forehead.
	I mean, if that is the voting pattern, I will see that as in irrefutable evidence that Alex Jones is in touch with ulterior forces at an Ezekiel level.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Alex Jones can see into the future because of this dumb meme.
	It should hurt to be this dumb.
	It should fucking hurt.
	I don't know why.
	This isn't funny.
	This is stupid.
	This is so stupid.
	It's incredibly stupid.
	Oh my god.
	I'm being pranked.
	You're laughing too.
	I don't want to hear it.
	Jesus Christ, this is dumb.
	Oh my god.
	Dan said in a recent episode of Knowledge Fight that Alex is desperate to cement his legacy as a prophet and seer into the future.
	And Russell is all too happy to help him with it, clearly.
	But the image on the screen was never going to happen the way Alex said it was going to happen, of course.
	He said they're going to try the same thing they did last time, insinuating that the sharp uptick in the blue line there would be an attempt at election fraud, but the support of Trump would be just too overwhelming, so the fraud wouldn't work this time around.
	That's what he's trying to get at.
	Of course, there is a more sane way to look at this meme, in that it could be demonstrative of the blue shift that happens when places like California are counted, and that can account for the blue uptick there.
	But this time, the shift would be insufficient to overtake the support of Trump.
	Yeah, you look like you disagree.
	It's a fucking profile picture of Donald Trump and some conservative dipshit who has more fucking time on their hands and obviously they're not using their time on earth well, forgot they were mortal and they would die someday and got out MSP and put two lines on this guy's hair.
	This is so rock stupid!
	Yes.
	Oh my god!
	And unfortunately, regurgitating a meme he got from Twitter does not mean Alex Jones is a prophet.
	It means he's lazy.
	So profoundly, doesn't it?
	So profoundly, doesn't it?
	He's very lazy and pretty regularly uses memes as sources for news.
	But yeah, Russell still spent about a quarter of his stream watching Infowars, which, great.
	That's what we need on election night.
	On election night itself, Russell spoke with two other alt-right shitheads, one of which was Dave Rubin, and the conversation itself was remarkably dull.
	But we do learn two important personal things about Russell from this next clip.
	Do I feel hopeful?
	I'm too easily swayed.
	I could over the course of these two hours, and this is without drink or drugs.
	There could be points where I'll be ecstatic, and other points where I might cry.
	Are you planning to drink, Dave?
	Well, there is a little tequila here, and in the 30 seconds we have remaining, do you want to tell people what happened when you were at my house a couple weeks ago involving a glass of tequila?
	I was hanging out, fool that I am, open-minded gentleman that I've become with Dave and his husband, David.
	And I was so excited to eat food.
	I was really hungry.
	And in my mind, I was thinking, the food's coming.
	I was preparing some steak.
	And I was like, oh, yes, this is going to be so sick.
	I can't wait.
	I can't wait for it.
	And then, like, Dave puts too much...
	Pepper on the top of the steak.
	I put it in my mouth and someone was talking to me.
	And so I had to continue a conversation.
	I swallowed this bit of steak and it was in my throat.
	And I was like, oh no, I better grab a drink.
	And the drink I grabbed was probably Dave Rubin's own brand of tequila.
	Took a massive slug of it and felt like, it begins!
	It begins!
	And I saw my wife and everyone was sort of like, no, no!
	Strap him up!
	Strap him up!
	But luckily I have survived.
	I'm addicted to this now.
	Topo Chico.
	It could be worse than that.
	But yes, you took like two big gulps of tequila.
	You've been in recovery for something like 23 years, something like that.
	But you did some breathing exercises and here you are in Florida, flourishing, doing amazing.
	And I have no doubt that I will see you in the next day or two, my friend.
	Mm-hmm.
	Interesting.
	Like, see, I've always been under the impression that if you're, like, if you're sober and then consume alcohol or any other substance or drug, that kind of resets the sobriety clock.
	Like, that's what I've been under the impression of.
	Like, Russell was sober and drug-free for 22 years until he went to Dave Rubin's house and drank some tequila, and now it's back to being counted in days without alcohol or drugs.
	Or is it different because it was accidental?
	I know judgments here either.
	I know we have some listeners who are or have been in 12-step programs and whatnot, so feel free to chime in, anyone, as to how you would approach this situation personally.
	Yeah, we can't really speak to this personally at all.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But interesting.
	And the other thing to note from that clip is that Russell was eating steak.
	A member of his audience did ask him to clarify whether he was vegetarian, and Russell said he was vegan for many years, but recently some pretty serious people told him he needed to get pretty strong pretty quickly.
	Yeah.
	I'm assuming he's referring to his Brazilian jiu-jitsu training there, meaning Russell is not only no longer vegan, he's a full omnivore these days, and in fact he makes the point several times during the stream of how he sat there in both a leather jacket and leather trousers as well.
	What actually happened here is that being vegan was no longer serving his branding.
	He's no longer a hippie wellness guru type among the left.
	He's no longer held to any sort of moral convictions or values.
	And as demonstrated in some of our earlier episodes, Russell really fucking hated being a vegan.
	And so he dropped that as soon as he was able to get away with it.
	Yeah, values, I barely knew thee.
	One, I don't buy that the tequila was an accident.
	Two!
	He's not saying it's the first time he's eating steak, right?
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	Since he became vegan.
	Yeah, no, no.
	He's not...
	I've been wondering about this for a while, because he's been very quiet about it.
	He used to talk about being vegan all the time, then suddenly silent on it for a while.
	I was like, hmm, okay.
	Yeah.
	So, I'd also don't buy...
	This brings the whole vegan of it all into question across the board.
	Sorry.
	Because, like...
	So we don't eat meat, red meat, and we haven't for a long time, but because we like travel, we road trip, sometimes that limits your options to virtually nothing.
	So we're trying to work...
	little doses um because there also is still like a moral reason for me and like there's a lot of reasons right um but for the sake of practicality because the first time you eat meat again after not eating meat for a long time is a seismic event it's it's a you want to be at home You want to have privacy for that moment.
	So I wouldn't think it'd be at Dave Rubin's house.
	Like this is like steak and tequila.
	Oh, okay.
	But there's something that like doesn't really, I don't know.
	If Russell just makes himself like every other gunstakes cigar turd, then you're giving up your branding.
	You're giving up the thing that will make you stand out from the pack and be able to trap women.
	Don't you want to trap women, Russell?
	I think we all know that you do.
	So what's happening here?
	I mean, maybe it's just...
	Interesting.
	I am curious whether he's just maybe going to take up drinking again.
	I don't know.
	I don't know whether that's on the cards for him at all.
	I would hope not, because it seems to not go well.
	But...
	Oh, this isn't better, though!
	I mean, like...
	All the shit that he's been accused of happened when he was sober, right?
	So...
	Is there a massive difference, or is he really sober?
	All of these things are in question now.
	Come on.
	Because he should address it.
	That's the thing, is like...
	If you're in minor threat and then you're like, I'm eating steak now, people are going to be like, what?
	You're going to have to answer for it.
	If you're a straight edge band and then you're like, oh, I'm drinking Dave Rubin's tequila and eating steak, people are going to be like, I'm sorry.
	Do what now?
	And they are correct.
	They're correct to ask.
	And you should have a reason.
	Like, I have a reason.
	I have an answer.
	We have an answer.
	Right?
	Like, it's just easier to eat food when we're not in, you know, our, like, silly liberal bubble of Chicago with all these food options.
	And we have other dietary limitations, too.
	I do.
	So, like, it makes it difficult.
	And, like, sometimes it's just practical.
	And we don't want to have that seismic event while we're...
	Sleep, like camping, right?
	Yeah, that doesn't sound good.
	That's not the time to do it, right?
	There it is.
	That's my reason.
	Russell, what?
	Yep.
	It also doesn't seem smart from a branding perspective, right?
	Like, weird!
	No, no, it is literally throwing away the things that make him unique, which is interesting in and of itself.
	So, next, Russell plays a video of an absolute fucking troll going to a polling place and being a total dick about not having to present voter ID. It is rage-inducing, but to me, the video ends up being something of an own goal.
	Okay, let's have a look at...
	Oh, did you see this earlier on X? This is the voter ID moment, where someone really pushed to the limit the plausibility of not requiring identification when you show up to vote.
	Have a look at this.
	Hello.
	How we doing?
	Can I get the first three letters of your last name?
	Yeah, H-E-N. And the first three letters of your first name?
	J-O-R. It may be my...
	That may be correct.
	Oh, and your house number?
	It may be...
	They've blanked this bit out to protect the guy's identity.
	Not protecting her identity, though.
	Can you confirm your year of birth?
	It might be 1985.
	But it might not.
	Is your birthday 1985?
	It might be.
	I mean, yeah, but it might not be.
	Well, what is your birthday?
	It's 1985.
	I'm just saying it might not be.
	You can't verify it.
	But I'm just telling you it is.
	Okay, you're gonna sign an oath.
	You okay with that?
	Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna sign it up.
	Yeah, it's 1985.
	Yeah, it's my birthday.
	Great!
	I was just saying, it might not be.
	You can't see my ID, right?
	You can just verify my ID, right?
	I mean, I take your word for it.
	It's California.
	Exactly.
	So, it might not be.
	Yeah, I'll sign my email.
	So, I just want to ask a quick question, Susan.
	She asked him, she's a student.
	I get it.
	She asked him if his birthday was 1985.
	And he said, it is.
	It definitely is.
	And he says, it might not be.
	But it might not be.
	What does that mean?
	I don't know.
	- I don't know, could you, do you want to verify it?
	- Well, I'm just asking.
	- So you don't ask them if this is their date, you ask them the year.
	- Yeah, I did.
	- It's 1985.
	- It is, okay.
	- Might not be though.
	- That's fine, if you're saying it's 1985, then you're gonna sign.
	- It's 1985, this might not be.
	You can't really verify it.
	- They check your signatures.
	- Yeah.
	- A lot of people in the chat, that's crazy and it's mental.
	Yep.
	It sure is.
	What an absolute turd.
	It is crazy.
	As the very nice and admirably patient lady there pointed out, this guy had to sign an oath stating that his date of birth and other information was correct.
	And if it was ever found to be incorrect in any way, the man would have been taken to fucking court for voter fraud.
	Yeah.
	She was making it clear that you could be prosecuted for lying under oath because that's what you're doing with your vote.
	It's an own goal the whole time.
	Yeah.
	This is another, like, oh, guys, look at what a piece of shit I am, everybody.
	Right.
	Let's have a party about what a dick I am.
	Look at me being an asshole on camera.
	Now, what...
	So here...
	Okay, teachable moment, right?
	Because the gal that was kind of in charge of checking him in...
	She was doing everything that she needed to do and she was a younger white gal.
	And the person who was obviously kind of like managing that area, it's like the first table you walk up to whenever you vote, right?
	You like go in and they ask you these questions.
	Right, yeah.
	And so she was like, there's a, I'm going to say middle age, which is a wide range, black lady that came up and helped.
	And she handled, yeah, she handled that fucking great.
	Nailed it.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Look to the people that handle it right and don't entertain this bullshit.
	Because she could also tell, because I've been in this situation and like, I mean, I've been in a situation where I can see like a younger gal, right?
	And even explaining that in the moment was very smart.
	You know, you see a younger gal being pushed around by some dickhead.
	Mm-hmm.
	Show up and help.
	You can, you should, and it shouldn't be on Black Woman all the time.
	Could we stop doing that, please, America?
	For the love of God.
	There was another gal that was off camera who also showed up.
	The reason that I point out that it's a Black woman who is handling this very tense situation, and she's obviously really good at it and has a lot of experience.
	I've heard Since 2020 and before, that Black content creators and people that are trying to get into this conversation and contribute, a lot of their concern is like, please don't ask me individually over and over again for help.
	We can just look at the content that's already there and the way that they show up in the world and And not have to also ask, because it might also be a little performative.
	And if you're a white person, it might feel good to ask, like, tell me what to do.
	Now, do we understand that maybe that's a little bit much?
	And we can just learn from this and not have to also ask?
	Like, ask for help and ask for our hand being held.
	That's why I want to point that out, is that this is a teachable moment that we don't have to bother anybody about.
	It already happened.
	Yes, we should try and avoid placing more of a burden.
	Right.
	That's why I would point that out.
	I think that's important to make a distinction of just like, you know, because it sounds, I think it does sound a little weird that I'm pointing that out without that context, that like, this is the people, like, the people that we should be looking to for, you know, like, to, like, people that, like, whose voices and experience should be uplifted, um, Yeah.
	Yeah.
	100%.
	That was handled really well.
	No one escalated.
	That guy was instigating behavior.
	He was trying to escalate and no one was having it.
	This is like a video for our site.
	It should be an instructional video.
	This is how you handle this.
	Right.
	Any of that kind of stuff.
	Because there's also a lot.
	The people that come through the door on election day.
	Yeah, man.
	This happens all day.
	Some form or fashion, this happens all day.
	Well, you can tell the black lady recognized the behavior almost immediately.
	She was like, yep.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	She knew what she heard and she was like, I'm sorry.
	And she did her job, which was like, you are signing it.
	That's the first thing she went to is like, I am letting you know, you will legally be culpable for your actions right now.
	So this little game you're playing is only going to blow back on you if it goes wrong.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	And posting a video of yourself on the internet acting that way is amazing.
	Yeah.
	That's amazing.
	Yeah, it is literally, look how much of a dick I am.
	Yeah.
	That's the whole thing.
	Wow.
	So does Russell just say that's incredible?
	I can't imagine that Russell does identify...
	He just moves on.
	He just starts talking to people in the chat.
	He doesn't say anything else about it?
	He just says that's incredible?
	Yep.
	So Russell could agree with this completely.
	That's the thing.
	It's like, if you just say something vague, yeah, Russell, that's incredible.
	I agree.
	How are you going to just play that and then not even judge it?
	To be like, wow, okay.
	Like, that's...
	These little vagaries?
	Mm-mm.
	Mm-mm-mm-mm.
	Nope.
	No.
	No.
	So, from here, Russell gets to watching a bunch of Fox News coverage, which amounts to another culture of how this show was spent.
	But in this clip, he displays his incredible ignorance as to how voting works.
	Let's hit Georgia, and it looks like we have Trump up with an 11-point advantage.
	That's with over half of the votes tallied.
	So Trump with an 11-point lead in a battleground state.
	We don't know exactly which...
	Presumably, if polling, which uses much smaller resources, is somewhat reliable, then when you've got like 50% of the vote in, that should be conclusive, shouldn't it?
	Ah yes, when 50% of the vote is counted, that should be conclusive if polling data shows it swinging the same direction as whatever votes have already been counted.
	No, Russell.
	Just no.
	Polling has often been incorrect in the past, and you can't just guess at what the rest of the votes are.
	Like, you can't, like, call a state based on half the votes and some polling data.
	Like, no, it's not conclusive.
	Definitively.
	But that's also what mainstream media does!
	Genuinely.
	And we watch it happen.
	So, that's what I'm saying.
	They are patterning behavior that is giving him the extra little wiggle room to validate this kind of thinking.
	That's wrong.
	Everyone's fucking wrong!
	Well, he wants to take it a step further.
	Sure!
	Because, you know, at least when the states are called, like, statistically, it's...
	Generally, it's statistically impossible for them to go the other way.
	It's, you know, for them to, like, switch.
	You know, like, they're pretty careful about that.
	Whereas Russell's just like, nah, just call it when you got half.
	Just fuck it.
	Sure.
	They're careful.
	But does this make sense?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's leading into the same kind of thought pattern, for sure.
	I'm just taking it a little bit further down the road.
	Yeah, and I'm saying that for the sake of responsibility.
	Listen, I'm going to be beating this drum a whole lot.
	About how just this one vote is not your only vote.
	And the patterns that you, like the behavior that you represent in the world, especially if you are like motherfucking CNN or MSNBC or whatever, the stakes are very high for how you show up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Agreed.
	Agreed.
	I promise I'm not the conspiracy theory way.
	Just the regular, we need to be more responsible for the world that we are creating for ourselves.
	Because it's top-down.
	Yeah, if the last kind of decade tells us anything, it should be that.
	Yeah!
	You know, it's not gone well.
	Okay, so next we get to the other alt-right shithead that Russell spoke to, which was Stephen Crowder.
	Honestly, the conversation itself, really dumb and boring, other than Stephen and his friends throwing casual racism and homophobia around, which is de rigueur on Louder with Crowder.
	As the conversation comes to a close, we get a brief taste of the casual race talk here, as one of the people on Russell's US stuff is Cuban, and another is Argentinian.
	But we also learn something interesting about Rumble Premium.
	And, hey, Russell, I know you've got a lot to do tonight, so where's the best place Find me on Rumble the same as you.
	We're in the same place.
	We're working on this together.
	Get Rumble Premium if you don't got it already.
	And, I mean, you don't need me to tell you that the Mug Club is a fantastic place to hang out.
	I'm on Rumble streaming right now.
	The announcement tonight, Mug Club is Rumble Premium.
	Rumble Premium is Mug.
	So now Mug Club is being absorbed into Rumble Premium.
	So all those people are premium members.
	We just made that announcement tonight where we've taken Mug Club as far as we can.
	And now Rumble Premium is going to be the overall network.
	Everything on Mug Club is now available to Rumble Premium subscribers.
	And tonight is the last night people can get the OG mug because Rumble Premium, we know, is the future.
	A one-stop shop where people have tip jar fatigue.
	You know, it's like they want to support creators, but we always envisioned a portal where they can support a multitude of creators and also get something that's of value like ad-free.
	So we'll be under the same umbrella.
	Keep me one of them mugs, will ya, before they run out?
	Yes, I absolutely will.
	Alright man.
	Thank you for your wonderful Cuban-American...
	There they are!
	Good to meet you!
	I'm telling you, Russell, you're going to have to tell that one to go home because she will work all night.
	I know.
	I'm talking back here.
	They never stop.
	I'll just put on a Che Guevara t-shirt and chase her the hell out.
	You're gonna dress like Trudeau's dad.
	Alright, hey Russell, thank you brother.
	We'll talk with you soon.
	Have a great night.
	Peace.
	Take care.
	See you guys.
	Bye bye.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say Che Guevara would terrify most Cubans.
	Like, he's considered a national hero.
	I'd say Fidel Castro would be quite scary, possibly, depending on your perspective.
	But all of this is a little bit moot, because the people working for Russell are likely to be pretty immediate targets of Trump's large-scale deportation plan, and so I think ICE will be doing the job of getting them out of there, regardless of what Russell does.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there's a lot of misunderstanding around that whole...
	Che Guevara thing?
	Well, just in general.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	Don't get your...
	Yeah, don't get your Cuban history from these guys.
	Just don't.
	Yeah, seems ill-advised.
	Seems ill-advised.
	Glowback has a whole season, and you should listen to that.
	It's great.
	It's fantastic.
	Yeah.
	I might do just that.
	Don't even engage with this.
	Yep, yep.
	Anyway, so it seems Stephen's mug club is being consumed by Rumble Premium, meaning Stephen will presumably then be getting a cut of Rumble Premium subscriptions, and the original mug is being taken off the market, oh no.
	Which does make me wonder whether Russell's Locals channel will face a similar fate in the near future, given that Locals is tied to Rumble.
	I'm just, hmm.
	Hmm.
	Something to keep an eye on.
	I don't know.
	It still seems like they would keep that separate.
	I would think.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But then I would have thought the same about the Mug Club, but I don't know.
	Well, yeah.
	I'm really interested to see how that will develop.
	But also, if Stephen's willing to do that, maybe Mug Club wasn't making that much money anymore.
	Maybe that is definitely a possibility.
	Definitely a possibility.
	Okay, so next, Russell once more displays his ignorance, this time as to why votes are counted on the West Coast later than the East Coast, before telling a fucked up story.
	Is it literally grey on the West Coast because of the time, because of the way that the planet is rotating?
	Is that why?
	Well, that's kind of lovely, isn't it?
	That in itself is a reminder of a deeper power.
	As the Earth spins and travels around the Sun, the light illuminates the East Coast first and travels across, illuminating and bringing light.
	It reminds me of when I visited...
	Angola Penitentiary, Louisiana.
	And the governor Burr Kane said the executions that he practiced in that prison were done at dawn so that it was God that determined when those men would die, not him.
	I still felt there's been a judicial process that's led to them being in prison and there are a lot of questions to ask about the death penalty, but nevertheless, to be reminded by the change in colour of the map that there are greater powers at work is perhaps the kind of humility that we need to access on election night.
	I mean, what the fuck?
	Wouldn't that be gravity?
	Yes.
	Jesus, I mean, like, here's the thing.
	Telling that story is one thing, right?
	Telling that story while continuing the tone of, like, revering the Almighty throughout is another thing entirely.
	Like, it's really fucked up to hear, like...
	Yeah, I was there at this place where people were chemically murdered by the state, but the sunrise does make you think there's a higher power at work, you know?
	Like, dude, no!
	Stop this!
	This is not good!
	Yeah!
	Saying that there is any, like, you're absolving yourself of any culpability for killing people.
	That's 100% what that guy was doing.
	If you're like, God's gonna decide the time?
	Yeah, 100%.
	That's a fucking hand wave, bro!
	Yep.
	Yep.
	And yeah, it does matter that you are using the death penalty as your example.
	The hypocrisy should be smacking you in the face.
	It's such a weird choice as well.
	I think this is...
	So his Rolodex of poetic nonsense is deep.
	And it's not nonsense in context, I'm sure.
	But it's nonsense when he just wants to fill time with it.
	And do his...
	It's like automatic, right?
	He's the stream of consciousness, right?
	He's talking.
	Yeah, Russell.
	It's really hard to fill a lot of time.
	You kind of have to plan ahead for it for an election because there's a lot of us not knowing stuff.
	Well, yeah, and Russell in particular already does not know a lot of stuff, which causes problems.
	I mean, he was only on for two hours total, which for an election night is a small amount of time.
	But yeah, a lot of it was spent like him sat in silence watching Fox News or watching Infowars and then occasionally going...
	Ah!
	You're like, oh dear.
	Okay.
	Well, you've described a lot of election coverage there.
	That's fair.
	That is fair.
	Because there isn't that much to do unless you plan ahead and you have contingencies.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Oh dear.
	Okay, so now we have the final clip taken from the election night stream.
	And it's ending because Russell is getting kicked out of the building.
	That's why they had to stop at 10.
	And apparently, had they stayed any longer, Rumble would have been charged for however long they stayed.
	So they had to get out.
	And a security guard of the building comes into the studio, and Russell briefly interviews him.
	Why are you all talking about crypto?
	Tell security to fuck themselves, man.
	That's so dark.
	No way.
	Hold on, they are coming in.
	Come in, sir.
	Do you mind joining me?
	We're just covering the election in your country.
	Do you mind joining us?
	We'll get a seat for you.
	I better go full screen for you.
	Come in.
	Come in.
	Que es su nombre, señor?
	Jorge.
	Gracias, Jorge, for joining us.
	Right, we've got the crucial Spanish-Hispanic demographic.
	Sir, your color is literally blue.
	This is as good as it gets.
	Right, this is actual insights.
	Can you say welcome?
	Bienvenue.
	Are you a genuine American voter?
	And have you voted?
	You're American, you can vote.
	Yes, I'm American.
	I voted for Trump.
	Hey, he voted for Trump.
	The Latinos are breaking hard for Trump.
	This one with an actual blue collar.
	Are you a Latino, sir?
	¿Eres Latino?
	Sí.
	Cubano.
	Cubano.
	He's a Cubano and he's broken hard for Trump.
	I think this is good as wraps the night up.
	This is our conclusion.
	Thank you for joining us, sir.
	We have to leave the building, is that right?
	Yeah, there was something quite viscerally upsetting to me about watching what appears to be a perfectly nice old Cuban man who doesn't speak English celebrating the fact he voted for Donald Trump seemingly without realizing it potentially means his own deportation or the deportation of someone he knows and cares about.
	I'm like, oh, that's a bleak way to finish this stream.
	Thanks, Russell.
	Yeah.
	I mean, so actually, the news agents came over to Florida to do election coverage.
	I don't know if all of them came over, but I think two of them did.
	Maybe all of them?
	That doesn't matter.
	Stop.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That, like, they did kind of, like, early voting exit poll interviews.
	And, yeah, this was the narrative that a lot of, like, independent journalists were reporting, is, like, basically whatever messaging Trump Directed at the Latino vote worked.
	And we know he's lying, but that's something that, like, are we protecting these people from liars?
	Doesn't look like it.
	Nope.
	And also, but he works security at this place.
	He probably speaks some English.
	You would think.
	It's a little weird that, like...
	I mean, it's cool that, like, they're, you know, translating so he feels more comfortable expressing himself.
	That's cool.
	But, like, it's a little, I don't know.
	It's not, it could be pandering.
	I'm not going to make that actual claim.
	But this is another lesson.
	The lesson that we can take that's positive is this is exactly how you get away with shit.
	The person that's going to kick you out, you make them feel important.
	This is definitely most reliable for white guys, but take this as a lesson.
	If you are in a position to make someone feel important when you should be getting in trouble, definitely do this.
	In a vacuum, just this behavior.
	We're learning a lot.
	We're learning useful things here.
	This is not necessarily what Russell is intending, but we can still glean, you know, like some useful information to take with us into our lives.
	Absolutely.
	Make friends with the security guards, make friends with door staff, make friends with the bouncers, you know?
	I mean, whatever, you know, all the above.
	If you can, do it.
	Be nice if it's a possibility.
	Oh, dear, oh, dear.
	Okay, so now we move to Wednesday's coverage, the day after the election, when the results were in, and Russell goes on a five-minute rant at the top of the show, and I've cut a little bit from it, and he has something of a unique take.
	Nothing was improved by switching out Joe Biden when his senescence and decay became evident to Kamala Harris, who was due to be a cipher to a set of ideas that are not resonant.
	And I tell you why it's probably not enough to say vote for this person because they are a female or because they are not white, because actually in truth...
	I believe that America is not a racist country.
	Now, I know I say this as an Englishman, I say this as a white person, but I say this as a person that's walking around your country talking to Americans all the time.
	So, in the broader context, what he's arguing here is that America is not racist because people didn't vote for Kamala Harris.
	As in, while they couldn't be swayed by just the argument that Kamala Harris was a brown person, and therefore they don't care about race.
	And two things here.
	One, this narrative fits into the ridiculous ideology that Kamala Harris was a DEI hire who was picked solely for the color of her skin and the fact she's a woman, and that she had nothing else to offer and no other credentials at all.
	And secondly, it completely reverses and obfuscates the idea that, hey, perhaps a portion of American politics is chock full of racism and misogyny because those things are literally what the country was founded on.
	But yeah, this white Englishman is going to tell you otherwise.
	Rich, white, Englishman.
	Rich, white, Englishman, yes.
	Rich, white, Englishman.
	Incredibly rich, yes.
	Also, you know what?
	I'm not confident that she wasn't thrown on the pyre because of her identity.
	I'm not confident.
	I don't think that the Democrats are particularly responsible in their racially charged choices either.
	Yeah.
	I can't tell you that either way.
	Obviously, it's not the only thing that she has to offer.
	She had experience in politics.
	Right.
	But, like, either way is insult.
	Like, the thing is, it's insulting to say you have to vote, like, oh, if you're a woman, oh, if you're black, you have to vote for her.
	That is also insulting.
	Yeah.
	That's an insulting assumption, let alone a demand.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And whenever Joe Biden said, I'm going to pick a woman for vice president, that insulted me.
	I thought that was a gross fucking thing to say.
	If you have an individual in mind, say that.
	You want to pick the most qualified, appropriate choice?
	That's what you should do.
	And I've said this on this show.
	We have new people, new listeners.
	I have mentioned this many times before in my professional career.
	I've worked in a very male-dominated space.
	And if someone walked in just saying, I want to get tattooed by a woman, well, when you want to get tattooed by Lauren, you can call me.
	I have a portfolio you can check out.
	If you want to get tattooed by Lauren, you let me know.
	But just generically, I want to get tattooed by a woman.
	And not to say that it's not valid for all the reasons that someone would want that.
	But make sure that you also will be happy with the product I can provide.
	Yeah.
	Well, one would think that should be the important, like, that's a really important bit of it.
	Kind of the most important.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, it's fucking insulting to just, to make that, like, for anyone, right?
	That's not right.
	And it's not good enough.
	You better.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So next, Russell says a bunch of things out loud that I really didn't want to confront before providing a bit of cover for the incoming Trump administration.
	And I hope and pray that we can come to a consensus on this idea at least.
	Wouldn't it be better for us if a Trump administration with Bobby Kennedy in charge of health now, with Tulsi Gabbard influential in the media industrial complex, with a new changing financial model under the stewardship and investigation of Elon Musk, Legacy media quaking with the judiciary and legacy media knowing now that they can't control reality.
	They can't, if someone is opponent and a vocal opponent of theirs, they can't just smear and slash and execute.
	They can no longer use it as excuses.
	We're protecting you in order to control you.
	It's gone.
	It's over.
	Now that doesn't mean...
	That Donald Trump and the Republican MAGA movement is going to become perfect because there's still a deep state, there's still a military industrial complex, there's still the threat of globalism, there's still the threat of China or Russia or pick an enemy.
	But what we have now, I believe, is something that's much closer to democracy than we were led to believe and possibly being ushered towards a few weeks ago.
	Because people can't be lied to.
	And if indeed it does prove to be true that this election was won by Trump, in particular because of Hispanics and black people, then they can't even divide us by telling us that everyone is racist now.
	Yeah, no black or brown people can be racist against people of their own race, and no one can vote against their own interests, apparently, ever.
	That's not a thing.
	According to Russell.
	Well, I do want to point out, if you don't want to confront things that Russell says, you can quit.
	You don't have to.
	No one told you to go to your head.
	Just to let you know about your own agency as well.
	Just listen, we're all free to make our choices here.
	Yeah, there was a narrative that was pretty reprehensible that was like...
	Assuming that Black people would...
	Like, scolding Black men specifically to not vote for Kamala.
	And that is the group that overwhelmingly, like, by degrees, voted for Kamala Harris.
	Just so everybody knows.
	Don't get it twisted.
	That was...
	I think a bad investment of energy.
	Like I saw like black, you know, creators like scrambling to be like, oh my god, why are they saying, like, why is the Democrats already telling us that we're not going to, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.
	Like it was really pretty distasteful, man.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's hard to confront the reality of a racial or gender experience without making it kind of performative identity politics.
	That's hard.
	That's not my job.
	That's the politician's job to do it right.
	So if they don't, not our fault.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, there's still a deep state and there's still a military-industrial complex and there's still a threat of globalism.
	So, you know, we can't expect Donald Trump to be perfect.
	Already the excuses have begun, which I feel like is what we're going to see a lot over the coming months and years.
	I am already irritated by it.
	But here we go.
	It's going to be another four years.
	We're in the deep state, did it?
	You know?
	I'm like, They don't even need to make new chyrons.
	This is going to be the same thing all over again.
	They're just like, can you imagine the amount of people that have to manage this shit?
	They're like, oh, cool.
	I've already made all these graphics.
	I don't even need to change them.
	Like, they're all the same shit.
	Yeah, I just need to change 45 to 47.
	There we go.
	Done.
	Well, genuinely, like, depending on how organized you are, that might not be ideal.
	But for those who are organized, they're gonna...
	It's smooth sailing.
	Because, yeah, this is all the same stupid shit.
	Yep.
	That's...
	Yeah, I mean...
	Immediately out the gate the day after the election.
	I'm like, oh, goddamn.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Also, the stuff that he just said, we have to confront it.
	We don't really get a choice.
	It sucks.
	Yeah, this is it.
	I'm like, switching Russell off would unfortunately not switch reality off, and these things aren't our reality.
	So here we are.
	We've got RFK Jr.
	potentially in charge of health.
	Tulsi Gabbard's in there.
	We've got Elon Musk swimming around in that sea as well.
	And it's...
	Yeah, it's good and interesting.
	I do want to share a point.
	I think that all of us are...
	Nobody's resting on a laurel or even necessarily taking a breath, right?
	Yeah.
	Obviously, take care of yourself, but I think that there's a lot of things that can be too stressful.
	kind of like, I think that the exhaustion comes like our like political emotional exhaustion comes from spinning too many plates at once.
	So we need to focus on the small wins.
	It's what I've been telling people in the last week.
	It's like focus on the little stuff that you can control and that you can kind of manage in your own life.
	And we're small wins that are happening, you know, kind of take it day by day and piece by piece instead of just like looking at the big picture and getting overwhelmed and then letting that overwhelm you and exhaust you.
	That is a choice that you can make, but it does take practice, and that's okay.
	And again, there's plenty of resources to learn that practice of taking these piecemeal pieces of information that are heartening.
	And I think that we can hold a lot of those ideas in our head as possibilities or, I don't know, even for fun.
	But yeah, the reality is all of those people that are kind of threatened to have access to the government, the one thing we do know...
	Reliably, as a trend from the previous Trump administration, is the absolute firebombing he does of his relationships frequently and consistently.
	So there are, and I think it's entirely reasonable because you are, he is trying to wrangle a lot of like type A personalities.
	Yeah.
	And that didn't work out well for those people, albeit, you know, like a different kind of breed of person in 2016.
	But there's a potential for us to see like a rancid couple fight between Trump and Musk or Trump and RFK Jr.
	I think that's kind of like considering how their relationships go.
	Oh, boy.
	They don't handle their feelings well.
	This is true.
	None of the people we've mentioned handle relationships particularly well, as far as I can tell.
	I mean, Tulsi Gabbard probably being the smartest and most capable one to navigate, but boy, oh boy.
	Like, I am...
	I'm very worried, especially, and I've said this on the podcast before, this is nothing new.
	I'm very worried about RFK Jr.
	specifically.
	There's a lot of things that are very reasonable to worry about.
	But the past dictates that once in office and once the rubber hits the road and people actually have to deliver and govern, that it is a revolving door in the administration.
	Yes.
	Yes, and there's a degree of winning is easy, young man, governing is harder.
	The situation can look a lot different once you get there as to the things you planned to do, right?
	Yeah, and it's not necessarily to say that we can't rely on that, right?
	Because the last time, I don't think Trump even necessarily expected to win, so he wasn't prepared.
	They are a lot more prepared now, I think.
	I think I heard a lot in like the last week before the election, I heard a lot of people kind of saying like, well, Trump wasn't a dictator last time.
	He's not going to be a dictator this time.
	That's not how second terms work.
	That's not how second terms work.
	So yes, there is a different situation here.
	Like there is a mandate, like there's, and a mandate is kind of like a fictional idea, but still like he could wield that as a concept.
	But specifically like, okay, I know this is tough.
	We can't rely on this information, but we should still consider it as maybe just to temper the fear that like these people are like they self-destruct.
	Mm-hmm.
	And the pressure is going to be very high because these people have not been in government.
	They have been in business.
	And business is different than governing.
	Even if all of these institutions have kind of been rent asunder legitimately.
	The institution may not even be it.
	It might just be an attitude problem phone call that causes a huge couple fight.
	And then magically we're all in Ikea watching this divorce go down.
	We never know, you know?
	That's just something to remember.
	The one thing these people are fucking awful at is working together.
	So, which could have just terrible consequences too for us.
	True.
	Very true.
	There's a flip side to that point.
	Yeah.
	Like they're not all magically going to learn how to cooperate on January 21st.
	No.
	No.
	No, that is true.
	Oh, it's going to be interesting to watch.
	At the very least, it is going to be interesting.
	Anyway, most of Wednesday's coverage was actually really boring, and it just amounted to Russell celebrating, basically, which, frankly, we don't need to hear.
	So we move to the Thursday, and Russell decides to follow in Alex Jones' footsteps and report on a meme from Twitter.
	We're going to have a look at Kamala Harris saying fight a bunch of times.
	Kamala Harris, who, by the way, only won states that do not require voter ID. Surely, just a coincidence, losing somehow 20 million of the votes that Joe Biden had in the last election.
	It was 81 million, so like 15 million less votes.
	Don't know where those votes all went or how they were not concocted or conjured up.
	Yeah, Russell's also spent a good chunk of time this week insisting that because the voter turnout, and particularly the Democratic turnout in 2020, was higher than usual, and higher than the 2024 election, it must be some kind of conspiracy, right?
	Leaning into the idea that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump.
	And that the Democrats, you know, invented 15 million extra votes, basically.
	He's been saying, oh, if 60 million is the norm, then how did they suddenly get 80 million?
	Except this time around, just here, he made a bit of a slip by saying, yeah, I don't know why those weren't concocted up this time, which immediately kind of debunks his little conspiracy theory if you take the thought even a microsecond further.
	Like, yeah, dumbass, if the Democrats were capable of that and already had done it once, why wouldn't they have done it this time?
	No shit!
	No shit!
	Sure kinda disproves the whole thing.
	Right.
	And the fact that they're not scrambling to explain that and make that its own headline.
	And I don't know.
	I'm not super plugged into every single conservative.
	I don't know what Dan Bongino's up to on this good day.
	Right.
	If the Stop the Steal narrative disintegrates immediately because your guy won...
	Get fucked.
	You think wrong.
	You're bad at thinking.
	You think wrong.
	There was a point that was made that I think is really telling about Joe Rogan and all these right-wing and conservative influencers that had access to Trump and interviewed Trump.
	I didn't necessarily collate this data.
	I don't even think that Alex Perlman did either.
	either a Pearl Mania 500, like really kind of put this out there.
	All those guys, either if you're like a save the child, like Tim Ballard, save our children guy, or if you are like an Epstein, like let's talk about Epstein guy, which those guys are either one or the other or both.
	We have so much proof, not only that Trump was super close with Epstein for decades, but that Jeffrey Epstein, while Trump was in office,
	was connected to the White House itself, was basically was connected to the White House itself, was basically part of kind of like a consultancy situation where he had access to the Oval Office, like the goings on in the Oval Office while Trump was there.
	None of those dudes asked him one fucking question about Jeffrey Epstein.
	Right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So don't ever forget that they had a chance, even in the way that like just to deny it or just anything.
	Like you could set it up in a way where Trump could punt, you know, or like, you know, T-ball, you know, like softball a question.
	Nothing.
	So every one of them motherfuckers, you heard it by not hearing it.
	They didn't ask.
	Get his name out your mouth.
	Get all their names out your mouth.
	Don't talk about Epstein.
	Don't go wondering in your little, you know, like having your little like fantasy bubbles about, oh, this guy is this whatever.
	That guy was a fucking menace.
	That guy was a problem for decades and no one did shit.
	Nothing.
	Yeah.
	or barely did anything to remedy these massive problems we still haven't even touched it as like the social like the serious implications for our legal system for the society we have built all of it and any of them that had a chance and didn't ask you're on notice do not forget they let you down Because Epstein considered himself to be one of Trump's closest friends, you know, and you're like, what?
	Okay, you're just not going to ask him anything?
	You're not going to ask Trump anything about this?
	Right.
	At all.
	Dana White, another one of your closest friends.
	Guilt by association.
	Listen, if it was a different situation, if the shoe was on the other foot, they'd be asking.
	And I know because I've lived in America the whole time.
	So the hypocrisy...
	Like, listen, the shoe was on the other foot with Bill Clinton, right?
	Like, party-wise.
	This has happened.
	So...
	Motherfuckers need to answer for this shit.
	And if it didn't even occur to you to ask, then obviously you do not care.
	And I don't want to fucking hear it from you about keeping women safe or children safe or anyone from keeping them unabused.
	I do not want to fucking hear it.
	Yeah, it's either it didn't occur or it did occur and you intentionally didn't ask it because he's your guy, you know, which is also bad.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	That's exactly what I've said.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	Yeah.
	And for anyone listening, Russell flashed up a meme before from Twitter saying, quote, Kamala won and all the states that didn't require voter ID. Hashtag catching on yet.
	Hashtag dodgy Dems, unquote.
	And firstly, no she didn't.
	And secondly, the states that don't require voter ID laws are fairly obviously mostly going to be left-leaning states in general because they're able to acknowledge that voter fraud is a non-issue and voter ID requirements mostly just disenfranchise the poor and people of colour.
	So, fucking duh.
	But she still didn't win Nevada or Pennsylvania, for instance, neither of which have voter ID laws.
	You still have to register!
	Yeah, yeah, right, yeah.
	Yeah, there's still a system.
	They need proof that you were a person.
	Yeah, it's just because it's, I mean, come on.
	Yep, yep, it's dumb.
	Alright, so from here Russell did something I sort of didn't expect.
	He plays a Best of Liberal Meltdowns compilation, which he pulls from Infowars.
	Laughing at people's pain is Alex Jones' bread and butter around these times, so not surprising from him at all.
	But it was somewhat surprising to see Russell engaging with it.
	Russell's tactic, however, is not to laugh, but to psychoanalyze, minimize, and obfuscate instead.
	If you voted for that man, if you voted for anybody other than Kamala and you live in one of the states, that it...
	If you vote for anyone, listen, please, I'll try to be specific in particular.
	I'm not saying that those people, those individuals, should be ridiculed or condemned.
	I know a lot of you will really get off on it.
	What I'm saying is, what is making them feel that way?
	In the same way that we can be directed to drink Coca-Cola, when it's not really very good for you, and I let my children drink it.
	What kind of conditioning, what kind of coaxing, what kind of propaganda has led people to think that what's about to happen is so significant and so against their interests that it warrants this degree of emotion?
	We live in one of the states that it was, you know, close.
	Or if you didn't vote, fuck you.
	Woman crying.
	I chose family!
	I chose women!
	I chose America!
	I love you!
	That's people that's not very...
	I reckon what you'd find, like, remember, from a compassionate and loving perspective, that many of them people have been exposed to trauma and also now propaganda, so they connect that propaganda to their trauma.
	Like, you know, they've had tough lives in one way or another.
	Of course, everyone's had a tough life because it's tough out here.
	That's why you probably do need a kind of tough president for these tough times.
	And certainly what you need are people that are willing to get in there and look at the institutions of government.
	Certainly you need people that want to end war.
	I don't know how they've been coaxed into that state.
	Everyone's saying in the chat, legacy media, legacy media, maybe you're right.
	I love you!
	How the fuck is this?
	Right.
	Some people are saying some of the stuff that Trump said in the Awakened Wonder chat, like the grab-em-by-the-P-word moment.
	I suppose so.
	Like, you know, that was not a great thing to have said on tape.
	But when was that?
	And what was that?
	And do you think that Donald Trump's sort of really like that as a sort of a married man, as a father now?
	Certainly me, in the past, I might have said pretty dumb things.
	But...
	Does it warrant that kind of hysteria?
	And how is that going to actually affect your...
	Like, if you can't handle people saying stuff, it's going to be a tougher world.
	Mm-hmm.
	So Russell's contention here is that people have been brainwashed into believing Trump's incoming administration is going to be not just bad, but potentially personally harmful to them and those they love.
	And all of those people have just had their past traumas weaponized by legacy media, and that's why they're upset, and there can't be any legitimacy to the things they're saying.
	Despite the fact that most of the people in this compilation are women, by the way.
	Surely there can't be anything that women would be particularly concerned about over the coming years.
	Or yes, maybe it was just the grab-and-buy-the-pussy comment from 2016 that's causing so much concern.
	You know, I thought about an illustration to maybe make men understand the implications here, right?
	Like, the fear that is...
	Okay.
	Also, I mean, there's some threats there that I would like to address at some point in a different light.
	But as far as, like, women being scared and upset...
	Maybe this will help.
	Imagine someone telling you, you can either choose or maybe you don't choose to swallow this grenade.
	We've taken out the pin, but we've got a rubber band around the little handle that keeps it from exploding.
	So swallow this and carry it around in your body for nine months.
	Hope nothing bad happens.
	Good fucking luck.
	for all women who can get pregnant, definitely women who want to get pregnant.
	It's not just the message for the states that are banning abortion.
	It's not just the states that have limitations, right?
	It's all women in America.
	And we know this by now.
	We knew this before, but now we have proof because it's happening that, the ability to be impregnated is incredibly dangerous.
	Yeah.
	The entire state around it.
	So imagine someone telling you, well, God wants you to carry this grenade with a rubber band around it.
	Around in your stomach area, right?
	Swallow this and carry it around for nine months.
	And see how confident you feel going through your daily life.
	Especially if you want to conceive.
	If you want to get pregnant.
	That, like...
	That is the reality.
	And the thing is, it's not the reality for even for women in your country and for women in Europe, because it's not the it's not a grenade.
	Yeah.
	That is waiting to explode if you have adequate health care.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Like, there are protections over here.
	I'm not sure if it's been passed yet, but there's a law that the Labour government are introducing that prevents anyone from protesting outside an abortion clinic within, I think, like 200 metres or something.
	Like, it's a long fucking way.
	Well, they should codify abortion on demand, not have to ask two people.
	But that's good, too.
	We'll take that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because that also fucking sucks.
	Yeah.
	And is, like, obviously evil.
	It's so obviously evil to, like, blow a picture of baby parts and show it to women that are coming to the abortion clinic.
	Like, you steal a picture of a human who was killed in Cambodia...
	And you claim that it was abortion, and you show it to women to scare them.
	The thing is, is like, the scaring is coming from inside the house and outside.
	Scaring people is like, that's also the stakes that Democrats were using to raise money as well.
	Because they weren't doing what they could have done.
	Like, they weren't trying everything that they could.
	They weren't pulling out all the stops.
	They were not thinking, like, they were not...
	They were saying that democracy is dead.
	Democracy is over.
	They weren't acting like it.
	They were not acting like it.
	And the fact that a lot of us still got together and tried to work it out and take this problem more seriously than they obviously did, that speaks to your character for sure.
	But like, it shouldn't have had to happen.
	They should have offered us something.
	She never even had a plan that was clear.
	She never delineated, here's how I'm going to protect abortion.
	Step one, step two, step three, step four.
	Say it.
	Yeah.
	With your whole chest because we have heard this shit for fucking years.
	Yeah.
	That we're gonna...
	Don't worry.
	Like, if you vote for us, we'll take care of it.
	You know how many fucking emails and text messages I have gotten in my life saying that very thing, but we still end up here?
	No, I'm sorry.
	We're grenade carrying now.
	Yeah.
	That's what we're doing.
	Yeah, it was very much, it wasn't a case of like, here's what I'm going to do.
	It's a case of, well, I'm not going to do what that guy's going to do.
	Right.
	How about that?
	And like, yeah, that's not enough.
	Shocking, that's not compelling to voters.
	Yeah, amazing.
	Anyway, this whole taking people from TikTok thing is all gross.
	And Russell spends a full 10 minutes talking about this compilation.
	And on Honestly, it gets pretty upsetting with Russell either obfuscating or fully just ignoring the concerns these women have and talking about something else.
	And I'm not going to put us through it because it's not productive and it will just amount to me telling Russell to go fuck himself for half an hour straight.
	So instead, we're going to move to Friday's coverage.
	And Russell is going to play a clip from Morning Joe.
	Let's have a look at Morning Joe condemning Hispanic voters precisely for being racist.
	Democrats need to be mature.
	And they need to be honest.
	And they need to say, yes, there is misogyny.
	But it's not just misogyny from white men.
	It's misogyny from Hispanic men.
	It's misogyny...
	If it is a kind of unconscious misogyny that's somehow biological or sociologically inculcated in ways so insidious it's impossible to avoid or regulate, then what's Joe Scarborough saying that he...
	Hasn't got that kind of misogyny.
	That is the kind of courtiness.
	But no one's better than anybody else.
	No one's better than anyone else.
	And isn't that an important part of their position about protecting vulnerable minorities and stuff?
	And so when you see them sat there, I am essentially better than you.
	Here's some stuff that I think.
	...from black men, things we've all been talking about, who do not want a woman leading them.
	Might be race issues with Hispanics.
	We do not want to, I don't think, I just, you know what, I don't think people care.
	Hot take.
	Thanks, Russell.
	Nobody cares about misogyny, apparently.
	And it's shocking to hear this from one of the world's premier misogynists.
	So, Russell is again here obfuscating the point.
	Joe Scarborough, while he is up his own arse, he wasn't saying that he personally doesn't have any internalized misogyny, or at least wasn't making that claim or coming from that position.
	He was trying to argue the point that misogyny is a problem among men in America, regardless of their race, and it's an issue everybody has to confront.
	And as you were pointing out in the livestream just the other day, Lauren, like, the people most likely to be able to reach out to white men are other white men.
	So, in a way, I'm glad the conversation's happening to some degree, and there will be some white men listening to Joe Scarborough on this issue, and it's something, even if Russell is being a piece of shit about it.
	But yeah, that's the point that he's implicating.
	Old Joe is implicating.
	Over-fucking-whelmingly voted.
	Left white men?
	So far in the dust?
	Different time zone.
	Sorry.
	Let's talk about the reality here.
	Also, who is making money off of...
	Ramping up that misogyny in those different demographics and absolutely exploiting them.
	White guys.
	Rich, white guys at the top, period.
	Russell doesn't understand how serious the abortion issue is.
	Because he, for a million reasons, right?
	Like rich, white, British, fucking also a dick, like also a misogynist, right?
	Women aren't people, why would you worry about them?
	He was confronted with the reality with Neil Oliver on that live stream when they were covering the DNC. He was confronted with the reality once.
	Of what abortion bans, even the way they are right now in America, do to people and to women.
	And they were both chilled and had to scramble to rationalize their position.
	And Trump gave them the rationalization of states' rights.
	And it worked.
	So I don't see a lot of utility.
	And I don't know, man.
	I want to see shit.
	I want to know what works.
	And what works.
	Is that, like, that cop-out of states' rights, and that can end, like, that's a thought-stopping, like, that's a thought-stopping statement, and that's what worked for Russell, that's what worked for Neil Oliver, and we've seen it work for people, definitely a lot of men, and also women!
	White women are on the fucking hook for this shit, too!
	Oh, yeah.
	Looking to your left and to your right, finding who to blame is a fool's fucking errand.
	We need to understand that the people making money off of these messages are the ones that are motivated the most to make these problems persist and exacerbate them.
	So looking next to you, definitely anybody on motherfucking TV, do not punch down.
	How dare you?
	And that's not just this clip.
	That's in general.
	And it's so counterproductive.
	So if you find yourself getting very angry at your neighbors, by all means, you need to know which neighbors are going to be dangerous to you for sure.
	But that is not where you should be directing your anger because it is not like you need to figure out where to fucking put your anger.
	We all do.
	Look up.
	Well, and there's a lot of different places.
	But be realistic about the capitalism of it all and on the monetary incentive of it all.
	People act like this is all attitudes and messaging and whatever.
	Messaging costs money.
	There was a lot of messaging that was dog shit.
	There's a lot of consultants and a lot of quote-unquote experts, quote-unquote, that need to be fired.
	A billion dollars!
	A billion dollars.
	Okay, they need to be fired rather than fail up.
	And guess what?
	They've been failing up.
	They hire fucking losers.
	So no, they are not taking this problem seriously.
	So those women who are crying, they have a bone to pick with a lot of people, not just Trump.
	And to direct their anger at their neighbors is cruel.
	And that's a project of the Democratic Party.
	They are not equipped to handle this situation and they've proven it.
	Both sides benefit from class warfare at the end of the day.
	Of course.
	Also, obviously, look at the people that are winning and making the most money.
	They are the ones that you should direct your anger at.
	Yep.
	A hundred percent.
	A hundred.
	For fucking sake.
	His media double noises!
	Fuck, man.
	It's just...
	Because obviously he can't handle...
	He being Russell, right?
	He can't handle engaging with the reality of these situations.
	That's why he uses all these fun, flowery little languages and whatever, and he's going to think of like a fucking...
	He's going to think of a Joyce quote, not deal with the reality in front of his stupid fucking face.
	Yeah.
	That's a problem!
	Yeah.
	It shouldn't be lucrative, but it is.
	That's where we're at.
	We need to deal with the material fucking realities.
	Yeah, I mean, when we talk of failing upwards, Russell is a bit of a paragon of that, really.
	You know, he's pretty terrific.
	You know what?
	He at least knows how to fucking sell it.
	Some of these motherfuckers that are failing up have just failed the whole time.
	Like, they're not even...
	They're not even an asset that would be protected by an entertainment company because they aren't even that fucking valuable.
	Yeah.
	They don't even have the juice.
	They ain't getting cast in that movie!
	Yeah, yeah.
	They're boring losers and they're taking our money!
	Yeah.
	Oh dear.
	So now we get to Russell's grand thesis on the election.
	Russell's take on what happened and what's going to happen.
	And it's, shall we say, skewed in a particular direction.
	There's no question that to a degree this was a war between old media and new media and new media won.
	Like it or not, legacy media and old style Hollywood stars and musicians were lining up behind Kamala Harris and you could see right through her to them because there was so little there.
	But when it comes to new media, it was a done deal.
	We had Vance, Trump and Musk on Rogan in quick succession.
	And I think that that was significant.
	Now we are in a new media era.
	My concern would be as a sort of, I'm not American, you know, that countries like the UK are going to go all out attacking independent media figures.
	They're going to concoct whatever they can to bring down any independent voices that might be challenging.
	And Lord knows we have to challenge their voices.
	They're going to go full throttle now because they don't want anything like Trump happening in the UK.
	They don't want popular figures standing in political positions, supporting opposition, standing up against global corporatism.
	Remember, in the British leadership, in Keir Starmer in particular, you have a WEF leader.
	You have a stooge in office.
	You have someone who on day one, we're going to keep funding this war.
	We're going to keep funding this war.
	Tell me what else to do.
	Tell me what else to do, Klaus.
	They don't want to be brought down.
	These CIA carve-out politicians are terrified.
	Now, with these changes, there's going to be some genuine, serious opposition.
	And you can almost hear the sound of guts dropping all around the world as the potential for populism, which might not be like Trump's form of populism.
	That might be more like what's coming out of Bobby Kennedy or what came out of Sanders even, Jeremy Corbyn.
	Who knows?
	Who knows what inflections different nations may come up with to oppose globalism?
	But surely that's the thing they fear most.
	And that is why you can't trust legacy media.
	And that's why you can't trust any of the instruments of power that are utilized, have been utilized to try to stop the re-election of Donald Trump and will be similarly deployed against any opponent of their systems.
	"I...
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, I mentioned last week that Russell's file has been passed from the police over to the Crown Prosecution Service in the UK to try and determine whether charges will be pressed for Russell's sex crimes.
	And now, all of a sudden, he's really concerned about what's happening in the UK. And, oh, the UK are gonna do anything to try and shut down dissenting voices because they don't want a Trump situation over here.
	The subtext being, hey, if any wild shit comes out about me, they're just trying to take me down.
	Mm-hmm.
	I was on the fence about why he spent so much time in Florida, and I'm not anymore.
	Yeah!
	Yeah, you know what?
	He's not back in Britain, yeah?
	Fucking timestamp.
	Mark it.
	Listen forever, internet.
	He is banking on not being extradited, is what he's doing.
	Yep, Florida specifically, and especially with Trump in office now, you know, it's looking a lot safer for him over there.
	Yeah, and he's not back in Britain yet, so I'm keeping an eye.
	Yeah, I think that's the nail in the coffin for me.
	He wants to stay...
	He wants to make...
	He wants to stay free!
	That's what you do!
	Yeah, totally.
	He's trying it out.
	He already came over here to cover stuff and then went back to the UK and like, okay, so what can he do here in America?
	Okay, so can I still do the same show and keep my deal with Rumble and maybe even grow in Florida?
	Which I would...
	Caution.
	Don't listen, Russell, by the way.
	Oh, my God.
	Do what you're doing.
	But, like, go in the, like, meet cigars, gun holster route is not, like, you're going to get lost in the sauce.
	You ain't that fucking special.
	Don't let anybody convince you of that.
	You need to stick to your fucking wooey branding.
	Like, that's okay.
	I don't think that this is going to work that well.
	But it'll work if it keeps him from being extradited.
	Exactly.
	For his violent sex crimes.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And Ron DeSantis has been on the show, so we know there's a connection there.
	Trump definitely wouldn't, if it got escalated up the chain somehow, Trump wouldn't mind keeping him there.
	I was like, no, you're like me.
	You can stay.
	Oh, I mean, if it's inconvenient for someone, he will immediately be thrown away.
	That's true.
	That's true of anyone.
	I don't want – make no bones about it.
	This is not a party that – or certainly a camp that's going to protect you or anything if you become a liability.
	But he's trying to hedge his best and not be a liability so that he can still make his own money.
	Because that's really what it is.
	As long as he can contribute enough, as long as he can keep his bag secure overseas, which is, I've had to do it.
	I've had to work overseas and turn a profit.
	You don't know until you try.
	And that's what he's doing.
	He's making sure that he can continue his little fiefdom outside of the country that's going to try to prosecute him for sex crimes.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yep.
	Also, we already have populist right-wing figures over here, the most prominent of which being Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson.
	Like, he was a right-wing populist who was the fucking prime minister for four years.
	People literally called him the UK's Trump.
	Like...
	That is also why what Russell said is stupid.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Incredibly dumb.
	It's profoundly stupid.
	As for what he said at the top there, Russell's largest opinion on the election is that it was in fact a contest of old media versus new media and new media won.
	And he tweeted out the other day without a hint of irony, quote, one could argue that whoever manages information manages reality, unquote.
	As we've been saying for a while now, the alt-right media sphere has separated an entire populace of people out into a different reality to the rest of us, to the point where we can't agree on what consensus reality actually is.
	To many of us, vaccines are a life-saving medicine.
	To many of them, vaccines are a means of Bill Gates putting microchips in your body to keep track of you.
	But, yeah, it's interesting.
	Oh, incidentally, the top reply under that tweet was, quote, I only trust the Bible, my rifle, and check X2. Jesus is king, unquote.
	Good stuff.
	Good stuff.
	Well, the thing that bothers me, the thing that we should be afraid of, is, like, Russell is almost saying things that aren't wrong.
	And the closer you can get to saying things that are not wrong...
	And I've heard it, like, there's just one little piece of it that changes the whole meaning, right?
	Or even just the context changes the whole meaning of what he says.
	That's how you win new followers.
	That's how you win people that are on the fence or people that are, like, audience to be captured.
	Because, make no mistake, the way that, like, this kind of media landscape works when you're making content is, like, similar to how it's described in the Dream podcast.
	Like, MLMs is, like, you have a tub.
	That you've got a faucet that is pumping water into the tub and the drain is open.
	So there are also people leaving all the time.
	That's how metrics works.
	That's how ad revenue is adjusted for, right?
	You assume that you have to keep that faucet going at a steady stream faster than the drain is losing water to be able to make money and be sustainable as a content creator and That is profitable and can actually do what Russell is doing.
	So he needs to make sure that he can keep that faucet on and flowing so that he can keep making his money.
	So that's...
	Yeah.
	If you say things that are almost right, that sound like they make sense to someone that doesn't know what to listen for as far as dog whistles and red flags.
	And I've seen it.
	There have been statements made by Ricky Torres.
	It's a crazy thing.
	There was all these sentences or phrases that were like, oh yeah, that's right.
	And then at the very end, he said something completely crazy.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, my God.
	You meant the opposite of what you were saying, but the rest of it sounded exactly like some rational thought about politics that I have.
	The closer that these guys can get, and that's also why doing the stake in the guns thing, going further that way is a bad idea and why Russell should stay on the wellness track because these wellness influencers can get.
	Get away with bloody murder in a way that Steven Crowder never could.
	Because it's accessible to more people and there's so many opportunities for obfuscation and manipulation out there that Russell could potentially be cutting himself off to, which that's good.
	So don't listen to me and do not take my advice, please.
	But the closer he can get to saying things that are rational and reasonable and people want to hear, But then that little bit, and especially if you can just excuse that, oh, that little bit, like, oh, don't listen to that part, that completely changes the meaning of everything.
	It's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, don't worry about that.
	That's where the danger lies with these kind of people.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And now we move from the almost right to Russell briefly saying something that's definitely wrong.
	What has the Trump era really been about?
	Well, if you listen to legacy media, it's primarily about hatred.
	If you listen to Trump himself, it's about making America great again.
	But there's a general more vague sense around Trump, particularly now that Bobby Kennedy is part of the movement and particularly Even people like me who have nothing to do with your political system are commentating and thinking about how it might affect countries in Europe, like my own, the United Kingdom.
	What we're sensing is that people are sick and tired of globalism and that nationalism is a response to that.
	And it needn't be racist or exclusive.
	It could be one nation under God where we're all equal, equally valuable and have the right to pursue happiness, although we don't have a constitution in my country.
	Not yet.
	This clip made me think back to 2013, Russell.
	It made me think, you know, of Revolution Russell.
	You know, the reverence a lot of people gave to his political opinion, particularly on UK politics, you know, because that is the country he is from and, well, used to live in, question mark.
	Fast forward to 2024 and we found out the man doesn't even know that the UK has a constitution.
	I just...
	I despair.
	I despair at the level of ignorance this man has been able to hide for the last decade.
	I think he used to be better at it.
	Yeah.
	Better at hiding this ignorance, and I think that's what it was.
	And now he's just kind of letting it fly, and I'm like, oh!
	You don't know anything about anyone's political system, not just America.
	I could almost forgive, like, not knowing that much about American politics despite being, despite covering, because you're not from there.
	Okay, fine.
	I will give you some grace.
	But, like, having been a major political commentator in the UK for, like, years and not knowing the basics?
	I'm like, dude, this is staggering.
	It's genuinely staggering.
	Well, the fact that he used to know and now doesn't, I think speaks more to a liar than a forgetter or a not-knower.
	There is something that's like...
	And this is a balance we have to strike.
	And that's also why I try to choose my words that what he says is stupid.
	Russell is not stupid.
	Russell is saying what Russell knows Russell can say to make money.
	This is a shark who wants to keep moving...
	Who lives on money.
	And anything else is superfluous to him.
	Yeah, yeah.
	If it doesn't, like, it benefits him not to know.
	It benefits Joe Rogan not to know.
	If he pushes back on someone who says crazy shit on his show, it could be perceived as, like, being combative or not being nice or not giving everybody a chance to speak.
	And if he's just like, well, no, let's talk about it.
	That is, it seems nice.
	When it's not, you are serving up your own listeners and audience to predators if you just feign ignorance.
	And the more that ignorance feels real, the more genuine you are, and then you can sell your brand because you're coming off as genuine.
	Like what Dana White was saying is like, I just like somebody that tells it like it is.
	And if you if you get your brain to just throw away pertinent facts so quickly that you never know anything, people will like you because they think you sound nice and magnanimous.
	It's malicious ignorance.
	- Yeah. - You know, which, and like, it is, yeah, the stupid ignorant thing is an important distinction to make, there is a gulf of difference between being stupid and being ignorant.
	You know, not knowing stuff is very different to not being able to understand stuff.
	Russell is very capable of being able to understand stuff.
	But yeah, malicious ignorance, I think, is a good way to put it.
	Because, yeah, it definitely behooves them not to know it.
	Well, it's weaponized incompetence, and let me tell you.
	Men, fucking, gold, silver, and bronze.
	In all those categories, you get incompetent for your fucking country for sure, and that's exactly what he's doing.
	He can get away with it because no one's being like, I'm sorry, steak?
	What?
	Yep.
	No one's saying that.
	He's testing, like, he is the raptor testing the fences and the fences are off.
	They're not even giving him a little shock.
	They're off.
	So he's gonna do whatever he's gonna raptor.
	Raptor's gonna raptor.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so now we get to a clip of Trump's apparent plan to dismantle the deep state.
	Russell does play the 10-point plan in full and is broadly supportive of the fascism, including specifically saying how much he likes that Trump has said that he will wield his power aggressively.
	But this particular clip really struck me.
	Let's have a look at some more of Trump's dismantle the deep state rhetoric.
	Must have known.
	They do nothing about it.
	They're lied to.
	Fourth, to expose the hoaxes and abuses of power that have been tearing our country apart, we will establish a truth and reconciliation commission to declassify and publish all documents on deep state spying, censorship, and corruption.
	And there are plenty of them.
	Fifth, we will launch a major crackdown on government leakers who collude with the fake news to deliberately weave false narratives and to subvert.
	P223 says we need Bongino.
	There's got to be a job for Bongino.
	Anyone else from the Bongino army in the chat right now?
	Alex Jones, Press Secretary, Bongino head of the Secret Service.
	What kind of glorious new America are we awakening to?
	Donald Trump just said he's gonna crack down on government leakers, who, in the right context and following the right process, can otherwise be known as whistleblowers.
	Russell has spent the better part of the last decade being aggressively pro-Julian Assange and aggressively pro-Edward Snowden, He brings them up on a semi-weekly basis.
	He brought them up in this same show.
	Donald Trump just said he's going to crack down on government leakers and Russell doesn't even bat an eyelid.
	He ignores it and moves to talking shit about alt-right media figures getting potential positions in the Trump administration.
	Like, dude, the thing you're supposed to stand for the most is under attack and this is what you're doing.
	This is what's happening.
	Even listening to what Trump said, the first part of that clip was more government transparency.
	We'll expose, but then also, no whistleblowers.
	What?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Just listen to what they say!
	Just listen to them!
	They're saying it all out loud.
	Come on!
	Also, no Chelsea Manning in that little trifecta?
	Yeah, yeah, weird that, isn't it?
	Well, you know.
	Seldom brings her out.
	Just noted.
	Just saying.
	Yeah, yeah, the whole 10-point plan is honestly...
	Worrying.
	But all of this, it leads me to a broader point, which I don't think Russell has realised yet, which is that Trump winning is the worst thing that could have happened for Russell's show.
	His entire narrative, his entire mythology is based around being the victim, around him and the people he supports being constantly taken down and de-amplified by the government, by the deep state and by the legacy media.
	Russell specifically comes from a position of being, and regularly defines himself as being, anti-establishment, speaking truth to power.
	And he's about to spend the next four years sucking up to and kissing the arse of the establishment.
	I tell you what...
	And that list, that line is long.
	Yeah, it hasn't...
	That's...
	They didn't pay attention to what happened to Alex Jones.
	No!
	Ironically!
	Ironically!
	Dan and Jordan of Knowledge Fight are your strongest allies in your own fight and you can't even pull your head out of your ass long enough to figure that shit out.
	I bet Dan Bongino did.
	Straight up.
	I bet Dan...
	I am seeing his market share rise in places that I'm not looking.
	He's on the fucking radio.
	He is out there and he's the most effective at messaging that's like, oh, it's almost there.
	Well, most of what you said made perfect sense and...
	And then, oh, just that little bit?
	He's still good at messaging and getting better at it.
	He's adapting.
	That's dangerous.
	That's really dangerous.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The raptors have learned how to open the cage, right?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Oh, I'll tell you what, it's going to be interesting.
	The Raptors have all the money!
	The Raptors can hire people to open the cage for them!
	That's the point I'm fucking making!
	The Raptors don't even have to figure it out!
	The Raptors can hire an old, established, decades-old lobbying firm that are experts at opening cages!
	They don't even have to do it themselves!
	Mm-hmm.
	So if you're also smart, we're fucked.
	Yeah, that's not a good combination for us.
	I tell you what, though, come January, it is going to be interesting watching Russell have to contend with all of this being pro-establishment stuff.
	I'm going to have fun.
	I'm going to try and have as much fun with it as I can.
	Well, I'd imagine that he's gonna, like, he's gonna lean on the Christian.
	I mean, he already knows that there's, like, not a lot of gas in the tank for his new Christianity.
	So, like, that would be the other direction to go.
	And, like, you just gave up your best, like, he gave up all his, like, wild cards.
	You know, like, he doesn't have...
	Yeah.
	A handful of twos.
	Yeah.
	Three fours here.
	He's now, oh, I'm a meat-eating, truck-driving Christian.
	I'm like, oh, yeah, that's really rare in America.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	You're not going to win the pie.
	Yeah.
	Because also, yeah, guess who?
	Dan Bongino's going to eat your fucking lunch.
	Sorry, dude.
	Oh, yeah.
	You need to stick with supplements and you needed crystals and meditation and shit.
	That's also why he kept it on his fucking local channel.
	Yeah, like, if you think back to the power dynamic at the RNC when Bongino was on the couch with him, you're like, oh yeah, but Bongino's the big daddy in this room.
	Like, that's the situation here.
	I mean, just in general, obviously.
	But, like, that kind of...
	I mean, yeah, if Russell was smart, he would keep his, like, keep that foot in the wellness grifter area and then be able to pivot whenever he needs to because it's not gonna, this isn't gonna work.
	He's not, he's not D'Amongino.
	Yeah, and I'm not convinced the Christianity turn's gonna do him that well either.
	I mean, you know.
	Unless he really gets his cult shit working, which, like, frankly, Russell, get your shit together.
	Like, it still takes more work.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yes.
	No, it definitely does.
	It definitely does.
	I was trying to think who did Russell interview on Break Bread this week.
	Oh, Eric Metaxas.
	Do you know that guy?
	I know that name.
	I can't think of...
	Oh, people are yelling at me right now.
	And you're right.
	You're right.
	I know that name really well, but I can't think of who that is.
	He's authored a bunch of books and such.
	I think he was a writer on a TV show as well.
	I can't recall that.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, we've got one more clip.
	There's been a fair amount of bleak shit to look at today in the wake of the election and everything, and it's been a week.
	But Russell, at the end of Friday's show, played some of Joe Biden's speech from the Rose Garden on the day that the 2024 election was called.
	It was conciliatory and led from a place mostly of compassion, which then leads Russell to end things with a sentiment I largely agree with.
	The sentiment, that is.
	Yeah, amazing.
	Well, there you go.
	See, perhaps there is hope for all of us.
	Perhaps this is an opportunity for us to compassionately look at one another, as I can't believe I'm saying this, Joe Biden is suggesting, as members of the same human family, or in your case, fellow Americans.
	Maybe this is an opportunity for people that voted against Donald Trump to recognize the significance of the fact that in Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard, there's someone Further to the left than their preferred candidate on many significant issues.
	When I say left here, I mean anti-corporate, anti-commercial domination, anti-the domination of Pfizer, anti-war.
	And I know that no one is perfect.
	That's part of our condition and indeed why there does need to be a spiritual component to the undergirding of any political system if it's to have any real value.
	Because elsewise it is born of humankind, is born of the human mind.
	And once you've seen Joe Biden there talking quite sanguinely and nicely about the campaign and quite gently and reasonably, perhaps it is an opportunity for us to recognize that there is cause for hope in your country, America, and cause for hope across the world.
	And perhaps we could think for a moment what we each can do personally to create those conditions.
	I suppose if you are a liberal person and you see a truck, a good old ram, longhorn passing by with American flags and the word Trump emblazoned upon it, you can think there's a human just like me.
	And if you are a MAGA Trump supporter, as MSNBC would portray a sort of barbecuing, towel-gating, and you see someone with blue hair looking a little hurt about the way things have gone, you can recognize them too as a fellow American.
	And maybe we can, as is suggested in Scripture, judge not one another, but love each other with all of our hearts, as we Joe Biden seems to be suggesting.
	But that's just what I think.
	Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments.
	Let's start a poll.
	Okay.
	Who do you think is going to do that first?
	Do you think the Trump Trump guy?
	Do you think that that guy is going to feel merciful towards the blue haired twink?
	Do you think that's going to happen?
	I'm not putting my money on that.
	I'll put all my chips on me remembering and knowing that people with these Trump flags are human beings who don't deserve to be lied to regardless of anything else.
	They do not deserve to be lied to.
	They do not deserve to be manipulated and exploited.
	Yes, exactly.
	That's because I'm good.
	That's how I'm good.
	That's points for me.
	And it's not performative, you have to fucking feel it, or shut the fuck up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I will say, I don't think this is the narrative Russell would be spinning right now had Trump lost.
	He would most likely be sowing as much division as he has done for the last several years, but a broken clock is right twice a day, and in this case...
	The overall point of leading with compassion?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And yeah, not the shit about RFK Jr.
	and Tulsi Gabbard and the Christine Theocratic Sentiments.
	Those can all fuck off.
	But I do think one of the only things that's going to get us through the next four years is Herculean levels of compassionate, practical activism on an individual and community level.
	And it has to be led with compassion, because honestly, we've done everything else and none of that's fucking worked.
	But yeah, it does require honestly actually feeling the thing and working at it.
	It's not easy.
	It's definitely not easy.
	It takes a lot of practice.
	I mentioned on the stream, I definitely struggle in certain situations to keep that compassion.
	Yeah, it takes a lot of work and there are people that are smarter than you and know more than you that can help you and you don't need to bother them.
	They've already written or they've already spoken.
	Seek it out.
	If you care, seek it out.
	Compassion does not equal politeness, niceness, meekness or weakness, or being quiet or being sweet.
	and talk exactly how the fuck I'm talking right now.
	Because if I mean it, then I mean it.
	Compassion is a choice that we make within ourselves.
	And if you want, like, listen, I can adjust for my audience.
	I'm happy to do that.
	'Cause I don't wanna turn people off and I don't wanna hurt your feelings on purpose.
	That's a fucked up, not nice thing to, that's actually not nice.
	So not giving a shit, that's not what I'm saying.
	But compassion does not mean like someone being soft and kind and sweet with their words in the moment can seem compassionate.
	If you feel like you have to keep sweet and obey...
	To be compassionate, that's not what the fuck I'm talking about.
	Absolutely not.
	Compassion is choices that you make to recognize the humanity in other people in the fucking world around you.
	You treat people how you want to be treated.
	Period.
	Not even how you think you should be, because we all kind of hate ourselves sometimes, and that comes through.
	Just aim for the moon and you'll land in the stars as far as how you treat people.
	Because we're all going to fail and we're all going to misstep and we're all going to stumble and show up imperfectly and that doesn't fucking matter.
	Try anyway.
	Because how you treat other people is what's going to come back to you.
	Period.
	Yeah.
	And with what you said about Trump voters being lied to, like, yeah, I think that's one of the things that helps me stay compassionate is remembering, like, no, these people aren't stupid.
	They're not malicious.
	Like, they have been lied to.
	They've been...
	Well, well...
	They can be!
	Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Maybe they wouldn't be without the lies.
	Maybe they'd be perfectly fine without all the bullshit from Trump and from the alt-right media sphere, right?
	So, you know, just trying to keep that in mind.
	They're not stupid.
	They've been intentionally led down the garden path by people like Russell, by people like Dan Bongino, by Trump, right?
	Yep.
	Because it serves their interests.
	Well, yeah, consider how their behavior is incentivized.
	And also, if they're not getting pushback, so that guy, right, in the video that we watched, you know, kind of at the beginning at the polling station where that dude was filming himself being a massive asshole.
	Look how big a dick I am!
	Yeah, look how big of a total prick I am.
	Guys, guys, come here.
	Look, I'm so awful.
	That moment, like...
	Like, had no one pushed back on him at all, then he would have that much more of a reason to continue acting like that in the future.
	Someone, like, identifying the situation, showing up, and doing something, like, intervening in a way that may have been uncomfortable for her in the moment, but she knew she had to do it.
	When she knew that she was safe and nothing bad was going to happen to her because she had a position of authority and there are, like...
	There are rules.
	There are laws that was not...
	She made a decision.
	She assessed whether it was uncomfortable or whether it was danger.
	And discomfort is not enough if you are prepared to do the right thing.
	Discomfort does not equal danger or harm.
	Sorry.
	We need to be very clear about those two things and how they are different.
	But that also means that you know when to protect yourself because sometimes it can go the other way.
	We can think, oh, this is just discomfort.
	Oh, it could actually be harm.
	So know those things for yourself within yourself and it all takes practice.
	Now, what I wanted to say, this is absolutely – listen, this is America – Same country on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
	This is the world that we live in.
	This is the country that has been made for us.
	Anybody being shocked about this result?
	Okay, get with it.
	Listen, we're here.
	Ask questions and inform yourself.
	The 1619 Project has been warning you.
	There's plenty of resources to understand.
	Native people have been trying to warn us that this is the system, the colony that showed up here is fundamentally flawed and broken.
	I said this on the live stream, and this is something that I'm working on myself.
	Anybody that's surprised that this...
	I'm surprised that he got the popular vote.
	I think a lot of us, we can be surprised at that.
	But surprised at, like, this isn't America.
	This isn't my America.
	Well, then you've been living in a fucking bubble, and you need to get the net.
	You need to catch up to the rest of us that have been living in this for a long fucking time.
	Because a lot of the fight that I was going to have on Wednesday did not change regardless of the person that was going to be in the Oval Office.
	And that's just a fucking fact.
	So...
	There was something that really, like...
	Man, we elected Reagan twice, okay?
	This is what, like, there was a, you know, like, so we went out to a demonstration after the election, and a friend of mine posted a video, and someone who was, like, fully, I'm sure, like, Lib, Dem, Blue, whatever person, commented, like, because, you know, the caption was, like, this is what democracy looks like, and they said, like, democracy elected Trump.
	Yeah!
	That's what democracy looks like.
	Sometimes democracy doesn't do the thing you want.
	And that doesn't mean that all the democracy is bad because it didn't do the thing that you want.
	Not to say that our voting system is good or fair, necessarily.
	This is what...
	Make no mistake about the behavior that...
	America has been inflicting on the rest of the world.
	This tiny little baby, cranky teenager of a nation has spent any of its power corrupting and interfering with elections all over the world for decades.
	This is not a conspiracy in no uncertain terms.
	How dare us as Americans say the word boo about...
	About an election when our money, our resources, every single good thing that American citizens have to offer has been weaponized against other countries en masse.
	There's like 60 government...
	There's like a list.
	It's probably the fucking Wikipedia page.
	Elections Americans meddled in or completely took over.
	This is imperial blowback.
	Yeah.
	This is what this country fucking deserves.
	We had this coming because this is what we've been doing to other countries for decades.
	So if you want to talk about what's fair, this is what's fair.
	And that's also what this looks like.
	We've been doing this to other countries.
	It sucks!
	For perspective as well, I've watched the UK vote for the Conservatives, what was it, five successive elections across 14 years, you know, and like, that was democracy.
	That was.
	It fucking sucked, but that was democracy, you know?
	Like...
	So blame the people that fucked up.
	Blame the people who fucked up.
	Listen, is democracy dead or not?
	Because everyone that was involved in this campaign on the Democratic side that were screaming bloody murder had a hand in terrifying the women that we saw on that video.
	And now you're playing Xbox and you're hanging out and kicking it.
	Weirdly chill.
	Weirdly chill.
	Yeah.
	Maybe you're liars.
	If I were Joe Biden and I was a lame duck, listen, and I took it as their rhetoric, how seriously this election should have been taken, right?
	Like, if they believed it, and this is the exact same, like, we say the same thing about anti-choice Christians, right?
	If they really believed it was this dire, they'd act different.
	Mm-hmm.
	If Joe Biden and Kamala Harris really meant what they said and democracy was over, are you stra...
	And let's test this presidential immunity.
	Are you strapping up and going after Trump yourself?
	I was going to say, you've got drones.
	Make it an official act.
	See what happens.
	Yeah.
	That's what you do if you genuinely, if the rhetoric was consistent.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, right.
	So here's the thing.
	There's that gal, you know, that like, and I'm not trying to invalidate her feelings at all or her like pain, which is obvious.
	I think that internet violent threats are embarrassing because like, baby, you're in your house.
	Stop it.
	That's embarrassing.
	But like, if it made her feel better to say that in the moment, okay.
	Yeah.
	And that part, I'm like, okay, well, let's...
	I'm like, alright.
	I would recommend Save Your Energy.
	That's just me.
	But when she turned her attention to, if you lived in a state where it was close, or you didn't vote, fuck you.
	No, no, no.
	We're not doing that.
	We are not doing that today.
	If you would like to do that, I can show you the imaginary internet door.
	That's not helpful, and it's not healthy to even internalize that thought because you are playing into the hand of the manipulators, regardless of who you think they are.
	It is not helpful because...
	It was the Dems' race to lose, and they lost it.
	That's a fact.
	Rolling out the Cheneys?
	Dick Cheney is a synonym for the devil for anyone that has a memory and gives a shit in this country.
	Don't do that.
	There were a lot of obvious blunders.
	Right.
	So, instead, and this is my thing, okay?
	And this is something I'm, like, this is an idea that we talked about a little bit on the stream, and I mean with my whole fucking chest.
	Standing ten toes.
	Every dollar is a vote.
	Right.
	Every one of your...
	Like, you don't...
	Like, one vote every four years.
	All the sides that are acting like it is so...
	Like, it's an indictment on your character.
	That is also wrong.
	Lecturing people...
	Let's see.
	Okay, how has lecturing worked?
	Not good?
	Cool.
	How has shaming worked?
	Not good?
	Cool.
	Let's throw that shit away.
	We throw the shit away that doesn't work.
	And blaming people who are not to blame...
	Does not work.
	We need to direct our attention in the correct...
	We need to all look at the right place, the one place where we can direct our energy to fix the problem.
	Feel your feelings.
	That's fine.
	But when the dust settles, my vote has never meant more than one-sixth of a vote as somebody in Wyoming or whatever.
	The reality of the situation is that my vote is, in fact, a drop in the bucket.
	We still should do it.
	We still have to.
	I'm not saying not to do that, obviously.
	I hope that's obvious.
	So that being said, every fucking dollar you spend is a vote.
	Every bag of trash you put in the alley to get picked up is a vote for the world you want to live in.
	Every word you say, everything you do to another human being in real life or on the internet, you are responsible for.
	You are responsible for how you show up.
	It's your job to make sure you are making the world you want to live in, too.
	So if there's behaviors that you see and you're complaining around, well, Fucking three of those fingers are pointing back at you with the one that is pointing at somebody else.
	We got, like, do not worry about the splinter in his eye until you get the log out of your own.
	And that's, see, the Bible's got some good shit to say here and there, right?
	And that's one of them that is really fucking important.
	Every single choice you make can either be radical and revolutionary or not.
	Do not be an agent of the patriarchy.
	Do not be an agent of white supremacy.
	Do not, do not sail your fellow man up the fucking river so you can get one step ahead.
	There's also no agency without accountability.
	And that's the issue with the national vote once every four years is...
	We only have so much accountability in relation to how much agency we have.
	And one little grain of sand in a bucket, that's not a lot of agency.
	But if you are spending money...
	Listen.
	If someone...
	Is telling you, how dare you ruin this world with your vote?
	How dare you not care about climate change?
	How dare you not care about human rights?
	And they're addicted to buying shit on Sheehan, and they've got shit coming up every day.
	If you've got packages showing up at your house every day, and you don't even know what you're ordering, and it's plastic clothes that are going to go in the trash, and end up on the clogging up the beach of Argentina, As soon as you don't have to think about it anymore, I question your own responsibility and the realistic understanding of your accountability for how you show up in the world.
	Yeah, another good Bible one.
	Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, right?
	Sure.
	Well, I'm talking about practical.
	Look at where your money goes.
	If BDS didn't work, first of all, BDS does work.
	That's what ended apartheid in South Africa.
	BDS fucking works, and it doesn't just work.
	It won't just work for Israel.
	It applies to everything.
	Do not put one red fucking cent.
	Like, listen, like the most money you are ever going to give to anyone in your life.
	If you are renting, it's a landlord or like for your house, right?
	There are expenditures that like, if you have the option to go local, like if you have the option not to feed into a corporation, understand that like there are things like, yeah, you've got to pay to live.
	You've got to pay for the place to live.
	But if you have options that are not feeding the corporate beast, To anyone in your life.
	Take those steps.
	And it's really hard because it's hard for me because I don't want to stop thoughts, right?
	And thought-stopping statements that people want to win internet arguments with or shut people down, they're kind of the same arguments I'm making, but I don't want you to stop thinking.
	I want you to start thinking.
	Because if you feel like, well, I'm getting scolded by this person who doesn't know me, doesn't know my life, and is telling me not to buy shit.
	Now, I can't control you not hearing that.
	I hope that you don't.
	That's not what I mean.
	I'm saying every single dollar you are accountable for.
	So just know that and keep that in mind.
	And if you feel guilty or shameful, okay.
	Little bit of that is healthy.
	That's what makes you stop doing something that you don't want to do.
	If you're like, oh, I really shouldn't get Starbucks again because it's still on the list and I don't want to do that.
	Like, okay, don't.
	Maybe that kind of yucky feeling, that's correct.
	And you can find a different option.
	Changing behaviors, yeah, yeah.
	Right.
	And like, yeah, a lot of, I mean, the good place made this point better than I ever could is that like our world, like our globalist world is so interconnected that it's really difficult not to participate in some like pretty heinous shit.
	Like a sneakerhead telling me that they're worried about human rights.
	Get fucked.
	Sorry.
	Where are your shoes fucking made?
	You don't answer to me.
	You answer to Malaysia.
	You answer to the country that is on the tag of your garment or whatever.
	How?
	Man, I know that it sounds scoldy and instructive or whatever.
	I just want you to keep it in mind.
	That's all I want.
	I'm not using the grossest example because I gross out everybody in the chat, but you can fight it on our live stream.
	So I don't want to upset everybody again, but I also have never produced a plastic bottle ever one day in my whole fucking life.
	I definitely haven't profit off of it.
	So maybe I'm not the enemy.
	I'm also so happy to help with any question you have or resources for being able to separate yourself or not feel this burden of consumerism because that is also how our country has been built.
	And that's why it's so fragile because it's such a bad idea.
	We should not be consumer-driven.
	It's incredibly unstable.
	Yeah, unsustainable, one might say.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes, yes, yes, and...
	So don't come out and say fracking is tight and we're never going to stop.
	Yeah.
	Because maybe that'll make my stomach hurt when I vote for you.
	Yeah, that's not great.
	That's definitely...
	People are responsible for how they show up in the world and what they say and do.
	And that's across the board.
	Sorry.
	But also yay!
	Yes, also yay.
	Yeah, there are many ways to lose an election and that was one of them.
	Well, and there's also ways to win.
	The thing is, it's like...
	I don't feel it.
	I had my exhaustion moment, but also I know about this country real well.
	So I'm like, all right.
	We're dealing with this either way.
	There was no anti-war candidate on the ballot.
	Oh, no.
	That was a lie.
	So we have to be realistic, but revolutionary optimism is being driven by the hope and the vision of the future where human beings are liberated.
	What like universal liberation for humans means kill the cop in your fucking head.
	It's not serving you or anyone else.
	While maintaining your optimism not in hoop dreams or good vibes only or whatever, that is a false reality you will be creating for yourself.
	Grounded in science and in material reality.
	What we are capable of accomplishing is what we should be focused on.
	And the thing is, I've had to learn lessons that most of y'all haven't probably or have in some form about how little energy you can end up with if something bad happens to your health.
	And so if you have a fraction of a fraction of what human energy is supposed to be scientifically, then you Suddenly have to learn how to ration very, very, very closely.
	Your budget is small for your energy and it makes you very aware of what you can accomplish every day and how you show up in the world.
	So just watch your thoughts.
	Like watch how you show up in the world because you are who you act like.
	You are making the world you want to live in with your own behavior.
	And I don't want white men to be intimidated by the project of having to reach out to other white men.
	I want you to be encouraged because that is your agency.
	You're accountable, but you have agency.
	In a way, I straight up don't.
	I can call myself a frog that lives on the moon.
	It doesn't fucking matter.
	I am not going to get through to people that probably need to hear some of what I have to say.
	But if you can take what I am giving you and pass it along, I'm here to support you.
	That's what this is about.
	And I want you to succeed.
	I'm not here to set you up to fail.
	So I take it so seriously.
	And I hope that...
	You can't take yourself seriously.
	You can take your work seriously, right?
	Because if you take yourself seriously, it's very off-putting and annoying.
	So what we do is we show it for each other.
	If you want resources, I'll figure it out.
	Let me know.
	That's like a real thing.
	But also, I can only say it so many times, I've already given a lot of tools on this show.
	And I get that these episodes are long, so sometimes they kind of get lost in the sauce or at the end, you've already fallen asleep.
	And bless you.
	I'm amazed that I don't keep you awake.
	I get the dulcet tones of Al.
	That makes sense.
	Me?
	I don't know.
	Maybe I'm giving you nightmares.
	I don't know.
	But that should be the fucking point of showing up at all, is to give you tools to To make the improvements you want to see in the world.
	Why else the fuck are we here?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
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	Completely.
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	Also, okay, I do want to address that.
	If you see things going private, it's because they're trying to organize, regroup, and be able to show up safely.
	Yeah.
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	Yeah.
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	Right.
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	That's not win-win-win.
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