OB #60 - Donald Trump Jr
The Trump heir apparent, Don Jr, was interviewed by Russell at his home in Florida. Does he live up to his daddy? Support us on Patreon! - patreon.com/OnBrand Buy a magnet! - getsomeactualgoldhere
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This is propaganda live. | |
I only suggest how to take him out of the boat. | |
Extraordinary cultural moment. | |
Already iconic. | |
Already iconic. | |
We love you. | |
You're welcome here. | |
Where did this guy come from? | |
It's like he's been doing it for ages. | |
He's very confident. | |
Plainly, and this is a matter now of fact and record, I'm right wing. | |
I feel that Christ may have had a better vision. | |
Is this misinformation or is Vivek Ramaswamy in the lavatory? | |
That's sort of like a poem. | |
Is this Eminem? | |
Man, if we didn't come together in that stream, I'm assuming it was just the Pete. | |
Now these are the kind of conversations I think that the legacy media can no longer compete with. | |
Win win win win win win win This is On Brand, a podcast where we discuss the ideas and antics of one Russell Brand. | |
I'm Al Worth and each week I go through an episode of Brand Show with my co-host Lauren B. That's me! | |
I'm Lauren B and I'm the host that has no idea what we'll be getting into today but it's usually kind of bad. | |
It's almost invariably bad, which is why we do the good thing before the bad thing. | |
And normally I would ask you what your thing is first, but I'm going to go first this week. | |
And my good thing this week is I have been listening to the audio version of Serge Tankian's memoir. | |
He's the vocalist and, you know, one of the main songwriters of System of a Down. | |
And he's got his memoir out called Down with the System. | |
Which, you know, that tracks. | |
Okay, good. | |
And it's really great, really interesting. | |
And it starts out with talking about his grandfather in Armenia, in a portion of Armenia that is now Turkey, prior to the genocide and all of that stuff. | |
Really, really interesting. | |
I love Serge Tankian's work. | |
He's very consistent from a moral perspective as well, which I have long appreciated. | |
And very consistent when it comes to talking about genocides. | |
With good reason! | |
You know, I'm a big, big fan. | |
And I saw System of a Down, they did a tour for the 100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide, and I saw them on that tour. | |
And oh, it was emotional. | |
And so, yeah. | |
And they eventually then went and played Armenia. | |
And you can still find the footage of that gig. | |
It's incredible. | |
It was the first gig they ever did there. | |
Absolutely amazing. | |
But yeah, the book is really interesting. | |
And it's really nice to kind of have a venue to hear him kind of Elaborate more fully, um, on a lot of this stuff and his own kind of childhood and all of that kind of thing. | |
Um, cause you know, there's only so much you can ever get from like interviews and everything, right? | |
Oh yeah. | |
Yeah. | |
Also it's like about music. | |
Yeah. | |
Right. | |
Right. | |
Like not necessarily a personal experience. | |
You get kind of anecdotes and that's about it. | |
Yeah, exactly. | |
You know, and you get a little bit of the band inside scoop kind of stuff as well, you know, for, for the, for the music fans out there. | |
But, um, But yeah, just hearing his personal kind of interfacing with all of that is really interesting. | |
And he's very articulate as well. | |
So yeah, really, really, really cool. | |
Yeah, what is your good thing for the bad thing? | |
You know, I think I'm going to say Guys, the podcast about guys. | |
It's so great. | |
Any other flubheads out there, I see you. | |
We're here. | |
Matt Diamond being my favorite of the flubs. | |
Yeah, it's a really stupid. | |
There's like a whole ecosystem of kind of like, Not skewering, maybe casting an eye on the way how internet culture has melted. | |
There's a bunch of reading reviews, and just reviews, and Reddit, and forums, and just how unhinged people are when they speak to each other. | |
Like it's so far from like there's just this there's I make a pillow that says I'd give it | |
zero stars if actually. Oh no right here. Oh. | |
That is Lauren struggling. | |
This is 100% guys inspo, right here. | |
I'd give it zero stars if I could, because like... Oh, nice. | |
It's just, you know, the first guy that said that, that was like, oh, I can only give one star, I gotta click a star to make a review. | |
Gotcha! | |
And, like, maybe find something else to be mad at. | |
Yeah, that feels like a pivotal moment in society, doesn't it? | |
Like, that's when it all started going downhill, you know? | |
But, like, it's 2024. | |
Yeah. | |
We all know. | |
We know. | |
We weren't the first person to ever say this. | |
Things have declined sufficiently. | |
Yeah, and the way that, like... | |
It's just it's there's anyway there's an ecosystem there's like a your Kickstarter sucks there's minion death cults of weird one there's like but yeah there's a bunch of there's like a Quora you know people that just like troll Quora and there's there's I think there's like water to a beach to sandy is the review review one so there's like places where you can go to see people Really seem like they've never interacted with a human until that day. | |
I can believe that. | |
Yeah. | |
I've heard good things. | |
It's completely nuts. | |
I've heard good things about this podcast as well. | |
About guys? | |
That's great. | |
It's great. | |
They do a live stream sometimes on like Sundays we have and it's there have been a lot of inside jokes that have made it made their way into Into my home, which is just really... Now on Tuesdays, like, I can hear it whenever Mike's up, you know, getting ready for work and like, you know, it's become sort of a regular listen for us. | |
And it's also, like, kind of bite-sized, so it's easy to, you know, if he can't listen at work for a week, if they're doing something loud, which happens, you know, and then our listening doesn't sync up in the same way, or if he's like, if he or I are like, Way into a book and they're like, I haven't listened to anything this week. | |
I don't know. | |
I don't know what to talk about. | |
Um, that's one of those things that's really fun. | |
So I'm going to, oh my gosh, I love it. | |
It's hilarious. | |
Um, and yeah, that's, that's, that's my, like, it's one of those, um, it's been a good thing many, many weeks and I feel like it finally gets some credit. | |
They get some credit. | |
They're hilarious. | |
I'll have to check that out. | |
It's funny. | |
Kind. | |
Yeah. | |
Not the first time I've been recommended it. | |
Um, so yeah. | |
It's great. | |
It's great. | |
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Um, but yeah, we're going to be doing that second, uh, second Sunday of every month, I feel. | |
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So, Florida Week continues, though Russell is actually still there, or was as of Monday this week, so Florida Week may turn into Florida Week in a bit, or Florida Fortnite, I'm not entirely sure. | |
Small bit of news on the Russell front, he's going to be joining Tucker Carlson on his national tour of the US in September, so that's something for us all to look forward to. | |
All right. | |
Yeah. | |
September, huh? | |
Fun anniversary. | |
A little anniversary gift for Russell. | |
Great. | |
Yes, yeah, yeah. | |
I can't remember who Tucker's got on 9-11. | |
There was someone terrible for that day, I do recall. | |
Anyway, in the meantime, Russell has been hosting his show at Rumble Studios in Miami, I think it is. | |
Except for the interview that we're going to be covering today, and this one was shot on location at the guest's home, and you will see why in just a second. | |
Hello there, you Awakening Wonders. | |
Thank you for joining me for a very special live show. | |
Today, Stay Free with Russell Brand is streaming live from the home of Donald Trump Jr. | |
Thank you so much for joining us, sir. | |
Good to be here, good to be here. | |
For the first 15 minutes, we will be streaming widely, available everywhere. | |
Even with the constant obstacles to free speech, we will speak freely. | |
But after that first 15, we'll be exclusively available on Rumble, the joint home of both Dear Don and myself, you are a resident at Rumble like me. | |
I am, I am. | |
Listen, I think I was the second verified user on Rumble after Bongino. | |
Quite the achievement that is, I'm sure, being second fiddle to Dan Bongino. | |
Anyway, so yeah, Donald Trump Jr., the eldest of Donald Trump's children, is who we have on as the guest. | |
I think in most respects it's fair to say the apple does not fall far from the tree. | |
Man, I saw pictures from this and I was like, there's no way they're talking about, there's no way this is happening. | |
I just figured that was a photo op. | |
Maybe that was wishful thinking on my part. | |
Jiminy Christmas. | |
The only thing I can think of when I see this guy's face is the cover of his book and it's just his head above gigantic text that says triggered with fire behind it. | |
Yeah. | |
Yeah, man. | |
You sure are. | |
Every day. | |
Oh, wow. | |
OK. | |
Yeah. | |
You know what? | |
I don't hear him talk very much. | |
Well, I mean, probably more than your average person, but still like. | |
Now that I'm thinking about it, like, yeah, I guess there are clips, but it's always with some, like, it's in tandem with someone who's actually saying a thing that we should be concerned about, instead of just like kind of weird fluff. | |
Yeah, I had the same kind of realization. | |
I was like, I've never actually had to listen to the thoughts that this guy thinks before. | |
That's going to be interesting. | |
Though, bear in mind, even Donald Trump Senior thinks that his son is an idiot, so there is that. | |
He said that he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. | |
Dude, yeah! | |
Their hopes are on Baron. | |
There's two sons, right? | |
Son-in-law? | |
There were people that were in the government. | |
There's two sons. | |
Right? | |
I just, yeah. | |
Son-in-law? | |
Like, there were people that were in the government. | |
There's other family before Barrett to get to. | |
The thing for me, like, with that, hearing that from Donald Trump, is obviously that's | |
going to hurt him two ways. | |
I mean, firstly, thanks dad. | |
And then secondly, you've got Donald Trump calling you an idiot? | |
I mean, come on, that is akin to Rogan calling you an idiot. | |
That's very much the same kind of conversation. | |
I mean... | |
Maybe it's some kind of cold comfort that you know that your dad never means what he says. | |
So, like, you don't have to take him seriously. | |
Like, you're like, eh, well, he's a liar, so it doesn't matter. | |
He's just saying words. | |
Yeah, well, does it matter? | |
Yeah, maybe. | |
I think it's what the fundamentalist evangelicals would call a generational curse of desperately vying for the love of your father that is literally impossible to get. | |
It's the Trump way. | |
It is the Trump way of doing things. | |
And destroying the world to try and achieve it. | |
I'm still never getting there. | |
Yeah, I mean, yeah, right? | |
Or even just shady racist real estate deals. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
Any number of things. | |
Yeah, you can destroy lives, homes. | |
Sure. | |
Yeah. | |
Yeah, so Donald Trump Jr. | |
is just as much of a fraudster, grifter, and liar as his father, albeit with more of a penchant for conspiracy theories, I think, and seemingly a better work ethic. | |
Um, I wasn't entirely expecting to see his name come up on Russell's guest list, but as soon as I did, it did make complete sense. | |
I was like, oh yeah, these are two terrible peas in one aggressively privileged pot. | |
Naturally, yes. | |
Okay, this is, this does track. | |
Um, Russell spent the whole day with Don Jr. | |
and, uh, his partner Kim Guilfoyle. | |
Um, and, uh, Russell also spent an hour and a half on Don Jr.' 's Rumble Show, triggered with Donald Trump Jr. | |
Junior. He could say bye. | |
Triggered bye. | |
And then he could talk about people he triggered. | |
It would sound less like, bitch I'm triggered. | |
Instead, I'm triggered. | |
Yeah. | |
You get that for an hour and a half with these two. | |
Other guests on his show include people like Michael Savage, who's on there fairly often. | |
So it's a good show to go on. | |
Man, still kicking. | |
Still going. | |
Still crazy after all these years. | |
Oh yeah. | |
Go ahead, sir. | |
Okay. | |
The interview on Triggered was a bit of a snooze and very much focused around how Russell is the victim of all the allegations against him, and we've had enough of that. | |
And to be honest, I'm not sure we're going to need much more of these two after today. | |
So we'll leave that where it is. | |
I'd rather not. | |
The thing is, though, as far as comparing to his dad, Don Jr. | |
is so boring. | |
I feel the same way about religious stuff, right? | |
If they put me through all of the nonsense and inanity that I had to deal with as a kid, I'm going to enjoy as much religious art and terminology as I fucking want. | |
Y'all paid the toll, and I'm going to, and I will say fellowship, and I will make those, like, I get to use it. | |
It's mine, I get to use it now. | |
And the same thing, we were talking about it right before we started recording, is like, at least Trump is like, it can be funny now. | |
He's got charisma, you know? | |
Not so much, I mean, it's not funny now, but like, he's funny. | |
Yeah. | |
And we're laughing at, not with. | |
Yeah. | |
That's how I feel. | |
Like, it's, I'm not laughing with, I'm laughing at. | |
Yeah. | |
John Jr's, like, not funny. | |
There's something to be said where, like, if you're gonna bring all of this conversation, you need to bring the riz. | |
And Trump Sr has that. | |
No one can argue with that. | |
Whereas Jr, yeah, that's a Pretty much, you know, it's the same with David. | |
Riz Void. | |
Yeah, yeah, exactly. | |
And with religion, I'm like, you need to bring me James Brown and the Blues Brothers, otherwise I'm out. | |
You know, that's my situation. | |
I'm like, I need the most charismatic person ever, or you're done. | |
So that's a movie. | |
I know. | |
I don't know that religion did anything. | |
I wouldn't give religion credit for that. | |
No, no, I'm just saying that's the standard I hold. | |
If I'm going to go watch a preacher, then it needs to be that level or nothing. | |
That's it. | |
Oh, I got bad news. | |
There's a lot of preachers that are really good at it. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
But James Brown's good. | |
I mean, like, listen, he played with a lot of people. | |
Where do you think they go hang out? | |
They're kicking around. | |
They're doing it. | |
I'm saying like, if you're putting that contract out into the world. | |
Well, maybe not in the UK. | |
Maybe you're safe in the UK. | |
That's less of a problem. | |
Anyway, we'll be getting into some of the shenanigans that John Jr. | |
has been up to over the years a bit later, but for now, let's take a look at the first segment. | |
I apologize for any digital audio artifacts or anything like that. | |
It's purely on Russell's end. | |
It's all in his stuff because they streamed this live from Florida and it was a little bit impromptu. | |
Don, thank you very much for having a conversation that just a few short years ago would have seemed impossible. | |
We've only met once before at the Rumble launch in Sarasota. | |
And I remember then thinking, wow, I'm moving into a different environment now. | |
I'm having conversations with people from the Trump family, people from a different world. | |
In your case, an outdoor hunting, fishing person. | |
According to your Wikipedia page, as of today, you were still involved in a Russia gate hoax. | |
Yes. | |
In a way, this conversation couldn't have happened five years ago because I occupied an entirely different world. | |
It's a miracle that it can even still happen today to some degree because we live in such heavily censored and controlled spaces. | |
What do you think it means when people from different cultural pockets find themselves allying on the basis that now there is so much freedom, there is so much, excuse me, impediment to freedom, so much censorship, so much control, and so much to be afraid of when it comes to establishment authority, that new alliances simply have to be formed. | |
I think it's a great start. | |
You know, I think a lot of the forces that you're talking about in censorship and suppression, I think a lot of that's been going on probably for decades. | |
It was the extreme nature of the last few years, maybe the last eight years, that I think woke up a lot of people to exactly what was going on. | |
When we started speaking, I said, there's probably not a lot we would have agreed on politically or otherwise eight, ten years ago, and yet We're sort of in this same fight against these external forces that at this point, honestly, to me, scream, you know, just pure evil. | |
It's just total control. | |
There's nothing they won't do. | |
And, you know, as we talked this week, you said, you know, on my Wikipedia page, I don't check it because I think Wikipedia is literally the The basis that everyone else uses to to spread misinformation and create censorship in an artificial means. | |
But yeah, I'm still, you know, an agent of Russia, even though that's been totally disproven. | |
And even though a Hillary Clinton campaign pushed these lies and our three letter agencies blindly bought into that, then they leak the information to, you know, establishment media, in that case, the New York Times, which writes an article that they use as the basis for an investigation to try to destroy a presidency, which is As far as I'm concerned, an affront on democracy, but according to them, that's actually saving democracy somehow. | |
We don't know how, but they will tell us that ad nauseum. | |
Okay. | |
So, the first thing that struck me here is, of course, it's very convenient how Wikipedia is the basis of spreading misinformation, when in reality it seems to actually do a half-decent job of conveying just how much shady shit this guy's been up to. | |
The table of contents on his Wikipedia page includes attempts to overturn the 2020 election and fraud investigation. | |
Also, It has been argued that Wikipedia is the modern-day equivalent of the Library of Alexandria, and that that argument is not without merit. | |
Obviously, check sources where needed, and also check the edit notes on the pages for biases, but in general, Wikipedia holds up and is kind of a fantastic resource in most ways. | |
I live for a controversies tab. | |
Oh, I live for it. | |
Oh, boy. | |
When I see that controversies tab, I'm like, let me at it. | |
I shouldn't start here, but I might. | |
Yeah. | |
And as for Don Jr.' 's Russian involvement, I mean, he met with, engaged with, and assisted in Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. | |
It's very well documented. | |
And Jr. | |
here would like you to think that that's all been disproven, but Somewhat characteristically, he's lying. | |
It's old right there. | |
It should be on the family crest. | |
The snake in grass should be. | |
Pretty much, pretty much. | |
Yeah, it's the Trump way. | |
Yeah, just like, oh, okay, we're just doing what Russia wants now, okay, because it also serves us. | |
Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. | |
Yeah, very much plenty of broken laws and no consequences, so that's great. | |
So next we talk a little bit about, ding, ding, ding, immigration. | |
It's difficult to wrench your head out of the domestic environment that all of us inhabit. | |
I mean primarily culturally. | |
And for a moment consider that if we heard of a foreign country where a political opponent was being subject to criminal investigation while simultaneously having their previous policies plagiarised. | |
Policies which whilst in office Donald Trump was significantly condemned. | |
I'm talking about the travel ban and various attempts to curtail or otherwise control immigration. | |
While Donald Trump was in office, he was attacked by the same media now that are attempting to significantly amplify and support Biden's recent executive order when it comes to the border. | |
Now, you seem to be saying, Don, that that is both an inept policy rather than It's a lie. | |
It's just optics, right? | |
The Biden border policy is, you know, 4,000 guaranteed amnesty every day with all sorts of loopholes for additional people. | |
And just so we're clear, you know, Obama's homeland guy said 1,000 a day would be overwhelming. | |
So now we're at 4x plus all the loopholes. | |
So it's the optics. | |
They're appearing to do something. | |
But I'd ask, even if they're appearing to do something, maybe that's a start. | |
Why'd it take three and a half years? | |
Did we think there was any good to come from, I don't know, the human trafficking, the child sex trafficking, the fentanyl crisis that, you know, has killed, you know, kills, let's call it 100,000 Americans a year. | |
100,000, just so we understand what that is. | |
That's two Vietnams a year. | |
Two Vietnams a year. | |
Vietnam was, you know, ten plus year war. | |
Two a year, and we barely talk about it as a crisis. | |
I mean, that's where we are. | |
Where's the media talking about that? | |
Because, you know, they will make it seem like they're trying to do something, and it's all smoke and mirrors. | |
It's nonsense. | |
Yeah, no one's talking about fentanyl in the media whatsoever. | |
Okay, and government aren't saying or doing anything about it. | |
For the record, the opioid crisis in the U.S. | |
is significant enough to have made the news in the U.K. | |
several times, and that's saying something. | |
And also, for the record, border officials have seized more fentanyl at ports of entry in the last two years than the past five years combined, and Biden has allowed for the addition of 40 drug detection machines across ports of entry to disrupt fentanyl smuggling. | |
That said, the approach of dealing with the criminal component is one thing, but when you completely fucking ignore the concept of addiction being a health crisis rather than a crime, as well as ignoring systems of entrenched poverty that exacerbate drug use in the first place, you're never gonna actually be able to tackle the issue. | |
Professor Alexandra Punch, a public health expert at Syracuse University who focuses on drug policy, pointed to safe consumption or overdose prevention centres similar to those found in Canada, which she said have proven successful at decreasing mortality, decreasing HIV rates, and also decreasing drug-related crime in the vicinity of where they're located. | |
"What we're looking to solve is the mortality issue. I don't think we're going to solve the demand issue because people | |
are just going to find something different to use." | |
Fucking right! Exactly that. | |
I mean, you could handle the demand issue. | |
They won't. | |
Here's the thing. | |
With immigration, I'm livid at everyone. | |
I'm fucking furious at everyone. | |
And I get Project 2025 has a lot of insidious bullshit in it that is threatening to be implemented if Trump is elected. | |
But this is actually the same. | |
This is actually the exact same thing from either side. | |
On the immigration point, it's 2,500, not 4,000 a day. | |
For anyone who missed it, Biden passed an executive order to shut down the US border if illegal crossings reach an average of 2,500 migrants a day in a given week. | |
anyone entering after that point without having been processed, even those seeking asylum, | |
will be swiftly rounded up and thrown out of the country. | |
And yeah, I don't know why Don Jr. is so mad about the policy when by all accounts Biden | |
is pretty much as shitty as Trump was to immigrants. So yeah. Yeah. And as far as the | |
flimsiness goes, like the order ended up being blocked by the courts. So in that regard, | |
yeah, it is an optics move because it will be overturned. | |
Hopefully, hopefully. | |
Hopefully. | |
But God, the optics are fucking horrible. | |
Like, I just, it's, it's, yeah, why, I was thinking about that, like, and I'm, I mean, I'm not glad this came up, but I am glad this came up and that, like, we talked about, you know, Dave Rubin and whenever y'all heard the episode, There had already been more news about, you know, the Biden administration's approach to the identical policy under Trump. | |
But it was right before, like, when we recorded, it still wasn't exactly, like, ironed out. | |
It was one of those things. | |
It was one of those things. | |
So, like, we could have said even further, like, taken it even further, like, Rubin, You won. | |
Shut up. | |
Yeah. | |
Shut up. | |
Enjoy your mayonnaise melting pot, buddy. | |
Well, and the difference between, again, legal and illegal entry. | |
Yeah. | |
This isn't what we, oh my god. | |
Oh my god. | |
Yeah, it's fucking abysmal. | |
There's no There's no sane policy on it anywhere near the US government. | |
There just isn't. | |
And yeah, I don't know when or if that's ever going to occur. | |
It's fucking tragic. | |
It's awful. | |
It's terrible. | |
Now, Russell wants to talk Kafka again. | |
The kind of terror and dread that I get from reading Franz Kafka in books like The Trial, where there's this new invisible, cruel bureaucracy that tells you that it's helping you, tells you that it cares about you, won't give you details or facts about where power actually lies, uses really kind language, all the while inhibiting your freedom, turning people against one another. | |
I recognise now that's a much bigger threat to freedom than even the worst The portrayal of the MAGA movement and Donald Trump, that frightens me more at this point. | |
It should. | |
I mean, listen, we've been hearing people screaming about fascism for eight years, nine years, and yet look at the actions of those people. | |
They are the ones literally trying to jail their political opponents. | |
They are the ones who, you know, gave a total pass to, you know, the very peaceful protesters of the 2020 Summer of Love who happened to burn down major cities in America, billions in damage, people actually murdered. | |
Uh, you juxtapose that to, you know, January 6th, you know, which as far as they're concerned was, you know, the greatest insurrection in the history of insurrections also happened to be the first unarmed insurrection in the history of the world. | |
They were armed! | |
And yet they utilized that narrative. | |
Over and over again, right? | |
They create a narrative, you see the soundbites, you see every aspect in mainstream media picking up on every talking point. | |
It's always the same. | |
You put in the three words and it becomes gospel, right? | |
Now, as of this week, it was, you know, convicted felon, like, you know, without looking at the details of this case, right? | |
Convicted felon is the new one. | |
Joe Biden can't run on anything, so he's running against a convicted felon. | |
How can you allow that? | |
He was convicted of felony in court! | |
All of the corruption of his family, all of the corruption and, you know, illegalities that his son has done. | |
I mean, you know, you compare me online, you know, to Hunter Biden, and I am the devil, and he is, you know, someone who simply suffers from addiction, not is just a total piece of garbage, has sold out our country. | |
You know, I get it. | |
I am not the upstanding citizen that he is, according to CNN, but the reality is that doesn't jive if people get below the surface. | |
Just the narrative that they're spoon-fed. | |
So, all the news outlets say more or less the same thing, almost like they're covering the same piece of factual news, that Daddy Dearest is a convicted felon, and there are only so many ways to say that, you know? | |
It's pretty much the one way to say that. | |
Yeah, he got convicted of those felonies. | |
Of those felonies he did, yes, yes, exactly. | |
Yeah. | |
Also, it is a little bit weird that the party of Lock Her Up does suddenly take issue with the concept of jailing political opponents for their crimes. | |
It does feel, huh, strange. | |
Bit of a double standard. | |
I mean, that's the thing. | |
That's what we just heard, is like, you have to throw every piece of reality out. | |
They're being consistent in their world. | |
In their mind palace, they're being entirely consistent. | |
Yes, because it's not based in reality at all. | |
Yes. | |
I've tried to cut out as much of the Hunter Biden laptop bullshit as I can because it's nonsensical and I refuse to engage with it unless I have to, but suffice to say Don Jr. | |
is a monster and Hunter Biden doesn't seem that great either. | |
Honestly, fuck them both and their dads. | |
That's kind of where I stand. | |
Yeah, I mean, genuinely, like, what he just said was really, like, you know, because analysis is around, that I finally have kind of like, because, so Hunter Biden is also going to be on trial. | |
Like, they've gotten it, they've gotten what they wanted. | |
And in the trial, potentially, hopefully, Through the like evidentiary discovery process, we'll actually find out because like in the paperwork so far for the trial, because I want to see a physical fucking goddamn Dell or something. | |
Supposedly the laptop has been entered into evidence. | |
I want to see a Chromebook. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
Jesus Christ. | |
The FBI have entered it into evidence, supposedly. | |
Well, they've entered something into evidence. | |
They've entered a hard drive into evidence. | |
They have not proven that it came from, like, so far there is evidence that is a hard drive, but getting it from They have not proven where that thing came from. | |
So far as I saw, everything was still linked to his Apple account and they verified that with Apple, I think. | |
So they've got something! | |
I don't know. | |
I don't know whether it's going to be what they say. | |
Well, access to his accounts, I don't think that we can argue. | |
Like, somebody had that, for sure. | |
But where that thing came from? | |
Like, that's the thing. | |
Anybody can put information onto a hard drive and say, we got it from here. | |
I want to see that. | |
And hopefully, just for my own fucking sanity, I want to hear it. | |
I want to hear the argument. | |
I want y'all to say where you think it came from and how it happened and not the blind guy that gave it to Rudy Giuliani. | |
Or not like the guy with the computer store that doesn't know if it was Hunter because he can't see. | |
I need something else. | |
Yeah, something that is seemingly based in reality would be great. | |
Just to be able to actually understand what the fuck is going on would be tremendous. | |
I'm with you on that. | |
It's also ugly. | |
I would extend the same sympathy, genuinely, to Don Jr. | |
Maybe. | |
Maybe Schadenfreude would kick in a little bit. | |
No, they're different. | |
Hunter Biden has got stuff going on. | |
In this room that I'm looking at right now with Russell and Don Jr., if Russell meant what he said about recovery and addiction and the $500 courses that he charges that you can get for free at the local community center, Russell would not sign on to what, like, if everybody was actually being honest and everyone was informed of the facts, which they should be, they're recording what they say about it and putting it on the internet, then Russell should be giving some grace and should not sign on with what Don Jr. | |
basically just described if Russell were morally consistent. | |
You would think. | |
You would think. | |
Big asterisk. | |
Whenever the laptop comes up, Russell does cover it, so yeah. | |
Not overly convinced there. | |
As for the Black Lives Matter protests being compared to Jan 6th, this is fairly old hat, conceptually speaking. | |
We dealt with Ron DeSantis making the same nonsensical point a year ago, But I will say Junior here does have a bit more of a vested interest than usual in presenting Jan 6 as a peaceful occurrence, given that Junior gave a speech on the day itself and afterwards the prosecution were openly musing about whether to charge him with inciting the attack on the Capitol. | |
Specifically, he said that day to the crowd, directed at GOP lawmakers, quote, if you're going to be the zero and not the hero, we're coming for you, unquote. | |
And shortly after, they came for those lawmakers. | |
Seems like a bit of a cause and effect there, but I'm not a lawyer. | |
Sure does. | |
Sure does. | |
Such a bummer our speech is so not free that you can't argue that you're allowed to say that in America, man. | |
Really cracking down on that free speech. | |
Oh yeah, free speech is so, you know, they're saying this to their millions of subscribers collectively. | |
Oh, and he did say that there were actual murders during the Black Lives Matter protests, and this is true, but overwhelmingly they were right-wing shitheads driving through or shooting the Black Lives Matter protesters. | |
Yeah. | |
Then again, Junior should know this, because right after Carl Rittenhouse was somehow found not guilty after murdering protesters in cold blood, guess whose podcast he went on? | |
He went on Triggered with Don Jr. | |
and they collectively came to the conclusion that Soros was funding the opposition council somehow. | |
So that was good. | |
Well, then he needs a refund because I feel like if Soros was... I feel like it would have gone differently if there was like the mythical ball of Soros money behind it. | |
Yeah, true. | |
It's funny. | |
It's funny how that keeps happening. | |
You know, all these Soros funded things just never seem to actually succeed. | |
I thought he was a big bad and big scary and could do everything. | |
Okay. | |
Okay. | |
Seems inconsistent. | |
And where's Kyle's funding coming from, by the way? | |
We don't want to talk about that. | |
Okay, fine. | |
Now we move on to a little bit of COVID talk. | |
Do you see the true power of America being transcendent of even your most obvious enemies, the Democrat Party, and involving forces like the three-letter agencies? | |
But do you see it as being transcendent of not only America's interests, but America even as a nation? | |
Oh, 100%. | |
I mean, I think it's so broken, and I think that globalist mindset has taken such control of even America. | |
You know, I saw that on us. | |
We, you know, we talked about, you know, still being an active collusionist with Russia and me. | |
And, you know, at the time when that was going on, and I'd say it's safe to say I was the number two target after my father of Russia, Russia, Russia, of the hoax. | |
Because you did it! | |
But at the time I'm saying, well, I mean, the FBI said this, Rob. | |
There's got to be something. | |
Like, I wanted to believe That, as a patriotic American, everything I had sort of grown up thinking about my country was real. | |
That it wasn't, you know, smoke and mirrors. | |
But it's actually all bullshit. | |
Back then, I was fighting to preserve what I thought was real. | |
The reality is, that is gone, and we're fighting to actually make that reality exist. | |
Because it does not exist. | |
Uh, right now in these things. | |
You saw that across the board. | |
You saw it, you know, this week with the Fauci trials. | |
It makes that relevant again. | |
I mean, I remember as someone who is not a virologist saying, like, of course, of course the Wuhan virus started in the lab that studies the exact virus in question at the place that was ground zero. | |
Like, no, no, no. | |
It started from four feet outside of that lab, Russell. | |
But magically, magically, and You know, you don't have to be a virologist to say, of course, that's the most plausible place for it to start. | |
But if you were a virologist, if you were in academia, if you had research grants, if you said that, you'd be canceled. | |
Your government funding would be pulled by Fauci because they were clearly trying to control a narrative. | |
And, you know, that goes forward in each and every one of these things that we see. | |
You know, it's not limited to that. | |
They get what they want out of that weaponization at the time. | |
And, you know, two, three, four years later, when the truth actually comes out, there's no accountability. | |
There's no mea culpa. | |
No one gets sent to prison. | |
They ruined businesses. | |
They destroyed lives. | |
They did that under the auspices of science, and yet there was no actual science there. | |
And we knew that even at the time, because we saw the Fauci emails to his colleagues. | |
Yes. | |
It did not jive. | |
You know, when he was talking to doctors, it did not jive with what he was telling the American public each and every day when he was living his 15 minutes as a, you know, celebutant, you know, rock star on television because he never met a camera he didn't love. | |
Now, Junior, I have to say something about living in glass houses and not throwing stones here in regards to you, Russell, and your dad. | |
The pots and kettles are all pretty fucking blackened by this stage, right? | |
Everything he said is opposite day! | |
It's wrong! | |
All of it's wrong! | |
That's amazing! | |
Every single fucking thing! | |
That's fucking incredible! | |
Okay. | |
Alright. | |
So here we've got some classic Chinese virus talk, which is also one of Russell's favorite talking points. | |
And you know, we've covered just how harmful that's been to the Chinese population worldwide, but it does bear mentioning again. | |
Chinese, or just Asian-looking individuals, have been beaten, some killed, and have had their businesses destroyed because of the notion that the Chinese government created COVID-19 in a lab. | |
There is still no evidence to support this theory, and the WHO considers it extremely unlikely, despite what may appear to be conventional wisdom that, oh, there was a lab working on coronaviruses in the same area. | |
Except, you know what else was in the same area? | |
Bats. | |
With coronaviruses. | |
Those bats had coronaviruses with a 94% similarity to COVID-19. | |
Coronaviruses mutate and develop as time goes on. | |
The scientists, the people who know things, are pretty sure about this one. | |
And not for nothing, but Australian virologist Danielle Anderson, who was the last foreign scientist to visit the WIV before the pandemic, said the lab worked in the same way as any other high containment lab, and she also said it had strict safety protocols. | |
So, there's that. | |
Yeah, I mean, come on. | |
But also, seriously, if you think that the US government partnership was a CIA plant and they made this virus, or it got away, whatever, shouldn't you be extra scared of it? | |
Shouldn't you be especially terrified? | |
There will only be lone survivors? | |
It's over for humanity? | |
Yeah, not, oh, it's basically the flu. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
Again, wildly inconsistent. | |
Yeah, it's like a flu, which means it mutates constantly and it's impossible to make a vaccine, yeah. | |
And kills people. | |
Yeah, and it's very dangerous. | |
Also that! | |
Jesus! | |
Yeah, COVID has four times the death rate of the regular flu, so there we are. | |
Can't wait till the next one. | |
Yeah, right. | |
The emails that Junyu was referring to in this clip are of course the ones from February | |
2020 between Fauci and his colleagues discussing the potential origins of COVID-19. | |
We knew basically nothing at this time and the Chinese government were not exactly forthcoming | |
with their information. | |
So there was speculation among the scientists amounting to as much as a 50/50 bet that COVID-19 | |
was either zoonotic or originated in a lab. | |
Obviously, we then got more information and those same scientists are no longer making those same kinds of statements because they have more information and that's how that works. | |
No one I'm aware of was cancelled by Fauci, as if he ever held such power in the first place. | |
But there was funding cancelled by the NIH, but not by Fauci. | |
When Donald Trump was still president and asserting that COVID-19 was manufactured in a Chinese lab, he also decided to pull all funding to the study of how coronaviruses moved from bats to humans. | |
Bear in mind this study was already supposed to be funded and had already been approved for five years. | |
They then reinstated it with a bunch of bogus conditions for it being reinstated, such as the group must arrange for an outside inspection of WIV and its records with specific attention to addressing the question of whether WIV staff had SARS-CoV-2 in their possession prior to December 2019. | |
An outside inspection saying, did you make it in this lab? | |
And the non-profit must explain purported restrictions at WIV including diminished cell phone traffic in October 2019 and the evidence that there may have been roadblocks surrounding the facility from October 14th to 19th 2019. | |
Just forgive the pun, but bat shit. | |
And if these insane conditions were not met, no more funding for the study. | |
Bear in mind as well, this was taking place in April 2020, a time when researching how coronaviruses move from bats to humans might have been pretty kind of important. | |
But no, it instead had to turn into a conspiracy theory-fueled witch hunt acting as a very real impediment to progress, which may have cost lives, I don't know. | |
And also Trump disbanded the pandemic team. | |
We had a pandemic team. | |
Yeah, he was great. | |
There was a framework that was cut. | |
In addition to cutting that funding. | |
Just across the board terrible. | |
It's not Fauci pulling people's funding, it's Trump doing it! | |
Right. | |
Yes, exactly that. | |
Yes. | |
Now we get to the gods of the left. | |
Can we say, wait, wait, wait, one more thing. | |
Because whenever he said ruined businesses, that's what he said up top. | |
The PPP loans are estimated to be the largest fraud committed by business owners ever in the history of America, which is saying Quite a bit. | |
And is all of these resources that could be going to getting fraudulent claims of PPP loans that were forgiven. | |
Can't do it with student debt. | |
Oh, but you can do it for a business, like you could do it for Stephen Crowder who wants to pay himself. | |
Yeah. | |
You can do that. | |
So ruined which businesses, sir? | |
Yeah. | |
Ruined which businesses? | |
Yeah. | |
Absolutely. | |
And yeah, it is awfully telling when the first thing he says is ruined businesses. | |
You know, not lives, you know, not any of that. | |
Businesses. | |
Also that. | |
Yeah, people are like, listen, I'm watching businesses drop like flies. | |
Yeah. | |
And it's because the PPP loans were fucking stolen and didn't go to people that needed it. | |
Like, it's just it's it's this fucking like, it's just. | |
Everything he said! | |
Everything he said was completely... It was opposite day. | |
Yeah. | |
Yeah. | |
Girl, come on. | |
Pretty much. | |
Geez. | |
Yep. | |
Alright. | |
So now we do get to the gods of the left. | |
And that's the problem with our system. | |
We encourage and allow the best bureaucrats to succeed. | |
The people who are the most vicious in the PR game. | |
Fauci was never the best doctor. | |
He's been wrong about everything since the 1980s. | |
But if you said, during the pandemic, if you said anything about that guy, You were out. | |
How was he wrong since the 80s? | |
He was the left's deity for a two-year period. | |
He was a god. | |
They don't believe in actual god, so they create their own, right? | |
They have Greta Thunberg as the high priestess of climate change. | |
They go to Fauci as the lord of COVID. | |
George Floyd for a shorter period of time, but that was a temporary deity of the left for a while, and today that's dominated by Vladimir Zelensky. | |
You know, leading one of the most corrupt nations in the world, who we will blindly send trillions of dollars to for an end result that has not yet actually been articulated to me, and I do this kind of at this point for a living. | |
They just blindly follow these things, that we must believe the gospel and we must believe everything is above board. | |
But I think they've overplayed their hand in each and every one of these instances so much that rational people, people with an IQ above like seven, They're actually questioning these things now, and I think that's the biggest thing for us. | |
We have to question all of these things. | |
Okay. | |
We'll leave aside the fact that it's been pretty well demonstrated that those in support of Trump tend to be either dum-dums or political opportunists, or just plain old bigots. | |
People supporting Fauci or Greta Thunberg or Zolensky, or being outraged at the murder of George Floyd, not lionizing the man, just the thing that happened, are all perfectly reasonable causes to get behind by any metric. | |
And so I've little interest in being forced into a position of defending them, especially not to this chucklehead. | |
Where I do take issue, however, is this notion that, ah, the godless left must have those other figures as gods when these people treat Donald Trump like a literal god-king. | |
And that's leaving aside the fact that, you know, Democrats in America are overwhelmingly religious. | |
That is statistically definitely proven. | |
That is the case. | |
But, I mean, You've been mentioning the important thought experiment about Biden's actions lately, saying, hey, if Trump did this, would you be mad about it, right? | |
Which is a handy barometer, and I would like to apply it in the reverse. | |
Imagine that Joe Biden had done any of the things that Donald Trump has done, let alone be convicted of 34 crimes in a court of law. | |
They would be foaming at the mouth to have him imprisoned for life or probably just lynched on the White House lawn. | |
Meanwhile, Donald Trump is their god, he becomes a convicted felon, and their support of him just doubles down. | |
Like, he's received crazy amounts of funding post-conviction. | |
In the 24 hours after the verdict, the Trump campaign received $53 million. | |
In 24 hours. | |
Whereas if it were Biden, he'd probably have been burned at the stake by now. | |
What? | |
Talk to me about gods? | |
Neither of them have funding problems, necessarily. | |
Very true. | |
That's a discussion for another day. | |
Yeah. | |
But yeah, what? | |
I mean, it's genuinely, like, listening to him, it's like, if you change a couple of words, you are telling on yourself completely. | |
And they also are, they can't get to Joe Biden, so they are targeting Hunter Biden. | |
Like, I recently, like, you know, I listened to a couple of different breakdowns of it, Um, not that many. | |
It's not that complicated, actually. | |
Um, basically, like, Hunter Biden is being brought up on charges that would, that, like, have no, well, very little, or actually, very little to none, because I'm paraphrasing someone else's research, um, precedent as far as, like, that charge. | |
It's usually a charge, like, the, the, like, illegal gun possession charge is usually in, Addition to a greater charge. | |
And it's a paperwork issue that they are taking to court. | |
The plea bargain was, that was weird. | |
Could have pled out, didn't. | |
Rare to never prosecution for the specific crime, which I think the argument canon has been made that, you know, what Trump was taken to court for in this first of several many cases was like, was something that, you know, people get away with all the time. | |
None of that is a reason. | |
To not prosecute a crime. | |
Yeah. | |
That's the threat that on our side, which like, on our side, as far as the left and even liberals and whatever, right? | |
So like, kind of everyone that's not in the Don Jr. | |
camp specifically is like, yeah, prosecute all of them. | |
Let's party. | |
Yes. | |
If that happened, let's go. | |
But genuinely, even, like, there is no real precedent for Hunter Biden being, like, basically, he checked, like, he said that he checked the wrong drugs box on a form when, but then he didn't have both forms of ID. | |
So the owner of the gun store later added a different form of ID. | |
Post application which is also a paperwork issue it's as bad arguably worse because you're you're responsible for the just the thin string holding together any amount of gun control and like you that's like a that's a professional kind of That's a professional problem. | |
It could potentially be much worse, but that guy gets immunity in order to testify against Hunter Biden, who did the form wrong once, had the gun for 11 days, and then Holly Hunter got rid of it. | |
Versus consistently, like, forging paperwork in your business, but you get immunity. | |
So it's like, that's the thing they're taking him to court for? | |
And sure, okay, but it's not, there's, it's... | |
It's actually really different. | |
The disparity is actually really different. | |
But also both defendants are this nonviolent offenses and it's first time, you know, like first time offenders. | |
So for like these kind of clerical crimes, essentially, you're not going to get a lot out of it and definitely not what they're accusing this person of. | |
Oh, it's just like it's it's it is very different. | |
And it's I just, I can't keep y'all here all day counteracting all the stuff he's saying. | |
We can't, obviously we have to pick and choose. | |
I'm gonna try to fucking rein it in. | |
But it's just ridiculous. | |
Yeah, it is absurd. | |
And the, yeah, the Hunter Biden situation does have much more of a feeling of a bit of a witch hunt, compared to compared to Trump's trial, which which There was more substantive kind of issues, shall we say, I think. | |
And far more consequential. | |
Yeah, far more consequential. | |
And also, you know, Hunter Biden doesn't want to be president at this particular moment in time. | |
That's what I'm saying. | |
So, you know, there's bigger issues. | |
It's apples and oranges, as a matter of fact. | |
Yeah. | |
But despite these very consequential things, Donald Trump is these people's god. | |
He can do no wrong. | |
He can do or say nothing wrong. | |
With the tiniest asterisk in the world of vaccines, and that's it. | |
That's their one thing that they have. | |
Some of them are really bad about that, though. | |
Now, from here, there is an ad break, and then when we come back, Don Jr. | |
tells us why he likes Rumble. | |
You may have been able to hear us because we are using very up-to-the-up-to-the-very-moment technology, aren't we, Jon? | |
Yes, yes. | |
We just got this technology to do this about an hour ago, so we're just do it live. | |
Who cares? | |
We have no idea in the words of Bill O'Reilly. | |
F it. | |
No, we can just swear. | |
Fuck it. | |
Let's do it live. | |
We can say that. | |
That's what I like about Rumble because I can actually... | |
Can be who you are. | |
Yeah, like, well, you know, I sort of, I grew up on construction sites, right? | |
It was a little, you know, it was a little different. | |
No, you didn't. | |
I understand I totally come from a privileged place. | |
I understand I'm a son of a billionaire from New York, but my father was a little different with the way he pushed us from that world. | |
You were on sites when he had construction projects in New York. | |
Those were my first jobs, right? | |
I always joke, I'm the only son of a billionaire, with my brother I guess, who can drive a D10 Caterpillar bulldozer. | |
Can you? | |
Because we actually did those things. | |
He made us, if you're going to build a building, you better know how to dig a foundation. | |
Watching someone do it and actually spending a summer doing these things yourself are two very different things. | |
And I think to sort of where we left before the break, that's perhaps how Trump had an understanding of real people in America, right? | |
It wasn't just a guy that sat in a gilded office. | |
He did that too. | |
But he got down on the ground being a builder, not just a tech guy where you're sitting at a computer all day. | |
He's not a tech guy. | |
He's a grifter. | |
Cite your fucking sources. | |
Is Don Jr. | |
really trying to tell me that his dad's tiny manicured hands were ever involved in actually building any of the shit that he owns? | |
Like, I know Fred Trump made sure that Donald was supposedly versed in every area of the business or whatever, but I do not think that involved ever physically doing any actual work. | |
And I demand to see evidence to the contrary if that's the road that we're gonna go down. | |
Yeah, absolutely not. | |
If anything, yeah, if I were Don Jr., if I were a rich little shithead, you best believe, I mean, it'd be Michael Scott on the forklift is what it would be. | |
It would be like, yeah, I guess if you want to get your CDL so you can dick around when you're all tooted up. | |
I mean, We all love a backhoe. | |
Like, that's fine. | |
Yeah, true. | |
Yeah. | |
But if someone has paid to clean up your mess, you're not working on a job site. | |
Yeah, you're dicking around on a job site is what you're doing. | |
You're dicking around. | |
I can believe it. | |
I hope he didn't. | |
I can believe it a little better. | |
Like, it does make sense to me that Donald Senior would force his kids to do actual labor he'd never do himself. | |
That does seem to track with his character. | |
Yeah also I don't think so I don't think so I don't think he cares enough no he's gonna show them what he does which is PR and scamming and which they've been very active in the business as far as that goes. | |
Integral, even. | |
Supposedly, at a later time, Don Jr. | |
did live in a van and work in a bar for a year. | |
Apparently, that happened. | |
Okay, sure. | |
But of course, when you have a billionaire daddy, it can probably better be described as playing pretend at being working class. | |
Yeah. | |
You know? | |
But it's better than nothing, I suppose. | |
But yeah. | |
Yeah. | |
Marie Antoinette milked cows in her backyard, too. | |
Yeah, right. | |
Yeah. | |
Also, as for Rumble, this is a grown man telling us he likes the platform because he can do swears. | |
Cool. | |
Oh, and that up-to-minute technology they're talking about. | |
Oh, we're doing this up-to-the-minute technology is streaming live on location. | |
The minute they bought it at Best Buy? | |
I'm pretty sure that technology's been out for a while, fellas. | |
However, I do know that this interview was last minute because Russell was supposed to be interviewing Elizabeth Pipko that day, the model and RNC spokesperson, but she got bumped for Don Jr. | |
Yeah. | |
He's got the name. | |
He's big enough. | |
There we go. | |
That's it. | |
That's it. | |
Oh, dear. | |
Sorry, Liz. | |
Yeah. | |
You're on your ass. | |
Yeah. | |
They pushed it to the next day. | |
Anyway, next, Junior wants a little bit of credit for something. | |
Yeah, because people always try to score points with that I-was-talking-to-my-plumber type of rhetoric. | |
It's the way that politicians in your country and in mine automatically operate, pretending that they're down with ordinary people. | |
And I've questioned from the outside... Like you! | |
Has this person, in the case of your father Donald Trump, been able to achieve this affinity with ordinary people? | |
And you say socially and historically because it's just been part of... He ran things different. | |
He just did that. | |
I mean, he's always at heart. | |
He's always sort of still, you know, the boy from Queens. | |
And again, he was blessed and privileged, and we get that. | |
We don't discount that. | |
We don't pretend we don't understand that, but that's sort of where you break it down, right? | |
He did the sort of outstanding, lavish things, but at heart, he wants to have a cheeseburger and watch a baseball game, right? | |
He's a regular. | |
I was the guy Decades ago that coined the phrase, you know, sort of blue collar billionaire. | |
And people are like, what are you saying? | |
It's like, now you get it. | |
They never got it. | |
They actually criticized me greatly for apparently not understanding something, but it turns out they were the ones that just didn't understand, you know, let's call it, you know, 300 something million people in America. | |
So, Don Jr. | |
wants credit for coining the phrase, Blue Collar Billionaire. | |
Which, fine. | |
It's an oxymoron to anyone who thinks about it for even half a second. | |
And it is a phrase that has always bothered me, so I would like to correct it. | |
Um, because the blue collar part, that inherently is supposed to include, you know, working long hours at a shitty underpaid job to support yourself and maybe your family. | |
And maybe some evenings and weekends you might have the chance to watch a little TV or get to a ball game. | |
Um, this inherently is not something that Donald Trump is capable of, you know, because of the extreme wealth. | |
Um, the thing that Junior is actually describing is an uncultured billionaire. | |
It's an ignoramus billionaire. | |
It's a man who has the entire world at his feet, but would still prefer to lay in bed eating KFC and watching Fox and Friends. | |
Um, he was somehow sent to Ivy League schools and came out just as ignorant as he went in. | |
I don't think so. | |
I can all but guarantee... | |
I really like Skulls. | |
Yeah, right. I don't think he's the only one. | |
I can all but guarantee if any of those blue collar workers that he's supposed to be emulating had that kind of money, | |
that's probably not what they'd be doing with it. | |
Like, I'd bet serious money that most would be spending time with their families, maybe traveling, maybe taking in a bit of culture, maybe getting some of that education they perhaps wanted but couldn't afford and didn't have the time to pursue. | |
That is what Donald Trump is. | |
He's not a blue-collar billionaire. | |
He's an idiot billionaire. | |
I don't think that's fair. | |
I don't think it's fair to us, to the rest of us, to say that he's an idiot. | |
He is very smart at PR, and he put in a lot of work. | |
Even to say that he's not an idiot. | |
I don't know. | |
It's not that he's not an idiot. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
He acts like an idiot, but the ways in which he's smart are extremely dangerous and dangerous to the rest of us. | |
And there's a long history of him building up to this moment, running for president many times. | |
PR is his, like, his lizard brain understands tabloid PR in a way that I mean, all the social media management blogs in the world wishes they had the instinct of Donald Trump to be like, it's all marketing. | |
That's the thing is like being able to even like proliferate the phrase. | |
Blue-collar billionaire because it is. | |
It's an oxymoron in and of itself. | |
But the fact that it's still even floating around, sure, take credit. | |
Right? | |
I agree. | |
Who fucking cares? | |
But that was a very deliberate effort. | |
That's the one thing he worked really hard at. | |
Yeah. | |
His image, that's it. | |
Yeah, Donald Trump absolutely was calling magazines and saying he was someone else. | |
He was pretending to be his secretary. | |
He was pretending to be his agent using voice affectation. | |
The interviews are hilarious of people that used to talk to him in the 80s. | |
That's the deliberate effort he made in that one regard. | |
Because I don't think it's hard work to not pay your contractors. | |
It's a lack of effort, right? | |
That's easy. | |
You hire lawyers to deal with it. | |
Don't do anything, yes. | |
Yeah, but the other thing that he was doing was PR for himself. | |
I guess to call him an idiot is just kind of letting him off the hook. | |
Well, it's difficult. | |
It's the same with Russell, it's the same with Alex Jones. | |
They definitely are idiots, but they're also incredibly savvy in certain ways that you do have to acknowledge. | |
Exactly! | |
That certainly gives the appearance of cleverness in some ways. | |
Yeah, well, that's the thing that does frustrate me in calling him. | |
And I think that that's something that people that are not as familiar with the content and the subsequent, the very real world consequences of that content, whenever I'm having a conversation with a casual observer of some of this stuff that I wade around in every day, they're like, oh, he's so stupid. | |
Or the way that people were like, Russell, oh, yeah, he was kind of a creep. | |
Like, no, no, no. | |
Serial violent offender is what you're looking for but because it's it's like they're copping to the lesser of offense of like being oh I'm kind of dumb like it gives people a pass that like I I know it's tedious and irritating to like harp on as a point but it's something that like I Have to, like, if I didn't confront it so much in my daily life, then I don't think I'd be that as sensitive or triggered, shall we say, the flames behind me. | |
Like, to it, you know, like, it just, it's, um, and I mean, that's one word that you used in a number of them that I, you know, whatever. | |
It's, obviously, it's fine here, and we're on the level, but, like, that notion of, like, Don't give stupid a pass. | |
Stupid is a pass that I think some people deserve. | |
Like, listen, sometimes people are dumb. | |
These people are not dumb. | |
They're assholes. | |
And they're calculating. | |
There is the classic, like, stupid versus evil continuum, and I think Donald Trump bucks that trend. | |
He is both stupid and evil, I think both things apply. | |
I think a lot of these guys are. | |
Yeah, and I very much do not wish to give him a pass in any way. | |
But, yeah, dear. | |
Anyway, Russell gets to a little bit of classism talk. | |
Great. | |
In particular around the time of Brexit we saw and I was uneasy about what I saw as a kind of blanket condemnation of ordinary people. | |
A kind of a willingness to sort of say that people that voted for Brexit were racist and like people in the north of the country or let's say blue-collar or working-class regions were idiots. | |
And like during the cycles of these elections, it's become pretty clear that there is a kind of contempt for American values, for the values of ordinary people of numerous cultures. | |
So this kind of, whether it's a charismatic ability or just an organic connection to ordinary people, is a surprising phenomena. | |
And do you feel it as well? | |
Do you feel comfortable? | |
Because I suppose you've grown up in a very different environment as any child of a billionaire would. | |
You know, I think I did. | |
It was sort of, it was interesting, I think, because of that. | |
The guys, you know, going and working on a job site during the summers at 14, 15 years old. | |
You know, I actually probably relate much more to that. | |
That doesn't mean, you know, I don't, you know, throw in a tux every once in a while and go do some rubber chicken dinner. | |
But, like, my friends are actually far more heavily based in sort of just ordinary America, right? | |
That's where I spend my time, the outdoor stuff that I do, all that. | |
You know, I don't, Those are your employees! | |
I choose to spend my time there because that's where I'm actually more comfortable. | |
So ironically, getting into sort of politics was actually far more natural for me because those are the people I was spending time with anyway. | |
You know, throwing on, going to a rubber chicken dinner, you know, I was actually faking that. | |
Whereas for politics, I'm not actually faking it. | |
I'm just being who I naturally am. | |
Does that make sense? | |
Yes, it does. | |
And I think what is... | |
Yeah, yeah. | |
That's what I'm saying, though, is because if you call people, like people who disagree with you may be stupid. | |
They may. | |
But because they disagree with you doesn't make them stupid. | |
And I think Russell is like, that's the thing is, Russell, I'm afraid that Russell is smarter than the rest of these dudes as far as packaging these ideas. | |
Because Russell is identifying the exact thing I just said. | |
It's like calling somebody stupid because they disagree with you or because they have been, through a series of unfortunate events, convinced to vote against their interests and convinced that that's what the right thing to do is. | |
They may be stupid also. | |
Yeah. | |
But it's just as endemic as a system that is causing the opioid crisis or causing an immigration crisis, however manufactured or real the actual crisis part might be. | |
You have to go to the root of the problem, and the root of the problem is, yeah, people don't like being condescended to, and people don't like being treated like they're stupid. | |
And that'll turn them against you! | |
And Russell's getting that in a way that, like, Don Jr's just, like, being defensive and weird and, like, very clearly lying! | |
Yes, yeah! | |
In an embarrassing way! | |
Like, I'm embarrassed for him! | |
My rich hunting buddies, yeah, they're real America. | |
Yeah, all his friends are working class construction workers. | |
A bunch of employees delivered a lion for you to torture. | |
Like, that's it. | |
Like, no. | |
No. | |
Oh, come on. | |
They're paid to like you. | |
One of his besties these days is venture capitalist and senator from Ohio, J.D. | |
Vance. | |
And even if he does spend any time with people working in construction or the like, which I highly doubt, it would still be an exercise in playing pretend, right? | |
He will never actually be able to understand or sympathize with the plight of the working class because he's never ever been that and never ever will be. | |
We have a holiday for that. | |
It's called fucking Halloween, dog. | |
Like, if you want to play around. | |
Play dress up? | |
Yeah. | |
Yeah. | |
Join the theater. | |
Do something. | |
Entertain people. | |
Which, he is a rizz black hole. | |
I am so bored. | |
As soon- I gotta work hard to keep the old ADHD monkey under control whenever he's- I'm like, okay, we have to still listen to what he's saying, even though it's completely insane and wrong. | |
I just- and he wants haters so bad. | |
Like, he wants them, and he's not getting them. | |
I'm realizing that, like, the clips that I've heard of him talking have to be in conjunction with some other event, or some other person, because he's such a fucking borosnoro, like, milquetoast- Because no one gives two shits! | |
Snooze and I don't it's not entertaining like if I'm gonna listen to a person lie It better be fucking entertaining. | |
Yeah. | |
Yeah, like he's got a dazzle dog He's got like nearly a couple of million subscribers on rumble and I do not know how I do I cannot fathom that whatsoever But but it's the name. | |
It's gotta just be the name. | |
That's yeah, that's it Yeah Yes, that's sad. | |
That's sad to hear him be like, oh I'm so edgy, I'm so censored, oh my god. | |
When like, no, that's why I don't hear you talk. | |
Why are you talking? | |
You say nothing. | |
Yeah, I'd also like for Russell to elaborate on what he thinks American values are because he's claiming that there's a massive movement against them. | |
I'm like, Oh, honey. | |
Yeah, right. | |
Do you mean xenophobia? | |
Do you mean racism? | |
Which American values are we talking? | |
Institutionalized slavery? | |
Is that one? | |
That seems to happen a lot. | |
Medical bankruptcy? | |
Is that one? | |
General oppression. | |
Yes, exactly. | |
American values. | |
The calling people racist is another thing. | |
Like, as with Brexit, it's not that all the people who voted for Brexit were racist. | |
It's that if you were racist, you were gonna vote for Brexit. | |
And I say this from- Exactly! | |
I say this from Wales, which voted overwhelmingly in favour of Brexit, and coincidentally there are very few brown people in this here country. | |
Just saying, there's a correlation there. | |
And the same of course applies in the US with Trumpers. | |
You don't have to be racist to be a Trumper, but if you're racist, you're supporting Trump. | |
But it helps! | |
You don't have to be a racist here, but it helps! | |
It sure does. | |
That's what I'm saying. | |
And that's why I think it's such, it is a slippery slope. | |
And I think, because you know, like, I don't think that that applies across the board. | |
But as far as like calling people stupid, I do. | |
It's, it's a little bit like road rage-y, you know, like, maybe get less mad. | |
If somebody cuts you off in traffic, they might have to take a shit. | |
They might have something going on. | |
How about you just calm down, because guess what? | |
You're no saint either. | |
Sometimes if you accidentally run that stop sign because you couldn't see it because of the tree, like in the Partridge Family episode that somehow still comes to my brain every time I think about that, sometimes shit happens. | |
And maybe we should be a little less mad, because it's about, like, education is a privilege. | |
And having, like, the wherewithal to understand these concepts It is a privilege, check your privilege, but also, like, have some compassion, but at the same time, yes, it's very frustrating. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
Some kindness really goes a long way, and it sucks. | |
If you're gonna be mad at people, like, be mad at the people who are lying to them. | |
Yes! | |
That's who you need to be mad at. | |
Yes! | |
A thousand times yes. | |
Absolutely. | |
Absolutely. | |
Yeah. | |
Now in the next clip... Because he can use it. | |
He can use it too, you know? | |
Russell can use it and he just did. | |
They do. | |
They do every single day. | |
Every single day. | |
And it works. | |
It's super effective. | |
Now in the next clip, Russell finally acknowledges his own privilege about time. | |
What it says to me is that elitism is real. | |
Look, I recognise economic elitism and I recognise privilege. | |
I live a pretty privileged life myself, there's no question about that. | |
But what I'm interested in is the kind of contempt and hatred Not only for Donald Trump, your father, because I can see how that's politically expedient and necessary to amplify him as a threat, as a kind of, you know, the obvious example that is continually used is to try to portray Donald Trump as a reboot-in of the militaristic dictators of the last century, even though this is a president that's already had four years in office and didn't seek to use the military to shut down... Well, how about accomplished peace deals? | |
We went from signing peace deals in the Middle East to having any one of a number of conflicts that could escalate into World War III and yet Trump was the dictator. | |
It's hard to reconcile that. | |
The level of mental gymnastics to try to Even understand the narrative of today's left is really getting complicated. | |
It's very hard. | |
The reality on election day in November, you will have had four years under Trump and you will have had four years under Joe Biden. | |
That doesn't happen often where it's not just talk or rhetoric. | |
It's actually you've had real world experience. | |
When were you better off? | |
Name a metric, a single metric, where we are better off today than we were four years ago. | |
You know, the adults were back in charge, but they stood back in charge, and they withdrew from Afghanistan, and Americans are killed for the first time in 18 months in a conflict zone, and rather than taking accountability or acknowledging stupidity or whatever, we have our Secretary of State, the adults who are back in charge, gets on a world stage before Congress and says, he's shocked and dismayed. | |
And I quote, you know, that the Taliban did not install a more diverse and inclusive government. | |
I'm saying, I don't know, guys. | |
Like, if you want to be dismayed, fine. | |
You're shocked that the Taliban didn't have a, you know, a trans contingent, Russell. | |
They didn't take those things into consideration. | |
And we are shocked that that didn't happen. | |
I'm like, They threw people off buildings for being homosexuals, you know, like for the last 20 years. | |
We've been at war for that. | |
It's not we didn't understand them. | |
We've been at war for 20 years. | |
We thought magically they were going to change because, you know, corporate America put up, you know, trans flags for Pride Month. | |
Those are not serious people. | |
And yet those are people who are making literally trillion dollar decisions, not just for Americans, but for people around the globe. | |
So it was 18 months because the 2021 he's talking about, there was a global pandemic, so there was kind of, you know, a little bit, a little bit less, uh, less violence. | |
Um, okay. | |
So we're talking about Antony Blinken back in 2021 here. | |
This is, this is, I don't know why the fuck we're talking about something from three years ago, but apparently we are. | |
Um, I guess that's when- All the subjects seem extremely disparate. | |
Don't they? | |
So, uh, yeah. | |
Disparate and old, almost like that's when this guy was last fucking relevant. | |
At this point, by the way, I'm pretty sure no one should listen to anything that Antony Blinken has to say, but yes, Blinken did say in 2021 he took issue with the new Afghan government headed by the Taliban because it failed the inclusivity test. | |
There are a couple of important things to note here, one of which is that yes, the Taliban are nationalists and Islamic fundamentalists. | |
They're also mostly what was left in Afghanistan in terms of power after the US had been there for 20 years. | |
The US-Taliban deal was brought in under Donald Trump in February 2020, and as US troops left, the Taliban led major offensives across Afghanistan. | |
There is, quite frankly, a lot of fucked up shit that's gone on over there since, and the inclusivity that Blinken was talking about was nothing to do with trans people. | |
At all. | |
He just likes to throw that out there. | |
It was to do with women's rights in Afghanistan. | |
See, for the US-Taliban deal, women's rights advocates were a prominent part of the Afghan negotiating team, and yet since regaining power, the Taliban regaining power, women have been denied the right to any education or to work in almost any jobs, and enforce dress codes, you know, must walk around with a male escort, all of that. | |
And things have pretty much gone back to how they were 20-something years ago, basically. | |
The Taliban went back on their side of the deal because they kind of knew that they could. | |
And Blinken never said that he was shocked and dismayed, by the way. | |
He actually never said that, and I'd be very surprised if anyone was particularly surprised by what occurred. | |
Oh, so he just pulled that out of his butt? | |
Yeah. | |
Right here? | |
That's not from anywhere? | |
No. | |
Okay! | |
Now, Blinken commented on it. | |
He was like, yeah, it seems like a problem. | |
But he wasn't shocked or dismayed. | |
Well, at least that's more consistent that he's not shocked and dismayed at anything. | |
But it's almost like we're bad at war. | |
It's almost like America's really bad at the wars. | |
Yeah, yeah. | |
Because you can't seem to win. | |
I wonder why? | |
Yeah, yeah. And when you decimate a country, it's a lot easier for fundamentalism to take root and | |
and have warlord control and like warlord like or actual control. Yeah, as it is the Taliban still | |
have complete control and no government in the world recognizes the Taliban as the Afghan government | |
but they're fucking there. | |
They have been for three years, just completely unchecked, you know. | |
There's been some efforts towards normalization, which is terrifying and not cool. | |
I mean, yeah, and again, like, yeah, of course, right. | |
Nothing's set in stone, but not for lack of trying on some fronts. | |
I mean, just everyone I know, every American that had to go to Afghanistan and come back and has changed their life forever, changed their brain forever, and their body, and VR. | |
At least that was all for absolutely fucking nothing. | |
British soldiers, very much the same. | |
I know some people who were over there. | |
It's awful. | |
Well, at least... | |
At least it was worth it, right? | |
Fuck's sake. | |
Also, the US as a whole does seem to have a memory of things being economically better under Trump, which is interesting. | |
That does seem to be the trend. | |
And there are two big causes I can think of off the top of my head. | |
One is that there was a significant hangover of Obama's economic policy still coming to fruition while Trump was in office. | |
That definitely happened. | |
The second is that what Biden inherited was not only four years of Trump policy, but also a global pandemic. | |
It was Biden's job to then fix the problem. | |
Under close analysis, the US managing to be where it is today economically is actually kind of impressive. | |
The U.S. | |
economy is growing faster than projected, driven largely by consumer spending and the Federal Reserve's successful efforts to get inflation under control without triggering a recession. | |
Americans' wages are now growing faster than inflation, which is pretty significant considering where inflation was at a couple of years ago. | |
Unemployment reached its lowest level since 1969 under Biden, despite previously reaching a significant peak of 15% in 2020 during the pandemic. | |
The stock market has also been setting new record highs after growing 24% last year. | |
Yay. | |
Some of us might think that's actually a really bad thing. | |
I'm not gonna sign off on that, yay, even a little bit. | |
Sarcastic, yay. | |
Very much sarcastic. | |
Trump is claiming that the stock market is growing because they all think he's going to be president again. | |
That's his claim. | |
Bitch! | |
Which I love. | |
I've been talking to my, okay, straight up, like I sell shit retail, right? | |
And I'm like, man, things is like, this is a weird season, which, or, or I've been doing surprisingly well compared to my compatriots. | |
And I talk to people that own the retail spaces or also do the events. | |
And they're like, yeah, usually when people are upset about a, uh, a, a, uh, an election that makes them uneasy, you know, we've noticed this as a shopping trend where they buy less. | |
Yeah. | |
Like literally the opposite is happening. | |
Yeah. | |
And I get that it's, I mean, it's anecdotal, but also it's not. | |
And I mean, the numbers, the numbers don't necessarily reflect our experience, which, so it's hard to hear. | |
Um, I think as far as like, uh, I mean, consumer spending, those are, those are, it's, it's, uh, price gouging is why consumer spending is up is because they can, so they did. | |
They're doubling the price of everything, so they did. | |
But that's still, I mean, the fact that people can, you know, like, that's, that's, it's not to say that that's not happening. | |
And I, what's funny is like, he said four years ago, usually more kind of like with it pundits, or maybe he thinks he's in good company. | |
So it literally, he's acting like, Nothing he says matters. | |
So I can see that he would not be as fastidious because he's on Rumble. | |
He's not on Fox News. | |
Fox News, like those people know to say five years ago, which is hilarious to me. | |
It's like they don't say, oh, were you better off four years ago, which is what every single presidential campaign, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, for anyone that's like not an incumbent. | |
But most Conservatives say like, weren't you better off five years ago? | |
They don't say four years ago. | |
Yeah, yeah. | |
Because four years ago was motherfucking 2020. | |
2020, yeah, exactly. | |
No one was better off. | |
No. | |
We've all been significantly worse off. | |
Well, the stock market was doing just great, I think you'll find. | |
Yeah. | |
We know! | |
It's depressing. | |
It's doing great again because they think Trump is going to be president, which, mwah, love it. | |
Maybe some of them. | |
It feels anecdotal. | |
He'll take credit for anything before or after. | |
That is true. | |
It's fantastic. | |
At any day, this guy's going to get elected. | |
Right, exactly. | |
There is plenty that's fucked about the Biden presidency, including things like credit card debt being at record highs in the U.S., for instance, as well as his namesake of Genocide Joe. | |
But there are definitely metrics where things have been better under Biden than they were under Trump, and that is in spite of having to deal with a pandemic. | |
So that's just to address the little point he made there. | |
Is there any metrics? | |
The consumer spending is up and credit card debt is up! | |
Hey! | |
Huh! | |
Huh! | |
Interesting, yeah. | |
Well, you know. | |
And to the broader point about Trump being a dictator while signing peace deals, Trump was, sure, signing peace deals in the Middle East. | |
That is true. | |
Not convinced how much he had to do with them. | |
Dude! | |
He was trying to start war so hard! | |
Get out of here! | |
That's all... I can't. | |
Yes, he was also trying to start wars in the Middle East. | |
But either way, all of that has very little to do with being a dictator towards his own people. | |
Frankly, you can do both. | |
You know. | |
Unfortunately, yeah. | |
Yeah, yeah, exactly. | |
Anyway. | |
The U.S. | |
would be happy to deal with you if you oppress your own people but want to talk to them for, because money. | |
Yeah, you oppress your people but you're wealthy? | |
We'll take you, let's have a chat. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
You want to buy some missiles? | |
We get back to COVID in this next clip. | |
Don, one of the things that we can use to draw points of distinction because it spanned both administrations is, of course, the pandemic. | |
Now, I recognize that at the beginning of the pandemic period, we were in a different environment. | |
And Donald Trump's enthusiasm for Operation Warp Speed, as well as some of the things that he said that in retrospect were pretty interesting around hydrochloric... I can never say that word. | |
Hydroxychloroquine. | |
Well done, man. | |
Yes. | |
Well done. | |
Like, you know, like he did have an interesting approach. | |
But do you feel that if Donald Trump outright said these vaccines weren't what they claim to be, and some people won't even use the term vaccines now, gene therapies weren't what we thought they were? | |
Excess deaths need to be looked at, adverse events need to be looked at, and the big pharma companies need to be examined in the same way you would around the opioid crisis. | |
Do you think that many of the people in his base, in addition to, I'm assuming, other people would find that appealing? | |
I actually think so. | |
I mean, you know, and I agree with all of that. | |
I think, you know, when he takes criticism for that, I think you have to go back in hindsight. | |
Right. | |
If Trump would have fired Fauci when we all started questioning it, he would have been impeached in seven seconds. | |
And he would have had a hundred percent of the, you know, again, they turned someone into a deity. | |
They did that very much on purpose because they could use that as a crudgel against Trump. | |
Yeah. | |
He was looking at all of these things as potentials, but guess what? | |
None of those. | |
That turns out it's actually right. | |
You know, remdesivir, whatever the other ones were. | |
Hey, it was right. | |
He was looking at all of these things as potentials, but guess what? | |
None of those, you know, a drug that's been out in the open market for 50 years, | |
none of that meant money to big pharma and to those institutions, | |
those same institutions that I guess we found out, I guess, part of the, you know, NIH or whatever it is, | |
the scientists there, they've made $70 million in royalties | |
for the things that they came up with that don't seem to have been effective at all, | |
yada yada yada. | |
(laughs) | |
Don't yadda yadda yadda anti-vax shit at me, Junior. | |
That's just rude. | |
So, those royalties, they go back into the NIH. | |
They're not paid out to individual scientists. | |
That's obvious point number one. | |
I'm sorry. | |
Fucking stupid thing to have to say, but there we are. | |
Yeah, but he's a Trump, so he thinks all the profit belongs to him, so he thinks everybody else is that way too. | |
Yeah. | |
Because net and gross are the same when you don't pay anybody. | |
Right. | |
Like when you don't fulfill any contracts. | |
So maybe that's just a Trump bias. | |
Yeah, maybe, maybe. | |
So yeah, it goes back into the NIH, which, you know, it goes back into the government. | |
That's money going back in. | |
It's a good thing, you idiots. | |
Obvious point number two is, well, if Trump was painted into such a box, why was he so vocally supportive of, and continues to be supportive of, the vaccine? | |
As well as, why did he give Fauci a medal, if he hates the guy so much? | |
So many questions. | |
And, yeah, obvious point number three goes to Russell's question, oh, do you think if he comes out against the vaccines, his base would like that? | |
No fucking shit, Sherlock. | |
Your incisive political analysis definitely merits the millions and millions of subscribers you have. | |
Good lord, what a redundant question. | |
Okay. | |
Dude. | |
Alright. | |
I can't with that. | |
Here's what's crazy. | |
Yeah? | |
They have demonized and they've said that it's not effective, which, like, it's completely... I just... I can't even deal with that, right? | |
Yeah. | |
Here's the thing, because of COVID, because of all the research that had to go into COVID, because it was such a massive problem, right? | |
There is potential for a vaccine for all coronaviruses. | |
We may have a vaccine for the type Not because coronavirus is a type of virus, right? | |
And so coronaviruses, like there literally could potentially be a cure for what is the common cold. | |
Like the thing that the the shorthand cure for the common cold is like the shorthand for like a difficulty with that medical, you know, like medical practitioners have been challenged with for hundreds and hundreds of years, whatever, right? | |
We might actually have a vaccine for The type coronavirus. | |
That is so fucking cool and exciting. | |
Yeah, I'm not sure I can even conceptualize that. | |
Like, that's insane, isn't it? | |
Well, the thing is, is a vaccine is not something, like, we know, you know, like, getting vaccinated, like, it's not perfect. | |
It's not like, you know, it's not like getting chicken pox. | |
It's not that, it's not, you know, it's not, it doesn't work the same way, but To lessen the effects to the point where they would potentially be, like, little to no effect on the individual. | |
Basically redundant, yeah. | |
And, like, flus, right? | |
Just wouldn't be a thing. | |
You wouldn't have to get sick, you wouldn't have to potentially... For, like, for immune compromised people, like, it's such... | |
We should be so excited about it. | |
Yeah. | |
And we're not even going to hear about it because of these fucking jokers. | |
Yeah. | |
Jokers are the fucking death wish. | |
And making things into religion that no one is saying is a religion is a through line in this conversation that is absolutely absurd. | |
And it just needs to be said that no one's making shit a religion except for y'all. | |
Except for you. | |
Knock it off. | |
Yeah, exactly. | |
This COVID shit is a fucking religion with you people. | |
It's insulting to their religion. | |
If you're calling it a religion, you're saying like, well, that's why we should disregard what they think because they've made it into a religion. | |
What about yours? | |
Does that work both ways? | |
And the reason people keep calling it gene therapies in these circles now is because they can get away with that on YouTube. | |
That's the only reason. | |
Russell. | |
Yeah, yeah, the concept of like, I don't know, I mean I've had pneumonia, I had swine flu back when that was going around, so the concept of never having to experience any of that again, holy shit that would be mind-blowing. | |
I get it too. | |
That's the only time I've ever hallucinated I was so sick. | |
I did not know that was a thing. | |
I thought that was just like a fun medieval, like, thing of the past. | |
And I was like, oh, no, that's how sick I got to be. | |
Yeah. | |
Great. | |
Yeah. | |
No, I couldn't lift a 500ml bottle of water, you know, and I've got a pretty decent immune system, right? | |
So let alone the immunocompromised, you know. | |
But that's the point, though. | |
It's like, coronaviruses don't care about your, like, they don't give, they'll use, they use it against you, you see. | |
The coronavirus uses your immune system against you, so it doesn't matter. | |
You can be healthy one day and then sick forever the next. | |
That's the point. | |
And that's why a vaccine, a universal, even taking 30% of the edge off, which is kind of like what the numbers are sort of turning out to be, is like, even if it reduces coronavirus impact Across the board by 30%. | |
That's fucking huge. | |
That'd be amazing. | |
Yeah. | |
Yeah, the leap and bound that that represents as well. | |
It's crazy. | |
It's absolutely crazy. | |
These ungrateful fucks. | |
Okay, so now we get to why it's an interesting question. | |
Why Trump didn't pardon the Jan Sixers? | |
At the time. | |
He would have been killed for going against a Fauci. | |
That's not even a pretense. | |
Same thing with- Nope. | |
You know, January 6th, you know, they show you a couple of videos of, you know, they're certainly some bad actors, right? | |
You know, we don't, but like. | |
7, 10, but that was the video they showed you. | |
And then for the 14 days between that and the transition of power. | |
Well, why didn't he pardon everyone? | |
Well, because the only thing we saw, the only thing that was made available to the public was this image of like, hey man, that could look like an insurrection. | |
Then you see, you know, now we see videos of grandmothers taking selfies, like within the velvet ropes, those people were questioned by the FBI and thrown in jail for years. | |
You know, now we know that, but at the time, You called them all Antifa! | |
What did we actually know? | |
What was made available to us? | |
It took two years to get even the basic information out. | |
It took years to get the videos out of, you know, again, the insurrectionists conveniently being escorted and toured through by armed officers. | |
We have Christopher Wray a couple of months ago saying, well, we can't release the videos because we had too many agents undercover. | |
Well, you had agents undercover that were armed in there, and yet You did nothing? | |
They allowed literally an insurrection? | |
If Trump went against Andy, you're literally killing grandmothers. | |
You're literally doing that, Russell. | |
You mean with COVID? | |
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, Russell is probably culpable for at least some COVID deaths, I would say. | |
Um, okay. | |
Can't clip that. | |
Right. | |
So, Trump didn't pardon any of the Jan Sixers supposedly because, like, the Footage that was available like that was there was was was not right and the information just wasn't available basically Okay, and the whole thing it was actually completely fine It was just people taking selfies beyond the velvet ropes and they got put in prison for decades Which of course they didn't but the whole thing was completely fine | |
Weird how it was so fine, given that Junior was texting Mark Meadows on the day as the attack was ongoing, begging Meadows to persuade Trump Sr. | |
to stop the attack. | |
Begging him. | |
Why would you be begging to stop the thing if it was all fine? | |
That's a question I'd like it answered. | |
Now they're tourists. | |
Now they're either cute little tourists or false flag, like, crisis actor plants. | |
It was the Feds. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
The Feds. | |
They said that shit immediately. | |
No, you want to know what happens? | |
Why they wouldn't pardon anybody? | |
Is why Trump wouldn't pardon anybody? | |
Because He doesn't give a shit. | |
Doesn't give a single shit. | |
Because as soon as like, that's that's what's crazy. | |
And that's what's so like disheartening is like, can y'all not see like, you know, kind of these like chaos agents that are being stochastically terroristed into these spaces is like some, you know, extremist, lone wolf or networked. | |
They're like, as soon as you do the thing that they have been telling you to do for years, you are dropped like a hot rock dog. | |
You are out. | |
They are going to completely throw you to the wolves. | |
They are not going to take care of you. | |
That has been the way of things. | |
That's also just politics. | |
So maybe don't engage like it's a sport ball game. | |
Maybe there's actually a moral imperative. | |
I'd like every politician to be a little more aware of that. | |
Of moral imperatives? | |
Yeah. | |
In general. | |
Oh boy. | |
So next, Junya spins a little bit of a conspiracy. | |
Of course that's, like, I look at all of the America last decisions that we see from the, whether it's energy, whether it's this, whether it's the dealings from China and, you know, bringing down our strategic petroleum reserves and cutting off American energy. | |
I'm like, not one of these things is good for America. | |
Could they be done because there's undue influence? | |
And given all of the information that's out there, given all of the shade, you know, if that was my laptop, it would be a problem. | |
It wouldn't just be someone struggling with addiction. | |
Yes. | |
Like, you know, it would be a serious issue. | |
It'd be nonstop news. | |
I know that because I saw what happened in Russia, Russia, Russia. | |
And that was one thing. | |
There are dozens of things and, you know, just absolute crickets. | |
And, you know, I think that in and of itself is, you know, sort of enough to make everyone question, like, what's the, you know, whatever level of disdain you have for sort of mainstream media, it is not enough. | |
So, supposedly no one's talking about Hunter Biden's laptop enough. | |
There's not enough coverage there. | |
Because what's actually occurring is Hunter Biden and Joe Biden have some kind of undue influence over them, presumably from either Ukraine or China, which is deciding the policies of the US government. | |
Again, love to see some sources on this one. | |
A bit more specificity and anything, really, to be honest. | |
Yeah, the dozens? | |
Yeah. | |
Listen? | |
Yeah, yeah, go on. | |
I'd love to hear it. | |
Yeah. | |
One dozen. | |
Was there an issue with Burisma? | |
I would accept one dozen. | |
Let's go, let's party! | |
Sure. | |
I will listen to that podcast series tomorrow. | |
Yeah? | |
Yeah. | |
Hopefully not hosted by him, but you know. | |
Oh, if he wants... Honestly? | |
He's like, I'm gonna lay it out. | |
I'm gonna do my exposition of these dozens and dozens. | |
You give me the made episodes, I'll gobble them up. | |
Honestly. | |
That'd be an on-brand special edition, let me tell you something. | |
I would eat my hat if he could name one dozen, I really would. | |
Yeah. | |
I think one. | |
Yeah. | |
Yep. | |
Oh dear. | |
Because he's taking these thoughts, like he's taking the, like even the thread of this conversation and just closing his eyes and whiffing it into a field. | |
Like every single one of these clips starts in one place and just like ends up like a tennis ball in a cornfield. | |
Just hucking it. | |
Gone. | |
Totally, totally off base. | |
Crazy. | |
Yeah, yeah. | |
It's very difficult to keep track during the whole conversation, I will say that. | |
Weirdly, like, the reverse situation was actually much more coherent of Russell being the interviewee. | |
That was weirdly much easier to track. | |
Anyway. | |
Thank God we don't cover Don Jr.' 's podcast. | |
Oh my God. | |
Fuck me. | |
No, no. | |
I draw the line. | |
I'm sorry. | |
I drew a line. | |
On the subject of Ukraine, Don Jr. | |
illustrates problems with faulty polling. | |
I agree with Mike Benz's analysis that when people say democracy now, for example, talking about Ukraine, they don't mean the electoral process by which a population... They suspended elections in Ukraine. | |
They suspended elections by controlling media. | |
They banned religious institutions. | |
It's a war! | |
Gonzalo Lira dies in that prison. | |
I think it's such a deep tragedy that Gonzalo Lira died in prison and that the Ukrainian people are dying in such considerable numbers when it appears that there could be a diplomatic solution Simply by withdrawing their level of support. | |
But there's no money in peace, Russell. | |
That's the point. | |
If my father was in there, he gets people at the table. | |
The way to get people at the table is threaten that withdrawal of the money. | |
As long as the generals and the people who are actually not at risk at all on the front lines in Ukraine are making millions, they're pilfering the money. | |
We've seen that, right? | |
We donated money to a city, but it disappeared magically, right? | |
Every time the Ukrainians shoot down a Russian jeep, Right? | |
It's an incredible victory for Ukraine. | |
If they lose a quadrant of a country to Russia, it was a strategic withdrawal. | |
We see what's happening in real time. | |
And what's really scary is it literally feels like a sanctioned genocide of, frankly, both Ukrainians and Russians. | |
We're just going to send a bunch of Eastern Europeans to die as cannon fodder. | |
And as long as the guys in charge get rich and aren't really at risk, it's going to go in perpetuity. | |
It's been two years and we have not been told, like, what does victory look like? | |
Is it, like, just the entire genocide of the Russian population? | |
Is it Ukraine taking over Russia? | |
Is it just going back to neutral? | |
No one's even said that yet, and yet we'll fund it, you know, as though it's, you know, the greatest cause in the world, and it doesn't resonate with the people. | |
I go around, I speak in front of a lot of Republicans around the world, certainly the country, and I think I've done an in-person live survey in front of thousands of people at a time, probably about 60-65,000 people in total over the last two years. | |
Live audience. | |
Wait, is it a top three issue? | |
Zero people have raised their hand. | |
Not a top three issue, Ukraine. | |
Is it top ten? | |
Three people. | |
One happened to be from Kiev, I gave him a pass. | |
One was a guy that's tied to the sort of military-industrial complex, so of course he was getting rich off of it. | |
And another misunderstood the question, he thought it was a double negative, and it was not important. | |
But, so, two people out of 65,000 people thought it was a top ten issue. | |
Yes. | |
And yet, you know, Washington DC, it's a number one issue for both sides and they're going to fund it ad nauseam because they're all getting rich. | |
Okay. | |
So, he claims to have polled or surveyed 65,000 people over two years about the issue of Ukraine. | |
And, yeah, two of them claim it to be a top three or top ten issue. | |
Call me crazy, but what kind of people show up to events featuring Don Jr.? | |
Strikes me that perhaps this 65,000 people, if that's an accurate number, are a very specific type of person and aren't quite representative of the broader tapestry of America, shall we say. | |
I'm going to say 65,000 attendees. | |
Just so maybe the same person showing up at your events over and over because they got more money than since. | |
We'll say attendees to all the events. | |
Let's be extremely generous. | |
Did you ask every single one of those 65,000? | |
Really? | |
Are you not controlling and allowing people? | |
Like, honestly, the fact that a couple got through is amazing. | |
But he still found reasons to not listen to them. | |
Oh, yeah! | |
That's what's amazing, is like, oh, well, he rationalized all of the complaints away. | |
One was from Kiev, so fuck him. | |
So it's technically actually none. | |
Yeah, exactly. | |
One's from Kiev, so fuck him, and one's from- Yeah, one is maybe informed and abreast of the situation on the ground, so we definitely throw that one out. | |
Fuck that guy. | |
Oh, okay. | |
Great. | |
And the other one works for the military-industrial complex, so fuck him too. | |
Like, okay, great. | |
These people just don't allow opinions. | |
Yeah. | |
Yeah, as for what victory looks like in the whole Ukraine situation, I mean, Russia fucking back off to their own territory would be a good start, but both of these chuckleheads want to choke off funding and support to Ukraine to make sure that Russia wins and gets to take over a sovereign country. | |
That's what both of them want in this conversation. | |
That's what Donald Trump, you know, bringing people to the table is. | |
It's, we're gonna cut off your money, so here you go, good luck. | |
Yeah, he's totally willing to just fuck people over, because that's what he did a lot also. | |
If you want to be upset about the way things are going, because it is a morass at this point. | |
And again, I think that maybe America's like super bad at war. | |
So maybe we're shitty to have on your side. | |
I don't know. | |
That's great. | |
But what we should be upset about is that it got to this point when there could have been diplomatic Considerably cheaper solutions well before we got to this point if you want to complain about the proxy war everything like you want to be against it understand why and how it could have been better and where it would have gotten fixed not getting to this point at all having a totally different I mean but that would also I don't have a time machine and nor do I have a magic wand. | |
So that's the reality of like, what you're saying is genuinely like, oh, this is where we're at. | |
This is where we're at. | |
So you have to deal with it. | |
And these people that we're talking about are sticking their head in the sand and pretending that it's not a problem. | |
And it is as easy as flipping a switch. | |
That's the Trump way, is ignore it or break it. | |
Yeah, yeah, and that would be the solution, is break it. | |
Yeah! | |
Yeah, and I don't know what the solution could have been preemptively. | |
I don't know if anything could have reasonably stopped Putin. | |
He seems Pretty intent on trying to reform the Soviet Union, but yeah, who knows? | |
There may have been something on the table, but that's certainly... It's not even that. | |
I'm saying that's like, I don't have a time machine, nor do I have a magic wand. | |
Yeah. | |
America is kind of like, in retrospect, if you actually look at it, impressively shitty at war and diplomacy. | |
Maybe the Cold War ruined fucking everything and it was a bad idea the whole time. | |
Maybe that, like, that's the thing. | |
It's like, I don't have a magic wand and I don't have a time machine, so we're dealing with what we're dealing with. | |
That's the reality of the situation. | |
Inheriting a problem does not mean that it could have been better. | |
It's philosophical. | |
It's a systemic problem. | |
Listen, again, he's not wrong. | |
Cashing checks, securing the bag seems to be the only thing that politicians are good at anymore. | |
It didn't Oh, it was not always this way. | |
It genuinely wasn't. | |
There had to be a lot of changes to get us here as far as, like, approving, like, loopholes and funding and, like, all these different kind of... I mean, if you listen to the... Okay. | |
Nope. | |
I'm digressing. | |
Oh my god. | |
I'm not talking about diplomats. | |
I'm out. | |
I'm done. | |
I've said my piece. | |
I'm not going to complain about specific diplomats I may or may not have been watching on YouTube a lot this week. | |
That's a horse of a different color entirely. | |
Fair enough. | |
Just thought finished. | |
That's where we're at. | |
I'm not magic. | |
Next, we get to a bit of pre-emptive providing cover to Trump should he resume the presidency. | |
It's starting already. | |
And do you think that that is the type of... is that... because if there is so much deep state power and global power and power being deployed by global agencies, you know, if this is a really a war that is governed by or At the behest of military industrial complex interests and NATO policy, then is it something that, you know, when Donald Trump said, we could just leave NATO or we can stop funding NATO, do you think that that is the case? | |
And in recent interviews, Donald Trump said, like, you know, I'll release the 9-11 files, I'll release the JFK files. | |
When in office, are those things able to happen or are the various institutional interests too restrictive to prevent that kind of thing? | |
Well, I think they're going to go all out to prevent it, right? | |
You just have to, you know, the reality is you need someone with the resolve to do that. | |
I don't, you know, if we had a bench of people that I thought could actually do that, that would be wonderful. | |
It'd be much easier than getting back into this. | |
I think right now, my father's the only guy that can actually stand up to that. | |
And I think Perhaps why the level of attack now is so much more aggressive, so much more ridiculous, frankly, but is that coming in as an outsider, it's sort of hard to figure that out, right? | |
The plum book, which is the book of 4,000 jobs essentially appointed by the president, like you come in as an outsider, 4,000 jobs, like you can find five maybe of people that you like, and then 4,000 that, well, I think, I guess he's, you know, I guess he's on our team, who knows? | |
You know, currency, it's not like business. | |
You sort of understand in business what everyone's motivation is, whether it's money or success or what, you get that. | |
In DC, you know, someone could be on board with everything that you're doing, but they'll snake you to get a favor from a reporter who he's working on some sort of other, it's just, it's a lot more nebulous. | |
And so, you know, I think the fear of Trump is that now that he's got four years, now that he understands those workings, now that he understands who can be trusted and who can't, That notion scares them much more, because I think he can be much more effective in a second term than he ever could have in a first, especially when you consider the sort of... No, that's what scares us. | |
Yeah. | |
First two years were occupied by Russia, Russia, Russia. | |
Maybe first three years, and then the last year occupied by COVID. | |
I mean, they threw everything at him, and yet our economy flourished. | |
You know, job numbers were going up. | |
Lowest income earners were getting real wage growth. | |
I mean, success after success after success, and that's before you get to peace in the Middle East. | |
Yada, yada, yada. | |
I mean, he had a pretty amazing temperament when you consider that he was up against arguably insurmountable forces that no other president, right or left, has ever faced to do the basic duties of the duly elected president of the United States. | |
FDR can suck it. | |
FDR can fully suck it. | |
FDR can suck it. | |
Abraham Lincoln can suck it. | |
They can all suck it. | |
No president has ever faced the impediments that Trump did. | |
LBJ can suck it. | |
Anyway, yeah, the point that Russell was trying to make was to provide cover for Trump, right? | |
Saying, well, you know, Trump keeps making these promises, but you know, the deep state is just so effective, are they going to let him? | |
Essentially already, you know, providing that long, tired excuse of why Trump didn't fulfil any of his promises the first time. | |
It's just, let's bring that back. | |
He's not actually going to be able to do any of this stuff, so let's deep state, everybody. | |
But Junior hits on something that, yeah, feels a little bit more real. | |
Which is that 2024 is a wildly different time to 2016 and there's a very real possibility that if Trump gets back in there will be no more adults in the room to prevent him doing the crazy shit like there was the first time. | |
He spent a decade indoctrinating these people into Trumperism and so we may see a Trump presidency without any guardrails. | |
And that is terrifying! | |
Yeah, there's guardrails. | |
He doesn't want to get prosecuted. | |
That's the only reason he's running for president still. | |
He never wanted it. | |
None of them ever wanted it. | |
And now they're all fantasizing about him dying in jail. | |
That's literally the best thing they can imagine could happen. | |
Trump himself said it. | |
Trump himself said, I'd happily go to jail. | |
Best case scenario, old man dies in jail. | |
Like, straight up. | |
That's what they want? | |
Can you imagine that your biggest public supporters, we talked about this a little bit last week too, like, before we recorded, or no, after we recorded, was like, the biggest goal, number one, like, well, it's not the goal, but like the best thing that could happen that your supporters, your vocal supporters imagine, They fantasize about you dying in jail. | |
Like, that's their, like, big plan. | |
That would cement the cause for decades to come. | |
Yep! | |
Sure would! | |
Yeah. | |
People rooting for you to be a martyr? | |
Not great. | |
And yeah. | |
This conversation is so parallel to reality and so completely in outer space at the same time, it is jarring. | |
This is so close to the truth, with a couple of different words changed, but also space brain. | |
In a galaxy far, far away, what are we fucking talking about? | |
It's ridiculous. | |
Pretty much. | |
And speaking of lands far away, we're now going to talk about Robert De Niro. | |
Okay. | |
Hey, Don, Robert De Niro's fear, as well as the fear of the legacy media, is that if Trump gets another term, he will never leave office. | |
He will declare himself dictator for life. | |
Is this just hyperbole? | |
It seems to be outside of the Constitution. | |
It seems to be absolutely unprecedented. | |
With all due respect, your father is an older gentleman. | |
It seems like... You know how I know that wouldn't happen? | |
Go on. | |
It didn't happen the first time. | |
It didn't happen the first time. | |
I mean, it's not like... | |
You know, this time, he's gonna do it this, he didn't do it last time, but he's gonna, it's so ridiculous, and there's powers that would never, it would never happen anyway, right? | |
I think we've seen, you know, very clearly that, you know, the powers of the presidency can be limited, and are, and can frankly be manipulated. | |
They took what was the most powerful man in the world on paper at the time, and they threw him off of social media, and effectively canceled him, and lied about him, and have tried to jail him, and have find him You know, half a billion dollars for paying back banks on time, because he was actually a businessman prior to getting into that world. | |
I mean, it's so asinine. | |
Not because it's just asinine in general, but because we actually have evidence, similar to we have evidence of four years under this regime, and then four years under my father, and you can compare those things. | |
We know what's happened when his time was up in his first term. | |
I was on the plane with him. | |
We flew down to Mar-a-Lago. | |
We came down here. | |
I came back to my house. | |
That was it. | |
Oh, that was it, was it? | |
That was it. | |
Sorry, Junior, what happened in the days and weeks preceding that flight to Mar-a-Lago? | |
Because I seem to remember something about, you know, trying to install electors, you know, maybe initiating a little bit of a coup with the Capitol building, trying to start a war with Iran, basically doing everything he could to subvert the election results and remain in power. | |
That's the stuff that happened before that little flight. | |
Yeah, this isn't terribly surprising from Don Jr., given that he also insisted that the election was stolen, but does feel like maybe a little bit of selective memory on this score. | |
Just a little bit. | |
I feel like if people attempt crimes on you, Trump Jr., just because they don't actually accomplish the crime, you'll still be mad. | |
Like, that's what's amazing to me. | |
And this does, it's a little both sides-y, obviously not entirely, but like, just even a little bit. | |
But like, If you try a crime, that's still a crime. | |
Yeah! | |
Now, it's a lesser charge, it's a lesser offense, but attempting a crime is still an attempt at that crime. | |
Yeah! | |
And it's punishable. | |
We've all kind of agreed to that. | |
You don't get to stand there and be like, well, it didn't work. | |
That's not a defensible position. | |
That's I mean, that's like the main argument that seems like it's because it's obvious on its face. | |
If you are a hypocrite, right? | |
Like if you're like, well, no, I mean, I tried it. | |
Yeah, it's like I tried it didn't work. | |
What what are we talking about? | |
No, no, no. | |
Still a crime. | |
Still a crime! | |
Yeah, yeah. | |
Conspiracy to commit things and all of that stuff. | |
Attempted things. | |
You know, these are all still crimes. | |
Crimey crimes. | |
Yeah. | |
And the ElectorsRICO case, that's the one that's not coming any time soon. | |
That's the one that I'm interested in. | |
That's the big boy right there. | |
There's a lot of reasons why Trump getting elected would be bad. | |
But assuming that whatever power he could wield before in keeping from being prosecuted will, I mean, if he gets what he wants, yes, there'll be a lot of problems. | |
And I won't get the answers I want from that, that discovery and that subpoena. | |
I want to know that stuff. | |
So my curiosity is about like very, very, very, very far down that list, but it's still there. | |
It's still there. | |
Yeah, I agree. | |
I wanna know. | |
Me too. | |
Now, we have the final clip of the interview, but Junior does wanna fling a little bit of shit before he goes. | |
And so, you know, all of a sudden, it's going to be magically different. | |
Like, how many times are we going to fall for this? | |
It's going to be magical. | |
Apparently, MAGA people drove. | |
I would say that was a supportive... Yeah, this area is, yeah, it's very MAGA. | |
The jet ski seemed keen as well. | |
The jet ski seemed keen. | |
Hey, we may have to do it later on. | |
All right, I'm up for that. | |
Don, thank you so much because it's been a very sort of lucid appraisal about some of the bigger picture issues that pertain to the power that I fear most, which is a kind of global corporatist power. | |
And my own slow thawing around this issue has been based on if institutional power, both judicial and media, detests this man so deeply, While people appear to adore him, at least 50% of the population of your country, then something unusual is happening because I don't trust institutional power. | |
I don't trust technocrats and bureaucrats and technological feudalists. | |
So for me, it's like an opportunity to look at, well, where are the points of alliance and what does freedom and democracy look like in 2024? | |
By the way, take it further. | |
Look at Joe Biden. | |
I mean, he almost collapsed on the stage yet again today. | |
Did that happen today? | |
Yeah, at a D-Day anniversary celebration, he almost keeled over. | |
Does anyone actually believe, so that's the guy you elect? | |
You think that's the guy that's actually in power? | |
Right. | |
You don't think there's institutions as the marionette of this guy who can't find his way off the stage? | |
Not once. | |
Is he a dictator or not, then? | |
If this was happening to Trump, he's in the later stages of dementia and Alzheimer's combined. | |
He's clearly 25th Amendment. | |
We must get him out. | |
Joe Biden is very confident, folks. | |
He's, hey, we got to stop this. | |
I mean, it can't be. | |
No one actually believes that. | |
And yet, there is a power that is controlling it. | |
It is doing these things randomly. | |
He's signing off on whatever it is, the policies that have failed our country for the last four years. | |
That's pretty apparent, as evidenced by the economy, by wars, however you want to look at it. | |
So what's going on? | |
It's scary. | |
I mean, it's scary times. | |
Something extraordinary is happening that creates alliances like this. | |
there's an extraordinary amount of money is what's happening as well as being an audience that | |
welcomes sex offenders as well. Yeah, Biden didn't nearly fall over but he did look a bit confused | |
and appeared to be trying to reach down for something. Old man looks confused. | |
I'm shocked. | |
Yeah, he's super old. | |
He's super old. | |
He's super old and like one of the hardest jobs on your body. | |
Yeah, yeah. | |
And like, also there's compelling evidence that Donald Trump still occasionally thinks that Obama is still in power. | |
So like, honestly, fuck them both. | |
They're both too old. | |
Just get rid of them. | |
They're terrible. | |
Yeah, they're both they're both too old. | |
That's what's crazy is like, no one is like, so no one I say no one in my in, you know, in my media intake, and I try to stay abreast of also what doesn't agree with me also. | |
But like, for Don Jr. | |
to say like, I don't think anybody is arguing he's like super competent. | |
The references that are kind of like pro-Biden that I hear from legacy media or whatever, they reference his experience historically. | |
Yes. | |
They're like, oh, he's got all this experience. | |
He's so qualified. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
Maybe he was. | |
He'll still have had that experiences when he has passed away. | |
That's history. | |
I don't think either of them were competent to serve as presidents. | |
I don't. | |
Seems fair. | |
I don't know anyone who really does. | |
Yeah, yeah. | |
Yeah, there is a degree of just extreme elder abuse for both of these people. | |
I'm saying it! | |
And obviously, Junior here is putting out the notion that Biden is being controlled and handled and just signs off on what everyone else tells him to. | |
And again, cite your sources, buddy. | |
Also, who? | |
Who is in control of this? | |
Like, please be clear. | |
Is it Ukraine? | |
Is it China? | |
Is it the people around Biden? | |
All three? | |
Do elaborate. | |
Give me, please, specifics. | |
I will listen. | |
Anyway, that is the last that we're going to hear from Don Jr. | |
There's another ad break after this point and Russell goes and talks to Kim Guilfoyle, his partner who used to be married to Gavin Newsom, in case you didn't know. | |
So yeah, that was just a swell conversation, but also nothing terribly of interest was said, so there we go. | |
We don't need to worry about that either. | |
Yeah, Trump Jr. | |
Wow. | |
Wow. | |
Oh, also, before I forget, Florida Week took place during Russell's birthday. | |
So, you know, big celebration there. | |
But he also, he took a picture with his team on his birthday, which may help elucidate how many staff there are. | |
Now, there's no guarantee that he took his entire team, so it might not be everyone. | |
I'd imagine not. | |
Overseas, no. | |
Possibly not. | |
But yeah, his team consisted of six people, including Gareth. | |
So that was a small number. | |
Small numbers. | |
And I'm wondering if there's a part of me that's like, that might be the whole crew. | |
It could be. | |
It's possible. | |
It's feasible. | |
I mean, if he was paying a lot for representation, it would behoove him to trim the fat a little. | |
Yeah, certainly down from 21 or 22 or whatever it was. | |
That was, you know, that felt unnecessary at the time. | |
I mean, yeah, you're going to be taking it. | |
Well, but also there's been a bit of a quality dip, I feel. | |
Oh, yes. | |
As well. | |
So I think it's showing. | |
Man, oh man. | |
Yeah. | |
What's interesting to me is, and I need to make very clear, is manipulators will cop to the lesser crime. | |
They'll say, kind of that equivocating and turning the volume down, like, well, what really happened wasn't nearly as bad, but it wasn't a big deal anyway. | |
It's talking about how COVID-19 came from a lab. | |
Okay, well, then that should be why it's a very big deal. | |
Not less of a big deal. | |
Like, why do you care about the thing in this direction in this way? | |
And they can just keep keep it pumping. | |
They can just keep it moving. | |
So they don't have to reckon with any of that. | |
I cannot imagine what he talks about every day. | |
The nature of doing this podcast for me, it's more that I don't feel like I have, and I just genuinely don't. | |
It has changed my news habits, listening habits. | |
Not the subject, though. | |
It just means that I want to stay more informed. | |
And I'm not the person that has to learn about the thing and write the thing ahead of time. | |
And just participating in a podcast talking about politics, society, and culture, Completely like has honed a lot of maybe kind of gray areas in my understanding and I mean, I get that I choose to do that. | |
But, um. | |
I cannot, I don't think that he knows what he's talking about. | |
And it's super obvious. | |
The vagary is, you could drive a truck through every single one of the comments that I saw him make. | |
The holes are massive. | |
Yeah. | |
So what does he fucking talk about? | |
He's got a podcast? | |
What does he talk about? | |
Killing captive animals for fun? | |
Yeah, most of them, they're almost all interviews, so he can kind of, you know, pawn the focus off on the other people. | |
But that's what I'm saying, what do they talk about? | |
Is it all just Jordan Peterson? | |
Just the inanity and the Kermit sphere? | |
I don't know. | |
I didn't listen to any of the Michael Savage episodes. | |
I might give them a look. | |
I would. | |
You know what? | |
I would. | |
No, it sounds terrible. | |
I listened to Michael Savage on the radio in the car when I was young. | |
Getting stuck in cards game traffic, I remember very specifically. | |
And it was, what a different time. | |
What a different time. | |
Yeah. | |
Cause like, I wasn't really good about laughing at like, you know, like laughing at Alex Jones or whatever. | |
I was like, this isn't funny. | |
I'm a drip. | |
Like I'm a bad time at a party. | |
I'm cranky about this stuff. | |
I was right, but I was, Still cranky about it, but even young enough, there's like, oh yeah, Michael Savage, like, oh, this guy's wild. | |
Oh, geez. | |
Oh, man. | |
I think that he's probably, I don't know, he was already kind of old and cantankerous then. | |
Yeah. | |
I can't imagine. | |
Yeah. | |
I mean, it's amazing he's still kicking around. | |
It's impressive. | |
That's also kind of low on the guest getting. | |
You'd think that the son of a president Good enough to be sued. | |
Better be good enough to get a good, like, interesting interview on your podcast. | |
Savage is a frequent guest as well. | |
Like, he's on there, like, several times. | |
Like, he's, yeah. | |
Maybe he's in the stable. | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
Which is, yeah, strange. | |
Maybe he lives in the neighborhood. | |
Maybe. | |
Maybe it's just that. | |
Genuinely, like, in Florida, what are we even doing? | |
Yeah, it's true. | |
Just in terms of the... | |
I'm picturing that, it's just like he's walking the dog, and Don Jr's like, hey, my guy canceled, can you come over? | |
He's like, yeah, I gotta. | |
Yeah, let me put the dog away, I'll be over in 20. | |
I got some crazy shit to say, let's do it. | |
Yeah. | |
In terms of the quality dip, by the way, with his team, there was one thing that has tickled me for most of the last month that has now sadly changed, but it's in that vein. | |
Well, on the Rumble page, there's a pinned post at the top. | |
And normally that will change at the very least once a week to be like, you know, whoever the big interview is that week, but sometimes it'll be every day. | |
It'll be like the most recent one, but at the very least once a week. | |
Whereas, do you remember I mentioned the guy with the bowtie who was insisting that the WHO was a continuation of the East India Company? | |
That guy. | |
You know what? | |
The bowtie was less memorable, but now I do. | |
If you would have just said bowtie, wouldn't have known. | |
I remember that though. | |
His interview was pinned at the top of Russell's Rumble page for three and a half weeks. | |
I was like, this is great. | |
I'm so thrilled. | |
Listen, I know my last Instagram post was old. | |
Usually, guess what? | |
Listen, and this is evergreen content. | |
I know I don't post enough. | |
Nearly as much as I don't have time. | |
It's very hard. | |
Balancing everything and making this stuff and then also posting about it. | |
It's a challenge. | |
Now I am copping out a little bit. | |
I could do better. | |
Not sure how. | |
I could do better. | |
I'm working it out. | |
I'm just one poor, desperate chicken with head cut off individual. | |
Do your J-O-B. | |
Come on. | |
It was amazing. | |
That's about as old as my last post. | |
I was so thrilled. | |
My resources are different. | |
Because of that, it got nearly a million views. | |
I'm like, we may have to cover this at some point because it's now going to be important because they forced that many people to. | |
Do we want to have an early colonizer off? | |
Let's party. | |
Let's fucking go. | |
Oh, you want to talk about my wheelhouse? | |
Do we want to get into the 1600s? | |
Yes. | |
Yes, ma'am. | |
Yes, please. | |
Gimme. | |
Gimme. | |
I want. | |
Give. | |
Yah! | |
Well, yeah, so may very well just be those six people. | |
Oh dear, oh dear. | |
Anyway, yeah, that was Don Jr. | |
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