Host of The Livestream answers listener questions on church governance, advocating elder rule and corporate discipline while recommending specific seminaries like Westminster East. He addresses a European minister's move to the U.S., warns against weak leadership harming families, and interprets Deuteronomy 25:11 as affirming male dignity. The episode analyzes potential GOP civil war over Zionism, rejects supporting Nick Fuentes over Trump, and discusses marital dynamics where husbands correct wives as weaker vessels. Finally, hosts express skepticism about unverified Charlie Kirk assassination search data while urging strategic use of confirmed leftist mockery to crush enemies without compromising objective truth. [Automatically generated summary]
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Said thoughts on congregational model versus elder rule.
So this would be in the church.
The congregation making decisions versus the elders ruling.
Go ahead.
I don't know.
You want to go first on this one?
I've got so many thoughts.
I feel like by the time I start, and then there'll be nothing left for you to say.
You want to go first?
I would just say I've evolved on this very early on, it was very much for congregational rule and for all the reasons that.
I think they are true.
Peter talks about the priest of all believers.
Every believer has an equal standing before God.
It's not like, well, I'm a believer that's really smart.
So I actually, I'm better and I have a better salvation.
And so it can be very easy and it sounds nice.
Well, the congregation rules and the body of Christ makes the choice.
But the thing that sealed the deal for me as I thought about it, I'm like, well, here's the deal.
There's guys, they're the most biblically qualified, they're the most mature, hopefully, if they're the elders in the church.
This is their job if they're not bivocational.
If they are bivocational, they're paired some money.
But theoretically, this is their job.
They are the most mature.
They are the most biblically faithful.
Like, those seem to be the men I would want to trust to make the decision.
And even I can recognize and say, hey, they might make a decision that I disagree with, or, you know, that kind of implies maybe that I'm not the most biblically mature in the church.
But for the health of the church, would you not want the most qualified men, generally speaking, 80, 90% of decisions saying, we're not going to go ahead and open it up for everyone?
We're going to go ahead and make the decision because you've trusted us.
Every member of the church has gone in and said, I trust the elders of this church.
To shepherd me and my family.
So if you don't trust them, then you shouldn't be going to the church in general.
But if you do trust them, I don't feel like elder rule is a bad thing at all.
Right.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
Yeah.
If you don't trust your elders, then you should make sure that the church is congregational.
No, you should find another church.
If you don't trust the pastors of the church, either you're wrong or they're wrong, but in either case, you shouldn't be there, right?
So they're solid guys and you just have trust issues.
Well, you're going to be a pain.
You're going to be a liability.
Or they're not actually solid guys.
Your discernment is on point, in which case, why would you go to a church that doesn't have solid Elders.
So, yeah, the solution is defined into the church where you do trust the leadership.
I think hierarchy is just inescapable.
It's just the way that God built the world.
And I've realized over time, you know, same as Wes, I've kind of evolved on this issue as well.
I've just realized over time that a lot of our theology is kind of eisegesis.
You know, you kind of impose on the text of Scripture your modernity, your democracy, your Western American kind of mentality.
And I don't know if that's really in the text.
The best text that I could think of, you know, that would advocate, I'll give a couple, you know, Playing the devil's advocate, steel manning the congregational position.
One would be Matthew 18, right?
So, you know, if your brother sins against you, go to your brother, just you and him alone.
If he listens to you, then you've won your brother over.
If he does not listen, then bring along with you one or two others so that the testimony may be established in the presence of two or three witnesses.
If he does not listen to them, then tell it to the church.
And if he does not listen to the church, then treat him as a tax collector or a Gentile.
So that final step along the way, Heading towards excommunication, God forbid, when it's necessary, nobody likes it, but sometimes it has to be done.
The final stop along the way is eventually it elevates to the church.
And I don't think that you can just read in, you know, church leaders.
I think the church means church.
And so I think it's actually the ecclesia, the gathering, the congregation that you're telling the matter to.
And the big thing here is you're not just informing, right?
So if you're looking at the text plainly, you're not just informing the church of a decision that's already been rendered by the leadership.
But you're actually telling the church, not the decision, you're telling the church the matter, right?
Not telling them the decision, but the matter.
Tell it to the church, and, right, this is how we can come to this conclusion that you're telling the church the matter rather than just relaying to the church a decision to excommunicate that's already been made.
You're telling the church the matter.
And the reason why we know that that's what the text is getting at is because it continues by saying, Tell it to the church, and if he does not listen to the church, then treat him as a tax collector and a Gentile, which means.
And the same way that the two or three are not excommunicating, right?
This kind of fiat decision in the second step, right?
Bring one or two along with you.
And the same way that you can't go rogue as an individual the first time that you're confronting someone, and I have declared from on high by fiat decision, you are excommunicated from the church.
No, you can't do that.
You go privately, just you and the individual.
And the hope is you're not telling the individual, hey, you're out, you're excommunicated.
You're telling them the offense and seeing if they might.
Come to reason if they might be repentant, and if they're not, then you're bringing one or two others along with you to weigh, right?
Because you might have taken up a wrong offense, you might actually be in the wrong, and so the one or two are coming in as witnesses to hear out the defense, hear out the offense, and then hear out the defense of the individual that you're accusing to weigh that.
The assumption is if that person really is in the wrong, the one who gave the initial offense.
Well, now you've corrected, you've confronted this individual twice, and he has continued to not be repentant.
And so now you're telling it to the church.
And in telling the church, it seems like what you're doing is you're commissioning the church to then pursue that individual through prayer, through corporate confrontation.
You're commissioning the church not yet to excommunicate, but to, for some allotted period of time, to pursue the individual and pray for the individual that they might.
Be won over that they might come to repentance, and after a period of time, an appropriate period of time has passed, if the individual remains impenitent, then he is handed over, treated as a tax collector and a Gentile.
So, my point is that process, Matthew 18, church discipline, it very clearly involves the church.
And so that's one that's difficult for me.
Also, you know, I think of that pairing with the Old Testament, the congregation of Israel wandering in the wilderness and the law of Moses that's given at that time.
When it came to corporal punishment, it was a corporate event, it was communal.
Your eye shall not pity, and you're going to stone him together.
We even took basic.
Principles like in our case law system and penalties that we applied from, you know, Deuteronomy, from Leviticus, from Numbers.
And one of the things that, you know, that we would do hanging for capital punishment was common in Western civilization, but also firing squads.
And one of the purposes of a firing squad is so that no one individual bears the full guilt on their conscience for ending the life of another man, right?
So you have whatever it is, 10 guys, 20 guys lined up, rifles pointed at the individual, and they all shoot, and nobody really knows exactly who killed them.
Nobody knows I'm the one who put him to death.
Well, stoning was similar in the Old Testament.
You're all grabbing a stone, and nobody can really say for sure this guy killed him.
It's this corporate communal act that nobody really wants to do, but they know that justice must be served.
And so they're carrying it out.
And when we get to the New Testament and speaking covenantally, it seems as though excommunication functions along that same principle.
It's not a physical punishment, but it is a spiritual, but still corporate handing over.
The church is handing this man over.
You can also look at 1 Corinthians 5, which would be another example.
Expel or purge the immoral man from among you.
Paul is commissioning the church.
He's not just writing to the leaders, but he's speaking to the whole congregation there at Corinth.
Another example would be Acts 6, right?
When it comes to the installing, ordaining of deacons, seven men filled with the Holy Spirit there at the church in Jerusalem, it seems as though.
You have the elders of the church of Jerusalem who are commissioning not just leaders, but they're actually commissioning the whole congregation.
They're saying, You bring us men of this caliber.
How many of them?
Seven.
What kind of men?
Filled with the Holy Spirit and endowed with wisdom.
For what task?
My point is, it's the elders, it's the leadership that sets the number of men?
Seven.
The timing of when they're called forth?
We need them now, not six months ago, not six months from now.
So, the elders, the leadership gets to determine how many men do we need?
When do we need the men?
What kind of men do we need?
The criteria, qualifications for these men, and for what purpose are these men going to be installed?
None of that's congregational.
The Church of Jerusalem is not determining, they don't go to the elders and say, Elders, you find us seven men of this caliber for this task at this time.
No, it's the other way around, completely the opposite.
So, it's the leadership of the church that determines we need deacons.
This is kind of the origin of the diaconate.
So we need diggings.
This is when we need them.
This is what they should be like.
This is how many we need them, how many of them we need.
And this is the task, the purpose for which we need them.
All that's determined by the leadership.
It's the congregation that simply is sifting through.
And here's the deal it's not explicit, but I think this is kind of a necessary or at least plausible inference from the text.
It's certainly implicit.
What do you think the elders of Jerusalem would have done?
If the congregation of the church there brought to them seven men who were filled with stupidity.
All right, seven dweebs, seven losers, seven licentious men.
Do you think they would have said, Well, we got to honor the congregation, priest of all believers?
Or do you think they would have just looked and said, Try again?
Yeah.
Try again.
So, this idea of our sacred democracy, kind of from an American political context, read in exegesis into the biblical text as though it's like infallible.
Gospel truth, and that the text can't be read any other way without minimizing the priesthood of all believers.
The priesthood of all believers, guys, I mean, that's a Protestant view.
Presbyterians hold that, Episcopalians hold that, Anglicans hold that.
The priesthood of all believers is the idea that you can go to the Father through Christ, right?
There's one God and one mediator between man and God, the God, man, Christ Jesus.
The priesthood of all believers is the idea that you don't need to be absolved of your sins by a human mediator.
But to say that the priesthood of all believers necessitates, it mandates ecclesiastical polity and authority for making decisions in the church is maybe, but to just say that emphatically as though it's obvious, I think that that's a bit of a stretch.
So those would be the texts that have been used to point towards congregationalism.
There are others, but those are some of the big ones.
But then I guess some of the pushback, we could look at other texts, but I've already run long on this answer.
But the biggest pushback I would give is just from nature itself.
The world that God made is a hierarchical world, it's not an egalitarian world.
And so I think that if you do have any aspect of congregational polity in your church, which our church does, I think it needs to be really few and far between.
It needs to be mitigated by strong elders.
It does not need to be congregational votes on the carpet.
Right.
Right.
It does not need to be congregational votes on this, that, and the other.
It needs to be sparing.
And if I was to hold on to just one kind of my Baptist polity hangover, kind of, I can't let go of one.
The one that I would probably hold on to more than ordaining officers of the church, both elders and deacons, as significant as that is, certainly more than the budget.
Right.
I can see the prudence in that, but there's no verse in the Bible.
That says the congregation gets to determine the budget.
There's things that you can do.
But in terms of if there's anything in the Bible that maybe you must do congregationally, I think it would be exclusively excommunication.
I think that's the one that I even, as much as I'm like, I think I'm a hierarchy guy.
Like, get this democracy out of my face.
It ruined my country.
I'd like for it not to ruin my church.
As much as I am leaning towards that these days, The one piece that I still kind of hold on to is, man, Matthew 18, tell it to the church.
I do really struggle for that to be a fiat decision exclusively from the elders on high where the congregation has no say in it.
So if there's anything that you're like, well, surely there's some congregational piece, if there's anything at all, I think I would say it's Matthew 18, it's excommunication.
And I would draw that even to the Old Testament that's already had this communal aspect of corporal punishment.
Be it stoning or whatever.
I think that both from the old to the new, you can find that communal corporate principle concept when it comes to we're handing this man over.
Whether it's in a justice system with capital punishment, or whether it's in the spiritual ecclesiastical system, handing his soul over to Satan that he might be taught not to blaspheme.
I think if there's anything that's congregational, it's that.
Everything else, though, if elders appoint other elders, you might not like it.
But to say that's just clearly unbiblical and sin, that's a hard case to make.
If the elders determine the budget for the church and you don't like it, Um, you may not like it, but that's it's a hard case to say this is sin, it's blatantly wrong.
There's my answer.
Let's keep going.
King Jerd sent five dollars.
You just said, Here's five dollars more.
That answer was worth way more than two dollars.
I'm in an elder ruled church, and I think this is the way to go.
Yeah, I do.
It's like if you don't like elder rule, you probably just don't like your elders.
And if you don't like your elders, either you need to change or you need to leave.
Yep, TJ Lucassen sent five dollars.
Thanks, DJ.
Related, so related to this question about congregational versus elder rule.
If a church does hold to a congregational model, should the women be permitted to vote on none, some, all matters of church life?
And I would offer on church discipline, for example, men are charged in society with administering violence.
So you think about the firing squad, and that's not, well, we need equality here, right?
50 50 men and women make up firing squad.
Good point.
When you hand someone over to Satan, that is an act of violence.
The spiritual sword, the word of God, casts them out to be handed over for the destruction of their body.
And so I can just say for myself, I would say no.
The men do that type of voting.
I agree.
So, a lot of Baptist churches, you know, and that's where it gets, you know, I think a little bit retarded when it's like, okay, well, every Baptist, you know, baptized believer, right?
Because with, you know, credo baptism and the Baptist polity, it's every baptized believer.
Because if your whole impetus in your defense of congregationalism is the priesthood of all believers, not just adult believers, but any believer, well, then it comes down to like, okay, well, Who's all been baptized?
It's like, well, little Susie, she's seven years old.
And that's where, then you start getting weird and you got your Mark Devers.
When Mark Devers isn't pushing liberal politics, when he shifts gears for a second, he's like, hey, I've been really focusing on ruining the country culturally and politically, but I'm going to take a little fiesta and talk about church polity for a second.
Well, that's where, not Mars Hill, but what's the name of Capitol Hill Baptist?
That's where they would make the argument for, well, then that's why you don't baptize anybody until they're 18 years or older.
But that's like, that's crazy.
Like, the Holy Spirit doesn't, like, that may be your policy.
Is that God's policy?
Does the Holy Spirit not ever regenerate any person before 18 years of age?
And if He does save people from their youth, I'm thinking of David, you know, like, He's like, from my mother's breast, did I trust you?
Like, if the Holy Spirit does save people at times young, then you're withholding the sacrament of baptism and the Lord's Supper from an individual potentially for a decade.
I mean, think about that.
God saves someone at eight, and it's like, I'm sorry, you love the Lord, you've been born again, and these signs and seals of the new covenant, we will withhold them from you without any biblical merit whatsoever for a decade, strictly arbitrarily, just based on your age.
And when you get to it, it's like, well, why?
A big reason, it's the fine print, they don't always say it out loud, but a big reason is because we don't want eight year olds voting.
And so it's like, okay, well, then you have two choices.
One is You can withhold the sacraments that is their right by virtue of being born again by the blood of Christ.
And you've opted for that.
That's not a great choice.
The other solution would be why don't you just stop all the gay democracy voting?
Why don't you just stop being egalitarians?
Why don't you just, you know, like you could just do that.
So, all that being said, if there is a vote on anything, I personally think it would be excommunication, congregational vote.
And with that, I think it's perfectly permissible and prudent.
And I think we could make a biblical argument that that should be a head of household male vote.
And then, with that, I'll add one caveat, one more caveat.
I don't like, all right.
So, like, I believe, you know, don't quote me on this because if I'm wrong, then I'll just immediately retract it because I'm not going to dig my heels in the sand and unnecessarily slander someone.
All right.
But I believe Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, Doug Wilson's church, I know they're head of household when it comes to voting, but I believe that they will count a single woman if her parents aren't a part of the church.
So, let's say she moved there, her parents live, you know, whatever, in Kansas, and she's been there and she becomes a member.
But she's not yet married, that she would count as the head of her own household.
I believe that's the policy.
If I'm wrong about that, then I apologize.
But I know there are some churches out there that do that.
And I'm just trying to name one that's notable that people would think of.
And this is what I don't like I don't like the idea of a 55 year old man, blue collar, has been loving and serving the Lord for 40 years.
He builds houses, he provides for his family, he has an adoring wife and eight children.
And a 22 year old single woman can make his vote awash by saying, I don't like it.
Icky.
Those two households, right?
Not all households are equal, turns out, I guess is what I'm saying.
Well, every household is, nope, no, not all households are equal.
So, you know, for us, with a few things that we do vote on, we function like so functionally, it is a household vote.
However, we weight the households effectively.
We weight them in terms of fruitfulness, meaning every baptized member of that particular household bolsters that head of household, father, his vote.
So if we have a household with eight children, all eight of them are baptized, and then you've got the husband and the wife, then that household gets 10 votes.
And so that's one thing that we've done.
But again, a lot of that is kind of, and I'm willing to admit this, you can make fun of me, that's fine.
I'm trying to be honest with you and be humble about it.
But a lot of that is just kind of my Baptist hangover.
And I'm not necessarily convinced it's right.
If there's anything that I feel most convicted of, it would be congregational vote on one issue only, namely excommunication.
And in that, still in that, a household vote and some system.
I don't know exactly how to do it.
So I'm not going to hang, you know, Bet the house on this, but I just have this sense, this sick sense that the household vote somehow needs to be weighted.
You know, number one, I would just say, you know, the 22 year old woman is not the head of her household.
Her father is still head of her household.
And the fact that she lives 1,200 miles away from him is just the fact that our country is cooked and that we no longer value households.
But I don't think we need to say, well, she gets a vote because our country is wrecked and now we have, you know, 22 year old women.
We got to keep it going, pay it forward.
Exactly.
We don't have to do that.
So, at minimum, I would just say, yeah, the single woman is not, doesn't get a household vote because she's a part of her father's household and her father lives somewhere else and goes to another church.
So she can attend the church and, you know, and be faithful in many ways and be loved by the church, served by the church.
But no, she's not a household.
So then it just comes down to the male vote, heads of households.
But even then, I think like the 23 year old guy who just got married last week, God bless him, he is a head of a household.
I don't know if his vote should carry the same weight to, you know, Mr. Johnson, who again is 55 and has a baptized children.
So I don't know, that's where I'm at.
All right, next.
All right, a $2 super chat from, can we scroll up a little bit?
Okay, I'll get to that one in a second.
J A H A 3, where are the Baptist Isker land communities?
So this is a reference to Ridge Runner out in Tennessee.
The Baptist versions do not exist.
I will say there are a lot of Baptists at Ridge Runner.
I think Josh Abitoy, one of the managing directors, he's a Baptist.
I know good Baptist brothers that are there.
So Baptists are in Isker's land community.
Well, closer, closest would actually be.
Just to give him a shout out, he's a great guy.
Jeff Wright.
Okay.
So, Jeff Wright is, he's not there.
He's not a part of that project and that development.
So, he's not on the ground.
But I believe his church is.
I think he's like 20, 30 minutes away.
Yes, like 20, 30 minutes away.
So, I think that's kind of been like, you know, they have big vision in the future.
They probably would plant a Baptist church and all those kinds of things.
For now, it's Presbyterian.
Andrew Isker, I think, has considered the CREC and considers some other things.
So, right now they're independent, but they are Presbyterian.
CJ Engels, you know, probably in his ear, you know, saying Anglican, Anglican.
But they are Presbyterian and still, I think, you know, determining who to formally affiliate with in the future.
I'm sure there'll be a Baptist church there in the town on the ground.
But for now, I'm pretty sure Josh Abitoy and others have said this, and Isker has said this that, you know, the interim solution for the Baptists, if they just can't go, they should, if you're Baptist, you should go to Isker's church.
But if you just can't, but you want to live there and be a part of the project in Tennessee, Then drive for 25, 30 minutes and go to Jeff Wright's church because Jeff is great.
And there are, like I said, other Baptists that attend Isker's church.
I know of them.
Great guys.
Logan sent a $50 super chat.
All right, Logan.
Super generous, super kind, Logan.
Thank you so much.
He said, This, I'm a 23 year old male looking to go into seminary and want to know if you guys have any particular seminaries you would recommend, GBTS or Southwestern.
We had someone who asked something very similar.
I think you gave a very good answer for one just do you need to go to seminary?
And there are good reasons, and one of them being.
The credentials.
Credentialism.
It is worthwhile.
It's real.
I wish it wasn't, but it is.
And honestly, I say I wish it wasn't.
We need that.
I can't go on WebMD and pretend to be a doctor every time I'm sick just because all the medical institutions have discredited themselves and proven to be a bunch of liars back in 2020 with COVID.
The Crisis of Trust in Experts00:02:29
The fact that we are currently in a moment where we basically have some experts, but we don't trust any of them.
That's not a W. That's not a win.
A society our size, 330 million people, with basically no credible institutions and no experts that can be relied on, to where everybody has to be proficient in everything.
So I've got to learn how to make my own shoes and I've got to learn how to sew and I got to homestead and grow all my own food because I don't trust the grocery stores.
Because I watched a clip by Ian Carroll telling me all the different chemicals inside of them, and there's crop dusting.
So I got to build a glass dome above my land to protect me.
That is not a good thing.
And I'm not, just for the record, I'm not saying like you're conspiratorial and making fun of you.
I would be kind of on the side of the conspiracist.
I do.
I mean, there are some massive problems.
But at the end of the day, a functioning, healthy society has experts, it has institutions, and therefore we're not there right now because the whole system is broken.
But one day, I can take it to the bank.
I can promise you we're not going to enter a prolonged, maybe temperate, but we're not going to enter into a millennia of.
Of just, you know, every man for himself, and we don't have any leaders, and we don't have hierarchy, and we don't have institutions, and we don't have experts.
That just, the human race would be dead by that time.
So we're like, we're in an interim period where the previous institutions have discredited themselves, but new ones will, they'll either be reformed or new ones will come up in their place.
One of those things will happen.
It will happen relatively quickly.
It may take a decade, it may take two, but it's going to happen relatively quickly.
It's not going to be centuries.
And when it happens, guess what?
Just like credentials mattered before, credentials will matter again because they always have.
They always have.
And so, no matter how gifted you are, how talented, how much charisma, this, that, and the other, you're not going to be Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk is a rare example of the guy who didn't go to college and was just super gifted and did some great things.
But for every Charlie Kirk, there's like a million other guys who are gifted but didn't have credentials, and you'll never know their name because they didn't make it big, they weren't successful.
The Enduring Power of Credentials00:06:13
You can look at the lay of the land.
Look at the people, movers and shakers.
The guy's actually influencing society.
And you will find 90% of the time, the common denominator is oh, this guy who's not constantly pointing it out.
He's not bragging about it.
He's not talking about it.
It's like, it's just, it really is his mind.
It's his ideas.
It's his charisma.
It's his giftings.
Oh, but, you know, it turns out he went to an Ivy League school.
Oh, and this other guy who I really like his mind and his ideas and his charisma and like, And he just happened coincidentally also to go to an Ivy League school.
And this other guy, like, and then you start to, you know, we're in the noticing business here with Right Response Ministries.
One of the patterns you start to notice is maybe it's not a coincidence.
Maybe that Ivy League school, even if it's for a degree and you end up going in a whole other direction in a different field, that just the status of being able to check that box, maybe that is, even if people don't say it out loud, still in our society today, an unspoken prerequisite.
For a certain degree of ascendancy and influence.
And the reality is, yeah, that's how it works.
Yep.
And so to give some specific names, they asked GBTS, that's Grace Bible Theological Seminary out in Arizona, Southwestern, that's a Southern Baptist, I would say to either of those, Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary.
I've got Baptist friends who have gone.
They've said really good things.
It's going to have some women there.
They can't take the theological studies, so the pastoral track.
So they're going to have women there.
They're not going to be programs that are completely aligned.
Westminster East, you're going to get a good theological education.
And when it comes to credentials, having Westminster on your resume, having Greenville Presbyterian on your resume, like it's good.
Are you talking about Philadelphia?
Like John's talking about Philadelphia, not Westminster West.
Yeah, don't do Westminster West.
Don't do Escondido.
But keep your head down.
Don't, don't like, you're not there to be a culture warrior.
If you really want to learn, you're like, I want to be a theologian just as a career or the pastor theologian, go there and get a good education.
But just recognize they're not going to be talking about patriarchy the way that we in Ogden do.
You're there to learn Greek.
You're there to read old theologians.
We're not in Ogden.
Us, Ogden.
We in Ogden.
Oh, I thought you said we in Ogden.
We in Ogden.
No, you're absolutely right.
And so, with that, like my point combined with what you're saying, Wes, is yes, part of it is the education.
You will be challenged.
There are certain things you'll have to, like, just utterly reject and do it with your head down, hide your power levels, and go along to get along.
Don't get kicked out.
So, there's some things you'll have to quietly, respectfully reject.
But there's a lot of things that you will learn that are objectively true and good.
So, there's the literal education piece.
But what I'm saying is, even beyond that, there's also just the status piece.
So, like, there is, it's like, it's frustrating, you know, like, because it's like, well, you went to this school and, like, okay, tell me how you really feel about it.
Well, what I really feel about it is that this institution, it's really sad.
They're completely compromised.
They're not holding to this or holding to that.
And it's like, then why did you go?
Well, the only reason you're listening to me right now give this particular talk on why this school is like, is because I have it on my resume.
Like, that's just the way of the world.
So, all of it back to the question, I think a lot of it depends, honestly, it depends on what you feel called to do.
Like, what is the vocation that you feel like God has placed in your heart?
Because, you know, there's a lot of things that you can do.
You can do successfully, you can do joyfully, you can, you know, like, you can do well that don't require credentials, you know, like high level credentials.
But if you feel called to be, you know, Functioning at a high capacity and leader of men and these kinds of things and shaping future direction and thought and be a part of a think tank or whatever, something,
run for office, then yeah, that four years or seven years, whatever it ends up being, of having to put down your head and hide your power levels and be annoyed pretty much every day for a few years of your life will be worth it because.
That credential will function as a prerequisite that opens certain doors that other guys without it will not be able to walk through.
I haven't mentioned it in a while, but I went to Columbia.
I went to an Ivy League.
One of my first writing classes, I remember, was a Freudian analysis of a gay man describing the melancholy of losing the innocence before HIV and they could be promiscuous without limit.
Like in one of my first writing classes, I'm a Christian, I'm all of these things, and I'm having to write a paper on that.
But going to Columbia, graduating from there, gave me access and opened every door that opened in my life since then.
I kept my head down.
I did the class, I passed it.
And it was so worth it.
So, if that's what you really want to do, that's what God has really called you to do, go somewhere and get a good school on your resume.
Yep.
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Wes, you take it.
You gave it to me for that pronunciation that I've got to do.
Chozi, Chozi.
It's Chozi Ayub.
First response would be this Yes, yes, yes.
Chozi Ayub.
But please, sir, pray, tell me, what is your Christian name?
Well, he says this.
He says, I'm a Palestinian Christian.
He said $5.
Thank you, Chozi.
Palestinian Christian.
Praise God.
Living in the U.S.
Okay.
You made it.
How can we destroy Zionism before it destroys the world?
Would love to be on your podcast or vice versa.
Cool.
Nate, do me a favor, real quick.
Check out Chozy.
Look him up on YouTube.
Does he have a podcast?
What does he do?
Does he have a following?
Those kinds of things.
Look him up.
You'll have about two hours while we answer how to stop Zionism before it destroys the world.
So we'll consider it.
So, first and foremost, tongue in cheek, just giving you a hard time.
Chozy Ayub is probably not in the Civil War registry, but to be fair, neither is Webbin.
It hurts.
It hurts.
But I have been here multiple generations.
Praise God.
But first and foremost, keyword, not Palestinian.
That's not the keyword, but Christian.
Love that.
So, brother in Christ, God bless you.
Thanks for giving us a little bit of support.
We appreciate that.
That's very kind.
Ending Zionism, you're on the right channel with you there 100%.
And the fact that he's a Christian Palestinian.
Now, granted, he's not living in Palestine, he's here in the US, but Christian Palestinian turns out, You wouldn't know it listening to Mike Huckabee or somebody like that, but a Palestinian Christian, many such cases.
Yeah.
Many such cases.
There are a lot of Palestinians who are not Muslim.
Many are, many are.
But there are a lot who love the Lord Jesus Christ and are Christians.
And it is absolutely tragic what has been done to many of them.
On one hand, it's like they're fighting two enemies on both sides, right?
On one hand, it's Muslims.
You know, their own people mistreating them, persecuting them.
But on the other hand, it's Israel.
And you're right, Zionism has to be stopped.
What do we do?
Well, we've got, honestly, I can't even answer the question.
We're going to have to, like, we're just going to have to skip forward.
I can't answer the, and this is why.
Because I actually have some really, not because I have some vague, ambiguous answer and I don't have a roadmap.
I actually have really specific answers to this question, but it's going to be a surprise.
It's going to be unveiled.
We have like, I can't, like, I know everybody says it.
So it's just, I don't even want to say it because it just feels cliche.
It feels like nobody's going to believe me.
So, like, why even say it?
But I'll say it January 2026.
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We are going to be unveiling.
Everybody says, oh, you know, we have new vision, you know, blah, blah.
I'm telling you guys.
Big things.
Massive.
Like, not like, oh man, that's like one of the biggest things in the reformed world.
The reformed world, like the proper term is reformed ghetto.
Reformed tradition will always be my home.
That is my conviction.
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Brown Anglo Saxon Protestants and 499.
Thank you, sir.
He said this my kids have never been without.
Praise God.
Yes, praise God.
How do I practically teach them humility before they feel entitled to things they're still young?
Probably all of us growing up at some point, there was a time when we didn't want to eat our dinner and our parents came in and said, Do you know?
There are children starving in Africa, to which the correct response is, Well, I'd be happy to pack this up and ship it to them.
There's a way when you have a lot of privilege to kind of by comparison.
So say, Well, you have a lot, and what I'm going to force you to do is compare to other people.
Don't you see how much you have?
And I'll be honest, I don't know if in my life and other people's lives I've seen that worked.
And so if your children are really blessed and you have a lot, I think the key to instill maybe not necessarily humility or hard work as the forefront, but thankfulness.
You have these things.
And actually, you, my son, my daughter, You didn't work for them.
Your dad did.
Or maybe we got an inheritance and your grandfather did.
And yes, humility and yes, hard work, those are good.
But the key thing to learn from this you don't go without.
You have great food.
You have a great home is thankfulness.
You didn't do anything to receive it.
What do you have that you have not received from God?
You didn't do anything to receive it, but you're benefiting from it.
And the people that worked hard to give it to you, what you can actually return to them most is thank you for what you did.
Well said.
I remember talking to an older Christian woman one time and we were talking about Christmas and.
How her family, how they celebrated Christmas when the children were younger and still in the home.
And I asked, Did you guys, you know, did you do Santa or not?
And she said no.
And I asked her why, just because I was curious, not because I was against her position or anything like that, but just, you know, why?
And her first answer was not like, Well, it's about Jesus and not about Santa, right?
Because it's like, Okay, well, let's talk about Saint Nick then, you know?
Yeah.
Like, there is a Christian heritage and history to Santa and Christmas and all these things.
And Jesus, his birth is, of course, preeminent.
But St. Nicholas, there's something to be said for that.
But that wasn't her answer.
You know, when she said, No, we did not observe Santa, it wasn't, she didn't say, Because we didn't know about St. Nick and, you know, or because it's all commercialized Christmas these days and blah, blah.
No, her answer, and she didn't skip a beat.
I was really impressed.
Still to this day, I think about it.
Really impressive answer.
She said, Because my husband worked hard.
Why did you not teach your kids about Santa and that they got gifts from Santa?
Because my husband, their father, worked hard.
And I was not going to accredit his hard work and his generosity to a magical man that doesn't exist.
You know, and I felt like that's a pretty good answer, you know, like especially coming from a wife who is honoring her husband and his hard work.
And his generosity towards the family.
I thought that that was a really honorable answer.
And so, anyways, the same concept that Wes is saying, that's just a story to illustrate it.
I don't have a hard line on Santa.
Like our kids, we talk about Santa, but they know that Santa is not real in terms of a magical guy who lives in the North Pole right now, today with flying reindeer.
They know that that's not real.
But they also know about St. Nicholas and that he's worthy of honor.
And then, of course, they know that Christmas is first and foremost about.
The birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
But Santa, it's fun and it's a part of our celebration, you know, in various ways.
But very clear that it's first and foremost about Jesus.
And our children know that when it comes to the presence, the presence comes from dad.
Dad, for all intents and purposes, dad is Santa.
Ho, ho, ho.
Here I am.
Presents come from dad.
And that's because the Bible is very clear that we are to give honor where honor is due.
And so you're right.
It's not.
Well, appreciate your dinner because people in Ethiopia are starving.
No, it's appreciate your dinner because dad clocked in 50, 60 hours this week to make that food appear on the table.
And mom slaved over the kitchen and the oven to translate dad's money into a meal.
And so it's gratitude.
I think that's good.
All right.
All right.
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Male 23 here, married to a Minnesota lady.
What would you say to someone like me?
Who felt called to the USA when I was 19 for ministry?
I am European.
And so it sounds like he would still be European.
Four years ago, he felt called to ministry in the United States.
He's married to a woman who is in the United States, but from what I'm telling, probably not living in the United States.
So lives in Europe, felt a calling to the United States, married someone from the United States, but doesn't live there yet, and specifically a call to minister.
So would you assume that his wife from Minnesota lives with him in Europe?
That's what I think.
Okay, great.
Married to a Minnesota lady, he says, I am European.
All right.
I would say, what giftings has God given you?
Do you speak?
I mean, he's writing it in English.
Do you speak fluent English?
Could your job translate over to there?
Could you live near your wife's family, for instance?
Do you have connections?
If all of those are there and her family's there and you felt a calling, that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
If you're putting this into Google Translate, if you have a blue collar job in Europe, if your wife's family wouldn't be people that you would live around or they live in Minnesota where not the greatest place to raise a family, then actually God's probably not calling you there.
So take an assessment.
What do I have?
What has God given me?
What would I be able to do?
And say, does this seem to lean towards I would land great, I'd be able to have an effective ministry, and it would go well?
Or, yeah, actually, I'm not equipped to make the move.
I'm not equipped to speak the language.
I'm not equipped to understand the landscape, and I can't do it.
Without knowing more, that's the best that I'd be able to say.
Yeah, that's a good answer.
The fact that your wife is actually born and raised a United States citizen, that's the only thing that, to me, makes it where it really is a legitimate question.
If it wasn't for that, if it was like me and my wife were both, you know, Whatever, British, you know, or French.
And we currently live, you know, in England or France, both born and raised.
But we feel a call to be missionaries to the United States.
I, you know, and I would say, nah, I don't think so.
Not because the United States doesn't need help.
We do.
But I'll be honest, you know who really needs some help?
Europe.
America, like, America's, we're not doing so hot.
America sucks.
But America looks like heaven on earth compared to Europe.
Yeah.
And so I don't know.
If I was you, I don't want to impute motives.
God knows your heart.
I don't.
But I would be, you know, at this current moment in time, knowing what's happening in Europe and knowing where we're at in America, I would be asking some of those questions of like, what are my motives?
Is it, I really feel called to minister to Americans and I feel like God's uniquely gifted me to do such?
Or is it, I just want to move out of, you know, a Muslim country.
Right.
And Europe, because Europe is cooked and we gave up our Christian civilizations.
And I'm really just looking for an out.
That would be one of the questions that I would be asking.
But the fact that your wife is American, then I feel like you could go either way.
You know, you've got a husband, you've got a wife, you know, she's a citizen in America, you're a citizen in whatever European country.
And so, because of that, like, I mean, I think that you could, you know, biblically speaking, like you could live either place and have.
You know, just as much of a claim.
All right.
Fair.
Kodak Joe, he sent two super chats, and I think referencing the same situation, a longtime supporter, he sent $2 twice.
So thanks, Kodak.
He said, This, I don't trust my elders, but the church is a true one.
And then followed it up, I see it more as a mission field thoughts.
And so I think he's saying, I see my church as a mission field.
It's a true church.
There's real believers here.
I don't also trust my elders' zone.
So I see myself kind of, I have some disagreements with leadership, but there's opportunity for me to disciple, to witness, to interact with people here at the church.
Is that the question?
Is thoughts about that?
Yeah, I just think thoughts about that situation.
I don't trust my elders, but I think there's a lot of opportunity here to do that.
My first thought is what's your family like, right?
So if this is a single man, okay, then maybe you can be undercover and do your reconnaissance work and make a difference.
But if you're a married man, and I mean, that right there, even if you don't have kids, right, that would be the next level.
But if you have a wife, that like, here's the thing like, so you might be extraordinarily resilient.
To the long housing methods of your elders.
But that doesn't mean that your wife is going to have that same resilience.
So, what's going to happen when you continue to red pill, you want to return, as the kids say, and you're like, man, as for me in my house, we're going to hold to these convictions and we're going to do this and X, Y, and Z. What happens the moment that you go a little bit too far and your wife is no longer with you?
That you've upset her, you've aggravated your spouse, and the entire community that you're in and the spiritual leadership that you're currently under, you know, without a shadow of a doubt, will 100% side with your wife against you.
They will actually affirm your wife in her rebellion against your husbandly authority.
And then kids would just, same concept.
You know, nth degree, you know, what are your kids hearing?
Right?
What is the steady diet from the pulpit?
What are they being taught?
So you might have a lot of opportunities as a mature Christian man in that context to minister to others in this, you know, in this moment of kind of a theological famine in your church where the elders are subpar.
But it's kind of, Kind of like the public school argument.
You know, it's like, well, we're going to send our kids to public school to be missionaries.
Like kids aren't, you know, five year olds aren't missionaries.
Seven year olds, eight year olds, 10 year olds are not missionaries.
Our children, we were not called to send them to the slaughter.
Our children were called to protect, to hedge, to defend, and to train and equip.
And when it's time, when they're no longer children, then we send them out like arrows, you know.
But the first couple decades of their life, We're not firing them off as arrows.
We're building and sharpening them and fashioning them as effective arrows so that when the time comes, they're ready.
And so I would say the same thing.
Like, if you're in a church where your children and your wife are going to be weakly, you know, placated and longhoused and pacified by cowardly men behind the pulpit, then it doesn't matter how good the conversations are that you're having over lunch with this family or that family.
It's not worth your kids and your wife being.
Being just kind of drifted off to a spiritual apathy and sleep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You shouldn't leave or destroy a good thing, a good setup, but you also shouldn't stay in a bad thing.
And from your description, sounds like more of the latter than the first.
Yeah.
10th Gen American Soar sent $2, said, Can I get a Wesley Todd to co author on the Edgerow Whistle?
I think that's a Substack.
I'll tell you what you can do.
You can send me an email and pitch me on it, but we'll, uh, We'll see.
But thanks for the super chat and thanks for thinking of me.
Jacob Cornwell, could I scroll down a little bit here?
Oh, I skipped one.
Favorite verse and why is it not Deuteronomy 25 from Daniel Woodward?
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Deuteronomy 25, I just looked it up on my phone myself, is when a woman takes hold of a man's private parts during a conflict, the law says that she is to have her hands cut off.
I'm going to be honest, if that's your life verse, that's a little weird.
It is a verse in the Bible.
It's a verse in the Bible.
But to make it like your premier verse is a little bit of a mystery.
Just put that kind of like over the entry to your home.
It's like you have Joshua up there, right?
Like, well, we went a little bit off the beaten path.
I'll offer a serious answer.
I think Psalm 23 surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.
I think that's a good one.
What do you think, Joel?
I'm looking at the King James.
It says, and with a wife taketh him by the secrets.
I appreciate that.
That's a good way of saying it.
And then verse 12, then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.
Well, I would just, you know, I mean, it's the Bible, so you're never going to catch me disagreeing with the word of God.
I would say, with that, I would, you know, like, what's the general equity of that?
What's the main principle that's being espoused?
Big, big idea there is, you know, your eye shall not pity.
That's the same kind of language that you find all throughout the book of Deuteronomy in regards to.
Just the basic Mosaic code, which is that punishment should be just, it should be impartial, it should be swift.
But then the last main character of biblical justice is that it should be proportional, right?
So, what do you see?
What's the famous language that we find in the Old Testament again and again?
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life.
So, when you think of a woman's hands being cut off, and it's in the word of God, so you assume this is just.
And one of the components of justice is that it's proportional.
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I take that as God elevating the value, worth, dignity, importance of a man's secret parts, a man's manhood.
That this is not mere vanity, that it's not superfluous, it's not just devoted for pleasure or fun, but that it's actually integral to a man.
And so thinking of, like, okay, well, What does it signify?
What is the purpose of a man's endowment?
It's procreation, it's his lineage, his line, his posterity, all of these things.
And it's the Lord kind of in this verse.
I take that to mean the Lord looking into a situation like this and saying, no, this is a really, really big deal.
So, I like one application for today.
If I'm thinking, like, you know, if I'm going to preach that verse, if I'm going through the book of Deuteronomy and that's the text, probably this is off the top of my head.
You know, I didn't prepare this, didn't know the question was coming in ahead of time.
But part of what I would probably preach in that is something about, you know, the importance for men to be men.
Why men actually do need to be masculine.
And it's beyond just vanity and personal pleasure, but it's actually integral to masculinity itself and the identity of a man and his production.
So I think of the woman, if that's equivalent, proportional justice, her hands, right?
Her hands are what she uses to nurture, her hands are what she uses to produce, to make, to, you know, all these different things.
And eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life, then it must be that in the Lord's mind, A man's endowment is equivalent to a woman's hands.
And I'd have to think about that more and what all that entails and the implications that stem from it.
But just again, off the top of my head, the first thing that I feel confident saying is that the masculinity of a man is not a trite thing, it is a weighty thing.
And it's a weighty thing, not just in his sight, because he's making too much of it.
Oh, it's, you know.
You care too much about your masculinity.
You care too much about your manhood.
No, the Lord attributes an immense value and weight.
And how do we know?
Because justice, in order for it to be biblical justice, must be proportional.
And in the mind of God, the proportional consequence for a woman destroying a man's manhood would be the loss of her own hands.
So the Lord sees this clearly as something that is significant.
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It's worth mentioning too, we have no record of that punishment ever being doled out.
Right.
It's probably just a warning.
Just like we don't have a record of the unruly child being put to death.
Right.
But it still was the law.
So it's the fact that it was not carried out doesn't mean that God didn't really mean it.
But what I would say is that's just one more point on God's scoreboard of why God's justice system was so effective.
One of the reasons it was effective is because.
There were severe consequences.
And one of the reasons why we have career criminals today in the United States is because they know that nothing's going to happen.
All right, let's do one more question and then we'll hit our second commercial break.
Jacob Cornwell, $10.
There's an A in front of it, which I'm assuming is Australian $10.
But very kind.
Thank you, Jacob.
What are your thoughts, he asks, on Aaron?
This would be Aaron McIntyre's take on anti Semitism in his recent video with Jason Whitlock.
Is there going to be another brother war?
Keep up the great work.
Did you see it?
I didn't see it.
I didn't watch it.
He's probably referencing a kind of conservative civil war.
There's a lot of disagreement.
We almost did a video this week, and we need to at some point.
Yeah, we will.
There's a civil war raging within the Republican Party, the conservatives, among the right wing.
What do we do about Israel?
What do we do about it?
Is criticism of international Jewry, so Jews dispersed and using the power, the means, the media, the influence that they have to their own ends?
Are we allowed to criticize that?
Is that anti Semitic?
So if I had to guess, just going off of the comment, I think Jason and Aaron are kind of saying, yeah, there's a civil war coming down within, not with the left, not in the nation, but within the right wing conservative movement that's going on as a whole.
I hope that's not the case.
I hope we win the argument before it even gets to a war.
But I think we're there, though.
I think, you know, after Tucker hosted Nick Fuentes and all the blowback that he received, I think it's pretty obvious that it's not going away.
On the right, on the left, there won't be a civil war over this issue because despite all the many problems on the left, it's pretty universal on that side of the political aisle.
You're hard pressed to find a Democrat.
You know, I mean, that's not true.
I mean, Chuck Schumer.
Right.
Right.
I mean, there are plenty of Democrats who are Jewish and who do care very much.
But on the whole, if you're looking at like the 30,000 foot view, it's the right, sadly, that has been, you know, known for, you know, traditional marriage and sanctity of life and Zionism.
It's like, wait, what?
What was that third one?
So, Zionism has been a staple for the political right in America in a way that it has not been for the left.
So, the left will probably not be facing some massive civil war type thing, but the right probably will because that really has its run.
The Zionism with Republicans, the GOP, runs deep, runs really deep and has for a really long time.
And I think people are sick of it.
It's not, to me, it's, you know, It's not a coincidence, you know, like we talked about this with Zoran, you know, becoming mayor of New York City, which is terrible.
You know, so it's terrible.
But one of the reasons, I think there are many, so I'm not just going to truncate it and narrow it down to this one reason.
But to pretend that this had nothing to do with it, I think would be naive.
One of the things that I think was a benefit to him was on the political stage against, you know, all of his political opponents.
They asked each one of them, if you're elected mayor of New York, What's the first foreign visit that you would embark on?
Every single one of them said, Israel, Israel, Israel.
And then it came to him, and his answer was, I wouldn't.
I would stay right here in New York and serve the people of New York.
And so here you have a Muslim socialist who is not good for America, but on the foreign affairs side of the equation, he's America first.
And I know that sounds ridiculous.
He's not even born in America, he is not a heritage American.
And he's not American, even in his ideology.
And, you know, whether it's economic or at every level, the dude's not an American.
So please hear that disclaimer.
I don't mean he's America first across the board, but I'm telling you, it is quickly like the political winds and landscape is quickly shifting.
You would hope that the GOP would figure this out.
If you are like a Randy, you know, what is it?
Randy Fine.
Fine.
Yeah.
If you're.
If you're of that stripe, Mike Huckabee, whatever, like all your pictures of kissing the wall and wearing the tiny hat, Israel, obsession with Israel, allegiance to Israel has quickly become an albatross around your neck.
It has become a political liability.
I think we are not decades out, but I think we are months, years at most out from coming to a point in America where if you run on a pro Israel campaign platform, You're dead in the water.
You don't win.
So I think it's going to probably take a little while for the GOP to understand that.
As soon as they understand it, this is where I would say I'm hopeful.
I'm hopeful that it will be a civil war.
I think it already is, but I think it'll be a short lived civil war because at the end of the day, let's be honest, the GOP just wants to win elections.
And the moment they realize that that's a losing argument and that they can't win, they'll get over it.
So, yep.
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Applying for SOR, I think Sons of Rebellion?
My forefathers served every war, all got land farming after victory.
After World War II, we sunk into poverty until I changed that.
In your opinion, why did World War II cause the demoralization?
Curious.
$80 million, $80 million, $80 million people dead and the rise of communism in Russia.
Yeah, that's why.
We chose to fight with the communists against the fascists.
Communists won and 80 million people died.
And you just, you don't have 80 million people die without a bunch of people being black pilled.
Yep.
All right.
Docswater, why did you delete your Instagram?
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We did not.
Instagram deleted it and we don't really use it.
We kind of transitioned away from Instagram probably three years ago.
So we just stopped really posting on it.
Now, Instagram has changed.
I've heard reliable sources saying, hey, you could actually do a lot on Instagram.
But at the time, we just kind of.
Kind of just got sick of it because Instagram, at least three years ago, in our experience, was predominantly more of a feminine platform.
You know, it's like a place where women would post things from Etsy, you know, or whatever.
And just the nature of our ministry and what we're trying to accomplish and who we're trying to reach, we're like, Instagram doesn't make any sense for us.
Now, at this point, Instagram probably would make sense, but our account, because we pretty much abandoned it three years ago, If we were to hop back on Instagram, we probably would just start over, anyways.
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He said, I left the SDA, the Seventh day Adventist church, a while ago.
I still have lots of family who are Seventh day Adventists.
What are your guys' thoughts on the Seventh day Adventists overall?
Not good.
Not good.
Not great.
They, as far as I know, not as much Christological error.
So, like Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons saying, for example, like Jesus was a created being, not divine.
They celebrate the Sabbath and they believe that it was wrong to move it to Sunday.
And so they observe Saturday.
As the Christian Sabbath.
There's strains of doctrine that say Christ entered the most holy places in 1844.
They get real weird on the end times, as most cults end up doing.
So do not love the Sabbath piece.
Do not love the Saturday piece.
Don't love all the end times stuff.
Ellen G. White, she claimed she had a prophetic gift, that she saw all of these things.
It's not good.
Does God, in his kindness, still save people that, even despite this, is a very big despite?
Not because of it.
But despite all of the errors of the church, save them because they've said, I open my Bible and I see Jesus died for my sins.
I think that's possible.
I'm not God.
I know He will be just.
However, still, as the emphasis would say, don't trust in that church for salvation.
Don't trust that people there are trusting in Christ as much as possible.
Yeah, it's not worth it.
It's a very small, kind of weird sect.
A lot of people end up leaving religion, leaving Christianity altogether from it.
Yep.
So, not good.
Okay.
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He said, Is my employment as a provider of insurance to government schools that promote secular indoctrination of children biblically lawful?
I appreciate your thoughts.
Thank you for your ministry.
You're very welcome.
Thank you for your support.
Is it biblically lawful in terms of like, is it permissible?
Are you in an ongoing, continual state of sin by virtue of holding to that job?
I would say no.
Is it ideal?
Maybe not.
You know, it might be something, you know, like kind of like what Paul writes to slaves, where he's like, you know, like obey your masters, but if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself to do so.
So, is it worth you taking certain efforts to change your vocation?
Maybe.
But, you know, it's hard just from the question alone without asking me asking more questions and getting more details, like what, you know, insurance for what?
Like for the physical protection of those kids.
Mm hmm.
Well, then I think that that's not only permissible, but even commendable.
And that's something that you can have a perfectly clear conscience and say, yeah, I don't think any kids should be going to this school, but they are.
And I would like for them to be physically protected while they're here and get the best price that they can, you know, on insurance or this, that, and the other.
So I don't know, like, what kind of insurance is it just protecting the bottom line financially and the physical property of the school that, you know, is purchased by coercion, by, you know, the state taking our.
Property taxes, you know, then, yeah, then that's less defensible.
It's not really commendable.
I don't think that it's necessarily put you in a continual state of sin, but it's not necessarily what I would want to do with my life's work.
So it'd be worth, you know, exploring other options.
Yep.
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Is that Pat Buchanan in that picture?
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No, it is.
Ace.
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Did the Nephilim look like clowns?
Paul Snuff.
Great question.
So good.
Have you gone down this rabbit trail?
Probably not.
Oh, I'm so proud to say I haven't.
You don't care.
There's, man, there's some compelling evidence.
Yeah, of just basically like the red lips of a clown and the white skin and all these things and the redness around the eyes.
And clowns have always been kind of horrific.
I don't know what's funny about clowns, they're quite terrifying.
But basically, the arguments is that the Nephilim were man eaters, right?
That they actually, who's the one, a great hunter before the Lord?
Nimrod.
Nimrod, yeah.
I know my Nephilim Lord.
There you go.
Yeah.
And so, you know, arguments have been made that, like, he wasn't, like, hunting.
Like, when it says great hunter before the Lord, it's more of the negative connotation, like that the Lord was watching him in anger, in judgment, and that he was, like, doing it, like, really?
Like, right in front of my post war consensus, you know, like right in front of my face, like you're going to be, you're going to be so blatantly rebellious right in front of me.
So, like, a great hunter, a mighty hunter before the Lord.
Not that the Lord honored him, but quite the opposite that, like, before the face of God, he had no sense of shame and he hunted men, not animals.
He was a man, man hunter and man eater, that he was a cannibal.
And so, there's a lot of different theories.
About the Nephilim being giants, great physical stature, that I absolutely believe, and that some of them, if not all of them, but at least some of them, actually being cannibalistic.
And so, in being cannibalistic and being just beastly in their appetites and their behaviors and their way of life, these are not people who are living civilized lives.
They're not showering.
And so, constantly having red stained lips from blood, right?
That they would eat raw meat and even eat people raw.
And so, you know, and then like pale, pasty, you know, skin.
So, like the white face, the red lips, the eyes being agitated.
There's a reason for the eyes, I forget.
But, anyways, that's the basic gist.
I'm butchering it, but that's the basic gist of where you get the clown theory behind the Nephilim.
And I'll just go on record and say it's ridiculous.
Just kidding.
I believe it 100%.
I'm so down.
I'm so down.
Like, you're telling me that horrific, terrifying clowns are modeled off of this Fordian, unhinged biblical mythology.
Yeah, I'm here for that 100%.
Take it to the bank.
Bearing Responsibility for Sin00:06:36
I'm that was more grounded than I thought it would be.
Yeah, there's something behind it.
It's not, yeah, it's not like completely arbitrary.
Take it to the bank out of nothing.
Yeah, okay.
So, yeah, I'm being a little bit facetious there, uh, but it's not ridiculous.
So, my answer is, what do I think?
It's not ridiculous, and I'm inclined to think there might be something there.
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Was talking with friends, and they said that if a husband did everything right, but his wife is still rebellious, he's still responsible.
Your response, no, no.
No, that's put down the George Gilder and pick up some William Gooch.
That would be my response.
Covert feminism is still feminism.
And we're just, we're done with that.
That dog don't hunt.
Not anymore.
There was a time, right?
We don't have to name everybody involved.
You know the usual suspects.
There was a time when you could say that and it was based, you know, or people thought it was.
It was never based.
But And they thought, oh man, he's patriarchal.
In fact, he's so patriarchal that look at how much responsibility he's giving to the man.
But what I've realized as I've, you know, looked into it more, as I've aged, as I've gotten a little bit more experience, a little bit more wisdom, it's just, uh, it's just the back door of feminism.
It's just, uh, a way of feigning patriarchal convictions, but ultimately championing the feminist cause.
Um, it's, I said it, you know, a couple live streams ago, earlier this week, I think on Monday, it's, um, It's Pharaoh saying to the Israelite slaves, bricks without straw.
And that's ultimately what we've done to men.
So, you know, just full blown, you know, unapologetic feminism would just say, you know, here's the irony leftist, godless, secular feminism, full blown feminism, is actually more empowering of men than your based conservative, reformed pastor.
Patriarchy, because at least the leftists will say men don't have any authority, but they also don't have responsibility.
Right?
Whereas your based patriarchal reform pastor is going to say men have all the responsibility, but none of the authority.
Bricks, but no straw.
So you still have to be the man of the house and bear responsibility for everything in the family.
But at the end of the day, you don't really have authority.
And those guys will say, Of course they have authority.
We teach authority.
Yeah.
You say that, but then, you know, every six months you come out with some kind of authority, dot, dot, dot, fine print.
But unless you're Nabal and your wife is Abigail, and what makes a man Nabal?
He's actually blatantly going against the scripture.
No, he holds to a different revision of World War II history than we prefer.
And so then your wife is totally, totally merited to go against the will of her husband.
Against his wishes, pursue the elders of the church and get him in trouble.
So, yeah, so I mean, if that's patriarchy, then sign me up for feminism.
But no, I'm glad you asked the question.
It needs to be said.
We'll say it again and again and again.
Men do bear responsibility, they do, but they also have authority.
And in our society, where, and sadly, even in the church, where the vast majority, if not all, of that authority has been stripped away.
You don't get to take away the authority, but still make a man bear the responsibility.
If he can't do anything about it because you've made him powerless, then he's not morally culpable.
He's not responsible.
We bear moral culpability when we sin against God because we actually are not powerless.
We actually are responsible for our rebellion because our rebellion is willful.
It's volitional.
It's the volition piece that brings the responsibility.
You take away the volition, then you take away the culpability.
And so, if you have a man who has no authority and the wife is sinning against every single one of him, despite all his efforts, and there's literally nothing he can do, then no, he's not responsible.
That's just, that is.
Feminism.
That's feminism thinly veiled as based patriarchy, and we don't buy it.
There are just, there are women that are terrible people.
I think of Greg Bonson.
His wife, it's not like trumpeted from the rooftops, but his wife cheated on him, committed adultery multiple times.
And eventually, the elders looked into it.
He had biblical cause to let her go.
And you hear from him explaining the situation and the others that looked into it.
He was not a perfect man, a sinless man, but we can say in the matter that he did all the things right that could be expected of a man.
As best we can tell from the outside, and if not Greg Bonson, then someone else.
Really was a good man and innocent as far as sinning in his wife in any way that merited it.
And she was a wicked person.
And so we don't look at him and say, well, somehow, some way, you're just still responsible because that was the outcome that happened.
No, she was wicked.
And he, in the matter, not as a person, but in the matter, was sinless and did not do anything wrong.
Is Jesus responsible?
I mean, think about this.
Like, is Jesus responsible for all the sin of the church?
Right?
No, he's sinless.
He doesn't, he takes, He's willing to pay the price for the sin of the church at the cost of his own life, right?
Behold the Lamb of God, he takes away the sins of the world.
So he takes the punishment.
He's willing to do that.
But nowhere will we say that he bears the moral responsibility for the church's sin.
No, he is blameless, he is sinless, he is innocent.
It's our fault that we sin, not his.
Um, so no, that dog won't hunt.
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Validating Salvation in Politics00:15:32
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Fun question favorite New Testament and Old Testament book, and why?
Great work, gents.
Thank you.
New Testament, Hebrews, Old Testament, Isaiah.
They're awesome books.
Yeah.
Um, Hebrews is great, uh, Romans is also great.
There's a lot of great books, honestly.
I'll go with Hebrews.
I really, really love Hebrews.
Uh, Old Testament, honestly, you know, and maybe it's because I just taught through them, but on you know, I, I, I pick them to teach through because I really like them.
But Joshua and Ezra and Nehemiah, Joshua, Ezra, and Nehemiah are probably three of my favorites.
Isaiah is a great book, but I really love, like, if I'm in the Old Testament, the prophets are great, right?
The wisdom literature is great.
The Proverbs are great.
The Psalms, goaded.
Right.
Yeah.
And that's, yeah, wisdom literature, Psalms are goaded.
But I really like the historical books.
They're just fun.
It's just great narrative.
Judges, honestly, Judges is a fantastic book.
So I'd say, like, Joshua, Judges, Ezra, Nehemiah, those two time periods right there, awesome.
All right.
Good answer.
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In 1683, Protestants joined with the Catholics to defend Vienna.
Were those Protestants wrong to join that battle that was against the Turks and the Ottoman Empire?
And they joined with what would have been like the Habsburg dynasty for the Catholics?
No, they were not wrong.
Of course not.
Yeah, you can be co belligerents when civilization is at stake.
There's a difference in Catholics and Protestants joining the same local church and administering the sacraments to one another.
Validating each other's salvation.
We're not going to have a Catholic be an elder in our church.
We're not going to have a Catholic be a member in our church.
He could grow up Catholic, but he would have to renounce Rome and vice versa.
Every Catholic would say that about me.
So we're not being mean spirited.
We're not picking on anyone, but we're just saying, no, the Protestant and Catholic church are separate for good reasons.
And those reasons, theological reasons, matter.
So in the realm of the church, That degree of ecumenicalism between Catholics and Protestants in the realm of the church, bad idea.
In the realm of politics and culture, good idea.
We have to think in categories.
I said something just yesterday on Twitter, and somebody was like, Ecumenicalism is satanic.
Oh, I know what it was.
It was Robert Sarah.
Is he Ethiopian?
He's a cardinal, yeah.
Right, yeah.
But what country?
I don't know what country he's from.
I think from South Africa.
South Africa.
Sub Saharan Africa.
Yeah.
Okay.
But he said something about like Western civilization is about to collapse and it needs to be saved.
The enemy is at the gates.
The enemy is at the gates.
Yeah.
And so I just shared it and said, based Robert Sarah.
And somebody in the comments was like, ecumenicalism is satanic.
And I was like, what are you talking about?
I didn't invite him to preach at my church.
He's talking about the political, the cultural, He's talking about civilization being on the brink.
And he's right.
He's absolutely right.
And so, yeah, so I think you just have to know where you can join.
So, if it's Protestants and Catholics joining in a physical battle against the Turks to save their children's physical lives, I don't understand how you can be against that.
There you go.
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On polity, what about the execution of Achan and his family in Joshua 7?
It was commanded by God.
To the representative, to the rep carried out by the assembly for their protection.
Good example.
That's kind of what.
Yeah.
And so that's what I said.
I said to me, the most compelling case is when it, for the Old Testament, when it came to corporal punishment and the New Testament, when it comes to excommunication.
And I see a continuity between the two, whether it's putting the immoral person to death in the Old Covenant or whether it's putting the immoral person, impenitent person, out of the church in the New Covenant.
I do see whether it's Matthew 18 or whether it's the text that was just cited here.
I see both of those as being when it's corporal, it's corporate.
I see that principle and I think that's a great case.
And it rhymes, so it has to be true.
It has to be true.
Corporal, corporate.
And I think all I would say is it's getting harder by the day to see the principle beyond that.
I still see it there.
I'm really having a hard time.
I need somebody to make me the biblical argument.
For a congregational vote on the budget.
I'm having a hard time seeing that one in scripture.
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He said this I have a gay brother.
I'm sorry.
We have a rocky relationship.
Due to my views, I have kids now wondering how you would have handled a sibling relationship.
I will say we did a video at the beginning of this year.
It was not a live stream, so it wasn't a full two hours.
It was a shorter video on bringing children around family members that would be gay or trans.
We did tackle that, I think 10, 15 minutes long.
So definitely would recommend to check that out.
And basically, I think we said essentially there's a difference between bringing your children around someone who's not actively sinning, you're right, an uncle with a foul mouth who keeps it under control at Thanksgiving.
Versus bringing them around someone who literally, by being in a gay marriage, by pretending to be a man when they were born a woman, is literally active every single moment, sinning.
Yeah, your children will always be around sinners.
But there's a difference in your children, you subjecting your children to be in the presence of someone who is in sin versus someone who is sinning.
In sin versus sinning.
I think that's the difference.
So you could have an unbelieving uncle, like you just said, who has a foul mouth.
And you have a respectful conversation with him ahead of time and say, please do not curse in front of the children.
And you know that, like, when he's not around your kids, he curses like a sailor.
But when he's with your kids, he's not cursing.
So he's in sin, but he's not sinning.
And I think that would be permissible.
So, with the gay brother, I don't know.
Is his boyfriend coming with him?
You know, is he doing the limp wrist and the lisp in his talk?
You know, is he doing the voice?
You know, It's like, hey, you're doing the voice.
Well, that actually is not just in sin, that's sinning.
What you're saying that a voice is sinning?
Yes, I am.
Yes, I am.
You are intentionally changing your voice to sound effeminate.
Effeminacy is a sin.
So, yeah.
So if he is sinning, sinning with his gay voice or sinning with his gay boyfriend or sinning in his gay attire and the way that he's dressing, he's sinning in front of your children, then yeah, sorry.
Love you.
Praying for you.
Um, you know, we're not spending Christmas or any holiday with you ever again because I love my kids more and I'm called to protect them.
But if it's just he's a sodomite, he's in sin, but he's not sinning, he's talking like a normal person, dressing like a normal person, and he's not bringing his boyfriend, you know, for Christmas dinner, um, then yeah, I would think that that's permissible for your kids to be able to see their uncle, you know, around the holidays.
Yeah.
All right.
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He said, Thoughts on Candace Owens and her Charlie Kirk investigation.
How can Christians avoid conspiracies when we don't trust the government to tell the truth?
The very first live stream we ever did was three tools for judging conspiracies.
So, for one, you'll see just how much our set and everything has changed.
But I think the principles in there are still timely.
So, all the way back, this would have been a live about two years ago.
Three tools for judging conspiracies.
But I think, in short, essentially, don't trust everyone, but also don't give your life away to babe wake up.
The candace just dropped.
Babe wake up.
There are just more productive things.
And even with Charlie Kirk, the big narrative isn't actually maybe literally who pulled the trigger.
It does matter.
And we should get to the bottom of it.
Here's actually what matters more thousands and thousands of leftists.
Cheered for it to happen.
So, what should be your takeaway?
Well, this one person, this one thing may be enabled.
Okay, that matters.
Also, practically thousands of people in your state need to lose their jobs because they are bloodthirsty for conservatives.
So, don't lose the forest for the trees when it comes to conspiracies.
Yeah, I agree.
That said, I don't believe the narrative.
And Candace, she says some wacky things.
I mean, Charlie, they're coming and talking to her in a dream.
You know, that was a little cringe.
But that said, Have you guys seen?
All right, I'm just going to say.
Have you guys seen the searches, the Google searches?
I have.
It's fascinating, right?
I mean, at the end of the day, it's like, okay, is it true though?
Were those searches really there?
Because they've all been wiped now.
So I would want to see more evidence and those kinds of things.
So just to say it doesn't make it true.
But that particular narrative, the long and short of it is that there were very specific.
Google searches before Charlie's assassination took place, all the way down to the VIN number, you know, identification number of the plane, the getaway plane, the pilot's name, Tyler James Robinson with his middle name, Tyler James Robinson, the address of the house with the chicken coop where the gun was left, that address search.
All these Google searches happened before the assassination, after the TPUSA event, where Tucker and Dave Smith and other guys were hosted by Charlie to say things about Israel that Zionists do not appreciate.
So Post TPUSA event, where everyone's now mad at Charlie for keeping Tucker and having Dave Smith there and allowing these anti Zionist talking points to be platformed at his event.
After the TPUSA event and before his assassination, in that window of whatever it was, six weeks, something like that, that time period in between, there is a number of very, very specific Google searches, allegedly, that took place in one country, Israel.
And then after being searched in Israel, a little later on, I think also in Kentucky, where I think there's like a particular place in Kentucky where there's like a CIA or FBI headquarters.
And then also, I think, in Washington, D.C.
So not great.
Not great.
Is it true, though?
That's the most important question.
Is that true?
And is there a way to validate it?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I will say that the current narrative of a 30 yacht six and Charlie Kirk having superhuman powers and his neck catching the bullet and stopping it.
I mean, you just shot a buck.
Yeah.
So on Tuesday, I got my first buck.
The bullet went straight through like a full barrel, 110 pound buck.
Small entrance wound, small exit wound.
Yep.
All the way through.
So, no, the current narrative, I have nothing to hide.
I'm not ashamed to say it.
Like, I'm not buying it.
But I think Wes still is right in terms of, okay, but what do we do?
Right?
Like, what's the purpose?
I think what we do is, yeah, we say, look, this is what we do know.
We know that thousands of leftists were mocking Christians, mocking Charlie, mocking his wife, mocking his children.
So we use whatever political momentum we can get.
I think that that's strategic, that's wise.
Take it, take what you can get.
But you said this briefly, but it's just worth mentioning again because you're right.
It matters how we can use this.
Like I saw people tweeting out if I die, make it political.
Right.
And I would agree.
Like me and Wes joke about it all the time.
I'm like, I'll tell them, hey, if I die in the next year or two, find a way to politicize it.
Absolutely.
It's like, why?
Why would you do that?
Tensions are already so high because we need to win.
We need to win.
We're talking about wicked, evil, sinister people who laugh when children's fathers are executed in front of them.
So, yeah, they need to be crushed.
These people are demonic and they need to be crushed.
So, politicize it.
That's great.
There's an easy angle because of all the people with the TikTok videos and Instagram mocking Charlie and his death.
That's just an easy angle to get political capital momentum and seek to righteously crush politically, crush your enemies, and you should do that.
At the same time, objective truth also matters immensely.
It really does matter that an innocent man doesn't go to jail.
It really does matter if he is innocent that the guilty don't get away scot free.
Um, that really does matter, and so, um, I hope that we would find the truth.
I'll be honest, I don't look very well.
Gerald's gone cold, I think, to say the least.
Yeah, I mean, like, how's Epstein going?
How's that going?
You know, um, Kash Patel has been a disappointment.
Uh, we're not going to find out things about Epstein.
I don't think we're going to get any answers about Charlie Kirk.
This is just where we are.
Like, our government, it doesn't matter what side.
I mean, at the end of the day, whether it's the GOP, whether it's MAGA, you know, whether it's the Democrats, um.
They're not going to tell you the truth.
They think you're stupid.
They will lie to you and continue to use you as a tax farm for Israel and Ukraine and everything else.
So that's just kind of where we are.
But it does matter.
And people are giving Candace a hard time.
I'll go on record and say, I think she's done a lot of good.
And if you want to listen, I think there's nothing wrong with that.
Listen, just listen with an objective ear.
Don't be overly biased.
Do I think she's right about everything?
No, nobody's right about everything.
Do I think she's brought up those some compelling points?
The dream?
No, not so much, but some other things that really are compelling.
Yeah, I do.
And you can say I'm stupid or whatever, but no, I think she's bright.
I think she's done a lot of good work.
And I think she's right more often than people are willing to admit.
Yep.
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If that's the options, we don't have to go into it.
We've talked about this before.
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It's a simple question.
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He said, The Lord's using your team, your group to rebuild the American will in real American time.
Support Trump more than Fuentes.
Nick Fuentes, if you don't, brothers, I'm afraid you're making a big mistake.
Big mistake.
This republic defines our virtue.
Don't really know what the last line is getting at.
Yeah, that threw me off.
Yeah, I appreciate the.
Can you read it one more time?
Read it one more time.
I'm trying to understand it.
Wise Final Solution.
First of all, thanks for the $20.
Very kind.
The Lord's using your team, your group, to rebuild the American will in real American time.
Support Trump more than Fuentes.
If you don't, brothers, I'm afraid you're making a big, big mistake.
This republic defines our virtue.
Yeah, I disagree.
I'm just going to have to say I really appreciate your support and your encouragement.
It means a lot.
But in terms of support Trump, like if you don't like Nick, fine.
Who cares?
You don't have to like him.
You don't have to listen to him.
That's fine.
So I'm going to hit more so on the side of the support Trump than the don't support Nick.
In terms of supporting Trump, I think I would just answer by saying I did.
I've been there, done that, bought the t shirt.
I voted for him all three times.
Have you supported Trump?
My goodness, dude, I was Trump's top guy in 2016.
Nathan, have you supported Trump?
Have I supported you?
I feel like we've done that.
Yeah.
And so I would just respond by saying, when is Trump going to support me?
When is Trump going to support us?
When is he going to support the Americans who voted him into office?
When are we going to get the mass deportations?
When are we going to, like, hey, you know, the pedophiles who should be in jail?
Forget about them.
He mocked people when he's like, Epstein, who you're still talking about that, yeah, we're still talking about that, yeah, we're still talking about Epstein.
Yes, our country has been stolen from us by foreign invaders, and they're still here.
You haven't gotten them out.
Um, we haven't gotten any credible answers about who killed Charlie Kirk.
Uh, Americans are being replaced, um, in terms of jobs.
Have you seen the job numbers?
Oh, they're off the charts, unemployment bad.
Terrible.
Absolutely terrible.
I just saw a report today that the major Fortune 500 companies across the board as a whole have increased in terms of creating jobs.
It's basically a wash, have created no new jobs for the last year.
So people can't afford to live.
You mock people when we ask you to simply produce what you promised.
JFK or Epstein Files or this, that, and the other.
The economy is not.
The economy is not.
Oh, no, do that either.
The mass deportations have been a joke.
So, I mean, I'm not saying Trump has never done anything.
Of course he has, and I'm grateful for it.
But the support Trump, Nick is 27 years old.
He doesn't hold political office, he never has.
So, it's like, well, you should support Trump more than Nick.
Well, my expectations for Trump are a lot higher than my expectations for Nick.
Nick is a political pundit, he's a podcaster, and he's podcasting whether you like it or not.
The dude is podcasting at, you know, he's firing on every cylinder, he's podcasting at the top of his lungs.
So, I mean, whatever you would expect for Nick to do, he's doing.
He's like, he's podcasting as much as he can, saying things, you know, years in advance, being willing to be deplatformed and canceled and all that kind of stuff.
So, whatever the expectations would be for a 27 year old podcaster, I feel like Nick is fulfilled.
But the expectations for the president of the United States that we have supported a ton, those expectations are not being met at all.
So I would just respond to the comment and say, you know, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for me.
No, I am going to ask what is my country going to do for me?
What are my elected leaders that I encourage others to vote for?
Going to do for me.
No, it's not time to support Trump.
It's time for Trump to support us.
And he needs to do it and do it quick because if he doesn't, and right now he's not, we are going to be slaughtered in the midterms.
And as Steve Bannon just recently said, a bunch of people, including him and maybe me, are going to go to jail.
The spicy tweets are not enough.
All you're doing is aggravating the hornet's nest, you're not actually crushing them.
You're not actually dismantling them.
You're just pissing them off.
And at the same time, pissing off your base by not fulfilling your promises so that you're going to get crushed in the midterm and then have an aggravated political opponent coming into the public sphere with a vengeance and we're all going to get crushed.
So, no, I am not trusting the plan, friends.
I am currently not a plan truster.
And, uh, And so it's weird to kind of sync up Fuentes and Trump, like support Trump more than Fuentes.
I don't even know what that means.
But I'll just speak to the Trump piece and say he's had plenty of support.
Plenty.
It's time for him to do something.
All right.
Glenn Lawrence presents sent $10.
Thanks, Glenn.
What do you recommend a husband should do if his wife refuses to follow his leadership?
If he continues to enforce his boundaries, his wife could follow, file, For divorce.
First of all, condolences if that's your situation.
That's a tough situation to be in.
I don't know that it would be appropriate to say, hold this line or hold that line, because you could push a marriage over the edge, or she would maybe never file for divorce, and then you've settled yourself short.
I think the best person to be able to discern would be a man who knows both of you.
That should be an elder, or at best, an elder man in the church, and you're meeting with him weekly.
My marriage is on the rocks.
My wife won't submit to my leadership.
I'm afraid she would file for divorce.
She would take the children, but I'm not going to give up.
I'm not going to give up loving her, and I'm not going to give up leading her.
How should I do this here?
What do you think about this?
What is your counsel to me?
They're going to know her.
They're going to know you if it's you.
They're going to know the friend if it's the friend and be able to say, this is how far I think it should go, but not this just yet.
And hopefully, it also be an encouragement.
Hey, do you remember the progress we've made in these three months?
I think they're going to be able to do a lot more good than we could just simply knowing at the top line hey, a wife won't submit.
Yep.
No, that's good.
Unfortunately, there, you know, and I know you know this, Wes, but there are many cases where you couldn't get that unruly, reviling wife to attend a counseling session with a truly biblically faithful elder to save your life.
Right.
You know, so that's even why I said just meeting with the other man.
Right.
You probably won't have to.
Yeah, it might just be you and this pastor counseling you without your wife because she refuses to attend because she's so steeped in her pride and rebellion and feminism.
And it's really him just consoling you, praying for you, and discipling you in how to suffer for doing good, how to suffer well for the cause of Christ.
Because the bottom line is, we currently live in a society where the courts, the churches, sadly, the media, the culture, the education system, the universities, every single facet of our society is against men and panders to women.
And so you have to marry a godly woman or you're screwed.
If you wind up, you know, you wake up one day and you realize, oh my goodness, I've been hoodwinked, I'm married.
I married an insufferable woman.
Then, unless God does a miracle, basically your life is over.
And so, at that point, I mean, your life is over.
So, at that point, all you really can do is simply try to suffer well, to honor Christ.
And if you have kids, to win the hearts of your children to where they don't end up turning out like mom.
Yeah.
Sad.
Very, very sad.
And there are thousands of men.
In that position.
All right, next.
All right, Chase Cormack sent $20.
Very kind, Chase.
Great brother.
He asked How would a man address a wife who allows herself to become overwhelmed by simple duties, by a lack of planning and laziness?
That's a good one.
I would just certainly say patience.
You know, Peter does say they are the weaker vessel.
And this is one of the areas men take on and can take on a lot of stress and a lot of different things at the same time and not allow themselves to be overwhelmed.
And a woman could be overwhelmed with preparing.
Three meals a day, and uh, and Peter doesn't just say, like, well, she should learn to be like a man, he says, no, she is weaker and she's going to have those difficulties.
So, having a patience, or recognizing, like, yeah, um, some women and women on the whole, on average, uh, they're going to struggle with uh, with planning, with preparing, um, patience, love, Joel.
Anything to add to that practically?
Yeah, that's good patience and love, and um, and you also can, you know, in patience, in love, um.
You should correct her.
A husband is allowed to correct his wife.
And, you know, I mean, that's what leadership is.
If you don't have any authority, then you're not the leader.
So if the husband really is the head of his wife and a position of authority, then it's permissible.
He is at liberty to use that authority in a loving manner.
So you're right, 1 Peter 3 live with your wives in an understanding manner.
So there should be lots of understanding, sympathy, Compassion, for she is the weaker vessel, but also correction.
Christ is the head of the church.
He lives with the church in an understanding manner.
There's compassion, there's patience, there's grace, but there's also correction.
The Bible is filled with a bunch of rebukes, a bunch of commands, a bunch of correction, a bunch of conviction for sin.
And so a husband is at liberty to do both, not to do one at the expense of the other.
Compassion without any correction, where you're just a pushover, but it also shouldn't just be correction without any compassion.
You are commanded to live with her in an understanding manner, recognizing that she is the weaker vessel.
So I think just doing your best to balance both of those correction and compassion.
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I've never managed to catch an episode live.
Welcome.
My soon to be father in law is the head pastor at an SBC church and is painfully dispensational, but he's starting to listen to my disagreements.
On the topic.
Any advice?
Take it slow.
Just take it slow.
Yeah, exactly.
Don't push too far, too fast.
Take it slow.
Be patient and do it all with humility.
Yeah.
Honor an older man.
Yeah.
And it really can be done if he realizes you're a real person and you said father in law, so you're marrying his daughter.
You're a good man.
Yeah.
Like it's not enough to just be like, well, my theology is perfect.
I'll argue about it all the time.
Okay.
Can you provide?
Can you raise children?
Can you love my daughter?
Make those things 95% of your interactions and positive and good.
And then those disagreements, like, man, this kid, honestly, he's a hard worker.
He's a sharp guy.
He's leading his family.
He might be onto something here.
Yep.
All right.
This is infernal $5.
He said, Networking with people who believe demonic influence is a reality after a direct experience of it.
Any advice doing this in a non.
Non-ho scaring way?
Host scaring way.
You want to scare the hoes.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I don't know.
Networking with people who believe demonic influence is a reality after direct experience of it.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Tough question.
Yeah, the demonic is real.
Absolutely.
And.
And demons still are able to influence people today.
It is real.
So, recognizing the reality of demonic influence and in terms of not scaring people away, I mean, the biggest thing with that is not to minimize the threat of demons, but to maximize the power of Christ.
Say, Christ is Lord.
The power of Christ compels you.
Greater is he that is in you than he who is in the world.
All right.
Next question Dapper Dan.
He gave us $10.
He said, Would you care to debunk Alibeth Stuckey's feminine exegesis?
That she posted in response to the controversy surrounding her unauthorized sermon at the TPUSA conference recently.
I would have to see it in order to do that.
And I have not seen it.
I don't plan on watching it.
But if enough people ask, then I guess that's something that we could look into.
All right.
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Responsibility without authority is slavery.
Correct.
Responsibility without authority is slavery.
Amen.
We are blessed to have brothers.
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Spiritual Training Requires Physical Care00:03:38
Says, how important is it for pastors to call men to physically train and prepare for potential evils of the day?
Example, family protection, church security, et cetera.
I think it's important.
The Bible's pretty clear that physical training is of some value, not no value, but some value.
Spiritual training is of more value.
But physical training is of some value.
So I don't think a pastor needs to step outside of his lane and pretend to be an expert in a field where he's not.
So the pastor, he gets to be a pastor.
So spiritual training is number one, it's of more value.
But I guess my argument is this one, scripture says spiritual training is of more value than physical training.
Okay.
So there's already should be an inclination to emphasize, prioritize the spiritual training more.
But that's not even the big part of my argument.
The bigger part is the pastor.
The pastor should be prioritizing spiritual training because that's his job.
That's his realm.
In the same way that, you know, the physical trainer, if that's like there's another guy, not the pastor, a different guy, and his vocation is that he's a physical trainer, he's probably going to, if we're just looking at, you know, hours in the day, he's probably going to be spending 90% of his prioritization on physical training.
And it's like, oh, well, the Bible says physical training is some value, but spiritual training is more valuable.
So this guy must be in sin.
Because he's giving more emphasis and prioritizing physical training more than spiritual training.
Well, no, but that's his job.
That's his vocation.
In the same way that somebody else might be an engineer and spend 12 hour days working as an engineer and spend one hour when it comes to family worship and reading the scripture in the home.
So he's in sin?
No, that's his vocation.
The Bible makes it permissible for a man to devote himself in a vocation, and there are meaningful, valid, significant vocations outside of the clergy.
So, yes, I think should pastors occasionally at least mention the fact that we're not Gnostics, that Gnosticism actually is a heresy, that God created us both soul and body, and that the body and physical training is of some value, and that part of our spiritual maturity is reflected in our body.
For a guy to say, I'm really, I have great moral character, and I also weigh 350 pounds, that is a walking contradiction.
Should that, because that actually does have spiritual implications?
And there are Bible verses to back it up, like gluttony being a singe.
So, should that be part of a pastor's repertoire, a part of his preaching?
Yes, absolutely.
But should he pivot because the problem is so stark?
Because we do have a bunch of Gnostics in the church today that think that the physical is of no account.
Should a pastor therefore commit an error in the other direction and become the physical training guru with 90% of his emphasis?
No.
One, because spiritual training is of more value, but two, because he's a pastor.
And so he should focus on the things where the Lord has called him.
But yes, to say this is a thing, it does matter.
And I'm not going to start doing aerobics classes at church on Sunday, but you should get your butt to the gym on Monday through Saturday.
That's not only permissible, but given the lay of the land today, yeah, pastors probably need to say that periodically.
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Very kind.
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I think that's it.
Great.
Let's shut her down before we get more.
I don't want to waste anybody's money.
So we'll shut it down.
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