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chris christie

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nick fuentes

54:51

nikki haley

17:09

ron desantis

14:57

tim scott

18:48

vivek ramaswamy

17:20

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nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		And there are dangers around us.
		You know, everybody wants to talk about President Trump.
		Well, I can talk about President Trump.
		I can tell you that I think he was the right president at the right time.
		I don't think he's the right president now.
		I think that he put us $8 trillion in debt, and our kids are never going to forgive us for that.
		I think the fact that he used to be right on Ukraine and foreign issues, now he's getting weak in the knees and trying to be friendly again.
		I think that we've got to go back to the fact that we can't live in the past.
		We can't live in other headlines.
		We've got to start focusing on what's going to make America strong and proud.
		And that's what I'm focused on doing.
		Let's make sure we pay down our debt.
		I think we need an accountant in the White House.
		Let's make sure that we have transparency in the classroom.
		As a mom, I know what that means.
		Let's make sure we secure our borders so that our families are safe.
		Let's get crime down because our families want to know that they can be safe no matter where they go.
		And as the wife of a combat veteran, I will tell you, the military needs to know we have our back and we need to make sure that America is strong.
unidentified		Ambassador, thank you very much.
		Let me just caution the audience.
		Let's not go down this road.
		We've asked you to please, you know, keep restraining yourselves.
		It would be helpful so we can hear the candidates because these are important issues and the voters want and need to hear them.
		Mr. Ramaswamy, let me turn to you.
		Please make your case.
		Why should you be the nominee and not the former president?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican Party here.
		And I am upset about what happened last night.
		We've become a party of losers at the end of the day.
		We as a cancer to the Republican establishment.
		Let's speak the truth.
		I mean, since Ronna McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018, 2020, 2022, no red wave that never came.
		We got trounced last night in 2023.
		2022, no red wave that never came.
		We got trounced last night in 2023.
		Yes.
		And I think that we have to have accountability.
		accountability in our party.
		For that matter, Ron, if you want to come on stage tonight, you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and tell them you resign, I will turn over my, yield my time to you.
		And frankly, look, the people there cheering for losing in the Republican Party.
		Think about who's moderating this debate.
		This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk.
		We'd have 10 times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and bringing more people into our party.
		Do you think the Democrats, and we've got Christian Welker here, do you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate?
		They wouldn't do it.
		And so the fact of the matter is, I mean, Chris, I'm going to use this time because this is actually about you in the media and the corrupt media establishment.
		Ask you the Trump-Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years.
		Was that real or was that Hillary Clinton made up disinformation?
		Answer the question.
unidentified		Go.
		Woah!
		Let's go!
		Let's go!
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		We need accountability because this media rigged the 2016 election.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		They rigged the 2020 election with the Hunter Biden laptop story.
unidentified		Mr. Ramaswamy, your time is up.
		Let me turn to Governor Christie.
		Why you?
		That was awesome!
		Yeah!
		Yeah!
		Audience, let's not do this.
		Let's not do this.
		Let's let the candidate speak.
		Governor Christie, why you and not former President Trump?
		Well, Lester, look, you said it at the beginning of the debate.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		We are dealing with extraordinarily important issues facing this country right now.
		We have our greatest ally in the Middle East under fire from a terrorist group that has committed to wiping them and every Jewish person in this world off the map.
		We have Ukraine with Vladimir Putin, a communist KGB dictator who wants to put the old band back together.
		He's starting in Ukraine and he's going to move to the Baltics and Poland after that.
		We have inflation in this country that is choking, choking every American family that wants to try to rise up and give their children a better life.
		And tonight we need to decide Which president is going to be the one to tackle the big issues?
		Who's going to make this country look once again, not just inward, but look outward at the world?
		And say, America is the country, the indispensable nation, that makes this a safer world.
		And in a safer world, American innovation, American hard work, has always been the thing.
		Senator Scott, you've said former President Trump can't win.
		I'm going to be the president who will do those big things.
		We're not going to be small.
		And I'll say this about Donald Trump.
		Anybody who's going to be spending the next year and a half of their life focusing on keeping themselves out of jail and courtrooms cannot leave this party or this country.
		It needs to be said plainly.
unidentified		Governor, thank you.
		Let me turn to Senator Scott.
		Senator Scott, you've said former President Trump can't win.
		Make your case to Republican voters.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		Well, certainly.
		What I would say is that the truth of my life destroys the lies of the radical left.
		We need a president and a candidate who will actually help our base solidify and attract independent voters into our party.
		The Great Opportunity Party is now winning back African-Americans.
		Are they?
		Oh my gosh.
		Hispanic voters because we are working on a foundation based on faith.
		Our nation is facing some deep challenges.
		It is the loss of faith in this nation that is a part of the erosion that we're seeing every single day.
		It's restoring faith, restoring our Christian values that will help this nation once again become the city on the hill.
		When Ronald Reagan talked about the city on the hill, he was coming from Matthew 5.
		When President Lincoln talked about.
		The house divided.
		That was Mark.
		Our founding documents speak to the importance of a faith foundation.
		You don't have to be a Christian for America to work for you, but America does not work without a faith-filled Judeo-Christian foundation.
		I would be the president that helps us restore faith in God, faith in each other, and faith in our future.
		Without that focus, none of the issues, the policies, matter.
		We have to get back to being a nation that is, in fact, the city on the hill that believes in each other enough for us to fight for that future.
unidentified		Senator Scott, thank you.
		We're going to turn now to the challenges facing The next Commander-in-Chief, you'll all be fielding questions first from me, and the Republican Jewish Coalition, and then from Kristen and Hugh.
		So as we continue forward, the Israel-Hamas war is barely a month old.
		Tonight, Israeli troops are fighting inside Gaza City with over 200 hostages who remain captive there, and civilian casualties mount inside Gaza.
		As President of the United States, what would you be urging Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to do at this moment?
		Governor DeSantis.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		I would be telling Bibi, finish the job once and for all with these butchers, Hamas.
		They're terrorists.
		They're massacring innocent people.
		They would wipe every Jew off the globe if they could.
		He cannot live with that threat right by his country.
		Hamas should release every hostage and they should unconditionally surrender.
		I'm sick of hearing the media, I'm sick of hearing other people blame Israel just for defending itself.
		Israel is wrong.
		with Israel in word and in deed, in public and in private.
		And I can tell you, as governor, I actually did something about it.
		Biden's neglect has been atrocious.
		We had Floridians that were over there after the attack.
		He left them stranded.
		They couldn't get flights out.
		So I scrambled resources in Florida.
		I sent planes over to Israel and I brought back over 700 people to safety.
		There could have been more hostages had we not acted.
		And I'll tell you this, I met the first plane load when they came to Florida and one of the mothers pointed to a six year old daughter and she said, my daughter had been saying the last two nights, mommy, I don't want to hear any more bombs, no more rockets.
		I just want to get back to Florida.
		So there's a difference between words and deeds.
		We acted, and we saved lives.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Ambassador Haley, what would you do, what would you be urging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to do?
		Would you consider a humanitarian pause, for example?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		The first thing I said to him when it happened was, I said, finish them.
		Finish them.
		And the reason is, I worked on this every day when I was at the United Nations.
		And we have to remember that they have to, one, eliminate Hamas.
		Two, support Israel with whatever they need, whenever they need it.
		And three, make sure we bring our hostages home.
		We need to be very clear-eyed to know there would be no Hamas without Iran.
		There would be no Hezbollah without Iran.
		There would not be the Houthis without Iran.
		And there wouldn't be the Iranian militias in Syria and Iraq that are trying to hit our military men and women if it hadn't been for Iran.
		And who is funding Iran right now?
		China is buying oil from Iran.
		Russia is getting drones and missiles from Iran.
		And there is an unholy alliance.
		We need to be clear eyed.
		The last thing we need to do is to tell Israel what to do.
		The only thing we should be doing is supporting them in eliminating Hamas.
		It is not that Israel needs America.
		America needs Israel.
		They are the tip of the spear when it comes to this Islamic terrorism and we need to make sure that we have their backs in that process.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Mr. Ramoswamy.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		No, they need us, that's why we're giving them money.
unidentified		Mr. Ramoswamy, any daylight between you and the candidates we just heard on this issue?
unidentified		On what you would tell the Prime Minister?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		Not in terms of what I would tell the Prime Minister, no.
		In fact, I would go one step further.
		The founding vision of Israel was based on the idea that they don't want to depend on anybody else's sympathy or direction in defending themselves.
		So what I would tell Bibi is that Israel has the right and the responsibility to defend itself.
		I would tell him to smoke those terrorists on his southern border, and then I'll tell him as president of the United States, I'll be smoking the terrorists on our southern border.
		That's his responsibility.
		This is our responsibility.
		That's how we move forward.
		But I want to be careful to avoid making the mistakes from the neocon establishment of the past.
		Corrupt politicians in both parties spent trillions, killed millions, made billions for themselves in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, fighting wars that sent thousands of our sons and daughters, people my age, to die in wars that did not advance anyone's interests, adding $7 trillion to our national debt. to die in wars that did not advance anyone's interests, And Joe Biden sold off our foreign policy.
		Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, got a $5 million bribe from Ukraine.
		That's why we're sending $200 billion back to that same country.
		The fact of the matter is the Republican Party is not that much better.
		You have the likes of Nikki Haley who stepped down from her time at the UN.
		Bankrupt or in debt was her family.
		Then she becomes a military contractor.
		She joins the board of Boeing and is now a multi-millionaire.
		So I think that's wrong when Republicans do it or Democrats do it.
		That's the choice we face.
		Do you want a leader from a different generation who's gonna put this country first?
		Or do you want Dick Cheney in three-inch heels?
unidentified		Oh!
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		That was great!
unidentified		There's two of them he said.
		That's awesome dude.
		Let's go.
		That was great.
		There's two of them.
		You're the president.
		You're on the phone in the Oval Office with the prime minister.
		You tell him what?
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		Well, number one, I would tell Prime Minister Netanyahu, not only do you have the responsibility and the right to wipe a mosque off of the map, we will support you.
		We will be there with you.
		We'll stand shoulder to shoulder.
		There will be no daylight.
		But I would change the station a little bit though and head back home to America.
		I would say to President Biden, diplomacy only is a weak strategy.
		Appeasement leads to war.
		From President Obama to President Biden.
		Obama sent millions to Iran.
		Frankly, President Biden has sent billions to Iran.
		That is why I said that there's blood dripping from the hands of President Obama and President Biden.
		I would tell President Biden with great clarity.
		If you want to stop the 40-plus attacks on military personnel in the Middle East, you have to strike in Iran.
		If you want to make a difference, you cannot just continue to have strikes in Syria on warehouses.
		You actually have to cut off the head of the snake, and the head of the snake is Iran and not simply their proxies.
		In order for us to have a powerful response, From America, we have to be in a position of strength.
		As President of the United States, my foreign policy is simple.
		You cannot negotiate with evil.
		You have to destroy it.
unidentified		Alright, Senator Scott, thank you.
unidentified		Governor Christie, I want to get you to weigh in here.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		Look, Lester, these problems are so big and serious that the first thing I would say to Prime Minister Netanyahu is pretty simple.
		America is here no matter what it is you need at any time to preserve the State of Israel.
		Remember that Hamas's main goal is to get rid of Israel.
		Is to get Israel absolutely off the map.
		Now, there are three things I think I would say to him when he asked for advice.
		The first I would say is that it is absolutely your obligation to protect the territorial integrity of Israel.
		Secondly, to make sure you protect the security and the safety of your people.
		Every time something happens to compromise either one of those things, it creates greater unrest in the entire region.
		Second, you must go in and make sure that Hamas can never do this again.
		The fact is that Israel and their intelligence community failed.
		They failed here, and they failed the people of the state of Israel.
		And so we need to work closely and better together to make sure, one, that they're degraded, and two, that we know everything that's going on inside the Gaza Strip, when it's going on, so that something like this can't happen to kill 1,400 individuals again.
		And the third thing is to keep your eye on the ball.
		Make sure that we continue to isolate Iran.
		Work with the reasonable nations in the Middle East, the other Arab nations who want to partner with you.
		And make sure that we continue to isolate Iran so that their only friends in the world are the part of the evil foursome.
		China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea.
unidentified		Governor Christie, thank you very much.
		We're going to continue in this vein right now with a question from Matthew Brooks, the CEO of the Republican Jewish Coalition, a partner of the Republican National Committee in this debate.
		Here it is.
		Given attacks by Iranian-backed proxy groups on U.S.
		military bases in Syria and Iraq, attacks that have wounded approximately two dozen of our U.S.
		servicemen, do you support the use of military force by the United States against Iran?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Do you support the use of military force against Iran?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I'd first like to say they're five-inch heels and I don't wear them unless you can run in them.
		The second thing that I will say is I wear heels they're not for a fashion statement they're for ammunition.
		What we need to be doing for Iraq and Syria is first of all the idea that our men and women could be targeted and that we've allowed almost a hundred hits to happen Under Biden's watch is unthinkable.
		We need to understand this is Iran giving the green light, telling them what to do, and we shouldn't be doing the tit-for-tat like what Joe Biden has done.
		We need to go and take out their infrastructure that they are using to make those strikes with so they can never do it again.
		Iran responds to strength.
		You punch them one and you punch them hard and they will back off.
		But what we don't need is Biden falling all over himself to get back in the Iran deal.
		Him giving six billion dollars to get five hostages home.
		Him telling Netanyahu now that he needs a pause or a ceasefire.
		We don't need him going and sitting there tiptoeing around Iran because he thinks they're going to do something.
		You don't respond to an enemy and a terrorist with fear, you respond with strength.
		When you do that, that's when the world pays attention and that's when Iran stops.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Governor DeSantis, if I can continue with you, just today the U.S.
		launched another one of its limited airstrikes against targets in Syria, this time Iranian-linked facility.
		How far would you go militarily to hold Iran accountable?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well, first, Matt, thanks for your question, and I appreciate what you've done over the last month.
		I know it's been very difficult for the community, and I appreciate you guys rallying together in difficult times.
		I actually served in Iraq back in the day, and we had al-Qaeda in Iraq.
		You had Shia militias that were funded by Iran that were killing hundreds and hundreds of U.S.
		troops.
		And as Commander-in-Chief, I am not going to put our troops in harm's way Unless you're willing to defend them with everything you have.
		Biden has them out there.
		They're sitting ducks.
		He's doing glancing blows.
		That's just inviting more attacks from the Iranians.
		I would say you harm a hair on the head.
		of an American service member, and you are going to have hell to pay.
		We are not just going to sit there and let our service members be sitting ducks, and that's true whether it's the Iran or whether it's any country on the world.
		We have to be strong, and we have to defend the people who defend us.
unidentified		All right, thank you, Governor.
		Now our second and final question from Matthew Brooks of the Republican-Jewish Coalition.
		Please watch. -Jewish students across the country are threatened and under attack.
		What do you say to Jewish students on college campuses who feel unsafe given the dramatic rise in anti-Semitism?
		And what do you say to university presidents and college presidents who have not met the moral clarity moment to forcefully condemn Hamas terrorism?
		Mr. Ramaswamy, would you like to take that one?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		I think the scourge of anti-Semitism across this country, including at places like my alma mater's and places like Brooklyn Bridge in New York, it's sad to see, but here's what history teaches us.
unidentified		I'm happy.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		Anti-Semitism is a symptom of a deeper cancer in a country, in a society that is lost.
		And we are lost.
		Several years ago when I wrote my first book, Woke Inc., I was talking about they were chanting death to America, death to white people, death to Christians.
		Nobody was waking up that day.
		Now it's even bad.
		Now they're saying death to Israel and worse.
		So it is wrong, but we have to get to the root cause here.
		Now I think it's really important that we do this through leadership, not censorship.
		Leadership means fill that void with purpose and meaning.
		Dilute this wokeism and anti-semitism to irrelevance.
		These kids, they have no idea what the heck they're even talking about when they're siding with Hamas over Israel.
		They are fools.
		But I also want to caution here, if we go the direction of Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley, with whom I respectfully disagree on this issue, pro-censorship, telling student groups to disband, mark my words, soon they will say if you question a vaccine and its side effects, you're a bioterrorist.
		Soon they will say that if you show up at a school board meeting, you're a domestic terrorist.
		Soon if they say that J6 prisoners should be released, you're an insurrectionist terrorist.
		So that's where this road ends.
		We don't quash this with censorship because that creates a worse underbelly.
		We quell it through leadership by calling it out.
		These university administrators have lost their way and we need leadership at the top in the United States of America that restores our founding values and that has no place for this kind of anti-Semitic hate.
		That's where I stand while respecting our Constitution.
unidentified		Your time is out.
unidentified		Senator Scott, let me get you to weigh in on what you said.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		Let me just say to every single university president in America, federal funding is a privilege, not a right.
		Number one.
		Number two.
		To every student who's come to our country on a visa to a college campus, your visa is a privilege, not a right.
		Number three.
		Any campus that allows for anti-Semitism and hate, to allow students to encourage terrorism, mass murder, mass murder and genocide, you should lose your federal funding today.
		Period.
		To all the students on visas who are encouraging Jewish genocide, I would deport you from those campuses.
		We have to stand strong with our Jewish Americans.
		At the end of the day, we should not have our Jewish students in a library being told to hide.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This echo is not good.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		On our streets in New York, a Jewish citizen has the right to walk on the streets of America with no fear.
		They have the right to go to college campuses, go to class and not fear.
		We will restore that.
		I started working on anti-Semitism on college campuses in 2017 because even then there was a rise of anti-Semitism on college campuses.
		We must force the people off those campuses and frankly, out of our country.
unidentified		Let me turn to Governor DeSantis here.
unidentified		What do you think about what he just said?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		I was the first presidential candidate to say, if you are here on a student visa as a foreign national, you're making common cause with Hamas, I'm canceling your visa and I'm sending you home.
		No questions asked.
		Second, I have friends here in Florida who, their kids do not feel safe even going to university campus at all outside of the state of Florida.
		You have Jewish students fleeing for their lives at Cooper Union.
		Joe Biden should have the Department of Justice on these college campuses and holding the universities accountable for civil rights violations.
		When you have, you should not have money going to these places.
		I already acted in Florida.
		We had a group of Students for Justice of Palestine.
		They said they are common cause with Hamas.
		They said we're not just in solidarity.
		This is what we are.
		We deactivated them.
		We're not going to use tax dollars to fund jihad.
		No way.
		And what is Biden doing?
		Not only is he not helping the Jewish students who are being persecuted, he is launching an initiative to combat so-called Islamophobia.
		No, it's the anti-Semitism that's spiraling out of control.
		That is what we have to confront.
		And as president, I can tell you this.
		We are not going to stand for this on college campuses any longer.
unidentified		All right, Governor, thank you.
		Let me turn to Governor Christie, and considering what he just said, you led a state with a sizable Muslim population.
		Last month, as you know, a six-year-old Palestinian-American boy was killed in Illinois by his landlord.
		His mother was also stabbed more than a dozen times in what has been charged as a hate crime.
		What do you say to Muslim Americans who are also feeling afraid for their safety right now?
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		Ambassador, I'm the only one in this state who's actually had experience in dealing with this.
		I was appointed by President Bush to be the U.S.
		Attorney in New Jersey on September 10th, 2001.
		And when I took over that job after the September 11th attacks, I had to deal with a situation in our state that was explosive.
		We're the most ethnically diverse state in this country.
		And so first, we heard credible reports about Jewish students and synagogues being threatened in our state in the aftermath of 9-11.
		We made sure that we sent federal agents to those synagogues and we protected them.
		The same thing should be being done now.
		At the very same time, I personally went from mosque to mosque in New Jersey and met with the leaders of those mosques and with the members of the mosques.
		And I said to them, law enforcement is on your side to protect you regardless of your religion.
		If you are going to comply with the law.
		And we developed fabulous relationships with Muslim Americans all across the state of New Jersey.
		And we stopped any hate crimes that were going on either against Jewish Americans in New Jersey or Muslim Americans in New Jersey.
		It takes leadership, Lester, to know how to do this.
		You must work with both sides.
		Both sides need to know it, but let us never have a false moral equivalence between Hamas and Hezbollah and the Jewish people.
		The Jewish people stand for right and justice and Hamas and Hezbollah stand for death.
unidentified		President Christie, thank you.
unidentified		Ambassador Haley, what do you say to Americans who are simply afraid right now in this current environment that we're talking about?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, you look at the country and the country is all out of sorts.
		I think, look at what these kids are dealing with on college campuses.
		What makes me so angry is, not only do you have the kids barricaded in the library, they've said they were going to shoot up the kosher dining hall.
		You've got kids' dorm rooms who are being set on fire because they have something related to Israel on their doors.
		No person should ever feel in danger like this.
		And this is what I would say about our college presidents.
		Is if the KKK were doing this, every college president would be up in arms.
		This is no different.
		You should treat it exactly the same.
		Anti-Semitism is just as awful as racism, and we've got to make sure they're protected.
		And for everybody that's protesting on these college campuses in favor of Hamas, let me remind you something.
		Hamas said death to Israel and death to America.
		They hate And the idea that they're talking about genocide for the Jewish people, that's not the values of America.
		That's not us.
		We're better than that.
		We don't need to celebrate terrorists.
		We don't need to celebrate genocide.
		We don't need to celebrate violence towards anybody.
		We need to go back and soul search in our country and remember what we are about.
		And we are about taking care of people, not going and making them live in fear because some other That's what they're doing in Gaza.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's what Israel is doing in Gaza right now.
unidentified		Lester, thank you.
		This is another question for the entire field, so you will all get a chance to respond, but Senator Scott, I'd like to start with you.
		The United States has given Ukraine financial and military support since the war began more than 600 days ago.
		President Zelensky told me on Sunday, if Russia isn't stopped now, quote, the price will be higher for the United States.
		And Americans would be forced to, quote, send your sons and daughters to defend NATO countries.
		Senator Scott, where do you stand on more funding for Ukraine?
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		I certainly have been very supportive of Ukraine.
		I believe that ultimately we should make sure that the president of the United States states what is America's national vital interest in Ukraine.
		It is actually in degrading the Russian military.
		We've been very effective using our resources and our weaponry and the incredibly high price of Ukrainian blood to achieve that objective.
		Every day we get closer to the degradation of the Russian military and that's good news.
		But the American people are frustrated that they do not have a president who reminds us and tells us, where's the accountability?
		Where are those dollars?
		How are those dollars being spent?
		We need those answers for us to continue to see the support for Ukraine.
		And at the same time, I would say that a package, a package that's been offered by the president for Ukraine and Israel That's the wrong approach.
		We need to focus specifically on providing Israel with the $14 billion that they need so that we show the world that we are 100% undeniably standing shoulder to shoulder with Israel.
		And then as we turn away from that direct support for Israel, we should go to our southern border and close our southern border with the resources necessary.
		I believe that we have sleeper terrorist cells in America.
		Thousands of people have come from Yemen, Iran, Syria, and Iraq.
		If we're going to deal with a national security emergency at our border, we have to do it now.
unidentified		Senator Scott, thank you, but just to be very clear, if you were president, if you were in the Oval Office today, would you sign off on more military funding for Ukraine or would you discontinue it?
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		Bottom line is we have to first have the level of accountability that allows the American people to understand where the resources have gone.
		Number one.
		Number two, after we have that responsibility taken care of and accountability, then we have an opportunity to look at the overall strategy that helps us degrade the Russian military while we use our resources and frankly keeping Our NATO partners safe from the Russian military is absolutely essential.
		As you understand, Article 5 would require to support and to defend NATO, our troops on the ground.
		The fastest way for us to eliminate that possibility is for us to destroy, to make it possible, the Russian military.
		By doing so, we actually achieve the objective of keeping our military home.
		And that's good news.
unidentified		Thank you, Senator Scott.
		Mr. Ramaswamy, are you persuaded by President Zelensky's urgent new plea?
		Where do you stand on more funding?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		I'm absolutely unpersuaded.
		I'm actually enjoying watching the Ukraine hawks quietly, delicately tiptoe back from their position as this thing has unwound into a disaster.
		The first half of this race, I was the only person standing for it.
		Now they're actually quietly coming around to being more cautious as they should.
		Level with the American people here.
		Ukraine is not a paragon of democracy.
		This is a country that has banned 11 opposition parties.
		It has consolidated all media into one state TV media arm.
		That's not democratic.
		It has threatened not to hold elections this year unless the U.S.
		forks over more money.
		That is not democratic.
		It has celebrated a Nazi in its ranks, the comedian in cargo pants, a man called Zelensky, doing it in their own ranks.
		That is not democratic.
		More facts for you that you won't hear from the mainstream in either party or the mainstream media.
		The regions of Ukraine that are occupied by Russia right now, in the Donbas, Luhansk, Donetsk, these are Russian-speaking regions that have not even been part of Ukraine since 2014, that other people probably couldn't name those provinces for you.
		Those are the hard facts.
		And so to frame this as some kind of battle between good versus evil, Don't buy it.
		And I'd like the likes of the sharpest of the war hawks on Ukraine, Nikki Haley, to have some accountability and answer.
		Do you want to use U.S.
		taxpayer money to fund the banning of Christians?
		That is actually what's happening.
		They're using the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
		They have banned them.
		The Ukrainian Parliament just did this last week, supported by our dollars.
		And I think you owe it to the American people, Nikki, to at least this one time at least condemn their banning of Christians.
unidentified		Mr. Ramaswamy, thank you.
		We asked the questions.
		Ambassador Haley, what is your take on more funding for Ukraine?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		I am telling you, Putin and President Xi are salivating at the thought that someone like that could become president.
		They would love to see it.
		The fact of the matter is she doesn't answer the question.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		We're driving Russia into China's hands.
unidentified		Mr. Ramaswamy, you had your time to talk.
unidentified		The ambassador has the floor.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		The first thing I'll tell you is We all remember what that thug did when he invaded Ukraine.
		We all know that half a million people have died because of Putin.
		And here is a freedom-loving, pro-American country that is fighting for its survival and its democracy.
		No, I don't think we should give them cash.
		I think we should give them the equipment and the ammunition to win.
		And I'll tell you, if Biden had done it when they first asked for it, this war would be over.
		But let's also remember this.
		When you left Afghanistan in shambles and left them with a ton of weapons and money, it's not that we left, it's how we left.
		When you look at Ukraine, don't think for a second, now everybody wants to move away from Ukraine, they'll want to move away from Israel a year from now.
		America can never be so arrogant to think we don't need friends.
		After 9-11, we needed a lot of friends.
		Now is the time to get partnerships.
		This unholy alliance between Russia, Ukraine, and China is real.
		There is a reason the Taiwanese want us to support the Ukrainians.
		It's because they know that China is coming after them next.
		There is a reason Ukrainians want us to support Israelis.
		Because they know that if Iran wins, Russia wins.
		We have to see the combination of the three.
unidentified		Governor Christie, what is your take?
unidentified		And how long should Americans be expected to help fund the war in Ukraine?
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		Kristen, let's remember the last time that we turned our back on a shooting war in Europe.
		It bought us just a couple of years.
		And then 500,000 Americans were killed in Europe to defeat Hitler.
		This is not a choice.
		This is the price we pay for being the leaders of the free world.
		And the fact is, this alliance is not just with Russia and China.
		Governor Haley knows this.
		Iran is in the middle of this as well, and so is North Korea.
		And they are all working to support Russia right now.
		And the reason they're doing it is because dictators work together.
		People who believe in democracy work together.
		We must stand with all of those that are standing up for democracy and freedom in this world.
		And by the way, let's remind everybody of this.
		In 1992, this country made a promise to Ukraine.
		We said if you return nuclear missiles that were part of the old Soviet Union to Russia, and they invade you, we will protect you.
		An American promise that's 31 years old is no different than an American promise that's made tonight on this stage.
		We need to stand by it.
		And those of us who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
unidentified		I'd like to respond.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		And the absolute giving in to dictators, which is being suggested on this stage, just shows the immaturity of the approach.
unidentified		Governor Christie, thank you.
		Governor DeSantis, I'd like you to weigh in on this idea.
		Are you concerned that this could become a wider war if Putin is not stopped now?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well, any suggestion by Zelensky or anyone else that we should, that we're going to eventually have U.S.
		troops there, I can tell the American people, when I'm president, that will not happen.
		We are not going to send your sons and daughters to Ukraine.
		I am going to send troops to our southern border.
		If you look at the threats that we face, terrorists have come in through our southern border.
		I'm going to shut it down.
		I'm going to have the military, and I'm going to deport the people who've come, particularly under Biden, who've come from the Middle East, come from all these places.
		Now, Biden wants $105 billion, 60, most of that's Ukraine, including some of it going to pay pensions for bureaucrats and salaries.
		That is a totally ridiculous use of American tax dollars.
		He says he has money for border to try to do, and the media will repeat that.
		When you look at it, what most of the money is, is money to process more illegally.
		illegal aliens into this country.
		How is that solving the problem?
		That's making the problem worse.
		And what does he do for the Indo-Pacific?
		A pittance.
		That is the top threat that we face.
		We need to bring this war to an end.
		We need a war with China.
		We need the Europeans to step up and do their fair share.
		And we need to get serious about the top threat that this country faces, which is the Chinese Communist Party.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Governor. Hugh.
unidentified		In fact, we are going to go from the hot wars in Ukraine and Gaza and Israel to what many people are calling the new Cold War with China.
		And I remind the audience that it's important for our visitors at home to be able to hear you and especially for the people in Beijing to hear you.
		Many Republicans believe that the Chinese Communist Party and General Secretary Xi is an existential threat to the United States.
		The flashpoint is Taiwan.
		For decades and decades, the American military, but primarily the United States Navy, has deterred an attack from China to the island state of Taiwan.
		But Ronald Reagan's Navy of 600 ships is gone.
		Now, the question to you is, and I'll start with you, Ambassador Haley, because you were in President Trump's cabinet.
		His goal was a 355-ship Navy.
		That's what he pushed for.
		He got to 300.
		It's now at 291.
		Is that big enough to deter and, if necessary, defeat an invasion of Taiwan?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		China has the largest naval fleet in the world.
		They have 350 ships.
		They'll have 400 ships in two years.
		We won't even have 350 ships in two decades.
		China has built up their military.
		It's not just land, air, and sea.
		They're doing cyber, they're doing artificial intelligence, they're doing space.
		America needs to modernize our military.
		We need to do everything we can.
		The first thing is, you go and you make sure you have the backs of Ukraine.
		That's why the Taiwanese want us to support Ukraine, because they know that sends the biggest message to China.
		The second thing is, we go to China and we start being tough on them.
unidentified		What?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		No more sales of our American soil to China.
		And let's take back what they've already stolen.
		Then you go and you to the universities, no more having millions of dollars go to our universities.
		Then we will go and end all formal trade relations with China until they stop murdering Americans from fentanyl.
		Something Ron has yet to say that he's going to do.
		And then we modernize our military.
		When we strengthen our military, when we modernize it with the focus of cyber artificial intelligence in space, when we make sure that we have the backs of our friends, whether it's in Israel, whether it's in Ukraine, and we should be arming Taiwan.
		Make sure they have the equipment they need.
		Make sure they have the training they need now.
		There's nothing China fears more than knowing that America will have Taiwan's back.
		Let's make sure that we show it by making sure they have the equipment they need.
unidentified		Governor DeSantis, my question is specifically about the Navy.
		It's at 291, it's going to go down perhaps as low as 280.
		Is it enough?
		And what would you build if you were going to build more?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Not enough.
		We have to have the ability to back up a strategy of denial of President Xi's ambitions.
		And if China's able to be the world's leading superpower, that will affect you and your family in ways that are going to be very bad.
		Export authoritarianism all around the world is the cost of doing business.
		They will impose things like social credit scores and Internet monitoring.
		So this is, to this generation, what the Soviet Union was to the post-World War II generation.
		I've already released a plan.
		We're going to get to 355 ships at the end of the first term, 385 ships at the end of the second term.
		But we're going to have a path to 600 ships over the next 20 years.
		I think the future of freedom is going to be determined in the Indo-Pacific.
		We have a strategy, not just military, but decoupling from the economy and fighting them here at home with their cultural.
		You know, Ambassador Haley said somehow I wasn't doing.
		She welcomed them into South Carolina, gave them land near a military base, wrote the Chinese ambassador a love letter saying what a great friend they were.
		That was like their number one way to do economic development.
		In Florida, I banned China from buying land in this state, and we kicked out.
		On our universities, and we kicked the Confucius Institutes out of our universities.
		We've recognized the threat, and we've acted swiftly and decisively.
unidentified		Senator Scott, you've been in the Congress since 2011.
		Defense spending has fallen over that entire period of time.
		Where are we going to get the money, and what would you build, and what kind of ships to deter China from attacking Taiwan?
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		Well, two major problems with the question here.
		Number one, we do not have currently a defense industrial bank to allow us to have the kind of production that we need in order to keep America safe.
		Frankly, if we are not prepared to fight and engage in three continents at the same time, Three!
		Think about where we are today.
unidentified		Now it's great.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		In the Middle East, we are in the midst of trying to back our strongest ally.
		In Eastern Europe, we've seen our resources and our weaponry help degrade the Russian military.
		The Indo-Pacific, we have real challenges.
		The long-term threat, the long-term threat is China.
		Immediate threat is our southern border.
		In order for us to have the military to fight three different continents at the exact same time, We're going to have to invest heavily in our military, but we're also going to have to invest heavily in an industrial base so that we can hit our objectives from a military perspective.
		Not only with our ships, but also with our planes.
		We are so old as a military that in order for us to recalibrate, we're going to have to invest.
		One of the things I do in my What would you build?
		Where would you build it?
		When would they be in the water?
		four million new jobs by having high-tech manufacturing come back to America, decoupling from China, so that we focus our attention on creating the industrial revolution that will be necessary for us to achieve the goal of having a military that is ready to be lethal and come so that we focus our attention on creating the industrial revolution that Senator, Mr. Ranuswamy, I'm looking for specifics.
unidentified		What would you build?
		Where would you build it?
		When would they be in the water?
		How big would the fleet get?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		First answer is end the toxic divest to invest program.
		For people who don't know about that, we're decommissioning ships in the South China Sea.
		The foundation of war is economics.
		Rebuild our defense industrial base at home.
		But here's the dirty little secret.
		Our actual defense industrial base depends on China for the supply chain, for the F-35 jets, for the ships that we're building.
		Think about this.
		Why are we stockpiling that if it isn't to actually be strong against our enemy, China?
		We depend on them for that.
		Just like we depend on them for pharmaceuticals.
		Just like we depend on them for semiconductors.
		So here's why we can't get tough with China.
		It's because we depend on them for our modern way of life.
		And we have to declare economic independence from our enemy.
		That's the Declaration of Independence that Thomas Jefferson, at the age of 33, would have signed.
		And today, if you were alive, that's the Declaration of Independence that I will sign as the next president.
		I do have to recognize that Rhonda Sanders was correct about acknowledging Nikki Haley's tough talk when she was ambassador to the UN, calling China our great friend, bringing the CCP to South Carolina.
		What he left out though, Ron, and be honest about it, there was a lobbying-based exemption in that bill that allowed Chinese nationals to buy land within a 20-mile radius of a military base lobbied for by one of your donors.
		So I think we have to call a spade a spade.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, let's go.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		We need politicians who are independent of the forces that increase our dependence on China.
		My message to Xi Jinping is this.
		You are done buying land in this country.
		You will not donate to universities in this country.
unidentified		U.S.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		businesses won't expand into the Chinese market until you play by the same set of rules.
		You're kicked out of the WTO, and you actually have to have accountability for the COVID-19 pandemic financially, which unleashed hell on the world.
		We have to hold them accountable.
		I think that we need to increase our naval capacity by at least 20% over the course of the next several years.
		...be able to meet our AUKUS agreement standards.
		Right now we are at risk of not even being able to meet our AUKUS standards with Australia and the UK.
		So what we need to do is have a plan that reverses the trajectory of the Divest-to-Invest program by 20% over the next three years.
unidentified		Governor Christie?
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		You know, my first observation, Hugh, is that nobody answers your...
		And my second observation is these three in the middle think they're the enemy.
		I know China is the enemy.
		And that's what we should be focused on.
		So let's be really clear.
		The nuclear submarines in this United States Navy is the greatest deterrent to Chinese aggression, and that is the first place I would go to increase American naval power.
		Our nuclear submarines are able to move stealthily, quietly, and effectively, and if we are going to deter China from invading Taiwan, the only way we're going to do it is to make sure that they don't know.
		Whether how many nuclear submarines from the United States of America are in the South China Sea and in that area and ready to strike on them if they decide to move on Taiwan.
		And so we, as our first priority, need to go directly to our nuclear sub-program queue and we need to increase it drastically.
		That would be priority number one.
		Ships would come next, but to me, the ships are secondary choice here.
		The submarines are the single most important thing that we could be deterring, that we could be using to deter China.
		But the other thing we could do to deter China is to let them know that the blood money they're spending for Russia in Ukraine right now will not be effective.
		That we send Putin home with his tail between his legs and make them understand that the same fate waits for them if they decide to move towards Taiwan with a more aggressive nuclear sub-program.
		We'll be able to make that threat real.
unidentified		Thank you, Governor.
		We're going to take a brief pause now and we'll be back to the Republican presidential primary debate.
		Please stay tuned.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, pretty good debate so far.
		The second one, if you remember, was terrible.
		It was just very poorly run.
		Everybody was interrupting each other, talking over each other.
		They didn't even do closing statements.
		So, if you remember, if you're with me for the second one, the second one was just like a total disaster.
		So this one was pretty good.
		I thought the moderators were on top of it.
		There wasn't any interrupting, with the exception of Vivek jumped in there a little bit.
		The questions have been good, relevant.
		Obviously, you know, the Gaza War is in the news.
		So I think the debate's been pretty good so far, and I think Vivek is doing a really good job.
		I think he took my advice.
		I don't know if he literally saw my show, because he's on top of it.
		He came out swinging right at the beginning, a lot stronger.
		He's not smiling as much.
		He's not as congenial or whatever.
		So to me, he's coming across a lot tougher, which I like.
		That's my biggest criticism of him so far, or has been historically, is that he lets Tim Scott and Nikki Haley walk all over him, and Mike Pence before he dropped out.
		So, I noticed that he was a lot tougher tonight.
		The other thing is, his answers are pretty unbelievably good.
		And it's tricky because, of course, honestly, none of these candidates can really come out against Israel.
		It'd just be political suicide.
		I recognize that.
		You know what I'm about.
		You know how I choose to talk on these issues, but running for national office at a time like this, it's suicide to be anything but completely supportive, more or less.
		And so I thought Vivek, he navigated in sort of a clever way, like he was asked about the colleges.
		And he said, he sort of did a direct pivot and said, well anti-Semitism is one thing, but they were anti-white and anti-Christian first.
		I don't think I've ever heard anti-white on the debate stage, ever.
		from either side, Republicans or Democrats.
		So that was really good to hear.
		And I thought it was a clever pivot.
		And the other thing which is key is he said he's against censorship.
		And that's really important.
		He said, we have to draw the line and say that we can oppose pro-Palestine rhetoric, which is whatever he said, but we can't censor it.
		And that's really critical because that is what DeSantis has done.
		And that's what they would like to implement at the national level.
		So So protecting the First Amendment on this is protecting criticism of Israel and independence to some extent of action from Israel in American life.
		So that was good.
		I also thought a statement on Ukraine was phenomenal.
		I mean he really went for the jugular on Ukraine.
		He got a great attack across on Nikki Haley.
		What else did he say at the beginning?
		I think he said about... He had one other really excellent answer.
		His opening statement was great.
		What did he say in the opening statement?
		I already forget, honestly.
		Nikki Haley went for Trump.
		I said at the beginning it was sort of an innovation.
		She said, well, Trump was the right guy for the right time, but he's wrong for now.
		And you know what that represents to me?
		Nikki Haley is becoming competitive.
		I think that she's competing for this spot to take on Trump on behalf of the establishment.
		She's competing with DeSantis for this.
		And DeSantis has very cautiously avoided attacking Trump too directly because he recognizes that It would be very difficult for him to win the nomination if he goes all in on Trump.
		But Haley went in on Trump in a unique way, where she sort of recognized Trump's success in the beginning and his popularity, but criticized him for his record.
		But what she represents is the backsliding towards the establishment, where she said he's getting weak in the knees on foreign policy.
		And what that means is, like, he's too anti-war to be a Republican.
		And the Republican Party, as evidenced by this debate, is going to be the pro-war party again.
		against Russia, China, Iran.
		Anyway, but we're back here.
		Vivek's doing a phenomenal job.
		I'm giving him like 9 out of 10 right now.
unidentified		Very good. ...who is chairman of the House Bipartisan Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, published a long essay on TikTok following the flooding of pro-Hamas propaganda on the TikTok accounts.
		across the United States.
		Chairman Gallagher called it shocking.
		He called the app predatory, controlled by America's preeminent adversary.
		One used to push propaganda and divide America, it's spyware, he said, a means of surveillance.
		Governor Christie, do you agree with Chairman Gallagher?
		And if so, would you ban or force the sale of TikTok?
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		I agree 100% with Chairman Gallagher.
		And let me say this.
		TikTok is not only spyware.
		It is polluting the minds of American young people all throughout this country.
		And they're doing it intentionally.
		And when you saw what happened in the last few weeks with all of this anti-Semitic, horrible stuff that their algorithms were pushing out at a gargantuan rate, This is China trying to further divide the United States of America.
		And this is one of the big failings among many of the Trump administration.
		He talked tough about TikTok.
		I heard him do it many times.
		But when it came down to it, he did not ban them when he could have and should have.
		And now since then, we've had an additional nearly six years of this type of poison be put out throughout the United States, even putting aside the spying, which we know is going on in the theft of American personal data and information.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, what a joke.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		So, in my first week as president, we would ban TikTok.
		They want to go ahead and sell it, let them go ahead and sell it.
		But I'll tell you another reason we would do it.
		Facebook's not in China.
		X is not in China.
		They're not permitting a free flow of information to the Chinese people from our social media companies, yet we just open the door and let them do what they're doing.
		TikTok should be banned because they are poisoning American minds, and I would do it week one.
unidentified		Thank you, Governor.
		I want to go to Governor DeSantis.
		Would you ban or force the sale of TikTok regardless of whether or not China allowed American apps to operate in China?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I think that China's the top threat we face.
		They've been very effective at infiltrating different parts of our society.
		So my policy on China and the Chinese Communist Party is very simple.
		We win, they lose.
		And in order to do that, it's not just military, it's economic and it's cultural.
		And as the dad of a 6'5 and a 3-year-old, I'm concerned about the data that they're getting from our young people and what they're doing to pollute the minds.
		of our young people.
		These kids get these devices and they have a mind of their own.
		And I know a lot of parents are looking.
		It's hard to even keep it out.
		China's obviously the most extreme, but this is happening with other things.
		So we are going to do that and we are going to make sure to protect the American people.
		It's a full spectrum approach to be able to fend China off.
		Yes, military deterrence.
		Yes, economic decoupling, but also their role in our culture.
		If we don't ignore that, we're not going to be able to win the fight.
unidentified		Thank you, Governor.
		Ambassador Haley, speak to the parents out there.
		They're probably TikTok apps on half the phones in this auditorium.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm going to speak to the fact that two people hit me and you didn't let me respond.
		So let's first talk about the fact that they want to talk about the Chinese land from 10 years ago.
		Yes, I brought a fiberglass company 10 years ago to South Carolina.
		But Ron, you are the chair of your economic development agency that, as of last week, said Florida is the ideal place for Chinese businesses.
		Not only that, you have a company that is manufacturer of Chinese military planes.
		You have it.
		They are expanding two training sites at two of your airports now, one which is 12 miles away from a naval base.
		Then you have another company.
		company that's expanding and they were just invaded by the Department of Homeland Security.
		So mine was 10 years ago.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You gave them stuff.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		I didn't give them anything.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		What's your story?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		And I abolished that agency that she's talking about.
unidentified		No.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Enterprise Florida.
		We abolished it.
		And of course, we banned China from buying land.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		He scrubbed the website last week.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Not exactly a great recruiting pitch if you're banning them from purchasing land.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		You scrubbed the website last week.
unidentified		Thank you, Ambassador Haley.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Florida.
unidentified		Mr. Ramaswamy, we've talked about this.
		You campaign on TikTok.
		How do you get TikTok banned if you use it?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I want to laugh at why Nikki Haley didn't answer your question, which is about looking at families in the eye.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		In the last debate, she made fun of me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time, so you might want to take care of your family first.
unidentified		The next generation of Americans will use it.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		And that's actually the point.
		You have her supporters crapping her up.
		That's fine.
		Here's the truth.
		The easy answer is actually to say that we're just going to ban one app.
		We got to go further.
		We have to ban any U.S.
		company actually transferring U.S.
		data to the Chinese.
		Here's a story most people don't know.
		Airbnb hands over U.S.
		user data to the CCP.
		Now that's a U.S.
		owned company.
		So this is the problem when you have Republicans that temporarily go the way the winds blow and now it's popular to talk tough on China when she was U.N.
		ambassador, called them literally her words, not mine, our great friend.
		You can't be fair weather fans of the right policy.
		Get to the root cause.
		Even U.S.
		companies in Silicon Valley are regularly doing it.
		Cut the virtue signaling.
		The fact of the matter is Democrats are on TikTok today.
		The only person, one of the few people, who is putting up content the way the actual algorithms work, speaking for pro-Israel views or others, is me.
		More Republicans will join it.
		But stop U.S.
		companies from turning over data to Chinese companies.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		You know, when he talks about me praising China, he doesn't know the fact that the reason China was praised was because I negotiated with China and Russia the largest set of sanctions against North Korea in a generation.
		We are the—that is literally the reason North Korea stopped testing ballistic missiles.
		So I said China did good on their part.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		That was a negotiation— You said they were our great friend, is what you said, Nikki.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		Those are your words, not mine, and so just own up to it.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		You would never— You can change your mind.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		That's allowed.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		But don't lie to the people about what you've said or what you've done in South Carolina.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		I have fought against China my entire career at the United Nations.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		You have brought them to South Carolina.
		Ron is right about that.
		Every day I fought China.
		And I did it by making sure no one could get any agency heads in the UN.
		I did it by making sure that we called them out on human rights.
		I did it by making sure that we held them accountable on everything that they did.
		That's the reason we got out of the Human Rights Council.
		That's the reason we called them out.
		And I have, there's nothing to say I haven't started.
unidentified		Senator Scott, it is your turn.
		Everybody else is hanging on to the rules here, Mr. Ramaswamy.
		Senator Scott.
		I appreciate y'all clapping for me already.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		What we should do is ban TikTok, period.
		Now we saw under former President Trump, he tried to ban TikTok twice, but was struck down by our federal courts.
		If you cannot ban TikTok, you should eliminate the Chinese presence on the app.
		Period.
		We also should provide, in my parents' Bill of Rights, we give parents the opportunity to give their kids permission under 14 to be on those apps.
		I think it's incredibly important for us as Americans to take back control of the information, especially of our kids.
		Where does it go?
		We should know that.
		One of the ways that we get to know that is by having a parental consent.
		But if we can eliminate TikTok, that is a first step.
		But it's not just TikTok.
		China continues to spy on our kids, but they're also buying our farmlands.
		We talked about this several times there.
		We have to make sure that we use the tools Thank you, Senator.
		kit to stop China from buying farmland near our bases.
		The third thing we have to do is make sure that they stop stealing our intellectual property.
		They're literally stealing our IP to compete against us.
		My administration, we stopped that day one, and we start making sure that we create six figure income for jobs made in America through my strategy.
		Kristen.
unidentified		Thank you so much.
		We're now going to talk about Venezuela, where millions have fled political and economic turmoil.
		Many Venezuelan immigrants are settling right here in Florida.
		Former President Trump and President Biden have taken different approaches to Nicolás Maduro's regime with little result.
		Former President Trump put economic pressure on Venezuela and backed one of Maduro's rivals.
		President Biden temporarily eased sanctions to encourage electoral reforms.
		Governor DeSantis, do you see the political situation in Venezuela as a threat to the United States and what would your approach be?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		We should never rely on Venezuela for oil like Biden has had to go beg.
		I'm going to unleash all of America's energy potential.
		On day one, I'm taking all the Biden regulations, the Green New Deal, ripping it up and throwing it in the trash can where it belongs.
		We're going to lower your gas prices.
		We're going to create jobs, we're going to lower energy costs, but we're also going to be more energy independent and secure.
		We'll choose Midland over Moscow, we'll choose the Marcellus over the Mulas, and we'll choose Bakken over Beijing.
		That is good for America's national security.
		Biden's Green New Deal, that's good for Venezuela, it's good for Russia, it's good for Iran, and it's good for China.
		So I would turn the screws on the Venezuelan regime.
		I think it's a corrupt dictatorial regime and we should never go hat in hand begging for oil from them.
unidentified		Just to be clear, would you reimpose the sanctions?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
unidentified		Ambassador Haley, what would your approach be?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		You know, I stood on the Simon Boulevard Bridge and watched thousands of Venezuelans cross for hours in the hot sun, holding their babies to get the one meal they might get that day, going from Venezuela to Colombia.
		They were fleeing socialism and begging for freedom.
		We need to make sure that we do everything we can to sanction Maduro.
		We shouldn't be getting dirty oil.
		And Biden just gave 500,000 Venezuelans temporary priority status, which is just going to have more of them come.
		But on the energy side, it cracks me up that Ron continues to do this.
		He has opposed fracking.
		He's opposed drilling.
		Last time he said it wasn't true, and everybody found out that it was true.
		He opposed it before Florida voters even voted on it.
		He was praised by the Sierra Club.
		And you're trying to make up for it and act like you weren't a liberal when it comes to You were.
		You always have been.
		Just own it, if that's the case.
		But don't keep saying you're something that you're not.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Let me respond to that.
		So, our whole energy plan, you can't get the shale without fracking.
		We are absolutely going to frack, but I disagree with Nikki Haley.
		I don't think it's a good idea to drill in the Florida Everglades, and I know most Floridians agree with me.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		You banned fracking.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
		Thank you.
		Let's turn to one of the biggest issues for voters, that of course is the economy.
		This is a question that will go to all of you.
		An Iowa voter recently told NBC News, how am I going to make sure my pantry stock without breaking the bank?
		You've all said the best way to deal with rising prices is to cut government spending.
		But that would take time to play out and Americans are struggling right now.
		Senator Scott, I'll start with you.
		What would you do the moment you take office to help Americans manage the cost of living?
		So we're talking about short term here.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		My mother was a single mother who raised me and my brother in a very challenging economic situation.
		The first thing I can tell you is that when your gas prices are 40% higher right now than they were just a little over two years ago, that's not a problem for my mama.
		That was a crisis.
		The first thing I would do as President of the United States is I would sign the XL Keystone Pipeline and start seeing resources flow.
		Second thing I would do is make sure that there's certainty and predictability so that those folks who have the leases in our country would have the certainty and predictability to go ahead and become energy independent.
		We should focus not just on being energy independent, we should focus on being energy dominant.
		America is the home to more energy resources than any other country on the planet.
		We can reduce the price of energy.
		We can reduce the price of food and the price of electricity if we focus on my build here, don't borrow from China plan that is embedded.
		The made in America strategy creates 10 million new jobs in three different areas.
		One is innovation.
		Second is the high-tech manufacturing.
		And the third is the energy economy.
		We have an opportunity as Americans to actually export the surplus energy that we create in our nation and disconnect from China and from murderous dictators and tyrants around the world.
unidentified		Your time is up, but let me just follow up.
		The idea of pumping gas, of turning on pipelines, that doesn't make gas cheaper that day.
		I'm talking about you become president.
		What can you do specifically to help people feel better about their situation or be better with their situation?
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		Well actually it does, to be honest with you.
		The way that the economy works is it works on the ability to anticipate excess supply versus the demand.
		When that happens Confidence drives our prices down because we know there's going to be a greater surplus.
		When you allow for those who have leases to actually start drilling, to start using those leases for more energy excavation, you put our economy in the strongest position.
		And as a result of that, prices start going down.
		That is the kind of economy that, as President of the United States, I would lead this nation to making sure that we first use the resources in our own country and not going outside of our country in order to achieve our objective.
		You know, Proverbs 22, 7 reminds us that the borrower is slave to the lender.
		We have become an indentured servant too often to countries like China.
		By having an energy economy, we start allowing this nation to once again return as a city on the hill.
unidentified		He's doing as good as he can.
		He's fighting for his life.
		You ticked off a number of things a moment ago, but some specific examples of ways that would put people on a better economic footing right away.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		So I started off working minimum wage jobs.
		I did $6 an hour as an electrician's assistant.
		I worked all kinds of things to be able to get through school, and I did that because I believed in America.
		If you work hard and get the most out of your God-given ability, you can get ahead.
		And what's happening now, many of you are working hard, and you're falling further and further behind.
		I've met people in Iowa, New Hampshire, and all across the country who've talked about all the burdens that they're facing with the rising prices.
		And I've heard from multiple people the same story.
		When they go grocery shopping, what they now do is they figure out what they have to take out of the cart once it's ringing up, because it rings up so much faster and so much higher at the cash register that they can't afford the full cart of groceries anymore.
		We have to restore the American dream in this country.
		What can you do on day one?
		Here's what I'm going to do.
		I'm going to take all the executive orders, the regulations, everything involving Bidenomics.
		I'm going to rip it up.
		I'm going to throw it in the trash can on day one where it belongs.
		That is going to give the economy breathing room.
		And I'm also going to rein in the Federal Reserve.
		They have helped create with their reckless monetary policy what we have faced since the COVID-19 pandemic.
		They botched it.
		Congress botched it.
		Both parties are to blame.
		Fed should focus on stable prices.
		They are not an economic central planner for the American people.
unidentified		Governor, thank you.
		Mr. Ramaswamy, weigh in on this.
		Ways that you can improve people's financial condition in the short term.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		Right, and as a CEO, the economic question is core to my vision and policy prescription for this country.
		Increase the supply of everything.
		It's the law of supplies and demand.
		Increase the supply of energy.
		That brings down the cost of energy, grows the economy.
		Drill, frack, burn coal, embrace nuclear.
		Increase the supply of labor in this country.
		Stop using our taxpayer money to pay people more to stay at home instead of to go to work.
		Increase the supply of housing.
		People don't talk about this one in the Republican Party.
		The land use restrictions are constricting the supply of housing.
		That's making housing more expensive for ordinary Americans across this country.
		So that's the true answer.
		And I think it takes a CEO in the White House who actually understands this to get this done.
		Because Americans at home, they know that Bidenomics is a lie.
		Prices are going up.
		Interest rates and mortgages to buy your home are going up.
		But wages have remained flat.
		That's the hard diagnosis for our economy.
		And this is about more than just our economy.
		I say this as a member of my generation.
		I'm 38 years old.
		I'm the youngest person ever to run for U.S.
		President as a Republican.
		The reason my generation has lost our sense of national pride, in part, is because people in my generation feel like the American Dream isn't available to them.
		And part of the reason why is we burdened them with four-year college degrees that did not serve their head start on the American Dream.
		People will be more proud of a country if we're all making more money in that country.
		This is how we revive national pride in our identity, and it will take a CEO in the White House with zero-based budgeting, by the way, to take on the federal debt to get this job done.
unidentified		Let me turn to Governor Christie on that.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		Lester, part of the entire premise of the question, and I agree with Tim on this, is absolutely energy is the key to this because it drives every one of those other prices.
unidentified		Energy is key because you're all getting paid by energy.
unidentified		And those truckers have to pay for fuel, for the higher fuel prices.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		And when you go ahead and you tell people, we are going to unleash every bit of American energy, Every bit of its potential.
		What happens in the futures markets?
		The prices go down.
		Because those people who are believing that the Biden program will continue are the ones who are bidding this up.
		And let me take the other place that's bidding it up.
		In the Middle East.
		And so if you don't believe that making sure that Israel and that Israel situation that's going on right now...
		Isn't resolved and resolved quickly as President of the United States and brings stability back that will also not permit countries like Saudi Arabia and others to be able to jack their prices as well in what they say is in response to a crisis when it's really what it's in response to is putting more money in their pockets.
		When they have an American president who knows that Israel must be defended not with humanitarian pauses and not with suggestions for ceasefire but with letting them know we will supply them with everything they need No.
		also brings stability to the market.
		Energy is the key to bringing this down.
		It's what every American family needs when they turn on their lights, fill up their car, and go to the grocery store.
		And we need to do that first and foremost.
		That's the short-term answer.
unidentified		Governor Christie, thank you.
		Ambassador Haley, let me come at this from a slightly different direction.
		Americans in rural communities are being especially squeezed by inflation right now.
		An Iowa State University study found that last year inflation cost rural households about an extra $5,000.
		How would you specifically help rural Americans who are suffering right now, Ambassador?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm a product of rural America.
		I grew up in rural South Carolina.
		And I can tell you what we're seeing now in America is the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
		We have to go and start beefing up the middle class.
		And the first thing I would do is I would eliminate the federal gas and diesel tax in this country.
		We'll cut taxes on the middle class.
		But we have to stop this spending binge that's happening by Republicans and Democrats in Congress.
		I will make sure, one, we claw back the $500 billion of unspent COVID dollars that are out there.
		Instead of 87,000 IRS agents going after middle America, we'll go after the hundreds of billions of dollars of COVID fraud that exist, one out of every $7.
		No, I didn't take any money.
		I didn't even get a COVID check, okay?
		So just pay back off.
		Don't even.
		I didn't get any PPP money.
		That will cut trillions and allow us to be safe.
		We also need to be not energy independent, energy dominant.
		We are blessed with resources.
		Let's do it.
		But the reason no one should give you a number, Hugh, on the amount of ships in the Navy is because in a few years, our interest expense is going to be more than our defense budget.
		So no one can give you that number realistically without first tackling what's happening with the financial situation.
		It would be a false number to give you that.
		We have got to understand this is a crisis.
		It is a national security concern.
		If we don't deal with what's going to happen with that interest expense in a few years, we're going to look like Japan.
		And we can't let that happen.
		The strong dollar matters.
unidentified		Ambassador, thank you very much.
		Kristen.
		Americans could see Americans could see their Social Security benefits drastically cut in the next decade because the program is running out of money.
		Former President Trump has said, quote, under no circumstances should Republicans cut entitlements.
		Governor Christie, first to you, you have proposed raising the retirement age for younger Americans.
		What would that age be specifically and would you consider making any other reforms to Social Security?
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		Sure, and we have to deal with this problem.
		Now look, if we raise the retirement age a few years for folks that are in their 30s and 40s, I have a son who's in the audience tonight that's 30 years old.
		If he can't adjust to a few year increase in social security retirement age over the next 40 years, I've got bigger problems with him than his social security payments.
		And the fact is, we need to be realistic about this.
		There are only three things.
		I don't know if Warren Buffett is collecting Social Security, but if he is, shame on you.
		You shouldn't be taking the money.
		for the program in general and taxes.
		That's it.
		We are already overtaxed in this country and we should not raise those taxes.
		But on eligibility also, I don't know if out there tonight and if you're watching Warren, I don't know if Warren Buffett is collecting Social Security, but if he is, shame on you.
		You shouldn't be taking the money.
		There are a lot of programs in this country that we all pay for, that we don't get a direct benefit from.
		Food stamps is one of them.
		I've never, fortunately in my life, ever had me or my family on food stamps.
		But I'm glad it's there so that no one in this country goes to bed hungry at night if they have availability to that program.
		But I don't get a direct benefit.
		The fact is on Social Security, remember why it was established.
		It was established as a safety net program to make sure that no one would grow old in this country in poverty.
unidentified		That's what we got to get back to.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		Rich people should not be collecting Social Security.
unidentified		Governor, can you give me a specific age?
unidentified		69, 70, what would the age be?
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		No, look, that's going to be a power of negotiation with Congress, Kirsten.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		And hell, I'm not going to start negotiating until I get there.
unidentified		Alright, Ambassador Haley, let me have you weigh in on this because you said in June that you would be open to raising the retirement age.
unidentified		Have you determined what that age would be specifically and what other reforms are you looking at?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		So first of all, any candidate that tells you that they're not going to take on entitlements is not being serious.
		Social Security will go bankrupt in 10 years, Medicare will go bankrupt in 8.
		Right now you have Ron and Trump joining Biden and Pelosi saying they're not going to change or do any sort of entitlement reform.
		What we need to do is keep our promises.
		Those that have been promised should keep it.
		But for like my kids in their 20s, you go and you say we're going to change the rules.
		You change the retirement age for them.
		Instead of cost of living increases, we should go to increases based on inflation.
		We should limit Limit benefits on the wealthy.
		Bernie Marcus can tell you he hates getting that check.
		Limit the benefits on the wealthy.
		And then expand Medicare Advantage plans.
		Seniors love that.
		And let's make sure we do that so they can have more competition.
		That's how we'll deal with entitlement reform and that's how we'll start to pay down this debt.
unidentified		And can you give me a specific age?
unidentified		Have you determined the age?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		Again, you have to work with... Chris, what I can tell you is it's going to be those in their 20s just coming into the system and it should reflect more of life expectancy.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't do that now.
unidentified		Alright, Mr. Ramaswamy, have you determined if you would touch entitlements and Social Security?
unidentified		What, if any, reforms are you looking at?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		So this is really important right now.
		We're working within the last window, I believe, we will have to actually fix this problem while still leaving Social Security and Medicare benefits for current seniors intact.
		I'll tell you how.
		The other candidates assume, like Nikki, that it can't be done.
		And on her math, she's right about it.
		But her math assumes $7 trillion of our $33 trillion national debt going to fight wars like in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.
unidentified		Hey, let's go!
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		Minus that, our national debt would be $26 trillion right now.
		Then you go to zero-based budgeting, which I've proposed as a CEO.
		It's how I've run businesses.
		It's how many CEOs run businesses.
		Don't use last year's budget as the baseline.
		Start with zero as the baseline and then ask what's actually necessary.
		75% headcount reduction.
		Yes, that is severe.
		In the number of federal employees in the Washington, D.C.
		bureaucracy.
		Shut down redundant agencies that should not exist.
		Deliver economic growth as a positive tailwind.
		I think we can get to three, four, maybe even Five percent GDP growth if we really take the regulatory shackles off of our economy.
		And against that backdrop, I believe this is our last best window to be able to take care of our national debt problem through those severe measures, including sacrificing the foreign wars that many bloodthirsty members of both parties have a hunger for.
		That's the one secret for how we're going to be able to do this, and that requires discipline.
		So we can't have the first conversation we were having sending foreign aid willy-nilly to countries whose national debt per capita is less than ours.
		But if we do this correctly, I think this is our last window and it'll take a CEO from the next generation to do it.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
		Senator Scott, weigh in here.
		What are you looking at to keep Social Security sustainable?
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		The bottom line is a simple one.
		We have to grow our economy and cut our spending.
		Let me just say to my mama and every other mama or grandfather receiving Social Security, as President of the United States, I will protect your Social Security.
		The fact is that we're spending today about 1.1 trillion dollars on Social Security, about 750 billion dollars on Medicare, about 300 billion dollars on Medicaid, about 400 billion dollars on veterans benefits, 1.7 trillion dollars on annual appropriations, If we're going to actually tame this tiger, the way you do it is not by picking on seniors who have paid into a program that deserve their money coming back out to them.
		The way you deal with it is, number one, you have to grow your economy.
		My plan, Made in America, creates 10 million new jobs, grows our economy at 5%.
		By doing so, you add trillions of dollars of economic activity and billions of dollars to your treasury.
		You have to cut taxes.
		When we cut taxes in 2017, I wrote the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
		Everybody said, well, guess what?
		Revenue will go down.
		Well, in 2018, after we wrote it in 2017, what happened?
		Revenue went up by 3%.
		And the next year, it went up by another 3%.
		So what we know is that the Laffer Curve still works.
		The lower the tax, the higher the revenue.
		And finally, if we're going to deal with it, we have to take our annual appropriations back to pre-2020, pre-COVID levels of spending, which will save us about a half a trillion dollars in the next budget window.
		By doing that, we deal with Social Security and our mandatory spending.
unidentified		Thank you, Senator.
		Very quickly, would you raise the retirement age?
		Would you be open to raising the retirement age, or do you rule that out?
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		All you have to do is go to a farm in Iowa and watch the hard work and the dedication.
		You and I are having a conversation.
		My answer is no, but listen to this, before you go on.
		Thank you.
		The fact of the matter is that the more physical your labor, a year or two or three more is actually challenging to the physical body.
		You and I might have a different perspective, but for those farmers, they're working night and day.
unidentified		Thank you Senator, I appreciate it.
		Governor DeSantis, finally to you.
		Would you be open to raising the retirement age and how would you keep Social Security sustainable?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well look, as Governor of Florida, I know a few people on Social Security and I know it's important.
		My grandmother lived till 91 and Social Security was her sole source of income and that's true for a lot of seniors throughout this country.
		So what I'd say to seniors in America, promise made, promise kept.
		I understand what you're going through with the rising prices, and you need that Social Security check.
		So we'll make sure to get that done.
		What can you do to help shore up Social Security?
		One of the things that's causing problems is the inflation.
		We have to reduce inflation.
		When you have higher inflation, the seniors get a cost of living adjustment, which means the program's spending more, but it doesn't cover the increase in the actual inflation rate.
		We also do need to get to at least 3% growth.
		You're never going to be able to have issues, be able to solve the budget without that.
		But I would note this.
		Congress for decades took money from Social Security.
		Social Security would have more tax revenue than it put out.
		They would take it, and then they'd write an IOU to Social Security.
		Congress has a lot of dirty hands on this.
		I'm going to force Congress to stop spending so much money.
		And you know, one thing we have to talk about the retirement age is just something that's changed in the last four or five years.
		Life expectancy in the United States is declining.
unidentified		So Governor, yes or no, would you raise it?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Would you raise the retirement age?
		When life expectancy is declining, I don't see how you could raise it the other direction.
		So it's one thing to peg it on life expectancy, but we have had a significant decline in life expectancy in this country.
		And that's just a fact.
unidentified		Alright, Governor DeSantis, thank you.
		Thank you, candidates.
		And we will be right back after a quick break from Miami, Florida.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good debate.
		You know, I actually don't mind this debate that much because it cut out all the dead weight.
		I mean, we were listening to, who was that guy, Burgum?
		Doug Burgum and Mike Pence and just a lot of idiocy.
		But this debate was pretty good.
		I mean, these are the best guys.
		These are the most well-spoken ones.
		Not good in terms of what they're about.
		But it's been a pretty engaging debate.
		I think it's been they kept it moving and fast paced and everybody's at the top of their game.
		So I've liked it so far.
		I think Vivek is great.
		As far as confronting China and the economy, I actually agree with all that stuff.
		We do have to decouple from China.
		We do have to re-industrialize America.
		Tim Scott is right about the industrial base.
		That is the problem.
		China has the largest fleet because it builds ships at a much higher rate.
		And same is true with Russia building ammunition.
		We can't build like that because we don't have industry and Vivek is also right that our supply chains run through China.
		So theoretically if we wanted to Confront China ever be a major problem because we get radar and sensors and all kinds of things through China even down to the raw materials that they have so I Agree with all that stuff and I agree on the entitlements.
		I mean, it's just true that the What is the expression about the chickens coming home to roost or whatever?
		That we're finally reaching the end of the fiscal problem here.
		And Nikki Haley said it, which is that the interest payment is going to be bigger than the defense budget soon.
		And Social Security and Medicare going bankrupt.
		Everybody knows that.
		And the deficits have been out of control for the past, ever since COVID, for the past three years.
		And DeSantis is right about the quantitative easing.
		So they're all right about that.
		They're all right about entitlements being too high and revenue being too low and spending being out of control.
		The money's being loose.
		That's all true.
		And I agree with most of that.
		I agree with the VEC.
		I honestly probably align the most with the VEC.
		I think that America does not have its full economic potential with regulation, with housing, with energy, all that stuff.
		And the other thing is tariffs.
		No, that's the other thing.
		Nobody talks about trade.
		Nobody's been... The biggest thing that Trump innovated in 16 is that he brought trade back into the conversation.
		Trade was a very big conversation in the 90s when this was happening.
		When NAFTA was signed and when America began to de-industrialize.
		It's actually a relatively recent phenomenon that we've lost a manufacturing base.
		So that was a big part of the election with Ross Perot and others.
		And Trump put that issue back on the map with the discussion about tariffs and said, if you bring factories overseas, we will put a tariff on the goods that you export.
		And so there's been no discussion about trade, which is interesting, but that's a huge part of this supply-side conversation.
		So anyway, so I agree with them mostly.
		The thing that pissed me off the most, though, is about TikTok.
		They say that the TikTok is national security, but it's also culture.
		They say that TikTok is polluting the minds of the youth.
		You know this is coming from the national security state because all the social media companies are doing that.
		TikTok is just the best.
		TikTok is just the most competitive, innovative product.
		It is attracting more users more quickly than any other major platform in the world.
		There's poison coming from YouTube.
		There's poison coming from Instagram and Facebook.
		And what do you think Snapchat is for?
		Snapchat is for middle schoolers to send nudes, or at least it was, you know, 10 years ago.
		It's not as popular these days.
		But they're saying that because it's Chinese.
		So no one wants to take on big tech because they're probably receiving money from big tech and big tech's powerful.
		So this, you know, going after TikTok is not tough.
		It's a load of shit.
		You know, TikTok is good.
unidentified		150 arrests of people on the terror watch list.
		It can mean the burden on states from having migrants move into their states from the southwestern border.
		But I want to talk about opioids specifically and fentanyl.
		And I'll start with you, Senator Scott.
		Tens of thousands of Americans' families have suffered a death to fentanyl.
		Young people sometimes die taking one pill.
		What can you do as commander-in-chief on the first day to stop fentanyl and the waterfall of it into this country?
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		Well, number one, we should close our southern border.
		For $10 billion, we could close our southern border.
		For an additional $5 billion, we could use the currently available military technology to surveil our southern border, to stop fentanyl from crossing our border.
		I've already led on legislation that would sanction the Mexican cartels, if you remember the path, The precursors come from China, then they are manufactured in Mexican labs, and then the Mexican cartels bring them across our border.
		By sanctioning their accounts and eliminating their cash, we starve them of what they need, number one.
		Closing our southern border makes it nearly impossible to get in.
		The military-grade technology is a backup, making sure that we not only stop 70,000 deaths In the last 12 months because of fentanyl, it also allows us to deal with the human trafficking travesty that is entering in our country in the same path.
		If we are going to deal effectively with 100,000 overdose deaths in our country and the 70,000 that is directly linked to fentanyl, we have to deal with our ports of entry and deal with our southern border.
		If we do that effectively, we have started reducing the challenge from the outside, and then we have to deal with the challenge on the inside, which seems to be connected to a mental health crisis that is spreading throughout our nation.
unidentified		Governor Christie, Senator Scott just mentioned ports of entry.
		90% of the fentanyl that is seized in the United States is seized at ports of entry.
		We don't know what's coming in across the open southern border.
		You've been a United States attorney.
		You've taken on cartels.
		Can it really be done quickly?
		What would you do as president?
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		It can be done quickly in two ways, Hugh, on fentanyl.
		The first way is exactly as you suggest, the ports of entry.
		We have to beef up what our law enforcement has in terms of technology.
		I would invest in that as president.
		We need to make sure that law enforcement has every tool at its disposal to do it.
		Secondly, on day one, I would sign an executive order that would send the National Guard to partner with Customs and Border Patrol, both at ports of entry and at the open ports of our border.
		Customs and Border Patrol agents are overwhelmed.
		There's 200,000 encounters a month.
		Over the last 11 months, we simply do not have the man and woman power at the border to be able to deal with it.
		And so, dealing with both law enforcement, and you're right, we have done this, we can do this, but we've got to give them the tools to do it, and technology is one of the biggest tools that we don't have enough of at the ports of entry.
		Now, we also need to lower demand, Hugh, in this country.
		And the way to lower demand is to start treating people again.
		You know, we started to do this before COVID, and we haven't done enough of it.
		And for every family out there tonight who has lost a loved one.
		to fentanyl or to any other type of opioid overdose, what you know is all you want is a chance for them to win their lives back.
		When I'm president of the United States, we're going to call this what it is.
		It is a disease like heart disease, diabetes, or any other disease like cancer that can be treated, should be treated.
		We not only have to stop supply, but we have to lower demand and save lives.
unidentified		Governor DeSantis, you have talked about using United States Special Forces is to attack the cartels where they manufacture the chemicals that come from China.
		How often?
		How many?
		What does that look like?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well, first I was speaking to a dad who lost a son to a fentanyl overdose.
		Son wasn't a drug addict.
		He had taken some pill that happened to be laced with fentanyl and it was a fatal overdose.
		And when he told me, obviously the pain of losing a child is as bad as it gets, but he said what was salt in the wounds Is that these elites in D.C.
		don't give a damn about what's going on in this country.
		They don't care that we have tens of thousands of opioid deaths that the fentanyl is pouring in.
		They are not taking the type of action we need to.
		We're declaring it a national emergency on day one.
		I'm sending U.S.
		military to the border.
		I'm going to stop the invasion cold.
		I am going to deport people who came illegally.
		And I'm even going to build the border wall and have Mexico pay for it like Donald Trump promised.
		How are you going to do it?
		Yeah, Mexico is not going to fork over money.
		We're going to impose fees on the remittances that foreign workers send to foreign countries.
		We'll raise billions of dollars.
		I'll build the wall.
		But we are going to designate the cartels to be foreign terrorist organizations or something similar to that.
		And we're going to authorize the use of deadly force.
		We're going to have maritime operations to interdict precursor chemicals going into Mexico.
		But I'll tell you this.
		If someone in the drug cartels is sneaking fentanyl across the border when I'm president, that's going to be the last thing they do.
		We're going to shoot them stone cold dead.
unidentified		Ambassador Haley, if the United States uses special forces in Mexico without prior notice to the Mexican allies to our South, what would your colleagues at the United Nations think about that?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		I don't care what my colleagues at the United Nations think.
		What I'll tell you is...
		First of all, you have to go to the source.
		We have lost more Americans than the Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq wars combined.
		We lost 75,000 Americans last year.
		Go to the source.
		It is the reason why we'll continue to say we will end all normal trade relations with China until they stop murdering Americans.
		You watch how quick that flow stops.
		The second thing is we'll send special operations in to take out the cartels.
		We need to go to where they're distributing it, where the supply centers are, and take them out.
		We'll put 25,000 more Border Patrol and ICE agents on the ground and let them do their job.
		We will defund sanctuary cities.
		We will go back to the remain-in-Mexico policy so that everybody stays in Mexico and they never get here in the first place.
		And instead of catch-and-deport, we'll go to catch-and-release.
		I'm sorry, instead of catch-and-release, we'll go to catch-and-deport.
		That is the way we'll deal with the border.
		Those are the things that we have to do going forward, but I do agree with Chris.
		One of the first things that we have to do is really focus on mental health and addiction centers.
		It is something that is needed in our country terribly, because we don't deal with mental health, and someone who doesn't get care for mental health falls into addiction, and we owe it to them to treat it like the cancer that it is.
unidentified		Why don't we have a society where people are mentally ill?
unidentified		Special Forces in Mexico shoot them a stone cold dead at the border?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		One thing I just want to say in how we're talking about this issue is, you know, like Ron, I've actually met many parents across this country who have lost their kids to laced pharmaceuticals that have fentanyl in them.
		The only thing I would ask, Ron, I think you'd be on the same page with me on this.
		Let's not even call that an overdose.
		That is not an overdose.
		That is poisoning.
		If you put that fentanyl in a Big Mac, we would not call that an overdose.
		You'd call it what it is.
		It's closer to bioterrorism.
		And I say that because as it uniquely relates to this crisis, that does warrant more aggressive means to deal with it.
		So there's a new presidential election in Mexico in 2024.
		People may not be aware of that.
		It's going to be someone other than Obrador, who has been a disaster in Mexico.
		I think he's even mentioned me obliquely in speeches to say that somebody who would do this shouldn't get anywhere near the White House.
		Well, AMLO, get out of the way.
		There's going to be someone else in charge.
		I hope to have built a good relationship with that next president of Mexico.
		We'll use our own military to seal our own southern border.
		What we need to do is stop using our military to protect somebody else's border halfway around the world when we're short right here at home.
		Get serious about protecting this border.
		And then the other thing that hasn't been discussed is the northern border.
		I'm the only candidate on the stage, as far as I'm aware, who has actually visited the northern border.
		There was enough fentanyl that was captured just on the northern border last year to kill 3 million Americans.
		So we gotta just skate to where the puck is going, not just where the puck is.
		Don't just build the wall, build both walls.
		Can't just complete the wall, use the military to seal the Swiss cheese for the tunnels that they're actually building underneath that wall.
unidentified		Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		We have to be practical and actually get this job done.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Kristen.
		Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy.
		Let's talk now about last night's election results.
		Abortion rights supporters saw victories in Ohio and Virginia, following earlier wins in states like Kansas and Kentucky.
		Governor DeSantis, first to you, how do you see the path forward for Republicans on this issue?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well, I stand for a culture of life, and I understand that it's important that everyone gets a shot.
		I'm reminded of a story about a young mother who was struggling in Jamaica about 40 years ago, 45 years ago.
		She was counseled to not have a baby because she was poor, baby wouldn't have opportunity, and she came close to having an abortion.
		But she decided to have the baby, born poor in Jamaica.
		And the reason I know that story is because that baby girl ended up emigrating to the state of Florida, Uh, becoming a lawyer and a judge.
		And I appointed her to the Florida Supreme Court in August of 2022.
		We're better off when everybody counts.
		Uh, we're better off when we can promote a culture of life.
		At the same time, I understand that some of these states are doing it a little bit different.
		Texas is not gonna do it the same as New Hampshire.
		Iowa's not necessarily gonna do it the same as Virginia.
		So you gotta work from the bottom up.
		Uh, you gotta do a better job on these referenda.
		I think of all the stuff that's happened to the pro-life cause, uh, they have been caught flat-footed on these referenda, and they have been losing the referenda.
		A lot of the people who are voting for the referenda are Republicans who would vote for a Republican candidate.
		So you gotta understand how to do that.
		But let's just be clear.
		The Democrats have taken a position they will not identify the point at which there should be any protection all the way up until birth.
		That is wrong, and we cannot stand for that.
unidentified		Alright, Governor DeSantis, thank you.
		Ambassador Haley, let me have you weigh in.
		Former President Trump has consistently blamed the abortion issue and how Republican candidates have talked about it for their electoral losses.
		How do you see the path forward?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		I've said it before, I think you have to be honest with the American people.
		This is a personal issue for every woman and every man.
		I am unapologetically pro-life, not because the Republican Party tells me to be, but because my husband Michael was adopted and I had trouble having both of my children, so I'm surrounded by blessings.
		Having said that, when you look post-Roe, a wrong was made right.
		They took it out of the hands of unelected justices, and they put it in the hands of the people.
		And now we're seeing states vote.
		And what I'll tell you is, as much as I'm pro-life, I don't judge anyone for being pro-choice, and I don't want them to judge me for being pro-life.
		So when we're looking at this, there are some states that are going more on the pro-life side.
		I welcome that.
		There are some states that are going more on the pro-choice side.
		I wish that wasn't the case, but the people decided.
		But when it comes to the federal law, which is what's being debated here, be honest.
		It's going to take 60 Senate votes, a majority of the House, and a president to sign it.
		So no—we haven't had 60 Senate votes in over 100 years.
		We might have 45 pro-life senators.
		So no Republican president can ban abortions any more than a Democrat president can ban these state laws.
		So let's find consensus.
		Let's agree on how we can ban late-term abortions.
		Let's make sure we encourage adoptions and good quality adoptions.
		Let's make sure we make contraception accessible.
		Let's make sure that none of these state laws put a woman in jail or give her the death penalty for getting an abortion.
		Let's focus on how to save as many babies as we can and support as many moms as we can.
		And stop the judgment.
		We don't need to divide America over this issue anymore.
unidentified		Thank you, Ambassador.
		Senator Scott.
		Senator Scott, I'd like you to weigh in.
		How do you see the path forward and what do you make of what Ambassador Haley just said?
		Do you see this as a consensus issue?
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm 100% pro-life.
		I have a 100% pro-life voting record.
		I would certainly, as President of the United States, have a 15-week national limit.
		I would not allow states like California, Illinois, or New York to have abortion up until the day of birth.
		I certainly would not allow for governors, former governor, Democratic governor of Virginia, who talked about infanticide.
		We need a 15-week federal limit.
		Three out of four Americans agree with a 15-week limit.
		47 out of 50 countries in Europe agree with a 15-week limit.
		I would challenge both Nikki and Ron to join me at a 15-week limit.
		It is in our nation's best interest, and frankly, I think it's unethical and immoral To allow for abortions up until the day of birth.
		We have an opportunity in this nation to stop that reckless behavior from states like California, New York, and Illinois.
		I'd go a step further.
		In my parents' plan, we start by talking about funding, block granting resources to crisis pregnancy centers.
		We should support adoption.
		There are a number of ways that we can say to the expectant mother, That we stand with you.
		We should not only be pro-life before the child is born, we should be pro-life after the child is born just as much.
unidentified		Senator Scott, thank you.
		Ambassador Haley, your name was invoked.
		Would you support a 15-week federal limit?
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		I would support anything that would pass because that's what would save more babies and support more moms.
		But you have to be honest with the American people, and I appreciate that Tim keeps calling me out for this, but Tim, there was a bill last year.
		Lindsey Graham sponsored it.
		You didn't even co-sponsor the bill, and then when you first were interviewed on this, when you ran, you wouldn't even say you were for 15 weeks.
		What I am saying to the American people is, let's see what we can agree on.
		Let's bring people together and decide what we can agree on.
		I will sign anything where we can get 60 Senate votes, but don't make the American people think that you're going to push something on them when we don't even have the votes in the Senate.
		It's important that we're honest about that.
unidentified		Let me go to Mr. Ramaswamy.
		Would you support a 15-week federal ban?
		And what is the path forward on this issue?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		I just want to say, I mean, I think Nikki Haley did invoke being honest.
		And I just want to give credit to Tim Scott.
		He's honest about where he stood.
		And I think you should be honest, not making a political calculus, but to say, if a bill is served up, would you sign it?
		Here's my view on this.
		Speaking as a man, they say men have trouble speaking on this issue.
		I don't think we need to be that way.
		It was my home state of Ohio.
		I'm upset about this.
		Yesterday.
		That passed a constitutional amendment that now effectively codifies a right to abortion all the way up to the time of birth without parental consent.
unidentified		Why?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		It's back to that Republican culture of losing.
		The Republicans did not have an alternative amendment or vision on the table.
		I know Ohio.
		I was born, raised, and I lived there.
		It's representative of the country.
		If in the state of Ohio we talked about access to contraception, adoption, and also here's the missing ingredient in this movement.
		Sexual responsibility for men.
		We live in an era of reliable genetic paternity tests that are 100% reliable.
		So we can say men deserve more responsibility.
		So we can tell women, we're all in this together.
		It's not men's rights versus women's rights.
		It's about human rights.
		And I've come back to that case that Clarence Thomas spoke of.
		A pregnant woman walking down the street.
		She's assaulted.
		The unborn child dies in that assault.
		You find me one person in this country who says that that criminal does not deserve liability for that death.
		You won't find one.
		That says we share the same instincts on this issue, but we require, I believe, a different generation of leadership to actually lead us forward and unite the country on this with honesty.
unidentified		Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy.
		Governor Christie, as you know, federal limits are important to a lot of Republicans.
		Where do you stand on this issue, and what is the path forward for Republicans?
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		For 50 years, conservative lawyers have been arguing that the federal government should have absolutely nothing to do with this issue constitutionally because it's nowhere in the Constitution.
		And then Dobbs comes and we finally gain that victory.
		Which was the creation of a constitutional right out of thin air that didn't exist.
		And now we have people running to say, let's short circuit the states from doing what they need to do.
		And let's go right to some type of federal ban at a certain number of weeks.
		And people on the stage have been all over the place.
		20 weeks, 15 weeks, 12, 6.
		Look, the frowns were really smart.
		And this is an issue that should be decided in each state.
		And I trust the people of this country.
		State by state to make the call for themselves.
		Now that's going to lead to a lot of divergence.
unidentified		In Oklahoma, you can't get an abortion unless the life of the mother is at risk.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		In my home state of New Jersey, it goes up to nine months that you get an abortion.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		I find that morally reprehensible.
unidentified		But that is what the people of our state have voted for.
unidentified		And we should not short-circuit that process until every state's people have the right to weigh in on it.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		But here's the bigger issue, Kirsten.
unidentified		Like Trump!
unidentified		That's what Trump does.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's why Trump's awesome.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		To be pro-life for the whole life means that the life of a 16-year-old drug addict on the floor of the county lockup is precious, and we should get treatment for her to restore her life.
		The 52-year-old who's drug addicted should make sure that any of his children who he's passed that addiction on to are treated well, too.
		Pro-life's not just in the womb, Kirsten.
		It's for the whole life.
unidentified		All right.
		Governor, thank you.
		Candidates, thank you.
		We're going to take a final break, and when we come back, we'll hear from all of you with your closing statements.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		All right, yeah, the abortion thing is like, it just doesn't interest me because they're all lying.
		You know, and I, at least Trump came out and said, oh well, like, you guys are gonna vote for me if I talk about it.
		So that's why I love, that's why I love Trump.
		Trump is like fighting the pro-lifers.
		He's like, you pussies don't win elections, I do.
		You don't win elections, shut the fuck up.
		I deliver daubs, so shut the fuck up and let me, let me, uh, not, you know, talk about it because it'll lose me the election.
		But these guys, they have to stretch out this long thing about... And basically what they're saying is, well, I'm pro-life, but if I come across as too pro-life, like, all the women will vote for the Democrats.
		I feel like you should just say that.
		Just come right out.
		It's like, we're not children.
		Everyone recognizes that that's what's happening.
		Everyone recognizes that's a political reality.
		The political reality is that women voted 60%.
		In favor of this amendment to the Ohio State Constitution last night.
		And it's that simple.
		Women will kill the GOP if it's too pro-life.
		That's just what it is.
		And so Republicans recognize that they can't push for any kind of federal ban With any teeth or even some say at all.
		That's why Nikki Haley says, well, let's just work on it when I'm president.
		That's because she doesn't want to risk alienating.
		There can't even be a whiff that she's going to ban abortion federally because she'll get murdered by women.
		So, that's why I can't stand that issue when people, when you hear about it on the debate stage, because they're all just making shit up, you know?
		And the thing is, what's funny when they say, well, think about it this way.
		When they talk about drugs and abortion and stuff, they're like, we need more treatment centers, and we need more Social Security, and we need more adoption centers, and it's like, what if we had a country where nobody wanted to abort babies so it wasn't an issue?
		What if we had a country where nobody was on drugs because they didn't want to commit suicide?
		What if we had a country where people were wealthy enough that they didn't need Social Security, they had a private retirement plan because they made money?
		And the point is, is like, we have to restructure the society.
		If you have a society where everyone's on drugs or doing abortions on a large scale, something has gone wrong.
		You know?
		And like Vivek said, it's one thing if somebody, I don't know, gets poisoned with fentanyl, but addiction is a major problem in the country.
		And addiction is a symptom of a deeper problem.
		People don't get addicted to drugs for no reason.
		People get addicted to drugs because They feel their lives aren't worth living, so they'd like to alter their state of consciousness.
		So...
		Nobody's talking about how the society has gotten to the point where everybody wants to be addicted, why there's a suicide epidemic, why there's abortion.
		Like, they're talking about access to contraceptives.
		What if we had a country where marriage was a sacred institution?
		And listen, I know it's a presidential debate, so they are talking about policies, and policies are reactive as opposed to proactive, but it would be good to have some vision From a candidate.
		Like Vivek.
		Vivek is the closest to that, but he's really just offering up these kind of like clever, interesting, novelty opinions.
		But it's not really getting at a unified vision for the country.
		So that, whenever people talk about that stuff, that's how I feel.
		It's like, we need more addiction centers.
		It's like, well we have all these addicts.
		Shouldn't we ask why everyone's addicted in the first place rather than let's have a country of people in rehab?
		Like, isn't that a problem if you have to build rehabs?
		We're gonna build more rehabs!
		It's like, uh, what?
		That's a problem.
		Like, isn't that a problem by itself?
unidentified		They've been to focus on any topic you didn't have time to address and why you and not former President Trump would be the party's best choice to tackle these important issues.
		You each have a minute.
		Senator Scott, we'll start with you.
		One minute.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		There's a crisis that is growing in our nation and that crisis is cultural and spiritual.
		We need a renewal, a great awakening.
		We should reject the less valueless, faithless, fatherless society.
		We should turn back to faith, Wow.
		patriotism and individual responsibility.
		We should stop choosing victimhood and start choosing victory.
		We should stop kneeling in protest and start kneeling in prayer.
		There are basic truths that built this country.
		If you're able-bodied in America, you work.
		If you take out a loan, you pay it back.
		If you commit a violent crime, you go to jail.
		And if God made you a man, you play sports against men.
unidentified		I do not just want to... Audience, please.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		I do not just... I do not just want to win the battle against Joe Biden.
		I want us together to win the war.
		The war for our Christian conservative values that changed my life.
unidentified		Senator Scott, thank you.
unidentified		Governor Christie, you have won.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		That's why I'm asking you for your vote.
unidentified		I'm my mama!
unidentified		My mama.
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
		Thank you for hosting tonight.
		Listen, it's a gift.
		A gift to be an American.
		And I'm running for president of the United States because I'm tired.
		I'm tired of seeing the division.
unidentified		Shut up!
chris christie ▲ ● ▼		I'm tired of seeing the anger.
		And I can see in the eyes of Americans the exhaustion.
		Their exhaustion from the petty personal politics that have taken over this country over the last number of years.
		I'm running for president to be a president of consequence.
		To do the big things.
		To make sure that America's role in the world stays number one.
		That we stand up for our friends and allies around the world.
		And we stand up for what we believe in right here at home.
		And it's not to eliminate our differences.
		Our differences has always been our strength as a country, not our weakness.
		But you can't truly say you love America unless you're ready to open up your heart to every American.
		I'm going to open up my heart to every American as president, and I will make sure that I return honesty, integrity to the Oval Office.
		We deserve and should accept nothing less.
unidentified		Governor, thank you very much.
		Let's go to Mr. Ramaswamy now.
		You have one minute.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		We've talked a lot about foreign wars tonight, but we're in the middle of a war right here at home.
		It's a war not between black and white or Democrat and Republican.
		It's between those of us who believe in our founding ideals and love this country, and a fringe minority who hates the United States of America.
		And I think it's going to take a commander-in-chief to lead us to victory in that war, who first of all knows that we're in a war.
		Second of all, can't be captured by the special interests along the way.
		But third is from the next generation, somebody with fresh legs to lead us to victory.
		I'll shut down the deep state, I'll declare economic independence from China, I'll keep us out of World War III, and then revive national pride in this country.
		I also want to close with one message to the Democrat Party.
		End this farce that Joe Biden is going to be your nominee.
		We know he's not even the President of the United States.
		He's a puppet for the managerial class.
		So have the guts to step up and be honest about who you're actually going to put up, so we can have an honest debate.
		Biden should step aside, end his candidacy now, so we can see whether it's Newsom or Michelle Obama or whoever else.
		Just tell us the truth so we can have an honest debate.
unidentified		The time is up.
unidentified		Ambassador Haley, you have one minute for your closing. - Thank you.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		The world is on fire.
		We have a war in Europe.
		We've got a war in the Middle East.
		We've got China on the march.
		It is very important that we know how to defend our freedoms and how to defeat terrorism and socialism.
		We have to know the difference between good and evil.
		We have to know the difference between right and wrong.
		We need to know that a strong America doesn't start wars.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		A strong America prevents wars.
nikki haley ▲ ● ▼		And the way we can focus on that is to make sure we go back to the soul of America and be strong and proud again.
		And we can't do that.
		We can't win the fights of the 21st century with politicians from the 20th century.
		We have to move forward.
		And we can do this.
		I know we can do this.
		So join our movement.
		Go to NikkiHaley.com.
		And we will once again show what an America that's strong and proud looks like.
		God bless.
unidentified		Ambassador, thank you.
		Governor McSendish, you're closing.
		You have one minute.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		We must reverse our country's decline, and that is going to require leadership.
		I will take the hits, I will take the arrows, I will take the barbs, because it's not about me, it's about you.
		It's not about the past, it's about your future.
		We are going to fight for you.
		I am going to win for you and your family, and I am going to lead this country's revival.
		As a veteran of the Iraq War and in the Navy, I will always put service above self as president.
		As the father of three young kids, I'm going to ensure that this country is left to the next generation in better shape than we found it.
		And as the governor of Florida, I delivered on all my promises, and you can trust me to deliver for you as the president of the United States.
		I am asking for your vote.
		I'll be a nominee that will be able to win the election.
		I will be a leader you can be proud of, and as your president, I will not let you down.
		God bless you.
unidentified		Governor DeSantis, thank you.
		There's that face.
		I thought it would be better this time, but it was worse.
		That is going to conclude our debate.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What was that face he made at the end?
		Just look at the face.
		Focus on the face.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Focus on the face.
		We will not let you down.
		God bless you.
unidentified		Governor DeSantis.
unidentified		Thank you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Alright, well that was exhausting.
		Exhausting debate.
		You know, DeSantis and Haley and everyone on that stage is a psychopath like warmonger.
		Every one of them except for Vivek.
		These neocons, man.
		Aside from that, they're just your average conservatives.
		I mean, this is what I'm talking about.
		This is the backsliding.
		Like, let's say that Vivek wasn't running.
		The stage would just be the same crap.
		And the point is, when Trump arrived in 2016, there was this idea that he would realign the Republican Party or realign American politics with a new contour and that the Republican Party would be anti-war and against free trade. there was this idea that he would realign the Republican and and against mass migration.
		And those were the issues.
		Those were the issues, and those were to be the conservative position, is that we would be in favor of protection, trade protection.
		We'd be against foreign wars, and we would be against mass migration.
		And it's seven years later.
		And it's really kind of a fluke that Vivek is running and has been successful.
		He is a political outsider.
		He's been successful, really, because of viral social media marketing.
		And so without Vivek, who is really an exception to the rule, seven years, eight years, really, because he's 24, after Trump ran, the Republican Party is just as bad as it was before.
		If you don't have Trump, and if this Vivek phenomenon isn't happening, DeSantis, Haley, Scott, Christie, they're the same as the GOP before Trump.
		And what that shows is that he didn't institutionally change the GOP.
		They're not talking about... Immigration was not discussed.
		In this debate, it was hardly discussed.
		Trade, somehow, was not discussed, other than outside the context of a war with China.
		Even the foreign wars, they're in favor of foreign wars.
		They want to double down and recommit.
		They're saying, if you touch a hair on the head of our soldiers in Iraq, we're gonna bomb you.
		So we're gonna go to war with the whole Middle East now?
		We're gonna fight Iran in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen?
		Like, what?
		So, The issues are all wrong.
		The positions are all wrong.
		If you don't have Trump and Vivek running, it's just as bad as it was 10 years ago.
		And this is what I said throughout the first term.
		I said you have to secure institutionalization and succession.
		The changes that Trump made need to be institutionalized, meaning that they're not going to die with him.
		They will live on past him.
		And you also need a successor, which means a Another guy who could be the president, another guy who could be the nominee or lead the party, who can maintain those changes, who can oversee that and make sure that MAGA and America First has staying power.
		And neither of those things have been accomplished.
		There's been no institutionalization.
		There is no clear successor.
		So, it's a big problem that the GOP is just as bad, because it means that there's effectively no opposition.
		There's a left-wing Democrat Party, and then the Republican Party is captured by foreign lobbyists.
		The Republican Party is basically just as bad.
		They're really hardly any different than the Democrats.
		Nothing that they said tonight was very radical.
		But the country needs radical change, like that Trump promised.
		So, if the Republican Party does not institutionally reflect the changes that Trump made, if there's no successor to oversee that, then we're back to where we started.
		It's like the Trump Revolution never happened.
		So, we're in real trouble politically.
		The good news is that the technology is changing the game.
		Internet, social media, and the acquisition of X by Elon Musk.
		The technology is going to exert pressure on the government in a way that is greater than politics.
		What I mean by that is, you know, just the force of the interconnectivity of mobile phones, smartphones, social media, and, you know, Elon Musk is just downstream from that.
		The acquisition of Twitter and the opening up of the conversation has shown how public opinion can change, how rapidly public opinion can change, and How power can be decentralized or at least information opinion making can be decentralized.
		And so that is going to have a huge pressure that's even greater than what's happening with political actors in the political process.
		So that's the white pill.
		The white pill is that now that more or less free speech has been secured on the internet, that's the real battle.
		We don't necessarily... it lessens the blow of sort of losing the political struggle.
		Trump is sunsetting.
		Maybe he wins, maybe he doesn't.
		If he wins, it changes things a little bit.
		But if he loses, the Trump revolution has sunsetted.
		The sun has set.
	It's over.
	Now it's going to be a knife fight between backsliding GOP types.
	So, but the blow of that is lessened by the fact that we have a freer and more open internet now.
	That's sort of my position on where we are, but, because these things go hand in hand.
	You know, the internet goes hand in hand with the Trump revolution.
	The free and open internet with smartphones and social media goes hand in hand with Gamergate, the alt-right 2016.
	So, at the same time, it also goes hand in hand with like foreign intelligence and this question over national sovereignty.
	You know, it's no coincidence that Arab Spring happens in 2011, along with the color revolutions, and they talk about the role of, like, Facebook, and then five years later you get Trump.
	And Breitbart.
	And Hillary Clinton says that Putin's the godfather of the alt-right.
	And there's these spy battles that are going on with Saudi Arabia and Israel and Russia and China.
	So, you know, these things are all mapped on top of each other, but... Anyway, so that's my take.
	I mean, Vivek did pretty good with what he has.
	I mean, the thing is, he's just corny.
	Like, he doesn't really have the look.
	He doesn't have the presence.
	I mean, he's a clever guy.
	Like, he's clearly a smart guy, but he's not... he doesn't have that, um...
	This sort of ineffable leadership quality that you need to be the president.
	He was tougher tonight.
	I think it was his best performance so far.
	And the substance was as good as it's been.
	But he just doesn't really have it.
	He's not gonna win, you know.
	But the dynamics of the race is that the race is obviously consolidating.
	Tim Scott and Chris Christie will drop out soon.
	And it's gonna narrow to a race between Vivek Trump and DeSantis and Haley.
	And it's gonna be a fight between DeSantis and Haley for that non-Trump, anti-Trump vote.
	And it's gonna narrow soon because Iowa's coming up.
	Iowa's gonna be, what, January, February?
	So... I don't know how many more of these there's gonna be, but...
	And these debates don't even matter.
	I don't think anybody's even watching them anymore, and people have decided already.
	It's just really a vehicle for, really, Haley to springboard.
	The race is Trump versus non-Trump with DeSantis leading the pack, and the debates are really a vehicle for Haley potentially to overtake DeSantis as number two, but I don't even think that's gonna happen.
	She had a very bad performance tonight.
	She got flustered.
	She got shit on.
	And DeSantis is, you know, he's consistently pretty good.
	I mean, he's very articulate.
	He clearly is a policy wonk.
	He's not charismatic, but he's well-spoken.
	There's a difference.
	He's articulate.
	He knows his stuff.
	He would have been a good vice president.
	He should have angled for that.
	He would have been a great vice president, but... I don't know why he didn't do that.
	Because he's, I mean, I think he's a shill, obviously, and he's not really a revolutionary, but he's well-spoken.
	He would have been a good number two guy.
	So, he's always decent.
	Not great, but decent.
	So that's that.
	Okay.
	Let's take a look at our Super Chats.
	Let's see what we got here, and then I'm gonna get out of here.
	But it's been a pretty great day.
	We had about 13,000 watching.
	Well, we got 13,000 watching right now.
	Pretty, and it's a pretty even split.
	I think I have 6,400 on Cozy, 6,400 on Rumble.
	That's pretty cool.
	I got 6,400 on Bold Plot.
	I grew Rumble so that I get 6,000 people watching on Cozy, which is what it's been for a couple years.
	Now I have twice that with another 6,000 on Rumble, which is pretty sweet.
	So we got about 12,000-13,000 watching tonight, which is awesome.
	Had about 7,000 watching the stream all day.
	It's already at 70,000 views.
	So I'm pretty happy.
	Pretty successful day.
	I hope you guys like all the content today.
	If you missed it, I did a 5 or 6 hour casual stream.
	So if you're watching on Cozy, check it out on Rumble.
	Follow me on Rumble.
	And if you're on Rumble now, follow me.
	If you're watching this on Rumble, follow me to get a push notification when I go live, okay?
	Follow me now.
	I need the followers.
	And check me out on Cozy.
	Okay, but I'm gonna get into the Super Chats.
	The show's not over quite yet.
	Just want to say it's been a great day.
	A lot of great content.
	I think you guys have been enjoying it.
	The viewership's been great, so I appreciate everybody watching today.
	I'm going to put something else on, and then I am going to read the Super Chats.
	Am I on the front page, by the way?
	Let's see.
	Why am I not on the front page?
	Dude!
	Whenever they do a debate, they take me off the front page.
	I think they take me off the front page during the debates because they don't want people to see me.
	When everybody's watching and it's like the RNC is partnered with Rumble, they're like, no, but get this kid out of here.
	We don't... I have 6,6500 even though I'm not even on the front page like everybody else.
	I have a thousand more than War Room, and this is split between two platforms, and I'm not on the front page.
	What the heck, man?
	That's just a load.
	And they tell me, oh, it's a glitch.
	It's a glitch.
	Really?
	Well, I'm the number three stream on your website during your biggest night.
	So maybe you gotta manually go in and fix it.
	You know what I mean?
	Whenever I complain that I'm not on the front page, they backchannel and they say, Oh, you know, we didn't take you.
	Oh, it's a glitch.
	We don't know what happened.
	It's like, I'm your third biggest stream on a pretty big night.
	You need to go in and manually put me on the front page, I think.
	Otherwise, you're lying, you know?
	Like, otherwise, that's kind of a lie.
	Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
	If that's how it is, just say it.
	But I'm so sick of every time they say, oh, no, no, it's a glitch.
	We didn't manually remove you from the front page.
	It's like, well, maybe you should manually put me on.
	It's not like I'm some jagoff with 30 views.
unidentified		Right.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This is a big night.
		This is the RNC partnered with Rumble debate.
		And I'm number three behind Steve Crowder and the Trump rally.
		You can't go in there and put me on the front page?
		It's been like that for two hours?
		Seriously?
		What a joke.
		Charlie Kirk's at 2,400.
		Nice.
		40 million a year and he's got a fraction of the viewership.
unidentified		Whatever.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's a good night, but when I see that, I'm like, seriously?
		Whatever.
		That just goes to show, I am playing on Deity mode.
		Like, my life is on Deity, like, impossible.
		I'm on Iron Man, Deity, impossible mode.
		I was just talking to Veda the other day, a friend of mine, and he's telling me, oh, you know, he's into numerology because he watches Zirka and he's like, you need a 33, you need a Spellcaster Handler because, you know, you gotta hang out with Aiden Ross.
		I'm like, bro, Aiden Ross literally got a call and they said if you keep calling Nick Fuentes, rappers won't go on your stream, you'll get cancelled.
		It's like I'm on deity level difficulty and I'm still crushing it.
		I mean, Destiny had 10k on YouTube.
		I had 7k on Rumble on a channel I started this year and that's- I don't even use this platform primarily.
		Anyway, you don't want to hear me complain.
		I'm just- I'm just saying it's a little ridiculous.
		Not- not to just, uh, bitch and moan or whatever, but it is a little bit frustrating.
		And it's going up!
		I'm going up to like 6,700 now?
		What the?
		So yeah, I'm a little frustrated at that.
		I'm not on the front page?
unidentified		Really?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they're just cucking me.
		I appreciate that they haven't banned me.
		You know, I should say that.
		I do appreciate they have a commitment to free speech.
		They haven't banned me.
		I just wish there was some transparency.
		If you can't have me on the front page during the debate, I get it.
		I'm an adult.
		Just say that.
		You know, they're partnered with the RNC, that RNC is gonna stream the debate exclusively on NBC and Rumble.
		I get that they wouldn't want me with all the heat that I come with on the front page.
		If they need to restrict it a little bit, uh, okay.
		It is what it is.
		I mean, I don't like that.
		I'm not happy about that, but whatever.
		But every time I complain, they gaslight me, and they're like, no, no, it's a glitch.
		You did something wrong.
		It's like, I did something wrong?
		I mean, I'm live on your website, and I have more views than almost everybody.
		Shouldn't that put me on the front page?
		They're like, no, but you need to do this, this, this, this, this.
		It's like, what?
		Is this a puzzle box?
		Like, I go live, I have the most viewers, shouldn't I be on the top of the leaderboard?
		Why do I have to go and do a hundred steps?
		You know, if you can't put me on the front page during the debate, just say it.
		Whatever.
		I guess I should be appreciative that they haven't banned me, but then again, it's like they promised free speech, so... Whatever.
		Anyway, I don't want to sour!
		It's a good night, we got great viewership, I love you guys, the content's been good, but it's like, bruh.
		Let me be on the front page!
unidentified		What the heck?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I could be... Dude, there's like 100,000 people on the site right now.
		There's like 200,000 people on the site right now, and if I was on the front page, like 10,000 more people would be watching me, maybe.
		Maybe.
		Whatever.
		But Ruben's on there with his poultry 3K.
		And this guy's putting phone calls out there to get people banned.
		Dave Rubin, his entire shtick is, well, I'm a liberal, but we should be able to have a conversation to disagree.
		Not only does Dave Rubin block me on Twitter and never talk to me, but he also picks up the phone and calls and tries to get people fired if they're not pro-Israel.
		Do you know this?
		I have multiple sources that have all confirmed firsthand that since the Gaza War started, Dave Rubin is calling people and saying, oh, so-and-so should be fired because they're not pro-Israel enough.
		And this guy's whole shtick is free speech, free speech.
		You should be able to have the conversation, but not when it comes to Israel.
		And that's so typical, the hypocrisy.
		And of course, he's Jewish.
		He's gay, Jewish, and a Zionist.
		And his business partner at Mines went to school in Israel.
		Like, it's just so crazy, man.
		But I get called an extremist for saying that.
		But then everybody attacks me.
		Like, the situation is so absurd.
		All you have to do is just be honest.
		Like, I'm not even loading it up with rhetoric.
		I'm saying, like, look, the guy makes his bones being free speech, then he gets people cancelled when it's an issue that he's invested in.
		And why is he invested?
		Well, you know, that much is pretty obvious.
		You can make your own inferences, I think.
		So, whatever.
		Just nuts.
		Same thing with War Room.
		Bannon tries to get me cancelled.
		Whatever.
		Okay okay okay enough enough complaining it's been a good night and hey let's be positive let's be positive good night good viewership and uh and Rumble has not banned me which is I appreciate that so kudos to them but I'd like to be on the front page next time please please and thank you okay but let's take a look at our super chats I'll put something on I'll put Fresh and Fit on and I'll read super chats
		Whoa, Fresh and Fit just blew up.
		They were at like 3k now.
		They must have just went live.
		All right, I'll put this out in the background.
		I'll pull up our Super Chats and then I'm gonna get out of here.
		It's been a long day.
		Okay, let's see.
		And probably won't be a lot of Super Chats because debate stream.
		Usually I don't do a lot of Super Chats when it's a debate.
unidentified		Okay.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Tim Scott sounds like he's trying to impersonate MLK but doesn't know what pauses are for.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was very weird.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He would just get slow in the middle of it, like he was blue screening.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		It was very weird.
		Here's a somewhat old head test.
		Nick Ponte, where do the years go?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Real.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Days are long but the years are short.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Protestant Groy percent ten dollars.
		Have you tried the new sauces of McDonald's?
		Spicy Jam was okay but the Mambo sauce might be the best sauce they have.
		Glad I got it when I did.
		Now all locations in my area are sold out.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Uh yeah, I tried the Mambo.
		I didn't try the Spicy Jam yet.
		I don't like the Mambo.
		It's weird.
		Weird flavor profile.
		I was surprised and I didn't like it.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Revanchists sent $5.
		Nikki Haley be like Israel needs America?
		America's purpose is to exist as a warm wet hole for Israel.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, gross.
		You didn't need to say it like that.
		But true.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Nordicverlin sent $10.
		Love ya, Nick.
		Keep fighting the good fight, brother.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, buddy.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Appreciate it.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Armitageclips sent $100.
		Whoa!
		Thank you for all you do.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thank you for the big super chat, Armitageclips07.
		I appreciate it.
		God bless, buddy.
		Thank you.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		No, dude.
		That's just dumb.
		That's just dumb, dude.
		- Malvivek went hard.
		With Trump taking a pro-choice, or at least moderate approach on abortion, I'm starting to seriously consider giving Vivek my vote.
		I can't vote for a pro-choice candidate.
		Won't jump the gun though. - That's just dumb.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's just dumb, dude.
		Vivek is not gonna win the nomination, so.
		Seriously, yeah, and you might as well just take your vote and rip it up and throw it in the air and say, "Well, I can't..." Donald Trump is not pro-choice.
		We have... Abortion was overturned in America because of Trump.
		Because Trump forced through three judges.
		Forced through... I mean, Gorsuch was a given.
		And, you know, Kavanaugh, similar.
		But forced through Amy Coney Barrett.
		So Trump delivered that victory, and now Trump is being pragmatic about the issue.
		And you know what?
		Look, it is a little bit complicated.
		Because of the electorate, because of the... Look, abortion is not helping the GOP right now.
		It is what it is.
		Republicans are losing elections.
		They're losing referendums.
		And so you can say, well, I'm only going to vote for someone that's as pro-life as possible.
		But you know what's going to happen?
		A Democrat's going to win.
		They're going to pass these pro-abortion laws in states or at a federal level or, you know, pack the Supreme Court.
		So that's just not pragmatic.
		It's just stupid.
		Well, I'm going to vote for Vivek.
		Well, you can take it and shove it up your asshole because Vivek is not going to win any election.
		He's not going to win the nomination.
		I don't think he'll win a single primary.
		He's not going to win if he were the nominee.
		If everyone died and Vivek was the only guy left, he wouldn't win the general.
		So... I mean, you should just vote for Tim Scott.
		He was the most pro-life guy on the stage.
		And Trump is not pro-choice.
		It's just about being pragmatic and winning the election.
		And it's a different battle now.
		It was easy when it was just about nominating Supreme Court justices.
		Now that it's about banning abortion at the federal level, it's a different story.
		And you know what?
		These states are going to vote for abortion because it's full of feminists and liberals.
		And it's what it is.
		It's a political problem.
		You know?
		No one's in favor of abortion here, but that just is what it is.
		So, you're wrong about that.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
		Sounds like broken English.
		Dude, this guy Rolo is such a clown.
		Whenever I watch Fresh and Fit and he's on there.
		She's kind of cute.
		I kind of like her look.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She's got a cute look going on.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		broken English.
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nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Dude, this guy, Rolo, is such a clown.
		Whenever I watch Fresh and Fit and he's on there, she's kind of cute.
		I kind of like her look.
		She's got a cute look going on.
		I don't like her.
		I know she's white, but she just looks like a bitch.
		She's chubby.
		The other black one's bad.
		Black one on the right.
		Go back to the other angle.
unidentified		She's busted.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Put Rolo on.
		Okay, well, I don't know.
		Maybe...
		I want to get a close-up on Rolo here Give me a close-up They're okay.
		Look at this.
		How old are you, dude?
		How old?
		In fairness, he looks good.
		His arms are pretty big.
		But how old are you?
		You're like 70 and you're wearing like a beanie and like long hair and like a t-shirt and like a necklace.
		What?
		I can't stand... And even, you know, Michael Sartain.
		I actually met him and he's a nice guy.
		Like, he was respectful and... You know what?
		I don't agree with him.
		And I don't really agree with the lifestyle either, but... Like...
		As a guy, I actually respect him.
		He seems like a nice guy.
		That being said, I really don't like the t-shirt thing.
		Can I just say that?
		I don't have the best wardrobe, I'll be honest.
		Like, I'll wear the hypebeast stuff sometimes or a suit.
		I am a younger guy.
		But I really don't like the t-shirt thing.
		I really wish these guys would bring back like a shirt and jacket.
		If you're like a rich guy and you're older and you're in good shape, I think they should be wearing a shirt and tie.
		That's all I mean by that.
		Shirt and tie.
		Doesn't mean you gotta wear a suit and a necktie and everything, but I really think the standards are declining and we're at the point now where the only way that older guys can dress cool, they wear like a leather jacket and like sneakers and jeans.
		It's like once you're past the age of like 35, 40, you gotta get rid of the jeans, man.
		Outside of a jeans specific occasion, like if you're at a, if you're at a football game or whatever, I mean even then, I feel like we gotta raise the standards.
		If you're past 40, you're wearing jeans and a t-shirt, making like a public appearance, what are we doing?
		That's just my opinion.
		And I know I don't always take my own advice, but that's just how I feel about it.
		I know that they're in Miami, it's a vibe, you know, it's a certain thing, but... In my opinion, I feel like we should be... That's just my belief, I don't really practice it, but... When I get older, when I'm like 40 and up, I feel like I... You gotta bully me into wearing slacks and like a jacket, because we just totally gotten away from any kind of...
		Standards.
		People walk around now in like slippers and flip-flops and sneakers.
		Everyone's wearing sneakers everywhere.
		Do we really need to be wearing sneakers everywhere?
		Can't anyone wear nice shoes or nice pants?
		Everyone's dressed like a cowboy, Rough Riders.
		Anyway, that's just how I feel.
		And the other thing, I mean, I don't like Rolo at all.
		The long hair and the beanie.
		It's like, dude, act your age, man.
		He's acting like he's 19 years old.
		You're 60, bro.
		Your beard's white.
		You dye your hair.
		You got liver spots, bro.
		You got grandkids.
		I'm not even saying that as a dig.
		It's just like... Act your age.
		I think it's so... Like, look at him.
		You look like a grandpa.
		You're a grandpa in like a t-shirt and a beanie and a black ponytail?
		Come on, dude.
		I don't know, that's just me.
		But I'm a jerk.
		But I'm a jerk.
		I don't want to neg Fresh and Fit.
		I, you know, I'm not trying to rain on... I love Fresh and Fit but Rolo I have a little beef with and just when I see the t-shirts I'm like, bro.
		But I love, you know I love Myron, you know I love Fresh.
	It's a great show.
	Rollo I had beef with.
	So I'm not trying to shit on them.
	I just see it out of the corner of my eye.
	I'm like, ah, the t-shirts.
	The t-shirts, the ponytail.
	Come on, man.
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		Ryan from censored.tv called you big daddy dumb this week.
		They plug you a lot.
		You should do another interview.
		Maybe without yay this time.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know what?
		They, um...
		They had been trying to hook me up with an interview and I kind of blew them off because I don't know.
		Lately I just am so bad at returning texts and phone calls.
		I don't want to seem like a dick like I'm snubbing everybody but I just I just lose track of stuff.
		I got like A million things going on.
		I'm trying to focus and people text me and I just forget and... So I was supposed to do an interview with them and I just completely slipped my mind so... I gotta hit him up.
		I love Ryan.
		Ryan's amazing.
		I love that guy.
		I've met him on a handful.
		I met him when we did Yay!
		and I met him I think in 2018.
		2018 or 2019.
		I met him on a few occasions.
		He's a great guy.
		I love Ryan.
		I love Gavin.
		They're awesome.
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		And they're a great duo.
		It's a perfect duo.
		So I think they're both great.
		And I have nothing but good things to say about both of them.
		So I definitely want to, if they want to do an interview, I'd love to do it.
		Because I know one of them was, I think, I don't want to say.
		Maybe it doesn't want people to know.
		But they were trying to get me on one of the shows on Censored.
		So maybe I'll do that.
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streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		It feels cruel that they keep letting Tim Scott on stage like this.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he sucks.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He can't help it.
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		I don't hear the Indian when Ramaswamy talks a whole lot but he says dick talk teehee dick talk that's funny John Smith sent $50.
		Good debate.
		Thanks for putting in the shift today.
		Great streams.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thank you for the super chat.
		I appreciate it.
		Glad you liked the stream.
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		Oh, now I'm on the, what?
		Chris Christie, a man and a woman.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm on the front page?
		Okay, so I'll, maybe it, honest to God, it probably was a debate.
		Or maybe they saw my stream and they're like, okay.
		Yes, dear, we'll put you on the front page.
		Okay, yeah.
		Dude.
		Crowder was at 80,000.
		RSVN was at 50,000.
		thousand rsbn was at fifty thousand there were a hundred and thirty thousand people watching and i was third now crowder went offline and rsbn has 37 000 this is a hundred and So it's 130 down to 37.
		And now they're like, oh, okay, now we'll put him on the front page.
		Bruh.
		But you know what?
		It has to be.
		The RNC probably told them.
		The RNC was like, that was probably in the contract.
		They're like, okay, we're gonna give you exclusive rights to our stream, but Nick Fuentes can't be anywhere fucking near the website when that happens.
		Okay, fair enough.
		Hey, I get it.
		It's fine.
		I'm not happy about it, but I get it.
		I'm not gonna get on your case.
		Like, I'm grateful to have the platform.
		Okay, I get it.
		Yeah, you can't open up the floodgates to the billion people watching the debate.
		Yeah, fair enough.
		Don't love it, but I understand it.
		And I respect it.
		That's fine.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		That's funny though.
		Well, I like this thumbnail.
		That's funny.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll do gay jokes with people I know, but if you're just a stranger, I don't know if you're coming on to me if you're actually gay.
		If you know your friends aren't gay, you can make gay jokes, but if you're just being gay towards me and I don't even know who you are, how do I know you're not actually gay?
		How do I know you're not actually hitting on me?
		So, yeah, I don't know you like that, bro.
		We're not there.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Mmm, I don't know about that.
		Uh, yeah, for sure.
		Tonight's Vivek would make a good vice president.
		- Hmm, I don't know about that. - Sword of the Saint sent $3, Herman Cain 2024.
		- Uh, yeah, for sure. - Joe Pino sent $10.
		Do you think we'll ever have an Italian American president? - I don't know, I think we missed our moment.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You know, Italians aren't pouring into the country anymore.
		We're losing our identity within America.
		We're too assimilated.
		So I don't know, maybe.
		We're too short!
		We're too short, too!
		Anthony Scaramucci was too short.
		We're a very small people.
		You know?
		My great-great-grandparents were like... like 4'10".
		You know?
		Thank God for my Irish...
		Ancestors.
		You know what, though?
		My great-uncle, he was like 6'1".
		He was Italian.
		Well, he was.
		He's dead, but... Yeah, so, I think we're too short to be president.
		We're too fiery, you know?
		You see the people that win the presidency, they're people that are like, well, let me be clear.
		Except for Trump.
		Trump was bombastic, but he was a little more like Jewish, Brooklyn Jewish-style situation.
		Sour Queens, I guess.
unidentified		Whatever.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So, maybe.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Hey, God bless, buddy.
		Yeah, only in Ohio, man.
		Ohio is over.
unidentified		Boo.
unidentified		No.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		and they just legalized abortion and marijuana in their constitution.
tim scott ▲ ● ▼		Trump.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Pray for the babies.
		Thanks for reading.
		God bless you in chat.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, God bless, buddy.
		Yeah, only in Ohio, man.
		Ohio is over.
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streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		V for Vivec, V for victory.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Boo, no. Trump.
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nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
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		Yeah, the mustache isn't full yet.
		So I'll keep it until it gets a little bit more full and then maybe I'll get rid of it.
		I don't know.
		But hey, glad to hear it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Very good.
		Nice.
		Yeah, the mustache isn't full yet.
		So I'll keep it until it gets a little bit more full, and then maybe I'll get rid of it.
		I don't know.
		But hey, glad to hear it.
		Very good.
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nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, true.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Um, research tips?
		It's just about sources.
		You gotta find good sources.
		on breaking down Destiny's crappy arguments.
		It's even funnier because Shapiro said Hess a good debater on the left.
		Have you got any research tips?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Research tips?
		It's just about sources.
		You gotta find good sources.
		And, you know, it's good to read wide and read deep.
		You know, you gotta read a lot of stuff and... and the things that are really gonna be critical, you gotta read very deeply into them, you know?
		So... I don't really... research to me is kind of a no-brainer, like...
		You have to ask the right questions and then find the answers.
		You need to find good sources that are credible and have the right information but you also have to consider the sources because when you do research it's like who's putting this information in front of me that you have to consider the the funding the bias the expertise so but it's kind of I mean it's not complicated like I don't think that's the hard part at all actually.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Like.1 sent $20, do you think someday young people will hear you talking about Trump and they'll feel the same way you do when you hear boomers talking about Reagan?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Uh, I don't know, because I don't have a crystal ball, so who knows.
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		The random guy at the bookstore that approached you from a month ago must have just finished reading The Globalization of Addiction, and felt the urge to strike up a conversation with a stranger.
		It was unfortunate that he had zero riz and happened to face you of all people.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It was just weird, dude.
		It was totally weird.
		You know, he just, like, arrested me, and was, like, asking me all- peppering me with these questions.
		It's like, why are you talking to me?
unidentified		Like... Who does that?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Another same-aged male?
		You gotta admit that's weird.
		That's one thing if, like, two old guys start talking, or two older women, uh, or something, but, like, when you're a young guy, You know what I mean?
		Like, when I see same-aged guys, I'm not like... I'm not like, uh, hey, what are you up to?
		You know, it just isn't done.
		When I see a same-aged male, I'm like...
		Who the fuck is this guy?
		You know what I mean?
		I'm like, who the fuck is this guy?
		You fucking jacket and shoes.
		Who do you think you are?
		Get the fuck out of my space here.
		I'm trying to look at books, faggot.
		I'm trying to look at books, pussy.
		Who is this pussy looking at books?
		This is my bookstore.
		You know, I don't know.
		And listen, I'm like a friendly guy, but subconsciously, when you see a same-aged peer, I think from like adolescence onward, you're like, I'll kill this guy.
		I'll kill you.
		I will kill you.
		You know?
		So, for someone your own age, when you're young like that, to pull up and be like, Hey, what are you reading?
		What do you do for a living?
		It's like, what are you trying to date me?
		What are you coming on to me?
		What are you hitting on me?
		What is this?
		Who are you?
		What are you, serial killer?
		You trying to sell me something?
		You, uh, proselytizing?
		What is this?
unidentified		So...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It was weird.
		It was weird.
		That whole scenario was weird.
		And, you know, I don't even know.
		What was the intro?
		He's like... He said he liked my hat.
		Okay, I could see giving a compliment.
		Even that's a little weird.
		Like, hey bro, cool hat.
		It's like, again, is this flirtation?
		He was rizzing me up.
		You know, Keith Woods taught me how to rizz up a woman.
		Like, he was walking me through the steps.
		Keith Woods, in case you don't know, he's actually also a pickup artist.
		He's a philosopher.
		He is a prolific Twitter user, podcaster.
		He's also a pickup artist.
		And this guy, he's got it down.
		He's got the tricks.
		He's got the process.
		And you know, this guy's a Chad.
		He slays puss all day.
		This guy's got a roster.
		He is killing pussy every day.
		That's another thing.
		People don't know that side of him.
		They just see, oh, he's like a, you know, genius, soft-spoken Irish guy.
		He's also killing pussy every day.
		And so when me and Keith were hanging out, he was kind of running me through the steps.
		He's like, this is how you do it and blah blah blah.
		And it hit all the ste- This nigga in the bookstore was hitting all the steps that Keith Woods, the pick-up artist school, taught me.
		So... Yeah, I don't know what- if this guy was trying to, you know, do something weird.
		Or kill me.
		Convert me to some religion Jehovah's Witness or give me to buy something give me to buy a water filter Turmeric But it was bizarre and I eat this guy was not trying to be my friend this guy was weird So yeah, I didn't like it.
		I didn't like it one bit.
		I But yeah, he kind of rizzed me a little bit.
		You know, because he was walking me through the steps, and he's like, he's like, so, first, you have to literally get in front of the woman.
		You have to literally, like, surprise her.
		And he jumped in front of me, and I was like, whoa!
		I was like, whoa!
		I was like, hey, whoa, what are you jumping in front of me for?
		And I said, that's probably why it works.
		I'm like, because you're, you're, like, you just scared me.
		Like, you just scared the shit out of me.
		You startled me.
		I said, and that's probably how it works, is you scare the woman And she is in a fight-or-flight mode, and I'm sure that gets in the middle of her process.
		So that's a pickup artist tip.
		Keith Woods taught me, I will teach you.
		The first, I'm not going to teach you the second step.
		You have to buy my program.
		The first step is you have to jump in front of the woman and physically block her path.
		You have to physically get in her in her way and stop her in her tracks and like prevent her you have to create like a funnel and prevent her from moving like in basketball you have to jump in front of her and you know but he did that and I was like whoa hey And, um, and I said that that's why it works.
		Because if you just start talking to a woman, she's gonna be like, nope.
		Unless you're a 10 out of 10, you know.
		Unless you're totally hot.
		She's gonna be like, nope.
		I have a boyfriend.
		Nope.
		Get away from me.
		But if you, like, startle her...
		She's gonna be like, I have to be nice to this guy, he might rape me.
		No, I'm kidding.
		No, I'm kidding.
		But she's gonna be like, whoa!
	It's gonna totally interrupt her, like, mental flow.
	It's gonna get in the middle of that process.
	And she'll go through several emotional states.
	Fear.
	Terror.
	Shock.
	Surprise.
	And then when you, like, reassure her, then when you're like, hey, hey, hey.
	Then she's like, oh, okay, I'm safe.
	Oh, okay, I'm good.
	And it's this rollercoaster.
	That's probably why it works.
	She's scared, and then she's immediately comforted, and she's like, I love you.
	You just saved me.
	You just tried to kill me, but you just tried to save me.
	If I resist too hard, I might get raped.
	No, kidding.
	That part's a joke.
	So I was like, hmm, that must be why it works.
	At least the initial, because he said, he said it's very important that you literally stop, like you can't, you can't, if she's walking and you start walking next to her, it doesn't work.
	You have to get in front of her.
	Okay, so but that's part of the psychology clearly is that She's she's like being confronted.
	She has to be confronted Anyway, so I'm just letting you in on a little tip I'm kidding Keith woods didn't teach me that I saw that in a video but Anyway, so what was the question so the Barnes and Noble guy This guy was trying to rizz me up.
	This guy's a serious flamer.
	And this guy was waving a pride flag.
	He had a pride flag in his pocket, I'm sure.
	And this guy was trying to do something suspect.
unidentified		So...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I should have ended him then and there.
		I should have started taking books off the shelf and hitting him.
		You know, just total improvised weapon.
		Press triangle to interact.
		Grab his head.
		You know, and take the right joystick.
		You know, I should have, like, do you remember those WWE games?
		Like, press triangle to interact with the environment.
		Put his hair in the folding chair.
		His head in the folding chair.
		Leg drop on the folding chair.
		Anyway, so this guy was really up to no good.
		And Keith Woods proved it to me.
		So anyway, uh... But that's what I was gonna do.
		I was gonna grapple him!
unidentified		I was gonna grapple him!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And then I was gonna drag him over to the bookshelf, and then I was gonna press triangle, and then initiate an interaction with the environment.
		And then with the right joystick, moving across, smash his head into the books.
		And then he'd be like, whoa, you know?
		And then I could do my finisher.
		You know, then when he was like, roggy, then I could initiate my finisher.
		What would my finisher be?
		What finisher would I have?
		What I do...
		I'm a smaller guy, so I couldn't do like a tombstone or like a powerbomb.
		It would be, like, uh... It would be something more acrobatic, like Codebreaker.
		What was the... wasn't that Chris Jericho's?
		It was, uh... I know he had Wiles of Jericho, but what was the other one?
		That was fire.
		Or, like, Randy Orton, RKO, but he's a pretty big guy.
		Who is like my size?
		Who had a finisher and it was like my size?
		I don't know.
		But I'm afraid of heights so it couldn't be anything from the from the top rope.
		It'd have to be maybe something like Twist of Fate.
		That was pretty sick.
		Love the Twist of Fate.
		Maybe some kind of like modified DDT.
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I always liked the DDT.
		I thought that was sick.
		You just fucking drop a guy's head on the... on the... on the map.
		Kill him instantly.
		Anyway, I don't know my finish.
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		God bless you, brother.
		Great stream.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, buddy.
		God bless you.
		Appreciate it.
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streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever been to Rand's Red Hots and Wheeling?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Wheeling.
		You get a hot dog in Wheeling?
		Really?
		That's not even Chicago.
		Goofus.
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		Trump 2024.
		I smelled that.
		NJF 2036.
		First-class content, as always.
		We don't deserve you, but I'm forever grateful we have you.
		X is infinitely better with Autumn Groper on it.
		You should check out his content.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe I will check that out.
		But hey, thank you for the super chat, man.
		I appreciate it.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, love you too, buddy.
		Thank you.
		Yeah, that's what I meant because you don't know me.
		So sorry for weirding you out.
unidentified		Love, love, love, love, love, love you. - Yeah, love you too, buddy.
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unidentified		Is the girl that called you ugly band from a pack? - Not only that, but like, she will be griped, dude.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She's, yeah, she's not getting into AFPAC or Fuentes Rally, anything like that.
		I need a public apology.
		I need, like, a North Korea public apology.
		Like, she's crying, reading from a piece of paper with, like, a bad webcam, and she's like, I can't believe I insulted our only hope to save America.
		I don't know what I was thinking.
		It needs to be, like, a tearful apology.
		NASF, all those components.
		Her hair needs to be disheveled like, you know, sweating, reading from a paper, shitty webcam.
		Otherwise, bro, she's gonna get griped.
		We're gonna go to her question and answer session and we are going to own her.
		Next time she does a Q&A, you better not give the microphone to her.
		To a black Somalian, because he will grope you.
		He will ask you about your comments and make you look like an idiot.
		So, uh, yeah.
		She's banned from my life, dude.
unidentified		Total ostracism.
unidentified		You're welcome.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Orthodox Zoomer sent $10.
		You bring a good perspective on the issue in the GOP.
		I thought it was too early to call it on polls, but when you consider what has actually been done versus what has been spoken, you're right about Trump.
		Thanks for being pragmatic.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad you see that you were wrong and I appreciate that you've accepted the correction.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		You did exactly my correction.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Thoughts on people who walk up to you when you have AirPods in and ask what you're listening to.
unidentified		No one does that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No one ever does that to me.
		No one ever does that to me.
		No one cares what I'm listening to.
		I saw a video like that.
		I would love for someone to ask me.
		Not really.
		If you see me in public, don't ask me.
		I would like for a cool person, I would like for a cool TikToker to ask me.
		Not, not you guys where you're like, you know, mouth breathing on me and you're like, you know, what's your favorite kind of pizza?
		I mean like, I mean like a real cool TikToker who doesn't even know who I am or anything about Israel or Palestine.
		I want a real cool Zoomer Who's younger than me, to come up with his own TikTok and be like, hey, what are you listening to?
		And I'll be like, I could just be another guy in the crowd.
		You know, I'm not the number one Holocaust denier, anti-Semite, whatever in America that everyone hates.
		I'm just some guy.
		I could just be anyone.
		I could just be some random guy with a cool music taste.
unidentified		You know, I'll be like, oh, I'm listening to, you know, whatever.
unidentified		I'm listening to Ecstasy, slow down version.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That I could just be some guy again.
		You know, I never just got to be a normal person.
		I'm like Michael Jackson going to the supermarket where no one was there.
		I never got to be a normal person my entire adult life.
		I've been the, uh, I've been the pariah.
		I've been the most, everyone hates me, everyone wants to kill me, uh, you know, everyone has to push me away because, like, the Jews will try and destroy their life if they know me.
		I wish I could just be in someone else's TikTok.
		I wish I could be an unpaid extra in someone else's TikTok.
		Just a member of society.
		Just an undifferentiated member of social life.
		Instead, I'm an alien.
		I'm a pariah.
		I'm a freak.
		I'm a weirdo.
		I'm a loner.
		What the hell am I doing here?
		I don't even belong here.
		So, you know.
		So, no.
		Not one of you people.
		Not someone who's read Culture of Critique.
		I mean, like a real normal person who doesn't know anything about the Jewish question.
		Who doesn't know anything about... You know, they don't know.
		They don't know who Ron Unz is.
		Anyway.
unidentified		So, no.
unidentified		No one's ever done that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But that's not dating advice.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		And it's not even mine, okay?
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		I'm just relaying it to you.
unidentified		- Better dating advice than any of the red pill people and ironically. - But that's not dating advice and it's not even mine, okay?
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		I'm just relaying it. - Carter Saunders sent $3.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		I believe Trump's the only savior to the Western world, but the truth is you can tell he's getting old losing the charisma as much as I love him.
unidentified		If not Trump, who do you think's got Republican side? - Well, and Trump doesn't care anymore, okay?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm gonna let you in on a dirty little secret.
		Over the next year, we are actually going to have to kind of pressure Trump to do the right thing on stuff, just like we did in the first term, because Trump is setting us up for a lot of issues, just like the first time around.
		So, it's going to be all hands on deck.
		It's not just about getting Trump elected.
		There's sort of a shadow war going on that I'm going to clue you into more and more, and we're going to play a big part in it, okay?
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Crusade sent $3.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		What should Vivek fix?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He's the wrong guy.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Anthony Joel sent $10.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Being strapped into the Clockwork Orange chair which is worse?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Can't fix that.
unidentified		No one can.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Being forced to watch John Doyle videos or Nikki Haley Israel speeches?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Definitely John Doyle speeches.
		At least Nikki Haley's hot.
		Okay.
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unidentified		Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!
		It's going to be only America first.
		America first.
		The American people will come first once again.

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