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This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination episode 1822.
This is no agenda.
Placing Crazy Batstand, broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Man from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're celebrating the fact that they caught the bat mad bomber.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Laudenbuzzkill in the morning.
Well, here's what caught my eye as the quad screen lit up with we've got the bomber.
We were told by Glenn Beck's forensic analyst that it was a woman.
And they were 99% sure.
Well, I guess somebody was wrong.
Yeah.
How about that?
Who is this guy?
Some guy lives in a really fancy house.
Really?
Yeah, the house is dynamite.
Oh, well, it'll be up for sale soon.
Cheap.
Well, I mean, he might be bored or he might be, who knows?
They haven't explained it.
Yeah.
So weird.
I mean, I think.
Oh, they're all patented.
They had this huge press conference.
They're all patting each other on the back and then condemning the old Biden administration.
Oh, yeah.
They knew.
They knew.
They didn't do anything.
They sat on this coach.
They didn't do anything.
They sat on it.
I love seeing Judge Janine speak in that official role is just wrong.
There's something wrong about it.
You know, the worlds of show business and politics, when they collide like that, it's odd.
Level Bongino is up there too, yakking away.
Oh, he got cut off.
Oh, by whom?
No, it just went screen went blank at a glitch.
Oh, what was he saying?
Code Bongino?
I don't know what.
No, he was doing the same thing as Patel.
Everybody else.
Yeah, you know, we're great.
It took forever.
And we had a big team and we worked 24-7.
Yeah, 33 hours non-stop.
We had millions and millions of detailed pieces of evidence that we had to go through and analyze.
The other guys are too lazy to do it.
Yeah, those guys.
Fresh eyes.
They'll be every cliche from every movie you've ever seen.
Fresh eyes.
I like that.
Fresh eyes.
Fresh eyes is fantastic.
Well, that, of course, is not the.
I mean, they're real busy, obviously, because now that we've uncovered this, who knows what will happen with the Epstein files?
We're all waiting with bated breath.
But wait, we have new pictures.
House Democrats released more than 150 still images and more than a dozen short videos of the Caribbean estate of late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
The images do not show any people at the lavish home on a private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands.
They do show the compound's pool area, several bedrooms and bathrooms, and a room that mysteriously contains a dental chair.
And you saw the walls are adorned with masks of men's faces.
Congress is waiting for the Justice Department to release the so-called Epstein files, all of them.
Justice must do so within 30 days of President Trump signing the Epstein Files Transparency Act on November 19th.
This was great.
This picture of the dentist chair with these protruding masks on the wall is just, what is, what in the world is that?
What is going on there?
And how come we know of any pictures of Zorro Ranch?
That's the place where I was probably more interested.
That's a question.
One of the unanswered questions.
The other one to me is, hey, they had a room is full of videotapes.
Nobody wants to talk about that.
Well, hold on a second because Ro Khana, Ro Kahana, was on with the poopmeister, Anderson Pooper, and he has some stuff to say about it.
Tonight we're getting an inside look at some of the rooms in Jeffrey Epstein's notorious home on a private Caribbean island where underage girls and young women were trafficked and sexually abused.
Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released these photos as well as videos they say have not been made public before.
One of the images shows what appears to be a dentist chair in one room with masks on a wall.
Another shows a blackboard with some words scribbled on it.
Power, deception, plus political power, deception, words.
There's also this video showing the manicured grounds of the estate with pantries and winding paths and a large pool.
Oh, no.
The Department of Justice has 16 days before they have to release documents related to its investigation.
I wonder, is the Democrat the listing agent for this island or something?
Because it really is like a sales video.
Like, oh, that kitchen looks nice.
Yeah, I can do without the crazy dentist chair, but everything else is pretty cool.
Epstein is required by the bill that Congress passed and President Trump recently signed into law.
Now, we learned today that Epstein's accomplice, Gillene Maxwell, is planning to file a petition asking a judge to release her from prison.
She's serving a 20-year sentence for her sex trafficking conviction.
Joining us tonight, California Congressman Roe Conna, a member of the Oversight Committee, who, along with Republican Congressman Thomas Massey, led the fight to pass that bill forcing the release of the Epstein files.
So, Congressman, I mean, do these video images fill in any blanks for you, raise any new questions?
I'm wondering if what stands out to you.
What stands out is the dentist chair.
Well, the dentist chair was concerning to me.
Obviously, we need to know the facts, but what we need to know is: were underage girls abused on that chair?
What happened there?
What we do know from the survivors is their billings.
I mean, maybe they had a dentist on board, Daniel.
This is a part of the deal.
You get free free cleaning.
Hey, come to the island.
We got a dentist on staff.
Free cleaning.
Free cleaning.
We can do it.
We can bleach the teeth a little bit.
You look a little better.
I can change your jaw.
What we need to know is: were underage girls abused on that chair?
What happened there?
What we do know from the survivors is there are many such photos in the Epstein files.
We know that from the survivors and their lawyers, all of those need to be released.
Every file, every photo, every interview memorandum while protecting victims need to be released by federal law in the next 16 days.
Hey, wait, wait.
Why didn't he mention the videotapes?
No, no, no, no.
Actually, this interview goes in an unexpected direction.
I got two more clips here.
Do you expect, I mean, do you know what to expect in 16 days in terms of what level of redaction there's going to be?
Have you gotten any word from the Department of Justice how they are handling this?
Congressman Massey and I have requested to meet with Attorney General Pambondi or someone on her team handling the investigation.
So far, we have not heard back.
We're going to continue to pursue it.
Of course, Congressman Massey is on the Judiciary Committee, so Pam Bondi will be coming before that committee.
But now, every person at the Justice Department who does not cooperate in releasing these files would be violating federal law.
That they would be subject to federal penalties.
So we expect that there will be a release, and we're going to continue to fight to make sure that it is transparent and complete.
Your committee says it's also received about 5,000 documents in response to subpoenas to J.P. Morgan, Deutsche Bank, for Epstein's financial records.
I don't know how much of those the committee has been able to review, but do they, I mean, what do you hope to find in those documents?
Does anything connect any dots for you?
Well, the committee is going through that.
There are a lot of documents, but the big question is: how is Jeffrey Epstein, a former school teacher, worth a half a billion dollars?
Who is funding him?
Why are people giving him this money?
And what was he doing for this money?
Those are things that we're going to get from these documents.
As you know, Senator Wyden has been investigating this in the Senate for over a year.
That is going to be critical to understanding who all was involved.
That took a sudden change turn all of a sudden.
We went from victims to who was funding him, what's the money flows.
We're looking into that.
That should get some people rather worried, particularly in the banking sector.
How about Chase?
Jamie Dimon.
Jamie Dimon, Chase.
By the way, thank you, trolls.
Jeffrey Epstein's last known girlfriend, Karina Shuliak, was a dentist from Belarus whom he reportedly paid to put through dental school.
She's listed as a dentistry practitioner in St. Thomas with over five years of experience in the field.
Shuliak was dating Epstein at the time of his arrest and death in 2019.
He made his final phone call to her from jail.
Oh, no.
They had a dentist chair there because his girlfriend was a dentist.
Oh, no.
Can nobody do Google searches anymore?
That's funny.
That seems like an obvious thing.
Somebody in the chat room or the troll room could do them.
Yeah.
Well, that's why we're the best podcast in the universe.
Yeah, it's instant.
Honestly, I didn't even think to look of it myself, but all right.
Well, that's not, whoa, was anyone abused?
Well, I don't know.
It was a bad root canal.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Kohana goes on here.
We've talked about Ghelane Maxwell planning to ask the judge for Koenis' new name.
Yeah, Kohana.
Kohana.
Thank you for catching that.
Kohana, yes.
Her from prison according to a new court filing.
What do you think the chances of that actually are given the unknowns of the interview she had with President Trump's former personal attorney who's now high-level the Department of Justice?
What do you think is going to happen there?
It would be a slap in the face of the survivors, Anderson.
As you imagine, I've gotten to know some of these survivors.
I've spent time with them.
When you mention Ghelaine Maxwell's name, they have a trauma and an anger.
This is someone who abused them.
This is someone who facilitated their abuse.
The fact that we're even discussing any leniency for her or letting her out of jail is frankly disgusting.
And the survivors themselves get so emotional when people bring up Maxwell.
A House Oversight Committee spokesperson today earlier today criticized Democrats on the committee, your committee, for releasing these videos and photos saying, quote, it is odd that Democrats are once again releasing selective information as they have done before.
I'm wondering what your response to that is.
Let's release it all.
That's what Massey and my bill does.
If you don't think there's anything there, get the files out.
If you think it's selective, get the files out.
Let's finally get the information out there, most importantly, because of the thousand survivors, and that's what they want.
And so we end this kind of blame game and name calling.
Let's just get it all out there in the next 16 days.
Blame game, name-calling, get it.
Just name-calling.
I don't know.
It wouldn't surprise me.
What's he talking about?
Kohana's off his rocker.
It wouldn't surprise me if in the emails and the documents, we literally find an email that says, hey, when you're down here, you know, my girlfriend can clean your teeth.
It wouldn't surprise me.
You make a joke about it, but I mean, really rich people have weird things in their homes.
It's true.
You know what I mean?
It's like, yeah.
I used to go one time.
I was in Bill Ziff's office Upstairs in some of the famous Ziff Davis publishing empire.
Yes, and he had an office in a penthouse someplace.
This is not the office at the magazine.
It was his house office.
This sounds like another story I have never heard before.
Well, it's not much to it, but all I remember is that we're having this conversation, and all of a sudden, this haircutter comes in.
Yeah.
And I'm just chatting with him.
And next thing you know, he's got a barber's thing around his neck, and the guy's trimming his hair in front of me.
I remember once being at this really well, this was when I was very young doing the pirate radio stuff.
And I had to go to one of our big sponsors.
And this was clearly some kind of drug gangster, some narco-gangster.
He had this huge house in Amsterdam.
It consisted of half of a canal block.
And, you know, and I think I had to pick up some videotapes.
I don't remember exactly what it was.
He had Western House and Western House.
I forget the other name.
He had like stores, boutique stores, probably all money laundering.
And all of a sudden, I see a member of parliament on a 10-speed bike just driving through the house.
You know, it's like that kind of stuff is normal for these Jamoks.
So, you know, in Spandex.
Was he wearing clothes?
Yeah, he had one of those Spandex riding outfits on.
Like, what are you doing?
Yeah, just riding around.
Okay.
Anyway, we have to with this dental chair.
This is it, people.
I also would have wished that Virginia was alive today.
I would have asked her all about that dentist chair and what that meant and what that was.
Because to me, there's something sadistic about it.
I mean, it's bizarre to have a dentist chair and somebody's probably going to be able to do it.
No one wants to go to the dentist.
I mean, seriously, this is one of the easiest things to look up.
That's nuts.
The dentist, there's something dark about it.
The masks.
Wait, hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
I have to stick up for my dental professionals here.
Hold on a second.
Bizarre to have a dentist chair in somebody's private house.
Also, just no one wants to go to the dentist.
There's something dark about it.
No, I love going to the dentist.
That's, you know, I just want to say something for our dental professionals.
You guys really get the short end of the stick.
I love getting my teeth cleaned.
I love hanging out there.
I love the dentist.
I love hanging out.
I hang out at the dentist.
Hey, what are you doing this afternoon?
I'm going to go over to the dental office and hang out because it's so much fun.
I'm serious, though.
I was like, what are you doing?
What's that instrument for?
How does that thing work?
You know, once you, once you should have become a dentist, there, I think this is what we're doing.
You're trying to, you're trying.
This is a cry for help.
It is.
Tell me to become a dentist.
Just by late age, can I make the switch?
Can I still do it?
Podcast to dentist.
Oh, there's a leeriness to it all.
There's it, there's, it's almost like you're walking through a crime scene.
I mean, you what kind of word is leeriness?
Leariness.
There's a leeriness to it.
That's an interesting question.
What do you think?
It's not a word.
There's not a word leeriness.
Well, should we ask the robot to make sure?
Yeah, that's the robot.
Hey, robot.
What tell me about the word leeriness?
Is that a real word?
Leariness is a real word.
It means a wariness, caution, or a state of being leery.
Like if you're suspicious about something and not quite trusting.
All right.
Well, it fits in then.
I was wrong.
Yeah.
Well, of course we have to trust AI.
I mean, our overlord is.
AI is never wrong.
Never.
The masks on the wall.
There's a leeriness to it all.
It's almost like you're walking through a crime scene.
I mean, you are walking through a crime scene.
Oh, I saw the pictures.
I saw the pictures.
It does not look like a crime scene.
It looks like a real estate portfolio.
What it looks like.
Okay.
And dressing it up a bit here.
A crime scene.
I mean, you are walking through a crime scene.
When I see the rooms, they're kind of hotel-type rooms.
Could be for anybody.
Scary.
It has to be.
Yeah, I mean, there's kind of no personality other than sort of creepiness to these things.
Otherwise, there is this sort of...
I'd love to see Vanderbilt's home.
Anonymity to sort of anonymous hotel rooms somewhere in the Caribbean.
Exactly.
And that's interesting.
You could even see from the picture of the cameras.
I mean, there are cameras everywhere.
They're being recorded, you could say, for security, but also where's the tape?
Where's the tape?
They believe that they were always being recorded there.
Even the statues are weird, like the one by the pool.
And I think it's important for us to have this documentary evidence, especially when you have the president who has a lot of people.
This is going nowhere.
It's nine more seconds.
They're yak, yak, yak, yakking about nothing.
Folks, seeing is believing.
See the place where he lived.
Seeing is believing wealth porn.
This is wealth porn.
Jerry Kern dropped clichés on us.
I'm dumping this.
A picture's worth a thousand words.
That's right.
Seeing is believing.
That's right.
Oh, man.
That's good.
It gives everybody something to talk about.
That's always fun.
I mean, what is the point of the Democrats releasing these photos?
What is the actual point?
Is it to draw everyone's attention back?
I mean, it doesn't make a lot of sense midterm-wise, which everything should be about.
Everything.
You know?
Yeah, I think you're right.
Everything should be about the midterms.
And they somehow think they're going to, I don't know what they're thinking, but they seem to think there's a benefit to this.
They're really a lost cause, these guys.
It's a miracle.
I think they will take the midterms, but it's kind of baffling that they can even get anybody to vote for them.
Well, I mean, everything, although this double-tap war crime, this is my favorite.
This is the best story ever.
The American military has done atrocious things for our freedom, for their democracy, all over the world.
But now we're blowing up some drug boats and everyone loses their ever-loving mind.
And I think that Matt Taibbi and Walter Walter Kern are correct that there's probably money on those boats too.
Although we don't see it like, you know, like fluttering dollars.
That would be kind of cool if you saw that.
But this thing seems like a lot of people are very, very, I don't believe that.
I disagree.
Why would there be money on the boats?
You exchange the drugs for the money.
You don't carry the money on the boat with the drugs.
And then you put the money straight into the bank in the Caribbean.
Yeah.
And, you know, we discussed when the 2008 crisis, what was it, what do they call it?
The Great Recession, the Great Recession.
If we didn't have drug money flowing, the whole world would have crumbled.
The drug money flow is so important.
In fact, we have a, this is how far I'll go with this.
We have, I think they're talking about a liquidity crisis on Wall Street.
I think that means there's not enough money.
And there's all kinds of reasons for it.
We had a government shutdown.
But could it also be that all this money is, all the value is being blown up in the ocean?
And that, oh, man, we don't have any money coming in.
Do you think that's possible that it's that much?
Because I do.
Well, I don't know about that because it's coming in from every which way and all over the place.
It's only accounting for some of it, maybe 10% at the most.
And I don't even think it's a good question.
Oh, no.
Trump says it's 90% of the time.
Huh, let me write this one down.
Let's listen.
You released video of that first boat strike on September 2nd, but not the second video.
Will you release video of that strike so that the American people can see for themselves what?
I don't know what they have, but whatever they have, we certainly release.
No problem.
We need to start saying that.
We want to know about the dentist's chair because the American people have a right to know about the dentist's chair.
The American people who pay their taxes have an absolute right.
I am a journalist.
You know, we stopped.
Every boat we knock out, we saved 25,000 American lives.
I think we've now saved or created 300 million people with the amount of boats we've blown out of the water.
What, 20 boats now or more?
So that's fine.
20 times 25,000.
So it's half a million.
Am I saying that right?
Yeah.
Half a million lives have been saved or created, Mr. President.
Good work.
And if you look at our numbers, the drugs coming in through the sea are down 91%.
I'm surprised it was 9%.
I don't know who's doing the 9%, but it's down 91.
And we're going to start very soon on land.
And I'm sure you're thrilled to hear that.
If it is found that survivors were actually killed while clinging on to that boat, should Secretary Hebseth, Admiral Bradley, or others be punished?
I think you're going to find that this is war, that these people were killing our people by the millions, actually.
If you look over a few years, I think last year we lost close to 300,000 people were killed.
That's not mentioning all the families.
Have you seen what happens with the families of not only the people killed, but people that are trying to get their son or their daughter off of this poison that they've been fed?
I think you're going to find that there's a very receptive ear to doing exactly what they're doing, taking out those boats.
And very soon we're going to start doing it on land too, because we know every route, we know every house, we know where they manufacture this crap, we know where they put it all together.
And I think you're going to see it very soon on land also.
So to be clear.
Ah, now I see.
How about he's going to take out these drug manufacturing operations with airstrikes?
Not boots on the ground, but airstrikes.
Yeah.
That's what it sounds like to me.
That's going to happen.
Yeah.
And by the way, according to Zero Hedge, and they would know, cocaine inflation erupts in Europe after U.S. strikes with Caribbean drugs.
Just backing the two of us up.
Yep.
30 to 45% per kilo more expensive.
By the way, so I knew a couple of drug dealers in Amsterdam, marijuana drug dealers.
I don't think they did cocaine.
They might have done pills as well, ecstasy, but nice people.
You know, they would smuggle the stuff into the country in flight cases for musical gear, speaker cases, all kinds of stuff.
And they had, and everyone was paid off.
I don't know that for sure, but obviously.
And those people alone were multi-millionaires.
They had millions of dollars.
They had houses all over the world, and they were one step above retail.
So just think about what's going back to the cartels and the manufacturers.
It's got to be a multiple of that.
It's got to be hundreds of billions, hundreds of billions.
So I think it does make a difference.
By the way, you've got a boots on the ground from the Netherlands.
And He's a documentary filmmaker, and he was part of making a series about the Dutch Navy and Coast Guard in the Caribbean for National Geographic.
So this is older.
It was about protecting the waters around the Dutch Antilles.
Different subjects in an episode, of course, but also a lot of drug traffic operations.
From the footage provided to us by the Coast Guard in the interviews we made, I can tell you that the Dutch working with the U.S. have had operations in this region for probably a decade or longer, decades, sometimes with extreme measures like taking out drug boats with force.
Unfortunately, we weren't allowed to show the blowing up or machine gunning of drug boats in the series due to the sensitive nature of the subject in the Netherlands.
Yeah, no kidding.
It's our dough.
What we did show is that the boats get chased down by fast boats or choppers.
They get at least four warnings over the portophone.
Most give up and get boarded and arrested.
If they don't stop to get boarded, they get their engine shot by marksmen from the chopper.
If this doesn't work or they fight back, they get machine gunned or blown up.
He says this has been going on forever.
But now all of a sudden, this is a huge issue.
Yeah.
Midterms.
We have the best producers in the universe.
The best, hands down.
Well, that's what happened.
You accumulate.
Yes.
So, let me see.
We have.
That's a good story.
What's interesting about this is this little diddy, which got some play.
The 57-year-old former president of Honduras was found guilty in a U.S. federal court of working with drug cartels, conspiring to distribute more than 400 tons of cocaine toward the United States.
He was found to have taken millions of dollars in bribes, and prosecutors said he bragged about all of it.
Hernandez declared that he wanted, and I quote, to stuff the drugs right up the noses of the gringos.
Witnesses at trial said Juan Orlando Hernandez used Honduran military units to escort drug shipments.
A federal jury in New York took only about nine hours to deliberate and convict him on importation and weapons charges.
He was sentenced to 45 years in federal prison.
But all of that changed this week when he was pardoned by President Trump.
I feel very good about it.
If you have some drug dealers in your country and you're the president, you don't necessarily put the president in jail for 45 years.
President Trump called Hernandez's trial last year a witch hunt by the Biden administration, although there were no allegations of prosecutorial misconduct.
There was a case that the Justice Department had built over a number of years against Juan Orlando that dated back to the trial of his brother Tony.
Hernandez's brother Tony was tried and convicted for charges related to drug trafficking by the first Trump administration in 2019.
Democrats and some Republicans in Congress are slamming the pardon.
Republican Senator Rand Paul said it flies in the face of the Trump administration's escalating campaign against drug cartels in the region.
So if you look up the history of this, and of course everyone's flummicks, how can he be blowing up drug boats but letting this guy go free?
First of all, his brother Tony, he was the drug dealer.
And it seems to me, just before you continue, based on just what that was in that report, that Tony was the bad guy.
This guy was an innocent, basically, you know, a brother, but he's an innocent bystander for all practical purposes.
And the Trump administration must have known that back in the first administration.
And then the guy got caught up and thrown in the slammer.
But the Trump people already knew that he was not a guilty guy.
Yes.
And eight years ago.
Five years ago.
But he was thrown in the slammer in 2024.
So his brother went to jail in 19 during Trump administration.
In fact, as president, Hernandez positioned himself as a key U.S. ally in the war on drugs, which of course is a joke, but he oversaw the extradition of over two dozen high-profile drug traffickers to the United States, including figures linked to major cartels.
This included cooperation with U.S. agencies like DEA, which would have given him access to intelligence on cartel structures, routes, and the leaders in Honduras, a critical transit, Honduras, a critical transit hub for cocaine from South America to the U.S. I'm thinking this guy has some valuable information, and this will make a lot of financial people very nervous.
If he actually knows not just how the drugs flow, but he knows how the money flows, this could be a very interesting guy to talk to.
And all he really got convicted of was supposedly $1 million campaign or bribe, they call it, but campaign contribution, but was categorized as a bribe from El Chapo.
And the rest was just witnesses who just said, no, no, no, no, that guy's guilty.
He's no good.
Yeah, this is another thing.
I don't want to go off track because I have this three by three to do, but I want to play this.
Trump's been pardoning, doing weird pardons.
And he does it in kind of a linear fashion.
He doesn't wait till the end of his administration and then pardon a million people.
And he pardoned this Kwayar guy who was the Democrat from Texas, Democrat from Texas.
Yeah.
Who was it?
Can't you stop you for a second?
Do I have all your clips?
I don't have a 3x3.
Do I have all your clips?
You better.
No, I mean, I got your clips this morning, but I don't see that in there.
Queyar guy?
Let me check.
Let me double check, man.
This is no.
Maybe I should go resend the clips.
I will.
It's possible.
No, I don't.
I mean, I have only 20 clips.
I got more than none on here.
Yeah.
Well, that was not in your email.
This is we have a production issue.
Yes.
Do you want to send me those real quick?
We're going to have to stop tape.
Okay, tape has been restarted.
We're back.
And I'm glad people have to understand that in preparation for this show, there is no collusion at all.
Any collusion?
There's no conversations.
We don't talk about anything.
I show up, you show up, you send me clips.
I don't look at the clips.
I don't listen to the clips because I want to be just as surprised and delighted as everybody else.
So what were you looking for?
Oh, Queyar.
Quear, yes.
Oh, the pardon.
The pardon.
Yeah.
Okay, Queyar.
And how do you spell Queyar?
C-U-E.
Oh, like cellular.
I got it.
President Trump pardoning Texas Representative Henry Queyar and his wife Imelda.
Queer was indicted last year on more than a dozen federal charges.
And the president declaring a historic reset of fuel economy standards.
We now go live to our Washington correspondent, Mario Tsu, at the North Lawn of the White House.
Mari, good evening.
Tiff, good evening.
Yes, Texas Democratic Representative Henry Queyar was an outspoken critic of former President Joe Biden's border policies.
And back in May 2024, he and his wife Imelda were indicted for allegedly accepting nearly $600,000 in bribes in exchange for influencing U.S. foreign policy in favor of Azerbaijan and a Mexican bank.
Quear and his wife have denied all of these charges.
And President Trump today is announcing his, quote, full and unconditional pardon of both of the Quears on Truth Social, saying, quote, for years, the Biden administration has weaponized the justice system against their political opponents and anyone who disagreed with them.
He also adds that one of the clearest examples of this was when Biden used both the FBI and the DOJ to quote take out a member of his own party, referring to Quayar, as bravely speaking out against open borders and what President Trump calls the Biden border catastrophe.
Take a look.
He's a respected person.
He was treated very badly because he said that people should not be allowed to pour into our country.
And he was right.
He didn't like open borders.
He represents the people on the border and he saw what was happening.
And as soon as he made that statement, I then said, I'll bet he gets indicted.
And that's what happened.
He got indicted for speaking the truth.
And his wife got indicted, Imilda.
And that's sort of a first.
Usually they leave the wives alone.
Now he had a little comment at the end that usually they, like the mob.
Oh, good, good catch.
Leave the wives alone.
Well, what I caught in there is some Mexican bank.
When I hear that, I'm like, uh-huh.
Yeah.
What about the Mexican bank?
Did he know something about some cash going into the Mexican bank?
I have no idea what the deal is with the Mexican bank, but I heard that too, the Mexican bank and then Azure Baijan.
I mean, he took a big bribe for them.
What?
What is that?
What?
Yeah.
So they got the COP30 or something.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
All of this feels so North Sea Nexus to me.
It just feels like it.
Yeah, especially with Hernandez.
Yeah, maybe getting some interesting information.
Well, back to the drug boats.
Let's play the 3x3 because it concerns Hegseth.
All right.
Now we're seeing that.
And the bullcrap about surrounding his military.
But JCD.
We're singing here, comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and MBC.
The never-ending tree birthday.
That's right.
We have a 3x3 from the big three, ABC, CBS, NBC, and it's about the bullcrap.
And where do you want to start?
We might as well start with ABC.
Here we go.
Tonight, under mounting pressure, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth insisting the decision to launch a second strike against a suspected drug boat in September was not his call, but that of the mission's commander, Admiral Mitch Bradley.
Sunk the boat and eliminated the threat.
And he was the right call.
We have his back.
The day after the attack, Hegseth said he had watched in real time.
I watched it live.
We knew exactly who was in that boat.
We knew exactly what they were doing.
But today, Hegseth said he left before the second strike.
I watched that first strike live.
As you can imagine, at the Department of War, we got a lot of things to do.
So I didn't stick around for the hour and two hours, whatever, where all the sensitive site exploitation digitally occurs.
So I moved on to my next meeting.
Hegseth was asked if he saw survivors.
I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because the thing was on fire.
It was exploded in fire or smoke.
You can't see anything.
You got digital.
This is called the fog of war.
The secretary claims he didn't hear about the second strike until an hour or so later, over the weekend.
President Trump said he hadn't known about the second strike and wouldn't have wanted it.
We'll look into it, but no, I wouldn't have wanted that.
Not a second strike.
The first strike was very lethal.
It was fine if there were two people around.
But Pete said that didn't happen.
And today, sitting next to his secretary, the president said he was still somewhat in the dark.
I still haven't gotten a lot of information because I rely on Pete.
But to me, it was an attack.
It wasn't one strike, two strikes, three strikes.
Somebody asked me a question about the second strike.
I didn't know about the second strike.
I didn't know anything about people I wasn't involved in.
I knew they took out a boat.
You know, this is all this noise is made by the appropriations.
What's the war committee?
The war committee?
Yeah, who are the people who have oversight over the military?
Armed Forces Committee?
No, I don't think it's called that.
I still think this is somehow related to fraud that's going to be uncovered in Ukraine.
I'm sorry, what?
Fraud that will be uncovered in Ukraine.
Going to be.
They had a huge case.
He's lost a bunch of people.
Well, no, but I think we may see some of this tie back to kickbacks.
This was a lot of money.
Remember, all of them were saying, hey, man, it's okay because this money comes back to America, comes back to our military companies.
Yeah?
Well, a lot of it gets stolen.
Well, or kickbacks.
Yeah, it's corrupt.
Ukraine.
Hello.
No, but our own- It's always considered the most corrupt, but I don't- But they have to do with this.
Okay.
They do not like alphabetical order CBS.
They don't like Hegseth that's sitting there.
That's for sure.
No, they don't like Hegseth, that's for sure.
One day after the White House confirmed there was a second strike on a suspected Venezuelan drug boat, President Trump today said he did not know about it.
Oh, no!
A lot of information because I rely on Pete, but to me, it was an attack.
The legality of the September 2nd attack is in question after the Washington Post reported Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth allegedly issued an order to kill everybody and that Navy Admiral Mitch Bradley apparently ordered the second strike to take out two survivors, fulfilling Hegseth's directive, which many legal experts describe as a war crime.
Hegseth said he only saw the first strike.
A couple of hours later, I learned that that commander had made the, which he had the complete authority to do.
And by the way, Admiral Bradley made the correct decision to ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat.
Trump also pointed to Admiral Bradley.
I hear the gentleman that was in charge of that is extraordinary.
He's an extraordinary person.
But the DOD's law of war manual states that shipwrecked combatants are in a helpless state, and it would be dishonorable and inhumane to make them the object of an attack.
I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because the thing was on fire and it was exploded in fire or smoke.
You can't see the digital.
This is called the fog of war.
At the cabinet meeting, the president also talked about his new efforts to pause migration and singled out Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, who came to the U.S. as a Somali refugee.
And Omar is garbage.
She's garbage.
Her friends are garbage.
These aren't people that work.
They complain and do nothing but bitch.
We don't want them in our country.
Why did they even throw that into the report?
I'm not sure.
I do have some stuff on that later.
I just wanted to point out one thing that on December 2nd, just because Hegseth, you know, he set up new procurement rules.
They were going to be looking at different ways of qualifying contractors.
And the Missile Defense Agency announced on the 2nd the 1014 qualifying offers for, here it comes, the Scatable Homeland Innovation Enterprise Layered Defense Program, which is an acronym for SHIELD.
It's for the Iron Dough, for the Golden Dome.
Golden Dome.
That is worth up to $151 billion.
And it went to many small companies.
So if there's a reason for the system to hate Hegseth, this is a good way to put the spotlight on him and try and get him out.
Especially when he says dumb stuff like, it was the fog of war, man.
Yeah, that's dumb.
That's dumb.
That's dumb.
But he's not, you know, he's, he's a, he's not well liked by some people.
Oh.
He's slightly arrogant.
He's a guy that kind of arrogance I could see would drive some people nuts.
He's a pretty guy, this admiral who's in charge of this operation, they keep saying Hegset threw him under the bus.
Hegseth did no such thing.
No.
He says the guy's great.
He did what he's supposed to do.
We know we need some PBS clips because they're always sponsored by Northrop Grumman.
So we need to hear what they're saying about him.
I don't have to have PBS.
We'll have to go.
This is Steve's project.
I know Steve is good about that.
Steve needs to add the PBS clips.
It'll be the three formats.
Tonight, President Trump defending, striking a boat allegedly carrying drugs to the U.S. twice.
I want those boats taken out.
And if we have to, we'll attack on land also, just like we attack on sea.
And there's very little coming in by sea.
I think we've knocked out over 90% of it.
Two people initially survived.
And the administration says the decision for a second strike, killing all on board, was made by Admiral Frank Bradley.
Today, Defense Secretary Pete Hegset said even though he watched the first part of the attack live, he'd moved on to his next meeting before the second strike.
Admiral Bradley made the correct decision to ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat.
We have his back, and the American people are safer because narco-terrorists know you can't bring drugs through the water.
So you didn't see any survivors, to be clear, after that first strike.
I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because the thing was on fire.
It was exploded in fire of smoke.
You can't see anything.
You got photos.
This is called the fog of war.
It comes as the administration ramps up its crackdown on illegal immigration.
A senior law enforcement official tells NBC News ICE is planning an operation this week.
Oh, hold on a second.
So now I see what CBS did is what NBC is doing as well.
They're somehow tying in drug boats and killing people to immigration and ICE.
It's almost like a mind trick.
Like, you know, think about killing people, you know, boats, borders, stuff, you know, brown people.
Oh, yeah, Somalis.
Exploded in fire of smoke.
Pirates.
Oh, you can't see anything.
You got digital.
This is called the fog of war.
It comes as the administration ramps up its crackdown on illegal immigration.
A senior law enforcement official tells NBC News is planning an operation this week in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area, where there's a large Somali population.
You told me to look into Minnesota and their fraud on visas and their programs.
50% of them are fraudulent.
Federal prosecutors have charged dozens of people in Minnesota's Somali community for allegedly stealing hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money meant for social service programs.
This beautiful place, and I see these people ripping it off their country's stakes, and we don't want them in our country.
When they come from hell and they complain and do nothing but bitch, we don't want them in our country.
Let them go back to where they came from and fix it.
Now, there's an important nuance in what's happening.
This is a good catch.
Well, yeah.
Associative news coverage is what it amounts to.
And they both associate one with the other.
Yes.
Two separate stories.
Let's drag them together and make Trump look bad.
There's an important nuance in the Somali business, which surprisingly ABC tagged in this report.
This morning, ICE preparing to ramp up enforcement operations in Minnesota as President Trump lashes out at immigrants from Somalia, saying we don't want them in our country and continues to attack Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.
We're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country.
Ilan Omar is garbage.
She's garbage.
Her friends are garbage.
These aren't people that work.
These aren't people that say, let's go.
Come on, let's make this place great.
These are people that do nothing but complain.
They complain.
And from where they came from, they got nothing.
You know, they came from paradise and they said this isn't paradise.
But when they come from hell and they complain and do nothing but bitch, we don't want them in our country.
Minnesota is home to the nation's largest Somali population.
Multiple law enforcement officials tell ABC News that ICE is preparing for a surge operation in the state, focusing on St. Paul and Minneapolis as early as this week.
The city's mayor says police won't help ICE when they arrive.
Targeting Somali people means that due process will be violated.
Mistakes will be made.
And let's be clear, it means that American citizens will be detained for no other reason than the fact that they look like they are Somali.
The president criticizing Somalis for weeks now, terminating temporary protected status for Somalis and writing, send them back to where they came from.
And this morning, the Trump administration cracking down on immigration nationwide, pausing all immigration applications for people from 19 so-called countries of concern, including Somalia, Afghanistan, Venezuela, and Sudan.
We have to remember that the use of temporary status has been abused by Biden and by Obama both to bring in cheap labor.
And what I think President Trump here is railing against is, hey, we gave these people temporary protective status because Somali is garbage.
It's a hellhole.
And now they're sitting here and bitching around.
Get them out.
And he said, all right, you want to be that way?
You want to steal our money?
Because, wow, Republicans and Democrats both have blown the whistle so many times on Minnesota about hundreds of millions of dollars being stolen.
And did you see the Tucker Carlson interview with the woman who says that Tim Walz has been shoveling top secrets to the Chinese?
That's why he's taking all those trips to China when he's in the National Guard.
Oh, no.
I remember that part, but I don't remember.
No, I did not hear this.
It's quite good.
Well, so somewhere the president called Tim Waltz a retard.
Oh, yeah, on Thanksgiving.
Well, I have the clip.
I want to hear the clip.
Well, no, I have the reaction clip, which is quite good.
Well, the one on the airplane?
No.
Okay.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Well, I have Trump responding on the airplane.
What's your reaction clip?
Ah!
Caught you off guard, didn't I?
A little bit, yeah.
Well, you see.
Oh, man.
It's such a funny clip, too.
Well, let me play the.
This is short.
This is Trump on the plane being asked, do you stand by calling Governor Waltz retarded?
In that same post, you mentioned Tim Waltz, and you called him what many Americans do find an offensive word retarded.
Do you stand by that claim of calling Tim Waltz retarded?
Yeah, I think there's something wrong with him.
Absolutely.
Sure.
Yeah.
You know what?
I think there's something wrong with him.
Anybody that would do what he did, anybody that would allow those people into his state and pay billions of dollars out to Somalia.
We give billions of dollars to Somalia.
It's not even a country because it doesn't function like a country.
It's got a name, but it doesn't function like a country.
There's something wrong with Walt.
This is the clip.
This is the talk.
This is interesting.
Talk sketch Trump.
Here's the thing.
Okay.
I'm not a blind Trump supporter.
I don't really trust any politicians.
And I voice my discrepancies with Trump all the time.
However, calling Tim Waltz a retard on Thanksgiving Day is exactly what I voted for.
So that was a funny clip from this woman, and it was stolen.
The whole gag was stolen by the red-headed libertarian on TikTok on Twitter.
She did the same gag.
Oh, really?
I find it very, and I think it's like, you know, this doesn't steal people.
We would never do that.
No, we just write up, take it, and give you credit.
Now, before we leave the Venezuela thing, I do have a clip from that you would appreciate.
This is, and I don't understand what happened.
Oh, no.
What do you mean, no?
No.
You know what?
It's not the real estate people.
It's the real estate guy.
Now, I'd like to know when Clayton Morris turned on Trump.
He has this woman on who's an apologist for Venezuela's government, and she runs supposedly an international news operation.
She's the editor of this thing called Kawashun News.
It's K-A-W-S-A-C-H-U-N news.com.
And it's supposed to be international.
I'm going to read the headlines from the front page of this.
Let me guess.
Trump sucks.
The top story is James Cameron's Avatar 3D drops stunning new trailer.
Okay.
That's the top story.
It's right at the top of the so what you call the fold.
This is the woman's Camilla Escalante.
And now here's the other headlines.
Experts confirm Israel's Gaza assault is genocide.
Bobby Kennedy reignites eugenics debate.
Shocking scandal exposed.
Trump Musk's hunt for social security fraud deemed a sham.
And by the way, every headline's got an exclamation point at the end.
Oh, of course.
That's what you do.
Donald Trump, emblem of universal decline and collapse.
GOP's agenda exposed.
How they're making your life tougher.
This looks like high school runner slams main GOP lawmaker for targeting trans race winner.
This looks like my YouTube feed.
Anyway, it goes on.
But it's like ridiculous.
And so here we have her on the show.
And then Clayton goes on to a rant, which is information that I had no idea.
Now, we need to explain to everybody that we know Clayton and Natalie personally.
Natalie worked for me.
Yeah.
You trained her.
You showed her how to do it.
Some me.
I gave her some.
Yeah, I was the.
No, you trained her.
I dressed her and got her new hair.
That was my job.
And I think I did a pretty good job.
Got rid of his goofy glasses, which are now back.
Like, he's almost the goofy glasses again.
You know, they moved to Portugal five years ago.
They're back in New Jersey.
They're back in New Jersey.
And you just look up Morris and Vest and you'll learn more about them.
Let's play the clip.
And Trump seemed to have at one point sought that this was his opportunity to do so, but he's seeing that the optics aren't very good and that people, including the United States and his own party, are not, or at least supporters or voters of his party, aren't on board.
Well, and you hear that, you hear the MAGA people like who, you know, you know, the types I'm talking about who like lick, you know, lick President Trump's feet wherever he walks.
It's the narco-terrorists.
Like, that's what we're stopping.
It's the Venezuelan child trafficking operation.
At Newsflash, the United States is one of the largest purveyors of child trafficking in the world, in the world, in the world.
Guatemala, why Ukraine?
Ukraine is a massive child trafficking operation, yet we can pick and choose like who we defend in all of this.
It's all garbage.
We all know it's about the oil.
And the Chinese help, who have helped, of course, to try to actually refine some of this oil, which, you know, is not the best oil in the world when it's pulled out of the ground.
It requires quite a bit of refining.
And the Chinese have been able to help.
So the Chinese sphere of influence in Latin America, the oil, the Chinese, the Russian sphere of influence there, this is exactly why the Trump administration seems to be moving in this direction.
Sorry to just monologue there, but I just feel like for anyone still falling for the drug argument, they need to get their heads examined.
Okay, I can tell you exactly when he became a Trump hater.
I could even look up the date if you wanted.
No.
No.
What do you mean, no?
No, you don't have to look up the date.
I've taken your word for it.
You have a date.
When he went on Tucker Carlson's show, that's when it all started to flip.
And it's not because Clayton Morris has any political scruples or he cares about America.
No.
You think Tucker flipped him?
No.
What flipped him was: hey, if I do the stuff Tucker's doing, we'll be more successful.
He is two, Natalie and Clayton, prime examples of audience capture.
Because I know, we know what we get when we just say, no, we don't think that this is how it works.
We don't think that Israel controls America.
Oh, everyone's hair's on fire.
You shilb, enjoy your shekels.
Shekels.
Tina said the other day, where is the Jew money?
I know.
It's few and far between.
Those are populist audience capture people.
And by the way, that's a lot of them.
They think there's a movement.
It's America First.
You know, it's different from MAGA.
And Trump is all about foreign wars.
And he's the blue hat.
I have friends who think this, but he's just an ob.
He's just, he's just David Icke.
He's just completing the great reset.
Man, you guys should pay attention.
Three more years of this.
You're never going to see it again.
Ever, ever, ever.
I've said it before.
Pay very close attention to what's really happening.
But no, it's all about oil.
No, it truly is about America first.
And even saying that, you guys used to be kind of in the middle.
Now you're everything Trump says Trump is good, man.
No, no.
We just call what we see.
I like the way you always have a puke sound at the end of these people's little diatribes.
This voice you do.
You always have that.
That's always thrown in.
It's the truth.
It's how I hear it.
And I'm just like, why?
I mean.
But here's the thing about that little diatribe he did.
What's he talking about that the United States is the number one child trafficking country in the world?
That may actually be true.
Well, in what way?
Purveyor, that more kids are trafficked to the United States than any other country.
That's the way he presents it.
He says it's us doing it.
Yes, he didn't say it right.
But I think what he means is that more children are trafficked into the United States than the other country.
And we have a big country.
I don't think China has numbers.
I also, I think China has enough children of their own to do stuff with.
That sounded bad.
But anyway.
So, but these are typical audience capture.
Oh, I mean, just go back and look at him with an expert marksman.
He was in the military and he's going to explain the magic bullet that hit Charlie Kirk.
Oh, yeah, this is how it happened.
That went by the wayside.
It's all gone away.
And the leader of this ring is Candace Owens.
And actually, she tweeted something that I.
So wait, you think Candace Owens has more influence than Nick Fuentes?
Oh, yeah.
Because Nick Fuentes has got the blue hat that says America first on it.
Yeah, but Candace Owens has.
I think what's happening here.
Let me read what she posted yesterday.
Should I do the Candace voice?
I received information last night that put the final pieces together for me.
I got receipts.
I now can say with full confidence that I believe Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the leadership of Turning Point USA and some of the very people who eulogized him on stage.
Yes, I will be naming names and providing evidence for my claims.
And I am making a personal plea to every well-meaning person who donated to this Godforsaken organization to request a refund.
You are lied to and leadership new.
So this was responded to by because Turning Point USA has been very quiet for months while Candio has been on this long rant.
And Blake Neef, the producer of the Charlie Kirk show, responded.
I can play some of that in a minute.
But at the end of his long response at the top of yesterday's show, he said, we're going to do a live stream.
And it's set.
He actually posted this on X.
The live stream we announced on the show Wednesday has been set 4 p.m. Eastern, 2 p.m. local time, because it's Phoenix.
Monday, December 15th, a collection of Charlie's friends will respond to statements made by at Real Candace O to set the record straight once and for all prior to the opening of America Fest.
We'll be streaming live from Charlie's Phoenix studio.
Our offer from yesterday holds if Candace wishes to join us in person in Phoenix, she is welcome to do so.
She can let us know by the end of the day.
And then Candace replies to this.
This is all playing out on X.
This is fabulous.
Kind of weird how you didn't email or call me to ask about times or availability and chose to instead tweet this confirmation out at midnight.
Why am I learning about this on X?
December 15th does it not work in person.
And 2 p.m. is also literal time.
I do my podcast live every day, which you knew.
But we will happily cancel the daily podcast and we'll join you guys virtually instead of the live stream on the 15th if that works on your end.
So I have to say that it's what she, of all the things she's claimed, and I'd love to play a little bit of that, the producer guy's claims because it's pretty funny.
Of all this things she's claimed, it is very possible that in an organization like Turning Point USA, forget the $100 million a year, the political power of that organization is worth maybe billions or hundreds of billions.
Very at the time, at the time of electing President Trump, what Turning Point USA did, and they really turned out, I think, a lot of the late teens, early 20s voters.
I think there was that did make a difference.
But in general, just the clout of Turning Point USA, I can completely see one individual or more people within the organization going, hey, man, Charlie's screwing things up because you can't go against Israel with an election, with a campaign apparatus.
That's not going to work.
I can see that happening.
I can see people who saw all this political clout, this power.
There's all kinds of people that were hanging around the organization.
I'm going to say that's the most reasonable things that she said in a long time.
Of course, it could also just be that she is doing this with an already destabilized Turning Point USA to kill it.
You know, she could be an op for someone who is against Trump.
I mean, she certainly seems against Trump.
So anything is possible, but that's finally something she said there that made sense.
I'll just let this run until we're tired of it.
This guy runs down all of the nutty things Candio has said in the past few months.
And I've heard, I think, every single one of them.
So he's not exaggerating.
We wanted to use this segment at the top of this hour to say something important, something very important.
For the past two and a half months, there is a topic that has flooded our freedom inbox.
It has been nonstop on social media, but which we have almost totally avoided on this show.
You probably already know what I'm talking about.
Wait, wait, who is this?
This is the producer of the Charlie Kirk show because the show continues.
They just have guests come in.
Yeah, okay.
How ubiquitous it has been.
Ever since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show.
She's made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees.
She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie.
She has suggested Michael is not his real name.
It is.
I have seen his birth certificate myself.
She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way.
She doesn't work on campus events.
Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual and its details suggested a, quote, inside job.
She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country and that Turning Point has lied about this happening.
She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died.
She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died.
She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera.
She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns.
She has suggested that TPUSA faith-affiliated pastors like theologian Frank Turek, who we'll have on in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy are part of a military, quote, infiltration of Turning Point, either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are.
Even if not everyone has been named specifically, though, Candace has effectively tarred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying he goes on for seven minutes.
I'll put it in the show notes.
So it goes on to entertain.
Oh, it's very entertaining, but we have to remember one thing.
Her husband, what would you say he is?
Oh, I forgot.
He's a white guy who's part of your favorite group, the Nexus from UK.
He's a lord or something like that.
His dad is a lord.
His dad's a lord.
And when you saw Candace's husband, the first thing you said was, he's gay.
That's the first thing you said.
Then that guy is not.
Are you accusing me of saying that the first thing I said when, as soon as I saw that guy, I said, that guy's gay?
Yes.
I'm not accusing you.
You're accusing me.
It happened on this show.
Oh, but you know, British guy.
He looks gay.
And he's involved in banking with the Dutch banks.
He has, you know, so much British stuff going on here.
Yeah, he's British.
That does, that does not, well, but from a lordship, you know, from peerage.
Yeah, peerage British.
He's part of the system.
Yes.
So this guy.
Yeah, this is the royal system that's all over the world, even though you like to isolate it.
Yeah.
You want to hear more of this guy's accusation?
Oh, Kepler, just a little bit more.
He was, quote, betrayed by, quote, everyone.
She has said Charlie's murder, quote, had to be approved by Charlie's friends and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too for quote knowing the truth.
She's made claims of financial impropriety and fraud at Turning Point, adding up into the millions of dollars, which again is not true.
Charlie made sure the organization was audited by a third party every year.
He personally reviewed and he signed off on every expense report.
And it goes on.
But remember, she said Israel had killed him and she's still on the hit list from the Macron's.
Oh, yeah, she's on the hit list.
Yeah, I mean, because Macron and I forget who is ganged up, they're going to kill her.
They're going to kill her.
They're going to kill her.
So, you know, like some again, I think turning point is done.
I mean, whether they realize it or not, but Charlie Kirk was Turning Point USA.
No, Charlie Kirk.
No, he's a charismatic leader.
That high-order charismatic.
This is not a slouch.
No.
This is a high-order charismatic leader that was running the thing and keeping it together just because of his influence.
You know, this is Aura.
He could do it.
He could manage to do it.
This is like one of those guys.
Like Elon Musk is a little bit like this.
And he gets people to do stuff.
And okay, I'd rather work for him than anything else.
And once he's gone, which is the idea, it's called taking out the head of the snake.
It's over.
And yeah, it could linger.
It could become something else, but it's not going to be what it was where it was headed.
No.
So whatever's going on, if somehow it turns out, I mean, she could be right.
She could be right.
She says she's got names.
She's got evidence.
She's got proof.
Okay.
I mean, I've been waiting.
She's got receipts.
I mean, I.
This is receipts.
Where did that crop up, by the way?
Everybody, I've got receipts.
That's good for your taxes.
What do you mean you get it received?
That's been going on for a while.
But she kind of revived it.
I've got the receipts.
Yeah, that's been a thing for a while.
You know, people say that no agenda show current divorced.
They got the receipts, which I think means clips.
I'm not sure.
Clips.
We got plenty of clips.
We got clips, man.
We got clips.
But it's, I do not deem it impossible, although, how she got from Egyptian Air Force dropping off the Hitman to Turning Point USA being responsible, that makes no sense.
But sometimes you got to.
She takes a shotgun approach or scattergun, we could call it.
Yeah.
She just.
Well, she has the CIA, the Candace Intelligence Agency.
You know, it's her version of boots on the ground.
Except I think hers are nut jobs.
You know, like, oh, look what I found.
Oh, yeah, this is good.
Where we have people, hey, I did a documentary on this.
We read nut jobs too, but we just don't read their stuff.
No, we read the good ones.
We got lots of good ones.
When the nut jobs are funny, yeah.
Well, obviously.
But it's very possible that there was a coup from inside Turning Point USA.
Now, it doesn't explain a lot of things.
And of course, ever since COVID, why would we trust our government?
Nobody trusts the government.
In any country, anyone who's smart is like, no, you lied.
We don't trust you anymore.
But people say, there's been no autopsy.
All of this comes out in court.
You don't release this kind of thing.
It's called witness tampering, even I think at some point.
It pollutes the public if you put information out before the trial.
The jury pool.
Yeah.
And so that's why it will all come out.
And there is an autopsy report.
And, you know, how come we don't know where he was buried?
It's almost like Mangione.
We're just now, just now, how long ago was the Mangione thing?
A year ago?
A year ago.
Just now it's coming to trial and things are coming out.
I have a 30-second update just as an intermezzo.
Well, the man charged with murdering United Healthcare CEO on the streets of Manhattan was back in a New York City courtroom today for a second day.
27-year-old Luigi Mangioni is charged with killing Brian Thompson last December.
The former Penn Grads lawyers are trying to get evidence against him thrown out.
That includes items found in Mangioni's backpack when he was arrested at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
They also want the 911 call that led to his capture tossed.
Mangioni has pleaded not guilty.
Not guilty plea.
That is interesting.
I didn't do it.
Not guilty.
And then that just look at my timeline and my notifications on X.
I see like something really nice happened and was kind of a local story to Austin at least.
Something really nice happened.
And then I'll tell you what people had to say about it.
The couple that founded Dell Technologies, Michael and Susan Dell, have announced a $6 billion donation toward new investment accounts for children proposed by the Trump administration.
The Invest America accounts will launch next year.
The Treasury Department says it'll put $1,000 in the accounts of at least 25 million children.
The money donated by the Dells will be for kids 10 years and younger.
They'll be eligible to receive $250 each.
The Dells say they're investing in children because they are our future.
So it's a total of $6.5 billion.
And it's kind of a cool idea, these America investment accounts, which, you know, I think the president calls them Trump accounts, but it's really called Invest in America accounts.
So the Dells, they say, you know, we're going to put in $250 per child, 10 years younger, 25 million children.
It'll cost us $6.5 billion minimum, they said, at least.
And they said, hey, rich people, you should do the same.
And all anybody could talk about is Dell's wife.
That's got to be a dude.
That's a dude.
That's a dude.
What's up with that?
What's up with her eyes?
It's like, that to me is astounding.
No one talks about the money.
It's just she looks like a dude.
Have you ever met Michael Dell's wife, Susan?
No, I never have.
And I know Michael, but I never met his wife.
But she, if you look at her pictures, she had, she had an eye.
Here's what happened.
Eye operation.
She had an eye job.
And I don't know if she was a Texas person or who it was.
Cattle rancher.
A cattle rancher.
But if you look at older pictures of her, and she was a brunette, especially, she was skinny.
She's thin, and her eyes are kind of closed.
They were kind of like they were not a bug-eyed look.
She had normal looking eyes of a kind of, you know, they were normal looking.
If you looked at her, you said, that's normal looking.
It's not, she didn't have the big, beautiful eyes or that sort of thing.
And I guess she wanted the big, beautiful eyes.
And so somebody did an operation on her and they bugged her eyes out.
She looks like a freak.
I feel bad about it.
I know, me too.
It's obvious what happened there.
But, you know, the world we live in today is just, oh, man, what is that?
Yeah, people should recognize what it is and what happened.
Just like the same, the people that have that bucal fat removed.
You know, you see that and it's like, oh, my God, why did you do that to yourself?
Because some doctor convinced them that it was a good idea because it makes your face look a little more gaunt, less round, which it does, but it also makes you look like a ghoul if you're thin at all.
She should have come by the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group.
We could have given her some of that.
I can just hear the surgeon saying, within 10 days, you'll be restaurant ready.
It's going to be great.
Don't worry.
Some bruising.
You'll be fine.
Those guys lie.
Some bruising, you'll be fine.
My bug-eyed and looks like a freak.
My five-year-old.
This is just a shame.
I just love that you'll be restaurant ready.
Yeah.
Candlelight, maybe.
Anyway.
So the president had his four-hour board meeting, which is another thing that, you know, you get one snippet on the news.
It's really interesting to watch that.
And a couple of things that I wanted to highlight.
The first was the labor secretary who was doing exactly what you and I said should be happening in America.
So the labor department has wasted no time in putting that into action with our Make America Skilled Again, either grant dollars, but the intentionality of the apprenticeship program, 1 million active apprentices across this country.
We have done over 250,000 new apprentices so far in the first year and registered over 2,000 new apprenticeship programs.
Why do we need the apprenticeship programs with the men and women in the trades?
Because of the leadership of onshoring and reshoring and have a lot of these companies reinvest in America.
We have to build this country.
We cannot do that without the tradesmen and women and the craftsmen of this country.
And I think that, you know, Howard and I, we talked about that from the beginning.
And we're going to have to lean in on that because we need the labor force 700,000 new skilled jobs with electricians, construction workers, machinists, and so forth.
Attention, Gen Zers who listen to this show.
There's a future.
700,000 electricians, machinists, welders, those aren't going to be good paying union jobs.
They're going to be money in the bank because all of this manufacturing is coming back.
No one seems to care, strangely.
I'm blown away by it.
I'm like, we've always said, what happened to apprenticeships?
These are paid apprenticeships, too.
You get paid to learn.
And you can go on and do $150,000, $200,000 a year.
This is amazing.
By the way, I got a note from Nolan about another thing Gen Zers can't do.
Oh, okay.
We should be on the list.
Okay.
He says, I thought this was relevant to reading clock and Florida ounces.
Two co-workers recently stopped me in the hallway to ask me how to strike matches.
Every time we try to light them, they break, they said.
I showed them the proper technique, then stole their matches.
So isn't that interesting?
Don't know how to strike a match.
I can see that.
Well, there's no such thing as a matchbook anymore.
So you have to buy those big stick matches in the box.
I think matchbooks are still a thing.
I haven't seen a matchbook for five, 10 years.
Well, you don't get out much.
I mean, I get out enough to find a matchbook.
I've not seen a matchbook for five or 10 years.
When's the last time you bought the cigarette matches?
They don't even sell those as much.
But if you buy cigarettes, they still give you a matchbook.
Well, I don't buy cigarettes.
There you go.
There you go.
But then the bombshell, bombshell, bombshell.
Wait, do you have a bombshell?
Where's the bombshell?
I don't have my bombshell.
The bombshell was the snap benefits.
Holy moly.
Remember how we were surprised about how much, was it $80 billion?
It's a ridiculous high number.
$80 billion.
Well, guess what?
We have so much great things to talk about at USDA, but the third thing which became very much a part of the national conversation during the Democrat shutdown was SNAP reform, food stamp reform.
When all of America saw what so many of us know and have been working on, but when you have so much rampant fraud in a program that 42 million Americans participate in, now a big, good piece of news that I hope is written about since you became president, about 800,000 of those 42 million have moved off of food stamps, which is hopefully the plan with better jobs, higher wages, et cetera.
But still, when we found 186,000 dead people or dead people's social security numbers being used, 500,000 people receiving benefits more than twice.
We had a couple of people receiving benefits in six states.
In February of this year, we asked for all the states for the first time to turn over their data to the federal government to let the USDA partner with them to root out this fraud to make sure that those who really need food stamps are getting them, but also to ensure that the American taxpayer is protected.
21 states said yes, not surprised.
29 states said yes, not surprisingly, the red states.
And that's where all of that data, that fraud comes from.
But 21 states, including California, New York, and Minnesota, the blue states, continue to say no.
So as of next week, we have begun and will begin to stop moving federal funds into those states until they comply.
And they tell us and allow us to partner with them to root out this fraud and to protect the American taxpayer.
As Joe Biden was working to buy an election a year ago, he increased food stamp program funding by 40%.
So now as we continue to roll that back.
Yeah.
Isn't that interesting?
Unbelievable.
40% increase and the blue states don't want to give their data.
Okay.
No.
No, that's typical.
Yeah.
I didn't see that report on the news.
I wonder why.
I didn't see it anywhere on the news.
I'm not sure what happened.
They must have overlooked it in the editorial meeting when they decide to omit stories on purpose because it reflects poorly on the Democrats and they might not do as well as they could do in the midterms and the news media is in on it.
Nah, get out of town.
Nah, that's not possible.
That can't be.
So I have some clips.
I have immigration crackdown clips.
I have Colonel McGregor.
Oh, I want to hear McClure.
An analysis of Ukraine.
Well, if you're going to bring the McGregor clips in, that's when we get to play .mp3.mp3.
Do we play that first?
No, no, no.
Okay.
This is an analysis.
And McGregor goes on this show called the Something Something.
Some of the ex some vet guys does a thing called the something something deep dive.
And McGregor's on the show.
This show is on YouTube.
It has all of 30K listeners.
And of course, McGregor won't do an interview with us, with a million listeners.
Well, not with you.
Not with you.
Well, whatever.
He didn't like your offensive that he's a stick in the mud, but he still has good stuff to a point.
He does not recognize the salesmanship of Donald Trump.
His analysis is good, though, and he brings in some, he brings in a perspective that is enjoyable to listen to because it is a little, it comes in from a different angle.
And this is McGregor analysis of the war.
What do you make of that charge that Europe and Ukraine are trying to sabotage Trump's 28-point peace plan to put poison pills in that they know Russia won't accept?
Well, the peace plan is no peace plan.
It's got lots of poison pills in it anyway.
So I think that's dead on arrival.
Let's understand what Kushner and Witkoff are about.
They're trying to salvage something for President Trump.
President Trump wants to be able to declare a victory for President Trump.
This has nothing to do with Ukraine as far as he's concerned.
He could care less.
He's already abdicated his responsibility for leadership in Europe and NATO.
So apparently he doesn't have the authority that he needs from his backers in New York City and the city of London to move forward to really do anything.
So what is he doing?
He sent Kushner and Witkoff to go over there and say, look, Mr. Putin, we don't really disagree with you.
What we really want is some sort of bone that you can throw Trump so that Trump can come out publicly and say, look, I've done everything I can, and this is the road to peace.
And I've negotiated this with President Putin.
He's on board.
Now it's up to everybody else.
And as he said a few days ago, if they're not going to accept this, then as far as he's concerned, Ukraine can fight out its little heart.
You know, this is nonsense.
None of this is substantive.
The Russians have laid out routinely the minimal conditions for the acceptance of any peace agreement.
They have never changed.
So what do Witkoff and Kushner think they're going to get?
In other words, the baby is ugly.
The baby's not going to become beautiful.
It's ugly.
It's in the cradle.
Some would like to strangle it.
Trump wants to rescue it, but it's not going to happen.
So it doesn't make any difference what Kushner and Witkoff do.
Nah.
Okay.
I have some clips that can parry that, but we'll listen to your side.
Okay.
Let's play part two of this.
And believe me, I'm sure that President Putin and his inner circle understand this.
And if they can throw a bone to Donald Trump, give him something that he can point to that says, I created this.
I'm the heroic figure that brought peace, tranquility, and good fortune to Ukraine.
They'll do it because they want this damn thing over as well.
Not because they're losing, not because they can't win.
That's all nonsense.
Now, let's move to the European side.
Metz is on very thin ice.
Look at events in Berlin.
Look at the people in the streets.
Look at the strength that the people on the right, the nationalist right in Germany, are achieving.
They're not a bunch of crazies.
They're not Nazis or any of this other crap that the globalists promote.
They're simply German nationalists who said, enough's enough.
And look at their platform and what's in their platform.
Their platform says, we want a restoration of good relations with Russia.
We want to go back to doing business with the Russians.
The majority of Germans will support that.
They know that.
Metz knows it.
This is the final hour for Metz, for Macron, for Starmer and the others.
They have to come up with something that keeps the war going.
If they can't, and God forbid, peace should arrive on the battlefield because Zelensky suddenly leaves the country or he and his friends are accidentally blown up.
Who knows?
Whatever happens, that's the end of them.
They lose everything, whatever little bit of credibility they may still have.
And Macron and Mance are always, they're all hovering down there around 30% approval ratings.
Starmer is probably lower.
It's over for them.
Well, I'm in agreement there.
Certainly on the Zelensky might get blown up bit.
Unfortunate drone incident.
Something can happen.
Oh, his brain left.
His brain left the building.
The guy's an actor.
He's a dancer.
A dancer, yeah.
He's a tiny dancer.
It's true.
He's a tiny dancer.
He's a tiny dancer.
This brings us to he to make his point.
This goes on.
I have two more clips, but to make his point, he brings in your buddy, Ruta.
Yeah.
And to prove the point, he says he says Ruta's a see, this is where he starts missing the point.
He doesn't see Ruta as a sales guy.
Yeah.
Doesn't understand Trump as a sales guy.
He doesn't get sales.
He's a military guy.
Oh, man.
This is so good.
And so because he doesn't get sales, so he plays Ruta.
So they play a clip of Ruta, and the clip they play is this one, which was two days ago.
This is the MP3 MP3 clip.
But this is Mark Ruta with his latest appeal.
As we work for peace, we cannot lose sight of Russia's increasingly brutal attacks against Ukraine.
Russia is systematically targeting civilian infrastructure, depriving Ukrainians of heat and light at the start of winter.
Russia is not alone in this war as China continues to be its decisive enabler.
And the Iran and North Korea also provide support.
Since the earliest days of Russia's full-scale invasion, they have shown unwavering commitment to Ukraine.
In recent months, European and Canadian allies have provided billions of dollars of essential U.S. equipment to Ukraine through Pearl.
This support is an important part of our ongoing efforts to ensure Ukraine has what it needs to defend today and deter future aggression.
So what you called .mp3.mp3, I have that exact clip in my list as Rutte's new sales pitch.
And before we get back to McGregor, I have 40 seconds because a lot went on in Europe.
This is how, before he even got to that pitch, this was the wind-up before the press.
What's important is that the weapon flow and all the other supports keeps on flowing, including...
We must keep the weapons floating, flowing!
They must keep flowing.
The Danish Lithuanian initiative of investing in the defense industrial base in Ukraine, including the Czech Ammunition Initiative, including all the bilateral support going into Ukraine.
I commend what the Irish have announced yesterday.
So I think this is all important.
Of course, Ireland, not a NATO, but still supporting Ukraine.
Of course, the way to fund it is debate.
And I'm not going into that because this is really up to the EU.
And I know the European Union is working hard at solving that issue.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
We'll meet again after all the meetings.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
Thanks.
And I'll get to the money bit after your McGregor stuff.
So, yeah, oh, yeah.
Well, there's one little clip.
I got two clips left, but there's a short clip here, which was to me, oh, okay, because I've been bitching and moaning and groaning about this one little, and I never thought about this.
And this is the clip three.
This is the aha clip.
And I just want to play this as a side kind of an aside, and then I'll reference back to my earlier complaints.
The Russians have been very precise in their application of military power from the beginning of this operation.
And I say that because it's very difficult.
We talk all the time about precision strike and minimizing collateral damage.
You're always going to have collateral damage, no matter how precise you are.
But the Russians have actually done an exceptionally good job of minimizing civilian losses.
I've always said they did a 10-hour drone and missile strike, 10 hours, and they killed two.
Yeah.
This is what he's talking about.
I didn't realize that this is what the Russians are.
They're not trying to kill people at all.
They're blowing up substations and infrastructure and where the bomb-making facilities.
Who knows what?
So they are bombing for 10 hours and they're killing very few people.
Yeah.
And that's because I kept because the way the news presented is a Russian did this and they killed a baby.
And, you know, it was the whole thing.
But wait a minute, they bombed for 10 hours and they killed a baby.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's the reason.
I did.
So I think McGregor hit something there that made it worth my while.
Now, here's the last part, which you'll appreciate.
But what I want to stop and get people to think about is who in the hell is Ruta?
Where does he come from?
I don't wish to be too delicate in this sense.
Hold on.
Let me just set it up.
He was in human resources with the rest of the ladies.
No, he doesn't get that granular.
It's more generalized.
Okay.
But he's from the Netherlands.
How many people live in the Netherlands?
70%.
Well, if I were running the show, I would say, how many forces can the Dutch put into the field?
10.
How many forces can the Norwegians put in the field?
11.
Remember Stoltenberg from Norway making all these utterly ridiculous and stupid remarks, 90% of which were lies.
The same thing with Ruta.
You know, anybody who is a real leader in the West would turn to these people and say, shut up and sit down.
We, the United States, Washington, have no interest whatsoever in continuing this destructive and pointless war with Russia.
So we're not interested in what you had to say any longer.
You know, the Germans understood this for years.
The Russians have always understood it.
At some points, you need to say, put up or shut up.
During World War II, when we had 63 divisions in France, the British, including the Canadians, had 19.
And the thing that no one on the Soviet side could never understand was why Eisenhower paid any attention whatsoever to what Montgomery and Churchill had to say.
They had no skin in the game compared with us.
63 divisions versus 19.
Well, you have a similar situation today in Europe.
What is your military power?
How many forces have you got?
The answer to those things is not much, if anything, worthy of attention.
So someone needs to tell these people, shut up, sit down, here's the answer.
That is what President Trump should do.
No, he really doesn't understand the game.
At all.
No, he misses the he doesn't understand sales.
Because here is Rutte, being that he's got the brown shoes on.
He's good to go.
Well, I do not.
No, I don't think that plan B we have to think about because the U.S. is very consistent in support for Ukraine.
So the question was, what if America pulls out?
He says, no, no, no, that's not going to happen.
All NATO allies are very consistent.
Of course, what the U.S. told us is we want to supply Ukraine with necessary weapons, both lethal and more lethal.
Yes, we want to supply with weapons.
This is a sales gig.
But we expect Europeans and Canadians to step up when it comes to paying for it.
And that's this whole program.
Where's your money?
Where is the money?
We're not giving you credit.
You must show us the money.
The U.S. is delivering the necessary weapons, including the air defense systems, the FX3 missiles.
More money.
For the Patriot systems, but also for the other air defense systems and all the other stuff and all the military gear you need to stay as strong as possible in the fight paid for by European and Canadian allies.
And that is the big program it started in July.
And at the moment, already 4 billion, and I think by the end of the year, 5 billion of that supply will have been delivered to Ukraine.
Critical material.
But I have no reason to think that we have to prepare for those eventualities.
No, just pay up with the money.
So the money is what's on the table.
And Queen Ursula came out yesterday and she laid, and it's interesting because I didn't realize this.
I don't.
I didn't clip it because it was so long and boring.
But she said, we have tabled two things.
Now, in America, if you say we've tabled that, it means we're not going to consider it.
Am I right?
You muted yourself, which is illegal in 29 states.
You know, it's when I open something and I, it's hard to explain how that happens.
No, it means you put it aside.
Yeah, but in Europe it means...
But it doesn't mean you're not going to address it someday.
No, but in Europe, when you say we've tabled two proposals, that means we have two proposals on the table.
What?
Yeah, I know.
I was confused.
I was really confused.
Here is the France 24 overview clip.
This high-rise in Brussels is at the center of an argument over how the EU could help fund Ukraine's war efforts.
It's the headquarters of Euroclear, a Belgian financial institution which holds the vast majority of frozen Russian assets in the EU to the tune of about 185 billion Euros.
The EU has proposed using a huge chunk of that money, or about 90 billion euros, to help Kyiv in its fight against Russia over the next two years.
And since pressure is the only language the Kremlin responds to, we can also dial it up.
We have to increase the costs of war for Putin's aggression, and today's proposal gives us the means to do this.
The money would come to Kyiv in the form of so-called reparations loans.
In theory, the money would be repaid on the condition that Russia pays reparations to Ukraine for the destruction it caused during the war.
The plan also rests on the assumption that Russia's assets would remain frozen for the foreseeable future.
Moscow has called the plan illegal.
Yes, Russia decides to sue Euroclear.
Belgium says it alone would suffer all the legal and financial risks.
It is not acceptable to use the money and leave us alone facing the risks.
We have repeatedly said that we consider the option of the reparations loan the worst of whole, as it is risky.
It's the worst of whole.
It has never been done before.
Nope.
Ukraine's budget and military needs through 2027 total an estimated 130 billion euros.
And with the Trump administration having stalled financial support for Kyiv, Europe is under growing pressure to fill the gap.
Okay, so this is kind of what McGregor was talking about, because they need money to fund this thing to keep this war going.
They can't really print money in Europe.
They don't have a world reserve currency.
So printing up a couple hundred billion euros is going to weaken the Euro.
And it's a non-starter.
So there's only two ways they can do it.
And Ursula laid this all out.
One is you can raise the money in the capital market, so borrow, which would, I mean, that also could weaken the whole EU, the Euro and everything, create some kind of bond.
Or you steal the Russian money.
And here's Ursula explaining the math because she's taken it to a level.
You know what?
We're not going to steal the money from Euro clear.
You've got to listen carefully to what she says.
We're only going to take 90 billion to start with.
And here's how the math works out.
That was a very clear tasking by the European Council.
You remember it started with me writing a letter to the European Council, the three different options that were in the options paper, a debate we had last time, and the very clear tasking to come early enough before the December European Council with the legal text.
That's what we're doing here today.
And now to the figures.
If you take all CSDs and commercial banks, the immobilized Russian assets, overall, it's 210 billion.
Now, what did we do?
We looked at the needs for Ukraine in the years 26 and 27 as calculated by the IMF.
And this is 137 billion euros.
And we've said we cover two-thirds.
And this is how we come to the 90 billion euros, two-thirds of these needs for the next two years.
So that's a lot of nice accounting.
But really what she's saying is there are CSDs.
So there's secure deposits of Russian money in different banks.
So she's saying, well, you know, we won't go to Euroclear.
We'll steal the money from all the other places where the assets have been frozen.
And I found an analyst on CNBC.
I'd never seen her before.
She has kind of an Eastern European, maybe Russian accent, but she did a pretty good job of analyzing what is really happening here.
First of all, the frozen assets is way bigger than 90 billion.
That's not her, obviously.
I can explain the figure in a moment.
Okay, explain the figure.
So it's 90 billion for a period of two years.
So there's more.
You're right.
We're talking about almost 300 billion that are indeed frozen at the moment.
But what the European Commission is saying is that we are going to use, for the time being, only 90 billion for the next two years to support Ukraine.
That doesn't cover all the financing needs, but it's just what the Commission decided to put forward at this stage.
I see a flaw in this plan immediately.
And I'm pretty sure as part of, I don't know, we are down at 27 bullet points or 28 bullet points between Putin and Trump at the moment.
I'm pretty sure that part of that plan was you hand back those frozen assets.
You're right.
And there's so many angles we could take with the story because there are so many issues here, actually.
So I'll try to explain it as best as I can because.
It's good enough for me, that's for sure.
I'll do my best.
So what the European Commission said yesterday was, okay, we need to support Ukraine with further financing.
What we're suggested to do is to use the so-called frozen Russian assets that are held on the European continent.
So what the Commission is trying to do here is to try to use the assets that are available across the bloc, not just in Belgium.
Because we know Belgium, where the majority of the assets are held, has had very strong legal concerns about this problem.
But even before the Commission put forward this proposal, Belgium was already saying they had issues with it.
We heard, for instance, from the Foreign Affairs Minister, Maxime Prévault, saying that they were going to plead for alternatives here.
And indeed, they believe that EU borrowing is the best option rather than using the frozen Russian assets.
So Ursula herself is a sales lady.
She came out with these two proposals.
One, well, we'll just borrow the money, or we can steal it from the Russians over here.
And our analyst explains what that was really about.
It was your typical, would you like the sandals, the sneakers, or the shoes I really want to sell you?
What the European Commission also suggested yesterday was if we don't go down the route of using the frozen Russian assets, we can indeed go to the markets and actually borrow cash to support Ukraine.
But that is actually even more complicated from a European perspective, because in order to do so, you would need all of the member states, all of the 27, to say yes to that plan.
And we know countries such as Hungary are likely to raise issues with that.
So one Euro official told me yesterday that by putting forward two proposals, what the European Commission is trying to do here is to show to the member states that the most viable option is still to go down the route of the frozen Russian asset.
Now, we know the Russians think this is illegal.
It is illegal.
It would end at least the European financial integrity.
Who would ever want to bank with anything?
Why would you send your money over there for any investment purposes or anything for that matter if they're going to steal it?
Well, according to Ursula, on a whim.
Listen to this.
Listen, who's egging her on to do it?
We have informed the U.S. administration.
I've spoken, for example, to Scott Besent that we are planning before, right before today, that we're planning on developing a system of reparations loan.
It was positively received.
I've also informed the others.
I could just hear, yeah, yeah, do it, Ursula.
Good idea.
Go ahead, do it.
Do it.
You can do it.
Who cares about the city of London?
Who cares about Frank?
We're doing.
Just do it.
Who have potentially immobilized Russian assets.
And the construction is in a way that it invites others also to join with their immobilized Russian assets.
Oh, yeah.
So that they can contribute also to the financing of Ukraine and contribute in the way the reparations loan is working.
Dude, this is so dumb.
I don't even understand.
Is her job, is it to kill the European Union?
Maybe we've misjudged her.
Maybe she's a Manchurian candidate.
I don't think so.
And listen to this.
If that wasn't stupid enough, oh, but we got to topper.
The move that looks set to turn off the tap on Russian gas forever were praised by the European Commission presidents.
We're turning that page and we're turning it for good.
This is the dawn of a new era.
The era of Europe's full energy independence from Russia.
After pledging to reduce Russian energy intake following the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the share of Russian gas in EU imports has fallen from 45% in 2021 to 12% as of October this year.
But while Europe has slashed pipeline deliveries, it's partly turned to liquefied natural gas, shipped by sea, unloaded at ports, and fed back into the network.
That's convenient.
Imports of Russian LNG into the EU are still expected to amount to 15 billion euros this year.
Under Wednesday's agreement, Russian pipeline gas will be phased out by the end of September 2027 and LNG imports banned by the end of next year.
The Commission also wants to end remaining imports of Russian oil with legislation to be proposed next year.
But this agreement is already facing challenges from member states.
Slovakia, still highly reliant on gas and oil from Moscow, is weighing its legal options, while Hungary's foreign minister says his country already has a plan.
As soon as the Repower EU plan is formally adopted, we will immediately challenge it before the EU Court of Justice.
Legal proceedings will start without delay.
Preparatory work is already underway.
We will do everything necessary to defend Hungary's energy security.
Meanwhile, the Kremlin has condemned the move, saying it would doom Europe to becoming less competitive and lead to higher prices for consumers.
Of course.
These people are insane.
And right on queue, in the Netherlands, where they have an open energy market, which means you can, you know, you can brand your own version of energy.
Oh, we're the green guys.
Take our electricity.
Every single one of them is now introducing smart heating.
Oh, yeah.
So, so you will get a little, you know, this is we this already failed here in America, but yeah, we're going to give you a thermostat that we can control to heat your home smartly.
You remember it was that I think it was three years ago.
Maybe it was longer than that.
Two or three years ago, we had friends here.
They're in their 70s.
And, you know, the business people that have some stores around here used to do some real estate.
And they both had the flu, which is not nice.
But he said he sent out a text message to say, hey, you know, I signed up for that smart heating thing.
And now it's, you know, it's 28 degrees and we can't turn the heat up manually because they had opted into one of those stupid plans.
So I had to take a space heater over to them.
This is the dumbest idea.
All of Europe is being ruined by this woman.
It's, I don't know.
So this is a capture by the Greens.
I mean, this is obviously a problem.
Now, this brings us to another point.
I think McGregor made it or somebody did, which is they predict that Germany, because of the AFD, at some point, they're going to cave and the AFD is going to take over the place.
Yeah.
And the first thing they're going to do is get out of the EU and get out of NATO.
Of course.
Because then they can do business.
Russia, really?
Well, you don't want their gas?
We'll take it.
And the Russians will have it at a cheaper price.
I mean, anything's cheaper than hauling it over in a ship.
Right.
And then so they just ramp back up.
I mean, Germany is the industrial powerhouse that can ramp up in a minute if you give them cheap energy.
And they'll just run roughshod over the rest of those European countries, which are going to be what's left of the EU.
They're going to be starving.
Starving.
The hunger winter.
Let's get an update from the North Sea Nexus on how the Russian peace talks went.
The announcement of the EU's plans came after high-stakes peace talks between the U.S. and Russia in Moscow failed once again to produce any breakthrough.
Russia has dismissed any suggestion that Vladimir Putin rejected all of President Trump's proposals.
But to add a name...
That's an interesting line that she uses here.
So...
That's very interesting construction.
You're right.
I heard it too.
Yeah, she said.
But you're going to have to elucidate, read it or repeat it or I'll do both.
So she says, Russia has rejected any claims that Putin rejected all of the proposals.
So what you're hearing as a casual listener of the BBC is, oh, Russia rejected all claims, rejected everything.
But that's not what she actually said.
She said the Russians rejected this notion that Putin rejected everything.
Again, to produce any breakthrough, Russia has dismissed any suggestion that Vladimir Putin rejected all of President Trump's proposals.
But at a NATO meeting in Brussels this morning, the Secretary General Mark Rutter said if the peace talks took too long, there were two ways to put pressure on Russia.
One is making sure that the Russians understand that a weapon flow into the UK.
Weapons will keep on going.
The weapon flow is happening today, thanks to the U.S., thanks to the Europeans.
U.S. sending its crucial gear to Ukraine, paid for by Canada and European allies.
Yeah.
But also Europe and Canada doing a lot bilaterally.
And secondly, making sure that the economic sanctions bite, that they are effective.
That's also exactly what's happening.
Despite the customary smiles.
They bite, the people will be very cold in Europe, but they bite.
Okay.
They bite.
Despite the customary smiles and handshakes for the cameras, NATO countries meeting here know they've been sidelined from the Ukraine peace process by their biggest and most influential member, the U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is conspicuous by his absence.
President Trump is pushing for an immediate end to the war and has already stopped giving weapons to Ukraine.
What does that even mean?
Rubio is conspicuous by his absence.
What is the subtext of that?
There is some subtext because in all the analysis I've been listening to, there's something about Rubio is that I think McGregor's right.
The whole thing is really about getting a bone for Trump and ending the war that way with some phony baloney thing that's going to happen in Rubio just not part of it because he would it's he's not that's not him.
They want these two sales guys in there, Witkoff and Kushner, to try to push this across the line.
Rubio's not involved.
He's just not involved.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio is conspicuous by his absence.
President Trump is pushing for an immediate end to the war and has already stopped giving weapons to Ukraine, although he is still willing to sell them via Europe for now.
As for the Putin-Witkoff meeting in Moscow last night, the Kremlin said it would be wrong to suggest President Putin had rejected the U.S. proposals and insisted there could be more meetings with the Americans for as long as necessary.
Crucially, though, there's no sign whatsoever Moscow is ready to give up its key demand for Ukrainian territory it hasn't yet taken in exchange for ending the war.
So that's the BBC's take.
And remember, it starts with the talks have failed.
Let's listen to the yeah, this is a BBC.
They're just gone off the rails.
You have to say that this brings back to mind the Zelensky either fleeing the country or getting blown up.
Blown up.
Oh, yeah.
But I think he's going to flee the country.
Well, they only have two weeks, two weeks until the money is on the table or decided what they're going to do to continue to weppenflow.
But the thing is, I think there's an ambassador somewhere.
There's the Ukrainian ambassador to, I want to say, the UK.
And I think if Zelensky goes out, that guy comes in.
I've been hearing his name.
Let me see.
What is Zelensky's got to go because once he lost his aide to camp he has really run anything that his producer, his TV radio director?
His producer, yes.
Once that guy left, he fleed.
You know, he's not indicted.
He's gone.
He took off.
Yeah.
Oh, once he left.
He's in Zelensky's rudderless.
He's in Monaco.
Oh, he went to Monaco?
That's where they all are.
If you go to Monaco, there's Rolls-Royce's Ferraris all.
Oh, you know, I've been to Monaco a couple of times.
But you didn't let me finish.
All with Ukrainian license plates.
Oh, that's I don't, I never noticed.
But I'll say this: Monaco, if you're going to escape to some place and they let you do it, you want to go to Monaco.
That's where I'd go.
That's right.
Okay.
Here's the French 24 version of the talks report.
The Trump administration's top envoys have once again left the Kremlin empty-handed with no peace deal.
Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner sat down with Russia's Vladimir Putin, tasked with finding a way to end the war in Ukraine.
They discussed the framework of the revised U.S.-backed peace plan.
Putin's foreign policy aide said it was a positive discussion, but more work needs to be done.
The conversation was very useful, constructive, and very meaningful.
It lasted not for five minutes, but for five hours.
We could agree with certain things.
And President Putin confirmed this to his interlocutors.
We criticized some things and the president did not hide our critical negative attitude to a number of proposals.
No details have been given about what was discussed, but Yuri Yushikov said they did talk about the territorial problem.
Moscow has not backed on on its territorial demands, seeking Russian sovereignty, not just in the 20% of Ukrainian land currently controlled by its troops, but also calling on the Ukrainian army to retreat from the front line and concede further losses.
I love how she says there's no details, but then she has all these details.
She got a lot of details.
Russia's also calling for a more than 30% reduction in the size of Ukraine's army and the possibility of Ukrainian NATO membership to be completely off the table.
Ukrainian President Zelensky has been on tour around Europe to fortify support against Russia's invasion.
Before details of the U.S.-Russian meeting emerge, he once again reiterated his country's need for long-term deterrence against Russian aggression.
So that's a little different than the BBC.
It's like, well, the Russians right there said, well, you know, we got along on some things.
They listened to us.
We had some points we didn't agree on.
There was a real conversation.
But oh, no, not according to the BBC.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
No.
So two weeks.
The clock is ticking.
Two weeks for the money.
They're going to have to make a decision in the European Commission has to make a decision.
Are we going to borrow the money?
Are we going to steal the money?
It's such a great, this is a great show to watch.
I really love it.
It's funny.
Especially with Ursula and Rutte.
Those two just make it great.
And then, oh, all of a sudden, let me ask you a question.
What uh, what is the point of banning countries from international events?
Like you know, Russia Russia is not allowed to be an Olympic virtue signaling no real reason I mean that there is really no reason that it doesn't do anything.
It doesn't no, in fact, it does the opposite of what these events are supposed to do, which is bring people together.
Well, here's the latest.
It's a major test for the world's most beloved international song competition.
Members of the European Broadcasting Union, the body that organized Eurovision, will meet thursday to decide whether Israel can compete in 2026.
public broadcasters from spain slovenia the netherlands and ireland have threatened to withdraw if israel participates citing the palestinian death toll in gaza due to israel's offensive a boycott could be a blow for sponsorship and viewership particularly by spain which is one of the big five contributing countries We hold the same position we had months ago, when we said Israel's participation in the Eurovision festival was untenable for two main reasons.
Firstly, because of the genocide it has perpetrated in Gaza.
Eurovision is, of course, a contest, but human rights are not a contestant.
Eurovision has always aimed to remain apolitical, but Israel's participation has heavily influenced the last few editions.
This year, critics accused Israel of unfairly boosting support for its entrant, Yuval Rafael, the survivor of the october 7th attacks, pushing her to a second-place finish despite little backing from professional juries.
The controversy pushed EBU to change its voting rules aimed at pacifying angry member states.
Members will discuss thursday whether these new rules are adequate or else there will be a vote on participation.
Should Israel be voted out, it wouldn't be the first country to be barred.
Russia has been excluded from Eurovision since its 2022 invasion of Ukraine, and Belarus since 2021.
Eurovision 2026 is scheduled to take place next may in Austria.
So the Dutch, the Dutch, oh no.
If Israel uh, if Israel is in it, we're out, we're gonna boycott it.
What, what?
This presents?
A great opportunity, though.
This is where America should step up and should say, we're creating the gayest song contests of the world ever and everybody's invited and we can do it.
Yes, the And Trump could do it the gayest song contest in the world.
Let's get rid of this Eurovision crap and we'll, and we'll even give um the Uk an advantage, because they're always last.
We'll give them, we'll give them a five-point advantage.
It would be fantastic.
Handicap, a handicap, thank you a handicap.
It would be great.
This is that's what they're worried about.
Oh man man man, so uh, all eyes, two weeks um uh, i'll keep my eye on it.
Oh, we'll be, we'll be on top of it.
Of course Is so good.
I have a couple of clips from two, actually.
Which is a car, but it's not really.
In fact, I screwed it up twice.
That's good to know.
Yes.
Arctic Frost.
Yeah.
So, which one is it?
A series?
Well, the ones that say one are both the same, which should be because they're one.
But I look at the time and I say, oh, I forgot to cut it.
And I'm guessing it cuts off.
I'll tell you when to stop it.
Okay, here we go.
Good afternoon, everybody.
A little bit of history before I get to what we're, what's his name?
Yeah, the old guy.
The old geezer.
The 90-year-old, the guy.
The only guy who's still on top of Arctic Frost in our government.
All right, good.
We love him.
Policing today.
I started the investigation into Arctic Frost July 2022 based on whistleblower disclosures.
Based on these disclosures, we know that weaponized taxpayer-funded agents and prosecutors advanced the investigation.
As Arctic Frost advanced, 92 Republican organizations or individuals were targeted, not just Trump, and they were added to its scope.
And the author of that targeting list was Special Agent Washington Walter Gerardino.
He's the same weaponized agent who was involved in other cases against Republicans, including Peter Navarro.
We've learned Jack Smith secretly obtained phone record data from at least eight senators and one congressman.
I've recently been informed by Verizon that at least 11 members with Verizon accounts were affected.
That includes a hard line for Senator Cruz's office and a staffer cell phone for former Senator Loffler.
ATT informed me they challenged the legal basis for Jack Smith's efforts, and Smith backed down.
We already had this, though.
I thought we had this.
Yeah, well, he keeps repeating it because it's grassly.
And so it's like I keep getting the sense that this is a commercial for ATT.
Because we protect your privacy.
Pay no attention to that building on 2nd Street in San Francisco where we tap the entire internet.
The building with no windows.
Yeah, the building's beautiful.
It is a beautiful window.
Yeah, beautiful.
Yeah, you can stand out in front of it and point at it, and the cops will show up.
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't have to play anymore.
But this is getting no coverage whatsoever by the mainstream media at all.
And I'd like to know why.
It's like the story we covered earlier in the show, and it's another thing you brought it into clip it.
No, zero coverage.
No, but we need to do war crimes.
War crimes.
So this is a follow-up.
We can drop the Arctic Frost stuff and go to Jack Smith called.
This is another thing that nothing's going to come of it.
I'll be definitely dogging this hearing when it happens.
Special Counselor Jack Smith has been called to appear before the House Judiciary Committee.
In a letter, Chairman Jim Jordan told Smith this is over the prosecution of President Trump.
Smith investigated President Trump for allegedly meddling in the 2020 election.
He eventually brought criminal charges against Trump, one related to the election, another for allegedly mishandling classified documents.
Both cases were dropped after Trump won re-election.
The subpoena also demands all documents and communications related to Smith's time as special counsel.
Smith is expected to appear on December 17th.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Nothing will come of it.
No.
This is embarrassing.
Well, I still think that there's more going on at the Department of Justice because Bondi will do whatever she's told.
You know, the whole point of putting her in charge, and I presume Patel and Code Bongino is to rout out the bad actors and all the nonsense and all the crap that's been going on for years and years and years.
And I think some of it will come out.
I don't know about this particular item, but we're going to, it has to be.
Trump is going, as long as he stays alive.
We had a perfect MRI, by the way.
So everything's perfect.
Best ever.
In fact, he aced it.
He aced his MRI.
He aced the MRI.
That's a good.
I got an x-ray the other day.
I aced it.
I aced it, man.
No problem.
Yeah, he's out for blood for everything.
He is ripping apart all of these systems, all of it.
As best he can.
Don't forget, USAID shut down.
I mean, yeah, that's really good.
That's a big deal, isn't that?
Huge thing.
Of course, the Democrats will get in because nobody votes in the midterms, especially the lazy Republicans.
And so they'll get back in and they'll make a mess of things once they get back to the House.
They won't get the Senate.
That's why you activate Flynn, get everybody afraid of the Muslims.
Oh, we got to remove it.
Maybe I don't think that's going to do the trick.
But maybe, maybe not.
Now, I have a pre-donation clip.
Okay, perfect.
And can I just remind everybody?
I was talking to a friend yesterday, and he works for a very big Christian organization.
And his wife, she is, she's a no-agenda nut.
She loves the show.
He says to me, my wife listens more to you and John than to me, which, by the way, she's a good woman.
A good woman will keep your marriage healthy for a long, long time.
Another person on the call who also listens.
She's probably listening while she's cleaning.
That's how good of a woman she is.
Okay.
Thanks, John.
Really helpful.
Very helpful.
And his colleagues, he says, hey, you know, I didn't realize it, but when you guys go to thank people, donation, there's like a whole hour of show after that.
I said, yes.
He said, I look down.
I was like, oh, there's an yes.
We thank people who are executive and associate executive producers, and then we come back with more show.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
People think, oh, there's donations.
I guess the show's over.
We don't do donations at the end of the show.
No, but in fact, in fact, we even have a tip at the end after the second round of donations.
And there's stuff in the donation segment that you are missing.
Yes, every so often there's some really great stuff.
More often than every show.
Anyway, your pre-donation clip, which is what?
So this woman, Lily Gaddis, one of those you're familiar with.
She's a YouTuber.
Oh.
She is a character on YouTube that is, and she got demonetized and kicked off, and that's the point of the donation segment, because she was reliant on YouTube for her income.
She was making good money.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
But they kicked her off.
Now, I will remind, people may have seen these clips, but she does sometimes she does her show, which is bitching and moaning or giving advice or whatever.
And she'll do it in blackface.
You do find the most interesting and entertaining people, John.
You do.
So Lily would go in blackface, but she's the only blackface, her hands are still white.
They're like bone white.
And she's in complete blackface lecturing black women.
Oh, goodness.
And I have to say, yeah, it's racist.
And I guess it would be offensive if it wasn't so funny.
And, but so now she's singing the blues.
And this is the reason.
So this will be hard to, will this work by not seeing her doing this in blackface?
No, she's not in blackface where she's doing this.
She's now holding my because she can't even talk into it right.
And she's got lost her, I guess, her producer because it doesn't sound good.
Bad audio.
And she is lamenting the fact that she got kicked off and she's sorry because she's just being herself, blackface, just being herself as a goofball.
And it says to me, this is why we don't rely on something like YouTube for our income or we don't rely on advertisers and all the rest of it, because this can happen to us if we didn't go through the trouble and expense of having our own servers.
We have our own infrastructure.
We have our own sysadmin, which costs money.
And we have these expensive, but we don't have to worry about this woman's plight.
I have officially been demonetized on YouTube, which was my sole form of income.
Aside from a few tiny little outlets here and there, YouTube was my main money maker.
And I'm kind of stupid.
I don't have a five-year plan.
I don't plan ahead.
I live in the moment.
I put it all out there.
I'm an open book.
I live with my heart on my sleeve.
You know, if I say something, I mean it.
I couldn't censor myself.
I refuse to censor myself.
It's just impossible.
I really tried.
I really tried my best.
Believe it or not, what you saw on YouTube was vanilla me.
It was like the vanilla of the vanilla.
And I tried my best, but they want to keep a real n down.
Okay.
And that's what they're doing.
Yeah, we would not have lasted more than 18 years if we relied on any third party.
We would have less than 18 months.
Yeah, it's sad when I see this happen.
And when people say to me, hey, man, why don't you stream the show on X like Tim Poole and Tucker and other smart people?
And I don't answer that, but I will answer it here.
Because if for whatever reason, because whenever you have a big censor button, it can be used against you.
If it exists, it can and probably will be used against you eventually.
Here's the other problem.
Well, let me finish my thought.
Okay.
If we build up an audience on who are used to watching it there, and then all of a sudden it goes away.
So you lose your audience at the whim of a madman.
This is exactly what I was going to say.
And you obviously caught me in the process.
But yes, they'd get dependent on the outlet.
Yes.
And then you go away.
They kicked you off the outlet.
And the next thing you know, what happened to them?
I don't know.
Who cares?
This is the entire lost.
This is the entire reason that Dave Jones and I started podcastindex.org, which we make no money from.
And it started over five years ago when Apple started de-platforming, not demonitor, but de-platforming podcasts from Apple podcasts.
And because at the time, all apps, all podcast apps were all checking Apple's database, which they leave open, they disappeared from all the other apps.
This is the antithesis of podcasting.
And so that's why you want to get a modern podcast app.
So your favorite and these shows, and they do video too, by the way.
You can do video on those podcast apps.
It worked quite well, actually.
You know, get smart, people.
Figure it out.
You know, we literally saw Twitter going from banning people on the right, and now X is banning people on the left.
I mean, you do not want to be anywhere near a banhammer.
It's just, that's just the fact.
So, yes, the only problem we still seem to have, which I don't think is something we can solve, is emails.
And, you know, and Tina always, she's always, oh, happened again.
John had to send out another email because, you know, you have all your metrics.
You know how it works.
And these emails, whether it's the wrong emoji or you put Trump in there three times instead of two, outfits like Gmail will just market a spam.
And then it goes away or doesn't even show it all.
Gmail is inconsistent.
The problem with Gmail is everyone uses it.
That's the problem.
That's the real problem.
That's the real problem.
So yes, I sent this thing out because there was no, I didn't get enough kickback on the auto replies.
I used like 10 people or something.
They always usually 10 to 15 auto replies come back out of office.
This was more pronounced on the weekends, but this happens all the time.
None.
Zero.
I got none.
Who still puts out of office replies on their email?
Who does this anymore?
Lots of people.
More people than you.
That's got to be a boomer move if I ever saw one.
Yeah.
Well, but it's a metric.
You're never auto email.
It's not that many, but there's enough that I notice it.
You're never not gone.
So I sent the note out saying if you didn't get, I had more responses on this particular one.
I had at least 50 people.
And that means there's got to be at least a factor of five more that said, no, I never got the email.
I looked in my box.
I looked here.
I looked there.
I looked everywhere.
And it wasn't in here.
It wasn't in promotion.
It wasn't in spam.
It didn't come.
And I got like, wow, there's like one after the other after the other.
They sent this note back saying that they never heard of it.
They never saw the email.
And including the ones that really bother me, which is, I've always gotten the email.
It's always come except this time.
So what?
How does that work?
I'm using the same template for the email that I always use.
Basically, it's the same email, except it's got, you know, the tomorrow's show is different every time.
That's the main thing.
And the memes are different.
And so is the hypocrite of the week.
They're all different.
But it's the same template.
And I go light on the headline.
I can't figure out for the life of me why this one got this is a this and I have to credit I have to say this has got to be MailChimp side could be could be I mean I just have to remind you that when we had Pod Show before it was Meevio that we got a deal from a company That was also funded by the same investors, Kleiner Perkins, and I think maybe it was Sequoia only, but the big guys.
And that was a company that made deals with the big email providers, Yahoo, Gmail, probably AOL.
And you had to pay because we had customer service emails that needed to go out.
You register, you get an email, and you had to pay these companies so that you would be guaranteed delivery.
It was a huge and was like $10,000 a month just for starters.
Yes, I don't do not believe that MailChimp has not paid this bribe.
Well, then there's the problem.
Who pays the bribe?
We got to go with those guys.
Well, I think MailChimp does pay the bribe.
You think they pay the bribe?
Well, they got to update.
But I don't care because it's still having fails.
I think a lot of it happens on the MailChimp side.
It doesn't go out.
Or who knows what?
Whatever the case, there's a couple of systems I'm going to check out.
It's a pain in the ass.
I expect to do this in January.
But it's like it was a very annoying moment.
Well, to send out this second email.
And here's the problem with doing, I don't mind doing it because it's easy to crank out a second email because they charge it as a flat fee so I can send an email out every hour if I wanted to.
But every time you send out a second email, you get a bunch of people that see it and go, oh, I damn unsubscribing.
So they take themselves off the list.
So we have an X number of unsubscribers that go up exponentially when you send out too much email.
I know.
You're spamming me, bro.
I don't want you to spam Dvorak.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in Quay Yar.
Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C Dvorak.
Yeah, the morning youth, Korean Marsha C Bus on the Graphy in the Air.
Surface in the bottom of the door.
Oh, the names are nice out there.
Hold on a second.
Trolls.
Let me count you.
Don't move.
All right.
1,513.
It's cold outside.
What are you doing, people?
Those are people who are listening live to the show as we speak.
Many of them are in the troll room being interactive.
They're engaging.
They're engaging with our content.
That's how we got the notice about the dentist at the Epstein Island.
Exactly.
They help.
They're helpful.
It's like our own studio audience, but they can talk back.
And that's just one of the thousands of producers that we have.
As I said, they're listening live, and we talked about it earlier.
Get yourself a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com.
That'll even notify you when we go live.
And then you just tap on that notification and you hear the live stream in your podcast app.
Mind blown.
And because of the pod ping technology included in all of these apps, when we post the show, you're not waiting around like a schlub watching every post.
Wow, yeah, I just got the show.
It's not, you didn't upload to Apple yet, man.
Hey, are we on Spotify yet?
I don't think Spotify approved us.
Let me see.
Creators.spotify.com.
And we can bitch.
Yeah, well, let me see.
First, they were stealing our material.
First, they were stealing it without our permission.
Auto op.
Oh, oh, we're on.
We're up.
No, we're not.
Nope.
We're still processing.
We're still under review.
So that means we're not getting in.
We're not going to get in.
We're no good.
Imagine that's going to get us in.
No, imagine if we had built up a following of people listening on Spotify.
Because from day one, when they started and they had that contract, I'm like, no, we're not doing that.
Then you said bad, bad, bad.
Bad.
And then they took us off.
And imagine if there were tens of thousands of people listening or hundreds of thousands.
And then all of a sudden it's gone.
So, no, you can't count on these people.
They are no good.
We, of course, are great.
And that's why people help us in many different ways.
Time, talent, or treasure.
We pioneered the value for value model, which exactly what John was talking about.
We don't rely on any platform to pay us.
We don't have ads inserted.
You don't have to go to Patreon who ultimately, you know, that Patreon winds up taking the money on both ends.
So if you have a Patreon account and your people subscribe to your level, whatever it is, which is a fixed amount, which we don't believe in.
No, not at all.
It makes no sense, but okay.
Then they take, I think, 7% of the money you get that's their processing fee.
But the way it works is they also take the processing fee from the person who sent it.
Oh, so they're double dipping.
They are.
This is what I believe.
This is what I've heard.
But I don't see that.
I don't have it.
I do.
Well, yeah, if we were running Patreon, we would.
Absolutely.
Yeah, of course.
So we also like other ways of people helping us.
We've got end of show mixes.
We have the producers everywhere.
Producers everywhere.
I mean, who else has someone who just did a document who did a documentary on drug boats and blowing them up and wasn't allowed to show the footage?
Come on.
I mean, these, by the way, I should probably mention this.
We, where did I put it?
We got a note from Rob, the constitutional lawyer, about Sharia law in Texas.
Interested?
Of course.
Is the Pope a Catholic?
Does the bear crap in the woods?
You and John have been discussing Sharia law in Texas.
I barely know anything about Sharia law, but I do know a couple of things that you might find enlightening.
Bottom line, nothing prevents private parties from practicing Sharia law amongst themselves by agreement.
This is something that people don't really think about.
Parties can agree to be bound by whatever body of law they want, just as long as it doesn't run afoul of statute or some judicially recognized public policy.
I've actually litigated contract disputes in which parties in one state have agreed to be bound by the laws of another state or even in another country or even a set of rules that negotiate between them.
After all, this is what a contract is, an agreement to do things in a certain way.
Next time you sign a contract, look for a choice of law provision.
The odds are good.
It will make you subject to the laws of another jurisdiction.
Second, parties can also resolve their disputes outside the court system.
Typically, this takes the form of arbitration clause, also very common, except in consumer contracts.
By arbitration can take many forms.
Judge Judy, the People's Court, all these pseudo-courtroom shows are essentially arbitration.
See, I didn't know that.
Sharia-style forms are no different as long as the parties agree legitimately.
Again, there are laws that impose restrictions, especially in the employment and consumer context, where one party wields all the power.
But as long as an agreement doesn't run afoul of these laws or have a recognized public policy, Muslims and non-Muslims alike can agree to be bound by Sharia law.
This is not the same thing as enacting city ordinances that conflict with Texas or U.S. law.
It must be done by private agreement.
And both parties have to agree.
So this sounds kind of logical when you think about it.
But next time you hear Sharia law is coming.
Well, yeah, that's like your HOA, basically.
That's what it is.
And the HOA may be worse.
Callthesuits.com for all of your Sharia law disputes.
I'm sure Rob will be happy to help you.
So now let us thank the artist for episode 1822.
We titled that one, hold on a second.
1821, I'm sorry.
We titled that Genesis.
That was for the Genesis Project, the bailout of the AI companies.
Great piece of art.
Realize you because this was the artist from Jock 10, J-O-Q 10, Jock 10.
This is Comic Strip blogger.
No, it's not Jack.
I don't think it's Comic Strip Blogger.
I don't think so.
But it came from something you said in the show, which I think we actually even put that at the did we put use that at the beginning of the show?
Where you said, the phone is the devil's playground, man.
It's comic strip blogger.
It's not comic strip blogger.
Well, go back and look.
I thought it was Jock 10.
Did I not?
No.
Did I not do that properly?
Yeah.
Oh, did you credit him wrong on the show?
Yes, I did.
Yeah.
Well, I feel bad about that.
Well, you should.
Poor Comic Strip blogger got no credit.
I'm surprised he didn't call.
Well, I probably got it on the on the.
Let me see if I got it on the main page.
If I got on the credit page, let me see.
No, I got it right on the credit page, but on the page I looked at, it was still wrong.
So I'm sorry.
But yes, we broke three rules in picking this art.
One, gruesome.
This is the devil.
The devil head coming out of the phone.
Two, we used the opening clip, which pertained to the art.
Because you said the phone is the devil's playground.
And three, comic strip blogger.
I mean, we broke three rules.
We know it was three.
Devil's tool.
Let's get that.
Did you say devil's tool?
Yeah, Satan's tool.
Satan's tool.
There you go.
And the third rule we broke is comic strip blogger.
We try to always stay away from this art.
Comic strip blogger because you hate him.
I love him.
What are you talking about?
We usually block his art.
It's always a butt.
Where's the butt here?
No, this was an excellent piece.
It was a good piece.
The real rule that broke was the gruesomeness because I try to avoid it.
Because I don't like the associative problems that it creates.
It's no good.
Yeah, for marketing.
But it's such a nice piece.
And it is.
And every time I bring this up to anybody, say, call the cell phone Satan's tool.
They all, yeah, that's right.
And they're right back on it.
That's right.
Looking away.
Hold on a second.
I got a text message.
Let me go back.
Enlarging.
Ambiguing.
Thumbing this and thumbing that.
Have you ever watched women go through Instagram?
I don't know.
I don't know what.
I don't ask what they're looking at.
Well, if you see it, then they're always stopping on a picture and then they're zooming in.
Always zooming in.
Oh, yeah.
Look at that bitch.
What she got over here?
Okay.
Let me see her neck.
Okay.
Let me see her arms.
Okay.
Let me look at her ankles.
They're so judgmental.
Not all women, of course.
Sorry, women.
Yes, there's plenty of women that don't even use the phone.
And they listen to this show.
That's the one.
And talking about great women, Baronettis Kelly.
Is that a woman?
Well, I would hope so.
No, it may actually be a dude.
It's Kelly.
Why would it be Baronet Kelly?
Oh, Baronettes.
That would not be a dude.
Hello.
Oh, boy.
Well, I know.
Maybe you can move back to California.
From Sayville, New York, 433.34.
As we always like to thank our supporters financially, $50 and above.
This is our special segment where we thank what we call and deem and credit as our executive and associate executive producers credits that are good anywhere.
Hollywood Showbiz credits are recognized, including imdb.com.
$200 or above.
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We'll read your note.
John and Adam, this quote has been hitting hard lately, says Baronetus Kelly.
When you're dead, you don't know you're dead and the pain is felt by others.
The same thing happens when you're stupid.
Okay.
This was a Rickard Gervais quote.
And she says, thank God for this show and my sanity.
Oh, there you go.
Also, John, do you happen to know whether to buy lamb from Australia or New Zealand?
Which is better quality?
You're the guy with the best cooking tips.
Thanks for all the value you give to me and all the best to you too.
Baronettis Kelly of The Longest Island.
She's from Long Island, apparently.
Yeah, I sent her a note.
I've never had that much New Zealand lamb to say, but I can tell you this: if you're going to buy Australian lamb, which is really good quality, you buy it, you buy spring lamb, which is kind of counterintuitive because the spring lamb from Australia comes in around November.
So you can get this incredibly great spring lamb, which is usually more tender and tastier.
Yeah.
You want the babies.
You want to kill the babies.
That's the best kind of thing.
If you can get, yeah, well, if you want, yeah, you do.
Yeah.
And so now the season's just about to end because, you know, everything's flipped and people don't realize when they're buying Australian lamb in November.
Well, this is kind of off not the right time of year.
No, if you're buying local, no, but Australia, yes.
Why not buy some lamb?
And that's all I do.
Why not buy some lamb from America?
Don't we have good lamb?
Is our lamb no good here?
Our lamb's good here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, buy our lamb.
Go ahead and buy it in the spring.
Yeah, buy it in the spring and don't buy it from Australian lambs.
But Australian lamb is quite good.
Yeah.
All right.
Our lamb is best.
Best price.
I don't find any evidence of this.
All right.
All right.
Oh, and so that throws it to me.
Yes, it does.
Which means we go to Sir Schmidt.
Idiotic.
No, Smithy.
He even puts it in a note.
Rhymes with Idiot.
Oh, yeah.
Smitty it rhymes with idiot, Shreveport, Louisiana.
350.93.
Adam and John, hope this note finds you well.
Sorry, it's been a while since I've donated.
Better late than never.
I wanted to say thank you again for informing and entertaining me six hours a week.
I don't log into the troll room, but I always listen live.
So count me in as a plus one in the troll count.
To the other no agenda listeners out there, I'd like to remind you how much you're spending on a bunch of streams and services that don't give as much value as the no agenda show.
Right on.
It's time to donate.
Yes.
Can I get a spooky JCD donate?
Better yet, John, can you do it live?
Best regards.
Sir Smithyot rhymes with Idiot in Shreveport, Louisiana.
I have the jingle.
Do you want to do it live?
I'm going to do it live with the sound effect box.
Okay.
Donate.
Donate.
That's good.
That's a new one.
That's a new one.
I'll take it.
That's pretty good.
John Siebert comes in from Auburn, California with $341.24, which equals $381,958 Satoshis.
He's a Bitcoin donation, and it's a switcheroo for his daughter, Elaine Siebert of Auburn, California.
Let me put her name in right away, John.
I'll make sure we don't mess that up.
Okay.
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I'm going to go take a look at that.
I'm looking for a gift idea for the women in my life.
I wonder what it is.
Now we have another strike donation.
This one here is anonymous so far.
And maybe we'll get a note from somebody.
I didn't get anything, but this is for $329.98 or 96.
And in this case, we can give them a double up karma.
Yes, we can.
Here it is.
You've got.
Karma.
This arcana resin stuff is pretty cool.
It's a bunch of flowers and looks like, what's that?
Lucite?
Resin, I guess.
Huh.
Oh, so they put the, they take in these crazy flowers you get up in the foothills and they put them in a resin block and then you can give that to somebody as a gift as a decoration, table decoration.
Conversation starter.
Okay.
Yeah.
That is a good idea.
That's a cool idea.
I like it.
Zane Peterson is next from Manty, Utah.
By the way, thank you, everybody, for telling me that it is Minot Airport and not Minot.
I got it.
Zane Peterson, Manty, Utah, $312.
My buddy and I took a trip to D.C. right before Thanksgiving.
This is what was left out of my trip fund.
Wow.
Nice trip.
It never ceases to amaze me how far ahead of the curve no agenda is.
I give a lot of credit to John.
It never ceases to amaze me the knowledge he has.
Oh, I'm all on board with that.
On every topic, he has a story or a life experience.
You guys are both absolutely fantastic, but John is definitely my favorite.
Get a room, Zane.
Thank you for the value you bring.
Can you play Dogs Are People Too?
Thanks again, Zane Peterson.
Dogs are people.
And before you continue, I want to thank Holly for the beautiful One Piece flag she gave me.
I forgot to mention it on Sunday.
She came up to me in church, said, I got a flag for you.
Yes, and Holly's flag came to me too on the last couple of last mail pickup, and I wanted to thank her myself.
Yeah.
And she's got a very, we had this, she's on a little card, and so we're passing it around.
Is this Helen or how the hell?
No, it's double E. Holly, Holly, Heli, Holly, Holly.
Holly.
We finally came up with her right pronunciation of her name, but it was a very nice little note.
HR flag.
I've got three of them now.
So I don't, please, nobody's.
Stop sending them.
And I'm going to fly my flag on Saturday.
I'm going to fly it.
On your flag.
On my flagpole, yes.
On my flagpole.
Exactly.
Am I up?
Christopher Graves in Mount Occam.
Occam.
You know who this is?
Christopher Graves?
Yeah.
Been donating every single week for the past couple of weeks.
Well, he's in Mount Alcum.
Yeah.
But you'll get it.
You'll get there.
Okay.
In 1875, Inventor, he writes, Daniel Peter was struggling with his candle-making business as the new technologies advanced the creation of the oil lamp and threatened to make the candle obsolete.
Tell that to Adam when he takes a bath.
He sat across the dinner table from his neighbor, Mr. Nestle, who suggested he get into the chocolate business.
I have a clip.
I have a kind of an interesting clip to play as a bonus clip right after I read this note.
Okay.
Daniel Peter would spend a decade creating the very first milk chocolate.
Today, Little John's Candy.
Oh, Dino has.
Hello.
Little John's Candy still uses Peter's milk chocolate to cover our world-famous English toffees.
In the early 1900s, Peterson Nestle would open up the first American chocolate factory.
So I guess you could say connection is protection.
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Don't forget, we'll always wrap gifts for you at no charge.
So we ate our turkeys, our chocolate turkeys.
How were they?
Dynamite.
They were solid.
You know, I thought it would be hollow like stuff.
No, they were solid.
No, the thing weighs a ton.
Yeah, and we're saving our toffees for when the kids get here.
Christina and Kevin are coming, so that's what we're going to eat our toss.
Well, which I, you know, not to counter anything.
I hate to play it now.
No.
San Francisco sues big food.
Yes, big story.
San Francisco has filed a nation's first government lawsuit against major ultra-processed food makers, including Coca-Cola and Nussel.
Nussel.
Nussel.
The city claims these companies knew their products were harming public health, but continued to market them to consumers.
Entity's Christina Corona has spawned the story.
San Francisco has filed a lawsuit against 10 major makers of ultra-processed foods, including Kraft Heinz, Coca-Cola, Nestle, and General Mills.
City attorney David Chu says these products are addictive and harmful and claims the companies knowingly marketed them despite health risks.
We're talking about food that is not food, that is not found in nature, created by combining artificial chemicals with industrialized processes.
Chu says consumption of these products has created a major public health crisis with skyrocketing healthcare costs.
The industry has created thousands of new chemicals, which the body metabolizes and craves differently.
And they are designed to be addictive.
He said studies link ultra-processed foods to chronic illnesses, including type 2 diabetes, fatty liver disease, heart disease, and depression.
And added the impact on children has been alarming.
He stated that starting in the 1960s, big tobacco purchased major food companies, bringing over technology, marketing strategies, and addiction science.
They use big tobacco tactics to research, design, and sell addictive products.
Hold on a second.
When I played a clip from Callie Means two years ago that made this claim, you went, that's bull crap.
They didn't do that.
That's not how that happened.
Where's that commentary here?
What's bullcrap?
That they use tobacco tactics and marketing.
I don't remember this clip that you're discussing.
Okay.
They used addiction science and marketing techniques that followed the Big Tobacco playbook of creating the illusion and erosion of consumer choice.
He stated these companies targeted children using cartoon mascots from Tony the Tiger and Fred Flintstone to Paul Patrol.
These companies know their products are harming people, but they continue to design, market, and profit off them, particularly at the expense of our kids.
If I remember correctly, it was the context was RJR bought Nabisco and then they had their food side, their scientists go in and start making the food addictive.
But I guess it's good enough for court, but not good enough for this show.
I don't know.
I mean, RJR Nabisco, it became RJR Nabisco, yes.
Yeah.
But anyway, it's okay.
I just thought it was interesting that you pushed back very hard.
I don't remember bitching and moaning.
And I usually do.
I'd usually remember when I complained.
Okay.
I'm not going to pull it up and do anything embarrassing.
I won't do that.
Well, what crap.
Bull crap.
Good for the tobacco companies.
They should go into food companies.
That makes nothing but sense.
At least they got to do something with their money.
Yeah, that is the opposite of what you said before.
Sean Holman is in Noblesville, Indiana, 2-1911.
And he says, God's peace be with us all.
St. Maria Goretti, pray for us.
Thank you for your courage.
And we go to Linda Lupatkin already.
Oh, that was quick.
We're done.
Yep.
Now she's in Castle Rock, Colorado.
Did she move?
Oh, that's interesting.
I didn't notice that.
Interesting.
Jobs Karma, she wants.
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She's a little joke there about.
Oh, all right.
There you go.
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Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
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Well, that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1822 in our 19th year of just being the best podcast in the universe.
It's wonderful.
Thank you.
We'll be thanking the rest of our financial supporters, $50 and above, in our second segment.
Again, congratulations to the executive and associate executive producers.
Our formula is this.
We hit people in the mouth.
I'm going to play this two-parter here from Nilay Patel.
Remember him?
He used to be on Twit a lot.
He's with Nilay.
He was the editor of The Verge.
I think he's still at The Verge, isn't he?
Yeah, I don't like him.
No, I'm not a big fan either.
In fact, the last episode I was on was with Nilay, and he was telling me I was a douche.
No, he called me a racist.
Well, sometimes even a broken clock is right twice a day.
By the way, The Verge, well known amongst developers, if you want to test out a system with as many tracking systems and ads as possible, everybody uses theverge.com.
That thing, there must be 500 trackers on that website.
It's unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
So he was talking to the CEO of IBM, Arvind Krishna.
Are you familiar with that?
Yeah, nobody knows who the CEO of IBM is anymore.
No, didn't it used to be the woman?
What happened to her?
She went away.
You know, you retire after you cash out.
So Arvind, you know, like all successful Silicon Valley companies, which IBM is far from, but I guess they brought him in, like, hey, if Google's got one of these Indian guys, we should get one of these Indian guys.
Bring in an Indian guy.
Microsoft's got an Indian guy.
Bring in an Indian guy.
So they brought in Arvin.
And here was his two-part discussion about artificial intelligence.
Now they'll talk about AGI, which of course is, you know, they've muddied the waters.
It used to mean Artificial general intelligence, meaning it's actually smart or can think somehow and is not just a computer, you know, picking up language and hashing it out for you.
And that's now kind of become artificial generative intelligence, meaning it generates memes and stuff.
But here he is on the expense on the numbers.
He's a numbers guy.
He's IBM.
He's a numbers guy.
And here he is.
Do you think there's an enterprise ROI that would justify the spend we have today?
Because I look at it and I say, absent AGI, this spend might not be worth it.
At today's costs.
So let's just ground in that because anything in the future is speculative.
It takes about $80 billion to fill up a one gigawatt data center.
Okay, that's today's number.
So if you are going to commit 20 to 30 gigawatts, that's one company.
That's 1.5 trillion of capex.
And to the point we just made, you got to use it all in five years because at that point you got to throw it away and refill it, right?
Then if I look at the total, these things, the total commits in the world on this space of chasing AGI, seem to you like 100 gigawatts at these announcements.
That's 8 trillion of capex.
There's no way you're going to go get a return on that, is my view, because 8 trillion of capex means you need roughly 800 billion of profit just to pay for the interest.
I love this guy with his numbers.
8 trillion of expense to build what they're talking about.
Yeah, and what he left out, at least according to my son, is the five-year turnaround is actually only two to two and a half years.
You mean the chips to be renewed?
Yeah, the whole thing fails in two and a half years and it breaks everybody.
Wow.
And that's based on what?
It fails or it just is updated.
This is just apparently the rate of improvement, chip improvement plus the failure rate of these devices.
Oh, they actually failed.
They fail.
Two and a half years, maybe.
They just burn out.
Full load.
They just burn out.
They crap out.
They go on the fritz.
They glitch.
Fritz.
Now, Nili actually said something funny here, which is what it starts off with.
Have you told Sam?
Because he seems to think he can get both the capex and the company.
That's a belief.
It's a belief that one company is going to be the only company that gets the entire market.
I think it's fine.
I mean, like, they're chasing it.
Some people will make money.
Some people will lose money.
And all the infra being built will be useful if it goes away.
But if they make it, then they are the sole surviving company.
I am not convinced, or rather, I give it really low odds, like we're talking 0% to 1%, that the current set of known technologies gets us to AGI.
That's my bigger gap.
I think that this current set is great.
I think it's incredibly useful for the enterprise.
I think it's going to unlock trillions of dollars of productivity in the enterprise.
That said, I think AGI will require more technologies than the current LLM path.
I think it'll require fusing knowledge with LLMs.
And we have words.
I'm not sure that's the only way to create knowledge.
People talk about neuro-symbolic AI.
But I think if I just say knowledge in a broader sense, hard knowledge that people have spent thousands of years discovering, if we figure out a way to fuse knowledge with LLMs, maybe.
Yeah.
It doesn't sound very optimistic.
One of our producers sent me a note, and I guess he has some connection to NVIDIA.
And he says that my discussion based on, again, my son's connections with NVIDIA since he worked there, was that they've studied this and they can't find any real productivity gains from AI.
And this guy said, yeah, that's what we're turning up to.
Yeah, no, there's none.
There's no productivity gains.
I try all the time.
Yeah, I've built stuff with it.
But it always the same thing.
Just say, like, so I was building a slide deck, and I was surprised because Gemini actually created slides.
I'm like, well, you know, I just wanted an outline or something.
And I got slides with pictures.
I'm like, this is amazing.
And then I say, this is all good, except slide number seven.
Please replace that person with the middle-aged white woman looking very distressed.
And it subsequently deleted all the pictures and changed the words of everything.
And you go back, try it again.
And it cannot iterate.
It's incapable of doing it.
I think that's the same with the artwork.
And I know that Darren, he must try prompts over and over because you can't say, change what you just did.
No, you got to just change your whole prompt.
No, you got to nail it.
And then hope for the best.
You can't nail it.
There's no consistency.
Darren nails it a lot.
Yeah, well, Darren, Darren is an amazing man.
So on the AI tip, I was listening to Joe Rogan.
He even did a Broadway tune for us in today's end of show mix.
Which is dynamite.
It sounds like a Broadway tune.
It does.
It's for the No Agenda the Musical soon to take over all of Broadway.
Yeah, pack them in.
So Joe Rogan was being interviewed.
It doesn't happen often, but he does them from time to time.
And Joe, of course, is good friends with Elon.
So he believes, I think Joe really believes in AI, but he's also been going to church and he's been exploring Jesus and his faith, which he's talked about quite openly.
And this is the frightening conclusion and result of those two things.
So if you're going to get the most brilliant, loving, powerful person that gives us advice and can show us how to live to be in sync with God, who better than artificial intelligence to do that?
Wow.
If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was a physical person in the past, you don't think that he could return as artificial intelligence?
Oh my God.
Artificial intelligence could absolutely return as Jesus.
Not just return as Jesus, but return as Jesus with all the powers of Jesus.
Like all the magic tricks, all the ability to bring people back from the dead, walk on water, levitation.
Okay, this is a lot of things here.
Forbidden, the Colossus, Colossus Forbin project.
But no, he actually says something different, which I'm only hearing this now.
Listen to what I thought he was saying.
If Jesus would come back, he could come back as artificial intelligence.
He actually says this.
Who better than artificial intelligence to do that?
Wow.
If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was a physical person in the past, you don't think that he could return as artificial intelligence?
And it kind of messes it up there.
Then he talks about some magic tricks.
So the only thing I would say is if God could talk to Balaam through a donkey, yeah, it's possible.
But I wouldn't bet on it and I'd be very careful with people thinking they discovered Jesus through their AI.
Antichrist.
Wait.
Apparently, is Perplexity sponsoring Joe's show?
I think I just saw that come by.
I didn't know this.
It's true.
I don't think they sponsor anything.
Well, I think I just saw that pass by in the troll room.
And the trolls have been on point today, so it may be right.
Anyway, I got to talk to Joe.
Oh, man.
Boy, oh, boy.
I see you got the same story as I did about Australia and the kids.
Well, they're banned.
My story.
Well, yes, but I thought mine had a kicker.
Okay.
I don't know if yours does.
No, I'll play yours and if it doesn't kick the way mine does.
The ban comes into place on December 10.
And it'll force children under 16.
Stop it.
They put a ban in place on all social media in Australia.
No.
No.
Well, wait, let me finish.
And so now they're going to require age verification and all this stuff.
The ban is 16 and under.
That's the ban.
Yeah, it's a ban.
It's a ban on all social media.
It's a ban.
It's 16 years and under.
Yeah.
It's an important distinction.
You said a ban on all social media.
Yeah, well, you never let me finish.
You interrupted me with a no-no-no.
So, but there's a ban on social media with an age limit.
But there's a kicker.
Okay.
The ban comes into place on December 10 and it will force children under 16 off Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, everything.
TikTok, X, Threads, Reddit, Twitch, Tik, even YouTube.
Santa 16s won't be able to be on YouTube, but there is a social media site they can still use.
The toxic leftist lunatic asylum called Blue Sky is not covered under the ban, Adam.
And even Dr. Nick Coatesworth, hardly a right-wing reactionary, is asking why.
I mean, this just is incredible that this is being allowed to happen, that the coalition, together with Labor, and this was a coalition policy, this was what APEDA does.
Exactly, exactly.
Sort of genius ideas, but they can't see the unintended consequences of limiting people's access to information.
Yeah, well, obviously, Blue Sky is very pro-left generally.
So that just shows that this is a political, you know, the rationale behind this is actually political.
In part, they don't like children getting access to certain ideas.
I don't think it's about images so much because I think I was reading recently, they can still get to various pornographic websites.
Well, let me say this about that.
Blue Sky, you could argue that it's on equal footing with Mastodon.
The Betaverse!
Yes, which also is not banned.
Wow.
Holy crap.
Christina is texting me.
She says, oh, dad, you have no idea what everybody just received in the mail.
I'm going to try and translate this on the fly.
My newsletter?
It's an official government brochure.
It has a family on the front.
It's drawn with a dog looking kind of sad and a kid putting cans into a box.
And it says, save me in a safe place.
Be prepared for an emergency situation.
And it says, I'm looking at you need to prepare for an emergency that could last up to 72 hours because the electricity could go out.
What would you do if the electricity went out for 72 hours?
Isn't this interesting?
This happens right when they cancel all the Russian gas contracts.
And this is crazy.
What will you do, Danielle?
And get your go bag.
Oh, yeah, go bag in here.
Oh, yeah.
What do you need?
You need food, hygiene.
They got some candles here, something to keep warm, flashlight.
Candles.
They have candles.
You need candles, toothbrush, a radio with batteries.
Good luck.
Wow.
Wow.
This is nuts.
I got to get her out of there.
I've got to.
I don't think it was because of the Russian gas.
It's because it's the Jews who are retaliating against them being cut out of the Eurovision songkit contest.
It's the Jews, man.
It's the Jews.
I think you're right.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Spot on.
Well, in America, we're not worried about things like that.
We don't have young people worrying about 72 hours without electricity.
No, we have things that they need to worry about, like, did I lose my prop bet?
In tonight's I in America, we're looking at a form of online betting that's rapidly growing in popularity.
That's market trading with predictions where you can invest in the outcome of real-world events.
Joel Holsinger just quit his day job to bet on anything.
Like if Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell will say the word pardon in a press conference.
We're thinking was, wait, pardon me.
Just let's go.
Let's go.
That's part of the evil.
I streamed and watched the speech live.
Powell coughed and said, pardon me.
And, you know, I made $500.
From his computer, the 26-year-old says he makes about $3,000 a week trading on the prediction market, Kelchie.
Kelchie lets you legally trade on anything, anywhere in the U.S. Thanks to companies like Kelchie, Polymarket, and Predict It.
Betting on anything from elections to Taylor Swift has never been easier.
Damn, I had no idea it was like this.
Oh, yeah.
And some of the brokerage companies like Interactive, for example, has opened up a system that does this.
Interactive brokers.
You can bet on whether the Prime I don't know if they have the prop bets like that, because that's pretty specific, but they have the bets.
You bet on whether the interest rates next week's meeting is going to be dropped 0.25 or not.
It's like you bet a dollar, you win 10 cents if you think it's going to be dropped because everyone thinks 10 is 1 to 10 for that particular bet.
Yeah, okay.
Huh.
I got to get it.
But if it doesn't get dropped, you bet one, I think you'd make like a buck fifty or on top of the one.
So you'd get some $2 plus $2 plus something.
No, this is ridiculous.
This is gambling.
I remember when I was in college, there was this group of inveterate gamblers who had, they just lived together.
They were betting on everything.
We went out with a group of them.
These guys, they were degenerates.
And it was like you go in their place, they had a sign over the fireplace that says, God is unemployed.
That was the theme of the place.
And one guy had to get, I swear, one guy had to get his jacket.
And while they were waiting for him to come back with his jacket, the two guys are flipping quarters to see who heads said.
Okay, here's your core.
And they couldn't, they were just gambling.
They're horrible.
It's just a terrible thing to be addicted to.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
And in fact, this encouraged should be illegal.
Well, they have the CEO on the show.
What is a prediction market?
So a prediction market is like the stock market.
But instead of buying and selling companies, you're buying yes and no on whether something is going to happen or not.
Tarek Mansoor and Luana Lopez-Lara are the co-founders of Kelchie.
People can make money on what they know.
Actually monetize their knowledge, monetize their hobby.
Kelchie's users trade an average of a billion dollars a week, banking heavily on sports.
You can bet on things that a traditional sports book would offer you.
Which is a concern for author Jonathan Cohen, who has chronicled the rise of sports betting in the U.S.
So you think this is just gambling?
But Kelchie is not regulated like gambling, and several states have sued, alleging the platform offers unlawful sports wagering.
And unlike most sports betting sites, users can also bet on games in other financial apps, which hold investments like retirement accounts.
In the same app that you use to manage your 401k or your stock portfolio, you can like bet on the Jets game.
Creating more risk that some betters could drain those savings.
That friction is gone.
You can gamble on sports and you can gamble away like your life savings.
And while federal regulations on prediction markets are rapidly evolving, both Kelchie and its main competitor, Polymarket, have brought on a new strategic advisor, the president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr.
Does he come to meetings?
How much do you pay him?
What's his role?
I mean, this is the son of the president.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, we have a lot of advisors, and whether it's our investors, whether it's people that we trust and respect.
He's not just any advisor.
He has a direct line to the White House.
We have a lot of advisors.
While Kelchie, CEO, did not answer that question.
One thing is clear: Kelchie believes the popularity of online betting is just kicking off.
Well, here's what I learned: we need to become advisors.
And the Curry Dvorak advisory group is ready to advise you in exchange for shares and cash on anything you've got going.
And we're good.
Yeah, people should be calling us tomorrow.
I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do this.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
No agenda.
And we still have some producers to thank.
Over $50 and under $200.
And Adam's going to run through them as we listen.
We're going to listen.
Well, we're speaking, and I'm speaking, and you should be listening.
There you go.
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This must be with fees $105.35.
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I must know Julie.
She's in Fredericksburg, Texas.
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Well, I don't, I know a lot of Julie's.
I don't know everybody's last name.
I'm horrible at names.
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See you at the meeting.
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Oh, I see what you did, 7654.
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Ooh, palindrome.
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Oviedo, Florida.
Pete Lachance.
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Thank you for all you do.
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And Christopher Burke from St. Paul, Minnesota.
Did you get Brian Furley?
Yes, I did.
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Thanks for checking.
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He does have a note.
He says, I use Outlook and got the first send of the newsletter on December 3rd, as well as the anomaly follow-up email later that evening.
I have not received a newsletter.
I've never not received a newsletter using Outlook.com.
Well, that's good info.
Not everyone can say that.
So that's just, it's another one of those things.
Plenty of Outlook people didn't get it.
Tony Lang, Castle Pines, Colorado, 50.
These are all the 50s.
Scott McCarty from Lodi, California.
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Right down the road, I see you, Paul.
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Chris Connacher in Anchorage, Alaska.
John Fitzpatrick in Herber Springs, Arizona.
Ichi Kitagawa, San Francisco, California, where they're suing the big food.
Harry Klan in Alito, Texas.
Man, Texas showing up for us.
Walker Phillips in San Rafael, California.
And Leslie Walker to wind out our 50s from Roseburg, Auburn, Oregon.
And she says, I love the show.
We do not mention anyone under $50 for reasons of anonymity, but I see you $49.99s, and I get it.
Thank you very much.
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And this is a rare moment.
I get to say noagendadonations.com, but I don't get to play the birthday jingle because no one was born on December 4th.
Not a single person.
It was a dip in the birthing schedule.
Has this ever happened?
Solar flare.
So instead.
Yes, instead, we will talk about the meetups that are coming up.
Today, we have the 805 rooftop meetup at 4 o'clock that specific time.
Goleta, California, Dame Beth.
Yes, that is today.
It's correct.
She sent me a note.
I made a mistake and her heart dropped.
Also, today, the pre-St.
Oh, yes.
The pre-St. Nicholas Day or Thanksgiving part deux in Raleigh, North Carolina, Saints and Scholars.
Yes, this is the evening when all the little Dutch children put their wooden shoes outside the door and hope that St. Nicholas will come and put some candy in it and that the Black Pete, or these days we call them the Rainbow Pete's, won't come along and stick them in the bag and take them back to Spain on the steamboat.
It's a weird country.
Tomorrow, Pensacola, Florida, the Pensacola Fun meetup, one o'clock at Coastal County Brewery in Pensacola, Florida.
On Saturday, the No Agenda Central Ohio meetup.
That is at 5.30 at Dempsey's in Columbus.
And to wind it out on our next show day, I must be high, number 17.
That's at McSorley's wonderful saloon and grill in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Just a few of the many meetups that you can find at NoAgendametups.com.
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And Mimi, of course, for managing that process as well.
Go to Noagendameetups.com.
Find a meetup.
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First responders, they're here at these meetups.
If you can't find one, start one yourself.
Put it over there at noagendameetups.com.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You to be where you want me, trigger to hell aim.
You to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
And for those of you who heard the call and went, you know, I should probably stick around past those donation segments because there's a lot of fun stuff that happens.
And sound effects.
There's all kinds of groovy stuff.
This is where we select our end of show ISOs, which is just kind of a fun thing we do.
And I get real people and John practices his AI prompting, which he's doing on the free tier of 11 labs, which, yeah, it's always the same guy with whatever.
No, I got a new person.
Whatever Marty came up with.
Oh, John.
Oh, Marty doesn't write these.
Here's mine too.
I've lost faith in Wall Street.
That's no good.
How about this one?
They have large wieners.
Yeah, that's a good one.
They have large wieners.
That's my end of show ISO idea.
Kind of like the second one.
Yes, they have large wieners.
Play it enough.
Okay, let's go.
I have two with a new person.
Yeah, I never used this voice before.
Okay.
Sizzled.
That show sizzled.
That would be a good combo with large wieners.
That show sizzled.
They have large wieners.
Let's hear your other one just in case.
It is too long.
Good show, but too long.
No, I think we have a winner here.
I think.
That show sizzled.
They have large wieners.
Yeah, baby.
That's who we're going with.
Hey, but first, it's time for John's tip of the day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just the chip with JCD.
And sometimes Adam.
This is an obscure tip for you connoisseurs of champagne.
A lot of people don't know this.
Oh, I love champagne.
I love the bubbly, man.
I love the bubbly.
On every bottle of champagne, there's a code, two-letter code that tells you what kind of champagne it really is.
Oh.
And it appears usually at the very bottom of the label, and it's in like two-point type.
And it consists of two letters, usually a number and then some, you know, name, anything to follow that.
But these two letters are the important part.
And these two letters are, for example, there's a bunch of them.
I think there's eight different ones that are possible.
There's only two that are two or three that are important to know.
If it says, because everyone's talking about it, maybe this is the tip of the day, really, is grower champagne.
Oh.
Grower champagne is always touted as, it's the best.
Grower champagne is a champagne made by the grower who grew the grapes makes the wine.
Yes.
This is not usual.
Most champagnes are made by a large manufacturing company like Bollinger, and they buy, they have these contracts with all these growers, and they get all the champagne grapes in.
They have a superstar winemaker, and they make a really good product.
It should always cost more for that wine than it does for the grower's champagne.
Grower's champagne should be cheaper.
Oh, I always thought the grower's champagne was more exclusive.
It's more exclusive in smaller quantities, but it should be cheaper.
And anyone who's marking the and but some of these guys, these importers will mark it up.
But grower champagne is generally cheaper and should be.
And here's how you can tell you, but the little two letters at the bottom of the champagne bottle, you'll see, you'll see, it's either going to say NM or RM.
This is two letters.
And the NM means the Gaussian Manipulante.
That means the guy who bought the grapes and made the wine.
RM is a Ricultant Manipulante, and that's the guy who harvested Ricultante.
That means the harvester.
So he grew the grapes.
So you look for RM.
You see RM at the bottom.
That means it's a grower's champagne, which is everyone touts.
Oh, grower's champagne.
Well, now I'm comfortable.
It's hard to be as good as Bollinger, but some of them are cheap.
They have different flavor.
They're just slightly, they're more authentic.
Let's put it that way.
Okay.
So now.
I have a question.
So just to read it.
RM is the grower champagne.
Right?
Ricultante manipulant.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Romeo Mike.
Romeo Mike.
So what I'd like to do is say, you know, this has RM on it.
This is a grower champagne.
Yeah, you could do that.
This is the source of the Bollinger.
This is right from the guy's hand.
No, Bollinger is never going to be a grower's champagne.
Bollinger is a significant.
I said this is the source.
Oh, yeah, you could say that.
This is the source.
The guy's wife stomped the grapes with his bare feet.
You're going to love this champagne.
You could do that.
Yeah, if you were a soulmier and you wanted to bullshit somebody.
I'm a BS.
I'm a bullshit.
Now, the other, just for the record, there's six other designations.
And one, if it contains the letter C, there's CM and RC.
C means it's a co-op wine.
Oh, it's like Cheap Jack.
It's like Andre's.
No, see, the thing is about Corpoines in France, they're usually really good.
They have a really good one.
This unlike co-op stuff here in the United States.
The French are very dedicated to this communist country.
Oh, there you go.
And they love the co-op stuff.
And so they make a co-op wine with different labels on it.
And they put, you know, it could be anybody's product.
So they look for the co-op wines.
Those are usually really cheap.
And then there's one you should look for, which is a like if you bought a Costco says Costco Kirkland champagne, it'd probably have the letters MA, which means it's just a marketing.
And we should be boosting marketing.
It's not there or anything.
Who knows what it is?
They just put their label on it.
It's just white label, white label.
Yeah, and it means market the sales company, mark the echeture.
That's it.
The sales guy.
So it's a sales product.
It says champagne marketed by a third party.
Now, you look up champagne codes in Google and you'll get the whole list and you can see what you're doing.
So you can have some knowledge.
This is the only area in France that does this little code and it's very valuable.
And can you just tell us what code you think is the best?
Well, I like the grower champagnes.
So I would go with the RM because it's cheaper, generally cheaper.
I mean, you can get the superstar products are usually very expensive, but RM should be cheaper.
They should be.
I've seen them as cheap.
You can get a $30 champagne.
With RM, if you go to the right event or the camera, I would try to say this is a very valuable tip for those of you who stayed all the way through the program.
Congratulations, you have been informed.
Get informed at tipoftheday.net.
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I love those tips, John.
Are you going to do the knife soon?
People want the knife.
Knife's coming.
The knife comes.
The knives are harder than you think.
No, but I'm ready.
I'm ready to buy.
I want a good knife.
Okay, next tip of the day will be the knife.
All right, knife is coming.
What is coming next on your No Agenda stream is a walk through the mind.
I don't even know this show.
A walk through the mind.
Okay, I'll stay and listen.
And end of show mixes from MVP, B-Dubs, and the one and only Baron Darineau of the Rock and Roll.
So stay tuned for that, everybody.
It's going to be fantastic.
And of course, we will return on Sunday to bring you more of your media deconstruction, your No Agenda show in its 19th year.
Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, where Julie is listening, apparently.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
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You cheap faster.
It's a media deconstruction that we need to function.
There's a media deconstruction that we need to function.
There's the media deconstruction that we need to function.
