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This is your award-winning Give On Nation Media Assassination episode 1821.
This is no agenda.
We are not stupid.
And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here at FEMA Region number six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Here from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're expecting the blue wave of doom.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.
Yeah, yeah, because we know that all their ops are working really well.
The blue wave of doom.
Is that a Democrat thing?
Well, Blue Wave is not the Doom part.
I added that.
The way I would see it is the Blue Wave would be doom.
Doom, I tell you.
Doom.
Doom.
Hey, how was your Thanksgiving?
How was your Thanksgiving?
It's good.
Okay, did you actually celebrate yet?
Yeah, no, we ate, everyone's eating their foods.
I got a nice small nine-pound bird.
Uh-huh.
Smoked it in the master built.
Master Built?
Yeah, the smoker.
It's one of the tips of the day.
Oh, your master built?
Well, you should have given that before Thanksgiving.
I'm sorry?
No, it was a tip of the day for me.
No, because today you're going to do a knife, right?
Tell me you're going to do a knife.
No, the knife's not.
I'm not ready for the knife.
It's a tease.
We got the knife is coming.
The knife is coming.
Yes, the knife is coming.
Very good.
Very good.
And it was a small bird and it was a heritage.
It was brined and it didn't taste like turkey.
What did it do?
It tastes like pheasant.
It tastes like pheasant.
Pheasant.
That's what good turkey tastes like.
Which I hear pheasant tastes a lot like peacock.
I don't know.
I've never had peacock.
Curious.
Peacock is good.
Well, Black Friday, it's not what it used to be.
We used to be fighting and rioting over boxes filled with large screen TV sets.
My, how things have changed.
Black Friday promotion turned sour as shoppers waited hours for the cost mac and cheese, Mac Friday, 65 inch box, only to see it vanish within seconds.
The TV size deal packed, 65 boxes for just 1937.
But most fans woke up disappointed with carts emptied and supply gone before checkout.
Chaos and anger erupted online.
Some call it a clever marketing stunt, others pure frustration.
Did you see this?
I'm completely unfamiliar with this one, so it's news to me.
Oh so, it was a 65 inch box, kind of like what your TV would come in, filled with mac and cheese okay, and people were fighting over it.
Because that's the new thing, we don't fight.
We used to fight over time and I totally believe this happened.
Hey, while we're on the topic, who will be the first man?
You are really cutting through the noise guy?
Are your speakers louder today than normal?
I'm gonna turn them down, whatever.
Yeah, a little bit.
Who will be?
Oh man, this just is crazy.
It's way down.
I can barely hear you.
Let me see.
Am I doing the right one?
Hold on yeah oh, it's weird.
Um oh, I'll cut all that out, don't worry.
Who's the goodness?
Gracious John, it's like I keep cutting through the noise gate.
uh I can't turn you down much more I can barely hear you myself I don't know how it's getting through really yeah I don't understand either anyway maybe my mic's going bad who will be the first to have the secret Santa that pays off everybody's layaway this year Oh, I forgot about that story.
No, it happens every year.
No, it does.
It's a standard.
Every year we have the bogus story, and it turns up in every local news station, some guy.
And you first have the crying, weeping shopper outside the store who just discovered that her bills were paid from the local real estate developer.
Yeah, that's it.
It used to be a national thing.
It's really moved more towards a local, the local, and you're right.
It's always the local real estate person who, oh, yeah, someone paid it off.
Although sometimes it's actual secret, Santa.
And then it's just a promotion for Walmart.
It has to be a promotion.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot that part of the formula.
Of course.
Yes.
It always happens at Walmart.
So therefore, you should go there to shop because you just might get it for free.
Hello.
That's the way to go.
Of course.
Of course.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, we love that.
And I'm just stunned that no other retailer has figured this out.
Well, it hasn't happened yet.
Oh, it will.
I've got all my filters.
We did have an op from the, what did you call it? The blue wave of doom.
Yeah.
They pulled.
The blue wave of doom.
The blue wave of doom pulled an op.
I don't think it worked very well.
The op is Wabbit.
Wabbit.
Acronym for we ain't buying it.
So this time of year, right after Thanksgiving, is usually a layup for big retail companies.
But this year has not been business as usual.
Activists are upset that corporations are not speaking out against policies promoted by the Trump administration.
And so now they want their money to talk, like the No Kinks protest or the Target Fast.
The branding for this pressure campaign is we ain't buying it.
Organizers want you to pull back from spending money at Target and Home Depot and Amazon.
Now, in a press release, they say the companies have caved to Donald Trump's bigoted and anti-democratic attacks on our communities and our values from cravenly abandoning their commitments to diversity, equity, and inclusion to enabling the terrorizing of our communities.
Corporate collaboration must stop.
Now, the boycott puts another bullseye on Target.
A retailer has been open about seeing their bottom line be impacted by this previous boycott after dropping DEI initiatives.
But is the holiday timing a game changer?
Natasha Brown is co-founder of Black Voters Matter.
That's one of the groups leading this We Ain't Buying It effort.
Okay, hold on for a second.
Black Voters Matter.
Go to their website, hit the donate button.
Acts Blue.
Act Blue.
Acts Blue.
So this is just another political action stunt caged in like, we ain't buying it.
And the reason why?
Well, we hate Trump.
Latasha, welcome back to the show.
Let me start here.
So we know about the reason behind the Target focus.
Tell me about the-stop.
Where'd you get this clip?
CNN.
What did you think?
I don't know.
I was wondering.
It sounded like the Black News Network.
You're also focusing on Home Depot.
There is no Black News Network.
Yeah, there is.
I listen to it all the time.
I have it local.
It's fantastic, actually.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it's really good.
It's better than the typical news around that you get from the white news networks.
About the reason, so this is not CNN.
It's the white news network.
Okay, we'll keep it like that for now on.
behind the target focus tell me about why you're also focusing on home depot and amazon well now remember this is for people to we ain't buying it we ain't buying it I might have to get a two by four.
No, you can't buy it.
You can't buy it because of Trump.
You know, when we look at Home Depot, it's interesting.
Home Depot has actually built their business based on home improvement and construction.
And they've built their business on the backs, quite frankly, of immigrant labor, an industry that depends on immigrant labor.
But what we've seen is they've actually been colluding.
Really?
They built their business on the backs of immigrant labor?
Really?
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, obviously.
On immigrant labor.
But what we've seen is they've actually been colluding with ICE to provide information to surveillance.
One of the groups.
Stop the clip.
So, in other words, before this finishes, they built their whole business around immigrant labor, but to shoot themselves in the head, they decided to collude with ICE to get rid of the immigrant labor so they, because they built it around immigrant labor, can go broke.
Is that the logic here?
And go home.
I think they all just want to go home and not buy it.
What we've seen is they've actually been colluding with ICE to provide information to surveillance, a part of the coalition that two of the workers that were in the store that they called that ICE actually came in their store and attacked while they were in there.
And so Home Depot has also been capitulating.
They have aligned themselves with this administration that is creating bringing harm on the very people who have helped to build this business.
Well, then they're pretty stupid.
Your point is well made, John C. Dvorak.
Let's see if the other two examples, if you can find something similar.
And Amazon, what we see is Amazon is also, they've been supporting just for a tax break.
They've been supporting this administration, providing a million dollars for the inauguration, you know, so that they can get tax benefits at our expense.
And what we're saying is that we expect corporations to be accountable.
Wait a minute.
So this is about tax breaks.
That doesn't come from the administration.
That comes from your city.
Because it doesn't come from Donald Trump.
If you open up in New York or in Atlanta or wherever you want to, New Jersey, wherever you want to open up, that's a city or a state tax break, not a federal tax break.
Am I wrong?
Prove me wrong.
She's unclear.
Accountable to the customers.
You can't align yourself with an administration that does not necessarily hurting and harming our communities.
We won't buy it.
We ain't buying it.
Now, before we get to some of the goals of this protest, this boycott, vote Democrat.
Walmart rolled back their DEI.
There have been ICE missions and operations of Lowe's locations.
Why these two and not the others?
Walmart.
You know, part of what we're asking people, and I think what you're going to see across the board this weekend, what you're going to see across the board is that many of those companies.
It doesn't sound like there's a boycott on Walmart, which of course makes sense because Walmart is all in with these people.
So I think she's trying to deflect here, unless I'm misunderstanding.
Companies, they're going to see some, they're going to see their sales be down.
What we wanted to do is to send a message with these three companies.
One, it's measurable.
They're focused.
We're focused on that.
But we're saying we ain't buying it.
We're not standing with any company, right?
These three are just the beginning.
They're not the end.
Those other companies as well, we're asking people, we've been asking people to hold their money, to not support and shop with companies that do not align with the values that we believe that supports our communities, including these other companies.
These three companies just happen to be the companies that we decided that because of what was happening, because we're seeing the egregious nature, that we would focus on those three companies.
Okay.
So this is their operation.
I don't think it worked.
Oh, wait.
Well, I'll give you the number.
You have the number.
U.S. shoppers spend a record $11.8 billion, up 9.1.
This is online alone.
From 20 to any almost 10% from 2020.
Almost.
Yeah.
Wow.
How much up?
How many percent?
Almost 10, 9.1.
Wow.
But meanwhile, the activists were definitely.
And by the way, one more thing.
I thought this was called Black Out or Black Something.
I think they hijacked it.
They hijacked it.
They had a consultant look at it.
They said, blackouts, no good.
How about we ain't buying it?
Yeah, that's great.
Here's 10 grand.
I think that's what happened.
Yeah.
Here is one of their activists who decided to take another angle at we ain't buying it and went to TikTok.
Buying stuff is not a hobby.
Buying stuff is not a hobby.
If your sense of self is built upon your packages from Amazon, and that's all you have going on, then that is sad.
Target runs are not a hobby.
Starbucks cups are not a hobby.
You could stock your drawers with a million creams or buy NFTs of some old ass memes, but you don't have goals and you don't have dreams.
And that is bad.
You could take up Taekwondo.
You could learn to knit.
You could write a book, but no, you'd rather buy some plastic shit.
Brands want you to be a loser, but you are more than a consumer.
So go outside and touch some grass.
Put your music on and shake your ass.
Your human soul and bank account will both be glad.
Yeah.
And it worked.
Kind of.
Wow, what a song.
Yeah.
Hey, at least it wasn't AI.
It was a real song.
You don't know that.
No, I'm pretty sure.
She was playing the ukulele.
I was impressed.
I was very impressed.
Oh, yeah.
This is like a yuke.
Yeah, like a yuke.
So we did have a couple of, of course, we're on the ball here.
We are here for you as a public service.
There was a little bit of a frenzy with the Airbus issue.
Yeah, I have a clip.
I have a clip.
I'm happy to play your clip.
What's your clip?
I don't know.
Probably something either.
Airbus 320.
Well, I'll play the Airbus 320 issue.
That could be the clip.
Yep.
On the year's busiest travel weekend, the FAA has ordered airlines to update software in a widely used aircraft by midnight tonight.
Airbus issued a software fix for about 6,000 of its A320 family of jets after an analysis found that solar radiation bursts may corrupt key data needed for flight controls.
They say that's likely why a jet blue flight suddenly lost altitude last month, sending more than a dozen people to hospitals.
American, Delta, and United all say they expect the fix to be done quickly and with minimal disruption.
Yeah, this was a bigger disruption over in Europe.
It's the best-selling aircraft used by commercial airlines across the world.
Airbus has ordered immediate repairs to 6,000 of its A320s, more than half of its global fleet, due to a flight control software issue.
For safety reasons, the planes cannot fly until repaired.
The flight system in question sends commands from the pilot's side stick to elevators at the rear.
It's manufactured by the French company TELIS, which insists it's not responsible for the problem.
The incident involved a flight from Cancun to Newark on the 30th of October.
Several passengers were hurt after a sharp loss of altitude, forcing the pilots to make an emergency landing in Florida.
After analysis, Airbus claims that intense solar radiation may have been the culprits.
To talk about solar storms, which are particles emitted by explosions on the sun's surface that project a cloud of particles and can reach earth in about 20 hours.
But if this happens with significant intensity it can disrupt computers and therefore the flight control links to the computer give you bad information.
Repairs can be completed within a few hours for each plane, but disruptions will vary in length depending on the company.
So, solar huh x flares cable that you remember a couple of weeks ago, when that solar flare hit yes uh, and that's the day that my my uh, I told you this.
I said that the, for some reason, the uh, the knock at all confused.
No, it was the I, the uh, clean feed itself.
I couldn't.
It came with these weird messages.
I couldn't get on it and I mentioned this on the show and you thought that was, I said, never happened before.
And then I noticed on that same day, over that period of time, there's people driving weird, and me, me noticed it and so did Jay.
People were, what do you mean?
What do you define driving weird?
Just like they're just, it's like they're shorted out.
They're driving, just you know, down the middle of the street.
Those aren't people, just a lot of weird driving.
Those aren't people, that's uh, that's the drones, that's the bot people.
Well, whatever was driving, they were doing a poor job of it.
So but I think the uh, I think that solar flares that did something and I I guess it screwed up these airplanes because hit some well, something in there.
At first i'm like this sounds like a bull crap story.
It does sound like a bullcrap story, so I look into it and uh, it turns out that.
So there's a lot of, a lot of systems obviously it's all fly-by-wire and there's actually uh, an ecc chip that's mounted onto uh, one of the redundant controller systems.
Are you familiar with ecc memory?
No uh, is that uh?
No, i'm not well, I mean explain it.
Maybe I am well i'm, i'm.
I'm only going to read from the definitions.
I looked up a specialized type of computer memory ram specifically designed to detect and correct the most common types of internal data, correction of call, often called soft errors.
Uh, ecc memory works by using an extra chip on the memory module that stores error correction codes, hence ecc, also known as parity bits when data is written to the memory.
Yes, they used to have this on memory book.
Cores used to have that extra chip.
Yeah, back in the day when it was cracked, they stopped doing it.
So what they're cost it costs an extra nickel, forget it.
So what they're claiming is that the solar flares can actually flip a bit in the chip.
You know, this is what I was thinking.
I'm not that particular exact issue, but I was thinking that the whole thing was a shielding problem.
Well, you would think, if you had this, if you had these mod, these modules shielded properly this you, just you'd, be good to go.
I, I agree with you, and what's even Interesting to me is that this was not, you know, you know what the change was?
It was actually downgrading, rolling back an update.
Like, come on, you can't tell me that some update and they're not taking responsibility for it.
That's a good point.
What you're saying.
Well, it's possible.
I can see it.
It's possible that the old code wouldn't have been.
If that bit was flipped, it wouldn't make any difference.
Yeah.
Well, and so you can't just say, oh, it's solar flash.
No, it's your crappy software.
Well, yeah, that's for sure.
Come on.
If you're rolling back, it's not like it was a hardware upgrade.
Like, oh, we have to do something.
Yeah, it is no screw about the chip.
So somebody.
Although you could shield it.
I would think shielding would be the, well, maybe the, I mean, who knows?
Who knows with this stuff?
Could just be an attack from Boeing for all we know.
Ah, look at these guys.
Let's screw them up.
I had no idea until this report came out that the 320 was the number one airplane in the world.
I didn't know that they.
I also don't know if that's true.
Well, every report said it.
Well, that's an interesting question.
It's the most popular passenger plane in the world, period, according to everybody.
Well, it's possible.
I mean, I'd say the 737 rivals.
That's what I was thinking.
737 would, you know, but that's not what they kept reporting and nobody was saying no.
Well, but you know, no one looks into these things anymore.
They're not even calling it a glitch often, just like, hey, it's just what happens, you know.
And Friday, which is kind of the same on the stock markets or specifically the future markets, another centralization problem.
We continue to follow the outage at the CME that has halted trading in stock index futures and other contracts.
That was caused by a cooling issue at the CMA's data center.
However, services are gradually being restored and treasuries, commodities, and metals are said to be trading normally at this point.
You can kind of see the moves in the pound, the dollar, the euro.
Stock index futures are still halted, though.
We will keep you updated on when those might be restored.
But again, it's been hours at this point.
We are continuing to watch.
And we'll let you know as soon as those stock futures begin to trade properly as well.
I always wonder when you have an outage like that, Forex and Futures.
Like, what's going on in the background?
How can someone take advantage of that?
And it was a cool...
There are ways, I'm sure.
It's completely centralized in one data center and cooling brings it all down.
I mean, this is, you know, we're going to see more and more of this.
Thank God for podcasting being decentralized because we're just going to see more and more and more and more of this.
More things.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
AWS, Cloudflare, Azure.
There's only three or four big players.
So this is not good.
In this case, I have to say, I got a promotion from Elon Musk from his, what's his, what's his satellite thing called again?
I have it.
Starlink.
Starlink, yeah.
So for $5 a month in deactivated state, they're going to send me a Starlink mini, which I think is pretty cool.
Yeah, but what's don't you have Starlink already?
Yeah, but this is so, you know, you put this in your go bag.
So if it all for five bucks a month, you can have a little device in your go bag.
And so when you go, after when the grid goes down, you can get out of there and you can have the little thing and you can stay in touch.
Put it right next to my ammo where it belongs.
Yeah.
And what was it?
A jug of water or what's the things that we have in there?
Flashlight, flashlight.
Flashlight, a grinding flashlight.
The kind that has a grinder on the side.
Yeah, a grinder, or as we call it in the old country, a kneipkot.
Get one of those.
And you need a radio that you power by winding it.
Yeah, that's the thing like the flashlight.
It's pretty cool.
And it lasts for about five seconds.
Yeah.
So I got a lot.
A lot of go bag.
Actually, I got one more.
You know, I'm in an earthquake country, and you'd think I would need a go bag because, you know, if you have an, you know, I grabbed the go bag, which the go bag, there should be, we should probably have the no-agent.
No agenda go bag.
Yeah.
It has to have a couple of pairs of underwear for starters.
Some mac and chips.
Probably a change, a shirt.
It's got to be bigger than it's going to be more like a garment bag.
If you're going to go, you might as well bring a garment bag with you.
It's got a bunch of clothes in it.
You're nailing it.
This is a great promotion.
They're talking about a little bitty bag with a couple of items.
Screw that.
Go ahead.
Have a garment bag loaded in your gills with stuff.
Throw it in the car and get out of there.
A garment bag.
Yeah, it should be a garment bag.
No, it shouldn't be a garment bag.
We need a proper no-agenda go bag.
We should at least have the contents.
Wind up flashback.
It should be a no-agenda go bag in a theoretical.
It doesn't have to be theoretical.
No, no, no.
We'll throw in some gigawatt coffee because, you know, when you're on the go, you need some coffee.
We'll throw in a voucher for a resume for Linda Liu.
Yeah, because when you're on the go, you're going to need a job.
You ain't going to need a job, so you need a resume.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
It's perfect.
We got you covered, people.
No worries.
No worries at all.
So there's a lot of different things.
I mean, we have this DC shooter, which is part of a bigger op, but I think we should leave that for just a second.
Let's do Ukraine because there's some movement.
I have some Ukraine stuff that are good intro stuff.
You probably have some deeper analysis, I'm hoping.
We'll start with you.
I got three clips.
I got the Ukraine update.
Okay.
Let's hit that.
Russia carried out drone and missile strikes on Ukraine's capital overnight.
Authorities say two people were killed and at least seven were wounded.
The attacks come as the White House continues to make a new diplomatic push to end the conflict.
NPR's Charles Mainz reports from Moscow.
The Kremlin says the U.S. has now provided a document outlining the main parameters of its peace proposal, one amended with input from Ukraine and Europe after an earlier version was criticized as heavily tilted in Moscow's favor.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has suggested the plan could still be the basis of a settlement, but only if Ukraine is the one to make key concessions.
Among them, a demand to surrender territory claimed but not controlled by Russia after more than three years of fighting.
The topic is sure to come up when Ukrainian negotiators meet with White House envoy Steve Witkoff and other administration officials this weekend in Florida.
Witkoff then heads to Russia for talks with Putin in the coming days.
Yeah, what I find interesting is that everybody, every report around the world is they're meeting in Florida.
They're meeting in Florida.
Why don't they just say they're meeting at Mar-a-Lago?
I presume that's where the meeting's going to take place.
Ah, you're presuming.
They could be meeting at Disney World.
You don't know.
No.
Regarding, well, you looked that up.
Regarding the strikes on Kyiv, There was 10 hours of drones and missiles and they killed two.
I guess.
Wait, you're going to bomb a major city, a metropolitan city, and you're going to bomb it for 10 hours solid with missiles and drones and two people dead.
This makes no sense to me.
Well, they're not very effective.
All right.
Well, while you're looking up the question, can I just say that I don't know how old that report was.
Was that from Friday?
Yesterday.
Well, that's interesting because the Russian attack was a counterattack for the sea drones.
Do you know about the sea drones who were launched from Kyiv?
No.
Well, here, listen.
Now, the latest on the war in Ukraine, Ukraine's intelligence service releasing dramatic images showing its attack on two sanctioned Russian oil tankers off Turkey's coast.
ABC's Patrick Rievel is in Ukraine with the latest.
Russia overnight heavily bombed Kyiv once again with hundreds of drones and missiles.
But Ukraine also hitting back in a new way.
Its SBU intelligence service today releasing dramatic video showing sea drones hitting two Russian tankers near Turkey that the Kremlin allegedly has been using to smuggle oil.
It comes as a Ukrainian delegation is expected to arrive tonight in Florida for talks tomorrow on the Trump administration's new peace plan.
They will meet with Secretary of State Marco Rubio as well as President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and his envoy Steve Witkoff.
The delegation was due to be led by President Zelensky's chief of staff Andriy Yermak, but he was forced to resign yesterday amid a corruption scandal.
Zelensky under huge pressure.
Now Witkov is due to visit Moscow next week to present the plan to Vladimir Putin, but Putin has already signaled that he won't compromise, saying that it's pointless to sign anything with Zelensky.
So they launched drones.
Ukraine launched sea drones.
Yeah, there's no boat drones.
Near Turkey.
Yeah, and by the way, I think it was irresponsible.
It's not very environmentally friendly to blow up a tanker full of oil.
Very ungreen.
They had to cause a lot of pollution.
Very not green of them.
Probably killed a lot of fish.
I just find it highly unlikely that those little boat drones, I mean, where are they launched from?
They weren't launched from obviously not from Kyiv.
A vague report.
Yeah.
Well, and the end of that report had a little bit about the corruption, which is these two clips of last ones I have.
Okay.
And these are WTF clips, which means that they don't make sense.
Negotiations.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
I am sorry.
I'm the one who stuck in my own clip.
You should be sorry.
I am.
Ready?
Negotiations to end Russia's war against Ukraine will continue in Florida this weekend as a Ukrainian delegation arrives to negotiate with the Trump administration.
Joining us now with the latest is NPR's Eleanor Beardsley in Kyiv.
Hi, Eleanor.
Hi, Miles.
So these negotiations won't include a top Ukrainian negotiator who resigned yesterday.
Can Tell us about him.
Well, his name is Andrei Yermak, and he is Zelensky's chief of staff and right-hand man.
They go way back to Zelensky's TV days before he was elected president of Ukraine in 2019.
Yermak is a film producer and a former business partner of Zelensky, and they've also worked closely together and even lived together in the fortified government compound in Kiev since the full-scale invasion.
Yermak is not well liked by Ukrainians who say he's amassed too much power and was not the person they voted for.
Analysts tell me American and European allies didn't appreciate him either.
Anyway, he got caught up in the corruption scandal that broke in mid-November, involving at least eight people who are now under investigation, several close to Zelensky, who are suspected of siphoning off more than $100 million from the state nuclear power agency, and this at a time when Ukrainians are fighting a war and hunkering down under daily power cuts.
Investigators searched his house Friday morning and Friday night, Zelensky spoke and said he had accepted Yermak's resignation in his video address to the nation.
Let's listen.
He says, for our internal strength, there should be no reason to be distracted by anything other than the defense of Ukraine.
And he went on to say, Russia really wants Ukraine to make mistakes, and we will make no mistakes.
But negotiations are ongoing to end this war with Russia.
How is this scandal going to impact that?
Well, some say it's made Ukraine more vulnerable and weakened Zelensky.
But today I spoke with 30-year-old Dmitro Kotyatensky.
He's a young anti-corruption activist, and he says this investigation and Yermak's resignation doesn't show Ukraine is corrupt, just the opposite.
Zelensky just lost his main guy.
He's on record saying, well, if he's not with me in the odds, I'm not here.
This is his main guy.
He got abandoned.
I think this guy extracted himself.
It's not like he got arrested.
No, I just resigned and he's gone.
And he's gone.
Yeah, to one of the many houses he probably has around the world.
Yeah.
And I like the idea that, hey, there's no corruption.
Getting caught proves there's no corruption.
What kind of logic is that?
I think what they're probably saying is it proves that they're getting rid of corruption.
We're getting ready for the EU.
No.
No.
This guy was either pulled out or saw it all.
I mean, Zelensky is naked now.
I think he's completely because we just have to remember.
Well, he has to be because the public in Ukraine say that this other guy is too powerful.
They didn't vote for him, meaning he's running the show.
Yeah, of course he was running the show.
Zelensky, just to reiterate, was an actor playing a popular playing an actor who, by popularity, was voted to become president of Ukraine.
And then it happened.
And it was produced and directed by that guy.
He's now gone.
Exactly.
So when that guy's gone, you know, it's like the crew just went home, dude.
Like, shut the lights off when you leave the studio.
I think this is over for him.
What's your second clip here?
It's just a follow-up.
It shows Ukraine can independently investigate and expose corruption, something Russia, he says, could never do.
Here he is.
For me, it's incredible that during full-scale war, we didn't drift to our autocracy, and we are still a democratic country with a clear European involvement.
And can you tell us the latest on the amended peace plan that negotiators are working from?
Well, this is the amended plan after Ukraine and the Europeans weighed in on what was a very pro-Russian plan presented last week by White House envoy Steve Witkoff.
Zelensky has endorsed this one, but while Russian President Vladimir Putin has suggested the plan could still be the basis of a settlement, he said Russia would only stop its war if Ukraine leaves territory it's currently occupying.
And he was referring to parts of Ukraine's eastern Donbass region that Russia has not been able to take in nearly four years of fighting.
Putin said if Ukraine doesn't leave, Russia will take the land by force anyway.
And Ukrainians don't think Putin will stop.
And it's easy to understand why, Miles.
The Kremlin continues to attack Ukrainian cities.
Just last night, there was a massive combined attack of drones and missiles on Kiev.
It went on for 10 hours.
Two people were killed, dozens injured.
Yeah, dozens.
I thought it was two.
I thought it was two.
So two kills.
Oh, dozens injured.
Yeah, after 10 hours of attacks.
Okay, well, very effective.
All right.
So Zelensky is naked.
His guy's no longer with him.
The studio is empty.
The grips have left.
All of the costumes and wardrobe gone.
Wardrobe amazing gone.
He's going to have to do selfies.
Here is a report from this is from, I think it might be Euronews.
Tough speaker, but just get into it and just let your mind hear what she's saying because this is an Euro news, as I said.
EU not wanting any of this.
They don't want any deal.
They want to keep the war going, including the.
Let me see.
Listen to this.
Just you have to get into it.
A new delegation chief for high-stakes talks.
This is not the bad one.
This is the good one.
Security Council Secretary Rustem Yumarov is now leading the Ukrainian team heading to the U.S. for discussions on a peace deal that Washington is aiming to broker between Kyiv and Moscow.
It comes after the resignation of Andrea Ma.
Hold on.
This is the wrong way around.
I want this one.
This is the one where they get the French guy in here.
A new delegation chief for high-stakes.
It's the same clip.
What is that?
Let me see if the French guy's in here.
The Ukrainian delegation has the necessary directives.
Others, however, are more skeptical, including this former diplomat.
President Vladimir Putin has already said several times that he doesn't want to sign any agreement whatsoever, whether it's a ceasefire, a peace agreement, or any other kind of agreement.
We are far from reaching any kind of agreement.
He doesn't want to sign with Zelensky because he considers him illegitimate.
After meeting the Ukrainian officials, Witkov is due to travel to Russia next week to meet with President Vladimir Putin.
Over in Europe, President Emmanuel Macron will hold discussions with Zelensky in Paris on Monday.
According to the French presidency, the two leaders will talk about the conditions for a just and lasting peace.
All right.
So the problem that still remains, and we'll get to the solutions that are on the table in a minute, with our boy Rasoulis.
I got a two-parter from him.
Hey, he's good.
He knows what he's doing.
Hopefully, he doesn't ask for commissions.
No.
This may be the tough speaker.
This is about the money.
And I'm sure you didn't, no one heard about it, but if you looked really hard, you could follow that the European Commission, i.e., Queen Ursula, wants to take the money, the Russian money.
Oh, right.
We've talked about this over and over.
You talked about it in the last show.
Yes, they want to basically ruin the world financial system.
Maybe they're going to buy it this way.
Look, Swift's going to get submarined anyway by stablecoin if that works.
So let's get the money and hell with it.
Well, it's only like 300 billion.
I mean, it's a lot of blows.
300 billion.
So they are, it's just incessant.
Like, we need this money.
And Brussels, where Euro clear is, that's where the actual money is.
When I say actual money, I guess it's just some data.
I don't know if Euroclear holds gold or I don't know what real money this is.
Which reminds me.
Yes.
Where's their Fort Knox people?
They're supposed to go with the cameras.
Since Trump got elected, they were talking about it.
What happened here and there's nobody going in there?
Where's my live stream?
And Brussels sent a stern letter and said, no.
No, we don't want that because they know that they're going to have a target on their backs if they all of a sudden give up this money.
So they're like, no, you can't do that.
Here's the report.
This may be the tough lady.
It's tough to hear.
In an interview with Euronews and the morning show Europe today, EU ambassador to Ukraine, Katerina Maternova, called on the EU to move forward with the Russian frozen assets debate.
The assets could secure 140 billion Euros reparations loan to Ukraine to fund its war effort.
Very important is to move on the Russian frozen assets.
That's what the Commission presented as the three potential avenues how to secure money for Ukraine, which would send an important signal not only to Ukraine, but to Russia as well that Europe will stay with Ukraine.
These people are delusional.
Oh, it'll send a message, all right?
Though it sends an important message to the people.
Are you kidding me?
The message that no one can trust you.
Ultimately, it is the Belgian government that holds the key as the host country of the assets depository, Euroclear.
It has, however, yet to give the green light.
Belgian Prime Minister Badewever sent a strongly worded letter to the European Commission on Thursday night saying the reparations loan is fundamentally wrong and that he remains unequivocally clear about the dangers.
Diplomatic efforts.
I think they do this voice on purpose so we can't understand what's going on.
You know, it's not that you can't hear the words, it's the cadence.
It's horrible.
It's some weird cadence that's almost impossible to pick up on.
I mean, the individual words are there, but it's the way it's presented.
It's very strange.
You might be right.
It might be hypnotic.
In this case, I would say go for AI, please.
Diplomatic efforts at the highest echelons continue, but the clock is ticking before EU leaders gather for a summit in December for a crunch decision.
We have for her part.
Matanova echoed this concerns.
Sanctions and deliveries and support to the Ukrainian armed forces and our defense industry are all critical.
You ask what would happen if it doesn't take place.
I think the stakes are very high.
And not only for Ukraine, but for all of Europe.
Yes.
Well, mainly for the military industrial base, which is building up in the EU.
Leonardo, Leonardo, we've heard of that as a big defense contractor.
They just unveiled the Michelangelo dome.
Yes, we're trying to do one better than your golden dome, Trump.
It's an AI-powered shield system.
Can you say boondoggle?
Boondoggle.
It's an AI-powered shield system.
And so it's, why is it named Michelangelo?
Well, the company is Leonardo.
Da Vinci?
Yes.
Well, just Leonardo.
How many Leonardos do you know except DiCaprio?
Da Vinci?
Yes, Da Vinci.
So that's why.
What's it got to do with the Michelangelo?
Michelangelo wasn't Leonardo Michelangelo.
It's right in the same city.
Oh, okay.
Same country.
Oh, I get it.
It's a dumb name.
And so it's a Michelangelo dome.
Michelangelo.
So here's our boy Rasulis in his back to the pullovers.
He's back to the sweaters on CBC, a very globalist interview, actually.
I only got two clips.
First, we'll talk about Zelensky's main guy stepping down.
And does that affect everything?
Let's talk about the timing of this because it is quite a turbulent time politically for Ukraine, particularly Zelensky dealing with the fallout from that corruption scandal.
His chief of staff and key negotiator stepped down on Friday.
So what kind of pressure is that now putting on Zelensky in these negotiations?
It certainly makes him weaker now.
You have people from the opposition who are starting to cite.
You have the Chatla Zhirluni, the Ukrainian ambassador in London, who was a former commander of Ukrainian forces, is now writing articles about how to conclude a peace.
And you may have to make some deals on security guarantees.
I mean, people are coming out now and basically kind of secondeering opinions against Zelensky.
So Zelensky's weaker and he's got a new team together, yes.
But it just does not look good on him, the fact that you have these corruption scandals, particularly in the area of energy, when the Russians are actually hitting the energy grid in Ukraine and people are, ministers are actually taking 15% off the top in terms of contracts to fix the energy grid.
Yeah, that's again, that's how you do it.
You make sure that you take some money and let the grid get blown up and take some money off of the repair for the grid.
Who knows?
They could be doing it themselves.
So now we get to the meat, the meat of it.
And this globalist newsreader is very biased.
So the question is, what about the plan?
And our favorite terms, do uré, de facto, and demilitarized zone, all are at play.
You know, looking at the initial plan, Trump's initial 28-point peace plan, it was criticized as being too weighted towards Russia.
It was called a Russian wish list at one point by some who were criticizing that.
I didn't hear that.
Did you hear Russian wish list?
What?
What?
Russian what?
The 28-point plan was by some called a Russian wish list.
A wish list.
I didn't hear that.
I haven't heard it.
No, they say it was written by the Russians or it was Putin's plan, but I never heard of it.
A wishlist wishlist.
She's a globalist newsreader.
And part of that included Ukraine ceding the entire eastern region of the Donbass to Russia, which of course is a non-starter for Kyiv.
So is there any wiggle room here?
And how can they possibly have or find a middle ground when it comes to creating this framework?
Sure.
I don't think we're looking for a middle ground again because the balance of forces favors the Russians.
So I think it's going to be more give on the Ukrainian side, less give on the Russian side, but the Russians might give something.
Now, the thing about the territory, the magic words is not to cede by law.
That is not de ure.
And the Russians have accepted the fact that all they're requiring, the Ukrainians and the West, is to acknowledge.
It's really, I think, stop using the word cede, but actually it's better to use, acknowledge the fact that the Russian forces control and occupy the areas they do.
And that's a major difference.
So de facto, not de ure.
Now, the key pivot here in these final negotiations will be, as you mentioned, ceding or giving up the rest of the Donbass, particularly the fortress built in Donetsk.
That, for the Russians, is really important.
And for the Ukrainians, really important to hold.
I think a lot will shift on that.
And I cannot predict the outcome except that a demilitarized zone concept may be a solution there.
Yeah, this is going to be just like North and South Korea.
Demilitarized zone, de facto.
That's yours.
That's ours.
We're not going to paper the deal because Europe still needs their boogeyman at the border.
And I think this deal will happen.
I think there's a good chance it happens this weekend.
I think it'll be pulled up.
There's nothing left.
But this weekend's almost over.
Well, by the time you get to this podcast, after the right.
Well, there you go.
That's possible.
Yeah.
But after the Mar-a-Lago meeting, have you looked it up?
Did you figure out where they're going to meet in Florida?
Yeah, I looked it up.
Or Lando.
Well, according to Gemini, because Gemini is now the best AI, Gemini.
Well, according to the marketing, yes.
Technically, no.
The talks taking place today, Sunday, November 30th, 2025, are not being held directly at Mar-a-Lago.
They are happening nearby in Florida involving key members of President-elect Trump's inner circle.
They will be taking place at the Hollandale Beach Shell Bay Club.
A golf and rocket club developed by Trump's special envoy.
Oh, it's Witcoff's Club.
Oh.
Witkoff owns a golf club too.
I guess so.
Yeah.
Hallendale Beach at the Shell Bay Club.
That's about an hour south of Mar-a-Lago.
Well, that's neutral ground.
I think that's Witcoff.
Hey, we'll do it at my club.
All right.
How about doing it at my club?
I want my club, man.
My club.
I want my club.
My club is better.
Crazy times we live in.
Crazy, crazy times.
All right.
So we have a the Islam op has taken off.
And this happens on the heels of this shooting in D.C. of the two guardsmen, one female passed away and one in critical condition.
Do you have any clips on that?
I don't have anything on it.
In the newsletter, I was talking about the color revolution concept that's showing up.
Yep, I'm going to get, I guess.
Yes.
And, but no, I don't, because there's nothing to me, there's nothing really I'm just not that excited about it.
I mean, I feel bad about the woman getting killed.
And it's interesting, also interesting that this guy's probably a spook and he came all the way from Bellingham, Washington, one way or the other to come to Washington, D.C. to shoot two random people.
The whole thing, you know, it reminds me a little bit of the shooting in New York that they covered up where the guy came in and shot the Blackstone woman.
Yeah.
And they claimed it was his shooting at the NFL for some reason because he's got brain damage, even though he never played football in the NFL.
And they just to cover up the Blackstone killing because Blackstone's an issue.
And he came from an area where they were dominating buying up properties.
So it made sense.
I get the sense of something like that going on, but I can't put my finger on what it is.
Well, we don't have enough information.
It felt to me a very six-week cycle-like, you know, rile a guy up, get him to go to D.C., shoot something, somebody had a bit of that.
That is not the official story.
In fact, we'll do this for just a little bit.
I have a lot of things.
By the way, it does have a slight six-week cycle.
Screwed up, you know, they screwed up again like they did at Butler.
You know, when they got the guy, they have pictures.
Why was the guy completely naked?
Did you see that?
I didn't see these.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's pictures of they got the guy and they got him on a stretcher and he's completely naked.
You sure there was an AI?
Who knows?
I'm not sure of anything anymore.
Here's the most recent fallout over this.
New this morning, President Trump says he plans to suspend immigration from what he calls third world countries.
The announcement comes after a shooting in downtown D.C. that killed a National Guard member and critically injured another.
Police say the suspect is a 29-year-old Afghan national who arrived in 2021.
Trump has not said when a suspension would begin or which countries it would include.
Okay, here's a follow-up.
And you've made changes for Afghanis' ability to apply for asylum.
Do you blame all Afghans for this one man's note?
No, but we've had a lot of problems with Afghans because they had a lot of them coming in on these planes.
Again, I show you this picture.
So he's showing the picture that we've all seen, I think, of the C-130s completely packed with people, the people who supposedly were hanging on the aircraft.
Remember that?
Remember that?
They were hanging onto the sides of that inflatable fake aircraft.
But inside, there were indeed hundreds of people.
Again, I show you this picture.
We had a lot of them coming in on these planes that are looking.
There was no checking.
They just poured into the plane.
And many of these people are criminals.
Many of these people are people that shouldn't be here.
And many of them have been gotten out.
I mean, we've gotten out some, a lot of the people that, you know, we've taken a lot of matter here.
Well, they can't be happy, okay?
They can't be happy.
Because what's taking place between that, if you look at Somalia, they're taking over Minnesota.
And they are, we got a lot of problems with the gangs, with all of the things taking place in Minnesota.
We have an incompetent governor.
A dope.
We have a dope governor.
He's a dope.
We got a dope there.
They can't be happy about what's going on.
And if you talk about the Afghans, you know, there's a problem because so many bedouins came in on the planes.
They just walked in.
Whoever the strongest people were physically in a way.
But whoever the strongest, they got on the planes.
There was no checking.
They just swamped the planes.
They took off.
We had no idea who they were.
Okay, so we had no idea.
And in many cases, we did not.
And there was, and absolutely, there were a lot of Afghanis similar to Iraq who worked as translators and worked closely.
This is a different deal.
This is a, you know, it's a little vague about, yeah, I was a CIA trained.
These are basically mercenaries, as far as I can tell.
And they were doing a lot in northern Afghanistan, even when everybody pulled out because they were still fighting, I guess, the Kurds up there or something.
So it's very sketchy as to his CIA training and connection.
Unfortunately, if you're the female reporter who asks about this, you got the brunt of President Trump.
Your DOJ IG just reported this year that there was throw vetting by DHS and by the FBI of these Afghans who were brought into the U.S.
So why do you blame the Biden administration?
Because they let him in.
Are you stupid?
Are you a stupid person?
Because they came into on a plane along with thousands of other people that shouldn't be here.
And you're just asking questions because you're a stupid person.
There you go.
Well, you know, I missed that.
Are you a stupid person?
Okay, now for whatever.
If you're, I'm trying to, I always imagine if you're a reporter and you have this question list and you have to get some response or other, and you ask, you know, it's innocuous.
He could have been nicer.
But then they blasts her.
She just gets blasted out of the water.
And maybe at some point it becomes a badge of some sort.
You know, oh, I got choke.
Oh, definitely.
Oh, of course.
Hey, Trump called me stupid.
Wow.
Have a drink on me.
So what's interesting is the Sunday shows, thank you, Steve, for getting that for me.
The Sunday shows, it was Christy Noam everywhere.
It wasn't Kash Patel.
Yeah, Christy Noome is on, she's got a, she's, yes, she's been booked to an extreme everywhere.
So she's the one sending out the messaging, and she's good at it.
And this is her with Jonathan Carl on ABC.
Let's turn to Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam.
Secretary Noam, thank you for joining us.
Have we learned any, have you learned anything about the motivations of this shooter?
Why did he do this?
Why did he drive across the country and carry out this brazen attack in Washington?
Well, the investigation is still ongoing, and we're allowing our partnership with the FBI and DOJ to continue to reveal all of the sources of motivation.
But we do believe this individual, when they came into the country, we know he was unvetted.
He was brought into the country by the Biden administration through Operation Allies Welcome and then maybe vetted after that, but not done well based on what the guidelines were put forward by President Biden.
And now since he's been here, we believe he could have been radicalized in his home community and in his home state.
So as we continue to talk to his family and his contacts, more details will be revealed and we'll release those when it's appropriate.
Okay, so the message is he was radicalized in his home, Washington.
So Washington's on deck.
I'll give you the rundown on that.
Okay.
The thinking goes as follows.
And this is being rolled out.
It's a good clip because it catches it in real time.
But the thought is, oh, yeah, well, we got these guys.
We vetted them and we gave them a bunch of money and they're going to then cut them loose after two years, expecting them to be on their own.
They're going to do fine, but they couldn't make it.
They couldn't make it because it was too tough.
And so they ended up getting caught up with bad actors here within the country.
And those guys and the bad actors flipped them.
Is there a huge Afghan community in Washington?
In Bellingham, Washington?
Ah, you sound like a bad thing.
Maybe there is.
I don't know that there is.
Let's find out.
Washington State is a racist state that is very few little.
It's not like Minnesota where you have that enclave of Somalians or Sudanese.
And no, not that I know of.
I mean, it's possible.
Call Mimi.
Ask her.
She'll know.
No, she's here and she doesn't, she's never heard of such a thing.
Okay.
All right.
We'll go on to the radicalization part with Christy.
But you just said that he was radicalized here in the United States.
So is there our understanding that the issue, his intent happened here?
This was not something he came to the United States with an intent to carry out attacks like this.
Well, we know that when Joe Biden left the White House, he left us with a 1.5 million.
Anti-hate.
This is all anti-Democrat now at this point.
At this point, it's like Democrats, Democrats, Joe Biden, he did it.
Democrats.
Case backlog in asylum claims.
And individuals are required under us law and under policy.
Us law?
She said under law.
No, she said us law.
I think she's reading a script.
Listen to us.
Oh, U.S. law and she said us.
Yeah, listen again.
Backlog in asylum claims.
And individuals are required under us law and under policy.
She says law.
She misreads the script.
So she says us instead of U.S. law.
Yeah.
Because there's a big difference between saying us law.
I would think so.
She's reading a script.
Okay, yeah, you're absolutely correct.
You're right again.
Wow.
Please go back to the old John and say, I can't argue that with you.
This is a great, that's a great catch.
She's scripted, and they're trying to pin everything on Byte.
There's a logical problem here, which they have not addressed in any way, shape, or form.
Okay, he's in Bellingham, Washington, of all places.
He's flipped somehow because he was a CIA trainee and he was part of some group in Afghanistan, but he's been flipped.
And instead of taking care of business either locally or someplace within earshot, he drives all the way to Washington, D.C. to randomly shoot, randomly shoot two specific people outside of a, you know, basically a subway station or subway stop.
You get out, you walk up the steps and there's a couple people there.
You shoot them.
This is no.
No.
No.
Sorry.
Maybe he meant.
You better fill in the blanks a little better than that.
Maybe he got on the wrong plane.
He thought Washington was where he lived.
I don't know.
Maybe he's one of those stupid people.
That could be.
Let's listen to us law again.
Well, we know that when Joe Biden left the White House, he left us with a 1.5 million case backlog in asylum claims.
And individuals are required under us law and under policy to check in every single year when they have asylum in this country.
And that wasn't being done.
These individuals that were brought in were brought in and then vetted on information that was gathered by the Biden administration that wasn't thorough.
And so now we're completely changing that since President Trump has been in the White House.
And since I've been at DHS, we're using biometric information.
We're using those social media platforms and looking at what they're saying and doing and making sure that we have a government when a country is sending us someone, we have a government that is stable in that country that can actually share information with us.
How do we vet someone that comes from Afghanistan or Somalia or Yemen if they don't have a government that we can communicate with that will share information with us?
So that is one of the prerogatives and one of the priorities that we're putting on these countries if they want to continue to send us people that want to claim asylum.
Okay, so I don't think this is a DHS op.
I think DHS, Chrissy Noam in particular, is being given a script to put the Yemenis and the Somalis on point.
Remember, Trump said, he's a dope.
He's a dope.
He got Somalians.
So this is never let a crisis go to waste moment here.
Like, oh, okay, well, this sucks.
However, now we can go after those Somalis because they're a pain in the ass, too.
That's what I'm smelling here.
And that's why.
I can't disagree with this.
I'll go back to my old way.
Yeah, thank you.
I feel much more comfortable.
As you should.
And now we go to CBS, CIA broadcasting systems, and I say that because they used to be.
Well, they bring on Samantha Vinagrod.
Vinagrod.
She's like a salad dressing, Vinagrad.
Vinagrad, yes.
She was a vinaigrette.
Vinograde.
Vinaigred.
I think they actually say vinaigred.
She was the assistant secretary of Homeland Security for Counterterrorism, Threat Prevention, and Law Enforcement Policy for the Biden administration.
But listen to her career.
Vinograd joined the U.S. Department of the Treasury working as a deputy attaché to Iraq as an international economist.
Oh, that was during George W. Bush.
Then 2009, Obama, she suddenly becomes, she has tenure at the National Security Council, worked for Donald.
Then she ejects.
She goes to Goldman Sachs.
She works at Stripe, which is good because if we ever need something, we can call Vinaigrette, leading global public policy before joining CNN as a national security analyst.
Then she was a senior advisor at the Biden Institute at University of Delaware, worked as an advisor for the U.S. Fund for UNICEF, named the David E. Rockefeller Fellow at the Trilateral Commission, a Millennium Fellow at the Atlantic Council, and serves on the board of the Women Foreign Policy Group and co-founded Global Opportunity Advisors, a geopolitical risk and policy agency.
Very, very, very busy lady.
Let's talk to Ms. Vinograd.
For more on the vetting of the suspect before he entered the country, we are joined now by Samantha Vinograd, who is a former top counterterrorism official at the Department of Homeland Security under President Biden and was deeply involved in the process for screening and vetting.
She is now a national security contributor here at CBS News.
Sam, so good to have you with us.
Just this morning, the Attorney General said that this suspect entered the U.S. with minimal to little vetting.
Is that accurate?
Well, Nancy, I'm happy to talk about the vetting, but at this point, we don't have indications that the horrific tragedy was a result of a vetting failure.
Instead, the Attorney General also said this morning, it appears the individual was radicalized once here.
And let's be clear on what the vetting system is and what it isn't.
The vetting system is a system in which an individual's identifiers, their biographic information and biometric information, IRI scans.
Their biographic information?
What?
They got to show them your wiki page?
I think she meant biometric.
I think so, too.
Biographic.
And let's be clear on what the vetting system is and what it isn't.
The vetting system is a system in which an individual's identifiers, their biographic information and biometric information, IRIS scans.
No, not necessarily.
No, she might have met it.
Hey, she is a spook.
The vetting system is a system in which an individual's identifiers, their biographic information and biometric information, iriscans, fingerprints, facial images, are run against data sets of information about individuals with ties to terrorism and criminal history.
The vetting system is not predictive of whether an individual with no derogatory information is or is not at some point going to become violent.
What I can tell you is this, and I was involved in the process.
Every Afghan evacue underwent vetting overseas before they were cleared to be manifested for a flight to the United States.
They underwent vetting once they were manifested for a flight at a port of entry before entering the United States.
And then Afghan evacuees, including the suspect, were vetted again once in the U.S. by the Biden administration.
And this suspect underwent the most comprehensive vetting under the current administration when he applied for asylum.
That process would typically involve an interview and a review of social media handles.
Social media handles.
My goodness.
We're like Britain now all of a sudden.
She's going to finish it up here.
What can you tell us about these so-called zero units that the suspect was a part of in Afghanistan?
He worked with the CIA for years, right?
He did, which means that he was vetted by the CIA prior to beginning work in the Zero unit, which was a paramilitary and intelligence force that partnered with the CIA incredibly closely on some very intense missions.
So this suspect reportedly underwent vetting by the CIA for the first time over a decade ago.
He had highly specialized training.
He did undergo vetting at the time that he started working with the CIA and went on some very complex missions.
These units were accused of certain human rights abuses.
Yeah, they're mercenaries.
They're mercs.
She's talking out of her butt here.
Like, oh, yeah, get a CIA.
The CIA guys are always available to talk, but now you can't get one for some reason.
They got one.
She is one.
Well, yeah.
Okay.
So she's doing her own messaging.
There is a, going back to Christy Noam with Manhans Welker, has a little problem with the vetting and the asylum process.
Well, but just to be very clear, I want to go back to what happened on the Trump administration's watch.
He was extensively vetted in order to serve alongside U.S. service members as a part of the CIA trained strike force.
But in terms of what happened on the Trump administration's watch, just to be very clear, what vetting did the Trump administration do before giving this suspect asylum?
How do they know all this?
All we have is a photocopy of some ID that looks muddy.
This is all, to me, this is all a distraction to keep you from asking the question I just asked a while ago.
Why did this guy come all the way from Bellingham, Washington, supposedly driving?
Did everybody say what's his car look like?
They don't talk about any of that.
No.
What was it found in the car?
We don't know.
Nope.
They don't talk about any of that because he could have flown out for all we know on a C-130 and comes in and randomly shoots two guardsmen out of the blue for no apparent reason and just picks two out of the blue.
He could have shot people.
He could have gone to Portland, a little shorter drive.
There's plenty of military there.
He could have gone anywhere.
He could have gone to the local Air Force.
And how come we don't have a picture of his driver's license or of his social media handles?
All I see is this muddy photocopy thing that's saying, is it?
You're right.
It's muddy.
Why is it such a crappy copy?
And that's what they're bringing at this vetting, and Trump's vetting.
It's like there's a missing piece of this puzzle, and it has something to do with why he went all the way from Bellingham, somehow got to Washington, D.C., and shot two people.
And if it was, were they targets?
Were this some, I mean, there's something missing here, and it's big.
The vetting process, Kristen, happens when the person comes into the country.
And Joe Biden completely did not vet any of these individuals.
He did not vet this individual.
Waited until he got into the United States.
And then that application for asylum was opened under the Joe Biden administration when he was the president in the White House and allowed that to go forward with the information that they provided.
That's the Biden administration's responsibility.
This is the consequences of the dangerous situation he put our country in when he allowed those people to infiltrate our country during that abandonment of Afghanistan.
And that's why I'm so grateful we have a president now that isn't going to allow it to happen, that he now has put in place measures under his watch at the Department of Homeland Security that we are bringing in new information on vetting, new information to use, such as what do they do on Facebook?
What do they do on TikTok and other social media platforms?
And who are they talking to?
Who are their conversations with?
And we use their biometric data information now to track to make sure they are who they say they are and they're here for their right intentions.
She's got to get through the script.
Can I stop for a second here?
Yeah, sure.
Does everybody who comes into the country from Afghanistan all of a sudden have to be on TikTok and Facebook?
No, no.
This makes no sense to me.
It makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense to me.
This is the beginning of the digital ID that Christy Noam personally is pushing very hard with the real ID.
In some clips that I'll get to later, I think you're right.
Digital ID is part of this issue.
It's kind of a sub-story.
It's a subtext.
Digital ID, also digital currency is a subtext.
And I think there's another one that's coming up, which I'll discuss when I get to these clips.
So we'll end the Manhands Welker.
She brings on Senator Mark Kelly, and he knows what this is all about, of course.
Joining me now is Democratic Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona.
Senator Kelly, welcome back to Meet the Press.
Good to be on.
Thank you.
It's wonderful to be back after a really significant week.
And I do want to start with the National Guard shooting.
You, of course, served in uniform.
You know firsthand the impact, the devastation of gun violence.
You just heard Secretary Noam defend President Trump's decision to, quote, permanently pause migration from all third world countries.
What is your response to how President Trump is handling this?
Well, let me start by saying what happened to the two guardsmen, Andrew Wolf, Sarah Beckstrom.
Horrific.
Horrific.
And it shouldn't happen.
And I'm praying for him and for her family.
It was a horrible, horrible thing, and there needs to be an investigation and accountability.
But when I heard the secretary say that they're going to pause immigration from third world countries, I mean, I take that as a message that they don't want brown people coming to the United States.
I find that disturbing.
Donald Trump hates brown people.
That is the answer.
No, Senator Mark Kelly.
Now, this was used.
God, that guy.
This horrible attack was used immediately to strengthen the ongoing Islam op, which is taking place, which seems to be emanating from Texas currently, mainly.
Yes, this is a good point.
Yeah.
And who in Texas would possibly, why would they have a concern?
Because they have this, of course, these phony, all of a sudden there's all these mosques that are cropping up and they're going to build the meadows, which is going to be an enclave of Sharia law.
Yes, yes.
And all the rest of it.
Yeah, we've heard this.
And I understand that you had a dinner recently.
Well, here's everybody is hair on fire for Islam because it's doing the rounds and there's great concern about Sharia law.
It's going to be Sharia law in the schools, Sharia law on the streets, Sharia law in your HOA.
Well, that's always been.
No, wait.
That's always been Sharia law.
HOA is.
There's nothing new there.
Our Sharia law, yes.
If you're in an HOA, you're in Sharia law.
Why people put up with this is beyond me.
But okay.
But okay, go ahead.
So, Kara.
So all of this stems from one major source which has been seeding the airwaves in Texas, and that is General Michael Flynn.
And he was on Alex Jones.
I have two pertinent clips from that.
Oh, this would be good.
But we need to first listen to the follow-up after the 20 minutes that Flynn did just earlier this week on InfoWars with Alex Jones with one of his famous in-the-car talks.
Two weeks ago, on my syndicated broadcast, General Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, predicted that in the coming months or even weeks, the deep state CIA elements, ally of the Democratic Party, with Communist China, Venezuela, and others, will begin triggering sleeper cells inside the United States.
Sleepers leave.
I'll post the interview below.
She was on my broadcast yesterday and pointed out that all the evidence is clear.
We've also had whistleblowers that have talked to Jesse Waters and others at Fox from inside the CIA that this whole program with the seditious six and the script they were given, Brennan's the handler, former head of the CIA, from my analysis.
Okay, so let's just stop right there.
Alex, by the way, I'm very annoyed with myself because I had this clip a couple of weeks ago and I didn't put it on the show.
No, this is not a couple weeks ago.
Well, no, it's recent.
No, this is whenever I saw this clip, because I saw it, I said, oh, this is great for the show.
And then I never did anything.
You made a mistake.
You texted the link to me.
Oh, did I send it to you?
Yes.
huge mistake because then I win the clipboard.
That was a huge blunder.
What am I thinking?
I don't know.
Then it was a message.
You're on a roll and you got it nailed.
Besides that, you're the Texas Nexus.
Yes, it's right here.
It's right down the street.
So now his analysis, and I love Alex, but his analysis, according to my analysis, he says Brennan is the handler.
Brennan did the seditious six script.
John C. Dvorak, go.
It seems unlikely.
There's a couple of things going on.
One, there's this group that I mentioned in the newsletter, New Politic, which seems to have everybody in that group as poster childs.
But this has got Schumer.
I don't care what anybody thinks.
Schumer's written all over this thing.
Especially the don't give up the ship, which is an old phrase that only somebody that is as old as Schumer would even think of or think it's applicable.
It's got nothing to do with ships.
And this is just Schumer and his, you know, running the, running his side of the game to get the Democrats to win.
It's all about the midterms.
It's nothing about any.
Yeah, you can yell and scream and pull your hair out over Sharia law and all the rest of it.
But this is just to get the Democrats in, and Schumer's behind it.
Totally agree.
And I'm not blaming Alex for thinking this because the way he thinks is Brennan is a Muslim.
You and I know that.
Brennan loves Islam.
And so therefore it has to be Brennan.
And he's setting it all up.
This whole operation they've been running of saying, implying Trump's putting out illegal orders is ahead of major events to destabilize the United States with different paramilitary forces.
And then when Trump tries to call the military, the corporate media would already pre-planted the idea that his orders are illegal.
This is sedition.
This is the prep phase for a violent coup.
And I've been predicting it along with General Flynn as well.
Yep.
For years.
This is a very, very serious time right now.
And now we know, as you see below, has been released by CIA Director Ratcliffe.
Laura Logan has posted the information.
And she's got incredible intel connections.
I'll just leave it at that.
That this guy was part of a CIA strike force.
And that's what his ID says in Afghanistan.
And of course, her husband's been deployed over there forever and was a leading commander.
And there's also a very good source of information on that front.
So this is a major message to Trump.
This is a probe.
This was just literally hundreds of feet away from the fence of the White House.
And there's going to be more of this.
So people better get ready.
It's very, serious.
So I love my neighbor.
I really do.
I love my neighbor.
And her husband, very, very important guy.
Her husband is the guy who tells everyone the grid's going to go down and JFK Jr. is alive.
And don't forget that the government shutdown was going to last till Christmas.
90 days.
It was 90 days, and then the next day it ended.
Yes.
So the next day.
So before I get to my neighbor, first we'll go to General Flynn, who was setting all of this up.
And Flynn is the op, man.
He is the Flynn is.
You know, I'm looking back on Flynn.
Flynn was submarined a bunch of things before he even got to be head of DEI.
I'm sorry, DEI, the defense, the DIIA.
Sorry.
DEI.
What's wrong with brainwashing?
So the defense intelligence, before he became the head of it, he was already causing trouble.
And then when he got into the first Trump administration, it was one, I had to take this, give credit to, I think it was Mad Dog Mattis or one of them, or Kelly maybe before him.
I can't remember the, but they got rid of him as fast as they could.
Trump wanted him as an intelligence guy in the White House.
And they rousted that guy so fast that it was like, it was phenomenal.
And I had mixed feelings about it to this day because I thought he might have been doing a good job.
But over time, with you running into him and then watching this go on, I'm glad they did.
So here he is spouting off on AJ about fifth generation warfare.
This is it.
So what do we need?
We need a couple of things.
Number one, we need the Oval Office to throttle, and I mean, throttle down on this idea of information operations and understand that we are in the middle of what is called unrestricted warfare.
Unrestricted warfare is where there are, it is boundless what you can do.
And it comes out of, and you've talked a lot about this, Alec.
Alex, it comes out of the Chinese manual back in the late 90s, you know, which I've read that a bunch of times.
I've written a manual myself on fifth generation warfare.
A manual.
He literally wrote a manual.
I actually have a copy of it somewhere.
This like psyops, what are they?
That's his manual.
It is unrestricted warfare is without bounds.
That is what we are in the midst of right now.
And everybody needs to understand that.
You're talking full spectrum, full spectrum war.
That's right, full spectrum.
I mean, everything.
You're talking about the idea of illegal exploitation of different commodities, human beings, drugs.
We're talking about false actions and false flags when it comes to economic warfare, right?
You say you're going to do something and you do just the opposite.
Now, this is interesting because he kind of, he's not on Trump's team.
I'm not sure who he's actually, what team he's playing for, but this next part proves that to me.
It's the whole idea about using the information, like TikTok.
Trump will sit there, and I hope he's listened to this.
Trump will sit there and go, G and I just had a great call and we're going to do the following things.
Well, when Trump hung up, he has a duty, which he does.
He tells the American people, G and I just had a great call, and we're going to do all these great things, and we're going to have trade deals, and we're going to do TikTok and blah, blah, blah.
And we're going to 600,000 students for the next couple of years from China.
G hangs up and tells his team, great, we got exactly what we want out of them.
We're going to triple down.
We're going to quadruple down and we're going to continue to screw the United States of America.
That's how they operate, Alex.
They don't operate like Donald J. Trump operates because he, as you said, he does have a duty to preserve the Constitution of the United States.
He has a duty to inform our country and the people of our country because we're a democracy, we're a republic.
And so he's trying to be as transparent as he can be.
But trust me, we are not dealing with an even hand here.
So I don't know who he's working for, but that was not nice towards the president.
I mean, it may be true, but it's not.
It makes it sound like he knows what's going on in the president's naive.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So now we go to the neighbor, Lara Logan.
Her most recent episode, she has on Jim Simpson.
Jim Simpson wrote the book about, well, you'll hear what it is, but it's Jim Simpson.
Jim Simpson.
Don't you know Jim?
No, of course not.
No one's ever heard of Jim Simpson.
But he wrote the book on the Marxist-Islamist axis.
So now you know.
This is a big, we talked about on the show.
I mentioned this is what the insiders all, you know, this is the Marxist old commies.
Yeah, yeah, but it's old commies, new playbook.
It's all about the midterms.
Welcome back to the program.
Okay.
Our guest today is someone I have known for a number of years now.
He caught my attention with his written work as an author and some of your film work, Jim, because you've been in a couple of films along with the great Trevor Louden.
You were one of the early voices, Jim Simpson, in figuring out how mass migration was being used as a tool of Marxists and communists to invade the United States of America and Western countries around the world.
And then, of course, how Islamic immigration has been used as a cover by the Marxists, which led right to one of your more recent books over the last few years, The Red-Green Axis and how to understand it.
I have now added to that.
I'm sure I'm not the only one, other people to have added the red-green blue axis to that to include the globalists and how we're being played and how these forces around us really work.
So here's Jim now.
He's going to tell us what this is about.
What I think he's saying is the Democrats use Islamists to bring in their Marxist ideas.
Namdani, yeah.
Joran Nandani.
Well, you know, it's very interesting because we've been talking, we've been hearing a lot in the news lately about the Red-Green Alliance, they call it.
And, you know, it's taken from the Red-Green Axis, the two books that I wrote on it.
But it's really not so much an alliance as it is the communists using the Islamic radicals and the, frankly, the Muslim Brotherhood and the entire Islamic movement, the entire radical Islamic movement, including Islamic terrorism.
They've been using them as cutouts for continued war against the West with plausible deniability.
And people don't get that part.
Now, it's absolutely true that, you know, the Islamists that want to see Sharia law imposed in the United States and elsewhere in the West, many of them are very serious about that.
But a lot of the leaders, and I include Zorhan Mamdani in that category, are actually communists and they're using Islamism as a cover.
There you go.
So the whole op here is be afraid.
What?
Well, I was going to mention something, which is he uses red-green alliance to indicate this Muslim communist thing, which he, I guess, put in his book.
But he says it's widely used.
It's not.
No.
This is bull crap.
Red-green.
In fact, I just looked it up while you were about to explain that.
The term red-green alliance typically describes a political alliance of coalition involving red parties, such as Social Democrat and green environmentalists.
What's the environmentalist got to do with Sharia law?
This is just rebranding.
He's just rebranding on the fly.
We need to bring another.
This is co-opting.
He's trying to take the term and give it to himself and then make it green.
It somehow means Muslim.
I don't see that.
No.
It's not going to work.
Well, bring in another actor, Laura Loomer.
She posts the day before yesterday after the attack, of course.
We had the attack in D.C., urgent intelligence alert with flashing lights emojis.
NCTC National Counterterrorism Center confirms al-Qaeda presence on U.S. soil.
Imminent multi-city Islamic terror attacks.
So now we have Laura Loomer.
We have Laura Logan.
We have Alex Jones.
We have General Flynn.
It all kind of comes down to the same sleeper cells.
And she says this.
Sources tell me tonight that the National Counterterrorism Center has officially determined that Islamic terrorists affiliated with Al-Qaeda have infiltrated U.S. soil and are actively planning a series of coordinated Islamic terror attacks.
This marks the first time federal counterterrorism officials have openly acknowledged the immediacy of such threats, signaling a potential escalation in domestic jihadist activity not seen since the height of ISIS-inspired plots in the mid-2010s.
She goes on and on and on.
My sources tell me the attack strategy by Al-Qaeda is designed to sow confusion and cripple emergency response.
These terrorists have been purchasing large quantities of police and first responder uniforms from surplus outlets and online vendors in at least five states.
These acquisitions, traced through bulk credit card anomalies and CCTV footage, suggests a plan to impersonate law enforcement during the assaults, allowing attackers to blend in, direct panic crowds, or even execute secondary strikes on fleeing victims.
So blah, The plot's mass scale points to simultaneous strikes across multiple cities, be afraid, echoing al-Qaeda's historical ambitions for mass casualty operations like 9-11, but adapted for urban guerrilla tactics.
Targets could include soft sites such as crowded events, transportation hubs, and public gatherings.
We are under attack.
Okay.
So she links to a page on the NCTC's website where they indeed say Al-Qaeda's recent calls to conduct attacks in the U.S. highlights its enduring threat to public safety.
So I'm like, oh, well, maybe she's not full of crap.
Scope, this product is intended to inform federal, state, local, tribal, and territorial government, law enforcement, and first responders of Al-Qaeda's recent calls for attacks against the United States.
So here's where they got it from.
Al-Qaeda's resurgence of calls for attacks in the homeland highlights its persistence and enduring threat to the country, U.S. officials, and public safety.
Al-Qaeda and its Yemen-based affiliate, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, been waiting for those guys to come back, the only affiliate to have successfully enabled attack in the homeland, are likely seeking to leverage their media publications and global conflicts, particularly where there is U.S. support or military involvement to inspire potential attackers.
And here's their proof.
In mid-July 2025, Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula released the 10th edition of its English language Inspire magazine.
They've brought this back.
The CIA magazine.
They're literally bringing back Inspire magazine.
Yeah.
Which is a magazine.
It's like wired for Islamists, for jihadists.
We have been through this so many times.
It's the stupidest thing.
So this is an op on all sides.
And then Alex Jones takes it to the limit as he brings in something new we can all tweet about.
The same globalist BlackRock Obama-John Brennan coup that's been absolutely exposed, trying to overthrow our republic, is now trying to launch a military uprising that will come after some catalyzing false flag event.
Now, General Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, has been warning of this.
I've been warning of this.
And there's really a few others that have studied it or understood it for whatever reason.
And who go read the Podesta Plan and seeing them execute every piece of it?
So the focus is on this statement telling the military, you know, don't follow orders, basically.
You can argue that's free speech, but not who produced it, not who gave them the script.
And it's Brennan, we know.
And then they now admit they were given the script.
We know.
And it's this continuum of crossfire hurricane and Arctic frost and all the fake impeachments meant to undermine a newly elected government.
That is treason.
That is seditious conspiracy.
So he brings it back to a favorite, which is the Podesta Plan, the Podesta Plan.
This has all been planned.
This attack is imminent.
It's a color revolution inside the United States, all organized by Brennan.
We know it is.
It's a fact.
Here's Alex Jones explaining the Podesta plan on Tucker Carlson.
What is the Podesta plan?
Cole, when I talk about this, I get chills because of 2020.
No.
Reitbart wrote about it.
No.
The Daily Caller wrote about it, but the New York Times wrote about it first.
He comes out of this huge report.
They publish the whole thing.
And I'm reading like this.
What is like 70 pages or something?
And they say, if Trump wins in 2020, this is in August, months before, which they were able to steal it so he didn't.
He said, we're going to have Western states secede.
We're going to have blue cities secede, but we'll start with the Western states, California, Oregon, and Washington.
And we'll call it over migrants and sanctuary cities and healthcare at first, which they're now doing.
I'm getting chills because it's all happening.
You go to a play and you're reading, oh, the next act is this.
And Romeo and Juliet.
I mean, it's all right there.
Oh, it's an act.
All right.
And they say, if he wins, we will say it's illegitimate.
We will have blue states first secede and that they're going to be sanctuary cities for the illegals.
Then when there's civil unrest, which they'll furnish, Trump will send the National Guard and then there'll be a massacre of the migrants.
And then we will kick off a civil war.
Then all the blue cities across the country will secede.
Then New York, Massachusetts, and others will secede.
And we'll form what we call the Western Alliance.
And we will then, the U.S. military will be with us because they control the generals, people that don't think otherwise.
That was Trump's big mistake.
He found out.
Most of them are globalists at the top, not your enlisted.
They're great people.
And that they would then form a military alliance if Trump didn't stand down and they would march on D.C.
Yes.
So the Podesta Plan, as published by the New York Times, I read it.
It's from 2010.
The power of the president, recommendations to advance progressive change, outlines Democratic president, which of course was Obama, could use executive authority to implement progressive priorities like climate action, immigration reform, and labor rights without relying on a hostile Congress.
This thing, there's nothing in it about any of the things Jones just said, unless he's read something that the New York Times didn't publish, but I'm not familiar with any of it.
And it was really just, you know, liberal, raise the minimum wage, expand protections for undocumented immigrants, executive orders to reduce carbon emissions.
But oh, no, no, no.
This thing is so real.
They made a movie about it, remember?
And then they made a movie produced two years ago.
They released last year called Civil War that is the last act of the Podesta Plan.
That's in a two-plus-year Civil War race-based.
At the end, they go and, you know, the black female sergeant kills the Trumpian figure in the White House.
And that's because evil white people are now massacring brown people across the country.
So the U.S. military reconvenes under Gavin Newsom's command type.
And then they come in and then they take over the country and then they re-educate all the evil right-wingers and evil white people.
I love my neighbor.
I love Alex.
This is bull crap.
This is utter bull crap.
So don't get spun up over this.
This is just about the midterms.
It's connecting some Islamic fear over 48 mosques in two years in Texas, which is a total op for from Abbott.
You know, anything.
We'll do anything we can.
And these two guardsmen are dead.
You will use that one too.
Oh, yeah, they're everywhere.
So I don't, you're right.
This really does cover up the real question.
Why did this guy go from Washington State to Washington, D.C.?
And of course, it's horrible what he did.
Why was he naked?
I want to know that.
Yeah, I didn't even know that part.
But this is all about linking Democrats to Islamic jihadists.
That's really all this is.
And it's not going to work.
I don't think so either.
It may work in Texas to get people to make it.
Well, it'll work in Texas, but Texas is not the place where it needs to work.
No.
Because they're already a red state.
Yes.
I'm with you.
The whole thing.
It's like you're running a op on yourself.
Well, there's a wise move.
Well, I'd like to know who Flynn is working for.
That's the thing I don't, you know, it also seems to be a bit about this American.
How about this?
He's just delusional.
No, no, no, no, no.
You think he's actually...
I saw him when I met him.
He's looking for a bigger wallet.
He looks right through your head to see if there's a big wallet on the other side of you.
And that's just my perception.
You know, like, oh, what can this guy for me?
Podfather?
No.
Podfather, nothing.
I want daddy warbucks.
That's what it felt like to me.
So this has to be part of this sub-narrative of the national divorce, you know, the MAGA Civil War, the breakup, America First.
There's ops running every, and they're probably running counter to each other.
But it sounds like he's on the America First team to say, well, you know, Trump's a good guy.
Donald J. Trump was Donald J. Trump, but he doesn't, she's smarter than him.
She is just laughing in his behind his back.
So this is all about midterms and who comes after the Democrats win the midterms and they impeach Trump.
That's what it seems like to me.
And along with that.
Well, I mean, the impeaching seemed to mean nothing because they're never going to get their votes in the Senate under any circumstance.
So it's a complete waste of time.
Well, no, they'll impeach him.
They'll disable that.
Yeah.
They'll impeach him in the House.
Yeah, well, that's what you do.
But this just disables it, creates another news cycle of bull crap and they can't get anything done.
So whatever is going to get done is going to get done before then.
And there's nothing.
The second two years of his term is going to be pretty much a disaster.
If the Democrats have their way.
And I see no evidence that they won't.
The Republicans are blowing it left and right.
They're not accomplishing.
I mean, they've done a lot, but mostly internationally.
International stuff never affects the populace, the domestic voter.
The domestic voters are happy with it, but as far as they're concerned, no, no.
The prices are going up.
No, they're not really going up.
Well, they are.
Yeah.
They haven't gone down.
He says you're going to make them go down.
They never go down.
That's called a depression.
Can't do that.
But this is like, this is set up poorly.
They've done a lousy job of it.
Well, because you bring that up, we have Kevin Hassett, the Cheshire Cat, the guy who was so happy about 112,000 jobs and said, oh, this is great.
This is a doubling.
This is fantastic.
He's the chair of the president's economic council.
So he was now basically tapped to be the next chairman of the Federal Reserve.
And CBS brought him on to question him about inflation and prices.
I'm wondering how much of that spending increase you think is attributable to the fact that prices are up.
Let me give you an example.
The maker of Tonka trucks said a couple of days ago that a toy truck that cost $30 last year is going to cost $40 this year, partly because they lost about eight weeks of shipping due to the U.S. trade war with China.
What's your advice to holiday shoppers who don't want to spend more this year than they did last year or can't afford to spend more?
Right.
Well, as you know, it depends on what you're looking at.
Like egg prices are down.
Gasoline prices drop below $2 a gallon in a lot of places.
You mean below?
Gas prices on average are still at $3 a gallon.
Yeah, that's right.
For a few states, they got below two.
And so the point is just that in the end, what matters is in the aggregate, the average across everything that everybody buys.
And that averaged about 5% under Joe Biden and is a little bit above 2.5%, about cut in half for President Trump.
And the bottom line, though, is really the wages have been growing faster than prices.
So that's why real incomes this year are up by about $1,200 so far.
That's why we could have a great Black Friday and a great Thanksgiving sales weekend because people feel like they have more money in their pockets.
Even though you're right, there are some things that cost more and some things that cost less.
But on average, we're about half the inflation rate of Joe Biden.
Now, just a question.
Do you think that's true?
Do you know that to be true?
I think it's generally true, but people keep ignoring the fact that inflation is cumulative.
Yes, it adds up.
So if you have something that costs 10 bucks and then got jacked up to 20 bucks and then the inflation drops to 2%, it's still going up in price and it doesn't go down from 20.
It goes up.
It keeps going up.
It's always going a little bit.
To the moon.
Number go up.
So you end up with, so, you know, they can't, the promises can't be fulfilled.
You can't go back to the 10 bucks.
It just can't be done.
So Kevin Hassett probably will be the next Federal Reserve chairman unless he screws something up in the meantime, because you know how Trump is.
He'll change it on a dime.
And the markets love him.
Bloomberg is reporting, as I'm sure you know, that you are now considered the frontrunner to replace Fed Reserve Chair Jay Powell when his term expires in the spring.
Secretary Besant, who is heading up this search, said he was holding final interviews this week.
How did yours go?
You know, I am not sure that Bloomberg has the story right.
I'm really honored to be amongst a group of really great candidates.
The thing that I was most impressed about this week when that story leaked was that really, I think the news for markets was that President Trump is close to announcing a new person who's going to replace Jay Powell.
And if you look at the market response to that, it was very, very positive.
We had a great treasury auction.
Interest rates went down.
And so I think that the American people could expect President Trump to pick somebody who's going to help them have cheaper car loans and easier access to mortgages at lower rates.
And that's what we saw in the market response to the rumor about me, which is probably about as valuable as the rumor about the healthcare policy that we just talked about.
Well, I guess we'll find out if they're right sooner rather than later when we hear the president's decision.
So for now, director of the White House National Economic Council, that's your title today.
Kevin Hassett, thank you so much.
So I believe, again, if he doesn't mess something, if he doesn't say something stupid, he'll be the next Fed chairman.
He's going to bring interest rates down.
Now, not that it's just him alone, but he can spin.
He can do a lot of work on that.
And then add to that, I don't have a clip because, of course, why would anyone report on it?
The Genesis project.
Did you hear about this?
Maybe.
It's the executive order the president signed, and in essence, said, okay, Department of Energy, you are now in charge of AI.
Make AI.
No, I did not hear this.
Oh, yeah.
It's like AI, everything AI.
Excuse me.
It makes sense.
You know, the DOE is responsible for area 52 or 54, 59, whatever the hell it is.
51.
51.
Yeah.
A buddy of mine works there in this.
Area 51?
No, in the Department of Energy.
It's massive.
So Department of Energy, what do you need for AI?
Energy.
Lots of energy.
Oh, that makes sense.
So this is your bailout.
If we can't afford it, because you can't, we cannot have the markets.
We can't have the AI bubble pop here.
Not yet.
We can't.
No, this would be.
It's going to pop.
No, it's going to pop, but it can't pop for at least until 2027.
We've got to keep this thing going.
So the Department of Energy will...
I think you can hang in there for that long.
They have to.
They have to.
Because our GDP depends on it.
MAG 7.
This is all AI nonsense.
And so if investors lose their appetite and it's all about data centers and energy companies, Department of Energy, hello.
These guys will be throwing down small nuclear reactors fast than anybody can say it.
Whatever we need.
We're going to do it.
We cannot have any problems there.
And this guy comes in.
This is cheaper energy for the public at large.
It should.
It should.
Operative word should.
And then let me get these clips out of the way because there's one more little element I think at play.
And this will be the best I can do for today.
You can play in the second half of the show, but I don't think so.
This is the homeless stuff.
And I want to, it's four clips.
And I want to see if you can figure out the subtext.
And you probably will, because I did.
But you might or might not.
But I think it's part of the laundry list of things like universal ID or digital ID, digital money, and some other things.
This is an, I believe, to be an PBS took it on, but it underlies, I think, another one of these subtext ops.
Here we go.
The skyrocketing cost of living has left millions of people working at full-time jobs or a number of part-time jobs still unable to afford a place to live.
Ellie Rogan is back with her conversation with journalist Brian Goldstone, author of There is No Place for Us About This Growing Nationwide Crisis.
Thank you so much for joining us.
In your work, you've come to know many people who work who may have more than one job, but have come into circumstances where they cannot afford to keep a roof over their heads.
Certainly each person has a unique story, but are there any common threads in their experiences that you've been able to identify?
Trump is not Trump.
No.
Trump is Trump.
This common thread is Trump.
We'll find out in the next clip.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, I do argue in my book that in cities across America today, in one city after another, a low-wage job really is homelessness waiting to happen.
And what they have in common is they all belong to the low-wage workforce.
And it's not just that their wages are too low to keep up with the skyrocketing cost of having a place to live.
It's also that the jobs themselves have become increasingly volatile and precarious, where they often don't know how many hours they're going to be getting from one week to the next.
Their employers give them 29 hours a week because at 30, they would be eligible for basic benefits like health insurance or sick leave.
And yeah, the cost of housing, rents are just very, very quickly outpacing what their incomes are.
So that's kind of the backdrop that defines these people's existence.
For a long time, the stereotypical perception of homelessness is that it is something that happens to people on the fringes of society.
And that may have never been accurate, but what have you found out in your reporting about the reality of what it's like to be without a home?
Yeah, I mean, one really astonishing truth about homelessness in America is that what we see on the street is really the tip of the iceberg.
There's this entire world of homelessness that is out of sight, that has been rendered invisible.
And within that shadow realm of homelessness, as I refer to it, it is overwhelmingly populated with people, again, who are part of the low-wage workforce, families with children.
And these are people who are working and working and working some more.
And it simply is not enough to secure one of life's most basic necessities, a roof overhead.
Universal basic income?
Is that where this is going?
Oh, did I nail it?
Did I nail it?
Oh, yeah.
Here we go.
To be sure.
Wait, wait, let me just say a couple of things.
First of all, this is the hardest thing to sell the American public because it's a form of redistribution of wealth.
Yes.
And so this began with Hands Across America in 1986.
Oh, my goodness.
I remember that.
And so we're at the 40-year mark.
And this is this listening to this guy talk about homelessness is just being all about low wages and couldn't quite get over the hump kind of thing, which brings to mind universal basic income.
And I thought you might even catch it from the first clip, but you caught it earlier.
I mean, I was hoping you wouldn't get it at all.
But it's wishful thinking.
Wait, he has to bring in AI that AI is going to take everyone's job.
No, no, they don't do any of that because this is a sales pitch for universal basic income, even though they never mentioned it.
But I'm going to mention an anecdote.
Mimi drove down from Washington and she made a point of telling this story thus.
There's all these little places you can pull over to rest, rest spots.
It's called rest stop.
Next restop.
Rest stop.
Next rest stop 15 miles.
This is your shot.
Yeah, you go in there.
So she says there's all the way down through Washington State, all the rest stops.
She stops a lot for, she's got a couple of dogs.
And nobody.
The places were dead empty.
Dead empty.
Really?
And all the ones in California, dead empty.
Oregon, every one of them from the top to the bottom were favelas.
Not small favelas.
Three, 400 people, tents, camping, no place to park, no place to rest.
There is no way of doing it, a rest stop.
Oregon has turned all their rest stops into homeless encampments.
Well, first of all, sadly, this is the state, the state of what's happening.
And people, you need $28 an hour to even be considered to be allowed to get a rental unit, which is a little bit on the high side.
So I'm just recognizing how sad this really is.
But yeah, favelas.
Yeah.
Your favorite.
Yeah, but a true favela should be on the side of a hill.
If it's any good.
If it's any good.
The ones that I still see where the sign says South San Francisco is on the side of a hill and it's empty.
It's barren.
It would be a great favela.
It would add an impact to people driving into San Francisco because you couldn't miss it.
You'd see it.
So you're going into San Francisco, you see the big favela, tourist attraction, a shanty town, basically, and it would be, it would give you an indication of what's going on.
You've been calling for this train.
You've been saying we need favelas for years.
Yeah, I have.
Because you can actually create a living with neighborhoods, gangs.
They end up being run by criminals.
Criminals.
But they're still well run.
They're managed well, typically, or they'd be burning down.
They don't get burnt down.
I mean, Detroit got burned down in the late 60s.
How bad was that managed?
If the little city is not managed well, it gets burnt to the ground by the citizens.
And this doesn't happen in the favelas.
In a good favela.
In a good favela.
You know, it's sick, but true.
Okay, let's go to three.
To be sure, in the richest nation on the planet, nobody should be without housing.
But these pernicious myths and stereotypes that homelessness is just caused by addiction or it's just caused by mental illness, it really is not borne out by the reality on the ground.
And indeed, often mental illness and addiction is a consequence of this form of insecurity, not its cause.
Can you tell us a little bit about what the lives of the homeless workers are day in and day out?
And also, do those lives get harder during the holidays?
I think it's really easy for...
What kind of a question is that?
So you're homeless.
Is it worse during the holidays?
Yes.
Wow.
That's just dumb.
She's a stupid person.
Do those lives get harder during the holidays?
I think it's really easy for terms like the housing crisis or the homelessness crisis to become kind of abstract and to lose touch with just the acute human toll of this growing catastrophe in America.
You know, what homelessness looks like today isn't just the person sleeping outside the parking lot of a convenience store or a Walmart or a Target.
It's often the very cashier or worker stalking the shelves in those stores.
And they often have children at the end of their shifts.
They don't know where they're going to be going.
They have to tell their children, I don't know where we're staying tonight.
Maybe they're sleeping in a car in that very parking lot.
Okay.
What is the closer here?
What are they going to do?
The closer, this is all just a softening blow.
There's no mention of universal basic income at all in these clips, but that's so apparent to me and you, obviously, that this is messaging to create the environment for it.
And I think because we're going to hit the 40-year mark next year when this became like a topic of conversation beginning in 1986.
Was Hands Across America?
What was the cause?
Homelessness.
It was homelessness.
It was specifically homelessness.
You can look it up.
In fact, I had a, I think I met the guy, this Kagan character who started it at a Berkeley dinner in 86, just before he did it.
And I didn't realize he is also the guy that produced We Are the World, I think.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he was.
But that was for Africa.
Yeah, but then he turned his sights on this Hands Across America bit.
And I remember him discussing it at the table.
And I just thought it was daft.
And it wasn't going to work.
Daft.
It was crazy.
Nuts.
Daft.
I like daft.
Daft.
But it was marked the beginning of this whole 40-year cycle of softening up the public for look, maybe this will do it.
Maybe this will fix it.
Ken Cragan?
Yeah, you're right.
Ken Crag.
Yeah, he did We Are the World.
Huh.
Yeah, and he did Hands Across America.
Yeah, for hunger and homelessness.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Number four.
You know, there's a term that public health experts use to refer to the kind of stress that children and parents are exposed to in these circumstances.
And that term is toxic stress.
This is stress that is so chronic, so debilitating that it can fundamentally alter a child's long-term development.
That is the human toll of this insecurity.
And it is the consequence.
It's the toll of what has happened when millions, not hundreds of thousands, but millions of families in this country have been flung into what a case manager in my book refers to as the housing hunger games.
You've cited a number of deficiencies across all sorts of categories that are failing people.
But what institutions here need to change?
Are these, is this a failure of government, of industry, all of the above?
How do you see it?
Yeah, I think it is all of the above.
What I found in my reporting in the course of kind of immersing myself in the day-to-day lives of five families here in Atlanta where I live over a period of nearly six years, it's not just the housing system, which, you know, prioritizes profits above all else.
It's not just work and jobs and wages that aren't keeping up with the cost of living.
It's also other systems like health care, a lack of affordable child care, the education system, food insecurity.
All of these systems sort of collide to make this human disaster not just possible, but in many ways predictable and inevitable.
In the capitalist system, because obviously the people who were homeless and hungry in the 80s with Hands Across America, that eventually swings around, gets solved, like it's happening right now in Austin, Texas, where homes that were purchased in 2022 are now 20% cheaper than they were then because everyone's leaving.
It's not what they wanted.
All the tech firms are firing people.
These people were just transient anyway.
And these will eventually, and of course, there's less illegal immigrants.
So these will go up for rent and that will be more affordable.
Is that not kind of how the system works eventually?
To a point, except for the one missing factor here, which is the national takeover of as many houses as possible by blackstone and black rock.
Yes.
Those guys are buying up houses left and right at high price.
They pay top dollar and they get these places.
And I think the idea is they know universal basic income is coming.
They know people will be renting.
They can have the houses under their umbrella and they will be renting out at not necessarily top dollar, but good profitable, good profitable monies.
Best price.
And this is all part of a grand scheme.
And I think BlackRock and Black Snow.
It's very much behind a universal basic income.
And Snow is, as you'd say, snow sweat off their balls.
Well, that kind of goes along with the news that Coinbase is doing a pilot in New York called Future First, a basic income test with low-income New Yorkers aged 18 to 30.
They will be giving them a total of $12,000 in stablecoin, which they then can use to pay directly with stablecoin.
Even the No Agenda Show takes USDC if you want to support us.
And you can, of course, convert it into other cryptos and into currencies.
So these tests are underway again, but interesting now that it's Coinbase doing this, who is going to be a big player in the stablecoin gambit.
So I think you're right.
I think this is a setup.
It still has something to do with stablecoin.
Now that we have the Genius Act passed, it's all going to start uncloaking in the coming year.
And then regarding digital ID, man, Australia, they just shut down everything.
Social media, including YouTube, you got to be 13 or older.
I think it's 16, actually.
16 or older, no social media for you.
Accounts are being closed.
The EU, they're not messing around.
When you listen to this lady talking about the EU just voted in a, well, they voted in favor of a non-legislative report.
So it's not legislation, but it will be.
This is the setup for minimum age for social media.
And it's all tied to a digital ID.
Just listen to how she explains it.
First and foremost, we need to create an environment online on the social media and in video games, et cetera, that if kids and young people should be there, it needs to be much safer than it is today.
And one of the ways we can make it safer is to say that we will ban the most addictive and harmful design features we see online.
The thing that makes us scroll and scroll.
I mean, the kids scroll and scroll.
And it's difficult for them to put down the phone.
We are not controlling the algorithms.
The algorithms, they are controlled outside the EU, in the United States, in China.
We want to control the people.
In the Middle East, but not in Europe.
So we don't know.
And our kids are being formed by these algorithms in their approach to each other, to commercial things, to how you interact, to democracy, etc.
By the way, our kids are being formed the same way, lady, that just as retarded as your kids.
And that's really a huge experiment.
And we need to stop it.
We need to end that.
And here we go.
And one of the ways we can do that is by saying, well, we need to have an age limit.
And that age limit needs to be controlled so that we can make sure that at least the social media we know today, that it is not possible to access them until you're at least 13.
We're saying 16 years old.
And then, if you want to go online before, you need to have your parents' consent.
We want to avoid a fragmented internal market.
And that's why we suggest a harmonized EU age limit and give some systems that could be used to check it.
But for us, it's very important.
For the parliament, it's very important that the systems that would check the age needs to be privacy-preserving.
It needs to be accurate and it needs to be robust.
And we will give you these systems.
We will give you the systems to check your ID.
This is coming.
They are going all in with their digital Euro coming in 2027.
I think it's inevitable.
It is.
It is.
There's no other way.
The internet brought it to us.
Thank you, Internet.
You know, I have this one clip, and it kind of gives me hope in a way.
But the thing is, when we say the internet, all people think about is the stupid phone, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, X, Blue Cry, blah, blah.
They must realize that we, as you say those words, we're doing this over the Internet.
And we're not on a platform.
Although I did sign us up for Spotify.
Okay, well, you could stay.
Okay.
Let me see.
You can do that.
It's an experiment that's waiting to see what so we can experiment.
So I think it's worth doing.
Yeah, well, that's why we agreed I would do that.
And this was to see, okay, we're still, they're still processing our show, which I think means they're not even going to let us on.
Yeah, yeah, you got music.
You got music.
You got music in there.
You can't be honest.
People just have never been educated and understand that you don't need to use Microsoft's Windows or Mac.
You know, you can build a Linux machine out of a piece of crap hardware.
It'll probably work better than your Windows 11 machine.
That you can create your own website or your, there's so many different ways to communicate and to express your feelings, your, I mean, Mastodon.
Set up a Mastodon server if you want to.
You can Fediverse.
Fediverse.
There's all kinds of ways, but people are so bought into this is it.
This is the system.
This is the internet, baby.
This is it.
But it's got my chatbots, my AI.
They don't understand that the network itself is the beautiful thing.
And the whole reason that podcasting, the way we do it, no one can really stop us from doing that.
I mean, even if somehow they went and kidnapped Void Zero and pulled all the plugs, we're still on IPFSpodcasting.net, which is completely distributed.
There's no way you can get rid of us.
You have the Tor network.
There's all kinds of ways that we can communicate that the government really can't do anything about.
No government can really do that.
Apaches.
Apaches?
Yeah, Apache helicopter.
They can stop us both.
Well, okay.
Yes, they could stop us with Apaches, but they got to have a lot of Apaches to stop everybody.
And there's this Gen Zero who I caught on TikTok.
I'll admit, I'm bringing in a TikTok clip.
Oh, okay.
Ah, okay.
Poacher.
You're being mean to me now.
You're calling me names.
Poacher.
Poacher.
I'm the pod father, the poacher.
And I'm in one way happy about this.
On the other hand, a little sad, but she's finally realizing that all these platforms suck.
Nothing feels authentic anymore because everything is an ad.
This week, I've been writing about having ad fatigue.
I have 29,916 unread marketing emails.
When I go to watch a YouTube video, I have to watch three ads every five minutes.
Pinterest and Instagram is just one big sponsored post now.
Every time a video goes viral, a major corporation is in the top comments acting like they're a Gen Z intern.
Black Friday is somehow a month long and nothing's actually on sale.
It just feels like around every corner now there is an ad lurking, waiting to capitalize off our attention, waiting to capitalize off of any real or genuine moment.
The boundaries between human being and brand have become so blurred that it's difficult to distinguish between the two.
Brands act like people online, people act like brands online.
Influencers are people, but they're also living, breathing ads.
Celebrities are also influencers and also brands as well.
And regular people want to be influencers, so they will give recommendations and tag brands for free in order to one day be able to do a real ad.
The internet is really the wild west of marketing.
There is really infinite space to squeeze ads into.
Our data is being bought and sold to Hell and back just to pelt us with marketing.
Sometimes it feels as though we've signed a deal with the devil in order to use these things for free and now we will just have to spend the rest of our lives being marketed too.
But now somehow on top of that, we also have to pay subscription fees as well.
You want to hear more?
Because she goes on for a bit here.
She's on a roll.
Yes, she's good.
And online, everyone and everything can eventually be bought.
The unspoken goal of the internet is to reach monetization.
Anything that reaches viral success or started off as like a genuine thing that people loved and enjoyed.
She's not, she hasn't quite gotten to the wait a minute, maybe I'm the product here.
She hasn't quite heard that one.
Eventually we'll try to sell you something.
At some point, everything becomes a vehicle for brands to sponsor or for celebrities to come on and promote something.
And a lot of the times, the platforms that we once genuinely enjoyed using, like Pinterest, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, become so clogged up with ads that it starts to feel like there are more ads than actual content.
See, this is where it goes wrong.
This is because it's free, free.
It's all free.
It's just free.
The internet is free.
No one ever taught these kids that that's that there is no free lunch.
Ain't no free lunch, kid.
I understand that we need ads to pay for things, but it reaches a certain point where it actually starts to interfere with the original purpose of the thing.
No, no, the original purpose was always to use your data to make money.
And the end result is, I think it's just reached a point where it's infiltrated all of our culture and all of our lives.
Musicians just feel like marketing projects now.
We have respected actors doing delivery ads and starting liquor companies.
Movies and TV shows start to feel like excuses for product placement and IP.
And it's made everything feel like there's an ulterior motive because there is.
But the irony of it all is I don't remember the last time an ad actually worked on me.
If anything, if I notice that a brand emails me too much or it shows up too much on my social media, I actually start to resent them.
I buy most of my stuff secondhand because honestly, a lot of new stuff is just crap.
Like the quality is really bad because I think these companies spent all their budget on marketing.
So maybe if everything is an ad, then nothing is actually an ad.
Because honestly, I've just become so overwhelmed by the amount of people that are trying to make money off me that I'm just kind of numb to it all.
I'm happy and yet sad somehow.
I'm not quite sure why.
Well, she's got some note of realization.
I don't know if she.
You're right.
She hasn't figured out that she's the product in many cases and their data is no one taught her this.
Or the no free lunch thing is what do you expect?
Listen to your uncles, Adam and John.
We boomers know a thing or two.
We've seen enough ads in our life.
We've created them.
We've created them.
And that's one of the reasons we don't have ads on this show.
We are value for value.
And that is my cue to say I'd like to thank you for your courage.
The man who put the C and can't afford the rent.
Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C tomorrow.
Yeah, the briefing of the CPZ buttography and the intercepts in the water.
And all the dames and nights out there.
Here in the morning's patrols in the patrol room.
Stop moving around.
I catch you.
Oh, actually, surprising.
1,907 for a Thanksgiving weekend.
That's not too bad.
I'm surprised.
I'm very surprised.
Although we'll whip right through the donations, that's for sure.
Yeah, there's no donations.
Nobody gave us any donations.
All we got is a bunch of ads, man.
We ain't got no donations.
We got plugs.
Everyone's got a plug.
Ah, speaking of plugs, I have something to say.
You're getting hair plugs finally.
No, So I was very against the Warren, Senator Elizabeth Warren, bull crap, over-the-air, over-the-counter hearing aids.
Oh, yes, yes, totally.
And the main reason is I feel that you need.
They're not hearing aids, and they're not done by an audiologist.
You need an audiologist to help you set it up.
And my hearing, although it got much, much better after my oral surgery, my hearing just is, I'm just, I'm aging out, bro.
I'm just, I'm aging out.
And so my hearing is not good enough.
And, you know, before you know it, Tina's not going to talk to me anymore because I don't answer.
So I have to.
But you can't hear her.
What?
Yeah, exactly.
And so I decided to try something new because my previous Y decks were very expensive.
Those were like over $5,000.
Now, this is probably seven years ago, I think, eight years ago that I got those.
So I decide, based on a tip from my friend, to try out Jabra.
And the reason I was okay trying out Jabra, one, they've been around for a long time.
They've been doing, you know, phone connections, mobile headsets for, geez, for longer than, for as long as this show's been around, I think.
Remember the Jabra headset?
One of the first with that stick microphone next to your mouth?
That was the Jabra guys.
And they have created an behind the ear with a little wire, with a little receiver going into your ear.
And they give you three years of audiology appointments.
And that's built into the price.
Which is a big deal to you, which I think that's a valid commentary.
So I was like, okay.
And the price, $1,600 with a 100-day money-back guarantee.
So I'm like, what do I have to lose?
These things are amazing.
I mean, absolutely amazing.
And I have just been enjoying my life so much with these hearing aids.
They are proper hearing aids.
Don't go for anything else because people always ask me, what hearing aids?
These things are fantastic.
I'm not getting paid by them.
I paid for my hearing aids, but this is what we do.
When we love a product, we'll talk about it.
If we don't, we'll talk about it, how crappy it is.
Amazing.
My life has changed.
It has so wait a minute.
You were giving nothing but grief to Elizabeth Warren and her being behind the changing of the definition of a hearing aid, basically what we're talking about here.
Yes.
To a listening, you know, a listening enhancing device.
Oh, they're all here.
Everything is a hearing aid now.
And so you can sell these things over the counter without anybody helping you or anything.
And you mourn and go.
And now you're changing.
Are you changing your tune?
I am.
The first few years was horrible.
And, you know, she got the big money from Bose, and Bose has yet to come out with anything worthwhile.
I track this stuff all the time.
And this miracle ear, none of, I mean, no, no, no, no.
I don't see any of that being any good.
But when I saw these, I'm like, okay, I know Jabra.
I've had Jabra headsets.
The audiology three years of appointment.
I'm like, yeah, okay.
This is now you're talking something different.
And this is high-tech stuff.
And I learned about AuraCast.
Have you ever heard of AuraCast?
I have heard of them.
So AuraCast.
So normally, so if you pair these hearing aids to a modern smartphone, which you can easily do, it's Bluetooth.
It's low energy Bluetooth.
But that's just, you know, it's just you and no one else can tap into that, obviously.
AuraCast is, I don't know when this came into being, but my new television happens to have it.
It's basically a transmitter that anybody can tap into.
And they apparently are sending, you know, the people are placing these AuraCast transmitters everywhere.
And you can connect to it right away.
Boom, you're done.
You don't need passwords, no pairing, none of that stuff.
So you can listen.
LG sets all have these features.
Yes.
And it's been fantastic.
Which is why we promoted the set, even though we got grief.
We got grief.
Oh, Mimi and one kid.
How can you be promoting a thousand?
You're always having cheap products.
And next thing you know, you got a $1,000 television set you're saying is good.
It was pretty cheap.
That's what it is.
Consider what it is.
My first TV in 13 years.
You used to have to pay $22,500 for a PC.
Yeah, really.
Anyway, back to the Jabras.
Even if you don't have hearing loss, these things are amazing.
Because you can get the closed domes.
So you plug them in your ear.
It is just like having over-the-ear headsets on all the time that you can completely control the sound.
I'm a sound freak.
So I love the sound.
It was.
Are you using them as we speak instead of cans?
No.
I did no, because the cans don't work with the hearing aids.
But I did order.
I said instead of the cans.
No, because I need an AuraCast transmitter.
It's like $35 off of Amazon.
So hopefully it'll come in before Thursday.
I can try it out because it's the same concept.
You're going to be uncomfortable without the cans.
Well, maybe, maybe not.
But I'll tell you something.
I can hear my wife.
I can hear her in the kitchen all the way from the studio.
There's a downside to everything.
Well, the downside is I'm speaking much softer in person.
Oh, you're not screaming.
Exactly.
And she said, did you hear me?
I said, yeah, I said, I'm coming.
So now she can't hear me.
So now I'll have to get her some jobbers.
Anyway, what?
Anyway, I don't know how I got to that other than, oh, we're talking about ads and value for value.
So a good product, very good value.
It's worth it for your ears, particularly for men, because there's number one cause of depression and isolationism is when you can't hear properly.
And you can take their little hearing tests on the website.
It's pretty decent.
Yeah.
So whether you're using hearing aids or not, you should be listening to us on a modern podcast app because it doesn't look like Spotify is going to approve us.
I don't think we're actually in there yet.
It says processing.
It's been doing it for 24 years.
Now they're getting picky.
Okay.
Well, good.
We can say, well, they refuse to take our feed.
Yes.
Our feed, our open feed, man.
Yeah.
However, you can use a modern podcast app, which will give you all kinds of cool features.
And even Podverse actually is built for accessibility.
So if you have vision problems, Podverse does a very good job of that.
But there's many more to be found at podcastapps.com.
As part of the value for value system, we take time, talent, and treasure in return for the valuable service that we provide.
And we have a lot of people who used to work really hard at creating artwork for us.
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Like, oh, I don't have to donate.
I prompted a little bit and gave him some art.
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But we do want to thank Jock10, J-O-Q-10, who brought us the artwork for episode 1820.
We titled that Tokyo Rose.
And this was, I think, the best one for Thanksgiving that we could find.
Abraham Lincoln carving a turkey with an American.
Yeah, this was basically your pick, which I couldn't argue against.
Yeah.
So you didn't agree, but you couldn't argue against it.
I didn't like, I mean, I wish we had something better, but it was cute.
It had an Indian.
I don't know what the point.
You know, there's an Indian ready to kill Lincoln.
I don't know what the reason for that was, but yeah.
There wasn't a lot of things.
I mean, everyone did some Thanksgiving stuff.
Yeah, but they were all lame.
They weren't really good.
No.
No.
So I don't think we even contemplated anything else, did we?
Oh, yeah.
We contemplated Jeffrey Rhea's 3D soup can, but you might want to talk about the technical issues we had with it.
Yeah, now he's going to get irked by this.
He had the curvature mapped on perfectly, you know, not perfectly, but pretty good for like for no agenda.
And Curry and Devorah kind of wraps around the can like it, you know, like a cake, like it would be for a can.
Except the word cundrum doesn't do any wrapping whatsoever.
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And why is it on the can?
We don't know.
Is it supposed to be conundrum?
That's a different word.
I don't know.
And it wasn't wrapped.
It wasn't wrapped.
Yeah, it was too bad.
Anyway, thank you very much, Jock10.
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My formula is this.
We hit people in the mouth.
How about a TikTok clip?
Okay.
How can I say no?
I can't.
I have two clips here.
I got the, I got, this is actually a black woman, although her voice is not that of what you'd think is black, but this is a woman making a good point about being cis.
Cis?
Yes, like a cis gender.
I'm cis.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes, cis.
Not a cis woman.
I'm a woman.
Yes.
You say trans women are women, but then women become cis women as if we're a subtype of our own sex.
That's right.
And then you have the audacity to drag the very women that you're trying to emulate.
How is that not the most misogynistic, patriarchal logic imaginable?
How is it that my identity suddenly just needs a prefix?
Why do women have to shift their language, their boundaries, their spaces, so everyone else can feel comfortable except actual women?
If a woman says, hey, I'm not comfortable with this, suddenly she's the problem.
I don't need a new label to describe what I've always been.
Like, like.
Right on, Sisa.
Great.
I'm going to comment.
You're so good.
Yeah, great, great channel.
You've got great TikTok.
Oh, you're a good TikToker.
Yeah, you made me feel good.
Good point.
Well, then we take it to the other extreme.
Oh, you're going to play two TikTokers?
Yeah, here's the other extreme.
This is the idiot billionaires.
I have an idea.
How about some of our billionaires get together and offer to buy back assault weapons or semi-automatic weapons?
And since they have so much money, they can give the money to the gun owners and then melt down the weapons.
I don't know if you've noticed a lot of the billionaires that we're very tired of hearing about, you know, they don't really do much for philanthropy.
They just like hoard their wealth.
So maybe this would be a good way for them to solve a problem which leads to the number one cause of death in children, which of course is gun violence.
No, I think vocal fry is the number one cause of death amongst parties.
No, there is no billionaire.
I know a few who hoard their money.
No.
No, absolutely not.
But you said it, she said, that's great.
Nice, nice performance.
Let's do a little climate change news.
In this case, EVs.
2026 is the end of the government subsidies for electric vehicles.
The EV market says it's going to be great.
And I'm thinking, yeah, if you want a cheap car with a dead battery, listen to these prices.
What happens in just two years to the value of your electric vehicle?
As the clock ticked on the expiration of EV tax credits in September, there was a wave of last-minute buyers.
Since then, new electric auto sales across the board have plummeted nearly 50% last month.
I think in the next probably six months, the market will get stabilized and really trying to find that balance of what's that natural demand for EVs.
Stephanie Valdez-Streaty is a director for Cox Automotive, which provides marketing data for the automotive industry.
I think the used EV market is the bright star.
For example, new Rivian trucks can cost north of $100,000, but you can get a used one for south of $60,000.
A new Tesla Model Y averages around $50,000, but 2024s can be found for around $30,000.
She says currently EVs only account for about 2.5% of the overall used vehicle sales market.
But she says since 2023, 1.1 million EVs have been leased and many will expire soon.
That surge of expiring leases is bringing used prices down and allowing for big bargains.
I think it's going to be a huge opportunity and huge growth engine in the next few years.
Valdez Streety says wider EV adoption has been hindered by price, battery concerns, and trepidation about an insufficient charging infrastructure.
But she stresses batteries are really good and warranties are robust.
Oh, they're good.
That technology will only improve and likely bring costs down even further, especially in the new car sales markets.
And so the next 2028.
What?
What was the logic there?
Things have resale value that goes down drastically, but somehow it's not going.
It's going to be better.
Here's that tale.
That technology will only improve and likely bring costs down even further, especially in the new car sales markets.
And so the next 27, 2028, we're going to see some more affordable EVs hit the market.
Yeah.
Everyone's going to be dumping BYD.
Yeah.
Well, can they some of those BYD cars look at fantastic, but they're made like crap.
They're glued together.
The BYD cars is inexpensive.
Yes.
And yeah, it probably doesn't hold up, or maybe it does, but they've got some of the fanciest cars anybody owns.
Are you going to buy one?
No, I think it's electric.
The battery, you're basically buying a dead battery.
That's the problem.
The battery.
And you have to lug the battery around.
It's not like a gasoline car as it drives around.
It gets lighter and lighter.
It gets lighter.
You know what is cool, though?
They're finally figuring out for all of, because every day someone sends me an email.
Look at this.
The flying car is finally here.
I'm like, oh, that looks cool.
There's always a flying car.
They look at it and it's like range.
You can fly for 20 minutes at 50 miles an hour.
Okay, so I can't get to Austin with that.
But there's a couple of them now.
Let alone get back.
The couple of them now are figuring out the hybrid model.
We are using electric motors for propellers and actually placing them in front of a wing.
So you're blowing back air so these things can take off like five feet.
And then they have a little jet engine in it or something that runs similar.
That sounds cheap.
No, these are very small.
All it has to do is just send electricity to the battery and then from the battery into the propellers.
These things, they're talking about two hours at 130 miles an hour.
Now you're talking.
That's got to go for 150 or higher.
Oh, no, no, no.
You know, no, you can invest now.
250.
Pre-order now.
Yeah, sure.
Pre-order and invest.
I think maybe in five years we might, because it's absolutely true.
The electric motors is a lot, you know, the whole concept of it is good.
It's just we don't have any batteries.
So as long as you throw in some kind of energy source that runs on, you know, gasoline, jet fuel, jet fuel, anything like that.
This is one guy, though, he made a, it's like a flying egg.
It's like a pod.
And it was going to go for like a little over $100,000.
And it's just a one-seater and has all these propellers on top.
And it's supposed to be able to go, I think they were saying radius 100 miles.
I'm like, wow, that's kind of cool.
And the guy was going to fly over the English Channel from England to France, crashed in the water.
Oh, the engines quit.
So he cracked up.
Yes.
Ah, yes.
There it is.
He cracked up.
Exactly.
I only have one more sequence here, which is there's something up here.
Sources inside the Pentagon are reporting something just horrible.
This is A, an attack on our Secretary of War, Hegseth, and also another setup for the impeachment.
What happened, John?
This was the first strike on what they say were suspected drug cartels or drug dealers or people ferrying drugs to the United States.
There was a first strike.
Most of the people on board that boat were killed.
And then there was a second strike.
The administration released the footage of that first strike, but never, as the Post reported, that second strike.
And it's that second strike, they say, that Secretary Pete Hegseth said a spoken directive to kill everybody.
Now, the Special Operations Commander, according to the Post, ordered that second strike based on direction from Pete Hegseth.
But the questions are: did Pete Hegseth in the moment, in real time, as they were watching, say, go back and kill those survivors?
Because when you look at it, is that an imminent threat?
Even if it's the legal justification the administration is talking about, did those two men clinging to the side of the boat pose an imminent threat?
And that is the question.
And did it go back up the chain of command?
Did the special operations commander say, wait, we need the lawyers.
We need somebody to look at that.
Those are the questions.
Because the allegation here is that it violates the rules of war to attack people that are not an imminent threat.
Exactly.
And the protocol was later changed because we have since tried to rescue survivors.
So that's another question they'll be asking.
And it's important to point out that, according to the Post story, Hegseth issued that order before the first strike, say, kill everybody, and the commander- And that is why the question is, did he go back to Pete Hegseth?
Because according to the Post, they were all watching this in real time.
Where were you, Jonathan Carl?
Where were you when we were literally double-tapping Iraqis from helicopters on video released by Snowden and the Assange?
And those are Assange.
Assange, Assange and the man who became a woman.
What was his name?
Yeah.
The woman guy.
Yes.
From now known as that woman guy.
Where were you when we had actual evidence of that happening?
You can probably still find that on YouTube.
Where were you then?
Yeah.
Good question.
Because the Cavalier chat from the helicopter goes, hey, there's the guy's the journalist.
Let's get him.
Yeah, Chelsea Manning.
They shoot him.
They gunned him down from the sky from a distance.
The man guy known as Chelsea.
And that's not even talking about the double taps, which were also killing innocents.
Not only killing innocents, but people who came to their rescue.
That's not mentioned either.
Nope.
And by the way, where's the tape of Hegseth saying this or doing?
There's no sources.
There's no evidence.
We have evidence of the other stuff.
We have sources inside the Pentagon from the Washington Post here, CBS.
This new Washington Post report that says that Secretary Hegseth called for everyone aboard the first suspected drug boat that was targeted to be killed when two people survived.
The military went back in reportedly with a follow-on strike.
What questions do you have for the Pentagon about that situation?
Well, first, if that reporting is true, it's a clear violation of the DOD's own laws of war, as well as international laws about the way you treat people who are in that circumstance.
And so this rises to the level of a war crime, if it's true.
And the questions that we've been asking for months are: give us the evidence that the folks on board were really narco-traffickers.
In one instance, there were two survivors, one Colombian, one Ecuadoran, in a different strike.
Instead of arresting them and prosecuting them, the U.S. picked them up and returned them to their countries of origin where they were released.
So if they were narco-traffickers, why would we do that?
We need more evidence about that.
And we definitely need the administration to finally answer the question of why strike rather than interdict.
If you know where the ships are, you can interdict.
And when you do, you get evidence.
You get individuals.
You can squeeze them to give testimony against their higher-ups.
You get evidence with the drug seizures.
And finally, the other question that my colleagues and I are deeply worried about is the entire legal rationale for these strikes.
We had to pry with a crowbar after weeks and weeks out of the administration the supposed legal rationale for the strikes in international waters.
It was very shoddy because it's classified.
I can't tell you what's in it, but I can tell you it was not at all persuasive that these are illegal.
Wait a minute.
Well, that's Senator Tim Tim Kaine.
Okay, so he has access to that, I guess.
And so together with a whole series of things, the early retirement of the head of Southcom, the news that the Southcom's lead attorney said these strikes were not lawful, the decision of allies like the U.K. to stop sharing intelligence with the United States in this area because they believe the strikes are illegal.
It's time for Congress to rein in a president who is deciding to wage war on his own say-so, which is not what the Constitution allows.
And of course, they hate that they're blowing up the drugs and possibly money to be laundered.
They don't like any of that at all.
They continue.
On a related note, President Trump just announced this weekend that he plans to pardon for.
Who cares?
I have a Venezuela clip in the same vein.
I was going to play Christy Noam's response to the question about the double tap from Hag Seth.
Here it is.
There's a Washington Post report that one of those Venezuelan boats that was attacked by a U.S. missile alleged drug boats, that a second missile was launched because there have been two survivors clinging to the wreckage of the boat.
I know this was obviously carried out by the Defense Department, but is the administration concerned here that that may have violated the laws of war?
I mean, was there an imminent threat by those people that were clinging to the wreckage of a boat that had already been struck?
Is there a wiki page for the laws of war?
I'll have to look that up.
Let me see where I can find that.
Yeah, see where you find it.
Yeah.
You should know this.
That entire story is based on anonymous sources.
So we see the press and we see that rag use anonymous sources all the time to print things that aren't true, that are lies, that are completely not based in reality.
So I would not put any credibility to that story, to what was said.
I have full faith and trust in this president and in this government to do the right thing to keep the American people safe.
And I'm so grateful at the amount of work that has been done to stop those deadly drugs from getting into our country.
Just in several offloads that we've been able to interdict and to stop and to blow up in the Caribbean Sea, it's been enough to save over 45 million people.
45 million lethal doses were completely destroyed, that people will now be safer because of the work that the Department of War and this president have done.
Okay, thanks, Chrissy.
There is a wiki page for law of war, part of the international law that regulates the conditions for initiating war and the conduct of hostilities.
Laws of war define sovereignty and nationhood, states and territories, occupation, other critical terms of law.
De jure.
Declarations, acceptance of sovereignty.
Oh, sovereignty.
You mean like within the boundaries of a sovereign nation where the Obama administration kept blowing things up within Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Yes.
Iraq, I think, was another place.
Yes, that's what I mean.
That's exactly what I mean.
Interesting that nobody even brings that up.
I had the one little Venezuela rap clip.
It's an NPR.
They're good to go.
After weeks of escalating tensions, President Trump increased pressure on Venezuela today by declaring that the nation's airspace should be considered closed, even though he doesn't have the legal authority to close it.
With a substantial U.S. military buildup in the region, today's announcement fuels speculation about what's next.
Earlier this week, Mr. Trump said his war on drug smuggling would soon enter a new phase.
And in recent weeks, you've been working to deter Venezuelan drug traffickers, of which there are many.
And we'll be starting to stop them by land also.
The land is easier, but that's going to start very soon.
We'd warn them, stop sending poison to our country.
Since September, U.S. forces have struck nearly two dozen boats alleged to be carrying drugs in the Caribbean and the Eastern Pacific, killing an estimated 80 people.
Venezuelan President Nicolos Maduro says his country will defend itself against any foreign threat.
I'm just going to wager that by land means they're going to get that base going in Guiana, which Venezuela has said they're claiming, which is our oil because we have the contract.
That's what I think on land means.
It could be.
I don't think it's going to send troops into Venezuela, but I think that's what he means.
We'll see.
I have one final thing that I just wanted to mention.
It's hard to avoid the Candace Owens ongoing red string diaries.
There's only, and I'm not going to wait.
Well, just she's stringing red yarn between all kinds of different points.
Okay.
And I don't listen to her show.
Well, so the one thing that she's like, Egyptian Air Force jet came into Provo, Utah, stayed there for an hour.
Interesting.
What were they doing?
Were they just getting gas?
Were they dropping someone off?
This is in reference to Egyptian Air Force operatives killing Charlie Kirk.
So I just.
Oh my God.
Oh, yeah.
That's a stretch.
Oh, no.
They turned off their transponder and they first landed Minot Air Force Base, which is a nuclear air force base.
So yes.
I'd like to explain what the Egyptian Air Force is doing, landing in Minot and then going to Provo.
They're an Egyptian Air Force, and it's Gulfstream.
I think they have a four, and I think they have the tri-engine.
Forget the name of it.
So they come from Paris.
What?
It's a Ford.
It's not a Ford.
A Ford triplane.
No, it's not.
No, it's a French aircraft.
No.
But it's mainly the Gulf Streams.
So they fly from Paris to Minot airport because they are a military outfit and they get cleared into the U.S. And to fly on to any other place through Minot.
That's what Minot is doing.
Why Provo?
Because Duncan Aviation is one of the is only one of three premier Gulfstream Maintenance shops.
You want to go to Duncan Aviation for modifications, repairs, inspections, etc.
And they just so happen to have contracts with the Egyptian military.
That's what they're doing in Provo, Utah.
So just want to dispel one little rumor.
Well, you're going to be digging a lot if you're going to try to dispel all the stuff that she puts out there.
I have nothing to dispel, but this one, I happen to know aviation.
So I'm like, no, this is, they're not going to drop someone off to kill Charlie Kirk.
They're getting the toilet seat replaced.
Give me a break.
What is Egyptians got to do with Charlie Kirk or why would they care?
Well, you got to watch.
They have to bring in a hitman from Egypt.
Yes.
Are you kidding me?
Yes.
They had plenty in Rhode Island.
This is the level.
This is the level it's come to.
All right.
You got anything to leave or you want to leave it at that?
It seems like anything kind of funny.
Yeah, this is just kind of interesting.
This genetic pumpkin is a short clip.
And I just thought it was possible.
Sorry.
I just thought it was interesting that this is how you're getting these giant pumpkins.
Gardeners across the globe attempt to claim the title of the world's largest pumpkin.
It's a serious sport for many.
It's even created a bizarre online market for seeds with outlandish genetics.
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I'm Anissa Khalifa.
And on this episode of The Broadside from WUNC, we explore the science, the glory, and the drama of competitive giant pumpkin growing.
Just Saturday, a new world record was established.
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I am.
We also have John's Tip of the Day coming up.
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Yes, we do have a meetup.
We actually have a meetup report, which is nice.
We got one in.
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I have a feeling this is a layaway.
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I don't know why he wants that.
Lukewarm tequila doesn't sound good.
Sounds like a one-way ticket to the toilet, as far as I'm concerned.
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I think we just put in an order for a whole new bunch of them, which is always complicated because everyone has a different size.
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We got people with size 13 ring.
Did I see that?
That's a big finger.
You muted yourself.
So whatever you said, whatever funny quip you had was completely missed.
And you're still muted.
Well, anyway, I guess John will come back when he's ready.
In the meantime, let's take a look at the No Agenda meetup.
Yes, yes.
I muted myself because during the nighting and then you go off to the meetings, it gives me an opportunity to go to the bathroom.
Normally, I don't mute myself, but I did this time because I also had to blow my nose.
And every time I do that in the mic, it sounds stupid.
So I muted myself, and I don't see any reason until after you're done that you could call me out on it.
No agenda.
John was having his own little private meetup.
We'll talk about the public meetups that you can find at noagendameetups.com.
We have a report.
This is the Wacheningen meetup in the Netherlands.
Sounds like they have some wacky backy.
Soon to be, sir, yeah.
In the morning.
Sure, Doris, I need some job karma.
So who's good?
Stay safe.
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Happy Center class next week.
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Who will give word to the waitress?
Hello.
In the morning.
In the morning.
Putting the waitress on the spot there.
Thank you very much.
Sounds like you guys had a good time.
There is a meetup taking place today in Coleta, California, the Goleta, California, the Goleta HGI rooftop meetup.
That's the 805 rooftop meetup.
It kicks off at 4 o'clock.
Dame Beth, maybe it's her own rooftop.
And on Thursday, oh, no, these are both Thursday.
I'm sorry.
Not today.
Thursday.
Pre-St. Nicholas Day or Thanksgiving part due.
Yes, December 5th is when St. Nicholas comes in Holland and he puts candy in the kids' shoes.
Doesn't he have some helpers with him?
Yes, he has the black peats.
And if you've been a bad kid, they stick you in a bag and they take you back to Spain.
And this is very controversial because of it being racist.
Racist.
No, black peats are very racist because they're black and they're white people in blackface.
And so now we have rainbow peats.
We have rainbow peats.
We don't have black peats anymore.
Is that official?
Not official, but if you walk around in blackface as a black peat, you'll get beat up.
By who?
By the Pete Patrol.
I don't know.
There's always riots going on about this.
There are always people demonstrating against the black peats.
They've been doing it for hundreds of years, but okay.
So that's the pre-St. Nicholas Day Thanksgiving part due.
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Very easy and always a party.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You to be where you want me.
Triggered all hell aim.
You to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
And there was a jobs karma someone needed there.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's go for jobs.
All righty then.
Before we get to the tip of the day, we always want to check in with some ISOs, see what we can do.
This is Man Against the Machine is what this is.
It's my ISOs against your AI stuff.
Your AI.
But this is just a matter of time.
Until what?
To you cave.
I don't know.
You have the subscription.
You can do a lot of creative stuff with 11 labs if you pay money.
Yeah.
Well, I'll give you some real.
I'll give you three months.
Okay, here's my first real one.
It doesn't get better than that.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
That's unusual.
Oh, that makes a whole lot of sense.
Yeah.
Cute.
Okay.
Okay.
Interesting.
Not bad at all.
Yeah, I don't know.
Here's my final one.
This came down to the wire.
You don't like any of them?
Well, I like the second one.
And the last one, I don't understand what that's got to do with the price of bread and why they decided to do it.
That makes a whole lot of sense.
Wait, that was the second one?
I think that was the second.
Yeah, I thought that was okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let's see what you prompted.
What?
What is your?
Let's go with best.
It's true.
These guys are the best of breed.
Okay.
Better?
The show just keeps getting better.
Yes.
And then man oh, man.
Man, oh, man, oh, man, oh, man.
What a podcast.
Yeah, that's probably the best one.
Can't you just use a different voice?
Okay, I was waiting for this.
Of course.
You need a different voice.
No, no, I'm telling you, here's the deal.
This is the voice I lost.
They took the voice away from me.
This is not a good voice.
It's lame.
I love this guy's voice.
This is Caleb Spuds, they call him Spuds.
Anyone out there, you can look him up.
And so I lost the voice.
And so I got him back.
And I think I'm going to switch him out again.
But I figured that as soon as I switch him out, he's going to, they're going to, I'm going to have to eventually pay money for 11 labs.
And what's going to happen if I pay money, that means I'm going to start sampling my own voices.
And you're going to get Alex Jones and you're going to get Tucker and you're going to get all these different kinds of things because I'll go nuts.
And I'm trying to avoid that.
And you should be encouraging me to avoid it because you know it's not going to be positive things.
Okay.
Just so you know, if you want to sample your own voice, it's more than $20.
You got to get a pro subscription.
And you can only sample one voice and you have to verify it's your voice.
You can't just feed Tucker and make it do Tucker.
So don't get all excited.
Oh, wait a minute.
Ryan out there, who's sampled all a lot of voices, he's got everybody's voice.
I don't know who Ryan is.
Ryan's one of our producers who produced the he's the one who produced this Scott Simon thing you play all the time.
Scott Honk Honk Simon.
Yeah.
And he's got Simon and he's got Scott Simon.
He's got a bunch of them.
He's got a whole list.
He sent me a laundry list of voices.
I've had a few sampled here and there.
How did he do it?
So how's he doing?
I don't know.
Why are you asking me?
Ask your buddy.
I don't know.
I don't know anything.
What I do know is it's time for John's tip of the day.
Great mess for you and me.
Just the chip with JCD.
And sometimes at all.
Okay, this is not a, this is a, I think is a great tip because I've gone through these alarm clocks for years.
Alarm clock tip.
Alarm clock.
Not everybody needs one.
Some people just wake up.
How about your phone?
Oh, I'm not going to let a phone be my alarm clock.
This is an alarm clock.
Yeah, the phone.
No.
So this is an FM radio alarm clock, and it's got a temperature gauge.
It does all kinds of stuff.
It's got a battery backup.
The battery backup, which if your phone battery goes dead, you don't have a battery backup.
Let me start with that.
Oh, we plug it in next to our bed, man.
You got FA radio on that?
The problem with the phone is you're that means you have to answer the phone at three in the morning.
No, you put it.
No, you put it on silent.
Do not disturb.
By the way, does it have a shortwave on that clock radio?
The cell phone is the Satan's tool.
I'm not going to disagree with you on that point.
So, yes, alarm clock.
Yes, it's called the Dream Sky Alarm Clock Radio for Bedrooms.
It's a small device.
It's dynamite.
It works.
It doesn't change the time like some of these other cheap Chinese clocks.
So it's $18.
It's on sale tomorrow on Amazon.
Wow.
It's cheap.
It works great.
It's got a perfect alarm.
You can do all kinds of little things with it to set it right.
And it's got a battery backup so it doesn't go dead if the power goes out.
And Dream Sky makes a ton of different display modules with all kinds of clocks.
And you might want to look at their website.
I like the kind that display the time on the ceiling.
Have you ever seen those?
They may have one of those too.
I like it.
They have their big, big because it's too much work to roll over and actually look at the clock.
Does it have an outdoor time?
Oh, there it is.
Does it have an outdoor thermometer in it?
I mean, this sounds like this.
No, it doesn't.
It has an indoor thermometer, but an outdoor thermometer would be useful.
Okay, what's a cheap little clock that works great and it doesn't lose time?
It's a great stocking stuffer.
It is, actually.
That's a good point.
Yes.
What is the brand again?
Of all things, classic Chinese name, Dream Sky.
DreamSky, best price.
There it is.
Find all of his tips at tipoftheday.net for John's tip of the day.
Christmas for you and me.
Just the chip with JCD and sometimes atom.
Created by Dana Bernetti.
You're killing me.
That was a good tip.
I may get one of those just as a stocking stuffer.
Hey, baby.
Merry Christmas.
You'd be like, it's very small.
It's a perfect stop for stocking stuff.
What is this?
What is this?
I don't get it.
Did you not get the links I sent you?
What is this?
This is no good.
All right, everybody, that concludes our broadcast day here on the No Agenda Show.
But stay tuned to the No Agenda stream for the Millennial Media Offensive.
We'd love those kids.
Episode 195 is coming up, so you can stay tuned for that.
And of course, we'll be back on Thursday with more wattage for your cottage, as Darren O'Neal would say.
Remember to check in early so you can listen to the rock and roll pre-show.
End of show mixes from, let's see, we got MVP and Mellow D. That's right.
Two wrapped around a real one is beautiful.
Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas, which is Christmas Central.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
All right.
Check in with us again on Thursday for all the media deconstruction.
And remember us at NoAgendadonations.com.
Until then, adios, mofos, a hoooey hooey, and such.
The clock.
Five seconds.
Two.
One.
The cart is empty.
The card is ready.
It's Cyber Monday.
Ticket, click it, click.
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The offer flies.
The urgency strangles my cries.
Discount, discount, discount.
I want the drone, the smartphone, the TV screen, the finest winter coat.
Everything, everything mine right now.
The broadband at last begins to sway.
The page won't load, it won't shine today.
A 404 era, a nightmare, the server screams.
The firewall trembles while my poor mouse enters a deep crisis.
The goods are vanishing, sold out, gone.
No, no, it cannot end like this, all alone.
But wait, a sound of digital chime.
A signal perfect, just in time.
My miner pulses, the hash rate is high.
The Bitcoin machine is reaching the sky.
A book is found, a treasure I've earned.
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to the checkout with That's his mugshot back then, including a chief of staff.
Yuri Pro-Kremlin and pro-Putin stamp.
Donald Putin.
Steve Witkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the Chase, with Ukraine, held a phone conversation five minutes back on October 14th, according to this transcript, with Yuri Ushakov.
Now, Yuri Mushakov is Vladimir Putin's top foreign policy advisor.
Now, the call, when you read the transcript, reads not like one-side man representing U.S. interests in this plan, trying to get the best deal for Russia and Ukraine.
On the other side, the Russians trying to get their own best interests.
It almost sounds like a coach talk, a pep talk.
Witkoff is trying to give Ushakov.
He's basically saying, We need to work together to get this peace deal undone.
Yuri Yuri.
in kentucky came air force too The vice president arrived beneath the flags of freedom where the spirit is alive.
He shook a hand, he signed a cap.
He talked about the nation.
Then he dropped a truth bomb in the middle of the station.
He looked upon the soldiers, brave and strong and true.
And he told them his young American view.
Folks, let's be honest, turkey doesn't taste that great.
It tastes a lot like booty.
It's tradition on a platter.
It's with served upon the plate.
It's land-dry Philly, only eat it out of duty.
A symbol of his giving, but not a savory beauty.
He told the troops that Fort Campbell, the deep fry rule is sound.
If you got a dunk in oil, it ain't the best meat around.
He said it's not that good.
Most people don't like it one little bit.
He said, announcing he actually thinks it tastes like a word that rhymes with spit.
But maybe he was right.
Yeah, far right.
Let's give him a burn and see if he'll burn.
Let's go screaming, eagles.
Let's get us all illegals.
Let's go screaming, eagles.
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