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1795 - "Dead Feathered"

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	Physical activity is now a medical condition.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, August 31st, 2025.
	This is your award-winning Give On Nation Media Assassination episode 1795.
	This is No Agenda.
	Working on a holiday and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I keep wondering why X or Twitter keeps sending me ads to use butter on ice cream.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Wait a minute, so you're getting ads to use butter ads what what is the ad for if it's an ad i don't click on it i refuse to click on it's stupid it keeps it has a little it's an obvious ad it keeps cropping up oh here's why you should put butter on ice cream i'm sure other people have seen this i'm surprised you know i have i don't see any ads on uh on x are you paying not to get get ads no no i got the blue check mark just because i got the blue check mark i get ads you
	know so here's what i get on x all right so you know whenever i uh fire off the bat signal i send out the tweet and i boost the toot and I slash the X and I whine on the blue cry.
	And then I go to X because Darren always has a cute way of retweeting or reposting, whatever we call it.
	And so I'll repost his repost.
	And right there's from Crumulant Corpse, a one-liner, You make this show my favorite hateless and you insufferable douche.
	John's great though.
	Yeah.
	You insufferable douche.
	That's a great line.
	I've gotten some amazing messages.
	This was another one.
	From Jeff.
	Adam, I've been listening to your show every week for at least ten years and been donating $15 a month for at least ten years with auto pay.
	You obviously have my full attention.
	If you're this is a true value for value person.
	I so.
	I finally need to give you this feedback.
	Please stop using terms like bullcrap.
	Just I'm the only one who does that.
	That's me.
	Just swear and talk like normal people talk.
	It is un.
	I swear we try to avoid that.
	It is unlikely that young kids are listening to your show.
	It completely is not true.
	We know for a fact that young kids are l listen to the show.
	A lot of disease.
	It completely dulls the tone when you sanitize language in that way.
	And it sounds forced and awkward.
	I'm telling you, this guy is friggin' nuts.
	Every other podcast out there uses colorful language, which is part of the fun of podcasts.
	John sneaks in an F bomb once in a while, and honestly, it's refreshing.
	I don't even know why I show up to the show.
	It seems like you're the guy.
	You're just the guy.
	Everybody loves you.
	You're the guy.
	You get to a certain age and you know, you know, that's what it is.
	You're getting there.
	Yeah, I'll be 61 on the 61st.
	Wednesday.
	Thank you.
	If you need to know.
	Yes, Wednesday.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Wednesday.
	Yes, on Wednesday.
	Yes, Wednesday, you will be 61.
	So we went to a birthday party yesterday, which was actually quite cool.
	There's this new wine.
	There's a new winery, and they have a tasting room called Bully B.U.L.I.
	Now the guy's a New Yorker, but I think he lives in Tuscany at least half of the time, maybe full-time, has a vineyard there.
	But they're Texas wines, you know, the typical Tempranillo, et cetera.
	And it was a birthday party for the Burger Heiress.
	We've talked, have we talked about the Burger Heiress?
	Yeah.
	Well, I think we talked about it after the show.
	Oh, well, the Burger.
	The problem that we discussed about talking about stuff.
	Yes.
	The heiress, she's the heiress to Burger King.
	Burger King, yes.
	She was, she literally grew up in.
	Jump right in when you need me.
	She literally grew up in the home of the Whopper.
	And her dad, I don't think he started it, but he commercialized it.
	So this same guy who owned the Miami Dolphins and I don't know.
	So anyway, she's, she's very sweet., she and her Cajun husband, and she just turned seventy.
	And, and, by the way, her birthday is also on September 3.
	So we have a kinship.
	And, uh, And I was like, I'm looking around this party and two things I noticed.
	One, they had napkins that said happy seventy birthday.
	And I'm like, when I turn seventy, there will be no napkins that have the number on it.
	That's just not okay.
	At a certain point, was this a paper napkin that was printed?
	Yes, paper, printed paper napkins.
	Okay, they could probably buy those somewhere.
	Okay.
	The other thing was, dude, her friends, like Susie looks great, but they're not.
	But there was some just really old, old, I mean just I'm like holy crap, is that gonna be us in ten years?
	I think somehow we're just gonna look better, I hope.
	Peptides.
	Keep us keep us keep us keep away from low tea.
	I'm going for a tea panel, actually.
	Had a whole conversation about it last night at dinner.
	I was like, okay, okay, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go.
	You probably should get, I mean, that Rogan uses the stuff and he's not old enough really.
	And it's all, you know, it's uh it has its uh it's benefits yeah well it's good for sex it's actually more good for sales who knows what's serious well whoa whoa hold on a second what do you mean what do you mean better for sales I had a doctor, a doctor friend who put me on some tea for a while because he was a nut about it and said, you ought to try this.
	I got a prescription.
	I use it for a while.
	Then I haven't been able to get it for some time because of the current doctors I have.
	Oh, they don't want to give it.
	Oh, boy.
	But no matter what.
	But I noticed that if you use it occasionally, because there's studies done about race car drivers and how their testosterone increases.
	And as it increases during a race, they also get more daring.
	And the main thing that, which is somewhat dangerous, because you can go nuts.
	But the thing that I noticed explicitly is that the libido increases to such an extent.
	that that's basically all it is.
	And once you start to achieve that, you can figure out, oh, how do I get to that feeling you can do without the testosterone but it increases your ability to do sales what i'm telling you it does and what sale what sales are you doing on the side that i'm unaware of but no this goes way back when i when i was experimenting with this this is the time i took you to fringal and sold you on making me vice president of evio you you were jacked on tea oh now i well it worked it worked
	totally worked smooth as silk smooth as silk uh yeah i took pity on you old man what are you talking about i was just being nice like.
	Like, ah, let's get the guide.
	Whatever, dude.
	Whatever.
	Technique.
	Whatever.
	He doesn't care.
	It's all just technique.
	He doesn't care.
	Well, since we're talking about big pharma, oh man, the pharmaceutical industrial complex is out in full force.
	Every single where they can go, they need to let you know that this anti-vaxer, this Kennedy is no good.
	He's a he's a nut job.
	He's an anti-vaxer.
	He's crazy.
	He's going to kill your children.
	And here is the offending, offending statement from RFK Jr.
	I would say this, first of all.
	Well, I will confirm that we let go Susan Minarres yesterday.
	I'm not going to talk about personnel issues, but the CDC is an agency that is very troubled for a very long time.
	And anybody who lived through the COVID pandemic and saw all of these bizarre recommendations that were not science-based, all the misinformation, understands that the CDC has on its website today.
	that among the top 10 medical innovations, greatest medical accomplishments in history was abortion.
	This is one of the greatest medical accomplishments because it keeps small families.
	Go to the website.
	look at floridation giving kids a toxin and vaccines oh There's a lot of trouble at CDC and it's going to require getting rid of some people over the long term in order for us to change the institutional culture and bring back pride and self-esteem and make that agency the stellar agency that it's always been.
	I'm very confident in the political staff that we have down there now that they're going to be able to accomplish that and ensure the competent functionality of that agency.
	How about changing the website for starters?
	That might be an idea.
	Abortion.
	You're the boss.
	Why is the website say all this crap?
	Number one, medical innovation, abortion.
	That is ghoulish.
	Medical innovation.
	By the way, have you ever played, looked at 11 labs?
	11 labs?
	Yeah, I use 11.
	That's what I use for my guys when I use my, when I do voices.
	So running Bobby the op through the voice isolator.
	which is typically meant to remove background, song, music, or whatever, really enhances his speech.
	This was much worse.
	And I ran it through that.
	I was like, wow.
	I ran it through that and I was like, wow, this is, this is working.
	I can understand him much better.
	Interesting.
	So anyway, yeah, change the website would be our Curry DeVoire Consulting Group recommendation, but no, no, that, no, no, we have to go and just see what the pharmaceutical industry is doing because they know that their days are probably limited on television advertising.
	They are flooding the market with influencers of everything.
	Curry, you have this thesis.
	I saw you promoted it in an email.
	It wasn't promoting, it was just someone.
	I know you were working, you were wood shopping.
	You were shopping wood shopping.
	Woods.
	Woods.
	Woodworking.
	Woods.
	I was wood shopping.
	He was wood shopping.
	Yes, of course.
	Of course.
	Everybody's an influencer.
	Are you kidding me?
	Everything is.
	How's an influencer going to kind of going to promote Ryzealous or some of these crazy drugs that they push out?
	Oh, you watch.
	just watch.
	I mean, it's like, um, Eczema.
	Yeah.
	I'm looking at that.
	You go to school.
	I mean, it's great.
	Now, of course.
	And they're going to have to pass, you know, they have a law that you can't do these commercials without saying you were you're being paid so if they if these are being paid these influencers are being paid to promote promote uh eczema drugs yeah are they going to have to do the disclaimer well they should well let me give you an example of a of an influencer a very famous influencer clearly paid not not like he took a check directly It came through
	another avenue and went into a separate bank account, but he can use it for certain things.
	This is the number one medical influencer out there on the internet today.
	Thanks very much for joining meining me.
	Dangerously, President Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy are wreaking havoc on our already broken and dysfunctional healthcare system.
	I love the slogan.
	It's a great slogan.
	Make America healthy again.
	Fantastic.
	Unfortunately, the Trump administration is doing just the opposite.
	You don't make America healthy by throwing 15 million people off the healthcare they have, which is what Trump's big, beautiful bill does.
	You don't make America healthy by, as a result of these Medicaid cuts, shutting down or creating a decline in services for hundreds of nursing homes, community health centers and hospitals throughout the country.
	He's still on script.
	But it gets even worse than that.
	No, here we go.
	Secretary Kennedy has just fired the head of the CDC, Dr. Susan Monarez, who has been on the job for just a few weeks.
	No, dodge the bullet, I'd say.
	Her crime?
	Well, she refused to be a rubber stamp for Kennedy's anti-vaccine conspiracy theories.
	That is her crime.
	That's why she was fired.
	How's that worse?
	Well, the rubber stamp is the key, but wait for it, the influencer part is coming.
	He got he was given the line he's going to pay it off.
	In other words, she believes what virtually the entire medical and scientific community believe and that is that vaccines are an enormously important public health tool which protect the health and welfare of our children and all Americans.
	It is a bit absurd to have to say this in the year 2025.
	But let me say it.
	Vaccines are safe and effective.
	Hit it again.
	Hit it again, brother.
	Let me say it again.
	it again vaccines are safe and effective okay third time come on bernie vaccines are safe and effective so first of all if she loves saving children so much i don't think the number one medical innovation should be abortion on her website it's not saving it that's saving children for a for a jar of formaldehyde for a rainy day so but this is this whole thing is very confusing because
	it's really about the the myrna the mrna vaccine that's and specifically the covid vaccine and how long and by the way for people didn't know that was bernie sanders some people didn't know it funny enough yeah yeah it's pretty hard not to catch that voice but he uh that that this repeating safe and effective over and over again is the big lie it's a huge lie it's a huge that those vaccines
	were never safe and they were definitely not effective and he and he also threw in there that um uh the rubber stamp that's that's part of the meme and uh what else did he throw in there rubber stamp yeah anyway i mean it is a meme but i don't know they're gonna use it so that's you know she wouldn't rubber stamp his vaccine policy so the vaccine oh yeah the other lie was 15 million people gonna lose their health care not true oh yeah that's yeah you know and and and
	the extrapolation of that lie is all these rural hospitals will have to close well the first would have to be true for the second to be true and the first one is not true yes some people may have to if you're on disability but you can actually do work or if you're a stay-at-home mom, you may, there's some stipulations.
	And the problem is the states have to make up for the difference.
	Everyone's up in arms.
	But specifically mRNA, which I think we can say was not one hundred percent safe and was not one hundred percent effective.
	And Bobby Kennedy has continuously said that, you know, some vaccines are good, not the ones with thimerosol, not the, you know, which is mercury, he's against this early administration of it.
	Certainly hepatitis B to a newborn seems insane.
	But now, this is almost like, whoa, how did this happen?
	Because he's focused specifically on mRNANA.
	Now people, the people who are supposed to be promoting all vaccines are confused.
	In particular, doctor Jotes.
	Listen to what he now says about the safe and effective vaccines.
	And instead he's pushing this idea of whole inactivated virus vaccines, which is a much older technology.
	And no, it's the technology we're you still using.
	No, that is what's called a vaccine.
	Yes, yes, an actual vaccine.
	But it's old technology.
	It's one point zero man.
	Oh man, haven't you been following the narrative?
	Other technology.
	And the reason you went to mRNA or you go to subunit vaccines like what we did with our recombinant protein COVID vaccines.
	Hold on, I had to look that up because we know that he's in the vaccine business, Hotes.
	Yeah.
	Subunit vaccines.
	I had to look it up.
	Subunit vaccines are vaccines that use only specific parts, subunits of a pathogen, such as proteins or polyprotein.
	Yeah.
	It's basically, here have some spike protein, but wait, it gets better to stimulate an immune response rather than the whole pathogen.
	They are apparently safer than live or inactivated vaccines since they can't cause disease, but they often require adjuvants to boost immunity.
	Examples include hepatitis B and HPV vaccines.
	So Hotes is in on all this.
	of course, well, you know, it's much better, but mRNA mRNA is the technology.
	We know it's safe and effective.
	It saved millions of people's lives.
	Pay no attention to the VARS database.
	And now he's going completely nuts.
	Our recombinant protein COVID vaccines is because of the weakness of the whole inactivated virus technology.
	Because it depends to inactivate the virus, you have to grow a lot of the virus, either in eggs or in cell lines.
	And with a new virus and a new pathogen and an emerging pandemic threat, you don't know if the virus is going to grow well in the lab or not.
	There's no way to predict.
	So that's problem number one.
	So sometimes, even if you want to make a whole inactivated virus vaccine, you may not have enough virus to inactivate.
	So that's a problem, and we're sometimes facing that now with yellow fever vaccine.
	So that's problem number one.
	Problem number two is it produces a lot of side effects.
	If you remember, in 1976 there was a big push to make a whole inactivated virus vaccine against swine flu.
	And it caused high rates of Guillaume Baret syndrome.
	And that's because the whole inactivated virus technology probably has more side effects than just any other vaccine technology.
	So why he would choose that is just absolutely makes no sense.
	I think that's what he was.
	He's a vaccine.
	He's now basically came out against all vaccines.
	He's an antivaxer.
	Oh no, all kinds of side effects, particularly for yellow fever.
	The swine flu vaccine in 1976 didn't just give people Guillaume Baret, it killed people.
	People were dying.
	People were dying.
	Yeah, we had a couple I knew a couple I didn't know them personally, but there's a family members of certain people that worked at the Air Pollution District died from that shot.
	Yeah.
	So, but now every vaccine is no longer safe and effective except mRNA.
	This is spectacular.
	Great.
	Wow.
	And that's because this is a clip of the day, by the way.
	When I'm done.
	Virus technology probably has more side effects than just about any other vaccine technology.
	So why he would choose that is just absolutely no sense.
	I think what he was thinking maybe is since, you know, this whole wellness and influencer push coming out of the Maha movement, Make America Healthy Again, all boasts about natural immunity and this and this kind of stuff, and so he thinks maybe it'll close more closely resemble natural immunity.
	It doesn't.
	It causes severe side effects.
	So pretty much everything, every statement coming out of HHS about mRNA vaccines is incorrect, and it puts the American people under great threat.
	Oh yeah, from vaccines.
	Holy macro, this guy is doesn't he know what he's taught?
	Does he have a clue what he just said?
	No.
	It's no way he could have a clue.
	This is just baffling.
	He's slammed the entire vaccine industry since the late 1700s.
	Yes.
	They're all no good except mRNA, which we know for a fact is no good.
	Safe and effective, baby.
	Safe and effective.
	You know, Bill Maher had some natural, some doctor from, I don't know, Stanford or somebody on, who's a health nut.
	And he had, and Maher all of a sudden, I don't have the clip.
	I never thought to clip it, but Maher goes on about mRNA and how important it is.
	And I don't know what, who got to him or said got him to bring this up.
	But this reminds me of the, this is a deep state meme.
	This is, we had a clip that I had developed from Malone, the guy who was always likes to credit himself with partially inventing that technology, who said in the clip that it was the CIA that determined that we need a quick response in case of it.
	I have it.
	You want to hear it?
	Yes, let's play that clip.
	All these circumventing of normal procedures and rules.
	That's happening because, largely, our intelligence community is pushing that through the administrative state structure.
	And why are they doing it?
	I think if we just back up for a minute and say, okay, let okay.
	what I think they are believing is that they have to push this.
	They have to get acceptance for this technology because there are no alternatives and the threat is so severe in their opinion, in their spooky world, the threat is so severe that something has to exist and this is the something they've latched on to.
	Now I'm saying this not to defend them.
	I'm saying this to try to help you to understand what you've been subjected to.
	There you go.
	Found the clip in two seconds.
	And that was he's talking about the mRNA vaccine as a technology to prevent germ warfare to develop a product quickly because that's what it does.
	It's like an overnight sensation instead of having to grow all these bacteria or viruses in a lab to get the vaccine.
	Overnight sensation.
	This mRNA is the Taylor Swift of the medical industry.
	It's an overnight sensation and so they think that this is the solution to the potential for germ warfare, which is a pipe dream.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't work.
	No.
	They've latched on to it.
	The competition was the adenovirus technology, which was used for Zika and a couple of other things.
	And that was also a quick fix.
	You could do it quickly, but not as quick as this.
	And mRNA somehow they've convinced themselves that this is the way to go.
	And that's why the CIA was invested in Moderna and Pfizer.
	I guess.
	Pfizer.
	Or a biotech.
	Biotech.
	Biotech.
	So that's why I think Bill Marr comes out and he goes on about how important this is.
	I don't know, like I said, who got to him.
	And the other guy couldn't argue about it.
	And it's just they were stuck with this..
	We're going to be stuck.
	They're going to bring out more mRNA to try to prove it works again.
	They're going to be a second go round.
	It's not going to necessarily be with COVID.
	It'll be something else.
	Yeah.
	It'll be, they'll just say, we got a flu solution.
	You know, we have a thing for something.
	It's going to be for something or other, and they're going to, it's not going to be quite as drastic as COVID-19.
	The sad thing is, is that the memes that were spread during COVID still hold true today.
	People, and I'm just going to tell, because it's in the clip, I just got to tell you that people who are vaccinated, people who are all in on the mRNA in this case.
	is about COVID.
	And remember, the meme is, you won't have access to it.
	Well, yeah, you will have access.
	Your insurance may not cover it.
	Your pharmacy may not require a doctor's note.
	It's a recommendation.
	It's off the recommended list for most people, but people who have been brainwashed still believe that if you get the vaccine but someone else doesn't, you're in danger.
	This is the crazy part about it.
	And that's what we've been told for over almost three years.
	But you may get the vaccine, you're a good doobie.
	But if that person over there, that seething infected human resource, doesn't get it, you're going to die.
	And of course, grandma will never sit at the table anymore, et cetera.
	This is from Seattle.
	As new restrictions on who can now get updated COVID-19 vaccinations are being rolled out.
	This by itself is a lie.
	There's not restrictions on who can get it.
	It's restrictions on who it's rec.
	It's not recommended for most.
	And by it's not a restriction.
	Yes, it's not a restriction.
	It's a there's a rest better word.
	I can't think of it right off the top of my head.
	Recommendation.
	Yeah, recommendation would work.
	Yeah, here we go.
	As new restrictions on who can now get updated COVID-19 vaccinations are being rolled out, healthcare providers are working to determine how this will be handled as people look to get their booster shots.
	I don't agree with it at all.
	Seniors like Linda Kafaley are still able to get the shot, but she still has concerns.
	Being a senior, I can get the shot, but for those people who can't get it, then I'm affected because I'm exposed.
	This is what I'm saying.
	This is unbelievable.
	And by the way, unbelievable.
	You get, you should get another clip of the day.
	I'm taking another clip of the day.
	Here we go, everybody.
	Whoa.
	This is out of the absurdity of the case.
	Well, but it's unfortunately this lie, which clearly is still firmly embedded in people's minds who do not even understand how vaccines vaccines are supposed to work, this has divided families, friends, neighbors, this very lie.
	Well, you know, I got it, but my neighbor didn't.
	You can't come in my house.
	But you're aren't you protected by the vaccine?
	Well, we all know the answer is no.
	So we continue.
	Being a senior, I can get the shot, but for those people who can't get it, then I'm affected because I'm exposed.
	So, and it's, you know, again, we have grandchildren, you know, we just want to make sure that everyone's safe.
	I'm going to kill my grandchildren.
	To get the updated COVID-19 vaccine, children and younger adults must have at least one high risk health condition.
	But doctors say, good news, hold on, good news, everybody, pay attention.
	Most people still might qualify.
	Asthma, physical inactivity, type 2 diabetes, obesity.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop.
	This is great.
	Asthma.
	Asthma.
	Physical activity.
	Let me say.
	That's a condition.
	Let's listen.
	Hold on.
	Let's listen.
	Say most people still might qualify.
	Asthma, physical inactivity.
	Physical, yeah, he says physical.
	Is that what I mean?
	Physical activity is now a medical condition.
	Asthma, physical inactivity, type 2 diabetes.
	I think he's saying inactivity, which also is not a medical condition, but, all right., yeah, see what we have.
	Asthma, physical inactivity, type 2 diabetes, obesity, the list is actually quite long.
	And so a significant portion, most estimates suggest a majority of Americans meet one of those criteria.
	Wow, we are the same.
	Did you sit down today, have you sat on your ass for an hour?
	Oh, that's physical inactivity and you're qualifying.
	No, no, because I pay attention to my Apple Watch circles when the circle is not full.
	I have to stand up.
	When my watch tells me to stand up, I stand up.
	I'm good, I'm helping.
	And so there is still the availability of booster, booster, booster, booster., booster, booster.
	I couldn't help it.
	As well as this decision can be made with He went so nuts on that booster.
	I just had to repeat it.
	And so there is still the availability of booster, booster, booster, booster.
	As well as this decision can be made with one's healthcare provider.
	But it could be trickier to get a COVID vaccine at the pharmacy.
	I think some of the more challenging aspects of it will be around just sort of like walking up to the pharmacist, someone you don't have a treating relationship with, and then being like knowing that they're going to get reimbursed for giving you the vaccine that could be a little bit more in flux as well.
	I'm very concerned now because as a podcaster, I'm on my ass seven hours a week.
	Oh yeah, you're physically bent over.
	I'm in.
	How about podcast listeners?
	The worst.
	He's just horrible.
	Oh my goodness.
	So obviously we had to bring the we had to bring out the pharmaceutical industry into the shows.
	This is all the Sunday shows.
	So this is fresh off the press, ABC this week, Martha with Doctor Damente.
	Or is it Dimitri?
	I don't know.
	I'm joined now by Dr. Dmitry Daskalakis, who stepped down this week from his position leading the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.
	Thank you for joining us this morning, Dr. You and by the way, if these guys are all about the fight, why do they step down?
	Why don't they stay in it?
	Don't step down.
	I'm giving up out of resistance.
	If you really mean it, I agree with you.
	Wouldn't you stay and fight?
	You're right.
	And I'd have more respect for him, like, okay, this guy really believes what he's thinking.
	Let's hear about it.
	No, I'm stepping down.
	I'm stepping away from this.
	I won't work for these heathens.
	You have been at the CDC for five years, about seven months under Secretary Kennedy and your resignation.
	The podcast is going eighteen years.
	He's quitting after five.
	Yeah, really.
	Loser.
	That the CDC is generating policies that do not reflect scientific reality and are designed to hurt rather than improve the public's health.
	Oh, hold on.
	The leading question, but there's actually Kennedy is designed to hurt.
	Hurt.
	Yes.
	He's actually the devil.
	He's like, I'm Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	He'll to kill your children.
	He is generating policies that do not reflect scientific reality and are designed to hurt rather than improve the public's health.
	That's actionable as far as I'm concerned.
	That's an actionable statement.
	You can't say that.
	Can't it say he's designing this to hurt people?
	Okay, I don't know how much liability there is when it comes to a public figure like that with a with a that comment is borderline.
	It is possible if you had a good lawyer.
	What are you talking about specifically?
	Yes, doctor Demento, come on in.
	I'm going to say, well, first of all, thank you for having me on, Martha.
	And I'll say that we're seeing the tip of the iceberg.
	So right now, I think probably the most prominent demonstration of that is what Secretary Kennedy did with changing the childhood schedule for COVID-19.
	Oh, there's a lot of that.
	And in that, we were directed that only children with underlying conditions would be the ones that should qualify for vaccination.
	That's not what the data shows.
	Six month old to two year old, their underlying condition is youth.
	Fifty three percent of those children hospitalized last season had no underlying conditions.
	The data say that in that age range, you should be vaccinating your child.
	I understand that not everyone does it., but they have limited access by narrowing that recommendation.
	Insurance may not cover it.
	Yeah, may not.
	May not.
	By the way, 53 percent.
	And what was the total?
	Oh, 200.
	I think it's 200.
	It comes up later.
	But it does bring a actual number in instead of 52 percent.
	Okay.
	200 total.
	There is something that is going kind of unreported amidst this whole fracus.
	And you say designed to hurt.
	The policies are designed.
	No, you said designed to hurt.
	Wow.
	Oh, that's a good switcheroo.
	You know what happened?
	The control room went.
	Blame it on him.
	Blame it on him.
	We can't we don't want the lawsuit to go on.
	We've already been sued and we've already lost.
	Blame it on Demento.
	And you say designed to hurt.
	The policies are designed to hurt the public's health.
	I said twice.
	You say they are deliberately, purposely, knowingly hurting public health?
	How?
	I mean, from my vantage point as a doctor who's taken the Hippocratic oath, I only see harm coming.
	I may be wrong, but Oh, he's smart.
	He may be wrong.
	He may be smart, yeah.
	Based on what I'm seeing, based on what I've heard with the new members of the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices or ACIP, they're really moving in an ideological direction where they want to see the undoing of vaccination.
	What's the ideology?
	What is the ideology?
	Did he say ideology?
	Yeah, here.
	They're really moving in an ideological direction where they want to see the undoing of vaccination.
	Is that an ideology?
	I think you could see it as such if you were him.
	He could be wrong.
	They do want to see the undoing of mRNA vaccination.
	They have a very specific target on the page.
	They can't do anything.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry?
	They really are sticking to this mRNA thing.
	This goes back again to the Malone and the intelligence community.
	They cannot, they really, they're true believers at this point.
	True believers.
	It's the AI of the medical universe.
	We talk about it, and that's where the ideology comes in.
	This is an ideological position.
	Yes.
	So they project the way you always like to say in the Dutch term.
	Is that they're seeing it, they're seeing the other side as being the same way.
	I'm going to see the undoing of mRNA vaccination.
	They have a very specific target on COVID, but I do fear that they have other things that they are going to be working on.
	Hepatitis B vaccine is on the agenda for the meeting in September.
	I predict that what they're going to do is try to change the birth dose of hepatitis B vaccine to zero.
	So that kids don't get it when they're born.
	So if you have a mother who is well connected to care, you know her hepatitis B status, that may not matter very much.
	But if you have a mother who has not gone to prenatal care, who comes in to the liver, we have one bite at that apple so that child gets that important hepatitis B vaccine.
	Why does it matter?
	Kids who have hepatitis B, they get liver scarring.
	It's called cirrhosis later in life.
	Or it's a really common cause of liver cancer.
	So these kids, they're boozing it up when they're born?
	That's how they get liver cirrhosis?
	I find this hard to believe.
	What is hepatitis B and how do you get contracted?
	It's a blood disease.
	I mean, you get it from blood.
	Needles.
	Needles would be one way.
	Look it up.
	You have your machine there.
	All right, hold on a second.
	Ask the girl about how you get hepatitis B. I'm going to ask the girl.
	her name is error so error tell me how do you get hepatitis B hepatitis B spreads through blood semen or other bodily fluids.
	John, you might want to be more careful with your habits, sharing needles or unprotected semen ways.
	Also, from mother to child during birth or contaminated medical equipment.
	Stay safe, unlike clueless John.
	She's gone crazy.
	Why you put that in there?
	Clueless John.
	She didn't do that.
	She's just gone nuts.
	This is, this is, there you go.
	AI.
	It's the best thing since sliced bread.
	I don't know what it's doing.
	There you go.
	Last clip.
	You made the decision to leave saying there is not a path for doing good for public health at the CDC.
	So what effect will this have on the CDC?
	All these resignations, your resignation.
	Are you worried about what you're leaving behind and that others may follow you?
	Oh, no.
	Stay and fight.
	Of course I'm worried.
	I've been worried for months.
	I mean, I think if you've read my resignation letter, I did not write that resignation letter in fifteen minutes.
	I had Chad GPT do it for me in fifteen seconds.
	I had been ready to do this when I felt that I hit the line.
	And I hit the line when I both I didn't think that we were going to be able to present science in a way free of ideology that the firewall between science and ideology has completely broken down.
	And not having a scientific leader at CDC meant that we wouldn't be able to have the necessary diplomacy and connection with HHS to be able to really execute on good public health.
	Both of those things mean that I can't do my job and that my scientists can't do their job.
	When that happens, that's the beginning of harm.
	It is.
	And that's the end of what I can do as a physician who said that first I would do no harm.
	I couldn't be any more gay.
	I don't know where you come up with that.
	Just to hear him, it's just he's gay.
	The guy's super gay.
	Oh man.
	Well, I I mean, they didn't stop on ABC.
	This is all ABC, by the way.
	ABC, for some reason, just went to the mat and you're right, they just settled the lawsuit with the president.
	They should be careful what they're doing here.
	So, you know, I was thinking about this earlier because I was looking at CBS this morning.
	I was trying to figure.
	I was when I, before the show, you're three hour, two hours ahead of me, but when I get up before the show i always checked some news feed right away to make sure you know that world war three didn't start so that your clips are relevant thanks for watching before it's just my thinking yeah but i was watching the cbs i realized they kind of gone off the deep end and cbs i think you know we always call it the cia broadcasting system i think they went off the rails
	and i think it's the cia that pulled the plug on them because Because if you think about it, Skydance is run by Larry Ellison's son and Oracle, the corporation has always been tightly associated with the agency.
	is wresting control back from CBS because the guys have gone so lib that they're not messaging correctly they're losing their audiences they have you know bad people working there and they're gonna clean house once the skydance guys take over yeah that's that seems logical Here's another doctor.
	This is who is this doctor?
	This doctor is doctor Richard Bessert.
	Besser, sorry, Besser.
	So kids are going to die.
	No matter what you think, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is a kitty kittyiller.
	He is a kiddy killer.
	I'm joined now by former acting CDC director, doctor Richard Besser, now president and CEO of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
	Whoa, mad brother.
	Would you like to remind us about the Robert Wood Johnson case?
	Oh, I can't remember all the details, but it's bad.
	Yes, yes, it is.
	Doctor Besser, always good to see you.
	President Trump has fired a lot of people since he took office again.
	Many others in the CDC have quit now.
	What real difference will this make?
	Oh, dead kids on the street.
	You know, Martha, I think the difference is going to be profound.
	The CDC is an absolutely critical piece of the protection for Americans from any public health threat.
	Now with the director being removed, senior leadership leaving, I have great fears for what will happen to this country the next time we face a public health emergency, whether it's a massive earthquake, a new infectious agent, or unfortunately, the next pandemic.
	And we've been talking about the COVID recommendations.
	What are the practical considerations?
	How serious is it?
	I think people say, it's not 2020, so do I really need to get the booster or the vaccine.
	Yeah, you know, it is in 2020.
	But, you know, I'm a pediatrician.
	I practice pediatrics for more than thirty years.
	Thirty years.
	And we are still seeing I'm not getting my bonuses.
	200 children die.
	I can get my bonus if I grow that money.
	Anyway, here's with the number.
	2020.
	But, you know, I'm a pediatrician.
	I practice pediatrics for more than thirty years.
	And, you know, we are still seeing 200 children each year die from COVID.
	And the vast majority of those children are unvaccinated.
	So, what?
	So there are vaccinated children dying from COVID?
	What happened to Safe and Effective?
	What's the vast majority of the 200?
	And what's that percentage?
	Oh, no, now we don't get a percentage from them.
	But apparently, kids are dying after being protected by the COVID vaccine.
	Something is wrong here.
	Still seeing 200 kids each year die from COVID, and the vast majority of those kids are unvaccinated.
	So my recommendation is that you know, stop listening to the politicians, talk to your doctor about what's right for you.
	You know, there are individuals who are at greater risk, but there are also people who live with those who are at greater risk, live with elderly people, live with people with cancer.
	For those individuals getting a COVID vaccine is really important.
	Unfortunately, with the recommendations coming out of the department, many people may have to pay for this out of pocket, and a lot of people can't afford to do that.
	Oh, there you go.
	The CDC is not a department, I might point out.
	The CDC is kind of a weird beast altogether, sitting there in Atlanta.
	They've got a whole other extra nonprofit fund.
	RFK Jr. should explain to the American people how that operation actually operates.
	No one's going to do that.
	Under Richard, I'm looking at a citation here.
	Under Richard Bessant's leadership, the foundation prioritized health equity.
	So we all die.
	That's the idea.
	That's equitable.
	Everybody does.
	Everybody does.
	Okay, two more clips from this, Jamoke.
	Because of what you're seeing at the CDC, who should people take advice from now?
	The CDC still?
	Wha, what kind of question?
	Let me think, how would I answer that?
	No, you can't listen to the CDC.
	Listen to the doctors.
	Trust the science.
	Well, for personal health information, I think you need to talk to your doctor, your nurse, your pharmacist.
	You know, I worry about the nation as a whole.
	You know, I served as the acting director of the CDC at the start of the Obama administration, and the reason I got that job was that I had run emergency preparedness at the agency for four years.
	They wanted to make sure What agency?
	First he says department, then he says agency.
	The CDC is not an agent.
	Is he talking about the CDC?
	Yeah, I think so.
	That's not an agency.
	Could it be defined as an agency?
	I don't think so.
	Well, let's take a, well, ask your friend.
	Okay.
	Is the CDC considered an agency of the government?
	No, John, darling.
	The District of Columbia isn't considered an agency of the government.
	It's a federal district with its own local government.
	She thinks it's DC.
	I'm not even going to ask her.
	I'm not even going to ask it again, but that is the Centers for Disease Control.
	Be more specific.
	You want to ask, though?
	I'm not asking nothing because she's condemning me.
	You've got some code you put in there so every time she answers a question, it's got something to do with me.
	Nice try.
	Is the Centers for Diseasease Control considered an agency?
	Yes, the CDC is a federal agency, John, unlike you, who's just a federal pain part of the US Department of Health and Human Services, my brilliant love.
	Anything else, handsome?
	She's got an algidi on you.
	I'd like insulting error better.
	Anyway, okay, so that I guess is, I thought it was, well, we'll have to look into that.
	We have looked into it, but the CDC is not your typical agency.
	It's also located in Atlanta, which should tell you something.
	It's not in DC.
	was that I had run emergency preparedness at the agency for four years.
	They wanted to make sure someone was in that seat in the event of a public health emergency, and there was.
	There was the H1N1 swine flu pandemic.
	We now have as acting director someone with absolutely no public health experience, and that puts us all at incredible risk.
	And, doctor Messar, I want to ask you one thing about mandates.
	It's one of the things that Secretary Kennedy said this week and touted progress that he's made.
	He said he ended the mandates.
	Why do you think mandates are important?
	Well, you know, when I think about mandates., I think about children going to school.
	I think about young parents who are sending their children to school and want to know that their children are safe.
	And the way children are safe from vaccine preventable diseases is by getting vaccinated themselves, but no vaccine is one hundred percent, and so you count on the other children in that classroom being vaccinated.
	I think with this Secretary, we are on a path to it being largely parental choice, and that is going to put at risk those people for whom the vaccine didn't work and children who may have medical conditions where they can't get vaccinated.
	That is a major step backward for public health.
	It's like if, first of all, if you're vaccinated, you can still get killed by an unvaccinated.
	Then it's a parental choice, which is clearly very bad.
	And then it's like, well, some kids can't get vaccinated and other kids who aren't vaccinated will kill the other kids.
	Meanwhile, we got real kids killing kids with guns everywhere who are hyped up on other pharmaceutical nonsense.
	I know there has been concern from public health officials like you about Kennedy given his history of unsubstantiated claims about the link between vaccines.
	Unsubstantiated claims, I tell you.
	And autism.
	He talked about researching the causes of autism this week with President Trump.
	Let's listen.
	Here we go, everybody.
	The Autism is such a tremendous horror show.
	How are you doing on that?
	We are doing very well.
	We will have announcements as promised in September.
	We're finding interventions, certain interventions now that are clearly, almost certainly, causing autism.
	Again, there's no scientific support for a link between autism and vaccines, but are you concerned about what he might announce?
	He didn't actually even say that.
	She just presumed that's what he's going to say.
	He could say it's microplastics for all we know.
	But she's just presuming that's what's going to happen.
	I'm very concerned.
	You know, when he was being confirmed to be secretary, one of the things he said is, don't listen to him for scientific advice.
	He's not a scientist.
	But since he has become secretary, he very frequently is making scientific proclamations that have absolutely no basis.
	So I'm worried as to what he'll say.
	There's incredible research going on to try and understand the many causes of autism and how to provide the best services for people who are on the autism spectrum.
	I don't see this as a secretary who's going been following ideology from day one.
	Ideology, there it is again, ideology.
	What is what is his ideology?
	So what, you want to know what is this ideology?
	Yes.
	What, well, she's going to ask it.
	Keep playing.
	She'll ask.
	No, that was the last clip.
	Let me ask Error.
	Error, what is the ideology behind Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s policies?
	Intuitionism and skepticism, Zionist Shill Adam, blending environmentalism with distrust in big institutions like vaccines and big pharma.
	Think natural foods, anti-establishment vibes, and conspiracy-leaning health policies.
	She called me a Zionist chill.
	What's up with you?
	Well, everybody knows that.
	She's just lashing out Zionist chill, Adam.
	It's gone crazy.
	This thing is, that's Grock.
	That thing is no good.
	Anyway, so there you go.
	I don't know if you had anything else in this department, but I let you go.
	Yeah, by the way, Ozempic side effects may have caused the granny to stab her family members in Australia.
	So that's just a slight side effect, everybody.
	Oh, stabbing.
	Stabbing stabbed her daughter and her grandson.
	Yeah, it was it was it was the Ozempic.
	Sure.
	Did that this has not been documented?
	This is bullying.
	This is an excuse for stabbing.
	Yes, probably.
	Probably.
	She's a murderer, the woman.
	No, because they didn't die.
	They were okay.
	She's not a murderer.
	All right.
	I'm going to give you some kudos.
	Some kudos.
	Thank you.
	I'll take them.
	Okay, let's move on to the next...
	Oh, you want to know what the kudos are for?
	Regarding the shooting in New York, which the media played off as against the NFL for the guy's brain injuries.
	What did you say it was?
	Blackstone, they had the guys from Las Vegas.
	They were Blackstone is the number one target area for buying up houses and doing real estate deals is Las Vegas.
	And he killed the head of Blackstone's real estate division, which probably has something to do with this Las Vegas thing.
	And I think he lost his house or somebody, something happened.
	They didn't want to cover it.
	They wanted to cover it up because they don't want New York City to be filled with a bunch of people shooting the CEOs in the big buildings.
	It's not going to be any good for the city.
	Well, even though they don't deconstruct it the way you did, the end result is kind of the same.
	Federal prosecutors say Luigi Mangione may have influenced last month's mass shooting at an office building in Midtown in a new court filing.
	Prosecutors say by carrying out the execution style murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, Mangione quote, hoped to normalize the use of violence.
	And joining us now to break it down is ABC's Aaron Kutersky.
	Aaron, let's start.
	What exactly are federal prosecutors arguing in this new filing?
	Well, they're explaining a little bit more about why they want to pursue the death penalty for Luigi Mangione on federal charges to which he's pleaded not guilty.
	And Brittany, they say one of the reasons is because he's a future danger.
	And you say to yourself, how is Luigi Mangione in custody, charged with murdering Brian Thompson, going to be a danger to anyone?
	And prosecutors say it's his ability to inspire.
	And they take the words, delay, deny, depose, written on the bullets.
	They take some of the writings that police say were seized from him after his arrest, where they believe Mangione not only wanted to kill Brian Thompson, but also make a larger point.
	And that is to encourage others to use violence instead of dialogue to make some sort of political...
	Was there anything in the NFL headquarters shooting in Midtown that related to Mangione?
	Not specifically, but federal prosecutors pointed to it in this most recent court filing to say, just look at Shane Tamura and what he did.
	He also left writings behind indicating that he had a grievance against an entity, in this case, not healthcare, but the NFL, allegedly for causing traumatic brain injury.
	And instead of trying to work it out somehow, what did he do?
	Prosecutors noted he used violence marching into 345 Park Avenue with an assault style rifle.
	This is really shooting the head of Blackstone.
	I mean, come on.
	Where's the NFL in this?
	And where's that note?
	This bull crap.
	They made all that part up.
	Yeah.
	This is the, by the way, the assault style rifle.
	Love that.
	Assault style.
	Yeah.
	But isn't this the definition of what most of these people go through?
	Like going postal.
	You know, someone was mad about his job at the post office.
	This is what it was called.
	What is called?
	Absolutely.
	Although, did it only really happen once or twice, I think?
	How many times?
	Well, the postal thing, I think it happened about a half dozen times or maybe a dozen.
	That was good.
	That went on for a long time.
	Yeah.
	Well, there you go.
	Because one guy did it, everyone else did it.
	So now they want to kill Mangione because he might inspire people.
	Which is kind of, kind of odd.
	But they just put him in maximum security prison.
	He's not going to inspire anybody from there.
	No, you have to thwart people by saying you will die.
	I don't know about that working.
	It makes him a martyr.
	I think it's dangerous.
	Well, so back to your premise., the whole report is made up in bullcrap because really what it's about is this kind of Luigi vigilanteism.
	I think the Zephyr just went by.
	No.
	We're late.
	No.
	Some went by, yeah.
	No.
	Well, do you.
	Are you looking for the clip?
	Yes, I am.
	I like it.
	It depends on the number of no's you say when you're looking for the clip.
	Stop.
	That's good.
	I don't have it.
	Is this it?
	No, it's listen to that horn.
	There goes.
	It's listen to that horn, but I thought we had a zephyr thing.
	Was it foamer?
	That's what it was.
	Foamer.
	Oh, goodness gracious.
	So let's try it again.
	Oh, my God.
	Listen to that horn.
	Did you see how many cars the zephyr had?
	And why is it going by on Sunday?
	It's not supposed to go by at this time.
	No, they go, that's seven days a week.
	Yeah, but it's late.
	It's really late.
	What happened?
	I don't know.
	At first, I couldn't count the cars because there's a big, they put up a big apartment building near the tracks.
	It muffles the sound, but it doesn't.
	work.
	But they have blocked your view of the tracks.
	Yeah.
	Most people, by the way, would be super happy about this.
	Oh, finally.
	I don't hear that blast of the train every single night.
	John is disappointed.
	I can't hear the train.
	So since we're talking about Kennedy a little bit in this health situation, I have a couple of clips on food dyes.
	Mm, yes.
	And I thought this was an interesting, this was from NPR, and this was a good counterargument for the food dyes.
	Why is everyone else in the world they have, they've taken the dye, these artificial flashy dyes out of the cereals.
	But they have a, our people have a real good excuse.
	It's the dumb public.
	Now they're blaming the dumb public for this whole thing.
	This is, I thought, was a fascinating series of clips.
	The story that always comes up is about the cereal tricks.
	This morning, a big announcement from a cereal giant.
	What silly rabbit?
	Just for kids.
	Ten years ago, General Mills made a splash saying it would remove artificial dyes from cereal and it released tricks colored naturally with fruits and vegetables.
	And many shoppers hated it.
	They complained on social media and the news said the new tricks looked sad and boring.
	And General Mills capitulated.
	They actually put the food dyes, the synthetic dyes back into the trick cereal formula.
	Thomas Galligan is with the Center for Science and the Public Interest.
	It advocates against synthetic dyes over health concerns, particularly in children.
	And this is really a problem because General Mills frame this as a consumer demand issue.
	This is what consumers want.
	And it set the tone.
	So when Kellogg later died fruit loops with spices and juices, it was for Canada, but not the U.S. M ⁇ M's Maker Mars phased out artificial colors in Europe, but not the U.S. The All-American Kraft Mac and Cheese removed chemical dyes stealthily.
	It's still neon yellow, but naturally both.
	Naturally, boasting in the ads.
	Moms didn't notice.
	Kids didn't notice.
	Neither did dogs.
	Kellogg and Mars would say Americans really love bright colors.
	And data suggests it's true.
	People think food smells better if it's brightly colored.
	Period, end of story.
	Marion Nessel is a public health nutritionist who's tracked research on food dyes.
	Brighter colors are perceived as tasting better whether the taste changes or not.
	Oh, yeah, well, that's true.
	Just walk through any American supermarket.
	It's like walking through a carnival.
	Color.
	It's true.
	Color.
	It's overloaded with color.
	It gets.
	Color.
	It used to be, we were happy with the toy inside.
	It was a spinning top made of plastic.
	We put a spinning top in a cracker jacks.
	Well, not even the cracker jacks, but you had it, I think you had it in cornflakes, rice crispies.
	And I remember.
	used to put toys and all kinds of foods and in fact you went back far enough and They used to put towels in a box of det in the church and you get a free towel.
	And I also remember the, I forgot what product it was, but my mom always bought it.
	And I always said, Mom, buy that.
	It was like some cleaning product.
	And it came with a, with a sponge, but the sponge was like the size of a postage stamp.
	And in the minute you added water to it, it expanded all the way to the end.
	Oh, they had all this compressed sponge.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I was like, Yeah, Mom, buy one of those.
	It was a great marketing tool.
	But yes, yeah, of course.
	Do they still put, I think they probably stopped putting the toys in because it would go into cereal and children would try to eat the toy.
	Because kids are dumb.
	Generally, yeah.
	But yes, I think this is well known.
	And just look at all the fake meat and all that stuff that they're putting together.
	It all has all kinds of coloring and taste added.
	And then I'm talking about the nutritional value of this junk.
	I remember my, my, my dad used to say, You're eating cardboard.
	He would always say that.
	You're eating cardboard.
	I think my parents said cardboard.
	Cardboard.
	I'm a boomer.
	Boomer.
	It tastes a lot like cardboard.
	Yeah.
	Okay, let's go to here's a second version of the second clip.
	But is it our nature or is it marketing?
	Think about your force of habit, especially for children childhood snacks of course children tend to love brighter colors so they get advertised too and when they grow up it's hard to let go of that memory food dyeing goes back centuries think dairy farmers adding spices to make cheese look more yellow food historian i hisano says railroads made an impact when florida farmers had to compete with california farmers they started dyeing their
	oranges to be more orange along came processed foods when butter had to compete with margarine it became a richer yellow over time hisano says, colorful advertising and the modern supermarket trained us what to expect.
	Like say strawberry candies or strawberry drinks, they don't look like a real strawberry cutter, but people we can learn to understand.
	And learn to recognize even science fiction-y flavors and colors like blue raspberry.
	Now we're at a new turning point.
	The Trump administration's health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is pushing companies to get rid of synthetic dyes.
	And major brands are agreeing.
	Even M ⁇ M's is once again willing to try a naturally colored version.
	The irony is that without artificial color, many snacks and cereals look, well, obviously processed.
	And natural dyes can be finicky.
	color has been a challenge for us nick Scheidler leads product development at walmart's sam's club which in 2022 pledged that by the end of this year it would remove dozens of ingredients from its private brand members mark that includes high fructose corn syrup some preservatives and artificial dyes the latter proved the trickiest Well, at least the conversations out there, I guess that's kind of good.
	People are talking about it.
	Shouldn't give your kids this cids when they were young?
	Fruit loops.
	No.
	I doubt it.
	Oatmeal.
	Exactly.
	Eggs.
	Bacon and eggs is always a winner.
	Stack of pancakes.
	Pancakes is good.
	French toast.
	French toast, yep.
	With bacon?
	No, usually not.
	But with maple syrup, the real deal.
	The real deal.
	Yeah, the real deal.
	Gets them all jacked up, ready for school.
	I'm ready, Jack.
	I'm ready, dad.
	Drive me to school.
	Maple syrup is actually pretty sweet.
	It's sweeter than you'd think.
	I know.
	I know it is.
	Yeah, so some of the things we saw were the colors actually were muted and they got continuously lighter over time.
	Some replacements are tried and true.
	Turmeric makes things yellow, beets red, a seed called a natto orange and blue can come from spirulina, which is algae.
	But then you add these savory dyes to sweets and you've got to find a way to mask their flavors.
	In some cases too, it wasn't holding the color as long.
	Scheidler says the final frontiers for his team, one is sports drinks in colors to rival Gatorade.
	The other is icing for cupcakes and cookies, bright like crayons.
	And I kept wondering, why bother?
	Why can't cupcakes just be less vivid?
	Scheidler says Sam's Club kept asking its shoppers about this.
	The visual appearance is still something very important that they've told us.
	Nature or nurture, shoppers said they did not want a gray murky soda or a dusty looking sweet treat.
	Alina Silu, NPR News.
	Thank you, Silu.
	This is Lieutenant Ahura.
	Signing off.
	Sorry.
	What?
	No, I was just making fun of her name.
	So I don't see why anyone's buying cupcakes from the Sam's Club bakery, but okay.
	And by the way, one of the worst bakeries is Whole Foods.
	Man, I haven't been to a Whole Foods in years.
	We don't have one out here, so I haven't been.
	Yeah, you got luck.
	Yeah.
	We don't really eat any baked goods.
	We don't eat any sweets.
	I can't have them in the house.
	Tina's an addict.
	She's an addict.
	If I if I bring something like M and M's, oh, that bag will be gone in thirty minutes.
	Well, well, thirty minutes, that's a while.
	Like one of those huge bags.
	It's like, not like a little bag, like one of those big bagss.
	There's no, there's nothing sweet in our house.
	No, she's she says it herself.
	She's keeping it away.
	I thought she was sweet.
	Oh, that's so nice of you to say.
	Ready for a pivot?
	Yeah, it's a pivot.
	I'm going to pivot to the tariffs because, well, I do have a tariffs clip.
	Yeah.
	Well, let me let me set this up first.
	I have a Scott Simon clip with the tariffs.
	That might be the way to start.
	Oh man, hold on a second.
	You know, the problem with Scott Simon is the guy., first he goes on vacation for five weeks, we don't hear from him.
	And then all of a sudden he's back.
	Let me see, where's your, where's your, where's your clip here?
	It's Tariff Needs Trump, NPR's Scott Simon.
	Ah.
	There we go.
	Suffering Succatash.
	I'm Scott Simon.
	Federal Appeals Court has ruled that many of President Trump's sweeping tariffs are illegal.
	That's the guy, man.
	It's him.
	But the judges delayed implementation of the ruling until October, giving the Supreme Court time to rule.
	Joined out by NPR's Ron Elving.
	Ron, thanks for being with us.
	Thanks, Scott.
	It's nice to be with you, Scott.?
	Social media posts, the president says it would be, quote, a total disaster for the country if the tariffs went away.
	What does this ruling and all the back and forth mean for those trade deals?
	You know, this tariff story has been whiplash practically from the get-go.
	Trump has imposed tariffs and lifted them.
	He's set them at 25% for a group of countries and then doubled them, set them at 100% of the value of the goods and then paired that way back.
	He's looked very much, or this whole playing out has looked very much like an array of negotiating tactics in search of a strategy.
	And while billions have been collected, you know what's so interesting is that, oh, oh, really, Sherlock?
	Have you finally figured out the president's algorithm?
	This is what he does.
	Like, I think we'll have six hundred thousand Chinese students.
	Everyone freaks out.
	No, I don't think we'll have six hundred thousand Chinese students.
	It's how he does.
	It's how he works.
	Like, well, it seems like this is a negotiating tactic without a strategy.
	It is the strategy.
	It is the strategy.
	I'm so tired of these people.
	Playing out has looked very much like an array of negotiating tactics in search of a strategy.
	And while billions have been collected, it's premature to say that's really money in the bank, at least not yet.
	So the disposition here is good going to depend on what the Supreme Court, ultimately the U.S. Supreme Court, should decide.
	Did Trump follow the law in his end run around Congress in setting these tariffs?
	Or is he within his rights?
	That's been a crucial question all along, but Friday's ruling from the Full Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit really raises the stakes.
	So it will go to the Supreme Court eventually.
	But in the meantime, it's back with a trade court that has been tough on Trump in the past.
	And at the same time, let's remember, it could be good news for consumers if it ultimately restrains these new Trump tariffs and allows U.S. retailers to return to their previous price structures.
	So, you know, if you look at all of the bills and the laws that Congress itself passed, they have given a lot of this power to the president.
	But if you take it back to the Constitution, and in particular, if you keep telling the American people, it's a tax.
	It's a tax.
	It's a tax on you.
	And, you know, I think there's an argument to be made that it is not within his authority.
	However, I found a clip here from CTV, trust the Canadians, with a former U.S. journalist.
	And I think this is probably exactly what will happen.
	And guess what?
	It's about the midterms.
	Given the holding of the court, I think the fact that the court similarly has given the president until October 15 to file a Supreme Court appeal.
	And then the Supreme Court, as you indicated, I think earlier, the super majority on the court might slow walk this through the midterm elections of 2026 so that these tariffs, even though ruled illegal and importantly so, will remain in effect until the court rules.
	And if the court does what it did with the presidential immunity case, waiting till the last day to brief here and decide, I think these tariffs are going to be significant with us for a long time now.
	And when it, assuming it gets to the Supreme Court, either way their decision goes, what kind of a precedent would that set?
	Well, I think that's going to be the key precedent because the lower court rulings, although I think correct, based on the United States Constitution, Article 1, which vests exclusive jurisdiction for both tariffs and taxes,
	which these tariffs are in the United States Congress, if they decide to uphold Trump on this, I think that will be another one of these precedents, which although I think in earlier times people would say there was a very small chance for that to occur, that will become the new precedent by the super majority.
	Yeah.
	It'll be another thing everyone can get angry over.
	Meanwhile, the whole concept seems to be working pretty well.
	Well, so far.
	Except for the vape shops.ps are all upset because the cheap Chinese crap, vape, you know, pre-packaged, pre-bundled vapes are now five bucks more expensive.
	They should be outlawed, these things.
	They're dangerous to your health, in my opinion.
	Oh, I can't get my vape.
	I can't get the flavor I want.
	And this was kind of interesting, coming back to the de minimis, as we know, as we discussed on, I think, the last episode.
	You used to be able to ship up to $800 worth of stuff tax-free, which is now all of this T-Moo and all these things, you know, the clothes, which by the way., are all like thirty bucks.
	I'm not quite sure unless you ship it all in one box.
	And by the way, is this just self-declared?
	How much is this worth?
	It could be a diamond in there.
	Ah, twenty bucks.
	Well, that is that's always been a promise called smuggling.
	Well, it turns out that with this de minimis, it's not just about the amount, but now people actually have to file paperwork.
	Janouette and her two children traveled for hours to come to the post office in Mexico City.
	But after the National Post Service suspended shipments to the US, they're leaving, disappointed.
	Well, then my loved ones were expecting some presents.
	I wanted to send them things like a little show, something made in Mexico.
	Now I can.
	I've already bought it, but I can get it to them.
	The postal services of dozens of countries have done the same.
	French, Danish, Spanish, Russian, Indian, British, Taiwanese, Belgian, German and Italian to name a few.
	But why now?
	On Friday, the United States ended duty-free imports for all parcels worth less than $800, an exemption known as de minimis.
	President Donald Trump's administration promises the move will be permanent, and postal services hope the resulting logistics headaches are temporary.
	One certainty is there'll be more paperwork for sellers and higher prices for buyers.
	The U.S. government already eliminated the exemption for goods from China at the start of May and says it's collected almost half a billion dollars from the new tax since then.
	The idea behind the expanded policy is to tackle low-cost direct-to-consumer imports and boost American manufacturing and retail.
	Yep, it'll boost our plastic crap.
	We should start making it.
	I don't understand why this is such a big deal.
	In the olden days, you used to get stuff from overseas and it had a little tag on it with the value and you paid the tariff at the post office.
	Yes.
	But I guess that, well, we know that went away.
	A couple of Republicans.
	Well, now nobody can do it.
	Well, how are we going to do it?
	I don't know.
	It's so confusing.
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	It's beyond me.
	I can't write this little ticket up and stick it on the envelope.
	So here, I don't understand this.
	This is from Sir Jean who is listening live in real time.
	Recently, you had to get a part for a joystick from China, which, by the way, is already your problem, Sir Jean.
	Did you break your joystick?
	Because of what he used it for.
	for.
	Yes, the part was $84, which would fit in the de minimis.
	The shipping.
	Now the shipper has to collect the tariffs of $46 when it came into the US.
	I was notified.
	I owed $56 in order for them to deliver it, so the total price on an $84 part came to $180.
	I don't understand.
	It's under $100, so someone's ripping you off.
	Or is this just pure the pure tariff?
	No, I mean, de minimis is no tariff.
	Am I misunderstanding?
	My understanding is yes, no, I mean, you're yes, no, yes, no, yes, and no, and no, and yes, maybe.
	No, no, no.
	I thought it was $100.
	They changed it from $800 to $100.
	So anything, which was why Sheemu and Timu and Seamus and Damus and all the rest of these operations, these guys are sending me two or three emails a day.
	And I keep looking, I'm going, I could just block these.
	There's no problem in my mailing.
	I can just put a thing in there.
	But I keep, for some reason, I let it happen, hoping some real good deal shows up, I guess.
	I don't know why I'm allowing this.
	But they're constantly they want you to buy cheap lots of little packages.
	I mean, the idea Yeah, that's the whole point.
	My understanding is you can buy $1,800 packages and it all comes through free.
	That's what I thought too.
	So I think, Gene, you're getting ripped off by someone.
	So something's missing.
	Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
	Tina Tina fell for a good one the other day.
	She was on Instagram and she says, you know, these two people and their whole account was like, they have to shut down their store.
	They can't make it any more.
	And they just, you know, they're just selling nice clothes and, you know, skirts and stuff.
	And there was a husband and wife and, you know, they're really sad.
	and Tina's like, ah, you know, I'll buy some stuff from them.
	So she puts in an order, I don't know, like 150 bucks.
	And then she gets a confirmation from China.
	And then, you know, and then she sees the actual product shots.
	It's all crap.
	It's like three dollar skirts from China.
	And these people were just scamming her.
	Like, oh, we're so we have to go out of business.
	It wasn't going to be, it was a lie.
	Lies on the internet.
	And now, and she's like, cancel my order.
	I know, she's like, cancel my order.
	No, we can't.
	It's already done.
	It's coming from China.
	You'll have to send it back to China.
	Well, that'll be the last time that happens to her.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	Because I'm going to make fun of her for a long time.
	I'm going to make fun of her about it.
	I mean, that's what scammers do.
	They scam.
	They're business.
	So, so, so I'm at the dinner table and it's brought up by JC and Jesse both that Trump's dying.
	I heard this.
	Yeah.
	No, I actually there was a rumor this weekend that he was already dead.
	Yeah, there's that, that one too.
	That's on top of it.
	And he came out in the golf cart with his granddaughter and started, you know, riding around.
	So he's dying of what?
	Well, I have the clip.
	Oh, this is the Trump.
	Now, this is a clip.
	This is a combo clip.
	This is from those two putty faced women that do this iHip news or whatever it's called.
	They said it's one horrible.
	Putty faced women?
	Yeah.
	One of them looks like her face is made.
	She looks like Odo in Deep Space Nine.
	She's got no character.
	She has no features on her face.
	Like, literally.
	I see.
	And so they call her putty face and she's a Trump hater and she and there's no such thing as President Trump.
	It's the felon President Trump.
	It's always like.
	So they report on it and they bring in the, I think the, the progenitor of the whole thing, which I believe to be Alex Jones.
	Oh, I have to watch this now.
	The first comment on the YouTube, he wasn't shot, he didn't win, he's going to hell.
	I'll have to watch this.
	You're right, they are putty faced.
	A little bit of eye makeup wouldn't hurt just for video.
	I mean, I don't care how you look, but.
	Okay, so this is all from Alex Jones.
	Surprise.
	Well, no, this is from the iHip.
	They refer to Alex Jones and bring in Alex Jones.
	They did make a clip.
	They make a clip.
	They make a clip.
	Oh, okay.
	McTaco Titz, the convicted felon president.
	And president, what did she say, taco tits?
	McTaco tits.
	What is that?
	I don't know.
	That's what she calls him.
	McTaco tits, the convicted felon president.
	Oh, that's our president.
	Okay, points for that one.
	McTaco tits, the convicted felon president of the United States health is in rapid, rapid decline.
	There is a massive cover up going on at the White House regarding this, but the right wing is starting to figure it out.
	And Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist, absolute, abject piece of shit is starting to get to the bottom of it.
	Kylie pop up this headline.
	Hey, that's what one of our producers wants me to talk like that.
	That's exactly what they want to hear.
	Taco takes piece of shit.
	Okay, sure.
	The conspiracy theorist, absolute, abject piece of shit is starting to get to the bottom of it.
	Kylie pop up this headline.
	We have a crisis, Alex Jones warns that Trump is headed for health collapse.
	A health collapse.
	Kylie, now play the clip.
	Because you can see him declining faster and faster.
	It's not super bad yet.
	But unlike Biden, that was completely shot.
	and had all these brain surgeries and the rest of it.
	Trump has great genetics.
	He's tough.
	And if he takes care of himself, he can make it through these years and then after.
	But if he doesn't, he's going to have, I predict Trump is going to have some type of collapse from the next twelve months of the current trajectory.
	I'm not saying he's going to.
	Okay, deep in the heart of MAGA, he's giving Kanks, who I'm going to refer to him as instead of Kankel's make taco tits for expediency and efficiency.
	He's giving Kanks twelve months, twelve months to live.
	Alex Jones.
	Well, here's the thing.
	He says a couple of things that are just really odd.
	It's not that terrible.
	His ankles are as big as my head.
	He's got bruises on his palm from what I think they're giving him IVs.
	And then he says, he has great genes.
	Let's not forget his daughter, his father died of dementia and Alzheimer's.
	This man's genes tell us exactly where he's at, in my opinion, and I'm not a doctor.
	That's pretty good.
	Those women and that, that and the what's that other podcast that we talk about every month?
	Midas effect?
	Midas touch.
	Midas touch, yes.
	I thought it was Midas effect.
	I think it's the Midas effect.
	I thought it was Midas.
	Whatever it is, it's Midas something.
	This guy's name is Midas.
	And that guy who's just as bad as these two putty faced women.
	Putty face.
	Just cannot.
	They're such unbelievable haters.
	It's just I don't think it does the public any good at all to listen to people like this.
	Well, on that note, well, I'm running down putty face.
	For some reason, I just kind of like it.
	You're right.
	It is the Midas Touch podcast.
	You're right.
	Alex Jones also Breaking, Breaking nose.
	I didn't clip him.
	You know, oh, oh, oh yeah, here we go.
	The whole network, everybody was all, all of his guys were all over it.
	Oh, his dad was a spook, deep state, deep state.
	This is all set up.
	And we're talking about the Minneapolis shooter, the trans shooter, deep state, deep state, how many times, how many times, it's geospatial industry.
	Yeah, that's it.
	I don't get the geospatial thing.
	The CIA, they work for the CIA.
	So we, of course, have the we we are the best podcasting in the universe, not because of Adam and John, but because of our producers.
	And here's what came in.
	Adam, I worked with Robert Robin Westman's dad, Jim Westman, for twenty years.
	You were wondering where the parents were.
	Up until twenty fourteen.
	They got divorced in twenty thirteen.
	Their son would have been eleven at the time.
	I don't know for sure, but I think the mother had custody of the kids after the divorce.
	I think I saw the kid at work at a work event or something when he was seven or eight, but don't remember anything unusual, just a normal little boy at the time.
	Jim, that's this shooter's dad, is a dude named Bened Ben and a very good coder.
	I see people on X claiming he was a CIA analyst or CIA contractor.
	I can assure you, this is complete nonsense.
	I have some friends that are still in contact with him, but I haven't talked to any of them about the situation since this is so hot right now.
	And of course, he wants me to keep him anonymous.
	He's a knight.
	I know who he is.
	And I believe his story to be true.
	So sorry to debunk that.
	However, however, however, however.
	The M five M cannot get past this.
	The trans part because.
	Because, look, there are patterns, there are patterns.
	But we don't know the motive.
	We have no idea.
	There are patterns, but we don't know the motive.
	You have mass shooting investigations.
	So often there's a pattern.
	I think police are trying to get after that tonight.
	You see, obviously, some real clues here as to what a motive could be, but they're not saying formally what it is yet.
	We don't have a motive at this time.
	It's unclear what the motive was.
	Again, there's just nothing specific in the evidence that's been recovered.
	There's no information, nothing specific to identify a specific motive, but they'll be continuing to talk to people to see if there was a flag, if something may have popped up that they can look into.
	There's no clear motive and that's what we want to know.
	Was this a revenge shot because there were prior affiliations to the school?
	Is this notoriety?
	The shooter identified, we're told as a female legally changed their name from Robert to Robin.
	There's no connection yet from that to the motive.
	I don't believe that how the shooter identifies currently in this investigation right now is of significant importance.
	The mayor also calling on people to quote stop villainizing the trans community after learning that the suspect who was born male identified as female spoke about this so profoundly and powerfully.
	I have heard about a whole lot of hate that is being directed at our trans community.
	Anyone that is going to use this as an opportunity.
	to villainize our trans community.
	Trans community.
	To jump to conclusions about the shooter, right?
	What his ideological views might have been, what his own personal situation was.
	Did these people not watch the videos?
	Did they not read anything that this kid was doing?
	Oh, we don't know what the motive, but for sure the motive isn't just because you're trans doesn't mean you're a killer.
	There's a pattern there, and the pattern would have to be relatable to mental illness, to pharmaceutical drugs, which we heard are very own vaccine denier, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., say many of them come with black box warnings that say you might have suicidal ideations or homicidal ideations, seems like a possible thing we could look at.
	But no, don't you dare talk about our trans community.
	Community.
	It's not a community.
	Where do they live?
	Well, Minneapolis, that's true.
	It's a trans community.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Because in this case, when it comes to this trans person, we no longer view this person as a she as he wanted to be identified.
	No, no, no.
	We're just going to view her as a him for convenience's sake.
	I don't know why this has been a trend lately when it comes to shooters, but immediately you'll see a bunch of accounts online argue that it's a trans problem that the shooter was trans.
	A lot of shootings happening all across the country from different demographics, but a lot of the mass shootings are carried out by young white men.
	They say demonic and then they it's transgender maniac shoots up Catholic school.
	They could very easily say time and time again.
	Again, straight white maniac shoots up Catholic schools.
	There's a lot of misinformation circulating right now.
	This individual, as far as we know, did identify as transgender.
	However, as we look at the spectrum of mass casualties in our nation's history, there have been a range of motivations and a range of profiles that have been associated with mass casualties.
	You look at the shooting in Charleston at a historically black church in 2015 that was perpetrated by a white supremacist.
	Let's just be very real here.
	We have too many guns in America.
	Yeah, all right.
	So, when did the guns.
	When it behooves the mainstream media, then the trans woman is a white man.
	It's unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	Shocking.
	Yeah, I know, very shocking, shocking.
	And then there's gambling going on.
	Here's the Minnesota Acting Attorney General.
	The shooter left behind hundreds of pages of writings.
	Writings that describe the shooter's plan.
	Writings that describe the shooter's mental state.
	And more than anything, writings that describe the shooter's hatred, pure, indiscriminate hatred.
	The shooter expressed hatred towards almost every group imaginable.
	The shooter expressed hatred towards black people.
	The shooter expressed hatred towards Mexican people.
	The shooter expressed hatred towards Christian people.
	The shooter expressed hatred towards Jewish people.
	In short, the shooter appeared to hate all of us.
	The shooter's heart was full of hatred.
	There appears to be only one group that the shooter didn't hate wait to hear what it was.
	Just one group, only one group?
	One group of people whom the shooter admired.
	The group were the school shooters and mass murderers that are notorious in this country.
	The shooter idolized some of the most notorious school shooters and mass murderers in our country's history.
	I won't name them, just like I won't name the shooter.
	They don't deserve to have their names remembered.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	That's what I mean.
	It's like the whole rundown forgot to mention Andres Breivik, who was not American and who killed a bunch of kids for political reasons.
	I think there was a more obvious, I would say, thing left out of his lists.
	That was more important than anything, which was he hated this, he hated that.
	He hated Trump.
	It says very specifically kill Trump.
	Kill Trump, yes, you're right.
	And that because of that, leaving stuff like that out, resulted in Rosie O'Donnell coming on her stupid thing saying the guy was Mega.
	Do you have a clip?
	I now that you mentioned it, no, but I wasn't clipping for this guy because I thought it was old news we already covered, but I should have clipped it, but that's what Rosie said that that's another mega guy killing people uh which is you know but yeah because you leave that one thing out yeah and you could maybe think that uh Rosie O'Donnell is she is she back on a show somewhere she has a show yeah her own she has it she has her own posts on x oh that's
	her show is it that's her show she's got the camera up her nose she's got it She looks like that.
	That's not a very good show.
	Hell baked over.
	That's not a very good show.
	She's got the camera up her nose.
	That's not a show, man.
	She's an influencer..
	Well, on the legal front, we do have something changing.
	Rob, constitutional lawyer, you know, I called him out on last show, haven't heard from him.
	I'm worried because there is, there is work to be done, my friend.
	Attorneys in general of Virginia and North Carolina are part of a bipartisan coalition demanding big tech companies strengthen protections for minors exposed to AI chatbots.
	They sent a letter warning companies will be held accountable for any harm to their AI products that they cause, including sexual conversations, discussions of violence, and deceptive interactions that lead to scams.
	This comes as a California family is suing OpenAI claiming chat GPT helped their teenage son plan suicide.
	This is what we need.
	This is a direction I can agree with.
	Hold them liable.
	There's no way they can't be held liable for this, unless it's in the EULA, which I'm sure it is.
	Well, even if the EULA cannot...
	unless you're a pharmaceutical company with vaccines.
	Well, that wasn't part of it.
	That's not part of a EULA.
	That was a federal, that was a congressional act.
	Yeah.
	That was a law that was passed.
	Who says that won't be passed for AI?
	Could be.
	I would totally expect it.
	If it happened, I wouldn't be surprised.
	If I recall in the big, beautiful bill, there's a provision in there that says states may not have any laws regarding artificial intelligence for the next 10 years.
	Which I find rather.
	having any laws is one thing.
	Suing over something like this is something else.
	That's different.
	Well, that means there is just everyone is up in arms about this.
	AI stuff because of its smartness because of how incredibly quickly it's going to take away all of our jobs.
	No, it's the beautiful people who are up and arms.
	Retailer J.Crew faces some criticism now for what some are speculating are AI generated images promoting their brand.
	These photos look just like the J.Crew ads of the past, but they may not be real.
	The website Blackbird Spyplane pointed out some glitches in the clothing and photo distortions.
	In a statement released to the cut, J.Crew said it is exploring some new forms of creative expression and experimenting with different art mediums.
	Critics are concerned the AI models are just cutting out workers who would otherwise get paid.
	Oh no, what will beautiful people do?
	They're cutting out the workers.
	The workers, the models, the beautiful men at J.Crew.
	What will they do?
	AI is going to put them on the streets.
	They'll have to be turning tricks now.
	Yeah, they'd go become plumbers.
	Electricians, come on.
	That have the right look.
	And the girls can always find work, let's face it.
	Whoa.
	That's low.
	According to, by the way, the prime, who was this?
	The prime minister?
	was this?
	This was...
	Where is LeChat?
	I want LeChat to seek second opinions on policy decisions.
	Before proposing or enacting a new policy, Christensen asks LeChat questions like, what have others done?
	Should we think the complete opposite?
	Adding that the PM also uses AI platforms to conduct research and bounce ideas around.
	No, that sounds good.
	Nothing.
	Or if it's anything like the lawyers who use it and they come up with phony cases that don't exist.
	Of course.
	But it doesn't matter because this thing is just going to keep on going.
	There's no AI winter coming.
	Nope.
	Bloomberg Surveillance Podcast says good times ahead.
	Keith Terry, Head of Technology and Communications at City Research, says, quote, first, AI analyst on Wall Street believes AI revenue will surge to $780 billion in 2030 from $43 billion this year.
	So from $43 billion to $7, almost $800 billion in six years.
	What do you think?
	Possible?
	Well, the problem is that it's...
	Oh, no, maybe.
	It'll cost $5 trillion to make it, but that may be- Yeah, they can't even get to this point.
	Is this market underpriced?
	Look, that's the way we look at it.
	I mean, you know, we are in the very early stages.
	of this AI cycle.
	A lot of things that sort of matter to driving growth are about to clear in growth's favor.
	The bottlenecks that we've seen in capacity constraints, the model development advances that we're seeing, particularly around agentic AI.
	And then, of course, the biggest of those being what we think could be called AI squared, the idea that AI on its own can start programming AI.
	Ah, that's what I'm looking for.
	AI squared.
	Notice also yesterday that AI is What?
	That's not going to happen.
	No, that's what's coming.
	It's going to program.
	This would be like those boxing robots.
	Rock'em, sock'em robots?
	No, the ones that the Chinese are having matches.
	Have you seen these videos?
	Yeah, we talked about it.
	Here's what I'm going to say.
	I mean, you could kick that robot's ass in a second.
	Like, boom.
	These things just suck.
	The idea that AI on its own can start programming AI.
	I noticed also yesterday that an analyst from eMarker said, we have to see returns on these investments and soon.
	And the threat is these big hyperscalers may pull back on the margin in terms of CapEx if they don't start to see returns soon on the applications, on the AI applications that they're powering.
	What do you think about that?
	Look, I don't think there's any chance of that, right?
	Right, right.
	I mean, we go back a year ago and you had the CEOs of Alphabet, Meta, Microsoft, all get on their earnings calls and say some version of the risk of overinvesting is far less than the risk of underinvesting in this space.
	And then we fast forward a year later and they've all said, you know what?
	Even though we believed that, we actually underinvested and capacity constraints are still there.
	And so you don't see that kind of demand outstripping supply if the returns aren't there.
	IDC has had one that said that, you know.
	One that said that CIOs are getting 3.7x for every dollar they put into AI and the returns, and admittedly, they're early returns, but the early returns show that this stuff is working at enterprise level.
	Oh, it's working at enterprise level, John.
	It's all good.
	The enterprise is into it.
	The enterprise is being Wait a minute, how do you get three point seven times per dollar?
	Give me, so they're getting three dollars seventy cents for every dollar they invest?
	Where's the evidence of this?
	There's no evidence of it.
	None.
	This thing is a scam.
	And it's a scam.
	I mean, it's great.
	This pattern matching is great.
	It's great.
	I love code.
	I code in Python, and I figured it out.
	You got to have three different.
	I want the chat, but I use Grok.
	I use ChatGPT.
	I want to use the chat.
	And you post.
	You know, for a guy who thinks this is a scam and a dead end and a piece of crap, you are all in.
	Let me explain.
	I am all in because I know what this costs.
	while it's still cheap.
	So you're all in because you're taking advantage.
	You think it's like they're shipping a $5 bill for every hour you spend.
	In other words, for all practical.
	purposes, they're sending you money the more you use it.
	Correct.
	I love that part.
	Now, you really have to know what you're doing to get anything functional out of it.
	But even in the past couple of days, the network disc disc connects on Chad GPT and Grock are very frequent.
	And it just sits there and says, oh, the network is disconnected.
	But my internet didn't disconnect.
	So I don't know what your disconnect is, but they throw up this disconnect.
	Look, I run web UI.
	I can run these models at home.
	Takes forever.
	Takes forever.
	You get the answers out of it, but it's just matching.
	I mean, I'm asking things that people have programmed a million times over, and it sucked it all up into the internet and Python code, like, oh, here's the code.
	That's how you do it.
	This someone, some other doofus did this.
	It does that very well.
	Now, it saves me the trip to Stack Overflow.
	But not when I'm trying to run a model at home.
	No, so I might as well run this really quick model while still costing me $20 a month.
	There's no way this condition can sustain itself.
	No, there's no way.
	And it's certainly not thinking..
	Well, nobody ever said it was.
	Oh, we're so close to super intelligence.
	It'll be ChatCPT 6, that'll be the model when it's so we're so close to AGI.
	ASI is next.
	Oh, it's happening.
	It's not.
	But that's the chatbots.
	Oh yeah, that's the business right there.
	Make those cheap and you're in.
	You'll be sued, but make those cheap.
	It'll be worth it.
	You probably hopefully will be sued.
	That'll change everything.
	So I got some international news, which we never play enough of in this show.
	Oh, okay.
	Or I got TikTok clips.
	International news, please.
	I'll take international news for 500, Alex.
	Oh, Indonesia, mesh.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let me see.
	Yes, I have heard about this.
	A friend of mine is on his way to Indonesia, actually.
	Protesters in Indonesia have stormed the homes of several politicians, including the country's finance minister, and looted luxury items.
	There have been widespread demonstrations across the country after lawmakers increased their salaries despite a cost of living crisis.
	Asadestra Ajangrastri reports from Jakarta.
	This week is a fragile one for Indonesia.
	What began as a protest against the additional $3,000 housing allowance for parliament members has now escalated into demonstrations against police brutality.
	The unrest prompted President Bravo Subianto to cancel a scheduled trip to China to personally monitor the situation.
	With protests now entering nearly a week, many people describe the atmosphere in Jakarta and other cities as tense, fearing further clashes between police and the public.
	Hmm, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So they're raiding the parliament members' houses and stealing their stuff.
	Yeah.
	That's how you do it.
	That's how you attention.
	Okay, Now we got a Mexico mess.
	Oh man, another mess.
	Thousands of people have held protests across Mexico to mark the International Day of the Victims of Enforced Disappearances.
	Relatives and friends of missing people, as well as human rights activists, have marched through the streets of Mexico City, Guadalajara, Córdoba, and other cities calling for justice and government action.
	More than 130,000 people are reported as missing in Mexico.
	Esperanza Chávez has been searching for her brother Miguel for more than a decade.
	It's remembering a family member whom we must remember.
	every day that today is the most important one for those of us who have a missing loved one.
	What I would ask of the government and especially of President Shainbaum is that they find them.
	I have been searching for my brother since 2014.
	Most of the disappearances are links to the country's notorious drug cartels, which often target the young and vulnerable.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, we also have coming up is, uh, uh, I'm sure everyone's already putting their packages together to traumatize the American people all over again, which is actually, you know, that I got a note from a millennial mom, Boots on the Ground.
	And it was quite interesting because she said, I want to give you my Boots on the Ground report as a millennial mom.
	And I've heard this before.
	Like, we got screwed, basically.
	You know, we all saw 9-11.
	We got traumatized by it.
	Then, you know, we had the financial.
	crisis, the housing crisis, we got Syoped into, you know, going into debt and getting worthless degrees.
	We were told we'd make, you know, 150,000 dollars, and then COVID.
	And I'm like, yeah.
	Well, doesn't every generation have its horrible, I mean, I remember the Vietnam War.
	I remember my friend's brothers, older brothers coming home in boxes.
	I remember 14% interest rate.
	I remember gas lines up to 20.
	Can you imagine for a house 20 percent?
	Yeah.
	I mean, every generation goes through its incredible trauma.
	You also saw the rise of the internet, online porn.
	Come on, come on now.
	You can't complain about everything.
	A lot of good things happened in your time, but it seems like they is a pity party going on for themselves.
	Pity party.
	Pity party, yeah.
	And I mean, how about think of now you're you're a little bit older than I am, so you do cross into true boomer teromer.
	I'm not like on the cusp.
	So what kind of, I mean, your parents went through World War II, not a little thing.
	And the depression.
	The real depression, not the great recession, but the real depression.
	Yeah, they were in the depression and World War II.
	So what else?
	I mean, let's just line them up because I'm sorry, that's life.
	And somehow.
	It feels to me like the millennials are saying, we got screwed, not like anybody else.
	not true.
	Oh.
	Your sympathy for this woman has no bounds.
	Well, on the other hand, you know, Matt from Martell Hardware?
	Yeah.
	Now, he's a millennial.
	He says our kid's an alpha, a gen alpha.
	Ooh, he's got it.
	Yeah, he's got an alpha.
	We got it all covered by the alphas, but the alphas are just little kids.
	Yeah, but listen to this.
	We enrolled our generation alpha son into an SAT prep course this summer.
	The first thing he said to me when I picked him up after that first session was dad i need a wristwatch how about that so a real one a real one he said uh matt says i ran upstairsstairs, pulled my own, my old Victorinox Swiss Army watch out of a drawer and my son is now wearing this reading clock happily.
	It's good.
	I think we did, I think we helped out somehow.
	I hope so.
	Yeah.
	The months of the year turns out that's not just the US, that's also in the UK, according to Baron of Milford in Staffordshire, England, Commodore of the No Agenda Navy, No Agenda Doctor of Education and Climate Change Science, graduate of the class of twenty twenty four.
	So you know that guy's legit.
	And I see he was.
	was teaching A-level accounting, 16 to 18 year old students at a very good international school in Cambridge between 2019-2024.
	Knowing the months of the year in accounting is crucial for calculation, deprecation, accruals and prepayments, and is a skill that is tested often in exams from A-level to professional exams in bookkeeping, financial accounting, management accounting, financial management papers.
	Students at the school struggled with calculating the number of months to use in an accounting operation and frequently got the answers wrong.
	At first I thought it was a language issue and my lack of direction as a relatively new teacher, but as the years went by it got worse and worse and latterly students could not even tell you how many weeks there were in a year or how many days in a year.
	I had to constantly drill them to get this right in an almost comical fashion as I would with very young primary school students.
	Fellow teachers of the subject told me that it was the same across the UK and state schools, which does not give me hope for the future of the profession that I have been a part of for forty years.
	Don't even know how many weeks there are in a year.
	It's just a number, 52 people, 52.
	It's easy to remember.
	You're a kid, the number 52.
	It's not hard.
	Well, I guess it's like a dozen.
	How many cards in a deck of cards?
	52.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Well, actually, there's usually a couple of jokers in there too.
	Remember the game, the 52 card pickup?
	That was always a good one.
	Wasn't a game.
	No, it was not a game.
	It was not a game.
	Okay, last international clip.
	You know, they talk about everyone over with us, free Palestine, Palestine, Palestine, Palestine.
	Where in the world is the big real problem that's the massive famine, murder, killings?
	Oh, let me guess.
	Let me guess.
	Somewhere in Africa?
	Yeah, Sudan.
	The head of a paramilitary group in a civil war with Sudan's army has been sworn in as the head of a new parallel government, they said in a statement.
	The parallel administration has been condemned by the U.S. and others.
	NPR's Emmanuel Akindoua reports the move pushes the country closer towards a formal partition after two years of a war.
	Mohamed Hamdan Dagalow, the leader of the Paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, was sworn in as the head of a parallel government, the new parallel administration said in a statement.
	The RSF leader, who has rarely been seen in Sudan since the war started, was sworn in in the Sudanese city of Niala, the statement said, and he leads a group that includes armed groups and allied civilian figures.
	The announcement comes amid intense fighting in Sudan, which is suffering the world's largest humanitarian crisis and largest famine in decades.
	The Sudanese army have largely taken control of northern, central and eastern Sudan, while the RSF remains mostly in control of the western region of Darfur, where it's widely accused of committing another genocide against African ethnic groups.
	Emmanuel Akimoto, NPR News, Lagos.
	So what weapons do you think are you being used for in the Sudan war?
	I don't know.
	I'm just gonna guess.
	I'm just gonna guess it's US weapons.
	Well, I think there's probably a lot of Russian weapons too.
	AK-47s are better than our stuff.
	Well, they're certainly built to last.
	Yeah, that's what, yeah, Or it's a more practical product.
	Let me see.
	What are they using?
	Okay, AKs.
	They are using a lot of Russian stuff.
	Some Chinese stuff.
	Hmm.
	UAE.
	The UAE makes stuff?
	I guess.
	Why not?
	It's a good business.
	Oh, interesting.
	Yeah, By the way, I want to mention something.
	I can't find the note.
	I was looking for it.
	So I can give the credit to the person.
	But we finally had a baby named after the show.
	No.
	And you lost the note?
	I'll get the note.
	I'll read it in the next show.
	What is the kid's name?
	Mimi?
	That's it, Mimi?
	Mimi.
	That's the name, Mimi.
	He used Mimi's name instead of you.
	I worked my butt off for eighteen years and they named the kid Mimi?
	Yeah, you did.
	Well now, okay.
	I was waiting for like the second and third name, like Mimi, John, Mimi, Mimi, Mimi, Mimi, Mimi, Mimi.
	Oh, well.
	Yeah, isn't that ironic?
	Yeah.
	The next kid will be named Jay.
	With that, I want to thank you for your courtesy in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the colored fruit loop.
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only mister John C. Yeah, whoa, in the morning, in the morning, Mr. Adam McCurry, in the morning, Ship of Sea, Buster Graphy, and the Air Subs de la Rue, Dames and Nights Out there.
	In the morning, to the control room.
	Hello, control room.
	Hello, control room.
	Not bad for Labor Day weekend, 1973.
	Still a little on the low side, but not as low as I thought it would be.
	It's pretty good.
	Yeah, people are traveling.
	Yes, although they, many, less travelers than expected.
	I heard from AAA.
	So, yeah, yeah.
	Yes.
	And gasoline prices are down, so why travel?
	And people are having staycations.
	Staycations.
	Yeah, the old staycation.
	Yeah.
	And they've got low T. I haven't been to Vegas since COVID.
	Oh, apparently no one has.
	Well, they've got the prices jacked to the max.
	The old buck 99 steak breakfast is all gone.
	Everything's like 50 bucks.
	The buffet, all you can eat.
	Yeah.
	They've jacked up all the prices.
	So I looked into it a little bit because I was listening to all the complaining going on.
	And the whole town has been taken over by an investment company called Vichy, VICI.
	You can look it up and everything's been on except for wind and maybe one other operation.
	The entire city, every one of the casinos, including MGM and Caesars and everybody else, has been bought up by this one company and everything's on a leaseback.
	Vichy Capital, Cleveland based family office dedicated to generating sustainable wealth and preserving it for the future of themselves.
	Our experience doesn't say that.
	So are they that's private equity.
	Private equity and they've bought up everything and it's all leaseback, which I don't know about you, but every time I've seen leaseback as examples of that.
	Like in San Francisco, I think it was a couple of the famous stores, Gumps, I think was one of them.
	Very famous jewelry and trinket shop in San Francisco for high-end goods.
	did one of these lease back deals.
	They said, well, yeah, you can buy your company and go It'll save you all this money and you'll have this cash flow and it's all a positive thing and you have money in the bank and you have working capital and we own the company now, but you get to lease it back.
	So you're still in business.
	And then when you go out of it, and then what happens is that the leaseback.
	company says, you know, we're going to raise your rates.
	Oh, we're going to do this.
	Or we're going to, next thing you know, you're like completely out of business.
	I mean, this is Vegas is just headed for a complete meltdown disaster.
	All the more reason not to go to Vegas.
	Except for the if there's something at the sphere, the sphere, you gotta go see the dead at the sphere, man.
	You know, they have a permanent residency, it seems at the sphere.
	The dead?
	With John Mayer.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, the ladies love John Mayer at the sphere.
	Yeah.
	Well, you're gonna have to take forever to pay that.
	thing off.
	The sphere?
	That thing.
	I think it costs like a couple of billions to build.
	That thing's making money hand over foot.
	I mean, people are especially for the dead show, they're paying up to $1,000.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I don't know if anyone realized it, but Jerry Garcia's dead.
	I know, but John Mayer is there and all the ladies love John Mayer.
	Anyway, the trolls are not in Vegas.
	They're not in the sphere.
	They're in the troll room.
	And I used to say troll room.io, but I got scored for it.
	So I'll say no agendastream.com everybody.
	You can just go to no agendastream.com or you can listen on a modern podcast app to be found at scored at.
	to be found at podcastaps.com.
	And at podcastaps.com you'll find these podcast apps that when you use them instead of a legacy app, man, when you subscribe to the Night and Day.
	It is night and day.
	I mean, you get chapters and transcripts and, you know, all kinds of goodies.
	And a lot of these, you know, if you're like, oh, wow, I really want to support the show, you can hit the boost button or you can hit the, there's a PayPal button in them.
	You just hit that and it goes right to the donation page.
	So you don't have to close out your, you know, open your browser or do anything like that.
	Where do I go?
	No, you can go to noagendadonations.com.
	We can just hit that button.
	It takes you to noagendadonations.com.
	It's beautiful.
	And when we release the bat signal, then automatically, you get an alert on your phone.
	You tap that boom.
	You're listening to the show.
	Bob's your uncle.
	And when we release the show, within 90 seconds of release, you get the show.
	So I highly recommend you get one of these apps.
	They are all of them free to use.
	Some of them have premium features.
	And I suggest you support these podcast app developers.
	We get a lot of support from people in many different ways.
	You heard several boots on the ground, some very detailed.
	ones.
	People always, we have the best producers in the universe.
	And you can help the show by telling someone about it, propagating the formula, as we call it.
	You can organize a meetup.
	There's many things you can do.
	And we used to have artists who really worked very hard on creating artwork for the show.
	Now we have prompt jockeys who are basically doing what anybody can do.
	Well, you still have to have a good idea.
	That's not true.
	What do you mean it's not true?
	You have to know what you're doing.
	That's what I said.
	You have to know what you're doing.
	I said anybody can do it.
	You have to know what you're doing.
	Anyway, I was very discouraged by the art for sale 1794.
	We titled it Heroin Hotties.
	That would, people found that very interesting.
	Although some people did look at the art and go, ah, I can't wait to hear what you guys are talking about.
	This was the clueless kids looking at the calendar.
	Yeah, mixed up calendar.
	Digital 2112, man.
	Now, the problem I have No, it was Jeffrey Rea.
	I thought it was 2112, man.
	Was it Jeffrey Rea?
	Did I get that wrong?
	Oh, I'll have to change the credits.
	I'm sorry.
	You're right.
	It is Jeffrey Rea.
	I'm sorry, Jeffrey.
	I'll change that.
	But everything is a cartoon now.
	Everything is a cartoon.
	And it all has too much orange in it.
	And in fact, it's not a very orangey piece.
	It's got a lot of blue in it.
	It's a cartoon, just another cartoon.
	You hate cartoons.
	You don't like it.
	You don't like the.
	How I mean, I'd rather take the photorealistic, realistic stuff, except like, you get Scaramanga who does great babes, but this, who cares?
	It's just some babes.
	It's just, that's not a no agenda art.
	It's just babes.
	Okay.
	Well, everything is either a cartoon or a drawing with orange.
	It's just, it's, it's, model collapse is imminent.
	Everything Jeffrey Rea does now has orange in.
	Everything Darren O'Neill does has orange in.
	This piece does not have that much orange in it.
	You're complaining about something that doesn't exist.
	And there was a piece that you liked.
	Look, that No Agenda says or it's orange.
	The kid's shirt is orange.
	It's just orange.
	Yes, there's there's two things I like.
	We'll start by saying the Joe Baba Cracker Barrel No Agenda Art.
	Right idea, horrible execution.
	You needed to do a lot more and you could have won.
	But the one we both liked a lot and you chickened out on.
	I'm like, we should use this.
	We should use this.
	I didn't chicken out.
	I was wisely determined I'd wisely vetoed it.
	And we do have a veto on this show, on everything.
	It was the Palestinian guy, he's wearing the shirt, Keep Calm and Blame the Jews.
	I thought it was fantastic.
	And it was done by our shape shifting shekelmeister, Yarmoure.
	Yeah, Yarmoure is Jewish, I believe.
	No, he's donated.
	Yeah, he's donated shekels.
	Yes.
	And I thought that was that was hilarious.
	And you're like, no, we can't do that, man.
	No, I you didn't really push back on me too much.
	I said, I said, we really should do this one.
	And you're like, no, I like the kids.
	I like the kids.
	Yeah, you said you were going to make this argument knowing full well that you're you vetoed it no oh okay so now we're not of course we i vetoed it because we're not using it and then um quarterite you also like the a gaze cousin that's what i'm saying quarterite had the right idea with the a gaze but they're like two chicks in there what are the chicks doing in there with the handsome gay guys it was it was the right idea you had an idea And
	then yeah, we figured that you couldn't prompt the chicks away.
	The chicks weren't promptable.
	Hey, where is my, I need an A-team jingle for the A-guys.
	A-gays.
	A-gays.
	It seems like such an obvious one.
	If you're looking for something done in Washington, D.C., you need the A-gays.
	Come on.
	Come on, jingle makers.
	You guys used to be on the game, on the ball.
	They've dropped it.
	I don't know what happened.
	Gripe, gripe, gripe.
	Jeez.
	Well, okay.
	Gee, I'm really happy that our art is all generated by computers.
	We have no more end-of-show mixes because everyone's just tired of it because it takes actual work, except for the people who send in five-minute songs.
	Look, I made an end of Show Mix.
	It's like, look, I'm a developer now.
	Look at me.
	Developers, developers, developers.
	Exactly.
	So.
	Five minutes.
	That's true.
	They can't seem to prompt it, hey, short, one minute max.
	Wouldn't the prompt take that?
	I don't get it.
	No, I don't think so.
	I think it's very hard.
	It's like prompting out the women in the age gaze piece.
	Yeah.
	I mean, these sumo and all sumo, sumo, I think it is.
	They're they're used to making pop songs.
	You can't do something that it has never done.
	Well, I've never done a pop song that's one minute long.
	I can't do that.
	Here's the structure.
	I don't know how to do it.
	That's exactly it.
	They have a predisposed they're predisposed towards a structure and everything has to fit within the structure.
	Yeah.
	Until.
	Yeah, it's like rector sets.
	Yeah.
	But eventually, we'll have a new Sex Pistols, you know, we'll have a new Lori Anderson, we'll have a we'll have a prince.
	Something new will come along.
	It always does.
	And then the AI will swallow that up and then we'll have thousands of those songs.
	I had Laurie Anderson at the house once.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	Oh, Superman.
	Oh, John.
	Hello, I'm not, what?
	I was like, hello, I'm not home right now.
	I love that song.
	It was eight minutes.
	For those of you who never heard it.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	So what was she doing at the house?
	We had a party and Steve Beck, one of the local, or he was, I think he's in Japan now, a local developer.
	Developer, developer, developer?
	He's an inventor.
	And he, it was his date brought her over.
	No.
	Yeah.
	How was she?
	That's pretty funny.
	You look at her as she comes to you, they come in and you look, you have to stare and you go, that's Lori Anderson.
	Here we go.
	Because she's very distinctive looking.
	Oh, I didn't have the tempo right.
	This is eight minutes and thirty seconds long.
	I love this track.
	Oh, John.
	Oh, John.
	I remember the first time I heard that song on the radio, I was like, wow, what is that?
	So different.
	Anyway, I'm sure you were not a fan of her music.
	She's a nice person.
	There you go.
	Not a fan of the music.
	I mean, it was okay.
	I mean, it's just like, you know, I'm not a fan of a lot of things.
	We also, of course, have producers who understand.
	Oh, man, did you see that guy who sent that note?
	When I hit send, I already regretted hitting send.
	Oh, which I do.
	No, the guy is like, no, I didn't.
	The guy's like, I've been listening 10 years for free, but I would consider donating.
	If you admitted that there are shape shifters, that Q is real, stop rebranding the Great Awakening as the Great Reveal, which we have on it's called the season of reveal and i never say it no no it's only about me obviously yeah i'm the problem if you ask anybody about the show i'm the problem except for the fact that you're the one that produces the show oh no no no no people should realize that i've a couple
	of things i complain about i mean i can complain about a lot of things but i would my one of my main complaints is that no one has recognized officially the the the quality of the production of this show which is all on adam shoulders because he is the cto of this operation That sounds like a disease.
	I'm the CTO of this operation.
	Yeah, the CTO of the operation.
	And he's responsible for the overall sound quality and the fact that the show, the way it goes out and everything in between.
	And he has never received anything for this effort.
	And it irks me.
	And I engineer it.
	People often say, So does John have clips on his sides?
	No.
	Well, well, do I send the clips to Adam?
	Yeah.
	And I don't listen.
	I cue the clips, but I don't No, I don't fly the clips.
	Are you looking at each other?
	Does he give you like a finger sign to cue the clips?
	No.
	I said, do you have a light?
	Does he press a button?
	A light.
	That's what I need.
	Does he press a button and the light comes on?
	No.
	No, we have a mechanism that we use, which is just a queuing system where I'll say something like, I've got this clip about Mexico.
	Yeah.
	And then I'll chat it up and he'll go down the line and make sure I didn't spell it Texaco.
	i feel like i don't see anything under m where is it where is it where is it and then you hear the every once in a while, I can't find the clip.
	And he yells at me.
	Frustrated.
	But there's always, it is my fault in these instances because I type, do a lot of typos on the list.
	I've gotten used to them.
	I know what to look for by now.
	It's okay.
	But the point is, is that this has never been rewarded.
	No.
	A little small trophy.
	I don't think it doesn't bother me.
	What?
	Just send your cash.
	I don't want a trophy.
	Send your cash.
	I don't want any distinctive.
	That's probably true, but still anyway.
	No, but you know.
	So we have a lot of producers who do understand that we need money to keep alive, to stay alive, to pay bills.
	And this is the only income we have and we appreciate that people have kept it going for so long and we'll see how much longer it goes.
	And that, and this is usually when people send me the note, well, you know, you've changed.
	I don't know, have you changed in eighteen years?
	You haven't.
	Everyone changes in eighteen years, but to be honest about it, we haven't since we started off fairly mature, we haven't changed that much.
	No, it's always.
	John is the same.
	You've changed.
	It's always been a Zionist shield.
	It's been going on for a long time.
	And you shouldn't make fun of the producers.
	That's not right.
	We pay your rent.
	Well, that's actually a mistake.
	See, this is a lack of understanding of the formula to say that.
	Because producers like attention.
	The artists like it more.
	The artists are attention driven.
	And so berating them is actually fulfills some sort of idealism that they provide themselves.
	They say, you know, everybody in the.
	world hates the greatness of our art and the fact that we're artists.
	And here's a good example.
	Listen to these guys ragging on us.
	And I'll show them.
	Yeah, but notice they're all gone.
	There's not a single artist left.
	They're all gone, ma'am.
	They're all gone.
	There's actually a drawing in one of these upcoming ones.
	It's a pretty funny one, too.
	No, it's a be more like Scott Horton.
	At least Dave Smith is consistent.
	I'm a human being.
	I'm very inconsistent.
	Scott Horton.
	Yes.
	He did 10 hours with Lex Friedman.
	You should watch this.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's that'll be the day.
	You should watch this.
	Oh, boy.
	I watch a lot that people.
	Yeah, you can watch that.
	That, that, and then you'll be qualified for the COVID shot.
	I'm ready.
	Jack me up, baby.
	We thank everybody.
	$50 and above.
	It's how value for value works.
	We pioneered the concept, the term, and it now lives in many places, and we're happy to see it expanding like that.
	It is really, if you're doing a podcast, just ask.
	the people who are listening to it to support you, particularly if you're doing a hyper local podcast.
	I guarantee you the people in your neighborhood, if you're delivering value, they will support you.
	They will support you in many ways, time, talent or treasure.
	And then we have a special, just because it's kind of how Hollywood works, like if you, if you support us with two hundred dollars or more for an episode, we've got to thank you, just not just thank you.
	We're going to read your note.
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	We like short notes just to make it, you know, fair for everyone else.
	And we'll give you a title, Associate Executive Producer of the Noah Jenner show for that episode $300 or above, you become an executive producer and these credits are real credits, Hollywood style credits.
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	You can use them anywhere credits are recognized, including i mdb dot com and we'll start off with our first executive producer, Sir Scovey.
	He's in Charlotte, North Carolina, comes in with the devil's number 666.66.
	And he says, Jingle Bush just sent your cash ITM John Natham matching donationsation alert.
	Here we go.
	In the morning to Sir Kretchman of the Whitewater Valley in Richmond, Indiana, and to Joe Spry in Savannah, Georgia for their 333.33 donations for 1794.
	Thank you both for your courage.
	You remember this?
	Our matching donation.
	Match 333.33 donations.
	And he has a note here, fellow producers.
	We're only going to do so many of them.
	He's got four left.
	Yes.
	Fellow producers, four more matching donations of 333.33 are available.
	That's up to and including show 1800.
	Producers curious about this matching donation offer refer to the first donation segment for show 1793.
	Love and light, Sir Scovey, the Duke of Piedmont.
	Thank you, Duke of Piedmont.
	This is highly appreciated.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	Thank you very much.
	That's, that is, that's, I think, the first true matching donation we've had, like, that actually came through immediately, I think.
	Kimberly Hillage, Hillage, you think?
	Lakewood, Washington, 550.
	ITM gentlemen, please accept this donation for Secretary General on behalf of my son, Commodore Sharkey.
	This amount brings him to knighthood.
	Please knight him, Sir Sharkey, Secretary General of the Salish Sea.
	Enjoy the rest of your day.
	Kim.
	Gotta love that.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Kim.
	Sure and sweet.
	Scott Reddicker, Great Falls, Montana, 51538, probably 500 with some fees baked in.
	Thank you.
	He says, thanks for the excellent work.
	I'd like to be Secretary General of the Cascade County.
	R two D two karma, please.
	I don't believe I'm a douche, but a washing never hurts.
	You've been deduced.
	Says Scott Ruddiker from Great Falls, Montana.
	You've got Karma.
	Sarcastic, the Nomad in Wyoming.
	Wyoming.
	I don't even know in Pennsylvania.
	Wyoming.
	Wyoming.
	You're missing.
	And why?
	$500.
	This donation takes me to the Baronet status and Secretary General.
	I accept Gitmo Nation if the Peerage Committee allows.
	Sure.
	Join me in the meetup on September 3 in Alabama.
	Yes.
	Sarcastic.
	The Nomad.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Yeah, check it out at noagendameetups.com.
	Carrie Kunkel.
	Carrie Kunkel.
	Ah, she sent me a note.
	Carrie did.
	She said, How can I?
	She says, I'm 63.
	How can I listen to the show live?
	I told her noagendastream.com because that's what I've been told to do.
	Arcadia, Wisconsin.
	Yes.
	Carrie is from Arcadia, Wisconsin.
	$500.
	Arcadia.
	What did I, what did I say?
	I said Arcadia, and then you said it right, then I see no reason for you.
	And then I corrected my correction of your correction of my correction.
	Why are you even talking while I'm talking?
	Because I'm just feeling like it.
	First time donations.
	Well, that should deduce you.
	You've been deduced.
	I know, I just got a flood advisory for Gillespie County.
	Is that where you are?
	I'm in Gillespie County, yeah, but we're up high.
	So we should be okay.
	But anyone who's in Gillespie County, pay attention to these warnings.
	Thanks for bringing humor into my world twice a week.
	Please send Jobs Karma for my daughter.
	Thank you very much.
	Well, of course.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	You thought.
	Carma.
	She only gets humor in her world twice a week.
	That's it.
	It's bleak out there, man.
	Matt in Brighton, UK.
	38282.
	And just since he's from the UK, I do have a bonus clip that we played during these donation segments.
	A double bonus clip.
	All right.
	Bonus clip.
	What is the bonus?
	This is the...
	bonus.
	This is the I'm looking.
	Okay.
	This is onerous.
	UK, no ID, no groceries.
	From September 12, a shocking new supermarket rule comes into effect.
	Without a government issued photo ID, you will not be allowed to enter any supermarket in the UK, even for basic essentials like bread or milk.
	Officials claim it is to stop shop lifting and fraud, but critics say it will destroy daily life for millions.
	This means teenagers, pensioners without passports, and anyone who has simply forgotten their wallet could be turned away at the door.
	Supermarkets will have staff at entrances checking IDs and shoppers say this feels like airport style security just to buy food.
	Campagners warn it's the start of a two tier shopping system that could permanently change the way Britain shops and eats.
	And here's the worst part, fail the ID check once and you could be banned from that store for a month.
	Many are now asking, is this really about safety or is it the beginning of a stricter control system, quietly re shaping how ordinary people live, move, shop, budget and survive in Britain today?
	I have a question about this clip are you sure this is true because your last onerous uk clip turned out to be fake news bro uh yeah about the cash like that uh that people had to pay a thousand pounds uh well no there's a lot of cash restrictions going on but but I have the clip if you want to hear it.
	Everyone was emailing me, of course, because somehow it's all my fault.
	Yeah, well, you played it.
	Well, I think we need to make a culpa.
	You got caught.
	Okay, well, if your clip was bad.
	bad, this could be bad too.
	This guy could be full of shit.
	He might be just a bad actor.
	Okay, well, and people are like, I'm very disappointed you didn't check it out before you just played it.
	You can't check out everything.
	These are just clips.
	Okay, I'm sorry I played a bad clip.
	Yeah, but it's entertaining.
	It was bad.
	Although I will say that the truth of the cash restrictions is that the UK banks could report you under suspicious activity report if you withdraw too much cash.
	That part of it.
	So I give it a half a Pinocchio.
	So Matt in Brighton gives us 382.82 and writes, ITM John and Adam started listening in late 2007.
	I went back and listened from episode one.
	Oh man, you tortured yourself.
	You have kept me dewoked for nearly the last two decades.
	donation completes my knighthood.
	I pay for this with That's where I won the bet.
	I'm glad he didn't listen to me.
	This donation wouldn't be happening if he had listened to me.
	Since then the stock has rallied 190 percent.
	Nice.
	For the round table, I would like to bring to have bong hits and a double IPA.
	There you go.
	All right.
	So he's getting knighted.
	And he's from the UK.
	So he has all that, all those gains from Meta, but he can't withdraw it.
	Matthew Montgomery is in Arvada.
	Arvada, Arvada, Colorado.
	Arvada, Arvada, Arvada, Arvada, I think.
	33 our big dumb mouth gurkha gurkha gurkha they're just durkha durkha muhammad jaha durkha durkha durkha I know what you meant I got you covered Dame Astrid hey she's in Tokyo she's the Duchess the Grand Duchess Also the note came from a combination here looks like Sir Mark is involved Happy birthday Adam $261 Just following up on Dame Astrid's note and donations,
	here's a photographic meetup report from the Idle Beer Bar.
	Klaibloom.
	Klaibloom.
	Saibloom.
	Where we welcomed Sebastian of the Gitmo Lowlands, we were joined by Abhi, Harold, and Brandon, plus more idiots than you could possibly count.
	Idols.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Idols.
	Idols.
	Don't say that about our meetup in time.
	I got my blurred vision.
	The beers were delicious, and the girls especially enjoyed sampling the Stroopwaffel.
	that Sebastian had imported especially for the evening.
	Nice.
	I can just see those Japanese girls going, oh, what the hell?
	What the hell?
	I suspect that John, upon seeing the bar and photos, may finally be tipped over the edge to visit Tokyo.
	I've been there.
	So I have visited, but not you guys.
	It's still ridiculously hot here, so we'll raise a glass of hop idol and fat tug in your honor.
	Fat tug?
	No, that doesn't sound right.
	As we celebrate your birthday, thank you for your courage, Sir Mark.
	Fat tug.
	That's a great name for a beer.
	Oh, wow.
	I get the long one here.
	Eric Studemann, Seneca, Illinois, 250, Associate Executive Producer.
	Dear Mr. Curry, I hope this message finds you well.
	My name is Aaron Suderman and my husband and I are big fans of yours.
	Over the past three years, we have revitalized a historic lumberyard building in Seneca, Illinois.
	Within this space now called the lumberyard, nicely named, we've created a unique coffee shop, retail store, nine professional offices, an art gallery and community gathering spaces, including our own farmer's market.
	Wow.
	I want to visit that.
	Our mission is to spark creativity and connection in a rural town that has so much untapped potential.
	One of the opportunities we're exploring is starting a podcast here at the lumberyard as the podpater and someone who has shaped the medium from its earliest days.
	Your insight would mean the world to us.
	Specifically, we'd love your perspective on.
	Bullet point one.
	What makes a podcast born in a small rural community stand out?
	make it about your community read notes from your community have your community send in stuff that's how you do it don't try to be joe rogan be about your community bullet point two how best to structure and launch so it uplifts both the voices of our town and listeners beyond it focus on your town and launch and tell everybody about it and have those people tell people and if listeners beyond hear it then that's great,
	but focus on your town.
	Three pitfalls we should avoid as first time podcasters building something with local impact.
	Okay, for every podcast, the golden rules.
	One, how long should your podcast be?
	Until you find yourself boring.
	Stop at that moment.
	Second golden rule, no matter the frequency you release, make it on the same day around the same time, whether it's weekly, twice a week, once a month, the same day, the same time.
	If you don't, people who build their lives around your podcast will miss it, will go look for something else and they may never come back.
	Golden rule number three., write a newsletter, no matter how short, to tell people that a new episode is dropping the next day.
	You can also use this to shill for donations.
	Add a sad puppy from time to time.
	Those are my three golden rules.
	We greatly value your time and wisdom.
	We are mailing a check today for $250 as a gesture of thanks for reading and considering our request.
	We listen to your February podcast with Joe Rogan.
	We believe we are vessels for change in our community and your thoughts are appreciated as we explore the best way to get started in bringing a podcast opportunity to our rural community.
	Thank you for all you've done to make podcasting what it is today.
	Your vision continues.es to inspire those of us who believe in the power of voices and stories to connect communities everywhere.
	Yes, and I wrote a hyper local podcast primer, as John would say, on Substack.
	I think it's Adam Scene 1999, Substack.
	And thank you, Aaron, for your support and for your note, and when you have the podcast up and running, send me a link and I'll promote it.
	That's how easy it is.
	In a nutshell.
	What I meant by that was nobody ever asks Adam for his advice.
	That's right.
	But, anyone can do it.
	We don't have to do it on the show.
	You can call him at home.
	Here's my number, 650.
	Rita Stech, Stech, Stech, Stech, 23185.
	Stech, Stech, I'm not sure how to pronounce it.
	But she did send a sheet in like a month ago that Jay carefully put aside and we don't encourage this.
	No, you got lucky.
	She got lucky, but here she is and she wrote this handwritten note and I have to I can do it.
	I can.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	My name is Rita.
	Rhymes with message.
	From Ogden, Dunes, Indiana, on the shore of Lake Michigan.
	The donation is dedicated to my son, Tom, who lives, who is, who, something, who turns 40 on August 31.
	Ah, ah, it's a surprise for Tom.
	Hey, Tom, how are you doing?
	That's Tom, now I get it.
	That's the amount is 231,85.
	Tom introduced me to your show.
	We enjoyed dissecting your discussions since this is a first switcheroo.
	Put the donation under his name is switcheroo Tom.
	Tom.
	He's a busy guy as a financial analyst, a financial planner, something, a volunteer fireman, EMT and a search and rescue guy.
	So maybe we got Ants Jobs and Jobs jingle would be great.
	We got Ants Jobs Jobs.
	Okay.
	Please add his name to the birthday list.
	Should be on there, I think, since this is the whole thing.
	In the future, I plan to donate using the donation button on your site.
	Hope this.
	I hope this will save you more money.
	Yes.
	Actually, Chex is the best.
	Chex is the best, yes.
	Box 339, El Cerrito, California.
	No agenda show.
	Adam's European knowledge and John's boomer perspective.
	And tips are appreciated.
	Keep deconstructing the news for at least four more years.
	Thank you for your attention to this matter.
	Sincerely, Rita.
	P.S. P.D. read on August 31st.
	And that's what you got.
	Yeah, we did it.
	All right, Rita.
	And we'll make sure the switchroom is in for Tom.
	Here's your ants as requested.
	I got ants.
	I got ants.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	You've got karma.
	Wow, it's really coming down here right now.
	Sean Holman is in Noblesville, Indiana, 2911, and he says, God's peace and blessings to all.
	Saint Maria Goretti, pray for us.
	Okay, thank you.
	Loan, and someone hijacked Lindelu Patkins, got counted from Lakewood, Colorado, 2011.
	Oh my, what is this new com copy we have?
	Oh, no.
	Jobs Farmer.
	Well, listen to the greatest podcast in the universe.
	It shows discerning taste and superior intellect.
	It's really only appropriate to put your producer credit on resumes.
	Oh, this is because you asked for this targeting media production entertainment and of course podcasting.
	As your SME on resumes, it's important that you have compelling messaging that shows skills and experience that are most relevant to your target audience.
	Also, there's a limited real estate on a resume, but it's nice to have it on LinkedIn for more subject matter expertiseise go to imagemakersinc dot com dot That's Imagemakers Inc.
	with a K and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of Winning Resumes, Best Linda.
	By the way, I've been reliably informed that SME is pronounced SME for some reason.
	Even though it's subject matter expert and it's an acronym, I've been told it's pronounced SME.
	So if you are able to say SME, I think someone's putting you on.
	Maybe.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
	Let's go for jobs.
	You've got time.
	All right, thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers as always.
	These are very real credits.
	This is just like Hollywood.
	You can put it anywhere that credits are recognized.
	It is good on your LinkedIn.
	It is good on your resume as a SME.
	I'm a subject matter expert in deconstruction from the No Agenda show.
	I helped produce it.
	Executive producer or associate executive producer, of course, you can always put it on your IMDB profile.
	Wait, you don't have an IMDB dot com account?
	Well, you do now because it is official.
	You can use it and we thank these executive and associate executive producers.
	Remember us at noagendadonation dot com is this.
	We go out.
	We'll hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up.
	What's this friendship thing you had?
	I always look, whenever you have a sequence of clips, I always want to make sure we get to it because that means you put some work into it.
	Well, I clipped it.
	And you cut it.
	You clipped and cut.
	I clipped and cut.
	Yeah, you have to cut.
	This is an interesting thing about friendships.
	This was a presentation done on NPR about keeping friends, having friends, and it was so skewed toward the female side of the universe.
	They had nobody that knew what they were talking about.
	It was a pathetic, interesting but pathetic presentation that I couldn't help but clip.
	The story that always comes up is about the serial tricks.
	This morning, a big announcement.
	I'm sorry, that's food dies for some reason.
	Nice dry.
	By the way, this is so well timed.
	Don't say anything.
	I'll cut it out.
	No one will ever notice the difference.
	Why do some friendships survive for decades while others fade away.
	NPR Life hit co-host Marielle Seguerra has tips on how to maintain long-lasting friendships even in the busy season of your life.
	Here's a common scenario.
	You've got this long-standing friend who never seems to make an effort to see you.
	You love them, but you're getting frustrated.
	This can happen, especially if you live far away from each other or you have a lot of responsibilities.
	Nina Badzen, who hosts a podcast about friendship called Dear Nina, Conversations About Friendship, says friendships do take effort.
	but not everyone shows it in the same way.
	I really believe that we just need to redefine what effort looks like because we all have very different skill sets.
	And even with an old friend that we know very well, it's still we're all human and it's still hard not to expect other people to do friendship exactly the way we do or exactly the way it was always done between you and this friend.
	She says, if you find yourself getting frustrated with a friend for this reason, consider the ways they do put in an effort, how they always remember your birthday or send you a text on the day of an important doctor appointment or FaceTime you randomly to check in.
	Also, she says, consider talking to the friend about how you feel.
	You could say something like, look, I love the time we spend together.
	Oh my goodness.
	We need instructions on how to be friends now.
	This is because these people, these liberals, Libjoes that work at NPR have lost most of their friends.
	Oh, that's it.
	They had a meeting like, I'm so lonely.
	Let's do a segment about that.
	But yeah, but I don't want it to be about me being lonely.
	Let's talk about friendship.
	But no, have you ever sent anyone a cute little note on the day of their doctor's appointment?
	Yes.
	Oh, really?
	Not a cute little note.
	I might send a text message to someone who has some kind of issue and they have a doctor's appointment and I will.
	lift them up by saying, Hey man, I'm thinking of you.
	I'm praying for you.
	Yes, I do that regularly.
	Not even friends, by the way.
	Just people.
	Oh, you just do it as some sort of routine.
	That's not a routine.
	It's when I genuinely have you done this before you found Christ?
	No.
	It's the Jewish.
	Okay, so this is religious.
	It's not religious.
	This is part of a new schema.
	So you didn't normally do this because I don't know anybody who does this.
	I know a lot of people who do it.
	Yeah, they're all in that church.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's right.
	How horrible.
	I would find it well, it's not that I would find it offensive that people were spying on me knowing I was going to the doctor.
	No, no.
	It's only if they told me, like, hey man, I got this procedure coming up.
	I'm like, Mike, Mike is 81.
	Mike is such a good guy.
	He's his eyes are all shot, you know, he's like, and he was going for an operation, his eyes were shut for three days.
	So I sent him a note before and I sent him a note after.
	My other buddy, Brent, he went to get his hair planted or something.
	So, you know, and it's I hope you get good luck with your hair planted.
	I would think that was an insulting note.
	I insulted him once it was done because they had to shave off part of his hair.
	So, of course.
	And, you know, then he's like, stop making me laugh.
	It hurts.
	My scalp hurts when I laugh.
	Yeah.
	Yes, I do that.
	Yes, I do.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Sorry to burst your bubble about me.
	And by the way, I think I've also checked in on you when you had your cataract procedure.
	No, you didn't.
	Well, I hadn't found Jesus.
	But I will next time.
	For the next important procedure you have, I'll send you a nice note.
	I would refuse to broadcast to everybody I know a procedure.
	Say I was having, you know, something that had to be done.
	I wouldn't do that.
	I had a tooth removed recently.
	Oh, if I had known, I would have said, hey, man, I'm praying for you.
	Well, I wouldn't want that kind of...
	This is the kind of annoying thing that you've developed, these bad habits.
	Onward to part two.
	And I don't mind that I make a lot of the plans, but...
	I would like to know that you really...
	want these invitations and so every so often if you could initiate one and it gives a friend the opportunity to say oh i'm so glad you said something i love that you reach out first because i just can't get myself together to even see on my calendar when i would have a date opening a conversation can happen then, and you can't have a conversation if you don't bring it up.
	In general, Badzen finds that the friendships that last share two qualities.
	One is people don't keep score or they might keep score, but they check themselves on that.
	The other quality is that the friends give each other the benefit of the doubt.
	Like they assume the best of their friends.
	Here's what that means.
	If a friend forgets to text you or they disappear for a spell, remember they probably have a lot of other stuff going on.
	A lapsing connection doesn't necessarily mean your friendship is over or that they don't care about you.
	And if they do something that hurts you, understand they probably didn't intend to and talk with them about it when you're ready.
	There is a quote I love by a former guest of mine, Rui Kovell is her name.
	And she's an educator.
	She's a relationship coach.
	And she said, there are people who never disappoint us.
	And those people are called acquaintances.
	Yeah, see, I think you're barking up the wrong tree here, man.
	Like there are some people, few, but who I text, we text something every morning.
	And the other day, I didn't text back because I got busy.
	And then my friend text me, say, hey, brother, I'm just checking in because, you know, I haven't heard from you.
	Just want to make sure you're okay.
	I'm like, oh, yeah, no, I forgot.
	And sorry, and thanks for checking in on me.
	And you know, and I've told you about the poop app.
	Did I tell you about the poop app?
	No, but I'm about to hear about it.
	Yeah, so when I poop app.
	Yes.
	So when I when I was visiting Christina last April, I think it was, she said, Dad, dad, dad, you gotta join our league.
	I said, What is this?
	So this is an app called Poop Map.
	And every single time you poop, you you you you you press the button, you drop a poop and then you make up some funny some funny thing like, you know, uh, well, let me read.
	Christina just released some underwear rainbows.
	Demure Mnure took a load off their mind.
	Just made a grand entrance to the septic soiree.
	And this is like eight of her friends and they let me join.
	And if I forget to register my poop, you know, they check in with me, hey, you okay?
	You haven't pooped in the last three days.
	Yeah, this is the modern friendship, man.
	This is how it goes.
	You should get with it.
	You want to join our league?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I think we found out a little bit about it too much.
	It's great.
	Hey, yeah.
	It's a great way to.
	It's great.
	I just pooped.
	Hey, guess what?
	It's like, what, a bunch of three-year-olds?
	Hey, daddy, I pooped in my pants.
	No, because we, no, because we have really the trick is.
	Oh, it's because of the one-liners.
	Yeah, you have to do the one-liners.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	Hey, at least now my kid is alive.
	It's good.
	Part three.
	Badsen says any long-standing friendships are going to require forgiveness and humility.
	It really requires humility to assume the best because what it, what that means, assuming the best means, I don't know the whole story.
	So I'm going to assume there's some information I don't have.
	Okay, one more tip from Fadzen.
	One of the greatest gifts you can give to a longstanding friend is allowing them to change.
	Most of us want to be able to develop and change our mind about things.
	There's not a lot of hope in the world if we have to keep all the same opinions and interests that we had from the time we were, you know, 10 years old, 15, even 20s, even 30s.
	It's really important to give your friends space to try different ways of living.
	As you and your friends navigate romantic partnerships, career changes, illnesses, financial ups and downs, births and deaths, just be there.
	Love them.
	Let them be who they are and who they're becoming.
	This was a total waste of airtime, that's for sure.
	Like, who needs this?
	Either friends or you're not friends.
	There are a bunch of people that have lost a lot of friends to Republicanism.
	And now they're trying to say, it's okay if they become a Republican.
	Maybe you can still say hello.
	Oh, bull crap.
	They're not going to do that.
	You know that that's not true.
	No, but this is wishful thinking.
	is the kind of thing you get on NPR now.
	These people are pathetic.
	Okay.
	And that was the point of it.
	since it is a although we did find out more than we needed to know.
	We went from Jesus to the poop map.
	I don't know, man.
	This is what a show.
	What a show, ladies and gentlemen.
	So you may not play the TikTok three way girl.
	That's a disgusting clip.
	You may play any of the other two.
	Oh, you saw that one.
	Play I saw that one.
	It's dumb.
	It's insultingly dumb.
	Well, I do have a screwball one.
	Yeah.
	By a comed the guy's he's not really a comedian, but he's like, this is the bonus clip that you should have gotten.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I did not know that you didn't text me.
	You didn't.
	Oh, you're right.
	That was my you're right.
	Because I haven't sent a bonus clip in for so long.
	I forgot I was supposed to text you.
	You didn't send me a note like a good friend would do.
	Yeah.
	Hey, I've got a bonus.
	How's your poop coming?
	I got a bonus clip for you.
	So you can you can retrieve it while I explain this.
	Yes, you explain it.
	This guy is a, I can't call him a comic, but he's an absurdist.
	And he uses the concept of reductio ad absurdum to make points.
	And that's a concept that you reduce things to the essence, to the point that it's absolutely absurd.
	And he does this.
	And his main thing is to go after transgenders.
	The whole idea of you're a woman if you say you're a woman.
	Identifiers.
	And so this is one of his better pieces.
	He's identified as Taylor Swift for a while.
	a while but now this is the one where he's identifying And this is the guy's name is Josh Selter.
	And he identified.
	And you have it.
	Yes, I have it.
	I was ready to fire and then you know.
	And he said, and he identifies in this case, and he's got all the right memes in here, including the shaking hands.
	He identifies as an American Indian.
	I am literally shaking right now.
	I went to a casino for the first time in my life.
	And while I was there, I tried the buffet and their wildcot bison.
	As I was driving home, my stomach started going crazy.
	So I stopped at the reservation on the side of the road and ran into the management office.
	Some lady comes out from behind a desk and she's like, can I help you, sir?
	And I said, Yeah, I need to go to the bathroom.
	And she's like, Are you part of the tribe here?
	And I explained to her, I was assigned the wrong origin at birth, but I identify as Native American and I go by walking tomahawk.
	And she was like, Wait, so you're a white guy?
	And I said, Excuse me, bigot?
	Don't dead feather me.
	And it's like, What's wrong with these transphobes that they like go out of their way to misindigenate us?
	It's like, what's so hard to understand that trans indigenous Native Americans are indigenous Native Americansans.
	Like, why do I even have to explain this in 2025 to people?
	So now I don't have anywhere to use a bathroom because I'm trans.
	And it's like, now I'm suffering in my car and I have no bathroom that I can use that matches my national origin.
	Because people want to be bigots and mean transphobes.
	Just be nice, people.
	Just be nice.
	What's the sound effects?
	Well, it's a fort sound, but he's got one of those little devices.
	It's a handheld one.
	He's got it off to you can't see it, but I know he's holding it to the right.
	And it just doesn't sound good.
	So he could have done a better job.
	But I like the trans indigenate or whatever that was.
	Well, what he has down, and this is a pattern I've noticed.
	Well, this is Lily.
	This woman Lily who's on, or guy girl.
	I don't know if the guy could be a complete put on.
	He's the one that's always bitching and moaning.
	Looks like a dude with long hair and lipstick and he's always bitching and moaning on on TikTok for being misgendered and he's always shaking and it's the same and he sounds just like him.
	Uh, and it's it's a pattern.
	Yeah.
	Well, the pattern, see if you want to get likes and you want to get lots of comments, you have to talk about how sad you are.
	This is, I mean, sometimes it's about how mad you are.
	These are a lot of the clips you have, but social media, the success to social media is to view it as a self-pity promotion machine.
	This is what gets you likes.
	If you go on and say, hey, I'm happy today.
	Everything's great.
	You're happy today, everything's great.
	And you get crickets.
	People are This is an interesting observation you're making here.
	Yes, it's possible.
	The self pity promotion machine.
	Everyone just wants to, oh, oh, it's okay.
	You go girl, you'll be okay.
	Praying for you.
	Thoughts and prayers, everything's great.
	The sun will come out tomorrow.
	That, and that's why people do it.
	And this, I think, is a big reason why people who are often on social media are perpetually sad.
	Because all they're, they're just dealing with sadness all day long.
	Because they get more attention being sad.
	Exactly.
	So it's encouraging.
	Yes, sadness.
	This approach to life.
	Yes.
	And then you get a chatbot and the chatbot will make you even sadder.
	I'm not going to argue against that so far.
	Because you're right.
	Most of my clips are something else.
	In fact, I have a couple more, but I would like to play this one.
	This would be the insuperior.
	gal bitching about men being a bunch of stiffs.
	Men don't have rights.
	I think no matter what, a powerful man will simp to a woman.
	Therefore, a woman in every circumstance in life is superior to a man.
	Any man, if you make more money than me, if you're stronger than me and you're taller than me, you'll still simp for me every single time.
	So I'm still superior.
	Yeah, you should have stopped with the trans feather guy.
	This is ridiculous.
	If you can't see her, it's no good.
	It's just Oh, you can't see her anyway.
	No, it's good.
	The key is her being such a superior being and saying that using the word insuperior.
	You're falling for clickbait, man.
	This is just, this is not a real person.
	I'm glad that leads me to the last clip I'm going to play.
	Oh, brother.
	No, listen to this.
	This is the new, you talk about marketing through pharmaceuticals and all the rest of it through these people and clickbait.
	This is, I think, an advertising campaign for Chili's.
	I did some research on the new, they have a new campaign, new campaign manager, a new advertising agency, a new marketing director.
	And this particular TikTok complaint, which seems kind of legit, I think a lot of people believe it.
	I think it's exactly what you're talking about.
	So this is done, this is taken to a level that is beyond, this This is the woman going to leave the country.
	I think I have to get out of America.
	I just saw a commercial that was my breaking point.
	It's a Chili's commercial.
	It's not even a political ad.
	It's just a Chili's commercial.
	And I'm losing my mind.
	I think I have to leave.
	I don't think I can be a part of this world and this culture.
	Oh my God.
	Oh my God.
	This is because of a Chili's ad.
	Oh, please.
	Fake.
	This is designed.
	I don't know why these some of these clips clip off on TikTok.
	This is designed to make you think that she's actually upset by a chili's ad and you're going to be on the lookout for the chili.
	So what ad could be offensive?
	I'm telling you, this is a marketing strategy.
	It's dynamite.
	I'm going to show my food by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
	Yeah, on no agenda In the morning Well, I personally am very happy that we don't have to deal with any of that nonsense and have meetings about that.
	Oh my goodness, can you imagine?
	No.
	Instead, we just ask you to support us with your hard earned cash to keep us going on this show and at least complete eighteen years.
	We can go on for another four.
	It only, only if you want it.
	And John will thank the rest of our supporters in Value for Value Land, fifty dollars and above right now.
	Starting with Anonymous in Staten Island, 161.
	And it's a happy birthday, Adam.
	161.
	Thank you very much.
	Randy O'Rourke in Bradford, Pennsylvania, 105.35.
	And that's a happy birthday.
	Oh, so nice.
	Kevin McLaughlin.
	Well, 8008.
	That's a happy birthday, Adam.
	Thank you.
	No.
	That's his boob donation.
	He comes in later with a birthday donation.
	Oh, he does.
	Oh, what a nice guy.
	He's awesome.
	Commodore Dubs, KM7 BPI, BP, BPI, is that right?
	KM7 BPI 73s.
	Springfield, Oregon, 76, 73, 61.
	This is a ham grip donation.
	Oh, ham gigi, I'm sorry.
	Ham grip.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, hold on.
	Okay.
	I'm Gigi.
	Oh, good lord.
	There we go.
	Today is his mom's birthday.
	Okay, we got her on the birthday list.
	She's on the birthday list.
	Nice.
	Commodore Duke, KM78.
	She was on the birthday list.
	She's on the list.
	Okay, it's BPH, not I. BPH.
	Because my spreadsheet that cut off the H made it look like an I. Franklin Skipton.
	in uh junior in pinsburgh pennsylvania 7313 that's a happy birthday uh janet all good in whatkins whatville, Georgia, 70 with a note, which I don't have.
	I don't have the note either from Janet.
	I don't know what happened.
	But thanks, Janet.
	And then we have Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana, 6502, which is the chip donation.
	Now the rest of these are birthday donations and I'm going to read them all.
	There's the 6430s.
	These are the ones with the extra money added.
	Thanks.
	And then I'm going to go right through the 61s.
	All these are birthday donations for Adam starting with Mark Cram in Durham, North Carolina, who does need a deduction.ced.
	Sean Levinson in Oxford, Ohio.
	Dirty Jersey Whore, your buddy.
	Y'all be good.
	And he is in Texas.
	Dirty Jersey Whores.
	Not in Jersey at all, but he's in Plainwater, Texas.
	He's a Texan.
	Joshua Schmidt in Norwood Young, Minnesota.
	These are all happy birthdays.
	Mickey Keck in Las Vegas, Nevada, and he's got a birthday for Keck Dame.
	Also on your, it's the same as you.
	Tom Jandrin in Clancy, Montana, Angela Wang in Whittier, Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, I told you.
	Yep.
	He came in with a second donation, 6430 for Adam's birthday, John Ferretti, Erie, Pennsylvania, Sir Rob in Pickney, Michigan, and he also has a birthday for himself.
	He got a lot of birthdays today, I can guarantee, September 3.
	Michael Madaloney in Appleton, Wisconsin, Russ Coury in St. Cloud, Florida, Sir Tiggermax in Crittalline.
	Sander von Tahurlahar.
	Sander von at Hüllenhaar.
	Arnheim.
	Arnhem.
	Is it Arnhem?
	Yeah, right.
	Bridge Too Far, Arnhem.
	Commodore Crummy?
	Oh, Commodore Crummy is in El Cahon.
	David Keys in Riverside, California, Christina Henry in Deputy Indiana.
	Dame Christina Pearl and Sir Robert Charles.
	Dame Christina, of course, our Southwest flight attendant.
	Ryan Tepperton in Burnsville, Minnesotaesota, Sir Brent in Castle Rock, Colorado, Dame Rita in Sparks.
	She came in.
	She'd be at the top of the list usually, but she's coming in with the 61 instead.
	We lost money.
	So you cost us money.
	We lost money on the deal.
	You lost money on that one.
	Ryle Davis in Gloversville, New York.
	And that concludes our list of happy well wishers.
	Now we go to Jamie Buell in Vista, Colorado with 6006 along with Les Tarkowski and Kingman.
	with 6006.
	Sarah McMillan in Sydney, Montana, 5798.
	Lisa Mikowski in Sarasota, Florida, 52 52 she makes a note here but the bill gates butter episode was one of the funniest i've heard in a while bill gates butter yeah uh bobby bush uh bobby bow bobby vasseline this vasseline is what you said that was great that was funny bobby bow in bluegrass iowa that's 50 oh now we're at the 50 dollar donor so let's just go through them one after the other leaf
	thompson in meridian idaho nathan noel in netherland texas uh niederland niederland yeah okay Clarence Clark in Jacksonville Beach.
	Terrence Clark.
	What did I say?
	Clarence.
	Oh, hey, Clarence.
	Joshua Johnson in Omaha, Nebraska.
	Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado.
	Scott McCarty in Lodi.
	Jordan Tierney in Orleans, South Dakota.
	And parts unknown is Sir Mix.
	It's a bitcoin.
	It's a bitcoin donation.
	It's a bitcoin donation.
	It's a whole dollar, $50.
	Okay.
	He says, here's some sats for when your stablecoins get turned off.
	One of these days I plan on doing a tour of America and visiting every single one of these places.
	I mean, who wouldn't want to go to Bluegrass, Iowa?
	Who wouldn't want to go to Sydney, Montana?
	Who wouldn't want to go to Court-Daline or Pickney, Michigan?
	Come on, man.
	We should do that.
	We should do a tour.
	You and me, baby.
	I've already been to Court-Daline.
	A motorcycle with a sidecar.
	Yeah, that looks about right.
	We'd be a hoot.
	Thank you to these producers.
	We really appreciate that.
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	It's your birthday, birthday on Noagein.
	And we kick it off with Sir Scott the Jew who says happy birthday to Marty Muscovitz.
	He turns 73 on the 29th.
	Rita Stekic, Stekic, her son Tom, he turns 40., turns 40 today.
	Happy birthday, Tom.
	Sir Brent turns 52 on my birthday, September 3rd.
	Commodore Dubs wishes his mom Leslie Walker a happy one.
	Mickey Keck, happy birthday to Joyce Keck, Dame of the OTR.
	Sir Rob of Pickney is celebrating his birthday.
	And Dame Janet and Sir Island Dogs, happy birthday to Baroness Cici from Greensboro, Georgia.
	She is turning 70 years old.
	then we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah.
	T-T-T-T-T-T-Tidal changes.
	Turning facelessly.
	That's the changes.
	You don't want to be a douchebag.
	Yes, we have an entire peerage ladder here.
	Once you're a knight or a dame, you can keep climbing the ladder.
	Every additional thousand dollars in aggregate, of course, that you send automatically gets you up to the next level.
	And Sarcastic the Nomad becomes a baronet today.
	And we say happy birthday.
	We say congratulations to him on his title change in the No Agenda Peerage Ladder.
	And we have a couple a number of Secretary Generals to congratulate.
	Anybody can become a Secretary General, but it is a real official title, just like Mark Rutte, the Secretary General of NATO.
	You can become whatever you want.
	And we congratulate Sir Scovey, Sir Sharkey, who will be the Secretary General of the Salish Sea, Scott Redeker, who will be the Secretary General of Cascade County, Sir Castick the Nomad, the Secretary General name to be determined, and Kerry Konkel.
	All of you are now officially Secretretary Generals, because they are the ones who need hailing.
	All hail to the Secretary Generals on the No Agenda Show.
	And we have two knights to welcome up onto the podium today.
	So there is my sword if you've got a blade, John.
	There you go.
	Ooh, that's a Niagara.
	Nice one.
	Commodore Sharkey, come on over.
	And Matt, both of you have supported the show in the mind of $1,000 or more.
	That means I get to pronounce the case officially as Sir Sharky, Secretary General of the Sailor Sea, and Sir Matt.
	Also with that, we have beer and blunts, we have Rubeness Women and Rose, we have Geishas and Sake, vodka and vanilla.
	Along with the IPA, we also have some Bong Hits with some bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablam, cowgirls and coffin garnish, organic macaroni and plasticizers, and of course, we always have the mutton and the mead.
	Now for the Secretary Generals, I believe you can go to noagenderings dot com soon.
	There will be the order form to have your very official certificate., no, it's a different word.
	Your proclamation of your Secretary General's will be able to order there with the name you want, the address you want it sent to.
	And of course, for our brand new Knights, you can go there, take a look at your No Agenda Ring, which will be coming to you.
	It is a signet ring, so that means you always receive some sticks of wax to seal your important correspondence.
	And we always have a certificate of authenticity there for you as well.
	Welcome, both of you, to the Roundtable of No Agenda Knights and Dames.
	No Agenda Beyond.
	Yeah, baby., the No Agenda Meetups, everyone knows all about them.
	We are the only podcast that has this level of meetups, this level of organization, noagendameetups.com where you can schedule them, you can find them.
	This is where you find protection because that's what connection always gives you.
	These people that you meet at the meetups will be your responders in an emergency, your first responders.
	And as always, Leo Bravo is out in California.
	He has Flight of the No Agendas number 66.
	A lot of people showed up.
	Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo at Meetup number 66.
	I'm passing a phone around in the barn and down here at the HMS Bounty at Flight of the No Agenda., number 66.
	Can't wait for 666.
	Hey, John and Body Warren Bobby here.
	Our first meetup.
	My two human resources, Bella and Uriah.
	I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to make it out here because Kamala told me not to come.
	I looked her square in the eye and I said, I'm going to come.
	I'm passing the mic down to my daughter first, Isabella.
	Donate to No Agenda.
	And my son, Uriah.
	God save the Queen, man.
	If I could do a quick shout out to my colleague.
	He's a long time douchebag.
	Listening to your show for thirteen years and has never donated a red cent.
	His name is still Sean Sobluski.
	Douchebag call out.
	Hey, John and Adam., Sir Leah Kim Fopop here in the communist stronghold of Los Angeles and I have not stepped on any poop today.
	Sir Robertson is who sticks here having a great time with everyone.
	I drove down four and a half to actually closer to five hours for this meetup and I'm happy to be here.
	Thank you, everyone.
	In the morning.
	Love the dedication of the Flight of the No Agendas out there in Southern California.
	Here's a local 360 meetup.
	In the morning from the vault in Blaine, Washington, this is Dame J, protector of pandas.
	Hi, my name is Annalise and I served the No Agenda podcast today and they were, you know, absolutely horrible.
	I'm just getting.
	They were amazing.
	They were a blast.
	And I hope they enjoyed being here as much as I did them here.
	So there you go.
	Hi, this is Allen AKA Circumcision.
	Where I can see socialism from my deck.
	Not a spook, but they frequently come here and I can't see anything else.
	Sir Ryan the Refiner here, deconstructing news and constructing friendship In the morning.
	This is Travis in the morning.
	Not a night, but not a douchebag.
	We'll keep working on it.
	This is Jason and I'm glad the beer.
	It's been a year since we've had one of these, so we gotta get these more frequent.
	Thank you very much.
	In the morning.
	And our last meetup report, nice to have the server in there as well.
	Remember to get your servers in these meetup reports.
	This is the unofficial Maastricht meetup, very small.
	Hi, Jon and Ellen.
	This is the unofficial Maastricht meetup report.
	I joined one other producer.
	Here is Roland.
	In the morning, this is Roland's connection is protection.
	Also listen to randumbthoughts dot com online.
	In the morning.
	And still coming, we got some meetups taking place.
	Actually, we have one taking place right now, the annual South Jersey Pig Roast.
	It's at Dane Wen's house in Medford Lakes, New Jersey.
	I can't wait to hear the meetup reports from that.
	On my birthday, September 3, Huntsville Area meetup, 6 o'clock at the Old Bear Brewing in Madison, Alabama.
	On Thursday, our next show day, the Northern Wake September Soiree, six o'clock at Hoppy Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina, and on Thursday, the fourth as well, the Houston Lazy Dog monthly meetup, six thirty at Lazy Dog Restaurant and Bar in Houston, Texas.
	Many more meetups come up, including the seventh in Hofdorp, the Netherlands, South Slocum, British Columbia, Canada.
	On the eighth, on the thirteenth, Keyport, New Jersey, Oakland, California, the nineteenth, Tilburgh in the Netherlands.
	On the twentieth, Bedford, Texas, Fort Wayne, Indiana, on the thirtieth, all the way to October on the tenth, Johnson City, Texas, not far from Fredericksburg, where we'll have a meetup on the eleventh.
	I will be there along the with Tina the Keeper, I hope.
	That's it, noagendameetups dot com dot Go there to find out all about the meetups, where they will be taking place in your town.
	If they're not anywhere near you, start one yourself.
	It's easy.
	Sometimes you want to hang out with all the nights and days.
	You'll be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.
	You'll be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Well, I can't believe this happened.
	I have no ISO and I don't know think you have one either.
	No, but I have a song.
	You have a song?
	Yeah, you won't find it just by looking.
	It's the Kilmar is our neighbor.
	Kilmar is our neighbor.
	You can't have any trouble.
	No!
	Kilmar is our neighbor.
	You can't have any trouble.
	That's horrible.
	We can't.
	You haven't heard that yet?
	No.
	No, I don't even know what it means.
	Kilmar Albrego Garcia is our neighbor.
	Yeah, this is not an end of show ISO.
	Oh, okay, well, go dig into the archives.
	You only have a million of these things.
	Let's try this one.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	Got that one.
	I got I have feelings.
	There it is.
	Okay, I have feelings it is.
	And now, everybody, it's time once again for John's illustrious tip of the day.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with J.C.D.
	And sometimes Adam.
	you Oh, this is the screwball one, but I have to say, it's dynamite tip of the day.
	Black garlic.
	Black garlic, that sounds nasty.
	So black garlic, and you can buy it by the bulb.
	And you can also, there's a different version.
	There's also, they make a paste out of it.
	So black garlic, I knew about it, but I was forced to try it.
	And Mimi's a big fan of this stuff because she claims, and she's got one of those bracelets on it, measures everything she does, blood pressure oxygen she says you take this you eat the black garlic and your blood pressure drops like a rock but besides the medical aspect black garlic which turns out to be because i was irked by it when i tried it i said this is unbelievable uh you get a clove you pull a garlic clove out and you eat it it tastes like chocolate it's black
	it it has the texture of roasted garlic but it but it doesn't taste anything like garlic and it was and i said this is i was so irked by it trying it i said that i'm i have i'd like to so supposed a dilettante gourmet i should have known about this years ago.
	It turns out it's only invented in 2004 in Korea, but further research indicates it comes from a 4,000-year-old idea, a recipe that some guy rediscovered in 2004 about how to ferment garlic.
	And it's a fermented garlic in the bulb, within the bulb, and you need special temperatures and pressures and everything in between to get it to work.
	And it's not necessarily cheap.
	You get like a couple of bulbs cost about six bucks, seven bucks, maybe.
	And you can eat it or you can mix it with stuff.
	It would be good spread on bread with avocado toast, you know, it's just it's an astonishing it it smacks a little like chocolate.
	It's got a gorgeous texture.
	It is a fabulous thing that I would never have had unless I was forced to try it.
	Gorgeous texture.
	It's just fabulous.
	It's fabulous.
	It's super gay.
	I don't know what's up with that.
	Well, it just was a it's amazing.
	So who and how was this 4000 year old recipe codified and what was it written on stone?
	Was it in hieroglyphics?
	It was somebody dug it out.
	It's a Korean researcher found this recipe, I suppose, and they passed it along.
	It's this guy.
	Some guy perfected how to make it in Korea because it's a process you can do it at home, but it's like don't.
	Wow.
	It's just too much work.
	It takes a, it's, I mean, you can do fermentations at home.
	You could do cabbage and different pickles and things, but it, in fact, this takes very specialized temperatures and pressures.
	And there it is, another awesome food tip of the day.
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