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	It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, October 10th, 2024.
	This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1702.
	This is No Agenda.
	We're unedited by CBS, and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we advise you to stop using the word triage.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	I think we should use that all the time during our show.
	We're triaging all the clips we got, triaging all the boots on the ground so we can make sure we get all the right stuff out there.
	Triaging. I kind of like it.
	Yeah. Sorry.
	I was watching one of the Fox shows, the Fox...
	Fox Morning Chatterboxes.
	They like to say triage for everything.
	The Fox Chatterbox.
	There you go. That's a good one.
	The Fox Chatterbox.
	Yeah, the triage. So it seems to me, like, okay, it sucks, but I think the weather people kind of got it all wrong.
	Wasn't everyone supposed to be dead and destroyed and everything swept away and the storm surge drowned everybody?
	Yet they forgot to predict the tornadoes?
	126 of them, to be exact.
	Where was that prediction? I didn't hear anyone say...
	Well, it matters not they can predict the climate, but they can't predict this.
	Yeah. It happens the next day.
	Yeah, of course we're...
	We are, of course. By the way, I want to say that Santis...
	DeSantis. DeSantis.
	DeSantis. I was watching his entire press conference.
	This guy really is a good governor.
	Oh, yeah. He just seems to be on top of everything.
	He's got the facts in front of him.
	He goes on and on and on.
	He's got all kinds of details.
	He's smart enough to do stuff in advance.
	And the thing that impressed me most was a couple of days ago when he says, you know, we're closing all the toll booths on all this expressway so people can get out of there without having to stop and pay five bucks to get through.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	He said just one thing after another.
	If it wasn't for that whiny voice of his...
	And even though he's not wearing the white boots, you still can't get that out of your head.
	You still see him with the white boots.
	It's hard to visualize him without those.
	Competency, there's a combination of things, but he's definitely a governor you'd like to have as a governor.
	Yes. But every...
	I mean, we have lots of friends and lots of...
	Of course, there's lots of producers in Florida.
	And the reporting was just freaking everybody out.
	It was... And of course, it's not great.
	There's no doubt. No doubt there's a problem.
	But it's not at all the destruction that we were sold.
	I feel gypped. The tornadoes.
	That's the thing that got me, though.
	Not a single mention of that.
	And these were not like little tornadoes.
	These were big twisters just appeared out of nowhere.
	Yeah, they were blowing up stuff left and right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the funny, there was mention that, you know, in Florida, where they do have tornadoes on occasion, especially with accompanying some hurricanes, you can't build tornado shelters because the water table is so high.
	No, you can't. It's like, you know, the water table is right under the house.
	So, of course, we hope everyone's okay and that the damage isn't too bad.
	We won't know really for a little bit, but they had no good reports.
	They didn't have anyone blowing over from the wind.
	The wind didn't even seem...
	I mean, you know, I've been doing a little...
	Oh, man. By the way, Cooper...
	Pooper?
	Yeah, Pooper.
	He was on CNN. He got hit by debris.
	Oh, no! Yeah, it was a piece of styrofoam hit him, and it was like a disaster.
	Oh! I don't want to make light of it because if your house is flooded, it sucks.
	Or even gone.
	If it's gone.
	The wind damage seemed to be pretty minimal.
	I don't think so.
	The wind damage was all the damage.
	Well, here's the one that made me kind of smile.
	And take a look at this video just into the newsroom from Tropicana Field in St.
	Petersburg, where the stadium's rooftop has literally been torn apart by the winds from Hurricane Milton.
	You may remember Tropicana Field was transformed into a shelter for first responders ahead of the big storm.
	So, it's a stadium with a vinyl roof.
	We're a team plays that no one cares about, but that was the news.
	That was a very flimsy roof.
	It looked just like vinyl.
	It was. Yeah.
	So, okay. It was just a coated roof.
	It wasn't really, it was more of a balloon roof.
	Yeah. So, of course, the...
	I will say, by the way, I will say the sound really does stink.
	What do you mean? What you're hearing from me?
	Yeah. It's not like it's...
	I don't know what the chat room thinks, but it's not like it...
	I can't understand you.
	It's just like a lousy phone connection.
	Oh, that's interesting. It sounds good for everyone there.
	Let me see. Is there a...
	Let me see. I want to make sure...
	Oh, speech optimized. We don't want that.
	We want music optimized. Hold on a second.
	Let me see if that'll break everything.
	For your musical tones?
	Yeah. Yeah.
	Yes. For my musical stylings, John.
	For my musical stylings. Styling.
	I'm sorry. I blew it. Maybe that's better.
	I don't know. But what you're hearing is not what's recording.
	So, of course, I can't get away from...
	They modified the weather.
	They seeded the clouds.
	They steered it that way.
	DeSantis had a good commentary on this, too.
	I wish I had clipped it. It came in late.
	It was this morning. He said, he basically said, he did a good job of balancing it because he condemned the idea that they were changing the weather because it's hurricanes.
	He said, this happens all the time.
	The worst hurricane he points out was on the famous Labor Day hurricane of the 1930s, which was worse than anything.
	Mm-hmm. And he says, this is hurricane season, it's hurricane weather, and you get these hurricanes.
	He says, but it's not just the right, not mentioning Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	He says, it's also the left who blames everything on fossil fuels.
	So he did a really good balancing act.
	This guy is a very talented governor.
	Well, there was a... So I have a couple of clips because it was worth playing since Biden...
	They rolled Biden out. This may have been the real Biden.
	You can't tell when he's...
	If he's not standing up, it's hard to see.
	If I can't see the back of his head, I don't know if it's Biden or daddy long legs.
	But he came out and slurred something about an onslaught of lies.
	There's simply no place for this to happen.
	Former President Trump has led the onslaught of lies.
	Lies!
	Assessments have been made that property is being confiscated.
	That's simply not true.
	They're saying people impacted by these storms will receive $750 in cash and no more.
	That's simply not true.
	He never said that. The money is needed for this crisis is being diverted to migrants.
	What a ridiculous thing to say.
	It's not true. Now the claims are getting even more bizarre.
	Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene, a congresswoman of Georgia, is now saying the federal government is literally controlling the weather.
	We're controlling the weather. It's beyond ridiculous.
	It's got to stop.
	Moments like this, there are no red or blue states.
	There's one United States of America where neighbors are helping neighbors.
	Volunteers and first responders are risking everything, including their own lives, to help their fellow Americans.
	So that was real stately there, Joe.
	And MSNBC really ran with this ball.
	And thank goodness...
	We're connecting this to climate change.
	I mean, it took, they didn't do it.
	I've got clips.
	They didn't do it during Helene, but oh no.
	They did it big time on this one.
	Yeah, so I'm going to just start with a few, and then I'll do a few Chris Hayes clips, because man, he was hot over there on MSNBC. Hurricane Helene.
	I thought you were going to say thank God for MSNBC because nobody listens to it.
	Well, no. I mean, they need us.
	They need us to get any listenership, and here you go.
	Now, Hurricane Helene just showed us how this phenomenon is wreaking havoc, even in areas previously thought to be safe from these kinds of storms.
	Tucked away deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains...
	Asheville, North Carolina, was considered a little slice of paradise.
	Some called it a climate haven, suggesting it was immune to extreme weather.
	Now, I don't know where MSNBC got this idea from.
	What? Because there was an equally large storm in 1916.
	There was one as recent as 2014.
	What? But then they have this footage of birds chirping and, oh, it's a haven.
	We're safe here.
	But last week, that paradise turned out to be an illusion.
	Oh my god. Battering the area for days.
	Hold on. Stop a second.
	Stop, stop. You know, this is an interesting form of reporting where you create a false scenario.
	Yeah. And then you report on it.
	It's a classic.
	This is what these guys do.
	They should be ashamed of themselves at NBC News.
	No, I think they're doing a great job.
	They're doing exactly what they're paid to do to promote climate change and at the same time discredit Trump and anyone else who's in his camp.
	Ripping apart homes, washing out roads, toppling trees, and cutting off entire towns.
	New research out this week says there is strong evidence human-driven climate change strengthened Helene's destructive power.
	Strong evidence Helene strengthened by human-made climate change.
	So it just strengthened it.
	It's a multiplier, a force multiplier.
	The term is rapid intensification.
	We'll get to that. Human-driven climate change strengthened Helene's destructive power.
	One study saying it made the storm's rainfall up to 20% heavier and its winds 7% stronger.
	We're seeing these events that are boosted by climate change stronger, wetter, lasting longer.
	Another report found that a warmer climate led to 50% more rain over parts of the Carolinas and Georgia than would have been expected.
	You know, just as a little Entremont clip here, so it's stronger, it's wetter.
	PBS had this to say about last year.
	And 2023 was the driest year for the world's rivers in more than three decades.
	I mean, make up your mind.
	Is it going to be wetter or is it going to be drier?
	I mean, they can't seem to figure out what it's going to be.
	Unfortunately, there's no coordinated...
	Yeah, there's no messaging. No central command.
	Exactly. If they set that up, we wouldn't have these issues.
	Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, we're available.
	We could do it. We're available. We're available.
	All right, so let's just face the fact climate change is responsible for everything.
	Storms like Helene and what we expect to come from Milton are exactly, precisely, what experts have been screaming about for decades now.
	As John Morales told Nicole Wallace, it is why he got so emotional over last night's forecast.
	When I saw 50 millibars in 10 hours, I just broke down with a mixture of empathy, angst over these increasing extreme weather events, and also frustration.
	Because for over 20 years, I've been trying to communicate on what would be coming if we did not check The injection of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
	Injection! And well, here we are.
	And it's not going to get any better.
	This guy was crying on the air.
	I have, you know, this is funny you have that clip from Chris Hayes because...
	In my little series of hurricane clips, it's included exactly this, well, not exactly, but pretty much the same clip, only he's crying more, from NPR. The same guy?
	This is the coordinated effort.
	Do you know which clip that is?
	Can we play that real quick? I'd rather play the whole series.
	Okay, alright, alright, I'll get through this. So, we are now preparing for the second major climate change-fueled hurricane in two weeks, which could put a dangerous strain on federal resources.
	Climate-fueled.
	New York Times reports the Federal Emergency Management Agency is running out of staff to deal with the potential devastation of Hurricane Nolan.
	As of Monday morning, just 9% of FEMA's personnel were available to respond to the hurricane or other disasters.
	Now, while FEMA says it is well-equipped to handle the strains, it is a reminder the challenge of more frequent natural disasters.
	What did he say?
	He said 9% responded to the...
	Was it Helene?
	Yes. Well, I thought they were all hands on deck.
	Yeah, but the rest is at the border.
	Helping people at the border, getting them into hotels.
	As of Monday morning, just 9% of FEMA's personnel were available to respond.
	Oh, that was available. Where's 90%?
	Where are the other 91%?
	That must be in Western North Carolina.
	And there's thousands and thousands of people.
	Well, I hope they're in Western North Carolina.
	But they should have figured out anyway.
	Let's just continue. The hurricane or other disasters.
	Now, while FEMA says it is well-equipped to handle the strains, it is a reminder of the challenge of more frequent natural disasters.
	The Times noting that FEMA is also responding to flooding and land signs in Vermont, tornadoes in Kansas, the aftermath of Tropical Storm Debbie in New York and Georgia, and the Watch Fire in Arizona.
	And those are just disasters that were declared in the past two weeks.
	Okay, so now Chris gets into...
	Wait, I want to point out, I want you to remember that he said more frequent.
	Yeah, more frequent.
	Because in my series of clips, I got a little contradiction in here.
	Good. Good. So now Chris Hayes gets into some math, which is just astounding.
	I'm not a climate scientist, nor is he.
	Remember, what I'm telling you right now, what we're looking at right now in the last week, what we're preparing for with Milton, this is what we are now facing with global average temperatures a little over one degree Celsius higher than the pre-industrial average.
	Okay, one. That's one percent.
	Imagine what it will look like when we reach two degrees, twice as bad.
	Oh, so if it's two degrees, then it'll be twice as bad.
	Or three. Or four.
	That is the world.
	It'll be four times as bad if it's four.
	Wait, wait. So let's see.
	It goes from, let's say, one degree higher, which would be a 0.5%, some small percentage, but somehow it's going to be twice as bad?
	It's going to double. And if it's three degrees...
	How does that work? Exactly.
	Exactly. It's fake news!
	Or three, or four.
	That is the world Donald Trump would push us towards if he returns to the White House.
	Not that he cares. He thinks it would be good for real estate values.
	When I hear these people talking about global warming, that's the global warming you have to worry about.
	Not that the ocean's gonna rise in 400 years, an eighth of an inch, and you'll have more seafront property, right, if that happens.
	I said, is that good or bad?
	I said, isn't that a good thing?
	If I have a little property on the ocean, I have a little bit more property.
	I have a little bit more ocean.
	Okay, every time I play this clip, we just gotta stop for one second.
	Think about that for, give it ten seconds of your brain power.
	Okay. If the oceans rise, do you have more beachfront property?
	Does that make sense? If the oceans rise, do you have more beachfront or you have less, right?
	You said more ocean.
	Anyway, so at least we know it's all Donald Trump's fault.
	Yes, Donald Trump's fault. And I will play this last clip, and then we'll play your clips, and then I'll come back to some of the conspiracy theories.
	This has got to be my favorite.
	Now, we've known for decades our planet is warming, that we would start seeing the brutal effects...
	But conservatives remain so deep in their denial, they're flailing around for anyone or anything else to blame.
	Republican Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is now like a big mover and shaker in the Republican Party, is promoting a bizarre conspiracy theory about a mysterious they.
	You can imagine who that is.
	So on the screen they have her tweet which says, yes, they can control the weather.
	Always remember that.
	So that's what she said.
	And I think we can prove that that is probably true, not that this was the case, but that's the tweet.
	Controlling the weather, suggesting that they are sending hurricanes to Republican areas to impact the election.
	Like, someone is sitting at some computer somewhere pressing hurricane.
	And it's not just her. She's now being amplified by right-wing media and the Republican nominee himself.
	Chris, Chris, decaf.
	Has the government figured out how to build a storm into a super storm that will destroy everything in its path and then how to aim it right?
	Now he's just playing some rando guys from, I don't know, YouTube or whatever, who are just talking crap.
	But when they want to aim it, it just happens to miss South Florida, where all the Democrats live.
	Something strange is going on.
	These are Trump counties.
	Why do we hire some actors to do stuff like this?
	This is great. This is great. Something strange is going on.
	These are Trump counties.
	And don't tell me for a second, don't tell me for a second that what we're not seeing is a massive government-pushed voter suppression operation.
	You know, it's largely a Republican area, so some people say they did it for that reason.
	I don't even think they're that bad, but they probably may.
	Random, random clip.
	Random clip.
	Making it sound like Trump is talking about some weather modification, which he's not.
	Maybe they are. They're sending the storms.
	They are sending the storms. Donald Trump's running, made J.D. Vance found a way to get in on it, too, blaming it on an immigrant.
	You have FEMA, which is there for disaster relief for American citizens after a terrible storm.
	Being deployed repeatedly to deal with Kamala Harris' wide-open border and the migrant invasion that it's caused, that lack of focus on their core mission, that distraction, and focusing instead on illegal immigrants, I guarantee that it has made the disaster response worse.
	All right, so I want to come back to those conspiracy theories.
	Wait, wait, wait. What? Did he, did he, was that played on his show?
	That was Vance. That last part of the clip?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. He played that.
	That's dumb. I'm saying that because he's trying to build a case and then he throws something out there, which actually is reasonable.
	Yes. And if I'm listening to it, he'll say, oh, that's interesting.
	I mean, these guys don't even know how to do this right.
	All right. So I want to come back to the weather modification and conspiracy theories, but first let's get into your clips before we drift too far.
	Yeah, let's get these out of the way. This is a series that's on NPR. This is part of a long presentation on Hurricane Overview.
	And it brings in everything we need.
	It starts with Hurricane Overview, N-O-A-A. The damage Hurricane Milton could cause is chilling, but maybe it shouldn't be surprising.
	This season is looking to be an extraordinary one in a number of ways.
	That was Rick Spinrad, head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last May, rolling out the federal agency's annual hurricane outlook.
	NOAA is predicting an above-average 2024 Atlantic hurricane season.
	Of note, the forecast for named storms, hurricanes, and major hurricanes is the highest NOAA has ever issued for the May outlook.
	One big reason for that record-breaking hurricane forecast?
	Record-breaking hot water temperatures in the Atlantic Ocean and the Gulf of Mexico.
	Now, the number of hurricanes this year has not yet broken records, but the intensity of some of the storms has been breathtaking.
	It's just an incredible, incredible, incredible hurricane.
	Incredible, incredible, incredible.
	I didn't do that, by the way.
	Oh, really? That sounded like a Dvorak repeats sweetening.
	Oh, interesting. All right.
	He said that. All right.
	So it goes on. This is like they're trying to build a case for...
	What do you think they're going to build a case for?
	And it comes up right away.
	I did early in the clippage.
	That hot water in the Gulf allows storms to intensify at unbelievable speeds, as Hurricane Milton did on Monday afternoon.
	A fact that moved veteran Florida meteorologist John Morales nearly to tears.
	He has dropped 50 millibars.
	Oh! In ten hours.
	I apologize.
	This is just horrific.
	Later in that same report, Morales cited those hot ocean temperatures and explained where they came from.
	You know what's driving that.
	I don't need to tell you. Global warming, climate change leading to this and becoming an increasing threat.
	You know, it's interesting.
	Tina lived in Florida for 15 years, lived through a number of hurricanes.
	And I said, was the millibar, was the pressure ever an issue?
	I don't know anything about that.
	No one ever talked about millibars.
	It's always been the wind speed.
	This seems to be a new metric they're pulling in.
	That's interesting. You're right, because I've noticed it before.
	Now, I think what's also interesting, I hate to overuse that word, but is this guy's in tears.
	He's obviously an emotional wreck.
	Probably somebody you shouldn't trust with your children.
	Or guns. Or guns.
	Definitely no guns with that guy.
	Red flag. So this is the guy that goes right to climate change.
	So he's an unstable person now.
	He's going and talking about climate change.
	This is like, okay, I shouldn't even be listening to this guy if he can't objectively report on the news without crying about it.
	Well, he was doing his job.
	He's an actor. NPR climate editor Rachel Waldholz has been looking into how a warming planet contributes to these storms and what climate change could mean for the future of catastrophic weather events.
	Hi, Rachel. Hi, Ari.
	First to lean now, Milton.
	Are these two massive hurricanes in just about two weeks evidence that we are seeing more frequent storm activity than in the past?
	So actually, no.
	No, no! You better come up with something better than that!
	So, that's why I wanted to call back to Chris Hayes saying they're more frequent.
	Yeah, he's full of crap.
	Yeah, he's totally full of crap.
	Yeah, I mean, the numbers are there.
	Everyone can see the numbers. There's just been less of them, certainly this year.
	So let's go. Okay. So onward to four.
	We haven't seen an increase in the number of hurricanes hitting the U.S. But climate change is making many storms more intense.
	So more powerful with way more rain, more dangerous storm surge, more flooding.
	And so while the total number of hurricanes isn't increasing, dangerous storms are becoming more common.
	And that can definitely make it feel like we're getting more overall.
	So let's get to the climate change piece of this.
	We know that a warming planet includes warming oceans.
	Explain why warming oceans helped a storm like Milton explode into a Category 5 as it moved across the Gulf before eventually weakening.
	Yeah. Yes. Exploded before it actually got to landfall, and it was a 3 by the time.
	It actually crapped out. Yeah, it did.
	It did. So, we have this narrative going on, and it's like, right in the middle of it, you have to do a callback to, climate isn't weather.
	Yes, correct.
	They pounded it into us, climate isn't weather.
	Weather isn't climate, I think was the exact phrase.
	Either one. Yes.
	It's the same thing. But the point is, is that they'd always bring that out when it was freezing cold.
	We had this, you know, it was really cold.
	No, no, no, no. It's got nothing to do with it.
	But now there's a little disaster going on.
	Yeah, it's exactly, oh, this is what's causing it.
	Okay. Sorry. So they go on with a before the five they go on this I put the word skip in there because I skipped over a whole long lecture about how the hot water boy pushes up into the hurricane and goes on and on and on about this and so do we end up with this after after listening to that for five minutes we go to this.
	Okay, so warm oceans translate to stronger storms.
	But there's another element here, which is that climate change adds to sea level rise, which can create a bigger storm surge, right?
	Explain that. Yeah, so climate change is driving rising sea levels, and some of the fastest rates of sea level rise in the world, actually, are along the Gulf Coast.
	So that's driven by melting ice on land, like the Greenland ice sheet, but also as water gets warmer in the Gulf.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, wait, let me understand.
	So the ice sheet is melting, and therefore the water in the Gulf gets warmer?
	In the Gulf. In the Gulf gets warmer from the melting ice sheets.
	No, it goes up.
	Yeah, of course it does.
	That's driven by melting ice on land, like the Greenland ice sheet.
	No, but I think she said it got warmer.
	Let me see. Driving rising sea levels, and some of the fastest rates of sea level rise in the world, actually, are along the Gulf Coast.
	Oh, I can't believe I'm not...
	How come I don't have beachfront property here in the heart of Texas?
	I should! So that's driven by melting ice on land, like the Greenland ice sheet, but also as water gets warmer, it expands.
	So then when a storm like Milton comes along, driving this huge wall of water in front of it, and water levels are already higher than they used to be, that's a recipe for really catastrophic storm surge.
	And right now we're seeing predictions of 15 feet of storm surge in some places.
	I don't think it reaches 15.
	Doesn't water expand when you freeze it?
	Yeah, yes.
	Doesn't it? Yes, yes.
	Why are you bringing logic to the show?
	Stop it. You know, so it turns out they've also...
	So not only have they added this new metric of barometric pressure...
	Millibars. Yes, in millibars, not inches, which is interesting.
	We do that in millibars. Things because it looks bigger in millibars, you know, instead of saying 29.9.
	So millibars.
	Because then it's like, oh, it's 900 millibars.
	There seems to also have been an interesting reshuffling of the category with wind speeds.
	And I was unaware of this, but we do have the best producers in the universe.
	So a category 1 storm is wind speeds of 74 to 95 miles an hour.
	That's a 22 mile per hour range.
	A category 2 storm, however, is 96 to 110 miles per hour.
	That's 15 miles. Mile per hour range.
	Why? I don't understand why.
	Then we have Category 3, which we call a major storm, is 111...
	Stop asking questions!
	Exactly. Which is a 111 to 129 mile per hour.
	That's a 19 mile per hour range.
	And then Category 4, now this is the interesting, a Category 4 is anywhere from 130 to 156 miles.
	So now all of a sudden that's a 27 mile per hour range.
	So it seems like they're driving everything into at least a Cat 4 and then a Cat 5 is anything over 157.
	So this reminds me a little bit of the changes they made to the Richter scale and became the momentum scale for earthquakes.
	Whatever it is now.
	Whatever it is. So, now we get into everybody spinning up and spinning out, including friends of mine, good friends of mine, like, oh, this was to disrupt the election, to which I say, okay, first of all, North Carolina, blue.
	So, that wasn't the intent.
	It's got a Democrat governor.
	Yes. It's a blue state.
	But then you do Florida, like, okay, so what are you really disrupting?
	We have an electoral college, you know, so it's not going to make any difference.
	You know, if you do it in Pennsylvania and Georgia...
	Yeah, that's where you'd want to do it.
	Yeah, that's...
	Or Michigan. Steer it that way.
	Blow up Michigan.
	So, I have to just spend a little bit on these theories of weather modification because there's, you know, you can look at it several different ways.
	France 24 dove right into it.
	More broadly, do we know, are there ways to try and mitigate the dangers of hurricanes?
	Well, actually, Scientists have long searched for a way to at least attenuate or even prevent the formation of hurricanes, or at least to try to change their track.
	It started after World War II with the Project Cyrus that was financed by GE, but also the U.S. Army.
	And what they did is that they projected dry ice straight into the hurricane, thinking that...
	By the way, it's very irritating, but in France, they don't say hurricane, they say hurricane for some reason.
	Hurricane. Hurricane. It was going to modify the cloud envelope and change the structure of the hurricane.
	And they did observe some changes in the appearance of the hurricane, but they couldn't establish a very strong causal effect.
	So then there was another project that was a little bit more known called the Storm Fury Project.
	It lasted for 20 years. It was funded by the U.S. government.
	And here they did what we call cloud seeding.
	So here they dumped what we call silver iodide.
	So these are salt crystals and once again thinking that it would modify the structure,
	increase the condensation and change the hurricane from within.
	And they used it on several hurricanes in the 60s, Esther, Bola, Debbie, Ginger.
	At first the results were encouraging but then they stopped once again because there
	wasn't a strong causal effect.
	They couldn't say that these silver crystals were really the reason why the hurricane had
	changed trajectory or intensity.
	And there's another idea as well, Julia.
	This was a really rather creepy one.
	And this is dropping an atomic bomb to blow out, in inverted commas, a newly formed hurricane.
	Tell us about this. Well, exactly.
	Thank God they didn't use it, of course.
	This would have produced radioactive fallout in a big way and, of course, environmental issues.
	But they did consider it.
	Okay, so there's been lots of experiments, so it's no wonder that people discuss these things, and one of those experiments actually veered the hurricane off in a wrong direction.
	People got very angry at the government.
	Now, it doesn't help that Lyndon Johnson, President Lyndon Johnson, was quite jitty about the whole concept.
	It lays the predicate and the foundation for the development of a weather satellite that will permit man to determine the Ultimately, to control the weather, and he who controls the weather will control the world.
	Yeah, he who controls the weather will control the world.
	That's a great clip to bring back. It's classic.
	It's a classic. And, you know, you listen to the commentators.
	Nobody... What you're doing right now should have been done by Fox, for example, who are more interested in using the word triage instead of prioritizing.
	It's a different story. And it also doesn't help that CIA Director John O. Brennan also kind of alluded to this.
	As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI. He's going to talk about stratospheric aerosol injection.
	As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would also raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community.
	On the technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects, such as ocean acidification, because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere.
	On the geopolitical side, the technology's potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions of the world at the expense of other regions could trigger sharp opposition by some nations.
	Others might seize on SAI's benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions.
	And as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI and other geoengineering initiatives.
	And I could go on and on and on and on about the things that fascinate me.
	Yeah, of course it fascinates him.
	Because weather modification, you can rule the world.
	So this is where these conspiracies come from.
	And we have a...
	And just to defend Marjorie Taylor Greene, she didn't say anything wrong.
	She didn't. It was a very short tweet, and I think she was spot on.
	It's inflammatory. You know, it's what Marjorie Taylor Greene did.
	It's nutty. But that's what she does.
	She's notorious. That's what she does.
	It's her job. We have a knight who is very high up in...
	And he wants to remain anonymous, I have to say it carefully, in one of the larger American weather modification associations.
	And so he has a lot of background.
	I checked him out, so I can't talk about him per se.
	But he says, look, look, he said, there is no evidence that there was any weather modification done in these two instances.
	I'm just going to take him at his word.
	I'm sure he's correct.
	Yes, and he checks out.
	And I can't believe that they don't have someone like him on Fox and Friends.
	No, instead, we have to deal with insane things.
	And whenever I get an eight-second clip, I'm like, wait a minute.
	And even just listening to this clip, because it was only audio, I knew right away that this was not the director of FEMA. We plan to execute.
	Between 70 and 80,000...
	We plan to evacuate between 70 and 80,000 people.
	So, first of all, I think the director of FEMA or the administrator is a woman.
	Yeah, I think so. This is a black guy.
	It's Lloyd Austin from 2021, and I remember this because...
	So somebody sent you this clip?
	Oh, it's all over.
	Oh, it's everywhere. You got the TikTok girls going like, whoa, is this the truth wanting to come out?
	Oh, yeah. Sanders exceeded all expectations.
	Yeah, that's Lloyd Austin. It's We plan to execute between 70 and 80,000.
	We plan to evacuate between 70 and 80,000 people.
	So it's like, oh, okay, please.
	This is a very old clip and it goes around and people are like, they're going to execute people!
	The other one that really got me.
	I like it. The one that really got me.
	I think it's fabulous. Yeah.
	Now, people were getting mad at me about this, because I have experience...
	And if you're going to get mad, they should get mad at you.
	Yes. Oh, they never get mad at you.
	They should, and I'm old. You need to exalt the older men.
	Yes. So this is a clip of North Carolina, and it only had titles over it, and it had this really ominous music.
	I'll play it. With a Blackhawk helicopter, and it would say, Oh, look at them!
	It's unmarked! They're coming over here!
	They're rotor-washing us!
	And so I'd get emails from people, I learned a new term, rotor-washing!
	Look at what they're doing to us!
	They're rotor-washing us!
	And I'm like, okay, it looks to me, just from a pilot perspective, and I have a lot of hours, I have more hours on helicopter than fixed-wing, Including a Chinook.
	One hour, but okay.
	It's a Chinook. And the Blackhawk is very powerful.
	Around 53 feet is when you're going to start blowing stuff away on the ground.
	It looks to me like they're coming in to figure out where they can land and then they decide to take off.
	And yeah, your tents are going to fly away and your boxes are going to move around on the ground.
	But if they were really rotor-washing you, which I have done.
	I have rotor-washed a sailboat in Holland.
	It was fun. The guys loved it.
	They're on the lake.
	You did it on purpose?
	Yeah, but they wanted it because we were giving them speed and they thought it was hilarious.
	So we were blowing their sail.
	And so I know you have to come down a lot, especially with that.
	53 feet is about where it's at.
	And so now we get the story was North Carolina National Guard.
	They actually thought they could land.
	And well, here's the story.
	The North Carolina National Guard is investigating an accident, or an incident, I should say, of one of its helicopters at a Helene Donation Center.
	A viewer shared this video of the chopper coming too close to a distribution site in Burnsville.
	The National Guard says this happened as the pilot tried to land and deliver generators.
	The National Guard says on approach, the crew noticed that there were too many people, tents, and supplies close to the landing supply, so the helicopter took back off.
	They also admit they did not get clearance to land from local law enforcement.
	Safety is our number one paramount with our forces that we have on the ground.
	And so we are again continuing to investigate that.
	We do have some communication with the landing sites and the people that we are going to take commodities to.
	It's matured over time.
	Initially we had no communication so we were just making a call and landing.
	But now the landing sites have been more mature and we do have communication with emergency personnel that are on the ground.
	Major General Todd Hunt said he is very sorry for the incident.
	He says the crew is grounded for now and they're working with the organization to identify how much damage the crew caused.
	So, of course, this was not...
	I mean, the implication...
	This is because there's so...
	Little trust or maybe just massive distrust in our government at the moment that people jump to this conclusion that they're trying to purposely hurt them.
	I just don't think that was the case.
	But the programming was so strong when I even said, you know, I don't think this is their purposely rotor washing because if you really purposely want to rotor wash, people would be flying around on the ground.
	You know, they're trying to do reconnaissance.
	Can we land here? They fly away.
	But people are so spun up because for sure, the reliance on the government has been so built up.
	We talked about in the last show, so built up by people.
	Oh, the government's going to come and save me.
	And what's happening in Western North Carolina, it's horrible.
	I mean, we're not getting...
	And of course, all of that news is going to be pushed to the back burner.
	We're only going to be talking about Florida right now.
	It's all minimal because, oh, God forbid we make anybody look good.
	Because you can't...
	The government is not set up to be the knights in shining armor.
	They're not set up to save you.
	They're not. They talk a big game.
	Just like Kamala's going to save you with, I don't know, building houses.
	And they just talk.
	The sooner we realize that that's not the way it is, the better it is.
	And we're just in this horrible, I don't know, 80 or 100-year cycle.
	We had Sir Mark and Dame Astrid here Sunday night and Monday.
	Fantastic. We had a great time.
	And so Mark was telling us how he went to the Fukushima, you know, just check stuff out, the little tour up there, and they went to this hilltop, and there were three monuments.
	And he says, oh, is this the monument for Fukushima?
	And the Japanese guide there said, oh yeah, we do it for every time it happens.
	This happens every 100 years.
	So this is from 100 years ago, this is from 200 years ago.
	See, we don't hear all that.
	But Mother Earth wins every single time.
	So, you know, to throw in climate change and all of this nonsense, it's dishonest.
	And it's just programming weak-minded brothers and sisters into believing it And going along with the program and eating bugs, and it makes everybody else crazy and mad because they're doing it to screw the elections.
	No, it's just life.
	Trump's fault. Well, of course, it's all Trump's fault.
	The same, by the way, goes for...
	And Trump is out there.
	He's talking this thing up, too, which is bullcrap.
	This Kamala Harris 60 Minutes interview with...
	They edited it. They took out all the stupid stuff.
	Okay. Yeah, 60 Minutes chopped down their interview to get it into, I don't know, 60 Minutes.
	And yes, they chopped out all the fluff and the nonsense that she talks.
	But they had put that whole...
	Let's stop right there.
	That's what you do.
	Yes, that's what you do with an interview.
	The whole thing is chopped.
	In fact, a guy I knew, David Renson, who used to write for Playboy, we were talking one day about how I met him because they were going to do a piece that involved me.
	And... He's talked about the best interviews, the Playboy interviews, are extremely edited because otherwise you're going to bore people stiff.
	If you look at something like Interview Magazine, when that was around, they would do...
	Their interviews were straight up, and it was a lot of, well, the way I, um, um, um, see, um...
	It's like taking and doing a transcription of Elon Musk.
	Who's going to read this crap?
	So... Of course, everyone had the side-by-side.
	It's about 15 seconds longer, the unedited bit, and we can certainly play it.
	But the point is, it was CBS themselves who put the full question and answer out.
	It was on Face the Nation as a promo reel for the interview.
	Because when I saw this, like, well, where did this come from, this tape?
	Was it leaked? Is there someone within CBS? Because that's the implication.
	Oh, we got the raw, unedited footage.
	I know, it's crazy.
	No, they just put it out there.
	It was part of a promo for the whole 60 Minutes interview.
	And by the way, the whole thing is chopped up.
	You think that was... You have to do that.
	That's what you do.
	This is an entertainment at some level.
	You don't bore people stiff with the real deal because no one's going to follow it.
	They're going to go nuts. Yes, she's a hopeless case.
	She's dumb. Yeah, she is.
	And if anything now...
	She is a dumb person.
	You can see it in her eyes.
	I actually have a backgrounder here because she went on this.
	Yeah, here it is. It's France 24 again, but they had a good little summary of her media blitz.
	We asked ahead of time.
	With just four weeks to go, it's her last chance for voters to get to know her better.
	Cracking open a can of lager on Stephen Colbert's talk show, Vice President Harris continued her week-long high-profile media blitz.
	On Howard Stern's radio show, whose listenership skews white and male, she took a mix of more hardline questions on policy, but also showed her personality.
	Listen, I've been the first woman in almost every position I've had.
	So, I believe that men and women support women in leadership.
	And that's been my life experience, and that's why I'm running for president.
	In a bid to reach every demographic, the string of appearances has included non-traditional outlets, like the Call Her Daddy podcast, a Gen Z and millennial fan favorite with Spotify's biggest female listenership.
	Unfortunately, Kamala Harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble.
	How did that make you feel?
	I don't think she understands that there are a whole lot of women out here who, one, are not aspiring to be humble.
	However, critics have argued that Harris is still introducing herself this close to the election and accuse her of being unable to align herself from Joe Biden's administration.
	Would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years?
	There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact.
	Harris eventually clarified that unlike Biden, she plans to put a Republican in her cabinet.
	With seven battleground states up for grabs and polls continuing to show a tight race, the interview burst is intended to hit a large portion of the media spectrum and dispel criticism about her infrequent engagement with the mainstream media.
	Alright, so I've looked at all of it.
	I looked at the 60 Minutes.
	I looked at the View. All of Call Her Daddy.
	Boy, that was...
	That bored me to tears.
	It was, I mean... No, it was terrible.
	Not one blowjob question.
	It was so boring. That's the thing that I mentioned in the newsletter, and I just want to reiterate it.
	Yes. Alexandra Cooper, Alex.
	Alex. Who split off from Sophia with an F. Sophia Franklin.
	Because they used to be partners and then they split off and Alexandra got a potload of money because she played her cards right.
	And I've listened to her podcast now and again trying to get some clips from it, never been able to.
	All she does is talk about blowjobs.
	She is preoccupied with blowjobs.
	Yes, yes. And she'll go on and on and on about it with people.
	I don't think a lot of people want to talk about it.
	But she talks about it and talks about it.
	And so she doesn't talk about it with Kamala.
	But as I mentioned in the newsletter, there's a very interesting irony here.
	Because I don't think Kamala's people knew anything about this podcast.
	They just knew it was big.
	It's second to Rogan at Spotify, supposedly.
	And so it's a monster podcast.
	It has a big audience.
	That's all they knew. This is like media buyers.
	They don't know what they're doing.
	And so they put her on there.
	And the irony of her being on basically a blowjob podcast did not elude a lot of people, including me.
	So... Here's my conclusion.
	Besides her word salad and saying nothing, which is, okay, if you gave me 10 women and put them in a lineup and said, okay, you're casting for president...
	She would be last.
	There is nothing about her at all that has anything presidential.
	She has dead eyes.
	When she talks, she frowns when she talks, which is very off-putting.
	She has a bit of that vocal fry.
	A wine, a wine, a Berkeley wine.
	Yeah, a Berkeley wine.
	It's called the Berkeley wine.
	We choose our presidents like we choose our breakfast cereal.
	And this is not what Americans go for.
	I don't understand why the Republicans and conservatives in our country are so spun up about it.
	She's not going to be elected.
	Now, can they cheat?
	I even doubt that.
	You can't cheat enough. Yeah, too big to rig.
	She is really unappealing.
	Just unappealing.
	She is. She's unappealing, which is the whole reason why she had 1% when she was running for president.
	She had to drop out.
	It was so embarrassing. Because no one likes her.
	She's unlikable.
	And I'm saying this from a television producer perspective.
	You can say it from any perspective you want.
	I think if you talk to a lot of women don't like her.
	I mean, the only people that like her have never seen her do anything.
	They're just voting Democrat.
	There's a huge number of people out there.
	Huge number.
	Yes, but those are the ones who aren't hurting in the pocketbook.
	Well, some of them might be, but they just vote Democrat.
	There are people that vote Democrat, there are people that vote Republican, and there's a big range of people that actually take a look at, and they decide late.
	I do want to play just two clips from the 60 Minutes interview, just to put some content to this segment, where we just slag women off based upon their parents.
	Okay. That's what you did.
	I didn't do it. I was talking about the blowjobs.
	You're guilty by association.
	Here she is, and there's a lot of, hey, hey, hey, if you don't mind me, excuse me, I'm talking.
	Let me finish.
	That did not work.
	No, it's not good at all.
	This is about the border.
	Was it a mistake?
	To loosen the immigration policies as much as you did.
	It's a long-standing...
	Edit, by the way. Edit.
	You can tell where all the edits are.
	This thing was completely chopped up.
	Not just this one bit.
	Immigration policies as much as you did.
	It's a long-standing problem.
	And solutions are at hand.
	And from day one, literally...
	What I was asking was, was it a mistake to kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place?
	I think... The policies that we have been proposing are about fixing a problem, not promoting a problem.
	But the numbers did quadruple.
	And the numbers today, because of what we have done, we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half.
	We have cut the flow of fentanyl by half.
	But we need Congress to be able to act to actually fix the problem.
	Okay, so that's a very bad answer.
	Very bad answer, and everybody knows it.
	And then the other one is about her flip-flopping on all of her policies.
	Let me tell you what your critics and the columnists say.
	The columnists. Oh, the columnists.
	Pay attention. Let me tell you what your critics and the columnists say.
	Hold on. Now I should mention it.
	What's kind of what?
	The columnists. The columnists.
	The columnists. Oh, I tell you.
	The columnists. Oh, good lordy.
	Let me tell you what your critics and the columnists say.
	Okay. Okay. They say that the reason so many voters don't know you is that you have changed your position on so many things.
	You were against fracking.
	Now you're for it. You supported looser immigration policies.
	Now you're tightening them up.
	You were for Medicare for all.
	Now you're not. So many that people don't truly know what you believe or what you stand for.
	And I know you've heard that.
	In the last four years, I have been Vice President of the United States, and I have been traveling our country, and I have been listening to folks, and seeking what is possible in terms of common ground.
	I believe in building consensus.
	We are a diverse people, geographically, regionally, in terms of where we are and our backgrounds.
	And what the American people do want is that we have leaders who can build consensus.
	Where we can figure out compromise and understand it's not a bad thing, as long as you don't compromise your values, to find common sense solutions.
	And that has been my approach.
	There was a whole article in Atlantic Magazine.
	Because they're so mad.
	They're so mad about Kamala and Trump going on podcasts.
	And like, well, it's not real.
	If you just want a softball personality, face it, mainstream media.
	Face it, M5M. Podcasts are taking over.
	Go ahead, sit behind the paywall.
	See how you do.
	I have a good, just an interrupting clip here about podcasts that was sent over by Steve.
	And where is this thing?
	It actually kind of fits right into what you're saying.
	I'm looking. I'm looking.
	I'm looking, too. Oh, NPR. Candidates appear on podcasts.
	Yes. Okay. Vice President and candidate Kamala Harris have been stepping up media appearances lately.
	She's been getting criticism that she's not spending enough time in the public eye.
	Harris has done traditional shows like 60 Minutes and also hitting the podcast circuit.
	Last week she turned up on the podcast All The Smoke, hosted by former NBA champ Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes.
	As someone who's been the first in a lot of spaces you've been in,
	a woman of color knocking on the door to possibly be the next president,
	how do you protect your mental health and your mental space?
	Well, number one rule...
	How do you protect your mental space?
	My mental space?
	Yes. How do you protect your mental space?
	How do you protect your mental health and your mental space?
	Well, number one rule, don't read the comments.
	They're nasty. Yeah, if you have a specific slice, Sarah, people that you want to reach, there is a podcast for that.
	That's for sure. There's a lot of them.
	But when you and I are doing interviews, I mean, we have journalistic principles that we follow.
	So do these podcasts follow any of that?
	Typically not. I mean, these are typically run by hosts who are influencers.
	Maybe they are former reality stars or former athletes.
	They are not people who typically have journalistic training, although you'll see they prepare for interviews.
	Sometimes they'll reference soundbites.
	They'll try to make sure that this interview feels very authoritative.
	But at the end of the day, the same type of journalistic standards and scrutiny that you and I would pose on an interview don't exist here.
	And so... Oh, it's pretty much the same thing in The Atlantic.
	It's the same thing. Oh, there's no journalistic integrity.
	They don't have producers and people looking for stuff and digging through, and there's no critical questions.
	What a crock. Totally.
	And I will say that...
	By the way, I... There's a lot of podcasts that have journalists involved with them.
	I would say this is one of them, but I don't like to brag about that.
	But the whole New York Times podcast is just journalists yakking about stuff.
	Yes. But of course, you know, the really successful ones where the money is which we're not making with our integrity and our J-school diplomas like Joe Rogan.
	And I have to say, I... Find it peculiar that neither candidate has been on Rogan.
	I know why Trump, at least I think I know why Trump hasn't been on, is because at least a while ago it was, you know, hey, you want to be on my show?
	You got to come to my studio.
	And Trump only does them at Mar-a-Lago.
	So I understand that.
	I understand a joke like, come to my studio.
	I think Kamala should go.
	In fact, it would be...
	She wouldn't go on that show in a million years.
	If she did, I think those bookers that booked her on the Call Her Daddy show are idiots.
	I think they're smart enough to not put her on Rogan.
	I'd be stunned if she ever showed up on Rogan.
	I can predict, though, in the future election, we won't make it to the next one because we only have four more years.
	Four more years!
	But the four more years could be perpetual.
	Oh, okay. Dream on.
	So in four more years...
	I can see where an actual debate would take place in a podcast.
	Just two candidates sitting down, arguing, yelling, getting into it.
	Getting into it. It's more likely that a lazy podcaster would let them go for it.
	Because you sit back.
	I mean, if you do enough radio or any of these...
	Free content. Yeah, free content.
	You back off and you just let them go for it.
	Yelling at each other because you know people are going to tune in.
	And you don't need a moderator.
	There's no moderator.
	No, just have them yell at each other.
	Yes, yes. I would pack them in.
	Yes. Just toss a question up.
	All right. Border crisis.
	Go. That's all you need to do.
	In fact, I'm happy to facilitate that.
	So, let me play two podcast clips from an NPR podcast.
	So, this is kind of meta, where the NPR Politics podcast is talking about Kamala on the Call Her Daddy podcast.
	It's meta! And today on the show, a look at Vice President Harris' media strategy.
	Harris is doing... Why do they not get the good mics in the good studio for NPR podcasts?
	What is this sound, NPR? I thought this was just the bad sound that I'm getting all the time.
	It came through crummy?
	This is them. This is just how it sounds.
	It's bad. And today on the show, a look at Vice President Harris' media strategy.
	Harris is doing a whirlwind of three interviews today, which was the impetus for our podcast.
	Since she has become the Democratic nominee, she's done a mix of mainstream broadcast television interviews with places like CNN and CBS's 60 Minutes.
	And then she's also done untraditional interviews with podcasts to engage with folks who might not be traditional news consumers.
	They are so irked.
	They are beside themselves.
	Because you know Kama's not going to go on the NPR Politics podcast, which no one listens to but other podcasters.
	Aline, I want to start the conversation with you.
	What is the thinking behind the mix, the combination of interviews Harris has been doing?
	This is a very interesting strategy.
	This new kind of realm of podcasts going on social media, you know, that's kind of a clear hand out to younger voters.
	No! It has nothing to do with younger voters.
	I'll bet you the average Rogan listener is older than you think.
	To kind of get them involved in the places that they consume information.
	And, you know, regardless of where she's going, these are places with audiences of millions of people.
	Hold on a second. I just thought about this.
	I think they're equating podcast listeners with TikTok listeners or viewers, because that is a younger demographic.
	I'm convinced of it.
	I'm not even sure of that.
	The people I see addicted to TikTok are my age.
	I'm not so sure about that.
	Well, okay, you got me there.
	It's possible I'm wrong.
	No, this is just...
	What you're hearing in their voices...
	This is bigotry, by the way. They're angry.
	They're angry because, oh, well, they have the big audiences because they're just influencers because they're just no good.
	I mean, they're fighting a system that you always lose because, yes, they have big audiences because they don't have a stick up their butt like you do with a crappy sound.
	You know, regardless of where she's going, these are places with audiences of millions
	of people.
	And she's going on these podcasts that, you know, are kind of more geared towards younger
	folks.
	She just went on on Sunday to Alex Cooper's show called Call Her Daddy, which is a show
	mostly, I mean, entertainment podcast.
	It's one of the top shows in the country, and it's about topics like sex and relationships.
	And Harris kind of had this long conversation about different issues affecting young women
	today and talked a lot about abortion.
	So let's talk a little bit more about a couple of these specific podcast interviews she's
	Let's talk specifically about the Call Her Daddy episode.
	This idea of let's talk about, let's talk about, I've noticed this on a lot of these, this comes from Amy Goodman.
	This, well, tell us about, let's talk about, let's talk about this.
	We've never done that on this show.
	What say you? What say you?
	She's done. Let's talk specifically about the Call Her Daddy episode.
	You know, I felt like it was, in a lot of ways, it was like an infomercial for Harris.
	It was just an opportunity for her to talk at length about abortion.
	That's what she wanted. It almost, to me, felt like the point of that interview was to do the interview, if that makes sense.
	Like, her being on the podcast, just to say the words, Kamala Harris is on Call Her Daddy, like, that in itself is something I've heard, you know, folks around my age be like, oh my god, this is kind of crazy, because of what I said earlier, this show is not known for talking about politics.
	Politics. I have another, you want to hear more of this, these two dingbats?
	I want to mention that if you listen to the beginning of the Call for Daddy, Call Her Daddy, Call for Daddy!
	Is it Call Me or Call Her? That's a new podcast we're going to start it up, Call for Daddy.
	Call for Daddy. It's a faith-based podcast, Call for Daddy.
	Alex starts it off with an unbelievable, like five minutes of apologia.
	I'm using that word instead of apology.
	But that she's doing this at all.
	She goes on and on and on about, we don't do politics.
	She sits there cross-legged, like crisscross applesauce on her oversized couch.
	Okay, all right, daddy-verse, whatever she calls it, daddy-verse.
	Daddy-verse. Daddy-verse.
	I'm convinced that she was forced into this by Spotify.
	Maybe. I think so, because she was so apologizing.
	Didn't want to do it. It doesn't fit into the for you.
	Blah, blah, blah. She went on and on and on saying she's sorry for doing this.
	As you know, so I guess they let her get away with that excuse.
	But the whole thing was off top.
	It was off. It was off.
	It was off. What do you call it?
	It's not off topic, but it's off.
	It sucks. How about that?
	It sucks. It sucks. It sucks.
	Not relevant. Not relevant.
	Not relevant. Alright, so, well, that's enough of that.
	But let's stay with the same podcast, because they spent a lot of time talking about the new deets, the new deets on the case filed against Trump for January 6th.
	Oh, no, there's new evidence.
	It's hard evidence. He's going down.
	Oh, we've got something.
	We've got him now. So we are in the middle of a presidential campaign, and we are still getting new details about Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the last presidential election, this time in the Can you just explain what happened this week?
	Maybe the most significant to me was on the day of the Capitol riot itself, on January 6, 2021.
	The prosecutors asserted that it was Donald Trump himself who was sitting in a dining room off the Oval Office watching Fox News and issuing some of the tweets himself that day.
	In particular, that tweet around 2.24 p.m., Where he said his vice president, Mike Pence, lacked the courage to do the right thing.
	Remember Trump and others had been leaning on Pence to kind of put a pause on the certification of the electoral votes and Pence refused.
	And, you know, there was violence at the Capitol that day.
	Within a minute of Trump's tweet, Pence had been evacuated by the Secret Service.
	And then an aide came rushing in to tell Trump that there was chaos and danger at the Capitol, including toward Mike Pence.
	And according to this new filing, Trump replied, So what?
	Oh no! Oh no!
	So this is new evidence.
	Throw the book at him!
	Oh, but wait, there's more. So, a lot of new detail here.
	Additional new detail.
	The former president allegedly said to his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared that the details about the election really didn't matter.
	And election fraud really didn't matter.
	You've just got to fight like hell.
	And so that is new evidence about what Trump said and did on key days, as well as his state of mind and about his criminal intent.
	These people, I mean, I'm throwing them out of podcast index.
	I'm censoring them. I'm throwing them out.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah, you could actually, technically, maybe.
	No, technically I could do it right now.
	I won't.
	But they deserve it.
	Wow. And I know you have two clips on this, which I think will probably expand on this general overview, because not only do we have this damning evidence of Trump saying, you've got to fight like hell, and who cares?
	I mean, oh my God.
	I mean, we need to throw him in jail.
	No, no. But that nut job is back.
	since his 2016 bid for president.
	The Republican leader has long embraced Putin, whose intelligence services were found to have meddled
	in US elections.
	Now, a new book by veteran American journalist, reports further explosive details on the two men's
	interactions.
	First of all, spook, and second of all, explosive details.
	The opus titled War cites an un...
	The opus?
	What is an opus?
	you An opus is like, you know, Ben-Hur.
	The opus, titled War, cites an unnamed Trump aide who says the pair had spoken as many as seven times since Trump left office.
	The aide also recalls one instance early this year where they were ordered out of Trump's office in Mar-a-Lago so he could take a call with the Russian president.
	However, the book also quotes a Trump campaign official who cast doubt on the supposed contact.
	Former presidents often speak with foreign leaders, but it's highly unusual to talk to a The book also alleges Trump sent Putin COVID-19 testing equipment for his personal use in 2020 when many nations were facing shortages.
	In a statement, the Trump campaign said these were made-up stories and called Woodward a demented and deranged man.
	The Kremlin, meanwhile, also denied the conversations between Trump and Putin.
	Woodward rose to fame after he and his colleague Carl Bernstein exposed the Watergate scandal, bringing down Richard Nixon.
	He's written more than 20 books on American politics and current affairs, including 14 bestsellers.
	What happened to America?
	Man, we used to love people who would do stuff like that.
	You just say, remember when Ronald Reagan, he was doing a speech and something like a gun sounded went off and he went, oh, you missed me.
	I mean, these funny things.
	And oh, now it's an outrage and so horrible.
	It's hilarious.
	We need more fun in our politics.
	We need more fun. Back to this topic you just broached.
	I do have a 3x3, which covers it.
	Okay. I'm sorry. Here we go.
	Now it's time for 3x3.
	Yes. Experiment by JCD. A successful experiment.
	Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. A lot of people get real happy when they hear that music.
	Oh, yes, it's a 3x3.
	It's happy music, yes.
	We have a 3x3 of this topic.
	This is interesting. Now, we heard...
	Yeah, I thought it was...
	This, again, Steve sent this in.
	So, I will say...
	The first clip on it plays ABC. Now, you heard the part where I guess Trump sent over some gear to Putin for the testing.
	Yeah, like one of those free testing kits.
	He got four. No, no.
	He said it's gear.
	You know what we're talking about. What do you think that was?
	Free testing kits?
	It would have to be a PCR test.
	No. Testing module.
	It has to be some sort of, you know, equipment, right?
	Well, you're going to spin it up?
	Okay. Yeah, I guess.
	I mean, what else would it be?
	In this clip, Kamala Harris is brought in to say, bitch and moan.
	And she makes it sound as if, because I think she thinks this, that what Trump did, and you listen between the lines, he didn't say, no, no, it wasn't some PCR gear.
	It was a bunch of kits.
	Yes. You know those free kits that you get?
	Four. Four per household.
	I have a hundred of them.
	Trump probably had amongst his 17 grandchildren, he probably had about a hundred, so he probably sent him to Vlad, DHL. But we're assuming it was a PCR gear.
	It wasn't a bunch of boxes of cheap tests that don't do anything.
	But let's listen to this.
	As the COVID pandemic was raging and the government could not produce enough tests for the American people, then President Donald Trump secretly sent rare COVID test machines to Russia, to Vladimir Putin, for the dictator's personal use.
	That's according to Bob Woodward in a soon-to-be-published book called War.
	Woodward writes that Putin told Trump to keep it a secret, saying, quote, Kamala Harris seized on Woodward's new reporting today, talking about it in an interview with Howard Stern.
	Everybody was scrambling to get these kits, the tests, the COVID test kits.
	Couldn't get them. Couldn't get them.
	Couldn't get them anywhere. Howard Stern had a thousand of them, hypochondriac.
	And this guy who is president of the United States is sending them to Russia to a murderous dictator for his personal use?
	This person who wants to be president again, who secretly is helping out an adversary when the American people are dying by the hundreds every day and in need of relief.
	Trump also had some choice words for Woodward, calling him a storyteller who, quote, lost his marbles.
	Woodward, though, is one of the most respected journalists of our times.
	And as you know, David, Trump has frequently praised Vladimir Putin and boasted about having a good relationship with the Russian dictator.
	You know, we don't talk about this enough, but I gotta blow taps for Howard Stern.
	What happened to Howard Stern, the king of all media, the man who would...
	He was fighting the man, fighting the FCC, fighting the government.
	What happened?
	What do they have on him?
	How did this happen?
	They showed him a photo.
	What's that in your mouth, Howard?
	Now, it's sad.
	I used to love driving into New York from Jersey for years at the Lincoln Tunnel sitting there.
	At least Howard's on.
	When it was best of Stern, we were still happy.
	And now it's just, what has gone wrong?
	Well, you're not the only one that's mystified by this.
	No. It's very sad.
	All right, let's go with the second of the three, three-by-threes, and we go with, let's go to CBS. During the early days of the pandemic in 2020, then-President Donald Trump sent Russian President Vladimir Putin COVID-19 test machines, according to the new book War by Bob Woodward.
	Vice President Kamala Harris responded today during an interview with Howard Stern.
	Everybody was scrambling to get these kits, the tests, the COVID test kits.
	Couldn't get them. Couldn't get them.
	Couldn't get them anywhere. And this guy who is president of the United States is sending them to Russia to a murderous dictator for his personal use?
	Even after he left office, Trump stayed in touch with the Russian leader.
	According to Woodward, he cites an unidentified Trump aide who said the former president had as many as seven private calls with Putin.
	Even one early this year when Trump was urging Republicans to block additional aid to Ukraine in its fight against Russia.
	The newly revealed contacts raise additional questions about Trump's relationship with Putin.
	In the recent presidential debate, Trump twice refused to say who he wanted to prevail in the war with Ukraine.
	Do you want Ukraine to win this war?
	I want the war to stop.
	The vice president told 60 Minutes Trump would have allowed Putin to conquer Ukraine.
	Donald Trump, if he were president...
	Putin would be sitting in Kiev right now.
	He talks about, oh, he can end it on day one.
	You know what that is? It's about surrender.
	Woodward, who rose to fame investigating Watergate, writes in the book Trump was far worse than Richard Nixon.
	A Trump spokesman responded saying Woodward's reporting is not true and that Trump gave Woodward absolutely no access.
	Yeah, hit job. Now, a couple of things about this and the other one is that neither report mentions the fact that they talk about machines, COVID. Well, they said it here.
	They said it here in this report.
	No, they said it was machines, but they never make the point that she's talking about test kits.
	Kits, yeah. It's clear that these machines are not test kits, yet they play her talking about test kits with no clarification whatsoever.
	I have some clips later in the show if we get to them about some of the science reporting on NPR doing the same kind of thing, leaving out details that are necessary for understanding.
	Leaving out details that are necessary for understanding is what these networks are doing, and they're doing a disservice to the American public with this sort of reporting.
	It's just beyond me.
	What? What?
	I know gambling's going on.
	So I'm looking for an excerpt.
	In War, this is from BBC. In War, Woodward writes that while the former president was in office, Trump secretly sent Putin a bunch of Abbott point-of-care COVID test machines for his personal use.
	So that is what was written in the book.
	So Harris is completely nuts when she's talking about the test kits.
	And have you noticed that Howard's voice is lighter?
	Like he talks a little more in the front of his mouth.
	He doesn't have that throaty...
	I didn't notice this, but you would.
	Yeah. All right, let's play the last of the three, which will be NBC. NBC. Tonight, in her ongoing media blitz, Vice President Harris telling ABC she wouldn't change anything President Biden did.
	Would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years?
	There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've been...
	I think she lost the election on this.
	I think this was the loser.
	When you say this, nothing comes to mind.
	Yeah, and there's plenty that she...
	Nothing comes to mind.
	It was a softball that Sonny Hossens had to literally read from a sheet.
	Yes. I think this is the election-losing answer right here.
	There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact.
	Later saying she would name a Republican to her cabinet.
	Former President Trump slamming the response, calling it, quote, her dumbest answer so far.
	And Biden, the worst president in history.
	Meanwhile, Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward writes in a new book that former President Trump secretly sent Russian President Putin COVID tests for his personal use in 2020.
	Please don't tell anybody you sent these to me, Woodward says Putin told Trump.
	I don't care, Trump replied.
	Fine. Woodward citing an unnamed aide who claims Trump may have spoken to Putin as many as seven times since leaving the White House.
	NBC News has not confirmed Woodward's reporting.
	The Trump campaign responding in part, quote, none of these made-up stories by Bob Woodward are true.
	Harris slamming Trump today.
	Everybody was scrambling to get these kits, the tests.
	This guy who was president of the United States is sending them to Russia to a murderous dictator for his personal use?
	Oh, brother!
	NBC did the worst job of it because they didn't even indicate that it was a machine.
	No. Which you easily noted.
	It took you all of two seconds to read from the...
	From BBC....document.
	From the book. Oh, gee, there's an excerpt.
	It's like these guys even made it sound as though it was test kits.
	NBC did. So that would normalize what...
	It would make it more sense...
	It would normalize what Harris said.
	Good point. By soft-pedaling what it really was.
	Good point. This is the kind of...
	NBC has gone off the deep end.
	I blame Comcast.
	I blame this Brian L. Roberts guy, the guy who's the CEO. Somebody should call him out.
	Okay. Well, might as well be you because no one else is listening.
	Call him out.
	This is another problem we can't do more than four more years.
	It's not going to be any media left to deconstruct.
	We'll just be talking about podcasts.
	That's the way it's headed.
	Yeah. Alright, before we take a break, there was one interesting piece of news about Tina Peters.
	I think Tina Peters Day is her name.
	She was overseeing the election in Mesa, Arizona.
	And she took issue with the voting machines.
	Now... When you hear this story, what she really got convicted for is for allowing an unauthorized person to take a look at the machines.
	And there's a whole bunch of other stuff.
	There were screenshots where everybody could see.
	The password was 1Password123 and stuff like that, which is important information for people.
	But they threw the bomb.
	Look at her. And bringing in a parade of fellow election conspiracy theorists to defend her.
	Our Mark Salinger was in court in Grand Junction where Peters laughed at prosecutors, lectured the judge, then was led away in handcuffs.
	Tina Peters is a hero to the people who believe her lies.
	But inside this courthouse, those same lies made her a felon.
	You are a charlatan.
	And you cannot help but lie as easy it is for you to breathe.
	A reckoning happened today in Judge Matthew Barrett's courtroom.
	For nearly 30 minutes, speaking directly to Peters, he made it clear that words have consequences and lies lead to prison sentences.
	Prison is for those folks where we send people who are a danger to all of us, whether it be by the pen or the sword or the word of the mouth.
	Prison is where folks go, where punishment is what we're focused on.
	Because the crime committed is so significant that anything less would unduly mitigate the seriousness of the same.
	Peters granted conspiracy theorists illegal access to voting systems in her county as she searched for proof of voter fraud.
	Even to this day, after finding no proof of fraud, she maintains the election was stolen from Donald Trump and told the court she did nothing wrong.
	So, okay, so you threw the book at her because she, after the election, by the way, after all the election was said and done, she lets in computer experts, now known as conspiracy theorists, to take a look at these machines.
	And then in the courtroom, the judge is making it sound like, oh, you're a danger if you say things that aren't true.
	He was really making a big deal out of, oh, you lie, you lie, so we're throwing you in jail for nine years.
	This is something that actually kind of worries me.
	Yes, this is worrisome, yes.
	It's very worrisome.
	She was sincere. Yeah.
	Yeah, it wasn't that she was, and did she lie about what?
	Well, because there was supposedly no proof, whatever.
	Therefore, she lied. Therefore, throw her in jail.
	But the real charge is that she allowed unauthorized access to these voting machines.
	Yeah, after the fact. Yeah, I know.
	I know. Something's up with Arizona.
	Yes, stay away.
	This wasn't really about her.
	This was about anyone else who thinks they're going to...
	Poke around. Yeah, don't do anything with those.
	Nah, you're going to poke around our area.
	Forget it. Arizona's notorious for this sort of thing.
	Yeah. On both sides of the political spectrum.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the COVID testing machine sent to Putin.
	Hey, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr.
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	We titled that Dork MAGA. I was...
	On one hand, shocked.
	On the other hand, kind of mortified that I heard Kara Swisher calling Elon Musk dork MAGA. Did she hear that from us or did we somehow just catch on to some kind of...
	I think we're in the same way.
	We are on the same wavelength as Kara.
	That's not good.
	That's kind of disappointing.
	Well, when he said Dark Maga, the first thing I thought was Darth Magna, because I thought it was funnier.
	Maga. And then Dork, I think you said Dork.
	Yeah, Dork. I said Dork Maga.
	You said Dork Maga. I wrote it down immediately.
	And so you and Kara are on the same wavelength, I think.
	This is bad. This is bad. That's why you listen to her so much.
	I must repent. You actually have a crush on her.
	Oh, yeah, that's it.
	Uh-huh. Yeah, that would be it.
	Right on. This was art which had a DNA strand.
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	We were happy with it.
	We felt the choices weren't all that great.
	It was a fallback piece, let's be honest.
	Tan Staffel.
	Tan Staffel, who...
	I don't know if this is...
	Is this someone's nickname or...
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	That's not Tantanil, it's Tom Stoffel.
	No, it's somebody new. No, no, it's not new.
	I think they've been around. No, not long.
	First art was submitted for episode 1661.
	Oh, you're right. You're right.
	But he's done good work.
	He or she. He or she, yes.
	A lot of good evergreen pieces.
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	Artist for four months.
	She must be a Dutch master.
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	We've uncovered a new Dutch master.
	Now, we didn't make it easy for everybody, because we said, hey...
	You can't do any Star Trek stuff.
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	You kind of like the dog TV from Dame Kenny, Ben.
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	I noticed a little ham radio.
	By the way, I'd just like to mention so many people, I don't know about you, they're probably not emailing you because they can't spell your last name, but But they've been emailing me, hey, what radio should I get?
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	Just to reiterate, all the questions for the test are published with the answers.
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	CQ, CQ, CQ. CQ, wait, the Italian guys, the span of...
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	Yeah, sounds like Mexican radio. Yes.
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	$60 is high. Have you looked at the prices recently?
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	Shut up, Steve.
	Alright, you had something you wanted to play.
	Yeah, I want to do these clips.
	This is an example.
	These are a total of six clips.
	Oh, wow. And they're different, though.
	They're not just like one topic.
	This is about the kind of dingbats that you have doing reporting nowadays.
	And this is specific to NPR. Oh, well, like we haven't been paying attention to them today.
	We've been giving them a lot of airtime.
	Yes, it's like NPR... Kind of a focus today.
	Let's focus on crappy reporting.
	Let's start with this one.
	This is the dingbat report NPR. This is about the Honda.
	Honda's had a big recall and we get to listen to, I don't know, this girl sounds like she's in the 11th grade, maybe, telling us all about the problem with the steering mechanism on a Honda car.
	Honda is recalling more than 1.7 million vehicles because of a defect in the steering mechanism.
	Federal regulators say the issue could increase the risk for crash.
	In Paris, Camilla Domenoski has details.
	The recall includes the Acura Integra, Honda CR-V, and the Civic family, all from model year 2022 or newer.
	Honda thinks about 1% of recalled cars actually have the faulty part.
	It's a badly manufactured worm wheel, the part where the rotation from turning the steering wheel turns into turning a gear to turn the wheels.
	Turns out these defective worm wheels can swell.
	There's also a spring that's wound too tight.
	Add it up and you might get an abnormal noise and a sticky feeling when you turn the steering wheel.
	Wow! How condescending is that?
	So why do we even have a reporter reporting on something that you can just read?
	The newsreader could have read that.
	But they do this a lot.
	I was looking at, in fact, I went and looked it up on the NPR personnel.
	They have hundreds and hundreds of people working there that just, for this purpose alone.
	That brings me to the second group, Eclipse.
	This is the Sandia. It's about Sandia Labs.
	Which she pronounces Sandia.
	I don't know why. What is Sandia Labs?
	Sandia Labs is down in the Albuquerque area.
	Maybe Sandia is the way it's pronounced now.
	But this is one of those examples, we've talked about it before in the show, where you have a situation where you use the term spokesperson instead of representative because you want to make it clear.
	That you're using non-language a certain way.
	I believe NPR uses, brings on presenters that are DEI hires.
	For their score, their ESG score.
	For their score. And for bragging rights, and they do it by...
	You could bring in somebody who can do presentation well, and they'd be a DEI hire, but if you're listening on the radio, you wouldn't notice it.
	So that's no good.
	So let's bring on a woman that's got so much...
	She's just a lousy presenter, can't...
	She screeches when she talks.
	I don't know if she's black or Mexican.
	I can't tell.
	But she's got a ghetto sound to her that tells the listener, hey, I'm a DEI hire.
	Get over it. And here we go.
	Do you worry that an asteroid will slam into Earth and end all life on this planet?
	Perhaps scenes from movies like Armageddon keep you up at night.
	We may have something to make your sleep a little better.
	Scientists may have discovered a way to knock an incoming asteroid off course.
	And for anyone who ever wondered, why don't we just throw a bunch of nuclear missiles at it?
	Well, you're kind of right.
	So it's a little bit different concept, but we think it may even be more effective.
	Nathan Moore led a team of physicists at the Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
	Alright, here's how the meeting went.
	Hey guys, I think we've had some issues with the younger audience listening to NPR. We need to hip it up a little bit.
	I want some sound effects.
	I want young voices, multicultural voices, and let's just be a little bit looser with the scripts.
	Yeah, that'll do it.
	That would be the meeting. I'm sorry, that would be the meeting.
	Now, the problem is the reporting here is, which brings me to the last couple of clips coming up.
	Didn't we already do this, by the way?
	Didn't we already throw, like, crash something into an asteroid?
	Well, yeah, but that was to land it, to just steal something from it.
	This is different. And the thing is, is that They're going to tell us something that makes no sense and it's never explained.
	And this is what the galling part is besides her voice.
	Here we go. The Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico, they have discovered you just need to set off a nuclear explosion near an asteroid and the burst of x-rays will send it safely off target.
	The idea has been around for decades, but the only way to test it is with a nuclear weapon.
	And those are difficult to come by.
	So we invented a laboratory experiment where we could test this idea to generate an incredibly strong burst of x-rays in the laboratory.
	His team used magnetic fields to produce these x-rays and recorded their effects on two mock asteroids roughly the size of Tic Tacs.
	Not only does it work, but it works better than we thought.
	And on any size asteroid.
	But Nathan Moore cautions that all asteroids are not alike.
	Asteroids come in many different flavors.
	They're made of many different types of rocks.
	We've only done a test on one type of mineral.
	So it will be important to test this idea on different minerals in our laboratory experiments to develop a full understanding of how we would deal with every type of asteroid.
	But it's good to know we humans have options that those dinosaurs didn't when it comes to asteroids.
	Oh, brother. Or when they come to us.
	It's certainly reassuring to know that if we are surprised by either a large asteroid or one that shows up with very little warning, if it needs a hard shove, we have a way to deal with it.
	Bruce Willis, thank you for your service.
	Oh, my goodness.
	I'm surprised he didn't say axeroid.
	The worst part about this report is not even her, it's how do x-rays, which have no matter, Push anything.
	I'm sure maybe they do, but I don't know how it does.
	I mean, when I have an x-ray, I'm not thrown back against the table.
	It's like...
	So there's no explanation for how this x-ray trick works.
	Also, it's rude. Bruce Willis is a vegetable.
	It's rude. And then the Bruce Willis reference is like...
	With Bon Jovi music.
	That's rude. I agree.
	This is peak NPR right here.
	It's over. That's it.
	Enjoy it. It exemplifies the crap that they produce.
	And it's also not explanatory.
	It used to be educational.
	You should learn something. You learn nothing.
	So here we go to this second group.
	Now this is all the same. This is about more science-led pipes.
	And I want to...
	This is about...
	This has got so much lack of information.
	There's no real reporting.
	It's just, let's get rid of lead pipes.
	They never explain.
	As we go along, I'll try to throw in what might be going on because I have...
	I would like an expert on...
	Wait, wait. Didn't you used to be a lead pipe inspector?
	No. Oh, okay.
	And so I would say that there is a lead pipe.
	It's a lead pipe cinch. There's just information in here that is not explained.
	Let's go. There are some 9 million homes across the U.S. getting water through lead pipes.
	And now the Environmental Protection Agency says those pipes need to come out.
	The science has been clear for decades.
	There is no safe level of lead in our drinking water.
	That's EPA Administrator Michael Regan.
	He says lead is harmful, especially to children.
	NPR's Ping Huang has been following the story and she joins us now.
	Hi, Ping. Hi, Ping.
	Hi, Ping. Okay, so I gotta admit, I was kind of surprised this wasn't already a rule.
	What is the EPA saying about it?
	Yeah, you would think, right?
	I mean, it's definitely something that water advocates have been fighting for for many, many years now.
	And the main thing about this rule is that for the first time on the federal level, it requires most water systems to replace all their lead pipes within 10 years.
	Now, Layla, this is a problem with a long history, but it got a lot of attention 10 years ago with the Flint water crisis in Michigan.
	And there, there was a change in the water chemistry that caused old pipes to leach high amounts of lead into the drinking water.
	And since then, some cities and states have actually already been sopping out those lead pipes for copper.
	Okay. What does she say at the end?
	I don't know what she said, and they're just filling airtime.
	Play the little end part again and tell me what she said word by word.
	Crisis in Michigan. There, there was a change in the water chemistry.
	There, there was a change in the water chemistry.
	Wait, wait, wait, I'm listening.
	To leach high amounts of lead into the drinking water.
	To leach high amounts of lead into the drinking water.
	And since then, some cities and states have actually already been sopping out those lead pipes for copper.
	Okay, that last bit, I could not decode.
	Let me listen again. Some cities and states have actually already been sopping out those lead pipes for copper.
	Well, some states have been allowed to select a Lappenhopper.
	I listened to this ten times and I couldn't figure out what she said.
	The leech and lop and slop and hopper.
	The leech and slop and hopper.
	Swapping out the lead for copper.
	How about that? And since then, some cities and states have actually already been swapping out those lead pipes for copper.
	They've been slopping out the head pipes for copper.
	Yeah. She said Hopper.
	How come we don't get gigs like this?
	This is a great gig. I wanted Sloppenhopper.
	Okay, so right away we're introduced to the...
	It turns out that besides that last bit, which is I had to stop it there because it's like, what did she...
	I still don't know what she said.
	Sloppenhopper. Sloppenhopper.
	So we got... Everybody's got lead pipes.
	Show title, Sloppenhopper.
	Sloppenhopper. So...
	Everyone's got... Lead pipes are everywhere, but in Flint, Michigan, it caused a problem and everyone got poisoned and they made a big fuss about it because of the water chemistry.
	What water chemistry?
	What water chemistry?
	What changed in Flint that all of a sudden everyone got lead poisoning when there's lead pipes?
	It turns out the whole country is filled with them.
	Sloppenhopper. So...
	What, what do we, this didn't tell me anything.
	All I know is that there's lead pipes everywhere and they've been here forever.
	And I also know that elemental lead, elemental lead is not toxic.
	You can lick lead, it's not going to do anything.
	It's the lead salts.
	Ah, you're getting all, you're getting all chemistry on me now.
	But they never talk about any of that.
	Let's go with clip two where they still tell us nothing.
	Right. It was clear even back then that it wasn't just a problem in Flint.
	Are there parts of the country that are more likely to rely on lead pipes?
	Yeah, places with homes that were built before 1986.
	That's the year that Congress banned lead pipes, but the ones that were already in the ground were allowed to stay there until now.
	So there are lead pipes in every state, but some have more than others.
	Those include Illinois, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New York, and New Jersey.
	All of those states have over half a million lead pipes.
	Wow. So, that's a lot of pipes.
	They're going to have to replace all those in 10 years?
	Wow. Yeah, it is a lot of pipes.
	And for the most part, they will have to, but there are some interesting exceptions.
	So, Chicago, for instance, has the most lead pipes out of any city, around 400,000 in Chicago alone.
	Oh, that explains it. That's because they actually required lead pipes there until they were banned.
	So... We're good to go.
	Okay, so a couple things I learned here.
	One, no wonder Chicago is retarded.
	It's because they're all drinking lead.
	And the other thing I got from NetNed, he says, Detroit water was used until Detroit kicked them off for not paying their bill and Flint switched to a mothballed water treatment plant from the Flint River that was really polluted.
	Just as an aside.
	Man, we do better than NPR. Well, another thing...
	The question that comes to mind when I heard that clip was, why did Chicago demand the lead pipes in the first place?
	So that the Democrats could keep winning elections.
	Well, that's an interesting theory.
	But it's like, why don't they tell us anything?
	This is a fact-free science report.
	They're telling us nothing.
	No. And, for example, what is going on that causes the lead?
	And even with the Flint, Michigan thing, I still don't know what the chemistry is.
	Now, I have some ideas.
	It's possible that, for example, you can get lead chloride If you chlorinate the water and run it through lead pipes, you might get some lead chloride through to the drinking water.
	I mean, that's one possibility.
	If you do any research at all, and they don't talk about this, if you have hard water, it coats the inside of the lead pipes, so the likelihood of toxicity is zero.
	Because there's a code, you know, anyone who has hard water knows what the problem is.
	It's just calcium and magnesium just coat everything.
	And so it makes the pipe smaller, but it protects it.
	And that's not discussed.
	And then the sleeving thing, which is what most people do in some of these areas, you run plastic sleeves through the copper pipe.
	And then you just run the water through that and that solves the problem immediately.
	And then there's also solder joints they don't talk about, which leaches through even when copper pipes.
	How come they didn't call you for this science report?
	They could have called anybody.
	Shut up already.
	Science. Yeah, science.
	Be quiet. So they continue with the non-factual reporting with the next clip.
	I talked with Brenda Santoyo and she's a water justice advocate in Chicago.
	Water justice advocate?
	Nah. Hey.
	Water justice.
	That should be our next promotion.
	We can give out water justice advocate diplomas.
	Okay. Yeah.
	I have a WJA in Detroit.
	It's definitely progress.
	I think that the city, the state, should take their own measures to try to speed up that process as much as they can.
	We also don't want our water systems to be set up for failure, for them to take shortcuts.
	Yeah, she says that the timeline seems reasonable, so long as families are able to protect themselves in the meantime.
	Yeah, I mean, even 10 more years seems like a long time to be drinking water that might have lead in it.
	So what can families do to protect themselves?
	Yeah, well, step one is figuring out whether they have a lead service line.
	The service line is the pipe that brings tap water into your house, and that would be the most likely culprit.
	If you can see that line, you can scratch it with a coin, try a magnet on it.
	There's some guidance online that can help you figure out if it's made of lead, copper, or coated steel.
	And in case you're wondering if it's easy to scratch and a magnet does not stick to it, those are some of the signs that it could be lead.
	They can also test their water for lead.
	There are some water districts out there that offer free water testing, so they can check for that.
	And here's the thing.
	Even if there is lead in the water, common home filters can take them out.
	So pitcher filters, faucet filters that are certified to remove lead, All these are really great solutions until the lead pipes themselves get eliminated.
	I am very close to banning NPR science reports on this show.
	I'm very, very, very close to it.
	This is bad. This is very bad.
	You have to remember that NPR, our national treasure, and all these public radio stations began as educational stations where you should learn something.
	You learn nothing from these people.
	There's no explanation for anything.
	It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Lead is bad.
	Yeah. We could have summed up that whole report with what you just said there.
	Blah, blah, blah, lead is bad.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	All right.
	Thank you for this science moment.
	You're welcome. I would like to move to Israel and Iran and what's happening.
	I have a couple of clips and I have some analysis that I would like to share with the group.
	We start first with Biden and Netanyahu finally speaking.
	President Biden today spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
	The White House called their conversation direct and productive.
	However, one of the big questions that remains is how will Israel respond to the Iranian
	missile attack and when?
	Israel's defense minister warns it will be precise and deadly.
	Havanes News reporter Josh Einig is live in Tel Aviv tonight with the story.
	Well it's precise and deadly, he said, but he added, and above all, surprising.
	They, meaning the Iranians, he added, will not understand what happened and how.
	But as you point out, the big question is when.
	And if the Israelis have decided that, they aren't saying tonight.
	One year after President Biden came to Israel and wrapped Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a bear hug, the two leaders have seen their relationship sour amid Netanyahu's prosecution of the war in Gaza and now Lebanon.
	But eight days after nearly 200 Iranian missiles filled the Israeli skies, Netanyahu and Biden today spoke on the phone to discuss Israel's plans to retaliate.
	The U.S. and the Israeli government have been discussing, have had discussion since last week, certainly since after the Iran attack.
	And so those discussions continued with the president and the prime minister.
	The White House has been trying to convince Netanyahu to choose conventional military targets and not Iran's oil industry or nuclear program.
	And it all comes at the holiest time of the year in this holy land.
	Will they try to do something before the end of the week?
	Because at the end of the week is the holiest day on the Jewish calendar, Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement.
	And at this time, there is so much uncertainty about what's to come.
	Now, I ask you, in the world of cyclical happenings, wouldn't a second Yom Kippur war be perfect?
	Oh! Just in the cyclical nature of things, and I'll come back to that.
	Yeah, that's an interesting idea.
	Yeah, I didn't even think of that.
	Just a thought. Now we go to NPR, and let's just get a little update, short one, from NPR. There's a lot of speculation over whether Israel will respond and what would be its targets.
	Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Erdegi in this video by AP News warned Israel not to test his country's resolve by launching an attack, saying Iran's response would be more powerful than last week's ballistic missile attack.
	That was in response to Israel's killing of top Hezbollah and Hamas leaders.
	Erji said Tehran stands fully behind its so-called axis of resistance, which includes Hezbollah and Hamas, and that he would soon be traveling to Saudi Arabia and other regional countries to discuss Israel's offensives in Gaza and Lebanon.
	There's intense debate here in Israel about the scale and target of a potential attack on Iran.
	Many experts believe it could be against its energy sector.
	Okay, so bear that in mind, and he's also going to be roaming around talking to people.
	Now we go to our retired generals.
	The first one, coming right out of retirement, known for his seven-counts.
	The famous Wes Clark 7 is, in fact, General Wesley Clark, and he's going to lay it all out for us.
	Do you believe Bibi Netanyahu will pull the trigger on Iran?
	I certainly do, and I believe he should.
	All the tragedy in Hamas, all that's going on with Hezbollah is traceable to the source, and that's Iran.
	And so this is the moment, and this is the situation in which Israel has to strike, and strike hard at Iran.
	Hey, it's number seven on the list.
	We got this the final one.
	We got to complete my Wes Clark seven.
	What do you make of the move by Emmanuel Macron to withhold weapons?
	Well, I think he's responding probably to domestic pressure in France, but it's certainly a misguided effort.
	If he wants to make a difference, he should endeavor to have religious leaders in France call together Kamene, bring Kamene to Jerusalem, have the Pope there, tell Kamene to renounce his claims, his efforts to destroy Israel and kill all its people.
	I love this.
	First of all, I like that he says Khamenei.
	Khamenei? Instead of Khamenei, he says Khamenei.
	So his idea is get the Pope.
	Bring the Pope over.
	Have Kamene and the Pope.
	We've got to do a photo op, Kamene.
	And we'll all shake hands like a big Camp David, though, in Israel.
	And Kamene and the Pope, it'll be good.
	If you go to the source, that's the way you deal with this.
	And Iran is the source.
	And Kamene is the key person.
	One more question for you.
	There have been some who say that if Israel were to strike, particularly Iran's oil, that this would spark World War III. Give us your perspective, considering all the years you have as an experienced commander.
	And ruining other countries.
	Than NATO. Well, I don't think a strike on their oil is going to spark World War III. I don't think World War III is in the offing right now.
	But I do say this. Iran is on the verge of having nuclear weapons.
	Maybe it has them now. When it has those, everything's different.
	This regime in Iran, it has to go.
	Now, it can change its tune if it says, okay, it'll live with its neighbors, fine.
	If it continues to insist that its whole effort is directed at the destruction of a neighboring state, In the 21st century, that's not permitted.
	No. So this is a moment for Israel to assert itself, to strike back, and to gain dominance in the region over Iran.
	So that sounds to me like regime change is what he's saying here.
	We just have to change those guys.
	Everything else is fine.
	It's not going to start World War III. No.
	Proving once again we have the best producers in the universe.
	One of our producers was at an investor dinner, and this must have been pretty high-end, because they brought in as a dinner speaker General Milley.
	And our producer gave me...
	Big Mike. Big Mike.
	General Mike. The other Big Mike.
	The other Big Mike. Gave me a little rundown of what he said.
	Took notes. And I think it's worth sharing.
	History is cyclical, he said.
	The Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 ended the Thirty Years' War and set the West up for a hundred years of peace between large powers.
	Broken by the Seven Years' War, the French and Indian War around 1750, then the constant state of war until Congress of Vienna established the Concert of Europe in 1815.
	Then there was peace amongst large powers for 100 years until World War I, from 1914 to 1945 with World War II. We are now 80 years into the current peace established by rules based under imposed laws He says that was Bretton Woods.
	Building the military with an eye on seizing Taiwan, Xi says he wants to take it by 2027, which would be the 100-year anniversary of the People's Liberation Army.
	He says, maybe, but China lacks experience and may underestimate the difficulty of it.
	Important that they continue to wonder if the U.S. would intervene.
	Ah, that's so we need to keep rattling the sabers.
	Gaza. Israel is responding to this horrific attack.
	Imagine what we do.
	They've been fairly successful with their strategic goal of destroying Hamas about two-thirds of the way there.
	They haven't gotten all of their leadership yet, but it's coming soon.
	Their challenge going forward is that they lack a political message.
	All war is politics administered through organized violence.
	That's a good statement.
	I like that one. All wars politics administered through organized violence.
	Need an alternative path to sell it to the Palestinians.
	Continued collateral damage.
	Civilian deaths makes it harder.
	It may require an Arab peace enforcement troops, maybe from Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia.
	Notice we have Netanyahu going on a little tour.
	Iran. Israel will hit Iran, but they'll probably wait until after the High Holy Days conclude next week.
	Probably a mix of military, economic, and symbolic targets.
	He said, maybe I'm wrong.
	They might go downtown.
	Either way, going downtown.
	Either way, it will be a strong message of don't do that again, but stopping short of delivering a devastating hit.
	Neither Israel nor Iran want a full direct war, but sometimes wars happen even when they aren't wanted.
	Would the U.S. get involved?
	Well, the country is a third bigger than Iraq with bigger military.
	We could deal with it, but at a significant cost, so unlikely.
	Nuclear! Now they are only days or weeks away from having enough uranium goo.
	However, Milley says, it will still take quite a period of time to package that into a missile.
	So there's something different from Wesley Clark.
	It's always a couple of weeks away.
	Well, that's just for the goo.
	It'll take much longer to package it into a missile.
	Yeah, they keep changing the target.
	I'm going with our thesis that this whole thing is a sham.
	And the fact that they've been talking about the nuke being a week away, a week away, a couple weeks away, within the next month.
	For a decade. For a decade.
	Is it possible that at some point years ago, they figured out they can't do this?
	Maybe none of it works.
	And maybe none of it works.
	And so they're going to say, well, let's change our policies, but we have to do this slowly.
	So let's get rid of these terrorist groups somehow, or we have to go in cahoots with other people to do this because we can't do it because it would make us look bad.
	We want to stay in power.
	And so the whole thing is a sham.
	Because I see no evidence of the contrary.
	And even if Israel sends a couple of missiles over, they're not going to hit anything.
	No. And the 200 missiles that were sent toward Israel, they didn't hit anything.
	They killed one of them, but the poor guy got hit by a fragment.
	I sent you that video after the show.
	Oh, that's the most disgusting thing.
	It's like a cartoon. I don't even wonder whether it's real.
	It's like a cartoon. That's what I wonder about.
	How does that even happen?
	How does that even happen? Anyway, he goes on about the future of warfare, which I think is the final interesting point.
	The nature of war doesn't change through history, but character of war does.
	Tactics and technology.
	Example, gun range increased from 70 yards to 400 yards between American Revolution and the Civil War.
	Generals were slow to adapt to it, and it was a bloodbath.
	In World War II, the Germans, British and French had the same new tank tech, radio comms and air support, but the Germans came up with the best system, the Panzer divisions, and steamrolled Europe in 18 months, including a larger French army.
	Looking ahead, one-third of the U.S. military will be robots.
	In 15 years, drone tanks, sailor-less ships, more UAVs, etc., China and Russia will try to do the same.
	Armed robots powered by, here it comes, AI and quantum computing will have...
	Oh, he said quantum computing?
	Yes, he did. He doesn't know what it is.
	...will have terrifying capabilities.
	That's where he goes off the rails.
	Yeah, so we don't need to invite General Milley for our after-dinner conversation.
	He does have a historic...
	He likes to do his historic stuff.
	Yeah, that's good. Doing historic stuff and analyzing it is hindsight.
	Doing foresight, he's got nothing.
	He can't look into the future at all.
	Robots and AI and quantum computing.
	Now, John, I tell you, if you really want to know what is happening in the future of warfare, we must look to the NATO. And the NATO, as you know, is now run by our former Prime Minister from the Netherlands, Mark Rutte! It's crucial for Ukraine to prevail.
	And we have to avoid that Putin would get his way with and in Ukraine.
	Because it's not only a problem for Ukraine, it is also a threat to all of us here in the UK. Everybody, everybody is threatened.
	About your accent.
	Yes. Because I listen to this.
	I think you've got...
	It's fabulous.
	I wish I could do it. But there's a couple of things you might want to do.
	Okay. One, they go a lot more than you do.
	Yes. Okay.
	And the other thing is, he changes his...
	Ruta, he changes his cadence.
	He talks at a certain speed.
	Then he speeds up. And then he slows down.
	That little element you have yet to capture.
	Oh, okay.
	I will work on that and do it very good in the future.
	...of us here in the UK, all over NATO, including Canada and the US. If Russia would be successful in Ukraine, it would be a security threat to all of us.
	So we have to massively... Massively learn how to speak Russian.
	Continue what we are doing first, and that is to put military aid into Ukraine.
	Yes, I'm eight. To make sure that we have enough training ready for the brave soldiers from Ukraine.
	We must have some training ready for the brave soldiers.
	Brave, very brave soldiers.
	The brave people who are working there to...
	The dead people, you mean.
	...counter the Russian onslaught.
	At the same time, we have to implement what we agreed in Washington during the summit.
	And particularly, this is the command we are now setting up in Germany.
	Oh, command. Oh, Germany is going to take all the hits.
	Great. Basically, coordinate all the activities all over...
	Oh yes, let Putin go get mad at the Germans.
	Allies and others to make sure that this aid gets into Ukraine and of course the so-called 40 billion euro plan.
	So-called, that is not so-called, it is real and we stole it from the Russians.
	That's where we decided collectively to make sure that that money is available.
	Money. Long term and this is of course at least for the first year but then also longer term we have to find that money.
	Years. Years. And we have to work on the bilateral security agreements as they are now being negotiated between Ukraine and various allies.
	He's negotiating between Ukraine and various allies.
	There's no letting up. How about the long-range weapons?
	But would you support Ukraine being given access to longer-range missiles to be able to fire those deeper into Russia?
	Militarily, we've heard from former senior commanders in Europe saying that Ukraine's allies need to be firmer, that dither and delay, as one of them put it, is not in Ukraine's interest.
	So would you personally support the use by Ukraine of longer-range missiles to fire deeper into Russia?
	Well, let me say this about that.
	Let me be very specific.
	First of all, Ukraine is allowed legally to strike targets in Russia when...
	Who makes up these laws?
	Illegally? Legally?
	Yes. Is there some edict?
	Was there some law passed?
	Is there some kind of war law?
	Geneva? First of all, Ukraine is allowed legally to strike targets.
	What is he talking about?
	I... Mark Rutte have said it is legal, you can go ahead.
	Legally, to strike targets in Russia when these targets pose a threat to Ukraine.
	So legally, this is possible.
	Legally? You're going to go to court over this?
	What are they talking about?
	Yes. Hello, Vladimir.
	Send the police in.
	And my second element of my answer will be that it is not one weapon system which will change the outcome of this conflict.
	No, we need many weapons!
	Spend the money! And then, of course, it is up to the individual allies to decide when they deliver weapon systems into Ukraine, how they can be used, and what kinds of commitments they give in terms of for Ukraine.
	Where is he going to get specific, like he promised?
	To use these systems.
	This is not up to the alliance as a whole.
	This is up to the individual ally members.
	Okay. One last clip from Mark Rutte.
	About Ukraine becoming a NATO member.
	We saw recently the Slovak Prime Minister saying that as long as he's in power, he will block Ukrainian membership.
	What are you going to do to try to build consensus on that?
	Well, clearly what we decided in Washington unanimously is that there is an irreversible path towards membership of NATO for Ukraine.
	Irreversible? Irreversible?
	Yeah, it's irreversible.
	Once they start, they cannot go back.
	We keep them going on the track.
	Towards membership of NATO for Ukraine.
	Then, of course, the question is how to take this to the next steps and the next stage of this.
	And it really has to be done step by step.
	And that's something, of course, amongst allies we will discuss over the coming month, including up to the summit in The Hague and beyond.
	Because this is a very sensitive issue.
	It is an important issue. But I said last week in Kiev, when I visited Volodymyr Zelensky and his team, Yes, with his team.
	We had a nice little drink with his team.
	I visited Volodymyr Zelensky.
	Is that one thing has to be absolutely clear.
	One thing. That Russia does not have a vote on this and that Russia does not have a veto on this.
	No, that would not be legal.
	Every country in the area of NATO can apply for membership and that is a sovereignization for that individual country.
	What a sales guy.
	And he comes across so confidently.
	Oh, I'm Margarita.
	I want to make it all happen.
	I'm going to get that, Vladimir.
	Me and my boys.
	Irreversible. It's legal.
	Come on, man. Pull the trigger.
	It's legal. Do it.
	Do it, Vladimir. If anyone's going to start World War III, it's that guy.
	Yes, that guy is no good.
	And we know he's no good.
	The Dutch know he's no good.
	We know it. Well, he's no good.
	He's no good. He's no good.
	So, this came in, which I have a longer clip here.
	Let me play this longer clip.
	This is about Google and the Department of Justice.
	This is interesting because I received a document today that I think pertains to it.
	So it is getting harder and harder for markets to remain complacent.
	Shares fell by more than 2% yesterday.
	And as we've been mentioning, Alphabet is the cheapest, magnificent seventh stock by forward PE multiple.
	So yes cases, they can take years, even if we have a decision, because Google will appeal.
	But injunctions, as we now see, can take down walled gardens and, in the meantime, create
	openings for competitors hit Google's bottom line.
	The judge in the Epic case ordered an injunction yesterday that breaks open Google's Android
	app store monopoly.
	Now, he ruled that for the next three years, Google must allow developers to bring their
	own app stores to the operating system.
	Now, the aim is to reduce fees for developers, which currently must fork over 15 to 30 percent
	of their user payments made within that Google ecosystem.
	But by allowing them to bypass it, bypass the walled garden, Google's app store transactions,
	they will take a hit.
	In 2019, the information estimates that it made up 20% of Alphabet's operating income.
	So that is a significant amount.
	Google says, for its own part, that the verdict missed the obvious, that Apple and Android, quote, clearly compete and says it will appeal.
	But in the meantime, this injunction could do some damage.
	Now, the epic case, that's resulting in an opening up.
	The potentially bigger threat is a We're good to go.
	So this kind of just, I mean, yeah, the epic case has been going on for a while, and the judge may have some power to do some things, but Google's going to appeal everything, and they'll just keep this going forever.
	But it was in light, I played this clip in light of a document I got just today, actually from the oil baron, from James Comer, the chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability, with a scathing letter to Linda Kahn, Kahn, who is the FTC commissioner, and summarizing, he's saying, hey, you are a shill for the Democrats.
	You're going out there, you're doing all kinds of things.
	You're shilling for the Biden-Harris or for the Harris team.
	You're running political cover.
	You're threatening all kinds of companies.
	And just reading through this, I'm like, huh, do you think that what's happening now suddenly...
	That this is a message to Google like, you better continue doing what we agreed you'd do with searches and how things show up and what videos you surface or don't surface on Google, on YouTube.
	Feels like there's a little bit of...
	It's a scam. Yes.
	Yes, it's a scam. If you're going to go out...
	This idea about the Google Store...
	Yeah. What about the Apple Store?
	Talk about your walled garden.
	Well, Apple doesn't have a huge consumer search business.
	Well, the search thing, that is different.
	Yeah, and the search is skewed, and they want it to remain skewed, and I guess they're getting so much flack about it that maybe the skew is not as bad as it should be.
	It's got to be more skewed.
	Yeah. I mean, this is the same as the reports.
	I have a bunch of clips on this.
	The New York Times. Did I get these clips?
	Yeah, I got the New York Times.
	Yeah. Yeah, this is kind of...
	This talks about...
	Unfortunately, this thing went on for 15 minutes.
	I don't think I even got the gist of it correctly.
	But it was just too hard.
	Yeah, I hear you. But it was about how the left...
	And we notice this because you notice it, I notice it.
	If you go to Mastodon, all these lefties are on Mastodon bitching and moaning about the New York Times.
	They're not going after Trump enough.
	Oh my God. You mean Jarvis and Rosen?
	No, Jarvis and everybody. Every journalist that's on Mastodon is going on and on about it.
	We should be more proactive.
	Yes, you're not doing it right.
	Hashtag broken New York Times.
	Yeah, and the people that are still on the dead bird.
	Hey, get with it, you old fogies.
	Podcasting's where it's at. And so, you can play a couple of these clips and see if you can get a gist.
	All right. Where's this from, this New York Times report?
	This is a New York Times report, another NPR fine report.
	Yoy, yoy, yoy, yoy.
	Really? Sorry.
	Okay. All right. Here we go.
	Social media influencers are a big part of this year's election.
	Whoa! What happened to the podcasters?
	Social media influencers are a big part of this year's election.
	They translate the news for their followers.
	But the news they spread has to come from somewhere, often a news organization.
	So we're talking with a behind-the-scenes influencer, Joe Kahn, executive editor of the New York Times.
	In people's minds, there's very little neutral middle ground.
	In our mind, it is the ground that we are determined to occupy.
	Joe Kahn is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter who now runs the Times Newsroom.
	We met him at the Times headquarters building in Manhattan.
	There is, as you know very well, a long-standing conservative or Republican critique of the New York Times, but the special passion in criticism of the Times in this election cycle seems to me to be on the left.
	You're nodding. Why do you think that is?
	It's a good question, and I struggle with it often because the left has really high expectations of the New York Times.
	I think some of them honestly distorted.
	I just thought that was such a giveaway.
	Yeah. He's nodding, yeah, I don't get it.
	I don't understand why the left, because they've always been our biggest fans.
	Yeah, it's so weird.
	Oh, I said weird. Oh, you said, oh.
	I know, it's like 15 to 13 now.
	I know. I know it's bad.
	I blame Tina. It does help when you point it out.
	Yes. So, let's listen to part two of this.
	If you've heard about Project 2025, the conservative blueprint for a future Republican administration, one reason may be that the Times covered it a lot last year.
	You know, that's something that you want to cover deeply, fully, fairly, and provide people with some substance to analyze that.
	I'm thinking of one particular story that we could pluck out of the river of Times coverage.
	And I paraphrase here, but the story used the word plan.
	Harris has a plan for housing.
	Trump has a plan for housing.
	And Trump's plan is he's going to deport illegal immigrants and make more room for everybody else.
	And I thought to myself, that's not actually a plan.
	That's a slogan. And I'm just trying to describe it accurately.
	Is that an example where maybe you were trying a little too hard to be fair to each side?
	How is that being fair to each side?
	And this guy never, what is Harris' plan?
	It's never reported what her plan is.
	And this guy who's doing the reporting from NPR is obviously a Trump hater.
	And it just comes through with this discussion.
	And I think part three maybe bring a little more light to it.
	Well, I think what we've tried to do with respect to housing is housing's an absolutely major problem.
	And we basically took it to both campaigns and said, what would you do about this concretely?
	Not just talk about it rhetorically, but what are your plans?
	And Harris and the Harris campaign responded and we looked at And we asked the same thing of the Trump people.
	You're absolutely right.
	Their response was, we will deport immigrants who are occupying too much housing and free that housing up for American citizens.
	And I think we frontally pointed out in that piece that there's extremely little evidence that illegal immigrants who would be deported are occupying a significant chunk of housing.
	It would make any difference at all in the affordable housing crisis.
	That was one of Khan's defenses against the claim that his paper is soft-peddling Donald
	Trump.
	What?
	Huh.
	Bye.
	How is that soft-pedaling Donald Trump?
	They criticized his whole plan, never mentioning what Harris's was, and this is somehow soft-pedaling?
	Here, Jeff Jarvis posts a link to the New York Times opinion.
	Joy is working for Harris, but can it close the deal?
	Jeff Jarvis's post.
	Sigh! The media trope that voters need to learn more about Harris.
	Well then, do your job and inform them that's your job!
	Wow. Yeah.
	You could probably just read those kinds of posts on Mastodon.
	They're not on Twitter. Yeah, I'll find another one for you.
	And keep us entertained for days.
	Hashtag broken post calls this.
	We are going to beat the reporters into retardation, pugnacity, ridiculous peace.
	Why might he lose women?
	He's a damn sexual predator.
	Say it! Is the Trump campaign's male-dominated culture losing women votes?
	Oh, my God.
	And then he posts the Washington Post.
	What a pissy, jealous piece of shit this is from the hashtag broken post.
	Oh, God.
	Jeff Jarvis. Calm down.
	Take a CBD. Grab a gummy.
	Grab something.
	I mean, it's like...
	These are professional journalists.
	It's falling apart. It's falling apart.
	And people like Call Her Daddy and Rogan make hundreds of millions of dollars.
	They're beside themselves with envy and anger and they just take it out on anything they can.
	And it's all Trump's fault.
	Well, of course. Because he told everybody the fake news is the enemy of the people.
	And the people went, huh, that's an interesting point.
	What I, the biggest kick I get out of that is when he talked about it initially back in 2015, he said, and he made a point, he says, well, you know, I said, well, they're saying the news is the enemy of the people.
	And he says, no, I said the fake news is the enemy of the people.
	It turns out that the original assertion was true.
	It's the news.
	It's not the, it's all of them.
	They're the, literally the enemy of the people.
	Yes. They lie and then you can see when it starts to come out of guys who are supposedly journalists and supposedly reporters and people are supposed to be objective.
	They're not objective and those tweets from Jarvis are a good example.
	That's not objectivity.
	Let's give nothing but free coverage to Harris because she's such a genius.
	She is a moron, Jeff.
	She's an idiot.
	You can see it in her eyes.
	You can see it in her responses.
	She's a stupid human being, and it's beyond me that anyone can't see this.
	It's obvious to most people.
	Go podcasting!
	I was wondering what you're going to come up with.
	Yeah. Do we need to play more of this?
	No, the last thing is another completely different topic and it's just not important.
	Alright, well then let me just play this one because you won't read this on X. It will be suppressed.
	You heard it here. For months, American billionaire Elon Musk has been in the tug of war with the Brazilian courts, but he has proven to be outmuscled.
	X will once again be available in Brazil, as the Supreme Court on Tuesday ordered the reinstatement of the social network throughout the country.
	X welcomed the news.
	X is proud to return to Brazil.
	We will continue to defend freedom of speech within the boundaries of the law everywhere we operate.
	Supreme Court Judge Alexandre de Moraes cited insufficient safeguards against disinformation when blocking X in August, a ruling that ex-owner Elon Musk vowed to fight.
	But instead, he capitulated.
	In addition to paying a fine of nearly 5 million euros, the social network has agreed to appoint a new legal representative in the country and delete accounts with links to the far right.
	One of the reasons for Musk's change of heart, pressure from investors.
	With its 22 million users, Brazil is the largest economy in Latin America and a major source of revenue for X. Another of the American billionaire's companies, internet service provider Starlink, also suffered from X's suspension.
	Its bank accounts and financial assets were temporarily frozen in order to cover fines imposed on X. Okay.
	I guess money does matter over free speech.
	Free speech. Well, it would for you, too.
	It would for anybody. He's not dumb.
	No, but I'm not going out there saying, I'm never going to do it.
	Screw you, Brazil.
	Free speech on me.
	What? What?
	Oh. What'd you say, investor?
	What? Starlink?
	Okay, whatever you say goes.
	All right, then. Of course he did.
	Of course it was a foregone conclusion.
	He wasn't going to put up with his assets being seized.
	And he knows these South American countries, they love to nationalize stuff.
	Yes. Let's nationalize Starlink.
	Yeah, all right. I have one more story here.
	Just a little update because speaking of Elon, when is he going to take over Boeing?
	Sticking with corporate news, talks to end the month-long strike at Boeing have broken down and are not slated to resume at this time.
	Boeing seemed especially frustrated with the union representing roughly 33,000 striking machinists.
	A Boeing executive told employees in a notes, quote, unfortunately, the union did not seriously consider our proposals.
	As a result, Boeing has ripped up an offer it called its, quote, best and final that would have boosted pay by 30%.
	The union, however, is not backing down.
	Union members are holding out for a 40% raise as part of a long list of grievances, quote.
	They refused to propose any wage increases, vacation sick leave accrual, progression, ratification bonus, or the 401k match, the union told Reuters, adding, quote, they also would not reinstate the defined benefit pension.
	The strike has pushed Boeing deeper into the red.
	It's estimated to lose $1 billion a month, according to S&P Global Ratings, on top of the $60 billion debt it is already carrying.
	With production shut down, Boeing is being forced to furlough workers.
	It is also exploring money-raising efforts to remain afloat, while the picket line proves to be an impenetrable force.
	This is bad.
	Effectively, the negotiations are just done.
	That was their last and final offer, if you remember.
	This is bad.
	Yeah. It's bad for workers.
	It's bad for our aero-defense space industry.
	Yeah. Yeah, so...
	But I don't know. How are we going to make all those...
	We're flying on Lockheed jets again.
	And these Boeing...
	And this is not really discussed.
	Is this only the aircraft division or is this all of Boeing?
	Does this include the bomb guys and the F-35 guy?
	It's got to be everybody.
	Yeah. I mean, how are we going to get...
	A billion a month?
	That affects all the divisions.
	How are we going to get Mark Ritter all of his weapons?
	Yeah, there you go.
	That's the main concern.
	Yes. I think Elon should expand his military contracting empire.
	I think Elon should take over Boeing.
	Yeah, he can pretend he invented that.
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	What are you drinking? I'm not drinking.
	That was just me doing nothing.
	I want to mention as you go on and on that we did not again get any donations from Elon Musk.
	Nope. No will ever get them thanks to you.
	Gee, I wonder why. I wonder why.
	Hey, you can post it on X for free.
	All right, John, take us through the 50s.
	It's a very short list. Yeah, we have a few people to thank, starting with David Newitt in Mason, Texas.
	Where's Mason, Texas? It's right above, I don't know.
	Does it have anything to do with the Mason-Dixie line?
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	$170. I don't know for sure.
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	Her smoking hot husband, Mark.
	Nice. She needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
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	She does say this.
	You two always hit the nail on the head.
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	Oh, already is Kevin McLaughlin, Conquer North Carolina, Archduke of Luna, lover of American booze with 8008.
	Sir Mainframe in Ventura, California, 64.
	Ralph Capone or Capone in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, 6325.
	Grayson Insurance. Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado for all your insurance needs, 6006.
	Troy Funderburk in Missoula, Montana, 55.
	Some unknown person in Aledo, Texas.
	Mark Hardwick, as a matter of fact, 5333.
	I don't know why his name is missing from the line.
	Brittany, is it missing on yours?
	Yes. Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado, 5272.
	Sir Lineman in Anna, Illinois, 5272.
	He is Sir Lineman of the Net Raleigh Hawk Baron of Southern Shillanois.
	That's him. Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa.
	$51. Oh, there they are.
	Bad Idea Supply.
	Look them up on the internet. They make great burning gear.
	$50.50. And whoop, boom.
	We're already at the 50s. We don't have a big list today.
	Whoop, boom. Whoop, boom.
	Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington, 50.
	Ray Howard in Kremlin, Colorado.
	Robertson Home in Flint, Michigan.
	We talked about them earlier. Edward Mazurik, Sir Edward in Memphis, Tennessee.
	William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware.
	William Spain in Springdale, Colorado.
	Arkansas. Michelle Petty in Grand Forks, North Dakota.
	Stephen Schumach in Xenia, Ohio.
	And already the list is done because we have Jason Deluzio there in Miami Beach, Florida.
	Last on the list. I want to thank all these people for helping this make 1703 or two.
	1702 to show that it is.
	Yes, and thank you to all our sustaining donors who came in under $50, some for reasons of anonymity, but many just putting together five bucks a week, a show, a month, whatever works for you.
	NoagendaDonations.com.
	And got a note from Darren, the pre-show guy.
	You'll recall we had a karma for his dad on the last show, and he follows up and he says, I am a believer in no agenda health karma and the prayers that come along with it.
	They did the T scan on my dad today and found a bit of scar tissue on his heart valve, but not the infection they seemed to think they'd find.
	He went into his local hospital's ER on Thursday when his legs, ankles, and abdomen started to swell.
	It all started with the abdomen.
	Seems not a lot of people know that's a sign of congestive heart failure.
	I was unaware. They got the swelling down, did an endocardiogram, echocardiogram on his heart.
	That's when they saw what they thought was an infection in the valve.
	Turns out it was just scar tissue.
	So his dad is doing great, and it looks like he's coming home today or tomorrow, and we could not be happier.
	No Agenda Karma and prayers work.
	We're so happy for you, Darren.
	Once again, noagendadonations.com.
	Karma of health for anyone who needs it.
	You've got karma.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I'm so much happier.
	Anna Johnson wishes her smoking hot husband Mark Johnson a very happy one.
	He turned 41 on October 7th.
	Zev Green is turning 49 tomorrow.
	Sir Bob, protector of Western Foco, wishes his sister Pam a happy one.
	Her birthday will be tomorrow.
	And he also says happy birthday to his son Andrew.
	He'll be turning 18 tomorrow as well.
	And we say happy birthday to everybody on behalf of the staff and management of your
	No Agenda Show.
	Captain Luke, Knight of the Barbary Coast, upped his donations and he is now up to Captain Luke, Baron of Sonoma County and Commodore of all coastal and riverine operations therein.
	Which brings us to our Commodores.
	We are very proud to Welcome them in.
	Certificates are on their way once you give us your information.
	Here we go. We welcome Commodore Captain Luke IV, Commodore Tyrell McMahon, Commodore SX-64, Commodore Bay Area Wildfire, Commodore Mark Alcoser, Commodore Anonymous from Silver Spring, Commodore Steve Banser, and Commodore Anonymous.
	Arriving. Oh, man.
	I love those Commodores.
	Go to NoAgendaRings.com.
	That's where you can also get your Commodore certificate.
	Just give us the information on what you want on it and where to send it.
	And we have a knight as well, John.
	So here's my sword. Here you go.
	Whip it out. There it is.
	Zev Green, come on up, Zev.
	Thanks to your support of the No Agenda Show and the amount of $1,000 or more, I'm very proud to pronounce the case, the Sir Zev Mo, protector of the digital wallet.
	By request, we have a couple of things here at the roundtable.
	First of all, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, old casbier, and Al-Tazaz chicken, along with potato kugel and kombucha.
	Also with that, we've got Rubin S. Women and Rosé, Geisha and Sake, Vodka Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon.
	We've got Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils.
	We've got Breast Milk and Pavlov and, of course, the always effervescent Mutton and Mead.
	Welcome to the Roundtable, my friend.
	And you also go to NoAgendaRings.com.
	That's where you'll see the handsome No Agenda Night Ring.
	It's a signet ring so you can hit people in the mouth. It'll leave a beautiful mark or you use the wax that we
	Add to your package to seal your important important correspondence with and also just like your Commodore ship
	if you have one It comes with a certificate of authenticity and thank you
	very much for supporting the no agenda show also known as the best podcast in the universe
	No one Yeah
	It's not a holiday!
	I'm gonna getcha!
	We have one report today.
	It's a very mini-report.
	You'll recall Sir Andre of the empty PayPal became Sir Andre of the broken brain and he had to go into the hospital and he's rehabilitating and half of his...
	One half of his body is paralyzed, and so the folks over there in the Netherlands decided to do a little mini-meetup with him.
	This is Frank, aka Mike.
	Meetup Report, 6th of October, from Groesbeek.
	Hi, in the morning, in Deem Pemsendam.
	In the morning, Sir Andre Knight with a broken brain, and I've got two visitors in my hospital room here.
	Frank, a.k.a. Mike and Dame Paps, I'm so happy with all the visitors that are coming from the NA Group.
	In the morning, thank you for your courage.
	In the morning!
	I love that. There you go.
	Connection is protection. That's what those no-agenda meetups are about.
	You meet people who will even visit you in the hospital when your brain is broken.
	I'm telling you! You need to go to one of these.
	And you could actually go to the Northern Wake Public Slave Gathering, 6 o'clock today in Raleigh, North Carolina at Hoppy Endings.
	Or Saturday, Michigan Local 1 assembles for the meetup by the bay at 2 o'clock in Bar...
	Bar...
	Wow, was it? Barkwa, BC? Barkwa, BC. Hmm.
	Bay City, Michigan. Check noagendameetups.com to make sure I said that right.
	The Treasure Valley Meetup will be taking place at 3 o'clock at the Heritage Social Club in Garden City, Idaho.
	Also on Saturday, the six-week cycle threat number two, our Democracy Oktoberfest Meetup 333 at Cibala's Mexican Grill in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
	And our next show day on Sunday, the TooManyEggs.com meetup.
	Number seven, Margaritas Keene in Keene, New Hampshire.
	Here's what's on the way.
	We have Charlotte, North Carolina on the 17th.
	Fredericksburg, Texas, the big one.
	Curry and the Keeper will be there.
	Please join us for that.
	A lot of people coming in for that one.
	That's right here in Fredericksburg.
	The 19th, Bedford, Texas.
	On the 20th, Cincinnati, Ohio.
	Okeechobee, Florida.
	Spearfish, South Dakota.
	Alpharetta, Georgia.
	On the 26th, LaGrange, Illinois.
	London, UK.
	Ottawa, Ontario.
	Houston, Texas.
	On the 28th, Minneapolis.
	On the 2nd of November, Richland, Washington.
	Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
	Emeryville, California.
	On the 9th, Bedford, Texas.
	And Bastrop, Texas.
	Whoa, are we doing dueling meetups?
	On the 10th, Ocala, Florida.
	On the 11th, Springfield, Missouri.
	The 16th, Bedford, Texas again.
	Shakopee, Minnesota on the 16th.
	Sacramento, California the 27th.
	We're into December. Goleta, California on the 5th.
	West Palm Beach, Florida on the 15th.
	And Adventura, Florida on January 19th.
	Just a few of the No Agenda Meetups.
	They go well into 2025 and beyond.
	Please join one of these at least once.
	I guarantee, I guarantee you, you will want to go to more because it's just like potato chips.
	You crunch one and you can't stop.
	No Agenda Meetups. Connection is protection.
	Go to noagendameetups.com.
	If you can't find one, start one yourself.
	Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days
	You wanna be where you want me, triggered or held to blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same
	Fun ladda lap dam, bah bah, like a party It's like a party! Like a party!
	Okay, ISOs. This is where we choose the ISOs, the end of show ISOs, that always leave you with just that little, oh boy, I love that show.
	I'll be at the Emeryville meetup.
	Oh, you will? Nice.
	Is that another get John out of the house meetup?
	Yes, it is, but it's going to be at the Trader Vic's in Emeryville.
	Do you have the date there?
	And it is on November 2nd.
	This is November 2nd?
	That's what it says, yeah. Are you available?
	Are you available? That's family friendly so people can go there.
	With your kids? With the kids so we can get to see Violet again.
	Oh. Specifically.
	Oh, okay. Oh, nice.
	Let me see. Yeah, I got it.
	So what do you got? How many do you got? I got four.
	I'll play them for you. It's just wrong.
	I have that one.
	I have. Of course I have.
	Okay. Heads I win, tails you cheated.
	Mm-hmm. And...
	So what? Okay.
	I think the so what is at least worth considering.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, sorry. Okay, let's start with...
	I have two. Mm-hmm.
	But they're gems. One is sexy.
	How can those two be so sexy?
	Oh, wow.
	Already a winner in my book.
	And then this is one of the podcast ones.
	That is the best podcast ever.
	Ha ha! Oh, I don't know which one to choose.
	How can those two be so sexy?
	I like that.
	That is the best podcast ever.
	I think it's got to be the best podcast ever.
	What do you think? Yeah, it's muddier though.
	But it is more appropriate.
	It's funny. It's funny.
	It's good. It's good.
	What does the troll room say?
	They're both too long.
	Okay, trolls, thank you. Hey everybody, it's time for that moment at the end of the show.
	John's tip of the day.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam.
	Okay, so I have to, I'm going to do a couple things today.
	Oh, you're going crazy.
	First one is, let me have to do a quick search on something.
	All right, but you've got to stay on the mic, because whenever you, like...
	I'm on the mic, I'm right all over the mic.
	You're not on the mic. If I wasn't on the mic, I don't know what I'd be doing.
	You're nowhere near the mic. I'm right on top of it.
	You're off mic. If I was any closer to the mic, it'd be behind me.
	Okay, well, try that.
	First of all, I want to kill the previous tip.
	You're killing a tip? Killing a tip.
	Does it have to be removed from tipoftheday.net?
	No, you can leave it there, but I think it has to have a disclaimer.
	It's the AliExpress.
	AliExpress is no good.
	But that brings us to today's tip.
	AliExpress is no good because I purposely bought two flash drives, thumb drives, USB drives, whatever you want to call them.
	Advertising. Whatever you want to call them.
	I call them threat vectors.
	That I knew were phonies because you don't buy a terabyte of USB drive for $3.
	There's no such thing.
	Wow. There was no shipping and handling, so it came to your door for $3, so $6 total.
	You got two terabyte thumb drives, and were they Pez dispensers?
	What were they? If you put them through a system, which is what I'm going to recommend as the tip of the day, there are products out there, and the one I'm going to recommend is a thing called CheckFlash.
	Which was written by a Ukrainian, and I think the current version out is 1.17.0.
	And it was written by a Ukrainian, and when you buy the drive, you have to do this at the beginning because it erases everything.
	It will check to see if your terabyte drive really contains anything near a terabyte.
	So if you get a bad drive, like these phony drives I bought from AliExpress, you stick it in and it says, no, this is not a terabyte drive.
	This is not a 500 gigabyte drive.
	It's a one kilobyte drive.
	But the header inside the drive will say, oh, yeah, terabyte.
	You've got a terabyte.
	So you start putting something on there and it just craps out after you put one video on there that won't retake it.
	And you realize the whole thing's a scam.
	And what makes them want to take AliExpress off the list is that they will refund your money for these phony baloney products that they sell.
	But for a week, over a week, I went to the return site, website, and he's all down, we can't do it now, call back later.
	So I lost like 10 bucks or whatever it cost me for these two products.
	But you gained a lot of malware since you stuck that thing into your machine.
	No, there's nothing on there.
	Mm-hmm. Well, for one thing, I didn't stick it in the machine because I ran CheckFlash immediately.
	Which, a Ukrainian piece of software.
	You're betting a thousand. No, this is good stuff.
	This Ukrainian guy is a geneticist who just happened to dream this piece of software up.
	This software, I check it through.
	That's the other thing. So, CheckFlash is...
	The product I like, it was written for Windows 8, still works fine.
	But no, there are products out there, and people can identify the best of them, but they're all over the place.
	Things that check the download, so you can see if there's any malware attached to it.
	Now, I got this one from Major Geeks, and it seemed to be okay.
	It didn't seem to have any malware.
	I have products that check that, and that's another tip.
	But the tip is, when you buy a flash drive, and Amazon has sold these.
	They have sold these fake drives that say, oh, it's a, you know, it'll say something like 64 gigs and 64 gigs is a buck.
	No, there's nothing on, the drive is bull crap.
	So you have to buy one of these checkers that checks the flash drive.
	If anyone has a better one than check flash, let me know.
	We'll plug it in the future.
	But that's what you do. So what's your tip?
	And I just bought a couple of drives recently and I ran them through and they're fine.
	They're real. So what is the tip?
	The tip is, when you buy a new flash drive, a thumb drive, a USB drive, check it before you use it to make sure it's legit.
	All right. And what is that software called again?
	CheckFlash. Okay.
	All right. And what do you use these drives for?
	Do you hand them out to the kids who come up to the door?
	Hey, kids, want some files?
	I use them for a lot of different things.
	For example... If you want to take some old DVDs and turn them into MP4s and you put them on the drive to give them to one of the kids.
	Yeah, see? It's the easiest way to do it.
	Hey kids, want some DVDs?
	Want some movies? No one has a movie player.
	They don't play DVDs like you.
	No, I don't have a DVD. There's no such thing as a DVD. I don't have DVD drives anymore.
	John, will you please do me a favor?
	So you have to use these thumb drives for this stuff.
	Will you send me a thumb drive with some movies?
	Yeah, what movie do you want?
	You know, the good ones.
	Those movies are that stuff between you and Tina.
	This has been your tip of the day.
	Thanks for listening. Y'all come back now, you dear.
	There you go, everybody. A retracted tip and a brand new tip.
	Check Flash. Find them at tipoftheday.net and noagendafun.com.
	There you go. Hey, coming up next on the stream, let me see what we have.
	We've got... Oh, interesting.
	Bandrew Says is on the stream.
	He's a comic book blogger's buddy.
	This is the benefit of three-minute shorts on YouTube using shotgun mics in untreated rooms.
	Yeah, he's a mic expert.
	Don't get me started on mics, but he's a mic expert.
	End of show mixes, we have, let me see, Dee's Laughs, David Kekta, and we got the brand new guy, John Valentine.
	And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, home of the October 18th No Agenda Meetup here in Fredericksburg, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's kind of overcast, maybe chilly, and the Blue Angels are flying around, but you can't see them.
	That's just great. I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday with another three hours of media deconstruction just for you.
	Until then, remember us at noagendadonations.com.
	Adios, mofoza, hooey, hooey, and such!
	I think of her as America's wine mom.
	And then there's, I'm being stern so you don't realize how plastered I am.
	And I'm making a point.
	I'm talking to a little girl with me.
	Now I'm gonna go upstairs and don't knock on the door, cause I'm gonna pass out.
	Hiiii I'm a hyena giving out the old Berkley Hummer,
	distracting you for the next month into the summer.
	No agenda season, the reveal is here.
	Comrade, come on, hey, let's kick it into gear.
	Sweet Willie Brown side piece, giving oral orifice service on her knees to get her head
	cheese.
	Pastor Manning saying that he had her nose wide open.
	Come Queen, like Joe Brown said it and was not joking.
	Shooting back, matter of fact, cleaning his gun on a stream.
	A serious man from what I can gleam.
	Trump saying that she had a lunatic laugh, but put it in her head, now he's inside, let's wait for the
	gaff.
	Saying that she's gonna be so bad, not only video but the first campaign ad.
	True social and not X.
	Blasted on the far right, hell of a flex.
	Biden is at wait after the debate.
	Progressives for the feeble minded, but maybe I'll just call him late.
	JD Van stepping up, I came to see my plane.
	Kamala the chameleon is wine drunk again.
	I'm confident it'll be free and fair.
	I don't know whether it'll be peaceful.
	He knows how to talk tough.
	But more importantly, he knows when the time for talk is over
	and it is time to fight for what is right.
	Ladies and gentlemen, it's Donald Trump on Defense of the Nation.
	Meet the fake press.
	Deface.
	Somebody's in can have a beer with.
	You asked for Miller in my life.
	The champagne of beers.
	There you go. Kamala flew to a fundraiser in San Francisco, a city she absolutely destroyed.
	She destroyed San Francisco.
	What's not good at all?
	Well, families desperately tried to escape the rising floodwaters, and they climbed onto roofs.
	They did anything they can to live, but Kamala didn't send any helicopters to rescue them.
	And when people sent helicopters, they turned them back.
	They're pro-eating bugs.
	Intimophagy. Insectivore.
	We're like crickets.
	Eat the bugs, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, aren't you glad?
	You own nothing and you're happy.
	Don't be sad, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, aren't you glad?
	You own nothing and you're happy.
	Don't be sad, comrade.
	Groundwork pays for breakfast.
	Cricket tents and pay for lunch.
	The groundwork was soft and creamy.
	But the crickets, they had some crunch.
	Eat the bugs, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, aren't you glad?
	You own nothing and you're happy.
	Don't be sad, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, aren't you glad?
	You own nothing and you're happy.
	Don't be sad, comrade.
	The roasted spiders also tasted.
	The roach-powder protein shake.
	Dear leader gave us bags of weebles.
	Tell me what you're going to make.
	Let's make.
	Eat the bugs, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, aren't you glad?
	You own nothing and you're happy.
	Don't be sad, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, aren't you glad?
	You own nothing and you're happy.
	Don't be sad, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, comrade.
	Eat the bugs, aren't you glad?
	You own nothing and you're happy.
	Don't be sad, comrade.
	Eat the buzz, comrade!
	Eat the buzz that you planned!
	You are nothing, you're happy!
	Don't be sad!
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