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	No, no, no. Mom, no, no, no, no.
	You don't. No, no, no.
	Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, October 13, 2024.
	This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media assassination episode 1703.
	This is no agenda.
	With boots on the ground everywhere and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texasville country here in FEMA Region No.
	6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	Yeah, from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're awaiting the Argentinian gang.
	This is John C. Boyd.
	It's Crackblot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning. Aren't they the Venezuelans or Argentinians?
	Oh, I said Argentinian.
	That was a botch. Yes. Trenda Aragua.
	Yeah. Well, we might as well just submit to it.
	There's nothing we can do.
	It's the fifth time we've been through it.
	The news is all...
	That's all that it is.
	It's all...
	Everybody's going crazy.
	Everybody's going crazy.
	Because it's a very tight race.
	It's so close. So close.
	I have the race run down here, as you brought it up.
	I think I can intro it with this.
	Oh, hold on a sec. This is the, I think is Trump-Harris...
	Campaign rap.
	Campaign rap from NPR. Sounds right.
	Former President Trump is on the campaign trail along the West Coast today.
	He started with a Hispanic roundtable in Las Vegas.
	We have far more people, far more support than the other side.
	And really the term, Make America Great Again, we are...
	The party of wanting to make America great again.
	Right now we have a country that's a nation in decline.
	And he holds a rally in Southern California's Coachella Valley at this hour.
	Vice President Harris is campaigning in North Carolina this weekend.
	She's in Raleigh tonight and holds a rally in Greenville tomorrow.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	As Amir's Asma Khalid reports, he'll be traveling through rural counties in the south.
	The former president, who himself is from the south, intends to campaign in rural Georgia this weekend.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	His planning stops Sunday and Monday ahead of in-person early voting, which begins in the state on Tuesday.
	Prior to Biden in 2020, the last time a Democrat won Georgia was Clinton in 1992.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Later in the week, the former president will travel to eastern North Carolina, again with the goal of reaching rural voters.
	This guy was on the heels of former President Barack Obama, who is also on a campaign blitz for Harris in this final stretch of the campaign.
	Both are aiming in part to boost support for Harris among men.
	Polls show the race between Harris and former President Donald Trump remains incredibly tight.
	She's very breathy in that report.
	So, in the infamous words of Notebook LM, let's take a deep dive into this.
	Let's unpack this.
	Let's see what's going on.
	Because the big news that was flooding the socials was Obama talking down to the black men.
	The Harris campaign is clearly worried about her standing with young black men.
	And they're sending Barack Obama out these final three plus weeks to try to reach them.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	This is an affectation that I'm noticing, and it may just be age, but Obama has the same thing that Howard Stern has.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	The voice no longer has the power.
	Do you know what I mean? He's mic'd poorly.
	And it's in an echoey room, which I, you know, I had that clip, but it's so echoey.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Your version was a little better than what I have.
	Well, this was, I mean, there's more to it because this is the Chris Wallace show on CNN. Yeah, they probably couldn't use much of it either.
	It was terrible. No, it was very bad.
	Lulu, Harris is leading among black men and Latino men, but not nearly by the same margins that Biden enjoyed in 2020.
	That is dad Obama right there.
	It's him sort of adopting that tone of scolding and saying, hey, men, why aren't you actually backing women?
	I don't know that that was the best tactic, I'll be honest with you.
	It's not really persuading people.
	At the end of the day, she has a problem with men.
	There is a huge gender gap, though, in this election.
	This is, as it's been dubbed, the gender election.
	And I think if I... Have you heard this being dubbed the gender election yet?
	I've never heard that until this clip.
	It's fake news, Lulu. There's a huge gender gap, though, in this election.
	This is, as it's been dubbed, the gender election.
	And I think, if I were Kamala Harris, I'd rather have women than men.
	The kinds of men that Donald Trump has are irregular voters, they're low-prepared.
	Hold on, hold on. Irregular voters and low propensity.
	What does that mean, low propensity?
	That means they don't get out and vote.
	Oh, okay. Oh, well, that's kind of interesting then.
	It sounded like a slur, but now that you explained it, it just...
	Okay, sounds like it's probably true.
	Donald Trump has are irregular voters.
	They're low propensity voters.
	The kinds of people that Kamala Harris has are enthusiastic voters, black women, suburban women.
	These are the older women. These are the people that turn out.
	And so in this kind of divided election among gender lines, I think you'd rather have one than the other.
	I think I found one of those irregular, low propensity voters.
	Because they were all over my timelines.
	This guy, I think, is from Chicago.
	Woo! Woo!
	What you thought you was doing, Barack Obama?
	Boy, you done stepped out there.
	All you did was piss black men off, bruh.
	All you did was piss black men off.
	Why y'all think the American people...
	Why y'all think the Democrat Party owned black folk?
	The Democrat Party don't own black folks, bruh.
	What you thought you was doing with that?
	We see the play.
	We know we see the play.
	Kamala Harris is losing.
	She's not going to win.
	So you done stepped on out.
	Yeah, you know, black people, if you're voting for Donald Trump and not Kamala Harris, this is unacceptable.
	Man, look, look, look, check it out.
	This is what I got to say to you. One, two, Trump is coming for you.
	Three, four, you.
	I won't win no more.
	Five, six, the election was fixed.
	Seven, eight, y'all made a mistake.
	Nine, ten, Trump is coming again.
	Nine, ten, Trump is coming again.
	Bam! Bam!
	I said, what in the world is this?
	Man! That was one of my favorite low propensity voters.
	Yeah, there's a lot of clips like that floating around.
	Yeah, but I like that one the most.
	That guy's a good one. That guy's good.
	And then, of course, NPR had to, you know, the only thing they could do is just lay it out what Trump is talking about.
	Trump campaigned in Reno, Nevada last night, one of the swing states that may decide the election next month.
	He claimed he's attracting the support of black men.
	My numbers with black and especially black men.
	I love black men. I love them.
	I love them!
	I have gone through the roof with black men.
	Black men. Black men.
	I don't do quite as well with black women, I must say.
	Trump is to appear this afternoon near Las Vegas.
	No humor! No humor on NPR! Trump is later...
	I don't do quite as well with black women, I must say.
	Trump is to appear this afternoon near Las Vegas at an event billed as an Hispanic roundtable.
	Oh no, he's going off to the brown men now!
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	So... I have. Yes.
	Yeah? Well, I was going to say that the big thing now...
	Is, because Elon Musk said it will happen, is Trump, will he go on Rogan?
	Will Trump go on Rogan?
	This will decide the election.
	If Trump will go on Rogan, Trump on Rogan.
	This is whatever. People are emailing me.
	Why? Oh, man.
	Oh, no. He's got to be...
	What, to tell you to tell Joe to tell whatever?
	Yes, I need to talk to Joe to make sure that Joe doesn't go, you know, doesn't try to pull him apart, doesn't try to strongman him like he did with the moon landing guy.
	Oh, no, that would be horrible.
	Trump could lose! Please.
	I'm like... And just before you, because I know you have a clip lined up, What's her face?
	Kara Swisher, who's also on that Chris Wallace show.
	Well, no, she has some good advice for Kamala.
	Well, I think she's got to keep doing it.
	I think not enough in repetitions.
	Everyone does know Donald Trump, and he fills up every space that he can, whether it's with toxic stuff, loud or meandering.
	It doesn't really matter. He just fills up all the space.
	And so she has to do more and more.
	I think that she's going on Charlemagne Tha God is critically important.
	That was a great... Oh, yeah.
	That's a great booking for her.
	And he's... You know, he has a base of real fans.
	I think she should go on Joe Rogan.
	I think she should go on Fox News.
	I think she should go to every local station and just make herself so inevitable where she makes mistakes.
	And it's okay to make mistakes.
	But the fewer she does, the more mistakes seem glaring.
	Kara, are you tone deaf?
	She's... Boy.
	You do not want Kamala going on Rogan.
	She's not on the advisory committee. You do not want Kamala going on Rogan.
	Uh-uh. Uh-uh. So, I have two Trump clips from Coachella.
	Yes. He must have pulled in 100,000 people.
	You know, we had dinner with two friends.
	It happened to be in Austin last night.
	I had pizza with them. And they were recently...
	In Los Angeles, they were on PCH, and he was telling me that there's Trump trains going all up and down the Pacific Coast Highway.
	He says there's a lot.
	He says even more than Texas, people are waving flags, and they've got their houses completely all trumped out.
	Which is interesting because, you know, when it comes to the Electoral College, there's pretty much no win in California.
	No, it's impossible.
	But this is...
	The same in Washington.
	Mimi told me a similar story.
	She says up there she went to a meeting and...
	A local nearby town for some event, some book writer.
	And it was filled with a bunch of these Trump supporters and they have taken it upon themselves to do what they do like in Florida where they have all their pickup trucks and they load them up with Trump signs and flags.
	Yeah, Trump train. And they go all over the place, and it turns out that they annoy, they've got these Democrats that come running up to them screaming and going ballistic to such an extreme that they're making it a weekly thing.
	They do it because it's so much fun to get all these people aggravated.
	And then what they do is then when they come up to their trucks and they're all angry, then they roll the coal on them with the big 250 diesel.
	The big black cloud of smoke comes out.
	But what is the strategy here, other than just trying to rattle Kamala?
	Because it seems pretty impossible to get the electoral college votes you need, no matter how many people in California would be voting for Trump.
	It just seems like an odd strategy.
	No, it's winner-take-all states.
	Oh, wow.
	So he's going all out then.
	He thinks he can at least get enough popular vote to make it interesting.
	Well, California was red during Reagan.
	I mean, it wasn't.
	Yeah, we had other Republicans running the place, and so it's not like totally impossible.
	But, you know, the system underneath, the underlying system, the educational system, the universities and all the rest have been propagandizing so well that they can't.
	Maybe we're at a tipping point.
	Yeah, sure.
	Hey, you know what?
	I'm just going to call it. Tipping point, this election, California flips red.
	So I have two Trump clips from Coachella, and I have to apologize in advance.
	And believe me, I tried.
	Oh, you tried to make it sound good?
	There is a ground loop in here.
	Oh. And I'm apologizing profusely because this is the kind of thing that you specifically...
	It drives you nuts.
	Now, is this something that was in the Trump audio?
	It was in the Trump audio.
	Oh, God. I tried getting it out using Adobe.
	They couldn't do it. I tried getting it out using filters.
	It wouldn't work. It just screwed it up more.
	Okay, so what you're saying is, Adam, don't go all crazy about it.
	So, Adam, don't go all crazy about this.
	Okay, gotcha. But I have these two clips, and we don't have to play them both.
	We have to definitely play the first one, which is...
	The fat pig one.
	And I'll preface it by saying these are like, I think, new bits that Trump has incorporated.
	Okay, well good. He needed new material.
	Well, this is just, you know, he's been so reluctant to be insulting ever since they took a shot at him that he's gone about it now in a kind of a roundabout way of being insulting.
	And you know he just enjoys it and the crowd loves it.
	You know, they just loved it.
	I don't know what it is, but he does insult.
	It's like an insult comic.
	Well, I think it's very logical because, first of all, America used to be funny.
	We lost our funny decades ago.
	During Obama, we basically lost our funny.
	And it just kind of reminds people that we're Americans and that America, F yeah, you know, like Team America.
	I think it's something very deeply ingrained in the American psyche.
	Well, not in everybody, because a lot of people find it offensive.
	I think it's hilarious, personally.
	But this is, he's part of the speech, he's talking away, yak, yak, yak, and then somebody yells Willie Brown in the background of some insult.
	Okay. And so then Trump goes off on that, and then he goes into the tangent of, And I think, except for the buzzing, I think that this is his new way of doing insults, which is by doing the opposite, saying, I'm not going to do this, and then he goes ahead and does it.
	Your children are in danger.
	They can't go to school with these people.
	These people are from a different planet.
	Kamala is turning us into a third world nation.
	That's what happened in San Francisco.
	When she was the D.A., Of San Francisco, the things she did, she started that whole decline.
	With our victory, he says, Willie Brown.
	Who said that?
	Who's the guy? What?
	Stand up. This can only happen in California.
	Yes. I didn't say it.
	Remember that. He said it.
	He said it.
	He said it. Do you remember when a man...
	We're talking about this guy, Chris Christie, who went off the reservation, right?
	We have some people... And some guy shouts out to me, he's a fat pig, sir.
	Nobody heard it but me, you know, but it was so he said it.
	Sir, you should not call Chris Christie a fat pig.
	Please. He is not a fat pig.
	You shouldn't. You're very rude, sir.
	We're going to have to throw you out if you do it again.
	He is not a fat pig.
	And you know what? The press is saying, that son of a...
	I couldn't even report the circus.
	I was defending because you're not allowed to use the word fat.
	You can use any word you can.
	You cannot call somebody fat.
	That's not allowed anymore.
	You know, you lose your job, you lose your life.
	With our victory will, we are going to become, and quickly, the greatest, strongest, freest, safest, and most powerful nation the world has ever seen.
	And on day one, I will close the border and I will stop the invasion of illegal criminals coming into our country.
	And despite all of the damage that she has done to this state and to our nation in the past four years, she's the worst.
	Oh, she's terrible. She's terrible.
	You know, you should lose your nickname, Buzzkill.
	Because you couldn't kill the buzz.
	I couldn't kill that buzz.
	So he goes on about this fat pig thing, and I just thought it was just genius.
	He's also doing a lot of self-deprecating humor about, you know, oh, if I was in a bathing suit with this beautiful body.
	Oh yeah, he has a whole bit about Biden sleeping on the beach.
	Yeah, exactly. And he talks about the bathing suit and how is he, you know, with the paparazzi and all the rest.
	He goes on and on. The other one, which we don't have to play because the buzzing even bothers me.
	He goes off on Schiff, you know, he said, I'll just summarize it.
	He goes and says, you know, you can't really say bad things about people's appearance.
	And I'm never going to do that.
	He says, I'm not going to talk about Schiff.
	You know, he's got the smallest neck in the world.
	And he goes on and on. Right away.
	Yeah. Oh, man.
	Well, by the way, I noticed that Dennis Quaid was at the Coachella appearance.
	With Randy. Oh, I missed that.
	But wasn't it...
	I thought the brothers had a huge break during Obama or...
	No, when Trump was running against Hillary, if I recall, it's like, you know, didn't Dennis Quaid completely shun his brother?
	It's possible, but right now, ever since Dennis Quaid played Reagan...
	Right, right, right.
	But him and Randy were both there, along with a lot of other celebrities from Hollywood and elsewhere.
	It was a pretty interesting event, except for the buzzing.
	Yeah. Dennis Quaid, I saw him interviewed on, what was he interviewed on?
	Maybe it was Tucker. He was radically saved in AA, I think.
	Yeah, he's a Christian, so he's a real problem now.
	He'll never work again.
	So, speaking of that, so Bill Maher, I guess, you know, besides the black men, oh, now we're worried about the Christians, you know, I mean, excuse me, Christian nationalists.
	Bill Maher had that guy on Tim Alberta.
	He's the guy that...
	I guess his dad was a pastor and then he left the church and has been writing books about how dangerous they all are and it's all, ooh, we can't have any of this.
	And it was interesting because...
	In the middle of this interview, there's just this big lie, which was really...
	I mean, does this guy have a different Bible than me?
	Evangelicals must see a bigger picture than we see in Donald Trump.
	What is that?
	Look, I think, Bill, there is a person...
	No, you've got to go, look, I think, Bill.
	Look, I think... I'm going to try that on you.
	Look, I think, John. Let me just tell you.
	Look, look, look, look, I think, Bill.
	Look, I think, Bill, there is a persecution complex at work here that may seem silly and overblown to a lot of people from the outside looking in, right?
	But for folks inside the church who believe that the country is slipping away from them, that they no longer recognize the Christian America of their youth, and they believe that Donald Trump is an imperfect vessel for God's perfect will, and they look at him and say, well, the barbarians are at the gates.
	Maybe we need a barbarian to protect us.
	And I think, in many ways, there's almost a mercenary relationship here where Donald Trump's bad behavior almost reinforces their support because they look at him and say, well, no good Christian man is capable of protecting us in the way that he is, right?
	And so, in a way, it almost liberates him to behave badly and to say whatever he wants.
	Hold on a second.
	How is he behaving badly?
	Because he's calling Chris Christie a fat pig?
	Yes, that's very, very unholy.
	I don't know. He's behaving badly.
	You hear stuff like this.
	There was... I have a couple of clips coming up, and it's the same thing where they just throw this stuff out there, and it's just like, what are you referring to?
	What specifically is he doing?
	Now it's just one of those generally accepted things.
	Well, Trump is just, you know, the whole rundown.
	I had a friend of mine call me, and they're talking about how, I don't know how they can support Trump because he's lying all the time.
	I said, what are you talking about?
	Well, he said that Jamie Dimon is supporting him, and Jamie Dimon came out and said he wasn't supporting him.
	So that's just somehow, and even though that could not be, interestingly enough, Jamie Dimon could be supporting him, you know, he could have said something to Trump, and Trump assumed he was supporting him.
	Well, Trump, you know, there's rumors that he wants him to be the Fed chair, or Secretary of the Treasury.
	So it's possible that, you know, it's just, you know, one...
	These aren't the kind of lies that are important, if it's even a lie.
	This is like the 30,000 lies that were documented during Trump being in office, and half of them were, Trump said 15 when the number was 16.
	Oh, he's a liar!
	He said 15 when it's 16, you know, he's just...
	This kind of, and he's just accepted as a norm, and to say that he's behaving badly, what specifically?
	I have a couple of clips coming up that I'm going, it's the same thing.
	They just throw this thing in.
	They never document it.
	They just say it.
	Well, so what got my attention on this is some persecution complex, and therefore the Christians are like, well, we can just bring the devil in.
	We can just bring in Satan to beat down Satan.
	The logic escapes me of what he's saying.
	Because they look at him and say, well, no good Christian man is capable of protecting us in a way that he is, right?
	And so, in a way, it almost liberates him to behave badly and to say whatever he wants and sort of just creates this ongoing relationship where...
	Whatever he says and does, his support remains said.
	Okay, so then this guy's thumbing through his Bible is like, oh, I got one!
	I know! I know!
	I know who he is! He's the badass gunfighter who becomes, they give him the badge to be the sheriff.
	He doesn't know who he is. Or is Cyrus?
	I've heard that comparison.
	Can you explain that one to us?
	Who is Cyrus in the Bible?
	Yeah, Cyrus is the Old Testament Persian king who allows the Jews to go back and rebuild the temple, right?
	And the idea being that he's not one of them, but he protects them.
	And that Trump, in his own way, although certainly you do have a subset of these folks who believe that Trump actually is a Christian, that he had a born-again experience in the White House, that Mike Pence led him to Jesus in the White House, That's funny.
	Which would make the events of January 6th.
	I mean, if someone had led me to Christ, I feel like I'd probably try to help them if they were, you know, in danger at the Capitol.
	But set that aside. But most folks, I think, are pretty clear-eyed about who Trump is.
	They're not under any illusions about him being a, you know, Bible school Sunday school Bible reading guy.
	It's just that they view him as someone who's capable of protecting them from a culture that has slipped away in a country that they don't recognize.
	This is very strange because if you look at the core issues in America, That this guy and Bill Maher is just skirting.
	It's abortion.
	It's transgenderism.
	And it's borders.
	That's really the only thing that people care about.
	But this guy somehow...
	And the economy. Well, yes.
	But, you know, Christians, they all got money.
	They all load it. It's not a problem.
	Oh, yeah. Yeah. And by the way, this is only white Christians.
	Black Christians don't count.
	I think it's important to distinguish real persecution from manufactured persecution.
	So he's back to the persecution thing.
	And this is the best part of this interview.
	What's he talking about? Well, that he believes that Christians...
	Evangelicals, whatever, advertising, that they feel persecuted.
	And that that is why they want Trump, because Trump will set them free somehow.
	That's his whole thing.
	We've got Cyrus from Persia, and he protected the Jews.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	Right. So, you have Christians all around the world, in China, in India, in Sub-Saharan Africa.
	Yeah, they're really persecuted, okay.
	We could never conceive of having political power, of cultural influence, of any sort of privileged status conferred upon them because of their faith affiliation.
	And in some way, that helps the Christian movement in these areas to thrive and to be sort of organically strong and authentic.
	In Iraq? Are you kidding me?
	We're all sitting around going, hey!
	Most of them have been rousted. They're gone.
	They're not idiots. The American church is obviously a very different story in part because Privilege and status and power is all we've ever known.
	And so now when you see the demographics beginning to shift slowly, but they are shifting.
	And when you look at the prospect of what does a post-Christian America look like?
	What does it represent? I think to a lot of these folks here in the white evangelical movement, certainly the world that I came out of, they perceive it as a very real threat to them.
	And they're desperate to sort of hold on to what they have.
	But I think the story of Christianity, to your point...
	It's about real persecution and how your faith is strong enough in the face of whatever those challenges are to persevere.
	But we are at a stage now where we're sort of manufacturing these threats in order to justify the ways in which we treat people who are not us.
	This is completely bizarre what this guy is saying.
	And Bill Maher is like, oh yeah, oh yeah.
	I don't even understand what he meant by that last comment.
	Well, all that I think he's trying to say is...
	That we're in post-Christian America, which, I mean, we're certainly not in post-faith America.
	If you take all the different faiths in America, it's probably 75-80% believes in something, including Islam.
	But this guy...
	He thinks that the American church feels persecuted, whereas I think he's got it wrong.
	What happened is the American church woke up during COVID, not all, but a portion of it woke up during COVID and went, hold on a second, the government just shut us down.
	This is a much bigger issue.
	It's not about persecution.
	This is the actual fundamentals of our country, and that's in this final clip.
	You know, everyone has a different definition for Christian nationalism, and that's part of the problem, because we don't know exactly how to define it.
	Just call them KKK. It's easier.
	To me, Christian nationalism is really just the marriage of bad history and bad theology.
	Here we go. And one is a prerequisite for the other.
	Once you've gone around to the school boards and the legislatures, once you have changed the curriculum, once you have rewritten history, literally rewritten the history book, To convince people that, in fact, this was born to be a Christian nation.
	That, in fact, the Establishment Clause and the First Amendment, that those things were sort of an elaborate three-dimensional wink and nod from the founders.
	That they really did want for us to be an explicitly Christian nation governed by European Christian men.
	And that they were fine with an eventual theocratic takeover of our governing institutions.
	Bill, one time... Wow.
	Dude, have you read the Declaration of Independence?
	Have you read the Constitution?
	Have you even looked at the people who signed it?
	They're looking forward to the theocratic takeover.
	What trend line is he talking about?
	I have seen zero evidence of this.
	No. And you're, if anyone would be a Christian nationalist who described as such, it would be you, not me.
	Yes, completely. And I don't see any evidence that you're a Christian nationalist.
	I am, though. Of course I am.
	Of course I am. Of course.
	I don't know what he's defining as a Christian nationalist.
	But yes, it's the establishment clause that all comes down to this.
	They are afraid, for some reason...
	And this goes back to that crazy guy about the IVF in Alabama.
	I'm going to preface it before you say what they're afraid of.
	Let's start with the premise that we're dealing with out and out atheists.
	Yes. Bill Maher in particular and then this guy is an obvious atheist and they're promoting atheism which is, you know, you can promote whatever you want.
	That's the point of free speech.
	Yes. But let's not Let's not make it more out of it than atheism, which is what we're dealing with here.
	And it's fine. You want to be an atheist.
	It's your business. Right.
	But what he's trying to say is the danger here of the Christian nationalists is they believe that the government should only be run by Christians and that everyone needs to pray every morning.
	It's insanity.
	Right. It's insanity.
	And taking the establishment clause of the First Amendment and saying, oh yeah, they wanted to make sure that we can get in and they can run the whole thing like a church.
	But it's exactly the opposite.
	This guy is accusing people of that of which the atheists, like him, are guilty of themselves.
	Finish it up. And that they were fine with an eventual theocratic takeover of our governing institutions.
	Bill, once you get to that place where you accept that piece of history as being true...
	Then suddenly, the way that you read scripture is very different.
	And it becomes very easy for you to distort basic theology, the ways in which Jesus commands us to look forward to a kingdom that is not of this world.
	You begin to think that actually that kingdom is in this world.
	That it is here. It is now.
	What? How did he go from A to B? I don't know.
	It was completely bizarre.
	And fear-mongering over nothing.
	Other than Christians, they might, might, might, maybe might, we might get 10% more to vote this election.
	Maybe. This is all it's about.
	Of course. This is just about scaring the dumb dummies out there.
	Of course. Into believing this and that's going on and Trump's somehow going to be part of it and he has to be stopped.
	Yes. So we can put in an atheist like Kamala Harris.
	Yes. Who's a dummy.
	Yes. Whereas I can tell you the only thing the Christian nationalists are really talking about is a spiritual war between this guy, evil, and good.
	That's it. That's it.
	Anyway, I just thought it was kind of interesting that the fear is sad in a way.
	Anyway, what you got? What do I have?
	You said you had a series of clips.
	I didn't expect you to throw it to me out of the blue.
	Well, I mean, you said I have a series of clips right after this.
	No, I said I had the Trump clips.
	I got the shift clip.
	Okay, well then I have some serious Trump clips.
	Kind of serious. Well, please play.
	I will respond to these clips and then maybe I'll come up with something.
	Yes, he was on Maria Bartiromo.
	Trump? Yeah. Oh, I missed that.
	Not on her, but on her show.
	You made some news in your Detroit speech with news proposals, but I want to get your take on your economic policy, first debt and deficits, because you've said you want to eliminate taxes on tips, eliminate taxes on Social Security, on overtime pay, ending the double taxation of Americans living abroad, a proposal to make car loans interest tax deductible.
	That was said.
	You said that in Detroit. You even introduced this 15% corporate tax rate for companies to produce in America and hire American workers.
	So far, I'm like, yeah, let's do all that.
	I didn't know about the car loan.
	Yes, that's new. That came, I think, maybe been introduced at Coachella.
	And he does make a point at Coachella, another thing he says, which is something I've been saying, I don't understand how you can run for the presidency and promise tax increases and hope to get support.
	No, you can't. Which is what Camel is doing.
	I'm going to raise everybody's taxes.
	I'm going to gouge the rich and gouge everyone.
	Vote for me. It doesn't make sense.
	I think the idea of making your car loan tax deductible is genius.
	It was always deductible until 1986.
	Oh. Who changed that?
	Reagan. Why did he change that?
	We were out of money? I have no idea.
	It was during some period where it seemed like a good idea at the time and no one ever reversed it.
	Well, I didn't know that, but now that some people are paying 9% and 10%, You look at the car commercials.
	The lease is amazing.
	This will only cost you $4.99 a month, and then you freeze the frame and you look at the bottom with an $8,000 down payment.
	Okay, that seems like a good deal.
	By the way, this is the reason you want to get a 4K TV, what you just said.
	Oh yeah, so you can see that stuff.
	So you can read the fine print.
	And I don't want to go off the topic, but I just want to say the fine print.
	Have you seen those ads where they say, oh, this is for, you know, you get a special phone, they give you a free phone, and it tells you what you're saying so you can hear Johnny the baseball player.
	Oh, yeah, yeah. Like some Medicare scam.
	If you read the fine print, the whole thing, they route the call through India, and some guy listens in on the call and types in what he says.
	It says very clearly.
	No, it's not actually technology.
	No, there's no technology involved.
	It's a $5 phone, or $3 phone, because it's just a phone with big buttons.
	Well, it's also got a screen that you can read from the screen.
	Oh, okay. Wow. So there's no AI, huh?
	No, it's just some guy.
	Some guy, okay. Let me type this out.
	Does it say that? Some guy in India will be typing this out?
	It might as well say some guy.
	Some guy. Some guy in India is typing this out for you, Granny.
	But how will you pay for it?
	The Committee for a Responsible Budget says your plans will increase the debt by $7.5 trillion.
	But they don't know. The Wall Street Journal said that your plans will increase the debt and deficits more than Kamala Harris'.
	If I do this, you're going to have car companies coming back to the country because of the taxes and the tariffs.
	The tariffs will protect them when they come in.
	So they will protect from other companies coming in because if the other companies don't come in, they're going to have to pay massive tariffs.
	And that's it. So I was told, here's what was happening.
	China was building massive car plants, big car plants in Mexico.
	That's the new one. And I just spoke to the man that does it.
	He's a friend of mine. And I said, how's it going with Mexico?
	What's happening with the car plants?
	He said, sir, they've totally stopped.
	I said, why did they stop?
	Because they think you're going to be elected.
	As a friend of mine, John, whenever I call you, I want you to say sir, okay?
	Because I think that's very reasonable.
	It's very reasonable if I ask you a question as a friend.
	Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right, so how are you going to pay for it?
	So I'm just trying to understand how you're going to pay for all of this no tax on stuff.
	And you said that there's a lot of fat in government that you're going to save money.
	No, I said, I gave you an answer.
	Growth. We're going to grow at a level that you've never seen before.
	Okay. And we're going to have tremendous jobs, and we're going to have companies coming in left and right, and they're going to be building factories.
	They're going to take over empty hulks that are all over the place from companies that let's But you've also said that there's a lot of fat in government that you would want to.
	Incredible fat. So what agencies would you want to shut down?
	Well, let me have you ask another person that, because I'm going to have Elon Musk.
	He is dying to do this.
	You know, he's a great business guy, actually.
	You think of him for science and rockets, and every time I think he's telling me about a new screw that was developed, he's developed a new screw.
	Screws are difficult. Wait a minute.
	John, have you heard about the new screw?
	No. I have not heard about the new screw that he's developed.
	It may be a loose screw, but there's a new screw, apparently.
	And it's amazing, this screw.
	It's the most beautiful screw.
	It screws like no one else can screw you.
	I think he's telling me about a new screw that was developed.
	He's developed a new screw.
	Screws are difficult and it's made out of titanium.
	By the way, screws are difficult, just so you know.
	It's a new screw.
	It's an easy screw. Listen, Elon's an easy screw.
	Developed a new screw.
	Screws are difficult and it's made out of titanium and it's so exciting.
	But you know what? It's so exciting.
	He's a great business guy and he's a great cost cutter.
	You've seen that. And he said, I could cut costs without affecting anybody.
	So he will be in the cabinet.
	Not in the cabinet. He doesn't want to be in the cabinet.
	He just wants to be in charge of cost-cutting, who have a new position, Secretary of Cost-Cutting, okay?
	So he's not in the cabinet, but he's the Secretary of Cost-Cutting.
	Okay. This needs to be fleshed out.
	Okay, so I'm just going to take a little sidestep on Elon, and then we can get off the topic.
	Because... A lot of people looking at his star link that he's been giving away to the hurricane victims, particularly in West North Carolina.
	By the way, shout out to Bruce.
	Bruce is 72.
	He's been without power for 17 days, so I sure hope he gets his power back.
	There's still a lot of bad stuff going on up there.
	And... So now everyone has seen that these Starlinks that he's been bringing in, you still have to buy the equipment.
	It's discounted, so instead of $400, I think it's $299.
	And he's only giving you a month free.
	No, he said free until the end of the year.
	Oh, okay. Well, every report I saw was a free month.
	Yeah, no, it's free until the end of the year.
	All right. So, you know, okay.
	And then I was thinking...
	And I got this clip from Mike Benz, because he said something really interesting on the Sean Ryan podcast.
	All of this stuff that Elon does is really, it's irrelevant compared to Starlink.
	Starlink is really the main business.
	And when I look at this deal that he's giving to the people in North Carolina, I'm like, you know, the U.S. taxpayer paid for this.
	This is a military system.
	We can all pretend it wasn't a military system first, but it was.
	It's always been a military communication system that has a sheen of consumerism over it, which is the same as Tesla.
	You know, Tesla was, oh, look at this beautiful, everyone loves this, they're so sexy, they're so great, they drive themselves.
	But it really was part of the climate change agenda.
	And it really furthered the climate change agenda for many years until, you know, people are now, you know, probably a little less happy about them.
	So Starlink, for my money, they should be giving it away for free for two years to these people because we basically paid for it the way I see it.
	I don't have physical receipts, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
	Now, everyone loves Starlink.
	I have it as a backup. You're considering it as a backup.
	So that really means that there can be a single point of failure.
	There can be a single point of failure.
	Censorship, which I don't expect, but there certainly can be a single point of surveillance.
	And Mike Benz and Sean Ryan diving...
	Would that be different than the single point of surveillance of that building, the AT&T building in San Francisco there on whatever, 4th Street?
	Yeah, I think it's a little different because...
	Or the NSA operation in Utah?
	Yeah. Well, yes, I think it is.
	I mean, this is a much more direct, you're directly connected.
	You can target, okay, I need to listen to that guy.
	Boom, tap into that guy.
	I think it's a little easier, actually, than, so first AT&T, you know, they were making a whole copy of the internet, and the NSA, I mean, they have to record everything, then you go back and try and find it.
	In this case, it's very targeted, like, oh, I know where Dvorak is, let's see what he's doing.
	So I think it is different.
	So now we go to the Brazil thing.
	Why did Elon buckle to the Brazilian government over X? It was really about Starlink.
	And it starts to come together when you hear this.
	China has just launched this new SpaceX competitor that just recently put its first constellation of its satellite megaproject in play.
	And this Starlink...
	Competitor, Starlink market killer, is something that I would not be surprised if Brazil pursues as a Starlink substitute.
	Lula hitched his star to China.
	Bolsonaro was very hostile to Chinese soft power and Chinese investment in Brazil.
	And Lula, who again was backed by the U.S. State Department, they wanted him to win.
	The State Department, the CIA, and the DOD on Bolsonaro to warn him against questioning the election.
	They didn't do that to Lula. And again, this whole censorship apparatus was set up by the State Department and USAID to kill Bolsonaro's political support.
	So they wanted Lula to win, and Lula has reversed decades of China hostilities, and immediately, as soon as he got into office, declared that, effectively, China is the linchpin of Brazil's new economic development plan, that they're going to be a long-distance part of China's Belt and Road Initiative.
	So they are now hitching their start at China, which means...
	Who is this guy? Mike Benz?
	Well, that's Mike Benz, okay.
	They're going to need to do favors for China, for China to do favors in kind.
	So I didn't know that China had launched a new Starlink competitor, and when you have a country like Brazil, which has geopolitical, geostrategic importance to us, yeah, we want to have Starlink be the pipe in.
	We can't have the Chinese doing that.
	There's something up with this.
	There's something up with it, but I'm not seeing it.
	That technology on Starlink is so screwy.
	Screwy? What do you mean, screwy?
	It's a screwy technology if you ever examine how those antennas work.
	Because it's a moving target.
	It's constantly moving.
	There is no fixed satellite.
	It's not like a satellite, you know, any sort of geostationary satellite that sits there and you just go back and forth, even though you can't do a fixed satellite at low orbit like that.
	It's moving. It's a moving target.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	It's a crazy idea that anyone can even pull this off.
	And the fact that it works is a miracle, it seems to me.
	Yeah, it seems like a perfect something that Elon Musk must develop.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	But the Chinese, I don't know if they could do that.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Well, all I know is that...
	There was a huge fracas at the beginning or a couple months into the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, and Elon Musk apparently didn't turn on, or it was turned...
	We don't know who turns on or who turns off.
	So when you have militaries or paramilitaries or terrorists, anything that we might happen to control, you know, we want to make sure that they can use the internet and encrypt it or not, whatever.
	They have this communication system which kicks...
	Everything else is asked compared to these sat phones and the 9600 baud communication you get.
	This is an amazing new thing.
	And we can't have China up there taking over our business or, even worse, knocking some of these satellites out.
	Who knows? Who knows what you can do?
	Here's another 45 seconds.
	I would not be surprised if part of what's happening right now with With taking out Starlink is an attempt to do either a favor, directly or indirectly, for their new Chinese partners or to supplant Starlink altogether with this new Chinese competitor who is looking to get market reach and capturing You know,
	the 10th largest economy in the world would be incredible as a beachhead, not just in Brazil, but also in all of South America.
	But this also begs very strange questions about why it is the U.S. State Department so vociferously backed Lula when Lula so vociferously backs China.
	So there's a lot of things at play here, and somehow Elon is a part of this.
	Yeah, there's a lot of things at play if any of this is true.
	Correct. I have no idea if the Chinese system is real or not.
	Well, not only that, but how much did the State Department back Lula and how much did the State Department want China to go into Brazil?
	That doesn't make any sense at all.
	He's done a lot of deconstruction of that.
	I mean, he has done a lot on that.
	I mean, you know, Mike Benz was in the State Department.
	I think his problem is he does stuff like this, where he said, oh, it's like this, and oh, but you can go look at my ex post, and you can watch for an hour and a half, and you'll understand exactly what they did, which is his problem.
	It's very hard to just kind of distill it down.
	But my overarching point is Elon is important because he is the public face of our rockets, the Starlink, which is just a military system.
	And it's important when you connect people.
	Connection is protection. When you connect people, that brings economic prosperity.
	It's undeniable.
	And the more bandwidth, the better.
	So Trump, you know, coming up with this, oh, I'll have him the Secretary of Cost Cutting.
	Okay. Well, that'll be the day.
	Can you see that? Yeah, well, that, yeah.
	We've only heard those promises since everyone's lifetime.
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	So anyway. I mean, this began with Hoover.
	What did Hoover say?
	Same thing. Oh, we're going to shrink government.
	It's been growing ever since.
	Yeah. Elon can come in and do it today.
	He's going to stop the war in Ukraine in a day.
	Yeah, vote for me.
	This is what I mean.
	Everyone's going crazy.
	And then, you know, we'll see.
	Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's going to determine the winner of this election.
	Everyone knows it. That seems unlikely.
	Most people have already pretty much made up their minds of what they're going to do, as far as I can tell.
	Well, except for the black men, the big, beautiful black men.
	They've now finally come out.
	If they actually go and vote, that'll make a difference.
	This is what Moe has been saying for as long as I've known him.
	Yeah. Yeah, that's one of his basic theses.
	Yeah. Let's listen to this little NPR report on voter fraud by government.
	Okay. The Justice Department is suing the state of Virginia over a program to remove voters from its election polls in the lead-up to this November's elections if DMV records don't indicate U.S. citizenship.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	He says his sister and his mom live in California?
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	And his sister and his mom live in California, and neither of them got their ballot in the mail.
	And he says, that's the first time it's ever happened.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	There's something this, I mean, obviously, my reply to him was, yes, everybody's cheating this time around.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Hello? Oh, I did it.
	Hello? Hello.
	You did it. Yes, you did.
	I can't help. I can't help.
	Everyone's cheating. You used to be so good at stopping yourself.
	I'm slipping. And you've lost it.
	I've lost my opinion.
	I can't do it. I keep saying the W word from time to time as well.
	It's so prevalent.
	So prevalent everywhere.
	They overdid it. They had a dream about that.
	You had a dream about the W word?
	Yeah. What happened?
	Yeah, we were having this competition, the two of us, and I had stopped saying it, and you couldn't stop saying it.
	It was a strange dream.
	I remember I was working as an inspector for Trailmobile, and some guy said...
	Wait a minute, wait a minute. Trailmobile?
	Yeah, Trailmobile. This is a new story.
	I don't know anything about...
	No, I think it's been brought up before.
	What is Trailmobile?
	Trailmobile used to make trailers and cargo containers for Mattson and, you know, I worked on the cargo container line.
	For trains or for trucks?
	For ships. Oh, ships.
	Okay. You know, those containers that they put on the back of a truck.
	Right. Yeah. Yeah, this is the early days of it.
	This is when it first began, when containerized shipping first began.
	They had a whole line there making these things.
	And this guy says to me, you know, he says, hey, you know, I started dreaming about the job.
	He says, now I've got to quit.
	I said, why? He says, when you start dreaming about a job, you've got to quit.
	There's just some rule. This is a bad omen.
	You have four more years.
	I didn't feel good about it.
	You have four more years.
	You can't quit now. There's no quitting in podcasting.
	You can't do that.
	There's no quitting in baseball.
	There's no crying in baseball.
	I can confidently say I don't think I've ever had a dream that you were in.
	Well, good. Yeah, yeah.
	You want to get lost in one of your dreams?
	But somehow you suck me into yours.
	Yeah, well, it was just to humiliate you, I think, because you kept saying that word, that W word.
	Okay, okay. And your old men will have dreams.
	Speaking of containers, we're going to Chicago.
	One by one, people made their way up the tracks to raid this freight train parked at an overpass off Cicero and Lake.
	In all my years of living on the west side, I've never seen an actual freight train parked over a viadot where people are actually going into it.
	Yet CBS Skywatch captured just that Friday, watches folks grab boxes of TVs from the train cars and easily load them on top of vehicles waiting.
	People were just kind of standing there in disbelief and awe, like, oh wow, I can't believe this happened.
	Princess Shaw watched all of this unfold from her car.
	She snapped these images and immediately called 911.
	Gave 911 a call.
	I'm talking to dispatch, and they're like, oh, yeah, you're not the only call that's been made.
	We've had several calls waiting for a car to get dispatched there.
	Police sources say CPD had to wait over an hour for Union Pacific officers to respond and secure the tracks, leaving ample time for more and more people to loot the train cars.
	And they were just opening it up like it was Christmas.
	Take a look at this video.
	It shows the thieves holstering a TV from the tracks directly in front of a Chicago police cruiser.
	Despite lights and sirens on, these guys kept on with their illegal mission.
	It's not clear if officers were in the vehicle at the time, but Radio Dispatch reveals cops were not arresting when first on scene.
	They've already shown That they're not equipped or ready for what they did today.
	So if copycats come, they're not ready.
	If it took them an hour...
	We captured more people a few blocks away, scaling the walls, trying to get to other trailers, even after officers arrived.
	Nothing but empty boxes.
	Nothing but just scattered everything, everywhere.
	The empty TV boxes littered Cicero Avenue, leaving many to wonder how they were able to pull this off so easily.
	How did they know where the TVs were?
	It's not like the freight trains are labeled.
	So it just leaves you to...
	There's a lot of questions here that are left unanswered.
	This is an odd throwback to the days of Jesse James and the great train robberies.
	Wasn't there a similar story that we had on this show like about seven years ago?
	In California it was happening.
	It was during COVID. I thought it was in Chicago before COVID. I thought it was Chicago.
	I thought it was California.
	But they were just looting some park...
	Parked vehicles. Not vehicles, but trucks.
	Oh, trucks.
	Cargo containers. Vaguely.
	It's a very strange story.
	Well, when you see the video, it's even crazier.
	I mean, there must be a hundred people.
	And the cops are just sitting there like, whatever.
	You know, this is train robbery.
	You can't have this.
	It's just strange.
	It's Kamala's fault. Just blame it on Kamala.
	No, Biden. That's what everybody seems to do.
	Blame it on Kamala. Alright, I'm leaving a gap open for you.
	I got some stuff.
	Let's start. I hate to do it, but I'm going to pull Jesse Waters out of the bin.
	Out of the bin. Okay, as long as you say he's coming out of the bin, I'm okay with it.
	He's coming out of the bin. There's a couple of good deconstruction.
	He did something on the show when he talked about Kamala's...
	The appearance on 60 Minutes, and he has...
	I thought they brought some factoids out here.
	This is the 60 Minutes deconstruction that was on Jesse Waters, and he starts off by playing a clip of her being grilled about something, and then her comment, and they did a follow-up.
	His producers did a follow-up that nobody else has done.
	And if you think she was unprepared for the view, watch her on 60 Minutes.
	The first bill we proposed to Congress was to fix our broken immigration system.
	Knowing that if you want to actually fix it, we need Congress to act.
	It was not taken up.
	Arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump.
	Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies?
	It's a long-standing problem.
	And solutions are at hand.
	And from day one, literally, we have been offering solutions.
	What I was asking was, was it a mistake to kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place?
	The policies that we have been proposing are about fixing a problem, not promoting a problem.
	Okay? But the numbers did quadruple.
	She can't even answer the question because she never tried to fix the border until it was an election year.
	She claims she sent an immigration bill to Congress on day one.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	You have to call them undocumented.
	Newcomers. Nancy and Chuck controlled the House and the Senate back then.
	No wonder they didn't take it up.
	It was political suicide.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Yeah, Waters has been doing a lot of interesting things in the past couple of months, which is, you know, I kind of miss the humor.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	He used to be a little more goofy.
	Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I agree.
	He's trying to do good work.
	Stop that. Well, it's not him anyway.
	This is all behind it.
	This is the producers and executive producers.
	These guys have really run the show, and he just happens to be the front man.
	Now, I've got two more clips from him, and this is when he had Kevin McCarthy on the show, and this really kind of...
	Kevin McCarthy, there's two clips here, and one of them is...
	He's kind of two-faced.
	Kevin McCarthy has been stumping around, and I'm irked by the fact that the first time I heard him do, he was on a podcast.
	I didn't record it.
	But after I heard this on Waters, I kind of kicked myself, because I have to tell you what he said on the podcast.
	He went on about how he got kicked out of his speakership.
	And he blamed the whole thing on Matt Gaetz.
	Oh, that's right.
	I heard that. And he even was talking about Matt Gaetz's underage hookers or whatever.
	Yeah. Yeah. It was a dynamite podcast.
	It was a great podcast.
	The guy's going on and on, and he's just getting it out of him.
	And McCarthy, he expresses the following.
	He says, what happened was Matt Gaetz was in trouble.
	One of the committees was investigating him because of all these underage girls.
	And Gaetz comes up to him and says, hey, Kevin, you're the Speaker of the House.
	Can you help me out? Right.
	And instead of McCarthy shining him on, instead of him saying, yeah, sure, oh yeah, I'll help you out.
	He didn't do that. He says, no, I can't help you out.
	I can't do anything. And so it pissed off Gates.
	And so Gates got together with Mace, the female, Nancy Mace, I guess is her name.
	Yes. And they managed to kick him out because of some rule.
	And he says it's all because of this, he's not helping him on this investigation.
	And then the podcaster says to him, well, so you speak to him anymore?
	Are you friends anymore?
	Because I know everyone gets together after stuff like this happens.
	And then McCarthy says, no, I'm not talking to a pedophile.
	Whoa! Whoa!
	That's slanderous.
	Libelous. Not if it's not necessarily.
	Unless it's true. You can say the truth.
	So here he is on Jesse Waters and the first clip is him talking about Kamala never showing up to meetings when he was in Congress.
	He says they have a They'd have a meeting, Kamala would show up when she felt like, and I thought this was kind of revealing, but then the second clip where he comes back again with his complaining.
	We're going to play the first one though, right?
	Yeah, play the first clip and then I'll do the second clip.
	This was remarkable. You would see respect when someone would hold the meeting up for.
	No. Joe Biden never waited for her.
	He'd start the meeting even if she wasn't.
	So then she'd show up and you'd wonder, does she know what's going on?
	And only now and then she would interject.
	But it was kind of like the person interjecting, and you were 30 minutes late on that question.
	We already handled that section.
	So she was late to these meetings.
	She wasn't prepared. Wasn't prepared.
	Was that her fault because she said she had staff problems?
	I mean, isn't it your responsibility to prepare yourself at a certain point?
	You know what your meetings are.
	You know where you're going to go the next day.
	She's got all the staff in the world that she needs, but no one will stay with her.
	92% have left.
	This backs up your theory that she doesn't want to be president because she's lazy.
	Yes. She doesn't like it.
	She doesn't like it. Yeah.
	Yeah, she'd just as soon not get the win.
	She'd just benefit and then get out.
	So here he goes back into this that she can't keep her staff.
	And I'll listen carefully to what he says as a kind of a little aside that it's chicken shit.
	But it's part of this overall, I'm still irked about the fact that I got kicked out of the speakership.
	She's got all the staff in the world that she needs, but no one will stay with her.
	92% have left.
	Everybody knows whether you're a Republican or a Democrat.
	It happens on both sides. Nancy Mace on the Republican side, nobody will work for her.
	And there's a reason why. Nobody will work for Kamala Harris, who's the Vice President of the United States.
	Hmm. Why will no one work for Nancy Mace?
	He says, brings it right out, because she's one of the ones that got him ousted.
	He says, Nancy Mace is a good example on the Republican side.
	Nobody will work for her.
	That's odd. Well, maybe it's true.
	I don't know. Hmm. Nancy Mace, you know, you've seen her before.
	She seemed reasonable.
	I don't know. But McCarthy's out for blood.
	But he does it so solidly because he's got a smile on his face and just everything's matter of fact.
	Yeah. What's he doing?
	What is he doing? Is he still doing something?
	I think he's trying to get a job in the Trump administration.
	Hmm. Because all he does is he's stomping for Trump.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hmm.
	What's this Band C stuff?
	You know, my ham funny bone got tickled when I saw this weather and Band C. Yeah, play Band C Weather and Info PBS. Include Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Republican from Georgia, who claimed the federal government can control the weather.
	You know, Charlie Wurzel of The Atlantic has a great piece where he says this isn't just a clip.
	Now, this is about...
	Helene. Milton.
	It's about the weather.
	Nancy, this is PBS. You played on the last show.
	I was going to send you a note about these clips and say, can you bring up some of those clips, at least the key clip that you played?
	Because what you did, you...
	We talked about this on the last show.
	This is all new. We talked about it on the last show about controlling the weather.
	And you played a series of clips.
	You might be able to dig one or two of the important ones up.
	Where it's our government who has made the claim that they can control the weather.
	And you had some clips from, I think, the Johnson administration or wherever they were from that just kind of pounded this point home.
	But yet we listened to this PBS report where this guy...
	Would you like to hear the Johnson clip?
	Yeah, this is from Lyndon Johnson back in the day.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	It's a minute and a half. If you want to hear it, you don't have to.
	That's fine. Well, maybe you can decide after we play these clips.
	So I want to play these clips, these two clips about the weather.
	And I forgot why I call them Bansy.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	I think there's some other... I forgot.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Otherwise I would have sent you this note.
	But... They have gone nuts about this because of Marjorie Taylor Greene just offhandedly saying, hey, yeah, this is going on, which you proved in the last show, but oh, no, no, this is total denial now.
	This is bold. She's nuts.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Republican from Georgia, who claimed the federal government can control the weather...
	You know, Charlie Wurzel of The Atlantic has a great piece where he says, this isn't just a misinformation crisis.
	It's something darker.
	It's a cultural assault on institutions and individuals that operate in reality.
	How do you see this moment that we're living in?
	Well, one, let's just call it what it is.
	I'll call it what it is. It's not just misinformation.
	Hold on a second. Stop.
	BNC is Brooks and Capehart.
	These are the two. That's funny.
	I look at your clip list and it says band C. It says capital B, A, N, D, and then capital C. Part of my codes.
	Well, your code.
	I'm like, C band?
	I wonder what's going on with C band.
	This could be some cool ham clip.
	No. No, it's Brooks and Capehart.
	I got punished. Yes, we're reading into things.
	Brooks and Capehart, I have a bunch of their clips.
	I'll play these and then it gets a couple more.
	They go off the deep end and this is like, oh, this is lies.
	But, you know, like I said, you already showed us that this is all coming from, you know, the Democrats that we're living in.
	Well, one, let's just call it what it is.
	I'll call it what it is. It's not just misinformation and disinformation.
	It's lies. Lies that are putting people's lives at risk, that is tearing apart communities, people who are in danger, who are at the most stressful point in their lives, trying to outrun A hurricane and being told that your government is not where you pay taxes.
	Your government's not coming to help you.
	Your government is giving money away to other people.
	All lies. And what makes this even more reprehensible is that Republicans who know better are not speaking out Enforce and en masse to say, this is not right, this is wrong.
	President Trump, please stop doing what you're doing.
	I give the governors of Georgia and Florida, the Republican governors of Georgia and Florida, credit for saying that the Biden administration has been very helpful pushing back against the misinformation.
	But I want Republicans to be more direct.
	In saying who's feeding the disinformation and the lies and to hold that person accountable.
	Hold on a second.
	The governors of Georgia and Florida, DeSantis and the other guy, Kemp I guess, they weren't pushing back on disinformation.
	They said they were just cooperating with Biden.
	When were they pushing back on disinformation?
	I give them credit for pushing back on disinformation.
	What's he talking about?
	I don't know, but I need to add one other thing to the weather modification that they are capable of doing.
	And we've discussed this as far back as episode, I think, 200.
	Maybe even earlier than that.
	And this was the testimony in 1997 by Secretary of Defense William Cohen.
	And it's on the Defense Department's website.
	And I'm just going to, so the question was, let me ask you specifically about last week's scare here in Washington, what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with benign breath, I guess some terrorist threat.
	And then he says, there's a whole bunch of stuff, a bunch of precursor.
	The same thing is true about, so this is the Secretary of Defense in 1997.
	The same thing is true about just the false scare of threat using some kinds of chemical weapon or a biological one.
	There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least.
	Avalon Toffler has written about this in terms of some scientists.
	Alvin Toffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be specific so they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races.
	Sound familiar? And others are designing sorts of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops.
	Others are engaging even in an ecotype of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
	So, come on.
	I mean, it's very valid to say they have this capability.
	They have certainly talked about it.
	Yeah, so Marjorie Taylor Greene isn't nuts.
	She just does her research.
	She's a little out there. She's a little kooky.
	Okay, she is nuts.
	Or not. But besides the point, you can't condemn her for this comment because we have it backed up.
	And it's been backed up by our own government.
	I mean, are you kidding me?
	This Capehart guy is full of it.
	And he condemns everybody and calls lies, lies, lies.
	Let's play part two.
	Is there any way back...
	From this, when we have this ecosystem that exists where people actually believe that the federal government can control the weather, something as nonsensical as that.
	Seriously, I mean, it's an indictment of our time.
	You know, each party has to police their own side, and Republicans have failed at that big time since 2015.
	I think the larger question for me is, the rise of Donald Trump shows it's an advantage to have no conscience.
	No what? What do you say at the end?
	No conscience? It's an advantage to have no conscience.
	So Donald Trump is just a boob.
	What he's suggesting is a sociopath.
	A boob. Yes.
	No, no conscience is like a psychopath.
	Well, that's what he suggested.
	That's basically what he said.
	I'm glad I brought that transcript back because I had long since forgotten that they were talking about pathogens that could target specific DNA. Hello!
	I did it again. Hello!
	I'm going to keep doing it now. Hello!
	I don't know what you can do about it.
	You're stuck with it. This is your earmark.
	That's right. Adam Curry, the hello guy.
	I'm going to have stickers, posters, I'm going to have that made.
	So while we're on the topic of Donald Trump being a horrible man with no conscience, Lawrence O'Donnell could not resist and brought back an old classic.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	None? None? He has no humanity!
	Not a shred of humanity.
	To have none. Not a shred of humanity.
	Donald Trump said today that he believes that immigrants to this country are genetically inferior human beings.
	There you go. That is exactly what Adolf Hitler thought.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Well, he's going to... Oh, Lawrence brought receipts, man.
	He didn't say that exactly, of course.
	No, no. Wait for it.
	It's coming. It's coming.
	But I just have to stop.
	And he's bringing back the Hitler meme.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	And he's... Oh yeah, the Hitler meme.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	So Trump did not say this.
	Trump said something else.
	Well wait, he just said he said it.
	No. Is this guy a liar?
	Yeah. He believes that immigrants to this country are genetically inferior human beings.
	That is exactly... Exactly what Adolf Hitler said.
	Immigrants, by the way. All immigrants.
	Immigrants everywhere. Legal immigrants.
	Illegal immigrants. Newcomers.
	Immigrants. Just immigrants.
	Tony with the deli on the corner.
	He's an immigrant. Genetically inferior.
	Thought and said. Donald Trump doesn't seem to remember that he is a descendant of immigrants to this country, including his mother, who was an immigrant.
	He misses a big opportunity here to say that his father also comes from immigrants, and he's German, so maybe there's some Adolf blood in him.
	He missed that. Missed that, Lawrence.
	You know what, Doncher, brought this call back up.
	I'm surprised that the drum thing hasn't showed up again.
	Coming. I'm sure it's coming.
	Let's continue. Two of the mothers of Donald Trump's children are immigrants.
	Donald Trump... Yeah, but they're hot, okay?
	Hot immigrants is not the same.
	Look at the jeans. Look at the jeans.
	They look fine. Said today, quote, we've got a lot of bad jeans in our country right now.
	There it is. That's the whole deduction, the whole deconstruction is from that quote.
	We've got a lot of bad jeans.
	Hey, he could have meant Levi's.
	That's what I was thinking. He's talking about Levi's.
	Levi's. They don't support him.
	What was the jeans?
	They're baggy. What was the jeans?
	Hey, man, the inner city got some bad jeans going on.
	What was the... What was the famous one with the V on the back?
	Was it... Vanderbilt.
	Vanderbilt. And also, wasn't it Sergio Valenti or something?
	Oh, yeah. There's a bunch of these gene guys.
	A lot of genes. And again, that is almost word for word what Adolf Hitler was saying in the 1930s before he started World War II and before he started...
	Oh, brother. For one thing, he didn't speak English, so how could it be word for word?
	And before he started an organized extermination program of the Jewish people, in which Adolf Hitler's ambition was to execute every living Jewish person he could find anywhere in Europe.
	Because, among other things, he believed the bad genes theory...
	That Donald Trump believes and spews in his poisonous madness and relentless stupidity.
	Poisonous madness, relentless, oh no!
	Madness and relentless stupidity.
	At 78 years old, we don't know how much longer the world will have to endure Donald Trump's Hitlerian rant.
	Hitlerian! We should expect that for every year Donald Trump has left, he is going to get...
	Worse. It's only going to get worse.
	It's only downhill from here.
	Lawrence told you so.
	Wow. Oh, God. This guy is disgusting.
	Oh, he's great. He's great.
	I'm going to go back to Brooks and Cape part.
	Oh, yes. I'm sorry. I want to play.
	This is the Brooks and Cape one.
	And this has got a little gotcha in here.
	And I want... This is, again, we have our guy, the black host...
	Yes. Who just drops a little bomb in here, never explains it.
	And this is very common on this PBS. PBS NewsHour has deteriorated to such an extreme.
	It's an embarrassment to journalism.
	Former President Barack Obama hits the campaign trail for Kamala Harris as the race for the White House enters its final weeks, and Donald Trump unleashes a torrent of false statements and distortions about the federal response to Hurricanes Milton and Pauline.
	Let's turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart, that's New York Times columnist David Brooks, and Jonathan Capehart, associate editor for The Washington Post.
	This is where in my house...
	This is where we switch the channel.
	Wait, wait. This is where we switch the channel.
	I'm just saying. Wait, where's the torrent of falsehoods and falsehoods?
	What specifically is he talking about?
	He never says. It's a torrent.
	It's a tidal wave. It's a tsunami.
	It's a tsunami of lies.
	And Jonathan Capehart, Associate Editor for the Washington Post.
	Great to see you both. Wobble, wobble.
	So the polls show a race that is as tight as ever 25 days out from Election Day, and Democrats are doing what Democrats do best.
	They are worrying, they are fretting that Kamala Harris' early momentum might have stalled.
	I want to start with your assessments of the race.
	David, you first.
	Has there been a vibe shift?
	Oh, a vibe shift!
	Oh. Oh. Well, I'm still waiting for the torrent of lies.
	What were they? I'm already past it.
	I'm past it already. You know, it's bad genes.
	Well, you get past stuff faster than I do.
	Bad genes. Well, you're a PBS guy from old school.
	You know, you used to love PBS. You probably depended on them and thought they were, hey, believe me.
	Uncle Don and Aunt Meg, every night, they would watch the PBS NewsHour.
	They did not watch NBC, ABC, CBS. The spooks of this world, they watch PBS NewsHour.
	That's a little inside info into the world of spookage.
	Yeah? Well, that doesn't surprise me.
	And they used to all read Newsweek.
	I don't think they read Newsweek anymore.
	No, Newsweek is done.
	It's not one by... Salesforce guy.
	For Christmas, I get a Newsweek subscription from Don and Meg.
	There's coded messages in there, obviously.
	Yeah, and it did not work.
	Because I was more interested in Boy's Life.
	I don't know why. What?
	Boy's Life, the magazine, Boy's Life.
	You don't know about Boy's Life?
	Isn't that a Boy Scout journal?
	Yeah, I was way into Boy Scouts and camping.
	Were you into Boy Scouts?
	I was a Sea Scout in Holland, actually.
	Oh, a Sea Scout?
	Mm-hmm. Oh, they used to have that in the United States.
	I don't remember what happened to the Sea Scouts.
	Yeah, you did knots.
	Lots of knots. You learned how to sail.
	I learned how to sail. I can sail.
	I can do lots of knots.
	Yes. Knots!
	You can do a lot of knots.
	We're learning more and more today.
	I can do a slip knot in one second.
	There's a special technique.
	That's great. So where were we on these three clips?
	Word number two. Okay, go.
	Has there been a vibe shift?
	Yeah. I mean, her momentum has stalled.
	She was going, going up.
	Then she seemed to plateau.
	And I would say, if you look at the polling movement in the last week, Trump is doing slightly better, and I should emphasize slightly.
	And so he's doing a lot better in the Sunbelt swing states, in the industrial Midwest.
	He's doing slightly better, but again, very slight.
	And so you'd have to think, you know, when I look at the...
	The results right now, where we are, and of course, it could all change.
	I do think the decision not to pick Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania, we could look back on that as a major mistake.
	And second, I think she made a mistake this week by not breaking with Joe Biden on a bunch of major issues.
	She was asked twice on two different shows, is anything really different?
	And she basically said no.
	And this is a country where, what, 28% think the country's on the wrong track.
	Joe Biden has like a 41% approval.
	It seems to me, elementary act of politics, I'm my own person.
	This is how I would change.
	Yeah, I think we both said that's where she lost the election, right there on the view.
	Well, you said it first, and I will give you credit.
	You said it immediately that this is the election.
	It's right there on the view.
	But you see what I do? I bring you into it, and I say we.
	No, you do. I thought that was nice of you.
	You kicked it right back.
	Indian giver. But I'll push it the other way and say you nailed it right away.
	Indian giver. I give it to you.
	I mean, I have...
	I thought about it, but I didn't make it determining at the level that you did.
	So you just have to take credit for that.
	Yeah, okay, I'll take it. And I think you're right.
	I think you're dead right. I think that's the stupidest thing she could say.
	She was given a second opportunity and did the same thing.
	She just couldn't do it.
	What was the second opportunity?
	Oh, she was asked the same question by Colbert.
	Ah, yes, yes, yes.
	And she did it, but she didn't have this goofy look on her face, did she?
	Yeah, that's the look she has.
	That's her look. She's got a goofy look.
	Oh, hmm. Yeah, no, she dropped the ball twice, just what Brooks said.
	Now, you know, Capehart, of course...
	This is the last of these clips.
	Thank God. Yes.
	He is the, oh, you know, Kamala's the greatest thing since sliced bread and, you know, black males should all vote for her.
	And everything you said is wrong because if it's disparaging about Kamala, she's the greatest.
	And so he defends her.
	Jonathan, how do you see it?
	The race today is the race as it was when she became the top of the ticket, as it was the night of the dreadful debate in June 27th, as it was in the months before that.
	It's close. It's always going to be close.
	It was always going to be close.
	And the fact that Democrats are panicking, I'm not shocked by it.
	I'm annoyed by it because, you know, you can do all the panicking you want, but it's going to come true if folks don't get out and vote.
	And I don't know if I agree with there's been a vibe shift and, you know, she's plateaued and all this other stuff.
	I think that what's happening is reality is setting in.
	It's going to be close.
	And this idea that she made a mistake in not picking Governor Shapiro, I just have to disagree with that strenuously.
	Strenuously! She picked Governor Walz.
	I think Governor Walz is a terrific candidate.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	in a manner that is more comfortable than when she's sitting before 60 Minutes.
	Yeah, so now they're in a circular jerk-a-thon.
	Oops, sorry about that. Because if you ask anybody, what do you think of the Kamala interview?
	Do they say, oh, you mean 60 Minutes?
	No. Do they say, oh, you mean on Colbert's show, who has, I think, like 1.2 million viewers?
	No. Do you know what they all say?
	Oh, you mean on Caller Daddy?
	These guys have no idea how over they are.
	Caller. Yeah, that's all people are talking about is the cold caller debt.
	And they probably didn't even view it.
	They just think, oh, call her daddy.
	Oh, she must be talking about her specialty.
	Well, you're going to bring that up.
	I do have one screwball clip.
	This is from the Gutfeld show.
	And this is the...
	John's evening viewing.
	We go from PBS NewsHour to the...
	There's no NTD. I don't know what happens.
	And then we go to Gutfeld.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	Makes sense.
	They're both known for sucking.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Yeah, so I saw that.
	I'm sorry. No, it's okay.
	I saw the campaign, and it's very tired because it's all about Project 2025.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Like, if Donald Trump is elected, Project 2025 will outlaw porn.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Oh, is that... Oh, yeah.
	I was unaware of the actual campaign.
	Yeah. I didn't even clip it.
	It was so dumb. I saw it last week.
	Okay, fine.
	That's what it's about.
	It's a protection mode ad because they think this Project 2025 thing.
	Somebody pointed out that the Heritage Foundation has been doing this stuff since the 80s or 90s.
	That's what they do. Yeah, and all of a sudden it's been turned into a campaign point of information.
	I saw Claiborne on CNN. Claiborne.
	Claiborne, yeah. He's the kingmaker.
	He's the kingmaker. You know, you get Claiborne.
	He made Joe the candidate.
	Claiborne has a lot of power.
	He comes on... Whatever Dana...
	What's her face?
	Horse face on CNN. Dana Bash, I guess.
	Sorry, Dana. Donna.
	Donna. Donna.
	Hey, Dana. And she says, well, are you worried?
	He says, I am worried.
	But people need to know that if you elect Donald Trump...
	It's going to be Jim Crow 2.0 with Project 2025.
	Like, holy crap, that's all they have.
	That's all. They have nothing.
	They have nothing left.
	Nothing. They have nothing to say.
	And of course, it's not a close race because America doesn't elect presidents like Kamala Harris.
	It's just not going to happen. Not because she's a woman.
	Not because she's black.
	It's just she doesn't have the profile.
	Doesn't have the profile.
	Trump is a little old to have the profile, but, you know, you get shot in the air, you do the fight, fight, fight.
	That's the profile of America.
	And then, if you want to talk some gaffes, let's just run through a quick couple of camel of gaffes.
	This is the first one.
	And I also want to thank your father, Vice President Dick Cheney, for his support.
	Okay. And what he has done to serve our country.
	Every endorsement matters, and this endorsement matters a great deal, Liz, and it carries a special significance.
	What he has done for our country, responsible for the death of American servicemen and women in a needless war for oil and nonsense.
	That's who you're thanking?
	Madam Vice President?
	And then this was kind of funny.
	This was... Oh wait.
	No, wait. No, this is...
	Before I get to the funny. This is the latest...
	Okay, we've got him now.
	Now we've got him.
	I've got a plan. We had a meeting.
	Alright, time to do this, Madam Vice President.
	Vice President Kamala Harris is in excellent health.
	That's according to a letter by her White House doctor.
	She possesses the physical and mental resiliency required to successfully execute the duties of the presidency.
	Which, looking at Joe Biden, isn't much.
	Despite no law compelling candidates to do so, Harris took aim at former President Donald Trump for not providing his own health history.
	Today I release my medical records as has, I believe, every candidate for President of the United States except Donald Trump in this election cycle.
	And it's just a further example of his lack of transparency.
	There is very little known about Trump's health.
	This includes after an attempted assassination in July in which a bullet grazed his ear.
	His team has insisted the 78-year-old is fit for the job without providing further medical information.
	You can hear all...
	You can just see the memos.
	It's time to attack Trump on his age.
	He's demented. He's demented.
	And Trump, of course...
	The demented part kills me. And Trump falls forward.
	He's like, no, no, it's called the weave.
	People think I'm that...
	Oh, yes. It's called the weave.
	Yeah, I heard that, too.
	It's called the weave. I'm genius at the weave.
	I'm great at the weave. The weave.
	He did the... What's it?
	The flagrant podcast...
	With that comedian with the mustache.
	I forget his name. It's not a podcast I watch, but he was really personable, really good, very funny, endearing at times.
	He talked about his kids and about being a father.
	Of course, you don't see that because it's on a podcast.
	All we get is, I got the weave!
	The weave! And then the last one for...
	You know that podcast he was on with those four guys for comics?
	That's the one, yeah. With the weave.
	That's where he came up with the weave.
	Oh, you see, he mentioned the weave before, but he went into detail on the weave.
	He... That was...
	I don't have a clip of it, but I was reading about how one of the news organizations said that, oh, Trump tried to explain how he's scatterbrained, and they all laughed at him.
	No, no, no, no.
	I know, that's what I mean. It's just like, what, how are you interpreting this, any of this, that these people are terrible.
	They're terrible. I have a clip, actually, from that, and he said something which I was, I found questionable.
	She has an add-on that I'm against, yeah.
	She knows it's untrue.
	She has an add-on that bloodbath, bloodbath means like blood, that's not what I was talking about.
	The automobile industry.
	It's going to be a bloodbath in the automobile.
	We're going to lose all our business.
	That's what it's referring to.
	When they do things, and they do a lot, but I always refer them back to the simplicity of McDonald's.
	She lied about McDonald's.
	She lied about many things.
	And she's a liar. There should be some kind of a rule.
	When they know it's a lie, you can't do a commercial on it.
	Okay. It sounds like censorship to me.
	This would be some kind of a rule about it.
	Now we're going to have to vet every single ad.
	Yeah, you're right. I think that was a blunder.
	I think that to me was blunderish, yes, for sure.
	Yeah, because it's just falling in line with the other side.
	So then Madam Vice President is on a Zoom call with FEMA... And she's sitting at her desk.
	Oh, yeah, this is a good one.
	I'm surprised you clipped it.
	Well, I did. I only clipped it because Sky News Australia, you know, the...
	That woman and her buddies, they're all just ridiculing everybody.
	Yeah. It's very funny stuff.
	Hey, Sky News Australia, you've got enough problems of your own, but okay, we'll take this one.
	Now, I don't think they're right, and I think the way it played on social media was incorrect, but it was funny.
	Yeah. Kamala Harris made a bizarre gaffe during an FEMA Hurricane Milton emergency update broadcast, which sent social media into a spin.
	The Vice President received a briefing from disaster relief authorities on preparations and weather forecasts for the hurricane.
	During the video briefing, Kamala Harris could be seen covering her mouth, appearing to relay a message to someone else through a microphone and earpiece.
	The VP mumbled, it's a live broadcast behind her hands.
	It's a flood. We really got to watch those areas and those communities, so it takes quite a while for that water to drain.
	Thank you very much.
	She then immediately took her hands away from her mouth and asked a question.
	Hey, Ken, I have a question for you.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	If you really look at the video, which I did on my 4K screen, she's looking off to the side of the camera and someone's motioning to her or maybe even holding up a sign for all I know.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	I'm not into the, oh, she had a hidden earpiece.
	I just, I mean, get over yourselves, Twitter.
	Get over yourselves on the hidden earpiece thing.
	No, she's just that dumb.
	And they slide notes to you anyway.
	I mean, you get his aide there and they slide your notes.
	Of course. They do it when you can actually see them.
	Yes. But this was the week where she also was doing a town hall with a teleprompter.
	You know, last week the teleprompter went out and she had a brain freeze.
	That's the clip that's kind of amusing.
	I don't have it. I don't have it.
	Yeah, well, I didn't... Do you have it?
	No, I don't have it.
	I don't have it either, but I can just say what it was.
	She says, we have 32 days until the election, and then the teleprompter goes out, and then she looks around and goes, 32, we got 32 days, 32 days.
	Two or three times, she's like an idiot.
	We couldn't even, I mean, she can't even break the...
	Third, fourth wall, whatever you call it, and say, hey, teleprompter went out, so I don't really have anything else to say right now.
	But it is amazing.
	I mean, you do a lot of things when a teleprompter goes out.
	I remember when I was on Tech TV... Here we go.
	Okay. When you do this, I grab my coffee, I spin the stool, I cross my legs, and all right, here we go.
	Are these stories that long? No, no, no, no.
	Hey, people come for the media deconstruction.
	It is a fact they stay for John's story time.
	Yeah, there's many stories.
	So I'm on tech TV, and this is the first time, because I was a prompter jockey on that show, because I had different writers that wrote my copy, but once Jennifer Lavin, my producer, started writing my copy, she wrote in my voice, and it was perfect.
	It was better than anything I could ad-lib.
	That's what you want. That's what you want.
	You want someone who can write for your prompter, and someone who can roll your prompter.
	Yes, you want a good person.
	This is usually a different person.
	Yeah. But you want somebody that rolls the prompter and they pay attention to what you're saying and then they roll the prompter.
	But when you get somebody who can write your copy, I mean, once in a while you hear about people saying, well, I write my own copy.
	I write my own prompter copy.
	Yeah, right. I'm always thinking, why?
	Are you an idiot?
	That's dumb. That is dumb.
	Because it's like a skill.
	It's a real skill to write prompter copy.
	It is. It is. And so you find somebody who can do it.
	So they write this prompter copy.
	And I got... When you're doing a live read, they give you the sheets with the prompter copy on it, the blue sheets usually, and then the prompter copy, and you read from the prompter.
	And you're supposed to do something.
	Now, I got pretty good at reading the prompter, but I never was good at doing the switchover because I've never had to do it.
	And so the prompter, once in four years, four years daily, boom, prompter goes out.
	Yeah. And it's live, and I'm going, oh, shit.
	And so I look down, and I'm not doing what you see these guys do, which is what you're supposed to do, is as you read from the prompt, you're flipping pages.
	You're flipping pages, yes. So you're at the point where you can just, now you go from the prompter and you start reading the copy that is written out that was the prompter copy.
	I didn't do that.
	I didn't have to, I wasn't on the right page.
	It was a complete choke.
	It was like, oh my, and it was just like, I'm like dropping, I'm just blowing it.
	It was terrible. It was the worst experience in my, all the TV I've ever done because I was not prepared for it.
	Because it never happened to me before, and it turns out a lot of times I think you get, until it happens, you think you know what you're doing, until something goes astray.
	And this is what happened with Kamala when her prompter went out.
	She didn't know what to do, and I felt kind of sorry for her because it happened to me.
	After that, a prompter like a year later went out again, but I had, because of that mishap, I had no problem going to the sheets.
	But it was the worst experience.
	It's just terrible.
	And it's bumbling around.
	Even when the lights went out one time, it was easier to deal with.
	I'm so old.
	And I've told this story before, but I'll do it again.
	At MTV, the way it worked is...
	Now, I didn't have a lot of prompter copy, but for shows like the Top 20 Video Countdown and we did the Week in Rock, it was scripted.
	And the way it works back in the day, this is when the green screen was blue screen.
	We've talked about that. It was chroma key blue before it was green.
	That's how old we are. This was a conveyor belt that had a camera pointed down on the conveyor belt, and that camera was the teleprompter camera.
	And so they would send me the scripts at night with a car service, because the fax machine would just be one long roll of fax that was completely unusable.
	This is before fax machines would cut the roll.
	It was the thermal paper. And so they put the sheets under it.
	And then they would, you know, with the controller, they would roll this copy, which was just printed out from the Wang.
	Is anybody getting the age here?
	The Wang, the word processor.
	The Wang, yeah. And they would roll it underneath, and the speed was variable.
	And we had two prompter people.
	One was John, and I don't know if he's alive anymore.
	And he was a challenged guy.
	But he was one of these autistic people that was so focused and he was so good.
	And sometimes there would be a stand-in for him, and I forget her name, if it was Michelle or, I don't know, she was known for other assets.
	She was like, everyone's like, hey, let's hang out and play foosball with Michelle.
	What was her name? But she couldn't do it.
	And it was just, oh no.
	Some people can't do it. She wouldn't keep the right pace and everything.
	No, that's just horrible. Anyway.
	Just to add on to that, I would also watch other people do their work, and Leo Laporte was the more interesting of the group.
	Because Leo, and this, I never did this.
	I did a little bit, but rarely.
	Leo would wander off the prompter.
	I can do that too. I can wander off the prompter and come back.
	But the prompter guy would go nuts because it's like, what am I doing?
	You know, they don't know what to do.
	No, good. No, John, the autist could do it.
	He got it. He would wait for me.
	Well, that's a rare bird because most people, when Leo would go off, he was yakking about something or other.
	It's not on the prompter.
	It's just going and going and going.
	Yeah. And this guy didn't know where to go forward or backwards or where was he?
	It was hilarious to watch.
	I sometimes think Leo did it on purpose.
	Maybe. I rarely did that.
	Before we take a break, I just wanted to salute our many producers of No Agenda Nation.
	They are everywhere. I want to talk about Helene and Milton later because I have some boots-on-the-ground reports regarding climate change and also regarding the climate haven that was Asheville.
	We just have, and this is part of the time, we'll talk about them, the time, talent, and treasure community.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Yeah, we got a lot of that. I also got a lot of notes on the x-rays moving the meteor.
	And very good ones from people who are...
	The last one, which you weren't copied on, just came in this morning, was...
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	This guy has all the formulas and he says it would take a million years to move this thing with these x-rays.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	You can't get enough x-rays.
	We have a lot of smart people.
	And I like the anonymous from Ireland.
	I sell QPCR instruments which were used to test for SARS-CoV-2.
	Oh, yeah, we have to read that note.
	Just listening to the latest podcast regarding Trump sending equipment to Putin.
	Back then, the exact same instruments Trump had access to were sold in Russia, whether our equipment or other brands.
	If Putin wanted one, he could have gotten one with no bother within Russia, so I call complete BS. Of course, since the war, most companies, including ours, have stopped doing business there.
	Some lovely Russian people who I'd met on many occasions are out of a job.
	So, Woodward's book is, of course, bullcrap.
	Saying, oh, Trump sent over equipment.
	No, you could just buy it.
	Don't say anything because they'll get mad at you, said Vlad.
	Exactly. So, a lot of people sent me this, and I love it when we have our men and women who...
	Who are in uniform, who serve America, the real people who serve America, overseas and at home.
	When they let everybody know, it's alright, we got you back.
	Hey, you crash in the ocean during a storm and you're floating on your plane.
	We're going to pick you up.
	I'm with the Coast Guard and I'm going to let you know that I'm a part of No Agenda Nation.
	Lieutenant Chad Paulson was involved in that rescue and he joins me now.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	Nothing's better than that.
	Yeah, in the morning. And it's funny, it just blows by people because, for one thing, it makes no sense.
	No, that's the best part.
	But it's like, well, maybe that's a greeting.
	I'm not sure. Now, the cool thing is when somebody says in the morning and the other person says in the morning.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Well, that's what you hear in aviation.
	You hear the pilot and then sometimes you'll hear the tower reply.
	Because this is what it is.
	The smartest people who make the world run listen to this podcast.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	That's just the fact.
	I don't know. And it's also because we don't insult them by...
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Why would we? Running ads and telling them that premium content is behind the firewall.
	Oh, premium content, that's my pet peeve.
	Instead, I'd like to say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the new screw!
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	Trolls listening in. What was the number again?
	2204. Uh, low.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	It's low by 200. All right.
	Well, we're glad to have you trolls here anyway.
	Thank you very much for listening at noagenda.stream or trollroom.io, which is great because the trolls get in there and just roll with it.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	But without those trolls, I would have never come up with Jordache genes.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	And there's some other insults that were in there, which is always fun.
	It's not distracting at all.
	You want to say something? Jordash.
	Jordash. Nothing becomes between me and my Jordashes.
	I think that was the tagline.
	Oh, yeah. Yeah. So the trolls can also listen on a modern podcast app, which, believe me, you're going to want to have it.
	The last show, people were so mad.
	About what? Apple hasn't updated.
	It's been three hours.
	But that's Apple.
	Yeah. That's the whole point.
	We use this PodPing technology, which is a true technology, which is part of Podcasting 2.0, and the modern apps, they update within 90 seconds.
	So when we publish, boom, you got it.
	You don't have to sit around. And it was the best commercial for the modern podcast apps.
	Thank you, Apple. People were like, you know, I've got to get off this thing, because you're behind the times.
	And in addition to that, you also do not get an alert on Apple or Spotify.
	Well, not on Spotify at all.
	Or on Amazon or any other app that you or YouTube.
	You don't get an alert when we go live.
	No. You get that on the Modern Podcast app.
	The one where you're actually subscribing to the podcast.
	So if you can't listen live, no problem.
	We'll alert you as soon as it's published.
	And that's usually within 30 minutes of finishing up the show.
	PodcastApps.com. We explained the whole point of time, talent, and treasure, and we do have some extra talented people known as the No Agenda artists who are busy during the live stream coming up with artwork that we can use for the album artwork on the show, which we've been doing way before even...
	It's been the standard forever.
	Apple finally caught up a few years back.
	But we've been doing this forever, and it's great because you can use it when we host the show and people promote the show, and it's interesting.
	And these artists are Dutch masters, so it's always fun to see what they come up with.
	And we want to thank...
	Now, thank you also to all of our artists.
	This was the multiple tornadoes with the cheesecake butt on the beach.
	Which you said, I like it.
	I said, okay. And I got several, I received several messages of people saying, best artwork all year.
	When you blow it up on Twitter or something...
	It's a good piece. It's gorgeous.
	It is. Now, Tom Stoffel...
	It's a cheesecake.
	It was overall...
	It wasn't just the butt.
	No. Nice legs, you know, just the back of someone.
	This is a good picture. I'm like an advocate of cheesecake because it's attractive.
	And that's what you put it there for, even though you have a bunch of people...
	You know, you have some certain...
	Groups of people that think it's exploitative.
	Who are we exploiting here?
	This is AI art.
	We're not exploiting anybody.
	Who's being exploited specifically?
	And I'm all for it now. I want all as much slop to flow through the stairwells of the digital Tower of Babel as possible to make it unusable and unattractive.
	So keep it up, people.
	This is good. I'm now all for it.
	More, more, more. The Tanstafel, T-A-N-S-T-A-A-F-L, all uppercase, thank you to the multitude of producers who said, um, dude, that's from science fiction author Robert Heinlein, and it's a theme in his writings, it is an acronym, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
	And we didn't catch that.
	No, not at all.
	But we did now.
	And, well, thank you.
	There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
	From now on, we'll just be tonstaffel.
	Can't help it. We appreciate it.
	It was a great piece.
	It really was. It worked out well.
	We thought it was fun. You know, I was reading, there was an interesting article.
	Hold on a second. There was a Dutch study that was done.
	Let me see. Do I have it here?
	Yes. Yes. Study shows real art stimulates the brain more than a copy.
	And so, real art, so actual art, stimulates the brain more than a copy.
	What's a copy? How is he defining a copy?
	Scientists in the Netherlands prove that experiencing the real art in person stimulates the brain ten times more than viewing a reproduced image.
	And so they took all these great Dutch masters from No Agenda Art Generator, but also Vermeer and Van Gogh.
	Vermeer is the one that they show in this article, which is the milkmaid girl with her head turned back.
	And so they hooked a bunch of people up to brainwave machines.
	The girl with the pearl earring, that's the one.
	They hooked up a bunch of people to brainwave machines, and when you're looking at the actual art live in the museum, Your brain is stimulated ten times more than looking at a copy, a reproduction of it, in the museum on the wall than the original, which I think is fascinating.
	Did they put a reproduction up on the wall in the museum?
	Yes, they did. Now, which brings us to another interesting factoid.
	What about the artists?
	I'm not sure Vermeer was one of them, but most artists, Velasquez for sure, They had a team of people, and they would do a portrait of somebody, usually it was somebody in the royal family, and they would be copies made.
	Hand it off. They'd have five copies, and they were all identical.
	Well, that they did not study.
	No, because that would be the same.
	Maybe. Maybe. It should be the same, because the artists and the mentees, the protégés who did the same exact pieces, they were taught by the same artist, and the brushstrokes were similar, everything was the same, and they made these copies.
	There's plenty of examples around the museums of the world where a piece exists in three museums at the same time, and they're all original.
	How does that work? Well, probably the same.
	I would say that those originals, I think the point is between an original piece of art versus the poster.
	The volunteers' brainwaves and eye movements were measured and analyzed.
	The researchers found that compared to reproductions, real art evokes a much stronger positive response in the procuneus.
	Which is the part of the brain responsible for personal identity, memory, and consciousness.
	Which kind of brings me to the point that I'd like to know, does AI art have less of a response than original art?
	No, that would be worth studying.
	I've already reached out to the museum.
	There's some of the art that we've put up, which is much AI art.
	Yes. To that I must be a much...
	Be forgotten.
	For example, this particular piece by Scaramanga, who, I don't know why he's submitting anything, because he hates us.
	There's another clip being made, yes.
	There is a piece, I mean, this is a piece that is quite striking when you see it, especially blowed up.
	It has an effect, so I don't know.
	Is this something new that's up?
	No, his piece, this piece we're talking about.
	No, the piece. With the tornadoes.
	That was not Scaramanga.
	Oh, that was Scaramanga. That was Scaramanga.
	I miscredited him, yes.
	Well, I didn't know you miscredited him.
	I did. I wouldn't know. This is my mistake.
	I miscredited him. Well, that's, you know, he doesn't like you.
	No, he loves me.
	Some of these pieces have been quite spectacular.
	This girl is the only AI girl he has.
	It's the same girl. These guys, they have their affairs with their girl.
	A couple of artists have a girl and they keep using her.
	It's kind of perverted.
	Do you think? Thank you to all of the artists who submitted art.
	We appreciate it. Everyone tries, and everyone has an equal shot, and of course, we're happy to critique wherever necessary.
	There really wasn't all that much.
	I kind of liked, Dreb Scott had the hurricane buttons with tsunamis, but compared to the Scaramanga piece, I mean, it was just a, that was a work of art.
	It was a literal work of art.
	Was there something else that we liked?
	I don't think so. There's Kamala pushing her.
	That's Darren. You make Darren look...
	Darren, your Kamala AI makes her look too good.
	That's your problem there.
	It doesn't look like her. No, it doesn't.
	She needs to be more haggard looking.
	That's the key offer. Put the key word in there.
	Put that word in there. In your prompt, haggard.
	In the prompt, haggard. By the way, we titled the episode 1702 Sloppenhopper.
	Which... We got some notes about that, too.
	Oh, did you get a note about slop and hop?
	I didn't get a note. Oh, yeah. Oh, you guys are deaf.
	Obviously said swap for copper.
	I think we even mentioned that, but okay.
	Yeah, but did you listen and listen?
	It's like... Listen, one person, one of our female listeners.
	You dummies, you heard it...
	You say you listened ten times, and it was very clearly...
	Swapping for copper or whatever.
	Did she start to nod off with, I'm surprised!
	I'm disappointed!
	It only took me two minutes to look that up.
	We're doing stuff on the fly. I looked it up.
	I knew the answer right away.
	Do your own podcast.
	Hey, let's thank the executive and associate executive producers and many future Commodores who supported us with the treasure for today.
	We, of course, appreciate any amount that anybody sends at any time for any reason, but usually sending value back for the value they receive for the show.
	And $200 and above for each episode, we read your note and you get an associate executive producership, $300 and above.
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	And these are credits that are completely valid in the land of show business.
	If people still care, just take a look at imdb.com where people post all their credits.
	And you can go look and you'll see that there are many people who are executive and associate executive producers of this very podcast, the No Agenda podcast.
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	It's on the front page of every show notes.
	Because I posed with my Commodore papers.
	Yes, you did. Got some comments from some people?
	I'm very disappointed.
	No one has put a Star of David on it yet or a yarmulke.
	I'm very disappointed.
	No. I've gotten no comments.
	You even drew a mustache.
	Anything. Anything.
	But we did get...
	A contribution from Mr.
	You did get a comment from Catherine in Cambodia or Thailand or wherever she is.
	What'd she say? Nice teeth.
	Oh, well, thank you.
	Thank you. I saved a long time for them.
	Mr. Black is in Reisbeck in the Netherlands, comes in with 526.36 and says, Dear John and Adam, what better to gift myself for my birthday, October 15th, you're on the list, than a no-agenda Commodore credential?
	Thank you for your courage and keep on keeping on, Mr.
	Black, who will become Commodore Black.
	Yes, especially if he goes to NoAgendaRings.com and puts in the details of where they send the Commodore certificate and what he wants to have on the certificate.
	A lot of people, we've only gotten probably half the people have...
	Oh, you've got to do that, people.
	You've got to do that. Otherwise, you won't receive it.
	You've got to do it. Yeah, because we don't know the exact same, the right shipping address and the exact way you want to spell.
	If I may, if I may, it is by far...
	Probably the most beautiful document we've produced.
	I love how it was shipped.
	It comes in a, not a small, but a large cylinder.
	No, that you're shipping, no. It doesn't?
	No, you got a special one in a tube.
	The rest of them are put in these large post-off, in an 11 by 14 big hard tube.
	The hard office. Yes.
	Yeah, and it's post office approved with the sheet.
	Otherwise, it's exactly the same.
	The point I was going to make is I love that there's tracing paper, so it's protected.
	I'm sure you're doing that. Yeah, that's the way they're all going to be.
	And the seal, what is it?
	Vellum. Vellum.
	Give me some vellum. I like five meters of vellum.
	The seal has blue ribbon, which is actual ribbon.
	It's a very pretty piece.
	And it's also got says on the seals, Commodore.
	Yes. I agree.
	It's the prettiest document that we've ever produced.
	Jay designed it pretty much.
	And it's an official Commodore ship.
	Yeah. It's a good looking product.
	Outstanding product, as usual.
	Sir Sleepy also got one of these $500 Commodore ships.
	He's in Gentry, Arkansas, and he says it's a switcheroo.
	He'd like to gift the Commodore title to his dad, Larry Ehrenberger, as his pontoon project boat has recently passed seaworthiness tests.
	Ooh! It is fitting that a newly commissioned vessel should have a newly commissioned captain.
	There you go. Commodore in this case.
	Commodore. Some of the great work and looking forward to four more years.
	Thanks, Sir Sleepy of the late nights.
	All right. Switcheroo has been put in place.
	Ken Chapman is in Rosemont, Illinois.
	$500 in the morning, gents.
	As a Trekkie, the combination of 1701 shows and a Commodore ship was too good to pass.
	It's also an opportunity for me to update on my Canadian refugee status.
	Ah! Oh, this is the guy with the bus and the family, I think.
	Yes, I believe so. Oh, yeah?
	I think so. Our visa renewal was approved this summer.
	My business is thriving.
	Construction has started on our house.
	And my wife is pregnant with our sixth human resource.
	Good job. How do you find the time?
	Good work. Since my company is growing, I find myself in need of some help.
	If there are any producers out there looking to pick up part-time remote work and have experience in construction, restoration, slash property claim industry, send me a resume with subject ITM to info at VanguardADJ.com.
	VanguardADJ. If any contractors need an exactimate estimate writer to help with their damage claim estimates, email me them as well.
	I have no idea what that means. Commodore donation request.
	Does the Commodore donation count towards knighthood?
	Answer, yes. If so, with past donations, including a small monthly, I've surpassed that goal.
	Please knight me Sir Ken of the Iron Suka.
	It's the name of our big green converted school bus.
	Yes, these are the guys I met in Tennessee, in Nashville.
	With a million kids in it.
	Producers, please listen.
	Adam and John deserve our support.
	A modest recurring donation of $3.33 is not too small and is not insulting.
	If you can't afford $3.33 a month, you need to take a hard look in the mirror.
	Stop telling yourself that you'll donate later when you have something more substantial to send.
	Subscribe now.
	You'll feel terrific.
	Every donation segment.
	Instead of guilt and shame.
	ITM. Thank you, Ken.
	Appreciate it. Say hi to your beautiful family.
	Luke Powell in Christiana, Tennessee, 500.
	73's W5BSY. He writes, please dub me Commander Crunch.
	NoagenderRings.com. Commodore, not Commander.
	Commodore. I said Commodore.
	I said Camodore. Commodore.
	I said Captain. I don't know what I said.
	This donation gets me three-fourths of the way towards knighthood.
	And John... Nice to hear you're a fellow Kentucky colonel.
	Ah, another Kentucky colonel.
	Luke Powell's a Kentucky colonel, 73s.
	He's in Christiana, Tennessee, W5BSY. There's big meetups every year they have.
	That's right. They also have some Kentucky colonel glassware.
	Oh, like a beer stein?
	No, it's just glassware.
	It's just, you know, like a tumbler.
	Oh, tumbler. Chris Fossgate, Kansas City, Missouri, 500.
	Your immediate reconstruction is second to none.
	Thanks for all you do. Thanks for the Commodore title.
	Sir Chris Fossgate in Kansas City, Knight of the Kansas City Real Estate.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Sir Jimmy James.
	Jimmy James in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, $500.
	Sir Jimmy James of the South Central Florida.
	God bless you all.
	South Central Florida Flatlands, he says.
	Flatlands. Flatlands, yes.
	Thank you. Michael Gonella, Hamilton, New Jersey.
	Hello, Hamilton 500.
	Hello. Please make me Commodore of Scientology.
	Thank you. I don't know.
	The Sea Org might have Commodores in it, so.
	But it's okay. You're good with us.
	Commodore of Scientology.
	Go to NoAgendaRings.com.
	Fill it out. Zachary McClellan in Frankenmuth, Michigan, 333.33.
	A big congratulations to Ed Weirdo of Michigan on a successful brain surgery.
	Well, yeah. Wow.
	Hopefully now you will not vote for Kamala.
	Please. Can he please get a douchebag?
	Douchebag. Yeah, no problem.
	It is. Baron Harkonnen and damsel of distress jeans in Houston, Texas.
	333.19 from the Baron and from the damsel of distress jeans.
	Many thanks to Linda Liu for the new executive role.
	Huh? This is a testimonial.
	We are hosting another comedy show slash goat rodeo at The Ranch in Arvada, Colorado on October 19th.
	Details at noagendameetups.com.
	No jingles, no karma. Hey, that sounds like a fun one.
	Comedy show goat rodeo.
	Huh. Nice. Nice guys.
	Mike Sisto's in Rotonda Beach, Florida.
	Two, three, four, five, six.
	First associate executive producer.
	And he says, Adam. As I write this note, we are recovering from Hurricane Milton here on the Gulf Coast of Florida.
	I just wanted to say thanks for all the first responders and send prayers to those that were less fortunate than us.
	As we, thankfully, only took a glancing blow and had some minor damage.
	This is my yearly get our wives out of jail donation.
	And I feel compelled to make that.
	I feel compelled to make to ensure their release from the inevitable run-ins with the law in the Great Smoky Mountains.
	Yes, Tina is up with the girls in the Smoky Mountains.
	They are hiking. And this includes his wife.
	So we have a little club and we all drink beer and talk about our wives when they're hiking.
	Luckily, my wife, Dame Elemental of the Manasota Key, was able to meet up with the gang only a day late to continue to reign of terror across the unsuspecting states.
	So, you know, it was really, Tina was texting with her, and they were kind of freaked out by the reporting, of course.
	And they were still there, and they couldn't get out because the highway was all jammed.
	They wound up spending the night with their dog in, I think, a school.
	There was some shelter. And they went back.
	Their house was, I guess, okay.
	And she was able to get a flight out and she flew right up and joined them a day later.
	So everything turned out good.
	And we're, of course, very happy that you guys are okay.
	Please remark the donation for whatever you deem to ensure their freedom.
	Shout out to Sir Don from Arizona, as I'm sure he will be following up with a donation for springing his wife from the joint, too.
	No jingles, but please send some karma to the Florida Gulf Coast.
	Thanks, Mike. Yeah, thank you very much, Mike.
	Here's for the girls. Get them out of jail.
	You've got karma.
	And there's Eli the Coffee Guy with an associate executive producership, 21014.
	Thank you, No Agenda Show.
	Your advice on getting my ham radio license inspired me.
	It's been an action on my to-do list for the past few years, but as you said, what am I waiting for?
	Soon I'll be able to use my bao feng without getting rousted by goons from the FCC. Can I get an Eating the Dogs jingle for producers who want fresh roasted coffee at an affordable price?
	They should just visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.
	Stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee guy.
	They're eating the dogs.
	Casey Conrad in Pickering, Ontario, Canada, 201-99.
	Dear John and Adam in the morning to you fine gents, and thank you for your courage and all that you do.
	My name is Casey Conrad, and I'm a long-time listener and a first-time donor.
	Please accept my donation to 201-8.99 and Canadian dollar rest for an associate executive producer title, which is probably like $10 USD due to the Canadian dollar being so abysmally bad.
	All right, we honor your dollar rest.
	It's actually $11. I recently launched a new graphic novel titled PC Pete and the Brood of Clones under my new publishing company called Two Cat Comics.
	This graphic novel pays homage to To all the OOG computer nerds and geeks out there, I'm looking at you, John C. Dvorak.
	As all of my characters are computers, not robots, being in my 50s now, I wanted to create and share something with the world as my way of leaving a lasting legacy.
	I would also like to pursue this in a full-time manner and leave my stressful 9-to-5 jobs.
	I would love and appreciate any support I can get from the No Agenda Nation.
	I have two other ideas that I'd like to work on.
	To purchase a copy in either high-quality PDF or print, please visit my website at 2catcomics.com or simply go to the Amazon.com and search for PC Pete clones.
	Please! I also need a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And give me some color for this new endeavor.
	Thank you kindly in advance.
	You've got karma.
	You know, on just classic PCs, I watched a YouTube video last night.
	Did you know... That they've brought back the Commodore 64, called the Commodore 64X, and it's exactly the same casing.
	It has the same keyboard, but it has like, I think you can get it loaded with Linux, but you have to see this thing.
	They've done all the sound effects.
	I mean, it's mind-blowing.
	You can load all the old games.
	It has emulators on it.
	It's really stunning. Yeah, just because the guy brought up geeky old nerdy stuff.
	I think I need to get one of these.
	Dan Richman is an Al-Ashua.
	Doesn't sound right. Alachua?
	Alachua. There you go.
	Alachua, South Florida.
	$200.66. Notes sent to Adam.
	I looked it up. Yes, indeed. Wanted to add some context on your coverage of Howard Stern.
	I was a long-time superfan.
	Around 2013, he made a purposeful shift.
	Went from a small crew, a couple of writers, to an army of staffers.
	We were talking about this on the previous episode.
	Dozens of writers! Apparently about 70.
	7-0. What?
	Yes. So...
	He said feared cancel culture and wanted to capture the MSNBC crowd.
	Nuked his audience. Guys like me went from being devout superfans to hating him.
	Then COVID utterly melted his brain.
	I cannot think of any pop culture figure who destroyed their legacy like this.
	Now, he has a podcast called Hebe and the Goy.
	Hebeandgoy.com and he sent me an episode which he actually did with the Goy's wife because the Goy was off doing something so it was Hebe and the Shiksa and they were both massive fans of Stern and it was a very interesting good deconstruction and I'll give you my takeaway since we were talking about it.
	I think Stern always wanted to be like a Leno or like a Jimmy Kimmel.
	He wanted to be super famous.
	He wanted to be with all of the celebrities.
	And he didn't realize that having the ragtag bunch of idiots and the crew that he had was actually the beauty of the show.
	And when he had the opportunity and had the money, and that's what part of that whole video that got leaked out, He actually was trying to put that together.
	That's why he got all these writers, and he didn't realize that that was the appeal.
	And he's always been a coward.
	And then, you know, COVID just, I agree, melted his brain.
	You had part of a theory about that, John.
	Yes, well, his wife, because you've brought up, we went back and forth a little email exchange.
	The things we do. Well, it's one of the rare things.
	We do communicate on occasion.
	And you said, well, it's his wife.
	And I looked her up and she's like, she's a cat lady.
	Massive. Massive cat lady.
	She's rescued a thousand cats.
	And so I had to conclude that there's no way that the two of them don't have a case of toxoplasmosis.
	Bing, boom, done.
	Which is what you will get from cats, and it's a disease, it's a very strange parasite that you can get rid of with, I think ivermectin will clear it up, I'm not sure.
	Oh, the irony. That would be very ironic.
	But it causes all kinds of anomalies, and it also affects the way you think, and for example, it's known that it probably exists in nature because...
	Because mice who run into cat feces, that's where it comes from, will get toxoplasmosis and they begin to not fear cats, which makes them easier to catch.
	Oh, how about that?
	So it's like kind of one of nature's weird little tricks.
	It's a self-destructive virus, which is exactly what he has.
	So I just think that toxoplasmosis may be in play here, because it just seems like something's wrong.
	Yes. Hebeandthegoy.com is worth a watch.
	If you are a super fan and were disappointed, they lay it all out.
	It's an hour and a half. What can I say?
	Tina's hiking. Last on our list is Linda Lepatkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
	How about that? 200 bucks.
	And she's requesting off-the-wall jobs karma.
	And she says that for a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's Imagemakers Inc.
	with a K. Or find Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and Writer of Resumes, on the producer list.
	Four more years. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Noagentadonations.com is where you can support the show with your treasure.
	It is value for value, time, talent, and treasure.
	Help us out. Keep the show going four more years, or at least until the new year.
	It'll be fun to continue that.
	Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers.
	Of episode 1,703 of the No Agenda Show.
	Our formula is this.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	I want to, you know, of course we've had these horrific hurricanes.
	I have a little follow-up on what happened in western North Carolina.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Duke Energy is the big provider up there.
	The same Duke Energy who has left our producer Bruce 72 in the cold.
	It's now below freezing at night in the mountains.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	17 days.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	He needs some power, people.
	He has water and he has food, so he's okay.
	But they're not being served up there.
	And it turns out Duke Energy is in charge of more than just the electricity.
	They're also in charge of a lot of the dams and the lakes.
	And they're now being accused of some monkey business.
	From the Catawba River in Charlotte.
	My heart is just fractured.
	To Lookout Shoals Lake in Claremont.
	It smells like rotting fish.
	It's sour-smelling and it's hard to breathe.
	Two communities 40 miles apart are connected by water.
	Both are at the mercy of the utility that controls it.
	Each shares their own sense of extreme loss and anger.
	Duke Energy fell asleep at the wheel, but actually they didn't fall asleep.
	They were wide awake. They didn't do what they should have done.
	In between the two sits Lake Norman.
	During Helene, Duke Energy records show the water at the lakes directly above and below Lake Norman increased well above their licensed maximum levels, increasing by roughly 12 feet.
	Compared to the much larger Lake Norman, which barely and only briefly crested above its maximum, rising only about three feet.
	The communities where lake levels rose well above maximum levels are places where the median household incomes are much lower than the Lake Norman community.
	Duke Energy has said the utility started moving water through its 11-lake system on the Tuesday before Helene hit, but won't release specifics, telling us the flooding at smaller lakes like Lookout Shoals and Mountain Island and downstream was unpreventable due to the historic amount of rainfall.
	In a statement, the utility told us lakes are managed as an integrated system, not for the benefit of a single lake.
	The utility noted it operated its lakes, including Lake Norman, to reduce the impacts of flooding for lake and river neighbors upstream and downstream prior to, during, and after the storm.
	Adding Duke Energy is confident its hydro operations team managed this event as effectively as possible To help mitigate flooding impacts for all lake and river neighbors and the public.
	Obviously a local report.
	Um... Sounds like AI. No, no, it's WNCW, I think.
	You know, it wouldn't surprise me, seeing as when we were in Austin and the snowpocalypse hit, the first thing they did is unplug the east side of I-35, and the former New York banker, they had power, never went out.
	So, yeah, I think it's possibly true that they take care of their own over there.
	Boots on the ground from the Climate Haven.
	We know the Climate Haven.
	We had a clip.
	On the last show, if you recall.
	Oh, it's a climate haven.
	It's amazing this happened here.
	Our producer says, in episode 1702, you played a clip from MSNBC that referred to the Western North Carolina area as a climate haven.
	Credit where credit is due, I believe MSNBC is correct insofar as this is exactly what some people who live there, specifically in the Asheville area, believe.
	My father, sister, and brother-in-law live in Asheville.
	While on vacation with my family this past summer, my brother-in-law, like all insecure liberals, couldn't resist steering the conversation to politics and climate change to seek some validation.
	Specifically, he talked about how he loved Asheville, not just for its progressive ideals and microbreweries, but for how he felt safe there from the climate.
	He actually made the statement and, quote, everywhere else will be burning, but Asheville will be one of the last remaining habitable places.
	Meanwhile, my father recently said to me he believes, without evidence, that humanity only has 30 years left to live.
	He is very sincere and clearly distressed by this knowledge of impending doom.
	Asheville is not good for mental health, people!
	Alright, thank you, producer.
	Yeah, I think he's right.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Sheville, yes.
	So I have the NOAA prediction from May of 2024, which I'll just read the headline.
	NOAA predicts, this is from their website, NOAA predicts above normal 2024 Atlantic hurricane season.
	Well, this was not an Atlantic hurricane, and so far it's been quite low.
	Boots on the ground from our producer.
	From a home insurance product manager, privy to some pretty solid data over the years, as you can imagine.
	Do we have the best producers in the universe, or what?
	Storms are not causing more damage denominated in dollars when you adjust for inflation and home values.
	You played the report last show admitting storms are not more frequent.
	The total damage in dollars is also not rising.
	And it suggests pretty strongly they're also not getting more deadly or intense.
	Hurricane Andrew in 1992 remains the highest dollar cost hurricane for inflation adjusted.
	However, he says fire damage is increasing in drier climates.
	Obviously changes in fire management over time are a factor.
	So there you go.
	They're just jacking your rates for no good reason, because it's not actually getting more expensive for them adjusted for inflation.
	Yeah, they're going for the profits.
	Now that all of this...
	If you can fool them, take the money.
	Take the money and run. All of this...
	Of course, there's not change, or why would it, the climate nutjobs in Washington State for jumping on the bandwagon.
	Oh! Oh!
	We've got to do more!
	It is difficult to compare a hurricane with a Pineapple Express, with the exception of the rain and a lot of it.
	We're thinking and sending our positive thoughts to our neighbors in the southeast of the country.
	It was a topic at a meeting of UW climate scientists and state leaders who authored a new Washington climate resilience strategy and point to the record Nooksack flooding of 2021 as an example of how warmer weather has increased rain intensity.
	Is there a parallel there with what we're talking about in the northwest and what's happening in the southeast?
	There is. You know, the oceans are getting warmer.
	Same thing happening there.
	Warmer air holds more water.
	Dr. Crystal Raymond is a UW researcher who helped craft a national assessment of climate change, noting that Florida has been dramatically impacted.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	The events in Florida, a reminder that Washington has its own set of climate concerns just around the bend.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Oh, brother.
	Climate, more money, more money, more money.
	Meanwhile, the Sahara Desert, old lakes and rivers are coming back to life.
	You seen those pictures?
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	A river that has been dry for decades has come back to life after the rainfall.
	There's even a lake that has been dry for 50 years, named Lake Uriki, between the Zagora and Tata regions.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	So the old desert lakes will come back to life.
	Yes. So, did you know that there were desert lakes?
	I don't know.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Yeah. If there were 50 years ago, what was causing that?
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Climate change?
	I don't know. You know, stinky cars.
	Horrible cars.
	And in the Mediterranean, I pulled this clip only for the very last end.
	This is a guy who's checking out the underwater, you know, vegetation in the Mediterranean.
	Erwin Gretchel gets ready for his next dive.
	He's explored the waters in Croatia's Valsalina Bay many times already.
	The Austrian marine biologist first started diving here 35 years ago.
	I can say with certainty that the first 20 or maybe 25 years since I first came here, there were hardly any changes.
	But the last 6 to 10 years, there has been an incredible amount of change.
	Now there are changes almost every month.
	Above the water, everything is like it's always been.
	Blue skies, crystal clear water, and people relaxing by the sea.
	But underwater, it's clear what Gretschel means.
	Until a few years ago, the bay was home to seagrass meadows, habitat for hundreds of underwater species.
	They're known as the lungs of the sea and key to maintaining the ecological balance.
	Today, Valsalina Bay is an underwater desert.
	No vegetation, no seagrass meadows.
	The marine habitat has vanished in just a few years with dramatic consequences.
	Biodiversity loss means we humans are in danger of suffocating in our own filth because nature is no longer able to regenerate what we have polluted.
	We're in danger of suffocating in our own filth.
	You filthy, nasty people eating meat.
	Whatever you're doing.
	You know the latest thing in trying to stop the impact of cattle is feeding them red seaweed.
	To reduce... The poisonous stuff?
	Is it poisonous? Well, I mean the red tide is.
	There's algae. Yeah.
	I don't know red seaweed.
	I don't know what red seaweed is.
	Here we go. One solution to this turf problem could come from the surf.
	The seaweed is somewhat of the holy grail of, you know, climate change in terms of solutions from the ocean.
	Dr. Jen Smith is researching how this species of seaweed, called Asparagopsis taxiformis, can stop all that burping.
	Once it is fed to the livestock, it simply prevents methane from ever being formed, and therefore the cows don't burp that methane out of their mouth.
	One study found that adding just a tiny amount of this red seaweed to a cow's diet reduced its methane emissions between 40 and 98 percent.
	Now Dr. Smith is partnering with an Australian company to scale up production.
	The goal is not to really produce it.
	We know how to do that, but only do it more efficiently.
	Steve Miller's company, CH4 Global, makes a red seaweed-based feed additive called Methane Tamer.
	It's already being fed to cattle in Australia with plans to grow it worldwide.
	The goal is to perfect the process of growing asparagopsis in outdoor grow ponds that can be built anywhere with access to ocean water.
	Do I eat that plant-based approach, or do I eat that meat-based approach that has now dramatically lowered its carbon footprint?
	Miller expects to see low-methane beef in U.S. supermarkets by the beginning of next year.
	That doesn't sound like the beef's going to be very tasty.
	Low-methane beef probably tastes like fish.
	Can you imagine?
	You ever fry some beef in a cast iron skillet that you cooked fish in?
	Oh, no. That's a no-no.
	You end up with a very, the flavor is just not ruined.
	Ruined. Ruined.
	Ruined. Ruined. That can be fixed.
	How about playing this then?
	We're going to talk about beef. Let's talk about bird flu.
	Oh! We're back!
	Avian influenza was first detected in California's dairy cattle a little more than a month ago, and now it's been confirmed in more than 80 of the state's dairy herds and in three dairy workers.
	Carrie Klein from Member Station KVPR has more.
	Dairy workers are being equipped with more PPE, like face shields and disposable booties.
	Farms are also restricting people and vehicles on site.
	Tricia Stever-Blattler is with the Farm Bureau in Tulare County, the country's largest milk producer.
	She says the costs of these precautions are trickling down beyond farms.
	She cites a cattle hauler whose job is to transport the livestock from place to place.
	He's currently seeing two-thirds less income for his employees, the drivers, and yet he still has all that overhead and payroll that he's trying to meet.
	Another hit to California's dairy industry, even those cattle that fully recover from the virus may produce less milk.
	Can't win. No, this is all so stupid.
	They're just filling air time at this point.
	There was an interesting twist to the TikTok saga, which is ongoing.
	What saga are we discussing?
	Well, of course, we still have...
	They have a deadline coming up, I think.
	January. So there's a deadline coming up where they have to sell to an American entity.
	At the same time, 14 attorney generals in 14 different states are suing them over harming children.
	And now some documents were not properly redacted and CBS got a hold of them.
	TikTok executives knew how damaging their app was to young users according to legal documents we were never supposed to see.
	CBS's Jolene Kent reports tonight on these secret internal communications.
	Just days after multiple states sued TikTok for allegedly designing the app to addict children, new details have emerged about how they say the company does it.
	In this lawsuit filed by the state of Kentucky, sections of the complaint were not properly redacted, as first reported by Kentucky Public Radio and NPR. Kentucky's lawsuit claims TikTok knows all it takes to hook an average user is viewing 260 videos, as short as 8 seconds...
	What was that number?
	Listen again. How about that?
	Wait a minute.
	Very few eight seconds.
	Well, that calculation was based on all videos being eight seconds.
	No, no, no. People...
	No, they get to 35 minutes at 260.
	That's eight seconds. Yes, but I think people typically look at a video and after eight seconds they swipe up to the next one.
	I think that's what they're talking about.
	I don't think so.
	I didn't say that.
	You just made it up.
	No, I'm interpreting...
	The CBS News report.
	I'm not making anything up.
	And a feature designed to encourage teens to take a break after 60 minutes on the app, quote, does not actually impose a screen time limit.
	Instead, its goal, improving public trust via media coverage.
	TikTok allegedly knew its time management tools reduced usage by only 90 seconds.
	Here's the thing. I don't believe that they're hooking teenagers.
	I think they're hooking full-blown adults.
	Because that's all I see.
	Well, okay, I've watched TikTok videos.
	Yeah, but not on apps.
	I'll watch ten of them, maybe. You don't use the app.
	No, of course I don't.
	What would I use the app on?
	No, I know. Yes, we know.
	You're the best. John C. Dvorak.
	I have no phone. I'm not the best.
	I'm just saying I'm a reasonable person.
	I've seen the light.
	I know where the phones belong.
	Yes, but what I'm saying is this is the app that is designed to keep you engaged and And if you don't swipe up, it swipes up automatically.
	None of this happens on the website.
	So you are not going to become addicted.
	Although, watching 260 videos, that's a lot.
	I don't think I've watched totally, and we've been doing the show, and I've been using TikTok videos now for a couple of years.
	I still don't think I've gotten to 260.
	No, but you're not the target market.
	They're not trying to addict you.
	They're trying to addict everybody.
	That guy's hopeless.
	No, you're on a web browser.
	You're no good. You're no good, is a follow-up.
	It's really frustrating to know that TikTok had information internally from their own research that suggested that their app...
	Was causing harm in particular ways and that they chose not to act on that information.
	Oh no! The Kentucky complaint has since been repealed.
	What do you mean they chose not?
	Let's back up to the early days of the internet and these news organizations.
	Because I wrote for a number of them.
	And you write for these guys, and you say, well, I'm doing an article, this would be, I could name names, but just all of them were this way, all of them.
	You'd write something and say, where's this, you put a link in there, because you're trying to explain something, and you know, boom, you put a link.
	No, you can't, you can't do that.
	What? You can't link out of the site because if people link out of the site, then they're not going to come back, which is factually incorrect.
	It's factually incorrect, but that's what everyone thought.
	And so you couldn't link out.
	Forbes magazine was one of them.
	And you couldn't, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	You don't, no, no, no.
	You got to keep them on the site.
	So they want to keep them on the site.
	I mean, this was, there was, you're right, they were wrong about their analysis, but How is that different than wanting to keep you on the site, every news organization, and TikTok wanting to keep you on the site?
	Tell me exactly what the difference is.
	I have no words.
	I just asked.
	Yes. No, it's no different.
	It's no different. But apps are totally intended to keep you in the app continuously.
	That's... Again...
	Well, the difference is the app is doing a lot more than a website.
	The website has a cookie, but the app knows if you're walking, if you're laying down, it may be listening.
	I mean, all the EULA stuff that you approved.
	Using your contact list and opening the camera.
	Yes, exactly! The Kentucky complaint has since been resealed, and the Attorney General declined our request for an interview.
	In a statement, TikTok called NPR highly irresponsible for publishing this information, adding the lawsuit cherry picks misleading quotes and takes outdated documents out of context to misrepresent our commitment to community safety.
	The Kentucky lawsuit also alleges TikTok's own research found that compulsive usage correlates with a slew of negative mental health effects like loss of analytical skills, memory formation, contextual thinking, conversational depth, empathy and increased anxiety.
	I believe that! Well, you have to go empirically, yes.
	Something's causing that description.
	Those symptoms are caused by something.
	Let's listen to that list again.
	The Kentucky lawsuit also alleges TikTok's own research found that compulsive usage correlates with a slew of negative mental health effects like loss of analytical skills, memory formation, contextual thinking, conversational depth, empathy, and increased anxiety.
	Let's put this to the test with a man on the street piece that France 24 did.
	And this is really interesting.
	They couldn't find bigger idiots than these people.
	They... Did a report over the influence of AI and deep fakes, how it looms large over the U.S. presidential race.
	So they play, you know, Mr.
	Reagan, he does a lot of these parody ads and stuff.
	Yeah, he's got somebody working in his organization that's putting together a lot of AI stuff.
	And he even puts on them parody.
	I mean, I've seen the rundown. It says parody.
	So they take one of these, don't tell people it's parody, and they go out to Washington, D.C., and show this to people.
	And these are tourists in D.C. who are kind of mulling around outside the White House.
	Listen to this. This campaign ad posted by Elon Musk has over 136 million views.
	But it's actually a fake.
	Made with artificial intelligence.
	So if you criticize anything I say, you're both sexist and racist.
	Joe taught me rule number one, carefully hide your total income.
	It perfectly captures Kamala Harris' voice and likeness.
	But Musk failed to clarify that the video was fake when he shared it on his social media platform, X. He simply says, this is amazing.
	The YouTuber, Mr.
	Reagan, created the video and posted it on his channel.
	The fervent Trump supporter claims the videos are parodies and are not meant to be taken seriously.
	At the end of the day, everybody who's complaining that this is indistinguishable from real life and people are going to be tricked either have, are very low IQ themselves, or are watching too much TikTok, have very little faith in people to be a little bit skeptical.
	But is it so easy to determine that the videos are fake?
	Now listen carefully to the three subjects they've chosen for this report.
	We asked Americans if they could tell the difference.
	What do you think? She sure knew a lot of information about someone being senile and didn't come forward.
	Are you able to spot it right away?
	I'm not. And it might be my age.
	Somebody used her voice and made that.
	What about you? Yeah, I think it's all fake.
	I don't know what they're trying to...
	Are they advertised? I can't really tell whether this news clip or video clip is for them or against them.
	The video clearly causes confusion.
	What? And it's not the only AI content duping social media users.
	So they get an old lady who says, I'm not too sure, maybe it's my age.
	They get two people who say, it's fake.
	And then some whack job gay guy who's like...
	And then she says, clearly it confuses everybody.
	This is bull crap.
	It's total...
	What horse crap this is.
	Yeah. I'm surprised you played it.
	Because it doesn't back up your basic thesis.
	Well, to complete the segment...
	Thank you, Producer Anonymous.
	Hi, Adam. Just for your personal enjoyment, I spend some of my free time on Outlier AI. It's a platform that pays humans to train AI. I found I received the best feedback from my human reviewers on my training of the AI when I used Gemini AI to assist my training.
	Entropy at its finest.
	I love that.
	No, it's definitely headed in that direction.
	It is. It can't happen fast enough.
	I'm very excited. It won't happen as fast as you hope.
	No, I know. But a girl can dream.
	So, can I do one international news story so I can get it out of the way?
	You can do whatever you want. Let's do Israel versus Macron.
	I just think this has been going on for a while.
	We haven't played these clips.
	Yeah, you're right. Powerful new explosions rocked Beirut's southern suburbs tonight as Israel expands its bombardment of the Hezbollah and Hamas militant groups in Lebanon.
	Earlier, Israel struck a Palestinian refugee camp in the north for the first time, killing a Hamas commander.
	Thousands of people in Lebanon continue to flee the widening conflict in the region.
	Palestinians along a key corridor there are facing new Israeli evacuation orders as airstrikes continue.
	Meanwhile, French President Emmanuel Macron is calling for a halt to arms deliveries to Israel for its war in Gaza.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Well, what caught my attention on that one was what Netanyahu said.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	And I'll ask you, what are the seven fronts?
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Let me see. We have Gaza.
	We have Syria.
	We have...
	Wait, wait, that's not a front.
	The Golan Heights.
	I thought that's Lebanon.
	No, no, Lebanon.
	Okay, well, I'll just say okay.
	You give me two.
	I'm giving you two.
	Okay, Lebanon. Three.
	Oh, the Houthis.
	Four. Four. It's not a front, but you're going to have to give them Iran because they are shooting the rockets.
	Five. Five. Canada.
	Canada is six. Yeah.
	Find me two more.
	Brazil? Let me think.
	What's he saying when he says seven fronts?
	This is bullcrap. Does Yemen count?
	No, that's the Houthis.
	West Bank? No, not really.
	Jordan. Jordan? No, Jordan's peaceful.
	No, of course not. They're buddies.
	Egypt's the same way.
	Kiev? Ukraine?
	I mean, I'm out. I'm out.
	I don't know. Yeah, I gave you two extra ones.
	I mean, come on. That's a very good question.
	I do not know. Maybe, because America controls Israel, maybe he's just talking like an American.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	Netanyahu said all civilized countries should be standing with Israel.
	His message to Macron, shame on you.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	It's getting a It's a little hard when you hear this particular deconstruction of the Israeli plan about Gaza.
	Let's bring in Aaron Bregman, the Senior Teaching Fellow at the Department of War Studies at King's College London.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Great to have you on the program this evening.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	I know you're a former IVF soldier as well.
	I think you served, am I right to say, back in 1982 in the Lebanon conflict.
	So your context and analysis is very important this evening.
	Just give me your understanding of what's going on in the north of Gaza right now.
	What the Israelis are trying to do in the northern part of the Gaza Strip is to empty it.
	The citizens who are there, we're talking about 350,000 to 400,000 to the south.
	It is a straightforward The aim, say the Israelis, is to separate between the good guys and the 5,000 bad guys, the Hamas combatants or terrorists.
	And so this is what they are doing, trying to push the citizens of Jabaliyah and all this area to the south in order to fight against the people of Hamas who are still there.
	Yeah, so send all the civilians down south, 350,000, and then bomb the 5,000 guns.
	They've got to be terrorists. They've got to be the bad guys.
	Someone sent me a new interview with Michael Hudson.
	We've played the clips of him before.
	Don't remember. Yeah, he's the economist, and he was in the War College and did a lot of consulting for Brzezinski and all those guys back in the day.
	And he has this, I'm going to clip it for Thursday, he has a very interesting analysis of how the U.S., since we can't really, you know, you can't reinstitute a draft in America.
	You can't get elected if you say, oh, let's have a draft.
	No one's going to elect you as president or any representative.
	You just have to up the ante for volunteers.
	Right. You can't use nukes because that's mutually assured destruction.
	But we still have this neocon, maybe neoliberal, we need to go after the oil.
	We want all the resources.
	It's still the same a-holes who want all the resources.
	So Israel is perfect because they will fight.
	And, you know, they fight ideologically.
	They're like, you know, we hate these guys.
	We'll go kill them. And some of us will get killed.
	And it just comes down to terrorism, basically.
	And that the Israelis are stooge and we send them everywhere.
	Or stooge.
	Yeah. I know half of the audience is like, no man, the Jews control everything!
	Look at all the congressmen senators!
	Okay. Yeah.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	Of course. It's actually not them.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
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	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
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	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
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	No problem. I'd left in 27 due to media hatred, overload, and TDS. I was also working in the media industry at the time.
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	He says... Didn't say a lot, he says, but it has been used.
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	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	He says, how you doing Adam and John?
	A while ago you called AOL accounts guaranteed spooks.
	Let me tell you, I am no spook.
	Just the only No Agenda Meetup member, El Madano Tenerife Canary Islands.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	I'm working on it.
	So we had a meetup and he was the only one that went.
	Don't worry. Canary Islands, yeah.
	It'll get better. It'll get better.
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	And, of course, on Friday, the big Fredericksburg, Texas meetup.
	Matt Long is organizing that.
	Matt is pretty famous.
	He has a radio show here nearby.
	On Hill Country Patriot.
	And I think a lot of people are going to show for this.
	So if you are coming and if you decide to bring an on-the-spot donation, please, please, please put it in an envelope with a note so that we can credit you properly.
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	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	Yes, I'm indicating that.
	Alright, well I got three. Okay.
	The first one is a change of pace type of thing.
	Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't.
	This is the laugh. Okay, the laugh.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Interesting end of show idea, don't you think?
	Maybe, maybe, maybe. Okay, then we got park.
	You hit it out of the park.
	I like it. That's not bad.
	It's clean. Yeah, it's very clean.
	It's clean. We like clean. And then wow.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Wow and wow wow. Okay, so far wow and wow wow is leading.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	I have three. Bam!
	There's the black guy.
	I just love him.
	Hmm? Yeah, not bad.
	They're lying. I don't think anyone can be...
	Wow and wow wow. I think wow and wow wow takes the cake.
	You got it once again.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	I thought people liked it.
	I thought people liked that tip.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	I saw people posting on X about it.
	Yeah, yeah. But the problem is, with that tip, is that there was a...
	I could have topped it with something that's a little more close to home, which is that apparently Steve Gibson...
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Oh! He has software.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	He always has some software.
	He has a free software that's specifically for this product, for this purpose.
	Oh, I didn't realize.
	Yeah, and so I wanted to tip that.
	Mm-hmm. And I just got to get the name of it.
	I don't have it on my...
	I forgot to print it out, but it's...
	I think if you go to his website, Steve Gibson, whatever it is...
	Can anybody help us out real quick in the troll room?
	Yes, I can probably find it by just searching.
	So it does the exact same thing by making sure that your...
	That your gun drive is real.
	GRC.com Steve Gibson.
	I hear GRC.com is what's being said.
	Yeah, that would be his website.
	Yes, okay. So go to Valid Drive.
	That's the name of it. Valid Drive.
	Valley. V-A-L-I Drive.
	Oh, Valley Drive. Valley Drive.
	Valley Drive. If it's valid.
	So anyway, so I wanted to do that, and since I've been backing off on some of these, because this newer...
	And the other one is still floating around, but this would probably be a better way to go.
	That's your tip. Oh, that's the tip for today?
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	We'll put the Department of Justice of the United States...
	We will double the Civil Rights Division and direct law enforcement to counter this extremism.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	Threats to our democracy.
	Cackling Kamala, picking tampons.
	Weird is not the word, but where you begin.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Lying on your military record, not a sin.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Officer Harris, the type to have you locked up in the bin.
	Coach's policy on COVID was just nuts.
	His wife opening the windows to smell the city burning with us.
	Creating a snitch line for your neighbors and constituents.
	Making a fuss.
	Proving over and over again that you guessed it, yeah.
	These politicians not like us.
	Now they're bringing Timmy Walls to dance.
	Policies during the summer of Floyd.
	Where did he take a stand?
	Singing in his past. Seeing what's to hide on the campaign trail.
	Look around full of beta looking males.
	Get the blacks to the table.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	They ruin everything.
	That word is so common.
	I am trying to scrub it from my vocabulary, but I can't.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	I can't. I will.
	It is my hope to never use that word again and find a good replacement.
	Maybe I'll make one up. Absolutely bananas.
	to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.
	I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.
	And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.
	So bananas. Absolutely.
	So bananas. Gob-smackingly.
	Everyone has rights. Women have rights.
	Bananas. Bananas. Bananas.
	Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.
	Bananas. Bananas.
	Bananas. The best podcast in the universe.
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