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And from northern Silicon Valley where it's too damned hot, I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, I figured you'd be mad about that.
You have a bad attitude today about things.
You're mad because it's too hot and you have no air conditioning.
It was 95 yesterday.
That's what I mean. It's too hot for San Francisco.
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We used to talk about her.
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We could have done a promotion, but we'd get sued by Paramount.
Yeah, it's interesting you put that in the newsletter, because I hadn't even thought about it until, like, you know, that's probably a good point.
If you use one little bit of Star Trek imagery, do they come after you right away?
Oh, yeah. And they do it because that's what they do.
And if you're going to do it, you have to do it all the time.
So they do it with everybody.
So we should tell the artists up front, don't do any Star Trek art?
We won't run anything that's got even the Star Trek type logo.
You can't even do that for like parody's sake?
It's not a parody. What are we parodying?
It depends on what the image looks like.
I think that's very dependent upon the image.
And I think they go after parodies, too.
Well, maybe not so much.
But that's beside the point.
We usually don't use parodies necessarily in our art.
Well, we use a lot of product parodies.
I'm not arguing the fact.
Mockery is different.
Oh, okay. All right.
Mockery. That's good. Man, I think we should just kick it off with some ABC special live coverage.
Very demure, very mindful.
Helene has now become the deadliest mainland hurricane since Katrina back in 2005, almost 20 years ago.
The storm's death toll is now at least 227 across several states.
But many people are still unaccounted for with their families, desperate for answers.
And the search for them is complicated.
The full extent of the damage is still coming into focus.
We struggle to get basic supplies and hundreds of thousands of people still remain without power this morning.
Our Gio Benitez is leading our special coverage Southeast Strong and joins us now live from Marshall, North Carolina.
Oh yeah, this is the new thing.
Southeast Strong, you see.
You've got to say Southeast Strong.
Misreport everything, but Southeast strong.
I think misreporting is the key to this.
Yes, it seems.
From every side of the spectrum.
Yes. There was one that came up, I think it was last night, this woman comes on talking about her...
Elderly uncle and aunt who aren't elderly at all, and they wouldn't let it rescue because the helicopter pilot was told to stand down by the fire chief.
Yeah. And I'm going to arrest you, the fire chief said.
The fire chief's not a policeman, but okay.
And it was like a three-minute chopper ride from the rescue point, which was the side of a hill, to the town where the fire chief told them to stand down.
Mm-hmm. Well, I don't understand.
And he wouldn't go back and pick this one guy up.
He went back and picked up his son, which he dropped off.
But then, I don't know, it was only three minutes away.
Why didn't he just fly him someplace else where this fire chief wasn't standing around telling you not to do it?
I mean, these reports are just sketchy.
Well, that one I can explain because they...
Between picking up the woman and leaving his son and the husband behind, they put a TFR in place, temporary flight restriction.
And the only way to get there through that valley or that gully or whatever it was, was right through what the feds had put up as a TFR. It doesn't mean that the fire chief can arrest anybody.
Also, this is so politicized, it's sickening.
And I loved everybody, like, Lindsey Graham's a dick!
Lindsey Graham doesn't care!
Lindsey Graham is a horrible person!
And they play this clip. You know, I've been going all over South Carolina, like most people, I haven't slept much.
But look what's going on in Israel.
Our friends in Israel are surrounded by people that want to kill them.
Lindsey Graham doesn't care about anybody!
That's a good one.
There was six minutes of him and Hannity talking about, and even Graham was going off on...
By the way, his pronunciation of Israel is something to behold.
Israel. Israel. I can't even do it.
So, you know, I'm the last person to kind of defend Lindsey Graham, but in this case...
That's for sure. It was really, it was so like, Lindsey!
Graham didn't care about the people.
He was talking about it for six minutes and calling everybody out.
But I went back. I actually did a little bit of historical work and I was checking some stuff.
And, you know, there's a governor race going on in...
In North Carolina.
And the lieutenant governor is running against the governor, as far as I understand.
Mark Robinson, he's the big black guy that's always talking about, you know, hellfire and damnation.
Very controversial guy.
And it seems like they're kind of trying to pin all of this stuff, or the slow federal response...
On him.
Republican Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson says even though he missed a vote to approve the state's emergency declaration before Helene, the vote didn't matter.
Yeah, the lieutenant governor was the only elected official not to weigh in on Governor Roy Cooper's request ahead of the storm devastating North Carolina.
Capitol reporter Michael Hyland is joining us now with this story.
Michael, the lieutenant governor pointed the finger back at the governor?
He talked about all of this today as he was getting ready to take more supplies out to
the western part of the state, which he's been working on coordinating with local leaders.
In fact, he's been working with the Franklin County Sheriff's Office over the last several
days going back and forth from here to western North Carolina, helping to bring things like
food and water and coordinating with local leaders with rescue missions.
He's posted on social media about meeting with people impacted and said Governor Roy
Cooper has not done enough to respond to the devastation.
Records show last week as the storm was approaching, the governor reached out to Robinson and the other eight members of the Council of State, which is a group of statewide elected officials, to ask for their vote in support of declaring a state of emergency.
Robinson was the only member not to vote.
This happened as several members of his staff were resigning from their jobs last week.
Here's what he said when asked why he missed the vote.
I don't even need to cover why, because here's the bottom line.
My vote in that, that vote was gonna pass with or without my vote, so it was absolutely inconsequential that, you know, me voting.
It didn't matter. Seems to me Lieutenant Governor had one job prior to this disaster, and it was to go and vote so that we could get disaster relief.
And the one thing he could have done, he didn't do.
A spokesman for Governor Cooper accused Robinson of engaging in a, quote, online disinformation campaign about the storm response that he says causes confusion in areas with limited communications and potentially puts lives at risk.
Robinson also criticized Cooper for being in New York last week on Wednesday as the storm was approaching.
Cooper's office says he was back in North Carolina Wednesday afternoon and coordinating the state's response ahead of time.
It's... So, oh, it's his fault.
Well, if you got nine people and eight vote, then it's okay.
But there's so much...
Well, let's don't overlook Robinson's being smeared last week or the week before.
That's the whole point. By being on the Black Pervs for Teens website 10 years ago.
I'm a black Nazi! And a black Nazi thing.
And that whole thing. I mean, this guy, it was so bad that even Trump couldn't bring himself to invite him to one of the North Carolina rallies.
So the guys, they've gone after this guy.
He's a hot potato. He's a hot potato.
Hot potato. He can still win.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But...
You know, people don't really understand how everything works with emergency management.
And I'm pretty sure that South Carolina and North Carolina, you know, there were emergency workers.
Of course, what everyone saw a lot of, particularly on social media, was the redneck army.
It's the sound of solace.
Help is on the way.
We just kind of organized a private helicopter army to go in and survey the damage and extract people and take supplies in and just create landing zones for everybody to have supply routes in and out.
Matt McSwain is a pilot from Mount Holly and says he received a call from Operation AirDrop, an organization now working to shore up relief and rescue efforts for folks trapped in North Carolina's high country.
We've had 37 helicopters today, volunteers.
We've had people from Texas to Maine all the way across the East Coast just show up and like, how do we help?
For folks who remember Katrina, there's like the Cajun Navy.
I feel very much like this is Cajun Navy.
Yep, this is Redneck Navy.
Redneck Marine Corps. I'm a Marine, so redneck Marines.
McSwain took us back to the war room where we were allowed to take photos but not share any audio from inside.
There's a station where they gather calls for help, often from social media posts, then triage the severity of the need and what supplies should go on the flight, and then attempt to find that person in distress.
One of the biggest hurdles, McSwain says, is not having spots to land.
When we go to those GPS coordinates, we may not be able to land there.
It might be a mile, two miles on one side or the other just because we can't get to that distress call.
Tuesday, he says they plan to help with another major concern, shuttling in communication devices for first responders.
There's actual whole communities that are completely cut off from the grid.
We tried to establish communications with the local sheriff's department, the fire department.
There is no communications.
You know, what I'm seeing, I don't know about you, but I just see all of this.
The government, you know, blah, it's no good.
They're late. Everything's horrible.
They're doing this on purpose.
If it was a blue state, they'd be there in minutes.
You know, on and on and on and on.
And Of course, we're still dealing with the, oh, it's for the quartz.
It's for the lithium.
Well, you can drop that part of it, but the blue state thing, it is a blue state.
It's got a Democrat governor.
A lot of these people are black.
Asheville, North Carolina, one of the centers, is a lesbian stronghold of the South.
It's always referred to locally as She-Ville.
You take the A out of the name.
It's not Asheville. It's Sheville.
And so this is bull crap.
Well, besides that, I like, is it Hanlon's Razor, I think it is?
Hanlon's Razor. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.
Yeah, that's... And also, it doesn't help that the situation coming out of the White House from FEMA and from Majorca, who said, we're out of money, and then the denial that we're out of money, which I have two clips from John Pierre.
This has been floating around.
This is what she said in a press conference.
This is KJP this week.
This is categorically full.
No, Biden did not take female relief money to use on migrants.
And then here she is in 2022.
FEMA regional administrators have been meeting with city officials on site to coordinate available federal support from FEMA and other federal agencies.
Funding is also available through FEMA's emergency food and shelter program to eligible local governments and not-for-profit organizations upon request to support humanitarian relief for migrants.
Well, exactly. And this is kind of my point.
Our government is...
And that's all government. It's our government body, which people somehow in my lifetime have come to like, oh, something's wrong.
The cavalry's coming.
Yeah, the redneck Marine Corps is coming.
Your neighbors are coming.
People who, regardless of who you are, your background, your gender, sexuality, your religion, race, doesn't matter.
Your neighbors are coming. But stop waiting for the government because our government...
That's what... Our government is an administrative state filled with pencil pushes and PowerPoints.
Seriously. Well, in 89, it was pointed out like around here in the Bay Area when we had the 89 Loma Prieta earthquake and the freeway collapsed.
It was just all locals going out and rescuing people.
There was no time to wait.
The government, screw the government.
You got to go out and do what you do.
And there's all kinds of local heroes that pull people out of cars under a crushed overpass and all the rest.
And it was all just people doing what you could do to help your neighbor.
But really, we need to just come to grips with the fact that all government, especially state and federal emergency, are completely incompetent.
They have forgotten and forsaken their mission.
Media, of course, can't even cover this because, oh, don't let anybody catch on.
Specifically, North Carolina.
I remember when it came to gender-neutral bathrooms, we had a lot to say!
A lot going on.
That was during Obama.
It was mostly in North Carolina.
Yes, but when the rubber really meets the road, they have no clue on how to operate.
And, you know, people are even saying, you know, do you really want FEMA? Because here's how corrupt and nasty the system is.
You know, people are like, yo, they're stopping aid.
They're not letting us get through.
No, because if you, the minute FEMA comes into your state, they have their approved, their approved suppliers.
You know, which may be Walmart or whoever, I don't know.
They have their approved suppliers, and they cannot, by agreement, let any other supplies come in.
Because it's like, oh, money grab, just like where the money originally went to for asylum seekers, migrants, the newcomers.
That didn't even go to the government, it just went straight to non-profits.
Right? The non-profits where the executive director makes $700,000, $800,000 a year, that's your problem.
You've got to stop thinking that the government is going to do anything for you.
And do you really want them in?
Here's an example of why you might not want them in.
Are they still not there anywhere?
What are you seeing from FEMA in the federal response, if any?
I mean, they're present.
They're in the way. They are directly interrupting our ability to conduct missions and operations.
And I'm not going to disparage anybody because we are trying to work within partner relationships, both government and non-government entities within state and federal and county.
You know, I went to put a couple of people into a hotel last night, and they have a security guard at the hotel.
They said, oh, we're so sorry.
The entire hotel has been booked.
I have people that would just pull out of a mountain that are living out in the hills and there's not a place for me to put them because we have federal employees that are staying in the hotel.
I slept in this white car last night.
I smell like foot and death right now.
As does every single person on our team.
Not a single one of us slept.
We got done maybe at 3 o'clock the moment the sun was up and we could fly helicopters again.
We were back in the air and we have not stopped.
And I was like on the fence about trying to get on this program or not.
I want people to understand how incredible this organization is and Save Our Allies and all the work that all of these volunteers are doing.
But people, this is biblical level devastation.
This is apocalyptic, the things that we see out there.
Yeah, just you can't count on your government.
That's very tiring to see everybody running around like, oh, no good, and all political, no good.
I mean, even the KJP clips, I mean, it's all being politicized.
Well, there's thousands of dead people.
It's the good side of who we are as Americans and the bad side.
And by the way, this is not a once-ever occurrence.
This is the Tennessee Valley.
We have the Tennessee Valley Authority, which was brought in initially to also...
Work with, you know, create dams and make sure that there was not too much flooding.
You know, the big one was 1916 when this happened.
This exact same scenario happened and the city of Asheville was gone and I think the water level is only a few feet below what it was now.
This was quite incredible, the amount of water.
And then around 19...
I think 1971, there was...
Yes, there was a project to create a lake which was going to be called...
I'm trying to think what it was going to be called...
The French Broad River Valley.
So they wanted to make a lake.
The Tennessee Valley Authority wanted to, which would probably have stopped this from happening in Asheville.
But back then, there was this huge backlash because there were 60 families who were there and they didn't want, you know, to become part of the lake.
Well, okay, so you all made a decision and here you go.
That said, these hurricanes coming out of the Gulf, particularly the one now supposedly headed towards Florida, Tina lived in Florida for over 15 years.
She said she cannot remember a time when a hurricane was about to hit all of Florida that came out of the Gulf.
Can you? I don't keep track of that sort of thing.
It doesn't seem like it would be that unusual.
Yeah, apparently it is.
It is. Because, you know, this hurricane's happening all the time.
I mean, Katrina came out of the Gulf. Yeah, but that didn't hit Florida.
Well, Florida got affected.
Yeah, not like this one.
And there was that one just a couple years ago, that hurricane that went through Tampa.
Which one was that?
It was the one that hit that one town really bad, and they made a big fuss about it.
And Tampa was hit pretty hard, and that came out of the Gulf.
Were the fish flopping in the street?
Always, always. Well, I haven't heard much climate change yet, although I'm sure it's coming.
We're all crazy. Climate change is doing this.
Somebody brought up the fact that a lot of this moisture may have been caused by an underwater volcano some, like a year, like 22, I think, and it put a bunch of moisture in the air that had to come out eventually.
Well... There's plenty of government projects that go way back that have tried to steer hurricanes.
I think it was in 1963 or something.
Was Eisenhower president?
No, that was Kennedy. No.
It must have been earlier.
It must have been earlier.
And so they would drop silver iodine into the hurricane.
Iodide. They would drop that into the hurricane and then they could steer it, but it also, of course, created an enormous amount of water, which is what we saw here.
You know, how would that mechanism work, steering it with silver iodine?
I'm just telling you what the report was.
I remember the time in probably the 60s or 70s where they said, well, if it's really bad, we can drop a nuke on the thing and knock it out.
How come we haven't tried that one?
I've heard it on this show from you.
I've never, I don't think they ever, they should try it, man.
Come on, give it a shot. Of course, the real issue at hand is this.
As Western North Carolina recovers from devastating flood damage following Hurricane Helene, election officials are scrambling to prepare for early voting.
North Carolina is, of course, a key swing state that could very well decide next month's presidential election.
Steve Harrison from Member Station WFAE in Charlotte has been covering this and joins us now.
Hey, Steve. Hey, Scott.
Early voting begins in North Carolina on October 17th, a little more than two weeks from today.
Do state elections officials think they'll be ready?
Yeah, I mean, they're confident it will begin on time in all counties, but they can't really say what voting will look like.
As of this morning, there are still 10 county elections board offices that haven't reopened.
That means they can't process new registrations.
They can't send out or receive mail ballots.
I mean, you have to imagine that voting sites were just overwhelmed by the flooding.
How bad is the damage? Are they unusable?
Yes. Karen Brinson Bell, the executive director of the State Board of Elections, said some of those voting sites may be impossible to reach, for now at least, because of mudslides and downed trees.
And in some cases, roads may be completely washed away.
Brinson Bell said the state has had experience running elections after hurricanes.
After Hurricane Dorian hit North Carolina in 2019, She said the board used a tent and trailers for voting in Hyde County, which is on the coast, and that may happen again.
The state hopes to know by the end of this week what voting sites can be used and which ones can't.
We'll have to see how that affects this important swing state.
Well, I have a series of clips on voting.
If you're going to talk about voting, early voting in particular.
Yeah, I would just say...
I think it's great what the citizens of North Carolina have done, and of course also in Florida.
Except for the grousing. But the grousing, you know, I had boots on the ground, RVG Truth on the X. I know his hombre, and this guy, he goes everywhere.
He was at the border for months, and then, oh, he just drives up, and then he's in North Carolina.
And he says, you know, the people are actually getting it together, and if anything, all the social media stuff, all of it, he says, sucks.
It sucks for the people there.
Well, I would say also, I think the media coverage sucks, too.
It's completely...
I mean, I was texting with Chris...
They're sensationalizing, as usual.
Gee, I'm shocked, shocked that they're sensationalizing the news.
What's interesting, though, is that in Europe, no one even knows this is happening.
It's almost not covered.
It's like, eh, whatever. I've seen some reports, but it's covered like straight news, just a mention.
Yeah. You know, there's much more important things.
You know, like Iran and Ukraine.
Money. Money.
Well, universally people have an issue with all the money being spent on other countries.
I think that's now almost a bipartisan issue or nonpartisan.
Let's play these clips.
This is early voting.
This is all from NPR. It's a long report.
I got, I think, four clips here.
They're not long. But this is about early voting, and there's a bunch of subtle propaganda in here, as usual, as you would expect from NPR. Elitist voices of America.
This is NPR or PBS. Election Day is a month away and early voting is already happening.
More than a million votes have already been cast with more coming every day.
Miles Parks is our voting correspondent.
He covers the topic 365 days a year.
What, a voting correspondent who has a- Yeah, and did you hear what he does?
He covers the topic every day of the year.
Every day of the year. Every year, but right now is the moment when all of the storylines he's following rise to the top of everyone else's minds as well.
That is especially true given how much the attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election results hangs over everything in this contest.
Yeah. So given all that, we brought Miles on to talk to us about what he is focusing on.
Hey, Miles. Hey, Scott. Hey, Miles.
Hey, Scott.
Let's start with the lawsuits, because many are already being filed.
What do we need to know? Yeah, so there's kind of two major buckets I think voters can kind of monitor lawsuits over the next couple weeks.
One is about how people actually gonna be casting ballots.
The two big kind of things we're watching that still have yet to be determined,
one is in Pennsylvania, big battleground state as you know, where there's a big legal battle brewing
over when people turn in a mail ballot and there's some sort of mistake on it,
whether that's they didn't put in the right envelope or put the wrong date on it,
whether those ballots should count.
Republicans argue they should not, Democrats argue they should.
In Georgia, we're monitoring lawsuits related to the administration,
the actual counting of ballots.
Listeners are probably familiar, The Georgia Elections Board has passed a number of new rules in recent weeks, and there's a bunch of litigation deciding whether those new rules should stand.
Oh, yeah. This is all pro-Trump changes, if I recall correctly.
So that, of course, is a problem.
No, no. No, I thought they were.
The Georgia thing is, what's pro-Trump about Georgia?
And they never say this.
They never tell you any of this.
They just say, well, blah, blah, blah.
They don't mention what it is?
They never say what it is, but the Georgia thing is they're going to hand count all the ballast to make sure that the machine count matches.
Right, that would be a pro-Trump thing.
So how's that anything pro-Trump?
Because Republicans hate the machines.
Yeah, unless they're Diebold.
Well, no. Okay.
So the other, which doesn't do them anymore, of course, those are the George Bush machines.
Yeah. And the other thing about the ballot being in the wrong envelope, have you ever mailed in and it comes with an envelope?
It just doesn't make any sense.
What, are you stuffing it in some rando envelope?
I don't know. Okay.
Hold on, before you continue.
Just about this specifically, Tina went to see the new D'Souza movie, which is vindicating Trump.
Yeah. Dinesh D'Souza.
Where do you go see a movie like that?
It's in the theater. She and her friend...
It's actually in the theater. She and her friend were the only two...
Well, granted it was 1130 in the morning, but yeah, still vindicating Trump.
And she said, of course, it's a complete, you know, it's all pro-Trump, pro-Trump.
But what DeSouza apparently shows there is how you can, for like 35 bucks, you can buy the voter roll.
And then you could just print all the ballots you want.
Our voting system is very simplistic.
It seems rather easy to jack around with.
And if you're first, before the actual person gets to the ballot, and it's like, hey, wait a minute, you already voted, then that's just one of the many ways to cheat.
No one trusts this anymore.
It's because it's poorly operated.
No kidding. Everyone's been so lax about assuming it's fine that they just let it slide.
This is ridiculous. Well, remember, the term is no widespread fraud.
Oh, that's coming in these clips.
Okay. Okay, so that's bucket one, the process of voting itself.
What about the second? The second is we've seen a bunch of lawsuits.
This happened in 2020 as well.
The Republicans have been filing a number of lawsuits that legal experts basically say have no shot at succeeding, but just serve to kind of inject doubts about the process.
These are generally been lawsuits focusing on the idea of non-citizens voting in American elections.
This is not an issue that there is Let's talk more about that because this is something you've reported on a lot, this narrative of non-citizens casting ballots.
There's been a pivot from whether it's Donald Trump, Elon Musk, a number of prominent figures on the far right to start talking over the last few months about non-citizens voting in this election, and it seems to be working.
We had a poll out from NPR, PBS News, Marist College out this week that found that nine in ten Republicans are concerned that non-citizens will vote in this elections process, which you can kind of see down the road how this could make it an effective narrative should Trump lose that he could focus on to try to overturn this election.
Oh, here we go again.
There's some truth to that.
You know, I have a 38-second clip.
Can I insert that?
Yeah, I think so. This is from Arizona.
Now, this new data set, as they're calling it, brings the total number of people impacted to 218,000 instead of the 98,000 we first reported.
These people were mistakenly marked as having provided documentary proof of citizenship.
And Arizona Voter Registration Database now has correctly flagged the impacted individuals, election officials, Say they will contact the affected Arizonans with information regarding their status after the general election.
That means for now, the Arizona Supreme Court's ruling is going to stay that impacted voters, that includes all of them, will still be able to vote.
Yeah, you get to vote. No problem.
Can they go back later?
Is this going to be the big dispute?
Well, it was 218,000.
We got to call every single one of them.
Ask for the ID. Oh, man.
Yeah, and we still can't put someone on the moon.
What good are we?
I'm very down on all this.
And the idea that, I mean, the way they downplay the possibility of someone, I mean, like here, I've said it before, I go to vote, I go in person, I have voted by mail too, I do both.
So you vote twice?
You vote twice?
I could. You said I'd do both, so I'm just...
I could. But I'd only do one.
You're not helping the cause, man.
In California, it doesn't make any difference.
So I wanted to go in to use the machines so I could see what was going on with the machines.
Yeah, you talked about this.
Yes, I did. I made a long talk about it.
But I noticed they never asked for ID. Never.
Never have ever asked for ID. It's not as though they're asking for ID, and now it's illegal in California to ask for ID. Although you have to ask for ID for liquor and all the rest of it, but no, no.
Voting, forget it. No, it's not that important.
It's just not that important. It's harder to get out of jury duty, which is the other side of voting as far as I'm concerned.
Like, oh man, I want to get out of jury duty.
Don't need an ID to vote.
So here we go, three. Let's talk about another impact over the ongoing rhetoric around the 2020 election, the ongoing claims that Trump won the election, which again, he did not.
He lost the election. But we have seen this real uptick in harassment and threats to local election officials.
I have not actually seen any of this.
Is there an actual report of someone being threatened?
There have been reports.
It stems from the 2020 election and the Georgia people who were threatened after the fact.
And I don't know that it's happening in real time.
But I haven't seen any reports of someone saying, that guy threatened me!
This is rhetoric here.
This is rhetoric. I think you're right.
I've spent a lot of time talking to.
What are you hearing from them in terms of the threats coming in and how they're preparing for a really tense few weeks?
There's a lot of nervousness when I talk to election officials the last couple weeks.
Where's the interview?
The reason is, going back to this poll I mentioned a second ago, the poll found that a majority
of Americans right now are concerned that voter fraud is going to occur in this 2024
election, even though there's never been evidence of widespread or systematic fraud, widespread
or systematic fraud in American elections, especially recently.
You don't need widespread fraud.
You only need a couple of states.
Exactly. That's the beauty of it.
That's the point of saying, yeah, you don't have widespread, you have targeted.
Yeah, exactly. Can you swap out the word widespread for targeted fraud?
They won't do it.
Yeah. Because that's all you need with the Electoral College.
That's how it works. You need a couple of swings.
Yeah, targeted fraud. Yeah, and one way to do that...
And Arizona, by the way, was one of the targets.
Yes. It's fairly obvious.
It keeps coming up. Information keeps coming to light.
And who targeted?
Who was the first to target Arizona?
Fox News. They called Arizona when there was 1% of the votes were in.
Fox News.
That's a good point. Yeah, Fox News definitely.
And I would pay attention to Fox News this time around as well.
These people, the media chooses who wins in our country.
I'm staking my reputation on it.
Yeah. Alright, last clip.
The fact that election officials have spent the last four years trying to educate voters on all the myriad security processes they have in place that make it so fraud is so rare and especially hard to pull off at like a statewide or a federal race, right?
What's with all the laugh tales, bro?
That make it so fraud is so rare and especially hard to pull off at like a statewide or a
federal race, right?
They've been trying to educate voters, and it's just not really clear it's made a dent
because Donald Trump and other Republicans have continued hammering this issue.
Though I will say election officials are optimistic that they're in a better position to respond
to some of those doubts this time around.
Specifically, they're working closer than they ever have before with law enforcement,
whether that's around polling places or certificates.
of the implications thinking about after the election.
And so I think election officials are a little bit dejected at the tone and tenor in which some voters
are thinking about the election this time around, but they're feeling definitely better prepared for it.
Yeah.
What are you anticipating when it comes to how people cast their votes?
Are you anticipating less early voting, mail-in voting, the 2020, or what?
Based on the conversations I've had, both with experts and some poll results that we've seen,
it seems like the trend towards early voting is continuing.
If you actually zoom out and look at, think about in 2000 or 2004, almost all voters,
more than 80% of voters cast their ballot in person on election day, right?
Whereas now there is the expectation that the majority of voters will vote early
in this election, whether that's early in person or by mail.
It is not a kind of height of the pandemic moment.
So we are definitely going to see less mail voting than we saw in 2020.
But I think the majority of votes in this election cycle, probably in the 55 to 60 percent range, are going to be cast early this time.
Two things that have to be pointed out.
Yes. And I could have gone back and found the super clip of this, but there was a super clip floating around.
From 2016, where all the Democrats are talking about a fraudulent vote and Trump was not my president.
He got in, you know, and Hillary was the leader of the gang of this.
Oh, we got gypped.
You know, it was a fraud.
It was a fake. It was a phony.
So the Democrats are just as guilty of this complaining as anybody.
But all of a sudden, that seems to have disappeared.
And then the other thing is the Democrats, once again, back in, I don't know, the 80s, maybe the 70s, they put together a big panel showing how...
A study group showing how mail-in ballots are so easy to phony up and to make the election fraudulent.
And there's mostly Democrats on this panel.
And it came out and they used to talk about this.
This was discussed during the 2016 election when they thought Trump stole the election.
And now that's not being discussed anymore either.
These guys are terrible at journalism.
No, they're doing, they're fantastic.
They're doing their actual job to make the donors to NPR happy.
Well, that brings me, I didn't want to do this.
Yes, okay.
But that brings me to the two clips.
Okay, you're up.
Actually three clips, but there's two main ones, which is the ambush clips, and I took this from Megyn Kelly's show.
Oh, wow, you're watching Megyn Kelly now?
It was the clips that showed up, and since I was stealing the clips from her show, I might as well let her also introduce the clips.
And these are some, James O'Keefe found some, had one of his women.
You've seen this. By the way, this is the best example of the culture war economy.
This is how we all make money now.
We've got to be all outraged, and we've got undercover video, and we're all mad about it, it's crazy.
It is pretty funny in that regard.
If you want from that perspective, definitely.
But this poor doofus sounds pretty...
I guess O'Keefe's got a couple of women on the payroll.
Of course, honeypotting these guys, right?
Honeypots is what we used to call it in the business.
It's beautiful. Yes.
And so they got this poor sucker from MSNBC. One of the producers, these are the guys, if you do any hits on any of these shows, if you're in that, if you're doing spots, it's the producers who call you.
They're the ones who book you. They do all the work.
And do the pre-interview and make sure that you know exactly what you're going to say so they know it, so they can do the lead-in, they can time it perfectly, and you're good to go.
Yeah, and so they can also write the copy for the newsreader.
Yes. So everything works smoothly.
It's just the way it is.
And so here's some dumb schlub who's named by Megan in the second clip getting honey-potted into stupidity.
All knew this about MSNBC, but it's still interesting to hear a producer at the network admit it, saying the following.
Watch. So do you feel like MSNBC is doing enough to help The Harris campaign.
I mean, they're doing all they can.
Which is why. Amplify her message.
What her message of the day is, is their message of this.
It hammers home the point that I'm making, that this news network is indistinguishable from the party.
Are they just the Democratic Party's mouthpiece?
Exactly. MSNBC is the Democratic Party's mouthpiece.
He kind of says it a bit with disdain.
He even finds it somewhat disgusting.
Or am I mishearing that?
You know, he's got a smile on his face, so I'm not sure that's true.
But I think he's smiling at her, and he's going along, and she's asking leading questions.
If you're on a date, drinking, and some girl's leading you on with these sorts of incriminating questions.
How hard up for a date are you that you're going to let this...
Try shutting up.
Come on, don't you...
Oh, man, yeah, it's crazy.
Yes. She's even asking the questions like an interviewer.
How can this guy not know what's going on?
Yes. They've made their viewers dumber over the years.
Viewers get mad at the guests or the hosts if the hosts were to criticize Democrats.
Because they're so brainwashed.
Yes. And just thinking that the Democratic Party can do no wrong.
Not that they can't do any wrong.
Maybe they can do wrong.
I just don't want to hear about it.
Don't say it out loud.
Because if you say it out loud, it helps Trump.
I think brainwashing and dumbing down.
It's bad. I get it.
Helps Trump. You know, what I think I'm hearing from him...
Is that he finds it all despicable.
He probably thinks Kamala Harris is dumb.
But the brainwashing has taken place in him that, oh no, Trump's going to get rid of the Constitution.
He's going to get rid of our democracy.
I think that's what I'm hearing.
You know, it's like, uh, you know, he's going to rip up the Constitution on day one.
He's going to be a dictator from day one.
All of these things has seeped into his brain and he just believes it.
Yeah, it could be.
I mean, I'm not sure.
He's talking too much about it.
And, you know, if you're going to be sneaky like this guy or like the whole network, I mean, it's the kind of thing you'd be a little more, I think...
Well, it's not sneaky.
Then again, wait, wait, let me correct myself.
It's possible that they're not being, you know, they are brainwashing and dumbing down the public, but they think they're doing it for a good cause.
For America! Yeah, for America.
For America. For America, baby.
Yeah, I can't argue against that possibility.
Because it's always been my argument, which is that sincerity on the part of these people is quite high.
Well, they are also, they are by extension, part of the entire administrative state.
They also feel like they're part of it.
They're in D.C. They're going to the same parties.
They're hanging out with the same people.
They have a little bit of power because, oh, I'm on TV. Oh, you're important.
From time to time, give me your cell number.
I can give you a call when I hear something.
Of course, I'm going to be leaking on purposely to you, but it might be inside track.
It'll make you look good. They're a part of that system.
Is it 4 million people that work for all administrative agencies?
I think it's higher than that.
To coin a Mike Benz phrase, it's the blob, and they are part of the blob, and they feel that they're an important part of it.
So this has nothing to do with journalism.
No, I'm sorry. It does.
This is what they're taught in journalism school.
Nowadays, J school.
Yes. And look at the professor.
Jeff Jarvis.
No, not Jeff Jarvis. The other guy.
Who's the professor?
Rosen? Rosen?
Yeah, Jay Rosen. Jay Rosen.
Well, Jarvis and Rosen are very similar.
I think Jarvis has been...
Same guy. I don't know if he's...
What? They're the same guy, basically.
Yeah, it's basically the same guy.
And they're out there teaching and also yelling, because I followed them, I think they're on Mastodon.
Like, oh, the New York Times, dude, they put this Trump travesty on page nine.
Why? Why?
Why? I read this stuff once in a while.
It's just kind of, it's knee-jerk.
Yeah, well, they're disappointed in the New York Times because the New York Times didn't call them out.
Then there must be reasons for that too.
There's a very strong movement amongst supposed journalists who slant the news and they talk about it openly.
After you're done with these MSNBC clips, the rest of this is Megan and her friend that's on the show mocking the whole thing.
And I kept these two clips because I thought it was good enough that it would be worth a listen.
Poor Basil Hamden.
Pro tip. When your date sounds more like the inquisitor at a deposition and has her handbag pointed at you just so and asks you to speak into it.
A note of caution before you offer your unvarnished thoughts.
It was unbelievable. And would you say, yes I would.
Can we do pro tip of the day?
We should get on that train.
Pro tip. And don't drink.
Like, don't get so, you know, fuzzy that you're sort of like spouting proudly what you're doing.
I mean, my favorite part of that clip, Megan, is when he says we're dumbing our audience down.
Like, this is the viewership that likes to feel like they're so high on their own supply of like moral self-righteousness.
Pot, kettle, black, hello?
And that every political position that's espoused by this network is the only- Seriously, that's exactly what Megyn Kelly does, is exactly the same thing, only she's a podcaster.
Only true and correct one.
And he's basically saying, we've dumbed them down and we've brainwashed them and it's good for us and it's, you know, like, let's just not get Trump elected.
It's amazing. And the way he's smiling, he's like, he thinks it's funny.
He's kind of proud of it, it seems like.
I mean, I could watch that thing on a loop.
It's amazing. This is all I could think of.
A couple of months ago when they were all indignant about Ronna McDaniel being hired as a contributor after she left the RNC and they acted like the devil himself had been under contract now to MS. They all went on the air trying to get her fired, which was ultimately successful.
Talking about themselves and their network like they were honest Abe themselves.
You know, like George Washington, we cannot tell a lie here at MSM. We could not possibly hire someone who lies for pay.
Remember, we cut this soundbite and I resurrected here.
You know, the thing that gets me is that in this culture war economy, Megyn Kelly on the front lines, if she would talk about something else...
Anything. But playing MSNBC clips and the outrage, then no one would see it.
It's because of this...
Yeah, it's like a log rolling.
Yes, it's like...
It's culture log rolling.
Postmodern of log rolling.
It is. Yeah, because it's like, hey, go watch MSNBC. Wait a minute.
What? Yeah, exactly.
Oh, wait, you don't have to. I'll play a clip.
So here's the clip she plays, which I thought was a good clip because it was, we played this clip before, but I like it because the very last thing that's said on the clip is it makes it worth playing again.
I want to associate myself with all my colleagues, both at MSNBC and at NBC News, who have voiced loud and principled objections to our company putting on the payroll someone who hasn't just attacked us as journalists, but But someone who is part of an ongoing project to get rid of our system of government.
We weren't asked our opinion of the hiring, but if we were, we would have strongly objected to it.
When NBC made the decision to give her NBC News' credibility, you gotta ask yourself, what does she bring NBC News?
We welcome Republicans.
I wish more Republicans. I want Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney to get right here and come talk to me.
The reality is, this isn't a difference of opinion.
She literally backed an illegal scheme to steal an election in the state of Michigan.
And our democracy is in danger because of the lies that people like Ronna McDaniel have pushed on this country.
She also said election deniers, not just they can do that on our airwaves, but that they can do that as one of us, as badge-carrying employees of NBC News, as paid contributors to our sacred airwaves.
Oh yeah, that was a good...
Sacred airwaves.
Sacred airwaves.
And of course, we're also participating in this scandalous behavior.
Yeah, no, we're log rolling.
We are log rolling.
And we don't get any rollback.
They don't have to plug us.
There's no backlinks, man.
No pingbacks. No pingbacks.
I should probably stop doing these clips.
Yes. Well, if we stop doing these clips, there'd be no show.
Except we just make fun of everybody.
Those clips, I just played those three clips of Meg and the guy.
If I took those out of the show, there would still be a show.
Yeah, okay. It would be three minutes shorter.
It would be three minutes shorter.
That's about the difference. Which is probably good.
Here's the term. Here's the term.
The term, and just as we were talking about with Rosen and Jarvis, the term is sane washing.
Yes, we have a term over here at CNN. Yeah.
There's a new word being used in this campaign, or at least new to me, sane-washing.
And that's the notion that the media, actually contrary to what Raihan said, the media is cleaning up some of Trump's more outlandish remarks.
For instance, here's Trump this week talking about a person in this country illegally who killed someone.
She murdered him. In my opinion, Kamala murdered him, just like she did, just like she had a gun in her hand.
But here was the AP headline about the speech.
Trump rallies in Wisconsin's critical Democratic stronghold ahead of the vice presidential debate.
No mention of Trump accusing his opponent, Vice President Harris, of in effect murder.
Oh no! What?
Oh yeah, yeah.
Now you're bordering on making that clip.
Well, there's another one.
We should talk about insane.
This should be insane-washing.
Here's the second half.
Is the media sane-washing some of Trump's comments?
I think it is the role of the media to report on what happens.
I do not think it is the role of the media to tell people how they should feel about it.
And I think right now there is a lot of befuddlement on the part of people who don't like Donald Trump that anybody could possibly want to see Donald Trump back in the White House.
And so they're looking for reasons to say, well, gosh, maybe it's just that the 47 percent of America that likes Donald Trump and wants to vote for him again is just they've become immune to the idea that he's crazy.
And it's the media's fault. But it is really that a lot of Americans have just decided, you know what, I'm willing to take the good with the bad.
And for them, they think no amount of crazy is too much.
So wait. So Trump in his speech delivers what's more or less a metaphor by making the claim that Kamala's the murderer for letting a murderer murder.
Yeah, it's very similar to Trump incited an insurrection.
Kind of the same thing.
Yeah, so that is somehow...
It should be reported. I don't understand what they're trying to tell us here.
They're trying to get a word into the dictionary so they can say, well, we did it!
It's word of the year.
Well, by the way, that's a very important thing.
I've always... That's been one of my goals.
Is that one of your goals? Yeah.
Yeah, everyone who's ever been a writer always has that.
Well, we just might get douchebag.
Oh, douchebag's already in there, I'm sure.
Douchebag's in there. Douchebag's in there.
Is there any word that we can promote to get into the dictionary?
We have to look. We have some.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything.
I know we've got some. We've got some.
So, sane wash this.
Trump did a return to Butler, Pennsylvania.
Big crowd. What I could see.
I don't know how many people. A big crowd.
There was a couple of clips showing it was a big crowd.
It was a big crowd. And brings out Elon Musk.
Yeah. Who is jumping around like a maniac.
He's like a spaz in some way.
Like a spaz.
And here was the core of what he said.
For tech billionaire Elon Musk, it was the first appearance at a Trump rally.
Yeah! He urged listeners to tell everyone they knew to register to vote and framed the election as a last stand for American democracy.
What's this dark MAGA nonsense?
What is that? I don't know if he said dark or Darth.
No, I think he said dark.
Well, if he said dark or Darth, that's because he had a black MAGA hat on.
Oh, okay. And it said it was a black hat, and in black threads it said Make America Great Again.
No, I think he said dork MAGA. And then he had a shirt on that said Occupy Mars.
Yeah, okay.
He's being himself.
But I like the hat. No, I don't like the hat because it's off-brand.
I like the hat. You cannot like that.
I like the hat. It's off-brand.
Well, it is off-brand, but this reminds me of years ago, I went to a...
A Raider-Kansas City game.
And because the Raider fans are kind of insane and they would beat you up if you were like wearing Kansas City colors at a game like this.
And so I was sitting next to somebody and he had the black Raider colors, but on the Raiders...
Sweater, shirt, sweatshirt.
It was actually said Kansas City Chiefs in the greater colors.
And it was very cute.
And I said, that's a great idea.
He says, you better believe it.
You have to be careful around here.
So that's what he was doing with the black hat.
I equated it with that sort of thinking.
Okay, well, back to Dork Maga.
And frame the election as a last stand for American democracy.
I'm not just Maga, I'm Dork Maga.
Text people now!
Now! And then make sure they actually do vote.
If they don't, This will be the last election.
That's my prediction.
Nothing's more important. This last election thing?
Yeah, it's getting on my nerves, too.
Yeah, well, so in my general sphere, we have a family member who exclusively watches MSNBC. He's completely...
No, it's okay, because we all love each other, and we could just say, we're not going to talk politics.
And completely believes that Trump will destroy the Constitution, rip it up, that he's going to do away with democracy.
There will be no elections.
So this is now playing on both sides.
As an aside, from the circles here in the Hill Country, I can tell you the latest meme is there's not going to be an election this year because they're going to bring down the grid.
I know. And this spreads.
This is getting better by the minute.
This spreads like, and people are asking me, should I get a sat phone?
So who are you going to call?
If the grid is down, who are you going to call?
Yeah, who are you going to call unless you have a...
Did you tell him to get a ham radio?
You know, I have received multiple inquiries from people about ham radios.
Yeah, I have too. I was like, hey, what should I get?
I said, first you need a license.
I never thought about that, yeah.
You need a license.
Go get a license. Get that first.
Everybody knows, to get your technician's ham radio operator license is incredibly simple.
You go to ARRL.org.
You look for technician's license.
And you'll find out where the test is usually done once a month in your area.
It's going to be a bunch of hams who administer the test.
I think they're called VAs.
And they give you the exact questions for that month's test with all the answers and multiple choice.
The only thing is the answers will be in a different order on the test.
Well, there'll also be different questions.
No. Yes.
But you get all the questions.
No, all the questions are there.
Yeah, but they may omit some.
Just as an example, say, for example, that Tess has 100 questions.
They'll give you 150 questions with all the answers and questions.
And if you can remember all of those, you can take the test and easily pass it.
Yes, correct. You don't get all of them.
That's right. But you get all of them on the test.
Yeah, you get all of them.
On the sample.
There's no surprise questions.
No, no. Like you get at the DMV. And here's an example of a question.
Should you think about putting an antenna up during a lightning storm?
I think that was one of the questions.
I don't remember that. I think it was one of the questions.
Maybe for Texas.
But it really is quite simple.
And then you can get a Baofeng or any of these radios.
And you can do quite a lot with that.
I would say, by the way, if you're a computer guy, and a lot of our audience are dudes named Ben, you already know the answers to most of these questions because a lot of them are just technical questions that you would know normally in your day-to-day life.
Yeah. And so then all you need to figure out is how a repeater works.
That's what saved lives in North Carolina.
And what I would recommend for the computer guys and gals is learn how to use one of these digital programs.
Because with very, very low output and a wire hung up in a tree, you can actually get a lot done.
Just don't put the wire up during an electrical storm.
That's answer D on question 79.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yes, people have to realize that there are online tests, and you go to one of those.
Don't read the long book.
There's like, I think AARL has this.
Oh, God, no. A giant book that you're supposed to read.
Don't read the book.
Mm-mm. Go to one of the online...
This is like tip of the day.
Go to one of the online Q&As, and they'll give you this month's or this quarter's questions, and one after the other, after the other, and then it gives you a grade, and you keep taking the test over and over and over again.
You can take it maybe five or six.
You can take it as many times as you want, but after about the fourth time, you'll get...
You'll get it. More than your passing grade.
And then you can go take the test and you'll just pass.
Yeah. And do it now.
Don't wait. Do it now.
Yes, do it now. I agree.
Have you renewed your license?
Yeah, I renewed it months and months ago.
Oh, good. Oh, good. I just want to make sure.
No, I told people to remind me, and I did it.
And there was something, I had a story about it, too.
There was some screwy thing about it, renewing.
Oh, really? Yeah, I talked about it on the show, and I can't remember what it was, but there was some, I thought it was like, well, this doesn't make any sense, but okay.
Oh, did they charge you more money?
No, I don't even think it was, I think it was all, it may have been free, but there was some mishap that was involved, and irksome.
While we're kind of on, although we've moved off a little bit, about social media, I'm not quite sure what Hillary Clinton was doing.
First of all, she was on Smirconish.
Smirconish. And I guess she's plugging her book.
Smirconish. You know, CNN, Smirconish.
This is supposed to be kind of, I don't know, Smirconish.
He's a douche. Smirconish.
And I think this is a message to the social media companies.
I'm not quite sure.
It's like a pressure campaign.
It has to have something to do with the elections.
Otherwise, why would you even be interviewed?
So it's about kids and social media.
As you rightly point out, Michael, in the book I write about how I don't think our kids are all right.
Because I think... They've become addicted to social media.
I think the phones in their pockets or their purses have a huge impact on how they spend their time, whether they interact with other people.
And now we know that very often kids are affected by anxiety or depression or, you know, all kinds of problems that are at least connected to, if not caused, by this addiction to the screen.
Yeah. So, I was happy to see you cite the work of Robert Putnam.
Bowling alone made an impact on me.
The discussion of social capital of the sort that I'm sure the Roddams enjoyed in Park Ridge, right?
Participation, belonging, volunteerism.
What does he mean by that?
The Roddams enjoyed in Park Ridge?
What is that? Is that where she grew up in Park Ridge?
You got me.
All I know is that there's nothing wrong with bowling alone if you're a bowler.
Okay. That is so missing today.
You've got to practice somehow. You cite Jonathan Haidt.
You cite Gene Twange.
Here's what disappoints me, and it's not about you, Madam Secretary.
I'm shocked that no person, no Republican, no Democrat, is championing this issue.
The social science is so clear.
The political science is so clear.
Our fabric has frayed as a nation.
Our kids are disconnected.
Too much time behind closed doors, on devices, and not enough time replicating the experience of their parents and grandparents.
Okay, so that's kind of the setup, but then she hammers it home, and here, I think, is the threat.
You're absolutely right.
This should be at the top of every legislative political agenda.
There should be a lot of things done.
That's interesting. Legislative political agenda.
Not legislative health agenda.
Legislative political agenda.
Oh, that's an interesting catch.
Yeah, and I just heard this now.
Oh, wait a minute.
You don't actually care about the kids unless they're voting, which they're too young for.
You're absolutely right.
This should be at the top of every legislative political agenda.
There should be a lot of things done.
We should be, in my view, repealing something called Section 230, which gave, you know, platforms on the Internet.
Hold on a second. Stop and back it up.
The, because of what you just caught, uh, The Democrats have captured the educational system of primary education, secondary education, and colleges as brainwashing tools for political purposes.
They lost this one and now this is what she's really talking about.
This is an element of control that they don't have control of and they lost it.
And this is where she's all freaked out.
Something called Section 230, which gave, you know, platforms on the Internet immunity because they were thought to be just pass-throughs, that they shouldn't be judged for the content that is posted.
But we now know that that was an overly simple view, that if the platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter X or...
Notice Facebook comes first because, you know, Zuckerberg is now turned into a bro.
You see Zuckerberg, he's got his hairs all long.
He no longer has that Caesar, that dorky Caesar cut.
He's got long bro hair.
He's doing taekwondo.
He's talking like ketamine to me.
...view that if the platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter X or Instagram or TikTok,
whatever they are, if they don't moderate and monitor the content, we lose total control.
And it's not just social and psychological effects.
It's real harm.
It's, you know, child porn and threats of violence.
We lose total control.
It's not that we're losing control.
The way she phrases it, we lose total control, because right now they have total control over the mechanism of information exchange.
Yes, yes, exactly.
So we're losing our total, she should have said our, we're losing total control, should be we're losing our total control over the information flow.
She's freaked out about it.
Yes, yes. And mainly about Zuckerberg.
We lose total control, and it's not just the social and psychological effects.
It's real harm. It's, you know, child porn and threats of violence, things that are terribly dangerous.
So I couldn't agree with you more.
We need to remove the immunity from liability, and we need to have guardrails.
We need regulations. We need to remove the immunity from liability.
Okay, so they can be li- Okay, now I understand what she's saying.
By the way, I've been on Twitter since, I don't know, 2007 or something like that forever.
You're OG. I'm an OG. Close to it.
I have never seen child porn- On Twitter ever.
I've never seen it on Instagram.
I've never seen it on Facebook.
I don't have a Facebook account, but I can sneak on there sometimes.
Or somebody else's account.
And I've never seen it.
I don't know what she's talking about.
Frazzledrip. I couldn't agree with you more.
We need to remove the immunity from liability and we need to have guardrails.
We need regulation.
We've conducted this big experiment on ourselves and particularly our kids and I think the evidence is in that we've got to do more.
Yeah, we got to do more.
NPR had a very short clip here as it pertains to social media.
Another new term.
Researchers have found a phenomenon called belief regression.
It's when a correction to misinformation works really well in the short term.
But over time...
People's belief kind of creeps towards these pre-correction levels.
And what we found is it's mostly down to memory.
So it's worth repeating that corrections to misinformation are worth repeating.
NPR. All of them.
Hammer them. Hammer them again.
All of them. All of them.
Wow. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, well.
It's all kind of fun.
This whole game is fun.
For the show? For the show, it's great fun.
I got a boots on the ground from Dame Aquamarine.
And she says, you know, I'm an avid reader who's been reading popular fiction and been a member of book clubs in two different states in both public library and private groups for over 10 years.
I hate to say it, but I believe that she says the Norman Lear Foundation, but it could be in any...
Well, actually, I said I would read this because you would be able to explain it better because it's about publishing.
The Norman Lear Foundation has infiltrated popular literature in the offices of the editors and the offices of the booksellers.
Examples below. It used to be that a book might contain characters or situations that were thought-provoking and would add to the story.
Now the subjects seem to be added for no real reason other than to mention them.
The Hunting Party by Lisa Foley.
Climate change mentioned often, and I mean often.
I get it. It's hot and dry in Ireland in the summer.
The Measure by Nikki Elricht.
A lot is made of the lesbian relationship between two of the main characters.
It was not just a mention of the relationship, but discussing the relationship over and over again.
Also, climate change and interracial relationships.
And my favorite, she says, Mad Honey by Jodi Pikul and Jennifer Finney Boylan.
I could only get through 150 pages.
And in that 150 pages, the following subjects were included in the story.
Suicide, domestic abuse, anger management, climate change, transgenderism, gender reassignment at a young age, interracial marriage, lesbianism, gay marriage, police oppression of blacks, and alcoholism.
I used to enjoy Jodi Picoult as an author and enjoyed many of her previous books.
They were formulaic, but they were enjoyable.
During this book, I felt lectured constantly, especially if I didn't agree.
It was frustrating to me, a no-agenda listener, to hear how other readers felt for the author's views.
I was in the lone voice when I brought up the sterilization of long-term mental health outcomes.
So I said, you know, John would know what's wrong with the publishing industry.
Well, there's not much to it.
It's just the people who people it.
They're not well paid.
And so it's like journalists.
You have a low paid crowd that is a very socialist because they want more money.
And they promote these ideas.
And there's a group thing.
The whole publishing company is probably turned woke.
I was going to say, how many publishing companies are there?
There's about a hundred, I guess.
Are all of them woke? I think most of them are now.
Nowadays, yeah. It's the same as the newspapers.
Oh, yeah. The newspapers are...
There's no difference.
The newspapers are a publishing company, only they do a different type of publishing.
They publish a daily. Yeah.
A daily tome.
I mean, if you look at a newspaper, the thing's the size of a book often, if you put it and made it into pages.
Yeah. So they're publishing books, too, in terms of volume of words.
And... Yeah, they're all woke.
It's because the low pay, I think, has a lot to do with it.
They tend to be unionized, the newspapers for sure.
Yeah, it's just the people.
After Ford, Harley-Davidson, John Deere, Black& Decker, now Toyota walking back their diversity, equity, and inclusion programs, saying they will no longer sponsor cultural events and parades such as LGBTQ plus Pride.
I think it's less walking back and more of them recognizing that these things have become lewd events.
Hmm. The Gay Pride Parade used to be a kind of, you know, people doing a parade in San Francisco and elsewhere.
Yeah. And it was, you know, you'd bring your kids.
It was like a parade. It was kind of cute.
But they became lewd events where they had the guys, the last go-round they had in San Francisco, an area where there was a bunch of these plastic swimming pools and they're peeing on each other.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, and you're going to sponsor that?
This is just a brand safety.
What's that phrase that's used all the time?
Brand safety. Brand safety, yeah.
These are not brand safe events anymore.
So Toyota, they're back off.
It's not because of, oh, they've gone anti-DEI. It's because they've gone, they're brand safe.
They're the same as they are with everything.
And they're not idiots.
They're not going to be associated with a bunch of guys peeing on each other in public.
Yeah. What a loss for the cause.
Toyota's walking us back, man.
It's no good. Alright, so the dock worker strike ended very abruptly, very quickly, with a lot of fuzz, as in what really happened?
Dock workers across the eastern United States.
On Thursday, celebrated the news that this week's strike was ending quickly.
I'm happy for them so they can get back to work and take care of their families.
I mean, they've been out here for three days around the clock, so this is a good thing for everybody.
It's a good thing for the state, the port, and all the members here and all their families.
The International Longshoremen's Association launched their first walkout since 1977 after negotiations stalled over union demands for significant wage increases and protection against automation-related job loss.
The strike involved 45,000 workers and paralyzed ports from Maine to Texas.
At least 45 container vessels unable to unload were anchored outside the ports by Wednesday, up from just three before the strike began.
Analysts cautioned that a long strike could pose a major economic headwind, leading to shortages and raising prices at a time when inflation has been moderating.
Under the tentative agreement, dock workers will receive a 62% salary increase over six years.
The Union and the United States Maritime Alliance have agreed to extend the existing contract until January 15th while they negotiate other outstanding issues.
So, Daggett, whatever his name is, he was very clear.
77%, five bucks across the board.
They settled for less for this temporary halt and just, in essence, punted it ahead until after the election, right before the insurrection can take place.
We have a boots-on-the-ground report from someone.
We do. Who lives next door to these people.
Oh, do you have it? I don't have that.
Yeah, I do. I thought you had it.
No, I don't. Don't expose my identity, please.
I live in the home of mob union boss Harold and his son Dennis.
Oh, in New Jersey. The guy in New Jersey.
Yeah. It was a boss, Harold.
Yeah. Daggett, along with other execs of the ILA and about 175 ILA employees, we are in the woods.
Harold is going to retire this year, and he was told by many around he has to do this strike because he needs to beef up his retirement, which I think sounds right.
Wait a minute. How does a strike beef up your retirement?
Because when you retire, you go out at a higher amount of money, you get a bigger percentage.
But he already makes $800,000.
Oh, he wants to make more.
Oh, please. It's still going to be a percentage of it.
I don't know, maybe it's 100%, but I don't know what their retirement looks like.
He says, Dennis will not be at the negotiating table with Donald Trump.
By the way, some of the rank and file were letting me know that they did not support the strike.
They were required to be walking in circles with signs.
They didn't like the strike.
And he says, they were pissed because Harold, Dennis, and the other big ones continued to get paid.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
But they're apparently...
They're both Trump's.
Everyone's a Trump supporter, including the rank and file and these guys.
And I think that this is I got to take too much credit for this for the show.
But when we brought up the fact that if they go on the strike and meat is re is reintroduced to the American market.
Yeah. It will lower the prices of beef, lower the price of groceries, and inflation will go down.
It will hurt the Trump campaign.
We couldn't have that. Okay, two things start to make sense.
One, Daggett, he needed to go beyond January then because, oh, I'm retiring.
So there's that part solved.
And then, indeed, it would actually benefit the Harris campaign.
But still, the real issue here seems so obvious to me the deeper I look into it.
It's the automation part.
Oh no, they don't want that.
We have to have automation in America.
It'll happen. It'll be built in.
No matter how much noise they make, what's going to happen is the employees...
In other words, you know, they've been there long enough.
Has they when they're removed, when they quit, when they retire,
they retire, their jobs will be replaced by automation.
So it's not going to hurt any current employees.
The automation. Yeah.
I mean, because in China, they're all as you look, it's crazy looking.
I don't know what to even call them.
These like I don't know what to call them, but they carry around the containers around the yard.
Uh...
I got a note from somebody else who said, you know, we need automation because you have to time, you can't find your load, nobody knows what the hell's going on, just you sit in your truck driving around, it's terrible.
And if you look at the port of Rotterdam, that thing's almost completely automated.
They still have 4,000, 5,000 workers, but it's not 50,000.
And the whole idea of containers was automation.
It was stacking. It was simple.
That was the idea. Exactly.
Standardized. The container idea was a revolution, and it was largely because you could automate it.
Yeah, as opposed to loading, you know, if you looked at the old movies from the 50s and you see how they loaded a ship with a bag full of shit, they dropped it in the hole and people sorted it out.
It was just a joke compared to today.
You're right, just dropped it, the claw opened up, good to go.
Yeah. So...
Anyway, the good news is the economy is doing great.
We had 250,000 jobs.
Of course, if you look into the report, you see that 1.1 million American citizens lost their jobs.
Most of the new jobs are by non-citizens, and I have no problem with someone coming to America to work.
But we know that the zone was flooded, and we know the whole point was...
Yeah, wait, hold on a second. That doesn't make any sense with good-paying union jobs, is all Biden ever said from his get-go, dignity.
Yeah. So Biden came into the briefing room.
Not Joe Biden, by the way.
As far as I'm concerned, this was Daddy Longlegs.
The guy's way too cognizant.
I mean, he has some of the same stumbles that have been practiced over and over again.
I just don't think this is our president.
Anyway, he came in and said, that's all great.
My name's Joe Biden. The president with a rare visit to the White House briefing room to hail good news on the economy.
The nation has now created...
He has not been in the briefing room since his presidency.
Ever, maybe. Ever.
That's not rare. That's ever.
First time ever. My name's Joe Biden.
The president with a rare visit to the White House briefing room to hail good news on the economy.
The nation has now created 16 million jobs since they've come to office.
254,000 of them added in September.
The unemployment rate of 4.1% near a 50-year low.
Wages rose 4% over the past year, meaning paychecks are growing faster than overall inflation.
And the Dow closed today at a record high.
We've gone from economy in crisis to literally having the strongest economy in the world.
But we've got more work to do.
More work because many Americans feel like they're struggling to make ends meet with rising prices of groceries, housing, and childcare.
It feels like it's harder to live.
Everybody's scratching and scraping just to live.
Still, some say they're finally starting to feel a difference.
I feel like it's getting better.
And one of the biggest risks to the economy, the port strike, has been resolved for now.
Shippers and dock workers agreed to an almost 62% pay raise, bringing longshoremen back on the job, at least until January, when they've agreed to bargain again over automation.
Ending the port strike, critical for the economy and especially for small business like Three Moms Organics.
This is such a relief.
Knowing that this has been worked out for at least now takes a lot of pressure off, especially...
Because Three Moms Organics, do they get all their crap from China?
Is that why it's so good for them?
I have no idea what they're going into the holiday season.
The timing also key as the Southeast picks up the pieces after Hurricane Helene and will need significant rebuilding.
Yeah. There was a thing in that report where they said that unemployment is 4.1%, a 50-year low.
No. Within recent memory, we heard 3.1%, 3.5%, 3.4%, 3.6%, all within the last year.
And now it's up to 4.1%.
How has that become a 50-year low?
Yeah. Also, to say that wages have kept in check with inflation is a blatant lie.
I mean, oh, if you're talking about money printing inflation, okay.
But if you're talking about the actual inflation of prices, no.
4% is nowhere near what you need.
No. You need 20%.
Closer to it.
Because they like to downplay, you know, they have to keep reminding people that inflation is cumulative.
Yes. So yeah, it comes down, say it's 2.1%, but it was already 9% and 8%.
It all adds up.
It's like they never show you, and they show a graph, it goes down to whatever it is.
Look at the lines. Look at the pretty lines.
The lines down. The lines down.
But in fact, if you do cumulative...
We're feeling it. I mean, everybody feels it.
I've noticed when I go to the vegetable store, fruit market, I used to pay for the same old, same old stuff.
I always buy the same stuff.
And it was always like $30.
And now it's always $50.
Everything's $20 more.
Minimum. People of Fredericksburg don't even go downtown anymore.
You want a glass of wine?
$27. What?
Yeah, I've heard about some of these prices at bars for liquor.
It's just like, every time somebody tells me one of these for a beer, like, 16 bucks for a beer?
Yeah, so we have... What?
We have royalty in town.
They're probably here.
Sir Mark and Dame Astrid, the Grand Duke and Grand Duchess of Japan and all the islands surrounding the Japan Sea.
Disputed. Disputed, yes, the disputed islands.
And so we're going out to dinner tonight and then tomorrow night we're cooking for them here.
I'm making them pick up the bill for tonight.
I can't afford it anymore.
I'm excited to see them.
Tina says, I should take a look at some of their architecture.
I haven't looked at their portfolio recently.
Holy moly.
I mean, they did the Cartier store.
Well, they would be the type to do that.
The stuff they do is so beautiful.
Have this on your back porch. Sorry?
Have them redesign your back porch.
I can't afford them to design anything for me.
They're going to come in. You just wonder, what did two awards...
Because they're actually here because I think they picked up an award in Houston.
And he has an OBE for his architectural work.
He's like almost an actual knight.
We're actual knights.
No, I mean British knights.
You mean a British knight? Yeah.
No, obviously they're not just knights.
They're Grand Duke and Grand Duchess.
And they're Grand Dukes. Much, much, much bigger rank.
Yes, much bigger rank.
But hey, I'm just saying, are they going to come into our house?
And when you have these architects come into your house, they look around and go, huh.
Oh, yeah, that's embarrassing.
Exactly. Like, hmm, yeah, I wouldn't have made that choice.
Hmm, yeah, okay. Yeah.
Who put the window there like that?
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the container automation.
Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only, Mr.
John C. DeMora!
Ahhhhhhh!
Good morning, Yuma, Shriner.
M. Curry. In the morning, ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to our trolls in the troll room.
Hello there, trolls. We got 22.55 at the peak.
22.55 at the peak.
This is why you say that's bad.
It's low 200.
It's low. We're low 200?
Yeah, it should be 24.
That's alright. Not Thursday.
Well, it's tough times.
People don't have electricity. Can't even listen to the show.
Well, that's true. We have lost the southeast.
Hey, we had a lot of producers in the Asheville area.
Interestingly... We did.
No, no. I'm getting notes from people who are interchanging notes with other people and they're actually for the first time finding out that they both listen to No Agenda.
Yeah, which is kind of cool.
It's always funny. Yeah.
You do what? What?
In the morning? In the morning?
So those trolls are in the troll room, and they are all listening live at trollroom.io, or you can go to noagenda.stream.
Either one works perfectly fine.
This is a 24-7 operation, though we come in on Thursdays and Sundays, and we bring you our show live.
We start at 1 o'clock, and we end up, whenever we're done, usually about three, three and a half hours.
And of course, you can listen to it live right there on the website or you can get a modern podcast app.
And I use Podcast Guru these days.
It's pretty good. It'll give you an alert when we go live right in the app.
You see? So it's like, boom! Oh, it's live!
And you click on that and you hear, right away, you hear the stream.
And if you miss the stream or can't listen or your boss is watching, don't worry about it.
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most of the shows actually through the podcasting 2.0 technology along with
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language you can read along as we speak. You'll even and the transcripts now
identify your name correctly and they spell your name correctly. The AI is
improving.
Okay, good. Yeah, it only took, what, 18 months?
We're there, finally.
The large language model has figured it out.
We run the show Value for Value, which means the 26th of October will be 17 years that we have never had a commercial.
We've never taken any corporate money.
It's all been time, talent, and treasure from our producers, which we're very proud of.
Someone sent me...
An early, early twit.
A couple of clips. I didn't keep them.
I have them, but I didn't bring them to the show.
When Leo was still at the Brickhouse, I guess he's back.
Is he back at the Brickhouse now?
No, he's at home.
He's in the garage. And you were on the show.
We were talking about different business models of podcasting.
And it was so early.
We weren't doing this show yet.
And... No.
I remember during the cottage era when we weren't doing the show, but I think by the time the brick house came around, we were doing the show.
Well, it may have been the cottage then.
Maybe it wasn't the brick house.
And you guys were talking about, well, what are the possible models?
And Leo was like, oh, we'll get enough money for advertisers.
That'll happen eventually.
And there was a lot of talk of donations.
And it was kind of like, well, you know, we can easily get everyone to donate $4.
Yeah, same way. It never works.
And we started that way, too, 17 years ago.
Like, hey, why don't you...
No, no, it doesn't work.
When you ask people just to send you value for the value received of the program, it's amazing what happens.
It's a revolutionary thought.
I'm surprised that more people have not really picked up on it.
They have to be lectured on it.
I've lectured people on this because they all say the same thing that you just expressed, which is, well, you know, I got 10,000 listeners, and if all of them somehow, by the way, try 1%.
Think in those terms. Yeah, that's a little closer to reality.
If all of them gave me four bucks a show, that would be $40,000 a show, and I do a show a week, that's enough to get, I'll make a lot of money.
And it's like, you won't get, that's never going to happen.
No. And even if you only have $10,000 and you leave it wide open so they can donate what they want, could be $4,000, could be $10,000, could be $100,000.
There are people that have enough disposable income that they will gladly give you $1,000.
Yeah, and that is because value is different to them.
That's what makes it so beautiful.
And also, people can just give us time and talent.
I don't think we... Have we ever built a website for this show?
I can't recall ever building a website.
Oh yeah. Dvorak.org slash NA. We don't have the password anymore, so we don't talk about that one.
We don't talk about that one. Dvorak.org slash NA. Oh, I still play the jingle at the end just to irk you.
Because one day... I just put a forwarding thing.
Oh, please. Oh, okay.
Will you have that done by the next show?
It's so easy. Just admit it.
Is this working? I can't hear it.
Hello? Adam?
You lost the password.
Just admit it. Hello? Put a blink tag in there.
I'd be very impressed. I don't think the blink tag works anymore.
It doesn't? They got rid of the blink?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't. They deprecated the blink tag?
I think they took it out.
No, that's no good.
Yeah, I'd rather have a run.
I like it where you have the running cat going from one side of the page to the other.
That's my favorite. Good times.
The cat running back and forth.
And then there's a mailbox that spins and opens and closes.
And remember. And the little red flag goes up and down.
Don't you remember the under construction sign?
Oh, those are still around.
The little yellow and black construction wood.
Our website's coming.
It's under construction.
We're building it. Yes, we're building it.
Anyway, so no, we haven't done that.
And one of the many ways that people contribute is through...
Providing us with new album art for each and every single episode, which looks great in the rundown of podcasts.
It looks great for promoting the show.
It gives people a kick, and it's a fun little competition.
We have some very serious...
I cleaned up the studio the other day, and I found Mike Riley books.
We have so many...
We have a pro-comic guy who's just high-end.
Oh, we have a couple of high-end comic guys.
A couple of them. And I keep all that stuff, of course.
Those guys don't give us the art for the show.
No, no, no. No, they don't.
But that's the level that we have within our realm.
But Riley does. Or used to. He used to.
You know, I put that in a box and I'm like, one day when I'm dead, my daughter's going to come in here like, I got to clean out dad's junk.
And what's this junk and throw it out?
Exactly. So what this is to say, it might be worth something, but some guy scribbled his name all over it.
What good is that? I don't know.
What are all these coins?
What are these coins with all this different stuff?
Stupid coins from the CIA. These coins are no good.
I got stickers.
I got all kinds. I can just see her now.
Bring out one of those containers, boys.
Get rid of this junk.
Anyway, artgenerator.com is the website where you can upload and participate in this contest, which takes place twice a week.
And we want to congratulate the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1700.
Of course, it was a big episode for us.
And Francisco Scaramanga nailed it.
He hates us, by the way.
I don't understand how he keeps submitting art.
By the way, 1700 was titled Turban Tossing, and I think we should keep an eye on that, because that will be...
That will be the way the next...
It will be the turban-tossing revolution in Iran.
And we'll be... We have a boots on the ground from a dude named Bahamut coming up after we thank some people here.
So Francisco had automated containers.
Two robots carrying a shipping container.
It had 1,700 on it.
It was very traditional Scaramanga color palette, I would say.
He has this kind of color palette with his greenish background.
Um... The letters that have that little, what is the look I'm looking at here?
It's kind of washed out a little.
That's not the right term.
Are you looking at it? I've got the old one here.
I'm going to look at it. What are you talking about?
What is this guy talking about?
What am I talking about? Yeah, he does have a...
He's a pastel-y.
He's a pastel-ian.
That's what he is. Yeah, he's a pastel-ian.
And so he's got the blue sky.
It's kind of a pastel blue.
Pastel-ian. Orange container is kind of a pastel orange.
Yes. And...
It's good. And the 17...
Yeah, it's got that...
What would you call that?
Dirty. Grungy. Grungy.
Dirty, grungy look. Grungy, dirty numbers that have been shopworn.
Yes, and I can tell you right now what I'm seeing coming in for this episode.
We're going to be looking for an evergreen.
Once we said no Star Trek stuff, everyone gave up.
Yeah, it seems like there's nothing here.
So keep trying.
The artists, they do this while they're listening live, which is the beautiful thing about it.
There was, let's see, was there anything else?
There was a lot of butts, a lot of 1700, a lot of cheesecake.
Was there anything else that we liked?
I kind of like Nico Syme's Signs.
The strike signs, but there was just no doubt about it.
Francisco Scaramanga's piece was prettier.
It made sense. Yeah, Scaramanga's piece.
It nailed it. Artgenerator.com.
And you can see many of these pieces of art flying by in the chapters.
And if you're in the car, if you're using Android Auto or CarPlay and you plug it in, it'll change on your dashboard.
It's kind of fun. It distracts you while you're driving.
Thank you again, Francisco Scaramanga.
Now we want to thank the people who brought us the treasure part of the three Ts of value for value, time, talent, treasure, the executive and associate executive producers.
We also still have our Commodore promotion ongoing, which is a very handsome certificate.
You become a no-agenda Commodore.
It comes, you know, the certificate is, I still don't have mine yet.
You should probably get yours this week.
Okay, and then I'll take a picture.
Before Thursday's show, so make sure you get a picture of you showing it off.
And it has a seal and it has a ribbon.
It's one of the best designs yet.
I'm very excited to see it.
I'm very excited to hang it on my wall.
So we'd like to thank our executive and associate executive producers.
Very simple. Everybody can send in through noagendadonations.com a donation of any value.
They're all appreciated. We mention all of them over $50.
We always love the sustaining donations.
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Credits are recognized. Hollywood-style credits because that's what they are.
Even on imdb.com.
And for $300 and above, you get an executive producer credit and we read your note.
And we kick it off with a rare...
Certainly the longer we do the show, show number donation, this is for the last show, 1700.
Yeah, it came in late.
I mean, it came in by mail, so he just missed it.
So I don't know what we can put a show donation on this show.
Yeah, no, we have to do that.
Oh, yeah, we have to do that. Yeah, no, it has to be show donation.
Yes, it is. Yeah, just put it on show donation 1700.
Yeah, of course, of course. And this is from Baronetis Bear of Bend and Sir Ryan of Central Oregon, $1,700.
On a check, thank you very much.
Dear John and Adam, thanks for 1,700 episodes of the greatest podcast in the universe.
This donation will push Sir Ryan over the Baron finish line.
You will be upgraded today.
If the peerage committee approves, he wants to claim Central Oregon as his territory.
Peerage committee, everything good?
Fine with me. Please sign us both up for the No Agenda Commodore promotion.
That means you just go to NoAgendaRings.com.
The Commodore ship is there.
You can put your information in.
No jingles, no karma. We need a mailing address and the name you want on the certificate.
Thanks for the hard work and spot-on analysis from Baronetta's Bear of Bend and Sir Ryan of Central Oregon.
And thank you both so much. It's highly appreciated.
Up next, from Cincinnati, Ohio, for $1,500, which is nothing to sneeze at.
No. Grant Shuler.
Greetings! Thanks for what you guys do.
Here's a Tri-Commodore donation.
That's interesting. I like the Tri-Commodore.
It's like a Tri-Corder.
For the special 1701 Star Trek show.
First, let me be known simply as Commodore G. I'd like to give two Commodore ranks.
One to my brother, Commodore Clark, who hit me in the mouth during the plandemic.
Oh, good for him. And one to his faithful canine companion, Indy.
Let her be known as Commodore Indy, the White Shepherd.
Oh, all right. Again, go to NoAgendaRings.com and put this information in there.
So you can get it shipped to the right place.
Also, for all those in the Cincinnati, Ohio area, a shout out to my brother's business, Central Bank Doggy Daycare.
Bark, bark, bark. Oh, I'm thinking of bank.
Central Bank. Try that read again.
Central Bark Doggy Daycare in the Madeira Indian Hill area.
It's a dog care reimagined with enrichment daycare, lectures about communism, grooming, luxury boarding, and much, much more.
A wonderful place with a staff who just love to pamper your pup all day long.
Come by and check it out.
I'm surprised most of these luxury places also advertise that they stream the dog channel.
24-7 in the kennel.
Does Mimi have that?
No. It's a big thing now.
We don't have TVs for the dogs.
You'd be surprised.
It's a big thing now.
They're streaming the dog channel.
Well, some dogs with, you know, ever since, people should always kind of remember this, that before the LCD screen, dogs couldn't see TV. That's right.
That's a good perspective. Because it was flickering at 30 cycles per second, and it was just bits and pieces that our eyes, human eyes, could piece it together to look like an image, when in fact it wasn't.
If anyone ever took a photo of a TV screen, you could see what's really going on, just a splash of something.
And dogs, they couldn't see.
The images weren't built into the dog eyes.
So they wouldn't watch TV. They couldn't.
Even cats. So when the LCD screen came out, this is useless information.
No, it's riveting. When the LCD screen came out, dogs and cats will watch TV. That's right.
You're right. It's good news.
In some places, they eat the dogs.
In other places, they let them watch TV. They're eating the dogs!
Duke of San Francisco comes in with 696.33 and says, I, the Duke of San Francisco, have learned of the Lake Tahoe submarine base and the protection of the bay is now paramount to the defense of our great nation.
I've got information, man.
New shit has come to light.
He requested that jingle.
I shall patrol the bay with Sir Lavish and Recalcitrant Steve to keep our shores safe.
When at sea, now ready for war, I shall be Commodore Dude Name Ben Name Ben.
And we shall make it so.
I'm glad you're doing that.
The certificate, but okay.
Well, change the font.
Change the font.
Onward with...
Ron Cooper, and he's in Flanagan.
No, no, no. Oh, I'm sorry. Baron, I'm sorry.
Baron Sir Dude named Ralph in Miami, Florida.
6-15-82. From Baron Sir Dude named Ralph, Miami.
$500 for Commodore donation.
$85 for show $1,730 for the PayPal fees.
Wow. Thank you very much. Wow.
Wow. PayPal. Ron Cooper, Flanagan, Illinois, 533.33 says, I need a double de-douche.
You've been de-douched.
Why do people think they need a double de-douched?
You've been de-douched.
You're really dirty.
I haven't showered lately. Love listening to you.
What are you drinking? Same Topo Chico.
Topo Chico. Love listening to you every week.
My birthday is October 6th.
I'm turning 54. And what better present than becoming Commodore Cooper?
Followed both of you from Adam's MTV days and John's Cranky Geeks.
See you in Fredericksburg.
Ah, October 18th.
Goat Karma, he says.
You got it, Ron. You've got...
Karma.
You have to read the next one because it's too long.
Yeah. Okay.
This is from Sir1%.
ITM fellows and Gitmo Nation, I am back with a donation of 1% of my gross business revenue to send sad puppies scurrying away and claim my promotion to Viscount, the honor of Commodore of Dixie, Washington.
And if I'm going to read, you can't be blowing your nose or you got to mute.
It's disgusting. It's not disgusting.
It's a fact of life.
Is it disgusting?
Yeah, because you can just hear it flying out of your nose.
Oh, it's going into a Kleenex.
Not like I'm doing it like a baseball guy squirting on the ground.
It's similar. It's unbecoming.
Okay. And ask that myself and President Vladimir Putin be added to the birthday list since we share the same birthday on Monday.
I will be hitting 49.
I also want to use this occasion to thank those on the socials, how I refer to Mastodon for short.
Okay. Who helped me attempt to win Best Pest Control Service Provider in a local newspaper's recently concluded Reader's Choice Bowl.
Unfortunately, I do not have news of a victory.
However, I do not know if that's because of my business.
Z Pest Control LLC did not win.
A strange thing has happened.
Nominated businesses were invited to an awards dinner and a minimum ticket cost of $138.
Okay. Like, who's who?
Don't you understand that these are scams?
That's the whole point of these things.
Even the podcast awards now.
The whole idea is you pay your money and you pay to enter.
So, I'm sorry that you got snookered.
At the event, which was live-streamed and recorded, dozens of categories disappeared from the presentation.
Pest control included!
Oh no! This is a travesty of epic proportions.
The list of winners has not yet been published, but I now suspect that if no nominees from a category bought tickets in their category was eliminated, votes and all.
This poll may have been nothing more than a scam by the newspaper to score cash on the names of other businesses.
Oh well, life is a scam.
Thank you, gentlemen, for your tireless work, shining light, and all the BS out there.
Jingle requests, JCD spooky donate, George Bush Jr., just send your cash, and Biden whole load.
Faithfully supporting your exit strategy 1% at a time, Sir Doctor 1%, Barron turning Viscount of Liberland, Dixie, Washington.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
I'm going to give you the whole load today.
You've got... Donate!
Donate! Donate!
Karma. Eric Curtis in Pleasant Ridge, Michigan.
500 bucks, no note, no nothing, so he gets a Double Up Karma.
You've got...
Double Up! Karma.
Baronet Flynot is from Meredith, New Hampshire, 500.
He says, congrats on 1700.
Jobs karma for all.
I hired Linda Lupatkin in Q3 of 2023 and just got a sweet new gig.
Her connections on LinkedIn are pretty amazing.
For a resume that gets results, use ImageMakersInc.com.
That's ImageMakersInc.com.
Question, what's your take on Mike Benz?
Do you have a take on Mike Benz?
I don't really. You do.
I do. I think Mike Benz is spot on.
Unfortunately, he usually takes 40 minutes to make the point, and I think most people have already kind of drifted off and lost interest.
He is so detailed, and he almost seems frustrated that people don't understand what he's saying, but I agree with almost everything he says.
But even when you talk about the so-called blob, I just think he's got to find a shorter way to explain what he's saying.
He needs an editor.
Onwards towards Barron!
Regards, Barron at Fly Knot of the Open Mats.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
Tyler Hooker in Arcata, California.
500. And this is switcheroo.
Make a newt.
This donation of 500 and the accompanying Commodore title of Practically Perfect.
I can't say it. Practically Perfectly.
Is a 71st birthday gift for Donna Jean Hooker from her son, Tyler, and her daughter-in-law, Danielle Hewitt.
Please de-douche her and add her to the birthday list for October 7th.
She's on the list. Also, please know that no agenda kept all of us sane and together throughout the COVID madness.
Happy birthday, Mom. Jingles.
Biscuit on my birthday.
They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
You've been de-douched.
By the way, I would hope we're keeping you sane throughout these insane times as well.
You know, there's a lot going on in the world, and the media is definitely affecting everyone's amygdala one way or the other.
So bring it back to size.
Media's no good.
Yeah, that's an easy way of saying it.
Media's no good.
Uh, am I... Am I not mistaken, but I think it is time.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest, Sir Dwayne Melanson.
There he is, Sir Dwayne Melanson.
Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest, $500.
ITM, gentlemen. Economy karma for us all.
That's jobs, jobs, jobs, plus goats.
Please. And I don't know if he wants a Commodore ship.
He hasn't mentioned it, but...
I would hope so.
And he listens.
He knows to go to NoAgendaRings.com and fill out the form.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Sir Robertson of the Two Sticks in Dos Palos, California.
Two sticks. ITM, Sir Robertson with two sticks, requesting Commodore status.
Also a Trekkie NCC 1701-D enterprise.
Thank you for your courage and go podcasting!
Oh, thank you.
Soap, soaps. Soap, soaps.
Peyton, Colorado, 500.
Switcheroo! Commodore donation for my Better Half credit EP to Tabitha Soaps.
I think I got an email from her the other day.
Tabitha Soaps.
I'll put that in here.
Okay. I've got your switcheroo done.
Bringing her to Dame status.
She shall be known as Dame Tabitha, Keeper of Awesomeness, Cowboy Killers, and Calvados for the Roundtable.
It's been ordered. We'll see her there.
Thank you. Brian Talecki in Lincoln, Nebraska, who came in a little late for the last show.
He came in for show 1700, but it was after the show had begun.
Yeah. $500. And he says, Dear John and Adam, I love this Commodore promotional idea for show 1700.
After witnessing the Vanderbilt University Commodores defeat the...
That's just...
Oh, this is a new note because this happened just yesterday.
This is a ridiculous football situation for people out there who follow college football.
I know, right? It was crazy!
Okay, gut felt.
Sportsball! After witnessing the Vanderbilt University Commodore's defeat of the top-ranked number one Alabama Crimson Tide Saturday night, I know I needed to donate.
For those who... R-E-S-P-I-C-T. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. I said, what in the world of this?
You've got karma.
That guy's great. Ah, now we move to 343.75.
So these are not Commodores, but these are executive producers.
SirTikTokTunes is in Roswell, Georgia.
He says, I'm SirTikTokTunes, Knight of the Loud Voices.
Congratulations to you both.
First executive producer donation thanks to an unexpected windfall.
Whew! Thanks for the masterful media deconstruction.
Pot calling kettle.
Don't look over here.
I gotcha. Hello, kettle.
This is the pot calling. Don't look over here.
Nothing to see here.
Ooh, look at that. Nice.
You know where the term windfall comes from?
I do not. Fruit orchards.
Oh, so the windfall would have more fruit dropping on the ground?
Yeah, the big wind comes in and a bunch of fruit drops, so you don't have to go pick it.
And you load up and you can sell the windfall profit.
Fruit orchards in where?
In Georgia? In California?
Everywhere. Anywhere there's a windstorm.
But where did, who first coined the term windfall?
Well, now you're asking me questions I can't answer.
Well, don't come to the table. You're trying to stump me.
Well, don't come to the table.
I don't have the etymology.
I don't have the exact name of the orchard and the poor guy who had the windfall of profit.
Well, while you read the next donation, I'll take a look.
SDG in Oakland, California, 340.
And this is 170.
This is an interesting donation.
It's 170 times 2 over 4 for show 1700.
Oh. We got mathematicians out there, huh?
It's very impressive.
Youpers United. Youpers United.
That's Y-O-O-P-E-R-S. Youpers United from Gurney, Illinois.
333.30. Thank you for your exceptional show.
Signed, Youpers United.
I wonder who these Youpers United guys are.
I don't know, but they seem to be in Illinois.
I'm going to take a look. Sir Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina, 333.33.
And he says, God bless North Carolina and God bless North Agenda.
Please pray for us.
Sir Kevin Dills, Duke of North Carolina.
Yes. Youpers United is a place to find volunteer opportunities.
Oh, interesting.
Uber is United. Thank you very much.
Look it up. Then we go to Zach N. in Los Angeles, California.
Our first associate executive producer with 283.36.
Shana Tova, gentlemen.
Wishing you... Oh, this one came in late.
Wishing you both a huge congrats on show 1700 and happy and healthy new year from one of No Agenda's proud token Jews.
Apologies for the late donation as I was conspiring on a world takeover with my fellow Jews last night at Rosh Hashanah services.
Another fail.
You failed again, Jews!
I'm also proud to announce my knighthood has been achieved.
Please knight me Sir Nanook of the West.
I request apples and honey, that's a Rosh Hashanah favorite, and grass-finished ribeyes and chocolate babka at the round table.
What's a babka? A chocolate babka.
Babka, isn't that a Russian dessert of some sort?
That's babushka. No, that's babushka.
No, that's the dolls.
Babushka doll. Babushka means grandmother.
Yes, okay. But babka.
Anyway, this show is one of the greatest blessings in my life, and I thank you both and all the producers for their continued work.
Karma for all. Thank you from Zach and...
You've got karma.
Wyatt Worms or Worms?
Worms. Worms.
It's got to be Worms. Worms.
I think Worms. And he's in Phoenix, Phoenix, Oregon.
I didn't know there was a Phoenix, Oregon.
$210.95.
Hello, gents. My name was called out on show 1700 by Commodore Brent Smith from La Grande, Oregon.
Pretty sure I'm not that Wyatt.
But I will oblige... In other words, he got called out as a douchebag.
He got called out and he just...
My name is Wyatt, so I might as well jump in.
I love it. But I will oblige anyway.
I need recovery karma from my broken leg after an accident in March.
Ugh, broken leg. Yeah, that's bad.
Thank you both so much and may you never find an exit strategy, Wyatt Verms.
Thank you very much, Wyatt.
You've got karma.
And I will do Michael Day from Fouquet-Varina, who is in North Carolina, and so we hope all is well there.
$200, no note, so he gets a double up karma, and for all there as well.
Karma. And last on our list is Linda Lupatkin in Liquid, Colorado.
$200 also.
And she's requesting, believe it or not, she's requesting Jobs Karma.
And says for a resume that gets results, visit ImageMakersInc.com for your go-to, your go-to for all your executive resume and job search needs.
That's ImageMakersInc.com.
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
And according to Mutter in the Troll Room, babka is typically made with a yeast, leave, and dough that's rolled out and spread with a filling such as chocolate, cinnamon, fruit, or cheese, then rolled up and braided before baking.
It's popular in Israel and among the Jewish diaspora.
We could have known that.
It's Jew food. Jew food.
Getting gefilte fish.
Oh, man. That I can't understand.
I mean, I can eat raw herring, no problem.
Gefilte fish? No.
That's just nasty.
It's a test, Jesse.
A test you failed. Yeah, yeah.
I failed for sure.
Thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers and our commodores who will be honored later on.
We appreciate it. We'll also be thanking everybody over $50.
And remember, any donation helps, even a sustaining donation, which you can find and enter at noagendadonations.com.
Thank you again to I have a couple of WTF clips that are political.
Okay, well, good.
This is Harris in North Carolina 1.
Okay? Vice President Harris surveyed damage from Hurricane Helene in North Carolina.
And Perez Azma Khaled has more.
In North Carolina, Harris praised first responders and volunteers on the ground for doing God's work.
The work that is happening here and that continues really is the best of what we can do to bring federal, state, and local resources together.
Federal hurricane recovery efforts are becoming politicized in this campaign cycle.
Wait a minute, wait a minute. She didn't say they were doing God's work.
Exactly. Then why did, and why did this woman say, and what is this from?
Is this NPR? NPR. And why did she then say it was being politicized?
Because she's politicizing it right there.
Ugh, what a horrible woman.
I'm glad you caught that immediately.
Yes, I'm like, God's work?
Yay, go Jesus! What?
None of that. She said nothing about God.
She's an atheist. Come on.
She's a communist. Marxist.
It's the opposite. Yeah, well, you have to be an atheist to be a good communist.
Yes, you do. Well, here's part two.
The Republican presidential nominee has criticized the Biden administration and made some false allegations about the government's response to the disaster.
Harris did not publicly speak to the misinformation during her trip, but while she was in North Carolina, the White House issued a statement about, quote, fighting Hurricane Helene falsehoods with facts.
Asma Khaled, NPR News.
What? Wait. What's she talking about?
The same woman. Now she's saying that there was false information without telling us what it was.
Oh, Trump's saying false information.
What? Is this just like a throwaway report?
They just do this 22 seconds from time to time on NPR? Just throw it in there?
Yeah, it's just so they can slam Trump.
Oh, man. Very strange.
If we want to play weird clips, I still have...
No, I don't really.
Oh, okay, good. Well, let's play a couple.
Well, no...
I'm glad you're on board. Well, no, I want to talk about Iran and Israel and all the important things in life.
Iran. I've got an Israel clip, but it's not going to...
Follow whatever you have to do.
Okay, backgrounder, and if you really want to know what the intelligence community thinks, you've got to bring in Richard Engel from NBC. Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, led Friday prayers in Tehran today, for the first time in more than four years.
He said Iran is ready to strike Israel again, if necessary.
To drive home the point, the 85 A five-year-old cleric clutched an assault rifle.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is at war with Iran's network of allies.
The main battleground is Lebanon against Hezbollah, which has been attacking northern Israel with rockets for nearly a year.
In response, the group says, to Israel's war on Gaza.
Beirut is now rocked by Israel day and night.
Here Israel targeted what an official said was a meeting of Hezbollah leaders.
In southern Lebanon, Israel is trying to carve out a buffer zone free of Hezbollah.
Israeli strikes are taking their toll here.
The city of Tyre, one of the biggest cities here in southern Lebanon, has effectively been evacuated.
Tyre is burning. There are very few civilians left here.
Hezbollah has taken a beating in recent days, but the group remains intact.
And every day down here we have seen and heard outgoing fire.
Lebanese officials say 1,400 people have been killed.
In Israel, Prime Minister Netanyahu and his war cabinet are still deciding how and when to respond to Iran's missile attack.
That decision will be felt across the Middle East and beyond.
Yeah, this is the big one now.
How is Israel, Israel, how are they going to respond?
Are they going to blow up the oil?
Are they going to blow up the nuclear?
Are they going to do nothing?
Are they going to just blow up some more pagers, some more radios?
What's going on? I think we should have a betting pool.
Well, let's see what Trump has to say.
They asked him, what do you think about Iran?
Would you hit Iran?
And he goes, as long as they don't hit the nuclear stuff.
That's the thing you want to hit, right?
I said, I think he's got that one wrong.
Isn't that what you're supposed to hit?
I mean, it's the biggest risk we have.
Nuclear weapons, the power of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry.
You know, I rebuilt the entire military.
Jets, everything.
I built it, including nuclear, and I hated to build the nuclear, but I got to know firsthand the power of that stuff.
And I'll tell you what, we have to be totally prepared.
We have to be absolutely prepared.
But when they asked him that question, the answer should have been, hit the nuclear first and worry about the rest later.
And that's why they should, if they're going to do it.
I like how Trump kind of interchanges nuclear power with nuclear bombs and, you know, just this whole back and forth.
And, of course, nobody wants to hit the oil because then the oil will skyrocket and that's going to hurt.
You don't need that aggravation.
That's going to hurt Biden short term and Trump long term because no matter what he does, his 18-month promise won't happen if they blow up some Iranian oil rigs and refineries or whatever.
That's no good. So the question is, as CNN poses to former U.S. ambassador to Syria and Israel, is this political?
Is this by any way political?
Is Netanyahu taking advantage of some political cycle going on in America?
Sir, what do you believe are Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's imperatives here?
What's his thought trajectory?
The central question is, is the Israeli Prime Minister taking advantage of the fact that we are in the heated final days of a U.S. presidential election?
Is he pushing forward more aggressively in part because of that?
Absolutely, Casey.
I think that he feels he has a relatively open field because of our upcoming presidential elections.
It's very difficult for the Biden administration on the cusp of a very tight presidential race.
To alienate certain important constituencies on our country, both the American Jewish vote, the Arab, American Arab vote in battleground states.
So he knows the American political scene very well, like the back of his hand.
And I think he is taking advantage of the inhibitions of the Biden administration to be more assertive in reining in what he has been doing in really asking for total military victory in Gaza and now attacking Beirut and southern Lebanon.
So that obviously is a consideration.
It is in his personal interest to continue the warfare into certain measures.
Oh, that was totally boring.
I'm almost apologetic that I brought that.
Just a minute of my life, I'll never get back.
It's longer. It was a minute and a half.
So, but I did use the term, unless you slipped it, in thought trajectory.
Oh, I slipped that in.
I slipped in thought trajectory.
Please. Because the stupid Casey Hunt is like...
Thought trajectory is what you just want to say.
I'll read the, you know, our theory, our working theory, which can change, but our working theory is this is all part of the West Clark Seven.
The idea is to get Iran.
We already have the turban tossing happening.
We need regime change.
And some of the players may already be dead if not there on the hit list.
Very similar to what happened with Hezbollah.
And the exploding, the pagers was one thing.
I think the tactical radios, that really took out some dudes who were important.
So speaking of dudes, we have a boots on the ground from dude named Mohamed.
He's in the region. And would you explain why we put so much weight on his reports?
He's the OG dude named Muhammad, for one thing, if it's the same guy.
And he seems credible.
I don't know what you're wanting me to say.
About how people talk in the region.
Oh yes, they gossip a lot.
If you're in the Middle East and you go to a cafe or even hang out with a rug salesman in Turkey, all they do is gossip about politics 100% of the time.
It's like we once in a while, oh, don't talk politics at the dinner table.
Oh no, that's not the case in the Middle East.
No. That's all you talk about.
So we are thinking...
Is that what you were looking for? Thank you.
I'll cut out the part where I explain my question.
No one will ever know. It'll be seamless.
We edit this show down to nothing.
The post that goes into this show is unbelievable.
No one ever knows. ITM gents, here's my humble analysis of the situation having a good understanding of the region, U.S., and international affairs.
It seems that this is ramping up to cleanse all Iranian proxies before January 2025.
This explains the Trump-Netanyahu meetings, which were at Mar-a-Lago, and will give both something to brag about.
Trump ending a huge conflict from day one, and Netanyahu emerging like a national hero.
This will revive a new Abraham Accord.
With friendly neighboring countries.
We've already heard Bibi talk that way towards the Iranians.
Minimal threats for new beachfront properties and shining pipelines.
Hezbollah will be completely eliminated and I believe there will be a new leadership and Lebanon could be supported by the Lebanese military which will guarantee support by Gulf nations for a stable and friendly Lebanon.
Syria, on the other hand, will most likely end with a military coup with a friendly military leadership just like Lebanon.
The same will be repeated in Yemen.
Iraq is already halfway there with a couple of militias to be pushed aside and no strong or charismatic leader for the
proxies in This part of the world people look for a singular leader
and the proxies lost a lot of them recently During this Abraham Accord 2.0 stage Iran will be isolated
Sidelined and ready to be internally rebel rubble eyes through turban tossing and tick-tock videos
Turban tossing and tick-tock videos is too long for a title, but that's basically it and that will finally end the West
Clark 7 you
You know, I was thinking about this.
It's a good note.
It's a great note. If you add Putin and Ukraine to the mix, let's just take a look at what happened since 1991 in American foreign policy.
In 91, the wall came down.
The Soviet Union ended.
And I think from that moment, the United States, you know, the government was like, yeah, we run the world now.
We don't need anybody.
There's no one's around. Putin, there's no guy to do anything.
Russia's weak. They got nothing.
So in 1992, Paul Wolfowitz creates a defense policy for Cheney, who was then, some people don't remember this, he was the Secretary of Defense for Bush I. Then we get Clinton in 1994.
A Democrat now. So, of course, everything's going to change.
Sure. NATO would expand to Ukraine.
That actually became public in 97.
Despite what we had promised, Gorbachev, and before that, Yeltsin.
We said, we're never going to expand NATO. Don't worry about it.
Yeah, it was a promise by Jim Baker.
And then who came in as Secretary of State under Bill Clinton?
Madeleine Albright. Another fine specimen.
In 1998, Clinton already had published the policy document to replace Saddam Hussein through regime change.
But don't worry, we'll get to that later.
Then we have the first war in Europe after World War II, which people don't really want to credit it with.
That was the 1999 bombing of Serbia.
Again, Madeleine Albright, Clinton.
Wasn't she out there saying, hey, if we've got to kill some children, it's okay?
I recall her saying something like that.
And I recall the errant missile that found its way into the Chinese embassy and blew it to smithereens.
Yes. No, she said that later.
She said later. Here she said.
We have heard that a half a million children have died.
I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima.
And, you know, is the price worth it?
I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it.
Uh-huh. So there you go.
That's Madeleine Albright.
That's a great clip to have at the ready.
That's Madeleine Albright.
That's a good one, yeah.
Now, at the time, during the Clinton, Bill Clinton, our sax-playing, boxer-wearing Bill Clinton, Democrat president, who was number two in the State Department Russian policy...
Come on, everybody. It's an easy question to answer.
Victoria Nuland.
Yes. She was in there in 1999.
So then we get Bush in after the disaster.
That's when she was thin and kind of pretty.
Well, in an odd kind of way.
Yeah, but she was.
So then we have Bush coming in in 2001.
He came in, of course, in January before 9-11.
But don't worry, it was only a couple months.
This is George W. Bush.
Nuland then becomes Deputy National Security Advisor for...
Who was the vice president?
Oh, there's Cheney again!
Oh, what a surprise!
Of course, then we read of the Project for the New American Century, a subtitle, Rebuilding America's Defenses.
We get 9-11.
Whatever happened, how that happened, WTC-7 won't go away.
And this became the public relations move to start all of the wars.
Of course, we know West Clark 7, the big ones.
By 2003, we needed to have Iraq, Syria, and Iran.
In 2004, this isn't discussed very much, seven more countries joined NATO. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia.
Remember, no expansion, Russia.
Nuh-uh. Now, who was ambassador to NATO in 2005?
You'll never guess. Who? Victoria Nuland!
Whoa, what a surprise!
Oh my god, you're kidding! Then we have in 2008, well, that Bush was no good.
Let's bring in our hope and change.
Here's President Obama.
And who becomes Secretary of State under Obama?
Hillary Clinton. And who was the spokeshole for the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton?
Ah, Victoria Nuland!
She gets a lot of work.
She does. Then we switched out Hillary for watermelon head Kerry, and Nuland became Assistant Secretary of State and the point person on Ukraine.
So then 2014, Victoria Nuland coordinates the coup.
We have her on the phone call.
F the EU. Hey!
And then with our CIA director somehow, for some reason, in Ukraine, hanging around, eating donuts.
Yeah. Cookies.
And, oh, we'll bring in Biden.
He'll midwife this thing.
He'll lube the baby.
It's all going to be great. Who else enters the scene?
Sullivan, Blinken.
So we got the whole team in there.
Now, Trump comes in in 2016, and I mean, I think he was still kind of...
He's perpetuating this policy by reluctantly, I guess, but eventually sending arms to Ukraine, though not of the nuclear variety.
And he thought he had a pretty good relationship with our dancer over there, our actor Zelenskyy.
And right away, of course, it was a horrible phone call.
He's no good. They went crazy over Trump not wanting to do what they wanted him to do, but he did relent a little bit.
So then we get 2021 Biden.
Remember, he helped overthrow Ukraine.
All kinds of shenanigans with his kid.
And again, Sullivan and Blinken.
Everybody's in. Putin even tries to get a peace treaty.
Oh, let's send in Boris Johnson to intervene.
It's the same policies, the same people.
And again, Newland got promoted.
She was on point for the war of 2022.
Biden calling for regime change in Russia.
And now, do we understand and do we find it strange or not that Dick Cheney endorses Kamala Harris?
Wow, it's like a shaggy dog story.
That was good. Thank you, thank you.
This is the reason. Yeah, I like the way you wrapped it, because I was waiting.
You were waiting, but where's he going to end it?
He better end it now. I was thinking, where's he going with this?
I thought it might be something just a minor thing, but to bring it back to Cheney.
That's it. And him endorsing Kamala Harris, which is an abomination for any Republican at his level.
Exactly. Yes.
Congratulations. That's one of the best tales you've told so far.
Wow. It was a good one. Oh, a rare compliment.
It was worth complimenting.
It was good. Yes, indeed.
In fact, you nailed it.
Thank you. And our dude named...
People are feet on the ground.
Our dude's named Mohammed.
Everyone knows this is going on.
Anyone who's got a clue knows this is going on.
And people in the Middle East, generally speaking, can see through a lot of this stuff.
I remember I was in Holland and...
It was Bush 1.
And who was he running against?
Dukakis was at one point.
Dukakis in the tank.
And I remember being, you know, my buddy Ben Cohen, who had the Swarma joint in Amsterdam.
I used to talk about him back in the day.
You may not remember. I don't remember.
Well, this is before we were doing the show.
Oh, I definitely won't remember that.
No, but I talked about him many times after.
It doesn't matter. And that was, you know, I was young.
I was on TV. I was popular.
I'm like, yeah, I'm in Teen Beat magazine.
Oh, yeah. You're a hot tiger.
I'm a hottie. I'm a hottie.
Yes, I'm the heartthrob of the week in the Dutch Tiger.
Now you're 60. Yeah.
Don't get me started, JCD. Now you're the same age as Walls.
I'm actually, I think I'm a little older than Walls.
I think he's 59. Well, that guy looks like he's 90, so you're in good shape.
And so this is kind of a hat tip to our dude named Muhammad.
So Ben and his brother, I learned a little bit of Hebrew, you know, because he was a real Israeli.
Boy. Now, Shirutim.
All these important words.
I ate apples with honey on Rosh Hashanah.
But he and his brothers were always talking about politics.
Always, always. And I couldn't understand most, but I picked up a lot along the way.
And I remember...
Now you do it for a living.
Yes. Always had the TV on, always on CNN. And I knew nothing about the world.
I knew Tina Turner, David Bowie.
I was on top of that world.
I knew nothing about what was happening.
And there was Bush, I think, either...
I can just remember it.
I'm in his living room like...
He says, oh, there's that Bush.
I said, yeah, I think it'll be good for America.
And he looks at me. His head whips around.
What?! He's the biggest criminal in the world!
Don't you know that he owns all the oil?
And I was so...
I'm like, really? I had no idea.
And I think most of the world is like that still today.
You watch the Today Show.
Read your People magazine.
And so, yes, people in the region have known this forever and have discussed it.
And it's been withheld from us.
And still is. It has to be withheld from us.
And just as a little extra bonus...
It has to be withheld. Hello.
And along the same sidetrack, and now you kind of understand why Victoria Nulens is so beside herself about Putin, because she was part of the, you know, we own the world.
We are the world. We are the children.
We are running the show.
And what is this guy?
He's ruining it. Not just that.
He's a troublemaker. But we were raping Russia.
Everyone was in there making money.
We did the best we could. Yeah, but everyone got kicked out.
Yes, they did.
Everyone's paycheck got slashed.
All the NGOs kicked out.
All the connections to the oil industry kicked out.
It was a great gambit while it lasted.
And then this Putin guy came in and ruined it.
And do you remember how Biden, and we've forgotten about it, but the narrative was, all right, CIA, if you're in Russia, you can contact the CIA. You can work for us.
And Putin, oh, he's got cancer.
He's got Parkinson's.
He's not going to die. Oh yeah, he got into a train wreck.
He's almost dead. He's almost dead.
He got a broken back.
He got into an accident. He doesn't look good.
It's no good. There was a million things wrong with Putin.
Yeah. They can't even do a proper regime change anymore.
You know why? Because the Russian people like him.
They actually like us.
The Russian people are like, eh, we like you guys.
How are you guys doing in America?
Send some more MTV our way.
We love your Dr. Pepper.
And McDonald's.
We just changed the name.
Nick Donald's. The ski.
Nick Donald's ski. So, we're not falling for this nonsense, which, just as an aside, started 33 years ago.
Just throw out a little magic number for you.
There you go. That was a good little exposition there.
Thank you. I have a surprising clip here.
Since you brought this in the last week, The third hour of the CBS This Morning, is that what it was?
That horrible clip? CBS This Morning's new third hour with the two dingbats.
And one of them, by the way, the guy, Jokapul or whatever his name is, is married to Katie Turr.
Really? And he's had a vasectomy and he brags about it.
Does he look like a lesbian? Not yet.
It's fairly recent. So he will slowly look like a lesbian.
It's coming. It's coming. And I was looking him up to do some background on him.
And Katie Turr seems that she was raised by two lesbians.
Well, her dad is trans.
Well, okay. And her middle name is Bear.
Bear? B-E-A-R. Katie Bear Tur.
Katie Bear Tur.
I don't know.
There's an interesting documentary about her dad.
He was a very famous chopper pilot journalist in Los Angeles.
And then one day he decided, all right, now I want to wear a dress.
I'm a chick. Yeah.
It's a very... I think it's on YouTube.
Well, then he married... Yeah, but I think...
Well, I think she's estranged from him.
Yeah, because... She's estranged from one of them.
She's a transphobe. She is.
And so... Yeah, she...
No, she likes it when it happens to little kids.
She doesn't like it when it happens to her own family.
That's what I... No, that's...
Well, that's pretty classic. That was my takeaway from the documentary.
I haven't seen this.
It's on Netflix, maybe.
I've seen it. I was like, I had no idea.
Yeah, she completely shunned him.
Yeah. Yeah, so what was the point of Katie Turner?
I don't think daughters, in general, like the idea of their dad not being their dad forever.
Yeah, witness Bruce Jenner.
And the Kardashians, they kicked him out of the house.
Go live in your own house.
Anyway, they were having trouble explaining how airplanes work.
Yeah, what's an airfoil?
Well, turns out...
Airplanes, it's a mystery. It's a mystery how they fly.
Turns out, this is indeed a mystery.
This is from the Scientific American podcast, you know, Scientific American.
And the Scientific American, around 1985, I think, or 86, went woke.
The magazine has been downhill ever since.
Yeah. And it basically stinks.
And they can't explain it either.
So this doesn't surprise me.
They can't explain how it works either.
How do planes stay in the air?
Not even Einstein could figure that one out.
After devising his general theory of relativity, he turned to a different problem, how planes fly.
He even designed his own wing called the Cat's Back Wing.
But when it was tested, the unimpressed pilot reported that it flew like a quote-unquote pregnant duck.
Yeah. That seems to have been the last time Einstein grappled with aeronautics.
From there, he focused on other things, like finding a unified theory of everything, which apparently was easier than figuring out how planes fly.
Now make no mistake, we do actually understand how heavier than air flight works quite well.
There are two classical theories.
Each is correct in application, but neither fully explains flight without leaving some unsightly loose threads.
They are incomplete. The first dates to 1738 via the mathematician Daniel Bernoulli, who modeled air as a fluid.
Bernoulli postulated that a fluid's pressure decreases as its velocity increases.
And vice versa. So, when air flows over a curved wing, it moves faster over the top than the bottom.
That generates lift. But Bernoulli's theory did not adequately explain why planes can still fly inverted, or why their wings can work even when they're flat and not curved at all.
The second theory of flight traces back to our good friend Isaac Newton and his classical mechanics.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, right?
Well, air has mass.
And so when air is displaced by a wing cutting through it, other air rises up underneath it, and that is lift.
Newton's theory very nicely explains what Bernoulli's couldn't, like why inverted
flight works, and why wings of many different shapes can still let you fly.
But it doesn't fully explain why there's a region of low pressure atop the wing during
flight regardless of its shape.
In many respects, modern approaches to modeling and explaining heavier-than-air flight trace
back to these two competing classic ideas.
The problem is that real-world systems are messy and complex, and defy being squeezed
into a short, simple explanation like this video.
So where does this leave us?
While it may be true that not even aeronautical engineers fully understand how planes fly,
rest assured, they understand well enough to make flying in one very safe and very routine.
I find it interesting that Scientific American was able to explain how WTC-7 fell, but they can't explain why airplanes stay in the air.
I find this whole thing somewhat anti-intellectual.
Yes. These discussions that all of a sudden, why are they even talking about this?
We know how they fly. Airfoils.
And yeah, you could say a plane can fly upside down if it has enough power.
I mean, a rocket flies, it doesn't have an airfoil.
How does that work? Here's something I did not know until just recently.
Fredericksburg, Texas native, Jacob Brodbeck, who moved to Fredericksburg from Germany in 1846.
In 1860, he flew with an airplane, with a wing.
Now, this is 44 years before the Wright brothers, with their Kitty Hawk design.
And a model of this airplane is at the Gillespie Airport FBO. Now, he only flew for 100 feet until he crashed into his brother's chicken coop.
But he did fly before the Wright brothers.
And they used the same...
He had the wing design.
He had a giant spring where the Wright brothers had a bicycle mechanism where they were pedaling.
He had just a prop with a spring, so it went brrrr, and then it crashed.
But it flew. Well, I'll be doggone.
Yeah, I'm telling you. That's why we celebrate him.
He never got the recognition he deserved.
Which seems pretty common in everything.
You can find some predecessor to pretty much any invention.
Yeah, like podcasting.
Hey man, I invented podcasting before you did.
At some point, they've been trying to cut you out of the picture.
Forever. Forever.
If it wasn't for me.
That's right, and I appreciate it.
Promoting you. I appreciate it.
On the Wikipedia. Relentlessly, I might add.
On the Wikipedia for podcasting, there's people like, no, I digitized my radio shows on cassette and put them on the internet and I invented podcasting.
Yeah. There'll be a lot of that.
Oh, there is a lot of that.
It's okay. There's no check in this, by the way.
There's no check.
There's only the honor. And even that, even that's taken away from me.
They tried to anyway.
Yes, they did. Let's play a couple of TikTok clips.
Oh, why not? It's been way too long since I've had some TikTok clips.
Yeah, I love these TikTok clips because TikTok is really the voice of the people.
The voice of the people.
Yes, and as we know, TikTok and turban tossing will take down the Iranian regime.
No, I have two. Okay.
I have the, I have what you call the, I says Blam Man, but it's a black man, he's a black guy, and he's just speaking, Sheryl Hodge, I sent this to Mo, and he's, he said, yeah, well, you know, some people have a clue, some people don't.
Wait, what did, no, why did you send this to Mo, and what did Mo say?
I said, what do you think of this guy? If I were a rich white racist that hated black people, this is what I would do.
I would handpick young black boys, mostly from single mother households, who want to be rappers and pay them millions of dollars to make music geared to destroying the black communities.
I would make young black women become dependent on government assistance, but only if there's no father in the home.
I will dump drugs into poor black communities, incentivize them to sell it and use it to cope with their problems, then put them in prison.
I will turn black women against black men, making them disrespect them and hate them.
I will use black celebrities, daytime TV, magazines, and media to help push this.
I will then poison their food and make it cheap so that poor blacks can afford to buy it, which will slowly kill them off.
Then I'll implement liberal politicians and celebrities.
They'll sell them truthful-sounding lies.
They'll pretend to relate to them.
They'll make them think that Republicans are only for the rich and we're for the poor.
Even though we live in big houses and safe neighborhoods far away from you poor blacks.
And for my final trick, I'll cut them off at the source.
I'll stop them from reproducing.
I'll make abortion their get-out-of-jail-free card.
I won't even have to kill black people.
I'll just stop them from ever being born.
And I'll make sure black women have abortions at a much higher rate than white women.
They'll never suspect a thing because we'll make up some catchy slogan.
Something like, my body, my choice.
Yeah! That'll get them.
We'll keep them broke, emotional, childless, and fatherless.
And the best part is they'll still vote for us.
Well, congratulations. You just summed up 100 episodes, over 350 hours of MoFacts with Adam Curry in 1 minute and 28 seconds.
Yeah, he felt a similar leap.
I'm sure he did. So that was that.
And the other one I have, which is, you know, over at the dinner table this last week, we had J.C. lamenting, and I think it was backed up by pretty much everybody, You can't hire Gen Z people because they're asocial.
They're not socialized correctly.
They're dumb. They don't know that you should show up for work on time.
They feel that they should be getting more money than they're getting.
And it's just the whole thing is a mess.
And I thought that this woman and her quarters lament pretty much exemplify what I would think was a Gen Z dummy.
I'm an idiot, and here's why.
My laundry machine takes quarters.
Naturally, I'm like, where does one just get quarters?
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go on Amazon and buy quarters.
You can buy rolls of quarters on Amazon.
I'm like, perfect, I'll do that.
72 rolls for $10?
The math doesn't equal, but that's a score.
I'm getting 72 rolls of quarter sleeves and quarters in them for $10.
I'm like, okay, stupid.
Amazon's losing money. Get the package.
Empty. It's just 72 plain...
Quarter roll sleeves with no quarters in them.
I don't really know what I was thinking.
I just went to Amazon.
You can buy $10 worth of quarters, 2024.
Uncirculated quarters, I will say.
$24.99. And yes, $9.99 for 72-piece performed coin wrappers.
Yeah, she figured that the wrappers came with the quarters in them.
For $9.99. Well, that doesn't make sense, but they're taking a beating.
I'm all in.
This kind of idiocy is beyond me.
Not all Gen Z are idiots, John.
And many of them listen to our show.
No, there's no such thing as an all-idiot generation.
It's just that there's too many of them.
And the people, the ones who listen to our show who are sharp, I'm assuming, I think most of them are, they all agree with this.
Yeah. They don't vote, so it doesn't matter.
So California's got the plastic bags.
I got a couple of clips of the plastic bags.
You know, we had made plastic bags illegal.
Yes, yes. And then we made them illegal again.
Why did we make them illegal again?
We made them illegal in 2017, 2018, and...
I thought you made, so can you use paper bags or you're not allowed to use paper bags?
No, paper's fine. We used to always have paper bags before the plastic bag revolution.
Wait, wait, wait. Are they completely outlawed or can you pay to use them?
Oh, well, this is all covered in the story.
Ten years ago, California approved the first statewide ban on plastic bags.
And then something unexpected happened.
Over the years, the state reported more plastic grocery bags in landfills.
Now California is trying again with a new law.
NPR's Bill Chappell has been reporting on this story.
Hey, Bill. Hey, glad to be here.
So, Bill, walk us through this new California law.
What does it do exactly?
Well, starting in 2026, when customers go to a grocery store or lots of other retailers, they're going to have less options than they used to have.
They're going to need to pay at least 10 cents for a paper bag or put stuff in a reusable bag or just carry it out in their hands.
As we mentioned, California already had a ban, so what went wrong with it?
The state was trying to ban the single-use thin bag that everybody has seen and likely used, but stores could give shoppers different plastic bags for a small fee, just 10 cents.
But those bags were thicker, and in theory they were reusable, but in practice that became an even bulkier type of bag waste.
So those thicker plastic bags were like some sort of loophole for grocery stores or something?
Well, that's how it kind of played out.
This law was first passed in 2014, and then there was this long delay of getting it actually in force.
What basically happened was these thicker bags sort of Came on the scene during that delay, is my understanding.
And the state's recycling agency, CalRecycle, says nearly 100,000 more tons of plastic bags went into landfills in 2021 than in 2018.
So if the overall goal was to cut down on how many of these bags were going to landfills, it totally did not work.
I blame Californians.
You guys are polluting the earth, you horrible callies.
I'm not going to argue this point with you.
This is no good what you're doing out there.
This stupid idea of banning the little bags in the first place, and then they get nothing but these thick bags, which are now double-use bags.
You can use them over and over, but nobody does that.
They just throw them out. Yeah, or you used to pick up dog poop and then throw it out.
Yeah. Well, here we go with part two of this.
Explaining just a bit more.
The ban also took place just before the COVID-19 pandemic came in.
Experts started wondering, like, trying to figure out how the coronavirus was spreading.
Reusable bags were actually banned from grocery stores for a while because there was a fear that bags could spread COVID-19.
Okay, so forgive me, but what is so bad about plastic bags?
The plastic bag industry says these bags are recyclable, but that has been something that's been said for years and not done for years.
So when I talked to CalRecycle, the state recycle agency, they told me they had not identified facilities that recycle plastic bags in the state of California.
So these bags are, you know, they're thin, they're soft, they're really hard to process.
They tend to jam up equipment, and that gets really expensive to fix and shuts down a line where people have to go in and manually, like, take stuff out.
So California officials are just saying there's a public perception in some quarters that plastics can be recycled really easily, but they're saying that's just not the case.
How does this ban fit into the bigger fight against, you know, just plastic waste in general?
There's a lot of momentum right now for taking responsibility off of consumers and shifting it toward companies, like toward plastic producers and oil and gas giants like ExxonMobil that derive the polymers.
So... Governor Gavin Newsom signed this bill into law in late September.
And the day after that, California's attorney general sued ExxonMobil, saying the company has been deceiving people for years about how recyclable plastic even is.
So this ban doesn't start to affect people in stores until 2026.
So there's time for the landscape to shift some more between now and then.
Oh, brother.
Welcome to California.
You know, I've stopped saying it.
I mean, you're going to go down with that shit.
You're going to go down. You're going down with that ship.
Yeah, well, it's not going down yet.
Since they brought up COVID in the beginning of that clip, I've been waiting to do this.
And by the way, that was a reminder that if you remember the early days of COVID, if you touch something...
You were going to die. Yeah, and I remember going to a grocery store and people all masked up and this woman with her husband and he grabbed some hamburger buns or something and she screamed at him.
Somebody may have touched that packaging!
And they were just freaked out over this.
And this is the era when you have to remember the people wearing the mask, the visor, and blue gloves.
Remember these guys?
Yes, yes.
I mean, I only remember them from pictures because they were in your land, in California.
Oh, you had them too.
No, well...
In Austin for sure.
No, Austin, yeah. I remember the day when I was like, I was so sick.
I'm going into Whole Foods without a mask.
I remember that day.
And no one seemed to care.
Just one other guy looked at me.
He didn't have a mask. I went, hey, got your brother.
Yeah, because everyone thinks you're carrying.
Carrying disease.
I've been waiting for a clip about this because I've been following it and I have no idea who these Japanese dudes are who are sitting at the desk and the panel.
I know the story and the story is self-replicating mRNA.
And so I keep getting emails like, this is horrible.
This is crazy.
This is mRNA that replicates and that spreads to other people.
And it's a story. It's a story. And I could not get, you know, it's a bunch of Japs.
Sorry. I didn't mean for it to come out like that.
Wow. They're just sitting there.
There goes our audience.
All three of them. They're just talking and it's all subtitled and voiceovers.
This is no good for the show.
And then I get a clip.
It's from the Rescue the Republic rally, which took place in Washington, D.C. Not a lot of exposure.
I think there were about 20,000 people there, but it rained.
So it kind of sucked.
I think that really put a damper on the whole rally.
But Dr. Malone, who doesn't know him, he spoke and he spoke about this very topic.
So I wanted to share that with the group.
So here's what's going on.
I just came back from Tokyo where they had a 30,000 person rally
because they're about to deploy self-replicating RNA vaccines.
Japan is being used as the guinea pigs for the world for this new technology.
The Japanese people are calling this the third atomic bomb.
This is being deployed in a cooperative agreement between a US company, Arcturus, an Australian company called CSL, and a Japanese company.
Now, the CEO of the Japanese company recently gave a press conference.
What did he say? He said, anybody that is spreading misinformation, we're gonna go after him legally.
We're gonna try to have them jailed.
If you say anything against their self-replicating RNA vaccine technology that's never been rigorously tested, we don't know if it's gonna infect other people.
We don't know if it's gonna spread.
We know it's gonna replicate.
We don't know if it's gonna get into the brain of the elders in Japan.
But we do know that if we say anything about these concerns, the CEO is going to come after us and try to put us in jail.
That's the new world order.
That's what we're coming into.
That's what they want to implement on us.
They want to shut us down.
They want to prevent us from speaking.
They want to completely control the narrative.
And they want to be able to deploy psychological warfare on all of you to control you, to train you, to respond.
To the fear narratives about avian influenza and monkeypox and whatever it is they want to deploy next in order to control you, in order to teach you to shut up, sit down, stay in your homes, and do what you're told.
Now, I'm not okay with that.
I don't think you're okay with that.
And I hope that you join all of us in fighting this new tyranny.
I don't know. Sounds a bit like they're going to pull down the grid so we can't have votes.
Sounds like bullcrap in some way or other.
Well, Sir Mark and Dame Astrid will be with them.
Yeah, ask them about this, about being jailed.
First, I'm going to ask if they have any self-replicating RNA on them because, you know, stay away.
They're from Japan. I'm sure you can be certain they don't.
And then I have one other Big Pharma story, which as I was writing up the rundown for my clips and stuff this morning, I was typing too fast.
And instead of Big Pharma, I wrote Big Harma.
I'm like, oh, that's kind of interesting.
Cute. Yes. This is the follow-on from NPR about the failure of 23andMe.com.
And they have a nice little intro here with a reminder of how stupid everybody was to go along with this dumb scheme despite warnings from your No Agenda show.
It was an idea that caught on.
Pay about $100 for a saliva kit and weeks later, learn all about your ancestry.
The company behind this 23andMe was a hit.
It was worth billions, Oprah raved about it, and countless people took to social media to share their experience, like TikToker Danielle Edwards.
Okay, I did it, y'all. I finally took my 23andMe kit.
Woo! Jesus.
All right. Spitting in a tube.
So, I'm concentrating.
I'm trying to think about anything, but what I have to do, which is spitting in this tube...
More than 14 million people spit in a 23andMe tube.
People were holding spit parties.
The company was part of the zeitgeist.
But there was one big business problem.
Nobody needed to do a 23andMe test twice.
It was one and done.
And now 23andMe stock is worth pennies.
Financial news networks like CNBC have been blaring the news.
It has since lost 99.9% of its value from its $6 billion market cap peak.
Then there were two other big blows.
Last year, the company was hit with a major data breach of customer passwords.
And last week, its entire board of directors resigned.
Some analysts say 23andMe could go out of business by next year.
Which raises the question, what's going to happen with the genetic data it has from millions of people?
So, we never realized at the time, and I'm kind of mad at myself for not saying, what kind of business is this where you only have your...
There's no repeat business for customers.
You spit once and you're done.
Once you got everybody to spit, what else do you have?
And we... Well...
We did shortcut it.
Yes, it was an obvious short, but...
Or a put.
Whatever the case, it's possible that if they had marketing people there that knew more than, you know, Sergey Brin, they would have come up with other things, other ancillary products, other things they could do, other services they could provide.
Because when you have a customer, you capture a customer, you should be able to sell them other things.
Books. Books. I mean, anything.
But they did nothing.
It's their own fault.
Most businesses are one and done.
If you take it to a base level and they come up with other ideas, you get your repeat customers not necessarily from buying a second car from your brand.
So they didn't have any skills.
Right. And the big joke for us was, oh, you're going to do the 23andMe?
I'll bet you that there's at least 1% Askenazi Jew, because everybody had some Askenazi Jew in them.
Now the question is, what is going to happen to the data of your DNA? Well, here's the answer.
Even if the company goes under, that data could change hands.
That may surprise some customers.
They might believe that the information is more protected than it actually is.
That's Anya Price.
She's a law professor at the University of Iowa's College of Law
who focuses on genetic privacy.
She says federal health privacy protections like HIPAA don't apply here
since 23andMe is outside of the health care realm.
What the company does depends on what customers agree to when they signed up for the service.
Some states like California and Florida do give consumers rights
over their genetic data.
If customers are really worried, they could ask for their samples
to be withdrawn from these databases under those laws.
When I asked 23andMe what it plans to do with all the genetic data if it goes out of business, a spokesman wouldn't say.
But he did mention a partnership with pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline or GSK. Wow.
Wow. Wow.
second-guessing that decision, they might be out of luck.
I couldn't go to GSK and say, hey, my sample was given to you.
I want that taken out if it was anonymized, right?
Because they're not going to re-identify it just to pull it out of the database.
The 23andMe spokesman said the company is committed to being transparent with whatever happens to customer data,
saying its core value is, quote, behind every data point is a human being.
And there you go.
You're screwed. GlaxoSmithKline.
How are you screwed?
They say it's anonymous.
Tell me how you're screwed. They say it's anonymous.
I'm not believing that.
Well, let's assume it is anonymous or not anonymous.
How are you screwed? If it's not anonymous, you're screwed.
If it's anonymous, maybe.
Because they can create all kinds of things tailored for you to kill you.
Who's they? GlaxoSmithKline.
Why would they do that?
How are you screwed? I think you're exaggerating the problem.
Well, why would Moderna and Pfizer create vaccines that kill you?
I'm arguing for the sake of argument, because I agree it's a dumb idea to give this information away, because it could be weaponized in terms of a genetic-targeted virus that could be developed in China, because you know if they're against the general public, it's all white people. People.
Against all black people.
Yes. I mean, we've been trying to kill off the black population in Africa, if you want to go conspiratorial, since the invention of AIDS. But they didn't spit in the tube.
They didn't spit in the tube.
You know, you get these people to volunteer their information, which is probably a mistake.
Yes. And everyone put it out there on Ancestry, and they all uploaded to all these open-source databases.
Mm-hmm. Well, that way they can find out who their relatives are.
Yeah, which also didn't turn out to be such a great idea.
Yeah, I found a relative. I found my relative.
That guy's a douche. How many times I heard that story?
Yeah. Anyway, I played it more to say, listen to your No Agenda show.
We're not that dumb. We've tried to protect you.
I think so. We're here for you.
We love you. I only have one clip that I can play before we finish.
Actually, since you brought this up, let's bring up the vax clip.
People aren't taking up on the vaxes.
In fact, it's gotten out of control.
People are so skeptical that we have this report.
New data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows a drop in vaccination rates among U.S. kindergartners in the current school year.
As NPR's Maria Godoy reports, the proportion of children with exemptions from vaccines rose to a record high compared to the 2023 school year.
The CDC says about 127,000 kindergartners had exemptions from at least one vaccine in the last school year.
That's about 3.3% of all kindergartners, an all-time high.
Overall, nearly 93% of kindergartners had all the required vaccines during the last school year.
Vaccination rates against measles dropped from the year before, and they remained below the 95% threshold considered crucial to prevent an outbreak in a community.
Considered by who? Well, we're getting through to them, finally. Did you have another one you wanted to play?
Oh, you know, I mean, we could skip it, but let's see.
Yes, I do have this because this really annoyed me.
Somebody, one of our producers sent me this.
This is from Nebraska. Because when I heard this from Nebraska, Nebraska Public Radio, there's two gotchas in this little announcement.
I want you, you'll spot them both immediately.
It's about Nebraska's Black Maternal Health Month.
Okay. Tuesday marks the beginning of Nebraska's Black Maternal Health Month.
Advocates are using this time of year to bring awareness to health disparities among black birthing people.
Nebraska Public Media's Cassidy Arena was at the launch event.
The U.S. has the highest maternal mortality rates in the industrialized world, and Nebraska has one of the highest rates at 26.2%.
This is what Nebraska Black Maternal Health Month addresses.
Ashley Spivey is the executive director of the reproductive justice organization IB Black Girl.
She says this month is the time to call for more support in Black maternity care.
We have an opportunity to have impactful change today, not tomorrow, not seven years from now, but right now.
We can make a commitment to changing the experiences for our Black pregnant people and folks with the capacity for pregnancy and root that in joy and abundance.
IB Black Girl will host maternal health events throughout the month, including networking events and community baby showers.
I'm Cassidy Arena, Nebraska Public Media News.
I'm very confused by this report.
What exactly is going on?
They're doing baby showers.
Well, for one thing, there's a lot of virtual signaling about birthing people.
Yes, I heard that one.
Birthing people. And the other one was, at the end of the clip, was...
Oh, no, the first one was birthing person.
Yes. And then the other one was birthing people.
I mean, they can't say woman, I guess, in Nebraska...
If you're black, I guess.
They also can't say maternal then, because maternal is very specific to matriarch.
Don't they have to change that as well?
I don't know what they're up to.
I just found a clip to be one of those makes your teeth itch clips.
I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
Well, if your teeth are itching, then don't worry.
Help is on the way. We have the tip of the day.
We've got our end of show mixes.
We have all kinds.
We've got groovy stuff coming.
We have Commodores. We've got the meetups.
And right now, John is going to take us through to $50 of our supporters, our producers, for episode 1701, the Star Trek donation episode.
You know, this is a short, short list.
It's like, well, people.
But we'll start with Mount Shasta, California, and our producer there, who is Dame Danny, and she came with 1701.
Did I get it? Star Trek.
Got it. Dreb Scott, our buddy, George Duke-at-Large in Oceanside, California, 1701.
Yeah, beautiful.
Brian Langsdorf in Buell, Idaho, 10749.
He's got a note you can look at if there's anything important there.
He's got a birthday call out for sure.
Let me check here.
While you're doing that, I'll continue reading.
Hold on, hold on. I have it here.
He says...
For my 75th birthday, I asked my wife to donate the amount of my birth date, which is 107.49, to no agenda and close as a check for 107.49.15 for handling.
I hope this starts a donation trend.
Well, thank you very much.
Donate the date.
That's right. Thomas Hurtado in Fontana, California, comes in with 100.
There's Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina.
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and boobs with 8008, a boob donation.
Yes. Chris Terhart in Abbotsford, BC, 70.
David Cox in Austin, Texas, 6325.
Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6006, small boobs.
Sir Tom Dari in DeForest, Wisconsin, 55-10.
Double nickels on the dime.
Mark Hardwick in Aledo, Texas, 53-33.
Michael Gates, a 52-80.
And now we have the long list of $50 donors, which consists of three people.
Chris Conacher in Anchorage, Alaska.
Alex Zavala in Kyle, Texas.
And Kerry Jackson in Watertown, Tennessee.
And that's our entire list of donors from $50 to $200.
Very short, very small, very pathetic, actually.
Very demure, very mindful.
Yeah, demure. And so I want to thank these folks.
Thank everybody for helping, especially the Commodores, for helping us complete show 1701, the Star Trek episode.
Yes, and thank you, Alex Savala, who is, of course, Sir Alex Savala.
Somehow he never remembered to put that in there.
Thank you all very much, and as always, our sustaining donors who come in under 50 or people who come in under 50 for reasons of anonymity, since we don't read below that number, thank you so much.
Go to noagendadonations.com.
That is where you can support us.
Time, talent, or treasure, it's all accepted, but we do love you, and you love us back long times.
Noagendadonations.com karma for those who need it.
You've got karma.
And I do need to hand out a health karma for Darren O'Neill's dad, who was in the hospital with congestive heart failure, possibly infected gallbladder surgery coming up in a couple of months.
Ouch. Oh no, it's that from a couple of months ago.
That might have done it.
Oh my God. Let some bacteria travel to his heart.
This is heartbreaking.
Literally. He's had an artificial valve for 25 years.
We'll know for sure tomorrow after another test.
Either way, not great. Prayers for him, brother.
And I'll do a real health karma here.
There you go. You've got karma.
And please, again, remember us.
Noaddendeddonations.com.
It's your birthday birthday.
We have more birthdays than $50 donors.
Ron Cooper turns 54 today.
Ventana wishes her husband, Kevin Jones, a happy one, turning 36 today.
Sir 1% turns 49 tomorrow.
And Sir 1% wishes Vladimir Putin a very happy birthday, also celebrating tomorrow.
Tyler Hooker says happy birthday to Donna Jean, his mom Donna Jean Hooker.
Tomorrow, Brian Langsdorf turns 75 tomorrow.
And Kevin McKenna, a.k.a.
Babb, which is his daughter.
Babb? Really? Bob?
Babb? His daughter, Aniston, a happy birthday.
She is turning 8 years old.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
It's your birthday, yeah!
Do-do-do-do-do-do title changes!
Turn and facelessly dice changes!
Don't wanna be a douchebag!
No douchebag on deck here, we have two title changes!
Sir Ryan becomes Baron Ryan, protector of Central Oregon, and Sir Doctor 1% becomes Baron of Liberland.
So he will be Sir Doctor 1% Viscount of Liberland.
There you go. Thank you all for supporting us.
Thank you for your birthdays. Thank you to the title changes who, of course, have upped their amount of support to the best podcast in the universe.
And now it is time, once again, to welcome the new Commodores into the realm of Commodoreship
the White Shepherd, Commodore Dude Name Ben Name Ben, Commodore Sir Dude Name Ralph, Commodore
Cooper, Commodore of Dixie, Washington, Commodore Eric Curtis, Commodore Baronet Fly Knot,
Commodore Title of the Practically Perfect, Commodore Dwayne Melanson, Commodore Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, Commodore Tabitha Soaps, Commodore Brian Telekey, arriving!
Go to NoAgendaRings.com.
That's where you can find the information to receive your official pronunciation, your entire certificate.
The paperwork. The paperwork, yes.
That's what I was looking for. Hey, we have One Night, One Dame to bring up on the podium.
I got you. I got it right here. I see it.
Very nice. That's Tabitha.
Tabitha Soaps and Zach N. Come on up, both of you.
Joining the very exclusive group of the No Agenda Knights and Dames, I am very proud to pronounce the K the as...
Dame Tabitha, Keeper of Awesomeness, and Sir Nanook of the West.
For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Cowboy Killers and Calvados, Apples and Honey, Grass Finish, Ribeyes, and Chocolate Babka.
Along with that, we've got some Redheads and Ryes.
We've got Ruben S. Lumen and Rosé, Geisha, Lasake, Vaca, Manila, Bong, Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Breast Milk and Pavloon, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, and of course, the Mutton and Mead!
And you also can go to NoAgendaRings.com if you're not there for a Commodore ship by itself.
That is where you can find our fine-looking No Agenda Knight and Dame ring.
It's a signet ring, so along with that we give you some wax to seal your important correspondence and also a certificate of authenticity.
Make sure you give us a mailing address and a ring size.
There's a handy ring sizing guide right there.
Thank you all for supporting No Agenda.
No Agenda! The perfect complement to your No Agenda show experience is visiting a No Agenda meetup.
These are producer-organized.
They are organized at noagendameetups.com.
This is where you will meet children from other lands.
Some even walk off into the sunset together.
There's never been a fight.
never been any kind of fracas at a NOAA agenda meetup because everyone comes
together, hangs out together, and often wind up helping each other in trying
times such as we've had recently. There is one taking... no, let's see, there's two
taking place today. The TMI evacuation zone October surprise is now underway at
Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania. And the IndyNA tribal
October surprise meetup also underway now at Blind Owl Brewery Indianapolis, Indiana. Hello! Wave back, it's usually about
a hundred people there.
And on Thursday, our next show day, the Northern Wake Public Slave Gathering
will kick off at 6 o'clock at Hoppy Endings and that is in Raleigh, North
Carolina.
Man, that's a long list that goes all the way through to January.
Let me see. There's a couple in Texas.
Bedford, Texas. Bastrop, Texas.
Also, of course, the big October 18th, Fredericksburg, Texas meetup.
Curry and the Keeper will be there.
It's going to be a hootenanny.
And Florida is also working on a meetup.
And they sent in their own little promo to make it official.
Hey y'all, I just wanted to invite you down to the OK Gun Corral for a day of shooting at the range in Okeechobee, Florida on Sunday, October 20th and 11 a.m.
We're going to have a professional with us, so don't y'all worry about a thing.
Just come dressed to shoot some clays and don't forget to sign your waiver.
All this and more at noagendameetups.com.
Yeehaw! Remember, guns good, knives bad.
See y'all soon!
They do a lot of interesting things there in Florida.
Make sure you check that out.
Thank you all very much for organizing your meetups.
Thank you for attending them.
You will enjoy this.
It's like eating potato chips.
You have one you just can't stop.
You'll keep going. You'll go to every single one around the world.
There's at least ten a week all around the globe.
Noagendameetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.
It's easy. Sometimes you wanna It's like a party.
And this is the portion of the show where we like to determine what we're going to play at the very end of the show, also known as the ISO choosing moment.
We get them from all over.
And I have two.
You seem to have a lot of them.
I have four.
There's not that many. Why don't you play yours first?
All right, well, let's start with Vegit.
Vegit, okay. Not my thing, personally, as a vegetarian.
Okay. Okay, well I didn't go over.
Scandal. Scandal and redemption.
It's not really floating my boat just yet.
Okay, how about how? How do they do it?
Okay, yeah, it's punchy.
Possibility. Go with great podcast.
Great podcast.
Well, I think I can compete with that.
How's this one? I know about work.
I'm a podcaster. Hmm?
Okay, so far that's a swing and a miss.
And there's this one.
Dvorak scores! I don't even know where that came from.
No. No.
I think this is the winner.
Here it is. Great podcast.
That's the winner for me.
You know why? It's clear and loud.
Do you know why? Because she says, gah?
No, because we do a great podcast.
Hello, it's simple like that.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, the moment I've been waiting for is John's Pro Tip of the Day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JC. And sometimes Adam.
All right. I have a pre-tip.
I'm excited. A pre-tip?
I got a note from Keith asking me, do you recall mentioning something recently about a tool to save convert videos from other platforms into audio files?
Not really. But I want to say, if you want to, you got your stuff going on in the computer, you want to convert to an audio file, get a free copy of Audacity.
Oh, wow. That's your tip, huh?
And then, no, it's not my tip, it's the pre-clip.
Oh, that's a pre-tip.
Okay, pre-tip. So, Audacity, you have to dick with the settings a little bit, but it will record system audio.
And then, so you just play a video and you push the button and it'll record whatever is being played and it turns into an audio file.
Then you can screw with it.
I don't understand what this tip is.
I'm confused. Well, he wants to know what he can use to play, to create audio files on his computer.
Well, what would you recommend?
Well, no, but you didn't really explain how to do it.
I mean, you've got to set up the output to the input.
Yeah, no, as I said, sometimes it's complicated, but it will record the system's sound.
Yes, yeah. You have to change a couple of settings here and there to get it to work on something.
I'm not going to go through the whole thing.
These are tips. They're not tutorials.
Get Audacity. There's your tip.
Hey, are you starting to podcast?
You should get Audacity. It is a tip.
It's a tip, not a tutorial.
That's my motto. All right.
I need a new jingle, everybody.
It's a tip, not a tutorial.
Hey, wait. I get my tip, real tip of the day.
Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I was...
Jeez, that's a pre-tip.
Okay. Well, you're confusing me now.
We don't... The pre-tip tip. Yeah, you're easily confused.
So let's... I just want to recommend a TV show.
Now, if you get over-the-air broadcast, which everyone should do, you get a cheap antenna and you stick it on it.
All TVs have a tuner.
11 bucks. 11 bucks.
Whatever, however far away.
You stick it on there and you point it at whatever mountains nearby or wherever you've got your transmitters and boom, you can get like 100 channels probably.
And NHK is usually in the package.
Oh. So NHK has a show that I can't recommend enough.
It's called Somewhere Street.
Somewhere Street.
And if you haven't seen this show, this is the travelogue show you want to watch.
Forget... Rick Steves and all these people floating around.
No. Somewhere Street is a fantastic show because that's the way most people actually travel.
It's some random guy walking through some town asking people about this and that and just having casual conversations.
Actually, it's kind of produced later.
As you can tell, it's posted up as a cute for girls voice.
Hi, how you doing? What are you doing?
Oh, I can come into your house.
They take you into people's houses, into the grocery stores.
It's just a fabulous travelogue show.
And if you can find it, watch it.
It's a killer. I think that's an excellent tip.
I'm going to do that because I have an over-the-air antenna.
Thanks to you. I'm sure you do. Of course you do.
Somewhere Street on NHK from Japan.
Now that's a tip of the day!
It's not good news, it's good advice.
John C's tip of the day.
What other podcast gives you viewing tips like that, I ask you.
None. Only the best podcast in the universe can do that.
With end of show mixes coming up, all about bombing.
We're just gonna bomb them.
Gonna bomb them hard. We have...
Oh, let me see.
Who's up next? If you're listening at the Troll Room or No Agenda Stream or on the Modern Podcast app, don't tune out because we have a walk through the mind coming up next.
I don't think I've heard this.
Is this Billy Bones? I think it is Billy Bones.
All right. Billy Bones with a three for the E. And we look forward to episode 1702, which we'll be doing for you on Thursday.
I'll have a report of Sir Mark and Dame Astrid's visit here.
And, of course, we move on towards our 17th anniversary on the 26th of October.
Right now, I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas, where they're taking down the grid.
There'll be no voting this year.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it doesn't matter if you vote or not because it's rigged, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll talk to you again on Thursday.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
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