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	Adam Curry.
	John C. DeVorah.
	Sunday, February 25th, 2024, this is your award-winning Game On Nation Media assassination episode 1637.
	This is No Agenda.
	We've got Israeli boom bases and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 16.
	6.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we all say, Happy Chinese New Year!
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
	In the morning!
	Yeah, isn't this when they start spreading some disease?
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was around this time.
	Was it three years ago?
	Four years ago?
	I can't remember now.
	I think it was almost four years ago.
	Can you believe how long we've been dealing with that bullcrap?
	Yeah, well, you know, it's what you do.
	It had to be almost four years ago because it was right when Trump was leaving office.
	Yes, and I went to... Actually, it was before that.
	During Trump's administration, he had to deal with nine months of it.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	He was blocking flights from China.
	Yeah.
	Racist.
	Xenophobe.
	And so here we are, four years later, and... Did you get your booster?
	I need to schedule.
	I'm lagging.
	And the UK Office for National Statistics, you know, they find these excess deaths very annoying.
	So what do we do, just like we do in the financial markets, when we don't like the numbers, what do we do?
	Why?
	No, we just change the way we count.
	During and since the coronavirus pandemic, we've generally seen more people die than we'd expect.
	We call these deaths above average, excess deaths.
	Different organizations have used different ways to calculate this, each with merit and particular uses.
	For example, for planning health interventions and identifying emerging threats.
	In the spirit of continuous improvement, we've been working with independent experts and those across government and the devolved nations to develop a common UK-wide approach.
	Using our new approach, today's release estimates 11,000 excess deaths.
	in 2023.
	While this is lower than our previous estimate, our new method accounts for the growth and aging of the population.
	These are key factors in understanding how many deaths we'd expect to see and whether the number of deaths is below or above this estimate.
	Looking more closely at the last months of 2023, there were actually negative excess deaths, meaning fewer deaths than average being registered.
	Further back across the pandemic, the trends and peaks in excess deaths are the same using the new method as they were under the old.
	It's important to note that our estimates of excess deaths are just that, estimates.
	They can't be counted individually, unlike death registrations, which haven't changed.
	I mean, could it get, first of all, nice music bed, Office for National Statistics?
	I mean, they just didn't like it.
	Oh, it was $11,000, so we just changed it, and now it's negative.
	So shut up, conspiracy theorists.
	And by the way, these are estimates.
	We can't really even know.
	Huh?
	The insurance companies seem to know.
	They seem to.
	Oh yeah, they're not going to go along with any of this.
	They know the numbers.
	It's, I mean, I'm just, I'm flabbergasted.
	I mean, I'm not really surprised, but still, I mean, kind of flabbergasted.
	You know?
	It's crazy.
	Uh, not quite as crazy as the latest, uh, breaking news, breaking news, breaking news, they're at it again, oh my god, we've gotta deploy fighter jets!
	Tonight, in the skies above the western United States, NORAD sending up fighter jets to track a high-altitude balloon, flying at 43,000 to 45,000 feet.
	An official tells us the balloon is some 50 feet tall with a two-foot payload.
	Its contents unknown, and they do not believe the balloon is being steered remotely.
	The military first spotting it over Utah.
	It is now drifting east.
	No word on who sent the balloon, where it's going, or what its mission might be.
	The Biden administration keenly aware it comes just a year after a Chinese spy balloon was spotted flying clear across the country.
	President Biden ordering it shot down off the coast of South Carolina.
	That balloon was much larger than the balloon currently drifting across the country.
	Its payload alone was the size of three buses.
	Tonight, the origin of this new balloon unclear, but officials telling us it does not pose a threat to national security.
	Still a lot of questions over this.
	Let's get right to Mary Ruess live at the White House tonight, and Mary, another balloon approach spotted over the U.S.
	Spider jets scrambled, as you just reported, so what's the White House saying about this tonight?
	Well, David, for now, they are continuing to closely track and monitor this.
	They've determined that as of now, this does not pose a risk to flight safety, and we're told NORAD and the FAA are closely coordinating to make sure it stays that way.
	You remember that guy who, uh... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	What does she mean by make sure it stays that way?
	Is the thing gonna morph into a flying saucer or something?
	Is it going to change?
	It's a transformer, exactly.
	Oh, this is just, I guess this is China fear, you know.
	Hey, we gotta scramble some jets.
	We need more money!
	Can you imagine how much money it costs to scramble a bunch of jets?
	I'm sure one of our producers could actually give us the figure.
	I'm sure they actually know.
	It's not like we could get it from a Pentagon audit, but yeah, I'm sure so.
	Where, by the way?
	Yes.
	Yes, do tell.
	Where is that Pentagon audit?
	Did you see that the Marine Corps passed a full financial audit?
	No.
	Yeah?
	Semper Fi.
	Yeah?
	Well, I mean... At least somebody can do the job.
	Let me see what it says here.
	Turn over the Pentagon to the Marines.
	Oh, they, uh, they, uh... That should get us some donations.
	Yeah, right.
	Full financial audit for the first time with the service announcing Friday it's fiscal 2023.
	Financial audit received an unmodified audit opinion.
	This is interesting.
	After a rigorous two-year review, how do you get a two-year review for 2023 audit?
	It's only 2024.
	They're obviously referring to a combination of 2022 and 2023.
	I guess.
	I guess.
	It's a milestone.
	Or they do time travel.
	Maybe that's it.
	It's a milestone.
	It's a beautiful thing.
	Do you remember the guy Actually, I met the guy who wrote the book about it, who had a lawn chair and he tied weather balloons to it, and he wound up flying up to, you know, like 50,000 feet, and planes were spotting him, and he had a BB gun to shoot the balloons to go back down again.
	Remember that guy?
	I remember something about it.
	Yeah.
	Is that like the one that had the kid in it?
	There was nothing in it?
	No, no, no, that was, oh man, that was the best hoax.
	Balloon Boy.
	Balloon Boy, yeah, no, this is not Balloon Boy.
	No, the guy, um, it was, it was in the late 90s, I think.
	Um, yeah, he had a whole bunch of balloons tied to, uh, tied to his lawn chair, and then he floated up.
	We should try that.
	Ah, no.
	Somebody should try that again.
	You'll scramble some fighters.
	If you're a good balloonist you could pull that off.
	It would be funny if the fighter jets were scrambled.
	He knew what he was doing.
	If the fighter jets were scrambled and then they're flying by and there's a dude in a lawn chair.
	Yeah, what if one of them thought it was funny to be strafing him?
	Come on, where's your American humor?
	We're fun at this.
	That would be humorous.
	Just wave to the jets.
	This thing was only 40,000 feet.
	You know, you can get up there for a little bit with some oxygen.
	Not too long, but it might be chilly.
	It's been done before.
	Before we get to the good stuff.
	Yes.
	I think we should at least do a little review of what happened.
	There was an election that Trump won.
	Yes.
	And Nikki Haley staying in the race even though she had her ass kicked in her own state.
	Yes.
	But she's staying in because the Democrats are keeping her going.
	I have a clip of Nikki if you want to hear a clip.
	I love it.
	Today in South Carolina, we're getting around 40% of the vote.
	Yay for us!
	That's one way of looking at it.
	By the way, the 40% of vote is only 19,000 people.
	It's not like this was, you know, some big thing.
	That's about what we got in New Hampshire, too.
	I'm gonna count it.
	I know 40% is not 50%.
	Duh.
	But I also know 40% is not some tiny group.
	It's 19,000 people.
	Big deal.
	Was it 19?
	I think it was more.
	No, no.
	I looked at the numbers.
	It was 19,000 people.
	And Trump had, you know, 22 or something.
	Nikki!
	Nikki I can't get enough of Tim Draper.
	He's financing the whole thing.
	Of course he's financing it.
	That's why she should have played his song.
	I mean, that's rude.
	Here we go!
	I can't get enough of Tim Draper.
	He's financing the whole thing.
	Of course he's financing it.
	That's why she should have played his song.
	I mean, it's rude.
	Here we go.
	Yeah.
	We need you, Nicky, right now to leave the nation.
	Nicky, Nicky, Nicky, Nicky, Nicky.
	There are huge numbers of voters in our Republican primaries who are saying they want an alternative.
	Yeah. - Yeah.
	I said earlier this week that no matter what happens in South Carolina, I would continue to run for president.
	As long as Draper finances me.
	Because he believes Trump's going to jail.
	I'm a woman of my word.
	Oh yeah, there it is.
	There's your soundbite.
	There's your soundbite.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So Nikki Haley got 298,674 votes.
	Oh, I guess I was looking at the wrong numbers then.
	I think so.
	Well this is why there are two of us.
	Thank you.
	Trump got 451,905.
	Oh wow, that's a spanking.
	A spanking of epic proportion.
	Did you see him bring up Lindy Hop Graham?
	Trump?
	They were both up there, him and the other senator.
	It was kind of weird because everyone was booing him.
	Yeah, they're booing him but they keep re-electing him, so how does that make sense?
	You want to hear it?
	Sure.
	Not a lot of people know him.
	He doesn't do too much television.
	He happens to be a little bit further left than some of the people on the stage.
	But I always say, when I'm in trouble on the left, I call up Lindsey Graham and he straightens it out.
	That's backhanded slam.
	I like that.
	Yeah, boom.
	I'll tell you.
	No, no.
	No, no.
	Remember.
	Remember.
	Remember what?
	We remember.
	Remember the Maine.
	We remember Maidan, yes, we remember.
	Warmonger, Lindsey.
	I love him, he's a good man.
	Come up here, Lindsey.
	Come up here, Lindsey.
	He looked kind of inebriated.
	He sounded okay.
	You ready?
	He sounded okay, but he was really flush, you know, kind of like he did.
	Yeah, he probably, he's one of, there's a lot of, let's put it obviously, people that are in Washington D.C.
	know how to drink.
	Yeah.
	And so they can drink a lot and still sound kind of sober.
	Yeah.
	And that's what he, I'm sure he was drinking heavily.
	He would hope, I don't know what he was hoping for, but.
	Oh, here he is.
	America, the nightmare you're facing is just about over.
	Help is on the way.
	This is the most qualified man to be President of the United States.
	He's hammered.
	He's hammered.
	He's the most qualified man to be President of the United States.
	Yeah.
	And let it be said that South Carolina created the biggest political comeback in American history.
	Yeah.
	OK, so I've got some analysis from PBS.
	Oh, well, my favorite correspondent, the Lopez woman.
	Oh, I have her later, too.
	Yes.
	The Lopez woman, you know.
	She's kind of annoying.
	You think?
	She's a little bit annoying, yes.
	She's more than a little annoying.
	And very biased.
	She's a bigoted woman, correspondent, typical PBS, I don't know, one of those hires.
	They have very few Latinos.
	A DEI hire?
	Is that what you're insinuating here?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	She's, I'm not saying she's incompetent, she's a good, she does, she doesn't flub, she's not a, but she, you can just see she's so, she's worse than anyone they've had before for being biased.
	And it's PBS.
	And I want to play three clips.
	It's PBS, it should be representative of all of America.
	It's our public broadcasters.
	Yeah, those days are, died with... What am I thinking?
	Gwen Ifill.
	That's right.
	And, and how we miss good old Gwen.
	She was good.
	She was good.
	Well, she's, I think, the one that put the kibosh on a lot of the stuff they were trying to do.
	So let's go with election analysis.
	Lopez won.
	Now for the latest.
	Laura, it's fair to say President Biden has an enthusiasm gap among some in his base.
	Who are the voters that he's having the most trouble with right now?
	He's having a lot of trouble with young voters and voters of color, Amna.
	And I spoke to Nancy Zedonkiewicz, who is a Democratic pollster with Zeta-A Research, and she recently conducted focus groups with Latino voters, black voters, and moderate Republicans.
	And especially among Latino voters, she said that there was a Hispanic woman in that group who questioned the president's message on the economy specifically, that they weren't happy when they heard the president compare U.S. inflation rates to other countries' inflation rates, trying to present what they thought was too rosy of a picture in terms of U.S. economy.
	And ultimately, Nancy Zedunkowitz said that what Democrats have is a messenger problem.
	This might be a sort of reverse coattails kind of election, where we see that statewide Democrats and congressional Democrats are carrying the president across the line.
	I can't tell you a single state right now where I've surveyed where a statewide Democrat was not more popular and exceeding the vote share of the president. - Zedunkowicz warned that this is a real problem for Democrats and it's not something that they can wish away.
	So wait a minute, so the wonderful analysis from PBS here is the Democrats have a messenger problem?
	Really?
	Gee, gee, gee, who would have thought?
	Finally, yeah, they're coming around to this conclusion.
	Because their guy is an old, abused dude?
	Who can't really communicate?
	Who can't remember things?
	Well, if they jack him up with another... No!
	No!
	That's not working anymore.
	They're letting him go.
	They're gonna... They have let... Here's my thesis.
	Or hypothesis.
	Yeah, you name it.
	Whatever you want.
	They have let him slide from the uppers as long as they can so they can really pump him up for the State of the Union Address in March.
	Because they can't keep him pumped up because he's going to blow up.
	No, he's going to explode.
	I don't know if he's going to make it.
	So he's going to get to the State of the Union and they're going to give it to him.
	He's going to be so wired for that speech that everyone's going to say, this guy's got lots of energy.
	You watch.
	I'm waiting for the State of the Union.
	That State of the Union is going to be a killer.
	All right, let's go with Lopez too.
	So the economy remains a challenging issue, but where is the president seeing any traction?
	What issues and with what voters?
	As I mentioned, Amna, Nancy Zedunkowicz spoke to moderate Republicans as well.
	And so in that focus group, they found that when they presented the contrast between President Biden and former President Donald Trump, that a lot of those moderate Republicans started to move more towards President Biden, specifically on issues like democracy, January 6, and on abortion.
	Wait, so the Republican moderates are voting because of democracy?
	Yes, yes.
	And January 6th.
	That's what's at the top of their mind.
	They're thinking, oh my God, that January 6th bullcrap.
	That I'm thinking, oh, that means I better vote for Biden because I don't want that to happen again.
	And oh, and Trump's a threat to democracy, even though everybody left and right, including now Hawaii, is trying to take him off the ballot.
	That's democratic.
	Okay, so we'll go with that analysis.
	You sound very animated and somewhat upset.
	I'm very upset.
	I'm upset with the bullcrap.
	I mean, do you really think that any Republican is voting based on January 6th?
	Uh, no.
	I don't.
	But, you know, they're going to try.
	They're going to try and push that.
	I mean, that was their big TV show.
	That was the big thing they had.
	They got Liz Cheney.
	They got everybody.
	Yeah, and every one of them got voted out shortly thereafter.
	They're desperate.
	It's obvious they're desperate.
	This lady, this pollster, she's a Democrat pollster.
	Hello?
	I mean, it's lies, lies, and statistics.
	And clip three.
	That abortion, she said, is the second most important issue that they're hearing from a lot of voters across the board, not just moderate Republicans.
	The two fixes that Democrats could have for that, she said, is that President Biden needs to be very clear about his platform for a second term and also get more surrogates out there that could boost his message.
	Oh, yeah, they need surrogates, all right.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I thought you'd catch that.
	Well, I have a... Because I've heard other analysis that says Including from Jen Psaki, who came out on one of the shows and said, oh, Biden's got to get out there more.
	He should be out in front.
	No more surrogates.
	Screw that.
	Let's have Biden.
	Is she trying to sabotage him?
	What is she doing?
	I don't know what she's up to.
	That's crazy.
	You're right.
	We got to keep him and the adrenochrome tight until the State of the Union.
	Meanwhile, Turkish radio television did an interesting report of the South Carolina primary and came up with this.
	But over the past two days in South Carolina, we've been hearing the same message from voter after voter.
	They believe only one man can defeat the president occupant of the White House.
	I voted for Donald Trump.
	We've got to get Biden out of office.
	We've got to.
	It's a shame what The South Carolina Republicans, they even have compassion for Joe Biden!
	There were very few people bucking the trend.
	Many of the votes Haley did get were from Democrats so determined to stop Trump that they temporarily switched parties.
	Now listen to this lady and tell me this is not a maniacal person.
	I voted outside of my party because I think it's important for somebody other than President Trump to have a chance.
	So I voted for Nikki Haley.
	So you're a Democrat?
	I am.
	So you're taking part in the Republican primary?
	I am.
	Yep.
	First time ever.
	My parents would be horrified.
	Tell me that person isn't deranged.
	No kidding.
	Wow.
	That was rather interesting.
	Then we, um...
	So here's the unhinged part, and the people are coming apart at the seams, and it's kind of weird.
	Bob Costas, I don't know much about sportsball, but I remember Bob Costas.
	Bob Costas was the cool, collected dude who did the sportsball announcement.
	Yeah, they actually gave him a late night show for a while.
	He took over from Tom Snyder, thinking that he could do Tom Snyder's old, it's called the Late Late Show, whatever it was called.
	He couldn't probably.
	Well, he actually could.
	Yeah, he did okay?
	He was actually pretty good, but he was not... He was not as good as Snyder.
	Wait, didn't he run into some controversy?
	Didn't he get kicked off of that because... Why do I even know this?
	But I have a feeling that he got deplatformed early on.
	I'm sure it's on his Wikipedia page.
	Because he... Didn't he have some... I'm gonna say sex scandal?
	Wasn't there something like that?
	Anyway, he was on smirconish.
	He was on smirconish.
	And the poor Bob Costa's coming apart.
	You come at this from a position of not wanting to see Trump get elected.
	You should state that at the outset, true?
	Yes, absolutely.
	He is by far the most disgraceful figure in modern presidential history.
	He's only become more disgraceful since 2016 and since 2020.
	He is a bubbling cauldron of loathsome traits, and it's only those who are actually suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome which is the way they and Fox News and all the rest of mega media try to brush aside all the legitimate criticisms of Trump.
	You have to be in the throes of some sort of toxic delusion in a toxic cult to believe that Donald Trump has ever been in any sense emotionally, psychologically, intellectually or ethically fit to be president of the United States.
	So you've got to be in some kind of cult.
	Now, hold on a second.
	Can you play the beginning of that clip again?
	Just the first couple of sentences.
	You come at this from a position of not wanting to see Trump get elected.
	You should state that at the outset, true?
	Yes, absolutely.
	He is by far the most disgraceful figure in modern presidential history.
	He's only become more disgraceful since 2016.
	So what specifically is he talking about?
	Because he's putting people into a cult.
	This is part of a narrative.
	I didn't want to do it this early in the show, but I might as well.
	There's a narrative that they've been waiting, just waiting, waiting to spring.
	And you know, it's the whole religious cult meme.
	And they've just been waiting to do this.
	And they finally got an opportunity.
	And when I say they, that's the democratic machine.
	Yeah, but I'm going to stop you before you, I want to hear this, but I'd like to know specifics here.
	If you're going to start making these accusations that all the Democrats do, oh, Trump is a criminal.
	Oh, Trump is this, he's that.
	Give me one example.
	Well, why are you asking me?
	I'm not Bob Costas.
	You're the one with the presentation.
	Bob Costas, did he ever say what these disgraces were specifically?
	What these disgraces were specifically?
	What are they?
	No, I think, hold on, hold on.
	Again, I didn't want to do this here, but I'm going to do it now.
	Let me go back to this Bob Costas thing, because at the end he says... In a toxic cult.
	That's what he says.
	This is the point.
	Have to be in the throes of some sort of toxic delusion in a toxic cult.
	This is what he's talking about.
	He likes the word toxic, so we have to assume that toxic is on the list of wordage that we're going to be hearing.
	Yes, it is.
	We kind of roll out the...
	I like toxic, by the way, it's a good word.
	I thought we had that in toxic.
	What was the, what would we call it again?
	The Trump, what was the list?
	Trump Derangement Syndrome.
	No, no, we had a list.
	We had a name for the list.
	The rotation.
	The Trump rotation.
	Yeah, the Trump rotation.
	Which is still online.
	Let's review.
	It's only 58 seconds.
	Let's see from 2016.
	Let's see if toxic was on the list.
	I have my list and you might want to see if there's anything I left out.
	This is the Trump rotation.
	There's two categories.
	There's the regular and then there's the criminal.
	But here we go.
	Ready?
	Here we go.
	Liar, incompetent, unhinged, illegitimate president, white supremacist, racist, bully, immature, Russian agent, narcissist, mean, long ties, insane, tweets too much, small hands, small penis, big red button, criminal, nerd. small penis, big red button, criminal, nerd.
	Mean, racist, immature, thin-skinned, runs the mob, has no money, unstable, fatter than 239 pounds, bankrupt, 25th Amendment should be instituted, he hates women, misogynist, holds grudges forever, plays golf a lot, obstruction of justice, money laundering, and clown.
	John!
	No, no wonder we're making America white again.
	So, no toxic on the list.
	You're right, it's new.
	It's new for the list.
	But they're going with a different tact.
	It's been the white Christian nationalist for a while, and now we have to make that into a cult.
	It's not a religion, by the way.
	White nationalists, not a religion.
	Christian nationalists, not a religion.
	No, it's a cult.
	And it's a political cult.
	And that's what cost us.
	I don't think Costas can bring himself to do the full thing, but it really started with a beautiful switcheroo, which included the University of Alabama, which is a major woke university.
	I mean, like major, major woke.
	So there was a... As bad as Arkansas?
	Maybe even worse.
	Maybe even worse.
	Um, watch the documentary, uh, what is it, Bama?
	With all the girls going there and social media.
	It's an interesting documentary.
	Anyway.
	So, in Alabama, there was a court case that went up to the Alabama Supreme Court.
	Two couples.
	You're banging your mic.
	It was two couples.
	That's not banging the mic.
	Well, whatever it is, it sounds like.
	It's something else, and I'm trying to stop it from happening.
	I'm not sure what to lubricate.
	I do have the IVF.
	No, I have it all.
	I'm not going to lubricate everything.
	Do you want me to present it, or do you want to interject?
	No, I do.
	Unless you have a clip on the IVF.
	I have all of it.
	Of course I have it.
	Okay, okay.
	I just have a PBS clip.
	I have a million, I have too many clips, I can't even play them all.
	But I want to explain because it's fun to see the switcheroo.
	And we don't need to have a clip necessarily about what actually happened other than two couples in Alabama, they had had children with IVF.
	IVF is where you actually create the child in a petri dish and then you freeze it until you implant it in the womb.
	It stands for in vitro fertilization.
	Thank you.
	And you get twins often, by the way, which is always a fun little side effect.
	And so they paid a company to keep the dead successfully implanted and had kids, both of these couples.
	And then the company that's supposed to take care of their embryo, the frozen embryos, they screwed it up and they dropped them on the floor, swept them up.
	I don't know what happened.
	Something horrible went wrong.
	And so they sued them for wrongful death.
	Which, who knows how much of this is all a setup, but they sued them for wrongful death, and the Supreme Court Justice in Alabama came out with the opinion and says, yep, they're children, so it's wrongful death, therefore you can be penalized for that.
	And then the University of Alabama turns around and goes, Oh, well, we can't do any IVF now because it's scary.
	So scary because we might get sued if we drop a child on the ground, which is the setup and the switcheroo happens right away in the mainstream.
	Women relying on IVF and their advocates had feared the fall of Roe would open the door to states further restricting reproductive rights.
	Still, the Alabama decision sent shockwaves.
	This case, or a case like it, could go all the way up to the Supreme Court at some point.
	And that's what really puts the future of fertility care at risk.
	Kate Weldon LeBlanc heads up Resolve New England, an infertility support group.
	Her own daughter Sophie was born through IVF.
	She calls it an intensely personal and emotional journey between an individual and her doctor, not politicians and judges.
	People do not understand the medicine of reproductive health care.
	So it's already gone away from IVF immediately.
	No one's talking about the actual case.
	Now it's Roe v. Wade, it's they hate children, they hate the Republicans, they're crazy Christians.
	And they are making changes that are going to impact people that are desperately trying to welcome much-wanted children into their lives.
	Okay, so here's how it gets... Guys, wait!
	What?
	I love the use of the term much wanted.
	This whole thing is crazy.
	I'm going to give you a good example with The View, because that's where America's women go to get their news.
	But you know what?
	Since when do Republicans want to stop rich people from having children?
	It doesn't make sense.
	On the one hand, they want you to not have an abortion.
	Then they also don't want you to have more children.
	Make up your mind.
	Does that make sense?
	She's literally lying and turning everything around.
	Whatever that means.
	I actually think they do want you to have more children, and they're just not saying the quiet part out loud.
	Oh, no.
	So Sonny Haas, she needs to bring some racism into it.
	Remember, it's white Christian nationalists that we're going after.
	We'll get to them.
	Which is multicultural Americans are going to become the majority population by 2050.
	By 2050, the Hispanic Americans are expected to have the most population growth, an increase of about 6%, while the white population is expected to decrease by about 11%.
	At this time, the birth rate for white Americans in this country has been falling since the Great Recession, and it's dropped almost 23% between 2007 and 2022.
	So what The View has now done is they've taken it from rich whiteys to, you know, only the rich whiteys want to have babies.
	They don't want to have, oh, don't give black and brown people access to this crazy technology that is brand new apparently.
	But wouldn't more white women be getting the IVF?
	That's why they want IVF, but they can't say yes.
	They're coming out sort of against it.
	And not being able to explain why.
	They want to have more American white children born because the birth rate has gone down.
	Okay, so that's the view's take on it, but what really kicked off was this woman from Politico, Heidi Prisbilla.
	And she went on MSNBC with Michael Steele.
	Isn't that the guy who used to be the president of the Republican Party?
	He used to be the head of the Republican National Committee, turned Democrat.
	This is the kind of guy he is.
	And she did exactly what her WAPO, because isn't Politico owned by WAPO?
	Uh, Slate is owned by Waldo.
	Well, same overlords as far as I'm concerned.
	She kicked it all off and got it going, and I think she went a bit too far, but it was beautiful to see.
	Heidi, you've got the new speaker.
	Mike Johnson, who's not afraid to wear his Christianity on his sleeve, his collar, his lapel, his head, wherever he can wear it.
	How do members react to that?
	How are they responding to this real strong infusion of Christian nationalism into the body?
	Hold on a second.
	This phony baloney, this guy who's hateful.
	Once head of the Republican National Committee, once he was booted off, he became a Democrat, which he always was.
	He was never any good at it.
	This is a lie.
	I've watched enough of Mike Johnson.
	He rarely talks about being religious.
	He doesn't wear it on his sleeve.
	Oh, well, no, but this is a setup.
	This has been planned.
	We've got a documentary.
	We've got books.
	I understand the thesis.
	I'm just pushing back on the bull crap.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	You hear from these boneheads.
	By the way, Troll Room, absolutely spot on.
	Meanwhile, white girls are having sex with black men.
	I mean, what are we doing?
	We all know what's really going on.
	That's fine.
	This is America.
	But no, it's really about making Trump and his support.
	It's all about Trump.
	And it's a desperate, desperate attempt.
	Real strong infusion of Christian nationalism into the body politic of the House.
	I've talked with a lot of experts on this and I've seen it myself with my reporting, Michael, which is that the base of the Republican Party has shifted, right?
	Remember when Trump ran in 2016?
	A lot of the mainline evangelicals wanted nothing to do with the divorced real estate mogul who cheated on his wife with a porn star and all of that, right?
	No, I don't remember that right!
	Was that really ever a thing?
	Did mainline Christians run away from Trump because he cheated on his wife with a porn star?
	Or did you make that up in your head, lady?
	Right?
	That's the part I love the most.
	When Trump ran in 2016, a lot of the mainline evangelicals wanted nothing to do with the divorced real estate mogul who cheated on his wife with a porn star and all of that, right?
	So what happened is he was surrounded by this more extremist element.
	You're going to hear words like Christian nationalism, like the new apostolic reformation.
	This has got my interest.
	The New Apostolic Reformation.
	This is something that started in 1996 by a professor, Dr. Peter Wagner.
	And, you know, it's not really mainstream anymore.
	It did start kind of the charismatics movement, which, you know, this is what they're failing on.
	They don't have any video of the charismatics in their churches.
	Because, you know, they're very moving around, and speaking in tongues, and very vocal, and they're completely, you know, the Holy Spirit is working through them, so this is the cult angle that she's going for.
	You know, that, by the way, what you just pointed out, is a weakness.
	Yes.
	Because I don't think they really know what they're talking about, probably on any level.
	No.
	And so, if they knew what they were talking about, that's what they would go get.
	And you're right!
	The B-roll of a Pentecostal!
	Thursday night or whatever weird night they do these jumping around things and just talking in tongues and just go for it.
	I mean, we have one guy like that in our church and we love him.
	You know, he'll just like, he's like Ass Teresh, like, oh Jesus!
	And he's great.
	But we only have one.
	You have to imagine a church full of them.
	That's what you need.
	Christian nationalism, like the new apostolic reformation.
	These are groups that you should get very, very schooled on because they have a lot of power in Trump's circle.
	And the one thing that unites- They have a lot of power in Trump's circle.
	Because there's many different groups orbiting Trump.
	But the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists, not Christians by the way, because Christian nationalist is very different, is that- Okay, so Christians is very different from Christian Nationalists.
	This is part of the meme.
	They're trying to not piss off Christians by saying Christian Nationalists is very different.
	Unites them as Christian Nationalists, not Christians by the way, because Christian Nationalists is very different, is that they believe that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don't come from any earthly authority.
	They don't come from Congress.
	They don't come from the Supreme Court.
	They come from God.
	Okay.
	News flash, Heidi.
	The rights that we have in the Bill of Rights, as written, are established, were not given to us by Congress or by the Constitution.
	The Bill of Rights is a specific denial of things for the government.
	And if you look at the Declaration of Independence, yes, these were our God-given rights.
	And now, but this is the level of knowledge of civics amongst this reporting class.
	Either that or they're specifically trying to undermine the Constitution.
	Both.
	The problem with that is that they're determining man.
	Men, there it is, men, are determining what God is telling them.
	And in the past, that so-called natural law is, you know, it's a pillar of Catholicism, for instance.
	It's been used... Oh, hold on a second.
	We talked to our lapsed Catholic.
	Is that a pillar of Catholicism?
	I don't know.
	For good in social justice campaigns.
	Martin Luther King evoked it.
	Yes, he said all men are created equal.
	That's what Martin Luther King said.
	And I think Martin Luther King said that came from God.
	But, you know, that was Martin Luther King.
	He was better.
	Talking about civil rights.
	But now you have an extremist element of conservative Christians.
	I love extremist.
	Not extremist.
	She loves that word.
	And she says extremist instead of extremist, which everybody in the world says extremist.
	But she says extremist.
	Why is she doing that?
	What is the point?
	It's an attention-getter.
	It's an attention-getting pronunciation.
	Well, it worked.
	Extremist element of conservative Christians who say that this applies specifically to issues including abortion, gay marriage, and it's going much further than that.
	As you see, for instance, with the ruling in Alabama this week.
	That judge is connected to that Dominionist A lot of other issues including surrogacy, IVF, you know, sex education in schools.
	There's a lot in addition.
	Okay, so what she's trying to do here, and I think she overshot the mark, is she's trying to get nowhere.
	Tie dominionism and the new apostolic, what is it, new apostolic, is it revolution?
	I forgot what she said.
	It's not working.
	She can't jumble all these things together like that and hope to get any attention or get anybody to go along with it because she's nuts.
	She doesn't know what she's talking about.
	Well, Steele tries to bring her back on track because she needs to, of course, connect this to Mike Johnson, the Speaker of your House.
	You have to understand, the whole idea is to tell America People who want to run this country are crazy!
	You know, it's interesting, Heidi, as these two men are trying to carve the GOP into their image, you've got the titular head of the party, Donald Trump, who is not a paragon of Christian virtue.
	How do they reconcile that?
	Is it just about, oh, he got us the Supreme Court?
	Is it just about he advocates for the things that we advocate?
	It doesn't matter whether or not he himself believes them or has any type of moral connection or even a theocratic one, given what you were saying.
	It really depends on the individual, but let's talk, for instance, about his spiritual advisor, Paula White, who was a White House employee.
	She was his spiritual advisor.
	She is connected to this Dominionist movement and a lot of those individuals believe that trump actually was put here by god he even tweeted this video you know that god gave us trump that he is a serious like person who is imperfect vessel who is nevertheless here put on earth to do god's work to put so now she's taking that commercial and she's tying it all in i mean i i'm I love the effort.
	Christianity back at the center of civic life.
	And you see that manifesting not just in the courts, and we're seeing that like with the IVF ruling, with the Miffa-Preston ruling now that is making its way to the Supreme Court, but with Project 2025, which is an agenda that's being, a very detailed agenda that's going to be offered up to President Trump if he wins a second term, right?
	Oops!
	She already knows he's going to win.
	Oops.
	I mean, if he wins, I mean, if he wins.
	President Trump to work through HH, the Department of Human Health and Human Services, as well as potentially the FDA, that would really kind of bypass even the courts in Congress to do things like revoke authorization of the abortion pill.
	And then, and this is the one that doesn't get enough Enough attention is the influencer campaign that's taking place.
	Oh, wait, this is the... Now we've got to bring in Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA, because these people are crazy.
	They are paying influencers!
	Right now, in the GOP, to convince young women to ditch hormonal birth control, that they are sicker, and they are more stressed out being working women, and that they should embrace being healthier and more natural, and... What a crazy idea!
	Having large families and, you know, daycare is not good for your kids either, and all of these things actually happen at a Turning Point USA conference for young women leaders.
	Okay, so she really overshot the mark.
	She went way too far.
	Because she was just supposed to tee up some stuff and let all the serious media like NPR, oh yeah, NPR, So NPR brings on this guy, I think, Matthew Taylor.
	He's a scholar.
	He's a scholar with a book!
	And he's going to really explain to us what's going on with these crazy Christian nationalists, dominionists.
	Dominion theology, the concept was coined by a group of radical Calvinist theologians.
	Can you stop for a second?
	Yeah.
	Just a little backgrounder.
	The dominionist slur was actually developed and maxed out during the George W. Bush administration, for anyone who wants to go back a little bit. - They tried it there?
	Yeah, this is when they first came out, and the Dominionists, that's when it really got into the forefront, and there was discussion after discussion about what the Dominionists want.
	They want the end of the world!
	And the end of the world's going to take place in Israel, even though the Syrians think it's going to take place someplace else.
	Everyone in the Middle East has their own little area where Armageddon's going to take place.
	But the Dominionists believe it's in Jerusalem or something like that.
	I may have a few details wrong.
	But this was going to be the end of the world and that's what everyone was pushing for because George W. Bush and the Dominionists want to end the world as we know it.
	They want the whole thing to blow up.
	Dominion theology?
	Oh, sorry.
	That was the reason for the... So it became a big deal.
	And so now they're reintroducing the term and the group, and there are a lot of people that are very serious about being dominionists.
	I think I've heard from a couple of them myself.
	But it's absolutely one of the most fringe of fringe Christian movements.
	Very fringe.
	And so to bring it up as a mainstream anything is ludicrous.
	Dominion theology, the concept was coined by a group of radical Calvinist theologians called the Christian Reconstructionists in the 1960s and 1970s.
	These ideas were very influential in the rise of the religious right in the 1980s.
	It was this aggressive style of Christian theology that said Christians Need to fulfill what they would talk about as the Dominion Mandate.
	Take dominion over societies and rule in the name of Christ.
	The main vehicle for this idea in our circles is something called the Seven Mountain Mandate that became a charismatic rebranding of these Calvinist Dominion Theology ideas that Wagner and his cohort mixed together into the Seven Mountain Mandate.
	And in fact, Justice Parker referred to the Seven Mountain Mandate in an interview he did with an NAR prophet named Johnny Enloe, and it was published the same day as the court's decision that embryos count as people.
	I love this stretch, because I thought it was going to be in the opinion.
	I got the PDF of the Alabama judge's opinion.
	I'm like, oh, there was nothing in there about that.
	So he did an interview with an NAR dude, and it came out the same day.
	And she doesn't cite anything, just says offhandedly, oh yeah, the seven mountain mandate.
	Also something I'd never heard of before.
	So the Seven Mountain Mandate means that you have to go into the institutions of government, and what else?
	The Seven Mountains are family, religion, education, government, arts and entertainment, media, and business or commerce.
	Bullshit!
	You forgot podcasting!
	What's wrong with you?
	The idea is, if you divide up society into these seven spheres... You can rule the world!
	Sometimes language you'll hear used as well.
	The idea is that those mountains, those spheres of society, are either ruled over by demonic forces or by the kingdom of God.
	Well, that's the entertainment.
	Well, that's exactly... That's Taylor Swift.
	Since where do we not agree?
	We gotta agree with that!
	And so, the goal for Christians is to rise to the top of each of the seven mountains in every society, and to displace the demonic powers through spiritual warfare, through... Meanwhile, the Jews are going, hey, hey, hey, media!
	That's our mountain!
	Get off our mountain, Christian crazies!
	...seven mountains in every society, and to displace the demonic powers through spiritual warfare, through prophecy, And take over, conquer the mountains, and then let Christian influence flow down from the top.
	So if you think about conventional religious right mobilization, it has tended to filter or channel conservative Christian indignation into democratic means.
	This is a vanguard move.
	This is not a grassroots change society.
	This is take over positions of power in society and govern from the top down.
	Come on, don't give me that.
	I have a couple more to go.
	I'm skipping as much as I can because I can already hear you're annoyed.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, for one thing, I want to back up at least once in a while and say, this is so fringe.
	It's ridiculous.
	And the fact that they bring it in as something is actually happening at any level.
	If you go to Seven Mountain Mandate and Wikipedia, they have this kind of a background.
	I've never really became caught on until, I guess, 2013.
	And then it was about the Seven Mountains, not about the other stuff, the Dominionists.
	And then they have here prominent followers.
	Okay, who do we have?
	Mike Johnson.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Raphael Cruz, pastor and father of Senator Ted Cruz.
	You know, the guy who tried to kill Kennedy.
	Paula White, spiritual advisor to Trump.
	Lauren Boebert.
	Really?
	Alright, but now we have to take this and we've got to connect it to... I just want to stop again.
	This is a setup.
	I'm going to look into the... This has recently been added.
	Oh yeah, I totally agree.
	The Seven Mountain Mandate Wikipedia page has been updated recently.
	Look at the edits.
	Yeah, looking now.
	Okay, so then he goes into separation of church and state, which I'm gonna skip that one, but what we need to do is we need to connect these crazy people, these crazy, dominionist, seven-mountain, charismatic, nutjobs, also known as Christian nationalists, But how much of this rhetoric is metaphorical?
	I mean, are we talking about real demons when they talk about picking up weapons?
	Are they talking about real weapons?
	They would say it's not metaphorical.
	They believe the demons are real.
	But they would say they are only talking about spiritual warfare.
	Now the challenge is if you go and listen to their rhetoric, it is incredibly violent.
	Violent!
	And they are pointing at actual people, pointing at the Democratic Party, pointing at disloyal Republicans as they view them, and saying those people are not actually responsible for their actions because they are being orchestrated by demons.
	And we need to fight the demons.
	And this literal demonization of their enemies is one of the major contributing factors to the chaos on January 6.
	Because they are pointing at them and saying that building is infested with demons.
	We need to fight the demons.
	I did not hear those chants on January 6th.
	I haven't seen that footage.
	And it's only a matter of time if you keep doing that before someone says, yeah, we need to fight against those people.
	So the NAR leaders are careful.
	They know where the line is between truly irresponsible speech that could get you in legal trouble.
	None of them have been prosecuted or even faced any legal consequences for their role in January 6th.
	They know that what is protected by free speech and they walk right up to that line.
	But they're always careful not to cross it.
	I'm not sure what he means with that bit at all, But his job here with his book, and there's a couple books out, is to connect the Trump backing from Christian nationalists to January 6th.
	And all of this is of course a setup to a wonderful documentary called God and Country, which is produced by none other than Rob Reiner, because he is the final hope For the Democrats, the final hope to get rid of Trump by telling everybody the truth.
	We have a new project that I also want to make sure people know about.
	Your documentary, God and Country, which looks at this issue of Christian nationalism.
	We have a little bit of it.
	Let's take a look.
	Christian nationalism uses Christianity as a means to an end.
	That end being some form of authoritarianism.
	Being a Christian is about the values of inclusion.
	Christian nationalism is certainly not based on the values of the gospel.
	God wants America to be saved.
	They're told over and over and over again that you're in danger.
	You need to fight if you don't want to lose your country.
	We are in a civil war.
	Now, what's being said here is true, absolutely.
	Christians are always talking about, we don't want to lose our country and the demons and all that, but they're overlaying January 6 footage as only Rob Reiner could do.
	We'll show you in the documentary, and by the way, there are very conservative Christian evangelicals, pastors, very respected people in the Christian community, that are frightened of this Christian nationalist movement because it's not, they not only frightened about it hurting democracy, but Christianity itself.
	And we show in the film that this movement was the foundation for January 6th.
	They were the moving elements that made January 6th and the insurrection happened.
	And now we have a Speaker of the House who is an avowed Christian nationalist.
	He even says that the teachings of the Bible and what he believes, whatever he believes God's will is, overtakes the Constitution.
	And that all decisions have to be made based on his thinking.
	We have this now inculcated in our government, and Donald Trump is more than happy to be their mouthpiece, and we see this connection, and it's brought out in the film, and it's very scary because there's a possibility, and we talk about it in the film, that we could slip into an autocracy very easily.
	At any minute we can slip.
	On many other shows that the fight right now is between whether or not we preserve our democracy or we slip into a theocratic autocracy.
	That's what this movement wants.
	They believe that this is a white Christian nation.
	That's what it should be.
	And that's what we bring out in the film.
	And they're not only poisoning the democracy, they're also poisoning Christianity.
	Oh, shooty.
	Oh, crap.
	Yes.
	Here is the real irony and the big disappointment here.
	Rob Reiner used to be a really good director for fictional product.
	He's not a documentarian.
	The Democrats lost their guy, Michael Moore, when he did his documentary on the scam of climate change.
	And they just, he was just eliminated from the picture.
	Where's Michael Moore this go around when he usually does the kind of documentaries that now they have to pass it off to Rob Reiner?
	Yeah.
	Who's not a documentarian and doesn't know what he's doing?
	Well, he produced it.
	A guy named Dan Patland is the director.
	I'm not familiar with him.
	And I have a clip of them both in a minute, but I just wanted to give a little palate refresher here with Joy Reid.
	Johnson is so far out there that even other Republicans are pushing back on the God talk.
	But this is why we need to be very concerned.
	Mike Johnson has the conviction, the motivation, and now the opportunity to steal the next election for Donald Trump.
	He is a far right-wing evangelical Christian who suggested his election as House Speaker was ordained literally by God, even billing himself as a modern-day Moses.
	I don't remember that.
	I don't remember that either, but is that different than every black football player in the world thanking God and Jesus after the game when they win?
	Is there any difference there?
	How about the Grammys?
	Thank you, but God gave me the lyrics.
	Well, yeah.
	You can only do that so far.
	Taylor Swift's gonna get mad.
	Well, here comes her kicker.
	So if God tells him to steal a few elections to make Trump president, what you gonna do?
	And then what happens if God tells him to make Trump president for life?
	Oh yeah, okay.
	Okay, sure.
	This is the end.
	She's going to burn in hell.
	Let's face it.
	Okay, so I only have three more clips and then I'll stop.
	I could play 20 more because I find it fascinating.
	We could do a whole show.
	We could do a special.
	Why don't you do a special?
	I'm not going to do a special.
	Do you remember...
	Okay, maybe I'll do a special.
	What should I call it?
	Oh, by the way, we were looking for like a Genocide Joe name for Hillary.
	We got one.
	Holocaust Hillary.
	It writes itself.
	Oh, that's not bad.
	I can't believe that we didn't come up with it.
	We did now.
	Do you remember Laura Flanders?
	Of course, she still has a show, did you know that?
	Yeah, I didn't.
	I mean, I didn't know she had a TV podcast, a show, a podcast show.
	No, she has a show that goes over the air.
	Well, this was a podcast.
	Okay, well, I think her podcast is the same show.
	Well, Laura Flanders had Rob Reiner.
	Oh my God, those two together, it's like, I'm surprised it didn't.
	It really is surprising because there were some revelations in here.
	So Reiner, Produce the movie, the movie I say with the big name, the documentary.
	Dan Patland is the director.
	Well in this top class of ambassadors... So what he's doing here, he's going to, he has a chart and he says... Hold on a second.
	How come he's going around, what producer do you know?
	And we have a few that work on our show.
	Go around to promote, it's usually the director or the main character, it's usually, it's not the producer unless it's producer-director, that goes around promoting the movie unless they did it.
	Well, because they're desperate.
	There's nothing left to do but now just go straight to religion, which is one of the most un-American things I could think of, to be honest.
	To go after religion and then, you know, couch it in all, it's just some fringe group and they're all behind Trump.
	I mean, and the Dan guy, he's dumb, because he says things that are stupid.
	So he has this chart that she puts up on the screen, and he shows that one-third of America is really Christian.
	They're just Christian.
	They believe in God and Jesus Christ.
	And then there's another third in the middle, and they might be, maybe we can sway them.
	But he has to admit that two-thirds of America just kind of believes in Jesus Christ and God.
	And he says, but, you know, this movie...
	This movie that he made is to convince that one-third in the middle to flip, I guess, away from Jesus?
	Well, in this top class of... Those are probably most of the people we're talking about when we say Christian Nationalists.
	This may be as much as 20% of the population.
	Okay, that's a huge, huge number.
	20% who have deeply held beliefs that the United States is... Hold on, stop it again!
	I'm listening to this and I can't tell if it's Rob Reiner speaking in a lower register or is it Laura speaking?
	I can't tell.
	Well, it's Patland.
	It's the Dan guy.
	Oh, it's the other guy.
	He sounds like a combination of the two.
	...percent who have deeply held beliefs that the United States is and should be officially a Christian nation and are looking to write that into law.
	That's the population that we have to be worried about.
	What makes it so difficult to address is that when you consider the next tier, people who you'd call accommodators of Christian nationalism, or even resistors, now you're talking about really almost two-thirds to three-quarters of the country have at least some bit of Christian nationalist belief.
	And some of it is fine, of course.
	This is basically a Christian nation.
	There's a background of Christianity throughout the history of this republic.
	The sort of benign ways that it starts, which is just recognizing that there's a lot of Christian people here, quickly becomes a slippery slope with this casual language of, well, but the United States is basically a Christian nation.
	Well, what does that mean?
	What does that mean?
	And I think what we have to do is we have to draw that bright line again between the separation of church and state, which is a foundational American principle, which I cannot believe in the year 2024 is becoming fuzzy to people.
	So what they're trying to say is that the separation of church and state, which they all point to the First Amendment, where the First Amendment says the government shall make no religion official religion, you know, cannot block a religion, of course, didn't matter because the churches closed anyway when they were told, oh, scary COVID.
	But what they're trying to do is turn it around a little bit and say, hey, these Christians, they can't be making laws based on what they believe.
	And there is something called the Lemon Test, I believe, which could be used to stop lawmakers, but in general, if you're a Marxist or a socialist, you may—and we have lots of socialist-based laws and Marxist-based laws, but they're very afraid that the crazy Christian nationalists are going to take hold, and they're going to make all the laws based upon what God told them!
	Well, one of the things I learned that I didn't know before, Robert, from the film was just how recent it is that the word God appears on our coins in the Pledge of Allegiance.
	Well, I was in school, actually, in 1954 when they added under God in the Pledge of Allegiance.
	Yes, and you know why they did that?
	Because it's true.
	In 1954, President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words under God because of commies like you!
	They were afraid of communists taking over our country and using our Pledge of Allegiance as a communist mantra, so they added God!
	It used to be one nation, indivisible.
	Then it became one nation under God, indivisible.
	And I remember when that happened, because we gave that pledge every morning in school.
	So it, you know, it really started happening around then, and we've seen it grow over time.
	But the question you ask, which is how do you undo it?
	And the way in which you undo it is not, you know, you're never going to get that hardcore group of people that just believe it and you can't convince them.
	It's those others, those other layers that Dan talked about.
	If you can get to those people to make them understand that this is destroying their faith in a way – It's undermining their faith.
	That's the way in which I think you can undo it.
	Because, you know, the crazy Christian nationalists are really hurting Jesus.
	There's all kinds of, you know, pie-in-the-sky kind of things like getting rid of the Electoral College and things like that, which would actually make it more democratic and majority ruled.
	There we are!
	Pie in the sky, but let's get rid of it.
	Pie in the sky, but we really want to get rid of it.
	Rule in the country.
	There are a lot of safeguards for the minority to make sure that they're not, you know, run roughshod over, you know, by the majority.
	That's called the electoral college.
	Yeah, he wants to get rid of it.
	It's pie in the sky.
	It's like a dream is what he means by that.
	It's a dream to get rid of that.
	We'll work on that.
	But when that minority gets too much power, then they're running roughshod over the vast majority.
	And that's what you have to wrestle with.
	And that's our, it's in our civics classes.
	We have to understand how it works.
	All right.
	So final clip.
	Rob Reiner, I thought he was Jewish.
	He was born Jewish, into a Jewish family, but we... He's an atheist.
	Oh no, we have a lot to learn about Rob Reiner's religious beliefs.
	Become a Buddhist?
	Rob, you've gone on a journey yourself.
	You've talked about in the context of this film.
	Even though I am Jewish, I was not raised that way.
	But in a time in my life when I was going through the worst period of soul searching, I read everything.
	I read Buddhism and, you know, books about Christianity and Hinduism.
	I read everything.
	And what I came around thinking is if you look at the core teachings of Jesus, that makes the most sense and made the most sense to me.
	The idea of, you know, doing to others.
	And there's a reason why it's called the Golden Rule.
	Because if you can live by that, Everything else falls into place.
	You don't need the Ten Commandments.
	You don't need a lot if you just live by that rule.
	And then I look at this film, and I look at what's happening in this country, and it seems like we've come so far from those teachings.
	Okay, so just to review, he read some books about Christianity.
	He didn't read the Bible.
	He read some books about them.
	And he says, you know, the teachings of Jesus do unto others Which I think he's referring to the Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, which are a little bit more than that.
	But if you are a masochist like he is, do unto others!
	I think he loves that!
	Yeah, let me be mean and hateful and spiteful and... He's extremely hateful, this guy.
	And he wants that to be done to him!
	Then that's his golden rule.
	That's his entire takeaway from Hinduism, Buddhism, some books about Christianity, and being born a Jew is, please be as mean to me as I am to you.
	This guy is sinful.
	That's what he is.
	So, anyway, you can look for- Well, that's a long way.
	That's a Shaggy Dog story, if you're gonna end with that.
	Well, I mean, I have so- it's like PBS, everyone was rolling it out.
	It was insane.
	And this- what I think is gonna happen, these people are so stupid, they're actually gonna create revival in America.
	It's overdue, it's a cycle.
	Yeah.
	Oh, it is!
	It's overdue.
	I remember studying this when I was a... Wasn't it late 60s?
	Late 60s?
	Early 70s?
	We had a war going on, but everybody... No, nothing like in the 1800s.
	No, tell me about the 1800s.
	Tell me, I don't know.
	There was some tremendous, like a decade of revivalism that was just out of control, and we have seen nothing like that in our lifetimes.
	Do you think it's a cycle and we're overdue?
	Are you sure it's not an op?
	I think it's a cycle and we're overdue.
	The Jesus op is coming!
	Well, I don't know.
	If the CIA gets its act together, maybe.
	But I'm not seeing it.
	I think they are so desperate.
	This is the last thing they can do.
	Let's connect it to Trump.
	Let's connect it to January 6th.
	Let's bring in Rob Reiner.
	I mean, that says desperation right there.
	And I think you're right.
	We're overdue.
	It's a backfire.
	We're going to have a revival and I look forward to it.
	I look at this slightly different than you do.
	I think this is just laying the groundwork for excuses how Trump lost the election to Biden.
	When they go through the same process of rigging the election like they did last time, it was done with mail-in ballots, which is going to be much more difficult to pull off this time.
	And when it happens, you say, well, you know, Trump says he was stolen.
	But in fact, and then they'll go through the same thing you just did, and these are the reasons he lost.
	Wait a minute.
	How does that work with our thesis that the Democrats want Trump to win?
	I think in fact, well, it goes this, the two things can be true at the same time.
	I think the smart Democrats do want Trump to win.
	And because they know that things are going to be so screwed up they may be out of office for a long time if Biden stays in for another four years.
	And that's the smart money.
	But Biden's people that got him in the first time, which seems to be like a locomotive out of control, which is basically the Obama administration, you know, they don't think that way.
	Well, I mean, I don't see how it just can't happen now.
	It's like, I mean, unless they cheat better than the Republicans.
	The Republicans will be ready, though.
	No, the Republicans should be able to cheat and hold their own.
	They should be doing it.
	I've never thought the Republicans were as good at it as the Democrats.
	For example, Washington State.
	All mail-in ballots, all Democrats.
	And really bad Democrats, lousy ones like Inslee.
	California.
	Absentee ballots are the way to go.
	Most people do that, and then there's also other notorious rigging mechanisms and the Democrats have taken over California.
	It's democracy, man.
	It's democracy.
	It's democracy.
	I would love to switch gears to this fake moon landing, and I see you have a 3x3, so I'd be excited to do that if you're game.
	Yeah, I wanna do this.
	Yeah, let's do the moon landing.
	I got a 3x3 here and I wanna start it.
	Well, you play the jingle and then we'll start it.
	And now it's time for 3x3!
	Hello everybody!
	Experiment 5JCD!
	Yes, we got a 3x3!
	Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC!
	The never-ending 3x3!
	That's right, it took us over 50 years to get back to the moon everybody and boy was it a doozy.
	Are you waiting for the video?
	Stand by, John's got a 3x3 to see how the big three news networks news shows covered it.
	We'll start with the top network for people who watch news on TV, ABC.
	It's a mission with major implications.
	The first American spacecraft to land on the moon in more than 50 years.
	Separation confirmed.
	The lunar lander Odysseus, nicknamed Ody, built by Houston-based Intuitive Machines, blasting off a week ago on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, traveling a quarter of a million miles to the moon.
	Ody carrying instruments that will gather information about the lunar surface ahead of NASA's Artemis mission to the moon in 2026 with humans on board.
	Americans first landed on the moon on Apollo 11 in 1969.
	We will be here from now on for what will be truly a historic time.
	That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
	The last time, back in 1972, on Apollo 17.
	Now, Odie's mission sets into motion a new beginning in exploring the Moon and the Universe.
	That South Pole, the dark side of the Moon, has water and ice, which is critical if we want to use the Moon as a home base to one day explore Mars and beyond.
	The moon has one-sixth the gravity of Earth and no atmosphere, so it's a much easier place to launch deeper into the solar system.
	It really is the launching pad into human exploration out into deep space.
	And David, we have just received confirmation.
	Odie has made it to the lunar surface at that South Pole, that critical South Pole, where there is water and ice.
	So, Odie has officially landed on the moon.
	Wait a minute.
	I thought it was going to find out if there was water and ice.
	Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
	And how do they know there's water and ice if it's winter to see if there's water and ice?
	Because they had a camera for the landing.
	Oh, I'm sorry, they didn't.
	It's so crazy.
	Of course not.
	It's so crazy when you see the old footage, almost as old as I am, of, you know, riding the dune buggy, playing golf, bouncing around.
	I like the golf.
	We can't seem to have an actual video of the landing of this thing, which looks like something that Adam and John could have put together in our garage with some tinfoil and some broom handles.
	Well, it was put together in Texas.
	My understanding is that it actually did come down and kind of landed and then fell over.
	It fell over!
	So now it's on its side and it doesn't have any mechanisms to upright itself.
	It's not like, you know, one of those, like a, it's not like a, like a cheap toy.
	You used to be able to buy at Toys R Us that whatever the kid did, it would flip itself back to normal.
	They can't even come up with that.
	That technology's old.
	It's with toys to have it.
	The thing flips over, it's back standing up.
	Basically sand in the bottom of the big clown you could hit.
	And it would rid right itself.
	Nice.
	How about training wheels?
	Let's go with Tom Costello and NBC.
	Leave it to a 14-foot robot named Odysseus to stick the first U.S.
	moon landing since Apollo.
	Stick the landing?
	Are you kidding me?
	Stick the landing... I mean, that's a term with a plane... I can't believe what these people are doing.
	What we can confirm, without a doubt, is our equipment is on the surface of the moon.
	Houston-based Intuitive Machines, now the first private company to successfully... That's not sticking the landing at all.
	Hold on a second.
	No, it's not sticking the landing at all.
	We can confirm it's on the moon.
	If it crash-landed and blew into a million pieces, you could say the same thing.
	Apollo.
	What we can confirm, without a doubt, is our equipment... Right there, without a doubt, that to me is the lie.
	Without a doubt, he's got doubt.
	Without a doubt, is our equipment is on the surface of the moon.
	Houston-based Intuitive Machines, now the first private company to successfully land on the moon.
	Houston, Odysseus has found his new home.
	But now, troubleshooting a communications issue.
	And liftoff!
	Go SpaceX, go IM-1, and go Odysseus Lunar Lander.
	Yay!
	Odysseus launched on a SpaceX rocket just seven days ago, sending back spectacular photos of Earth as it rocketed towards the lunar south pole.
	On board six... Hold on.
	Spectacular pictures of Earth.
	Did you see the one picture I've seen from this thing?
	It wasn't even Earth.
	It was like a round metal ball with somehow some snow on it.
	I mean, did you see this picture?
	No.
	It's very, it's very, very weird.
	Now they're also saying ice water.
	of Earth as it rocketed towards the lunar South Pole.
	On board six NASA experiments, the ice water on the pole makes it NASA's target zone when astronauts return in just a few years.
	Now, they're also saying ice water.
	They're saying as if it's that I'm confused.
	The top two networks so far have said that there is water on the moon, even though this fallen, this tipped over thing is supposed to find out if there's water on the moon.
	This is good.
	This is the south pole of the moon.
	That's correct.
	In a NASA simulator, we saw the hostile conditions they'll have to navigate.
	The sun hanging very low on the horizon.
	Those shadows are so long.
	To cut costs, NASA has hired 14 private companies to run advanced experiments on the moon, though many could fail.
	It's really, really difficult to land on the moon.
	I mean, there's no air to slow you down, so you can't use parachutes.
	The Odysseus lander will only have 12 to 13 days before its solar power runs out.
	But tonight, just getting there is mission accomplished.
	What I love about this is that everyone's coming to my side of the argument.
	We just never landed there.
	It's so obvious now.
	I mean, people who are all in on, they love Musk, they love space travel, they're looking at this and going, Yeah, it can't be that, I mean, this is, it's really, really hard.
	There's, you know, it's tough to land on the moon.
	Well, how did we do it 50 years ago?
	Yeah, that wasn't real.
	That was, you know, that was because of the Russians.
	It's amazing.
	It's, uh, I still think that the image of comparing this, this little piece of crap and it fell over compared to the driving around in a dune buggy playing golf, playing golf is like a kind of a contrast.
	But you never know, it's possible.
	That's when Wernher von Braun was alive.
	Yeah.
	So let's go to the CIA's best outlet and see what they have to say.
	Tonight, the Odyssey of Odysseus has ended on the moon.
	The first American-made spacecraft kicking up lunar dust in more than a half century.
	Our equipment is on the surface of the moon.
	Jubilant.
	Mission control of intuitive machines in Houston.
	Also, this This mission control was dorky.
	They're like a bunch of nerds in a round room.
	I mean, it didn't have a cool look.
	You didn't have a mission controller guy, you know, standing there like chewing on a cigar.
	We're sticking the landing boys!
	No, none of that.
	Then they're like, oh yeah, we did it.
	Yay.
	The first commercial moon landing ever.
	The final descent from 18 miles above the lunar surface, a continuous engine burn for 10 minutes.
	By touchdown, Odysseus had slowed to 2 miles per hour.
	This is the assembly room.
	Intuitive co-founder Steve Altema showed us the historic moon lander up close last year in Houston.
	By the way, that's incorrect, the 2 miles per hour, but I have a clip to prove that after the 3x3.
	His company envisions a 100 billion dollar lunar market.
	We're delivering scientific payloads, engineering demonstration payloads, but not the humans themselves.
	And you believe the moon is the next economic frontier?
	The moon is certainly that next step for space exploration.
	Odysseus landed near the lunar South Pole, carrying less than 300 pounds of cargo, including six instruments for NASA, an intuitive customer.
	The space agency hopes to have astronauts moonwalking there by the end of the decade.
	Moonwalking?
	Some craters there never see light, so cold they may contain ice, and water is critical to long-term space exploration.
	NASA plans to basically hire these companies to send payloads to the moon like you'd call an Uber or a Lyft.
	But these companies have to make it work first, and that's what we're seeing today.
	Not since the end of the Apollo era has an American lander parked itself on the surface of the moon.
	This mission will last roughly a week until lunar night freezes the solar batteries.
	Oh, and so then the thing is just dead in a week.
	Oh man, so here is... This is so stupid.
	Maybe dead now for all we know.
	Yeah, well listen... And by the way, that report from CBS did not... It did the right thing about the water.
	Yeah, but they lied about the speed.
	We think we came down with, like I said, about six miles an hour this way and about two miles an hour this way and caught a foot in the surface and the lander has tipped.
	Like, we think.
	He doesn't even know!
	They don't have telemetry on this thing?
	At the simplest...
	The absolute simplest gadget in an airplane can tell you if you're flying on your side or upside down.
	But we think we, our foot caught on, you know, maybe it was like a rock or something and then we tipped over.
	Surface and the lander has tipped like this.
	And we believe this is the orientation of the lander on the moon.
	Doesn't even know the actual orientation, which I think is two-spirit.
	And nearly 24 hours later, scientists say the lander is still stable and they do have communication with it.
	The sun is charging all of the batteries on board.
	Wait a minute!
	It's the dark side of the moon!
	No, they mentioned that it's at the point where the sun is just glimpsing over the horizon.
	Oh.
	And like a good little movie, you bought it.
	And he has enough juice at that level to judge it.
	Oh yeah, I believe it right away.
	way i believe all of this bringing all of the batteries on board now keep in mind they have not seen any images from the lander at this point and are relying simply on data and code to really understand what is happening with the lander on the moon now we did talk about pictures from the surface these scientists say we could possibly see some images later this weekend but at this time scientists are not commenting on whether or not any of the payloads on board could be in jeopardy if this lander is in fact on its side
	They don't even know if it's on its side.
	I have one more report.
	This will make it a three by three plus one.
	This is from Anderson 360.
	Kristen, tell us what's really going on with this moon landing.
	The first time a private company has ever done this.
	The first time an American-made spacecraft has done this since 1972.
	And Anderson, it's the first time that any spacecraft has touched down on the south pole of the moon, a critical spot.
	They think that's where ice is, water.
	It's where NASA wants to build a lunar base for Artemis astronauts, the first astronauts to return to the moon since the Apollo program, and it's where China wants to build a base as well.
	China!
	But Anderson, some real nail-biting moments, the NASA administrator described it as an Apollo 13 moment, with no humans on board, of course, because of some of the technical issues they had to troubleshoot.
	Yeah, what happened?
	I mean, up until the last second, the difficulties.
	Yeah, Anderson, it's so wild.
	I mean, they were really fixing on the fly.
	They had an issue.
	You know how radar works.
	Radar, it sends out a radio signal, which then bounces off an object, which lets you tell how far away you are from it.
	Well, this is LIDAR.
	Laser, instead of radio waves.
	Light waves bouncing off of it.
	And that's what the spacecraft, this robotic uncrewed spacecraft, uses to find a safe landing spot.
	Because the moon has, you know, craters and boulders all over it.
	There was a problem with Intuitive Machines' LiDAR navigation system and so it just so happened that NASA had an experimental LiDAR payload.
	I love the little laugh in there.
	So it just so happened.
	There was a problem with Intuitive Machines' LiDAR navigation system and so it just so happened that NASA had an experimental LiDAR payload on the lander as well.
	They were somehow able to Patch it through to the lunar lander, Odysseus, and that experimental NASA navigation system, LIDAR, is what they were able to use to get this on the surface of the moon.
	So, pretty incredible that they were able to pull it off, but now we want to see the pictures, Anderson, right?
	Yeah, we do, right?
	Time for the boys to get to work!
	Can someone explain, or somebody ask, cause they don't even bother, to ask why they're using LiDAR instead of Radar?
	No, because it's LiDAR.
	L-I-E-D-A-R.
	LiDAR.
	Cause it's show title, LiDAR.
	Yeah, I'm writing it down.
	Writing it down, writing it down.
	LiDAR, I like that a lot.
	Oh, it's also...
	It's all so sick.
	It's a botch.
	Let's just call it what it is.
	The thing landed, hit a rock, fell over, and I can't get up.
	I've fallen and I can't get up.
	Well, too bad.
	Let's just say none of it's true.
	I'm not believing it.
	And what is this outfit?
	What is this intuitive machines?
	Where's the CEO?
	Did you look him up?
	Look him up.
	They're in the wiki page.
	Wiki page, but how about...
	Now, how about a page on them?
	Intuitive Machines.
	It's an American Express company?
	Really?
	Who are the investors?
	Let me see who the investors are.
	I think it's a different company.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Is this in Houston?
	We open access to the moon for the progress of humanity.
	This is an American Express company?
	They're on NASDAQ.
	They're a public company.
	L-U-N-R is the ticker symbol.
	Lunar.
	Yes.
	Founded in 2013.
	They've had three NASA lunar missions.
	Oh, I love this.
	Years of executive aerospace experience.
	250 years of experience.
	If you count up all the old dudes who must be working there.
	Yeah, of course.
	So, was this a SPAC?
	This smells of a SPAC.
	I have no idea.
	Well, I think we should short it.
	With government money coming in?
	I don't think so.
	Well, yeah, well, I thought it's, yes, no, it's not American Express.
	It's an American company, headquartered in Houston, founded by Stephen Altemus, Cam Ghaffarian, Tim Crane, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Well, they got a lot of money.
	They must have a lot of money.
	They took it public.
	That was just so they could cash out.
	Their money comes from the government.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, how come we're never in these, these, these scams?
	Because we're not scammers.
	Oh.
	Hello.
	You're right.
	Hmm.
	Wogby Ofori, Partnership and Open Innovation Strategist.
	We got to talk to that guy.
	Hey, Wogdy.
	How do we get in on this?
	Wogby.
	Is that his name?
	Wogby?
	Yeah.
	W-O-G.
	They call him Wogs.
	The Wogs.
	Wogby.
	It's all these dudes with crew cuts.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, fine.
	I mean, I wish them well.
	Too bad it tipped over.
	We think.
	We don't actually know.
	We don't actually know if it tipped over.
	Nobody even thought that it might tip over and there'd be some mechanism to stand it back up.
	That's what gets me.
	If it tipped over, which I get the sense that it did, they couldn't stand it back up because they never thought that it would ever tip over.
	Hello?
	Listen to this.
	So they have lunar access services.
	One of them is rideshare.
	Let's see.
	Yeah, Rideshare.
	Getting to space should be easy and custom-tailored to fit your needs.
	Our Lunar Transfer Orbit delivery services can accommodate up to 1,000 kilograms of payload and deliver customers into a myriad of high-energy orbits.
	We launch payloads for deployment after launch vehicle separation and from the steadfast platform of our landers in lunar orbit.
	Your results may vary due to road and weather conditions.
	So they're going to be a rideshare company.
	It's the Uber of space.
	I get it.
	Yeah, there's a money maker.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Somehow you got to think that this is bullcrap.
	All right, let's go to Ukraine.
	Oh, goody.
	I spotted a new term that we have to keep an eye on.
	Okay.
	And let's play Ukraine Anniversary.
	The term is... Well, you'll hear it in here.
	I use the initials FSI.
	Ukraine Anniversary.
	Day Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine enters its third year.
	Full-scale invasion.
	And on this anniversary of the start of the war, it's worth stepping back and noting that neither Russia nor Ukraine has made progress on its goals, despite hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides.
	Russia has failed to occupy all of Ukraine, and Ukraine has failed to retake all of the land occupied by Russian forces.
	Wait a minute, Russia never said they were going to occupy the whole country.
	Tell me about it.
	So let's play, I want to play these two FSI clips.
	These are the two, this is Nick Schifrin, the first one.
	I think you just heard that.
	Yep, yep.
	Play FSI, Nick Schifrin.
	Oh, hold on.
	Is that something different?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, this is from NPR.
	Oh, okay.
	Thank you.
	Got it.
	Before the full-scale invasion, the 28-year-old who asked us to withhold his last name was a snowboard instructor, a tour guide.
	Oh, full-scale invasion.
	Oh, so this is the new, this is the new-new.
	This is the new-new.
	Hey, listen, Putin failed at his... And here it is on FSI on PBS, just to get it again.
	Yes, okay.
	Today, Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine enters its third year.
	Good catch!
	Good catch!
	Now, this is just two.
	I've heard about five of these.
	And they've decided to drop it.
	Now, do you remember when this started three years ago?
	I certainly do.
	There was no full-scale invasion.
	There were a bunch of under-fueled tanks that kind of came into the country and stalled and they were just, you know, a full-scale invasion by the Russian army.
	Wouldn't be what we were saying in Ukraine, and the Russians themselves just called it a military action, a police action, they didn't even want the word war used.
	Special military operation, it's all about the Donbass region, yeah.
	That is not a full-scale invasion, yet PBS and NPR among others are now using this term full-scale invasion.
	I feel ripped off by these these great media organizations.
	So you heard part one of the NPR full-scale invasion.
	Let's play part two.
	Ukraine runs low on ammunition and weapons, with resupplies from the United States and other allies more in doubt than ever.
	Russia is going on the offensive in Ukraine's east.
	Joining us to discuss this is NPR's Kyiv correspondent, Joanna Kakissis.
	Hey, Joanna.
	Hey, Scott.
	So tell us how Ukrainians are observing this anniversary today.
	So, Scott, it's a somber day.
	Ukrainians are very proud that their country is still defending itself against a much larger enemy with a much larger arsenal.
	But there is just a sense of exhaustion and loss.
	And you could really sense that at a rally in central Kiev today, where many were demonstrating to highlight the cases of thousands of Ukrainian prisoners of war.
	Here's Anton Tarasov.
	He's a 49-year-old soldier who was in a cave on a short break from the front lines to see his elderly mom.
	I'm not even sure to who this is more difficult to the civilians or to the soldiers Like my mom for example.
	She's eight years old but We are stronger than Russians.
	We love freedom too much.
	We love it more than they love war So we will win We love freedom more than they love war Yeah.
	Oh, there's a slogan.
	I love that one.
	So this was no good, this report.
	So we have to go back to PBS.
	And let's get to Victoria Nuland so we can really get the BS up at the highest level possible.
	She was everywhere.
	She was with What's-Her-Face, with Christiane Amanpour.
	She was blanketing and it's great to have her back on the airwaves because once again it reminds us what evil and sin does to your overall look.
	She looks terrible.
	The Biden administration today unveiled a new set of sanctions against Russia to punish it further for the full-scale invasion of Ukraine that began two years ago tomorrow.
	The sanctions are also meant to target Russia for the death of anti-corruption activist and politician Alexei Navalny.
	He died in an Arctic prison one week ago from a cause still unknown.
	Earlier today, I spoke with U.S.
	Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland About the state of the war two years on.
	Victoria Nuland, welcome back to the NewsHour.
	As the world prepares to mark the second anniversary of Putin's Ukraine invasion, Ukraine's counteroffensive has stalled.
	Ukraine lost a brutal months-long battle for Avdivka.
	Additional funding, as you well know, is stuck in the GOP-led house.
	And Russia is showing no signs of quitting.
	What is the outlook for Ukraine right now?
	Well, Jeff, you are not wrong that these are tough days for Ukraine.
	And as you said, they've had to come out of Avdeevka.
	When I was out there a couple of weeks ago, there were soldiers on the front line with only 20 bullets a day to defend themselves.
	And this is why the administration is pushing so hard for this additional $60 billion to support Ukraine.
	Yeah, so two things.
	This 20 shells a day is a meme she's repeated everywhere.
	What bullcrap is that?
	I'm sitting in a foxhole.
	They're shooting at me.
	I got a bunch of a bucket full of bullets.
	I shoot the 20 off.
	Ivan, you've got to stop.
	This is your limit.
	Are you kidding me?
	No, because of Trump, because Trump told the GOP not to pass the money, and therefore these poor Ukrainians are sitting in their trenches, because it's just like World War I, it's a war of attrition, and they only have 20 shells a day.
	Now, when she says shells, it's a little unclear if that's 20 shells, like the big ones they're shooting out of the cannons, or if that's... I thought she said 20 bullets.
	Let me listen to the end there.
	That is important.
	battle for Avdivka and the GOP.
	And I didn't like that you said you're not wrong.
	You are not wrong that these are tough days for Ukraine.
	And as you said, they've had to come out of Avdivka.
	When I was out there a couple of weeks ago, there were soldiers on the front line with only 20 bullets.
	Okay, she says bullets.
	In a report I have, she said shells.
	So, it's bullets.
	Maybe it's shells.
	But she said bullets, so bullets is bullets.
	She said bullets, that means you're sitting in a foxhole with a bucket full of bullets and you can only shoot 20 of them in.
	If they come at you, too bad!
	Don't use any more of those bullets because you only had 20.
	You got a bayonet.
	That's what the bayonet is for.
	Okay, onward with her crap.
	With this money, we actually think that they can make some serious gains in 2024, particularly by enhancing some of the asymmetric techniques that they have been using.
	Asymmetric techniques?
	Yeah, rocks!
	What is an asymmetric technique in warfare?
	Well, what they showed is a fighter jet.
	Little bitty drones with like a handgun duct tape to the front.
	That's what the Canadians are doing or the UK.
	A million drones.
	A million tiny drones.
	So there's these drones and they got a little handgun.
	You can see a little gun sitting on there.
	And it flies around and shoots just randomly.
	Every time it shoots, it backs up about five feet because of the... Yeah.
	This is asymmetric.
	That's asymmetric.
	Okay, got it.
	But we need to support them, just as the Europeans have just given them an additional $54 billion.
	Well, so far, House Speaker Mike Johnson has refused to bring up a Senate-passed package, at least for a quick vote.
	Is there a way for the administration to get that much-needed aid to Ukraine absent action from Congress?
	Jeff, I would just start by reminding that this bill passed overwhelmingly in the Senate.
	Seventy senators supported it.
	And they supported it because they understand that as much as this is about Ukraine's ability to survive as a democratic state, it is also about the larger principles of a free and open international order that benefits the United States.
	And if we don't stand with Ukraine, if Putin wins here, then dictators and tyrants all over the world will take note and will get hungry with their own territorial aspirations.
	So we need to pass this money and the American people broadly understand that.
	So we are hopeful that they will tell their members when they're home During this recess, how much they support this money and we are confident that it will pass.
	Okay, so a couple things.
	One, we support the money.
	Two, they didn't go home on the recess.
	They all went to Ukraine.
	Everybody was in Ukraine.
	Queen Ursula was in Ukraine.
	Chuck Schumer's in Ukraine.
	Everyone is hanging out in Ukraine, bowing to Zelensky.
	And here's the question.
	If it's so known that they only have 20 bullets a day, why hasn't Putin gone full roughshod and just ran right over everybody?
	If they're out of ammo, it's the end of the exercise here.
	If it really was an FSI, don't you think that it would have ended by now?
	Or is Putin's mission different than we're being told?
	He's an idiot.
	Different than we're being told.
	The other thing is, throughout this interview, and there's these, how many clips are there?
	Five?
	This is three.
	We're at three now.
	We're on number three.
	Throughout this interview and all the other news and stuff you've heard, not one reporter even brought up or mentioned negotiations to end this idiotic war that's costing billions and billions and tens of billions of dollars.
	Well, would you want to be out of a job?
	Here we go.
	President Biden today announced more than 500 sanctions on Russia.
	This is the largest tranche since the conflict started.
	Is this a tacit admission that the previous sanctions haven't worked?
	What with Russia's military-industrial complex up and running and... I love... I hear this more often now too.
	There's a military-industrial complex but it's only Russia.
	We don't have one.
	Seemingly drawing on limitless supplies and support from its authoritarian allies.
	Well, let me start with your premise, Jeff, that previous sanctions haven't worked.
	Russia has become a pariah state around the world, thrown out of the international banking system, and now so desperate for weapons that it has to go to countries like Iran and North Korea to get them.
	But those Russians are wily, and they have over the last decade.
	I love that one.
	Those Russians are wily.
	They're wily e coyote.
	To get them.
	But those Russians are wily and they have over the last six months found ways to evade sanctions.
	But we've also got smarter about how to hurt them.
	And that's why this package is so massive.
	It looks at punishing sanctions evaders.
	It looks at closing down further Russia's access to credit and finance.
	It also punishes for the death of the leading opposition figure Navalny at the hands of Putin and his present guards and it sanctions those involved in the abduction of Ukrainian children into Russia.
	So it is a massive package and partly it's because we've got to staunch this evasion Can I just interject your clip sequence here with one... No, you can't right now because you have to back it up and listen to what she said at the very end.
	I heard about the children.
	I heard about the children.
	No, no, no.
	There's this phrase she uses that... Oh, OK.
	I'm sorry.
	Can I... Do you want me to play the last few seconds of that clip?
	Yeah.
	Those involved in the abduction of Ukrainian children into Russia.
	So it is a massive package and partly it's because we've got to staunch this evasion.
	Staunch this evasion?
	Staunch this invasion.
	I think she said evasion.
	She didn't say invasion.
	Yeah, she did say evasion, but the word I'm looking for, play clip four, because it's only this term.
	It is a massive package, and partly it's because we've got to staunch this evasion, and because we have far more targets now as we understand better how to staunch the Russian industrial complex.
	Staunch.
	Look it up.
	Go right now to the Wicked Book of Knowledge and look up Staunch and tell me what the hell she's talking about.
	Firm and dependable, especially in loyalty.
	Stop the flow of a liquid to Staunch to stop the flow.
	Um, that's what I'm getting right off the hand, right off hand.
	Stop, staunch, to check or stop the flowing of, stop or check in its course, to make, so stop, to stop the flow, to staunch, to staunch, to stop the flow.
	Doesn't sound like defeat.
	I just found it peculiar.
	No, it's ridiculous.
	Can I just... Yeah, play your clip.
	Yeah, just about the sanctions, the great sanctions that we've placed on Russia.
	Oil tankers like these are still bringing Russian oil into the EU, and it earned the Kremlin 1.1 billion euros last year.
	According to a new report by the NGO Global Witness, a legal loophole is allowing Russia to sell its oil in the EU despite a sanctions ban against imports.
	Countries which haven't imposed sanctions on Russian oil are able to import millions of barrels of Russian crude oil, they refine them in those countries, and at the point that they've become a refined product like fuel or diesel, it's no longer considered Russian, and so this fuel is freely imported into the European Union.
	They followed oil tanker movements and delved into publicly available Russian tax revenue information in their research.
	The oil is mainly coming through India and Turkey, but also Bulgaria, which is actually inside the EU.
	When the EU brought in the sanctions on refined petroleum products in February 2023, they did so with limited exceptions.
	One of those exceptions being to allow Bulgaria to continue to import refined oil in order to prevent a major economic hit to the EU's poorest nation.
	So, bullcrap.
	Bullcrap.
	They don't really mean it.
	They just want money.
	You know what's interesting is the figure that they used.
	This oil coming out of Russia surreptitiously brought them $1.4 billion.
	We're trying to ship $60 billion to Ukraine just so they can have more than 10 bullets.
	20.
	It's 20.
	20.
	I'm sorry.
	What am I thinking?
	And I hope your Newland clip has the money shot.
	Does it?
	Five?
	Yes.
	Is it the money shot?
	Otherwise, I got the money shot.
	No, mine doesn't have them.
	I don't know if it does or not.
	I don't know what you're looking for.
	But once you play this, then you play your money shot.
	Okay.
	And this is quite worrying, is that Russia has been willing to intensify its economic and security relationship with China, in fact, becoming increasingly dependent on China.
	And that is how it is fueling its war machine.
	It's also been willing to put the vast majority of its own economic stimulus into the war effort.
	So it is starving Russia and Russians of investment in education in their own future, all in service of Putin's imperial ambitions.
	So what we're having to do is adjust as well.
	As we wrap up our conversation, you said you're confident that the aid package will ultimately pass Congress.
	There is this question, though, of what good would additional... Wait a minute, what did he just say?
	He just said it'll pass ultimately?
	What?
	The do is a just as well.
	As we wrap up our conversation, you said you're confident that the aid package will ultimately pass Congress.
	There is this question though of what good would additional aid do, especially among those who view this as a war of attrition and point to the slow progress of Ukraine's counter offensive.
	If the U.S.
	continues to provide Ukraine the same sorts of weapons, why wouldn't that lead to a further stalemate?
	First of all, this A is going to allow Ukraine to do four things.
	It's going to allow them to continue to fight.
	It's going to allow them to build a highly deterrent military of the future so that they will increasingly be able to stand on their own feet in security terms.
	It's going to help them recover and get more of their own people home and rebuild their tax base so that there's less economic support that they need from the rest of the world.
	And it's also going to help them reform and become a more European democratic country.
	Bullshit!
	They're getting increasingly proficient at asymmetric weapons.
	And I expect, as I said in Kiev a couple of weeks ago when I was there, that if we can provide this support, Putin's going to get some very nasty surprises on the battlefield in 2024.
	Bullshit.
	Okay, so yes, big bull crap, because when she was talking to globalist Christiane Amanpour, she had a whole different story about this money.
	No one mentioned that, that's what we needed, they needed bullets.
	No, we're gonna give them money so they can bring people back home, so they can, you know, start their tax base, and no, no, no, no.
	She said a couple of quiet things out loud in this interview.
	What's your response to him and others here telling us, you know, America talks a good game, but right now we're stalled and it needs to remember it is the father, mother of democracy and freedom around the world.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, thank you, Christian.
	That's the point that President Biden is making as well.
	And that 70 senators made just last week in passing overwhelmingly the administration's supplemental request including 60 billion for Ukraine.
	So now the question is in the House of Representatives and support for Ukraine across the United States is still strong.
	So we hope that representatives will reflect that in the way they vote.
	And it's strong, not just because people understand how brave and resilient Ukraine has been, but that this is not just about Ukraine.
	If we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, he will keep going.
	And autocrats and tyrants all around the world will take comfort and think that they too can chunk off a piece of their neighbor.
	So I think she read the secret or something.
	It's like, if I just keep saying that people really are all for it, then it'll happen.
	And here is the money shot!
	Do you have any actual belief or reason to believe that eventually this bill will be paid?
	And if not, how are you going to make sure Ukraine gets vital weapons?
	By the way, I love that Amanpour says that this bill will get paid.
	What, did they send us an invoice?
	Are we down to that now, or just a Venmo QR code?
	What do they do?
	Instead of, this bill will be passed, she says this bill should be paid.
	This bill will be paid, and if not, how are you going to make sure Ukraine gets vital weapons and ammunition?
	Christiane, I have strong confidence that when the House comes back after they've been out in their districts hearing from the American people, after they have heard from Ukraine, they have heard from Europe, which by the way just passed $54 billion in additional aid itself.
	Yeah, over 10 years.
	that we will do what we have always done, which is defend democracy and freedom around the world, not just for victims of tyrants like Putin, but in our own interest in preserving a free and open international order.
	That's what we need to do.
	We've done it before.
	And by the way, we have to remember that the bulk of this money is going right back into the U.S. economy to make those weapons, including good-paying jobs in some 40 states across the United States.
	And there it is.
	Oops.
	So she's either lying about helping the Ukrainians rebuild with their tax base, etc.
	Or she's lying about it going straight into the military-industrial complex, which I believe is what it's doing.
	And I think at this point, that's the only thing keeping our economy afloat.
	That and AI chips.
	I mean, what else?
	AI chips.
	And things are about to get interesting because the biggest soy boy politician is, it looks like it's definitely happening, Mark Rutte, former Dutch Prime Minister, who I have met, who is a hunk of soy.
	He ran HR at Unilever.
	And then all of a sudden he was Prime Minister.
	He's weak, he's wimpy, he's a total yes man, but he talks a big game!
	For over a decade, he's been a mainstay in European politics.
	And now Mark Rutte's in pole position to take another leadership role crucial for the continent.
	The outgoing Dutch Prime Minister has received a number of endorsements to lead the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO.
	On Thursday, the White House backed Rutte for the job, as did the UK Foreign Office and a spokesperson for German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
	Other messages of support came during the Munich Security Conference last weekend.
	And of course with Mark Rutte we were partial and nostalgic about the past and talking a little bit about the future and as you will know he's in the running to become NATO Secretary General and I personally wish him the best of luck.
	I'm very excited by him becoming NATO Secretary General because he has the perfect Dutch accent for me to make fun of.
	It's coming up.
	In that endeavor.
	The next NATO Secretary General will succeed Jens Stoltenberg in October.
	They'll have the challenge of sustaining the alliance's support for Ukraine's costly defense against Russia.
	And depending on the outcome of the US presidential election, they may have to work closely with Donald Trump, an outspoken NATO critic.
	In Munich, Rutte said Europe should focus more on Ukraine than on the presidential frontrunner.
	And we should, because you also mentioned the West, the US.
	Stop moaning and whining and nagging about Trump.
	And we have to work with whoever is on the dance floor.
	I love this guy!
	We have to work with whoever is on the dance floor.
	Stop moaning and whining and griping about him.
	By the way, my name is Mark Rutte.
	The last time the Dutchman was here was Jaap de Hoop Scheffer.
	And he was really great too.
	So, no worries.
	I take care of it.
	And I'm your HR guy here.
	Dance with me.
	Dance with me, Trimpy!
	This guy, he'll be fun.
	He'll almost be good as that.
	No, it's great because I love that voice.
	I gotta play that again.
	I just love the end there.
	That is so good, what he said.
	Trump said Europe should focus more on Ukraine than on the presidential frontrunner.
	And we should, because you also mentioned the West, the US.
	Stop moaning and whining and nagging about Trump.
	And we have to work with whoever is on the dance floor.
	Hey, whoever's on the dance floor, I dance with him, Trumpy.
	Come on, man, I dance with you.
	Let's dance, let's dance.
	Wanna do a little conga line?
	Hey, Trump, let's do it.
	I can't wait.
	I can't wait.
	I vote yes.
	I vote yes.
	Bring him in.
	Oh man, he is such a douche.
	And the outgoing, I mean, the guy who got kicked out?
	Yeah, exactly.
	All these European countries, they're all just waiting to get the big job in Brussels.
	That's all they really want.
	I just want that job in Brussels.
	As long as I can get that, then I'll be good.
	Do you know Queen Ursula has never won an actual election for any public office in Germany ever?
	Well, she was the Minister of Defense and got kicked out.
	That's why she was then appointed.
	She didn't even run.
	She's running now.
	She is so annoying that no one will vote for her.
	Yeah, I know.
	But she's fine.
	You can pick her and put her in some... Now she's Queen of the, you know, the EU.
	Not by anyone's wanting her.
	Did we play that clip on the last show?
	I don't think I had a clip.
	Hold on a second.
	Ursula.
	Hold on.
	Yes, here it is.
	This is a little clip of her.
	A history maker and a trailblazer.
	Ursula von der Leyen became the first woman president of the European Commission in 2019.
	The trust you placed in me is confidence you placed in Europe.
	Her selection came as a surprise to many.
	Not a former prime minister like many of her predecessors, but a struggling in the German government of Angela Merkel.
	Fast forward to 2022, and the Forbes list calls von der Leyen the most powerful woman in the world.
	The most powerful woman in the world.
	And again in 2023.
	So what got her there?
	Her commission proposed the world's most ambitious climate laws.
	Spearheaded the EU's successful Covid vaccine procurement programme.
	Yeah, with text messages we're not allowed to see.
	Right.
	Heavily supported Ukraine and talked tough against China.
	Those successes haven't won over all of the members of the European Parliament though, who will have a chance to block her second term.
	She's running now and I would not bet against her being re-elected.
	I would not bet against that.
	Because they love that building.
	Yeah, but she's not actually being elected by a democratic body.
	Well, hello!
	No, it's by the EU Starfleet Command.
	The douchebags that they're... Yes, it's the Starfleet Command.
	All appointed.
	Yes, Starfleet Command.
	For all practical purposes.
	May I shift for a second here to something else?
	Just to dance around and pat myself on the back, trying not to break my arm.
	A rude awakening for tens of thousands of AT&T customers.
	I woke up this morning, turned on my phone, and no internet.
	Check my phone, it's like, what's going on?
	I don't even, I see an SOS.
	Now I can't even use my GPS, my music.
	Call my wife, tell her where I'm gonna be.
	From Chicago to Dallas, Boston to Los Angeles, more than 74,000 users reported widespread problems.
	So on a personal level, it was definitely confusing and uncomfortable, but it wasn't the end of the world.
	Late today, AT&T apologized to customers and said service had been fully restored.
	Nearly three-quarters of adults live in households without a landline, so losing cell service in a disaster can cripple communications.
	That was the case in the Maui wildfires.
	But today's outage inundated emergency call centers with people dialing them up to test their phones.
	Massachusetts State Police posting that many 911 centers were flooded with calls.
	And in San Francisco?
	Please don't call 911 to verify if your phone works if you don't have an emergency.
	The FBI is in contact with AT&T and the FCC is actively investigating.
	The National Security Council says there's no reason to think that this was a cybersecurity incident.
	Does this incident worry you about the future?
	I always worry about our dependency on technology.
	I think it's also a good wake-up call and just a reminder that we can't depend 100% all the time on the technology that we depend on 100% of the time.
	A total last resort, experts say you can always go in person to your local fire or police department.
	So now we know that it was indeed a software update and the biggest complaint was not about loss of internet or loss of income or no no no what everyone was really mad about is I want some credit for this!
	New at 10 this evening, AT&T says it is trying to make things right after this week's nationwide service outage.
	Now, in a post to their website tonight, the provider apologized for letting customers down and promised a $5 credit to impacted accounts, and there are thousands of them.
	We are told it will appear on your bill in one to two cycles.
	AT&T blaming the hours-long outage on Thursday on a technical error For the Kurd while expanding their network.
	Now the FCC and the FBI right now are still investigating.
	Yeah, so, but they copped to it.
	It was expanding their network, whatever that means.
	So I have a very concerning comment about that clip.
	Yes.
	Exactly why, would somebody explain to me exactly why do you need phone service For the GPS on your phone to work.
	And that was elucidated in that particular clip.
	You saw I couldn't do anything.
	I couldn't tell my wife where I was.
	The GPS wasn't working.
	And I've noticed this when you have one of these phones and you lose your service for whatever reason.
	Why does the GPS go out?
	It makes no sense.
	Because they're tracking you is the reason.
	Yes, because most phones will give you accurate location based upon cell phone triangulation, tower triangulation.
	Yeah, of course they're tracking you.
	Hello!
	Surprise!
	I thought, how would you even know that?
	You don't take your phone out of your drawer.
	It's still in your drawer.
	I am on month 14.
	Yes.
	Of no phone.
	Yeah.
	Congratulations.
	Here's an observation.
	Um, what, because I talked to a couple people and there were people very freaked out.
	There was, there were friends of ours who were on their way to Austin and turned around.
	It's like, I don't want to go into Austin without cell service.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	And this is not good.
	No.
	And these are successful, smart individuals.
	The other part is when people saw, because you know, you didn't have a network and then it's, what I think happens with these phones is then it says SOS only, which means it either happens when you have no service or you haven't paid your service.
	I think, I'm not sure, maybe you can connect to another cell tower to send a 911 call or to make a 911 call, I'm not so sure, but the user experience of SOS only or SOS, Freaked people out because they couldn't call.
	They had no idea why SOS was there other than, oh my god, we're in an SOS situation.
	They literally did not know what that meant.
	It's a bad UI.
	I mean, it's a bad UI choice in hindsight.
	But yes, there were people who just felt crippled.
	Someone in church group, he said, you know, if it wasn't for you and your show, I would have been completely, I would have melted into oblivion out of fear.
	Because the cell service didn't work and it said SOS.
	And remember that they just, everyone just saw that Obama movie, the Obama produced movie about, you know, the whole system melting down and the Tesla's driving by themselves.
	That part kind of worked, sadly.
	This may not have been a failure at all.
	It could have been a test.
	It could have been a test.
	You are not wrong with that, John.
	I'm not wrong.
	You're not wrong.
	Meanwhile, there is an actual cyber issue across Chicagoland.
	This cyber attack impacts certain prescription refills in certain locations.
	The company ATT&CK says that they are not taking any shortcuts to fix this problem.
	The outage is expected to last through the remainder of the day.
	Still, there is concern if this outage isn't fixed by the weekend.
	A cyber attack against one of the country's largest prescription processors enters a third day.
	Change Healthcare provides prescription processing through Optum, which supplies technology services to thousands of pharmacies.
	The company was attacked on Wednesday, making certain prescriptions difficult to refill electronically.
	According to the Wall Street Journal, Optin's parent company, UnitedHealth, suspects a foreign government was behind the attack.
	Online, the company says, they've disconnected Change Healthcare's systems.
	You sure you weren't just expanding your network?
	Oh, he has a foreign state actor, everybody.
	How come that's not national news, then?
	That's local.
	That's Chicago.
	It should have been covered.
	And I want to, I'm very curious about your Kidfluencerz clips, but before we do that, I just wanted to follow up on something we talked about on the last show about these bogus charities and NGOs that are getting big money for... That's our exit strategy.
	It is, and it's quite easy to do.
	And remember, just because a charity has Catholic in their name doesn't mean... Doesn't mean a thing!
	No, it could be one hour photo.
	Doesn't mean you're gonna get your pictures in one hour.
	What are some other examples?
	Well, the classic is one hour cleaners.
	One hour cleaners, that's the best one.
	That's just the name.
	It's not advertising.
	So now, Ken Paxton, our Attorney General here in Texas, is going after one of them.
	Backed by dozens of local elected leaders this week, the El Paso Migrant Shelter Annunciation House flatly denying claims from the Attorney General that they participated in activities that he deemed illegal, including human smuggling.
	The Catholic non-profit instead claims Mr. Paxton is just trying to shut them down because he personally disagrees that the services they provide to migrants, services many in the border community say are badly needed.
	In December, when we were having about 3,000 asylum seekers coming through, we couldn't have made it without the Annunciation House.
	We couldn't have made it without the help We will not be intimidated in our work to serve Jesus Christ in our sisters and brothers fleeing danger and seeking to keep their families together.
	Is there no shame to refer to houses of God, houses of hospitality as stash houses?
	The Attorney General also accusing Annunciation House of withholding records, but lawyers for the nonprofit refuted that as well, saying his office only gave them small staff, 24 hours, they're small staff I should say, 24 hours to produce a massive amount of documents.
	So I love stories like this.
	So they had some very Catholic, bishop-y looking guy who showed up.
	I mean, he almost sounded like an actor.
	I really don't know anything about him, but Annunciation House, they are a non-profit.
	I went to the normal sources to look at their form 1990.
	Wouldn't you know, they haven't filed one since 2003.
	The only time they ever filed one.
	That is fraud right there.
	You cannot be a non-profit in the United States and not file your Form 990.
	Certainly not for 11 years.
	So I think this is just maybe the tip of the iceberg.
	Maybe they're under some other name and it is filed.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	I can't believe they'd go that long without filing any paperwork.
	This is a bonanza, John.
	It's a bonanza.
	There's so much fraud and waste and abuse.
	By the way, there's a new term, El Paso.
	El Paso is the new term.
	What does that mean?
	It's an acronym.
	LPAS.
	Dame Beth heard this and sent it to me.
	Legally Processed Asylum Seeker.
	LPAS.
	Look for it.
	Be on the lookout for the LPAS.
	Legally Processed Asylum Seeker.
	So I have a series of clips.
	Yes.
	This is a special that was done.
	It was actually quite good, but some of the big questions weren't asked, which I will ask during the playing of these clips.
	But the New York Times did a long look at so-called kidfluencers.
	And these are children who have accounts that are created by their mothers and they're just little, they're kids like 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 year olds.
	And there's thousands and thousands of these accounts and they, well, it's actually a disturbing series of clips and you'll be more disturbed as you listen to each one.
	Let's start with clip one.
	A new investigation looks at the disturbing world of so-called kidfluencers and the moms who run their accounts.
	One in three preteens say being an influencer is a career goal, but the reality poses serious risks to underage girls.
	Stephanie Sy looks at those concerns.
	Instagram doesn't allow children younger than 13 to have their own accounts, so what we're seeing is parents of kid fluencers set up and manage these accounts.
	Posting content of girls can be lucrative.
	Instagram makes it possible to have paid monthly subscribers, and kids apparel brands will pay thousands of dollars for a single post of a kid modeling, say, their dance leotards.
	But what might seem like innocent photos to a mom may read differently to a man or a pedophile.
	New York Times reporter Michael Keller analyzed data from 5,000 of these mom-run accounts as part of a New York Times investigation and joins me now.
	Michael, thank you for being here.
	I mean, the headline of your report really sums up the risk.
	A marketplace of girl influencers managed by moms and stalked by men.
	Whoa!
	I already know where this is going.
	This is a setup.
	This is a setup to legislation.
	There's no doubt about it.
	Well, there might be, but I think they're going to have trouble.
	Of course, this is also the gouge meta.
	Zuckerberg, yeah, of course.
	Yeah, he's not putting up enough money to the... Republicans.
	To the Republicans this time.
	Well, the Republicans, yeah, the Republicans for sure, the Democrats probably less so.
	But there's a lot of interesting potential here when you start listening to the numbers.
	The fact that they found 5,000 of these things that they looked into, which seems excessive, means that's the tip of the iceberg.
	Yeah.
	There's probably 20,000 of these screwball kidfluencers, which is idiotic if anything ever has been.
	And you have to wonder what's going on here.
	Let's go to part two.
	What did you find about how prolific these accounts are and why so many moms are into this?
	My colleague Jennifer Valentino DeVries and I wanted to look into this world of child influencers.
	And as you said, they often are too young to have accounts of their own.
	And so they're run by their parents.
	They got into them for a variety of reasons.
	There was a range from dancers and gymnasts who wanted to get free or discounted leotards in exchange for photos modeling the apparel.
	A lot of parents said that social media was the way they could assure a good digital resume for their child's future and maybe even It's only fans for children!
	or gain opportunities working with sought-after choreographers.
	On the more extreme end, your aspiring models, some had their own subscriptions, both on Instagram, where they would charge up to $20 a month for more photos or chat sessions with the child, or on other platforms where the monthly costs where they would charge up to $20 a month for more photos or chat sessions It's OnlyFans for Children.
	Lord Jesus, come quickly.
	it's only fans for children And for $250 a month you can chat with one of these kids.
	Oh, this is sick!
	It's totally, this is so sick!
	And here's one of the things that you listen to this report and you just wonder where the reportage actually is because this New York Times guy is like some sort of a weenie and they go on and on and on.
	Nobody seems to bring up the possibility, even though it has to be apparent, and there's a pun in there, it has to be apparent that there is some mom, single moms let's say, not to put You know, point them out specifically, who are whoring out their kids!
	This was never discussed.
	Before you continue, my sister Willow, you know, she did her dissertation on social networking, social media, and she did a lot of study.
	She got a degree in psychology, a master's, and she
	She did this, or she, I don't know if she came across the study or did the study herself, but she told me that the worst thing that moms are doing, early moms, is they are taking pictures while they are with their child, like nursing, or have their child in their arms, and she says it's been proven that this is very destructive for the bonding process between mother and child, because the mother is not focused on the child, the mother is focused on herself.
	And this is when this starts.
	It's really about the moms, I think.
	Or parents, I don't want to single out moms.
	But I think it's about the parents who are... I mean, this is... This is not good.
	Well, they only talk about moms here, so you leave the dads out.
	Okay.
	They probably don't even know about it.
	Unless you have documentation otherwise.
	Let's go with clip three.
	So your report also found that a lot of the followers of these accounts are men.
	Are they driving these accounts' popularity and their profits?
	So we did an analysis looking at the follower size of these accounts and the percentage of men in that audience and did find a correlation that as the audiences got larger, there were more men in them.
	Now, some parents and pretty much all the parents we spoke to said that men following them and posting inappropriately was a really big problem.
	Some of them said that the first thing they did when they woke up in the morning was block followers, and the last thing they did before they went to bed was block followers.
	They often post inappropriate or even propositioned girls in the comments below the photos.
	They do block them, as I said, but a lot of them ran into issues where if they blocked too many, Instagram would start limiting their ability to either follow new accounts or to block even more.
	One parent said, I can't believe this.
	I've reached my limit for the day of blocking creepy men.
	Oh my god, how about reporting?
	Have you considered reporting creepy men?
	Is it just blocking?
	Can't you report?
	Now this seems to me, this reminds me at this point of the problem you get with spam calls and these guys with the blue pillow and the PG&E, we get you a 5% discount if you just give us everything you know about yourself.
	Why doesn't the government, I mean, instead of finding more things to indict Trump about... Elizabeth Warren should be all over this.
	Yeah, where's Elizabeth Warren?
	And tracking these creepy men, as they put it, they have IP addresses, this is all trackable.
	Not all of them, sure.
	Some of them maybe go through a VPN.
	Some of them maybe fool around in some funny way.
	But this is like, you could stop this.
	If the government, instead of going after Trump about everything, would spend a little time...
	We have no intention of stopping this.
	Our lawmakers have no intention.
	They believe they need social media.
	They believe they need these companies to post their own idiotic crap about their little viral moment that they try to do during the so-called debates.
	The internet was a mistake.
	Well, I've said that forever, so let's go to clip four.
	Michael, I just want to show our viewers an example of what you're talking about.
	The New York Times in your investigation doesn't show the actual post, but you describe what the post showed.
	A nine-year-old in a golden bikini lounging on a towel, and then you show the comments section full of sexually suggestive remarks.
	But Michael, it doesn't stop at the comments in every case.
	You describe a world in which the girls are sucked in to this sort of internet underworld of sexual predation.
	Right, and that was what was truly disturbing in what we found.
	Beyond the suggestive or predatory comments, some parents actually received threats from some of the online, they would reach out and accuse them of exploiting their child and threatening to contact their school or their family and friends and seemingly expose them.
	Because it is worth noting that in, you know, photos of children in dance conventions are normal within that context.
	But within the context of the Internet, people bring to them, in some cases, their own skewed points of view.
	And so these men were trying to, seemingly with threats of blackmail, cause a lot of actual harm to the families.
	They're making this all about creepy men.
	How about the creepy moms doing this?
	Stop it!
	Like I said, that's the question that was never asked.
	How many of these moms and how much of this is the moms whoring out their kids?
	We really need to speak up and speak out about these black holes of evil and wickedness.
	This is horrible!
	So it occurs to me, Michael, that this is not just an investigation into risks that girls are taking online, but a story about parents who are making the decision to put their girls at potential risk, of ogling at the very least.
	What is the biggest takeaway for moms who are thinking of letting their daughters become influencers?
	So as we said, Instagram does allow parents to run these accounts for them, even when they're below 13.
	But what we found was that It is very hard to do so in a safe way, and that it may take hours every day of blocking creepy or possibly predatory men from interacting with the account.
	And the real life threats that this could lead to, maybe we heard stories of It's very disturbing.
	This is a disturbing report.
	up at people's doors and could go from the online world into real life and affect your family was a really strong takeaway for me.
	It's very disturbing.
	This is a disturbing report.
	Do you have a analysis of this?
	Yeah, I thought it was just scratching the surface.
	They They found 5,000.
	There's probably 20,000 or who knows how many.
	They don't mention anything about what about the 13-year-old doesn't need mom and she's decided to become an influencer.
	And how did this influencer thing take off in the first place?
	There's a lot of unanswered questions here.
	Creepy or not.
	It's the entire business model of Instagram.
	It is the business model of Instagram.
	Influencers.
	And there's money, and people are dumb, and they're not thinking, and the fact that they're just blocking and not reporting, the whole thing is wrong.
	It's very, very wrong.
	And this will all be added to COSA, the Kids Online Safety Act.
	What this will result in, with this I guarantee it, will be you cannot be on any of these so-called social media hellholes Without verified ID, government ID, that's where it's all going to lead to.
	Anonymity will be gone, mainly for the creepy dudes, but you will not be able to get an account unless it's verified, the government's going to know, it's going to end all the cool anonymous so-called free speech we have.
	This is coming down.
	I think this report is bullcrap.
	There is no way that the smart money can't get around any of these restrictions by creating phony baloney identities elsewhere in other countries using VPNs and free email accounts.
	I'm not saying it's going to fix it.
	I'm not saying you misunderstand what I'm saying.
	I'm not saying it's going to fix it, but it will be required for you to have an Instagram account.
	As an American, you will be required to go through this process of verification, or Twitter, or Facebook, or any of it.
	That's what they're doing.
	That's what they're setting up.
	It doesn't mean that it'll be effective, but that will be a requirement.
	Anything over a million users will have that requirement.
	I'm reading the law.
	I'm reading the bill and the amendments they're putting in there.
	It's on its way.
	Well, they're fooling themselves.
	I didn't say I was going to fix it.
	As long as creepy moms will want to whore out their children, that's never going to stop.
	Yes.
	And with that, you can conclude the segment.
	It's a horrible segment.
	I'm in desperate need of a good news segment.
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	60 trolls checking us out.
	We're down 300.
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	Yeah, and that was low.
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	Well, then maybe you shouldn't be playing these creepy mom clips.
	No, that probably kept them.
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	For instance, our No Agenda artists.
	They like to listen live, usually at their day jobs or doing something else, and then they just get on the stick and start doodling around and try and create artwork that we will then choose one for right after we're done and post it.
	And we want to thank Darren O'Neill, who really understood exactly what we're talking about.
	And he did a meta AI piece of album art.
	With a robot.
	All AI, no doubt.
	A robot.
	Even with the hands wrong.
	Oh yeah, the left hand has got the thumb on the wrong side.
	It was great!
	That was the best part.
	I wonder if that was intentional or if the AI screwed it up.
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	But the whole thing was perfect.
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	And it was good.
	I mean, we looked at it and went, you know... Well, except for the thumb.
	Well, but that, to me, that made it even better to show just how creepy and wrong all of this AI is.
	It was a meta piece.
	It was actually being sarcastic about and being critical.
	He wasn't being sarcastic.
	AI doesn't have that sort of sense.
	That AI was very ironic.
	No, Darren O'Neill has that sense.
	He knew how to use it.
	Yeah.
	A lot of people don't.
	Yeah, there were other pieces.
	Yeah, Garazet got quite good at this, I have to say.
	At prompt engineering.
	Yeah, prompt engineering.
	He's not an artist, he's a prompt engineer.
	Yeah, well he was actually kind of pretty good as an artist, but he's decided to give it up, throw it, hell with it, and now he's a prompt engineer, which is really, I'm surprised he doesn't have the AI doing his rock and roll show.
	His pre-show.
	It may be AI for all we know.
	But it could be pretty soon.
	We also like Tyler Bro- Well, you like Tyler Brown's, uh, moon landing with the slate, which I nixed.
	I'm like, no.
	It was too simple.
	Which one was this?
	It's the movie slate with Roll 33.
	Oh yeah, I did like that piece.
	I liked the super-duper, which is also from Darren, which you just hated.
	Which had nothing going on whatsoever.
	It just said super-duper.
	That's your opinion.
	There was no dimensionality.
	There wasn't any other little gimmick.
	Yeah, I got it.
	It was too small.
	You vetoed it.
	It's too small.
	It's too small.
	It's huge.
	We both kind of like commenter bloggers' faked moon landing.
	Kind of?
	Yeah, it was cute.
	It's a nice patch.
	Yeah.
	I use it for the pre-show announcement today.
	And then, uh, let me see, there's some other stuff.
	Um, all my fixes live in Texas.
	Didn't really quite, didn't really quite hit home.
	The commentary blogger also did the Dr. Phil one next to it, and he's missing a finger.
	It just didn't even look like – This is gone.
	We're on, what, iteration five or six of this art, and they still can't get the hands right?
	It didn't even look like Dr. Phil.
	It didn't look anything like him.
	Why is the microphone way up like that?
	Yeah, because AI doesn't understand audio.
	It doesn't understand anything.
	I'm getting sick of AI.
	Buckle up.
	Uh, Clip Custodian, nice little copy editor, red pencil, but no, I didn't quite have it.
	Um... I think that was it.
	I mean, other things... Was there anything else?
	No, I think the AI prompt engineers are getting better, though.
	You know, if they understand, if they have it in their hearts and their souls how to create, you know, what a good piece of art should look like, and they know how to create it, you know, it doesn't matter what tool you use, I guess.
	But you still have to have that funny bone mentality, or that, or irony, or something.
	And so, I just, there wasn't anything else.
	Is there anything else you wanted to comment on?
	Nope.
	Well, thank you very much, Darren.
	Darren O'Neill.
	I mean, his taste in music is questionable.
	As you always say.
	But this was a dynamite piece.
	We really appreciate it.
	Thank you very much.
	And thank you to all the artists for participating in this grand experiment.
	We try out every single show twice a week.
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	We love the new style, the new look.
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	And I'm going to be a nice guy today.
	I'm going to let you do the first one and I'll take that huge one that comes right after it.
	Yeah, there's another one after that.
	Okay, well this one is $1,000 and this is kind of an anomalous donation.
	It looks like $1,100 to me, not $1,000.
	$1,100.
	Yeah.
	I went back and forth with Zarin Denzel because I got a note from his brother.
	Oh.
	And his brother says, you can't use my name, my brother just donated a bunch of money and he's giving me the donation and I don't like your show, you suck.
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	He didn't say that, he never heard the show.
	Exactly.
	And so I sent that note to Zarn.
	I said, what is this?
	And he sent me a note back saying, I don't know, he's never listened to the show.
	I have no idea why he's getting all bent out of shape.
	But I never got the original note that was crediting anybody.
	So I've got no real note from Zarn.
	And if he has something he wants to tell us later, I will be amenable to running it as a make good.
	But the There's something missing here and it's not the back and forth that I did with him and his brother.
	Oh wait, didn't Zarn donate on the previous show?
	Isn't that where it came from?
	I thought that's where the problem stemmed from.
	Whatever, we got $1,100 from him here and we want to give him a double up karma and we'll look for something in the future.
	Yes, and the funny thing about the whole bit is that they heard about the No Agenda Show in Europe on a train from some random woman.
	Yes, some woman in Switzerland.
	There you go.
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	I guess.
	Oh, OK, I'll check it out.
	And Zarin checked it out.
	And his brother, I guess, is just a contrary.
	Now, why would I take the advice of some woman on a train out of nowhere?
	No, I'm not listening.
	All right.
	Here's a double up karma for you.
	Thank you, Zarin.
	You've got.
	Then we move to Vincent Visconti from Lantana, Texas, and send us a very long note.
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	A lot of it doesn't need to be read, seems to me.
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	As I was reading the newsletter last night, I came to the heart-wrenching realization that it has been way too long since making a producer-level contribution to the show.
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	You've been de-douched.
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	He says, please give credit for this executive producership to my smoking hot wife, Sinead, in light of our recent anniversary and her upcoming birthday.
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	And our anniversary is on February 2nd, which I recently discovered falls on the 33rd day of the year.
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	She's a good kid and we need to know how to pronounce her name.
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	Lastly, we can get some new business house selling and moving to Tennessee karma and our family favorite jingle, the train foamer guy.
	Sure, keep up the great work.
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	Sinead.
	Sinead.
	Changing to Sinead.
	Okay.
	So now we have the, uh, um, if I can move this thing over, this is going to take a second to get cleaned up.
	This is, uh, come on, come on, come on.
	I can read every, okay, Jake.
	Jake in God's country comes in with a, um, It will click up.
	I can't get there.
	333.33.
	Okay.
	And I can actually barely read this note, but I can, turns out, if I click on this thing.
	Oh my goodness.
	Just do it already.
	You know, it's not as easy when the thing blows out the spreadsheet.
	This is longer than the other note.
	Millennial producer here and it's been far too long since I've chipped in and he got 33 all over the place.
	I'll skip through that.
	I'm in a private investing industry allocating dollars for ultra high net worth families and institutions to purchase equity positions in privately held companies.
	In my travels, I deal with a spectrum of thoughts and ideologies.
	But one thing I'm struggling to get behind is the thesis of handing former President Trump the ticking time bomb.
	As you both are more likely aware, the Biden administration is doing almost everything to prop up Uncle Bernie for another weekend or two.
	It's not talking about Bernie Sanders.
	No.
	The record oil production, which people don't want to discuss, uncapped debt ceiling, which people don't want to discuss, phony jobs and inflation data, which we discuss, does not sound like a team ready to wave the white flag.
	My prediction not to be heeded as financial advice is as follows.
	I thought this would be good to read.
	And of course he puts the disclaimer in there because you can't really take this advice as financial advice.
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	Government continues to spend like drunken sailors throughout the year.
	It will lead to persistent inflation from 3% to 5% forcing no Fed cuts in 2024.
	I'm down with that.
	What?
	I'm down.
	I agree.
	I don't think there's going to be any cuts.
	They might raise it.
	They're never going to raise it.
	Not in an election year.
	Never happened.
	Okay.
	SP500 all-time high will continue throughout 2024.
	I think there will be a cut.
	NVIDIA is a house of cards.
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	I heard you.
	I may have.
	I probably lost my ass in the process.
	I bet you did.
	The next refinancing wave will trigger the next issue.
	2025 when mass refinancing will occur in a low to negative growth environment mixed with higher rates will show many emperors wearing no clothes.
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	Don't put your hard-earned dollars into the whims of Wall Street.
	In other news, I would be around, I should be around Nighthood.
	Next donation should do it.
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	Have not missed an episode since Greta was transposed as Wednesday Addams on the album artwork.
	That's some world rock, yeah.
	Jingles!
	Don't trust China anything, Reverend Al.
	Alright, thank you very much!
	Donald Trump, don't trust China!
	China is asshole!
	But resist, we must.
	We must.
	They're all jitty about a shutdown.
	The Tortese in the Race.
	Then co-author of Who-Breeze.
	U2 lead singer Bono.
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	Adam Ruiz is planning on moving back to the U.S.
	after living in China for the last five years.
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	We appreciate that.
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	I also turned 33 a few months ago, so I thought it'd be appropriate to donate $333.
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	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
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	Kimberly Cram.
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	He doesn't ask for it, but he deserves it.
	Kimberly Cram in Fort Myers, Florida.
	It's 23611.
	She's a first associate executive producer.
	She has no note that I can find.
	So I'm going to give her a double up karma.
	You've got And then we have Sir Oma, this is our second Associate Executive Producer, 228.24, ITM Gents, requesting some prayers, you bet, health, karma, and a heavy dose of F-cancer for my brother-in-law.
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	We'll put him on the prayer chain.
	He's strong and a fighter, but has a long road to recovery and treatment.
	Cheers and blessings, Sir Oma, you bet.
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	Or just find Linda Lou Patkin, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes on the producer list.
	Yes.
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	And it's a switcheroo.
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	I am once again asking for it to be a switcheroo to my mom, Stephanie, to get her close to Dame Hood.
	Keep up the work, guys.
	It's great work.
	jingles john's haunted donate and a goat karma donate donate donate you've got karma And I think I forgot Lindsay Patkins' Jobs Karma.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
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	There you go, that wraps up our... No it doesn't.
	That doesn't wrap up our Executive and Associate Executives?
	No, Cara Spangler in Mount Pleasant, Pennsylvania.
	Comes in at 200 bucks.
	And she says, ITM, some millennial karma and I got ants.
	Thank you for your courage, Cara.
	Alright, well that'll be our last one then.
	A little bit of ants for you and millennial karma.
	I got ants.
	I got ants.
	You've got karma.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	I have a feeling... Is there an actual Millennial Karma jingle?
	I want to make sure I did the right one.
	Is there?
	Am I Millennial Karma?
	Yes, yes, I was right.
	I think there is Millennial Karma.
	Yes, here it is.
	Oh my goodness.
	Oh God.
	I'm just telling you what it is.
	Millennial Karma.
	There you go.
	That's it.
	Our Executive and Associate Executive Producers was quite a short list today.
	In fact, we're going to hit the 50s incredibly quickly.
	For those who did support us with your treasure, thank you so much.
	We appreciate it.
	I wish everybody would do this from time to time.
	It would really help keep the show rolling here.
	These are real credits, these executive and associate executive producer credits for episode 1637.
	You can use them anywhere that credits are recognized, which is LinkedIn, your resume, and of course IMDB.com, where there are over a thousand people now with these credits.
	So thank you very much, and John will take us through to the 50s now.
	Yeah, we're gonna start with Diane Clinton in Chappaqua.
	Chappaqua?
	Is that right?
	Chappaqua.
	Chappaqua.
	That's right.
	Chappaqua, New York, 104.
	She also wrote a, gave us a card with a note referring to Pecheneg and his Calla Pigeon wife.
	Really?
	Not absolutely sure why, but she also says thanks for the plug for her pod.
	What is her pod?
	Well, we plugged it.
	Oh, we plugged it.
	Not today, we plugged it at some point.
	I don't know what it is because she didn't mention it in the card.
	Kevin McLaughlin is right there.
	Conquering North Carolina, the Archduke of Luna, 8008.
	1637boob.
	B-O-O-B-O-O-B.
	Not sure what that means, but Gary Blatt's next from Wayne, Pennsylvania.
	7777.
	Matthew Elwhart in Weatherford, Texas.
	6006.
	Kurt Lebanowski in Ramsey, New York.
	5904.
	Peter Chong in Lakewood, Washington.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Kurt has a birthday donation.
	He says, the longer I live, the more you get.
	56 on a show day.
	And he added in the fees.
	We appreciate that, Kurt.
	Peter Chong in Lakewood, Washington, 5809.
	Dame Nancy, San Bruno, California, 5529.
	Surprise Night, Yukon, Oklahoma, 5444.
	And we're already with this very short list today, very short, ludicrously short.
	Lack of support, I'd say.
	These are the 50s.
	Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California.
	Clara Paravel in San Rafael.
	Gaucho Woodworking in Redondo Beach, California.
	Look him up on the internets.
	James Farrell in Haverhill, Massachusetts.
	Michael Romano in Sebastopol, California.
	Brian Hummel in Wimberley, Texas.
	Samuel Conarday in North Riverside, Illinois.
	Charles Boyd in San Marcos, Texas.
	Fail Line Farm in Columbus, Georgia.
	Amy Grohl in Bureau in Washington by the airport.
	John Walter in Wenatchee, Washington.
	And a bunch of Washingtonians at the end here.
	And also Baroness Knight.
	And we thank everyone who came in under $50.
	We don't mention those.
	these people, even though there are not too many of them today, for making the show a 1637 a reality.
	And we thank everyone who came in under $50.
	We don't mention those.
	People like it because it's anonymous.
	And, of course, we love the $49.99s.
	Thank you if you're on one of your sustaining donations, which means you can make up any recurring donation that you want to, and just continue to go on a night or day layaway plan.
	It happens all the time that people reach that level, and you always support the show, certainly in these slower donation times.
	And once again, thank you to our Executive and Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1637!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Word. Order.
	Shut up, lady.
	Shut up.
	And you can become a producer at knowwhatchindedonations.com.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, no, what you're doing.
	Well, a very short list today.
	We have Kurt Lebanowski, who turns 56 today.
	Vincent Visconti, who wishes his daughter Aoife a happy birthday.
	She's 13.
	Please let me know how to pronounce her name so we can make good on the next show.
	And happy belated birthday to Adam Ruiz.
	And congratulations to all of you from everybody who's the best podcast.
	Something sounds weird all of a sudden.
	Something's happened.
	Are you here?
	Does it sound weird to you?
	Did something change?
	That went over-modulated for some reason.
	Yeah, I don't know why.
	It just happened earlier in the show.
	Huh.
	Just out of the blue.
	Yeah, that's very odd.
	Strange.
	Something's going on.
	You're losing a capacitor in that pod thing.
	I hope not.
	I hope not.
	That was very strange.
	Let me see.
	Oh!
	Now I see what the problem was.
	Somehow the processing got turned off.
	Yeah, that'll do it.
	Okay, alright, that should fix it now.
	Um, let me see.
	Oh, it's, uh, we have no nightings, no title changes, just another plea, noagendadonations.com.
	Please support the show.
	No agenda.
	I like the troll rooms.
	Uh, the troll room said it was either a glitch, a cyber attack, The spooks spliced into the audio stream.
	Yeah, I think it was all of the above.
	Hey, Jesse Coy Nelson came back with a dynamite meetup report from the Singapore meetup!
	Hey, it's the Singapore No Agenda Geo Jigsaw meetup.
	This is Senator Geo Jigsaw.
	We're all having fun here, getting blasted.
	Listener Chris, listener since 2009, proud member of the Deuces Club.
	It's probably time I donate again.
	Thanks so much for coming to Singapore.
	It's nice to have the first meet-up here.
	This is Andy.
	Oh shit, I shouldn't have given my last name.
	Are there any more people in Singapore that listens to this?
	Let us know, please.
	This is Anthony Fauci.
	I came to this meetup because I want to see how things are going in Asia with my shots.
	In the morning, at night, you must say goodbye to me.
	Hey, there were people there.
	Hello, Singapore!
	We need some donations from Singapore.
	There are people living out there.
	We got Stripe now, so you can use that.
	Speaking of Anthony Fauci, we had dinner with a couple people last night.
	I love my Fredericksburg people.
	The latest that I heard.
	Did you know that Mother Teresa, that Anthony Fauci is actually the child of Mother Teresa, and Mother Teresa is a dude?
	I bet you didn't know that, did you?
	Well, you know, looking at Mother Teresa, I can kind of believe the last thing, but then again, how could Anthony Fauci be the son of Mother Teresa if she's a dude?
	Mother Teresa fathered Anthony Fauci.
	And it goes much deeper than that.
	Yeah, you moved to the right place.
	I'm telling you, I love this place.
	It's fantastic.
	I also love the Guardians of Reality.
	They had a meet-up in Florence, Kentucky.
	That's Florence, y'all.
	Jen of the Woodland Shire reported and she says that it was great.
	They had many members of the Shrunken Amygdala.
	Trey, Leah, Greg, Newcomer Mitchell.
	And let's see, topics of discussion, birthing stories, breastfeeding, doulas, oh my god, trust policy for wills, carpentry needs on fixed income resources, connections, solutions, Bitcoin tax law for small business, religion, specifically Catholic and orthodoxy, books and authors.
	I mean, this is exactly, they didn't make a report obviously, but this is exactly the kind of stuff you can get into at a KnowAgenda meetup.
	And the great thing is, It doesn't matter where you're coming from, what angle you're coming from, everybody loves each other.
	It's a great place to get connection, as you know that... What are you eating?
	Are you drinking or are you eating?
	I'm not eating anything.
	Are you drinking something?
	Did you crack a can?
	You did, didn't you?
	What did you do?
	What is it?
	What did you get?
	I got the Pellegrino.
	Ah, there it is.
	Now, let me tell you what this is.
	Uh-huh.
	It's Pellegrino Tangerine and Wild Strawberry Essentia.
	Mmm, yum!
	And it tastes, you know what it tastes like?
	Like poop.
	It tastes like nothing.
	It tastes like plain, unflavored mineral water.
	Well, that's interesting because, and I always open my show beer You never call me on it, but I am drinking a Waterloo Blackberry Lemonade, and it tastes just like your thing!
	There's no taste to this!
	Really?
	You said you'd have blackberry.
	No, it tastes like mineral water.
	Which is a very strong flavored berry.
	It tastes like mineral water.
	It really does.
	It's like they forgot to put it in.
	Maybe they're just packing mineral water and putting boney baloney labels on everything.
	You're probably right!
	Hey, noagenda meetups dot com!
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the knights and dames.
	Oh, I forgot some here.
	You want to be where you won't be.
	Triggered or held to blame.
	I forgot to mention the meetups taking place on Thursday, which is the North Georgia Monthly Meetup.
	That'll be at six o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
	And also on Thursday, the Denver Leap Year Day Meetup, 630 Bar 404 in Denver, Colorado.
	There's a whole lot for March, April.
	You definitely need to go to one of these.
	There's no regretting going to a No Agenda Meetup.
	Prove me wrong!
	Noagendameetups.com.
	And now, once again!
	Good news, everybody!
	We'd like to end our show particularly where we had creepy moms.
	What about the ISOs?
	You know what?
	I'm completely off track here.
	You're right.
	Yes.
	Okay, but you know, instead of saying, what about the isos?
	You could have said, hey, you forgot the isos.
	Hey, you forgot the isos.
	Oh, thanks.
	Well, here's my iso.
	Pull my lever.
	That's my only iso.
	That's probably why.
	Okay, what do you have iso-wise, John?
	Sounds like you got some really good ones.
	I have three.
	Okay.
	Dynamite.
	Dynamite!
	That's pretty good, that's pretty good.
	You've heard that one before.
	Yeah, yeah, I like it.
	Okay, how about hashtag?
	Hashtag no agenda.
	Nah, nah, it's too light.
	Okay, the thank you.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
	No, I think dynamite.
	Dynamite?
	Dynamite is the one that wins.
	Really?
	Yes, I like dynamite.
	You don't like dynamite?
	No, I mean, I didn't dislike it, but I thought you'd pick the thank you one.
	No!
	I have a betting pool on what you pick.
	For money?
	I lost.
	Who is in the pool?
	Who are these nut jobs?
	They don't want their names revealed.
	Is it the Lib Joes?
	The Lib Joes are listening again?
	Yeah, Lib Joes.
	Those guys have stopped talking to me.
	Alright, good news!
	Good news.
	Here we go.
	I'm sorry I jumped the gun on you.
	It's just ever since that glitch, I was confused.
	Another?
	Yes, the glitch.
	The glitch.
	Which makes me wonder if you're AI.
	Uh, this is another, not the same, but a different, this is a dog rescue story from your neck of the woods.
	Texas?
	Texas?
	Texas!
	Puppy love this morning on Good Morning El Paso.
	We introduce you to a mother and her litter of pups that would not have lived for us to tell this story if it weren't for a good Samaritan.
	I got a call from a young lady that works for Border Patrol out there and said that people are always dumping animals out there and this is the second mama that they took pictures of and sent to me and asked if I could help because she was about ready to pop.
	I mean she was so huge from having so many puppies.
	Nine puppies to be exact and they are cuties but mama was in such bad shape from being neglected and going without food and water for so long she had complications giving birth.
	She had to have a C-section.
	So now, to help her recover and to give her babies the best chance at a healthy start, those babies are now bottle-fed every few hours.
	This is truly a happy ending because she definitely wouldn't have made it out there in the desert, in the dirt, and the puppies wouldn't have made it either.
	You know, there's a lot of coyotes and things going on, so they would have probably, she might have been able to save one or two.
	She's going to go to a forever home and to know that her babies are well taken care of.
	I think we did good.
	I think they all did good.
	Thanks to Animal Rescue League, these little guys can now be adopted.
	And by the way, there's another mama dog she mentioned at the beginning of that piece who was saved with a very similar story.
	So double the puppies if you're looking to adopt a furry family member of your own.
	Because a lot of people do want a puppy and there's nothing wrong with wanting a puppy and now there are plenty to choose from.
	And who can say no to those adorable faces, right?
	I will say, I have four dogs at home trying to rescue two cats.
	Everyone can just take in another dog.
	No!
	No!
	Not everyone can just take in another dog, but... John, a great good news story.
	I feel very... I thought you'd like it.
	I feel very positive now.
	I got good news.
	I got good news.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah!
	Everybody should feel good after that.
	How could you not?
	It's just good news.
	Nine puppies rescued.
	It's just good.
	It's just all good.
	I'm ready now.
	I'm ready to complete my Sunday with a feeling of good news.
	It really counterbalances the creepy moms.
	I'm vetoing those stories.
	Can't do that anymore.
	We have some end of show mixes.
	We've got the Clipperstodian Neil Jones himself kicking it off, followed by Professor Jay Jones from China, and Phantomville, all brand new, all fresh, all the time.
	And after this program ends, you will be seamlessly switched over to Behind the Schemes with Boobury and Lavish.
	So just keep listening in your modern podcast app or at trollroom.io.
	And please remember us.
	at noagendadonations.com.
	And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6.
	I would like to say I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're still wishing you a happy Chinese New Year, I'm John C. Devorak.
	We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	Please join us.
	Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
	Till then, adios mofos.
	A hooey hooey and such.
	I love they did what I do.
	They call them dumps. .
	Big, massive dumps.
	We will follow them to the gates of hell.
	Bomb them.
	And bomb them again.
	Bomb them.
	Hillary Clinton made a mistake.
	It's a red carpet event.
	Beautiful, blonde hair, very fashionable clothes.
	Well, she forgot that people hate her guts.
	Who could be more evil than Putin?
	Hillary Clinton, how dare you speak about human rights while Palestinians are being murdered?
	People are suffering.
	People are dying.
	You are a war criminal!
	How dare you?
	There's a genocide committed!
	You may have shamed of yourself!
	It is not shameful to do little.
	It is shameful to do nothing.
	Maybe Clinton.
	Killer Clinton.
	They should do something.
	They need to work on that.
	More of this, please.
	How does Libya fit into the scheme of things based on what she just said?
	What difference at this point does it make?
	This thing looks so rigged.
	And I'm all for this.
	Keep yelling at all of them.
	How dare you continue to look away?
	She's great.
	She's recognizable.
	Free Palestine!
	You have blood on your hands!
	Boom!
	Yell at all of them.
	All the elites of the world, including those who are in the war business.
	Get bent, Curry.
	There you go.
	Get bent, Curry.
	Get bent, Curry.
	How dare you?
	You are a war criminal!
	More of this, please.
	Boom!
	You're a war criminal!
	The Cinema for Peace Foundation.
	Hillary Clinton, how dare you speak about human rights while Palestinians are being murdered?
	There it is!
	You're a war criminal!
	And a warning from Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk.
	It has nothing to do with cars.
	Ted Musk warned about artificial intelligence, which he has called more dangerous than nuclear weapons.
	Computer.
	Computer.
	Working.
	Working.
	Computer.
	Computer.
	Working.
	Working.
	Computer, computer.
	You know those stories where Working.
	There's the guy with the pentagram in the holy water and he's like Working, working.
	Yeah, he's sure he can control a demon.
	My function is a problem or biological human being.
	Computer.
	Working, working.
	There's all things in the crap.
	Working!
	Working!
	A machine like that, who would build it?
	Computer!
	Computer!
	An alien race, probably from another galaxy.
	Working!
	But why?
	Computer!
	You ever hear of a doomsday machine?
	Working!
	Are you concerned that our new woke A.I.
	overworlds are rewriting history and may even wind up rewriting reality?
	They're lapping up this A.I.
	bullcrap when your enemy is big tech.
	We're sorry.
	They're amazing companies.
	They account for over half of the gains in the stock market.
	So we're all getting rich off these companies.
	These folks at Google and other of the technology companies are kind of distorting that history.
	They see themselves as trying to shape society.
	Gotta get rid of this.
	I don't like this.

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