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	We love you.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	Sunday, June 18, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1565.
	This is no agenda.
	Loving the hotel smackdown and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we had a 10-car sapper.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Wow, an early morning Zephyr report!
	Who would have expected that?
	That's fantastic!
	That's a great way to kick off a show.
	Yeah, it was an eight car Zephyr with two private cars on the back.
	Wow.
	Father's Day special, I guess.
	Father's Day special.
	And the two cars in the back were a, uh, like a sleeper and a observation vista dome car that were so pretty.
	Ugh.
	Cream and chrome.
	Ugh.
	It was like you go, you look at this and compared to the rest of the train, you go, what happened to design in this country?
	Oh my God!
	Woo!
	Listen to that horn!
	I am so happy for you.
	Happy Father's Day.
	Happy Father's Day to you.
	Yeah.
	Did you get Father's Day gifts?
	Did you get tweets, texts, anything?
	Yeah, I got this.
	You actually got tweets?
	Oh, yeah.
	Boy, they know Daddy well, don't they?
	Give the old man this.
	He'll keep busy for hours.
	Then they found this.
	What is that?
	you Turkey call.
	Now, do you blow on that, or is that electronic?
	No, it's a two-handed operation you use.
	You slam it with your fist.
	Oh, cool.
	You know about that.
	I do now, yeah.
	Oh, excellent.
	So, my favorite is this of the chicken thing is this thing, though.
	That little squawk at the end.
	It's cartoony.
	Yeah, it's good.
	Chickens don't do that.
	No.
	They do a little bit like that.
	Okay.
	All right, everybody.
	There you go.
	This is the best podcast in the universe and now you know why.
	Man, something cool happened last night.
	Pray tell.
	Yeah.
	So on, I think it was, was it Friday?
	I think Joe Rogan had JFK Jr.
	on his podcast.
	And for about the first two hours, he just railed on vaccines and went into depth.
	I'd forgotten.
	We've deconstructed most of this.
	But, you know, how they really work and how the schedule is increased and legality of it.
	And of course, he knows about all this because he sued many of these companies.
	It was interesting because Joe started off with a whole like five minute monologue, like a soliloquy about he always thought that, you know, JFK Jr.
	was an anti-vaxxer, a kook, a nutjob, tinfoil hat wearing dude, until he read his book about Anthony Fauci.
	And so this just went on as beautiful on and on and on and on and you know, he says all kinds of stuff like yeah, we should ban Advertisement of pharma on television.
	I mean really stuff that we pretty much would agree with And then Joe never goes on Twitter.
	I think whatever he does, he does Instagram and then whatever he posts on Instagram, it gets reposted on Twitter.
	And Hotep Hotez, you know, our friend up there in North Texas, he starts going off, you know, typical Twitter, like, oh, look at these, look at these two spreading misinformation about vaccines.
	And so Joe pops on the Twitter.
	And says, hey, Peter Hotez, he's been on his show too, Hotept Hotez.
	He says, I will donate $100,000 to the charity of your choice if you come in and debate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	No time limits.
	And all Hotepts will do, and then now people are, you know, there's people throwing $100,000 on top of that and it's like $800,000 now.
	And Hotez is like, well, you know, oh, come on, I'll talk to you, but I can't talk to misinformation guys.
	He won't do it.
	Nobody will.
	Of course not.
	They won't debate McCullough.
	They won't debate Malone.
	No.
	They won't debate anybody.
	This whole group of people, and HOTEP is one of the top of the group.
	The toppers, yeah.
	They will not talk about it.
	They have their spiel, and they don't want to talk about it.
	That's it!
	No!
	No debate!
	Science is in!
	It's like Checkmate!
	It's really fantastic!
	Now, I doubt that the M5M will do anything with this because we don't let anybody know about this, but it's pretty, it's pretty viral right now.
	So, very, very interesting situation.
	I liked it a lot.
	Thought it was very funny.
	And I'll say this about that.
	RFK, you know, RFK saying, I think we should ban pharma advertising.
	Actually, I have the clip.
	Listen to the clip, and then I'll say this about that.
	You know, ambitions have completely subsumed the regulatory function of those agencies, and that has to end.
	You know, one of the things that we need to do, too, is to get rid of pharmaceutical advertising on television.
	There's only two countries in the world that allow it.
	One is New Zealand, the other is our country.
	Everybody who is knowledgeable is against it.
	And it not only has compromised, you know, has compromised public health.
	We now, we take largely because of that advertising.
	We take three or four times the amount of drugs as Europeans take.
	And drugs are the number three killer in our country.
	Pharmaceutical drugs are the number three killer after cancer and heart attacks.
	They're not making us healthier.
	We spend more on health care.
	4.3 trillion than any country in the world, and we have the worst health impacts.
	We're behind, like, Mongolia, Costa Rica, Cuba, in terms of our health outcomes.
	All of these drugs, the pharmaceutical industry is not making us safer, it's not making us healthier.
	And, you know, we changed the rule in 1997.
	Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor, You couldn't advertise on TV.
	We changed those rules, and FDA allowed the pharmaceutical companies to advertise, and they not only now have a platform from which they can tell everybody, you're sick, you need this, you need that, but also they are able to dictate content on television.
	So they can dictate content on the local news.
	And on YouTube.
	Yeah, of course.
	Not much new here for the No Agenda listener, obviously.
	But as it comes to, you know, we always vote independent.
	We don't vote for any of the parties.
	I mean, I can't even bring myself to do it.
	Too bad he's running as a Democrat.
	Because as a single issue voter, I guess, if I were one of those, It would help so much.
	It relates to everything.
	It relates to trans Maoism.
	It relates to children being morons.
	It relates to education.
	It relates to, probably, to mass murder.
	You know, children going nuts with guns.
	It relates to adults being idiots.
	It relates to so much!
	Just that one move, you said it yourself, would probably Solve some things in America.
	You know, forget all the stuff that all the other candidates say.
	This might actually affect something.
	And I guess somewhere he said he would issue an executive order to do it if he was president.
	I don't know if he can do that.
	I don't know if he can do that.
	Well, he'd be sued immediately.
	Yeah, I mean, that would be freedom of speech, all kinds of First Amendment issues, I'm sure.
	But at least someone's bringing attention to it.
	Which is kind of cool.
	Yeah, besides us.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, but it's finally, finally.
	Well, the media is not going to do it because it's too much money.
	They're getting too much cash.
	Yeah.
	It's just corrupted the whole system.
	That's the real issue.
	Well, and that's another thing that came out this morning.
	Shockwave through TV land!
	This is the Netherlands.
	Now, the Netherlands is interesting because it's a very Western, very liberal country.
	They have an interesting media mix of state-controlled propaganda, but also commercial television.
	And this was the big story this morning, headlines from the media analysts as the ratings came out.
	Everything's flopping!
	For the past three days, the television ratings in the Netherlands have never been lower ever before.
	Less than 13% of the country watched any television at all, and the state Channel 3 had a zero.
	Had zero people watching it yesterday.
	There's something happening here.
	This switch is coming, and it's happening everywhere.
	You know, it's happening in Australia, seeing it now.
	Headline, ABC's quiet revolution behind sackings as viewers switch off TV, tune in to TikTok.
	I'm not saying it's all good what's happening, but at least they're moving away from the mainstream, which is just dribble and poison, and just nothing good.
	And that's probably why, you know, the politicians are so freaked out about, exactly about TikTok and other places.
	And Elon Musk with his freeze peach.
	Because they don't, they don't control the message.
	Their messaging system is breaking.
	It really is.
	Well, still better than any other one source.
	What do you mean?
	I will say, well, there's no, I mean, if you take all the podcasts and you do all his, you know, it's very distributed as opposed to one network TV show that can bring in 30 million people.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's the point.
	That's the change.
	I watched, I was watching OAN.
	Yes.
	And the one woman, the kind of over-made-up pretty girl who's on there.
	That's everyone on that channel.
	Which one is it?
	There's one in particular.
	She had the America's Shaman on for his first interview.
	Oh, did you get any clips?
	No, I just was on this morning.
	I was watching it just before the show.
	Oh.
	The guy is a star!
	Let me guess, he really has a great rap.
	He sounds a little like a surfer guru.
	He's got a terrific rap, a tremendous personality.
	Was he in his gear?
	What did he look like?
	Did he have the hat on, the helmet?
	No, now he's got a bald head and a Taliban beard.
	Jacob Chansley?
	Yeah, Chansley.
	He's got a bald head, he's wearing a suit, and a bald head and a Taliban beard, and he's a charmer.
	Oh, and what was the main message of the interview?
	It's a story, a story about getting thrown in a slammer, the racist black guards that were trying to beat him up every chance they could because he was the supposed white supremacist.
	Wow.
	He just had funny stories to tell, but he was There's one clip I definitely have to go back and get because it was so funny.
	She asked him a bunch of government questions and his response to it was just priceless because it was questions he couldn't answer because there was a gag order on this one line of questioning it seems.
	Couldn't say that either.
	But he did like this triple take And then he just said something and he says, no comment in a very funny way.
	Good.
	Good.
	He's really good.
	He's starting a website, a podcast.
	Get over yourself.
	Perfect.
	But what he needs is a Hollywood agent.
	You see, I disagree.
	This is no longer necessary.
	Rogan will probably pick him up.
	Truly, podcasts are the last bastion of freeze peach.
	And people are selecting their own little, you know, whatever their choice is.
	I understand your position.
	You can say it over and over again.
	But if he had an agent, he would really blossom.
	I disagree, and the reason... I know you do!
	I'm just telling you what I think.
	I know, but I'm trying to lead into a clip, but you keep interrupting me when I say I disagree.
	You're not doing it right.
	How should I do that to signal to you that I have a clip?
	Oh, I don't know.
	If it begins with a disagreement that creates an argument, it's gonna be tough.
	Let's try it again.
	Oh, I agree with your position from your standpoint, but let me play a clip!
	Spotify is moving on from Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan.
	The streaming service is not renewing their podcast.
	Both sides say they've mutually agreed to part ways, ending their estimated $25 million deal.
	The podcast ran for only 12 episodes beginning last summer.
	The whole Spotify thing is falling apart.
	They invested a billion dollars.
	They've now fired almost everybody they acquihired.
	They're getting rid of every single big contract.
	All, you know, the Obamas are gone.
	Everyone's gone.
	The only one left is Joe.
	And I don't know what he... Joe probably had a smart deal.
	The whole thing didn't work.
	The influencers don't work.
	The celebrities don't work.
	No one cares anymore.
	You're arguing with me.
	You're saying podcasts is the answer and that's a podcasting operation that went under.
	No!
	Those were exclusives.
	It was not a podcasting operation.
	They're exclusive.
	You couldn't get them anywhere you get your podcasts, you see.
	You couldn't get the Obamas on any podcast app.
	You couldn't get Meghan Markle.
	You had to go to Spotify.
	That's the point.
	The Hollywood system broke.
	No one cares!
	No one cares.
	They care about us.
	I think kind of.
	A little bit.
	Some people.
	A few.
	Well, saying that no one cares... They're not watching.
	They're not interested.
	How about that?
	Here's what I think.
	It was a crappy model.
	It was stupid.
	It violated the principles of podcasting.
	Yes, it's a Hollywood model.
	You're not going to argue with me on that.
	No, it's a Hollywood model.
	That's my point.
	I don't think it's necessarily a Hollywood model.
	It's a book publishing model.
	It's a publishing model.
	No, no, no!
	You can get your books anywhere.
	You can get books on Amazon at the bookstore.
	But they're only from one publisher.
	No, they had the distribution.
	It's not just the publishing.
	They wanted to constrict the distribution.
	You're not going to argue with the Podfather, seriously, are you now?
	No, there's a flaw in your thinking.
	What's the flaw?
	I don't know.
	OK, accepted.
	There's a flaw and we don't know what it is.
	They followed the Hollywood model.
	They hired Hollywood people to do a Hollywood thing where it's only, oh, we have it all.
	You have to come to us to get it.
	That was the flaw.
	That's the flaw.
	Well, I'm not going to say that's not a huge flaw.
	It's a mess.
	Yes.
	But the bigger question is, are there going to be any Neumann mics available?
	I sure hope so.
	You know what?
	If there's anyone within Spotify, we'd love to pick up a couple of cheap Neumann mics.
	We really would.
	And maybe, you know, I'm sure they've got some other gear.
	What else could we get from them?
	They probably have some nice mixers.
	And chairs.
	I bet you they've got some good chairs.
	Sure, the chairs have got to be comfy.
	Yes, exactly.
	All right.
	Now the other big news, I mean, it just was non-stop, non-stop, finally, the cyber pandemic has arrived!
	Tonight, senior government officials are racing to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent history.
	American targets include multiple federal agencies, including the Department of Energy, plus Johns Hopkins-affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida, Georgia's statewide university system, and the Minnesota Department of Education.
	British Airways was also hit.
	Officials say the hackers are part of a cyber-criminal gang called CLOP, believed to operate from inside Russia.
	They've started releasing some of the data that was stolen as part of their work to extort These companies, we strongly encourage anyone who is a user of this software to of course patch, lock down their systems.
	The cyber criminals are exploiting a software program called MoveIt, which companies and government agencies use to transfer data, including personal information.
	The group steals the data, and in this message, believed to be from the hackers, warns that if a ransom is not paid, after seven days, all your data will start to be published, sometimes on the dark web.
	Cyber expert Brent Callow says foreign adversaries and criminals will be looking to leverage the data.
	Overseas governments will no doubt be very interested in obtaining the information that CLOP obtained through these attacks.
	Okay, couple things here.
	First of all, CLOP.
	There's something missing from the reporting here.
	The message is clear.
	So we got Klopp.
	And then there's this program called Move It.
	Now, there's something missing from the reporting here.
	Dispain?
	Really?
	This move-it stuff, from what it looks like to me, you upload your files, they're encrypted, 256, hash, shashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashashash
	But then, how do they know that these, you know, it's not your typical ransomware.
	It's not, they haven't locked up computers.
	It kind of, you know, the reporting borderlines on that.
	But they say, no, you know, if you don't pay us money, no mention of how much or how you're supposed to pay it.
	Usually they throw in Bitcoin.
	Yeah, that has been Bitcoin mentioned.
	Missing from the reporting.
	The reporting is terrible.
	And that's a heritage.
	But, you know, so did they show somebody something?
	Because they, oh, if you don't pay us, we're going to start leaking your information, maybe even on the dark web.
	So what exactly, how do they know this?
	I mean, this is not an intrusion into networks.
	This is a service.
	It's not, as far as I could tell, it is not a piece of software.
	It is, it is a service that people use.
	And of course, these guys got a government, you know, approval.
	So all governments, oh, that sounds like a good idea.
	Let's put it all on encrypted on AWS or whatever they're using.
	Okay, yeah.
	You know, and everyone's jumping on board now!
	From Fox 8, this is a special report.
	Good morning, I'm Liz Reyes.
	We interrupt your programming to bring you this breaking news from Homeland Security officials in Baton Rouge after a massive data breach impacting all Louisianians, especially those with Louisiana licenses.
	Let's listen in.
	Let's listen in.
	Breaking news!
	Governmental entities and organizations around the world Move-It is a third-party data transfer service that is widely used to send large files, and it is at the center of this very sophisticated breach.
	Very sophisticated!
	You've probably already heard other national news reports about major businesses and organizations dealing with this as well.
	Yesterday morning, Governor Edwards held a unified command group meeting in which he was briefed On the newly discovered scale of this attack involving Office of Motor Vehicle data.
	Oh no!
	He then felt it was imperative that we get this information out to the public immediately so that folks could take proactive measures.
	Like what?
	To be clear, we believe that all Louisianians with a state-issued driver's license His ID or car registration likely had data compromised.
	Now, what does that mean?
	I mean, this seems asinine.
	I don't even think this is not even related.
	I think they're all, oh, you know, let's just throw this in there.
	I'd love to know if any of our producers out there have used Moveit and what it does exactly, but this whole thing stinks!
	It's not going to be much different than Dropbox.
	I wouldn't think so, but this whole thing stinks.
	This doesn't make any sense.
	And the Department of Energy, well what did they do with the department?
	The Department of Energy doesn't run your electricity.
	They don't, they don't, they don't do that.
	So, okay, so what, did they hack just a government website?
	Did they get some important documents from Granholm?
	I can tell you what they say.
	More, more hydrogen!
	You know, it's not that hard to imagine what, what she's talking about.
	Well, there's also this, the thing about the DMV, what DMV records, what difference does it make?
	Exactly!
	Take, take, take action!
	I think, you know.
	This is, and by the way, this was an evolutionary reporting.
	Yes, thank you.
	Because when it first came out, it was, well, blah, blah, there's nothing to it, and it's not Russia.
	We checked on that, it's not Russia.
	Then all of a sudden it became Klop.
	It's Klop.
	Russia, but not Russia.
	But now it's not the Russian government, so we know it's not the Russian government.
	It's Klop!
	It's Klop!
	Klop.
	Klop.
	I think, and the real thing that stands out like a sore thumb to me is Johns Hopkins.
	Yes.
	Spook!
	Out of the blue, is this, this, this, this John Hopkins?
	What other universities were hacked?
	This is like one of those stories you see where 30 people are killed so they can execute one guy and he gets lost in the shuffle.
	Hmm.
	I think John Hopkins was a target for some reason.
	And the rest of it is all smoke screen, just so we don't start noticing Johns Hopkins.
	I like it.
	Makes a lot of sense.
	And what did they get from Johns Hopkins?
	That's what we need to know.
	Well, we're not... They probably have... If it's kind of a front for the intelligence groups, any one of them, there's got to be information that has come to light.
	Yeah.
	Well, the way it's played in the mainstream, U.S.
	Department of Energy got ransom requests.
	Oh, I have a ransom request for you?
	Excuse me.
	Oh, thank you.
	It's just a request.
	I can't pay this, sorry.
	Okay, well, it was only a request.
	Don't take it seriously.
	From the Russia-linked extortion group.
	Now it's an extortion group.
	CLOP.
	It's an extortion group.
	At both its nuclear waste facility and scientific education facility.
	They were recently hit in a global hacking campaign.
	See, these are all words that are all... Data was compromised at the two DOE entities after hackers breached their systems through a security... So this is different.
	They breached their systems.
	Are they in the network?
	After they breach their systems through a security flaw in the file transfer tool, move it to transfer.
	The software is widely used by organizations around the world to share sensitive data.
	Have you used it?
	No.
	Never even heard of it.
	We use SFTP.
	It's widely used!
	Well, I'm not an organization.
	I'm just a dude.
	Do we know that it's widely used?
	I've never heard of it either.
	From the U.S.
	Government Department, To the UK's telecom regulator and energy giant Shell.
	See, energy, energy.
	A range of victims has emerged since Burlington, Massachusetts-based Progress Software found the security flaw in its Moveit transfer product last month.
	Last month.
	Last month.
	But now, the wide-ranging impact of it shows how even the most security-minded federal agencies are struggling to defend against ransomware attacks.
	Ransomware gangs typically scour for such widely used tools.
	This is conflating two stories.
	Mm-hmm.
	Ransomware, we know how that works.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, they lock stuff up.
	And it doesn't work through MOVIT.
	Yeah.
	Here's a little more interesting.
	Here we go.
	The ransom requests.
	A ransom, isn't a ransom... Ransom requests is not the same as ransomware.
	No, but it's also, it would be a ransom demand, not a request.
	Yeah, ransom, exactly.
	I agree.
	They demanded ransom.
	Oh, they requested ransom.
	Why are they using the word request?
	The ransom request to the Department of Energy came in emails to each facility, said the spokesperson, without revealing how much money was demanded.
	Well, what kind of request is that?
	What?
	What?
	They came in individually, not as kind of a blind carbon copy.
	Oh, so it was targeted email.
	The two entities that received them did not engage with Klopp, and there was no indication the ransom requests were withdrawn.
	Now they go straight into the Department of Energy, which manages U.S.
	nuclear weapons and nuclear waste sites related to the military.
	Yeah, they do a lot more than that, but okay.
	They talk about battery cars.
	Notified Congress of the breach and is participating in investigations with law enforcement and the CISA.
	CISA.
	Oh, Klopp did not respond to requests for comment, but in a post on its website.
	Wait a minute!
	Klopp has a website?
	Do they have a spokesperson?
	Well, they didn't respond to requests for comments.
	They must have a PR at klopp.org, I guess.
	In a post on its website, it said, all caps, WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOVERNMENT DATA!
	Gotta do it Russian boys.
	And suggested that should the hackers inadvertently have picked up such data in their mass theft, we still do the polite thing and delete all!
	But they're polite!
	Why is this?
	What kind of hackers are these?
	Oh, wow.
	This is a scam!
	Recorded future analyst Alan Liska said Klopp was likely making a big deal out of how they purportedly deleted government data in an attempt to protect themselves from retaliation from Washington and other governments.
	This is horse crap.
	Like massive loads of it too.
	Yeah.
	I don't.
	The whole thing with requests.
	But what's the point?
	Again, Johns Hopkins shows up as the big red flag on this.
	Let's just listen one more time to which school it was.
	Tonight, senior government officials are racing to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent history.
	American targets include multiple federal agencies, including the Department of Energy.
	Plus, Johns Hopkins affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida.
	Affiliated hospitals?
	Affiliated hospitals in Maryland, so... Georgia's statewide university system.
	Maryland and Florida.
	Hmm.
	Maryland... I don't... That's interesting.
	Well...
	I mean, there's a lot more.
	They don't mention any of the other ones there.
	Here we go.
	Johns Hopkins.
	What we do.
	It's a children's hospital, I think, in St.
	St. Petersburg, Florida.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	The whole thing is weird.
	And I was hoping it would fit into Klaus, you know.
	We all know, but still, pay insufficient attention to the frightening scenario of a comprehensive cyber attack which would bring to a complete halt To the power supply, transportation, hospital services, our society as a whole.
	A whole?
	The COVID-19 crisis would be seen in this respect as a small disturbance in comparison.
	To a major cyber attack.
	To use the COVID-19 crisis as a timely opportunity to reflect on the lessons cybersecurity community can draw and improve our preparedness for a potential cyber pandemic.
	It could just be a beginning of a setup, create a little bit of tension, like, oh, everywhere, oh, they got my driver's license, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, Does the X-Files for CNN Podcast Network.
	And they were talking about a digital ID, I think, in a backhanded way.
	This is disruptive for our economy.
	It goes to the issues we were talking about before.
	In terms of misinformation, disinformation, deepfakes.
	I've seen a few of you.
	I've told people, because I was the first digital president, when I left office, I was probably the most recorded, filmed, photographed human in history.
	Wait a minute.
	Is that a moniker he was given the first digital president?
	Not that I recall.
	I think it was Bill Clinton who helped get the Internet set up.
	No, Bill Clinton was the first black president.
	Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're right.
	I've seen a few of you.
	Yeah, as I've told people, because I was the first digital president, when I left office I was probably the most recorded, filmed, photographed human in history, which is kind of a weird thing.
	Yes.
	Human!
	Oh, human in history!
	A human.
	Really?
	Well, you don't sweat, Barack.
	I don't know if you're human.
	In history, which is kind of a weird thing.
	Yes.
	But just the odds are that I was.
	As a consequence... The odds are that I was.
	This is aggrandizement on quite a scale.
	The odds are that I was.
	Don't argue with me, Axe.
	Just handle me.
	Thing.
	Yes.
	But just the odds are that I was.
	As a consequence, there's a lot of raw material there, so usually all the deepfakes start with, like, some version of Obama doing something, dancing.
	Just saying, you know, dirty limericks.
	Some version of Obama?
	Is that what he said?
	Yeah.
	He's speaking of himself in the third person?
	Yes, of course.
	You know, Obama.
	Some version of Obama.
	Yeah.
	By the way, those weren't deep fakes.
	People just edited your audio book in a different order.
	We remember the Obama deep fakes.
	No, just all the swear words, all the cuss words you put in your audio book, people put them together.
	It was hilarious.
	Not a deepfake, not a deepfake.
	He had plenty of those.
	Not a deepfake.
	No, he's misusing the term.
	Yes.
	Usually all the deepfakes start with like some version of Obama doing something, dancing, saying, you know, dirty limericks or whatever it is, right?
	There was plenty.
	Of you dancing, Mr. President.
	That technology is here now.
	That technology is here now!
	So most immediately, we're going to have all the problems we had with misinformation before.
	Ah, here we go.
	This next election cycle will be worse.
	Oh, yeah.
	OK, so now we need to do something about it.
	Problem?
	Reaction?
	And the need for us, for the general public, I think, to be more discriminating.
	Consumers of news and information.
	The need for us to, over time, develop technologies to create watermarks or digital fingerprints so we know what is true and what is not true.
	Digital fingerprints.
	That sounds like a digital ID to me.
	No.
	He doesn't know what he's talking about.
	Well, no he doesn't, but he's read in.
	The thing is, of course, I've got so much on Biden that, you know, I have tons of clips.
	Let's do some Biden AI.
	Well, I do have a Biden.
	You have a Biden AI?
	No, you said you got clips.
	I mean, Biden.
	I got clips, but I also have one Biden AI.
	No, I have no Biden AI.
	Oh, OK.
	Well, I have this.
	I figured that, you know, he's bringing up he's this is a I think it's a salvo.
	So he sends it out.
	You know, we're going to have a lot of fake stuff going on.
	But no, the Biden stuff is all real.
	It's real.
	There is a fake one that they're trying to push out, which it's kind of funny.
	It's Biden and Trump debating.
	This is the Trump Biden.
	Cock.
	Trump Biden clip.
	Cock fake.
	Cock is so massive.
	I mean it is possibly the biggest cock I have ever seen.
	It is so big.
	Respond very quickly and then I'll get to my question.
	Why did he's been saying his cock is massive for four years?
	Show us.
	Just show us.
	Stop playing around.
	I haven't seen that!
	It's lewd, it's lewd, therefore it's just a borderline, but man.
	You got me with that one.
	I had not heard that one.
	I thought you were familiar with it.
	No, I'm not familiar with the cockfight.
	It's massive.
	Yeah, you should stop talking about it, show it already.
	This is America.
	This is what we do with technology.
	We're not going to try and fake you.
	We're going to make you laugh.
	And no one's falling for it.
	Oh, oh man.
	I think they're really talking about that.
	What do you think?
	I have one 12-second Biden AI clip, because this obviously couldn't be an actual President of the United States talking here about pistols and pistol braces.
	You made it harder for people to buy stabilized braces.
	Put a pistol on a brace, it turns into a gun.
	Makes it more, you can have a higher caliber weapon, a higher caliber bullet coming out of that gun.
	Okay, sorry for the one channel.
	Well, let's do some real Biden clips then.
	But that was a real clip!
	Oh, that was him actually?
	Yeah!
	What an idiot!
	He says if you put a brace on a pistol, it turns into... You get more caliber coming out of the gun!
	It turns into a real gun, and then you get more caliber, higher, higher caliber bullet coming out of it!
	Alright, well I've got a bunch of clips here.
	Here we go.
	I don't do these as much as I used to.
	No, we've been missing them, but seeing as the President is out there on the campaign trail, we might as well... He's bumbling and fumbling his way through.
	Okay, let's start with 8%.
	But you have.
	We have a thousand billionaires in America.
	You know the average tax rate they pay?
	Eight.
	E-I-G-H percent.
	Eight percent.
	Eight.
	Eight.
	Eight percent.
	Eight.
	A thousand billionaires.
	Eight.
	E-I-G-H.
	E-I-G-H.
	Wow.
	That's almost respectable.
	So here we go with 54 states.
	And by the way, if they do, that means, not a joke, everybody, that's why we were defeated in 2018 when they tried to do it.
	We went to 54 states.
	Now, OK, so we've been through this with Obama.
	And Obama also had the, you know, we have 58 states, but that's when they somehow in Washington, D.C., They take the territories into account, and then these, and it's so normal for them, they just, for some reason, they all wind up making this mistake.
	Yeah, it's weird.
	I think it was 58 with Obama, let me see.
	But that was, was it 58 or 54?
	Let me see, Obama, was it 54?
	I can't find anything on it.
	Alright, let's go on.
	Here's O-Biden.
	I said O-Biden!
	You said O-Biden!
	We're back in the groove!
	Yeah, baby!
	Uh, Indian Ocean.
	This is classic.
	We're going to win and we're going to help.
	We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean.
	We have plans to build in Angola, one of the largest solar plants in the world.
	I can go on, but I'm not.
	I'm going off script.
	I'm going to get in trouble.
	So it's going under the Indian Ocean.
	This is dynamite.
	From the Pacific.
	How does this work?
	Okay.
	Well, we understand what he meant, so give him a break.
	Yeah, he's old.
	Give him a break.
	This is the lost clip that I want everyone out there who likes to do songs, you know, put together and to show mixes.
	I don't know why we, this is not new.
	I don't know why we never caught it before.
	I don't remember it.
	I sure would because it reminds me of the old Obama.
	No, no, no.
	This is Biden doing it.
	As I said last week, we remain in the battle for the soul of America, by the way.
	All right, God love you.
	Let him go.
	Let him go.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't.
	Let him go.
	Look, everybody's entitled to be an idiot.
	No, no, everybody's not.
	Oh, man!
	Let me hear that.
	That's a great sequence.
	Oops, sorry.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Don't.
	Let him go.
	I love this part.
	That's perfect.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Don't.
	Let him go.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no.
	Come on.
	No, no, no.
	Come on.
	Where was I?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Let it go.
	Hey, listen, I love you.
	That kind of works.
	Oh.
	Love it.
	Oh, man.
	Good one.
	Good one.
	That is a gem.
	That's beauty.
	I mean, he got stuck.
	It's literally, he got stuck.
	He got stuck.
	Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.
	You know, like a digital.
	It was digital glitch.
	It was glitching.
	Biden the digital man.
	Biden glitch.
	There you go.
	Biden glitch.
	This one here is not as good, but he does say instead of transgender, it says transister Americans.
	No, no, no, no.
	That's impossible.
	He did not say transister Americans.
	Tell me that's not true.
	As commander in chief, I was proud to have ended the ban on transister Americans.
	No, he says transjester.
	It's Transistor, and then he corrects himself.
	Well, hold on.
	As Commander-in-Chief, I was proud to have ended the ban on transgester Americans, transgender Americans serving in the United States.
	That's the same one we played.
	As Commander-in-Chief, I was proud to have ended the ban on transgester Americans.
	It's Transjester, not Transistor.
	No, no, I'm hearing Transjester.
	Okay, okay.
	No, Transjester is a hit.
	Okay, let's go to the last, this is the last of the Biden ones, and I do have a couple of Trudeau's that I'd like to interject.
	Trudeau does this too!
	Well, yeah, it's the same programming.
	So, let's go with, this is the stump speech, which is just a mess.
	You know what I get when we're talking about the fentanyl at the border and all that?
	I speak to the President of Mexico, will you stop sending guns to us?
	We are sending dangerous weapons, particularly assault rifles, to Mexico.
	To Mexico.
	They're asking us, please stop it.
	Cut it off at the border.
	But in God's name, we could be coming if we don't do this.
	Now, as some of you know, I usually come down and say hi to all of you.
	They tell me there's a storm.
	Let me just stop here for a second.
	But the government has been sending weapons to Mexico.
	It was called Fast and Furious, was it not?
	Yeah, hello!
	That's exactly what we do.
	And so now, is Biden not read in on this?
	I don't think Biden's been read in on it.
	I guess it didn't stop.
	Wow, alright.
	Why would it?
	In God's name, we could be coming if we don't do this.
	Now, as some of you know, I'd usually come down and say hi to all of you.
	They'd tell me there's a storm coming in.
	Is that right?
	Is that still the deal?
	That's the truth, now don't make a lie.
	As that scene in the John Wayne movie, don't make me a dog-faced lion pony soldier.
	Alright?
	God saves the Queen, man.
	Let's listen to his OG of that.
	Number one.
	I was a Democratic caucus.
	Edmundo Caucus.
	No, you haven't.
	You're a lying dog-faced pony soldier.
	That's the line.
	Lying dog-faced pony soldier.
	He can't even get that out anymore.
	Let's listen to it again.
	Is that right?
	Is that still the deal?
	That's the truth.
	Now don't make a lie.
	As that scene in the John Wayne movie.
	Don't make me a dog-faced lying pony soldier.
	No, he got it out.
	He did it.
	He did it.
	Alright.
	God save the Queen, man.
	What was that about?
	That's the big mystery.
	God save the Queen.
	What the hell was that about?
	Alright, two more and then we're done.
	I guess everyone just ignores that in the mainstream, like, didn't really happen.
	No, none of this ever happened.
	You have to listen to the No Agenda Show to get a little few of these once in a while.
	Yeah, to have a chuckle.
	God save the Queen.
	Yes, God save the Queen.
	Here's Trudeau on masks.
	Okay.
	If people want to wear a mask, that is okay because it prevents you from breathing or speaking moistly on them.
	He said moistly.
	A big millennial no-no.
	Yeah, he said moistly.
	I can't believe he said that.
	Alright, yes.
	Good, good.
	Here's him talking about water bottles.
	Water bottles out of, uh, water out of, uh, when we have water bottles, uh, out of, uh, plastic, uh, sorry, away from plastic towards, uh, paper, um, like, drink box water bottle.
	Oh, man.
	It's just all so sad.
	It's all so sad.
	All these people.
	They're just sad.
	Just sad.
	I do, I do have another Biden.
	This was, I love this one.
	You didn't get this one.
	We've mobilized the world's leading emitters to help poor countries deal with the impacts of climate change.
	They called it the G7, the Build Back Biden, Build Back Better, and we realized that got confusing.
	So now we don't call it that.
	What we call it is, here's the bottom line, look, we're the ones that caused the problem.
	The United States.
	We cleared all our land.
	We did all the things to make things more easy for us to make money.
	I don't know what he's saying, but I just love it.
	What the hell is he saying?
	I'd like to build back Biden.
	Deal with impacts of climate change.
	What do we call it?
	They called it the G7.
	The build back Biden, build back better.
	For a better life, beyond your freedom, build back Biden!
	For someone else, What a narcissist.
	He can only think of himself.
	Build back Biden.
	Well, this brings us to, unless you have more... No, that's the end of my Biden bit.
	A little bit of AI news for you, since it's hot and everything now is AI.
	Everything is AI.
	I mean, I'm using a program to play jingles.
	AI, man.
	It's all AI.
	Photoshop?
	AI.
	Yeah, it's AI.
	Oh, I used Microsoft Word.
	AI.
	It's all AI.
	There are new rules at the Grammys with the brave new world of artificial intelligence in mind.
	The Recording Academy says only human creators are eligible for an award.
	However, not all AI is banned.
	A human just has to contribute content that is, quote, meaningful and relevant.
	However, that's measured.
	I mean, it's just blather now.
	Just blather.
	I mean, everything I hear in music, everything you hear in music, by definition, has run through algorithms, processing algorithms.
	Yeah, if you want to call it all AI, samplers, I mean, this is, it's so not new, but... It is old.
	It's old news, but okay, it gives ABC a reason to do this one.
	An eye-opening survey about artificial intelligence.
	Also a little scary.
	Some of the world's top CEOs gathered at a summit and a survey found 42% of them believe that artificial intelligence could destroy humanity in the next five to ten years.
	Some of those same executives are approving job cuts directly related to using AI.
	What could possibly go wrong, Andrew?
	I guess we'll have to wait and see.
	I wish they would say that about climate change.
	Oh, five to ten years, we're all going to die.
	Well, I guess we don't have to worry about climate change.
	AI is going to eat the world.
	And so we talked on the last show about the European Union and that they are putting together rules, rules against AI.
	And what they're really talking about is facial recognition, which I guess if you want to call that AI, I call it AI.
	Claire Daly, luckily she stands up and she says, yeah, it's unbelievable.
	You've moved into my beat.
	The real socialists, we love her.
	Oh, did you have this clip?
	No.
	Yeah.
	Claire Danley gets up and she talks about facial recognition and she drops a little bomb in there about what's really happening.
	It's exactly what we said would be happening.
	AI is being sold to us as the latest in a series of groundbreaking technological leaps.
	It'll make our lives easier.
	It'll make the world a better place.
	Well, don't believe the hype.
	Like so much before it, AI will be used for surveillance and control.
	It won't give us a four-day working week or longer summer holidays.
	It won't solve the climate crisis or redistribute wealth.
	It won't make public services better or policing more effective.
	It'll be just more of the same but faster and probably much worse.
	That judicial systems around the world are exploring using AI in judicial decision-making should scare the hell out of us.
	That Ukraine has been held up as a living lab for AI warfare is frightening.
	We should be approaching this subject cautiously.
	Like every new technology, instead we're far too quick to follow industry.
	Governments across Europe are chomping at the bit to use facial recognition.
	There it is.
	There it is.
	Bill's Rights.
	The Irish government of MEPs who are in that coming in here saying they disagree with it, but they're moving legislation before a possible EU ban.
	The EPP should be ashamed of themselves for reneging on the hard hours of negotiation at committee.
	There it is.
	There it is.
	So while they're working on a ban, they're moving in legislation to use it.
	Yeah.
	So Surprise, surprise.
	You can use it everywhere.
	I might as well mention this, because it's been emailed to me so much, I'm surprised.
	No Agenda producers, I mean, they know this stuff, but still, everyone emailed it to me, so I will mention.
	This poor customer, who is all in on Amazon, he has the Ring doorbell, he's got the door locks, he's got the Alexa, he's got all, everything all connected to Amazon.
	Particularly the smart one is the ring doorbell, which is a spy device, and the locks.
	And I guess you can program your ring doorbell with something funny.
	You can have it say funny stuff like, hey, old man, leave it there.
	You know, maybe a Fred Sanford type voice.
	You can, you know, whatever.
	If someone just rings the doorbell with a package.
	And so a delivery person delivered a package and the doorbell, he thought the doorbell said something that was racist so he reported it back to Amazon HQ and Amazon pulled the plug on the guy's account and of course locked him out of his house, you know, probably wouldn't let him turn on his lights and it's like, ugh!
	It's like, don't do this people!
	I'm always reminded, you know, of all the people that are all, you know, wired to the gills with, you know, you can just drive by, drive by door opener, you know, there's all these kids, you get one of these universal garage door openers, you just drive down the street, open everybody's garage door.
	Being dependent on any of that stuff is just asking for vandals to just have a time of their life.
	I love the troll room correcting me.
	It was a Eufy doorbell, not ring.
	He said, can I help you?
	Okay, you get the point.
	Here's another great piece of AI.
	So someone unleashed AI.
	A journalist, Joseph Martins, and sent me an email.
	I'm sure AI did this for him.
	Joseph Martins.
	My name is Joseph Martins.
	I'm a journalist with the Times News Express, an online newspaper.
	I was conducting research for an article I wrote and came across this link.
	And links to a No Agenda Show episode.
	I wrote an article, Troubleshooting Guide for Common Laptop Issues, on the New Times News Express, and would like to link back to your website as a resource for the article.
	In return, I would highly appreciate if you could add a link back to one of my websites.
	You could get additional publicity, rank higher on Google.
	So I go and take a look.
	Well, he obviously got some information from us.
	It's No Agenda Show episode 797, titled, Laptop Bomb.
	I mean, come on, people!
	This is not smart AI you're using!
	First of all, having run a blog for decades, this is old.
	You've seen these requests, of course.
	Ten years ago, I was getting these notes.
	They'd always come from someone with a phony baloney, and they'd say, we saw the link.
	And it's some link from a blog post that's five years old that no one has ever opened.
	No, it has Google juice somehow.
	I think that's how they sell it.
	They might, you know, they're done with the scraper, I don't know how they do it, but it's a form letter, it's not AI generated by any means, it's a form letter.
	Thanks John, I was just kind of joking around it being AI.
	Okay, well I'm just saying, these guys keep doing this, and it's like, when you respond to them, which I stupidly did once, Did you get anything back?
	You responded to nothing.
	There's nobody home.
	It's like, don't kid yourself.
	They're looking for free links.
	I don't know if this is a trick.
	I don't know.
	Does anyone do this?
	Buy into this bullcrap?
	You didn't?
	No, of course not.
	Does anybody ever?
	I just thought it was interesting that they literally searched for laptop and didn't even see the laptop bomb.
	It seems like it wouldn't go along with troubleshooting your laptop story.
	Send him a note saying you'll do it for 500 bucks.
	That's what I always say.
	I still have diaries.com.
	You do?
	Yeah, about twice a week.
	I'll get an email.
	I'm highly interested in buying this domain name.
	Well, no one's ever, no one's ever taken me up on my price.
	What's the price?
	One Bitcoin.
	Which I think is decent.
	One Bitcoin, that's all I ask.
	Do you know that Art.com... I learned this when I was doing Silicon Spin.
	Because the guy that owned it was there.
	Art.com sold for a million dollars.
	Well, that's nothing.
	That's nothing.
	Well, no, it's true.
	There are...
	During the heyday of domain name sales, before they came up with all these new domain names, they were selling for a million dollars or so, so your price of one bitcoin for diaries.com is reasonable.
	Cuban sold broadcast.com for a billion.
	Basically.
	That's what I mean.
	I mean, I've been offered a lot for curry.com, but no one, I mean, I can't sell that.
	My whole life is, it's my identity, man.
	But everyone has a price.
	I don't think so.
	Ten million bucks cash money?
	You're my man, come on over here, let's party.
	Ten million?
	No one's gonna spend ten million dollars on curry.com.
	I'm just saying, would you do it for ten million cash money?
	Cash money?
	Yeah, I guess I would.
	Okay, there you have it.
	But it would really, I mean, five wouldn't be enough.
	But ten?
	Yeah, I don't, that's where my scruples drop away.
	Yeah, I think I'd have to, yeah.
	Ten is a lot of money.
	I could stop doing this podcast.
	You probably wouldn't.
	That's how dumb I am.
	You'd just be doing the podcast, but you also have ten million dollars in the bank.
	Cash money.
	Yeah, for what it's worth.
	As long as it's still worth ten million.
	Just watch it dwindle away.
	Alright, so just related to Amazon, there's another strike looming.
	This one might get interesting, and of course the story doesn't explain what the problem is, but we all love our UPS drivers, and they are part of the Teamsters, I believe, so this could be a pretty big strike.
	Gil Guzman has been driving for UPS for 23 years.
	Did you vote to authorize the strike?
	I did.
	We're the best in the business.
	It's time to get paid like it.
	He's one of 330,000 employees who want wage increases and more full-time jobs.
	We work hard.
	We work hard for our job.
	We work hard for this company.
	We move this country around.
	UPS is the biggest shipping company in the U.S.
	Around 6% of the nation's gross domestic product passes through its brown vans.
	Nationwide, drivers deliver nearly 19 million packages every single day.
	And a halt in operations would cause major supply chain disruptions.
	The reason we call it a chain is that it's so integrated.
	So any strike, especially the long-lasting strike, could have a devastating effect both for the summer back to schools and upcoming holidays.
	The boom in online shopping during the pandemic is still going strong, resulting in record profits for the company.
	So why not share with your employees?
	Drivers already won a big concession this week when UPS agreed to install air conditioning in its trucks.
	If you could say one thing to the people who are in the negotiating room, what would you want them to know from you?
	Just don't mess it up.
	You got 330,000 strong UPSers that give their blood, sweat and tears for this company and both sides just work it out and make it happen.
	Now a strike is not a guarantee at this point in the negotiation and UPS says it is aligned with its workers on many key issues and it is committed to reaching a deal before this contract expires at the end of July.
	Now, this is a very shallow report.
	I dove into this.
	I like UPS.
	I like the guys and gals who drive UPS.
	This, our air conditioning, come on.
	Their whole system is built around their open truck.
	These guys love it.
	They're not looking for air conditioning.
	But they had a vote on something a year and a half ago, I think.
	And even though 54% voted against accepting the contract at that point, it was two years ago.
	Somehow, some technicality in the rules said, well, you've got to have three quarters of them have to be voting.
	Well, they pulled some fast one on.
	But the real problem is most of these packages that nowadays are Amazon, Amazon packages.
	And all of this is outsourced to UPS and to FedEx when the United States Postal Service, which has its own problems related to technology and how people are not getting paid anymore, especially the rural carriers, many of them listen to no agenda.
	But with the UPS guys and gals, they're outsourcing a lot of these Amazon packages to some dude in a Honda Civic.
	See, they're getting the gig economy workers who get paid much less.
	You can get, I think it's $21 or $22 an hour when you start with UPS, including benefits, you know, retirement package.
	It was like truly the blue collar.
	It's like Doug Herndon, you know, from King of Queens.
	Like this, this was no college needed.
	You can drive.
	It was a good company.
	And now they're just undercutting everybody.
	I think if you're there for four years, you make $40 an hour or $45.
	It's a good job, comparatively speaking.
	But what they're not saying is that UPS is just, you know, giving to Uber drivers, basically.
	That's going to destroy these jobs, I think.
	Well, I haven't looked into it, so I have no idea what's really going on.
	We have Amazon trucks all over the place.
	Those things are a plague.
	You're a plague!
	Get rid of them!
	Bring in the Honda Civics!
	And those are all operated by, and I think UPS may own some of them.
	These are the subcontractors that nobody, you know, you see an Amazon truck and you say, well, it's some guy, independent guy bought a truck.
	No, they tend to be part of a team of trucks and some one company, a small delivery company that has bought 25 trucks.
	Oh, UPS trucks.
	No, Amazon trucks.
	Oh, Amazon.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, I think the future for this upcoming, for the Zoomer generation is you will have a Honda Civic.
	You will live in your Honda Civic because you can't afford to live anywhere else.
	You'll be driving Uber, Uber Eats, UPS.
	You'll have your spatial computing with your Apple Vision Pro.
	That's the future.
	And you're living in your delivery van.
	And you'll be happy!
	You have a cot in the back.
	Exactly!
	I can totally see that.
	It's a dystopian view of things, but yeah, there's some elements of that actually taking place.
	We're moving in that direction.
	It seems clear.
	So Bill Gates went to China.
	Yeah, he did.
	He looked really autistic.
	Well, he is autistic.
	I know, but he looked really autistic now in that chair.
	Well, you'd have to say NTD would do the best job of reporting on this.
	Oops, sorry.
	So let's start with the NTD reports and it goes into an analysis that's interesting.
	I'm looking for Gates.
	Gates in China.
	Microsoft's co-founder Bill Gates met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Friday.
	This comes just one day after the Gates Foundation pledged a 50 million dollar donation to a Chinese medical research institute.
	The meeting took place at Beijing's Diaoyutai State Guesthouse, a diplomatic complex used to house foreign dignitaries.
	Xi called Gates an old friend, saying that he was happy to see the business magnate after three years.
	Gates, on the same token, said he was honored to meet with Xi, adding that there's a lot of important topics to discuss.
	The Chinese Medical Research Institute that's receiving the grant is called GHDDI.
	It was first established in 2016 with the help of the Gates Foundation, China's elite Tsinghua University, and the city of Beijing.
	The $50 million from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is slated to bolster its drug research capacity over the next five years.
	Gates' connection with Beijing goes beyond GHDDI.
	Microsoft has been in China for more than 30 years.
	and has a large research center there.
	Its web portal, Bing, is the only China-accessible foreign search engine.
	As the regime tightens its grip on the nation's digital sector, Bing's search results on a number of sensitive topics have been censored.
	Cybersecurity research group Citizen Lab found that Bing also restricts certain Chinese search results for U.S. users.
	Not to be confused with bingit.io?
	No, not to be confused.
	No censorship there.
	So I didn't know that Bing censors stuff.
	If you use Bing here in the US of A, you're not going to get your Chinese information very accurately.
	Well, that doesn't surprise me.
	I don't trust any search engine.
	Surprises me.
	Part 2.
	Do you use Bing regularly?
	I use DuckDuckGo.
	Worth noting, it's rare for a Chinese leader to meet with a foreign business leader.
	Just recently, Apple CEO Tim Cook and Tesla CEO Elon Musk both visited China.
	But Gates is the only one who got to meet with Xi Jinping.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	Well, didn't Macron?
	Macron got to meet him.
	The point was that business leaders don't get to meet with him.
	I agree.
	Macron's just a crony.
	So, uh... Interesting.
	Tim Cook got stiffed and so did Elon.
	Elon!
	So they brought this guy on who wrote the book Wireless Wars, who's an analyst, and he goes off to discuss So Bill Gates is in China.
	He met with Xi Jinping, who actually called him his first American friend that he met in Beijing.
	You want me to go to clip four or clip three?
	Clip three.
	Clip four has got wireless words.
	I forgot to put on clip three to remind me who to say this guy was.
	All right.
	So here we go.
	So Bill Gates is in China.
	He met with Xi Jinping, who actually called him his first American friend that he met in Beijing.
	What do you make of this close relationship?
	A friend of China is a term that is not actually a complimentary term.
	A friend of China is someone who is on board with China's objectives and goals, is aligned, is in harmony with what China is trying to achieve.
	When it's just the ego stroking and the alignment, which is probably what the case is with Bill Gates, they become a friend of China.
	And it's, as I said, it's not necessarily a good thing because when you look at who you're aligning yourself with, it's really a friend of the CCP is what they mean, not a friend of the Chinese people.
	By the way, DuckDuckGo, they say, we largely source from Bing.
	Yeah, that's probably true.
	But the word largely is the operative.
	Yeah, and the rest is Wikipedia.
	Well, that sounds good.
	I think they get a lot of stuff from Google, even though they don't like to admit it.
	I'm sure they do.
	And TripAdvisor, and MusicMax.
	Okay, so he's friends with CCP.
	Yeah, this is gay.
	So let's go to clip four and you wrap this.
	And on that note, it seems China has been rolling out this red carpet for businesses, especially business leaders.
	We saw Elon Musk there, Jamie Dimon with JPMorgan Chase, and then giving kind of the cold shoulders of the White House.
	What do you make of that kind of message coming out of China?
	It's kind of a funny thing.
	They know, they've always known that the businesses and capitalist societies are there to make profits.
	The government side is just very different.
	It's not pursuing, even though commerce wants strong markets for American suppliers and good markets for vendors to America, there's a very different agenda for the government.
	Right.
	So how are they going to square that with our, I mean, the business of America is business.
	How are they going to square this saber rattling they're doing?
	I have a clip about China.
	Well, play that clip, but to answer your question, I think that they're not going to square it.
	I think the situation is just going to worsen.
	That doesn't sound like a smart idea.
	Well, this is similar to something you played on the last show, I think.
	It's short.
	Overseas tonight, a high-stakes diplomatic mission to China for Secretary of State Antony Blinken.
	Blinken is expected to meet with several Chinese officials over the weekend.
	He's the first Secretary of State to make the trip in five years.
	And President Biden saying today that he's hoping to meet with China's President Xi soon is coming amid escalating tensions between the two countries.
	So, the Biden administration is just going to let all these companies rot.
	Like, nah, we're just gonna do whatever we need to do and screw you with your business.
	Well, this other guy, this Wireless Wars writer, he goes on about the supply chain issues that are going to happen.
	It's hard to just all of a sudden, I mean, theoretically, you should just say, well, screw China, they're useless.
	Let's stop doing business with them.
	But the problem is everything For the last 25 or 30 years, has got China components, or it's made in China, or we're pretending that we did it, but it's actually Chinese and we brought it over.
	One of the best things I've heard recently is listening to Gavin Newsom.
	On Sean Hannity?
	On Hannity.
	Did you get any clips?
	No, I don't have any clips.
	I didn't want to get clips of that.
	Hannity was flat-footed, and Newsom was just lording it over him and making it sound like California is the fastest growing juggernaut of a state, because he had all these stats, you know, statistics lie.
	And so it's like saying the crime rates in San Francisco have gone way down.
	And you can find stats that show these.
	Well, they have, because the businesses are all gone, so there's nothing left to rob.
	So you have this situation and so there's this element of denialism about China and how they pretty much own the United States and so far as the supply chain is concerned and there's nothing we can do about it.
	Nothing because we can't crank all this stuff up.
	I think we've lost the skill sets that the Chinese have been developing in the manufacturing that we don't Right, but then I just don't understand.
	Kids are learning about emotions.
	They're not learning how to be a machinist.
	So you're telling me that all this saber-rattling that we're doing, which is clearly going to hurt American business, is purely to keep the power of the White House?
	I mean, what else, what other reason is there for them to do this?
	I can't think of any.
	Because it just, it makes no sense.
	You know, is it all just ego?
	It has to be.
	Or naivete.
	You have to remember you have a president of the United States that's never worked a day in his life.
	He's never worked in a factory.
	He's never worked on an assembly line.
	He's never worked as a carpenter.
	He wasn't building houses.
	He wasn't in a sheet metal shop.
	He got hairy legs.
	He wasn't even a paperboy from all I can tell.
	He was a lifeguard.
	He has hairy legs.
	Oh yeah.
	He got corn pop.
	He beat up corn pop.
	Well, actually, the ego thing, there may be something to it.
	This is a short clip.
	This is Karine Jean-Claude Van Damme-Pierre being interviewed because, of course, this is how Psaki ended.
	When they start doing interviews and somehow it's kind of sickening for the press.
	What was it called?
	I mean, spokesholes are what we call them, but what is it?
	Press secretary?
	Press secretary.
	To be doing interviews about themselves.
	Isn't that something you just don't do?
	Maybe it's exactly what you think.
	Ego.
	Which is that this is the strategy to get rid of her.
	I mean, you said Saki started doing this at the end.
	Yeah, well, okay.
	This might be the end for her.
	I think she's already violated the Hatch Act.
	We haven't talked about that on the show.
	Explain.
	The Hatch Act says that as a government worker, you cannot take part in partisan politics.
	Right.
	So in other words, if you're working for the State Department, you can't start stamping letters and reelect Joe Biden and addressing envelopes and sending him off where you're working there.
	And she violated the Hatch Act about, I don't know, two or three weeks ago when she went off on mega Republicans, mega, mega, blah, blah, blah, blah, lousy Republicans.
	She went off on it and somebody realized that this was a violation of the Hatch Act.
	She was doing partisan... I have it here.
	I have it here.
	I have a clip.
	He has been clear.
	Democracy is under assault and we cannot pretend otherwise.
	The president will continue to call attention to the threat to democratic integrity.
	And to public safety posed by those who deny the documented truth about election results and those who seek to undermine public faith in our system of government.
	Unfortunately, we have seen mega, MAGA Republican officials who don't believe in the rule of law.
	They refuse to accept the results of free and fair elections.
	So that was it.
	That was the violation of the Hatch Act.
	Ben, that was a clear violation of the Hatch Act.
	And she should have been, and they know it.
	They don't know what to do about it.
	They should find her or fire her.
	Something should be done.
	But again, you know, they don't know what to do because, oh God, what are we going to do?
	You can't fire her.
	She marks, she checks off too many boxes.
	There's no way she'd have to fire a lesbian.
	My God.
	Black lesbian.
	Hello.
	Wait.
	Black lesbian.
	It's so rare.
	Here she is.
	Her 21 second reply about how, well, you'll hear it.
	A year in this role, there's been a couple of things that has made me incredibly proud.
	Many things.
	Many things have made me incredibly proud to be at that podium during this historic moment.
	Again, this is a historic administration.
	I'm a historic figure and I certainly walk in history every day, but this is also a historic-making administration because of this president.
	I'm a historic person!
	That is unbe... That's... Okay, you get a Clip of the Day for that.
	Oh, thank you!
	She is a historic person, everybody!
	Unbelievable.
	What an egotist.
	Okay, so she's this big historic person because she's a black lesbian.
	Okay.
	From Haiti or wherever the hell she's from.
	Yes.
	Someone sent me a... Anyway, by the way, but she's in violation of the hashtag.
	She should be terminated.
	Continue.
	Terminate.
	Someone sent me a passage from 1984.
	The Who Doesn't Know It, the book by George Orwell.
	I think a lot of people know the book, but I don't know how many people actually read it.
	Great book to read.
	I would recommend reading it.
	I would say there's a number of books, and I would say reading that in the Huxley book is another book you must read.
	Yes.
	Which is, what is it called?
	I can't even remember.
	Brave New World.
	Brave New World is a must-read.
	1984 is a must-read.
	Neil Post's Amusing Ourselves to Death would also be another one.
	It's all at noagendabookclub.com, I think, is where we have all of these.
	And I would say, if you don't want to read the 1984 book, the movie is good, too.
	In fact, the movie may be creepier.
	From the book, the protagonist Winston Smith says, They had played a similar trick with the instinct of parenthood.
	The family could not actually be abolished and indeed people were encouraged to be fond of their children in almost the old-fashioned way.
	The children, on the other hand, were systematically turned against their parents and taught to spy on them and report their deviations.
	The family had become, in effect, an extension of the Thought Police.
	Pronouns anyone?
	The antagonist, O'Brien.
	We have cut the links between child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman.
	No one dares trust a wife or child or a friend any longer, but in the future there will be no wives and no friends.
	Children will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a hen.
	The sex instincts will be eradicated.
	Procreation will be an annual formality, like the renewal of a ration card.
	We shall abolish the orgasm!
	Our neurologists are at work on it right now.
	Hello, Elon.
	There will be no loyalty except loyalty towards the party.
	There will be no love except the love of Big Brother.
	There will be no laughter except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy, MAGA.
	There will be no art, no literature, no science.
	When we are omnipotent, we shall have no more need of science.
	There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness.
	Sound familiar?
	Now let's get to work on these children really early and disrupt the relationship between the children and the parents.
	Let's get them with the baby bears on the Cartoon Network.
	This is for young kids.
	We found Jared!
	Poor lad.
	And this be Winnie!
	Hey there!
	I am the great Winifred!
	She's her!
	Actor extraordinaire!
	There are my new crew!
	This is awesome!
	Our crew also has a new addition, T-Box!
	They use they-them pronouns and they pick an exceptionally good quiche.
	We are well met, Box!
	I use they-them pronouns as well!
	This is not okay.
	No, that's good.
	That's another good clip.
	Not okay.
	And so, you know, states are cracking down on it.
	Florida, it's certainly just for young children.
	You know, there's parents should have the right to determine what their children are learning in school.
	This is, of course, not the scholastic opinion.
	And teachers are quitting now.
	This is a report from NBC.
	On the same day that high school English teacher Emily Ramser won an award for being an outstanding Texas educator.
	She stood in front of the Grapevine Collieville School District to tell them why she was among dozens of staff members resigning this year.
	This community has continuously harassed me for the past few years.
	To the point that there were days I didn't even want to be alive anymore, much less be a teacher.
	So I'm going to listen to what I am hearing from this community.
	Which is that y'all don't want people like me, people who might be gay, to teach here.
	School districts across the country are facing a teacher shortage, fueled by burnout and low pay.
	But in Texas, many blame politics.
	Last year, Ramser's district saw a 40% jump in resignations and retirements after new conservative school board members pushed to remove hundreds of books and restrict lessons about race and LGBTQ identities.
	I've taught these kids for years to write and to grow their voices.
	And I'm not going to let my actions say something different.
	Ramser, who identifies as queer, says she was asked to change some of her lessons and to remove classroom artwork and rainbow stickers.
	So what's sad about this type of reporting is the way they bring it is they make it sound like there's hatred against... Yeah, you're sympathetic toward the poor almost gay teacher and non-binary or whatever she is, who's crying on the screens, crying on the set.
	And yeah, that's the way it's presented.
	It's slanted presentation, classic news.
	Yeah.
	It has a perspective.
	They bring in politics, of course, and this is the poison.
	She had to take her stickers down, huh?
	And they banned, and the book banning in there was generalized, so it sounds like they're banning, you know, everything.
	Yes, and so this is political, and it's obvious, you know, it's Texas, and they talk about laws, and what happens is with the under-educated, over-socialized individuals that the entire world is full of, this is not just America, but it's really prevalent here, you get people really believing that they are hated.
	I mean, that's what she said.
	She said, oh, they don't like people like me.
	I don't think that's ever been said.
	It's like, you know, she actually said in that clip, I'm here to teach the children how to write and to grow their voices.
	What?
	No, you're not here to grow their voices.
	I disagree.
	That's not what you're here to do, but okay.
	Grow your voices.
	It just it turns into the second grader.
	It turns into that I don't need it turns into this horrible hatred for each other.
	And I mean, this clip on C-SPAN, Washington Journal, really exemplifies poor news reporting or I shouldn't say poor.
	It's actually excellent news.
	What they're doing in the news, which is in general mainstream news, is run by the Democrat Party of America.
	This is what they want.
	This is how they want to communicate it because it's going to get more of America sympathetic to vote Democrat.
	I guess that's the idea.
	And this is the result of it.
	This is Lorelli, I believe, in Galveston, Texas, Independent.
	Good morning.
	Morning there.
	Morning there.
	I'm just going to say that, you know, I'm going to be straight with you as I can be.
	I'm a lesbian, so it's going to be kind of hard, but wake up, America.
	Major Republicans are falling to Nazis and Muslims.
	They are Nazis.
	They're calling for genocide on trans people like myself.
	Everybody here in the morning who's been calling so far has been nothing but Alright, we'll hold off on the Nazi references.
	too good cars but most of the republicans have been calling for my death they are saying i don't have a right to this and i should die the one car said hit me over there with brown pen because he is a nazi and he does not want me here all right we'll hold off on the nazi references this is steven finally so you know there's someone who is convinced convinced that republicans are nazis all of them and they want this person dead and And there's just no evidence of this.
	There's no evidence of it.
	But it's the way the news brings it.
	Like, battle brewing over trans rights.
	This morning, Columbus is preparing to welcome an estimated 700,000 people to its annual pride parade, while a battle is brewing just blocks away at the Ohio State House over the future of trans rights.
	The Republican-controlled state legislature is considering a number of bills impacting trans youth.
	One called HB 68 would make it illegal for doctors to provide gender-affirming care for trans minors, including prescribing puberty blockers or hormones.
	That one definitely concerns me considering I am actively on the waiting list for getting puberty blockers.
	11-year-old Michael Faria has identified as a boy for years now.
	His parents say puberty blockers are needed to essentially allow him to pause his development for now.
	It makes me uncomfortable that I am having to go through feminine puberty.
	HB 68 is to save adolescents from experimentation.
	Republican State Representative Gary Click is the primary sponsor of this bill.
	He also touts it would ban doctors from performing gender reassignment surgery on a minor, something opponents argue isn't happening in Ohio.
	I've done a lot of research.
	I've talked to a lot of professionals on this.
	Our side gets ignored in this.
	We have the science is on our side.
	But the American Academy of Pediatrics... Now listen to this.
	Listen to their studies and tell me what the common thing is about the science, the studies that they have.
	Published a study finding transgender teens who were given puberty blockers experience superior mental health outcomes compared to those who wanted the medication but didn't receive it.
	And a 2022 study concluded transgender and non-binary youth with access to gender-affirming care had 60% lower odds of moderate or severe depression.
	I certainly wish them the best.
	I love these kids.
	I care about these kids.
	And I'm not trying to ruin people's lives.
	The Farias have accepted that HB 68 may become law.
	They say that's why, for many in the LGBTQ community, this year's Pride celebration has turned into a call to action.
	Although it will hurt the trans community, it is not going to make us detransition or just pop out of existence, I guess.
	They aren't necessarily getting rid of us.
	So there's another child being abused by the media to be a spokesperson.
	And the same message, we're not going to disappear.
	They're not going to get rid of us.
	We're not just going to go away.
	These are all very, very hurtful messages this child has been fed with.
	And all these studies do not go back any further than 2019.
	That's the oldest they have.
	And the science is clearly not settled on the long-term effects.
	And just the words that are being used, battle, you know, right to existence, all this stuff, it's bad!
	We have a number of emails which I'm not going to read.
	I've cleared it with all of them to put them in the show notes.
	I would say specifically read Alexa, who's a trans producer of the No Agenda Show in Chechnya, but who went through the same as now
	Our knight, who was a dame, who detransitioned, and Alex is 40, you know, had to go through almost three years, you know, at older age to be able to do, you know, all the transitioning, the medical transitioning, and agrees that it's insane what is happening right now, and it's clearly happening for political reasons.
	Another one from, I think you read this one, The Boots on the Ground Fleeing California to Save a Child's Life.
	You probably read that one where this mother, single mom, completely went all in the program in Berkeley.
	And her son became, you know, was identifying as a girl.
	And then once they didn't want to accept the vaccine into the life, they were kicked out of the group.
	They were no good anymore.
	So they left, left for New England.
	Interesting coincidence.
	Yes.
	You know, my body, right?
	Left for New England.
	And once, you know, away from the therapists, the boy felt like a boy again.
	And was like, oh, he's playing football.
	Yeah.
	So those are in the show notes, worth looking at just as counter-programming to all of this.
	But something happened that I need to highlight because I give the pivot people a lot of crap, and actually this has nothing to do with Kara Swisher because she is still a horrible person and I'm not going to play her retort to this, but Scott, Professor Galloway, Who I just in the last show called non-man.
	I have to say, I got to give him props.
	He may be the canary in the coal mine.
	He may be waking up.
	It seems like he has his head screwed on right when it comes to trans athletes.
	And I need to play this just to balance out all the crap I give them.
	So I think the tweet was on the line.
	Let me start by saying, first of all, you're not transphobic.
	I thought this was a stupid tweet, but you are not transphobic.
	Go ahead.
	Move on.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Thanks, I think.
	Wow.
	He's calling you transphobic, it's not true.
	So that's exactly what she does, you know.
	He sent out a tweet and he got a lot of crap for it and she'll just, here's my opinion, here's my opinion, here's my opinion, go ahead.
	I gotta play that again so you can hear it in context.
	So, I think the tweet was on the line.
	Let me start by saying, first of all, you're not transphobic.
	I thought this was a stupid tweet, but you are not transphobic.
	Go ahead, move on.
	Thanks, I think.
	People are calling you transphobic, it's not true.
	Oh yeah, that was a go-to, you're transphobic.
	So Austin Killips, a trans woman, won the Belgian waffle race on Saturday.
	131 mile course that runs through the Blue Ridge Mountains.
	And the number two rider came in four and a half minutes behind her.
	And what my tweet was, and I hope I don't get it wrong, because obviously Twitter's not a place for nuance.
	I said that unless Democrats condemn trans women athletes competing at elite, at this elite level...
	It will impair our ability to advocate for transgender rights.
	Now notice here, he says Democrats.
	Just notice that everything with these people is politically motivated.
	He says Democrats.
	What he meant is liberals, but he said Democrats.
	And I think what's happening here, Kara, is that in an attempt to be empathetic, in an attempt to fight for the rights of a group that has been marginalized and has been persecuted, in my view, we have kind of lost our minds and that ideologically the snake is eating its own tail.
	Now, what do I mean by that?
	If you think about male physiology, I mean, what it comes right down to is if you look at most of the studies, to summarize them, men are physically stronger.
	Women are emotionally and mentally stronger.
	Even at a childhood age, girls can survive divorce with much better outcomes than boys.
	But anyways, there's just no comparison.
	And what we have decided to do when we let People who are born as males compete in these races after they have gone through puberty, where you pour testosterone over a bigger, larger muscle mass and greater bone density and skeletal infrastructure.
	I think you end up with misogyny, and that is that the entire world of elite sports All of the camaraderie, all of the money, all of the scholarships, all of the relevance, all of the accolades, the confidence, all of these wonderful things are about to be slowly but surely sequestered to one group, and that is people born with penises.
	Unless we have, at a certain level involving money and scholarships, unless we say, look, you're either born with a vagina Or you're going to play or you're going to be in another separate category.
	But the notion that we are going to start having people with six foot five and the wingspan of Michael Phelps, who, by the way, still have a penis and testicles, compete in the NCAA swim meet.
	This is nothing but us going way too far and in a misguided attempt to say to get our bona fides around progressiveness are hurting women.
	And there needs to be some nuance here.
	Okay, I get that.
	Go ahead.
	Can I?
	Anyways, I just and immediately people start calling you transphobic.
	They did.
	And I'm like, this isn't transphobic.
	You know who I'm advocating for?
	Not only women, but I'm advocating, I believe our ability to advocate for the LGBTQ community and the transgender community is diminished because people, people think, well, I, this hateful transgender legislation is ridiculous and stupid, but the Democrats have lost their fucking minds.
	So yes, now the thing that was, I don't have the clip for you because it's just, I can't.
	Kara Swisher then goes on to say over eight minutes, well the difference is you're a Democrat.
	The Republicans, they really hate trans people.
	They really hate the LGBT community.
	These people are so brainwashed that they don't believe the exact same words.
	You and I could have both said this, we would have said it more succinctly and shorter.
	We could have said that.
	We've said it.
	We probably have said it ten years ago.
	Yes.
	It's like, this makes no sense.
	You just can't say that as someone who likes Freeze Peach or is branded as a Republican or MAGA.
	These people are some of the most bigoted people in the world.
	And they really need to check themselves.
	But good on Professor Scott.
	Prof G, I'm sorry.
	He at least sees that this is not a good idea.
	I thought that was a breakthrough.
	Nah.
	What do you mean, nah?
	It was a breakthrough!
	There's no breakthrough.
	It was a breakthrough, totally.
	He had a moment of clarity.
	Like, wait a minute.
	A moment of clarity is not a breakthrough.
	Okay, good point.
	I mean, the logic is there.
	I mean, I was listening to KRN TV News the other day, and one of the news readers just blurted out, said, well, the transgender athlete, they're saying they have a distinctive advantage over the female athlete.
	Yeah.
	And then she just says, there's no evidence of this.
	Yeah.
	They're so afraid of losing their job.
	That's it.
	They're just afraid.
	I don't think so.
	I disagree with that again.
	I've done this before with you on this particular topic, where it's not fear, it's sincerity.
	They really believe this stuff.
	Yeah.
	Well, okay.
	I think that if, in fact, there was a... Kara's not insincere.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	She's not... She's not afraid, that's for sure.
	No, she's not.
	Well, she got money from her divorce, so... She got no problem there.
	There was, uh... What was that?
	There was some study... It's true.
	You always throw that little nut, that little jibe in there, yeah?
	When you have money, it's like, you know, hey, let me sell curry.com for 10 million dollars.
	Watch me go off the rails.
	Watch this show change.
	This show would be great!
	Insulting everybody.
	I have no clips but lots of stories in the UK.
	Headlines, headlines, headlines.
	Fresh warning of deadly new virus surfaces.
	Virus which kills one person a second likely to be heading to UK, scientists say.
	Urgent warning after outbreak of one of the world's deadliest diseases after man dies in Namibia.
	And my favorite, new deadly virus highly likely to arrive in the UK in latest climate change warning.
	So now that headline... Oh, there's your connection.
	That's the one I liked.
	I'm like, what is this?
	So I'll bring up this.
	This is from the Mirror, which is another fine, outstanding... Oh yeah, another fine, outstanding publication we can be proud of.
	A deadly virus that is killing nearly 50% of patients is highly likely That's your climate change language.
	To arrive in the UK along with other illnesses spread by insects which are marching north due to climate change.
	Insects are marching north from climate change?
	Across the English Channel, even.
	They're just marching north.
	They're swimming.
	They're swimming.
	A good movie for people out there who want to see something like this was also was a radio play.
	I think it's a Rudyard, I think it's Rudyard, Rudyard Kipling.
	Rudyard Kipling, yes.
	Called the Naked, the movie's called The Naked Jungle.
	And it's about, it's a great movie, it's about these giant army ants marching north Eating everything in their way.
	It's a terrific film.
	Well, they're marching north towards the UK and they're going to swim, apparently.
	The army ants, yeah, they did.
	They had to swim across a couple rivers.
	Well, the English Channel is not just a river.
	Anyway, let me tell you about this disease.
	It has a great name.
	They go through the channel.
	They can just crawl across.
	They go through the channel.
	There you go.
	Yeah, who's going to stop them?
	This is CCHF.
	CCHF.
	It has a snappy acronym and it has everything you want in there.
	It's the Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic Fever.
	So you got a little bit of Russia in there, you know, Crimea, got a little Congo.
	You got hemorrhagic fever, which is Ebola, and Marfans, I guess, or not Marfans, it's the other one, Marburg.
	Marburg, Marburg, yep, yep.
	Marburg.
	Marfans is what Lincoln had.
	Princess Marburg, yep, you got that in there.
	You got Crimea, you got hemorrhagic, and Congo!
	Yep, you got it all.
	Wow, what a great moniker.
	Symptoms may include fever, muscle pains, headaches.
	And it's caused by bugs?
	Yes, the CCHF virus is typically spread by tick bites, or close contact with the blood, secretions, organs, or other bodily fluids of infected persons or animals.
	So, you know, it spreads like monkey virus.
	Groups that are high at risk of infection are farmers, and those who work in slaughterhouses.
	The virus can also spread between people via body fluids.
	Hello, gays!
	You thought monkey virus was interesting.
	Diagnosis can be made by detec- Why are you citing gays in this case?
	Heterosexual couples have body fluid exchanges to an extreme.
	No, no, no.
	Monkey pox only went between men who have sex with men.
	Do I have to remind you of this fact?
	Fact.
	Monkey virus only spread between men who have sex with men.
	Now, diagnosis can be made by detecting antibodies, the virus's RNA, or viral proteins.
	Now, of course, there are no FDA or WHO approved therapeutics.
	Yet.
	No, no, no.
	We can't have therapeutics.
	You've got to get a vaccine.
	If there's therapeutics, you can't have an emergency use case.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm getting my things mixed up.
	You're right.
	Therapeutics are out.
	Getting ahead of it.
	Getting ahead of it.
	In the past 20 years, CCHF outbreaks have been reported in Eastern Europe, particularly in the former Soviet Union.
	Bastards.
	Bastards.
	Russians.
	Bastards.
	Yeah, this one's got legs.
	I think it's got legs.
	There's no clips yet, but they're coming.
	They're coming.
	Keep your eye on CCHF.
	I think it's one too many letters.
	I feel good about it.
	I do.
	I feel good about this one.
	It's one too many letters.
	I think Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever.
	The CCHF.
	I can just see it.
	CCHF.
	Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever.
	It should be CCH.
	CCH.
	Yeah, they can probably do that.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	It's got everything in there.
	And you bleed out through your butt and your eyeballs.
	Oh yeah, you have to bleed out through your eyeballs.
	Otherwise it's just no good.
	It's no good.
	Woo, brother.
	All right.
	All right.
	Do we have the, I mean, I've got Russia.
	I got some Ukraine.
	I got a little Ukraine.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Let's do some... I got some Ukraine stuff, too.
	This is the one that these... I only have two clips.
	You can play the rest of them.
	Play us out with yours, but... Whoa!
	You okay?
	What happened there?
	Oh, okay.
	John?
	Uh-oh!
	We have a podcaster down!
	John?
	Uh, hello?
	Uh-oh.
	What happened here?
	Something happened.
	Test, test, test?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Let me see.
	Okay, this should be good right here.
	Yes.
	It's interesting.
	I already got a... Darren O'Neill sent his resume.
	Yeah, that bastard.
	I knew he would.
	You're like, hey man, I can do the show.
	That's easy.
	He has it out there ready.
	All right.
	Ukraine.
	Back to Ukraine clips.
	I'm glad everything's okay.
	It always scares me a little.
	It's kind of irksome that it fell the way it did.
	Yeah.
	But now I know that they reset the clean feed right away.
	Okay.
	I wouldn't have been dead for two minutes instead of probably 30 seconds.
	Sorry.
	Well, it's all good.
	We're all back to normal.
	All systems go.
	Okay.
	This is really annoying, and this is the push to NATO that is being talked a lot about.
	Here we go.
	Push to NATO.
	Leaders from all 31 NATO member nations will hold their annual summit next month in Vilnius, Lithuania.
	Ahead of that, some members and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky are stepping up their calls for Ukraine to join the military alliance.
	Ali Rogin has the details.
	Poland's parliament today passed a resolution supporting Ukraine's admission to NATO.
	Ukraine in NATO is a contentious issue long before the war began and it has only accelerated since then.
	We have now our own debate on when or whether Ukraine should be invited into NATO.
	Charles Kupchan served on the National Security Council staff during the Obama and Clinton administrations.
	He's now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and a Georgetown University professor.
	Evelyn Farkas was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine, and Eurasia during the Obama administration.
	She is now the Executive Director of the McCain Institute at Arizona State University.
	Welcome back to you both.
	Evelyn, I want to begin with you.
	You support Ukraine becoming a member of NATO now.
	Why?
	Ukraine has earned it.
	First of all, we gave Ukraine a political agreement back when the international community took their nuclear weapons that we would defend them if they were invaded.
	And the countries that were supposed to defend Ukraine did defend Ukraine to some extent, but not to the extent that Ukraine expected.
	Since then, Ukraine has been fighting to uphold the international order, the principles of the sanctity of borders, which Russia has violated repeatedly.
	And frankly speaking, they are now the most capable, the largest, most NATO-interoperable, battle-hardened, capable military on the European continent.
	So from a military perspective, they've also earned it.
	They've earned it.
	It's fair and square.
	They deserve it.
	A couple of things in there.
	First of all, she's with the McCain Institute at ASU.
	Yeah, Danger Will Robinson.
	McCain, who went in there with Vicky and with Lindy Hop, Lady G. Graham, handing out cookies, the whole My Don Group 2014.
	They made a coup happen.
	And secondly, this idea that the nuclear weapons that were taken out of Ukraine were Russian.
	They weren't made there.
	There were a bunch of Russian nukes that were positioned there.
	They were not really owned by Ukraine if it became a sovereign nation.
	And so they had to pull them out.
	They just had to, because it would be dangerous as proliferation just to let these things exist.
	And it had nothing to do with them protecting themselves with nukes.
	So this is bullcrap.
	So let's turn the tables and ask the guy who's the Counsel on Foreign Relations, he's a Georgetown professor, blah, blah, blah, the whole thing.
	To get an official, the official take, because I think he would be the one with a, with a, would be a mouthpiece for the intelligence groups, as opposed to this crazy woman who just, and by the way, this went on further than I have clips of, and she just goes nuts about, yeah, yeah, good, they earned it, we should load them up, and we should, the Russians aren't going to do anything.
	Their meanings, All right.
	Charles, to you, what's your response?
	Has Ukraine earned it?
	I'm all for helping Ukraine and doing our best to enable Ukraine to recover as much of its territory as possible, hopefully all of its territory.
	But I part ways with Evelyn on the question of whether NATO should open its doors and offer membership to Ukraine at this point.
	President Biden and his NATO allies are helping Ukraine defend itself, but they're not going to war to defend Ukraine, in part because they've made a judgment that they're not ready to see NATO go to war with Russia.
	Risk World War 3 over Ukraine, and we need to keep in mind that if NATO does admit Ukraine, and a single bomb were to fall on Kiev, we would have a treaty-based obligation to go to war with Russia.
	Secondly, I think that we see that this is a war that is going to go on for a long time.
	We don't know how it will end.
	We need to keep open the prospect for some sort of ceasefire, perhaps an armistice, in which we might need Russia to play ball.
	Much harder to get them to play ball.
	Two final reasons.
	One is there's no consensus in NATO about mitting Ukraine.
	NATO's strongest suit right now is its unity, and I don't think we want to interject this debate right before the summit in July and go into that summit with disunity.
	Ah, see the disunity right there in the program.
	Yeah, and so you have the official, that's I consider that the official opinion, It's going to last a long time.
	So in other words, no, they're not getting into NATO at this point.
	There's no way.
	And this war is going on forever.
	So get your pocketbooks out.
	Luckily, NPR is going to give us a breakdown of how the Spring Offensive is going.
	Did you know it was well underway, John?
	The Spring Offensive.
	The Spring Offensive is rocking along.
	Yes, I understand.
	Yes, the Spring Offensive.
	That it's well underway and the Ukrainians are kicking butt.
	Well, listen to this, just the beginning, like a minute and a half of this report from NPR.
	My buddy Dave Jones sent this to me.
	Now just imagine they're reporting on a soccer match.
	Crane's plans for a spring offensive as spring turns to summer.
	Where does this effort stand?
	Well, Ari, at this point we're a little bit over a week into it.
	It's limited progress, very tough going.
	The Russian troops are dug in and they're wading with minefields and trenches and air power.
	Every village is being contested.
	The Ukrainians are trying to advance along three separate lines, one to the east, two to the southeast.
	They're probably doing best in this sort of middle line.
	They're working their way down a small river and they've taken several villages along the way.
	Overall, the Ukrainian military says they've taken about roughly 40 square miles, so they are moving forward, but it's a slow pace and they have not approached any of the key towns or cities that they'll need to really make this a success.
	So, Tom, what are you hearing about the additional support that might be coming to Ukraine from the U.S.
	and other allies?
	We're getting the other team's update here.
	So we have, they've taken 40 square miles.
	Yes, 40 miles through the middle line, the left line, the line on the right.
	But they got no towns, it's just 40 miles of empty fields.
	That's right, that's right, and there's more coming.
	So they took 40 miles of raw land.
	Land, it's all about land.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, all right.
	To really make this a success.
	So, Tom, what are you hearing about the additional support that might be coming to Ukraine from the U.S.
	and other allies?
	Ari, as you noted, there was a meeting in Brussels, and the U.S.
	and its allies pledged more air defense weapons.
	And that's, of course, vital because Russia continues to hammer Ukrainian cities for more missiles for the Patriot batteries and other air defense systems.
	Also more tanks, armored vehicles, shoulder-fired missiles.
	No!
	Russian tanks.
	And finally, their plans, they announced to train Ukrainian pilots on the F-16 warplane in Denmark and the Netherlands sometime this summer.
	But no word on when and how many of the aircraft will actually get to Ukraine.
	And that has annoyed Ukrainian officials and some defense analysts who said, we needed these planes much earlier.
	Now you're looking at probably sometime next year.
	Defense analysts.
	They're angry because we can't get new gear fast enough.
	We need to spend, spend, spend!
	So yeah, this is going to be a very long spending process.
	I think you're completely right.
	You can call it a war.
	Clearly about 40 miles of turf.
	But it's turf.
	40 miles of golf course.
	It's just here to empty our pockets into the military industrial complex and enter the spy spook master Richard Engel, who has an exclusive one-on-one, one-on-one.
	Yeah, this guy was on.
	You know, I've been seeing him on and off.
	I wish I had some clips, but yeah, I'm glad you got them.
	Actually, we have clip custodians, we have clip collectors.
	This is clip collector Steve, I think, and he got two clips of the one-on-one.
	Ukraine tonight is in a full-scale fight to take back Russian... Listen, the sound effects are groovy!
	This is how you do a report, people.
	Put some machine gun fire in there.
	Ukraine tonight is in a full-scale fight to take back Russian occupied land.
	Does he have a gun battery behind him?
	What's the deal?
	Yeah, this is what you do.
	It's called B-Roll.
	A pivotal moment for our interview with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the presidential compound in Kiev.
	We are now in the early days of this long-anticipated counter-offensive.
	Yes.
	How's it going?
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	I thought it was an offensive.
	I thought it was the spring offensive.
	Has it always been counter-offensive?
	Did I misunderstand that?
	I thought I should mention it.
	I thought it was the spring offensive, not the... I thought it was offensive too, but... We could be wrong, we could be wrong.
	But it could have been, counter-offensive may be a term they used in there.
	Alright, well, it's a pivotal moment!
	Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the presidential compound in Kiev.
	We are now in the early days of this long-anticipated counter-offensive.
	How's it going?
	I cannot give you all the details.
	There are both defensive and offensive actions.
	Things look not bad.
	I would say it's generally positive, but it's difficult.
	Things look not bad.
	I love how NBC got this... I mean, surely they have better translators on staff.
	It seems odd that you would choose this guy, but it's just me.
	So defensive and offensive actions... It's for a reason.
	Oh, it's everything's for a reason.
	What do you think the reason is?
	Okay, well, let's stop.
	Let's stop and think about this because this guy is dynamite.
	He's got the deep accent.
	He sounds like some sort of Boris guy from a cartoon.
	He's cartoony.
	He's very cartoony.
	This thing's going not bad.
	Not bad.
	Would you like some borscht?
	I'm sorry.
	Things look not bad.
	I would say it's generally positive, but it's difficult.
	Our heroic people, our troops, who are now at the front of the front line, are facing very tough resistance.
	And you understand why?
	Because for Russia to lose this campaign to Ukraine, I would say, actually means losing the war.
	President Zelensky also had a dire warning.
	He blamed Russia for blowing up a dam, which Russia denies, flooding dozens of villages, and tells us the next Russian target is the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant.
	Russia does want to blow up the station.
	Why would they want to do that?
	Why would they want to do that?
	For the same reason they blew up the dam, of course!
	That makes nothing but sense!
	Because, like with the dam, they are not interested in Ukraine's security.
	They always need instability here and want the world to pressure Ukraine to stop the conflict.
	So that is the official CIA message as far as I'm concerned.
	Okay, well, one thing I want to mention.
	Yes, I have a second clip.
	Is that the Russians have long since taken over that power plant.
	The whole area is theirs.
	And so they would be blowing themselves up.
	If they blew that up, and they're maintaining it for a reason, and they could, if they wanted to cause some... They could just turn it off.
	They don't have to blow it up.
	They could just turn it off.
	They could just turn it off.
	So this is some, this is a Ukrainian operation.
	They're trying to, they want to attack it or something to get to, I don't know what they're up to.
	Ukrainian?
	Oh, come on, John.
	Okay, our guys.
	Catholics in action.
	Hello.
	That's okay.
	Now, I was thinking about this too.
	$70 billion worth of American money that's going over there in one form or another and then being distributed to Africa.
	Is it possible that the CIA, that there's not too much complaining about this, let's just say the CIA, is the middleman as the arms dealer To sell the $70 billion worth of arms, or at least half of it, let's say $35 billion, to Africa for maybe $100 billion in grey market sales and return that $100 billion to our coffers so the $70 billion investment actually is money well spent.
	It's an investment.
	Yeah, dream on!
	That's all going to the big guy.
	10% for the big guy.
	What are you talking about?
	We talk to our coffers.
	When has that ever happened?
	Oh, here America, we just got some money back for you.
	Unlikely.
	Here's the second part of this.
	He says Russia is getting desperate as more Western military aid is coming.
	Today, the U.S.
	and other allies agreed to train Ukrainian pilots to operate F-16s.
	But it's still unclear when they'll arrive and how many.
	You've been talking about planes since day one.
	I remember seeing you the very early days of the war in this building in the basement.
	Now they're somewhere in the pipeline.
	Wait, wait, stop.
	What was Engel doing there in the first place?
	In the very early days in the basement.
	In the very early days in the basement.
	He was getting briefed.
	Of course.
	And how come they're not in the basement anymore, is my question.
	Back to Richard Engel, our expert on the ground.
	Wasn't he in the Maidan as well?
	I don't remember that he was or not, but probably.
	I remember seeing you in the very early days of the war in this building, in the basement.
	Now they're somewhere in the pipeline.
	What has been the effect of having weapons rolled out like this, given slice by slice over time?
	It's prolonged the war.
	If we are supplied with the machinery that is currently held by our partners, we will win faster.
	We also asked about comments from former President Trump and Governor DeSantis questioning American support for Ukraine.
	President Zelensky invited both to come here and said, unless Vladimir Putin is stopped in this country, there'll be a wider war with NATO.
	Ah, there it is, yes.
	So it doesn't really matter.
	If they're in NATO or not.
	They're coming.
	The Russians are coming.
	The Russians are coming.
	Wider war.
	It's going to be everywhere.
	Get ready, Holland.
	You're next.
	I have... Unbelievable.
	So a delegation of African nations went to Ukraine and met with President Zelensky.
	So they could do the deal and get those arms down there?
	It was billed as a mediation mission to get some kind of peace because, you know... Oh, that's right.
	Yeah, this began a couple weeks ago.
	Yeah, they got some issues.
	Their people can't eat.
	Wheat.
	They want their wheat.
	Yeah, they want their wheat.
	They can't eat.
	I love Douchebag Doug from France 24.
	Our favorite!
	He says something here that is just too funny.
	When it comes to mainstream media and how they view things, particularly fairness and neutrality, this kind of takes the cake.
	Speak to our international affairs commentator, Douglas Herbert.
	Hello to you.
	There are some critics over this delegation.
	Some say it's the wrong group, and some say it's at the worst time.
	Why is that?
	You're right.
	The critics have been unsparing, and the critics mainly, obviously, Ukraine, but also in the US, Europe, members of NATO.
	What have they been saying?
	The criticism ranges from, this is a laughingstock mediation mission, mediation in quotes, to they have Absolutely no leverage compared to the real global powers such as China, which could have some bearing on this conflict if it really had the will, the political will, to they are not neutral.
	This is where the criticism is.
	I'll start with the we are not neutral plank.
	You have six nations taking part in this mission, and what's interesting is while more than a dozen African nations failed to condemn the Russian invasion early on, early in the days last year, a UN resolution, four of the nations on this mission abstained from that resolution condemning Russia's invasion.
	So you have one of the biggest ones, if not the biggest one.
	You have South Africa, you have Senegal, you have the Republic of Congo, and you have Uganda.
	Those four nations, that is four out of the six on this team, refuse to vote abstain from condemning.
	You do have two who are represented in this delegation, Egypt and Zambia, and they did vote to condemn Russia's invasion.
	So you have this neutrality problem here.
	A delegation whose members are not seen as neutral, and at worst, seen as beholden to Moscow for various things from, as you mentioned, So, help me understand.
	If there's a vote to condemn Russia, and you say, you know what, I'm not going to vote, isn't that the definition of being neutral?
	That's what neutrality is!
	That's what neutrality is!
	But no, in the eyes of the mainstream media, Okay, douchebag Doug.
	That, you're now a puppet.
	Yeah, you're a Putin puppet.
	You're a Vladimir Putin puppet.
	The whole idea of neutrality is, you know what, I'm not for or against anybody in this.
	I'm neutral.
	That's what Switzerland did.
	Now we're neutral.
	Give us your money.
	We're neutral.
	So, this is, it's just so sad.
	Yeah.
	And then, of course, you know, we've got to throw some more nuke fear in there.
	Vladimir Putin's new statements about nuclear weapons and his possible response if Ukraine receives NATO F-16 fighter jets.
	ABC's Ian Pannell is in Ukraine for us this morning with the latest.
	Ian, good morning.
	Good morning.
	Yeah, good morning.
	That's right, the first Russian tactical nukes have now been deployed in Belarus to the north of Ukraine.
	Who said they're tactical?
	He's making it up as he goes tactical nukes.
	I don't even know what that means anymore.
	Did you just open a can?
	This is a bottle of Origin sparkling water.
	Origin.
	Origin.
	And is it basically just fizzy water?
	Expensive with a nice label?
	You know, the label could be better.
	It's not as fizzy as I like.
	All right, back to the tactical nukes.
	...to the north of Ukraine.
	But it's also effectively moving the weapons onto the border of three NATO countries as well.
	Putin's claiming that they'd only be used in the event of a threat to the Russian state.
	But remember, he invaded Ukraine in the first place because he falsely claimed it was a threat to the Russian state.
	This isn't the first time, of course, that he's raised... No, but wait, he's throwing in the word falsely.
	Yes, falsely.
	Falsely claimed.
	Why does he just say claims?
	Putin claims it's a threat.
	That's bad enough, but falsely claims?
	That means he's insincere?
	Does that mean he's insincere when he claims something?
	Good point!
	I love your linguistics!
	...Russian state.
	But remember, he invaded Ukraine in the first place because he falsely claimed it was a threat to the Russian state.
	This isn't the first time, of course, that he's raised the specter of a nuclear attack as a threat in this war, and this deployment is just the first wave with more to come.
	The Biden administration says it's closely monitoring the situation, but for now says there's no reason to adjust America's nuclear posture.
	Meanwhile, Ukraine's allies preparing to start training pilots on F-16 and other fighter jets, which could be delivered to Ukraine as early as late summer.
	Russia's saying that it will try to attack those aircraft with Putin warning there's a serious danger that NATO could be pulled further into the war.
	Meanwhile, Ukraine is saying that it's made further small advances in its counter-offensive.
	And this morning, though, the British military, the British Ministry of Defence, assessing that Russia likely has a temporary advantage in the battles in the south, especially by increased use of air power, in particular, attack helicopters.
	Oh, attack helicopters.
	That's the next one.
	We need some helicopter action.
	What a scam.
	This thing is such a scam.
	You think?
	What a scam.
	Scam.
	I mean, it's an op, and it's a scop.
	It's a horrible scam op.
	It's just more, more, more, more, more.
	And they're getting crappy F-16s.
	We know they're not getting the good stuff.
	You have the older F-16s.
	And they gotta be taken out of service eventually.
	Yeah, so we have to make room for the new ones.
	New gear.
	Yeah, and all the defense ministers meeting in Vilnius.
	Oh, yes.
	Vilnius.
	Vilnius.
	Yeah, Vilnius.
	Let's get some more money.
	How do we get some money out of there?
	a lot of shoulder back slapping going on there I don't know All right.
	Yeah.
	That's the end of Ukraine for today.
	That is, that is kind of... Wait, I have one more.
	This is a drone clip.
	It's always interesting to hear a drone clip.
	Tonight, new details of the dramatic moment Russian soldier Ruslan Anatin surrenders on the battlefield to a Ukrainian drone.
	The drone, yeah he surrendered to a drone.
	This video given to ABC News by the Ukrainian Army's 92nd Brigade begins with a different Russian soldier running through the trenches amidst fierce fighting near Bakhmut last month.
	The drone drops an explosive device just a few feet away knocking him to the ground and eventually killing him.
	That's when Anitin emerged from a tunnel in the trenches.
	Realising he's the last man standing, he uses hand signals to surrender to the drone, shaking his head and crossing his arms in an X. The Ukrainians attach a note to the drone in Russian saying, surrender, follow the drone.
	- - Oh, boy, a crock of a crap story. - The drone moving side to side to signalling, "No, he won't." He makes a treacherous walk half a mile across the open battlefield over the bodies of his fallen comrades.
	At one point, artillery fire narrowly missing him, the Ukrainians claiming it was Russian fire.
	Close to Ukrainian trenches, he surrenders and is taken prisoner. - - The Ukrainians recording this video.
	He says simply, I am Anitin Ruslan Nikolayevich, a soldier of the Russian Army.
	The drone saved my life today.
	Follow the drone!
	Can you imagine?
	Just take out his handgun and shoot the thing.
	Follow the drone!
	Follow the drone!
	Oh my goodness.
	And how did they, wait, they wrote a note and then flew another drone out there to deliver the note?
	I don't get that note part of the story.
	This is Call of Duty 7 or something.
	I don't think this is, this makes no sense.
	They put a note on the drone.
	Follow the drone.
	And it rocked, it rocked back and forth.
	Oh, okay, that's a signal.
	I gotta follow the drone.
	John, this is dumb.
	I'm going to say it again.
	Wag the dog.
	There's some real people dying, but it's wag the dog.
	Well, the drone story is definitely out of control.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	In the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the counter-offensive.
	Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVore!
	Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air.
	And in the morning to all the trolls in the troll room.
	Let's count them for a second.
	Let's turn it around.
	Follow the drone, trolls!
	Follow the drone!
	Um, 1899.
	Low.
	Father's Day, everyone says it's a three-day weekend.
	This is, uh... And it's Juneteenth today.
	Tomorrow.
	Well, it's the 18th today.
	Well, tomorrow is the holiday.
	So it's a holiday, three-day weekend, and so we get Thursday numbers.
	We should have, it should be 23, 24, but it's 18.
	So we're down, way down, and so no one's listening to the show.
	We work, we go out of our way to work on these holidays.
	We do.
	And nobody cares.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's alright.
	That's show business.
	You know, you work on holidays.
	And we don't take sabbaticals, or what is it called?
	Not sabbatical.
	Yeah, I know, hiatus.
	Hiatus!
	That's the term.
	Hiatus.
	The show's on hiatus, everybody.
	We're almost at the end of our season.
	Yeah, the season's over.
	We're going on hiatus.
	We'll be back next season.
	Can you imagine?
	We love having the trolls with us, though.
	Thank you for the almost 2,000 trolls who hung out and are sitting study with us.
	We appreciate that.
	You can be one of them by going to trollroom.io.
	That's where you can listen to the live stream.
	You can hop into the chatroom.
	Of course, you should be ditching your modern podcast app or ditching your legacy podcast app and getting a modern one at podcastapps.com.
	A whole bunch of them now have this live feature included.
	Podverse, Podcast Guru, Podcast Addict, Fountain, CurioCaster.
	It's growing.
	The format we've been using for almost 16 years is now officially in, it's probably like eight or nine podcast apps now.
	And as I said, podcastapps.com.
	You can also follow us at noagendasocial.com.
	People seem to like using knowagenthesocial.com for, you know, for getting groups together and organizing themselves and doing stuff, which I think is a very good usage of it.
	I mean, I use it kind of as an inbox, but from time to time I'll just go to the local timeline and, you know, once you get through the, you know, inevitable 5,000 memes because, yeah, oh, we have a community!
	Let me upload memes all day!
	Memes!
	Memes!
	More memes!
	I use a couple of them in a newsletter once in a while.
	I'm not saying they're not good, but there are producers out there who must be a hundred a day.
	That's all they do.
	Oh, I got another good meme, gotta share with everybody.
	Most of the memes stink, by the way.
	Most of them are pretty bad, but from time to time there's a good one.
	But I like it when people are organizing and doing stuff together.
	That's the kind of stuff I like to see.
	Doesn't matter.
	You can reach us from any Mastodon account that does not block us for our freeze peach.
	That's what they call it.
	There's over 400 that block us.
	We're on the block list.
	Don't even investigate.
	Just block us just because someone said so!
	And you can figure it out and try it by searching for and following Adam at KnowAgendaSocial.com, John C. DeVore at KnowAgendaSocial.com.
	As part of our Value for Value mission, which is another reason why we're still here, is because we're supported by the community.
	The community.
	The producers.
	We have no listeners.
	We only have producers.
	Who support us with time, talent, and treasure, and that really is what, I mean, I was, even this morning, you know, we've got the No Agenda stream, and there's all kinds of, you know, shows 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and Darren O'Neill is the rock and roll pre-show, and, you know, we do Switchover.
	I mean, it's more professional than an actual radio network.
	You know, it's like Darren says, over to you, boom, I jack in, the stream switches, and this is all stuff that other people have done for us.
	Because if we had to pay for it, it would have never happened.
	Ever.
	So we're highly appreciative.
	All these producers who help us out, sending us stories, sending us clips, giving us their expertise, everybody's an expert at something.
	And one of the expertises a number of people have, It's creating artwork, and we are one of the few shows that has changing new artwork for every single episode, and we like to thank and highlight the artist who does that for the previous episode.
	That was 1564, 1,564 episodes of this show.
	We titled that one Zombie Town, and the art came to us from Dame Kenny Benn.
	Which was just a beautiful, a beautiful piece, popped like crazy, because it had a white background, I love that, and it was a bowl full of eyeballs.
	Which, now what was the eyeball thing about?
	I can't remember, it was a story.
	It was the guy at Harvard that was selling body parts on Etsy and eBay.
	Yes, the ghoul!
	So it was like guys making a hundred grand a year on the side besides being the head of the morgue at Harvard or whatever.
	Oh yeah, that's right.
	It had a little price tag.
	A little $33 for a bowl of balls.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you Dame Kenny Ben.
	Everyone celebrated this.
	Everyone thought it was a great choice.
	There were a couple other things that we looked at.
	The Jaycon sketch.
	You were quite fond of one piece.
	Well, the Jaycon sketch one I thought was kind of cool because even though we didn't talk about it, it was the eagle, American eagle, pierced by an ESG DEI and an SEL arrow, which was kind of a symbolic thing, and you pointed out that we had not spoken about ESG or DEI, only the SEL, social-emotional learning.
	And so that kind of nixed that.
	There was another one... Yeah, kinda.
	Kinda.
	You liked... I liked the Bible one a little bit.
	It's a B-A-I Bible.
	What was that about again?
	From Nyko's save.
	Because we talked about A.I.
	Oh, A.I.
	Bible.
	Somebody said, you know, A.I.
	will be writing a Bible.
	Yeah, new religion coming.
	Yes.
	Then we had some zombie towns, which were okay.
	Was that it?
	Some other, AI, we had a dinosaur, AI no agenda, dinosaur.
	Matthew Drobko's deer with the bug eyes made me laugh, but it didn't really make sense.
	It made no sense.
	And Dame Kenny Benn did give us a chuckle with the blue dress, the spotted blue dress.
	With the cigar?
	Is she even titled it Cheap Joke?
	Yeah, it was a cheap joke.
	That was a cheap joke, but thank you.
	We got a chuckle out of it.
	And was that it?
	Pretty much.
	I think that was kind of it, yeah.
	I mean, the one thing, there was a couple pieces that, uh, uh, what was it?
	What was the title of the show?
	I forgot.
	Uh, Zombie Town.
	Zombie Town, yeah.
	I kind of like the, uh, Matthew Dropko's Zombie Town version 2 of the San Francisco sign.
	Yeah.
	But we're gonna use the, uh... Yeah, we tried to keep the title.
	The eyeball art was gonna win, so... And the other one is, um, More, more D had an AI Bible, which is a magic eight ball.
	It's a little, a little too complicated, but eight balls have been a staple, I think, of art.
	Yes, the magic eight ball.
	Eight ball has come back from time to time, so.
	Yeah, it's a friend of the show.
	So thank you, friend of the show.
	Thank you, Dame Kenny Benn, and to all the artists who are always doing fabulous work, AI-generated or not, I see you, comic strip blogger.
	We appreciate it.
	You're doing Yeoman's work.
	It is beautiful.
	It is a great way to contribute to the show, which, as you know, is time, talent, or treasure.
	And we do have some people who are celebrating Father's Day with us.
	Again, we're working on Father's Day, and they donated their treasure.
	It is always welcomed and absolutely needed.
	We have no other gigs.
	And I would like to... I was somewhat bewildered by the fact that we got a lot of, you know, we had our, I'd say, average donations, but for Father's Day, I really expected someone to gift their father a knighthood and nobody did it.
	No.
	No.
	You know, dads are on the outs, man.
	You know, that's just a fact of life.
	You know?
	Fathers no longer need it.
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	I have no other explanation for it.
	But the ones who did donate love their dads, or the dads they are married to.
	So there are some beautiful notes here.
	And we kick it off with our first executive producer.
	We like to hand out these titles to the top donors, and they're well-deserved, and they're real.
	They're not some phony baloney thing.
	It's an actual title.
	Bob Millsap is in Surprise, Arizona, and kicks us off at 333.33, and he says, Shelly and I need a de-douching!
	You've been de-douched.
	Bob says, evil COVID machine almost got me near death and hospitalized for 53 days, December of 21.
	Oh, I remember this.
	Tina saw my crazed fight on Instagram and started pulling for me.
	Thank you, Tina!
	My book, Shake Yourself Free, is out now.
	That's right, The Keeper.
	She was following him.
	She saw that and she's like, holy crap, and she was definitely lifting him up as much as possible over the Insta.
	His book, Shake Yourself Free, is out now.
	Dame Becky's next on the list.
	She's in Katy, Texas.
	Or Kay, as they now say.
	Happy Father's Day to Sir Mike of the Great Katy Prairie from Dame Becky.
	Best husband and father ever.
	No jingles, no karma.
	$333.33 from Dame Becky.
	Felix Rios is in San Jose, California.
	$333.33.
	I do not have a note from Felix.
	I don't see it.
	I don't get one.
	I got nothing.
	I got nothing either, so we give him a double up karma.
	Thank you, Felix.
	You've got...
	Double S!
	Karma.
	Badanda Sir Luca of Walla Walla, Washington.
	Walla Walla. Walla Walla.
	Good wine growing area, by the way.
	ITM chaps, greetings from the southeast.
	Here's the deal.
	I just finished scanning my family photo album into a digital format and you will never guess how many photos I scanned.
	How many photos did you scan?
	333?
	Not a joke!
	So here's a donation for $333, which is what his donation is.
	Jingles, please.
	Jill Abramson, vocal fry, Trump dumps, Jobs Karma, the Pelosi-Trump-Joe Jobs variety, and signed Sir Luca of the Southeast.
	You know, obviously, I read the New York Times, like, all day long, mainly on my iPad app.
	They did dumps.
	They call them dumps.
	Big, massive dumps.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Tracy Leslie is in Bremerton, Washington.
	31025 must be a reason for that.
	Ah, it's a switcheroo.
	Note with hopes of being read during the show around Father's Day.
	Well, there you go, it's on Father's Day.
	Nailed it!
	We nailed it.
	$310.25 donation towards the knighthood of Sir Brian Leslie of Bremalo in celebration of his fatherhood magnificence.
	He is often perplexed, yet always grateful wife.
	Would like to acknowledge Brian's stellar wit and verve in taking care of her and their three girls.
	Would not want to, and literally could not do it without you.
	You are loved.
	That's a sweet note.
	That's a very nice note.
	And the switcheroo.
	From a wife and three girls, that means everyone telling him he's wrong.
	All the time.
	All the time.
	Sir, uh, El Pope de Ciclismo, I'm guessing, in Rio Verde, Arizona.
	The, what the green road... He's a black knight, actually.
	Black knight.
	Hello, gents.
	Thanks for your outstanding work.
	Please accept this humble donation as a token of my admiration for the sanity pills you provided us on a regular basis.
	Back in early May, I was unceremoniously made redundant at my job despite 12 years of great performance reviews and significant contributions to the company.
	If you're redundant, it means somebody else is doing your job.
	Why weren't they redundant?
	Yeah.
	Because they got paid less.
	Yep.
	But fear not, fear not.
	Monday I'll be back into the slave force as I landed a new job.
	My wife and I are trying to close this chapter of our lives and embark on a new adventure.
	I'm in need of house sale karma and general life karma.
	Could you please send some my way?
	As always, Misbehave and have fun.
	Sir, uh, El Popa de... Clis... Eclismo.
	Black Knight.
	You got it.
	That means, uh, well, if you want to have that, you need a little bit of goat added.
	You've got... Karma.
	Then we have a row of ducks for our first Associate Executive Producership, and this comes from the Indiana No Agenda Meetup, which means they collected that and they decide who gets it, sometimes with fun and games, sometimes, well, who knows how they do it, maybe it's a switcheroo, there you go.
	Associate Executive Producer donation for Alicia McHomer.
	Let me just do that right now.
	Make sure we credit you properly, Alicia.
	In the morning, John Adam, at this past Indy Noah Jenna Meetup, I got the chance to look at Mimi's book, Too Many Eggs.
	TooManyBooks.TooManyEggs.com.
	That book is amazing!
	The size of the book is small compared to the amount of information contained, and I love it!
	It's a big book.
	I thought it was a, in fact when we got it, I thought it wasn't small, it was hefty, it was a nice product.
	I'll be buying myself a copy to keep.
	I am only 22 years old and I love to cook and I practice to become a better cook every day.
	I never knew eggs could be cooked in so many ways and this book will definitely keep my breakfast interesting for quite some time.
	Not just breakfast recipes.
	Thank you guys for putting together the best podcast in the universe.
	I love it when John makes book and movie recommendations.
	If only he would make a list!
	I'd like to... Do we have lists online?
	Yeah, there's plenty of No Agenda Book Club lists.
	Go to githolist.org, I think.
	I'd like to request jobs karma from my boyfriend Joshua and if I could get a goat karma for my birthday which is on June 18th.
	Sincerely, Alicia McHomer.
	You got it.
	We're going to do jobs and goat together.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Karma.
	Ralph, plain old Ralph in Miami, Florida.
	200.
	Happy Father's Day to both of you, and all the fathers and dads in the No Agenda Nation.
	Please send me some Father's Day Karma, or send some to my dad, Ralph Sr.
	in Miami.
	Yes.
	Ralph in Miami.
	You got it, Ralph.
	You've got Ralph Karma.
	By the way, those of you still here, the magic numbers are coming up soon in the donation segment, along with our special interview.
	Amy Lynn!
	In Cold Spring, Minnesota, $200, Associate Executive Producership, and she is switcherooing that for Dan the Man!
	And says, oh that's her smokin' hot husband, Dan the Man.
	Happy Father's Day, my smokin' hot husband, Dan the Man.
	You're an amazing dad to our sassy human resource, Kaylee?
	Think this is, you pronounce that Kaylee with an X?
	Kaylee?
	I think it's Kaylee.
	No, I think it's Shaylee, Shaylee maybe?
	Shaylee?
	X-A-Y-L-I.
	Interesting.
	That's an interesting, interesting.
	Kind of a cool name.
	Yeah.
	Kind of like an Elon Musk kid name, in a way.
	Just saying.
	But that's cool.
	And thank you for all the support in my new business venture.
	We love you!
	Your wife, Amy Lynn.
	Not a stripper.
	Jobs!
	Jobs, Karma!
	It's a good stripper's name.
	It's a good stripper's name.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	That's better for jobs!
	You suck, Karma.
	Welcome to the stage, Amy Lynn!
	Linda Lou Patkin.
	Ah!
	There you go, you finally get to do it.
	It's his first week, too.
	Yeah, every week.
	Every week.
	In Lakewood, Colorado.
	Jobs coming for all you job hunters out there for a competitive edge.
	Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs!
	Or just find Linda Lupatkin on the show's executive producer list and run a search.
	Very nice.
	Okay, well then she gets karma.
	She needs jobs karma for her wood.
	Yeah, we can do the jobs karma, no problem.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You saw karma.
	She must be cleaning up on this donation every week at 200 bucks.
	I think it's probably doing good business for her somehow, which is okay by me.
	I got no problem with it.
	Oh boy, it looks like something is messed up with my meetup reports.
	I'm going to have to look for this.
	Well, good news because we're going to go straight through.
	We have no nightings.
	We do have some meetup reports and meetup promos.
	No nightings on Father's Day.
	I know.
	I know, it's a little disappointing, but John is going to take us through the hundreds, since we did promise to mention all these Father's Day donations, and through to the 50s, and here we go!
	Frankie T starts us off in London, UK, $156.40.
	Needs a de-douching.
	$256.40.
	Needs a dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	Terry Wentz in Langley, Washington, $150.
	Lydia Terry B. Dolmanelli in Clifton Park, New York, $133.33.
	And this is a Happy Father's Day to Sir Geek Heretic.
	Crystal Garza in Dripping Springs.
	Oh, right down the road.
	Texas, right down the road.
	$117.18.
	And this is a switcheroo credit to Gilberto Garza.
	Uh, he needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Happy Father's Day to you.
	Anonymous in Atlanta, Georgia.
	$101.
	Dame Becky and Sir Mike in Katy, Texas.
	Uh, Happy Father's Day to our number one human resource and father of ten grand human re- Wow.
	Uh, Chris Kinney.
	Chris, it is in the mouth.
	Okay, Chris.
	Served Stewart in Stafford, UK.
	Staffordshire, UK.
	To my father, Ken, who died 22 years ago on Father's Day.
	Playing his last game of golf.
	At least he went out.
	While putting on the par for the 11th hole.
	Mystery Every Day.
	That's from Sue Stewart.
	Kevin McLaughlin, Locust, North Carolina.
	And he has a Father's Day call-out to boobs.
	8008!
	Yes.
	Central Jersey meet-up in Parlin, New Jersey.
	Switcheroo coaster donation from the Central Jersey meet-up for Craig Coccia.
	Christine Calva in Kelowna, BC.
	And that's a happy Father's Day to her smoking hot husband, Ian.
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington.
	We're catching his name every time now.
	6996.
	Oh, Rick.
	And congratulations to Jay for doing that.
	Ulrich Horkins in Wiener Neustadt in Austria?
	Wiener Neustadt!
	Wiener Neustadt, 6-7-6-7.
	Rita Harrington in Sparks, Nevada, 6-5-33.
	Happy Father's Day, John and Adam and all the dads.
	Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois, 6-0-0-6.
	Sir BNA, Nashville, Tennessee, 59-93, which is eggs over easy.
	Sir Brian Tobiasen in Gardner, Kansas, 58-88.
	Uh, Sir Doherty in Stephen City, Virginia.
	5678, Happy Father's Day, not Jake.
	Richard Futter in London, UK.
	Sir Richard, $55.10.
	James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, $55.10.
	That's double nickels on the dime.
	Dean Roker, $55.10.
	Jennifer Hansen in Braintree, Massachusetts, $55.10.
	Wishing the best dad in the universe, Don Hanson.
	Happy Father's Day!
	She loves him very much.
	Troy Funderburk in Spokane, Washington, 55.
	Baron Henry in Ranchos Palos Verde, 52-42.
	Bart Wieken in Harlem, Netherlands.
	He's a man overboard who's back.
	He needs a de-douching.
	He says he listened from the early start, lost interest, started listening again a few years later, bought a couple mugs from the No Agenda store, which by the way is before the store and the artists mainly.
	Never donated before.
	You've been de-douched.
	Kyla Warnock in Edmonton, Oklahoma.
	Switcheroo to my dad, David Mertens.
	Uh, toward his knighthood.
	Love you fathers, love you father, father pops, father's day pops, we love you and appreciate everything you do.
	John Ford in McKinney, Texas.
	51.
	For RFK Jr., I guess.
	Thomas Balmer in Iowa City, Iowa.
	Happy Father's Day to my dad, John Balmer.
	50-05.
	Or 50-50, actually.
	Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri.
	That's 50-05.
	Kimberly Burton in Greenville, Michigan is 50 with a Father's Day to her husband, Jody.
	Thank you so much for being a wonderful dad to our boys.
	Michael McInnes, Iola, Kansas.
	These are all 50s.
	This is 15.
	You're on the birthday list.
	Stephen Schumach in Xenia, Ohio, 50.
	Peter Odo in Ridge, New York.
	Joan Polz in Hernando Beach, Florida.
	Nathan Cochran in Hollywood, Florida.
	Alexander Verdejo in Gig Harbor, Washington.
	Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois.
	Sir Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
	Corey Bennett in Denver, Colorado.
	Travis Moore in Gibsonville, North Carolina.
	Happy Father's Day to the best podcast and all the dads out there.
	Alexis Robles in Chula Vista, California.
	John, I'm a dude, not a lady!
	Thanks, guys.
	Well, Alexis is... would probably be referred to as a lady a lot.
	I'll try to remember.
	Sir Eric in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, 50.
	He wants to give a posthumous Happy Father's Day to his dad, Ben.
	You're loved and missed every day.
	Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington, 50.
	Sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia.
	Sir Jerry Ringenroth in Saugus, California.
	And last on our list is Baron Allen Bean up there in Beaverton, Oregon.
	I want to thank these people for making the show.
	1565, a great show.
	Thank you very much.
	Yes, we really appreciate it, especially for our Executive and Associate Executive Producers.
	Those are real titles.
	You can use them anywhere.
	The titles are recognized.
	IMDB, LinkedIn, your resume, everything counts.
	Also, thank you so much to people who come in under $50.
	You are the ones who are on sustaining donations.
	These are very much appreciated.
	And, you know, from time to time, check in.
	Count before you know it.
	You reach that knighthood or that damehood.
	Thank you all so much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
	1565!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
	Order!
	Shut up, Wayne!
	Shut up, Slay.
	Shut up, Slay.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, no, I'm so sorry.
	And nice little less.
	We got Ron Chester celebrating today.
	Sir Jeff Tohig, I think he's celebrating on the 20th.
	Ulrich Herkens wishes his smoking hot girlfriend, Eva, a happy birthday.
	She turns 46 on the 21st.
	Derek, by the way, wishes his son, Brexton, a happy birthday on the 22nd.
	Michael Guinness is turning 50.
	And Blake wishes his smoking hot girlfriend and future smoking hot wife, Mary, a happy birthday.
	She turns 28.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	And thank you, Sparkles, for the chaos, Sparkles of Chaos, for the art you sent.
	It was very beautiful.
	I appreciated that.
	No agenda meetups.
	Now, it's very important to understand that throughout the years, we've created these No Agenda meetups, which initially was something John and I would go to, and there would be a whole bunch of people getting together, and then we'd hang out.
	We still do that from time to time when appropriate and when applicable.
	Of course, it's very busy, and we're old now.
	It takes a little bit more to get us out of the house.
	But.
	But...
	But what happened is this was such a popular idea, people really needed that connection amongst each other.
	You are a communite, you're part of Noah's generation, people have a lot to discuss, and these days, particularly after COVID, it's needed more and more.
	You need a place to go and hang out with people.
	By the way, people have also met at meetups and have gone on to get married and have kids.
	This is a great place just to get out.
	You don't have to worry about anything.
	You can discuss anything.
	Nothing is on or off the table.
	There's no condemning of anything.
	Everybody can have an opinion.
	It's all beautiful.
	It's very, very special the way no agenda meetups are run.
	And before you knew it, we were doing that on meetups.com.
	And then Mimi was running that.
	And that's a horrible service.
	And then Inceps, now Knight Sir Daniel, he created noagenda meetups.com.
	It's become a thing.
	And today we have quite a number of promos and meetup reports and let's go to the Midcoast Maniacs first.
	Hey Adam and John, it's Brian from the Midcoast Maniacs Meetup, and there were four of us here tonight.
	We're having a great time with pizza and salad from Dame Head Gardener, which I'm going to pass the phone to.
	Por la mañana, it's Dame Head Gardener.
	This is Ivana de Douchebag.
	D dot douchebag.
	Future Dame.
	D dot no de-douching.
	We had a great time.
	We're looking forward to the Scarborough meet-up down south pretty soon in northern Massachusetts, and another meet-up here in the mid-coast.
	That's Brian and Susie.
	Of course, we know them.
	Did a personal meet-up with them many, many years ago.
	Zombietown says aloha.
	In the morning, everybody.
	Sir Ernest over here.
	Zombietown.
	In the morning.
	What's your name?
	Don't have one.
	Head number seven.
	Don't have one.
	Who is this?
	Head number seven.
	Who are you?
	Steve.
	Alright.
	In the morning, John and Adam, and I don't know which other nation, we're at the Red 33, Red 33, Casa Del Red 33.
	Been looking at Bruce Cathy books.
	So check out Harmonic 371244, Energy Grid, and especially Harmonic 33.
	Thank you for your courage.
	In the morning!
	I'm not exactly sure, but I think we just got brainwashed.
	I'm not sure exactly what that was about.
	Kingston?
	ITM.
	Gitmo Nation.
	It's the one and only A White Mike coming at you from the Kingstown House Party Meetup.
	Oh yes.
	The pillows were fluffed.
	The curtains were steamed.
	Champagne was on ice.
	It was a party fit for Queen Ursula herself.
	I even, to take JCD's watch out for the microphones, literally strapped a Neumann mic to the ceiling fan so that that could add just a little bit of pizzazz.
	But no one dared show up, unfortunately.
	I get it, it's a Thursday.
	I'll try some other configurations.
	In the meantime, thank you for your courage.
	Yeah, this was a brand new meetup.
	He was trying it at his home.
	We called him a spook, of course.
	He's in Virginia.
	And next time, people go to this.
	He sounds like a cool dude.
	And he's got Neumann mics, so make sure you check that out.
	Now, always a good report coming in from the Indy folks.
	This is the Indy June meetup mix.
	This is Dame Maria.
	And this is Sir Mark.
	Rain didn't stop us to have an amazing meetup.
	And Prodigy Burger?
	Yeah, baby.
	Come to Indiana and try it out.
	Listen up, slaves.
	GMO is now called BE for bioengineering.
	Meet the new boss.
	It's the same as the old boss.
	In the morning, babe.
	An order from Indianapolis.
	Haven't had six glasses today, but it's still been good.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel.
	Thank you for your courage.
	In the morning.
	Hello, it's Christy from Carmel.
	Hi, it's Brooke from Carmel.
	Jason from Carmel.
	Sir Betty, saying hello to everybody out there.
	Goodbye.
	In the morning, swanning.
	This is Shannon from Fort Wayne.
	In the morning.
	In the morning, Sir PBR Street Gang.
	John, Adam, thank you for your courage.
	Hope to see you soon.
	Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne, having a great time in Indy.
	Thank you for your courage.
	This is Sir from the Maypole and we had a fantastic meetup today.
	Great food, great company.
	TooManyBeers.com.
	In the morning, Jon and Adam, this is Nick.
	We had a pretty fantastic time, according to Trevor.
	I would agree.
	Thank you!
	In the morning, this is Alicia.
	Good day to have a meetup inside and be a winner of the raffle.
	My name is Maggie Delaney.
	I work at Prodigy Burger Bar and I've been helping serving the No Agenda Meetup group.
	We hope that you guys keep doing this because this is a great thing you guys are doing.
	In the morning, go, go, go, go, agenda.
	I was wondering how that was going to end.
	Nice!
	Very subliminal.
	Oh, oh, oh, no, no, no agenda.
	Very nice with the Ozempic pilot.
	It's a magic tune.
	And I love that you put your server in there.
	That's the best way to do it.
	One more.
	Promo!
	Oh, yes.
	Let me guess.
	This would be a promo for one of those guys who do a meetup in Georgia.
	Because this is The Devil Went Down to Georgia, I think.
	Hello!
	Promo start now!
	Hey, North Georgia slaves, it's Bob from Cumming.
	Come join us this Thursday from 6 to 8 at Cherry Street Brew Pub at Halcyon for a monthly meetup.
	You can meet your fellow Knights, Dames, Producers, and even some douchebags over a nice cold beer.
	Look for the table with the American flag balloons to find us.
	See you there!
	And right now, as we speak, there's a meetup going on, the Berk, the Berkey, hooey, hooey, that's Albuquerque, New Mexico, that's Sir Jeff celebrating his birthday on the 20th.
	On Wednesday, the 21st, the Too Hot Tucson Solstice Soiree will be held at Canyon's Crown in Tucson, Arizona, 4 o'clock.
	Next show day, say hello to Summerpalooza 330, Riverside Park, Oshkosh, Wisconsin, and the North Georgia Monthly Meetup, as you just heard, will be at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
	Those are the meetups, but there's a lot more, including Batavia, Illinois, London, UK, Con France!
	Who's doing the Con France meeting on July 9th?
	Let us know!
	Go to knowagenthemeetups.com to find out more, and remember, connection is protection.
	you owe it to yourself to go to one.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	Triggered on hell's flame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Yeah, it is always like a party.
	story.
	And the Keeper and I are looking forward to, we are going to go on a European vacation this year.
	I think we'll be doing all the shows as scheduled.
	Might take one off, just one for a travel day, because we're going to go to Spain, we're going to go to Italy, the Netherlands, going to go see all the families, see old people before they die, you know, stuff like that.
	Yeah, sounds like a Leo trip.
	Hey, that's mean.
	What do you got for ISOs?
	I have three.
	Here's number one.
	Yes!
	5G!
	Just always can go back to the AJ well, you know?
	Or this one.
	Wow, I'm impressed.
	Okay, kind of good.
	And this is my final one.
	It was all a scam.
	Okay, well, I've gone to my well.
	Let's go with this.
	Start with God save?
	Yeah.
	God save the Queen, man.
	Yeah, man.
	Yes.
	Save the Queen, man.
	Man, man, man.
	Uh, money?
	Where's the money?
	Too boomy.
	Yeah, it's no good.
	And no.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no That's stupid.
	It's too stupid.
	It is funny.
	I don't, I don't, I'm, I'm torn now.
	But this is God Save the Queen, man.
	God Save the Queen, man.
	Maybe you have to use, I mean... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!
	That's gonna get used.
	I don't know, I'm torn, I'm torn.
	Yeah, okay, use God Save the Queen, man.
	I think God Save the Queen, man.
	Because it's just... It's kind of the man in there is what makes it work.
	Man.
	Man.
	Crazy.
	Oh, um...
	Luckily, we've been missing it.
	We got another six-week cycle.
	Did you catch the six-week cycle?
	I can't say that I have.
	A reminder for everybody.
	And I'm not on the lookout, which is an interesting point, now that you mention it.
	Well, we haven't seen it for a while.
	Well, it's been a perpetual cycle, basically.
	But the six-week cycle is something that we were read in on.
	The FBI, in particular, likes to jack somebody up.
	Technically read in on it.
	We were informed by a yes.
	Yeah, okay informed by a producer Yes informed that in order to keep their budgets and their stature and you know their quotas up the FBI Every six weeks needs to scale Runs a scam.
	Has to have some event happen so they still look like they're cool and doing stuff.
	And they usually take some, you know, mildly retarded person or someone who's on drugs and, you know, just and jack them all up and then give them some phony baloney stuff and then, you know, and of course with social media it got even easier.
	Hey man, post this.
	Yeah, what are you gonna do?
	What are you gonna do?
	Come on, post me.
	Send me a text message.
	Put it on Insta.
	In court filings, the FBI saying social media accounts tied to a Michigan man posted Nazi imagery and sent messages about planning a mass shooting at a synagogue.
	Investigators say they received a tip about those alleged threats.
	18-year-old Sean Pitella allegedly writing, Expletive this world and everything in it.
	I'm going to start making plans soon.
	Just got to buy a few more things.
	Adding, I won't be taken alive.
	I'll make sure of that.
	Federal agents say Pitella traded anti-Semitic messages on Instagram with a friend overseas.
	Writing, I just need a camera for streaming and some more magazines.
	Don't want to run out of mags and have to reload one.
	When FBI agents searched Pitella's home, court filings say they found unsecured weapons, including a 12-gauge shotgun, a rifle, a pistol.
	Unsecured weapons.
	I like that.
	That's a new offense.
	Unsecured weapons.
	So, in other words, he had a shotgun without a trigger lock on it.
	I guess.
	Or it wasn't in a safe, which, you know, who has those?
	Don't want to run out of map.
	So he's had some random shotgun laying around and this is now illegal and you're going to get thrown in the slammer.
	...traded anti-Semitic messages on Instagram with a friend overseas, writing, I just need a camera for streaming and some more magazines.
	Don't want to run out of mags and have to reload one.
	When FBI agents searched Petella's home, court filings say they found unsecured weapons, including a 12-gauge shotgun, a rifle, a pistol, plus tactical vests and a red and white Nazi flag.
	On his phone, agents say they found the name of a Michigan synagogue and a date, March 15, 2024, the same month and day as the New Zealand mosque attack in 2019 that killed 51 people.
	Authorities say Pitella admired the gunman.
	You specifically have to have a threat and also ideally even a discussion or a plan about how you're going to carry it out.
	The Anti-Defamation League says anti-Semitic incidents spiked 36% between 2021 and 2022, the highest on record in close to 50 years.
	An attorney for Petila declined to comment, but investigators say he told them he did not intend on following through with the mass killings he spoke about.
	Denying it is fine, but there may be a lot of countering information to say, well, this is not true.
	I love the Nazi flag addition.
	That's a new thing.
	The Nazi flag.
	Yeah, but, you know, they didn't get that right.
	He says it was a... White and red.
	White and red?
	Where's the black?
	Yeah, that's not a good flag.
	There's no white and red Nazi flag that I know of.
	There's no white and red in Nazi.
	Yep.
	You know, when Comey was running the place... It was more creative.
	They had better material.
	They really developed the guys.
	They had a better budget or something.
	I'm not sure what's going on.
	No, just more creative.
	They were just more creative.
	And it was more creative.
	This is lame.
	I know.
	What are you going to do?
	I think we should honor this man who passed away.
	Tonight, tributes rolling in for Daniel Ellsberg, the largely unknown Pentagon analyst during the Vietnam War, later labeled the most dangerous man in America by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
	All after Ellsberg leaked the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times and later the Washington Post.
	7,000 secret government pages showing the U.S.
	government had been misleading the public about the growing scope of America's role in Vietnam and that the military doubted its chances of victory.
	I stole nothing.
	I did not commit espionage, as indicated by the Espionage Act.
	It led to a landmark Supreme Court decision on press freedom that helped inspire a generation of investigative journalists.
	When the Nixon administration tried to stop the newspapers from publishing, the justices sided with the press.
	And criminal charges against Ellsberg were later thrown out by a judge.
	Citing, in part, a break-in by the White House plumbers at Ellsberg's former psychiatrist's office.
	Seen as a warm-up to the Watergate burglary that would bring down President Nixon.
	Yeah, so much for Julian Assange.
	So I got to meet Ellsberg.
	Oh!
	You did?
	Nice guy.
	Yeah, I chatted with him at some event they had over here in San Francisco.
	Larry Lesig brought him into some events.
	Wow, Larry.
	Good old Larry.
	So, I don't have a clip, but there was a great Cape Heart and Brooks little thing, because they go on and on about what horrible people Assange and Snowden actually are, and Ellsberg's great.
	It was just the funniest thing to watch them switch gears.
	Interesting.
	Well, that, of course, is because they got a Republican out.
	You know, the Pentagon Papers screwed Nixon somehow.
	Andrea Mitchell eludes.
	Yeah, well, kinda.
	It was embarrassing.
	That's about all it was.
	It wasn't anything people didn't know.
	Right.
	I have.
	Do you have anything you want to play us out with?
	I can play us out with a couple of clips from the Iowa meet-up, where there was actually this woman, she was on PBS of all places.
	Meet-up?
	The Iowa meet-up?
	A Noah Jenner meet-up?
	It wasn't a meet-up.
	It was a pollster.
	There's a meet-up going.
	Iowa has all these meet-ups before the elections.
	Oh.
	They have this pollster who's a famous Republican pollster.
	She's talking to Trump people.
	I have three clips and they're worth listening to.
	None of them are too long.
	Are these Mega Magas?
	Yeah, I would say they probably are.
	Iowa Pollster, PBS.
	Judy Woodruff was in Des Moines, Iowa yesterday for her America at a Crossroads reporting project to listen in on a couple of voter discussions led by conservative pollster Sarah Longwell.
	Since it was the day of the Trump arraignment, she made that the focus of the first of two reports on what Iowa Republicans are thinking.
	This was produced with our friends at Iowa PBS.
	Yeah, we should mention that Iowa is an important state because that always indicates the temperature of the nation.
	Well, these Republicans are kind of interesting because they seem to be very knowledgeable of what's going on and they're very skeptical of everything.
	They're more skeptical than the average bear, it seems to me.
	Here's clip two.
	They were very clear that the indictments actually made them want to support Trump more, which is really consistent.
	I mean, we've been asking people for several months, you know, how are you, how does it make you feel when you hear that Trump's indicted?
	Does it make you want to support him more, support him less?
	Out of the 58 people that we've asked, 26 of them said it makes them want to support Donald Trump more.
	Only two said less.
	They're a little bit mixed on whether Trump is exactly the right person to be the person who comes back, but still, after January 6th, after the indictments, after everything, still a lot of support for Donald Trump.
	They must be Nazis!
	And anyway, they go on and they talk to all these people.
	It's very interesting that people can dig it up.
	It was from last Wednesday's PBS News Hour.
	And then they had a follow-up on Thursday.
	I would go back and watch that.
	It's online.
	Now, the one that got me, though, is this.
	This is the last.
	It's a very short clip where she asked some specific questions and then they raised their hands.
	And I have to say that this is, at least I was shaking my head on this one because it was like, wow.
	That deep-seated distrust extended to the 2020 election results and their aftermath too.
	How many of you believe Joe Biden was legitimately elected President of the United States?
	How many of you believe that the election was stolen or rigged in some way?
	Okay, everybody.
	100 freaking percent.
	Everybody.
	Everybody, wow.
	Oh, that's good.
	That's good.
	Stolen.
	Stolen, you election deniers.
	Nazis.
	Horrible people.
	Someone sent me a note and said, after I heard your comments about Trump on the last episode, I'm thinking you're a liberal.
	What?
	What did you say?
	I don't know.
	You're a liberal.
	I don't think so.
	Um, oh, speaking of 100 frickin' percent, great comedian, I wish I had his name here on this clip, this is 43 seconds, you know, this is my pet peeve, everyone say 100%, 100%!
	That's 100%!
	Instead of saying absolutely, clearly, all the way, definitely, spot on, 100%!
	Instead of yes, instead of yes, people often say, they don't say yes, but they say 100%!
	Like, I ask a question and they give me statistics.
	Instead of yes, they give me the percentage of yes-ness.
	And it's always.
	And it's always 100.
	And sometimes it sounds stupid, like... It sounds like... Like, did you pay taxes?
	Yeah, 100%.
	Well, I think you paid too much.
	Thank you.
	I'm not the only one noticing this insanity, luckily.
	Ah!
	Well, happy Father's Day to you, John.
	And happy Father's Day to you.
	And happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there.
	You do important work.
	You matter.
	You're seen.
	You're heard.
	We have end of show mixes from... Let's see, who did this one?
	I wish I knew.
	It's the Armistice Day.
	We have Dee's Laughs, we have Tom Stark wearing the first one up, unedited by the way, his first mix, and Jesse Coy Nelson.
	And on the Agenda Stream, we've got the Hog Story.
	It's John Fletcher and Dame Carolyn Blaney.
	They'll be playing with their barbecue toys.
	And coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
	6, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley where tomorrow's a holiday, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Yes, enjoy your Juneteenth everybody!
	And please do remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA.
	We'll be back on Thursday with another media deconstruction just for you.
	Until then, adios mofos, a hooey hooey, and such.
	And now, I'm standing next to the president, again, next to a collapsed bridge here.
	And he is here to commit to work with the governor and the delegation to make sure that we get this fixed quick, fast as well too.
	This is a president that is committed to infrastructure.
	Yeah, and then on top of that, the Juul kind of a law of the infraction bill that is going to make sure that there's going to be bridges all across like this all across America getting rebuilt.
	Y'all watchin' people fightin' Y'all watchin' people losin' Armacist.
	Was it arm-armatist?
	Am I saying it right?
	Armus.
	No, he's not being able to say it.
	Armatist.
	Armatist?
	Armacist?
	What is it?
	What is it?
	You'll never say, I can't get it now.
	I had it as soon as you said it.
	I visualized the word, I was about to say it, and then you started... Armitice.
	Armitice.
	No, it's Armitice.
	I said it right.
	Armitice.
	There you go.
	Armitice.
	It's Armitice.
	Yes, it is.
	A-R-M-A-T-I-C-E.
	Armitice Day.
	Armitice.
	Armitice.
	Does it sound right to you?
	Yes, it does now.
	Armitice.
	That's where they signed the Armitice Agreement.
	It's Armistice.
	Armistice.
	You're right.
	Armistice.
	Armistice Day!
	You're watching people fighting.
	You're watching people losing on Armistice Day.
	That can accompany these medications can trigger temporary hair shedding and hair loss.
	The hair follicles can shrink and produce thinner and shorter strands, and this can lead to certain patterns of hair loss, male pattern hair loss, androgenic alopecia.
	The misuse can cause progressive hair loss that could become permanent.
	You have to treat the whole person, and that's what this headline is really about.
	Oh, well done!
	Well done!
	You've debunked the stupid headline, Dr. Jen.
	Keep on taking your Ozempic, people.
	Nothing to see here.
	It's all good.
	Yeah, when your hair all falls out, you're bald as a billiard.
	Don't worry about it.
	At least you're thin.
	And... Fox and Tucker costin' a split.
	CNN told Don Lemon.
	Yo, that's it.
	Pineapple on pizza is fine by me.
	Point of personal privilege and preference, indeed.
	Kamala Harris, I swish as high as a kite.
	NATO pushes the Ukraine to keep putting up a fight.
	Top your clip, stop, stop, stopping the clip.
	Love this show even when Mommy and Daddy fight.
	Elite assholes think about what you think about.
	Roy Wood was good at the Correspondents White House.
	Comics nowadays lean into the culture war, forced to play.
	No longer just for laughs, me or more.
	Intentional weight loss at a loss for word.
	Obesity's out of control.
	Olympic face is absurd, out of control.
	So many drugs to name.
	Eli Lilly and diabetes drugs are now ingrained.
	30% all in on this huge jab a shot.
	Stress test, the public, and mass formation is what we got from the outside.
	K-pop feels like a side-op.
	Politics is show business for ugly people.
	I mean, why not love the trolls?
	It never gets old.
	1800 on Thursday.
	24 on a Sunday.
	Stick around for the donations.
	Don't run away.
	The trolls are in the troll room, and there's a lot of them, which is nice.
	Yes, I'm going to write it down with a sticky note.
	I have it now.
	No, I know what it is.
	Um... It's a lovely June 18th, 2032, and celebrity trans-species influencer Zsa Zsam Duck Frog Goat gets a surprise call at home.
	OMG!
	It's President Big Mike with powerful words of support.
	What's going on?
	Tell me, what's on your mind?
	I mean, you know, I am just so proud of you being just an amazing role model and embracing your truth.
	You're already doing this, so maybe this is for some other young people that are listening.
	At your age, or in the teenage years, and probably through your twenties, you're going to be experimenting with so many versions of yourself, right?
	Next up, Vice President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
	Cortez.

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