This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media Assassination Episode 1564.
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In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the greatest play in baseball is stolen home.
I'm John C. DeVore.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
What happened to sumo wrestling? - Interesting.
The tournament doesn't start till next month.
Oh, I thought the tournament had already come and gone.
Yes.
It's six times a year.
Oh, thank goodness.
For those who missed it, we can come right back with more.
Lovely.
Just lovely.
So you're watching baseball, really?
Are you familiar with stealing a home base?
Of course.
You're on third base and then, you know, you steal the home base.
Is that not what it is?
Am I incorrect?
Yeah, but you just don't waltz over there.
No, no.
That's why it's called a steal.
I'm familiar.
I used to play baseball with the Flying Dutchman, the KLM team, in my youth.
Yes, I did.
Did you ever steal home?
No, I sucked horribly, but I played on the team.
No, I did not steal.
I think... What is the... You know, of course, I hit a ball from time to time, but what is the position where you put the worst player?
Well, either left or right field, depending.
Yeah, I think it was left field.
I could catch fly balls, though.
I could do that.
I was pretty good at that.
Well, that's good.
Yeah, but then I had to throw it and be like, boink, bounce, bounce.
Did you have to take the glove off your hand to throw it?
No, of course not.
I'm not that horrible.
I did have, um, I had two gloves.
I actually learned how to, how to throw and catch a baseball with one.
It was my grandfather's when he played for the Pawtucket.
I forget what the, uh, Rhode Island team and it had three fingers.
Old school, very, very old school glove.
And I actually, that glove was pretty good.
Had a good pocket.
I'm sorry I brought this up.
You should be.
Well, it was like deja vu all over again.
Just last month, I remember driving back from Austin, and hearing the breathless following of the former president's motorcade.
And I was driving back again from Austin, from, you know, getting my hair cut.
And again, this breathless following the president's motorcade.
And it's just, it was deja vu.
And then, but the thing that was different is although there was incessant coverage of the president, former president's motorcade, when it came to anything after that, it was like, no, no, no, we can't show this.
This is, this is just, it's too disgusting to listen to this man.
We can't hear what he, we don't care what he has to say.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
He'll show the motorcade.
Yeah.
Boring as it is.
Oh yeah.
But then when Trump says something, cut it.
Cut it!
And this looks like it's a mix of state police and Secret Service as the president.
And he will be brought into the courthouse.
He will be fingerprinted.
This is not with ink.
This is with modern, just a scan.
There will be no pictures, no mugshot taken of the former president.
There's enough on file that are anchored.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Now, so then that's all done, and then you get this.
the CNN. Jake Tapper.
National security laws and then obstructing and refusing to cooperate with the FBI.
Whatever this spectacle is that's unfolding before us, let's remember what this case is about.
Let's remember what this indictment charges.
Again, Donald Trump is charged with a series of federal felonies for mishandling the most sensitive government documents that we have and for obstruction of the most sensitive, not just the most sensitive government documents that we have and for obstruction of justice along with Walt Nauta, not just the most sensitive government documents that we have and for obstruction of justice along with Walt Nauta, who is charged with intentionally Anyway you look at this, and again, despite whatever Maybe going on in that restaurant.
This case isn't going to be settled legally in a cafe.
It's going to be settled in the court based on the facts and law.
The folks in the control room, I don't need to see any more of that.
He's trying to turn this into a spectacle, into a campaign ad.
That's enough of that.
We've seen it already.
Take it away.
It's making me nauseous.
Take it away from my eyes.
Control room.
Folks in the control room.
Wasn't quite as egregious as MSNBC.
This was, perhaps, this will go down in history.
By the way, you should stop.
And mention that what you're playing is Jake Tapper telling them to stop covering Trump.
Yeah, exactly.
On the air.
Oh, you think that's bad?
Oh no, this next clip, that was just warm-up, this next clip shows you how news works in the United States in 2023.
It's been like this for a long time, but this was truly the best from MSNBC, an NBC News product.
I need to say that former President Trump has just started making public remarks, just as he did on the evening of his first arraignment on criminal charges.
That was April, when he was booked on 34 felony counts brought by the state of New York.
Now tonight, after his arraignment on federal felony charges, he's speaking again, this time to an audience of his supporters that's gathered for a campaign fundraiser tonight at his golf club and summer home in New Jersey.
We knew heading into this, that he was planning to make these remarks.
We are prepared for his pre-fundraiser remarks tonight to again be essentially a Trump campaign speech.
Because of that, we do not intend to carry these remarks live.
As we have said before in these circumstances, there is a cost to us as a news organization to knowingly broadcast untrue things.
We are here to bring you the news.
It hurts our ability to do that if we live broadcast what we fully expect in advance.
A litany of lies and false accusations, no matter who says them.
That's right.
And I do not say this with any glee.
I hope it is clear that this is not a glib decision.
We take our responsibilities seriously.
We revisit decisions like this all the time.
We make the best call that we can in real time, every time.
But tonight, our call is this.
We will monitor that speech by the newly indicted former president.
We will not carry his remarks live.
If he says anything newsworthy, we promise we will turn that right around and bring it back to you.
Amazing!
Amazing!
All the time they spent on the motorcade.
But, you know, this is, it hurts us as a news organization, but we cannot, we just can't put lies out there, no matter who says it!
What lies did she expect to hear?
All he was doing was defending himself.
Well, I have some of those lies, if you're interested in hearing.
I have two short clips of the lies.
Lies!
The ridiculous and baseless indictment of me by the Biden administration's weaponized Department of Injustice.
We'll go down.
That's a lie.
It's a lie.
It's Department of Justice, not injustice.
It's a lie.
Take him off the air.
We'll go down as among the most horrific abuses of power in the history of our country.
Many people have said that.
Democrats have even said it.
No, no, that was you.
That was him.
It's a lie.
This vicious persecution is a travesty of justice.
These criminals cannot be rewarded.
They must be defeated.
You have to defeat them.
You have to defeat them.
Because in the end, they're not coming after me, they're coming after you, and I'm just standing in their way.
Here I am.
I'm standing in their way, and I always will be.
Lies!
Lies!
We can't have our MSNBC viewers exposed to such lies.
But wait!
There's many more lies.
We have...
A communist state.
You know, they used to use the term deep state.
I'm stopping it.
I'm using it Marxist.
I'm using it fascist.
I'm using communist.
That's a lie!
We have a democracy!
Because deep state is far too soft.
Far too soft.
At the end of the day, either the communists win and destroy America, or we destroy the communists.
We are a nation in decline, and now these radical left lunatics want to interfere with our elections by using law enforcement.
It's totally corrupt, and we can't let it happen.
This is the final battle.
With you at my side, we will demolish...
The deep state, we will expel the warmongers from our government.
We will drive out the globalists.
We will cast out the communists.
We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country.
We will roll out the fake news media.
We will expose the rhinos for what they are.
We will defeat Joe Biden and we will liberate America from these villains once and for all.
We will liberate, we're gonna liberate our country.
All lies.
And I have to say, it's like, this kind of is déjà vu as well.
I think I heard this before.
And that's what I hear from a lot of people.
Well, you know, he didn't really do it last time.
Will he do it this time?
Well, I have some counter-programming here.
Ah, you Russian spy, you.
Just to balance it out a little bit, this character called Chip Gibbons, who is an anti-espionage act specialist, hates it.
Chip, who sounds a lot like a woman, but I can't tell whether he's trans or not.
But he showed up on Amy Goodman's show.
Oh, hold on.
Play the warning.
Amy Goodman, clip inbound.
And he added a little dimensionality to this whole thing that I thought was definitely educational.
And something we should keep in mind.
Okay.
This is Chip Gibbons on the irony of the Espionage Act.
...has been used to go after traitors and spies.
It has nothing to do with a former president legally keeping his own documents.
As president, the law that applies to this case is not the Espionage Act, but very simply the Presidential Records Act, which is not even mentioned in this ridiculous 44-page indictment.
Under the Presidential Records Act, which is civil, not criminal, I had every right to have these documents.
We're joined now by Chip Gibbons, policy director of Defending Rights and Dissent, where he has advised multiple congressional offices on reforming the Espionage Act.
So, you have Donald Trump pleading not guilty to 37 charges, Chip.
Thirty-one of them related to the Espionage Act.
Can you talk about the significance of this and the significance of him walking out of court and compare it to other cases you've been involved with?
It's very significant because here we have a man who, when he was president, his administration presided over five different Espionage Act prosecutions.
Trump, in that clip you said you played, said the Espionage Act applies to traitors and spies.
Not one of those prosecutions was of a traitor or a spy.
They were of a reality winner, a whistleblower.
They were of Daniel Hale, a whistleblower who gave information about the drone program to the public because his conscience was so shocked by the civilian casualties in it.
You had Terry Albury, FBI agent who was disturbed by the domestic war on terror and the surveillance of the Muslim community and the evisceration of the Bill of Rights.
You had Joshua Schulte, who was accused and convicted of giving information to WikiLeaks, but he denies it was him.
And then you have Julian Assange, the very first time in U.S. history a journalist has been indicted under the Espionage Act.
This is good.
And I knew this was coming as I was listening to this chip person.
Um, Do you think Trump might regret not having ever helped out Assange in this case?
I hope so.
And it's always baffled us why he never did anything.
I'm disappointed that Chip here didn't mention that Assange isn't even an American.
But okay, so let's go on, and we have to remember this guy hates the Espionage Act, but he points out that Trump used it.
All of the charges against Assange pertain to 2010 to 2011 revelations about U.S.
war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S.
policies at Guantanamo And these really awful, corrupt backroom deals that the State Department was involved in.
So Donald Trump's administration loved the Espionage Act.
They didn't use it against traitors or spies.
They used it against whistleblowers, journalists, and people accused of giving information to the media.
So I think that's pretty significant in and of itself, particularly when you consider there's always been this dual-track system of justice under the Espionage Act.
Prior to the Trump case, I've always argued, and I think the Trump case complicates this, I've always argued that Espionage Act prosecutions are inherently political prosecutions, right?
If I'm in Barack Obama or George Bush's or Donald Trump's inner circle, and I go to the newspaper And I feed them classified information to promote the drone program, promote the investigation into Assange, or I go talk to Hollywood filmmakers to give them information so they can make a film whitewashing torture.
I'm not going to be prosecuted.
And the biggest leaker of U.S.
government secrets is the U.S.
government.
Everyone in Washington knows that.
But if I go and I'm a soldier in Afghanistan and I'm horrified, I'm horrified by the civilian casualties in the drone program and I watch Barack Obama on TV lie about how, for
I don't know how protective of human rights this international assassination program is, or I'm in Iraq and I'm horrified by the dehumanization of the Iraqi people and the violence inherent in that sort of neo-colonial occupation, and I go to the media with that information, they're going to prosecute me.
So, up until Trump, the Espionage Act has always been used as a sort of viewpoint discrimination-based law.
Now did Trump's DOJ, Department of Injustice, prosecute anyone under the Espionage Act?
Yeah, he mentioned all of them.
No, Reality Winner was not under Trump, was it?
I think, well we have to look that up, but I think the next guy was.
You say guy?
After Reality Winner.
Oh, yeah.
Really?
It was a guy.
It must be.
It must be true.
So, if I understand this, if you're a whistleblower, let's say you were in the Antarctic and you discovered the earthquake machine, you can go to jail for violating the Espionage Act.
Yeah.
So, just whistleblowing is bullcrap then.
You can't whistleblow.
Well, it depends on whether you produce evidence, and if you're shaking a sheet of classified paper and you whistleblow based on that, that's when they throw the book at you.
But I think they throw the book at you anyway.
These whistleblowers have not done well for themselves.
No.
I mean, every one of them has gone on about how bad an idea it is.
Like Benny.
Oh, Benny and Thomas Drake.
Yeah.
Classic.
Drake's the one who came out and says, do not talk to the FBI.
Right.
And they're legitimate whistleblowers.
The whole whistleblowing idea is a sham.
Yeah.
But let's listen to part three of this.
By the way, this could have gone on for a while.
This guy talked and talked.
He also mentioned that He is of the opinion that Trump's actually just an obverse side of a deep state coin.
Citing, for example, that he's the one who broke the embargo on selling arms to Ukraine.
We forget that.
Oh really?
You know, it's interesting because when I look at the troll room, I see people saying this.
Like, he's part of the system!
That's what they say about Trump.
If you recall, Obama refused to send anything to Ukraine.
That's correct.
And it became a point of contention.
And then when Trump got in, he started sending them arms.
Yeah.
Lest we forget.
But it must have been the wrong kind because everyone got all bent out of shape about his phone calls with Ukraine.
You know, he wasn't selling the right ones or he wasn't giving old stuff so we could buy new things.
He did it wrong.
Whatever he did, he didn't do it the right way.
Well, I think an early theory of yours, which is that he was always representing the DIA as opposed to the CIA.
Yes.
Uh, might have something to do with it.
Might make sense, yeah.
Okay, well let's go to three.
And that's why they got Flynn pushed out of the way as fast as they could.
Oh man, it just gets deeper.
It's deeper.
Because it's an extremely broad law, right?
I mean, under the letter of the Espionage Act, if I read in the Washington Post that the CIA thought that Ukraine might bomb the Nord Stream Pipeline, and I tweet that, I text that, I just talk about it to a barista, I've violated the Espionage Act, right?
Your previous guest was mentioning the difference between Biden, Pence's, and Trump's conduct, and I think that's absolutely correct, but under the breath of the Espionage Act, you know, Pence and Biden, you know, did violate it, just like Trump did violate it for those documents he returned.
But because it's such a broad, basically unconstitutional law, it's applied with a lot of limitations put on it.
So it's an incredible moment in U.S. history that we have a president who is finally being held accountable under the Espionage Act, as opposed to sort of whistleblowers and journalists who expose the U.S. national security state.
And while that is sort of a step away from the dual system of justice we've seen under the Espionage Act, I have to stress, I don't think the Espionage Act, as drafted, is a legitimate tool.
I don't think it should be used to prosecute anyone.
Well, that's pretty decent there on Democracy Now!
Thank you.
That's good counter-programming.
I thought it was educational.
Kind of like a splash of water.
But surprising.
Surprising you would hear that on Democracy Now!
And it kind of begs the question, like, are there two sides of the deep state at war?
CIA, DIA?
Do we go back to that theory?
And the FBI's involved in there somehow, but I think they've teamed up with the CIA.
Well, the CIA runs them, as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, it's probably true.
They're the national honeypot guys.
They know how to do that.
Well, something's up.
Well, there's something that popped up on the CIA broadcasting systems, Pixie Girl over there, Harridge, and it, I mean, yeah, so they're discussing these documents and, you know, we know that it's so interesting to hear senators and Congress people saying, well, you know, I've seen the documents, I can't discuss them with you.
And then you hear, you know, everyone just talking about them, you know, these read-in journalists.
Well, he had the plans for the invasion of Iran.
I can understand why that's an issue, but still doesn't mean that, you know, this is Espionage Act material.
But there's a term in here that I had not heard.
Well, I've heard half of the term, but I never heard the full term in light of We're in the context of any type of national security and special stuff that we don't want anyone to know, and Pixie Girl had it.
Catherine, you've been doing reporting about the risk assessment about just what was in these documents.
Educate us on that.
Well, what jumps out to me, John, is when you go to the section on the willful retention of national defense information.
By my count, there are 21 top-secret documents, and the disclosure of... Wait a minute.
First of all, I saw nothing but boxes and boxes and boxes.
There are only 21?
Did you see all those boxes?
The room is full of boxes.
There's boxes in the bathroom, there's boxes in the ballroom.
Only 21, okay!
And in one room they'd even tossed a box, which irked Trump.
He talked about it.
He said, why'd they throw this box on the floor?
Well, what jumps out to me, John, is when you go to the section on the willful retention of national defense information.
By my count, there are 21 top-secret documents, and the disclosure of top-secret information has the expectation of exceptionally grave damage to national security.
But what stands out to me is some of the classified codings, like TK or Talent Keyhole.
You don't see that very often.
That's about Intelligence from overhead imagery.
For example, if we're looking at a terrorist target, do we have such good visibility that we can count the hairs on their head?
Can we see what they're eating for breakfast on their terrorist patio?
Those are capabilities that we don't want our adversaries to know that we have.
They do know, but did you catch the name of it?
Yeah, Keyhole, whatever.
Talent Keyhole?
Yeah.
Well, that's what Google bought from In-Q-Tel.
Google bought Keyhole that became Google Maps.
Oh, yeah, that's good.
How about that, huh?
So this Keyhole thing is a little bigger than we thought, and what did they actually buy?
Did they get a Jip?
I mean, all they got is a bunch of cars driving around.
Those are capabilities that we don't want our adversaries to know that we have.
But now they know thanks to you.
Yeah, exactly.
This whole thing makes no sense and what she just said makes even less sense.
Terrorist patio.
Those are capabilities that we don't want our adversaries to know.
And by the way, is it marked the terrorist patio?
Is it like, does a talent keyhole have a little badge?
This is a terrorist patio instead of like, you know, a normal patio.
Then also special access programs or SAP.
These are highly restricted programs because of the sensitivity of the intelligence and the technology, such as stealth technology, for example.
Think of classified information like the Pentagon.
Special access programs are these handful of rooms where there's just a limited number of keys to control and restrict access to that information.
So it's not just secret.
It's the top of the top of the top.
Some of these are way beyond top secret.
Like I said, telling keyhole when you're talking about special access programs or SCI sensitive compartmentalized information.
These really are the crown jewels of the U.S.
intelligence community.
Okay, so this has got to be the CIA who were pissed off about this.
This is, you know, the CIA, the intelligence... Crown jewels, give me a break.
Well, yeah, and she's read in.
She's obviously read in.
No one was, no one was able, the only person who said talent keyhole as far as I could find was, uh, was Ms.
Harridge here.
But that was pretty interesting.
What do I have here?
There's a lot of coded messaging going on here.
Yeah, like we have this, we've seen this, we know this.
Something like that.
I think we're back to CIA, DIA.
Clearly the CIA has the upper hand over the media.
Oh yeah, well no, they run it.
Here's ABC short reports.
One of the complaints you're hearing from Republicans, this is selective prosecution.
They say that Hillary Clinton wasn't charged.
Joe Biden hasn't been charged.
Mike Pence hasn't been charged, although he's a Republican.
What are the differences?
So Biden, Pence fall into one category, which is it was a mistake.
It was an error.
If Donald Trump had turned over, as he did, some of the initial documents, we wouldn't be here.
He wasn't charged for any of the documents.
Correct, correct.
So he turned over the initial documents, some of them were highly classified, he wasn't charged.
That's comparable to Biden and Pence.
Now, Hillary Clinton's a little bit of a different story, but they thoroughly investigated that case, and what they didn't find is that she was doing it on purpose.
Yes, she had the server on purpose, but there was no evidence that she specifically and intentionally was trying to obstruct justice.
They found, after a thorough investigation there, that they just couldn't prove that.
And of course, Donald Trump's team was leading the Justice Department for the last four years when they could have investigated that and charged her if there was a case.
Dan Abrams, thanks very much.
Wow, so good, so good.
Oh, Trump's stupid.
He should have gotten her.
He had the Justice Department, he should have prosecuted her.
There's a little irony in the way they presented that, which is that Hillary, because Trump wasn't the prick that Biden is... Or whoever, I wouldn't even say it's Biden.
Or one of the many Bidens.
Whoever that guy was on the lawn.
That guy was not Biden.
That guy was not Biden, for sure.
Yeah, so the whole thing is odd.
It doesn't seem like any of this will stay.
I mean, clearly what they did is they, you know, those pictures of all the boxes, that was in the indictment, that was in the filing.
So that was put in there to, you know, clearly to get the grand jury to indict.
Juice it up.
Yeah, yeah, juice it up, exactly.
Look at all these boxes.
But the whole Biden, it's not going over well.
It's not an answer.
And everybody's doing it.
Yeah, but can't you see what Biden's doing?
It's not an answer.
And the woman who I guess wants to be Trump's running mate, Carrie Lake, she just jumped on this like crazy.
You know, she's the number one now on iTunes.
With, uh... Oh, this I do not know.
Oh, man.
Oh, you haven't even heard of this.
No, I'm in the dark about Carrie Lake.
Oh, well, let me play the, um... It's Carrie Lake.
Let me see.
It's, uh, what is it called?
It's called, uh, 70... 81 million, seven... 81 million votes my ass.
Here, hold on a second.
This is number one on all the charts!
Great title.
It's kind of catchy.
And there's a video to go with it, you know.
If you would have told me two years ago, three years ago, that I would be in the middle of a political movement, I would have said, put down Hunter's Crack Pipe.
Right now.
Right now.
I can't afford the groceries.
I can't afford your gas.
It's by depletion across the nation.
81 million votes my ass!
So that's number one everywhere.
iTunes, Spotify, everyone's loving the 81 million votes, my ass.
And she is just out of control.
Here she is, I'm Pierce Morgan.
I want to play a clip, this is from you, I believe on Friday, talking about what may happen.
If you want to get to President Trump, you're going to have to go through me, and you're going to have to go through 75 million Americans just like me.
And I'm going to tell you, yep, most of us are card-carrying members of the NRA.
That's not a threat.
That's a public service announcement.
We will not let you lay a finger on President Trump.
Frankly, now is the time.
Frankly, now is the time to cling to our guns and our religion.
That's pretty incendiary stuff, Carrie, to suggest that you've all got your guns and you're going to use them to defend Donald Trump.
That's not what I said.
I am using my freedom of speech to say that we support President Trump.
Millions, hundreds of millions of Americans do.
You guys will always defend Antifa and the people burning... Can you please stop saying you guys?
What do you mean, you guys?
You think I've got anything in common with Don Lemon, really?
Have you watched my show?
So stop calling me, you, the media!
Oh, there's a lot of things going on in that clip.
Uh, yeah, a couple of things.
Just one clarification.
When she says 75 million people and most of us are card-carrying members of the NRA.
No, that's far from the truth.
The number of NRA members is 4.3 million.
Yeah, that's far, far from the truth.
It's less than a tenth.
Yeah.
But you see what she's doing.
She must be vying for a running mate status with that.
I can't see why...
I mean, it's Riley- it's not ultimately- I don't think this is good.
Boots it up.
It's just some kind of- well, there was more!
I sure wish they would share what these documents are.
They're being very mum about what's in them.
I'm really curious about what's in- What do you mean?
What do you mean?
It's Talon Keyhole!
It's, uh, we know exactly what it is.
It's all kinds of good stuff.
I sure wish they would share what these documents are.
They're being very mum about what's in them.
I'm really curious about what's in them.
And Pierce, there's more evidence of wrongdoing and crime, frankly, on Hillary Clinton's servers.
There's more evidence of crime in Joe Biden's garage, in those boxes, where he had no ability to declassify those documents because he was a senator and a vice president.
And frankly, there's more evidence of a crime on Monica Lewinsky's dress than in those boxes.
Come on, come on now.
She gets a point for that one.
This is a bogus case.
And you know what it is?
It's really just a way, Pierce, to give cover to Joe Biden, who just this week we found out took another $5 million bribe and payout from the CCP.
And we have 17 recordings of him, according to Senator Grassley.
On tape being recorded taking bribes and payouts from Ukraine.
This is a distraction to give you and the media something to talk about so you don't have to talk about the crimes Joe Biden commits.
Well, and that's that's the whole conversation.
Trump's crooked.
He's put our people at risk.
Biden, you know, we got tape.
Hunter's got a crack pipe.
It's just, it's not helpful.
Well, I think it's great.
Now, you got nothing to lose.
We have a couple more things to note.
Yeah.
They are taking some sides on this.
And we've already seen Bill Barr.
I don't have the clip I just had on the last show.
Bill Barr saying that Trump's toast.
Is that from the last show?
It was pre last show, yeah.
Bill Barr was on with the blonde, the pretty blonde, Shannon.
Shannon Bream.
And she was like, oh, what?
And he's going, oh, no, he's dead.
They got him.
He's toast.
What would you have titled that clip?
I didn't.
I know.
I never.
I didn't bring it.
Oh, OK.
I'm sorry.
I thought you.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
No.
So then Trump comes out and says Bill Barr's a lowlife.
And that sets off One of the Fox guys, I can't remember his name offhand, but the guy that always wears the glasses and he looks over the glasses and he talks kind of like this all the time.
Very erudite.
The guy at night?
He's looking over his glasses and he's talking like this.
People are not watching Fox News anymore.
MSNBC is now beating them in the ratings.
But he got all bent out of shape about him being called a lowlife.
Something of an extreme, I thought.
So I was kind of concerned about that.
And then we had Nikki Haley saying that he's toast, so she's done.
And then we had Pence come out and say he's done.
This is, let's just look at the sides.
Nikki Haley, who was ambassador to the United Nations, she's got to be CIA.
You just have to, you know, Barr, come on, CIA.
And let's not forget his dad who, you know, got Epstein started.
Hello.
I think this, we're back to the IA wars.
It feels like it.
So, but, you know, what is going to happen?
And what is going to happen?
Here's the one that the latest guy who jumped into the fray.
Can I have a clip?
Yep.
Bolton.
Oh, the fart sniffer.
Okay.
All right.
Now, he's running, isn't he?
Didn't he announce he's running?
I don't know that he is.
I know that Pompeo, who also jumped on Trump... CIA?
Who is, duh, a CIA, you think?
So Pompeo jumped on the anti-Trump bandwagon, but Bolton, I think, is the best.
And Bolton expresses, they all say pretty much what Bolton says in this clip.
Republican responses to former President Trump's indictment fall several ways.
Trump is denouncing it and saying he's innocent, although photographs show many cartons of documents in his home.
Many cartons?
The indictment says many contain... That proves he's guilty?
Wait, stop!
Guilty!
Cartons!
He used the word, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, that means you're guilty.
Trump says he's innocent, though, as if the cartons themselves proved his guilt.
Well, that's what the indictment showed.
This is NPR, by the way.
No, no, PBS, PBS.
It says it's PBS, but it's NPR.
Oh, okay.
Well, that explains it.
Wait, wait, stop.
Let me think.
It might be.
No, it might be PBS because I'm visualizing.
Wait, you're telling me there's a difference between NPR and PBS?
Come on.
What difference does it make?
Republican responses to former President Trump's indictment fall several ways.
Trump is denouncing it and saying he's innocent, although photographs show many cartons of documents in his home.
The indictment says many contained sensitive military secrets.
Several Republican presidential candidates are attacking the Federal Justice Department, even though they want to replace Trump as the party leader.
Some candidates say the indictment is serious, as do some former members of the Trump administration.
Former Attorney General William Barr told Fox the indictment is strong, and we have reached John Bolton, the President's one-time National Security Advisor.
Ambassador, welcome back.
Glad to be with you.
You've handled a lot of classified documents in your time.
What do you see in this indictment?
I see big trouble for Donald Trump.
I think this is a potentially catastrophic turn of events for him.
It certainly should be.
Yeah, trouble!
Trouble!
Can you imagine if Bolton was president?
What a fab president that guy would be.
Hello.
Hello, America.
He says it should be, so he's already taken sides.
Well, that guy is again... He hated Trump.
Why didn't Trump ever... This is the problem we've had with Trump since the beginning.
Yeah, he hires the wrong people.
He's bad.
He hires idiots or shitheads like this guy.
Yeah, he's quick to fire, but then the damage is already done.
Clip two.
So is there more to this clip?
No, but there's two more clips.
Oh, that's what it is.
Part two.
Because if proven in trial, and of course that is the government's burden, but if proven at trial, it should put Trump in jail for a long time.
You know, there's thousands, tens of thousands of people in the federal government who have security classifications, and when they deviate even the slightest amount, and it's found out, they face severe penalties if their service members are discharged from the service.
We have to hold everybody accountable equally and that does not exclude the president.
So I think this is a real issue that's going to have profound impact on our national security if we don't take it seriously.
We should emphasize we've seen the photographs.
and the former president himself has not denied having the documents.
So the question really, if any, is whether he, as a former president, had a right to them.
Of the various arguments that Trump has advanced, can you imagine any that would work in which a former president has some special latitude here?
Well, if Trump had followed standard procedures, if anybody could have trusted him with the documents, if he wanted to write a book about his time as president, there were procedures that could have been set up.
He disregarded all of those.
Which is how the National Archives eventually took this case to the Justice Department.
But it's the obstruction, it's the refusal to give back the documents when they were demanded by subpoena and through extensive discussions about what was required.
That's what tips this over the edge beyond any doubt.
And I think anybody who tries to say that somehow this isn't serious, this is a storage issue are probably people who have never handled a classified document in their lives, don't understand what's at stake here.
And it really is a national security issue.
And Trump has displayed utter disdain for these constraints.
He did so.
I saw it over and over again when he was president.
The conduct that's alleged by the indictment is entirely believable to me. - This is all hyperbole.
So, what he's saying, he's saying, oh, it wasn't just that he had the documents, but that he wouldn't give them back, as if it's the only copy, first of all, please.
Yeah.
It's not, like, there's copies everywhere of this stuff.
Now, is there, I just want, is it your understanding that he Leaked this information and told people who did not have appropriate clearance?
Supposedly when they did their sweep of everybody they could find, he told a fellow golfer.
Oh, that's where the joke comes from.
Yeah.
Even though we've known since 2001 that the plan is to arrest Clark, arrest General Wesley Clark.
He spilled the beans that we're going to invade Iran.
He said it publicly.
He had that classified information.
Good point.
I mean isn't that the same thing?
I think it's the same thing.
Now there's another element here which Trump kind of brings and they don't like to discuss it.
Trump has the, as president, and Bolton kind of brought up here, well, if he'd gone through channels, if Trump had done this, that, and the other thing, he could have taken these documents home for his book.
But what Trump says is, hey, they work for me!
I was the executive, I was the president.
Yeah.
Why do I have to take orders from someone that works for me?
They're my underlings.
I'm supposed to give them orders.
And Bolton has it just the other way around, which I believe, because Bolton was a member of the administrative state, and having worked for it myself, I will admit.
You were a spook?
Not as a spook.
I've never been a spook, and that's why this show is so good.
Because I don't have... I'm not covered by any confidentiality of anything.
Neither are you.
Nope.
And so we can analyze all we want.
In fact, we know that my family has actually kicked me out of the room because I didn't have clearance.
That's right.
This has happened to you.
We can't talk about this.
And you've never been read into anything?
No.
I haven't been read in, but we know enough that we can analyze without having to violate anything, which makes it safe.
The point is that the administrative state really thinks they're on the show.
Well, they do!
I guess they do!
And they're proving it.
Yes, except for this judge.
You know, Trump might get locked up?
The judge, oh man, they don't like this judge.
No, no one likes the, well... They're going after her.
Oh, you know, she's the one who put, if you remember, she's the one who came up with the special master.
I don't remember.
Yeah, when they did the raid.
In Mar-a-Lago there was a brouhaha over it and she was brought in and she said you have to have to go over these documents because they were just going throwing boxes on the floor and everything else you could see.
You have to have a special master.
Remember the special master?
Yeah, kind of rings a bell.
Yeah, so she demanded a special master and then the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals said, no, you're an idiot!
And they kicked it back.
And so now everyone's citing this as she's an idiot.
Because the 11th Court refused and so she's under scrutiny.
But there's two things that they have, there's two holes I can see that if she was at any ball she'd do this.
One was the original search warrant was very dubious.
Yeah.
And the second one... It's all technical stuff.
It's all technical stuff.
It's all technical stuff.
The second one is having one of Trump's attorney violate the attorney-client privilege Uh, because the judge said he could.
This, this has got to be thrown out.
Yeah.
And that, if that gets thrown out, the whole case goes.
But you know, we have, look, the only thing that's kind of good is Trump has money, I think, if he still has some.
He's got plenty.
Because he can fight this.
I mean, it's like, Um, you know, I've had IRS stuff in the past and they say, well, you can't deduct that.
And, you know, and I clearly could, but the bottom line is if I wanted to go fight it, I need a hundred thousand dollars to take it to court.
Yeah.
So you can save 10.
Yeah, exactly.
So, you know, this is the problem.
Oh, you win.
Yeah.
That's yes.
So that's kind of the problem.
And I, I, I don't know.
I mean, there's, uh, It's not working out well for anybody.
The system.
The system is so deeply corrupt.
So just everything is broken.
And I just don't see Carrie Lake as being helpful.
I love it.
So, yeah, the system's corrupt and it's always, everything, we always have to remember that the first thing you learn in poli-science class, college, is that the president sets the standard for ethics in the country.
Yeah.
And that's why blowjobs became so important after Bill Clinton.
After Bill Clinton!
And they're not sex, don't forget that, girls.
Nope, nope.
And Biden is a corrupt president.
He's just obviously corrupt and it's being reflected everywhere.
You're so right.
Do we have a third Bolton clip here?
Yeah.
Again, the government has to prove it and I hope they do it soon.
I think one real issue here is how quickly this goes to trial.
You know, Donald Trump says he's completely innocent.
Well, if he's completely innocent, he should want this stain on his reputation removed as soon as possible.
An innocent person would say, I want a trial in a couple of months.
Let's see what Donald Trump does.
And of course, if it goes beyond a couple of months, we're in the presidential primary season.
Why, given what you've said, Ambassador, why do you think that Ron DeSantis, one of Trump's rivals for the nomination, is attacking the Justice Department over this indictment?
Well, I think it's a mistake.
I think actually DeSantis the other day made a very important point, which was when he was in the Navy Judge Advocate General's Court handling classified information.
If he had done a portion of what Trump is alleged to have done, he would have been court-martialed.
That's the standard to make.
And I think for Republicans, look, take it for granted that there's a double standard.
Take it for granted.
Democrats don't prosecute Democrats.
Believe all that, that Hillary should have been prosecuted, Joe Biden should be prosecuted, and they weren't, and that's an injustice.
Accept that for the sake of argument, and then ask these candidates the question, does that mean you give Donald Trump a free pass?
Is your answer to the double standard problem to have no standard at all?
You know, Republicans used to believe that if you didn't prosecute criminals, you'd have more crime, and I think that insight was right then, and it's right now.
Oh, boy.
President Bolton, thank you.
President-elect Bolton, we're so pleased to have you.
Well, let's just talk about the system then, because the system is weaponizing everything, in particular children.
Did you see the Chonies?
You're a theater maven, did you see the Chonies?
Yeah, and I do have one commentary.
Yes, about the Chonies?
No, it was the worst, probably one of the worst, uh... I didn't get the clip of the woman going off.
I got one clip.
Okay.
I got the clip.
I'll play that clip and then I'll tell you what I think.
This is Denise Benton, actress Denise Benton, and... Yeah, couldn't keep her mouth shut.
Well, it's like, well, you know, it doesn't matter if it's Trump or DeSantis or DeSantos.
They're all racists.
Hi.
Hi, I'm Denae Benton, actor.
Thank you.
And proud CMU alum. - Woo!
Earlier tonight, CMU and the Tony Awards presented the 2023 Excellence And while I am certain that the current Grand Wizard, I'm sorry, excuse me, Governor, of my home state of Florida, will be changing!
Now, the whole crowd goes wild!
They're on their feet!
They're pumping their fists in the air!
Yeah!
He's a racist!
A racist, I tell you!
A racist!
I mean, it was really disappointing as a fan of the theater.
Well, you know, a couple of things should be noted.
One is the numbers, the box office numbers are way down.
Yeah.
And these awards didn't help any.
Now, the best play, I want to read this.
This is an example.
Both the Best Play and the Best Musical have lost money.
But the Best Play was, I guess, a complete turkey.
But it wins!
And it's called Kimberly Akimbo is the name of the play.
Now I just want to read from the wiki page what this play's about.
This is a play written, and I want to say, do you think they're packing them in to go see this particular play?
It's a play written in 2000 by David Lindsey Hebert.
It's title character is a lonely teenage girl suffering from a disease similar to Progeria that causes her to age four and a half times as fast as normal, thus trapping her inside the frail physical body of an elderly woman.
She meets another misfit, a college or a teenage boy, and the two form an attachment to one another that borders on attraction.
But their situation is not helped by Kimberly's rapidly deteriorating health, soon Kimberly's family gets mixed up in some crazy money schemes, and the family is emotionally destroyed.
Oh man.
Who wants to see this?
It doesn't say, you know, just doesn't say cabaret, you know.
It's just not something you're gonna go watch.
And they're celebrating this.
They have gone off the rails.
They've lost the plot.
They're celebrating ageism?
Sounds like?
I'm not quite sure.
Well, that I don't even know what the point of it is.
But why would that get best?
There's nothing.
Broadway is dead on its feet right now because the talent is gone.
Where did the talent go?
I mean, the musical, which was done by Tom Stoppard, his last piece probably, is probably acceptable.
But the rest of it is just... and the arrogance of these people.
They go up there and just accuse everyone who doesn't like them.
Of being a Ku Klux Klan.
And renaming the town in Florida to Plantation, Florida.
Yeah.
I mean, and for a black woman to do this, it's messed up.
I mean, it's one thing for De Niro to go up there.
It's inexcusable.
Yeah, De Niro, like, I hate Trump, I'll sock him in the face.
Okay, tough guy, great.
But this is just, there's not even any evidence of racism.
Oh my God, I hear it everywhere.
Oh, Florida, most racist state.
When did this happen?
It happened when the NAACP said it's a dangerous place to go despite the fact that the head of the NAACP lives in Florida.
So it's just everything being weaponized.
I'm surprised they're still pulling race in.
I mean, why didn't they just do, you know, Ronny hates gays.
I mean, that's what they should do.
That's the trip now.
He hates children.
They need their gender-affirming care.
By the way, do you know that kids, kids, little kids, who are claiming to be non-binary is now up 4,000% in New Jersey.
It's everywhere.
I heard, I got a note from one of our producers, he's a doctor, and it was, no, it's a dentist, and we were talking about my teeth or whatever, and going back and forth, he says, you know, I use the term kiddo because I have at least 40 patients Children who are, you know, non-binary or transgender.
Kids!
40!
He says, doesn't seem like a lot out of a thousand patients.
I said, yes it does.
Seems like a lot to me.
Yeah, this is unheard of.
Anyway, so there's an attack going on and it's the system, okay?
It's not... People get wrapped up.
We know lots of people who are on the LGBT kids train.
They're not bad people.
They're sucked into the system and they're brainwashed and they take authority as... Authority!
Oh, a guy with a lab coat says it.
Oh, something association, somebody with pediatrics in the name says it.
Hey, they were right about COVID.
No.
Well that's what they think.
It's hilarious.
We still have people wearing masks alone in their car driving around even and you saw it in Austin again yeah it's baffling baffling.
Yeah they're in their car today three years after the fact.
They're still driving around with a mask in their car by themselves.
So this stuff has been going on for a long time and I'm going to show, I have a couple of clips here that I want to play.
The first one is the pronouns nonsense, which is just nonsense.
And again, can I, can I play a couple of talk clips before you get to talk?
Of course, of course.
Man, are we quick.
Talk is up.
Well, let's start with, I do have a pronoun clip, but first let's listen from Blossom to tell us off about everything because we're all screwed up.
Well, Blossom does Jeopardy now, so she's allowed to do it.
Well, there's a different Blossom.
I'm sorry.
Female are not genders.
If you don't know who I am, my name's Blossom.
I use them pronouns in English, en espanol, y en français.
And while anybody can self-identify their gender, so if they want to use that language for their gender, they can.
Male and female, as well as intersex, are terms that are most typically associated with sex, not with gender.
When we're talking about gender, we're talking about woman, man, and all of the identities that fall within being non-binary, and...
Androgen, femme of center, mask of center, agender, gender fluid, and there are so many more!
So, if you are in charge of a form that says gender, and then it says male and female, first of all, you're erasing intersex people.
Second of all, those are not terms associated with gender, they are terms associated with sex.
And I'll tell you, if Blossom was on the Tony Awards, I would have watched that show.
I'd go see Blossom on stage.
That sounds like a hoot!
And then we have the pronoun person that is using the pronouns Faye and Pup.
Fae is one of my newer pronouns.
So I use they, fae, and pup pronouns currently.
And fae for me is because I am a faerie.
I am faerie gender.
And fae is really just validating for that part of my identity.
So yeah, fae pronouns cause I'm faerie.
Hope it helps.
Yeah, that's a bad clip.
And that, yeah, that clip was not as good.
But the Blossom clip was good.
But then the last one is actually Michelle and the transsexual.
Well, this is Dwayne Wade's son.
Son, who's a girl now.
Well, that's been going on for a while.
Mo and I did quite a piece on this.
Yeah, what do you know about it?
Well, it was all part of, his wife is really the one who pushed this kid into it, and she is an actress, if I'm recalling correctly.
She's a former, I don't know if she acts anymore.
On that show, what show was it?
Not Glee, it's the...
One of those, one of those non-binary type shows.
And, you know, just really kind of, what Mo says is, you know, this is, was part of the psy-op on black Americans.
And, you know, this clip, of course, I interpreted this perhaps differently than some people, but she now, what's the kid's name?
I don't know.
Is talking to Michelle Obama.
I'm not even sure what the circumstance is, but it's over Zoom, and it's an odd exchange.
Right there.
What's on your mind?
What do you want to know?
What do you want to talk about?
Yes, I actually do want to talk to you about, I wanted to ask you one question about your book, which by the way, I have read and I love it.
Divine.
Divine.
Okay, and if my kid would talk like that, I don't care if that's my kid's assigned at birth or not, I'm like, you're not talking like that.
Divine.
Divine.
Which, by the way, I have read and I love it.
Divine.
And yes, so I wanted to ask you, what advice do you have for teens who want to be themselves and thrive like you have and currently are?
Well, like you have and currently are.
Yeah, nice deflection.
I am just so proud of you, you know, being just an amazing role model and embracing your truth, right?
You're already doing this, so maybe this is for some other young people that are listening.
I feel.
But let me just.
It does take time to know what you.
What's on your mind?
What do you want to know?
What do you want to talk about?
Yeah, see, this was so weird.
First of all, this is a very privileged child, no matter what gender.
Privileged child, very privileged.
And Michelle Obama also grew up privileged.
She just had no struggle.
Her mom worked at a bank, you know.
In fact, Tina worked at the same bank that her mom worked at back in the day in Chicago.
And you know what?
I need to read the book, Becoming Michelle Obama, and then I can comment on it.
I will.
I read Sarah Palin's book, so I should read Michelle Obama's book.
But the way I read this, it was a deflection, where this kid's going, well, we know the word on the street is Michelle, you're trans, so could you please tell me how you, it was divine how you wrote about it, how you became yourself.
That's my interpretation.
That's what the main interpretation is.
I don't think yours is off the wall.
No!
Big Mike 2024.
So let's talk about pronouns for a second.
Which, you know, and if someone It upsets the balance between children and parents.
It is not a good idea.
It is also incorrect grammar most of the time.
It is also a lie.
And if someone says my pronouns are, my response will be, do not worry.
I will not be talking about you to other people.
And that's just, that's it.
Now, I've never had someone tell me their pronouns.
It hasn't occurred to me.
But I have heard children say this to parents, and it's jarring.
But it's been going on for a while, and of course it's been rammed down everyone's throat in the media, in entertainment.
Star Trek Discovery, I don't watch.
But the stress signal must include an encoded message of some kind.
Adira can write an algorithm that can find and decode it.
How long will that take?
Not more than a few hours.
She's pretty fast.
Update me the moment you have something, Commander.
Of course.
They're fast.
Who?
Um, they.
They are fast.
They, not she.
I've never felt like a she or her, so I would prefer they or them from now on.
*music* Okay.
Now this is Adira saying this to them's superior, and that's accepted?
So, that's the kind of, and this is years old, this is two, three years ago, so this stuff has been going on, it's been promoted, and it is part of an absolute system to upset the world, certainly the United States, although things seem to be cranking up a bit in other countries, oddly enough.
They're trying.
Yeah, they're succeeding.
The Netherlands is becoming a little weird now, unexpectedly.
But it's entering into law, California, at the local level, which I think is much more important than the presidential race.
So, squirrel on who's going to be the president.
This is one of your guys up there.
What is his name?
Senator Scott Wilk, a Republican, I'm sure one of the few, in the California State Senate.
I'm now in year 11 in the state legislature, and all the time we're proposing policies to protect children.
After 11 years, I've come to the conclusion that we need to start protecting parents.
That is just not happening.
I've been here and witnessed a full frontal assault on charter schools, taking away parents' choice in how their children are going to be educated, to the detriment particularly of children of color.
In recent years, we have put government bureaucrats between parents, children, and doctors when it comes to medical care.
And now we have this, where if a parent does not support the ideology of the government, they're going to be taken away from the home.
Now, I agree with both Senator Wiener and Senator Laird that today, it only involves divorce proceedings.
And frankly, a judge can already factor this in.
But I can assure you, it's not going to end with divorce proceedings.
In the past when we've had these discussions and I've seen parental rights atrophied, I've encouraged people to keep fighting.
I've changed my mind on that.
If you love your children, you need to flee California.
You need to flee.
We are moving towards the pathway of the Handmaid's Tale.
California's becoming the new Juliette.
And it just breaks my heart.
I was born and raised in this state.
I love this state.
I'm not going to stay in this state because it's just too oppressive.
And I believe in freedom, and so I'm going to move to America when I leave the legislature.
So what is going on here is if you don't listen to your child when they say, my pronouns are, your child can be taken away from you by Child Protective Services, apparently, or that in the case of a divorce.
But that's just a start.
This is not OK.
No, this is the stuff that's promoted by Scott Wiener.
He mentioned him in there.
Yeah.
He's a radical left winger from San Francisco, a gay advocate, and he's totally on the side of the trans.
He's not a, you know, you'd think he wouldn't be, but he doesn't get it.
And this is going on.
Because it's political.
He doesn't care.
It's the thing you're supposed to say.
No, it's totally political.
It used to be Black Lives Matter.
Where did that go?
Black people all taken care of.
It's all good, everybody.
Black Lives Matter.
Which, as we know, was run by trained Marxists.
So I'm going to get into the Marxists.
Admit it.
Admit it?
Yeah, it's not a secret.
Not a secret.
No, they were proud of it.
But, you know, they blew up, as often happens.
Well, they got money.
They got money.
Marxists with money never works.
Yeah, it never works out well.
But we have a passing of the torch, and the United States is a firm target once again.
It may not be quite as dramatic as the TV show Succession, but George Soros has made a decision to hand over his $25 billion empire to his 37-year-old son, Alex, despite saying in the past he didn't want one of his five kids to succeed him.
When asked about his U-turn, the 92-year-old philanthropist said his son had earned it.
Alex Soros has said he is more political than his father and plans to continue helping left-leaning causes.
But at the same time he said, our side has to be better about being more patriotic and inclusive.
Just because someone votes Trump doesn't mean they're lost or racist.
This is interesting.
So he's trying to bring everybody in under the same tent and what will he do that with?
He'll do it under the two issues that people are most afraid of being on the wrong side of because of just how it's been culturally changed.
Yeah, so Alex Soros has obviously been involved at least recently.
What more do we know about him?
Well he's got a PhD in history, he's 37 so still pretty young and he has said by his own admission that he has broadly the same political views as his father but that he is more political and for example that he is going to actively campaign against Donald Trump's attempt to run as a second term for US President.
He says, for example, that he shares a lot of the same ideas around democracy that his dad does.
That includes, for example, a commitment to try and pursue freedom of speech, criminal justice reform, as well as minority and refugee rights.
But he says, for example, that his focus is perhaps going to be more U.S.
focused.
And of course, his dad was born in Hungary and lived under the Nazi occupation.
Indeed, Open Society Foundations was headquartered initially in Budapest and then later in Berlin, whereas it sounds like Alex is going to be more focused on U.S.
domestic politics.
He says, for example, that he's going to put emphasis on voting rights, abortion, as well as initiatives when it comes to gender equality.
There we go.
Yeah, and with gender equality, we know what that means.
Yeah, it means sterilization of the youth of America.
You know, we've played James Lindsay before and if you ever get it, James Lindsay, you really have to listen to the, to his speeches.
And we've, you know, we've played bits of it in the past and it's always quite good.
But how did this, how does it really get into, into our schools, into our education system?
This is where, you know, our eye was off the ball.
This has been going on for 30 years.
It's so deeply ingrained.
And the tinfoil hat podcast, of course, a podcast.
A guy named, you know, that's, what's his face?
It's Sam Tripoli.
It's a pretty good podcast.
So he has Jordan Henrion, a parent, activist, activist parent, and he brings in a new name, Paolo Freire.
And how this thinking has been introduced and continues to propagate throughout the entire educational system, regardless of what subject it is.
These professors had us read this guy named Paulo Freire, a Brazilian Marxist from Brazil.
You know Paulo Freire?
Oh yeah, yeah, he's the guy.
He's the guy?
He's the nexus.
You know the guy?
Yeah.
I've never met him, no.
But what do you know about the guy?
He is a Marxist.
He's a theoretical Marxist.
He's out of Brazil and he came up with the entire scheme to corrupt the education system to promote Maoism.
As we would have it, as we would define it.
Yeah, trans-Maoism as we define it.
He is the guy.
He's the guy.
He's the go-to guy.
It all traces back to him.
And he's still alive, this guy?
I don't know.
We need to bring them to account.
Again, Marxist from Hasifi, Brazil.
This guy basically changed education.
This is educational theory that I had to read.
Okay.
Educational Marxist theory that I had to read for landscape architecture school.
My professors are like, Oh yeah, yeah.
That this, you need to develop a critical consciousness for landscape architecture.
I'm like for trees, for plants.
And they're like, yeah, you do.
And I pushed back and I was like, this book, Pallu Ferreri, it's a book called Pedagogy of the Oppressed.
This book is the most influential book in education.
Every educator that you know, every teacher that you know, who's been to school since 1990, for sure, has read Pallu Ferreri.
And if they go get like an advanced degree, like a master's or a doctorate, bro, they have to buy into the ideology.
They have to go in deep.
He quotes Che, he quotes Mao, he quotes Lenin, he quotes Lukács, Marx, Hegel, all of the big Marxist philosophers who were activists.
So, you know, just hearing this and I think of our You know, the Austin liberal school teacher, she was brought up on this as well.
Even though underneath she's Jewish, so she has some things that tell her this is wrong.
Underneath?
Bubbling under?
But she's been... Yeah, most Jews are all in on this.
Yeah, very much.
Very much all in on it.
They call it liberation theology.
So it's Marxist-Catholicism.
Right.
Yeah, that's the term.
Liberation theology.
Yes, liberation theology.
They call it liberation theology.
So it's Marxist-Catholicism.
And they funded him to go to the World Council of Churches in Geneva, Switzerland.
And, you know, long story short, he got picked up by these academics in Harvard, and they flew him.
He was the toast of the elites in America and in Europe, funded by the Rockefellers, funded by the UN as an official diplomat or some nonsense.
And then they published his book.
Over and over and over again.
And then they push all these Marxist ideologues who are basically, you call them, you know, they're Freirean.
F-R-E-I-R-E.
That's how you spell Freire, for anybody listening.
And it's a cult.
It's a cult.
It's a straight-up Marxist, Catholic, liberation theology cult that the Rockefellers funded to overtake American education.
And when he says this, I'm like, oh, so this is why we have new Catholics in China.
We got all new Catholics.
If you go back through Obama, do you remember he went to a church that had a black liberation theologist?
It's the same stuff.
Oh, was that his pastor?
Yeah, remember that guy?
Yeah, yeah.
Even though Obama's kind of an atheist and probably never went to church, but the Republicans tried to associate him with this guy, and it was a big deal.
Oh, he's a bad guy.
What was his name again?
He was a communist.
Yeah, what was his name?
Oh, come on, it's on the tip of my tongue.
Yeah, that guy.
And, yeah, no, this is, yeah, I'm glad you got this clip.
It's a good, concise clip.
Jeremiah Wright.
Yeah, yeah, Jeremiah Wright.
Jeremiah Wright.
Black Liberation Theology.
Same thing that you just take the word black and replace it with with design or to replace it with gender or you replace it with whatever Next clip the whole point of his book in education is that you know he wants to get rid of all distinction between Uh, you know, the teacher and the student.
Like, there's no hierarchy whatsoever.
You're not going to learn from the teacher.
The student actually teaches the teacher.
Yeah, like the child teaches the parent.
And actually, it's more like they're equivalent and there's no power whatsoever.
So that's why you see all this chaos in schools right now.
Of course!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
These educators got brainwashed into thinking that the students run the show.
Woke is Paulo Freire.
Woke is critical consciousness.
It is that.
That is where this shit came from.
It's Maoist.
It's Maoist thought reform.
Okay?
And that was his whole mission, was to basically insert Maoist thought reform in the West.
And damn, he was successful.
Yes.
And I have this shit, by the way.
Yeah.
Your earlier clip of the guy in California?
Yeah.
It reflects this.
Same thing, yes.
The idea that, well, you take the kid away from the parents if you don't listen to the kid because the kid's the boss.
This is the same thing that happens in family structures where the daughter Says no, them.
Yep.
To them.
Yes.
It's them, dad.
Them.
No, it says she, dad.
Yep.
That's upsetting the balance.
Yes, all Maoist.
It's great.
I have one more clip from him.
So, there was an example that James Lindsay gave, I don't have the clip but I can paraphrase it.
The way this is brought into the classroom is, let's say you're in math class, where it's a math lesson.
And you say, okay, Pete and his family are driving to the amusement park.
It's 50 miles from their home to the amusement park.
They've driven 30 miles.
The math question will be, how many more miles do they have to go?
But first, who here has been to an amusement park?
So there's going to be at least one or two who have not been to an amusement park.
And then the conversation goes, oh, well, why not?
Is it fair that some kids can't go to an amusement park?
And then all of a sudden you're talking about economics and class and you're no longer talking about math.
You're talking about equity.
Equity!
Of course you're talking about equity, ultimately.
That's how it's being taught.
And the more I think about the Austin school teacher, the more I now recognize Even though internally she hated it.
She hates her job.
She would say, I hate my job, but I can't leave because I will not get my pension.
I'm now in my fifties.
I'm screwed.
And she has all these rules when I say, you know, why don't you talk to the kids about this?
Well, that's not in the Texas State.
They have all these rule books of what you can talk about, and it's all codified, it's all encoded in there.
It started with No Child Left Behind.
The Republicans, Bush did this.
He started that.
Then we had ESSA, and then of course we had Common Core, and now we have SEL, Social Emotional Learning, and the way they did it, Is with ESSA and Common Core, the teachers now had to do all this extra work and document how the child is doing, not just academically.
Is the child adapting?
Do they, you know, do they fit in with the class?
Do they have empathy?
And then with SEL, the Social Emotional Learning, that's where we talked about this.
That's where this CASEL organization pops up and they say, oh, we've got the whole system that does it all for you.
You don't have to do all this work.
We'll just do it all for you.
And so now we have the whole system is all set up.
And I know parents who have their kids in Christian schools in Austin.
And I said, do they have any SEL?
Yeah, there's some SEL.
Red flag!
Red flag is everywhere.
Here's the last clip of this Jordan Henry guy.
Their policies from the top down are designed to destabilize children, to take away their identity, to make sure that they do not have one.
That's critical consciousness, right?
Because they want to have this mindset for children from a very early age where they're not really teaching them what to think or even how to think, but which questions to ask and in which ways.
Why did critical race theory, why did cultural Marxism get pushed In the institutions.
Why does UCLA have a critical race theory law department now funded by our tax dollars?
Why?
It's because the government wants to keep us separated.
They don't want us to unite.
These institutions, higher ed, these elite institutions, they're specifically designed to brainwash people and to keep them Keep them siloed.
There's this academic paper.
It's by this woke academic gender specialist, whatever, gender theory woman.
Her name is Hannah Dyer.
D-Y-E-R.
Listen to this title of this academic journal article.
It's called Queer Futurity and Childhood Innocence Beyond the Injury of Development.
It's better to understand queerness as that which is destructive to the social order and in contradiction to reproductive futurity.
Literally, queerness is attacking social order and the ability for children to eventually reproduce.
And this is important.
Everyone's focused on the T, but the Q's in there for a reason.
That's the one we gotta be careful of.
Because it won't come down to your gender or assigned at birth.
No, no, no.
Just queer, just no children.
Just ruin everything.
Stop your family.
No families.
No families.
That's the long-term goal.
The family will be created in a lab.
That is, unfortunately, these people are crazy.
So, part of cultural Marxism, and we, I remember saying this early on in the show, and we would kind of laugh about it.
Oh, it's cultural Marxism!
And you would chuckle.
I chuckle.
Yeah, you chuckle, because you knew.
But I was too young and I wasn't schooled enough to understand, but I was just yelling at everybody else, it's cultural Marxism!
But it was, and it is.
So when you change words, even if it's as simple as the definition of a vaccine, Or the definition of man and woman, which is John Hopkins.
Now this is, John Hopkins is an authority.
It is seen as an authority.
We had John Hopkins putting up the death count of COVID, regardless of what you died of.
That was on the screen for two years in a row.
Death count, death count.
So it's an authority.
And now they have redefined what lesbian and gay is.
And this, I mean, it's stirring up a little bit of consternation, but not really.
And I think we should read it, just so we all understand.
Is this the non-woman thing?
Yes.
Yeah, this is worth reading and discussing.
The University's Gender and Sexuality Resources Office has a glossary of LGBTQ identities and terms and includes... Wait, can I stop you one more time?
Yeah, sure.
We have to remember Johns Hopkins is a front for the CIA.
And we know this how?
USAID runs out of there.
Spook operations run out of there.
It's just, believe me, we've talked about this before, it's a spook operation.
At this point, and it's a real school, you can go there and get a degree.
Yeah.
But it is a front.
There's no doubt about it.
Okay.
Again, another school I did not attend.
So the Gender and Sexuality Resources Office contains a glossary of LGBTQ identities and terms.
It includes the definition for the term lesbian.
And this is how it reads.
Maybe I should do gay man first.
Let's do gay man first.
A man who is emotionally, romantically, sexually, affectionately, or relationally attracted to other men I guess you can't just have a bro.
Or who identifies as a member of the gay community.
So if you identify, you're gay.
At times, gay is used to refer to all people, regardless of gender, who have their primary sexual and or romantic attractions to people of the same gender.
Gay is an adjective, not a noun.
As in, he is a gay man.
A lesbian is a non-man attracted to non-men.
Thank you.
While past definitions referred to lesbian as a woman who is emotionally, romantically, and or sexually attracted to other women, this updated definition includes non-binary people who may also identify with the label.
Discuss.
Well, of course, the big controversy is why don't they make the gay men, you know, attracted to non-women?
Yes.
They don't do that.
It's a very strange, again, fucking with the language, to an extreme.
Whoa, F-bomb from Dvorak, whew!
Well, it's the only way you can put it.
Yeah.
with some goal in mind.
I mean, this is all an op.
And it comes from Johns Hopkins with their map of the deaths.
Deaths.
Des. Des.
Des.
Yes, the des.
The map of the death.
I mean, again, it's an op of some sort.
I don't know exactly what they're trying to accomplish here, but it did get some attention.
Well, there's so many people who benefit.
So we know how big pharma, the medical industry benefits, because it's money, money, money.
But the politics of it, you know, it's just the new black.
But this is always, the underlying idea has always been this Ferrarian, is that how we say it?
Ferrarian I guess.
Is this Ferrarian, Maoist, we'll just call it Trans-Maoist methodology to capture the entire country or the world?
The world, really.
The world.
The world.
Well, good luck.
Yeah, but it's working pretty well!
You know, what's working or not in China, here's the irony of this Maoist thing that cracks me up.
The Maoists who had the girls dress in pants and act like boys, and they had the kids turn on their parents with the Cultural Revolution, the whole thing.
That was the great extreme aspect of the Maoist thing.
Currently.
I was alive when this happened.
In my lifetime this happened.
Yeah, with the Little Red Book.
Yeah, and we still have red books on this very show!
Well, he's not little.
So, yes, we were both alive and the Little Red Book, they'd run down the street shaking the book.
Yeah.
And those books are around.
I mean, I think I still have one or two.
What is the equivalent of the Little Red Book today?
Well, I'd have to think about that.
There has to be one.
The pride flag, maybe.
Maybe, no, the progressive pride flag.
Yes, the new one.
Yes, the new progressive.
And, by the way, it is inappropriate for anyone of any gender, of any man, non-man, woman, non-woman, whatever, to bear your chest on the White House lawn.
I don't care who you are.
It's not appropriate.
Anyway, there were dudes doing that too.
So the point is, so they set this up, they are the ones who created the revolution.
Became a communist, actually kind of a, I'd say, Some new sort of communist state, a dictatorship, authoritarian for sure.
And they've since then, if you remember, like I think it was about a year ago, they banned flighty boys, guys who talk with... they had all these bans.
So now everything that would be like considered a little gay is illegal in China, which is like the reverse of where they were headed.
Not that I think China is behind this.
This does not lead to good news for the community.
No.
And keep your eye on the Q. That's what I said, keep your eye on the Q. So how does this, again, how does this happen?
We've had, with my child, my girls, they've all at one point been diagnosed with something.
And autism, I think, my daughter still believes that she has a proper functional autistic diagnosis.
And now she, like all of them, all of them at one point have been prescribed some kind of medication.
They all themselves got off of it.
Like, you know, I don't feel good on this.
This is no good.
Thank God.
But, you know, I think there still might be some Vyvanse roaming around.
Some meth.
Sir Tenly Stone, one of our knights.
I'm 43.
I was diagnosed one year ago as being autistic.
For insight and shared experience.
Wait, how old is he? 43.
So at the age of 42?
Yes.
For insight and shared experiences, I'd look to social media for other adults like myself who live decades undiagnosed and just trying to understand why everything is so hard to understand.
I would be identified as high-functioning or having Asperger's.
Both of these terms are frowned upon by the woke autistics.
This leads me to the point of this email.
Autistic transgenders.
Once I started poking around social media for autistic adults, I noticed right away that a large number of people early 30s or younger who are autistic identified as queer.
They, them.
Trans.
I thought about this for a while, and it makes a lot of sense.
When I was in elementary school, a trusted adult, teacher, or therapist could probably have convinced me the reason I was so confused is because I was in the wrong gender.
To add this to this, autistic people are always mimicking those around them in their struggle to read and adapt to social cues, so you get a monkey-see, monkey-do chain reaction on top of it.
Yes, social media.
It's a perfect setup.
And it's just, it's all being pushed, it's all being allowed and it doesn't end well.
And now we have... No, this is not going to end well.
We have to make this, we have to take that as a given.
And the main thing though that I would plea for is we have to stop and change the system and not just yell at each other because that's the not going to end well part.
You know, everybody's broken in this.
There's no chance of that.
Unfortunately, history says, you know, agrees with you.
Now, I'm gonna, just before we take our first break, and by the way, we have a special guest in today's donation segment, and, and, the secret numbers.
I think this is the last, you get these numbers, you get money.
This is the big one, it's the big win.
This, and we'll talk about this after our break as well, this flows into transhumanism.
Because if you can't If you're not going to create new humans, that's the ultimate goal of being Q, or the lead up to that being T. You know, we're going to create all that, we're going to have, you know, we have to bring in something else.
And a lot of transgenderism flows into transhumanism, and this is where we get into big tech.
And if I ever saw the ladies of Fredericksburg spin up over something, it is over the latest interview of Yuval Noah Harari.
And so, you know, there's text message groups like, oh, this guy, this guy, and he's a World Economic Forum advisor!
And this guy is the worst.
We've played clips of him before.
You know who I'm talking about, right?
No.
Yeah, Harari is the guy who wrote the book that everyone's... Probably if I hear him, I'll... Oh yeah, he's Israeli.
Have I ever delivered clips of this guy?
Um, we have played Clipse.
I don't know if you've delivered Clipse.
Um, his main book was, well, his original bestseller, Sapiens, A Brief Humanity, A History of Humankind.
Then he did A Brief History of Tomorrow, Lessons for the 21st Century.
You know, this is, this is, he is of course a World Economic Forum favorite.
This is the, he's like the, he's the guru.
Oh yes, he's so smart.
He knows exactly where it's all going.
He knows everything.
Oh yes.
Oh, and he's from Israel.
Come on, you know, he knows everything.
So, of course, he knows exactly what's going to happen.
And we might as well embrace our machine overlords, the AI.
AI is now at the stage like of, I don't know, amoebas.
It's like four billion years ago and the first living organisms are crawling out of the organic soup.
And so ChatGPT and all these wonders, they are the amoebas of the AI world.
What would T-Rex look like?
And how long would it take for the AI amoebas to evolve into the T-Rexes?
And it won't take billions of years.
Maybe it takes just a few decades or a few years.
Because the evolution of AI is at a completely different timescale than the evolution of organic beings.
Because AI itself works on a different timescale.
AI is always on.
Computers in general are always on.
Humans and other organisms, they live, they exist, they develop by cycles.
We need to rest sometime.
AI never needs to rest.
Okay.
Now you and I both know this is a big steaming pile of bullcrap.
I mean, even the guys running this say, this stuff's not working.
It's not really doing, it's not really what you think it is.
Yeah, it can write a little bit.
But this guy, he is convincing everybody that... I like this.
I remember this guy.
He's one of these guys, a little bit like...
A secular version, even though I wouldn't call it secular, of that Indian guru guy who keeps cropping up all the time with the big square glasses and he's the one who said, responsibility is the ability to have a response.
Deepak Chopra.
Deepak Chopra?
What happened to Deepak Chopra?
Yes!
Chopra has a way of analyzing and putting together things that are seemingly discrepant and piecing them together in creative ways that are clever and it kind of makes sense even though it doesn't really make sense.
I mean, responsibility, for example.
So, uh, this guy is like that, only he's a secular version.
He doesn't have any spiritual aspect to it.
And so he, uh, just comes up with the, I like the amoeba thing.
Oh yeah.
You could say the same thing about anything.
Glassware.
Glassware, yes.
What about Glassware, Dr. Dvorak?
It could be.
It's only in this amoeba stage.
Wait until Glassware becomes the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Oh, I'm glad you brought that up!
Now, the other two things we need to know about AI is that first, First, it's the first technology ever that can make decisions by itself.
Oh!
Make decisions by itself.
This technology is amazing!
I hear a lot of people saying, oh, all these worries about AI.
Every time there is a new technology, people worry about it.
And afterward, it's OK.
Like when people invented writing and printing presses and airplanes, they were so worried.
And in the end, it was OK.
AI will be the same.
It's not the same.
No previous technology in history could make decisions.
You know, even an atom bomb... Hey!
Hey!
What about the magic 8-ball?
Even an atom bomb actually empowered humans, because an atom bomb can destroy a city, it cannot decide which city to bomb.
You always need a human to make the decision.
AI is the first technology that can make decisions by itself, even about us.
Increasingly, we apply to a bank to get a loan.
It's an AI making the decisions about us.
So it takes power away from us.
Now, this is interesting because something is going on in the European Union, which we'll talk about in a minute, about the bank making decisions for you.
Now, you said non-secular.
Oh, no, no, no.
Our boy Noah Harari has it covered!
The third thing about AI that everybody needs to know It's the first technology ever that can create new ideas.
You know, the printing press, radio, television, they broadcast, they spread the ideas created by the human brain, by the human mind.
They cannot create a new idea.
You know, Gutenberg printed the Bible in the middle of the 15th century.
The printing press printed as many copies of the Bible as Gutenberg instructed it, but it did not create a single new page.
It had no ideas of its own about the Bible.
Is it good?
Is it bad?
How to interpret this?
How to interpret that?
AI can create new ideas.
It can even write a new Bible.
We, you know, throughout history, religions dreamt about having a book written by a superhuman intelligence, by a non-human entity.
Every religion claims, our book, all the other books of the other religions, humans wrote them.
But our book?
No, no, no, no, no.
It came from some superhuman intelligence.
In a few years, there might be religions that are actually correct.
Just think about a religion whose holy book is written by an AI.
That could be a reality in a few years.
Yeah, baby!
Oh, yeah!
Yeah!
This guy's got some chops.
He's good, and then the... He's full of shit, but it's like, you know, he's good at it.
But he's predicting what they will try to do.
I completely believe that... Oh yeah, our AI wrote a Bible.
It is a religion that is correct.
Can you imagine that Bible?
Wow, that should be a good one.
It's going to kick ass.
And then the interviewer, this is just a kicker clip.
The interviewer is such a dope.
This is what he says right after that.
You know, when I was preparing this interview, I wrote down questions that I would like to ask you.
And then I asked ChatGPT to create 10 questions that it would like to ask you.
And I've been doing this for a long time, okay?
25 years I've been doing this, and its questions were better than mine.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
It was absolutely insane, and it took it five seconds, seven seconds to write it out, and I'm still using the first version.
Yeah, this is why we've never heard of you.
You dope, because you suck.
That's why they were better than your questions.
What a dope!
So...
You just talked yourself out of a job.
Okay, so...
AI is very dangerous.
We're very afraid of AI.
I have clips and clips and clips today, but I just want to play these two before we take a break.
So, oh, AI.
Oh, what are we going to do?
The world is going to die of AI.
It's going to take over.
We have to be very careful.
The European Union is now in the throes of creating legislation about the fairness of AI.
Fairness.
This is in the European Parliament.
So we know everything the European Parliament does is worthless.
They can't even...
You know, they can't write laws, they can't pass laws.
They're just there to argue about stuff that's rammed down their throat.
And you can go, I have a yellow card, a red card.
So when they are in the European Parliament arguing about something, that means it's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
And so this is Ella Jakubowska.
She's the Senior Policy Advisor for the European Digital Rights.
Institute, which is an NGO.
Now, when I first was listening to her, I'm like, oh, oh, this is some, some outfit getting funded to, you know, talk about AI, you know, she probably was all in on blockchain two weeks ago.
But now, what she considers to be AI is interesting, because we, yeah, we would just say this is the stuff that, you know, that's been infiltrating our, our life for many, many years.
You know, just algorithms, not AI, but, you know, stuff like facial recognition.
That is now considered AI.
So let's understand that the terminology is being, it's now an umbrella, AI is an umbrella term for all things that the security state, the biosecurity state, the deep state, call it whatever you want, the system, is going to do to us.
And she's actually, in my opinion, on the right side of these.
We only have two clips.
Well, it's really a day of celebration from the perspective of human rights.
There are many of us in civil society, in various NGOs, working to protect people from the most harmful uses of technology.
And today we've had a huge endorsement from the European Parliament, one of the three legislative institutes of the EU, Again, whenever the European Parliament is saying, oh, we're going to do something, that means they're not going to do it.
They're going to lose and it's going to be rammed down our throats.
Saying that they are willing to draw red lines in the sand against the most unacceptably harmful uses of AI systems.
So there are also things that could be improved further, but nevertheless, there's a lot to be very happy about today.
Facial recognition and whether or not to ban it has been one of the most controversial topics in the negotiations on this EU AI Act so far.
And over the last year and a half, we have seen parliamentarians working really hard to find a compromise between all seven of the political groups.
And that was something they were able to achieve and what they decided was that all live facial recognition and other biometric profiling needs to be banned without exception in public spaces and that there also needs to be really strict limits on retrospective uses as well as many other forms of profiling, tracking and other systems that are often connected to facial recognition which have all been linked to really egregious human rights abuses around the world.
So what do you, on that point, what do you answer to say the French government which says we need that facial recognition for the Olympics next year to keep visitors safe?
It's very similar to what I said to MEPs in this pushback that we saw from the centre-right that you mentioned, which is that there is absolutely no evidence that the use of these essentially mass surveillance technologies in public spaces do keep us safer.
When we hear those claims, they're only ever coming from private companies or from governments without evidence being put forward that we are safer.
And in fact a huge amount of evidence to the contrary that we are all less safe when our behaviors, our faces and our bodies are being surveilled and profiled as we try to move around public spaces.
So I love this because it says two things.
One, they use the Dvorak method of there is no evidence.
Love that.
Two, it's in!
It's happening!
You're not going to stop it!
You can't even... I have to agree.
Yes, absolutely.
You can't even go to an American airport without the TSA now using facial recognition.
No one asked me!
So it's over.
So when these kinds of groups pop up to Make you feel good.
Oh, someone's on my side.
No, no.
And it's even more evidenced by the second clip.
And I know exactly what this case is about because it happened in the Netherlands.
And this goes back to Harari.
Well, these things will make decisions.
No, they won't.
It's not that they will make decisions.
They're already doing it.
And the stupid system, the stupid government is all over it.
We love it.
Predictive policing refers to a wide range of different techniques, some more low tech using even things like spreadsheets, for example, all the way.
Yes.
Predictive policing.
So we're talking about the the movie Minority Report.
Yeah.
No, not quite like that.
But go back to Harari.
He said, oh, the bank won't give you a loan.
Predictive policing based upon your profile, based upon who you are.
This is a We did not discuss this on the show, but this happened a couple years ago and it really came to a head in the past year and a half in Holland.
It's atrocious what took place.
But at least now we can discuss it on the auspices of AI, which this poor woman thinks that they have some kind of win because they had a committee meeting.
Yeah, we all think it sucks.
Okay.
Yeah, we're doing something for you people.
No, you have zero power.
more low-tech, using even things like spreadsheets, for example, all the way through to algorithmic predictions that we might think of more commonly as artificial intelligence, but that are used to try to predict whether somebody might be about to commit a crime or whether but that are used to try to predict whether somebody might be about to commit a crime or whether they might be And essentially, what these systems claim to do is to be able to tell the future.
They say that they know, often based on incredibly discriminatory, historically biased information, for example, where people live, who they associate with, the school they went to, all sorts of sensitive data about their lives used to try to say whether or not they are going to commit a crime.
And when you think about the fact that the EU has a human right to the presumption of innocence...
But are there specific examples of the police with this predictive policing technology, technology, putting people in preventive detention.
Actually, a lot of governments are experimenting with these kinds of predictive technologies.
And I mentioned the Dutch government because that is another one of the red lines that fortunately the European Parliament has taken a strong stance against today.
And that's something called social scoring, which has many similarities to predictive policing.
Social scoring is a technique that we've seen the Dutch government use to predict whether people were cheating on their benefits, on their welfare provisions.
And not only was this based on, again, very discriminatory data, not individual data, but things about where people live, where they come from, proxies for their race, their ethnicity.
But it was also completely faulty, as we know these systems are.
And in fact, as a result of that Dutch benefits scandal that was known as the Siri case, a lot of people lost their jobs, had their children taken away, way, died by suicide as a result of the false and slanderous accusations of benefits fraud that had been leveled against them by the use of these social scoring systems.
And this is what happened.
Between 2004 and 2019, parents were receiving benefits for, you know, like child benefits.
26,000 parents, 70,000 children.
were receiving benefits for child benefits.
26,000 parents, 70,000 children.
And then in 2019, the government ran some algos and they came up with these 26,000 parents and said, "Oh no, you owe us 15 years of money." And the way the IRS works in the Netherlands, the Belastingdienst, they just, they came to get it.
And the children were taken away from families, many families lost their homes, lost their businesses, people were committing suicide.
It's a scandal of epic proportions, which of course the Dutch are like, that's scandalous!
What's for dinner?
You know, it's like, because, you know, these things just get pushed down.
Shut up, COVID!
Stay in your room!
Stay in your house!
This is what they are talking about when it comes to AI.
And the fact that this lady is saying, oh, you know, we gotta win.
We're gonna, we're gonna protect you.
No.
No.
So AI is a very broad concept right now.
And in some weird way, by saying, oh, you know, it's coming, I'm not quite sure how it works, but psychologically it's covering up what's already happened.
Does that make any sense?
Yeah, it's a after-the-fact smoke screen.
Yeah, there you go.
So you can have like, you know, so you'll blame the computer.
Oh, the computer made a mistake.
Computer says no.
We're kind of tired of that.
The computer can't make a mistake.
Computer made a mistake.
Somebody programmed it to make a mistake.
Okay, that's no good.
Let's use this as our next excuse.
Ah, the AI screwed up.
Yep.
Not my fault.
So to wrap it up, you know, Elon Musk even posted something on Twitter saying, you know, Ted Kaczynski, bad dude, did some bad things, but he was kind of right about technology.
Well, this would not stand with the liberal intellectual elites of Pivot, the award winning technology podcast run by, um, uh, what is a lesbian again?
Non-man?
Kara?
Non-man?
What is that?
Non-man.
Non-man?
Non-man?
Kara Swisher and non-man?
Professor Scott Galloway?
Listen what they had to say because we're technology podcast award winning!
Another piece of news that Elon actually weighed in on.
The Unabomber Ted Kaczynski has died in prison of apparent suicide.
Elon tweeted that the domestic terrorist quote might not have been wrong about technology being detrimental to society.
I think Elon Musk is detrimental to society at this point, but he was found unresponsive in a medical facility in prison where he was serving life sentence.
This is someone just so people are aware of who he is.
Thinking is right.
He spent 20 years terrorizing victims of the homemade bombs sent through the mail by the time he was caught.
Three people had died and 24 were injured, some rather severely.
So, great guy to back.
I don't know, seems like he was a math, he was a math prodigy.
Obviously lost his way rather significantly.
You know, if you, you remember the Unabomber stuff.
God, that was seared into my memory at the time.
He's kind of a fascinating character.
You know, he went to Harvard when he was 16.
He did.
And I don't like to talk or reference his manifesto or what he believed because I don't want to bring any attention to it.
Why?
Because it's evil!
Because he's never read it!
Because it's a technology podcast!
Ted Kaczynski's dead!
No, no.
You don't want to read what he had to say?
No.
Why?
I don't like to talk or reference his manifesto or what he believed because I don't I don't want to bring any attention to it.
Why?
And I believe a decent proxy.
At this point, what difference does it make?
And I don't like to talk or reference his manifesto or what he believed because I don't want to bring any attention to it.
And I believe a decent proxy for your success as a person in your life is if you die under bright lights surrounded by strangers, you have failed.
If you figure out a way to die at home or, you know, with people who love you.
Does that imply to park your carcass a famous actor who died on stage?
Yes!
Under bright lights with strangers looking at him?
That's right!
You failed!
Under bright lights surrounded by strangers, you have failed.
If you figure out a way to die at home or, you know, with people who love you surrounding you, you've won.
And I like the fact that this man died alone.
And he maimed 24 people?
24, yeah.
Caused terror?
Killed three people.
And killed three people?
I mean, the amount of misery that he caused.
So, my feeling is it's unimportant what he stood for.
I have no desire to examine it or bring any attention to it.
This was someone who was a terrorist, who died alone, and whose life was so awful, he spent all... Wait a minute!
Hold on a second!
Didn't this same guy just say he was surrounded by strangers?
Yes, yes.
Well, that's not dying alone!
Under bright lights, terror, killed three people and killed three people.
I mean, the amount of misery that he caused.
So my feeling is it's unimportant what he stood for.
I have no desire to examine it or bring any attention to it.
This is this was someone who was a terrorist who died alone and whose life was so awful.
He spent all of his time and energy trying to figure out how to kill himself.
And so, you know, I hope my guess.
Apparently, he spent all this time trying to figure out how to kill himself.
Wait, he won't read his material, but he can read his mind?
Yes!
He spent all of his time and energy trying to figure out how to kill himself.
And so, you know, I hope, my guess is, I don't believe there is a hell, but my guess is he's sharing a cell with Epstein and other people in hell.
So good riddance, and I don't, I don't expect Norwana to ever speak about him again.
Anyway, it's a tragedy for the people who are killed to take Kaczynski and burn in hell.
My point is, this is an award-winning technology podcast.
They are not interested, in the slightest bit, in even for their own edification, to read what he had to say.
And the manifesto, you could call it a manifesto, titled Industrial Society and its Future, predicted pretty much to a tee, the pickle we are in right now.
I should maybe ban these clips because they're so aggravating.
Sky Galloway is... The guy is off the rails.
He just says crazy stuff.
They're both non-men and they should... They are.
Both of them.
And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C's in the facial recognition, ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John C. DeMora!
Well, good morning to you, Mr. Andrew Curry.
In the morning, all the ships and seaboats in the ground, feedin' the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning, to the trolls in the troll room.
Hello, hello, trolls!
Let's go!
They're hillin' out!
It's so hard to count them.
They run all over the place.
Nineteen hundred and ten.
That's good for a Thursday, no?
Yeah, it's good by at least one, if not two hundred.
Yes!
Good to see you, Trolls!
Thank you very much for being here with us, Noah Gentilstream.
Oh, it's because of Trump.
What are they going to say?
What are the boys going to say about Trump?
Well, we didn't disappoint, I think.
I think we've given you all the problems in the world today.
We've given you some solutions.
One of them is, read the dead guy's book.
You know, what could it hurt?
How bad could it be?
You might learn something.
TrollRoom.io.
We've had some problems with the TrollRoom system.
I'm not sure if it got fixed today.
The guys at Kiwi IRC who've had this system running for free for decades.
Something went down and I'm gonna make sure I make a donation to them today because I don't think I've ever donated to them.
Open source project and we've been using it as a web interface to our chat room, our TrollRoom.
So we appreciate it if they got it back up and running.
Thank you.
Of course, you can always use one of the modern podcast apps.
Ditch all that old stuff.
I'm telling you, they're going to start dropping stuff.
They're going to start making stuff illegal.
Oh, we can't have it on Apple.
Oh, that's no good.
So if you want to stick with Legacy, that's fine, but you might as well import your subscriptions now.
PodcastApps.com.
There are about five of them who also have the new live feature, which includes the Troll Room live stream, and it's where you get your podcasts anyway.
So I would suggest you look at that.
Also, you can follow us on our open source and wholly owned and run, well not owned, Matt owns everything, he runs it, but that's what Value for Value is about, noagendasocial.com.
You can follow John C. DeWaare at noagendasocial.com, Adam at noagendasocial.com, and people are doing cool projects on No Agenda Social.
A lot of people are just shitposting and putting memes out there, but there are people helping each other with jobs, finding ways to move ahead, working together.
Gitmo Nation is a very interesting community and everybody is welcome.
And it's just always heartwarming to see when these types of things happen and people are working together.
Of course, there's always arguments and stuff, like, you're wrong, you suck, what did you say?
Oh, you're tagging Adam and John, well, you bitch!
That happens too, but that's just what happens when you get too many people in a room and we only have 10,000 and we get that.
But you can also follow us from any Mastodon account that doesn't block us for free speech.
We on a list!
We're on a list!
Just one of the many ways what Aaroner is doing to help us with time, talent, or treasure.
Another way is for our artists to create artwork for the show.
We're very pleased that we have a brand new piece of art for every single episode.
We've done it for just about every single one, I think, going back to almost to number one.
Also, I have to mention the Bingit.io search engine that Sir Deanonymous has put together.
I'm loving it so much.
You're just... I am!
You can find any clip you want, stuff we've talked about.
Just put in the words and boom, you can click on the link and you hear us talking about that topic from a decade ago.
Thank him.
It's very cool that he's done that.
This is what he does for a living, by the way.
I didn't know it.
He has a company that goes into big companies and sucks in all their data, all their information, and makes stuff findable.
And Adam, what's the name of that company?
I don't know!
I really don't know.
He's doing this for the experience.
He just wanted to put his experience to work.
We have all of this information going back to God knows, you know.
We lost a lot of the first few years due to trusting a centralized Silicon Valley company that Google bought and then shut it down and threw out all our data.
Thanks.
That was a learning moment, yes, a learning moment.
So, and also, all the search results, regardless of what episode it is, he also pulls in the artwork for that episode, which is also kind of cool.
You can search clips, transcripts, and articles.
It's genius.
This is the kind of stuff you want to use for your schoolwork, your paper.
Yeah, if you're a student, High school or college, even.
Doctorate.
A doctorate degree.
You could be pulling down stuff that is so, you know, it's going to be obscure.
It's going to be like you did a lot more work than you did.
Yeah.
For a long time, people have asked me, what was the name of that guy who in the 1800s went to California and wrote a diary in...
He was part of some geological company and wrote a diary about what a hellscape it was with earthquakes, fire, mudslides.
Back in the 1800s when there was no climate change, no man-made climate change.
It is unlivable.
William Brewer!
And I found it like lickety-split because I just searched for that.
I brought up the episode where we talked about it and I mentioned the guy.
Lickety-split!
Lickety-split, I'm telling you.
Lickety-split.
Yes.
The artwork for episode 1563, which we titled Pocket Pardon, was brought to us by, I think, a new person, who is actually not new to creating art, but that may be the first time we've chosen something by him.
I think so, yeah.
And this was, we had a lot to choose from, and we had quite the discussion.
There was a lot to choose from, and we could have picked a lot of different pieces.
Yes.
We settled on this.
We settled for a number of reasons.
First of all, we didn't know transgester, we thought was, of course, a dynamite quote from our president.
He said it, transgester people.
And that was a possible show title.
Now, we always choose the art before we choose the show title, but I'm sure we both had that in mind.
And, you know, we kind of compare what do you have on your list and what I have on my list.
And then we're trying to find the right artwork to go with it.
And this one is clearly his interpretation of Joe Biden with a lot of stacks and stacks of dollar bills.
Behind him and and he's spinning the wheel of fortune and he's got trans jester indict Trump look aliens climate fires and Let's talk about what else we looked at and why we wound up with this one because there were a lot of very good trans jester Pieces in fact the piece we both liked the most There was a critical technical error Which we could not get around Which one?
Well, the Transjester by, hold on, bring it up right now, by Petrex.
Oh yeah, yeah, there's no Dvorak Curry on there.
Which is a critical technical error.
Nowadays, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that to us was a great piece.
We discussed the Trump Transjester Joker Jester, which we both agreed was an evergreen.
In fact, you use that in the newsletter.
We wish that the Woke Victims Unit, any of them, had used the correct font, which you're a stickler for.
Correct?
Yeah, but it was probably not going to get picked anyway.
The one down at the bottom, the one if you go down to correct the records, I think he's using the correct font.
Yeah, but it was too small!
And that's no good, yeah.
It was law and order, too, you know.
And it was on a Macintosh or something.
I don't know what that TV is.
Nobody has a TV.
No one has TVs anymore, bro.
What you doing?
They don't have that TV, that's for sure.
So that's no good.
You were actually quite a fan of Sir Paul Couture's Ron DeSantis.
I like that piece a lot.
I just thought it was funny.
But, you know, we don't really like putting people's heads like that on the artwork.
I think we both like, we like the idea of my taint hurts.
By Francisco Scaramanga.
It's a nice piece.
Well done.
It's a good piece if you blow it up.
Scaramanga.
Yeah, if you blow it up a huge size, it might have been good.
You mentioned Adios Tet by Darren O'Neill, which had his shack with no Wi-Fi.
I liked that piece a lot.
I think it's a good piece, but it was obscure.
Yeah, a little too obscure.
Pocket Pardons, none of those really hit home.
There were a couple others.
There's amazing quality in, I think, the level of quality of all those pieces for that show.
It was higher than average by a lot.
Yes, and of course the comic strip blogger AI, we had to just ignore all those.
I mean, it's not good.
You know, he just puts in TransJester into a computer and it comes up kind of soulless.
You know what I mean?
It's like there's no flaw that is the perfect joke.
This is why AI, so-called AI, just sucks.
It's soulless.
It has no soul.
Dale's desk and others, Scaramanga, you know, the head, if it had the heads on the desk, but it was the head in boxes and you couldn't see any heads!
And the heads were not in boxes.
No!
You just made that up!
It was actually heads.
It was heads!
Decapitated heads on the guy's desk.
Small heads.
What a great job.
Did you hear, by the way, it's kind of a follow-on to that about what happened at Harvard?
No.
Oh, here's our secret clip.
Listen to this.
Is it real?
You know, I mean, yes, he was already passed away, but still... This morning, the daughters of a New Hampshire sheriff's deputy who passed away in 2019 say they're horrified to learn their father's body was part of a grotesque criminal scheme at Harvard University.
FBI agents yesterday arrested this man, Cedric Lodge, for allegedly stealing and selling dissected human body parts while he was manager of the morgue at Harvard Medical School.
Investigators say in a scheme dating back to 2018, Lodge stole heads, Who could do something like that, you know?
from cadavers donated to the school for educational purposes.
He then allegedly brought those parts to his home and with his wife's help, sold them for tens of thousands of dollars.
Who could do something like that?
What kind of person?
No respect at all for the family.
They need to pay.
Do you have anything to say to the family?
Nope.
Buyers identified in the indictment include Katrina McLean, owner of Cat's Creepy Creations, a Massachusetts store that advertises creations that shock the mind and shake the soul.
Officials say she and others were allowed to enter the morgue and choose what they wanted Some items selling for hundreds of dollars each.
In one case, skin that was sold was allegedly made into leather.
And a PayPal account from one client allegedly included a transaction labeled head number seven.
The deans at Harvard Medical School calling the allegations an abhorrent betrayal.
But for the families involved, their trust has been lost.
The family of that New Hampshire Sheriff's deputy say his wife died earlier this year.
Her body was also donated to Harvard.
Her daughters now want her body returned.
She's down there.
Down there, yeah.
And we want her back.
Dude!
What's going on?
This is a bunch of ghouls.
This again, I'll bring it back to the earlier part of the show.
This is a reflection of the President.
Yes!
That's so good.
Yeah.
The president's corrupt, and so every institution, everything, has just gone off the rails.
And you got Harvard, of all places, they can't even hire somebody, pay him enough money, that he hasn't yet set up an Etsy account for, you know, eyeballs or whatever he's doing.
Etsy.
Etsy eyeballs!
Etsy eyeballs, everybody!
There you go.
So thank you very much, new artiste, J. Conn Sketch.
Uh, he's done a couple of... Actually, he did something that you liked.
He's done a lot of good work.
Yeah, this was a piece that he reworked.
Yeah, repurposed.
Yeah, repurposed, with a new character in there, and uh...
Yeah, he does have a style, man.
He's got a style.
We almost chose his old trout, if you recall.
Yes, there was a couple.
Now, I should mention, there's another piece.
He did the one with the... Let me go look at his stuff.
He did a piece with...
That we wanted to do, which was... I thought it was Old Trout.
No, it was Old Trout.
You're right.
I thought he did the one with Jesus coming out of the... That was some other artist.
That was some other ghoul.
But this was good.
It was worthy.
We appreciate it.
Thank you very much, JConSketch.
Welcome to the leaderboard!
He is now, and he's residing in Boise, Idaho, it says on his profile.
He's in Boise!
He's in Boise, that's right.
Thank you very much for your talent and your time.
Now for the treasure to keep the show going.
It's very needed and people stepped up.
We appreciate that after we had a very, very low, well a couple of shows in a row actually, but people came in and stepped up and we appreciate it.
So it's time to thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1564.
And we start off with Derek Bugga.
In Warsaw, Indiana.
$1,000!
Boom!
But did he put in for a knighthood?
Whatever he said.
I don't see it.
And he says, this is nice, I have listened to the No Agenda to No Agenda since episode one.
Yeah, I feel sorry for him.
This show is the best pod- No, he says, please emphasize in booming voice.
This show is... The best podcast in the universe!
The entertainment and the insight I have received is priceless.
Jingle.
No winning.
My son's favorite.
Thank you, Derek.
My favorite.
And your favorite.
Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
Now everyone hug and share a secret.
A crowd favorite, in fact.
Beautiful.
Thank you very much, Derek.
Let me see, did Derek make it onto the list here for the...
I don't think he chose anything.
We'll have to wait.
No, we'll have to wait.
We do have two nights today.
I don't think he's on the list.
He doesn't say anything.
He's not.
By the way, I'd like to mention Mike Riley will be at HeroCon in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Nice sound effect, John, thank you.
You know, because that's how good he is.
People go to see him.
Not that we have any art for him.
Get his autograph.
Yeah, yeah, because it'll be worth something one day.
Get assigned work.
Yes, just wanted to mention that.
Buy a comic book.
Because he is one of our artists.
There you go, that's enough.
That's enough pluggos for Mike.
Countess Kim of the Nutty Fluffers, $800.85, she wrote a... No, that's a super boob!
Boobs!
Super boobs.
ITM John and Adam, next time I hear that I'm not paying my fair share in taxes, I'm going to scream.
I bust my bottom from morning to night, creating job and doing my part to stimulate the economy, creating jobs.
Doing my part to stimulate the economy just to hold that my six-figure yearly tax debt is not enough.
Whoa!
Well, okay.
Dang.
Not to say what my company generates in sales and payroll taxes, which she feels should be enough.
Anyway, she had to get that off her chest.
Speaking of chest, can I please get some F cancer, R2D2 karma, surgery karma?
After staring breast cancer in the face and kicking butt, now I have to put my sweater puppies back together.
Sir Kevin, thank you for your support of all the twins and Gitmo Nation.
Oh, he's referring to Kevin McLaughlin.
Yes.
Last but not least, I'd like to give my dad John a biscuit for his birthday.
for it.
I'll give it at the end.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Last but not least, I'd like to give my dad, John, a biscuit for his birthday.
They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
For a 64th trip around the sun and also say happy Father's Day to him.
You in advance.
I, however, am keeping this donation for myself.
He can do his own de-douching.
He has helped make me strong, determined woman that I am.
Yeah.
Without his leadership and the leading by example, I would not be where I am today.
Thank you, Dan, for all that you did for us.
Thank you so much for you too and all you do.
Keep good work.
And your amazing media deconstruction love is lit.
Countess Kim, keeper of the Nutty Fluffers in Hubbard, Oregon.
You've got karma.
Thank you, Countess Kim.
Thank you.
Arthur Stanton in Cumming, Georgia.
350 and 41.
There must be a reason for that.
He says, this is probably too late to make the birthday list for today's show.
I don't know when you sent it in, but here it is.
Better late than never.
I turned 56 on June 13th and have never been an executive producer, so I'm giving that to myself for my birthday.
Nice.
Now you're talking.
Nice, Arthur.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Kathy Knight in Mesa, Arizona.
333.33.
ITM John and Adam, here's the best podcast in the universe.
A de-douching, please.
You've been de-douched.
My husband and I enjoy listening to the show.
You two are informative and funny.
No jingles, no karma, Kathy.
Eric Adler, Punta Gorda, Florida.
333.33.
No note, I don't have anything you looked, I'm sure?
Nothing that you found in your archives?
Uh, the only note I have... That's from Eric Gordon.
Eric Adler.
Eric Adler, no.
We'll give him a double up karma then.
You've got... Karma.
Uh, Ryan George in Crest Hill, Illinois.
And he's in for 333.33.
Happy Father's Day to the SASS man, S-A-S-S all caps, Marshall Field.
And I need some of that sweet home-buying karma.
Thanks, mofos!
You're welcome.
You've got karma.
Man, I'm really getting them today.
Darius Gandhi, Santa Monica, California.
333, no note.
No note, no note, no note.
Double up karma for you then, Darius.
You've got... karma.
Please send your notes to notes at noagendashow.net.
Yes.
Karen Seltzer in LaGrange, Kentucky.
ITM, this is a Birthday Father's Day shout-out to my smoking-hot husband, Sir Brad 1X, who celebrated his 57th birthday on the 10th.
He is the best husband and father.
Please give him a biscuit for his birthday.
They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
And some Reverend Al R2 D2 Karma.
Wow.
Just like the other one, almost.
Love from Karen.
R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
You've got... Karma.
Edward Pash.
Omaha, Nebraska, 333.
This donation elevates me to knight status.
Shout out to Lee Britton, a.k.a.
Sir Stavard Ironbrand, who hit me in the mouth in 2016.
Oh, whoa.
Please knight me Sir Edward the Henpecked.
I would like Coke Zero and Pizza Rolls at the round table.
I have them ordered.
They're right there waiting for you.
Thank you very much.
I don't hear the word henpecked as much as I used to.
No, we need to bring that back.
It's good.
Be happy and don't worry.
W-R-I.
$300 in some place in California.
Or no, in Canada.
No note, but give them the double up.
Oh, that's why it's in grey, got it.
Gregory William Forsyth Forman, also known as GWOOF, from Bromley, Kent, in the UK, our first Associate Executive Producer, with $2,800, $280.08.
This Associate Producer boob donation is part D.B.
a.k.a.
Governor Dana the Boss Brunetti Drunk Donation Drive.
Is he writing this drunk, do you think?
It sure looks like it.
It is possible.
Part down payment on potential Curry Dvorak Consulting Group work with no agenda productions for prospective TV show development work.
Well, you got the right attitude about alcohol if you're going to go into that business.
I'm meant to be showing sober solidarity with my pregnant wife, but she doesn't listen to the show and rarely doomscrolls any social, so I might just get away with having 10 too many Orm Brown Reels.
Due to recent low donations, I'll be upping my recurring Fugee donation from $5 per month to $34 per month.
By beef-following up with ISOs exploiting the talent of my human resources.
Hashtag no jingles no karma.
P.S.
Shipping for physical Too Many Eggs book available at TooManyEggs.com to the UK is $98.
What?
Is that true?
Is that true?
Oh, they still have that Royal Mail strike and everything going on there?
You gotta have a publisher.
We have to get a publisher over there to print the book.
That's insane!
That country's going to crap, man.
Did you hear about Bojo?
Well, free.
You can just get a free PDF.
Yeah, but he wants to support Mimi.
He wants to support Mimi.
Hashtag stay humble, goof the cock.
Okay, thank you very much, Gregory.
We appreciate that, man.
A lot.
On to Associated Execs, starting with Joe Derks in Amsterdam.
Is there some Dutch pronunciation of Joe Derks?
Derks.
Probably Derks.
Joe Derks.
Joe Derks.
Meetup donation, 6 feet and under, 2nd June.
Ach man, het was zo gezellig!
Close enough.
Okay.
Close enough.
So that donation, the meetup, they sent me some pictures.
They built out a whole cellar of some old building and then turn it into a meetup space.
Yeah.
Now you're talking.
Very cool.
Ah, the Dutch, man, they're all over that.
Sir Tooth Fairy is in Valparaiso, Valparaiso, Valparaiso, I should know, Indiana, 223.
Could I get some travel karma, please?
Well, of course you can.
You've got karma.
Steven Peterson in Kingaroy, Queensland, Australia.
Uh, piss poor exchange rate.
No jingles, just like to hear John try to pronounce the old Australian colloquialism.
Good day, cobber!
Thanks for a good laugh amongst our darkening and pathetic situation.
Cheers.
He came in at $222, a row of ducks and 22 cents.
Dame Beth in Tucson, Arizona, also a row of ducks, $222.22.
Heil, boys!
Calling all Southern Arizona slaves to the Too Hot Tucson Solstice Soiree next Wednesday at June 21st at Canyon's Crown, where we will celebrate the fact we don't have daylight saving time.
No jingle, no karma!
Dame Beth, that's right!
Arizona, smart!
Smart, smart, smart!
This is your old buddy, Sir Foam Finger No.
1 in Louisville, Kentucky, 222.22.
Amigos, I'm about to make a large personal purchase, but I want to share value with you at first.
Oh, how nice.
Please send negotiation karma.
Yours in podcasting, Sir Foam Finger No.
1.
Here's your karma, brother.
You've got karma.
And we have Baroness Salty in Manchester, New Hampshire, 222.
Happy Father's Day, fellas.
Everyone's early with Father's Day.
We didn't have a single early Mother's Day donation.
Of course, we're... Everyone hates their mom.
We've already said that before.
Of course, we're non-women.
Everyone hates their mom.
Happy Father's Day, fellas.
Please add Baronetta Salty, that's me, to the birthday list for 625.
God bless you both, and please play some fake Reverend Al for jingles.
Fake?
There's no such thing as a fake.
We don't have any fakes.
I got this one, though.
I wonder if she thinks that these are fakes.
No, these are real.
These are the real deal.
No, but I'm just wondering whether, you know, because they're so outrageous.
Especially this one.
The GOP infighting is escalating.
Political says Democrats are outright jitty.
Happy to watch the GOP implode.
Yeah, a jitty.
Right, a straight-up jitty.
Thank you very much, Baroness Salty.
You're on the list.
Sir Salah Hauser of the 321 in Melbourne, Florida.
Thanks for everything y'all do.
Trans Maoism deconstruction has been very enlightening.
Shout out to everyone coming to the Cocoa, Florida meetup Saturday.
John, get a SodaStream.
It's time to evaluate your seltzer game.
Well, I think what he means is upgrade.
Sales karma please to Salah Houser of the 321.
Hey, so I had a SodaStream.
They suck.
I never liked that thing.
Do you ever have a SodaStream?
No, I never thought to get one because I did a calculation on buying discounted sparkling water versus the SodaStream and it was cheaper.
Yeah.
Are you drinking some today?
Yes, I have some.
My last can.
My last can.
Oh.
Of LaCroix.
Oh, LaCroix.
There you go.
Here's your karma, bro.
You've got karma.
And then we have Taylor Koss.
Taylor Koss, Denver, Colorado.
$200.
This donation is a switcheroo.
All right?
To be credited to Tori and Will Gerken.
All right, let me do that right now.
Tori and Will Gerken.
There we go.
Set.
Thank you both for the wedding gift.
That's Tori and Will, I guess.
We figured we should return the value back, and what a better way than a producership to the podcast that brought us into each other's lives.
This is a love connection.
We wish you two the happiest and healthiest of marriages.
Please send them some karma.
Will do.
Also, my new husband John and I are looking for a bit of house buying, baby making, and jobs karma as well.
Anyone looking to hire a social media manager, drone operator, Photographer, non-profit fundraiser, financial analyst, or anything Bitcoin related, Bitcoin only, no crypto, please email us at contacttravelingtacos at gmail.com.
Oh, we can get some guys who can drive the drones and get some nice photos.
It's great.
Contact TravelingTacos at gmail.com.
Also, check out our travel blog, TheTravelingTacos.com, our media company, DoKissMedia.com, and listen to John on the Millennial Media Offensive every Tuesday night.
Thank you, Adam and John, for having such an incredible show and community.
We will miss all of our Denver Meetup producers dearly.
Mississippi folks, be on the lookout for meetups coming soon!
All right, Jobs Karma incoming for you.
Thank you for your support.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Karma.
I added a goat, because they needed all kinds of karma.
Derek, this is the couple that left Denver to move to Mississippi.
Yes, and they're the medium millennial... And they're going to take their little drone business with them.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Nice.
Linda Lupotkin in Lakewood, Colorado, 200, is our last associate executive.
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Go podcasting!
Oh, I didn't expect the go podcasting.
Who has go podcasting?
That's what she said.
Yeah, you know, it's it's like I have it on my on my podcasting 2.0 rig.
I feel bad.
I should have it on this one too.
That's our group of associate and pure executive producers for show 1564 and it was a good group today so we want to thank you all for helping us out.
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Shut up, slave.
I'd like to, uh, start off with an Ask Adam.
Oh my goodness.
Oh, you're really, you're really pushing me through the, uh, the jingle mill here today.
Because we know that... Okay, here we go.
This is about beer.
Hold on, hold on.
Where's my Ask Adam jingle?
I have so many of them.
Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Ask. Ask.
Hello. All right. All right.
Okay.
Ask Adam.
All right.
So, what do we have here?
One.
Ask Adam.
One.
Here we go.
Bud Light is no longer the top-selling beer in the U.S.
Yes.
I'm asking, what is now, and unless you know this, you'd never guess it in a million years, what is the top-selling beer that replaced Bud Light?
What I'm going to say is, I don't know the name, but I'll bet you it's made by Anheuser-Busch.
I don't know.
I'd have to look in the InBev list because it's every other beer in the world, but this is unbelievable to me.
Here we go.
Bud Light is no longer the top selling beer in the U.S.
Modelo Especial took the spot in May.
Brand's engagement with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney continues to hurt the brand.
Sales volume of Bud Light plunged by over 24% in the week ending June 3rd.
It extends the decline triggered when the brand rolled out a personalized beer can featuring the face of Mulvaney.
Mulvaney, who has over 10 million followers on TikTok, posted a series of videos plugging Bud Light and showing off the personalized can.
This sparked outrage among many conservatives, some who accused the brand of promoting a transgender agenda and called for a boycott.
I had heard this, and I thought it was interesting.
I find it unbelievable that the top-selling brand of beer in a beer-drinking country, the United States of America, the top-selling brand is a Mexican beer?
We can't even make our own damn beer?
I guess.
Well, we can.
We just, we promote it with the wrong people.
That alienates the brand audience.
It's not smart.
Not smart.
Alright.
I just found that annoying as hell.
I found a jingle that is important to play.
I've been looking for this.
It's so mislabeled.
But I finally found it.
Big news!
Big news from our boy, Seymour Hersh.
You read the Substack, don't you?
Big news.
Big news from our boy, Seymour Hersh.
You read his sub stack, don't you?
I think it just came out yesterday or today.
His latest.
I'm unfamiliar with what he did. - Right.
He says, in his Partners in Doomsday sub-stack.
Now, we take Seymour Hersh with reverence.
We feel he knows what he speaketh of.
Yeah, there's no evidence that he's full of shit.
No.
Okay.
As I was planning to write this week about the expanding war in Ukraine and the danger it poses for the Biden administration, I had a lot to say.
Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman has resigned.
And her last day in office is June 30th.
Her departure has triggered near panic inside the State Department about the person many, their fear, will be chosen to replace her.
Victoria Nuland!
She will now become the Assistant Secretary of State, right back where she can do the most damage.
This is not good, because the Kagan's are in charge of everything now.
They're in charge of this war, and I will prove that with a clip from France 24 with Douchebag Doug.
You know, the guy who always, he's the American who goes on... Yeah, our friend.
Yeah, Douchebag Doug.
Listen, we don't have to play the whole clip, you'll laugh your ass off.
To get a sense of exactly what's going on, I want to bring in our International Affairs commenter Douglas Herbert.
Right, we've heard about the three villages that have been liberated, so say Ukraine.
Tell us about the minutiae and what perhaps the strategy is behind this.
What's going on here, right?
Because we're not going to start saying, has the counter-offensive begun again?
We've been going on about that for days and weeks now.
Look, what the Institute for the Study of War, which has become an authority on this entire war in Ukraine, Okay, so Doug gets his talking points from the Institute for the Study of War.
This is the Kagan Institute?
Yes, the Kagan.
Yes, yes, so he is, and he said, oh, this has become the authority on the entire Ukraine war.
Enough said, douchebag Doug.
You overplayed your hand, bro.
About that for days and weeks now.
Look, what the Institute for the Study of War, which has become an authority on this entire war in Ukraine.
Entire.
Bullshit.
The authority on the entire war, everything, the entire war.
It's an extraordinary difficult tactical operation, or rather a series of tactical operations by the Ukrainian forces, what can also be called multi-pronged assaults.
And why I say multi-pronged is because it's not happening all in one area, you know.
You have this image, a counter-offensive, they're going to strike, as they did last fall in Kharkiv, repel, dislodge the Russian occupiers, and that's over.
This is what we really have is what's being called probing operations.
Oh, probing operations!
The Ukrainian forces are testing the Russian defenses, essentially, along that 1,100-plus-kilometer front line, which extends, as you know, Gavin, all the way from the north-northeast, the Kharkiv region, all the way down to the southwest, to Zaporizhia, that Kohovka Dam region, and even off the map here, Odessa.
You can see what we're talking about here.
It is a very extended region.
The Ukrainians are betting that the Russians do not have enough manpower or equipment power to be able to hold the entire 1,100 kilometer front line.
So there may be surprises here.
They're looking for weak links.
This is such bullcrap.
Probing up.
What happened to the offensive?
Oh no!
We're just doing little bits here and there.
That's the big offensive.
That's how it works.
You know, I was watching, we don't have any, I didn't get any clips for this one, I should have, because we were gonna have to discuss it, which is the action in Sudan, which is part of the West Clark 7.
Yes.
And they have some videos coming in from Sudan where there's an actual war, a real war going on, and it's nothing like the stuff we're getting.
I mean, it's just people shooting each other left and right, there's bullets flying.
Like a real war.
It's like a real war.
Yeah.
As opposed to what we're dealing with here in this Ukrainian conflagration.
The Sudan situation is completely out of control.
Well, before we get to Sudan... Like I said, I don't have an exception.
Sudan on deck.
Don't worry.
You know who was in Sudan two and a half months ago?
They led Russia to its first victory in months.
Exactly.
Exactly.
The woman, wherever she goes, death and destruction follows.
So it looks like the Wagner group is out.
New group incoming.
They led Russia to its first victory in months.
But for the leader of the Wagner mercenary group, Yevgeny Prygozin, seeing his men under the command of the Russian defense ministry is out of the question.
When we first became involved in this war, nobody said we would be obliged to sign deals with the Russian defense ministry. - We need to make a agreement with the Minister of the United States.
Not one of the Wagner fighters is ready to go down that path of shame again.
That is why none of them will sign the contracts.
In a televised meeting on Tuesday, Putin called on volunteer fighters in Ukraine to sign contracts with the country's military, widely seen as a means to assert control of Wagner.
This after Russia's parliament green-lighted legislation that will allow the Defense Ministry to sign contracts with suspected or convicted criminals to fight in Ukraine.
Putin added that the contracts were necessary for fighters to receive social support, including Compensation in case of injury and condolence payments to families of killed in action.
The Department of Defense is now offering a contract to anyone who wishes to continue serving in the special military operation area.
This is the only way to guarantee social rights.
This must be done and as soon as possible.
The move is the latest attempt by Moscow to recruit more soldiers and control private armies after suffering heavy losses on the ground.
The Defense Ministry has already signed a contract with the Akhmad paramilitary unit of Ramzan Kadyrov, the Moscow-backed ruler of the Chechnya region.
The group is currently waging the Kremlin's offensive in the Donetsk region in Ukraine.
The AKMA group now.
Oh, brother.
Yeah, and these dudes got beards.
They're pretty cool.
They look cool.
They're from Kazakhstan, I guess.
I don't know where they're from.
It's the new dudes.
New dudes on the block.
I think they said Chechnya.
Chechnya?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, right, Chechnya.
I think it was in there.
Yeah.
Get ready to say this is illegal, okay?
You ready?
I read to you from the Financial Times.
The top Republican on the U.S.
Senate Foreign Relations Committee will introduce legislation authorizing President Joe Biden to seize and transfer Russian sovereign assets to Kiev for the long-term reconstruction of Ukraine.
This is not only illegal, this is what's making everybody look askance at the dollar as the reserve currency.
This guy is single-handedly going to ruin this country by screwing up the reserve currency that the United States dollar represents.
Because these sanctions and this movement of grabbing money, all these illegal moves and schemes is not going to help anything.
The move comes as both parties in Congress are increasing pressure on the Biden administration and its allies to find ways for Russian money to fund the billions of dollars that will be needed to rebuild Ukraine rather than Western taxpayers.
The bipartisan bill is being filed today by Jim Risch, the Idaho Republican Senator and the party's top member of the Foreign Relations Committee, along with Sheldon Whitehouse, the Rhode Island Democrat, and the Senate Judiciary Committee.
It argues Russia, quote, bears responsibility for the financial burden of the reconstruction of Ukraine.
So we just steal money from random dudes?
Yes, no, it's the sovereign assets.
It's not even random dudes.
And gives the US president the ability to confiscate frozen Russian sovereign assets in the US, including Russian central bank assets, so they can quickly be directed to Ukraine.
This is, you're right, perhaps the dumbest thing, short, let's put it, short-sighted at best.
I mean, this is a very detailed article.
So they're just, they're going to do it.
You're right.
This is exactly why people are moving away from the dollar as their reserve currency, because America will screw you!
Am I right?
They're going to steal your money.
Yeah.
Because we can't steal it from the American public fast enough.
Well, we can.
We just, you know, we have to hire all those 87,000 IRS agents.
Hard to get good people these days.
Europe also, according to CNBC, Europe wants to use Russian assets to pay for Ukraine's reconstruction.
Here's how it might work.
The issue is highly technical, legally complex, and politically challenging.
But they're going to do it.
European Union getting close to brokering a detailed plan on how to use frozen Russian assets to pay for the reconstruction of Ukraine.
I thought you said this would never happen.
When did I say that?
Oh, don't tempt me.
You always say that.
Oh, don't tempt me.
I'll find it and I'll show you.
Yeah, well now I have Bing and .io.
What was it that I said wouldn't happen?
Do your Bing and .io thing while I'm... You said it's against international law.
It is!
I didn't say it wouldn't happen.
I said it's against the law.
And it's specifically against international law.
And it's against common sense.
We can't do this and steal people's money left and right.
Well, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Well, what are you going to do?
The International Criminal Court?
There's international law that prevents this.
This is bullcrap.
What has that guy got to do with the price of bread?
You said it wouldn't happen and I said it would and here it is.
I never said it wouldn't happen.
You said the same thing.
I gotta go back even further.
You have to go back further?
I never said it wouldn't happen.
I just said it's illegal.
Oh, man.
I'm sure it's around here somewhere.
No, I said you proved my point right there with that old clip.
Well, see, this is how good the bingit.io is.
I can be wrong.
I can be wrong.
And I'm ready to admit it.
I was wrong.
I don't know why I would say it would never happen, because the way things are going, it's... Well, that's how I heard you say it.
Well... I'm sure you did hear it.
That's how I... Oh, man.
Yeah, there's a lot.
I'll have to look for it.
No.
Okay.
Well, you're right.
You never said that.
You're so smart.
I am.
There's a lot of things you never said, but people still blame you for it.
I know.
It's just like I don't get it.
It sucks.
I'm really sad about that.
Even I'm falling into that trap.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry, man.
I'm sorry.
You got it.
You're right.
I was wrong.
And then in the European Union... Well, since you're talking about State Department stuff, let's at least play the clips about Blinken.
Oh yes, let's do that.
Going to China and everyone, all the analysts on all the kind of alternative Asian news sources say this is just an act of supplication, that we are bowing down, we're giving up, we're giving up to China.
Yeah.
China, Blinken, China, NPR1?
Yeah.
Secretary of State Antony Blinken is heading to China this weekend for some high-stakes diplomacy.
Relations between the two largest economies have been sinking for years, and the Biden administration says it wants to put a stop to that.
But State Department officials aren't raising expectations for any major breakthrough, as NPR's Michelle Kellerman reports.
The last time Secretary Blinken planned to go to Beijing was in February, but a Chinese spy balloon was slowly drifting across the United States.
The Secretary called off his trip and the balloon was shot down.
It was a dramatic reminder of the rising tensions between the U.S.
and China.
The top U.S.
diplomat for the region, Daniel Kritenbrink, has been working hard behind the scenes to get that visit back on track.
And in the course of those discussions, Both sides have indicated a shared interest in making sure that we have communication channels open and that we do everything possible to reduce the risk of miscalculation.
In a call with reporters, he downplayed the possibility of any real breakthrough in Secretary Blinken's meetings in Beijing on Sunday and Monday.
Kritenbrink says it would be wise not to expect any real deliverables.
I do think we need to be realistic.
We're not going to Beijing.
With the intent of having some sort of breakthrough or transformation in the way that we deal with one another.
We're coming to Beijing with a realistic, confident approach and a sincere desire to manage our competition in the most responsible way possible.
Secretary Blinken spoke about that with his Chinese counterpart, Xin Gang, before both sides announced the dates of the trip.
China says its top diplomat offered a pointed message to Blinken.
Here's how the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, Wang Wenbin, described the call.
He was speaking for an interpreter.
He stressed that the U.S.
need to show respect, stop meddling in China's internal affairs, and stop harming China's sovereignty, security, and development interests in the name of competition.
Wow, that's very succinct.
Like, hey, hey, Blinken, would you manage us as your competition?
Shut up, boy.
That's what I heard.
That's what you're hearing because that's what's going on.
Wow.
How weak?
We're so weak.
It's very weak and we're weak.
We've become weak.
And here we go.
Part two of this clip.
China says Blinken must also respect the country's core concerns.
That includes Taiwan.
Biden administration officials say Blinken will be talking about all the U.S.
concerns, including human rights and threats against Taiwan.
A top White House official on Asia, Kurt Campbell, spoke to reporters today while traveling from India to Japan.
It's part of his effort to build up alliances to help in this competition with China.
As the competition continues, the PRC will take provocative steps from the Taiwan Strait to Cuba, and we will push back.
The Wall Street Journal recently reported on a Chinese listening post in Cuba.
The Biden administration says that base dates back to the Trump era and insists that the U.S.
is doing more now to counter China's global military and intelligence efforts.
Wow.
It's just all so sad.
But it's getting worse.
Listen to this clip.
This is China meddling in the Middle East.
Oh, interesting.
Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas is in China today.
He'll meet with China's leader Xi Jinping.
And China has said it wants to help broker any peace talks between Palestinians and Israelis.
Part of what NPR's Emily Fang reports is China's effort to build up influence in the Middle East.
Unlike the U.S., China officially recognizes the Palestinian state as a country.
And Beijing's relationship with the Palestine Liberation Organization, which Abbas chairs, dates back to the Cold War.
Abbas is in Beijing for the next two days.
The visit Chinese state media has been promoting as a chance for China to play a greater role in helping broker better relations between Israelis and Palestinians.
China has indicated it wants to be a more active player in the Middle East, especially under the auspices of a new and very vaguely defined global security initiative proposed by China's President Xi earlier this year.
In March, China helped broker a truce between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
They're doing exactly what we used to do.
You know, hey, here we are, big swinging dick.
Come on, we're going to fix everything here.
Yeah, they took a copy of the economic hit man.
Yep.
And they read it thoroughly and they're doing exactly what we used to do.
Yeah.
Rubble-izing.
They're going over there, the jackals are coming out.
Hey, you want to play ball with us?
Oh man, do you think we can still be the great America that we once were?
Uh, you know, it's a cycle.
It's a cycle.
Yeah, probably.
We probably can't.
Well, this is all great reset.
Things are resetting.
Things are going back to, you know, new, new, new.
Just stuff is happening.
You know, we've got a dead queen.
Still on deck for the Pope, hate to say it, but, you know, that would be part of the Great Reset.
And, of course, the big news out of Italy.
Before Donald Trump, there was Silvio Berlusconi.
A flamboyant showman, property magnate and media tycoon, he dominated Italian politics for the best part of two decades, winning three elections and becoming the longest-serving Prime Minister since the war.
Today it was announced that Silvio Berlusconi had died at the age of 86.
To the outside world, he seemed something of a buffoon.
We either smirked at his gaffes or scowled at the alleged corruption, the apparent homophobia and racism, and his undoubted eye for a pretty face.
This was, after all, the man who'd gone from cruise ship crooner to hosting sex parties at his palatial villa outside Milan.
Congratulations, you're so good that I feel like inviting you to Bunga Bunga.
My compliments.
You are so good, I am almost forced to invite you for some Bunga Bunga.
Yeah, the Bunga Bunga parties.
Good times.
Bunga Bunga!
Good times.
You know, that guy was Trump on steroids.
Yeah.
And they used to talk about, oh, he's going to jail.
He's got to run for re-election because they're going to put him in prison and all the rest of it.
And none of it ever happened.
Yeah, but he also never- The media lied.
He never really regained the same power that he had at one point.
He kept kind of, yeah, they brought him in for a little bit, then they got rid of his party.
Yeah, no, he was only, he peaked.
Yeah, he did peak.
He did peak.
Yeah.
I don't think I played this from the last show.
Universal Basic Income in the UK.
Did we talk about that?
I believe we might have, but let's play it anyway.
Just in case, because this was on... I think we played this.
I feel stupid that I don't know.
It was good morning, Britain.
What if you were paid an income each month without having to lift a finger?
That's a proposal for a universal basic income trial that could take place in some parts of England to find out what impact the money has on people's lives.
And we're joined now by Will Strong, who's Director of Research at Autonomy, the think tank behind the scheme, and former Apprentice winner Michelle Dubree.
Good morning to you both.
Will Strong, what on earth are you talking about?
£1,600 a month and you don't have to work?
Why?
Yes, this is a really exciting pilot happening in two parts of the country.
We had a two-year consultation with communities there and it's a really exciting idea that's happening all over the world.
So 100 pilots in America happening right now, a pilot in Wales, a pilot in Finland.
But why?
Basically, there's a number of reasons.
I think there's two kind of ways of looking at this.
On the one hand, solving some of the problems in our current system.
So the welfare system doesn't work.
It's widely condemned as basically immoral and ineffective at getting people into work.
And secondly, preparing us for the future.
We've gone through the COVID pandemic.
We've gone through the cost of living crisis.
There's so many different kind of tumultuous moments ahead of us.
Climate change, AI disruption, tech disruption of all kinds.
We need a solid income floor.
And in the pilots you're going to give, in the pilot areas, a working person £1,600 a month for which they have to do nothing.
So that's £20,000, £19,000, £200 a year.
And the idea is what?
If you just give them the money, does that make them work more or less?
Well, this is what we're going to find out.
This is why we're running pilots.
This is why pilots are the thing right now of basic income.
To understand what are the different outcomes, you know, different demographics, different income levels.
Yeah, guess what?
Just gonna think that won't make people work more?
Don't need a pilot for that.
By the way, pilots, it was a vote.
Pilots can now retire at 67 in the United States instead of 65.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah, because we have no more pilots.
A lot of them are just dead.
And why do we need universal basic income in America?
Well, maybe this is a clue.
Americans are digging themselves into a deep financial hole, approaching $1 trillion in credit card debt.
The nation's record high credit card debt now stands at nearly $988 billion.
That's around $5,700 per person.
Those between 40 and 49 years old have the most debt among all age brackets, with about $7,600 on their cards.
High interest rates and inflation are adding to the problem.
Yeah, even though inflation is down by 50%, which started during the Biden administration, although we can't blame him for it.
We all went crazy, printed up all this money and it flushed into the system.
And so now, if you hadn't already heard about the hotels in San Francisco, there's more.
There's concern that San Francisco could turn into a so-called zombie city with its downtown hauled out by a fentanyl epidemic, pervasive homelessness, and fleeing retailers.
And you just mentioned that last significant hit, the biggest mall in the city, right in downtown, is leaving.
This morning, a San Francisco mall at the epicenter of a growing real estate dead zone in a major American city.
Battling rising crime, soaring real estate prices, and a homelessness crisis, the city dealt its latest blow this week.
Westfield, which owns the city's largest mall, stopped paying its half a billion dollar mortgage and is surrendering the property to lenders.
The company's setting dramatically decreased occupancy down to approximately 55%, including already announced closures of tenants such as Nordstrom, Banana Republic, Union Square used to be the beating heart of San Francisco, but a recent survey found that since 2019, nearly 50% of all the stores here have left.
Now it's empty storefront after empty storefront after empty storefront.
The last time I was here was 2019, so it was great back then.
Now I'm scared.
I was thinking to switch my hotel.
In the first quarter of the year, the city saw a 16% rise in robberies and a 41% spike in fentanyl deaths over the same period in 2022.
We're seeing it all over right now.
Companies are leaving the city.
Is San Francisco dangerous?
Well, here's the thing.
San Francisco's a major city, and it has challenges.
But let's back up a little bit.
You are talking about people who are leaving the city, but not the people who are staying, expanding, coming to San Francisco.
But it's not just San Francisco.
Other West Coast cities, including Portland, Seattle, and Los Angeles, also suffering from a similar trend of downtown decay.
The mayor noting that several metrics of crime are actually flat or down, but it is worth mentioning that we are not at Union Square or the Westfield Mall this morning because we have been advised it is simply too dangerous to be there at this hour.
Crime is down because there's no one left to rob.
Well, no, the crime is not down, eh?
I've brought this up on the show before and I'll do it again.
Please do.
Because nobody's reporting the crimes and the cops aren't going out.
There's not enough cops to take down reports.
So thus, yeah, in fact, abolish the police and crime will go down to zero.
Yeah, well, that's what Austin's doing.
We were in Austin last night.
And our description of Austin is sticky.
The whole place is just sticky.
Sticky or stinky?
Well, that too, but it just feels sticky.
Like it's grimy and dirty and... We used to live downtown!
Grimy and dirty and stinky and sticky and... Why are you still there, man?
You're talking to me?
Yes.
I'm not in Austin.
No, why are you still in San Francisco?
I'm not in San Francisco, that's the point.
I wouldn't move, I wouldn't live in San Francisco in a million years.
I'm a great distance away from water.
I have to go across water to take bridges to get to San Francisco.
The zombies are going to cross that bridge.
They're not coming over because there's no pedestrian allowed.
There's no one to rob, is that what you're saying?
No one to rob in Berkeley?
They gotta eat each other.
They gotta cross the mudflats, man!
I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
I'm laughing, but I don't feel good about it.
I want to make sure you're safe, because those zombies, man, they will cross water.
Well, I haven't seen that yet.
Okay.
And they first have to go to Berkeley.
Allison is in Taiwan, it looks like.
Oh, yes!
Oh!
This is Allison.
I don't have her last name.
I should have it.
This is a transfer, a wire transfer.
She's got it over $150.
I thought I sent the name over directly, but I didn't.
But anyway, thanks, Allison, and it did work.
Well, she said this will be my final donation from Taiwan.
My husband and I are ready to come home after spending eight years here.
Do you have her last name?
I guess maybe she doesn't.
No, I do not.
I do not have a last name.
Well, thank you, Allison.
This will be her last donation from Taiwan, but she did get the donation in.
Yeah, so nice.
Uh, Lorcan Burn in Dublin, Ireland.
150 bucks.
And Lorcan says, yeah!
Lisa O'Connor, who should be in Dublin, is in Kanaky, Illinois.
Happy Father's Day, Scotty O'Connor.
We have to read out the dad's names.
Needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
I believe that de-douching is for Lisa.
That's $150.
Jody White, Houston, Louisiana.
$150.
And that's a shout-out to the May and Dude Ranch in Bandera.
Oh, okay.
Doesn't have anything to do with anything.
Uh, Sir Ladyboy in Mont Laurel, New Jersey.
1-38.
Sir Allen in Midlothian, Virginia.
1-2-3-4-5.
Uh, I have to feel like reading this, too.
You guys still irritate me.
But what the heck?
It's a great show, so here's a donation.
Thanks.
I hate listener.
Betty Boop in Kettering, Ohio.
I remember Betty.
100.
I remember Betty.
Yeah.
Hey, Betty.
Hey, Betty.
Betty's a good woman.
Yeah.
Shardavoyne, Shardavoyne in Centennial, Colorado, 100.
Rebecca Weintraub in Columbia, Maryland.
Please tell your audience to believe in themselves.
It's got a long note here for some reason.
And know that their intuitive answers are the right answers.
Just so you know, we're not obliged to read the notes under Executive Producer, but Nice.
Oh, she sent the picture of her wearing the Appetite for Deconstruction t-shirt she bought.
Oh, okay.
That was nice.
Thank you.
Anyway, Rebecca's in for $100.
Lucas Williams is $100.
He's in Roswell, New Mexico.
Yo.
I think Lucas is the one who sent us the souvenirs.
Yes, the little spinning top.
Lame souvenirs, too, we have to say.
I liked it.
Anonymous in Clifton, New Jersey, $100.
Matt Stevens in Waycross, Georgia, $100.
Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina, 8008.
Aaron Jones in North Barrington, Illinois, 8008.
Nice.
He's a de-douching.
Got it.
You've been de-douched.
Timothy Hotner in Navin, Ontario, Canada, 7777.
Gary Blatt in Ashland, Kentucky, 7777.
Joseph Weish in Miami, Florida, 7777.
He has a note.
Yeah, I read this.
I just want to make a point.
He works in the He's speaking as a retired law enforcement officer who worked at Miami International Airport.
He says, I have some information that may make sense to the TSA search less time-consuming.
Adam, you make your living communicating with your mouth.
I would suggest that when you're in line where carry-on baggage is placed, the moment that seems to be a concern over your podcast equipment, immediately speak up and dispel the... Listen to me, Joe Weick.
Thank you for your donation.
I always do this.
I say, oh yeah, that's my mixer in there.
And I know what you think that thing looks like.
It's a microphone.
It's not what you think.
I'm always speaking up.
I do that.
And you know what they do?
They take longer when I do that.
Uh-oh.
Oh, funny man.
You think you're funny, huh?
Think you're going to tell us how we do our job?
It may just be the Austin people, but they're dicks.
So, yes, I am very good at communicating.
I immediately go, oh, I tell them exactly what's going on.
And you know what they do?
They ignore me.
And then they wait, and then they go put some bins away.
I got some bins to move here.
So, I appreciate what you're saying, but it may be that way in Miami, but in Austin, they're horrible.
I'm sorry, Joe wrote the note.
Yeah.
Rita Harrington in Sparks, Nevada, $65.
Christopher Dechter, $5678.
Sir, hold my beer in Austin, Texas, $55.55.
He also says space is fake.
Our listener.
Amy Harmon, Nashville, North Carolina, $51.40.
Bob Butler, Cumming, Georgia, $50.69.
John Cortazel, in Pensacola, Florida, $50.01.
Pass or Economic Hitman in Tomble, Texas, or Tom's Balls, Texas, $50.01.
And the following are $50 donors, name and location.
Michael Wendell, Mattawin, New Jersey.
Stephen Ng, in Box Elder, South Dakota, Gary Mao in Ritalin Hills, California, but Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida.
Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington.
Real Deals Now in San Antonio, Texas.
Cushley Care doula service!
In Asheville, North Carolina.
Oh, they sent a Meetup report.
Yes.
Thanks for helping people remember to build connection.
That's right.
Stuart, her husband, who I think does the accounting for the kushly care doula service.
Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina.
Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas.
We have a birthday for Ian Johnston in Kelowna, B.C.
and wrote, for some reason, a long note here, but he really is in love with his wife.
He loves her.
I only want to mention that he is the creator of such fabulous jingles as Nap for Humanity, Drunk or Not Drunk, and one we haven't played in a long time.
Remember this one?
Read his email.
Remember this one?
Yeah.
I think that should be a feature we bring back.
Hold on.
On the No Agenda Show.
Yeah, we gotta bring that one back.
Thanks for reminding me, Ian.
Good one.
Well, I liked it when you read the Facebook post.
I'm not on Facebook.
Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky.
Michael Thompson in New Brownfells, Texas.
Easy Landscapes!
In North Stonington, Connecticut, Kelly McDill in Mission Hills, Kansas.
Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
Big Papa Productions in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
And holy mackerel, we got a long one here.
But this is a knighthood.
I'll breeze through it because we read the knight notes.
Andrew Smith, Indian Land, South Carolina.
Adam and John, my apologies for the long overdue knighting accounting attached.
It's been a whirlwind of a year.
Buying a home, getting married, juggling all life's challenges.
Actually show 1500 that put me over the edge.
I could not resist the call and ran some quick math while watching the Halikala sunrise on my honeymoon.
Nevertheless, six months later, the accounting is in.
All my $5 monthly and individual contributions have paid off.
Thank you both for keeping for everything you do.
How about that?
That's nice.
is a special place in my heart.
Keeps me sane year after year.
It has served as a keystone and grounding element of my life.
Nothing I can give or do for the show will amount to the value I receive.
John, you have been a foundational force in my career as a software engineer and constantly challenged the norm going back to the Tech TV days.
How about that?
Tech TV donation.
Adam, thank you for following your passions and going to the beat of your own drum.
Your dedication to your craft is a true inspiration.
No special night name, just simply Sir Andrew.
Also, if I may, I'd like to be added to the birthday list for Wednesday, June 14th.
Nothing to request at the roundtable.
If I could get a biscuit on my birthday... Yeah, I can get you a biscuit on your birthday right here.
They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
And a two to the head for Ayn Rand.
Oh, goodness.
That's enough of that.
I don't know that he's on the birthday list.
Okay, I'll check that.
You finish it out.
He's on the birthday list!
He's on the birthday list!
Our back office rocks.
Nothing to request for the round table.
Okay, he's good to go.
Lowell Hall in Novato, California.
Another birthday boy.
$50 and he needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
19th birthday for a smokin' hot wife, he puts it.
Brendan, uh, Demi?
In Drayton, Queensland, Australia?
He says your critique of Australians is justified!
Good day.
Brian P. Bellon in Ashbury, New Jersey, and last on our list of $50 donors is Robert Cardinal in Hinesville, Georgia.
And he's got a pronunciation for his name.
Blackbeard.
Sounds legit.
Thank you to these producers who have supported the show.
Episode 1564, we really appreciate it very much.
Thank you for everyone who supports us with time, talent, and treasure.
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And a big service go to everybody who needs it.
You've got Karma.
Yes, we do have a list.
Karen Selsor wishes Sir Brad 1X a happy birthday.
He turned 57 on the 10th.
Arthur Stanton turned 56 on the 13th.
Andrew Smith celebrated yesterday.
You just heard him.
Ian Johnson wishing his scorching hot Latvian wife Christine Kalva a happy birthday.
He turned 33 yesterday.
And there's Sir Brad 1X.
He celebrated his 57th birthday on the 10th.
I guess it's for himself.
Lowell Hall wishes his smoking hot wife, Ariella Aguero, a happy birthday for tomorrow.
Baronetta Salty on June 25th.
And Countess Kim wishes her dad, John, a happy birthday.
He is turning 64.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
No titles, but we do have two knights to handle on the stage here.
There is blade number one.
Blade two comes from John.
There you go.
Nice blade.
Thank you.
Hello, Andrew Smith and Edward Posh!
Step on up, gentlemen.
Both of you today become knights of the NOAA Gender Roundtable thanks to your support of the show and the amount of $1,000 or more.
No matter how long it takes, you get that ring and you get the pronunstication now as I hereby pronunsticate you Sir Andrew and Sir Edward the Henpecked.
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Over to our meetups!
All right.
Yes, we have varying degrees of quality today.
Luckily, the Asheville non-woke... What do they call this meetup?
The non-woke meetup report.
Is that it?
I guess so.
27 seconds of this.
Hi, this is Stuart with Asheville non-woke underground meetup.
There you go.
And I'm recording this on my Zoom H2 for John.
Daniel from Bedford.
Greg from Phoenixville, Pennsylvania.
Amy and Pam's $3.99 a pound.
Trevor from Omni Creek staying dangerous.
Jeremy, Rip, and Shannon, Forest City.
This is Jessica from Green Valley Road and we are clearly not underground.
John, I think we need a handy guide from you on how to use these devices.
Make sure we get... Yeah, yeah.
And then from the Netherlands, from the basement there, the Six Feet Under meetup... Hello, here's Joe from the Meetup Report Six Feet Under!
This is Frank, I got your mic, in the morning!
Hi, in the morning!
In the morning, Joost!
This is John, sir, of Foxbow, the Cook Islands.
This is supposed to be 6 feet under, but I'm 600 feet high right now in Amsterdam.
No kidding.
Sure, Hendrik.
Romantic night.
Night of the... Jesus Christ.
Okay.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry, Adam.
Sorry.
Cut that out.
This is Sebastian.
I brought the meat, but I forgot the mutton.
In the morning.
Thank you for your courage, Amsterdam.
Hey, it's Ruth here, having a great time in Amsterdam.
I think the Netherlands is going down the drain, John.
These people are just perpetually stoned.
They have something to do.
Hey, we've got a lot of meetups taking place in the next couple of days.
Today, Kingstown House Party.
That's brand new.
I can't wait to hear about A. White Mike, who is hosting that.
It's at his home in Alexandria, Virginia.
Mid-coast main Thursday.
Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, Liberty Meetup.
Hello!
In Liberty, Maine, we've got the North Idaho Sanity Brigade the third Thursday in post-Idaho Falls.
We've got Summer Affirming Care in Denver Park.
We've got Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday at Charlotte, North Carolina at Tavern.
We've got the No Agenda Meetup in Ireland.
Which will be in Dublin, Ireland.
That is on Friday.
On Saturday, the OKC Hui Hui Downtown Edition at Parlor.
OKC, we got the North Fort Worth Meetup at Phillips Patio Grill in Fort Worth, Texas.
Central Florida, beers with buds by the beach.
That'll be at the Village Beer Garden in Cocoa, Florida.
We drink and we know things.
Central Jersey Meetup sounds about right.
3BR Distillery, Keyport, New Jersey.
Sir Nobody of the 3D Printer is hosting that.
The Shrunken Amygdala Support Group in Cincinnati at Taft's Brewporium.
The Tiny Amygdala Planning Committee bring the kids at Sir Lane's house.
That'll be in... that's in Alaska.
All right, Cassandra, Gemini, New York Times, Rona, Prediction Red 33, Red 33, Northwood, Massachusetts, of course, the Castle Island Brewery, the Portland Slave Soiree at Dick's Primal Burger in Portland, Oregon, Spot the Spook, that's in Huntsville, Alabama, West End Grill, also on Saturday, the third Northwest Houston Meetup, 6.30 at Wakefield Crow Bar, Houston, Texas.
State of Jefferson, God Save the Beef meetup, and that's in Shasta County, California.
Contact the organizer for details.
And next Sunday, or this coming Sunday, next show day, the Burke Hui Hui meetup at Urban 360 Pizza in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Jeff Tohig could use some support there, and it's at a pizza place, so go check it out.
No Agenda Meetups.
It's where you meet your community.
It's where you build your community.
You can't just rely on technology.
You can't just rely on listening to the podcast.
Be a part of the movement!
Go to noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, start one yourself.
Guaranteed to party!
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you want to be.
Triggered or held to blame.
It is indeed just like a party.
No agenda meetups.
These things are poppin', poppin' and hoppin'.
I love it when people donate to promote them.
That's kinda cool.
I love it when people do their little raffles and stuff like that.
I mean, it's fun.
And connection is protection.
You're gonna need it.
You're gonna need it.
Because it's all gonna be weird in the next months, years, whatever.
Meet, uh, ISOs.
There you go.
ISOs.
ISOs.
How many do you have?
Uh, let me see.
I have... Where's my ISO bin?
Oh, I have four ISOs.
Oh, blam.
Okay.
Uh, here we go.
ISO number one.
Obviously drunk.
Okay.
I like that one.
What?
You like it?
I like that one, yeah.
I have a... I'm not afraid.
I like that one, too.
Wow.
And I think this is still a winner.
100 frickin' percent.
Wow.
Yeah, contenders, eh?
Yeah, I think you got two in there that are pretty hot.
Yeah, hot, baby.
What you got?
I got better.
We're being better?
Not bad, not bad.
Crazy?
Crazy!
Who is this?
And good.
I'm feeling so good.
You know, if you had just thrown one in there, now after I heard the same voice three times... No, no, ah!
It's not the same voice.
There are two different people involved in those three clips.
Oh, really?
Well, for some reason it didn't work.
Which one of mine do you like?
Yeah, come on, we have to go with Trump.
Yeah, yeah.
Obviously drunk.
That's not this one.
100 frickin' percent.
Actually drunk and then 100% together.
Well, they're kind of long.
Let me see.
Let me see if... Oh, it's perfect.
I think... Obviously drunk.
100 frickin' percent.
Oh, yeah.
It's a combo.
It's a combo, everybody.
It's a combo.
It's a combo.
Alright, you want to play us out with something since we're at $3.10?
Yes, since we're talking about this sort of thing, California, all the rest.
I have to say that one of the best showboaters out here is Gavin Newsom.
Oh yeah, he's doing an amendment, right?
He's doing a gun rights amendment, but you'd think, at least I would think and you would think, you guys are all jacked up about guns.
Yeah, get rid of them.
So let's just repeal the second amendment.
Yeah, like the 21st amendment.
No.
No, no, you're kidding me!
Democratic California Governor Gavin Newsom wants a 28th amendment to the U.S.
Constitution related to gun restrictions.
But not everyone is on board.
His plan for an amendment would raise the minimum age to purchase a gun from 18 to 21.
It would also require universal background checks, set a quote reasonable waiting period for gun purchases.
And also ban quote the civilian purchase of assault weapons all while keeping the Second Amendment unchanged.
Newsom said he plans to invoke Article 5 of the US Constitution by calling a convention of states to officially propose the amendment.
Oh, it's the Convention of States again.
How lame.
Well, while they're at it, why don't you abolish the Electoral College?
While you've got all the states all together.
Well, there's a bunch of people thinking, once you get those states together, you can start submitting these things, but they still have to be passed by too many people.
This is just showboating.
And this is not going to get him elected president.
When is he going to run?
Isn't he the anointed person?
I thought so.
He doesn't know what to do.
Isn't he the anointed person?
I thought so.
Yeah, well.
Oh, man.
Somebody told him no.
No, no, no.
Not your turn.
Whoever's running this show told him no.
Not your turn.
Coming up next on No Agenda Stream and thetrollroom.io and on your app if you keep it running there, Nick the Rad Radio.
And he will be interviewing Mike Reilly.
How about that?
Two plugs in one show.
That's surprising.
End of show mixes.
We got some doozies for you.
Thanks to Jesse Coy Nelson, Deez Laff, Tom Starkweather, and the brilliant Sir Chris from Down Under who is coming back after a long sabbatical.
He's been a little overboard, but he's feeling good.
We've been chatting.
He thanks everybody for asking him to come back.
We love you.
We miss you, Sir Chris.
Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, in FEMA Region No.
6, in the morning everybody, my name is Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We return on Sunday with another two, three, whatever hours of media deconstruction for your pleasure.
Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA.
Until then, adios mofoza, hooey hooey, and such.
There are three heads.
Thank you.
Bye.
Who put them there?
Did you think I wouldn't care?
Even one would be bad.
Who put them there?
Did you think I wouldn't care?
Even one would be bad.
And two are too many.
But there are three.
.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Three heads on my desk.
My boss walked by.
I asked him why the heads were at my desk.
And he told me they need to get back to their bodies.
I said, I understand that.
Why are they at my desk?
And he told me, well, I don't know, Dale.
There's a lot of strange things happening.
Hence another place that you've been crapped and tricked and brainwashed.
AI doing work up in the sky meeting in the cloud trying to unplug it's not allowed because our government would love the constant connectionism saying the quiet part out loud is just a given meetings to decide who can go outside have you been deemed essential by the pandemic worldwide The way they nudge the public, yo, I don't want none of it.
George Girard, UConn's own, looking fresh and fit.
Getting advice from two clowns, yo, I don't want none of it.
The higher education and lower indoctrination is what the whole nation seems to be facing.
Well, please, call me crazy.
Man, Brit stuff, light in the loafers.
I've had enough, cause it's testosterone declining, and men are hardly so buff.
The other day I noticed Issa Rae and Isha Sey.
Who you rootin' for?
Five years ago it hasn't changed and it never will.
Here we go.
We don't wanna grow.
When I say we, I mean she.
Voice white, whistle right.
I mean promise to be a goner.
With no sacred honor.
Hating whitey is a sport.
Everyone can play along.
Bending opinions to contort.
Body you on D on OKC.
Similar to Lou Gansdort.
She's the best.
Damn good.
All our producers are fabulous.
and the best producers in the universe.
Two standards of justice in this country.
So now, let me assist for the purposes of more transparency on this subject.
Director Wray placed redactions on a document that's already unclassified.
It's filled with redactions.
Had maybe two or three half-inch redactions.
Not old sentences redacted, as I'm told.
The document in the SCIF is, thanks to the political infections within the Biden Justice Department and the FBI, we were well along the road.
For that to happen.
And I want everybody to remember that I have read the un-redacted version, except for a couple or three half-inch redactions, I say.
Thank you very much.
I healed the floor.
I had a swollen amygdala.
Maybe my parents didn't know how widespread swollen amygdala is.
While swollen amygdala shrinks for most, that wasn't the case for me.
Maybe they didn't know I would end up a douchebag SJW because of my swollen amygdala.
Maybe if they'd known there's a podcast to help protect me when I was 11 or 12, maybe my parents just didn't know.