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1553: Ample Bosom

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	Boots on the ground, baby.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, May 7th, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1553.
	This is no agenda.
	Back on the OTG train and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're all congratulating Adam on his six Tony nominations.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	What is this?
	What?
	What Tony nomination?
	That's not you?
	No!
	What are you talking about?
	Oh, ever since you retired the Mo Facts Show, the Broadway play Ain't No Mo has gotten six Tony nominations.
	The show is not retired yet.
	We have nine more episodes.
	Oh, Ain't No Mo is something else.
	I knew you didn't know this guy Jordan E. Cooper.
	It seemed unlikely.
	You actually know what the Tony nominations are.
	The Chonies.
	The Chonies.
	Chonies.
	The Chonies.
	The Chonies.
	I do.
	I know.
	Is, uh, any spectacular nominations except the Ain't No Mo', anything else?
	Ain't No Mo'.
	Six.
	Uh, the big one, I guess, is something like It Hot's gonna be the, take away a lot of awards.
	Have you seen any of these?
	Any of these?
	No, I haven't been in New York to the last season, so I didn't see any of them.
	Who wants to go to New York?
	Why?
	Not me.
	No.
	They're standing in the subway tracks.
	Tina's going to New York to visit with her daughter for Mother's Day.
	Oh, that should be rich.
	What is that supposed to mean?
	I don't even want to know.
	I don't even want to know.
	But to be honest, she's a little, you know, she's a little, a little anxious about it.
	Why?
	Well, by the way, as an adult, you live most of your life in Chicago.
	Because what do you see about New York?
	Nothing but exactly what you said.
	Crap.
	It's true.
	People, you know... But Chicago?
	I mean, come on.
	You might as well join the two city sister cities.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, it's not like a problem.
	It's, you know, you just go there and you just put up with it.
	I know.
	Stinks like the old days.
	We got knights everywhere looking out for her.
	Migs.
	All the gangsters of New York are looking out for her.
	Which is wild.
	Dominican gangsters.
	Everybody.
	Norwich and the nation is badass.
	We got great people.
	I had a wedding yesterday, so unfortunately I couldn't see all... You got married again?
	I know!
	A friend of ours' daughter got married.
	So unfortunately I couldn't watch all of the fabulous proceedings of the coronation.
	Which I know was a once-in-a-lifetime event.
	There was nothing to record, but I do have some comments.
	Oh, I have some clips, actually.
	Okay, we have clips.
	My comment is basically, they had all these marching soldiers and the guys with the red costumes and the big hairy hats and regular soldiers.
	They were all out of step and out of line.
	I saw some of that.
	It was unbelievably bad.
	I mean I was like I flipped over from you know China TV where they're just lockstep perfect to these guys wandering around.
	It was just pathetic.
	I don't know if it was that bad.
	I did notice a couple of guys out of step.
	It was pretty bad.
	I have a highlight supercut.
	God of compassion and mercy, whose son was sent not to be served, but to serve.
	God save the King!
	God save the King!
	I, William, Prince of Wales, pledge my loyalty to you, and faith and truth I will bear unto you, as your liege man of life and limb.
	So help me God.
	Receive this ring, a symbol of royal dignity, and a sign of the covenant sworn this day.
	Grant that I may be a blessing to all thy children of every faith and belief, that together we may discover the ways of gentleness and be led into the paths of peace.
	Thank you.
	You know, so people kept sending me this one particular clip, and I don't know if it's fake, Or if we're just hearing it wrong?
	Listen to this.
	This is when they're walking in the Westminster Abbey into the church.
	Listen to this.
	By God's vagina, Camilla!
	Listen to this.
	Why not Regina Camilla?
	Why not Regina Camilla?
	Now, what do you hear them singing?
	I I can't understand a word of it.
	Well... I mean, it seems... it must be... They're singing, I Like Vagina Camilla.
	That can't be right.
	But if you... You think it can't be right?
	But now that you've heard it, you can't unhear it.
	That's the point.
	Okay, play it again.
	Alright, hold on, I'm playing it directly from a YouTube because I forgot to clip it and just remembered it.
	I like the, the, the preamble is great though.
	The dynamite band.
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	Someone's got to set us straight on what they're really saying.
	Sounds like Silence Regina.
	I don't hear the V. Well, when the words are on the screen, your brain goes, oh yeah.
	Well yeah, if the words are on the screen.
	I don't know.
	I'd like to know.
	I'm sure it's Latin or something that we just, our ears aren't attuned to.
	It's cute, though.
	It's a cute catch.
	So, you know, of course, the M5M was out in droves.
	They loved it.
	ABC.
	Free trip.
	Well, I don't know if all of them were actually out there at all.
	You have to turn your speakers down just a little because people are complaining about it now.
	Hey, people!
	Stop complaining!
	Shove it!
	The Coronation Concert takes place in Windsor.
	It's going to be right outside the castle.
	There's going to be a Union Jack-shaped stage and some big stars performing.
	No doubt about it, Lionel Richie will be dancing this weekend.
	Richie, a longtime friend of King Charles and chairman for the global... By the way, Lionel Richie, anybody can get him for your birthday.
	I think he charges $200,000.
	Lots of people get Lionel Richie.
	I can't get him.
	I can't afford that.
	I know, but it's not like, oh, this is so special.
	Lionel Richie is performing at the coronation.
	Ooh, he never performs.
	No, he's everywhere every weekend.
	The guy just rakes it in.
	He does like 45 minutes, you know, he does dancing on the ceiling, and then, hello!
	And then, you know, he's good to go.
	And then he's dancing on the ceiling again, and everyone's dancing in the aisles.
	It's beautiful.
	And chairman for the club.
	You milk it.
	Yes, well, good on him.
	Ambassadors of the Prince's Trust is set to perform center stage on... Do you remember when Lionel Richie was cheating on his wife and she found out?
	She walked in on him and then she beat him naked all the way down the street.
	Remember that story?
	I forgot about that.
	You're right, yeah.
	Just wanted to give everyone that visual for a moment.
	This is history.
	We've known each other for a very long time.
	Richie's also part of the exclusive guest list to the coronation at Westminster Abbey.
	I plan on showing up.
	I'm just going to walk down and every once in a while they'll tell me, Mr. Richard, just get out of the aisle.
	The king is coming.
	Get out of the aisle!
	I mean, this is just a moment.
	The palace have announced a few later additions.
	Get out!
	Get out of the aisle, Richie!
	Tom Cruise and his busy schedule.
	He can't go.
	How come Joe Biden can't go?
	I have an answer for that.
	What?
	Wait a second.
	China?
	Tom Cruise and his busy schedule, he can go.
	How come Joe Biden can't go?
	I have an answer for that.
	A few later editions with Tom Cruise, Nicole Scherzinger.
	We've got Winnie the Pooh joining for his own skit.
	What?
	China?
	Xi Jinping?
	We've got Winnie the Pooh joining for his own skit.
	It's almost reminiscent of some of those magic moments we saw during the Platinum Jubilee.
	Magic!
	I think Charles is hoping that it'll bring some magic to his moment too.
	He's a dead man walking.
	I give him two years.
	This was just a dress rehearsal for William and Kate.
	You know, I have the same sense of this.
	Yeah.
	It feels like this is just a preamble to the real Great Reset.
	And I don't want to be morbid about it, but I can't help but think that.
	It's like, you know, this guy, they just gave it to him because he waited so long.
	And we needed to practice because when Will and Kate, when they take the throne, it's going to be, it's not going to be not my king.
	People will love that.
	We'll have a new, you know, a new Lady Di era in a way.
	Anyway, why did Joe Biden, our president, now Jill Biden was there.
	She, she showed up, but that means the president was there.
	Questions about why President Biden is not in attendance himself.
	He was asked overnight by our Stephanie Ruhle.
	Here's what he had to say.
	You did not go to England this weekend for the coronation.
	No, I didn't.
	But I did speak to the King.
	We're going to be going to a NATO conference in Europe.
	And I told him I'd stop either on the way there or on the way back.
	Now stop in.
	How rude is that?
	Hey man, I can't come to your party of the century.
	And by the way, I heard Lionel Richie's performing.
	But I had him at my birthday party, so I don't care.
	Yeah, I'll stop by on another trip.
	Yeah, maybe on the way back.
	You know, I'll catch you on the rebound, Chuck.
	That is so insulting.
	It really is.
	Let's just listen to him say that again.
	I mean, what happened to our special relationship?
	You know, are we supposed to have a special relationship with the UK?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And it's over.
	But I did speak to the King.
	We're going to be going to a NATO conference in Europe, and I told him I'd stop either on the way there or on the way back.
	You know, it depends on my timing.
	You know, I got stuff to do.
	Very important things to do.
	Discuss what he really is passionate about, the environment.
	So there you have President Biden explaining why he's not there, and Savannah, all eyes will be on that meeting, that visit that we expect the President to have.
	And one of the key themes and passions that they share is their passion for the environment, Savannah.
	Oh yes, Joe Biden's passion for the environment, please.
	Give it up, lady.
	And then, of course, we had the Royal Rift.
	You know, what's going to happen?
	Would Harry show up?
	He did.
	Sans Mégon.
	And, you know, of course, they all came out onto the balcony.
	And who's going to stand where?
	And all these important things.
	A lot of news that we are following, but we do begin this half hour.
	It's news!
	News!
	A lot of news that we are following, but we do begin this half hour with a closer look at the Royal Rift on this Coronation Day.
	Prince Harry attending his father's ceremony, but relegated to the spectator role.
	ABC's Lama Hassan has more.
	This morning, all eyes on these two brothers supporting their father, the newly unofficially minted King.
	William and Harry reuniting publicly for the first time since the late Queen's funeral.
	During the ceremony, playing very different roles.
	William, now the first in line to the throne, playing a big part.
	Presenting the King with the royal robes and paying homage to him.
	A flying visit for the prince who came on his own.
	His wife Megan stayed at home to be with their kids.
	Harry attending the coronation service before...
	I mean, not to have rocks and bottles thrown at her.
	...with their kids.
	Harry attending the coronation service before jetting off back to California to be with his own family, making it in time for his son Archie's fourth birthday.
	The fact that she's not coming to the coronation, I think it's probably been a relief to some of the other members of the family.
	They won't say that, but I'm sure it will be.
	Everyone's such a riot.
	That's the marbles in your mouth.
	Of course, not everybody was happy.
	And if you weren't happy, you got arrested.
	Thousands of people lined the streets of London to try to catch a glimpse of King Charles and Queen Camilla on their coronation day.
	But not everybody was happy about the event.
	There were anti-monarchy demonstrations in some British cities.
	In London, several hundred protesters in Trafalgar Square booed repeatedly during the coronation service as it was belayed to crowds.
	God save the King!
	- Three, four! - Protesters also chanted slogans, including Not my king!
	Not my king Now this was kind of interesting.
	These were professionally printed t-shirts, yellow, and professionally printed signs, made to look like they were hand-drawn.
	I did a little examination.
	And they were all paid for by labor.
	By the labor party.
	Well, the Labor Party's got the upper hand.
	I do have a clip of the results of the local elections, which is hurting labor.
	And there were some problems with that, too.
	People couldn't vote.
	There were irregularities, let's put it that way.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, any time that the labor side of things takes over, there are irregularities.
	Irregularities happen.
	All right.
	Oh, it's one of our favorites.
	This is MTD.
	British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's Conservative Party is facing a bleak set of local election results today.
	Voters turn away from his party amid surging inflation and stagnant economic growth.
	But what I am going to carry on doing is delivering on the people's priorities.
	Halving inflation, growing the economy, reducing debt, cutting waiting lists and stopping the boats.
	That's what people want us to do.
	That's what I'm going to keep on doing.
	Did he say stopping the vote?
	Either that or stopping the boat.
	It sounded like stopping the boat.
	It's delivering on the people's priorities.
	Halving inflation, growing the economy, reducing debt, cutting waiting lists and stopping the boats.
	That's what people want us to do.
	Stopping the boats.
	Stopping the boats.
	The boats with the immigrants.
	Stopping the boats.
	That's what people want.
	They don't want to stop the boat.
	Stopping the boats.
	That's what people want us to do.
	That's what I'm going to keep hard at doing.
	And make no mistake, we are on course for a Labour majority at the next general election.
	The results showed the Conservatives suffering a net loss of about 460 seats.
	The main opposition Labour party added about 260 seats and the Liberal Democrats gained about 140 seats.
	Sunak said local election results so far showed that people wanted his ruling party to deliver on their priorities.
	Opposition Labour Party leaders Keir Sturmer says the Labour Party is on course for a majority at the next general election.
	He describes Sunak's party as the problem, not the solution.
	Yeah.
	They're out.
	So there were a couple of interesting people.
	The stunner of the coronation was Penny Mordaunt.
	Mordaunt.
	Penny Mordaunt.
	I'm not quite sure how to pronounce it.
	Now, she was Liz Truss's leader of the House of Commons.
	I'm not quite sure what her position is now, but she got to carry... I guess she's the president of the Privy Council.
	What's the Privy Council?
	We've talked about the Privy Council before.
	What's the Privy Council again?
	It's a bunch of... It's a drinking club.
	It's a bunch of guys in the... They have a little meeting every once in a while.
	Well, she got to carry the sword.
	King Charles's priceless sword.
	Made for George IV's 1821 coronation.
	But it was what she was wearing.
	I think it's got the world's biggest diamond in it.
	Is that in the sword?
	I think it's in the tip of the sword.
	I watched one whole KQED special on all the jewels.
	Yeah, I know Africa wants their diamond back.
	Yeah, everybody wants stuff back.
	Screw them.
	Anyway, so she's wearing this blue outfit, which was, I mean, it really showcased her ample bosom.
	I'm just reading what the British press is saying.
	Ample bosom.
	That's one way of putting it.
	I'm reading what the British press is saying.
	Ample bosom.
	Ample bosom.
	We got to start using that term.
	It's shocking, shocking, I tell you.
	There was a couple of observations.
	I'm sure that these colors are meant to be, but did you notice that the floor of Westminster had yellow and blue?
	Which, whether it's intended or not, is subliminal for Ukraine.
	It was kind of odd.
	I don't know why the yellow and blue, I didn't look into it.
	But I couldn't help it.
	I do know that they cleaned the thing recently to an extreme to get all the colors back up.
	But are those two carpets there?
	I mean, is that the color carpet that they have?
	I thought it was the tiles.
	I thought it was carpet.
	It must signify something.
	The blue with the ample bosom lady had the blue.
	Yeah, coronation carpet resembles Ukrainian flag.
	This is from the Telegraph.
	Oh, I'm not alone!
	Oh, this was the theme.
	Some of the guests, including U.S.
	First Lady Jill Biden, also wore yellow and blue as they arrived.
	Ugh.
	It's a setup.
	It sure sounds like it.
	That stinks.
	I don't know if that was... if that's... That's very odd.
	I don't see any other reason for it.
	They just had yellow and blue carpets.
	And everyone's remarking about... Oh, maybe they're celebrating Sweden.
	Doubtful.
	And then... And what others?
	What several people point out to me is the ghoulish figure.
	Oh, could it be the ruggeds from Ikea?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Sorry.
	It was like that three-sided thing they had to put together from Ikea as well.
	You know, that hides the chair or whatever.
	Or the secret stuff that Charles is doing behind it.
	Did you see the hooded ghoul?
	No, I did not see the hooded ghoul.
	You've got to look it up.
	So Zelensky was there.
	So all of a sudden you see behind the arch, as people have already come through the arch, you see almost like, um, what's the guy with the, with the, with the, you know, the death.
	The Grim Reaper.
	The Grim Reaper.
	Thank you.
	That guy.
	A hooded ghoul, just like the Grim Reaper with a long cane.
	Like in front of him and just like walks from one side of the arch to the other.
	It was very odd.
	I mean, I, maybe it was the janitorial service, but it was, it was, it was, it was interesting.
	You should look that up.
	I put it in the, in the show notes.
	It's very interesting to see the hooded ghoul, the hooded ghoul.
	Um, yeah, so I think that's kind of, kind of all that we had to say.
	I think we covered it.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	I'm happy for King Charles, you know, but it still is so, the whole thing is so odd.
	It's really, really strange just to see this in 2023.
	The interesting thing was, I made this observation.
	They spent a lot of time on these different overnight channels that were playing this thing live, and they had a lot of trying to humanize him.
	And they went out of their way to humanize him.
	He was a comedian.
	He did a bunch of jokes when he was in high school.
	He was in a play.
	He could have been an actor.
	Sure.
	And you go on and on with all this humanization.
	And I'm thinking, when did they ever start to...
	Isn't the idea of a monarch and that whole kind of thing is something that's supra-human?
	It's not... Above human, yes.
	Above human.
	Yeah, above human.
	You're not supposed to humanize them and bring them down to the level of the people.
	Yes, I think you're right.
	He also becomes the head of the Church of England, which I think is supposed to supersede the Pope somehow.
	In England.
	Yeah, in England.
	Exactly, in England.
	So, I found that peculiar, because it seems that you want to make him rise above, not drag him down, and they were doing everything they could, and it seemed as though it was that PR woman, that PR woman who was trying to get, you know, he's a man of the people, he understands the poor, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, it's bullcrap, and when I think that If you're going to be in a monarchy system, you don't want to degrade your monarch.
	No, but... Wouldn't you push him in the other direction?
	I don't get it.
	Well, it's supposed to go the other way.
	You're supposed to be awesome, like the queen, and then you put on your wellies and you go out in the flood.
	And then you are humbled.
	See, that's the part that baffles me.
	Why would you want that?
	I don't want my king in the flood.
	My king just got washed away!
	What was he doing there?
	What an idiot!
	You know, I'm sure we have some listeners who actually like this stuff.
	You know, there are monarchist type people and I would like them to explain to me my complaint, which is why are they trying to drag the king down to the level of the impoverished?
	He's a king.
	He should be above it all.
	He should be seen as a, you know, a supra, the good word, human.
	Yeah, I'm with you.
	I don't know.
	I mean, usually they do that after a while, you know.
	But again, I'm sorry.
	I just don't feel like this is going to last very long.
	Just don't feel like it's going to last long for Charles.
	William and Kate, even I would watch William and Kate's coronation.
	That'll be fun.
	Then you're going to have all of Hollywood coming.
	That'll be a super party.
	Lionel Richie gets backseat for that.
	We bring out the hot people, the new ones, the big stars.
	The big stars like Lizzo?
	Boy, you're on a roll today!
	Damn!
	Alright, I want to talk about Ukraine and Russia because there's a lot going on there and we have an ongoing discussion over the future of the war.
	I'm of the opinion that the war is ending.
	We need to stop this as soon as possible and focus all of our purchasing and sales, mainly sales, although Military Industrial Complex likes to sell to us, to the people, so we buy it.
	But also to Taiwan, they just recently had a big sale there.
	It was a pre-sale, a trunk sale.
	We sold them some F-16s, the biggest sale so far of the year.
	That's where all the big money is.
	And you believe, with some merit I will say, not completely baseless, That Joe Biden will do anything he can to get boots on the ground to secure his presidency, which he has now announced, or he's running for president again.
	He's announced, didn't he?
	He announced.
	Oh yeah, he announced.
	He announced with a video, that crappy video that was, he couldn't even get through it.
	They had to cut it and cut it and cut it.
	You're the one that said it was like a hundred cuts.
	Deaths by a hundred cuts.
	Do you have a clip of that?
	No, we played it already on the show.
	Oh, okay.
	Let's go to CBS.
	Nora O'Donnell.
	Russian authorities today are blaming the United States for an alleged assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin.
	The Biden administration calls Russia's new claim... Wait, what did she say?
	Did I hear that right at the beginning?
	Russian authorities today are blaming the United States for an alleged assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin.
	The Biden administration calls Russia's new claim ludicrous.
	Ludicrous?
	The National Security Council...
	Did you hear the emphasis Nora put on that?
	Ludicrous!
	This is her problem.
	She's gonna get fired because she can't seem to keep herself out of the reporting.
	It's odd that she does that.
	You know, if I was in executive mode... Pull her aside.
	I'd say, it blurs, I'd say, hey, knock that off and smile more.
	She has a very charming smile.
	I don't know why she doesn't use it more.
	She does at the end of the show.
	Yeah, here we go.
	Russian authorities today are blaming the United States for an alleged assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin.
	The Biden administration calls Russia's new claim ludicrous.
	The National Security Council spokesman John Kirby says the Kremlin is lying.
	There are questions from the United States on if there even was an attack with Russia's president as the target.
	Ukraine says Russia staged the whole thing.
	Overnight, several Ukrainian cities were attacked by drones.
	I love this.
	I love the, just throw away, oh, several Ukrainian cities were attacked by drones.
	What kind of drones?
	Reaper drones?
	Are we talking all these little, um... The little bitty ones with the bomb attached.
	The little cardboard drones, which turns out most of those are made in Australia.
	The cardboard ones.
	And as far as I can tell, only the Ukrainians have the little remote control plane drones.
	I don't think Russia uses those.
	So when she says several Ukrainian cities were attacked... There's no information here.
	It's an information hole.
	Vapid report.
	Information hole.
	Let's try ABC.
	Russia tonight hurling new threats aimed at the US.
	The Deputy Foreign Minister warning they're quote, on the verge of an open armed conflict with the United States.
	What?
	What?
	Are we on the verge of an open armed... whatever that means?
	This is our reporting.
	Yes.
	Our reporting because we are on the verge of sending troops.
	I'm going to refute this later.
	Russia tonight hurling new threats aimed at the US.
	The deputy foreign minister warning they're quote on the verge of an open armed conflict with the United States.
	Again, claiming Ukraine carried out a drone attack on the Kremlin Wednesday, attempting to assassinate Russian President Vladimir Putin at the direction of the U.S.
	White House spokesman John Kirby firmly denying the allegations that the U.S.
	was involved as, quote, a blatant lie.
	Still, Russia warning of possible retaliation, saying it will respond when and wherever it sees fit.
	On the battlefield, nightmarish new video reportedly showing Russian incendiary bombs burning in a Ukrainian-held pocket of Bakhmut.
	And a potentially major development on that battlefield today.
	The head of Moscow's Wagner mercenary group says he's pulling his troops out of the eastern Ukrainian city because they're not being supplied with enough ammunition.
	In a video statement, Yevgeny Prigozhin calling his Russian leadership cowards and saying his troops will leave Bakhmut next week on May 10th.
	Western officials say half of the 20,000 Russian troops killed in Ukraine since December were Wagner fighters in Bakhmut.
	Okay.
	I think they misreported that story.
	Okay.
	He said he would.
	He didn't say he will.
	It's very vague.
	I got one clip from NTD.
	The Wagner Group guy is irked.
	Turning now to the Ukraine war.
	The leader of Russia's Wagner Group mercenary force said today that his forces would leave the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut.
	Russia has been trying to capture the city since last summer.
	We were put on what's known as Artificial Ammunition Deficit, ammunition hunger.
	The ammunition is freely available in the depots.
	We were receiving only 30% of what we needed.
	For that reason, our losses were significantly higher than they should have been.
	Prokhozhin said they would pull back on May 10th.
	He asked defense chiefs to insert regular army troops in their place.
	Wagner has been spearheading Russia's long and costly attempt to capture Bakhmut.
	Prokhozhin said three weeks ago that his men controlled more than 80% of the city, but Ukrainian defenders have held out, and Prokhozhin has vented increasing anger at what he describes as a lack of support from the Russian defense establishment.
	Bakhmut has taken on huge symbolic importance for both sides because of the sheer intensity and duration of the fighting there.
	You know, we really haven't gotten a good background on the Wagner Group and why they're there.
	This is a good point.
	I mean, all of a sudden, oh, Wagner Group, Wagner Group.
	It's kind of like Academy or Blackwater, formerly known as Blackwater.
	Is that what I'm supposed to think of the Wagner Group?
	And the Wagner group, they're like a fair-weather friend.
	Oh, you don't give us bullets, we go somewhere else!
	I'm angry!
	And who cares?
	I mean, is that all that Russia has?
	It just sounds like that's all that Russia has, is the Wagner group.
	Yeah, there's something fishy about this Wagner group.
	And all of that just seems moot compared to this next story covered by both ABC and NPR.
	Now, the Patriot missiles, Which several European countries have given their Patriot missiles.
	We've given our Patriot missile.
	Banks.
	What do we know about the Patriot missiles?
	Are they great?
	Are they effective?
	They're considered lousy and they don't work.
	Well, listen to this story.
	New images capturing the battle for Ukraine unfolding in the skies over Kiev.
	The country's Air Force tonight with a spectacular claim that for the first time they've shot down a Russian hypersonic missile, which Vladimir Putin once called invincible, with an American-made Patriot missile system.
	The Russian hypersonic, known as the Kinzhal, can travel at more than five times the speed of sound and has a range of over a thousand miles.
	Ukraine only recently deploying the Patriot, the most technologically advanced and costly air defense system in the world.
	Each Patriot missile, almost three million dollars.
	But the Patriot's ability to shoot down a hypersonic missile has never been publicly demonstrated.
	I have my doubts about this story.
	Boy, do you?
	Because I do.
	I have my doubts about the Patriot.
	This sounds like bull crap.
	A hypersonic missile.
	The Patriot missile, notorious dog at three million bucks a pop.
	Costly is the word he used.
	We also don't know if this Russian missile is actually hypersonic.
	And yeah, the Russian missile, who knows what that was.
	Is it possible?
	I'm just going to throw this out there.
	You can't get something going over 5,000 miles an hour or 44,000 to 5,000 miles an hour.
	I don't think so.
	Not at that altitude.
	No.
	It would burn.
	Is it possible this is all just a wag the dog media war?
	No, I think this last thing wasn't a wag the dog thing, it was let's sell some more Patriots to some other suckers.
	Yeah, well, let's listen if NPR is in on the sale.
	Overseas, Ukraine says it used a newly acquired U.S.
	Patriot missile battery to shoot down a Russian hyper... I gotta read something from the troll room.
	Alright, listen to this.
	Ice Cube.
	If the hypersonic missile is not very maneuverable, then the Patriot has a chance with a software upgrade.
	Please.
	I think it would be a firmware upgrade, not a software upgrade.
	Hey, man, we can get you a hypersonic missile.
	Just let me upgrade the firmware.
	Yeah, no.
	Overseas, Ukraine says it used a newly acquired U.S.
	Patriot missile battery to shoot down a Russian hypersonic weapon over the capital of Kiev last week.
	Oh, that's sweet.
	Scott Newman has more.
	In attacks on Ukraine in recent months, Russia has increasingly employed one of its latest high-tech missiles, the Kenzel or Dagger.
	Wait!
	Wait, stop!
	Stop!
	When was it tested against interception?
	I don't know.
	They've been firing these things off left and right and they've been impossible to intercept?
	I don't know.
	Sounds like a... By the way, I have the sales pitch that they didn't use.
	The guy with the software upgrade.
	The new Patriot missile got the hypersonic missile using AI.
	AI, yes!
	What are we thinking, people?
	Curry Dvorak Consulting Group to the rescue once again.
	Yes, we have... This is... You're so right.
	These guys are behind the times.
	Military-Industrial Complex, hire us.
	We will help you.
	This is exactly right.
	The new Patriot.
	Yes, we go now to General Dvorak, who's going to explain how it was possible for this Patriot missile, often known as the dog of war, to actually intercept the hatchet, whatever it was called.
	Yeah, the hatchet comes down.
	Well, the AI, which stands for artificial intelligence, can tell, can adjust the sighting and targeting So far in advance that before the missile is actually launched by the Russians, it will know where it's going to go.
	That's right.
	The dagger.
	The dagger.
	I'm sorry.
	The dagger.
	Yeah.
	We sheath the dagger.
	We're not afraid of your dagger, Russia.
	We've got Patriot AI.
	Traveling at up to 10 times the speed of sound, the missile had proved nearly impossible to intercept.
	But Ukraine's Air Force, armed with US-supplied Patriot missiles that arrived last month, Says it destroyed a Kenzel during a Russian strike on Kiev earlier this week.
	It's thought to be the first time Ukraine has managed to intercept a Russian hypersonic missile.
	In October, the U.S.
	agreed to supply Patriots to Ukraine to aid in defending its skies against the Kremlin's air and missile attacks.
	Yet there's drones attacking multiple cities in Ukraine and they can't stop them.
	They can't stop those, no.
	And my understanding is that most of the missiles that were hitting Ukraine over time were cruise missiles, not this crazy hypersonic thing.
	Was there any evidence that they were being pounded by these things in the past?
	I don't know this.
	Well, we know why this is a story because we need to develop hypersonic missiles.
	That's the whole idea.
	But then again, if the Patriot can bring him down, you know, maybe we're going to have to do a hyper-hypersonic.
	You know, we were talking about the just war.
	They call this in Ukraine, you know, it's not a just war.
	This comes from, it's military ethics, just war theory.
	There's a whole Wikipedia page on it.
	Which has been studied by military leaders, theologians, ethicists, and policy makers.
	Consultants.
	It's doctrine to ensure that a war is morally justifiable through a series of criteria, all of which must be met for war to be considered just.
	Jus ad bellum, the right to go to war.
	And of course, this comes from ancient Egypt, and I mean, the Jihad was a just war.
	You get pretty excused to blow stuff up.
	I agree, I agree.
	I heard from our constitutional law professor, JJ he says the war of aggression in international law, which I'm like show me their international law book We sent me stuff, but it was not a not a not a book that says this is international law because that just doesn't exist The supreme crime supreme crime is a war of aggression That means an unprovoked attack Such as the primary charge against heads of Germany in Japan after World War two
	You mean all those provoked attacks?
	Well, yeah.
	I'm just defining it.
	But of course, there was a lot of provocation.
	I mean the attack on Pearl Harbor was provoked.
	Of course.
	It was in fact provoked.
	Yeah, it was.
	Tell people.
	It doesn't mean that wasn't chicken shit.
	Tell us how it was provoked.
	Well, it was provoked because we did cut off all kinds of trade.
	We got into a trade war for all practical purposes with Japan.
	Exactly.
	And we specifically, we provoked them.
	Yeah.
	And I would say that we were cutting them off here and there, cutting them off at the knees here and there, which you're trying to do to China.
	And it provoked them.
	And so they, you know, joined up forces with the Nazis.
	Caught us into the war by bombing Pearl Harbor which we, some people believe, I think was some justification that we knew it was coming.
	So that we could get into the war.
	Sounds horrible.
	And that's why we moved all our big carriers.
	We left all the junky boats behind, moved the big carriers off the road.
	But just coincidence, luckily our big carriers weren't anywhere near the place.
	That's a lucky coincidence.
	That part of the story is not told in the Pacific War Museum here in Fredericksburg.
	But that the carriers were moved out of the way?
	No.
	No, it's not told.
	Not told.
	It's a, by the way, that's a dynamite museum.
	If you ever want to see, it's just a great museum.
	The Pacific War Museum in Fredericksburg, because of course, Admiral Nimitz grew up in Fredericksburg.
	And the Nimitz was a huge aircraft carrier that won the war for our boys!
	Well, Nimitz almost, I could say, won the Pacific War by himself almost.
	Just him, him and his pipe.
	Him and his buddies.
	Him and his buddies.
	So, Ann Applebaum, do you have anything on Ukraine?
	Any other stuff before I go and blow you out of the water?
	Yeah, it's funny you ask knowing you have to listen, you see nothing.
	No, I don't really look at your list.
	I mean, I don't really care.
	Well, that's sweet of you.
	No, but I'm not supposed to.
	I'm not supposed to know what you're playing.
	I don't have the, you know, I guess the Wagner Group guy.
	I thought I had some Ukraine clips.
	I think I have some left over.
	Nope, I used them all.
	No, we're good to go.
	So Anne Applebaum is, she's kind of the immediate darling of this war.
	Yeah, we have to revisit who she is, because every time I look her up every so often, and every time I hear her name, she's a spook of some sort, or she's an Asian provocateur, or she's, I don't know what she is, and then I forget about her completely, and then you bring her up again, and I have to be reminded who she is.
	Because she keeps popping up everywhere as the expert.
	Now, of course, she writes for the Atlantic currently, but... Oh, the Atlantic!
	She is Polish-American, so, you know, she's been very involved in this because, you know, she's actually been in Poland and her... Oh, well, yeah.
	Polish.
	They hate the Russians.
	Isn't her husband or her boyfriend, he was the guy that when...
	When we blew up the Nord Stream, he said, thanks America, or some, I'm paraphrasing, thanks America, good job everybody.
	Reading from her Wikipedia page, she has written extensively about the history of communism, so that she would be a trans Maoist, she would be part of the system trying to drive us into communism.
	She's worked at The Economist, The Spectator, a member of the editorial board of the Washington Post.
	She won the coveted Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction for Gulag, a history published in 2004.
	Staff Writer for Atlantic, Senior Fellow at the Agora Institute, Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies.
	Yeah, I'd say Spook.
	Oh, Sidwell and Friends.
	Eh, Spook!
	Spook!
	Spook!
	I got another one.
	Yeah, she spent the summer in Leningrad.
	Yeah, she did.
	Sidwell Friends School is where all the Spook children go to, including my cousins.
	Oh, okay.
	So that's a giveaway.
	And she's Phi Beta Kappa.
	So she's not a dummy, which is what spooks love 580 cameras.
	And in 1989, just by coincidence, she drove from Warsaw to Berlin to report on the collapse of the Berlin Wall.
	Well, yeah, this girl is connected.
	And she has, you know, been writing a lot about Russia.
	St.
	Anthony's College, Oxford.
	I mean, she's probably in a Rhodes deal or something, who knows.
	She's been writing about Russia since the early 1990s.
	In 2000, she described the links between the then new president of Russia, Vladimir Putin, with former Soviet leader Yuri Andropov, the former KGB.
	Andropov.
	Andropov.
	In 2008 she began speaking about Putinism as an anti-democratic... Putinism, okay.
	Yeah, Putinism.
	Let me write that down.
	Have we ever used that as a title?
	Nope.
	Putinism.
	Ah, I don't care for it.
	So she... I like ample bosom as a title better.
	How do you spell bosom?
	B-O-S-O-M.
	Ample bosom.
	Okay.
	So she's an activist.
	Whether or not she's writing all this material is another question because we know that the agencies, plural, have plenty of writers that crank this up.
	I feel bad for these guys who write for somebody else and then their name is never mentioned.
	Ghost writers.
	Member of Council on Foreign Relations, on the board of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is a huge NGO funding outfit.
	Yeah, we should get money from them.
	Good luck.
	Member of the Institute for War and Peace Reporting's International Board of Directors.
	Isn't that Amy's outfit?
	I don't think so.
	Well, it's just the War and Peace Report.
	Senior adjunct fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis.
	Spook outfit.
	Led a major initiative aimed at countering Russian disinformation in Central and Eastern Europe.
	Okay, you get the idea.
	Yeah, geez, it's like holy moly.
	Yeah, so she's tied in, she's clued in, she knows what's going on, and as usual... And her spouse is this guy who is Radoslaw Sikorski, a Polish politician and journalist who's a member of the European Parliament, and he's some other thing, he's Polish, he's real Polish.
	And she's got a new book out.
	Oh, of course she does.
	You can crank those books up when you're not doing any work.
	The Twilight of Democracy explains with electrifying clarity why some of her contemporaries have abandoned liberal democratic ideas in favor of strongman cults, nationalist movements, or one-party states.
	Who is this?
	Name people that have gone for that.
	I'm just reading from her blurb.
	Stalin's war on Ukraine, she knows it all.
	She knows it all.
	Okay, so we've established what she is and who she is and what she does.
	And we have to do this over and over again.
	She's the perfect, and Ann Applebaum's her name.
	Okay.
	What?
	Sure.
	Well, you know, the CIA read names, everybody.
	And if you're going to start renaming people with some phony baloney names, I think Ann Applebaum is a pretty good choice.
	Let's see.
	Oh, and her most recent article in Atlantic was May 1st.
	The case for total liberation of Ukraine.
	Russia must be expelled from all of Ukraine's territory, including Crimea.
	This is what she may be writing and saying, you know, for all of her Washington D.C.
	hoity-toity people, but as we know, you put any of these, any of these intellectuals, anybody really, reporter, you put them on a podcast, what happens?
	They talk, they speak out of turn.
	They screw up.
	They say too much.
	They say way too much.
	And wouldn't you know it, she was on the Pivot podcast, which is the award-winning technology podcast.
	That doesn't really talk about technology.
	With your favorite of mine, Kara Swisher, and the Professor G. Scott Galloway.
	And they asked her specifically about ending the war in Ukraine.
	As I said, I think that the counter-offensive might not look like what we think it would look like.
	I mean, it may not be kind of brigades of tanks.
	What?
	I've been talking about this counter offensive and so she's a spokesperson for who knows who and she says hey you know it's not gonna look like we think which means it's not either not gonna happen or it's a huge dud or something's wrong.
	Gets better.
	look like what we think it would look like.
	I mean, it may not be kind of brigades of tanks, you know, streaming across the countryside.
	It may come in fits and starts.
	So there may be, as I said, I think the Ukrainians are going to be probing.
	Hold on a second again.
	I don't think be the interrupter in chief.
	Yeah, you can be.
	Go ahead.
	How does she know any of this?
	She's boots on the ground, man.
	Is she Defense Department?
	DIA?
	What's the deal?
	She's everything.
	She knows what's going on.
	This is what's so beautiful about the podcast.
	You know, she thinks, oh, I'm just going to chat with Kara and Scott the way we do at the club, at the Lib Joe Club.
	We're just going to talk a little bit and, well, as you know, blah, blah, blah.
	You know, this is how they talk when they're on the phone.
	She's forgetting that people listen to the podcast.
	She's very different when she's on MSNBC or CNN or even one of the networks.
	She's an official.
	She is a spokeshole for what's going on.
	She's written the book!
	It may come in fits and starts.
	She's a patriot!
	So there may be, as I said, I think the Ukrainians are going to be probing up and down the line.
	They're going to be looking for political opportunities as well as military opportunities.
	What part of their goal is to kind of destabilize the Kremlin, as we've already discussed, and create a sense in Russia that, you know, You know, just that the war is a waste of time.
	So this is very important because this is what she's part of, is these groups that, you know, go in and do subversive stuff in a country to, you know, coup, basically, color revolution.
	And they have had in their mind for the longest time, if only we can get Vladimir Putin to be thrown out by his own people.
	This is what they really want, but, you know, Putin threw out all the NGOs funded by USAID.
	Yeah, he saw it coming.
	He saw it, and when was that, in 2015 or something?
	He saw it.
	Oh, it was a while ago.
	They can't touch him.
	Yeah, so, but, you know, so, anyway, this is what the Ukrainians are now going to do.
	Kind of destabilize the Kremlin, as we've already discussed, and create a sense in Russia that, you know, You know, just that the war is a waste of time and a waste of energy and it should be stopped.
	That sounds like a plan!
	Yeah, let's convince Putinism that it's a waste of time!
	Remember, they don't need to occupy Moscow or conquer Moscow or take Russian territory.
	They have no ambitions like that.
	All they have to do is convince the Russians, you know, to go home.
	And really, the moment when the Russians withdraw their troops, the war is over.
	So there's no complicated territorial negotiation.
	There's nothing complex that needs to be done.
	They just need to leave and then it's over.
	But they're not going to leave, right?
	They're not going to.
	Well, I mean, they have left... Such a probing question, Kara Swisher.
	Well, well asked.
	...complex that needs to be done.
	They just need to leave and then it's over.
	But they're not going to leave, right?
	They're not going to leave.
	Well, I mean, they have left Kherson, they left Kharkiv, and they left, you know, the northern part of Ukraine that they conquered at the beginning of the war, so there is some precedent for thinking they could leave.
	So what if they just left Bakhmut?
	Then they could say, oh, it's over, they left!
	Maybe that's why all this focus is on that right now.
	Maybe this is the Wagner Group's job, because they're fair-weather friends, but oh, we give up, we have no support, there's nothing, we're leaving!
	And then they could declare victory.
	I mean, we still have to prosecute Vladimir Putin at the International Criminal Court.
	But that would be one area.
	She's definitely backpedaling on the war aspect of it.
	No, no, we just have to convince the people of Russia to tell Vladimir Putin it's a waste of time.
	We just need to pull out and then it's over.
	The war is over.
	Done!
	That's what I heard from Ann Applebaum.
	Did you hear that?
	I heard that the Ukrainians have got nothing.
	That's why there's not going to be a counteroffensive, which they've been putting off, it seems to me, an awful long time.
	But your thesis, because of the, it's possible that this Wagner Group guy, who's notorious for being a blowhard, according to other reports, you might be right, he may be setting it up for this withdrawal.
	And then the Russians, for one thing, they're leaving a mess.
	For sure.
	I mean, the areas that the Russians were dicking around in are messed up, and they've killed a lot of people.
	Yes, it's a very bad day for Ukrainians there.
	It's a bad day, and so... Well, let me give you some more.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what they could do.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me give you a little more, because this was a long interview.
	I'm all ears here.
	Go on.
	So now, listen to this about...
	The U.S.' 's support in all of this.
	What do we really want to have happen?
	How would you assess the West's support?
	Well, I'm Bob Scott Gobble.
	I'm a professor of marketing.
	I'm a professor of marketing at NYU and I'm going to talk war now with you.
	How would you assess the West's support for Ukraine and what are your views on it?
	Do you have a message for the West?
	Yeah, do you have a message?
	Can you give us the CIA's message and Ukraine?
	What are your views on it?
	Do you have a message for the West?
	So it's really impressive what we've done so far and it's a lot more than anybody had ever expected.
	And it's, that's also a reflection of the fact that the Ukrainians just impressed people.
	You know, Zelensky was good at communicating, but it wasn't just him.
	It was the, you know, the, you know, the Ukrainians fought back, you know, in Mariupol, for example, at the very, you know, early part of the war and in Kiev.
	And because of that... Mariupol is rubble-ized!
	We continue.
	Hey!
	Did you hear what I just heard?
	I didn't hear this before.
	Did you hear what I just heard?
	She said Kiev.
	Kiev!
	She said Kiev!
	Maybe she's a double agent.
	you know in Mariupol for example at the very you know early part of the war and in Kiev um and because hey hey hey did you hear what I just heard I didn't hear this before did you hear what I just heard she said Kiev she said Kiev maybe she's a double agent uh you know I I wonder about when you talk to people from the area they say you can pronounce it either way it's no big deal
	But we've been pronouncing Keeve recently only.
	Inundated by saying Keeve.
	It could be a part of the milieu she's in.
	Yeah, Russian, KGB, I think she's a double agent now.
	I think the CIA may be calling it Kiev for all we know.
	Oh, good one.
	The Ukrainians fought back, you know, in Mariupol, for example, at the very, you know, early part of the war and in Kiev.
	And because of that, you've had this galvanizing effect on Europe, on America, you know, and our willingness to give them weapons and help them is extraordinary.
	I would say one thing, which is that we always seem to be kind of three or four beats behind the situation.
	You know, eventually we will give them, you know, we said we wouldn't give them HIMARS, these long-range missiles, long-range artillery, you know, and then we did.
	You know, we said we wouldn't give them airplanes and now actually they're beginning to get some airplanes from European countries and we may eventually do that too.
	And it would help if we would give them more immediately.
	Because then we could maybe end the war more quickly.
	I mean, the danger of this war, obviously, is that it drags on, which is not good for them, not good for us, not good for anybody.
	And having a decisive plan to end it, you know, soon, isn't something...
	A decisive plan to end it, you know, soon isn't something I'm feeling from Washington.
	I mean, Washington remains, Washington meaning the White House, the Pentagon, lots of different people, remains nervous about the idea that the Ukrainians could win.
	In other words, could push the Russians out of at least their territory since February 22, taken since February 2022.
	But in more than that February, Except on a podcast, you dunce!
	since 2014.
	And there seems to be, there's still a lot of nervousness and I think that that's been a kind of drag on the war and there's a danger that that nervousness could extend the war.
	So they don't want them to win too much.
	They just want them to take...
	They seem to not, nobody says it quite like that and nobody will ever say that on the record, you know, even off the record they don't really say that.
	Except on a podcast, you dunce.
	Stupid woman.
	Just want them to take...
	They seem to not, Nobody says it quite like that.
	Nobody will ever say that on the record.
	You know, even off the record, they don't really say that.
	But yeah, it's pretty clear that they're nervous about what that would mean.
	And I think that's wrong because again, for the now, I think said this another time, it's a it's a political struggle as well as a military one.
	And the Russians have to be convinced that they can't win and that there's no opportunity for them to win.
	Now she said a lot there, and I think this could go either my way or your way.
	What I heard her say was, they want them to win, but let's not drag this out and try and get Crimea back.
	That's what I hear.
	What did you hear?
	Boots on the ground, baby!
	They're coming.
	That's possible.
	It's possible.
	It's possible.
	I think it could go either way.
	But I just like how podcasts are beautiful.
	Please.
	And I love hearing this on the number one award-winning tech podcast.
	That's what I love so much about it.
	Has there ever been any tech discussed on this award-winning tech podcast?
	Yes, all the time.
	It's mainly Kara and Scott, Professor G's hatred of Elon Musk.
	That is the extent of tech that they discuss.
	That's really it.
	That's all they do.
	Well, as long as they win awards, who cares?
	And they're very, very, very happy about their award.
	They think they're great.
	Who do they get an award from?
	Oh, it was a big award, like the Webbys or one of those.
	Ooh, a Webby!
	Ooh, a Webby!
	Have you ever won a Webby?
	No, Webby's are only really, we had the woman who started the Webby's on the old Silicon Spin show.
	She was actually part of, I think she worked at Tech TV for a while.
	And, um, very nice, nice, nice girl who was a kind of a pretty blonde that is kind of like over, over made up or quite attractive in a, in a funny kind of a, uh, high school-ish way.
	Then one of the girls, uh, that was also a staffer knew her in high school.
	And she was one of those good-looking mean girls, the one with the webby head.
	And she hated her.
	And I said, well, she's nice, and she was good on the show.
	She's very charming, sharp, and inventive, and managed to make these webbies work.
	I was very impressed by her.
	I know the guy who produces that, a friend of mine actually produces the award show itself and he's not cheap.
	He does very, very expensive stuff.
	I'm trying to find this award that they won.
	I can't seem to find it.
	We won an award?
	We should win the Peabody.
	You've said this several times.
	Hey, I'm still waiting for my production award, sound award.
	Don't worry, you're gonna get it.
	From whom?
	It's gonna have to be from the audio engineers or one of those guys.
	They never even televise those.
	Well, you're not going to get televised.
	What audio guy ever gets on television?
	I want Ricky Gervais to accept for me.
	Oh, I accept it on behalf of Curry.
	Meanwhile, the American public is not foolish.
	No, they know exactly what's going on.
	C-SPAN is where they air their grievances because, hey, it's television.
	Good morning, thanks for taking my call.
	I'm going to be 62 this year.
	Is it clip?
	Thanks for taking my call.
	I've never seen our country in such turmoil.
	You know, Donald Trump, as much as people hate that man, he's giving us a peek behind the curtains how things work.
	For example, your last segment regarding the war.
	It's funny how the media, they don't quite lie, they just give you one side of the story.
	And the media is in bed with the politicians, the National Security Agency spying on a president, changing elections.
	We have a war in Ukraine that was started by us.
	We blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline.
	We're letting millions of immigrants flow across our border.
	How do we blow up the Nord Stream pipeline?
	Well, again, if the media would do their job The New York Times journalist has wrote about this in detail.
	He wrote about it!
	And how this was done.
	Joe Biden even said it on television.
	Not quite said, we're going to do it, but he was asked, how are you going to stop the pipeline?
	He said, we got ways to do it.
	Now if the media would get on board, you guys are supposed to be, you're in the Constitution, you're protecting the people, but you're all in cahoots with the politicians, the establishment, the very powerful people, the Bilderberg people, right?
	All these billionaires that want this.
	Let's stop right there.
	They want us eating bugs.
	We got a Democrat.
	Right?
	Men are women.
	Women are men.
	Every institution is upside down.
	Nobody trusts anybody anymore.
	Get them all.
	Let's stop right there.
	Let's go to Sandra, who's calling from Tennessee on the independent line.
	All right.
	Hey, I'll give you a clip of the day for that guy.
	Oh, that's very kind of you.
	That guy's good.
	Now, that's the black Democrat host of that call-in show.
	He really hates Trump.
	Oh, well, let's play this one for him then.
	Just in.
	I don't even know how this gets out.
	Video of Trump's deposition.
	In the accusation... Oh yeah, this is great!
	This is only a little piece and there's, you know, it's on YouTube so they had to censor out the word rape for some reason.
	I guess YouTube kicks it off if you have rape in there.
	But it's the president being deposed about E.J.
	Carroll.
	When she first came out with this accusation a couple years ago, we played Several clips was so embarrassing that even Anderson Cooper would just like take this woman off the air When she was like, yeah rape is sexy.
	This is that she's a nutjob frightening and People are sending me these clips like it's new.
	Hey, look what Anderson Cooper did Yeah, four years ago whenever it was but here's a little piece of the deposition.
	Okay, then you go on to say in the statement and while I am not supposed to say it I will Why were you not supposed to say it?
	Because it's not politically correct to say.
	Read the next, go ahead, that she's not my type.
	Yeah, because it's not politically correct to say it, and I know that, but I'll say it anyway.
	She's accusing me of a woman that I have no idea who she is.
	The worst thing you can do, the worst charge, And you know it's not true, too.
	You're a political operative, also.
	You're a disgrace.
	But she's accusing me, and so are you, of... And it never took place.
	And I will tell you, I made that statement, and I said, while it's politically incorrect, she's not my type.
	And that's 100% true.
	She's not my type.
	You were referring to her physical looks, correct?
	Just the overall.
	I look at her, I see her, I hear what she says.
	Whatever.
	You wouldn't be a choice of mine either, to be honest with you.
	I hope you're not insulted.
	I would not, under any circumstances, have any interest in you.
	I'm honest when I say it.
	The only difference between me and other people is I'm honest.
	I was watching some of the analysis of this, and there are guys I know are Trump haters on certain networks, and they just thought it was the funniest thing.
	Because you have to admire a guy who is in a deposition and he's calling out the lawyer on the other side for being homely.
	So here, just for people, to refresh people's memory, it was 2019, June 27th is when we have the clip of E. Jean Carroll talking to Anderson Cooper about this rape and what she thinks of rape.
	You don't feel like a victim.
	I was not thrown out on the ground and ravished.
	The word rape carries so many sexual connotations.
	This was not sexual.
	It hurt.
	I think most people think of rape as a violent assault.
	I think most people think of rape as being sexy.
	Go to commercial.
	Think of the fantasies.
	We're just going to take a quick break.
	If you can stick around, we'll talk more on the other side.
	You're fascinating to talk to.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, wow.
	I forgot about that.
	That's horrible for that woman to say that.
	That's horrible.
	Horrible.
	And by the way, you know, in a dressing room, have you ever been?
	I've been in a number of these.
	They don't even have much anymore.
	But in these department stores at the dressing rooms, you can't throw somebody on the floor.
	There's no room in those things.
	Not like a lounge.
	You haven't been into the women's dressing rooms.
	They've definitely got lounges in there.
	This party's got champagne bars.
	They've got all kinds of stuff going on.
	You're in the wrong store.
	Meanwhile, it looks like MSNBC is definitely trying to take down President Biden.
	As you said, the word is out.
	It's take down Biden time.
	In less than four weeks, the government's going to run out of money.
	And so many of these economic wins could fall by the wayside.
	As President, what are you going to do to help us avoid default?
	Look.
	Not a single solitary Congress has ever reneged on a debt.
	The debt is not a debt that I accumulated.
	The debt is not a debt that occurred over the last several years.
	It's 200 years, the debt.
	200 years.
	And the idea that we wouldn't pay our debt is just bizarre.
	I've always noticed this.
	I remember Dave Weiner would write about it.
	You know, Dave and I, we, you know, invented podcasting together.
	But when it comes to the debt ceiling, he's like, but this is, we're America.
	It's our full faith and credit.
	I mean, of course we have to print more money.
	We have to borrow more money.
	And I've never understood that it's like it's embedded in people's brains.
	What are you talking about?
	That's just crazy talk.
	We've always done that.
	200 years, you heard the president say it.
	And believe it or not, economist of the country, Nobel Peace Prize, Nobel Economic Prize winning economist, Paul Krugman, on May 3rd, says again, minting a $1 trillion coin to prevent a debt ceiling crisis is possible, would not be inflationary.
	How, I mean, is this, am I crazy?
	No, he is.
	Yes!
	We've heard this for so many years.
	Oh, a trillion dollars?
	It has to be platinum.
	It has to be platinum.
	Before you go off on this, you were talking about Trump and the rape.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I have another Biden thing from Stephanie Ruhle, too.
	Well, I have Trump and the rape, which I would... Trump and the rape?
	Is that a show title, Trump and the rape?
	No.
	Rape would be not good in the title.
	No.
	All right.
	I just want to play these two clips.
	One is just Trump, he wants to change a venue for the rape trial.
	No, this isn't the rape trial.
	This is the other trial, but you know, it's just a harassment trial.
	This is the one for him and his election fraud.
	In other news, the Trump legal team is reportedly trying to move the former president's criminal case from New York City to a federal court.
	If successful, it could mean a more favorable outcome for Trump.
	Shifting to federal court could give Trump an advantage because it would expand the possible jury pool outside of Manhattan, where more voters favored President Biden and Democrats.
	A federal judge would have to approve the request.
	The 45th president entered a not guilty plea to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.
	It's in connection to payments that his campaign made during the 2016 election to silence allegations about an affair.
	Trump has denied having an affair and also denied any wrongdoing in the case.
	That's quite a stretch, the way they explain what that trial is about.
	It's quite a stretch.
	Yeah, it is kind of a stretch, but it brought me to this old supercut.
	Supercut.
	This is pretty much the same kind of thing that happened to John... I mean, what happened here was... John Edwards, right.
	The John Edwards case, where he actually not only had an affair with a woman that he bought off with campaign funds, But she had a kid, she had a child by him, and it was like a little more sleazy, I think, than what Trump went through.
	But the mainstream media, meanwhile, didn't have the same kind of, ah, we got Trump now, he's going to jail!
	The walls are closing in!
	Let's listen to how they treated the John Edwards, the same mainstream media people, with the exception of a few who got axed in the meantime, back in the day.
	Growing questions tonight over whether the government overreached in its indictment of former presidential candidate John Edwards.
	Edwards is accused of using campaign funds to hide an extramarital affair.
	There are growing questions over the indictment of former presidential candidate John Edwards for allegedly using campaign funds to hide an affair.
	Did the government overreach?
	This looks like one of those things you read about in third world countries, or in India or somewhere, or Pakistan, where they get somebody who's been out of office a couple years, get them while they're down, hit them with some incredible charge with campaign funding that nobody's ever heard of before, and put them away for a while.
	Should we remind everybody John Edwards was a Democrat?
	I think that's, you kind of missed that.
	Oh yes, John Edwards was a Democrat, hello.
	You're right, you're right.
	That's the main thing to note.
	That's the main difference.
	Incredible charge with campaign funding that nobody's ever heard of before and put them away for a while.
	It just looks like revenge against the party, against somebody who lost an election.
	Even if most of the facts prove true, there already is controversy over whether it all amounts to a federal crime.
	Critics blast the government's case against the former presidential candidate.
	Why they say what he did may not have been against the law today.
	So I guess the question is, is CAD or criminal?
	I mean, there are people who are saying that this indictment is very questionable.
	Washington Post editorial said, it is troubling that the Justice Department would choose to devote its scarce resources to pursuing this questionable case.
	Even some of those with no love for Edwards are scratching their heads over the charges.
	Even some who find Edwards' behavior despicable question the strength of this case.
	Leave him alone.
	I mean, why waste our effort on that?
	What's your political view?
	Do you think there's politics in this prosecute?
	Was it just a Republican U.S.
	attorney going after this guy, sticking around to do the dirty work for the R's?
	Yeah, well the difference is clear.
	It was a Democrat versus a Republican.
	It's just to be noted.
	I want to go back to the trillion dollar coin for a second because this is all part of what is supposed to take down Joe Biden and Krugman who says, and he tweeted this so you know he's serious, quote, the Fed would surely sterilize any impact on the monetary base by selling off some of its huge portfolio of U.S.
	debt.
	Suggesting the Fed would likely sell $1 trillion worth of government bonds.
	In fact, he says it's more likely that the Federal Reserve, the government, would issue premium bonds to avoid default than mint the $1 trillion coin.
	But he says the trillion dollar coin would not be inflationary.
	And he says that the Fed chairman probably wouldn't accept it.
	I mean, would you?
	If some dude came up and said, hey, I got a trillion dollar platinum coin.
	Do you want it?
	I don't think I'd accept it either.
	Somebody gave me a trillion dollars worth of platinum.
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	Which I think is at 1,200 bucks.
	I'm not sure what it is an ounce, but from 900 to 1,200.
	Meanwhile, we just have bank after bank going out of business.
	This is kind of fun, how that works.
	All right, back to taking the takedown of President Joe Biden with Stephanie Ruhle, who is also a finance insider.
	The boys at the trading floor loved her.
	You have officially announced you're running for re-election, and in your first video, you featured Vice President Harris 10 times.
	When Obama was in that position, he didn't mention you, sir.
	What are you trying to tell us?
	Whoa!
	What's with the sir business, Stephanie Ruhle?
	Wow, that was pretty rude.
	Sir?
	What is she trying to be?
	I thought that was a very rude way of asking that question.
	In fact, I have a feeling that these questions were inserted later.
	You know, how they do an over-the-shoulder... Oh, I don't believe... No, they can't... You think?
	That's chicken shit.
	Stephanie Ruhl.
	When Obama was in that position, he didn't mention you, sir.
	Sir.
	What are you trying to tell us?
	Well, uh... Did she just laugh at him?
	She laughed in his face.
	What are you trying to tell us?
	Well... Whoa!
	Whether that was edited or not, that's a lot... What the hell?
	She laughed at him.
	What are you trying to tell us?
	Somebody laughed.
	Well, uh, President Obama and I became very good friends.
	I...
	We just had a slightly different style of how we do things.
	As you recall, every major initiative President Obama had, I was the last guy in the room deciding that with him, giving him the advice what we should do.
	And he's committed to helping any way he can this time out.
	What?
	But look, I just think that Vice President Harris hasn't gotten the credit she deserves.
	She was an attorney general in the state of California.
	She has been a United States Senator.
	She is really very, very good.
	And with everything going on, she hasn't gotten the attention she deserves.
	Don't.
	Well, she's getting it now because she's in charge of the A.I.
	Danger!
	Danger, danger.
	A.I.
	is gonna take over the world.
	It's gonna steal your job.
	But luckily, Kamala Harris, Vice President to the rescue.
	The White House is now signaling its support for some rules and regulations surrounding The launch, if you will, of artificial intelligence as a new technology begins to disrupt a number of industries with some experts warning it can end up wreaking havoc on society if not properly constrained.
	The Biden administration hosted a meeting today with a number of big tech executives to discuss the risks posed by AI while also discussing potential safeguards.
	In a statement, the Vice President, Kamala Harris, who took part in the meeting, warned that AI has the, quote, potential to dramatically increase threats to safety and security, infringe on civil rights and privacy, and erode public trust and faith in democracy.
	Oh, civil rights!
	Not exactly uplifting.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let's hear those dangers again.
	Write them down.
	We want to make sure that this doesn't happen.
	This is like bull crap.
	I mean, how?
	How does it have to do with any of this?
	No, I know what's going on here.
	Hold on.
	In a statement, the Vice President, Kamala Harris, who took part in the meeting, warned that AI has the potential... Did she take part or did she lead the meeting?
	I mean, I think that's a slam right there from NBC.
	She led the meeting, Chuck.
	In a statement, the Vice President, Kamala Harris, who took part in the meeting, warned that AI has the potential to dramatically increase threats to safety and security, infringe on civil rights and privacy, and erode public trust and faith in democracy.
	Faith?
	Not exactly uplifting.
	Faith in democracy?
	Today's meeting comes days after the so-called godfather of AI says he left Google to more freely speak out about the dangers that technology can pose.
	Alright, so a couple things.
	This is the oldest trick in the book.
	This is... Now remember...
	Our general thesis is the ad market has gone incredibly soft.
	The big tech companies had staffed up during COVID.
	TikTok came in, started to threaten everybody's business, certainly Meta's business, and even Google's.
	We know fact that Google, from Google's own internal research, one out of two people search for things on TikTok before they search on Google.
	TikTok has entered the search ad marketplace.
	And what do you do when you notice who wasn't at the table?
	TikTok wasn't at the table.
	ByteDance wasn't at the table that I'm aware of.
	What you do is you go to the government, you say, look, we've got a new thing here.
	This is the new, new thing.
	It's the hot thing.
	Everybody wants it.
	AI is, what can we call AI?
	AI is the new blockchain.
	Yeah, that's it.
	AI is the new blockchain.
	Blockchain.
	Do we remember blockchain?
	Horowitz and I used to comment during the heyday of blockchain, how these Moribund companies would come up and all of a sudden introduce, we're going to have blockchain.
	They just say the word and the stock would go up five points.
	Riot was famous.
	Now it's the same thing with AI.
	The stock goes right up.
	Yep.
	So what do you want to do?
	If you want to make sure that, and this is why, you know, we had this letter signed, the open letter by Elon Musk, who, as you notice, has no AI play.
	He doesn't have a play.
	And so, oh, we did slow it down, but slow down by six, six months at least, so I can catch up with my AI play.
	So it's the new blockchain, and then they're getting ahead of the game this time.
	You know, this is, we need a new or expanded Section 230.
	Something that new entrance into the AI space.
	Cannot compete with, because they won't have the money.
	This is the old, that's why it's Kamala's job.
	We all know what the idea is here.
	They're all, they're in DC, not for this dumb meeting.
	They're at everyone, every senator and congressman's door, talking about, you know, what kind of legislation can we put in place so no other people can get into our coveted AI space.
	But I gotta go do this stupid meeting with the vice president for a minute, photo op.
	Of course they want regulation.
	They love it.
	They want the regulation so they can own the space.
	And that just means... Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	This is the general no agenda thesis.
	That's how you do it.
	Now you heard in that report, and we discussed this on the last show, that the godfather of AI That he had left Google so he could speak freely about it because, I don't know, is Google like some kind of gulag where you can't talk?
	Like when you work there, it's like, oh, you can't discuss anything?
	And we should mention, if all this is true, they would have had him sign an NDA upon his resignation for a pot of money.
	And he wouldn't be talking at all, so he's out there talking because he's allowed to talk, or they want him to talk, or something like that.
	Wanted to talk may be the right one, and the big get was for PBS!
	PBS NewsHour, completely independent.
	They have the get, and we know the guy's name now.
	He has three names, like any criminal.
	Jeff Bennett Jeffrey Hilton, Hinton.
	Jeff Bennett, no, that can't be it.
	Jeffrey Hinton?
	I don't even know the guy's name.
	Let's listen to him.
	This has been a week where concerns over the rapidly expanding use of artificial intelligence.
	I think Jeff Bennett is the PBS guy.
	Jeffrey Hinton is the AI guy.
	I've misread my own titles.
	Resonated loudly in Washington and around the world.
	Whoa!
	Resonated loudly!
	It was the resignation heard around the world.
	Vice President Kamala Harris.
	Never heard of the guy.
	Let's do that again.
	Resonated loudly in Washington and around the world.
	Vice President Kamala Harris met yesterday with top executives from companies leading in AI development.
	Microsoft, Google, OpenAI and Anthropic.
	Anthropic.
	The Vice President discussed some of the growing risks and told the companies they had a quote moral obligation to develop AI safely.
	That meeting came just days after one of the leading voices in the field of AI, Dr. Geoffrey Hinton, announced he was quitting Google over his worries about the future of AI and what it could eventually lead to, unchecked.
	We're going to hear about some of those concerns now with Dr. Geoffrey Hinton, who joins me from London.
	I see he's escaped to London.
	What the hell is he doing in London?
	He's at the coronation, of course!
	Time to party down!
	What are those risks, as you see it?
	There are quite a few different risks.
	Um, there's a risk of producing a lot of fake news so nobody knows what's true anymore.
	And we need AI for that?
	How do we need AI for that?
	Macedonia did the job just fine.
	Yeah, how about the troll farms?
	They were great.
	We don't need troll farms.
	We don't need AI.
	Oh, it's maybe cheaper, but okay.
	How's it even cheaper?
	Encouraging polarization by getting people to click on things that make them indignant.
	What do you mean?
	You mean clickbait?
	Yeah, you mean like... AI can't do clickbait.
	We do clickbait.
	The American creative types do clickbait.
	And we do it great.
	We do great clickbait.
	There's the risk of putting people out of work.
	It should be that when we make things more productive, when we greatly increase productivity, it helps everybody.
	But there's... Let me stop that for a second.
	It is my belief that no matter, and I do not think AI is any risk or any opportunity, honestly.
	I mean, there's some writing opportunities.
	Okay, it's a large language model, so it can do writing stuff.
	Very good.
	As with every new technology, stuff has to go away, and jobs go away, and then there's new jobs for new opportunities.
	Isn't that what it always is?
	It's not like- That's the way tech works.
	The PC revolution did not, you know, leave everybody jobless.
	It created millions of jobs.
	Even when the automobile- Oh, the buggy drivers!
	Oh, don't go!
	They have to- What do we get?
	We get cab drivers.
	And then Uber came along and then everybody was a cab driver.
	It only gets better.
	This is patently not true.
	But there's the worry that it might just help the rich.
	And then there's the risk that I want to talk about.
	Help the rich?
	Help the rich?
	Oh, brother.
	He's a communist.
	But there's the worry that it might just help the rich.
	And then there's the risk that I want to talk about.
	Wait, hold on.
	We interrupt these clips too much.
	Yeah.
	It's my worry.
	Yes.
	That this will help the rich.
	Yeah.
	Why is he worried about it helping the rich?
	I would presume.
	The rich need the help and God, let's don't let them get helped by AI.
	It's helping the rich somehow.
	No, you called it.
	He's a commie.
	This is insanity.
	He's a commie.
	You called it.
	I mean, if you left Google as the godfather of AI, do you not have any stock?
	Any options?
	Are you not rich?
	Well, I'd hope he was.
	Maybe that's why he left.
	Or maybe the whole thing is a scam.
	These guys never even worked there.
	It should be that when we make things more productive, when we greatly increase productivity, it helps everybody.
	But there's the worry that it might just help the rich.
	And then there's the risk that I want to talk about.
	Many other people are talking about those other risks, including risks of bias and discrimination and so on.
	I want to talk about a different risk, which is the risk of super intelligent AI taking over control from people.
	Okay.
	Last clip.
	Let's hear about this.
	Is there any turning back when you say that there will come a time when AI is more intelligent than us?
	Is there any coming back from that?
	I don't know.
	We're entering a time of great uncertainty where we're dealing with kinds of things we've never dealt with before.
	It's as if aliens have landed, but we didn't really take it in because they speak good English.
	How should we think differently then about artificial intelligence?
	We should realize that we're probably going to get things more intelligent than us quite soon, and they will be wonderful.
	They'll be able to do all sorts of things very easily that we find very difficult.
	So there's huge positive potential in these things, but of course there's also huge negative possibilities, and I think we should put more or less equal resources into developing AI to make it much more powerful, and into figuring out how to keep it under control, and how to minimize bad side effects of it.
	Congratulations on that great get, PBS NewsHour.
	Do you understand what he said?
	Well, that told me absolutely nothing.
	No, of course it's nothing, because the guy is a dope!
	And what was his big invention?
	How can you be the godfather of AI?
	What did you do?
	I mean, I know what I did for podcasting.
	Why, in fact, I'm called the godfather of podcasting.
	I saw RSS said, hey, put an attachment in there.
	And I said, no, and I can say it in one in one paragraph.
	Yeah, you can't because you're the guy that did it.
	Right.
	So what'd this guy do?
	And by the way, you know what?
	You know what?
	Do I have to ask you?
	You know what you're supposed to say?
	What?
	Why are you asking me do I know what?
	Try it again!
	Hey, guess what?
	What?
	Let's look him up in the Wikipedia and see exactly what he did.
	What was his name?
	Jack Kirby?
	What's your guy's name?
	Jeffrey.
	Jeffrey with a G-E-O-F-R-E-Y.
	Oh, the G-E-O.
	G-E-O.
	Jeffrey Hinton.
	Hinton.
	Hinton.
	Here we go.
	Let's look him up.
	Hinton.
	Okay.
	This is the way we do it on this show because you wear gas bags as it is.
	That's right.
	Okay, 76.
	He's a British Canadian.
	British Canadian.
	He worked on neural nets, which is not AI.
	Okay, that's beside the point.
	He works for Google Brain.
	Google Brain.
	What was Google Brain?
	That was their AI.
	That was what Musk said.
	Sergey Brin stole everybody to work on Google Brain.
	Google Brain didn't win any chess match.
	That was Deep Blue.
	So Hinton received the 2018 Turing Award, which is a big deal, with Yoshua Bengio and Yann LeCun.
	For their work on deep learning, they are sometimes referred to as the godfathers of AI.
	In 2018, AI's whole trend began in the 80s.
	He popularized the back-propagation algorithm for training multilayer neural nets, which again is questionable.
	That's PageRank, isn't it?
	What backpropagation is?
	Yeah, backpropagation is part of an algorithm that... Is a widely used algorithm for training feed-forward artificial neural nets or other parametized networks with differentiated nodes?
	Yeah.
	It's an official... Hold on, let me read the whole thing.
	Gotta open it.
	He's a mathematician.
	His dad was a mathematician.
	Yeah, he's a math guy.
	He's a math guy.
	Math dude.
	Alright, okay.
	Well, impressive.
	Um, what's on it?
	He has a homepage.
	What's his homepage?
	Oh my God.
	All he's missing is a blank.
	He's old enough to be the father of something.
	Yeah.
	His homepage looks like it should have blink tags.
	What are those?
	And I generated it with Emacs.
	In fact, let me take a look.
	I bet you he built this with Emacs.
	Is this his website on Toronto EDU?
	Yes, yes.
	Oh, that's probably, the EDU, Toronto probably put this together.
	It's his college website.
	It looks like something he would have done himself with Emac.
	It's terrible, yeah.
	I agree.
	With Lisp.
	All right, let's get off of that train.
	Ivorik.org slash NA.
	There you go.
	So, Lisp.
	I have one more candidate who's running for president, and after we play this clip, it will be guaranteed he will never ever be president.
	I fear for his life, in fact.
	Are you Kennedy?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But they won't get close enough that they have to do anything about it.
	Well, he opened up about bioweaponry, and this is from his book, but I've never heard it told this concisely.
	It's important, I think, the American people, maybe the people of the world, need to hear this, so you understand exactly where COVID came from.
	We went to war, we passed the Patriot Act, and immediately started giving $2 billion a year to bioweapons development.
	The Pentagon didn't want to do it because it was nervous about the legality, because it was a death penalty to violate the Geneva Convention.
	Oh, you would have been committing a, you know, a war crime even if somebody told you it was okay.
	It wasn't.
	And so they funneled it through DITRA and DARPA.
	They funneled all of that money.
	Did you ask something?
	No, I'm not, I'm listening.
	Oh, I thought you were hearing.
	I thought you said hang on.
	And so they funneled it through DITRA and DARPA.
	They funneled all of that money.
	To NIH, to NIAID, which became the primary spear tip of bioweapons development.
	So Tony Fauci became the bioweapons czar in 2001.
	His budget went up by 2.2 billion dollars.
	He was personally given a 68% raise from the military.
	That's why he was the highest paid individual in the federal government.
	Because he was getting this 68% bonus every year from the military.
	But it meant that he could not stop.
	And the thing the military wanted was gain-of-function studies, where they could take wild viruses and turn them into bioweapons.
	And bioweapons development always includes vaccine development.
	Because unlike chemical weapons, with bioweapons there's always blowback.
	It's called the boomerang effect.
	If you give your enemy bubonic plague, your guys are gonna get it first, too.
	They're gonna get it quickly.
	So, the only way you can deploy a bioweapons is if you have already developed a vaccine.
	So the race is to develop a vaccine simultaneously with the bioweapons, and then you can deploy the bioweapons, and your enemy will take a couple of years to develop the vaccine.
	And you can inoculate all of your team.
	So in 2014, three of Tony Fauci's bugs escaped from federal labs.
	And their escapes were public.
	And it caused a huge brouhaha.
	There were Senate hearings.
	And people were immensely upset.
	And 300 scientists wrote a petition to President Obama saying you have to shut down Tony Fauci.
	He's going to cause a global pandemic.
	And Obama declared a moratorium and told Fauci, ordered Fauci to shut down the 18 studies he was then doing.
	As I show in my book, he didn't do it.
	He instead took that science and he moved it offshore to the Wuhan lab and to the Ukraine.
	And when he did that, he was not the only one who did it.
	Tony Fauci spent about $29 million on gain-of-function science in Wuhan.
	But the CIA spent over $100 million.
	And the military spent about that much too, about $64 million.
	And the CIA funneled the money, most of it, through USAID.
	Um, but they also, the CIA, as we now know, was also running this organization called the EcoHealth Alliance, which Fauci was funneling his money through.
	It was like a laundromat where they funneled, uh, federal money so that it was, so that their fingerprints would not be, would not be visible on the... Yeah, no, he's not going to be president.
	Wow.
	Isn't that great?
	Oh yeah, that's unbelievable.
	I do have a, I think this is from 2008?
	I don't know when this is from.
	I have no idea.
	No, not, not, no.
	I'm saying, I think I have, I think what I have.
	Oh, okay, I'm sorry.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Who's calling?
	You know who?
	I listened to Mark Levin the other day, he's always going, HELLO!
	Nobody does that.
	You know, you're one of the few people who still has an AM radio.
	I do.
	I mean, in your car.
	I do!
	I have an FM radio in the car too, you know.
	Of course you do!
	You know what's interesting?
	I have this clip coming up, it's dynamite.
	But the AM radio quality on the newer cars Compared to, I have an old Lexus, and it's just, they deteriorated it on purpose.
	Yeah.
	And as I take my Lexus in to have it fixed, and I get a loaner, I get a brand new one, I drive it around, I turn on the AM radio, it sounds like shortwave from the 20s!
	Well, here's the problem.
	AM radio is no longer being put into cars because half the cars that people, you know, will be buying will be electric.
	And there's so much gear now in these cars that you can't get away from the... Interference.
	Interference, yeah.
	You just hear that.
	You cannot use... and no one wants to debug it.
	This is a good sound effect.
	It can only be done with these temporary teeth, interestingly.
	So here's Fauci, I think this is in 2008?
	Yes, I see.
	Where he's slightly working on his scheme that was just outlined by Kennedy.
	His scheme to get around this gain-of-function thing, this may have been later or earlier, but this was at some point where he had to He knew the gain-of-function was under pressure and he was slyly working out a scheme and here he is.
	Anyway, so let me just go on about NIH lifts funding pause on gain-of-function research.
	So let me explain this a little because whenever this comes out, there's always the pushing back and forth from the press.
	Like NIH now is going to do dangerous research.
	No.
	As a matter of fact, it's exactly the opposite.
	So a framework has been now established to guide funding decisions on proposed research that might be anticipated to create, transfer, or use enhanced potential pandemic pathogens.
	The program, everybody has to have a neat little name to it.
	This is called P3CO.
	So if you hear about P3CO, it's Potential Pandemic Preparedness Care and Oversight.
	Now, why is this different from everything else we've been doing?
	It's different because remember the trouble we used to get in when someone would do an experiment?
	They were submitted to a journal and just as it's getting ready to go out, everybody would start scrambling around.
	Should we be publishing?
	Should it not?
	So we decided to go upstream from that and talk about decisions that are made by government funded.
	Remember, we have no control That's the ghoul in Westminster.
	There was Tony Fauci with his cane and his hooded ghoulish outfit.
	activities to guide the funding decision before you actually do the experiment.
	I don't think this is going to be foolproof.
	Things are going to slip through.
	But I think this is a much better approach than we've had before.
	That's the ghoul in Westminster.
	There was Tony Fauci with his cane and his hooded ghoulish outfit.
	It's unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	And this has been going on forever, as Kennedy points out.
	Sorry.
	It's been going on forever, as Kennedy points out.
	And we can't seem to put a stop to it, in fact.
	And if it's punishable by death, hey, let's line some people up!
	Who's behind all this?
	Where's the punishable by death take place?
	It's like a, you know, kind of saber rattling about this sort of thing.
	We're just doing it openly.
	Yeah.
	Well, Fauci and Collins.
	Who's gonna punish anybody by death?
	Yeah.
	Collins is, you know, they're probably buying homes in Argentina.
	Hey man, you're telling me that Lexus gives you a loaner car?
	Yeah.
	When you bring that junker in, they say, oh, hi, Mr. Dvorak.
	Boy, nice to see this 20-year-old vehicle again.
	Here's a loaner vehicle.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	When you call in to get your appointment, you say, I need a loaner, and they give you one.
	Yeah, but they give you a new Lexus.
	Yeah.
	Wow, well that's good service.
	Lexus is pretty good.
	Lexus is the best.
	It's pretty good that way.
	I've got, you know, my third.
	Well, since we're talking about Big Pharma, either way, and obviously, you know, the Wuhan, whatever this, if it was real at all, whatever this COVID was, they didn't have the vaccine ready, that's for sure.
	That whole thing, what a huge scam.
	Let's not let that happen to us again.
	Who knows what they're developing?
	Here's the latest out of Big Pharma Land crushing entire industries.
	After 40 years of helping people to shed pounds, Jenny Craig is shedding its entire workforce and going out of business.
	It's closing all of its nearly 500 weight loss centers in the U.S.
	and Canada and canceling all subscriptions, coaching sessions, food orders and sales.
	Weight loss services like Jenny Craig have been struggling to keep up with competition from prescription drugs like Ozempic.
	Bam!
	There you go.
	It's a plug for Ozempic.
	Yeah, but I believe it.
	And remember, Oprah's Weight Watchers, also known as WW, because, you know, they're rebranded, they bought the telehealth company, the telemedicine company, that can prescribe this stuff right on the app, right over the phone.
	Ugh.
	Yeah?
	Disgusting.
	Yeah, well, wait until that new one, the Eli Lilly one, gets on the market and people start using it.
	You're going to see people just withering away right before your eyes.
	I mean, don't I look great?
	As their hair falls out.
	That's why I look great.
	As they have horrible dreams.
	A flabby face.
	A zempic face.
	This is not an outstanding product, people.
	Please do not use this.
	I mean, I can't give medical advice, but I don't think it's an outstanding product.
	Seems like something very bad.
	Oh, oh, oh.
	Don't even... Even singing it is, like, just... It's bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
	All right, now, one more thing.
	We only have one break today because your Excellence Cinco de Mayo on Cinco de Septo... No, that wasn't it at all.
	It was bad.
	Something's amiss.
	You sent the newsletter out 20 times.
	Okay, twice.
	What happened?
	The newsletter seemed... I think there's a mail chimp.
	They did something wrong.
	I got it.
	And I did a second send because the first send didn't trigger a posting on Twitter, which it's supposed to do.
	Oh, they, uh, the algo got, uh...
	I'll go with the API.
	They don't have API access because they don't want to pay for it.
	Something happened.
	Yeah.
	Oh, they got downranked.
	They got downranked.
	And so I looked at the number of opens.
	It was way off at about 730.
	Something's amiss.
	So I sent a newsletter out a second time.
	Then I got some feedback.
	Hey!
	Was that the feedback?
	Was that one drunk guy?
	One stoner?
	And it didn't get posted either.
	So, you know, either MailChimp's got to get its act together and they can afford it.
	I mean, it's not as though it's a company that's starving to death.
	Well, you don't know.
	I mean, all these companies... Substack, it's so desperate, they're crowdfunding their next investment round.
	I mean, this is bad.
	Stuff is bad.
	And I thought, for sure I thought Substack was wildly profitable.
	They're just not.
	How can you have people paying left and right?
	It must be, I'm telling you right now, it must be because they have to shell out at least $150,000 and this is 2008 prices.
	It was a hundred or 150 grand a month to get whitelisted by Google and Outlook and a couple other, you know, there's, there's trusted companies that, this is one of the biggest scams in Silicon Valley is emails to be trusted to get through.
	And I'll bet you they just can't, they just can't afford it anymore.
	And I do not think that MailChimp has that kind of money either.
	It's bad out there.
	Email is, I have to sadly say, email is broken for good.
	It's broken for good.
	We should just give it up.
	I'll be calling everybody personally.
	Send me your phone numbers.
	Hello?
	Bill?
	Seriously.
	It's broken.
	I spoke to the CEO of Start9.
	Are you familiar with Start9?
	No.
	Start9 is a company and they are building, it's like Umbral, only they're taking it very, very seriously, self-hosting at home.
	And they've got, they're selling hardware.
	You can download their, they built an operating system.
	So not a bunch of dockers connected to each other, but an actual operating system that you can even get it on Purism hardware, which is, you know, the open source hardware that is built, you know, supposedly with no spy things in there.
	Uh, which is also quite popular amongst the, uh, the OTG crowd.
	Um, and they have, they're replicating all these services, you know, next cloud for your, for your Google stuff.
	You know, you can host your own blog with ghost.
	They have a clear net.
	So it'll be, you know, actually on your available on an IP address, you know, with this, with SSL.
	So you can really.
	The idea is to supplant big tech and do it all at home.
	The one thing they just gave up on was email.
	We can never make it work because even if we, we can set it all up and you can still use, you know, a separate SMTP provider, but we still can't guarantee your email will arrive because big tech has just completely screwed that in Google in particular.
	I've screwed that up.
	I've just made sure.
	Nope.
	Forget about it.
	We control that.
	We own it.
	And they do.
	Since most people are so stupid, they all fell for the Gmail thing.
	Oh, it's free.
	Look, Gmail's great.
	So, email is broken forever.
	It's too bad it was kind of a cool protocol.
	But I think you should go back and publish it on RSS, John.
	The newsletter.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he said.
	I might as well do my review right now of the Light Phone.
	Oh yes, you finally got your Light Phone.
	I did!
	Hey, everybody, I'm OTG once again.
	OTG kind of guy.
	OTG going OTG.
	I'm an OTG kind of guy.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	OTG off the grid.
	Haven't been that way for a while.
	Decided to give it another try. - Okay.
	Now that pretty much everything I use in my life is available on a computer, and I find myself checking my phone too much, even though I have a Graphene OS, so, you know, supposedly not too much spyware, and I splurge... Put it in a drawer!
	Well, you know, but for when I'm driving, I don't want to take it with me.
	When I go out to dinner with my wife, I don't want to take it with me, for a number of reasons.
	One is I don't want to be looking at my phone.
	I only want someone to be able to reach me.
	Like, if you need to reach me, you can send me a text message or call me.
	And that's pretty much all I need.
	But the Light Phone... Why do you need to be reached?
	Well, I'm an important person.
	I mean, what if podcastindex.org goes down?
	What if you need to say, eh, the website hasn't updated with the latest episode?
	You know, one of those emails?
	You're not a comic strip blogger.
	Okay, but I do get those emails from you.
	Right?
	Yeah, but it doesn't mean you have to act instantly.
	I'm not a surgeon on call.
	Well, maybe I have other hobbies that you don't know about that I need to be on call.
	But okay, do you want me to do this segment or do you just want to be a dick?
	I mean, you tell me.
	I would like both.
	Okay, let me do this segment and be a dick with little increments.
	Let me get started at least.
	Clip five, go!
	Clip five?
	$299, thelightphone.com.
	Isn't that a little steep?
	I think it's kind of on par with if you bought an older model Android phone on Amazon, new in the box.
	It's okay.
	It is, in fact, a very light version of Android, I believe, that runs it.
	The thing, John, you actually, I may have to send this as a Christmas gift for you.
	You will love this phone.
	Because it is the size, it's smaller than a cigarette box in dimension, of course, much thinner, obviously.
	Remember the old, there was a Nokia phone, the smallest phone in the world, way back in the day.
	It would fit right in the palm of your hand.
	You remember that?
	I thought it was Motorola, but yes.
	They're small phones that have been manufactured in the past.
	Very small.
	So it's kind of like that.
	And it has an e-ink screen.
	So it doesn't have, you know, it's like a Kindle, basically.
	And the only thing that you can do on it, which is more than I expected, to be honest, is a phone.
	And it imported my contacts perfectly.
	It has a calendar imported and syncs with my current calendar system.
	It'll work with anything, including NextCloud.
	It has an alarm, which you can set alarms.
	I use it for that.
	It has notes.
	I like the notes because notes, you can write them or you can record them.
	I've always liked doing that, like a dictaphone.
	I have not tried it to self.
	Yes, exactly.
	I have not tried it yet, but it has, um, directions, something called directions in it.
	So it does have some kind of, um, navigation.
	No, no, uh, navigation.
	Um, which is amazing.
	Um, it has a podcast player.
	Which is surprisingly, and you can't update anything on the phone, you have to do it on the website, on their dashboard to add podcasts, but it works.
	It will do Bluetooth with your headset.
	It has a calculator, not unimportant.
	And finally, it has a hotspot.
	So you could bring your laptop if you really needed access and you didn't have it, you could turn it into a hotspot.
	It is a wonderful, I mean, a wonderful little thing.
	And it has a QWERTY keyboard if you need to reply back to a text.
	You can also, I don't know what service is providing this, but you can also do voice-to-text.
	It doesn't sound very OTG to me.
	But I have to say, John, I've only had it for a day.
	It arrived yesterday.
	I'm loving going out with the dog.
	It's very light.
	I almost feel it in my pocket.
	I can listen to my favorite podcast, which is DH Unplugged, of course.
	It also has a music player, but I don't listen to music on anything on my phone.
	I don't care too much about it.
	And that's it.
	And that's all that it does.
	It doesn't do images.
	It doesn't have a camera.
	If someone sends you text messages with an emoji, the emojis will show up.
	You cannot send any text back with emojis.
	And that's it.
	And I think this is perfect.
	I think this is what all kids should have.
	That's mainly why I reviewed it.
	This is what your kid should have.
	Your kid can do some stuff that's educational and good and nothing else.
	And when they come home, yeah, they can do stuff on the computer.
	I'm very impressed by this device.
	I don't know about the battery life yet.
	We'll see.
	I mean, that's, uh... Let me see, I've had it... I unplugged it today, and it's at 98%, but I haven't done anything with it.
	The Light Phone.
	I think you... I think you'll enjoy it.
	I'm gonna... So you like it so much you're gonna send it to me?
	No, I'm gonna... I'm gonna buy a new one for you.
	Eh, I'll tell you right now not to bother.
	Why?
	It's too much money.
	What do you mean it's too much money?
	What would the price point be that's perfect for you?
	Uh, $99 I think would be okay.
	$49 would be better.
	So you'd rather take your clunky, distracting Android phone with you when you leave the house?
	I don't take a phone with me when I leave the house.
	If I'm going to Chicago, I might take a phone.
	When you drive around, you don't take a phone in case something happens?
	No, I do not.
	I know how to get around.
	What if there's an emergency?
	What if you're not feeling well?
	Like what?
	Like help, I've fallen, I can't get up.
	Yeah, well, that hasn't happened.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You're special.
	I'm not special.
	I'm like, this is the way the world used to be.
	I know.
	Nobody went around in the 60s and 70s with a phone, worried to death.
	I mean, some people carried around a pager because they felt so important that they had to get beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
	Oh, my wife got home.
	Now I know my wife got home.
	Who cares?
	Yeah, I know, but your wife lives in a different state, so yeah, you don't care.
	Well, even so, I'm just saying, I don't need a phone with me 24-7.
	I'm not a surgeon on call.
	Do you not have a little black book for your babes?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Did you used to at one point?
	Did you have a little black book?
	I don't use a little, it would be a red book.
	And this is why he's the buzzkill, ladies and gentlemen.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your currency.
	In the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the great clickbait.
	Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end who never takes a phone anywhere, Mr. John C. DeVore!
	Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Corrina, one of our ship's seat boots on the ground.
	Feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room, who do have phones.
	Yeah, now we're talking.
	$28.84.
	And even two hours into the show, that's not too bad for a Troll Room count.
	Hello, Trolls!
	The Trolls hang out in the Troll Room for one reason, one reason only, to be counted!
	And then to leave when the best stuff comes.
	That's the donation segment.
	It's where we have the interviews, we get clips of the day, we also thank people, we talk about people.
	Probably talking about you when you leave, you Trolls.
	Let me see, how many left right away?
	Oh, interesting.
	Only ten left.
	They're afraid.
	Oh yeah, so you get bad karma.
	That's why I forgot to mention that part.
	The trolls are in the troll room.
	You can participate in their joyous antics by going to trollroom.io where you can listen to the stream live.
	You can log into the chat room.
	You have to register if you want to troll, but that's pretty simple.
	But then, you know, the real recommendation, if you don't have a light phone, if you have like a grown-up phone, is go to podcastapps.com, get, and man, there's more apps coming, get an app that does the live stream, Podverse, CurioCaster, Podcast Addict, Podcast Guru, then a big one coming on board pretty soon that'll do this live stuff, but you can import all your existing podcasts into it and then
	When we go live, or any podcast goes live, you get the bat signal to remind you, oh yeah, the boys are live!
	You tap on it, boom, you get the live stream and you get your troll room and everything all in one go.
	It's a perfect thing.
	Or if you're just on a computer at the office, you can check in on noagendasocial.com and follow me, Adam at noagendasocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com.
	You know, that's our social network without algos.
	People seem to like it.
	You can follow from anywhere on the Fettyverse if your Mastodon instance has not blocked us.
	I think you can pretty much always subscribe to us.
	We may not get stuff in your Fetty feed, but who cares?
	You just want to follow us.
	We're your guides in all of this.
	Yeah, we're Freeze Peach.
	Yes, Freeze Peach indeed.
	Well, since you mentioned it, I do have a clip I want to drop in.
	You're talking about podcasts, podcasts, apps, podcasts, this by another.
	What's wrong with these podcasters?
	Your buddy here, this is a house ad on a iHeartRadio produced podcast.
	And the next thing you know, there's a plug for iHeartRadio that is kind of a A house ad, you know, I don't know why at the beginning of somebody's podcast, I was listening to somebody's... Some of these podcasts don't get started for five or six minutes.
	Oh, but what do they start with?
	Ads?
	Yeah, the latest thing in these...
	I don't know, in these networks, is to run two or three or four ads before the podcast.
	And then the guy's introduction takes forever.
	You're six minutes in.
	Don't you just fast forward like everybody else?
	No, I want to hear these ads, especially this one from your old buddy.
	My old buddy who?
	Bob Pittman.
	Bob Pittman was never my, he was on his way out.
	In fact, I met Bob Pittman once.
	The weekend I got to New York and I got a call.
	Yeah, Bob Pittman, who was the president of MTV Networks.
	Just before he left and Tom Freston came in.
	Yeah, Bob wants to invite you to go to John Cougar Mellencamp.
	So we went in Pittman's limo to see John Cougar Mellencamp.
	And that was the only encounter I had with Bob Pittman.
	I was in a limo.
	Remember those?
	Remember the stretch limos?
	I'm Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia.
	Looking for a master's guide to the marketing world?
	From decades of experience starting with building MTV, I found it comes down to two things, math and magic.
	You'll hear unlikely visionaries from the frontiers of marketing share how they've used data, the math, and creativity, the magic, to launch their biggest, most impossible-sounding ideas.
	Listen to the new season of Math & Magic Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing on our very own iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
	Oh, hey, Bob Pittman!
	I should be on his show!
	I'm a Math & Magic guy!
	Didn't I launch a grand idea?
	Uh, yeah, sure.
	Go on the show.
	It sounds boring to me.
	There's nothing worse than a marketing guy.
	Hey, he created MTV.
	You heard it here?
	That's what he said.
	Well, while he has six minutes of ads and opening, we don't do that.
	We get right to the show with our witty banter.
	We have a little opening and we'll drop you right in, which is quite jarring for most people.
	And we don't have ads.
	We don't want to have Bob Pittman advertising.
	That would be horrible if you had to listen to Bob.
	I mean, with all respect, listen to Bob Pittman before we started or whatever, whatever house ad it would be.
	And why are they running house ads?
	Are they not making any money over there?
	Hello.
	Hello, iHeartRadio.
	Soon to be out of business.
	No, we run value for value.
	That means time, talent, treasure.
	Whatever you want to give back to us for the impeccable and voluminous value we provide, we gladly accept it.
	We do need the treasure part.
	A little short today, I'll be honest about it.
	But before we do that, let's go to our art credit.
	And thank the artist for episode 1552, aptly titled Old Trout.
	I don't think we have to explain to everybody why we titled it that.
	And would you believe it?
	Comic Strip Blogger came in with the winning art piece, and check this out, it wasn't even AI!
	Is that what he said?
	Yup.
	That's what he said.
	He said he was surprised, That this one, he was just messing around with some ideas.
	He took no A.I.- When we saw this art, and this is an angry salt shaker, very cute piece.
	We both looked at this and went, that's A.I.
	That's against our rules and regs.
	Well, I suppose it's your rule, not mine.
	True.
	And we said, no, we can't do that.
	And then you said, come on, let's do it.
	Come on, let's do it.
	Well, I said, come on, let's do it.
	I said, we violate our own rules all the time.
	And we also thought it would be fun for Commissar Blogger to be able to rag on.
	It's a cute piece.
	It's a very good piece.
	But we thought that it would be fun for him to say, I gotcha, AI!
	And no.
	The irony is it's not AI.
	That's funny.
	Let's see, now there were a lot of submissions for which we're always very appreciative.
	You can follow along at noagendaartgenerator.com or get one of those handy-dandy new podcast apps at podcastapps.com.
	There's a bunch of funny old trout gags, including the one of the old trout walking by Josh, I don't know, but Kinhold or whatever his name, I can't pronounce his last name.
	Kornold.
	He did the old Kornold with a walker.
	It was a little... It was okay.
	I mean, you thought it was very funny.
	I liked it a lot.
	You liked it.
	I liked the one where Camilla's face was literally a trout face.
	I thought that was gross.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know you did.
	A lot of trout jokes.
	And there were a lot of shaker jokes, too.
	A lot of shaker jokes.
	But joke artwork, I should say.
	We both looked at the No Agenda Gardener's Balm.
	That was a nice piece by Nico Sine, but it was a little small, Nico.
	A little small.
	The Curry Dvorak was too small.
	That's the main problem.
	Our name has to be pretty big.
	And then you particularly liked the Rider's Strike again, which was done in the theme of Star Wars.
	Yes, the Empire Strikes Back.
	It was all off for me.
	I mean, the logo was great.
	Well, you hate Star Wars, Star Trek, all that stuff.
	I don't hate... Oh, I gotta tell you something.
	So, this is not Star Wars, but my buddy Dave over at PodcastIndex.org, he's a big Trekkie fan.
	And so he goes to the Star Trek convention as it came to Birmingham, Alabama.
	And he had signed up for a selfie with William Shatner and some of the crew members from, I don't know, which, Deep Space Nine, I don't know which one.
	Because he's really excited.
	He was like, I'm going to get a selfie with Shatner.
	I think he had to pay like 120 bucks for it or something.
	So you know what he got?
	So basically there's a stage.
	You have to stand next to a Shatner.
	No, no, no.
	Shatner sitting in a, like on a box or a chair on stage.
	And then there's Dave on the other side of a clear plexiglass divider.
	Wow, I want to see that picture.
	It's really sad.
	120 bucks, and Shatner just sitting there like, ugh.
	And the plexiglass dividers so none of the Trekkies get any cooties on him.
	I've lost respect for Shatner now.
	That's just a money grab.
	You want to take a picture of the Podfather?
	Free.
	You can slobber all over me.
	I'm no douche.
	We go to your meetup.
	That's pretty bad.
	It's very bad.
	It's just very disappointing.
	So we looked at that.
	I want to see that picture.
	I'll send it to you.
	It's pretty messed up.
	What else did we have?
	The egg.
	I thought the egg was cool.
	You didn't like the egg.
	No, I did like the egg, but I didn't think it was gonna... it was... show-worthy.
	It's just cute.
	It was a cute egg.
	It's a cute egg.
	Yeah, with kind of my teeth.
	That's what my teeth look like now.
	It looks too much like Brian Stelter to me.
	Wow.
	You didn't mention that when we were looking at it.
	Well, now I'm seeing it again.
	Yeah, so I think that was it.
	We really appreciate the work that all of the artists do over at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	They're doing this live while they listen to us live and that's what's so really phenomenal how well they can do that.
	All of them, it's very appreciated.
	And you can meet all of the artists at knowagenthesocial.com.
	They hang out there, they discuss, they congratulate themselves and each other.
	Yeah, and then they just excoriate the two of us for not liking the right art.
	Yeah, the wrong, you did it all wrong, you horrible people.
	NoahJenderArtGenerator.com and of course we want to thank the people who bring us the treasure, our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1553.
	And we kick it off with Mark Capenhurst, I would say, St.
	Petersburg, Florida, with a whopping, very nice, it saved the day, I would say, $1,033.
	That's an instant night donation then says in the morning Adam and John I'd like to thank you both for the amygdala assist over the last three years Your deconstruction helped me stand firm against my previous company's mandates with clear and concise reasoning Congratulations, man.
	That's a tough one to do.
	It's not it was not easy for a lot of people not everybody could do that Please knight me Sir Mark Sea of the Beach Swamp.
	Can I get a mangoes and ribeye at the round table?
	I think we can do that for you, no problem.
	And then he says, can I get a... You're gonna need a Bitcoin and a Yak Karma for everybody.
	And see y'all on Noster!
	Also, for anyone who has realized our healthcare system has failed, and you're interested in a sovereign alternative that actually cares about you, please check out joincrowdhealth.com.
	Tina actually uses that.
	What is it?
	It's a collective so you pay I think it's like $250 a month and that goes into a general fund and then when you need to get some help or anything over $500 You contact them.
	The first thing they do is they negotiate with your doctor.
	As we know, doctors, hospitals, they all take 30 cents on the dollar because that gives them the same amount of money they get from the insurance companies without all the paperwork and hassle.
	And then that payment comes out of the pool.
	And if it's extraordinarily expensive, they may ask you for an additional 50 bucks to help them tell the story, to help somebody out.
	And with that, you get some kind of reputation points.
	And of course, when it's your turn, if you have a Something big happened, then people will help you.
	It's a very popular format.
	There's many different companies that are doing this now.
	Isn't this what health insurance used to be?
	Kind of, yeah.
	I mean, except for the...
	She's not been asked to pay anything.
	I think...
	Well, actually, the money stays in your account, I think.
	It stays in your name.
	And these guys actually put some of it into Bitcoin, which I think is what's interesting.
	So part of your money grows as you grow.
	At least that's the concept.
	You have Christian health ministries, they do this, and you can only get invited through your pastor or something like that.
	But yeah, people are walking away from, we had to, we were like $2,500 a month for the two of us, you know, because we're older and we're not old enough to get all the government goodies.
	Fun word.
	Yeah, you sound flummoxed and flabbergasted.
	This end of all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a bitcoin.
	You've got karma.
	Baronet, 1% of the GTFO in Dixie, Washington, 34567.
	He'd like to send you cash, manning money, shot, long version, and goat karma.
	ITM, this latest 1% contribution of my treasure in the amount of 34567 has no special numerological meaning.
	It's just for the hell of it.
	In addition to slowly working my way up to the ranks of the roundtable, 1% Waze have recently secured me citizenship in the nascent, nascent county known as Liberland.
	As a diehard freedom lover, it's something I deceased in Washington, okay.
	The home of Inslee.
	It's something I decided to take a flyer of, which is the reason he's governor, is because they know how to rig elections up there with all mail-in voting 24-7.
	And 1% risk is not bad anyway, goes on.
	I think it's like contributing... I think it's a lot like contributing in no agenda.
	The immediate costs need not be great, but over time it can add up to something significant.
	The potential upside for information entertainment, amygdala shrinkage, when contributions enable, can be invaluable.
	Thanks again for all you do and provide, faithfully suppressing your exit strategy 1% of the time.
	A baronet 1% of the GTFO, aka Paul Zimmerman.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	That's a show-off money shot!
	Woo, Jesus!
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	Look at that!
	That's a money shot!
	Kenan Conway is a money shot!
	You've got... ...harm luck.
	Love that number, 3-4-5-6-7.
	And our favorite, 3-3-3-dot-3-3, we received from Scott Lamont, or Laymond, or Lamont, Lamont, Lamond.
	Somerset, Massachusetts.
	He says, one-third down payment on the helmet.
	The night helmet.
	The next two-thirds to cover the suit and sword to follow eventually.
	Thank you, Scott.
	We appreciate that.
	Bobby Brindlehorse in Mount Laurel, New Jersey.
	333.33.
	ITM boys, thank you Mimi for explaining the Vinegar Book premise.
	I've been waiting.
	Remember when 10 or so years ago they would play commercials about pharma causing boys to have breasts?
	WTC7 won't go away.
	Uh, Bobby Brindlehorse.
	WTC7 won't go away.
	Jen Wimberley.
	Is that General Wimberley, do you think?
	G-E-N?
	It almost looks like it should be a... Hard to say.
	Jen.
	No, Jen.
	Jen with a G. 282.28.
	8-2-2-8-2.
	Backwards and forwards.
	Please accept this Rove Ducks plus small boobs donation.
	2-2-2-22-plus-60-dot-0-6.
	In honor of my smokin' hot boyfriend, Kyle Toig.
	Oh, Kyle.
	Who would never hit me in the mouth, but did give me a gentle pimp slap.
	Happy birthday from Jen, also with a G. And please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Andrew Halinas in Iron River, Wisconsin.
	In the morning, and thank you for your courage, I have been wronged.
	I donated a row of ducks for 1518 and John committed the following offenses.
	Uh-oh.
	One.
	I was not credited for my donation except in the show notes.
	Oh, well, I don't know how that happened.
	Adam here is monitoring every word I say.
	Yeah.
	He's caught me.
	One of the men mentioned in my note for hitting me in the mouth, a.k.a.
	Joe, a.k.a.
	Flower Town.
	Flavortown.
	Flavortown was referred to as Flavorton.
	You almost did it wrong again.
	Yeah, but if I didn't read it in the first place, how could I do it wrong twice?
	Good point.
	What is that all about?
	Hey, hey!
	How does that work?
	This is a scam.
	So wait a minute, I wasn't credited, but yet I mispronounced this guy's name?
	That doesn't make sense.
	Well, maybe because you mispronounced his name, he says he wasn't credited.
	This seems like a little bit of... The live rendition of I've Got Ants was subpar.
	Wow, what a complainer.
	We didn't do any live rendition.
	I don't think so either.
	Then Adam, to get switched topics.
	Uh-oh.
	Then Adam had the audacity to misgender me.
	Oh no!
	By referring to me as a she.
	What part of Andy with a Y makes you think I'm a woman?
	Maybe it was your tone?
	Anywho, I'm a fellow follower in Christ, so I will turn the other cheek and forgive you.
	Oh yeah.
	Thank you.
	This is a very forgiving note.
	Please accept this row of ducks for being the best podcast in the universe, and please give the second best podcast in the universe, our Big Dumb Mouth, or OBDM, a shout out.
	I have no affiliation with them, just feel they need more listeners.
	They deserve it.
	No jingles, no karma, unless John wants to give it another try.
	I didn't do it in the first place.
	I got ants.
	Bye, Andy Hellenius.
	Hellenius.
	Hellenius Andy with a Y. Andy with a Y. Row of Ducks, 222.22 from DudeNameBen.
	DudeNameBen here!
	Here again with a yearly row of ducks towards knighthood, which according to my bookkeeping is finally here.
	Though I did use double credits on show 1500 and hit the knighthood mark, then it got lost in the mess.
	I don't blame you guys.
	I figured a real credit was worth waiting for.
	Please knight me.
	Oh, this is not, this is not in the... Oh, interesting.
	This is interesting.
	How'd this happen?
	That's a rare mistake from our new back office.
	Please knight me server of the Ohioan Crest.
	I gotta write all this down.
	Can you read this note for a second?
	I gotta, now I have to write all this down.
	Sure.
	Here again, I am nearly roe of ducks and towards knighthood was according to my book give me the finally blah blah blah.
	I don't blame you guys.
	I figured a real credit was worth waiting for.
	Please knight me a server.
	Of the Ohio... Ohian Crest, and I'd love some goulash and sliv... Slivovitz, which I think is that fish, isn't it?
	Sounds disgusting.
	Slivovich?
	Goulash and sliv... I don't know what it is, but it doesn't sound good.
	No.
	At the round table.
	I'm wrapping up my penultimate semester in college, and the show has been working overtime to keep me sane and informed!
	Nice.
	Despite the forces of wokeism at hand.
	I even hit a couple of people in the mouth here.
	And that's saying something on campus.
	Keep up the fantastic work, lads.
	I look forward to the roundtable and all its family.
	Onwards to Barony!
	Nice.
	No jingles, but looking for some graduation karma.
	We've got that for you.
	Thank you.
	You've got karma.
	And we've got the roundtable lined up for you.
	I got that stinky fish you wanted.
	I've got the note from Anonymous that came in.
	Oh, all right.
	Rock it.
	So Anonymous comes in from parts unknown, $222.
	And he writes, I'll find my glasses, Adam and John, I have been listening since hearing Adam on the Megyn Kelly Show.
	Oh, there it is.
	The Megyn Kelly Donor.
	Here we go.
	Back in 2021.
	That's right.
	This is truly the best podcast.
	Not Megan's, but ours.
	And I apologize for taking so long to donate.
	Keep up the good work, Anonymous.
	Well, I'm about to reappear.
	Although, put it in your calendar.
	May 31st, someone's getting fired.
	Whenever I'm booked on the Megyn Kelly Show, it was... Who got fired last time?
	Well, Sharon Osbourne.
	She got fired when I was booked and they bumped me for a full hour.
	Still had me on.
	And then it was Tucker.
	By the way, Kellyanne... What's her name?
	Not Kellyanne Conway.
	Conway.
	No, no, no.
	Who's the... You like her.
	The... No, not Kellyanne Conway.
	Yeah, I know the other one.
	Kaylee.
	Kaylee McEnany.
	Kaylee McEnany.
	She'll be in Tucker's time slot this week.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you knew that?
	Yeah, I already knew that.
	It was a big deal.
	I think it's not going to work.
	No, of course not.
	They can't put anybody in that spot.
	She's too nice to be, you know, he's, you know, even though he's got a big smile and he's always, oh, he's got that look and look a lot and he's, he is a mean guy.
	I mean, there's a meanness to him that, that needs to be on that show.
	You can't be a lightweight.
	I mean, when O'Reilly had the show, he's a mean prick.
	So this guy, you know, he's kind of a mean guy too.
	He's funny mean, but she doesn't have a bone of meanness in her.
	She really doesn't.
	She really doesn't.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, but isn't it just for a week?
	I don't think it's a, I don't think it's a... But he made it sound like she's going to take the spot.
	I, did I make it sound like that?
	I didn't mean... No, they, the trades.
	Oh, okay.
	The trades.
	There you go.
	$200 from James Lawler, who's in Oklahoma City.
	Oklahoma Sir Jimmy James here!
	And a whole bunch of hashtags.
	Shows have been amazing as of late!
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Oh, and our next Ooey Hooey meetup is this Saturday, and I hear Adam may make it!
	J.K., God bless.
	Thank you for your courage.
	J.K., indeed.
	No, I'm going to the... I'm going to finally go to the Austin meet-up again in Doc's backyard on Saturday.
	Rare appearance!
	Rare appearance, everybody!
	Join us there, Doc's backyard.
	If you're going to give any donations to the show, put them in an envelope with a note.
	Yes, with a note.
	With a note.
	With a note, please.
	And the final Associate Executive Producer at $200 is Roderick Prince from Scottsdale, Arizona.
	No notes, so he gets a coveted Double Up Donation Karma.
	I'll prepare the round table, John will take us through the 50s.
	And on we go with Paul Lawrence in Dayton, Texas, 16016.
	That's some sort of boob man thing.
	I'm not sure what it means.
	Anonymous, 9608.
	And then right away...
	I'm sorry, I jumped ahead.
	Bruce Schwalm of the Schwalm family in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, $133.88.
	And then Diane Schwanbeck in Johnsburg, Illinois, $150.
	And she's got a birthday call out to her, to David.
	Brian Talecki in Lincoln, Nebraska, $111.11.
	Victor Vandenberg in Here's John Dom, which is here's Jan's Dam.
	Here Young's Dom.
	Here Young's Dom in Holland.
	Yes.
	$100.
	Anthony Caruso in Orlando, Florida is $100.
	He needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Kerry Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee, 100.
	Sebastian Koijman.
	Koijman.
	Koijman!
	Sebastian Koijman in Amsterdam, 9608.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina, 8008.
	He's continuing the trend.
	Along with Al Gugansulin in Missouri City, Texas.
	8-0-0-8.
	Alexis Robles in Chula Vista, California.
	7-7-7-7-7 and she needs a de-douching.
	Robles in Chula Vista, California.
	777-777.
	And she needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And her brother, Julio or Julio, Julio, needs a call out as a douchebag.
	Douchbag.
	Close call.
	Daniel Rodriguez in Doral, Florida, 7175.
	Michael Delosiere in Maryville, Tennessee, 55-55 with a birthday call out. - Uh, William Alston, 5523.
	Andrew Cahill in Batavia, Ohio, 5523.
	Oh, these are all the fabulous 5523.
	This is the fabulous Sankofa Milo donation.
	Andrew needs a de-douche.
	You've been de-douched.
	Kat Morton in Charlotte, North Carolina, $55.23.
	Rita Harrington, $55.23.
	Hold on a second.
	You okay?
	55-23.
	Colin Pettit, 55-23.
	These came out well.
	I got six of them.
	That's not too bad.
	Andy Meyer and Merritt Washington is a killer.
	55-23.
	Dwayne Schlitt.
	PartsUnknown, 55-23.
	Okay, that's the end of them.
	Matthew Davenport and Hyde Cheshire, UK, 55.
	George Souza in Hilmar, California.
	Plea at 5333, please call out David and Jim as douchebags.
	Michael Gates, $52.80.
	Josiah, or Josiah, Thomason.
	Ann Kenny, Iowa, $51.00.
	And the following people, finally, are the $50.00 donors.
	Short list.
	Alex Zavala in Cal, Texas.
	Villarreal, Villarreal.
	Michael LeBar in Williamston, Michigan.
	Philip Kuzminowski in Austin, Texas.
	Ryan Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island.
	Jonathan Ferris in Liberal, Kansas.
	Matthew Smith in Colchester, UK.
	Robertson Holm!
	Robertson Holm!
	In Flint, Michigan.
	Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee.
	Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio.
	And last on the list, in Tehachapi, California, comes Justin Cruz.
	I want to thank these folks for making Show 55, 53, 51, 55, 53 a winner.
	And thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers, who we read at the top of this segment, and to all you who came in under $50, either for anonymity, we will not read anything under that, or you're on one of the many, many subscriptions, which are recurring donations, really sustaining donations, how we like to look at them.
	And we really appreciate you signing up for that.
	Please go to our donation page to learn more about them.
	Before I forget, I wanted to thank Secret Agent Paul.
	We were talking about the Clip of the Day jingle.
	And that was indeed secret agent Paul who created the clip of the day jingle and the borderline clip of the day jingle And he said it was in fact him and not Madonna seeing the borderline in the borderline clip of the day And maybe I should mention because just people request jingles, but I want to just tell you some of the jingles the guys done and
	F Cancer, Pet Peeve of the Day, Open Up, Mr. Dvorak, Words Do Matter, Putin on the Ritz, The Magical Shapeshifting Jews, and one of my favorites, this one.
	I mean, that guy's got chops.
	I mean, that's some good stuff.
	Yeah, we need more stuff from him.
	And I don't, and I thought that he had done this next one, which I will pull out of the closet because we talked about her, but he did not.
	I don't know who did this one.
	Such a good one.
	Yeah, the Kaylie jingle.
	What?
	Isn't that Kayleigh?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's the Kayleigh jingle.
	Yeah, it's the Kayleigh jingle.
	Goes on for quite a while.
	Yeah, well, she's got a show now, so.
	Well, they can use this as the opening, as the show tune.
	Yeah.
	Just a thought.
	Thank you all very much for supporting episode number 1,553 of No Agenda!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	What?
	What?
	Shut up, Slade.
	Shut up, Slade.
	It's your birthday birthday.
	Oh, don't watch it.
	Yeah, we do have a list.
	Sir Dancing Mike turned 55 on Monday.
	We congratulate him in advance.
	General Wimberly wishes her smokin' hot boyfriend Kyle Tohig a happy birthday.
	And Diane Schwanenbeck wishes David Schwanenbeck Jr.
	a happy birthday.
	And we say happy birthday to everybody here from the back office and the two producers and co-hosts of the best podcast in the universe.
	And as we just found out, we have two... Oh, May 10th.
	I made a mistake.
	Doesn't matter.
	We have not one, but we have two knights to bring into the round table today.
	Good, I got the two-knight sword.
	Nice.
	Perfect.
	Up on the podium, please!
	Can we have... Wow, you're really loud.
	Mark Capenhurst and DudeNameBen, both of you support the No Agenda Podcast, the amount of $1,000 or more.
	In fact, Mark, you came in with an Insight donation, therefore I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as Sir Mark C. of the Beach Swamp and Sir Ver of the Ohioan Crest.
	For you, we've got hookers and blow, rentboys and chardonnay, but also, by request, mangoes and ribeye and goulash and Slivovitz!
	Yummy!
	Along with that, Rubenesk women in rosé, Geishensack and vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, pressed milk and pablum.
	And of course, we've got the mutton and mead there for you.
	Gentlemen, go over to knowagenderings.com.
	Anyone can take a look at the handsome rings on display there for knights and for dames.
	But only you can order them and send us your ring size.
	There's a guide on how to do that, along with your address.
	We'll get them out to you as soon as possible, along with the wax to seal your important correspondence.
	And a Certificate of Authenticity, and thank you again for becoming Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	No Agenda Meetups!
	It's like a party!
	Indeed, like a party.
	Here's what's going on.
	We have the Bill Snohomish back better.
	Meetup, which kicks off in a couple hours, 3 o'clock, in Snohomish, Washington.
	Sound to Summit Brewing is where you want to be.
	And on Thursday, our next show day, look, here's the real deal meetup, no joke!
	6.30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado.
	And coming up in the next week, we've got St.
	Louis, Missouri, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, and then of course Austin, Sunset Valley, Texas on Saturday, Arnold, Annapolis area.
	Boston, Massachusetts, Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, Bronx, New York, Houston, Texas, the list is endless all over the world.
	You've got to go to one of these.
	Which is the one you're going to?
	The one in Austin, the Austin Sunset Valley.
	Next Saturday?
	Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, a thousand funny cars, meet the Podfather!
	Yeah, why?
	I thought it was tomorrow or something.
	No.
	Okay, so it's the day before Mother's Day then?
	Yes, it is in fact the Mother's Day meetup.
	That's correct.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Wait, hey!
	Do you think people will do a Mother's Day donation this year for the show?
	Um, this is a good question.
	I mean, during COVID, people love their moms.
	Yeah, now they hate their mom again.
	Back to hating mom.
	It's very odd.
	What the hell's going on?
	Think about how we now have about a 50-50 split between men and women listening to this podcast.
	And I would have to say a lot of them are moms.
	This is a great way.
	Moms love it.
	Moms love being paid attention to by the dynamic duo known as Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	So get your donation in for mom.
	Just trying to just trying to get everybody all excited about it.
	NoagendaMeetups.com is where you can find all the meetups.
	Find one near you if you can.
	Why don't you start one yourself?
	It's easy.
	NoagendaMeetups.com.
	Guaranteed a party.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want to be.
	Drink it all the time.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Um, I have three ISOs.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you have three ISOs too, I see.
	It's a balanced diet.
	Very balanced.
	Shall I play mine first, then?
	Yeah, please.
	Yeah.
	That's one.
	I find it interesting, man.
	Kind of like the whoopee.
	I think they're pretty darn good.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Uh, okay, well let's go with, uh, I've got three.
	Let's start with rats.
	Okay.
	I hate rats.
	Okay.
	I will tell you to go to do better.
	Do better.
	I'll be saving the best for last, no doubt.
	Here we go.
	And we need to do better.
	Yeah.
	If the show was lousy, we could play that one.
	Yeah, but it wasn't lousy.
	And then, of course, there's this one, which is famous the world over now.
	And remember, please mind the gap.
	Yeah, I think we're good to go.
	I just saw the title, I'm like, if the quality is good, it's a winner.
	Definite winner.
	And by the way, it wasn't easy to find the good quality version.
	Right.
	Because people were just recording it in the subway stations.
	That was Prince Charles, for anyone who didn't get a clue about that.
	Yes, yes.
	Very good one.
	We didn't talk about it on the last show.
	I did want to mention it.
	That now all of a sudden, apparently, May 11th, they end the vaccine requirement for entry to the United States.
	I've heard this.
	Are we taking bets on whether they extend it?
	No, they won't, because while everyone's all jacked and jitty, myself included, because now I can fly my daughter and her fiancé over, since neither of them are vaccinated.
	Yeah, but she's an American citizen, isn't she?
	Correct, correct.
	But you know, she wants to bring her man.
	Unless you could have ditched him.
	We're not going to take relationship advice from you, okay?
	But unfortunately what this really is all about is Title 42 being dropped, and that means we will have an influx of 10, at minimum 10,000 migrants coming across the border, flooding our border towns, mainly of Texas.
	It's going to be an absolute mess.
	It's going to be... You know, that's just a supposition.
	No, it's going to happen.
	They're already lining up.
	They're ready.
	May 11th, and then boom, they're in.
	Because Title 42 was used with COVID as a kind of a, what do you call it?
	That's the word I'm looking for.
	Deterrence is the word you're looking for.
	Yeah, maybe, deterrence.
	To turn people away.
	Well, you don't have your vaccinations, get out of here.
	But now that's going away, so the Biden administration, I'm sure they wanted to, you know, still leave the air restriction in place for international travelers, but they couldn't quite sell that.
	And, you know, that Dubrovnik guy can come in and play the U.S.
	Open, whatever his name is, Bojovic.
	Yeah, but it's sad.
	It's problematic.
	But I do have a clip that kind of explains, and this is another C-SPAN clip.
	This is an entrepreneur, a business owner.
	Now these are H-2A immigrants.
	H-2A is temporary.
	You can get a temporary seasonal visa, which I think many are taking advantage of to come in.
	The reason why he's hiring these Now John, really quickly, why are you having to use these workers?
	Why can't you use American-born workers to do the same work?
	I would give nothing more than to let that happen.
	We have to advertise these jobs.
	Before we can submit our petition, we have to advertise these jobs here.
	And no one calls.
	High school kids will not do these jobs.
	How much are you paying for those jobs, John?
	What's the going rate right now?
	$15 to $17 an hour, but I would much rather pay a guy down the street to come to work for me.
	Every day for $20 an hour instead of paying the H-2A people to come from Mexico for $20 an hour.
	But I do, those people that do come from Mexico are extremely hard workers and most of the time they're extremely good people.
	Now this is a mystery to me, and I was talking to Cole from KNC Cattle, because what we're trying to do here is, instead of paying for shipping on beef that we order from KNC Cattle to come from Luling, which is on the east side of Austin, We do one order with like, you know, eight, nine, ten families.
	They come out with the van.
	They deliver it to our house.
	You know, we collect all the checks and everything.
	And you know, it's kind of like a community thing.
	Everyone comes by to get their beef and everyone orders a lot more.
	Everybody wins, basically.
	And so they were really hustling around and they were going to be a little bit late on delivery day.
	And Cole calls me and he says, I'm sorry, man, we're just going nuts.
	Two weeks ago, I hired 10 people.
	Today, only two of them showed up.
	They don't even call.
	And they just don't feel like working anymore.
	They're done with the job and they just don't even come back in.
	What are these people living off of?
	Is there government money I'm not aware of?
	There must be.
	There probably is.
	That's nuts.
	You have to look into it.
	Find out.
	Maybe there is.
	Maybe there's government money.
	He says, yeah, there must be getting some government money.
	I do not understand it.
	It's maddening.
	I don't have no transition clips or anything to bring it after that one.
	Well, actually, I can transition, well, from the border stuff.
	Just something I want to mention because there's almost no discussion of it, but the Supreme Court is, you know, certainly Republicans on the Supreme Court are continuously under attack for all kinds, you know, Clarence Thomas would be the number one.
	But there's a decision that the Supreme Court has decided to take on and it's regarding the Chevron deference and I wanted to bring that up so that people can keep their eye on it if you find a clip or find an article about it.
	Are you familiar with the Chevron deference?
	No.
	No.
	The Chevron deference is a ruling that for 40 years Has basically has said, you know, any agency in the United States can interpret law as written by Congress, kind of the way they want to do it.
	And this has to do with Chevron from a long time ago.
	And they call it the Chevron Doctrine or the Chevron Deference.
	And the reason I put it in the show notes, if you want to read up on that case from 40 years ago.
	Now, of course, the whole reason we have this border problem
	Is because the Border Patrol, CPB and Department of Homeland Security, they are interpreting the law the way that's handy for them, that works out for them politically or whatever reason they have for letting many people into the country illegally and letting them catch and release, all of that is because they can interpret law the way they want.
	If the Supreme Court takes on this case, well, they're going to take it on, but if they overrule the Chevron doctrine, that would mean that whenever you can bring a lawsuit against any agency to say, hey, you are not adhering to the law, and then the federal court, and it can go all the way up to the Supreme Court, will then evaluate if there's any
	Ambiguity in the law, it will either have to be redefined by Congress or the agency will have to actually adhere to the law.
	And I think this harassment of the Supreme Court may have something to do with this.
	It's really not discussed.
	No one wants to talk about this because that could really change things.
	Just think about how all these agencies overstep their boundaries everywhere.
	Well that's kind of interesting.
	I wish we had some discussion about it.
	There's nothing.
	There's no clips.
	There's some articles.
	The Hill has an article on it.
	They're useless.
	Right?
	And that's about it.
	Here, nearly four decades of judicial experience with Chevron have demonstrated that courts are incapable of applying its two-step Chevron framework in a consistent manner.
	So, you know, and this case is actually, is being brought by, the Supreme Court is taking on, is Herring Fishing Company.
	A Herring Fishing Company, Loper Bright Enterprises, I think they're in, where, I don't know where they are.
	They, there's a ruling from the National Marine Fisheries Service regulation that herring fishing boats have to allow a federal observer aboard every ship to oversee operations and compensate them for their time.
	And the company is saying this regulation significantly decreases their profit.
	And so that's the case that the Supreme Court is taking on.
	So yeah, I think this is a big deal.
	We'll find out soon enough.
	Yeah.
	I'll try to look into it, see what's going on.
	I have some miscellaneous clips.
	I think one we should, we talked about, what was it?
	Emotional learning and how it improves everything, you know?
	You know, I'm talking about this on the show all the time.
	SEL.
	Social Emotional Learning.
	Yes.
	Yeah, it's so important because it makes people, you know, here, play Nations Report Card.
	This is the results.
	Nations Report Card.
	A so-called nation's report card is out for civics and U.S.
	history, and it's not great.
	History scores for 8th graders are the lowest since this particular testing started in 1994.
	The new data also shows the first ever drop in civics.
	This is from the National Assessment of Educational Progress, which is run by the U.S.
	Department of Education.
	Surprise, surprise!
	Just to mention that you were still falling apart thanks to social and emotional illness, not doing anything.
	No.
	No.
	Then I got this one, which is kind of school-related, which is the teacher that's suing the school in Texas, I think.
	No, no, I'm sorry, Riverside County, California.
	Texas teacher sues school over trans and not telling parents.
	She thought you should be able to tell the parents if the kid wants to be called Nancy.
	A former California teacher is suing her district over claims she was fired for refusing to hide kids' gender transitions from their parent.
	Jessica Tapia says she was discriminated against for her christened beliefs and warns that what happened to her can happen to anybody.
	Jessica Tapia joins us along with Vice President and Legal Counsel for Advocates for Faith and Freedom, Mariah Gundere.
	Thanks so much for joining the program.
	Why did you decide to inform the parents?
	Yeah, great question.
	Wow and the apprehension of why did you I mean, why would you why would you tell the parents?
	Oh my god We're not gonna go through all of what I've received.
	I did put a number of parent notes In the show notes under trans Maoism, which we are still under attack by in the United States It's one of the only one of the only countries left.
	I did want to share this one And all these are anonymous.
	Our first... Our homeschooled daughter was homeschooled during COVID, which you mentioned, John, was convinced she hated her body and was a boy at 12 in 2020.
	Surprise, surprise!
	Our first signal was our daughter, 12 at the time, saying she wanted to be a boy and use he-him pronouns on a Minecraft homeschool server she had been on for several years and the Midwest faith-based principal giving me a call.
	Thank you, Principal.
	My wife and I spoke to my daughter and she denied it was anything special.
	We dismissed it as role-playing, which happened often on this server.
	But several weeks later, I was looking through the logs on our personal Minecraft server, good on you, parents, for knowing what you're doing, and found a King Eric user logged in.
	I was asking my son if he invited them or do I need to implement a whitelist.
	My daughter ran up and said, no, no, that's me.
	My wife looked through her electronics and found out she was talking with a group of San Diego kids on scratch.mit.edu, MIT.edu, a visual programming site for kids that spun off from the Minecraft home server, the homeschool server, and they were encouraged her not to tell us and parents don't understand.
	So, we cut off her electronics for summer, told her to never talk to the group again.
	I told her I love her either way, but it was too soon for her to know who she would fall in love with as she was just starting puberty.
	Today, she falls into tears when it rarely comes up and says she wanted to believe it since she was getting so much attention and support from that group.
	She recently learned how to sew and is making anime-style dresses for herself and getting phone numbers from boys at homeschool dances, so I'm hopeful she will find her true self.
	No Agenda Show is nailing it per usual.
	Thanks for your courage.
	And so with all this so-called anti-trans legislation, Rachel Maddow is a shining example of exactly what you should not be doing when there's division over, and I want to make this clear, we should use the word children and not kids.
	Someone made a point about this, that kids is, you know, it kind of diminishes what they are.
	It's slang, you know, kid, young goat, you know, young person.
	I mean, just children.
	Call them children.
	And I also, have you heard people call their children kiddos?
	Yeah, JC and Jesse use this term.
	I do not like this.
	All the time.
	And I always call them out on it.
	I say, kiddo.
	I don't like it.
	Wait, what's kiddo?
	I don't like it.
	It's like, it's your child.
	Very common.
	You hear it, you see it a lot in videos too.
	Kiddos.
	Older millennials use it a lot.
	Kiddos.
	I got my kiddo here.
	I can't understand.
	Why does that hit me deep in my soul that I hate it when they do that?
	What is that?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea why it's bugging you.
	It just bugs me because I don't like the sound of it.
	No, there you go.
	I don't like the sound of it.
	Perfect.
	Just don't like it.
	Sounds like a breakfast cereal.
	Kiddos.
	Hey!
	Have your kiddos.
	Here's Rachel Maddow talking about people who want to put legislation into place, like Florida, that will inform children if they learn at school, or at least they should have the option, but I mean, come on, you should be able to be informing parents.
	If you're going to be offering some kind of sex change route with a therapist, the parents need to know.
	What are you then?
	You're a Nazi!
	If you are not excited, By the little Nazis blooming like stinkweed everywhere these days.
	It might give you some pause, right, if you realize that the reason that these Nazis keep turning out, the reason these Nazis are out there in the streets and on the street corners and in these public parks, the reason they keep doing this stuff is that they're cheering on what you've been doing in your day job.
	That might give you pause, right, if you started to notice what all these Nazis were doing and realize that what they were doing was pulling for your side.
	So there's a National Socialist Party in the United States, Nazi Party.
	You know, Nazis were a party.
	It was a political party.
	What she might be referring to are fascists.
	No, she's talking about Moms for Liberty.
	Oh, they're literally Nazis?
	No, Moms for Liberty are moms who don't want certain books in school.
	Probably, for good reason, is my guess.
	Yeah, well, because you're now book-burning, even though there's no books being burned, therefore you are a Nazi.
	You see?
	That's how these people think.
	This, by the way, shows me that Rachel Maddow has a mental issue.
	This is mental.
	That might give you pause, right?
	If you started to notice what all these Nazis were doing and realized that what they were doing was pulling for your side.
	In Ohio, for example, it might give you pause if you were an Ohio Republican and you've been working on legislation to attack queer people and trans people, while at the same time repeat- What legislation attacks Queer people.
	And what are queer people?
	You've been working on legislation to attack queer people and trans people.
	While at the same time, repeatedly, these guys are the crowds who are turning out to bolster that message.
	To make sure that the harassment and intimidation of queer and trans people has not just the imprimatur of state law, but also a Nazi flair.
	Nazi flair!
	This is mentally ill.
	Seriously.
	Mentally ill.
	Well, on the topic of mentally ill, that's a segway for me to play a couple TikTok clips.
	Yeah!
	Now you're talking, everybody!
	TikTok, it is.
	Great way to end a day.
	Let's go with this one.
	This is the bitch clip.
	Hi, I just want to say that I don't use they-them pronouns.
	You use they-them pronouns for me.
	I also am not a they, and I'm not a them, and I'm not a they-them.
	My pronouns are they-them.
	If you need a noun to use for me, just call me a bitch.
	Okay, that's not too bad.
	I like that one.
	I'm good with that.
	Yeah, no problem.
	Deal.
	No, the other one, which is not about this topic anymore, the trans topic, it is about the other topic which we didn't touch on today, which is white supremacy.
	Oh, that's so out!
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, white supremacy is, oh, that's yesterday's news.
	It's like, like racist.
	You know, there's no more Black Lives Matter.
	It's all anti-trans, Nazi.
	Well, we'll get back to the trans, but I want this, might as well play this, is that, did you know three meals a day is a reflection of white supremacy?
	Oh, no doubt, as long as it's Wonder Bread.
	Of course.
	Back to dinner.
	Yes.
	So what we have here is somebody first comes on and says something and then this other woman, it transitions to another woman who is so happy that this was being said.
	I've been waiting for this day.
	Continuously.
	If you don't know me, please go check out my page.
	I talk a lot about diet culture and its roots in white supremacy, racism, and just whiteness in the food system as a whole.
	And this person really articulated it well.
	And also, thank you for sharing this book.
	What is so amazing about that book and also what's being discussed in that video is it really articulates how whiteness has infiltrated the way that we view and address our hunger cues because we are trying to adhere to very strict schedules that our bodies didn't, you know, they were not created to immediately adhere to.
	Like, you don't come out the womb being like, I will only eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
	Society tells you only eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
	And, like, think about how many times people don't eat after dinner, even though they're still hungry, because it's like, well, I can't eat after dinner.
	That'd be bad.
	Check out some more of my videos on this.
	What's she talking about?
	Well, it's a construct, you know?
	Everything is- money is a construct.
	Sexuality and gender is a construct.
	These people are- they're on drugs.
	They're on the wrong- bad drugs, pharma drugs.
	This is not- it's fine.
	That's what TikTok is good for.
	I love that.
	I'm happy for people.
	Well, let's go to Real News and play this because I want to get this out of here, which is the end of gas in NYC.
	Yeah, I was... The what?
	The end of gas.
	Oh, the end of gas.
	I got it.
	New York has passed the country's first statewide ban on using natural gas in most new buildings.
	NPR's Jeff Brady reports the state joins a growing trend, mostly among cities, to ban new gas hookups to meet climate change goals.
	The New York statewide ban is focused on reducing climate warming emissions from buildings.
	Starting in 2026, most new buildings under seven stories will have to use electricity for energy needs, such as space and water heating and cooking.
	New York Governor Kathy Hochul says commercial kitchens are exempt from the requirement, and she told Fox 5 in New York existing buildings are exempt.
	But for new construction?
	Why not put in what's going to be long-term, less expensive for you, and better for the environment, and for your kids' futures?
	Well, I wish I had known you were going to play this because then I would have played my supercut just before this.
	Because this, gas stoves replacing being kicked out of your home, that was a conspiracy theory.
	You might think that the U.S.
	government is coming for your gas stove.
	That is a new and absolutely ridiculous one.
	Turns out Fox News and Republicans are up in arms because they say the government is coming to take your stoves.
	What Republicans are saying is, dammit, they're gonna take your gas stove.
	GOP have been stoking a ridiculous new freakout about gas stoves.
	No one is taking your gas stove.
	The right-wing freakout over the use of gas stoves is merely the latest in a long series of made-up culture war battles designed to enrage and rile up their right-wing and paranoid Republicans are prone to conspiracy theories, whether it's, you know, the kooky, like, JFK Jr's coming back from the dead to run with Trump, or, um, the sort of duplicitous, like, this administration's coming to take away your gas stoves.
	Republicans have turned a government warning about your health into a lie about Democrats trying to take your stoves?
	You get some bureaucrat saying something that has no power, and then suddenly, You have Ron DeSantis, so I'm going to protect your gas stoves.
	Everybody's going to be talking about gas stoves.
	It's so stupid.
	People were tweeting at me this weekend that Ron DeSantis is going to protect my gas stoves.
	But I don't seem to be bothered.
	What the heck?
	They share stupidity of it.
	And if it were just bloggers, that would be one thing.
	But when you have Kevin McCarthy going out and other people talking about gas stoves, because they keep getting dumber and dumber.
	The Republican Party has become addicted to this culture of lies and conspiracy theories that they have fomented, right?
	And so they know that there is a substantial number of people in the country, in their party, who they can convince that this is true.
	and that it will enrage those people.
	This is the economy of and the culture of conspiracy theories, right?
	Right.
	I'm certain you and I will be able to drive through parts of the country 10 years from now, and people will be saying, do you remember back when Joe Biden was in office and they tried to take away our gas stoves?
	I think that kind of sums up the media.
	Wow, great clip.
	And then I would follow that... By the way, within that clip, that one woman said, oh, and the conspiracy theorists think that JFK... Oh, she's JFK, okay.
	Yeah, Junior, Junior.
	But, but... JFK, Junior.
	Here's the 30-second payoff, which is kind of the same as what you just played.
	New York City is moving to snuff out gas stoves.
	New York becoming the first state to ban natural gas and other fossil fuels in most new buildings, including gas stoves.
	The new law requires all electric heating and cooking in new buildings shorter than seven stories by 2026.
	Don't you just love it?
	To me, that is the epitome of what cable news, it's not even all cable news, some of it's mainstream, network news, has become.
	of fossil fuels for heating and cooking.
	The law is the first statewide ban in the nation and goes into effect in 2026 for buildings under seven stories.
	Don't you just love it?
	That, to me, that is the epitome of what cable news, it's not even all cable news, it's mainstream network news, has become.
	Political bullshit.
	And we have to sit here, and it's so bad that it's at the end of the show we gotta throw this in there. .
	Unbelievable.
	I'm gonna add one more to it, because I'm delighted to see, this is part of wokeism, which is trans-Maoism, which is communism, which is Marxism.
	They set us up, started to destroy the American family, black families first, get the men out of the home.
	Baby mama culture.
	Good job, everybody.
	Good job, Kardashians.
	So we've done that.
	Now we've got to ruin everyone else.
	Ruin your children, your kiddos.
	But thank goodness, when it comes to beer, Americans just, that's where we draw the line for some reason.
	Especially Bud Light.
	They got a dude named Ben here.
	There are some consequences.
	I'm a network engineer at Redacted and do support for Redacted.
	I got a ticket for a major outage from Bud Light.
	I sent them chasing their tails.
	Whoops!
	And then this unfortunate news.
	This is your Morning Rundown.
	I'm Kai Martin.
	Today is Friday.
	It's May 5th, 2023, and here's what's happening right now.
	Several gay bars in Chicago announced they will stop selling Anheuser-Busch products.
	This is in response to how the company is handling backlash from a Bud Light campaign with a transgender influencer.
	Some conservatives began boycotting the brand a month ago when Dylan Mulvaney created a sponsored post promoting Bud Light.
	The company released a statement that made no direct mention of the LGBTQ community and the marketing executives behind the campaign with Mulvaney were put on leave.
	Then yesterday, the Belgian-American conglomerate's CEO minimized the company's involvement in a sponsored post with the influencer, saying, quote, it wasn't a campaign.
	In response to that, some of Chicago's largest gay bars now say they will no longer sell Anheuser-Busch products.
	Both Sidetrack in North Halsted, as well as Two Bears Hospitality Group, which operates several establishments in Uptown, say they will stop selling any beer made by the company, including the local brand, Goose.
	Goose River, I think it is.
	So this will go down as this will be Marketing 101, Crisis Management 101.
	What a huge fiasco!
	Not only did you alienate your core user of your product, But you alienated the people you were pandering to!
	It's double whammy.
	It's a classic.
	It is so beautiful to see this.
	And this will end the influencer gig.
	This is going to end.
	Marketing managers are peeing their pants right now.
	Uh-oh.
	This can really go wrong.
	And this will, in part, take down the importance of social media.
	This is a seminal moment.
	This is an optimist about stuff like that.
	Yes, and I'm going to go stroke my light phone.
	I am an optimist.
	I am an optimist.
	That's right.
	I'm an optimist and you're a don't-say-realist.
	Duh!
	I'm a don't-say-realist.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you very much.
	Uh, for checking us out once again.
	Great news!
	You do not want to leave the troll room.
	You want to stay on because up next we have Nick the Rat with the interview with the one and only Mimi Dvorak!
	With her Too Many Eggs book.
	TooManyEggs.com.
	I haven't even promoted it yet, this show.
	So make sure you stay tuned for that.
	End of show mixes from Dee's Last Omega Man and Phantomville, we appreciate that.
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	Until then, adios mofos, a hooey hooey, and sun!
	Wow.
	So, if I seem distracted right now, I am completely distracted by the ramifications of this.
	I mean, this is a big deal.
	It's about, say, he, not she.
	You're part of the problem now.
	This is not even about the pronouns.
	The pronouns is what confused parents to start with.
	Okay?
	So, just stay with the story and don't get distracted.
	Don't get distracted.
	Biden's pullout in Afghanistan.
	Doom scrolling, but no doomsday plans.
	Bye.
	Quiet quitting, even the Taliban.
	OG, he's the latest, low-level, age 20-something to blow the whistle.
	Demonized and put to the side, I'm blessing up with thistle.
	Leaking Pentagon papers, you're in a private discourse chat room.
	But when it gets overwhelming, I just think about Jordan Peterson saying, clean your... clean your room.
	Exposing super sensitive info, is it right?
	Whitney Webb's unlimited hangout, Don.
	In plain sight, over in the corner of the internet.
	Is it a square?
	Never be too careful, like the Silk Road.
	I mean, I'm Ross Albright.
	Just wait.
	Just... I'm gonna interrupt this moment because of that pronoun thing.
	Transfer violence.
	And the restrict act.
	John Devorak calling bullcrap on Bellingcat.
	This whole thing is bullcrap.
	Influencers on Instagram.
	Algorithms.
	I mean, it's all a sham.
	And then these influencers looking to the camera with shit-eating grins.
	Nike and Bud Light ain't right for putting out campaign ads again.
	With this Dylan Mulvaney clown targeting confused children.
	But these university kids nowadays are grubbing for they what?
	Grubbing for the, grubbing for their grades.
	Can't debate a different viewpoint without being sent into a rage.
	Just relax and smoke a joint.
	Throw in a fit, not looking too fit.
	And interrupting speakers on the stage.
	They can't behave.
	Activists spitting in the face of your customer base.
	But light has been in decline for a really, really long time.
	Eric Adams in the New York Robocop.
	Though a trans-mower with society is a multi-level plot.
	How long did you say SpaceX was building rockets?
	We'll be right back.
	Thank you.
	I sure hope Elon Musk and his crew know what they're doing.
	If not, I got my butt strapped to one million tons of TNT.
	This is your captain speaking.
	We will be cruising at an altitude of one million feet.
	Clear weather expected today.
	Buckle in and enjoy the trip.
	He was standing there alone, the ship waiting.
	All systems are go!
	They reported.
	Nobody was convinced, but the computer said it had the evidence.
	No need to abort.
	The countdown starts.
	I was watching in a trance.
	My crew was certain.
	Nothing was left to chance.
	It's all working.
	I was trying to relax, sitting in the capsule.
	Hey, send me up a martini!
	Chokes major time.
	The count calls on.
	Four, three, two, one.
	Earth be yours.
	Drifting, falling.
	Clowny, weightless.
	Calling, calling.
	Please, if somebody hears me.
	Give love to my mother.
	That blasting is not much.
	Somebody cut corners over here!
	Somebody tweet!
	Tweet!
	Send that tweet now!
	Elon!
	Elon, do you read Major Tom?
	Send another shit, son!
	Send it!
	I want to get home.
	That's right.
	TikTok!
	TikTok. TikTok.
	TikTok. TikTok. TikTok.
	TikTok.
	Did you hear another part of that?
	Tick tock!
	That's right!
	Tick tock!
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