This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1552.
This is No Agenda.
Cranking up the drone wars and broadcasting live.
I'm not a Star Wars fan.
We're here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, considering the date, we're all saying the same thing.
May the fourth be with you.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
Oh, yeah, I forgot all about that.
I'm not a Star Wars fan.
I mean, I watched the first one in Empire Strikes Back, and that was it.
I was done.
That was it.
I didn't need any more than that.
Yeah?
It was enough.
It was enough.
Well, I will say, there's not going to be any Star Wars movies for a while.
It's happened twice in the existence of this show, and both times it has only benefited us.
It has?
What?
What?
I mean, I know it's... What?
What?
The writer's strike!
Yeah, I know.
It's only been once during the show.
Yeah, this is the second time.
Yeah, this is the second time.
And it lasted, the first one lasted 100 days and it took, it ruined the business and it hurt the bottom line in Hollywood and California.
And I don't see, and the thing is, I think I think I have a clip about this, maybe.
I have a clip.
I'm a backgrounder.
It's from France 24 because, you know, at least they try to give us some valid reporting.
It is day one of the first Hollywood writer's strike in 15 years and writers have certainly turned out in huge numbers, hundreds of people.
Marching right now in front of the Netflix headquarters in Hollywood, chanting slogans like, corporate greed has got to go, no contract, no script, and LA is a union town, and that's what seems to be the case.
We've heard lots of support, lots of cars, dozens and dozens of them honking their horns in support of these riders as they drive by.
These riders who are asking for several things, including better pay, streaming residuals or royalties for when a show that they've been working on is then sold on to a streaming giant like Netflix.
And also mandatory staffing.
But that last point is the one that was really the major sticking point in negotiations with these entertainment companies.
And that is what led to those talks breaking down last night.
We're already seeing some consequences.
Some of those late-night talk shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, all going into reruns starting tonight.
And of course, the longer this strike goes on, the more consequences we will start seeing on the entertainment world here in Hollywood.
I've always loved this, except this time, they're really screwed.
They're totally screwed this time, because they're not going to get anything they want.
There's no residuals in streaming.
They all accepted these deals like, okay, well... And they got bonused on them.
Yes, they got extra money upfront.
Not on the side of the writers, being a writer myself, I'm not in that union.
But I will say this, they were giving them extra money because of the no residual situations from the streamers, Netflix and those guys.
They were throwing money around like it was crazy.
Netflix and Amazon Studios, tons of money flying around.
And my understanding is that these studios also expected this strike some years ago and have put so much stuff in the can.
Yeah.
That they can float for a year.
Well, so there's a number of things.
And I'm not against organized labor.
I'm not against unions.
I think I am a... I'm pro-union.
I'm SAG-AFTRA, I believe, although I've never made enough money to get into the retirement fund.
I used to get, I don't even get money from him anymore, I used to get 12 cents from, seriously, I would get, or like a dollar five, I would get a residual check from Swamp Thing.
Swamp Thing!
And Circus of the Stars also got me residuals for a little bit there.
But part of it is, you know, this per episode thing, and then, you know, on streaming, you know, if you would do Friends today, which had, what, 30 episodes a season, it would have eight.
Yeah, so there's a per episode thing.
Yeah, that's the other thing.
Everyone's subscribed to these eight episodes.
In fact, even on network TV, there was one show called The Good Place, which was a funny show, but it varied.
It wasn't even the same from year to year.
It was ten episodes, and then they'd take a year and a half off.
Because when we get 10 good episodes or 12 good episodes, we'll put another season together.
And they go on and on.
I never even watched.
I like that show, but I never even watched the last season.
It was like a two year delay for it to come out because they've taken their time.
I mean, come on.
And Sid Caesar used to do like 40 shows a year, hour and a half comedies, all original.
Hey, we do 110.
We do 110 three-hour shows.
The writers, now you see, like, none of the late-night shows, all those guys, they're worthless without their writer room, and the jokes are okay, but, you know, they write more than the jokes, it's the questions, it's the interviews, it's all so incredibly phony and just bullcrap.
And please, Writers Guild of America, members, don't write us and tell me, you don't know what it's about!
I don't care.
We have the list of what it's about.
You sent it to me.
Yeah, it's a huge list.
One of our guys is involved in this strike and he sent us a huge list of all the demands and all the counter-proposals.
Put it in the show notes.
Everyone can take a look at it.
But, you know, the world has changed.
It changed, I mean, it changed for every writer.
I mean, look at the magazine business.
If you want to go back to the early days, like, let's say when the magazine business was flourishing.
You were a millionaire back in the day.
You were riding high in the hog.
You had limo, 24-hour service.
You had your money in a brown paper bag.
I did.
Can you turn your speakers down just a little bit?
Just a tad.
And then if you, sure.
And so if you go to back, let's say in the 70s, you go back to that, There was a period of time before that where there was called the short story market where all these magazines like Colliers and all these used to publish short stories and then there were quarterlies that would do stuff like that.
Did that business, who's, what short story writer do you personally know?
I don't know of any.
But also, if you look at the business, Disney Plus, Netflix, Paramount, These guys are bleeding money.
The whole thing was short-sighted.
They all, oh, we're going to get in the streaming business of the future.
Yeah, maybe during the lockdown, you know, there was some business, some future in it.
But then that ended during COVID and, you know, people aren't going back to the movies.
It's just, it's a different world.
And the free money train is over.
It is over.
So, you know, there's just not any money, speculative money that's going into these projects.
You know, most companies are crowdfunding these days.
I mean, by the way, speaking of, bullcrap media companies, Vice Media, finally, finally this thing is going out of business.
Oh, there's Buzz, BuzzFeed, BuzzKill, or whatever the hell the name of that thing was.
No, screw that.
Vice Media.
Which, I mean, Bloom and I used to look at this thing all the time, like, how are these guys doing it?
Basically, they started as a magazine in Canada, you know, Shane Smith, bullcrap artist, Gavin McInnes, who started Proud Boys and then ran around on his podcast with a dildo up his butt, flying people.
They started by hoodwinking Murdoch into a $70 million investment.
But then they raised in total 900 million dollars from Time Warner, from all these different companies, and they had no business model.
They were basically an advertising company that made hip content.
You know, and then they actually bought an ad consulting company with 500 people.
They built a 60,000 square foot facility in Brooklyn.
And finally, it's like, no one is dumb enough to put money into it.
And now it's just going out of business.
It's like it's all of this was bullcrap it was built on bull and a lot that's what a lot of this the streaming stuff I'm sorry writers and Spotify who of course allowed Gimlet and Parcast to unionize under the WGA.
So now the podcasts are affected by this.
You know all these... What?
Yes!
I know about the unionization at Gimlet and some of the other efforts, but that's under the Writers Guild?
WGA East, yeah.
But that was also... That's crazy!
It was premised on bull, because you and I talked about this all the time, like, you can't... the podcast model does not work with executive producers and producers and line producers and editors.
No, it works when one or two people do it themselves Themselves, and then maybe, maybe you're lucky enough to have an extra person, or, like we do value for value, we make everybody a producer, and give everybody credit for making the show, and make everyone feel that they're part of the show, but no, they went all Hollywood, and then when the money dried up, well, start selling your Neumann mics, people!
I'm working off a $700 piece of gear here.
They had $70,000 worth of gear.
Yeah, and your gear sounds better.
In fact, as we talked about earlier before the show, I've always thought you should win an award, and I'm guaranteeing that you will.
And you know what?
I'm going to snub the Academy.
It's not going to be from them.
Accepting on Adam Coe's behalf, Robert Downey Jr.
You know, something like that.
I'm not going to go.
No, but it's sad because I don't think there's going to be an agreement that is satisfactory for the writers who really just have to find... They should be doing pot, in fact!
I was just talking to my buddy, who got kicked out of Disney.
Oh yeah, our friend.
I'd never met him, but I consider him a friend from afar.
Yes, and I have had dinner, I've stayed at his house, so we actually are friends.
Yeah, so you're buddies, you're real true friends.
And he's, you know, they still have him on payroll because, oh, oops, they couldn't actually kick him out because, you know, the whole division started to fall apart.
So, oh, could you please stay?
Oh, that's not reported.
Well, I'm probably already going further than I should, but as we were talking, we agreed.
You cannot, Hollywood, they don't see it, they cannot go up against the number one non-union content producer in the world, which is taking all the money.
And that is TikTok.
TikTok is where all the money is!
He agreed with me!
Yeah.
It's funny.
I mean, I hearken back to the 90s when there was a crossover point.
This happens every so often.
It's not observed well by the pundit class.
And that was the crossover point where the game, computer game and console business was making more money than the movie business.
Oh, hundreds of millions more, I would say.
Yes, they were making and profiting more than the movie business.
And these crossover points take place all the time.
And it's like when something crosses over and then everything has to adjust once it happens.
And Hollywood, from what I can tell, really has been very reluctant to adjust to anything.
Well, of course, because it's all been such a wonderful system, like, oh, yes, well, you know, I have guaranteed minimums, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And that just, yeah, look, I've been in Hollywood.
Look, you've been in Hollywood, you know how it goes.
It's a bunch of arrogant dicks, and everyone's in on the game.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of very talented people, make no mistake.
Incredibly talented people.
But, you know, but all of it is the fire leaves you, you know, the fire.
And how great is the writing?
How great is the writing been?
And let's just add to that that the streamers, but Hollywood, whatever you want, the content creation business, they are also captured by the magical artificial intelligence.
And I think they truly believe that they can cut costs by using chat GPT to build a bare bones script.
These people are insanely stupid.
Absolutely correct.
Insanely stupid.
So this is another thing, and they're not going to give up on that.
That's what the writers apparently also want.
Guarantees that exactly that will not happen.
I think I have an article.
Yeah, here it is.
Hollywood writers demanding studios regulate AI so it doesn't steal their jobs.
Now, of course it's going to steal your jobs.
Yeah, how about this?
Just people on TikTok are going to be the new millionaires.
They're doing a great job.
A lot of them are already millionaires.
Yeah.
They're going to create groovy stuff and people will enjoy it.
It'll be short form.
Everyone's all jacked up, all jacked up, like 30 seconds.
Mega drug hits.
Some of this stuff goes on forever.
I want to, since you brought up the AI thing with these guys, I want to bring up an AI clip.
Okay.
It's the only one I have, so we're going to talk about AI.
Okay.
You know there's Seaguar and Crystal Ball, they have this podcast.
By the way, can I just say, I find her outfits odd.
Oh, I only listen on audio, so I don't see what she's wearing.
Well, you and I as producers, you know, so they have a, first of all, congratulations to them because they left, where'd they leave?
They left the Hill.
The Hill.
And everyone was like, you idiots!
And they did a pretty good job and they crowdfunded stuff.
People like what they're doing?
I think of all the people that did a spinoff like that arrogantly, with criticism, I think they did a great job.
They have a working operation.
Although, if you listen to their more recent podcast, they want to get more money so they can buy a big studio.
I heard that.
Wait, wait.
The Curry Dvorak Consulting Group would like to make a statement.
Don't do it!
You're stupid!
We just have to say Leo Laporte.
Don't do it!
Joe Rogan's studio is like a little space that he sub-leases from a fitness company in an industrial area of Austin.
What you see is what it is.
It's a small studio.
You don't need big studios.
You don't need to be... Don't go that... Whatever you're doing now, the thing that you have, the... What is it?
Green screen?
I'm not quite sure what it is.
It's fine!
Don't... Don't throw the money away!
Would you agree, partner?
Absolutely!
It's crazy!
You know, unless you want to think you're going to turn into some, you know, massive, this is the problem is getting a big head instead of just pocketing the profits.
Stop!
Shrink your head!
Shrink your head.
So they have, they're so big now that they have this, this couple whose name is Emily and Ryan.
So every once in a while they take, they have the shows theirs.
And Emily, Emily's here talking about AI and how it's making an incursion and she makes a comment in here that and she's I thought I would have thought initially listening to because I've never heard these two before that she's like coke head she sounds coked up but in fact when you listen when you listen to her the whole package you can even doing Hollywood coke stop it you can tell she has a cold okay because she you can hear
She's not coked up.
She has just got a cold, but she sounds terrible.
And here she is going on a little bit about AI and she drops a little bombshell in here that just I'm just a head shaker.
Oh my gosh, and that's what Hinton is saying.
I mean, he's saying, you know, if you think about what AI sees as increasing its power, what an algorithm might see as increasing power, it's cloning itself.
It is going after other people that threaten its power.
Just logically, you can understand how an algorithm would get from point A to point B.
And that creates something that spirals out of human control very, very quickly.
And so I am concerned about things like teenagers using AI and getting, you know, basically sexually assaulted by AI.
I think that's a huge concern.
Woo!
Don't touch me there!
Show me on the doll where the AI assaulted you.
What is that?
Can you believe that?
Well, you know, assault these days is just saying, you know, like, hey, nice dress, you know, and that's sexual assault.
Yeah, nice tits.
Ooh!
Stop it.
I don't like the word tits.
It's always bothered me.
I don't know why.
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
Look within.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Grasshopper shall do that.
Well, so I, you know, this is like, people are, they're out of control in their analysis of AI.
Okay, luckily I have a few clips to talk about this.
Yeah, okay.
I would have gotten more.
This one I just thought was okay.
I don't know if you could top that one, but you can, I'm sure, come up with some goodies.
Well, a couple things.
Let's just, it's almost like, you know, all these euphemisms.
99% of what people are talking about is not artificial intelligence.
I'm sorry, 100%.
There is no intelligence that exists outside of humans and mammals, I guess, or biological organisms.
I think that's safe to say.
So to say it's artificial intelligence, there is no intelligence.
There's only copy-paste, you know, scoring things.
None of this is true.
The emails we get from people, well, you know, it's going to be AI, it's going to be great for people.
Well, yeah, sure.
We have all kinds of tools.
You know, Photoshop, if you want to call it, is AI.
Photoshop, there's all kinds.
I agree 100% with this, what you just said.
Photoshop is AI.
You said 100%.
We have to rock against that.
We have to rock against the 100%.
I only picked it up recently.
I know, I'm trying to break it.
And unlike you, I won't be able to turn it off so quickly, so you're going to have to call, but I appreciate being called out.
Yeah.
So, you know, that is not artificial intelligence.
You know, transcripts, it's incredible that We use otter.ai and it costs 20 bucks a month and I throw the mp3 in there and like an hour later it poops out and it's recognized your voice, it tags you.
Now of course, half the time it'll say, it'll spell your name J-A-H-N-S-I, John C. Dvorak.
Sometimes it gets it right, but it's still, even identifying different voices is quite... That's remarkable.
It's remarkable, but it's not artificial intelligence.
We have a lot of this stuff.
So, what people are calling art.
Now, Tina does all of the resumes for the kids.
You know, because this is what she does.
She's very good at it.
She also coaches.
You know, here's how you want to ask for this.
You know, there's money for this.
And so, one of the girls is, you know, up for review and she wants to ask for some more money.
And so Tina says, you know, okay, I'll write this up.
So now I have something, I'll send that to you, you take a look at it.
And she says to me, oh, wow, she really wrote something herself.
And she's reading it to me, John, within 30 seconds of like, chat GPT.
Yeah.
And then she went, oh, you're right.
And then we could identify, you know, there's some repetition of certain phrases.
Just chat GPT.
And that's not going to fly.
You know, I don't care how good it gets.
It's just, it's not, you know, so well, you know, it's a good start to make it worse.
I know there's tools coming, tools that are just designed to spot this stuff.
Of course.
And so you just run it through.
It's like the same thing like the stolen papers that professors run.
You run it through the system.
The computer goes both ways.
It's like a double-edged sword.
It cuts one way and then cuts the other.
So you can't get away with this for long.
And you know what?
I'll believe AI is real when it really can stop spam.
Okay?
And why isn't that the first application?
Why isn't that the first one?
Or spam phone calls for that matter.
Oh, have you been, I've been getting these texts.
I don't know.
And it's, it's been recent, so I'm not sure what happened.
And it goes like this.
And I bet you a lot of people are getting these.
Hey, this number has been in my phone for a long time, but I really don't know who this is.
Who are you?
Oh, I've not heard about this, but it's a great idea.
I get a lot of these.
Let me see if there's more.
It's like, um, hey, um, uh, it's all variations of that.
Let me see if I hadn't, I usually get rid of them.
Uh, this one came in this morning and it's, and it's not from, it's like two on three numbers or, uh, you know, like known area codes, not necessarily some bull crap one.
But it's text messages, which is a bit concerning.
I wish I could find another one of those.
But it's always, um... How's the storm?
Oh, how's the storm?
Did it pass you yet?
Oh, I don't know you!
You know, it's stuff like that.
But it's always like, hey, did we meet?
Have you done the follow up to find out what's going on?
No, I have a life.
I have things to do.
You have to follow up.
I'm not going to follow up.
All right.
So then we have a big, big, big thing happened in AI world.
Because remember, we all have to be very, very afraid.
Everybody who is not, who doesn't have an AI play, Let's just call it what it is, that's how the venture capitals talk about it.
Do they have an AI play?
No, Elon Musk does not have an AI play.
So what does he have to do?
He has to sign the joint letter to say, we need to stop six months so I can catch up and get my own AI play, get it funded.
And now, oh no!
It's technology that could be superior to the human brain.
Okay!
France 24, go baby!
And one of its pioneers now says part of him regrets his role in creating it.
This is nothing better than the creator coming out and saying, oh!
75-year-old computer scientist Jeffrey Hinton says he quit his job at Google so he can independently share his concerns about AI technology.
What do you want to say?
I was gonna say, yeah, because he's a forced retirement.
Get out of the company!
Which include fears over disinformation and stealing human jobs, but also goes far beyond that.
This is a trend.
We heard the Writers Guild of America talk about stealing jobs.
We're picking up on something.
And now France 24 is talking about AI stealing jobs.
Which include fears over disinformation and stealing human jobs, but also go far beyond that.
What do we do to mitigate the long-term risks of Okay, let's just break this down.
He says he has more knowledge than any human ever has.
Bullcrap!
Things like GPT-4 eclipses a person in the amount of general knowledge it has, and eclipses them by a long way.
In terms of reasoning, it's not as good, but it does already do simple reasoning.
Okay, let's just break this down.
He says it has more knowledge than any human ever has.
Bull crap.
I have Google.
And he also said in terms of reasoning, it's not very good.
No, exactly.
And that's the other thing.
They said, well, it could have more effect.
I was thinking the same thing you just said, which is that we have never We've accumulated in our own brains the Encyclopedia Britannica, but we've always had the Encyclopedia that we could look – it's like an extension.
It's like a human extension.
Right.
So how is it going to really outdo us?
Because all of those human extensions are the only thing that it has access to.
It's not developing new stuff out of the blue.
Also, I think that as a human, I have Google food.
I mean, I can search things and get answers that other people can't because I know how to input the queries.
Oh, I'm great at a prompt query.
I'm a prompt engineer.
Douchebags.
This is a whole new category of douchebag.
I'm a prompt engineer.
Didn't you just admit to being one?
I am one, but I don't put it on my resume.
And given the rate of progress, we expect things to get better quite fast.
So we need to worry about that.
Worry about it!
It's getting better quite fast.
Worry about it!
Can I ask you something?
Please.
Who is this guy?
This is the Google AI pioneer.
I never heard of him!
No, of course not!
Have you heard of him?
No, they don't even mention his name!
A.I.
Pioneer.
They do mention his name on and off again, but he's such an A.I.
Pioneer, how come I haven't heard of him?
And he's old enough, he's 75, so he's old enough to have been part of that first A.I.
go-round back in the 80s.
He took his absence when they knew they were going to kick him out because that's what Google's doing, they're getting rid of everybody, and he's out there now doing this to get his own, he wants money!
It's like, how can I score some money?
Oh, maybe if I warn about this, someone will pick me up as a... What's the word?
An artificial intelligence... Ah!
Ethics!
Ethics guy!
Ethics professional!
There'll be something like that.
Actually, that analysis is 100%.
Oh!
You have to stop this!
I would try to stop it in mid...
It's just the latest warning that tech companies might be creating a monster they can't control.
In March, after OpenAI released the latest model of its chatbot, GBT4, more than a thousand people from the tech industry, including billionaire Elon Musk, And Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak signed a letter calling for a... Wozniak dated Kathy what's-her-face.
He's not a smart guy.
Remember that?
Kathy Griffin.
Do you remember he dated her?
Wozniak did?
Yes!
He's been married for a long time.
He's a good guy.
Everyone loves Wozniak.
Sure, but doesn't mean he's smart.
That was a bad date.
And Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak signed a letter calling for a pause on AI development while the risks are properly studied.
While organizations like the OECD have issued guidelines, little AI regulation exists.
The U.S.
just launched a study of possible accountability measures in April, and the European Union has put forward an Artificial Intelligence Act, but the far-reaching legislation has yet to be passed.
So this is all, this is just another gambit.
I know you agree with me, so it's not even a discussion to be had.
Silicon Valley tech companies, they have nothing.
By the way, it costs some astronomical, obscene amount to keep the servers running for this no-business model business they have.
You can't advertise on chat GPT.
What are you going to do with that?
How are you going to suck the information out of people?
How are you going to suck them dry and shove ads in their face?
Well, right now they're using a subscription model.
Oh, but who's going to pay for that?
People don't pay for stuff.
They won't pay for it.
They won't.
I agree.
I agree.
And there's enough open source versions that, you know, I mean, you can even transcripts you can now run on your own computer.
I just don't want to dedicate a machine to it.
And I'm happy to just give it to someone else who improves it.
I don't, I don't, I have no time to maintain it.
So that's, that's, it's not a business.
So now they have to involve the government.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, regulation.
Okay.
So now we can be regulated, which means we have all the money and then we can charge companies.
You know, they're moving away from the business-to-consumer model with this.
And, of course, they're using up more energy than all of Bitcoin put together.
Make no mention of that.
And even in the United States, of course, now we have to set up meetings.
Do you have a meeting, everybody?
This is from CNBC.
This is Gina Raimondo.
She's our Commerce Secretary.
An AI genius, I say.
We also want to lead the world in AI.
AI!
But we want to do it safely.
Safely!
Madam Secretary, you're part of this meeting that the Vice President is holding tomorrow with... Oh, Kamala Harris is holding a meeting with Gina Raimondo about AI.
I would pay money to sit in that meeting.
Oh, I would like to be a fly on the wall.
I can't wait for the Vice President to talk about AI.
Please, Kamala, tell us.
They better bring the cameras and the crew.
We want to see this.
We want that live.
CEOs of Google and Microsoft and OpenAI, and I'm curious what the goal is and what your concern level is around some of this technology.
The concern level is high.
You know, it's a challenge.
Because on the one hand, the excitement level is high.
When you think about the promise and potential of AI, and what it means for advances in healthcare, advances in education, advances in business, as you say... Healthcare, baby!
Healthcare!
Because Chad GPT can fix you!
Healthcare!
It's the advantages!
This is huge!
The future is all ahead of us!
There's a world of possibilities.
In healthcare, advances in education, advances in business, as you say, we're in the lead and we want to keep the lead.
But it has to be done safely.
It's an incredibly powerful technology.
So we want to have a serious discussion with industry.
Tomorrow will be one discussion among many that we're having with many stakeholders to try to figure out how we go fast But without breaking things.
Wow.
That's a great twist on Facebook's motto.
Very good, Gina.
So stupid.
All right.
I want to move off of this.
I want to move you into some of your clips because I see what you have here.
I think it is the news of the day and we will have different takes on this.
I will start with a short clip of Nigel Farage interviewing presidential hopeful and former president Donald Trump.
About the drone war.
Now, Putin, I mean, Putin today, they're saying there's been an attempted drone strike by the Ukrainians on the Kremlin.
We don't yet know the full truth.
Have you seen that story?
I have not seen it yet.
OK, right.
Well, you know, that's a big story.
That's yeah.
I mean, they're quite small drones, but let's see what the truth of it is.
There's a growing, I sense in America, unhappiness about the money that's been given to Ukraine.
Why doesn't anybody talk about peace and peace negotiations?
So, if I were president, and I say this, I will end that war in one day.
It'll take 24 hours.
I know Zelensky well.
I know Putin well.
I would get that ended in a period of 24 hours.
You can break that deal?
100% it would be...
100%, ah!
Trump is even saying...
Yes!
Even Trump is saying it!
100%!
I'm so disappointed that people do this.
Okay, so let's talk about this drone.
You've got clips.
Yeah, this is the clips from Al Jazeera.
So it's actually an interesting report.
Uh, let's start and just go with it.
I mean, I didn't, I intended just to play this first part, this first clip, which is you, you wanted to clip one.
but as I kept playing it's a long report and I kept playing I gotta clip this, I gotta clip that So it turns out to be pretty long.
Let's go with the setup.
Russia has threatened retaliation for what it says was an assassination attempt on President Vladimir Putin.
The Kremlin says two drones were used in an attack on the presidential residence in the early hours of Wednesday.
It claims Ukraine was behind it.
But Kyiv strongly denies the allegations.
This is what the Kremlin says was an attempt on the life of Vladimir Putin.
An object is intercepted by air defences.
Russia says it was a drone, one of two that officials say were launched by Ukraine in an audacious attack aimed at the Kremlin complex.
Two unmanned aerial vehicles were aimed at the Kremlin, an official statement reads.
As a result of timely actions taken by the military and special services with the use of radar warfare systems, the devices were put out of action.
I think there's a backdrop to this, that there was a so-called drone which looked like an oversized RC aircraft, apparently with a block of C4 in it, that didn't quite make it to Moscow and crash landed, and there's photos of that didn't quite make it to Moscow and crash landed, and I mean, it's sort of like, it's like one of those remote control planes that you see, you know, at a demo, a demonstration day.
Yeah.
This is not a Reaper drone.
No, these are dipshit drones.
Dipshit drones, exactly.
So then I said, that's the report.
That's pretty much all we need.
But then it goes on, they start to do some analysis.
And in this next clip, they have the blinking clip that I've been trying to find.
Which is his, you know, the world's worst analogy.
You'll hear it in here and then we'll talk about it for a second because the guy doesn't seem to get the gist of this old analogy.
Let's play clip two.
So the Kremlin said that this wedge drone attack was a dry run, a preparation for May the 9th when Putin will be vulnerable because his Whereabouts are known in advance.
It is a theory that not everyone is convinced about.
I've seen the reports.
I can't in any way validate them.
We simply don't know.
Second, I would take anything coming out of the Kremlin with a very large shaker of salt.
What?
A shaker of salt?
So when I first heard about the shaker of salt comment, I was trying to dig it up and it turned out luckily it showed up in Al Jazeera.
This is the analogy, of course, as you know, you've heard it.
I'll take it with a grain of salt.
I mean, it's meaningless because a grain of salt is nothing.
It's a grain of salt.
Who cares?
But a shaker of salt is not meaningless.
That's a lot of salt.
Yes, it sure is.
So what is he trying to say?
Is this is actually saying that this is a big deal?
Because that's what his analogy implies.
Well, I think what he's trying to say is, it's Russian disinformation, we all know the Kremlin lies, but he's... No, that's what he's saying.
He's saying that overtly.
But to use the analogy of a grain of salt to a shaker of salt, he's an idiot.
Oh, I know.
He got this from Chad GPT.
It was a Chad GPT suggestion.
And, you know, I don't...
I don't think it was Ukraine.
I don't think it was something that... It was probably just some kid on the outskirts of Moscow.
I mean, this thing was nothing special.
Well, except for the C4.
Well, we don't know if this had C4 on it.
Well, I thought you said it was confirmed.
No, the first one.
But that crashed way short of mine.
But it doesn't matter.
To me, it's all distraction.
Let's see the rest of your clips.
I agree.
Clip three has got a laugh in it, so let's go there.
On a visit to Finland, President Zelensky denied Ukraine's involvement.
We don't attack Putin or Moscow.
We fight on our territory.
We're defending our villages and cities.
We don't have, you know, enough weapons for this.
He's begging for money again!
He got some!
I think we gave him some more money on Wednesday.
That's a slippery way of begging for money.
You know, we'd have nothing to do with it, but in fact, we can't afford it.
We can't afford it.
If you give us some money, maybe we'd do it.
Dude, we could crowdfund that drone.
This guy is unbelievable.
Wait until you hear my clips.
He sure is.
Okay, so here we go.
This is the final clip on the drone's reaction.
Yet even as air raid sirens sounded in the Ukrainian capital, the mere possibility that Ukraine had struck a blow at the heart of Russian power was thrilling for some.
My classmates and I have been talking about this all day.
It's very cool.
I'm very joyful.
It's lifted my spirits.
In its official statement, the Kremlin said it reserves the right to take retaliatory measures where and when it sees fit.
Well, of course they would say that.
So the Ukrainian students are all jacked up about this?
Yeah!
I mean, you really believe that?
This is, this is, this is just, this is propaganda.
This is more propaganda.
I mean, to a point, but they, they, they're somebody that wasn't like an actor.
Wait a minute, are the students in school?
I thought that Russia was attacking Kiev.
Everyone has to hide because they're getting ready for the spring offensive.
It's all propaganda.
All the journalists are hooting and hollering up in Poland.
They're all drinking, hanging out with the women of the night.
That's what you do.
Women of the night.
I don't know why I said that.
Alright, so let's get back to reality as we have to wind this war down.
We have to wind this war down.
We have an actual war, not an actual war, but we have sales jobs, we have stuff to do over there in Philippines, in Taiwan, the China Sea.
There's real money to be had, people.
We've got, this guy, he wants tiddlywinks.
There's no sales in these drones?
No, we've got to wind this down.
So how do we do it?
Well, let's crank up the old narrative of we're going to prosecute Putin.
Because it's not Russia, of course.
We love the Russian people.
It's all about Putin.
So how do we do that?
Well, we have to get him to the place where we have successfully prosecuted Putin before.
And that is The Hague, in the Netherlands.
And nothing like doing a little ceremony on the eve of May 5th, actually it was there May 4th, which is on the eve of May 5th.
May 5th is Liberation Day in the Netherlands, a big deal.
Is there something very impressive the Dutch still do?
And that is May 4th, 8 p.m.
There is a moment, a minute of silence, and literally people stop their cars on the highway, get out, and will just stand there and be silent for a minute to remember the fallen of World War II.
So of course we've got to bring this Nazi in.
Because the Azov Brigade is literally naming streets after Nazi heroes, and some of the Dutch are onto it now.
There's people writing about this in paper saying, hey, why is this guy here on this day?
But that would not be the message we get from Mark Rutte, and that is the way you pronounce it.
M5M.
Rutte.
Who is a unmarried, childless, former HR manager at Unilever.
Hey.
Yes?
How are they pronouncing it on the M5M?
Rutte.
Huh.
Jimmy Dore does it too.
Rutte.
Dude, call one Dutch person.
Call me.
Rutte.
Tell you what?
Anything you want.
So, Rutte is an unmarried, childless, former HR manager at Unilever.
Somehow he's been the Prime Minister for, I think, ten years now.
No, maybe even longer.
This is his fourth cabinet.
Keep him in there.
And he welcomes Volodimir to The Hague!
Volodimir, it has been now 434 days since you spoke a few simple words that resonated all over the world.
And I say what you were saying then.
Sorry, I gotta bust the Dutch guy.
And I, instead of, it's called quote.
I'll be quoting you, Rutte.
I'll quote you.
Instead of, I will say what you were saying then.
And I say what you were saying then.
We're all here defending our independence, our country, and it will stay this way.
That's what you said.
Those are riveting words!
My gosh, I'm so glad we're all in front of the Ukraine flag to hear those words.
Yeah, it's a regular Winston Churchill, that guy.
We're all here defending our independence, our country, and it will stay this way.
That's what you said.
And it would be an understatement to say that you've kept your word.
The resolve and courage of the brave soldiers and citizens of Ukraine is without precedent in our lifetime.
Wow!
Without precedent in our lifetime!
There's a lot of people who are still around in World War II, dude, who you're about to celebrate, and I would say, you know, there's some differences in World War II and what you're seeing in Ukraine, but okay.
And you yourself have become a symbol of what a country and... A country?
Oh, country.
I like the country.
Nice country.
have become a symbol of what a country and its people can do when they are fighting for their existence, their freedom, and their future.
And we all admire you for that.
Yes.
And by the way, everyone's in a suit.
You know, it's a nice reception.
And he's got his trademark, what is that, olive drab with a little logo in the middle, which is now his whole, that's his costume.
You know, that little Ukraine... Yeah, his costume is a tight-fitting t-shirt with sleeves.
Sleeved t-shirt.
Yeah, he's got his costume on.
Like Star Trek costume.
Alright, now let's get into the meat of what we're really doing here.
By the way, I think that this was organized by the State Department, the whole thing from beginning to end, and I think I can prove it.
Our State Department.
When I had the privilege to address the members of the Rada almost a year ago, I said, we will stay with you every inch of the way.
As far as I'm aware, Ukraine, the Netherlands, most of the EU, most of the world uses the metric system.
Why would you say every inch of the way unless it was written by the U.S.
State Department.
Winner.
Yeah.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
*Gasp* Seriously?
Oh, it could have been written by ChatGPT.
There you go, there you go.
Ergo, I said, we will stay with you every inch of the way.
And let me assure you, for Lord Ymir, that we too are determined to keep our word.
Now, let's get to the meat of the problem here.
What do we got to end this war, man?
What are we going to do?
Because this is an unjust war against everything we stand for.
Now, this is also American State Department talking points, an unjust war.
Since when is war just?
Is it ever really just?
I think you're onto something here.
This is an interesting situation.
It's quite likely that the State Department put this together.
Not only that, but it's corny.
Which is classic Blinken.
The whole shaker!
Inch by inch!
Exactly.
Step by step, slowly I turned.
Isn't inch by inch, isn't that the Robert De Niro speech in that football movie?
The inch by inch really comes from the three stooges, I think, or one of these.
Alright, it's not a just war.
It's not a just war, it's not fair!
Because this is an unjust war against everything we stand for.
This is a war against freedom, democracy, and the rule of law in our part of the world.
Rule of law!
Yeah, yeah, it's actually, as we know, it's a war of aggression.
Aggression.
That's why we stand with Ukraine.
By the way, the rule of law meme, blah, blah, blah, is very American.
Rule of law, of course, of course.
Democracy and the rule of law in our part of the world.
That's why we stand with Ukrainian people.
Yeah, the bastion of democracy which is Ukraine.
And why you can count on our unwavering support.
Unwavering?
Russia cannot win this war and it must be held accountable for all the crimes of aggression and the injustice.
There it is, the crimes of aggression.
We have to look at these euphemisms.
The crime of aggression.
So if I'm aggressive, that's a crime?
If I'm aggressive in my speaking patterns, if I'm aggressive on the playing field, if I'm aggressive in my academic studies, that is a crime?
They're literally calling the crime of aggression.
Help me, John.
I don't know, you're on a roll.
Russia cannot win this war and it must be held accountable for all the crimes of aggression and the injustice it is inflicting on the people of Ukraine day after day in this horrific war.
So what better place to meet than here in The Hague, the legal capital of the world?
What?
In case you didn't know, The Hague is the legal capital of the world.
Oh my god.
Uh-huh.
Isn't that where Miniature World is?
You know, Maduro dumb?
That's what it's called?
The Maduro Dome.
Yeah, it's actually close.
I think it's between The Hague and Rotterdam.
Miniature world.
This is quite cute.
Maduro Dome.
Oh, it's dynamite.
I would recommend anyone who has a chance to visit this little operation to do a little.
To go do it.
I'm fascinated.
Anyway, I'm with you on everything so far, but I've got my conclusion is different than yours.
By the way, Majuro Dom is in The Hague.
I'm sorry, it's not between The Hague and Rotterdam.
Thanks, NPC.
All right, what's your conclusion?
We're gearing up to actually do an invasion.
Boots on the ground, American soldiers.
No, absolutely not.
We're gearing up to end the war and we're doing it with all these fluffy words.
And the way we do it is we come up with a way to take the money that we confiscated, a legal way for the crimes of aggression.
then we prosecute Putin in the legal capital of the world, just like we did before.
So what better place to meet than here in The Hague, the legal capital of the world?
Ever since the downing of flight MH17, we in the Netherlands have known that justice doesn't come automatically.
And this was MH17, the Malaysian flight, which they still... Yeah, the rigged report.
Never been released.
The box has never been released.
It's phony.
The same... So they're just making The Hague look like a phony baloney operation when he brings that in.
And they brought in Bellingcat, the same...
intelligence operation who had all the proof of the booked rocket being shot from Russia.
No, it was Ukraine.
I mean, man, we did so much on it.
We had so much coverage of that.
So he's pulling these two together.
And of course, that's it's over now.
Oh, no, no, we already know that doesn't come easily.
But but you know, it we all know it's as good as it's as good as we basically have him hanging Putin.
For MH17, and we'll hang him for this too, so that everybody can take the money, final payout, everybody gets their cash.
That's what's going on.
MH17.
We in the Netherlands have known that justice doesn't come automatically.
You have to have staying power.
Staying power?
What does that mean?
It's like a deodorant commercial.
You need the Viagra of law.
I don't know what kind of staying power you need.
That's weird.
You know, the State Department.
Hey.
Hey, I know.
I was putting something funny.
I was putting the staying power, just to see if anyone catches it.
Make that Root guy say that.
Make him say that.
Okay, that's cool.
That justice doesn't come automatically.
You have to have staying power.
The Netherlands will do everything it can to ensure that justice is done for Ukraine, however long it takes and however difficult it may be.
The term is whatever it takes, but okay.
Vladimir, as you know, your visit to the Netherlands couldn't have come at a more symbolic moment.
Every year, on the 4th of May, we remember the Dutch victims of the Second World War and all the soldiers who have given their lives since then for peace and freedom worldwide.
Tomorrow, on the 5th of May, Liberation Day, we are fortunate that we can celebrate that we have been a free country since 1945.
And a lot of Dutch are pissed about this.
Like, what is that guy doing here?
This is our war remembrance for our people.
The country was flattened.
People ate sugar beets.
They ate nettle soup with rocks.
So, no.
No, they're not liking that.
So, Zelensky then goes to the International Criminal Court.
And does a little, and I'm not going to tell you what the backdrop, you know, all these things have a backdrop, you know, with their slogan.
And there was a printed slogan, which I'm not going to tell you just yet, because the term is used in this report from France 24.
Luckily, we don't have to listen to him talking.
We have the F-24 lady to tell us kind of exactly what Volodymyr said in this In this speech at the International Criminal Court.
He also talked about the importance of justice.
That there can be no peace without justice.
Literally on the background it said, no peace for Ukraine without justice.
Does that sound familiar?
It's one of our lefty slogans from the United States.
George Floyd, no justice, no peace.
Yeah, there's a George Floyd, yep.
But it's been around forever and it's always the same thing.
But now they've just turned it around and said there will be no peace for Ukraine without justice.
So what they're saying is, and the way I see it, is we will call peace after we have justice.
What is justice?
That means we convict Putin.
We don't have to throw him in jail.
We have, just like MH17, we convict him, we take the money that we confiscated, and then we make peace.
He also talked about the importance of justice, that there can be no peace without justice, because unless issues are fully properly resolved, they simply erupt again later on.
For him, it is vital that Vladimir Putin is held to account Repetition of aggression!
He made no bones about that.
And he also said that there should be stipulated in any negotiated peace agreement that there must be no repetition of aggression.
Repetition of aggression.
Oh, that horrible crime again.
By Russia towards Ukraine.
So he is very clearly setting out his points.
It is true that Ukraine might not get all at once.
And there is a lot of discussion about when this war might end and what might constitute some sort of acceptable settlement to Ukraine.
It's about the money.
And there are murmurings that perhaps Ukraine should settle for the...
So he's not gonna get Crimea.
and forget about Crimea.
He is saying, no way, we want Crimea back.
We want our territory and we want our values, which are universal values, respected.
What?
So he's not going to get Crimea.
He's just using that as a chip.
We need universal values.
Back to the 94, what did you say, 94?
Let me see.
They had a date.
I forgot what it was.
Let me just check it.
Was it this one?
Hey.
Oh, I have to rewind.
There we go.
Forget about Crimea.
He is saying no way.
Was it here?
For the 2014 borders.
Oh, the 2014 borders.
Okay.
Which is, which is kind of what Putin wants.
So we get the 2014 borders back, which is the Donbass region, which maybe is just a demilitarized zone.
And then you get your money.
Which is kind of, it's probably already been stolen by now, so everyone already had, you know, Zelensky has billions in offshore bank accounts.
This is coming to an end.
So I do not think there's boots on the ground coming, and the reason for that is this next report, which is obvious what everyone's looking at, because what do we have?
We have a dinky toy dipshit drone, Flying over the Kremlin, Volodymyr saying, we don't have, we don't have, we don't have this capability.
No, because it's all over here, bro.
Well, the Taiwan U.S.
Defense Industry Forum was an event where people gathered mainly to discuss how to buy and sell more weapons.
It lasted around three hours.
It took place in a convention center in Taipei and representatives of around 25 U.S.
defense contractors reportedly attended.
Days before here in Beijing, the spokesman of China's defense ministry said that he was quote-unquote extremely concerned about the forum.
He criticized the US's military-industrial complex and accused Taiwan's ruling DPP of inviting wolves into their home.
There's also been a few editorials that were published in Chinese state media criticizing the event last week.
In the past few days, though, we haven't seen much new.
This Wednesday morning, though, we have recorded an uptick In Chinese military activity in and around the Taiwan Strait and it is a little bit too early to say if this has a direct link to that event or not.
What I can say though is that the forum isn't really much of a big deal if you look at the bigger picture.
The US has already sold tens of billions of dollars worth of weapons to Taipei since 1979 and earlier this year Washington approved the sale of 619 million dollars worth of weapons including F-16 fighter jets to Taipei.
So we'll do whatever it takes for Ukraine.
But the F-16s are going to Taiwan.
Biggest sale of the year!
This is it.
This is the bonanza.
These deals do come, though, as Beijing has been ramping up pressure, military and political pressure on the south-ruried island in recent years.
So we'll do whatever it takes for Ukraine.
But the F-16s, they're going to Taiwan.
Biggest sale of the year.
This is it.
This is the bonanza.
They don't give a crap about Ukraine.
We're putting boots on the ground.
That's why Susan Rice quit.
Ah, she's...
She's running Mike Obama's campaign, bro.
Whatever it takes is a term that keeps coming up, and the only way Biden's gonna stay in office, he thinks, is if he gets feet on the ground, because that's the way you always, Americans always think, well, you know, you're in a conflict, we can't abandon our president now.
Yes, I read the newsletter, and that is true.
And you didn't send an edit.
No, I'm sorry.
I was out doing important things.
There was nothing to edit.
It was fine.
I didn't see any mistakes.
But I'm sorry.
You're right.
I got distracted and that was it.
I was prepping for the show.
That is certainly a playbook American presidents have used, but he is being taken down.
He's being taken down by the Democrat Party.
He's a marked man.
There's no way, and they're just enlisting the Republicans now.
What is wrong with this?
What's wrong with this clip now?
Why won't this play?
Let me see.
I want to mention something.
I did get a note from one of our producers who's in the army who said that he's over there.
And he says the reporting about soldiers in Ukraine already is not being handled at all by the mainstream media.
And I'm telling you, something's up.
Hold on a second.
I have it here.
Oh, this is really weird.
This whole Grassley thing.
I wonder what happened to this clip.
You've heard about this?
Here, let's see if I play it this way.
Maybe this will work, let me see.
Listen to this.
I don't know why it's not playing in my regular system.
Here we go.
Senator, I know you've also just issued a statement on you as well as your colleague James Comer demanding the FBI record on alleging this criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden.
This congressional subpoena, you say, seeks a specific FBI document.
Senator, thank you for jumping on with us.
What can you tell us?
Well, I will only add to what you say that this comes from credible and unclassified whistleblower disclosures of this possible criminal activity when Biden was vice president.
And we want this information.
And there's a subpoena going to be issued now.
And it really boils down to my traditional oversight of government.
Particularly see the executive branches doing the work that they're supposed to be doing.
So the Justice Department, the FBI needs to come clean to the American people what they did with the document because we know the document exists from very credible whistleblower information that we got.
uh...
we can we really need to know what steps to the justice department and f_b_i_ take to investigate and to vet the document to determine if it's accurate or not and did the justice department the f_b_i_ follow normal investigating procedures or did they let political calculations interfere so it's a double whammy now which is of course what obama does
Obama is run by the CIA, so we blame the FBI and we get Biden out for an actual crime.
Not something his kid did.
No, for an actual crime on U.S.
soil.
This is a setup.
And you called the takedown of Biden.
Now you're waffling.
Then he's fighting back, and he's going to fight back by sending troops to Ukraine.
That's a way he's going to fight back.
He knows what's going on.
Well, yeah, okay.
Well, but the military-industrial complex, they don't want any part of it.
They're just looking at their bank accounts.
They're all in Taiwan with the ladies of the night.
Well, that's more money.
It's just more money.
And the F-16s, you know, who gives a shit?
Those things, you gotta phase those things out and start selling the expensive F-35s.
The dog that don't fly.
It flies.
Meanwhile, while all this is going down, in 2023, it's unbelievable, but there's still a whole country that will stop dead in its tracks to watch an old dude with an old bag get in a golden coach.
And be turned into the king!
Anti-monarchy protesters in the UK are under close watch ahead of the coronation.
The British Home Office has issued a warning letter saying planned peaceful protests on Coronation Day will be firmly blocked.
I love planned peaceful protests.
In the US those are cool even during COVID.
There they will be blocked.
Strong measures are in place to prevent any disruptive activity.
A new law will enable 12 months imprisonment for protesters, blocking roads, airports and railways.
A letter from the Home Office's Police Powers Unit says the law has been brought to prevent disruption at major sporting and cultural events, blocking protests of the kind climate activists have unleashed.
The law also lays down six months in jail and at five for protesters locking onto other objects, including buildings, as a mark of protest.
This is great!
Wait, climate activists?
Oh yeah, the climate activists, even though he's the climate guy.
He is like a climate nutball.
They should be pleased as punch that this guy's getting in.
No, but that's because they're bull.
They're bull!
By the way, the members of the public have been invited to swear their allegiance to the King.
They have- yeah, here it is.
People around the UK and abroad will be invited to say the words, I swear I will pay true allegiance to your majesty and your heirs and successors according to the law, so help me God.
Locking onto other objects, including buildings, as a mark of protest.
It gives police powers to stop and search protesters if they suspect they are planning to cause chaos.
Anti-monarchy group Republic described the letter as very odd.
The group has been planning protests on Coronation Day.
Their banner is to read, Not My King.
Reports say other units like Climate Group Extinction Rebellion have been sent similar letters.
Many groups have hit out at what they call sudden action by the Home Office.
They call it a restriction of freedom of speech and right to a peaceful and legitimate protest.
Well of course, the UK is a speech-free zone, man.
As in you can't use any.
Yeah, go to the corner, Speaker's Corner.
Remember I went there when Tina and I were in the UK?
There was nobody there.
I've been there a number of times.
I stay at a place that's nearby when I'm in London.
But we were there more recent than you.
Probably.
Yeah.
There's no one there.
There's never been anybody there.
First time I was in there in London was in 1973 and there was nobody there.
I was there in 19...
See, I was 15, so what would that make me?
76?
My dad took me, and we went to Speaker's Corner...
I was very impressed.
And there was, you know, one or two guys standing on the corner there talking smack.
Usually socialist.
Yeah.
But, you know, you can't say anything on social media.
You can't do anything there.
Anything!
And now it's like, oh, you want a peaceful protest?
No.
No.
Six months in jail.
No.
Peaceful protest?
No.
No peaceful protest for you.
Now, if we're going to talk about this topic, and I want to mention here that I've been listening to some more podcasts than usual.
Yeah.
They spend hours on one topic.
The Royals?
We're on, no, any one topic.
Yeah.
We've already on our fourth topic here.
Yes.
So let's go to... So now I've got NPR's decided to become the front man and promoter of Camilla.
Really?
Really?
The horse face?
Do you want to listen to a report that is so disgusting?
It's like a hagiography just over the air of Camilla And the whole setup, the whole thing, to me it's remarkable.
Yes, I do, of course.
It feels to me like this is very wrong.
Certainly the NPR listening audience, I believe that the NPR audience is Lady Di fans.
And if you're a Lady Diana fan, which I would say, I was a fan, I mean, I disagree with the whole story.
You know, poor princess, now she was a media whore and she liked it and that eventually got her killed.
But, you know, how she was treated versus Camilla?
Camilla is just, she is Beelzebub compared to Lady Di.
Well, we're gonna hear the update on this because we have one of the key experts in pushing narratives coming on, but let's go with Camilla1NPR.
Over the past several decades, the one-time Camilla Parker Bowles has been known as many things.
By the way, I think we should all go by our full middle names.
Adam Clark Curry and John Charles Dvorak and Camilla Parker Bowles.
Chief of the Rakish Brigadier, Andrew Parker Bowles.
Girlfriend of the heir to the throne, but most of all, the other woman in what turned out to be the not-so-fairytale marriage of Charles and Diana.
And this Saturday, she will officially have a new title, Queen.
Tina Brown wrote The Palace Papers inside the House of Windsor and she's on the line to talk with us about Camilla's winding journey.
Tina, welcome back to the show.
Thank you so much.
For Americans who are not obsessed with the royals and who might know Camilla mainly for her role in the breakup of King Charles' then Prince Charles' first marriage, remind us of her background separate from Charles.
This is so not left, this obsessed, obsessed, obsessed with the Queen, obsessed with the Royals, obsessed.
It's something that all American women, for some reason, get a day off from being political and they can all be obsessed.
Oh, I love the hat.
I love the coach.
It's a fairy tale.
It's weird.
Now this particular presentation I find to be completely offensive and they bring in Tina Brown who is famous and she's like I don't know if she's a royal watcher a royal watcher well I mean she's the one who started Vanity Fair she's a very famous editor and you bring her in to do a hatchet job of some sort or some professional Not a hit job in this case, but a flattery job.
And so we're going to be re-educated about the greatness of Camilla.
So you're way off with that analysis of yours.
That's old.
That's the old analysis.
The new analysis is the new her.
I want to ask you something.
Well, of course, we have a special relationship between the US and the UK.
So every person who has authority to speak of the Royals has to have like, had to be a friend of someone or been at parties.
Do we know what her connection was?
What Tina Brown's connection was to the Royals?
If you go to a wiki page and start looking at it, you'll see there's some deep connection.
James Mann or something, who knows?
Let's go to part two of these clips.
Camilla comes from a very upper-class, squire-olky kind of a background.
Her father was a major, very, very extremely well-regarded veteran hero, actually, in the Second World War.
Her mother was an aristocrat, so she always was raised in the extremely sort of aristocratic milieu of a country debutante, if you like.
in uh on the sussex town so her whole her circle was always extremely upper class bumping up against royals in every conceivable shape and form i've always thought of charles as sort of a stiff kind of awkward person although he's grown into his role over the years what is her reputation what does this npr lady know he was i thought he was always a little bit stiff but No, this is like scripted.
This is so scripted.
It's almost like an ad for one of those phony baloney ads.
It's almost like an advertisement.
Is she referring to... A native ad.
Is she referring to the time when we had the leaked phone call of Prince Charles saying to Camilla, I wish it was your tampon?
Is that what she means, really?
That he kind of grew into his role?
Either will shape and form.
I've always thought of Charles as sort of a stiff, kind of awkward person, although he's grown into his role over the years.
What is her reputation, or the public sense of her as a person?
Listen to this!
Always wildly attractive.
Tremendously earthy, fun.
Earthy!
Earthy!
Absolute catnip to men at all times.
You know, Camilla really was.
And indeed, her brother and sister were very appealing, too.
They were known as the sexy Shands, because the Shand family, she was, you know, Camilla Shand.
You know, they were a very appealing country family, always the sort of toast of every debutante party and so on.
So she was a very appealing woman and she could have really married anyone.
She was definitely extremely popular on the sort of, you know, the single woman circuit.
Well, you say appealing, but...
Who else did she date on the single woman circuit?
Who else?
They go, they present this and then of course her next commentary is kind of again, is different.
She presents her as like some hottie back in the day and the toast of the town and then you know her and her siblings and so she's She's developing this narrative that is just, it's hard to believe.
Let me finish this clip.
There's 22 seconds left.
Hold on.
Definitely extremely popular on the sort of, you know, the single woman circuit.
Well, you say appealing, but there was a point where she was one of the most hated women in Britain.
I believe the year after she married Charles, which was 2005, a poll for the Times of London found only 21% of the British public would be happy to have her as Queen.
But last year, just a few days after Queen Elizabeth died, a different poll showed that 53% of the British public thought she'd do a good job in her new role.
How did she manage that turnaround?
I don't see any dating history of her on the Wikipedia.
But she did launch the Big Bone Walk campaign.
Whatever that is.
Wow.
Okay, so that was clip one.
Yeah, clip two.
We're at three.
Okay, well let's go with clip three because now we get the WTF clip.
Well, first of all, you know, that's the reason she was so unpopular was really because she was always seen through the prism of being, you know, the usurper of the adored Princess Diana.
So, you know, Diana used to call her the Rottweiler.
And, you know, she was not a glamour girl, Camilla, at any point.
I mean, part of her appeal is that this is a woman who likes to wear... Wait, I thought she was the hottie, the hottie on the... She said...
Right there that she was never the glamour girl at any point.
She's the Yoko of the Royals, man.
Come on.
Wait a minute.
So just the clip before this, she's going on about she was a hottie and she was the queen of the debutante scene.
Couldn't have married anybody.
Blah, blah, blah.
And now she's never been anything but a Rottweiler or whatever that was.
I can't believe we're doing a whole segment on this.
This is just the construction of NPR.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Anyway, onward.
You know what?
Elon Musk is right.
They don't deserve to have the NPR on Twitter.
I'm in total agreement.
And, you know, she was not a glamour girl, Camilla, at any point.
I mean, part of her appeal is that this is a woman who likes to wear comfortable shoes that, you know, because she doesn't like to get bun in.
Comfortable shoes because she doesn't like to get bun.
That's hot on the dating scene.
This is a great quote.
She wears comfortable shoes because she doesn't like to get bunions.
I'm telling you, that's literally in a world where women wear comfortable shoes.
Yes, it's horrible.
...shoes that, you know, because she doesn't like to get bunions.
You know, she has gardener's hands in the sense that, you know, rather... GARDENER'S HANDS!
That's... Oh my God, I met this chick.
She's so hot.
She's wearing Crocs and she's got bunions.
And she's got gardener hands, man.
All like crooked and crap.
Oh, I can't wait to bag her.
You know, she has gardener's hands in the sense that, you know, rather dirty fingernails from her plunging into amongst the, you know, the greenery.
A real kind of dog walker covered in dog hairs.
You know, she's not a glamour woman.
All right.
You know, just because, I don't know why, I have to give this to him just right now.
The Clip of the Day!
That is... Wow!
Wow!
NPR!
I'd love to get Clip of the Day after your complaining.
This was... This is horrible!
Tina Brown... Wow.
All I can say is wow.
I've said it too many times already.
Man.
It's unbelievable.
I know.
This is... So here we go with the UGG clip.
This is clip four.
And unfortunately for her, you know, people knew nothing really about her because she was so very, very private.
Her friends knew she was this extraordinarily attractive and appealing woman.
But, you know, in terms of the public feeling about her, they saw her through Diana's eyes, which was usurper.
And she had to have that stigma.
And the press went after her with such viciousness.
I mean, the really appalling sexist comments about Camilla.
I mean, they used to call her, you know, old bag, old trout, you know.
I have never heard old trout.
I think that's a winner.
Show title.
I mean, they're really appalling sexist comments about Camilla.
I mean, they used to call her, you know, old bag, old trout.
What's worse?
I mean, she called her a lady with gardener hands, a dog lady.
How can old trout be bad?
This is NPR, man.
Crazy.
Press went after her with such viciousness.
I mean, the really appalling sexist comments about Camilla.
I mean, they used to call her, you know, Old Bag, Old Trout.
You know, I mean, there was even a dish named after her as Haddock Parker Bowls.
I mean, just the rudest thing.
And to the point that she used to joke to Charles and sign her letters to him.
Your devoted old bag, Camilla.
You know, because she'd been called it so often.
Sounds like she was a good sport about the abuse.
Yes.
She had a great sense of humor.
That was part of her strength.
So do you think over time the public has forgiven her?
And it thinks, look, this is a legitimate relationship.
It's a legitimate love between these two.
And with time, time healed how the public felt about her.
Well, yes, because she's now been a working royal for 20 years, actually, really, or nearly 20 years, I mean, as wife of Charles.
There has been an acceptance.
I mean, in some ways, because Charles now becomes king so late, and she's a woman of 75, after all, she's now become sort of the nation's grandmother, and it's sort of on her way to becoming sort of a national treasure.
So, getting the reward, as it were, so late has really been beneficial to her because earlier, I don't think the public would have accepted it, but they're beginning to see that she's a very hard-working, very gracious, humorous, unpretentious woman, actually, who has definitely improved Charles' life and has really transformed him into being an unapologetically happy man.
Oh, he looks so happy, doesn't he?
Now, yeah.
NPR should be ashamed of themselves.
Don't donate to NPR.
No, give us the money.
Yeah, really.
So I get this last clip and I guess I keep listening to this thinking, there's got to be something, someone, some talent, some, what happened here?
Why am I listening to Tina Brown doing schtick?
And then also trying to be so complimentary in some sort of a propagandistic way.
There must be a rationale.
There must be something.
Here it comes in clip five.
See if you can find it.
In Prince Harry's very popular recent memoir, he was very critical of her.
And I suppose like any blended family, let's call it, the Windsors have some complicated relationships.
Is that a racist comment?
Blended family?
Is that because Harry's wife is black?
Oh, I did not catch that.
Is that like people of color?
Is that what they mean?
Blended?
Interesting.
Good catch.
Let's just call it blended.
Racist!
In Prince Harry's very popular recent memoir, he was very critical of her.
And I suppose like any blended family, let's call it, the Windsors have some complicated relationships to navigate.
But he accused her of feeding the press negative stories about him so she could get better press.
Is that likely to contaminate how Brits feel about her?
Well, I think that there was a period when Charles, to really rehabilitate both his own image and that of Camilla after the death of Diana, hired a quite resourceful and, shall we say, sophisticated press secretary who was all about making her reputation better and making Charles's reputation better.
Harry felt strongly that he and William were sometimes thrown under the bus for the sake of their father and for Camilla's PR.
You know, I think that Harry also does very much see that through the furious, you know, lens of being the son of, you know, the beloved Diana, his wonderful mother, The only real misery in her life was this figure, Camilla.
So it's not really unlikely that Harry would feel so strongly about it because all his life he was raised to think of her as the enemy.
The PR woman.
The talented PR woman is still working for them.
And Tina Brown was... I guess she had to mention it.
Friends with her.
She's friends.
And so she mentioned it, and the next thing I'm thinking, oh, this whole thing is a setup.
The PR woman arranged it.
This is just a hagiography kind of thing.
You probably paid Tina straight from the royal budget.
Who knows?
This is a scam.
And I think NPR jumped on it because they want some of that Harry and Meghan juice.
You know, because that's been very successful.
It's been very profitable.
Their Netflix show has been, you know, one of the top viewed Netflix shows ever.
Yeah.
So they're just going for some cheap-ass ratings with a cheap couple and a cheap-ass coach.
It's just cheap-ass.
It's cheap-ass.
It's just cheap-ass.
One big cheap-ass thing.
All right, I've got to lighten the mood here for a second.
I need to tell you a little story.
I thought that was pretty light.
I know, but I'm going to go light into heavier stuff, but through a more modern conflict.
So the old rockers are still out and about.
And Gene Simmons, I don't know what he's doing, but he was like, hey, if you don't get the COVID shot, you should die.
So Gene Simmons is a dick.
But Paul Stanley of Kiss, he's a guitar player.
He You know, did something very controversial.
Now these guys are all, I don't know, Stanley's got to be almost 70.
These guys are all up there.
But I know them all.
They're interesting dudes, but you know, they're still playing the, you know, the Connecticut Fair or whatever.
Kiss probably can still draw big audiences.
And he posted about trans-Maoism.
Or as we call it, that's what we call it, but in general it's about transgender children.
You know, about gender-affirming care.
We've talked about this.
He says, my thoughts on what I'm seeing.
There's a big difference between teaching acceptance and normalizing and even encouraging participation in a lifestyle that confuses young children into questioning their sexual identification as though some sort of game and then the parents in some cases allow it.
There are individuals who, as adults, may decide reassignment is their needed choice.
But turning this into a game, or parents normalizing it as some sort of natural alternative, or believing that because a little boy likes to play dress-up in his sister's clothes, or a girl and her brothers, we should lead them steps further down a path that's far from the innocence of what they are doing.
With many children who have no real sense of sexuality or sexual experience caught up in the fun.
of using pronouns and saying what they identify as.
Some adults mistakenly confuse teaching acceptance with normalizing and encouraging a situation that has been a struggle for those truly affected and have turned into a sad and dangerous fad.
Well, slow clap, Tiffany pen tap for Paul Stanley!
This is good, right?
So, yes, okay, Paul.
You know, of course, you know, and that's just a tweet now.
Oh, the world comes to an end.
Oh boy, Paul Stanley, what does he say?
Now, parallel to this, a few weeks ago, I didn't mention on the show because Dee Snider is a drip.
Dee Snider is the lead singer of Twisted Sister.
They pretty much only had one hit, We're Not Gonna Take It.
And I'm sure that he wrote it.
I don't know who else, I should have checked that, who else wrote the song.
But when you have a song like that, you can, you know, you get your royalties and, you know, the song is played over and over and over again.
It's played in venues, it's played all over the world, it's played as an anthem for all kinds of stuff.
It's one of those hits that you could, it's like writing White Christmas almost.
You know, the money just always comes in, and you can always dress up with the eye makeup, get your glam on, get your high heels on, because that's what Twisted Sister was, you know, the name Twisted Sister.
And you can always just do gigs.
All you have to do is have five songs, and you do We're Not Gonna Take It three times.
And that's our show.
Good night, Connecticut.
And I'm happy.
Now, you will remember.
This must have been 2010, 2011, maybe, yeah.
Howard Stern interviewed me for Sirius XM, and I made a pitch to Howard Stern.
I said, hey, you know, I'm authorized, which I wasn't, but we knew we could get the money.
I said, but I'm authorized to offer you, Howard Stern, $100 million to leave Sirius.
I think his contract was up for renegotiation.
To leave SiriusXM, come over to PodShow and we'll make a podcasting star out of you.
You remember this?
I do remember this.
In fact, we had a big argument after this interview because you said it was a horrible interview.
Oh my, we had a real argument.
Well, yeah, you got all bent out of shape with my commentary.
You said that it was a horrible interview and I did not mention No Agenda once and I was bad.
Well, to me, not mentioning No Agenda is a horrible interview, period.
Right, but it was the first moment that you really hurt me, and then I said some really hurtful things to you, and it was not a great moment for Adam.
But also, you were a total dick.
But I am a total dick.
That's just what I realized.
That was the moment that I'm like, oh, okay.
No, but go on.
No, but go ahead, Kara.
Okay, Kara.
Tina's even doing this now.
Anyway, so like a week later, Dee Snider calls me.
Well, you know, it's great.
I hear John with Howard and Howard and the Howard.
And so this podcasting like, oh, cool.
Tell me about it.
And so I say, oh, yeah, man, you know, we have this value for value model.
Yeah.
But what about the money?
Can you pay me to do a podcast?
I'm a great podcaster.
I can be really good.
When I'm on Howard, I'm killing it.
I always kill it.
And who is this?
Dee Snider from Twisted Sister.
The lead guy, the glam guy, the, you know, the glamour guy.
Yeah.
And he's calling me, and he's like, he just, he smells money.
He's a money whore.
Yeah, man.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm always on Howard.
I kill with him.
I can do a better job than Howard.
I can do a great show better than Howard.
I'm Howard, Howard, Howard, Howard.
I'm always on Howard.
Howard loves me.
I'm great.
I said, no, well, you know, this is for Howard the money.
You're not Howard.
Oh man, come on, come on!
He's not Howard.
You're not Howard.
That's what I said.
Yeah, well that's what you... yeah, well, it's like... Well, anyway, I was like, Dee Snider is a dick, is what I thought.
That's what I recall from this conversation.
What a dick.
So a few weeks ago, when more of the, oh here comes a euphemism, well not even a euphemism, anti-trans legislation!
Meaning Tennessee doesn't want kids to be at drag shows in public places.
You know, minors.
No, it seems like a normal idea, but that is now anti-trans legislation!
They want to get rid of us!
They want to wipe us from the earth like the Jews!
They're doing the same thing to us they did to the gays!
This is all over the news.
And he comes out and he says, You know, this is crazy, this anti-trans legislation, because I can't even do my show in Tennessee because it could be seen as a drag show.
Because, you know, he dresses up, puts on the purple eyeshadow, fingernails painted, he's got the high heels on.
You know, he has one song.
It's like watching a freak show.
It's like, okay.
So he's trying to, he's trying to jump.
Cause this is what he is.
Hey man, I'm as good as Howard.
Hey man, I'm as good as all the trend shows.
I can be great at a drag show.
I'm great.
God.
You don't like this guy?
No, I don't.
But you understand what he's doing is he's trying to set himself up with a popular, with a popular movement.
He's jumping on the bandwagon.
It's called bandwagon.
Now remember, he has a... And the other guy that you mentioned earlier that had the commentary on Twitter, when he finished it off by saying it's a fad, this fad thing.
And I think that's correct.
I think this is a fad and it'll come and go.
It'll go eventually.
Which is exactly why a Dee Snider jumps on the fad.
He's like, oh, oh, here's a fad I can get in on.
By the way, I've got a great song for the trans community.
We're not gonna take it!
And I would like to say, one of the best glam rock songs ever.
No doubt about it.
Great song.
What is it now?
40 years of children have used this as their rebellion song.
Nothing wrong with that.
But that's what you got, bro.
That's all you got.
And now you're jumping on the trans fad bandwagon.
But then, all the kids, all the rock guys are going, Hey!
Hey!
Dee Snider.
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, we're not on board with that.
We're gonna Bud Light your ass, man.
We don't like this.
No, no.
You just, you can have that song.
We'll go, we'll rock out to you.
But we don't, we're not on board with the trans stuff.
Not the way it's being portrayed.
So he then, idiot, Oh, I've got to adjust everything.
What am I going to do?
So he then tweets something to Paul Stanley.
And this is now the subject of some great controversy.
This is local news from San Francisco.
San Francisco Pride is distancing itself from Twisted Sister's Dee Snider after the singer defended anti-trans tweets made by former Kiss singer Paul Stanley.
I love that this report, by the way, is going to be my evergreen.
Nothing like this effeminate gay guy doing this report about these two old rock guys.
And this is, this is peak trans bullshit.
This is a bit confusing, but let me start with Stanley's tweet, which was sent on Sunday.
And in a nutshell, it criticizes parents who accept their children who are questioning their gender identities.
So, here's what happened with Snyder.
Snyder saw this tweet, retweeted it, and added this.
So, are you still with me?
You know what?
There was a time where I felt pretty, too.
Glad my parents didn't jump to any rash conclusions.
Well said, Paul Stanley.
So, are you still with me?
You still with me, what's going on here in this saga?
Well, it's getting funny.
So, so now...
So now Pride San Francisco is mad.
They're mad.
And there's a reason for it.
It was all secret.
We didn't know this was happening behind the scenes.
But in Dee Snider's infinite wisdom and his never-ending quest to jump on the latest fad, whether it's podcasting or pro-trans or anti-trans, he now screwed up so bad that the trans Pride community is mad.
And here's where Pride comes into this conversation.
Pride have been set to announce Twisted Sister's song, We're Not Gonna Take It, as the official anthem of Pride 2023.
So this is money in the bank for D. To have the whole Pride community adopting We're Not Gonna Take It, this would blow life into that song.
This is another $100,000 a year.
Easy.
Easy!
Because he wrote it.
He owns it.
This is his moneymaker.
Shake that moneymaker!
But he pissed off the wrong people.
Oh, the wrong people.
Joining us now with the latest on this saga is Suzanne Ford, the executive director of SF Pride.
Hi, Suzanne.
Are you ready for Suzanne?
Uh, no.
Good morning, Reggie.
So, full disclosure here.
You were ready to roll out with Dee Snider interviews with the media.
It was under embargo, but in a few days you were going to announce this partnership with Dee Snider and with this song.
So what was your reaction when you saw this tweet?
I'm just going to be brutally honest here, just because you don't have video.
He may have transitioned fully, but this is a dude.
Sharon, Rachel, whatever his name is.
And the mannerisms, it's a dude.
He could be in Twisted Sister.
So the whole thing is just blowing my mind now.
But the business of it is, this really has... Dee Snider has screwed himself so badly with this.
It made me sick.
I mean, we were just I mean, we were on the cusp of making this announcement.
Dee Snider was going to appear on the main stage at SF Pride and he was going to be in the in the parade as a celebrity grand marshal.
And of course, we cannot we cannot stand by his statements.
We have to stand up and say that was wrong and we can't.
We had to end our association with him.
How did this begin?
Did Dee Snider approach you and Pride and offer the song?
Well, we'd been looking for a way to stand up to all this hate out in the country.
The anti-trans legislation, the anti-queer legislation, and... Anti-queer legislation?
This is new.
What specific anti-queer legislation?
I don't know.
I don't even know what it is.
We can't even define queer.
Yeah, what is it?
I don't know.
Well, we'd been looking for a way to stand up to all this hate out in the country, the anti-trans legislation, the anti-queer legislation.
And we were looking for a slogan.
And our PR team, I said, this is what we need to say.
And they said, well, why don't we just say we're not going to take it?
And that started the process.
And we did reach out to their people.
And D was great.
He called me and said, hey, you can use this song.
That's what this song should stand for.
And then, of course, he preempted that with his statements supporting Paul Stanley.
Have you talked to Dee since this tweet came out?
I did.
I had a painful discussion with him yesterday.
Painful!
I think he realizes that he was wrong.
He thought he was taking a moderate stance.
When it comes to self-identification for trans people, there's no moderate stance.
We need to believe our trans kids when they tell us about their gender.
Okay, there it is.
We need to believe our trans kids when they tell us about our gender.
Okay, let's hear from one of the trans kids, Katie Lennon.
And Katie Lennon tells her story.
Just like many children and teens today, I identified myself as transgender for years.
And when I started to feel confused and ashamed about my developing body, I asked everyone in my life to call me by a new name and use male pronouns to refer to me.
So in other words, I went through a social transition from female to male.
Everyone in my life immediately affirmed my new identity, either out of full support for it or just to stay neutral and not cause any issues.
But the constant affirmation, both active and passive, solidified me in my transgender identity.
No one meant to lock me into an identity that would later leave me broken or shamed and more confused than before.
They were really all just being nice.
But the social transition eventually wasn't enough, and I soon felt I needed to take testosterone.
And when that wasn't enough, I had a double mastectomy.
And when that still wasn't enough, I had a total hysterectomy, including the removal of my uterus, cervix, fallopian tubes, and both ovaries.
There's no point of contentment during a gender transition.
We get fleeting moments of euphoria, but ultimately one step leads straight into the next.
And I thought that in the end I could really become a man, but all I became was a mutilated and abused version of my old self.
Social transition is a big deal, and we're lying when we say that any of this is reversible.
This is a big decision with lifelong consequences, and New Hampshire doesn't even require that parents be involved.
If the roles of mother and father don't include authority over the emotional, social, and physical future of their children, the roles no longer mean anything.
Like me, transgender-identifying youth have a high risk for depression.
The Trevor Project, which is an LGBT advocacy group, reports that 45% of LGBT teens have seriously considered attempting suicide in the past year.
More than half of that number is transgender-identifying youth.
Teachers and school administrators are mandated reporters, and if a child is suspected to be four times more likely to attempt suicide than the other students his age, his parents have a right to know.
So this is all coming from the schools, we've discussed this, and there's a slogan that I learned the other day, win the campus, win the world.
That's what's going on here.
And even Bill Maher is now seeing this for what it is, what we identified correctly when we first went down this road of what is happening with transgender Activism and removal of parents' rights, allowing children to be literally captured.
I have just story after story.
Captured by the state.
Captured by, I'll read a little bit of this, one of our producers.
He's from Colorado.
I think you probably saw this note as well.
I've been below the radar for the past three plus years because I've been living the COVID trans Maoist nightmare with my daughter.
I don't even know where to start.
And if I did, my note would be too long for you to even read and you guys know how much I can write.
In my efforts to save my daughter and kids like her, I've been exposed to human trafficking, illegal drug dealers, mental health institutions, social services, law enforcement, district attorneys, politicians, all the way to governors, school administrators, mental health unprofessionals, and doctors and psychiatrists.
I can truly say all these groups, with the exception of law enforcement, are in on the co-opting our kids from their parents.
Some are useful idiots for the politicians and bureaucrats pushing their Maoist agenda, but it's the ones that are aware of what they are doing that are truly despicable.
So I'm gonna go down his quick list here that explains the process that happened to his daughter who he was able to save.
But it's a horrible story.
I put it all in the show notes.
I've taken out everybody's names in these notes.
Here was the process.
That he calls legalizing state-sponsored genital mutilation.
1.
Hire radical teachers for indoctrination.
2.
Reduce age of consent for medical care, like abortions, to 15 without parental consent.
3.
Allow children to consent for medical care at 12 without parent knowledge or consent.
Passed laws requiring state employees, including teachers, to use any bizarre pronoun.
Offer medical and mental health care in schools without parental consent.
Governor encourages kids to inject mRNA poison in their bodies without parental consent.
Require mental health assessment for kids 12 and older, overriding parental objections and not informing parents of any care.
After-birth abortions for kids as young as 12 without parental consent also come to Colorado and will abort your baby.
Genital mutilation and puberty blockers for kids without parental consent in violation of a UN resolution.
Exposing yourself to a minor is now just a ticket.
Not passed yet is lowering the age of consent for sexual contact to 11 including with adults.
Yes, pedophilia.
He goes on and on and on and on and he saved his daughter but it's a hell It's a harrowing, harrowing story, and I'm just getting, again, email after email from parents in no agenda nation who have been exposed to this and are trying to protect their kids.
So what is it on one hand?
Yes, it is exactly what we've discussed that Bill Maher said, which is Maoism.
Yesterday I asked ChatGPT, are there any similarities between today's woke revolution and Chairman Mao's cultural revolution of the 1960s?
And it wrote back, how long do you have?
Because, again, in China, we saw how a revolutionary thought he could do a page one rewrite of humans.
Mao ordered his citizens to throw off the four olds.
Old thinking, old culture, old customs, and old habits.
So, um, your whole life went in the garbage overnight.
No biggie.
And those who resisted were attacked by an army of purifiers called the Red Guard, who went around the country putting dunce caps on people.
Yeah, who didn't take to being a new kind of mortal being.
A lot of pointing and shaming went on.
Oh, and about a million dead.
And the only way to survive was to plead insanity for the crime of being insufficiently radical, then apologize and thank the state, and of course submit to re-education.
Or as we call it here in America, freshman orientation.
So even Bill Maher sees what's going on.
And yes, it is to a great degree political, as our parent there points out.
That the politicians, anything, anything to make the Republicans look the worst.
Anything.
Call them Christian, what is it?
Christian radicals.
No, not radicals.
No, it was not.
Fascists, Christian fascists, you know, anti-trans legislation.
They hate children because this is gender-affirming care.
We just heard from that young girl what gender-affirming care is, but now we go to Dr. Meg Meeker's podcast.
Just one clip from her.
And she is talking to Irene Erickson, and this is, she asked the question, which I think is a pretty good one, why is this really happening in America?
As we know, this is being stopped in other countries, specifically the countries where it started, which was the Netherlands, but Sweden, France, the UK.
So what is going on?
Why is this happening to this degree in the United States?
Honestly and truly, I've been practicing for 30 some years and I think maybe in 25 years I saw one genuine transgender child.
But something happened in the U.S.
and there was an explosion and we'll talk about that a little bit later.
Why does the U.S.
approach it differently than other countries?
That's a great question.
It may actually be the only great question.
It's political, is my observation.
It's not based on the science.
In fact, the United Kingdom had the largest pediatric gender clinic in the world, the Tavistock Clinic.
And they commissioned an independent review of the research evidence about this kind of protocol that I just described and what were the effects and what was the evidence, how good was the research evidence in terms of quality.
And based on their review, just in the last two months, they have done a 180 degree turnaround
They've closed that clinic and they have said we do not recommend, this is the National Health Service in Great Britain, we do not recommend social transition for children and we are not going to prescribe puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones or surgery for minors unless they are part of a study we have approved that is set up to evaluate the effects.
And this same kind of a cautionary approach is seen in Sweden.
Just to quote you what the Swedish National Board of Health says, for adolescents, the risks of puberty-suppressing treatment and gender-affirming hormonal treatments currently outweigh the possible benefits based on continued lack of reliable scientific evidence concerning the efficacy and the safety of both treatments.
So the U.S.
is really out of step now with what's happening internationally and, you know, it does beg the question of why.
So she says it's political, and of course it is, but it's the schools where this is all starting.
And I took a deep dive because I wanted to know about these studies because everywhere I read from the New York Times, you know, gender affirming medical care has been proven, proven To be very beneficial.
So I found an article from Psychology Today because it is the therapists.
It's the therapists who are reeling these children in.
They don't care.
Therapists.
And this is it, this is from the New York Times, pointed to from the New York Times as the evidence for trans youth gender-affirming medical care.
Research suggests gender-affirming medical care results in better mental health.
16 studies to date have been examined, examining the impact of gender-affirming medical care for transgender youth.
Existing evidence suggests That gender-affirming medical care results in favorable mental health outcomes.
All, all major medical organizations oppose legislation that would ban gender-affirming medical care for transgender adolescents.
John, every single one of these studies is from 2020.
Every single one.
And all of them with 55 people, 60 people.
They're all from 2020, all during the lockdown.
Not a single one has been studied anything earlier than 2020.
And with this, they say, oh, well, but you know, that's enough.
One will notice, this article says, there have not been any randomized controlled trials.
Oh!
But it still sounds like it's a valid trial.
There's a general consensus in the field that such a trial would be unethical given the body of literature we have so far indicating that those in the control group would be likely to suffer adverse mental health outcomes compared to those randomized to the treatment groups.
For this reason, it appears that no institutional review board would approve a randomized controlled trial at this time under the principle of equipoise to which some bioethicists refer.
I don't know what that all means, but it seems to me like these trials are bull.
In summary... Well, you'd have to look at the trials and who paid for them to get a real handle on it, I believe.
Yeah.
Yes.
I did not go that deep, but if you look at the synopsis here, a lot of them are Dutch.
Puberty suppression, adolescence with gender identity disorder, a prospect follow-up study, Journal of Sexual Medicine.
Okay.
I don't know what that is.
Young adult psychological outcome after puberty suppression and gender reassignment.
Pediatrics.
Psychological support, puberty suppression, psychosocial functioning in adolescents.
It's all Journal of Sexual Medicine.
It's all in the exact same journal?
There's no outside journals?
Here's the Nordic Journal of Psychiatry.
It's all psychological.
There doesn't seem to even be medical trials.
It's all about the psychology.
But that's what the New York Times points to as proof that this stuff works and it's great.
So I'm very, very skeptical, particularly because there have been people transitioning and having what used to be called a sex change operation for, you know, decades.
But no, none of that seems to be very important.
And then we have the media.
We have the media.
And I played, I got a great deconstruction from one of our producers.
I want to play this Kara Swisher clip again because, you know, she's a lesbian.
So, you know, she's an expert on all things.
And, of course, she takes us all to the political realm as well.
I'm just going to replay this from the last show.
And the other thing is that he just, I think, underestimated.
Florida has a really robust and wonderful gay community.
And they drive a lot of business.
There's, I mean, there's whole parts.
I've spent a lot of time in Key West and the gay community is thriving there.
And I just can't believe at some point the demo and democracy does kick in here.
One would assume, but I'm thinking of the Weimar Republic where it was a huge Berlin gay community and then they killed them.
So, you know, I think it can go a lot of terrible ways, but I would agree.
This is dumb.
This is so... That escalated fast.
I'm sorry, but haven't you seen Cabaret?
Haven't you seen Cabaret Berlin Stories?
Yeah, you're right.
People think it couldn't happen here.
It can.
I agree.
They can come at you, but I do not think that that's where the country is in a different way.
Obviously, we have a much more vibrant democracy, a much more diverse democracy than they had in Weimar Republic, and they had all kinds of economic issues post-war, all kinds of differences.
But they can come at you.
When I told you they were going to come at 12th graders, you said, no, they're not.
It's young kids.
And I was like, no, they're not.
It's everybody.
They're trying to win what they lost back.
So our producer sends me this short note which I wanted to share because I think he did a much better job than we did on deconstructing what this woman said.
I'm listening to the podcast, just heard the Swisher-Galloway clip, and the psychology of it disturbed me.
First of all, she mentioned the gay community in Weimar Germany was thriving, and then they killed them.
This is incorrect.
The Republic had laws against homosexuality, but they were rarely enforced, hence the thriving community.
It was the Nazis who killed the gays shortly after their rise to power, not the Weimar Republic.
So the comparison to Florida is actually very apt, since the thriving community there is not in danger from Florida, but from the people trying to subvert Florida.
Moreover, she then went on to describe her political opponents by saying, they never go away, they're like mold, these people.
That is exactly the way Hitler talked about his victims.
In his books and his speeches, he always referred to them as an infection or infestation that needed to be cleansed.
This woman is deeply disturbed and should be surrounded by trained professionals with butterfly nets before her career in art fails.
A John C. DeVore protégé, I might add.
You keep blaming me for everything.
So, yes.
Yeah, good points.
It's a...
That's a good analysis.
I agree with it.
Then I have just a few more follow-ups here because, you know, as we pointed out, this also really does come from during the lockdown when kids were on screens.
Screen, screen, screens.
And this is where they got subverted.
They got subverted by social media.
Um, and they were, they were, but you think the parents were, were not feeling good in the lockdown?
No, everyone felt, uh, you know, very anxious and then, then they didn't feel good.
And teenage girls already have problems with feeling good about themselves and they were subverted by it.
Yes.
I want to ask you while you're, just before you do this, because it comes to mind, a rhetorical question.
The commentary about the kids on screens during the lockdown and not going to school, not going to school, not going to class, not socializing, but they're being on the screen all the time.
They're at home, homeschooling.
They were getting their lessons.
The teachers were there.
They were telling them to do this and read this and do that and do this and that.
And it turns out that all you hear now is, oh, because of that, the kids are two years behind.
Yeah.
So in other words, the screen time and all the learning from home and all the rest of it was useless.
Then if that's true, which it seems to be, that's what they're complaining about, then why is working from home so good?
It's not.
It can't be.
Not if you base it on what happened during that lockdown.
We had, this was last summer, one of the daughters was visiting and she had some of her friends from New York, they also were in Austin for some reason, and these, I think, you know, like three guys, probably two of them, two or three, or maybe all three gay, I don't know, but they were like, you know, lawyers.
Like high-end like intellectual jobs and they came out and they're hanging out in the pool and they literally would set their laptops up because they were working from home.
They set up their laptops and they had all these little programs that move the mouse to make it look like they were working.
Isn't that cool?
It's very funny.
And then from time to time they go in, just do a little something, open a document, just to make sure that it looked like, because you know, it's all tracked by IT.
And we got a note from Alex.
Gents, we want to follow up a couple items.
The school I work at in New York State is OTG.
Off the grid!
Families and students must pledge to limit smart devices time spent on them, etc.
Many of our students, even high schoolers, have zero access to social media.
We are even pushing to limit laptops in the classroom and return to books and paper.
Check us out at NorthAcademy.org.
In my five years here, we've had in total one suicide.
Less than five students medicated for ADD, ADHD, depression, etc.
Zero students on IEP plans.
I don't know what that, what is IEP?
I don't know what that is.
All students learn together.
Look it up.
It's probably for special ed.
I'll look it up.
I'll look it up.
IEP plans.
All students learn together and we do not discriminate based on diagnosis or perceived differences.
Zero trans in students.
Zero trans students.
It does not even come up in class ever.
As far as I know, we've had one student who identified as homosexual.
Again, accepted but not promoted.
The individualized education plan.
There you go.
Indoctrination.
Developed to ensure a child who has a disability identified under the law and is attending an elementary or secondary for the disabled kids.
We are a boarding and day school.
Send your kids, but really, any parents who are interested can reach out to me on Mastodon.
And it's braficy at noagendasocial.com.
B-R-A-H-P-H-E-C-Y.
Let's help save the 850,000 listeners and their children.
I wholeheartedly believe our schools here in New York can help change some of these trends.
So, just so you know, Now, by the way, it's probably an Epoch Times, NTD-related outfit, because they know how bad it can be.
So they have almost none of the issues that we hear of that are rampant without the screens.
This is without the screens.
So, we have another email from Mason.
I heard the show, want to share my experience around children's screens and phones.
My wife and I have a 20-month-old son who has kept almost entirely screen-free.
No children's shows, no YouTube, no phones, no iPads.
Only screen used would be when we have a sports game on, but he isn't interested in that.
20-month-old.
We've noticed that he's less interested in our phones than other toddlers we've seen.
Perhaps because he doesn't know all the fun things a phone can have.
Having said that, he is still interested in our phones because we are interested in our phones.
He is clearly picking up on it.
Quick note on low screen kids.
Almost everyone who meets our son comments on his ability to play creatively with simple toys by himself and his engagement with us and other adults.
It's hard not to use screens as a crutch with kids and it takes purpose, but there are very real benefits to start showing up almost immediately.
And here comes several weeks ago after seeing him more and more interested in my phone, I switched to a light phone too, the lightphone.com, and put my iPhone in a drawer.
I did this both to unhook myself from my device as well as to help my son have a normal life, abnormal by today's standards.
The results have been immediate for both of us.
I'm less interested in my phone, and he's not interested at all.
The phone has a black and white e-ink screen, very limited functionality, so there's no draw for me or for the child.
I was anxious to switch at first, but after getting it up and running, I felt immediately freed from it all.
I share this because the light phone might be a good tool for others in Gitbonation, both in curbing their own addictions to these apps and for allowing older kids to have the ability to communicate without giving them access to anything online.
And so I ordered one.
I ordered a light phone, and when it comes in, I'll do a full review, but I think we've talked about it before in the OTG days.
And I'm thinking, if you want to save your child, here's a list of things that I would like to suggest you give to your kids.
I like phone too, because you can call, you can text, and it's not, you know, punching in the number five times, it has a little actual keyboard, there's no camera, it does have directions, you can listen to podcasts, and you can use it as a hotspot.
And with that, give your kid a laptop, teach your kid how to put Linux Mint on it, so the kid has an understanding that you control the device, doesn't control you.
Give your kid a high-quality standalone camera.
John, would you like to give any suggestions?
Because you always use these cameras.
Well, any camera from Olympus I'd say would be a good stand-alone camera, the little ones.
Or if you want to just, you know, bite the bullet and buy a Nikon, one of the ones using an APSC, one of the bigger sensors.
But a four-third sensor is also good.
Or a full frame, but those cost too much, so forget that.
But just a little thing you put in your pocket, you know, the zoom, the lens zooms out.
Oh, you could put a million of these, yeah.
And then, you know, you take it home, then you load it onto your laptop with Linux Mint, and you can choose stuff.
And then, apparently... Well, it takes a better picture, generally speaking, than a phone can.
Yeah, but it's all... Generally.
You can take pictures, but you're not doing selfies.
You're not doing selfies.
And you can't get on any social media.
Then, parents, I would recommend you look at an Umbrel or a Start 9 home server so you can give your kid, you know, some stuff.
They can have their own little chat room with their friends that you can monitor.
And if you don't know what that is, go to GetUmbrel.com.
It's all free.
Then you should also give your kid a handheld 2-meter ham radio and both of you take the test.
Take the test!
I mean this.
Take the test.
Take the test.
And you should encourage their friends to do this so they can talk to each other over distances.
It's $35 for these little things.
Give them a library card.
Get them a dog.
And an AR-15.
And teach them how to use it.
Yeah, and probably a pocket protector.
Yeah, okay.
If you're going to be a ham, you might as well have one of those.
I would rather my kid be a nerd than any alternative.
Any alternative.
And then finally, know that you have power to stop this insanity.
It is happening.
It's unbelievable.
I didn't think it would happen.
But the Bud Light boycott is making a difference.
The numbers are in.
Sales are down 26%.
There's a poll done.
I'm not big on polls.
This is a Rasmussen poll, which is also, of course, like a right-wing, right-leaning outfit.
But the numbers are clear.
That Budweiser and Bud Light is suffering significantly.
They cannot bring themselves to apologize.
I mean, I went out, I was talking to my... Yeah, but stop.
This is an interesting point.
They can't bring themselves to apologize.
They're afraid they're going to offend someone by apologizing.
Yep.
We didn't do anything wrong.
Well, that's the worst part.
They're, you know, they're saying, well, you know, it's just one single can.
Now remember, we've talked about this.
It's the, it's the distributors, the local distributors own the business.
And these people are mad because they, you know, bars are saying, nope, no, I'm not, I don't want Bud Light.
We're boycotting them.
Tommy, who helped me, you know, we lost a tree during that big storm.
He's, he comes over with his, with his chainsaw and he's, and I go out and talk with Tommy.
He's from Waco originally.
And they all know, I'm not drinking Bud Light.
Says, you know what else I'm not doing?
I'm not buying Nike shoes anymore.
And Tommy is 63, and he has his helper Ryan, he's 28, and Ryan said, nope, nope, nope, nope, not doing it.
Were they Bud Light drinkers before?
They would drink Bud Light.
I don't know if they drank Bud Light, but they're boycotting all Budweiser products and all Anheuser-Busch products in general.
They know exactly what beers are under the InBev brand.
And they're, no, screw those guys.
And they're taking a stand.
And it's working.
It's working.
And what's happening is now the marketing community, they are freaking out.
Because influencers, that was the business.
Oh yeah, influencers.
They're all over TikTok.
They're all over Instagram.
Oh yeah, this is how we get our word out.
And that's why they gave this stupid Dylan Mulvaney his own can, so he could tout that.
I love when you blow your nose.
And now all of these marketing departments are going to be like, holy crap, because the VP of marketing at Bud got fired.
Uh, she's on leave.
No, she got fired.
Then it was not, it was not even the Dylan Mulvaney thing so much.
It was the, well, it's a tired old fratty brand.
Yeah, the arrogance.
The arrogance of it.
Marketing arrogance is the worst.
The incredible arrogance of it all.
And so keep it up.
Boycott.
This is the American power.
And I don't know if Anheuser-Busch can recover because this is sticking.
This is sticking.
And Coors and other brands that are non-InBev are mysteriously going up.
It's really going up now.
So with all this, of course, you know, what do you do about all what?
I mean, social media is the problem.
Screen phones are the problem.
There's there's an article, Gen Zers are snapping up flip phones, Wall Street Journal.
You know, so I don't know, you know, we've seen these trends before, but some of the kids are like, yeah, I'm sick of this stuff.
So, you know, and also it's too expensive, these dumb phones, the light phone $2.99 seems like a good deal.
I'll do a review of that.
But, you know, Where I think, ultimately, parents need to take responsibility.
Just as this email said, they're the ones who are hooked on their phones.
You've got to get off your phone.
You've got to get a light phone.
You've got to change your ways because your kids are seeing it.
And you need to, you know, be aware of what they're doing.
Be aware of these social media networks.
That's why don't give them a phone for it.
Let them do it at home on the laptop so you can look along and look over their shoulder.
Kids are always going to do weird stuff that you don't know about, but you have to be more involved and you can't just say, I don't know, I don't understand it while you're doom scrolling on TikTok, you morons!
And of course, our legislators, they have all these dumb ideas, which you'll now be arguing about forever.
A showdown over social media for kids.
As the US Federal Trade Commission accuses Meta, parent company of Facebook and Instagram, of misusing the personal data of its youngest users.
Facebook has repeatedly violated its privacy promises.
The company's recklessness has put young users at risk and Facebook needs to answer for its failures.
In 2019, Facebook agreed to pay a $5 billion civil penalty over data privacy practices in the wake of the Cambridge Analytica scandal.
The FTC, though, says the company has not lived up to its commitments in that settlement, alleging that children under 13 are still able to chat with parentally unapproved contacts and that the company is still passing private data to unused third-party apps.
It's proposed sanctions include a total ban on meta-monetizing the data of under-18s, a pause on the launch of new products pending compliance review, and limits on the use of facial recognition technology.
Meanwhile, a bipartisan group of U.S.
senators is calling for a total ban on social media for kids 12 and under.
The technology industry is going to find all sorts of innovative ways to try to squash this bill because, you know, this is their profit center.
Our kids.
And promoting really dangerous content, often to our kids.
Meta says the FTC's latest move is a political stunt, accusing the regulator of overstepping its authority.
The company has 30 days to formally respond.
And the reason why none of this works and none of this will happen and why social networks and social media is always going to be around is because the lib joes love it.
The liberal journalists love, all journalists probably, but the lib joes are the worst.
Oh, we love, and we're not, ew, screw Elon, we're going to Mastodon.
And then they were on Mastodon like, well, we don't, we, you know, it's not exactly the way we like it and we can't find people and we can't count all of our, our views and our likes.
And here we go to the rescue.
Jack Dorsey releases Blue Sky.
Have you been following Blue Sky?
I've only heard about it.
So I got a Blue Sky invite.
Thank you very much.
One of our producers gave that to me.
And I'll just give you the technical background because this is not discussed.
Blue Sky, the idea of Blue Sky is it kind of works like Mastodon where you have your identity or like Nostril as well.
You have your identity and that is yours and you can use this identity to check into different neighborhoods or different servers, but you can be federated across the entire platform.
So, not a single reporter is reporting on what it actually is, but what they did is- Oh!
Oh, this is great!
This is like Twitter without Elon!
I've got an invite!
You got an invite?
I got an invite!
Yeah, oh, I have an invite!
Ooh!
Jake Tapper's on there!
Ooh, yeah!
AOC is on there!
Oh, yes!
This is great!
Oh, it's a- Oh, let's everybody show our boobs!
Okay, everybody show your butt!
Okay!
The trans movement is here!
And all the Lib Joe's love it.
You know why?
Because you can quote tweet.
They're all, the whole platform is one Lib Joe smorgasbord.
And so they're abandoning Mastodon as quick as they can.
Trying to, you know, they're creating their own language.
Yes, they're not tweets, they're skeets.
What?
They're not tweets, they're skeets.
You know, blue sky, skeet.
They're actually, they're actually calling them skeets?
Yes.
Yes, I know.
I know.
I know.
Holy moly.
So, I mean, I can just, I can, I have to give you one of my codes.
You, you must, you have to witness it.
This is better than the secret Mastodon server we have.
It is, they are so, I mean, they're insane.
And so they're all gonna flock to this.
This is the new, oh, this is the new thing.
It's much better than Elon's Twitter.
Jake Tapper, skeets.
The AI has such a weird take on my face.
I mean, everyone is just gushing over how great this is.
And this is the new Twitter.
I will look into it.
I'll give you my invite code.
I only have one more.
I'll give you my invite.
And that's, you know, it's a big, oh, how many invite codes?
Oh, well, you need moderation.
Oh, yeah.
Now they're talking about how they need to moderate.
So keep children away from journalists, I would say.
That's another good... Keep them away from journalists.
Keep them away from news in general.
Tell them to listen to the No Agenda Show.
That'll be good for him.
And you know what you should teach your children?
Value for value.
Yeah, have them donate.
With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
Saying good morning to you, the man who put the C in chat GPT.
Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John C. DeMora!
In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
Also in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air.
Subs in the water and all the names are nice.
Let's measure them right away before they run away.
I think we're late today.
We only have one segment.
For reasons which will be obvious, although we have some longer notes.
1914 today.
I don't know.
That doesn't seem like a lot.
People are abandoning us, John!
That's about a hundred higher than usual.
Oh, really?
Yeah, this is not Sunday.
Oh, it's Thursday.
Yeah, of course.
Well, those are the trolls that are in the troll room.
And you can find them at trollroom.io.
Or if you have one of those brand new podcast apps, you're dumping the legacy stuff.
The ones where, you know, your favorite podcast just might go away because someone decided they didn't like it and they removed it from Spotify or Apple.
Even, you know, even the guys on Spotify are all saying that everybody says this except us.
Wherever you get your podcast from.
Which, not to interrupt the segment, but I do have a What's Wrong With Podcasting bit.
Oh, well, hold on.
Let me finish this and then we'll play the clip because that's what the donation segment is for.
It's for interviews with guests and for clips.
Clips like this one.
So finish what you were doing.
Yes.
Kara.
Yes.
Yes, you throw me off my game when you do that stuff.
Go to podcastapps.com, grab yourself a modern podcast app.
Now there are a couple that have this troll room feature in it.
It's Podverse, CurioCaster, Podcast Addict, Podcast Guru with more coming.
And you'll be alerted just like a bat signal and you can pop right in.
All your podcasts will be there.
Including the No Agenda Show podcast, but also the live podcast.
And more and more podcasts are doing this.
This is the cool thing.
You want to be a part of that for sure.
Now you can also follow us at noagendasocial.com.
You know, I kicked that guy off, Ironhide, whatever his name was.
Yeah, that guy.
Yeah.
And now he keeps trying to come in and he's like, he's posting all kinds of horrible things about us.
Like what?
Like, well, we're homophobic, you know, we're boring, we're old, we're stupid, you know, that kind of stuff.
Oh, gosh.
I don't know what to do.
Well, but he insults people all the time.
You know, the thing that he over... Look, I don't like kicking people off.
I normally just ignore them or block them, but I tried to calm him down in a private conversation, then he started posting all our emails.
Get rid of him.
He's a no-good Nick.
Exactly.
A no-good Nick.
Exactly.
Um, by the way, big shout out to Nick the Rat.
He had what we call a great get yesterday.
A great get, which is a great guest.
Did you hear the guest he had?
Yeah, he had my wife.
Yes, Mimi Dvorak!
Did you get your book?
Not only did we get the book, we love our book!
Too Many Eggs.
TooManyEggs.com.
And we'll be discussing it on Curry and the Keeper.
Because there's been an egg controversy in the family for a long time, and we have answers.
Is it solved by the book?
Yes, it is solved by the book.
I don't know if I'm happy with it, but yeah, it's solved.
Oh, so it didn't go your way.
The controversy.
It's big.
It's a big-ass book.
What does that thing cost if you buy the book?
I know you can download the PDF for free.
I think it's $48.
That's a good value.
Yeah, it's actually, we're underpricing it.
And we're also giving away a free PDF.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, we're in it to lose money.
So people should take advantage of it.
Sounds like a podcast.
I like your idea.
TooManyEggs.com and get a free PDF copy of it.
The quality of this book and the hardcover is like a Taschen book.
You know what I mean?
No.
You know what a Taschen book is?
No, I don't know the term.
Tashin is a publisher and they do these beautiful coffee table books, big size, with a hard cover.
It's not like, it doesn't look like a self-published piece of crap.
It's nice.
And it looks beautiful on the table.
Yeah, it looks beautiful on the table.
We know how to do this work.
Look, if you want to interrupt me, I'm trying to hype the book up.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Keep going.
What am I doing?
I'm an idiot.
And I also would like everyone to pray for our Clip Custodian's son, Seamus, who had to go in for emergency chemo.
It's really shitty.
So we want prayers for Seamus, please.
Thank you all very much.
Good to note.
Yes.
All right.
TooManyEggs.com.
Just check it out and get a free copy.
It's a great book.
It's a great book.
Well, there you go.
There's our business model.
You know, we just need to make products.
Just make products.
As long as it's high quality, things take care of themselves.
Yes, exactly.
So I'm listening to one of the podcasts that are just, which is loaded.
It's one of the spinoff podcasts and it's loaded with ads for other podcasts.
Oh, what podcast is this?
And so this is an ad for Alec Baldwin's podcast.
And I want you to listen to, do you think this, this is a guy that's not geared to be a podcaster.
He can barely read the simple copy.
It just doesn't make any sense.
You know, they've tried to put him on TV to be an interviewer, and he thinks he's a really good interviewer, but just listen to this.
Hey, it's Alec Baldwin.
This past season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policy makers, and so many other fascinating people, like actress and director Cheryl Hines.
They were looking for an unknown actress to play Larry David's wife.
I said, well, how old is that guy?
Isn't he old?
Listen to the new season of Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This guy's a professional entertainer?
Yeah, he's an NPR-like guy.
That's what he thinks a podcast should be.
You know what I mean?
He's like, I have to talk like this.
I'm Alex Baldwin.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Not probably.
I just thought that was the worst promotion for a podcast ever.
Definitely not great.
I wouldn't want to be promoted.
Hey, did you hear that he got off?
Yeah, he got off.
And they also found him not liable.
Yes.
Thank you.
Heyo!
So we got the follow Adam at knowagenthesocial.com, John C. Dvorak at knowagenthesocial.com.
And as part of our value for value model, we're always asking for is to think deep inside your heart.
What kind of value did you get from this podcast?
Can you give something back?
Would you like to return the value?
There's a number of things you can do.
Time, talent, treasure.
We have people doing amazing work for us and boots-on-the-ground reports, just really being part of the large No Agenda community.
We also love the treasure part, it's very important.
But we have artists Who make art for us so we can always have a fresh piece of art for every single show.
And it is very beneficial.
Very few shows do this.
And people like it.
It gets people interested.
They see it on social media or they see it anywhere you get your podcasts.
And they go, what is this?
Let me click on this.
And then they're reminded that's no agenda because those guys have a new piece of art every single time.
So we want to thank the artists for episode 1551.
That was our palindrome show, Big Mike and the Rock.
And the art was from Capitalist Agenda.
Now we had a hard time selecting a piece of art.
This was, it was a great piece.
We both liked the piece in general.
It was a tank in a pineapple, which with ITM on it, which it really didn't make any sense unless you heard the show, which is what it is sometimes.
But, you know, we had the pineapple pizza we were talking about.
The one you liked the most was the pizza bigotry by Correct the Record.
You were a big fan of that.
It's a piece of pizza that was signed.
And I was a fan of... I was more a fan of Dame Kenny Bentz crushing the narrative.
You didn't like that at all.
Oh no, that, yeah, that, I agree, you liked that one too.
So you had those two, but I didn't like the crushing the narrative at all.
I just thought, what was the point of the fish, fist bump?
I don't know.
So, uh... No, what you wanted was the new drug from Sir Net Ned.
No, I wanted coffee for kids from Sir Net Net.
Right, but we both agreed that it wasn't clear enough that it was coffee that needed a Starbucks logo.
Right, they needed to have some logos that we thought, for example, Starbucks logos on the coffee.
Even though that's promotional, I think it would at least make the point there.
Yeah, but you like the new drug because it had take twice weekly, contains part curry, one part Dvorak, media deconstruct.
You like that one.
I did like that one, but you poo-pooed it because when you don't like art, you claim it's unreadable.
Yeah, but... So... A bone of contention arises once again.
So you nixed it.
Let's be honest, you like comic strip bloggers' butts.
The K-pop butts.
Yes, you did.
I thought that was cute.
I thought that was a cute use of some sort of butt.
But...
Then the fallback was the one we picked, which was Media Colada.
Media Colada, that's what it was, yes.
And because it brought in the pineapple, which was part of the pizza story, and the rest of it was just nonsense.
But it was a nice piece.
It was well done.
And so we picked it for its quality.
It was a good piece.
And I see that people have already been making new pieces for this show.
I also, by the way, I also like to bring this up from Mick.
Mick gooey.
Tranny fluid.
Yes.
It was too small.
But for the Bud Light, it was a transmission fluid with Bud Light on it.
It's an automatic trans fluid.
It was great.
It was a great piece, but the can of oil or what transmission fluid is too small.
Yeah, it's really a shame.
That is too small.
You even blow it up, you can't read the automatic transmission fluid or automatic trans fluid.
It was a very funny joke.
It could have been better executed.
I think it would have been a winner.
People would have thought it was very funny.
It is funny.
I think it's still funny, but it's too dinky.
And now the joke is gone.
I don't think we can do it anymore.
No, the joke's over.
It's too old.
All right, let's thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1,552 of the best podcast in the universe.
252 of the best podcasts in the universe.
A lot of 333.33s and some longer notes, everybody.
But I think in general, considering we have no nights, no title changes, we have only one meet-up report, we can blow through this in one go instead of breaking twice and still give you some good show for the money.
In fact...
May I play something that only people who listen to the donation segment will hear and all those other people who went away, those losers, will be missing out on?
Sure.
Okay, so we've been told that we have a lot of fans in aviation.
That's understandable.
I am an aviator.
And we have air traffic controllers who are thrown out in the mornings from time to time.
We like that very much.
In Nashville, we met Steve and Jessica.
And they are pretty much the Ken and Barbie of the No Agenda Show.
He is a pilot for Southwest.
She is a flight attendant for Southwest.
Beautiful.
He's seven feet tall.
You know, she's got the blonde hair and they're great people.
Fantastic.
He's a knight, and she has a... Ooh, I wrote this down.
She has...
She's an interior designer as well, I think.
And she has, ah, Tina's gonna kill me, because I wrote down the name of her shop.
Anyway, I'll get that in a moment.
So, Steve sends me a note.
He says, you know, I like that ATC is, you know, the guys are throwing it in the mornings.
I haven't heard one yet, but when I do, I'll be sure to respond with in the morning.
He says for two years, you know Southwest, they do their own little thing.
Yeah, they have a comedy act that they do in the plane, which was taken from PSA, Pacific Southwest Airlines, which is where they stole many of these ideas, except for the smile that was used to be on the plane.
But they do a comedy act when they tell you to put your seatbelt on.
It's very complex.
Sometimes they actually have a comedian on the plane doing a long sketch.
Yes.
And it's at dogwoodproper.com is Jessica's store.
So they have a lot of leeway to do whatever they want on the public address system.
Steve says, I've been doing this, what I'm about to play for you, for two years.
And not all my co-pilots understand it, but it usually results in me hitting them in the mouth.
So imagine you're in Southwest.
This is the pre-takeoff announcement.
And he had one of his flight attendants record this for him.
Okay, here we go.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard in the morning from Paul and Steve up front where your pilots flying you to St. Louis.
Louis today.
I'll be off the gate and on our way.
We're heading to St. Louis today, one hour and 33 minutes.
We'll be headed to St. Louis at a cruising altitude of 33,000 feet.
St. Louis weather last hour reporting.
Mostly sunny skies.
Looks like the temperature there, mid-70s with winds light out of the north.
Getting off the gate and on our way shortly.
Thanks for choosing us here at Southwest today.
Welcome aboard in the morning.
He says he has not heard an in the morning back yet in two years that he's been doing it.
Thank you.
But you gotta love that.
That'd be great to be on that plane.
I'd be storming the cockpit.
I love these guys!
All right, let's kick off the donations today with Builder Mike in Eddystone, Pennsylvania, 333.33.
In the morning, this notice to accompany my donation in commemoration of my birthday, my 61st, which happens on a show day this year.
Birthday list, you're on it.
I'm also attaching the file for Barnhart Donation.
Barnhart Donation.
I first heard... Hey, if you're donating $333.33, you can have a donation jingle.
I like the cash register.
Yeah, we like it a lot.
Barnhart Donations.
I first heard of No Agenda at MoFax while listening to the Barnhart podcast a few years ago.
Oh, okay.
And became a regular listener after I asked the Barnhart podcast to recommend a source for news.
Thanks, guys!
I'm on a recurring donation, made a couple during the double-up promotions, and this is my first executive producer donation.
Be assured of my prayers along with those of the good folks at barnhart.biz.
That's B-A-R-N-H-A-R-D-T dot biz for you and John C. Thank you for your courage.
Non Timebit Cormium.
My heart shall not fear.
Oh, OK.
Nice.
Thank you very much.
Throwing in some Latin.
You're on the list.
You got it, man.
Thank you.
All right.
Next is Dennis O'Brien out of Brooklyn, and he gives us 333.33, and I'm going to skip one of his paragraphs because Today's his 33rd birthday.
He's on the list.
I've been listening for almost exactly three years.
As such, it's high time to finally give you some of your much deserved V for V. Please de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
I need like a Jobs karma and a sampling of Al Sharpton.
He says he doesn't catch every show like he used to, but I still try and listen when I can.
It's a rare and precious thing in American media to hear well-informed opinions from smart guys with interesting life experiences who don't have to impress anybody or worry about getting sacked.
For pissing off the wrong billionaire.
This show is special.
Please keep it on.
A final note to my fellow Whoppies.
Commit these words to memory.
No conspiracy is necessary where the interests of the powerful are aligned.
They'll still call you crazy, but 1 in 10 might stop and think about it for a minute.
Stay safe or else!
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin a national drive to push back or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance.
But resist we much.
We must and we will much.
About that be committed.
Classic.
Classic.
Classic Sharpton.
Classic.
Was the classic.
Corporate Legal Eagle is in Baytown, Texas.
333.33.
First timer.
Corporate Legal Eagle from Texas.
You have inspired me.
I have moderated primary debates for local political organizations and plan to launch a bid for a district judge seat.
The Texas torque wrench for a precise application of law.
Thank you.
330-333 comes from Sir BNA in Nashville, Tennessee.
Oh, this is our pilot.
This is our Steve.
Our Southwest pilot, right here.
Steve Banstra.
Sir BNA.
He says, note for three things.
Hey, Gitmo Nation, Mother's Day is May 14th.
That's coming up.
And my smoking hot wife, Jessica, has the perfect gift box for mom.
And here we go.
Here it is!
www.dogwoodproper.com.
I've been using in the morning on all my welcome aboard PAs and ATC radio checks, and we played one of them.
Hopefully, this trend will be changing.
In other words, he wants to hear from some No Agenda listeners.
When you leave the plane, you can say something.
In the morning.
If John trained Kara Swisher, then when a bit-go-ahead is spoken, shouldn't Kara's colleagues say, OK, John, rather than Adam say, OK, Kara?
Huh?
Yeah, sure.
Okay, jingles.
Boogity, boogity, and that's true.
Thank you for your courage, Steve.
Okay, maybe I should do the, uh, the that's true first.
Sounds a little better that way.
Oops.
Come on, it's true.
Here we go.
That's true.
That's the wrong one.
I feel bad.
It should be... It's true.
That's true?
Is it it's true?
It's true!
It's true!
Maybe is it this one?
It's true!
No, that's Trump.
We lost it.
We lost it's true.
I don't know what's... No, that's not possible.
That's not true.
Well, it's not lost.
It's just lost.
Something's gone.
How about... It's misplaced.
Here we go.
That's true.
Oh, thank goodness.
There she is.
Glad we have her.
Maynard Throne is in Tracy, California.
333.33, short and sweet.
I'm a driver for a large grocery chain.
John really nailed it when he said, we are educating truck drivers, listeners since 2016.
No, we are educating truck drivers, comma, listeners since 2016.
A denotation is long overdue.
Please de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
Along with a John donate, donate, donate.
Let me see.
And that is this one.
And peace and love to you both.
No, I'm sorry.
Maynard Throne, Tracy, California.
Is this the one?
You've got Donate, donate, donate Karma Nice!
Nailed it.
Do you have the note?
Because I don't have it.
Yeah, I do.
Let me go and grab that.
There's two notes.
Which one is this?
Christopher?
Uh, I found it!
Oh, good.
Hey, this is Christopher Pagels, who came in with 333.33, and I'm sure mispronouncing his last name.
And he writes, hey John and Adam, this is Christopher from Menominee.
Menominee.
But I keep saying, I can't say Menominee.
Menominee.
Menominee.
Enjoy this.
Check 3333.
That's good.
The show, as of late, has been lacking in sumo analysis.
The reason is because the tournaments are every other month.
John, what did you think of that Kiribyama, Kiribyama's Yusho win?
And what is your thoughts on the May tournament?
Is it Hoshiro's time?
You know, speculating on who's, what sumo is going to win the tournaments, I've always found to be kind of weird.
Cause it's like, it's like, it's, I don't know how to say it, but it's, it's like speculating on who's going to win the NASCAR race and they do it.
Oh, I think, I think so-and-so is going to win.
No.
You never know who's gonna win.
It's just some guy gets lucky and wins a few key matches.
Also, can you say it's scary?
My niece thinks it's your best catchphrase.
No, no, no.
Oh, it's a scam.
It's a scam.
You gotta say it right.
It's a scam.
Let me get it right.
It's a scam!
Nice.
Stay dangerous, Christopher.
Thank you.
Michael Dorman is in Redmond, Washington.
3.33 in the morning.
Gents, thanks for all you do.
Please accept some value for value.
Jingle ants in my pants.
I think he means ants.
The ants.
Classic ants.
We'll play a little bit of it.
May I please have some relationship karma as I'm starting off something with a new special lady.
As much as I would love to say no jingles, no jiggles.
She's got here.
No jiggles, no karma.
I can't.
Could I get a foamer?
Trains good, planes bad and some goat karma at the end of the note.
Let me be brief.
I just made this donation very early in the morning while my smoking hot boyfriend is asleep.
His birthday was on April 29th and I failed to get him a birthday shout out on the Sunday show.
So I had the idea to donate 333 and ask what it goes toward the eventual knighthood of Eric Bradley.
But I would like the executive producer, if that's not too much to ask.
Of course.
Good for you.
Good, yeah, I agree.
Anyway, I know he's listening to the live show, so I guess this is somewhat of a surprise for him.
Happy belated 27th birthday to you, Harschopf.
Harschkopf.
Harschkopf.
What is it?
Well, it's German.
You're 33-33, closer to being a knight now.
Love you.
Mean it.
Oh my God!
Woo!
Listen to that horn!
All aboard, train's good, plane's bad.
You've got... Karma.
Greg Birch!
Oh, there's Greg Birch!
Yeah, he's Baron.
Baron Greg Birch.
He's the official No Agenda dentist.
Dental professional from way up north in Port Angeles, Washington.
$300.
Thank you, Greg.
Birthday May 6.
First one without my father.
I'm sorry, ma'am.
I also understand all too well how much Adam's surgery cost.
Not overboard.
Haven't missed a show.
Cheers, Sir Birch.
Thank you.
Thank you, Sir Birch.
Nice guy.
I still use... Well, he was the first one that turned me on to the Sonicare toothbrushes.
He sent me one.
And I've been using them ever since.
Yeah, he sent me one too.
Mine blew up.
I had to buy another one.
It blew up?
Like exploded in your face?
It blew up.
Like a vape?
Sir John and Blaine Minnesotanuts.
$2.99.
He becomes associate executive producer and he says, best show ever last Sunday, I believe.
Very interesting, the Tucker and Dawn analysis.
Don wanted to get a quick donation off before the deadline and can't wait and can't for the life of me find what the exact email is for the note.
Adam, would you please tell the listeners out there what the note address is?
Notes.
N-O-T-E-S at noagendashow.net.
Notes at noagendashow.net.
That's notes at noagendashow.net.
Went to the rickety Dvorak.org page, which is being changed as we speak, and it still says to send money to Johnny Dvorak, or send notes, I don't remember that, but if it did I got it and I forwarded it to Jay who put it in the spreadsheet.
Not unless it said donation in the subject line.
And it said donation in the subject line wisely.
Yes.
So I guess it's official, though, I swear it goes on.
Keep them coming, guys, of the best show we ever did.
No jingles, no karma.
Sir John of the Dunkirk Mudflats.
Baron of Whistler, in Whistler, BC.
I've been to Whistler.
It's fantastic, that glacier up there.
California.
Canada, I'm sorry.
244.91.
This is 333 Candanavian.
That's right, sir.
We have to upgrade him.
You are upgraded.
I got your list to be upgraded.
We still do that, even though your money is getting pretty pathetic.
I mean, it's short.
You're short!
You're short changing us by like 60 bucks!
Crazy.
Our dollar keeps tanking.
My annual May 5th birthday donation, John forgot, so I can't complain about the Cinco de Mayo promo this year.
What did you forget?
I forgot to plug the tomorrow's Cinco de Mayo.
Ow!
Happy birthday to Theo.
Theo's on the list, I guess.
No, no.
Yeah, he is.
He's on the list.
Is it your Theo?
Theo Dvorak?
Theo Dvorak, yeah.
Oh, Theo Dvorak.
How old is Theo Dvorak turning?
He's going to be six.
Oh, man.
Are you still making him do crazy stuff?
Like what?
I know, stuff that his mother hates.
Oh, well, I mean, if possible, yeah, of course.
What's the latest?
Give us the latest.
Well, I haven't got any latest ones because, you know, he's been grumpy and he's not, uh... Oh, he's a... He's a Dvorak.
We haven't had the opportunity.
He's a Dvorak.
He's grumpy.
Grumpy kid.
Ah, happy birthday to Theo.
Thanks for keeping it real.
Regards, Baron of Whistler.
Loose goat karma, please.
Yeah, we got that for you, man.
You've got... karma.
Sir Tooth Fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana.
Uh, hey guys.
John, I received my copy of Too Many Eggs the other day.
Nice.
What a wonderful cookbook.
Please tell Mimi I'm greatly enjoying it and can't wait to try some of the recipes this weekend.
Well, that'll keep you busy.
Adam, thank you for sharing your dental implant experience.
Your hearing improved after the infected molars being removed is very interesting.
I have been screening my hard of hearing patients for undiagnosed sinus infections since I heard your story.
Cool.
Thanks for all you do.
And Adam, could you please not be so short with John?
What is this?
He means well.
Yeah, and I agree with Sir Toothfairy.
What do you mean?
I'm not short with you.
Yak Karma for all, please.
Sir Toothfairy.
Finally.
Wow.
I would appreciate you letting me know if you've found any undiagnosed sinus infections.
And I need to hook you up with Mitch Maverick, my periodontist.
We're going to start a revolution.
I think.
All right.
Yes, of course.
We got Yak Karma for you.
No problem.
You've got Those are the Executive and Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1552.
We thank you all very much.
These credits that you get are permanent.
They never go away.
You will always be an Executive Producer or Associate Executive Producer of this episode.
Flaunt that broadly wherever you feel like it.
You could put it on all kinds of places your resume a LinkedIn profile IMDB you can actually use this and start an IMDB profile.
They are accepted And they are recognized there and unlike the douchebags in Hollywood If anyone questions this we'd be happy to hop on the phone and a vouch for you We got a couple of meetups to talk about John's gonna take us through to the 50s right now Matt saying, yeah, we do have a few people to thank.
Continue to thank.
I'm starting with Matt in St.
Clair, and these are just names and amounts.
Matt St.
Clair.
It's Matt in St.
Clair, Michigan, 133.33.
Urbana Boulders.
Oh, it's Boulders.
Is it really Boulders, not Builders?
I don't know.
But anyways, Urbana Boulders LLC in Urbana, Illinois.
Barron Ladekin in Houston, Texas.
John Robinet, parts unknown.
Ron Chambliss in Attica, Indiana.
Metal Dog Machines in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta.
100.
Send us a machine to try.
I want a machine.
I want a machine, and I want a boulder.
A boulder would be handy.
I'd love to have a boulder.
You could use one of that in your yard.
I could.
Patrick Brandon, 86.
Oh, by the way, those are all $100 donors, sorry.
Yeah.
Patrick Brandon is 86.
Kevin McLaughlin's back with 8008.
Just how many can he do?
Yeah.
Gabe, and he's in Locust, North Carolina.
Gabe the farrier.
What's a farrier, you think?
Farrier or fourier?
It says farrier, and it came right off the spreadsheets.
Brentwood, California.
Send us a farrier!
808.
Wyan Cartini in Torrington, Connecticut, 7421.
at 7421. Corey Rule in Marion, Iowa, 7183.
Instrument check or something.
I'm not sure what he wants.
Sarah Hubert in Mitcham, UK sent us a really sweet note on a piece of... On a pig.
On a pig.
And she is... It's just an interesting note.
She's, I guess, does murals or something.
She's an itinerant artist.
I want to thank her for that.
But why don't you read the note?
She took the trouble of sending it on a pig.
Yeah, I have it.
I have it.
I have it.
You have it.
Why don't you read it?
In the morning, John Adam, here's my rather late happy birthday John donation.
You see, it's important.
Oh yeah, it is for me.
7158.
58P, that's pence, is for my birthday, which was on the 4th.
It's late because I was value for valuing in a remote rural South African Zoza Village.
Oh, I've seen, I've seen Sarah's work.
She sent me a picture of this.
I paint murals and teach local artists in return for accommodation and meals.
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Thank you, Sarah.
Nice note.
Worth it.
Yeah, she's actually famous.
Max Windham in Spring, Texas, $68.
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Gotta get that E in there.
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65-56.
And he wants to give a shout out to Ann-Peter Strickverde.
In?
Heerde.
They're doing it just to get this out of you.
You should be sending more money for that, people.
You're making my monkey perform.
Come on, let's send more money.
Let's send more money.
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Oh, Merseyside.
5510.
Oh, yeah.
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I need some karma.
We'll put it at the end there for you.
5446.
And I could have the name wrong.
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Bob Butler's next in coming, Georgia.
5069.
Mike Vaughn in Clarkston, Michigan.
5036 with a birthday.
Dame Night is who this is.
Hold on a second.
Mike Vaughn also says, missed Make Good from Show 1500.
Hmm.
Need some baby-making karma.
I'll do that for you, Mike.
I got the baby-making karma.
We got the special baby-making karma.
Dame Night in Edmonds, Washington is $50.15.
And now we got the $50 donors.
A few of them.
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Send us a Dotted Mind with a machine.
We need a Dotted Mind.
We need a couple.
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on the island.
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In Nappanoag, New York.
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I have one note that came into my PO box, which is always a little confusing.
$160 in cash from... and it's a handwritten note.
Podfather, I hope this note finds you well and resting post-surgery.
Please find my long-overdue donation.
I'm not worthy of any awards or accolades.
I kindly ask for Carba from my smoking hot wife and two human resources.
It says, cheers, Waffhund or Woofhound.
It's kind of hard to read.
And he gave me a cool patch, which looks like some service, some military service that shoots down Chinese balloons.
And try and get that to the right P.O.
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It ruins the accounting, and it's already sketched.
So we have to keep everything on the up and up.
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We appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who also came in under $50.
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Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
We hit people in the mouth.
What?
What?
Shut up, Slame.
Shut up, Slame.
It's your birthday, birthday.
I'm so much younger.
Our birthday list includes Sarah Hubert, who celebrated, uh, who celebrated today, April 4th.
Lauren Paloada wishes her smoking hot boyfriend Eric Bradley a bladed happy birthday.
He turned 27 on April 29th.
Oh wait, Sarah was April 4th.
That's an old one, I'm sorry.
Mike Vaughn turned 36 on April 30th.
We have the Baron of Belmont wishing his comrade John Thrower a happy birthday.
That was May 1st.
Builder Mike turning 61 today.
Danelle Mackey celebrating today.
Theodore, the Theodoreable Dvorak, tomorrow, May 5th.
Baron of Whistler, also tomorrow, May 5th.
Greg Birch, our dentist up north, May 6th.
And Dennis O'Brien is turning 33.
Happy birthday from everybody here.
The best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah.
No agenda meetups.
It's not your party.
Yeah.
The no agenda meetups.
I am now, I'm going to the Austin meetup on the 13th, I believe.
Tina's going to be in New York with her, visiting her daughter.
That'll be for Mother's Day.
So I'm going to be there and bring my buddy Jimmy.
So looking forward to everybody at Doc's Backyard on the 13th.
We had a one report.
This is the I Might Be High report.
Their 10th.
10th coming together as a meetup.
In the morning, John and Adam, we had our 10th meetup in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
In honour of Canada's Bill C-11, we bring you the I Must Be High meetup report.
How many donators in this room?
My name's not Troy, and I'm really high.
In the morning, Adam and John from Toronto.
Still a douchebag.
So sorry, broke musician.
I'm a douchebagette.
This is cool.
Adam Curry DM'd me.
I'll come up with something.
In the morning, Bitcoin.
I could buy weed with it, right?
They actually were high!
That's impressive!
It's not just a slogan, those guys mean it.
Starting right now, if you're in Brookfield, Illinois, the May the 4th Be With You Meetup is kicking off.
That's for Chicago Central, Irish Times Pub and Restaurant.
On Saturday, the Hoosiers Fort Wayne Club 33 Weekend Dancers Meetup, 1 o'clock at Howell's Tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
We have the Secret Chinese Spy Balloon South Jersey Meetup on Saturday at 1 o'clock at Miller's Ale House, Mount Laurel, New Jersey.
Hogan's Heroes Meetup in Ohio, Michigan.
The Ohio-Michigan Mixer, 1 o'clock.
Liberty Aviation Museum, that's in Port Clinton, Ohio.
You must RSVP.
Sir Timothy of No Fix Title is organizing that.
The Delaplane, Virginia.
New location.
Spook Meetup, I guess.
Barrel Oak Winery and Brewery in Delaplane, Virginia.
All right.
If you're spook, you need to be there.
Also on Saturday, the Virginia, Maryland, West Virginia Tri-State Data Science Meetup.
Madison Village Apartments Clubhouse, the main room in Winchester, Virginia.
Two spook meetups.
And the Making Our Own Milieu at 4 o'clock New York time, Cleveland Draft House, Garner, North Carolina.
There you go.
TJ, the redhead at the bar, is organizing.
Hey now!
And on Sunday, our next show day, the Build Snohomish Back Better, Snohomish Back Better, 3 o'clock Pacific, South to Summit Brewing, Snohomish, Washington.
Lady Jane is, Lady 3 Jane is organizing that.
We got a lot of meetups all the way through, I see May, all the way to the end of June already.
Yeah, the Netherlands, couple of them.
You want you in an Amsterdam meetup?
Leiden?
Oh, the Netherlands going insane.
All kinds of meetups.
This is something that you need in your life.
You go to one and you're guaranteed you will go to another one.
Even when you're vacationing somewhere, before you know it, but hey, there's a meetup.
You'll always be checking it.
Go to joeagendameetups.com.
Look around, search around.
If you can't find a meetup near you, start one.
It's easy and it's always a party.
It sure is.
How are we doing on time?
It sure is.
How are we doing on time?
Oh, man.
You know, we're on one donation segment.
We do more podcasts.
We do more podcasts.
So, a couple of things I wanted to play.
Do you have an ISO?
I do have an ISO.
How many do you have?
I appear to have four, for some reason.
Well, I have one, and so I think you're gonna win, but here's my one.
You're okay.
Oh, goodness.
Yeah, I mean, I could fart and do a better echo win the ISO contest over that one.
Let's see what I got.
Wow, that is really interesting.
Okay, that's it right there.
Let me play the other three.
This is the same guy who said, wow, I'm really high.
You're not great at stoking outrage.
Ah, what a shame.
A little too produced, I think.
What's this one?
Ooh, yeah, okay.
Mm-hmm.
And my last one?
Russian disinformation.
It's cute, but no.
It's definitely this one, huh?
Wow, that is really interesting.
Because it's really not.
Okay, we'll use that one.
Yeah, that's cute.
All right, good.
What do you got?
You got some... Yeah, I wanted to talk a little bit.
I got two clips because it's so, you know, it's not being reported well here in this country as usual because M5M has their, they have their walking papers or their orders or whatever they call it.
Your orders!
They get their orders and they're not going to do too much about this Belgrade school shooting in Serbia.
Oh, okay.
Good one.
I'm glad you got this.
So here we have two, I have two clips and one of them has a little tidbit that won't be talked about much.
And the other one has kind of another little tidbit they don't want to talk about.
So let's play the Belgrade school shooting.
This is Al Jazeera.
The parents of a 13-year-old boy accused of opening fire in a school in the Serbian capital, Belgrade, have been arrested.
Oh, wow.
cities mourning the deaths of eight children and one security guard.
Police say the suspect used his father's gun in the attack, but the boy is not expected to be charged because he's below the legal age to face trial.
Instead, Serbian President Aleksandr Vucic is looking to change the law concerning the age of criminal responsibility and says the boy will be placed in a psychiatric institution.
Huh.
So they're doing something that was always talked about in this country, And it just disappeared from the face of the earth.
Arresting the parents for their bad seed.
Yeah.
And now, was this kid drugged up?
We don't have any, probably not in this case, but who knows.
Maybe, but whatever the case was, the parents of the 13-year-old shooter was arrested.
Wow.
I think if we started doing that here, it might change a few things.
I would think so.
So the parents were arrested and then you hear this other little tidbit in the end of this second part of this report which I think is another reason not to really talk about it too much.
Fire on students inside a hallway before entering his history classroom.
He shot the teacher first, then turned the weapon on his classmates as they tried to flee, killing and wounding many.
I was walking up the stairs, and I could hear a sound that I thought maybe were kids throwing firecrackers, having fun.
But then I could hear it more, and the sound was coming from the front of the school.
I saw the security guard falling to the ground, so I quickly ran from where I was.
A security guard is also among the dead.
The teacher left fighting for her life.
This tragedy occurred in the Vladislav Rubnik Primary School of the Vraca municipality of the city of Belgrade.
Unfortunately, eight children died and one security guard was also killed.
The injured children and one school teacher have been hospitalized.
No one can bring these children back to their parents.
As parents and emergency services hurried to the elementary school in the Serbian capital, the suspect was on the phone to the police, confessing the shooting before being arrested in the schoolyard.
Described as quiet and good pupil and said to be new to the class, he was led away by police, his face covered.
There is yet no known motive for an attack that the police said was carefully planned.
This was the list of children that he intended to kill.
He did it alone.
He made the plan by himself.
The plan of entering the school, of exiting.
It was found on his desk.
And as he said, he determined the priority targets.
This sketch looks like a video game, a horror movie.
These sort of things does not happen very often in Serbia where strict gun laws apply.
It doesn't happen very often, because strict gun laws apply.
There you go.
Can't talk about shh.
Stop it with the strict gun laws.
Well, since that was rather depressing, I'd like to leave on an upbeat note about climate change.
And the reason this is an upbeat clip is because this is Kennedy, you know, the Joe Kennedy, the funny guy.
The funny, is he a senator?
Or is he a congressman?
John Kennedy.
John Kennedy, yes.
I think he's a senator.
Yeah, he's a – that's a good question.
I don't remember what he is.
I think he's a senator.
So he is badgering the Assistant Secretary of Energy who has presented the most recent plan, which is I guess over – until 2035, a total of $50,000,000,000 to combat climate change. a total of $50,000,000,000 to combat climate change.
Have you seen this clip?
No, I'm sure it's, I know his type, his style of clips though.
They're always funny.
All these, all the Senators and the Congress people, when they do this stuff for the cameras, it's always performative, it's always, you know, it's to get votes or whatever.
But this guy, he... Showboating.
Showboating.
But in this case, it's really appropriate and it's really good and he just is, I love the guy.
Yeah, but if you could answer my question, if we spend 50 trillion dollars So first of all, it's a net cost.
in the United States of America by 2050.
You're the Deputy Secretary of Energy.
Give me your estimate of how much that is going to reduce world temperatures.
So first of all, it's a net cost.
It's what benefits we're having from getting our act together and reducing all of those climate benefits.
Let me ask again.
Maybe I'm not being clear.
If we spent $50 trillion to become carbon neutral by 2050 in the United States of America, how much is that going to reduce world temperatures?
This is a global problem, so we need to reduce our emissions and we need to do everything we can.
How much, if we do our part, is it going to reduce world temperatures?
We're at 13% of global emissions.
You don't know, do you?
You don't know, do you?
You don't know, do you, Mr. Secretary?
If you know, why won't you tell me?
You don't know, do you?
You just want us to spend $50 trillion, and you don't have the slightest idea whether it's going to reduce world temperatures.
Now, I'm all for carbon neutrality, but you're the Deputy Secretary of the Department of Energy, and you're advocating we spend trillions of dollars to seek carbon neutrality, and you can't, and this isn't your money or my money, it's taxpayer money, and you can't tell me how much it's going to lower world temperatures?
Or you won't tell me?
You know, but you won't?
In my heart of hearts, there is no way the world gets its act together on climate change unless the U.S.
leads.
Tell me how much it's going to reduce.
The U.S.
needs to lead.
You can't tell me.
Either that or you won't.
I love that guy.
Oh, I got 35 seconds for one last clip.
This guy's boss, the energy secretary, Jennifer Granholm.
You know, the one with the saucers on her head that she calls ears?
Oh, she's the dumbest one in the whole group.
Well, yes, she is.
Because tell me if this sounds like a good idea.
Do you support the military adopting that EV fleet by 2030?
I do and I think we can get there as well and I do think that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally traded fossil fuels where we know that global events such as the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home.
It does not contribute to energy security.
I think energy security is achieved when we have homegrown Clean energy that is abundant, like you see in Iowa.
We think that we can be a leader globally in how we have become energy independent.
She wants to put the entire US military fleet on EVs.
Yes, I know.
That's hilarious.
So when we're in Iraq or some, you know, one of these desert places we'd like to go and blow up from time to time, we have to go plug in?
Yeah.
I mean, really?
And how about the planes?
Should they also be all EVs?
Well, they're going to try to do that, too, if they can.
These people need to be kicked out.
Kicked out.
All of them.
How'd they get in?
Incompetency.
Obviously.
No, rigged elections.
Hello?
I'm sorry, yes, rigged elections.
All right, everybody, enjoy Saturday.
You know, King Charles' coronation, that should be a moot.
Oh, that's right, that's the big coronation's on Saturday.
You played the clips, remember?
I know, but I didn't realize it was this Saturday.
Well, there you go.
No Agenda, always on top of the news and behind the times.
Yeah, well, you know, I'm not going to be there.
I wasn't invited.
Coming up next on the No Agenda stream, we've got Rhino the Bearded with his 00 Top 10.
Yeah, music on the stream.
All legal.
It's a cool deal.
End of show mixes.
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Remember us at dvorak.org slash na.
Until then, adios mofosa, hooey, hooey, and such.
Every day I wake up and it's the day.
The potholes on the road won't go away.
Prepping for the show like usual.
Did it happen?
Thank you for producing the best podcast in the universe.
Well, the producers produce it.
Y'all produce it.
We just do it.
I've been a listener for the past few years.
I have no recollection of how I found this show.
Stoner.
Hey, man.
How was I?
Hey, man.
I don't know why.
I don't know how I found it.
I just dropped it in my lap.
At first I thought it was okay.
In hindsight, the family tragedy kids passing was sad to see.
In this sick society, we normalize the lies that we tell ourselves.
Not even surprised.
Brainwashing in school is happening earlier.
Progress to regress when the men are getting earlier.
Fix your face.
Can't lie that I'm looking surlier.
Gender-affirming care, your parents, are you not scared?
Child castration, mutilation, top surgery, scars, kids being treated like stars.
Is that formation, generation, ruining the nation?
Born in the wrong body, God don't make mistakes.
Google, barb and chat, GBT is full of deep fakes.
80% moving from girls to boys.
Media portrays the other way and kids are not what?
Kids are not playing with their toys.
SEL, social emotional learning.
Cradle to the grave, real fathers in leadership is what they're yearning for.
Anti-trans legislation, say no more.
New shit has come to light.
I'm on medication therapy, more demonizing faith than a higher G-O-D.
Want you to relinquish your sovereignty to G-O-V.
Then they lie to you like Sod.
Sodom and Gomorrah are the times we are living in.
Look around at all the silly, promoted of cynicism.
No agenda.
No a what?
No agenda.
Don't get offended.
What's a woman anyway?
Top of the pyramids of transgender.
New shit has come to light.
I've got information.
My wife has worked the last six years for a company that makes prosthetic penises for trans men.
I mean, we have no listeners of any influence, but we've got interesting people out there.
We have the, we have the, uh, we have the me.
Oh, he's got no note.
To the squirrel males.
Let me just take a look.
I'm not sure.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Stop, stop, stop.
I put too many M's.
Again, nothing.
Hit it.
No.
Back to the bomb.
You know how if you smoke weed, how music can sound different?