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1548: Dangle Op

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	Stand Alone Monster!
	Adam Curry!
	John C. Dvorak!
	It's Thursday, April 20th, 2023!
	This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1548!
	This is no agenda!
	With no more hope for Mars, but broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6.
	In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody's going to Golden Gate Park at 420 to have a community toke.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Oh yeah, they still do that in San Francisco?
	They still do the community toke?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	How corny can you be?
	It was kind of, you know, it was kind of a thing when it was illegal.
	Yeah, 20 years ago.
	Yeah, even longer than that.
	When it was illegal, you know, then I was like, oh yeah, look at us, man.
	We're bold, we're out here.
	Now, I read Today, Americans spend more on legal weed than what product?
	Vodka?
	No.
	More on legal weed than guns?
	Oh, you know what?
	It would have helped if the stream was back on.
	I guess the stream... Oh, the stream's not on?
	I guess not.
	So they didn't hear my funny bit?
	No, I don't think anyone heard your funny bit.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm so sorry.
	There we go, we're back.
	The question again, John C. Dvorak, should you still want to participate in our quiz?
	Americans now spend more on which product than this, than weed?
	No, more on this product than you mean more on weed than this product.
	Yes, thank you.
	Almost want to do the show over, but no, it's okay.
	More on legal weed than this product.
	Okay, we already went past vodka.
	Okay, oil changes.
	Chocolate.
	Which I find hard to believe, but... I find that hard to believe.
	Apparently.
	A lot of it, I think, has to do with the prices.
	Legal weed's expensive.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, okay, good point.
	You know, you can buy a lot of chocolate bars for $150.
	Apparently the difference is $30 billion versus $18 billion.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	$30 billion, jeez.
	Right?
	Is that money maker?
	What's going on?
	Yeah, although taxes now are screwing all the guys who thought they were making all the dough.
	Anyway, that's why illegal weed in California is still bigger, probably money-wise, than the legal stuff.
	Oh, of course, of course.
	I think everywhere, not just California, everywhere.
	Yeah, well, they're overtaxing.
	Yes.
	And then they won't let these guys get bank accounts.
	I mean, the whole thing is like a joke.
	So we went to Nashville.
	Yeah, I heard that.
	For the meetup.
	How was it?
	How many people?
	I'd say there were close to a hundred.
	And this was at the same roller rink where we were supposed to have it last year.
	Yeah, did you go roller skating?
	Are you crazy?
	No, of course not.
	No.
	No, absolutely.
	I don't go skiing anymore.
	I don't do snow.
	I'm 58.
	This is exactly what I don't need.
	Oh, jeez.
	Well, 58's the new 38.
	Oh, okay.
	At least I get out of the house.
	I get out of the house.
	I went out of the house.
	Well, really?
	To the backyard?
	To shoo away some dogs in the yard.
	There are so many people who really, really want to see you.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like Damien.
	You pack them in.
	You pack them in literally.
	Sir Patrick Scoble is now coordinating, who of course organized a fantastic event.
	Dame Jennifer was there, you know, really making everything so smooth.
	The whole production was great.
	Dame Meowdeson, Dame Christina Pearl, her husband came.
	A lot of people came down from Indiana.
	To Nashville.
	Those Indiana people are really something.
	They're incredible.
	But you've got fans, man, and they really want to put together the train meetup or the train museum meetup or something.
	There's a big museum in the Midwest someplace.
	I'd go to that.
	Okay.
	Well, which one is that?
	I'd have to look it up.
	They keep talking about it.
	It's a monster, big museum.
	It's got some gear that nobody else has, and it's supposed to be pretty interesting.
	Okay.
	Well, maybe Sir Patrick Colbert can make that happen.
	I'll look it up.
	Make it happen, yeah.
	You can count on me.
	You know who else was there?
	The Canadian refugees in their bus?
	Do you remember the Canadian refugees?
	Yeah.
	That's funny.
	I mean, they got five kids in that bus.
	Well, yeah, I mean, you recall that they're practically running from the law, you know, but one of them, you know, one of the new kids, I think a lot of them are adopted, if most, if not all, I'm not sure.
	Well, at least they're well-fit.
	Wow, you are really, really, I mean, you have such heart for everyone this morning, don't you?
	Yeah.
	Can I tell you a funny travel story?
	Yes, that's what we're here for.
	So, because there is no direct flight from either Austin or San Antonio to Nashville, which would mean Southwest Airlines to, well, pick your poison, with a possible layover, which, I don't know if you heard the news yesterday.
	You probably didn't.
	No.
	So we went out on Monday.
	And we, of course, we would want to come back preferably Tuesday and not necessarily Wednesday.
	Well, here's what happened on Tuesday.
	A computer glitch at Southwest Airlines caused more than 2,200 flights to be delayed today.
	Southwest was forced to ground its entire fleet this morning, frustrating flyers.
	The software malfunction lasted less than an hour.
	Yeah, less than an hour, but you know exactly how that goes.
	So that would have screwed everything up.
	Who knows if I would have even been back on time.
	And to circumvent that exact problem, I saved up months worth of my instrument flying lessons so we could fly there.
	I could fly us with the instructor.
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	Take an instruction lesson and might as well go there.
	Yes, but check it out.
	So, Tina has never flown with me.
	I don't think she's ever been in a four-passenger aircraft.
	Now, these are modern aircraft, but it's small.
	It's like a car that flies.
	So we in the morning we drive to Gillespie Airport which is seven minutes away and we get all set to go and we were in the end you know there's there's a run there's one runway at this airport and you can land either way depending on the wind and it's a it's uncontrolled airport so you kind of decide what you want to do and the pilots talk to each other.
	So we are waiting by the runway where we would be next to enter the runway in in a 07 direction But we're waiting for a small Cessna to land, who decided 1-4 was the direction that this person was going to take.
	So it's landing towards us.
	And we're just watching, we're waiting.
	Okay, we're almost on the runway, we're waiting.
	And it lands, it bounces up, and it crash lands right in front of us.
	That's fabulous.
	And Tina says, I didn't need to see that.
	That is the greatest story, especially for somebody who's not been up in a little plane.
	And the female pilot, she was okay, but she bounced up like 30 feet in the air, John.
	Oh, geez.
	And she You know, landed really hard.
	Clunk.
	The gear collapses, the plane starts to nose over, you know, it's like... Oh, did it flip?
	It didn't flip, didn't flip.
	Oh, okay.
	And Tina's like, it's okay, we'll still go.
	I'm like, are you kidding me?
	You are possibly the bravest passenger ever.
	I had never even seen anything like that.
	That was crazy.
	So, that takes an hour, of course.
	That's hilarious.
	I knew you'd get a kick out of it.
	Yeah, I can just imagine.
	It was not a happy start.
	So then we fly, we got the tailwind, so like three and a half hours, and then we're at Nashville, at an airport, a smaller airport near Nashville, and we're at 8,000 feet descending down, and then all I hear is, Like Southwest, oh, there's air traffic control controls us.
	Southwest Airlines going, uh, yeah, you know, that's not, uh, moderate, uh, that's not moderate, uh, turbulence.
	We'd appreciate a heads up.
	You know, my passengers are pretty surprised by that.
	And I'm like, oh crap.
	That's a good one.
	And it is horrible.
	Where is it?
	Oh, we're bouncing all over.
	People were complaining in the hotel.
	People were saying, yeah, it was really rough coming in.
	So imagine that on a... Yeah, on a small plane.
	It's got to be hilarious.
	Oh, poor Tina, man.
	At a certain point, she had my jacket over her head.
	She just didn't want to see the wings.
	Oh, please.
	Oh, poor girl.
	Yeah.
	I am.
	She is so badass.
	And she said, no, it's in God's hands.
	I'm good.
	And then, you know, she happily went back.
	She even flew back with us and she'd do it again.
	It was just a little.
	Sure.
	Why not?
	It was safe.
	It was a little too long for, you know, the comfort because, you know, we don't have it.
	No, no toilet facilities on board.
	Yeah, you always got to consider that.
	Anyway, I'm sure we'll be talking more about that on Curry and the Keeper.
	There's a lot more to it.
	But that was the highlights of the travel.
	It was so great.
	So many people who have been around so long.
	Even Jeff Smith showed up.
	Yeah.
	The one and only Jeff Smith.
	It was a great meetup.
	Did you get a jingle out of him?
	You are just possibly the worst human being.
	You might as well get a jingle out of him.
	You'll be happy to know we do have some donations, which we'll be discussing.
	Oh, there it is, now he's happy.
	Okay, so everybody, here's the news for this morning in case you missed it.
	It blowed up!
	Elon Musk's 420 launch.
	Did you see any of this?
	Have you seen a good movie of this thing blowing up?
	No, but what happened is it just started tumbling when the main thruster or booster was supposed to separate and just starts turning and turning and then the whole thing, you know, lights up on fire.
	It was great because Gene, you know, he's crazy about this.
	I mean, he wants to live with Elon.
	Sir Gene.
	And so he's texting me, oh yeah, a few minutes to go!
	And I'm, you know, I'm getting the show ready.
	And then he's texting me, blifft off!
	And then...
	I don't hear anything from him.
	And then I get the clips start coming in.
	Here's an example.
	Everybody's laughing.
	Is that separation?
	So there's two big pieces of this rocket.
	There's the Starship itself and there's the booster underneath.
	The booster had those 33 engines at about 2 minutes 50 seconds.
	They were supposed to separate.
	Where that booster is done, it goes back to Earth.
	And then the Starship's engines light and go.
	But that separation between those two really big pieces did not happen.
	And so then it is tumbling as both pieces together tumbling around and clearly with the engines led to explosions on the vehicle.
	You know some I mean I'm sure everyone is really is disappointed in some ways but this is very much a test and this Starship project takes very audacious steps for good reason because it's the ship that will take us to the moon.
	The biggest goal for them was to make sure they cleared the launch pad so the launch pad could be used again Listen to how the message is changing here.
	Even with the explosions we just saw, you're saying this is a victory for them because they cleared the launch pad and this is going incrementally in steps.
	Absolutely.
	You know, everything from the fueling to being ready to go, sensor systems, you know, all those kinds of things.
	All those things went well.
	Engines leaving the launch pad.
	But what's really important about leaving the launch pad, it sounds silly, but if you damage that launch pad, you can't try again very quickly.
	And that's, this is their, their modus operandi is to fail.
	If you blow up the rocket, you're not going to try quickly either.
	Wait, listen to this modus operandi.
	You can't try again very quickly.
	And that's, this is their, their modus operandi is to fail.
	Well, not to fail, but to basically fail often.
	Take big steps so that you can actually take those steps and see.
	No, I don't, I don't agree with that.
	That's not, that's no one's modus operandi.
	Who is this spokeswoman?
	Uh, she's a, um, she's a SpaceX spokeswoman.
	This is on ABC.
	Oh, yeah, obviously.
	She's terrible.
	Fire her.
	Wait, maybe this is, maybe it isn't her.
	Maybe this is, uh, anchor Katie.
	No, I think this is Katie Coleman.
	Yeah.
	Operandi is to... Why is she apologizing for the company?
	Because she's the ABC Space Girl!
	That's, this is their, their modus operandi, is to fail.
	Well, not to fail, but to... Oh, get off the stage!
	Fail often.
	Take big steps so that you can actually take those steps and see if you can leap ahead as opposed to step, you know, tiny step by tiny step.
	And so they took a lot of big steps with this launch.
	They have vehicles ready to go.
	Starships and boosters ready to put on that pad again.
	I can't say how soon, but that's what's different about the way SpaceX thinks is, you know, let's take some big steps.
	SpaceX thinks different.
	They think failure.
	No, they don't.
	Yeah, we want to blow things up because you learn a lot more.
	Look, I mean... 60 years ago, we went to the moon, remember?
	How come Elon can't do it?
	What, because he wants to take big steps but not big enough?
	One that we can replicate that is almost 60 years ago?
	I mean, this is kind of playing into my theory.
	If you don't mind me saying.
	What's your theory?
	That we never went to the moon.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Like you don't know my theory.
	Well, you have a ton of theories.
	I thought you were going to talk about using water as gasoline.
	Meanwhile, they keep gaslighting us with this.
	This morning, the Pentagon has revealed it's now tracking more than 650 potential cases of unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAPs, commonly known as UFOs.
	That number ups significantly from 350 reports referenced earlier this year.
	But officials stress they found no evidence of alien activity.
	Arrow has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology, or objects that defy the known laws of physics.
	The majority of unidentified objects reported to Arrow demonstrate mundane characteristics of balloons, unmanned aerial systems, clutter, natural phenomena, or other readily explainable sources.
	During a Senate hearing yesterday, officials played this video of an object behaving in a way they initially could not explain.
	But after analyzing the video frame by frame, they determined this.
	This is the heat signature off of the engines of a commuter aircraft that happened to be flying in the vicinity.
	Also played at the hearing, this video of an unresolved case showing a small orb spotted near a U.S.
	drone flying in the Middle East last year.
	Officials say cases like this are hard to resolve because there's only video, no other data.
	UAPs have faced new scrutiny in the months after the Chinese spy balloon was shot down off South Carolina.
	And now, according to a recently leaked U.S.
	intelligence report, China has manufactured a high-altitude spy drone capable of flying at three times the speed Submit them to science for research!
	I love that little ball that's shot underneath that one movie.
	See that thing?
	No.
	This is a new thing.
	He's talking about the orb.
	faux enthusiasts not to just post images on social media, but to submit them to scientists for research.
	Submit them to science for research.
	I love that little ball that shot underneath that one movie.
	Which one?
	See that thing?
	No.
	He's talking about the orb.
	Oh, the Tic Tac thing?
	It wasn't a Tic Tac.
	I don't know what it was.
	They had somebody shooting a, I think from, I don't know, from a satellite or something.
	Yeah.
	They were following some drone and then this little ball, cute little round chrome ball goes shooting across the screen.
	Yeah, Project Blue Beam.
	Ah, there we go.
	So, I've learned a new term.
	Which I think we should incorporate.
	It can be exclusive to the No Agenda Show.
	It came from one of our producers, who says, you and John, as usual, have done a better job than anyone else at outlining a classic dangle up.
	What?
	A dangle up.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	You put in all the right clips to show this was a long-term dangle.
	What's a dangle?
	Like a dangle?
	Well, let's read on.
	And then used at the time when it becomes appropriate.
	In the old days, we used to use dangle ops only against our adversaries.
	I guess this is like a... Adversaries.
	Adversaries, thank you.
	I guess it's more like what Whitney Webb would call a limited hangout, but maybe the real term...
	Maybe the real term is dangle up, and I'm starting to think that sounds a lot more logical from one of our producers.
	Now where does this come from?
	This guy sounds like he's working in somewhere.
	Yes, I will read on.
	The tactics here appear to have more to do with bureaucratic score settling than policy, with some political influence as well.
	It's not just cover your ass on Ukraine.
	It's not just pushing some form of the Restrict Act.
	Or, could it be, in my experience with the boys in Fort Meade and at Langley, from my times in Southwest Asia and Southern Africa and Central America in the 80s and early 90s, was to never underestimate their ability to confuse mission with bureaucratic advancement.
	This dangle op is beautiful.
	It helps to fight, even if not successful, the blowback on the Restrict Act, It provides a counter to the Ukraine narrative which is falling apart, at least politically.
	D.O.D.
	gets nailed.
	The White House get nailed.
	But who doesn't get nailed?
	Well, obviously.
	The CIA.
	No, they're good to go.
	Dangle up.
	There's our show title.
	It's right off the bat.
	I really like this, and taking that in mind, and of course... I'm sorry, it just comes to mind.
	It's like dangling, you know, carrots.
	It's like dangling some shiny object.
	You dangle it.
	Yes, correct.
	And you get attracted to whatever's being dangled.
	You go, oh, oh, what's that?
	And then you keep walking towards it.
	A shiny object!
	It's a shiny object and we're walking towards it because it's shiny!
	So what I've noticed is, and again, you know, you were gonna send me all the papers that you've seen, but I still haven't seen... No I didn't, I never said that!
	You said you've seen so much and it's all out there.
	I've seen them, it doesn't mean I've got them to send you!
	Okay, I have not seen all the things that are being discussed.
	So as a dangle op, I completely agree With our, our operative in this case, that this is, this is going, this is an operation that you can shove anything into.
	We kind of, as we said, he gave, he complimented us, you guys figured it out.
	In fact, did you know that the No Agenda Show is the best podcast in the universe?
	It's in the leaked documents.
	Also in the Mueller Report, if you recall.
	Yeah, well we know that.
	I didn't know it was in the leaked documents, but now that you mention it.
	And who discovered all this?
	Who found this kid?
	This, oh we got some great, we have so many cool producers.
	I have a bunch of notes too, and there's a lot of it.
	I want to throw one out there right away, which is that somebody claims that I disparaged The National Guard.
	I don't think you did.
	Well, what I said was I thought that because he was in the National Guard or whatever he was in the, you know, the Reserves.
	He was not as good as a full-time Air Force guy, and I said it in such a way that it was disparaging to one of our National Guard listeners.
	No, I think that's just people being sensitive because they get that crap all the time.
	Oh, you're National Guard, you're not real.
	Even though they deploy more... Meanwhile, they're the ones that get shipped off.
	Yeah, they're the ones that go to Ukraine, exactly.
	Hey, wait a minute, I'm not real?
	What am I doing here?
	One of our former law enforcement officers from California wrote in and said, the federal raid on the leaker with the SWAT team, having the suspect turn around and walk backwards, is obvious the FBI was told to make a big show of force in an effort to dissuade any future leakers.
	This was just a show of force, pre-planned and intentional.
	The news being aware was part of it.
	The news helicopter.
	The tactics of how the suspect was handled is commonly known as high-risk or felony contact, where the cops don't go and engage the suspect.
	Instead, they make them walk backwards towards them.
	The point being to gauge the suspect's level of cooperation and allow the officers the greatest advantage to a potentially dangerous person.
	Was this necessary?
	No, especially since this was a non-violent crime, a digital crime.
	But again, this was a sledgehammer response used specifically to send a message that they are serious And don't try this or this could be you.
	Now I disagree with that.
	To me this is all theater and I think we pretty much deconstructed on 1547 that this is being used for anything that they need to throw out there and it's when I hear this piece this is from This was Josh Rogan from the Wall Street Journal.
	Wall Street Journal who discovered this, if you recall.
	Josh Rogan?
	Yeah, R-O-G-I-N.
	I have a feeling that the Wall Street Journal is in on this.
	Because when you hear... I've never heard a reporter from the Wall Street Journal doing the rounds, but now he is.
	And here's another little tidbit that he picked up from the leaked documents, which I have not seen, other than that we are the best podcast in the universe, and I think this is being used, in this case, by military-industrial complex, or the money people, money people, to get more money because China.
	And there's the stuff that we should have known about.
	This is what I reported on, Glenn, that China has tested a new hypersonic missile that can defeat our aircraft carriers and our missile defense.
	In other words, we spent 30 years building aircraft carriers and missile defense, and the Chinese built a missile for one hundred thousandth of the price that makes those things obsolete.
	That seems kind of important for people to know.
	Why were we hiding that?
	That was in the documents.
	I brought that out.
	I think that there's a lot of stuff in the documents that American people should know because it reveals that the world is changing fast and our government really is on top of it.
	Now listen to him.
	Here's the pitch.
	It does make a difference, because usually I would say, hey, we don't need to release everything that they have, knowing what they have.
	But I think there is, you hit it on the head, there is a need for the American people to understand the world is about to dramatically change, and the United States is sitting around with its hands in its pockets.
	Right.
	So maybe we should... I think Glenn Beck has also been read in, actually, now that I hear him set this up.
	OK.
	To build more aircraft carriers, and maybe we should build the stuff that fights hypersonic missiles, because that's what our enemies are shooting at us, OK?
	Correct.
	And how far do these missiles fly?
	And they're hypersonic, which...
	I've just heard last week or the week before that we now have one, but I don't know if I believe that.
	This is a hypersonic, which makes it almost impossible to take down, right?
	Right.
	It's hypersonic, which means it flies faster than sound, but it's also a hypersonic glide, which means you can maneuver it.
	So when we shoot up the missile defense, all we have to do is maneuver around it.
	And they can also maneuver it to hit our aircraft carriers, basically as far as Guam.
	Half the Pacific is now, you know, no entry for our aircraft carriers if they decide to use these things.
	That's a huge problem for Taiwan, but not just for Taiwan, for the entire South China Sea.
	They're basically taking over Asia while we're sleeping, okay?
	And now I'm not saying that we should buy hypersonic missiles to fight hypersonic missiles.
	I'm saying that we should buy the things or build the things that defend against What's that?
	It doesn't matter!
	He's just saying, we need to do, we need to spend the money!
	Spend the money!
	Spend the money!
	And, by the way, his little commentary there, hypersonic is flying faster than the speed of sound, is not hypersonic.
	I mean, you'd think he'd have the, at least he's gonna have this kind of lingo.
	No, that's supersonic.
	That's supersonic.
	Hypersonic specifically means five times the speed of sound.
	Right.
	Supersonic is faster than the speed of sound.
	Is one time.
	Right?
	Yeah, it would be.
	So CBS, obviously, they're all in on it because they are the CIA broadcasting systems.
	And Pixie Girl is reporting.
	Catherine Herridge has an update on the case.
	Handcuffed as he entered the Boston court, 21-year-old Jack Teixeira, now charged under the Espionage Act, stared into space.
	Since the Air National Guardsman was arrested by heavily armed federal agents outside his mother's Massachusetts home, bipartisan outrage has built on Capitol Hill over the leaked Pentagon records posted online.
	I think it's stunning.
	Today, a private briefing by the nation's top intelligence official seemed to raise more questions.
	I certainly wasn't satisfied with any plans they have in place to prevent this from happening in the future.
	I think a lot of us wondered, you know, how a 21-year-old airman gets access to all of this information.
	He had a top-secret clearance.
	Oh!
	Traveling overseas, Defense Secretary Austin revealed Teixeira did have extraordinary access and computer privileges because of his military job.
	This young man was a systems administrator.
	A dude named Ben!
	Yeah!
	He was a computer specialist that worked in an intelligence unit.
	Now that Air National Guard Intelligence Wing's mission is suspended.
	As government investigators...
	How does that work?
	All of a sudden they just shut down the guys who were adminning stuff?
	It's been stopped?
	It's over?
	It's done?
	Our National Guard intelligence wing's mission is suspended as government investigators probe the potential damage to sources and methods like human spies and wiretaps.
	The breadth of the information that's been leaked is problematic.
	Former senior counterintelligence official Bill Evanina told CBS News the classified records will undergo a painstaking review.
	They're going line by line through these documents as part of the damage assessment.
	Line by line.
	And we let the agency who provided that information, or multiple agencies, look at it with their experts to be able to say what was in there and where do we get it from.
	I'm just not seeing all these documents.
	I'm hearing reports about it.
	I mean, if it was out on the internet, where is it?
	I just, I'm not seeing all of this stuff.
	I didn't see any intel about Chinese hypersonic missiles.
	I have not seen that.
	And poor ABC, they have nothing.
	Somebody saw them, but not you, huh?
	That's what I mean.
	Yeah.
	People would always send this stuff to me.
	Always.
	And I've asked for it since the last show.
	Nothing.
	I'm just not seeing all this information you're talking about.
	I'll try to get you some stuff.
	Okay, okay, you heard it here first.
	This time I'm not making a promise, I'm making a pledge.
	Okay, just find the Chinese missile stuff.
	The hypersonic missile.
	Then I'll be happy.
	I don't think it's out there.
	Here's ABC.
	They have nothing.
	They're not read in.
	So what are we gonna do?
	This morning, there's word that a pro-Russian blogger may have played a key role in the spreading of classified documents.
	Yeah, we got a Russian thing!
	What?
	Is that old?
	And we're not doing that game anymore?
	Allegedly leaked by a young Air National Guardsman in Massachusetts.
	According to the Wall Street Journal, on April 5th, a social media account... Again, Wall Street Journal.
	...with a name translating to The Dawn Bass Girl, posted four of the allegedly leaked classified documents to its 65,000 followers.
	The Wall Street Journal says that social media account is overseen by a former U.S.
	Navy officer in Washington State.
	Wait a minute.
	The Dawn Bass Girl is not real?
	It's overseen by someone in Washington State?
	Did I understand that properly?
	I don't even know anything about the Dunbass girl.
	Yeah, she's been around, posting stuff.
	That's the one who kept showing up and then she was dead and then she was a teacher, I think is not the one?
	Like I said, I don't know anything about the Dawn Bass girl.
	Posted four of the allegedly leaked classified documents to its 65,000 followers.
	The Wall Street Journal says that social media account is overseen by a former U.S.
	Navy officer in Washington State, whose actions reportedly prompted several large Russian social media accounts to pick up on the documents.
	ABC News has not confirmed the journal's reporting.
	Is this the girl who has grabbed as many documents as she can and posted them or shipped them to Russia?
	I have no idea.
	There's something like that going on.
	Do you think there's any chance that the Wall Street Journal getting all this stuff and there might be some quid pro quo between News Corp and the fact that they settled the Dominion suit?
	Oh yeah.
	And now they have to do this as penance or there's some hanky panky going on about that?
	Interesting.
	Is there any coincidence that the Minions suit, I use the word advisedly, any coincidence that the suit was settled but meanwhile the Wall Street Journal is stooging for the Pentagon for all these stories?
	There are no coincidences in intelligence.
	Or in government, probably.
	Yeah.
	I'm not quite sure how the quid pro quo works.
	They're still out $787 million.
	Or are they?
	$97 million.
	Oh.
	Hmm.
	Or are they?
	Oh.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	MSNBC is really pathetic if you thought ABC was bad. - Jen Psaki, inside with Jen Psaki.
	She's the worst.
	She has not... I'm ordering on banning her.
	Probably a good idea.
	The ratings have halved since the spectacular launch of the show.
	Of course, everyone sampled it and went... She's not a likable person.
	You know, TV people Especially the women, the women.
	They have to be likable!
	Yes, she's not, but it also, not just the likability, it's just dumb!
	Look for the country, dad.
	Hold on, why does this happen?
	Why do I only have one channel from you, Psaki?
	Hold on a second.
	I want to do this.
	Sorry, I had no idea.
	Let's see.
	What happened?
	Oh no, it's only one channel.
	Classified information could be shared by a 21 year old kid who simply wanted to show off.
	But you know what else is a bad look?
	When a 76-year-old former president is suspected of doing something pretty similar.
	Oh no!
	What?
	She's saying that it's a bad look when a 20-something, we've heard this consistently.
	Yeah, I think we've heard it to death.
	...does this and, you know, shows off the documents he's, uh, he's stolen.
	But you know what's even worse?
	A 76-year-old former president is suspected of doing something pretty similar.
	This week, the New York Times revealed that the special counsel in the Mar-a-Lago documents case is investigating, quote, whether former President Trump showed off to aides and visitors a map he took with him when he left office.
	A map?
	That contains sensitive intelligence information.
	We don't know what that map is of.
	But it's sensitive intelligence information!
	No, brother.
	Similar reporting from the Washington Post that investigators are scrutinizing whether Trump shared classified documents with political donors.
	Oh, crap!
	With political donors.
	Maybe to show off to them, too.
	And it comes after the Post also revealed that the FBI found highly classified nuclear secrets pertaining to a foreign nation at Mar-a-Lago.
	He bumped this.
	Who knows what exactly or how much information he might have shared or with whom?
	We don't know that yet.
	There's clearly a lot we don't know.
	But even at this early juncture, all of this begs the question of whether Donald Trump will be held to the same standard as a 21-year-old Air National Guardsman.
	It's not even a good outrage story.
	I mean, it's not good.
	It's not good at all.
	It's no good.
	They gave her the bottom of the barrel writers.
	Yes.
	Yes, I think you're right.
	I mean, that's all they had, was that?
	That's all they could do?
	She's probably not a good person to work with, you know, the kind of fiery redhead.
	And so she probably already badgered the writers.
	I mean, I can just see that back room.
	We're not going to do anything good for her.
	You mentioned that earlier.
	You think she's just not nice to the people she works with, huh?
	She seems that way.
	She's got that duplicitous smile.
	You know that little, that little, I'm gonna fix you eventually smile.
	Yeah.
	She doesn't seem like a nice person.
	She snaps.
	Yeah.
	And she's not a good host.
	I bet she's made some... She's not welcoming.
	I bet she's made some enemies along the way too.
	You know what I mean?
	Could be.
	I think so.
	I think she's probably made some good enemies.
	Okay, I see kind of the topics you have so I'm gonna do one that you don't have and then and this is I think this it's big in the news is... Artificial Intelligence!
	Oh my oh my oh my!
	I've got a one clip, a couple clips on that.
	Oh you do?
	Okay.
	But they're teasers because I... Oh good, let's do a teaser.
	Let's do a teaser.
	I got stuff.
	Okay, well let's listen to Scott Pelley on that stupid 60 Minutes report that everyone was all over.
	I just want to play a couple of his opening remarks to show you what a dumb report and an idiot this guy is.
	And I will do a complete deconstruction of that on the Sunday Show.
	We may look on our time as the moment civilization was transformed, as it was by fire, agriculture, and electricity.
	In 2023, we learned that a machine taught itself how to speak to humans like a peer, which is to say with creativity, truth, error, and lies.
	Oh, okay.
	Wow.
	Why don't you just throw up on the stage?
	Creativity, no less.
	Woo!
	Yeah, and lies!
	Idiot number two clip.
	Is only one of the recent breakthroughs in artificial intelligence.
	Machines that can teach themselves superhuman skills.
	Okay, what's a super... What in your mind... This could have been an Ask Adam.
	What in your mind is superhuman... What is superhuman?
	Flying faster than a jet plane?
	Or a speeding bullet?
	Speeding bullet?
	X-ray vision?
	Stopping a moving train?
	X-ray vision?
	Stopping a moving train?
	X-ray vision?
	Yes, I would say X-ray vision is good.
	I mean, if you could do large sums in your head, maybe, but computers do that.
	The only thing that's new here is these These LLMs, baby!
	I'm sure there's an LLM that's good for our organization.
	You gotta talk like that now.
	Large Language Models.
	That's what all the marketing kids are talking about.
	The big LLM.
	I would have done this whole thing that I'm going to do on Sunday today if I hadn't gotten so many clips on one other topic, which I think is more important and more newsworthy.
	But this report included the was based on a ton of lies.
	These Silicon Valley guys have buffaloed people like Scott Pelley who haven't got a clue.
	And Tucker Carlson, also no clue.
	Yeah, Tucker Carlson would be clueless.
	There is another thing I could have done.
	I'm going to do a lot of stuff.
	I keep promising I don't do it, but I'm going to do this.
	I'm going to take the Elon Musk interview with Tucker and cut it up so it makes sense.
	Well, I do have one clip from it today.
	Won't bother me at all.
	So just to hit the top line, I mean, what has happened here is Silicon Valley has unleashed their Kraken, unleashed the Kraken moment to raise capital in a declining advertising market and a possible larger than ever thought recession.
	And all of a sudden, oops, there was chat GPT, it got away from Elon, he had his eye off the ball, I think, and then this Sam Altman, is that his name?
	Sam Altman is the FTX guy.
	No.
	Is it Sam Altman?
	No, no, no, no.
	Now you're confusing me.
	Sam Freedman.
	That's Bankman Freed, yes.
	Bankman Fryde.
	Fryde, whatever.
	It's like Fryde sounds better.
	So Altman, I think it's Altman, you know, he basically launches this This marketing ploy, which is just dynamite.
	Oh, it's genius.
	And you know, oh no, and everyone's running around, all the consultants are going, oh, it's horrible, it's horrible.
	But they're desperate for a business model.
	I have not heard a business model yet.
	No one's going to pay for this.
	Yeah, of course.
	You know, I have to mention this.
	So in the 60 Minutes piece, one of the guys they bring in there is an AI guy, nut, AI nut.
	Yeah.
	And he says he had to do this and that to get into Google.
	He says, because what I really want to do is get into, and then they wrote, they do a voiceover, say he wanted to get into the Google, then they showed one of the data centers.
	And it was this monstrous data center that must cost a fortune to operate where BARF exists.
	It's also... I'm going to stick with your theory on this.
	This is too expensive.
	And they have no business model.
	People will have to pay for it if they want to use it.
	And they're going to have to pay a lot.
	And there's seemingly no way... I mean, it's not like they're gathering your most intimate thoughts.
	You know, you're saying, hey, write me some code, write me a thesis, write me this, make me an, oh, do a photo.
	This is a beautiful story.
	Now, a fierce debate has been sparked in the world of photography after an artist entered a photo competition with an image generated by artificial intelligence and won.
	The image shows two women, which So they have this guy on in a moment.
	entered into the creative category of the Sony World Photography Awards by German artist Boris Eldaxon.
	Eldaxon has refused the prize and said he submitted the image to find out if competitions would be prepared for AI images to enter.
	Now, so they have this guy on in a moment.
	Have you seen this picture?
	No.
	Oh, go look for the Sony Photo Award.
	You'll see these two women.
	People were sending it to me, you know, like KG saying... No one said it to me.
	KG saying, what do you think of this photo?
	I'm like, well, that's obviously AI.
	Look at the fingers.
	The left hand is like, her thumb is upside down.
	Hello.
	Look at The woman behind her face.
	It's obviously AI generated.
	At that point, I didn't know that Sony had given it the award for best photo.
	So that says something about the Sony judges for this competition.
	But this is a non-story.
	You look at this thing, you see it right away.
	Is this with a woman and a woman behind her?
	Yes!
	Look at the hand.
	Oh my God!
	The hand on the left, I'm sorry, her right hand and the woman behind is deformed.
	And then the other hand is coming off from some place in another town.
	And the thumb of her left hand is on the bottom.
	I see this right away!
	Oh my god, you're right!
	Looks like they were not, and the artist behind that picture joins me now, Boris Eldeksen, welcome to the day.
	Now, it's being reported that you revealed that the picture you submitted was AI-generated, but you were pretty upfront about it ever since you found out you were selected, weren't you?
	Yes, of course.
	It was not about winning anything, it was making a test.
	Trying to find out if the competition is prepared.
	And my mission was to create awareness for that.
	That we need to keep this in mind for the community that it's going to happen.
	It's going to happen on a much, much larger scale in the future.
	How did the organizers of the event react when you told them the picture was, in fact, not a photograph?
	Well, I offered them they could, like, give it to someone else.
	But if they don't, it would be good to have an open conversation for the public, yeah?
	Because it is something that is treasuring the photo community.
	The response was short.
	They were saying, you can keep it.
	And that was it.
	There was no response to my offer of having a discussion or conversation.
	Right, so they're so embarrassed as they should be, because anyone can see that.
	I'm disagreeing.
	This is a scam.
	They're not embarrassed.
	This was all done for publicity.
	I never heard of this competition before, now I've heard of it.
	This is bogus.
	That picture, just for, I don't care if the thumb's here or there or anyplace else, that picture sucks.
	It's not an award-winning photo.
	Well, I'm in agreement on that, too.
	No, it's not an award-winning film.
	This is the best they could do.
	Actually, it's pretty piss poor, the best they could do.
	I think Sony was in on this.
	This whole thing is a dipsy-do.
	It's bullcrap.
	Very possible.
	It's a publicity stunt.
	A dipsy-do.
	Oh, we're so embarrassed.
	We were fooled.
	Bullcrap.
	A dipsy-do.
	A dipsy-do.
	Okay, so here comes part of what I think is the real problem.
	And what Silicon Valley is so worried about, oh, we're all going to die.
	No, what's happening is you're eroding your existing business model of stealing people's content and charging users to view it, listen to it, etc.
	User generated content.
	Well, yes, they're happy taking the user-generated content, but when it comes to stuff that's licensed, Google pays an enormous amount of money to the record industry, the recorded music industry, in licensing to be used on YouTube and other avenues, as does Meta.
	Uh, they licensed that for their reels.
	You know, of course, that's what TikTok is all about.
	Part of what made them great is having all the license, all the music license for people to use.
	And now it's like, oh!
	You know the name, and with 14 number one hits, there's no mistaking superstar Rihanna's voice either.
	But this morning, major concern in the music industry as vocals from artists like Rihanna are artificially being worked into songs they've never even recorded, like Beyonce's hit, Cuff It.
	This rendition featuring Rihanna's voice made using artificial intelligence.
	And say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Call me something, something, something, something, baby.
	Hey.
	The A.I.
	version going viral on social media, notching more than 6 million views on Twitter.
	And Rihanna isn't the only one.
	Some artists, like David Guetta, even using A.I.
	themselves to add surprises to their set lists.
	And I went to another A.I.
	website that can recreate the voice.
	I put the text in that.
	The DJ playing an AI-generated sample of rapper Eminem's voice in front of a live audience.
	Get a clarifying on Twitter, obviously I won't release this commercially.
	Drake fed up after this hit from rapper Ice Spice got a Drake remake without his permission or an actual performance by him.
	Drake now calling it the final straw.
	Experts warn this technology could lead to major legal battles.
	When you put up a song, whether it's on TikTok or if you put it on through YouTube, well you're distributing music and then you may be subject to copyright laws or take down policies from those platforms.
	Now, Universal Music Group, home of artists like Katy Perry and Taylor Swift, asking streaming services to block AI companies from accessing its music.
	I think what you're going to see is the major labels and major label publishers come together and put a lot of pressure on the platforms to regulate AI-generated music.
	The major labels and publishers spend so much time, effort, money marketing these artists, they want to make sure that they're getting paid accordingly.
	Yeah, so that ship has left as far as I'm concerned.
	It's, yeah, when it comes to Silicon Valley where they have no way to make money off of this and it's cannibalizing their existing lock on industry because they can afford the licenses and now they're getting in trouble with the license holders.
	And the license holders are not happy.
	And it also shows you how pathetic this music is.
	It's all auto-tuned and almost AI to begin with most of it.
	It's pathetic.
	And notice that it's not creating a new Beatles band.
	You know, it's not creating the new Nirvana.
	No, it's taking old stuff, existing stuff, existing and putting a different artist's voice over it.
	It's not anything new and innovative.
	There's no human creativity in here.
	But oh, tell the kids about it as like they talk about on the social and more!
	What are the artists' rights in all of this now?
	This is where it gets really tricky.
	Because when AI generates something, whether that's a piece of art or a song, it's technically a new piece of content.
	So if I ask for a song in the style of Ariana Grande, it will make music that sounds exactly like hers, but it's not her music.
	And as it stands today, you can't copyright a vibe or an essence.
	So we might see some revisions to copyright laws or some rules as to what can and can't get included in training these systems.
	In fact, yesterday, Universal Music put out a big statement that none of their artists' work can be used to train AI systems.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Oh, no!
	It's just as bad as that photo.
	You know, compile something classical for me, something brand new.
	Not in the style of... That's all it can do is in the style of Shakespeare, in the style of this, in the style of Drake, in the style... Oh, in the style... Do a poem in the style of John C. Dvorak.
	How many times have someone sent that to you?
	So, there was a lawsuit, I think it was in the late 20s or 30s, and I think it still stands around as precedent.
	Bing Crosby, it's very well known in the music collector 78 people.
	He was a dick.
	Crosby was universally not liked.
	Bing Crosby sued a guy who sounded exactly like him and he was picking up a lot of voiceover work for commercials and other things and Crosby won the suit.
	Really?
	Huh.
	And that kind of thing is still valid.
	I think there's a lot of these things, like you can't use things for advertising, you know, you can't, it's just a lot of, you can't put somebody's, I can't put your picture on some advertisement for a car I'm trying to sell.
	No, you can't.
	So this is no different.
	I don't see the difference.
	This is just, you know, yeah, OK, you can you can find something that sounds just like Ariana Grande to create some bogus song, too, if you want.
	It's just it's a it's a tempest in a teapot.
	Precisely.
	And but from a rights perspective, there's going to be right.
	There's already several lawsuits.
	Now, Elon Musk is suing Microsoft that saying, well, they illegally scraped Twitter To train their AI.
	I mean, can you imagine the chat GPT 1, 2, 3, and 4 and auto GPT and all this GPT stuff has all been trained on Twitter conversations?
	Well, that's some solid data for you.
	Now this is, this is a... That's a lawsuit, that's a dubious lawsuit.
	But this is a Hail Mary from Silicon Valley, and Elon Musk shows his true Barnum Bailey self, PT Barnum self.
	I'm so convinced this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
	He's just a marketing guy.
	When he talked to Tucker about this, about Larry Page, and, oh, Larry and I don't talk anymore because we had a dispute over AI, and I said it was dangerous, we had to keep it open.
	No, man, you were boning his wife.
	We all know what happened.
	That's why he got in a fight.
	Remember that little story?
	Ah yes!
	Oh yes!
	No, now it was AI.
	The reason OpenAI exists at all is that Larry Page and I used to be close friends and I would stay at his house in Palo Alto and I would talk to him late into the night about AI safety.
	AI safety?
	At least my perception was that Larry was not taking AI safety seriously enough.
	What did he say about it?
	He really seemed to be... Get out of my house!
	He said, get off my wife is what he said!
	Get off my wife, get out of my house!
	He really seemed to be...
	What it wants is sort of digital superintelligence, basically digital God, if you will.
	Whoa, digital God!
	Yeah, there it is.
	As soon as possible.
	He wanted that?
	Yes.
	He's made many public statements over the years that the whole goal of Google is what's called AGI, Artificial General Intelligence.
	I don't understand something.
	Help me, and we'll continue this in a minute.
	If the whole goal of Google was the digital god, the general artificial intelligence, why did Google scramble and have to throw barf out there after Microsoft basically did something that was cute?
	I mean, wouldn't they be the leaders?
	Wouldn't they have it all ready and instead they throw up something that misses the mark?
	Oh, you mean the way they threw together Google Plus?
	Yes!
	Because they're always late to the game.
	Yes, precisely.
	I'll tell you why.
	Okay.
	Because Musk is full of crap about this.
	Yeah.
	He's made many public statements over the years.
	The whole goal of Google is what's called AGI, artificial general intelligence, or artificial superintelligence.
	And I agree with him that there's great potential for good, but there's also potential for bad.
	And so if you've got some radical new technology, you want to try to take set actions that maximize probably it will do good and minimize probably it will do bad things.
	Yes.
	It can't just be health leathers, just go barreling forward and hope for the best.
	And then at one point, I said, well, what about, you know, we're going to make sure humanity's okay here.
	Okay, what is this?
	What is this laughing?
	What is this autistic?
	He was thinking about Larry Page's wife.
	And then at one point I said, well what about, you know, we're gonna make sure humanity's okay here.
	I think you're right!
	Case closed!
	And then he called me a specious.
	Did he use that term?
	Yes.
	Now, why is this so hilarious?
	Aspecious, meaning that he only likes species or something?
	No, no, aspecious is the term for developing an argument as bullcrap.
	Well, he said he was aspecious.
	Oh, he says he was aspecious?
	Yes, as in species.
	Oh, so they thought that was hilarious?
	That's not funny at all.
	Well, aspecious... Well, that's like being an ageist.
	Speciesist.
	Speciesist.
	Okay.
	It's in here.
	Oh, that's the assumption of human superiority leading to the exploitation of animals.
	People who don't like animals.
	Humans who hate animals.
	Does it say humans who hate animals?
	Yeah.
	Speciesist.
	Speciesist.
	Alternative.
	Here's the...
	Yeah.
	Speciesism.
	Speciesism.
	The assumption of human superiority leading to the exploitation of animals.
	Speciesist definition by the Free Dictionary.
	Let's do that.
	Well then how does that even fit into the conversation in context?
	Intolerance or discrimination on the basis of species especially is manifested to cruelty to or exploitation of animals by humans.
	This is why I didn't think it was funny.
	Well, it doesn't make sense.
	It's not only not funny.
	And there were witnesses.
	I wasn't the only one there when he called me a specious.
	His wife.
	And so, I was like, okay, that's it.
	Yes, I'm a specious, okay?
	You got me.
	Oh, you are?
	Okay.
	What are you?
	You got me.
	Yeah, I'm fully specious.
	Busted.
	He's got like Kamala's cackle problem.
	That was his last straw.
	At the time, Google had acquired DeepMind, and so Google and DeepMind together had about three quarters of all the AI talent in the world.
	They obviously had a tremendous amount of money.
	Yeah, so, a question.
	What happened to Deep Mind?
	What happened to Deep Blue?
	Remember IBM?
	Oh, Deep Blue beat the World Chess Champion.
	Oh, that's the end.
	Yeah, once they did it, they didn't need to do anything anyway.
	Retired.
	Well, didn't they create an entire business line that went nowhere?
	And they had to basically shelve it because it wasn't working?
	Watson.
	Watson!
	That's what it was.
	Watson.
	The road to Silicon Valley is littered.
	Because it didn't work.
	No!
	Watson probably stems from the old 80s flop, AI flop, and this is just a new version of it.
	Yeah.
	Only this one's gotten a little more traction because it's caught everyone flat-footed.
	I don't know.
	This is the strangest thing I've ever seen.
	Well, this reminds me a lot of another canard.
	I mean, I even went to Boston and stood in line to get one of the first ones because this was it.
	He could recognize your handwriting.
	He could understand what you meant.
	The Newton.
	The Newton.
	Not Newtown.
	That's probably what it should have been called.
	The Newton.
	I said the Newton.
	No, I said Newtown.
	The Newton.
	Well, hey, let's go back to Google.
	Google Goggles.
	Google Glasses.
	Another great product!
	These idiotic Google Glasses that everyone was wearing.
	Right after Scoble was wearing them in the shower.
	This is why I keep telling you, when Scoble is all in on something, that means it's bullcrap.
	And he is going crazy with AI.
	It's the new god.
	It'll help you kick your alcohol habit, your addiction.
	I mean, he's saying all of it.
	He's saying these things.
	No!
	Anybody who... in the music business will hear... I mean, you hear it!
	Human beings can hear when things are just... not human!
	Just not human.
	I don't think any of these songs are impressive.
	And that goes for a lot of this music in general.
	I'm sure a musician may be able to use some so-called AI to create something, just like you can create some code.
	And some writing.
	Yeah, you can do augmentation.
	But no one wants to deal with the augmentation aspect.
	They think it's going to be stand-alone monster!
	I think augmented intelligence is probably a better term.
	Just like, you know, virtual reality didn't work, so then it was, oh, it's augmented reality.
	So you have some stuff pasted over it.
	That's exactly what this feels like.
	Nothing at all like, like we're being, you know, we're going to all, we're all going to, like Scott Pelley, oh, we're all going to die from the evil human machine.
	And Elon Musk is in on this scam.
	He probably needs to raise some money for it too.
	Elon Musk is in on it for a different, not because he believes any of it.
	No, I think he's in it because he needs to raise money from time to time.
	There's money, there's money, money, money, money, this guy's good!
	Yes, I agree.
	There's money, money, money!
	I love the story about...
	Apple basically beating Elon to the punch.
	Remember Elon, he's building X.com and everyone's going to put their money into X.com.
	They're going to get interest or they can, if they want, go negative interest, which is also known as a loan.
	And they will be able to pay each other all through this fabulous TruthGPT app, formerly known as Twitter, now as X. And Apple comes along and says, oh, you know what?
	We're going to give you 4.15% interest.
	Just put your money into Apple Pay.
	How about that?
	I think they beat him to the punch.
	We talked about this on DHM Plugged.
	There was a... I couldn't find any evidence that they won't let you do this on anything other than an iPhone.
	That's my concern.
	No, you have to... Yes, an iPhone and you have to have the Apple credit card.
	You have to have both, I think.
	Yeah, of course.
	Duh!
	I think it's illegal.
	In what way?
	Vertical integration, there's all kinds of, it's antitrust.
	You can't do that.
	I don't think, I don't think it's the, I think somebody who's a smart lawyer can take this and say, no, you have to open this up.
	You can't have it just exclusive to your phone.
	No, I don't, I mean, I don't care.
	I don't want it.
	I think Elon may be a little irked because this was supposed to be his big thing.
	No, he's got plenty of time to make money.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	He might get devoured by the evil AI.
	That could happen too.
	We can only hope.
	All right.
	Let me guess.
	You wanted to talk about the Robert Kennedy Jr.
	announcement for running for president.
	Was that your big story?
	No, my big story is that I've come to the conclusion, I've got evidence.
	I do have that though, I do have that.
	Yes.
	But I have evidence that they're out to get Joe.
	Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
	In a concerted way.
	And the concerted way involved, I've got two sets of clips.
	And what makes it obvious to me that something's up is one of the set of clips is from Democracy Now, all anti-Joe.
	And one of the sets is from CBS.
	Stuff I never thought I'd ever hear on CBS.
	And today, I might add, As we may have low numbers listening to the show, because on today's Jennifer Hudson Show, which started at 11 when our show started.
	Oh no!
	Kamala Harris!
	Oh, she's out there promoting herself?
	She's out there.
	They're doing the last testing.
	If they can, if she can just get to a certain point, they're going to pull the plug on Joe and put her in.
	And that's my thesis.
	Literally pull the plug.
	Literally pull the plug on Joe.
	Maybe.
	But I want to start, I'm trying to think where I should start with the CBS stuff.
	But I think I'm going to start with the, with the Democracy, since you played the clip for Democracy Now.
	This is an HHS scandal that is really targeting Biden and this is extremely unbelievable as far as I am concerned and so far as Democrats going after Joe.
	The New York Times is reporting the Biden administration's repeatedly ignored or missed warnings about a surge of migrant children as young as 12 working in factories across the United States.
	The Times reports, quote, at least five Health and Human Services staff members filed complaints and said they were pushed out after raising concerns about child safety.
	Unquote.
	One of the HHS staffers told the New York Times, quote, I feel like short of protesting in the streets, I did everything I could to warn them.
	They just didn't want to hear it, she said.
	In February, the Times published a blockbuster report about child labor based on accounts by over 100 unaccompanied migrant children, mostly from Central America, who described grueling and often dangerous working conditions, including having to use heavy machinery, being subjected to long hours and late-night shifts,
	At facilities that manufacture products from major brands and retailers, like Hearthside Food Solutions, the makers of Cheerios, Fruit of the Loom, Whole Foods, Target, Walmart, J.Crew, Frito-Lay, and Ben & Jerry's.
	Others were forced to work as cleaning staff at hotels of slaughterhouses, construction sites, car factories owned by General Motors and Ford, in serious violation of child labor laws.
	On Tuesday, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was grilled about the Biden administration's response to forced child labor.
	This is Republican Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri.
	You're not going to take any responsibility for the indentured servitude and exploitation of children that is happening on your watch.
	A moment ago, you were crowing about the fact that you treated children so well, and yet we find tens of thousands of children who are forced to work as slaves because of your policies, and you turn around and blame a prior administration.
	Mr. Secretary, This is par for the course for you.
	You do it every time you appear before this committee.
	You do it every time you appear before Congress.
	I, for one, am sick and tired of it, and thousands of children are in physical danger.
	Danger!
	Because of what you were doing.
	You should have resigned long ago.
	And if you cannot change course, you should be removed from office.
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
	Yeah!
	Alright!
	Now here's the gravity of the situation.
	To imagine Amy Goodman playing a Hawley clip to his conclusion.
	- To his conclusion. - Yes, without scoffing at Holly.
	Yes.
	You know, and because Holly is a takedown artist, I mean, that's part of what he does.
	He makes soundbites.
	He wakes up in the morning and says, how can I make a soundbite on C-SPAN?
	And then to get it on Democracy Now!, I agree with you.
	That is, um, there, there's, that's, that's bad.
	That's bad, bad news for Joe.
	This, uh, well, yes, but let's go to clip two, and now they bring in the Pulitzer Prize winning writer for the New York Times, and she just lays, puts layer after layer of bad news.
	We're joined now by Hannah Dreyer, Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter at The New York Times.
	Her new investigation is headlined, As Migrant Children Were Put to Work, U.S.
	Ignored Warnings.
	Dreyer's earlier piece was headlined, Alone and Exploited Migrant Children Work Brutal Jobs Across the U.S.
	Hannah Dreyer, welcome back to Democracy Now!
	We had you on for your first blockbuster exposé, showing children as young as 12 working across the United States.
	Now you're reporting that the Biden administration knew about this.
	Not only knew about this and didn't do anything, they actually did do something.
	They pushed out those within the administration who were raising alarms.
	Can you talk about what you found?
	It's great to be with you, Amy.
	And yeah, just as you say...
	People were punished for bringing this to the attention of their supervisors.
	People say that they were fired, they were demoted.
	I spent a year talking to children who came to this country and are working in the most exploitative conditions, in factories, in slaughterhouses.
	I found these children in every single state in this country.
	And so after that story came out, I began asking, how could it have been that the Biden administration didn't know about this?
	And what I found was that actually they were given evidence, they were given warnings, there was sign after sign that this was happening for two years.
	And the administration really didn't spring into action until just last month.
	And you know, whenever they use children, they really mean business.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	Whenever it's something that's done to children, that did the same thing to Trump.
	You're ripping children out of mother's arms!
	Children in cages!
	Yeah.
	No, this is serious.
	And I'm telling you, this is a concerted effort.
	And when you see it on Democracy Now, and then CBS, when you hear the CBS clips, it's not about this.
	It's another thing.
	They're going after this guy.
	But listen to this clip.
	This part three is really interesting.
	And Hannah, I was particularly struck by the information about Susan Rice, the White House head of domestic policy, and her reaction to the reports that there were problems in terms of how these children were being treated.
	Could you talk about that?
	Because Susan Rice has been a person who's been in every Democratic administration over the last 30 years.
	Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and now Joe Biden.
	Right.
	Susan Rice is a hugely important figure, and she is Biden's top point person on immigration.
	So it's not, you know, some junior staffer at the White House who maybe got a warning one time and it didn't get, you know, channeled in the appropriate way.
	What I found is that Susan Rice's team was told about this again and again.
	And the kind of evidence we're talking about are clusters of children found to be working in different parts of the country, repeatedly, in these very industrial jobs.
	So these are children making car parts.
	These are children using caustic chemicals and acids to scrub a chicken plant.
	And those messages got to Susan Rice's level.
	Airing concerns about these issues got to Susan Rice's level.
	Her team was told, going back to, you know, the summer of 2021, that people were very worried about this.
	And what the White House has basically said is, well, maybe we saw these signs, but we didn't put it all together.
	What their response has been is sort of a lack of curiosity or a lack of conscientious thinking to realize that if we're seeing kids in all these different places who are doing these jobs, maybe there's a larger trend here.
	Maybe there's thousands of these kids out there.
	What companies are using these children?
	How is this happening in America?
	Well, they named names earlier.
	Frito-Lay, General Motors, Ford.
	Yeah, that's what I'd like to know, exactly.
	If you remember, before we started doing this show, I'm sure you recall this, there was a big stink, I think it was during the Bush administration or before that, a big stink about these migrants getting jobs.
	And there were laws against hiring any of them.
	And if you got busted hiring somebody that was a migrant, not even talking about children, You would find it heavily, but now it's not only illegal migrants, it's illegal migrant underage children working at these companies, making the country sound like a hellhole while we'll criticize China.
	Hey, guess what?
	Maybe it is a hellhole.
	If we got children working at Ford, screwing on hubcaps or whatever it is, or chemicals to clean horrible...
	Oh, they're giving them the worst kind of jobs.
	A hubcap job would be a plus.
	I need some evidence of this!
	Well, the New York Times covers it with a lot of evidence.
	And yet, one more thing, as based on my thesis that they're out to get Biden and they're going to get him before the end of this year, probably.
	Yeah, they must.
	This is the New York Times.
	This is a Democratic spokesperson for all practical purposes.
	They cover for the Democrats.
	And we're getting this kind of reporting.
	This is the last of these clips.
	Well, they did put it together sufficiently to force out five Health and Human Service staff members.
	Could you talk about some of those staff members and the alarms that they raised?
	These are the people who are running the unaccompanied minor program for Health and Human Services.
	One of the women who I spoke with, Jalen Zwalog, she helped build this program.
	She started working for the government in 2010, right when we first started to see these waves of children coming over.
	And she was in charge of this program for years and years.
	She was the highest official running the program when Biden took over.
	And what she says is she raised alarms.
	We've seen her emails where she's saying something catastrophic is going to happen.
	I'm pleading with somebody to pay attention.
	When her emails went unanswered, she went to Congress and she talked to Congress staffers and said, again, I'm really worried about what's happening here.
	These children are in danger.
	And she was pushed out.
	She was one of five people who I spoke to who filed complaints, who Showed me their emails where they're saying, you know, something really wrong is happening here.
	And they say that instead of being listened to, they were demoted.
	Wow, you're right.
	And they're going after Joe from all... I mean, how hard is it just to kill the guy?
	This seems like a lot of work.
	Well, this might be a lot of work, but it seems like to somebody who likes to take, you know, wings off of flies, it might be more fun.
	Well, they're taking a lot of wings off of a lot of flies with this.
	The whole Hunter Biden crime family is going down at this rate.
	Well, let's take, yeah, the Hunter Biden, let's move to CBS.
	Can I play a quick clip before you do this?
	Because it's just a positioning clip.
	Sure.
	I also had the CBS clip.
	You do them all.
	That's great.
	But this was on Hannity just to give you an idea of how phony the so-called news is from all sides.
	They have no shame.
	They're talking about the Biden crime family.
	Now listen to this guy and wait for the slogan.
	Do you believe the President of the United States is compromised by these countries that we know hate our guts?
	I'll answer the second question.
	I don't see how Joe Biden could not be compromised.
	I mean, these family members aren't energy experts.
	They weren't on boards.
	At least with Burisma, Hunter actually sat on a board.
	There are no other boards that we can find that these family members sat on.
	Certainly not the grandchildren and the nieces and the nephews and the in-laws and things like that.
	So what were they doing?
	Why were they getting this much money?
	It all points back to Joe Biden.
	And we're going to continue until we get the truth to the American people.
	But I can say this, Sean, the walls are closing in on the Biden family.
	How many times have we heard that about Trump?
	It's a tipping point.
	The walls are closing in.
	Is Fox News seriously going to use all these tropes now against Joe Biden?
	All of it's unwatchable.
	Most of Fox is unwatchable.
	All right, so we go to CBS and they got another whole different scandal.
	It centers around Hunter Biden a little bit, but it's more to it than that.
	And when they do it, they're not quite as blunt force trauma as Democracy Now!, but it's not bad.
	This is Hunter 1.
	Tonight there is breaking news in the federal criminal investigation into Hunter Biden's tax returns.
	An attorney for an IRS supervisor sent a letter to lawmakers today asking for whistleblower protection, saying his client has information that suggests the investigation is being improperly influenced by quote preferential treatment and politics.
	Here's CBS News Chief Investigative Correspondent Jim Axelrod.
	My client wants to come forward to Congress.
	He's ready to be questioned about what he knows and what he experienced under the proper legal protections.
	Attorney Mark Lytle's client is a supervisory special agent at the IRS who's prepared to tell Congress the investigation he's been working on has been hampered by what he thinks is special treatment.
	Typical steps that a law enforcement investigator would take were compromised because of political considerations.
	Lytle wouldn't talk in specifics, declining to identify either his client or the target of the investigation his client helped conduct.
	Can you identify him?
	I can't at this stage, Jim.
	But CBS News has learned the investigation the whistleblower worked on is about Hunter Biden.
	What we're doing is being completely cooperative.
	That was Biden two years ago, after the DOJ opened an investigation into his finances.
	The FBI collected what it believed was sufficient evidence to charge Biden with tax crimes, and last year sent its findings to the U.S.
	Attorney in Delaware.
	Since then, silence.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, typically whistleblowers don't get lawyers.
	That's the one thing I'd mention.
	And, you know, this lawyer keeps saying, well, you know, there's certain protections in place.
	But, I mean, you're a whistleblower, then there's a process you go through.
	It doesn't seem like they're going through the process.
	They are, in fact, dangling this out there.
	Yeah, could be.
	I mean, as far as I'm concerned, none of this is anything other than a kind of a concerted effort from different fronts to get Joe Biden out of office because he thinks he's going to run again and he's got to go.
	And so all this all these little nuances like you just described I don't think are as important to the whole overall view of things as might normally be the case.
	Well this is more than just he's gotta go.
	This is taking down the entire family.
	They're gonna take down Jill.
	I mean it's gonna be messy.
	Susan Rice?
	Susan Rice?
	I mean this is a real cleanup.
	In part two we got one more character mentioned that's gonna end up getting his tit in the ringer.
	Why can't your client talk to us directly at this point?
	There are laws that provide protection to whistleblowers, and he has to navigate that.
	Today, Lytle sent this letter to Congress, claiming his client could provide information that would contradict sworn testimony by a senior political appointee.
	I promise to ensure that he's able to carry out his investigation.
	CBS News has learned that was Attorney General Merrick Garland, who gave testimony about the Trump-appointed U.S.
	Attorney in Delaware conducting the Hunter Biden investigation.
	Can we be sure that this is the Democrat Party?
	This may be some other group that... Yes, we can.
	Okay.
	We can absolutely be sure.
	We're talking about CBS.
	Yes.
	And we're talking about Democracy Now!
	This is all fronts for the Democrat Party.
	This is the Democrat Party doing this.
	Well, CBS... There's no doubt in my mind.
	I mean, it could be the CIA, but they're the Democrat Party nowadays.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	So there's no doubt about this.
	The Republicans aren't as smart.
	They can't do this.
	You played the Hannity clip.
	That's the best we can do.
	That's the level they got.
	The walls are closing in.
	They got old memes.
	They can't even come up with something new.
	But what's cool about it is that they literally, that Amy took Josh Hawley.
	So, you know, they're using the Republicans in this case.
	Yeah, you can use Josh Hawley.
	He's a loud mouth.
	He's got good things to say.
	He's the kind of guy you can use to get the sound bite.
	You can probably get some from a few other guys.
	I mean, if you were going after the Pfizer, you'd get as much Rand Paul material as you could.
	This has, you know what this has?
	The Susan Rice thing has me bothered.
	And I'm going to go out on a limb.
	This is Obama.
	Obama is saying, get rid of her too.
	And the reason?
	He was in love with Susan Rice.
	Obama?
	Bull crap, man.
	No, she wrote that memo.
	Remember she had the memo to herself, her CYA memo?
	That was written on purpose.
	Obama probably advised her to do it.
	And he's getting rid of her because of Michelle running.
	I feel it.
	Michelle Obama's gonna win.
	Well, now that you've gotten off the deep end, we'll play clip three.
	We'll see.
	Lionel says neither he nor his client are motivated by politics.
	Would you find any evidence or allegation of a political agenda?
	No.
	To him, the truth is one truth and he wants to come forward with it.
	Lytle told us the whistleblower has been with the IRS for more than a decade and has extensive documentation to support his allegations.
	The things he's been through are very well documented in emails and other communications with the Department of Justice.
	We asked Mark Lytle if there's a chance his client can only see his slice of the investigation and not the big picture.
	He said that's possible, but that his client had expressed his concerns to superiors a number of times before seeking whistleblower status.
	Neither the IRS, Department of Justice, or a lawyer for Hunter Biden would comment.
	I'm putting it in the book.
	I'm putting it in the book.
	This is clean up, making room, because who else?
	Yeah, they may put Kamala in briefly.
	No, Kamala's in.
	She's the one.
	Yeah, until 2024.
	It's just temporary.
	No, when she's going to be the president and then she's going to run for re-election, it accomplishes a lot of things.
	For one, it accomplishes Just getting rid of the notion that Michelle would run at all.
	But I think it's more to stop Gavin Newsom in his tracks and his chances of being president.
	And I honestly believe the Democrats, because the more you watch this, if you don't listen to the other side, which we do both, so we see Kamala as a buffoon, but the Democrats don't see it that way.
	They see her as a smart, intelligent black woman.
	Nah, well, okay.
	All right.
	Talk to people on the street.
	Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	You were talking to people on the street?
	So Jennifer Hudson is going to make her look good and it's going to be one of the tests.
	They're grooming her!
	Yes, they are.
	I agree.
	But it's only getting everybody ready for Michelle.
	You can laugh all you want.
	Put it in the book.
	I'm putting it in the book.
	I'm putting it in the book.
	I'm not even putting it in the book.
	It's so ludicrous.
	Okay, you will eat them words.
	No, I won't!
	Yes, you will.
	You'll be crunching on those words.
	Well, while we're at it, since we're talking about this sort of thing, let's go and let me play another candidate.
	Let me play this and then you can play that.
	I have the announcement that I want to play a piece of.
	Oh, OK.
	Well, we're going to go to R.F.J.
	Jr.
	R.F.K.
	Jr.
	R.F.K.
	R.F.K.
	Who I met once.
	I met him in context of climate change, funny enough.
	When we were all with Kleiner Perkins at their Green Fund and we're all at the golf course.
	Oh, he was there!
	Yeah, what's that golf course, the famous one?
	Pebble Beach?
	Pebble Beach.
	Pebble Beach?
	Well, there's a lot of famous golf courses.
	Is that the one in California?
	It could have been the Olympic Club.
	Is Pebble Beach in California?
	Oh yeah, and Pebble Beach is Pebble Beach.
	That's the one.
	There's three courses.
	That's the one.
	And we had an away with all the founders of the companies and they embarrassed me by forcing me to play, which of course was horrible.
	But then Robert Kennedy Jr.
	was there with his wife and his The reason for there was, you know, it was still Special Olympics, what he was doing with his mom, but it had something to do with a Gore, and Gore's movie was played then for the first time before it was in theaters.
	And I spoke to him, he's a really nice guy, but, you know, really meek and quiet actually.
	I didn't know much about him at the time.
	So he announced that he is running for president, and he did a fun thing in this announcement.
	You know, he talked about misinformation, disinformation, how it's all bullcrap.
	Where'd you get this clip?
	Because most people, most mainstream wouldn't play it.
	No, I got it from the announcement video.
	I found the video and I clipped a piece from it.
	I thought it was interesting what he said because he literally compared himself to his dad when his dad ran for office.
	My father, 55 years ago last month, I sat as a 14-year-old boy behind my father as he announced in the Senate caucus room in Washington, D.C., his campaign for presidency of the United States.
	And my father at that time was in many ways in the same position that I'm in today.
	He was running against a president of his own party.
	Thank you.
	He was running against a war.
	He was running at a time of unprecedented polarization in our country.
	And he had no chance of winning.
	My father, when he declared, had not a single molecule in him that he believed that he could win the Democratic nomination.
	Why is that he had run his brother's campaign in 1960, eight years before?
	But now, all the unions were against him, with two exceptions, United Auto Workers and Cesar Chavez's United Farm Workers.
	The liberal press was 100% against him, from the New York Times to the Village Voice.
	The labor union, the big city mayors were against him, including Mayor Daley, who had played a critical role in President Kennedy's nomination.
	All the people in the New Frontier, who were his closest friends, were now working for the Johnson White House.
	So they were against him.
	The only people that he had with him, even the universities were against him, because they were with McCarthy.
	The group of Hollywood, like Joanne Woodward, Paul Newman, who had been very close to him, worked very hard for my uncle in the 60s, were now working for McCarthy.
	And my father, in the universities, my father used to say that McCarthy had all the A students and he had the B and C students.
	And so the only people he had were people, poor white people in rural areas like Appalachia, Port Wax, and in the Delta, and in our cities, in Watson, Harlem, and East LA, and Indians on the Indian reservations, and that was kind of it.
	But that hopelessness in his campaign freed him to tell the truth to the American people.
	Yeah, which is about the only thing he'll achieve is to be able to tell the truth to the American people.
	But no one will hear it.
	No, unless you watch Tucker.
	And I hate the comparisons he's making because we know it didn't end well.
	The Kennedys, I mean, they have a bad record.
	Well, first of all, that's my era when I was a Democrat.
	Good.
	Tell us about it.
	So I'm very familiar with what happened.
	Okay.
	Tell us what happened.
	The anti-war Democrats were on board big time with Eugene McCarthy.
	He was the guy everyone wanted to win.
	Kennedy came in and everybody, the reason he was, it wasn't because of whatever thing RFJ, RFJK Jr., RFK Jr.
	thinks.
	Oh?
	It was because, oh, Kennedy's just, he's just trying, because he's a bigger name than McCarthy, he's trying to steal his thunder.
	Stolen valor.
	So he was disliked for that reason because McCarthy was the guy everybody wanted.
	He was a super peacenik.
	And so the fact was is that the Democrat Party wasn't going to put him in either and I think everyone kind of knew that Kennedy would have gotten a nomination because nobody wanted George McGovern who finally got the nomination.
	How did that happen?
	He was a bonehead.
	So his interpretation and my recollection as a staunch Democrat at the time was different.
	And yeah, it didn't end well.
	I have to say, I like everything Kennedy says.
	I mean, I watched his announcement.
	I like it all, pretty much.
	I don't think I've heard anything I disagree with.
	I like it too.
	I would vote for him.
	I think he's a real threat.
	I think he's a real threat to Michelle Obama.
	You can leave that on the cutting room floor, please.
	No, no, no, why?
	I get thrown it in every time you bring up any topic.
	We're still on the same topic.
	We're on the same topic.
	It's more than valid for me to say this.
	Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you can dismiss it.
	No, if I don't agree, I can dismiss anything I want.
	Okay.
	Well, then I can say anything I want.
	It's a foregone conclusion.
	You've already pointed out that he can't get any ink.
	He's got on Tucker, which is like, that's no good.
	Well, what if he got some Democrats and a whole bunch of Republicans?
	He's getting nobody.
	Let's be honest about it.
	Okay, I guess he's getting nobody.
	Let's go to NPR and this is just the beginning.
	NPR is like the flack, what is it called, the shock troops.
	Storm troops, yes.
	The shock troops are coming in and let's go RFK Jr.
	NPR smear.
	A familiar name has entered the 2024 presidential race to challenge President Biden for the Democratic nomination.
	Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	He made his formal announcement earlier today in Boston.
	My mission over the next 18 months of this campaign and throughout my presidency will be to end the corrupt merger of state and corporate power that is threatening now Now, Kennedy isn't just a member of one of America's most famous political dynasties.
	He's also an anti-vaccine activist who's been criticized by his own family.
	NPR's Shannon Bond joins us now to explain more.
	Hey, Shannon.
	Hey, Elsa.
	So, OK, a lot of people, of course, know the Kennedy name, but can you remind us who exactly is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.?
	Sure.
	He's the nephew of President John F. Kennedy and son of Bobby Kennedy.
	And Robert Kennedy Jr.
	is a lawyer who was originally probably best known as an environmental activist.
	But as you said, he's not only become a central figure in the anti-vaccination movement, but he's also promoted other conspiracies.
	Wow.
	Do we have proof of this?
	I never heard that.
	He's a conspiracy nut.
	Wow.
	Anti-vaccine nut.
	Yeah, that's right.
	networks are being used to control people's behavior.
	Wow.
	Do we have proof of this?
	I never heard that, but he's a conspiracy nut.
	Wow.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Anti-vaccine nut.
	Yeah, that's right.
	No, in fact, the truth is that he was an environmental lawyer and he sued organizations that were putting mercury into our national waterways, chemical mainly from factories, etc.
	And it was getting into the fish supply and so he was suing people over that.
	And as he tells it himself, he kept seeing these women show up at all of his events and they were saying, hey, our children are being hurt by mercury in the vaccines, namely in thimerosal and other such adjuvants.
	And that was... Actually, that's not an adjuvant.
	I'm sorry.
	The Marisol is a preservative.
	Preservative, okay.
	But mercury in the vaccines, and he went after... The Marisol is mercury.
	Oh, there you go.
	It is mercury.
	So, and they were using that, and he went after those corporations.
	That's a far cry.
	In fact, he is explicitly not anti-vaccine.
	He was anti-COVID vaccine, yes.
	Because he, and he showed us, he read the documents, he showed it to us.
	He said this is why it's bullcrap and this is why they want it on the children's schedule.
	I don't know why you're so much against NPR.
	I'm sorry.
	So let's continue this smear.
	It's our national treasure.
	What am I thinking?
	With part two.
	Wow.
	OK.
	How did Kennedy wind up as a leader in the anti-vax movement, though?
	Well, he said he is not opposed to vaccines.
	He frames his criticisms as being about safety.
	You know, in his speech today, he didn't address vaccines directly, but he did raise concerns about chronic illnesses, autism, quote, poisoning our children.
	And these are all references to these debunked and false and misleading claims that he has promoted for years that undermine trust in vaccines.
	Most recently, during the COVID pandemic, he opposed vaccine mandates and other public health measures.
	He promoted unproven treatments such as ivermectin, you know, and that did result in some of his social media accounts being taken down for spreading false health claims.
	He says that's censorship.
	But the pandemic also did a lot to raise his profile, and so we're in this sort of strange place now where Kennedy is this figure with this iconic Democratic name, but he's also now being embraced by many on the political right who have adopted anti-vax views.
	Right, but he is running as a Democrat.
	President Biden's approval rating with Democrats, I mean, it's pretty strong right now.
	Polls find that Democrats are also not willing to get vaccinated, then are Republicans.
	So what is the rationale for Kennedy here?
	Because this sounds kind of like a long shot, right?
	Oh, they're so elitist.
	What's the rationale?
	I mean, why would he even bother?
	I mean, it's a long shot.
	I mean, why even waste your time, huh?
	Becky?
	So they also have, they structure that whole little part of that report where they go, and everything he says has been debunked, it's false, it's a bit, you know, they go, the one thing after this, they just can't, they just can't say, you know, it's questionable or it's not proven.
	These are news models.
	These are news models with the perfect face for radio.
	That's why they're on it.
	They got the voice.
	They do.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Let's go to this.
	How are you?
	Hi, John.
	How are you?
	Part three of the smear.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, for a long time, also, vaccine opponents weren't particularly aligned with one political party.
	Here's how Annette Meeks, who's a lifelong Republican who runs the Freedom Foundation of Minnesota, a conservative think tank.
	Here's how she put it.
	In the early days, it really is kind of where the crunchy granola left meets the far right.
	But that started to change even before COVID.
	You saw vaccine opponents begin to rally under the banner of what they called liberty or freedom.
	That seems to have really resonated with conservatives.
	And then when COVID came along, resistance to vaccines became linked with resistance to other things like closing schools, wearing masks.
	Everything was filtered through this partisan divide.
	And in fact, Kennedy does have some surprising sources of support.
	Donald Trump's former advisor, election denier Steve Bannon, has publicly suggested Kennedy should enter the Republican primary.
	And the conspiracy theorist and Trump ally Roger Stone has his own suggestion, that Trump should pick Kennedy as his running mate.
	Oh man.
	There you go.
	That's the ticket.
	It's a Trump-Kennedy ticket!
	Oh man, oh man.
	Well, there you go.
	At least we're wasting everybody's time with this drivel.
	It's a smear.
	It's a smear and it's also, we got a way to go before it's time for the 2024 election and we're all being just, just...
	Keyed up, teed up, and spun up over this stuff.
	It's not important, people.
	It's not important.
	Go to your local school board election meeting.
	Go to your local council meeting.
	That's where it's important.
	This is dumb.
	It's a distraction.
	It's not important.
	But it will be fun to watch Joe get taken down.
	But that's our job.
	So you can just continue.
	Focus on your local community.
	Please.
	And I have a series of trans-Maoist clips, which I'm excited to share with you, but we'll do that right after I say in the morning to you and thank you for your courage, the man who put the sea in clusters of children.
	Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John C. Devorah!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships at sea.
	Feet in the air, subs in the water, games and nights out there.
	And some boots on the ground, then of course in the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Hello trolls!
	How you doing?
	Put your hands up!
	Put your hands up!
	Let's see what you're looking like right now.
	Oh, I got no juice.
	How come I don't see anything?
	Oh, maybe I was kicked off somehow.
	Somebody do the count for me.
	You were kicked off?
	Well, no, when I... There we go.
	1862.
	There we go.
	1862.
	For today.
	How's that for a Thursday?
	There we go.
	1862.
	There we go.
	1862 for today.
	How's that for a Thursday?
	Is that low?
	No, it's about, recently it's about right.
	Okay.
	It's not low.
	For Thursdays, it would be, normally $17.50 would be the median.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm happy then.
	Trolls, thank you very much for being here.
	A lot of disagreement from the trolls.
	That's bullcrap!
	Hypersonic is above the speed of sound.
	Five could be hypersonic, supersonic.
	They're very testy.
	I think a lot of these trolls are nerds.
	I say that with love.
	Uh, who were very upset about the SpaceX launch.
	I think that they're upset.
	Like, oh man, I was watching.
	No, they're not.
	Nobody cares.
	In fact, I think most people are excited when a missile blows up.
	I think that's why they watch.
	But I wish they would have blowed up right on the thing there.
	On the pad, but that would not be their M.O.
	Their M.O.
	is to blow up above the pad.
	So we can get more, more on the, on the pad.
	Yes, indeed.
	Uh, the trolls are in the troll room.
	You can join them at trollroom.io or you can get a modern podcast app.
	This is very important because any, if you're seeing your favorite podcast disappearing, which is happening in an alarming rate, particularly off of Spotify, but also off of others like Apple, um, for the craziest reasons, you know, like Kennedy Jr.
	Huh?
	Oh, nothing.
	I'm just trying to get this web browser to work.
	I'm mumbling at it.
	Oh, you're Bravo?
	My Bravo.
	Bravo Browser.
	If she keeps playing me movies, what the hell's wrong with this browser?
	Go to podcastapps.com and get one of these modern podcast apps with all the cool new features, 20 of them.
	And you can import your subscriptions from your old podcast app, not a problem.
	Run them side by side for a bit, see which one you like, let me know.
	Of course, we like Podcast Addict, Podcast Guru, Podcast Podverse, and CurioCaster because they bring you the live stream right there with the chat room, the troll room.
	It's beautiful stuff, it's brand new, it's podcastapps.com.
	We also have noagendasocial.com Where people like to tag Adam and John in very long threads about stuff we don't care about, and then say, you vote!
	No, no, no, we're not going to do that.
	You can follow us.
	Don't tag us in all your long, boring conversations, please.
	Adam at noagendasocial.com, John C. DeVorek at noagendasocial.com.
	That is a place where people like to hang out and discuss stuff, and there's a lot of it going on.
	We have 10,000 slots.
	I think they're full now.
	You can't join, but you can, as I said, follow because it's on Mastodon.
	It's part of the Fediverse.
	We'd like to thank the artist for episode, what are you laughing?
	I'm sorry I went to the art because we're going to discuss the art.
	Oh, okay.
	And there was one that cracked me up, sorry.
	Episode 1547, which we titled A Sally, a nice, I guess the old word for a Karen, in a way.
	Well, actually, specifically, it was the old word for a woman who was a sorority sister.
	Oh, there you go, that's right.
	Now we could not find any art on the existing new submissions page that we thought was appropriate or liked enough to choose, so we went into the archives...
	And, interestingly enough, came up with something we had not used before.
	I'm not sure exactly why this missed out when it was submitted back in the day.
	Because there was a better piece.
	It was from Capitalist Agenda, and this was the Rubik's Cube with mainstream media logos, and just looking at it again, what a great piece.
	Yeah.
	People really like this, and I feel good that we were able to use this after, what was it, this was months ago I think you submitted this, maybe longer than that.
	I think it's, well, I think it was the 1300s.
	Okay, that's quite, that's several months ago.
	So we thank you very much, Capitalist Agenda, and oh yes, I can see, you mean the top one, top left?
	From Nico?
	No, you'll see it.
	That's good, but there's a better one.
	Already the artists are having a good time letting us know that they are all in on submissions for today's show.
	And as I said, you know, we had a Mike Reilly piece, Lick the World, which you didn't like because you don't like a tongue licking anything, I guess, is what you didn't like.
	What was the problem with that one?
	Well, for one thing, it reminds me of the Rolling Stones logo.
	It does a little bit.
	So it's derivative.
	And so I don't like that.
	And then I just thought it was kind of a, it wasn't, I don't know, it just didn't have any real life to it.
	I mean, I saw a lot of people, I mean, another one I thought was nice, but I didn't have any.
	The Turing test with Scaramanga with the robot.
	Yeah, but it looked like that cartoon series.
	And it just, it didn't have any life, it didn't have any zip.
	There was another one that didn't have any zip.
	It had some boob jokes in there, but that wasn't enough.
	The boob jokes were fabulous, I have to give him credit for that.
	The boob jokes were great.
	We had the corner of the internet, also by Capitalist Agenda, which just did not, I mean, it just didn't make it, you know?
	It just wasn't quite there.
	What else do we have?
	That was about it, I think.
	There wasn't anything.
	A lot of testosterone jokes, which weren't really funny.
	And there wasn't that many submissions.
	I think the show didn't have the kind of material that calls for art.
	Yes, in fact, that's exactly what you said at the time.
	You said, I don't think it has, I just don't think it has it.
	We just didn't have the topics that made it work for everybody.
	And still, we have artists pulling stuff out of their butts, doing their best.
	And I think probably because we were looking at Capitalist Agenda on the tongue, that's probably how you came... No, that was Mike Riley.
	On the corner of the internet with the mole.
	That's probably how we got to it.
	Anyway... No.
	Well, how did you get to it then?
	I saw a Capitalist Agenda thing.
	I know for a fact that Capitalist Agenda, along with Correct the Record and a number of other people, have like 10 or 12 pages of backed up art because they submitted so much over the last few years.
	That I did have to be a piece in there, because I've actually gone to the Well at Capitalist Agenda's page, the specific page, for some artwork for the newsletter, and so I figured there's got to be something here, and so I clicked and found it was pretty deep in there.
	It was like page four or five, something like that.
	A beautiful piece, Capitalist Agenda, thank you so much.
	We appreciate the work you do.
	And then, of course, the work that all the artists do.
	It just wasn't there this time.
	And that's, you know, this type of criticism, and being very discerning as art directors, this is what gets people like Roger Roundey high-paying jobs.
	Yeah, and it also gets them to quit doing anything for us.
	That's not true!
	It's typical, it's typical.
	Touch those guys is really the way it goes.
	It's all part of our value for value system.
	This is what we run on.
	You know, I hear these reports of, oh yeah, this podcast is number one on the charts.
	It has two million downloads a month.
	I think, wow.
	You know, we have a lot more than that.
	But we'd have to be doing meetings and playing ads and wouldn't be able to talk about all the things we'd like to talk about because it might be a conflict or we'd have to be careful.
	Oh, could we talk about vaccines?
	Could we even talk about Joe Biden?
	Without getting pulled and people go after us and attack us and try to get rid of our ads.
	So for over, you know, working on 16 years, we have not done that.
	We've always relied on you, the listening public, which we call producers for very specific reasons.
	You help us with your time, your talent and your treasure.
	And we like to highlight our executive and associate executive producers as quickly in the show as possible, just like Hollywood.
	And before we get to the first one on the spreadsheet, I have a instant night donation, which was handed to me in check form.
	And this is from Mike Scheutzer.
	And Mike is the guitar player for the band Mercy Me, which Tina and I went to see after the show on Sunday.
	If you remember, we went down to San Antonio.
	We went to see them.
	It's funny every time you say that.
	I always think of San Antonio as above you, but it's not, it's down below.
	It's down below.
	So they said, hey, the band is big, they're big No Agenda fans.
	And I'm like, okay, we'll see how big a fan they are.
	First of all, it turns out, you remember Barry on the last show donated $500, Barry Grohl?
	Yeah.
	Well, he's also in the band and he wanted to donate before anyone else, but he didn't have a note.
	So he gave him a double-up Converse.
	Oh, here's the Noteless.
	Yeah, the Noteless Barry, exactly.
	So he put that in, and then we roll up backstage, very swanky, and there's the buses.
	And then Mike, he's the guitar player, comes out, and he's got a Curry Dvorak Consulting Group t-shirt on, which doesn't exist.
	I mean, the group exists, but the t-shirt doesn't exist.
	He's had their merch guys make this up.
	And he played the whole concert with it.
	That's gotta be pretty baffling.
	Baffling to the audience, I think.
	That's what I meant, baffling to the audience.
	Yeah, so he did give us one each, so yours will be forthcoming.
	And he gave us a check for $1,033 and a note.
	Thanks so much for the greatest podcast in the universe.
	You guys are like the media methadone.
	No way could I have ever detoxed from my addiction to the news without your help.
	I was hit in the mouth a little over a year ago by one of my closest friends and bandmates, Nathan.
	That's Nathan Cochran of Franklin.
	Nathan is the bass player, Franklin, Tennessee.
	Haven't missed an episode since, and I'm always waiting with anticipation to see what John will be putting the C in next.
	Nathan donation.
	Nathan donation?
	No, it's a Nathan mouth hit donation.
	It's a mic donation.
	Encloses my long overdue first donation of $1,033 which I believe officially de-douches and knights me.
	Well, we will officially de-douche it.
	You've been de-douched.
	I would like to request the title Sir Schwoo of the Six Strings.
	Sorry for the savage sliss fest.
	Yes, thank you.
	And would love Weller and Ribeye at the round table.
	I'd like to add a big thanks to Adam for allowing us all a front row seat to his family's faith journey.
	Greatly encourages my own faith seeing God's work in the lives of others.
	No jingles, no karma, just jitty to be in the N.A.
	family.
	And it was a great show.
	It was a very impressive show.
	I think like 3,000 people in the, in like the Boeing something.
	Is he on the list?
	I put him on the list.
	Yes, of course.
	I put him on the list.
	And then I have one, uh, wait, no, that comes after.
	I'll do this one and then I have one more from the meetup.
	Thank you again, guys.
	You were very, very kind and gracious.
	It was a lot of fun seeing the Mercy Me concert.
	Um, David Alcott is in Eatontown, New Jersey and comes in with $1,000.
	Greetings from Central Jersey.
	I want to thank my friend Dave Laconte for hitting me in the mouth many years ago.
	Please provide me with a de-douche.
	You've been de-douche.
	And he says, please cut it off before that awful 80s Nintendo synth riff.
	So I did that.
	Thanks for your courage, he says.
	Then I have a donation that was handed to us in person at the Nashville Meetup by Daryl DeVille, and we actually have a picture of this.
	To complete his knighthood with $600, because he had donated a total of $400 previously, he brought in $600 in $2 bills.
	Duh! - Stacks and stacks of $2 bills.
	Now the question is, I mean, I feel like, you know, he emptied the bank out.
	I guess they got all of their $2 bills.
	It's like, it seems like a shame for me to go and give that back to a bank and then send a money order.
	It's really cool.
	I mean, they're, you know, the three stacks of 100 in twos.
	You want me to send you a stack?
	It's pretty cool to see.
	I used to go to the bank and get stacks of $2 bills because farmers market people and people like that give them out there and they all get a kick out of it.
	I stopped doing that.
	I matured.
	And actually what really stopped me is one time I ordered a stack of another one of those $200 worth of $2 bills.
	And the entire stack was all cocaine bills.
	How do you know?
	Because they had that funny folding thing where people fold up the drugs.
	Every bill was folded.
	And so I took the thing back to the bank.
	I said, what are you giving me this for?
	Is it the Federal Reserve selling coke?
	What's the deal?
	And I turned him and that's the last time I ever got a batch of twos.
	That was the end of it.
	So no, I don't want a batch of twos.
	Okay.
	Well, we appreciate it and he will become Sir Ganoy Weaver of Dixie Alley.
	Sir Ganoy Weaver of Dixie Alley.
	And we appreciate his support very much.
	Onward with the next donation.
	Yeah, NightMFDX of Anjou, Toronto, Ontario comes in.
	He doesn't really have much of a note.
	He's just got way too many jingles, which we're not going to do.
	Well, actually, I can do it.
	It's just, it's just... Hit it, Fauci wheeze, Fauci wheeze, while I'm high, half-second pause.
	No, no, no.
	Please, people, don't, I don't care.
	Yeah, you can do it, but we don't want to, we're not, this is not, we're not, this is not like, no.
	It's no good.
	If you just say, hit it, I think I can play these for him.
	Well, okay.
	Well, let me start with the thanks for the excellent product, gentlemen.
	The only issue is starting this show two hours later.
	Wow.
	Oh, he's got just a $420.69 donation.
	Yeah.
	Oh, he's got just a 420-69 donation.
	Yeah.
	Hey, man, I just noticed.
	Starting later.
	How long has the two hour thing been going?
	I think you're right.
	The only thing I've noticed since the show started, let me read it correctly.
	The only issue with starting the show two hours later is by the time Adam says in the morning, John, it's damn near afternoon.
	Wow, I am really high.
	Beautiful!
	Yum!
	There you go.
	Wasn't that hard?
	It was a good sequence.
	I'm not going to say it wasn't.
	But it just shouldn't be discouraged.
	That's okay, because now I get to decode this next one.
	Because, you know, the stoners came out for 420.
	This is, of course, 420.
	What?
	Darius Unity from Upper Marlborough, Maryland.
	420, 42.
	So 420 with the most interesting and important number in the universe, 42, as a sense behind it.
	Peace, blessings, and mad love, Gitmo Nation.
	Thank you for your courage.
	In the morning, hooey, hooey, 420, born day, night here, turning 34 years old.
	Blessed belated birthday to Mr. Dvorak also.
	Oh, it's not... I have a... Excuse me.
	My throat is sore.
	I'd like to be known as Sir Darius Unity, Night of the Sandhill People, Roundtable Requests, Wild-Caught Alaskan Salmon, JCD Style with Mocktails, also in the morning for 3% off at Warrantees.com.
	In the show notes please, that's W-A-R-N-T-E-E-S.com, Warrantees.com.
	That's a cute pun.
	It is.
	42 cents because my brand warranties.com has 42 as a logo and 3% off with ITM.
	Please place link with my name in the show notes.
	Yes, you got it.
	Oh, Kamala's Biscuits, please.
	So I wonder if, is he on the, is he on the birthday list?
	I'm gonna have to check and see if it's on the birthday list.
	Kamala's Biscuit, please, and all the karma.
	Birthday no agenda meetup currently underway in DC.
	Apologies for the late notice.
	Stay safe!
	Peaceful tidings.
	Darius Unity, founder of War and Tease.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	Alright, brother.
	No problem.
	Let me check and see if he's on the list.
	You've got karma.
	Your next president.
	Make sure he's on the list.
	Yeah, he's on the list.
	Ashley Zafman in Ontario, sorry, London, Ontario, Canada.
	Happy 6th anniversary on 420 to my husband.
	Wait a minute.
	Ashley, yeah.
	To my husband and No Agenda Night, Sir Bram of Upper Candanavia.
	Love always your smokin' hot wife.
	There you go.
	Cheers to many more years of no agenda together with beers, buds, and Boston Terriers.
	Sir Stoner Boner is from Kent, Washington. 420.
	Adam and John, Sir Stoner Boner here with my annual executive producer donation to the best podcast in the universe.
	I can't express how much I appreciate being able to listen to you twice a week.
	Thank you for the amygdala maintenance and please share my karma to all of Noah's generation.
	Thanks, Sir Stoner Boner.
	You've got karma.
	On with Mike the polymath.
	Polymath?
	If he is a polymath.
	Indianapolis, Indiana.
	That means he does numbers real good.
	This is Mike, the polymath.
	I asked for official de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Although I've donated many a meetup, I have yet to be fully cleansed.
	I hereby bequeath.
	I can see that, yeah, I can visualize Mike, Paulie, Matt, who uses the word bequeath.
	Yes.
	I hereby bequeath 419.93 in honor of my day of birth and the final day of the Waco siege at March At Mount Carmel.
	Well, I prefer the history of April 19th, 1775 with Paul Revere's right and the shot heard around the world.
	I would be remiss in neglecting to acknowledge the dark day that occurred 30 years ago as I emerged into this world a newborn babe.
	I'm turning 30 on Wednesday.
	I could think of no better way to celebrate than to humbly donate to the greatest podcast in the universe.
	I asked for Jobs Karma for my business.
	Easy peasy garden solutions.
	Easy peasy garden solutions in Indianapolis, Indiana, and for podcasts around thereabouts.
	And for podcasting, Karma, for the Easy Peasy Podcast.
	I build and maintain a number of veggie gardens in the Indianapolis area.
	And I discuss a variety of topics on my show, sometimes with new and interesting guests.
	No jingles, but a little Sharpton's Respect wouldn't hurt.
	Thanks a million for all you do.
	Mike, The Polymath.
	P-O-L-Y-M-A-T-H.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	You stop.
	Oh, my.
	Then we got those crazy indie people.
	The Indie NA Meetup got a report later.
	$3.35 switcheroo raffle donation from the March Indianapolis No Agenda Meetup for Amy Thurmond.
	That means Amy gets the executive producership there.
	Okay.
	I've done the switcheroo.
	Adam and John, my husband, Sir Craig of the Dark Moon, and I first... By the way, I met these folks.
	They came to Nashville.
	They came to the Nashville Meetup.
	And I attended... I'm sorry?
	They're everywhere.
	The Indiana people, it's pretty insane.
	They're everywhere.
	Yeah, they are.
	My husband, Sir Craig of the Dark Moon, and I attended our first ever No Agenda Meetup last Sunday.
	Oh wait, this is different.
	The Crossroads of America Indianapolis NA Tribal Meetup and the spirit distillation of the Mash House at West Fork Whiskey in Westfield, Indiana.
	I am honored to be the winner of the donation raffle.
	Appreciate all who contributed, as this puts me on the path to becoming a dame.
	Oh, that makes sense, yeah.
	The meetup was fantastic.
	The Indiana crown is welcoming and fun.
	Truly a great experience.
	Many thanks to Sir Mark and Dame Maria for... Yeah, that's who came to Nashville.
	Sir Mark and Dame Maria for organizing.
	And more people came.
	It was insane how many people came.
	No jingles, no karma, but a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	You got it.
	We're with Andrew O'Donoghue in Smeaton, Saskatchewan.
	Good afternoon.
	This email coincides with my first donation to the show of 333.
	Just want to thank you and John for all that you do.
	I started listening after hearing Adam on the Joe Rogan experience just before the pandemic hit.
	No Agenda immediately became my number one listen as a podcast.
	It truly is the best podcast in the universe.
	I should have donated sooner, I know.
	I'm a super douche.
	Hoping this donation helps make amends.
	Please give me a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Sincerely, Andrew O'Donoghue.
	A lot of people came to the Meetup who haven't been listening really since 2019.
	I mean, pandemic listeners.
	We got a lot of new people during the pandemic.
	Of course there was some old timer.
	It's a trick.
	Good work!
	Good work on spreading that Wuhan thing, John.
	Well done.
	We go to our first Associate Executive Producer, Tom Recker from Emaus, Pennsylvania, 29317.
	I'm sending you guys a value for value royalty payment.
	My friend and I started a podcast and website last year, and we're doing things the No Agenda way.
	No jingles, no karma, just a lot of appreciation for what you guys have created and continue to do.
	To the No Agenda family members who enjoy movie reviews or are wondering if a film is worth a watch, you can throw out those rotten tomatoes and check out TheDailyRatings.com or The Daily Ratings Podcast.
	Let's go lick the world!
	Nice, I'll put that in next to your name as well.
	You know, Rotten Tomatoes has been corrupted.
	I've never... I don't look at ratings or any of that stuff ever anyway.
	I don't trust it all.
	Like Yelp.
	I've never been a Yelper.
	I don't trust any of it.
	It's all gamed.
	Gamed, let me tell you.
	Brooke Mortensen in Sierra Vista, Arizona.
	Megyn Kelly's new listener here.
	Ooh, Megyn Donation.
	Megyn Donation.
	I love and appreciate all of you so much.
	I found many gems like No Agenda through her humble, generous, sassy self.
	And then I started listening to Rogan because of you.
	Oh!
	That's a switcheroo.
	Yeah.
	So, you're welcome, Joe.
	Yep.
	High five!
	$222.22.
	That's a row of ducks from her.
	And Monday I will be back on the Megyn Kelly Show.
	What's the topic?
	I don't know what the topic is.
	I've been asked to... I don't know.
	I've been asked to come on the show.
	That's all I know.
	Maybe it's a setup.
	No, it's hard to...
	I think it's hard doing a show five days a week.
	You gotta get a guest.
	And my number's up.
	Don't you think that's kind of how it goes?
	I don't know if I've lectured enough about why that's a bad idea.
	You mean doing an interview show?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you can do interviews every so often, but a daily interview show requires a full-time booker.
	And, you know, there's so much competition.
	So you have Joe Rogan, which I still consider to be the Mac Daddy.
	You know, that's the all-time Johnny Carson Tonight Show level.
	Yeah, no, it's the number one.
	It is the show.
	It is the show.
	And then we have, well, what else do we have out there?
	Glenn Beck.
	I think Glenn Beck is huge.
	I think that's also a big show.
	Yeah, but to compare the... Not comparable.
	Not to be compared.
	No, it's not comparable.
	But then you have everyone go, Oh, go on the Pool Boy!
	Pool Boy!
	Pool Boy!
	I'm never going on the Pool Boy show.
	That would be the equivalent of going on Letterman when you're, when you've been discovered by Carson.
	You know, that, I think that would be rude.
	Don't you think?
	Well, I think it would be lousy.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	For more reasons than one.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	It's West Virginia.
	Who wants to travel to West Virginia?
	Oh, well, that's your stomping ground.
	For three months, my alma mater.
	You're right.
	Uh, 20816 comes to us from Victoria, Australia.
	Altona North from Dinny.
	Dinny says, hey Adam and John, the number represents my daughter's due date.
	208, oh, so two, uh, huh?
	20816?
	Maybe.
	I'm not sure.
	Oh, I wonder if this was, uh, is that the Australian number or is that the U.S.
	number?
	You're asking the wrong guy.
	Yeah, I'm just, just asking in there.
	First-time donor, I first heard your show from Carl at Who Are These Podcasts back in 2020.
	Thank you for your honesty, integrity, and producing a great show.
	It irked me to hear Adam butcher the pronunciation of Xi Jinping recently, so I'm offering a pronunciation note.
	The X sound or the Z sound in China is unvoiced and sounds similar to the English sh if spoken through a grimace or wide smile.
	Let me try.
	Xi Jinping.
	Okay.
	And then there's a whole bunch of complaints.
	I was wrong.
	I was wrong about Australian beef.
	Everything's great.
	There's no Chinese beef.
	I was wrong about their money.
	Everything's great.
	Nothing's wrong with the money in Australia.
	I'm wrong.
	I'm wrong.
	That's kind of how I sum it up.
	I think that's pretty accurate.
	And lastly, I recently listened to Adam discussing his conversion on the JRE.
	Congratulations.
	I was blown away by the difference in audio quality.
	I don't know what you were doing over here, but keep up the good work.
	Yes, some people do say that our audio quality ruins people listening to other podcasts.
	Well, you know what I say?
	No.
	I say it's a crime That you have not won an audio engineering award of some sort because you're the one responsible for the audio sound, not me.
	And you should get an award from the AES or someone or a podcasting operation for the sound.
	It just baffles me.
	Where is the Podcast Academy?
	I deserve it.
	You get nothing.
	This is the back.
	This is the problem.
	You know, you understand the talent is on one side of the mic and Behind it, you know, it never gets enough recognition.
	No, I'm sure the Podcast Industrial Complex, who actually create these types of awards, which are bullcrap and I've always laughed at, they don't like me because I laugh at their little award shows.
	The Ambys, please.
	I mean, it just sounds like some pharmaceutical thing.
	Here's an Amby!
	I don't want that.
	Thank you, Danny.
	I don't know about the Amby's.
	Well, that's the award of the industry.
	There's all kinds of... Everyone has an award.
	The industry.
	It's the Podcast Industrial Complex.
	You're the industry.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, the actual one.
	We should... You know what?
	I thought about this before.
	I'm going to bring it up.
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	We should have the No Agenda Podcasting Awards.
	I'm all in.
	Let's do it.
	That didn't take much to convince.
	No, I'm all in, because it will be hilarious.
	Well, I don't think it would be hilarious.
	I think we'd probably come up.
	It would take us a while, and these would be awards.
	I guess you're supposed to do them once a year.
	But once we do them once, then we have to do them every year.
	They would actually be good podcasts and not repurposed junk from NPR or wannabe junk from NPR that wants to be on NPR but it can't make it.
	None of that stuff.
	Genuine podcasts.
	That's a lot of work.
	Okay, we're not doing it.
	Exactly.
	Onward!
	I think we're already left off of the show.
	I was Cheryl, Cheryl Dorfel.
	Uh, Dor-fel.
	In Big Pine Key, Florida.
	Wow.
	Dedoosh me, please.
	You've been dedooshed.
	I was hit in the mouth by my favorite son, Sir TJ the Wrathful.
	Going to meet up outside of Nashville Monday night with him.
	Love the show.
	There's no other like it in the universe.
	That's a fact.
	200 bucks.
	This is the wife of Sir T.J.
	the Wrathful, who also brought his human resources to the meetup.
	And they're the ones that did the, we don't talk about Brandon, Brandon.
	And his kids were adorable.
	Yeah.
	I said, abuse them some more.
	We need more of that stuff.
	He said, okay, no problem.
	I'm doing it.
	JC Swisher in Naples, Idaho.
	$200 switcheroo for Joe Wall for his birthday, April 22nd.
	Happy birthday to the love of my life and the one who hit me in the mouth.
	Well, thank you very much, Joe.
	We're going to do that.
	Yeah, I mean, Joe, thank you, JC.
	And thank you, Joe, for hitting JC in the mouth.
	Good work.
	All right.
	Okay, this is going to be tough because I don't get to... This would be Steindolk in Nijmegen, Holland.
	Pretty good.
	Pretty close.
	ITM, my colleague and I... This is the last 200 bucks.
	ITM, my colleague and I are going to meet up this weekend because I don't want to go as a freeloader.
	Here's my donation.
	We'll give him a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	My colleague, on the other hand, doesn't mind going as a freeloader.
	Please call out Eric as a douchebag.
	And that's the message.
	All right.
	Then we have... Oh, that's it.
	That's the last one.
	Let me... We're going to take a second break later on.
	Don't you think we should do a second break?
	Well, I mean, it's less numbers total than last show, which we did when one passed.
	There's not that many left.
	Okay, well, then let me just thank a couple people for some other donations that we got at the meetup.
	$100 from Sir Scovey of the Piedmont, and that's a switcheroo for his smoking hot girlfriend, Ciara.
	We have Mark and Lisa Churich, $100.
	$100.
	Professor Tom Gallucci, he came up with an outstanding promotional item, the No Agenda Ceiling Wax.
	C-E-I-L-I-N-G.
	And so he actually created a product, you know, we have sealing wax for your important correspondence as a knight or a dame for your ring.
	He actually created a product called No Agenda Sealing Wax, and you could put it on your ceiling.
	And it's noagendasealingwax.com.
	Steven West, A boob donation, 8-0-0-8.
	Thank you for the communite, love and light.
	He's in Loosburg, uh, Looserburg.
	Looserbug?
	Hmm.
	Something Tennessee.
	Samantha West, thanks for hitting me in the mouth.
	Have some boobs, 8-0-0-8.
	And we had, we each got a silver dollar from, um, a photo by franklin.com.
	A Lady Liberty for each of you.
	Thank you very much.
	It's beautiful and I will send that to you.
	And then we got two beautiful challenge coins and $100 from Sir Rory of the Duck River.
	And he wrote a very nice long note and I will forward that to you as well, John.
	And we thank everybody for coming to the meetup.
	Just being at the meetup was great.
	Some people were being hit in the mouth on the spot and donating $33, getting on some of those Wonderful sustaining donations, and it was really nice to see everybody.
	Thank you for coming out.
	John's gonna take us through the rest of these donations, and then we'll give you a few left.
	Let's start with Sir Vesa.
	Sir Vesa, get it, get it, get it.
	I got it.
	He's in Florissant, Colorado.
	$105.
	Heather Allen in New Wilmington, Pennsylvania. $105.
	Is he going to be douching or anything?
	I don't know.
	I don't see it.
	Uh, no.
	Douglas Murray in Missoula, Montana.
	94-20.
	Douglas Murray in Miss- I'm sorry, Douglas Murray was in Missoula, Montana.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin's up there with 8-0-0-8.
	You know him?
	He's in Locust, North Carolina.
	Everyone's favorite.
	Edward Owens in Alameda, California.
	8-0-0-8.
	Kyle High in Kaiser, Oregon.
	Switcheroo for his wife.
	Aaron High.
	H-A-G-H.
	I think that's pronounced High.
	H-A-I-G-H.
	Sounds right.
	And then he says, because it's 8-0-0-8, he says, I love your boobs, babe.
	Patrick Coble in Fairview, Tennessee.
	He donates as well.
	He pays.
	He's unstoppable.
	He pays for everything.
	He makes everything happen.
	Thank you, Sir Patrick.
	We really appreciate it.
	7140.
	And it's a happy birthday to his daughter, Karen, and his beautiful wife, Sarah.
	Who I met.
	I met both his kids and his wife.
	It was great.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Yes.
	Raymond Bressler in Arlington, Washington, 6996.
	Joseph Stegman in Thousand Oaks, California, 66.
	Kevin O'Brien, Chicago, Illinois, 6006.
	And he's getting knighted as Sir Kevin of the 80th Parallel.
	Standard fare will do.
	So he's on the list.
	He is.
	Sir Mango Meat in Detroit, Michigan, 56.
	This is interesting.
	Because I know for a fact that Kevin McLaughlin came in with a second donation for 6006.
	Okay.
	And it's not on here, so it might have gotten bumped or didn't, I don't know what happened.
	All right.
	But anyway, thanks to him again.
	Sir Mango Meat, Sir David Galloway in Flower Mound, Texas, 5510.
	Love the Maoist Revolution segment.
	Dean Roker, 50, people love the Maoists.
	Yeah, we got more coming up.
	5510 Sir Mark in Greenwood, Indiana with a birthday at $53 and this is switcheroo for his amazing keeper Dame Maria of the Greek Kingdoms!
	I think it's her birthday.
	Bob Butler in Cumming, Georgia, $50.69.
	Chris, just playing Chris in Wichita, Kansas, $50.50.
	And he's got a birthday for his wife.
	And now we go to the $50 donors who are running right through these.
	These are starting with Nathan Cochran, his names and locations, Franklin, Tennessee, 50.
	Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida.
	Peter Odo in Ridge, New York.
	Steven Schumach in Xenia, Ohio.
	John, John.
	Joan Pulse, P-U-L-S in Hernando Beach, Florida.
	Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois.
	Alexander Verdejo in Gig Harbor, Washington.
	Scott Lavender, our friend in Montgomery, Texas.
	Sir Andrew Gusik in Greensboro, North Carolina.
	Joe Oswald in Lithia, Florida.
	Peter Andrew Perez in San Marcos, Texas, with a switcheroo.
	Credit Sister Aida.
	Aida.
	A-I-D-A.
	She's gonna have a birthday.
	Sixty.
	Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey, 50.
	Robert Case in Mill Springs, North Carolina, 50.
	Christy Jones in Demarest, Georgia.
	Stephen Crummey in El Cajon.
	Sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia.
	Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California.
	And last on the list is Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington.
	It's actually a fairly short list.
	Yes, well we do want to thank them all.
	We're gonna make up for that with lots of nightings and birthdays.
	And we have a black knight to deal with today.
	Sir Mike of the New Jersey Lowlands, and we missed him on the last show.
	He says, after many months I finally reached the title of knight.
	I'd like to thank you and Adam for keeping me sane in this world of media nonsense.
	The show is definitely the best podcast in the universe.
	That's right!
	It's in the leaked documents from Discord.
	I'd like to request the title of Knight of the New Jersey Lowlands and have Irish car bombs at the round table.
	That doesn't sound very nice.
	Okay, Irish car bombs.
	Maybe it's a drink.
	I hope so.
	I don't know if I like that.
	Oh, love and light, he says.
	Sir Mike of the New Jersey Lowlands.
	And thank you all very much for supporting the show.
	Episode 1548.
	The executive and associate executive producers know by now that those are titles you can have forever.
	They do not expire.
	You can use them anywhere.
	Credits of show business ilk.
	...are accepted, like IMDB, you can put it on your LinkedIn, just throw it on your resume.
	And unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will gladly vouch for you.
	Thank you again for supporting us here at No Agenda, episode 1548.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, Wayne.
	Shut up.
	And, of course, thank everybody who came in under 50 for reason of anonymity or you are in one of those fantastic programs that are sustaining donations.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	We got Emily wishing her smoking hot husband Bruce Blessinger a happy birthday.
	He turned 37 yesterday.
	Andrew Perez wishes his sister Ida a happy birthday.
	She turned 60 yesterday.
	Mike the polymath turned 30 yesterday.
	Darius Unity, 34 today.
	I had a nice note from him earlier.
	Teresa Marcin wishes her son Josh Klein a happy birthday for tomorrow.
	Sir Mark wants to wish Dame Maria of the Greek Kingdom a happy birthday for tomorrow as well.
	Christina wishes her Sir Lorin Medium Rare a happy birthday.
	He turns 75 on the 22nd.
	J.C.
	Swisher wishes Joe Wall a happy birthday on the 22nd as well.
	Chris wishes big birthday greetings for his wife Margie on April 22nd.
	Patrick Coble, the Duke of the South, wishes his daughter Catherine and beautiful wife Sarah both a happy birthday.
	And Jacob Alley wishes his human resource Naomi Alley a happy birthday.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	Woo!
	Alright, so we have one, two, three, four knights.
	We've got a black knight on deck, so we need quite a blade.
	A blade-o.
	This one'll do.
	Oh!
	No, that's the special one.
	Okay.
	Alright, Mike Waddell!
	Come on up, you'll be a black knight!
	Mike Schweitzer!
	Happy to see you here, my friend.
	Daryl DeVille, Kevin O'Brien, and Darius Unity.
	All of you have reached the status of knighthood of the knowage in the round table.
	And I'm very proud to pronounce the K-V-S.
	Sir Mike of the New Jersey Lowlands.
	Sir Schwoo of the Six Strings.
	Sir Genoy Weaver of Dixie Alley, Sir Kevin of the 80th Parallels, and Sir Darius Unity, Knight of the Sandhill People.
	For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Wild Caught, Alaskan Salmon, JCD Style with Mocktails.
	We got Irish Car Bombs.
	I know I'm forgetting something here.
	I forgot the weller and ribeye, but it's still on the grill.
	There we go.
	Along with that, of course, we've got mutton and meat for those of you who have not had it yet.
	While you feast on that, you can slip on over to noagenderrings.com, and anyone can visit that.
	You can see those handsome knight and dame rings.
	All you have to do is send us your details, your address, and your ring finger size, and we'll get those off to you.
	you and thank you again for becoming knights and a black knight here of the no agenda roundtable well no surprise there are a lot of 420 meetups today uh, But before we get to that, we've got a couple of meetup reports.
	The first from Indianapolis.
	Hi, this is Maria.
	And this is Mark.
	We have over 30 people today.
	What an amazing meetup!
	We love it.
	Thank you, No Agenda, John and Adam.
	You're the best.
	In the morning, this is Emily.
	Not a fed unless it's Monday through Friday from 7-3.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	Nada from Indianapolis.
	Finally dragged my mom here.
	Thank you for your courage.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	PBR Street Gang enjoying another wonderful meetup here in Indy.
	Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel.
	Thank you for your courage.
	I wish everybody knew how much three inches was.
	Bruce from Indy just drinking some whiskey.
	In the morning, Dame Swanee.
	Sir Benny saying hi to everybody out there.
	This is Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne.
	I was in Crown Point, now in Indy, and I'll see you tomorrow in Asheville.
	Thank you for your courage.
	This is Shannon visiting from Fort Wayne.
	In the morning.
	Have a great day.
	Hey, this is Connor from Westfield.
	Hate to break it to you, but every time Fort Wayne has a meetup, Vladimir Putin unvaccinates a transgender Ukrainian toddler.
	I'm with Conor Young.
	Really?
	This is Steph from Carmel.
	I've been hearing about this for a long time.
	This is my first meeting and I loved it.
	Thank you very much.
	Hi, I'm Steph from Carmel.
	This is Nick from Indy.
	Today I met a baby who listens to Alex Jones.
	In the morning!
	That's a big group.
	And then I got a note from Mike Stulak, who did the first Northwest Indiana Meetup in Geary, Indiana, where no one showed at the Hard Rock, and he's thrilled to report the second initial Northwest Indiana Meetup was a rousing success.
	Over a dozen attendees, knights and dames with their rings, mere slaves like himself, plus some very well-behaved human resources, and we're very happy that that worked out so well.
	Over to Leo Bravo in Los Angeles.
	Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo.
	I'm at the Meetup No.
	40 at the Flight of the No Agenda.
	I'm passing the phone around.
	Our folks have nice words to say.
	Hey Adam and John, it's Steve.
	In the morning.
	In the morning.
	Bredekit and Trish the Dish here.
	Boomshakalaka.
	Shaka-laka!
	In the morning, it's Dame Kendra.
	Adam, John, we love you.
	Hallelujah.
	In the morning, this is Angie, representing the ranch.
	In the morning, hooey-hooey.
	This is Sir O.G.
	Gontester.
	And the lovely Lady Leanne.
	Blessings to you.
	Ah, Steve Webb and Leanne.
	Nice if they were there.
	We had a great meetup in Northwest Houston, Sir Baron Sir Economic Hickman reported in.
	It was the first one and it was a big success.
	They did not foster a competitive atmosphere, but they laughed a lot.
	Everybody hugged and shared secrets.
	Very good.
	Then we have a big meetup coming in the Netherlands.
	Yes, these things happen all over the world.
	It's a new place.
	It's a new promo.
	Part of it in a different language.
	Yeah, Saturday the 22nd of April is here.
	Cat's Hole, North Brabant, Netherlands.
	The No Agenda Meetup.
	Drinking in the dunes.
	Take your wife with you.
	Take your girlfriend with you.
	But not both at the same time.
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	Cat's Hole, at 2 o'clock.
	And of course...
	In the morning!
	They've now changed, not just the meet-up, but the actual town is considering changing its name from Katzhovel to Katzhol.
	And the mayor wants to have a chat with you, John.
	I'm available on Fridays.
	Let's see, here's what's happening today.
	Okay, the DC meetup, Darius Unity, as he already said, is probably over the happy 420 born day to me.
	However, the Sandy Brigade 3rd Thursday meetup in post-Idaho Falls at Selkirk Abbey kicks off at 5 today.
	Six o'clock, the Virginia, Maryland, West Virginia Tri-State meetup at Union Jack Pub and Restaurant, Winchester, Virginia.
	We have Charlotte's Thursday, 3rd Thursday, 7 o'clock at Ed's Tavern, Charlotte, North Carolina.
	On tomorrow, we have the Spook in the Alley.
	That's in Roanoke, Virginia.
	Man, the spooks are out!
	It's either Indianans or it's spooks.
	That's who's meeting these days, in big numbers.
	That'll be Fork in the Alley, Roanoke, Virginia.
	Saturday, the first ever Nantucket Super Super Mercedes Saturday, no Algo.
	Brotherhood of Thieves, Nantucket.
	Nantucket, I'm very interested to see how many listeners we have in Nantucket.
	Also on Saturday, the Central Ohio Meetup at 2 o'clock at Dempsey's Pub in Columbus, Ohio.
	And Drinking in the Dining, as you just heard, that is the Dutch Meetup, 2 o'clock on Saturday in Cats Hole.
	The Hungarian Hui Hui at Budapest Bonanza, 3 o'clock Central European Central Time in Budapest at Toth.
	Cosma, Sir Otter the Infungible, organizing that.
	And then our next show day, Sunday, the Three Mile Island EVAC Zone, April Atomizer, 3.30 Eastern.
	Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
	And finally, KC's Smokin' Hot Spring BBQ, 330 Central.
	And that's a private home, and that's in Kansas City.
	I must mention the Millennial Media Offensive is having their final Denver meetup on April 27th.
	And they want me to mention that because they will be moving down south, I think, to the Mississippi.
	The Mississippi meetup scene, so they want me to mention that on the 27th there will be an official last Millennial Media offensive meetup.
	Those are the guys who wouldn't let you and Horowitz on the stream.
	They were hogging the stream.
	They were hogging the stream.
	I don't know exactly what happened.
	The horror was sending me messages.
	I can't kick these guys off!
	Okay, I'm Mr. Stream Guy.
	I'll fix it.
	That's your No Agenda Meetups.
	This is something you need in your life.
	You need to have this community because connection is protection.
	No Agenda is your community.
	You will love it.
	It's completely producer-organized.
	And if you can't find one near you, go ahead and start one yourself.
	NoAgendaMeetups.com Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You wanna be where you won't be, triggered or held to blame.
	You wanna be where everybody feels the same.
	Alright, I still got that, uh, this, um, Trans Maoist Report.
	Uh, but first, we need to look at our ISOs.
	I have two today, and I will play number one for you.
	Call the newspapers!
	Democracy is dead!
	And... this one.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	I thought that one would work.
	Well, that competes with my wow.
	Wow.
	Oh, your wow was nothing compared to my wow.
	Wow.
	Wow!
	Alright, we'll do my wow.
	That was a good one.
	That's a good wow.
	Bunch of lunatics.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	I've been reading so much... Maybe that's what Megyn Kelly will want to talk to me about.
	She's all in on hating what's going on with the trans movement.
	On the what?
	The trans movement.
	She's all in on the trans women?
	I'm hating it.
	She hates on it.
	Oh yeah, I watched one of her things recently.
	She's much more adamant about it than we are, that's for sure.
	Yes, well of course.
	And she, I would say her main issue is that this is, you know, this is anti-women.
	Anti-woman.
	Right.
	And that's, and I completely understand why she takes that stance.
	The only problem is... I think you have to go counter.
	What do you mean by... I have an idea of what I'm going to do, but what is your thought?
	How am I going to counter?
	I think you should go counter.
	Say, oh, this is the best thing that's ever happened to this country.
	In fact, I'm thinking of changing my sex myself.
	Oh, that's a great idea, John, but no!
	Oh.
	No, the part she doesn't, she doesn't know about any of the Maoist stuff.
	She hasn't figured that part out.
	Oh, you're gonna drop that bomb on her?
	I think, well, I think I'm gonna start with the Budweiser thing.
	Explain to her my history with Budweiser.
	Okay, I like that.
	I think she'll like that.
	So, we've learned a lot about what's going on and, I mean, there are people stopping me in the street saying, wow, 1445.
	You know, that episode was so mind-blowing about how you took it from what's happening with this gender-affirming care, which by itself is a psyop if you watch the documentary Affirmation Generation.
	Did you ever get a chance to see that?
	I've watched it twice.
	Really?
	I've not watched it twice.
	I've watched it, but not twice.
	This whole pronouns thing bothers me so much that we fell for that.
	You know, it ties your brain up.
	Have you heard of the Stroop test?
	S-T-R-O-O-P?
	The Stroop test.
	For some reason I have, I can't tell you what it is, but I have heard of it.
	Yeah, it's a psychological test where there's a whole bunch of colors written out.
	So say blue, yellow, purple, red, pink, except each color is not the corresponding name.
	So the blue will be in white, pink will be in yellow, yellow will be in green.
	And if you just try to read it, you can't read it very fast because your brain is trying to process two opposing realities.
	You're reading the word blue, but you're seeing white.
	No, it's not that hard to read.
	I just turn off my color vision.
	Okay, thanks.
	So this is very similar to what a pronoun is, particularly when it's they or when it's obviously, you know, an incorrect pronoun.
	And that is used to then, you know, psychologically manipulate the people who are slow, everyone who is slowed down by this.
	I mean, that is, in fact, a very, very slick manipulation.
	Can I ask you a question since you're going to be grunting on this?
	What difference does it make?
	What pronoun do you use?
	Because you never use it with the person.
	Precisely.
	It is a way to disrupt the parent and child relationship.
	You're stupid, Dad.
	It's a them.
	And you don't know.
	You're like, oh, okay.
	You're under-informed, as most parents are.
	We're busy, busy parents.
	But of course, this is all the distraction.
	The distraction is the men in sports, the distraction is the men in the dressing room.
	It's not that I'm downplaying it, but the true trans Maoist movement is 80% of girls who want to transition to boys or to men.
	And the way this is happening is it is truly atrocious.
	It is happening all over the United States and pretty much only now in the United States.
	We'll just reiterate the UK, Finland, Denmark, the Netherlands are all shutting down these practices of medical transitioning.
	Here in America we just hype it up even more and call it gender affirming care.
	The president, the whole administration uses this.
	But when you hear, or for instance, watching that documentary, and I've gotten a lot of our producers emailing me saying, wow, you know, this is happening to my daughter.
	What do I do?
	And I said, Oh, I said, Oh yeah.
	You got some of these too?
	No, but you do.
	I mean, we've talked about this already.
	You have been getting some notes.
	I haven't gotten at least none that I remember.
	I think this bit will work and this may actually get us more listeners.
	From the Megyn Kelly audience.
	Well, I hope so, because it's important for people to, their amygdalas need adjusting because they're all, especially Megyn is, you know, they're psyched out about, you know, these men acting like women.
	And of course, yes, absolutely, there's a percentage of people who have body dysphoria or dysmorphia.
	You pick which one you want.
	Of course.
	It's less than 0.1%.
	Yeah, but it's not 9%, which is what it looks like now for girls who want to transition to boys.
	That's something amiss.
	So there is this, I think this is an English show, it's called Trigonometry, and they had on the trans clinic whistleblower, she worked at the Washington University Transgender Center at St.
	Louis Children's Hospital, Missouri.
	And she actually wrote a blog post back in February about some of her experiences, and they had her on the show.
	I just pulled three relatively short clips, but it says it all as to what's happening, and parents need to take note of this.
	Here's her background just to start off.
	Oh, and by the way, she is very butch-looking.
	I think she's married to a trans man.
	She's an adult.
	My issue is the children that are being coerced into this by the therapists and these types of clinics.
	Just hearing these three clips, if you're interested you'll want to hear her whole interview.
	I'm Jamie Reid.
	I have a Master's of Science in Clinical Research Management and I was previously the caseworker in the Pediatric Transgender Center at a clinic in St.
	Louis, Missouri, so in the middle of the middle of America.
	I started, well I spent about four years and four months in that position.
	I worked at the university previous to working with trans kids.
	I was working with young adults who were HIV positive.
	I have a lot of experience in case management.
	I worked with kids who are in foster care.
	And I've also worked in a lot of medical and health settings, too.
	So I came into the clinic really excited about the opportunity that I thought was going to be to help trans youth and their parents.
	Right.
	So she thought, OK, this is all good.
	I'm going to do some good for the world.
	And pretty soon she saw that this was not Exactly all on the up-and-up.
	Right away I was struck by the lack of organization for the center.
	So there was no real written protocols.
	It seemed like it was kind of a fly by the seat of the pants kind of operation.
	They had already been open for a solid year before I got there, and yet it seemed like they were kind of operating outside of a lot of the normal structures that you'd see in medicine.
	Most of the departments and divisions in medicine have a lot of layers.
	There's a lot of top-heavy, there's a lot of, you know, administrative roles, and it seemed like the center was kind of off on its own, had this little pocket, and I was also struck at the very beginning because the administration of this hospital let this clinic open, and I was told that they originally thought that they were going to have about 50 patients total.
	And when I left, we were close to 2,000.
	Okay, exactly.
	What are the chances all these girls who are trans in St.
	Louis?
	No.
	What is happening, and we've talked about this years ago, maybe not even in this context, but social media, particularly with young girls, there is an absolute, there's something known as social contagion.
	And we talked about this in respect to tics.
	You remember girls would have tics?
	And they'd say, oh, I have Tourette's now.
	And they'd all have tics.
	And it was all coming from social media.
	And some of them, it was just, it was very much, we even looked at some of the history.
	There's been, you call it mass hysteria.
	There have been moments in history where social contagion was so strong that entire towns could not stop laughing for a week.
	You remember that one?
	Yeah, and then there was the June bug thing.
	There was a slew of these.
	What was the June bug thing?
	Oh, people imagine there was some bug.
	It's like the bed bug.
	Remember the bed bug infestation was everywhere?
	Yes, yes.
	And then all of a sudden it's not even in the news anymore.
	The bed bugs are still here.
	But June bugs was similar to the bed bug scare.
	You should look it up.
	It's on the Wikipedia.
	People should look it up.
	And there's no such thing as a June bug, but they were infesting everything and people were finding them and they were getting itchy and it was a period of nuttiness.
	Our clinician here will tell us exactly how this social contagion works, in combination of course, with therapists who will happily after one appointment say, oh yeah, you're clearly trans, let's get you started on some meds pretty soon and we'll get you scheduled for your top surgery.
	This is happening to girls, 80% of all children who are transitioning, who deserve to have Gender-affirming medical care?
	Please be careful of these words which are just, they're just, there's phony words.
	It's sterilization, it's truly mutilation.
	Listen to this.
	I definitely have come to believe that in the United States there is an element of social contagion in play.
	Going on with young people who are seeking out care in gender centers and I'm not the only one to believe that.
	I had lots of parents report very similar things and there were even a number of patients in the center who would report and directly said, I only got this online.
	I think it's well known in medicine that adolescent girls are just more More open and more susceptible to many different kinds of social contagions.
	That has to do with a lot of ways that girls are socialized, but also the way that girls interact in kind of group settings and pick up things and show empathy with those in their group setting, oftentimes by taking on attributes in those group settings.
	So I didn't just see that these kids were picking up gender as a social contagion.
	We have a lot of issues right now in my country with adolescents who are experiencing Tick disorders.
	They think they have Tourette's.
	They don't.
	There's been a recent wave of young people believing that they have what they refer to as DID, so multiple personalities.
	You are seeing these things directly coming from social media.
	There you go.
	That's, there's your culprit right there.
	We have a lot of, I get a lot of DID TikTok videos.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	That we've played on the show.
	The Hawkgirl is my favorite.
	The what?
	The Hawkgirl?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And all social media.
	And I'll bet you, especially TikTok, I'll bet you TikTok, this is where TikTok truly is going to be very bad.
	Because we know their algorithm pulls in everything, you know, the stuff that you are completely in love with and interested, and they don't put any counterweight into that.
	No.
	And this is where it's coming from.
	Now if they just said that, let's get rid of TikTok for that reason, I think people might be more into it.
	Yeah.
	So this is, this is a very bad situation that we're in.
	And I don't know how we get out of it, John.
	I mean, other than just keep saying that this is being pulled back in all of Europe, all the countries who are leading with it are stopping the arguments.
	I think that's a good argument.
	There's always a start in it.
	Kind of.
	Yeah.
	And they're the ones pulling back.
	But meanwhile, Colorado, you know, signed as the first state that, oh, if you're transgender and you want treatment, we can do transgender treatment tourism.
	Come on over to Colorado.
	We're all for your gender-affirming care.
	And parents, they don't know what to do.
	Man, they're hopeless.
	Poor parents are dumb.
	I don't know if they're dumb.
	Yes.
	That's not fair.
	I mean, when you have all these doctors telling you that this is a thing and this is what your kid has, I mean, you've been taught to trust the doctor.
	Yeah, well, that was a mistake, wasn't it?
	Yes, but, you know, you can't call them dumb.
	That's not fair.
	Yeah, you can.
	I can.
	Maybe you can't.
	No, I can.
	For sure, I can.
	Here, play this DeSantis gender ban.
	This is NPR's take on things.
	Florida's Board of Education has signed off on a ban on classroom instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity in all grades.
	The board passed a proposal today which says it will take effect after a procedural notice period that usually lasts about a month.
	Republican Governor Ron DeSantis put the measure forward last month as part of a conservative agenda as he gears up for an expected presidential run.
	It would ban lessons on sexual orientation and gender identity from grades four through twelve.
	Such lessons are already banned in kindergarten through third grade.
	Man.
	The fact that you'd have to ban them kindergarten through third grade is beyond me.
	I can't believe we have this conversation, even.
	And these people who are doing this are evil!
	And a lot of them are former... I just call them dumb, but you're pushing it.
	No, the doctors.
	The doctors doing this are not dumb.
	They're evil.
	Well, the medical system is not performing properly.
	And you have to blame it on the top guys.
	The guys who run the AMA, for example.
	The licensing professionals.
	The same guys who threatened to license to the doctors in Canada who said, well, I don't know, maybe we shouldn't take this shot.
	Maybe try ivermectin.
	So there was an interview on CNBC with the Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration.
	The guy's name is Robert Califf.
	And he's actually been, this is the second time he's administrated.
	I'll get to that in a moment.
	And he was interviewed, now this, you just got to understand, this guy is probably about 65.
	He's wearing a bow tie, a Republic of California bow tie.
	Ugh, bad signal.
	Yeah, I mean, what does that even say about someone who does that?
	As the FDA commissioner, when you wear a Republic of California bow tie, what is up with that?
	What are you trying to say?
	I'm asking you a question.
	Do you know what these men who do this are trying to communicate?
	Well, in publishing people... somebody described it to me once as tying yourself in it with a bow tie if you're male in this, you know, after 19... let's see, bow ties are kind of popular in the 70s on and off.
	After 1990, you wear a bow tie, you're tying yourself as a gift, as a Christmas gift, this is your little bow.
	I'm perfect.
	I'm a good boy.
	I'm perfect.
	He has a good boy look.
	Well, he's not.
	There's something sick about it.
	Yes.
	Even Tucker, who used to wear a bow tie all the time, stopped doing it.
	I haven't forgotten that.
	It's not a style anymore.
	No.
	It's a statement.
	Does that mean I'm also just following orders, maybe?
	I'm a good boy.
	I'm a good boy.
	I think good boy.
	I'm a good boy.
	Well, he is a good boy.
	Good boy.
	He does the job.
	But, but, he is angry.
	Well, I mean angry.
	He doesn't really get angry, but he misses the good old days.
	Well, I know that misinformation has been a big priority here at FDA.
	What are you guys doing about it?
	And do you have optimism that you can make a dent in it?
	We've talked about this before, and you know, as I like to say, when you're FDA Commissioner, people return your calls.
	I've called all the experts.
	We've talked.
	We know more and more about misinformation.
	It relates back to this life expectancy.
	Why aren't we using knowledge of diet?
	It's not that people don't know about it.
	Why aren't we using medical products as effectively and efficiently as our peer countries?
	A lot of it has to do with choices that people make because of the things that influence their thinking.
	The COVID vaccines and the antivirals give us an easy way to talk about it, but this is not limited to those areas.
	In heart disease, so many people don't take their medicines, even though they're now generic and very low cost, often deluded to taking things that are sold over the internet that aren't affected.
	Effective.
	So, how do we deal with this?
	First of all, you gotta tell the truth in a louder volume.
	In the good old days, when I was a practicing cardiologist for the most part, you know, people developed products, they got through the FDA, the label determined what was talked about, the internet didn't exist, you advertised in medical meetings and journals.
	There's sort of a hierarchy of information that went through the prescriber or the implanter, in the case of devices, to the patient.
	Of course, the problem with that system is it left a lot of people out.
	We now know about that.
	Now, everyone's included because everyone's connected to the Internet.
	But we can put out a statement about what we've determined based on the highest level of evidence.
	Within 10 minutes, someone who's thought 10 minutes about it can reach a billion people.
	So he misses the good old days when you can just throw it on the news and put it in the New York Times and everyone would believe you and be all good.
	And now, oh no, it sucks because you have people talking against us.
	And why would he know all about this?
	Because he was hired during Obama's second term in office in 2017.
	He left for a year.
	And where did he go?
	How did your experience working in the tech industry, working at Alphabet, impact how you think about the role of the tech industry in helping try to stop some of this misinformation or disinformation?
	Well, you know, one thing about it is I've found that in the tech industry, just as I've found in the device and pharma industries and in government, we're mostly all good people.
	We're all trying to do the right thing.
	But we work in environments under a set of rules that sometimes aren't optimal.
	And I don't think anybody in the tech industry had any idea it was going to get to the place it has.
	Now we've got large language models.
	People think you'd call it chat GPT, which really stands for a whole set of technologies.
	And so it's moving faster than the human system is able to adapt to it.
	And so, again, you think about the impact of a single person reaching a billion people on the Internet all over the world.
	We just weren't prepared for that.
	We don't have societal rules that are adjudicating it quite right.
	And I think it's impacting our health in very detrimental ways.
	So he just casually worked for about a year and a half at Google and then came back.
	Yes.
	Mr. Bowtie.
	This is a rather peculiar interview.
	He didn't say Jack.
	No, but it's clear that, and I think, I think part of what these guys see, this AI, is the new thing to trust.
	Because we don't, the trust in doctors is waning, and anybody on the internet, but you know what people do trust now?
	Oh, chat GPT, oh yeah, oh yeah.
	AI, oh AI said so.
	I think they're counting on that.
	I really think that they might be counting on that.
	Well, they're idiots.
	Okay, well there you go.
	What can I tell you?
	Hey, let's play this news, breaking news.
	Okay.
	This is interesting.
	Netflix DVD story.
	Have you heard this?
	Uh, maybe not.
	First Blockbuster, now Netflix.
	Well, not all of it.
	After 25 years, the company is ending its DVD by delivery service.
	Yes, it does still exist.
	And yes, people still do use it.
	My kids love to make fun of me because I like so many black and white films.
	And so just the access to classic films and obscure films, foreign films, that sort of thing was great.
	That's John Wallace in Nashville, Tennessee.
	He has the regular Netflix streaming service, but he and his family have used the DVD delivery system for about 18 years.
	I didn't know they were still delivering DVDs by mail.
	Did you know this?
	I thought they gave that up.
	They're already talking about password sharing issues.
	I just found that to be the most peculiar story.
	Yeah?
	Doesn't surprise me.
	Why not?
	Not everybody is on the web these days.
	Yeah, but I still thought they couldn't be making any money doing that.
	So I have another offbeat clip.
	Oh, here's an abortion factoid.
	Did you know this?
	Well, I don't know what the factoid is, so how can I know what it is?
	I've been asking you.
	It's like an Ask Adam.
	I'm going to have you play the clip of abortion factoid, and then I'm saying, did you know this?
	At issue, a lower court ruling that rolled back the Food and Drug Administration's 23-year-old approval of Mifepristone.
	About half of all abortions in the United States are medication abortions.
	I did know that.
	I mean, I've been following- You knew that half of the abortions are medication abortions?
	Yes.
	Yes, I- Well, I didn't know that.
	I've been following this- I thought it was a coat hanger or something.
	No, you know, you are- you're really not- this is- you should calm down.
	It's just the fact they didn't know.
	Did you know?
	Oh, here's a good one.
	Well, can you stop for a second?
	Yeah.
	So, what is interesting about this is that now what everyone is waiting to see is if this will go to the Supreme Court, if the Supreme Court will take up this case, which I honestly, I don't see why the Supreme Court has any business doing this at all.
	I mean, but... They already took it up and they kicked it back.
	Well, they didn't kick it back, they did put it on postponement.
	It's going to be Friday or the next week.
	Yeah, it's a Friday, so they haven't kicked anything back.
	No, they picked it up.
	Yeah, well no, they postponed it until Friday and then, that's tomorrow, and then we'll hear if they pick it up or not.
	But if they pick it up, or let's say they don't pick it up, can you have any drug available to kill anybody?
	I mean, I think there's a lot here.
	I don't think they want to pick it up.
	I don't think they'll touch it either.
	I don't think they should touch it.
	No.
	No.
	I have an NPR report if people need to know that.
	It's called Supreme Court and the Abortion Pill NPR.
	The Supreme Court has temporarily extended access to a commonly used abortion pill until Friday.
	Justices are still considering whether to allow restrictions on Mifepristone to take effect, while a legal challenge to the medication's FDA approval continues.
	In an order signed by Justice Samuel Alito, the court indicated it will act by Friday night.
	The decision comes following a ruling by a judge in Texas seeking to invalidate FDA approval of the drug despite its 20-plus year record of safe use.
	Since the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to an abortion last summer, political and legal battles have focused on medications used for abortions.
	Oh, man.
	Whatever happened to, you know, wear a condom?
	I mean, that's what it used to be.
	I mean, it was like abortion was if the condom broke.
	You know, somehow we've just forgotten them.
	That's what I grew up with.
	And then for a long time, I was like, age does not have sex at all.
	Well, in Maoist and communist societies, abortion is the number one birth control methodology.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	And that's exactly it.
	If it's time for you to have a child, we'll create that in the lab and all the others.
	We can just, you know, just have fun having sex.
	Don't worry about anything.
	You're right.
	That is entirely the Maoist system.
	And we're running towards it at breakneck speed.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to play you a short Fifi Lagarde clip.
	Christine Lagarde, since the last time we played it, two weeks later, everybody had discovered this thing that she said.
	Remember that?
	I don't yet.
	Yes, you do.
	It was the two Russians who punked her.
	And then she said, oh yeah, October, Digital Euro's coming, October.
	We played all this.
	We deconstructed the whole interview.
	And then two weeks later, people are sending me, oh, this is a great clip.
	This is an old clip.
	Yeah.
	So this is a new clip of her speaking at the Council on Foreign Relations.
	Actually, this is after her speech.
	Oh, man.
	Where she first calls for a... Actually, I should play this.
	Europe, be prepared.
	This is what your president of your central bank wants.
	The single most important factor influencing international currency usage remains the strength of fundamentals.
	And by that we know that it is the rule of law, a strong, respected institution, as well as open capital markets.
	By the same token, for Europe, long-delayed projects such as deepening and integrating our capital markets can no longer be viewed solely through the lens of domestic financial policy.
	To put it bluntly, we need to complete the European Capital Markets Union.
	This will be pivotal in determining whether the euro remains among the leading global currencies or others, those exotic ones that I mentioned earlier on, take its place.
	Yeah, so there you go.
	The capital union, what they said would never happen.
	You can have one bank and you can have European taxes.
	This is exactly what they said they would never do, along with there will never be an EU army, and of course now there is.
	And then the second part is where she uses crypto to usher in that which she predicted would happen in October anyway.
	I'm not impressed by cryptos.
	As I said, I see them as liabilities more than assets.
	I respect that people want to produce speculative instruments.
	If they're prepared to lose it all, that's fine.
	I'm very concerned that it's seducing young people who don't really understand what they're getting into.
	And one of the reasons I have pushed our project of the digital euro has to do with the fact that our societies are becoming more and more digital and we cannot just operate with central bank money that is comprised of banknotes, coins for the central bank money.
	The rest is commercial bank money and I'm convinced that we must be able to produce a digital central bank currency.
	And I'm using all the words.
	Currency, central bank, digital.
	That's what we should be able to produce as well as having a payment infrastructure that is conducive to fast, cheaper, more efficient payments cross-border.
	I don't think she could be more clear.
	Central bank digital currency for Europe.
	Coming in October.
	She also had, I think in the same speech, she said something about if you do a transaction in cash over $1,000, it's going to be illegal.
	Well, that was in the previous video we had when she said that.
	Oh yeah.
	No, they were taking it down to $300.
	Not $1,000.
	Down to $300.
	$200 to $300.
	thousand down to three hundred two to three hundred oh yeah europe has no idea what these idiots are up to and this was no they're not They should.
	Oh yeah.
	Well, yes, the ones who listen to our show.
	That's for sure.
	Let's see.
	Mayor Eric Adams.
	This guy's been a disappointment, huh?
	No, not at all, not in the least.
	We've got one guy, one of our producers that can do his voice.
	You mean for the show?
	No, for the show, he's a gem.
	I'm thinking for... Oh, you mean for an actual mayor?
	For the citizens of New York.
	Oh, the guy's horrible, and now he wants the robo-dogs to take over the place?
	Not only that... Have you seen that other robot that looks like a giant dildo that's going to be wandering around?
	Holy mackerel!
	That doesn't have facial recognition, they say.
	What's the point?
	He's going after your beef, New York.
	One in every five metric tons of carbon dioxide our city emits comes from food.
	But all food is not created equal.
	The vast majority of food that is contributing to our emission crisis lies in meat and dairy products.
	There you go!
	We already know that a plant-powered diet is better for your physical and mental health.
	Oh, shit!
	Well, you gotta wait.
	You gotta listen to what he says.
	Better for your physical and mental health, and I am living proof of that.
	Oh my god, he can barely get out his sins without sounding like an idiot.
	That's what I like to say.
	You're saying that word too often.
	I am proof that he's melting down.
	And then this, just sticking on climate for a second.
	I got climate.
	Good, I'll play this one, then we'll hear your climate.
	This is, I think this is Representative LaMalfa, and questions the House Transport Committee With actually a simple, I mean, the House Transport Committee, it's all about climate change with those guys, electric vehicles, everything.
	Oh, we have to, you know, transportation!
	And he has a very simple climate question.
	Panelists, let me just go right down the vine real fast.
	What percent of our atmosphere is CO2?
	Take your best guess.
	You don't have to be accurate.
	All down the line.
	Repeat that question.
	What percent of our atmosphere is CO2, carbon dioxide?
	Wild guess.
	It's okay.
	About five percent.
	Five?
	I'll just follow you.
	What's my favorite number?
	I'll see there five and suggest that we know that transportation causes 49% of CO2, so that's why we're all working on energy transition.
	All right.
	So what number do you think it is?
	Five.
	Five.
	How about you?
	I didn't hear you, Mr. Dreher.
	Seven.
	Seven.
	Did you have one, Mr. Lloyd?
	So we got a 5-7.
	Price is right.
	8.
	I'm going to get the high end.
	Alright.
	Well, I appreciate that, and I don't mean to put you on ice.
	I ask a lot of people that because all we hear is climate change, climate change, CO2, CO2.
	I heard a couple of you on the panel saying you're looking to change your vehicles to electric, even though we don't have the electric grid.
	And me, as a farmer, I wouldn't be real happy about running out and replacing $300,000, $500,000, $1 million pieces of equipment because someone wants it to be electric.
	The answer is .04%.
	Not 1%, not 0.5%.
	It's 0.04% and it's gone up from 0.03 over the last couple decades.
	This is what we're being all contorted into doing is this tiny change in CO2.
	If we get below 0.02, plant life starts dying off.
	I love that part!
	Is that true?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, plants need at least 0.2.
	What's funny is that those idiots that are up there testifying don't have a clue where they can't answer that simple question.
	I mean if you think about what's his name is Project 350 350 parts per million is the 3.03 but they haven't I got the biggest kick out of listening to something on NPR where they had this plant guy he's doing a greenhouse thing He says, yeah, I got these plants to grow three times bigger.
	I just pump in a bunch of CO2 into the greenhouse and these things grow like crazy.
	We need a lot more CO2.
	We would grow bigger, plants would grow bigger, we would be healthier.
	We are slowly being killed by this nonsense.
	Well, they're gonna get killed in Texas.
	Here we go.
	Okay.
	I love the Texas clips.
	This is Climate Texas versus the Glacier.
	Rebecca Hersher from NPR's Climate Desk traveled to Galveston, Texas to explain that connection.
	Wow, wow.
	She's from the Climate Desk.
	She left her Climate Desk to travel to Galveston, Texas.
	We're far from Antarctica, on an island in the Gulf of Mexico.
	This is Galveston, Texas, gateway to one of the busiest ports in the country, home to a cruise terminal, a university, 50,000 residents, and miles of sandy beaches.
	Like a lot of people here, Jerry Davila comes down to the water to relax.
	I love just staring at the water.
	It's a great stress reliever just to look at it.
	But families who have lived in Galveston for a long time also know that the water can be dangerous.
	It's the number one threat to this city's existence.
	So I'm June Collins Pulliam and we are here in Galveston at our family home that's been here for about 120 years.
	120 years because the house that used to be on this exact spot was destroyed, swept away by the ocean during a storm in the year 1900.
	Wait a minute.
	Yes?
	In 1900, and there was no climate change issues.
	No.
	It wiped out this woman's house and I guess, you know, there was the great flood of Galveston flood in 1900.
	It was a horrible, the worst catastrophe in the history of the United States.
	That seems some time ago.
	Yes, I would say it was 220 plus years ago.
	So if things are bad, it should have been getting worse and worse and worse.
	The whole Galveston Island should be gone.
	Should be just toast.
	Gone.
	That's right.
	It's not.
	Not for the want of hoping.
	Let's go with part two.
	Is the sound of the ice cracking apart one of the most elemental sounds of climate change?
	What?
	What?
	We've never heard that.
	I had to skip ahead.
	This is a long report.
	So she has plays.
	She doesn't play anything, but it's the sound of ice.
	When the ice in a giant glacier cracks, it makes a noise.
	But she called that the iconic sound.
	Oh yeah, it's the iconic sound.
	I don't know what it sounds like.
	You don't know what it sounds like.
	I don't know how it's iconic, but it is.
	It's cracking apart.
	One of the most elemental Elemental sounds of climate change.
	Elemental sounds.
	This melting glacier in West Antarctica is threatening people who live thousands of miles away in sunny Texas.
	We actually have first-hand accounts of what happened from oral histories.
	This is Pulliam's great-aunt, Annie Smyser McCullough, who was in her early 20s when the storm hit.
	Oh, it was an awful thing you wanted me to tell you, but it No tongue can tell it!
	The wind was so strong and those waves was coming so... Well, I don't guess you want to hear all of that.
	Yes we do!
	of wind and water was added by producers.
	- The wind was so strong and those waves was coming, so, well, I don't guess you wanna hear all of that.
	- Yes, we do, we want it! - And... - I can't believe that she disclosed they added the sound effects.
	Why would you bust yourself like that?
	I don't know.
	What an opportunity.
	And then the crazy thing is the old lady says, I don't think you want to hear it.
	And then they're all yelling, yeah!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah!
	Let's go!
	Yeah, let's hear it!
	Let's hear it!
	All right.
	Third clip.
	Yeah, go for it.
	McCullough barely survived.
	The family's home and most of the city were destroyed.
	At least 6,000 people died.
	It's still the most deadly weather disaster in recorded U.S.
	history.
	But the city survived, thanks in large part to a massive concrete wall that was built after the storm.
	A wall so tall that engineers said it would protect the city from the ocean forever.
	The wall is still here today.
	I drove out to look at it with Kelly Burks Copes from the Army Corps of Engineers.
	So this is 17 feet high?
	17 feet high and 10 miles long.
	It runs basically the length of the city.
	It's covered in murals.
	There's a four-lane road along the top.
	We're on the seawall.
	So the seawall is where the bulk of the condos are.
	This is where people come and stay in hotels.
	They walk across Seawall Boulevard, which is the road we're driving on.
	They drop down off of the 17-foot seawall on stairs, not jumping.
	And they go out to the beach.
	On a calm day, it's difficult to imagine that water could ever come over the top of this wall.
	It really does look like it will protect the city forever.
	And maybe it would have, if not for climate change.
	Ugh!
	Ugh!
	Alright, but people are... it's not working anymore.
	The psychological warfare... I am in total disagreement.
	Yeah, well I'm going to play you, this will be the final clip.
	I would warn everyone, there's a lot of F-bombs in this one.
	It is Young Turks, the Young Turks Show, with Chunk, who turns out to be just, I mean, like you didn't know, he was an elitist douchebag.
	Wait, are they throwing F-bombs around the Young Turks show?
	Oh yeah, Anna Kasparian.
	Oh, she's the worst.
	But listen to what's happening with her.
	She's starting to connect the dots.
	She's starting to figure out that she's been hoodwinked and she's so mad that she just keeps dropping the F-bombs.
	Oh yeah, she's the type that if she figures out she's been hoodwinked, she'll go nuts.
	It's like the people who quit smoking.
	Well, listen to this.
	The way that it happens is, I know that in California at least, with the phasing out of gas powered cars, and they'll probably do the same thing with gas stoves, is they just ban the sale of any new gas powered cars or any new gas stoves.
	And so the technology that you have in your home, the gas stove that you have in your home, if it breaks Not only are you not able to buy a new one, but it gets increasingly more difficult to just repair it.
	You get what I'm saying?
	And so like- I get it, but that's the normal bumps in the road.
	Listen to this elitist cock.
	No, I get it.
	But you know, that's just a normal bump in the road.
	You know, I can just replace it.
	I'm Chunk from the Young Turks.
	Not only are you not able to buy a new one, but it gets increasingly more difficult to just repair it.
	You get what I'm saying?
	And so like- I get it, but that's the normal bumps in the road as you transition to things.
	I know, but Cenk, like, don't minimize the financial burdens associated with these things, okay?
	Because like, I am literally freaking the fuck out- Ah, here we go!
	Oh, Chunk, whoa!
	About the charging station thing.
	We're gonna take out a massive fucking loan to pay for it!
	We're not getting any help from the fucking government on that!
	Did you guys ask, is there any tax credits?
	No, but seriously.
	Okay, so now Chunk goes again with the, well, you know, you little people like you, Anna, of course, you're just a hired gun.
	You can get a, didn't you inquire about your tax credits?
	Can't you get a tax credit?
	And it's amazing, Anna Kasparian turning into a human being before your very eyes.
	You say there's no government help at all, this translation, you guys?
	I don't give a fuck about tax credits.
	No, no, I'm saying for the HOA.
	Well, I mean, for those of you who are stuck in an HOA, unlike me, I'm chunk.
	I have a mansion, but you have to get some tax credits somehow.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Oh, she's figured out that you actually have to pay for something before the tax credits kick in.
	There's been no talk of tax credits.
	I haven't seen anything about tax credits.
	I should look into it.
	Maybe there are tax credits, but I don't give a fuck about tax credits because you have to shell out cash.
	OK, like I just.
	Oh, she's figured out that you actually have to pay for something before the tax credits kick in.
	This is she's she's she's melting down.
	I want to do something in response to climate change.
	That is not my issue here.
	My issue is how we're forced to make all these changes that are a financial burden, a giant inconvenience, with little to no help.
	And the solution from the government, in terms of like, no, no, you get financial benefits for doing this, is fucking tax credits.
	No, I don't want the tax credits.
	Give me the money.
	Oh, there it is!
	I want money!
	You give me the money, okay?
	Don't tell me this bullshit about how I have to buy some new fucking thing because the government's forcing me to do it.
	And then, like, after I file my taxes, there's a certain portion of that purchase that might be tax deductible.
	Like, fuck off!
	This is so, this is so, I love that she is doing this publicly.
	It's so, this is, this is very therapeutic for her.
	Go, Anna!
	We're on your side!
	I can't, I'm so sick of it!
	It's just like... And a chunk.
	I hear you, but, I hear you, but... Listen, that purchase that might be tax deductible, like, fuck off!
	I can't, I'm so sick of it!
	It's just like, mmm, like, endless pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure!
	I can't take it!
	Yeah, I hear you.
	And we ask too much of the middle class, we ask too much of the average person.
	Oh, the middle class is the most fucked group of people in this country.
	No, I hear you on all that.
	I hear you on all that.
	I hear you.
	But that's not me.
	Don't worry, Anna, that's not me.
	At some point, we gotta go to electric cars.
	We don't have a choice.
	Like, the planet's burning, so we gotta go to electric cars.
	Oh, John!
	The planet's burning!
	So, when California says, I mean, how can he sit there with a straight face while she's melting down and say, well, you know, I mean, you know, okay, middle class is too bad, but the planet's burning.
	Is the planet burning?
	Is that, is that the window?
	If you see anything, I don't see anything burning in Texas.
	No, nothing burning here.
	No, there's nothing burning.
	It's country.
	No, I hear you on all that.
	But at some point, we gotta go to electric cars.
	We don't have a choice.
	We don't have a choice!
	Like, the plant's burning, so we gotta go to electric cars.
	So, when California says, hey, let's go to electric cars by whatever the number is, 2025, etc.
	Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be tough, but... But, you know, not for me, because I'm chunk!
	At the same time, now prices are coming down.
	Oh, they're getting cheaper!
	No, they're not!
	Right?
	Let's not minimize the cost of, like, actually charging those cars, right?
	Right?
	Okay.
	By the way, she's going to screw up here.
	She's going to say electric, but she means gasoline.
	Because here's the other thing.
	So Gavin Newsom pushes for and succeeds in passing legislation in California that would ban the sale of electric cars.
	She means gas cars.
	At a certain year, I think it is 2025 if I'm not mistaken.
	Maybe not.
	Maybe it's 2035.
	I don't remember the exact year.
	But eventually, pretty soon, you're no longer going to be able to buy a gas-powered car in California.
	Literally that same month, Kevin Newsom's like, there's a heat wave and our energy grid really can't handle it.
	And so I'm just gonna ask you guys, if you have electric vehicles, please don't charge them right now.
	It's just- No, you can't do that.
	I mean, she's figuring it out.
	No, she's not.
	Yes, she is!
	It's just a personal thing with her.
	She likes gas stoves.
	I have hope for Anna Kasparian.
	Yeah.
	Well, you do.
	I don't.
	Well...
	I did like this.
	It's a good clip, though.
	It's good.
	It's funny.
	Go, Anna.
	Go, Anna.
	You can do it, Anna.
	You can do it.
	No, she can't.
	It's the milieu, man.
	It's the milieu.
	Sunday will be another deconstruction, and I have... Oh, I've got to talk about this after the show.
	We have two great shows.
	One for the Thursday, which will be the day after my surgery.
	So I won't be able to do the show, and then in case I can't do the Sunday, we have another one, but hopefully I'll be able to do that.
	Yes, I'm aware of the situation.
	A compilation of shows 1 through 100.
	It's dynamite.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we have to do some, yeah.
	It's gonna be good.
	We've got great people that do stuff.
	We do.
	Coming up next, we have, what do we have here?
	Bowl after Bowl, the special 420 show, of course.
	And we have end of show mixes from Dee's Laughs and Mr. Information.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
	6.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
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	Please join us then.
	Until then, remember us at dvorak.org.
	Um... A hooey hooey.
	And such.
	Adios.
	First thing in the morning, I'm thanking God.
	We owe our life to him, this Darwinism is at odds.
	It's time to go along to get along his past.
	Memory hold the narrative and shine light upon the cast.
	New word I learned from millennials called the trauma dump.
	These snowflakes don't judge unless your name is Donald Trump.
	We'll be right back.
	Habits formed for good or bad.
	Stick to your word and maybe do what you say.
	Back to my writing.
	Yeah.
	Back on my hobby course.
	Defeated us for three years.
	They governed us with no remorse.
	Don Lemon says a woman is past her prime.
	In her forties and was beat up by the liberal slime.
	I guess I'll end it with something light.
	Yeah.
	I guess I'll end it with something that ain't right.
	Dalai Lama asking the kid, hey, suck my tongue.
	The kiss was a bit much.
	Do they think we're really that dumb?
	It was in that moment, and they told this story about how sticking one's tongue out is known as a traditional greeting in Tibet.
	And it stems from a 9th century myth about an unpopular king.
	And after they told this whole story, they concluded it by then saying, tongue sucking does not appear to be part of this tradition.
	Thank you, NPR, for telling us a meaningless story then.
	This is something that's not real.
	It's something that stirs up hatred, stirs up division, and serves someone or some entity that benefits from our show.
	Show notes strictly digital.
	You cannot tear this on a single point of attention.
	A state of infinite awareness.
	Die a renegade.
	Live long enough to flip flop.
	Attacks on Mr. Information or attacks on Hip Hop.
	So, peace to the trolls.
	Feel free to quote this, I don't criticize the little guys, cause rap is atrocious.
	Crackin' buzz fleas, quit rockin' with those rumble geeks.
	You suck at MCs, get caught in the breeze, like Bumblebees.
	I'm just a douchebag labeled Danny Vax.
	Smoke a loose bag, perusing a news rag, wearing a fanny pack.
	Ayo Andrew Cuomo, are you the man to ask?
	Was it a plan to tack-tack?
	Where's my granny rap?
	And where's Chrissy?
	Probably out in Alpens.
	Shmoozin' with more spooks than Luis.
	The light from the heavens shines brightest on the seventh day.
	When life gives you darn lemons, make fuckin' lemonade.
	JCD's doin' when they speak congruent to that news model type of speech.
	MGR, always quick to preach.
	Woke haters go toe-to-toe, tryin' to say I'm not a slave.
	That's a joke, pass the smoke.
	I do believe that I stay flowin' with the game and the fury.
	Adam Curry, Back when the flames drafted flurry.
	Connection is protection from elections and corruption.
	No selections, misdirections, insurrections are productions.
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