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1521: Healthscare System

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	Hey, guess what?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, January 15, 2023.
	This is your world-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1521.
	This is no agenda.
	We are classified and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're all asking the question, how do you blow a 27-point lead?
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Here I was, thinking that you'd have a Miss Universe opening, but no, it's sports.
	Yeah, I haven't seen the Miss Universe things.
	This is your beat!
	No, it was my beat five years ago, and we made a decision that we were gonna stop it.
	You got sick of it.
	Did I really get sick of it?
	No, I don't think that's true.
	I think so, yeah.
	I don't know, I don't think.
	Although we jointly got sick of it, but we were sick of it.
	Apparently Miss America won.
	Of course, it was in New Orleans.
	They always do that.
	It's a scam.
	Where did Miss Ukraine come in?
	Not even in the top 20 as far as I know.
	Well, you don't know, though.
	No, I looked at the top five.
	I looked at the top 20.
	She wasn't in there, so I don't know what happened.
	Well, I know what didn't happen.
	What didn't happen?
	She didn't do her job.
	I gotta play one clip for you.
	I didn't see it, obviously.
	You know me.
	I didn't see it.
	This is the owner of the pageant.
	Yeah, who used to be Donald Trump.
	Yes, now it's Anjakrajutatip?
	It's easy for you to say.
	Listen to this.
	The Miss Universe organization from now on is gonna be ran by women.
	Owned by a trans woman.
	Owned by a trans woman.
	Oh, that's great.
	Crazy!
	For all women!
	For all women!
	Yeah!
	Women!
	The world has officially gone crazy.
	Well, it is kind of nutty.
	So the freeway's backed up completely.
	It's like majorly backed up.
	Back to important news.
	Yes, okay.
	The freeway's backed up.
	I've never seen this ever.
	So it's backed up and so the fire truck, there's a fire truck trying to get there, you know, trying to go along the soft shoulder to get there.
	But it wasn't a regular fire truck.
	And I can't imagine what's going on at the end of this wreck, whatever it is.
	Oh.
	It was a hook and ladder.
	Yeah.
	What do you need a hook and ladder for at a traffic wreck?
	Unless the cars are piled high.
	Maybe it's all they had left.
	Maybe everything else was on duty.
	I don't think so.
	You know what you need?
	You know what you need?
	I'm gonna, okay.
	When it's your birthday, everybody remind me, remind me everybody, when it's your birthday, I am giving you a Bearcat scanner.
	You need... Oh, I could use a Bearcat, yeah.
	You need to sit there by your window and go, hey!
	Whoa, hey, get over there!
	You know, they actually have a good CHP...
	sighted me me listen that's not the point they post it though no no you want the old school with the lights going yeah but then you put crystals in it yes what i hey guess what there's a wreck there's a wreck there on the 80 do you remember the bearcats you had to buy crystals of the right frequency and stick them in there so that you could see frequency oh it's the best part there's the these days they're all um they're all encrypted that's what Everyone's going to encryption.
	People are kind of worried about that because now you can't listen to what the cops or your services are doing.
	You used to be able to just listen.
	Yeah, well, you still can around here.
	Oh, they're encrypting everywhere.
	They are encrypting.
	It's all digital.
	I do have some important news that I would like to share from boots on the ground, and I'm going to set it up with this short clip.
	Operations at the FAA and major airlines have returned to normal, but the lingering effects of yesterday's outage that grounded flights, that may take days to recover from.
	More than 4,500 flights were disrupted today, mostly because of the bad weather.
	More than 12,000 were delayed or canceled on Wednesday.
	The FAA is blaming a damaged database file in a system that is nearly 30 years old.
	And, of course, this resulted in calls for upgrading the system and money for the Department of Transportation, run by Mayor Pete.
	But for 15 years we've been doing this show, we have held one group of people in very high regard, that being sysadmins, IT administrators, dudes named Ben, dudettes named Bernadette.
	And the reason why we've always done that is because, A, they're shit on in every single corporation.
	IT's no good!
	And we know that they truly hold the keys to the, and I think maybe for that whole time we've always said when it really comes down to it, it's not going to be the ham radio operators, it's going to be the sysadmins who are going to save the world, or at least save those who are nice to them.
	So I have confirmed from two Cishadmin sources known to me, and know and confirm that they are in the right areas, that the NOTAM ground stop was in fact a cyber intrusion.
	The one in the US and in Canada.
	I'm glad somebody finally came up with some information for us.
	But here's what's weird.
	Because it never may, the fat finger thing is always suspicious.
	And didn't they immediately come out and say, not a cyber intrusion!
	That's always suspicious.
	Before doing any investigation, come out with some statement like that.
	So what happened was someone, as they say, popped the system, they were in, and they were changing things, but weird things, like instead of three lights are out, one lights out.
	Not really big things and it's confirmed by yet another source who works on infrastructure NOTAM input that you know things were quote-unquote wonky like things wouldn't stick or maybe things went in wrong it was just inconsistent.
	So the question is Was this someone mucking around just to create some confusion and get the desired result of more money and etc?
	Was it someone looking to enter other systems?
	And no one has an explanation as to why all the jets were scrambled right after that happened, and the airborne tankers.
	There's no explanation for that from anyone, but everyone knows it.
	There's more than just those two possibilities.
	There's the possibility of a goofball.
	Yeah, oh, totally, totally, totally.
	Goofball.
	And there was a possibility of a bad actor who was just testing the system to see how far he could get before someone noticed.
	There's a lot of possibilities.
	But the one possibility, obvious, was the bad actor that required the scrambling of jets.
	But the fact that the media... Now, this is just second-hand information for us, but it makes more sense than the stories we've been given.
	Absolutely.
	Especially with the jets flying around.
	Yeah.
	That's the part that's very odd.
	And, you know, as if they were... I think the quote is, they probably had eyes on someone.
	I don't know what that means.
	I don't know what that means.
	So that's it.
	Your government lies to you once again.
	Of course.
	It's kind of pathetic how much they do that.
	It really is.
	So I have, talking about lying, I have a... Welcome to the show!
	I have about... I have a lot of clips on this Biden thing with these different perspectives on what's really going on, and I have two or three different perspectives than the one we came up with, and I'd like if you want to discuss it now or later.
	Of course, no, let's go for it.
	I mean, so we've had the real news, which was cyber intrusion in our federal aviation airspace systems.
	No, no, no.
	News media.
	Concentrate on this.
	It's the prime time takedown of the president.
	Or it's not.
	I've heard some other words.
	The other thing is we could talk more about the other if you wanted to, but we don't have any information.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	I meant the mainstream media is all over this.
	Oh, no, they won't touch the other thing because it might, you know, might, I don't know.
	Someone might find out what the truth is.
	Somebody might find out what's going on.
	Can't have that.
	So we can only deconstruct what we have in front of us.
	So let's start with the thesis that you brought forth, which is that the thing was an op that started with Trump.
	They find his docs and then they were just trying to get rid of Joe.
	And then, I don't have any clips from this, but I'll mention Tucker Carlson's thesis, which is very similar to yours, except it began with, he doesn't have the elaboration where Trump's Discovery has anything to do with it, but he felt that the day that Biden said, I'm going to run for re-election, they went after him for that.
	This is what I've heard as well.
	Okay.
	Well, that's, that Tucker's the one that's promoting that the most, but let's go to Lee Smith.
	And Lee Smith.
	Who's Lee Smith?
	We had Lee Smith clips on before.
	Lee Smith's the guy who wrote the book, The Plot Against Trump.
	He's really good at his analysis and he comes up with something that isn't different.
	And then I have another one that's different than that.
	But let's start with Lee, and I unfortunately spelled it smoth.
	It happens to the best of us.
	Distracted by the scanner.
	And then every one of them is, of course, just a copy of the other ones.
	I found them.
	So let's go with Lee Smith on Biden Docs 1.
	Earlier today, I spoke with Lee Smith for his analysis.
	Smith wrote the book The Plot Against the President and is host of the show Over the Target on Epic TV.
	We start with recent allegations that these documents could have been planted as a way to undermine Biden.
	Lee Smith, welcome to our show.
	Thanks so much for joining us.
	Now, some say the revelation of classified documents in Biden's personal possession may be a way to thwart any chances of the president running again.
	How do you see it?
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	I don't think it's an internal Democratic National Committee coup.
	I think rather it's a cover up.
	I mean, first of all, the media aligned with the party.
	If you watch MSNBC, CNN, You see that everyone on there is very supportive of Biden.
	They're all comparing it to how bad Trump is.
	So there's no one who's coming out for, there's no one who's coming out against Biden.
	And this is not the way that Democrats would, it's not an issue that Democrats would use, right?
	Classified information doesn't matter to them.
	And that's why, you know, that's why there was no problem with Hillary Clinton's candidacy in 2016.
	They would use another instrument to bring down Joe Biden, if they were trying to bring down Joe Biden, and I don't believe they are.
	Okay.
	Is this NTD, by the way?
	I'm just curious.
	Yeah.
	Because someone- They only bring him onto NTD.
	I don't know why.
	No one else had ever talked to the guy.
	Because we have something good here.
	NTD.
	Mixing it up a bit for you.
	Let's go to clip two.
	The DOJ is investigating Trump for something that Biden may also have done.
	So what do you think of the way the department is handling Biden's case?
	Oh, the special counsel who was appointed, Robert Herr.
	I mean, this is an aspect of the cover-up.
	I mean, the man presumably identifies as a Republican, but he's an anti-Trump Republican, right?
	He was a protege of Rod Rosenstein.
	Rod Rosenstein Was the deputy attorney general who said he was willing to wear a wire to spy on Trump.
	That's what an internal coup looks like.
	When the deputy attorney general says, I'll wear a wire to spy on the president of the United States.
	What's happening with Biden does not look like an internal coup.
	When they appoint a guy who is against Trump and sides with the establishment, deep state, however we want to put it.
	That's moving toward a cover-up, and this is what my sources on Capitol Hill have been telling me.
	And I think they're 100% correct.
	A cover-up?
	Yeah, this is the problem I have with this, because he never... Now, another guy comes on in a different show, and I think the cover-up, when you hear the clip that's going to finalize these clips, you're going to think, well, maybe, because the possibility exists that this whole thing is... You used the term a few times on the show, but we've never really explained limited handling.
	Oh, goodness.
	I hate that term.
	Yeah.
	Because it's a made-up term.
	I don't like it either, but there was a guy that sent one of these guys out there talking about vaccines and he described limited hangout.
	Do you have a good definition for it that you can tell the people?
	From what I understand, it was during the Nixon era, and they were talking about letting some guy leak out a little bit of information in regard to Watergate.
	And Nixon apparently said, so it's like limited.
	He's hanging out in a limited way.
	And no one ever said in that conversation, as far as I've seen transcripts, oh, it's a limited hangout.
	But no one I've ever encountered in intelligence has ever used that.
	It's Whitney Webb.
	She's the one who keeps, you know, who keeps using that term.
	Well, you just said that no one in intelligence ever used it, and then you said Whitney Webb.
	What are you talking about?
	Oh, nice one.
	Good one.
	You're so slick.
	You're so slick.
	Love it.
	So a limited hangout is the idea that you can... I think it's just a version of false flag, but not a false flag in a public relations way.
	In other words, you put something out there and you make it look like, oh, this is what it's... And the limited hangout is being used in terms of the bivalent vaccine causing strokes.
	The idea is that it's going to be a limited, you're going to push this little narrative out there about the strokes and this, and they're going to say, Oh, okay, well, we're going to just take this bivalent off the market and you leave all the other vaccines out there and you don't look into anything else.
	I call that a strategy in crisis.
	I don't think it's a limited hangout.
	I would call it anything else, but I'm just saying it's going to, it's going to start showing up because I don't like it.
	I don't like it.
	I don't like it either.
	I didn't like it the first time I heard it, but I'm just saying it's possible that this is what this is going on here, which is a phony baloney deal.
	But let's go to clip three.
	The Justice Department found out about these documents about a week before the midterms, but we're only just learning about it now.
	Why do you think that is?
	I think it's not just about the elections.
	I think it's, I assume it's something much more serious because, you know, they've been Holding on to this, it's not like it just came out after the election, right?
	They said they found the documents November 2nd.
	And look, that story is in itself improbable, right?
	Because look at what you have to believe about the story.
	You have to believe about the story either every other time that Joe Biden's belongings moved, right?
	The lawyers missed it.
	Or do you have to believe that this time is the time that lawyers went through his belongings?
	And normally it was staffers who didn't know what classified, what classifications on documents looked like.
	So the story is highly improbable.
	And remember, these documents have been moved at least twice.
	Once out of the White House and to an interim space.
	And then a second time to the Penn-Biden Center.
	Because remember, Penn-Biden Center did not open up till 2018.
	So between January 2017 and 2018, These documents were somewhere else.
	We have no insight yet as to where they are.
	So, but they've been moved twice.
	And it appears this was in preparation to move them a third time.
	So, again, the idea that the lawyers, that Biden's lawyers somehow just noticed this doesn't make sense.
	Classified!
	Okay, so that was interesting.
	And so it really brings a lot of doubts forward.
	Let's go with the last of these clips.
	There's a CNN piece today talking about, again, it's more the press cover-up.
	The CNN piece is going on about, oh, it was very chaotic as Joe Biden was leaving the White House in January 2017.
	They never knew what was going into the boxes and the belongings.
	It was just chaotic.
	And so it's just meant to cover up for what's going on with Joe Biden.
	So you're telling me that the aides, The aides at that time packed it up, but now they've got the professionals in there.
	And since when do lawyers go through belongings?
	The story doesn't make sense, right?
	People are right.
	The people who are saying they wonder if it's a coup.
	They're not right that it's a coup, but they are right to say that the story does not make sense the way it's being told.
	And that's why I believe there is something, whatever is in these documents or whatever the backstory behind it is likely to be extremely damaging.
	And that's why it's a cover-up, not a coup.
	Cover-up?
	Okay.
	Cover-up for what?
	For Ukraine?
	It's the only thing that can come to mind.
	It has to be a cover-up for Ukraine.
	Yeah, well, there's a cover-up that comes, which is the way, it would be a good, because they keep, if you notice, they always use Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, even Tucker does that, as though this is some Ukraine thing, it's got something to do with the kid, who knows what.
	It could be a cover-up for something even more sinister.
	At least that's the theory by this guy.
	This guy is Philip Klein, who used to be the Kansas Attorney General, and he was on one of these shows.
	He was on Bongino's show.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I cut Bongino out of this.
	I just have Phil going on about this.
	Listen to this.
	And when you look at the special counsel as it relates to President Biden, they have a very narrow authority according to the appointment letter, only to look at the documents.
	Now let's take a look at it for a second, Dan, at what Attorney General Garland knew when he made this decision.
	He knew that the documents were found at the Penn-Biden Center.
	He knew that the Penn-Biden Center, when they located it at the University of Pennsylvania, that the University of Pennsylvania received 47 million dollars while that center was there.
	That the University of Pennsylvania pushed that money to Biden, and 10 of his cabinet members received salary, up to 10, at the Penn Biden Center, including Mr. Biden.
	Additionally, at the same time, Hunter's on the Burisma board, the documents pertain to Ukraine.
	And that would be of interest to those who are concerned about Hunter Biden and who he's dealing with, and those who are paying his salary.
	So you have some evidence of intent as to why the documents should be there, and that evidence of intent relates to the flow of money.
	There's something else that Attorney General Garland knew.
	He knew that he had received a letter from the University of Pennsylvania asking that he end the China initiative of the Department of Justice, which is looking at economic espionage by China.
	Now, you have to understand that 50% of the most wanted list on the FBI's fugitive list relate to espionage by China.
	He ended it at the request of the University of Pennsylvania.
	That is a conflict of interest.
	Yet, he only gave the special prosecutor a very narrow focus, while President Trump's special prosecutor can look at everything.
	I have some new thinking on this.
	I'm all ears.
	How about simpler?
	Simpler.
	Everything is about the power and politics.
	It's hard because I love the cover-up.
	I love the China.
	I love the UK.
	I want it to be that.
	When we see the documents.
	But what if the Democrat Party can't convince Michelle Obama to run?
	They know that they have Newsom on deck.
	They know it can't be Kamala Harris.
	They're very worried about DeSantis, who now has big money billionaires behind him.
	Wall Street basically positioning themselves behind DeSantis.
	They actually can't indict Trump because they need him to run.
	They need him to run.
	He can't be taken off the playing field because they feel that DeSantis will be stronger.
	And this will come down to a sputtering of, well, you know what?
	We have to keep justice equal on both sides.
	No one gets prosecuted.
	But let's not do that again.
	Let's not do what again?
	Let's be clear about classified documents.
	You can't take them home, etc.
	If we're not going to prosecute Biden, we can't prosecute Trump.
	And we don't want to prosecute Trump because he has to run.
	Well, I don't like it from the basis of the fact that you've always thought that Michelle Obama was in play.
	I've never believed that.
	I still think she's in play.
	I'm just giving you a scenario.
	I'm not saying that this is what's happening.
	I like the Chinese scenario the best because this is the best way to cover anything going on that's suspicious.
	I didn't know that Garland has pulled the plug on going after the Chinese espionage, which was a big deal when you had Pompeo and people like that floating around.
	I'm just very suspicious of this University of Penn Biden Center.
	Hey, it's Pennsylvania, hello?
	Guys in New Jersey know.
	We know.
	New Jersey people know.
	It's no good.
	But this brought me to a series of super cuts, which I think are worth playing, even though it's anti-climactic in some way.
	Bongino had a super cut of the, not a super cut, but I call it a mini cut, of when Trump was first discovered with the documents.
	And I just got a kick out of it.
	This is the short supercut over Trump classified documents clip.
	This classic picture of the walls closing in.
	Why in the world would he need to have these kinds of sensitive documents in Florida?
	Or really anywhere?
	You're not above the law.
	You're not an elite.
	You're not untouchable.
	And so it's nice to see that the rule of law has returned.
	My top level expert legal analysis of the affidavit is why ain't this dude in jail?
	In many ways it feels like the walls are closing in on Donald Trump.
	Alright, well that's the media for you.
	So that brought me to, I hate to go into classics, but I have two that I just have to play because there's something about this walls closing in.
	It began right after he got elected.
	In 2017, we collected this supercut.
	In 2017, mind you, of the walls closing in.
	I want to play this.
	The 2017 Bombshell Walls Medley.
	Today is a turning point.
	Today was historically bad for President Trump.
	Today was a turning point.
	We're at a turning point here.
	The beginning of the end for the Trump presidency.
	We have another bombshell.
	Mike Pence might have to assume the office of the presidency.
	Rumblings of the word impeachment.
	Breaking news!
	Another bombshell out of the White House.
	I believe this is the beginning of the end.
	I do too.
	It's really the beginning of the end.
	He may be feeling the walls closing in on him.
	All the walls closing in on him.
	The walls closing in on him.
	Breaking news, a new bombshell.
	One astrologer says this means the beginning of the end for President Donald Trump.
	Trump will resign.
	Trump is going to resign.
	Is this the tipping point?
	I know we've said it over and over.
	You think this is a tipping point?
	And over and over.
	This is a tipping point.
	And over and over.
	Breaking news, President Trump off the rails.
	This is the beginning of the end today.
	The beginning of the end.
	Breaking news tonight, new bombshell.
	This is the beginning, not the end.
	The beginning of the end.
	The walls are closing in.
	The wall's closing in.
	The wall's closing in.
	Breaking overnight bombshell.
	This is a very dramatic day and I think it might be near a tipping point.
	You think this is a tipping point?
	December 1st, 2017, you can mark it down.
	This is the day that everything changed.
	The beginning of the end?
	The beginning of the end.
	The beginning of the end.
	We begin tonight with a bombshell.
	Donald Trump is in a lot of trouble.
	Trump is in trouble.
	The president will resign.
	Another hour, another bombshell.
	This is a tipping point.
	Trump's going down.
	This president Could be impeached.
	Resignation.
	Resignation.
	I don't think this president is going to serve out his term.
	Mr. Trump will not serve out his term.
	He will not serve out his term.
	No way.
	No how.
	Breaking news.
	Absolute bombshell.
	Donald Trump is not.
	He's done.
	And it's over.
	It's over.
	The wall's closing in.
	The wall's closing in.
	This is going to be the Achilles' heel.
	Breaking news tonight, I expect Trump to depart.
	This week will be the watershed week.
	Trump is in big trouble.
	Trump's in a lot of trouble.
	It's the sight of a terrified old man who feels the wall's closing in.
	The wall's are increasingly closing in on him.
	Tonight, the wall's are closing in.
	Today changed everything.
	This is the beginning of the end.
	Today, the biggest tipping point for the Trump administration.
	What a historic day at the bombshells.
	He's underwater.
	He feels the walls closing in.
	Turning point.
	We may be at a tipping point.
	It's the beginning of the end.
	The beginning of the end.
	Another bombshell.
	Bombshell.
	Bombshell.
	This is a bombshell.
	Oh man, that gives me flashbacks.
	I was so annoying that period.
	And wait, go to... I got one more.
	You do?
	We go from 2017 to 2018, and here's another super clip.
	These are the same boneheads that they're feeding the public this crap.
	No wonder this guy... I mean, years and years of this, but this is just early in his... before 2020, it's 2018.
	Play these.
	Why do you think these attacks are becoming so much more frequent now?
	It's not surprising that Donald Trump is increasing his attacks.
	The walls are closing in on him.
	It feels like the walls are closing in on the White House.
	It feels as if the walls are closing in here.
	I think the walls of justice are closing in on President Trump.
	Increasingly desperate, feeling like the walls are closing in.
	The president clearly feels all the walls closing in on him in terms of the Russia investigation.
	The walls are closing in.
	I think at this point the walls are spinning.
	It does feel like the walls are closing in.
	I think that the administration at this point can start to see the walls closing in.
	He feels the walls closing in on him.
	Everybody he talks to says the walls are closing in.
	This is another potential wall closing in.
	This president is feeling the walls are closing in.
	The walls, meanwhile, are closing in on the president of the United States.
	I think he's feeling the Russian investigation.
	I think he's feeling the walls closing in on him.
	He knows that the walls are closing in.
	The walls may be closing in higher up at the White House.
	The president apparently believes that the walls are closing in on him.
	The walls are closing in on the president right now.
	Donald Trump feels the walls closing in.
	Feeling like the walls are closing in around him?
	Yes!
	Does it seem like the walls could be closing in on this president?
	Feels like we are finally at a tipping point.
	The walls are closing in on President Trump.
	Feels like the president is sitting in the White House.
	The walls are closing in around him.
	And that's why there's this sense of the walls closing in.
	As it appears the walls are closing in, in terms of the Mueller investigation, the walls are closing in.
	The walls are closing in.
	I do feel that he feels the walls closing in on him.
	Legal walls are closing in on Donald Trump tonight.
	From a Democratic perspective, this is the president who feels like the walls are closing in.
	As he feels the walls are closing in.
	Any indication that, legally speaking, the walls are closing in on the president.
	I feel some of the walls closing in on him.
	The walls are closing in on President Trump.
	The walls are closing in on the president.
	Okay, so what this really proves in this context is that the mainstream media had very clear talking points in these two years. - But they don't seem to have any real coherent talking points right now.
	Let me just play something.
	This is KCRW, leftist media up in your neck of the woods.
	There are differences between what we know about Donald Trump's mishandling of classified information and what we know about Joe Biden's mishandling of classified information.
	But there's also a whole lot we don't know about the Joe Biden side.
	So I want to come back to that.
	But first, legally speaking, Donald Trump is in jeopardy under two issues, the mishandling part and the obstruction part.
	We don't have any evidence right now of sort of that obstruction side for Joe Biden.
	So in that sense, that's one difference.
	But on the mishandling of classified information, actually, the two are looking more and more similar, frankly.
	And I have to say, you know, I don't think the White House has handled this well.
	I don't think they've been forthcoming.
	The fact that they Found these documents or rather turn them over to the National Archives at least six days before the midterm elections when they were hammering Donald Trump over the mishandling of documents and didn't want to mention that to the American people, I think politically, not legally, is Telling, um, and the fact that then two months later, they're finding more documents in the garage of his house.
	Not great, Bob.
	Um, and I just, they've lost a lot of credibility here, but I'll tell you who had the best week in Washington.
	Merrick Garland.
	Congratulations, Mr. Attorney General.
	You had a really hard decision on your plate and it just got a lot easier because I don't see a world in which these distinctions will have a big enough legal difference.
	Kind of, kind of sets up the theory I spoke about.
	point move forward with one versus the other.
	And frankly, he's not going to move forward with either.
	That kind of kind of sets up the theory I spoke about.
	I know you don't like it.
	That could be a talking point.
	It sounds like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Jean-Pierre Van Damme.
	Here's a mini-cut.
	He said he takes classified documents and information seriously.
	He takes classified documents very seriously.
	He takes classified information and materials seriously.
	He takes classified documents and information very seriously.
	He takes this very seriously.
	He takes this very seriously.
	The president takes this very seriously.
	The president takes this very seriously.
	The president takes very seriously.
	Very seriously.
	Very seriously.
	Very, very seriously.
	So, I think they're trying to say that's the difference?
	You know, Trump's a baboon.
	Doesn't take it seriously.
	And this president takes it seriously.
	Yeah.
	Well, they're definitely saying he takes it seriously.
	I thought it was fun to hear the... That is a good supercut, by the way.
	That's a mini-cut.
	This is Hakeem Jeffries, who at one point was almost neck-and-neck with Kevin McCarthy to be the Speaker of the House, so he's the minority leader for the Democrats in the House of Representatives.
	This guy may be dumb, I'm not sure.
	You know, it's funny you mention it because he's not Nancy Pelosi in terms of his conniving, and I think he might be dumb.
	On the classified documents, we've learned the president was informed of the initial classified documents on the same day they were found more than two months ago.
	Are you concerned the White House didn't disclose this sooner?
	I have full faith and credit in President Biden.
	I believe that he's doing everything to take the appropriate steps.
	Don't you have full faith and credit like a bank or something?
	The full faith and credit, which I'm sure we'll be talking about today, is typically regarding that we pay our bills and that the dollar is solid and stable.
	Yeah, what's it got to do with a person?
	Hey man, the guy's dumb.
	President Biden believed that he's doing everything to take the appropriate steps to determine what happened and how to move forward in a responsible fashion.
	And I'm confident that he will continue to do so.
	What does it say to you that documents have been found at another location?
	Again, I haven't been briefed on the full set of facts in this regard, but I have full faith in President Joe Biden.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Full faith.
	It's kind of the full faith.
	Full faith and credit.
	I mean, what is going on with this guy?
	He's not read in.
	Whatever's going on, he doesn't know.
	Oh, that's a good point.
	Yeah, it's obvious he's not read in.
	There's somebody, they don't trust him.
	I have a CBS report about the special counsel.
	Let's see if it's any good.
	Today, Attorney General Merrick Garland tapped Robert Herr, a veteran prosecutor who served under former President Trump, to investigate the possible unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents.
	So you say he's an anti-Trumper?
	I never said it was an anti-Trumper.
	It was said by both the Lee Smith and the AG from Kansas.
	They both say he's anti-Trumper.
	The stunning announcement came just hours after the White House admitted that a small number of classified documents had been found in the garage of President Biden's Wilmington residence and in a room next door.
	Mind you, this is CBS, and these are the ones that discovered all of these troves.
	Specified material next to your Corvette.
	President Biden was asked about it this morning.
	I love that.
	So the material was in a locked garage.
	Yes, as well as my Corvette.
	I'm gonna go back to elder abuse now, because they're letting this poor guy hang out in the wind so much now.
	It's pathetic.
	What?
	You can go to any crisis management firm.
	The last thing they will say is, hey, it was safe, man, because it was next to my Corvette.
	By the way, a gasoline-burning, earth-shattering Corvette.
	Yeah, that thing probably, that he has probably gets about 14 miles to the gallon at the best.
	Yes, as well as my Corvette.
	But as I said earlier this week, people know I take classified documents and classified materials seriously.
	The latest revelation follows Monday's admission by the White House after questioning by CBS News that Mr. Biden's lawyers had found 10 classified documents in this building, roughly a mile from the White House, where Biden once had an office.
	That office was not authorized for storage of classified documents.
	Less than two weeks later, on November 14th, the Justice Department started its preliminary review.
	On December 20th, President Biden's lawyers found the additional classified materials at his Wilmington home.
	His lawyers also searched his Delaware vacation house.
	They said no classified records were found there.
	I find it odd that the lawyers are searching his house.
	I've had lawyers.
	No lawyer's going to come in my house and just search around for anything.
	That's odd.
	Former national security official Javed Ali says the matter brings up serious questions about how Mr. Biden and his team handled classified material.
	As a former intelligence professional, we are all indoctrinated to never leave our offices with any classified material whatsoever.
	That's the whole point of the work.
	Garland has now appointed two special counsels in two months to investigate the handling of sensitive materials by the sitting president and former President Trump, who had over 300 classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate.
	Today, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy questioned Biden's transparency.
	They knew this has happened to President Biden before the election, but they kept it a secret from the American public.
	Now we find another location that it's at.
	Yeah, that obviously is kind of lame that they knew about this just before the midterm election and they clearly covered that up.
	Here's a question that Tina asked me this and I didn't have an answer.
	She said, where are classified documents stored?
	Are they not stored digitally?
	Are these just things that are done on a typewriter with carbon paper?
	Where are these things stored?
	Well, they're supposed to be stored in a skiff.
	No, that's where you can view them.
	You can view them in the skiff.
	What server are they on?
	Who's in charge of that?
	Are they encrypted?
	Do you need two keys in order to open up the classified documents?
	This whole thing could be one big joke.
	Classified documents?
	They're stored somewhere.
	They're printed out.
	He prints him out, takes him home.
	Can anyone print him out?
	Can you only print him out in the skiff?
	So then he would have done that in the skiff.
	I mean, these are all questions that will never be answered.
	No, because nobody's going to look into that.
	There's something else going on.
	Yeah.
	That's why I'm kind of in with Lee Smith.
	There's something wrong with the entire narrative, and there's something that we're not finding out, and no one seems to be interested in finding it out.
	They'll just say whatever Jean-Pierre Claudin tells them to say.
	He takes it seriously, man.
	I mean, really, all everyone is doing is just the outrage.
	No one's actually doing any investigative reporting.
	You know, these guys had an opinion.
	I like that.
	Had a different opinion.
	The guys you played.
	But no one seems to be taking it seriously at all.
	I'm as baffled as you are.
	I see you have a clip and it's an Ask Adam.
	I'd like to handle this right now because it's relevant to the full faith and credit of the United States of America.
	And this is the debt limit which Janet Yellen came out and said, oh boy!
	Oh, we got to raise the debt limit because we're going to reach it by Thursday.
	And if we don't raise the debt limit by Thursday, then we're going to have to start cutting things left and right so the full faith and credit of the United States will still be good so we can pay our debts.
	And it never ceases to amaze me how clueless people are in the United States about this.
	They say, it's un-American not to raise the debt limit.
	I mean, it's what we do, and now stands at, I think, $31.6 trillion.
	Which is ridiculous.
	And they would have to raise, and let me see if I'm explaining this correctly.
	So the shortfall that we have from our tax revenue.
	Which I think the tax revenue that comes in is probably just paying off the interest at this point.
	So we have to create more money.
	And the way we do that is the Federal Reserve gets to go ahead, hey, we want to borrow some more money.
	And then they create it.
	And we have to pay that back.
	So it gets added to the debt limit.
	And of course, with the higher interest rates, it's all going to, it could potentially spiral out of control.
	Maybe it's already spiraling out of control.
	So you haven't asked Adam about this.
	Yeah, I was going to ask you, what do you think the current debt limit, what they want to set the new debt limit at?
	Well, I'm going to play the jingle.
	Sorry.
	You've confused.
	I don't even know where my ask Adam is anymore.
	All right.
	I do not know the answer to this, but the last time they raised it, I think $2 or $3 trillion.
	I'm just going to guess, seeing as inflation is probably really a 10% average, that they would have to raise it by $3 trillion.
	I don't know why I'm coming up with that number, it just feels right.
	Well, here's the answer.
	Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen warned Congress that the federal government will hit its debt limit next Thursday.
	After that date, Yellen said the Treasury will take what she called extraordinary measures to shift funds around and prevent a national default.
	In turn, the White House urged Congress to quickly raise the limit, now set at $31.4 trillion.
	So what are they raising it to?
	They never said.
	This is a bogus ass item.
	I'm glad I didn't find the jingle.
	Okay, I'm going to give you the answer.
	How we solve this, this is the same every single, since we've been doing the show, how many times have we heard, time to raise the debt limit?
	How many times?
	I think more than once a year.
	No, no, no.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	How many times have we heard there was a crisis, a political crisis, and one party said, no, we don't want to raise it?
	More than once a year.
	This is not a one-time deal.
	This happens.
	The political crisis, when it really comes down, it's always when Republicans are running the show.
	That's when the media goes and makes a big deal about it.
	We only handle it when it's in the media.
	That's a good point.
	When the Democrats are running things, yeah.
	But they're making a point now, right, because the Republicans just took over.
	We didn't hear this last year.
	No.
	And the answer is always the same.
	And I have it here.
	In this case, it's from...
	Let me see.
	It's from Forbes.
	And I'm not going to tell you what Forbes said, but they gave the same solution they give every single time the Republicans are at bat and can stop the raising of the debt limit, and we play the same clip every single time it happens from The Simpsons.
	In 1945, the people of Europe struggled to rebuild following the war.
	Shut up, Simpson.
	To ease this crisis, President Truman promised relief.
	American tax dollars will help our allies who fought so poorly and surrendered so readily.
	To make good on this drunken boast, Truman authorized the one-time printing of the largest denomination currency ever, a trillion dollar bill.
	A trillion dollar bill?
	That's a spicy meatball.
	And here it is, Forbes, the trillion-dollar coin and other long-shot death crisis solutions.
	Richard McGehee, who wrote this, shame on you, douchebag.
	I can't believe they do this every single time.
	The president could fix it by minting a trillion-dollar platinum coin and deposit that with the Federal Reserve.
	You're right.
	We have, this has cropped up at least five times in 15 years.
	We even named a show the Trillion Dollar Bill Show or Coin.
	I think it was Coin.
	We've done this.
	Here, 2013.
	2013.
	No, that was the, let me see if we have Trillion, here, ABC.
	What year is this from?
	This is... Have you heard of the ABC Act?
	No.
	This is a proposal.
	ABC stands for Automatic Boost to Communities.
	It would provide a boost debit card.
	We would all get this.
	By the way, all of us.
	Taxpayers, dependents, non-citizens.
	Even if you don't have a bank account or a social security number.
	Even if you don't have an address.
	Everybody gets it.
	$2,000.
	And then your card would be reloaded with $1,000 every month until one year after the end of the virus crisis.
	This is stupid.
	This is from 2020.
	So you're not wrong that it was pretty frequent.
	This is Pelosi on Tapper.
	And the fact is that in all four of the bills that have passed before, they've all been bipartisan.
	And we've all, in our caucus, have agreed that everything is coronavirus-centric and also in a timely way that relates to the virus.
	It's too deadly to our lives, to our livelihood, to our democracy for us to use it for any other purpose.
	So when the money for state and local is to defray the cost of the outlays they've made for coronavirus, and the revenue lost because of the coronavirus.
	Testing, testing, the three pillars: honor our heroes by supporting our state and local entities so that they don't lose their jobs.
	These heroes don't lose their jobs.
	Open up government by testing, tracing, treatment, etc.
	And the third is putting money in the pockets of the American people.
	All of it timed and centric to the coronavirus.
	It would be an endless amount of money if we put our wish list for the future in there, but that is not what the case is.
	And sometimes I get a little heat from my own folks who say, why can't we do this in this bill and that in the bill?
	Because that's not what the bill's about.
	This bill is for this purpose.
	And it's a big price, but it's a big problem.
	And the chairman of the Fed said, think big because the interest rates will never be lower.
	And so they've used the interest rates to give confidence that credit will be available because the interest rates are low.
	We want those same interest rates.
	And they use it to bolster the stock market.
	We want to use it to bolster the American people.
	What the heck?
	I'm sorry.
	I'll cut that out of the show.
	It said trillion dollar coin right there on the title.
	Wow, you were duped.
	Biggest dud ever.
	I really apologize.
	Must have been some series that we were doing.
	I definitely recall at least twice before, like in 20... I don't know.
	2013 at least, there was a trillion dollar coin segment on our show.
	At least twice.
	Yeah, 2013 is when I had the, that's where I had the original Simpsons clip from.
	Hmm.
	I guess it did come back 2020-21.
	I'm just looking at some searches.
	Anyway, it's dumb.
	It never happens.
	Shame on you, Forbes.
	What are you thinking?
	You're stupid.
	It's always stupid.
	All right, let's go to the other big story, which is going to be a very interesting media war.
	This is the report that came out, I think it came out during our show even, Thursday, that there's something up, something up with the bivalent shot.
	It could be giving people strokes.
	And right away, man, on Friday, right away, I have all these great, great little articles, New York Times, the CDC.
	But before we do that, let's listen to Good Morning America.
	The FDA and CDC are standing by the safety of Pfizer's updated booster after concerns about a possible safety risk.
	The agency launching an investigation after data from a vaccine monitoring system suggested a link between the booster and an increased risk of stroke in people over 65.
	The CDC says they acted quickly in assessing the concern, which was detected in late November.
	And after a review of safety databases, the CDC found no other safety system have shown a similar signal.
	They also say multiple subsequent analysis have not validated this sign, concluding that it is very unlikely that the vaccine poses a true risk.
	The FDA and CDC will continue to analyze data Well, don't do ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.
	This is important.
	You know, this reminds me of the meme that I put in the newsletter, where they're sitting there, you know, the panel on CNN, and one of them's listening, Dana Bash is listening, and from our sources at Pfizer, they say it's not the vaccine.
	What she said, though, was exactly the answer that CDC has given.
	So, the New York Times is where I first started this trail.
	I'm just going to read you little pieces from this article.
	No increased stroke risk linked to Pfizer's COVID boosters, federal officials say.
	And here's, in this article, among about 550,000 people aged 65 and older, so we're only talking about 65 and older, who had received the Pfizer BioNTech bivalent booster, 130 had ischemic strokes, and they use that term specifically, so I'm sure that's a very specific type of stroke, which I think is blood clot related, in the 21st days after receiving the shot.
	So they've already narrowed it down to 21 days after receiving the shot, raising fears that the two events were related.
	But analysis of the data using a different method did not reveal an increased risk of ischemic stroke.
	Are you kidding me?
	They didn't explain what the analysis using a different method.
	Would you count with Common Core or something?
	I mean, so I go to look at the CDC.
	CDC and FDA identified preliminary COVID-19 vaccine safety signal for persons aged 65 years and older.
	This is CDC themselves.
	This preliminary signal has not been identified with the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, bivalent.
	There also may be other confounding factors contributing to the signal identified in the VSD that merit further investigation.
	Furthermore, it is important to note that to date, no other safety systems have shown a similar signal and multiple subsequent analyses have not validated this signal.
	Gobbledygook!
	What are their signals?
	They say very clearly, the VAERS database, all of a sudden they're using the VAERS database, and the V-safe, V-safe is the app you can download after you've received your vaccination and then you can report if you're dead.
	So the V-safe did not, you know, if you get a stroke then you're not going to report it to V-safe.
	And the Vaccine Safety Data Link, VSD, which I had not heard of before.
	These are 13 sites that provide clinical, methodological, and data expertise.
	Only 11 of them provide data, and all of them are Kaiser Permanente outfits.
	So they get data from Kaiser Permanente in California, New York, New Hampshire, nothing in the middle, except I think maybe Montana, and they may not even be reporting.
	And that is where they get signals from.
	So if they see someone, oh yeah, you know, we heard someone, someone keeled over, stroke, and we're reporting it.
	This is, they did no test.
	They did no actual clinical test.
	They just said, got any signals?
	Got no signal.
	You got a signal?
	Got no signal.
	And that all of a sudden is how they're refuting this.
	This is, adverse events reported after a bivalent booster dose appear, appear, you love these words John, consistent with those reported after a monovalent booster and are less common and less serious than health impacts associated with COVID-19 illness.
	So there was something going on.
	But COVID is worse.
	Again, they're just giving you lip service.
	Let's go back to ABC.
	For more on this, let's bring in ABC's medical contributor, Dr. Alok Patel, joining us from San Francisco this morning.
	We just heard Mona say the CDC is not changing any recommendations, saying it's very unlikely that the vaccine poses a true risk.
	How have they come to that conclusion, and what does this mean going forward?
	Well, Eva, simply put, the CDC did see this early signal from something called the Vaccine Safety Data Link, which is designed to try to detect these early signals, which could be rare side effects.
	It's not designed!
	They make it sound like we have everybody wired up, we'll know immediately when something happens, side effects happen, we're on the case.
	No, you don't!
	You're just sitting there waiting for some hospital to tell you that something's wrong.
	Well, that's not going to happen.
	But as we just heard, that was one signal from Vaccine Safety Data Link, which has been around for over 30 years.
	But from other studies, including data from other countries, there was no link found.
	Other countries!
	This is your circular reporting.
	According to the Uganda Times, we can report here in the New York Times that everything is OK.
	So we got data from other countries and they said, fine.
	30 years, but from other studies, including data from other countries, there was no link found.
	So this is reassuring and should actually give the public trust.
	Oh yeah!
	And more faith in the FDA and the CDC to look for any potential side effects, not only now, but moving forward.
	Now, of course, the big problem is we have all of these skeptics out there.
	People who, you know, are clearly queuing on.
	A lot of vaccine skepticism out there, so I have to ask you the question, should people still get a booster right now?
	People should, especially people who are high risk, such as the elderly or anyone who's immunocompromised.
	And Eva, we need to be honest here and say that the power of vaccines and boosters is to prevent severe illness and hospitalizations.
	Unprovable!
	That's the power!
	That's the power of it, baby!
	And not just out there to prevent every single positive test or mild infection, it's also important to remind people that these bivalent vaccines are still protective against XBB1.5, which comes from the Omicron family, and people have any questions, to chat with their doctors and make sure they're getting good, trusted information.
	What happened to talk to your medical professional?
	Chat with your doctor.
	Have a chat.
	Hey doc, I want to have a chat.
	Who is this guy?
	He's really a stooge.
	That's, um, Dr. Alok Patel.
	We've excoriated him before, but our favorite is Dr. Jen Ashton from ABC.
	ABC must be making bank off of Pfizer in this case.
	Now with Dr. Cannon, we're talking about long COVID and the long-term effects.
	So we've heard many, many times since the beginning of this pandemic how many people confirmed in this country have had COVID-19 infection.
	Again, estimates are that it could be 10 times that high.
	Who had it never was tested, never was confirmed.
	Long COVID, as much of an issue as those acute infections.
	And now a recent study published in the British Medical Journal looked at about 300,000 people in Israel vaccinated versus unvaccinated.
	COVID There's no unvaccinated people in Israel.
	This, on its face, is ridiculous.
	You could not breathe in Israel without having a vaccination.
	This is total, total crap.
	But you see what's happening.
	The reason you're dying and getting strokes is long COVID.
	People who didn't have COVID and found the incidence of long COVID much higher than we thought.
	And this is, by definition, symptoms that can persist four weeks or more after the initial infection, regardless of how severe that infection is.
	Very, very high respiratory problems, brain fog, mood disorders, musculoskeletal pain, fatigue.
	It runs the gamut.
	And so I think this bears repeating.
	There is some evidence that suggests that people who have been vaccinated are at lower risk of developing long COVID, which of course is just one more reason to get vaccinated.
	Of course!
	But it's not just about that acute infection.
	Now listen to her own personal story.
	Guys, it's something that tens of millions of people may be dealing with for months or even a year or more afterwards.
	And I saw the average age of this study was 25 years old.
	Were kids included in this?
	Is it also the case with that?
	Not as much.
	We don't know in the pediatric population as well.
	We don't have that same kind of data.
	But you guys, I was asking you in the break if you've had COVID.
	I've had COVID twice.
	The first time I actually did have some benign arrhythmia that lasted for a couple of months, a regular heartbeat after my infection.
	So this is something we all need to be on the lookout for.
	Long COVID gives you arrhythmia.
	Okay.
	All right, Dr. Jim.
	Wait, she had COVID twice?
	Twice, yeah.
	Did she ever get... She should have gotten vaccinated.
	She did.
	She did.
	What?
	Yes, this is what happens.
	It's long COVID.
	You can't fight... Look, she's not dead.
	She's not... You know what the next stage is?
	That, okay, well, it doesn't actually prevent you from getting sick and dying, but you'll go to heaven.
	That would be the obvious next benefit of getting your booster.
	Back to ABC again.
	To COVID tonight and after a lengthy investigation, some reassuring news to share with you.
	The FDA and CDC tonight are now revealing the results of an investigation into the safety of the Pfizer booster shot and any potential stroke risk.
	Health officials finding that the updated booster does not increase the risk of stroke in people 65 and older.
	The investigation began after data raised concerns about a possible risk.
	They remain convinced the Pfizer booster is safe and effective.
	They say no change to current recommendations.
	Now, I am willing to accept that the bivalent booster does not kill people or give them strokes over 65.
	The people we're seeing are under 30.
	This is not discussed anywhere.
	Oh, 65, nothing wrong here.
	No signals.
	We're seeing young people.
	We're seeing young people falling down.
	Yeah, that was the reason for the concern.
	Men, men, men.
	Let's go to some breaking news.
	A Fox News alert.
	As the CDC investigates a possible link between Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine and an increased risk of strokes, the agency says the safety concern is limited to people 65 and older.
	Here to explain, Fox News medical contributor, Dr. Jeanette Nashua.
	They actually positioned it that way.
	Strokes?
	People stroking up?
	65, not a problem.
	Doc, you know, this kind of scares me.
	Can you put it into detail?
	You know, I know they say there's only 65 and above, but all of us that took the vaccine, that were supportive of the vaccine, should we be concerned?
	No, I don't think you should be concerned.
	I think we should all just... Mrs. Fox, I love it!
	Be aware.
	Know your risk.
	This is just a safety signal.
	What does that mean?
	The CDC has programs in place to track and to figure out, okay, how many people are suffering from a certain condition after they receive the vaccine.
	The certain condition is a stroke.
	They're not reporting that.
	And what they found here was, out of 550,000 seniors, those 65 and older, within 21 days of receiving a booster Pfizer vaccine, not Moderna, but the Pfizer booster, the new one.
	Now this is what's interesting.
	They're really starting to hammer that this is Pfizer, not Moderna.
	Yeah, which makes it sound like a promotion.
	Well, interesting you say that.
	Because something very interesting is happening at this very moment, we go to PBS.
	Cancer deaths in the United States have dropped... I'm sorry, this is the wrong one.
	This is the one I meant.
	Here we go.
	It's PBS.
	Ever since COVID vaccines first became available in the United States, the federal government has been buying them from manufacturers and distributing them for free.
	But that was never intended to be permanent, and soon they'll be distributed by the manufacturers at prices they set.
	The government was paying $26 a dose for Moderna's updated boosters, but Moderna and Pfizer have both said they're considering a range of $110 to $130 a dose on the open market.
	Why the jump, and what does this mean for the future of vaccine costs as new variants emerge, especially for those without insurance?
	Jennifer Cates is Senior Vice President and Director of Global Health at KFF, the Kaiser Family Foundation.
	Jennifer, first, let's be clear.
	The Kaiser Family Foundation, the very people who said, don't worry about it, VSD, the thing we maintain, it's all safe.
	Family Foundation.
	No signal.
	Jennifer, first, let's be clear.
	That $110 to $130 range, what do those numbers represent?
	A rip-off?
	So, what we think they represent is what the manufacturers have said they might charge when the vaccines are in the commercial market.
	They could end up charging more, but this is what they're projecting.
	And essentially that would be the price per dose about four or close to five times what the federal government paid even at the high end.
	But who would they be charging that to?
	Right, so there's good news and bad news here.
	The good news is that for most people with public or private insurance we will not be paying for those vaccines.
	We are protected against costs.
	It's the buyers, the insurers, and the purchasers who are going to be paying that.
	And it is possible that will have a trickle-down effect on premiums and certainly will increase costs for the health care system.
	Did she say health scare system?
	Let me listen again.
	That will have a trickle-down effect on premiums and certainly will increase costs for the health care system.
	For individuals, most individuals with insurance will be okay.
	No, you're not going to be okay.
	It's going to raise everybody's rates.
	This might be related.
	There's a little more backstory to it.
	So why this increase?
	Why go from charging the government $26 to this big increase?
	If we think back to 2020, when COVID first was emerging and becoming a huge emergency, there were no vaccines, and the government made a bet that if it purchased vaccines in advance, candidates that weren't even authorized yet, and helped fund the research, that one of those candidates would be good enough.
	And in fact, we had more than one, and the government continued to buy in bulk.
	And by doing so, the federal government basically was saying to the manufacturers, we're taking care of your risk here.
	We're buying these from you to distribute so you don't have that risk of losing money in the marketplace.
	Now that we're going into a commercialized environment, it's the market.
	And these manufacturers are trying to assess, who's going to want my vaccine?
	What's it going to be worth to them?
	Is there going to be demand?
	And they're going to try to make some profit.
	That's not how it worked before.
	So could it be possible that we have two warring factions, Pfizer versus Moderna, and Moderna saying, hey man, their stuff sucks, man.
	It's going to kill you, bro.
	And this is coming right around the time when advertising will be cranked up massively.
	Reminding me of the Boeing Airbus wars from some years back in the early part of the show.
	There's a couple of things at play here, it looks like.
	I have two more clips after you say whatever you got.
	Well, I think there's an element there, but there's also kind of a subtext messaging going on about the value of an NHS or the French healthcare system, something that's The government gets a better deal, you know, because they put us off.
	If we had true healthcare, government-sponsored, single-payer healthcare, we wouldn't have these profiteers because everybody in the back of their minds knows that both Pfizer and Moderna had huge profits from the $10 and $20 shots that they were selling to the government.
	Huge.
	I think one of them made 18 billion, another one just in 30 or something like that.
	Huge profits.
	So the idea that they need to do this to make a profit is bullcrap.
	Let's continue.
	Is there any way the government can create a safety net here?
	So, it's interesting.
	The Biden administration did come out with a proposal to do that in their budget request.
	They basically said, look, there's a problem.
	The uninsured in the United States, adults, don't get guaranteed access to any vaccine that's recommended, whether it's flu or COVID.
	And we want to change that.
	Let's create a program called a Vaccines for Adults program, modeled after a really successful one that's for kids.
	Well, Congress didn't bite on that, and so there is no program.
	I think the question is, will Congress at some point appropriate additional funds so that that could happen?
	At least for COVID, that hasn't happened yet.
	Hey, just hearkening back to the raising of the debt limit.
	If you raise the debt limit by $3 trillion, isn't that, by definition, once again inflationary?
	Or only when we use it?
	I don't know.
	OK.
	Final one from this PBS weekend report.
	Are there potential public health implications from this?
	There certainly are.
	I mean, for all of the noise around the vaccines, what we know about these vaccines is noise, noise, noise, concern.
	No, noise.
	It's noise, people.
	Just noise.
	They work really well to prevent people from getting sick in hospital.
	How well?
	Really well.
	Really well.
	What you know about these vaccines is A, they work really well to prevent people from getting sick and hospitalized and even dying if they get COVID.
	You certainly don't want people who are uninsured to- And even dying if they get COVID.
	Wait a minute.
	To get sicker just because they can't afford this.
	B, even though the vaccines do not 100% prevent transmission, they- Like 0%.
	Do reduce it.
	Don't worry.
	No, they reduce it!
	I'm sorry, they do reduce it!
	100% prevent transmission, they do reduce it.
	Can't prove it.
	And we know that if you give people vaccine, they're going to be less likely to be infectious.
	They're going to be less likely to transmit.
	Of course you know.
	It's everyone's interest to do this.
	That's why.
	Jennifer Cates of KFF, the Kaiser Family Foundation.
	Thank you very much.
	Hello, Kaiser Family!
	Kaiser Family right there to give you the signal or no signal.
	Now we have to wrap this up with, uh, with our boy.
	I'd also like to ask you about the conspiracy theory that has been floating around on social media following the incident involving Damar Hamlin, the Buffalo Bills football player who went into cardiac arrest during a game against the Cincinnati Bengals.
	This theory suggests that the COVID-19 vaccines played a role.
	There's been similar speculation about the death of soccer journalist Grant Wall.
	Now, we don't want to give this theory more oxygen than we need to, but the reality is it's out there and it's part of a familiar pattern we've been seeing since vaccines became available.
	What's your response?
	What say you?
	Let me be really clear.
	There are a number of people who have alleged that Grant actually died from COVID or something to do with COVID vaccination and that in a sense implying that Celine must have something to do with this all because she's such a pro COVID vaccine scientist.
	It's absolutely not true.
	The rumors, disinformation, and almost terroristic comments have no validity whatsoever in this tragedy.
	Grant died from a heartache aneurysm confirmed by autopsy here in the United States in an unembalmed body, meaning that they made every effort to get every piece of information they could.
	So this one, put to rest, has nothing to do with COVID.
	Is this published?
	Did this family put out the autopsy report?
	I have no idea.
	Let's talk about Hamlin.
	Let's assume they did.
	I'm sorry?
	We didn't assume they did.
	So let me move now to Mr. Hamlin.
	Now, he suffered a blow to his chest, which has been known in other activities to actually cause the kind of cardiac arrest that he experienced.
	Right away, there was those disinformation, almost evil people out there.
	That would be us, John.
	Disinformation, almost.
	All we do is just play these clips.
	How are we evil?
	Because we're disinformationists!
	We're playing the clip!
	...almost evil people out there that, aha, this had to be COVID related.
	Myocarditis associated with the vaccine.
	Myocarditis being an inflammation of the heart muscle.
	All I can tell you at this point, there are no data, none, nothing, that would support that COVID vaccination or COVID infection even had anything to do with this particular event.
	Even COVID infection could have nothing to do with this event.
	This is great.
	I found that to be a botch.
	I think it's a botch too.
	Even though no disinformationist or almost evil people said, hey man, maybe it's because of COVID.
	He's just throwing that out and that's a mistake because he has to make sure that long COVID, long COVID is on deck for the blame.
	And long COVID is probably because you waited too long to get your booster.
	COVID vaccination or COVID infection even had anything to do with this particular event.
	And it does nothing to promote anything about the truth, just to continue to say that and to cause this kind of fear and panic about the vaccine.
	So I hope no one, no one, We'll avert getting the vaccine who should, as we've talked so many times before about who those people are based on this case alone.
	And while I don't believe whether it be Grant's case or whether it be Mr. Hamlin's case, we're going to see those people change what their messaging is.
	But we in the public should not stand for that.
	We can't stand for that.
	Put it down every time you see it.
	Don't be afraid to put it down.
	It's what we should do.
	And as part of this podcast family, this is how we take care of each other.
	Put that information down.
	I don't know, but I want to be a podcast family too.
	What's the podcast family he's talking about?
	I don't know.
	Well, if he's going to be bitching and moaning like that, I want to play that clip that came out that everyone sent copies around.
	of the BBC cardiologist that was allowed on BBC.
	I have it.
	I don't know how old this clip is, but it's not very old.
	Yeah, I have it.
	I have it right here.
	Yeah, I have it too.
	Oh, that's why I have it.
	This guy comes on the BBC and they let him go.
	This was shocking to everybody.
	Like, why didn't they cut this guy off or give him the... or, I can't hear you anymore!
	Which is our all-time favourite.
	On top of that, one of the reasons I think this has come into the news just now is obviously there's been a big concern recently around excess deaths.
	Now the British Heart Foundation have said certainly during the pandemic or since the pandemic there's been 30,000 Excess deaths specifically due to coronary artery disease.
	That's my area of expertise.
	And they're trying to figure out what's causing it.
	Analysis I've done, even Carl Hennigan, the director of Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, Oxford, suggests that satin pills prescription hasn't reduced since the pandemic.
	So it's unlikely to be a cause.
	But what is almost certainly, if you allow me to say this, what my own research has found, is that the COVID mRNA vaccines do carry a cardiovascular risk and I've actually called for the suspension of this pending an inquiry because there's a lot of uncertainty at the moment about what's causing the excess deaths.
	Some of it will be ambulance delays.
	My own father, it was reported on BBC News in late 2021, I was the first to actually highlight the ambulance delays because my own father suffered a cardiac arrest at home and the ambulance took 30 minutes.
	And when his post-mortem came out, he had very severe coronary artery disease, which is unexplainable.
	I then published in a peer-reviewed journal, they accepted my findings that the likely cause of his death was two doses of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine he had six months earlier.
	So what you're saying in terms of the mRNA link to cardiovascular risk, is that that is a proven, it's been proven medically, has it?
	Scientifically?
	Yes, so in medicine, you know, in any research that we do, it's very difficult to always be absolutely conclusive.
	So we go on like this, and there are lots of data now.
	The original trials of Pfizer and Moderna with mRNA vaccines showed, and I just want to put this in absolute terms, we don't want to scare people unnecessarily, But the absolute risk of serious adverse events was at least 1 in 800.
	OK.
	And a lot of those are cardiovascular.
	And then you were more likely in those trials to suffer a serious adverse event than to be hospitalized with COVID early on.
	We should be reassured that Omicron and what's circulating is really no worse than the flu.
	And this is really time to pause the vaccine rollout and to really investigate this properly.
	Yeah, OK.
	We have to get you off.
	There's no good.
	One of the most... So my point is, why is Ulster Home bitching about us?
	A question.
	Why do you keep rattling your mic when you start talking?
	I haven't heard that before.
	You keep doing this every single time.
	Something's loose.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, you can tighten it.
	Tighten it up, man.
	You need to be tight.
	Yeah, it's very rattly.
	Very rattly.
	So, one of the most emailed clips over the past week has been this spoof called The Institute of Coincidences.
	And people will email that to me without the title, like, you'll love this!
	And I wanted to say, I don't love it.
	And I want to remind everybody that more and more people are realizing that, ooh, maybe this is not such a good idea.
	I think people, there's, I'm sure there's people listening to this show who are like, oh man, what's going to happen to me?
	Please, when some, do not do this.
	Accept, don't go, yeah, I'm unleaded!
	I'm pure blood!
	No, be nice to people.
	Approach them with compassion and love and understanding and empathy.
	Don't do that.
	That, because everyone has, they're trying to murder all of us.
	And I mean that sincerely.
	So, think about that.
	Just be, be a little compassionate.
	Now, when it comes to Australia, I have no compassion.
	They're crazy.
	Australia is putting a world-first vaccine to the test.
	Human trials getting underway for a three-in-one jab to protect against common and deadly respiratory illnesses.
	The super shot could save time and money as well as pressure on our health system.
	Combating a triple threat with one single jab.
	If you could go to the doctor and get one vaccine that essentially covers you for influenza, COVID and RSV, as opposed to going back several times in that same year, that would be helpful.
	And it could be closer than we think.
	The University of the Sunshine Coast starting clinical trials of a new Moderna vaccine.
	So the aim of this trial really is to see whether a combination vaccine that includes all three would be as tolerable as giving someone each vaccine separately.
	COVID, RSV and influenza, a triple barrel shot posing a major shake-up to Australia's annual vaccine rollout while helping to ease the burden on an overloaded system.
	One visit, one vaccination, possibly a booster, as opposed to potentially three visits, three boosters, and I just think that will take a big load off our current health system.
	It can take several years to collate enough data before the vaccine can be rolled out safely.
	Researchers here are now looking to expand their pool of participants and are calling for more volunteers.
	We're looking for people who are generally in good health between 50 and 75 and they can be male or female.
	I'm quite proud to say that in the years to come, if this vaccine is developed, that I played a tiny, tiny part in its development.
	Wow, ma'am.
	I love that super shot!
	Triple barrel!
	I'm seeing a lot of trolls in the troll room saying, no way, no compassion, screw them!
	This is, this is exactly, this is the result they want.
	This is what they want.
	Be divided and we can do that forever and it's gonna benefit nobody.
	You are stupid.
	It's not, it's not, it's not okay.
	Yes, they wanted you dead.
	Yes, they hated you.
	Sure they did.
	The mind control is so strong.
	The vaccinated, oh come on John, the vaccinated, it was the pandemic of the unvaccinated, they're killing us!
	Jimmy Kimmel said, yo, guy who was unvaccinated got a heart attack, die!
	No, no, no.
	Show you're stronger than that.
	It will make us all stronger against the very people who are trying to kill all of us.
	All of us.
	Reach out to your brothers and sisters.
	Gosh.
	That is so crazy.
	So crazy.
	Alright, do whatever you want.
	You're gonna play, almost play a clip that I have a copy of, but I sweetened my version.
	Oh, let's play it.
	What do you got?
	This is the cancer clip.
	Oh yeah, okay.
	I will not play mine.
	Yours will be much better.
	Cancer deaths in the United States have dropped 33%.
	The past three decades.
	That's according to a new report from the American Cancer Society.
	Among the report's highlights, cervical cancer rates dropped 65% for women in their early 20s, in part thanks to the HPV vaccine.
	I think not.
	But there are troubling signs as well.
	Advanced prostate cancer diagnoses have risen roughly 4.5% annually since 2011.
	For a closer look, I'm joined by Karen Knudson, CEO of the American Cancer Society.
	Karen, thank you so much for joining us.
	Let's just start with that good news.
	A 33% drop in cancer deaths since 1991.
	That translates to an estimated 3.8 million deaths averted.
	How did we get there?
	That's exactly right.
	So 1991 was a high watermark in this country when we peaked for our cancer death rates in the U.S.
	So since that time, the investments in cancer research by the American Cancer Society, the government, and other entities has really borne fruit in giving us new strategies for cancer prevention, for early detection, which we know is critical for an improved outcome, as well as new treatments and, in some cases, cure for the 200 diseases that we call cancer.
	So we have better screening now, there's fewer smokers out there as well, but I do want to highlight that specific 65% drop in cervical cancer rates.
	That's for women in their early 20s.
	We know that cancer kills some 4,000 women every year.
	How much of that decline do you attribute just to that vaccine?
	We see a significant relationship between vaccination for HPV and that decline because it's specific to that group of women, that precipitous decline in cervical cancer incidence.
	I stopped it there because it became a promotion for the HPV vaccine for the next 10 minutes.
	That's all they talked about.
	Did they also talk about boys getting the HPV shot?
	No, they actually... That's odd.
	I found it odd too.
	They just really were pounding home the HPV vaccine.
	4,000 out of what?
	300 million people?
	I mean, it's not like it's inconsequential, but there's more people on the VAERS database after getting the mRNA vaccine than 4,000 that died.
	Yeah, we were all over this.
	Gardasil.
	They were promoting this in dorm rooms, hanging little goodie bags on the doors of college dorm rooms.
	And if I recall, I'm just throwing out numbers, I think it was of the 12 different types of HPV, this only really stopped three.
	It was very painful.
	You needed two.
	I don't think it was covered by insurance at the time, it was very expensive, $300 either total or one.
	And if you also remember, there were a lot of adverse reactions.
	Oh yeah.
	There were girls who were... Walking backwards.
	Walking backwards, yeah!
	Walking backwards was the best.
	They had tics and all kinds of... And parents, I mean, it just comes and goes.
	They report on it, move on, nothing to see here.
	But the fact that this was triggered by the number 33 twice, when I hear that in the report, I'm thinking, well, there's something amiss here.
	Kind of, kind of done there.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Okay, are we done with, let me see, are we done with Big Pharma for today?
	Oh wait, no, Big Pharma has one other thing.
	Nah, it's not worth it.
	I'm not gonna play that.
	I'm bored with Pharma.
	What else can we yell about?
	Oh, I do have China and the COVID in China update.
	We should be able to get that out.
	Oh yeah, of course, if you have that.
	Here we go.
	A top epidemiologist in China is warning that rampant COVID-19 infections may not subside for two to three months.
	Instead, he says, the virus will spread from cities into the countryside as millions of people travel home for Lunar New Year celebrations.
	That raises new fears since many of China's rural communities cannot cope with major medical emergencies.
	Isn't this exactly the same, dare I say it, playbook as 2019?
	Yeah, but in 2019 they cut the travel off.
	Right, okay, but I think first they let them go for the Chinese Lunar New Year.
	No, no, no, they cut them off.
	I thought they let them go.
	No.
	No, it would have been a mess.
	The, uh, and this is like, now the other, the other analysis I've heard is that this is a, this is Omicron.
	It's not going to be, you know, there's going to, and, and something like 80% of the whole population's got tests positive.
	It's just like, it's out of control, but it's just, uh, it's not killing that, that man.
	I mean, they're killing, but you got a billion point 1.4 billion people.
	A lot of people are going to be dead.
	Details, details, details.
	They have to, uh, they've put a stop to the lockdowns and that's what matters.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Well, oh, I, this one last thing.
	You, uh, I saw that you signed up for the Super Secret Mastodon instance.
	Yeah, I did.
	Pretty cool, right?
	Well, what it does, it's a super-secret mastodon instance.
	It's exactly what it is.
	So in other words, it's unknown, and so it's not blocked.
	Well, one or two found it and said, blocked, it's curry, block him!
	Why did they, how did they figure that out?
	I don't know.
	It's fascia-adjacent, man.
	I don't know.
	They figured it out.
	Well, that stinks.
	You're going to have to create a whole new instance.
	No, no, no.
	Believe me.
	It's an unknown instance.
	You're good.
	And you went to the federated timeline because I've carefully curated all of these former Twitter people, I would say, mainly.
	Yeah, a bunch of journalists and other a-holes like Robert Reich over there at Cal.
	Oh, yeah, he's on... Yeah, he's on there a lot.
	And they're all... and a lot of them are massed on that social, which I thought was interesting.
	And that whole group on Macedon.social, which have blocked no agenda, they're a bunch of Nazis, but they're in the guise of communists.
	It's unbelievable.
	These people are shameful, all of them.
	It's great.
	Well, it's kind of frightening.
	Kept me up a little too late, thanks for that.
	This is a trick that both of us pull on each other rarely.
	I don't do it much, but he did it.
	He sends me this link at about 11 at night.
	I'm going to go to bed in an hour, and it's this crazy instance, so I go in there just to check it out, and oh my god, it's like a goldmine of creeps.
	And so all journalists going, well, you know, Trump sucks.
	They're still on Trump.
	What is their problem?
	Did you see Jeff Jarvis?
	Because he's the master.
	He boosts everybody.
	So if you're looking for someone to follow... Oh yeah, no, you follow Jeff Jarvis, you get connected to all the douchebags.
	I don't know if you saw... Yeah, he boosts everything.
	I don't know if you saw Lena Nguyen.
	I did not catch Lena Nguyen.
	No, no, she's not on Mastodon, but she wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post.
	And I'll bring this up here.
	And I found that I had not heard of this article.
	Luckily, Jeff Jarvis tutored it.
	And it's, we are over counting COVID deaths and hospitalization.
	That's a problem.
	Yeah, now this is interesting.
	I read this already.
	This piece, which is like contrary to everything that's been going on for two years, claims that they're over... claims what we claimed over a year ago when the Canadian guy who was investigating the Canadian COVID deaths, if you remember that clip...
	Some guys going around looking at each and every COVID death and found that about 20% of them were actually from COVID and 80% were from car accidents or they just happened to have something else going on and they were in the hospital and they died.
	But they tested positive and some people were being actually tested after they died even though they weren't in the hospital for COVID.
	And so we've always assumed they were over-reporting, but all during that period, and Lena Wen was one of these people, all during that period, they kept saying the same words over and over, and we probably could document this with clips, which was, wow, we think they're probably being under-reported.
	The number's probably low.
	Fauci used to say that all the time.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	The number's probably low.
	It's much worse.
	It's much worse.
	It's much worse than the reporting.
	So, what was nice about this is that Jeff Jarvis had something to say.
	And Jeff Jarvis, by the way, the bigoted racist, he's a bigoted racist.
	Jeff Jarvis said this, I don't under... I have to do a Jeff Jarvis voice.
	I don't understand.
	No, you're way off here.
	Can you do a Jeff Jarvis?
	I think your high-pitched guy would be better.
	I don't understand what happened to when!
	She's been playing... Okay, let's not do it.
	That's better.
	I'll do a little... If you could try to hold that one, I don't think you can do it.
	No, I'm not gonna do it.
	It triggers Tina.
	She doesn't like that voice.
	I don't understand why... You know why?
	That's that robe, but that voice you used to do about the fire hydrant.
	Freddy the Firewall!
	It's a firewall.
	It's very triggering.
	I don't understand what happened to when.
	She has been playing into the far-right's anti-science campaigns with this pandemic and the Post is helping her.
	Now let's read a couple of the follow-ups.
	Matt Chambers.
	I don't know who that is.
	She's terrible.
	Ignore her.
	Sam Adams.
	Federated dot press.
	People who believe this don't know how to read a death certificate.
	I've covered this extensively.
	The right claims COVID is not a factor in death of people who are already sick when it absolutely is.
	Many could have lived years longer if it were not for COVID.
	They're trying to say if a person dies in a car crash and has COVID, authorities claim COVID killed them, which is absolutely false.
	I can't figure out what Republicans think they gain from this disinformation.
	So now Lena Wynn is just like Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi are now right wing.
	They're a far right.
	She's about it.
	She's a lefty.
	These people turn on themselves so quickly.
	This is the big gripe that both Taibbi and Greenwald have with the left because they're extremely left wing.
	Greenwald in particular is a socialist.
	Let's try.
	And they would try, you know, they got kicked off all the platforms because they questioned this Russiagate thing and there was no verboten.
	So a doctor who was heralded for her, now we think she's a shill, but heralded for her heroics during the Boston Marathon bombing, who was the, who was running the, I think the Massachusetts health system.
	You know, she was heralded as fantastic.
	And you're right, on a dime.
	Ann Roper.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	What do hashtag Republicans gain from hashtag COVID lies?
	Poor people die so they won't vote for hashtag Democrats, which give a hashtag MAGA, hashtag GOP boost in the next elections.
	Ditto for the older voters who remember hashtag social democracy ethos of ye olde, hashtag USA, and hashtag reps.
	God.
	Nick Social Security Welfare Payments, Medicare Iterations, Hashtag Gerrymander, Replace of Dead and Threatened Voters, Money Diverted to Hashtag Republicans, Including Private Healthcare Rather Than Publicly Funded, Hashtag COVID Vaccines and Care.
	Now, and then Jeff Jarvis Hashtag Hashtag City Now Jeff Jarvis answers her They are institutional insurrectionists, burning down every institution of society.
	Voting, democracy, science, education, so as not to share them with those who follow.
	I denounced Jeff Jarvis as a human being.
	Wow.
	What an idiot.
	Wait.
	The trouble with me?
	Jeff Jarv at Jeff Jarvis.
	I've got to admit I'm quite shocked by this.
	What's happening to your papers of record over there?
	I noticed the Times has hired David French recently.
	Seemingly Barry Weiss wasn't right wing enough.
	This is, this is crazy.
	It's the media.
	And then... It's the entire media.
	Jeff Jarvis is a professor of media.
	Yeah, he's promoting it.
	They now have a scholarship for Mastodon at his university, or college, or community college, wherever he works.
	I think he's at NYU.
	Yeah, community college.
	Wait, let me read the last one.
	By the way, the reason I was interfered, I think this is replacing my much-missed reading from Facebook that you bailed on.
	I have an actual reading.
	Well, I don't have Facebook.
	We bailed on Facebook six years ago almost.
	Uh, at Jeff Jarvis, I can't read this article due to paywall, but hasn't this been her M.O.
	for a long time now?
	The hero of the Boston Marathon bombing!
	Which has never been her M.O.
	for a long time.
	So he answers, yes, and I don't want to waste a gift link on her, as I'm sure you'd appreciate.
	So he won't give away one of his gift links so that this person can read this horrible Republican.
	Lena Wendt.
	Lena Wendt, the Republican.
	And WaPo is giving her a platform!
	So now WaPo is under fire.
	Isn't that interesting?
	So even their paper of record, the Washington Post, I have kind of a Facebook thing for you.
	I got this email.
	Now, did we cover the Biden in Mexico on the last show?
	Did we not?
	A little bit, yeah.
	Well, did we not cover the agreement they made?
	Yeah, you did.
	Did I not read them verbatim?
	I don't remember if you read it.
	If you read it again, I will remember.
	No, it was all about irregular immigration.
	And you had to refer back to the Los Angeles Declaration, which was all those countries that said, yes, we've got to streamline irregular immigration, which is newspeak for illegal entry into the country.
	Right.
	We did discuss that.
	So here's the email I get.
	Uh, here we go.
	Subject.
	Your coverage, or lack of, the ongoing invasion of the southern border!
	Sir, your show's failure to address the border crisis and the U.S.
	media's slant towards opening borders is puzzling.
	Mass immigration is the only issue that matters, not bugs as food, not COVID or vax fears or whatever topic you and your co-host obsess over.
	The demographic replacement occurring on an unprecedented scale will make many of other issues irrelevant.
	I understand you are no agenda, but to barely utter any word or comment about Biden's trip to El Paso and the whitewashing that occurred there prior to his visit and the media's silence on that issue is interesting!
	If you are pro-mass immigration, just come out and say it!
	Mike Wilkins.
	You know, you might put a little more comic book guy into that voice and you'd nail it.
	The problem is, so this comes in and Tina says, what are you doing?
	And I'm like, I'm typing an email to this guy.
	I hate him.
	And she's laughing, saying, you know, you gotta calm down, son.
	Because this guy, he doesn't, this is, I think this is probably just someone who doesn't listen or doesn't hear.
	We literally discussed the irregular immigration.
	That's the only thing we discussed almost on that topic.
	But he wants the outrage, you see.
	People want to hear the outrage.
	We don't deliver.
	We don't deliver outrage.
	And I believe that that's probably... I mean, we're not here to deliver outrage.
	There's plenty of people doing that.
	People should go read the mission statement at noagendashow.net.
	and understand what we do.
	We're not here to be outraged over any of this.
	We're here to laugh at most of it.
	It's kind of funny.
	Pretty much.
	To be outraged is ludicrous, at least to us.
	I mean, I get irked about media coverage and sometimes I'll have a little annoyance in my voice, but outrage is not healthy.
	No, and people get stuck in that.
	And then they're outraged over really very minor things on a grand scale.
	The grand scale of things that outrage is just things that, okay, whatever.
	Are you surprised?
	Are you surprised that your government wants you dead?
	What is the surprise here?
	Let's have a good laugh and keep our heads clear.
	So we can, you know, be aware of what's going on.
	So you can make decisions that are appropriate.
	But I guess, and this is my problem with most podcasts that do anything kind of like we do.
	And that includes Bongino and everybody, all these people.
	Okay, I got it.
	It's an outrage.
	But let's go in, let's look at some documents and see if we can figure out what's going on.
	Let's laugh at the poor propaganda, I mean advertising, that is being shoveled in front of you.
	This is interesting.
	This is how you weaponize yourself, you defend yourself against what's next.
	Not this, you didn't mention the media cleaned up the illegal immigrants in the airport.
	Come on, man.
	We talked about that weeks ago, when it was actually happening, and we weren't outraged.
	We were like, wow, that's pretty crazy.
	Real problem.
	But making a whole show out of that?
	Why would anybody be surprised by that?
	Exactly.
	I mean, this is like the, hey, the boss is coming to clean up the shop.
	Well, you're running a pretty clean shop here, boys.
	Looking good.
	Well, thanks, boss.
	Yeah.
	See you again next year.
	This is new, this is a new idea.
	Good work, Brownie!
	Remember that?
	Good work, Brownie!
	This is a new idea to people, that people would do this to kind of like, you know, clean up the house a little bit because you got some guests coming over.
	I'm outraged!
	The place should be a mess!
	Yeah, we even covered the El Paso Regional, the airport, that more people were coming in than were leaving.
	I mean, we had this long... I mean, it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	So I replied to this guy and he never came back, which is too bad because I was like, nah, most of them will come back.
	Most of them do come back and then try something else.
	I had one guy who went back and forth with me.
	He comes back and still nothing happened.
	I thought that was kind of interesting.
	Well, what I'd say seven times out of ten, someone's outraged like that and I'll go back and forth and then eventually it's like, Oh, man, I'm sorry.
	My girlfriend left me.
	I stepped on my dog.
	It's always something like that.
	I was drinking.
	It's my favorite.
	I was drinking.
	Well, okay.
	Don't drink and email your favorite podcaster or podcasters because, man, it's good there's two of us.
	And with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the health scare.
	Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John C. Devereux!
	Good morning to you, Mr. Anker, and also good morning all ships and seagulls to the ground, feedin' the air subs in the water, all the dames and lights out there.
	And good morning to the trolls in the troll room!
	Uh... Lots of trolls here.
	Uh, I think... Let's jump right off the bat.
	Now, 2206.
	2206.
	That's pretty good for Sunday.
	Ah, that's pretty normal.
	Yeah, that's looking up.
	I'm pretty happy about that.
	Considering the donations who are off by... Oh yeah, we're going to do the same thing we did last show.
	We're going to do all the donations in one go because it's so short, it doesn't even make sense to stop twice.
	So we're going to do it all in one go, which means there'll be plenty of show after the donation segment for those of you who bail out thinking nothing's left, you silly fools.
	I see you.
	You can join the trolls at trollroom.io.
	You go that way.
	Ooh, what was that?
	That's new.
	Sorry.
	It should have been.
	No, I want the other one.
	Do it.
	Do that one.
	I like that.
	It's a whale saying, hello, buddies.
	I like that one.
	You can go to trollroom.io and there you will be presented with the stream.
	You can listen to that live right away and you can log in to the IRC chat.
	You can also, and there's going to be more and more apps doing this at newpodcastapps.com.
	Currently Podverse is the one you want.
	Because you can set an alert and then when we go live the bat signal actually pops up on your podcast app where you listen to your podcast anyway and you can log right into the troll room there and listen to the live stream.
	It's a crazy concept.
	We put live streaming podcasts into the podcast app.
	It's genius!
	Now a little something about knowagendasocial.com.
	Which is the not super secret and very much blocked instance, which we started in 2017, now going in our sixth year.
	So we were there way, way before this hype.
	Now, we were not new to the Fediverse at all.
	That had been going on for many years before that.
	But it was really cool.
	We started as a community.
	We limited it to 10,000 accounts and then we purge once a year.
	If you haven't logged in for a year, you're gone.
	And the reason why is this is a very nice, and we've always promoted it that way, a very nice social network that does not have algos and that we can have conversations and do whatever we want with each other.
	And we're pretty open.
	Freeze speech!
	We're a freeze speech zone.
	Now, I get reports, you know, that you can report accounts on our server from anywhere you want.
	And sometimes it's like, you know, someone... You kicked a guy off the other day.
	That's what I'm going to talk about.
	There's, you know, we get a lot of bogus reports like c.im, which is a very small instance, and they report everybody for saying things about vaccines.
	Okay, so I actually blocked them.
	Go away.
	And I kind of was, I think it's because I'm Getting older and I'm taking your advice because you seem to be living a healthy life and you seem okay and I want to be like you when I grow up.
	Good idea!
	And so I get a report about this one guy and all he's doing is having arguments with people on other servers.
	He's not involved in anything whatsoever on No Agenda Social.
	Oh he's just a shit poster off off-site and giving us a bad name.
	And so I looked at this and I know there's a lot of people reporting because he was very inflammatory and I don't appreciate kike Jew nigger I mean no it's this is just that's not you're not we don't do that in our community I'm not gonna make a problem if someone throws in what I'm not gonna I'm not gonna police anybody on your speech but If you're on our server to only shitpost other people, you're gone.
	Go get an account somewhere else.
	And I posted this.
	I said, I'm sick and tired of people using their account to only shitpost other instances.
	I have no patience for that.
	You're gone.
	Interesting response.
	Most people cannot read apparently.
	I got responses like, I demand to know the rules of shitposting!
	And like, you're missing the point.
	It's not about the content.
	It's about the fact that you're not involved in our community.
	This is for our community and anyone from the outside who wants to can contribute.
	And of course, you can answer anybody you want from anywhere else.
	And I looked at his whole timeline.
	The only thing he was doing is shitposting other people.
	That's not what our server's for.
	Yes, it's a privilege to be on noagendasocial.com.
	I had a problem with this.
	You're supposed to say, pray tell what?
	Pray tell what?
	So I look at this thing that you posted about kicking this guy off.
	I have no idea and you never mentioned who it was.
	I'd like to know.
	Someone I've never heard of.
	I mean, I could go in and look, but I would have to go... Well, who cares now?
	It's a border under the bridge.
	Yeah, not that important.
	You just go, you're like blasting some guy with five barrels of a two-barrel shotgun and you're blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	You suck.
	You're out.
	You're gone.
	And I'm thinking, who is he talking about?
	Oh, and the guy was gone.
	So it was nothing to see.
	It was just the guy.
	All he did was just tell other people.
	How full of shit they were and, you know, calling him names and, you know, like, and it had nothing to do with no agenda.
	Nothing.
	So I'm like, okay, if you're here just for that.
	That gives us a bad reputation, guys like that.
	I don't even care about that.
	We have this place.
	I do.
	Okay.
	We have a place for our community and you don't have to always be talking, but it's amongst, it's like a meetup.
	If some guy came into a meetup and was just yelling at the restaurant staff, you know, we kick him out too.
	Shut up.
	So there's not going to be any rules.
	There's no, it's not about shit posting.
	I don't care.
	I really don't care in general what you say.
	I really don't.
	And I have no, no reason to, I mean, people report us.
	I mean, there's all our own people report us.
	Like I have nothing better to do.
	You dicks.
	It's unbelievable.
	So I think you'd be labored.
	I have it indeed.
	Noagendasocial.com.
	It's a great place.
	Now let us thank the artist for episode 1520 of the best podcast in the universe, the appropriately titled Ham Bone.
	I learned a new word.
	And our art was created by Nessworks.
	And this was a, I mean, a lot of people like this art.
	And just so everybody knows, if you're new to the show, we change the art on every single one of our podcasts, the album art, um, and, uh, good podcast apps, new podcast apps, they will show this.
	I think Apple finally figured out that they should show this.
	This was a really dynamite piece, which in, At first I didn't even recognize what was going on until I saw this... I mean, what do you call this?
	Like a DJ on fire?
	DJ and he was... His hair on fire.
	His hair was on fire and his turntables were a gas stove.
	I didn't even see that in the first instance.
	And we liked it.
	It was good.
	It was nutty, and I liked it.
	Bring the heat.
	It was the best usable piece.
	Now, Roundy came in with three versions of one piece after the fact.
	I don't know why these things are placed where they are, because I don't remember seeing them.
	You used this in the newsletter.
	I did.
	I used one of them.
	Proving to you that I do read the newsletter.
	One times.
	I got a one, mark one.
	There were two different backgrounds.
	Even I can see the blue and the purple difference.
	I see that one.
	And green.
	It was just three different backgrounds, wasn't it?
	Well, there's also a cupcake.
	A cupcake show.
	It was kind of grotesque, now that I look at it.
	Yeah, it was kind of grotesque, and it probably wouldn't have been a good piece, and it may have not even been a good piece for the newsletter, because the newsletter was unresp- it didn't work.
	Ah.
	So I blame the art.
	Okay.
	Thanks, Roundy!
	Thanks, Roundy.
	Thanks, Roundy.
	Something attractive.
	Also, this Ukraine Wins Again original art, John by Josh.
	I don't remember seeing that.
	It wasn't going to be picked, but I don't remember seeing that one at first.
	Which one?
	The Tantaniel?
	No, by Josh Kornel.
	Where is that?
	Above it?
	No, it's down.
	It's from the fat baby at the top.
	The one fat baby go down one, two, three, four, five.
	It's got black colors and a woman with wings and big feet.
	I don't know.
	I don't remember seeing that either.
	I don't remember seeing that.
	These things aren't coming in in order.
	If you are listening to us live, you can go to noagenda.com.
	Artgenerator.com and you can look at it live.
	You'll also see what's already being created as we speak by our artists.
	And if you're listening to this as a podcast, that new podcast app will show it to you as Dreb Scott uses it for our chapters.
	We had Make Brazil Great Again, no.
	We had the megaphone with It's an Op or Op.
	You actually mentioned that one as a possibility.
	Yeah, I kind of thought it was cute.
	Yeah, I nixed that right away.
	Well, you hate the megaphone.
	I don't hate it, it's just like... Well, you called me out by saying, oh, you like the megaphone every time one shows up.
	We thought... It's true.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	I think we both thought the... The... What was it?
	Wasn't it in this one?
	The Major League Bullshit MLB.
	Comic strip blogger made an MLB version, which I think I did mention.
	And there was also a...
	100% copyright infringing MLB version.
	Where do I see that?
	The one that has the actual MLB logo.
	MLB logo, yeah.
	That's gonna be a problem.
	Lots of egg stuff.
	Yeah.
	What else was there?
	Fat Lives Matter and all this stuff.
	We're not trying to insult people.
	All the time.
	Okay.
	Anything else?
	Anything else on this art?
	No, that's the thing that covers it.
	We appreciate all of our artists.
	There's no wrong.
	If you're able to get it up on that artgenerator.com, there's no wrong.
	We love it.
	We now have, goodness, let me count them, how many we have.
	We have 28,565 unique pieces.
	I'm surprised there hasn't been some sort of a armed rebellion in the No Agenda Social or a protest over not picking something.
	A protest?
	Are you trying to stir the pot?
	I'm just saying.
	Don't stir the pot, John C. Dvorak.
	That's not good.
	That's not nice.
	Thank you, artists.
	We love you.
	We mean that sincerely.
	It is one of the highest forms of talent and time you can dedicate, especially because you're doing it on the fly, probably while you're at work, listening to this, pretending to pay attention to your boss or do whatever you should be doing.
	It's very much appreciated.
	Now we'd like to thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1521.
	These are the people who came in $200 or above and these are real credits forever credits.
	This is not not a joke This is just like when you see the credits when you see it rolling on a Hollywood production television movie, etc These are the people who get listed because they they helped finance it.
	That's how it works now You're financing it because you got something out of it.
	You got some value.
	This is why we call it the value for value model.
	You felt something, it did something for you, or perhaps you had a stock tip or a relationship tip, or maybe you're not dead because of us.
	It's all possible.
	Whatever it is, turn that into a number, send it back to us.
	We appreciate it.
	Justin Varner from Richmond, Virginia.
	Who kicks in, and this is interesting, I've never seen a pink field on the spreadsheet.
	You know things are changing in the back office when new colors start to show up.
	Have you noticed this pink?
	It's very readable.
	Yeah, but I just, I don't know what it means, the pink.
	I know blue is night, yellow is birthday, gray is note, pink.
	In the morning, gentlemen!
	Purple was also the douchebag color.
	Oh, I know what this is!
	Oh!
	This is a show number donation!
	1-5-2-1!
	Yes, yes, yes!
	New color.
	We love that new color.
	Good work.
	In the morning, gentlemen, please accept this value proposition.
	Demonstration.
	In the amount of 1521 Monopoly bills to commemorate the show number of the same non-false equivalency.
	I need you once again to call out Bill for being a huge douchebag.
	Sorry.
	I don't know why that happens.
	Douchebag!
	Gotta fix that.
	Not donating since the last call out in 1424 and now going on 11 years as a listener.
	He is obsessed with the show and doesn't know how to consume information outside of that format.
	And who can blame him for our shitty education system?
	As such, he is hereby ordered to donate immediately or the douchings will continue every episode for perpetuity in the form of a recurring donation of $50 with a note, Bill is a freeloading lazy son of a bitch.
	Okay, thank you as always for really digging into the shit.
	Actually, Bill is contributing more that way by not donating.
	That's correct.
	Keep it up, Bill.
	Good work, Bill.
	Gotcha.
	There's no one else who can do what you both do, nor would they want to.
	True.
	It is such a vow of poverty.
	It's an incredible important service to our country, and I hope that this year you are awarded with the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Blow Jiden.
	Please play as much Al Sharpton as possible.
	I would even vote for a show dedicated to Sharpton super cuts, and I bet others would too, if only.
	If only there was enough to do a full show.
	Believe me.
	No, there's not enough.
	Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin, a national drive to push back, or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance.
	But resist, we must.
	We must, and we will much.
	Just a classic.
	Classic.
	Classic Sharpton.
	I believe that's the original.
	That is the OG.
	That's what got us into the obsession with Al Sharpton.
	Yeah.
	Who knew?
	I think they do a lot of cuttings.
	I listen to the show infrequently, maybe once or twice a month, trying to catch something.
	You catch something a little.
	It's all minor.
	It's not like the good old days with respect, R-E-S-P-I-C-T, that sort of thing.
	Well, we should play the short version then since it's Respect, by the way.
	Respect.
	So Richard Gabriel's on the list from Tucson, Arizona.
	He came in at $356.
	I'm going to read what I have from him, which is a note about a note.
	And he came to the subject, instead of saying donation to the subject, I got perturbed and confused.
	I made a hefty executive producer qualifying first time donation, which is this one.
	So let's give him a de-douching right off the bat.
	You've been de-douched.
	Then I sent a note that I'd like read to this address, which is my address, johnatdvorak.org, which is where you should be sending to notes at noagendashow.net.
	It's all going to be on the new donation page, Q1.
	Oh yeah, it'll be on there right at the top.
	I'd like to read for the Sunday show.
	Now he doesn't attach it, so he just continues with his complaining.
	January 15th for this email address.
	I did all this on Wednesday, January 11th.
	I checked my email and learned my message was blocked!
	For disallowed content!
	Yes.
	This happens on my server, that's why I don't recommend sending it, especially if there's one swear word in there, like anything, it will get blocked.
	Unless you're on the whitelist, and I don't have any reason to put them on the whitelist, I never get a note from you.
	I think even if you say shit, I think you get blocked from your server.
	Oh yeah, you definitely will.
	Yeah.
	Please inform me exactly where to mail these notes, and I send them a note back.
	To be read on the show.
	And I even put the word donation in the subject.
	I scour the KnowAgenda webpage to understand exactly how to do this stuff, but it's not very clear.
	We make it clear on the show, but obviously it's not good enough.
	And the reason why, if I can just interject.
	It has always been the intention that you can leave, and this is how it started, leave a small short note of thanks on the PayPal, in the PayPal area where that is intended.
	And since people can't figure out PayPal, They start emailing notes, and now it's become a thing where, I need to email my note, how come it's not clear?
	So that's why, you know, our incredible staff, which as you know is, we have so much production help, is going to revamp the donation page to get this in under control.
	First quarter.
	Q1.
	So, we're very sorry.
	We really are.
	We're just two dudes.
	All I understand is to email this account, which is my account, and put the donation.
	Okay, so we don't have whatever the original note was that was cussing or something.
	I don't know what it was in there.
	Because he could have attached that note to this.
	He could attach it as an attachment and probably would have gotten through because I don't think those are scanned.
	Okay, you made your point.
	Let's go.
	That's what he said?
	Yeah, that's the end of his note, so let's give him a Karma.
	We give him a double-up Karma.
	Without a note, you get a double-up Karma.
	You've got... Karma.
	See, I have this one.
	This is a note from... Hold on a second.
	This is from... Sir Alexander.
	Yes, Sir Alexander.
	And I have his note, which is nicely scanned by our crack staff.
	In the morning gentlemen, oh ITM gentlemen, proud virtue signaler with an overdue donation.
	May I request an R2-D2 health karma for all?
	With this donation I move to whatever the next level of knighthood is accounting below.
	So he will have a title change today.
	My piping hot wife and I have fled Middle Cascadia for the beautiful hills of Middle Tennessee.
	Would it be possible to request a name change from Sir Alexander, Black Knight of Middle Cascadia to Sir Alexander, Black Knight of Middle Tennessee?
	May you... Of course, we're gonna do that.
	May you keep this wonderful racket going for another 1,500 episodes.
	Thank you very much.
	R2-D2 for you, sir.
	You've got... Karma.
	It should be noted that his donation was 338-06.
	And it should also be noted that he used the word piping to trigger me.
	Oh.
	Okay, what is the 06 about then?
	38-06?
	38-06?
	Oh, it could be.
	And why is piping hot?
	Well, I went on a rant about two or three years ago because Martha Stewart kept saying, piping hot, piping hot.
	And I've yet to hear any explanation for what piping means.
	What is piping hot?
	Oh, I know.
	What?
	It's when the stovepipe on an old stove is very, very hot.
	So what's that got to do with my cup of coffee?
	It's just a temperature warning, John.
	Mark Stokesbury in Centennial, Colorado, 333.33, and he writes, good morning, Crackin' Buzz.
	Since discovering the No Agenda Show via the Tom Woods Show, Tom Woods Donation, I've been hooked, and I am well on my way to knighthood.
	I do want, I do wanna.
	I do wanna wish my sister-in-law, Sarah Stokesbury, a happy 44th birthday on Monday the 16th, and shamelessly direct all of Gitmo Nation to my substack at markstokesbury.substack.com.
	And that's Mark Stokesbury, is what it sounds like.
	It showcases my art, much of which I think even John would appreciate.
	I looked at it.
	He's got a nice style.
	Very professional.
	No jingles, but I'd love to do some marriage karma as I tie the knot later this year.
	Best, Mark Stokesbury in Centennial, Colorado.
	Thank you very much, Mark.
	Our final executive producer for episode 1521.
	You've got karma.
	On to our associate execs.
	Elon Humberg.
	In Bellingham, Washington, my son Ari and I share a birthday.
	My birthday is 1-16-81, which is $160.81, plus his birthday, 1-16-19, equals 2-33.
	Hence the donation amount, and thank you for your courage.
	Please add us both to the birthday list.
	116.19 equals 233.
	Hence the donation amount.
	And thank you for your courage.
	Please add us both to the birthday list.
	Consider it done.
	Onward with Erica Callahan.
	$200.
	My dog is giving me the sad puppy face.
	Must be time to donate.
	Sewickley. Sewickley. Sewickley, Pennsylvania.
	$200.
	My dog is giving me the sad puppy face.
	Must be time to donate.
	Thanks for all you do.
	Yes.
	We're getting a lot of donations from her.
	And you're spot on because this is the last one for the execs and associate execs.
	Sir Reddy Kilowatt from Battlement Mesa, Colorado, 200.
	Hello, SirReddyKiloBot from the troll room.
	Annual donation earlier than usual this year since the last show was so light.
	Thank you.
	Can I get a little entrepreneur karma for my now full-time drone business?
	No jingles, no karma.
	You literally asked for karma and then you said no jingles, no karma.
	But you know what?
	We'll give it to you anyway.
	Thank you, SirReddyKiloBot.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you to these execs and associate executive producers.
	Forever Credits.
	They do not expire.
	They will not expire.
	You can put them anywhere you want.
	We'll vouch for you if anyone questions them.
	Put them on IMDB.
	That is the Forever Credit place.
	And just have a search and see what kind of actual heavyweights, including Hollywood heavyweights, have one of these coveted Forever titles.
	And thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
	Shall we continue right on?
	Yes, with Terry Wentz in Langley, Washington, 125.
	Dakota Walker from Boise, Idaho, 113.85 with a birthday donation on January 13th.
	Dylan Edmonds in Santa Maria, California, and some jobs coming at the end, $100 from him.
	Lucas Williams Roswell, New Mexico, $100.
	Sir Slam Bob Rowling in San Jose, $80.33.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin hasn't missed a beat.
	Locust, North Carolina, $8008.
	Uh, boobs.
	Peter Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Westminster, Colorado, 6923.
	Adam Munzinger in Brookfield, Wisconsin, 6869.
	Sir Don in Chandler, Arizona, 6006, small boobs.
	Christopher Dexter, 5678.
	or 5678.
	Angela Pickering, 5510. N A local 512. Jeez.
	In a local in Austin, Texas, 5120.
	Poor showing there at the local.
	Paul Dubois is from... John, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Don't do that.
	Most meetups, don't say that.
	Poor showing.
	People gave what they could.
	That's not nice.
	I'm calling you on that.
	Yeah, okay.
	Paul, they know better.
	Paul Dubois in Kerhunkson, New York.
	50 bucks, and the rest of these will all be $50 donors.
	Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard.
	John Bremenauer in Lamonit Furnace.
	Is that the name of a town in Pennsylvania?
	It's, again, Pennsylvania.
	It's to be avoided.
	Christian Freeman, San Marcos, but not San Marcos, California.
	San Marcos, Texas.
	Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina.
	Patricia Dame, Patricia Worthington in Miami.
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	Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, California.
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	Sir Eric in Richardson, Texas.
	Sarah Gordon in Tucson.
	Daniel Galloway in Marietta, Georgia.
	Gerald Wingenroth in Saugus, and last on the list is Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington.
	I want to thank all these people, including the local there in Austin, for helping us do this show and contributing.
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	And as a reminder, we have a great donation page.
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	Mark Stokesbury wishing his sister-in-law, Sarah Stokesbury, a happy birthday.
	Turns 44 on the 16th.
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	And Elon also wishes his son, Ari, a happy birthday on January 16th.
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	No Knights, no Dames today, so we go straight to the meetups.
	No one should have meetups.
	It's not a party.
	And the party's coming up in Indiana.
	G'day producers.
	If you're in central Indiana, then come attend our New Year No Agenda Meetup.
	On 15 January, we'll be going to the Blind Isle Brewery on Binford Boulevard in Indianapolis.
	This meetup will have good food, good drink, good conversation, and the donation raffle.
	Boom shaka laka!
	So find us on noagendameetups.com for more information and to RSVP.
	Boom shaka laka!
	In the morning, Gitmo Nation and John and Adam.
	This is Sir Camera Chris with BJJ Mads.
	I'm reporting to you live to tape from the newsroom pub next door to the safe house since we got kicked out of there.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	Master Obi-Han from No Agenda Social.
	It's a big scam.
	This is Sir Spooky of the Elm Streets, a bat out of hell known as Chicago.
	In the morning, Adam from Milwaukee.
	In the morning, Sir I'm out in Monsau.
	In the morning, Sir Matt McVader, Knight of Edgewater.
	This is Drew from Wisconsin from Lake Geneva in the morning.
	This is a great night to meet other like-minded people.
	I am so deeply grateful for the community.
	Thank you, John and Adam.
	ITM, this is Dame Smokin' Hot Stew coming to you live from the Newsroom Pub.
	It was a great meetup.
	Sir BNA and the MKE in the morning.
	I'm a spook!
	This is Brian from Union Grove.
	In the morning.
	This is John.
	Thank you for your courage.
	ITM gents, we're having a great time drinking Eastside.
	Have a good one.
	This is John from West Dallas.
	I can't believe you read my email address on the air.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	My name is Chris.
	In the morning.
	Hey, John and Adam.
	At the hairball show.
	Wish you were here.
	Adam, you should have never cut your hair.
	And I'm not wearing pants.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	I'm Misty from West Bend.
	And with that, we're off to see Chris Vox and Hairball.
	In the morning!
	Yeah, but don't try to do stick, okay?
	It doesn't help.
	Now over to Columbus.
	Oh, yeah.
	Also, don't try to be cute with your production.
	Just don't put music.
	Just get to the... I'll do that if it needs it, okay?
	This is Wild Bill with the Central Ohio Meetup.
	Thank you, Adam and John, for your courage.
	And I'm gonna hand it off to the next person in line.
	This is Anthony.
	John Amm, thank you for all you do.
	This is Mark.
	Thank you for your courage.
	In the morning.
	In the morning.
	This is PBR Street Gang.
	Still looking for another mission.
	Meg Cece from CBUS.
	In the morning, this is Josh.
	In the morning, this is Eric.
	I do want to thank you for your courage.
	This is Sir Leary at Dempsey's Pub.
	It's been a great time and it's starting to meet up people.
	Great pronunciation guide, it's Aguilar from Bell Fountain.
	This is Dame Trinity having a great time in Columbus in the morning.
	In the morning, thank you gentlemen.
	And why the Genesis cover is beyond me, it is a complete copyright violation.
	Don't do that.
	But I did like the echo on the... That kind of worked for me.
	Today there is a meet-up... Yeah, I guess you can just make it while you're even thinking of doing that and not just sitting at home listening to the show at the Oxford Saloon in Snohomish, Washington.
	Two o'clock.
	The New Year Crossroads America Indy Tribal Resolutions Meetup, you just heard that.
	That's underway now today.
	Again, I'm doing this on Sundays.
	It's very disturbing.
	Blind Owl Brewery.
	We have the TMI EVAC Zone, 333.
	These are all underway.
	Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, PA.
	I do believe this will be a good meetup.
	Six o'clock at Skipper's Pier Coastal Cajun Kitchen in Gladewater, Texas.
	You can obviously make that one.
	On Wednesday, the Fort Wayne, Indiana Red Pillars Club 33 meeting at 633 at Ziano's Italian Eatery.
	That's DuPont Road in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
	Man, they got a lot going on in Indiana.
	And then on show day, the New Year amygdala cleanse, 6.33 at McThirsty's Pub in Peterborough, Ontario.
	That's Canada.
	Charlotte's Thursday... I'm getting my teeth adjusted on Tuesday.
	Charlotte's Thirsty Third... This is mean.
	My temporary teeth are just slicing all over the place with this one.
	Charlotte's thirsty third Thursday monthly meetup.
	Keep using that one, people.
	No, no, Tuesday we're adjusting it.
	Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina and the Shot Show Shit Show 730 at Gillies in Treasure Island, Las Vegas, Nevada.
	Sir Ramsey Cain, who does not know him, will be hosting that.
	Fantastic.
	These are the No Agenda Meetups.
	There's many more on the calendar through February, to the end of February and beyond.
	If you'd like to see it, go to noagendameetups.com.
	If you can't Find one near you, start one yourself, always a pate!
	Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same Uh, I have, um... I have a couple of ISOs.
	I don't know if any of them are gonna beat anything you might have.
	What do you have?
	I don't have anything good, so you probably can do it.
	Okay.
	Um, this one was sent by, uh, I think, uh, Nolachek Meats.
	Don't eat me, Joe Biden!
	It's cute for the show, but I don't know if it's a good end of show for you.
	It's not necessarily end of show.
	And... Yeah.
	Uh, this one.
	Thank.
	God.
	That's actually not bad.
	Yeah, that's not bad.
	And then this one.
	I'm not hearing anything.
	That's all I got, really.
	I can't even hear the last one.
	Let me listen.
	You have this one?
	Yeah, you have this one.
	Okay, here we go.
	How does he do that?
	I think the thank God.
	Let me see if I cue it up a little tighter.
	How long is it?
	Hold on.
	Thank God.
	If I can get that right at the end.
	A beat has to be taken out.
	Has to be taken out.
	Between thank and God, it doesn't need to have that long of a... Oh, well hold on.
	Let me see if I can do that.
	Probably, because I am... I am the master.
	Let's see how this works.
	Ready?
	Thank God!
	That will require extra work at the end.
	I got an email as we were doing the show about that clip I played from the BBC.
	Within minutes, I guess, of that clip going over the air on the BBC, The Guardian comes out with a headline, BBC criticized for letting cardiologists hijack interview with false COVID jab claim.
	Wow.
	Asim Malhotra's misguided, in quotes, views linking some COVID vaccines to excess heart disease deaths should not have aired, say experts.
	And then the whole story done by this woman, Arwa Madradal, and she finishes it with her little, she does her little bits at the end where she has Stuff like this.
	In other news, Peter Davidson is now dating Martha Stewart.
	Donald Trump is still threatening to run for president.
	Threatening.
	And British tabloids are still churning out 100 articles a day about whether Meghan Markle eating lunch is an outrageous snub to the royal family.
	And it goes on.
	So she's right on top of everything.
	Did we talk about the Guardian is under a current, I think still, ransomware attack and all journalists have been ordered to work from home on their own computers until I think the 26th of January?
	No, I did not know this.
	Yeah, all their systems are ransomware.
	I'd say that's a good start.
	Ransomware, all of them.
	Fox, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC.
	CNBC is funny.
	Leave those guys on.
	Ransomware them all.
	I don't understand why people don't do this.
	I think you can make so much money, particularly around election time, or when Pfizer launches a new super jab, super shot.
	I don't think it's a trivial exploit.
	What are you talking about?
	You just want the newsroom.
	When you get the newsroom, that's a problem.
	Yeah, probably.
	Back up, people.
	You don't like, you know, back up, back up every... at least once a week.
	A full backup, a ghost.
	You want a ghost backup.
	You don't want just, you know, a bunch of files backed up.
	You need a whole... something you know is safe.
	The trouble is, of course, the ransomware guys, if they're smart, they would plant like a month in advance.
	Oh, exactly.
	But they don't.
	There's no reason to because nobody backs up.
	I'm just going to set up the...
	I'm just going back for a second.
	I realize I have a clip about the debt limit being raised, and then I have an interesting associated clip, which came up on the same day that was announced, from BlackRock's Larry Fink.
	So here's Yellen.
	We're going to turn now to a critical time in Washington.
	Congress is on the verge of a political showdown.
	After the Treasury Secretary warned lawmakers that the U.S.
	is projected to reach its debt limit on Thursday.
	ABC's Em Wynn has the latest now from Washington.
	Em, good morning to you.
	Good morning, Gio.
	Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is urging Congress to quickly pass legislation to either raise the federal debt limit or temporarily suspend it.
	And that deadline is January 19th, that's Thursday, and Yellen says before the government will have to resort to, quote, extraordinary measures to avoid defaulting on the nation's more than 30 trillion dollar borrowing capacity.
	Failure to address the debt ceiling, she says, would cause irreparable harm to the U.S.
	economy.
	Some analysts suggesting a default could crash financial markets and potentially lead to a credit downgrade.
	And if the issue drags on, it could lead to a partial government shutdown.
	Raising the limit does not mean more spending, but rather just allows the government to finance existing obligations, including tax refunds, Social Security and Medicare payments.
	Debate over the issue will almost certainly trigger a major political showdown in the House between Republicans, who now have control, and Democratic lawmakers.
	See?
	Everything we said was true!
	push back, expressing interest and using these negotiations to cut spending.
	And the debt ceiling was raised three times under the Trump administration without issue when Democrats held the majority.
	And now Democratic leaders say there's no reason Republicans can't do the same.
	See, everything we said was true.
	Now, I'm going to connect that clip without evidence to the CNBC clip of Larry Finks.
	So let's just say, because you know, I know that you say it'll never happen.
	I'm always looking at what is the CBD, the central bank digital currency, when is it, how are they going to shepherd it in?
	I don't think it'll be a bank holiday and then we wake up and it's happened.
	No, I'm thinking something like this would be a really good opportunity to kind of shuttle something in, like where everyone's arguing and we're all going to die.
	We can't fund anything.
	We can't eat.
	We have no money.
	We could just create it a different way.
	And here's some understanding from Larry Fink.
	How many digital coins do you think will exist in a year from now?
	Well, that's where I don't think we need that many.
	We need, you know, we need a digital, a digitized dollar.
	Let's start there, or some form of stable coin.
	And then we need some form of a crypto asset, whether it's a Bitcoin or a new Bitcoin.
	New Bitcoin!
	Where people want to invest in things that are uncorrelated to any one currency, uncorrelated to one market.
	And that's what gold used to be.
	And can we create this uncorrelated asset class that can play that role?
	Beyond that, in most cases, what digitization of crypto is, it's just digitizing a dollar, having the ability to transact business on the internet.
	And so to me, there's a lot more hype than what it really basically is.
	We're doing a great deal of studying on it.
	We invested in one company that's doing very very well in the stablecoin arena.
	And so we're doing a great deal of studying.
	I'm meeting many people in this arena.
	Can you say which one?
	In public, we invested in Circle.
	And as Circle is one of the, you know, every investor's money goes into a government security.
	And so there are companies that are doing the right thing continuously.
	A lot there.
	A new Bitcoin.
	In Circle, they make the stablecoin USDC.
	I don't know.
	I've always felt stablecoins were inflationary by their very nature.
	They sit on top of apparent assets, which would be government assets.
	So he literally said, the way I understand it, they want to have a stablecoin that tokenizes government bonds.
	So I think that means you're trading on top of stuff that is a bond that is already a debt from the country.
	I don't understand.
	Sounds right.
	Yeah, I don't understand it, but Larry Fink, man, when he comes out, you know something's gonna happen.
	They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a Bitcoin.
	A new one.
	New Bitcoin.
	New Bitcoin.
	So I have a series of clips about the Marines.
	Oh, okay.
	I didn't know any of this was going on, but the Marines are being...
	Thanks to Lloyd Austin and I think even the Marine Commandant.
	We have a lot of Marines who listen to this show.
	Yes, we do.
	And they're trying to ruin the service completely.
	It sounds like if you listen to one of the old timers who they have on one of these, on this NTD clip.
	And I thought it would be worth rolling out this information because I don't know anything about this until I heard this.
	And it just seems pretty, uh, pretty screwy.
	This is the U.S.
	Marines One repurpose.
	And the Marines will repurpose their presence in Japan into what they call a littoral regiment.
	It's designed to be more... Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	I'm sorry.
	Uh, this is from PBS, which makes it More interesting that PBS would cover this because they go into a pretty good job of taking this repurposing the Marines apart.
	Here we go.
	The Marines will repurpose their presence in Japan into what they call a littoral regiment.
	It's designed to be more mobile, better conduct reconnaissance, and fight from remote islands.
	They'll be equipped with not-yet-acquired anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles.
	The Marines portray themselves as the best of the best, capable of responding quickly anywhere on the planet, including, for the last 20 years, fighting land-based counterinsurgencies.
	To focus now on China and maritime campaigns is what a current commander called a revolution.
	From the hill fights of Vietnam to the global war on terrorism, Third Marines has adapted its mission, its structure, its training.
	With threats evolving in the Pacific, it's time to adapt again.
	The Marines' goal, operate within what's known as the First Island Chain, inside the area vulnerable to Chinese missiles, as some other U.S.
	military weapons, such as ships and aircraft, stay at a distance.
	Marine Corps Commandant David Berger.
	You're there side by side, shoulder by shoulder with the partners, with the allies that the U.S.
	has.
	You're not leaving them, you're not going back to the rear.
	This week, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin provided his most public support for the Marines' shifts.
	These actions will bolster deterrence in the region and allow us to defend Japan and its people more effectively.
	Oh yeah, this is great.
	Didn't you put this in the newsletter as well?
	Well, what I put in the newsletter was the fact that they're trying to rearm the Japanese.
	Wasn't that what Lloyd Austin just said there?
	Yeah, kind of, but now they want to put these marine battalions here and there along all these islands.
	Oh, wait, let me say this.
	Put them at our border!
	Okay, I've covered all the basics, John.
	Good work.
	All right.
	A senior administration official told me the Marines' moves represents a significant posture change, and Japan's agreeing to the change reflects a major development in the alliance.
	For more on the Marine Corps' plan to take on China and redesign their force structure, we turn to retired Lieutenant General Paul Van Ryber.
	General, thank you very much.
	Welcome to the program.
	We've spoken to a half dozen.
	Three and four star retired Marine generals like yourself who voice concerns about the Marines' plans.
	You've been particularly public in your criticism.
	What are your worries about the vulnerability, the sustainability and the access for these Marines being deployed in the Pacific?
	The Marines have always been an offensive organization.
	The few times we've been in the defense, it hasn't gone well.
	In fact, there's an analogy.
	In the Second World War, the Marines had a defense battalion on Wake Island.
	They weren't able to resupply it to provide any support.
	And of course, the island fell with tremendous casualties and prisoners.
	What we're talking about now is putting Marines on islands in the first island chain on the Western Pacific.
	There is no ability logistically, and even the Marine Corps will admit this now, to support them.
	You won't be able to get casualties out.
	I spoke to the current Marine commanders on Okinawa, and they acknowledge some of your concerns about logistics, but they point out that they do not have to do everything themselves, that they'll be supported by the Navy and the Air Force.
	Will that be possible?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	So this is old trauma.
	Old South Pacific trauma.
	Well, I guess, but this guy, this guy is great.
	He just thinks, no.
	Can we do that?
	No, it can't be done.
	And I think he's right because it seems to me, cause I don't think much of Lloyd Austin.
	No!
	I think he's a blowhard.
	And he's got a great voice, though.
	I mean, he's got the voice for the job.
	But that's about it.
	And he just seems like a stooge, a government stooge.
	Dude, remember him with the mask and the face shield and everything?
	Get out of here!
	Get out of here!
	He shows us like we're weak, we're pussies.
	It was horrible.
	Yeah, I forgot about the face and the mask and the rest of it.
	I didn't forget.
	This guy's horrible.
	So he's a horrible person, and the Marine Commandant and the rest of them, and like Mark Miley, they're just yes-men.
	So, I mean, the Marine Commandant, I think, is just so, yeah, yeah, whatever, boss, whatever, whatever, as long as I keep these stars.
	I also believe there is a contingent, upper-level contingent of the Marines who may be running a lot of the military-industrial complex and all kinds of Crap stuff that does not represent the Marines that I know.
	There's something going on.
	Something going on in the upper ranks.
	I think something is going on.
	They're trying to eliminate this part of the service you watch.
	By the Navy and the Air Force.
	Will that be possible?
	No.
	There have been articles written where the actual numbers have been done, and it's over 900 metric tons a day, even with the Marines and The joint force, they can't keep them supplied.
	Let's talk about the overall strategy when it comes to China.
	And defense officials I speak to in the Pacific say they support these changes because they need the Marines and the Army to operate within the first island chain and make Chinese targeting much more complicated since the Chinese are trying to keep the Navy and the Air Force out.
	Doesn't that make sense?
	No.
	It could have been an Ask Alan.
	What's he going to say?
	So I got a kick out of this guy.
	No.
	And he was just adamant about it.
	And I think... Well, no way.
	The guy, in all fairness, he's like, man, why do I have to do the NTD interview?
	No one watches that.
	Maybe some podcaster.
	That's about it.
	So he was annoyed that he had to do this interview.
	He's on PBS.
	Just as bad.
	What are you talking about?
	That's actually interesting.
	On PBS, he would just give those short answers.
	No.
	He was forced to do this.
	He does elucidate, so here we go with this.
	I think it's clip four.
	Doesn't that make sense?
	No.
	The Marine Corps, in their initial documents, said this would be a low observable unit.
	I've looked at all the equipment.
	There's not one item of equipment that has any stealth or low observable capabilities.
	Now the Marine Corps is saying, What we will do, we will tell people where those units are as a deterrent to the Chinese.
	Which is it going to be?
	It's going to be low observable, but there's no indication.
	None of the equipment in that unit has stealth-like capabilities.
	The Chinese are going to target these right at the outset and take them out.
	Marine leaders say they do acknowledge some of the concerns that you're raising, but that if the Marines are going to play a major part in what the Defense Department calls the pacing challenge, China, they'll have to make bold changes and that they're working to solve some of the vulnerabilities.
	What's your response to that?
	The mistake is divesting yourself of current capabilities.
	And as you know, the Marines have gotten rid of a All their tanks in the process of getting rid of cannon artillery, cutting squadrons.
	Why would you cut these things before you have the capability they claim they will have in the future?
	So we're going to have a vulnerability gap here of anywhere from eight to 10 years for an unproven capability.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	You have a fifth one, a long one.
	Yeah.
	The last one, he kind of wraps things up.
	But what he's saying is that they want to essentially disarm the Marines and then rearm them with all this fancy missiles and make them a missile operation.
	Cool shit.
	But they don't have any, but there's nothing in between.
	It's going to take 10 years to do that.
	And they're going to be weaponless in the meantime, for all practical purposes.
	This is ludicrous.
	Well, certainly since everything is being sent to Ukraine.
	Well, he mentions that in his last clip.
	A senior defense official told me that the items that you're talking about... Why doesn't he just say who it was?
	Senior defense official.
	When you're talking to this guy, PBS, why don't they just say it?
	Is that crap journalism?
	Am I just too critical?
	I think this is a legitimate complaint.
	A senior defense official told me that the items that you're talking about that have been cut are more relevant to invading Afghanistan rather than taking on China, which again, the Defense Department identifies as the future threat.
	All I can say is look at Ukraine.
	What do we need in Ukraine?
	They're crying for artillery.
	They're looking for armor, tanks.
	They want fixed-wing close support aircraft.
	They want helicopters.
	Those are the kind of things the Marine Corps has cut or is well on the way to cutting.
	The Marine Corps in the Western Pacific will be a missile force.
	It'll have no infantry maneuver units on the ground.
	What people think of the Marine Corps will not exist.
	They're rapidly cutting it.
	So instead of being a force that's able to deployed worldwide for contingencies is going to be sitting on islands in the defense.
	It's an untested concept, but we're making, we're actually making the structure cuts and cutting the weapons before we have this capability that I don't think will even, even exist.
	Was there a way for the Marines to become more relevant to the fight in the Pacific without losing that global response capacity?
	What the Marine Corps has always done is been, it's been a global response force.
	It's been able to respond globally because it was aboard amphibious ships.
	It had air alert forces.
	It was on scene.
	All of those capabilities are being cut for a promise in the future.
	that those of us who are resisting this and arguing against it don't think will ever come to fruition.
	So first of all, I can get you an appointment with Dr. Zak for that shibboleth.
	We should work on that.
	Second, I think if I now put this all together, What they're doing here is moving these guys out of the way, but his complaint is, I think it's not just the Marines, no one has any new gear.
	Yeah, we know it's all going in there and all the money is going into the manufacturers, but we really don't have anything yet.
	And this is good because this brings me right to a couple of Russia things that I have.
	And a junior defense official told me that there's a lot of Reports of tuberculosis in Ukraine amongst the Ukrainian soldiers, which was very predictable.
	And if they get a full-on TB outbreak, not very good.
	Second, from the same junior defense official, I am informed that President Zelensky
	of Ukraine, is offering anyone who wants to fight, and I know that there's a lot of mercs in Ukraine, mercenaries, US mercenaries, hired soldiers, should not be a surprise to anybody, a lot of them go just, they'll fight anywhere for money, that anyone who fights for the Ukrainian cause is offered a Ukrainian passport, and you can put any name on it you want,
	So there are terrorists, there are criminals, apparently even some Antifa, like real hardcore Antifa, are all getting these Ukrainian passports and they are flooding into Europe!
	So that's what the officials say.
	Now let's turn to Germany.
	Germany is under the loop and there's something going on.
	Germany is a problem.
	And heads are rolling as we are now all asked to send our tanks, our Bradley fighting vehicles, anything we got, send it to Ukraine!
	The United Kingdom has now confirmed it will send Challenger 2 tanks to Ukraine.
	These will be the first advanced tanks given to Ukraine by its allies since the war began.
	Kyiv has been pleading for more modern weaponry for months.
	And hopes the British decision will put greater pressure on Germany to allow the delivery of its own leopard tax.
	So the Leopard tanks, this is also very, and we'll talk about both, the Bradley fighting vehicles and the Leopard tanks in a moment.
	This is a point of contention amongst the Germans in their parliament.
	Mr. Stigner, we've got an ongoing debate whether or not Western allies should supply Ukraine with Western-built battle tanks such as the Leopard.
	What's your stance?
	Well, I think we have a debate that is only focused on new weapons, which was, I think, a wrong idea.
	We just decided to send armed vehicles to the Ukraine, and in the moment that was decided, the next Questions were raised whether we shouldn't send Western tanks and what's the next?
	Western airplanes and someday we talk about Western troops.
	I don't know.
	So I don't think that this is the right thing to do.
	Oh, please don't try to be sensical, you moron.
	You can't have that.
	The problem is all of Germany's materiel is crap.
	It hasn't been maintained.
	Half of it is just broken.
	And this week, if it hasn't been announced already, the German defense minister will resign her position.
	Here in Germany, media reports suggest the defense minister is planning to resign.
	Christine Lambrecht has come under scrutiny for a number of blunders most recently.
	Ask John, what kind of mistakes do you think she made that would force her to resign?
	I don't know.
	What kind of mistake could she make?
	An unofficial New Year's message that critics found distasteful.
	She also allowed her son to fly with her on official business in a government helicopter.
	So what has she been like as... Distasteful tweets?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Listen to the reporter who's coming to tell you what the problem really is.
	Government helicopter.
	So what has she been like as a defense minister?
	What are some of these blunders that have taken place?
	On a smaller scale, these blunders have been, you know, she showed up at a military training site and she was wearing high heels, so she just looked out of step, out of touch with her surroundings.
	And she, you know, then it also turned out that she had a nail appointment during official working hours.
	This is an outrage!
	She has to resign!
	It's like small things where you think, are you not taking your job seriously?
	And the problem with that is obviously the context, right?
	We're dealing with the war in Ukraine.
	The German reputation already appears, you know, to be very hesitant when it comes to arms deliveries.
	When you look at the state of the German army, it doesn't look very good.
	You know, we recently had a training exercise with Pumas that were meant to be sent to the NATO eastern flank.
	They all failed.
	So, you know, we're already in the middle of a difficult time for the German government, where it is under pressure for its attitude and for its behavior in this whole conflict.
	And then you have a defense minister who appears not fit for the job.
	No kidding!
	None of these people are fit for the job.
	There was never supposed to be even a European army or German army.
	So yeah, they put some woke person in there, just like Lloyd Austin, and now their stuff doesn't work.
	Now, the suggestion here in the United States is we need to send Bradley Fighting Vehicles, BFVs.
	Um, the BFVs, Bradley Fighting Vehicles, are the so-called tank busters and they have, um, these tank missiles on top, uh, which is actually turns out to be not so great because if you target one of these vehicles and you hit it right on top, then pretty much everyone inside melts.
	And I have, sorry?
	I believe that there was, I remember when this thing was first being developed and it was controversial at the time.
	I remember, it was some sort of massive waste of development money.
	Am I wrong?
	Do you remember that?
	I have a boots on, yeah.
	No, what would happen is it would blow these things up if it hit it on top where these tank busters are, and the way it's built, it would actually weld the top shut and fry everybody inside.
	I think that was a design flaw.
	We have boots on the ground from an armor officer, Who, of course, shall go unnamed, known to me.
	And I've served as a battalion commander, lieutenant colonel.
	I've operated in and led soldiers in Bradley fighting vehicles and Abrams tanks.
	I've been to combat more than once and I've seen these systems in battle.
	All information I'm sharing is open source.
	My opinions are my own.
	I maintain my position that a secondary objective of U.S.
	involvement in the Russo-Ukraine war is to study the effectiveness of our legacy equipment against the current threat systems.
	There are parallels to this war and the Yom Kippur War, where we study the outcomes of the battles between the Israelis, who were supplied with U.S.
	equipment, and the Arabs, supplied with Soviet equipment.
	This is good.
	This is good analysis here.
	The conclusions of the study of outcomes of the Yom Kippur War and the battle damage of the equipment led to the development and fielding of the U.S.
	Army's Big Five.
	Whatever that is.
	The Bradley Fighting Vehicle is good, but not all that.
	There's been a push in the Army to equip the Bradley Fighting Vehicle and other systems with 30mm cannon versus a 25mm cannon because the Russians outgunned us.
	The Bradley Fighting Vehicle requires crews that are highly trained and that work well together to be effective.
	They have a role on the battlefield as a scout platform or infantry transport fighting vehicle.
	Yes, they can kill tanks, but do not protect crews very well.
	Just said.
	The variant of the Bradley fighting vehicle that will be given to Ukraine has not been specified yet.
	That may make a difference.
	The most modern BFV variant is the M2A3.
	It was the new hotness when I was a lieutenant 21 years ago.
	The OS for the computers is Windows 95.
	My processor's spiking!
	Likely what will get shipped to Europe is the M2A2 from Operation Desert Storm, which is not as advanced.
	It is a viable fighting platform, but only with a trained crew.
	Training a crew to be proficient on this platform takes months.
	If these crews were trained to standard, it will take about six months from when the Ukrainians start training up, when we should see them in combat, given an accelerated timeline.
	The U.S.
	has given the BFV to other partners with limited success.
	I don't believe the hype around the BFV going back to war against an old threat.
	It's counterintuitive to the military-industrial complex argument that Russia outguns us.
	Therefore, we need better stuff.
	Future battles may tell, but perhaps the Pentagon is shorting the BFV.
	I believe that with well-trained crews and robust logistic support, the BFV would likely provide viable.
	So none of this is going to happen, of course.
	There's not going to be enough training.
	There's not going to be enough time to train.
	At all.
	So this is a farce.
	But the farce...
	is taken very seriously by the Ukrainians.
	This is the Ukrainian defense minister on BBC.
	Ukraine's defense minister says his country has become a de facto member of the NATO military alliance as Western nations continue to supply weapons for the war against Russia.
	Speaking to the BBC, Alexei Reznikov said there had been a change among some allies once concerned that the military assistance could be seen as an escalation by Russia.
	Well, our correspondent Hugo Bochega sat down with him.
	We have a lot of modern NATO standard weaponry.
	It means that Ukraine as country and armed forces of Ukraine or our sector of security and defense became the Well, that's a controversial statement.
	not de facto, because we have a weaponry, we have the understanding how to use it.
	We have this interoperability level of the communication with our partners, and I'm sure that in the next future we will become the member of NATO de Europe. - Well, that's a controversial statement.
	You're saying that Ukraine is de facto NATO member. - Why controversial?
	It's true.
	It's a fact.
	I'm a lawyer, you know.
	I'm operating with the facts.
	But the perception has been that any kind of, let's say, tanks being sent to Ukraine would be seen as an escalation by Russia.
	You're not concerned about how Russia could respond?
	I have a war in my country.
	Them's fighting words, I say.
	De facto NATO.
	This is so stupid.
	The Russians must be in the game somehow.
	There's something fishy about the whole... I don't like any of this.
	The mind control is fantastic though because, man, it's a money bonanza.
	Check this out in Sweden.
	Europe has a new gateway to space.
	Today the EU inaugurated its first orbital launch pad on the European mainland.
	It's the latest sign that the space race is heating up here in Europe as well.
	The new EU facility in Arctic Sweden will complement Europe's other spaceport in tropical French Guiana.
	It's designed to launch small satellites which can be used for example to track natural disasters in real time or to monitor active conflicts like the war in Ukraine.
	European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen joined Swedish and EU dignitaries at the ribbon-cutting ceremony today.
	It's a big moment.
	It's a big moment for Europe.
	It's a big moment for Europe's space industry.
	This spaceport offers an independent European gateway to space.
	The current geopolitical situation, not least of course the Russian invasion of Ukraine, has demonstrated how important it is that the European Union has access to space.
	Who are they kidding?
	Do they have engines or do they also get them from Russia?
	The good engines all come from Russia.
	What are you going to do?
	I have two climate change clips, short ones.
	Good, because I got two drought clips.
	You want to hit us with the drought?
	Hit us with the drought.
	We have our drought here in California.
	Here's a drought quickie.
	And despite the amount of rainfall, the drought that has gripped the Western U.S.
	is far from over.
	Yeah.
	Oh, of course.
	So we could have rain for here to eternity and there's going to be a drop because it keeps the prices high.
	But but then what's causing all this?
	Well, it's climate change.
	Of course.
	So one of the issues that has come up about climate change is no longer an existential future threat in California.
	It's here.
	And what we're seeing is drier dry years and wetter wet years.
	So this way you can't attribute this what's happening right now to climate change but it is consistent with what we're seeing and that is these atmospheric rivers getting juiced up by the warm air out in the Pacific because they're just holding more water as they come in.
	And so this is what all our predictions are like.
	This is what the future probably looks like and in fact I would argue the future is here.
	It's here now.
	Did you listen to what he said?
	First he says it's climate change, and then he says you can't attribute it to climate change.
	No, you can't attribute this wet weather to climate change.
	That's just an anomaly, which actually comes from global warming.
	We all know this.
	You're gonna have no water because of the water that's from global warming.
	You were talking earlier about you know, how news models are often given the control room.
	Hey, okay, you got to say this or ask this question.
	And we had one of those crop up this week.
	This was CNN discussing the very dangerous gas stoves because they are noxious fumes are killing our children and even older people, noxious.
	Noxious fumes from gas stoves, that's why we need to get rid of them.
	Gas stoves could soon get 86th from kitchens across the country going forward.
	The U.S.
	Consumer Product Safety Commissioner is considering a ban on the appliances for new builds.
	It says those appliances can be a source of indoor pollution, sometimes linked to childhood asthma.
	But also the gas, no gas lines in new construction.
	Is that about fossil fuels?
	Or is it about... Sorry, I'm getting in trouble.
	No, that's a short answer.
	It's about climate change.
	I will now do the part of the control room.
	No gas lines and new construction.
	Is that about fossil fuels?
	Or is it about... Shut up!
	Toss it to Bill!
	I'm getting in trouble.
	No, that's the short answer.
	It's about climate change.
	Because methane is 80 times more powerful than CO2 when it comes to heating up the planet.
	So big time.
	But in small spaces, it's personal health.
	Excellent.
	Well saved, Bill.
	Good work.
	Hey, your control room, I want to change things up.
	You don't like it?
	You don't like my control room?
	I like the older control room.
	Okay, Bill, we'll work on this later.
	Yeah, that one.
	That's more believable.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Move on with the show.
	Yes, I shall move on with the show.
	Good job, Adam.
	We have a shill, or not.
	No Agenda Show listeners know exactly what's up when you hear about the new What is his title?
	Chief, new leader of the COP28 climate talks.
	So this, we just had COP27.
	With the new Greta and all that stuff.
	Now, COP 28.
	We're going to discuss again how we're going to pay for it.
	Who's going to... How America's going to... Who's going to get soaked.
	Who's going to get soaked.
	But now, whoa!
	Climate change campaigners have expressed outrage at the appointment of the head of one of the world's biggest oil companies as president of this year's UN Climate Summit in the United Arab Emirates.
	Sultan Ahmed Al-Jubeir, who heads Abu Dhabi's national oil company, is the nation's climate envoy.
	His office said he would play a central role in building consensus at the COP28 conference.
	The move comes amid controversy over the prominence of fossil fuel interests at climate talks.
	The recent COP27 gathering in Egypt was described by some attendees as a glorified fossil fuel trade show.
	I haven't ever thought why this guy is going to be the lead.
	Well, first of all, before you have your thought, I never heard that it was a glorified trade show for the fossil fuel industry.
	Amy was there.
	She never mentioned that.
	It's only this guy.
	Now that this guy is going to be the new guy for the 28th. 28!
	I know.
	Has it been 28 years?
	It's not 28.
	Isn't it every other year?
	It's not every year, is it?
	No.
	It's been 60 years!
	I think this guy is the guy because it's going to be green hydrogen.
	Oh, maybe.
	That could be.
	You might be right.
	And this is the switcheroo.
	I mean, someone pointed out to me, although I think we knew it, that the Inflation Reduction Act includes money for green hydrogen, clean hydrogen, You know, we need to invest now so that in 10 years we'll have green hydrogen.
	Frans Timmermans, the European Union green deal guy.
	Clean hydrogen.
	Now, of course, to get to green clean hydrogen, you have to go through brown and blue and purple hydrogen, which is not made with wind power or whatever else they think they're going to make it with.
	So I think the whole thing is coming full circle.
	They're scamming.
	There's now that they're scamming everybody to take you away from batteries.
	And I think there's a we're going to see more or hear more of these reports.
	We have an important consumer alert tonight for people who own Bissell cordless vacuums.
	More than 60,000 multi-service wet dry vacuums have been recalled.
	A government watchdog group says some models can overheat and even catch fire.
	At least one person was burned.
	Contact Bissell for a free replacement battery pack.
	Now do you think that they bought that airtime?
	Or was that truly a consumer alert?
	Byssal wouldn't be buying it.
	That's not the kind of thing.
	You can buy airtime for different things, but you're not going to do it for some negative story.
	It seems to me, but that negative story is interesting in and of itself because they are starting to target batteries.
	Batteries, yeah.
	And they're targeting, and Tesla's being targeted too.
	There's no doubt about it.
	I mean, they were given a free pass for a long time.
	Now they're being targeted.
	I know locally we've had a number of stories about there was a crash in the tunnel that goes across the bay, the Yerba Buena Tunnel.
	And they have pictures of it.
	They're showing movies.
	I've never seen this before, because they might be able to do this everywhere, but they have a camera shot of a Tesla in the fast lane, going across the bridge, hitting the tunnel, and then stopping dead.
	And then just stopping dead, and then bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
	About six cars, including one that got jammed up into the side.
	It came kind of flying, almost flipped over.
	And then they did a whole feature on what happened.
	Wow.
	Dynamite.
	Good stuff.
	I think Elon may have just bitten off too much that he couldn't chew it, you know?
	I think he may have been more alone in this, in his insanity and incessant desire to build x.com because PayPal isn't what I wanted it to be!
	Has to be x.com.
	No, we're talking about the Twitter coin.
	You're gonna pay with a Twitter coin on Twitter.
	Maybe I was wrong.
	Maybe he's really just freewheeling this.
	Because it's not... I mean, Twitter is... I always predicted it will destroy Twitter.
	I think that is really happening.
	I mean, Jeff Jarvis is on Mastodon.
	That's gotta be the canary in the coal mine.
	Or not.
	I can...
	I have only one last clip just to remind everybody the way I started out.
	They want to kill us.
	They want to kill us all.
	They want to kill us with their climate change.
	They want to kill us with their crap food that isn't food.
	Where the... What was it?
	What cereal was better than beef?
	I forgot what it was.
	It wasn't Cheerios.
	It was...
	Fruit Loops?
	I think Fruit Loops.
	Fruit Loops is a classic.
	It's on the recommended list, I think.
	Fruit Loops.
	The recommended number of artificial dyes.
	So I have one more classic from Paul Ehrlich, the guy who is still an advisor to the White House today on climate change.
	But this one is where he shows his true colors.
	Even though he's a population growth expert, but now he's a climate change expert, too.
	Is that what you're telling me?
	I'd like to return to his true self when he was a population expert in the 1970s, and I'd like you to hear his recommendations for curtailing the population.
	And then just think about these people walking around right now and how they want most of us dead.
	Given the population explosion, let alone in this country, what can the government, what ought the government to do about this?
	Well, what it ought to do is this.
	The first thing you want, you don't want to put, I'm against government interference in our lives.
	You want to minimize that.
	So the very first thing the government should do is try and take the pressure off to reproduce.
	There's a lot of pressure in our society now to reproduce.
	If you're single, People try and push you into getting married.
	You know, your wife, you have a bachelor over and your wife says, gee, shouldn't I have a nice girl over?
	The idea is, you know, nobody should escape.
	So there's pressure to get married.
	Young couples, if they don't have children, people say, gee, they must be sterile.
	They never say, gee, maybe they like good wine and going to the theater and so on.
	They prefer that to scraping diapers.
	So there's pressure to have children.
	So the first thing that should happen is that the President ought to say, from now, here on out, no intelligent, patriotic American family ought to have more than two children, preferably one, if you're starting a family now.
	Not any law, but just say, this is what responsible people do.
	You ought to make the FCC see to it that large families are always treated in a negative light on television wherever they appear.
	There ought to be a tremendous amount of television time devoted to spot commercials.
	That's what we've had against smoking.
	But the ones in the middle, say in the middle of Beverly Hillbillies, you get a scene which shows Los Angeles in a smog and it just says this city has a fatal disease.
	It's called overpopulation.
	So long.
	Now, that sort of campaign, you could have a census, a sample census, which would see whether that was having a desired effect.
	If that didn't, you could move to giving women bonuses for not having babies.
	That almost certainly would do the job.
	If that didn't have the effect, then you could move to changing the tax structure so that people who had the money and had the children paid for the children.
	In other words, you would increase taxes on people with children rather than decrease them, since when they have the children they require more services.
	If that doesn't work, then you'll have the government legislating the size of the family.
	And people say, oh, that's impossible.
	Government can never intrude and tell you how many children to have.
	Well, I got news.
	You know, it intruded a long time ago and told you how many wives you can have.
	And there's not the slightest question that if we don't get the population under control with voluntary means, that in the not-too-distant future, the government will simply tell you how many children you can have and throw you in jail if you have too many.
	This is the thinking.
	And it's the same thing behind climate change, behind the Froot Loops.
	They want you dead.
	They don't want you to reproduce.
	They need less of you.
	And, of course, they hit upon the genius idea of convincing everybody they needed to be the opposite sex to sterilize themselves.
	It is so good.
	Paul Ehrlich should go home.
	That's a, yeah.
	Well, the self-sterilization, deciding on changing your sex and sterilizing yourself in the process is definitely part of some sort of screwball movement.
	Don't like it?
	No, of course not.
	But that's why we break it down and deconstruct it.
	As best we can.
	Erlich, go home!
	Okay, we have end-of-show mixes from Tom Starkweather.
	We got Rolando Gonzalez.
	We got Matty J. And one more.
	Sir Michael Anthony.
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	Ladies and gentlemen.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	You know, for us, Ukraine, losing this war is simply not an option because it's also about our way of life and our freedoms.
	Ladies and gentlemen.
	The training of about 100 Ukrainian soldiers will begin as early as next week at Fort Sill, Oklahoma.
	Ladies and gentlemen.
	With that, I'm pleased to yield to the distinguished President of Ukraine, the courageous, determined, unified President of Ukraine, President Zelensky.
	Ladies and gentlemen.
	Supporting Ukraine fully and completely is in the best interest of the United States.
	I'm trying to make a statistical point, okay?
	Ladies and gentlemen, we are willing to stick to Ukraine and that we are willing to do whatever it takes and as long as it takes.
	But the Ukrainians need more than that.
	Ladies and gentlemen.
	I think really giving Ukraine these capabilities, I think, can be a deterrent.
	For example, long-range fires.
	That calculus has clearly changed.
	Ladies and gentlemen.
	Giving in to Putin's aggression is absolutely the wrong answer to this challenge.
	Not a joke.
	Ladies and gentlemen.
	Eggs, eggs, eggs.
	There's nothing embarrassing about a hen laying an egg, and you'd better lay one or it's your neck!
	I, uh, give them the old needle once in a while.
	I love eggs!
	Egg prices are continuing to soar.
	The cost of eggs has been soaring across the country.
	High cost of eggs.
	So what's behind eggflation?
	Pathogenesis.
	Adenine influenza.
	More commonly known as bird flu.
	The worst bird flu outbreak in years that has just swept through the country.
	Tens of millions of birds have died or been slaughtered.
	Bird flu has reduced the egg-laying hen population by more than 40 million.
	40 million.
	That's astounding to think about that.
	Looks like eggs are the new toilet paper.
	It's egg-streamly bad news.
	You might want to consider alternatives.
	This is an egg replacement item.
	These chickens that were laying eggs, those are mature hens, right?
	So we don't get a mature hen overnight.
	It takes some time for a chick who hatches out of an egg to be ready.
	It could be lasting us into the summer.
	Can I offer you a nice egg in this trying time?
	Yeah, he's got an egg, you might decide!

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