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	Hey!
	get off the tracks.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, January 19th, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1522.
	This is No Agenda.
	Deconstructing Davos and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas school country here in FEMA Region 6.
	6.
	In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where we've got the King Tide!
	King Tide!
	I'm Genesee Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
	Wait a minute, the king tide, is that where dead fish roll up on the beach, or what is the king tide again?
	King tide is when everything's lined up, the moon, the sun, everything in between.
	Raise the tide seven feet.
	Oh, we're all gonna die!
	Well, it happens, I don't know, rarely.
	Wait, the tide rises seven feet?
	Yeah, that's what that would do, yeah.
	That's pretty high, isn't it?
	Well, I'm looking at the mudflats.
	Yes, as one does, yes.
	And the mudflats are filled with water.
	Okay, so it's high tide.
	It's super high, but it's super high tide.
	King tide, king tide.
	It's called king tide, look it up.
	So do we have that here, or is it only where you are?
	It's everywhere.
	It's a worldwide phenomenon.
	No wonder they're doing all this climate change stuff in Davos.
	Perfect time to do it.
	King Tide is where you want to do it.
	I have been enjoying Davos coverage so much.
	Oh, good, because I haven't.
	You haven't?
	You haven't been enjoying it or you haven't been looking at it?
	I don't care about double.
	Oh, it's genius.
	There's so much goodness happening.
	I mean, it is really lovely.
	Well, I'm sure you have a report for us and I'm sure that there's some clips that are dynamite.
	Yeah, but before we even go there, we have sad news to share for the show.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah.
	We're losing one of our favorite subjects.
	Who?
	Jacinda!
	And a surprise announcement this morning from New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.
	She's stepping down.
	She became a global icon but her popularity took a turn last year due to COVID restrictions and inflation.
	She was the world's youngest female leader in 2017 at age 37 and gave birth while in office.
	But she says now it's time for someone new.
	But I'm not leaving because it was hard.
	Had that been the case, I probably would have departed two months into the job.
	I know what this job takes.
	And I know that I no longer have enough in the tank to do it justice.
	She's got one more month on the job.
	She doesn't have enough in the tank.
	I don't even know what that means.
	I don't have enough in the tank to do the job.
	But what is so unfortunate is they didn't play her choking up.
	This is a piece of the original audio.
	But also one of the more challenging.
	You cannot and should not do it unless you have a full tank.
	Plus a bit in reserve for those unexpected challenges.
	This summer I had hoped to find a way to prepare not just for another year, but another term.
	Because that is what this year requires.
	I have not been able to do that.
	And so today I'm announcing that I will not be seeking re-election.
	in the future.
	And that my term as Prime Minister will conclude no later than the 7th of February.
	Aw man, she had quivering lip and everything.
	I wonder.
	So that was the report?
	They don't give the real reason she quit?
	Her tank is empty.
	It doesn't have enough in the tank.
	That's the report.
	She said it herself.
	You need a full tank.
	And I don't have enough in my tank.
	Well, I wish I could get the recording of this, but what really happened... Oh, we know what happened.
	She had a hot mic incident, right?
	She had a hot mic incident where she cussed with the foulest mouth imaginable.
	She said, she said, prick.
	That's all.
	I think that's all she said was... I think she said fuck a couple of times.
	I thought it was only a prick.
	But even calling him a prick, the problem was she made a big point of kindness.
	She was the kind Prime Minister and she was going to be kind and kind was the watchword and so then she goes off after this guy in a hot mic and gets behind the scenes.
	The opposition leader.
	The opposition leader.
	And I suppose that... So you have to resign over that?
	They were going to hound her about it and she couldn't handle it.
	I think seeing her moves before this, well, I think she's got something pretty cushy lined up.
	I'm sure she does.
	I'm thinking she's got a think tank or, you know, she'll definitely, I wonder if she'll, no, she won't go out to World Economic Forum.
	I don't think she's out there, but she'll have something lined up.
	She'll have something lined up.
	Can you hear?
	Thursday, third, Thursday.
	Can you hear it?
	My TH is fixed.
	Yeah, okay.
	It was fine before, by the way.
	It was not fine before.
	Okay, thanks for being happy for me.
	I also mentioned this to Horowitz brought this up.
	And I said, because Horowitz got sick.
	Yeah, he's got COVID again.
	COVID again.
	He texted me yesterday.
	I hate to laugh about it.
	COVID again!
	But now he has fever, he has chills.
	He is in bad shape.
	It's not good, no.
	He did the show though.
	Yeah, I heard.
	And I thought he did a good job of covering up his sickness and he was up-tempo enough.
	And we talked about you because you're the master of sounding good no matter how you feel.
	And I made the comment that if Curry had no teeth, He could still pull it off.
	That's what she said.
	Well, thanks.
	Mine personally isn't that loose.
	But, uh... Alright, alright.
	I was just happy... Never mind.
	I'm glad you're happy for something that no one notices.
	It's like when I hear a buzz.
	If I hear a buzz somewhere in the audio chain, no one hears it, but I hear it and it's distracting.
	Back to Davos.
	It was really fantastic.
	Everybody came out.
	Everybody got a shot somewhere, got a chance to say something.
	Let me see, up first we had, of course, Zelensky's wife.
	Because, you know, Vladimir had the video conference in to plea for more weaponry.
	But no, she gets to go.
	Top of the bill, by the way.
	Right off the bat.
	Here she is, the first lady of Ukraine.
	You're all united by the fact that you are really very influential.
	But there's also something that separates you.
	And that is that not all of you are using this influence.
	Or sometimes you use it in a way that divides even more.
	When we talk about energy security, we mean that no child in the world should have to do their homework by candlelight like children in Ukraine are doing.
	That no doctor would have to perform surgeries in the light of flashlights as recently in Kiev and Lviv.
	At some point, we have to pronounce an end to this war.
	It's so that our people can return home, who are scattered around the world right now, so that our fathers, our mothers, sons and daughters can return from the front line.
	Very, very passionate plea, of course.
	Everybody responded very well to this.
	But the real theme this year is climate change and we're all going to die.
	John Kerry, Watermelon Head, is back on the scene.
	Typically, we don't play clips from John Kerry.
	This is a short one, but it really gets to the heart of who John Kerry is.
	And when you start to think about it, it's pretty extraordinary.
	That we, a select group of human beings, because of whatever touched us at some point in our lives, are able to sit in a room and come together and actually talk about saving the planet.
	I mean, it's so almost extraterrestrial to think about, quote, saving the planet.
	And if you said that to most people, most people, they think you're just a crazy tree-hugging, lefty, liberal, you know, do-gooder or whatever.
	And there's no relationship.
	But really, that's where we are.
	He's part of the select few who were touched.
	Touched early on.
	Yeah, touched.
	I think that's a good word for it.
	Touched.
	Yes, we were touched.
	And it is us.
	We are the chosen ones to do this.
	The chosen ones.
	Um, big keynote, opening keynote by, oh, by the way, you know, there was a, there was rumors just before everything started that, uh, um, uh, George Soros and Klaus Schwab would not be appearing this year because of, uh, health concerns or something.
	And it was all over Twitter.
	It went like fire.
	Literally five minutes later, Klaus Schwab is on stage.
	It was, it was phenomenal.
	Well done, Twitter.
	Good to go.
	So we had the main keynote from our girl, Queen Ursula, and she made it very clear about what the agenda is.
	She's actually quite pissed.
	And this was really part of the whole discussion as well, is that it seems like America, and even China, are screwing with her, her, her Green Deal.
	And she does not like it.
	We Europeans have a plan.
	A Green Deal Industrial Plan.
	Our plan?
	To make Europe the home of clean tech and industrial innovation on the road to net zero.
	Our Green Deal Industrial Plan will be covering four different pillars.
	The regulatory environment, financing, skills, and trade.
	The first pillar is about speed and access.
	We need to create a regulatory environment that allows us to scale up fast and to create conducive conditions for sectors crucial to reach the net zero goal that we've set ourselves.
	This includes, for example, wind, heat pumps, solar, clean hydrogen, storage, and other topics.
	For which demand is boosted... What'd she say?
	...by our next gen... She... Oh, so these are the four pillars.
	And when it comes to climate change... ...net zero goal that we've set ourselves.
	This includes, for example, wind, heat pumps... Heat pumps again!
	Heat pumps.
	I told you!
	Heat pumps!
	This is heat pumps thing, geez.
	Heat pumps, because you can't have your heat created by gas.
	It has to be electricity.
	So you reverse the refrigeration process, you get your heat pump.
	It's the second thing she mentioned, so it's going to be big.
	I'm very bullish on heat pumps.
	Now back to her anger about the USA.
	We're not really playing fair.
	The United States are our friends and our partners, very clear.
	And it's very good that we are all now investing heavily in the green transition.
	Important is, if we look at green tech, the tech industry, that we have a level playing field.
	I think we should compete on content, on quality, but not on subsidies.
	And if such subsidies are necessary to boost the development of the clean tech industry, then we should do it as a joint effort, which we are just working on as European Union with our American friends.
	And so does that leave China as the main competitor in this area?
	Indeed, we want to work with China on fighting climate change, but It needs to be a work where fairness and a level playing field is provided.
	And we see that China is massively subsidizing, in a hidden way, its industries, while it is not giving access to the market to European companies.
	And that can't be, that is not acceptable.
	So, competition is good, trade is good, but it has to be fair and a level playing field.
	The Europeans are really angry because the Inflation Reduction Act put a whole bunch of subsidies for really American manufacturers.
	Even the car subsidies, they don't apply to anything built in Europe.
	It has to have American parts and so they're all bent out of shape that we, just like China, are subsidizing this phony baloney deal and they don't want to do that.
	We don't want to subsidize everything?
	So that's one of the main themes.
	People are a little bit angry about us.
	Us being the United States.
	I know.
	But luckily they still have, you know, the true diehards out there.
	The climate change guys, the researchers.
	This is a great guy.
	His name is Johan Rockström.
	And he's wearing a North Face, you know, like red polar outfit.
	Like he's ready to go off and save some polar bears himself.
	And he had such a cool word salad.
	I think this is a Deutsche Welle.
	Jörn, in the global risk report of the World Economic Forum, climate risk is on top of the agenda.
	How bad is the situation?
	How bad is the situation?
	The situation is really worrying.
	We are at 1.2°C warming already today.
	This is the warmest temperature since we left the last ice age.
	And within the next 10 years we may reach 1.5°C.
	And scientifically we today show clearly that's a physical limit.
	Go beyond it and we risk triggering many tipping points.
	Many tipping points!
	Not just one, many tipping points.
	How many tipping points do you need?
	Many!
	You need many, otherwise nothing happens.
	Clearly, that's a physical limit.
	Go beyond it, and we risk triggering many tipping points.
	What's this clearly business?
	What's this clearly?
	And within the next 10 years, we may reach 1.5 degrees Celsius.
	And scientifically, we today show clearly, that's a physical limit.
	Go beyond it, and we risk triggering many tipping points.
	The Greenland Ice Sheet, the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, that represents 10 meters sea level rise.
	But also abrupt thawing of permafrost, which will amplify warming even more, so the risks are real.
	But what I find really significant in this year's World Economic Forum's Global Risk Report is that in the top five, it's climate change, it's geopolitical instability, it's the food system crisis, and it's risks to the global economy due to inflation.
	Which just shows that we're intermeshed in a global crisis situation where climate change is at the core because climate impacts on food, climate impacts on energy, climate impacts on stability in societies.
	So it's really a kind of a complex of many interactive crises at the same time.
	One world government!
	We got a poly-crisis going on!
	There's another one.
	Poly-crisis.
	So when you have a poly-crisis and you've got a whole bunch of douchebags sitting together, you've got to... You know what?
	That has something to do with poly.
	Nah, Pauly isn't multi.
	Not Pauly, not Pauly the, the YouTuber.
	Pauly isn't multi.
	What happened to Pauly?
	I don't know, he stopped watching.
	So when there's a lot of nut jobs around, you gotta bring in the top nut job.
	Al Gore.
	Al Gore resurging at Davos 2023.
	And just in top form.
	And he's heavier than ever.
	And just to put the science in a slightly different context... Science!
	People are familiar with that thin blue line that the astronauts bring back in their pictures from space.
	That's the part of the atmosphere that has oxygen.
	The troposphere.
	Is that where the oxygen is?
	In that thin blue line?
	It's not all around us?
	It's only in the line.
	And he laughed when he said this bullcrap thing, too.
	That's the part of the atmosphere that has oxygen, the troposphere, and it's only five to seven kilometers thick!
	No!
	That's what we're using as an open sewer!
	If you could drive a car straight up in the air at interstate highway speeds, you'd get to the top of that blue line in five minutes.
	Stop shitting on the thin blue line!
	And all the greenhouse gas pollution would be below you.
	We're still putting 162 million tons into it every single day.
	And the accumulated amount is now trapping as much extra heat as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the Earth.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Did he increase that number?
	I don't know.
	You have to find one of the old clips.
	He keeps saying this.
	Well, yes, because here he is.
	What did he just say?
	Six thousand?
	Play it back.
	...extra heat as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs.
	600,000.
	600,000.
	Let's go back to 2015.
	As would be released by 400,000 Hiroshima-class... That was 400,000.
	2018.
	And it now traps as much extra heat energy every day as would be released by 500,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs.
	Hiroshima-class.
	It was 400,000.
	2018?
	And it now traps as much extra heat energy every day as would be released by 500,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs.
	Oh, man, it's now 6,000. 600,000.
	Yeah, 600,000.
	Mr. Heat, as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs.
	I can't believe we accelerated so fast.
	So he's going, he's at home thinking the following.
	You know, I've been saying this 400,000 thing.
	No one's paying any attention to it.
	Let me jack it up.
	Well, then he went from $400,000 to $500,000.
	And then no one paid any attention because it's just a stupid thing to say.
	I'll give him this.
	2015, it was $400,000.
	Three years later, it was $500,000.
	Now we're, okay, technically four, but really three years later, it's $600,000.
	Okay.
	Well, I'll give him this.
	2015, it was 400,000.
	Three years later, it was 500,000.
	Now we're, okay, technically four, but really three years later, it's 600,000.
	So at least he's consistent with his increases.
	Well, then it'll go up to 700,000 next time around.
	But it's like a ludicrous analogy itself.
	It's dumb, and so nobody pays any attention to it, and he doesn't get it.
	He doesn't understand why people don't understand that 400, 500 or 600,000 Hiroshima bombs.
	It's still pretty bad with one.
	And the accumulated amount is now trapping as much extra heat as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the earth.
	That's what's boiling the oceans.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, every single day!
	I didn't realize it's every day.
	Every single day!
	Wait, did he say that in 2018?
	I gotta go back and check.
	And it now traps as much extra heat energy every day.
	Yeah, it's every day.
	It was always every day.
	Every day.
	100,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the Earth.
	That's what's boiling the oceans, creating these atmospheric... It's boiling the oceans?
	The ocean's boiling?
	What?
	The ocean is boiling!
	The ocean is boiling?
	I'm looking at the ocean from here.
	And do you see bubbles?
	Do you see bubbles?
	I see no boiling whatsoever.
	In fact, if you got to the San Francisco beach, which is right there on the real ocean, it's freezing cold.
	I'm crying!
	It's boiling, man!
	You don't know what that means.
	That's what's boiling the oceans, creating these atmospheric rivers and the rainbombs.
	The rainbombs!
	Rainbombs!
	Wait a minute!
	What are rainbombs?
	Yeah, there was a rain... They brought the rainbomb up in some, uh... Really?
	Yeah, recently.
	I've not heard of... Isn't it the bomb cyclone?
	Now it's the rainbomb?
	Yeah, bomb cyclone, rainbomb, whatever.
	It's boiling!
	Every single day on the earth.
	That's what's boiling the oceans, creating these atmospheric rivers, and the rain bombs, and sucking the moisture out of the land, and creating the droughts, and melting the ice, and raising the sea level, and causing these waves.
	Climate refugees predicted to reach one... That guy's a cookie, for God's sake.
	He's got no sugar in his body.
	Melting the ice and raising the sea level and causing these waves.
	Is he Alex Jones?
	He's out of control.
	It gets better.
	Climate refugees predicted to reach 1 billion in this century.
	Look at the xenophobia and political authoritarian trends that have come from just a few million refugees.
	What about a billion?
	We would lose our capacity for self-governance on this world.
	We have to act.
	So in answer to your question, I would say we have to have a sense of urgency much greater than we have yet had, and we need to make some changes.
	Ch-ch-changes!
	Wow!
	This guy is... I have another clip, believe it or not.
	Wait, wait, that was an answer to some question?
	Yeah, that's just a general... I don't even know what the... Who cares what the question is?
	The guy is fantastic.
	He does not stop.
	So, now of course the problem, you know, one of the pillars of Davos this year is the financing.
	We're just not spending enough money.
	We need to free up some cash.
	Enough already!
	Enough!
	And I don't want to get sidetracked onto what needs to happen, but we need to scale up climate finance, but we need desperately to scale down anti-climate finance.
	And we are still subsidizing the burning of fossil fuels globally at a rate 42 times larger than the subsidies for the shift toward renewables and EVs, etc.
	We need new leadership at the World Bank.
	We need them to scale up the leverage and vastly increase the amounts that are committed.
	And we need to rein in the anti-climate activities of the fossil industry.
	I think this is the second time we've heard someone say we need new leadership at the World Bank in regard to climate change.
	There's something going on about how this is going to be financed through the World Bank, I think.
	I'm not sure.
	But why would he say that?
	We need new leadership.
	Hmm.
	Sketchy.
	Interesting.
	That's a very interesting catch.
	Yeah.
	Your mic is loose again, by the way.
	Now it has my interest, wondering what the hell's going on at the World Bank.
	Your mic is loose again.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, sorry.
	I'm almost done with this basic report.
	Let me see.
	Did you get Borla, by the way?
	Yes, I did get Borla.
	Good, you got Borla.
	I have a couple of things on Borla.
	You want Borla now?
	No, no, finish what you're doing.
	I'll wind up with Borla.
	What is a part of it?
	I'm going to look up the World Bank.
	So the 15-minute city...
	Which we've been, you know, we've been hearing a lot of this, and in fact we have a couple 15-minute cities.
	One is Oxford, and people are just blowing through the barricades.
	We haven't talked about the 15-minute city on the show.
	Oh, we haven't?
	Okay, well I have... I thought we did talk about the 15... Yes, we talked about it.
	No, I think we've been inundated with clips for the 15-minute city and we never brought it up.
	Okay, well the... I'm sure we've at least brought it up once.
	The 15-minute city idea Is the idea that to combat climate change, you won't need your car because everything you need will be within a 15 minute radius.
	You can drive your car if you want, but you won't need to go very far.
	And now in these 15 minute cities, one is Oxford.
	There's another part of London being scheduled for one.
	The UK seems to be all in.
	They literally have barricades that pop out of them in the middle of the street.
	Like, okay, you can't go past this point with your car because this is our 15-minute city, so you have your grocer, your doctor, you know, your one-hooker.
	I mean, everything you need is within the 15-minute radius.
	What if I don't like this store?
	I want to go to a different store.
	I want to go to Raleigh, Raley's, Riley's, or whatever it is, other than Safeway.
	Well, you won't be able—you're not supposed to drive— I get sick of that because I know that, for example, Lucky's is the only place that carries a certain kind of linguiça sausage, so I want to go there instead, but that's on the other side.
	You are an elite.
	You're Linguini.
	You don't need a sausage.
	No, Linguini.
	Linguisa.
	Yeah, but you want a sausage.
	No.
	Bugs.
	Bugs is what you get.
	Bugs.
	Bugs.
	Here's the... No, this is a clip we did not play from the last show.
	This is...
	A short clip about these barricades that pop up in Oxford as part of this 15-minute city ring.
	In the dead of night, a hooded figure removes a base plate for a bollard, then pours cement into the hole.
	The aim?
	To make it hard to install a new one.
	This footage, obtained exclusively by ITV Meridian, is one of hundreds of incidents of vandalism in Oxford's local traffic neighbourhoods.
	Those removing the barriers often don't even wait for the cover of night.
	Now, new figures show just how much this kind of activity is costing.
	Delivery drivers.
	Some filmed flouting the rules.
	I condone it, but I can understand it because they're not listening to us and that's where the anger's coming in.
	You know, that and people being stuck in traffic.
	There is no democracy in Oxford.
	Wanton vandalism or a form of civil disobedience.
	Right, so people are vandalizing these things that pop up because they don't get it, they don't understand it.
	They say, why are we even doing this?
	This is crazy.
	Of course it's good.
	So here's Swedish politician, what's his name, Bastion Girard, just kind of follows up with the general tenant.
	They are very serious about these 15-minute cities.
	They are, in fact, the future of living properly within your cities.
	It's important for policies really to change the rules of the game, no?
	So that sustainability becomes the easier choice not just for the people but also for the companies, no?
	Changing the way districts work.
	For instance, in Zurich we have a lot of districts where you actually don't need a car.
	Because all the activities, school, buying something, everything you can do in walking distance.
	And by doing that, people don't buy a car.
	And it's not felt like actually they would like to have a car and they're not allowed to have it.
	But they simply don't need it.
	Because the environment was built in a way that they don't need it.
	And I think this is what the policy needs to do.
	They have to change the environment.
	So a sustainable lifestyle, a lifestyle in harmony with nature is the easiest way to go.
	Yep, it's the easiest way to go.
	It makes total sense.
	So yes, the Pfizer team was out, lots of big pharma, of course you'd expect it, big finance, big pharma, big education, a lot of American politicians, cinema and mansion.
	Why does the senator from Massachusetts or the senator from West Virginia need to be at Davos?
	I mean, seeing.
	Yeah, there's that.
	And of course, Albert Bula was indeed the, you know, the chairman of Pfizer or the CEO of Pfizer.
	He was there and he's very excited because, you know, they have the new flu.
	Flu vaccine is ready.
	Good to go.
	Where are you in developing?
	Because I know, I think that's what you originally do in biotech.
	You're developing mRNA for flu.
	Where are you on a flu vaccine based on mRNA?
	Oh, the studies are running.
	They have completely recruited.
	We are waiting for cases as they accumulate.
	It means that people have been vaccinated.
	We're just waiting for cases!
	We've been vaccinated!
	We need to wait, let's see for the data!
	Well, that's what I was going to ask.
	I mean, you can't guarantee a timeline, depending on the clinical trials.
	No, because... What's your best guess?
	What would you think?
	I think by the first half of the year, maybe.
	First half of the year?
	Yeah, June, July.
	Wow.
	And so, how far are we away from one vaccine that's both COVID and flu together?
	First we need to have a flu.
	And if we have a flu, already we started experiments to combine the two.
	So that we don't lose time again.
	I think we'll come more or less all together if it is successful.
	Alright, so it's all successful, it's all working, it's all beautiful.
	Now, what is odd this year?
	Maybe not odd, but it is odd.
	If you're a guy like Bourla and you're walking around the streets of Davos, Don't, or even Schwab, don't you think you would have, like, some, a bodyguard?
	Aren't these guys really important and top-notch and, you know, they have to be protected at all times?
	Don't they expect to be hounded on the streets?
	In Switzerland?
	Yeah!
	Well, because... Alright, so it's almost like these news people go on podcasts and they say way too much.
	The elites, they're walking around Davos thinking, I'm safe, I'm here with all my friends, I'm protected.
	Except, people are walking around like Rebel News from Canada.
	Oh yeah.
	And you tell me when you don't want to hear it.
	So, they literally have three cameras One on the side, one behind, and one in front.
	They got two guys with mics.
	Just hounding the guy.
	He doesn't answer anything.
	You can kind of hear the PR lady struggling.
	And this goes on for six minutes.
	Mr Borlaug, can I ask you, when did you know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission?
	How long did you know that without saying it publicly?
	Thank you very much.
	Why won't you answer that question?
	I mean, we now know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission, but why did you keep it secret?
	You said it was 100% effective, then 90%, then 80%, then 70%.
	But we now know that the vaccines do not stop transmission.
	Why did you keep that secret?
	Have a nice day.
	I won't have a nice day until I know the answer.
	Why did you keep it a secret that your vaccine did not stop transmission?
	Is it time to apologize to the world, sir?
	To give refunds back to the countries that poured all their money into your vaccine that doesn't work?
	This is almost like a stuttering John bit.
	You know, ask all these horrible questions and the guy, you won't say anything, but they just keep hounding him.
	I don't know if I have to keep playing it, but I like the idea of double-teaming the guy.
	So you have two guys with a mic, and one guy's asking one kind of question, and another guy asks another kind of question, even though it's the same news organization.
	It's pretty funny.
	I've never seen that before.
	It's a pretty good idea.
	I'm going to play a few more seconds, and then there's another great gambit which I discovered.
	Are you not ashamed of what you've done in the last couple of years?
	Do you have any apologies to the public, sir?
	Are you proud of it?
	You've made millions on the backs of people's entire livelihoods.
	How does that feel, to walk the streets as a millionaire on the backs of the regular person at home in Australia, in England, in Canada?
	What do you think about on your yacht, sir?
	What do you think about on your private jet?
	So that's one way of doing it.
	Another way, which is really, really smart, is you get a Japanese girl, and you get her to ask the horrible questions.
	This time, she's hounding Schwab.
	Now, I don't know, man, if Schwab truly is the evil genius at the top of the pyramid, and all the, I'm going to play this whole clip, it's about a minute 15, and all you have is a PR lady and a driver Then you're really ignorant, or you're just not that important.
	But this is a good way to do it, because she gets his attention, but she screws up at a certain point by saying she's an independent journalist.
	Otherwise, she would have gotten him to talk.
	Tammy Schwab.
	Tammy Schwab.
	I'm from Japan.
	May I ask you for a comment?
	No, we're on our way to the next thing.
	We're a bit late.
	Thank you.
	I think we're going to rush.
	Thank you very much.
	Which media are you with?
	I am an independent journalist from Japan.
	Yeah, I know.
	Thank you very much.
	I have to ask.
	I love it.
	I'm independent.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, thank you.
	Thanks.
	Thank you.
	Try again.
	But I don't want to ask.
	Just one more question.
	Thank you.
	Take care of yourself.
	Bye.
	I can just walk and ask you something.
	No, we're not.
	No, sorry.
	Oh my gosh, we've got so many things tonight.
	Thank you.
	I know.
	I mean, she could have been wielding a weapon, anything.
	The guy's completely unprotected.
	And it was a good way to get him to talk, but she messed up.
	She said, ah, yes, I'm with Tokyo, uh, leading independent news.
	Or anything.
	He said anything, yeah.
	Anything other than, oh, I'm independent.
	He went, ha, ha, ha, ha, I don't talk to you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, thanks.
	By the way, I did a little work on the World Bank.
	Yeah, what'd you find?
	I think I know what the, what the key is here.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	The head of it is David Malpass, who was a Undersecretary of Treasury under Trump, Assistant Treasury Secretary under Reagan, worked under George H.W.
	Bush.
	He's a Republican!
	That's the problem!
	The guy heading the World Bank is a Republican, and we can't have that!
	No!
	This is an outrage!
	No, we can't have that at all.
	Alright, uh, last climate change clip that I have, just to kind of accentuate it.
	A woman and a young boy have been killed in a polar bear attack in Alaska.
	It happened in the village of Wales in the northwestern part of the state.
	Police say the polar bear chased multiple residents before being shot.
	Experts say decreasing ice is making polar bear encounters more common.
	So first, first there were no polar bears.
	Now, because it's melting, not only do we not have polar bears, but now they're attacking people.
	They're more common.
	Unbelievable.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	So much fun, everybody.
	Okay.
	I have one thing from Davos, which is UN at Davos.
	I picked it up off NHK.
	Hold on a second.
	I got to open your full... Oh, I'm sorry.
	I have to refresh.
	Well, now's not the time to take a shower.
	What can I tell you?
	What's it called again?
	U.N.
	Ah, U.N.
	Sabos.
	Okay, I got it.
	U.N.
	Secretary General Antonio Guterres is in Davos, Switzerland at the World Economic Forum.
	He's been highlighting the divisions between developed countries and emerging nations.
	The theme of this year's meeting is cooperation in a fragmented world.
	We face the gravest levels of geopolitical division and mistrust in generations and it is undermining everything.
	Guterres said he remains unconvinced wealthier nations and leaders truly grasp the frustration and anger in the so-called global South.
	He also said political and business leaders need to work together and called for quote private sector resourcefulness and cooperation Money.
	Give us money!
	It's all about the money.
	It's all about the money.
	There was something else going on at the same time as Davos, which I was unaware of when someone alerted me to it.
	Another global initiative, a global streaming webcast with all kinds of luminaries.
	This is also obviously a climate change thing, but not just about the climate change, but what we need to do when we can't eat beef anymore.
	Because this is clearly killing the earth.
	This is just the opening with this multi-culti lady who opened up this whole... I mean, it was a big thing.
	Really big people speaking on it.
	Link in the show notes if you want to see it.
	What's the name of it?
	She says it right here.
	Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening to wherever you are in the world.
	I'm Natalie Becker-Okovic, and I'll be hosting this Global Dialogue.
	I'm a co-founder of Thought Leader Global, and we do storytelling around people and organizations having a positive impact.
	And through our work, I'm an advocate for community health.
	And that starts with ensuring that everyone has access to nourishing food.
	I'm thrilled and excited and happy and inspired to be part of today's event.
	Now on behalf of our co-hosts EAT and the Rockefeller Foundation, I'd like to join and welcome each and every one of you and thank you for joining us to reimagine food systems beyond COVID-19.
	Our program today will take a hard look And there will be food!
	What we're up against.
	We will look at the street level perspectives on COVID's damage to the food system.
	From there, we will explore clear plans and actions to back a more nutritious, sustainable, equitable and resilient food system for the world post COVID-19.
	And there will also be food.
	And there will be food.
	Okay, good one.
	Yeah.
	The reimagining food system.
	It's like a shaggy dog story.
	Yeah, it was.
	Because COVID ruined it all!
	COVID!
	COVID!
	Oh yeah, there's no food anymore.
	Tina and I went to K&C Cattle yesterday to pick up a new, a new, it was about a third of a cow.
	Yeah, that's a quarter, it's in quarters.
	It's a third, no, it's a third.
	They sell a third, nobody does that, but go on.
	Okay, Cara.
	Yes, they do sell that to me because they love me.
	But the main point of the story was that everyone is asking Cole from KNC, are you going to put mRNA vaccines into your cattle?
	This is like the big question.
	They are?
	Well, of course they're not.
	So we're going to be eating mRNA vaccines now with the meat?
	That is- I'm sure that place isn't going to do anything like that.
	No, of course not.
	But not just into the animals, but into vegetables, all kinds of stuff they want to put- Vegetables?
	Yes!
	Into lettuce?
	Vegetables don't need a vaccine!
	No, but it's to put the vaccine into us!
	That's the idea.
	Oh, to get the vaccine into us.
	Yes, that's the idea.
	Talking about trying to kill us.
	So I had somebody sent, somebody sent, that's my segway.
	I love it, but go ahead.
	So somebody sent me a three pack of the Kraft macaroni and cheese gummies.
	Oh, the one that tastes like macaroni and cheese?
	Well, that's the joke.
	It looks like a little macaroni cheese colored.
	It tastes nothing like macaroni.
	It tastes like orange.
	It's actually pretty good, to be honest about it, for a gummy.
	First everyone gets grossed out, and then you have it and you go, And you eat it, this doesn't, it's got a citrus notes.
	Notes?
	Like a fine wine.
	Kind of a citrus notes with a little, maybe some, some milk tones.
	It's actually quite tasty.
	It's a, it's a, it's not bad.
	I mean, it's a funny looking box and it's a gimmick, obviously, but.
	Gummies themselves are edible.
	I am.
	If you like gummies.
	I'm a little disappointed because we got pictures of those for the longest time.
	People say, oh look, this is the end of it.
	It's mac and cheese flavored gummies is what I thought, but it's not.
	Bull crap.
	Oh man.
	No one's going to eat those.
	They actually have something you can actually you can choke it down.
	It's not like.
	Macaroni and cheese flavored gummies.
	Oh man, I'm so disappointed.
	So I thought I'd give a report on that.
	Yes, very good.
	Thank you for the person who sent me those mac and cheese.
	I don't know who sent it because it came by on Amazon.
	They went through Amazon.
	It's supposed to be a gift and there was no note in there.
	I don't know.
	Well, that's very kind.
	That's very kind you got that.
	There were two other kind of interesting things that I picked up from Davos.
	One is the Saudi finance minister, or I should say finance minister, and he did an interview with Bloomberg, and it was mainly about China and, you know, because they're getting close to China apparently.
	And the big question that we've kind of had is, you know, what is the deal with the Riyadh?
	Is it the Riyadh or the Riyal?
	Riyadh.
	No, no, no, Riyal.
	Riyal is there.
	No, Rial.
	Rial is the town.
	Rial is the village.
	Rial is the money.
	And it seems like that's been unpegged from the dollar.
	And that was just a kind of a warning sign.
	But the whole idea behind the petrodollar Is we went to Saudi Arabia in the 70s and said, you guys, you on your camels here, you can be kings and sheiks and whatever you want to be will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams as long as you keep selling your oil in US dollars so that the American dollar is the reserve currency of the world.
	Do I have that correct?
	I'm not sure if you have it correct, but it's kind of what happened.
	I don't know if it was in the 70s.
	I don't know that the reserve currency is more than just a petrodollar.
	Correct.
	But it was important.
	It was important in anyone who, but I know for a fact, and you know this, anyone who bucks this system gets killed.
	Right.
	Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, they wanted to sell their oil in Was there a discussion around paying for oil in Yuan?
	- So, Vinar, get out of town. - So listen to this. - Was there a discussion around paying for oil in Yuan?
	Fill or kill on this rumor?
	- Okay.
	- Two things.
	One is we enjoy a very strategic relationship with China and we enjoy that same strategic relationship with other nations including the US and we wanted to develop that with Europe and other countries who are willing and able to work with us to advance the public good in the world.
	I think with regard to China, they are the largest trading partner with Saudi Arabia.
	I think there are no issues with discussing how we settle our trade arrangements, whether it is the US dollar, whether it is the euro, whether it is the Saudi rial or their currency.
	There was no discussion on that at all?
	I don't think we are waving away or ruling out any discussion that will help improve the trade around the world.
	Sounds to me like he said, yeah, whatever!
	You got your euros?
	Maybe he's saying he's beating around the bush, which is what he was doing.
	Seems to me.
	He said, we have no issue as long as it improves the trade.
	Is it possible that when he's, he's not being specific, I think he may be saying, well, we don't have any issue, but.
	But we don't want to get killed.
	We don't want to get killed.
	Let's do it on the QT people.
	Like, shh, don't say it so loud, man.
	Okay.
	I'll take that.
	We'll see.
	And then just another one, just because it can lead me into an interesting statistic about Congress.
	JP Morgan Chase chairman Jamie Dimon on set with CNBC.
	It used to be, we covered Davos almost every year since we started the show, I think.
	And the main source of clips was really only CNBC.
	Because no one else would really care.
	It was a bit like Yeah, just no one cared.
	It was like, ah, the elites are there.
	They'd have helicopter shots, you know.
	Whoa, we can see down there, Davos, important people are doing meetings this week.
	And now we've got people hounding Bourla and Schwab on the streets, so it's a little different.
	But oh, you could always count... Yes, better.
	Yeah, much better.
	Could always count on CNBC to have their full panel with the snowy mountain set outside.
	They're all dressed up in their coats, and they always have Jamie Dimon on.
	And this year, they had him on once again, and he just goes nuts over Bitcoin for some reason.
	He mentioned Bitcoin.
	You said you didn't know what we were talking about.
	We pretty much always have some crypto conversation with you.
	I'm just curious, because I don't think we've talked to you since... I think all that's been a waste of time, and why you guys waste any breath on it is totally beyond me.
	Because you just think the whole thing just is... Going to zero?
	Going to zero and it's fake?
	Bitcoin itself is a hyped-up fraud.
	It's a pet rock.
	A pet rock?
	Really?
	Of course, yeah.
	So what do you make then of BlackRock and other firms that are investing in infrastructure?
	No, that's different.
	Blockchain is a technology ledger system that we use to move information.
	We've used it to do overnight repo, intraday repo.
	We've used it to We're going to use it.
	We've used it to move money.
	So that is a ledger.
	That's a technology ledger type of thing that we think will be deployable.
	Remember, we've been talking about that for 12 years, too, and very little has been done.
	There are some tokens that I agree with you on, but Bitcoin is based on a distributed ledger.
	It has all the characteristics of a store of value.
	It's immutable.
	It's scarce.
	Totally untrue.
	It's 21 million.
	Oh yeah, really?
	How do you know it's going to stop at 21 million?
	Because it's Satoshi... Everyone says that.
	Well, maybe it's going to get to 21 million and Satoshi's picture is going to come up and laugh at you all.
	By then, Satoshi will have taken out billions of dollars.
	I love that!
	What's that all about?
	I don't know.
	Well, I think what he's saying is... No, but why is Sorkin insisting on hounding him about it?
	And what is the point of the discussion so far as Davos?
	I believe the idea was to promote the stablecoin USDC, which BlackRock is, as we know from the last show, is heavily invested in.
	And he said, we move money over intraday repos we do on blockchain.
	Really?
	You know, that means that they're passing money around which is backed on the money in the first place.
	I don't know, to me it felt like there's some message there.
	Obviously, Bitcoin bad because when we hit 21 million, which will be in about 150 years, when we hit 21 million, Satoshi's going to pop up and go, ha ha ha, and he'll have exited by then.
	From the grave.
	And then all this other stuff is going to be super good.
	But there's crypto in the air.
	Uh, big, uh, big arrest.
	Big arrest.
	Checking the top stories, a Russian national has been arrested in Miami, accused of using his cryptocurrency exchange to lauder more than $700 million in illicit funds.
	The Justice Department says the company was also an online marketplace for drugs and stolen financial information.
	Yeah, crypto bad, crypto bad.
	What a business.
	But!
	Here's a very short, just a headline from Coindesk, and this is perhaps interesting in this regard.
	New analysis from Coindesk reveals 196 lawmakers took cash from Sam Bankman Freed or other executives at FTX.
	That's almost a third of Congress was on the take from this kid.
	A third!
	Across the board.
	Did you hear about this?
	No, but it doesn't surprise me.
	No, but this is going to be used against people.
	I would hope so.
	Kevin McCarthy got a couple million.
	Chuck Schumer got a couple million.
	All the new Republicans who are now on the Agriculture Board, which I think oversees commodities.
	And so I think if you look at some Some of these... Bitcoin is considered a commodity, so they're looking for regulators.
	It is?
	Yes, it is.
	By the SEC, I think they ruled it.
	And the other guys, the... I forget all the regulators.
	Yeah, everything is a security, except Bitcoin, that's a commodity.
	That's what they say.
	So, you know, to oversee that, I don't know.
	It feels to me like... Somebody should put out a list of the people that got money from this guy.
	Coindesk has it.
	It's quite extensive.
	An actual list that you can publish?
	Yeah.
	It's in the show notes.
	It's worth taking a look at.
	It's a little more Democrats than Republicans, but it's a lot of money.
	And, you know, half of these people are saying, well, you know, I donated it to a good cause.
	Yeah, sure.
	My wife.
	Did you set it aside?
	No, it's always their favorite non-profit.
	Yeah, run by their wife.
	I think that money belongs to the shareholders or the depositors who got screwed.
	I think it does.
	I'm telling you, John.
	They'll never get it out of them.
	No, no.
	They won't.
	But this thing is deep.
	There's a lot going on with this FTX thing.
	They brought that Enron guy in.
	He covered up stuff.
	We still don't know who put up the bail for Sam Bankman Freed.
	It's got to be one of those.
	Maybe it's... Maybe it's... Well, my understanding is that he never put up bail.
	It was a promissory note.
	Yes, from two people.
	Yeah, his parents.
	Well, it was redacted.
	His parents do not have $25 million.
	No, but you don't have to have $25 million to put up a promissory note.
	I could do it.
	I'm going to give you $25 million to sign my name.
	But you have to show the assets, don't you?
	Not if the judge doesn't demand it.
	Of course.
	Well, the judge probably also got some coin.
	Who knows?
	Of course.
	Everybody got coin.
	Uh, I don't know.
	It's weird.
	It's very weird.
	I feel like Dick Cheney today.
	Oh, you?
	Anyway, good news- Let's talk about COVID.
	Alright, good news.
	Birth rate is down, death rate is up.
	Good work, everybody.
	This is some China stuff.
	First let's do COVID versus Ron DeSantis.
	This is good stuff.
	Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announced a new plan yesterday.
	It will make protections against coercive biomedical policies permanent.
	And today's Daniel Monaghan has more.
	Being the free state of Florida did not happen by accident.
	The legislation will prohibit COVID vaccination passports and any COVID mask requirements.
	It will also bar all discrimination based on vaccination or booster status, including for schools.
	You still have universities that are forcing these students to get these booster shots, even though there have been studies- Stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Back it up a little bit.
	You know what?
	I've been trying to, I've been listening to DeSantis in kind of in anticipation of comics doing his voice.
	Yeah.
	Now, when you listen to him here, tell him he doesn't sound just like Glenn Greenwald.
	Okay.
	It will also bar all discrimination based on vaccination or booster status, including for schools.
	You still have universities.
	Oh, right there!
	Universities!
	He sounds a little gay, actually.
	Totally.
	Huh.
	You still have universities that are forcing these students... This is exactly Greenwald!
	Oh, is this a milieu issue?
	I nailed it.
	You did.
	...to get these booster shots, even though there have been studies showing they're at more risk from negative effects of the shot than they are from COVID itself at that age, and so... The governor discussed the past battles, Clark.
	Yeah, you really did nail that.
	You almost expect him to say, back to you, Tucker.
	I mean, it's incredible.
	Thanks, Tucker.
	Thanks, Tucker.
	The governor discussed the past battles Florida had to wage to preserve such freedoms, saying it required standing up to major institutions in the society, the medical establishment, what he called the legacy media, and even the President of the United States.
	Who together were working to impose a biomedical security state on society.
	They sought to marginalize people who declined COVID jabs by using things like vaccine passports.
	They sought to prevent people from being able to earn a...
	What happened there?
	Someone just going nuts in the crowd?
	...jabs by using things like vaccine passports.
	They sought to prevent people from being able to earn a living if they declined the jab through the Biden employer mandate.
	He added that Florida intends to protect the right of medical practitioners to be able to speak the truth.
	And they sought to silence medical practitioners who followed the evidence and back the science over the narrative.
	This is really quite something that we're hearing here, besides the fact that he sounds just like Glenn Greenwald.
	So Trump, I think, I don't have a clip, he came out and he combated this and said, Well, you know, I did the vaccines.
	We did it.
	I'm paraphrasing.
	Super warp speed.
	We got it all done.
	Saved probably 100 million people worldwide.
	But I didn't mandate it.
	Which he didn't.
	He let that happen.
	But it seems so counterintuitive.
	DeSantis is truly doing a Trumpian speech here.
	And Trump himself keeps defending...
	Trump's painting himself into a corner here.
	And DeSantos senses it, and he's going in for the kill.
	He's not DeSantos, it's DeSantis.
	I still think Trump may mean, what he may be saying is, if I hadn't fast-tracked these vaccines, y'all would still be in lockdown.
	That's possible, but it's time to give that up.
	Uh, he's got a bail.
	It's really, it's really odd.
	And the longer he drags it on, the worse it's gonna be.
	And people are migrating towards DeSantos.
	DeSantos!
	DeSantos!
	From now on, DeSantos.
	Glenn DeSantos.
	By the way, the way he pronounces certain words like impose and some of these other words that are in his Glenn Greenwald-like patter is very similar, and I pointed this out before, to the pronunciation profile of Rand Paul.
	Yeah.
	Who also has this kind of drags out certain kind of words.
	Well, where's DeSantos from?
	Where was he born?
	Well, we have to look this up to figure it out because there is a milieu possibility here.
	Now, he is a Yalie.
	He's Delta Kappa.
	Early life.
	Born in Jacksonville.
	He's from Florida.
	He's from Florida.
	That could be part of a Florida accent.
	Well, is Glenn Greenwald from Florida?
	No, but the Brazilians in Florida are very tight.
	Again, something she would say.
	Glenn Greenwald is born in New York City.
	Did he ever live in Florida?
	I know that he did, but he moved.
	Again, it might be Milieu more than state, but I know there's a peculiar number of... Ah, Lauderdale!
	Inspired by his grandfather's time on the then Lauderdale Lake City Council.
	Yes, he attended Nova Middle School and Nova High School in Davie, Florida.
	Wow, what a catch, John!
	They may have been lovers!
	For all we know.
	Well, the Floridian accent, I found this, because there's a number of words that annoy me when people say it.
	And one of them is food.
	When they say food, they say food.
	Food?
	Is that anything like, okay, food.
	You don't like food?
	And so I've tracked that down to North Carolina.
	Hmm.
	That's a North Carolina accent when people say that and there's a number of other affectations from North Carolina and I picked this, finally got a good clue on this from a show, a PBS cooking show called The Farmer and the Cook or something.
	It was this woman and her, they did this special for about two seasons and then they got divorced because they couldn't take it anymore.
	She's lording it over him.
	Great show!
	It was.
	And so she's still on the air, and she's got this really strong North Carolina accent, which includes all these screwball pronunciations, which are all annoying.
	And so Florida, I think, has similar accents, because I'm hearing that in North Carolina accents, too.
	It's some southern thing, but exactly why... Rand Paul has it from Kentucky, but I don't know if he was... I mean, was his dad was from Texas, I think?
	Or I'm not sure where... His dad talks nothing like that.
	No.
	So, I don't know.
	It's interesting to me, but... Yeah, I mean, yeah.
	I think we've worn it out.
	So let's do part two of the same clip.
	DeSantis was joined by Florida Surgeon General Joseph Latipo.
	Is all of these crazy ideas, whether it's the lockdowns, or the mask mandates, or the vaccine mandates, or the you can't cook with gas, you can't use fire, whatever it is, right?
	It's all these crazy ideas.
	He's a little different here.
	It's a little different.
	It's not the same accent.
	I'm not quite sure why it's different.
	He speaks, he's like Trump.
	Yeah.
	When he speaks from a prompter, he has one sound, and then when he speaks off the cuff, he has another sound.
	Yes.
	Got it.
	Whatever it is, right?
	It's all these crazy ideas, and Governor DeSantis gets to say no, that doesn't make sense.
	This is not DeSantis, this is another guy.
	Some other guy.
	No wonder he sounds different!
	Gratitude that there is a lot of consensus around the new legislation to quote, codify more common sense in Florida.
	There's just a lot of, there's a lot of lunacy out there, and having a place of just common sense and sensibility.
	Again, the Florida, he's a different guy, but he's got that Florida accent.
	It's refreshing to a lot of people.
	He compared that to California and Assembly Bill 2098.
	Governor Gavin Newsom signed that legislation, which punishes the dissemination of so-called misinformation related to COVID-19.
	That means medical practitioners could lose their licenses for opinions not in line with the current medical establishment.
	Yeah!
	Now, that is the bill that will, that is going, unless Newsom does something about it pretty soon.
	It'll tank him.
	That's going to ruin his career.
	It'll tank him.
	Yep.
	This is the no, I call it, you know, they'd like to rename bills.
	Yeah.
	I, I term this bill the no second opinion bill.
	You cannot get a second opinion on anything that violates the government edict.
	So you go to a doctor and he says, yeah, you should get this shot.
	I wanted to get a second opinion.
	Sorry, you can't get a second opinion.
	Now, is this passed or can he still veto it?
	He signed it.
	He signed it?
	So he can't even rescind it?
	Yeah, he stupidly signed it.
	This is the dumbest thing he's ever done.
	He could have had a million phony baloney excuses for not signing it, but he signed it like an idiot.
	Probably, I don't know why I haven't written an essay on this, but I should, because I've got to get this down.
	He is, this is a huge mistake, a blunder of the highest order.
	As a side note, Pfizer just gave a million dollars to the Republican Party of Kentucky to expand its headquarters.
	Just to bring all that in.
	The unit party doesn't care about you, people.
	Doesn't.
	They don't care about you.
	That's true.
	Don't care about you.
	So now we go to China, and I want to play these COVID clips about China, because there's a tidbit in here I didn't know.
	Maybe we knew it, but I don't remember it.
	I do remember a couple of things, though.
	You do?
	Well, actually, let's play this first, and then we'll talk about a couple of things.
	There's COVID in China, weird stats.
	We're continuing with the COVID crisis in China.
	What exactly is going on?
	Official government COVID numbers and death tolls are generally dismissed.
	So how is a true picture of the situation established?
	NTD's Tiffany Meyer reports.
	It's unclear how much of a toll the COVID-19 pandemic has on China's population.
	That's due to what many call a lack of transparency on data coming out of China.
	But some unusual numbers have brought the true scale of the pandemic's death toll under suspicion.
	One example came in 2020, when China's biggest cell phone carriers reported losing 21 million subscriptions.
	That's in just the first two months of that year, when the pandemic first hit China.
	In contrast, users increased during the same period of time in 2017, 2018 and 2019.
	in 2017, 2018, and 2019.
	The sharp decline over the span of two months is unusual as Chinese citizens use their phones for pretty much everything.
	From cashless payments to settling rent and transportation costs, some users do have multiple cell phone accounts.
	But it's shy of explaining the 21 million number.
	The current outbreak in China is also considered heavily under-reported.
	Over the weekend, a resident in China disclosed on social media that all four of his grandparents, as well as his mother and father, had all passed away.
	Being an only child, he explained he's now alone.
	Looking at another clip, last week a Shanghai resident took video of caskets lining the city streets, stretching for several miles.
	Yeah, I get such conflicting reports from everybody in China.
	I know you get conflicting reports, but the 21 million is a big deal.
	Yeah.
	Because there's no evidence that the numbers ever decreased by one, let alone 21 million for that cell phone carrier.
	We had this report like a year ago, I think, or something similar to it, and they were counting the cell phones.
	Yeah, and if you remember during the early outbreak of the disease when they were shutting down a lot, there was this rumor that the virus was genetically targeting Han Chinese.
	Do you remember that?
	Yes, yes, yes I do.
	With that rumor combined with these cell phone subscribers bailing out, 21 million of them, and also rumors of the certain, yeah, we get conflicting reports because we have people over there.
	Yes.
	And now we have this guy shows, you can't really Photoshop, I guess you could, but it's hard to Photoshop movies unless you have lots of time on your hands.
	Hold on a second.
	Ah, I knew it.
	My brain is phenomenal.
	Miles long piles of coffins.
	Hey, hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	I knew it.
	My brain is phenomenal.
	Episode 1228.
	So when was that?
	12-28 was... 300 shows ago.
	Yeah, that's about... Here it is.
	21 million fewer cell phone users in China may suggest a high CCP virus death toll.
	And that's from Epoch Times.
	So at March 22nd, 2020.
	What's going on here?
	So this is the same statistic?
	From the same period.
	That's what this report is to.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	All right.
	So then we, we knew this.
	Yeah, we knew this, but it's been brought up again by NTD, who of course are affiliated.
	Yeah, exactly.
	All right.
	So we, you know, again, is maybe it's true.
	Maybe it's not.
	Do we know the number 21 million is accurate?
	Yeah, that's when Satoshi pops up.
	Yeah, so she pops up.
	That's funny.
	Good coincidence.
	Yeah.
	I think not.
	Let's play a clip to part two of this.
	In China, some doctors are saying they've been instructed on how to certify COVID-19 deaths.
	Amid what some experts are calling a peak of Beijing's COVID-19 wave, hospitals are posting out a notice.
	Citing a directive from China's National Health Commission, the post says doctors should try not to list COVID-19 on death certificates.
	Instead, they must report related cases to their superiors for inspection by authorities.
	That's before they can decide on what cause of death to confirm on the certificates.
	Several doctors in other Chinese hospitals said they received similar instructions, either verbally or via hospital policy announcements.
	A doctor from Shanghai shared an article online earlier this month.
	In it, he said he was asked to change the cause of death on a certificate from COVID-19 to something else.
	He explained he didn't want to alter it in front of the patient's family and started questioning the official directive on COVID-19 deaths.
	And over in California, a now U.S.
	resident from China says he's endured the death of multiple family members.
	All of them died during the current virus surge in Beijing.
	He said his grandmother and uncle-in-law had tested positive for COVID-19 before they died.
	While his father, father-in-law and uncle died of heart disease, asthma and lung infection.
	None of them were entered into China's official COVID-19 death count.
	It was, you know, when Horowitz texted me yesterday, and it was interesting because I was just listening to the DHM plug show, and he texted me and said, I got COVID again!
	I'm like, wow, this is crazy, man.
	So, you know, we're just going back and forth.
	And he says, you know, a guy I met who, because he tested because he was going to go to a wedding this weekend.
	Everyone's worried about spreading, so that's why he tested.
	And so, of course, he's not going to go to the wedding.
	But he said a buddy of his who I think is in vaccine manufacturing, they're all blaming this on China letting everybody out.
	It's all China's fault now.
	It's not because of...
	People being overboosted and creating variants and that keeps spinning around the globe.
	No, it's because of China.
	Because of China.
	Yeah, and as we know, Fort Lauderdale, Florida is crawling with Chinese nationals.
	I know, they're a plague.
	And they all sound like Glenn Greenwald.
	Yeah, that makes sense that you would do that.
	Yeah.
	So that's probably where a lot of this propaganda is headed, is to blame China for a failed product.
	Hmm.
	Whatever you do, I have a super cut.
	Whatever you do, do not go on Twitter to find information about COVID.
	Have you heard this warning?
	Isn't this the same clip?
	I sent a note back to the guy.
	We played this clip.
	I don't remember this.
	I do, because I'm the one who produced it and had it on the show.
	Let me see.
	So I got duped here.
	Let me see.
	Supercut.
	I don't know how well it's in the title.
	I mean, it's worth listening to.
	Again, I don't have a problem listening to supercuts over and over.
	Let's see.
	Let me see if this is the same one.
	Hold on a second.
	You'll want to be even more cautious when reading about COVID on Twitter.
	Be extra cautious when you're looking for health information in the Twitterverse.
	The company drops its COVID misinformation policy.
	I'm sorry.
	All right.
	Well, we'll play it out since it's fun.
	I thought it was new.
	It's a fun clip.
	Play the new version that you have.
	It's the same version.
	It's COVID-19 misinformation policy.
	Be cautious while looking for health information in the Twitterverse.
	Be extra cautious while looking for health information in the Twitterverse.
	Be extra cautious while looking for health information in the Twitterverse.
	Be extra cautious while looking for health information on the Twitterverse.
	Be extra cautious while looking for health information in the Twitterverse.
	Be extra cautious while looking for health information on Twitter.
	Be extra cautious while looking at health information on Twitter.
	Be extra cautious while looking for health information on Twitter.
	Be extra cautious while looking for health information on Twitter.
	Be extra cautious while you're looking for health information on Twitter.
	Be extra cautious while looking for health information on Twitter.
	I got two stories from Twitter that I wanted to discuss.
	One is the FDA apparently will no longer require animal testing to be done before human trials for any type of drug.
	That comes from Science Magazine.
	That's not good.
	No, it depends.
	If you're an animal, I guess it's good.
	Yeah, it's good for the animals.
	Well, that's probably who forced this.
	And the new COVID variant, there's yet another one, a new one, it's Orthrus.
	O-R-T-H-R-U-S.
	Orthrus.
	Now they're just screwing with us.
	Why?
	They're mocking us.
	They're coming up with crackpot names that we have to say.
	What is Orthrus?
	Isn't it Greek mythology?
	Orthrus?
	It's the two-headed dog of Greek mythology!
	It's a two-headed dog.
	So it is Greek mythology.
	They went from Kraken to Orthrus.
	Well, they had to get rid of Kraken.
	That was a problem.
	Well, I've got two Twitter clips.
	Okay.
	I got the Twitter files, the new FBI timeline.
	By the way, a lot of the stuff I noticed today, and this is a good example, And the example of the 21 million clip.
	This is all... The No Agenda show has covered this two years ago.
	Yeah.
	We're so ahead of everybody else that this stuff, you know, kind of snaps back and then, oh, okay, well, we already knew that.
	But let's hear the newest version of it.
	This is the Twitter... Which does make it kind of difficult because sometimes everyone's like, oh, have you heard this?
	And I'm just like, I'm kind of bored because we did that already.
	And I feel... Years ago sometimes.
	I don't know if it's good or bad that we sometimes don't reach back.
	Because people just seem to forget stuff from three months ago, even.
	Well, they forget stuff from two weeks ago, but let's go to Twitterfile's new FBI timeline.
	One of the journalists involved in releasing the so-called Twitterfiles is sharing what he learned about the FBI.
	He wrote an op-ed detailing his findings.
	Journalist Michael Schellenberger is one of a few who worked with Elon Musk in releasing the so-called Twitter files.
	On Wednesday, Fox News released Schellenberger's op-ed titled, Elon Musk chose us to report on the Twitter files.
	Here are the disturbing things I learned about the FBI.
	Schellenberger says he discovered that the FBI and intelligence community discredited factual information about Hunter Biden's foreign business dealings both after and before the New York Post revealed them to the world in October 2020.
	He says in December of 2019, the FBI issued a subpoena for Hunter Biden's laptop and then picked it up at a repair shop in Delaware.
	In December, Schellenberger tweeted that it would have only taken a few hours for the FBI to confirm that the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden, saying it only took a few days for a journalist.
	According to Schellenberger, the FBI did nothing to investigate the many signs of criminal activity revealed by emails and other documents on the laptop.
	Months later, Rudy Giuliani received a copy of the laptop and brought it to the New York Post.
	Then in October, Hunter Biden and his lawyer learned that the New York Post was planning to run the laptop story.
	On that same day, just two hours later, the FBI reportedly sent 10 documents to Twitter's then head of site integrity, Yule Roth.
	When the Post published the article the next day, it was censored by Twitter and other social media companies almost right away.
	The FBI reportedly kept warning Twitter and Facebook of Russian hack and leak campaigns.
	Schellenberger writes that an FBI agent admitted those warnings weren't based on any new findings.
	Through our investigations, we did not see any similar competing intrusions to what had happened in 2016.
	Hmm.
	Okay. - Okay. - Just kind of That's why the timeline has to be all secretive and shit.
	Because it goes pre-New York Post and they also...
	No, it's all the way back to Obama.
	That's why the timeline has to be all secretive and shit.
	I guess, yeah, okay.
	Let's play part two of that.
	Schellenberger also writes that a big number of former agents started to work for Twitter.
	As of 2020, there were so many former FBI employees, BU alumni, working at Twitter that they had created their own private Slack channel and a crib sheet to onboard new FBI arrivals.
	After the Twitter files came out, Representative Jim Jordan said he was concerned about the government running a misinformation operation on Americans.
	NTD reached out to the FBI for comment on Schellenberger's op-ed, but did not hear back before broadcast.
	Oh boy.
	I like the fact they had their own Slack channel.
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	It's cute.
	Yeah, so they can communicate all the time, just quickie.
	Orthrus, I'm sorry to go back to this, was a monster in Greek mythology, a dog with two heads, and brother of Cerberus, the three-headed dog.
	Oh, that's coming next.
	That guarded the underworld.
	Well, then we also have Typhius and Echidna.
	That won't happen because you can't pronounce it.
	No, I think Cerberus should be next.
	I agree.
	They are just messing with us.
	I agree.
	They're messing with us.
	They're messing with us.
	It's funny, though.
	It's cute.
	Three-headed, two-headed dog.
	It's cute.
	I'd say it's cute.
	It's not a dog.
	So we had the Kiev chopper crash.
	Yeah.
	Let's talk about Ukraine before we go to the break.
	Do you want to do, you know, looking at the donations again, do you want to do just one donation, Rick?
	One big long donation.
	It's not even going to be one big long one.
	No, it's less than 50 people total who donate to this show from a mailing list of 30,000 and a viewership, listenership of 850,000.
	So that's, you know, I blame the news.
	The news?
	Yeah, it's boring.
	What?
	How does that affect us?
	Here's the only good... Well, because people... Why are we giving them money for it?
	It's boring.
	I have a quick ABC 14-second teaser to get us into it.
	And we have breaking news from you.
	Come on, come on.
	It's 14 seconds.
	You'll live.
	And we have breaking news from Ukraine.
	There's word that Ukraine's interior minister has been killed in a helicopter crash near the capital of Kiev.
	At least 16 people were killed, including two children.
	There was no immediate word on the cause of the crash, but we'll bring you more details as we get them.
	Now, I'm sure that didn't mess up here.
	No, you won't.
	It's a lie.
	Okay.
	My Keeve chopper crash is at one point... Keeve?
	You said Keeve!
	Have they captured you?
	It's at one point, yes.
	1.11 has a little more detail.
	At least 16 people were killed in a helicopter crash just outside Kiev on Wednesday, including Ukraine's Interior Minister.
	It came down between this kindergarten, in the eastern suburb of Brovary, and a residential block.
	Three children were among the dead, President Volodymyr Zelensky said, calling the crash a terrible tragedy.
	The pain is unspeakable, he said in a statement.
	Ukrainian officials said the cause wasn't immediately clear.
	They made no reference to any Russian attack in the area at the time.
	National Police Chief Ihor Klimenko confirmed that Interior Minister Denys Monastirskiy was killed, alongside his first deputy, Yevheni Yanin, and other ministry officials on board.
	Monastirskiy was the most senior Ukrainian official to die since the war began.
	The French-made Super Puma helicopter was operated by the state emergency service.
	At least six people were killed on the ground, officials said, including the children.
	According to the regional governor, at least 29 were injured, 15 of them children.
	Air Force spokesperson Yuri Ihnat said it could take several weeks at least to investigate the disaster.
	Yeah, I love the... We got a producer who... Have you ever heard from this producer before, who all of a sudden started to send us lots of emails?
	Yeah, he started to send five emails a day.
	Yeah, has he been around?
	Do you know him?
	I don't recall him.
	I'd have to look at my history.
	Yeah, I didn't recall him either, and he had this whole breakdown, and it was clearly Russia.
	And you actually thanked him on email and said, hey, thanks for the briefing.
	Which I thought was funny.
	Thanks for the briefing.
	It was a briefing.
	You're a new guy.
	It seems there may have been a device planted on the helicopter.
	Yeah, there's no evidence of this yet.
	And I've heard that it was so fogged in that you can barely see it in front of your face.
	Uh, that's always very dangerous with helicopters.
	I'd say.
	But I heard that the rotor had separated from the aircraft itself.
	No evidence of what I saw on the crash from crash pictures.
	It seems like it was intact, so I don't know.
	But in general, You know, you get these French helicopters, which are fine, you know, Eurocopter, also they're fine helicopters, and the Super Puma.
	But, you know, maintenance is everything.
	You need maintenance for these things.
	I won't even get on a helicopter, I won't even fly myself or with anyone else if I don't know who's been maintaining it.
	They're not really great machines, you know, and the Super Puma, man, that's a big helicopter.
	So I don't think, well you're right, I don't think we'll ever learn, but of course it is being used immediately for fundraising for Ukraine.
	Of course.
	Why not?
	And we have the Dutch Prime Minister was in Washington DC.
	Mark Rutte.
	Of course, no one cares about him.
	In fact, when he sat down with the president, all the press were just yelling about the documents in his Corvette.
	Mark Rutte is seen as a total goofball dumbo, just waiting his turn until he gets to go to get some cushy job in Brussels.
	And so, of course, he said, we're totally going to participate.
	We're going to help you out.
	We're going to help you out there, Ukraine.
	You bet!
	On Tuesday, the Netherlands announced that they will join the United States and Germany in helping to equip Ukraine with the defense system.
	According to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, this would not be a complete Patriot system, but rather equipment to supplement American and German aid.
	Volodymyr Zelensky, for his part, is trying to put pressure on the Dutch Prime Minister by announcing the sending of a full battery.
	Ukraine will receive another Patriot battery, thanks to our Dutch friends.
	We already have three guaranteed batteries, but this is only the beginning.
	We are working on So, this is not a full battery, this is only some supplemental stuff, and you can hear Zelensky immediately pressuring.
	just a few days after the Russian strike on the city of Dnipro, one of the deadliest since the beginning of the war.
	So this is not a full battery.
	This is only some supplemental stuff, and you can hear Zelensky immediately pressuring.
	By the way, from what I understand, that attack on the bombing of the apartment building, apparently it was Ukrainians who tried to shoot this missile down and diverted it into that building.
	Bye.
	Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me.
	Now, of course, that may be Russian propaganda.
	You never know.
	It could all be.
	We don't know.
	That's the problem.
	It could all be a movie set for all I know.
	The other thing is, you know, we have to keep forgetting the size of Ukraine.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yes.
	It's a monster country.
	It's huge.
	And what, you're going to have three Patriot missile batteries?
	I mean, the Patriot missile, you know, protecting Israel.
	which is a dinky country, wasn't enough to really do that much of anything.
	And you can maybe put a couple of batteries around Tel Aviv, a town, a city in Israel, and that would probably, you know, you get this Iron Dome idea.
	But the whole country of Ukraine, these things aren't going to be used for anything.
	Maybe they'll be used once in a while to protect somebody's farm or some particular installation.
	But it's ludicrous.
	Yeah.
	Mark Rutte made zero impression on the press or the president or anybody.
	No one cares.
	But he did go to the Atlantic Council.
	He's well known on our show.
	He went to the Atlantic Council and he had something to say there.
	We would accept.
	If we would accept for one moment that Putin could be successful in Ukraine, that he would get Kiev, that he would get the whole country, it won't end there.
	He will continue.
	History has taught us this lesson.
	I'm not going to say there are analogies between him and Hitler.
	Some are saying.
	But there is one analogy.
	And the analogy is with Munich 38.
	When Chamberlain came back and said, I bring you peace in our time, and Churchill saying, Britain had to choose between war and dishonor, Britain chose dishonor, it will get war.
	And for me, that analogy is absolutely there.
	So he's doing the Churchill thing as well, Zelensky, just like Churchill.
	Except he approached it from the reverse angle.
	Saying, well, Chamberlain said, and then Churchill said no.
	Yeah.
	This guy's got some good people to brief him.
	Not his ideas, that's for sure.
	On the grand scale of things, this is all about the military-industrial complex.
	The general now in charge of the Ukrainian fighting forces says, hey, you know, we're a great testing ground for new weapons.
	Send them over, boys.
	He's stating the obvious?
	Yes.
	Verbatim.
	And we have some pretty good... Did anybody come up and say, hey, what do you think we're doing?
	Yeah.
	And the idea is probably that these Patriot missiles will fail.
	It's not going to work right.
	Of course, they have to go through six months of training.
	The Ukrainian soldiers have already arrived in the United States.
	I forget what base they're at.
	They're getting their training.
	So I don't know.
	So no one's going to be operating them just now.
	It's a base in Oklahoma.
	Yes, it is.
	You're right.
	So no one will be operating them.
	But when they do, they should fail spectacularly so that we can yet again get some more money to build better stuff that we can kill people with who live in sandy areas, mainly.
	Which brings me to the movie that people should go watch.
	It's on YouTube, actually, the whole movie.
	It's called Pentagon Wars, starring Kelsey Grammer.
	He plays a great a-hole.
	Kelsey Grammer is terrific at playing certain roles.
	And there's always a comedic element to it.
	But the Pentagon Wars is a true story of some Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, I guess, I think it was what his ranking was, that got into the Pentagon, and his job was to push through, no matter what, the Bradley fighting vehicle.
	Right.
	Which began as a... and it has the whole story.
	It began as a troop carrier.
	And it evolved into just a nightmarish kind of a Homer Simpson-designed car that does too many things and didn't work and it was just junk.
	And the movie itself, which is Pentagon Wars... I got it in the show notes.
	I think it came out in 99?
	It's in the show notes.
	98?
	97 something?
	98.
	98.
	98?
	Uh-huh.
	It's terrific, and I'm sure it, of course, according to the comments that I read, it is still used as a training film at the Pentagon for people in... Well, they must have paid for it then, because how else is it on YouTube in its full glory from 1998?
	It must be bought and paid for by someone.
	Someone.
	But it's used as a training film, even though it accomplishes nothing.
	And you can see why when you watch this movie.
	It is quite funny.
	But it's about the Bradley fighting vehicle, which was always considered a white elephant.
	Which has now been sent over as the... We sent him to get rid of them!
	The shit we couldn't leave in Afghanistan!
	Send it to Ukraine!
	Get rid of that stuff!
	Here's the little report from TRT.
	The Turkish foreign minister came in because we're doing a deal.
	We're selling F-16s to them.
	Mevlut Cavusoglu is in Washington, D.C.
	for crucial face-to-face talks with his U.S.
	counterpart as the State Department kicked off the congressional approval process last week for the sale of F-16 fighter jets to Turkey with an informal notification sent to Capitol Hill.
	A handful of members of Congress, who publicly aligned themselves with the Greek position to block the sale, have already promised to do so again.
	The Turkish government is calling on America to weigh up the situation carefully.
	Here is what we are saying generally to the U.S.
	The balance in U.S.
	relations with Turkey and Greece has been off.
	The U.S.
	used to have a balanced policy.
	The balance between the Turkish and Greek Cypriots has also unfortunately been off.
	An ally like the U.S.
	should pay attention to the balance.
	U.S.
	President Joe Biden could soon move forward with the formal modification Despite staunch opposition from Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chair Bob Menendez, the President can still technically override Congress to get the deal over the line by forcing opponents to find an unlikely two-thirds majority.
	We should sell them the F-16 jets and modernize those jets as well.
	It's not in her interest not to do that.
	And I indicated to them that I've not changed my position at all since December.
	And there was no quid pro quo with that.
	It was just that we should sell.
	But I need congressional approval to be able to do that.
	And I think we can get that.
	Probably a good time.
	They don't get it.
	It's an old jet.
	That jet was first flown in 1974, which means it was probably designed in the late 60s.
	Why don't we give it to them, then, if it's old junk?
	Well, they still make them.
	They've modernized them a bit.
	Well, why don't we just sell it to them?
	I don't know why we're not selling them the F-35.
	That's the moneymaker.
	Whenever I say, eh, that turkey, I immediately get people who work on the F-35 program emailing me.
	Could you please tell me why you think it's a turkey?
	And I'll just say, that's what everyone else is saying.
	I don't know.
	No, that's what everyone says.
	It won't fly supersonic, right?
	Am I wrong about that?
	I don't, I'm not sure.
	I really don't know.
	It's a push because I asked the guy who emailed me and I said, Yeah, that's just what everyone's saying.
	I thought there might be something with... There were a couple of minor things I recall that were not right, but mainly because it's been such a boondoggle for so long.
	The overrun is 10 times or some incredible amount of what it was supposed to cost.
	And then I said, can you get me some simulator time?
	Which it was a hard no.
	It's like, I'll come over to your factory, let me fly this thing.
	Would that be fun?
	He says, it's a push-button plane.
	He says, anyone can fly it.
	How about that?
	Well, there you have it.
	Maybe time to bring up Smedley Butler, War is a Racket.
	If people are recommending things anyway, like the Pentagon Wars, that's probably a good thing to read.
	War is a Racket from Smedley Butler.
	It's in public domain.
	You can get copies of it or you can just download a PDF.
	But with all this materiel flowing throughout the world as we're just sending stuff over, all of our excess stuff, you get things like this happening.
	Back now with something TSA found inside a checked bag at San Antonio's airport.
	What appears to be an anti-tank weapon.
	Agents say it was declared at check-in, but the airline never told the TSA about it.
	It was not allowed through screening.
	Someone declared it?
	Hey, I got a tank bomb.
	A tank bomb?
	Anti-tank weapon in my carry-on.
	Is that okay?
	Sure, go ahead.
	You can just take it through TSA.
	Should've checked it.
	Where are these things coming from?
	Are they coming from, I ask you?
	So I got, let's see if I have anything else.
	I got the Ukraine update from NHK.
	It's probably worth listening to.
	Yes, okay.
	Hello, Hong Kong.
	Russian President Vladimir Putin says he has no doubt that victory in Ukraine is inevitable.
	The comment comes as his commanders move to expand and strengthen their armed forces.
	Putin commemorated the 80th anniversary of the Red Army breaking a Nazi cease during World War II.
	Did you hear that bugle sounded like one of those European ambulances from the 70s?
	Putin commemorated the 80th anniversary of the Red Army breaking a Nazi seize during World War II.
	He met with workers at a missile factory, now in the middle of ramping up production.
	This is the courage and heroism of our fighters during the special military operation on the front line and, of course, the work of defense industrial complexes.
	People like you.
	Putin revisited an old theme, calling Ukrainian leadership neo-Nazi.
	He said again that Russian troops are fighting to denazify the country.
	Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky also took up a familiar appeal.
	He asked leaders gathered at the World Economic Forum for more weapons.
	Wow.
	That's news.
	Wait a minute.
	Is Putin dead yet from the cancer?
	No.
	Or from the Parkinson's?
	No.
	Doesn't even have the shakes.
	This is annoying.
	I thought this would be done by now.
	We've been buffaloed.
	Did you think?
	So the second part of this is about the tanks, and the tanks, and more tanks.
	Eyes around the world will soon turn to Germany, where defense chiefs with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization are set to meet.
	The Friday Talks will once again focus on help for Ukraine.
	And this time, the main topic is tanks.
	German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said in Davos that Russia's aggression must fail.
	That is why we are continuously supplying Ukraine with large quantities of arms in close consultation with our partners.
	This includes air defense systems like IRIS-T or Patriot, artillery and armored infantry fighting vehicles.
	But Scholz declined to say whether Germany will allow its Leopard 2 battle tanks to be sent to Ukraine.
	They're the go-to tanks for about 20 countries.
	Poland and Finland have already announced they want to provide the tanks to Ukraine, but Germany can veto the move.
	Scholz suggested Tuesday that he'd be willing to allow the move under certain conditions.
	It follows some U.S.
	prodding, as Washington seems concerned about a spring offensive from Russia.
	Ahead of Friday's gathering, Germany's new defense minister will host his U.S.
	counterpart to discuss the issue.
	It's worth noting that as bad as everyone thinks Putin wants to conquer Ukraine so he can get the rest of Europe, thank you, Prime Minister Rutte, that he really hasn't been bombing Kiev that much.
	He just kind of seems to leave that alone.
	We bombed it a few times.
	There's been some hits, but of course we don't know too much about it.
	But Kiev is, of course, the... You're slipping into... You're saying Kiev.
	You're slipping into... I said Kiev, that time, Kiev.
	You kind of... Okay.
	Kiev is the motherland, is the home base.
	It's where Russia was first founded.
	Founded, yeah, right.
	So you don't want to blow it up, necessarily.
	I mean, you might eventually, but, you know, it's like blowing up your old family home just out of spite.
	It's other places you can blow up instead.
	Let's talk about this for a moment because we hear at the World Economic Forum, Queen Ursula and others talking about the, you know, we're going to rebuild.
	We have to rebuild Ukraine.
	That will be the next, the next tranche.
	Yeah, the next money grab.
	Right.
	So, what will the trigger be to settle this, to stop it?
	It sounds like Putin has to, it has to be Putin.
	Putin has to die, otherwise it just, they will not stop.
	It's whatever it takes.
	I think if Zelensky dies, same thing.
	No, because his wife will just slip into that spot.
	She'll take over.
	Well, you know, I guess.
	Well, if Zelensky goes, then all of a sudden there's going to be peace?
	No.
	There's got to be a better signal for that, don't you think?
	Well, Putin's not going to die, so he's got years to go.
	I mean, I don't think, I mean, look how long Fidel Castro lived, and they were trying to kill him from day one.
	Well, they could try the old exploding cigar bit.
	The exploding cigar.
	The exploding coke.
	Go ahead, Zelensky.
	I don't know.
	I'd like to know.
	I haven't heard anybody's suggestions.
	How about this?
	The only way we could do it is if a new theater opens up for the military-industrial complex.
	Oh, so we can throw money away someplace else?
	Yeah, maybe Taiwan.
	Well, you saw a little evidence there with the Turkey-Greece thing.
	Yeah, there's a bit of Turkey-Greece.
	But that's not big.
	No, it's gonna be big.
	We're talking a couple F-16s.
	We need other stuff.
	And how can you get compassion on the level of Ukraine for Turkey?
	Turkey, eh?
	No, you can't get... Africa falls in that same category.
	Oh, man.
	Everything at the World Economic Forum is about Africa.
	Oh yeah, that's where we're going to get all of our minerals from.
	Hey Africa!
	We're coming!
	We're coming!
	We're coming to get you!
	And the Africans are not stupid.
	They know it.
	Like, oh no, not these jamoks again.
	They're coming in and just going to ruin everything.
	Give us no chance to climb out of this.
	They already run their money, they run everything, the Chinese are in there.
	Well, you know, there you go.
	This is something we could do.
	What if we found a particularly perfect African country that is being harassed by China and we build a theater of war there?
	You could even make up an African country, no one would know.
	The Chinese scamper, they're not dumb.
	If you recall during the Libyan conflagration around Tripoli, there was this huge series, it was like a giant mall of Chinese buildings that were being built.
	China was moving in on Libya, something that wasn't discussed too much even on the show, even though we talked about this.
	And they just took off.
	When that war broke out, there wasn't one Chinese left in the whole country.
	It's like, no, we're out of here.
	We got other things to do.
	So they just shut out of there.
	I just like to figure it out.
	You know, what are they going to do?
	How will this end?
	They keep saying, whatever it takes will go forever.
	Nothing's going to stop.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	But then, you know, they want to rebuild.
	So what is the signal?
	Well, you know, you could rubble ice a little more.
	Well, yes, but you still... The longer you do it, the more rebuilding they'll take.
	I understand.
	But how come we can't figure out the stop moment?
	It really must not be there yet.
	Even though Ursula herself is saying, oh, the long reconstruction.
	It'll take quite a while, but we'll get there.
	We'll have to do it.
	I don't know, man.
	They're keeping it pretty close to the chest.
	All right, let's go to Chinese warship concerns.
	This is interesting.
	Oh, I see two clips at the exact same time.
	Not liking that, but okay.
	I'll play the first one then.
	In the blue waters of the South Pacific, the French military spotted a Chinese warship.
	This warship appeared near French Polynesia on December 22nd last year.
	A group of islands in the South Pacific Ocean.
	A week later, the French military again snapped photos of a Chinese warship, this time near New Caledonia, a French territory in the Southwest Pacific, over 700 miles east of Australia.
	It's unclear if it's the same warship that emerged earlier.
	Captain James Fennell is the former Director of Intelligence and Information Operations for the U.S.
	Pacific Fleet.
	He said having this warship out in the South Pacific demonstrates how China is pushing its military modernization forward.
	The PLA leadership feels confident that their platforms are able to transit long distances What's unusual about this warship is that by the time it was spotted, it was over 6,000 miles away from its home base.
	That's beyond the range a missile destroyer of this scale could sustain without a refueling ship following behind.
	Their ships have the capacity to transit these long distances and I think that's something that also Americans should understand is that we hear conflicting reports from so-called experts who talk about the inferiority of PLA Navy warships and that they don't have long range and that's actually not true.
	But Fanow said there's another possibility.
	Their diplomatic efforts in establishing relations And improve relations with a number of nations in the South Pacific has enabled them to be able to transit out there without an oiler that would go with them to ensure that they always had fuel.
	So what do you think this is about then?
	I think it's just some lone ship floating around, you know, checking things out.
	It's just a small destroyer with a missile destroyer.
	And they say there's a number of things that were odd about the report.
	One is that, oh, the French guy took a photo.
	He saw it.
	You know, are you telling me that the thousands of satellites that we have aren't tracking every single ship that China has on the Pacific Ocean?
	You'd think so.
	I would think so.
	It's never mentioned in this report.
	Now, there's more information if the second half of this report is actually the second half.
	For example, the president of the Philippines visited Chinese leader Xi Jinping last week.
	The two countries published a joint statement, pledging to boost cooperation.
	So it's entirely possible that there was a port call by a Chinese warship in somewhere in the Philippines.
	And as I mentioned previously, it's possible also that they could have stopped somewhere else along the way, Vanuatu.
	Uh, Kiribati, probably not Kiribati because they don't have a lot of resources there, but the Solomons is also one.
	Beijing has been competing for clout in the South Pacific.
	Several countries there have cut off diplomatic relations with Taiwan and recognized Beijing instead.
	The Solomon Islands is one of them.
	The same day the French military saw the Chinese warship near New Caledonia, a Chinese aircraft carrier group ashed close to Guam.
	That's according to Beijing's official mouthpiece Global Times.
	The island of Guam is a U.S.
	territory and the site of a major military base.
	It's home to air force and naval facilities.
	It's also a critical hub for submarine communications cables between the Western US, Hawaii, Australia and Asia.
	So I think what we're seeing now is these are indicators of the PLA Navy resuming its pursuit and its strategic trend line of becoming a global naval force.
	He noted that having a global naval force is critical for Beijing's global economic outreach.
	Having a big navy that can be able to ensure that their ability to transport goods and services across the oceans of the world to extend this Belt and Road Initiative that extends China's economic power to assure that they have access to these resources is the main goal.
	Yeah, that's the Belt and Road Strategy, and have your spots around the world where you can refuel.
	Hello!
	Everyone knows this is happening.
	So those two clips were exactly the same.
	Exactly the same length.
	I know.
	I don't think I've ever accomplished that before.
	You're a genius.
	And that's why we call this the best podcast in the universe.
	Now, before we go to our break, a quick word about Value for Value.
	For 15 years, this program has been running on value for value.
	The concept being, if you get value from listening to anything that we do, and it could be you just laughed, maybe you found a friend, maybe a new relationship, maybe you went to a meetup, maybe you had found something worth investing, whatever it is, you just turn that into a number and send it back to us.
	And that has worked very well for us for, I mean, as well as we could want.
	I mean, we have a consistent job.
	I'm very happy.
	I love what I do.
	Something interesting happened the past couple of days with Steven Crowder.
	Did you follow this at all?
	Because a lot of people were tagging us.
	Yeah, you know, I never watched Crowder, but I was watching this and I think I made a comment on the No Agenda Social.
	He looks like and sounds like Ron Burgundy.
	Well, yes.
	I wasn't going there, but he does.
	He's very pumped up.
	He's very pumped up.
	So he's a, he's a, I didn't know that he was originally a comedian.
	I didn't know that.
	And what I like, what I've like Crowder, I like his change my mind stuff where he goes out with a table and he, you know, he makes a statement.
	Oh, yes.
	That's a good bit.
	That's a great bit.
	It's a very good bit.
	So apparently he was with the blaze and he left the blaze and he did this segment, which I saw on YouTube.
	So he's still on, I thought he was kicked off YouTube, but he's still always back on YouTube.
	I'm not sure exactly what's happening.
	And was very unhappy about what he calls big con as in big conservative.
	And he, and he showed this contract.
	Redacted.
	And the contract said something to the effect of, okay, and this was either a renewal contract or a new contract.
	He was saying, I'm not going to call him, which kind of pissed me off.
	Like, well, if you're going to show contracts, why don't you tell us who it is?
	So we're all guessing, you know, is this from the blaze?
	Most people are just wasting their time guessing.
	Right.
	Is it from Rumble?
	I mean, who knows?
	But he was mad because he says, the big conservative, they just want to control messaging as well.
	And it was a very interesting take.
	He showed the contract that said, if your show was taken off YouTube, then we cut 20% of the money we pay you.
	If the show was taken off Apple... They had actual numbers on there.
	They were in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	As well.
	How much are they paying this guy?
	Well, interesting you asked that, because an answer came back.
	And again, you know, we're thinking like, you know, this is the Blaze or something, or actually I thought it would be Rumble, you know, because I know that, you know, they're paying Glenn Greenwald and all kinds of other people.
	And just before I continue into the next part, Everyone's tagging us, going, value for value is the way to go, man, you should do it, value for value, totally cool, you can do it.
	And I'm sure he has the Mug Club or something, I'm sure he could totally do that.
	He could absolutely, he has the audience, he has the momentum, he could do value for value.
	And your question was answered last night.
	Apparently, this contract came from the Daily Wire.
	Yeah, that's what a lot of people guessed.
	And Jeremy Boring, the CEO, I have this 41-second clip.
	He said, you know, let me just read to you the contract, which was just an opening negotiation.
	This was not the set and, you know, the done deal.
	This was just to get him to the table.
	Yeah, and let me mention something here and interrupt before you start that.
	It was the dummy contract.
	He's bitching on his show, this Crowder guy, moaning and groaning about the dummy contract.
	Anyone who's worked with contracts, you always throw a stupidest contract out there to see if someone's going to sign it.
	There's usually zero pushback on any changes you want to make.
	I've done this in the book business where you go in there and the guy throws the dummy contract at you and you say, you take a big mark and say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and no, and you give it back to him and they go, okay.
	It's not even a negotiation.
	It's like a game.
	Can you spot the bull crap in the dummy contract?
	It seems to me as though he's never seen a dummy contract or even knows what it is.
	Or whoever was reviewing it for him because in this, I think, 30 minute video, Boring says exactly that.
	He said, you know, this was just, we made a stab.
	This is just, you know, this is our opening.
	It was just to get Crowder to the table.
	They sent it to his agent.
	Now, the thing that's interesting about this and Tina has a different, she's with him on this, which was interesting because I just see it differently, that Crowder is saying the way this contract reads, they're in bed with big tech, they want to censor my speech because if I say something wrong and I'm kicked off of YouTube, Spotify, Apple, or I think Facebook,
	They're going to dock my money.
	They're going to take my pay away.
	So his conclusion was, they're just trying to curtail my speech.
	Which is why everyone said, dude, go value for value.
	What's your problem?
	That makes sense.
	No one can curtail your speech.
	You can say whatever you want.
	And maybe even stop doing video.
	Just do audio.
	So that was his take, as he said that, you know, clearly the Daily Wire was in bed with big tech to censor him by docking his pay, which would make him unable to speak.
	How do you read that?
	That's what he said.
	I'm pretty sure that's what he was saying, even though he should have said big tech's in bed with big banking, because that's where there's a lot of money involved.
	Okay, so here's the end to the shaggy dog story.
	Let's find out what the offer was.
	Opening offer of the dummy contract.
	And so here we go.
	Here was our offer.
	A four-year initial term with two-year renewal at DW's sole discretion.
	That just means Stephen's going to work for DW for four years.
	And if it's going really well, DW can retain him for an additional two years.
	You want to take a guess yet?
	Five million a year.
	Two, the fee.
	Remember, this is the minimum number that we thought would get the conversation started with Steven.
	$50 million for the initial term, plus $25 million for the renewal term, if extended, paid in monthly installments.
	Like I say, a pretty big number, but we thought, for a talent like Steven, this is probably the minimum number that's gonna get us in the door so that we can sit down and talk to him.
	Fifty million.
	Fifty million for what?
	What are we doing wrong?
	Hello, Jeremy.
	Hello, Jeremy.
	Daily Wire, we're available.
	Fifty million.
	That's funny.
	And then he's bitching about it.
	This is the funny thing about it.
	You see this with people that somehow they get caught up in some other world, in some other dimension, and the numbers don't match normal numbers.
	And then they get haughty about it.
	50 million is all they want to give me?
	Well, his point was, whatever you're making, if we had to be docked a total, I think it was like 60% could be docked if he was de-platformed everywhere except the Daily Wire website.
	That's still $6 million a year.
	That's a lot of dollars!
	And he's complaining.
	I don't know.
	I was shocked by that.
	Like, I understand, like, you know, if it's, you know, it's like half a million and you got to pay your crew, or maybe a million you got to pay your crew, because I think that's included in it.
	And then you get docked.
	It's like, but man, I mean...
	I have to say I see it from the Daily Wire's perspective.
	They make their money by selling ads that then are carried on iTunes and Spotify and YouTube, you know, ad reads and everything.
	Yeah, the funny thing is I noticed a thing in there about the ad.
	He has to be sincere or something in his ad reads.
	There was some note about that in there.
	So, bottom line is, I'm actually happy we don't have, because he has to do 196 shows a year, and now he has to be careful of what he says if he doesn't want to hurt his own pocketbook, I guess.
	It sounds like a raw deal.
	It sounds like it's great with all this money, but I think I would prefer value for value, mainly because we have no meetings.
	We have no advertiser suck-up jobs to do.
	Yeah, that's really a pain in the ass, but for 50 million bucks, I think you could stomach it.
	No.
	It's only a four-year deal, so it's like over $10 million a year to suck up on some guy.
	Hey, how you doing?
	No.
	Hey, yeah, I like that suit.
	I couldn't do it.
	You could.
	That's nice.
	You know, where'd you get those cufflinks?
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say, in the morning, to the man who put the C's in the Big Kong contract, which is a dummy one, ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend, Mr. John C. DeMorais!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships at sea.
	Boats on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to our trolls in the troll room who've been hanging out, working with us, trolling along, doing all the stuff that they need to do, which is mainly trolling.
	And we had a problem this morning with the troll counter.
	It was broken.
	It was returning zero.
	So let's see how we do today.
	Count is 1831.
	Could be.
	We're not sure if it's correct, but it seems to be working now.
	Seems to be working.
	1831.
	Sounds low.
	It's broken then.
	Obviously broken.
	Everything's low these days.
	It's January.
	It's what happens.
	Those are the trolls which you can join in the troll room troll room dot IO you can listen live to the To the stream and you get the the troll room right there.
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	Newpodcastapps.com.
	And we also have noagendasocial.com, which, as you heard, is where John is posting things.
	So you would want to follow John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com.
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	If you can't answer them, no joy for you.
	Thank you to our artists for episode 1521.
	We titled that the Health Scare System.
	Which we thought was quite cute.
	And Capitalist Agenda brought us just a groovy piece of art, the No Agenda Super Shot, which is a total cartoon drawing of a triple-headed syringe.
	In beautiful, comedic, comic book colors.
	It just jumped off the page.
	I think we were in agreement pretty quickly, if I recall.
	Yeah, there wasn't anything to compete with it.
	Just some other stuff that was interesting.
	Well, we were sad about the...
	The Corvette Classified.
	Roundy did a Corvette Classified.
	First of all, the Corvette and Biden with the documents flying out had been done several times, but it was too... I think the comment was, it's too bad they didn't do a little more of the Corvette logo.
	There could have been something even more fun, not just adding the word classified.
	Yeah, that was... Well, it didn't have any oomph.
	We're looking for oomph, people.
	We're looking for oomph.
	We're looking for oomph.
	There was some egg.
	Roundy has been mellowed out by some woman friend, I believe.
	DC girl has mellowed him?
	Is that what you're saying?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I don't feel like doing any art.
	Honey, what are you doing?
	I'm doing art.
	Come back to bed!
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	So, uh, yeah, there wasn't anything else that was, uh, competitive with the triple jab, which was kind of a funny piece.
	It was a good piece.
	I did use, uh, another piece for the, uh, I used Joey's files.
	And the filing cabinet?
	For the newsletter, because of course the newsletter was kind of about skiffs and had a long briefing from one of our producers about how classified information is supposed to be kept.
	Even though I did get a note this morning from another producer who worked in intelligence and says, ah, that's bullshit, blah, blah, blah, and he has a whole bunch of corrections.
	Oh, for the next newsletter?
	Not major, but... For the next newsletter?
	It'll come, it'll eventually be used somehow.
	But, so Joey's files, which is a Darren O'Neill throwaway.
	I don't want to call it that.
	Throwaway.
	But it's a Darren O'Neill.
	Thanks, Darren.
	Darren has these, he's like, ah, he's like the, he's the perfect guy in an advertising agency to just get something done.
	Yeah.
	It's functional.
	Very functional.
	It's functional, it's good.
	It's not like crap.
	No, no, it's very usable.
	Yeah, it's very usable.
	It's the one you show the client as the second choice.
	We have this, we have this, then they pick it.
	Thank you very much, Capitalist Agenda and all of the artists who do this phenomenal work.
	You can follow them at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Almost 30,000 pieces now.
	When did we start with the Art Generator?
	Was that early on?
	This is the second iteration.
	We had a previous Art Generator.
	That was done by Randy and, it wasn't Paul, it was somebody else.
	Was that in the beginning, early on?
	Yeah, it was the very beginning when we started doing art.
	Somebody immediately, the guys who did all the initial art, there's two guys, and they did, they created this little website where they kept putting the art up and we could pick from it.
	And then Couture decided at some point that it was too, kind of exclusive I guess and he anyone could do it but it wasn't a very it wasn't a slick site like this one it was probably also a femoral screw that yeah let's do something better and it was way you know it was I think couple hundred shows in before this one came up yeah once we lost that original art oh we lost a lot of early show stuff remember drop.io
	Vaguely, yeah.
	Yeah, it was like, that was where we were saving the show notes, Drop.io, and the clips and art, and then one day we woke up and it had been purchased by Facebook and they shut it down.
	Yeah, that's what's so great about technology.
	We couldn't get anything back, and like... Hey, create for life!
	We're never doing that again, is what we thought.
	Thank you again, Capitalist Agenda, all of the artists, it's highly appreciated.
	We believe that It really helps in people discovering the show.
	It's something pretty to look at when we post it on social media.
	It's inviting, people want to click on it, and we think it's contributed enormously to the show.
	So it is value for value, which consists of time, talent, and treasure.
	And the treasure today comes from our executive and associate executive producers.
	We kick it off with Patrick Remensberger.
	Remensberger from Sherman Oaks, California.
	And he comes in with $365 in the morning.
	Gentlemen, thank you for your service.
	Record this donation on behalf of my partner, Joey.
	Uh, now that's Y-O-Y-I, Joey.
	She's a big fan, listens with me all the- Joe G. Joe G. Oh, Joe G. I'm sorry.
	Uh, listens with me all the time, but not on her own.
	Okay?
	And then he says, uh, de-doucher?
	Oh, sure.
	You've been de-douched.
	Anyway, NA together and stay together.
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	Now, does this mean it's a switcheroo?
	Record this donation on behalf of my partner, Joji.
	So I think we have to give it to Joji, don't we?
	On behalf, yeah, might as well.
	I think it's a Joji.
	Although in my estimation that when you have this, you just put Patrick and Joji just in case.
	Okay.
	And Joji.
	Consider it done.
	All right.
	Excellent.
	Next on the list is Jonathan Daniel in Demarest, Georgia.
	And he says, it's 350 bucks, and he says, Happy New Year from the North Georgia footballs.
	Foothills.
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	I always think of football and I think of Georgia.
	Please accept this donation for helping to keep my sanity over these winter months.
	Can I get a Jobs Karma while I navigate the layoff-ridden tech industry?
	Thanks for all you do.
	Peace out!
	I was reading that Amazon is letting yet another 18,000 people go.
	Cool.
	I have a clip for all this.
	Oh, let's do it.
	Since we're here, why not?
	Let's turn this into content.
	Yeah, it's a layoff.
	Let me see.
	I don't see.
	Yeah, economics, layoffs.
	Got it.
	Managers at tech companies went on a frenzy of hiring to satisfy demand for their products during the height of the pandemic.
	Now, those at Microsoft have joined others in laying off employees, cutting 10,000 jobs.
	CEO Satya Nadella says he's seen customers change how they spend their money.
	He says some parts of the world are already in recession and organizations in every industry are exercising caution.
	He says the decisions to reduce the workforce are difficult but necessary.
	Executives at other technology companies have made similar decisions over the past several months.
	Those at Amazon plan to lay off about 18,000 employees.
	Those at Facebook's parent company, Meta Platforms, about 11,000.
	And those at Salesforce, about 8,000.
	Microsoft this morning, 10,000.
	And I think the Amazon, it's 18,000 times 2.
	The joke is, Amazon makes nothing but sense.
	During the lockdowns and all the rest of it, people were ordering a lot of stuff.
	They weren't going out.
	Some stores were closed.
	But Microsoft, what's the lockdown got to do with anything or the COVID have to do with anything they're up to?
	I don't think the problem is COVID.
	I think the problem is recession.
	It has nothing to do with COVID, unless you want to say COVID was the instigator of the recession.
	So that's about 60,000 tech workers.
	And it's not people at the Amazon warehouse.
	You know, if they're smart, it's probably middle management, HR.
	Yeah, middle management is always bloated in all these tech companies.
	Yeah, get rid of them.
	They just have bloat.
	They have nothing but bloat and then they use any excuse they can to get rid of them when there's kind of a clean sweep.
	The problem I've always had is they don't even do a good job of it.
	They just take a group and get rid of them.
	Yeah, well, it's going to be interesting in your area.
	In fact, I think it was exhibited best by Elon Musk.
	Yeah.
	He's just firing people willy-nilly.
	He has no idea what any of them did.
	Remember when it was, Twitter's gonna, it's gonna fall over!
	It'll shut down tomorrow!
	Nope, didn't happen.
	Anyway, here is your jobs request.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Karma.
	Uh, Commas in Common Meetup.
	This is from Monroe, Washington.
	333-33.
	Switcheroo donation!
	Dale Musco won the raffle.
	Alright, so we gotta put Dale in here.
	Dale Musco won the raffle for the Executive Producer donation at the Commas in Common Meetup.
	It says, Dame Lady, get over it.
	Well, that's cool.
	So, you got your... This is nice.
	I like that.
	So they have a raffle and then a raffle and whoever wins gets the executive producership.
	You got it, Dale.
	Congratulations.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you everybody there.
	Commas in common.
	I've got Sarah Warner in Austin, Texas.
	You must know her.
	She's in Austin, Texas.
	You were in Austin once.
	Doesn't everybody know everybody?
	Thanks for being part of the cure to my liberal brainwashing.
	Boy, have I changed y'all.
	And you all helped me feel, uh... Sane.
	Something.
	Sane.
	I lost it.
	Sane.
	Insane.
	Cheers.
	Thank you, Sarah.
	I need a lozenge.
	Yes, you get a lozenge.
	Sir CB is in Harris, Minnesota, 33333.
	It is our favorite executive producer donation.
	In the morning, gents, just a reminder that Goat Karma producer's local 33 winter warm-up is this Friday.
	Join us at... Oh, it's a promo.
	Join us at the Cornerstone Pub and Prime.
	If you please, health, karma, and an F-cancer for Becky.
	Keep up the good work, boys.
	Sir CB, Knight of the Black Thumbnails, and he's a ham as well.
	73s, he says.
	KD0 Victor Juliet X-ray.
	73s.
	Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	You've got karma. .
	Dave Schwain back in McHenry, Illinois, 333.
	I look for a note from him.
	I couldn't find anything under his last name.
	There's definitely no donation, a note.
	Uh, I don't know.
	Maybe he's probably using a different name.
	I'm pretty sure something came through, but I don't have it.
	So I'm a double up karma.
	You got it.
	You've got Karma.
	And here we have a 320, and it's similar to the one we just heard about.
	This is the Indy No Agenda January Meetup, Greenwood, Indiana, $320.
	Switcheroo donation for Drew Williams, who was the raffle winner.
	I like this.
	I like this idea.
	The raffle winner for executive producer and knighthood.
	There you go.
	So we have Drew Williams on deck.
	Congratulations, sir.
	Sir Scott is in Austin, Texas.
	This is our first Associate Executive Producer donation, $2.55.
	My keeper and I held a raffle at the NA Local 5-12 January 14th meetup for anyone who made a meetup day donation to get a raffle ticket.
	Because my fall deer hunting had kept us from hosting a meetup from October through December, the raffle prizes were all kinds of venison goodies from my hunting harvest.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	We asked the attendees to make any donations so that they could afford to receive a raffle drawing ticket.
	We collected $2.55 in cash on the day of the meetup, delivered via this PayPal donation.
	So with this donation, and the other attendees' donations credited in $15.21... Ah, that's when you scoffed at them.
	I did.
	Yes, the total is over $300.
	He says, and worthy of an executive producership for show 1522.
	So for who is it then?
	Sir Scott.
	No, who got the raffle?
	Sir Scott.
	No, he didn't win the raffle, he organized the meetup.
	That doesn't mean he didn't win the raffle, this could be rigged.
	Drew Williams is the indie guy, so... It's the NA Local 512 Group.
	There you go.
	That's... I understand it now.
	Okay.
	We'll put it there.
	You got it.
	No problem.
	James Van Winsburg in Ruckersville, Virginia.
	222.22.
	Row of ducks for an early annual donation.
	Could use some Florida job-getting and land-buying, Karma.
	Thank you for your courage, gentlemen.
	ITM.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Karma.
	And next up, Rita Harrington, Sparks, Nevada, 203.33 in the morning.
	John and Adam, many thanks for your time and talent of media deconstruction with a sense of humor weaved in.
	Please play Bulldog Karma jingle for all producers and listeners.
	We've got...
	Karma.
	Bye.
	Music Garrett Hampton in Pooler, Georgia.
	200.
	He'll be the last associate executive producer for Show 1522.
	And he writes, no agenda homeschoolers.
	Join us for the Homegrown Generation Family Expo, March 6th through 9th at homegrowngeneration.com.
	It's a live online homeschool conference.
	Listeners save $10 with the coupon code NA.
	And a portion goes to support No Agenda.
	Well, that's cool.
	Excellent.
	Well, let me just thank these people and remind them that these Executive and Associate Executive Producerships are real credits, forever credits.
	You can use them anywhere.
	Put them on IMDB, have a search and see who else is there.
	You'll be amazed.
	A lot of heavy hitters in Hollywood use them as well, because they're real.
	Not like some bullcrap thing.
	This is a real... You get the credit on the show page, etc.
	And we really appreciate that.
	So we will vouch for you if anyone questions that.
	They're happy to do that.
	And if you'd like to learn more about these and if you'd like to support the show, go here.
	And now we'll just continue to go through it since everything is kind of light this month.
	Starting with Jim Cushman who actually came up and bumped up to it with $198.92.
	He won't be a douchebag.
	He says it's in Durango, Iowa for his first meetup in Iowa.
	Then Zach in Nebraska comes in with $112.35 with a note which I do want to look at because along with the... I'll read the note.
	Encloses a genuine Union Pacific Railroad badge for JCD.
	Nice!
	That I found at a pawn shop in Omaha.
	So can you impersonate an official now?
	Hey, get off the tracks!
	So he also mentioned, Zach in Nebraska, he also mentioned that he's the one Oh, he gave you that horrible thing.
	The little ocarina, little bitty thing, made out of a rock, or something.
	And I've always wondered who sent that in, and now I know.
	Sir Lainhart in Buford, Georgia comes in with a hundred bucks with a birthday for someone.
	Shauna Benson in Smithville, Texas, a hundred.
	Jeremy Hirschman in Sheboygan.
	Sheboygan, Wisconsin, 8008.
	There you go, tits.
	And then Infinus Medical Technologies in Holly Springs, North Carolina, 8008.
	He says he's matching the amazing North Carolina lover of American boobs.
	And that's Sir Kevin McLaughlin, who's also on this list from Locust, North Carolina.
	8-0-0-8.
	71-10 comes from Ed Warner in Glacier, Washington.
	Raymond Bressler in Arlington, Washington.
	69-96 comes in monthly with that.
	Dijan Katic.
	Dijan Katic in Belgrade.
	Oh, that's nice.
	62-21 with a note.
	He needs an F cancer karma, or she, and writes by E from Belgrade.
	Kevin, you put an F cancer at the end for you.
	I will, I will.
	Kevin O'Brien, Chicago, Illinois, 6006.
	Mark Empson in Plainville, Connecticut, 5678.
	Richard Futter in London, UK, 5510.
	James Schwartz in Madison, South Carolina, 5510.
	Dean Roker, 5510.
	Daniel Mariano in Pflugerville, Texas, 5510.
	I don't know what all these are about.
	5150 from Sir Austin in Sammamish, Washington.
	Clark Wallace in St. Thomas, Ontario, Canada, 5005, which cost him 70 bucks, he mentions.
	Sir John in Heber Springs, Arkansas, $50.33.
	Sir Kyle in Bertram, Texas, $50.01.
	And the following people are $50 donors, name and location, GadgetFreak, at the top of the list.
	Western Springs, Illinois.
	Andrew Gusick, Sir Andrew in Greensboro, North Carolina.
	James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey.
	Joe Oswald in Lithia, Florida.
	Josh Adair in Apo, APO, I mean.
	APO box somewhere.
	John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
	Richard Apo.
	Richard, Richard Bowersox in Cedar Springs, Iowa.
	Stephen Shoemake in Zinnia, Ohio.
	Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida.
	Eric Hoff in Edmonton, California.
	William Wild in Baltimore, Maryland.
	Peter Odo in Ridge, New York.
	Nathan Cochran, good list of 50s today, in Franklin, Tennessee.
	Alexander Verdejo in Gig Harbor, Washington.
	And last on the list, Scott Lavender, our buddy in Montgomery, Texas.
	Sir Scott, I want to thank them all for helping us out on this show.
	Everybody, show 1522.
	And of course, we thank everyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity.
	We don't mention them below that.
	I see you $49.99.
	I got you.
	A couple of them there.
	Also, it's people on our sustaining donations, which we appreciate very much.
	These are smaller amounts that come back regularly that you put on your PayPal or on your card.
	It really does help out on days like this or months like this, to be honest.
	And we appreciate it.
	And as requested, an F-cancer.
	And thank you again for supporting your No Agenda show.
	You've got karma. .
	And a reminder, this is exactly what Value for Value is about.
	We love that you support us.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I'm so a champion.
	Now we've got a good list for birthdays.
	Rick Gabriel wishes his wife, Rachel Gabriel, a happy birthday.
	She celebrated on the 16th, so it's belated.
	David Bazor, happy birthday to his son, Caleb.
	A happy birthday for him, he turned 19 today.
	James Smarts wishes his smoking hot wife, Amanda, a happy birthday.
	She'll be 33 on January 20th.
	Sir Leinhard wants to add his first human resource, Elliot, to the birthday list.
	She was born two days ago, January 17th.
	Happy birthday and welcome, Human Resource.
	Kate Fiss, happy birthday to her dear deduce friend, Melanie Lawson.
	50 Trips Around the Sun on the 23rd, and DJ Powerboy turns 49 on Monday.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Yes, I believe we have a note for this.
	I kind of did it out of order, but we do have a title change.
	Sir Thirsty becomes a baronet today, thanks to his upping his support in another, an additional $1,000 to the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Let me get to these.
	Yes, his note here.
	It is, may it pleaseth the peerage committee to vouch safe that I, Sir Thirsty, have reached baronet status at the Noah-Jenner Roundtable.
	Took nine years and five months to go from knight to baronet.
	Mostly with five dollars per month to PayPal automatic payment.
	So take no trolls and douchebags.
	It can be done.
	This is very nice.
	Thank you so much, sir.
	Derek Bali.
	Rhymes with jolly.
	Sir Thirsty.
	Make good for Rick Gabriel for show 1522.
	Greetings, gents.
	This donation of $3.56 is a switcheroo from myself, Rick Gabriel, lover of Rachel's boobs, to my wife, Rachel Gabriel.
	This donation was my gift for her January 16th birthday and for her much-needed de-douching.
	The significance of the donation number is that it commemorates our first date on March 5th, 2006.
	Listening to No Agenda together these past three years has opened a new dimension of bonding for us.
	Being outraged together about world events and laughing together through it all, No Agenda has definitely helped our sanity.
	Yes, if you're here for outrage, no, we're going to help you laugh about it.
	That's exactly right.
	So she's happy belated birthday, Rachel.
	You are the best.
	Thanks we much, Rick Gabriel.
	And he wants a double up jingle.
	We got that for him.
	You bet.
	You've got karma.
	And while we're on it, we have an F-cancer.
	Emergency request for Baron Roll SK's mom.
	You've got karma.
	I really am not digging all the F-cancers these days.
	It's a lot.
	I don't like that at all.
	What I do like is one knight on deck.
	Dale Mazzucco, I think, is who we have here.
	This is a one knight blade necessary.
	You can bring yours out if you have it handy.
	Oh, here you go.
	Oh.
	Look at afterthought.
	Okay.
	It was on the floor.
	Dale Mazzucco!
	Muzzico.
	How about that?
	Muzzico.
	Sounds better.
	Up on the podium, sir.
	Thank you very much for your support of the Noah Jenner Show and the amount of $1,000.
	And I am hereby very proud to pronounce to Kate the Sir Dale Muzzico, Knight of the Red Tail Ranch.
	For you, sir, we have hookers and blows straight from Davos.
	Rent Boys Chardonnay, if that happens to be your fancy.
	We also have warm beer and some cold women.
	Chico and tequila.
	Chiquitos and tequila.
	Uh, diet soda, video games, we got fish pie and fellatio, we have harlots and haldol, pepperoni rolls, pale ales, we have mustacholi and margaritas, red heads and ryes, we got beer and blunts, we got geishas and sake, of course!
	We got your mutton and mead right here, and it's just you munching on the mutton and mead.
	Please go to NoahGenTheNation.com slash rings and give us your size of your finger, on the finger you want to wear the ring, and where we can send it to.
	And you will also receive, besides this handsome signet ring, you will receive sealing wax for which to seal your important correspondence with your ring, and a certificate of authenticity.
	Someone he I guess we're sending out the the sealing wax and it comes with its own little stamp and Someone was very confused.
	They said, you know, I got I got the I got everything got my ring But but then the stamp is like it's George Washington George Washington.
	What are you talking about?
	so I guess we send a Like I guess the sealing wax comes with its own little George Washington stamp.
	Have you heard about this?
	I No, I've heard about somebody and they sent a picture.
	I have no idea what that's all about.
	Maybe it's just part of the ceiling racks package.
	That's what I'm thinking it is.
	Because I think it's new.
	Yeah, I was like, wait a minute.
	That's not our ring.
	That better not be our ring.
	I hope we have the ITM and the whole hit him in the mouth in Latin.
	Apparently, we do.
	It's all good.
	Thank you.
	You're giving out bonuses.
	I'm sorry?
	Bonus.
	It's a bonus.
	Yeah, it's a bonus in your package.
	Absolutely.
	No one should have beat up.
	Only one report for today, and it's longer than usual, but it does.
	Could you really stop doing that?
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	It's good when you do accents, but when you're just playing, you forget that you're on the show.
	And it sounds like... Do I get carried away?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Here's the meetup report from Indiana.
	Hi, this is Mark.
	And this is Maria.
	Happy New Year, John and Adam.
	Stay safe.
	Hi, I'm Angelica from West Lafayette.
	I'm here with Mark and Maria, and I'm looking forward to the next meeting.
	Love you!
	Hi guys, my name's Chelsea, and I am serving all these beautiful people at Blind Al Brewery here.
	I'm so excited to listen to this podcast.
	Mike the Polymath.
	I haven't been able to afford eggs for months.
	Hey, this is Cindy from Carmel.
	Welcome to all the spooks from St.
	Louis and Fort Wayne to our meetup.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Hey, this is Nick from Indy.
	We're ready to open up peace talks with Fort Wayne.
	Let's meet at a Taco Bell.
	This is Mike from Fort Wayne.
	The Indy group is now merged up with the Fort Wayne group and much like Pinky and the Brain, we're going to take over the world.
	This is Shannon Dimport here from Fort Wayne, checking out the indie group.
	It's a pretty good group, I do believe.
	We're working on our hooey-hooey, not to be confused with the hokey-pokey.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	It's Zach, and I am the spook from St.
	Louis.
	Bruce here, just drinking some beers.
	Drew Williams from Carmel, Indiana.
	In the morning.
	Nodder from Indianapolis.
	I got the cough, but not the coof.
	In the morning.
	Sir Benny here, just having a wonderful time with a whole bunch of fantastic people.
	In the morning, this is PBR Street King still looking for my next mission.
	Hi, in the morning, this is Dame Trinity in Indianapolis having a great time.
	Thank you for your courage.
	This is Emily.
	I caught the vocal fry in the morning.
	Hi, this is Sir Robert of Mulberry living the international value for value lifestyle.
	Hi, this is Linda in the morning.
	This is Spencer.
	My kitchen is full of eggs.
	Every drawer is full of eggs.
	The trunk of my car is full of eggs.
	My pockets are full of eggs.
	What do I do with all these eggs, John?
	Who can afford eggs?
	Hi, it's Gary from Greenwood.
	I'm so glad the honeybees got a vaccine.
	The bee population started dying out with 3G.
	I hope that the vaccine will keep them from dying from a 6G, which is ready to roll out.
	Watch your reaction to that.
	Breaking, breaking!
	This is Guzman of the Midwest, and this meetup was awesome!
	It is the morning!
	Whew!
	I'm tired just from listening to it.
	That's a- it's long, but man, a lot of cool people.
	How many people were there?
	It sounds like half of them were from the CIA.
	It's a meeting, a meetup, you know, this is what they do.
	A lot of people.
	It's a very big group.
	So that's definitely one that we're going to go attend one of these days.
	Thank you very much, Indiana.
	Let's see what's going on.
	As we speak, there's a brand new meetup announced, which seems like you would want to announce these things a little bit earlier on.
	But okay, Scott the Jew came in with the Thursday, North Idaho Sanity Brigade, third Thursday meetup, five o'clock.
	That's today, so you can still get there.
	That's Pacific Time, and that's Post Falls, Idaho.
	The New Year New Amygdala Cleanse, 6.33, that is in just a few hours from now, that'll be in Petersburg, Ontario, Canada, McThirsty's Pub.
	Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday.
	Ha!
	I can do it.
	Their monthly meetup, seven o'clock, two night.
	Ed's Tavern, Charlotte, North Carolina.
	Shot Show, Shit Show, 730 Pacific, Gillies at Treasure Island, Las Vegas, Nevada.
	Yeah, there's a big... The Shot Show is the big gun show out there.
	So people are getting together.
	That's kind of cool.
	Goat Karma produces Local 33, the winter warm-up.
	That'll be held tomorrow at the Cornerstone Pub and Prime, Wyoming, Minnesota.
	Nuts, we heard that earlier from Sir CB.
	We have the Pizza Time meet-up, 1 o'clock Pacific, on Saturday.
	Round Table Pizza, Los Baños, California.
	Also on Saturday, the Shrunken Amygdala Support Group, 2 o'clock at Taft's Brewporium, Cincinnati, Ohio.
	Flight of the No Agenda meet-up on Saturday.
	It's number 36 already, 333 Pacific.
	Homebound Brewhouse in Los Angeles, California.
	Gitmo Vino and Pizza, four o'clock central.
	Park Farm Winery, Durango, Iowa.
	And we got a lot more coming up, all the way through March, actually.
	So if you want to find out where you can meet people, That will be like you, which is nothing like you, but you have one thing in common.
	If you're looking for community, if you're looking for family, you are welcome.
	Incels, introverts, everybody.
	Too tall, too short.
	We're a fantastic looking group.
	Anywhere you can find the No Agenda Meetup, you're going to love it.
	And if you can't find one near you, start one yourself.
	Noagendameetups.com.
	Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.
	I wanted to mention something.
	Last night we had dinner.
	They were in Texas with Chris and Anamika.
	I wanted to mention something.
	Last night we had dinner.
	They were in Texas with Chris and Anamika.
	They are long-term, no-agenda producers.
	And so they came to Texas and went to Costco because he had heard of this fantastic wine that cost $7.
	and I had some last night, and I wanted to pass it on to you.
	Thank you.
	Because this may be one of those Easter eggs.
	You ready?
	It's the Kirkland Signature Bordeaux Superior 2020.
	Yeah.
	Have you tried this one?
	It's got the dark blue label?
	Yes!
	Well, this is the one we mention every year.
	No wonder, no wonder.
	It's not like it's a big shocker to anybody.
	Well, it was to me.
	I have copies of it.
	They don't do them in bad years, which is interesting because in 2017 it was never released.
	Excuse me.
	2020 has not shown up here.
	I am always on the lookout for this particular wine.
	It's usually $6.98, which is seven bucks.
	I think that Costco bought this Chateau because it's the same Chateau.
	If you look very carefully on the label at the very bottom, the name of the Chateau appears.
	And it's a very small four-point type.
	It's a dynamite wine.
	It's always been.
	Really, really nice.
	Now, I just want to... I always get a case every year.
	I don't even taste it.
	Boom, case, I'm in.
	So he's your level, man.
	He knows about this stuff.
	I mean, maybe he heard about it on the show, but I forget about these things.
	It was really nice.
	You know what he... Yeah, it's a very good one.
	What he got us for dinner?
	He bought the Robert Craig Mount Veeder 2018.
	That should be decent.
	Oh my God!
	It was off the hook!
	It was great.
	Well, Robert Craig Winery, I did their first website.
	You did?
	No.
	And I traded wine for the website.
	Wine for web!
	Or is it web for wine?
	And so I drank a lot of Robert Craig's wines.
	They've gone way up in price since the early days.
	Oh, it's like 95 bucks on this.
	Yeah, it's not cheap anymore.
	But it's very good.
	Well made.
	Tastes like a cabernet supposed to taste.
	Anyway, so I was doing the website and then their son came along.
	Oh, and he took over your gig?
	He kicked me out, basically.
	The website's a lot better than the one I did, that's for sure.
	The one I did is kind of sloppy by comparison.
	Did it have blinking things?
	But they didn't know.
	And a little cat running back and forth at the bottom.
	So I had... He didn't have a website and I loved their wines.
	I was over there and so I...
	I visited with him once and I said, I gotta go to a website.
	I mean, come on, I got a website, man, man.
	And so I got it.
	All right.
	Well, yeah.
	So I, I was, uh, I was correct.
	It was all good.
	And that Costco, that Costco is fantastic.
	$7.
	That's a Costco.
	You didn't get to Robert Craig at Costco.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	That was at the restaurant.
	They bought this at Costco and brought it to us and like, here, we got a gift for you.
	Yeah, it's a good gift.
	It's tasty wine and it's cheap.
	It's a great gift.
	It's a great gift!
	Isos!
	I got one.
	Oh!
	Okay, I see it here.
	Let's play it.
	Quiet hot.
	What?
	White hot.
	White hot?
	Quiet hot.
	White hot.
	No, no, there's only one.
	Enough already!
	Enough!
	That's it.
	That has to be the one.
	Okay, it's good enough.
	That has to be the one.
	It has to be hardcore.
	Yeah.
	You're ranting.
	Yes.
	All right, let's go to a couple of interesting clips.
	I got one here.
	Before I get to my, uh, my banning TikTok clips.
	Which, by the way, really looks fishy.
	Are you kidding me?
	This story got my attention.
	This is AI at CNET.
	Did you hear about this?
	No!
	Will artificial intelligence be writing news articles in the future?
	A popular tech news outlet was recently found to have published articles written by AI.
	Here are the details.
	Popular tech news outlet CNET was recently outed for publishing articles generated by AI.
	Online marketer and authority hacker co-founder Gail Brayton first made the discovery and posted it to Twitter earlier this month.
	Brayton said CNET started experimenting with AI articles in early November of last year.
	The articles are about personal finance, and Brayton reported that CNET has published about 75 such articles so far.
	CNET didn't make any prior public announcement or disclosure to its readers about the use of AI.
	Only when readers click on the byline do they see that the article was actually AI-generated.
	Because the journalism over at CNET is such high quality that it's an outrage that they're using AI?
	Oh, please.
	A drop-down description reads, This article was assisted by an AI engine and reviewed, fact-checked, and edited by our editorial staff.
	Okay, here's my AI from CNET.
	Look at this phone!
	Okay, you're done.
	According to futurism.com, the news sparked outrage and concern.
	This is mostly over the fear that AI-generated journalism could potentially eliminate work for entry-level writers and produce inaccurate information.
	A writer on crackberry.com wrote, it was a job like that that got me into this position today.
	If that first step on the ladder becomes a robot, how is anybody supposed to follow in my footsteps?
	The criticism led to CNET's editor-in-chief, Connie Guglielmo, to respond with an explanation.
	The platform admitted that starting in November 2022, it decided to do an experiment to see, quote, if there's a pragmatic use case for an AI assist on basic explainers around financial services.
	So you're all getting fired.
	Surprise, surprise.
	I saw that coming 10 years ago.
	Hey, there's a term that I learned just yesterday that ties into this.
	Permalancing.
	I don't know this term.
	Permalancing.
	Permalancing is where you're hired as a freelancer but you don't get any benefits.
	They pay you as a freelancer every two weeks on payroll so tax is taken out but you get no benefits and basically you can be fired at the drop of a hat.
	Is this even legal?
	In California, I'll bet you it's not.
	I wouldn't.
	I heard this is happening in New York.
	I don't think it's... In New York, they don't care.
	They hate people.
	They don't care about people.
	Permalancing, though.
	It's an interesting term.
	We got to keep our eye on this.
	Yeah.
	Well, the robots will take those guys out.
	The permalancers.
	Let's look at what they're trying to do because the Congress and everybody's now getting all jacked up about TikTok as though, you know, it's a horrible, worst thing in the world.
	And you spotted it right away, right at the very beginning.
	Yeah.
	This is just nothing more than, and the numbers will show out in this that, but the theory is, why it's obviously, I think it's confirmed.
	They just want to get rid of these guys because they're taking too big a piece of the pie and it's going to China.
	So as a capitalist, you can't possibly let the Chinese get any of your money.
	So let's go with banning TikTok one.
	The U.S.
	government seeks to outlaw TikTok.
	President Joe Biden signed legislation in December banning federal employees from using the video app on government devices.
	However, obstacles still remain.
	NTD's Daniel Monaghan has more.
	More than 25 states have also taken measures against TikTok.
	But some believe that these measures are not enough.
	This company should be banned.
	I don't know why they're allowed to operate in the United States.
	They contend that it could be used to spy on Americans.
	FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr on Fox News.
	The funny dance memes and video is simply the sheep's clothing.
	Underneath it's a sophisticated surveillance app.
	The Biden administration has reportedly been looking into ways to split the app off from Chinese owner ByteDance, while the Departments of Justice and Defense are advocating for a forced sale of TikTok's U.S.
	operations due to national security concerns.
	You have hundreds of employees with, it appears, access to U.S.
	user data.
	Who's this guy?
	The Republican?
	What's his name again?
	With the long head?
	The guy talking now with the long head?
	That may very well be members of the Chinese Communist Party.
	Hawley?
	Hawley, yeah.
	These guys are on the take from Silicon Valley, man.
	These guys are all in on it.
	All in on it.
	James Andrew Lewis.
	By the way, I wasn't paying attention to who it was, but the guy with the long head, one's a Democrat?
	Kerry, and once a Republican, Hawley.
	Long heads.
	Long head, guys.
	Beware of long heads.
	This is disgraceful, really.
	It really is disgraceful.
	And Trump started this.
	And Trump, he might have meant it, but I also think he had an ulterior motive, like, hey man, if I'm going to start any kind of media company, I've got to get these guys out of the way.
	They're eating everybody's lunch.
	All the ad money, all the ad money is going to them.
	that may very well be members of the Chinese Communist Party.
	James Andrew Lewis, a director at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, says the U.S.
	government does not have the authority to ban speech.
	He noted that any attempt to restrict Americans' access to TikTok would not withstand a court challenge.
	However, law professor Fred Kate says the U.S.
	government has vast powers if it believes a company is threatening national security.
	FBI Director Christopher Wray, Its parent company is controlled by the Chinese government.
	The government does have the authority to compel Apple and Google to remove the app.
	And I said that Apple and Google should kick them out of the App Store based on those undisclosed data flows alone.
	However, this step would have no effect on the 100 million Americans who already have the app on their phone.
	So Apple and Google, they of course need laws.
	Google has a real problem.
	They're losing money.
	They're losing ad money to TikTok.
	I don't know exactly what Apple's loss would be, but Those guys that are too deep into China, they need a law to say, oh, you can't have these guys on your app store.
	It's such a farce.
	I don't know, because it seems to me that Apple's indebted to China for all the phones that they make for them.
	I know.
	So they wouldn't be able to kick it off of their own accord.
	They'd have to have a ruling, a law.
	Oh, I see what you mean.
	Yeah, of course they're not going to do that.
	Oh, hey, we got nothing to do with this.
	These guys in our Congress, you know how much they hate you.
	We love you.
	Meanwhile, there's the same guys who basically neutered Facebook's app and Instagram of their tracking capabilities.
	Yeah, I know, it's funny.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	So here's banning TikTok, just a short finish on this.
	TikTok accumulates massive amounts of personal data.
	CIA Director William Burns reacts to that on PBS.
	I think it's a genuine concern, I think, for the US government.
	The average American viewer spends 80 minutes per day on TikTok, which is more than the time spent on Facebook and Instagram combined.
	Nice payoff!
	Wow, what a farce.
	Holly, Rubio, who else?
	Who else was in there?
	We gotta pay attention.
	Holly.
	And did they, I'm gonna cross-reference, did they get money from FTX?
	Oh, I'm sure they did.
	You gotta look at all these things now.
	Every, the Uniparty is compromised across the board.
	They're all scoundrels.
	Scoundrels!
	Scoundrels!
	So there's a cool, I think obvious fake, I wouldn't call it a deep fake, but it's kind of cool, of Biden calling Hunter Biden, President Biden calling Hunter Biden.
	Have you heard this clip?
	No, I don't.
	I have not heard this.
	Your mic is really, it's really loose or something.
	It's so weird.
	You know what it is?
	I think it's because he's been sitting here for 15 years, and I can look at it, and the rubber bands on the top, because it's one of those cradles?
	Yeah.
	The rubber bands on the top are way long, and the other end of it is banging the bottom part of the thing.
	I'm gonna have to flip it over somehow.
	You need to restring it.
	Yeah, something's got to give, because it's banging, I can see where it hits, where it's hitting this thing here.
	Yeah, it's very unprofessional.
	It is, it's totally unprofessional, that's why we don't get the $50 million.
	Exactly, it's all your fault!
	Because you're not profi!
	All right, here is a so-called phone call between President Biden and Hunter Biden.
	Hey, pal, it's Ted.
	Look, I don't think they're going to get off my ass about these documents.
	I know that there's at least, I want to say, five more places that I can remember.
	Can't hear it.
	You can't hear it at all?
	No, it's just muffled and low volume.
	Well, it's almost done.
	Listen, use the red cell phone.
	Call up Barack and Michelle.
	Tell them Operation Crash and Burn is a go.
	Do this immediately, please.
	Alright, love you, pal.
	Bye.
	I'm sorry you couldn't hear it.
	He says, call up Barack and Michelle.
	Let them know Operation Crash and Burn is a go.
	Because he has five more spots where he's hiding documents.
	That sounded so realistic that I wanted to remind everybody what our president actually sounds like.
	This is from Martin Luther King celebration.
	Martin Luther King III's wife, it was her birthday, and our president did the following.
	Congratulations today, the honorees, including your wife, who I understand, is it her birthday today?
	Well, look, my wife has a rule in our family.
	When it's somebody's birthday, you sing happy birthday.
	You ready?
	Happy birthday to you.
	Happy birthday to you.
	Happy birthday, dear... Happy birthday to you.
	He doesn't seem to remember anybody's name.
	This is the second time he's done the same bit.
	But it's particularly when he does a head, which everyone does, but he... Move the mic away from your mouth, President!
	Happy birthday, dear... Oh, man.
	I think I've... Two clips that I'd like to play because there's some political things being set up.
	We had, and I think this is a general trend that we've detected.
	So we had January 6th, worse than 9-11, worse than the Civil War, worse than World War II.
	More casualties in the trenches of World War I.
	Then we had January 8th, which was, where was that again?
	I already forgot.
	Yeah, I forgot.
	What was it?
	It was... Another important democratic point to this.
	January 8th.
	What?
	January... I forgot what it was.
	Where was it, January 8th?
	January 2nd.
	It was... Okay, well, it'll come back to mind.
	My hello troll rule helped me.
	Then we had the threat to our democracy, obviously.
	We had the Canadian trucker protest.
	And this is all... It's all the same theme.
	It's... Oh, well, you've got people wrapped in your flag.
	You got people who... Oh, Brazil, of course.
	It was... January 8th was Brazil.
	Brazil.
	Yeah.
	They used the... You know, it was like MAGA.
	It was just like Trump.
	And then we had the Germans.
	Remember the Germans who were the prince?
	The German prince who was going to take over the country with all of his elderly friends?
	That guy.
	That guy, yeah.
	And so now we have a version of it in France, although this goes back to the 2018 plot to, I think it was to kidnap or kill French President Macron.
	So this is now at trial and all over Europe they're out basically This has to be stopped.
	It's a worldwide problem.
	It's happening everywhere.
	And if you see anyone who's a patriot or is walking around with your country's flag, they are to be deemed suspicious.
	So look, I think there's a number of ways to look at this group, the Barjol or Crazies.
	So, to start with, I mean, it's not clear that they had a hugely coherent and competent organisation.
	They had principally a Facebook group and some meetings.
	But this doesn't mean they're not representative of something concerning.
	The question, of course, in the trial is whether the prosecution can sustain the claim that I suspect this is going to be a challenge.
	What this represents, I think, is really an international pattern of self-radicalised groups which are circulating around a set of quite established themes and ideas.
	To some extent mainstreamed by political parties.
	And so, you know, what you see here is, in a sense, a microcosm of a pattern that's repeating itself all the way across Europe, whether in the Sweden Democrats or, you know, in PIS in Poland, where you have mainstream parties producing culturally organized narratives that are, to some extent,
	Reliant on a body of support wider within society that has much more extreme perspectives.
	And the consequence of this is groups like this falling.
	Yeah, this is the problem.
	If you're a conservative or right-leaning or just anything that is on the right of the spectrum, you are creating terrorists.
	You are, in fact, probably a terrorist group yourself.
	You will move from the right to the far right.
	It doesn't matter if you're in Italy, if you're in Sweden, if you're in Poland, if you're in the United States, if you're in Canada.
	No.
	This is the problem.
	And, of course, it's all Trump in America.
	The other big story making headlines tonight, a failed Republican candidate accused of targeting his opponents.
	Police say Solomon Pena falsely claimed his November election loss was rigged.
	Well, he's under arrest tonight, suspected of orchestrating a number of shootings at the homes of four Democratic lawmakers.
	We get new details from CBS's Scott McFarland.
	Did you hear this report about this guy?
	I missed this.
	Solomon Peña, just three months ago, was a candidate for the New Mexico State House, championing himself as a MAGA Republican.
	Tonight, he's under arrest, accused of targeting Democratic officials because he was unhappy with his loss in November, which he falsely argued was fraud.
	False.
	This was about a right-wing radical, an election denier, who was arrested today, and someone who did the worst imaginable thing you can do when you have a political disagreement, which is turn that to violence.
	Pena allegedly hired four accomplices to fire bullets into the homes of two high-profile Democratic state legislators and two county commissioners, according to police.
	One was Adrienne Barboa, who found evidence of gunfire after returning home from Christmas shopping.
	My home was shot right through my front door four times, out my back window, right through my living room and kitchen, right where I had just been playing only hours before with my brand new grandbaby.
	Peña confronted at least two of the four targets at their homes just weeks earlier, after the election.
	He said in so many words, at your home, don't certify this election.
	He said, I want results now.
	And he was definitely aggressive.
	In their report, police say photos show Peña with one of the alleged accomplices and that individual with multiple guns and ammunition.
	And that Peña paid one of the shooters $500.
	The police report says Peña was unhappy with one of the shootings and asked the shooters to be more aggressive, to shoot lower into the houses and to do so earlier in the evening when targets would less likely be laying down.
	New Mexico House Speaker Javier Martinez, whose home was also targeted, was born in Mexico.
	That is a place where politics and journalism can actually get you killed.
	I would have never thought that that could be the case in my own country here.
	Police say in one of the shootings, a state legislator's 10-year-old daughter woke up to bullet debris falling on her head.
	Solomon Pena makes his initial court appearance tomorrow in New Mexico.
	Man!
	I mean, how can that even be real?
	What kind of dumbo is this guy?
	How about it being some setup that somebody's established and this guy never go to jail or see a cell ever.
	Let's follow this to the end.
	Yeah.
	Typical.
	Sounds like some op.
	We haven't used the op word yet.
	But there we go.
	You got anything else?
	Yeah, I got a couple things.
	Let me just get the, you know, let's play the North Korea.
	Let's catch up with North Korea.
	What's going on?
	Okay, here we go.
	North Korean lawmakers have wrapped up a two-day discussion on how to balance the country's 2023 budget.
	Its leader Kim Jong-un chose not to attend.
	But the session appears to have led to some big decisions around the country's language and culture.
	North Korea has adopted a new law aimed at what it calls the protection of the cultured Pyongyang dialect.
	It appears to be an effort to tighten control over the spread of South Korean styles of speech and strengthen measures against the influence of foreign pop culture.
	State media also report lawmakers discuss ways to help the economy and improve the standard of living.
	They also agree to maintain current defense spending.
	At the ruling party's meeting last month, Kim announced plans to ramp up its nuclear and missile programs.
	That includes the goal of developing a new intercontinental ballistic missile.
	All right.
	I thought that was kind of interesting.
	They worked about K-pop probably having an effect on the youth of North Korea.
	Yeah, through TikTok.
	Yo, yo, yo!
	No, no, you can't say that.
	You can't say that?
	Yo, yo, yo!
	Oh, you can't say yo, yo, yo?
	Is that bad?
	No, of course not.
	It's against the rules.
	Alright, this is my last clip.
	This is my last clip.
	I'm playing it just to break up the next Asian voice I hear from your clips.
	It's like all you're doing is watching Asian TV.
	I made a point of it, yeah.
	Yeah.
	They're so dynamic, the delivery is fab.
	Well, you know, you're just racist.
	So, you know, we probably have never talked about the Meghan Markle Harry book documentary, etc., because, frankly, what do we care?
	Although it'll be fun to watch when the pendulum comes back because, as you know, it's a boomerang.
	When you abuse the media for your own benefit, it will come back and hurt you very, very badly.
	And I think Meghan Markle, when there's nothing left to tell, that, you know, it'll be end of story and they'll get desperate and they'll wind up like that Kony 2012 guy, you know, running around on drugs naked on top of cars.
	You watch, mark my words.
	So Jeremy Clarkson, he made fun of Meghan Markle and he said, he said something horrible.
	And he's being cancelled over it.
	This morning, Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan Markle are saying apology not accepted after British TV host Jeremy Clarkson posted a lengthy mea culpa for saying in his newspaper column that he hoped the Duchess of Sussex would one day be forced to parade naked through the streets while the crowd chants shame, a reference to a scene from Game of Thrones.
	Shame!
	This is interesting that the...
	The common history that we have now, when it comes to marching people down the streets naked, that actually comes from world wars where collaborators were shaved and marched down the street naked.
	Yeah, it's pathetic what's happened.
	But these days it's a game of thrones.
	By the way, that essay, I think it's in the show notes, the original one, which you can get off of the archive.org.
	It was quite entertaining to read.
	Which essay is this now?
	The one that Jeremy Clarkson wrote.
	I thought it was funny too, but whoa, he's in trouble.
	While the crowd chants, shame, a reference to a scene from Game of Thrones.
	Shame!
	Change!
	Clarkson, who rose to fame on Top Gear and now stars in Amazon Prime Video's The Grand Tour and Clarkson's Farm, issued an apology on Instagram, saying, I really am sorry.
	All the way from the balls of my feet to the follicles on my head, this is putting my hands up.
	Clarkson says he was in a hurry when he wrote the column, which was pulled by The Sun newspaper.
	Prince Harry addressed the column during a recent interview with ITV.
	Not only did what he said was horrific, And it's hurtful and cruel towards my wife.
	But it also encourages other people around the UK and around the world, men particularly, to go and think that it's acceptable to treat women that way.
	Variety reports Amazon is likely to part ways with Clarkson after this controversy.
	There it is!
	Did they fire him?
	Did they cut him off?
	Variety reports Amazon is likely to part ways with Clarkson after this controversy.
	Yeah.
	There it is.
	Did they fire him?
	Did they cut him off?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	I hope he got 50 million.
	Well, he probably didn't get anything.
	And it was a funny piece.
	I read it.
	I've sent it around.
	You had a copy?
	Yeah.
	And it was well written.
	I'm sure it wasn't just knocked off because you could tell it was because there was a lot of comedic timing in there.
	It was written as a funny piece.
	And now it can't be funny anymore.
	Yeah.
	That's kind of, dare I say, lame.
	You can say whatever you want.
	Well, he was kind of a dick anyway.
	He was a national dick treasure, though.
	Everyone loved him over there.
	He was a dick treasure.
	A national dick treasure.
	Alright.
	Let's see.
	Oh, perfect time.
	We've got end of show mixes.
	We've got some good ones.
	They're bountiful.
	Dee's Laughs.
	We've got Sir Michael Anthony.
	We've got Matty J. And we've got the tyrannical lisp!
	I'm guessing it all surrounds COVID.
	Just a guess, though.
	Just a guess.
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	It's out.
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	It's out, everybody.
	It's out.
	Adios Hello This is Klaus Schwab, the founder of the World Economic Forum, also known as the master of your destiny.
	And this is a friendly reminder that we are in Davos, Switzerland, all this week, planning your future.
	We are bringing together 2,700 world leaders from 130 countries.
	They come from the government and business and civil society in a true public-private partnership.
	This is totally not fascism, okay?
	I swear.
	The title of this meeting is Cooperation in a Fragmented World.
	The COVID-19 crisis brought many of us together, but in other ways we are more divided than ever.
	That is why at Davos 2023, we at the World Economic Forum are discussing radical collaboration.
	In radical collaboration, you cooperate with whatever we say, because we are all stakeholders in the new stakeholder economy.
	But of course there will be no actual stake for you.
	But there will be the social credit score, like the CCP, which is based on ESG.
	And you will comply by using digital IDs, CBDCs, and living in 15-minute smart cities.
	The great reset has only just begun!
	Muahahaha!
	Happy Davos Week!
	Here's what you can expect at Davos this year.
	Where our unelected overlord, Klaus Schwab, asks this very important question.
	What does it mean to master the future?
	This year's annual meeting takes place amid a global cost-of-living crisis, and during Russia's ongoing war in Ukraine.
	By bringing the planet's politicians, business and civil leaders together in the same building, the meeting offers a key opportunity, like the clear and present danger of disinformation panel discussion, led by former CNN Arbiter of Truth, Brian Stelter.
	So I leave CNN and I was arrested by military police.
	Brian recently had a run-in with conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.
	Here's how it went down.
	There's nothing you can do!
	We're gonna rape your body!
	Rape your medical rights!
	Rape your children's minds!
	We're gonna ship-sink the land!
	We're gonna destroy every facet!
	Hollywood rules!
	Economic growth increasingly depends on building a green global economy.
	At Davos, the First Movers Coalition will convene to discuss progress towards this goal.
	It's a group of 65 companies working to decarbonize the sectors responsible for 30% of global emissions, including heavy industry and long-distance transport.
	To follow the annual meeting 2023, visit our website.
	Working towards a safe and secure society, I'm the Tyrannical Lisp.
	It's evolving!
	Nah, man, comedy ain't my thing, you know?
	So, I'm not nuts, and I think sometimes just having the freedom to say that, so that other people can sit at home and say, yeah, that's right, I'm not alone.
	And that's the essence of No Agenda, probably.
	Yeah, yeah, no.
	We do want to begin to the left, to the left.
	Liberals continue voting to the left, to the left.
	Boosting twice a year, yo, we got so many left.
	Want us back to the max, have you heard of Sundance?
	We put a bow on the end of the year.
	We made it past the scam-demic, no agenda, got no fear.
	The lies are getting heavy, the corporate press is a bevy of info.
	Miss me?
	We're living in your 15-minute city.
	Creating goals versus finding a purpose.
	Without either one, you're making me nervous.
	Do you know why you were even put on this earth's surface?
	I ask myself, it comes easy to me.
	Service.
	Now I take that to mean so many things.
	How you gonna live your life and be so mean with many sins?
	Confessions can lead you to your blessings.
	The big man upstairs, yo he can help you with your stressings.
	To embody your spirit is oh so humbling.
	I don't want to hear these rappers jibba jabba mumbling.
	Tripping over the words like a debating veteran.
	Meeting odds was absurd voters in PA like Letterman.
	High school wanted to be a football letterman.
	Looking back I was wack watching Leno over Letterman.
	Leave it to the trolls to help Adam with funny quips.
	Still they got the last word.
	Now I'm done and that's it.
	artificial intelligence also can't identify the meaning of an image easily it In just two days, you will no longer be able to buy flavored tobacco products from any store in California.
	Stores will no longer be able to sell any flavored tobacco, including menthol cigarettes.
	Banned.
	According to a study by the U.S.
	Food and Drug Administration and the CDC.
	Menthol cigarettes for us.
	Flavored vapes and menthol cigarettes.
	This ban will kill their businesses.
	Flavored tobacco products.
	Flavor E-cigarette.
	New Zealand has come up with a radical plan to phase out smoking forever.
	It means anyone born since 2009 will never legally be able to buy tobacco.
	Illegal for anyone born since 2009?
	illegal for anyone born since 2009.
	The new rules won't apply until 2025 to give retailers time to adjust.
	Half of those who take up smoking and don't...
	Jacinda Ardern, have you ever used cannabis?
	Yes I did, a long time ago.
	If you're already vaccinated, find someone who isn't.
	One of your family or friends.
	Enough already!

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