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1452: Toxic Stew

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	Oh, she's done the hard work and read it.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Devorah.
	It's Thursday, May 19, 2022.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1452.
	This is no agenda.
	Celebrating three out of seven and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley where the nearby Oakland terminal is dumping tons of Chinese products in our lap.
	I'm John C. DuBois.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning!
	Oh, really?
	Oh, really now?
	You guys get all the Chinese crap.
	It's just pouring in.
	I'm watching the train go by.
	It started some time away before we started talking, before we began the show.
	It's still going.
	And can you tell what's on it?
	Or is it just boxcars of trash?
	Well, there's cargo containers.
	They're just from different vendors.
	The last one just went by.
	Two on each.
	I wonder what they have.
	I wonder what they're carrying.
	Junk.
	We need chips, man!
	Are they sending chips?
	That's what we need.
	We need some chips in there.
	I doubt there's any chips in there.
	I doubt it.
	There's no chips.
	Well, it was three years ago today, John, that we saw each other for the last time in person.
	That we were in the same room at the same time.
	Where was this?
	At my wedding.
	Ah!
	Today is... It's a three-year anniversary.
	Yes, today is the Keeper... Curry and the Keeper's three-year anniversary.
	That's right.
	And we never had a fight.
	I believe that's true.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You're always so lovey-dovey, you two.
	I know.
	Aren't we the worst?
	It's pretty disgusting most of the time.
	Well, we had a lovey-dovey little trip to Charleston, South Carolina, which was quite nice.
	Ah, yes.
	Give us a report.
	Wow, man.
	Unfortunately, everyone agrees that you probably won't like most of the report.
	And why would that be?
	Why would I not like or like or not like a report like this?
	Because travel went smoothly.
	That's no good.
	That's exactly what everybody said.
	Oh man, John will hate that.
	You know, it was so nice.
	We went to San Antonio.
	We flew out of San Antonio, which is a little under an hour from where we live.
	Boom, went to Nashville.
	We're on the next flight within 35 minutes.
	Boom, arrived.
	Perfect.
	Southwest, thank you.
	Well done.
	You know, Southwest, they had invested a lot of money in new routes, and they had to make some changes with the crew, but mainly the pilot shortage.
	Oh yeah, and some bullshit weather problems that everyone seems to have.
	Uh, but they fixed it.
	So, you know, they have dropped, I think, 10 or 12% of their routes.
	And so everything they're doing is smooth.
	And that was, that was nice.
	Anyway.
	It was one of the best run airlines in the world.
	I agree.
	Every single time.
	And I just love the boarding process.
	I can't help myself.
	I love it.
	That's, that's like the number one thing.
	Everyone sits in the same class, but you, you can, you can, for 15 bucks, you can board sooner.
	It makes you feel good.
	Well, 15, not always 15.
	Yeah, the early bird special, you can get your earlier in line.
	Isn't that business?
	I've seen business size.
	No, that's business select.
	Yeah, that's different.
	Yeah, you're guaranteed a front seat.
	And if business select is handy if your airport has a premium traveler line through TSA, because the Southwest business select qualifies for that.
	But it's significantly more expensive, so we just had the early bird special, which was fantastic.
	So you've been to Charleston, I'm guessing, in your life?
	I went through it once.
	How do you just go through it?
	Where were you on your way to?
	It was on my way.
	It was on my way somewhere else.
	Somewhere else.
	I know I'd been there on the Hot Pockets tour, but probably not further as the campground, because we had the This was 2011, and I'm not sure I actually saw much of Charleston itself, but wow, what a nice little city!
	It's considered the best, prettiest city in the country.
	No doubt about it.
	I mean, Savannah comes close, but it's a distant second.
	It was really quite, quite, yeah, just really enjoyable.
	I'll give you a little rundown of the trip and the meetup, if that's okay, just to get everyone up to speed.
	Charleston's all gay, you know.
	There's no, I was very little gay in Charleston.
	You know what we did see?
	A lot of Ukraine flags over Charleston.
	Very Ukrainian.
	Actually, I learned why, or part of it's of course virtue signaling.
	But Charleston, you know, the Civil War started there.
	They wouldn't even call it the Civil War.
	But they're all about rebels and resistance.
	Well, the Civil War actually started at Fort Sumter.
	Correct.
	Right.
	You can see it from Charleston.
	Yeah.
	We're still shooting over there, by the way.
	And the fort will fly different flags.
	Any rebel flag, like Northern Ireland, they'll fly any flag, so they are flying the Ukrainian flag from time to time.
	We had a great tour.
	Have they ever flown the North Korean flag?
	That's kind of rebel.
	Might be, I'll ask.
	So we got a well, let me run it down and then I'll and I'll tell you how we got to that So first of all Dame Jennifer organized with with Tina, you know, Tina organizing the the away crew from from Texas Dame Jennifer did a Phenomenal job and she and of course Patrick Coble Duke of the South met us at the hotel And we got like a full-blown rock star treatment.
	It was almost embarrassing and Charleston Place, beautiful hotel, and one of Dame Jennifer's friends, Margo, I think she's a manager at the hotel, and so she pulled all kinds of cool strings for us.
	She had a great room, and it was just, again, rock star treatment, fantastic.
	We got in, had a little time to just turn around, freshen up, then we went to lunch, which I think was at a place called The Cotton.
	I'm not quite sure if that's what it was.
	And this was a small exclusive lunch, John, with pre-selected people who could be there.
	This was very nice.
	Let me tell you, he was at the table.
	We got, of course, Dame Jennifer, we have Sir Patrick, Roger Roundy, With DC Girl.
	We had Jimmy Gootz and his wife Pete.
	You know, Jimmy is the Holobook guy.
	Nussbaum.
	Roundy and DC Girl seem to be hanging around a lot.
	They seem to be quite committed to each other.
	Yeah.
	That's all I know.
	Yes, they hang out a lot together.
	It was nice to meet... Roundy is a fun guy.
	Have you ever met him?
	No, I've talked to him, but I've never met him.
	Well, I've met him by talking to him, but I've never... No.
	So he made some beautiful t-shirts, actually some Mofax t-shirts that he brought for me, and he walks around with his... Dame Jennifer had everywhere printed signs, printed menus for the lunch, beautiful badges for everybody.
	It was calligraphy.
	I think Roundy might have even designed some of the signage.
	It was just mind-blowing how good this was.
	And Roger Roundy, his badge, he had a QR code.
	He's like, hey, if you want some t-shirts, scan this code.
	He's a commercial artist, which was fun to see.
	So Nussbaum was there.
	Councilwoman Mackenzie Kelly from Austin came out with Brian Skelton.
	Um, also, oh, uh, Tom Blomquist was there.
	Tom Blomquist, the guy who wrote my Swamp Thing episode and was the showrunner.
	So we, uh, we got some, I got to bitch at him about that blotto statement, if you recall.
	I don't remember it.
	No, it's the line where, oh man, I'm sorry, I was totally blotto.
	I remember arguing with him.
	You said blotto in the movie.
	Yeah.
	That's because of the kids say.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And that's what he reiterated.
	Um, So then we went to the event, and the event was at the, I think it was called the American, let me see, the Royal American.
	So, you know, thanks to John Kenny, the owner, Joel West, GM, took good care of everybody.
	We had our own area, John, with a velvet rope!
	This is how good this was.
	So Tina and I arrive, we get the velvet rope opens, we go past, you know, there's drinks and there's just, you know, and people just start streaming in.
	Dame Jennifer has, you know, stops everyone at the velvet rope, donations, write it down.
	She had forms for people to fill out.
	Everything was managed perfectly.
	And you know, this was a little different.
	Now, Tina didn't have the same, well, she wouldn't know the experience that I had, but maybe you'll understand when I say that this meetup had kind of a startup vibe to it.
	You know how when you're in a startup and you're like 25 or 50 people, now this was well over a hundred, but.
	- I know exactly what you mean.
	They're kind of a douchebag quality.
	- No, that's not what I mean.
	That's not exactly what it is. - It's for the startup, I know what this feels like.
	- No, no.
	- Yeah, they're a very young group, they're all jacked.
	- No, they're jacked because it was more, first of all, it's not a very young group.
	It was as diverse as you can imagine.
	Old, young, gay, straight, black, brown, invalid, valid.
	We had different nationalities.
	Everything you can imagine was there.
	People came from quite far.
	Pennsylvania, people came from North Carolina.
	My goodness.
	We had a spook, an actual spook.
	Who he had admitted spook.
	Yes.
	Well, I forget his name.
	Well, it's probably better I don't tell you his name.
	And he had his MIT t-shirt on and someone said, this guy is actually a spook.
	And I said, oh, MIT, of course.
	Yep, I'm the spook.
	So we identified the spook.
	I'm sure there are about 10 more.
	Most people there have some coming from Virginia in particular.
	Yeah, the Virginia area.
	For every 20 members of the meetup, you have at least one spook, so you probably had three or four.
	Yeah, or at least someone with clearance.
	With clearance is spook wannabes.
	With clearance.
	But what I mean by the startup vibe is people are very excited, like we're building something new, like we're doing something together.
	It was just, it had something a little bit different than other meetups.
	So that was just, it's hard to explain.
	It also has to do with Dame Jennifer.
	Because when you have a startup, you always have a couple of people in the organization who really make it all work and bring it all together.
	And that's what she was doing.
	Those are the ones who usually get fired first.
	So just a couple people who were there of note, Phone Boy and Phoenix, DJ Power Boy, a lot of colorful people, I'll tell you, many, many colorful people.
	A couple of, you know, Tina, she DMs on Instagram with all kinds of dudes.
	So I met one of them, Salvatore.
	Very intelligent, funny people.
	Fallback guys.
	Yeah, I like when you do that.
	Fallback guys.
	Midas and Layla from Fun Fact Friday were there.
	My goodness, who else did we have?
	So many, so many to think of.
	Anyway, we'll even get to some of those in the donations.
	Now, the next day, We decided to stay an extra day because it was Dame Jennifer's birthday on the 17th and we had a dinner in her honor that evening.
	But she had arranged a tour with David Gwynn Vaughan who is married to Margo from the restaurant.
	You see how it works in these small towns?
	And he has something called 1670tours.com and he took us on a two and a half hour walking tour of Charleston.
	And the weather was perfect, like 80 degrees.
	I learned a lot of stuff.
	First of all, Dame Jennifer is a celebrity in Charleston.
	There's no doubt about that.
	Everyone, oh, Jennifer, oh yeah, Jennifer.
	The architecture is just phenomenal.
	It's really interesting to see.
	I mean, you have to kind of be there to understand just how beautiful it really is.
	I learned something that was unexpected.
	You know, this is where the AME church shooting was that Obama went to, if you recall.
	That was, was that 2015, 2016?
	was it 2015, 2016?
	This is when Obama sang Amazing Grace.
	Yes.
	Which, of course, we ridiculed a lot.
	Well, he can't sing.
	Go on.
	Well, what I learned was that So the community, the AME church, when this shooting went down, they said, you know what?
	Keep sharpening out.
	We don't want Jesse Jackson.
	We're going to solve it.
	And when you walk around Charleston, it's a very small community.
	We're going to solve this ourselves within the community.
	We don't want outsiders coming in.
	And Obama coming into the AME Church, and of course he was politicking and virtue signaling, and he doesn't really even have the historical background to sing that song, but it was for the people there very healing.
	And I felt a little, when David told the story, I felt a little bad about the ridicule that we had put.
	I think it's okay to ridicule Obama, but in general that was kind of seen as a good thing.
	And a nice dinner with Dame Jennifer and Mackenzie Kelly and Brian that evening.
	And then we came home the next day.
	It was, without a doubt, a fantastic trip.
	We really had a good time.
	Well, I was here.
	I stayed home and weeded.
	You weeded?
	That summarizes my two, three days.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, how did the weeding go?
	Well, you gotta get these foxtails out.
	Well, there was one very disturbing statement that I learned.
	This was on the way there.
	We learned that the Eurovision Song Contest was rigged!
	You learned this?
	The voting was rigged!
	Admit it!
	Admit it!
	It was rigged!
	I thought they always admitted it.
	No!
	They never admit it like this.
	So this is the first time they've admitted it.
	That must be some reason for that.
	Well, of course, because Ukraine really had to win, and the UK, who never or rarely ever win, they were number two.
	They probably would have clinched it.
	This was a big problem for the UK.
	But Romania is the one who blew it open by claiming Eurovision changed their vote in order to give first place to Ukraine.
	And as it turns out, the European Broadcast Union said, well, we had noticed, quote, irregular voting patterns, which forced them to replace scores from six countries.
	Azerbaijan, Georgia, Montenegro, Poland, Romania, and San Marino.
	Just a reflection of the 2020 elections.
	In order to comply with the voting instructions of the competition, the EBU collaborated with its voting partner to calculate a replacement aggregate result for each country concerned, both for the second semi-final and for the grand final, calculated on the basis of the results of other countries with a similar voting history.
	Okay, so they just said, we don't like the way people are voting, so we're going to recalculate your votes.
	This is what they did with the Lisbon Treaty.
	This is what they do over there.
	It's the theme of the EU.
	And it's not just the EU, of course, because other countries are in it.
	And where's the outrage?
	Where are the riots in the streets?
	Nothing gets people on the streets anymore.
	Not even this, not even ruining their entertainment.
	Yeah, we gotta get, see who's, what's the latest on TikTok.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	Actually, there is, I want to do this now because it's important.
	I did have some, they got some bad news on returning from the Clip Custodian.
	This was a real gut-wrencher.
	So he has two sons, and you'll recall the Clip Custodian started producing and sending clips about two years ago, and he's done quite a lot of clippage for the show.
	And he at the time was a custodian and he quit his job.
	He he was inspired by the show to homeschool his kids Inspired to become an entrepreneur.
	He's for two years.
	He's been selling his plants at At farmers markets and it's going really well and This is devastating.
	He says his youngest son Seamus was diagnosed with AML acute leukemia like all of a sudden and And, uh, he lives in Mobile, Alabama, and so, uh, I just wanted to pass this message along because, you know, this could be a long haul for them, and luckily they have Ronald McDonald House Charities working with them, and, you know, so everyone's doing everything they can.
	But what would be very welcome, and I sent him a note about this, he said all prayers, karma, good thoughts would be tremendous if I could ask Gitmo Nation to do that.
	He told Seamus, That, as I told him, that hundreds of thousands of people will be sending their love, prayers, positive energy, and young Seamus, eight years old, says he just wants to be healthy, not to be able to fly.
	He says, don't give too many prayers because miracles sometimes would give more than I would need.
	So, if everyone could think of him.
	That's just crap.
	Kids do survive that.
	One of the famous comedians who now has a show on Showtime, she's a comedian from Saturday Night Live and she was a childhood leukemia survivor and she's great.
	Oh no, this is not giving up at all.
	Absolutely.
	Especially because, you know, these two boys were homeschooled.
	In general, I think they're pretty healthy, been out, you know, learning about nature and all kinds of stuff.
	So, of course, we will be sending all the good vibes to Seamus Jones.
	Well, let's add a little good news, a little humor, a little light heartedness and start off with the George W. Bush.
	Yes, this is fantastic.
	Giving his little speech.
	Yeah, and where was this speech?
	Where was he that he did this?
	It's like a veteran's operation or something.
	The result is an absence of checks and balances in Russia and the decision of one man.
	To launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq.
	I mean, of Ukraine.
	Iraq, too.
	Anyway.
	75.
	Yeah, the audience responses what got me on that.
	Where was the gasp of horror?
	I know where it was.
	They were half asleep.
	Yeah, well they started to laugh after this.
	Did he also say also Iraq after that?
	Did I hear him say that?
	No, he didn't say that.
	Let me hear.
	Iraq.
	He said, he said... No, listen.
	Asian of Iraq.
	I mean of Ukraine.
	Iraq, anyway.
	He says Iraq too, anyway.
	That's exactly what he said.
	No, he didn't say Iraq 2.
	He said... He said Iraq to begin with, so why would he say Iraq 2?
	You tell me what he's saying right here.
	Listen.
	And brutal invasion of Iraq.
	I mean, of Ukraine.
	Iraq 2.
	Anyway.
	Right there, he says Iraq 2.
	No, he... Well, that's what it kind of sounded like, but I think what he said was... Invasion of Iraq... And Ukraine.
	No, he says, uh, I mean Ukraine.
	No, then he stopped and said Ukraine, and then he said to himself Iraq, like, you know, Iraq, uh.
	Listen, he's saying Iraq 2.
	I have it on my headphones.
	Why would he say, why would he say Iraq 2?
	Because he doesn't give a shit.
	Because these people don't care.
	They don't care.
	That's why he would say that.
	Listen.
	Iraq 2, anyway.
	Iraq 2, anyway.
	He's trying to play it off.
	You don't hear Iraq 2?
	Iraq 2.
	Anyway.
	Well, I don't know what he's saying.
	It's just a grunt.
	Well, regardless, shame on everybody.
	75, which I think is a lame excuse.
	It's very ageist.
	Extremely ageist.
	And right, lame excuse.
	Lame.
	Yeah, but that's it.
	Your question was the right one.
	These people don't care.
	They think it's hilarious.
	Whoever was there, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha These people don't care.
	It's interesting, Tina, we were given Scott Atlas' book, Dr. Scott Atlas, called A Plague Upon Our House.
	Where he writes about, this ties into the elites, where he writes about his time in the White House during the COVID pandemic.
	And I guess he had like, you know, 130 days he was contracted to work and he's very candid and open about how everything went behind the scenes.
	Man, it's worth reading this because just Jared Kushner, who really was a gatekeeper, you know, he had to blow Jared Kushner to get a meeting with Trump.
	You know, that kind of stuff.
	But the main eye-opener, it's not Fauci.
	Fauci was not the guy.
	Do you know who really got us into lockdowns and all of this mask-wearing and the social distancing?
	You know, which one person went to every single governor and was continuously on the road propagandizing this?
	Birx!
	Birx!
	Key points, your favorite!
	Yeah, she was my favorite for about a week until I figured out she was no good.
	Yeah!
	She's the one!
	And, you know, it's all over the book that she, she's evil.
	Very interesting.
	I didn't expect to read that.
	There you go.
	Those scarves were a giveaway.
	They kind of were.
	Very elitist of her.
	Check the calendar, lady.
	Very elitist of her.
	You know, this is the number one emailed question.
	Everyone is asking me about this.
	We have discussed it to some degree.
	And finally, I think I can give some answers.
	This is the May 22nd to 26th meeting where the international health regulations will be amended and the World Health Organization will take over the world!
	We will no longer be sovereign!
	Have you heard this?
	Yeah, people keep running it by me too.
	I think I have some answers in the form of two clips.
	In the European Union, I think, yeah, you actually are in trouble out there.
	This is Christine Anderson.
	She's a European Union parliamentarian.
	Dear colleagues, you might not be aware, but the abolition of democracy by the global elites continues.
	On March 3rd, the EU Commission was authorized by the Council to renegotiate the treaty with the World Health Organization on behalf of the member states.
	Under the guise of improving global pandemic response, the plan is to allow the WHO to cease executive governance powers of the Member States in a case of a pandemic.
	Granting governance powers to a non-elected body is the exact opposite of democratic recourse and takes away any possibility for the people to hold officials accountable.
	This amounts to no less than disenfranchising the people.
	We, as elected representatives by the people, for the people, must not allow this to happen.
	I am imploring you, do what you were elected to do.
	Look into this and protect the rights of the people.
	The people you were elected by to act in their best interest.
	And to all the people in Europe, I would like to say, start acting now.
	Write to your MEPs.
	Let them know you will not tolerate to be stripped of your rights to democratic recourse.
	Let them know that any MEP supporting this or voting for this will not ever get your vote again.
	So, it's a very subtle change that is taking place, but it does allow, in this case, Tedros, the Executive Director of the World Horse Organization, it does allow him to claim a pandemic or a country To be contaminated and to call in all resources necessary, I don't know, fly in black helicopters, whatever people are thinking of.
	In the European Union, I think that's actually possible because the European Union, the Parliament has pretty much no power.
	They just look fancy and to bitch and moan.
	I think this may be a done deal in the EU.
	In the US, this is the question I had, is how does this work?
	Do we not have mechanisms for this to, uh, you know, we, we don't just, you know, we, the president doesn't just sign something with the World Health Organization and then all of a sudden they determine what happens.
	And so get it.
	First of all, it has it to, for it to be anything to do with our sovereignty, it has to be a treaty because treaties do impact our sovereignty.
	They always have, they always will.
	Yes.
	And I believe that this is a treaty.
	Yeah, and so it will impact our sovereignty.
	I think more onerous are the operations like the WTO.
	Well, before we go WTO... I'm not going WTO, I'm just saying.
	Well, the WTO... Well, anyway, to understand how this may or may not affect the United States, We turn to Viva Frye with Robert Barnes.
	I could not imagine two more perfect gentlemen to discuss the legality of this, and they do so quite eloquently.
	What the hell is going on with the Who?
	And I mean, I tried to look into it.
	I mean, I think I understand what's going on.
	As soon as he said the Who, I just thought I could hear the opening to two or three of their songs.
	What, who, where?
	What the hell is going on with the who?
	And I mean, I tried to look into it.
	What is this, Stewie Griffin talking here?
	That's exactly what he's doing.
	Yeah, you finally got it.
	It's a Stewie reference.
	What is going on with the who?
	I think I understand what's going on, that they're going to establish a global pandemic response to signatory nations.
	And it would seem that a lot of nations have become signatories to this.
	Do you want to elaborate on the details of what's going on?
	Yes, so what's still misunderstood is there's a belief out there that the Biden administration is lobbying the World Health Organization to adapt a range of rules governing its members that would empower the World Health Organization to centralize responses to a pandemic.
	Uh, now, those rule changes are not legally binding on the United States until a treaty is proposed to the United States Senate.
	We joined the World Health Organization, which is kind of, you know, an organization designated by the United Nations, By a joint resolution in Congress, not by treaty.
	So there's no legally binding.
	This is why Trump was just going to unilaterally withdraw from it and was on pace to do so before the election fornication of November 2020.
	So even if these rule changes pass that the Biden administration is trying to push through, they do not become legally binding on the United States until and unless a treaty.
	Now they're talking about Taking these rules and conforming them into a treaty and proposing that treaty, but that is still several years by their own timetable away from happening.
	And in fact, multiple countries have said they're not interested in delegating power of that type to the World Health Organization.
	So there's a desire for it to occur, but there's been a lot of overreaction in some parts of the political universe because they think it's politically binding.
	It is not.
	It is not.
	Any statement you see that says it's politically binding is either someone that's in good faith that's misunderstood it, or somebody that's in bad faith that's trying to misportray it.
	Whichever the case may be, it's not legally binding until a treaty passes.
	That requires two-thirds consent of the Senate.
	It has to go to the Office of Legal Counsel.
	It has to go through the State Department.
	It has to reach multiple levels of review before it's even proposed to the United States Senate.
	Then the United States Senate has to debate on it, and more than two-thirds have to approve it for it to become binding law.
	There we go.
	Exactly what we thought.
	Good.
	So no worries, everybody in America.
	EU?
	Bend over.
	Bend over.
	You guys might want to start rioting or something.
	You know, I have a second opinion to this, too.
	America signs treaties and we violate treaties commonly.
	I mean, our history is through the American Indians, which is all protected by treaty.
	That's true.
	And so the treaty thing is like, yeah, I don't think we're giving, we will give up our sovereignty for one thing or another.
	And I think the World Trade Organization is a fairly good example where we do it voluntarily, but by, and I believe that's a treaty.
	Yes.
	But, and I think we're happy to do it because we think we can run the place.
	But generally speaking, eh, I think people get worked up over nothing sometimes.
	Yeah, that's why I want to get this out of the way immediately.
	People just flipping out about it.
	Everyone's like, whoa, May 22nd, we're all going to die.
	Well, since we began this show, people have been talking about the Blue Helmets coming into the United States.
	Yeah.
	And what do they do?
	They spread cholera.
	Chicago, no less.
	And dystery.
	What is it?
	Dysentery.
	Dysentery.
	Dystery, too.
	Got a bad case of dystery.
	Got to go.
	In Chicago, that's where we always heard Chicago, going to come in and take over.
	Blue Helmets.
	Not that it couldn't happen.
	So this is an odd report that kind of plays along with this, speaking of World Trade Organization, also China.
	If we look at the global stage, we have President Joe Biden clearly incapacitated by dementia or something else.
	Yeah, the top of his head's been removed twice.
	It doesn't help when you get older.
	He's not functioning fully.
	He's not firing on all cylinders.
	They can jack him up with some drugs, but it only lasts for a while.
	Right.
	But he's also obviously not writing his own scripts.
	They call that Joe-bomb.
	Then we have Vladimir Putin, as we know, is clearly dying of cancer.
	Clearly on his way out.
	And then we have President Xi Jinping of China.
	The Sun is reporting that President Xi Jinping is suffering from a deadly brain aneurysm, according to reports, and he faces a coup over China's devastating COVID lockdowns.
	The Chinese president reportedly wanted to be treated with traditional medicine rather than undergo major surgery after he was rushed to hospital.
	Now, Koshya, we don't know how accurate these reports are.
	But I've got to say, there's something very strange happening in China with these lockdowns.
	We're just seeing some bizarre decisions, even by CCP standards.
	It's true.
	And, you know, as you say, the Chinese political system is very opaque and it is impossible to know what the truth is in these reports.
	But there has been reporting for quite some time now.
	Let's report him anyway.
	Of course.
	Certainly amplified since then of sort of strife within the CCP.
	And the second most powerful person in the CCP, Li Kaqiang, he's sort of been stated as somebody who shares a philosophy of Xi, but sort of tactically disagrees.
	He's a little bit more westernized, if you will, or more capitalist, as opposed to these strict lockdowns and these strange things that are happening.
	Where Xi is much more of a Maoist and really believes in kind of the state.
	And here it comes.
	And central planning in the economy.
	So there are reports out there.
	It's possible that it's true.
	It's possible that it's Chinese propaganda, sort of the opposition trying to put that out there to curry favor.
	Or it's also possible it's the western media trying to suggest that there's strife within China as a way to get an advantage.
	So who knows?
	But certainly it's not a popular opinion what he's doing right now with all those people in house arrest.
	Oh.
	No.
	What if all three croaked within a couple days from each other?
	What would we do?
	I see no evidence that she has brain tumors, whatever they're trying to, because he's making these crazy decisions.
	But we get to watch Biden on a day-to-day basis and make our own decisions.
	And we can tell if he's, you know, got a screw loose or whatever it is.
	I think it's something simple like a screw loose.
	They're not all going to die.
	That's for sure.
	These guys.
	Uh, oh man, I got some pushback on your newsletter, which I never received the draft, by the way.
	I don't know what happened.
	I do.
	Oh, what happened?
	You didn't send it?
	It turns out that you're not adqm.curry.com.
	I'm not, see, you have disliked me so much I'm not even in your address book.
	Your email client doesn't even automatically autofill my email address.
	It used to before they updated.
	Oh, oh, I thought you never updated.
	No, they updated the thing because, ah, it's a long story.
	I'm going to make that email address though.
	I'm going to make adqm.curry.com.
	adqm.curry.com.
	Just to make sure.
	So two things.
	One, I believe there was an error that you said Turkey is a recent NATO member.
	That's incorrect.
	I said that?
	Yeah.
	How long have they been a member?
	Since 1952.
	Wow, that's pretty recent for me.
	I'm the older guy, hey.
	But then I got some real pushback from your Slavic brother, Karmicstriblogger.
	And, uh, yes.
	Dvorak lies!
	You wanna hear your lie?
	Quote.
	Yes, I do.
	NATO is making moves to get Sweden and Finland to join the alliance.
	Yeah?
	Well... This is a lie!
	Because it was 100% pushed by Finland and Sweden, not pulled by NATO!
	You see?
	Yeah, well that's a matter of interpretation.
	Yeah, that's a lie.
	Let's go to NPR and start playing these clips.
	Alright, let's do it!
	Sweden, Finland, update one.
	It's official.
	Sweden and Finland have applied to join NATO.
	The head of NATO, Jens Stoltenberg, is calling it a historic moment.
	Would you like some coffee?
	I'm sorry?
	She sounds like a waitress somewhere in some high-end hotel.
	Would you like some tea?
	Would you like sugar with that?
	Perhaps some half-and-half on the side?
	It's official.
	Sweden and Finland have applied to join NATO.
	The head of NATO, Jens Stoltenberg, is calling it a historic moment, and the alliance is promising to fast-track the applications.
	Two new members would expand NATO's territory, also its clout, a fact lost on Russia, which is threatening to retaliate.
	It will fall to our next guest to lead his country's next steps in all this and to navigate the very fast-changing security situation in Europe.
	Peter Hultqvist is the Defense Minister of Sweden.
	Today he is here in Washington for meetings with his U.S.
	counterpart, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.
	Peter Hultqvist, welcome to All Things Considered.
	Welcome to Washington.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	I have to say, this is a conversation I did not expect to be having, because you have been Defense Minister since 2014, and all those years you have opposed joining NATO.
	You were on Swedish TV just late last year saying, quote, Sweden will never become a member of NATO as long as I am the Minister of Defense.
	Lie!
	You are still the Minister of Defense.
	Yes.
	Are you now fully on board with joining the alliance?
	Yes, you must understand the context and the situation also.
	Because Sweden and Finland, we decided to have a strategy to be military, non allied, and at the same time, develop military planning, building peace together, you know, two countries.
	And at the same time, we upgraded our military capability and have to sign defence agreements with different countries.
	And that worked.
	But we came until a situation when they started the war, the 24th of February this year.
	When Russia invaded Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That changed the situation.
	Okay.
	I guess never ever was only in the in that you thought everything would be the same forever.
	I find this peculiar.
	Of course, your friend who hates me, comic strip blogger, has, I mean, I don't know, the pressure's coming from some place.
	These guys just jump in for no good reason, because it makes no sense that Sweden wants to go in, for example.
	Because what's Russia going to do?
	March in?
	They actually talk about this.
	Well, you know, Russia could march in.
	Where are they going to march in from?
	I'm going to tell you my idea.
	This has nothing to do with Russia marching in.
	This has everything to do with financial networks or whatever the central banks are planning on changing or upgrading.
	I think it's something very different.
	It has nothing to do with military or kinetic strikes or occupying someone's country.
	This is, hey, are you guys on board with us and the new new?
	That's what it feels like to me.
	Sweden has been one of those countries that's reluctant to become a member of the Eurozone.
	Yes.
	Which is kind of galled, I think.
	I mean, the British, now they're out, so it doesn't make any difference.
	Well, the British said that they had Sweden's back.
	We got your back.
	That's what they did.
	They said that.
	We got your back.
	In this report.
	Let's go to part two.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Part two.
	So I was going to ask, because I understand that obviously Russia invading Ukraine in February changed all kinds of things in Europe, but in terms of why it totally changed the calculus for you in Sweden, you don't have a border with Ukraine, you don't have a border with Russia, you're saying it was suddenly it felt like you might be all alone?
	You know, if we are out of NATO and all the other countries around us is in NATO, we will have a weaker situation in all these partnerships.
	And at the same time, when we are out of it, in that new scenario, we will be more exposed to Russia.
	So we have a bigger risk towards Russia, that they can make pressure on us when we are alone.
	Make pressure.
	What, are they going to feel you up in the corner there, Finland?
	What's the problem?
	Make pressure.
	Because we're alone.
	We're in the corner and he's making pressure.
	Russia's making pressure.
	Get your hands off me.
	This just seems so staged.
	Let's go to part three.
	How worried are you now that you've applied about retaliation from Russia?
	I can say that they talked a lot about do something and they also violated our border now twice in a short time.
	So they can do things and what we prepare for is cyber attacks, hybrid attacks, disinformation.
	We have in a decision in Parliament said that we cannot exclude the risk for military attack, etc, etc.
	So there is a broad spectra.
	I looked into the into Russia turning off Finland's energy.
	You look into that, you know why they turned off Finland's energy?
	They didn't pay.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's about 10%.
	If you remember years ago, even before the Georgia thing.
	With Ukraine, they shut it off.
	People were always not paying their bill.
	Yeah, always not.
	Exactly.
	But the reason why they didn't pay the bill is they couldn't pay the bill because they can't pay in rubles.
	No.
	That's the word.
	Yeah, you can pay in rubles somehow.
	You can work it out.
	Yes, you can do the... Of course, you can do what Italy's doing, but I guess they didn't do it.
	So you can, but they're just saying, hey, we can't pay.
	Well, good, they can deal with it.
	Let's go to part four.
	You're just gonna pretend like that's not true?
	Okay, part four.
	Turkey is raising... No, I'm not gonna... I didn't pretend anything's not true.
	Well, I mean, it just seems to me to be a lame excuse.
	Right, but I'm just giving you what the excuse is.
	Of course it's a lame excuse.
	This whole thing is a total setup.
	They're talking about banning all Russian petroleum products globally, because that makes so much sense.
	It makes no sense!
	Of course not!
	Turkey is raising objections to Sweden and Finland joining, and the rules say you need unanimous agreement from all NATO countries for it to happen.
	How confident are you, at will, that your membership will be approved?
	Our ambition is to solve the problem with Turkey in a dialogue.
	I mean, the specific objection that I'm seeing is that Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says, his quote, Scandinavian countries are like guest houses for terrorist organizations.
	Is there any merit to his claims?
	Does Sweden have a problem with violent extremism that you need to deal with before joining NATO?
	I don't think so.
	And, and I have no comment to what Erdogan says.
	Oh, that'll help.
	You know, Maybe it's all about Turkey.
	Maybe this is meant... Well, here's the Turkey clip.
	So this is Turkey, NATO, and... What do I have here?
	Sweden.
	But Turkey is raising some doubts.
	Just listen to what the Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu had to say at a brief appearance with Blinken today.
	You know, we have also legitimate security concerns that they have been supporting terrorist organizations and there are also export restrictions on defense products.
	So what I'm trying to say, we understand their security concerns, but Turkey's security concerns should be also met.
	And when he talks about terrorist organizations, he's talking about the Kurdish militant group, the PKK, and followers of an exiled cleric that Turkey says was behind a 2016 coup attempt.
	So it seems the Turks are really trying to use this issue of NATO membership to get some concessions from allies.
	How about this?
	Maybe NATO wants to kick Turkey out?
	I think that would be almost impossible.
	What is the plan then?
	I mean, surely someone went over and said, yo, bro... We've watched the Turks with the refugee situation use their leverage for extortion.
	Yes.
	There may be an extortion play here.
	Yeah, like a lot of the refugees that went to Sweden came from Syria through Turkey.
	Yeah.
	Now they're complaining.
	Well, they haven't quite made their demand.
	Well, if that's their demands, that's...
	Yeah, that's not something that's going to happen overnight.
	They haven't put their cards on the table.
	We have no idea what they're really up to.
	But as it now stands, they're voting no.
	Right.
	And there's no evidence to the contrary.
	I mean, you hear that, well, they're going to, depending on who you listen to, well, you know, they're going to change their minds, but they've already changed their minds.
	I've heard that too, but as far as I can tell, no.
	That's curious, isn't it now?
	treaty has been enforced for 20 years we're all past that any party may cease to be a party one year after its notice of denunciation has been given so they could withdraw yeah um and they have to give it to the government of the united states of america interestingly which will inform that's curious isn't it now yes which will inform the governments of the other parties of the deposit of each notice of denunciation hmm it doesn't really say anything about getting kicked out though maybe i don't know i don't think you can get kicked out hmm
	here's what here's what here's what can happen i believe because the way because the lloyd austin and the way we and again part of what i brought up earlier which is that we don't uh we we don't play it necessarily fair and we don't necessarily uh uh sign on and do what the treaties tells tells us to do No, we do nothing with the treaties.
	We're a-holes.
	We could do the following, and we would do it almost unilaterally, and it would be very simple to do, because there are governing bodies within the NATO.
	It's not like the U.S.
	Senate where you need a 60-vote situation.
	You don't need that many.
	You just need, I think, just a regular, you have a little meeting, and you say, hey, you know that rule about unanimous?
	Yeah.
	Nah.
	Just have Jen sign something.
	It's all fine.
	Just kick out the idea that all members have to agree.
	Just throw that out.
	Turkey, you don't like it?
	Too bad.
	So in your view, to what end?
	To what end?
	What is the point?
	I mean, surely you do not buy that this is some smart move that's going to contain or curtail Russia and the world will be a happy place.
	I think what you're asking me, I'm not sure, but I think you're asking me why the hell is this going on?
	Why is this NATO thing even part of it?
	Because we're like just a couple of years away from Trump just killing NATO.
	And now all of a sudden it's the world's greatest thing since it's the greatest thing since sliced bread and has to be everywhere.
	Well, maybe that may be your answer is right there.
	Yeah.
	This is in preparation for Trump 2024.
	Very possible.
	Something's wrong with this picture is all I can say.
	I learned something.
	You learned a lot today.
	No, a lot.
	A lot of things.
	We heard that Russian soldiers were shooting toilets in Ukrainian homes.
	Yes, that was on our show.
	Yes, that's when we learned it.
	And we wondered why.
	Well, says our producer, we truly have the best producers in the universe, there's no doubt about it.
	Everybody can contribute time, talent and treasure.
	Everybody is an expert in at least one thing.
	And this producer is an expert in toilets and Russia.
	Specifically, he says, out of my smoking hot Ukrainian wife, ...has informed me the Russian soldiers believe indoor plumbing is disgusting and backwards.
	She even sent me a recording of Russian soldiers calling home.
	The guy told his wife about the toilets inside and they were laughing about how disgusting it was.
	Apparently... This is... Well, I have some corroboration from other people about this.
	You've been to Russia?
	Are you crapping in the streets?
	Well, when I was in Russia, it wasn't far from it.
	This may be just not the Russians in the cities?
	I don't know.
	The good news is, we have a lot of Russians who listen to the show.
	How else do you think we make our money?
	It's all FSB.
	So they will inform us if this is true or not.
	I have no reason to doubt this.
	I have plenty of reason to doubt it.
	It's demeaning, it sounds like Ukrainian propaganda, some way to further demean the Russian people.
	It's bullshit!
	What?
	We're being propagandized by Ukrainian chicks now?
	Oh man!
	Well, Ukrainian chicks are probably the best in the world at it.
	Yeah, as the Beatles said, they really knock you out.
	They only cost you $30!
	Wait, you've been to Ukraine, I hear.
	Another thing that is worse... And you're tied down and robbed.
	No, you wake up in the bathtub full of ice.
	With the lipstick on the mirror that says we've taken your kidneys.
	Don't move.
	Another thing that bubbled up...
	How the United States can grab these Russian oligarchs' yachts and homes and money and everything?
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah.
	Do you have any new information that's come to light?
	Well, the information that's come to light is something we've known.
	We haven't really discussed that much just because it's been on the radar for years and years.
	And anyone who is celebrating this and laughing and jumping up and down and saying, yeah, go get those bookers' yachts.
	This is the procedure known as asset forfeiture, which in the United States has bankrupted hundreds of thousands of people.
	Yeah.
	Just because you are driving along, you're driving along in the back road of some, some crazy, uh, county in Southern Alabama, and they pull you over and they find you, you're killing around cash.
	It doesn't matter how much, but let's say whatever amount it is, is drug money.
	And there's been, there's so much documentation.
	It doesn't even have, it can be just suspected.
	You don't even know it's drug money.
	No, that's the point.
	Yeah.
	You got, wait a minute.
	Well, who carries around that you go, the dialogue would go like this.
	Who the hell carries around $500?
	Nobody except a drug dealer.
	And then they just take the money.
	You're out of luck.
	You can never get it back.
	You can sue them and you'll maybe get it back in years, years later, but it's costing more than 500 bucks to do it.
	But if you have more than that, you're definitely going to lose it.
	So for people, you know, we said, oh, go ahead, laugh, because they'll come for non-Russian billionaires next.
	They're not even, oh, forget that.
	We're just coming for everybody.
	So laugh all you want, because here's what'll happen.
	Oh, we have evidence.
	You've been listening to the No Agenda show.
	Clearly Russian disinformation.
	So how much money you got on you?
	We'll take that.
	That's clearly Russian propaganda money.
	Seriously, that could happen.
	It's unlikely, but it could happen.
	Indeed.
	Yeah.
	You got anything else on Ukraine, Russia?
	I think, well, let's see.
	I don't think so.
	I think I've got... Well, actually, I guess we can talk... We can talk briefly about the halting of the Ministry of Truthiness.
	This is the disinformation... Did you see the picture of her in Ukraine?
	She's in Ukraine doing work.
	Well, it was an old picture, and did you see the article?
	I mean, here's what happened, for those who missed it.
	I don't know if you have a clip of it, but the disinformation... No, I have no clip of this woman.
	The Disinformation Governance Board, part of the Department of Homeland Security, with Nina Jankovich, also known as...
	This is a nice nickname for her.
	I guess she was going to resign, then she didn't resign, but maybe she did resign.
	And this all coincided with an excellent article which came out on the same day from Revolver News, who are pretty good when it comes to actual reporting.
	And they had this big article about Scary Poppins being A part of a NATO-funded group called Integrity Initiative, whose purpose is to, quote, defend democracy against disinformation, and was actually an operator spreading disinformation in the internal politics of Spain.
	Yes, I knew this.
	So, you know, I don't think... Your best people know what they're doing on both sides.
	Right, but so I don't think that's a coincidence.
	It's true.
	It's not a coincidence that, oh well, we're going to stop this, we're going to re-evaluate, and then she's ready to resign.
	She was a bad pick.
	It was a politically incorrect pick.
	It was a dumb pick.
	She wants to be a Broadway star.
	It's ludicrous.
	Yeah, there's been a lot of videos of her doing stupid stuff.
	Yoga instructor.
	All this horrible... She's a whack job.
	But listen to this.
	She did a fake news report.
	Called the fake news report.
	And just listen to how she reads the news.
	I mean, it's exactly the way she was reading everything else before she... I mean, we saw some stuff from her, some testimony before she kind of got started.
	But also listen to her pronunciation of certain words, and it becomes really clear that this woman really was a real operative in the Russian disinformation game, but not in a good way.
	Russian media are incensed that Nazi propaganda minister... This is literally Nina Jankovic doing a fake news report.
	It's completely styled.
	She's sitting at a desk.
	Her hair's all pulled back like she's a news model.
	Russian media are incensed that Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels diary will be published.
	She says Goebbels with an R. That's really good.
	Russian media are incensed that Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels' diary will be published in a Ukrainian translation.
	With monotonous predictability, the Kremlin claims that Ukrainians are glorifying Nazism.
	But Moscow's real concern is that an examination of Goebbels' techniques exposes how closely Putin's methods, using lies and fake news, are derived from and mirror those of the masterful Nazi propagandist.
	Remember, consuming fake news is not only bad for your health and your brain, it's bad for the psychological climate of society.
	So don't do it!
	I'm Nina Jankovic, and this is Stop Fake.
	Thanks for watching.
	Notice how she pronounced her name.
	Nina Jankovic.
	It's got a little Eastern European flair to it.
	Yeah.
	Well, it was fun while it lasted.
	Oh, they won't bring her back, unfortunately.
	She's toast.
	But they'll bring this department back, or whatever it is.
	I'm sure of it.
	I'm just gonna miss her.
	What a bummer.
	Yeah, she was the gift they kept on giving.
	Yeah.
	Every time we turned around, there'd be something like this.
	I'm sure there's a whole bunch more.
	But she was the real deal, I think.
	I think they really loved her.
	They just didn't vet her, or they think it's normal, the stuff that she was doing.
	Of course, it makes sense that a disinformation specialist would be all over Twitter and YouTube and Instagram.
	That's what you do.
	Even though she has a very, very meager Wikipedia profile, as most spooks do.
	Spooks.
	He has a real problem with the spook community.
	Yeah.
	So I have a thing to read.
	Okay.
	This is a study that should get people's attention.
	It never did get much mainstream media play or... I don't think Chuck... Chuck Todd.
	Chuck Todd.
	Study testosterone treatment turns Democrats into Republicans.
	I saw this!
	Explain this study.
	It was good.
	Increased testosterone levels can cause Democrats to become more conservative in their political affiliation.
	A recent experiment analyzing voters in the US elections found.
	The study Testosterone administration induces a red shift in Democrats was published on November 14, 2021 by Professor Paul Zak, the director of the Center for Neuroeconomic Studies at Claremont Graduate University.
	His research has made a substantial impact in explaining the variation in human social behaviors and has been cited by other scholars over 18,000 times, placing him in the top 0.3% of all scholars, explains his biography.
	Zach's latest findings reveal a link between testosterone levels and political preference.
	So anyway, it goes on just like that.
	But yeah, makes sense.
	So, what do you think the point is?
	It's like, we can make... It's a... What's the point?
	It's one of those... It's a douchebag point, I have to say.
	It's like, hey, you ball-less wonders, you guys have got no balls, no testosterone, you're voting Democrat, you're wearing dresses.
	I mean, that's what it says.
	That's the takeaway right there.
	You're wearing dresses.
	Get over it, people!
	Stop wearing dresses!
	Oh, yes, exactly.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	It kind of belies a certain point that most young people, especially when they first enter university, especially if they're lower class or working class or even middle class, When they're young, they have a lot more testosterone.
	It diminishes as you get older, so it makes no sense that older people are more conservative.
	If you're going to use that as a metric, it doesn't work.
	But I like the theory of what he's done here.
	You take a group that is just fixed, and then you give half of them testosterone, the other half Let them go off their merry way and see what happens when one becomes a Republican.
	It makes so much sense.
	It makes so much sense.
	But that kind of fits into the whole purge thing.
	We're getting closer to the January 6th report, which will be the big push.
	For the midterm elections.
	Yeah, I mean... You're making the mistake, and this has been coming up a little bit even on the propaganda side of the news media, which is most of it, that you don't, when you're doing these investigations, you generally don't bring in other congressmen.
	And so by subpoenaing not only Kevin McCarthy, but about five or six other Republicans, this is not going to fly.
	That's war, basically.
	That's a declaration of war.
	You're going to do that?
	Just wait until we get in.
	We're going to do it to you.
	But they're so desperate.
	I think the Democrat Party is very, very desperate.
	They're doing anything they can.
	And this Buffalo shooter, man, I'm sorry, but it's being abused basically to go after white male Americans, you know, clearly with testosterone.
	And it's really ratcheting up a lot of hate.
	A lot.
	Let's play these clips.
	This is journalists at work.
	This is NPR Buffalo.
	Uh, hernalists at work.
	Yes, gotcha.
	Oh, I didn't change the one I sent to you because I changed it.
	No, it says hernalists.
	It says hernalists.
	That's okay.
	I was just looking for a J. I found the H. It's nearby.
	Extremism researchers are scouring.
	Okay, that's what I want to be when I grow up, an extremism researcher.
	Is this a... Can I take this class?
	This, by the way, if you think that's funny... We're standing by.
	Extremism researchers are scouring through the online footprint believed to be linked to the accused Buffalo Gunman.
	Among the materials is a nearly... Wow, she almost read that like a true crime podcaster.
	That's great, listen to this.
	Oh, that's, you know, that's... We'll stop.
	That's exactly... I kept hearing her do her thing with this kind of breathless style of presentation.
	I said, well, who is this?
	She sounds like she's 12 years old, but it's also reminding me of something else and I couldn't put my finger on it.
	That's what it was.
	True crime.
	This is the most popular category in all podcasts.
	Yes, it is.
	Any range, any genre.
	Serial was, in fact, the podcast that recatapulted.
	And they all sound like this woman.
	Extremism researchers are scouring through the online footprint believed to be linked to the accused Buffalo Gunman.
	That, right there.
	Gunman.
	Gunman.
	Is it Gunman?
	Shouldn't it be gun person?
	believed to be linked to the accused Buffalo gunman.
	Among the materials is a nearly 600-page printout of a log.
	Shouldn't it be gun person?
	Let's be honest about this.
	Now that you mention it.
	Yeah, this is incorrect.
	This is not the style guide.
	They're all into throwing everything into personhood except for this guy.
	Gunman!
	...to be linked to the accused Buffalo Gunman.
	Among the materials is a nearly 600-page printout of a log from an online chat platform.
	It reads like a kind of diary of the months leading up to the attack.
	NPR's domestic extremism correspondent Odette Youssef has done the hard work and read it and joins us now.
	In the morning, some may find elements of this discussion disturbing.
	Odette, you've read this.
	What exactly is in this printed document?
	What are you learning?
	Well, Emily, it's a Discord chat log that's believed to be authored by the accused shooter, starting from about six months ago.
	And parts of it read kind of like a stream of consciousness.
	In it, the author shares very detailed information about how he acquired the equipment and weaponry for the attack and tested it out.
	He cuts and pastes a lot from outside sources when it comes to his racist and anti-Semitic ideologies.
	And then there was the mundane, like his exercise routine and food intake.
	Okay, now what you missed, and I thought you'd catch, was for one thing, this is an extremist correspondent.
	Damn it, I can't believe I missed extremist correspondent.
	And then you missed the real gem, which is... Wait, wait!
	Can I hear it again to see if I can catch it?
	It started in the middle and it's right in the middle.
	There's two little gems in there.
	Yeah.
	...joins us now.
	And a warning, some may find elements of this discussion... You gotta go... Back further?
	I think... Yeah, you gotta go back, yeah.
	It reads like a kind of diary of the months leading up to the attack.
	NPR's domestic extremism correspondent- It's domestic!
	Hold on.
	Domestic extremism correspondent.
	Extremist correspondent.
	I think this is extremist correspondent.
	And then the next sentence is, to me, is the one that just is an eye roller.
	Months leading up to the attack.
	NPR's domestic extremism correspondent Odette Youssef has done the hard work and read it and joins us now.
	Oh, whoa!
	She's done the hard work.
	She's done the hard work and read it.
	It's so hard.
	She needed to have puke buckets and she needed to really steady herself.
	She did the hard work and had to do some reading.
	She had to actually read something and you know the way we are as millennials, we don't like to read.
	No.
	It's too much hard work.
	It's really hard.
	I had to read it.
	And it reads like Discord.
	It reads like a stream of consciousness.
	Yeah.
	Hello.
	What a bunch of dipshits.
	OK.
	Yeah.
	Part two.
	There's more.
	It's important to note that the author here wanted us to see this record, Emily.
	He wrote it.
	He edited it.
	And it presents his own narrative.
	And it should be taken with a high degree of skepticism.
	Who was the intended audience for this?
	Do we know who read this when it was online?
	Oh my goodness.
	Okay, I cut it off because it was actually what this extremist correspondent said.
	She said he wrote it, he edited it, and some other things that he did, and we should take it with a high degree of skepticism.
	Yeah, I know why she's saying that.
	Well, first of all, why am I saying that this is screwy to me?
	Because Adam wrote it and Adam read it and we should take it with a high degree of skepticism.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What part of that are we supposed to be skeptical about?
	About the fact that he wrote it?
	Did he not write it?
	No.
	Or he edited?
	Did he not edit it?
	No.
	Who did?
	No.
	No.
	Okay, explain.
	What she's saying is we need to be skeptical about the contents of what he wrote.
	Which is kind of an obvious thing if it's a deranged shooter.
	Uh, because of the meme that has come out of this, which is the Great Replacement Theory.
	You see?
	This is, this is what they're bringing out.
	And this is the true white nationalist hate fuckers like Tucker Carlson.
	They all have the- He's number one on their hit list.
	They, the Great Replacement Theory, which makes no sense because the Great Replacement Theory, which stems from Europe, Which is a real thing.
	The Kalergi Plan, there's even an award, the Kalergi Awards, there is a replacement strategy that is published, is recognized in the European Union as well, but Europe.
	It makes little sense to, on one hand, say this was a hate crime against blacks, African-Americans, and then talk about it being a replacement.
	Bullshit!
	Now, if you say immigrants, okay, I can kind of go along with that, but that's not who was targeted here, according to the reports.
	They specifically say black communities, not immigrant communities, so it doesn't even make sense by the definitions of what the Great Replacement Theory is.
	And that's what she's referring to.
	Well, she didn't, she could have been more clear.
	You, you explained it quite well.
	And, and in fact, that has never been what you said, which is true, has never even been breached by the mainstream media.
	No.
	So what they're trying to do, they're trying to shoehorn two items into the same box.
	Yes.
	Because what you said earlier, I'm going to give him kudos today.
	Uh, let me sit down.
	Because what you said earlier, which is that the Democrats are desperate.
	Right.
	And so they're taking anything they can, and they're throwing it against the wall, just hoping it sticks.
	They're trying this, they're trying that.
	And it's making things worse, because now they're looking like complete idiots.
	Let's play this clip.
	This is New York.
	This is your friend, Hochul.
	My friend?
	Why is it my friend all of a sudden?
	She looks like someone you'd like.
	So first you build me up and give me props and then you slam me down as a friend of HOKL.
	Friend of HOKL.
	F-O-H.
	Okay.
	F-O-H.
	You're an F-O-H.
	I'm an F-O-H.
	Friend of HOKL.
	Now, let's start, let's start before I play this clip.
	This is the clip that's entitled NY Clamps.
	Put down, put down.
	And, um, what are some of the, what are the couple of states that you always assume is got some of the most extreme gun laws?
	Uh, New York City?
	Uh, New York State?
	New York State?
	California?
	The Chicago Chicago's got one of some of the strongest gun laws.
	That's what we're talking about, right?
	Strong gun laws.
	Yeah, they keep people from having guns.
	But meanwhile, these are the same.
	But the stronger these gun laws get, the more people get killed.
	I know it's great.
	It's so it's it's it's counterintuitive.
	So what are we going to do?
	Let's play this clip and we'll find out.
	New York Governor Kathy Hochul has signed multiple executive orders today strengthening the state's gun laws and domestic terrorism response.
	Comes after a gunman in Buffalo killed 10 black people and injured three other people.
	Julian Forstadt with member station WSKG in upstate New York has more.
	Hookle's directive requires state police to file an extreme risk protection order with the court when they believe someone is a threat to themselves or others.
	If granted, the order prohibits the individual from purchasing or possessing a gun and requires them to surrender any they own.
	It is no longer permissive that when certain criteria or flags are out there, it's very clear in identifying what those are, that they have to take the steps toward getting the extreme risk order of protection.
	An extreme risk protection order was not filed for the alleged Buffalo shooter after state police detained him for comments about murder-suicide last June.
	Hochul also signed an order that establishes a new domestic terrorism unit within the state's Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services.
	Yeah, domestic terrorist.
	This is all political.
	No one cares in the media.
	No politician cares about anyone who was killed.
	They don't care.
	I don't care.
	They only care about stopping Donald Trump from possibly even having a chance at even running in the 2024 election.
	They want to root everybody out, call everybody a domestic terrorist.
	Have everyone surveilled.
	Be arresting people.
	They're surveilling everyone now and they can't stop this stuff.
	That's what gets me.
	Well, let's add some more layers to the cake that doesn't really, it's not even edible.
	Are you kidding me?
	AP, the racially motivated attack came a year, a year after the gunman was taken to a hospital by state police after making threats involving his high school.
	This guy was not unknown.
	No, it's very well known as a nut case.
	Yeah, but remember the first reports were, you know, no known involvement with law enforcement.
	FBI didn't know.
	No, we don't know anything.
	Well, maybe New York should evaluate what they're doing when they pick someone up who's dangerous.
	More laws for picking people up is clearly not helping.
	It's what you do after that.
	Or not.
	You know, I have, uh, just a snippet, a 14 second clip and I was going to take an ISO out of it and I forgot to.
	I was going to do it this morning, but I, you know, I can probably go do it.
	I don't know.
	I can't do it anyway, but this is what, this is what they're trying to promote.
	This was taken from an already clipped.
	This is where Sharpton was on with Chuck.
	But I went back and I was erasing it and I heard this.
	It's just a little segment that I thought was interesting.
	This is Chuck talking about the toxic stew.
	We have a toxic stew here.
	White supremacy ideology that's spreading.
	Washington Post contributing columnist Matt Bayh, Republican strategist Al Cardenas, and Washington Post White House Bureau Chief Ashley Parker.
	Reverend Sharpton, we have a toxic stew here.
	Oh, look.
	Sharpton is a known FBI informant.
	He's the first guy they call... No, he's the... I don't want to talk about that.
	I want to talk about this Toxic Stew.
	No, but I'm just saying that how set up this is.
	Oh, he's a stooge.
	Yeah.
	Set up.
	Yes.
	Toxics is a great show title, obviously.
	That's why you clipped it.
	No doubt.
	You think?
	Oh, yeah.
	Toxic Stew.
	Toxic Stew is best.
	I mean, we're done.
	We don't have to think about it.
	Yes.
	The Toxic Stew.
	So, here's... What's this?
	This is an NPR report.
	Uh... The Great Replacement Conspiracy Theory isn't fringe anymore!
	It's mainstream!
	Oh, please.
	Yeah, I'll just read a little bit.
	A 180-page online screed.
	What's a screed?
	It's not a manifesto.
	A screed is a manifesto that is, uh, demented.
	I see.
	A long speech or piece of writing, typically one regarded as tedious.
	Okay, yeah, I like your explanation better.
	Mine's better.
	A 180-page online screed attributed to the white man accused of killing 10 people at a top-friendly market in Buffalo on Saturday.
	By the way, I should mention that screed is used amongst writers and amongst other pundits to insult people.
	Yes, derogatory, of course.
	Thank you for your screed.
	On Saturday has brought a once-fringe white extremist conspiracy theory Into the spotlight.
	But the underpinnings of the Great Replacement Conspiracy Theory, which has been iterated over time to appeal to wider audiences, they just put wider, but okay, they used wider, has penetrated a much more mainstream portion of American society.
	Oh, it's penetrated!
	A recent poll conducted by the Associated Press NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that one in three American adults now believes in a version of replacement theory.
	Well, that's not hard to imagine when you see the actual replacement taking place at the open borders.
	I mean, that's not, that's, you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to think this.
	So if you ask people like, hey, you know, are you being replaced?
	Well, yeah, that's possible.
	I see it happening.
	A lot of people when you saw it, if you remember back in the night, well, I was before back in the nineties.
	I remember when you had the, the air conditioning, um, company that was going to move to Mexico and they brought in, uh, foreign workers to be trained by Americans.
	Yes.
	That's a replacement!
	The H-1B guys are brought in constantly to be trained by Americans in the 90s, during the dot-com era.
	That's a real replacement.
	And it was very common, and people bitched and moaned and bitched and moaned, hey, he's getting replaced by this Indian guy who's getting paid half as much, which was the idea.
	The replacement is not... There's two purposes of the replacement.
	One, vote Democrat.
	And two, don't pay him as much.
	I mean, the Democrats are very much kind of aligned with low pay.
	They encourage it.
	Yeah.
	Between 2010 and 2020, the percentage of Americans, this is NPR again, who identified as white only, declined by more than 10% from 72 to 62%.
	Clearly, that's pissed off a lot of white people.
	During the same decade, several Western European countries saw record influxes of migrants from Muslim nations.
	It is against the backdrop of this demographic change that replacement rhetoric has accelerated.
	Well, hello!
	Can you blame people?
	Am I nuts?
	I mean, I know by saying this, if I said this anywhere else but on a podcast, they'd rouse me.
	They'd rouse you, yes, absolutely.
	Bag my head, I'll be done.
	You're not shot.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The baseless theories claim... It's not baseless.
	It's not baseless.
	There's a definite base for it.
	Claim that these population shifts are orchestrated by elite power holders.
	Yeah?
	Politicians?
	In the U.S., it is said that white nationalists ascribe the plot to Jews!
	To Jews!
	Who they believe are bringing in... Jews?
	It's the Jews!
	Yes!
	It's the Jews!
	Who are... Who they believe are... Jews will not replace us.
	Yeah, that's exactly it!
	...who they believe are bringing in... And by the way, where does that even... Where's the matrices of Jews running these places?
	I will tell you, this is the Kalergi Plan!
	The Kalergi Plan is to have Jewish-run organizations facilitate the Great Reset.
	It's published!
	I mean, anyone can call me a replacement theorist, which I don't think I want to be, but these are published things.
	It's not entirely baseless.
	Oh, so it's supposed to be Jewish run organization, so the Jews will not replace us.
	It's not that Jews as a group, in other words, a Jew, a Jew will not replace a white guy.
	It's the Jews running things.
	Yes, sir.
	That will be doing the replacing of you by, you know, a Costa Rican, a Guatemalan, whatever.
	Okay, well, that's never been fully explained.
	Yes, and there are, well, I think we actually have, I think we have a clip.
	There was a Jewish nonprofit, and the woman talked about this specifically.
	God, it's years ago, but I will find it.
	That she says, if I recall correctly, she says, no, this is our destiny.
	This is what we're supposed to do.
	We're supposed to help Europe clean up its act, you know, become more integrated.
	And she was running a non-profit.
	Oh man, I wish I could find that.
	Well, the fact is, I mean, you have to also note that the Italians, for example, are at the point where they can't reproduce enough to replace themselves.
	Right.
	Let me just see what… In 1925, Richard published another book entitled Practicier Idealismus, or Practical Idealism.
	An excerpt from Practical Idealism.
	The man of the future will be of mixed race.
	The races and classes of today will gradually disappear due to the elimination of space, time, and prejudice.
	The Eurasian Negroid is the race of the future.
	Similar.
	That's too long a clip, but I'll find it.
	We need to revisit the Kalergi plan.
	Kalergi, or also known.
	I want to hear more about the Eurasian Negroid.
	The race of the future.
	It's like, I just, wow.
	Okay.
	Now this, this, this goes very, it's Richard Von Kudenhoven Kalergi.
	He came up with the plan.
	This is in the twenties?
	Um, yeah, I think, no, maybe the 20s or 30s.
	Let me see if I can read it here.
	Everything goes back so far.
	I mean, you know, Marxism goes back to 1860.
	These things are not new ideas and they can't be, you know, I don't know.
	Yeah, well, everyone who has ever written about this is basically a Nazi.
	Anyone who ever talked about it, you're clearly a Nazi.
	Not me.
	No.
	You're the one that brought it up.
	In fact, this is on par according to the Wikipedia with the protocols of the elders of Zion.
	Oh, it's a phony.
	It's a fake.
	It's a complete counterfeit.
	It wasn't really written by the person who supposedly wrote it.
	Yeah, except it was.
	Is that right?
	Is that what that wiki says?
	Except it was.
	And it was Angela Merkel who got the Kalergi Prize.
	She got a Kalergi Prize.
	That's not even possible.
	It's a whole thing's a hoax.
	Let me get a Kalergi Prize.
	It was, I think it was 2000.
	We're going off into the, we're in the brush, ladies and gentlemen.
	Here it is.
	The Kudenhoven Kalergi.
	So the guy that wrote the conspiracy theory, Right?
	Kalergi is a prize.
	What's the prize for?
	Here it is.
	I'm going to read it for you.
	The essence.
	Praktische Idealmus.
	The Kutenhofer Kalergi European Prize is awarded every two years to Europeans who have excelled in promoting the Kalergi Plan.
	Among those awarded with such prizes are Angela Merkel and Hermann van Rompuy, if you remember him.
	Rumpoy, that guy.
	Rumpoy, yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's the guy who has the personality of a dishrag, I think.
	Haiku Herman, we used to call him.
	Haiku?
	Oh, haiku, you stupid...
	Yeah, he had these little poems that were terrible.
	So on this page, I'll put it in the show notes, there's a picture of Angela Merkel, and it says, for services rendered, German Chancellor Angela Merkel accepts the Kudenhofer Kalergi Society's Europa Prize, which is awarded every two years to leading figures who've done the most for European integration and the Jewish world project.
	Fuck, John!
	We're being told something's not real, but it's real!
	I'm not saying it's good, it's great, but it's clearly real!
	With the Chancellor are Austrian politician Joseph Hochthal, representing the President of the Kudenhofer-Kalergi-Europa Society, and Prince Niklaus von Lichtenstein.
	Of course!
	These are the Nazis!
	These are the Nazis, I guess.
	Those are the Nazis, yes.
	So it's just crazy that, you know, but again, to bring all of this into And then NPR does such a piss poor job of explaining any of it and doesn't even go to one third of the detail that you basically made up on the fly.
	Just from knowledge.
	You didn't make anything up.
	You just did like two minutes of research using the web and some clips that we have and got a better example out to the public.
	Then NPR, our nation's treasure, did with all that writing.
	Well, I did have a rubber compass.
	How do they even stay in business?
	Yes, I, well, by doing native ads on the web for their podcast.
	That's how they're staying in business.
	So this is the result is you get guys like this retired, actually I have a classic clip of him.
	This is retired FBI assistant director.
	You might remember him.
	Frank, Frank Figluzzi.
	Now it fits into all the narratives that we have going on right now.
	We have Elon Musk is a real problem because he wants to bring free speech back to Twitter.
	We have, you know, we've got a bunch of January 6th, we got an insurrectionist, we got national domestic extremists, terrorists, so we might as well pull it all together and get the FBI guy to help us.
	What happened this weekend in Buffalo is, in my opinion, the very definition of domestic terrorism.
	We have a legal definition of domestic terrorism, and this fits the bill.
	Violence aimed at coercion, intimidation of a civilian population for the promotion of an ideology.
	There we go.
	We don't have a law making domestic terrorism illegal, but we've got a definition.
	Look, there's no single solution to this.
	The law enforcement is only a piece of this.
	We've been talking about who should be at the table at a White House meeting.
	Let's ensure, in my opinion, that the leaders of the social media platforms, all of them, especially 4chan, are at that table because we keep hearing about freedom of speech, What?
	Did he say especially 4chan?
	Yes.
	He said that's where the... Of course 4chan is a problem!
	Especially 4chan.
	They'd have as a leader?
	I don't know, I guess.
	I didn't know it was a social network.
	It's just a message board as far as I know.
	Yeah, 4chan.
	Okay.
	This guy's got his head up his ass.
	Oh, but that's why he was a... He's a former FBI assistant director.
	The best guys to have their heads up their asses.
	Talking about who should be at the table at a White House meeting.
	Let's ensure, in my opinion, that the leaders of the social media platforms, all of them, especially 4chan, are at that table.
	Because we keep hearing about freedom of speech, freedom of speech, we can't do anything, woe is me, freedom of speech.
	Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from responsibility.
	That's what it's turned into.
	And so we need to hold people accountable.
	If it takes an executive order, because this Congress can't legislate regulation of social media, then so be it.
	What would that look like?
	You're starting to get the idea, right?
	That this is the clampdown.
	We're going to use this to stop Trump from getting in.
	It's all pathetic, by the way.
	We're going to stop it from Trump getting in.
	We're going to use it to label Republicans as domestic terrorists and extremists.
	We've got all kinds of groups set up.
	New York has their own domestic terrorism Task force.
	Okay.
	Well, we failed on a federal level.
	We'll get a new, uh, a new scary Poppins and don't worry, but this is really about clamping down on all online communication.
	At least what these idiots think is all online communication, because clearly that includes 4chan.
	The platforms, the reasonable platforms, they're crying out for regulation.
	They know they're not really media.
	They're much more like a public utility that requires regulation.
	So they interact with law enforcement every single day on threats, but it has to get put on steroids.
	We need embedded Federal agents and vice versa social media security folks to actually develop the algorithms together That gets you to the violent threat and get you to it before it happens.
	Let's just let's just review this So he's saying we need regulations an executive order if that's what it takes because we need the social media folks Sorry social media security folks We need them to develop algorithms that will track what you're saying so that we can have the goon squad show up the minute you're doing something sketchy.
	That's what this guy, former assistant director to the FBI, is saying.
	The reasonable platforms, they're crying out for regulation.
	They know.
	What's the laugh tale?
	What's the laugh tale, douche?
	They're crying out.
	Because they're in on it, that's why.
	I missed the tell, go on.
	I'll roll it back a bit.
	At a White House meeting, let's ensure, in my opinion, that the leaders of the social media platforms, all of them, especially 4chan, are at that table.
	Because we keep hearing about freedom of speech, freedom of speech, we can't do anything, woe is me, freedom of speech.
	Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from responsibility.
	That's what it's turned into.
	And so we need to hold people accountable.
	If it takes an executive order because this Congress can't legislate regulation of social media, then so be it.
	What would that look like?
	The platforms, the reasonable platforms, they're crying out for regulation.
	No, they're not really media.
	They're much more like a public utility that requires regulation.
	So they interact with law enforcement every single day on threats, but it has to get put on steroids.
	We need embedded Federal agents, and vice versa, social media security folks, to actually develop the algorithms together that get you to the violent threat and get you to it before it happens.
	It's not happening fast enough.
	This young man, this person, this shooter, call him whatever you want, this terrorist appears in a forum talking about things that were largely legal.
	So, you know, Reverend Al talked about what's the law.
	99% of his manifesto is perfectly legal.
	It's dangerous.
	It's vile.
	But getting the FBI in there in the form of informants, undercovers, monitoring, they can't possibly do that.
	And they certainly can't do it under existing regulations because we don't want the government looking at everybody's communication.
	So we need to change that dynamic right now with the social media platforms, identifying it and the language before it's too late.
	And there you go.
	It's very clear what they want.
	And the NPR article states similar, as they quote the CEO and national director of the ADL, the Anti-Defamation League, quote, we have literally watched as ideas that originate on white supremacist message boards or like the dark web, which is what a dichotomy of terms. we have literally watched as ideas that originate on white White supremacists live on the dark web.
	The places that are difficult to get to move, said Greenblatt.
	They literally jump to Internet message boards like 4chan and 8chan, which are much more accessible.
	Then they jump to websites like the Daily Caller or Breitbart.
	Then they jump to Tucker Carlson's talking points or Laura Ingraham's talking points or other AM radio DJs talking points.
	And then you have theoretically mainstream Republican politicians repeating some of this stuff.
	Thank you.
	You know what?
	Podcasters... Laura Ingraham!
	Podcasters will be next.
	Was she actually what you just ad-libbed at?
	No, it's in there.
	It's the literal sentence.
	Let me read it again.
	Because that's a nice little... So... Let me just read this again.
	They start on the dark web.
	The places they're very difficult to get to.
	Those places move.
	They literally, he says, they literally jump.
	Jump.
	I'm jumping.
	Literally jump.
	That's not possible.
	But it's literal.
	Wait, you literally jump?
	You have like a pin in your chair or something that sticks you in the ass, you jump?
	They literally jump to internet message boards like 4chan and 8chan, which are much more accessible.
	Then they jump to websites like the Daily Caller or Breitbart.
	And then they jump to Tucker Carlson's talking points or Laura Ingraham's talking points or other AM radio DJs' talking points.
	And then you have theoretically mainstream Republican politicians repeating some of this stuff.
	you You see?
	What kind of a paranoid weirdo thinks this?
	They're coming for podcasters next!
	Mr. Adam Curry!
	Open up the door, Mr. Curry!
	They're coming.
	They're coming.
	And this is not new.
	Certainly not from this douchebag.
	Here he is in 2019.
	This might sound familiar.
	He spoke in the passive voice, in the collective voice.
	We didn't hear a first person from him.
	We didn't hear, I condemn white hate ideology.
	We heard, the nation must condemn it.
	He's talking about Trump, obviously.
	The nation does condemn it, but we didn't hear what we needed to hear.
	So what happens is the extremists interpret what the president read off a script today as something he needed to say, something he didn't really want to say.
	So the president's here getting really good advice and rejecting it, or he's getting really bad advice.
	And I'll give you an example of that.
	So what he's trying to say is that Trump was passing hidden messages by reading his script and making it apparent that he had to read this because, hey, y'all know that I'm really all in with the, you know, the great replacement theory.
	You know, Jews will not replace us.
	I just have to say this stuff on the teleprompter just to keep up appearances.
	We have to understand the adversary and the threat we're dealing with.
	And if we don't understand how they think, we'll never understand how to counter them.
	So it's little things and language and messaging that matters.
	The President said that we will fly our flags at half-mast.
	until August 8th.
	That's 8-8.
	Now, I'm not going to imply that he did this deliberately, but I am using it as an example of the ignorance of the adversary that's being demonstrated by the White House.
	The numbers 8-8 are very significant in neo-Nazi and white supremacy movement.
	Why?
	Because the letter H is the eighth letter of the alphabet, and to them, the numbers 8-8 together stand for Heil Hitler.
	So we're going to be raising the flag back up at dusk on 8-8.
	No one's thinking about this.
	No one's giving him the advice, or he's rejecting the advice.
	So understand your adversary to counter the adversary.
	Oh my God.
	8 is the Chinese lucky number.
	It is THE Chinese lucky number.
	And if you're going to start making references to eight in any number of forms, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, it's not Heil Hitler.
	Well, that's the same as number 14.
	You know, that's also another Nazi reference, which was on the Church Christ Shooter's weapon, as well as the Buffalo Shooter's weapon.
	Which is interestingly... I didn't know it was on the Buffalo Shooters.
	Yeah, well there's a picture.
	It could be totally made up.
	I think some of these... What was written all over that weapon is dubious.
	I mean, even some of the video I've seen is dubious.
	But it doesn't matter.
	Ultimately, we understand people died, so we'll take that at face value.
	And this is horrible, but how it's being abused is bad for everybody.
	And I will, and we gotta take a break, but I just want to shoehorn this into Elon Musk and Twitter.
	Because it fits perfectly with my theory that Elon Musk is an agent, a government agent of change, and his entire intent is to destroy Twitter because it's no longer within the Democrat Party's control.
	They know it.
	They know they're losing their grip.
	So they bring in their hitman.
	I'm sorry, I can't see him any other way.
	He may be a super nice guy.
	He may not even know he's doing.
	Maybe it's all MKUltra.
	But when I hear So he's good friends with our buddy, your buddy actually, your best friend, Jason Calacanis.
	You know, you hang with the Kalmeister out there in California.
	I've known Jason.
	Of course we know Jason.
	And Jason is very good friends with Elon.
	He bought a Tesla car 16.
	He invested.
	I think made a lot of money investing in Uber and Tesla and he's the little he's the the angel investment guy and he he had put together a fund which would invest in Elon's purchase of Twitter.
	I think you could buy in for $250,000 which is a nice way to get in on a deal if the deal made any sense.
	So now we see some interesting things taking place.
	Which, in my mind, has already destroyed Twitter.
	It's destroyed its reputation.
	Advertisers will run away if they haven't defected already.
	Twitter is toast, and he and Jason had a big conference on stage, and he had Chamath on there, and all his poker-playing buddies, and they're talking about making money, and I love Jason Calacanis.
	He brings color to the world.
	So don't get me wrong on this, he's fabulous and he really helps out with some content on the show today because he brought his good friend Elon on to discuss the Twitter acquisition or not.
	Is this Twitter deal going to get closed, do you think?
	What are the chances here?
	Well, I mean, it really depends on a lot of factors here.
	I'm still waiting for some sort of logical explanation for the number of fake or spam accounts on Twitter, and Twitter is refusing to tell us.
	This just seems like a strange thing.
	Wait, sorry, are they refusing to tell you or you don't think they really know?
	I mean, there's a good chance they may just have no idea.
	They claim that they do know.
	Yeah.
	And they claim that they've got this complex methodology that only they can understand.
	The guy who landed two rockets simultaneously.
	You get on which he's grew, and you stir this cauldron, and then you throw the novel at him.
	And then suddenly it comes to you in a dream.
	I don't know.
	But there should be some, you know, objective way to the thing.
	Because this is a material public state.
	It's a threshold issue, yeah.
	You know, it's a material adverse misstatement.
	Yeah.
	thinks This is important.
	I know this from my own S-1 filings and documents.
	Yes, it's a legalese term and he's saying it for a reason.
	Yes, he's saying it.
	Material adverse clause, the MAC is what we call it.
	No, material adverse condition clause, known as the MAC clause, means if anything changes in a material way, all bets are off.
	And there's always a legal clause in these types of contracts.
	And all bets are off.
	Totally.
	Out.
	Let's go out.
	That's why he's bringing up material adverse, because this is what's happening.
	Continue.
	Continue.
	I'm sorry?
	I said continue.
	I don't know.
	There should be some, you know, objective way to set the thing, because this is a material public statement.
	It's a threshold issue, yeah.
	It's a material adverse misstatement.
	If they in fact have been vociferously claiming less than 5% of fake or spam accounts, but in fact it is 4 or 5 times that number, or perhaps 10 times that number, this is a big deal.
	It seems like if you said, okay, I agree to buy your house.
	You say the house has less than 5% termites.
	That's an acceptable number.
	But if it turns out it is 90% termites, that's not okay, you know?
	It's not the same house.
	This house is made mostly of termites.
	Termites leave, and literally your house will disappear, because it's mostly made of termites.
	So he's drawing an analogy between a 90% termite house and Twitter, the bot termite house.
	The deal is done.
	This is not a negotiation tactic, all you hopefuls.
	No, Elon's not going to save anything.
	It was never the intent.
	This is to destroy it.
	And you know what?
	It's going to destroy the advertising model of other social media companies as well, I think.
	And John, you and I have been in the business a long time.
	When it comes to number reporting to advertisers, let's be honest, can we just say it's probably 50% bullshit?
	I would say that's a good number, about half.
	You double it.
	Yeah.
	It's bullshit.
	You know, and take into account how Facebook counts.
	That's why there's all these auditing companies and there's all these different operations that are supposed to check.
	And that's why, you know, Adobe's in on the deal and Nielsen's always trying to keep track of the TV and they don't know what to do about streaming or podcasts or anything in between.
	And there's newcomers coming in and they're all fretting over at Nielsen.
	And if you read the trades, all you hear about is this and that.
	They're always worried sick.
	Yeah, but it's because we know it's bullcrap.
	And if you just look objectively at Twitter, I mean, they have an API that's wide open to create bots with.
	I mean, I post, I never, I rarely post to Twitter directly.
	It's always through my system, the Freedom Controller, which... I used to do direct, but I have to say, I've been looking at my numbers going up and then I noticed that the real Dvorak, if anyone wants to join.
	So I'm noticing, so I go, I've been checking on who has been following me of late to see, you know, if there's anybody interesting, some famous person.
	And I've been seeing these babes.
	Ah, the babes are out.
	Okay.
	And now you know that that's spam.
	Or trolls.
	Or bullcrap.
	So there's these babes and they come up... Wait, these babes follow you?
	Yeah, they're following me.
	Okay, so now we know they're fake.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	You're welcome.
	I can feel my balls shrivel just as you tell me these things.
	So, so I checked the babes and the babes, the babes, they're all exactly the same.
	I mean, the different babes.
	Babes!
	They've all got big tops.
	They post four photos.
	Big tops.
	Yeah.
	People should check this.
	Yeah.
	They put four, they've got like seven followers, which I don't know why, but I think people follow.
	They post four photos of themselves, four and only four.
	Yeah.
	Photo one, two, three, and four and nothing else.
	And these photos come in pretty much at the same time.
	And they, you know, and they also have a kind of a cute little bio of themselves.
	It's kind of always cute.
	They're like kittens and things like that.
	And it's so obviously a bot or some sort of a fake.
	Why do they, all of them, all of them, not one or two, all of them put the four photos.
	They're either hookers, which is possible, but I don't even think they're hookers.
	I think they're just fakes, complete fakes from the get go.
	And there's like, I get probably 20 of them.
	Have you checked the profile of all 20?
	Yeah.
	Oh man, that's 40 tops.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	So I'll just say four photos.
	It just cracks me up.
	It's such a formula.
	They don't even have enough creativity.
	Whoever's doing this to do something a little different, maybe post a comment, you know, say something like, I don't like Joe Biden.
	No, no, no.
	There's none of that.
	Just four photos.
	Yeah.
	So I think we can safely assume that this deal is not going to happen.
	I am on the optimistic side and I'm not making this assumption.
	This is your theory and you can lord it over me about this particular moment in history if what you say happens.
	I'm not saying you don't have valid reason for thinking this way.
	I know.
	I'm just doubtful.
	That's why there's two of us.
	I'm looking at Twitter stock, $37.37.
	So that's a problem no matter what.
	and 37 cents uh so that's a problem no matter what not a problem if you short it did you guys short on No, we didn't short on the game.
	I was thinking, I think, actually, I think the horror was actually shorted in real life.
	Yeah, because he's smart.
	He's like, I'm gonna listen to Adam.
	He knows what he's talking about.
	Good job, man.
	It wasn't because of your theory.
	Oh, he had some other theory?
	No, he thinks that, he thinks, yeah, he thinks he's just trying, he, the basic, and I think we kind of agreed on this.
	If, if, if, uh, Musk already bought some 10% of the company or something like that.
	Now he can pick up even more lower.
	So his total outlay from buying the entire company would decrease by quite a bit.
	Oh, okay.
	So he's investing in Twitter the same way people invest in crypto.
	Buy the dip!
	Well, I think shorting is a good idea on Twitter.
	This is not advice.
	I'm not in it.
	I don't do that anymore.
	But this is part of it.
	They need to destroy it.
	They need to get rid of it.
	Twitter is the problem.
	Facebook, kind of under control.
	Everything else is kind of under control.
	But Twitter, no, this is a problem.
	Because you can sign up.
	There's anybody.
	There's no way.
	And just thinking about it logically, I mean, when Elon Musk went into this, he must have known.
	Everyone knows.
	There's no way to actually know how many real people are on Twitter.
	Because it's an open registration, you just need an email address.
	They say that they remove half a million fake bot accounts every single day.
	Imagine, there's got to be a percentage that gets through.
	So, I just don't see how...
	I don't see how we could ever think, except for Facebook's official SEC filing that said that they had less than 5% fake accounts.
	Well, now they have to show it, and I think they have to show it not to the stockholders, but the advertisers.
	Twitter only does brand advertising.
	Do they do any other kind of revenue that you're aware of?
	As far as I can tell, link bait.
	Yeah, well, they don't even have that anymore.
	They're destroyed.
	It's done.
	Anyway.
	We shall see.
	We'll keep on it.
	It's okay.
	You've made your point.
	Thank you.
	You're beating me up with it.
	Yeah.
	It's fun.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage, as I say in the morning to you, the man who put both C's in his buddy Jason Calacanis' name.
	Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. John C. Dvorak!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam.
	In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships that see blues in the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
	All the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Hey, trolls!
	How you doing?
	Let's count you right away.
	Let's see how we're doing on this Thursday.
	Hands up.
	Okay.
	Trolls.
	Oh my.
	This is bad.
	1813.
	Low.
	Low.
	Yikes.
	Yikes.
	We're losing our mojo in the troll room, John.
	Is this today Sunday or Thursday?
	Thursday.
	Last Thursday it was 17 something.
	It's going up.
	Shows you what I know.
	I'm not a statistician.
	Okay.
	Well, Trolls, good to have you here.
	Good, there's a hundred more than last week.
	We do appreciate that.
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	Follow us at knowagenthesocial.com.
	You can actually go to knowagenthesocial.com and look at the public timeline if you want to just read along and see what the conversation is about.
	But if you get an account with any Mastodon server, pretty much all of them, although some will block us, ignore those, find one that doesn't, and you can follow individuals.
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	It's what Trump wanted to do but did it wrong.
	We're doing it right, noagendasocial.com.
	Sorry, just the way it is.
	And we send out a huge thanks and congrats to the artist who brought us the album Art for episode 1451, aptly titled Texas Balls.
	And boy, I have a lot of invitation to taste people's balls around Texas.
	I'm very excited about that.
	Yeah, there's a lot of balls sucking in Texas.
	Hey man, it was already iffy that I did it.
	You didn't have to like hit it home like that.
	Capitalist Agenda brought us a... it was like a classic piece of artwork that reminded me of Steamboat Willie, to be honest.
	And this is a baby bottle looking very distraught, sitting on the ground with a sign, holding a sign saying, we'll work for formula.
	And it obviously fit with the news of the day, but it was also just a really interesting piece.
	And I don't know, were there other things that we looked at?
	I wouldn't make a comment on this, Art.
	Now I, it was catchy for the exact reasons that you suggest, except I will say one thing just to correct the style a little bit.
	It's something that should have been, it wasn't noticed by us and it wasn't important and nobody else would pick this up.
	But in the era of that sort of art, the arms are always rounded off.
	Ah, no elbow, no sharp edges.
	Uh-huh.
	And he's got a sharp edged elbow and a knee.
	Both very visible.
	I would say the capitalist agenda is lucky we didn't reject them for these clear technical issues.
	Well, he did it in such an extreme way that it was like, I said, okay, this is stylistic consideration.
	I think we can let it slide.
	But, uh, that was the only thing that kind of bothered me.
	It would have been better if they were, uh, round instead of angular.
	But it was kind of the Steamboat Willie vibe and had the- It was a great piece.
	The right colors to it.
	We did look at a few other things.
	He did another one up higher and he did a toilet with a bullet in it.
	Same thing.
	And in that case, he did have the round elbows, which I found interesting change.
	I'm looking for it.
	It's got the TV set with his hands in the air.
	Oh, don't shoot!
	I don't think that one came in before we chose.
	I remember it.
	Oh, you do?
	I don't remember that one.
	There were a lot of toilets being shot for art.
	A lot of toilets with targets.
	None of them really hit.
	I'm not quite sure why.
	I did like the poo tin from Tantanille, which was the... A pun.
	Yes, the bucket, the tin bucket where you poo in, poo tin, get it?
	We both like Matthew Dropko 1972's Washing Chips, but the execution was just not there.
	That was the mouse connected to the washing machine.
	That's the one you, you initially liked it right off the bat.
	I did.
	I did.
	And then I kind of, I didn't like the composition.
	You put the kibosh on it.
	You don't like that guy, Matthew Drobko.
	I found that the composition was, could have had been, it could have been improved somehow.
	I'm not sure how, but that's what artists do, not me.
	And you also liked, which I put the key, I just put the key brush on round.
	Oh, no, I know.
	Neither one of us put the key brush on round.
	He had a piece.
	I think it came in for today's show with what's her name with a loser thing.
	No, no, no, no.
	That's new.
	We didn't put that on.
	That is new, but I'm wondering if that's a real picture of her.
	No, probably not.
	Well, it does represent who she is.
	I mean, it's a real representation.
	I can see her doing that.
	Yeah, it's beside the point.
	It's got nothing to do with the art that we're discussing.
	You liked the Gerber Babies.
	I did like the Gerber Babies.
	Yeah, the Warhol type thing.
	I thought it had a subtle nod to the recent auctioning of the Andy Warhol Marilyn.
	For like $200 million?
	Ridiculous.
	That's crazy.
	But it was funny.
	But this was done in a Warhol style and I thought it was very creative.
	Everybody thought- But, you know, we never talked about Warhol.
	We don't care.
	A lot of Texas testicles, balls, jokes.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's hard to say how we feel after the show.
	What we're looking for.
	Let me see, was there anything else?
	By the way, if we picked this art like a week later, I doubt that we'd pick the same art.
	You doubt or you think?
	You doubt.
	I doubt.
	I don't want to second guess us because that's what we did in the moment and I'm still, I love it a lot and I again congratulate Capitalist Agenda for doing that.
	And you can, if you're using a podcasting 2.0 app, you see it right now on your screen.
	Go ahead, take a look.
	If you're not, then you're using a bad app.
	You need a good one.
	Newpodcastapps.com.
	Also, when one of your favorite podcasts gets deplatformed, it's happening from Apple or Spotify or Amazon or Google or Wondry or whatever these outfits are, Yahoo, God knows.
	SiriusXM, iHeartRadio, get off those apps!
	Get something that's open and free and open source and distributed and made by people who care, not by money-grubbing horrible people who try to ruin podcasting and capture it.
	Backslash.
	Now let us thank our executive and associate executive producers for... Screed.
	Yes, Screed!
	For episode 1452, we have a number of donations that many of them came in on the spot during the meetup.
	Many people have sent in after the fact.
	So where appropriate... Do you want to do the over $50 ones, right?
	Everything that you got in your hand and you can get that out of the way and then we can just roll from there?
	Well, the way we did it in the spreadsheet... Did they end up on the spreadsheet?
	Yes, if you look at the spreadsheet, everything in orange is in the right spot, and that comes from a donation made at the meetup.
	Oh, then we just read away.
	We just read like it's a normal donations segment, yes.
	And this is, of course, Dame Jennifer, who said, who scanned all the notes.
	Now we didn't, she scanned the notes, she transcribed the notes, put them in the spreadsheet, made a Word doc, and also has a database.
	In case you want to ask, she should meet Eric.
	I think these two would hit it off with all of the systems, but very, very good and so appreciative.
	as we kick it off with our top donor, Sir Boiled Peanut, who is from Charlotte, North Carolina, and comes in with the big baller amount here, $1,495.04.
	I'm not even sure why that is, but perhaps the note will give us some information.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Overall, this is roughly a 60-second read.
	Holy crap.
	Adam, we met in Charleston.
	Thank you for being gracious and tolerant to people like me that have absolutely nothing interesting to say to you.
	That's not true.
	Everybody was interesting.
	Everybody was interesting to listen to.
	These are the proceeds from my button artwork sold through noagendashop.com.
	Truly a class operation.
	Unlike myself.
	To all producers who haven't received their orders yet, you will get them.
	Life's issues got in the way.
	I'm very behind.
	I apologize.
	And he said, even though he said no jingles, no karma, he does request health and baby making prayers from producers that love Jesus.
	Sorry for the long note.
	And since it's no jingles, no karma, we always have the double karma for you.
	You've got Farmer.
	About a 25 second read, in fact.
	Yes.
	Thank you very much, Sir Bully Peanut.
	It was great meeting you.
	And I remember you specifically, because you had a cool logo.
	Did he give you a button?
	He did.
	Several buttons, actually.
	But that, that, that, so this $1,495 is what he made as an artist on doing buttons, selling them through the shop.
	There's people with businesses out there.
	Kimo Nation is rocking it.
	Black Knight Sir Big Loaf is up on the list in Garner, North Carolina.
	43760.
	And he came in, this is one of those that you got, you picked up at the event.
	This is a very drunk donation.
	My girlfriend and I have arrived a day ahead of time for the Charleston meetup.
	We caught up with a few producers and alas, we're sloshed.
	It was a common theme.
	Since you always talk about donating time, treasure, and talent, it's about time you get some real treasure.
	I donated 11 ounces of silver.
	Yep.
	We have it.
	Also, I mean... We have it in our possession.
	Also, I'm including $200.
	This should bring me to executive producer level.
	Can I get a Master of the House Karma?
	Hail the toots.
	The foots.
	Black Knight Big Loaf.
	Hail the foots, not the toots.
	Hail the foots.
	Oh, the foots.
	Yes, I looked it up for you.
	Whatever happened to our foots.
	Borg.org slash NA.
	Donate enough to be a knight someday.
	There you go.
	There's your master of the house.
	Dame Cece, a.k.a.
	Kathy Rhodes, Greenboro, Georgia.
	Greensboro, Georgia.
	$400.02.
	I-T-M-A-N-J.
	Dame Cece from Greensboro, Georgia here with a two-first switcheroo.
	Okay.
	First, for my—for Lee Rhodes, my dear husband, who is with me at the Charleston Meetup, a de-douching, please.
	You've been de-douched.
	Second, a de-douching and happy 70th birthday to my big brother, Mike Ray, from Catawba, South Carolina, who hit me in the mouth a couple months ago and fell face-first into the deep end.
	You've been de-douched.
	I love you both dearly.
	With this check and my monthly alimony, they both reach executive producer at 333.33.
	Please play Camel a Biscuit.
	That's the biscuit for your birthday.
	And a Reverend Al, resist we much.
	Thanks guys.
	And Dame Jennifer, may your exit strategy be a long time coming.
	Dame Cece.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	But resist we much.
	We must and we will much about Let that be committed.
	There you go.
	Nice to meet you.
	Next up is Gunter Weber in Odessa, Florida.
	I'm sure everyone calls him Weber.
	Weber, yeah.
	347.
	But if your first name is Gunter, it's likely you're a Weber.
	Gunter Weber!
	This is my second donation but never got a proper deducing.
	Well, we can do that for you right now.
	You've been de-douched.
	I hope this donation amount of $3.33 plus the amount to get me halfway to knighthood helps you to- helps you to keep you guys- helps you to keep you guys afloat.
	We're treading water.
	Please call out Eric at the chase as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	And then he notes us for the second time.
	Oh boy.
	You guys are a national treasure.
	I see no... Let's do it.
	Anonymous, with our favorite number, 345.67.
	Can I get an F cancer karma, please?
	My friend Rachel's cancer might be coming back.
	Appreciate any prayers thrown her way.
	Love you, mofos.
	Mean it, of course.
	You've got karma.
	Matthew Shock in Farmington, Minnesota.
	333.33.
	Uh, 33, happy birthday to me!
	Tomorrow 20th will be my 36th, so I have to start planning what to do for my mid-life crisis.
	My advice?
	Ferrari.
	Instead of candles, I'd like a Jobs Karma as I'm finally making some moves professionally.
	Thanks for all you two do!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Now just a question on that Kathy Rhodes.
	So the switcheroo is for Lee Rhodes, but then she also mentions Mike.
	Okay, I think it's just Lee Rhodes will be the switcheroo.
	I'm just rereading it here.
	Make sure we get everything done right.
	All right, that was Matthew Schock.
	Chris Sully Sullivan is in Ventura, California, 333.33, and he says, all your hard work is very much appreciated, and there will be more 333.33 donations in the future.
	One more 333, and I'll be cents shy of night status, but I'll admit that my roundtable request probably won't be very exciting as I'm currently in prep for the USA Bodybuilding Championships in Las Vegas on July 29th and 30th.
	Oh, Chris, send photos.
	If I win, I'll become an IFBB professional bodybuilder, a dream I've been chasing for 15 years.
	Oh, man, can we get a little no agenda on the shirt there or something?
	Is this a sponsor type view?
	We got racing cars.
	We got horses.
	Is that two across the chest?
	Yeah.
	With that goal in mind, a little goat karma would be appreciated as I navigate the next ten and a half weeks of contest prep.
	The training's hard, but this show helps put my mind in a different place, helping me maintain discipline.
	If anyone is interested in following my journey, it can be found under the handle of at FinancialSully on both TikTok and Instagram.
	As it is with training and donating, if it doesn't hurt, it doesn't count!
	Onward!
	Thank you, man.
	You didn't want to use that little teddy on the news.
	Yeah, if it doesn't hurt, it doesn't.
	Well, that is the beauty of value for value.
	It's like if it's $30 and that hurts you, that's massive value.
	We consider that to be massive value.
	That's beyond probably.
	Not so as Sir Jake, Knight of the Deep Blue Sea in San Diego, California with $333.30.
	It's an honor to be the EP of the No Agenda Show once again.
	In three weeks I'll be graduating from the University of California, San Diego with an MBA after which my family and I will be headed to Pearl Harbor, Hawaii to start my new assignment.
	We're hoping to buy a house out there.
	But the interest rates, it's not even the interest rates.
	I don't know if you can buy, you have to lease everything.
	But the interest rates are where they are right now.
	From BlackRock.
	You know, which was not happening according to the former New York banker.
	Not happening.
	Take it up with him.
	To start my new assignment, we're hoping to buy a house out there with interest rates where they are right now that isn't in the cards and will be renting, but even affordable rentals for a family of six seem few and far between.
	Please send some moving and house-finding karma our way.
	Also, Adam, let me know if you need some more Axio.
	If other people want to try it, they can get it from bit.ly, bit.ly slash tinyaxio.
	Bit.tinyaxio.
	There's a few lemonade flavors that are delicious.
	All the best, Sir Jake.
	What's he talking about?
	He has these powders called Axio.
	It's bit.ly slash tinyaxio.
	And I think he makes them.
	Or is it his company?
	And they're like protein, kind of healthy.
	Not even protein.
	It's been a while since I tried them, but it's supposed to make you feel good.
	It's crack, basically.
	Healthy crack.
	It's good.
	I enjoyed it.
	I had a couple of them.
	It says legal crack.
	Oh, yes.
	What did he want?
	He wanted some moving and house-finding karma.
	We got that for you.
	You've got karma.
	The feral housewife is in Woodinville, Washington, 333.33.
	House selling yak karma, please.
	Okay.
	I have some karma for you.
	We are listing our house today, hoping to escape Washington state crime, COVID, and general insanity.
	Short note, save lives!
	Oh, and can you please play Shapeshifting Jews?
	Short notes save lives.
	Yes, that should be on your newsletter too.
	Short notes save lives!
	By request!
	Roll up, roll up for the basketball Shapeshifting Jews!
	Step right this way!
	Roll up!
	Roll up for the Shapeshifting Jews!
	Roll up!
	You've got... Parma.
	There's your yak!
	Casey Hamra in Shit, Texas.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Shirts.
	Shirts, Texas.
	33333.
	I have been listening for far too long and need a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Followed by some health karma.
	Thanks for all you do.
	Love and lit.
	Beautiful.
	Short notes save lives.
	You've got karma.
	Uh, Douwe Andala, Andala, is in Martensdijk, the Netherlands, 333.33 no note, that means double karma for you!
	You've got... And a reminder, the only way you can get this jingle is if you post nothing, no note.
	Joe Spry, yes.
	It's a winner.
	Mm-hmm.
	33333 in Richmond Hill, Georgia.
	In the morning.
	I have been a listener to the show since the start of the planned-demic.
	My brother hit me in the mouth and I have not missed an episode since.
	It's a great show and I hope y'all don't find an end strategy anytime soon.
	Everybody else are quacks.
	I've been closed 3-33-33 and I request a Trump Jobs Karma as I've been out of work for a few months awaiting my renewal of my TWIC card.
	I'm in the local IUA 1475 at the port of Savannah, Georgia.
	Second prettiest town in the country.
	Okay, I'm rambling.
	Thank you for the show, Joe Spry.
	I met Joe.
	Funny, didn't talk like that at all.
	Jobs!
	Jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Well, he should have.
	Oh, there's that.
	Anonymous from Glorietta, New Mexico, 333.
	Please de-douche me, sweet and simple.
	You've been de-douched.
	Listen to No Agenda show after I listened to your interview with Joe Rogan a year ago.
	Love the value for value system.
	If implemented in society, the world would look a lot better.
	Well, yes, indeed.
	I agree.
	Jingles.
	Karma and something of your choice.
	Well, when you say that, then this is what you get.
	Dealer's choice.
	And the flip.
	That's what you get.
	You've got karma.
	Dealer's choice.
	Sir Paul of the Command Line comes up from Massachusetts from Medway, as a matter of fact. $333.
	And he writes, I would like to request banning of monkey pox photos in the newsletter.
	Gross!
	Thank you for your courage, Sir Paul of the Command Line.
	Now, I will say something about this.
	I had...
	This photo and I was thinking, should I run this photo or not run this one?
	I had just watched a kind of a, a, uh, not a documentary, but like a, a, a discussion of advertising photos and how, what the reason you use pretty women is because it gets you excited to the point where you're more, you can sell somebody something easier.
	And I'm thinking, what if you grow some?
	Yeah.
	Cause I didn't like this photo either.
	Oh, okay.
	So this was a test to see if donations will be affected by grossness.
	So I put this in there, uh, and to see what would happen.
	And I did, this is the response.
	I mean, it was gruesome, but I don't know that.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if I can conclude anything.
	I should have run an AB.
	I'm going to next time I have a gruesome picture, I'm going to do an AB thing.
	So when only half the audience will get it, uh, which is what I should have done with that one.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	So yes, I was thinking about, believe me, it wasn't something I was unaware of.
	Well, I think that the cool thing about it is, you know, this monkey pox, monkey pox, it's not viral.
	You'll get monkey pox from someone breathing on you.
	Well, it happened.
	You gotta be touched by a monkey.
	Touch my monkey!
	You need a shot.
	Yes.
	Ecuador Eric is next on our list.
	Ecuador Eric is in Richmond, Virginia. 333.
	Jingles, por la mañana, Fauci wheeze, and a de-douche.
	Well, let's do that first off, a de-douche.
	You've been de-douched.
	And I have an announcement.
	Come hang at the Central Virginia 804, local 804 meetup, Sunday 522 at Bingo Beer Company from 2 to 4 p.m.
	Brewery, bar, plus arcade is party!
	Thank you boys for your courage.
	Por la mañana!
	There you go, as requested.
	Tim Osborne in Loren Netherlands, $333.
	And he writes, uh, hi TM to you gentlemen.
	Been listening since finding Adam on the Glenn Beck podcast.
	Ah!
	He's the guy!
	This is my first donation, so please de-douche me.
	Man, lots of de-douchings today.
	I love this.
	You've been de-douched.
	Thursday I have an interview for a new job and would like R2-D2, Karma.
	Magic number 33 and China is asshole.
	Bedankt!
	China is asshole!
	number it's the magic number Chinese asshole you've got karma a couple here in a row Evan Downs, 333 from Charleston, South Carolina.
	I do not have a note from Evan, although I think I remember meeting him.
	Excuse me.
	COVID.
	Yeah, long COVID.
	So he gets the double.
	You've got Karma.
	I'll do these next ones too.
	Ryan Kilgo in Houma, Louisiana, 333, says, enjoy the shrimp and grits.
	And Charles and Adam, how about some relationship karma?
	Here it is for you, Ryan.
	You've got karma.
	No.
	This is yours too.
	Well, this is, uh, apparently Kristen should have sent an email to, to my, uh, to my email.
	And let me just double check because, uh, I certainly had nothing with, uh... Well, you're checking our re-determination.
	Kristen Gattula in San Carlos, California, right?
	By our anonymous cop. $333.
	And there's no note from her, so we... But she doesn't... She did say she sent one, so we can't give her the double karma.
	We'll just wait.
	Can't give her double karma, but please make sure you resend that, because I did not see it.
	Then we have Evan and Sarah Ellen Lakey.
	Uh, who are in Charleston, South Carolina.
	$300 from them.
	Thank you.
	Please accept this long overdue donation from us two douchebags!
	We love this show and thank you for all you do.
	Hope to meet you and Tina at the Charleston meetup.
	Pretty sure we did.
	My wife is gawking at you from across the Royal American as I write this note.
	No jingles, but a good de-douching and karma request.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	So there was this one guy at the meetup and he didn't know that the meetup was taking place.
	And he was looking and he said, wait a minute, that's because he listens to the show, but he didn't know that there was a meetup.
	He was on a first date at the at the Royal American where the meetup was.
	And he came over to say, hi, good looking guy, ex-military guy.
	And I say, hey, man, what do you do?
	He says, I'm a train engineer.
	He drives the train.
	And he had this tattoo.
	I took a picture, I posted it on Twitter.
	He had a train, a locomotive engine tattoo on his bicep that was killer.
	True foamer.
	That's a foamer right there.
	Massive foamer.
	I don't think if you're working in the industry that you can be considered a foamer.
	I think that's just for amateurs that are outside of the industry that yell and scream.
	They just like to jump up and down.
	Yes.
	Baronet Sir Rogue of the Taverns in Victoria, beautiful city, B.C., 333-33.
	And he writes a very long note.
	Baronet Sir Rogue of the Taverns, a donation in Canadian dollarets, brings me to Baron.
	I would like to request this following territory, the Cowichan Valley, to include Lake Cowichan, and surrounding areas.
	I could be pronouncing that wrong.
	I would like to be Sir Rogue of the Taverns, Baron of the Cowichan Valley, since I missed the order during my nighting.
	Oh, no.
	I missed the order.
	Okay, I would like to request bamboo rum and dark chocolates added to the party.
	You can do that.
	Yeah, we already ordered that.
	You've got some of that right under your desk there.
	Yes.
	I have two of my own podcasts, Tavern Talk and WP Plugins A to Z. Woo!
	So I'm holding a multi podcast community mid Vancouver Island meetup in the road.
	Vancouver is the place everyone should go at the road cause you can't get in at the Rose Oasis and Lake Cowichan on the 25th to get the location.
	You'll need the RSVP to the meetup as there is no, is there a limit on how many people I can host in spaces limited?
	More information on no agenda, meetups.com.
	Well, thank you for a plug for that.
	For any Vancouver Island producers, visit the Honeymoon Bay Market.
	I am in stall 13 every Saturday, 10 to 2.
	All right.
	Yeah, there's a jingle cue list.
	He wants 69, 69, oh my God, that's amazing.
	Goat karma for all and jobs, jobs, jobs.
	Yeah, he does ask for some celebration horns.
	Well, we got a little of that for you.
	69!
	69, dude!
	Oh my God, that is amazing!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You thought.
	Karma.
	Anonymous Rancher, Columbus, North Dakota, 255.55.
	We love our ranchers.
	Goat Karma, please.
	This is a yearly calf check donation.
	Great shows.
	Had to donate when Adam couldn't pronounce ruminant.
	We say ruminat.
	Ruminat.
	Which means for cattle, goats, and more, they have more than one stomach, four in cattle, to help in digestion of gas- grasses.
	And all the bull ball tack was- talk was an added bonus.
	We have testicle festivals in North Dakota.
	Hello!
	Hello, Meetup.
	Hello, North- By the way- Testicle Meetup.
	Yeah.
	They have a ball.
	Hey!
	And it just gets better.
	By the way, a yak has three stomachs.
	Well, so that's also a ruminant.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Adam!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Adam, in Northwest North Dakota, we grow a fair amount of durum wheat, which makes pastas and many other crops.
	And we have had a wet spring delaying and possibly not allowing planting.
	And yes, John, we have looked into Wagyu beef and look really hard at Akoshi beef, but our climate is tough to make that pay having to feed them for so long.
	I'm not familiar with this Akoshi beef.
	Sounds good.
	I should know and I don't.
	Sorry.
	So is our rancher here telling us that there's going to be pasta shortage?
	I think he's warning us there might be a shortage.
	You know, that's funny because I get some wheat, some flowers from Barton Springs, which is a kind of a high-end place and you have to refrigerate.
	Barton Springs, Texas?
	I don't know where they are, not to mention.
	It might be Texas.
	No, I think it is Texas.
	Yeah, Spartan Springs is near Austin.
	Yeah, and they bring in wheat from all over the country and then they process it there.
	And it's all high-end wheats and they have just a lot of stuff.
	But I had some, Barton Springs I think, maybe that's what it was.
	So last year I got some of their Durham wheat and then this year when I went to buy some, and you have to keep it refrigerated because it's not aged, it's not treated with bromides or anything.
	Their Cadillac, there's no durum wheat anywhere on there, so they can't get it, it's not being made, or they dropped it, I don't know.
	I sent them a note about it, they never answered back.
	So maybe there is something going on with the durum wheat.
	Maybe this Anonymous Rancher is one of the guys who sells the wheat to these guys and other people.
	Well, Anonymous Rancher, hook up with Texas Slim, man.
	You sound like you're perfect for the beef initiative.
	That'd be fun.
	Well, thank you very much.
	You're an oryx.
	Oh, I also learned that there's a yak and a knack.
	Were you aware?
	I don't know anything.
	I probably was, but it's nothing.
	The yak has balls and the knack is a female.
	A female yak is a knack.
	Exactly!
	That's what I said, huh?
	Who knew?
	Yeah, I see more useless information.
	Josh, it's... Yes?
	And the rancher should also consider Yak.
	Big time.
	Did our doxing of your Yak dealer, did that have an effect on his business?
	I haven't asked.
	He had to disconnect his phone.
	Yeah, he should have gotten a few orders.
	Joshua Gribbon in Richmond, Victoria, Australia.
	$250.
	And he writes in, Dear John and Adam, please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	And accept my $250 Australian dollary dues from the communist state of Victoria, Melbourne.
	Thank you for all the amygdala shrinkage.
	Please call out frays and mugs.
	And give me some relationship slash house buying karma.
	Got it, Joshua.
	You've got karma.
	We're down to our associate executive producers.
	A good list today.
	Thanks also to the meetup donors.
	Joshua Gribben, Richmond, Victoria.
	No, I'm sorry, we just did that one.
	Sean Finchman, there we go, in Portland, Oregon.
	234.56 in the morning.
	John and Adam have really been enjoying the shows in recent weeks.
	Need a heavy dose of house-selling karma?
	Perhaps a twist of ghost?
	Cheers from Barron Finch.
	Always, Barron.
	You've got karma.
	Alan Dix from Spring Hill, Florida, 233.33.
	Second donation to maintain my de-douche status.
	Love you guys mean it.
	Shout out to Sir CB, provider of worldwide goat karma and chicken karma.
	No jingles, but baby formula karma for all the birthing people.
	Yes, there you go.
	You've got karma.
	222.23, it's a row of ducks with a tail.
	Anonymous in Parts Unknown.
	This is, oh, this is the Osaka Cherry viewing meetup donation.
	Osaka, Japan!
	It's the row of ducks websaw in the Osaka Castle moat.
	Oh, okay.
	This is numerology to the extreme.
	One of them was possibly not a duck, he says.
	Requesting the we've-been-waxing-the-ceiling jingle and karma for all meetups.
	Is this a thing?
	I don't remember this.
	Waxing?
	Oh, yes.
	Waxing the ceiling?
	I guess so.
	You You've got karma.
	And that's from Gitmo Nation.
	OctopusBalls, lovin' it.
	And he did send a meetup report, but I was not able to decode his PGP encryption for some reason, so we'll play that on Sunday.
	Uh, the ceiling wax thing comes from the ceiling wax, and waxing this thing, somebody was confused when we kept talking about ceiling wax.
	Yeah.
	Jonathan Keegan, baronet of Sir Psychopath in Charlotte, North Carolina, 22222.
	First off, I'd like to wish Adam and the Keeper a happy third anniversary, and I hope all of the producers enjoyed themselves in Charleston on Monday.
	With this donation, I climb to the rank of Grand Duke and Is that right?
	Grand Duke?
	Uh, Grand Duke.
	No, he's baronet.
	No, the Grand Duke.
	You better look... I mean, if you can document Grand Duke.
	Grand Duke is... That's way up there, ma'am.
	But he sent in... He sent in a napkin with his accounting.
	And he said, or we can contact Arthur Anderson with any additional accounting questions.
	We shall do that.
	I didn't see the napkin.
	Neither did I, but he says it in his note.
	So I've not, I don't know what the, I know what he's talking about.
	I'm proud to announce that none of my 12, we're going to put you on abeyance for today's show.
	Because he went from baronet to grand duke.
	You don't do that with $200.
	That's like jumping from 4chan to Tucker Carlson.
	Yeah.
	He says, I'm proud to announce that none of my 12 followers from Twitter are robots.
	No jingles, just some yak karma.
	Hmm.
	I think it's the Earl or something.
	I think, no, here's what I have.
	Hold on a second.
	You get the Baron.
	Psycho, Sir Psychopath.
	I think he meant Baron.
	He could be Baron.
	No, he's also not on the Baron list.
	Okay, well we're putting, it's in abeyance.
	We'll just do it next time.
	Don't worry, don't worry.
	If it's all good, it'll be taken care of.
	But this is just, this seems to be, we don't, we want to spare anyone any embarrassment.
	Yeah.
	So, but it's very possible.
	So we're going to give you a karma.
	Oh, you wanted yak karma.
	Sorry.
	I got yak karma for you here.
	You've got karma.
	Then we have David Miedis.
	uh David Medus, known from himself and his daughter Layla with the Fun Fact Friday.
	212.13, Pikeville, North Carolina.
	David and Layla here from Fun Fact Friday.
	Adam, sorry to put you on the spot for a fun fact at the Meetup.
	No, I loved it.
	Our live 100th episode is May 19th at 6.30 Eastern Time.
	FunFactFriday.com.
	Thank you both.
	We could use some live stream karma for the big show.
	I guess they will be on the live stream, no agenda stream.
	Go ahead, hit them up in the troll room.
	I'm gonna give you some goat karma for that, you two.
	Very good.
	You've got... karma.
	It was great to see them both.
	Okay, uh... Jesse H-R-Y-N-K-I-W.
	Which is pronounced... Hernkev.
	Hernkev?
	Bernke, I think.
	Mm-hmm.
	But he can tell us, or she can tell us later.
	Birmingham, Alabama, $200.01.
	I'd like to hear what they say that with an Alabama accent.
	Uh, happy birthday to my smokin' hot hubby, Zeke.
	He is one of the shows podcasting, one of the shows pod, slash podcasting two.
	O's bigots faves, love you.
	I think podcasting 2.0, I think, is what, uh, Oh, 2.0.
	Okay.
	Biggest faves.
	Love you forever.
	And can't wait to hit our first born.
	She mixes numbers in here.
	First born human resource in the mouth in a couple of weeks.
	Thanks, John and Adam, for all you do.
	She's on the social media too much.
	Jingles, don't trust China and respect.
	Donald Trump, don't trust China.
	China is asshole.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	Thank you very much.
	We got Andrew Baker next.
	Trafford, Missouri.
	$200.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Good.
	Thank you very much.
	I'll move straight to Sir William Lee from Austin, Texas.
	$200.
	First-time supporter, new listener.
	Well, that gives you a de-douching in our book, sir.
	You've been de-douched.
	Love the work you guys do.
	Keep up the great work.
	Your neighbor, Sir William Lee.
	Thank you, Sir William.
	I'm waving to you right now.
	And wrapping it up is Justin Spry in Richmond Hill, and he needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Thank you for your courage.
	We've been listening since Adam's first Rogan appearance.
	I was love at first listen.
	Here's 200 bucks for my smoking hot girlfriend Brianna's journey to damehood.
	Thanks for that.
	And thanks for all you do.
	Could I get a courtroom slash custody karma and a jobs karma for everyone?
	Thanks, Justin Spry.
	I think we can do this.
	Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yes, that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers.
	We will be thanking more of the in-person donations in our next segment.
	And actually, I did just want to mention briefly a couple of gifts that we received.
	I'm just grabbing the piles so I don't forget.
	A brand new holobook from Sir Jimmy.
	Got some dynamite coins from Nussbaum, including a token, a coin from the 1933 World Fair.
	With a swastika on it.
	That's great for when they come in.
	We got the silver from Sir Big Loaf of the Blaz.
	That I'll have to send portions to you.
	Dame Katie of the Unfinished Knitting Project.
	Gave me a beautiful needlepoint with on it.
	I think we probably tweeted this out.
	Wat je zeg ben jezelf met je kop door de helft.
	A nice little airplane with a 33 on it.
	Thank you for that.
	From Sir A0011001 Sauce.
	Adam and Tina, great to meet you both.
	Thank you for your courage.
	My life is truly better because of no agenda.
	Best regards.
	Oh!
	The Welches, Brandon and Kristen Welch, who were, I think, the first ones there.
	What a beautiful, fabulous couple.
	She's a photographer, and it shows when you look at her photos.
	They made a t-shirt, which is, I mean, I don't know if it's a one-off, but it's a t-shirt that says, Adam Curry, 24, firmament first.
	It's got a little picture of the flat earth and it's really beautiful.
	I shall wear that.
	Got a Dover, a forgiveness fable from Roger Roundy in one of his comic books.
	His books, not comic, but his book.
	Do you have one of those books?
	His beautiful book.
	It's like a roundy... No, I do not.
	Well, we have one for you.
	A roundy extravaganza along with the Mofax t-shirt.
	And, of course, thanks to Brandon and Kristen for the flower.
	Also, thank you to Phoenix for the flower.
	And when I say flower, you know what I mean.
	Thank you again.
	These are official titles.
	All of you get the credit.
	Executive producer or associate executive producer.
	You can use it anywhere.
	It's part of the value for value model.
	You do that.
	We do this.
	You keep everything running.
	We're appreciative.
	And if you'd like to be one of these execs or associate execs, go to devorak.org.
	And remember, it's value for value.
	We need your time, talent and treasure and the value you think it's worth.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
	Order!
	Shut up, slave!
	it was a good you know an upcoming an upcoming show I'm going to bring in I know you're gonna cringe but I have to bring in because I finally found some concise clips from the amber herd is it She is a lunatic.
	Is it possible that this is just like some really long sex game they're playing with each other?
	Uh, yeah, I think it is possible.
	I don't think, I don't think that's what it's come to, but I think that's, I think it's possible that they seem to have had a, uh, kind of a perverse relationship.
	Well, it's very perverse that you bring that to the show, but I'm sure there's a reason for it.
	So, um, yeah, I think there's a good reason is because a couple of things that just like are, uh, You know they had like five penthouses and they kept going from one to the other.
	Some testimony was, oh no, I was in penthouse four when she went and left for penthouse five and I think he was in penthouse two.
	FYI.
	What?
	Yeah, I happen to know this.
	Johnny Depp bought, I think four, I don't know if it's five, penthouses in downtown LA all in a row and he connected them all.
	Yeah, so he connected all of those penthouses, that's why.
	So you can just walk from one to the other.
	Massive house, basically.
	Shit, man.
	I'll let Johnny Depp cut me with some glass if I can live with him in the penthouse.
	You know, Bill Ziff, who had... Who doesn't know him?
	He has more money than Johnny Depp.
	He had a mansion down in Manapala.
	Manapalapolis?
	That place down in Florida.
	And the house was so big that... How big was it?
	It was so big it had... The two sides of the house were on either side of the freeway with an underground tunnel.
	Oh, that's badass.
	Under the freeway.
	That's badass.
	You hang out with good people, man.
	So you were there at that house?
	Did you walk into the free room?
	No, I've never been to his house.
	I was at the Aspen place.
	And I documented and inventoried his wine for him so we could get some things fixed.
	But in that place, it's just an example of extravagance.
	So I'm roaming around this place, which is a big mansion up in the Aspen Hills.
	And so I go, there's a big giant pool.
	And over the pool is all this foliage.
	And I'm looking and there's a bunch of lighting, this like a scaffolding with a bunch of lights and that are pointing up into the sky at the foliage.
	And I said, what's going on?
	Does this plant still get enough light?
	She says, no, no, no.
	We put that up there.
	Because when there's a big party, we like it so that when we put these lights up there, it makes the plants think that's where the sun is.
	So they start to turn around.
	And so the flowers are all facing down on the pool.
	So when people are at the party, you know, it makes it more pleasant.
	Oh, wow.
	That's planning right there.
	That's a landscaper.
	Something.
	Lots of mousetraps is all I can tell you.
	You know, it's been very interesting watching some of the things that have been coming out that are completely ignored by M5M2 and just briefly... Like everything?
	Well, briefly reaching back to NIH and Fauci.
	So there's been some FOIA requests for your Information Act and it turns out that what we were told was not true.
	It is true that National Institutes of Health research executives receive royalty payments from Big Pharma for vaccines and other medications that they helped co-invent.
	In fact, Fauci has received at least 35.
	Another key executive, 70.
	And these royalty payments are blocked out.
	70 what?
	70 payments, that's the thing.
	The actual amounts are redacted.
	I don't care if it's $1.
	It must be millions.
	But you know, this is what's cool about it.
	The taxpayers give Big Pharma, on average, during a calendar year or a budget year, $10 billion.
	It could be more.
	It might be $30.
	But let's just say $10 billion to go make vaccines and medication.
	And they do that in complete harmony with the government workers who receive salaries.
	And then when they have a hit and something's out in the market, then these government employees get royalty payments of undisclosed amounts.
	I'm glad people are seeing this.
	We were told it's bullshit, it's not true, it's wrong.
	I don't remember us being told it was bullshit.
	I thought it was a known fact.
	No, oh my goodness.
	I'll have to go look it up.
	Yeah, totally.
	So, too... Their names are on most of these patents, so they're going to get some money, let's face it.
	Well, that's how much work they actually did.
	I think they've hidden it.
	So, it's a royalty payment, not a patent royalty.
	I think NIH has the patent, the co-ownership of the patent.
	I'm not sure that it's a patent royalty.
	It's a sales royalty.
	It's a bonus check, I think.
	It's thanks for being corrupt.
	Hey, that vaccine didn't work.
	Thanks.
	Here's some money.
	Bonus.
	Now the other thing, which is just, which is entertaining to me, is that now people are seeing ESG as the, as the evil scourge that it is on the financial markets, the environmental social governance.
	And how do they know this?
	Because, oh, Tesla got kicked out of the standards and poor five hundreds ESG index.
	And so what's fun to see is people are saying, wow, man, those people suck.
	They kicked Elon and Tesla out of the ESG.
	He's making EVs, man.
	How can he get kicked out?
	He's the epitome of environmental goodness.
	And that's where you need to look at the S in ESG.
	Because why was Tesla kicked out of the ESG index, making them uninvestable?
	Uninvestable for many institutional investors, including the big ones, BlackRock being one of them, who manage institutional money.
	Why?
	Not because they don't do good EVs.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's because of racism on the work floor.
	So, this is what you're going to see.
	This is how they're going to control big public corporations with this ESG bullcrap.
	I'm so happy to see it.
	And we're also learning, again, your No Agenda show was on the ball, we learned it from the dude named Ben Protector of Megawatts, about the Texas grid.
	And the basically the Enron practices that are going on here, which led to the Snowmageddon when power was turned off for many three, four days, some even longer, paralyzed Texas.
	A lot of people died over this.
	Dave Walsh is the former president of Mitsubishi Electric, and he lays it out perfectly, which I wanted to share.
	Interestingly, it's a war room clip.
	Bannon does have good guests.
	I can't, I can't, this is what I also used to say about Alex Jones ten years ago.
	Oh yeah, no, Jones had terrific guests.
	Now, I want to mention something because you talk about birthing people.
	Okay.
	Have you seen Bannon recently?
	Is he a birthing person?
	Have you seen, you know that emoji with the pregnant male?
	Does he share this with Bill Gates?
	Is Bannon a birthing person?
	No, he makes Bill Gates look like a midget.
	Really?
	He's letting himself go?
	It looks like he's going to give birth to quadruplets.
	So Dave Walsh talks about Urquhart.
	This is the outfit, the way the Texas, just briefly, the way the Texas grid works.
	is every five minutes, there's an auction.
	And this auction is held not amongst energy providers, but people who have purchased energy sometimes five years in advance, some are hedge funds, some not even American companies, let alone Texas companies.
	And they are vying for the best price on their energy.
	And that happens every five minutes.
	And of course, when things get a little tight, You know, when things go offline or things aren't right or there's too much usage, then that price shoots up.
	Recently, just the Houston area, because a few plants were not available to provide, the price went up to thousands of dollars per kilowatt hour.
	Normally, it's about 50 bucks, 50, 60 bucks.
	And that's exactly what happened during the snowmageddon.
	And the reason is there's no incentive To think of the people of Texas who might need energy in case something goes wrong.
	So, just sharing this.
	Dave Walsh, he was in the business, he knows what he's talking about, and it's disgusting.
	If you look at the Texas model, unfortunately because of the lack of a capacity payment structure in ERCOT, which is the Texas grid, and that's a structure that allows some incentive for building a base load, continuous duty power plants like gas ones, coal plants, nuclear plants.
	No incentive to do that in Texas.
	The market shifted heavily to wind.
	Texas is 27% dependent on wind resources for its basic electrical energy.
	Which leads to tremendous instability in its grid.
	Texas reserve margins are only 8 to 9 percent.
	Nationally reserve margins are 27 percent.
	That's the amount of electricity capacity, generating capacity, that states have to exceed their demand.
	So in the worst peak times, mid-summer and or mid-winter, placed like down here in the southeast, winter's a big peak, there's enough generating capacity to easily sustain the worst peak times of the year.
	Texas has one-third of the reserve margin of the rest of the states, minus California, in the country, which leads to their heavy dependence on wind power, leads to shortages and brownouts in periods of times when it becomes excessively warm in the summer.
	But that's because of a policy they pursued on not inducing spending on conventional base load electrical power generating facilities.
	California's in a far worse position with that.
	That's why, internationally, look, and around the country, California, Texas, Australia, plagued with brownouts because of excessive dependence on intermittent, non-reliable solar and wind resources to the extent of 15, 18 percent.
	Texas, 27 percent or more of their power portfolio.
	That's not a sustainable mix of energy resources.
	It's hard to believe that Texas is just as shitty as California in that regard.
	Sounds worse.
	Yes!
	And I learned something and we got... Hill Country's not that big.
	Fredericksburg is very small.
	And there's a lot of people who have conferences and meetings out at the wineries, and it's a good place to take your organization to.
	And so I hear a lot of things from people.
	ERCOT has on its board, obviously, they've got energy providers and some of these hedge fund guys, and God knows who else is on these boards, some political figures.
	But there's also someone who reports directly to the governor of Texas to Governor Abbott, and he has a non-voting spot on the board, but he's there, an assessor, I guess you'd call him.
	He's supposed to assess and report.
	And I heard that this guy during the week was at some conference in Hill Country, and he was spotted at breakfast drinking a beer.
	So if that tells you enough about how this is being run, I don't know.
	And the guy's slamming him back in the morning.
	Yeah, I guess, Abbott.
	I mean, what they just said, that whole thing, that whole clip, that's a Republican state.
	I know, it's- How did that go that way?
	Uh, Enron!
	Money!
	Greed!
	Yeah, but Enron's long gone.
	Bad information.
	No, the people aren't gone.
	It's bad information.
	It's complete lack of understanding.
	The mainstream media is shit.
	They don't understand.
	They just read press releases and regurgitate talking points.
	They don't talk to a dude named Ben Protector of Megawatts to understand how it works.
	That's what we do.
	Talk to people who are right in the middle of it.
	Well, here's more underreported news.
	This is the, uh, changing the subject.
	Sure.
	This is Afghanistan.
	What's going on there?
	They're starving him out.
	The UN says acute hunger has spiked around the world, with a number of people facing famine rising by three million over the past year.
	But this year's spike is largely due to surging food insecurity in Afghanistan, where more than half the population is malnourished.
	Aid agencies say millions of children could starve to death.
	This week, Afghanistan got some rare attention in Congress at a hearing in which Senator Chris Murphy, a Democrat from Connecticut, quizzed witnesses about the U.S.-fueled crisis unfolding there.
	And I'd like you all to give us a little bit of advice as to how we best unlock the significant amount of money that the United States currently has in its possession and at its disposal to try to address this crisis.
	In February, President Biden authorized $3.5 billion, that's about half of FDN's frozen assets to be used, quote, for the benefit of the Afghan people.
	But three months later, we have not yet figured out what that international financing mechanism is.
	It still hasn't been set up.
	First up was David Beasley, executive director of the World Food Program, whose organization has been trying to get food directly to those in need without it passing through the government's hands.
	And so we actually sat down with the Taliban and said, look, no one's going to give you money.
	Let it go directly to us without your fingerprints being on it.
	And they, I would say, consented, but it didn't matter.
	But it worked out with money came directly to us.
	But because of the lack of funding, we're having to cut back, cut back, cut back, and at least try to reach those in need.
	Knocking on famine's door, but we've got to unleash those funds, whatever it takes, because otherwise, you either got to appropriate more dollars, and if you don't, you're going to have famine, you're going to have destabilization, which means you're going to have more migration coming out of Afghanistan, and you're going to have an extraordinary amount of recruitment by extremist groups for terrorist training activities.
	Oh my goodness!
	People are starving around the world, and bruh!
	People are going to start starving.
	People are starving in America.
	They've been starving before any of these problems.
	But I know.
	Yeah.
	Let's give it to Afghanistan.
	God, this is, this is good.
	Do you think?
	You already gave them $80 billion in armaments.
	You think they could sell this stuff on the, you know, the surplus store?
	Yeah.
	Gosh, that is very disturbing.
	Hmm.
	Talking about food.
	food in Victoria, Australia.
	There's now a agriculture legislation amendment bill on the books, which looks like it's going to pass and be signed, which will prohibit people from growing their own food.
	Because, you know, it's really important that we keep our agriculture up to spot.
	We can't have people, you know, putting contaminated stuff out there, jumping from crop to crop.
	Can't have that.
	What?
	Yeah.
	That's insanity.
	Got a note from one of our producers in the Benelux.
	In the morning from the boots on the ground in the headquarter of the biggest wholesale food distributor of food in the Benelux.
	That's Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg.
	Benelux.
	The mother company will be investing heavily in promotions of consuming bugs being the new normal.
	See, this is from inside the company.
	He doesn't say what company, but I would guess.
	Nestle's might be.
	Well, let me read on.
	This company is actively influencing chefs of restaurants and catering companies and are delivering food to almost all restaurants in the Benelux.
	Soon they'll be giving masterclasses, cook sessions, updating menus and how and and marketing on how to persuade customers to eat bugs.
	All this will be given for free to promote the consumption of bugs.
	All for a better climate.
	And he actually sent me, sent me a magazine about the, I think it's called Eating Bugs Magazine.
	He says it's coming.
	There's no stopping it.
	I love a subscription to Eating Bugs.
	We should probably make a, you know, I think we, you know, we are kind of uniquely positioned to make a bug cookbook.
	Let's be honest.
	I mean, it's disgusting, but... When you do a cookbook, the rule is you have to taste all the recipes.
	Okay, well, let's scrap that idea.
	That's not going to work.
	I have one, kind of an updated clip, since we should get this out of the way.
	Wait, just before you go, I just want to mention a couple more things about... More bugs?
	Yes, about food in general.
	You know, the UK inflation jumped to 9%.
	40-year high for them.
	Food and energy prices, of course, at the top of the list.
	And the Bank of England has warned of apocalyptic global food shortage.
	Sri Lanka is in that moment right now.
	The Prime Minister came out and made a big statement, says, look, we don't have money for petrol for tomorrow.
	He said, we got no money.
	We got nothing to do.
	It's going to be shit.
	I don't know how we're going to fix it.
	And that's just one of, what do we hear from WION, one of 65 countries.
	I don't think it's good what's happening here.
	And it's really not being discussed.
	Except here.
	I think it's being discussed.
	We discuss it all the time.
	Except here.
	That's what I said.
	Except here.
	No, I think there's other people.
	I think, not sure.
	Uh, it's not being discussed as like the election, which I have a clip of wrapping up, or it's not being discussed like giving more money to the, to Ukraine.
	That's not being discussed like that.
	It's not being discussed like the shooting in Buffalo, New York.
	No, it's not being discussed like Roe versus Wade.
	Those three items chew up two thirds of the news cycle.
	Yes.
	Now the only food, it's not being discussed.
	The only food, yeah.
	The only food the M5M is giving us is toxic stew.
	That's all we get to eat here.
	You know, you mentioned the pregnant man emoji.
	Birthing person, sorry.
	Steve Bannon, Bill Gates.
	So there was one of these, let's show how crazy everybody is in the Senate, in Congress sessions, where the whole thing is just meant to get soundbites, to show everyone how crazy the other side is.
	I think Congressman Johnson did a pretty good job with this woman.
	I don't know who she is.
	I don't care to look it up.
	It's all theater, but I just wanted to play the 50 seconds as intended.
	So abortion should be allowed then, by your definition, for any reason, for any purpose, at any stage, right?
	I trust people to make decisions about their body, and then when relevant, I think that they need to consult their medical practitioners, and not Congress.
	Listen, let me just ask you this question.
	If it is not lawful and morally acceptable to take the life of a 10-year-old child, I assume you agree with that, right?
	That would be wrong, correct?
	I believe that.
	Okay.
	And a two-year-old child, same thing, that would be murder.
	We would all agree that's wrong.
	Then what is the principal distinction between the human being that is two years old, or nine months old, or one week old, or an hour old, than one that is eight inches further up the birth canal in the utero?
	What's the difference?
	Why is it okay in the latter case and not the former cases?
	I trust people to determine what to do with their own bodies.
	Wow.
	Full stop.
	Yeah.
	That's full stop.
	That's your clickbait for today.
	That's what everybody wants.
	Oh, let's be outraged!
	Full stop.
	Now, should we just talk about the fun factor?
	We have such a fun factor that's come back into our lives.
	I'm so happy that she's with us.
	Hillary?
	No, Kareena Abdul-Jean-Pierre!
	Oh God, she's the worst.
	I love Karina Abdul-Jean-Pierre.
	She is going to save the humor of the show.
	And it's really beautiful.
	This is Jen Psaki's replacement.
	Ha!
	Replacement theory at work.
	White woman, red hair, replaced by black woman.
	She's actually a member of four, four protected classes.
	She's a woman.
	She's a woman of color.
	She is a member of the LGBTQ plus community and she's an immigrant.
	So no matter what she does, no matter what happens, nobody can really do too much about it because you will be, uh, let's see, a racist, misogynist, bigot, uh, and a homophobe.
	And Tucker Carlson, I guess, took her to task.
	I did not see this episode, but people sent me his supercut.
	Did you see his supercut?
	No, I did not.
	So, Corrine was an MSNBC contributor prior to this fabulous... It's interesting how She was at MSNBC, is going into the State Department, and Jen Psaki from the White House is now going to MSNBC.
	So it's kind of a swap, if you will.
	And she's also married to a CNN reporter.
	So, I see no conflict.
	Let's listen to how she spoke about President Trump for much of her tenure during her MSNBC days.
	Donald Trump is running a racist campaign.
	The grand wizard of the birther movement, which birtherism is inherently racist.
	By the way, he's a racist and a bigot, which we already knew.
	If it walks like a racist, talks like a racist, acts like a racist, it is a racist.
	And we saw all these awful voter suppression laws, which is really racism just across the country.
	And we have a racist president in the White House who really pushes his racism like a peacock.
	Because I'll say this, we knew Donald Trump was a racist.
	I wanted to ask you, just change the topic for just a quick second, about Donald Trump's racist tweets.
	Systemic racism and how that has affected our country.
	Donald Trump is the most outwardly racist president that we have seen in generations.
	This country needs to start talking about uprooting institutional racism.
	Fox News was racist before coronavirus.
	They are racist during the coronavirus.
	Fox News will be racist after the coronavirus.
	Ah, beauty.
	I will say, Tucker's production team could learn a lot from our producers when it comes to super cuts.
	You know, they need to flow into each other, not this... it's like a hard stop almost between each clip.
	They're kind of thrown together.
	That was not really good, but... Usually the super cuts he has that are good are done by someone outside.
	But wouldn't you say that's kind of disqualifying for someone who was going to be the spokesperson for the White House?
	I wouldn't hire her.
	No.
	Let's just get one example, and then as time progresses, if she makes it, maybe we'll hear more.
	I don't know if she may flip out.
	It's just been beautiful to see how she can't answer questions.
	She has none of the training that Saki had.
	Saki, when she was at State Department, she learned from the best, from Toria, Toria Newland, the destroyer.
	Yeah, and she was also being grilled by Matt.
	Exactly.
	Real grilling and Toria taught Jen how to use the tabs.
	the tab in the big binder and flip back and forth and look at it and know exactly what to say.
	On the fly.
	On the fly, really good.
	Karine Abdul-Jean-Pierre, not so.
	Karine, congratulations.
	Nice to see you up there.
	Thank you.
	The president's Twitter account posted the other day, you want to bring down inflation, let's make sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share.
	How does raising taxes on corporations reduce inflation?
	Now, this is a good question.
	I also question, how does raising taxes on corporations help inflation?
	Do you have an idea about that, John?
	Well, what it does is that as soon as they get a higher tax bill, they pass it on to the consumer, so the consumer can pay more money.
	Doesn't that raise inflation?
	than they paid in the past before the corporations were overtaxed.
	So thus, it means that you pay out more than you would have before, and that automatically fights inflation.
	Doesn't that raise inflation?
	You're a Nazi.
	I think homophobe is the one you were looking for.
	Yeah, you're a homophobe.
	His question actually, now that I think about it...
	His question is... Listen to the question.
	Oh, reduce inflation.
	I thought it was help inflation.
	It helps inflation, but it doesn't reduce it.
	Twitter account posted the other day, you want to bring down inflation, let's make sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share.
	How does raising taxes on corporations reduce inflation?
	Oh, reduce inflation.
	I thought it was help inflation.
	It helps inflation, but it doesn't reduce it.
	We just heard it from you.
	So are you talking about a specific tweet?
	This is how the tab book works.
	There's a tweet, and every tweet the president hands out, or whatever Joe Bama tweets, there's a tab so that she can respond to it, because, you know, Joe's crazy.
	He tweets crazy shit, so they have to have some kind of crisis meeting about every single one, even though it's Joe Bama.
	So now she can't, she's, what tab is that?
	So, are you talking about a specific tweet?
	He tweeted, you want to bring down inflation, let's make sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share.
	Look, you know, we have talked about, um, we have talked about this this past year, uh, about, um, making sure that the wealthiest among us are paying their fair share.
	Um, and that is important to do.
	And, uh, that is something that, uh, you know, the president has been working on.
	She's like Miss South Carolina teen.
	Wait, do we have, can we do an AB here?
	See if you can find it, it's under South Carolina, Miss South Carolina, Teen USA, something like that.
	A fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S.
	on a world map.
	Why do you think this is?
	Okay, so, alright, this is, let's ask this question again.
	Okay, here we go.
	Kareem, congratulations.
	Nice to see you up there.
	Thank you.
	The President's Twitter account posted the other day, you want to bring down inflation, let's make sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share.
	How does raising taxes on corporations reduce inflation?
	I personally believe that U.S.
	Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have that and I believe that our education, like such as in Yes, correct.
	Beautiful answer.
	Beautiful, beautiful.
	everywhere like such as and I believe that they should our education over here and then you that should help the US should help South Africa it should help direct and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future yes correct beautiful answer beautiful beautiful let's go to the candidate from Haiti so Are you talking about a specific tweet?
	Can I have the question again?
	You want to bring down inflation.
	Let's make sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share.
	Look, you know, we have talked about this this past year, about making sure that the wealthiest among us are paying their fair share.
	And that is important to do.
	And that is something that, you know, the president has been working on every day when we talk about inflation and lowering costs.
	And so it's very important that, you know, as we're seeing costs rise, as we're talking about how to, you know, build an America that's safe, that's equal for everyone, that doesn't leave everyone behind, that is an important part of that as well.
	But how does raising taxes on corporations lower the cost of gas, the cost of a used car, the cost of food for everyday Americans?
	So look, I think we encourage those who have done very well, right?
	Especially those who care about climate change to support a fair tax code that doesn't change, that doesn't charge manufacturers, workers, cops, builders a higher percentage of their earnings.
	That the most fortunate people in our nation and not let that stand in the way of reducing energy costs and fighting this existential problem, if you think about that as an example.
	And to support basic collective bargaining rights as well, right?
	That's also important.
	But without having a fairer tax code, which is what I'm talking about, then manufacturing workers, cops, you know, it's not fair for them to have to pay.
	Cops.
	than the folks who are not paying taxes at all.
	What does that have to do with inflation?
	The president said, you want to bring down inflation, let's make sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share.
	Jeff Bezos came out and tweeted about that.
	He said the newly created disinformation board should review this tweet.
	Would you be okay with that?
	Look, it's not a huge mystery why one of the wealthiest individuals on earth, right?
	Right.
	Opposing economic agenda that is for the middle class that cut some of the biggest cost families face fights inflation for the long haul.
	Right.
	And that's what we're talking about.
	That's why we're talking about lowering inflation here and adds to the historic deficit reduction.
	The president is achieving by asking the richest taxpayers and corporations to pair their fair share.
	That is what we're talking about.
	OK, you get clip of the day for bringing that dumb shit on board.
	Well, I'll only accept it once because she'll be back more often than you think.
	She's gonna keep coming back.
	This is the gift that keeps on giving.
	She said nothing there.
	She doesn't know what she's talking about.
	I don't even know if she knows what inflation is.
	No, she has no idea except prices high, taxes, climate change, more...
	I'm hoping that she has a meltdown.
	She looks like she could have one.
	Yeah, she does look high strung.
	She's been fawned over by MSNBC for years.
	And she could say anything she wanted.
	You heard it.
	Racist!
	Anything she wanted to say, fawned over.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yes.
	I mean, this to me is on par with the Scary Poppins.
	I mean, they are bringing in the truly radical for these jobs.
	But they can't even do the jobs.
	This is the problem, and it's so apparent when you listen to that, what she said right there.
	She sounded just like Miss South Carolina.
	I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
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	Oh, really?
	Or some commentary.
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	So that's a switcheroo.
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	She wants to call out her brother, Jason Missick, for still being a douchebag.
	And she also wants a de-douching, it's her first donation, so we gotta give her that.
	You've been de-douched.
	And she straightened us out on the ruminants, which we already did on the show, and she wanted some jingles, but we don't do jingles in this segment.
	Give her husband credit.
	Allow me to grab the next three, because these were in-person donations at the meetup, and we do like to do that when people show up.
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	We hit everyone in the mouth, though.
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	I'm surprised he wasn't at the meetup.
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	And we have a long note, and I want to... That's worth posting.
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	It's a night, but it's an extremely long note in the $50 section, and this happens twice in today's show.
	And I want to...
	Yeah, I agree.
	read a lot of notes and some of them are very long but it takes up so much of the show and to now start throwing this into the $50 section I find it personally you know an affront to the audience at large and I wish it stopped doing it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah I agree.
	Now you're not talking about Bruce, you're talking about Michael?
	Well I don't know who I'm talking about in this first case because I can't, it's yes Michael.
	Alright.
	Because it's clogged up my spreadsheet.
	Yes.
	So he does have a birthday, and he will be knighted Sir Lavish Knight of Divided and Conquered California and the Dirty Sack Delta and surrounding territories at Al.
	At all.
	And he does want seared tri-tip and a case of Russian River Blind Pig at the round table.
	His birthday is on the 29th, so he's in for that.
	But I agree with you.
	I mean, it's really taking away from... It's too long.
	And it's in the wrong spot.
	I'm in agreement with you.
	And then coming up is Victor Munoz, who has a similar note.
	Not quite as long, but it's pretty long.
	Right, we'll get to that.
	Right, but first we have Sir Daniel, who was at the meetup in Charleston.
	We appreciate that.
	$60 from him.
	You don't have a note or anything?
	I have no note from him.
	I have nothing.
	Gergana Yankova in Chesham, UK, $56.78.
	Keegan Sullivan in Peoria, Illinois, $56.24.
	And now you have your other knight.
	Yes, this is Victor Munoz from Keller, Texas.
	...who moved from South Florida to North Texas and resumed his monthly donation.
	Now, to be honest, he has made this through monthly donations, so we do like to applaud when people do this.
	And he says, for listeners that feel they'll never reach knighthood, I can assure you that getting on a monthly donation subscription will get you a seat at the table before you know it!
	And he will be known as Sir Vic, Knight of the Threat Hunters, and he is requesting some Fleur... is it Fleur de Cagnes Nicaraguan Rum?
	Florida Caña, Nicaraguan rum, and Cuban croquettes at the round table.
	And so ordered, so done.
	They're ready for you.
	Yeah, it would be Caña.
	Oh, and he also wants us to add his smoking hot wife Margie to the birthday list for today.
	Yes, done.
	She's on it.
	Yep.
	Andrea Taylor in Nampa, Idaho, 5537.
	And this is a switcheroo.
	Happy 37th for a spoken out husband, Tim.
	And a de-douching for him.
	He homeschools their two human resources.
	She's so grateful.
	You've been de-douched.
	Dean Roker, 5510, UK.
	Richard Futter, London, UK, 5510.
	Rachel Gabriel in Tucson, Arizona, 55.
	Uh, she needs a de-douching for her husband.
	And this is another switcheroo.
	This goes to her husband, Rick, who is celebrating his birthday today.
	Oh, yesterday, on the 18th.
	Got it.
	Bayo Fedecky.
	...in Kannapolis, North Carolina.
	First-time donor, 51-14.
	Christopher Pike, 51, in Garrard, Kansas.
	Zach Boyles in Edgewater, Florida, 50-69.
	Sir Luca the Earl of London in the Southeast London, UK, 50-55.
	Collective Karma, we'll put that at the end for you.
	Sergeant Postal in Miami Lakes, Florida, $50.33.
	Paul Rader in Boise, Idaho, $50.33.
	Listening Sense, Joe Rogan.
	Cameron Lindemood in Garland, Texas, $50.05.
	And now the following people are $50 donors.
	Name and location, if I have the location.
	Sumitra Saravana in Fredericksburg, Virginia, $50.
	Sir Mark, The Wandering Knight, Box Elder, South Dakota, 50.
	He's requesting rain stick, and I'm not prepared to do rain stick at the moment.
	We have created so much rain and flood, and he says that they need rain in Arizona, New Mexico.
	Yeah, they do.
	I need to evaluate it because we've gotten into big trouble.
	We'll put it under advisement.
	Under advisement, thank you.
	Jared Armitage in Kahi'i, Hawaii.
	Andrew Gusick, Sir Andrew, in Greensboro, North Carolina.
	Stephen Schumach in Xenia, Ohio.
	Sean Avery in Los Angeles, California.
	Sir Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
	David Celona in Michelona, Madisonville, Louisiana.
	James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey.
	Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois.
	Christopher Campion in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
	Josh Adair in Floating around somewheres in the military or using military boxes.
	Paul Dubois in Kerrhonks in New York.
	Rob Nunmaker in Missouri City, Texas.
	What a name.
	Michael Janczak in Sun Prairie, Wisconsin.
	A lot of 50s today.
	Summer Norris in Denver.
	Kevin Kurtz in Charleston.
	Lorenzo Rojo.
	Hold on a second, John.
	Kevin Kurtz in Charleston.
	That was in a meetup donation.
	Lorenzo Rojo.
	It says, happy birthday Dame Jennifer.
	Now you can add bundler to your resume.
	And he added the $50 to the donation pile.
	Thanks, Lorenzo.
	And that's it.
	That was the last one, right?
	Yep.
	I'll just, even though we never read anything from under the $50 level, a few more in-person donations.
	They are highly appreciated.
	And they gave you the okay.
	They gave us the okay.
	They signed it away.
	They signed it on the piece of paper that Dame Jennifer gave them.
	Anonymous, $40.
	Rick PK, $40.
	Both parts unknown.
	And, uh, we read the SirA00110001 sauce.
	Uh, Sean, and we have Evan Mulch from Spartanburg, South Carolina with $20.
	And Michael Hemp Money from Charleston.
	Uh, he, uh, Michael, he is Hemp Money on No Agenda Social, also $20.
	And I think that is, I think that's everything.
	Double check.
	Yes.
	So, thanks everybody for coming to our meetup, making it a great success.
	Thank you all for supporting the show.
	Thank you for coming in when we needed it.
	And also, if you're on one of these subscriptions, those are incredibly important.
	If you're not, please consider doing that.
	These sustaining donations make a big deal to the show.
	And if you'd like to find out more, go to a meetup or perhaps check out our donation page!
	Go karma for everybody who may need it!
	You've got Karma. Karma. Karma. Karma.
	It's your birthday, birthday I'm so much younger And here is your list for today Jesse Hernke, her smoking hot hubby, Zeke, celebrated on the 16th.
	She says happy birthday.
	Of course, everyone says happy birthday to Dame Jennifer, who celebrated on the 17th.
	Rachel Gabriel, her husband, Rick, turned 55 yesterday.
	I believe our very own Eric Beshear also celebrated his birthday yesterday.
	He was not on the list, so I added him manually.
	Victor Munoz, his Smokin' Hot wife Margie, it's her birthday today.
	Happy birthday!
	Matthew Shock, 33 tomorrow.
	Andrea Taylors, his happy birthday with Smokin' Hot husband Tim Taylor, 37 on the 21st.
	And Michael Zavala, or Zavala, will be celebrating on the 29th.
	And of course, congratulations to my beautiful wife, Tina the Keeper.
	Three years and we never had a fight!
	And I wanted to add Brennan Lawton to the list.
	He's got the same birthday as Eric, and he is the boyfriend of Jay.
	One title change, and of course we do have one in a band, so we'll learn more about that as we get information.
	Today, Baronet Sir Rogue of the Taverns becomes Sir Rogue of the Tarens of the Taverns, Baron of the Kowichan, Kowichan, Kowichan Valley.
	I got it out there.
	Thank you very much, Baronet, now Baron, for your support of the knowage in the show.
	You can get another $1,000.
	And then we have two knights, two knightings.
	Here's the blade.
	There you go.
	Nice.
	Let's do that.
	Up on the stage, please!
	Michael Zavala and Victor Munoz.
	Both of you have supported the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	That gives you a coveted seat here at the No Agenda Roundtable.
	And I am proud to pronounce the K.V.
	as Sir Lavish, Knight of Divided and Conquered California and the Dirty Sack Delta and Surrounding Territories et al.
	And Sir Mick, Night of the Threat Hunters!
	For you gentlemen, we've got hookers and blow rent boys and chardonnay.
	Bamboo rum and dark chocolate seared tri-tip in a case of Russian River blind pig.
	Florida, Canyon, Nicaraguan rum and some Cuban croquettes.
	Of course, Rubenes, Wouner and Rosé, Geishas and Sake, Vodka, Mille Blanc, Hits and Bourbon, sparkling cider, Nesquik, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pavlum.
	And yeah, the mutton and mead.
	The mutton and mead is what everybody loves while you're drinking the mead.
	Go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	Give us all your information so we can send those rings to you, the wax for the ceiling, and of course, your certificate of authenticity.
	And thank you very much for supporting your No Agenda show.
	No Agenda Meetups.
	It's not your holiday.
	A couple of meetup reports.
	We have the Madras, Oregon meetup report, which should be Madras, Madras, Madras.
	I have a pronunciation guide.
	Madras.
	Rhymes with address, like a dress book.
	Madras, Madras.
	John and Adam, here's the report for Saturday, May 14th meetup at Mecca Grade in Madras.
	Turnout was pretty light.
	It was just my lovely better half, Dame Drea, myself, the proprietor Seth, and the Mecca Grade crew.
	We enjoyed all of the beers they offered and many hours of non-triggering conversation while enjoying local live music.
	If you're in Central Oregon, I highly recommend you check out Mecca Grade's 1,000-acre farm and tasting room.
	It's off the beaten path, but certainly worth the trip.
	Thanks for all you do.
	M of the Mid-Valley, a.k.a.
	MX Adam, Mecs Adam, something like that.
	Uh, you know, at the, uh, there were some guys yelling at the, uh, at the South Carolina meetup that we need a no agenda dating app, to which I said, what do you think the meetups are?
	I mean, there are, there, romances have come out of these meetups.
	And I think we'll have a, we will see at minimum two weddings this year from no agenda meetups, if not more.
	And here's one you could go to on May 23rd.
	N.A.
	producers and producers alike, come to the Victoria Day National Patriots Bash.
	Let's bash some heads near Victoria on Vancouver Island, not Vancouver, Adam.
	It's easy as 1 p.m., May 23, 4 Mile Restaurant.
	Bring your shillelagh for a bloody good time.
	And there was a meet-up in my old stomping ground, where I used to live, in Guildford, in the United Kingdom, at the White House, and surprisingly, it sounds like there were quite a number of human resources.
	Hey, John and Adam, this is internet personality Rube, and we're at the White House in Guildford, where mac and cheese is not on the menu.
	Hi, this is Chris G. My decade of dishbaggery must come to an end soon.
	Sorry, John and Adam, I will become an instantite soon.
	In the morning, Adam and John cracking buzz.
	This is Malcolm at the Guildford No Agenda meeting.
	Oh John, that's it.
	That's it.
	Cracking buzz.
	That's our new nickname.
	Nicknames.
	Crackin' Buzz.
	In the morning, Adam and John, Crackin' Buzz.
	This is Malcolm at the Guilford No Agenda Meetup.
	Having a great time, everyone's having a great time.
	I donate, but I'm a struggling 20-year-old student, and I can assure you, however, that I am switched on and turned on.
	No comment.
	From the FEMA region of the UK, in the morning.
	This is Mike at the Guildford meet-up.
	We're getting eaten alive by Bill Gates' mosquitoes here.
	A dude named Ben, named Ben, from down under.
	In the morning, John Adam.
	This is Gergana, the Bulgarian.
	Lovely evening.
	Thank you.
	And a big shout-out to Paolo, who made it down, but unfortunately had to leave earlier.
	Gilford.
	Good old Gilly.
	Thank you very much, everybody.
	Here's what's happening MeetupWise.
	Today, Charlotte's Thursday, 3rd Thursday, 7 o'clock.
	Tonight at Ed's Tavern, Charlotte, North Carolina.
	Tomorrow, where the Western Simulation begins, 6 o'clock, Dino's Live, Haltom City, Texas.
	Saturday, Flight of the No Agenda 028, 11 a.m.
	Pacific Time, Ania's Kitchen, El Monte, California.
	Also on Saturday, HOCALS Local Spring Edition, noon, Sand City South, Lindenhurst, New York.
	Where else for the HOCALS?
	Also on Saturday, the Shrunken Amygdala Support Group, 2 o'clock at Taft's Bruporium, Cincinnati, Ohio.
	North Idaho Sanity Brigade, 2 o'clock Pacific at the Growler Guys, Kerr-Dalene, Idaho.
	Saturday, the Resist We Much SenCal Meetup, 2.30 p.m.
	Barrel House Brewing Company Tap Room, Fresno, California.
	The Central Virginia Local 804 Two O'Clock Bingo Beer Corporation, Richmond, Virginia.
	And that's on Sunday.
	Also on Sunday, the Slaves Meetup, 3.33 p.m.
	Eastern Shelter One in Blacksburg, Virginia.
	And let's see, finally we have The Texas Piney Woods Meetup, the third revision, 4-33, p.m.
	Central at Rotolo's Pizzeria in Longview, Texas.
	There's a whole mess of them for May, for June, and into July, and we're already into August.
	Make sure you go check them out.
	No dating apps necessary.
	This is where you could find your future soulmate, or just someone to hang out with and drink beers.
	Noagendameetups.com.
	If you can't find one near you, start one.
	It's always a pate.
	You wanna go hang out with all the nights and days?
	You wanna be where you want to be.
	Drink it all, hail the flame.
	You wanna be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	You got isos?
	I have none, you win.
	Oh, I was hoping you would have some because I don't think mine are any good.
	There's always a good one.
	Here we go.
	I don't want to eat bugs.
	I like it, but it's not understandable.
	I don't want to eat bugs.
	That's Isla.
	What's this one?
	The path to power is the path to the teleprompter.
	And this is the last one I have.
	Oh, no, no.
	That's all I got.
	Was that last one?
	That's the last one.
	Oh, no, no.
	Oh, no, no.
	I like it.
	Yeah?
	Okay.
	It's usable.
	Oh, thank goodness.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just put that in its slot.
	It's usable, but it's not the best we've done.
	I would say that it's time for... time to take us back to the 1970s as we continue to track everything that's happening, the complete replay of those groovy bell-bottom days!
	It's time now for No Agenda 70s Flashback!
	Yeah!
	Name a big TV show from the 70s, John, and I'll blow your mind.
	A what?
	Name a big TV show.
	A big TV show from the 70s?
	A big TV show.
	It was a weekly.
	It was a, it was a, like a sitcom, a sitcom.
	No, in that, right in the right area, in the right, in the right realm.
	No.
	The Love Boat.
	Oh, yeah.
	Big, big show.
	So, we could have come up with this.
	Pissed at us.
	We are not doing the job of television producers.
	CBS' fall lineup has a reality show called The Real Love Boat.
	It's such an obvious one.
	You've got the cruise industry needing to do some extra marketing.
	You throw a bunch of people on a cruise ship.
	You get them drunk.
	You gotta program.
	And, when people get voted off, they actually get thrown overboard.
	They get thrown in the drink.
	They get thrown in the drink.
	We could have come up with this one.
	I'm a little pissed we didn't, actually.
	Well, if we started going through old TV shows, we'd come up with a lot of these.
	I have one last clip.
	Okay.
	Which, just to get us out of the way, out of the election stuff, because everyone's freaked out because Trump is endorsing this guy and that guy.
	And some of these guys are winning, right?
	A lot of them.
	They say about half, but I say most of them.
	And here's the NPR report.
	Notice you find a little propaganda in here.
	Results from yesterday's primary elections are showing something of a mixed bag for candidates supported by former President Donald Trump.
	Trump's pick for the GOP race for the U.S.
	Senate prevailed in North Carolina, Ted Budd easily winning there, but his pick in Pennsylvania, Dr. Mehmet Oz, remains locked in a tight fight with Dave McCormick.
	In the PA governor's race, another Trump-backed contender, Douglas Mastroianno, defied even his own party's efforts to deny him the nomination.
	Mastroianno spread lies about the 2020 vote count, but still won with a commanding lead.
	Lies!
	Lies!
	He spread lies!
	This guy's a problem.
	They did not expect this guy to get to where he is.
	Spread lies!
	He's a liar!
	It's all lies!
	They hate these guys.
	Yeah, well, that's what it is.
	Hey everybody, that was our show for today.
	Thank you for supporting us.
	And hang around, because coming up next on noagenderstream.com, we have Who Are These Podcasts?
	live in Nashville, then two live shows on the stream after that, Fun Fact Friday, followed by Hog Story.
	It's a bonanza on the stream!
	And you should listen to him in a podcasting 2.0 app.
	I think Podverse and CurioCaster do the live stuff now, so make sure you check that out.
	And, uh, end of show mixes, Professor JJ.
	We got some ugly Ola Puke who's just on a roll.
	And our very own GWFF, The Cock.
	With a perfect Louie Louie rendition for John's collection.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
	6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, and despite all reports, we still have power.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday with another deconstruction of your M5M.
	Anything else happening in your world, trust no other sources.
	Until then, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA.
	And adios, mofos!
	and such.
	Here we come.
	Monkeypox!
	You might want to get away now, because I was chatting with a monkey just before.
	Two more monkeypox cases identified in England, but they are in the same household.
	And this is the new disease that will kill us all slash do nothing, because that's the new big thing the media can scare us with.
	Monkey Box is a rare viral infection that does not spread easily between people.
	It's usually mild and self-limiting, but that's not going to stop the media from using it to scare us all.
	After two years, extraordinary and unprecedented damage as a result of trying to control the virus.
	If someone mentions a new virus, I don't care.
	I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Bill Gates is behind this, because Covid didn't quite work out for him.
	Maybe he's been in his lab and instead of winged monkeys, he's got pod monkeys.
	You do look a little pasty tonight, and you've got some unusual bumps on your hand.
	You might want to get away now, because I was chatting with a monkey just before, and this is the new disease that will kill us all, slash do nothing.
	That's some swinging in attire.
	Yeah, well, that would do it.
	Hey, hey, we're the monkeys And people say we monkey around But we're too busy singing To pull anybody down Monkey pops!
	Or some swinging in a tire.
	Yeah, well, that would do it.
	If someone mentions a new virus, I don't care.
	And this is the new disease that will kill us all slash do nothing.
	Let's start with the thief who has given another inspiring and coherent speech.
	Of course I'm joking.
	We're talking about Kamala Harris.
	I am the Count.
	They call me the Count because I love to count things.
	We will work together and continue to work together to address these issues together, to tackle these challenges together, and to work together as we continue to work together.
	Operating from the new norms, rules, and agreements together.
	That we will convene together.
	To work together on.
	To galvanize together.
	Global action together.
	With that, I thank you all.
	This is a matter of urgent priority for all of us.
	And I know we will work on this together.
	Keep going.
	All together now.
	A pundit described every Kamala Harris speech as sounding like someone delivering a book report on a book that quite clearly hadn't read.
	I wish she would have said something about working together.
	This wasn't just off the top of her head.
	She was actually reading a script.
	That was a lot of...
	Don't you have the entire collection of every version of Louie Louie?
	I'm always on the lookout for other versions.
	I have about 40.
	Hit it!
	Jumsy Jumsy!
	Oh!
	Hey-oh!
	Said you gotta go home!
	Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!
	Jumsy Jumsy!
	Oh!
	Hey-oh!
	Said you gotta go home!
	Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!
	All the wine in the world, it waits for he.
	One good mile out of which he see.
	Ain't buying nothing, second half of the show.
	He got ants, rarely leaves his home.
	John say, John say, oh!
	He said, you gotta go.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, There's no sweat off my balls.
	Jumsey, Jumsey!
	Oh!
	Hey-ho!
	Said you gotta go.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Hi-ya, Jumsey, Jumsey!
	Oh!
	Hey-ho!
	Said you gotta go.
	I used to work at this radio station in college called KFJC.
	And one day I'm listening to it, and I have it on my radio still.
	This is a good station.
	And one day some guy played Louie Louie, one hour of Louie Louie.
	They always did for Louie Louie.
	I said, hell, I'm gonna start collecting Louie Louie.
	And so I started collecting them too.
	So I got off KFJC, and you were on air?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Hey, everybody, it's JCD here on KFJC.
	You put the JC in and KFJC gets the JC.
	I was on air and doing radio plays.
	The Lord knows he'll never buy no crypto.
	Keeps a track on the Zephyr, let the squad marks know.
	If it's good yak meat, he'll take a look.
	Whilst checking pre-orders at the theater, come on!
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying!
	Yeah, you gotta go!
	The best podcast in the universe!
	MoFo.
	Dvorak.org.

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