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1213: Kung Flu

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	No, no, no, no thanks.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, February 2nd, 2020.
	This is your award-winning Game My Nation Media Assassination Episode 1213.
	This is No Agenda.
	Watching Sander Surge and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	From northern Silicon Valley, where it's the 33rd day of the year.
	It's also 2-2-20-20.
	There's a lot of things going on today.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Clackpot and Buzzkill!
	In the morning!
	Well-timed, well-prepared, as always.
	Very impressed.
	Very, very good.
	It says Super Bowl Sunday.
	It's Groundhog Day.
	It's all these things.
	It's everything.
	Woo-hoo!
	That's right.
	Oh my goodness, how you doing?
	I'm doing better than the Chinese.
	Yeah, Chinese everywhere.
	Christina was telling me that in the Netherlands, if you see Chinese walking around, or anyone with a surgical mask for that matter, walk around them.
	There's a lot of...
	The French Asians are saying that they're being racially profiled, carrying signs.
	Je suis...
	Je suis non pas un virus.
	Signs like I'm not a virus.
	It's...
	People can be so cruel.
	Well, this came up at the dinner table conversation.
	Apparently, JC dug deep into the whole thing and found some interesting little factoids here that may be something people can at least discuss.
	Before we start, we have a small conundrum.
	We need a quick sidebar for a production meeting.
	I have not one, not two, not three, but four Wuhan flu jingles to choose from for the segment, and I think we might as well listen to all of them just so we understand.
	Okay, first I want to voice my objection.
	Hello?
	Yeah, I'm listening.
	You said you want to voice your objection.
	I'm listening.
	I was in agreement with the idea of calling it the Wuhan flu, but since it's not an influenza virus per se, it's a misnomer, and I don't like to promote such things, and so I've gone back into calling it the coronavirus.
	Well, good.
	Good, you can do that.
	Everybody was down flu fighting And only Wuhan dying And it was a little bit frightening So that's the Kung Flu fighting from Sir Chris.
	Sadly, no one picked up on your objection of coronavirus.
	I got myself a case of Wuhan flu I don't know what I am supposed to do Didn't know I had it when I gave it to you Now we all got the Wuhan flu All right, so we've got that one.
	Wuhan flu seemed to be a popular phrase.
	Wuhan flu!
	Ooh!
	And the last candidate.
	It's time now for another Wuhan flu update.
	All right.
	So I have some feelings about these.
	The fourth one was clearly racist.
	So I think that could be dropped.
	The second one I like the best.
	The second one...
	George Thorogood cloned...
	No, no, not George Thorogood.
	It's Bob Seger.
	Bob Seger.
	George Thorogood, Bob Seger, pretty similar.
	But that one I like the best.
	The first one I think had the most potential, but...
	Didn't have enough snapping sounds and other kind of sound effects.
	Yeah, you need to go quack, quack, quack.
	So this is the one.
	That's the one you like, right?
	Yeah, I think so.
	All right, good.
	Good, good, good, good, good.
	Old time Wuhan flu.
	Yes.
	Now, is this the research paper that's been floating around?
	Is that what Buzzkill Jr.
	looked into with the inserted for HIV-like...
	No.
	...whatever they're called, proteins?
	No.
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	He started looking at ethnocentric data regarding disease vectors.
	He's such an exciting man to hang around.
	That's interesting to me.
	To me too, I'm just saying.
	So he found that there was a number of papers written.
	He's actually listed on one of them because he was so insistent on some of this stuff that he's been covering.
	Which is that it looks as if, and this is just preliminary, I kept telling him to write it up, I'll write it up if he doesn't want to do it.
	And I'd like to see some more evidence of this, but I'm just going to tell you the preliminary look at this.
	There's a lot of evidence that coronavirus in particular is more susceptible by Chinese people.
	than by Caucasians because of the same.
	Yes, I've seen the same foot, the same phenomenon that makes it so Chinese can smoke a lot.
	There's a couple of cells in the lungs that are good for fixing lung damage.
	Those same cells are the ones that the coronavirus attaches itself to.
	Yes.
	And it tends to be not just Chinese, though, which makes it interesting.
	Also Japanese, I think.
	Well, some – but the main target is Han Chinese.
	Wow, that's pretty specific.
	You could not get any specific.
	And he traces a couple of interesting point tidbits.
	With SARS in 2002-2003, when SARS was out, of all places, of all, I will call, shithole countries in the world, right next to China, namely Indonesia, there were no deaths there.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	in North America were centered around Toronto in a specific part of Chinatown.
	Yeah, in the show notes, I have an actual list that shows the susceptibility by ethnicity, I guess.
	What do you call it?
	Ethnicity, race?
	No, ethnicity, I think.
	And the U.S., you know, U.S. is down at like, you know, 50% or something compared to a lot of Asian countries.
	What I'm still...
	Waiting to find out is, will this spread from the Chinese all over Africa?
	Will it spread to Africans?
	According to JC's research, the African, Africans, not American, Afro-Americans.
	No, the actual Africans.
	Real Africans apparently have, a lot of them have this same structure in the lungs that will create a problem in Africa, which brings us right back to the...
	What he noticed, and this is, I think, what I'm trying to talk about.
	What he noticed is that if you start looking into epidemiology, you find very little correlation with ethnocentric groups.
	They just don't make – they decided not to make the connections.
	So you can't tell, for example, with let's say the last influenza or even swine flu, you can't tell if certain blacks got it more than certain whites or Irish got it more than Spanish or anything because they've kept all that data out of the epidemiological studies.
	And that's what he found fascinating.
	And I proposed that the reason they did this is because, one, they don't want to give anybody any ideas.
	And two, I think they've already targeted races with certain kinds of potentially bioengineered viruses or other viruses.
	complexes, AIDS, Ebola, a couple of examples.
	And so they don't want to show any sort of, they don't want to make these connections.
	So they just won't study it.
	But he's convinced that Han Chinese...
	That's why the Chinese are so freaked out at the moment.
	Right.
	And we have all kinds of measures being taken now.
	We had additional country bans.
	And to me, it reads like the one road, one belt strategy layout.
	It's like, okay, you're banned and you're banned and you're banned and you're banned.
	Which immediately, of course, I don't think it really worked.
	They tried to spin it as, Muslim ban!
	No, no, no, not really.
	More Muslim ban.
	Well, those people, yeah, sure, they may have Chinese in there by the hundreds of thousands who could be carrying the flu and spreading it to people who would come to America, but let's just say it's about Muslims, because Trump hates Muslims.
	It's such a disservice, such a disservice to the public.
	The economic impact, I think, is going to be, as I was talking about from day one, this is what it's about in my mind, and the CBC so far is the only one that's had any kind of decent report on the economic impact of the coronavirus Wuhan-Kong flu.
	You need not look far to see the economic consequences of this virus.
	Airline after airline suspending flights to China.
	This afternoon, one of Air Canada's last direct flights from Beijing landed in Vancouver.
	In China, entire swaths of the country have been shut down.
	Starbucks has closed more than half its outlets.
	Toyota announced it will close its plants.
	And Google says it will temporarily close all of its Chinese offices.
	Remember, though, back in 2003, China was basically the world's factory.
	Today, China's much more intertwined in the buying and selling of the global economy.
	The fact that the Chinese authorities have clamped down and they've put many cities in lockdown already, that means those consumers aren't out there purchasing, and that will really dampen Chinese growth.
	And that dampening will be felt in places you may not expect.
	Cameron Seafood sells about half its lobsters to China.
	And Chinese New Year is one of the busiest times of year.
	They were set to ship about 20,000 pounds this week.
	Those orders all cancelled.
	So actually the sales to China completely disappeared from Monday.
	There are other markets for those lobsters, but there's no way to make up the loss of the Chinese market.
	And no way of knowing how or when the world's second biggest economy will reopen for business.
	If it really is, and of course this sounds completely bioengineered, or gee, how unfortunate for these Chinese that it only, or really only, it seems to be targeting them.
	But it's kind of a perfect setup.
	Who was the old coot Secretary of Commerce?
	Wilbur.
	What's his name?
	Wilbur.
	Wilbur Ross.
	Yeah, Wilbur Ross.
	He said, this is good.
	He made a statement that this is really good because now we can bring back some of that manufacturing.
	This guy always lets the cat out of the bag, this old man.
	This guy's too funny.
	I do have the CBS rundown that just ran yesterday of the update, their update of the corona situation.
	You might not play it.
	A new case of the deadly coronavirus has been confirmed in the U.S. The latest case in Massachusetts.
	It's the eighth in the U.S. and the first on the East Coast.
	Health officials have declared a public health emergency.
	Nearly 14,000 people worldwide have been infected and more than 300 have died.
	And nearly 60 million people in China are under travel restrictions.
	Rami Inocencio leading us off from Beijing.
	The CDC says the new case of coronavirus is a Boston resident in his 20s who recently traveled to the center of the outbreak.
	You know, just to interrupt, I'm very disappointed in light of this information that they never really say what ethnicity or background these American victims have.
	Because it could be American-Chinese, it could be American-Japanese, American-Korean, whatever it is, African-American.
	We should know.
	They should start...
	It's a blackout.
	Yes.
	...on China.
	He's been placed in isolation.
	Also today, tech giant Apple announced it would close all its stores and offices in China until February 9th, joining a growing list of companies restricting operations here.
	This all comes as the World Health Organization declared a global health emergency, and the U.S. State Department raised its travel advisory for China to the highest level, meaning do not travel to China.
	A new study out by the British medical journal The Lancet estimates that more than 75,000 people have been infected by the virus as of last week.
	If that turns out to be true, it would confirm what many already fear, that Beijing is massively underreporting these numbers.
	The CDC reported that even if patients' initial tests for coronavirus are negative, they could still develop the illness because the test only works when patients have symptoms.
	A study also showed the virus can be transmitted by patients with no symptoms whatsoever.
	A woman who traveled from Shanghai to Germany infected seven other people while she remained asymptomatic.
	Those findings contributed to the decision to place 195 Americans housed at a California airbase in the first federal quarantine in 50 years.
	They will spend 14 days there.
	The best way to control a virus like this is to keep people away from everyone else while you run out the clock on that incubation period.
	I'm really glad you got this clip because it leads perfectly into Dr.
	Fauci.
	And Dr.
	Fauci is a celebrity here on the No Agenda show.
	You may remember him, one of the most famous lines ever.
	Do you remember the Fauci?
	Thank you, Mr.
	Bluff.
	Yes!
	Dr.
	Fauci, thanks so much, as always, for joining us.
	Good to be here, bro.
	So, that is Fauci.
	He's a fan favorite here at the No Agenda show.
	And he's talking about these one, I think it's him, yes, talking about the 195 Americans that were flown out of Wuhan and now they're in quarantine.
	They're not getting out in 14 days.
	Listen carefully.
	Clearly they're all isolated and...
	And will be for the 14 days.
	We have done virus isolation, but I want to be clear, the current test that we developed at CDC is not, we're not sure of natural history of how the virus is isolated.
	Can you isolate it one day, then three days later you can't?
	And we are seeing in the cases that are in the hospital, we've seen people who had detectable virus, and they didn't have detectable virus.
	And then three days later, they had detectable virus.
	We're using the virus cultures right now in these individuals more to help us learn about this virus.
	How much asymptomatic carriage, in fact, is there?
	So I want people to understand that distinction.
	We're not using it as a release criteria because we don't know the natural history of how this virus is secreted, and this is what we're continuing to learn.
	Not using that as release criteria.
	Enjoy your February.
	They're not getting out.
	This is the problem.
	You can get it, and then it goes away, and then it comes back.
	Well, that's...
	No, I don't think so.
	That's what he just said.
	He just said that.
	What he really said was the test sucks.
	There's that.
	So this is from the task force, and they did have some soothing words for Americans.
	I want to stress, the risk of infection for Americans remains low.
	And with these and our previous actions, we are working to keep the risk low.
	All agencies are working aggressively to monitor this continually evolving situation and to keep the public informed in a constantly transparent way.
	The United States appreciates China's efforts and coordination with public health officials across the globe and continues to encourage the highest levels of transparency.
	It is likely that we will continue to see more cases in the United States in the coming days and weeks, including some limited person-to-person transmission.
	The American public can be assured the full weight of the U.S. government is working to safeguard the health and safety of the American people.
	Donald Trump don't trust China!
	China is asshole!
	You know, my 23andMe comment is not far off from our future.
	You watch.
	If this is true and it comes down to DNA and what parts of people you're made out of, we shall see.
	We shall see what happens.
	But it's still, I mean, ultimately it's not even apparently as bad as the seasonal flu, but if it comes and goes and you carry it after months, that's problematic.
	Or a problem, I guess.
	Well, something's a problem.
	Department of Justice, they did.
	They also, we get some notes too, dude.
	You know, they're building a bunch.
	These hospitals apparently aren't really hospitals that they're building right outside.
	No, they're just prisons.
	Containers with the lock on the outside.
	It's a container.
	You can pick it right up with the crane and drop it.
	I think they're going to start killing people.
	So just to add some insult to injury, and this hasn't been used politically yet that I'm aware of, But the Department of Justice came out and gave a little rundown of what they've been doing most recently with people doing a Covert research on behalf of Chinese bio labs We're here today to announce three separate cases
	Highlighting the ongoing threat posed by Chinese economic espionage and research theft in the United States We're here today to announce three separate cases highlighting the ongoing threat posed by Chinese economic espionage and research theft in the United States.
	First, the arrest today of a Harvard University professor for lying about his participation in a Chinese foreign recruitment program.
	Second, this morning we have unsealed a separate indictment of a Chinese national working as a scientific researcher at Boston University who failed to mention on her visa application that she is also a lieutenant with the People's Liberation Army.
	Finally, this office has indicted another Chinese national for trying to smuggle vials of biological material out of the United States to China and lying about it to federal investigators.
	That defendant, whose entry to the United States had been sponsored by Harvard University, was a cancer researcher at a lab at the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.
	So, this morning, the FBI arrested Dr. Charles.
	Charles Lieber, the chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, for making false statements regarding his involvement in China's Thousand Talents Plan and his affiliation with the Wuhan University of Technology.
	The complaint alleges that Dr.
	Lieber signed a contract with the Chinese University in Wuhan and was paid up to $50,000 per month, plus up to $158,000 in living expenses, and awarded more than $1.5 million to set up a research lab at the Chinese school and work there on researching nanotechnology.
	Lieber also joined China's Thousand Talents Plan, according to the complaint, A Chinese government-run program designed to entice scientists and researchers in the United States to share their research expertise with China.
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	It is just one of those odd coincidences.
	It's a beauty.
	Now the Health and Human Services Secretary, Ansar, I think he's in trouble somehow with this.
	I mean, he's waffling and floating around the way he says stuff, and I have two clips.
	One from, I think this is from their press conference, and then I think the other one may be from a direct television interview.
	But this is explaining...
	Self-quarantine.
	So, Mr.
	Secretary, the mandatory quarantine for people coming in from Hubei Province, will that be home quarantine or will that be in an institutional setting?
	That would be at an appropriate quarantine facility of some kind for those individuals.
	U.S. citizens returning to the United States from having been in China within the previous 14 days, they would be funneled, as Secretary Cuccinelli spoke of, they would be screened appropriately to see if they present any type of symptoms of the disease, and then they would be asked to self-isolate at home over the 14 days.
	But for individuals from Hubei, because that is the epicenter of this with such high immediate transmission, we feel these additional measures of quarantine for up to 14 days are appropriate.
	Here it comes.
	And could I just follow that?
	Have you selected specific quarantine centers?
	We have selected them.
	We will announce those as DHS implements with the airlines that funneling activity.
	Can you say it with me now?
	FEMA camps.
	FEMA camps in your future, ladies and gentlemen.
	And listen to Anzar.
	Anzar has a tell and a truth one that comes out moment, wants to come out moment in 39 seconds.
	We'll get the tell at the beginning, and then the truth wants to come out.
	And the headline is, Is the World Ready for the Coronavirus?
	How do you answer that question?
	So, Ed, we've actually been very transparent about what we do not know yet about this virus.
	Wow!
	We've actually been very transparent.
	So, Ed, we've actually been very transparent about what we do not know yet about this virus, which is we don't know full information about its contagiousness, about its severity profile, which is why I'm delighted that at the invitation of the Chinese government, we will accept the invitation to participate as part of the World Health Organization's team of experts that will deploy to China to assist Chinese experts on the ground to actually get ground truth to study this virus Get all the information to both help the spread,
	prevent the spread further in China This guy's...
	Wow.
	Get ground truth to study this virus, get all the information to both help the spread, prevent the spread further in China, but also global spread of this virus.
	You got the clip of the day for finding that one.
	I think I deserve it in this case.
	A double whammy.
	Yeah, it's a double.
	You got the tell, the cough, and you got the slip.
	Got to help the spread, man.
	Oh, I mean...
	Oh, my goodness.
	Well, at the dinner table conversation, we were talking about some other aspects of this.
	Sorry.
	Which includes the fact that men should be more susceptible for various reasons.
	70% more men infected than women so far.
	Yeah, and that has to do with the structure of the lungs and the smoking and the rest of it.
	But, you know, the conversation came up with the Chinese have too many men anyway.
	Yeah, it's a good thing.
	So, you know, it might be good to even things out a little bit.
	Who knows?
	It's a pretty grisly conversation, I'll tell you.
	Yeah, but now we know that, historically speaking, having been around the block for a bit, being a little bit older...
	All of these scares, Ebola, Zika, swine flu, H1N1, SARS. I mean, yeah, people die.
	30,000 a year die from seasonal flu.
	People die.
	So in the United States, I don't feel we have to be that worried.
	Europe is also not shutting everything down now.
	And my goodness, they can't, of course, because this is the real issue.
	It's not just China, as one of the first clips said, who's just our factory anymore.
	We're intertwined.
	So if China goes down, it's going to hurt.
	Just economically speaking.
	Dame Astrid sent us a note discussing this and what's going on in Japan.
	Yes.
	You got that?
	I did.
	She mentions that the Ginza is just empty.
	The streets are deserted.
	They don't want to eat.
	They don't want to go out.
	They don't want to do anything.
	I know.
	Yeah, this really slowed down your economy.
	You know, bankrupt.
	This is not good.
	I mean, just that part you mentioned at the beginning is just not the economic...
	Economically, it's an issue.
	It's not good.
	I got a note from our...
	It's being ignored, I think, somewhat.
	I should also mention this as you started off by mentioning that.
	The paper about the HIV being inserted into Corona somehow, which may or may not be true, I think is bull crap.
	I do too.
	But it did get, by posting this, which is nothing wrong with posting the fact that this paper exists, Zero Hedge got kicked off of Twitter.
	Gone.
	Yeah, I saw that too.
	Very disturbing.
	That's not suspicious.
	Our intel analyst, this is the one who caught the fact that a lot of the Canadians flying back from Iran came from the university in Scandinavia, where they're experts in nuclear technology.
	So he sent me a follow-up note.
	Here's some facts regarding the virus.
	Actually, he's an intelligence analyst, so he gets his information from sources.
	So he says a well-placed source with direct ties to mainland China.
	I know it sounds a bit like a weird blog post, but it was private to me, and he has some standing in the show since his previous observation.
	So he attends...
	His source attends John Hopkins University in Najing, China.
	Or attended, and as an alum, he still has a logon to their libraries where he drew some research from.
	So the short version of...
	What our analysts have found out, the most susceptible to the NCOV, the novel coronavirus, the highest ACE2 gene structures, people who contract never recover from it.
	The virus becomes recessive after incubation and initial flare.
	Many of those who had an initial infection with fever and cough, but without...
	Cytokine storm.
	What is that, John?
	What's the word?
	Cytokine storm.
	C-Y-T-O-K-I-N-E. Cytokine storm.
	Cytokine, I think.
	Cytokine.
	So, without cytokine storm, if you looked that up for me, had showed a compromised immune system and recurrence of the virus.
	In several cases, the third or fourth recurrence in the reduced immune response, the, there's that word again, cytokine storm developed, those people died.
	Hmm.
	Because the virus is immunocompromising, any recurrences...
	Yes?
	Let's stop you.
	A cytokine storm is an overproduction of immune cells.
	Ah, yes.
	And then activating compounds, cytokines, which in a flu infection is often associated with a surge of activated immune cells into the lungs.
	So you kill yourself by trying to...
	your body tries to protect yourself.
	Yeah, this is like some people get...
	You can almost self-induce an asthma attack, but then there's certain things that get released, histamines, and then the next thing you know, you're half dead. - Because the virus is immunocompromising, any recurrences further weakens the immune system, The Chinese are using the term airborne AIDS in describing the approach to it.
	The patient in Seattle was given an experimental antiretroviral after his first post-infection flare fully recovered on the drug.
	He was declared cured.
	When he stopped the drug, the virus flare recurred.
	This is from the New York Times' January 22nd article.
	He's back in the hospital.
	The basic prevention is to quarantine and avoid people in the ACE2 gene sequence.
	Those people will have the highest viral load and be super spreaders.
	Yes, this is much less deadly currently than the flu virus.
	However, it has the potential to grow undetected at a much higher rate.
	It has also had an impact on the global economy that has already surpassed anything flu virus has ever done, according to our intelligence analysts.
	So the ACE2 gene sequence, is that something you can get from 23andMe?
	Can we figure that out?
	Can we target people now who have done this?
	I think this, again, is the Han Chinese.
	Probably.
	No, he has the list.
	It's the same list that Buzzkill Jr.
	probably saw with Most Susceptible, where Americans comes down halfway down the list, 50%.
	So that kind of sounds a bit like something that might have been bioengineered.
	Who knows?
	Well, these things, I mean, naturally occurring substances do evolve.
	They do that too, yeah.
	On their own, and then you just happen to be the unlucky winner.
	And you're a winner and you're a winner.
	I got myself a case of Wuhan's flu.
	I don't know what I am supposed to do.
	You know I had it when I gave it to you.
	Now we all got the Wuhan flu.
	There you go.
	Well, the point that if it is not, if you can't get rid of it once you get it, you're forever, you're crying.
	It's more like herpes.
	Yeah.
	Sounds a lot like herpes.
	You can't get rid of it.
	Oh, man.
	Huh.
	Well, that's all bad news.
	It's not great.
	But I still think the real bad news is yet to come.
	It's interesting, the economy will coast for a while.
	It's got to be hurting.
	It has to.
	The numbers have to make it.
	No, it's got to be huge.
	Thank you.
	It's got to be just before the election.
	And this is what I said!
	And everyone's going to start using this.
	Hey, if we had a public company, we'd be having this meeting right now.
	Hey, we still have that, you know, that shit on the balance sheet.
	Why don't we get the bad news out, blame it on Chinese flu or whatever, say, ah, your sales, something, problem, supply chain.
	Well, that's a common effect.
	Yeah, if it's bad weather, you'll blame it on whatever's going on.
	Of course.
	But it's going to definitely have an effect.
	And whether or not the...
	The market accepts the blame because the market will go, well, okay, we'll let you slide on this one.
	Yeah.
	But if it continues and if this is like what that Johns Hopkins report and the intelligence guy, which I believe him because- Yeah, me too.
	Johns Hopkins is a spook operation.
	You think?
	At this point.
	Yes.
	And they would have good information.
	Yeah.
	So if he's looking at their stuff, this doesn't go out to the newspapers, this kind of thing.
	They don't want to freak out the public.
	No, no.
	This is just for podcasts.
	That's just so the Intel guys can sit around and laugh.
	The way the dinner conversation opened up, we started talking about it, it went like this.
	Oh, Adam read a note from one of our producers talking about this big programming operation and all the programmers are staying away from the Chinese.
	You remember that note?
	Yes.
	They're all huddling anywhere, but they don't want to be hanging out with the Chinese coders.
	And JC starts off by saying, for good reason.
	Great.
	That helps.
	But that is very strange.
	To me, it's kind of new.
	And the public is so poorly informed, only reading headlines, typically.
	And people have tuned out to news, because what is news anymore?
	I think that's one of the reasons why people like listening to No Agenda, is because we may not be right all the time, but we can...
	Distilled through the bullcrap.
	No, but we present everything that's out there that could be presented.
	Yes.
	And we have people out there who also do analysis, they give it to us, and then we reanalyze.
	That's it.
	It's fantastic.
	That's the thing, is that we have our own analysts.
	And they, yeah, exactly.
	And they have access to stuff.
	We have people that have access to stuff that the public doesn't have access to, and the reporters don't, you know, they can't even barely use a computer, so they're not going to get anything from the New York Times.
	They're only interested in getting Trump out of office and keeping Bernie from getting elected.
	Hey, and you know what?
	CNN is on it again.
	If you thought that after...
	Now, we'll get to the impeachment in a moment, because, of course, it's going to be an acquittal vote on Wednesday.
	That's expected unless something crazy happens, but...
	At this very moment, and we have tomorrow, very important for the Democratic Party is they are going to have the Iowa caucus that's all leading up to who will be the nominee.
	So it's an internal thing.
	It's not a government thing.
	It's a club of Democrats.
	That's how they run it.
	First, I want us all to pay very close attention.
	I believe Joe Biden's campaign is over.
	It is completely done and wiped out.
	He will never recover because he's no longer needed.
	We needed him to be an opponent of Donald Trump for the impeachment.
	Impeachment over.
	Thanks, Joe.
	You really did your job for us.
	You can now go away.
	You can't really...
	Mark my words, Joe Biden's campaign is over.
	Which leaves us with the Sanders surge.
	This is an incredible problem.
	We need to stop Bernie Sanders.
	And CNN did a fabulous job by...
	Reporting, well, here's the clip and then you'll understand.
	David, CNN had planned to bring everyone the final Iowa poll from CNN and the Des Moines Register tonight.
	That is no longer happening.
	Please explain to our viewers why.
	Yeah, Ana, it was brought to CNN's attention earlier this evening that somebody who was questioned for the survey raised an issue with the way that their interview was conducted.
	That means the results of the poll could have been compromised.
	We weren't able to determine exactly what happened during this person's interview, and we don't know if it was an isolated incident.
	So...
	Out of an abundance of caution, CNN and the Des Moines Register and Selzer& Company, who conducts the poll, decided not to release tonight's poll.
	We take the standards that we apply to our polling very seriously.
	And to keep the highest possible standards, we wanted to present this information to the public and explain why we didn't proceed with releasing this poll this evening, Anna.
	So, a lot of this stuff is almost like superstition, you know, how things work and what you need, and even this caucusing, which maybe, John, you can try to explain.
	It's not incredibly clear, certainly not to anyone outside of, I don't know, Iowa.
	But this poll is a poll that is always run and published on the eve of the Iowa caucus, and it is supposed to be a very important indicator as to who is going to be Who's going to get the most people caucusing slash delegates for the ultimate choice of the Democratic contestant in the big reality show?
	And, I mean, for CNN to have someone call, you know, it's not like this person was on the air.
	I have no proof.
	There's a lot of, you know, according to official sources, there's no names anywhere.
	But someone called up and said, hey, who are you voting for?
	Bernie?
	Elizabeth?
	Joe?
	And apparently didn't say Buttigieg.
	And so that immediately was taken by CNN into canceling the obvious news that Bernie Sanders is surging ahead of everybody.
	So they are meddling in the primaries for sure.
	And unless you have something else, I'll play the ABC Iowa update because I think it kind of encompasses everything.
	Well, I do have the Iowa wrap, the scheme, because I have some thoughts on this.
	Okay, whatever you want.
	Play yours and then I'll see if...
	I can't remember what mine's about.
	I produced it last night.
	Play mine.
	You just said play yours and that was play mine.
	Hold on.
	What's Iowa wrap?
	Here we go.
	With just two days to go before Iowa's first in the nation voting for the 2020 election, the Democratic presidential hopefuls are trying to make every second count.
	Senator Elizabeth Warren made it to a late-night campaign event Friday after leaving President Trump's impeachment trial.
	They'll spend the weekend crisscrossing the state ahead of Monday night's caucuses.
	The latest Monmouth University poll shows former Vice President Joe Biden holding a slight edge over Senator Bernie Sanders among likely caucus goers.
	Ah, this is interesting.
	Wait a minute, whose report was that?
	Who did that one?
	This is CBS. Let's listen to ABC. The Central Intelligence Agency broadcast system.
	They know.
	ABC has a different edge.
	In Iowa tonight, a final frenzy.
	The caucus is now just two days out.
	Senator Elizabeth Warren...
	And listen closely to who they make sound like a doofus.
	...fresh off impeachment duty, making a mad dash from the Capitol to rally her supporters dressed in a campaign hoodie.
	I heard there were some people who wanted to do some selfies!
	Yeah, that's the sound bite you want from someone you want to marginalize.
	And making her closing argument with voters today.
	We will, we must, come together as a party and beat Donald Trump.
	That is our job.
	Yes!
	Tonight, a surging Senator Bernie Sanders shaking off concerns about his electability.
	But I believe that we are the strongest campaign to defeat Trump.
	A Democratic super PAC trying to stop his momentum before the first votes are cast, pushing out an aggressive ad campaign questioning the senator's health.
	I do have some concerns about Bernie Sanders' health considering the fact that he did have a heart attack.
	And I believe that our campaign is the campaign of energy, is the campaign of excitement, The divide within the Democratic Party on full display in a critical election year.
	Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib booing the mention of Hillary Clinton's name as she campaigned for Sanders.
	No, I'll boo.
	Boo!
	You all know I can't be quiet now.
	No, we're going to boo.
	That's all right.
	The haters, the haters will shut up on Monday when we win.
	Today, apologizing, writing, I allowed my disappointment.
	Making Bernie look bad, very bad, because he has bad surrogates.
	...appointment with Secretary Clinton's latest comments about Senator Sanders and his supporters.
	Get the best of me.
	Former Vice President Joe Biden on a 20-city, 17-county bus tour throughout Iowa.
	Mr.
	Vice President, have you benefited from having this date largely to yourself during this critical stretch?
	All I know is it's been feeling good for a long time here and it still feels good.
	Joe has his head down.
	He has no energy.
	He's depressed.
	Oh, he's pooped.
	Because he knows that it's over.
	Impeachment done.
	I'm going to disagree with this.
	Hold on.
	I mean, I wrote it down.
	Hold on.
	Let me just finish the clip in a moment.
	I know it's been feeling good for a long time here.
	It still feels good.
	We're going to keep moving.
	The DNC changing its rules, dropping the donor threshold.
	The pathway is now open for the billionaire mayor who is self-funding his own campaign to possibly qualify for the Nevada debate happening later this month.
	So you disagree with my Joe theory?
	Yeah, because the guys I follow, which are the Democrat operatives, and many of them are on Twitter, John Cooper is my favorite.
	And they have a...
	You can tell that this Biden thing is...
	They're doing everything they can.
	They're not going to let Bernie win.
	And so if Bernie doesn't win, it's going to have to be Biden.
	And here's my basic new thinking.
	The entire impeachment process is designed to get Biden to win.
	The reason they stalled one whole month before presenting it to the Senate is so they could time it.
	So the senators would have to be in Washington, D.C. that are all running against Biden.
	Biden has no restrictions.
	So Biden can go pound the pavement in Iowa day after day after day as this impeachment drags on coincidentally moved right to the point where the caucuses are.
	And stretched.
	So that's where they talk.
	Both these reports that we played is these senators are rushing to Iowa.
	They have to fly over and they're coming in near midnight.
	They meet up with people.
	Then they got to fly back to Washington for the vote on Monday.
	This is all...
	I agree with that.
	I totally agree.
	And it was maybe more orchestrated to thwart Bernie than to help Joe, is my idea.
	Well, Bernie's definitely the target.
	They have to stop Bernie.
	So I would not disagree with the theory that Bernie is number one on the list of why we're doing this.
	But I still believe that his joke is the one who got to take advantage of this situation, of this impeachment.
	Which they stretched needlessly and they took their 24 hours.
	They did everything they could to keep these senators in Washington, D.C. where they had to attend.
	They couldn't say, hey, I'm out of here.
	I'm going to go to Iowa.
	I got an election to run or a campaign to run.
	They kept him in Washington.
	And the only one who, there's only two people that benefited from that, and that is Buttigieg and Biden, because they're not senators.
	And although it won't make any difference, it's also benefit to Bloomberg.
	Well, Bloomberg's not in the caucuses.
	Okay.
	So this doesn't benefit Bloomberg.
	He's just spending money left and right.
	He's already spent, I think, $200 million.
	I tweeted some of these numbers.
	Look at the players here who are at work.
	You heard a little bit in the ABC report.
	This is the anti-Bernie ad that ran in Iowa.
	The most important thing is we have to beat Trump.
	We've seen the damage that Trump and the Republican Congress have done.
	I doubt if Bernie Sanders can beat Trump.
	I like Bernie.
	I think he has great ideas.
	But Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa, they're just not going to vote for a socialist.
	I do have some concerns about Bernie Sanders' health considering the fact that he did have a heart attack.
	I think it's very important that the Democrats nominate somebody that can beat Trump.
	I don't feel as though Bernie Sanders would do well against Donald Trump.
	I just don't think Bernie can beat Trump.
	DMFI PAC is responsible for the content of this advertising.
	So that's the DMFI PAC. That is the Democratic Majority for Israel Political Action Committee.
	Board of Directors, Ann Lewis.
	This is straight from Wikipedia.
	She's at the top of the list.
	White House Communications Director during the Clinton administration, Henry Cisneros.
	HUD secretary during Bill Clinton's administration.
	Yeah, they're a bunch of Clinton operatives.
	Oh yeah, and Jennifer Granholm, who's also a current CNN political contributor.
	Yeah, it's obvious who's behind this just to get rid of Bernie.
	And I am very disturbed by how far they will go.
	And do they not realize...
	That there are a lot of people who really like Bernie Sanders.
	There's a lot.
	A couple of things should be noted.
	We've noted it before.
	I think Bernie could beat Trump.
	In fact, I think he's the only one who could beat Trump because it's a clear distinction.
	I think it makes the voters have to really take a side.
	Yeah.
	I don't think he would beat Trump, but I think he could beat Trump.
	I don't think anybody else can.
	Well, not with this pushback from his own quote-unquote party.
	Well, he's not in the party.
	That's the joke of it.
	He's an independent.
	But he's running on the Democrat ticket.
	Yeah, and they don't think they're that fond of this concept.
	You know, it was kind of interesting that in the impeachment vote, of course, his vote comes through as an independent, yet he's running for the Democratic ticket, which is, I'm not quite sure how that works.
	Why did they even let him?
	Can't they just say, nah, you're out?
	Why'd they even let him in?
	Socialists in the party.
	There's the left contingent, the AOCs and all the lefties that are taking over the party.
	That's the future of the party.
	We're basically going, if you look at the two parties in the future, the left will have two parties, the Communist Party and the Nazi Party.
	As, of course, the right-wing conservatives will see the left as communists, socialist communists.
	And the left will see the right-wing conservatives as Nazis.
	So that's what it's going to be.
	It's going to be Nazi commies.
	That's our future.
	And Michael Moore.
	Michael Moore spoke at the Bernie rally.
	He was a little fired up.
	They are removing the rule to be on the debate stage where it says you have to have so many people donating to you.
	Otherwise, instead of 27 people on the stage, there'd be 227 people on the stage.
	So you had to show, you had to have a certain number of Americans that would give you a buck.
	That's all the rule said.
	But it would show that there's support.
	And that's how they determined who would be on that debate stage.
	Today, they removed that rule.
	Because Mike Bloomberg, the billionaire, the Republican mayor of New York City, they removed it so that he could be in the next debate.
	He doesn't have to show he has any support amongst the American people.
	He can just buy his way onto the debate stage.
	And I gotta tell you what's so disgusting about this.
	I watched the debate in Iowa here two weeks ago.
	The all-white debate, and the fact that the Democratic, the DNC, will not allow Cory Booker on that stage, will not allow Julian Castro on that stage, but they're going to allow Mike Bloomberg on the stage, because he's got a billion fucking dollars.
	Yep, that's right.
	That's right.
	Yeah, we like that guy.
	So Bloomberg has a new ad.
	What is this with Moore?
	Does he hate Jews?
	Oh, no.
	You can't say that.
	I should mention, the visuals for this ad, you don't see people, you just see dogs.
	Dogs, dogs, dogs.
	Dogs on leashes, dogs looking at each other.
	It's a dog ad.
	It's a dog ad for women.
	Mike Bloomberg is the man to lead us.
	He will create more jobs.
	Mike's not afraid of the NRA, not one bit.
	Trust me, Mike will get it done, yeah.
	Get it done, yes.
	He does not tweet.
	I like Mike.
	I like Mike.
	I lick Mike.
	I'm Mike Bloomberg's dog.
	I approve this message.
	I'm Mike Bloomberg, and I approve this message.
	Dogs are people, too.
	There it is.
	The dogs will be voting.
	It's apparently the only thing that will vote for Bloomberg.
	I'm getting pummeled by ads for Bloomberg, Bernie, and Steyer.
	Yeah.
	And even though Starry really hasn't spent much.
	That was real, by the way.
	That's not satire.
	That's what I'm asking because I have not seen this ad in California.
	What is the point of this ad?
	What do you think?
	I think it was put together quickly as a joke because of the weird way he shook that Collie's head.
	If you saw that video.
	I don't know anything about this.
	He was doing a meet and greet somewhere, and someone had a dog.
	The dog comes up to him.
	He grabs the dog by the nose.
	The dog opens his mouth, and so he basically grabs the top part of the dog's nose and head and just kind of shakes it like he's shaking someone's hand.
	It's very disturbing.
	Wait, you grabbed the dog's muzzle and shook the muzzle?
	But just the dog's mouth is open, so just the top part of the muzzle.
	Oh, he put his hand in the dog's mouth and shook his hand?
	Yes!
	The dog didn't clamp down?
	Sadly, no!
	Otherwise, you would have heard about it.
	He had to know that dog.
	Nobody in their right mind does that.
	Unless he's a reptile.
	Well, there's that.
	Maybe the dogs will just vote for him.
	I don't know.
	Maybe people...
	I have an ISO for the potential end of the show.
	Okay.
	Is it the Bloomberg?
	Yeah, okay.
	I'm Mike Bloomberg, and I approve this message.
	End of show?
	Okay, it's a contender.
	I got another one later.
	Okay.
	Let me see what else we have going on in the 2020...
	Oh yeah, you know 538 Media, the great pollsters who predicted...
	Who got one thing right 20 years ago and have never gotten anything right since?
	Those guys?
	Pretty much.
	Silverman or whatever his name is?
	Yes, that guy.
	Silver.
	Silver.
	Brad Silver or something.
	No, not Brad.
	It's the guy that everyone trusted when he said Hillary will win 98% sure.
	That's the guy.
	Nate.
	Nate Silver.
	Nate Silver.
	There you go.
	So they interviewed Stacey Abrams.
	A quick quote, Stacey Abrams and Malone of 538 Media says, Do you think the country will elect a black woman president in the next 20 years?
	Abrams says yes.
	Question, do you think they'll elect you?
	Abrams says, yes, that's my plan.
	I'm very pragmatic.
	Uh-huh.
	At least she admits she wants to be the president.
	Wow.
	So she gets her talking points from the CFR, and that's what she says?
	Mm-hmm.
	I don't know.
	Maybe she's ad-libbing there.
	I think that this is not the way to do things.
	Yeah, well.
	Pretty bold.
	Yeah.
	You're all on board with it because you think you're all...
	I think she...
	You bought into it.
	You bought into Stacey Abrams that she's a plant.
	I really don't know what to think anymore.
	I mean, we clearly differ on the Biden stuff, so I want to see what happens first.
	I think we'll know very quickly.
	I'm actually almost getting to warm up.
	To the idea which has been promoted, and this has also been promoted in Zero Hedge and elsewhere, that Hillary is going to be the vice president with Biden.
	Well, you laughed at my Occam's razor.
	I did.
	This is literally what I suggested.
	It's even an animated no agenda.
	That must have pushed you over the edge.
	Well, it got me to whether logic was different than yours.
	And it was...
	And I started reading it, and what fell on my head, the apple that fell on my head, was that, oh, wait a minute.
	There has to be some reason, some rationale, some reason my original concept that Hillary's going to jump in at the end isn't coming to fruition.
	This could be it.
	Okay.
	I'm not quite sure how different...
	So, no, it's...
	Still my idea, only now you're just using it to get out.
	Well, I'm not going to say it wasn't, but I'm just saying that I'm now coming around to thinking, okay, I can see where it could happen.
	It's a terrible ticket.
	I mean, two people with walkers, you know, running for president is pretty bad.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Hey, it's a great...
	The whole idea is great.
	Did you...
	I have a LibDev posting.
	Did you have any convos with your LibJo friends after the no to witnesses and documents vote?
	Which essentially was a dour moment for many.
	No, I didn't.
	I'm trying to minimize my approaching.
	It's like getting...
	The edge where there's a rift, a dimensional rift is the way I'm seeing these things.
	And I'm trying not to approach it because I'm still irked about Putin's calling the shots beliefs.
	Oh, well, it's only gotten worse.
	Well, it could be, but I felt it's not healthy to get too close to it.
	It's like this time-space continuum.
	Pieces of your anatomy start to dissolve.
	It's dangerous.
	Here is a posting from my LibDev friend, and it's titled, Epitaph for America.
	This was posted on Friday.
	It looks like the impeachment trial will be over tonight.
	I've been trying to come to grips with how the Repubs, confronted with such clear evidence of the corruption of the president, could go along with it.
	I figured it had to be blackmail or a threat of force.
	We now have a Russian-style government and this is a rite of passage, like the confirmation or bar mitzvah of the new autocracy.
	In Russia, the parliament has no power.
	That seems to be the message bouncing around the Twittersphere.
	Congress isn't going to do anything about this.
	What comes next?
	It's new territory for Americans, really for everyone, because the last time a great power went down, this path was before the internet.
	And it just goes on and on and on and on.
	I should read a little more.
	Well, instead of that, let me...
	Okay, I have a couple of things.
	First of all, I learned something completely new after this vote, and I'm very pleased with Chuck Schumer, because it's not often that I learn something new from Chuck Schumer.
	And I've met this guy.
	I interviewed him once, way back in the day.
	And he's a creep.
	But I learned a new word.
	I learned a new word.
	He came out after the vote of no witnesses, no documents.
	Oh yes, I heard this word too.
	Wow.
	A witness, a document.
	No witnesses, no documents.
	In an impeachment trial is a perfidy.
	I was like, what is perfidy?
	Yeah, perfidy, that's kind of an arcane word.
	I kind of know what it means.
	I looked it up.
	Of course, disloyalty, faithlessness, falseness.
	These are all synonyms, of course.
	But it's an act or an instance of disloyalty.
	Deceitful.
	So, why not just say that?
	What's this perfidy?
	That was so odd to me.
	Code.
	Oh yeah, it could be code.
	You're right.
	Code.
	Well, so there's a couple of paths now that the M5M is taking it.
	I have a Supercuts montage.
	We always love doing those.
	So the initial response from the M5M is, if you didn't have a witness, if you didn't have documents, even though you have witness testimony and documents from the House impeachment, then it's not an acquittal.
	It may be an acquittal, but it's certainly not an exoneration.
	Well, he will not be acquitted.
	You cannot be acquitted if you don't have a trial.
	The president's acquittal will be meaningless.
	This can't be a real acquittal.
	You cannot have a true acquittal if you've not had a fair trial.
	This cannot be a true acquittal if there's not been a fair trial.
	He can say, well, I was acquitted, but he really can't say he was exonerated.
	He may get an acquittal, but he's not going to get an exoneration.
	It's not an exoneration.
	We can't let it be seen as that.
	I think there will always be an asterisk.
	It should be fair to the president.
	We will not benefit from an acquittal or dismissal if the trial is not viewed as fair.
	It's not a real trial and it's not a real exoneration.
	If, in fact, we do have a not guilty finding, it's going to be questioned.
	In the absence of a fair trial, how can the American people conclude that justice was done?
	After the senators deliberate and vote on trial or sham, you're right.
	The next step is convict or acquit.
	Mr.
	President, without a fair trial, the value of your acquittal will be zero.
	Zero.
	Very, very little.
	Okay, so that's shaping the message there from the M5M. And interestingly, over on exclusively MSNBC, on the AM Joy, Joy Reid Show, she brought on former spook Malcolm Nance.
	And he just went straight to it, which I find this...
	This I find to be very...
	Not that a lot of people are watching AM Joy, but this guy is propagating something which is...
	If it's the way you want to go, it's fine, but when you bring this kind of thing into question, you make it difficult for the whole country, everything.
	It's just a shitty thing to do.
	Well, I think that we are standing into a measure of danger that is going to be extremely, extremely critical for the American Republic.
	It's not only that Donald Trump is being given permission on the basis of what he's done in the past to go and cheat in this election.
	This vote next Wednesday, when he is acquitted, will give the entire world permission to attack the United States.
	And perhaps be rewarded for it.
	So just imagine next November, second Tuesday of next November, it may not be Russia providing political propaganda beyond what they did in 2016.
	Imagine North Korea loosing their entire global hacking network on the Democratic Party and supporting Donald Trump's re-election.
	It could be bad.
	You know, what if we wake up the night of the election and we're told Trump won Vermont?
	How would we even deal with Thank you.
	An actual interference in the vote.
	Right.
	I mean, again, a direct attack on the United States where a nation state has decided that they are going to actually hack the results and make it so obvious in such a way that one party, the Republicans, say, well, that's just too bad.
	That's the result of the election.
	Donald Trump wins.
	And the other party is left standing there blinking at a president who now believes he can do anything he wants.
	In the national interest.
	So, of course, all of our opponents in the global threat arena, that's North Korea, as you said, Saudi Arabia has a very vested interest in keeping Donald Trump in his president of the United States.
	And they use Israeli, American, and other subcontractors to carry out nefarious hacking and intelligence activities.
	This nation is going to be under attack, cyber-wise, unlike anything that we've seen before.
	Not just disinformation, but I think we may possibly finally see people put their hands on the thumbs of the scales of American voting machines or tally machines at the state level wherever they can.
	And it will be sloppy.
	It will be so obvious that, again, there's nothing we're going to be able to do about it because one side will accept the result.
	Wow.
	That's going pretty far.
	This is a former intelligence guy.
	He's still under orders.
	That's probably right from the CIA. There you go.
	And the idea that North Korea is going to unleash its hordes of hackers.
	What do they got?
	This is bull crap.
	Yeah, but people don't know that.
	I mean, even the probing of ports, which in the M5M quickly was called thousands of attacks per minute.
	If you ask people on the street, lie witness news, if you say, was the 2016 election hacked?
	They say, oh yeah, the results were hacked, of course, because that's what they've heard.
	Not that they actually care that much anymore, but...
	Ted Cruz, Senator Cruz, was on a podcast.
	Truth always wants to come out, although I don't think his truth is correct, but it was odd.
	Isn't this his podcast?
	No, he was being interviewed on another podcast.
	He is a podcast meister now.
	He will promote...
	Well, he invented the podcast.
	Yes.
	That's correct.
	And he will promote his podcast, but he says something else here.
	A lot of questions.
	That raised a lot of questions of corruption.
	And the president, I think, not only was justified, but had a responsibility to say, look into this and investigate that corruption.
	I think that exchange was really important.
	Briefly, if President Trump's watching tonight, your message to him?
	Uh...
	The Senate's going to follow the law.
	We've given both sides a fair trial.
	The House didn't have a fair proceeding.
	It had a one-sided partisan proceeding.
	We let both sides present their case.
	We're going to apply the law.
	I think by the end of the weekend, the president is going to be convicted.
	I'll also mention, two weeks ago, I launched a podcast, a verdict with Ted Cruz.
	Notice the guy asking the question doesn't even correct him.
	Listen again.
	He's going to be convicted.
	Hold on.
	We let both sides present their case.
	We're going to apply the law.
	I think by the end of the weekend, the president is going to be convicted.
	I'll also mention, two weeks ago, I launched a podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
	And you can hear more of this fine information like what I just said on my podcast.
	Oops.
	Stupid Ted.
	Uh, right.
	Okay, so we had that, then we had...
	Well, then we had just bitter complaining.
	Oh, Hakeem Jeffries.
	He was one of the House managers.
	And this was actually, he was, I found this to be interesting.
	I think this was Friday, you know, the last Q&A session or the discussion session.
	And he is answering a question that came, of course, from one of the senators, was slowly walked to the desk, the desk to the Justice Roberts, taking up all the valuable airtime.
	The question is, is the Steele dossier, could that be considered foreign interference in election?
	Which, you know, considering it was shepherded by a citizen of the UK and included comments and information from Russians, arguably yes, but Hakeem Jeffries argued it on the floor the opposite way.
	Thank you for the question.
	The analogy is not applicable to the present situation because, first, to the extent that Opposition research was obtained.
	It was opposition research that was purchased.
	Oh.
	What?
	You didn't see that?
	Wow, I missed that one.
	I love that one.
	It's not election interference if you buy the opposition research, but if you're just scraping it yourself, then clearly that is interfering in election.
	I did get one thing that I wanted to play in that Q&A era.
	Yeah.
	And this relates to the last show, and this is John Roberts explaining the tiebreaker situation.
	Yes, I got that too.
	I was so happy that he answered that because we didn't really know it was a question I brought up.
	There's a new piece of information in there I didn't realize.
	The Democratic leader will state the inquiry.
	Is the Chief Justice aware that in the impeachment trial of President Johnson, Chief Justice Chase, as presiding officer, cast tiebreaking votes on both March 31st and April 2nd, 1868?
	I am, Mr.
	Leader.
	The one concerned a motion to adjourn, the other concerned a motion to close deliberations.
	I do not regard those isolated episodes 150 years ago as sufficient to support a general authority to break ties.
	If the members of this body, elected by the people and accountable to them, divide equally on a motion, the normal rule is that the motion fails.
	I think it would be inappropriate for me, an unelected official from a different branch of government, to assert the power to change that result so that the motion would succeed.
	So 50-50 is a fail.
	It's a loser.
	It's a loser, yeah.
	And now, I was watching this vote, and I loved how it worked right down to the very last votes.
	Will it be 50-50?
	Will it be 41-4?
	What's it going to be?
	Could they get two more votes?
	I loved how they killed the mic and waited and the tally stood stuck there.
	That was a good dramatic moment.
	Although they forgot the confetti.
	Because every show ends with a confetti fountain.
	But...
	Learned some new things.
	Where is it here?
	Sorry about that.
	Now, wait a minute.
	Oh, yeah, here it is.
	What they were counting on was...
	Or the Democrats were counting on Murkowski from Alaska.
	They thought that she would be one of those votes that could just...
	Now, in this case, it would have still been 50-50, so it would have been a loser.
	And Mitt Romney, being the hero that he is, he voted for the witnesses and documents.
	I think, looking back...
	Ed Murkowski, I think she got, I think in an odd way, although it wouldn't have made a difference because it would have been 50-50 and thus a loser, although I'm sure we could have argued and had hearings about that for another month.
	I think it was Sarah Palin that actually helped swing this vote in the way that it did.
	Because she threatened Murkowski that if she voted to impeach Trump or do anything of the like to remove him that she would run for her seat in Alaska.
	Which I think Murkowski was actually kind of worried about.
	It could happen.
	And I think that that would probably have some Murkowski herself claimed that the reason she did is because she saw that there's just a bunch of politic politicization of the whole process.
	And it was just used to embarrass the president.
	And there's no purpose in it.
	And so she refused to take part in that.
	So she took sight of the Republicans, although she could have had other reasons.
	I found the one thing that was the kind of the argument for the no witnesses that came up on the on the Republican side, one of the president's lawyers gave this little spiel, which was not not one bit of it.
	And I thought this was a pretty good argument because he argues here that this that the reason that we're not going to go anywhere with this is because there's nothing to it to begin with.
	And that is not even discussed by the mainstream media.
	So I wanted to play it.
	So this is the argument for no witnesses.
	So this idea that they haven't had witnesses.
	Thank you.
	That's the smokescreen.
	You've heard from a lot of witnesses.
	The problem with the case, the problem with their position is, even with all of those witnesses, it doesn't prove up an impeachable offense.
	The articles fail.
	I think it's very dangerous if the House runs up, which they did, articles of impeachment quickly, so quickly That they are clamoring for evidence, despite the fact that they put all of this evidence forward.
	They got their wish of an impeachment by Christmas.
	That was the goal.
	But now they want you to do the work they failed to do.
	But as I said, time and time again we heard, you didn't hear from witnesses, you didn't hear from many witnesses.
	Mr.
	Schiff modified that a little bit today.
	A little bit.
	You heard from a lot of witnesses.
	But if we go down the road of witnesses, this is not a one-week process.
	Remember I talked about the waving the wand and the corruption in Ukraine was gone?
	You're not going to have a witness wand here where we just say, okay, you've got a week to do this and get it done.
	There's no way that would be proper under due process.
	But you know, due process is supposed to be for the person accused.
	And they are turning it on its head.
	They brought the articles before you.
	They're the ones that rushed the case up and then held it before you could actually start the proceedings.
	But they're the ones that passed the articles before Christmas.
	You know, we talked a lot about the court system and the fact that they were seeking witnesses.
	And when it got close to actually having a court proceeding...
	They decided that they didn't want to have that witness go through that proceeding.
	They actually withdrew the subpoena to move the case out.
	How many constitutional challenges will we have in this body?
	Because they placed a burden on you that they wouldn't take themselves in putting their case forward.
	If we look at our constitutional framework and our constitutional structure, that's not the way it's supposed to work.
	Yeah, this was very irritating to a lot of the senators.
	And there's a term for it, which the senator from Hawaii, Maisie Hirono, coined when she was interviewed.
	This is a president who already we know he has very few constraints on his behavior.
	And there will be even fewer.
	He will be running around saying that he has been exonerated.
	No, he has been bit off the hook by the Republicans who are not going to vote for his conviction.
	But he is not going to be set free by the American people, I hope, who get that this was not a fair trial with no witnesses, no documents, total stonewalling by the president.
	And I don't care what kind of nice little legal constitutional defenses that they came up with.
	All in my view, in bad faith.
	Nice little...
	I don't care about your nice little constitutional legal tricks.
	I don't care about that constitutional thing.
	Hey, Hawaii.
	Aloha, Hawaii.
	Vote her out.
	Get that woman out of here.
	Vote her out.
	Aloha.
	Aloha, Hawaii.
	Before we do anything else, I want to say Happy Black History Month, which really should be...
	ADOS History Month.
	And you can always remember when it's Black History Month because it's the shortest month and one of the coldest.
	That's the way we roll in America.
	However, something really nice happened that we're happy with.
	The United States Postal Service has come out with a Black Heritage Forever stamp of Gwen Ifill.
	Really?
	Yeah, which I think is really nice.
	For all the crap we gave her...
	Too many broadcasters get stamps.
	Yeah, I don't think...
	Well, it's a good question.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, it's great.
	It's the typical Gwen Ifill publicity shot, headshot, and it's a forever stamp.
	And we miss Gwen, in hindsight, when it's just something to be learned for ourselves.
	Yeah, when Gwen was there, she made it.
	Apparently, it was her, because when she left...
	It ended.
	She made sure that the PBS NewsHour was objective, and it wasn't like crazy like it is now, where they won't listen to anybody's other side of the story.
	You have two people on, they're supposed to be debating, but they're both in total agreement on everything.
	It's really, really bad.
	So we miss Gwen, and I'm very happy that she's honored in this small way, but cute, I'd take it.
	I'd take a stamp when I'm dead.
	In fact, I'll take that over a plaque.
	Give me a stamp.
	It's a perfect forever stamp.
	You're not getting a stamp.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the caucuses of Iowa, John C. Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships to see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and heights out there.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Let's do a quick count.
	We got 1,381.
	It's on the upper end.
	That's a lot of trolls.
	Hey, trolls!
	NoagendaStream.com is where you can join your fellow trolls, not just on show days, which is Thursday and second Thursdays, but 24-7.
	There's always someone in there.
	I pop in all the time.
	Just say, hey, see what's going on.
	People are watching what's going on in the news.
	They're listening to whatever podcast may be rolling.
	We do have a lot of live ones.
	It's a great place to hang out.
	And soon to be new and improved, noagendastream.com.
	It's pretty bare bones right now, but the chat room, or as we call it, the troll room, is really the place to be.
	In the morning as well, to Darren O'Neill.
	Once again, Darren hit it on the head with the artwork for episode 1212.
	We titled that one Five Bidens and broke a rule.
	Only one person caught it that mentioned it, at least.
	Oh, somebody caught it, Will.
	Yeah, on Twitter.
	We have three elements of post-production for the show.
	We have the title for the show, we have the artwork, and we have the opening clip.
	And we actually look for the opening clip first, then we go for the artwork, then we go for the title, and five...
	Five Bidens was just a good title.
	It's a very no-agenda title.
	We tried a couple others, but we already kind of settled on the mixing panel or the mixing module for Joe Biden, clearly run by his sound guy, reverb all the way up, distortion all the way up.
	I didn't personally, in hindsight, I think the dishonesty dial was funny, but I don't think Joe is really dishonest.
	He's just out of it.
	Yeah, that could have been...
	It gave off a political message that I didn't think was necessary.
	If that was at five, it would probably be more accurate.
	Yeah, if it had been half a notch.
	But still, Darren O'Neill nailed it, and we'd really appreciate it.
	There were some other ones that we'd looked at.
	I can't remember exactly what some of the objections were.
	There was one other one we liked, which...
	Well, let's go back and look.
	Actually, I'm seeing things.
	Oh, the Nigel Farage with the head inside the European Union stars.
	Oh, yeah, I like that one.
	And then we both, or I think Adam noticed before I did, but...
	It was not centered.
	It was kind of thrown slapdash.
	It was the right idea, but execution just didn't quite make it.
	Especially when you had to compare it to the O'Neill piece, which was extremely high-end.
	Yeah, it was.
	And very precise.
	But we appreciate the work that all of our artists do.
	Thank you so much.
	We like to do these analysis, I should mention, to give the artist some insight into how we do it to begin with so you can cheat the system.
	Seriously.
	It truly is a fact that less is often more.
	And it's got to pop.
	We all know it's got to pop.
	It's got to pop because we want to stand out amongst that huge row of podcasts.
	And whenever the art changes, it's noticeable.
	It's just another way people are reminded that there is still a best podcast in the universe.
	And that's the one you want to tap on, click on, etc.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com, part of our value-for-value model, where everybody contributes in one form or the other.
	Sometimes it's an intelligence analyst wishing to remain anonymous, but giving us deep inside analysis of things that he or she is already looking at.
	It's an artist.
	You heard four coronavirus jingles in a row.
	That's the value-for-value model right there.
	We also need to pay bills, and thank goodness we have a lot of producers who can contribute monetarily.
	We'd like to credit the ones $200 and above as our associate executive producers, and $300 and above as our executive producers for each episode.
	We also mentioned them earlier on, just like a Hollywood production.
	Although, you get the title, but you just don't get all the cool perks.
	There's no limo, no Four Seasons dinner, and no hookers.
	Anonymous starts us off.
	With a nice 12-12 donation, which may have been from the last show.
	Probably, but holy macaroni.
	It says Anonymous, N-J-N-K, which is about as easy as it comes.
	Well, thank you very much, Anonymous.
	That was it.
	So no jingles, no karma, just wow.
	No name, no nothing.
	And this is a special day.
	You may want to reiterate that we have this super palindrome going on, which it's just, it's the 33rd day of the year.
	There's 333 days to go because it's a leap year.
	It's a palindrome 0202-2020 in any country, in the ISO format.
	It won't happen for another, what, 900 years?
	Yeah, 900 years.
	Well, this doesn't address that.
	This is last week's number, 1212.
	No, I know, but I'm already moving on to what we'll see later on in our donation segment, in the segment here.
	Next is Randall Schaibel.
	Schaibel.
	Schaibel, you think?
	Yeah, S-C-H-A-I-B-L. Oh yeah, Schaibel.
	Schaibel.
	Looks like an L. Somerville, Massachusetts.
	Massachusetts.
	333.69.
	Jingle request, goat karma, China's asshole, and I love bugs.
	ITM, John and Adam, thank you for your courage and for making the greatest podcast in the universe.
	With this donation, I become a knight.
	I'd like to be called Sir Scheibel.
	My friend Mary, who has been a long-time listener, needs to be called out for being a douchebag.
	Okay, you can do that.
	Douchebag!
	Also got a birthday coming up on February 4th.
	I'm turning 26.
	I assume he's on the list.
	Check it out.
	Adam, you converted me to the OTG life.
	Okay.
	I thank you every day for the sanity that alone has brought me.
	Well, you're so welcome.
	Outstanding.
	I'd like to know how OTG are you.
	Let us know.
	It's always interesting.
	And here's what you requested.
	Chinese asshole!
	Hello, Fox!
	Bugs, bugs, bugs.
	Tastes like poop.
	You've got karma.
	And we'll see you at the round table, Sir Shable, to beat.
	Next is Thomas Hitchhaller, 321.
	He's from Austria.
	John and Adam, I am sending...
	Sorry?
	I think he's from Austria.
	Yeah, A.T. Austria is from Austria.
	What did I say?
	No, I just jumped in and just inserted myself.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sending you a countdown donation and appreciation of the services you provide.
	Austria is a great country.
	People should visit it.
	You provided me over the years, my amygdala being the main beneficiary, but this donation also comes with some critique.
	My last karma request did not produce the intended results.
	After considering the possibilities for this failure, I was left with the realization that my donation amount was too low for the requested service.
	So I upped the ante to try again.
	Please send some extra potent new human resource karma to me and my smoking hot wife.
	Eat pizza.
	The fun life has to end at some point, right?
	Time to get settled and serious.
	But before that, and as usual, can we get the shape-shifting Jews?
	Keep up the good work with all the best from Austria, Sir Thomas, the unbelieving knight.
	Okay, so what I think, and I don't think it has anything to do with the donation amount per se, but I think you need a swazzle nuff karma.
	Which is an old one, which really only pertained to a certain donation amount.
	So I will play that for you with the karma.
	It'll be the Swazilov karma.
	That should work.
	Roll up, roll up for the magical shape-shifting tune.
	Step right this way.
	Roll up.
	Roll up for the shape-shifting tune.
	Shape-shifting tune.
	You've got karma.
	Now, if that doesn't work, then I don't know what will.
	Well, who knows?
	Joseph Pinto in Atlanta, Georgia, comes in as the first associate executive producer at 23333.
	I'm broke, requesting jobs karma.
	Joseph, also call out Philip, hit me in the mouth after listening to Twit, for being a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Douchebag!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	All right, man.
	Hope that works out, Joseph.
	So now I have an issue with the next donation.
	Okay.
	Now, this person, who I won't mention at the moment, asked...
	Just for me to read an anonymous note.
	But he never said anything about being anonymous, but I'm making him anonymous.
	So I'm just going to read you the note, and then you can tell me how I'm supposed to handle this.
	It's too late now.
	But gentlemen, I'm sending this anonymous note to accompany my 202.50 donation by check.
	My request is a plug for a podcast I produce for a dear friend of mine.
	In fact, I think it's a show that you're I'm sure the Keeper's already subscribed.
	Find it online at sizequeenlove.com and thanks for continuing to deliver high quality shows for your producers.
	Alright, so I guess we just put Size Queen Love as the producer credit in this case.
	Or anonymous.
	Uh...
	Well, probably not.
	Well, either one.
	I don't care.
	I like Size Queen Love as a producer credit.
	That's kind of cool.
	Onward with Sir Mark, Duke of Japan, and all of the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.
	20220.
	And this is going to be our group of 20220s, which are the commemorative amount.
	Dear John and Adam.
	The perfect date to donate $20 to $200, $2.20.
	Thank you for always making sense of our world and being the only news source we trust.
	It's not often that we want to plug something for the producers of No Agenda, but here it comes.
	Yes, we are the architects, really, but 2020 is a big year for us as our Pecha Kucha 20x20 show and tell format, which Dame Astrid and I devised, is based on showing 20 images.
	Yes, they do this.
	This is one of the things they do.
	This is a worldwide thing.
	This is not just in Japan.
	Yeah, no, they're big on this.
	This is their thing.
	This is their big thing.
	This is their no agenda is Pecha Kucha.
	Pecha Kucha.
	Okay, you show 20 images was auto-forward for 20 seconds each.
	We started in Tokyo in 2003 and Pecha Kucha nights have spread around the world to over 1,200 cities with over 100 events each month.
	Just like No Agenda, we run it on a value-for-value model, and that's why it's spread far and wide.
	The number of parallels with No Agenda are unbelievable, especially now that the No Agenda meetups are growing globally.
	People simply love getting together.
	On the 20th of February, 2020, 2020, we'll be holding our international Pecha Kucha.
	It's actually the 20th of this month.
	Pecha Kucha Day in 100 cities, and we are hoping To have 1,000 presentations and will be made around the world.
	Check out what we're up to at...
	Here we go.
	IPK2020.com.
	IPK2020.com.
	Anyone can find an event near them or make a presentation online with our new Create platform.
	Just upload 20 images, voice, and share.
	Pecha Kucha.
	You have no agenda.
	Oh, come on.
	Put your soul into it, man.
	Pecha Kucha.
	You and no agenda are family, so here's the next 20.
	Thank you for your courage, Sir Mark, Duke of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Yeah, this Pecha Kucha, I have successfully been able to miss twice in Austin.
	Once because there was flooding.
	Believe it or not, the whole event was flooded out.
	But it's a phenomenon.
	The Pecha Kucha is a big deal.
	And it's just fun to say, a Pecha Kucha...
	Come over here.
	I'll pet your coochie with that.
	Do you pet your coochie your mom with that?
	It's got to be better than the TED Talks.
	Let's put it that way.
	Well, and thank you.
	You're making a great point.
	And TED Talks has all this, you know, crazy stuff that you can and can't do.
	I don't think there's any rules for pet your coochie.
	Just 20 by 20 and roll with it.
	It's great.
	They're doing good work.
	Wow.
	So we heard from Sir Mark and Dame Astrid in one show.
	That's nice.
	Yeah.
	John Gremling's next at $202.20.
	Yeah.
	This is my annual donation, and the palindrome made it a little more fun.
	No karma or anything, since that usually doesn't work out for me anyway.
	Well, there's something to be said for knowing what it does or doesn't do.
	Thank you very much, John.
	Anonymous 2020.
	Adam and John, as it happens, I'm turning 33 on this 33rd day of 2020, which is, of course, 2-2.
	Yep.
	So here's some value for value.
	I could use some job startup karma.
	And here's the hoping the auspicious birthday slash palindrome has a multiplier effect on said karma for jingles.
	Maybe just some angelic initiatives of choice.
	Yep.
	Just for good measure.
	Yes, and keep up the good work.
	73s.
	Yeah, 73s.
	Kilo 5, Alpha Charlie Charlie, and here you go.
	You were the president.
	Oops, that's not what I wanted.
	I wanted the nice little ISO. That's what we wanted.
	That's true.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Dame Laura, the Snowy Cascades, 2020.
	No jingles, no karma.
	And then she writes, go Chiefs!
	Yeah, go Chiefs!
	Today is the big day!
	I'm very excited about the Super Bowl!
	I love, you know, the more...
	What?
	Well, because I'm in such conflict.
	I know that first I was thinking the Chiefs will win, and then because of the racist nature of their name, and that'll bring it to the forefront, and then I thought, well, no, wait a minute, it's got to be the 49ers, because they have a female coach, not the head coach, but a female coach, and she's queer or gay or lesbian, whatever it is, which doesn't matter, but...
	And then, all of a sudden, the Chiefs quarterback was wearing a Trump-Kanye sweatshirt.
	So I'm like, wow, is it the San Francisco Nancy Pelosi's versus the Kansas City Trumpy Chiefs?
	And I'm like, I'm not sure which way it's going to go.
	And then I see, you know, the real news is out that the Super Bowl will feature women owners on each side for the first time in history.
	So it's got to be the 49ers, even though I really despise your team and California and everything about it.
	Well, let's go to another source.
	We don't have his donation today, even though I think he sent one in, but it didn't come in on time.
	It was over the limit.
	But for obvious reasons, this is Fugizoto.
	Yeah.
	Or Earl.
	Yeah.
	He says, he goes on about these octopuses, emotional support octopus.
	And he has one of the, I thought it was for one of the teams, but then I look closer and I see, he says, go, go.
	Go chefs!
	Go chefs!
	So I guess it's the food service people he's rooting for.
	So go chefs!
	I mean, I will be rooting for the Chiefs, but I really think that the fix is in for the 49ers.
	The Chiefs are – both teams are fun to watch.
	And the curious thing is the Chiefs' offense is fun to watch and the 49ers' defense is fun to watch.
	So you're going to – it'll be fun to watch.
	It'll be a fun game to watch.
	Both teams – here's another – since we're talking about it.
	Both teams – the coaches on both teams have a history of choking, which makes it really interesting because the big guy on the Chiefs, Andy Reid is a coach and he's a big fat guy.
	And he was in the Super Bowl before and they lost and it was a choke job.
	And then the 49ers head coach was the guy, he wasn't the head coach, but he was the offensive coordinator, I believe, in the Atlantic game when they played the Patriots, and it was the biggest choke job in the history of the Super Bowl.
	So we have two guys that are potential massive choke artists playing against each other.
	Something's got to give.
	Who will choke the hardest?
	We'll find out later today.
	Onward with Sir Woody of the Falls in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, $202.20.
	Merry Groundhog Day is something else we forgot about.
	At 4.35pm I will complete my 73rd revolution around the old sun.
	Yay!
	Congratulations.
	On this eventful day, I would like to express my gratitude for all you do.
	The world just wouldn't be right without the No Agenda show.
	Thank you very much for this old geezer on his birthday, Sir Woody of the Falls.
	Hey, well, Sir Woody, you're not old.
	You're still perfectly fine to be president, so you could be the leader of the free world.
	Maybe too young to be president.
	Exactly.
	Don't put yourself down too much.
	And thank you very much for supporting us.
	That is incredibly appreciated.
	And he's got a birthday.
	Yes.
	Anno Ono Priester in Seust.
	Seust.
	$202.02.
	That's the Netherlands.
	Celebrating 0202220202, the day that my youngest human resource celebrates her 22nd birthday.
	As she is now looking at...
	Next steps in her education, a special goat karma for her would be much appreciated.
	Thanks again for the infosainment.
	That's one we don't use enough.
	Infosainment, the best podcast in the universe, gives me.
	Unlike in my youth, the two Sundays a week are something to look forward to.
	A few karmas would be much appreciated.
	I'm sure this will also help to contain the Chinese plague from spreading.
	And before I forget, Epstein didn't kill himself.
	You've got our money.
	I should mention later in the show, we're going to have some testimony from the Weinstein case that will curl your hair.
	Yeah, I love it.
	Yes, it will curl your hair and other things.
	Sir Silverdude of the Silver Dolphins, 20202, in Severn, Maryland.
	I'd like to order an order of stop the hammering and goat karma for all who need it.
	Now I am no numerologist, but 02022020 looks pretty cool to me.
	After realizing I missed donating in January, I felt obliged to correct the error.
	Also, I retired from the Navy last February after 20 years of some work, lots of waiting, and lots of doses of mandatory fun.
	I'll look for more examples of the Magic 20 to freak me out.
	Keep it wacky.
	Yeah, congratulations, Sir Silverdude.
	That's nice.
	Well deserved.
	Stop the hammering!
	You've got karma.
	Sorry, he needed a goat karma.
	Redo.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Now we're rocking and rolling.
	Trevor Davidson, 20202, from Calgary, Alberta.
	Greetings from Calgary, Scandinavia.
	I got hit in the mouth a year or two ago from a friend.
	At first I was fearful that it was a podcast that was just a right-wing conspiracy outlet to defend Trump.
	I stuck with it and realized that when you deconstruct media and all they talk about is orange man bad, it can't seem that way.
	Seeing how the media operates has been an eye-opener and scary since they are still deemed trustworthy.
	Not by us.
	If any of the dames and knights out there know of an outlet doing the same deconstruction thing here in Canada, that would be great to hear.
	Yeah, I would say the rebel.
	The Rebel comes pretty...
	Oh, the Rebel, yeah.
	The Rebel comes very close.
	There's good material on the Rebel.
	For sure, for sure.
	We're getting pretty divided up here, and when the PM gifts what he deems good media $600 million, it creates dot, dot, dot questions.
	I actually have a clip about that for later.
	Good.
	Anyways...
	After hearing the horse race, I knew it was time to get de-douched.
	You've been de-douched.
	We're working for the new company that just started with some friends that could request some goat karma followed by a Klobuchar.
	I think that sounds pretty good.
	And finally, it's true.
	I have to say, the Amy, that sounds pretty good.
	That's become our new...
	We've dropped that's true from our vocabulary here at home.
	And now everything is, hey, ready for dinner?
	It's like, that sounds pretty good.
	Yeah.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you very much for that.
	A bit more idiotic.
	I think that sounds pretty good.
	That's true.
	You've got karma.
	Shoot!
	Goat karma.
	I screwed it up again.
	Everyone's asking for goat karma today.
	Do it again, then.
	You've got...
	Better than doing it over.
	I wonder what these double doses are going to do.
	William Bagdon and Conchohokan.
	Conchohokan.
	Conchohokan.
	I can't pronounce this city.
	It's $200 from him and he's in Pennsylvania.
	It's Conchohokan.
	Conchohokan.
	Conchohokan.
	Yeah, something like that.
	I've been man overboard for a while but I can't ignore that the Coronavirus contains the magic number of A, nuclear tides, by informatics, stackexchange.com.
	What?
	Yeah, well, this is what we discussed.
	It has the DNA, the genetic code has 33 A's at the end.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Well, of course, I mean...
	We have not ignored that.
	We discussed it immediately.
	We talked about it on the last show.
	And it's obvious.
	It means something is up.
	Something is up.
	No jingles, no karma, it looks like from William.
	That's fine.
	Jason Gray's last on the list in North Glen, Colorado at $200.
	Love the show.
	I may not make it to knighthood, as Kung Flu will undoubtedly lead to martial law.
	Forced vaccinations and the collapse of the economy will all be OTG. Shout out to the open eyes that hit me in the mouth.
	Claude and Tiger, LJ and Striker.
	Any small business karma would be appreciated as I venture into a new field.
	You've got karma.
	And that is our list of associate executive producers and executive producers, although I'm probably going to include Eric from Stockholm up in the list because it looks like there could be an amount of money that didn't translate.
	Yeah, something got lost in the Euro translation.
	And so we probably push him up.
	Unless he just...
	Does he have a note or not?
	He has no note.
	I'll go look on the email in the next segment.
	But it...
	There's no reason for that $199 is not anonymous.
	No.
	It doesn't make sense.
	Maybe just...
	I don't know.
	Who knows what it is.
	But anyway...
	I eschew the executive producership.
	Thank you very much to our associate and our straight-up executive producers.
	A good showing for today.
	Thanks for participating in the magic number of the palindrome.
	It makes everybody feel good.
	It's a great number.
	And you help your podcast continue to be produced.
	And that is highly...
	Appreciate it.
	And we'll be thanking more people in our second segment coming up later on.
	Remember, we are here twice a week on Thursdays or Sundays, alternatively.
	But we're here.
	We're always here.
	And we're here because we love doing the best podcast in the universe with you.
	And you can support us for our next show, which will be on Thursday.
	All you do is go to Dvorak.org slash NA. Pretty sure you're up to speed on all things Wuhan flu.com.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Mill! Mill! Water! Order!
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	Just one other element of the Wuhan sleuthsing I didn't get a clip of it.
	It was a local thing.
	I just missed it.
	Apparently, they're flying these drones.
	Have you seen these videos?
	No.
	They're flying these drones around Wuhan.
	Yeah.
	And the drones have loudspeakers on them.
	And the drones fly up.
	They fly over your head and they start yelling at you if you don't wear a mask.
	Oh.
	They show one where apparently they yell at some little kid who didn't know what the hell was going on.
	He runs down the street scared to death.
	Wow.
	No, I have not seen these videos.
	I did want to just jump in on what our producer said.
	Who was it who was talking about the $600 million?
	Yes, that was Trevor from Calgary.
	So I just I just clipped this this morning from the rebel, actually, who was complaining about this, about a new policy paper that has come out about elections in Canada.
	And actually, the title of it is Canadian government wants to regulate Internet media, according to a cabinet advisory panel who released this, well, advisory paper as to what the Canadian government should do to protect its citizens from horrible disinformation. advisory paper as to what the Canadian government should do And Canada does have a constitutional clause about freedom of speech and freedom of expression and.
	In fact, I think it expressly states freedom to use all media to communicate your message, which would include podcasts and YouTube, etc.
	So I chopped it down a bit.
	This is Ezra Levant from The Rebel discussing this very interesting case in Canada.
	The word regulate appears 54 times.
	In their report.
	54.
	Of course it did.
	Like this.
	We recommend that the CRTC regulate certain internet media content undertakings.
	Oh, really?
	Of course you do.
	Let me give you an example of one of their proposals.
	In an increasingly connected society, an appropriate balance should be struck between maintaining a free and open space for the exchange of ideas and information, respecting and protecting individual and collective rights and freedoms, and not...
	Further marginalizing Canadians from diverse social locations?
	At the core of the challenges posed by harmful content is the question of the rights and responsibilities of digital intermediaries for the accuracy or appropriateness of information that is distributed on or shared via their platforms and any related social harms that may be caused?
	Hang on.
	I mean, I know the Charter of Rights.
	It has a section called Fundamental Freedoms, and it says everyone has the following fundamental freedoms.
	It's granted to me as an individual freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of thought, etc.
	So how are they going to do this?
	How are they going to regulate the Internet?
	they want the government to decide.
	A strong, financially stable and independent news sector that delivers diverse, accurate, trusted and reliable sources of news to Canadians through a variety of media is essential to the health of democracy and to an engaged citizenry.
	It is also necessary to counter the spread of misinformation facilitated by communications technologies.
	This section focuses on ensuring that Canadians have access to a wide range of accurate, reliable and trusted sources of Canadian news.
	They're certain of their truth.
	My point is, who is telling the truth and who is lying and everything in between Well, that's ours as individuals to figure out.
	It's part of life.
	But this Trudeau handpicked panel wants to make determinations for you by using the government.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	So that's what you're looking at, Canada.
	It's just like the UK, man.
	You don't actually have free speech, and we're getting very close to being shut down here as well.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, not really shut down, but, you know, we don't quite have the government.
	Well, we actually do have the government saying we can't have dishonest ads for political ads that can't happen, as if not every politician lies one way or the other.
	Talking about lying, this might get into a couple of clips I've been running into play.
	Yeah.
	Well, it would be nice if I had the right sheet of paper somehow and moved it.
	Yeah, go on with your next thing.
	Okay, well...
	Oh, here it is.
	Nope, it's not it either.
	I'm falling apart!
	Yeah, you are.
	Well, I was going to play something that I was actually kind of related to the donation segment, our value for value model.
	So I'll do that here now while you're looking for it.
	This is a quick clip.
	Dr. Mark Hyman.
	Is he on the show The Doctors?
	Maybe he's definitely a TV show doctor.
	And he relates a story about how incredibly corrupt television is, specifically when it's incredibly corrupt in general.
	But this one example was interesting to me because of something that I witnessed and participated in 35 years ago.
	And this is about the inherent dishonesty of television, media, in this case a health-related show, when it comes to sponsors, advertisers, or native ads not being disclosed.
	I can tell you a story from the past, because the show's not on the air anymore.
	It was the Martha Stewart Show.
	And I was on the show, and we were working with a producer, and we were talking about getting healthy and working out and detoxing, and Martha had her trainer there.
	And the producer says, well, we're going to have to do a bit as part of the segment on dairy and how dairy is such a great sports recovery drink.
	No way.
	Yes.
	And so I was like, you know, I'm just sorry to tell you, but there's all this evidence that that's not true.
	So I... Downloaded all the scientific papers documenting the science behind the fact that dairy isn't a sports drink.
	And he's like, I know, but we kind of have to because this spot is sponsored by the Dairy Council.
	Oh my gosh.
	And then if you're ever on television, you know that the experts don't get notes.
	They don't get cue cards.
	They don't get teleprompters.
	They have to know their stuff.
	Well, this woman, who was the trainer, had all these cue cards that was being held up by...
	About dairy, with all the bullet points of why dairy is such a great food and sports drink, it's insidious.
	So we think we're getting news, we're thinking we're getting authentic information.
	From experts, too.
	From doctors or specialists or experts, and we are influenced by these experts.
	Huge!
	I mean, the evidence is so clear that industry is heavily funding science.
	Well, we call it science, but I heard this, and surprise is nobody, but I wanted to relate a story that happened to me 35 years ago with the Dutch Dairy Council when I was doing the television show in the Netherlands.
	Maybe I was just 20.
	I started when I was 19.
	I was just 20.
	And a decision was made, and I wasn't really clued into it in the beginning, but Oh, yeah, you're going to do this for every interview you do.
	We're going to put a glass of milk here, and the guest typically had a Coke or a beer or whatever, a glass of wine.
	And...
	And it would just be on the table, and then at a certain point, the producer said, yeah, could you take a drink of that during the interview?
	I'm like, wait a minute.
	So they literally wanted me to take a drink of milk while I'm interviewing Mick Jagger.
	So Mick Jagger's answering a question, and then I take a drink of milk, which they cut to me full frame.
	And I said, hey, and this was still on a public...
	It's public broadcast television, so it was clearly not entirely legal.
	Oh, it sounds illegal.
	And I said, what is going on here?
	And they said, would you like a new car?
	And I said, yes.
	And that was the end of the conversation.
	And I drank milk during interviews for two years, nonstop.
	I have no idea how much they were getting from the dairy council.
	But you got a car?
	Did you get a car?
	Yeah, I did.
	I got a...
	It was brand new, but it was a Volvo 480 ES. I don't think they make it anymore.
	It's one of the first Volvo sports cars, which, yes, indeed, is an oxymoron.
	Or it's a contradiction in terms at best.
	You said that little car was pretty cool.
	That's been going on for decades and decades and decades.
	And that's why we love doing this show here.
	Because it's pretty damn honest.
	We don't get the hookers or the free cars or nothing.
	No.
	We get some CBD solve.
	We get nice gifts from our producers.
	Spices.
	Bumper stickers.
	Bumper stickers.
	Cool stuff.
	Hats.
	We get some hats.
	Well, that brings me to kind of just the opposite end of the spectrum where the media is so dumb they don't even know what's real or what's not.
	I want to play a couple of clips.
	The Sun newspaper has a guy, Liam Evans, who does these interviews with all kinds of people.
	He's had Farage and all these guys on there.
	But this is Andrew Doyle.
	Andrew Doyle is a comic.
	But he's a very serious comic on this interview.
	And he's the guy who does that fake character.
	What's her name?
	I think Miriam something.
	Tatiana McGrath, I think, is the name.
	And if you're on Twitter, you run into this Tatiana McGrath.
	Oh, yeah.
	The spoof account.
	I got you.
	It's a spoof account.
	And she plays or he plays her.
	And she is a liberal person.
	Kind of a Lib Joe type.
	And she says all these dumb stuff.
	It's very entertaining to watch, yes.
	It's very entertaining to read.
	But here's this guy talking about Brexit and some other things.
	And these two clips, the second clip really applies to what you just played.
	But let's play clip one.
	The causes of anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-homophobia, anti-transphobia, all of that kind of stuff.
	These are good causes that virtually everyone gets on board with, right?
	So we're talking about a minority of social justice activists have so much power.
	That's the problem with them.
	If it were just a few people on Twitter mouthing off, I wouldn't care about that.
	It is a minority, but they seem to have infected all the major institutions in the country.
	So they're there in the quangos, to whom the government outsources all kinds of They're there in the law.
	They're there in education.
	They're certainly there in the media.
	They're 100% there in the arts.
	You know, they totally dominate comedy in the arts and drama and TV. So when you have a small group of people, Who come generally from very bourgeois backgrounds, very sort of privileged people, talking about how oppressed they are, but running everything.
	That's kind of funny.
	So it's quite a good idea to mock that, because I think that, personally, I like to punch up in comedy.
	You know, there's all this stuff about punching up and punching down, right?
	And I like to punch up.
	I like to...
	To attack those in power.
	And this is where the debate lies.
	So the people who don't like what I do will say that I punch down at minority groups, even though minority groups are never the target.
	So that's just kind of a basic misinterpretation, but quite a common one.
	But I'm sort of attacking those who would patronise the minority groups, those who want to try and engineer society in the way that they want, those who have a complete intolerance to any kind of dissent, any kind of alternative viewpoint, even to a sort of basic discussion of principle, you know?
	So he's talking about how the social justice wars have taken over everything, which is why our show gets attention is because we're not part of that group.
	But they run the media.
	This is John Legend.
	Well, it's not just John Legend.
	It's Sleeping Giants.
	It's the cancel culture.
	And it's very frightening for big brands in particular because they don't quite know exactly if the tweet storm or wherever it's going to...
	And I think it typically is on Twitter because that's part of the mainstream media machine, really.
	It's quoted the most and the journalists are all on there.
	So what...
	And you can still go look at Fox News.
	You can look at Tucker Carlson.
	He's still running MyPillow.com ads.
	And it's amazing that he's on the...
	Maybe he took a pay cut or something because they are not making the money they need to make.
	And that's purely because none of the pharmaceuticals, none of the other big brands...
	Want to advertise on his show because all they get is the tweet storm of people saying, oh, you're evil, you must be Nazis, and big brands walk away from it.
	It is an unfortunate addition to my statement that you can't monetize the network for this very reason, for cancel culture.
	Well, it doesn't happen to us.
	So this guy, who is a character, decided to write an op-ed...
	And sent it into the, I think, at the Telegraph or the Express.
	Oh, beautiful.
	Under a pseudonym, of course.
	Under a pseudonym.
	And it was just, and it was about how comics should be, there should be special laws against hate speech and comedy clubs.
	And apparently they took it hook, line, and sinker, and other people started writing about this in agreement.
	It's already in Prime Minister Question Time, I'm sure.
	So here's this part.
	This is very funny if you listen to the details.
	Now, you wrote a fantastic article for The Independent that was completely out there, and they published it, and you submitted it under Not Your Name.
	Can you talk a bit about that and why you think so many people fall for Titania McGrath being real?
	So you're talking about an article by Liam Evans, which is for The Independent.
	Oh, Liam Evans.
	Yes.
	So Liam Evans submitted an article.
	Liam Evans doesn't exist.
	And it was obviously a hoax.
	So clearly a hoax.
	What he was saying was that comedians need to be subject to hate speech laws.
	And he gave a couple of examples and said, you know, basically the police ought to get involved.
	Now, this is such a kind of...
	authoritarian stance that you know if i were working at the independent i would look at that and think well this is not real is it this is this is made up this is someone trying to hoax us but the fact that they published it because they agreed with the sentiment right that's what it exposed it also exposed the kind of the um i suppose the the lack of any kind of background check this was a complete unknown someone with no online presence thinking skills so nothing there i All it is, is they wanted to push a woke agenda, right?
	And it's just that in that article, which is still online, if you take the fourth letter of every sentence, it spells out, Titania McGrath wrote this, you gullible hacks.
	Now, I'm not suggesting they should have spotted that.
	But the article in and of itself was so obviously made up.
	And of course...
	The point of this, I mean, I know some people accused or suggested that the point of this was to try and suggest that this is sort of widespread view, this widespread sort of intolerance to comedy and this widespread sort of puritanism when it comes to comedy.
	There is that.
	I don't think it's as widespread as people think, but it's there.
	But actually the target of that satire was the media, was the woke media, who absolutely will just go along with absolutely anything, with no thought whatsoever.
	Just sort of blindly pushing agenda.
	And, you know, so it works.
	But, I mean, have a look at the art.
	It's ludicrous.
	It's utterly stupid.
	And saying that, ever since then, there's been a few articles that have come out that have been even worse.
	Yeah.
	Where does this come from?
	How did this happen?
	Well, this is what we're trying to figure out.
	We actually talked about this.
	Didn't we talk about this just briefly after the show?
	We talked about it.
	Where did this come from?
	It's in the educational system, and one of the things we've kind of both identified, in fact, you've kind of just proven the point, that all this stuff goes way back.
	You had that 30-year-old anecdote about the milk, but...
	I'm starting to think that it came about with the security state after World War II. It started with the takeover of the education by the woke, the education system.
	And I think a lot of it has to do with television.
	None of this maybe would even take place if there weren't these screens.
	Well, time to remind everybody that when I was a kid, and I get to say that now with my double nickels, when I was a kid, we were limited to how much TV we could watch.
	And it was, don't sit too close, don't watch too much, it's going to rot your brain.
	And I'm sure that was propagated by the book industry or whatever.
	I don't think the book industry needed to do that.
	It was called the boob tube.
	Boob tube, yeah.
	And these days, you see kids in the stroller on iPads, you know.
	Yeah.
	The newspapers did nothing about this.
	They couldn't compete.
	You talk about the death of the newspapers.
	They used to be competitive, but then the TV news started stealing their lunch, and of course now they blame the internet, but the internet's not the problem.
	The internet is just television in a network form.
	In a hard-to-monetize form, which makes it that much more interesting.
	And so you have this situation where the entire public has become stupefied, but to the extent that it is, this is what we're talking about.
	Is it really any worse with the idiots at the Independent printing this guy's...
	And by the way, I made a mistake, but I said Liam Evans was the interviewer.
	That's not the case.
	It was the fake name for this article.
	If the Independent is so stupid as to run this fake, hoax, Jonathan Swift kind of essay, just without even doing any research or checking it out or even thinking that it's phony or fake...
	I'm not convinced that this wouldn't have happened 40 years ago.
	Well...
	This kind of explains why this was in my clip bin.
	And I brought it to the show and thinking, how does this relate to anything?
	And it kind of relates to this, the education system.
	I'm sure you've seen the old Soviet spy guy.
	We've played clips from him on YouTube where he says, ah, we attacked America.
	We attacked the West through the educational system.
	We brought in all these Marxist-Leninist thinking and So I don't know how this wound up in my clip, but it's two minutes, so I'll play it.
	But before you play that, what you just said, just as a reminder, earlier in the show we pointed out the stupidity of Harvard, hiring these spies from China.
	I mean, it's very easy for the educational system to be corrupted.
	At the highest levels.
	The McElhaney report?
	How do you pronounce it?
	McElhaney Report.
	It was on TV in the mid to late 90s, I want to say.
	Earlier.
	Could have been earlier.
	Some of the references in this don't go back that far.
	It's not from 2011 was the upload date, so I was trying to source a date for it.
	But the title of this was The Perestroika Deception.
	And it kind of explains...
	In an odd way, the guy I'm talking with, KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov, that's the guy who warned America that the Soviet Union, not Russia, the Soviet Union had set us up for this hollowing out the West from within through the educational system.
	So this is just an introduction, and I encourage everyone to watch this.
	It's a whole hour.
	This is just two minutes of the introduction of the Perestroika Deception, which I believe is the fourth book that this particular author, who's being interviewed, put out.
	And let's just see if it pertains.
	I think it does.
	I think it connects to this.
	Welcome to the McElhaney Report.
	I'm Bill McElhaney.
	On this show, we cover current issues of the day, but always from a viewpoint or perspective rarely aired by the mass media.
	We hope you'll find it interesting.
	Since 1989, the world has been told that the Soviet Union collapsed and that, except for several countries, communism is dead and the U.S. won the Cold War.
	The truth, the reality, is quite the reverse.
	Everything we have witnessed since 1989 has been a massive and successful.
	Welcome to my show!
	To deceive the West and achieve the goal of Leninist strategy, a totalitarian world government or international police state.
	We know this from the evidence provided by Anatoly Galitsyn, the most important defector from the KGB who came to America in 1961.
	In 1980, he wrote a book, New Lives for Old, that was published in 1984, which described the disinformation strategy and made specific predictions as to what the KGB would do in subsequent years, such as removing the Berlin Wall, changing the name of the KGB itself, and other structures in the Soviet hierarchy and also the role to be played by Mikhail Gorbachev.
	An independent analysis of these predictions years later showed that over 94% of them came true by 1991 and since then.
	That's how we know Golitsyn was telling the truth and quite correct.
	Our guest today, who first appeared on this show in 1995, is uniquely qualified to expose this conspiratorial strategy.
	Based in London, he publishes ten newsletters and reviews on economic, financial, and political intelligence, including Soviet Analysts.
	These invaluable periodicals incorporate the understanding of post-1989 events provided by Anatoly Galitsyn.
	He's published Galitsyn's second book, Perestroika Deception.
	He's also published...
	Joseph Douglas' Red Cocaine on the Soviet Strategy of Using Drugs to Sabotage the West.
	And he's published a very important book, The European Union Collective, on the regional world government now in place over both Europe and Britain.
	So it was Antoli Golitsyn, which is a different guy, but he was also a KGB defector.
	And a couple of takeaways from this, because if you've watched that whole interview, it's clear that there were definitely Leninist, Marxist messaging pumped into the Western school system, particularly the United States.
	But also, when you listen, I mean, I was in the Soviet Union in 1989, just before David Hasselhoff personally brought the wall down.
	A lot of politicians who are still in Congress today, looking at these 70 to 80-year-olds, they probably have this in their head.
	And I can't really blame them for it to a degree.
	It's like, this is nothing different.
	They just changed the name of the KGB to the FSB. Your thought?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, I always thought that guy was kind of an alarmist.
	But as we witness more and more and more, especially what's going on now with this latest group, the Millennials and the Zs, Zoomers, they're very susceptible to this.
	It seems like they got it from the beginning.
	They get it on the media.
	They get it on TV. They get it from the news.
	If anything, they've been taught to subject to authority.
	Don't question authority.
	It's on the news.
	It must be true.
	You're right.
	And we talk about this.
	A couple of things I've noticed is a new phenomenon I've run into.
	And we had a discussion about this at the table.
	And it goes thus.
	And I've only noticed this recently.
	So I'm in line at one of the Whole Foods or one of these types of places.
	And I've got a cart full of stuff and there's somebody behind me, a millennial almost always.
	And the millennial has like one item.
	The last most recent example which triggered the thinking because I'm starting to see a pattern.
	She had one pint of ice cream.
	I had a cart full of stuff.
	I said, you want to go ahead?
	And I gave her the motion to go ahead of me in line because there's no reason she should wait for me to ring all this stuff when she's got one crappy pint of ice cream.
	That's all she's got.
	And it's melting in her hand.
	Oh, no thanks.
	No thanks.
	I can wait.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Were you wearing your Crocs?
	Because she might have just been afraid of you.
	You want me to do this continuous?
	Come on!
	Just one joke.
	I've never had Crocs.
	So...
	So then I finally get to the part of the line where I'm just about to put my stuff on the thing and I offered her a second time.
	Would you like to go ahead?
	And right now is the moment.
	You know, you can just jump in front of me and ring it up and you'll be out of here.
	No, no, no, no thanks.
	No thanks.
	This has happened to me more than once.
	And so I brought it up.
	I think this has seemed pretty screwy because I'm not the type of person to say no.
	No, I'd be like, thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, I say thank you, and I go in front.
	So the two theories came out of the table.
	One was that millennials don't like to have any interaction with anybody, and so this is nerve-wracking.
	It's nerve-wracking to deal with this kind of situation, which is you're in line where you belong.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you're not, you're not getting, you know.
	So, yeah.
	The other one, which was more disturbing, I didn't completely buy this one, the other one was, oh, well, yeah, they're deferring because I'm old.
	And they're just being super polite.
	What the hell does that?
	Well, first of all, you don't look super old.
	Well, that's my thinking.
	I find that to be less likely.
	Yeah, I'm not buying that.
	I wasn't buying it either.
	But for sure, when we were kids, we definitely scoffed at old people.
	Hey, old man!
	You know, we'd just yell at them.
	And we were assholes, of course.
	But there was a time in my youth, like, hey, get out of the way, old man!
	It was very mean.
	Yeah.
	So, well, that does seem like not so much Soviet Union stuff, but Leninist, perhaps, Marxist.
	Well, it's very, you know, it's order.
	This is my position.
	I'm going to stay here and then move up as I'm supposed to, when I'm supposed to.
	I find it to be very peculiar.
	And I would like to hear from others out there.
	This is part of my collection of millennialisms.
	I would like to hear from others out there who have some similar experiences.
	Because we noticed this.
	We did have this about four or five years ago on the show.
	We first started discussing millennials.
	And we noticed this one phenomenon is that they don't know how to deal with a line cutter.
	Right.
	Oh, no, not at all.
	Not at all.
	They don't say anything.
	They look at each other and they just scratch their heads.
	They don't know what to do.
	It takes a boomer or even a Gen Xer to tell the guy, hey, hey, buddy, the line is back there.
	Right, right, right.
	Along similar lines, since we're doing old stuff, a documentary from 1978.
	This is how far back we document the pet explosion.
	Most people don't know it, but we're in the middle of a pet explosion throughout not only the United States, but throughout the world.
	And this is brought about from the new pattern that has emerged in the last 10-15 years in the family life.
	I would say that the pill is probably largely more responsible for the pet explosion than any other single factor.
	This is quite a surprise to a lot of people that don't understand the business and haven't done any background work.
	But it's very simple.
	The old style was for the husband to earn the living and the mother stayed at home.
	Today we have a different pattern.
	Today the husband and wife both work.
	And they want to prepare themselves with a home and some of the things that they'd like to have before they start a family.
	Well, this is just fine from a planning standpoint.
	But nature can't be put aside.
	So when the young mother comes home, she has to have something to fondle.
	Something to mother, something to love.
	She'll have a pet.
	The rest of it in the normal pattern would be that the grandparents would have children.
	Grandchildren to take care of, to fondle, and to help to rear.
	And this would satisfy their need for love and giving of love and receiving.
	When this has been set aside for five, six, seven, or eight years, what do they do?
	They get a pet.
	Now we're talking about both sides of the family.
	We're not talking about just one.
	Now we have a three-way explosion.
	The three-way pet explosion.
	This is not new.
	It's been building for a long time.
	Yeah, all part of a similar sociological phenomenon that began at some point.
	During the Soviet era.
	Not that that specifically had something to do with it, but you take television, you take the infiltration of the schools, you take medical breakthroughs, like the pill.
	Of course, it was a true revolution.
	Okay, well what else can we talk about that's depressing?
	Well, I'll start and this will fold nicely into your Weinstein update.
	This is an Epstein update.
	um, Cindy McCain, who is the widow of, uh, John McCain was on a panel.
	And I, this is a clip from almost a week ago, but now I get to play it.
	And here's what she had to say about Epstein.
	Uh, the perception of a lot of, between a lot of young people is that there is an untouchable ring of governmental and economic elites in this country, um, that not only benefit, like she mentioned, but actively participate in sex trafficking.
	Jeffrey Epstein was an example.
	Robert Kraft was arrested not far from here on trafficking charges.
	Are these power players a priority for us right now?
	Can we even touch them?
	Or is this a pipe dream that we need to address in the future somehow?
	No, it's like everything.
	You know, it hides in plain sight.
	Epstein was hiding in plain sight.
	We all knew about him.
	We all knew what he was doing.
	But we had no one that was...
	What?
	What?
	We all knew.
	Everybody knew.
	We all knew.
	Yet you kept quiet?
	I find this abhorrent.
	Where did you get this clip, by the way?
	Well, I'd have to go back and look, because I said I had it a week ago.
	It's on panel.
	But this guy's full of shit, for one thing.
	He says that Robert Kraft, who was the owner of the Patriots, was arrested on trafficking?
	No, of course he's full of shit.
	He was arrested for soliciting a prostitute.
	Right.
	That's not trafficking.
	I got it, but who cares?
	No, I do care, because I think they're going to...
	This is another one of those examples of where they start to twist the language.
	Oh, sure.
	Well...
	What else is new?
	You solicited a prostitute.
	Now you're involved in sex trafficking somehow.
	And we all knew about it.
	You know, it's like everything.
	You know, it hides in plain sight.
	Epstein was hiding in plain sight.
	We all knew about him.
	We all knew what he was doing.
	But we had no one that was...
	No legal aspect that would go after him.
	They were afraid of him.
	The wife of a United States senator...
	Says here, well, no one would do anything.
	Go after him.
	For whatever reason, they were afraid of him.
	Whatever reason, they were afraid of him.
	What do you think, Cindy?
	Someone said, BS. We're not afraid of you anymore and what you're doing.
	It's not only wrong, it's illegal, it's, you know, all those things.
	It's like a house of cards now.
	It's going to start tumbling, believe me.
	And these guys, if they don't leave the country, number one, they're going to get caught.
	And not only will they get caught, but they're going to be made examples of.
	And that's exactly what we should be doing with these guys, especially.
	In my opinion, if, you know, I know there's questions, but X is a chicken shit for doing what he did.
	He should have faced the music, that one.
	He should have.
	Wow.
	Sorry.
	Wow.
	Really, Ms.
	McCain?
	Really?
	You're the wife of sitting U.S. Senator and now Epstein's a chicken shit?
	We all knew.
	Everybody knew.
	We all knew.
	That's disgusting.
	That's disgusting.
	That's disgusting in a meta sense.
	That's disgusting.
	What I'm about to play...
	It's truly, sickeningly disgusting.
	It's disgusting on a visceral level.
	Yes.
	So this is a testimony.
	This is from Court TV, and what they do is they...
	Oh, by the way, Court TV is available on Pluto.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, just FYI. Court TV, it's also online.
	You can get it online.
	But Court TV, and then you get to see this one of the most...
	You want to see a rising star if she wants to stay with it.
	There's this woman that they have, one of the correspondents.
	She goes to the cases and then she reports back.
	They have about three or four really good looking ladies.
	But this one, this is just the one you can just see.
	She's going to fight.
	She's got law degree.
	She's got all these characters.
	Miss Arkansas from some year, I think 10 years ago.
	She's Miss Arkansas and her name is...
	And she's got a fake, like a stage name already or a stripper's name.
	One of the two.
	It's Chanley.
	Chanley Painter.
	And you just look at her and you go, oh my gosh, she's going to be making lots of money on Fox if they have a clue.
	She's a brunette though.
	Now, this is what they do on Court TV now is they're following the Weinstein case very closely and they buy the transcript immediately after the testimonies.
	They get them from the court recorders and then they reenact the Just audio.
	Oh, that's good.
	That's cool.
	This should be your podcast.
	I flipped a few things out of this.
	It's about two minutes.
	I clipped a few things out because it would have been too long because there's a lot of interruptions and they got out of the court.
	They got the judge in there bitching and moaning.
	But there's stuff in here that is truly disgusting.
	Describe what was happening to you and what your interaction with him was.
	Objection.
	Foundation, judge.
	Overruled.
	He would talk very dirty to me about...
	Objection.
	Foundation.
	Overruled.
	Fantasies and things and compare me to other actresses that he said were doing kinky...
	Objection.
	Kinky, dirty things with him.
	Judge, can we approach...
	Overruled.
	No.
	He always wanted to film me.
	Objection.
	Did you ever give him permission to do that?
	I never gave him permission.
	Question and answer stands.
	Next question.
	What became, what was the relationship?
	Describe the relationship for the jury.
	It would be basically him wanting to see me and just needing a fix like a drug addict.
	Objection!
	What's going on here?
	What would he say to you?
	First of all, holy crap!
	This should be a podcast.
	I don't know what Court TV is doing, but this is podcastable material right here.
	This is really good.
	We return.
	And just needing a fix like a drug addict.
	Objection!
	What's going on here?
	What would he say to you?
	What would he do with you?
	What would you say to him?
	What would you do with him?
	He would say, do you like my big, fat, Jewish...
	Objection!
	Objection!
	Judge, may we approach?
	Okay.
	If you would step down there for a moment.
	Judge, I'm asking that those answers be stricken and the prosecutor be directed to move on.
	Request denied.
	Next question.
	Ms.
	Mann, can you describe to the jury the defendant's physicality?
	The first time I saw him fully naked...
	Objection.
	Unresponsive.
	I felt...
	Overruled.
	I thought...
	Objection.
	Overruled.
	I thought he was deformed and intersex.
	Objection.
	He has an extreme scarring that I didn't know if maybe he was a burn victim, but it wouldn't make sense.
	Objection.
	Overruled.
	He does not have testicles, and it appears like he has a vagina.
	Objection.
	Overruled.
	And does the defendant also have a penis?
	Objection.
	Leading.
	He does have a penis.
	Overruled.
	Did you engage in non-forcible sexual situations with the defendant?
	I engaged in non-forcible oral sex with the defendant.
	Did you desire him sexually?
	Objection.
	She just testified she entered.
	Overruled.
	No.
	Why did you continue to have a relationship with him?
	There is a lot of layers to that question.
	Okay.
	Next question.
	While you were in this situation with the defendant, what were you feeling towards him?
	I saw him the way I saw my father.
	Objection.
	Overruled.
	Next question.
	In what way?
	My dad had a similar anger.
	Objection.
	Overruled.
	Move on.
	Did the defendant at times display anger to you?
	Objection.
	Foundation.
	Yes.
	Overruled.
	In what way would he...
	In what circumstances would he display anger towards you?
	If he heard the word no, it was like a trigger for him.
	Objection.
	Overruled.
	He...
	Objection.
	Overruled.
	He also...
	He also peed on me once.
	Objection.
	Foundation.
	Overruled.
	He would...
	It was...
	It was like being discarded after I served my purpose.
	Objection.
	Sustained.
	I think this is fantastic.
	I do have a follow-up on this, though, regarding the state of his sexual organs.
	By the way, because it's so disgusting, you only get a borderline, but you do get that.
	Because it really brings the quality of all Clip of the Days down to just, like, gutter level.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I knew that when I made the clip.
	I thought this was a questionable clip to even play on the show.
	But it's so good.
	Yeah, here's the part that may blow your mind.
	So I read through the transcript of the description of his sexual organs, which didn't really come out that well in this particular audio reenactment.
	But he has...
	It looks like...
	So she said it looked like he was intersex and like he had no testicles and like stuff was inverted.
	Isn't that kind of what she said?
	Yeah.
	This may be a typical case of a hemipenis, which is one of a pair of intromittent organs...
	Happy penises are usually held inverted within the body and are everted for reproduction via erectile tissue, much like that of a normal human penis.
	They come in a variety of shapes depending on species.
	In particular, intermittent organs of male squamates such as snakes, lizards, and worm lizards.
	Wow.
	I think Weinstein's a lizard.
	Well, that's a possibility.
	Mimi said that he probably has cryptochism, which is where people, I think, are undescended balls.
	I'm going with lizard.
	I'm going with reptile.
	Well, lizards probably are better, more for purposes of our show.
	It feels better to say.
	But he also, there's two other things that I didn't get in that clip because I didn't get the clip, and unfortunately, I couldn't find a clip of the analysis, but he also smells like poop.
	You really want to be an actor pretty bad.
	Trimethylaminuria, which is a particular thing that makes you smell like poop all the time.
	It's an actual dysfunction of your body.
	He looks like he smells like poop, John.
	Just look at the man.
	He smells like poop, and he also apparently is back, which is really disgusting.
	I don't even want to bring this up.
	Yeah, go, go, go.
	It's just covered with huge blackheads.
	Oh!
	I mean, really?
	Can we get any worse?
	I don't know how to...
	I gotta transition out.
	I gotta get up out of this.
	Let's get out.
	I'm gonna show myself my donors to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	And there's a reason why you don't hear this kind of stuff on the M5N. There's no way.
	Can you imagine the Dairy Council?
	I think they'd have a problem with this segment.
	I had a problem with it, personally.
	Well done, though.
	But, Court TV didn't have a problem.
	Let's thank a few people for show 12-13, starting with Eric Arjo from Stockholm, Sweden, 199.
	We're going to move him up to associate executive producer.
	Yes, we should.
	We should.
	Jason Petri, 144.
	He said he missed a 12x12 equals 144 donation last week.
	I don't remember that.
	Air Force John 12120, New England meetup came in with 116 bucks.
	They also sent us a note, which I have.
	New England meetup.
	Where are you?
	It's on here somewhere.
	There it is.
	It's that big note, so not a big problem.
	This is the various cast donations, and he put it into a mail order and sent it, which is the way to go.
	This is the first-time donation for several of the producers in attendance, so if they would be so kind to give a general de-douching, and those in need would be greatly appreciated if they know who they are.
	You've been de-douched.
	He says, it was a great meetup, amazing event, FEMA region, foam finger number one, baby, thank you for your courage and passion, keep pushing.
	And this came from Sir Ernesto Grande, KNA of the heavy-handed riff and basher of strings.
	Thank you, and thanks to all.
	Jamie Scott.
	$111.11 from Plano, Texas.
	Barron Latican, $100.
	Eduardo Calderon in Plano, Texas.
	Hey, Plano, have a meetup.
	$100.
	Bob Staley, $88.88.
	Sir Gott Nate in Sebastopol, California, $69.69.
	Sir Loud Pipes, $56.78 in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	David Nixon, $55.10.
	Sir Tom Derry in DeForest, Wisconsin.
	Comes in routinely.
	Anonymous...
	Oh, he came in at 5510.
	Anonymous Chicana, 5353.
	Thank you for the bi-weekly deconstruction.
	And she wants a dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	And Travel Karma coming up for you.
	At the end.
	Michael Barco in Salem, Oregon, $52.22.
	Eric Hochul in Mulrose, Deutschland, $52.00.
	Without the crazy characters.
	Andrew Blackburn in Mount Zion, Illinois, $50.33.
	Yancey Summer Hour.
	Summer Hour.
	$50.33.
	Brian Mosler.
	Or Mosier.
	Mosier.
	Mosier.
	He's a W5BRM. I know Brian.
	Brian's a NAM, a Noah Gendaham.
	Hey.
	73s.
	Hey.
	Scott of the Tail, Iowa Corn.
	Davenport, Iowa.
	In this case, it's the Tall, Iowa Corn.
	You've got an I&L problem today.
	Well, on this, it looks like I'm about five feet away from the monitor.
	Well, that might explain some of the issue.
	Well, I can't get much closer and have a mic in front of me.
	Jeremy Cartwright, Rockford, Illinois.
	The following people are $50 donors.
	Jeremy Cartwright, Bradley Ledden, Michael Janoski in Lindora, Pennsylvania, Eric Wills in Eldersburg, Maryland.
	Ichi Kitagawa in San Francisco, Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina, and last but not least, Sir Brett Farrell in OKC. I want to thank all these folks for making 12, 13 even a possibility.
	Thank you all, and thank you to those under the $50 cutoff for reasons of keeping the show within the...
	Three-hour limit, more or less.
	It's highly appreciated.
	This is your podcast.
	That's why it's the best one in the universe, and you are making it roll forward.
	Thank you all so much.
	And please remember that we do have another show coming up on Thursday.
	To support us for that show, go to...
	Okay, we have a couple of...
	Let me see.
	Emergency F cancer karma requested by Sir Istvan...
	He said emergency F cancer karma.
	And then Michael Bernstein.
	I'm not sure if we made good on this.
	I was jitty when Adam had a new beat with his tiny home segments.
	Didn't we do this?
	I'm currently building a premium tiny home community.
	I thought we did this one.
	No, it's the one we missed.
	Ah, okay.
	I think it has to be read because he was a $200 donor.
	Yes, that's correct.
	Mutualwin.com.
	Mutualwin.com in North Carolina.
	It was fantastically the best podcast in the universe talking about a topic close to my heart.
	My father, Alan Bernstein, hit me in the mouth while we were exploring Zion National Park a few years ago, and I would like the $200 applied to his knighthood quest and the balance of.007, representing the one English spy, Not tainted by the Steele dossier for my own journey, I will be meeting mutual wind suppliers in Oslo, Norway, February 8th, and Stockholm, Sweden, February 14th, and have created meetups for both days!
	I will be wearing my No Agenda Space Force t-shirt, looking extremely American for both events.
	I would love to connect with any of our Scandinavian listeners before my trip for some sightseeing recommendations.
	His email is michael, M-I-C-K-A-E-L, at mutualwin.com, M-U-T-U-A-L-W-I-N.com.
	He wants to go scream karma for his tiny home project, and we encourage that.
	They're pretty tiny homes.
	They're modern designs.
	They're not just the...
	Yeah, they're not the kind of crap they're building in Berkeley.
	Yeah.
	It looks like, you know, it looks like an outhouse with a window.
	So let me do the karma for them, including the emergency F cancer karma.
	And I'm going to throw in a jobs karma because everybody can use some of that.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got...
	Karma.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I don't know what you're doing.
	2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2!
	It is the birthday list for February 2, 2020, Rambo.
	Randall Scheibel turns 26 on the 4th.
	That's, what is that, Tuesday?
	Anonymous, 33 today.
	The magic number couldn't get any better than that.
	Sir Woody of the Falls turns 73 today.
	And Ono Priester says happy birthday to his daughter, who is celebrating her 22nd birthday on the second day of the second month.
	Happy birthday to everybody here at Best podcast in the universe!
	And yes, we do.
	In our period system where you move up a level every single time you reach the $1,000 or more in aggregate, Sir Charles of the Tiki Bars is now a And we congratulate him with his title and his upped peerage representation.
	You can find that at itm.im slash peerage for the map.
	I think it's reasonably up to date.
	And congratulations, Sir Charles.
	Then we do have the birthday boy, at least on Tuesday, Randall Scheibel.
	He will be knighted today.
	So if you can have your blade at the ready, sir.
	Here you go.
	Thank you very much.
	Randall Scheibel, step on up here.
	You didn't have anything special for the roundtable, but I have the regular requisite items.
	I'm sure they'll be to your liking.
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	Therefore, you join the Knights and Dames of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	It's a very exclusive cup.
	And I pronounce the KV... Sir Scheibel, a night of the Noah Jenner roundtable for you.
	We've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay.
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	Mutton and mead, that's always here at the table, so you can take that.
	You can take all of those things with you.
	But make sure you stop off at noagendanation.com slash rings.
	Eric the Shill would love to take your information so we can get your ring, your sealing wax, and your certificate out as soon as possible.
	And thank you again for supporting your best podcast in the universe.
	No Agenda Mead Up!
	Snack up on it!
	It's like a party, everybody!
	That's right!
	We have a couple of meet-up reports.
	We had a very busy meet-up week.
	If you don't know what this is about, this is where people go hang out.
	No triggering.
	Everybody has the same no-agenda nation thinking.
	No-agenda thinking in general.
	And really, your background does not matter.
	Your age does not matter.
	People get along just fine.
	We start with the no-agenda...
	Serena, Ontario meetup in Scandinavia.
	This is producer Adam Knauss at the Sarnia meetup at the Refined Fool.
	Thank you for making podcasting great again.
	This is Trevor Colette and I'm a douchebag.
	This is Sir Pat.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Herman Knauss, I really enjoy your program.
	And I'm Oma Nas and I'm the Oma of most of the people around this table.
	Hi, it's Ann Naus.
	Thanks for doing what you do, guys.
	This is soon to be Dame Juliet, and I am so excited to be at the No Agenda Meetup.
	This is Samuel Naus, and I need to listen more.
	This is the not-yet-indicted David Naus.
	This is Eric Knauss in the morning.
	Sounds like they had the whole family for the meetup.
	The whole extended family.
	I love that.
	The family that...
	Was there anybody besides the Knausses there?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Who cares?
	They're big enough for a meetup.
	It's fantastic.
	I like that so much.
	The No Agenda inaugural meetup in Missoula, Montana.
	In the morning from Montana, we are at the inaugural 406 meetup here at Conflux Brewing Club, where it's a party!
	In the morning!
	Sounds like someone had some George Martin production skills there with left and right channel.
	Then, I think this is the last meetup report we have.
	This is the Charleston, North Carolina meetup.
	In the morning from the Charleston, South Carolina meetup.
	We are at Moe's Crosstown, best partner in Charleston.
	I am the baronetist Jennifer of the possible exit strategy.
	And my husband did not like the night name that I suggested for him, but he's going to introduce himself now.
	In the morning, which I would think is called in the money because I trade stocks and options, but thanks to my beautiful wife, Barron Nettis, Jennifer, this is Sir Buck of 2112.
	Daniel here.
	I donate $5 a month, and that better be good enough.
	What's up?
	This is Mike B., now in Charleston, not Odessa, enjoying life out in the complex in the woods.
	This is Katie.
	I'd like to say hi to my brother Tim, who hit me in the mouth over ten years ago.
	Hey, this is Jason.
	I'd like to give credit to the person who hit me in the mouth, but I don't know who it was.
	It was somebody on a Ron Paul video comment section.
	Thank you guys.
	Hey Adam and John, this is Greg.
	Thank you for your courage.
	And boom shakalaka!
	Hey guys, this is the real Greg.
	Greg B. Thank you.
	And I'd like to thank the left turn that I took on 4chan that brought me to...
	No agenda.
	Cheers.
	Hey, this is Dave Bath.
	Thank you for your courage.
	This is Sir Daniel.
	It's time for me to go home.
	Everyone's febrile in the morning.
	Have a good one.
	Yeah, apparently Sir Daniel's human resources were not having any of it.
	They did not like it had to go.
	And it was, of course, Charleston, South Carolina.
	And that was organized by Baronet's Dame Jennifer.
	Of the possible exit strategy.
	That is her baronetta's name.
	Also the art director and sole employee of the animated No Agenda Studios.
	Yeah.
	That's very good.
	Thank you very much.
	Here's what's coming up.
	Just a brief overview.
	She sounds like she can do good voiceovers.
	I think she can do a lot of things.
	She totally gets media.
	She knows what she's doing.
	And just appreciate the, really appreciate the animated No Agenda.
	It's so good.
	Thursday, we have a meet-up in Fairfield, Connecticut.
	This will be organized by Dame Jamie.
	Also, the Ramallah stop, this is at 6.30 in the Palestinian territories.
	They'll be at Barley's in Ramallah, Israel.
	Jesse Coy Nelson is our man who is traveling around the Middle East right now.
	And as I was pointed out to me, Israelis are not allowed to attend this.
	They are not allowed in Ramallah.
	Well, that's why he has to do one over in Jeddah.
	He's doing the next one in Jeddah, which will be...
	Or Jaffa.
	Jaffa, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, Jaffa.
	That'll be on the 9th.
	Jeddah.
	Jeddah's in Saudi Arabia.
	Right.
	Jaffa, it's the Shaffa Bar in Jaffa, and that will be next Sunday.
	This Friday, though, Loose Top of the South New Zealand Piss-Up.
	That'll be at the Spring and Fern Tahunawi, your mate Tom, organizing.
	Toronto this Friday, no agenda six-week cycle.
	Bishop organizing for you also the Southern Shilinoisean meetup.
	I keep getting that wrong.
	Sir Raleigh Hawkins, Joseph Hawkins organizing.
	Seattle no agenda meetup at the Lookout Bar and Grill on Friday.
	And then Saturday, Oslo, Norway.
	That is Bernstein, we just heard.
	Sir Bernstein will be organizing that.
	It'd be good if we can get some people to hang out there.
	And as just mentioned, the Jaffa stop of the No Agenda Toon Man Tour on Sunday the 9th.
	Go to noagendameetups.com to find out more.
	There's always a meetup happening somewhere, someplace on the 21st.
	The Keeper and I will be in Delray Beach, Florida.
	And if you don't find one, start one yourself.
	Go to noagendameetups.com.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me, triggered or held the blame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	It's like a party.
	And they're getting pretty successful.
	Sounds like it.
	Do you have anything for...
	I'm dying to do a quickie OTG segment, but I've been talking a lot, so I'd be happy to hear you speak about something before we do that.
	Well, I got some old clips that were kind of interesting, I thought.
	This was a...
	Oh, I have another ISO suggestion.
	This one is Nailed It.
	Mmm, nailed it.
	Nailed it.
	Let me compare to the Bloomberg.
	I'm Mike Bloomberg and I approve this message.
	No, I think Mike Bloomberg approving our message is better.
	I like it.
	Let's go to 2008.
	And I thought this was interesting.
	They don't do this as much anymore.
	This was Democracy Now!
	when Amy was a little more on the ball.
	And this was a report on the 2008 presidential candidates.
	This is the time it was wide open for both parties.
	And what they were doing here was analyzing the advisors, and it's the same people.
	In fact, it's kind of disgustingly so.
	The same people that were advising these candidates back in 2008 as they were getting today, you know, 12 years later.
	And the rundown is quite fascinating to me.
	Thousands of reporters have also descended on Iowa this week, covering everything from Mike Huckabee's haircut to John Edwards' rally with singer John Mellencamp.
	But little attention has been paid to perhaps one of the most important aspects of the candidates, their advisors.
	The men and women who likely form the backbone of the candidates' future cabinet of elected president.
	Many of the names will be familiar.
	Advisors to Hillary Rodham Clinton include many former top officials in President Clinton's administration, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, former National Security Advisor Samuel Berger, former U.N. Ambassador Richard Holbrook.
	Senator Barack Obama's list includes President Carter's National Security Advisors, a big new Brzezinski, former counterterrorism czar Richard Clark, former Middle East negotiator Dennis Ross.
	Rudolph Giuliani's advisors include Norman Podhara, one of the fathers of the neoconservative movement.
	John McCain's list of official and formal policy advisors include former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
	General Colin Powell, William Crystal of the Weekly Standard, and former CIA Director James Woolsey.
	One of Mitt Romney's top advisors is Kofor Black, the former CIA official who now serves as vice chair of Blackwater Worldwide.
	Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter Elizabeth is advising Fred Thompson.
	As for Mike Huckabee, it's not clear.
	In December, Huckabee listed former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton as someone with whom he either has, quote, spoken or will continue to speak, but Bolton then revealed the two had never spoken.
	Huckabee also named Richard Allen, but the former National Security Advisor also admitted he'd never spoken to Huckabee.
	Now, the name that came up in there was Kofor Black, a CIA guy who's kind of in that Hayden Rodriguez Cult of torturers.
	And it's interesting because he's on the board of Burisma.
	Oh, yes, the Romney advisor, of course.
	And somebody pointed out, well, here's something that's interesting.
	You know, Romney, this is nonsense.
	This guy, I've seen interviews of him, and you don't see him.
	He's a very low-profile guy.
	He does come on shows, so he's not completely out of touch.
	But he's not the kind of guy that I mean, it probably did Romney a favor to even be on his advisors.
	There's no connection.
	The Romney connection to Burisma is not true to this guy.
	He's weak.
	He's weak.
	Yeah, very weak.
	Hey, you know what I'm surprised by?
	That neither of us, unless I'm missing it, Have any clip about Brexit?
	I mean, I watched it.
	I watched the final hour countdown.
	I have a clip.
	They projected the countdown on the White Cliffs of Dover, which looked pretty crappy, and then also on 10 Downing Street.
	They couldn't ring the bells.
	They wanted to ring the bells.
	Yeah, Big Ben is under construction, so they couldn't do that.
	I don't understand why they didn't put some high-powered speakers up there.
	Well, they had the bell ringing, and then they had Big Ben superimposed on 10 Downing Street, so it kind of looked like Big Ben was ringing.
	And Big Ben, one of the faces was exposed.
	But it was really, to me, it was very anticlimactic because all people were talking about, and I watched the final hour on, I think, Sky through Pluto TV.
	It's all about, well, what's going to happen tomorrow?
	And everyone's like, nothing exactly the same.
	Nothing changes.
	Now the clock starts 11 months to figure out how to actually Brexit.
	So what happened here is because everyone's getting so fed up with it, said, okay, we'll just sign the paper that we're going to do it.
	But here's this little addendum that says, all that bitching and moaning we've been doing for three and a half years, that's just going to continue for the next ten months, and by December 23rd of 2020, they have to have the agreement in place for immigration, for trade, for everything, pretty much.
	Which means they really haven't left.
	No!
	And they're still paying the fee.
	In fact, it's worse.
	They still have to pay their dues.
	They still have to run under European Union rule and law.
	Except now they don't have anyone representing them.
	Well, their representation was a fraud anyway.
	Still, it's pretty funny.
	I think it just got worse for them.
	I don't see how it got better.
	Well, I don't see how it changed.
	I don't think it changed one way or the other.
	Yeah, the change is they had no representation.
	There was a lot of people celebrating.
	I mean, if you went to the soccer stadiums where people got to see a big image of a flag being taken out of the EU's councils, meet with the hallways, and they all jumped up for joy.
	But the media's not going to show any of that stuff because as far as they're concerned, this is a bad idea.
	Now, I did get one clip that – which is this guy kind of runs a news site, online news site.
	But it's very interesting.
	This is Brendan O'Neill.
	He was also interviewed by the Sun interviewer.
	And he gave a little history of Brexit that reminds us what the real reason that this even happened in the first place.
	And something that is kind of – seems to be lost in the shuffle is that the Brits really lost their sovereignty in this deal and they just regained it.
	Now they're kind of flat-footed.
	I'm reminded of the time that you were living there when you first started doing the show.
	You were talking about how depressing everything was because everyone was a drunk.
	I think a lot of this was all planned because once you lose your sovereignty and you have everybody else telling you what to do, I think it causes these sorts of problems with the society.
	Do you know what I find?
	Absolutely.
	I'm sorry.
	You know what I find absolutely fascinating about that vote, and I think you hit on the point there, is it was the first time we were ever consulted on this since 1975.
	Yes.
	And all the way back in 1975, voters probably didn't think that the EU would adapt to what it is today.
	Can you talk about the kind of lie, as some people would put it, that they were sold in 1975, and how the EU continued to adapt, continued to centralise power, more and more away from those ordinary voters, and And how the British people were never consulted.
	Not even once.
	Not even one treaty had a referendum in Britain.
	That's right.
	Absolutely right.
	You know, the EEC was understood to be an economic relationship.
	We were told that it would be beneficial to the UK if we had this economic relationship with this block of countries, a fairly small block of countries back then in Europe.
	And it was understood by most people who then eventually voted in the referendum that came in 75.
	It was understood that it was a fairly narrow relationship.
	It was going to be economically based.
	It wouldn't have a grave impact on Britain as a sovereign nation.
	That's the lie we were told.
	And people accepted that.
	And, you know, for good reason.
	I don't think people were hoodwinked or brainwashed.
	People weighed things up and said, OK, if it's just going to be about economic partnership, if it's just going to be about trading and so on and economic standards, we can live with that.
	Let's give it a whirl.
	Of course, what happens then through the 80s and right through to the early 90s and then onwards from then...
	It becomes the European Union.
	It becomes a much more political body.
	It becomes a body that has a very significant say over the laws that we live by, over the ability of us to control our borders, over the free movement of people, the free movement of goods, the free movement of services across the continent or across the European Union.
	So it becomes much more powerful, it becomes much more political, it becomes much clearer that this is a body that significantly has a detrimental impact on our sovereign rights.
	It's going to be very interesting to see how this goes.
	I mean, once again, Nexit has been rekindled, Frexit is on deck.
	It's just talk, of course, just talk.
	But now we have to see how it actually works.
	And unfortunately, it's just going to be at least another year until we figure out what's really going to happen.
	And in the meantime, I think it's going to be pretty bad for the UK. I think.
	It's just my feeling.
	I can't back it up.
	It seems like you're kind of like a lame duck position.
	You can't do anything.
	And unfortunately, what everyone wanted was not to hear about Brexit anymore.
	Now they're going to hear about it.
	Continuously.
	It's not gonna stop.
	We'll see.
	That's true.
	OTG going OTG.
	I'm an OTG kind of guy.
	OTG kind of guy off the grid.
	OTG going OTG. Not really without power.
	OTG kind of guy.
	Step away from the tracking.
	Step away from commercialism that is pretty much going to ruin your life.
	And a good example was a week ago.
	This is so great.
	One of our producers gave us a login to Google Classroom.
	And apparently, a lot of schools have adopted this.
	For a long time, Apple was putting Macs into schools, and then the Chromebook came out, and Google just carpet-bombed K1 through 12.
	But, of course, if you want the Chromebooks, then you have to use Google Classroom to manage and track your students.
	Did you ever log into that, John?
	No, I didn't.
	It's not so great because of course there's no students in our classroom, but the system speaks for itself.
	And Google Docs, including Google Classroom, went down last week for several hours and people didn't know what to do.
	I mean, the classes had to stop.
	They had to stop teaching.
	The class had to stop because they couldn't do anything.
	They could not, you know, log in, look at assignments, even look at the curriculum, I guess.
	And people were trying to do term papers.
	Here's a hint for you.
	Stop that.
	Just use Notepad for all I care.
	Anything.
	You rely on this.
	You're going to get burned.
	And this is just once.
	It's going to happen more and more and more.
	Which brings us to a note from Mike, producer Mike, which is a similar situation, which is another thing that we warn against.
	Cash emergency in most of BC happening currently, as we know there's a huge flood going on.
	There's a fiber cut.
	Bell Canada fiber optic line has been severed due to a washout of the rail line near Spasm, of all places.
	We have people there.
	We have Spasmers.
	Might be global warming, or it could be winter weather in Canada.
	How about Russia?
	Russia.
	Putin.
	Putin.
	Fiber optic line parallels rail lines in most of Canada.
	Pandemonium ensues as people have no money and no access to cash.
	Happily and no agenda producer is always prepared.
	Thanks, boys.
	See?
	I love hearing that.
	I love that.
	That's right.
	You can't get to your ATM. The ATMs don't work.
	That's right.
	You got no cash.
	It becomes a little difficult.
	At a certain point, you're going to be hungry.
	Amazon engineering.
	Credit card machines don't work.
	This story came out.
	I'm desperate to talk about this one, although it's only part of the story about the Ring doorbell.
	Amazon engineer calling for Ring to be shut down immediately, he says, citing privacy concerns.
	The engineer published a post on Medium saying, quote, the privacy issues are not fixable with regulation, and there is no balance that can be struck.
	Ring should be shut down immediately.
	Now, by the way, I found this report interesting.
	That's why I pulled this one from the original Money Honey, Maria Bartiromo.
	This is on Fox Business News.
	This was not a post on Medium.
	It was a comment on a whole different post.
	It was a very short, just like one paragraph, saying exactly what she recited.
	But she kind of makes it out to sound like it's a...
	Now, it should be.
	Because it is a big deal.
	But it was interesting that she pulled this out.
	I don't know if that was a stock manipulation thing or kind of hyping it up a little bit for the market who loves to hear news about Amazon.
	But factually, it was not a post on Amazon, on a medium.
	It was an anonymous comment.
	And not brought back.
	This is, of course, the company that somebody rings your doorbell and you can deal with it from your phone, but it has opened the can of worms on privacy.
	Where is this video going?
	Are they giving the ring video to everybody who shows up at your door to local police and others?
	I mean, there's a few privacy issues here and there's a lot of complicated issues here.
	I mean, one of the issues, of course, we've seen people taking hackers getting access to people's accounts.
	And part of that is the person themselves has to be responsible.
	Use a difficult password.
	Don't make it easy to guess.
	We have to know, do they have deals with law enforcement?
	What are they going to do if law enforcement requests that?
	And we've seen those issues already with phones, so there's some precedent for what they might do.
	And if somebody shows up at your door and that person is questionable from the local police's standpoint, then how does that implicate you?
	It just opens the door to all these questions about who shows up at your doorstep.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Shut up.
	What is more egregious about the Ring doorbell system, as reported, and of course this didn't get any traction because of impeachment and Orange Man bad, everything.
	The Electronic Frontier Foundation, who get a lot of money from Google to stay alive, but I do like what they do in general.
	They did an investigation of the app that comes with the Ring doorbell, which you manage your entire system.
	And guess what?
	It's packed with, I'm reading from their report, packed with third-party trackers sending out a plethora of customers' personally identifiable information.
	Four main analytics and marketing companies were discovered to be receiving information, such as names, private IP addresses, mobile network carriers, persistent identifiers, sensor data on the devices.
	And by the way, you're a paying customer, and they're still selling your ass to other third-party marketers.
	And as the EFF correctly points out, the danger in sending even small bits of information is that analytics and tracking companies are able to combine these bits together to form a unique picture of the user's device and their life.
	Turn that stuff off.
	And it's despicable that Amazon, you pay for this stuff.
	It's just like Skype.
	If I look at Skype right now, I pay for Skype.
	I get an ad at the bottom of Skype now.
	And I pay for the service.
	Ugh.
	And the problem is there's so many, a lot of these applications, like we were listening to the Amazon show-and-tell, the Alexa show-and-tell where it can identify the product.
	These are fantastic developments.
	I wish I could use them.
	I love having the ability to use voice to have things turn on and off.
	It's handy for many things.
	But because of the business model, you've rendered it useless for people who have a brain.
	It's too bad.
	Because a lot of this stuff is really cool technology and I like it.
	But no, you cannot use it because of this.
	And this is...
	I mean, if people actually knew this, what Amazon is doing, they'd probably think twice.
	And you're putting these things in your kid's bedroom.
	Anyway, live the OTG lifestyle, everybody.
	Give your kid a, you know...
	A megaphone or something if you need some.
	OG OTG. It's a very OG OTG, exactly.
	That's all I got for that, for this segment for now.
	Okay.
	Main things.
	Just need to get those out, otherwise they pass by and no one talks about it.
	Oh yeah, no, actually I do have an unhoused clip.
	Very proud of what's going on in Austin.
	You'll recall that...
	The governor of Texas, Abbott, got into a Twitter war, a tweet up with the mayor of Austin, what's his name again?
	Anyway, Adler, about the unhoused, because I'm not going to say they're all poor homeless people, they're grifters, many of them, aggressive window washer squeegee dudes.
	It's not just people who don't have a house or a home.
	In fact, Abbott repurposed a lot not far from we are in Southeast Austin.
	Now I'm going to go again and try and find it.
	I couldn't find it the first time.
	Which would be for the unhoused to go.
	And something magical has happened.
	They've started to build a little community.
	This once mostly empty lot in East Austin has become home to more than 100 people without another place to go.
	We give everybody a chance.
	We don't judge you by your past history or anything like that.
	Once referred to as Camp Abbott, because the governor opened the state-owned land to the homeless population, people here are now calling it something else.
	It's called Camp Rat, responsible adult transition town for the homeless run by the homeless.
	Like every town, Camp Rat now has its own list of leaders.
	Well, we have donation and volunteer recruiters.
	We have maintenance and general labor recruiters.
	We have the web designer.
	We have the media outreach.
	We have security.
	And then we have a treasure slash donation organization.
	Corey Roberts, the secretary, schedules town meetings each week.
	The seven-person committee, nominated by those at the camp, has held two of those so far.
	It's important because we actually have a voice, we actually have a hand that we are actually putting forth to actually make our lives a little bit better.
	Changing the perception of the homeless community is important to those living at the camp.
	Because we wanted to show people that we're not just criminals, drug addicts, slobs, bums off the street, that we're actually just anybody else in this community just without a house.
	Right now, the committee is focused on finding food donations so they don't always have to rely on provided MREs.
	Providing hot showers instead of the makeshift stalls and water hose they're currently using.
	Organizing events to help out others in the greater Austin community.
	And maybe, most importantly, giving newcomers a point of contact so they don't feel alone.
	Don't be afraid to come out here if you have nowhere to live.
	You want the laws to leave you alone for being under a bridge.
	Come out here.
	It's safe.
	There's not really any violence out here.
	We're all a big family.
	A town.
	I really like this development.
	I'm going to go over there.
	I'm going to bring food.
	This shows that it can work when you allow people to be a part of a community and build a community, give them some basic blocks to do that, which is literally all they got.
	And there is some protection.
	I think they do have police, you know, making sure that things don't get out of hand.
	But they're creating their own community.
	And, you know, I think this is great.
	This is how favelas got started in Brazil.
	I'm not saying we won't have that.
	But at least it's a community and they're trying to do something else other than, you know, tens of millions of dollars being spent on bull crap that does nothing.
	I was excited.
	Well, I should just give the tens of millions of dollars in direct payments to these guys, and that would probably help.
	Possibly, but that is not...
	Give everybody in that group $5,000 each.
	That's not how it works.
	Reparations, he said.
	Reparations for being homeless.
	Alright, sorry affiliates, if you were waiting, we're way over, but time flies when you're having fun and talking about Harvey's Privates.
	Coming up next on NoAgendaStream.com, random thoughts about the Bezos hack?
	Stay tuned for that, NoAgendaStream.com.
	And I have a lot of Kung Flu mixes.
	End of show.
	We need to thank Ned Jeffrey, Johnny Benson, and Dustin Jones.
	And we return on Thursday with another thrilling edition of the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe.
	Until then, everybody, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. In the morning, I am Adam Curry.
	Bye!
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where there seems to be a windstorm kicking up, the San Francisco Bay is totally brown and is blowing everything around, and the seagulls are flying over the house.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
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	Remember, Jeffrey FC didn't kill himself.
	Adios, mofos and such.
	I got Wuhan flu.
	Thank you.
	From the fish market, I was visiting, and now I'm stuck here.
	I feel like I'm running out of heart, and I'm coming up alone.
	I'm having trouble with breathing, and now I think my Don't trust China.
	China is asshole.
	China.
	China is here.
	People are dying.
	I'm scared at all.
	China is not the issue here.
	China.
	Wuhan.
	Wuhan.
	Somebody from China.
	Wuhan outbreak caused by animal virus.
	Wuhan.
	This is the city now in lockdown.
	China.
	Wuhan.
	Wuhan.
	China all the time.
	Vampire bat.
	Wuhan.
	Wuhan.
	Taste like chicken.
	What does that mean?
	China is here?
	I don't even know what the hell that...
	Just buy those face masks off the shelf.
	I bought 10 boxes of them for myself.
	Didn't help me much and now I'm totally screwed.
	Oh yeah, I got the Wuhan blues.
	I got myself a case of Wuhan blues.
	Didn't know I had it when I gave it to you.

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