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	He's got something wrong with him.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, January 30th, 2020.
	This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media Assassination Episode 1212.
	This is No Agenda.
	Counting our angel numbers and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone, Star State.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're all taking a good look at Lady Gaga's books, I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Lady Gaga's books?
	She went broke.
	Bankrupt.
	Oh, I have not heard of this yet.
	Well...
	Oh, you mean her financial books?
	I didn't know this.
	This is pop entertainment news I was not made aware of.
	That could be bullcrap.
	Where did you get it from?
	I got it from a great source, Twitter.
	Oh, that place!
	Yeah, okay.
	It was based on something.
	Makes total sense.
	But it's Sounds kind of right.
	I mean, you know, these musicians, they sign off these deals and they end up, I don't know, footing the bill for too much stuff.
	I think you got ripped off by somebody.
	In the entertainment business, you got ripped off.
	That really sucks, man.
	I feel bad for her.
	I mean, especially with the kind of success she had.
	And then gone?
	Still has.
	Hey, KJ says, hey.
	Hey, KJ, you still around?
	Yes, Sir Chris.
	Sir Chris Jacob, a baron of the No Agenda show.
	He's in Austin.
	He's here for some conference.
	Of course, he's working for a new company.
	You know him.
	He's got his brown shoes on, creating markets that don't exist.
	Yeah, he came by.
	We had a nice chat.
	It was good to catch up.
	He was wearing his night ring.
	Coming over to the house, wearing the night ring to the house.
	It was appreciated.
	And I made no agenda chicken for him.
	Oh, you did now.
	That's nice.
	Yeah, I'd like to remind everybody that this is one of the better recipes.
	No agenda chicken.
	You can actually just go to your favorite search engine and type in no agenda chicken.
	It'll pop up as the first result.
	It's delish!
	It's totally delish.
	It's easy.
	It's so easy to make.
	People are like, wow, this is great.
	It's the whole meal.
	It's like the chicken, the vegetables, the potatoes.
	You're done.
	Everything's in there.
	Everything you need is good to go.
	It's fantastic.
	It really is.
	Anyway, it was nice.
	Nice that he was over.
	Nice to see him.
	I have an announcement.
	An exciting announcement for the No Agenda shop.
	I will be appearing on Joe Rogan.
	Ah, good.
	Finally.
	Yeah, in the next...
	So, we're just picking a date.
	It has to be either Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday.
	That's when he tapes, and it has to be February or March.
	So, we're coordinating, because we have some travel here as well.
	So, yeah.
	So, I'll go out to L.A. and plug the hell out of the show.
	Well, let's hope so.
	And try and contain my Tourette's for two hours.
	That's going to be interesting.
	I don't know.
	I don't think I... Hey, Jones, let me know.
	Did I got a Tourette's thing?
	So just get over it.
	I'm going to tick all the way through.
	Tick-tock, tick-tock.
	That would be more entertaining, actually.
	Although you won't do it.
	No, no.
	If I know it...
	No, I won't.
	I'm going to try not to.
	Try not to.
	No, you won't.
	I mean, you would...
	Even if you'd say, okay, I've had it with this trying to hold back.
	I'm going to just tick away.
	Even though your ticks are minor, it's compared to some people I know.
	I'm going to just tick away.
	Let's assume you're going to make that choice.
	Yeah.
	You won't do it.
	You just won't do it.
	You'll still freeze up and not tick.
	When you do tick, it'll annoy you because it'll be out of the blue.
	Right, right, right.
	I'm guessing the left eye Kind of a half-closed, like you're winking, kind of.
	And then your head will shake a little bit.
	You know, it travels around different parts of the body and different ticks at different times.
	I'm always like, I don't mind having the tick.
	I'm just having my leg.
	You know, just put it in my toe or something and get rid of it so it's not in the eye, you know, like the crazy eye blinking.
	From underneath.
	What are you doing under there?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Okay, well, there's a lot to look at today.
	You know, when it rains, it pours.
	Got all kinds of stuff to talk about.
	Yeah, you know, there's a couple of things I wanted to...
	First of all, I have very little on the impeachment.
	I do have a couple of items.
	I have some decent stuff.
	Well, good, because one of the...
	I was listening to the right-wing talkers, and Michael Savage had something to say, just because he was kind of sick of this.
	He'd rather talk about himself.
	And he made this comment and it kind of stuck with me, which is why is everybody...
	This is really something that's peculiar to the Senate.
	The Senate has a job to do and they're going to do it no matter what.
	What is the point of the public fretting about this one way or the other?
	And making commentary all over the place as though we have anything to do with it.
	We're not there.
	I don't quite understand the point.
	Well, the point is Maybe this is overblown.
	This whole thing is just like, who cares?
	I think it's got nothing to do with us.
	Well, hold on a second.
	I'm going to send a question to the desk to see what's going on with that.
	The most dead air in a television show I've ever seen in my life...
	What, as Roberts reads the questions?
	Yeah, every single senator says, uh, I'm sending my question to the desk.
	I mean, can you...
	I mean, I... Okay, this is the problem.
	No cell phone.
	Just text the guy the question.
	Then the person's got to get it from the senator, walk it over to the clerk.
	Hey, let's face it.
	If everyone had their cell phones, they'd be doing something else.
	No kidding.
	No kidding at all.
	And I'd be surprised they're even there.
	Well, what I enjoyed...
	Do you have to be there?
	Is there some law that says, oh, I've got a stomachache.
	Can I stay home and watch the...
	Why don't you watch the That's a good question.
	I personally think that either you let the senators who are running for president right now, you let them go, or they should really recuse themselves, is my opinion.
	Why haven't they recused themselves?
	Well, because they're not going to.
	There's no intent whatsoever.
	No one's talking about it but us.
	But if the tables were turned, we would certainly hear, well, these people are running for president.
	You can't...
	I mean, that's actually corrupting an election.
	Is you going to decide whether this guy stays or goes?
	Questions you may ask, things you may bring up.
	Hello, book deal Bolton.
	That could corrupt the 2020 election, so they should recuse themselves, but it's not going to happen.
	It doesn't matter.
	I think they should recuse themselves, but while we're talking about this sort of thing, let's play a couple of medleys.
	I have one medley of the Clinton impeachment and the media, and you can contrast that.
	Well, actually, I've got three medleys.
	I have the newest medley of the anti-Trump bromides.
	Maybe we should start with that.
	It's kind of entertaining.
	What's it called?
	This is the media and some politicians moaning and groaning about Trump.
	It's called Newest Medley of Anti-Trump Bromides.
	The dishonorable fact of the President's betrayal of his oath of office.
	The President has been exposed, violating his oath of office.
	The President of the United States has betrayed his oath of office.
	Violations of his oath to the Constitution.
	Unprecedented breach of the oath of office.
	Betrayals of his oath of office.
	The President has admitted enough.
	We have got enough information at this point.
	He's already confirmed.
	What he's done in broad daylight.
	We've basically got a confession.
	He's already confessed to this crime.
	The president has already admitted.
	The president admits he did it.
	The White House and the State Department continue to orchestrate this massive cover-up.
	We are watching a cover-up by the president of the United States.
	They've been in the business of trying to cover up.
	Implicated in a cover-up.
	There's a cover-up.
	The cover-up, the attempted cover-up.
	To interfere with the Congress's ability to call before it relevant witnesses will be considered as evidence of obstruction.
	Trump's strategy, it's pretty clear.
	Obstruct, deflect, confuse.
	Obstructing justice.
	Refusing to comply with the Congressional inquiry.
	It is obstruction of justice.
	It's bribery.
	A lot of the committees have documented obstruction of justice.
	All of this obstruction from the White House and from the President specifically He's using the abuse of power in every element of the presidency.
	The heart of the abuse of power.
	This gross abuse of power.
	You could say it was an abuse of power.
	There has been an abuse of power.
	Abuse of power.
	And that is an obviously impeachable abuse of power.
	Definition of the word bromide.
	Uh...
	Well, I looked it up because I know, and it means something a little different than I thought.
	It means a trite and unoriginal idea or remark typically intended to soothe or placate.
	That's questionable.
	Well, I don't know whether it's placating, but it's definitely soothing the left.
	Let's go back to 1998.
	With a medley of the same media, only this is about the Clinton impeachment.
	I rise to oppose these unfair motions which call for the removal of the President of the United States from office.
	The Independent Council knew that the President...
	This is the 1998 clip.
	This is literally the 1998...
	Yeah, I know, but I meant medley Clinton impeachment.
	The whole issue has been a sham.
	It shouldn't have gotten this far.
	The House acted improperly in passing it on to the Senate.
	Why is your party dragging this thing out?
	Why is this happening?
	Why go through all this business about witnesses?
	It's going to add months to this thing.
	We should stop this.
	This bogus inflated case.
	And get on with business of governance.
	Will these people just get down to business and leave this impeachment thing alone?
	It's going to be an enormous distraction to the White House and all kinds of issues that the Congress ought to be considering.
	There's a long line of the people's business that seems to have been put aside and apparently is going to be put aside for weeks if not months now.
	We begin tonight with the voice of the people.
	The visitor who got up and shouted, God Almighty, take the vote and get it over with.
	God Almighty, the man said, take the vote and get it over with.
	I remember that.
	You know who the hero of this whole thing is?
	It's the guy who stood up at the Senate gallery last week and said, good God, vote and get over with this, will you?
	This process is Stalin.
	Is there or is there not some concern of the public perception, in some quarters, not all of them Democratic, that this is in fact a kind of effort at a, quote, coup?
	That herd of managers from the House.
	I mean, frankly, all they were missing was white sheets.
	They were like night riders.
	One White House official told me today, in 20 years he said, people will remember three things about this.
	That the President was impeached in the House, that he was acquitted in the Senate, and that the whole thing was a partisan hit.
	No.
	People remember one thing.
	Clinton was impeached.
	People don't remember any of the other things.
	Well, now, just a quick 22 seconds.
	This is not a true medley, but this is the 98 clip.
	This is Pelosi and Nadler.
	I rise to oppose these unfair motions which call for the removal of the President of the United States from office.
	The Independent Council knew that the President was exonerated.
	The effect of impeachment is to overturn the popular will of the voters.
	There must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or an impeachment supported by one of our major political parties and opposed by the other.
	Right.
	All right.
	Yeah, we know.
	I mean, mainstream's doing this, too.
	Fox is playing this, and then they flip it around and CNN and MSNBC do it.
	Produced by Fox.
	I'm sorry?
	Produced by Fox.
	Yeah.
	Obvious.
	Obvious.
	But it's easy to do.
	But people do need to be reminded, especially Nadler.
	I have a couple of clips.
	I personally...
	I joke around that I'm a lawyer.
	I'm not.
	I'm a constitutional scholar, is what I am.
	Oh, you've changed it.
	Yes.
	As a constitutional scholar, I very much enjoy listening to Alan Dershowitz.
	And I've certainly, I think we both have been a fan of Dershowitz since the day we started this show.
	Yeah.
	And he's never bashful about his political leanings, or he's solidly left.
	No, he's a leftist.
	But he's consistent.
	But once he was consistent about Donald Trump, then he got disinvited from the parties, Martha's Vineyard, the Hamptons, he's persona non grata, everybody hates him.
	And I do have a personal issue with the Epstein stuff, although he seems pretty adamant that he only received a massage from an old ugly lady and he was wearing his undies.
	Sure, I'm sure.
	Whatever.
	That makes sense.
	But I enjoy his presentation style.
	I think he is the only person that presented, and I've watched most of this.
	The Republican or the President's side, it's called the Republican, it's easy.
	Um...
	It's much shorter.
	I thought the presentations...
	Because they're short, it's just like, okay, I got it.
	And Dershowitz had two pieces.
	They're a little long.
	The first one's three minutes.
	The second one's two minutes.
	But it really broke it down.
	And I found it incredible how he literally is going to...
	He argued...
	That on the first article, abuse of power, that that is a political act that should be used in all politics, has been used in all politics, and he has several examples to show why that is not an impeachable offense.
	We can stop it during this first clip if we want to, but I personally, I was like, wow, you argued that pretty convincingly.
	Because, you know, what exactly is abusive power?
	And I didn't get any kind of clip from the house managers other than, well, that's clearly an abusive power, but how impeachable is it is what is now being argued.
	So I guess we're kind of slipping and giving up on the, yeah, of course he used his power.
	Is it an abusive power?
	Yeah, but it's a political thing.
	It's okay.
	And then obstruction of Congress.
	We'll get to that in a minute.
	I will now give you a list of presidents who in our history have been accused of abusing their power.
	By the way, I did edit a couple of things in this clip.
	For instance, I didn't let him ramble on through all the presidents, because that was, of course, the show part.
	You know, all the presidents, all the things they should have done, but I picked out a couple that were pertinent to his argument.
	...would be subject to impeachment under the House manager's view of the Constitution.
	George Washington.
	Refusal to turn over documents related to the Jay Treaty.
	John Adams, signing and enforcing the alien and sedition laws.
	Thomas Jefferson, purchasing Louisiana without congressional authorization.
	Abraham Lincoln was accused of abusing his power for suspending the writ of habeas corpus during the Civil War.
	George H.W. Butch.
	The following was released today by the Clinton-Gore campaign.
	In the past weeks, Americans have begun to learn the extent to which George Bush and his administration have abused their governmental power for political purposes.
	That's how abusive power should be used.
	It's campaign rhetoric.
	It should be in statements issued by one political party against the other.
	That's the nature of the term.
	Abuse of power is a political weapon.
	I really, when I heard this, I was like, wow, that's interesting.
	I had not considered that it's just purely political, but he's arguing it.
	And it should be leveled against political opponents.
	Let the public decide.
	That's true.
	Barack Obama, the House Committee on the Judiciary, held an entire hearing entitled, Obama Administration's Abuse of Power.
	Now, by the standards applied to earlier presidents, nearly any controversial act by a chief executive could be denominated abuse of power.
	For example, past presidents have been accused of using their foreign policy Even their war powers to enhance their electoral prospects.
	Presidents often have mixed motives that include partisan, personal benefits, along with the national interest.
	This example is going to give of Lincoln.
	It's well known.
	It may have come up earlier on a different show, but it's a good one.
	Professor Josh Blackman, constitutional law professor, provided the following interesting example.
	Quote, In 1864, during the height of the Civil War, President Lincoln encouraged General William Sherman to allow soldiers in the field to return to Indiana to vote.
	What was Lincoln's primary motivation, the professor asks.
	He wanted to make sure that the government of Indiana remained in the hands of Republican loyalists who would continue the war until victory.
	Lincoln's request risked undercutting the military effort by depleting the ranks.
	Moreover, during this time, soldiers from the remaining states faced greater risks than did the returning Hoosiers.
	The professor continues, Lincoln had dueling motives.
	Privately, he sought to secure victory for his party.
	But the president, as a president and as a party leader and commander-in-chief, made a decision with life or death consequences.
	Can we impeach him posthumously?
	Because I think we should.
	That's an outrage.
	Professor Blackman drew the following relevant conclusion from this and other historical events.
	He said politicians routinely promote their understanding of the general welfare while in the back of their minds considering how these actions will affect their popularity.
	Often the two concepts overlap.
	What's good for the country is good for the officials' reelection.
	All politicians, he said, understand that dynamic.
	Like all human beings, presidents and other politicians persuade themselves that their actions, seen by their opponents as self-serving, are primarily in the national interest.
	In order to conclude that such mixed motive actions constituted abuse of power, opponents must psychoanalyze the president and attribute to him a singular self-serving motive.
	Such a subjective probing of motives cannot be the legal basis for a serious accusation of abuse of power that could result in the removal of an elected president.
	Yet, this is precisely what the managers are claiming.
	Here's what they say.
	Quote, whether the president's real reason, the ones actually in his mind, are at the time legitimate.
	What a standard!
	What was in the President's mind, actually in his mind, what was the real reason?
	Would you want your actions to be probed for what was the real reason why you acted?
	Even if a president were...
	And it clearly shows, in my mind, that the framers could not have intended this psychoanalytic approach to presidential motives to determine the distinction between what is impeachable and what is not.
	So I appreciated that argument, taking it right to the House manager's own words and say, oh, wait a minute, so you're basing it on what you think he was thinking?
	And that is something that happens a lot.
	In our political climate.
	Yeah, it's called mind reading.
	Yeah.
	So I like that.
	I appreciate how Dershowitz explains the law.
	I have no idea if that senator's eyes may have glazed over.
	I don't know if they care to even pay attention.
	I think that their mind's made up, so they're not paying attention.
	But I will say that I listened to this, too.
	And that little ditty about the soldiers going back to Indiana.
	That was pretty good.
	I didn't know that, and it was very funny.
	Yeah, I was like, wow.
	What a bitch.
	Time off, boys.
	Get back home.
	Take a vote.
	Get back here as soon as you can.
	No worries.
	We'll hold down the fort.
	It's all going to be good.
	Then a much shorter clip here where he explains why quid pro quo is not impeachable if purely political.
	And he uses more examples.
	Yesterday I had the privilege of attending the rolling out of a peace plan by the President of the United States regarding the Israel-Palestine conflict.
	And I offered you a hypothetical the other day.
	What if a Democratic president were to be elected and Congress were to authorize much money to either Israel or the Palestinians, and the Democratic president were to say to Israel, no, I'm going to withhold this money unless you stop all settlement growth.
	Or to the Palestinians, I will withhold the money Congress authorized to you unless you stop paying.
	Terrorists.
	And the president said, quid pro quo.
	If you don't do it, you don't get the money.
	If you do it, you get the money.
	There's no one in this chamber that would regard that as in any way unlawful.
	The only thing that would make a quid pro quo unlawful is if the quo were in some way illegal.
	Now, we talked about motive.
	There are three possible motives that a political figure can have.
	One, a motive in the public interest, and the Israel argument would be in the public interest.
	The second is in his own political interest, and the third, which hasn't been mentioned, would be in his own financial interest, his own pure financial interest, just putting money in the bank.
	I want to focus on the second one for just one moment.
	Every public official that I know believes that his election is in the public interest.
	And mostly you're right.
	Your election is in the public interest.
	And if a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment.
	That was about it.
	The house managers pretty much, I guess their strategy is bombshell every day.
	So we've got the Bolton bombshell book, the three B's.
	B3. Yesterday, Lev Parnas walking around.
	I mean, every day some new media thing comes out.
	And I didn't clip it, but there was something very interesting, which I thought was novel for the time we live in.
	And I don't remember who it was, Sekulow or one of the presidents, the defense lawyers, said, oh, the president just tweeted the following, which is a very interesting way to get the president's word into the proceeding itself by using tweets.
	I don't think that has ever happened before.
	If you'd like to have something that is newsworthy that you can mention without it being new documentary evidence, or, hey, I just got a note from the president, that sounds shitty.
	I thought that was an interesting move.
	And it was, obviously, some bombastic thing about how...
	Obviously.
	But, you know, just from a legal perspective, I find it interesting.
	I really do.
	It's fun to watch.
	I think there is something unresolved, which is a possible outcome that I can't find the answer to, and it was not addressed.
	The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is presiding over this, not the Vice President, who in a tie is the tiebreaker.
	And it's unclear if, let's say, Mitt Romney says, No, it's not unclear.
	It's not?
	If there's a tie, who has the deciding vote?
	Play the clip, impeachment, Nora and Nancy.
	Ooh, hold on a second.
	Good.
	I'm so happy.
	This is why there's two of us.
	And Nancy joins us from the Hill.
	So Democrats try to make the case that in order to determine motive, you need to hear from witnesses.
	What's the likelihood of that?
	Nora, it is looking less likely tonight because a couple of key Republicans announced today that they are probably going to vote no on witnesses.
	Still, this vote is going to be razor tight.
	It could end up at 50 yays, 50 nays, in which case Chief Justice Roberts would have to decide whether he wants to be the tie-breaking vote.
	That would be incredible.
	All right, Nancy, thank you.
	Hold on.
	That's not a resolution.
	She says he has to decide if he will be the tie-breaking vote.
	What if he decides, no, I'm not qualified?
	He could do whatever he wants.
	I mean, if it was the vice president, he could do the same thing and not choose.
	He doesn't have to pick a side.
	Could you imagine Pence?
	Like, okay, if I say impeach, then I'm president.
	Hmm.
	Tough choice.
	Well, he'd have to recuse himself.
	It's a conflict of interest.
	So it would be a time.
	Oh my goodness.
	Well, here's another little clip.
	Before we play that, I don't know why they're not saying it, the M5M. For once, it would be appropriate to say, at this moment, we are in an actual constitutional crisis because we're interpreting the Constitution and there's disagreement.
	I call this a constitutional crisis.
	Well, this may be...
	I don't know if the word crisis is correct.
	It's like climate change being a crisis.
	I don't think it's that much of a crisis.
	Not everyone's running around with their hands in the air.
	Yeah, do you watch cable news?
	That's all people are doing.
	I haven't watched MSNBC, so I might be completely mistaken.
	Yeah.
	This is a little clip.
	It's just a very small snippet.
	This is impeachment over by week's end, according to CBS. Play that.
	Tonight, Republicans are increasingly confident that they will be able to block witnesses in the impeachment trial, raising the likelihood that President Trump is acquitted by the end of the week.
	Yeah, we'll see.
	It's going to be an issue for the people on the campaign trail since there's a whole bunch of stuff going on in Iowa just before next week's election on Saturday morning.
	So I don't think too many people are going to be complaining, at least after those meetings are over.
	But let's go back to this Bolton thing.
	I got kind of thinking about this.
	Now, I've got two clips on the Bolton in the book.
	And I'm trying to think which is the clip they should go first.
	Let me play the Bolton in the book.
	This is the CBS rundown.
	President Trump had John Bolton on his mind today at the White House.
	He took to Twitter to attack the man that he once chose to be his national security advisor.
	And the administration is moving to block Bolton's book from being published.
	Weijia Jiang reports tonight from the White House.
	And today we're finally ending the NAFTA nightmare.
	Even as President Trump signed a new North American trade deal today, he injected impeachment into his remarks while thanking Republican senators.
	Maybe I'm being just nice to him because I want their vote.
	The White House is lobbying senators to vote against having witnesses such as John Bolton at the trial.
	On Twitter, the president said his former national security advisor begged him for a job.
	And if I listened to him, we would be in World War VI by now.
	He also bashed Bolton's upcoming book as nasty and ugly.
	CBS News obtained this letter from Mr.
	Trump's National Security Council to Bolton's lawyer, saying the manuscript contains top-secret-level classified information that may not be published or otherwise disclosed.
	But while it was only made public today, the letter is dated January 23rd, the day after President Trump said this about Bolton's potential testimony.
	The problem with John is that it's a national security problem.
	And just three days after the White House halted the manuscript, the New York Times reported it says the president told Bolton military aid to Ukraine depended on investigating the Bidens.
	Tonight, Bolton's lawyer tells CBS News that he responded to that letter the very next day to say they don't believe anything in the book could reasonably be considered classified and they have to resolve issues right away since Bolton could be called to testify about that very material.
	Nora?
	Hmm.
	Now, so this got me into the timeline of it all and also the fact that this book isn't coming out.
	It seems as if The book was quashed on January 20th.
	Is quashed a publishing term?
	I think it would be used in publishing.
	So it means it was deep-sixed.
	It was not going to be published.
	Deep-sixed.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Hello, Adam's dad.
	What does that even mean?
	That's an old man's term, deep six.
	My dad used to say it all the time.
	He got deep sixed.
	Yeah, I got deep sixed.
	You meant, okay, boomer.
	I don't even know if this book exists.
	I'm wondering about the whole thing.
	That's also possible.
	It seems to be that nobody gets to look at this book because it's a national security risk and And there's some issue about whether or not it will get printed, but I want to play this Q&A that was on the floor with the...
	During the impeachment that was given to the Supreme Court guy.
	From now on, TSCG, the Supreme Court guy.
	So this is the Bolton book Q&A at the hearing just to straighten out one little factoid that was left out of the CBS report, which I thought was poor reporting after I heard this.
	The question from Senator Merkley and other senators is for counsel to the president.
	Please clarify your previous answer about the Bolton manuscript.
	When exactly did the first person on the president's defense team first learn of the allegations in the manuscript?
	Secondly, Mr. Bolton's lawyer publicly disputes that any information in the manuscript could reasonably be considered classified.
	Was the determination to block its publication on the basis that it contains classified information made solely by career officials or were political appointees in the White House counsel's office or elsewhere in the White House involved?
	The White House Counsel's Office is not involved in classification review, determining what's classified or not classified.
	I can't state the specifics.
	My understanding is that it's conducted by career officials at the NSC, but it's handled by the NSC, so I'm not in a position to give you full information on that.
	My understanding is it's being done by career officials, but it is not being done by lawyers in the White House Counsel's Office.
	Okay.
	So that means the book went through the proper channels.
	It didn't have anything to do with Trump getting it killed.
	So let's just say, I don't know, the CIA puts a book together for Bolton to publish, and it's loaded with secrets, and they know it is.
	And the word goes over, you have to kill this book.
	Because the reason for the book is not for a book.
	Maybe a book will come out eventually.
	But the reason is so he can leak some bogus information that, oh, yeah, I was in the room with Trump when he said quid pro quo and all these bogus claims that supposed Bolton made.
	So now we've got to have Bolton testify.
	When, in fact, he's got nothing to say about anything, but the whole thing is just a complete scam dreamed up by the intelligence agency just to get – And just to point out, because I'm sure, I don't know if you've had any text messaging with the LibJoes, but this was a New York Times origin.
	The New York Times did not quote the book.
	They say, in the book, apparently, Bolton says, in the book, that Trump said to him, you know, no announcement of investigation, no money.
	So, and, you know, that is the new...
	I think it's really...
	Borderline reporting in this case.
	I mean, they can write whatever they want.
	And it also came out in their opinion, to be fair about it.
	It came out on the opinion page.
	Well, that makes it even worse.
	And then meanwhile, John Kelly, the ex chief of staff, comes rolling out and says, oh, whatever Bolton said, I believe whatever he said.
	He's never seen the manuscript.
	He's never seen the paperwork.
	He just comes out to get on the bandwagon.
	Here's what I think.
	He says, well, Napolitano wanted to be a Supreme Court judge.
	I'm sure he did.
	And he wouldn't give it to him, rightly so.
	And the next thing you know, Napolitano hates Trump and he's on the other – he's working for MSNBC now and he's – Bolton's kind of the same way.
	Now, I heard, again, since I was listening to enough right-wing talkers, that from a number of them, they all said that Sean Hannity is the real key guy here.
	No, Lord help the Republic.
	He said Sean Hannity's the one who sees Trump apparently a lot.
	He insisted that Bolton, oh, you should hire Bolton, Bolton, Bolton.
	Because Bolton apparently went to Hannity and begged him to beg Trump.
	Which explains why Trump is not going on Hannity so much anymore.
	He goes on Ingraham and, hmm, interesting.
	Here's what I think.
	I'm pretty sure the president made it known to people off the record, not recorded, and possibly Bolton, hey, We need this from, you know, we need to get this guy going.
	He knows the right thing to do.
	And the fact that he even specifically said to Ambassador Sondland, as per Sondland's testimony, uh, no quid pro quo.
	That's not Trump language, man.
	No way.
	No way.
	He doesn't talk like that unless he has something in his mind and he knows what to avoid.
	He's had some advice or maybe he was setting a trap.
	That's giving him a lot of credit.
	Um, And so he went right up to the line with everything.
	That's why he's so confident, because he knows that there's no actual proof of him saying that.
	Because Bolton would just be Bolton saying it.
	It's not proof.
	I think if Bolton came up and testified, he wouldn't even say that.
	It would be something like a lot of these testimonies that have...
	That are promising.
	Oh, God, this is going to be great.
	He comes out and says nothing.
	Thousands of sealed indictments.
	It's like Comey was a bore when it came to all that sort of thing.
	All right.
	I'm very suspicious about this manuscript.
	I'm glad you noticed it was the New York Times that leaked this bull crap.
	I mean, this is pathetic.
	These guys are just completely off the rails when it comes to this sort of thing.
	There's this new group called the Lincoln Group or the Lincoln something or other.
	It's all run by a bunch of Trump haters beginning with George Conway.
	It's unbelievable.
	And they're all just ex old hacks from McCain's groups.
	I mean, it's just crazy, these groups.
	There's all kinds of press opportunities going on.
	I pretty much sit by the TV with the recorder jacked in all the time, ready to roll it back and capture a clip.
	Let me see.
	Where do I have this?
	So, I got a fun little ditty from Chuck Schumer who went out and, you know, Just listen to how he treats the media when he's asked questions.
	And this grand experiment we call democracy will have been fatally, fatally eroded.
	Because when Americans lose faith that elections are fair, when Americans lose faith that it's Americans determining who elects the president, rather than a foreign power, we've got trouble.
	One at a time.
	I thought this might be it.
	Okay, clip of the day just for that.
	Oh, wow.
	Thank you.
	Unexpected.
	Clip of the day.
	One at a time.
	I thought possible end of show.
	One at a time.
	Possible end of show ISO. Possible.
	Possible.
	Well, let's go up against my end of show suggestion.
	Okay.
	Which is the ISO 5 Bidens.
	Okay, let's check it out.
	Five Bidens.
	Okay.
	Well, I have another candidate.
	Now, during this impeachment, Trump was in New Jersey.
	This was a huge, a huge...
	A meet-up in New Jersey.
	And having lived in New Jersey, I can say with some confidence, and certainly South Jersey I'm very familiar with, Jerseyites really will just vote for the man or woman that they think will do the best job for Jersey.
	This is why it's a very mixed state.
	I think people lean liberal, kind of blue, if you want to give it a color.
	But there's been several famous Republican governors, Chris Christie, Christy Todd Whitman.
	So I think all of New Jersey, which is very blue-collar, certainly South Jersey, is very excited about Trump coming out.
	And so that's why it was extremely busy.
	Fox was covering this, but then something happened, and they cut away after even laughing in studio.
	Democrats decided to shield and shelter criminals.
	Look, look, wait.
	You have criminals.
	All right.
	We're watching the president here in Wildwood, New Jersey.
	I just want to get a quick comment before we...
	What does that cover up?
	That's the moment to turn up the volume, not to cut away.
	You...
	I have no idea what that was about.
	There's a number of people that pushed that clip around, and it was baffling to me.
	Well, let's listen to the ISO. It was like he was on some roll, he was going to go in some direction, and he stomped himself mid-word.
	His brain fried, man.
	Listen.
	Look, look, wait.
	I think he wanted to say criminal.
	Look, look, wait.
	Criminality?
	Cannibals?
	Criminals?
	Wait.
	It definitely shorted out.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, it was a brain fry, for sure.
	For sure.
	You should wonder.
	The press conferences, you know, the stand-ups at the microphone were pretty good.
	I thought there was a good question that was asked of Ted Cruz about the Hunter Biden possibly getting a cushy job on a board, a, as they say, no-show board seat.
	Because he's the son of Joe Biden.
	hopefully you can hear the question.
	He's done.
	Basically, what they said is, Hunter Biden got a job.
	He's now as vice president.
	If that's a crime, I mean, shouldn't half of your children be in prison?
	My children are 9 and 11.
	So he just goes on about his own children.
	But I think the question...
	Oh, actually, you should have played the whole clip.
	I have the whole clip.
	I have it.
	I was going to cut that.
	I have it.
	I have the whole clip.
	Let's listen to the whole clip.
	It's just a funny clip because this guy's all worked.
	It could have been equalized a bit.
	The guy's all worked up and he's asking.
	It's just the stupidest thing moment I think I've seen for a while.
	Basically, Hunter Biden got a job.
	That was vice president.
	If that's a crime, I mean, shouldn't half of your children be in prison?
	My children are 9 and 11.
	I'm sorry that you want to throw a 9-year-old in prison.
	But at this point, my third grader plays basketball and softball at her school.
	So stop playing the nasty...
	No, no.
	Stop playing the nasty Washington game.
	See, I thought it was...
	It was good up until that because it's true.
	I'm sure half of the representatives in the House and the Senate that they have children with fantastic jobs.
	I'm sure they do too.
	Of course they do.
	The problem is when you...
	Cruz is not one of them.
	The problem is when you legislate, and that then behooves your children, and of course, if this president doesn't even have to be removed from office, everyone is now in the crosshairs.
	Everyone's going to get outed.
	It's going to be canceled culture.
	Right on.
	Just while we're still on Biden, I do have one clip.
	No, we're actually on cruise, and I want to play one more cruise clip.
	It's the worst.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Which is, I think, a better format because he has a guy there asking him questions, and so it's more of an informal question-answer, but it's scripted as to what they're going to talk about.
	And he said that there is one, if we get to witnesses, which I personally doubt, if we get to witnesses, and I doubt it because nobody wants the dirty laundry to come out on any side of the equation.
	They're pretending the other way.
	Well, you know, it's going to be interesting because if A couple more Republicans come over.
	I'd like to see Romney retreat.
	That'd be funny.
	Wouldn't that be great?
	There's something that could be done for these witnesses that I hadn't thought about.
	If we do call additional witnesses, I'm very confident we'll call Hunter Biden.
	But if you call Hunter Biden, or rather, if the White House calls Hunter Biden to testify before the Senate, can Hunter Biden just say, I don't want to answer your questions, I plead the fifth, and I'm not going to say anything?
	So he can, and if we call Hunter Biden, he will almost certainly plead the fifth.
	Now here's the interesting thing.
	There's a federal statute that gives the Senate the authority to grant him what's called transactional immunity, which means we can force him to testify.
	Now, he can't be prosecuted for anything he testifies to.
	But you can find out...
	You can get his testimony, and that's something the Senate can do, grant him immunity.
	And I've got to say, that idea, you want to talk about something to terrify 47 Democrats in the Senate?
	It is the fact that the Senate could grant Hunter Biden immunity and hear his testimony about whether, in fact, there was corruption from Joe Biden.
	And let's be clear, this is not about, look, Hunter Biden is a guy who's led a troubled life.
	This is not about him.
	This is the question about whether his dad abused his power.
	And this is where Cruz messes up.
	So now he's accusing Biden of abusing his power the same way they're accusing Trump of abusing power.
	It's a quagmire.
	Well, you're probably right, they're not going to bring the witnesses out.
	But I would like to see him get close enough that Romney has to retreat.
	I'll get you to Biden with this odd, I think very odd thing that happened.
	Same setup, you know, after the session, everyone comes out, they huddle around the microphones, and the Democrats are standing there.
	And then Joni Ernst, who is Senator from...
	Iowa.
	An important senator.
	Says this.
	Iowa caucuses, folks.
	Iowa caucuses are this next Monday evening.
	And I'm really interested to see how this discussion today informs and influences the Iowa caucus voters, those Democratic caucus goers.
	Will they be supporting Vice President Biden at this point?
	That was off message.
	I thought that was interesting.
	Why was it off message?
	It's against the guy.
	It's against the party guy.
	Biden is the party guy, not Bernie.
	Biden.
	She can't be saying, I'm interested if people still want to vote for him.
	That's off message.
	What message is she supposed to send?
	She's not a Democrat.
	Okay.
	She's not?
	Why did I think she was a Democrat?
	I don't know.
	She's anything but a Democrat.
	I'm going to cut that part out of the show.
	That was dumb.
	I didn't know where you were at.
	I'm sorry.
	Why did I think she was a Democrat?
	I thought I looked it up even.
	Okay, well, it's totally on message.
	Way to go, Joanie.
	Yeah, she nailed it.
	Wow.
	Hey, you know what?
	You and Trump.
	That's just not fair.
	I don't think it's me and Trump.
	I think it's more like me and Schumer.
	One at a time.
	I think you're all giddy about doing Joe Rogan.
	That's what it is.
	Oh, that must be it.
	No, I'm all giddy about it to talk about the Kobe copter crash.
	But let's go to Biden first.
	Oh, we're going to get to that.
	I got one clip, too, to add to your thing and some thoughts.
	This is on the Mark Levin Fox show.
	He has either Parkinson's or his own version of Tourette's.
	Have you noticed that?
	He's got something wrong with him.
	That's what they say about me.
	See, that's my point.
	People look at me and go, he's got something wrong with him.
	He's got something wrong with him.
	So he's on there with this book guy who's writing a book about the five Bidens, which is why I thought that ISO was funny.
	And he's got anecdote after anecdote.
	He goes on and on and on, one after the other.
	This is just one of them.
	I could have made two or three clips, and this one's too long, but you might as well play.
	This is the Five Bidens Mark 11 clip.
	Five Bidens.
	Right.
	It's like a whole family of, I'll say, of corrupt Bidens.
	What did you find?
	You know, it's interesting.
	There's two sides to Joe Biden.
	Let me begin with a real small illustration where I think it proves the point.
	Joe Biden has been seen as the Amtrak senator, the guy who's the regular guy who gets on the Amtrak train, would go home to Delaware.
	That's absolutely true.
	But in our research, what we found from local newspaper accounts in Delaware is he not only did that, if he was running late, he would call Amtrak and have them hold the train.
	So, yes, he was regular Joe Amtrak, but if he wanted to pull strings, power for his benefit, he would do so.
	Plus, he knew somebody on the board.
	Yes.
	His son.
	Exactly.
	His son was put on the board.
	Now, we talk about the five Bidens.
	We know about Hunter.
	There's new material about Hunter in the book.
	The chapter's 70 pages long, so there's a lot of ground to cover.
	But some of the other ones are very, very interesting.
	James Biden, for example, his brother...
	Very, very interesting development.
	November of 2010, this old town Biden family friend named Kevin Justice, who grew up in Delaware with Joe Biden's kids, starts this construction company called Hillstone, goes to the White House in November 2010, meets in Biden's office, according to White House visitor logs.
	We don't know what they discussed, Mark.
	It was the only time he ever visited the White House.
	But three weeks after that meeting, he appoints James Biden, the vice president's brother, as the executive vice president of the construction company.
	Did James have any construction background?
	Great question, Mark.
	The answer is no, he did not.
	In fact, on the company bio, which is no longer up, they said that his skill was he was comfortable in the corridors of political power.
	And of course, you're very comfortable when your brother's the second most powerful man in the world.
	But that's just the beginning of the story.
	About six months after James Biden becomes the vice president, this company gets a contract from the federal government to build 100,000 homes in Iraq.
	It's about a billion and a half dollar contract.
	They get a 22 million dollar contract with the State Department.
	They get legions of other federal contracts.
	That's the kind of thing you see repeated over and over with the Bidens.
	And it's all about the timing, Mark.
	These things occur when Joe Biden is pulling the strings of governmental power at this time.
	And then he always says, I don't know anything about it.
	My son, my brother, my other brother, I don't know anything about it.
	Joe is the family franchise.
	And I think he's getting too much credit here.
	I think Joe is dumb.
	And we've seen nothing but dumb stuff from him throughout most of his career.
	And I think that he just doesn't...
	It looks like he's not even thinking through it.
	Let me see now.
	If I help these credit card guys...
	There's all kinds of stuff with him.
	And I'm sure it's the same.
	Maybe it's just normal course of business.
	Everyone else does it.
	Is that strange?
	I think it's rife.
	I'd like to know about all...
	I think it's rife, too.
	I'm not going to argue that.
	Whether he's dumb or not remains to be seen.
	Look at show business.
	It works exactly the same way.
	My kid is in semi-show business.
	She doesn't really want to be in show business, but money's easy.
	Why?
	Because of her parents.
	I put her on MTV as a prop when she was three years old.
	There you go.
	Yeah, so I understand, but MTV is a little different than being a senator or vice president.
	Yeah, and taking the public funds.
	Yeah.
	Which is kind of a different, the major difference.
	And you're not supposed to do that in government because it's just, it's against the law.
	It's not against the law to give your daughter anything she wants in terms of help.
	Oh yeah, I understand, but people forget that.
	They just get complacent financially.
	I have a couple of Joe clips here.
	None of them are great audio quality.
	We know why.
	Because the audio guy and the iPhone video guy hate Joe, apparently.
	Want to make him sound as crappy as possible.
	And here he is threatening Trump.
	So, folks, but, you know, as much as he's trying to destroy me and my family, I hope I've demonstrated I can take a punch.
	And if I'm unnot me, he's going to understand what punches mean.
	He's going to understand what a punch means.
	uh Here, Joe...
	Completely validates our previous discussion as documented and propagated to the universe in the animated No Agenda episode VP Predictions for Uncle Joe, which I think Jennifer did a fantastic job once again.
	I was one of the best.
	I mean, it's funny.
	And you were funny.
	A lot of it was your bit, so it worked so well.
	I'm so proud of that series.
	Not that I'd do anything for it, but we'll take total credit.
	We'll take total credit.
	Animated No Agenda.
	He validates my concept of vice presidential pick.
	I can think of at least...
	Eight women, at least four or five people of color, that I think are totally qualified to be Vice President of the United States.
	But for me, it has to be demonstrated that whoever I pick, there's two things.
	No, I'm serious.
	Look, I'm in great health.
	I work out.
	No, I'm serious.
	I work out every morning.
	I'm in good shape, knock on wood as my mother would say.
	That was worse than I even thought it would be.
	It was pretty bad, but you could understand it.
	He said, you know, hey, whoever's going to be vice president is going to take over because I'm an old guy.
	I'm going to drop dead.
	Pretty much.
	Oh, no.
	What does that mean?
	Could it be?
	Here she is coming in once again for the swoop.
	A lot of us saw the Hillary Clinton variety interview, and there's only one part that you need to know about.
	You only saw half of it.
	Here's the full one minute, four seconds in context.
	You don't have to tell me who it is, but have you picked who you're going to vote for in the 2020 primary?
	You know, I'm going to vote.
	Let me leave it at that.
	I will definitely vote.
	I vote every time there's an election.
	And I am telling everybody here at Sundance, everywhere I go, please, please get out and vote.
	And then whoever the nominee is, support that nominee, whether it's someone you voted for or not in the primary process, because the most important responsibility we all have is to retire Donald Trump.
	I know that you're not running, but do you ever feel the urge that, like, I could beat him if I were, or, like, I wish I'd go?
	Yeah, I certainly feel the urge because I feel like the 2016 election was really an odd time and an odd outcome, and the more we learn, the more that seems to be the case.
	But I'm going to support the people who are running now and do everything I can to help elect the Democratic nominee.
	She feels the urge.
	You're slipping in a little sounds of the eagle.
	It's not an eagle, man.
	It's a pterodactyl.
	You crazy?
	Don't you know the difference?
	You can't have Hillary represented by an eagle.
	By the way, just as an aside, we have a couple of hawks and eagles around here.
	They have a wide-ranging area.
	One was hovering directly over the house as I was coming in from outside.
	Just hovering, just stopped dead.
	And it was, I think, a red tail, I'm not sure, but it's too high up, but you can see it up there.
	And he'd make that noise.
	That noise?
	The swoop noise?
	The squawking noise.
	Yeah, you see it during swooping, but...
	That one?
	Well, something like that.
	Yeah, only from whatever the bird sounds like.
	Yeah, that sound.
	They don't make that sound when swooping.
	They make that sound while they're hovering to get the attention of the little animals.
	Because if you hear it, when I heard it, the first thing I did was look up.
	Yeah.
	And it gets your attention.
	It really gets your attention.
	It's very interesting.
	And they keep making the noise over and over again, trying to...
	Stir something.
	It's like, oh, what's that?
	You know, kind of thing.
	And it's fascinating.
	Anyway, just a little aside.
	Well, I have an aside, hearkening back to the almost inaudible Joe Biden clip.
	In there he says, you know, I've got a number of women and people of color who I'm looking at.
	I have it on the Supreme Authority from that ADOS podcast with Mo.
	And I asked him specifically.
	He is not alone.
	When you say people of color, He hates that.
	He's black, just to...
	I think a lot of blacks do.
	And he says people who say that typically don't have any black friends.
	Probably not.
	But the New York Times uses that as a part of their style guide.
	And having...
	Well, do they now?
	Yes.
	When did they make that change?
	Because that's not...
	I've always thought that was a...
	I always thought it was a sketchy usage.
	People of color.
	I think it's arrogant.
	Here's the headline.
	How some people of color feel inside the Buttigieg campaign.
	New York Times.
	Right there.
	Right there.
	So that's just an aside.
	In fact, Mo said when he hears people of color, his brain translates it to colored people.
	He says, I can't help it.
	How different is it really?
	I think it may actually stem from that.
	It may stem from a desire to say colored people by the racists at the New York Times and elsewhere.
	Now you're getting to the point.
	I think I could be right.
	See what he thinks about that.
	Well, he listens, so he'll let me know.
	So, Joe, of course, has some...
	In fact, we have the latest from...
	I don't know.
	Is this CNN? Let me see.
	So, we've been saying for a long time, we don't have enough polls out of Iowa.
	Now we have too many to count.
	Here's three of the most recent, and there's more than this in the last few days.
	But you see, there is a poll out there with Biden up, a bunch that have Sanders ahead.
	If you ask...
	Average everything together in Iowa.
	Average of all the polls out there currently, this is what it looks like right now.
	You mentioned Sanders now in the lead in the average.
	25, Biden 22.
	Warren back at 14.
	You mentioned Buttigieg.
	It's interesting because I think there's probably a lot of overlap there in terms of Buttigieg and his supporters.
	He's almost doing it like a horse race, isn't he?
	Do you hear that?
	He's up.
	And it's up 25 points, 23 points, we've got Buttigieg, Buttigieg, Buttigieg on the outside, Buttigieg, Buttigieg, oh no, here comes Pocahontas!
	Should work on that.
	So that clip goes on, but the point being that Bernie, Bernie be surgeon.
	Bernie be surgeon, everybody!
	And that's a problem.
	And countermeasures are now in place.
	As the Convention Commission for the DNC have been announced, and I actually somewhere have the full list, but just to let you know that two of the prominent names on the list, Barney Frank and John Podesta, is...
	John Podesta.
	Yep.
	Wow.
	Okay, boomers.
	So they are on the committee, and this is pissing off a lot of people, including Bernie.
	This is Nina Turner.
	She is from the Bernie campaign, and she is not having any of their own party, of course, even though they're really not Democrats.
	They're socialists, and they're just running on the Democrat ticket.
	But it's a big tent.
	Everybody fits under it.
	Very disappointing to see Chairman Perez build a list of this magnitude.
	It also shows a lack of understanding about what the grassroots asked for post the 2016 election.
	It is an embarrassment.
	The DNC should be ashamed of itself because it really is a slap in the face to folks who were asking for reform.
	And let me just say this, that if the DNC believes that it is going to get away in 2020 with what it did in 2016, it has another thing coming.
	And it also hurts the Democratic Party itself, a party that should be big temp.
	Big temp?
	No, not big enough for you.
	So, that's...
	And I can feel the Bernie anger amongst his constituents.
	Although, no one cares.
	Project Veritas keeps trying to make a big deal out of it.
	Showing the Bernie bros.
	We're going to burn everything.
	We're going to burn.
	Madison, we're going to burn.
	We're from Milwaukee.
	Yeah, I'm a tough guy.
	I'm from Milwaukee.
	I am going to burn.
	People, you know, they've got to be very careful.
	I don't know who's running the show, how it works.
	It seems like a very closed box, black box.
	But the people who voted for Bernie Sanders in 2016, they are not going to let the same thing happen.
	I hope they know all of the tricks that were played.
	Including the phony polling places that would swap out ballots.
	I'm making accusations I can't prove but there's a lot of circumstantial evidence.
	And they're going to be angry.
	Yeah, and if you also remember, during the primaries in New York, there was a number of precincts that never reported a vote.
	They all disappeared.
	Yes, that's...
	Remember that?
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Those are all Bernie districts.
	I don't know how that works.
	And with that, though, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the...
	Convention Committee!
	John C. DeLorex!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam McCurry.
	Also in the morning, all ships to sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning to our troll room, noagendastream.com.
	Big thanks and big up to Darren O for yet another fantastic pre-stream.
	I've concluded the O stands for Old Faithful.
	He's always there before the show to get everybody all riled up in that trolly-rolly mood.
	And they're doing a great job today.
	What's it called?
	What's it called?
	At the beginning of a show, he comes out and he gets a warm-up guy.
	Yeah, Darren's a little more than a warm-up guy, but yeah.
	He's more like Joan Jett opening for Aerosmith.
	A lot of these warm-up guys are pretty talented.
	They're always the next superstars.
	Don't they always start as a warm-up guy and then they headline?
	Yeah, something like that.
	All right.
	Don't get too excited, Darren.
	It's just a podcast.
	Anyway, 1,039 trolls in the troll room.
	And morning to all of you.
	And in the morning to the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1211, 1,211.
	We titled that The Pale Male.
	And this was brought to us by SirNetNed.
	And you were pretty convinced right off the bat this was the racehorse with number 33.
	Of course, the lucky number 33.
	And it just popped.
	It just popped right off the page.
	There were a number of choices we had.
	I see.
	I think there was something else we were looking at.
	There was some not-so-good ones.
	Actually, I think it was probably the best one.
	Oh yeah, no, I like the Darren O'Neill, Don't Panic, the gas mask.
	Yeah, I like that one too, except it had the, it was, the color scheme I thought was kind of dour.
	I didn't like it.
	I didn't like the color scheme.
	I liked the idea.
	What I really am digging, because I use the, well, I think a number of podcasts.
	I think the Apple Podcast app does this as well.
	I got one for Linux.
	But depending on the album art, the whole interface kind of fades into that color.
	So if you'd look at this on an iPhone, you'd look at that episode, there's a blue hue to everything.
	How does that manage?
	None of the interface adapts.
	It's kind of cool.
	It looks good.
	Thank you very much, Ned.
	Your contribution is highly appreciated, and anybody can go and take a look at all the things that are in there.
	You can use them for multiple purposes.
	No Agenda Shop uses them for their mugs and their hoodies and their t-shirts and all their other paraphernalia.
	The artists even get paid if someone buys some of that artwork.
	We use it for newsletters.
	I even got one for my birthday, for my birthday.
	I remember, I think it was my 53rd birthday.
	I got a whole, you know, my sister-in-law made a beautiful big art piece with hundreds of no agenda pieces of artwork in it.
	So it's multifunctional and it's a part of our Value for Value network.
	There's no other podcast that does this that I'm aware of.
	There's maybe one or two.
	No.
	Nah, there's one or two that change it on a regular basis.
	But not of this quality.
	Not like this.
	Not this topical.
	It does not exist.
	And why?
	Because we realized long ago.
	I'm trying to do my Bernie.
	It's not coming out well.
	No, not at all.
	You're starting to sound a little like Sharpton.
	We need producers.
	We can't afford them.
	So that's the Value for Value Network.
	It's your podcast.
	You're producing it.
	And the results are right there on the screen every single time.
	And we love thanking people who support us financially.
	Without that, there would be no show at all because we couldn't survive.
	And we give them titles.
	Executive producers, associate executive producers, just like Hollywood.
	John, who is on the list.
	Wow.
	You're really giddy about the Joe Rogan show.
	I'm DJing, man.
	I'm DJing.
	Get the date for us.
	Rogue, Black Knight of the Viscount of the Palooza, is our first executive producer.
	And he came in with...
	We have two of these today, by the way.
	Two 1212.
	Oh, and this is an angel number.
	1212 is an angel or angelic number.
	There's two things I missed.
	I missed the angel number, even though it was on the artwork of the...
	Of the newsletter.
	I had the angel number, but I didn't know anything about it.
	I just fell into it like the normal idiot savant that it can be on occasion.
	So I walked into it.
	The other one I miss is that 1212 is also 33.
	Yes, if you count them up in the conspiracy theory way.
	1 plus 2 is 3 plus 1 plus 2 dash is 3.
	It's 33.
	Can't you see it, man?
	It's clear as day.
	33.
	33.
	Having ascended to barren status, he writes, on show 999 with a show donation and Viscount status on show 1111 with another show donation, it seemed only fitting to continue the trend with a show donation of 1212.
	I'm on a roll!
	Woo!
	And by my calculation, I will make it to Archduke right about show 2020.
	Wow, that's going to be a party.
	That's slightly less than seven years and ten months from now.
	Yeah, it'll be a funeral.
	One of ours.
	How can we last?
	Seven years?
	Okay, well, whatever it takes.
	You know, there are other show numbers in between that are kind of cool.
	I don't know.
	Hey, thanks, Rog.
	We do have...
	2020 coming up this month.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, or just about the time Trump will be running for his fourth term.
	He makes a joke there that I stepped all over.
	No jingles, but I appreciate some land hunting karma as I'm on the lookout for a nice big mountaintop to hunker down on until the corona scare passes by.
	LOL. And last but not least, please give yet another douchebag call out to Tall Paul.
	Douchebags!
	Slacker.
	Sincerely.
	Sanely yours.
	Yes.
	Roag, Black Knight, and Viscount of the Palouse.
	Here's that mountaintop karma.
	You've got karma.
	Your land-hunting karma.
	Thank you, man.
	How incredibly generous.
	Very generous, and thank you very much.
	Also, a second 12-12 show donation is Matthew Simpson.
	War and Peace coming.
	Here is a...
	It's really...
	I can tell you, Matthew, that...
	This is nothing.
	You have no idea.
	This is nothing compared to war.
	This is nothing.
	This is like, oh, what a joyful short note.
	This is a short story.
	This is a 12-12 donation for the show 12-12.
	I'd like to take a moment to highlight this number's true magic.
	First 12 is the largest single-syllable number, which makes this show the last show that can be pronounced with only two syllables.
	Ha!
	12-12.
	Yeah.
	This occurred to me last Thursday since...
	12, 12, 12, 12, 13, 14.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	It occurred to him last Thursday since 1210 was your penultimate two-syllable show.
	I mean, the second one.
	Right.
	Or the second in the list.
	The second best.
	Second and the – or second to last.
	Second, and the numerals of each of these 12s, or add the numerals of each of these 12s, put these two sums together, and you get 33.
	We noticed that earlier.
	Coincidence?
	I think not.
	I also hereby request a retrograde make good for show 1203.
	I was given credit for a $333 donation.
	I actually dropped, donated $230, $10 for each episode of Animated No Agenda extent at the time.
	This was explained with a donation note I sent to John, which was not red.
	Bad.
	Keep going.
	Don't stop.
	This gets better.
	I'm not sure what he thought.
	Details are in John's squirrel mail.
	But apparently it wasn't clear in that note.
	I pledged a periodic donation to equal 10 for each animated No Agenda episode produced and encouraged other producers to pledge in a similar manner.
	I think it's a good idea.
	Was that the Zephyr?
	No, that's just some freight train.
	The Zephyr came on time and continued on time.
	Anywho, he says, you'll find an additional $120, $30 for three additional ANA, animated no agenda, videos, and $90 to make up the difference I was credited I was credited with in show 1203.
	Wow.
	That's the honor system working right there.
	I love people who do that.
	Yes.
	Thank you so much, Matthew.
	And again, very, very generous of you as well.
	And I'm going to throw out a karma because I feel like he deserves it.
	You thought karma.
	Even though he didn't ask.
	Matthew Brahe comes in with 500 bucks.
	Hey, John and Adam.
	My dad turned me on to No Agenda, and I love it.
	I am at 92Michael on Twitter.
	That's 92 number.
	The number is 92Michael.
	Thanks, P.S. Please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Yeah, and thank you, Michael's dad, for hitting your son in the mouth.
	The Bray, do you recognize that last name?
	Brahe.
	Brahe.
	Do you think his dad is a supporter?
	I don't know if he's a producer or not.
	I don't know.
	It doesn't ring a bell, but it could be me.
	It's odd how many people I certainly have gotten to know and know about through donation notes.
	It's really...
	Oh, yes.
	A lot of them have...
	There's enough donation notes.
	A lot of people like to multiply.
	They donate a lot, and they have a lot of personality in their notes, and you get to know them kind of.
	Roderick Lenhart, 33369.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	ITM, gents, I'm on my sixth and final leg of my 65-day honeymoon, smoking hot wife photo attached.
	I didn't see it.
	I didn't get the photo.
	She's a gorgeous wife.
	And fell behind four to five episodes as we enter coronavirus land.
	Can I just make a policy?
	Can I set a policy for the show?
	I don't like coronavirus.
	I think we should just consistently call it Wuhan flu.
	It's so much cooler.
	Well, this makes me...
	Well, not to break away from this, but this makes me wonder how serious they are about this.
	There are some people who think, well, I think you're amongst them.
	They think the whole thing's a scam.
	Yeah, I don't like the branding.
	This is not good branding.
	And the fact that they're branding it this way, as a general coronavirus, there's lots of different coronaviruses.
	SARS was a coronavirus, and the other one was too, MERS. And this one, if they were...
	I think the whole thing may just be a short-term situation.
	We'll get to that.
	If it was long-term, you're right, they'd call it the Wuhan virus.
	So I think we should call it the Wuhan flu, not virus, Wuhan flu.
	That sounds scary.
	I could catch it.
	The Wuhan flu.
	The Wuhan scourge.
	They're never going to do that.
	Never mind.
	Okay, we're going to substitute as we go.
	Yes.
	And I fell behind four to five episodes as we enter Wuhan Flu Land.
	I couldn't wait to hear some real analysis about the impeachment trial once I hit Wi-Fi.
	We arrived in Chiang Mai, Thailand.
	Oh, I've been there.
	And wouldn't you know it, our room number is 33.
	Mm-hmm.
	Coincidence?
	I think not.
	So here's 333.69.
	333 for me and 69 for Rocky Foster.
	Who knows?
	He should donate.
	There's your message, Ricky, you bastard.
	Ricky, Ricky.
	It's time like these that the douchebags out there need to realize how important the value-for-value model is in PonyUp.
	You're a bastion of sanity in the M5M wonderland.
	Wish us luck and plentiful face masks as we head to China next.
	Keep up the good work.
	Soon to be Sir Roderick of Flavortown.
	Is he on the list or anything?
	Because he's not blued out here.
	No, he's not.
	Soon to be.
	It's not yet.
	It doesn't mean now.
	Okay, he's soon to be.
	No.
	It means what it says.
	Please kick it old school, Adam, and give me a clippity-clop.
	Don't hit Eat Me, Hillary.
	Two to the head and a little girl.
	Yay.
	It's clippity-clop.
	The message is clear.
	Just clippity-clop.
	Don't eat me.
	There you go.
	Old school.
	Excuse me.
	Yeah, I finally got rid of my cough.
	It's almost gone.
	I'm getting a cough.
	A month.
	Oh, well, hopefully.
	I was thinking about it.
	We were in Soho, which is pretty much China, because it's all Asian students.
	And, of course, I immediately equate someone who looks Asian to Chinese.
	I think I got, like, an early version of the Wuhan flu.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Seems unlikely.
	Michael Sellers, Cypress, Texas, 333.
	ITM, John and Adam.
	Though I've been a $5 a month subscriber for a few years, I'm excited to make my first executive producer donation.
	Nice.
	I humbly request a de-douching for my first on-air credit.
	You've been de-douched.
	I've planned to donate to the show 1212 for a while now, and I hope this makes the cutoff just in time.
	And I will say just in time, because it came in five minutes before midnight.
	If you take the two 12s and add the numbers, you get the two 3s, or 33, which you've noticed, which makes this the episode to support.
	As a recovering journalist, I appreciate your deconstruction.
	I'm disappointed in how my previous profession has deteriorated.
	Read that again.
	That's important.
	I like hearing that.
	Well, I have a comment on it.
	As a recovering journalist, I appreciate your deconstruction.
	I am disappointed at how my previous profession has deteriorated.
	Yes.
	Well, as I played the clip medley from 1998...
	I'm not sure it has.
	It's just as bad.
	There's more YouTube.
	I was thinking about this last night, actually.
	Because it seems as though it just happened, but then I start relating stories of my kids when in the second grade, stuff that went back during the very Goldwater era in the 60s and 70s.
	I don't think it's deteriorated at all.
	I think it's been this way and it's just now being noticed because the change in the structure of the media and social media and the internet and other things I think have made it more apparent.
	Interesting you bring that up because I too had a thought about days gone by of the yesteryear.
	About the social media, you know, how people just become total dickheads on social media once they're anonymous and just, you know, why we have this incredible discord, just anger and people yelling all the time.
	When I first got on the Usenet newsgroups, Some of you may have to look that up.
	USENET newsgroups.
	It was a fantastic system because basically you had a local copy of all of these bulletin boards and at night it would circulate around the whole internet and everybody would get their updates.
	You could post something but it wouldn't come back until a day or two when everyone had seen it and circulated.
	It was just a beautiful system for the amount of people that were online then.
	This is before the web.
	And I remember going on alt.music.
	I don't know, maybe music video or something as MTV guy Adam Curry.
	And I remember immediately...
	You're not supposed to quote in line.
	You don't have to do this.
	You have to say this.
	And then we had something called netiquette, if you recall.
	Netiquette, how you're supposed to speak with each other online.
	But it was the same thing.
	It was anonymous people yelling at other people over trivial stuff.
	It's just gotten easier to do.
	But there's something about human behavior.
	The minute you let someone talk in a group and it's completely anonymous, people become dickheads.
	Nothing new under the sun.
	Well, that was the gift of the internet.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Nothing new.
	It's the same, same thing.
	Now, the funny thing about Usenet, just as an aside...
	Now, Usenet was kept in play for years after things, you know, the web began in 93 approximately, and Usenet was still running in the late 90s, and it was largely...
	Taken over as a structure by, if you remember this product, I may be wrong about the names, but I'm going to try to remember.
	Deja Vu.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Which was a system that organized Usenet for you, so you could still go on Deja Vu, and you could go into these old groups, does something, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Right, right.
	And it was structured, so it was easier to navigate.
	Everything was better about it.
	And that was on the web.
	That was on the web at the time, wasn't it?
	Yeah, it went through a web browser.
	So you could use that on the web browser and it stayed alive and it was vibrant and it was running.
	Google bought it.
	Dead.
	Looked left, looked right and killed it.
	Killed it.
	And then they started Orcut or whatever.
	They killed it.
	Yeah.
	It was so well organized, too.
	You could go alt dot binaries.
	You wanted one porn picture.
	For five hours, you had to download 18 different parts and then have a program that reassembled it.
	Yeah, well, that's kind of the way BitTorrent was organized.
	Yeah, it's true.
	I think the idea may have come from that.
	You're so right, man.
	Nothing changes, really.
	All right.
	And thank you, Michael, for not on Michael.
	We haven't finished this note.
	Okay.
	At all.
	We jumped right over.
	I'm going to have to start the note over.
	Though I've been a $5 subscriber, did he get his dedouching?
	Yes, we did the deducing, yes.
	I planned to donate for a while, and he went on.
	You get two 33s.
	The race to the bottom...
	Okay, here we go.
	After, as a recovering journalist, I appreciate your deconstruction, and I am disappointed in how my previous profession has deteriorated.
	That took us off the track.
	Yeah.
	The race to the bottom was one of the factors that caused me to leave after a decade of low wages...
	Poor work-life balance and working daily miracles to get stories on the air without recognition of the effort involved.
	It's called paying your dues, Michael.
	Paying your dues.
	Paying your dues, man.
	Yeah, you got to pay your dues.
	I spent the last eight years in marketing, but it may soon be time to strike out on my own with a video production company.
	Yeah, there you go.
	In preparation for the future, I humbly request some small business goat karma to grease the machinery of capitalism and hopefully help me find a modicum of success.
	Jingles or ever an L respect.
	Klobuchar sounds pretty good.
	And thank you for your courage, Mike Cypress, Texas.
	Mike, Cypress, Texas.
	P.S. I typed this note in notepad.
	Oh, this is interesting.
	I typed this note in notepad.
	I listened to this in Notepad and copy and pasted it to the donation box in PayPal.
	Just a tip to other producers who are concerned about their notes ending prematurely.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	I think that sounds pretty good.
	You've got karma.
	My new favorite.
	Did you notice in that Noah Jen animation, When I said something about Klobuchar being in play for Vice President.
	I send a little heart.
	I have a little love heart.
	She cuts to you with your hand over your heart with a kind of a swooning thing going on.
	Like you're in love with Amy.
	I think it's the square lipstick that is so attractive.
	AC plus...
	Yes.
	Michael Goodell in Grosse Pointe, Michigan, 298.14.
	He becomes our first associate executive producer.
	And he writes, this donation is in tribute to my smoking hot recently invested girlfriend, Lady...
	Chardonnay of the grape fields.
	No, Chardonnay, it says.
	Chardonnay.
	Okay, Chardonnay.
	And also because it's my birthday.
	He's 64.
	When I'm 64, will you still need me?
	What is this word here?
	The amount.
	I think it's run together.
	It's like a theremin, only different.
	You play it with your toes.
	The amount.
	He's got it hooked up.
	Reflects my current word count on the novel.
	Ah.
	Wow.
	Let's go back and look at that number.
	29814.
	29,814.
	Wow!
	You've got a ways to go.
	War and peace.
	For a succinct description of a meetup, how about a place where people from all walks of life gather around a single shared interest?
	Sort of like an AA meeting concept, except cocktails are served.
	Donald and Nancy Jobscomer, please.
	Because I have two full-time jobs I would...
	It'd be nice to be paid for at least one of them.
	Do we have a moment to play a jingle that explains the meetup?
	I think so.
	Living as a slave in the world today takes everything you've got.
	Seeing heads on a stick of Dvorak and Curry sure would help a lot.
	Wouldn't you like to get away?
	Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the knights and dames And they're always glad you came You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same Expected to play the game You wanna be where everybody feels
	the same It's like a party Hugh Allison assists from Ron Aldridge.
	That's exactly it.
	Heads on a stick.
	Like a party.
	Like a party.
	Alright, he needed a Nancy and Trump jobs karma.
	Here we go.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	You've got karma.
	There we go.
	All righty.
	Garrett Benikos in Tiggard, Oregon, 250.
	He's in there with the Grand Duke.
	Yes.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	I've been a listener since the beginning and still listen to every show I can.
	I appreciate your guys' work very much.
	You bring me laughter and sanity in these crazy, crazy, crazy times.
	Thank you so much.
	If possible, I'd like to request a much-needed de-p-de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Jobs Karma for an app I just put out, Health Karma, do you guys have that?
	For my parents, and shout-outs to my brother Wes, my cuz Shoebrick, B. Brown, B. Buffington, my dude named Ben across the pond, and my smoking hot wife for putting up with all the no agenda over the past decade plus.
	And last thing, my birthday is today, January 29th.
	You're on the list.
	I would love very much a birthday shout-out on tomorrow's show, which we'll be listening to.
	Well, he wrote this yesterday, obviously.
	Which I'll be listening to live.
	You're in the chat room.
	Thanks again, Adam and John.
	You guys are the best.
	Yes, he needs...
	What kind of karma did he want?
	Health karma?
	Yes, we have that for you right here.
	Yep, combo.
	You've got karma.
	We want jobs, too.
	Oh, jobs, karma.
	Oh, sorry about that.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Okay, and we're to Sir Dave, Earl of America's heartland in Saudi Arabia.
	Whoa, Fugizoto.
	234-33.
	He's on a roll recently, giving us a lot of attention, which we appreciate.
	I think he'll go into silent mode shortly, but he did send an email in.
	Dear PETA and Hummus, I was a bit concerned to hear about the FAA's restriction on ESAs in show 1210.
	I have an Obadiah, my emotional support octopus, for several years now.
	He, I think, it's hard to tell, as I'm not really sure where to look on, how do I assume gender, is not terribly empathetic, but he's a great hugger.
	That said, it's probably the best that the dry, recycled airplane air on long international flight does tend to dry your out.
	Fortunately, I have just a solution.
	Paging Dr.
	Bronner, Dr.
	Bronner to seat 33B. It's all there in the fine print, you know.
	So Fugazoto is doing some free association here on the fly.
	Would you like me to handle the German?
	He's on a flight now.
	It's one of those flights where they sometimes cut the oxygen way low.
	And he was writing this as it took place.
	And then also...
	Travel Goat Karma for some upcoming work for travel to Taif, Jeddah, Yanbu, and Medina.
	Funky, cold Medina.
	Medina's interesting, as there's only one hotel that is available for non-Muslims like me.
	Also, the city is surrounded by large arches marking the Haram Zone, inside of which is for Muslims only.
	Not to be confused with the Harambe Zone, which is a very different place.
	No kidding.
	If you'll indulge in Earl, a quick story.
	When I lived in the kingdom back in the Nauts, we spent a few days in Medina for work.
	After we got finished one day, my interpreter said, let's go downtown and get some Al-Tazaj.
	John, that's a chicken joint you raved about on show 966 and 967.
	Okay, I'll just hang out here at the hotel, I said.
	Meh.
	Mafi Mushkela.
	No problem.
	Come with us.
	Just don't say anything.
	Oh, and try to look like a Muslim.
	Dave cannot pull that off, no matter what.
	Well, you can wear enough on him, but he said he did it.
	Um, okay.
	Well, I survived.
	I must have done it right.
	And that's the story about how I was smuggled into the forbidden zone of the second holiest city in Saudi Arabia for the world's most delicious fried chicken.
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	Thank you for your introduction.
	Yes.
	The girl of America's heartland is Saudi Arabia.
	Thank you, sir, Dave.
	And I guess we're seeing Dame Melody.
	We're having dinner with her.
	She's going to be an awesome, by herself, next weekend, I think.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Yeah.
	Very nice.
	Well, more stories.
	We move on to Annapolis, Maryland, where resides Vassilios Plagitus, I think, 21212.
	This donation is a big thanks for letting me listen to over 300 episodes of No Agenda in 2019.
	I've learned so much along the way, and my commuting life is much more enjoyable.
	I'm, let's see, 300 episodes?
	This would be two a week?
	No, no, no.
	There was no 300 episodes of No Agenda in 2019.
	There's 200 maybe.
	I've attempted to hit my smoking hot girlfriend.
	Excuse me, John.
	You know, there are some people who will go back and listen to episodes, so I think he went through the archive.
	Ah!
	You're welcome.
	Thank you.
	I read, by the way, I've run into this every so often.
	I first started running into this in Canada.
	There's a timing thing with interpersonal relationships where you do something, and just at the time you're going to say thank you, the guy says you're welcome, as if you didn't say thank you soon enough.
	Well, after 12 years, it's about time.
	You were doing it sarcastically.
	But I've noticed this, and now I'm starting to notice it around Berkeley.
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah.
	It's one of those things.
	It's very strange.
	I've attempted to hit my...
	He continues.
	I have attempted to hit my smoking hot girlfriend in the mouth while we're driving on a road trip.
	The That's True clip is pretty much the summary of her knowledge of the show.
	That's true.
	She was sweet enough to buy me a No Agenda University hoodie for my birthday, a fantastic gift.
	She is the best.
	I also want to say this to the producers that have listened to more No Agenda shows than you can count, but haven't donated yet.
	Do it.
	I'll be honest.
	I listened to over 80 episodes before my first donation, but man, does it feel good when you start returning the value you receive.
	Thank you.
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	Let's go to the chopper.
	Okay, you got a clip to set me up here?
	I do have one little clip.
	This is a little short clip with some information.
	And this is most recent.
	This is CBS and a little discussion.
	They talk mostly, of course, Kobe Bryant died in this helicopter.
	Everyone knows that.
	And it became the top of the news for the whole week and continues.
	And now there's some controversies because certain people are – cancel culture-oriented people are trying to defame his – because of his rape charges some years back and they're trying to make fun of it or condemn him.
	But the guy is dead.
	And I mean come on, people.
	Yeah, really.
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	New video from a doorbell camera captured the sounds of the chopper falling from the sky.
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	Today, the Lakers practiced for the first time since Sunday's crash, as tributes continue to flood in.
	Yeah.
	I think, because we heard about this, the Troll Room alerted me during the last show, and right after, I took a quick look.
	Do you remember the first thing I said?
	I'll tell everybody what you said.
	Once we discovered what the chopper was, it was a Sikorsky SK-67, I can't remember the name.
	76.
	76.
	Adam said, you know, that's considered one of the safest helicopters there is.
	And it usually has two pilots.
	I'll bet you that the guy was maybe one pilot and he probably checked in as a visual only instead of using instruments and probably crashed from just kind of like that.
	The first thing out of my mouth, which I'd hoped you'd remember, was scud running.
	I literally said scud running.
	I never remember that because it's too screwy a term.
	Right.
	So, the reason why...
	I'm uniquely qualified for this particular flight.
	Reasons are, I am rated single-engine, complex, fixed-wing, and rotary, several types.
	So, I'm certified to fly, and of course, Robinson 2244, Enstrom 480B turbine.
	I owned and operated and piloted, although not all the time, an Augusta 109E Power twin-turban helicopter.
	Which is very similar to the S76, but the S76 is bigger, significantly bigger, but it's the same idea, twin turbines.
	Although I do not hold an instrument rating, I have had 15 hours of instrument training, 25 hours flying helicopters, 1500 hours fixed wing.
	I also owned a helicopter company that operated for high-end clients.
	And had an AOC, an Air Operator Certificate, which is basically an airline, very hard to get.
	There's a lot of rules, a lot of regulations.
	So I understand the private owner experience.
	I understand operating for demanding clients.
	And just to give you...
	Two examples, because this does come into play in this particular story.
	My instructor would also operate aircraft for other clients, and he had a very wealthy guy who had a King Air twin turboprop, I think it's 12 seats, very nice aircraft.
	He and family friends were going to go on a flight somewhere, and they showed up with 13 people.
	And a child, an extra child.
	And they're like, well, you can just sit on someone's lap.
	And William said, no.
	And if you don't like it, you can take your plane and get off, get out of my hangar, go.
	And that's how I was taught.
	It's like, no.
	You cannot have an extra person.
	There's regulations.
	You've got to stick to it.
	And there's reasons for it.
	My personal experience with my own aircraft, the Augusta 109E Power, when I was not flying, I was in the co-pilot seat, and we had a replacement pilot named Pete Barnes, and he was from a UK helicopter company that also operated the Augusta 109s.
	It was a fill-in pilot.
	As we're getting ready to take off, And actual little wisps of smoke come out of the control panel from the transponder.
	And you can pull these modules.
	He pulls the module out.
	He says, oh, damn, it fried.
	But we have clearance, so let's just tell them once we're in the air that something's wrong with the transponder.
	Otherwise, they won't let us take off.
	And we took off.
	And I thought at that very moment, I'm never flying with this guy ever again.
	Because, yeah, it might just look like the transponder blue, but because I think he was like a flashy guy, and I say was because, if you recall, at Battersea in London just a couple years ago, bad weather, private pilot, within Augusta, goes to pick up a customer.
	It really was not the right weather.
	His tail boom hit a crane.
	He died.
	Two people on the ground died, and that was Pete Barnes.
	So there's this get-there-itis situation, This is what we talk about, especially when you're flying high profile or high net worth individuals, which is also high profile.
	So that's part one.
	And by the way, I did not start my investigation with this.
	I first immediately went looking for any evidence that this was an Illuminati sacrifice for the Grammys the next day.
	And I'm serious about that because...
	Yeah, you are serious because, in fact, you watched the Grammys.
	I watched some of the Grammys.
	I didn't watch all of them.
	But I know you watched the Grammys specifically for Illuminati stuff that is always there.
	It's always something.
	It's always creepy.
	Yeah.
	But I think there's too much evidence that points to what really happened here.
	And so here's the next data point that you need to understand.
	And instrument flying rules, visual flying rules, special visual flying rules, not that important in this case other than to understand that if you want to fly on instruments...
	And there are exceptions to this in different situations, but basically that's leaving from an airport, going to another airport.
	Your flight is mapped out.
	It's known.
	The whole point is that air traffic control is going to try and sequence you for when you arrive, and that's why you have slot times.
	You've heard of this.
	Oh, we missed our slot time because that is part of the IFR, the instrument system.
	And This helicopter flies perfectly well with instruments with a single pilot.
	It's called single pilot IFR. That's only for the flying part.
	It doesn't land automatically.
	It doesn't hover.
	You have to be going, and this aircraft, I think, 55 or 60 knots to even engage the instruments.
	But you're still hand-flying it down on instruments down to the ground, but you can definitely get through some real pea soup.
	Everything else is visual.
	Hovering in a helicopter is very important.
	You cannot hover...
	Well, of course, there are some AI systems.
	I'm sure you can find a video somewhere where someone created a helicopter that hovers by itself.
	But no.
	You need to be able to see outside.
	You need to be able to see a horizon.
	Otherwise, you cannot hover the aircraft.
	The second part of the situation...
	Why?
	Spatial awareness.
	Because you are keeping that in balance.
	It's almost like a ballet move.
	Both your feet and both your arms are working with the cyclic and the collective.
	One is for up and down, one is for left, right, forward, just to make it simple.
	You need to see the horizon to know where you are for your inputs.
	And it's minuscule.
	There's none of this left, right.
	It's like a quarter of an inch and then back.
	Otherwise, you can get into oscillation.
	Once you can do it, it's like riding a bike.
	But you cannot do it without being able to see a horizon.
	It doesn't matter.
	It could be lights.
	As long as you see horizon, it can't be a whiteout.
	And a whiteout is what we're talking about here.
	And I have been in whiteouts twice.
	Actually, part of your instrument training, when you are in an aircraft and you cannot see out the windows, the same spatial awareness issue pops up as someone who has vertigo.
	Within one second, maybe even less than a second, that you're in a complete, I cannot see outside the aircraft, I can't see horizon, whether it's fixed wing or helicopter, you will immediately be disoriented.
	You will think, I'm leaning to the left, I have to lean over, I have to move the stick over to the right.
	You will be upside down within about eight seconds, and you won't even know it.
	Or you could be in a dive, you could be in a crazy climb.
	It's, everyone, every pilot will tell you this, it cannot be done.
	You have to immediately go to your instruments, to your horizon, and that will keep you safe.
	And I've had this happen in, again, I don't have instruments, so I have been special VFR, which means you can kind of see the, it's bullshit.
	I can't really see, but I'm not in the clouds, so let me go.
	Just for permission to cross some aerodrome.
	With the plane I flew, the Cessna, I had a leveler.
	So you get into the clouds, you hit the leveler, immediately it goes, it's just going to keep you leveled, then you have to look down at your instruments and make sure you're not in a dive or going up or down, but you can't look outside.
	I've also had it happen in a helicopter, and it was on the way from Amsterdam to Belgium.
	Luckily, I knew where I was.
	I knew that it was all flat.
	There were no wires anywhere, because that's what kills most helicopters.
	So I got into a situation, white out, I flew into something and it was white all around me.
	Immediately I went to the instruments, slowed down, straight ahead, no turns whatsoever.
	I'm just concentrating on keeping it straight and level, slowly lowering the collective so I come down out of whatever cloud I was in.
	Very scary experience.
	Here's what happened.
	And it can only be one of two things in all cases of aviation, mechanical or human error.
	And the human error will be the pilot.
	In this case, although the pilot knew what he was doing, was very familiar with the terrain, he should have, in my mind, filed for instruments and gone to an airport and had his passengers take an Uber from there to wherever they're going to go.
	So you've got nine passengers in this aircraft, or eight, eight or nine.
	So it's full.
	You've got kids.
	They're going to a game.
	And you show up at Burbank.
	You want to cross the Burbank airspace so you can go around and make your left to go wherever you wanted to go.
	But because he was not IFR, because he was not on instruments, he had to hold.
	And in fact, he had to hold for other aircraft who were slotted and scheduled to come in, and one of them was on a go-around, which means they missed their approach for whatever reason, probably because of the weather.
	And so they were all IFR. So he was not IFR and had to circle, I'm not sure if it's 12 minutes or 15 minutes, Let me tell you, circling in a helicopter that's full of people is not fun.
	The passengers don't like it.
	It gets annoying.
	You get anxious.
	You'd have to witness it for 15 minutes, and I'm sure it's like, okay, I got people in the back who really want to get out of this thing.
	It gets very claustrophobic when you're doing this, and these are pretty tight turns.
	So, I think that that clouded his judgment, and when he made his turn, he was following the 101 to go right, you know, it's completely the way you do it, everything according to the book, except he hit a whiteout situation, And he did the first thing I think would be the right thing to do in his case because he knew terrain was ahead.
	He pulled up, but then he made, I think, a critical error.
	And maybe it's because he saw that he wasn't going to clear the top.
	There's some reports that he was only 20, 30 feet away from clearing.
	He made a decision to turn.
	That decision was a fatal one.
	Why he turned left, I'm not so sure, because in this helicopter, the pilot sits on the right-hand side.
	You couldn't see anyway.
	He decides to do what we call a wing-over, is the way I see it.
	So you turn left, kick the tail, and he lost his spatial awareness, inverted, and they crashed.
	They probably didn't even know they were upside down.
	And it was just, boom, right away.
	So, bottom line, should have flown IFR. Well, somebody did something wrong.
	He did something wrong.
	The pilot made a poor decision in planning.
	You had a long exposition at the beginning of this lecture about demanding clients.
	Mm-hmm.
	How does that come into play?
	Why did you even mention it?
	Did you not hear what I said?
	Unless you think Kobe or somebody was saying, hey buddy, we've got to do this together.
	What part did you miss where I said that they wanted to land at the sports club?
	He made the decision, instead of saying, it could get a little patchy, I'm going to fly you to the airport on instrument, then you take a 10 minute Uber ride from there, that was one.
	That was Camarillo, yeah.
	The second part is when you're in a hold for 12 to 15 minutes, people get anxious.
	Kids get anxious.
	It's not a fun experience.
	Even in a hold in a 747 gets annoying after a while.
	I know you've witnessed it.
	Like, oh, here we go again.
	And we're turning again.
	And we're turning again.
	Now imagine that...
	You start bitching.
	Yes!
	To your passengers and people next to you.
	What's this bullcrap?
	So I... So of course...
	It was the anxiety or the anger of the...
	No.
	This is pilot...
	I don't care how angry your passengers are.
	He should have said, no, I'm flying you, IFR, instruments, and then you can take a cab from there.
	I think that was the big mistake.
	So, the reports are pretty accurate in this case.
	Not the early reports which went on for days.
	I heard the engine sputtering!
	Please.
	Oh, he was hovering in the clouds!
	No.
	No, he wasn't.
	None of that was taking place.
	So, I wish I could make it more spectacular like an Illuminati sacrifice, but unfortunately, bad day.
	It happens to a lot of good pilots.
	Sadly.
	So if you have a helicopter, and it's clear everything's fine, and you wanted to just go straight up, hovering, just gaining altitude, how high could you go?
	So there's two types of hover, the in-ground hover and the out-of-ground hover.
	That depends entirely on how much fuel and passengers you're carrying.
	So for instance, this helicopter, when it's pretty much full, you've got a VIP interior, lots of human beings, enough fuel...
	Taking off, coming up into a hover above the ground, because you're then in ground, you're pushing all this, you have an air cushion between you and the ground, that will work with this helicopter.
	To then fly, you have to transition and start moving forward to create lift, which is just like an airplane where the rotors then function as wings.
	And it depends on how high, because of course you have different density the higher you go.
	If you don't have all that weight and you're at the right weight and balance, you can do an out-of-ground hover.
	You can just hover in the sky like the police helicopters do.
	Some helicopters, depending on what they have on board, how much weight they have, can do that at 18,000 feet.
	You see it all the time with mountain rescues.
	But not when you're fully loaded.
	You can't just...
	In other words, I think what you're saying is could he have just stopped and been in a hover?
	A, no, because you can't do that in a complete whiteout situation.
	B, he probably didn't have...
	No, actually, I'm wondering how high...
	Like, let's say a police helicopter or something that's got pretty empty could just go straight up and keep going.
	What altitude would it be like, I can't do this anymore?
	That totally depends on the aircraft.
	It has to be...
	I mean, let's just say the most optimal.
	Is there any craft that can go to 40,000 feet?
	No, no.
	No.
	The top, I think, for specially equipped, and it's usually Sikorsky's or Eurocopter's, the 136, I think, comes to mind, the 35.
	Yeah, the Eurocopter 135.
	They can be outfitted to do that at...
	Up to 18,000 feet.
	Two problems.
	One, you're going to start getting breathing problems because you're not pressurized and you need oxygen.
	And at a certain point, you just can't go any higher.
	There's not enough airflow.
	The density drops to such a degree that you're flapping around in nothing.
	Okay.
	I've always wondered about that.
	Yeah, you're welcome.
	Why do I wonder about it?
	I don't know.
	Maybe you want to go on a trip.
	I personally, I got to tell you, I don't fly in helicopters, I don't know.
	Not as a passenger, any of that.
	I don't like it.
	I don't trust it.
	For a lot of these reasons.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I think we're done with that.
	You've solved all the questions that have been answered.
	I hope so.
	We'll probably go another week with the tributes to Kobe.
	Yeah.
	Meanwhile...
	I don't know anything about Kobe.
	To change the subject, because we have a big thing coming up that nobody's talking about.
	Brexit!
	And Faraj was at the...
	This was great!
	Well, now I clipped it, but I clipped it in two parts.
	I clipped the beginning and then I took...
	I had to gut it because it went on for five minutes.
	Well, you got the beginning and the ending, I'm sure.
	I got the beginning and the ending because the ending is the best.
	It's the beauty.
	It's the beauty.
	Yes, I agree.
	So, and I also have a press conference.
	Now, there's also...
	He did a press conference afterwards, which is kind of interesting because And for informational purposes.
	And we may or may not want to play that this show, but let's start with the Farage goodbye number one.
	This is Farage and the UK European Union parliamentarians at Starfleet Command in the big hall.
	And I believe the president, von der Leyen, I think she was presiding.
	Yes, she was.
	The new female head honcho of the European Union.
	A 47-year political experiment that the British, frankly, have never been very happy with.
	My mother and father signed up to a common market, not to a political union, not to flags, anthems, presidents, and now you even want your own army.
	For me, it's been 27 years of campaigning, and over 20 years here in this Parliament.
	I'm not particularly happy with the agreement we're being asked to vote on tonight, but Boris has been remarkably bold in the last few months, and Ms von der Leyen, he's made it clear, he's promised us...
	There'll be no level playing field.
	And on that basis, I wish him every success in the next round of negotiations.
	I really do.
	But the most significant point is this.
	What happens at 11pm...
	This Friday, the 31st of January, 2020, marks the point of no return.
	Once we've left, we are never coming back, and the rest, frankly, is detail.
	We're going, we will be gone.
	And that should be the summit of my own political ambitions.
	Just for everyone's knowledge, I clipped the whole thing, so the full clip is in there.
	What I think you don't have, although it is interesting to go back and listen to later, is Faraj talking about the do-overs, which we've talked...
	No, the second part of it's got the do-overs.
	Oh, it's got the do-overs in there?
	Okay.
	Because what I'm hearing is, yeah, they had this vote...
	In the European Parliament, but it's still going to be a while until they've actually done the final paperwork.
	Yes, December 2020.
	This is the part I did cut out.
	The fact that, yeah, okay, on Friday this ends, but...
	Well, I have a clip for that later.
	Let's get to the second part.
	Okay, this is the good part.
	And you may loathe populism, but I'll tell you a funny thing.
	It's becoming very popular.
	And it has great benefits.
	No more financial contributions.
	No more European Court of Justice.
	No more common fisheries policy.
	No more being talked down to.
	No more being bullied.
	No more Guy Verhofstadt.
	I mean, what's not to like?
	I know you're going to miss us.
	I know you want to ban our national flags, but we're going to wave you goodbye, and we'll look forward in the future to working with you as sovereign...
	Right, that was where his microphone was cut off.
	If you disobey the rules, you get cut off.
	Could we please remove the flags?
	Mr.
	Farage...
	Could we remove the flags, please?
	That's it.
	It's all over.
	Finished.
	He's gone.
	Could I please ask the quiet?
	I'm really...
	Please sit down, resume your seats, put your flags away, you're leaving, and take them with you, if you are leaving now.
	I'm...
	Take this flag and shove it!
	Can I just say, if I may say, just in a slight reference, the word hate was used.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	Now, you're right, I thought I had it in there, but I didn't have it in the second half, where he bitches about all the do-overs.
	And claims that the British, he expected the British to do it too, but they didn't.
	The whole thing was funny because at the very end she cuts him off as he's saying the last two or three words because they all pulled these little bitty British flags out.
	They're like little desktop, like souvenir flags.
	They're waving them like, you know, there's about 20 people there and they're waving these little flags and she gets bent out of shape about it.
	It's so juvenile.
	Yeah.
	Here's a report as to what we can expect tomorrow night at 11pm Gitmo Nation UK time and then what it really means, I think.
	At 11pm, of course, Boris Johnson wanted Big Ben to bong, but that's almost an impossibility because, of course, as we all know, Big Ben is under refurbishment and it was going to cost a rather large amount of money to actually make that happen.
	So instead, at Downing Street, there'll be a light show put on with a clock that's going to be shone on the side of Downing Street.
	Of course, the Prime Minister's residence and there'll be a countdown there at Parliament Square.
	People who supported Brexit, of course, will be coming out to also count down to that moment.
	11pm, of course, in Britain, which is 12pm in the European Union.
	So the European Union got its way on that one.
	So there'll be some sort of celebrations, I think, at Parliament Square.
	This issue has divided a nation, so not everyone will be celebrating.
	There will also be those commiserating, those people that didn't want the UK to leave the European Union.
	But I think after that, come Saturday morning, Boris Johnson for one will be hoping that everyone can just move forward.
	We can all stop talking about Brexit.
	That is what I think you'll hope for.
	So the critical phase, I think, will be done.
	But there'll be more pain to come, that's for sure, because Boris Johnson will have just 11 months to come up with a free trade deal with the European bloc.
	And already there are some European leaders saying that that's an impossibility.
	It can't be done that quickly.
	So again, there'll be a crunch time at the end of this year in December because if a free trade deal can't be done, then there could be a no-deal Brexit and, of course, all the uncertainty that then comes with that.
	But this today in the European Parliament, you saw Nigel Farage there flying his British flag.
	His parliamentary career is over for all the right reasons, according to him.
	So that was a key moment, but there is still more to come Friday night and then a little pause and come back in December.
	So the way I read this is they agreed to go figure it out in 10 months from now.
	Only there's no going back, but they still haven't actually negotiated the exit.
	They're still talking about a hard Brexit.
	What is going on?
	I wish I knew.
	I mean, it's obvious that this is just another stalling tactic.
	I don't think they're really leaving.
	I agree.
	You know, you can say what you want, but I'm not seeing them leaving yet.
	What's going to happen is that the British congregation or the contingent in the EU parliament is not going to be there anymore.
	They're going to be gone.
	Yeah.
	But meanwhile, I found this press conference interesting because Farage has asked a lot of questions about a lot of things, but some Swiss guy comes up and asks about the EU is pressuring Switzerland to join.
	And Farage had some observations about the whole EU and the EU structure and why it has an appeal.
	It doesn't have an appeal to the masses.
	the professional politician, the political class, which I think is being reflected in a lot of areas, including the United States.
	But when you listen to it from his experience and point of view, you can see it's a corrupting influence and you can see why.
	Listen to this.
	Another example you mentioned quite often during all this year is Switzerland.
	So my question would be, even Switzerland, it seems, or the government, this wants to tie itself closer to the European Union to keep this access to the interior market.
	So what would you say to the Swiss?
	How do you see the Swiss model nowadays?
	Is it still a model for the UK for the future?
	Thank you.
	Well, look, I don't know any Swiss models personally, but I'm sure that, you know, you have a...
	You have a...
	It's all right.
	You have a model of direct democracy, which I'm insanely jealous of.
	The fact that you are able to hold your political class to account by holding referendums at a national level or at a canton level, I like.
	And after all, Brexit's only happening because we have the ability...
	To have a referendum and make a decision.
	If it had been left to the politicians, we wouldn't even be discussing this.
	And Switzerland is rich too, and it's done incredibly well, and it's really rather small in terms of size, and it's carved out its own position.
	The difficulty in Switzerland, of course, and you highlighted it beautifully in your question, is that everywhere the political class loves the European Union and the people don't.
	And this is perhaps hardly surprising.
	I mean, look, you know, for most people, coming to Brussels, even as an MEP, you know, and you get chauffeur-driven cars, an endless list of invitations to champagne receptions, you're told you're the elite of Europe, it's all very tempting, and...
	You know, you probably start to earn money that you could only have dreamt of.
	And it's an amazing thing, isn't it, that in this city of Brussels, within a couple of miles of where we are, there are 10,000 people earning more than the British Prime Minister.
	So, from the perspective of Swiss politicians and bureaucrats and civil servants, what's not to like?
	It's the same story all over Europe.
	The EU have done their best to try and bully Switzerland, but I think Brexit will give them other things to think about and maybe take a bit of the pressure off you.
	There were a lot of European parliamentarians or UK European parliamentarians who were crying, and I think some of them were crying because, wow, we did it, and also, holy crap, there goes my cushy lifestyle.
	Yeah, it sounds like fun.
	I mean, you know, over there, you're making it like, I don't know what they're making.
	They're making more than the British Prime Minister.
	I don't know his salary, but it's probably a few hundred thousand dollars.
	But with all the perks and the freebies and chauffeurs.
	You can hire your family.
	You have a budget for that.
	You can hire your family.
	You have parties all the time.
	You get a per diem.
	And I think the per diem is 150 euros a day.
	So there's plenty of videos of this.
	I think Farage even did one.
	People who show up, they'll fly in to Brussels or to the other place.
	Where is it?
	Strasbourg.
	Yeah, they fly in.
	It'll be like 4 in the afternoon.
	They go into the, I'm sorry, 300 per diem.
	I'm being corrected by the trolls.
	300 euros per diem.
	But you have to show up, sign, you get your 300 euros, and they go right back out, get in the car and go to dinner.
	They take the 300.
	I showed up.
	Here I am.
	Let me sign.
	Because you have to sign for it.
	Imagine that!
	That's better than podcasting.
	I'd say.
	Uh-huh.
	And we don't get the chauffeurs or any of the perks.
	Far from it.
	The Uber?
	Can I call Uber?
	Yeah.
	So we'll have to see exactly how this goes with...
	But to me, I think you're right.
	We can call it a stalling tactic, but what the British people want...
	My understanding from my friends and what I read is they said, just get it done.
	We're sick and tired of it.
	They don't care.
	Let's do it.
	That was the slogan.
	All sides of the equation.
	Get it done.
	Just get it done already.
	We're sick of it.
	Now they're going to go through another 10 months of deliberation.
	The same conversation.
	All he's losing is his per diem.
	And the parties and all that.
	And the parties and the chauffeurs.
	Yeah, we got to change the jingle, too, to Wuhan flu.
	It won't work with that.
	There's a little bit to talk about.
	I have a very interesting clip.
	Okay, well, I just want to set it up.
	What's the name of the clip so I can cue it?
	It's the coronavirus in Japan.
	There's an odd tidbit.
	We'll get that in a second.
	This is an interesting double whammy, I realized, for China.
	Even though we've talked about it, you brought it up on the show, I have a news alert set up for it.
	Every single day there's stories about the swine virus, which we call pig Ebola in China.
	This has devastated Chinese pork supplies.
	This is a much bigger deal.
	They eat a lot of pork.
	Their pork is pork-centric.
	It's a pork country.
	Yes.
	And to be hit with, and that's part of the reason why Trump was able to do part one of the trade deal, is they're buying a lot of stuff from us because they can't make it anymore.
	A lot of it due to this pig Ebola, as we call it.
	So to have this Wuhan flu on top of it is really an economic double whammy.
	And I think that even Trump is now starting to say, well, you know, because countries are shutting down air travel.
	We don't want people coming in.
	There's a lot of fear-mongering that this has a, you know, within, it doubles every 6.2 days is, you know, It's one of the modeling, but of course it's modeling just like climate change, so why would I believe it now?
	And it is a little bit more severe than other types of flu.
	But yeah, I mean, if you put it in perspective, from a health standpoint, people die from the flu all the time.
	More die from your domestic flu.
	People die from getting the flu shot, even.
	So flu, it's the pneumonia that gets you.
	And more people will die from pneumonia from causes here in the United States, I believe, than from the Wuhan flu.
	But the economics of it, shutting down travel, shutting down shipping, I think that part of this is going to be much more important today.
	And then we find some new little wrinkles, which are good for the conspiracy side of my brain, such as the Chinese researcher who was working in the Level 4 Bio Lab in Canada and was removed in July.
	Dr.
	Zhango Chu has been recognized by the Governor General's Innovation Awards.
	This work can't be done without teamwork.
	She and the team at the National Microbiology Lab have been praised for developing an Ebola vaccine.
	But just over a week ago, Chu, her husband, and her students from China were evicted from Canada's only Level 4 lab, their security access revoked.
	Staff at the lab was told last Monday the couple is on leave and not to communicate with them.
	We're getting this from sources who work at the lab but who don't want to be identified for fears they'll be punished.
	They say this is coming just months after IT specialists entered Chu's office after hours and replaced her computer and her superiors stopped authorizing work trips to China.
	Manitoba RCMP confirmed it was called in by the Public Health Agency of Canada on May 24th.
	A spokesperson says the agency is investigating a policy breach calling it an administrative matter and it's taking steps to resolve it expeditiously.
	We can assure Canadians that there is no risk to the public and that the work of the NML continues in support of the health and safety of all Canadians.
	And again, this report was July 2019.
	We've had a number of researchers now exposed as working with separate contracts and research deals on the side, not disclosed, with China, all connected to Wuhan University of Technology, I think, and their biomedical lab there.
	It's a lot of possibility for stuff to have...
	Slipped out.
	I mean, weaponized.
	There's a million different ways you can look at it.
	We really don't know.
	Other than the World Health Organization now comes out and says, yeah, we were wrong.
	It is kind of a pandemic in China.
	We're just going to kind of relabel what we said.
	We were trying to calm you down.
	And yeah, it's a problem.
	And I think it is at pandemic levels in China.
	So what happens now is all a matter of economics, as far as I can see.
	It's just...
	We have this just-in-time supply chain for a lot of our companies in the United States, which really means you order it.
	It kind of like gets stamped out.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom.
	Oh, there's an order.
	This was a technique that was...
	Yeah, you might be able to explain it better than I can.
	This was a technique that was...
	I understand it as first popularized by Hewlett-Packard, and I think in the late 80s or in the 90s.
	And it was picked up by most of the high-tech companies.
	And the best of the best and the greatest of the great is Tim Cook at Apple.
	He was considered the superstar of this world.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That was his thing, right?
	Super bean counter with the JIT.
	He was the guy who could do this better than anyone, and he knew how to do it.
	And it's tricky.
	It's not easy to do.
	You have to have the right – everything has to be in place.
	Everything has to be – and you essentially set up – I would say it's like a physical version of microservices architecture, something I harp on.
	And so everything is like ready.
	It's ready to go.
	And so when things come in, everything comes in at exactly the right time.
	It's like a virtual Ford Motor Company plant where all these – if you've ever been to a car manufacturing or worked there in a car manufacturing operation, there's things coming in.
	There's a door coming down while handles are coming over here and things are coming over here and all these things are coming together.
	Well, this is done on a worldwide basis.
	It's like the same thing, only virtualized into the real world.
	So all manufacturing is just in time, just like the door is just in time for you standing there where the door comes and you hook it to the car.
	And everything operates like that.
	And to do it at a massive scale, which is why Apple's the world's biggest company technically in terms of its...
	And why it produces so much is because they can do this better than anybody.
	People think about the innovation.
	The innovation is their manufacturing.
	And I'm pretty sure that they know...
	Tim Cook knows how to do this.
	He knows how to swap out supply chains.
	And I think...
	Well, you can't make it work unless you can swap things out.
	Yeah, and from different places.
	It's like the single point of failure.
	You can't have that.
	So I'm sure everything is fixed with that in mind.
	But there's a lot of stuff coming out of China.
	Yeah, and it's not just technology.
	There's a lot of stuff.
	So this just-in-time can be interrupted.
	I think that's real.
	Now, will we be crying because we can't get an iPhone?
	No, but it has follow-on effects.
	It's a domino effect.
	One of my buddies works at a chip manufacturing company.
	And he has Asians, as in Indians, Pakistani, and Chinese, and I think Korean.
	And he oversees all this stuff.
	And I actually questioned him, I said, is any of the just-in-time stuff, is that affecting your supply chain?
	I said, dude, no.
	But the people...
	Everyone stays clear of the Chinese in the building.
	They don't want to be near them, won't sit near them during lunch.
	Of course, the Chinese have all of the last face masks, so there's animosity over that.
	That's just one company.
	I'm sure there's lots of stuff like that going on.
	So while the media, the M5M, plays up, we're all going to die, maybe, who knows, that once again show, oh, Johnson& Johnson working on a vaccine.
	Oh, here's this company, NovoVax, which is basically a penny stock which is listed on NASDAQ. It should be over the counter.
	That shoots up nine bucks.
	There's a lot of shenanigans going on.
	It's the same thing that happens with any virus.
	But this time, the economic aspects, I think, will be different.
	What's your Japan clip?
	Well, this is interesting because it introduces an element that nobody in the U.S. or anyplace else has picked up on.
	And it's a frightening little element.
	But you're not going to hear it in our media because that's what would freak people out.
	But let's play this clip and you'll hear it in there.
	In Japan, the health ministry says three evacuees have tested positive for the virus a day after returning to Tokyo.
	Please!
	206 passengers were on their government chartered flight on Wednesday.
	All were sent to medical institutions to undergo tests.
	The ministry says two of the infected patients had no symptoms.
	It's the first time in Japan the virus has been detected in patients without symptoms.
	The Prime Minister also says two of the evacuees didn't give their consent for the health check.
	The procedure is not legally binding.
	Unfortunately, they did not agree to be tested.
	We could not force them, as it is also a human rights issue.
	Abe said he's confident all evacuees on subsequent flights will give their consent.
	Now, a second plane carrying 210 Japanese nationals from the virus-hit city touched down at Haneda Airport on Thursday morning.
	13 passengers on that flight are exhibiting symptoms and have been sent to a special hospital for infectious diseases.
	Huh, you rang the bell, I heard it.
	Your interpretation?
	No symptoms.
	Yeah.
	So all these airports with all these scanners looking for temperatures and all the rest of it is nonsense.
	It's useless.
	Yeah, apparently you can carry the virus and be contagious for two weeks before symptoms develop.
	Yeah.
	And we have real world examples and so you're going to end up with a situation that's just completely could go out of control.
	Assuming this thing is as virulent as they'd like us to believe, it may or may not be.
	I mean, in China, like we had our letter, we almost worth rereading the letter from our guy in China talking about the sanitation habits of the locals coughing all over each other and their cramped borders and it's like a lot different than, you know, the wide open spaces of the West.
	Yes, but take a good look at what a socialist slash communist government does for the people in times like this.
	They cram them together.
	You've got pop-up hospitals, which are basically containers that lock from the outside.
	I think that's genius, by the way.
	Oh, man.
	A whole bunch of people died in that container.
	Strap it up, boys!
	Just lock it down.
	The crane comes over.
	Throw them in the river.
	Drops them in a ditch.
	But I'm all over the economics of it.
	That's what I find interesting.
	Well, that would be interesting to watch because that could trigger a slowdown, which is needed anyway.
	Well, that's what I'm looking for.
	I'm looking for the...
	But it could be, yeah.
	We'll be following this probably much closer than the M5M, at least...
	Not closer in terms of like hours of coverage.
	We're not going to sit here and scare you like you're going to die.
	We're going to analyze what's really out there.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Right?
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	That's right, we've got parties going on all over the place.
	We have two meet-up reports.
	The first one for the Local 76 meet-up.
	This was held at the Philadelphia Brewing Company.
	This is Sir Scatman of Norristown at the Local 76 meet-up, and I am not planning on killing myself anytime soon.
	Tom from New Jersey.
	This is Sir McQueen of Blighttown.
	Praise the sun.
	This is Brian Michael, creator of such jingles as...
	And now it's time for 3x3.
	Oh, yes.
	And Ask Adam, yeah.
	Wow, this sounds exactly like the jingle, actually.
	Love you guys.
	Black Knights are easy, and I just want to tell you, don't worry, be happy.
	This is Sir Brad, Viscount of the Jersey Shore in Delaware Valley.
	In the morning, my name is Jay.
	This is Swimiller.
	Hey, this is Supertizer and Epstein didn't kill himself.
	Hola, Adam and John.
	Mike from Coopersburg.
	Hey guys, Jason Deluzio from Chats Ford.
	This is Cuba from Wayne, PA. I just want to say thank you to John's chair.
	Keep up the great work.
	This is Kaya.
	I don't know why I'm here or who these people are, but thank you.
	Hey, your chair got a shout-out.
	That's pretty good.
	It's about time.
	Now we have a report from the Alexandria, Virginia meet-up, and, of course, we always like to play...
	Spot the spook.
	Spot the spook.
	It should be at least one.
	Everybody wants to spot the spook.
	Yes, we're quite confident that there's always at least one spook to keep an eye on things at every single meetup.
	This is more or less in the spook's backyard.
	Tell me if you can hear the spook in this meetup report.
	Hey, Adam and John, this is Sir William at the Alexandria, Virginia meetup, ITM, and looking for the vinegar book.
	Hey, it's DC Girl in the morning.
	Hey, this is Alan.
	That is all.
	Lorraine in the morning from FEMA Region 3.
	That is Phil from Annapolis.
	Thank you for your courage in the morning.
	What do you think?
	I think Alan.
	That is Phil from Annapolis.
	Thank you for your courage in the morning.
	Oh, you think it's Phil from Annapolis?
	I think Phil.
	Let's listen to the rest.
	This is Sir Chris, not Wilson, from sexy South Arlington.
	Happy to be here.
	This is a dude named Daniel, your humble, no-agenda meetups admin here.
	Give me a reason to three.
	Hi, this is Bob from Annapolis, one of the other subs in the water.
	Glad to be here in the morning.
	In the morning!
	Nice!
	I think it was this guy.
	Although, honestly...
	Right here, this one.
	That is Phil from Annapolis.
	Thank you for your courage.
	In the morning.
	Yeah, he sounds like a spook.
	Although DC Girl may be the true spook.
	That could be.
	It makes more sense.
	Hey, DC Girl, in the morning.
	Yeah, I think she may be the spook.
	She has kind of a twang to her voice, a little bit like, I don't know who these idiots are, but I'm going to...
	DC girl, if she truly is the spook, she's a good one.
	She is on no agenda social.
	She's very active in the community.
	Very active in the community.
	She's probably highly competent.
	Let's have a look at the overview for the coming week.
	I didn't want to play the whole long one.
	That's too long.
	Is that the short one?
	That's crazy.
	The other thing is, DC girl never gives her name.
	No, of course not.
	Why would you?
	I don't think these other guys, you know.
	Why would you?
	This Friday, Colorado Springs Local 719, 6 o'clock at Phantom Canyon Brewing, upstairs.
	Andrew Jones organizing for you.
	Also on Friday, the local MCO Central Florida meetup, number four.
	That'll be at Stanford Brewing Company.
	Brandon E. organizing for you.
	Then we go to Saturday, Charleston, South Carolina, their six-week cycle.
	Every six weeks they do a meetup.
	It'll be at Moe's Crosstown, same place as in August.
	Dame Jennifer Buchanan, well-known as the art director and the evil genius behind Animated No Agenda, organizing that for you.
	Saturday, Boston, the No Agenda Meetup at 2.30 in the afternoon.
	Red 33, Red 33, Castle Island Brewing in Northwood, Massachusetts.
	Nuts.
	Make sure you are there if you're in the neighborhood.
	Southwestern Ontario, Scandinavia Meetup also on Saturday at 6 o'clock.
	Enjoy a Burger Rebellion and Beer from Refined Fool.
	Trevor Collette will be hosting.
	Then next Thursday, Fairfield, Connecticut, 5 o'clock.
	New York City commuters local kitchens close to the Fairfield train station.
	Dame Jamie.
	Another fantastic, she is always emailing me great ideas and links.
	She'll be organizing also next Thursday, No Agenda Toon Man Tour, the Ramallah Stop.
	This is the Palestine Territories.
	Well, standard time, actually.
	So he's touring in the Middle East.
	He'll be at Barley's in Ramallah, and that's in Israel.
	And who am I talking about?
	Jesse Coy Nelson has done many, many fantastic end-of-show mixes for us.
	He did not have any takers in Jordan.
	He was in Amman, Jordan.
	Could not find anyone for the meetup.
	If you are anywhere near Ramallah, Israel, please...
	A lot of Israeli listeners.
	Yeah, I don't know how far Ramallah is from Tel Aviv.
	The whole country is walking distance.
	Good point.
	What am I thinking?
	So he needs someone to show up for this because he had a, you know, it's the Middle East tour, people.
	Then next Friday, Toronto No Agenda Six Week Cycle Meetup, M-E-A-T. That will be at WVRST Union Station, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
	Bishop organizing that for you.
	Also next Friday, Southern Chilinosian Meetup.
	Ah, Shillanoisian meetup, I got it.
	Southern Illinois, and that'll be at 6 o'clock, meet at the St.
	Nicholas Brewery, and then brand new entry for next Friday, Lou's Top of the South New Zealand Piss-Up.
	Meet in Nelson, New Zealand at the local watering hole, the Spring and the Fern Tahunawi.
	I have no idea what's going on.
	Your mate Tom is apparently organizing that.
	And then there's also a Seattle meetup next Friday on the 7th.
	Meet at the Lookout Bar and Grill, Patrick organizing for you.
	All the details for this are at NoAgendaMeetups.com where you can find meetups near you.
	If there isn't one, make one.
	Get one going.
	People love this.
	And The Keeper and I will be in Delray Beach for the meetup on February 21st.
	That's your meetups.
	NoAgendaMeetups.com.
	A great initiative.
	Love seeing this.
	It's good for your soul.
	All right.
	Well, I've got three clips left that I want to run.
	All right.
	One of them is a public service.
	I might want to get that out of the way first.
	It's got a sad story in it, which I'm thinking as I watch these people, this is nothing that would happen to any No Agenda listener.
	But let's go on with it, mainly because we mock this situation.
	But CBS decided to do it kind of as a public service to run this story about the Social Security scam.
	The government today sounded the alarm about what it calls the most reported scam in America, social security fraud.
	There's been 115,000 complaints in the last three months alone.
	And as Anna Werner reports, the thieves are sophisticated and scary.
	I was very afraid.
	Michelle and Kyle Anderson say the elaborate scam began with a phone call like this one.
	Your social has been found some suspicious for committing fraudulent activities.
	When she called back, they said...
	There has been some fraud on your account and we feel like you're suspect in a crime.
	A man told her her social security number had been used by a drug cartel to set up multiple fraudulent bank accounts.
	That these people were very dangerous, that they were watching me, that I needed to do what I was told.
	And not tell anybody, right?
	And not tell anyone.
	To protect the family's assets, he said she needed to wire all the money in the couple's bank accounts to an offshore account.
	So she did.
	I drove to the credit union and I transferred all of our money into our checking.
	The couple lost $150,000.
	What?
	How did they come up with that money in the first place?
	People have money in the bank.
	Wow.
	Money we had worked our entire lives to save.
	Anderson testified at the Senate hearing today in Washington about the scam that has cost America's seniors $38 billion.
	Americans trust our agency and our employees and we cannot allow swindlers to erode that trust.
	Now Kyle Anderson wants to warn others.
	Maybe this happened for a purpose.
	Maybe it happened to us so that we could help others.
	How dumb are you?
	I'm sorry.
	Just, that's, I mean, really?
	You could see the couple.
	This is like a couple of, I'd say they're in their 60s, late 60s.
	The woman looks like a Berkeley, you know, kind of a woman who never washes her hair.
	The kind of women I run into at Berkeley Bowl all the time that are always going through the change in their person.
	The guy looks a little like a retired businessman who does not seem too pleased with his wife.
	And I'm reminded of the movie that was done by Brooks, the comic, not Mel Brooks, but the other one.
	Living in America or something, where a couple goes to Las Vegas and They decide to retire.
	They jump in a mobile home.
	They go to Las Vegas, and within 10 minutes, she's lost all the money that the family has at the gambling table.
	Is that National Lampoon's vacation?
	No, it's not vacation.
	No, it's not.
	Albert Brooks.
	Albert Brooks.
	Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
	And that's what it looked like.
	It looked like she was so stupid that she, you know, oh, okay, I won't tell anybody.
	I'm going to send all the money to you.
	And, of course, what happens, because we've gone through these, and we've had a few of them I've taped.
	I try to tape them if I can.
	I haven't had any recently that are worth taping.
	I had some guy cuss me out once.
	I thought it was pretty funny.
	But they grill you, I guess.
	How much money do you have?
	Well, I've got $150,000 in this bank account.
	Oh, that's what we need, coincidentally.
	You have to be really dumb to fall for this.
	But over billions and billions of dollars, this has happened.
	Over 100,000 complaints.
	Where is Elizabeth Warren?
	Right.
	Where's our FBI when it comes to this?
	Where's the Consumer Financial Protection Board?
	Where is that bureau?
	Whatever it is.
	Where is that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	John, it's obvious.
	These are the same people who respond to the call to action chip in.
	Chip in.
	Chip in.
	I'll chip in.
	No agenda producers are not this gullible.
	No.
	No, you have to be.
	I'm convinced they're both Democrats.
	Let me interject.
	I know you have two more clips you want to play.
	There is new news, new news from our gals.
	That's true.
	That's true, gals.
	I haven't been following them.
	I've dropped the ball.
	Well, when I realized that the Angelic number 1212 was on deck, I decided to check out the Angelic Initiative.
	This is our two ladies.
	That's true!
	They actually don't say that's true.
	They have a new one.
	But there is a very...
	They have a new one?
	Well, yeah, you'll hear it.
	Instead of saying that's true, they say other things.
	Yeah.
	We have a show on Sunday that will be 0202-2020.
	And that apparently, according to what they are receiving from the higher dimension, there's something about that date that's going on, and we should be aware of it.
	This planet is in such crisis times that it's time to stop thinking about whether or not people will be making fun of us.
	Yeah, that's right.
	To think about what more can we do.
	And we've got a deadline approaching of February 2, 2020, which was a deadline given to us maybe three years ago.
	Maybe, yeah.
	And what are we supposed to have accomplished in light?
	Let's really give it that final push.
	So intersecting that awareness with the clue about the request to thin the astral dimension.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	I do notice this interesting pattern that's been happening this last maybe week or ten days where our entire dimension seems to be flipping upside down.
	And when we ask to be shown what's going on, we keep finding this room that's got an open window and there's a stack of papers on the desk.
	In a much higher dimension.
	Thank you.
	In a much, much, much, much, much higher dimension.
	Thank you.
	Much larger and much higher and there's a paper that seems to represent this entire dimension and it keeps getting blown off the desk and onto the floor and it tends to blow upside down as if the ink...
	On the page causes the ink side to fall down.
	That's right.
	And how it tends to feel to the souls is as if they're heavy-headed dolls and the bobblehead keeps going down and the little feet are sticking up.
	That's right.
	So it's a similar sensation of being upside down.
	Something going on.
	Upside down.
	I think that's a lot.
	I was going to give you another clip of the day for that, but you cut it short.
	No, no, no.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	That's true.
	You know, Super Bowl is this Sunday.
	No agenda show is this Sunday.
	It's a crazy date.
	And they feel that...
	And both in Europe and the U.S. it's the same as apparently...
	Yes, another good point.
	So there's...
	They sound a little worried about the universe flipping upside down.
	Well, they've been, you know, there's jokes in there.
	I can't come up with them right now.
	It's the long end of the show.
	It's up for me.
	But I'm sure more than a few things have flipped upside down for those two women.
	I'd stay away from the Super Bowl.
	I'll tell you that.
	I wouldn't go.
	If I had tickets, I wouldn't go now after hearing that.
	I'd take them seriously.
	I was going to go.
	Really?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	I was planning on going and broadcasting from the, you know, right after, I could go over to Miami, I could broadcast the, do the No Agenda show and then go right to the game.
	Yeah, in the chauffeur limo.
	Yeah, if you're working for Gimlet.
	Now, I'd be using a Neumann mic.
	Yeah, right.
	All right, take us home, Johnny boy.
	Okay, I got two clips.
	You can choose what you want me to do.
	Now, one of them is going to annoy you.
	Oh, let's do that one.
	Well, wait, let me explain why it's going to annoy you, so I can get you warmed up and so everyone can get ready, because it's going to annoy everybody.
	Okay.
	Because normally when we do clips, we take the pauses out.
	And we like to make it because it tightens them up.
	Yeah.
	But when you're dealing with George Soros...
	And the fact that he is – I would say that he's borderline over the hill.
	And, you know, he's a big – still an important guy, important dude.
	He still has a lot of thoughts on things.
	He's a major personality.
	Yes.
	But listening to him go on and on about how Facebook is going to make sure that Trump gets re-elected – This is his theory.
	He actually needs all the pauses and the oomps and the goomps and the noises he makes so you can really get the full impact of this guy and how he's borderline lost it.
	Okay, I want to try it.
	Facebook is good.
	I can't do it.
	Last year you talked about Facebook and the platforms a lot.
	To sort of summarize those questions, do you think the company is doing a better job today?
	Not at all.
	I think Facebook made an important role in getting Trump elected in 2016, and I'm really afraid that he will do the same thing in 2020, because there's nothing really to stop him.
	There is a regulation that exempts social platforms for having any liability Liability for publishing deliberately falsehoods
	by candidates for election.
	There's nothing to stop them.
	And I think there is a kind of an informal mutual assistance operation or agreement developing between Trump and Facebook.
	And Facebook will work to re-elect Trump And Trump will protect.
	Train wreck of the day!
	That's great.
	Wow.
	That's basically Elizabeth Warren's message, only it took him a minute and a half to get it out.
	Minute 52!
	To say nothing.
	But I thought it was necessary to play this.
	So we get the state of the mind of George Soros at Davos.
	It was at Davos.
	Fantastic.
	Now the last clip I have...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I didn't know you wanted to do another one.
	I thought...
	Well, we could end it with that.
	It's fine.
	But you at least want to keep up with the drug tunnel because this is...
	I love this guy.
	He's my favorite reporter.
	He does very accurate news.
	Wait a minute.
	Is it Jeff?
	It's totally Jeff.
	We break for Jeff on this show.
	I hit the wrong Jeff.
	The tunnel runs three quarters of a mile and is the longest ever discovered by U.S. officials.
	It started in Mexico and ran under this part of the newly fortified border into the U.S. We've seen an increase in drug seizures.
	Deputy Chief Aaron Heike says smugglers move everything through the tunnels.
	It's going to be people, it's going to be narcotics, the potential for weapons and ammunition.
	Ten miles away is another key smuggling route for Mexican drug cartels.
	Bordering Tijuana, San Ysidro, California is the busiest port of entry in North America.
	In those buildings on the Mexican side, our sources tell us that sometimes the cartels use spotters to keep track of how the drugs are flowing from Mexico into the U.S. Drug seizures at U.S. borders are way up over the past five years.
	Cocaine seizures have doubled.
	Meth seizures are up nearly 170% in that same time, and fentanyl seizures are up a staggering 3,500%.
	Good.
	Business is good.
	Yeah.
	Well, maybe this is Trump's tunnel.
	We always figured he was going to build a wall so that he could control the drugs in a better manner.
	Well, this might work out.
	It's a nice tunnel.
	It's almost a mile long.
	It's crazy.
	Great-looking tunnel, too.
	It looks like it was done by a pro.
	And your pros of deconstruction will return in just several days from now on Sunday, the 2nd of February, 2020.
	It's going to be a bonanza, I tell you.
	A big bonanza.
	Coming up on noagendastream.com, Nick the Rats celebrating four years in broadcast excellence.
	From the sewer, so catch that if you're loitering on the stream.
	End of show mixes.
	We've got a lot.
	I don't want to get to all of them.
	Ned Jeffrey, Leo Lepuke.
	We've got Roy Connor and his keeper, who helped out there.
	Tom Starkweather, John Benson.
	And, of course, we will return right here, and I will be coming to you from FEMA Region 6 in the governmental maps, Opportunity Zone 33, here in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday.
	We'll see you then.
	Remember, Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself, and adios, mofos!
	and such. Bombshell, bombshell, ba-ba-ba-bombshell. Bombshell.
	Everything's a bombshell.
	The John Bolton absolute bombshell.
	The bombshells about John Bolton.
	All right, so President Trump is denying a bombshell report that claims that he told former National Security Advisor John Bolton to continue freezing aid Ukraine until they launched the political investigations he wanted.
	Bombshell revelations from former National Security Advisor John Bolton.
	This is John Bolton bombshell.
	Bombshell.
	Former National Security Advisor John Bolton.
	With the Bolton testimony of this bombshell about the manuscript.
	And it could be a bombshell.
	An explosive new account from former National Security Advisor John Bolton.
	Bombshell reporting.
	A bombshell.
	This is a bombshell.
	In this bombshell.
	Bombshell.
	Tonight's bombshell report.
	We've got to get back to that bombshell.
	The biggest bombshell.
	The bombshell.
	Bombshell.
	Things are going to drop on my head.
	Bolton's bombshell.
	Bolton drops the bombshell.
	I can't take it anymore.
	Bombshell to death.
	Do you think we can blow up for us?
	Yeah, blow up too.
	Yeah, blow up real good.
	Woo! Woo!
	Woo!
	It's going up good.
	Yeah, he's going up real good.
	I like that.
	The biggest underwriter of IPOs in the U.S. will no longer do business with a company lacking a director who is either a woman or diverse.
	The board must have at least one person who's not white, male, or straight.
	On the board of directors of a Fortune 500 company, we needed underwriters.
	So I called up Goldman Sachs.
	They asked if we had a token.
	Yeah.
	or black woman or trans Your bond needs more diversity To get a loan from me And so I was fired From the board by Goldman Sachs They
	won't do business with me I'm a wider shade of male Who are you going to vote for in primary?
	I think...
	I think I'll probably vote for Bernie.
	What about Bernie?
	How are you doing?
	It's funny how I only briefly mentioned on my podcast that your character's true.
	At least that's the impression that I got from spending just a couple hours with you.
	And afterwards I uploaded the conversation to my channel on YouTube.
	And then I must have spoiled it all by saying something stupid like I'd vote for you.
	Criminical, cramical, look, look, wait.
	You're the leadister.
	Where's my ice cream?
	Ah, thank you.
	Oh, I give them a B+.
	I appreciate a bit more fire and spice.
	There's an audience beyond the Senate.
	And that is John Bolton's politicization of the intelligence he got in Cuba and on other issues.
	Why would we want someone with that lack of credibility?
	I can't understand.
	Clearly, that's what John Bolton represents.
	He would tell in a captivating way that the public would watch.
	The most pernicious part of the president's scheme.
	And his love of conspiracy theories.
	Partly him playing to their base and playing to their audience, you know, the credulous boomer rude demo.
	Look, look, look, wait.
	Conspiracy theories.
	Look, look, wait.
	Hmm.
	I think at the end of the day, it all boils down to this.
	Rick, that was a good one.

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