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	It's a cavalcade, cascade of deplatforming.
	Adam Curry, John C. DeVore.
	And Sunday, December 9th, 2018, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1093.
	This is No Agenda.
	I'm looking for a new deal, and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone, Star State, here in downtown Austin, Tejas, in the Clunio.
	In the morning, everybody!
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I think we should go for Momoa as president.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning!
	Who?
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	Who?
	Yeah, I'm looking at the trades this morning.
	Wait a minute, the trades?
	Do we have trade magazines for podcasting now?
	I guess we do.
	Yeah, the trades.
	The podcast Morning Insider, yes.
	They're going all off on Momoa.
	Best ratings on Saturday Night Live ever.
	Momoa.
	So this guy, yeah, this guy I've never heard of.
	I feel pretty disconnected to popular culture right now.
	Yeah, well, you should.
	Mm-hmm.
	And so this guy, who obviously has a new publicist, he's an actor.
	He's been in a bunch of things.
	It's like he's not a household name by any means, but I guess he is to some people.
	Momoa.
	Momoa.
	Jason Momoa.
	Jason Momoa.
	Alright, so what has he been on that we've...
	Well, I guess he was on an old Stargate.
	Okay.
	The TV series, I think, and I don't know what else.
	Interesting.
	He's a long-haired, kind of hunky guy with a douchebag beard.
	He looks a little bit like our very own Chris Wilson, to be honest, in Australia.
	Oh, does Wilson look like that?
	Yeah, even a little rougher, though.
	Yeah.
	Wilson should be the next Momoa.
	Wilson is the next Momoa, my friend.
	Hands down.
	Somebody's got to get the...
	So he played Ronan Dex on Stargate Atlantis, Khal Drogo in...
	Oh, hello!
	Game of Thrones.
	Oh, Game of Thrones.
	That's why we don't know the guy.
	Yes.
	He's some guy.
	He's probably one of the most famous actors of our time because he's on Game of Thrones.
	Yes, Queen.
	All right, good.
	Next president.
	Fantastic.
	Although I will be coming to you from the future on today's program.
	You have something from the future?
	I do, but not right now.
	I don't want to just dive into it.
	Let's ease into it because I felt this weekend for me was a point, a point de tipping, a tipping point where the M5M, certainly the cable news media, actually became unwatchable for me.
	It was unwatchable.
	I think you're the man from the past.
	You haven't seen that like months ago, but okay.
	I mean, I've really held in for a long time.
	But when the Mueller, whatever, completely unimportant, unrelated, stupid information, the sentencing of Cohen...
	It's like, I mean, the movies, the scenarios, I should say, actually Scott Adams talks about movies, but the scenario that MSNBC and CNN and conversely Fox have concocted, it's just not worth anyone's time anymore.
	It's like, remember when the Malaysian Airlines plane went down and it still hasn't been found yet?
	And I recall watching CNN every day.
	It was wall-to-wall stories about this missing aircraft.
	We had the crazy lady from Singapore who was in China.
	We tracked a lot of it.
	And I remember it was one year.
	They did that story for a year until they finally had to give up on it because people weren't interested anymore.
	And I think we're reaching this point with just this blather and what they've dreamt up.
	It's just...
	Well, if you want to go in that direction...
	Yeah, give me some of that.
	Well, let me go with dreamt up.
	I want to play...
	Because there's two bits in here that I want to keep.
	I've noticed, by the way, I don't want to tell people.
	If you get the Microsoft 365, you get a terabyte of...
	Data.
	It's bacon, baby.
	Data is the new bacon.
	You get a terabyte of bacon.
	You get a terabyte of cloud storage.
	But what's cool about it is I put all the clips on the cloud...
	And the software they're using to do search is so much faster than my desktop software.
	So I can find old clips, I boom, instantly.
	Excellent.
	So I find that, I've always felt that the cloud would be good for that because instead of keeping your stuff on your locals, you know, using the lame search stuff that we have on the desktops, to put it in a big mainframe and let the mainframe crank through this data with indexes.
	And you believe it's being indexed by a mainframe.
	Well, it's probably...
	No, it's obviously a bunch of little servers, but the software they're using is much better than the stuff I have.
	Okay.
	And this is Microsoft's cloud?
	Yeah, Microsoft's cloud.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't use it.
	Acronis has a cloud, too, that I thought they were going to be doing more of this sort of thing.
	But let's listen to Brooks.
	Ah, Brooks and Shields!
	Shields and Brooks.
	And he's got two predictions in here that I'm going to...
	I wrote this out to be really long so I can look it up later.
	But he's got two predictions in here based on what you just said about this crazy scenario they've dreamed up.
	What do we think it adds up to?
	What does it tell us?
	These guys are not very good cooperators.
	If you're going to cooperate, cooperate.
	But Manafort's going to jail probably for the rest of his life, and Cohen's getting a healthy sentence because he sort of semi-cooperated, something like that.
	But I think what we're seeing is the pace ramp up on a lot of fronts.
	They're clearly interested in more contacts than we knew with Russia in 2015 with the campaign, the so-called synergy they apparently found, and then especially the business dealings, the Trump's dealings in Moscow.
	Right.
	And my instinct is that there's going to be a lot more investigation to business than there is to Russia collusion.
	There's just a lot more there.
	And the other sense you get is a lot of Republicans are looking at this White House and they're seeing an administration under a lot of judicial and legal threat and a lot under political threat.
	And they see a White House Counsel's Office that is denuded of authority and people.
	And then what they call the membrane around Trump is frailing.
	And the membrane is the group of people they put around Trump to protect him from himself.
	And over the years, the Hope Hicks' of the world and maybe in the next few days the John Kellys of the world are going and gone.
	And so you see a Trump unprotected from himself.
	And you're beginning to see a lot of Republicans who are looking seriously at 2019 with a lot of Fridays like this one.
	And Trump...
	You know, really hurting himself and maybe not serving out the term.
	Not serving out the term.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is the Lib Show's dream come true.
	And you know what's happening?
	I was listening to Dutch news radio over the weekend.
	Actually, Saturday, Tina had some non-profit work to do, and so I'm just listening to this.
	If she's around, she won't understand it.
	And every journalist that came on, it's as if they sat at home and had their morning coffee and watched MSNBC, you know, because they can get that over there.
	They can, they can, and you don't even need to have MSNBC to get this story.
	And then they go on the air and, and just like, oh, oh my God, he'll never serve out his term.
	And, and of course they like to pronounce Trump as thrump.
	So all you hear is this, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump, thrump.
	And it's the same delusion.
	It's just delusionary.
	I think it's also delusional to think that Manafort is going to be sentenced to life in prison.
	For his financial crimes.
	Yeah, well, we don't have to go through it again.
	The only thing, as far as I can see, that maybe, maybe, maybe is out there is somehow illegal campaign contribution due to the payoff of the stripper and the other spokesmodel.
	We should mention, by the way, if you're going to bring that up, somebody did bring this up in a tweet, and I thought it was something to bring up.
	John Edwards, who ran for vice president, took illegal campaign contributions up to the tune of a million dollars to give to his girlfriend.
	His side piece.
	That's right.
	And all you pay is a fine and then it's done.
	He didn't get any other punishment besides a fine, did he?
	I don't even know he got a fine.
	Every campaign makes mistakes like that.
	The Obama campaign had money that they took incorrectly.
	It's all kinds of stuff.
	But that doesn't matter.
	It's in these people's heads.
	Delusional is the right word.
	Because I kind of soft-pedaled it as incredible wishful thinking, but at the point that it is now, I would say delusional is the probably correct term.
	Yeah, I mean, just from a legal standpoint.
	Argue this from a legal standpoint.
	It's just not there.
	But that's the way it is.
	Comey testified.
	James Comey.
	And as per his wishes, he released the entire transcript of his behind-closed-doors testimony.
	It was released, I think, almost the same day.
	250 pages of stuff.
	Some of it's redacted.
	A lot of I can't recalls.
	That's always my favorite.
	I think somebody counted 57 or 72.
	Oh, no, no.
	I heard it was 250 times.
	That's what I heard.
	Well, it's quite a long document.
	One of our producers did pull out an interesting quote, as a lot of people have been going through this.
	Let's see.
	Ratcliffe asks Comey.
	I'll just do this one paragraph here.
	All right.
	So I guess I tried to summarize what I've heard today.
	Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information more than 100 times.
	She made false statements about it.
	The FBI was aware that at least one of her aides also mishandled classified information.
	And one of the folks employed on behalf of Secretary Clinton intentionally destroyed evidence known to be subject to a congressional subpoena and preservation order and lied to the FBI about it.
	And on July 5th, 2016, you stood.
	You, sir.
	Stood.
	Before the American people and said that neither you nor any reasonable prosecutor would bring any charges in this fact pattern.
	Is that accuracy?
	Is that accurate?
	Mr.
	Comey's reply?
	Yep.
	I believed it then.
	I believe it now.
	And anybody that thinks we were on Team Clinton trying to cut her a break is smoking something.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	See, it's too bad we don't have audio of that because that would have been much better.
	I agree with Jim Comey.
	Why couldn't it have been out in the open?
	Well, I think it's because everyone's showboating and it's probably embarrassing for everyone.
	Exactly.
	Very embarrassing.
	So now we have a new pick for the Attorney General, William Barr.
	I guess he goes by Bill Barr.
	They call him Bill, like Robert Mueller as Bob Mueller.
	I don't know.
	The stuff I heard was William.
	I like Bill Barr.
	Bill Barr, good morning, everybody.
	How you doing?
	He doesn't look very...
	I think, you know, turns out he worked for the CIA. Didn't he work for Papa Bush?
	Yeah, as his attorney general, which was like, what, 100 years ago, and now the guy's still up for another attorney general's job after Clinton and Bush Jr.
	and everybody in between?
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	He was born in 1950.
	So he was young at the time then.
	Yeah, he'd be in his 40s.
	Well, 1950, so he'd be in his...
	Yeah.
	It's got to be 60s.
	Late 60s.
	Yeah, it's got to be mid-60s.
	We could probably figure it out if we did the math.
	Yeah, gosh, if we actually took a pen to paper.
	Wikipedia is not helping.
	One, two, three.
	Usually they put it in parents.
	Yeah, it's not there.
	I'm looking for it.
	It's like, why didn't they give me an age here?
	Yeah, and height.
	68.
	There's no height there.
	Here is...
	Okay, so it was interesting.
	I think the pick was made public when Bush's train was doing the tour or whenever part of the funeral procession, which I also did not watch.
	So it was kind of an interesting timing to choose that.
	But this guy himself is...
	I mean, I'm not quite sure why the president picked him.
	Here's Greg Jarrett on Fox Business News, because he's, of course, reported on this guy in the past, and here we go.
	The president has a duty to direct the attorney general what to do, what not to do.
	This whole notion of independence is a canard that's been peddled for 40 years.
	Now, as for William Barr...
	I'm sort of of two minds, yes.
	Unquestionable integrity, a fine reputation, great experience.
	He brings gravitas to the job, but he is an establishment figure at a time when I... What is gravitas?
	You know, gravitas is interesting because it's a term they tried to use.
	They tried to push this term.
	On Obama?
	No, no.
	Way before that.
	The first time I saw them trying to push this term was when Clinton was running for the president for the first time.
	Hillary or Bill?
	Bill.
	This goes way back.
	This stemmed from the original Governor Cuomo.
	Yeah.
	The old man who was going to run for president when George Bush was up for a second term, but he decided not to because he figured he's going to get reelected.
	So Clinton got in, and that was the end of Cuomo's political career for good because he made a mistake because he would have been the shoe-in, it seems.
	But they dropped this term into the public domain, the left-wing media.
	Which is what I'm going to call it.
	Gravitas.
	And they kept talking, referring to Cuomo as being the best candidate because he has gravitas.
	Gravitas.
	And they kept hounding us with his word gravitas.
	Then it disappeared completely and now they're trying to revitalize it.
	Gravitas.
	High-seriousness.
	Is the Merriam-Webster definition dignity, seriousness, or solemnity of manner?
	Yeah.
	I think once they've rediscovered it, which you just pointed out, I think they're going to go hard with it because it's just the opposite of Trump.
	Well, we always try to be gravitorial on this show.
	I've always tried to have gravity so I don't fly out of the room.
	I'm a toss to the job, but he is an establishment figure at a time when I think we need a disruptor as Attorney General.
	Somebody who would vigorously go after corrupt officials at the FBI and Department of Justice who were abusing their positions of power and attempting to undermine democracy.
	I'm afraid Barr is not that guy.
	Oh.
	He's not...
	That was a good setup.
	I'm like, oh, he's not that guy.
	So on PBS, they had the woman, the black woman, who's one that's...
	I think she's...
	She seems sweet, but she seems incompetent.
	It's a shame because there's so many experienced black people that could be...
	This isn't a Gwen replacement, is it?
	It's the Gwen replacement.
	It's the Alcindor woman.
	So they keep giving her different assignments, which she still doesn't carry out very well because she doesn't present well.
	She can't enunciate like a PBS person should, which is old network style.
	But they had her do rundowns on all these different people that Trump's talking about replacing one person with another.
	And she did one on William Barr's summer.
	And you can listen to her point of view.
	Because I think she did a lot of research.
	She talked to a lot of people.
	I think this is actually, she did a pretty good job, except her presentation skills are still lousy.
	William Barr summary, we can hear her version.
	Shake-up.
	So Yamiche, let's talk first about the president's pick to be attorney general.
	when there's an acting attorney general but Bob Barr Robert Barr who has been our sorry William Barr who served in the administration of President Bush George HW Bush is now being asked by President Trump to become Attorney General what do we know about him what we know is that William Barr is looked at as a respected attorney and that Democrats and Republicans today signal that they could get behind him and support him as Attorney General I I want to walk you through who William Barr is.
	From 1991 to 1993, he was Attorney General for the late former President George H.W. Bush.
	He was, however, involved in the controversial Iran contrapardons.
	He formerly worked for the CIA in the 1970s, and he was an executive at...
	Don probably knows him really well.
	Maybe.
	He probably does.
	Hello, Don didn't cover up Bush's ass during Iran-Contra, so I'm sure they know each other.
	Iran-Contra pardons.
	He formerly worked for the CIA in the 1970s, and he was an executive at Verizon.
	He is now practicing law in Washington, D.C. People that I talked to today told me that he's an establishment Republican.
	This is not someone who's a Trump loyalist.
	The president has filled, at times, the cabinet members and the White House with people who are loyal to him personally.
	But this is someone that someone like Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz, another Republican, had they become president, might have picked for their attorney general.
	I'm also told that he is someone who has had some past comments that are controversial on special investigations and special counsel.
	I want to read you something from the New York Times.
	On November 14, 2017, the New York Times published an article where they said, quote, Mr.
	Barr said he sees more basis for investigating the Clinton-Uranium deal than any supposed collusion between Mr.
	Trump and Russia.
	And Mr.
	Barr told the New York Times, to the extent it is not pursuing these matters, the department is abdicating its responsibility.
	So to be clear, Mr.
	Barr is saying that Hillary Clinton might need to be investigated some more.
	He's also said that it's okay for presidents to specifically ask for investigations to happen under the DOJ. So this guy is, in essence, a veteran of the deep state.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I think he's definition of a veteran of the deep state.
	I mean, holy moly.
	But still, it seems odd that Iran...
	Well, no, I guess he just...
	No, 68.
	Okay, it makes sense.
	He was young, though, back in the day.
	Yeah, he must have been a go-getter.
	Yamiche Leone Alcindor has quite the resume, including winning the award named after, or not named after, a tribute to Gwen Ifill, who passed away, the Syracuse University Toner Prize.
	She's been, you know, New York Times.
	She's been around.
	She has cred.
	Yeah, as a writer.
	Oh, well, hello.
	Hello.
	Of course.
	Don't get me started on the television.
	I mean, that's our job.
	But it's okay.
	No one ever asks us our opinion.
	We know it works.
	They do ask us our opinion, actually.
	But nobody...
	No one asks us our opinion about the television presentation.
	No one asks us our opinion about stuff that we're very knowledgeable about.
	Oh, okay.
	Exactly.
	They ask us our opinion about, hey, what do you think of Trump?
	Do you think Trump's a douchebag?
	What do you think of Trump?
	That's our opinion.
	Well, we don't know we have an opinion.
	I was watching, I think we talked about this, Pluto TV, which shows up on the Roku box.
	I love Pluto TV. Yeah, you get some good streaming stuff.
	And before you go on, I'm going to give you a pet peeve of mine.
	Okay.
	So I got Pluto TV. It's on the Roku.
	People should get it.
	It's got all kinds of cool stuff.
	Have you watched the cat channel?
	I saw it and I did not stop.
	I went past.
	You put the cat channel on in a crowd of people, you're stuck there for hours.
	You know, it seems, that actually seems like a really good idea, considering the popularity of cats on the internet and considering that you don't deal with agents, you know, there's no residuals to these cats.
	I mean, it's a great, it's a money maker.
	Okay.
	It's Hours of cat videos.
	I mean, I did watch for a moment the channel where these young kids go out and they shoot an arrow with a rope across a canyon and then they just swing on the rope.
	Have you seen this channel?
	Oh, it makes me nauseous.
	But I'll watch the cat channel.
	That sounds fantastic.
	By the way, you'll love the cat channel.
	Even if you don't like cats, you'll love the channel.
	The Pluto channel, you put it on, they got all these different mini-networks, and it loads, and you hit one, boom, it comes up.
	Xfinity has got Xfinity streaming beta.
	Xfinity streaming, nothing comes up.
	You click on it, and you wait.
	If you wait long enough, sometimes up to 10 minutes, the channel will appear.
	Yeah.
	And then if you happen to, like, try to play a channel, and it's spinning and spinning, and you're waiting for it to appear, it doesn't...
	And you say, I'm sick of waiting, and you try to turn it off, boom!
	It blows up the Roku box and reboots it.
	Reboots it.
	It is a piece of unbelievable, unrelenting crap.
	Hey, man!
	Why don't they buy the technology from the Pluto channel?
	Yeah.
	Hey man, that's what net neutrality is all about, man.
	It's like they're getting throttled somewhere, bro.
	So I'm watching the Pluto app.
	And so, you know, RT, Sky News, there's one or two other odd ones, but that's really what I was going for.
	I think MSNBC's on there.
	No, CBSN. CBSN is on there?
	Oh, CBSN, right.
	Yes, CBSN. So, because, you know, I gave up.
	I gave up on the M5N, so off we go to Pluto.
	There's nothing in between, apparently.
	This is where you have to go.
	Pluto.
	I went to Pluto TV. But RT was doing a really good job of covering what was happening in Paris.
	Holy moly.
	And make no mistake.
	I got an email from somebody saying that only RT is covering it.
	I told you there was some rumors about the BBC having been issued a denotis, and not just BBC, of course, it'd be everybody, but there's not a lot of reporting on it, and what I saw was exactly what you'd expect from a color revolution.
	Now, you have to really watch the screen and see that it's not all people with yellow jackets, but there's also people with yellow jackets with a, you know, with a baklava on who are ruining stuff.
	You know, again, they're smashing into the Apple store, stealing all this stuff in the Apple store, which is just about the stupidest thing you can do.
	Children, when you're LARPing around and you want to go steal something from the Apple store because your other LARPing friends broke the window and we were in and you just grab it all and take it home.
	You better not be hooking that crap up to the Internet because the Apple police will find you very, very quickly.
	I don't care what you can give it to somebody else, it's going to come back to you.
	These things are completely loaded.
	They know exactly where these boxes are.
	There's a million ways for them to find it.
	Don't steal that.
	And I saw they ran into a golfing store, a golf sporting goods store, got a whole bunch of golf clubs, ran outside, started smashing the window with the golf clubs.
	I don't think this has a lot to do with the climate change tax anymore.
	There is a genuine, very unhappy feeling.
	I think maybe the Marrakesh Agreement, which should be signed today or tomorrow, that may have something to do with it.
	And so that sadly brings us right back to migration.
	But it looks more and more like a color revolution.
	It's set up that way with the yellow jackets.
	It's now in Belgium.
	They were in Brussels.
	They were trying to, you know, at the European Parliament.
	They're in Amsterdam.
	They're in Rotterdam.
	It's happening everywhere, and as long as the M5M doesn't give it too much attention, it might not catch fire.
	I think that's what the thinking is.
	I think that's exactly what the thinking is.
	RT is the only network, as much as people like to condemn them, at least they're covering this, and they're covering it well.
	Yes.
	Although it's kind of funny, in the French newspapers...
	And now they're saying, oh, Le Parisien, which is a Parisian newspaper to be specific, looks like possible foreign interference going on with these Yellow Jacket protests, and you know who they peg right away.
	Russia?
	Yes!
	That's where RT's covering it.
	But this was the Parisien, though.
	Yeah.
	Oh, it must be Russia.
	They have proof.
	Show the proof.
	I don't think they have any proof at all.
	None whatsoever.
	But yeah, this is the major cover-up in the news.
	And even Democracy Now!
	is not covering it.
	No, you mean especially not Democracy Now!
	Especially not them!
	Yeah, they would definitely not want to cover it because of the climate thing.
	Yeah.
	Well, this does kind of bring...
	So nobody's covering.
	So this is the great news systems that we have.
	Yeah.
	And they can't cover this.
	And it's exciting riots.
	There's nothing more exciting than riots like this.
	What's interesting is that Tina asked me yesterday, what do you think?
	When is this going to happen here?
	I said, it doesn't happen here.
	That's not how we work.
	We only do that kind of stuff when our favorite sports team wins.
	Then we do that kind of stuff.
	We don't do it out of anger or anything.
	No, we take to Twitter.
	We don't actually go on the street.
	We sublimate.
	Yeah, sublimate.
	We don't actually go out and do something about it.
	No, no, no.
	You just bitch about it online and then you go, my job is done.
	My work is done here.
	Okay, this brings me to a little report from the future.
	It's a little presentation I put together for us.
	And this really comes down to conversations we've had about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
	And I believe she's a force to be reckoned with.
	This is not about the merits of what she says, although it's always fun to stop and chuckle about how entertaining the things are that she says, because they clearly are not entirely based in reality, and some are just funny, but...
	She has a following.
	She has a movement.
	I'm seeing the kids like it.
	We're talking...
	She looks like an actress who should be starring in Hamilton.
	Well, she's going to star on the big stage.
	This is just the beginning.
	Unless Nancy Pelosi cuts her off dramatically, which I don't think she's going to do...
	Because the support is garnering, I think she already has almost 25 Democrats who have signed up to her Green New Deal!
	And I figured I might as well look into this Green New Deal and understand what it is they're talking about.
	She has all the millennials following her.
	They love her.
	And imagine this.
	You're born in, let's say, 1990s, make it an easy millennial number.
	You grow up hearing one thing consistently.
	You're going to die from climate change.
	Now, seriously.
	Not like you and I, who've been around, who have seen the old articles, we're going to die because it was too cold, and in 10 years, we'll all be gone, the planet will be obliterated.
	So we witnessed all this not happening, which is kind of fun.
	We witnessed it not happening.
	We remembered.
	But when you grow up a kid, And your parents are also, you know, kind of not really engaged in climate science or climate truth.
	Just like, oh yeah, yeah, climate change, big problem.
	Then all you hear is the grown-ups talking about how horrible and death and destruction.
	We've talked about this.
	It's having an impact.
	And these are the children who grew up with this and have been impacted and believe it.
	So I can't fault them at all.
	It seems, in fact, I would say...
	If I was the evil genius behind climate change, global warming, all the mega bucks associated with it, I would probably want this to be the outcome.
	Here come the freshmen.
	Here come the new kids.
	They're in their 20s, and they're all in on this stuff.
	And it's spilling over everywhere.
	Here is the Intercept podcast.
	Just a short little clip.
	Well, I think, you know, on some level it remains to be seen, but the kind of basic tenets of it are that we could have shorter work weeks.
	We could have a functional mass transit system for folks who live in New York, the MTA. Just so you understand, this is what...
	The Millennials believe fixing climate change will do.
	And she is specifically talking about the Green New Deal, GND. And this is what she believes putting this Grand New Deal in place will achieve.
	Well, I think, you know, on some level it remains to be seen.
	But the kind of basic tenets of it are that we could have shorter work weeks.
	We could have a functional mass transit system for folks who live in New York.
	The NTA could actually work, maybe.
	Beautiful, affordable, rent-controlled public housing, you know, a job where our bosses aren't screwing us over.
	Sort of any number of things you can imagine, Medicare for all, can sort of fit under this green umbrella.
	And most importantly, the planet wouldn't be burning around us and sort of baking us all into a healthy future.
	It's baking us all!
	So, the way I'd like to do this is indeed, let's mock and laugh at everything they say, because, well, there may be some validity to their thinking that the Green New Deal will solve all these problems, but it sounded like this was solving everything the Democratic Socialists of America want.
	They always want mass transit to get people out of their cars, to ruin their independence.
	Get off your horse.
	You have to get on a bus.
	Get on a bus.
	And in San Francisco, of course, or in most metropolitan areas, you have situations, probably not as bad as San Francisco, where there's beatings on the bus.
	People are pooping on the bus.
	Everyone thinks they're a loser if they're on the bus.
	As long as we can all poop on the bus, then it's okay.
	As long as it's intersectional pooping.
	As long as we can all poop on the bus, it's okay.
	So I'm just showing this to give you a little example.
	I started watching TYT. I think it's also the Young Turks is a force to be reckoned with in this arena.
	And the people are getting on there and they're talking about it and it's starting to move.
	We have this movement called the Sunrise Movement.
	Uh-oh.
	Yes.
	The Sunrise Movement is...
	It doesn't really belong to anyone according to their website.
	There's no...
	Well, yes.
	On the About Us, there's not...
	Now, if you...
	It says donate...
	And that'll take you to the ActBlue website, which is really, that's not an outfit that does anything per se, but they're kind of a clearinghouse for these type of operations.
	Yeah, it's like Patreon for these sorts of things.
	Yeah, Patreon, another thing we've got to talk about.
	So here is one of the, what is her name?
	Vashini Prakash, and she's on with Chunk on The Young Turks, just to talk about the Green New Deal and the Sunrise Movement, just to give you a little background.
	And these are not stupid people.
	They've just been incredibly misinformed from the minute they took their first breath on this earth.
	Yeah, they've been propagandized, and this is how it works.
	So Sunrise Movement is working to build an army of young people to stop climate change and create millions of good jobs for our generation.
	We see ourselves as working to actually transform the outrage and frustration that young people have felt at witnessing so much political stagnation and inaction on the issue of climate change for our entire lives.
	We've known about the issue of climate change twice as long as I've even been alive on this planet.
	You see, you see, you understand what's happening with these kids now and have yet to do something meaningful about it.
	So we are really working at the nexus of protest organizing, protest demonstrations, organizations, things that really help us get our story out into the public and getting people and politicians paying attention to the crisis at hand and combining that with some hard-nosed political and electoral organizing.
	But we have completely altered, young people across this country have altered what is politically possible and feasible in this country on the issue of climate change.
	Three weeks ago, I was seeing headlines that said, Dems damp down hopes on climate for next Congress cycle.
	And now I'm seeing headlines like, climate change tops democratic agenda for 2019, 2020 and beyond.
	That is unbelievable to me.
	And it happened because thousands of young people We've started organizing, calling for the real solutions to the climate crisis like a Green New Deal.
	We've done hundreds of office visits to congressional politicians asking them to support Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's select committee for a Green New Deal that would create a plan at the true scale and scope of the climate crisis.
	So young people are energized.
	We are motivated.
	We understand what is at stake with the drought-induced wildfires that have been destroying California and the West Coast.
	The IPCC report that came out saying that we have 12 years to radically transform our economy and society to protect human civilization as we know it is.
	Young people are with it, and we are also ready to take action.
	And I believe that.
	I believe that they are ready to take action.
	Do you want to say something?
	No, I mean, you know, the thing is, there's all these little zingers that they keep throwing in there like...
	The little phrase he used, create millions of good jobs.
	Oh yeah, well...
	What?
	Name one!
	So this comes from the actual document, which I took the trouble to go get and mark up a little bit, from the congressional website for Alexandria Ocasio, Cortez.
	She indeed is calling for a select committee for a Green New Deal.
	And this was interesting.
	It's not just a couple pages.
	I marked up a few things.
	I've never really looked into how committees work and how they're put together, what a select committee even means.
	What we do know is that to be on a committee, you have to pay millions of dollars into the party coffers, and that's how you get on.
	We've discussed this in great length.
	And sometimes, you know, a chairmanship can be, what, five million bucks or something you've got to bring into the party coffers.
	Yeah, you have to get that.
	That goes to the party.
	So the select committee, I didn't realize it, but a select committee for a Green New Deal means that the Speaker of the House actually selects the 15 members that are being proposed here.
	So that would be Nancy Pelosi, and it will be nine of the majority, and it will be six of the opposition.
	It will have legislative jurisdiction, this select committee which Ocasio AOC is promoting.
	And the select committee shall have the authority to develop a detailed national industrial economic mobilization plan to be known as the Green New Deal for the transition of the United States economy to become carbon neutral and to significantly draw down and capture greenhouse gases from the environment.
	So we're going to have leaders from business, labor, state, local governments, and academia will be involved in this Green New Deal.
	They can bring in research institutions.
	And everything they do will have been planned and executed in no longer than 10 years from the start of this plan, which would be in 2020.
	And that kind of comes down to the 12 years you just heard about, the 10 years.
	By 2030, we have to have everything fixed.
	We have to be completely off fossil fuels, otherwise we all die.
	Then they're going to create...
	So by January 1st, 2020, they'll have their complete plan.
	Then they'll have legislation they're going to draw up by March.
	And they will also have investigative jurisdiction, which is a big groan for me because that just means they're going to do more studies.
	Funding!
	I'll get to that in a second.
	Let me go to the...
	Here we go.
	Scope.
	Here we go.
	The scope of the plan for a Green New Deal and the draft legislation.
	And there has a number of points here.
	In each case, no longer than 10 years from the start of the execution of the plan, 100% of national power generation will be from renewable sources.
	100% within 10 years.
	There will be built a national, energy efficient, smart grid, whatever that means.
	That means you can shut it down remotely from China.
	Bingo.
	We'll upgrade every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort, and safety.
	Decarbonizing the manufacturing, agricultural, and other industries.
	I don't know how you can decarbonize agricultural industry, but okay.
	Funding.
	Massive investment in the drawdown and capture of greenhouse gases, which I find to be an interesting choice of words.
	They have some frequently asked questions, and this was my favorite.
	So here's one of their facts.
	Why do we need a sweeping Green New Deal investment program?
	Why can't we just rely on regulations and taxes alone, such as a carbon tax or an eventual ban on fossil fuels?
	And the answer is, regulations, taxes can indeed change some behavior.
	It's a certain possibility to argue that if we had put in place targeted regulations...
	Oh, why'd my printer cut this off, dammit?
	I'm sorry.
	My printer cut off the right side of the page.
	Yeah, climate change.
	There you go.
	Well, then I'll just go straight to the B here, since I can't read it here.
	Why should the government have a big role in driving and making any required investments?
	Why not just incentivize the private sector?
	And they say two things here.
	Two main reasons.
	Scale and time.
	First, scale.
	The level of investment required will be massive!
	And even if all the billionaires and companies came together and were willing to pour their resources, put the resources at their disposal into this investment, the aggregate value of the investments they could make would not be sufficient.
	For example, the $1 trillion over 10 years plan for investment in the green economy that has been floated by some policymakers has been criticized by climate experts as only as wholly inadequate.
	$1 trillion is the entire market cap of Amazon.
	Think about that!
	So they're going to need a lot more, they think.
	And second, time.
	So you just heard scale, the level of investment required will be massive.
	Time.
	The speed of investment required will be massive!
	I think they just copy-pasted.
	Even all the billionaires and the companies could make the investments required.
	They would not be able to pull together a coordinated response in the narrow window of time required to jumpstart major new products, projects, and major new sectors.
	So it's massive investment, massive time.
	It's all just massive.
	And how will the government pay for these investments?
	Well, many will say, massive government investment?
	How in the world will we pay for this?
	The answer is, in the same way we paid for the 2008 bank bailout and extended quantitative easing programs.
	The same ways we paid for World War II and many other wars.
	The Federal Reserve can extend credit to power these projects and investments.
	New public banks can be created, as in World War II, to extend credit, and a combination of various taxation tools, including taxes on carbon and other emissions and progressive wealth taxes, can be employed.
	So, they just say, in fine American tradition, print up the money!
	What?
	I give them credit.
	It's just unbelievable.
	I give them credit for knowing how the system works.
	Kind of knowing how it works.
	Now, this Green New Deal is not new.
	The exact same deal popped up, oh, seven years ago with Obama.
	And today we're going to look at the Green New Deal.
	Well, President Obama has embraced the idea of a green stimulus package, pledging some $150 billion of investments in low-carbon infrastructure in order to create jobs.
	Gordon Brown has also espoused a Green New Deal.
	In his case, it's to also boost employment with eco-friendly transport and renewables at the heart of his strategy.
	So are we going to see a rush to green investing?
	After all, the returns last year were relatively poor.
	And if business takes the money, will it be able to actually deliver the reduction in CO2 emissions that the world is now demanding?
	So it was about a $150 billion try that we did that didn't seem to go anywhere.
	I didn't hear of any great successes.
	Did you?
	No.
	All I heard is that they got worse.
	A marginalized Kleiner Perkins as an investment company.
	That's right.
	Because, you know, they brought in Al Gore and the next thing you know, they're throwing money at stupid green projects.
	They lost their shirts.
	They lost their shirts on that.
	Yeah.
	And this was the same era that this is when Nancy Pelosi was the Speaker of the House the last time.
	And that's where that jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs thing comes from that we've been using on the show for the last eight years.
	And they presented this kind of proposal that was going to pass, and Gohmert called it, you know, the piece of turd or something like that in front of it.
	Really?
	Gohmert did that?
	Gohmert has some comment.
	And the thing never – it was passed and it had all this legislation about how you have to build your home a certain way and you have to have insulation or you get fined.
	There's all these things.
	And it was this huge package that the Senate just said no.
	And that was the end of it, which is what's going to happen with these guys.
	And it's like the Senate goes, no, we're not going to do this.
	And by the way, the Senate was dominated by Democrats at the time.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, just before the weekend, there was a town hall.
	And the town hall was hosted mainly by Bernie Sanders, who is very much with the young kids still, the millennials.
	They all love him.
	Bernie's all on that popular tip.
	And they brought on guests, many guests, including our girl, AOC, from the DSA. Hey!
	But they started off with a little video, again, just setting the stage so you understand how kids today feel about it.
	But listen to what she's saying, and this really confirms my point, not only as to what these kids grew up with, why they're thinking that way, but there's a nice little gimme in here.
	My name is Marcella.
	I'm 21 years old and I was born and raised in South Florida.
	Growing up, dealing with hurricanes was a regular occurrence for me and my family.
	I remember being really little and feeling afraid because sometimes my dad would have to work during a storm.
	But it wasn't until my family moved to Fort Lauderdale, Florida that I really became closely acquainted with the devastating impacts of sea level rise.
	We moved somewhere that's sometimes called the Venice of America and it's well known for its beautiful waterways and coasts.
	My family was lucky enough to live just one block away from the beach.
	But when we moved, I started to notice that every time a storm would hit, the street in front of my apartment would flood.
	And sometimes it would flood even when it wasn't raining.
	Local businesses would have to put out sandbags to stop the water from coming into the shores.
	My parents would have to move the cars up to higher ground for parking.
	It was this weird dystopia where regular people were being forced to become experts in the ocean's tidal patterns and sea level rise.
	On really bad days, the entrance to my apartment building would be blocked off from flooding.
	At the time, I didn't know that any of this had to do with something called global climate change or sea level rise.
	I just knew that this was an everyday part of my family's life.
	Then I went to college and I learned that my personal experiences with flooding and with hurricanes were just warning signs of more drastic changes to come for Florida and for the rest of the world.
	So, ahem.
	Thank you.
	When she went to college, that's when she learned that she was going to die from this ugly climate change.
	That's where they taught her.
	Because you're living on the beachfront property, and then during a storm you get a little flooding, which has probably been going on since the 1800s.
	Well, they call it the Venice of Florida.
	So yeah, this has been a problem since before she was born.
	But once she got to college, that's when she was told what this all was about.
	And that's what these kids are growing up with.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I think this is a very good point you're making.
	Now we get into...
	It's depressing.
	Normally we put depressing stuff like this at the end of the show so everyone's bummed out and they don't donate.
	So we do the depressing stuff up front.
	We do a happy-go-lucky at the end so people donate.
	We're switching it up, John.
	Just going crazy with the format today.
	Anything, anything.
	Anything to help.
	Here we go to the roundtable.
	Bernie is, of course, he's, you know, the conversation is about the report that was released that was, you know, covered up.
	And, you know, does the question here really is, does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have, you know, does she have the solutions here?
	Is she right?
	Oh, and I might want to point out that on this panel is also Van Jones.
	Van Jones...
	Well, you'll recall, he was the green czar of the Obama administration.
	Yeah.
	He was the guy who brought in the Green Deal initially and got ousted because...
	It was actually weird.
	I think he was associated with some odd people.
	In other words, he actually...
	Was all in on 9-11, like 9-11 inside job, boom!
	Out of the Obama administration.
	Yeah, you can't have that.
	Let me see.
	I got a link here.
	What exactly did they accuse him of?
	It was, Jones was under fire for his past affiliation with 9-11 conspiracy truthers.
	I'm reading this from a 2009 article.
	And for calling Republicans assholes in a video before he was appointed to the Obama administration.
	Republicans then also began using him to escalate criticism of the administration's deployment of czars, you recall those days, across the policy landscape, saying they were being used to avoid Senate scrutiny of appointees.
	But more problematic was the fact that Jones's controversial statements fit snugly into the narrative woven by some conservative critics of Obama as a dangerous leftist, dangerous leftist, a critique that goes back to the campaign and was based on much of his past work as a community organizer with associations of the likes of Jeremiah Wright and William Ayer.
	So there was a lot going on when Van Jones got kicked out and he had to fall on his I remember it well.
	We were doing the show.
	So he's on this, and he of course is weaseling in on the action.
	That's why he's got a show on CNN again.
	It's all coming around.
	The Grand New Deal.
	Is President Trump right?
	That's a hard one.
	I want you to think about it before you respond.
	Or is there, in fact, ideas out there?
	That would enable us to create millions of good-paying jobs.
	Now, this was your question, John.
	Millions of good-paying jobs.
	Let's get to the bottom of it.
	Just stick with the program!
	It's unsurprising that the response to any bold proposal that...
	Let's not mock her for her voice.
	Let's just bathe in it.
	It's like a bath of razor blades.
	But I have to say, and again, I'm just looking at the media personality here.
	The girl's got it.
	She's got everything you want.
	You can hate her.
	You can love her.
	It's all in there.
	And the voice cuts through.
	Some may call it piercing.
	It cuts through.
	It's unsurprising that the response to any bold proposal that we have is to incite fear.
	Yeah.
	By the way, I just have to say that it's crazy about how everyone, especially the Republicans and the President, they incite fear.
	But that's exactly what she's doing, even in these words.
	To any bold proposal that we have is to incite fear.
	To incite fear of loss, to incite fear of others, to incite fear of our future.
	But the only way we are going to get out of this situation is by choosing to be courageous.
	Woo!
	That's the only way we're going to get out of this.
	And first of all, it's just plain wrong.
	The idea that we're going to somehow lose economic activity, as a matter of fact, it's not just possible that we will create jobs and economic activity by transitioning to renewable energy, but it's inevitable.
	That we are going to create jobs.
	It's inevitable that we're going to create industry.
	And it's inevitable that we can use the transition to 100% renewable energy as the vehicle to truly deliver and establish economic, social, and racial justice in the United States of America.
	That is our proposal.
	And that is what we are here to do.
	Because in the depths of darkness, in the depths of despair, which what we last saw...
	Now listen, this is really important.
	What are you doing?
	You're rummaging around?
	You're dropping stuff?
	Are you...
	Just keep playing.
	She's now going to give us a little history lesson.
	For a second, I couldn't figure out what she was talking about.
	This is where she connects the Green New Deal to FDR's New Deal.
	...of America.
	That is our proposal, and that is what we are here to do, because in the depths of darkness, in the depths of despair, which what we last saw, when we think about where we were when the New Deal was established, we were a nation in depression, in Great Depression.
	We were a nation on the brink of war.
	We saw the rise of fascism creeping across in Europe, and no one would thought that a nation so poor, so scarce, and in such dire straits as we were in that time, could pursue such a bold economic agenda.
	But we chose to do it anyway.
	We had the courage to do it anyway.
	I'm going to ask you in a minute.
	And that is what this moment demands of us right now.
	That's what we have to do.
	This is going to be the great society, the moonshot, the civil rights movement of our generation.
	That is the scale.
	That is the scale of the ambition that this movement is going to require.
	So, what she's saying here, this is the moonshot, which, by the way, it would just be easier to make a video about how great you are with the Green New Deal and just put it out there and pretend we did it, just like the moonshot.
	It'll be like FDR's New Deal.
	Is this indeed like FDR's New Deal?
	What was FDR's New Deal?
	John C. Dvorak.
	I don't know if I could put it in a nutshell.
	It was a reorganization of the country somewhat and also putting people to work and make work jobs like the WPA, Work Projects Administration, the Civilian Conservation Corps.
	If you look at it objectively, the New Deal didn't even work.
	It kept us in a depression longer than we should have been in one.
	Oh, really?
	I've not heard that one yet.
	Oh, you'll hear it if you just look around enough.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	This woman is crazy.
	We were in a poor, starving, skinny little country.
	That's what she's saying.
	When Roosevelt got in office, we were in a depression, yeah.
	That's what she's saying.
	She says we were in a depression.
	She makes it sound like we're a third world country.
	Thanks to the New Deal, we got out of that.
	Well, just remember, this is a millennial.
	When she thinks...
	Depression, all she knows about the Depression, because of course she hasn't read up on it, is the black and white photo of the men standing in line for jobs, with their hats on, standing in line for soup kitchens.
	That is the entire history of the Depression in the American experience these days.
	You think they went into anything deeper than that?
	Clearly not, otherwise she wouldn't be suggesting these things.
	So this is the idea, and it's not new, is to create new industry, force industry away from the oil economy, which the United States has, force it into things that have not been proven to actually work financially, which is wind and solar.
	Now, if she said...
	Let's do nuclear.
	I'd be all in.
	I'm like, yeah, I think you can do something with that.
	I don't know if you can change the whole economy.
	Well, I find it peculiar that nuke is kept out of the circle, and they want to abolish the use of all fossil fuels.
	Which is interesting to me because then she won't be able to fly from state to state to do this propaganda.
	How do you get around with – how do you fly a plane?
	Battery planes.
	Electric planes.
	Electric planes.
	Yes.
	One guy in a super lightweight plane with a couple of batteries has been able to get off the ground.
	That's it.
	For 20 minutes.
	All right.
	We move on.
	So – This, and what I like about her idea, and what the thinking, and I'm sure it's not her alone, there's other people behind her, there must be, is all the problems you see, everything, and the problems the kids deal with is racism, otherism, sexism, Nazism, hatism, whatever ism you want to put in there, all of that will be solved by By solving this problem.
	Because she and the Democratic Socialists of America want to redistribute everything, just every job that has anything to do with energy, wiped off the map, bring it back, give everybody the same salary, the same living wage, the same uniform, probably, and march along to work and do the good work to solve our climate crisis.
	How do we, you know, I think what we all understand is that we're fighting for the future of the planet.
	What Alexandria is talking about is that not only can we effectively combat climate change, but in the process, we can do good economics and create millions of good-paying jobs here and throughout the world.
	Alexandria, go into some details.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And it's important to also talk about the fact that this is not just an economic solution.
	This is the mechanism through which we can really deliver justice to communities that have been underserved.
	The water in Flint is still dirty.
	The water in Flint is still dirty.
	We've got children, Van and I were talking earlier, we've got children that are choking on the smoke in California.
	Those same, they're same children and rather children mirrored.
	I love, I just, I got that.
	That was a good one, by the way.
	That got to me.
	Oh, I just see these kids choking on smoke.
	Of those children in Puerto Rico are choking on the fungal spores because we have not recuperated from the crisis.
	Girl, I'm choking on fungal spores in Austin.
	Stop with that.
	From the floods is taking up all of these people's homes.
	We have injustices in this country.
	Those injustices are concentrated in frontline communities, in indigenous, black, and brown communities.
	They are the ones that experience the greatest depths of this injustice.
	But if we chose, and if we had the moral, political, and economic courage to say, we're going to fix all the pipes in Flint, we would put a lot of people to work.
	I'm at that at the same time.
	And that is what this is about.
	There you go.
	So it's putting people to work to clean your pipes.
	Okay, so you create, I don't know, what do you think, 10,000 plumbers in Flint to fix all the pipes because you want to get it done quickly.
	I think that number might work.
	Yeah.
	You also have some construction guys' backhoes and things digging up everything they can to get rid of these old pipes.
	So you just put a whole effort on that and then you get that job done.
	Then what do you do with these 10,000 plumbers that are in Flint?
	Use them for fuel.
	Obviously, the plan has a lot of holes in it, but that doesn't mean that people will not be convinced by this.
	There's a lot of abstractionary thinking going on.
	It's like, oh, that'll get solved and it's done, it's all fine.
	But stop...
	I want to mention something, because there's been all these things, there's a big article on, oh, don't underestimate AOC, don't underestimate this woman, don't mock her, because, you know, and you're kind of on the same boat.
	No, I said from day one, I said, people laughing about her, it sounds exactly the way people laughed at Trump.
	That's what I said.
	Yes, I understand what you're saying.
	But you would be on, I would say if there's an argument to be made, you're going to be making the arguments completely.
	In support of her potential, not of her.
	Her potential, of course.
	Yes, of course.
	Now, I think she's just too stupid, personally, to get very far.
	Now you can just throw the Trump thing at me, because all I guess is what they said about Trump, he's too stupid.
	And they say that to this day, he's too stupid.
	Yes, and he sounds stupid.
	He does.
	He sounds stupid.
	He does, just like AOC sounds stupid.
	But I think she's genuinely stupid.
	I don't know if he's stupid or just, you know, street smart.
	No, no, no, no.
	He's a billionaire.
	That gives him some credit for being at least not a complete idiot.
	Interesting.
	I didn't clip it, but during this conversation, they actually said, in America, it seems like you're only deemed intelligent if you make a lot of money.
	And you just proved that.
	No, I didn't.
	You just said, a guy makes a lot of money.
	He can't be stupid.
	No, I didn't say it was intelligent, though.
	They said you're intelligent if you make a lot of money.
	I'm saying you can't be really stupid and make a lot of money.
	That's a little different.
	Okay, I'm not going to belabor the point.
	She is not stupid.
	She's highly intelligent.
	But this is mind control.
	And she has no economics degree, as far as I know.
	But it also doesn't matter because she has an entire legion of politicians lining up behind her.
	They know it's not going to happen.
	They don't give a crap.
	Follow her.
	Follow the power.
	Yeah, they're following the legion.
	Following the power.
	They're wisely...
	And you would argue they're wisely following.
	Wisely following the power.
	But stop.
	We have breaking news.
	We've got to say something about Trump.
	Can we interrupt this for you to make an announcement about your shoes?
	Yes, yes.
	I think we need at least a half hour discussion about your shoes.
	Just kidding.
	And the same day as the Trump administration's climate report, which they tried to air a month early, the day after Thanksgiving, that same day they spent in prime time talking about my shoes.
	By the way, was that the Trump administration talking about your shoes or the news media?
	I'm not sure.
	You may have to look for your enemies elsewhere, but yes.
	That is what I talk about when I say being unseen, is that they won't even bring it up.
	They don't bring up Americans that make less than 40,000 or $50,000 a year.
	They don't bring up the fact that we have some of the large we have amassed some of the largest amounts of wealth in American history.
	But we have never seen so many people struggling and living paycheck to paycheck in the way that we are today.
	Oh, I think we have.
	Two more clips and then I'm done.
	Now we bring in Van Jones.
	He will promote himself.
	Well, first of all, it just brings tears to your eyes.
	Tears to my eyes.
	It's just unbelievable.
	What a fake.
	Bill and Bernie and myself and a bunch of other people here, we tried to take this hill.
	Yeah, we tried to take this hill.
	In 2008.
	Yeah, but, you know, I was a nutjob.
	A big part of Obama's agenda was essentially the Green New Deal.
	But, you know, I talked about 9-11 truthers.
	I had a job in the White House to try to implement it.
	Right wing came after me.
	I had to resign under fire.
	Ha!
	Rewriting history, Van?
	Wow.
	That's a classic.
	That's why I read to you what actually had happened.
	I knew this was coming.
	But of course, we all gloss over the errors in our history.
	White House tried to implement it.
	Right wing came after me.
	I had to resign under fire.
	Then they came after Bill and we couldn't get it done.
	But...
	I think you're going to get it done.
	We're going to get it done.
	We're going to get it done.
	Hell yeah!
	We are the world!
	She says we're instead of we're.
	What?
	She says we're going to get it done.
	Well, yes.
	Remember, millennial, rather than talk about my book, The Green Collar Economy...
	The other thing I think about your politics that's interesting is your generation uses the term intersectionality, which I've had to look up, but it's...
	I think we used to call it the Rainbow Coalition back in the 80s and 90s, but you guys have taken it to a different level.
	Can you just talk about...
	We had a slogan 10 years ago, green jobs, not jails.
	Mm-hmm.
	That we saw criminal justice and economic justice and environmental justice as one fight.
	That those kids standing on street corners, we don't have disposable resources, we don't have disposable species, we don't have disposable children or neighborhoods either.
	It's all precious.
	And that those kids could be putting up those solar panels, like Bernie was saying.
	There's your good weekend job right there, John.
	Those kids running around in gangs, what could they be doing on the weekend?
	They could be putting up solar panels.
	Solutions is what we're about.
	Yeah, that's what they want to do.
	Yeah, they want kids to put solar panels on their roads.
	You know, disposable resources.
	We don't have disposable species.
	We don't have disposable children or neighborhoods either.
	It's all precious.
	And those kids could be putting up those solar panels, like Bernie was saying, and making a positive difference.
	Can you just speak to the intersectional power of your Green New Deal?
	Okay, now this is the meat of it.
	She's going to speak to the intersectional power of her Green New Deal.
	Hold on a second.
	I sense a hint of mockery in your voice, and yet you condemn me for saying she's stupid.
	I'm not saying she's stupid.
	Well, maybe you need to define stupid, because you can't fix stupid.
	That's the point I'm making.
	Can't fix stupid.
	All right, go on.
	I'll accept the mockery in your voice.
	You can now play it, which I believe is probably going to be the punchline clip.
	Yeah, there's punchline on punchline.
	Yeah, it's really the core of that is leave no person behind.
	We cannot have a solution.
	Isn't that a military term?
	I don't know.
	Leave no student behind.
	Yeah, no, the Marines, leave no soldier behind, leave no student behind, leave no somebody behind.
	No child.
	Yeah, she's derivative.
	I give her credit for this, by the way.
	She's been doing a very good job.
	Yep.
	Of stealing other people's ideas, including Green New Deal, as you pointed out earlier in this series.
	To the T. But it's not just stealing.
	I mean, she took it and ran with it, and everyone who was a part of it seven years ago was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm Van Jones!
	Let me in!
	Power of your Green New Deal.
	Yeah, it's really the core of that is leave no person behind.
	We cannot have a solution.
	We cannot move forward into our future unless...
	Every single American is considered part of that.
	And whenever we see oversights, you know, oftentimes when we get to the negotiating table in laws, in policymaking, there's this idea that, oh, we can leave the poorest of the poor behind.
	Or we don't have to worry about this tiny sliver of the population because they're just a tiny sliver of the population.
	And what that eventually does is that it creates a crack.
	And that crack, really, if you think of there being like a crack in the dam, it's usually where things always break down.
	And when we create policy the right way, with integrity that honors everybody, from the most vulnerable to the most powerful, when we acknowledge and see every person in this country, which is really what it's about, is that we have chosen not to see people in this country.
	We have chosen not to see people in this country until the majority of us have become unseen economically.
	Working people are not seen in the halls of Congress.
	Working people are not seen in policy making until we realize that the majority of Americans are working or working poor.
	This is persuasion.
	And I think it's good persuasion.
	I think she's really...
	She said nothing about what she's doing.
	Nothing at all.
	She just spoke in identity politics to the entire world of identity politics groups.
	And I think it's going to be very effective.
	Here's your punchline clip.
	The good news is that we're not starting from scratch.
	There are so many people like Van, like Senator Merkley, who had established a select committee when he was in the House, a previous select committee.
	There's a lot of legislation that has been drafted to already start addressing some of these smaller issues, just transitions in coal, whether it's...
	Our energy infrastructure, whether it's battery, when we're looking at battery grids and so on, there's a lot of work that has already been done.
	But it needs to be consolidated and brought under the tent of a Green New Deal.
	And when we try to solve this issue piecemeal, we are not going to get it solved in time.
	So what she's saying is everything that deals with the economy has to be in my select committee.
	You can't deal with it outside of it.
	You got battery grids, whatever that is.
	That's in my group.
	Battery grids here!
	That's why we are asking for this really great...
	Ambitious, singular plan.
	And that is why I believe that the progressive movement is the only movement that has answers right now.
	We're the only ones that are drawing from the lessons of history, from Franklin Delano Roosevelt, from some of the most ambitious projects that we have pursued in history.
	In American history.
	And that truly, again, is the scale that it's going to take.
	So, you know, I think that there's so much work that has been done and there's some outlying questions, especially when it comes to investment in technology.
	Here we go.
	When we as a public choose to invest in private, when we as a public choose to invest in new technologies, we deserve a return on that investment.
	And for far too long, we gave money to Tesla, we gave money to a ton of people, and we got no return on our investment that the public made in creating technologies.
	And it's about time that we get our due.
	Because it's the public that funded and financed a lot of innovative technologies, and that's another...
	Elon!
	So, F you, Elon, with your no return on investment.
	Thank you, AOC, for saying that.
	That's a fantastic example.
	By the way, finance by companies like Kleiner Perkins, not that they pulled money out of their pocket.
	They went to Washington.
	They got the money.
	Was it $500 million just for Fisker alone?
	Forget about all the money that Elon Musk has...
	It's taken.
	And then we continue to subsidize those vehicles.
	Well, we have to remember that the only reason that we're getting raped and this money is being taken from the public, which means your taxpayers, and $500 million being sent off to a Fisker that went out of business.
	That burns.
	Or any of these other companies.
	It's because of people like her and this promotion of this global warming nonsense at this level.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So it's like a vicious cycle.
	It's like you create the phony problem and then you solve it with, you know, then you soak people for money and then you give the money away and the money goes to all these, it goes into somebody's pocket.
	It's not that it's not, you know, that it's actually being used for anything productive.
	It's not being, it's not beneficial to anyone.
	It is to Elon Musk.
	The whole thing is a giant scam.
	Yes!
	But our job is to help the millennials who are woke, There aren't that many.
	We have a few.
	Yeah, there are a few.
	I'll take the ones we got because they're the ones that have somehow, I think a lot of them do poorly in school.
	That's why the programming doesn't work.
	The ones that know how to fake it do well.
	Right, right.
	We got a note from Gabby Bentley.
	She said, millennial boots on the ground school report.
	I'll just give you a couple choice bits.
	A bit of background, I was hit in the mouth by my dad and brothers who have been listening to the show for years.
	My dad is even a knight.
	He is Sir Snoops Magoo.
	And I met John at the meetup in Seattle.
	I'm the girl standing next to him in the big group photo.
	24 years old.
	I live in Tacoma, Washington.
	I currently go to community college and have been for the last two years except for about five months last year when I did a study abroad in Japan.
	Here's a couple of observations.
	I'm just going to pick one or two.
	This is an important one.
	There's an epidemic of depression among millennials.
	I think that's because of social media and many, quote, disastrous things they read on.
	It's causing their amygdala to become enlarged.
	Also, many of my friends like to joke about the depression and romanticize it.
	It's almost as if that if you're not depressed, you're not cool.
	It's very troubling.
	College after the election.
	After Trump was elected, teachers and students at my school became absolutely unhinged.
	I took English 101 in the winter of 2017, and in almost every class, my teacher would spend a lot of class time spouting her opinions on Trump, some of which I have a recording of.
	Send it.
	Send it!
	In spring of 2018, my history teacher would spend the first 10 to 15 minutes of class talking about what CNN had said about Trump the previous day.
	He even said during our unit on the Cold War, quote, Putin is worse than Stalin!
	Needless to say, I spent a majority of my time in that class rolling my eyes.
	So there are young people who are woke.
	I love using that term.
	And we need to help them as much as we can by exposing this farce.
	But make no mistake, AOC and the DSA are on a fast track to power in Washington, D.C. I don't see how Nancy Pelosi, now with 25 members of the Sunrise Coalition or whatever they're calling it, 25 new Democrats are all in.
	I don't think she can just say, screw it, we're not going to do it.
	She'll let them create it, but I'm sure she'll hamper it somehow.
	Well, she'll try to control it a little bit.
	I mean, she did the same thing with the jobs, jobs, jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	Right.
	And she was all in on that, and that was pretty much the same thing.
	The same deal.
	In fact, it sounds almost identical to what was going on back in 2008.
	The difference is, look at Ocasio-Cortez, look at Nancy Pelosi.
	Who are the kids going to be attracted to?
	Yeah, no, the kids are going to obviously be, you know, are going to obviously be attracted to the more attractive of the two, which is her, which is Miss Bug Eyes.
	The one who was slapping down history.
	It's been done before.
	FDR did the New Deal.
	When we were a poor country.
	When we were a poor country, we had no money.
	We were just slubs standing in line for a job.
	Fourth world.
	Yeah.
	And we can get battery grids.
	So there'll be a lot of mocking, don't worry.
	Plenty of mocking for us to do.
	But I think she's on a fast track, and I'm not going to discount her, and it's now my beat.
	You can have it.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage, and say in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Cherrophobic Dvorak.
	In the morning to you.
	In the morning to you.
	Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all foots on the ground, feet's in the air, and foots in the air, and subs in the water, if there's any.
	And the dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning, to the troll room!
	They're there with their troll poles, ready to troll away at noagendastream.com.
	You can do it live every Sunday and Thursday morning is when we record the program and stream it out.
	Trolls are always helping.
	With their troll poles.
	And also in the morning too, once again, the hat trick.
	He did it.
	Darren O'Neill brings it home.
	He submitted half the art.
	He's like, I'm getting this hat trick.
	I don't care what happens.
	He did.
	He did put like eight different pieces in there.
	There were some good pieces, if I recall.
	There were some things that we really enjoyed.
	Yes.
	There's some unusable that we really enjoyed, which is always funny for us.
	And this was the artwork that had Australia and a prawn, a happy prawn.
	A shrimp!
	A shrimp, a prawn.
	I don't know what it was!
	Put another prawn on the barbie.
	Cause no one in Australia calls them shrimp.
	No one here drinks that Foster's lager.
	Everybody knows it tastes like shit, but we'll spread the root.
	So there's a whole new Chris Wilson song for putting another prawn on the Barbie, which I'll play at the end of show mix.
	Thank you.
	So we have a few people to thank, a number of executive producers and associate executive producers, starting with Roy Pierce in Fort Pierce, Florida, no relation, $334.
	He sent a note in.
	He sent a check and a note.
	We need more.
	You know, the check thing, don't forget, it's box 339 El Cerrito, California, 94530.
	You can send us a Christmas gift would be nice, checks.
	Yeah, if you send me a Christmas gift, John will send it to me by Easter.
	Which reminds me.
	Tell folks that claim you are exclusively pro-Trump to hang out at the Dvorak.org slash blog.
	This has been taken over by the Lib Joes.
	Started receiving plenty of telemarketing calls and asked how these vendors found me.
	That's what he's doing now.
	Replies were that they were using a contact list that had been purchased from Dun& Bradstreet.
	I've never had a relationship with D&B, so I visited their site and learned they had me listed as a firm that had not existed for a dozen years.
	In bad standing.
	In bad standing.
	So he'd be executive producer, top of the list.
	Then Illuminati comes in with $333.33.
	Hey, Illuminati, nice!
	She's in Vista, California.
	Hello, gents.
	With this donation, I've achieved damehood.
	And she says, I wanted to point out to listeners that I achieved most of this with the $333.33 monthly subscription, which curiously is their most popular monthly subscription.
	And I treated it as any other bill and kept up with it even when I was unemployed.
	Just saying.
	Just saying.
	Can I get a douchebag call out from my wonderful friends Joel?
	Douchebag!
	Mahi?
	Douchebag!
	And Patrick?
	Douchebag!
	And no, they won't take Bitcoin, Patrick.
	Drop it.
	On that note, I want to extend my thanks to all of my friends out there on the No Agenda universe for the jobs card, which includes my amazing husband, Brandon, who stuck it out with me and showed me nothing but love and support through some tough times.
	I got a ton of amazing...
	I'm sorry.
	We got a ton of amazing...
	What?
	I got a ton of...
	Oh, I got it.
	I can't see why I can't jump to this line.
	Anyway, we got a ton of jobs karma back in April when my contract...
	Oh, she got some jobs karma when her contract position with a big biotech company was coming to an end.
	When I wasn't able to get a job after that, contract had concluded I became doubtful of the job karma's power.
	Oh, no!
	Let me tell you, friends, it works.
	Even if it's a little delayed, last month I became a research associate and conducted research on cancer and infectious diseases.
	I'm absolutely in love with my job.
	They told me that some of the diseases they researched include Ebola and Zika.
	So now I'll be able to get some inside scoop on the research being done on any diseases that the media uses to scare the shit out of people and assure you that it really isn't as bad as they say or confirm that it's really that bad.
	Mm-hmm.
	I've got to say that making art for the show is a ton of fun, and I do it whenever I can.
	I wanted to mention that Nick the Rat was nice enough to take the time to give me a few pointers on art design.
	After a couple of lessons, I was selected, and part of that was definitely thanks to his guidance.
	I would like to be known simply as Dame Illuminati.
	I would like roller skates and breakfast burritos brought to the round table.
	Yes, I have them right here.
	If you would be so kind.
	Adam, John, I love you and thank you.
	force in many people's lives and i hope more people will contribute to the show and help you stay around forever and ever well oh god no not forever no not forever and ever contributing more to the show would probably be a good thing i'm so happy illuminati and it's nice because for some reason eric the show didn't put you on the list i have you on the list of course for a for a daming and i'm very excited about that and you have truly been a great force for the show and i love seeing what you've received back now besides jobs karma you know you
	uh you've got interaction with other people within the value network.
	That's what it should be.
	And I'm going to give you a gratuitous karma because you didn't ask for it.
	You've got karma.
	Gracias.
	So I don't know what I did, but I hit the wrong button.
	I took out Sir Sean of Slovakia.
	Luckily, Control Z brings everything back in most Microsoft products.
	$333.33.
	Forgive me, Podfather.
	It's been a year since my last donation.
	The show has been and continues to be amazing.
	John, a few years ago, you talked about Europeans traveling as Americans living in Vienna, about them not traveling.
	And only relating to some woman in Germany who wouldn't go to Paris.
	As an American living in Vienna, my smoking hot Slovak wife and I travel all over the continent when we get the chance.
	You're not a European.
	We have visited Rome, Madrid, and Nordwick.
	Ask Adam to pronounce it.
	All twice in the past year.
	It's cheap with tons of budget airlines and Airbnb or friends.
	Hoping for a spring Amsterdam NA meetup with Adam.
	Adam, please make it happen.
	It's Nordvik.
	Nordvik.
	Vike.
	Vike.
	Which means the Vikings from the northern.
	No, it's the north area is really literally what it means.
	North area.
	Yeah, very descriptive.
	Jingle request.
	Mac and cheese, dealer's choice.
	Reverend Al, dealer's choice.
	And shape-shifting Jews.
	And also the full version at the end of the show mix.
	Please travel karma for Christmas trip to the States.
	Attention, producers.
	Donate, donate, donate, people.
	The show doesn't exist without you.
	Yes, you.
	Thanks, Sir Shana of Slovakia.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	and cheap cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	The neighborhood watch captain says he shot the teen in self-defense.
	But the young man was not armed.
	He was going back home after buying an iced tea and skillets candy.
	No name calling.
	No incendiary language.
	Just the facts.
	A young man dead.
	The assailant says self-defense.
	What is found on the young man?
	Skillets and iced tea.
	Roll on, roll on for the magical safe-shifting tune.
	Step right this way.
	Roll up, roll up for the shape-shifting juice. Roll up, the magical shape-shifting juice.
	You've got karma. . .
	Angela Garvin, $333.
	She's in parts unknown from what I can tell here.
	First and foremost, I'm a long-time listener, first-time donor.
	You know what to do.
	Oh, of course I do.
	You've been de-douched.
	This summer, following my exodus from San Diego to Oklahoma City, I took a traveling position with my hospital.
	I fly out on assignment on Monday mornings and fly home on Thursday nights nationwide.
	No agenda has been the perfect travel companion to combat my boredom in flight.
	As I listen to your media deconstruction from about 30,000 feet in the air, galvanating across the many regions of this beautifully diverse country that we call home.
	Special shout out to my brother Jeff, who I know is listening.
	He hit me in the mouth nearly two years ago, and I've been a dedicated listener since then.
	And to you, John and Adam, Merry Christmas and thank you for all that you do.
	Jingle requests, respect and goat karma.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T. You've got...
	Karma.
	Torwin Underwood in Hamilton, Ohio.
	$311.
	$300.11.
	Forgive me, Podfather.
	Interesting enough, a little random number stuff going on here.
	Forgive me, Podfather, for I have sinned, which is what somebody else said.
	It's been a long time since I donated.
	Please accept this executive producership to help sustain the show during the slowdown in donations during the holiday season.
	If my accounting is correct, this donation, now that's what you call those cornballs.
	Like somebody doesn't know how to read a prompt or I just read it that way.
	Yeah, it was good.
	It was on a different line.
	What am I supposed to say?
	If my accounting is correct, this donation makes me a full baron.
	You have to put him on the list.
	This is the second one Eric hasn't put on the list.
	Yeah.
	But you know, that invoice shows up on time, I'll tell you.
	Just bitching.
	Just bitching.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He missed it.
	This donation makes me a full baron.
	I would like to claim the protectorate of all Southwest Ohio.
	If it hasn't been claimed, I don't believe it.
	So is it...
	You can have it.
	Is it of Southwest Ohio or all of Southwest Ohio?
	Of all Southwest Ohio.
	Baron of all...
	Which I think is the same as Southwest Ohio.
	Well, he's got it now.
	Baron of all Southwest Ohio.
	We're not messing around here with our peerage.
	Got it.
	Done.
	Thank you.
	Beautiful.
	Antonio Sanchez Godinez in Madrid, Spain.
	$250.
	American.
	Thank you for your efforts to keep us sane.
	Need big job karma.
	Then we'll bring out the big guns then.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Let us know how that works out.
	We may have to redo it to you.
	I think he asked for a big jobs karma.
	That's why I brought out the big guns.
	If it doesn't work, let us know.
	We'll rescind and just do a Nancy for you.
	Yeah.
	We'll hit you with a Nancy.
	I think Nancy's the one that...
	Well, screw with that.
	I'm doing it now.
	Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yeah!
	You've got karma.
	If that doesn't work, then I don't know what does.
	Sir Tim of the Tunnels in Waipahu in Hawaii, $222.
	With the M5M lionizing the late George H.W. Bush, I was almost certain that I had imagined all the shenanigans he and his administration got down to, or had somehow slipped into another dimension.
	Fortunately for my sanity, the full-throated roar of Thursday's show cut through the droning of the pundits, and the clips from Democracy Now!
	were pure juice, almost too delicious to believe!
	Ha ha ha!
	Thanks for the bi-weekly sanity check.
	Enjoy the bags of elevens.
	Can I get some Reverend Manning whooping them with the constitution and a little girl boom shakalaka and some obligatory goat charma.
	Charma?
	I don't know about the little girl boom shakalaka.
	Yeah.
	Boom shakalaka!
	Boom shakalaka!
	Where is the little kid?
	We got a little kid doing that?
	Yeah, geez, we used to use it all the time.
	Well, you make it sound like it's easy.
	Let's see, is it this one?
	Boom shakalaka.
	No, it's not that one.
	Is it this one?
	No, that's Manning.
	We got that one.
	Is it this one?
	Boom shakalaka.
	I like that one, though.
	This is good.
	Boom shakalaka.
	We'll have to use that one.
	And what was the final jingle?
	Uh, whooping him with the Constitution.
	Boom, shakalaka, and goat karma.
	Okay.
	Now, get out there and whoop him!
	We just need cash.
	Yay!
	Bye.
	You've got karma.
	I don't know what all that was.
	That's all I got for you right now.
	Sorry.
	Where's that little...
	I thought we had a little girl.
	Yeah.
	It's a very cute jingle.
	You'll have to find it later.
	Okay, well now I have an issue.
	Uh-oh.
	This is Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.
	Yeah, this was that beautiful email.
	The beautiful email.
	$22.22.
	And she says, see the email, I saw the email and read it.
	Well, you put it in the newsletter.
	And I put it in the newsletter, but I can't find it in the email.
	Okay.
	Then let me go to my Outlook 365.
	Open up the newsletter and read it.
	No, I have it here.
	Dear Adam and John.
	Actually, it says Dear John and Adam.
	A small faux pas.
	Ever since Sir Mark hit me in the mouth in the early 200 episodes of No Agenda, I have fervently been listening each Friday morning and Monday morning, due to the time difference in Japan, to get my dose of sanity.
	John!
	Your newsletters are always a great tease.
	But the recent one was just outrageous.
	Asthma cigarettes and no flies on me thanks to DDT. It's baffling how over the years intolerance of the large gray scale of diverse opinions has grown and more and more people feel compelled to simply take sides with either black or white with nothing in between.
	I was stunned at Tim Collins.
	Tim Cook.
	Tom Collins' hypocrisy for wanting to welcome all refugees while Apple itself carefully scrutinizes who is led through their door.
	A huge thank you for your courage in making the news plain to see to us all.
	Also, big thanks to all the producers, especially the art and jingle producers, for keeping in a sparkly happy festive season to you all, Daymaster Duchess of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.
	Thank you, Daymaster.
	It's always lovely to get a note from you, and I agree.
	I think it was a great idea to put your note in the newsletter.
	It worked.
	It really did.
	Thank you.
	Big patrons of the show.
	The last newsletter, the one that went out with her note in it, was also the most popular newsletter.
	It seems I got more feedback because people just love those animated GIFs.
	Here I am, thinking it's the great letters, the great testimonials.
	But no, guys shooting off firecrackers on their crotch always beats out intelligence, and you worry about AOC being stupid.
	Come on!
	That crotch one is the one that was the...
	No, I like the guy who drinks the burning liquid, and then spills it on, and then his face is on fire.
	That's my favorite.
	It's a bunch of other guys.
	And my favorite part about that one, the guy's face is on fire, and so his friends are about to help him, but the one douchebag near the front of the camera has to take one last drag on his cigarette.
	Hold on, bro.
	I'm coming, bro.
	Hold on one second.
	You all right?
	And he spanks him with a towel in his face.
	It's great.
	I just love that.
	Yeah, these are the people who...
	Of course these people will believe in global warming.
	Hello!
	They're setting their face on fire on purpose.
	They're setting their crotch on fire with firecrackers.
	Hello!
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	There's something I wanted to mention in the last show when we played that woman who, um, Who, the faker that was talking about the babies and the incubators and all that.
	Yes.
	Democracy Now!
	clip, yes.
	She also had some stuff in there that should have been sending off alarms.
	You've been in the Middle East.
	I have.
	Have you ever noticed that when you're driving like through the desert or any area in the Middle East, you're usually on a highway or some sort of a paved road?
	Yes, beautiful highways.
	In Iraq, the highway was eight lanes and you drove in the middle.
	Yeah.
	Israel's that way.
	She made it sound like they're driving in the sand.
	When you listen to that clip, because they got stuck.
	Because they got stuck a couple of times because they're driving.
	They're driving not on a highway or road.
	They're driving literally in the sand, which was just to promote the idea that this is just a bunch of sand.
	In the sand, yeah, of course.
	There's no cities.
	There's no roads.
	It's just sand.
	Yeah, man.
	Sand.
	You know, I caught the Intercepted.
	That's Jeremy Scahill does a podcast for The Intercept, that $250 million blog that Grand Greenwald Don Raff and Pierre Omidyar started.
	Yeah.
	And he did pretty much the same thing as Democracy Now about Bush.
	He went really far just yelling about and going into great detail of the horrors and the death and destruction that H.W. Bush had brought upon the world, the ruthlessness.
	And I'm like, wow, this is another great example of someone not kowtowing to the normal M5M line.
	It turns out, you know where this guy came from?
	His first gig was interning for Amy at Democracy Now!
	Yeah.
	Pretty good.
	She always has him on, too.
	Pretty good.
	I like this.
	It's a little cult.
	Oh, a little cult?
	Holy moly.
	Well, it's a...
	Yeah, it's a little cult.
	So we have, it looks like, now Trump is going to change a bunch of people out, which doesn't surprise me.
	It's the end of the year.
	It's the end of the year.
	It always happens at the end of the year.
	You kick some people out.
	No, I don't have a rundown on the number of people, but we do have a parent, and I have all these little rundowns by the El Cindor woman on the main people that are leaving, and I would like to play them so we know, because for example...
	Mark Miley, the guy who was Army Chief of Staff, the top guy.
	Oh, the Joint Chief?
	No, he's not the Joint Chief guy.
	He is the Army guy.
	Oh, this is the guy you like.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You like this guy, yeah.
	I do like this guy, and I have a couple, and I brought some of his old clips back.
	Okay.
	Because he's the one who gave that slightly longest, a three-minute, 23-second clip on the World Order.
	I don't necessarily want to play it right now.
	But, it looks like Tillerson, well, Tillerson's been gone for a while, but they're going to bring in Miley, and then they're going to move over Heather Newart.
	Now, her name is Nowart.
	Now, I want to play this Clip about her by Alcindor because the mainstream media has gone after her.
	They're going after her.
	Oh, yeah, because she's one of them, you see.
	She was a Fox News babe, although she's very accomplished in her own right.
	But she now, she has no...
	She doesn't know about politics.
	She's just a spokeshole.
	She doesn't know nothing.
	This was a revealing clip because it's as if...
	Alcindor did a very good job of giving a rundown on her, but she never threw in that she doesn't know it.
	So Judy throws it in at the end, which makes me think that Judy's really the left winger there.
	And once Gwen Ifill left, Judy has become kind of a nutball.
	Heather Nauert, she has been the spokesperson and assistant secretary of state.
	What do we know about her?
	I'm going to quickly walk you through her bio.
	She was a spokesperson for the State Department.
	She was appointed by President Trump in April 2017.
	She's a former correspondent for Fox News and a correspondent for ABC News.
	So she's someone who has a lot of experience in journalism.
	I'm told today that President Trump appointed her because she's a good talker.
	She's someone who has defended this administration's foreign policy plans.
	The President said she's very smart, very quick.
	People I've talked to say that she is someone who could talk, who could really come up to speed on the UN's dealings, that she could do the outside job, which is giving speeches, and that she could rely on her staff as much like Nikki Haley did to talk about other countries and get them to really support the things that the United States wants them to do.
	But no significant diplomatic experience.
	No, no significant diplomatic experience.
	You throw that in there, Judy.
	How can they be mean about a woman?
	I mean, isn't this the intersectionality we want?
	Isn't this the diversity that we speak?
	That we seek?
	I mean, let's see.
	Let's see.
	She went to shitty schools.
	Arizona State.
	That's a party school.
	Yep.
	For all the pretty girls.
	Bachelor of Arts in Communications from Mount Vernon College for Women.
	A master's degree from Columbia.
	Let's see what she did.
	She did work at some pretty serious news organizations.
	ABC News.
	She contributed to ABC World News Tonight, Good Morning America, Nightline.
	She was nominated for an Emmy Award for her news prowess.
	Yeah, what does she know?
	Stupid.
	What does she know about anything?
	No policy.
	It's the wrong person.
	It's exactly the right person.
	Everybody who's, you know, all these jamokes who stand up there at the United Nations, it's all PR, everything they do.
	Every document the United Nations comes up with is just a, we agree, and recognizing that.
	There's no binding things that come out of there, except a veto once in a while on the, what is it, the war committee.
	The Security Council.
	Yeah, the War Council.
	But otherwise, it's totally...
	And she's going to reign supreme.
	You know what's going to happen?
	Just to be a dick about it, these old boys at the United Nations are like, finally, they sent us a cute one.
	After Samantha Power.
	And by the way, why is it predominantly women that we send there?
	Yeah, it's a good point.
	I mean, they've sent...
	It's been all women.
	Hillary was there for a while.
	Let's see.
	Nikki Haley.
	John Kerry, I think, was there for a while.
	Let's look at the list.
	Almost all women.
	Let's look at the list.
	Haley.
	Michelle Sison, briefly.
	Samantha Power.
	Rosemary DiCarlo.
	Susan Rice.
	We have to go back to 2007.
	Who was this guy?
	Zalmay.
	Oh, Kalizad.
	Kalizad.
	Ah, there's something about that guy.
	He made a hell of an impact.
	Yeah, really.
	Before that, there was just an acting guy.
	Then it was Bolton.
	Bolton in 2005.
	Before that, Ann Patterson.
	Then we had Dan Firstnigger.
	I'm going back in time.
	So really, you have to go back to 1993 where we find Madeleine Albright.
	Well, I guess she's the exception to the women's rule.
	No, Jean Kirkpatrick in 1981.
	And that was it.
	As the jet flies overhead.
	But the last one, two, three, four, five, I think that it's time for a man.
	This is not diversity.
	I think it's time for a Chinese...
	Man from the United States.
	American Chinese.
	Come on.
	Why do you say that?
	Because we don't have...
	The ethnic is all whites.
	No, Susan Rice is not white.
	Samantha Power's not white.
	She's a gray.
	She's a redhead.
	She's a gray.
	I thought she was a reptilian, personally.
	She's a ginger.
	She doesn't count.
	All right, so anyway, the other guy they're putting in is this Miley character, who I like, as you say.
	Let's do the rundown.
	This is the Miley rundown on PBS that Alcindor does.
	Millie, General Mark Millie, to be the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
	So this is someone else that I'm going to have to pull up a graphic for.
	He is a four-star general and an army chief of staff.
	He is a special forces officer.
	He was.
	He commanded troops in Afghanistan and Iraq and Korea.
	And the people that I talked to who know him very well say that he's someone who's very blunt.
	He's someone that once he figures out that he's right or thinks that he's right, is someone who's going to push for his point of view.
	That, of course, could mean that he gets along with President Trump, who also is someone that's like that, or that he could butt heads with the president instantly.
	I'm also told that he really likes to deal with troops.
	He likes to visit troops.
	I talked to someone who spent time with him in Afghanistan, and he told me a really funny anecdote.
	And that anecdote is that he went to visit French troops, a French battalion, and they prepared baguettes, which are traditional French bread for him.
	And when he bit into this baguette, his dentures got stuck in the bread.
	And the troops were saying, oh my God, we're so embarrassed.
	And he said, it's okay, troops.
	I sometimes carry a spare pair of teeth with me.
	So he's someone who's really down to earth and who is beloved in a lot of ways by troops.
	So he could be someone who gets along with the president.
	He may need that sense of humor.
	Some riveting analysis of the war prowess of this man.
	Oh God.
	Well, I think the connection is the false teeth.
	Yeah.
	Trump.
	Yeah.
	So they're all buddy-buddy, like, how about you then?
	They go into a room and like, hey, bro, can we, yeah, let's just do it.
	Oh, it's so nice to talk without my dentist.
	No one else can.
	That's pretty poor.
	If we want, we can listen to Miley's, this we played on the show about almost two years ago.
	Miley's report on the world order and how it works and what we do and how we fit into the scheme of things as a country.
	I think it was one of the best analyses anyone's presented, and it's right from the horse's mouth, the guy who has to implement it.
	I think this is extremely important.
	I recall us both talking about it, and I'm happy to give it another whirl.
	You heard Meyer talk about the army.
	We don't have a small army.
	But the question on size of forces, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, it's a relative question.
	It's not an absolute question.
	It's a question of what do you want it to do?
	How big do you want it is relative to the tasks you want it to do.
	The United States military is a global military, and we have been for sure.
	Since the First World War, and with absolute certainty since the Bretton Woods Agreements at the end of World War II, which established essentially the international order, the rules and regimes by which the world runs today.
	So for seven decades, the world has had a certain set of rule sets, emphasizing things like free trade and international commerce, things like democracy, the quote-unquote liberal world order, things like human rights, and there's a whole wide variety of And then you've got institutions that it rests upon, the United Nations and the World Bank and the World Trade Organization, all these things that were developed many years ago.
	And that is essentially what people very quickly refer to as the world order.
	One of the significant roles of the United States military for seven decades has been to enforce that world order.
	To maintain it, to maintain its stability.
	And that's in our interest because in the first half of the last century, there was a bloodletting unlike any that had ever occurred in the history of mankind.
	So between 1914 and 1945, 100 million people We're slaughtered in the conduct of war.
	And that's a horrible, horrible nightmare.
	My mother and father both served in that war.
	My mother in the Navy and my father in the Marines.
	And he hit the beach at Iwo Jima where 7,000 Marines were killed in 19 days.
	34,000 wounded.
	22,000 Japanese killed on an island that was 2 miles by 4 miles.
	There were millions of Chinese killed in belt battle and murdered.
	If you want a real trail of tears, go to Eastern Europe and see what happened in Belarus and Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania.
	It's horrific.
	Nine out of every ten Jews that lived in Poland weren't alive in 1945.
	One out of every three males that lived in the Ukraine or Belarus were dead by 1945.
	It's a horrific situation.
	Picture that occurred.
	And those people who were in leadership positions in 1945 said never again.
	We can't keep doing this.
	This is insane.
	They said the same thing in 1815 after the Napoleonic Wars, and they set up the Council of Europe.
	And that worked well for 100 years, for one century.
	They kept the long peace in Europe, more or less.
	There were a couple of minor flare-ups, the Crimean War and the Austrian Royal War and a few other wars.
	But there wasn't a continental-wide war until...
	1914.
	So we tried again in 1945 to set up a system that would try to maintain global peace and prevent war between great powers and great power states throughout the world.
	That system is under stress, intense stress.
	Today.
	That system is under stress from revolutionaries and terrorists and guerrillas.
	It's under stress from nation states that don't like the rules of the road that were written and want to revise those rules of the road.
	That system is under very intense stress.
	And we're at 70 years now.
	And that system has prevented great power at war, similar to what occurred in the first half of the last century.
	Now, before you continue with your presentation, I would like to play a clip that fits seamlessly with this, which is why I'm happy you brought it.
	This is RT with their current version of what Russia, this is them pushing back on the nuke treaty, what they view as the New World Order today.
	It is time for change.
	Time for the old ways to die.
	Time for a new undisputed leader.
	A new American world order.
	Our mission is to reassert our sovereignty, reform the liberal international order.
	The central question that we face...
	Is the question of whether the system, as currently configured as it exists today, and as the world exists today, does it work?
	Does it work for all the people of the world?
	The old way is out of date.
	The United Nations is useless, incompetent.
	The IMF is obsolete.
	European Union pointless.
	All these international organizations, unions, treaties and agreements, they only hinder America.
	They tie its hands and cripple its power.
	The logic is sound.
	Wouldn't we all be better off if we just let America rule?
	America intends to lead now and always.
	The Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.
	Russia is violating it, says America.
	Others aren't bound by it.
	It hobbles, limits, limits the United States.
	And Washington's policy requires, it seems, more nukes, bigger nukes, faster nukes.
	One country in the world is bound by the INF Treaty, us.
	China's not bound by it.
	Iran has an extensive IRBM capability.
	But we have global responsibilities in Asia and the Middle East.
	We have to be responsive there, too.
	International democracy has failed.
	Alliances have failed.
	Nations cannot tell right from wrong.
	Everyone wants a say, but why let them?
	They no longer know what's good for them.
	America is good for them.
	This is what President Trump is doing.
	He is returning the United States to its traditional, central leadership role in the world.
	And so it seems we enter a new age.
	An age where might makes right.
	Without all the fluff and lip service to partnerships and equality, the old world order is dead.
	Welcome to a new American age.
	I like those two back-to-back.
	Well, what it shows is that there's a misunderstanding.
	Because as Millie would say, it was all part of the post-World War II Bretton Woods and other agreements that we were taking this role on.
	And all we're doing...
	It's just reiterating that because it was actually, I think, somewhat weakened by Obama.
	Somewhat, certainly weakened.
	We're putting the jackboot to the head is what we're doing.
	And so now we have to go...
	Strengthen it again, because again, the idea is to keep from having 100 million people killed within just a decade or two, which is what happened before.
	This is the nature of Europe in general.
	They want to fight each other.
	And I've always thought that the...
	That the EU experiment was just going to enable that again.
	Well, anyway, he has a little bit of a finish on this.
	Part two doesn't say as much, but it's not a bad rap.
	Similar to what occurred in the first half of the last century.
	So, the question is, how big an army do you want?
	How big a navy do you want?
	Well, how much do you want that system?
	How much do you value that system?
	Is that system worth preserving or not?
	Therein you get to the size and scope of your armies, navies, air forces, and marines.
	And, rightly or wrongly, fairly or unfairly, the role of the arbiter Of that system has defaulted to the United States for seven decades.
	There are other countries, 60 or 70 of them or so, that have allied themselves with their militaries to us, and they make significant contributions.
	But it is the United States that's been the leader with that system.
	So the status of the army as part of the military force that works to help maintain the stability of the world, we're a global military and we're a global army, and we've got right now today about 180,000 soldiers in the United States Army, active duty, reserve, and national guard deployed in about 140 countries around the world.
	Yes, we are number one.
	So it remains to be seen how well this guy will get along with Bolton, who seems to be just some sort of a troublemaker.
	And even Trump, who's always bitching about all these soldiers we have stationed all over the place, although I think he's softened his position on that.
	Yes.
	This is going to be an interesting situation with this guy being the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
	I don't know what kind of decisions he'll make.
	We'll see.
	I have no idea.
	Listening to all this, something just hit me about the true fallacy of the Green New Deal.
	It just hit me.
	So they are saying we're going to make the world, but certainly the United States, completely, we're going to take you off oil.
	So no more oil.
	And we're going to pay for that by printing money through the Federal Reserve.
	That's what they said.
	That's what she says in her Green New Deal.
	The problem is, if you get rid of all the oil, the dollar is no longer needed.
	No, this is a subversive – the whole Green New Deal and, in fact, the entire global warming propaganda that you mentioned was foisted on the children is an attempt to destroy the country.
	Yes, because if she actually thinks she can pay for this by printing money for money that is no longer needed because oil is no longer in play.
	If we would get that hyperinflation we're looking for, the idea is to destroy Western civilization as we know it.
	Yes.
	I've always thought she was subversive.
	I mean, the whole social, the fact that they're proud of the word socialist.
	Within their moniker, Democrat Socialists of America, whatever they call themselves.
	It's a subversive operation designed to...
	To kill the country.
	Reset everything.
	Actually, you're right.
	To even reset the balance, everything these guys just said would be gone.
	It would be gone.
	We wouldn't be important.
	Which I think is the plan.
	Don't be important.
	Or as the millennials say, important.
	Important.
	Important.
	You know, Schwarzenegger was out there at the...
	Was it Poland now?
	Where are they doing the new climate change thing?
	Poland, yeah.
	I think it's Poland.
	Some little burg in Poland, some small town.
	Yeah, he was out there talking.
	What does he know?
	He knows a lot.
	No, you want to hear what he said?
	Or do you want to continue with what you were doing?
	No, I want to hear what he said.
	Every time you talk about America, you're right when you say that our leadership in Washington is a little bit backwards.
	But you're wrong when you say that America dropped out of the Paris Agreement.
	Because if you look a little bit beyond Washington, you will see that it is the states and the cities, there's local governments, that control 70% of our emissions.
	And you will see all the extraordinary work that is going on on the state and city level in America.
	So the states and the cities are still in, in the Paris Agreement.
	Our financial institutions are in.
	Our academic institutions are still in.
	The governors and the mayors are still in.
	The United States is still in.
	And we're doing an extraordinary job there by staying in.
	Yes, we have a Meshuggah leader in Washington that is not in, that is out.
	But remember that America is more than just Washington, one leader.
	Yeah, good old...
	Meshuggah?
	Yeah, he threw in a little Yiddish there for us.
	Well, the best quote he had was during the Q&A, and it's a little different audio, it's a different mic, but you'll hear what he...
	If he really could do what he could do, what he wanted to do, he'd do this.
	I wish...
	That I could be the Terminator in real life to be able to travel back on time and to stop all fossil fuels when they were discovered.
	He's serious about it.
	We'd all be living in mud huts.
	Yeah.
	He wished he could stop all fossil fuels before they were discovered.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, what are you going to do?
	Carbon higher than ever.
	Here's a PBS report.
	Carbon higher than ever.
	Yes, this is kind of an Agenda 2030-ish show.
	There is word that global carbon emissions have reached record new highs in 2018, rising the most in seven years.
	An international scientific group, the Global Carbon Project, makes that projection based on figures from the U.S., China, Europe, and India.
	The findings mean some of the goals of the 2015 International Paris Climate Accord may be nearly out of reach.
	We're not going to make it.
	It's out of reach.
	It's out of reach.
	We're going to see what happens.
	We're going to die.
	Well, maybe improve things.
	Anything good comes of anything.
	You know, Gene, Sir Gene, I had lunch with him and Dan Benjamin on Friday.
	Interesting little lunch.
	Yeah, and he had his producer with him.
	Dan does all the production for his network there.
	And I don't know, I kind of hung back on this conversation, just listened, but Gene was talking about the dinosaurs.
	They're nerds.
	They were talking about some show or something.
	Maybe it was Jurassic Park 18.
	I don't know what they're talking about.
	But Gene's a reptile guy.
	Nice setup.
	Yeah, Gene's a reptile guy.
	He's got the big snakes and everything.
	Oh, yeah.
	He knows all about reptiles.
	He says, actually, the problem we have today is we don't have enough carbon dioxide.
	He said, we don't have enough.
	In order to have more oxygen, which could sustain dinosaurs because their lungs are so big, there's literally not enough...
	I'm paraphrasing.
	There's not enough oxygen components in the air that we breathe to keep the dinosaur alive.
	That's the difference with back when the dinosaurs were around because the CO2 levels were incredibly high.
	Everything was incredibly green and the earth was a great place except for the dinosaurs.
	So his thesis is we need a lot more of CO2.
	If we had more CO2, we'd have – it would be greener.
	Yeah, we'd have more trees and the trees give off.
	What is that stuff?
	Oh, yeah, oxygen.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is not an unknown thesis, by the way.
	This has been presented before.
	I say gene for climate czar, is what I say.
	Crank up the CO2. Before we go to a break, just a quick note.
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	And I'm referring now to the deplatforming from Patreon of Milo Yuppinopoulos.
	Well, I thought there was more than just him.
	I thought they deplatformed about five or six people.
	Oh, yeah.
	And they already did Alex Jones.
	Oh, yes.
	No, there's several of them.
	But the reason, and they sent him an email, the reason he was deplatformed because of his association with the Proud Boys.
	Yeah.
	And it doesn't even specify.
	I think it even says your association in the past was With Proud Boys, who, you know, have been falsely called...
	Some marginalized group.
	I don't even...
	I'm not even too familiar with them.
	Well, this is Gavin McGinnis.
	This is the guy who started...
	What is it?
	Vice.
	Vice, exactly.
	And, you know, they were very quickly by the Southern Poverty Law Center, who work with the FBI, deemed as an extremist group, although the FBI... You know, that's been reprinted.
	It's kind of like, you know, 97% of scientists agree.
	Ah...
	The Proud Boys are an extremist group, they're racist, they're Nazis, etc.
	I think there's enough evidence to show that they're not.
	But, I do want to go back almost a year to show you what this kind of pressure, and I'll say pressure, this also comes on the heels of the God, I'm sorry, the Pope, Tim Cook, the Pope of Silicon Valley, Make no mistake, he is the Pope.
	Because, you know, when you've got your app, your Patreon app, and that's how people use Patreon, they use the app.
	When that's on your iPhone and the App Store, you do not want to get into trouble with the Pope, with Pope Cook.
	So you have to do things.
	You have to make sure it's obvious that you're on board so you don't get deplatformed.
	That's what's happening because here is the CEO of Patreon just seven months ago speaking on the Rubin Report, Dave Rubin, about the creators.
	And this is another thing that pisses me off.
	What is this creators business?
	Yes, our creators on the platform.
	Stay off with your creators.
	I mean, that's...
	What is a creator?
	Yeah, you're right.
	It's a horrible moniker.
	Anyway, they had nothing to worry about just seven months ago.
	Do you not at all?
	Because there were a couple of pretty terrible articles written about me that talked about Patreon as well.
	Mother Jones wrote a really awful libelous piece about me.
	I'm further to the right than Breitbart or something.
	And they, by the way, in both the cases mentioned Patreon.
	Yeah.
	So you're saying that stuff has nothing to do, whether it gets across your desk or not, has nothing to do with any of this.
	says about a person or someone's opinion about a person, not in our content policy.
	You can't scale a system based on other people's opinions about people on your platform.
	That would be ineffective and just bad content policy.
	So no, I don't care who says what about you or anyone else.
	We care what you do, right?
	We care what the behaviors are that are or are not against the content policy.
	And by the way, gosh, one thing I feel like I just have to say, I want to send this message.
	That's why you're here.
	Bring it.
	Creators watching this, you just don't have to worry about this shit.
	You just don't have to worry about it.
	People like you and most people who are engaging in healthy dialogue and talking about tough issues, this is just not something that concerns most creators.
	And it kills me a little bit that there's this fear.
	One of the things Sam Harris said in the podcast where he talked about leaving Patreon.
	It was like, there's this wave of deplatformings.
	And it kills me that there's that fear there.
	And it doesn't have to be there for most creators.
	Okay, creators.
	Nothing to be afraid of, creators.
	Gosh.
	Gosh.
	We need to bring gosh back.
	It's so cute, gosh.
	Oh, gosh, golly.
	Gosh, golly, gee.
	Oh, gosh.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you recall, when Patreon was first introduced to the scene...
	We had a lot of people of our producers on our show saying, I don't know why you're using PayPal.
	I don't know why you're doing this.
	You should use Patreon.
	You should use Patreon.
	And even though people like Jen Briney, who knows how to do all this without Patreon, she even did Patreon as an additional.
	And you could see it as doing some additional thing.
	You put Patreon on there, too.
	But we were against it.
	Because it was a, I mean, PayPal has deplatformed people too, and that's always a risk.
	But this is like a, this is, but Patreon's got a, you know, seems to have more common sense about it.
	It's about them making money.
	Yeah.
	And it's not about a lot of others.
	And it's not this kind of this middleman who probably does a lot of the business through Patreon, So why would you use a middleman like this and then you're at their beckon?
	And we looked at the terms of service.
	Yeah.
	And there was a lot of stuff in there that we didn't like.
	There's nothing like that with PayPal.
	There's no terms of service about what we do.
	No, there is one thing you can't do.
	You can't disparage PayPal.
	Oh yes, PayPal does have a non-disparagement clause, which is fairly recent.
	Yeah, but you cannot say shit about PayPal.
	So we actually don't disparage PayPal, but I don't see any reason to disparage them anyway, because we've had nothing but good luck with them, even though others have some complaints.
	But it's beside the point.
	Patreon is introduced as a system that takes – it just doesn't make any sense to me.
	I would much rather encourage people sending checks where there's no – the bank takes their little transaction fees, but Patreon does this, and then they have control of your operation.
	We have with PayPal and MailChimp, which is another operation that's deplatformed people, but we have the mailing lists.
	We have – I get – every customer that's ever paid us through PayPal, I have their email and their home address, and I can get all that information.
	What do I get from Patreon?
	It's just I never liked the idea of this operation.
	No.
	And I don't see what it does that you can't do yourself.
	And, you know, that's part of it.
	It's just laziness, I think.
	This is lazy.
	And here's the other thing.
	Let me give you this.
	This is one of those.
	I really like PayPal.
	If you've noticed, anyone who gets the newsletter will notice this.
	We have these offers that change.
	And I change the offers, like, constantly.
	And it's a matter of a little, it's not even coding.
	It's PayPal does all this work to create new buttons.
	And so I have like probably four pages of – I think we've added 400 different offers over the years.
	Some of them are long gone and we don't use them anymore, but they're still there.
	And you can keep creating new ideas.
	Oh, let's do a special because we have show 1100 coming up, which will be our first show of the year 2019.
	It will be show 1100.
	And I can do a special – a whole series of special offers.
	And like Patreon doesn't give you any of that.
	Here's your goal.
	Here, give us some money.
	I mean, it's just so simplistic.
	Thank you.
	You cannot leverage anything with Patreon.
	I really don't like the way they're set up.
	It just doesn't make any sense if you're into marketing in the least.
	It's just like, why don't you just...
	Throw away half your income because that's what you're doing when you're using an operation.
	That's exactly right.
	And again, I'm going to say that this deplatforming, ever since Pope Collins, Pope Cook, came out and said, it's us, we're making technology only useful for good.
	That was the moment, and of course they were also the first ones to deplatform Alex Jones.
	everybody went after that is because they hold immense power with their app store.
	It is because all the journos have iPhones, all the elites have iPhones and you do not want to be deep platform.
	So if you're promoting a guy who is associated with the proud boys and you've already been to platform from someplace once and you're on Patreon and This guy's thinking, holy crap, we gotta get him and anybody else off because otherwise the Pope will take us off the App Store.
	It's a cavalcade, cascade of deplatforming.
	Oh, so you think that Patreon is shaking in its boots.
	Yes, of course they are.
	Their app is incredibly important to their business.
	They need to...
	People use Patreon, I think, through their app.
	I'm pretty sure.
	You're probably right.
	And they can't have that association.
	I really never understood why people wanted us to use it.
	But I think it's because there's a certain kind of a...
	Well, I'm on Patreon.
	Let me click, click.
	I'll give these guys $5 and these guys $1, $1, $5, $4 to them.
	In fact, we make donating hard.
	What's our donation URL? Is it donate to noagendashow.com?
	Is it noagendashow slash donate?
	No!
	It's dvorak.org slash NA. It's the stupidest marketing move we've ever made, but...
	We have a jingle.
	We have a jingle.
	Now, before I go into the break, I did want to read this quick note from Miranda regarding Tim Cook, Pope Cook.
	I have two degrees in English and writing.
	I just wanted to comment on the Deus Ex Machina explanation by Tim Cook.
	And this was his, you know, the machine.
	We built the machine and we are the god in the machine.
	We, all of us, Silicon Valley, we are the gods.
	I am the Pope of Hellfire!
	We're going to get a literary definition, which is more accurate.
	Much more accurate.
	Deus Ex Machina.
	To clarify, the machines functioned to bring the gods, as characters, to the stage at the end of the play to rescue the protagonist of the play.
	However, what's interesting to me, and what Pope Cook did not mention, is the impossible situation the protagonist was being rescued from was usually the violent undoing or murder of all the supporting characters.
	It's called deplatforming now.
	One of the most famous examples in Medea being rescued by Jason's chariot after she slaughters all of her children.
	I thought it was interesting and possibly ironic that he was framing his analogy in a benevolent light when the tradition usually revolves around horrific acts and total destruction in the world in which the play takes place.
	So, will Apple be ultimately resolved from their sins?
	Think about it.
	Thank you, Miranda.
	I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on your agenda in the morning.
	And indeed, we do mention the people that give us help and support the show and produce the show and In fact...
	Twice a show, Kimberly Davis at the top of the list here in Enid, Oklahoma, $133.33.
	She needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	I'm going to read her note.
	She's going to want some Nancy Jobs.
	We'll put that at the end for her.
	Currently in pilot training for the U.S. Air Force in the 33rd Flying Training Squadron.
	Boom!
	Send pictures.
	Two more graded flights till I find out what's next for me.
	Thanks for the great show.
	Adam, I will email you next time I bring a jet down to Austin.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yes!
	Oh, wow.
	Cool.
	Cool.
	Arthur, Arthur, Sir Arthur Gobitz, Sir Hugger of Kitties.
	Gobitz, Gobitz, Gobitz.
	$123.45.
	He's got a birthday coming up, and he needs some jobs.
	I'll put that at the end with Kimberly's.
	Carl Schneider in Lake Bay, Washington, $109.20.
	He says, oh, Gobitz was $123.45.
	By the way, he did say that show 1092 is probably one of the best he's ever heard.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	I think it was one of the best we've done for about a year.
	Huh.
	And I gave it a high rating in the family.
	You gave it an A-minus in the family.
	Yeah, the family got an A-minus, which is very rare.
	Yeah, families are rough on us.
	Tex.
	8008 boobs in Richmond, Virginia.
	Nice little town.
	Baron Mark Tanner came in twice.
	First time with 6789.
	He's in Whittier, California.
	He'll come in again with lesser amounts.
	I don't know why he did this.
	Brian Pearson, 6666.
	Sir Craig Porter, 6006 in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
	He says, little boob donation for you guys for having FPS Russia on the Darwin GIF section.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	What's that?
	It was one of the GIFs that was on the newsletter.
	John Fitzpatrick in Heber Springs, Arkansas.
	Ghost Chiefs.
	Ben, good luck.
	Ben Klinger in Toledo, Ohio, 60.
	David Galloway, 5510 in Flower Mound, Texas.
	Chris Kinney.
	Sir Greg of Parts Unknown, double nickels on the dime, also 5510.
	Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades in Sammamish, Washington.
	A little jobs camera for his wife, Laura, coming up.
	Sir Up in Seattle, Washington, 5133.
	Baron Mark Tanner again, 5111.
	Edward Gartland in Menden, New York.
	And he needs some health camera for Dash.
	All right.
	Apparently, he already said it worked.
	He sent a nice little note.
	Drew Mochak in El Cerrito, 50.
	These are all $50 donors, name and location.
	This is a short list, by the way.
	Drew Mochak in El Cerrito, Dan Doring in Parts Unknown, Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio, Sir Edward Mazurik in Memphis, Tennessee, Joseph Pumphrey in Brandon, Mississippi, Heather Rodriguez in Stockton, California.
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	And last but not least, Sir Alan Bean, who will be listed today because he's now become a Viscount.
	Hey, that's right.
	It's on the list.
	Beyond Barron is heading to Duke.
	On his way.
	Fantastic.
	I want to thank all these folks for helping us produce show 1093.
	You know, something was posted on Twitter the other day, just to give you an idea of who some of the people are that support this program.
	Nussbaum.
	Nussbaum is what?
	Is he Grand Duke?
	No, he's an Archduke.
	Archduke, that's right.
	Archduke.
	He posted a piece of a military award, a naval award he received.
	Yeah.
	Did you see this thing?
	No, I missed it.
	Electronics warfare technician, first class, surface warfare, aviation warfare, Thomas R. Nussbaum, United States Navy.
	He received this citation for, or this award for, professional achievement in the superior performance of duties while serving as information warfare watch officer and information warfare planner assigned to Commander, Carrier Group 2 from June 2002 to May 2003.
	Petty Officer Nussbaum spearheaded the Commander, Task Force 6-0 Psychological Operations Program.
	He fabricated a PSYOP interface box, which provided the U.S. Navy with its first organic PSYOP radio delivery capability.
	Are you kidding me?
	These are the people that support and produce this show.
	Yeah.
	And he got an award for his outstanding work as a psychological warfare officer.
	That's why they love this show, because we know all about this stuff.
	Yeah.
	Not us, but Nussbaum sure does if we ever need him.
	Well, Nussbaum for sure.
	Hey, thank you everybody for supporting the program.
	Nussbaum!
	And thank you everybody who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity, or if you're on one of the subscription programs, check them all out and support the work for our Thursday show at dvorak.org.
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	We got some health.
	We got some jobs as well.
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	And today being the 9th of December, 2018, winding down the year with the birthdays for today.
	Lisa Long says happy birthday to her husband, Sir Daniel Huckstein, celebrates on the 21st of December.
	Sir Sean of Slovakia will be celebrating on Tuesday, the 11th.
	And finally, Sir Arthur Gobetz, Sir Hugger of Kitties, protector of the Groninger gas fields, Bernd von Schlosser to Huizinga, 48 years old, on December 12th.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Then we do have a daming.
	Very nice.
	She gets the stage all to herself.
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	Congratulations to them and thank you again for your courage and for support of the work here at the No Agenda Show.
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	And we're back.
	We are back.
	Yes.
	A couple of little side things.
	They got the Kevin Hart story, which I think is funny.
	It's funny in a very sad way.
	But, yeah, this is his tweets from 2009.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of them.
	I have a bunch of them.
	And my question is, Were they funny in 2009?
	They might have been.
	I don't know if the word fag was funny back then or his role in the comedic realm made it okay for him.
	I'm sure in context it was perfectly fine back then.
	I don't know if it was.
	I do have the story of him being bounced and I do have a part of his gay bashing stand-up routine.
	Yeah!
	Which one did we do first?
	Which is kind of what his tweets were like.
	It was pretty, the stand-up routine seems pretty mild.
	I think Eddie Murphy had more gay-bashing material than this guy.
	But let's play the background so we can get this.
	This is a little, what do you call it, the real news segment.
	Kevin Hart found the Oscars.
	And the host of this year's Oscars, Kevin Hart, has stepped down following public outcry over his past homophobic tweets.
	Most were posted from 2009 to 2011, and some were deleted.
	Last night, the actor and comedian tweeted that he didn't want to be a distraction and he apologized for, quote, insensitive words from my past.
	And now back to real.
	There it is.
	So most of it would be I think most of his gay tweets or anti-gay tweets are just gay.
	I don't know what to call them.
	They're just snide comments.
	But this pretty much based on this little segment from one of his stand-up routines, which has been reposted on most of the stories about this.
	I got a lot of fears, man.
	I got a lot of fears as a parent.
	I'm gonna tell you guys one of my biggest fears.
	One of my biggest fears is my son growing up and being gay.
	That's a fear.
	Keep in mind, I'm not homophobic.
	I have nothing against gay people.
	Be happy.
	Do what you want to do.
	But me being a heterosexual male, if I can prevent my son from being gay, I will.
	Now, with that being said, I don't know if I handle my son's first gay moment correctly.
	Like...
	Every kid has a gay moment, okay?
	Every kid.
	But when it happens, you gotta nip it in the bud.
	You gotta stop it right there.
	Hey!
	Stop!
	That's gay!
	It's quick.
	Now, I don't know...
	I don't know if I handle my son's situation right, okay?
	He's at a birthday party, right?
	My son at a birthday party, he's playing.
	You know when kids play, they just play.
	You don't know what they're doing, but they're having a good time.
	They're just doing a bunch of stuff, right?
	I'm moving around.
	I said, okay, he's good.
	I finished talking.
	I turned back around to check on my son again.
	A little boy was grinding on my son's ass.
	He was like this.
	I didn't know what to do.
	I panicked.
	I knocked them both down.
	Hey, what's going on here?
	What kind of party is this?
	Huh?
	What kind of party is this?
	What's going on here?
	This lady came out.
	She's like, what are you doing?
	They kids.
	Let them play.
	I said, well, you show me another kid getting fucked in the ass.
	And I'll come back.
	My son had on corduroys.
	That's why I had an attitude.
	Because I didn't see it.
	I heard it.
	All I heard was...
	I said, what the...
	Who the hell is playing cards?
	What is that?
	Is somebody shuffling cards?
	They're too young for spades here.
	The thing to piss me off.
	The thing to piss me off, man.
	I was eating a buffalo wing when it happened.
	I should have dropped the wing and ran over there, but I licked my fingers first.
	I didn't mean it.
	I said, hey!
	Boy!
	The black in me came out.
	Okay.
	Now contrast that.
	Just stay in that moment.
	Not even ten years ago.
	Contrast that with this piece about Joanna Olsen.
	She is from the Division of Adolescent Medicine at Children's Hospital Los Angeles, and she does research on transgender youth.
	And you will understand why Kevin Hart is not hosting the Oscars.
	The research that I do, in addition to the clinical work that I do, is really involved with understanding what these young people experienced.
	What is their experience as a young person who doesn't feel like they were born in the body that matches their internal sense of their gender?
	You know, there's astounding rates of suicide attempts among trans youth.
	So about 50% of trans youth have attempted suicide by the time they're age 20.
	So this is a serious public health implication.
	So for those young kids who are starting puberty and have strong gender identities that don't match their bodies, those young people can really benefit from not ever going through the wrong puberty the first time.
	And older kids or adults who have already gone through their endogenous puberty, those young people have to go through a second puberty.
	Well, we don't even like going through one puberty.
	Frankly, nobody really likes it the first time.
	So it's very hard for them.
	It's much easier if we can halt their puberty early on in the process and let them be suspended for a little bit and then put them through the right puberty that corresponds to their brain.
	This is what we do over in our program.
	If we get kids early enough in the process, we put them on puberty blockers or medications that actually keep their body from progressing through that wrong puberty.
	If they come in older, they may be appropriate patients to go on to hormones that will allow them to either feminize or masculinize their body, which gives them a body that's much closer to their internal gender identity.
	And so I'm really hoping that people understand.
	This lives in the medical world.
	It necessitates for some people medical intervention, and that's really important.
	And it has to stop being a political and religious issue, a mental health issue.
	The mental health piece of it comes from the way that the outside world responds to these young people, and adults as well, but because I work with young people, that's who I understand, and I understand the experiences and the trauma That they undergo because they don't have an aligned gender identity in the rest of their body.
	So without judging...
	Oh my God!
	Without judging either one, I just want to show the contrast between 10 years ago, Kevin Hart making...
	That's a skit.
	It's a written bit.
	Shtick.
	Shtick.
	And tweeting about that.
	At the same time, and it was clearly okay.
	It was okay from Kevin at the time.
	It was okay with Twitter at the time.
	And now you see what is happening.
	Oh, by the way, it's nothing.
	The mental issues, it all only comes after the fact.
	Two doctors seriously telling us it's a good idea to administer drugs to delay puberty so the child can go through the right puberty and not the wrong puberty.
	That clip almost made me ill.
	I'll give you Clip of the Day, by the way.
	I'll take it.
	I think it's deserved because it's insane.
	Clip of the Day.
	Child abuse is what I would say.
	I would say it's child abuse.
	And it also contradicts the idea that we're all kind of the same.
	It doesn't make any difference if you're a man or a woman.
	We're all equal, equal, equal.
	So egalitarians...
	We'd say, what difference does it make?
	What's the point of stopping the natural process and just letting that go through?
	Because at the end of the day, we're pretty much all the same and we just live with their personality quirks.
	That's what we're told.
	That's what we're supposed to believe, yes.
	Yeah, well, that's kind of a change now.
	Yes.
	I'm telling you, it's just an attempt.
	It's just more de-balling of the male.
	Amsterdam is seriously considering canceling the Gay Canal Pride Parade.
	Why?
	Yeah, the Gay Pride Canal Parade, which is a big deal.
	Yeah, why?
	Well, you know, remember, these are the people who removed the I Amsterdam sign.
	Well, you know, it's getting a little out of hand.
	You know, it's a little too much for the city.
	I think it's the gays.
	I think that there's something about the particularly white gay males that are no longer fitting in the LGBTQIAAPK equation.
	I think they're starting to be shunned.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you've probably heard this out before.
	This is like a kind of a subtext of the gay non-community.
	Yes, the actual, the OG gays, the original gays, the gay guys, because, you know, women, gays, we're called lesbians, I don't know, whatever you're called, it doesn't matter.
	I'm just saying, they're being singled out.
	They're getting in trouble.
	Taking away that party.
	Two things I want to get out of the way because it's important.
	Okay.
	One is the Huawei arrest.
	Yes, thank you.
	Let's do that right now, because I knew you were going to be on it, because you promised that in the newsletter, and you actually were, which is fantastic.
	Tell me all about it.
	I promise more than I deliver usually, but...
	I've not focused on it.
	Let's play this clip.
	A Chinese telecommunications executive is facing multiple fraud charges in the United States for allegedly violating U.S. sanctions against Iran.
	Huawei's chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou was arrested on Saturday in Canada at the request of the U.S. Today she appeared in a Vancouver court for her bail hearing.
	Her arrest sparked fears of an escalation in a trade war between the U.S. and China.
	Huawei is the world's largest supplier of phone and Internet technology.
	U.S. intelligence agencies have accused the company of spying for China.
	Okay.
	I believe this was done by the deep state and against Trump's wishes.
	It's interesting you say that.
	That's exactly the first thing I thought, is this is to muck up whatever Trump is trying to do with China.
	Yeah.
	And this is the daughter of the founder of the company.
	I mean, there's all kinds of dimensions to it.
	And now you start hearing from the mainstream media, oh, she can get life in prison.
	She's not going to get a day in prison.
	She's They may fine the company, but this is just an attempt to embarrass the administration.
	I'm convinced.
	I agree with you.
	I totally agree.
	I think that's exactly what happened there.
	And it has to do with her involvement in an operation in 2009, I believe.
	She's not even involved with anything.
	But this is something of a scam.
	But we'll see.
	I mean, nobody likes Huawei.
	So let's start with that premise.
	So there's that element.
	Nobody likes Huawei.
	They are considered dirty players in the telecom business.
	Their whole idea is, and I've been told this by people who have worked there.
	I got the same story in Brazil from somebody who worked there.
	I got the story in Europe from somebody who worked.
	I got the story here.
	Here's the way they do it.
	They got a couple of guys spying on Ericsson.
	Ericsson goes into a company, Company Z, and makes an offer about some big telecom deal, and then they leave.
	Boom.
	The Huawei people go in and they say, what did Ericsson, what was their price?
	We'll cut it in half.
	What do they offer?
	We'll do half.
	We'll do it for half the price.
	And that's their whole business model.
	That's their business model, yes.
	Which is following around Ericsson salesmen.
	Right.
	So they, and there's some belief that maybe they have some back doors, but I don't actually, I actually don't believe that.
	I think people just irk by the fact that their business model is so sleazy.
	Well, isn't that kind of what China does, just in general?
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But these guys are, these guys are really good at it.
	I ran into them once at a trade show way when they were half away.
	They were, it's right at the beginning, and they were creepy.
	It was a creepy operation.
	It was always secretive.
	They wouldn't talk, you know, it was They didn't like talking to the news media.
	It's like they were doing something wrong.
	So they have a guilty conscience.
	But they apparently make a nice smartphone.
	I think that's what I'm going to get when I upgrade.
	That's what all the Europeans are buying, Huawei phones.
	They're really moving away from the iPhone, at least just in the general population, the popular kind of thing that's going on.
	Yeah, well, it's a nice phone.
	They've got some nice colors of the cases.
	It's a really pretty phone.
	It's very metallic.
	It's modern looking.
	It's pretty close to the Google model for the Android.
	It doesn't have all the extra features that kind of muck it up the way Samsung does it.
	So, I don't know.
	Just thinking about it.
	That's the Huawei story.
	So, I don't know where this is going, but I will follow it.
	Okay, excellent.
	Also, another story that got my attention is the Don Hewitt is now a creep CBS story that was presented to us by NBC. CBS, as far as I know, did not play this story.
	Sexual misconduct and secrecy at CBS News, this time involving the late Don Hewitt, the man behind 60 Minutes.
	NBC's Ann Thompson has the details.
	Don Hewitt created 60 Minutes.
	Good evening.
	Over 36 years building a legacy of journalistic excellence, ratings dominance, and now allegedly sexual harassment.
	The New York Times reporting in the 90s, CBS settled with a female employee who claimed Hewitt sexually assaulted her several times and ruined her career.
	This according to a draft investigative report looking into CBS's culture.
	The original settlement, reports the paper, was for $450,000.
	It's been amended six times and now exceeds $5 million, plus $75,000 a year.
	Hewitt died in 2009.
	Why is CBS still paying this money?
	Clearly CBS still wants to keep this woman quiet, and the payments that they've agreed to stretch until the end of her life.
	CBS had no response.
	Investigators reportedly say the misconduct of Hewitt's successor, Jeff Fager, was less severe.
	Fager was fired after sending a threatening text message to a CBS News reporter covering allegations against him.
	According to the Times, investigators say the firing was justified.
	Fager said he was only demanding fairness in coverage and regrets how he did it.
	Still unknown who will be the next leader of CBS's legendary broadcast.
	Ann Thompson, NBC News, New York.
	Wow, what a hit piece.
	And what a great story.
	What a story.
	Gets paid until the rest of her life.
	It's like the lotto.
	What a win.
	Ruined her career.
	Who cares?
	Ruin mine, please.
	That's crazy.
	I wonder what happened.
	That's 450.
	I wonder what happened and I wonder who this is and now the way they presented the story, it's like we have to find out.
	I don't know if we can because it's really under lock and key.
	Wasn't Hewitt, didn't he kill the anti-tobacco story on 60 Minutes?
	Wasn't that him?
	I think it may have been him, yeah.
	What the heck did he, and why is this coming out now?
	What is the point?
	This is an NBC hit piece.
	But they don't care about the victim who has been carefully kept quiet and she's gotten her due for sure for her career being ruined.
	She has income for the rest of her life.
	I mean, I don't know what happened.
	I'm just going on the facts.
	Sounds like, okay.
	And then why?
	Why are we going to do this?
	Just to make CBS look like crap because they don't have a...
	Well, now that Moonves is gone, Moonves...
	Yeah, it's like kicking CBS when they're down.
	Well, that's...
	You might as well.
	What am I saying?
	Of course!
	Maybe the only shot you have.
	Way to go.
	Perfect.
	Oh, yes.
	It's so great knowing that neither of us will ever be pulled into one of those scandals.
	That much, I know.
	Yeah, we haven't, yeah.
	We're lightweight, to say the least, by that comparison.
	Oh, boy.
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