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	My mind is exploding right now.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, December 6th, 2018.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1092.
	This is No Agenda.
	Monitoring the God in the Machine and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in downtown Austin, Tejas, in the Cludio, in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the local Whole Foods has a sale on pepperoncini.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	I don't see how you can frequent that establishment anymore, knowing how evil Amazon is.
	Thanks.
	Thank you.
	That's convenient.
	It's either that or Sprouts.
	Yes, yes.
	Well, there was a lot of news and no news.
	It was very interesting.
	There was no news because it was all about George Herbert Walker Bush.
	Well, I disagree.
	I think there was a lot of news and not all of it was about George H.W. or whatever.
	Although most of it was, you're right.
	And I'll say this kind of the same thing I said about John McCain, because it may look very odd to a lot of people, certainly don't live in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	It's like, well, this guy did a lot of bad stuff, responsible for a lot of dead people and a lot of horrific events.
	And yeah, that's what we do.
	We recognize that and we still say, hey man, Thanks for being part of the American experience.
	Good work.
	We really appreciate it.
	Well, if you want to go down that road, I have the right clips.
	Okay, because I feel that deep in our hearts, we're like, we know it.
	Like, eh, you know, that's who we are.
	It's not like anyone talked about the real legacy of George Herbert Walker Bush.
	Well...
	The only man who could not remember where he was the day Kennedy was assassinated.
	So let's start with, I have a series of clips here that are quite interesting because of all the news outlets, everybody's falling all over themselves, and oh, there's a great guy and great father, and we got to see George W. kind of...
	Sob a little bit.
	When I heard it, because I didn't see him with his eulogy, but I heard it, and it sounded like laughter for a moment.
	Of course, when you see it, you realize it isn't, but it was a little jarring.
	So let's start with, and I've got these aptly named, Baby Killers in Kuwait 1.
	1 Intro?
	We look back now at a largely forgotten aspect of Bush's war in Iraq, the vast domestic propaganda campaign that occurred in the United States before the invasion began.
	The story centers on a young Kuwaiti woman named Nayira.
	On October 10, 1990, the 15-year-old girl gave riveting testimony before Congress about the horrors inside Kuwait after Dr.
	Iraq invaded.
	Wait a minute.
	This was on Judy's show?
	No, not Judy.
	What's her name?
	No, no, this is Democracy Now.
	Democracy Now.
	So she actually went back to that during this time of...
	Oh, this is a great...
	Oh my goodness!
	Everybody fell all over themselves except these socialist communists on Democracy Now.
	Wow!
	They decided, why?
	Why?
	What difference is it?
	Why should we be doing that?
	So then they did a very nice four-part piece.
	Oh, that's fantastic.
	So even though it is completely un-American what they're doing, it's highly appreciated.
	Good job.
	Mr.
	Chairman and members of the committee, my name is Neira and I just came out of Kuwait.
	My sister with my five-day-old nephew traveled across the desert to safety.
	There was no milk available for the baby in Kuwait.
	They barely escaped when their car was stuck in the desert, desert sand, and help came from Saudi Arabia.
	I stayed behind and wanted to do something for my country.
	The second week after an invasion, I volunteered at the Al-Adan Hospital with 12 other women who wanted to help as well.
	I was the youngest volunteer.
	The other women were from 20 to 30 years old.
	While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers coming to the hospital with guns.
	They took the babies out of incubators, took the incubators and left the children to die on the cold floor.
	That was horrifying.
	I could not help but think of my nephew.
	Nayira's testimony was rebroadcast across the country and marked a turning point in public opinion on going to war.
	President George H.W. Bush repeatedly cited her claims.
	They had kids in incubators, and they were thrown out of the incubators so that Kuwait could be systematically dismantled.
	Three months after Naira testified, President George H.W. Bush launched the invasion of Iraq.
	But it turned out Naira's claims weren't true.
	No human rights group or news outlet could confirm what she said.
	It also turned out Naira was not just any Kuwaiti teenager.
	She was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States, Saad Nasir al-Sabah.
	She had been coached by the public relations firm Hill& Knowlton, which was working for the Kuwaiti government.
	My mind is exploding right now.
	When we talked about this at the time of it happening...
	We never talked about it at the time.
	Not at the time it was happening.
	We talked about it 10 years ago, 11 years ago.
	We've talked about it a couple of times.
	And people would say, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist.
	And now it's on Democracy Now?
	This is fantastic.
	And they're doing it on the day when everybody's eulogizing him.
	Holy smokes!
	Good stuff.
	Yes.
	Fantastic.
	Onward.
	Is that the end of clip one?
	Yeah, that is.
	Okay.
	Well, let's go right to clip two, then.
	This is discussing the propaganda.
	They brought in this guy, Rick John MacArthur, and he...
	He has a book out on this whole thing.
	He has it all documented.
	It's a very interesting book, but let's do clip two.
	We're joined now by the journalists who first revealed Naira's identity.
	Rick MacArthur, the president and publisher of Harper's Magazine, the author of the book Second Front, Censorship and Propaganda in the 1991 Gulf War.
	I mean, so, you know, as we said, this is a turning point.
	You have this teenager, this girl saying she witnessed this, that Iraqi soldiers came into Kuwait and ripped babies out of Kuwaiti incubators.
	But she was only referred to as Nayira at the time of the testimony.
	It wasn't Nayira al-Sabah, so you would know that she's the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador, who also testified in that hearing.
	Correct.
	That's all part of the propaganda plan, is to maintain her anonymity to protect her and her family against reprisals in Kuwait.
	That was the cover story.
	But of course, nobody bothered to try to find out who she really was.
	They just bought the story hook, line, and sinker, even though at the time there were a couple of human rights investigators who were becoming suspicious.
	And podcasters!
	I got onto the trail after the war, unfortunately, and was able to run down what really had happened, which was that Hill and Knowlton selected her as a persuasive witness to this atrocity, and it was all part of a campaign to turn Saddam Hussein, at least in the public consciousness, into Adolf Hitler.
	Man.
	Now, I have two clips left in this series.
	I got one clip after that.
	But I'm going to reverse the two of them because I think clip three is probably a little better as a finale for this guy.
	Okay.
	So let's jump to Baby Killers in Kuwait 4.
	I don't think I have four.
	Oh, no.
	I see it.
	And it's clear that numerous representatives and senators cited the baby incubator atrocity, which was false.
	It never happened.
	As a reason for voting for the Gulf War resolution.
	In other words, these are people who said, well, look, we could figure out other ways to get Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait.
	Economic sanctions, negotiations.
	There was a feeling that this was about oil.
	It wasn't about principle, even though Bush posed it as a matter of international law.
	But these people said, finally, look, if he's really Hitler, if he's really capable of having an army that slaughters, and it got to hundreds of babies by the time Amnesty International gave its official seal of approval to the story.
	Now, that's...
	It was inflated.
	That's very, very important about Amnesty International, the role that it played.
	It wasn't just Naira.
	It wasn't just Naira.
	Human Rights Watch fell for it.
	They were neutral, officially.
	But Amnesty International actually put the number over 300 babies.
	There weren't that many incubators in Kuwait City hospitals.
	Now, if you want to go back over the record, you'll see how badly the media, how badly the press failed in all this.
	Well, I remember my newspaper, the New York Daily News, had a front page.
	They killed the babies.
	And so the media uncritically accepted this story without any kind of check.
	Wow, he's talking about himself in the third person.
	Now, these guys, they don't see the irony in their own coverage of global warming or Trump.
	Thank you.
	Yes.
	But even his own newspaper, my own newspaper, had this bullcrap story on the front page.
	Boy, they're stupid.
	Dude, you were at the newspaper.
	I don't believe, yeah, then.
	I don't think he is anymore.
	He's, I think, at the Post or someplace else.
	Anyway, so let's listen to the final, which I've got down as clip three.
	And it has a couple of, it makes some conclusions that I think are worth noting on this celebratory week.
	And the feeling was that they couldn't sell the Gulf War without this.
	In other words, they had to cheat to win.
	And that's what interests me about the eulogies for George Bush.
	He's being presented now as this paragon of kind of WASP respectability and integrity, old school, when in fact he had a violent side to him, a very angry and violent and ruthless side to him.
	And when you see him doing the propaganda, using the Hill and Knowlton disinformation, you see a side of a politician that's kind of ugly.
	That's very interesting.
	The New York Times wrote a piece exactly with that conceit about Bush is the last of the wasps to go and how we adored the...
	I don't know if everyone understands.
	I don't even know if I can completely explain other than the acronym White Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
	What exactly?
	It's that Connecticut guy who talks like this.
	That's the wasp?
	You do him when you say conversation.
	You're constantly doing this guy.
	Conversation.
	Now, I want to add to this kind of roundup of this sort of thing.
	Pchenik had a eulogy on his site about Bush, naming all kinds of his buddies, including Don Gregg.
	And it wasn't that good because he was just kind of talking mostly about himself.
	And Pchenik didn't make this little comment here, which I think just adds on to what we just heard from MacArthur and the Democracy Now!
	people.
	But I think it was inadvertent, but I'd like to play it because it's pretty funny in context.
	Okay.
	That's interesting.
	And at that time, President Ford appointed George Bush as director of the CIA. For the most part, most people thought that was an approval and that was a sign that he was really quite competent.
	In fact, The reality was Bush did not like Cheney.
	He did not like Rumsfeld.
	And what was happening was a power play in the Republican administration where Cheney and Rumsfeld wanted to get rid of Bush.
	And the best way to do that was to become director of the CIA. Because normally when you become director, you rarely become president.
	Then I had an encounter with General Antonio Noriega when Bush was vice president to Reagan.
	Noriega said to me something interesting.
	He said that Bush had been involved in the Iran-Contra deal and had been far more resilient and tough than anybody had thought.
	Subsequent to that, I had a meeting with Pat Robertson, the head of the Evangelical Christian Union, and he was talking to me and said something very interesting.
	Here, Noriega talks about Bush as a very tough, resilient individual.
	And then I asked Pat, why did you ask me down there?
	And he told me that he was interested, he, Pat Robertson, was interested in running for President of the United States.
	And I said, why?
	He said, because he found that Bush Sr.
	was very weak.
	I paused and I looked up at him and I said, Reverend, the real issue here is that you do not understand Bush.
	Bush is not weak.
	He may be quiet.
	He may be elegant.
	He may be a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
	But trust me, he is not weak and he is quite ruthless.
	Quite ruthless.
	Yeah.
	So now with that background, you know, the guy being a ruthless character, we have these eulogies, and I would say that on Democracy Now!
	they had some of the worst, including Maureen Dowd, for some reason, they brought her on, and she's got that whining voice, like that ex-editor that we like to play clips from, you know, the one that...
	Oh, the Hummer?
	You mean Jill Abramson?
	No.
	Yeah, Jill Abrams.
	She doesn't talk as slow.
	George H. Walker Bush.
	But she talks like him.
	And so I'm going to play these two clips.
	These are both minutes long.
	This is eulogizing.
	And this is what the mainstream media was doing, which is talking about what a great guy he was.
	He wasn't ruthless.
	He was a nice guy.
	By the way, the last of the nice guys.
	And he was so much nicer than Trump.
	So much nicer than Trump.
	So let's play eulogizing G.W. Bush PBS 1.
	But we see qualities in George Bush that were not appreciated at the time.
	The modesty, the ability to reach out to the other side to try to include everyone.
	Every generation, as I say, looks for different things from a president.
	Here we are in the age of Donald Trump, a very confrontational politics, and the politics of George Bush seems like something that was light years ago, but perhaps may one day come back.
	Maureen Dowd, Michael reminds us what a painful loss that was for him in the 92 election when he lost to Bill Clinton.
	You wrote this week about your wonderful correspondence with him, being in touch with him over the years.
	How did he work his way through that?
	Oh, I think that was, you know, that was very hard for him to take because he was at 90% after, you know, the Persian Gulf War.
	And then one day in the press office, he sort of admitted that he had no interest in domestic policy.
	He really just loved being in that, you know, global club, mostly men's club.
	of deal with the domestic side and i think uh he kind of missed the moment where americans were getting anxious about you know the economy and other things and he just really gloried in the foreign affairs part of it yeah i mean let us all remember that george bush publicly used the new world order moniker yeah so you know he is he is the ultimate globalist yeah And he got booted out, too.
	And my Uncle Don loved him and worked for him and didn't cover his ass properly with Iran-Contra.
	That's why Uncle Don...
	That's my interpretation of it, of course.
	That's why he became ambassador to South Korea for a while.
	And when Obama was president, lifelong Republican Don became a Democrat.
	But that's because Obama was run by the CIA. So it was just a company man, company switch.
	And man, they hate Trump so much.
	I haven't heard from him for over a year.
	Won't even talk to me.
	Makes him spitting mad just to think about him.
	Yeah, it really does.
	It's kind of sad.
	Well, let's go to the part two where we get to listen to Maureen Just go off on Trump.
	It's not about Trump.
	We're talking about it.
	It's supposed to be all Bush, but no, no, no, no.
	Let's go off against Trump.
	But then, as we were saying, I mean, he lost, but he managed to live a full life after that.
	And you, again, in that piece you wrote this week, you captured a lot of that.
	I mean, the humor came back.
	The zest for life came back.
	Well, I think Michael's right.
	You know, when we look at it through the prism of Donald Trump, you know, one way to look at it is Bush Sr.
	would drop the first-person pronoun, personal pronoun, because his mother always told him not to use the big I, not to gloat.
	So he would start sentences like the Dana Carvey imitation, you know...
	You know, can't act, just have to be me.
	You know, he would drop the eye.
	And then now we're living in this world that's all about the eye with Donald Trump.
	You know, the whole world is having to pivot to Trump's narcissistic eye.
	You know what's also happening here, I feel, Is that the M5M hates Donald Trump so much that this is kind of like a passive-aggressive move to be so hagiography-like.
	I don't know what the word is.
	Hasiographic.
	Hasiographic, thank you.
	To be so hagiographic about Bush.
	I think some of that is in there.
	I think there's some of that in there, but I think they also have forgotten.
	Well, how could you forget the clip, Read My Lips, No New Taxes?
	Come on.
	I mean, that's in every library.
	And nobody brought that up on anything, including Democracy Now.
	They just went after the dead babies.
	Now, I have two short clips just on top of this just to show you what you were mentioning about the media being so preoccupied with Trump.
	I want to play these two clips.
	This is eulogy with Brian Mulrooney, one of the Canadian honchos for some time, eulogizing Trump as his buddy.
	And I want to play the first clip, which is one with Judy jumping in.
	And then I'm going to ask you a question.
	George put down his pen, walked over to me and said, Brian, I've just learned the fundamental principle of international affairs.
	I said, what's that, George?
	He said, the smaller the country, the longer the speech.
	Mulroney had special praise for the late president's dealings with Canada, including the trade deal ultimately signed by President Clinton and more recently rejected by President Trump.
	Okay.
	Okay, what did she say?
	She said it was signed by, you know, it was back in the day Mulroney, I guess, began it.
	Yes.
	Or Bush, I think, no, Bush started it.
	Bush started and then Clinton wound up signing it.
	Nobody liked it, by the way, when Bush started it.
	And then Clinton signed it.
	And Clinton got it going because Clinton was a smooth talker and he could convince.
	But I remember that era.
	It's like no one wanted this deal because Ross Perot was running against him.
	Oh, yes.
	And Ross Perot kept talking about the sucking sound.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	The giant sucking sound.
	You're right.
	Of the jobs going to Mexico.
	And so nobody was in for this.
	And they threatened his family and told him to shut up.
	And he did.
	It was the CIA who did that.
	Yeah, of course.
	No.
	Although we don't know.
	Now, so Bush got nothing done.
	He didn't get that done because he didn't, like they said, he didn't care about domestic policies and just thought this was a good idea, but it was kind of a globalist idea.
	Somehow Clinton got it through and then, according to Judy, Trump rejected it.
	Well, no, Trump threw in some steel and renamed it.
	Well, here's the point.
	She put in, she just right there, you heard it.
	I heard it.
	She said he rejected it.
	She put a negative spin.
	Of course.
	Now listen to what, but listen, she put a negative spin.
	She knows what the clip is.
	She's put, this is done, this was a package.
	Uh-huh.
	She knows what the clip is, so she put a negative spin on the next thing you're going to hear, and you tell me if that's not biased.
	President Bush was also responsible for the North American Free Trade Agreement, recently modernized and improved by new administrations, which created the largest and richest free trade area in the history of the world.
	She did a reverse whipsaw.
	Modernized and improved is what he said.
	Jeez.
	And she says, you know, this is putting everything in a negative light.
	I mean, it's shameful.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so that's my little thing on bullshit.
	Well, I'm going to give you Clip of the Day for the whole package, John.
	Oh, thank you.
	Clip of the Day.
	And I'm so happy that Democracy Now!
	paid off in spades!
	That, you know, just when I'm like, oh, not another Democracy Now!
	clip, it's like, wow!
	Conspiracy Now!
	You know, we always forget about the babies in the incubators as another kind of a modern false flag to get people to go to war.
	That was a total false flag.
	Like the Gulf of Tompkins was the bigger one before that, and there's been other ones.
	Yeah.
	And the public at large is, ah, you guys, that's a conspiracy.
	It's a proven fact.
	Proven fact.
	Why was it a conspiracy?
	And I recall us talking about Hill and Knowlton a lot and the jobs they did and how they did it.
	Man, we should revisit those topics.
	I actually have one.
	I have one Bush clip.
	One.
	And I was very happy that I could contribute to this otherwise fantastic compendium, and I hereby issue a...
	Homer alert.
	Homer alert.
	Oh my god!
	Woo!
	Listen to that horn!
	So this locomotive that you see here, the UP4141, was dedicated to President...
	It was unveiled in 2005 at a special transportation exhibit at his library and he was there to see the unveiling and he was thrilled with it and we've been running it around our system ever since.
	This train, this locomotive will carry the casket for President Bush from Houston to College Station for final internment.
	People are not as accustomed to travel by passenger rail on train.
	We mainly haul freight.
	But President Bush, as a veteran of World War II, he went to war on the train.
	He came home from war on the train.
	And I think that emotional connection to the railroad really stuck with him.
	So when he was planning his funeral and talking to his staff about how he wanted to be remembered, he wanted to have his final trip to College Station to be on the railroad.
	So as we go from Houston up to College Station, we will pass through several small towns.
	We'll go through Old Town Spring and we'll go through Magnolia and Navasota.
	And we anticipate that thousands of people will be lining the route at each of those locations.
	To pay their final respects to President Bush.
	It's a great opportunity for all the people in this part of Texas to really participate in a very historic occasion.
	I was just tearing up hearing the news of the train.
	The Bush 41, the 4141 train, ladies and gentlemen.
	He's got his own locomotive.
	I saw it.
	It's beautiful.
	Gosh, there it is.
	Whoa, sexy.
	It had that blue and white markings just like Air Force One.
	Personally, I think they blew an opportunity here, especially Amtrak.
	I think they could have put an Amtrak thing on there.
	It could have been trailing 20 cars.
	People could have gone on the tour.
	They could have gone on a tour, and I think it could have been nationwide.
	They could have driven this thing all over the country, getting a good publicity to Amtrak.
	With Bush still in the casket.
	With Bush still in there, in a refrigerated car.
	And I was on the train with the corpse of George H.W. Bush and it was fantastic.
	And they can get top dollar.
	And they can run it all over the country, get nothing but good publicity and make some money on the side.
	I don't get it.
	All aboard trains good.
	Alright, let me grab the wheel for a second.
	Something we've been talking about.
	I think it's been much more your topic for a decade.
	Probably, maybe just about a decade.
	It finally happened.
	So heretofore, Tumblr had allowed adult content.
	So naturally, communities sort of built up around that.
	This was the place you could feature adult content.
	Originally, people had migrated from LiveJournal when they started banning adult content to Tumblr.
	So this became a place where people thought that you could put it.
	And now that's no longer the case.
	And what's behind that decision?
	A few things.
	Tumblr was purchased by Verizon last year.
	That might have something to do with it.
	That might have something to do with it.
	Can you imagine the Verizon executives in the board meetings?
	I'm saying, do you guys know what's on this Tumblr thing that this Marissa bought?
	How much?
	Oh my God!
	What was it, $2 billion?
	What did she pay for it?
	It was a lot.
	I don't know what she paid for, but it was the most idiotic...
	I mean, unless she really...
	I have to assume she just likes porn.
	She likes porn.
	That's the only conclusion.
	Tumblr was purchased by Verizon last year.
	That might have something to do with it.
	And then after this child porn incident on Apple, they really had to reconsider...
	Yeah, so this is what really went down, is Apple removed their app from the App Store for some child pornography.
	And this is all part of the big purge.
	This is the tech giants of the world who are going to...
	I really started to focus on this and Tim Cook actually really brought it into view for me.
	It goes beyond some kind of liberalism that we understand what's better for everybody and that's why we're throwing people off, shadow banning, deplatforming, demonetizing.
	What are all the adjectives we have for it?
	There's a lot.
	But there's an actual belief that they are...
	What?
	It was de-adgetizing or whatever that word was.
	Demonetizing.
	Demonetizing.
	Yeah, demonetizing.
	I'm demonetized, bro.
	Sucks.
	But that's what that one lady went and shot up Twitter for.
	Because they demonetized her.
	Or YouTube.
	They demonetized her.
	Remember?
	Yeah.
	California.
	So, but what I've, I've come to the conclusion, I have three clips from Tim Cook.
	And you may have seen a very short bit, and this is really the work that I've been focusing on more often now, is whenever there's some meme that goes around, which everyone's like, ha ha ha, look at this, oh crazy outrageous, blah, blah, blah.
	You gotta go look at the full thing.
	Because not only is it often out of context and therefore void, sometimes the real meat is elsewhere in the story.
	And it's really being obfuscated by a little clip.
	But I think the elites in Silicon Valley and Tim Cook is going to be at the top of this pyramid, truly believe they have the power to make the world a better place.
	But it's religious at this point.
	So he was given an award by the ADL, the Anti-Defamation League.
	It's the Courage Against Hate Award, the first one, which is always...
	You've got to wonder about these things.
	I remember we needed Michael Jackson to perform on the Video Music Awards at MTV. And the dealing starts.
	Well, then you have to do this.
	You've got to play this video.
	And then we also said, well, we'll give you an award.
	It'll be the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award of the Year.
	Named after him, and I think J-Lo just received it, and it is presented as the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award of the Year.
	We also, by the way, promised that we would always say Michael Jackson followed by the King of Pop.
	And we did.
	In fact, we once had to record a whole weekend all over again because we hadn't been told we had to do it.
	Anyway, I digress.
	So Tim Cook...
	No, I don't think that's a digression.
	That idea that you have to say the king of pop was ridiculous.
	That we had to go back and re-record everything because we didn't say it.
	That was ridiculous.
	That was off the hook.
	That was two days of work.
	So Cook receives this award, and so he's clearly there to present a message.
	And in these three clips, I put these into three categories.
	The first one is, we are holy.
	We're technology, we're holy, and we're goodness.
	The second clip includes the little bit that you may have seen online, and it's about the values.
	And what our values are is our holiness.
	And the third clip is really what blew me away.
	By itself, it doesn't work.
	You have to kind of hear them in sequence, where I believe he is thinking that he is God.
	Not him, but Apple and maybe just technology.
	So let's start with his opening intro here as he explains how holy they are.
	This may sound simple, but it's not said often enough.
	Apple is a technology company, but we never forget that the devices we make are imagined by human minds, built by human hands, and are meant to improve human lives.
	I sometimes say that I worry less about computers that think like people and more about people that think like computers.
	A tepid applause.
	Without values or compassion, without concern for consequences.
	And so we try to stay rooted and to keep our devices connected to the humanity that makes us us.
	So you feel where I'm coming from with this holy stuff?
	He's full of himself.
	I must say, as an editorial decision, each of these clips has about 30 edits because Tim Cook talks like this and makes a point sometimes with a lot of space.
	Well, I'll tell you the edits are fine because it's still got the right rhythm.
	It sounds like he's actually talking.
	Okay.
	Good work.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	This is the longest of the three, but this is where we get down into the meat of the values, what Apple will and will not stand for.
	And please keep in the backdrop that all technology, all technology can be used for good or bad.
	You know, are cars great technology?
	Are they technology?
	Of course they're technology.
	You can use them for transportation, but you can also mow people down on the street with it.
	Baseball bat.
	Baseball bat, yes.
	Fire is a technology.
	I mean, everything can be used for good or for bad, but not with Apple because, well, they're holy.
	This mandate moves us to speak up for immigrants and for those who seek opportunity in the United States.
	We do it not only because their individual dignity, creativity, and ingenuity have the power to make this country an even better place, but because our own humanity commands us to welcome those who need welcome.
	It moves us to speak up for the LGBTQ community, for those whose differences can make them a target for violence and scorn.
	We do so not only because these unique and uncommon perspectives can open our eyes to new ways of thinking, but because our own dignity moves us to see the dignity in others.
	You get the feeling how noble and dignified these Apple people are?
	Yeah, I wonder how noble he feels when he pushes for immigration so he can get more H-1B workers to work cheaper than maybe somebody over 40 who he could have hired to do the same job, but he'd have to pay more money.
	Blasphemy, Dvorak!
	Blasphemy!
	Perhaps most importantly, it drives us not to be bystanders as hate tries to make its headquarters in the digital world.
	At Apple, we believe that technology needs to have a clear point of view on this challenge.
	See now, technology has a point of view.
	This is fascinating, this guy.
	And I think he's probably a really nice guy, but his milieu is just...
	I'll bet you that he was a nice guy that if you actually sat, he'd be one of those guys who never connects with you when you chat with him.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like he's out there.
	He's like...
	He's talking to you, but he's talking to something he sees.
	And you're right, because even this rhythm that he has that I screwed up a little bit by the editing, it's exactly the same as a keynote.
	He's not really connecting with the audience.
	He's delivering his prose.
	Apple, we believe that technology needs to have a clear point of view on this challenge.
	There is no time to get tied up in knots.
	That's why we only have one message for those who seek to push hate, division, and violence.
	You have no place on our platforms.
	Woo!
	Goodbye, AJ! Booyah!
	You have no home here.
	From the earliest days of iTunes to Apple Music today, we have always prohibited music with a message of white supremacy.
	You know, just a real simple one.
	I just went to iTunes when I heard this.
	I said, let me see if fuck the police are still up there.
	Of course it is.
	is, even the karaoke version.
	Because it's the right thing to do.
	And as we showed this year, we won't give a platform to violent conspiracy theorists on the App Store.
	Okay.
	Violent conspiracy theorists.
	I mean, it's one thing to say, he said white supremacists, he said hate, but now he escalated to violent conspiracy theorists.
	He's talking about Alex Jones.
	Is he violent?
	Yes.
	Not that I know of.
	Okay, so a conspiracy theorist is okay, but if I punch an old lady, then I get deplatformed?
	I don't know what he means by violent.
	Well, he's equating words to physical harm, I guess.
	Oh, that could be.
	And as we showed this year, we won't give a platform to violent conspiracy theorists on the App Store.
	Wooo!
	Why?
	Because it's the right thing to do.
	My friends, if we can't be clear on moral questions like these, then we've got big problems.
	At Apple, we are not afraid to say that our values drive our curation decisions.
	Curation.
	And why should we be?
	Curation.
	Doing what's right.
	That's pretty interesting to say curation because, you know, well, I guess they don't really fall under Section 230.
	I don't know if they claim they do.
	So yeah, you're curating.
	You have every right to throw off what you want.
	That's fine.
	But...
	We'll talk about what that could mean in a minute.
	We use drive our curation decisions.
	And why should we be?
	Doing what's right, creating experiences free from violence and hate, experiences that empower creativity and new ideas, is what our customers want us to do.
	Technology should be about human potential.
	It should be about optimism.
	And we believe the future should belong to those who use technology to build a better, more inclusive and more hopeful world.
	Teach the world to sing.
	After all, history is full of examples of what can happen when those with power and those who ought to have good judgment instead look the other way.
	Now what he's saying at the very end there is there's examples in history where those with power Really mess things up by looking the other way.
	And in this case, he's not referring to Trump.
	He's referring to Apple.
	He's referring to us as us themselves.
	They have the power and they are taking a stand.
	And I don't know, I guess fuck the police is not violence in their mind.
	That's okay.
	That's completely up to them.
	I'm sure you can find plenty of other examples and maybe some of our producers can find a few.
	Oh, there's tons of them.
	But it's, you know, it's whatever Apple's values are.
	This is very important.
	This is how Hillary Clinton lost the election.
	This is how Apple is going to lose their ass.
	Now, the last bit here, he brings up the Greek Dua es machina.
	God in the machine.
	And I left his explanation of what...
	I cut it up a little bit, but I left his explanation of what that is, where it comes from in there, only just so you can hear the bad joke that he makes.
	But then listen to it, his explanation of what that means, God in the machine, and to me, his clear...
	Belief that they at Apple are the god in the machine.
	You might know the phrase deus ex machina, god from the machine.
	For those who don't, it's an idea that started as a bit of an inside joke among the ancient Greek playwrights.
	Basically, it's a critique of a bad habit.
	These playwrights like to get their characters into impossibly perilous situations and then rescue them at the last minute by some miraculous twist in the story.
	Often the actors were even physically hoisted out of danger by a crane or some other elaborate machine.
	In other words, Deus Ex Machina is how the first movie critics accused the first directors of using special effects to cover up this lazy screenwriting.
	Bomb!
	But this idea of God from the machine has stayed with us through the ages because it's so comforting.
	Just when the world seems to be getting more dangerous, just when it seems like the challenges may be greater than our ability to solve them, it's reassuring to think that some technological marvel, some creation of our own hands, We'll solve the problem for us.
	But what I admire so much about the ADL is that your entire history provides a lesson here.
	If the machines we build are going to help us solve the world's problems, then the God part, that decency, mercy, and humanity, is going to have to come from all of us.
	After all, we only have one life, so why not use it to make the world a better place?
	So good!
	So real!
	So real!
	There you go.
	And, you know, when Apple deplatformed Alex Jones, Everyone else followed.
	And so this is a follow-me moment in Silicon Valley.
	And I think that he does speak for most executives, and most executives do not want their app pulled from the App Store.
	So they're all going to follow now in Apple's footsteps.
	And you can hear what it means.
	And that's just Tim Collins, Cook's Tom things.
	That's his own personal belief system.
	But I think it's going to hurt the company severely.
	I'm not going to argue with you on this.
	It's a lot of hubris.
	It takes a lot of nerves patronizing.
	It makes all kinds of assumptions that none of them are good.
	And it's like you fool yourself.
	I mean, you make phones, you make iPhones, and you make computers, and you make a few other doodads that are inconsequential in the history of mankind.
	And because you have a closed platform...
	Yeah, what good are you doing?
	There you go.
	With an outrageously closed platform for everything you have to buy for any of the equipment, if you can even open them because it's not allowed.
	You're not allowed to repair them.
	If you can't open an iPhone to fix the screen on your own or something like that or somebody else does it, it voids the warranty.
	This is not good.
	He's full of crap.
	He's an evil company.
	Yes.
	Yeah, without knowing it.
	And you know, he has an example to look to because things are going to go wrong and you'll need a couple of mistakes and the internet is, information still wants to go where it wants to go.
	You see all this stuff leaking out everywhere.
	You recall that Mark Zuckerberg refused to go and answer questions in UK Parliament?
	Boy, they sure got back at him.
	They butt slammed the kids.
	Facebook under public scrutiny again after new internal documents that were made public Wednesday showed the social media giant giving special access to user data to other companies like Airbnb, Lyft and Netflix.
	The documents had been under seal but a British parliamentary committee investigating Facebook released them revealing the inner workings of Facebook from about 2012 to 2015.
	The committee says the documents show Facebook turned over data to select companies while restricting access for others.
	Reuters tech correspondent Paresh DeVay.
	These documents could add to the ongoing scrutiny on Facebook, especially about its potentially anti-competitive behavior, its privacy practices, its growth hacking tactics.
	Growth hacking.
	And it's business model.
	Facebook has faced scrutiny around the world from lawmakers, regulators, and other government bodies.
	These documents could serve as new evidence for those inquiries.
	And these 250 pages that were released are fantastic.
	I mean, what's not in this report is proof.
	We heard about it.
	It was dismissed.
	But proof that on Android, they changed their app so that users' phone logs, SMS texts were logged in their app.
	And that they, on the update, did not receive a change in permission.
	They hacked their way around it.
	And they explain how they did it on email.
	It's fantastic.
	You have to download this and just read through it.
	It's emails back and forth and just how they talk to each other.
	It makes you want to puke.
	And, you know, they've got real problems.
	I think just the opposite.
	Really?
	Really?
	You think just the opposite?
	How so, my dear friend?
	Well, I think what this shows is that these guys are the kick-ass, kind of, like, do-anything-to-get-ahead company.
	That is the kind of thing you want to invest in.
	Well, you may want to see if the bottom has reached yet before you stick your cash in it.
	I think I hit the bottom.
	We have this game on DHM Plugged, and I already think we hit the bottom.
	I think the bottom is about 130.
	Yeah, well, I don't know.
	I think it's nice.
	I mean, the more I hear, the better it sounds.
	I mean, maybe I'm just the opposite of Tim Cook, who would be aghast.
	Oh, oh, I'm going to swoon.
	I can't believe this is going on.
	Gambling going on here in the bar.
	Um...
	No.
	I mean, I think it's funny that I know they're scrambling over there at the offices because they're getting busted left and right for being the dicks that they are, and apparently they are dicks, and it shows in the memos.
	And even when Zuckerberg goes up to him, he doesn't do a very good job.
	He's not a personable person.
	He's just kind of a robotic-like guy, but he knows what he's doing.
	And Sandberg is just obviously a very cunning runt.
	Wow.
	Cunning runt.
	Nice.
	In Australia, they know exactly what that means.
	Well, the point is, is that she is ruthless.
	And I think maybe the spirit of George Bush went right into her.
	But as far as I can, I mean, and so far as an investment is concerned, I'm liking Facebook more and more.
	Wow.
	Okay, I'll take your $130 and I'll say $87 is where there may be a bottle.
	Well, I'd like to see a crash where all these stocks go down like that.
	I mean, $87 would be great.
	I think that's where it's headed.
	People are abandoning this platform.
	Not all their platforms, but this one they are abandoning.
	And what happens is these governments, they start to figure out how it works.
	And there's also some massive media...
	Tomahawks out there.
	And after the break, I have a little series.
	By the way, I will agree with you.
	This is where I see the weakness.
	The media tomahawks.
	The media, and I have one clip about this, but the media has finally gotten a clue.
	Instead of like us on Facebook, it's like let us get Facebook.
	Because if the media doesn't stop them, the media is going to be in worse shape than they are already.
	Ever since news first broke that a political consulting firm, Cambridge Analytica, was able to get data from 87 million Facebook users, there have been more questions about whether Facebook sold or shared more data with other companies than it's let on publicly.
	That investigation has been continuing in Europe.
	Today, as Nick Schifrin tells us, there are new documents that show the social media giant gave other companies select access to users' data.
	Judy, the documents were released by a British Parliament Committee and seemed to show Facebook using all of our data as a bargaining chip to increase revenue.
	The committee accuses Facebook of cutting special deals with companies like Netflix, Airbnb, and Lyft to access users' data because those companies were advertising on Facebook.
	Facebook restricted access to users' data to companies it deemed competition.
	You know, this is perfect.
	I was going to do this after our break, but you've led me into it with this, so I'm going to do these.
	It's a series of clips.
	It's the only other series I have, and I can do it before the break.
	But we have to do it because it is this...
	Frontline, PBS Frontline, interviewed Brad Parscale, and he is the guy who ran the digital, I think we played some clips from him in the past, he's the guy who ran the digital media campaign for Trump, mainly Facebook, and I think he's currently the only person working on Trump's 2020 re-election campaign.
	Which I'm sure is online at this point.
	And not only did he say that he had to have a full recording of their interview, but as a part of something new, the PBS Frontline Transparency Project, which, you know, as recommended by that spook, which one of the, Woodward or Bernstein?
	Bernstein?
	Like, oh, we should chop up the interviews and then put the whole thing online.
	So they did.
	They put the whole interview online.
	It is fantastic to watch.
	It's been an hour and 15 minutes.
	The whole point of this interview is to discredit Facebook, to show how the Trump campaign manipulated Facebook's algorithms, how the Internet Research Agency and the Russians were able to change votes.
	They're so micro-focused.
	And this guy who's doing the interview...
	He just can't make it happen.
	It's so bad at the end, and you know it's really bad when your producer starts interrupting and asking counter questions behind you.
	There's a female voice who starts jumping in.
	I mean, you know that things are not going well with your little piece here, your hit job.
	So this is really a face bag hit job gone terribly wrong.
	And as a former marketer, and I think you'll find it interesting as well, John, to listen really how they did it, what the strategy was, and the tactics, which were elegantly simple and not so foreign to us, is just nice to hear because it kind of shows you, you know, is everything new or is the old stuff just faster?
	Yeah.
	And so what was the primary, in the primary season, what was the strategy on Facebook and how did it kind of shift going into 2016?
	Shock and awe.
	Shock and awe.
	How so?
	What's that mean?
	Which means is put Mr.
	Trump's message, let him speak directly to camera.
	And get it to as many people as possible.
	I'll also say, Parscale has the same illness as Tim Cook.
	There must be a tech thing.
	Again, there must be 30 edits just taking out the long pauses for your listening enjoyment.
	And when you say shock and awe, do you mean that in that you were bombarding people with content?
	Bombarding, yeah.
	Yeah, it's not about what we were showing.
	It's not shock as in the type of content.
	It's the shock of here is a considerable amount of content to just continue to show them directly from the president or Donald Trump.
	And so I think shock and awe more just the military sense of let's just go and flood the zone.
	I mean, but in terms of shock and awe of content, I mean, one of the things...
	Things go viral, right, on Facebook.
	Right.
	Sort of play into the algorithm.
	Right.
	Now, you said, this is what I like.
	So this guy thinks he knows how it works.
	Like, well, you know, things play into the algorithms, right?
	You know, this never-ending AI belief in machine learning.
	Oh, yeah.
	By the amateurs.
	Shock and awe of content.
	I mean, one of the things...
	Things go viral, right, on Facebook, and they're sort of playing to the algorithm of what's engaging content.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Stop.
	Yes.
	What does any algorithm have to do with things going viral?
	I think what he's trying to say, or what he wants to get out of this guy, is when you have controversial content that gets people pissed off, they click on it and that goes viral.
	That's what he wants to hear.
	He wants to hear that the Trump campaign did dirty tricks, played into all kinds of nastiness, and that cranked the algos and he won the election.
	That's the story here.
	Sort of playing to the algorithm.
	By the way, it's PBS Frontline.
	It's not some, you know, shuck and jive outfit.
	No, these are not shuck and jivers at all.
	This is the hot shots.
	Yeah, this is the top notch.
	The pros from Dover.
	You know, of what's engaging content.
	And was there thinking inside of the campaign that what's more engaging on Facebook, for instance, is...
	No, nothing with incendiary content at all.
	What I mean is that Donald Trump speaking to the American people was a shock to the system.
	They have for so many years received a concentrated message that had been filtered by the media into what they were being told they needed to do.
	The left wants you to believe that that is something that was That was above and beyond.
	No, it was just a message different than theirs.
	And it was a message about a conservative voice, and he delivered that directly to them in large volume.
	And we didn't have to make anything.
	We just had to let Mr.
	Trump talk directly to camera, and they listened.
	I know, but are you telling me that inside of the campaign there wasn't thinking about what actually triggers the algorithm, what actually makes things go viral?
	No.
	No?
	That wasn't thinking inside of the campaign at that point?
	No.
	It was to sell Donald Trump's message.
	He has never changed his message to equal an algorithm.
	Right, but does it work in the advantage?
	I mean, I'm just wondering, because you know how social media works, right?
	You know how social media works.
	You don't, Jabroni.
	This guy is just on a...
	This guy should be fired from Frontline.
	He might be.
	I mean, I have too much content to have done clips of his producer jumping all over him.
	But when that happens, you know you should start getting a cardboard box for your stuff.
	Just start listing, pal, and see what this guy has to say instead of trying to make him say stuff.
	Exactly.
	Does it work in the advantage?
	I mean, I'm just wondering, because you know how social media works, right?
	You know what the algorithm favors content that's engaging, favors content that is emotional to some degree.
	So you're saying that the messaging of the campaign did not play on that in any way?
	Well, it did because the American people, the reason why it went viral is because people were seeking that message.
	Was it in any way seen as an opportunity to, or the chance to experiment in that, with different messaging, for instance, that there wouldn't be...
	I mean, granted, people could share, right?
	And I get that.
	But the rules are very different and the game is very different than on TV. A lot more people see it.
	It's actually less.
	If I run an ad and only Eastern Washington on a local VMA, who else sees it?
	Just so you understand, he's talking about a demographic area in a local television media buy.
	This is a little technical, but it's interesting because he's basically dispelling everything that they've thought about this campaign in Facebook.
	It's actually less.
	If I run an ad and only Eastern Washington on a local DMA, who else sees it?
	Only people in the eastern DMA of Washington, right?
	Right.
	So if I run a Facebook ad in that same DMA and they share it with people in LA, who just saw it more?
	There is...
	I could give you all that.
	Male, same way, less shared.
	The difference is that...
	When the left saw that we use it so well, they panicked and thought that somehow we twisted people's minds, which didn't happen.
	It's because they couldn't explain it because they once lost control.
	That's the beauty of the Internet.
	Because the ads could be shared, because it was so open, it allowed it to expand and to become a movement.
	It's the actual opposite of what they want to believe.
	So he basically had $100 million and just bought ads for the right people and just focused on the right areas.
	The rest of my clips are not as long, but I think it's really important to hear some of this because it's debunking a lot of the theories that we've been Blanketed with.
	Now, this guy may be full of crap.
	I don't know, but it sounds...
	I don't think so.
	I think he's right on the money.
	This other guy's the one that's full of crap.
	Well, that's what makes it entertaining to listen to.
	So now, another tact.
	Well, hold on a second.
	You know, it's misleading.
	You don't know if it's an ad.
	It could be just, you know, it shows up as content.
	You know, people don't know it's advertising.
	It's, you know, this is the trying to slip in...
	Gee, this never happens in the New York Times with their native ad program.
	Oh, well, he didn't quite answer it that way, but he came close.
	Do you think it was clear in 2016 that there was a substantive difference in a Facebook feed between ads and content?
	It says ad on it.
	And sponsored content?
	It says sponsored.
	And do you think that an American voter is actually going to know the difference between that?
	Yeah, I mean, I will tell you much worse is you open up the Wall Street Journal, or actually even worse, you open the New York Times, do you know the difference between an opinion piece and a news piece?
	Yeah, you do.
	Really?
	Yeah, sure.
	There's an op-ed page, there's an editorial page.
	There's one word, one word underneath the title that says opinion.
	What's the difference between the one word that says sponsored?
	I love how the interviewer thinks the American public is stupid.
	Yeah, they're stupid.
	But when it's the New York Times, of course, the people who read the New York Times, they see the word opinion, obviously.
	The New York Times readers are so much smarter.
	I think that people know that when, first of all, it's not, if you look back to how things were done in 2016, 60% of the content now on major newspapers and on major outlets now are opinion pieces.
	30 years ago, it was less than 10%.
	We have turned into an entire media company, a media outlet system, that is mainly on opinion and commentary instead of news.
	So you turn on any major news media tonight, and you watch it, and you consume how much of it's commentary and how much of it's news.
	That has flipped.
	I think that what has happened...
	Well, the news industry would say in response to that that...
	It's what makes them money.
	Well, it's the only way to get engagement on the Facebook...
	To make money.
	No, on the Facebook platform.
	No, no, no.
	Because...
	What?
	The guy, the guy, the interviewee, the Trump guy is right.
	Yes, of course he is.
	It's because of the money.
	Of course he is.
	Online does not pay the way print does, and so you have to start pulling these stunts Yes.
	Yes.
	That's what these guys have to do to survive.
	You cannot run an online publication and make money using the old models.
	You can't even come close.
	That doesn't fit in this interviewer's brain because he's pure.
	He's pure of journalistic thought.
	What engages people when Facebook is your news source is opinion and is polarizing.
	I would say what the Trump campaign put up online was a hundred times more real than all the news articles that were put up.
	Are you serious?
	In what way?
	Because I would read the articles, and they were false.
	One after another after another.
	Because I actually was in the room.
	I was with him.
	I listened to him.
	I was in all the meetings.
	And piece after piece after piece was full of anonymous sources, single source content, fake stories, over and over again.
	Every day.
	Every day.
	It's why I record this conversation.
	It's why everything I do now, I have to think that everyone's going to do something fake against me.
	So then, of course, Facebook is doing things like, oh, we're going to publish all the ads and show that they're political ads, everyone can see the ads, and we all know it's good transparency!
	And what do you make of the fact that, you know, how does it change your strategy going into 2020, the fact that Facebook's changed some of its policies about, for instance, they're going to...
	Show of the ads?
	Yeah, show of the ads.
	It just saved me a bunch of money because now everybody gets to see my ads for free.
	So it doesn't hamstring you in any way in terms of what ads you want to show to what people.
	It just lets other people see my ads for free.
	I mean, it's kind of like a gift.
	The guy's head is going...
	How can this be?
	Now, here's some factual stuff that I hear...
	Before this, I had not heard about Cambridge Analytica.
	By the way, I hope our producers appreciate some of these.
	These clips are a little...
	I would say dry, but extremely valuable.
	Thank you.
	That's how I saw it as well.
	That's why I spent a lot of time tightening them up, because it's so long.
	And yeah, it is a little dry.
	But this next piece is really, you know, it's a real nugget.
	And I'm just going to ask you, what is your impression of the Trump campaign's involvement with Cambridge Analytica and data?
	What do you know about that, just from what is the accepted truth on Snopes?
	Well, Snopes.
	I really don't know that there was a connection between data, between Analytica and Facebook, I think is what we're talking about.
	Mm-hmm.
	And Trump, necessarily.
	Well, so the way I understood the story, the way the narrative plays, is Cambridge Analytica, Bannon went over there, Bannon set it all up, and they had illegally accessed Facebook data, and then that data was merged with all kinds of stuff for this massive, smart, micro-targeting.
	Well, I think we've already made the case that it was never illegal, and I think you'll be surprised when you hear what his answer is.
	The Trump campaign paid Cambridge Analytica nearly six million bucks.
	What'd you get for that money?
	Well, five million dollars, that was a TV buy.
	So you gotta wipe off five million dollars.
	Steve Bannon made a purchase of TV advertising that ran on the East Coast.
	They have a television division where they literally just place television.
	They were paid, I think, approximately around $800,000.
	We receive staff.
	The reason I hired Cambridge Analytica was actually not for Cambridge Analytica at all.
	I didn't know about their company.
	I didn't know anything about them.
	They had hired some of the Scott Walker digital team in 2015.
	These were the guys that had really helped Scott Walker re-elect.
	And there was a guy named Matt Oskowski.
	When I met Cambridge, I thought they were full of crap.
	I met Matt Oskowski, and I really liked him.
	He had experience running a very well-targeted, well-great-run digital campaign.
	I actually wanted to hire him without Cambridge, and he said, I'm under contract.
	So I asked him for an employment contract, and so I hired them for staff only.
	And each one of the payments between then and Election Day went for staff only.
	And then Matt worked on my team with four or five of his people.
	And they mainly ran polling, visualization, and support staff to all the things we needed to do to get things done digitally.
	I actually hired Cambridge Analytica for any data work.
	I hired them for any other data.
	Do you regret any affiliation with Cambridge Analytica?
	Hindsight's 20-20 now.
	I don't regret because I'm sitting here today and Donald Trump's president, so I'm not going to regret that decision.
	You know, it's sad what Cambridge Analytica executives did, but I barely knew him, didn't even have anything like contact with him.
	And from the day I hired him until after the day after the election, I actually never talked to any of those guys.
	So we don't know how truthful this is, but I've never heard this version of the story.
	I've never heard that either, but I want to mention something to some of our sports fans out there.
	I'm listening to this guy, and this guy sounds like somebody.
	And if anybody, there's going to be 10 guys who are going to get this joke.
	He sounds exactly like Clay Thompson of the Golden Gate Warriors.
	I'm done.
	Okay.
	I was just stepping back for the laughter.
	Yeah.
	I'm sure you're right.
	All right.
	Two-part of it.
	Then we're done.
	And this comes down to our questioning of the effectiveness of the ad buy that the Internet Research Agency did and how they were able to...
	Change the minds of millions of Americans to vote for Donald Trump as well as...
	For $100,000.
	Yeah, well, $100,000 turns out that wasn't really the budget.
	What?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And, you know, we also...
	We've had all kinds of questions about the effectiveness of the platform.
	I think if you can spend, the story is $100,000, and you can make someone president, which is what the accusation is, and we have, what, 12 indictments of internet research agency dudes based upon this $100,000 collusion campaign or influence campaign?
	So why?
	Well, I think Parskal does a good job of explaining it.
	So as far as I know, Facebook has not released all of the repository of advertising that happened on their platform during 2016, whether it was by the Russians or the Trump campaign or any other actors who were...
	Well, Trump campaign is not an actor.
	Trump campaign is the official...
	Understood.
	But dark money groups or anyone else?
	Those are also...
	If you're talking about super PACs and C4s and all those things, that's part of the current political system.
	But the only thing that's been accusatory is what these actors did from this internet research company or whatever.
	It's the only one I know about and the only one I've read about.
	And what I've read about is during the last couple months of the campaign, there was only a fraction of money spent, well less than $100,000, somewhere down under $10,000 range.
	There's been different accounts of how much that is.
	Some saying $6,000, some saying $8,000.
	But the fraction of that, probably what was spent on Facebook was probably close to $500 to $600 million in the United States by legitimate organizations.
	And to try to say that that $500 or $600 million, that $6,000 somehow influenced $600 million, is the biggest piece of just malarkey I've ever heard.
	Even though Facebook is actually a very effective targeting tool.
	Yeah, they can't say that, though, because they would say, that's like saying a restaurant puts $5,000 from some restaurant in Wichita, Kansas, puts $5,000, and all over the world the next day is going to know how great that restaurant is from $5,000 in advertising.
	This doesn't happen.
	It's not possible.
	I don't understand it.
	And if someone shows me the proof that somehow it influenced somebody, I haven't seen it.
	But I think the media wants you to believe it because they want to believe that somehow none of this is legit, that these guys somehow faked all everybody out for $6,000, and I think it's a big joke.
	I mean, you can't even...
	I can barely fly from here to Hawaii and back for $6,000.
	I'm not going to change the entire American electric for it.
	Yes.
	Apparently, the last six weeks, which is really when he spent $90 million on shock and awe in the right places, but that's what he says.
	It was just a lot to the people we were interested in, and they re-shared it, versus the $6,000.
	He questions the validity of that, and he has an explanation as to why Facebook won't actually set the record straight.
	Do you think that Facebook bears any responsibility for the fact that bad actors were also using these powerful tools to mess with the American electorate?
	Could they maybe question why a Russian company with Russian IP addresses are buying ads on a platform?
	Sounds kind of suspicious to me also.
	Maybe it was just a little amount of money they spent that just went under the radar.
	$6,000 or whatever it was the last six weeks or whatever, eight weeks.
	I mean, I was spending that per half second or millisecond probably.
	So if you take that over six weeks, I mean, they were spending.00001 cents per second.
	So, I mean, I could get how maybe it'd fly under the radar.
	I think they'll do a better job now, though, of probably verifying I think Facebook's biggest mistakes was they were in a conflict of marketing versus ethics.
	So to actually explain to everybody that $6,000 in ads really wasn't doing much also makes you sound like your platform's not that powerful to do something for cheap.
	So if you want to get rid of every small vendor that's using your platform in America, go on TV and say, well, that actually isn't very much.
	So, Facebook was caught in a catch-22 to say Russia couldn't do a lot with that little amount of money or however these actors were.
	It also says that all the small businesses across America, you can't actually do something effective for that little amount of money.
	So, they were kind of caught in a little paradox.
	What they've almost said is, yeah, $100,000 and $100 million are the same thing.
	Well, even $100,000, $6,000.
	They only spent less than $10,000 in the same period of time that I spent $100 million.
	Ruh-roh.
	There you go.
	I don't know if that made it into the final piece because I've not seen the edited show.
	Somehow, I would think they would, but maybe they're too stupid.
	I doubt it.
	Because that's the money show.
	Because that guy who's doing the interviewing, him and that woman who's behind him have to be part of the producing package, and they're the ones that are going to put that together with this guy, and they're going to clip...
	Maybe five minutes from all that.
	Oh, if that.
	Yeah, if that.
	Well, for online desk clip, as much as five minutes.
	But they don't play it all at once.
	Yeah.
	But the whole piece, and it's in the show notes, nashownotes.com, is well worth watching.
	Because there's a lot of detail about how they used Facebook.
	If anybody's an amateur marketing guy out there, we have a number of producers who have to do that sort of thing.
	Sales.
	Yep.
	Sales and marketing.
	I'd listen to this.
	This sounds like a very revealing...
	The guy was very face-forward with everything.
	He wasn't trying to obfuscate any tricks or secrets.
	Yeah.
	And there was other interesting stuff, which I didn't clip, but the accusation, which came from a Bloomberg report, that they targeted a zip code with African Americans with all kinds of terrifying things about Hillary Clinton.
	Yeah.
	And his comeback is, do you think I'm stupid?
	No one targets by zip code anymore.
	We look at a zip code and see the people there.
	We have all their interests.
	We don't see skin color.
	We don't give a crap.
	We just go look at, are they likely Trump voters?
	That's it.
	Zip codes is like two generations old versions of marketing.
	Exactly.
	That's demographic.
	Nobody does that anymore.
	Yeah.
	But they were dead serious about it in the interview.
	It was a head shaker.
	Well...
	If this was done by a commercial operation like CBS or ABC or NBC, they would have people doing the interview that were a little more up-to-date.
	And by up-to-date, I mean 50 years up-to-date.
	This guy is thinking that 50 years ago they used to do stuff like that.
	But no.
	What I realized, though, is the guy's mic sounds horrible, the interviewer.
	It's because he'll never be on screen.
	The way Frontline does it is they just have voiceover.
	Almost everybody does that nowadays.
	Yeah, you got the voiceover.
	But if they're going to have to pull any clips from this, they're going to have to do some fancy footwork on the voiceover to make it fit any narrative.
	Because clearly, Facebook, yeah, it works like all other media.
	The more you buy, the more you repeat, the more it works.
	Yeah, well...
	They do have the targeting that the other guys don't have.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's the thing.
	They've got the target.
	It's basically faster.
	You can get the same targeting from other networks, but from television, from print, you can get some of that.
	Some.
	Yeah.
	Anyway.
	So, there you go.
	I think now we should take a little break.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	And you had something to say?
	No.
	Don't you thank the artists and all that stuff right now?
	No, usually...
	Oh, you know, I did it completely wrong.
	I did it out of sequence.
	I was so mad.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, we'll cut that part out.
	No one will ever know that I forgot to say, in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Cunning Runt Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, little ships and sea boots on the ground and their feet in the air and all the rest of it.
	Come on.
	Yeah, come on.
	Just because I messed it up doesn't mean you have to just throw the towel in on us.
	In the morning to the troll room, noagendastream.com.
	That's where the trolls hang out.
	They bring their troll poles to help us out during the show.
	Sometimes very effective and helpful.
	Also, in the morning to...
	I think it's Darren O'Neill.
	Let me just bring up the...
	Yes, it was because he's been hitting...
	He's done three in a row, I think.
	Is it in a row?
	I don't think it's been in a row.
	Otherwise, he has the hat trick.
	Really?
	I have to believe it was, yeah.
	Well, Darren brought us the artwork for episode 1091.
	Title of that was Surf and Turf.
	And this was the Al Gore 99% agree.
	It's science.
	Why would I lie?
	Piles of cash in front of him.
	And he's laughing with his little tell.
	And that was the one we chose.
	And let me see...
	Let me just check.
	So 1090, he had...
	Yes, that was also Darren.
	And did he do 1089?
	Because then he has a hat trick.
	Nope.
	1089 was Martin JJ. Haha.
	1088 was Darren.
	Ah.
	Just missed the hat trick.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	1088 was Uncle Cave Bear.
	Nope.
	I mean, he's good, but no hat trick yet.
	Oh.
	Well, the reason I think that, I was thinking that, is because I think that's what you were complaining about.
	Complaining?
	Oh, brother.
	His mind is going.
	But let's thank a few people who are the top donors in today's show, the executive producers and the associate executive producers who get the full credits they can use on their bios.
	Surat Neff starts it off with, and he's from, he doesn't say, but he came in with 1357.95.
	Wow.
	It doesn't really say why that number.
	This is long time no donate so I thought I'd make it count.
	This will make me a baron so please provide me the barony of Gray and Bruce counties in Ontario and the city of Waterdeep.
	I hope this helps.
	You know, if you're a baron, you could probably pick up a lot bigger area than that.
	I hope this helps with the doldrums, which we do have, by the way.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Very Merry Christmas to you and yours sincerely, Sir Rataniff.
	To be baron.
	Then we come up with another big donor.
	Joseph Finley comes in with $1,000 from Louisville, Ohio.
	Ohio, Ohio.
	Adam and John, I've listened to you guys for a long time, and my My douchery must come to an end.
	I never saw that word before.
	Does that mean he needs a de-douchery?
	Well, I'm looking, I'm looking.
	Yeah, he does.
	Just give him one.
	All right, here we go.
	You've been de-douched.
	Well, contributing a small amount a few months ago, it clearly wasn't enough and failed to uphold my and therefore instantite.
	I would like the name of Sir Walkman of Buckeye, my old hacker freaker handle.
	I've been smacking my wife and friends in the mouth, metaphorically speaking, via Twitter, at Jay Finley.
	John, been a fan back in Cranky Geeks Day and on Leo's show, but didn't know you were politically astute until I heard you call in on Michael Savage.
	That was a while back.
	You called in on Michael Savage?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah, it was a funny experience because he doesn't really listen to you much.
	But this was after, I think it was Bernie Ward, a local radio host, a very famous local guy, got busted for apparently having a computer full of child porn.
	Oh, this is decades ago.
	Yeah, it was a while back.
	Anyway, I can tell that story sometime.
	I even...
	I emailed you.
	That's right, you did email me.
	It was just you I heard and you promptly acknowledged, yes.
	Rewinding back, found you guys about five years ago, but listening now on a consistent basis the past three years.
	You entertained much of my time while in the shower.
	Hello?
	Fishing nuts on a game plane or on the road covering my territory in cybersecurity.
	Ah, one of those guys.
	A jingle request in order.
	I said fishing nuts.
	It's fisting nuts.
	I don't think we have an ISO of that.
	I have something that may give us a little bit, but I don't think we have an ISO. It was pretty long, the bit I did.
	I'll see what I have, and otherwise I'll cut it off if it's too long and I'll play it at the end.
	What else we got?
	We got the Hillary laugh, which, by the way, I can provide with my, because I have the pen right here.
	I have it.
	I have it.
	I've got everything else lined up.
	Okay, and Don't Eat Me, Hillary, Suppressed Gunshot, Foamer, and the Karma Goat Karma.
	All right.
	Well, Joseph, I'll see you at the podium, along with Sir Ratnef.
	Wait, no, Sir Ratnaf has barony, but you will be on the podium, Joseph, and here's what we got for you.
	Just go for it, John.
	Tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane.
	Ah-ha!
	Eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Oh, my God!
	Woo!
	Listen to that horn!
	You've got...
	Karma.
	Karma.
	Well, I'll play the full mix at the end, but it doesn't quite work.
	Sam Brown comes up on the list as an executive producer.
	$343.35.
	Jeez!
	I cannot believe it, but this donation should bring me to knighthood.
	It's possible because the jobs karma requested earlier in the year worked and now I have a better job with better pay and better benefits and thanks to No Agenda, better mental hygiene.
	The downside of the new jobs is an hour commute to Cambridge every day.
	Of course, that leaves me plenty of time to listen to No Agenda at double speed.
	Just how God intended.
	I've pared down my podcast listening to just No Agenda.
	Security now and ESPN's PTI. When is Adam going to be a guest host?
	Must be soon with all his sports reporting he's been doing lately.
	I was born and raised in America.
	By the way, I'm a big PTI fan too.
	I don't know why those two guys seem to just kind of do the job.
	Keep you up with the right gossip.
	I was born and raised in America.
	I'm an Eagle Scout.
	Half of our listeners are.
	But now live in the UK, we should have some sort of Eagle Scout knighthood.
	Wait, wait, wait, John!
	It could be an additional badge.
	Yeah, a little tick, a little button.
	Well, no, like the Eagle Scout has nothing but...
	Yeah, we get one of those little embroidered things.
	Yes, you add it, you sneak it in between, you know, like knots and, I don't know, canoeing.
	Knots, canoeing, yeah.
	You're not listening to the UK. Indeed, I became a UK citizen just to vote to remain in the EU. Huh.
	However, I can say that you two are about the only two people worth listening to on the other side of the Atlantic.
	Thank you very much for your...
	You know we're against the EU in general.
	Just saying.
	Thank you very much for your service.
	May I request to be knighted as Sir Sam of Bedfordshire.
	You bet.
	And the Great Ouse.
	As a one-off, could I also request that Reese's peanut butter cups and Earl Grey tea added to the table?
	Yes, of course.
	Finally, I'd like to request anything by Sharpton, a Pelosi, Jobs Karma for all.
	My daughter loves it.
	And a complete drone again at the end.
	Okay, I will write that down.
	I will add the peanut Reese's.
	This is my favorite.
	Reese's peanut butter cups.
	And I also like Earl Grey tea.
	We'll add that to the list.
	And here you go.
	Music R-E-S-P-I-C-T Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Jonathan Greenlee comes up in the list, $333.33.
	Out of sympathy for your email woes, which, I haven't checked this, this last one was probably, probably normal.
	But I changed a couple of things.
	I took the caps out of the send line, which I'm going to have to retest.
	I tested that once before.
	And what was the result?
	This is an ongoing...
	I said I haven't tested it.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	The result, it seemed back to normal, but I don't know if it's that or less links.
	There's a lot of different possibilities.
	But I'm going to retest my thesis about...
	And I noticed a number of people were tweeting about...
	These tips for doing email marketing, email marketing in particular.
	Personally, I think the graphics of Kellyanne Conway has probably let through all the spam filters.
	You should just have some horrible picture of anyone connected to Trump and you get promoted to the top of the stack.
	Good to go.
	You should give it a shot.
	Or just make the titles, you know, Trump sucks.
	It should just go to the top.
	It should even get a little flag.
	I don't want to say that you could be right, but you could be right.
	I could be right.
	It's worth a try.
	If you didn't get the last newsletter, you should get it just to look at the horrible pictures of poor Kellyanne Conway.
	That was great.
	Yeah.
	But you know, she's in the news a lot.
	Anyway, out of sympathy, he writes for your email woes.
	I've consolidated the household's Sanka Cafe drafting classes, dead flies, rye crisp, amphetamine, chlorodent and asthma.
	It's actually asthma cigarettes budgets into payments directly to you.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	Please play me a Christmas jingle or two and de-douche this future night as well.
	I'll do some karma with it then.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got Christmas karma.
	Merry Christmas, slave.
	You've got Carmen.
	You know, Chris Wilson sent me quite a long Christmas song for the show, but I'm not going to play it today.
	It's too early.
	That's one for right near Christmas.
	But I will start to stock up on some Christmassy stuff because everyone's in the season spirit.
	Yousef Higazi, $333 from Plymouth, Michigan.
	Your shows have been getting better of late, so I'm happy to give you guys some much-deserved value in return.
	The work you've been doing on EU news, especially France, is very refreshing, and it's analysis I can't get anywhere else.
	I appreciate that you are making the Trump analysis more concise.
	I feel it's an improvement to the show.
	I know the topic of Trump coverage.
	Now, I want to stop here.
	This is a very long note, by the way.
	It's a very long note.
	I'm going to probably skip some of it.
	But I want to stop here and mention that the preoccupation with Trump is in the media, but it's also in our notes with people bitching about Trump coverage.
	You know, don't anyone find this ironic?
	Yeah, very ironic.
	Like, now we have to listen to you bitch about us bitching about.
	I know the topic of Trump coverage on the show has been a sensitive one for you.
	So before you read on, I want you to know I'm not trying to be confrontational.
	I just want to have an open dialogue as it seems there's a disconnect between us as people who listen to the show.
	And I'm sorry, I think I'm channeling his voice.
	This is Michigan Local One.
	They had a meetup, which they do very regularly.
	And I think that the topic of Trump coverage was discussed.
	And I really don't feel like talking about it, but fine.
	Those who managed to perform the show, I feel that way after hearing grumbling about keeping the Trump segment short.
	There's no segment.
	There's no Trump segment.
	Today we didn't even do Trump.
	We just came up because of the majority.
	No, John, this is what it is.
	I did a whole piece on the trial that Trump came, which is about Facebook and the media and the inner workings of advertising.
	People hear Trump and they hear it's a Trump segment.
	I can't help that.
	This is very interesting information.
	And Trump's name is mentioned because it's part of it.
	Okay, well let me skip the rest of the complaint.
	Adam puts a lot of effort into making the audio quality of the podcast impeccable.
	I think that's all I need.
	Yeah, but read on.
	Well, impeccable.
	Okay, well, Andy wants the listeners to have a high experience.
	It's like a waiter in a tux and white gloves bringing out a silver platter.
	However, when the main dish that the waiter brings out is the Kraft mac and cheese that represents the hysteric Trump news.
	Okay, I'm not reading anymore.
	Anyway, took the executive producership.
	If any other listeners out there have to continue enjoying the premium quality of no agenda show, please also consider paying whatever premium that you think the show is worth to you.
	I've had a subscription for a while now, and with this donation, I'm close to knighthood.
	Please give me some financial goat karma, and I want to reach knighthood by spring.
	Yeah.
	And I appreciate your note, but I do not agree with your analogies.
	Well, this is an example of these locals.
	This happens when people, we need to go visit.
	We do.
	We got to go teach them some manners.
	I think you should have taken a run up to Michigan while you were in Chicago last time.
	Yeah, you know, I was there for, I don't know, like a memorial and I wasn't really in the meetup mode.
	Okay.
	How about a Texas meetup?
	I have meetup news later.
	But thank you very much.
	Of course, we appreciate your donation and the feedback.
	It's a little redundant.
	I think if you really go listen and really listen to what we're saying, that the majority of the show is not about Trump.
	I'm pretty sure you can time it and you'll come up with some interesting numbers.
	However, I do have for you the financial karma of the goat variety queued up.
	Here you go.
	You've got karma.
	Nick Foster in Trimble, Missouri, 333.
	And he's got a nice note.
	I need investment karma, ASIC, Mining, Colorado.
	He's investing in a mining company.
	No, wait, no, wait.
	ASIC, isn't that application-specific integrated circuit?
	Maybe it's a...
	Is it Bitcoin mining or is it crypto mining?
	I didn't look it up.
	I got the karma for him, though.
	You've got karma.
	Okay, so we go to the...
	Excuse me, Associate Executive Producers with Sir Dave Barron of Kansas City in Gladstone, Missouri, 241.30.
	And he writes, Gents, this donation represents the sum of anniversary and birthday days.
	Coming up this week, request a shout-out from my smoking hot wife, Dame Melody, for our 50th.
	You know, by the way, Melody...
	15th, 15th, not 50th.
	50th.
	Woo!
	15th.
	Every woman I've ever run into named Melody is always gorgeous.
	Funny how that works.
	I agree.
	And I've never really run into an attractive Beatrice.
	Funny.
	The queen, the old queen of the Netherlands.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Dame Melody for our 15th anniversary and Dame Isabella on her 10th birthday.
	Thanks, Sir Dave Baron of Kansas City.
	Thank you very much, sir.
	Karma.
	Oh, no, he says shout-out.
	No, shout-out.
	Okay, shout-out.
	Rise of Northwest Wisconsin, meanwhile.
	The crazy state of Wisconsin.
	23456.
	And he's in Barron, Wisconsin.
	De-douche me.
	Okay.
	You've been de-douched.
	And he needs a little job, Karma.
	Remember the comment, this is an investment, not a donation.
	You know, that's actually a very modern way of talking about donations.
	That's what the PBS operation does.
	Oh, really?
	Is that new or they've always done that?
	No, it's been going on for...
	It's relatively new, but it's been going on for at least five years.
	But I see it more as a...
	This is your best investment.
	Right.
	But I would say this is a production investment.
	It's an investment in a production.
	And it gives you a return.
	If you're not getting a return for it, then you should not invest.
	And I think people know very well what you get, especially when we hand out the karmas.
	Oh, jobs.
	You've got karma.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Anonymous in Deutschland, $200.
	Please keep this anonymous and keep up the good work.
	Much appreciated, especially the views on the EU from the US. Greetings from Deutschland!
	There's a name there.
	I'll leave it anonymous.
	And that concludes our group of executive and associate executive producers for the show 1092, I believe.
	I do have another note I'd like to read in this karma request from P.W. Smith.
	Yeah, I was going to do that in the second.
	Put it off to then.
	And I want to thank all of our executive producers and associate executive producers for not only financing the episode, which is what associate and executive producers do, but also with the feedback.
	It doesn't go unnoticed.
	We'll argue with you where we think it's valid, but the feedback is that's what you do as a producer.
	So that is incredibly appreciated.
	Yeah, that's what producers do.
	They bitch.
	Yeah, and you're welcome to it.
	If you could just make it a little shorter because, you know, there's only so much show.
	And we'll be thanking more people at $50 and above in our second segment.
	And, of course, we have a show coming up on Sunday.
	You can support that at...
	You know all the inner workings of the face bag now.
	Go out and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water! Order!
	Shut up, Slade!
	Shut up, Slade!
	Let's talk Yellow Jackets for a moment.
	Well, I do have an introductory clip.
	Very good.
	Is it called Yellow Jackets Backgrounder?
	Where's that?
	No, I'm just guessing.
	Maybe it's French gas tax resolution.
	Yes.
	French President Emmanuel Macron has scrapped a proposed fuel tax hike that sparked the most violent protest in decades.
	His government initially had said that it would suspend the tax for six months.
	Tonight, Macron's prime minister said that the tax is now a dead letter, and he called for dialogue with the protest groups.
	Are you sure?
	Is it now completely canceled?
	I thought it was still suspended.
	No.
	He superseded that, huh?
	Yeah, it's done.
	Well, what was great to watch is, and only on YouTube and other online video, is ambulance drivers joining in the protest, riot police joining in the protest, firemen joining in the protest.
	This is something we can't accomplish.
	We used to be able to accomplish stuff like this in the United States.
	Long gone.
	We'll never see anything like this.
	The French is the last country that can still accomplish this.
	And I'm surprised that they're in the EU.
	And the most scandalous thing, of course, with France is that the EU has asked France to give up their seat on the Security Council and give it to the EU.
	Yes, as discussed on the last episode.
	Which was discussed on the last show, which is illegal, by the way.
	So what is fascinating about this story and some other mainstream outlets are noticing, I think Tucker Carlson did a piece on it, is that the true nature and even Scott Adams was surprised.
	I guess he finally figured out through one story that he got in the M5M that this is about the global warming climate change tax that has been added.
	And it's, of course, just the start of how people will pay according to the Paris Accord.
	None of the background of the story is really discussed much in any M5M, not around the world either.
	There's a possibility that there might have even been a denotis in the UK or some partial denotis about not making a big deal out of it.
	And when I got that note over the weekend, the Paris was burning, and I looked at the homepage of the BBC and Sky News, and nothing was on the homepage.
	It was under the Europe tab.
	You had to go in, and it still did not really mention what it's about.
	Saturday, there's a big protest planned at Macron's house.
	That would be his palace.
	I don't know how this changes with him revoking the tax or reversing the tax.
	Obviously, there's something else at play here.
	The Yellow Jackets is no coincidence.
	This is a color revolution, almost by definition, which means there could be other people behind it.
	I think there's a lot of actors.
	They're called extreme left, extreme right.
	A lot of troublemakers show up for this stuff.
	Troublemakers.
	But it's also spreading.
	It's in the Netherlands.
	It's in Belgium.
	It's spreading to other countries.
	And that, of course, is what needs to be slowed down and stopped.
	And that's why people can't really know the actual issue.
	I caught a clip.
	It was on NPR. And they brought in a BBC journalist.
	This was before the cancellation of the tax.
	There was still a suspension.
	But listen to how they cannot bring themselves to say...
	It's about the climate change tax and the Paris Accord money that has to be raised over the backs of all citizens, but of course people get hurt the most when it's a fuel tax.
	It's very hard for them to admit that.
	It's really funny to listen to.
	And there's some other things in here that I think are interesting.
	Well, the Prime Minister, in announcing the suspension of the taxes, said people's anger must be heard.
	There has to be proper debate.
	But Macron had implemented the taxes, mainly the tax on diesel fuel that's used, primarily to offset environmental concerns.
	Are there people who approve?
	Environmental concerns, John.
	It's not climate, it's environmental concerns.
	What's the public sentiment?
	We see the pictures of the cars on fire and these violent protests, but what's the sense of the French people?
	Well, it's gone long beyond...
	I love this.
	The French people are the ones on the street, young lady.
	They're the ones burning stuff.
	Why are you asking what do the French people think?
	Does she mean the French elites?
	What does she mean by that?
	This is a very strange question.
	Yes, but what's the sense of the French people?
	Well, it's gone long beyond that initial cause, which was, as you say, the fuel tax hike, which is coming.
	It's one of a series of increases which go back many years before Macron, a carbon tax which was to be brought in over many years.
	He's sort of accelerated that process, and it's all part of greening the economy and so on.
	Greening the economy.
	With which most people, including most yellow vests, would agree.
	If you put it that way, the greening of the economy, but if you say, hey, that's the climate change tax...
	There's a sort of higher issue for the people who are protesting, which is their standard of living, the sense that this is a policy being dictated to them from the kind of comfortably off town dwellers who don't really need cars, and so they feel that they're having to pay for the conscience, the good conscience of the metropolitan elite.
	Yes!
	I mean, you know, it's part, there's a whole dialectic between town and province is very much part of modern day politics.
	Oh, it's just about cars, apparently.
	It's just people who don't have cars and people who do need cars.
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	In Europe and, for all I know, in America, too.
	You know, these are people saying, hang on a sec.
	You know, you may have your conscience, but we've got our livelihoods.
	And that's what lies behind it.
	As for the violence, well, I mean, you know, the...
	There's no doubt that there are some very angry people among the yellow vests.
	There's also no question that there were professional revolutionary people of far left and far right who have latched onto it and were there doing most of the burning on Saturday.
	Plus, I have to say, because I saw it myself, people, kids from the Borlier, you know, the ones who rioted before coming in and just taking advantage of the whole thing.
	Look, we've got just a few seconds here.
	This is a suspension, not a cancellation.
	So what's the sense of what might happen?
	Well, yeah, indeed, and there are people already saying this is not enough.
	My feeling is that we'll probably have another protest on Saturday by hardliners, but the aim of this concession is to speak to the majority, to the country as a whole, to get them to say, oh, yes, look, the government has reacted, it is listening, and that should, the government hopes, and I think it may be right, remove some of the momentum behind the protest movement as a whole, which means it might have peaked and we might be on a kind of de-escalation now.
	You're unbelievably poor reporting when the true story is, well, what happens when the next thing takes place where money has to be raised?
	Because that is what the Paris Accord is.
	It's a money grab.
	Yeah, it's your money that your government has signed on to spend.
	So to say, oh, well, we'll just simmer it all down a little bit.
	No, the money you've committed to it.
	You've got to pay for it.
	It has to come from somewhere, and the protests will come back, and it's going to be much worse.
	And they chop heads off in France.
	They get carried away in France, there's no doubt about that.
	By the way, this discussion has shown up at the table, and I never thought about this, but nobody, you mentioned it on the show, I didn't know about it, and nobody that I've ever talked to knows about it, and it seems like an element of this, there's two aspects to it that make it interesting, and we're talking about the yellow vests themselves.
	Every car is equipped with a yellow vest in the trunk.
	And a breathalyzer.
	Yes, by law.
	French have to have a breathalyzer in their car.
	The Muslim influence on France.
	The anti-drinking campaign in the wine country, which is very annoying to the wine growers.
	I don't know about that, but yeah, I know that it's law.
	Okay, and so what came up with the table?
	I was thinking about it.
	The fact that nobody knows that everyone's got these yellow vests, so they didn't have to invest anything.
	It's just take it out of the trunk and wear it.
	But I was...
	Thinking further about it, and I said, you know, that's not a bad idea.
	That might not be a bad law to have here, or maybe even the car companies can voluntarily, because a lot of people do get hit on the side of the road when they're working on their car, they have some mishap.
	If they had those yellow vests on, it might save lives.
	You're saying make it mandatory?
	Yeah.
	Ugh.
	All right.
	John C. Orcasio-Cortez.
	You democratic socialist you.
	Stop with this.
	Here we go.
	Steck sent me something.
	It was hilarious.
	It's an entremont, a little short one.
	It is the catch of the day.
	This is something that is inherently completely false.
	It comes from a respected news outlet, NBC News.
	And we ran the clip.
	Fact check false.
	See if you can find what is wrong in this clip.
	Catch of the day.
	Second day.
	Days before her disappearance, images of joyful 36-year-old Carla Stefaniak celebrating her birthday on vacation in Costa Rica.
	Her family hopeful she'll be found alive.
	I want to tell her that I love her, that I want her to come back home with us.
	But today, island authorities made grim discoveries.
	A body that appears to be a woman found in a wooded area close to the Airbnb apartment.
	What was entirely and stupidly wrong?
	That took place in Costa Rica?
	Well, Costa Rica, yes, but what did she say about Costa Rica that is just a head shaker from NBC News?
	Oh, nuts.
	Okay, well, play it again.
	Okay.
	I won't play the whole thing.
	A six-year-old Carla Stefaniak celebrating her birthday on vacation in Costa Rica.
	Her family hopeful she'll be found alive.
	I want to tell her that I love her, that I want her to come back home with us.
	But today, island authorities made grim discoveries.
	Costa Rica, not an island.
	And DC girl in the troll room was the first one to get it right.
	I mean, that makes us look stupid here.
	Island authorities.
	Island authorities.
	Good reporting.
	On the ground reporting on the island.
	Woohoo!
	Fantastic.
	Those people get paid millions of dollars off that.
	Yeah.
	Not for us, Jean-Claude.
	Not for us.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	Well, I have a short one since you had mentioned the...
	You called me out as a Cortez or whatever.
	Democratic Socialists.
	So the Socialists.
	The thing that's going on now is because of the education system in this country has resulted in This particular, this is one of the many clips and it's part of a bigger report that I started looking at and it's actually quite fascinating, but play Millennials Prefer Communism.
	American millennials say they would rather live in a socialist or communist country than a capitalist democracy.
	That's according to a new survey from the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.
	The data shows that one in two millennials would rather live in a socialist country than a capitalist one.
	Here are some other interesting numbers from the survey.
	22% of those polled have a favorable view of Karl Marx, the father of communism and the author of the Communist Manifesto.
	And a lot of them see Joseph Stalin and Kim Jong-un as heroes.
	The executive director of the organization, Marion Smith, said, quote, Millennials are increasingly turning away from capitalism and towards socialism and even communism as a viable alternative.
	It's worth noting that in the survey, 71% failed to correctly define communism.
	Smith says he sees the numbers as a troubling turn and shows the failure of the country's education system.
	No kidding.
	Hello.
	This operation, by the way, this Victims of Communism or whatever it's called, I looked it up and it turns out to be actually, it's actually a congressional funded operation.
	So it's not some fly-by-night, you know, group.
	And I looked at their report.
	They've been doing this report for a number of years.
	I looked at the 2016, 2017, 2018 report, which just came out, shows it goes from like 35 or 40% of the millennials want to live under socialist rule or communism.
	And then it goes up to about 49%.
	Now it's at about 53%.
	It keeps going up.
	Well, they just want free stuff.
	Yeah, I think that's a lot of it.
	One of our producers sent me a very long note about student loans and that 2035 is going to be a very...
	I'm paraphrasing his note.
	2035 is going...
	And he has standing in the area.
	It'll be very interesting because the way the student loans work...
	You have your 20 years and you pay based on some formula, which is changing all the time.
	And it's about to change again.
	It's based upon your income, etc.
	And so you might be paying $200 a month for 20 years or it could be $80.
	But that does get adjusted.
	Here's the great thing.
	If you can just squeak by and just really not make enough to have to pay anything, after 20 years, whatever is left over of your amount...
	What you have paid, which varies from year to year based on your position in life, how much money you're making, the rest is just erased.
	And right now, the conversation amongst the financiers is, will this be added to your income?
	In the year that all of that is erased, and most likely not, but that could be quite a moment.
	Most likely, yes.
	It could be quite a moment of like a trillion dollars just evaporating from the books as something that has been wiped away.
	So keeping our eye on that.
	Do you get taxed for that?
	Well, you know, a lot of times the benefit does get added to your income tax.
	There's been examples.
	I can't think of one now, of course.
	Lots of examples.
	Are there lots of examples?
	Well, yeah.
	If somebody gives you an airplane trip to some place, you've got to pay taxes.
	If you win at the slots.
	About seven years ago, we started really looking at pipelines.
	And in fact, there's a pipeline episode that is kind of interesting.
	And there's been a lot of development since then.
	I think the most recent one, after Germany got its second pipeline from Russia, is the Turkish Stream, which is Russia going through Turkey.
	And Turkey, of course, wanting to move that on into Europe, which is the largest customer of natural gas.
	And we also talked about the Nobel Energy, who had on their board of advisors at the time, certainly, Bill Clinton, a lot of the big names.
	I think, you know, probably Colin Powell, all these mofos were all in on this deal.
	And they had discovered the Leviathan Field off the coast of, well, it's kind of complicated.
	Is it off the coast of Israel?
	Is it off the coast of Lebanon?
	Is it really a little bit Cyprus?
	You know, who claimed it?
	Well, Nobel Energy claimed it.
	And they're saying it belongs to Israel.
	And then came this report.
	Israel has agreed with Greece, Italy and Cyprus to construct the world's longest underwater pipeline, which will carry natural gas from the Eastern Mediterranean Sea to Europe.
	The Deep Sea EastMed pipeline project will begin 170 kilometers off the southern coast of Cyprus and stretch 2,200 kilometers to Italy.
	It will be able to transport up to 20 billion cubic meters of fuel each year.
	Jerusalem intends to use several vast underwater natural gas reserves discovered off the country's coastline to help Europe meet ever-increasing demands for the precious resource.
	Jerusalem is also hoping that the export will have a positive environmental impact and that it can improve Israel's diplomatic standing abroad.
	Yeah, I'm sure everyone's going to love you for trying to cut out, you know, Russia's not going to take too favorably to this.
	The whole thing, there's going to be a glut of natural gas.
	I don't know how this, you know, I like the way they've pitched natural gas as the solution to climate change because...
	Which is bull crap.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it produces quite a bit of carbon dioxide, but it's beside the point.
	But they're going to be inundated with natural gas in Europe.
	It's got to collapse the prices, which is what's going to have to happen.
	And it's going to cause a worldwide depression.
	It's not going to be good.
	It's way too much.
	Too much.
	They're all pumping like crazy, thinking, you know, we've got to get it there while we can.
	Do you think this latest round of tete-a-tete, mano-a-mano, back and forth between Putin and Trump, the U.S. and Russia, with the arms treaty, and I'll give you 60 days here and there...
	Doesn't this feel like, I mean, to me, I would, if you said to me, Trump and Putin made an agreement, hey, let's just rack that shit up.
	Let's get everyone all freaked out again.
	We did it really well in the past with the Cuban Missile Crisis.
	Let's get everyone a little bit, you know, on edge.
	Let's bring back terms like MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction, to drive our economies with more war stuff.
	Trump clearly loves building war stuff.
	That's what our economy drives on.
	All our money goes into that.
	It seems to me like this would be a kind of ploy.
	Yeah, and it's obvious that the military has taken over the White House, and Trump loves the military.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	A high school kid raised in a military school because his dad sent him to one, which was always a threat my parents had, because I guess it was a big deal back in the day.
	Where you would, you know, where military schools were all over the place and it was a common threat that you gave to kids.
	If you don't clean up your room, I'm sending you to military school.
	That's right.
	And you know what the troublemakers of school usually had to do?
	They had to be on the drill team on weekends.
	Because that would teach you some discipline, get on the drill team.
	Yeah.
	So you shape up.
	Trump, I guess, was such an incorrigible kid that they did send him to military school.
	And he liked it.
	He never joined the military because he didn't like it that much.
	Everything I hear is all just ratcheting the show.
	I don't know.
	It just seems phony baloney to me.
	Yeah, it does seem phony baloney.
	I agree.
	It seems something fake about it.
	But let me stay in Europe because people love this European coverage.
	So there was an anomaly to me as the migration crisis continued at a fast pace.
	Mm-hmm.
	And that is the pre-migration.
	I remember the bitching and moaning that went on in Denmark.
	You know, Denmark hooked themselves up to Sweden through this very long bridge.
	Yes.
	Which I went over it on the train goes on it and also cars.
	And it's extreme.
	I don't know how long it is, but it's long.
	And it goes all the way to southern Sweden to the Malmo area.
	Which is largely, nowadays, largely a Muslim area in Sweden, where the south of Sweden is where all the Muslims are.
	It's 1,608 feet.
	It's only 1,000 feet?
	If I'm looking at the right bridge.
	It's more than 1,000 feet.
	That can't be the right bridge.
	Is it the Orozone Bridge?
	Yeah, the Orozone Bridge.
	A thousand feet?
	I can throw a football farther than that.
	Go on with the story.
	I'll check my facts.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Eight kilometers.
	What am I talking about?
	Okay, there we go.
	It's more like it.
	Anyway, so, but all during the pre-migration era, there was this bitching and moaning by the, oh, the Danish, they're not playing fair because they've been kicking Muslims out.
	Of course, there was the scandal with the cartoons which came out of Denmark, you know, depicting Muhammad, which is not legal in Muslim service.
	It's not even legal in the EU anymore.
	Yeah, well, there you go.
	No, it's illegal.
	They outlawed it.
	It's ridiculous.
	But we'll just go along with it.
	So it made no sense to me that Denmark was going to go along with it because they were taking a bunch of migrants by the ton.
	And I'm thinking, how does that work with their history of really being very xenophobic, the happiest people in the world?
	Yes.
	They also take the most antidepressants in the world.
	True.
	Well, that makes them happy.
	Yes.
	So all of a sudden, this story, which was buried on CBS, if you even find it, you have to find it on CBS, and it's done like a package, but they never pushed it into the mainstream, the regular nightly news, and it explains a lot.
	This is the Denmark clip.
	It says it will send all of its unwelcome migrants to a remote island by 2021.
	The asylum seekers who will be sent there either have criminal records which prohibit them to work in Denmark or people who cannot be returned to their home countries.
	The island currently holds labs and stables and the crematory of a research center for contagious animal diseases.
	The foreigners will be required to report to the island center at least once a day or face imprisonment.
	Ferry departures from the island will be limited.
	Denmark's Prime Minister said the goal is to no longer integrate migrants, but host them until they can return to their home countries.
	As many as 100 people will be relocated to the island.
	Oh yeah.
	Lindholm Island.
	It's so hellhole.
	It's horrible.
	I know.
	They're moving people to it.
	I think this is the classic example.
	Hey, we're doing him a favor.
	Meanwhile, the anti-migration party vox at a big win in Spain as the populist wave continues.
	It's not stopping.
	You know, it's like the politicians.
	We have it here.
	It's everywhere.
	But in the EU, for sure.
	They have not comprehended that it works differently.
	They haven't quite figured it out.
	That the internet ruined the trifecta of politicians, media, and, shall we say, the justice system.
	I mean, they just haven't figured it out that media is changed.
	People understand now what you're doing.
	We see behind the curtain the whole time.
	And they just pretend like you didn't see it.
	Like Brexit.
	You know the vote is coming.
	You know that do-over is coming, if not a general election.
	I mean, this was not just once, which was unprecedented.
	Never before has there been a vote of holding the government or the executive in contempt of parliament.
	But there were two!
	Two in a row!
	I mean, my friends in the UK, they're like, holy crap, they don't...
	I don't know.
	I bet they are.
	The government just said, yeah, we're going to sign it anyway.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's hilarious.
	We're just going to sign it anyway.
	They do not care.
	So, you know, what's happening in France, it will never be as elegant, but we're going to see all kinds of crap coming down in Europe.
	I've lived there.
	I know that the people are fed up with all kinds of stuff.
	Anyway, we talked about our military.
	Here's an update.
	And in the black trumps, weighing in at over 3,000 troops, the ISIS virus, the killer from Nigeria, Ebola!
	That's right!
	We are still trying to get troops into the Democratic Republic of Congo because they've got Ebola there.
	It's scary, but it's not really moving fast enough.
	We can't get enough traction with the story.
	We need to get in there because, you know, there's some valuable minerals, there's things that we really want, and even turns out there's The U.S. Embassy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo was closed after U.S. operatives obtained intelligence that an ISIS affiliate may be planning an attack on American assets in the region, CNN reported Monday.
	U.S. officials told the network that while ISIS does not operate in the DRC, the terror group might enter the country for the attack.
	The State Department confirmed to The Hill that the embassy is reopened Tuesday after being closed since November 24th because of credible and specific information of a possible terrorist threat against U.S. government facilities in Kinshasa.
	I mean, seriously.
	Is this what you're trying to do?
	I mean, ISIS. They don't even operate in there.
	You never know.
	You better be safe than sorry.
	They want the military in there so bad they can almost taste it.
	Well, they're going to get their desires.
	Eventually.
	You know, Farage, quit the UKIP. Yep.
	He says he's starting a new party.
	Did I read that somewhere?
	No, that's what everyone wants him to do.
	He says he might do something.
	I have his quitting clip.
	I would prefer to put it into show notes if you can put it in there.
	Sure, sure I can.
	There's three minutes and 57 seconds.
	Yeah, it's kind of long.
	Three minutes and 57 seconds for something that should have taken 57 seconds.
	Yeah, it's a little long.
	It's a little long.
	Back to the States...
	Oh, actually, no.
	There's one last EU story, which just kind of fascinated me because they ran it at all.
	It's something nobody really...
	I guess some people care about the mobsters being rounded up, and there's a huge ring of mobsters that are running the...
	In the EU? They play the mobster story.
	Yeah, where are they from?
	Are they from Yugoslavia?
	No, they're from Italy, I think.
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah, the Dutch had something to do with this, I think.
	Yes.
	Oops, hold on.
	European police arrested at least 84 suspected mobsters today in raids across Italy, Germany, Belgium, and the Netherlands.
	They targeted an Italian mafia syndicate known as Indratgheda, and they accused, and accused, it is accused of cocaine trafficking, money laundering, and other crimes.
	At The Hague, Italy's top anti-mafia prosecutor said the raids are just a small step in taking down the group's vast network.
	I wanted to underline once again how Indrengeta has cells that operate cooperating amongst each other and in a network that covers the whole of Europe.
	If we think we have dismantled Indrengeta with this operation, we are probably, actually certainly, we are wrong.
	You know, the Netherlands, same for Belgium.
	They're great countries.
	They don't make a problem out of most things.
	You know, you can come in, you can go anywhere you want, you can move drugs.
	The Netherlands is the drug capital of Europe.
	Everything moves through there.
	That's where the manufacture is.
	You know, fantastic.
	It's a great country to do business in.
	And once in a while, you know, I take a couple guys out.
	I have an update on my friend Ratelband who wanted to have his age changed legally.
	He went to court.
	Oh yes, yes.
	He went to court and you will hear the court person speaking about the verdict and you will also hear Emil later talking about it so you know where we're at with this.
	A court in the Netherlands has rejected a 69-year-old man's request to legally change his age.
	It argued that doing so would set a dangerous precedent.
	Thank you.
	Emil Rattleband, the man who wants to change his age, describes himself as a young god.
	We as human beings, we have to change, and so the state and the government have to change also.
	They have to adopt and to realise that the people nowadays have a free will, and they have more consciousness about all those things what happened, and that's the meaning of me.
	The court has given us many, many reasons so we can attack now at the same time.
	So we have lost the battle.
	We are going to win the war.
	Never give up.
	If there is a way, if there is no way, I will create my own way.
	That is so, Emil.
	If there is no way, I create my own way and we do it anyway.
	Yes.
	I'm going to call him and ask him how he's going to win the war.
	He'll tell me the strategy.
	I just think of the pronoun, use the pronoun God.
	Yeah, and you know what?
	He is pretty relentless with stuff like this.
	Unless something better comes along that puts him in the public eye.
	But I think he's really latched.
	He's a little older now.
	I think he's latched on to it, and I think he'll stick it out.
	And if he says he has many opportunities now to go back at the government, he has one.
	So I'll give him a call, and I'll find out.
	Because Lord knows, John, you and I could apply all that knowledge.
	Jurisprudence is what we seek.
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	George, Utah, $55.
	Michael Gates, $52.80.
	Aaron Buckler in Leonardtown, Maryland, $50.33.
	Sir Sean, black knight of the dude's name, Ben, $50.29.
	It's his birthday.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	The following people are $50 donors, name and location, if it's listed.
	Todd Moore in Arlington, Virginia.
	Andrew Martin in Sydney, Australia.
	Brian Snyder.
	Victor Munoz in Miami, Florida.
	Baroness Monica in Drayton Valley, Alberta.
	Thank you.
	Scott E. Knight in Las Wages, Nevada.
	Matthew or Sir Matthew Giannizowski, if he's not a sir, he should have been by now, in Chicago.
	Paul Van Cordelar in Aymoudin.
	Aymoudin.
	Aymoudin.
	Villarreal.
	Villarreal in Mercedes, Texas.
	Boom, ding.
	That's the end of our group of $50 well-wishers.
	Could have been longer, but that's the way it goes.
	I didn't have any checks in this because I go to the post office on Wednesdays and Saturdays before the show.
	I go to the post office.
	It's closed.
	Because of George Bush.
	George H.W. Bush.
	Why don't you read the special karma request note?
	Ah, okay.
	Let me go back and get it.
	If I didn't...
	Oh, do you need me to read?
	I have it here.
	No, no, I got it.
	It's right.
	John and Adam, I'm a long-time listener, sometimes donor, and I need to request some karma from my youngest child, Dash.
	He's been medically fragile from day one and is now seven years old after 10.5 months without hospitalization.
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	But he has a ways to go yet before we return home with him.
	Poor kid.
	Please direct some karma in my son's direction.
	I'm not ready to let him go yet.
	Paul Smith.
	And we'll give a separate karma right now, of course.
	You've got karma.
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	Everybody, work on that.
	Oh, yes.
	Meetups.
	Still not confirmed date for the Austin meetup, but February 22nd, I need producers to set it up.
	The Keeper and I. Sorry.
	Can I interrupt?
	Yes.
	And advise that this will be the Texas meetup.
	No, this is not going to be the Texas meetup.
	I think it should be.
	Not in Des Moines, Iowa.
	You're going to have an Austin meetup in Des Moines, Iowa?
	No, I said I still do not have a date.
	Oh, I misunderstood.
	I still do not have a date for the Texas meetup.
	Okay.
	But the Keeper and I will be in Des Moines, Iowa, and we'd like to do a meetup on the 22nd of February.
	Really?
	Yeah, yeah.
	We're there for a wedding, so we would love to do a meetup.
	And if some producers could organize that, that would be fab.
	Okay.
	Let's see what that date looks like.
	But also, all Texans welcome.
	Well, I guess the 22nd is a Friday night, which is perfect.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	Friday night is one of the perfect days to do one.
	Yeah, because people are still working in town.
	They don't want to come back on Saturday.
	It's great.
	That's a great day for a meetup in Des Moines.
	Pick up a lot of the Midwest.
	Probably you'll get at least one or two out-of-staters.
	Yes.
	Before we move on, I have one...
	Have you ever been to Des Moines, Iowa?
	You know, yes.
	I don't remember.
	It's a beautiful town.
	Yeah, I think it was MTV days.
	I probably did some appearance for the crappy Top 40 radio station with Marky Mark.
	A couple things about Iowa I'd like to mention.
	One, near Des Moines is where a lot of those bridges of Madison County are, which are funky to go visit.
	You can't drive.
	You walk through them.
	And the beef in Iowa is the best in the country.
	Ah, okay.
	I can see people moving to Iowa just to eat the beef.
	Finally, we know where it is.
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	Dvorak.org slash NA. We haven't covered Australia today.
	Well, the encryption thing.
	There's some controversy going on and I want to kind of Account for it a little bit.
	I have a commercial that was done before Paul Hogan became famous as an actor.
	He was a spokesperson for the Australian Tourist Bureau.
	Really?
	And in the 70s or 80s, this commercial ran with Paul Hogan.
	It's a 60-second commercial.
	I want to point out an interesting anomaly within this commercial.
	America made a holiday.
	A fair income holiday.
	In the land of wonder.
	The land down under.
	There's a few things I've got to warn you about.
	Firstly, you're going to get wet.
	Because the place is surrounded by water.
	Oh, and you're going to have to learn to say good day.
	Of course, every day's a good day in Australia.
	G'day, Paul.
	G'day, love.
	Of course, you'll have to get used to some of the local customs, like getting a suntan at a restaurant, playing football without a helmet, and calling everyone mate.
	Thanks, mate.
	She's right, mate.
	Apart from that, no worries.
	You'll have the time of your life in Australia.
	Of course, we talk the same language.
	Although you lot do have a funny accent.
	Oh, before you rush out to book your Aussie holiday, get the Aussie holiday book from your airline or travel agent.
	Come on.
	Come and say g'day.
	I'll slip an extra shrimp on the barbie for you.
	America's discovered the wonders down under.
	You're not going to let it go, are you?
	Shrimp.
	Shrimp on the barbie.
	This is the Australian Tourist Bureau, and he said shrimp.
	Well, they should kill him.
	Now, the thing was, it was a gag because he holds up a prawn that's the size of a small Maine lobster.
	And then he says shrimp.
	Shrimp.
	Just to make sure that, you know, they can ridicule us because even our prawns are smaller than the thing he had.
	But it was still a shrimp.
	Meanwhile, we get the best of Australia.
	Just look at what we got, man.
	We got Chris Wilson.
	We got so many good things.
	We got our dame on TV. Sarah?
	Sarah?
	Yeah, it was Sarah.
	We got the best of Australia on this show.
	I have a shrimp ISO. See if it's appropriate for the end of the show.
	Okay, I have an ISO as well.
	Let me see your shrimp ISO. I'll slip an extra shrimp on the barbie for you.
	It's a contender.
	The thing that's really going on in Australia, though, is this new encryption law, which I think it's passed now.
	And attention, attention down under, your app store is about to empty out because what they're saying is, partly I'll read from, this is an official source, New York Times.
	Australian Parliament passed a contentious encryption bill on Thursday to require technology companies to provide law enforcement and security agents with access to encrypted communications, specifically apps like WhatsApp and Signal.
	Yeah, good luck with that.
	That's not going to happen.
	They're not going to give you a key in Australia.
	Five Eyes member.
	Telegram.
	Kick.
	That's what they all want.
	So they pass this law that is completely unenforceable.
	Well, no.
	It's enforceable by banning those apps in Australia.
	And I'm sure Apple will comply because, as you know, they are holy.
	Huh.
	Yeah, I know.
	They're idiots.
	I mean, not the Australians, but this is just nuts.
	Okay.
	I got a clip.
	It's really totally gratuitous just for the ISO. I thought it was kind of funny.
	This is Donna Brazile with George Stephanopoulos.
	And this is all about...
	Any collusion?
	It seems like everyone around President Trump, on anything having to do with Russia, we're not telling the truth.
	Absolutely.
	Michael Cohen once boasted that he would take a bullet for Donald Trump, but instead this week he delivered a smoking gun.
	The fact that, oh yeah, that's a smoking gun.
	Because, once again, he said that what I provided before was consistent with what the president wanted me to say because I wanted to stay loyal to the president.
	Smoking gun.
	I think smoking gun.
	Oh yeah, that's smoking gun.
	A produced ISO, no less.
	Good.
	Well, talking about, I think, a funnier line is Lindsey Graham and his MBS, and he's got a, I think, a topper to smoking gun.
	You know, I found...
	Well, I'll play your clip.
	I found his...
	I have quite a bit of what he said.
	I have very little.
	Okay, we'll play your very little first.
	We'll look at your little one, then we'll look at my big one.
	I think he's complicit in the murder of Mr.
	Khashoggi to the highest level possible.
	I think the behavior before the Khashoggi murder was beyond disturbing.
	And I cannot see him being a reliable partner to the United States.
	Secretary Pompeo and Mattis are following the lead of the president.
	There's not a smoking gun, there's a smoking saw.
	Yeah, very good.
	I do have a smoking saw.
	Ah, well I think that nails it.
	Hold on.
	Smoking saw.
	Nailed it.
	There's not a smoking gun, there's a smoking saw.
	It's beautiful.
	You got it.
	Let's listen to...
	He spoke for about five minutes.
	And I think there are some other interesting things in here, which is not really covered very well.
	Of course not.
	Why would we?
	But he's going against Trump in a massive way.
	Saudi Arabia and MBS are two different entities.
	Can you hear this?
	It seems like heavy on one channel.
	You okay?
	You hearing it?
	Yeah, it's good.
	It's fine.
	If the Saudi government...
	It's going to be in the hands of this man for a long time to come.
	I find it very difficult to be able to do business because I think he's crazy, I think he is dangerous, and he has put the relationship at risk.
	No one has fought for this relationship harder than myself and Senator McCain.
	Senator McCain and I went on the floor stopping lawsuits against the kingdom for complicity in 9-11 because we did not believe the royal family was involved in the planning and execution of the 9-11 attacks.
	What?
	Wait, what?
	He said Saudi Arabia was not involved in the 9-11 attacks?
	Yeah, in contradiction to the report.
	28 pages that say they were.
	Yeah.
	Thanks, Lindsay.
	Et tu, Lindsay.
	If John McCain were alive, I believe he would be standing with me today, leading the charge to come down like a ton of bricks on the Crown Prince for what he's done to the relationship, the way he's destabilized the region.
	So what will I do?
	I will try to work my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to send a statement before the end of this Congress that, in fact, the Crown Prince was complicit in the murder of Mr.
	Khashoggi.
	that during his tenure as Crown Prince he's put the region in chaos and has undercut the relationship and I cannot support arms sales to Saudi Arabia as long as he's going to be in charge of this country.
	It sounds, now that I'm listening to it again, it sounds like, okay, I'm going against everything Trump wants with the arms sales, but I think what he's really done is he's positioned the removal of MBS for the arms sales to continue.
	And he's going to make a big stink about it.
	So maybe he's in cahoots with Trump.
	I believe it could be in cahoots with Trump, but I don't think...
	I think there's a schism within the royal family because there's some other guys, a couple of other guys that want this job that MBS has.
	He's too young.
	He's kind of like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
	Your hero.
	My hero.
	And so...
	I think there's a schism, and I think he, and I believe, I bet you the CIA's involved in this, and Lindsey's, you know, being briefed.
	Sure.
	And there's something going on to get rid of this guy, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's not assassinated.
	MBS would make total sense.
	And they tried to assassinate him already.
	We know this, that that's what happened in Vegas.
	I mean, it's our theory.
	It's a secondary theory to everything else, but it's not bad because there was gunshots reported everywhere.
	But I'm just waiting and you're going to see an assassination.
	Well, an attempt for sure, but that could be just staged as such.
	I think they may actually get to him.
	Yeah.
	Well, that'll be fun.
	Well, it'll be, yes, it'll be fun.
	It'll be great.
	Yeah, I found an older report.
	Apparently the school lunch we've been discussing is one of the themes, new themes for the show for the 2019.
	Yeah, got a lot of response.
	The people are, you know, parents in the lunchroom at their kids in grammar school.
	It's just, they're just disgusting.
	But this apparently goes back 2015.
	Here's a report from 2015 where this was a problem and they spotted it early and put a stop to it.
	This is the older report on school lunch visitation.
	Parents are questioning new security measures at a Beaverton Elementary school just days after a deadly shooting at a school in California.
	Parents have now been banned from joining their children for lunch in the cafeteria.
	Christine Pituana spoke with parents and administrators and joins us now live.
	Christine, this is at Jacob Wismer Elementary.
	And Chris, it's apparently a change they've been looking into making for some time now.
	A Beaverton School District spokesperson says about 750 kids go to the school, but there were a lot of parents coming in to eat lunch with their kids, and it was just too much to keep an eye on everyone.
	Every week, Chen Wang volunteers here at Jacob Wismer Elementary, helping to teach math.
	I have two kids.
	My daughter's fourth grade, my son's second grade.
	She, like many other parents, received this letter from the school principal, asking parents to drop off lunches for their kids here in the office, rather than bringing it straight to the cafeteria and eating lunch with them.
	They think about kids' safety, so I think it's really good.
	The letter to parents references the shooting in San Bernardino this week, where a man walked into a school, shot his estranged wife in a classroom, then himself.
	Three people, including a student, died.
	Obviously, anytime we hear of a tragic incident, such as in San Bernardino, I think all of our schools look at practices and what's happened.
	Maureen Wheeler with the Beaverton School District says school officials have been thinking about making the lunchtime change for a while now.
	We have so many kids that we're supervising, and having parents on top of that just became a real challenge for the school.
	Okay, so if I understand, there's an element of parents just being so freaked out about their kids getting killed at school that they just have to go.
	Like, that's going to help.
	Well, but, you know, you and I underestimate, possibly because our kids are out of school, the feeling that, because, you know, the media makes it very, you know, it amplifies everything.
	It gets a lot of views.
	But, you know, but kids are also very, very, very worried.
	There's a lot of kids who are just stressed out about getting killed at school.
	I'm sure there are, but I'm also wondering what the element of, an element that's not brought into this and would be brought into this if this was going on when I was a kid.
	If your parents come to protect you or they're hovering over you during lunch or something, I think it would invite bullying.
	Yeah, I don't think it does.
	I think it's changed.
	I'm not hearing that.
	I got a lot of feedback from people about this.
	I want to hear from some kids.
	Yeah, me too.
	You know, we're hearing from parents.
	The parents are...
	You're right.
	Now, I have a...
	No, no.
	Before you have, I've got to stay in school for a moment.
	I have a PSA, public service announcement, that airs in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	And this is an after...
	I believe it's an after-school activity that the school is sponsoring, but it's just very interesting to listen to.
	Upside Down is a group for youth 12 and younger who are transgender, genderqueer, gendervariant, questioning, lesbian, gay, or bisexual, and all of their allies.
	Upside Down meets twice a month for friendship, support, and changing the world.
	All youth 12 and younger are welcome to join as they create a space where everyone can be themselves and take on youth-led projects and activities together.
	More information and meeting dates are at UpsideDown180.org.
	This announcement is a public service of 88.1 WKNC. Hey, wait.
	Can you play the end again?
	Yeah.
	The URL. I want the URL. It's upside down something, something, something, something.
	I think it's upside down 180.
	Hold on.
	Upside down 180.org.
	Upside down 180.org.
	Have you looked at the website?
	No, I have not.
	Well, let's look at it.
	Yeah, that's a good idea.
	I was just kind of like, wow.
	Is there adult supervision 12 and under?
	I mean, what's...
	And there's quite a list of things you...
	Let me just...
	While you're looking that up, let me see what this list is again.
	Upside Down is a group for youth 12 and younger who are transgender.
	Transgender.
	Gender queer.
	Gender queer.
	Gender varied.
	Gender varied.
	Wait, wait.
	Just 12 and under?
	Yes.
	What kind of a transgender do you have at the age of 7?
	Hello?
	Where have you been?
	Huh.
	This is, you know, parents are, you know, the minute a boy, as an example, shows like, oh, I want to play with a doll, boom, dress is on.
	You know, it's pink.
	Here's your new room, your new room color.
	There's a little bit of, yeah, people are going a little overboard on some of this stuff.
	I had dolls when I was a kid.
	Dude, you live in San Francisco.
	Look around.
	That's where it's happening.
	That's where you are.
	You're like ground zero of this stuff.
	Jeez.
	It changed the world.
	It's about us.
	It doesn't tell us any names.
	I want names of people.
	I'll look into this later.
	You had a clip, I think, on the last show about Mick.
	That's the millennial publishing group.
	Mick?
	M-I-C? Mick?
	Yeah, Mike.
	Mike.
	Is it Mike?
	Okay.
	Yeah, they pronounce it Mike.
	Okay, and you had just a clip and they laid off the editorial staff.
	Yeah.
	And I found, I don't know if someone sent it to me or if I just came across it, Business Insider.
	Apparently, they let the entire editorial staff go ahead of the sale to the Bustle Digital Group to break a planned union.
	Oh!
	How about that for the millennials who are DSA? Well, I don't know of any millennials that think in terms of unionizing.
	But don't they think in terms of socialism?
	You had a clip of that?
	Oh, you've got me cornered.
	Good try, Dvorak, wrong again.
	Well, most socialist systems don't.
	They make unions illegal.
	Yeah, but you know what I mean.
	It sounds like they should be outraged by this.
	Maybe they're not.
	I'm doubting this.
	I'm doubting this story.
	I think it's just some pro-union propaganda.
	Oh, that could also be.
	Now, just since you're the expert on the...
	The great man!
	What is your take on the...
	I guess it's merger of equals, they're calling it, of Glenn Beck's blaze and Mark Levin creative...
	Was it the...
	Mark Levin!
	Creative conservative...
	Media?
	He's got some financed operation that has given him some TV exposure on the internet, and he does his subscription thing.
	Yeah, but what's going on?
	Why are these two guys merging?
	I mean, is that because they can't make it on this?
	Specifically, those two guys can even get along.
	I think anybody who listens to both of them would know what I'm talking about.
	Is Glenn Beck still on the radio?
	Yeah, I think so.
	He's still got his radio program.
	I don't think he's in the top ten.
	I don't hear him around here.
	I don't know where he is then.
	He's in some obscure time frame.
	So you're not going to hear him.
	And he also syndicated, so you don't know.
	He may not be playing in Texas at all.
	Isn't he based in Dallas or something?
	Michael Savage recently got kicked off of WABC, and for the first time in his career, he won't even be in New York.
	Right.
	And so there's just a bunch of stuff going on.
	I think they know what to see the writing on the wall and they're going to have to consolidate.
	And DeBlaze, from what I've heard, has always been kind of a sketchy money loser.
	I think that, yeah, that's what I've always understood is that, you know, okay, but he makes the money on his radio show.
	Maybe he has to add a little bit, you know, kind of like Leo, you know, makes money on his syndicated satellite thing.
	And, you know, the rest is window dressing at this point.
	Wasn't like that, but I just, I see Levin, his radio show, I'm sure he's making tons of money, millions and millions.
	He's got the support of the, I mean, that's the model.
	You get the AM radio talk show, you get a show on Fox.
	That's the model right there.
	Have you seen that girl Lisa, by the way, on Fox?
	No.
	Who was doing the political stuff.
	She's from a think tank or something.
	I just wanted to point her out.
	She's from what?
	She's from some think tank.
	She's a rising star, man.
	She's got it.
	You watch.
	Lisa on Fox?
	Yeah, let me see what her name is.
	Lisa Booth.
	Lisa Booth.
	She doesn't look...
	She comes right up on the sidebar right there on the Googles.
	Yeah.
	She's a beauty.
	Now, she's not...
	Now, she's weird.
	Her eyes are very alien.
	She's got a lot of gum.
	Yeah, she's probably a lizard.
	She could be.
	She's got a...
	No, she's more like a...
	I'm looking at her.
	I'm looking at her.
	She's more like a gray.
	She looks Icelandic, actually, with those eyeballs.
	That's more like a gray.
	No, she looks like a gray.
	For some reason...
	Yeah, maybe.
	For some reason, Icelanders have been, their eyeballs have been moving out further and further because of the inbreeding.
	And she's got a lot of gum on her.
	And by the way, we're talking as television producers.
	Yes, we're the producers now.
	We're not being, we're not just being catty.
	No, no.
	Shirk off men talking about someone on Fox.
	I'm telling you, this woman.
	Has nice hair.
	This woman.
	And she did the midterm reports for Tucker.
	And she's like, she's a very odd head, very strange, but she's got it, and now they put her in substitute.
	She's going to have her own show.
	I think she will be the Megyn Kelly replacement if they wanted, you know, a smart, beautiful woman.
	Well, they've been running it like Shannon Bream was supposed to be.
	No, that's not going to do it.
	This is the girl.
	Maybe.
	This is her.
	We'll see.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'm calling it.
	She's...
	I wonder what her...
	Tina's like, are you hot for her?
	I said, no, I'm a television producer, baby.
	Are you hot for me?
	I'm a television producer, baby.
	What are you talking about?
	This is good.
	Okay, well, I'll keep it.
	I don't really watch Fox that much anymore.
	I only watch Tucker.
	That's all I watch on Fox.
	I have been good.
	I have been following...
	This is a long clip, and I think it's a good clip for the end of the show.
	Okay.
	Because it's kind of like, oh my god, kind of a clip.
	So more stuff has come out about Les Moonves.
	Ah, yes.
	Some good stuff, too.
	He had a hooker on staff.
	Yeah, very good stuff.
	So I'm listening to the report on Democracy Now!
	And it's like so juicy.
	I'm thinking, wow, this is great.
	I'll get this clip and then I'll put it up against CBS's clip because I know they're going to say something, but it's going to be pretty lame because otherwise CBS is going to make themselves look bad by having this guy for so long.
	No, I was completely wrong.
	I just dropped a Democracy Now!
	clip, the CBS clip, which is three minutes and 15 seconds.
	Really goes into it, which makes me wonder If Moonves was not really well liked by the news division, because, I mean, this is a little overboard, this presentation, but it was very enjoyable.
	An explosive new report put together by lawyers for CBS accuses the company's former CEO, Les Moonves, of misleading investigators and destroying evidence in a sexual misconduct investigation.
	Moonves was forced out in September.
	This report is expected to be presented to the CBS board next week.
	The New York Times says it has seen an early draft.
	Tariqa Duncan has details, plus an interview tonight with a new accuser, and a warning some of what you're about to hear is graphic.
	According to the Times, the 59-page draft report says Moonves deliberately lied about and minimized the extent of his sexual misconduct, partly to protect his $120 million severance package.
	Plus, he allegedly deleted text messages, instructed at least one person not to speak to investigators, And that either he or someone else handed over his son's iPad to investigators instead of his own.
	There were a lot of people at CBS that knew about the allegations against him.
	There were people at CBS that knew about his efforts to try to cover up his behavior.
	And a lot of people who didn't do anything about it.
	According to the Times, investigators interviewed 11 women and found their accounts to be credible.
	The Times says the lawyers have now identified a total of 17 women.
	Among the new allegations in the report, Moonves had a CBS employee on call to perform oral sex on him and received oral sex from at least four CBS employees under circumstances that sound transactional.
	In 2017, at a Variety magazine event, Moonves said this about sexual harassment.
	But I think it's important that a company's culture will not allow for this.
	The Times also reports that investigators found at least one CBS board member knew of the sexual misconduct allegations about Moonves...
	Before joining the board in 2007, and that last year, CBS's former head of communications learned of a sexual misconduct allegation against Moonves, but did not report it.
	Then he held me very, very close, and he didn't kiss me.
	He just stuck his tongue down my throat.
	Ah!
	Today we spoke to another woman.
	June Seely Kimmel says Moonves forcibly kissed her in 1985 after she pitched a movie to him when Moonves was the head of development at 20th Century Fox.
	What would you say now?
	I can't believe I'm going to get emotional.
	You killed the dream of a woman who was so young and needed a break and worked so hard to get that and you really, it was awful.
	We reached out to Moonves' attorney for comment about Kemmel's accusation but have not heard back yet.
	But Moonves' attorney did tell the Times this.
	He denies having any non-consensual sexual relation and cooperated extensively and fully with the investigators.
	A spokesman for the investigators said no findings have been reported to the board.
	And the board has reached no conclusions on this matter.
	The Times again says that this report is expected to be presented to the board sometime next week.
	Jeff?
	Oh, brother.
	What a douche.
	Well, the whole thing, of course, if you think about it, is the CBS has turned on him in a really aggressive way because they want to minimize that $120 million.
	Yeah.
	I gotta give the guy props, though, for having a hooker on premises.
	On call.
	An actual call colleague.
	There was a button under his desk.
	Beep!
	It's time!
	It's time!
	I need another hummer!
	I just did a deal.
	Beep!
	Same guys that penalized everybody for Janet Jackson's nipple.
	There you go, everybody.
	That's your CBS. Paying colleagues to fellate you while screaming bloody murder about a nipple.
	And that is your deconstruction for today.
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	Until then, adios, mofos.
	Just go for it, John.
	Tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane.
	I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying and I think it will result in fights breaking out because it's just so annoying to watch.
	Guy takes his bag of peanuts and throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand and then he makes a fist.
	Around the nuts.
	And then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole.
	And then he throws a nut in his mouth from his fist.
	Then he does it again.
	He shakes and throws and shakes and throws.
	It is annoying as hell to watch.
	Everybody in the world is watching, by the way.
	Warning, this is a highway off-ramp.
	It just crumbled when the earthquake struck.
	There were cars on the road at the time.
	The so-called yellow vest protesters in France have vowed to keep fighting the government.
	That was played.
	I was used.
	Did you tell the president that you think he's been played on this?
	Yes, actually.
	Which is what will happen if we do not deliver on Brexit.
	They want the judge to put this matter to rest for good old Mike Flynn.
	He has been an ideal cooperator.
	His life's work, 33 years of serving his country, washed down the drain for this?
	Democrats across the country say the former Texas Senate candidate has the potential...
	To take the 2020 presidential primaries by storm.
	What do you think?
	And I think it does reflect reality.
	Everybody in the world is watching, by the way.
	Very legal and very cool.
	Right, so, uh, Holly, you're right.
	I mean, this report released, uh, literally about a minute and 40 seconds ago.
	Very cool.
	Illnesses could shatter all records.
	Whatever happened to global warming.
	Don't leave the scientists because they have a very big political agenda.
	This is for things like tics carrying.
	Very cool.
	About East Coast.
	So, uh, Holly, you're right.
	And very cool.
	About East Coast.
	About a minute and 40 seconds ago.
	Learn it.
	Very legal and very legal.
	Allergic illnesses.
	Very cool.
	Oh, you're right.
	So are we learning?
	Cool.
	Are expected to increase?
	So are we learning?
	Yes, but there was no cool.
	And a cold glass could shrap into global warming.
	There was no cool.
	And the president was saying there was no...
	And about East Coast co-op into global warming.
	Report.
	Are we learning?
	I was saying there was no cool.
	And viruses like Z to things like ticks can't report release literally about a minute and 40 seconds ago.
	Very cool.
	And the president was saying there was no cool.
	And the president was...
	Of climate change for people here in the United States using real life examples.
	On the stopwatch.
	Very legal and very cool.
	Things like ticks carrying Lyme disease.
	It was just been cool.
	And the president was saying there was no...
	As we speak of this...
	Eastern, the congressionally mandated report...
	Flying over Afghanistan...
	Or maybe it was Pakistan.
	I promised myself to aim myself at every woman shall demand.
	That was on my list.
	I don't care if I missed.
	I'm remote controlled.
	I do what I'm told by someone at a computer.
	Obama gave me a push, more than Bush.
	And I cost millions.
	I'm supposed to target terrorists, but not so much civilians.
	I don't know what to say.
	Whoops, some got in my way.
	A drone again, naturally.
	We'll be right back.
	A drone again.
	Naturally.
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